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I'm a china stock bag holder BABA and NIO to the moon. I already lost half my retirement here it can only go up from here 🌙 🌚
First week of my trading life and I am YOLOing SOFI calls. Guys I think I really belong here.
I called my wife an idiot when she told me to sell BABA at $220 for a small loss. What do I do now?
Is China set for "finally" bottom and an epic rally?
Is Ryan Cohen (RC Ventures) still invested in $BABA?
Massive divergence between BABA share price and EPS. Could be a setup for a massive rally.
Histogram Insights on 1-15 Day Returns Across Various Assets
Kramer says sell 🇨🇳 China stocks. Buy Buy Buy #BABA
Probability of profit from below calls? Expiring on 26 Jan
Shitibank gave me a quarter million to buy shiti-Chinese company $C $BABA
Any Alibaba (BABA) holders in this community?
Down to 6.5k from 20k. Is there a point in selling?
Will #BABA become #1 MEME of ‘24 by July
Not selling in last couple days of year because of taxes
Note to Softbank: don’t F with Wall Street, WallStreetBets will F with you.
TKVR Financials look like a dream, exciting business. Research (DD) *MUST READ*
Bought COIN puts yesterday and sold them just now, +$25K. And wish I had gotten out of BABA and PLTR yesterday but I’m bad at cutting losses
BABA, Chy-Nah or Chy-Yah? Jack ma scrapping together $1.4 mil to sell street food for his retirement? will Baba be handed back to Chyna control? Xi New End Game Goal? Will they assign another CEO from a Chinese owned American Enterprise to run said Baba?
Sold TSLA calls at the peak this morning, +$22K. Gains all due to me liking cyber truck videos on YouTube. Getting out of BABA and PLTR soon
Thank you cyber truck! Should try to close PLTR and BABA soon. And should I get COIN puts?
Wdf u doing BABA, Be a nice calitalist company and make me profit.
BABA today hit a new 52-week low. This is ridiculous.
Alibaba dips on MS downgrade as PDD grabs spot of most valuable Chinese e-commerce firm
Farfetch (FTCH) 50/50 play set for the coming weeks
TKVR (DD) *Must Read* Financials look like a dream
Sold 1/3 of my TSLA shares so I could feed baby his BABA. TSLA has made me 10x on my money at the moment. I'm set to buy about 70 more shares of BABA on Monday with other funds. Tell me why I'm wrong.
This was two years ago... JOIN ME! Lets GET BABA SQUEEZE!!
Two years ago boys... this one hurt... JOIN ME!!! LETS GET BABA TO SQUEEZE!!!!! Calls ON BABA!!!
After losing it all on BABA, Walmart bringing me back from the depths.
What do you guys think of CHINA names?
As GPT-4 coming, Tech companies Promote the AIGC + 5000 IP content ecology
Suggestions on how to recover losses if I am not selling my winners
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WiMi Hologram Cloud (WIMI) focuses on the development of the AI industry
$BABA - U.S. & China Agree to Ease Trade Tensions
Digital Industry To Revitalize: WIMI takes” AI+ AR” as the core to expand new paradigms and new scenarios
China's Financial Landscape: A Dance of Decline, Distrust, and Desperation
AI big model industry: WIMI Focuses on AIGC into the AGI high growth space
What are you bagholding and how long?
For those who were telling BABA is the one.. thoughts?
Up $55K in one trade, pay for college or back into options?
Gave out $BABA last week went 2X - NEW YOLO - $DIS $89 Calls / Aug 18 2023 Expiration / ~$58k cost basis - wish me luck regards
YOLO - 200 contracts / $BABA $98 Calls / Aug 04 2023 Expiration / ~$48k cost basis - wish me luck fellow regards
$WIMI stimulates new drivers of commercial realization of AI high-value scenarios
$WIMI stimulates new drivers of commercial realization of AI high-value scenarios
Loss porn & yolo on life saving / IRA / 401k
Where was this AI when I appropriated double my net worth to secure prodigious amounts of BABA puts?
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Disagree with black and white view. There are plenty of reasons to buy the right Chinese stocks are the right time. They are heading toward the equivalent of a $278 billion government stimulus. Stocks like JD and BABA will benefit tremendously. I put 2.5% of my portfolio in BABA at $71/Share and another 2.5% in JD at $24.30/share. These are not long term holdings. The idea is to ride them up if/when the stimulus occurs. Not much downside risk if the stimulus does not occur due to how beaten up both stocks already are.
So basically after I gave up on my BABA and TCEHY
BABA this isn't right ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
my BABA may finally got a chance 🥺
I like BABA bigtime too especially since Jack Ma has been scooping it up at much higher prices than current levels. I probably open up a BABA position tomorrow. Already have BIDU calls from today
If you go China go BABA. BABA supplies Amazon and has media and servers for USA board tycoons to infiltrate with capitalism. BIDU is just Chinese search... USA can't even read Chinese, it's useless for them.
People look at a chart of BABA and its P/E and think it's going to go bonkers. It can easily go flat.
I got my BABA calls , it's about to fly
So someone sold 30mill in PDD and 10mill in BABA yesterday
Can we talk about BABA? Or at least which gene defect of mine made me buy monthly’s on that ?
First option on Google is Alibaba? So calls on $BABA
Someone bought $30 mil in PDD puts and $10 mil in BABA puts yesterday, expiring 1 to 2 months out. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|33495)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
You choose: either 5/17 BABA 80c Or 5/17 SOFI 9c
Another quiet night at home watching China bros sell off BABA.
About 6 months ago I looked at BABA's price at 85 and thought to myself "hmm 6 month calls at this price seems reasonable." I was about to hit the buy button of about 20k worth of 90c's, until I got distracted by some phub video. By the time i was done fapping my 1 inch monster, I totally forgot I was about to buy BABA. Thank you phub for saving me 20k ![img](emote|t5_2th52|33495)
i bought $BABA shares in mar21 :(
Damn... BABA was already getting crushed... Them too
Buy a ton of BABA seems to be the play here
If you understand the China risk issue then you won’t be suggesting people invest in China. Yes fundamentals may be there but still, the other risks are also very important and I’m talking politics, systemic etc. How can you feel comfortable investing in a company where the CEO was taken up by the government because they don’t like his views? Like that shit sounds wrong on every level. So you’re sitting in BABA stock and you’re cool that the CEO and founder has been retrained and was mia for weeks/months against his will? I don’t think they will leave the global system. But there is also some definite decoupling as we are seeing with tech now. China will continue like this for now. What happened with Ma was a very serious thing. And they don’t care, they think it’s their culture.
Since you hold BABA. What do you think of Ant Financial?
I have some BABA, but nothing outside that. Also - in the Russian stock situation the US first imposed sanctions on Russia and barred them from swift so they were not able to repay debt holders as well. Russia then imposed sanctions in return preventing non-friendly countries from selling. Sort of tit for tat. In this situation its the US citizenship being a liability.
bought BABA at 170 coz it couldn't go any lower, right? FML
I holy only index funds except one. That one being BABA and I acknowledge I'm a true bagholder there. But as for other than that? Not a single stock person. I'm riding the gains of NVDA through my index funds anyway.
Good call, I'm a long BABA bagholder
I have been on the same thought train… No way BABA won’t make a comeback. BA is too big and old to fade away. This is just a minor set back for them.
BABA would be a blue chip if it was an American company easily. It would be up there with the big boys. It being a Chinese ADR in the middle of a technological Cold War makes it not a standard “blue chip”. Looks cheap tho 🤷
>Wouldn’t consider BABA a blue chip lol There's definitely some debate about BABA's blue-chip status.
Those are all great companies and more reliable than Nvidia as far as putting money. Nvidia is basically a meme stock that may crash 80% at a moments notice when no one can figure out what to do with so called AI. And competition is quick at their heels. At the valuations of MMM, BA and even BABA id chose those all day long for a risk/reward play
BA — there is no path in which they avoid bankruptcy. They have $60BB in LT debt with $20BB in negative shareholder equity all the while still losing money. BABA - the stock you purchased is for a holding company in Caymans. They can take all of your money and run and you have no recourse. 3M - not worth talking about very limited growth opportunity. Their earplug debacle just caused one of their units to declare bankruptcy.
Everything you said is right. But, do you think China will let BABA fail? They can hide what’s under the hood for their benefit making the stock price rise. I truly don’t know what to think of baba. I do think it’s a shitty company but I can’t see China letting it fail. It’s their pride and joy.
BABA’s a lottery ticket at best. China decides how BABA goes.
I’m bag holding BA, BABA and more. No ragrets!
That’s pretty much my point. All of that outrageous growth was wiped away in half the time. The 2018 levels provided no support. Serious investors would have defended those levels better if BABA was worthy with or without Jack.
This started before the Jack Ma issue. Chinese stocks have been dangerous to own for a while due to the many levels of manipulation. The people that “thought” it would comeback must not understand compounding math. BABA is currently down ~80% from ATHs, its below 2018 high and IPO price. Objectively this is textbook pump and dump.
BABA and JD hold till ×1,5/×2
I was excited about BABA years ago. Those were optimistic times and I liked investing in a Company that seemed to be flexing it's strengths and was successfully competing in a capitalist free Market. As an importer with some friends in Shenzhen & Guangzhou over the years I saw how lifestyles and attitudes in China were rapidly changing: modernizing, improving. In the mid 200's- until 2015 sales people in the companies I imported from were still not allowed to access European or American websites. That all changed by 2018. BABA and a few other companies were breaking out !! I liked that. So I have to say I had some emotional attachment to BABA I wanted to see the company flourish, but it's volatile, China is a volatile market right now and probably will remain that way for some time to come..I mean, if your looking for some exposure and want to get involved in emerging markets. Look no further than India ! There's more than a few value ETF's & equities to sink your teeth into with transparent valuation reports that might actually bare some truth.
I am abit afraid of my BABA, but i think it will be great over time, but china just have problems with being too closed off, i hope they will move more western at a time
Same, I’m up a little bit on BABA with a small position. I don’t plan on adding but I do see a swing upwards in the next 6-9 month, and I will reevaluate then
BABA is Amazon of China though. Boeing and 3M was never the anything of anything in China. Maybe it will get over taken by PDD like Amazon being overtaken by [Overstock.com](https://Overstock.com)? BABA will recover when China recovers and even if China stays in deflation and loses dollar value, that will just make things in China even cheaper for the rest of the world which will work out better for BABA and PDD that exports good made in China to Amazon, Aliexpress and Temu.
Anecdotally, people who worked in BABA's NYC office were complaining about how the company's management and operations is a mess, and that the NYC office has little say in driving the US business. All decisions get centralized in China where they have minimal knowledge of the US market. Tl;dr: I'd be careful with BABA, it'd either keep trading sideways or you'll end up holding bags that'll kill you (e.g. Charlie Munger).
I have some BABA stocks, only down about 3%. Do I just sell and move money elsewhere? I think could be smarter to do so and get some GOOG calls a few months from now. Thoughts?
I am buying Mega puts on BABA right before the election in November,
Just bought JD and BABA recently after never giving them a thought in the past. They are incredibly cheap and will rise if the Chinese government implements the reported massive stimulus plan.
> BABA was loved as a large cap tech stock on the level of Amazon by ~~investors~~ gamblers FTFY
Before the Jack Ma fiasco a few years ago, BABA was a darling in the markets. Many people bag-held thinking it would always come back. Never has. Maybe it will, but it can easily be dead money for a long time
Regardless, they are all “major companies”. Not too long ago, BABA was loved as a large cap tech stock on the level of Amazon by investors
BABA looks cheap right now, but it's always going to suffer the "china factor", which even if China's economic situation improves growing uncertainty with relations will impact it. Additionally, who knows what's under the hood with BABA involving revenues, government involvement, ect. We all know there's sneaky stuff behind the scenes. Not worth the risk IMO.
Wouldn’t consider BABA a blue chip lol
I think both BA and MMM suffered from the same problem of expensive lawsuits/problems plaguing the companies. BABA is not even in the same category as the other two. That’s your fault for buying a Chinese company.
> Boeing, BABA, 3M One of these is not like the others.
I haven't done proper DD, but their crown jewel WeChat seems like the perfect monopolistic business. That and their mobile gaming business is a ridiculous pairing to hold. I'm not exposed to Chinese equities but I might end up doing some research on them. Them and BABA are the two companies from China I've been monitoring.
BABA is equally bad, if not worse
Better refresh your source or stay away from the Chinese stocks. What you said is partially true. Highly suspected BABA won’t fall so dramatically if Jack is still in charge. However, Alibaba has a shitty management team in the industry. BABA lost the competition more because it attempted to move upwards to increase the quality(prices) of products while it overlooked the fact that China’s middle class is falling with its failure to handle the deflation. People with decent jobs right now are using PDD which they definitely looked down on 5 years ago. Also, Jack was more evicted and he lives in Japan right now
Not if it’s BABA ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)
China kidnapped and tortured BABA's CEO to bring them in line. Biden will do the same with Tim Apple. Car battery to his nipples. LMAO
Just bought some BABA calls so expect -50% EoY children
Will the government abduct and torture Tim Cook like how China did with BABA's CEO?
AAPL is the next BABA
but what are they called (ex. Nasdaq, NYSE, SEHK, LSE, etc)? just the term not really the history or what each letter mean. like how (ex. META, INTC, NKE, VOW, BABA/9988, CMCSA) are called **tickers**. or are they just simply abbreviations?
Man $BABA goes up steady and silent
BABA please free me from my BABAGS
Wouldn’t touch BABA with a 10ft pole.
What are the chances BABA breaks $90 by 04/26? I ask because my son made me order a bunch of Skippy Toilet guys from there, and they came in surprisingly good condition. I’m thinking as more kids get into these toilets, they’re going to be flocking to AliBaba to buy them. You think this magic carpet can fly?
BABA 90c 04/26 I do this right???
Sold soundhound for 7% gain and Abercrombie for 15% gain: probably take that and put it in GCT. Possible BABA (me love u long time position) I been buying SMCI for a year and I think it’s time to sell my last little bit. Or not…. Got some thinking to do
I’m still holding onto these JD and BABA bags
That place sucks, pure garbage for sale. Stick with BABA in the long run if you want China.
BABA swinging 2% up and down is unusual. Today might be a day it finally pops thanks to temu
Am I doing this right? After a few years of exclusively trading options, I'm trying to get off the sauce by buying actual stocks like some kind of investor. This is all within a self-managed IRA at Schwab, so I don't have any problems re-allocating and am looking for roasts and feedback. BABA: China is beatdown and sentiment is terrible. Even with relations as they are, I bet that China is poised to profit from US rate cuts. I wish I had done more DD on other Chinese stocks, but this was at least a company I heard of. Interested in other plays to maybe swap ponies with. GILD: Another beatdown sector. PE Ratio at \~16 MSTR: I love Bitcoin. NWARF: Read about this on WSB and I like the stock. NET: I think they're my favorite traditional tech stock. They're a leader in a critical piece of infrastructure and they continue to create new products for cross-selling. RIVN: Bought some during the latest draw down because I like sales channel into delivery trucks and I hear consumers love it (I want one). They probably need some more cash before the big turnaround, but at this price, it still seems worth the ride. SOFI: Recently profitable and ETHE: I love Ethereum. But in reality, I'm hoping to see the NAV recover when ETH ETF gets approved, hopefully alongside some asset appreciation. VTI: This is where I store cash.
Depends on your personality. I check every morning while reading stock related news and such for about an hour. But I neither sold NVDA while it has been going up which I’ve own long before covid or BABA while its gone down so much which I bought what I thought was a small dip. And I never think about them outside that time. If you can do that then check all you want. If not, maybe one of those broad etfs are for you.
He who bought BABA, must suffer. Well I did too.
$BABA will have it's day in the sun again.
Love the site, however how is the fair value being calculated? BABA fair value at $535 seems like a pipe dream [baba fair value ](https://ibb.co/5Kq6J4g)
BA, BABA, I sense a pattern here ...
I don’t like anything listed on the HSI, they will have their short-term pops but Chinese markets exist to sell and their government is only buying up A-shares PDD was smart and did a Nasdaq-only listing Also PDD is eating JD / BABA’s growth for lunch and will continue to be the center of attention, at least until ByteDance and Shein go public
same, I tried stock picking for a few years and always failed. analyzed fundementals and picked companies I thought had good cash flows but were undervalued - 3m, BABA, paypal - ended up getting burned constantly and just stuck it in SPX (with 10% left for fun money). I also tried shorting growth companies that kept rocketing higher. I was completely shocked and it was my first realization that the fundementals never match the stock price in the short term. it's a grand illusion.
leap calls on beaten stocks are still dangerous and they could get beaten down more - either by a market correction, poor company performance, or just plain market manipulation. people bought BABA leap calls when it crashed to 100 thinking there was no way it would be below that 2 years later. Same with Paypal. Same with Sofi. the market is a grand illusion and even stocks with improving fundementals STILL can fail to reach their leap targets. the market can truly remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent - in the span of years. Imagine if you had bought paypal leaps when it went below 100 2 years ago. and then sometime from 2024 went back in time and said "yeah! the stock market reached a new ATH! and paypal stock revenue and EPS has been going up the past 2 years". You'd say "wow! so my paypal leaps hit right??" You'd be in utter shock when he woud of said "no, its around 60". buy leaps for fun, but never as a form to make money, no MATTER how obvious the play may seem. the stock may do well, market at ATH, and the price may drop 40% over 2 years.
been eying this stock for a while! Thinking about putting a small longterm order of 550usd. and to do the same in BABA. Toughts about that now?
BABA I'm ready whenever you are 😉
Well either way, balls deep in SOFI and BABA.
Lesson here, if it sounds too easy, it probably is. Don’t do it. Nothing in Mr. Markets is that obvious. Look at the PYPL and BABA graveyards.
BABA please take my energy ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)
The exp date depends on where the stock is and how much i think it will keep going. Some i buy 2 years out, 1 year out, etc. The further down the stock is, the longer exp i buy. Depends on my expectation also. I tend to avg down my position and start dumping whenever i feel there is a resistance. I never cut my losses, i define my entry cost and if i lose it, im already expecting it. I have some leaps on puts aswell, and if one stock doesnt work, another will. I close it or roll further OTM and longer time. That way im keeping my positions with lower cost and getting money as credit. Sometimes i play earnings and make 500%+ overnight, and i dont blindly open positions. I have A LOT of PFE and BABA leaps now, those are my biggest positions. If both of them goes up 20%+ in 6 months im making 300%+ on my leaps.
I'd say that you're in good (bad) company. I have the same problem. Lost a TON on options, but I can't seem to stay away from them. Right now, with the market as it is, I'm even afraid to hang onto stocks too long. Still bag holding both TSLA and BA. Just shoot me. (Like another poster on this thread, am curious to know what you think about BABA.)
Your post is too long and boring so I’ll cut straight to the point: what are your thoughts on BABA as a long term play?
BABA getting drilled ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)