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They killed alt energy stuff as well -- IIRC, with BBB they killed off various grants etc. for building solar etc. So things already moving got screwed and no new stuff. These jack assess are making the absolute wrong decisions on everything. It's like trading 0DTE calls that are .01 delta.
Agreed, BBB- is only one above junk. Watch this space.
We went the ACA PTC route between my retirement and my wife's reaching Medicare age. Since it's a cliff design we got about 1/2 her Insurance covered (5k per year range on 9-10k insurance cost). That was on \~65k per year MAGI. We used after tax account/savings tp stay below that cliff. Once we both hit medicare age I did capital gain harvesting for 2 years on that taxable account to maximize the zero LTG bracket before my RMD age. That worked well. Not sure what is doable now with the changes to the PTC in BBB.
BBB- bond rating lol
Isn't this exactly what OMB said would happen with the BBB tax cuts?
Dont forget all the poison pill items in the BBB that are coming up next year!
Fitch Downgrades US of fucking A To BBB- After Markets ‘Lose Confidence in 🥭's Ability to Stop Doing Dumb Shit’
I am financially but household income is like $500k. BBB saves me like $15k/year. Crazy how Trump dominated with people under who make under $100k then screw’s them left and right
And as if on cue, the PM announces a giveaway to help him get re-elected https://www.reuters.com/business/greek-pm-unveils-plan-boost-incomes-ahead-elections-2026-09-05/ > ATHENS, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on Saturday unveiled a four-year economic plan that includes tax breaks and wage hikes for pensioners and employees, as he seeks to recover lost ground in opinion polls ahead of next year's election. > The measures, with a cost of €3.5 billion ($4.06 billion) by 2030, equal to 1.5% of GDP, include an annual bonus of €400 for pensioners and €500 for public servants, zero tax for up to €20,000 annual income for farmers and families with three children and a reduction of the advance tax payment for self-employed and businesses to 50%. > His center-right government, which was re-elected with 40.5% of the vote in 2023 promising to increase incomes, remains ahead in opinion polls but support has slipped to below 30% amid a protracted cost-of-living crisis and allegations of corruption. > In December, thousands of farmers took to the streets to demonstrate over low prices of their products, high energy costs and a farm aid fraud scandal that sparked political resignations and drew a hefty EU fine. > FROM CRISIS TO GROWTH After a financial crisis in 2009 that triggered fears Greece would crash out of the euro zone, the country is now one of the best-performing in Europe. > Greece's economy is expanding at an annual rate of 2%, outpacing the euro zone average. It expects a primary surplus of about 4% this year, double what was initially expected, giving fiscal space to fund the new measures. > "The road from bankrupt and the fringes of Europe to the epicenter of Europe has been long," said Mitsotakis, adding that the time has come to "reap the benefits of our efforts." > He was delivering his annual economic speech in the northern city of Thessaloniki. Mitsotakis also announced new annual hikes in the minimum monthly salary to reach €1,000 by 2028, from €920 today, a reduction of half a percentage point for pension contributions for private-sector employees and 30% lower electricity wholesale prices by 2029. > He said his target in the next four years is to reduce unemployment to below 6% from 8% at present, the debt to GDP ratio to below 110% and the average monthly salary to reach €1,800 from €1,500 today. He added that he wants the country's debt rating to be upgraded to "A" category from "BBB" today
Anything about energy is gonna get there, on the other hand, renewables are tanking in the US. Fuck One BBB.
Credit ratings basically measure how comfortable lenders should be that they’ll get paid back. More debt pushes the rating down; more earnings, cash flow and lower leverage push it back up. Oracle is BBB- because it borrowed heavily *before* the data centers it’s building are producing their full earnings. If those assets come online and OCI earnings grow while debt growth slows, leverage falls and the rating can move back up. If the earnings don’t show up and Oracle keeps borrowing, it can go the other direction. BBB- is the rating agencies saying “you’ve taken on a lot of leverage,” not “bankruptcy is around the corner.”
> So... trying to "beat" other countries... by making semiconductors more expensive... for your own country.... so the other countries can pick up the supply? beating them by... giving them what they want? and taking it away from yourself? How else do you cover the deficit without borrowing more which increases yields and makes borrowing more expensive? We cut taxes with the BBB and now Orange is squeezing the couch cushions hoping quarters fall out to cover the bills. Anything but raising taxes on the wealthy.
From Blockbusters or Circuit City or BBB or GameStop shares...
My opinion is the fundamentals of the economy (war, famine, plague and death, ect), consumer debt being high, student loans kicking in within the next few months and the BBB cuts to Medicaid and food benefits going through in November are all major buy factors for me. It's not a sexy industry, but the idea that it won't be cracking 40 by the end of the year is a silly one to me.
That would require rolling back BBB and actually making the rich pay more of their fair share. But that's never happening.
Yep they don’t want to admit it. They have skewed the numbers to the max lately. But we’re already in stagflation, it probably started in 22, they tried there best for a while but any miss-step would ruin the plan and it went out the window the second the BBB and tariffs got approved. We’re already in stagflation but they are artificially keeping the rates low, I’m expecting a huge jump after midterms. It’s easy to see, all you have to do is simply look around.
I own MLP (master limited partnership) fund it invest in midstream oil and gas companies that operate pipelines and refineries. Ihave EMO 8..% yield. BDC (Business development corporations) I have PBDC 9% yield. for utilities and infrastructure UTF 7%and UTG 6.2%. these funds are 20 years old and have never cut t or reduced there dividend. CLO (colateral Loan obligations) Very low risk loan obligations JAAA 5.5% yeidl AAA rated CLOs. CLOZ 8% yeidl BBB CLOs.
i hope im wrong cause im not a gay ber but a gay twink but i feel like bondrates due to BBB pork bill spending could cause the 2021 shit dump again
How do these rat fucks bet the farm on lower rates and then fucking do everything in their power (tariffs, Iran, BBB) to make rates go fucking up!!!
Buying into EZPW, major benefit programs will be cut on Oct 1st tied to the BBB will occur just in time for a probable crunch of fuel prices, right in time for Christmas shopping season to start.
What do you mean turn, the BBB was passed to cement their rule. Y'all lost the easy way out a year ago but are holding on to the delusion otherwise
BBB's not alone. I once worked for a company that did a buy back chasing the downhill side of the Y2K tech bubble in 1H2000 and ended up chapter seven. Pissed away \*ALL\* of their cash and couldn't pay the power bill. The c-suite einsteins and their board all managed to fcuk it up that badly.
Any updates on this? As of writing this, they have an F rating with the BBB. So it wouldn't surprise me if you weren't able to exercise your rights.
With the BBB it’s gonna add like $4T in national debt before he reaches his 48th month. So regardless of inflation, we’re boned.
Yeah..you need to let a lawyer and get in touch with the SEC or BBB...or at least chat gpt and see what it has to say about how to deal with this issue
 He looks like he’s a lizard wearing a mask. Seriously though, he must really think people are dumb af (I know, I know they do). There are articles showing people can’t afford to feed themselves and their kids because SNAP benefits are cut because these ghouls took the funding away to pay for the tax cuts for their BBB. The worse part is the people who actively vote and support them are the ones being ground down in every way. It’s gross and just sad.
I am not sure about that because that Bonds SpaceX had given out immediatly were BBB (Junk) rated. Even Banks will stop lending money if they learn that the return of money is in danger.
Tell that to the $700 I made in BBB options that one day
[https://www.bbb.org/us/nv/las-vegas/profile/manufactured-home-manufacturers/boxabl-inc-1086-90082674](https://www.bbb.org/us/nv/las-vegas/profile/manufactured-home-manufacturers/boxabl-inc-1086-90082674) F Rating on BBB Watch out.
To demonstrate that oracle and their BBB- rating are basically toast.
Citadel is doing fine tho, selling bonds with a BBB- ratings and all lol
If its actual cash then yes you're right. But almost all of these companies are partially debt financing their AI growth investments by selling bonds. Oracle carries approximately **$160 billion to $167 billion in total debt**, driven by an aggressive, debt-financed push into artificial intelligence data center infrastructure. This massive borrowing and negative free cash flow of $23.7 billion in fiscal 2026 prompted S&P Global Ratings to downgrade the company's credit rating to **BBB-**, just one notch above junk status. Amazon is another example that did a massive round recently. Meanwhile they're all incestuously investing in each other and passing debt financing around in the process. Even if you are 100% cash invested in growth but are partnered with a single company like Oracle that financially collapses, your not going to skate away. If it was one company's balance sheet who cares, but we're talking about something over a trillion dollars that one way or the other relies on a repayment, profits, and a stable economy.
Why short the BB and BBB (Oracle, Datadog, Sandisk) with insane fees when you can short the AAA (Apple)?
Remember when he was shoehorning in BBB during the WSB short squeeze?
I'm guessing you aren't seeing all of this: The Core Financial PressuresMassive Cash Burn: Capital expenditures reached $55.66 billion for fiscal 2026. Capex is projected to surge to $90 billion–$95 billion in fiscal 2027 to construct artificial intelligence infrastructure. Negative Free Cash Flow: Extreme capital outlays have pushed Oracle's free cash flow deficit to an estimated $23.7 billion, a massive drop from a mild $394 million deficit the prior year. Credit Rating Downgrades: On July 9, 2026, S&P Global Ratings downgraded Oracle’s credit rating to BBB-. This sits exactly one notch above speculative or "JUNK" status. Skyrocketing Insurance Costs: Five-year credit default swaps (CDS)—the price to protect against corporate default—hit an all-time record high of 2.03 percentage points. Upcoming Capital Raises: The company plans to raise an additional $40 billion through 2027 using a combination of new debt issuances and share dilution via at-the-market stock programs