HR

pinethree777

I did that and quit my job at 56 years old with $1.3M and 2 paid-off houses, one was a rental that I gave to the kid. It was an accident really...my first boss took me by the elbow down to HR and made me sign up for the 401K. I never missed a penny or even looked at it much till I was 50. Assuming the US doesn't completely go to the dogs, time in the market will still be the way.

Internal_Field5970

Mods are just the HR department of WSB

Sick0h

HR 5731 finally passed by the 119th United States Congress, now to be signed by the President himself. Can’t believe we have formally passed a bill named “Bers R Fuk”

alexbananas

They fired the HR coordinator at my Job due to ‘organizational restructuring ’ lmao wtf is up with companies nowadays. I’m surprised I havent gotten fired, after Jan if they do I’d get 4 months pay as severance so wouldnt really mind tbh

PassiveF1st

A new hire just told the HR lady here that his check was wrong. He said they took taxes out.. Like $100! I don't pay taxes I'm exempt. Dude has 10 kids. -.-

iThinkiStartedATrend

HR - this guy right here

noggin_elastics

In my metro-area, it felt just like now: many went on about how strong the market was and how there was no way it was going to fail, while others talked about there being a significant bubble - this started small, but as time went on, both sides got louder, more insistent, and argued more frequently. Personally, I was concerned, as this talk had become fever-pitched, stocks seemed really overvalued, and concerning signs were everywhere in the background. One tiny example of many that always stuck with me, was my co-workers and I discussing in 1999 how things were at the point where even the biggest idiot in HR was not only doing rampantly stupid day-trading from home, but from a work computer as well.

Swearwolfofwallst

it's going to be recording videos that AI parses with a blackbox algorithm, summarizes keywords and buzz phrases that the AI and its handlers like and then auto-offers the job to the person who bids the lowest on the salary scale and signs their voice away to Ursula. Source, am HR.

Complex-Note-5274

Lazy HR people dont know how to handle the influx of applications from bots/ai

Valkorion335786

HR be like *”Guys I know we're all ready for the holidays with your loved ones but remember we're also a family here! Let's check our personal lives at the door and focus on finishing Q4 strong!"*

Positive-Tourist-319

Is your spouse an officer of the company? Executive level or board of directors? I work at a company that gives a lot of stock. 50k+ per year. Everyone I know has more than a couple hundred grand in stock. I never heard of an issue selling stock anytime. I think blackout period only applies to high level company execs. But she should check with her HR on the company’s policy.

Gunnawunna1111117

“Sir, you can’t call people retarded in real life. Only on Reddit subs , you’re fired, good day!” You then walk out the door calling HR a retarded bitch !

Valkorion335786

Work added me to an HR group chat Things are looking grim for Valkorion

Historical_Cover8133

HR? This man right here.

brk816

I smell a HR meeting in the future

Hot-Pop-3250

Remember to kiss the HR manager at 11:11am today

NlNJANEER

ChatGPT is refusing to generate a retarded baby because it violates ToS. But I already told HR I need extra time off because the kid takes after his father

NlNJANEER

Anyone know if HR asks for proof if I say I'm having a kid and need paternity leave?

debtmagnet

> what productivity boom? The productivity increase in software engineering is real and significant. I've also heard of disruption happening in call centers and HR. It probably varies a lot by sector. That said, it's highly unlikely that the overall economic boom that we're seeing is from AI productivity growth, but rather from AI buildout capital investment. In scale, the spend has been fairly compared to a recession-era government stimulus program.

Still_Dentist1010

I personally rolled my old 401k into my new 401k when I changed jobs. I was vested immediately, which I confirmed in an email with HR before doing any shenanigans with it, so there was no risk in my eyes. I’m doing a target retirement fund, but pushed out as far as I could even though it’s technically past my retirement date. They’re pretty aggressive when there’s a lot of time until planned retirement, so I think I’m up 17-18% YTD on it. Most people roll them into a traditional IRA, it’s effectively a 1:1 rollover unless you have a Roth 401k and then it’s different. If going from a normal 401k to Roth IRA, you’ve gotta pay your taxes on the full amount since a normal 401k is funded with pre tax money and Roth IRA is post tax. Traditional IRA is also pre tax money, so you don’t have to pay taxes on the 401k amount when rolling over. Roth IRA is tax free in retirement while Traditional IRA is tax deferred, so traditional gets taxed as income at retirement. What works best for you is going to be very dependent on your situation.

Dirty2020

HR, this fuckin guy right here

SeraphimSphynx

My advice: * Get the paperwork or brochure to make 100% sure that's the benefit model * Ask about 2026 benefit brochure as they have surely made those decisions already I once moved cross-country and took a 10% salary cut because the benefits more then paid for that salary cut. I accepted the Job in November for a December start date. Well it turns out every single benefit that HR "sold" me on was cut for the next year and they damn sure new about it during our negotiations. The other thing about benefits is very few states have any laws protecting them. They can be taken away at anytime. Just some items to consider before uprooting your lives and possibly being vulnerable as newcomers to a city with no family or friend support.

Ok-Replacement9595

Here is the Hrmp restrictions in the HR3944 now in committee for reference. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IN12565?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22crsProductBillCitation%3A%5C%22119HR3944%5C%22%22%7D&s=1&r=4

OsamaBagHolding

There is a 100 HR ladies between you and your doctor. But noooo universal healthcare would be too expensive

NotJustJason98

This amount of edge is peak HR violation

Anonymustafar

Looks like HR 3944 will pass. Hopefully then final version includes the language for VA docs being able to reccomend cannabis

NotMe357

16mins until Robindhood 24HR Trade!

STODracula

Unless it’s corporate positions, AI isn’t replacing any drivers at UPS or FedEx. HR departments though are getting gutted with useless automated solutions that suck.

ctrl-all-alts

It’s less expensive from an HR perspective. Fewer people will contribute 5%, compared to 4%.

Jumbonub

I can’t mentally address the market cap part of this because it’s convoluted, what is considered AI is basically a moving target at this point, and I'm tired. At an elementary level people need to understand three things: 1. AI is an umbrella term for these systems and software that can do things that ***normally require human intelligence***. (learning, problem solving, reasoning) 2. By the end of 2025 global spending on AI is forecasted to be around 1.5 trillion and it will probably go higher. 3. The biggest corporate expenditure for most large companies is labor cost. AI and machine learning does not have: Salary Turnover Health Insurance Retirement Overtime Pay Sick Leave Days off or Holidays Parental Leave Lunch Breaks In decreasing the work force companies do not have to hire as many people for HR, accounting, and middle management. If you the this will end at entry level jobs then I have free no subscription needed "AI chatbot" to sell you. TLDR: Culling of the workforce is the goal, the rest is extra.

-IQ200

Pretty sure being naked in the office would get me reported to HR, but I like the idea.

JoseLunaArts

Source: [https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employer-data-hub](https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employer-data-hub) Meme headlines “CEOs Claim AI Replaced Workers, HR Quietly Admits AI’s Name Is ‘Raj From Bangalore’” “Companies Praise Automation Breakthrough, Reveal Robots Need Visas and Eat Lunch” “U.S. Firms Replace Americans With ‘AI,’ AI Suspiciously Has Social Security Number” “H-1B Crackdown Reshapes Jobs Market, Executives Forced To Admit AI Was Just Cheaper Humans” “Stock Prices Soar After Companies Replace Costly Americans With Allegedly Robotic Employees” “Tech Leaders Tout AI Efficiency, Software Engineer ‘AI’ Caught In Break Room on Phone” “Corporations Blame AI for Layoffs, Won’t Explain AI’s Need for Health Insurance” “Firms Claim Jobs Lost to Automation, Newly Jobless Americans Notice Automation Has Apartment Near Campus” “Tech Execs Swear AI Took the Jobs, Reveal AI Is Actually Ravi and He Starts Monday” “H-1B Crackdown Forces CEOs to Admit They Lied About Inventing Robo-Employees” “Automation Gets All the Credit While H-1B Workers Do All the Automating” “Bosses Replace Americans With ‘AI,’ Robots Somehow Have College Degrees From Mumbai” “AI Revolution Continues: Corporations Replace Staff With Humans Who Cost Less” “Silicon Valley Says Machines Will Rule World, But Only If Their Visas Get Approved” “Productivity Soars After Workforce Digitally Reclassified As ‘Bots’” “New Policy Uncovers Shocking Truth: AI Looks an Awful Lot Like Immigrant Labor”

VenomBite214

That's what they say in army conscription office. Boomers like to say it too. Many HR say above endless opportunities during layoffs. Why don't they take those endless opportunities themselves? Hmm. I guess they are just too kind

NotJustJason98

Do not edge me like this, I'm calling HR

Singularity-42

That's why you just keep experienced seniors that are already used to reviewing shitty junior's code. Only LLM will work 1000x faster, will take all your feedback without a second thought, and also you can verbally abuse it without getting into an issue with the HR 😏

blalah

I think it's because they used an unfiltered AI model for the NPC's and it got too honest to pass HR checks

Internal_Field5970

Was the stock market and economy crash worth Lauri from HR taking her pronouns out of her email signature 

redditgolddigg3r

A little late to the game here, but I'm jumping on this hard at 2.45/share. They are tied to some of the biggest companies in the world, like EY and there's a partnership with MSFT on the horizon. The have a lot of stick rev and for these big companies, switching HR platforms in a MASSIVE undertaking, ie, not going to happen any time soon.

Throwawayhelper420

Looking at the article it looks like it’s mostly HR employees, and HR has honestly been overinflated and inefficient for decades.

financiallythriving

This comment was posted on company wifi and now I have a meeting with HR

nokarmawhore

https://preview.redd.it/nj41dhjnc9zf1.png?width=3214&format=png&auto=webp&s=51cba62ba345c4de6d088ee3dbbedbc13da90bdd 4HR candle back in bull flag and 4hr wavetrend fully reset. Just need ES to close today above 6843 and the party to 7000 is back on.

financiallythriving

Too late, you have a meeting with HR in the morning

brucekeller

Just imagine if they had taken a bunch of their money and had some some BellLabs shit, but like a real environment where their best could just go wild without a bunch of HR bullshit taking up their time.

hambone_83

I’m in agreeable with you that M&A is in the future and probably lots of it. GTI Will want to exercise their warrants because there’s a lot of value locked up in them. If they don’t exercise that’s lost value to GTI shareholders (especially if the stock goes above $48). There are also lots of assets RYMcould buy that keep their nasdaq compliance. European companies, cannabis technology, heck even an LP. A big part of what they liked inAgtify was their extraction technology. So it makes sense to raise the share count via accretive M&A and then exercise the warrants to unlock value for GTi and keep their majority ownership Also would point out that RYM is not close to generating cash even with future royalty payments. They are basically a shell company with like 30 employees. They rely on GTI for all their shared services (financial accounting, HR, sales, etc). They first entered into a agreement to pay $70k/month for GTI to file their financials and do all their operational work. They later revised it down (I think it’s $50k but that’s a guess off memory. Point is they need to seriously generate way more cash than they do today to be cash flow positive. Also hemp beverages are a big risk in my opinion. Never mind what might come from the farm bill - all though I’m confident drinks will be carved out. The risk for me is big alcohol. They have massive amounts of lobbying influence and lots of capital. If they wanted they could easily lobby to get the hemp beverages exactly how they want it and with $300M buy up and consolidate everyone that isn’t a drink owned by an MSO/LP. If this happens it will be difficult to see the growth you’ve projected for them when they will literally be David fighting Goliath However with all that said I’m still bullish on GTi/RYM. The team always executes and are proven winners thus far. I also think the amount of work and capital for this RYM play has to be more than meets the eye today or else it isn’t worth it. So I expect more news to come.

The-Struggle-90806

Amazon’s HR department is a call center in India

infamouskurou

Yes if thats where tech takes us. There will be new job creation as a result however. I work in robotics and the new blue collar force will be robotics technicians who deploy, fix, and retrieve data from crashes. This will be one of the new jobs that pops up as a result. I am okay with HR and SDEs vanishing for this.

userunknown2024

I suppose I could “run the numbers” by today’s standards. I can state that they do require more “preauthorization” than the ever have but this current calendar year my wife had a series health matter in January ($5.2k) and subsequent surgery ($44k) and I recently had colonoscopy ($12k). Total out-of-pocket was $3200 deductible plus another $2.7k for copay. This was the biggest expense year of my life actually. Dr visits are only 5% of billed and same with pharmacy. If you compare my PPO HDHP with the BCBS “red carpet” PPO plan, I still am in the black for this current year. The savings comes down to paying 40% less biweekly premiums and then less copay. The $2k they “give me” offsets the $3.2k initial deductible. I think our catastrophic out of pocket annual max is $12k. I used to work HR for my employer and would give a presentation on this. So even though that in this very busy healthcare year my HDHP and BCBS expenses are close in overall cost, at the end of the day I still have tens of thousands of dollars in my HSA that I wouldn’t have if I was strictly BCBS or alike. I expense everything to the HSA account too including mileage to drive to the Dr appts. I wish more folks would see the light and switch to HDHP but then again the MBA Graduates and lobbyists at the insurance companies would find a way to pinch more penny’s. 

Individual_Gap_77

Businesses are not hiring, atleast top 2000+ companies in the U.S. The new trend is global or offshore, relatively cheaper workforce and talent. 1) Have you tried calling credit card companies like BOFA, Chase, Citibank 2) Have you tried to get any issue resolved at a bank / back of office of bank, where are they? 3) HR of the companies, where are they located? 4) Have you tried customer service of your mobile phone operator? Today, Finance HR Accounting Customer Service I.T Tech - all have been massively offshored. Google Target example, why do they have offshore technical people when they do not have any business offshore? Same goes for your mobile operators? In the last decade, Jobs have been offshored - this is resulting in massive unemployment in the U.S. I hope people can look into this and wakeup. Demand their politicians to create laws to keep jobs in America!

Individual_Gap_77

Businesses are not hiring, atleast top 2000+ companies in the U.S. The new trend is global or offshore, relatively cheaper workforce and talent. 1) Have you tried calling credit card companies like BOFA, Chase, Citibank 2) Have you tried to get any issue resolved at a bank / back of office of bank, where are they? 3) HR of the companies, where are they located? 4) Have you tried customer service of your mobile phone operator? Today, Finance HR Accounting Customer Service I.T Tech - all have been massively offshored. Google Target example, why do they have offshore technical people when they do not have any business offshore? Same goes for your mobile operators? In the last decade, Jobs have been offshored - this is resulting in massive unemployment in the U.S. I hope people can look into this and wakeup. Demand their politicians to create laws to keep jobs in America!

snoodoodlesrevived

Yeah lol, I’ve also seen the Philippines and Laos. I can say, if you call Amazon ERC and many of their other HR lines, you go straight to an Indian call center

truemaverick98

Good job to those who listened and waited for DFLI to dip on the 15min chart. I'm predicting a spike up to 1.32 - 1.42 before it dips again to 1.26 - 1.15 to continue much higher if the interest still there. This will be due to the 4HR chart dip which must happen before further continuation.

ThouMayest69

I care about company equipment because if I don't and I break it then HR will drug test me. 

Stunning-Edge-3007

It is beyond frustrating having some terrible auto moderator deleting my comments because they don’t allow specific words and it’s hit and miss when it will deny them. So now I get to dig through several paragraphs on a cellphone and redact random words that it could be flagged by. God Reddit is trash these days. The concern is that Sweden used data already existing in its medical system. They agree there is in fact correlation and then say that due to siblings having different reactions it’s less likely to be Tylenol. That Sweden did not analyze international norms. For all we know the maximum dosage of Tylenol used in their particular study is lower in their country than in the US. That’s why a homogenous data set isn’t satisfactory. “ Results In total, 185 909 children (7.49%) were exposed to acetaminophen during pregnancy. Crude absolute risks at 10 years of age for those not exposed vs those exposed to acetaminophen were 1.33% vs 1.53% for a’tism , 2.46% vs 2.87% for ADHD, and 0.70% vs 0.82% for intellectual disability. In models without sibling control, ever-use vs no use of acetaminophen during pregnancy was associated with marginally increased risk of a’tism (hazard ratio [HR], 1.05 [95% CI, 1.02-1.08]; risk difference [RD] at 10 years of age, 0.09% [95% CI, −0.01% to 0.20%]), ADHD (HR, 1.07 [95% CI, 1.05-1.10]; RD, 0.21% [95% CI, 0.08%-0.34%]), and intellectual disability (HR, 1.05 [95% CI, 1.00-1.10]; RD, 0.04% [95% CI, −0.04% to 0.12%]). To address unobserved confounding, matched full sibling pairs were also analyzed. Sibling control analyses found no evidence that acetaminophen use during pregnancy was associated with a’tism (HR, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.93-1.04]; RD, 0.02% [95% CI, −0.14% to 0.18%]), ADHD (HR, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.94-1.02]; RD, −0.02% [95% CI, −0.21% to 0.15%]), or intellectual disability (HR, 1.01 [95% CI, 0.92-1.10]; RD, 0% [95% CI, −0.10% to 0.13%]). Similarly, there was no evidence of a dose-response pattern in sibling control analyses. For example, for a’tism, compared with no use of acetaminophen, persons with low (<25th percentile), medium (25th-75th percentile), and high (>75th percentile) mean daily acetaminophen use had HRs of 0.85, 0.96, and 0.88, respectively.” https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406#google_vignette Lets extract two sentences “In models without sibling control, ever-use vs no use of acetaminophen during pregnancy was associated with marginally increased risk of a’tism” “Sibling control analyses found no evidence that acetaminophen use during pregnancy was associated with a’tism “ I’m just not willing to hang my hat on a sibling analysis as being proof when they say and show clear differences then hand wave it away because different siblings had different results with the same Tylenol exposure. If anything it’s incredibly dubious it’s being cited as proof when it does in fact show there a heightened population of a’tistic children to parents who had high Tylenol exposure. I’m commenting on an Internet forum, a simply dialogue shouldn’t be beat to death simply because I didn’t prepare an essay to support my opinions. The state of the internet is very said. But as I pulled out of the analysis can you see why it might be reasonable to look into it further instead of ruling it out because in families which had an a’tistic child they also had a non a’tistic child. I’ve very rarely met families with more than 1 a’tistic child. It’s usually just the one and the rest of the kids are not. It’s just not a satisfactory answer to say it disproves the Tylenol connection. Do you understand what a sibling analysis is? That it is literally just comparing parents who had multiple children and saying “well not all their kids were a’tistic so this proves Tylenol is not the cause.” Seems like they knew what the answer to their study was before they did it and just threw things at a wall until they could find some obscure reason to prove their predisposed position to me. It’s not enough research.

InquiringMind14

Hmm - I am surprised. My direct report asked my company lawyer a question and request a written response. The lawyer called me - and told me to tell my direct report to stop the request - and they made sure that I understand that they couldn't be traced with nothing documented. I also got into a situation where my manager told me that HR passed them the message that I was not to contact HR in relation to a PIP case - and everything had to go through my direct manager with no documentation. And this was a Fortune 100 company.

truemaverick98

NMRA Looking beautiful for a potential run tomorrow, huge gap between 2$-8$ With EMA45 and MA200 crossing over on daily. Major resistance at 2.85$ Potentially breaking out tomorrow morning. and big gap with potential 200% gains. This looks really good with that 4HR EMA45 crossing over MA20 https://preview.redd.it/hwx26eop3cyf1.png?width=1476&format=png&auto=webp&s=c56cc7d9ad43c707496b2618b489fd902a73aa08 [](https://preview.redd.it/the-lounge-v0-pxysk7583cyf1.png?width=1476&auto=webp&s=d00e1c00fe042d54b99f5fd75baec4b1b1ee7311)

musiro77

There has been some amazing reports made by the now closed Hindenburg Research [Carvana: A Father-Son Accounting Grift For The Ages – Hindenburg Research](https://hindenburgresearch.com/carvana/) As well es convincing DD on WSB wich mainly rely on the HR paper. The CEO and his father sell millions of dollars worth of shares everytime they can while cooking the books, their Investor calls are a joke, when you join 4-5 Investor calls a week like my regarded self, instead of watching Netflix, you can notice these patterns when people obviously lie. Read the paper though it is a great start for research feel free to ask about any clarifications. Disclaimer : I have a short position wich is still open

truemaverick98

profit margin too low for my liking. It does look like its approaching a potential squeeze between EMA45 and MA200 Major resistance at 2.85$ Potentially breaking out tomorrow morning. and big gap with potential 200% gains. This looks really good with that 4HR EMA45 crossing over MA200

InquiringMind14

I still remember that someone actually asked HR during orientation when they talked about insider trading - if the CEO is making an internal all-hand idiotic speech, would selling the stock consider insider trading. Well the HR answer was that our CEO wouldn't make such speech, so the situation doesn't apply and is irrelevant.

truemaverick98

heavy wall at $0.40 by MA200 withing 4HR timeframe. Better off trading something above MA200 bigger breathing space.

Dagoth

I had a discussion with HR about a task I'm not supposed to do, but have to for some time. The logistics and organization is a mess and she just said “ use chatgpt” Hey! It's not a magical word that solves everything. We are talking about taking data from different sources, even orally on the phone,then put the data into a web based system using a lot of parameters, conditions etc. and ultimately using another completely different web service to assign tasks. Right now, EVERYTHING is done manually. I'm currently learning as I go and I should figure out a whole scheme to automate a bunch of services that can't communicate with each other from beginning to end? That fuck !

Aliman581

they need high burrito prices to be able to pay their HR managers 200k a year

MinscsBoosCousinGSpH

FAQ answer to a new drug theyre developing: FAQ section as follows: # What were the primary efficacy results for INT230‑6 reported on Oct 29, 2025 for INTS? The study reported a **75% disease control rate (48/64)** and median overall survival of **11.9 months**. # How did INT230‑6 perform in the sarcoma subset in the eBioMedicine paper for INTS? The sarcoma subset receiving only INT230‑6 showed a median overall survival of **21.3 months**. # What was the survival difference when treating >40% of total tumor burden with INT230‑6 (INTS)? Patients with >40% tumor burden treated had mOS of **18.7 months** vs **3.1 months** when <40% treated (HR 0.17; P<0.0001). # What safety and pharmacokinetic findings did the INT230‑6 study report for INTS? No dose‑limiting toxicities were reported, grade 3 treatment‑related AEs occurred in **10.9%**, no grade 4/5; >b>**95%** of active agents remained in injected tumors. # What proportion of patients experienced abscopal (uninjected tumor) shrinkage with INT230‑6 in the INTS study? Approximately **20%** of patients in the group receiving >40% of total tumor burden showed uninjected tumor shrinkage (abscopal effects). # When is the author webinar to discuss the INT230‑6 eBioMedicine paper for INTS? The company will host a webinar with lead and senior authors on **Oct 31, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET**.

Remigius

INTS NEWS Intensity Therapeutics (Nasdaq: INTS) announced publication in eBioMedicine of phase 1/2 results for intratumoral INT230-6 in metastatic or refractory solid tumors (Online First Oct 29, 2025). Key outcomes: disease control rate 75% (48/64), overall median survival 11.9 months, sarcoma subset mOS 21.3 months. In an exploratory analysis treating >40% total tumor burden, mOS was 18.7 months vs 3.1 months when <40% treated (HR 0.17; P<0.0001). Approximately 20% of >40% patients showed uninjected tumor shrinkage (abscopal effects). Safety: no dose‑limiting toxicities, grade 3 events in 10.9%, no grade 4/5 treatment‑related AEs. Pharmacokinetics: >95% of active agents remained in injected tumors. The company will host an author webinar on Oct 31, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET.

NotMe357

It pumps in 24HR trade, so that's a good sign for tomorrow. The next risk is earning.

Crazy_Donkies

Thing I like the most about them is their presence in HR.  HR is easily the first group to be replaced by AI in an organization.  Sorry HR folks, but it's true.  

JennyStrange

The no real data kinda matters there. Unemployment in the US is around 4% currently but understanding how that data is collected matters. It's using the amount of people currently receiving or applying for unemployment as the only statistic to quantify who's unemployed. This doesn't account for underemployed and not applying. Underemployed is where gig work comes in to really hurt the accuracy of the data. If you don't qualify for unemployment benefits that doesn't mean you don't need money. That leads a lot of people to pick up food delivery and ridesharing to make ends meet. Benefits are also cut scaling down to zero based on existing income. If the amount made through gig work exceeds that you won't receive benefits. To correct this inaccuracy the Bureau of Labor Statistics collects information on the number of jobs available in the market. It's essentially a census going out to registered companies every year asking how many people work for them. Unfortunately the quality of this data also sucks. Companies take a long time to respond, especially small businesses without dedicated HR departments. While they wait on the data they make estimates based on averages. So if they have say 1000 registered small businesses that didn't respond to the census yet, then they'll estimate that to be 7000 jobs since on average a small business staffs 7 people. Once the businesses actually respond and they have accurate data they update it. Recently that often leads to massive revisions such as the 910k reduction of jobs on market in August that led to the firing of Erika McEntarfer, head of the BLS at the time. The revisions happen for good reason too. It's becoming very common for people to register single person businesses. Often for dropshipping, gig work, and personal business such as etsy sales. These single person businesses do not operate at all like full companies and will very often take upwards of the full year to respond. While waiting on the data to come from them the BLS still counts them as normal small businesses with the average 7 employees. With that in mind it's not all that surprising we're seeing consistent massive revisions in the amount of jobs on market. This alone wouldn't cause the .25% rate cut and planned follow up cuts. What really does that is that AI is really starting to come to a head of needing to make money and it simply doesn't. Lots of people just hate AI and for people that do enjoy it the major companies can't find a way to monetize it effectively. Sora 2 and GPT5 are great examples. Sora 2 has the monetization strategy of trying to become a major ad space. GPT5 is directly a cost cutting model that sends less intense queries though GPT3 and 4 instead. The most prominent companies in AI development have also recently entered a concerning ouroboros investment circle. Last month Nvidia promised up to $100 billion in investment into OpenAI to help them afford renting data centers. Oracle, the most prominent company building data centers, in the same month signed a $300 billion 5 year contract with OpenAI for using their data centers. Oracle buys the chips to build data centers from Nvidia. So I would say the assessment that the cuts are coming based on no real data is not really all that wrong. The real data doesn't show anything all too bad happening in the economy. Once you know the context of how and why the real data is wrong though it brings up a lot more concerning matters. Consistent revisions of less jobs in the market means unemployment is almost certainly higher than 4%. There's also good explanation for why the reported rate is low, not to mention being underemployed is still not often a high quality of living either. Jerome Powell announced the first .25% cut and iirc wasn't shy about further cuts being likely. I personally think that unfortunately we are seeing both strategy and desperation. We're likely to see .25% cuts repeated over time until they manage to bring back job growth. There's the entire risk that doesn't stimulate job growth though. The ouroboros investing of AI indicates almost 100% we're close to the end of a bubble and if those major companies start going under in the near future then we'll likely be in a huge mess with inflation still up, major companies needing bail outs, unemployment high, and interest rates low. It seems like a desperate, but well thought out, bid to try to fix the underlying issues that will cause a recession in the near future without upsetting that the economy is technically "good" right now.

askga

Fiserv need a complete redo of its strategy, business focus, workforce culture and everything. Some of my close friends work there and they are always nervous, always distrusting colleagues, yelling managers, crying employees.. disgusting.. I didn’t believe the stories when I heard that such things happened at Fiserv..but now I can see how those things directly affect stock price. Failed HR… failed morale … failed SP…

drew-gen-x

I rarely ever short stocks, so I am the wrong person to ask. My largest positions are $PHYS (Gold) and $TLT. But when I see a meatball being thrown over the plate, sometimes I like to take a swing for the fences. The doesn't mean its going to hit. But I feel the potential to hit a HR on this trade is quite high.

Neamow

Amazon has fingers in so many pies that 350k corporate workers is already a skeleton crew. Apple has almost that many and is just in one market segment. Amazon has Retail, AWS, consumer electronics and devices, two streaming services, logistics, and god knows what else. And don't forget payroll and HR for all that.

yoma74

Your barometer for truth is utterly broken if you think HR helps anyone besides the company.

kalakesri

when did recruiters become so mean today the guy questioned my existence. i miss when the hottie HR girl would tell me i'm so cool just for being able to speak English. time to get in shape for military because my career is over and i'm too regarded for the market

rabbonat

So anyway Mr. Chin comes in today to set up an account and I load him up with AZN, LID, and SLNT, a bangin port. Now I'm in a meeting with that bitch from HR for some reason, but at least she has some nice hangers amirite?

Odd_Winter9070

Yeah, ops income dropped no one’s denying that. But UNH raised full year EPS anyway, meaning management already baked in the pain. 2025 is the reset year before 2026 rate hikes and Medicare Advantage repricing hit. HR1 and new CMS formulas shift revenue up for efficient players like UNH. Short term squeeze, long term margin rebound. That’s how tanks reload, bud. 🚀

Yogurt_Up_My_Nose

HR always the first to go.

jerk1

I heard sama can suck his own dick I've heard his employees and HR dept have repeatedly asked him to stop doing it during work hours but he insists that's where his best ideas come from

Glock99bodies

In reality these tech companies have been bloated for a long time. They made so much money and were set on expansion it didn’t matter how much labor costed as labor meant growth and growth was always good. A lot of these tech companies have reached maximum velocity and saturated their markets so fully as revenue has reached a peak. Mets isn’t gaining new Facebook/instagram users everyone who would be in the market already is. Now that you have a giant company making a shit ton of revenue you only need to increase profit. You fire all the people who were mostly focused on expansion. I’ve seen the work a lot of these people do in HR, or other bloated areas and it’s laughable the kind of work they do. We should have seen these layoffs post covid but tech had managed to delay it for a while and then AI helped them push the buck further but they have to downsize.

Gitanes

Nearly 40 years old. Fuck HR.

Ok_Barracuda_3410

I don’t agree that the rest of HR is bloat. I’m not entirely sure you understand what you are saying. Things would be very chaotic if the basic structure of HR was benefits and hiring. People are in this thread celebrating the termination of people who have nothing to do with controlling managers. That said, I would agree that managers should have a say in who is terminated or not. This is generally case anyway no? Managers are asked to provide a list of names of high performers and those that are not. Unless there is a mass downsizing which isn’t even HRs decision as they are just the messenger.

lisbonknowledge

I know about HR operations but you need to understand that most people have bad experience with the employee facing HR side. They have seen how Hr fuck over them often. People understand that HR is not for the wellbeing of employees but for company. HR most of the time is adversarial to the employees

RealNameScott

Don't even ask me about my HR-V...

InTheMorning_Nightss

No you can’t. Because HR will talk directly to executives to spin shit against you, whereas ChatGPT would probably give a far better answer based on what HR SHOULD be doing, whereas in practice they do the exact opposite to protect the company.

i_am_mr_blue

US is going to see massive white color job Exodus to Asia and Latin America. The remote work has opened the eye of C suite - lots of jobs will be shipped away. AI will affect some repitive jobs like HR / secretaries but they are not massively deployable yet

JRshoe1997

Good luck to anybody who works in finance, HR, marketing, or sales in this economy. Almost every company seems to be downsizing the corporate part of their businesses.

scone-

Why would you think they’re not more skilled? You think Amazon likes paying $10k just to apply for an H1-B? You think Karen from HR saw Sundrachati and James resumes were identical and decided she thought the name James is boring?

Sasuke082594

Look at the 4HR….

spacecoq

There are two functions in HR that are necessary: Benefits, and get people in and out of the door. The firing part - I think HR has WAY too much power over managers. It should be mgmt decision, not HR. The rest of HR is bloat.

Felix-th3-rat

The people who run the machine are the warehouse folk filling up your order, not the HR or sale rep having a 3hrs coffee break.

Ok_Barracuda_3410

Been there done that, turns out the AI program we chose has its own set of issues and messes things up in ways no one even thought possible. It does speed up the process when working as intended though. Hiring managers for my company tell me daily they hate it. At the end of the day, everyone thinks they can do it better than whatever system is in place at the time. There is no winning in HR and honestly things were less chaotic before we implemented AI. I’m sure there is better software out there, but I work for a major player and would expect them to have access to the best out there.

Ok_Barracuda_3410

I’m in HR Operations. I support people through various ways daily. I’m basically tech support for HR related issues or needs. A lot of people are being incredible naive. Massive companies like Amazon don’t have a normal HR structure like smaller companies do. You can have hundreds of roles that have nothing to do with firing or enforcing policy.

Ok_Barracuda_3410

I’m in HR Operations, I fix things for managers and new hires daily. I’m basically customer service for managers who don’t have a clue how to operate any of software we use for hiring. To say people in HR don’t support or fix is incredibly naive. Half the time, I’m answering the phone to help a manager figure out why the stupid AI hiring software did whatever stupid thing it did. Most people in my department push back and fight with leadership over insensitive decisions daily. The people I know are empathetic and would move mountains to make your day easier. Honestly, it sounds like you have only dealt with individual HR Generalists or Business Partners. I can’t comment on individuals but I can understand not liking someone whose job is to hover over you. Those roles are a tiny fraction of what an HR department looks like. Especially for a company like Amazon.

yoma74

It’s not mindless, and if you think it is I have no idea what utopian dream you’ve been living in professionally. The latest HR nightmare that I was a passive witness to was two people on a team attempting to get the other six people on a team fired because of personal issues. HR was right there with them engaging in hours and hours of inappropriate, hostile interviews making all six people fear for their livelihoods at a time when getting a new job is incredibly difficult. If it wasn’t for the union they would’ve been gone, thankfully the union did its job which is 90% of the time going up against HR and fighting for the job security of perfectly good workers who had zero marks against them before this or after this, and even after HR realized the two people had brought nothing but falsehoods based in absolutely zero proof, they still are the department that hires all the fucking idiots to come in and do all those worthless trainings where adults get treated like small children and taught to play nice in the sandbox as if that’s going to make up for two other adults you work with causing you sleepless nights for months due to their lies. There’s never any accountability or apologies from HR even after they realize they’ve chosen the wrong side in a conflict. Even when they outright admit it, nothing ever happens to them as it’s actually their job to torment people.

yoma74

Not at all. There’s a reason union reps spend a very large percentage of their job negotiating with the HR terrorists. They’re on opposing sides. One wants people to have great pay benefits and job protection, and the other side wants to protect the business at all costs. 

three_s-works

Huh? I mean HR is usually cheesy and annoying in my experience but i don’t think I’ve ever felt they are bad people

WOW_SUCH_KARMA

Actually, removing all subjectivity from HR roles would be a glorious advancement in corporate America. I could not disagree with you more. Get the favoritism bullshit out.

Cattovosvidito

Number one , I am not suggesting that everyone past a certain age or whatever should be fired. I am saying that there are stale parts of the workforce in most companies. Most of them being workers who have been with the company for a long time because they can't quit and are comfortable in their nest.  Number two your Space X example is so unrelatable its unbelievable. There shouldn't be any "stale workers" when it comes to the team that is building something as important or expensive as a rocket. Sounds like Tesla should have hired the guys from NASA to begin with. But that is already a niche field to begin with, with only a small number of people with relevant experience and qualifications. You think your example has any relevance when it comes to mundane positions like accounting, sales, HR, logistics, etc.? Most companies aren't dealing with anything as complex or exciting as rockets. In fact, many companies offer early retirement packages to get rid of the bloated upper management to reduce costs and let the younger folks get promoted. Something who has been with the company for 10+ years and has an average performance isn't going to ever improve.

MikeHoncho1323

Love love love cutting HR across the board, they exist to make our lives more difficult than it needs to be

taterrrtotz

Their HR team is already a chat service from Indian. It’s absolutely impossible to get anything done with them. It will be even worse now that it’s getting replaced with AI.

digitalnomad_909

Idk I can see AI being 10x worse as HR.

lolmyspacewhooers

In fairness, fuck HR.

OldHamburger7923

I took the VSP (severance package) at Verizon. My office in Florida was at least 80% Indian staffed. People don't realize how many highly paid technical positions in America are done by foreign born individuals. Indians hire other Indians and prefer them over any other candidate. So once they infiltrate HR or manager positions, they hire their own and completely take over the company in 10-15 years.