SPY

NarrowArtist

Same boat here, my SO and I are 6 figures in student loan debt with low paying jobs, even with our degrees. I did what I was told by the system and got cooked. The interest on hers alone is over 1/3 of her income. I basically decided I’m doomed if I keep doing what the system tells me and now I’m putting all my extra money into BTC and TSLA. Might be a foolish mistake but f it you live once and this is the only possible path to freedom I have found. My friends that make 4X my salary tell me to just invest in SPY but with the low income/small shovel I don’t see a chance for me following that path. 

RepresentativeKick66

SPY

ThinCrusts

Soo we're gonna slowly bleed till the US market reopens tomorrow morning and hope SPY keeps chugging along? Europoors and dumplings ain't gonna help us pump or even hold the line this time

meshreplacer

Works great trading SPY ETF. TACO trades are phenomenal.

ElPeroTonteria

Yea, we all did that… some learned faster than others…. You’re already trading a super volatile asset, it moves more in a day than SPY will in a month. Do you really need leverage here? Wait for it to suddenly drop, dead cat then buy around that reversal price…

foxroadblue

It’s a 0.8% increase over previous ATH. Literally who cares? SPY and QQQ are making daily new ATHs too

JSunshine11

I’m on my 4th 401k loan. Spy hits highs, I take a loan and buy BTC dips. Btc runs, I sell no more than 30% to repay to the loan when SPY is hitting lows. When SPY is low and I can’t sell BTC to pay the loan I hit it hard from my paycheck. Repeat. I like it juicy.

VariatCA

I'll follow up next time I chat with about it and float that as well. I had mentioned just DCA'ing what he could into the SPY as another option, but a 529 would also be a terrific choice. Appreciate the advice mate, cheers!

riscten

> buy 1/3 bonds, 1/3 SPY, 1/3 reestate/gold etfs 🤮

discussionandrespect

You don’t need a FA. Just keep DCA bitcoin and DCA SPY gg

sssssseeeeee

No. They aren't people that are interested in understanding the changing monetary order and economic landscape. They are salesmen that sell safe products that likely wont even beat SPY. I had a conversation with one, and asked him about bitcoin, and he said, "I just dont invest in things I dont understand, and dont advise my clients to either" WHAT!? Have you heard of Blackrock, they have the worlds biggest pool of assets under management, you know what their fastest growing asset class is over the last year? BITCOIN! GFY if you're in the financial advice industry and you "dont understand" bitcoin, fucking learn it, you dimwit. As for you, If you want to diversify, you dont need some FA to tell you to sell the "risky" bitcoin and buy some bonds and money markets, just sell 30% of you btc (pay taxes) and buy 1/3 bonds, 1/3 SPY, 1/3 reestate/gold etfs. The FA will just try and sell you insurance and shit you have to pay fees on. If BTC is all you have and you feel its risky, ask ChatGPT what to do with 30-40% of you stack to reduce risk.

Dettol-tasting-menu

Jokes aside, I feel that butters are actually not the burger flippers type. If you’re down on your luck and get stuck in a dead end job, maybe you’d be more likely to try new things to get out. I sort of feel that the butters are the traditionally do-well type, the TradFi bro, “well educated”, the VOO, SPY, investment properties kind who think they are doing so well (or well enough) that they don’t need to learn anything else. Their arrogance comes from the fact that they’re doing ok, but also at the same time feel super salty as they see bitcoiner (who they think of as idiots) are doing exponentially better than them in just a few years. They feel violated because in their eyes bitcoin idiots do not deserve the gains, it’s just gambling and dumb luck, and whatever paper gains we made are the result of some market manipulation or fake news. Their saltiness and pettiness means that they simply cannot accept that there is now a new form of money being adopted by the world and is leave them behind as we speak. The resentment over there is actually my entertainment. Too bad I’m banned, I’d love to check in on them and throw in a few infuriating comments from time to time.

MakCapital

Fundamentals would require the chain to scale which scales revenue. Currently sits near 0 revenue with near 0 activity. No return to investors without activity and scale. Defilama clearly shows highest earning chains and ecosystems. This is fundamentals. A single app on Solana brings in more than multiple lifetimes of the entire chain of Cardano. SPY, Nvidia, Discord, SpaceX, or whatever you want trade on Solana. Hyperliquid does more in buybacks from revenue in one week than Cardano investors will ever see. ADA is now a meme bet off ADA/ETH getting ridiculously low. At some point that ETH money will take the trade. Maybe. That doesn't mean you long hold it all the way to the bottom. Insane opportunity cost.

ElPeroTonteria

No, you cant. No BTC, No ETFs, No MSTR. Might even get forced out of SPY and a few other companies going forward. Look, $1m could solve all my problems and set me up really well, but I don't want $1m and not be able to save that in BTC in any way. No way, Ive got more patience than that.

Additional_Bar_6601

Appreciate it, guys — I was thinking of going heavier on SPY and QQQ, but your insights really made me want to invest more into BTC instead.

Ok_Gap_3412

Well he also thinks SPY being up 0.2% means it’s “ripping”

amgoblue

How about Bitcoin? Being that youre in that sub and all. Or maybe Lightning? There is only one. Everything else, literally, is a shitcoin. From crypto to SPY to USD. Id say bitcoin is a pretty revolutionary project that has a genuine, real-world use case that isn't just speculation. GTFOH with any other shitcoin bull shit.

BtcUpMyBooty

Probably SPY like every other shmuck

OlleKo777

50/50 SPY and Bitcoin

grapedog

I'd just have more in my brokerage which tracks the SPY... the SPY has had a great decade or so. AFTER inflation, it's around 10% growth year over year for the past decade... which is really good. Not fantastic, but very good. Dependable.

foxroadblue

Didn’t say it was bad, just boring. QQQ also outperforms SPY yet no one is excited about that either

avance70

SPY -2% "the world is ending!" BTC -5% "bitcoin isn't volatile anymore"

BitcoinBaller420

The S&P500 has been down 5 days in a row, down over 2% in that time. Similar to bitcoin. Hawkish comments from the Fed chair are likely driving the move. Bitcoin isn't going down, the dollar is going up, see the DXY chart for dollar buying power relative to other currencies. The fact that bitcoin isn't down 3x SPY is another good sign on the road from "risk on" triple-levered asset, to store of value. We're still early.

veegaz

All money from that SPY selling will flow into crypto, everytime. Rinse and repeat

Dorkasteri

This is not even bad considering how much SPY is falling. Chill out.

Over-Boysenberry-452

Because SPY

WelderAffectionate92

No need to be so aggressive - calculating returns over a period of time with a known CAGR is simple. Oftentimes it’s estimated using historic context I.e SPY as a rough average 8% annual returns. My question is what CAGR could be used to calculate possible future returns for BTC or if it’s even possible given the new, volatile nature of the asset (and asset class). Again - no need to be aggressive or act like a know it all, simply asking for clarification would be suffice.

jonoghue

If I HAVE to spend it I'd buy SPY shares for diversification. I have zero desire for anything that costs anywhere near that much money.

OriginalFluff

Justifies me never investing into SPY but I also play volatile stocks lol. I’d say the one caveat is that increased money supply is likely what allows SPY to essentially grow forever, so it is objectively better than cash FWIW. What tool did you use to analyze the data?

evgeniy_pp

You’re correct. I’ve just put SPY vs USM2 and since 1993 (the oldest year available) SPY +1,348.98, USM2 +544.05%. Not as bad as it was shown before. But if we calculate CAGR (SPY 8.71%, USM2 5.99%), and use M2 as the inflation rate, then it turns out S&P500 index (dividends included) only returns 2.72% after inflation for the last 32 years. Not impressive tbh.

cazzeo

The index usually doesn't include dividends, which are a substantial portion of returns. You'd need to compare against SPY or the SP total return index.

Technician_These

My point is if instead of having a Roth you just buy SPY and hold till you retire, you never have to pax tax till you retire, you are not subject to the minimum withdrawal, and if you have to pull out early there is no penalty. I fail to see the advantage of the Roth in this case

cryptoripto123

Roth IRA or Traditional 401k is really just about pre vs post tax implications. Either way both have some tax benefits so you should do it, and yes buying SPY is fine. I recommend people take advantage of these tax advantaged accounts in addition to buying Bitcoin. I just think people here are so hyperfocused on Bitcoin that they throw any common sense personal financial advice out the window.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

If they hold SPY they already have exposure via companies like Coinbase. These Buttcoiner idiots already own Bitcoin and they don’t realize it.

vohemiq

Don't listen to amateurs, use this: [https://www.coinglass.com/bull-market-peak-signals](https://www.coinglass.com/bull-market-peak-signals) Pros use data driven approaches and confirm confluence with fundamentals and important news; in this line of thought I also think that some underrated tools is using other (macroeconomic) symbols, namely, $DXY, $SPY, $CPC, $BTCEUR, $TOTAL; why? Because: \- $DXY; when dollar goes up, $BTC goes down, thus when dollar goes down $BTC goes up and the intensity of this movement is directly proportional to $DXY and $BTCDOM \- $SPY; $BTC is significantly correlated to the american market, when $SPY goes up, $BTC typically goes up and viceversa \- $CPC; since $BTC is significantly correlated to the american market, you can use the total put call ratio to gauge the reversals; when $CPC tops, $BTC bottoms, and when $CPC bottoms, $BTC tops; we haven't bottomed out $CPC yet... \- $BTCEUR; this is a more realistic view of $BTC price action without dollar fluctuations, so movements here tend to show the actual picture of $BTC value \- $TOTAL; same approach as above, but encompassing the whole crypto picture; paired with $CPC this will allow you to determine wether we've reached a local top in $BTC or an actual $TOP in the whole crypto market Be mindful that you can always swing short too, so instead of buying you can also try to go short... I don't think it is time to short yet...

BinaryPatrickDev

Completely agree in diversification. I would just go SPY vs a bitcoin ETF. Again why buy the ETF when you can own the real thing.

UC_DiscExchange

You could have just invested in SPY and tripled your money and instead investors are down over 95% over 7-8 years. Bold strategy cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

Riflurk123

It will slowly get closer to the levels of SPY over time as we won't be able to have these insane gains we had in the last years since inception

My5thAccountSoFar

Still, historically outpaces SPY.

theatomicstandard

Dump before the recession hits. BTC is not a hedge against SPY. When stock prices fall, so too will Bitcoin prices. Even if you are a full Bitcoin Maximalist cult member, wait 6 months to a year to buy when the recession hits, and then just buy more at a "discount."

TroubleInMyMind

And SPY in EUR is down from Jan 20th

Dettol-tasting-menu

Gold is a mid level boss, not the ultimate big boss. Ultimate final boss is “all monetised assets” - things that aren’t money or savings but are used as money and savings - real estates, bonds, stocks… look at SPY, VOO and Mag7, or $100m apartments - they are just modern day savings account. Bitcoin is going to eat them up like Pac-Man.

supercoolguy54

Same way no one is talking about how SPY is over 600. That’s fucking insanity. But it happened quietly and with a new ATH becoming an every day thing, nobody cares anymore.

theMonkeyTrap

Bitcoin is still a speculative investment. I'd put about 40% in BTC, about 40% in S&P 500 etf like VOO/SPY etc and use the remainder 20% in muni bonds or dividend stocks depending upon state of market. I'd also look at my debts and possibly use the 20% portion to SLOWLY clear out the high interest debts like credit cards etc.

ElPeroTonteria

people get rekt every day on the SPY... Dumbasses gon' dumbass...what's your point?

bitusher

There is a distinction between ownership and control . For example the largest Bitcoin ETF , Blackrock's IBIT has 735,741 BTC now https://bitcointreasuries.net/etfs-and-exchanges/ishares-bitcoin-trust They don't own these bitcoin , and don't even directly control it either as those bitcoin are held by multiple custodians with them acting as Asset managers . The legal ownership is spread across many individuals and companies who own shares in that ETF Another example is a Publicly traded company like Microstrategy, Inc. that has 607,770 BTC https://bitcointreasuries.net/public-companies/microstrategy Those Bitcoin are owned by all their shareholders and since they are listed in the QQQ ETF and soon will be listed in SPY ETF for inclusion in the SP 500 , their shares are **owned by millions of people** Saylor only has 9.9% equity in MSTR thus you could say that he only owns ~60,169 of those bitcoin

ParkerGuitarGuy

Odd? I would say pragmatic. Yes, I have had Bitcoin since around 2014. I always ask myself: “If I were to lose every penny of this, can I stomach that?” If the answer is no, then I consider diversifying a bit better. When this person says “you’re going to make 15%” I presume they’re talking about an index like the S&P500, probably looking at last year’s returns on SPY. When they say “put it in Bitcoin” for the “50%-100%”, that gives me the image of telling someone whose investments are diversified (which speaks to their risk tolerance for that amount of wealth) to move it into a single asset with greater volatility. I took the risk buying BTC and it paid off for me, but it might not for someone else. My advice is always to treat this as speculative and don’t yeet your nest egg at it.

Naillimixam48

SPY is not a stock, its the US stock market, just playing devils avocado lol

holdmysugar

What are your high conviction stocks? I'm 50% BTC, 25% SPY, 25% XLK

grapedog

It's no different with Bitcoin to say a Roth IRA that tracks the SPY500. While Bitcoin is outperforming everything, I like diversity. DCAing into Bitcoin isn't much different from my 401k, Roth, or brokerage... They all generate income pretty passively. And like all the rest along with Bitcoin, it takes money to make money. Like a 401k feels like it's crawling, even with good returns, until you hit 100k... Then it starts to move. The more money you put into any investment vehicle, the better the returns will be over time... It's how it works. But you have to have money to make more.

Major-Rabbit1252

I’d say you’d re-invest a portion. I’d liquidate 25k for living expenses, keep 25k in BTC, invest 200k in ETFs like VOO/QQQ/SPY, etc. Essentially take that 600k and diversify it

eupherein

They think anything except low cost index funds (such low returns that the management fee is scary to them) are gambling. They would all likely agree that even SPY is risky

pissingpolitics

I don't come from wealth or means, but had a small fund setup as an infant of 1k. It was all in low risk mutual funds that barely kept up with SPY. Fast forward to 2012 and I started wanting to try bitcoin as an investment strategy... however my financial illiterate parents wouldn't let me shuffle the now 5k in to my account. So I put other money in to it, traded it through highs and lows, to a total of roughly 35x my initial investment. Paid of school, a car, and 2 years of rent up front to give myself a fresh start. If I didn't need to pull from BTC to pay life events, I'd still have roughly 15 BTC today. :/ Gains are Gains though.

KamikazKid

1/6th is pretty good, I'm currently over a third BTC, and I think you really don't want to overdo it. Personally, I'm trying to move towards a three part approach, I want to be 1/3rd SPY, 1/3rd BTC, and 1/3rd cash. The cash is key, you really want some leg room to move if either the stock market starts dumping or the bitcoin top comes in soon.

Turin1973

I went top heavy into XRP. Got too many people in my ear about it to ignore. Idk what’ll happen in the end but I’m willing to gamble. And I bought some LTC ETC ADA and TRX. For ETF’s (and I know there’s some overlap), I’m in SPY QQQ VOT AAAU SLV ITA XLI SCHD VBR VOE and I’m going to start buying GBTC as part of the rotation. And then the only stock I buy is BRK/B. It’s kind of like an ETF

Time_In_The_Market

Absolutely. I only mention BTC as that’s the thread we are on but even SPY or QQQ, strongly outperforms housing appreciation.

TransitoryPhilosophy

Sure; now look at performance since January. BTC is up 24%, USD is down 10%, markets are up (SPY) ~7%. If you agree that the markets are stagnant, why did you say in your post that they were “flying”? The only interesting development since the start of the year is that BTC has detached from US equities markets, and that’s because the fundamentals of the US economy are under attack by its own administration and some people think BTC is a plausible safe haven. The idea that tariffs are anything other than a tax on Americans and American business is brain dead.

ExhaustedConstantly

What’s next to buy? Smart Pay ($SPY), Bitcoin hyper ($HYPER), Best token ($BEST)?

SD-TX

Sir its a casino. This isnt like buying SPY.

foxroadblue

That would be below the expected SPY returns and total shit. SPY doubles roughly every 7 years

Over_Explanation3348

Have you not noticed that BTC is a cult? Look at gold which supply isn’t even limited. It’s just a matter of time… think long term. SPY also has bear markets but look at it long term and zoom out. Yes BTC might fall from 200K to 150K but it doesn’t matter.

LargeSnorlax

Specifically, Alts are an IQ test of when to enter and exit. Altcoins are like options, extremely high risk, extremely high reward, extremely high failure rate. They are not VOO or SPY or Bitcoin in this case. People who bought ETH when it was $10-$100 made a ton of money. People who bought XRP when it was sub $0.01 made a lot of money. People who made ADA when it was $0.02 made a lot of money. People who bought LINK at $0.20 made a lot of money. These aren't ICO prices or cherry picked prices, a ton of people bought them at this amount. For instance, LINK IPOed at $0.09, ADA under a cent, XRP way under that, ETH $3. However, you were **never meant to hold Altcoins for decades** - And that's where a ton of people make huge mistakes. If you're still holding something like NEO or NANO or VET or any of the 2017 coins in 2025, you're doing it wrong. In and out like an exchange. Take your profits and move on.

Gen-Z-Hero

There is this phenomenon between Bitcoiners that you guys think that if you get an idea others will get it too. It is not like that, simply. Think about gold fifteen years ago. It WAS the hedge against inflation, yet, 99% of people haven't stacked gold. That's it. Or the SPY index, or a divident portfolio. Not everybody "gets" THE thing, which is happen to be Bitcoin right now. People won't get it. And exactly that is our luck. If everybody is rich, nobody is.

discussionandrespect

Bearish market setup? SPY is at ATH lol

foxroadblue

Who cares when it hits a new ATH by 0.1% lol. SPY does that every couple of days, no one is getting any life changing money from this. Wake me up at 200K

foxroadblue

Who cares when it hits a new ATH by 0.1% lol. SPY does that every couple of days, no one is getting any life changing money from this. Wake me up at 200K

Catoutofthebag69

I’ve quit vaping for about 9 months now and have been trying to funnel all extra income into bitcoin and SPY

axuriel

I totally get the security perks but look, the average person isn't going to the trouble of all these when they can spend 2 second and a couple clicks to buy SPY or any traditional stocks. Convenience and management is a real thing. That's why there's a whole industry of financial advisors. Which is also why IBIT became so successful. As long as this inconvenience exist, bitcoin will never be widely adopted as part of a general portfolio.

guanzo91

Anyone farming stablecoins instead of dumping into SP500? I'm yielding 10-15% APR with low risk which is quite decent, no idea how long it's going to last though. Meanwhile SPY is grinding upwards and I'm wondering if I'm doing the right thing.

Ok_Rent_2937

Yes, that’s all my expectation is. That BTC will outperform QQQ and SPY over the next 10 years

MakCapital

Bitcoin is a better ledger for measuring the world's wealth than collecting tons of a shiny metal (gold). We are not cavemen anymore. We can actually use a global accounting book controlled by no single entity. Before any number in that book can be altered, you need majority consensus. All other tokens are just representations of ownership over something else. A token can be ownership over a stock, bond, land, commodities, any security, or even the revenue a decentralized network or protocol generates from user fees. You value each token on a case by case basis and understand what you actually own and how much of that thing you own with each token. That's it. That's how Bitcoin and all other coins/tokens are valued. Yes, Bitcoin is very worth holding. It should be used as a savings account, and you'll likely continue to outperform holding SPY or any stock until Bitcoin passes the value of gold over 20 trillion.

DryGeneral990

I bought ETH at 3k in 2021 cause everyone said it would go to 10k by EOY. Then I watched it go to 4k last year and didn't sell it cause everyone said it would pump this year. I wish I bought SPY instead.

wpletch

Spy has never dropped by 50 % since Inception. In 2002 the SPY was at 88 bucks. Today it is 625. A almost 600% increase in 23 years. Without all the volatility

No-Average3202

Everyone was blaming Trump and the tariff for the dump, but now SPY is at an all-time high, so how does that make sense? Maybe it wasn’t because of Trump or tariff after all???

Glum-Wealth-6171

Lol timber!! Meanwhile SPY is gonna hit 630 today. Up 2% and 10% on the month...

HotInvestigator7486

SPY keeps making new ATH. We are cooked if there is a market drawdown. Alts will vanish

MrSir6t4

When I learned about BTC Sold all of my SPY

chi_guy8

Not quite. One reason Bitcoin appears to be appreciating is that the U.S. dollar is losing purchasing power. In many ways, Bitcoin’s rise reflects the debasement of fiat currencies rather than pure real growth. Similarly, long-term returns in the S&P 500 (e.g., $SPY) often reflect capital preservation in real terms rather than substantial real gains. While Bitcoin has increased in real terms, a portion of its perceived appreciation is simply a reflection of nominal differences between BTC and USD. When someone like Michael Saylor projects future Bitcoin valuations (e.g., $1 million per BTC), those forecasts often assume significant dollar devaluation. In that context, $1 million in the future may have the purchasing power of only $500,000 today. So while the nominal price may rise, much of that gain may be a function of inflation and currency debasement rather than a true increase in intrinsic value, though it is increasing in real terms as well.

BitcoinBaller420

You’ve missed the point. You can measure buying power in whatever you want. SPY and Bitcoin are priced in yen too. The question is the final buying power of the money, and assuming it’s going to be “all the wealth of the world” isn’t Hal’s most clever moment. 

chatrep

I think this is huge… I meet so many people globally that want to invest in US stocks and ETF’s. Think SPY/VOO, Tesla, Google, Nvidia, etc. As far as I know, this will be the easiest way to access US markets.

hurfery

And the USD has lost 10% of its value in 5 months, so we're not really close to a debasement adjusted ATH for BTC or SPY.

turribledood

Because it's all just monetary supply fuckery. M2 supply is at ATH, and guess what? So is BTC and SPY!

SpontaneousDream

Well for starters BTC is up 60% on the year. SPY up 13%, Nasdaq 15%, DJIA 12% on the year. That doesn't even mention things like MSTR, NVIDIA, etc. All of equities are up. Trump has been talking about replacing him for well over a year. This is not "new news". In any case, news has picked up more recently but I think it's mostly priced in at this point. Everyone knew it would only be a matter of time until he replaced Powell.

dataCollector42069

I have six figure returns on just the SPY not including other equity and crypto exposure. Have fun once the music stops in crypto though :)

SpontaneousDream

HAHAHA BRO...let me give you some facts: * SPY 10 Year Performance: 246%, 13% CAGR * BTC 10 Year Performance: 45,000%, 136% CAGR Lmao stay poor

dataCollector42069

I been doing quite good the past 10 years putting money into the SPY every two weeks, but thanks.

eupherein

Back then there was no “cycle.” Just people who mined from $0.002 per, up to $30 in, and back down below $5 all within the same 4 years. r/Buttcoin was created during this time when a majority of people in this sub today, would have likely agreed with their sentiment. No one who sold at any price was an idiot, and anyone who held all the way up/down/up was quite honestly insane, and at best, extremely imaginative. No one could have imagined the ticker being next to the S&P and NASDAQ on new stations, with treasury companies and exchanges listed in QQQ and SPY. Just DCA lol

hiddenintheleavess

Everyone will say more BTC. IMO, Eth is worth holding as it’s essentially the second best behind BTC. Sol I would probably sell but it has potential for growth. IMO, I’d sell the RMNBY and VOO- if you want SP exposure I’d go SPY over VOO unless you’re holding for like 15 plus years. NVDA is probably a keeper, short or long term. GPUs are not going away anytime soon. TLDR: Sell the SOL, RMNBY and VOO. Consider SPY and buy BTC for the rest.

JudgeCheezels

Even TA hasn’t really been a religiously followed principle with stocks lately. Penny stocks DGAF about TA, the newest meme coin aka SPY moves on a fucking tweet. So yeah, TA should really only be referred to when swing trading or leaps.

biba8163

| | 3-Month | 6-month | 1-YR | |:-----------|:-----------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | 30%| 12.7% | 77.8% | SPY | 13%| 4.54% | 13% | QQQ | 14%| 6.3% | 14.4%

Alfador8

1 week: BTC: +1.8%, SPY +3.5% 1 month: BTC -1.2%, SPY +4% 6 months: BTC +12%, SPY +3% 1 year: BTC +75.3%, SPY +12.8% Your thesis is based on SPY's slightly better performance than a notoriously volatile asset on a one month time frame?

Alfador8

BTC 1 week: +1.8% SPY 1 week: +3.5% BTC 1 month: -1.2% SPY 1 month: +4% BTC 6 months: +12% SPY 6 months: +3% BTC 1year: +75.3% SPY 1 year: 12.8% Your thesis is based on SPY's slightly better performance than a notoriously volatile asset on a one month time frame?

Lord_Alamar

WHERE ARE THE STOCK BEARS WHERE IS YOUR SAFE HAVEN ASSST Looks like they're wrong again folks it's just another WIN for US STOCKS WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE THANK YOU SPY THANK YOU NASDAQ THANK YOU DOW WOOOOOOOOO STOCK BULLS WIN STOCK BEARS LOSE CRYPTO BULLS LOSE CRYPTO BEARS WIN USA USA USA

Suspicious-Holiday42

you mean, dollar is going down. Thats why SPY goes up

Glum-Wealth-6171

Kind of terrifying markets rn. SPY is just completely going nuts... meanwhile all the small caps and crypto are either dead in the water or dropping. Btc has barely moved in 2 days.. wtf to do?

rvalu

Tell her the truth. Tell her you took a highly risk reward play that turned into mud. Don’t let her be unaware. You should have told her to put money into SPY, or VTI and leave a percentage in CDs.

jwz9904

QQQ and SPY getting towards ATH. I am being mocked as the crypto dude in my class.

Kidatsfresh

Coinbase stock up over 40% in the last month. SPY about to reach all time highs. Hopefully BTC is up next

Glum-Wealth-6171

Jeez.. ok ok I get it... BTC and SPY calls from now on.. doesn't seem like either market gives a shit about anything else.

panthera_N

NVDA stock is at all time high, SPY near ATH, same as BTC. TSLA sucks but don't underestimate Elon fanatics