TSLA

zalhari

What happens to car companies and airlines if the the laws of physics are broken and everyone can fly like Superman. (Wrings hands) Should I buy TSLA puts?

Kmyre5

CN se put AAPL, TSLA or MSFT on the same chart? Or would that make BTC searches unintelligible without a microscope?

Soil_Electronic

quite terrible earnings for TSLA and Netflix no?

Show-Me_PotatoSalad-

She buys HOOD & TSLA all the time. I don't listen to people who are part of the scam.

Spy-_-C

Pretty sure she also thinks TSLA hitting like 4k by 2030

RecommendationFun563

What if I am an Institutional Investor and I buy say $10 Million worth of this ETF Can Also lend it out like a Stock or a Bond and earn 3% or 4% or 5% on it ? Or if I buy it and put it into Cold Storage is that better ? Where is the Lending Power and Borrowing Power vs. A Blue Chip like APPL or TSLA

Soil_Electronic

Will be interesting if TSLA can earnings are positive

RossoneriEA

Key Financial Events Next Week: 1. Retail Sales data - Tuesday 2. Building Permit data - Wednesday 3. Existing Home Sales data - Thursday 4. Jobless Claims data - Thursday 5. $TSLA $NFLX $GS and $MS earnings 6. ~10% of S&P 500 reports earnings

B1indGuy

I would diversify your portfolio. If you like risk, then invest in tech, aka TSLA. Also have some in a high yield dividend portfolio so that when the markets are red, you can convert that to your high risk investments.

StumbleMyMirth

>When you purchase shares or tokens on the secondary market you don’t form any contract with the issuer you are buying from other brokers, speculators, investors, etc. I understand that a security is not the *thing*, it's the *agreement*. If I buy $1MIL of TSLA from a brokerage, I just bought shares. If I called the Tesla CFO directly and invested $1MIL for some preferred stock and other rights, that would be a security (right?) If that's the case, how could any brokerage or exchange (trad-fi or crypto) ever be guilty of "selling unregistered securities" if all they are doing is facilitating the trade of a share or token/coin between brokers, speculators and investors who have no contract with the issuer? It's not that they are "selling unregistered securities" rather "they are facilitating the trade of an (share/coin/token) that was never registered with the SEC" Right? Telsa couldn't have just skipped the S1 and IPO process and somehow flooded the market with shares to be freely traded on exchanges without ever having registered. (could they?) The shares themselves may not be securities, but the registration must have happened for the brokerages to be allowed to offer them. Correct? If so, then I don't see how yesterdays ruling allows exchanges to suddenly start listing XRP again. The token itself may not be considered a security (just as a Tesla share isn't a security) but Ripple Labs never registered, Tesla did. Wouldn't they have to register before an exchange would be allowed to offer it?

StumbleMyMirth

>Tesla complied with the registration requirements in order to IPO and do subsequent fundraising rounds. So I don’t understand that analogy. I'm just trying to understand why the split in the ruling. Tesla files an S1, goes through the process, sells shares of the stock they issued to participants in the IPO to raise funds for operations - all insiders or institutional buyers hoping to see profits from that investment based on the efforts of Telsa. That is a registered sale of a security. Meets the Howie test, clear to all. I then, as retail guy, go to my brokerage and buy some shares of TSLA, also hoping to see profits based on the efforts of Tesla. Is that sale to me not also the sale of a registered security just as it was to the IPO participants? An investment contract where I hope to profit from the efforts of Tesla? It seems with crypto, the ruling here is saying that the pre-mine and ICO was an illegal sale of an unregistered security, but sales of the token itself by an exchange do NOT represent the sale of a security. It doesn't feel like these "tokens" are any different than "shares in a company" though, in reality. Telsa certainly couldn't have skipped registration and IPO and simply started selling shares to retail on brokerages - that would be an illegal sale of a unregistered security, no? Why is the share sold on an exchange a security yet a "token" isn't when they were all created and issued to grow a company and create profits? It just seems to me that most coins were created by some person or small group of people coming together and creating their own block-chain software (or modifying bitcoin code), essentially forming a software company, minting some huge quantity of tokens to distribute first to themselves, then to "institutional" investors in an ICO and then marketing it to retail. How is that any different than issuing shares in an IPO and then selling shares on exchanges? It seems most rational people would say "it's not any different, these are software companies using "blockchain", "decentralized", "token" vocabulary to skirt around the laws, and many (but not all) of them are doing so fully intent from the start on defrauding retail investors through pump and dumps. Almost all of these coins really aren't decentralized at all, it's just a team that formed a software company, wrapped their equity structure in "tokens and blockchain" rather than "shares" to get around securities laws. That's what it seems like to me at least, but I'm sure there is much I don't know.

carsonthecarsinogen

It’s like the TSLA bull that said since Tesla was adopting Bitcoin payments you could theoretically add the entire banking system to TSLAs market cap… These kind of “articles” must be satire right?

rhaphazard

The fund has always taken profits on the way up when certain positions become too big. The difference in the previous cycle was that everything was rising together so every position stayed about the same size in the portfolio. You can see ARK taking profits on TSLA every bull run because it's almost always at the limit of their fund's single-holding rules.

247drip

Totally agree. It’s still seen as very risky and unworthy of investment by the old money crowd. The funny part is the same people who scoff at the idea of investing in crypto may simultaneously hold a significant position in growth tech like TSLA or any of the ARKK family of companies. Very similar risk profile but perceived entirely different.

cryptoripto123

This is why I said... you already had that chance with where crypto is today. You had that chance with many stocks (TSLA, AAPL, other FAANG stocks, etc.). Ask yourself why you weren't there and how if it's so easy why isn't everyone else filthy rich from all these massive moons? This is why as much as I'd love to be super lucky too like winning the lottery or finding the next moon coin, I advise people to think of crypto as a PART of their asset allocation. Make sure you focus on making money from a good paycheck. Put money into safer investments like ETFs and 401ks. Max out your 401k or IRA before you start throwing thousands into crypto. Build up your house fund or your kids' college fund first. It's fine to throw $100 into crypto for every $1000 you put into 401k, but you shouldn't be putting $100 into crypto when you've put $0 into your long term savings. Don't get hurt kids.

cryptoripto123

You might win or you might not. Looking back you can find tons of combinations to make you rich. You could've retired off of TSLA before. Or you could've retired off of any of the FAANG stocks. Or what about CSCO/MSFT in the 90s? The list goes on. Or you could've already retired being in Bitcoin in 2012. Any one person can get lucky, but if you're going to disregard basic financial advice of diversifying risk and at least having a bucket in safe assets, chances are you are more likely to get hurt than to get rich.

funkinaround

It's not investing. It's speculating. Investing is what you do to have stability of principal with an adequate return. Speculating is what you do when you expect prices to rise. Investing is when you buy US Treasury bonds yielding 4%. Investing is when you buy AAPL bonds yielding 5%. Investing is when you buy shares of a utility company that pay a stable dividend. Speculating is when you buy TSLA shares at 20x forward revenue estimates and 500x forward earnings estimates. Speculating is when you buy NVDA shares at 20x forward revenue estimates. Speculating is when you buy Bitcoin hoping the price will increase. I wish Bitcoin was more inflationary to temper its price increases. There'd be much less focus on trading and speculating and more focus on its use cases and ecosystem development.

SevereSignificance81

Bitcoin is the second page on MSTRs annual report, try again. TSLA reported quarterly on their btc gain/loss. Public companies try and entice investors with strong governance. That means not hiding large investments in very alternative assets. Asset managers do not typically engage in proprietary or speculative trading for their own books. There is a difference between buying client assets for their funds and managing a corporate treasury.

Tonijran

Tell someone at work you own a shit load of TSLA they will look at you the same way. People have different risk tolerance

002_timmy

In DOT or TSLA? Because I’m down big on both

Omphaloskeptique

I was made whole a few days ago. Embed transferred my shares from FTX (TSLA shares) to my current brokerage. Now just waiting for NY court ruling to see how my coins get here, but I am glad to have put this behind me.

Busy-Development9246

Haters: 'Electric cars? American cars?' You: 'Laugh all you want, but my TSLA investment is electrifying my portfolio with a +12,732.52% surge. Who's laughing now?' 😂

bvandepol

I’ve bought TSLA at $1.93 in Jan 2012.. EVERYBODY laughed at me.. “Electric cars??” and “American Cars??” +12,732.52% to date 😂

DavLithium

They will keep saying this stuff until the very end, they did massive FUD on TSLA while loading up their bags as well.

StockTrix

but why is it that as a 'poor person' you CHOOSE to invest in crypto, and not equities - AAPL, RDSB, TSLA ?

extrastone

How many of these "sh\*tcoins'" products do you use? As I don't live in the United States I probably use a lot less than all of you: AMZN: I have ordered books from there. AAPL: I had an Apple computer as a child. META: I use WhatsApp a ton and Facebook a little bit. GOOG: Who doesn't use Google and YouTube? My phone is also Android. MSFT: I use Linux TSLA: not yet, but I hear those cars are quite good and easy to maintain. SNAP: never NFLX: never These all seem like perfectly fine stocks. I just don't see how they have the explosive potential of bitcoin.

dencol

Swapped Algo for BTC in early March. Since then BTC has increased ~50% and Algo has dropped another ~50%. Easily the best move I’ve made in crypto so far. Still down bad, but progress is progress. $TSLA is helping the cause, too.

NewHorizons6M

Hopefully, I'll still have 2 decades left in me 😂 My diversified portfolio is pretty much set. BTC ETH TSLA AAPL MSTR etc, Several Index funds. Oh, no gold here. Oh well. And YES to your question, more BTC and it's proxies.

NewHorizons6M

Consider this. Put your emergency fund into a High yield savings account. After that, DCA into BTC and TSLA. The ratio is up to you. Good luck!

DavLithium

Same thing happened during TSLA crush, JPMorgan was buying enormous amounts of stock while the FUD campaign was on full throttle

ahengest

TSLA and some other stocks have 10x in my portfolio.

DavLithium

I honestly dont even understand what u want people to tell you. The strongest arguments pro crypto r one google away, read “The bitcoin standard” for starters. Nothing we write here will convince you coz u r shitting the bed coz its dumping now. The reason we dont promote crypto to anyone is because you shouldnt give financial advice to anyone, u could have done the same shit with TSLA like a year or so ago and people close to you would have crucified you by now (oh remember TSLA is projected to be 2800$ pre split). And on top of it crypto is in its early phases and it takes time to set it up and to manage requires at the very least some basic knowledge of surfing the space, im not going to bother to explain crypto to my father that barely knows how to open an email.

DavLithium

I hate to sound like conspiracy theorists but it might be a blow on crypto for the big guyz to fill the bags. Linda like JPMorgan was doin a FUD campaign on TSLA while buying large amounts of their stock for cheap.

Giga79

I'm very optimistic about what's currently in development. This is ETH Centric, but that's mainly what I know- Account abstraction is coming very soon. This means smart contracts can act as wallets (and vice versa) which can enable gas-free transactions. How painful is it to mint a "free" NFT only to be charged $20 in 'gas'? Soon the NFT author will be able to preload gas into their contract and enable a truly free mint, which will be much more useful as more things become tokenized (imagine buying a TSLA stock and paying $20 in gas each time, literally unfeasible). VISA is focusing on AA very much. Soon you will be able to log into the VISA homepage and do XYZ task (like set up a reoccurring bill payment) while in the background it's being processed on-chain where you have the option to self-custody your assets. *Smart wallets* are smart contracts. Most support social recovery - which is a MFA seed phrase recovery service you can set up using your own devices or trusted third parties. I have mine set up using my old phones and old computer, so if I ever lose my seed I can use 3/5 of my spare devices to recover my wallet. My wife has set hers up through customer support 2/4 so as long as she has at least 1 of her 3 devices and support is available she's able to recover her assets. CEXs or even banks may be good recovery agents to average people who don't hate the status quo - lose your wallet? No problem, just phone the bank and get them to reverse it. PDS or proto danksharding is right around the corner (Q3). This will reduce the cost to use an L2 Rollup by 30-100x, also reducing the cost to maintain or deploy an L2. If the gas fee is $0.10 today it should be fractions of 1c by the end of this year. L3 layers are being built out now. These are composable with their L2 and so there's no need to bridge assets around. Coinbase is launching their L3 soon which will be composable with Ethereum(Optimism) *and Solana* dApps. A developer will be able to deploy on the BaseL3 and pull liquidity from all of Optimism including all of its other L3s, defeating the need for dev's to deploy on 7 different chains which fragments liquidity (and adds cost/complexity). When you use an L3 it doesn't need to ask which network you're on, it will just show your total balance and you can work with that. So Grammy can buy some ETH on Coinbase, withdraw to her wallet, and then use the BaseL3 as effectively as I use ETH now across 7 different networks. Or else Grammy can continue to use her VISA and not know or care she's 'doing' Ethereum with every transaction. Things will be much more painless that way - and worst case if you make a mistake and need to undo you won't be charged a $50 learning fee. The ETH roadmap is only halfway finished now. We are absolutely still early. When I first began to use crypto 5-7 years ago it was much more difficult, more risky, and often required technical knowledge. Even since the burn was implemented very few transactions get *stuck* anymore so newcomers rarely have to learn what a nonce is. Slowly but surely.

athomasflynn

This is false. Accreditation isn't an assumed requirement to buy a registered security. If you buy a share of TSLA right now, you're buying a security. The problem with crypto securitization has nothing to do with preventing retail purchases, it has to do with the regulatory framework that would be applied to the organizations that want to sell it way more than those of us who want to buy. They would have a higher burden, more risk and registration requirements, which would result in higher retail fees, but we'd still be able to buy them. It's pretty important to keep in mind that when the SEC sends a Wells notice telling a project that it's a security, what it's really saying is "Where's my money, bitch!" It's a shakedown. They're funded through the settlements they bring in and the fees they're owes when someone registers. They're not trying to keep us from buying, they need our purchases to subsidize those fees.

HerrJemine123

Exactly, she was a one hit wonder. Ever since that TSLA trade she messed up

Giga79

Yes, but also no. You're asking a really strange question. Not literally, because 1 BTC (or whatever) will always be exactly 1 BTC. Crypto is meant to be hard money, and the only way to create more of it is to do difficult or risky work in the network for its rewards. "Is USD compounding?" - *not by itself*. Yes in practice because these are markets based on supply and demand, and the supply of fiat valuing everything is infinitely growing while the supply of crypto/stocks/etc. is relatively fixed. Compound interest from the stock market comes largely from the *increasing supply of fiat* over time (aka *debt*) unless the stock is highly profitable and issues dividends (rare these days). On average the stock market increases by ~10% in value each year, so on average each 7 years you will double your money.. **Not after 10 years** as you may imagine, because the interest you earn over time compounds with itself. This principal applies to crypto as well as any market. If every time your stock goes up $10 you take $10 in profit then your stock investments can't compound. All compound interest means is your profit is either kept in or put back into the investment *on top* of your principal amount. Example: your BTC are worth $100 and they go up 10% in value, that means you went up (100+10%) **$10** in value. BTC goes up 10% again, you don't go up by $10 the second time you go up by (110+10%) **$11** instead, and up (121+10%) **$12.1** the third time it increases by 10%, so on. Example: if you achieve a static 10% APR (not accounting for inflation) and DCA $100 a month into the stock market. On year 40 you'll have bought $48,000 worth of stocks with a net value of $530,000, and you will earn $53,000 in interest that year - notice that is more than the total amount put in! By year 60 those stocks will have a net worth of $3,600,000 off your $100/mo ($72K) principal. *This* is the beauty of compound interest. If you sell 90% some years into this scheme you will handicap how much interest you'll earn the years after. Crypto is hard to suppose such things as 10% annualized gains. It's even hard to suppose the stock market will maintain the same gains it had over the past 20-40 years, but that's what people must assume to bet on it. So it's not for certain, these things may go down in value then you have *no* rewards to compound with your principal (which is literally 1=1 unless you're holding something inflationary). But in a practical sense *with money printers existing* everything *hard* (that you can't simply make more of) compounds relative to fiat over time assuming demand is at least static. Demand for crypto has been increasing over time by any metric. The tech is finally scaling. BTC averages over an 100% annualized APR (on a 4 year cycle), so had you put $100 in after 7 years ago that'd be worth something like $12,800 right now. With that, if BTC went up 10% again you'd go up (10% of 12800) by **$1280** and not (10% of your original $100) by **$10**. Compound interest is a LONG game. 10% may not help you at all, but *45 years* of 10% absolutely can. To put it simply if you have assumptions such as *crypto will go up X% in value YoY for a long period of time*, you can use any online stock or math 'compound interest calculator' and the results will be exactly the same whether you're looking at BTC or TSLA or real estate or whatever - you're simply looking at a percentage, ie math, and the math doesn't care what your tastes are. Do be mindful of crypto inflation too, I guess. You may expect 10% in profit but if some coin inflates by 100% each year it is much more difficult for its demand to outpace the new supply all the way to the point of value appreciation... ARB for example only issued 10% so far, so if in 5 years after issuance if each one is worth 80% less or $0.20 that means the *total* (market cap) of all ARB are worth 2x what the total are worth today - the same reason fiat in your mattress isn't worth more each year.

GiverTakerMaker

75% Bitcoin, 25% TSLA

thistimelineisweird

Like the time he said he was going to take TSLA private at a certain share price and then... didnt.

Behind_da_Rabbit

That's what I thought when I bought TSLA at $29. "It's tripled in price baby, I've got to cut some risk!"

bvandepol

I sold TSLA at x10 before any the stock splits etc in 2013.. If I kept it until ath i never had to work a single day in my life.

Cultist6661

The more accurate question is will the Saudis who own and are in charge of that part of TSLA begin accepting BTC.

yldf

First of all: bollocks. Secondly, 1000x in 27 years isn't as insane as it sounds. That's 29% annualized. Sure, that's a lot, more than triple the average return of the stock market, but it's less than what some TSLA ultra-fanboys expect of TSLA. Still, not gonna happen in this case.

Notorious544d

Elon sold TSLA stock to fund his Twitter acquisition

throwaway92715

I mean, when Elon Musk sold 8bn of TSLA stock, it spent the next year going down.

GiuseppeBoselli

I will spent 200 euro on TSLA and the rest just investing in real estate

MechRxn

No no no, it goes like this: Visit WSB -> yolo options on TSLA -> sell -> buy btc

zooka19

Pretty much just stick to indexing if you're not experienced in single stock picking / or don't have the time. I'm beating the market so far by 8%, but I didn't last year lol. I've basically picked the typical stocks like AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, TSLA, but then I've also diversified with stocks like ULVR, AZN, BRK.B, KO, ABNB, SHEL, UU. With Crypto being volatile already, I wasn't happy with just being tech & energy only, which I was before lol. In a bull run, great, but in a bear, my stock portfolio was just as down as much as Crypto lol.

fixerdrew02

Sold my TSLA, AMZN and MSFT for profit and put it all in BTC. Hope I didnt fuck up

txiao007

META Market Cap surpasses both TSLA and BTC today

YourMomIsTooHeavy

You mean shorts like TSLA?

icidark

My take here is simple Regulate crypto and you lose crypto If you think that insider trading don’t exist, that big companies are traded without manipulation, that big money is made by smart great dudes — I only can smile Crypto was about 0 regulation all the time Who cares about you or someone else scammed for 2-3usd while you can literally make 10x on some shitcoin everyday 99.9 percent of projects are useless scams and rugs. Take APT for ex. The is no need for the token for APT — it’s needed for team and funds to make huge money and rug Everybody knows that 70%+ of users are Sybil farming for airdrops. Teams know that and dgaf because they take money from funds based on users count. Funds don’t care too because that have tokens and they can pump them after airdroppers dump. And yeh, retail. Well, retail get rekt every freaking time because this is how you learn. Buy ARB, AISHIB3000 or TSLA — you will get rekt 1-st time you do because this is how you learn.

KAX1107

Exchanges? Coinbase custody alone holds 2 million on behalf of millions of customers. There are also unidentified exchange addresses, funds like GBTC and other types of custodians including collaborative custody services, not to mention public company treasuries like MSTR and TSLA. The number of addresses with 1 bitcoin (∼1 million), 0.1 bitcoin (∼6 million) and 0.01 bitcoin (∼15 million) are all trending up parabolically year after year and more and more people are taking self custody. Bitcoin continues to be become better distributed over time and always will. A billionaire or large corporate fiat entity being able to acquire more bitcoin than you has to do with fiat inequalities and not bitcoin. The reality is you had the same opportunity today as you did 14 years ago to acquire bitcoin before anyone else. Everyone in the world having the same amount of money is not equality, that would be unfair to people offering more value. Equality is everyone playing by the same rules on a level playing field including banks and governments.

mikeoxwells2

TSLA is down 20%

lordsamadhi

He was sick of the SEC going after him for everything he said publicly about TSLA. So, he found a shitty copy of Bitcoin that had a tiny market cap and quietly bought A TON of it over a few months. Eventually owning more than half the supply. Then, he started pumping it. The SEC can't touch him because it is not a regulated security. Now he can have his fun in peace, and not have tothink about the long term consequences of his actions. He couldn't do this with Bitcoin because Bitcoin is real money. He wouldn't have been able to buy up more than half the supply without pumping the price to millions-per-coin. And his subsequent pumping would have far less effect on such a large asset. Goes to show how simple it is to manipulate these shitcoins. Any government, or rich individual could take down 90% of "crypto" without even trying hard. But they wouldn't be able to impact Bitcoin even if they poured all their resources into trying to attack it.

StockTrix

half n half. A wide and diverse portfolio ranigng from super safe S&P100 ETFs, individual stocks in low risk companies like KO and JNJ, higher risk companies like TSLA, right the way through to crypto bluechips like BTC, ETH and DOT, not much shitcoin, and a few cash investments under my mattress accumulating growth !

gilroy713

TSLA is the only acception. So I'm covid survival rate into crypto and TSLA. which should be crypto anyway

zooka19

>Possibly panic sold some bags They always do. There's also a lot of fud articles surrounding BTC and TSLA, so it won't surprised me if it falls further when Murrica wakes up.

txiao007

It is not about BTC they own/sold. TSLA is an indicator of all thing tech.

txiao007

$TSLA

frogiscat

>Electric car maker Tesla (TSLA) did not buy or sell any bitcoin in the 1st quarter of 2023, the company reported in its earnings release Wednesday afternoon. This is basically the article. I guess Musk is too busy with Twitter.

Notarandomthrowaway1

Just picked a little BTC up. Feels high but my average is still a little higher. Did so well on ETH and TSLA 2019 onwards then damaged a lot but buying BTV on the way up to 100k...

Oneloff

TSLA would have issues if they didn’t. Personally, I think it was a smart move, also some investors weren’t happy to see BTC on the TSLA balance sheets.

OneThatNoseOne

It doesn't really matter since he can manipulate and pamp the shit of out of doge pushing the price 20% in less than an hour. Far more for his pamping of TSLA with so many promises of features that never materialise years after the 'sure' schedule

Shiny_asshole

I am yet to see folks that got AMZN or TSLA tattoo on their arse but if ya go to twitter or TG, it wont be hard to find eloncumdoge inu written on someones ass here lol

5458232

I wonder how many times Elon has pumped the TSLA price by saying that full self-driving is right around the corner.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Twitter has partnered with eToro to allow users to buy and sell cryptocurrencies. Users can search for the relevant "cashtag" on a range of financial investments by putting a "$" sign in front of the ticker, like "TSLA" for Tesla stock. Twitter CEO Elon Musk has been an avowed fan of cryptocurrencies long before he acquired the platform. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

TheLoungeKnows

I hold both BTC and TSLA. Anyone in here saying TSLA is overvalued needs to seriously reevaluate their life.

ElectrikDonuts

“TSLA has poor fundamentals, over valued. I only invest internet money that has No fundamentals” - this sub basically

5458232

TSLA is basically a meme stock that has nothing to do with fundamentals. Tesla did dominate the US EV market for some time, but the competition has caught up and they've lost a ton of market share. Other car companies are making better, cheaper EVs, that don't have Elon's toxic brand attached to them.

Grasshopper4500

So close to buying 40k when at $600. Per coin. Biggest mistake ever. Did buy at 6k, 12k, 18k and 26k, sold at 52,500 k. Still best investment ever!!! Recently started buying at 26k. Also bought NVDA, TSLA and META, stock symbols for A.I. about to EXPLODE !!!

samcrut

I bet it was a part of his $44B payback plot. Instead of paying it back in cash, he's using market manipulation to drive TSLA and DOGE up and down so they can buy/sell with advanced notice of what insanity he's about to pull.

PoisonWaffle3

I'm working on it, TBH. I honestly have no desire to become a billionaire, but my goal is to net a few mil over the next 5 years or so, and retire before I turn 40. From there the plan is to grow to 5-10M via trading/investing over the next 5-10 years, then coast. I've learned a lot from one of my good friends who is an active day trader (think WSB but smarter and less yolo) and is brilliant at TA and factoring in the macro. I've watched him turn $150k into over 5 mil in 3 years, and watched him turn $33k into $800k with one stock in 6 weeks (TSLA $200 calls at EOY 2022 to mid Feb 2023). It's all about knowing the macro, reading the charts, finding way undervalued assets, calculating risk/reward, and placing relatively diverse bets. Oh, and having some startup capital helps (that's been the one thing that's held me back).

moldyjellybean

Is it falling for it , or you didn’t take profits. My friend had them all One , LRC , Algo, Doge , Vet , GRT all actually gave him multiple times to take profits in the 2x-15x . April 2021 , August, September, November, even January 2022 One was .37 after everything fell in November 2021 , he was up big. Like if you miss 4 -5 times to take profits, you can’t blame anyone Like every bull run, everyone had a chance to take profits but he kept sending me screenshots and greedily holding for 30x-50x profits. Who’s fault is it if you are riding that shit all the way down. I could have sold TSLA at 1100 before the split but hey I got greedy and can’t blame anyone for that

Arcosim

As long as he doesn't get punished he'll keep pump and dumping, not just with crypto but also with his stocks. He's been doing it since that time he caused the TSLA debacle by claiming he was taking the company private.

uppya

My coworkers are saying I'm crazy buying TSLA stock. What the heck.

MildFig

TSLA lowest share price EVER! Lol?

nycperson2741

Guys. Let’s slow our roll, here. This is the asshat who tanked Twitter and has TSLA at its lowest share price….ever. At this point this is like the guy from Enron endorsing his share prices.

Which-Ad-9338

Between 2020 and 2022 TSLA jumped from $29 to $400 Between 2020 and 2022 BTC jumped from $5.2k to $67k Since Nov TSLA has had about 50% growth Since Nov BTC has had about 56% growth Maybe by providing this, I've also shown that BTC doesn't have as much risk as I'd initially implied when compared to stocks. It also shows that you can get the same gains from a popular tech stock. Hopefully, we've both have something to take away from this conversation now, instead of just insulting each other.

isu_asenjo

I agree, and yet you can write this exact same write up but replace the word Bitcoin with: “TSLA”, “BRKB”, “GOOG”, or any type of non-dividend paying stock, etf, or index fund. The only way to make money is to sell it to the next fool. Once people stop buying in, the whole house of cards collapses. The price of these stocks do not correlate to the money the companies make, but to the emotions of the investors (one stupid tweet can tank a stock even if the company didn’t change anything). Same for index funds and people also say “you have to hold long term as the market always goes up”, average returns are 8%, etc… Think about it..

Harucifer

\> The only reason it doesn't get more criticism is because the cult community will brigade and silence anyone that tries to talk against it. ​ just like SHIB, BTC, TSLA, GME, LUNA... Social media broke regular investing

theproffessorsnape

Right!? So he wants to put a pause on [Open.ai](https://Open.ai) which he co-founded, as well as the adoption of his TSLA.0 Autopilot system? Doubt it!

DivinityInsanity

Used to have a bunch of ETFs and single stocks, but sold it all for crypto by now. Name of the game is to diversify, but why fucking bother with stocks when it's the the same risks, but for a fraction of the rewards. And don't give me that bullshit about volatility or whatever. And let's especially not pretend that investing in TSLA or NVDA or whatever is any different. Blue chips my ass. Not sure why I'm getting mad at you guys. But just needed to vent a bit. 🙏

LocusStandi

Yes and no. Obviously, not your keys not your crypto. But exposure to btc can be vicarious, like via MSTR, TSLA etc. In this way, you can indirectly profit from the value properties of BTC. Theoretically, Saylor talks about how the btc can be programmed to be fairly distributed to shareholders in case of liquidation too. Which allows for a structure of responsibility of the company toward its shareholders

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin's market cap has reached $524.14 billion, making it the 11th highest asset globally by market capitalization. This places Bitcoin just one spot away from reentering the top ten category of the most valuable assets, currently occupied by electric vehicle manufacturer Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA), with a market cap of $602.09 billion. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

marekt14

Bitcoin was hype, and it pumped both TSLA and Elon's BTC bag. What's the point in supporting it after, when the purpose's been met?

lordrognoth

Mostly silver bullion and TSLA stock when I have anything left to spare. Silver's actually a lot of fun collecting, and you can hold it.

srpoke

My bad. I ignored TSLA and NVDA

Regular_Chapter_788

Why are you specifically mentioning TSLA in a Bitcoin subreddit? You will find most of us here dislike Musk, and he lacks conviction in BTC evident in the fact they sold most of their holdings last year.

lux--__--888

18 months from now... CPI will be 0.5% Fed funds rate will be 2% Bitcoin will be $250,000. TSLA will be $1000.

whitslack

>only a couple of corporations hold bitcoin on their balance sheet (MSTR & TSLA) It's [many more](https://bitcointreasuries.net/) than a couple.

Spiritual-Amoeba-116

TSLA ran 100+% in 7 weeks. What are you celebrating?

drproctor007

Look at Cathy Woods forecast… Always buy, never sell. Borrow against when needed. IMO. Not financial advice. btw same with $TSLA

One_Landscape541

Moons go to 4$ and I’m getting a TSLA.

ablablababla

TSLA? That's a bold choice these days

lordrognoth

BTC, Silver, Gold, TSLA is all anybody needs in life

orville_w

Great answers. Thanx. \- TBH, my lengthy question was a little-bit loaded and bit rhetorical b/c I actually do believe that crypto is inextricably & surreptitiously intertwined with the legacy equities markets, traditional fiat banking systems & TradeF etc. It's difficult to prove it simplicity with hard facts & data (not sure thats a healthy thing), but there's not a lot of believable alternative explanations. The oppsing rationale (mostly from crypto degens) sounds like fantasy storytelling & gets pretty elaborate. It's somewhat well known that SVB was woven into crypto / stable projects like Circle and many other VC backed crypto projects. b/c those projects were required/motivated by the VC's to do their fiat banking with SVB & SVB wanted that business. Most crypto bro degens refuse to believe that VC's engage in this boosting conduct with their portfolio companies... (I know. I live in San Fran and am in the industry. VC do this crap constantly). I dig your TSLA example. I was thinking about that exact same example when I wrote my questions. It's the most obviously irrational & illogical valuation story in the market. Total BS. (AMZN & NVDA seem to be sharing the leaderboard with TSLA at the moment also). Thanks for the perspective.

greenappletree

Very interesting: here is the top 20 |Name|Market Cap| |Gold logo Gold GOLD|$12.638 T| |Apple logo Apple AAPL|$2.380 T| |Saudi Aramco logo Saudi Aramco 2222.SR|$1.933 T| |Microsoft logo Microsoft MSFT|$1.890 T| |Silver logo Silver SILVER|$1.232 T| |Alphabet (Google) logo Alphabet (Google) GOOG|$1.171 T| |Amazon logo Amazon AMZN|$947.15 B| |Berkshire Hathaway  logo Berkshire Hathaway BRK-B|$665.46 B| |NVIDIA logo NVIDIA NVDA|$572.31 B| |Tesla logo Tesla TSLA|$552.07 B| |Bitcoin logo Bitcoin BTC|$469.28 B| |Meta Platforms (Facebook) logo Meta Platforms (Facebook) META|$469.00 B| |TSMC logo TSMC TSM|$455.02 B| |Visa logo Visa V|$450.77 B| |Exxon Mobil logo Exxon Mobil XOM|$433.72 B| |UnitedHealth logo UnitedHealth UNH|$432.54 B| |LVMH logo LVMH MC.PA|$419.16 B| |Tencent logo Tencent TCEHY|$417.16 B| |Johnson & Johnson logo Johnson & Johnson JNJ|$398.61 B| |JPMorgan Chase logo JPMorgan Chase JPM|$386.31 B|

blackenedavocado

does that mean short TSLA??

astockstonk

Elon going to dump TSLA shares to buy a failing bank?