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HugeLarry

I wonder if it's due to positive sentiment caused by the price NOT dipping after the rate increase and act failure. In other words, some folks saw the price resilience, took it as a bottom signal and decided it was a good time to buy.

Aggressive-Tap1493

Beware of Coinbase. It's a scam of a business because your money is NOT secure from being stolen. This is my own personal experience. I started building up my crypto account over a 2 year period and had nearly 16k invested in Coinbase. I was told by Decentralised Masters to use Coinbase as it were "secure". So I trusted them. Then last month someone hacked my coinbase account and stole 15k of that money. This is despite the fact that I had followed all the security protocols and enabled 2FA. I've no idea how someone got the code on my mobile phone to access my account. No idea. Coinbase couldn't answer me either. I lodged a complaint and Coinbase replied saying it was my fault. The money was stolen out of their system but it was entirely my fault. They told me to report it to my local law enforcement agency. Coinbase will happily take your money and happily charge you for transactions but when it's stolen out of your account remember that it's entirely your fault. Not theirs. They have no responsibility whatsoever. All the above is 100% genuine. Beware of Coinbase. It's a scam of a business. My name is John Lyons and I live in Cork city, Ireland.

Comfortable-Escape

Wow this is such good information… NOT

Impressive-Fig-9532

how is it NOT? its a top10 coin that went to $300 at one point. This sub bashed it at $10...

Nightlightz24884

Not entirely true. Dcent hardware wallets were NOT hacked. Only the hot wallets, in other words, their app wallet. If you had put your hardware phrase into the app on older versions you were also compromised. This is why Cold storage wallets are the only way to go.

Vivid-Head-6484

A no vote wasn’t based on anything against bitcoin/crypto per se. Why vote yes when you’re going to control the house and senate and can then use it and anything else as leverage? On another note though, we do NOT need permission to use bitcoin as intended.

RatherCynical

This is a stupid way to frame it. Crypto sources its funds from ordinary banks. People put their savings into DeFi because when banks pay 0-2%, NOT using DeFi is losing money to inflation. That's where all the ETH, DOT, ADA, AVAX, FTM, MATIC, NEAR, and every other NFT going crazy comes from. Without that money, no alt-season. Because we shifted regime from nearly 2 decades of 0-2% interest to a 4%+ interest regime, the death of alt-season happened in 2022. It's never about "crypto being a lifestyle". It's about the money valve getting firmly clamped shut

TheresNoSecondBest

Is this a good time to plant a tree? That's how your question sounds to me, mate. Anyway, congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Particular_Reality19

The Senate is disfunctional. The Republicans are a leaderless mess and the Democrats are only united in their goal to NOT work with the Republicans on anything, even if they helped write the bill. Stay tuned for November.

sgtslaughterTV

/u/due-function-158 do NOT respond to direct messages. anyone doing so is trying to scam you.

Outrageous-Look4111

How is what is happen rn NOT market manipulation…

chris96m

I was NOT expecting that, more of a bankrun, kudos to coinex

GumbyDeninos

Yeah guys, close your ears and DO NOT DARE to update your opinion according to new information. DO NOT do ANYTHING intelligent.

Wildwildworld123

I'll just say this...Nobody knows for sure, but lets say theres one more dip. BTC goes down to 60k(i personally dont think it will) I would NOT wait for 50k. If we see 60K again you better jump the fuck on it.

bitusher

> BTC is first and foremost a store of value. Many users like myself see Bitcoin primarily as money and I spend it with merchants almost everyday . You could suggest that most either treat it as a store of value **or as a speculative asset to day trade or swing trade** though. Thus its not just a store of value even if you consider its most popular use cases. >The only way node runners (as the system currently stands) would have any real sway over miner (mining corporations) choices, is if BTC's primary function was transfer of value (currency). This does not follow. Economic Full nodes absolutely enforce the consensus rules and can directly influence which chain a miner decides to mine >there's no reason for miners to listen to anyone. Miners are also Bitcoiners . Many run their own full nodes , contribute to development , spend Bitcoin. There isn't miners vs others. There is a spectrum of users who use bitcoin in many different ways. >Let's even say 60% agree, and run a different implementation of BTC. Why would the miners make a change? ESPECIALLY if that change had some kind of threat to miner incentives (profitability & future profitability)? This is not a hypothetical scenario and was already played out in the 2017 Blocksize wars >In this hypothetical, what happens if the miners do NOT run a different implementation? You need to be more detailed as to the power dynamics and support for a change. Is the change a hardfork ? A soft fork ? Which groups of users support the change and what degree of support? Devs, merchants , exchanges , miners, users , wallets ? >Don't forget that two mining pools already currently make up 43% of hash.. so "Secure" is surface level of course. Miners hold less power than you assume as proven in 2017.

b1mm3rl1f3

I spent all weekend chatting with seedsigner through telegram. They advise NOT to use Ian Coleman (even offline) for real seeds with funds. Generate your seed through seedsigner only if you dont trust RNG

Tothinkoutofthenut

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RareVibeDelight

Clarity Act does NOT control Bitcoin. Bitcoin has been going up and down (extreme volatility) since 2009.

TheSauce775

If bitcoin can CLOSE above 82.5k on a weekly structure, then we will NOT see lower prices this year, unless something crazy happens to move the price.. but if we can stay under the 82.5k and not close above that number on a weekly timeframe, we still have a good shot at 40-50k bitcoin by October end, i hope at least 😂

silverGameOfThrones

Ledger is NOT an open source wallet. Big red flag.

Ill-Assist-5246

So, what you are basically saying is, "If you cannot produce the exact answer to how Bitcoin is going to tackle the Quantum Computing conundrum RIGHT NOW, then that means Bitcoin will fail." So, let's think this through, shall we? As Quantum Computing develops the ENTIRE WORLD will be at risk (NOT just Bitcoin). Bank accounts, Investment accounts, NSA databases, your dog's PetSmar account - pretty much everything. To presume that "everything else will find a solution, but Bitcoin will be left behind" is pretty much ridiculous - after all, Bitcoin is a crytographic algorithm and as the "answers" to more secure cryptography (that can confront Quantum Computing) emerge, Bitcoin will also evolve. Banks are centralized, but NOT over the ENTIRE world. There's the Fed (in the USA), the European Bank, the Bank of Japan, etc.... They are NOT united in how they approach things, their policy or ever their goals. According to you, these banks will all upgrade easily. Seriously? BRICS would like to see the US$ replaced. How exactly are they going to suddenly "unite" and "upgrade". It is far easier for Bitcoin to "upgrade". Bitcoin is ALREADY a world-wide protocol. In only 15 years it has "united" people throughout the world on accepting the Bitcoin protocol as the mechanism to store and transfer value - spanning across nations and languges. Good luck getting the countries of the world to unite on their banking in any way even close to that! Your argument reminds me of the Y2K panic ("because the computers of the world cannot handle the Jan. 1, 2000 calendar date, every computer in the world will shut down and cease to function at midnight). The world started talking about this "event" years in advance. There were plenty of nay-sayers. They told us "the world would end as we know it." Businesses and individuals paid billions (or maybe trillions?) of dollars to pay people to upgrade their computers for this perceived technology crisis. In the end Jan 1, 2000 came and went and the world did NOT shut down. Humankind and technology "found a solution" and no one even talks about this anymore. It's the same thing with Quantum Computer (or any new/improving technology). We adapt and move on. Bitcoin will be no different. So stop being a "nervous Nelly". When you really think about it, the real amazing thing about Bitcoin is that it DOES work and it works incredibly well and it's only 15 years old! The current monetary system is a mess and give a huge advantage to THAT centralized monetary system (at the expense of all the people who do NOT own that monetary system). Change is coming, no matter what. Might as well be ready for it.

zacguymarino

Mmmm, I'd argue as far as self verifying goes that coldcard was NOT different. The source was available for anybody... the license just didn't permit copying the code. I can understand a difference in *motivation*, but for anyone who ever truly believed that self verifying the code is the best way to trust a wallet, it was not different. I'd bet my left nut that more than half the people who say "just read the wallet code yourself", even on open source wallets, never read it themselves. Same for source available.

Ill-Assist-5246

Delusional? Hardly. Remember, the US government (incl. FBI, NSA, CIA, etc...) has to work with politicians and lawmakers to "make change happen." Bitcoin does NOT have to answer to them and, instead, "consensus" is how change occurs. You are also discounting the (very capitalistic) force of "profit motive". No node or miner is going to "just sit there" as Quantum Computing improves. Instead, they will adapt and fork (if necessary) to protect the network. Also, remember the Bitcoin Difficulty Adjustment (built into the protocol). As Quantum Computing improves, they could just augment the Difficulty Adjustment. Who knows - there could come a point in the future where Quantum Computers are the hardware used for Bitcoin Mining. Realistically, it sounds rather unlikely that the FBI, CIA, banks and governments will all "somehow" evade being hacked by the future capabilities of Quantum Computing, while Bitcoin just "sits there" and is demolished. Bitcoin has a rich history of adaptability with a strong tech community behind it. It's going to adapt and it's going to do so easily and readily - if for no other reason than it can. If you really stop and think about it, it is far more likely that Quantum Computing will lead to theft from banks (which ALL have online components) before it steals your Bitcoin. In fact, it would NOT surprise me if the banking community looks to the Bitcoin community to solve its own concerns about Quantum Computing.

Hitching-galaxy

No, it is because if you leave philanthropy to the very rich then a) only some rich will do it (and therefore most just keep their riches), 2) they will say they can’t pay more to their employees because of their charity work and 3) it means only the fancy of the rich get the money. It is NOT anti-capitalist to expect governments to make sure ALL of society is properly looked after - it can do that as well as ensuring the market prevails. The issue is when the very rich get their ideals into government, either through lobbying or other skullduggery.

TheresNoSecondBest

>What are some tips for determining when to sell my bitcoin? **No Neo. When you're ready, you won't have to.** Don't worry, mate. You'll understand it later. >What is the best platform for Australian investors? IIRC, there used to be Amber. If you can get Strike, even better. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

WPMO

Man, I was hoping this guy would turn out alright. I was really hoping that he would make the meme coin as a joke, and tell people "Hey, this is NOT going to be a good way to make money so don't buy it".

ubermensch1001

He isn't the only one, there were several other posters on here that were arguing with me about this. This was a reply I made to another poster more or less arguing with me about the same thing pertaining to buying ETH vs. ADA right now. "Let's say we go into 2027; the market is starting to get into a bullish environment and BTC is trading at 90k+. Let's say ETH at this point is trading at 4k, so a little over a 50% move from here. What do you think would happen with the rest of the alts? In this environment, do you see ADA at best matching ETH's performance by only being at 30 cents? Very short term price action is impossible to predict and pointless. For instance, in the fall of 2024 ADA was trading around 35 cents while ETH was at a similar price to where we are currently, about $2400. After the 2024 election hype ADA traded as high as $1.30 while ETH peaked at about 4k. I'll use XLM as an example from that same time period. Right before the election it was trading around 10 cents and then climbed above 50 cents at it's peak, so a 5x. A weak example would be LTC, it was around $65 and peaked at a little over $100 in this same time period. Another one is Bcash, both of these had very little price movement for years leading up to this, at least relative to the rest of the alts out there. The whole point is that when we do get bullish phases with alts, ETH leads and many of the alts with smaller market caps will OUTPERFORM it. IF someone were looking to do this, they need to be able to identify the correct time to be buying. I'm not saying people should do this, the point is that when ETH pops hard relative to BTC the broader alt coin market follows along even stronger. It has nothing to do with fundamentals of the coin lol. If you aren't aware, virtually all alts, including ETH, are primarily driven by hype and speculation. Picking the horse that runs the fastest is honestly going to come down to luck. What is NOT luck is identifying when these alts are low and where they could be making large gains for profit. What you are seeing now is NOT a bullish phase in the market, it's a bear market rally. This is not the same as the Q1 2024 ETF pump, the Q4 election pump or the spring 2021 alt season. When this occurs again, and it will, you will see what I'm describing here play out."

Marlon-Brandy

You didn't invest, you gambled. Crypto is NOT an investment, it's gambling, some of us win, most of us lose. Never gamble more than you can afford. As for your questions, yes it's completely normal. Thousands of coins and "projects" have died, rugpulls, lack of interest and so on.

ubermensch1001

Bro, I'm talking about right here and right fucking now with ADA. The guy has these coins locked in at the time we are writing on here. Let's say we go into 2027; the market is starting to get into a bullish environment and BTC is trading at 90k+. Let's say ETH at this point is trading at 4k, so a little over a 50% move from here. What do you think would happen with the rest of the alts? In this environment, do you see ADA at best matching ETH's performance by only being at 30 cents? Very short term price action is impossible to predict and pointless. For instance, in the fall of 2024 ADA was trading around 35 cents while ETH was at a similar price to where we are currently, about $2400. After the 2024 election hype ADA traded as high as $1.30 while ETH peaked at about 4k. I'll use XLM as an example from that same time period. Right before the election it was trading around 10 cents and then climbed above 50 cents at it's peak, so a 5x. A weak example would be LTC, it was around $65 and peaked at a little over $100 in this same time period. Another one is Bcash, both of these had very little price movement for years leading up to this, at least relative to the rest of the alts out there. The whole point is that when we do get bullish phases with alts, ETH leads and many of the alts with smaller market caps will OUTPERFORM it. IF someone were looking to do this, they need to be able to identify the correct time to be buying. I'm not saying people should do this, the point is that when ETH pops hard relative to BTC the broader alt coin market follows along even stronger. It has nothing to do with fundamentals of the coin lol. If you aren't aware, virtually all alts, including ETH, are primarily driven by hype and speculation. Picking the horse that runs the fastest is honestly going to come down to luck. What is NOT luck is identifying when these alts are low and where they could be making large gains for profit.

Ok-Courage-5115

Keep in mind those companies will NEVER send you e-mails with clickable links!! If they have a reason for anything like that, it will be ALWAYS done via buttons on *their own apps,* NOT A BLOODY WEB SITE!!

FrugalityPays

Is that NOT on you shopping list!? Push, I really don’t understand the poors….

jimmytug

Good question to as free AI LLM. The answer is NOT practical now for any destination. That's pretty obvious yea? Maybe in the future if stable coins or a fast transaction layer 1 or layer 2 chain has widespread adoption competing with Visa or Mastercard.

Radiant-Concern6391

I’m all for crypto doing well. This is NOT a reason to celebrate as it continues with a narrative left leaning politicians emphasize that crypto is for illegal activity and has no real value. We should never celebrate when something is used illegally as this will certainly result in long term apprehension and less use

oneawesomewave

Can only recommend NOT to buy unless you understand more of the technology. I don't see 2026 as a good point of entry for you. You will feel less insecure about the hacks as well once you understand more.

Ill-Assist-5246

Or... it shows what those foolish people do. Those who are trying to "get rich quick" with Bitcoin are (typically) the first ones to cash out when Bitcoin drops in price. They will, invariably, lose more than they gain. But, do NOT confuse their foolishness with "Bitcoin being a dud." Bitcoin is indeed a success. Bitcoin shows us the way to the future of money - where governments and banks do NOT dictate how we save/spend and the individual who saved and owns the money is the one who controls/decides what to do with that money. Has it every made sense that you keep your money in the bank and the bank earns 7% on YOUR MONEY?!?!?

Ill-Assist-5246

Since you asked... My "investments" include stocks, bonds, REITS, etc.... As you might imagine, the intent of my investments is to "INCREASE my purchasing power" and, thus, I expect it to EXCEED inflation (not always that easy these days). Like any investment, I weigh this risks vs. the returns - maintaining a healthy balance, keep a portfolio of diverse assets and use dollar-cost-averaging when entering/exiting the market. I do NOT consider Bitcoin an "investment." I consider Bitcoin as "the place I am parking my Savings to HOLD on to its purchasing power." If 5 Bitcoins buy a house in 2026, then I expect 5 Bitcoins to be able to buy a house in 2050. Could/will Bitcoin exceed this function and INCREASE its purchasing power? Yes, it probably will (because of increased acceptance/adoption), but that is NOT my intent when owning Bitcoin.

Ill-Assist-5246

So, "converting" between Bitcoin and a fiat currency is something that occurs all the time (just as converting between one fiat and another fiat or between a fiat and gold, etc...). "Paying taxes in fiat" does NOT give fiat currency value (it does create an "excuse" to require currency conversion). In the history of humankind EVERY fiat currency has collapsed and gone to zero. The current fiat currencies of the world are not an exception (it just has not happened for them yet). Fiat currency does NOT have value "because you have to pay taxes in that fiat." If that were true, then we would NOT see hyperinflation (such as in Argentina, Turkey, etc...). The reason fiat currencies collapse is because of excessive printing/debasement, which ALWAYS occurs. Now, all of a sudden, the world has a new form of money (Bitcoin) that governments CANNOT debase and that is more easily transported/divided than Gold. Bitcoin solves the problems of the past and it puts the "power" of money in the hands of those whose money it is (rather than the banks). It may not be a solution that governments and banks are thrilled about, but they cannot beat this (because it is a logical improvement to the current system). This reminds me of taxi cabs and Uber. In the not too distant past, taxi cabs dominated the "buy-a-ride" market. Uber surfaced as a logical and cheaper alternative. Local city governments and taxi unions fought Uber and tried to ban/block their services. They lost. Why? Because Uber was a better service that was cheaper and THE PEOPLE wanted it. Sure, the government could have made us use taxi cabs at gunpoint, but that method of government does not work particularly well. In the end, Uber won, just as Bitcoin will win. You can't stop a logical/better alternative that the people want... unless you are willing to point a gun at them ... and if you do, you are only in power as long as you continue to have those guns.

Remarkable-Tax6464

You claim LTC and BTC don't compete because Bitcoin is a store of value and Litecoin is a payment network. But BTC entire premise is that **value accrues to scarcity, network effects, and security guarantees, NOT transactional convenience**

xaviemb

>why is it so correlated with the stock market Huh? The last 11 months Bitcoin has been in a bear market spending most of the last 9 months relatively close to its 52 week low. While markets have all been pushing ATH higher and higher during that period. That's not correlation. If you're asking about the micro movements of Bitcoin dipping when markets dump, or vice versa... that's a result of a growing supply shock. Lack of liquidity and 4% of Bitcoin being in ETFs now, mean that sizable movement from markets that are sloshing money from large marco stuff can appear in short term to relate to Bitcoin... but when the other 95% of Bitcoin sees this, they buy that dip, and vice versa, because the macro (big picture) is that Bitcoin is very much NOT moving like the stock market on its longer trend. Its scarcity dictates that. Stock market is speculation. Bitcoin is escape from inflation (debasement)

Hour_Flounder1405

that's not the complete story. in my backyard, I have a hybrid fig tree. it's a one of a kind. It tastes like maple syrup, vanilla and rich sweet cherry. I'm not kidding. I don't know how it happened, but it's something like a miracle. But the thing is, it's just ONE TREE. No one else knows about it. No one but me knows anything about it \*until now\*. There is no doubt in my mind that this tree could be sold for millions and millions. but then, think about that for a few minutes. a. it's scarce and limited...but currently is has no store of value...none. No one knows about it. b. The minute it becomes known, more to the point, the minute that others can start cloning it...it is not longer scarce.. But could it become valuable? probably. likely. But over time, would it hold the same level of interest and command such a high price? probably not. Especially if ANYONE COULD BUY IT. sure it would be popular, but the value would go down. c. What is really the difference between bitcoin and my delish fig tree? perceived valued? that producing a single fig isn't going to cost me approximately 80,000$USD in energy and infrastructure costs? I can continue to clone the fig tree and no one can stop me or anyone else. Bitcoin does have a "manifest" that agrees to limit the total bitcoin at 21 millions, with 20 + million already minted, and with the last 1 million to be minted/mined between now and year 2040. Whereas I can own fractional amounts of bitcoin, no one buys 1/50th of a fig. I can actually trade a couple of pounds of these figs for lots of things...shrimp, beef. Heck I can even set up at farmers market and sell the figs. All by myself...and no one cares. No one is telling me what price I can or cannot sell or buy them, what taxes or not I should assign and I get the benefit of seeing a smile on someone's face when I watch them eat one of these incredible figs. if it's not clear...we are not really dealing in reality with bitcoin. at every part of the narrative, it fails to completely satisfy the very definitions that we pretend can be assigned to it. it is NOT a store of value. Nor is it deflationary. Any price chart should inform you of this and some basic understanding about the costs of producing and mining and yes, storing them. Those costs exceed the price of bitcoin and it's likely to be the same in the future. It becomes more costly to produce them. And because you can buy the fractionally...and because the "market" that influencing the price is more about speculation than anything fundamental like value. it's nothing more than a giant casino game. with odds far lower that you will find a return that even covers the cost of your time and the inflationary factor of fiat. because remember, when you do "win", what happens then? you of course convert it to some future fiat currency. And at that point in time, your fiat currency will have dramatically dropped in purchasing power. say hello to inflation while you wince from that reality. it's best to think about bitcoin with a clear understanding about what to expect. Most people don't understand bitcoin because well, it really doesn't make sense. God Bless America

mymongoose

This 100% In the throes of a 2017/2021 style alt season you can actually get away with it, but any other time you’ll get rekt hard Always remember there’s another opportunity around the corner - never take the mindset of “I missed it so I need to get in” - yeah you missed it, that means you DO NOT want to get it 😂 You’ll miss things all the time - you’ll sell too early, buy too late, hold too long etc - these will happen all the time - you need to push that shit out of your head Don’t set a portfolio target - don’t say “I’ll sell at $100k or $1m” etc - just set reasonable levels to sell - 50% 2x whatever makes sense for the risk level of the assets you’re buying Ultimately if you bought lower and sold higher you succeeded - don’t second guess yourself

ChuckDeBongo

The United States. Do you see why the rest of the world hates you right? You had the choice between an intelligent lady with a ton of experience in government and a failed steak salesman who is LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO RUN A CHARITY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK BECAUSE HE STOLE FROM A CHARITY FOR CHILDREN WITH CANCER! And you chose the latter,. Life in the world could have been so much better…

thinkingperson

Reminds me of all the warning labels on plastic wrappers that comes with devices ... "Warning: May suffocate" or "Warning: DO NOT CONSUME". The site didn't even try to use a url like [bitrefillme.com](http://bitrefillme.com) or something. 😅 >there's noway to tell it's a fake website unless you look at the url (which I figured out too late). It's like randomly hopping onto a car because ... it looks like a car and not checking the carplate for uber.

MrMoo151515

Just start DCA’ing asap. Literally not one person on the planet knows where we’re going from here. There’s a lot of indicators to predict certain things, but nothing is for certain. The deeper into Bitcoin you get the more you’ll understand just start dollar cost averaging in and continue to do so for 4-5 years and you’ll just be asking yourself why you didn’t start sooner. Do NOT have a short time horizon. Expect huge gains and huge dips all in the same week, and learn to be comfortable with that.

WayfareAndWanderlust

PLZ SIR DO NOT REDEEM DO NOT REDEEM That’s all I’m reading Get a job you dork

JameelaJameel

My dad bought BTC at 96k (i told him NOT to). Its at 80k He still shares these kinda posts with me. Lols

Western_Ad4507

Is REQ one of the most overlooked payment projects in crypto right now? I've been digging into Request Network (REQ) because the current valuation caught my attention. REQ is currently trading around $0.055–$0.057, with a market cap of roughly $45M. That alone doesn't make it interesting. What does interest me is what is actually being built around it. Some numbers I found: • Request Network says it has processed $2B+ in payment volume • The protocol claims access to roughly 95% of global stablecoin supply • Request Finance says it serves 1,500+ finance teams • Request Finance says it has processed $1B+ and operates across 190+ countries • The ecosystem has continued shipping in 2026 rather than simply sitting on an old 2017 narrative • Recent developments include cross-chain mass payouts, wallet screening, TRON support and a Safe integration for enterprise multisig payments And yet… REQ has a market cap of only around $45M. That is what made me stop and look closer. The interesting part Request is positioning itself around something I think could become much bigger: stablecoin payments for businesses. Instead of trying to make crypto itself the product, the infrastructure is increasingly about: → receiving stablecoins → paying suppliers → payroll → mass payouts → cross-chain payments → invoices → accounting/reconciliation → moving money globally That's a potentially huge market. The protocol currently charges a 0.9% transaction fee, capped at $500 per payment, and the network is explicitly positioning itself as non-custodial payment infrastructure. Now Reddit itself doesn't seem particularly excited about REQ right now. Which could either mean: A) the market correctly doesn't care B) this is still extremely under-the-radar. Let's put the market caps into perspective With roughly 797M REQ circulating: $0.10 → ~$80M market cap $0.25 → ~$200M $0.50 → ~$400M $1.00 → ~$800M $2.00 → ~$1.6B $5.00 → ~$4B I'm NOT saying $5 is realistic. In fact, I think $5 would require an extreme crypto bull market + major REQ adoption + significant speculative attention. But a move from ~$45M to $200–400M market cap doesn't strike me as completely crazy if the stablecoin payment narrative really takes off. The interesting question is therefore not: "Can REQ go 20x?" It's: "Why is a payment protocol with real usage and billions in processed volume valued at only ~$45M?" Does the market simply hasn't noticed yet? I'm genuinely curious what people who have followed REQ for years think. What am I missing?

Nathaniel_Sparky500

Just invest whatever you can afford to lose in a portfolio of the major coins, using a trusted wallet/exchange, which is what it sounds like you are doing. DO NOT: Cchase millions from a meme coin Listen to anyone who DMs you Don't use shady platforms or fall for one of the million "investment" scams out there. r/cryptoscams

Ill-Assist-5246

The government will NOT have a choice. It was only a few years ago when the government essentially said, "NO! You cannot trade Bitcoin on an exchange". Then they said, "NO! You cannot have Bitcoin ETFs." Next they said, "NO! Banks CANNOT own Bitcoin." China made Bitcoin illegal, that didn't work out or them. Each and every time, governments lost these battles. Why? Because, when people (at large) CHOOSE to keep their savings in Bitcoin, NO government can stop them because the Blockchain CANNOT be controlled). Eventually, the governments (and their central banks) gave-in and said, "If we CANNOT beat Bitcoin into submission, we MUST ensure that we position ourselves to be part of that system - and NOT get locked out in the cold." And THAT is exactly what is happening. Virtually all major banks and governments now hold Bitcoin. Bankers (like Jamie Diamond) have eaten their words, "As long as I am CEO of JP Morgan, you will be fired if you offer Bitcoin to our customers." The resistance to Bitcoin is still there, but it is a losing battle because "THE PEOPLE" are choosing Bitcoin and there are too many people and no mechanism for the government to adequately stop this choice (they have/are and, likely, will continue to try). The "gift" that Satoshi let for us is a system of money that does NOT allow the governments/banks to control OUR money. Instead, with Bitcoin, no one/everyone controls your money. The banks and governments HATE this, but they are smart enough to realize that they are losing and that they had better at least be part of it for fear of being completely irrelevant. That is why banks are now offering Bitcoin-collateralized loans. The banks need to ensure that they have a role in the future of money.

Acrobatic_Friend_275

Highly recommend NOT splitting a seed phrase. Best to distribute the hardware devices across 2 separate secure locations (like a vault). And then give 2 trusted people (lawyer, friend, family) a key each. Make sure to backup the coordinator file in a few places and leave instructions. That way, you have redundancies aplenty and no access while alive but after you're gone. Bingo

Ill-Blacksmith3260

Did you not have someone telling you to DO NOT TRUST ANYONE ON HERE! Did you do any studying on crypto? Like how it works? Or what it is used for? Or how it is used? It's you're own fault for diving into something headfirst without research. So many people here have no idea what crypto is, they think it is an investment strategy when it's not, crypto is a transaction arbitrator. A simple tip that can help you with anything, when you are intrested in something new, do some research, take at least a month and learn everything you can about whatever it is you are intrested in, especially if it involves money, investments or your wellbeing.

MichaelHooper

There are countless people who have fallen for these crypto scams, including the fattening the pig scam. I know a man who took an anonymous phone call about a crypto opportunity. He put some money in and watched it grow. He kept putting money in, he wanted to take out profits but the crypto people said he needed to put in 180,000 in his "margin reserve." He stupidly fell for this, they wanted him to put in $450,000. I told him don't do it. He quit after losing $180K. All started with anonymous caller. I do NOT take a single anonymous call. None.

TheGDC33

I would to see your original post. I have to assume and bieve that at least one redditor warned you in the comments NOT to answer DMs or anything like that

Nano_is_the_way_XNO

Until the day they rug all customers in the name of “national security” or something. All Exchanges are centralized and should NOT be a part of the crypto economy. There is a reason why Decentralized Layer 1s are the core of crypto. Satoshi never mentioned having a centralized government honeypot that KYCs your every move as part of the infrastructure. Ya’ll lost the plot.

Economy-Industry-622

You have lots to learn. Never ever feel bad or stupid if you take profit. Only time that you should feel stupid is when you NOT take profit

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Post is by: XRPresso_io and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: http://XRPresso.io There’s a lot of talk in crypto about moving value. Payments, settlement, tokenization, ownership, liquidity. But if crypto is going to support a real economy, there’s another problem we have to solve: **How do two people who don’t know each other decide whether they’re comfortable doing business together?** That’s something we’ve been thinking about a lot while building XRPresso. We already had pieces of a trust system spread throughout the marketplace — buyer/seller reviews, marketplace reputation, Linked X accounts, activity history, NFT provenance and collection verification, business reviews, rights attestations for Music, and XRPL-native seller credentials. We’ve now started bringing those pieces together into a public **XRPresso Trust Center**. The idea is deliberately **not** to create one magical “Trust Score.” If I’m buying a physical item, I might care about the seller’s reviews and completed sales. If I’m hiring someone for a service, I probably care about their reviews and completed service engagements. If I’m collecting an NFT, provenance and collection verification may matter much more. If I’m buying music, artist identity and rights attestation are different signals again. Those things shouldn’t all be mashed together and presented as if they mean the same thing. So XRPresso keeps them separate and gives the user the information to make their own decision. **What’s live** The Trust Center is tied to your **public XRPresso seller identity**, not your XRPL payment address. That was important to us. XRPresso already separates public marketplace identity from settlement identity. Your profile and reputation can be visible publicly without automatically turning your XRPL address into your public identity. The wallet is still the login and money path. When a transaction actually requires payment or settlement, the necessary counterparty gets the information required to complete it. We didn’t want adding reputation to undo that privacy model. The Trust Center can now surface things like: \- Marketplace rating and reviews \- Completed physical sales \-Completed service engagements \-Optional marketplace activity \-Linked X identity \-XLS-70 Verified Seller credentials \-Relevant NFT provenance/verification signals \-Artist and rights-attestation signals where appropriate And importantly, we try to label them for what they actually are. **Linked X** does not mean identity verified. **Rights Attested** does not mean Verified Artist. **NFT provenance** does not mean the seller is trustworthy. And an XRPL credential is a particular claim — not a blanket declaration that someone should be trusted. **XRPL Credentials are particularly interesting** XRPresso already uses XLS-70 credential infrastructure. An accepted seller credential can now be projected into the public Trust Center as something like: **Verified Seller** *Credential issued by XRPresso* But the public Trust surface doesn’t need to expose the underlying settlement wallet, credential Subject, transaction hash, or an explorer link to prove it. The server can verify the ledger state and present the relevant claim. That creates an interesting model: **- The ledger provides verification.** **- The marketplace provides reputation.** **- The user keeps custody.** **- What we deliberately did NOT build** No mandatory KYC. No universal Trust Score. No chat surveillance. No custody requirement. No system where holding CREMA somehow gives XRPresso governance over your assets. And no “we hold your keys, therefore trust us.” XRPresso remains non-custodial. The Trust Center is really about organizing the signals that already exist and putting them in front of users when they’re making a commerce decision. And I think this connects to a bigger question for crypto: **What is value if people don’t trust each other enough to exchange it?** The XRP Ledger gives us excellent rails for moving value. But a functioning economy also needs products, services, creators, merchants, reputation, fulfillment and enough trust for two strangers to actually transact. That’s the part we’re trying to build around the ledger with XRPresso. Products. Services. NFTs. Music. Live commerce. Payments. Reputation. And now a more deliberate trust layer tying them together. **- Identity without unnecessary exposure.** **- Reputation without custody.** **- Credentials without mandatory KYC.** **Trust based on signals rather than blind faith in the platform.** I’d genuinely be interested in the community’s view: **When you transact with someone you don’t know on-chain, what trust signals actually matter to you?** And what would you *not* want a marketplace using as a measure of trust? [XRPresso.io](http://xrpresso.io/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

FocusFlukeGyro

Yes, with the low hitting October 5th. I thought we were in agreement on this. /s (NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE)

JurassicP00P

How delusional can you be? Lol zero critical thinking. DON JR IS NOT THE PRESIDENT, HES NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL YOURE AN IDIOT

goldvenetianmask

They didn’t access a computer or device. They never “hacked” the wallet. They didn’t bypass authentication. It wasn’t theft because it wasn’t done through an exchange. It’s not stolen. I don’t know about the money laundering piece. Those state laws apply to bitcoins in exchanges, accessed through exchanges. This was not that. This was NOT a computer crime. They DID NOT hack the wallets themselves or the computers of the people that lost bitcoin. This was not malware or a supply chain attack.

goldvenetianmask

it’s literally different from a legal AND technological standpoint. If he had for example stolen accounts from an exchange, then the exchange has user agreements and can assert the authenticity of the interaction. Just like someone gaining access to your bank account via the bank portal. On chain password guesses are NOT THAT. This guy simply instructed the network to move the coins. There was no login screen, there is no someone attesting to the authenticity of the transfer, there was no contract to violate. STEALING from an exchange is different than USING bitcoin’s distributed ledger, which is why I can’t find a law the “thief” actually broke.

doublefistedwhoppers

Id connect the trezor with a DATA CABLE!!!@ ITS GOTYA BE A DATA CABLE ANF NOT JUST A CHATGING CABLE RIGHT??!??@?@?@@ YEAH MAN I DID THAT CONNECT TREZOR TO PHONE ENTER PIN OPEN APP HIT SEND YAY DONE

BaadMike

Your email should provide you the address where you moved your coins. Copy that address and check on any reputable blockchain explorer to see if the balance is correct. Now if you lost your wallet or access to your wallet there's not much you can do. If you have your 12 or 24 words, enter them in a hardware wallet (NOT in any website) and see if you can access the coins with the hardware wallet. Do not answer DM's. They are all scammers.

EthanDavis63

Rule #1: Stay solvent. Rule #2: Do NOT sell before 2029 regardless of the noise. Welcome to the club, stack what you can!"

MyWifeCrazy

Diminishing returns are rife here. It's seems crazy to say but unless bitcoin gets a real use case, it may not even break $300k until the mid 40s if ever. Unless the current usage for BTC changes from just being this investment and hope dump for many people, it will stall and stay stalled until it starts to heavily decline in value. I personally believe there are way to many ways for BTC to drop to zero before it gets even a sniff of a chance to reach $1m. I'd prefer it to reach $1m as I do own some, but I just do NOT see that happening at all.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

rgnet1

I think you're missing a concept here. Technically, when money is "printed", what's really happening is the Federal Reserve (which is NOT the government!) is buying something from someone. Most often, they are buying Treasuries. Treasuries are government debt. Those are literally the government saying "I need money - will you give it to me and I'll pay it back with interest." The Fed is NOT allowed to buy Treasuries directly from the government. This is kind of the backbone of western civilization's free, open market. The market lends money to government via regular treasury auctions - it can be anyone! Banks, companies, and even individuals. Since the open market is buying Treasuries, no one in their right mind would loan money to the government and not get interest back on it (or to anyone unless you're being charitable to a family/friend). So when you ask, "why do they need to borrow it", the answer is simply, "because a free market would never just give money away for no reason." All fiat outside of places like North Korea is based on this system. That's why the US dollar can be used to buy goods from all over the world and North Korean won can't buy shit.

gwillen

There is a procedure like this that can work, as long as you're _very_ careful to do every step correctly. See the end of my comment for some thoughts about the risks involved. You should wait for the initial move to be confirmed to a good depth on the bitcoin chain, and then verify that the initial UTXOs on the bitcoin chain are all spent, before you "respend" them to a different address on the fork. It might take multiple attempts, since your initial move could be valid on both chains. You could deliberately put oversized data into your initial move transaction, to make it invalid on the fork, but it will be a pain to construct that and it might be hard to get it mined for standardness reasons. Another option could be to construct two different transactions, both moving the same coin to different addresses, both still under your control, and race them across the two chains. Then wait for both to fully settle and be deeply confirmed. All of these procedures, because they involve manually constructing transactions, carry a pretty extreme risk of fucking them up in ways that cause loss of your coins. So I generally take the position that they aren't worth attempting unless the value of the fork ends up being very substantial. (In the US, there can be tax consequences of receiving something of value that you _could_ claim, even if you don't. I believe that forks like this should NOT be counted as "constructively received" in this way, because of the extreme risks that can be involved in claiming them, which I think makes it too dangerous to recommend claiming low-value forks as a general practice. The lawyers don't listen to me, though. 😅)

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TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Hesychios

The bank is required to report transactions of $10k or more, and they are required to NOT tell you they are reporting it. $2,000 once is bullshit. No justification for giving the customer the third degree.

Huge-Consequence1700

From the look of it, I would say Iit's a copycat, so NOT a original Satoshi N. I also spoke with the bitcoin Graphics Department Corp and they said: Nope. Not from us, because we normally use this tilted orange one 🤷‍♂️.

veskald

The switching layer is the wrong picture. You dont need a bot that picks strategies - you need strategies that each know when NOT to trade. The regime filter lives inside each strategy: a trend rule that stays silent in chop, a range rule that stays silent in trend. Build 2 or N of those, run them together and check the losses/drawdown correlation between them - if its low, the portfolio curve is smoother than any single strategy. The portfolio IS the dynamic bot, no picker on top. And the order still matters: first ONE rule that survives an honest test with fees and funding. The "which conditions does it work in" question comes up during that test anyway - you will see it in the results.

Sus198

Honestly, I can't tell if you are actually joking or not. If you are not joking, then you don't seem to understand the basics of economics. Buyer and seller trust are indispensable elements - definitely. Without trust you have nothing. But those are NOT the ONLY elements that determine the price because an asset can still lose value in time if it has unlimited supply. Bitcoin's value lies in the fact that it has limited supply and therefore it is not an inflationary asset. Say for example a rare painting - there is a seller and a bunch of buyers. The seller can set the price higher because the painting is rare and there is only a limited supply. The will of the buyers and the limited supply will drive the price higher. I can't waste anymore time with you. Go read a book and follow through.

itchy_buthole

Boomers and ai do NOT mix

NiagaraBTC

The ColdCard incident WAS very bad major news. But it did NOT cause a dip. There simply were no people who felt it was a reason to sell.

Profil3r

Sure. Feel free to reach out with any questions. Do NOT accept any help from DMs promising to invest for you. Do this by yourself both for safety and to learn.

Ninjanoel

you are using the wrong word, the word isn't consensus, in cryptocurrencies consensus is an ON-CHAIN THING, do NOT use the word consensus for anything else otherwise you just misusing the jargon. Please reword else honestly I think you are completely confused. Yes humans can reach a consensus but that's not what anyone is talking about when talking about cryptocurrency.

deeneendo

not your keys, not your coins. If you want to hold, get electrum or cakewallet (or similar, but timeproven) and write down you secret words, do NOT enter them on an electronic device or take a photograph! transfer the BTC you bought to the address you created for yourself in your wallet, then you can hold indefinitely and as long as the secret words are kept safe, you will be the keeper and not some shady business that can fold over night.

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Astropin

Do NOT wait for a big pullback.

Cultural_Treacle8464

99.9% of merchants and shops still do NOT accept or even know what crypto is, maybe they will never will. visa crypto-cards are just a workaround, not a win. real crypto payments will become mainstream when politicians and central bankers will decide to allow them, and that is probably never. we never had a chance to win, the game is rigged. but at least we have some workaround

mattimeoo

Came here to say this.  DO NOT TRUST OR USE THE SITE OP LISTED!!!

Peterb88

\# I strongly advice everyone to NOT use this website. Your funds can be stolen That is unless you’re skilled enough to run this in a controlled offline environment like tails and completely vetted the source code for correct entropy. And when you are that skilled, you don’t need this website. The site is probably made with good intentions, but just don’t do it.

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mrjune2040

Past performance is not a predictor of future performance. The idiots (YouTubers) selling a dream of simplistic predictable cycles haven’t been in financial markets long enough to understand that a myriad of macro economic factors can affect all markets in unpredictable ways. Bitcoin isn’t special in that regard, it just has way less historical data to draw from- ie barely 10 years of meaningful (NOT the fucking BTC-e/MtGox years) of actual high volume trading.

Powerful-Chemist888

4x long??? Bruh NO. YOU DO THIS AT A BOTTOM NOT ON THE RISE

MinimalistMindset35

I buy all the way down. See the problem with alot of y’all is you never take the time to shift your mindset and so you view Bitcoin as a risk asset while I view it as a savings account. I got into Bitcoin at 33k. I watched Bitcoin go from 33k to 16k to 69k to 125k to 80k. Fiat price does NOT matter. Fiat price tells you how much people understand Bitcoin. When you finally start to truly understand Bitcoin you will understand that you buy when Bitcoin crashes because it will always rebound because of its foundational qualities

AquarianAge144

Bro. Thats just a lie. We have literally dropped 50% from 126k To 63k and now rebounding to 78k Which is only a 30% increase after a 50% drop.... It was not because of Saylor. Saylor is hurting Crypto these days 🤣 His MSTR stock completed inflated everything and he is literally recycling the gains through BTC. He is not a Hero. STOP CONNECTING BTC TO AN IDOL BITCOIN IS SATOSHIS BEAST. NOT MICHAEL SAYLORS. AND IT OBEYS NOBODY.

Queasy-Ride4291

Lol, this is, in fact, NOT why Bitcoin exists 😆

PatternAgainstUsers

Stop listening to "people". Listen to good traders with a track record who can explain their argument if you want to learn. When you say the word: "people" what that tells me is you are seeking safety in the opinions of the crowd (the safe, mainstream opinion). That is exactly what makes people lose in trading; prioritizing emotional security over alpha. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about, I've heard the same "it will definitely bottom in October" and "it will go to 40K first" for the past year non-stop The crowd COULD be right on that, but the probability is extremely low that they will be, due to positioning math... unless they intend to trade much differently than they speak, and it was all some kind of social engineering ruse. The way BTC is trading right now, IF we get a retracement to prior fair value (64K area), you SHOULD expect it to reject very hard and continue upwards from there if that was indeed a durable low and attracted bids. Particularly because of the clean squeeze that broke that range of value. Anything can happen, I can't predict exact lows and no one can... just describing what the auction would be expected to do. That said, we do NOT have to return to 64K. If we get a retracement to \~69K (approximately the current VAL of the impulse we're undergoing), or thereabouts you could also see passive bids creating a higher low than expected. The higher that low is the more bullish this move is, assuming you see absorption on heavy volume and a rapid clean bullish impulse. You don't get signals this clean very often, but the process of the last bearish impulse barely creating any lower value at all relative to the prior February range, plus weekly RSI divergence at the lows, plus CLEAR seller exhaustion, plus a short-squeeze catalyst after a period of historically low volatility, and this kind of confirmation with the impulse move not being given back rapidly over the past week... it's hard to ask for more validation that the bull cycle has begun - AT THE POINT OF THE TURN. People saying "I'll believe it when we create fair value above 76K etc. - that's a fair point to confirm the thesis... but as for turn-calling, that's late.

OB-Strat

Wrong it was no where near peak hype in 2025, your crazy. Macro was also bad, fed was QT which is NOT good for BTC.

OB-Strat

Guys you don’t know how to read charts… we are NOT in a bull market until AT LEAST we close above previous weekly high at 83k. That is step 1. 40k is very much on the table, and this way of thinking it’s not possible is NOT how you want to view markets. Opinion and price action should be treated differently. People calling for lower in a bearish trend are correct, people calling for higher in bullish trend are correct. What I’m saying is we are STILL in a bearish trend so 40k is more likely than 100k. CURRENTLY which can change,

NewAdhesiveness7767

What for the san francisco gay sake are you talking about 😂😂😂😂 shittiest vehicles ever made. Italians ARE NOT engineers. You cant give them away if you wanted to here in europe . You dont know what are you talking about you must be american

IndependentSpeck

Oh but just a heads up, some HWW's do NOT have an option to use them in multisig, like the BF vault. Sorry I forgot to add that but it's here now a couple minutes later. Just research them before you buy so you don't make an expensive mistake

SoCallMeDeaconBlues1

It's still an assumption. You can argue all you want about what you THINK is going to happen, but no one can see into the future. It's NOT inevitable. But I'm arguing with a brick wall. I have a bunch of it too--- so don't think that I DON'T want it to go up, I do. I also believe that it will. I just think your argument is very.... maxi, and divorced from reality.

KateR_H0l1day

This is the biggest weekly gain since March 2023, but we all know the last low was December 2023. Consequently, I’m very cautious at this moment, I tend NOT to buy anything green

Hour_Flounder1405

[https://startupfortune.com/zondacryptos-second-ceo-has-vanished-after-its-bitcoin-reserves-evaporated/](https://startupfortune.com/zondacryptos-second-ceo-has-vanished-after-its-bitcoin-reserves-evaporated/) I can give you about 57 other examples. your confidence in "the system" isn't actually odd. Most people make the same assumptions. but when you really start thinking for yourself...actually testing these theories and promises of security, you find reality doesn't give two blockchains about your assumptions. btw...this is NOT a one off example. There are plenty..and most if not nearly all of them go unreported. small retail traders mostly. They don't necessarily get their seedphrase stolen, BUT BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY WAY TO POSITITIVELY ACCESS AND OWN THE COINS...ALL THE THINGS YOU JUST WROTE ARE COMPLETELY USELESS. one mistake...one error...there are no protections that cover the loss or transfer of the seedphrase. Everything else is inconsequential. All those things you wrote do not get your seedphrase back. remember what the issue is. Only in crypto is there a single point of failure about security and ownership proof of your money/tokens... that design and lack of actual real world practical backups to prove and to protect your funds is exceptionally stupid. yes, it is an engineering term. Single point of failure...lose the seedphrase and you lose it...and none of those other things matter. none of them. Stupid. and dangerous. watch what happens in post quantum realities. even the mention of a possible hack into the blockchain is going to cause a massive panic selloff. And this WILL happen...even if it turns out to be a hoax or exxagerated. and why would that be. Why would people panic because the underlying seedphrase is vulnerable? because intuitively, people actually understand this single point of failure. God Bless America

CryptoTradersChat

It's NOT finished going down yet, either!

B-Boy357

Let me try ’ve been buying Bitcoin & coding with blockchain since 2012. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I have several panes of glass. We are NOT in a stage of stable horizontal movement right now, and there will be several more BIG swings either up or down… so get ready! I still expect Bitcoin to pass $200k in the next 1-2 years, so act accordingly. See how I did that there

Careless_Product_792

I ASSUME SCAM, OR INSECURE SHIT. DO NOT GENERATE WALLETS IN STRANGE OFFLINE REPOS PEOPLE. UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND HOW TO AUDIT CODE. ASUMME A WEBPAGE IS A SCAM WITH WEAK ENTROPY OR VIBECODED STUFF THAT WILL FUCK YOU UP IF YOU ARE NOT SURE THAT WALLET GENERATION IS CORRECTX EVEN A TYPO IN THE BIP39 LIST CAN CREATE YOU A MESSED UP WALLET. Mods should ban this type of "good intentions" websites, so be warned if you generate a wallet with a website because OP seems "so friendly" and caring about community.