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Nano_is_the_way_XNO

Until the day they rug all customers in the name of “national security” or something. All Exchanges are centralized and should NOT be a part of the crypto economy. There is a reason why Decentralized Layer 1s are the core of crypto. Satoshi never mentioned having a centralized government honeypot that KYCs your every move as part of the infrastructure. Ya’ll lost the plot.

Economy-Industry-622

You have lots to learn. Never ever feel bad or stupid if you take profit. Only time that you should feel stupid is when you NOT take profit

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Post is by: XRPresso_io and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: http://XRPresso.io There’s a lot of talk in crypto about moving value. Payments, settlement, tokenization, ownership, liquidity. But if crypto is going to support a real economy, there’s another problem we have to solve: **How do two people who don’t know each other decide whether they’re comfortable doing business together?** That’s something we’ve been thinking about a lot while building XRPresso. We already had pieces of a trust system spread throughout the marketplace — buyer/seller reviews, marketplace reputation, Linked X accounts, activity history, NFT provenance and collection verification, business reviews, rights attestations for Music, and XRPL-native seller credentials. We’ve now started bringing those pieces together into a public **XRPresso Trust Center**. The idea is deliberately **not** to create one magical “Trust Score.” If I’m buying a physical item, I might care about the seller’s reviews and completed sales. If I’m hiring someone for a service, I probably care about their reviews and completed service engagements. If I’m collecting an NFT, provenance and collection verification may matter much more. If I’m buying music, artist identity and rights attestation are different signals again. Those things shouldn’t all be mashed together and presented as if they mean the same thing. So XRPresso keeps them separate and gives the user the information to make their own decision. **What’s live** The Trust Center is tied to your **public XRPresso seller identity**, not your XRPL payment address. That was important to us. XRPresso already separates public marketplace identity from settlement identity. Your profile and reputation can be visible publicly without automatically turning your XRPL address into your public identity. The wallet is still the login and money path. When a transaction actually requires payment or settlement, the necessary counterparty gets the information required to complete it. We didn’t want adding reputation to undo that privacy model. The Trust Center can now surface things like: \- Marketplace rating and reviews \- Completed physical sales \-Completed service engagements \-Optional marketplace activity \-Linked X identity \-XLS-70 Verified Seller credentials \-Relevant NFT provenance/verification signals \-Artist and rights-attestation signals where appropriate And importantly, we try to label them for what they actually are. **Linked X** does not mean identity verified. **Rights Attested** does not mean Verified Artist. **NFT provenance** does not mean the seller is trustworthy. And an XRPL credential is a particular claim — not a blanket declaration that someone should be trusted. **XRPL Credentials are particularly interesting** XRPresso already uses XLS-70 credential infrastructure. An accepted seller credential can now be projected into the public Trust Center as something like: **Verified Seller** *Credential issued by XRPresso* But the public Trust surface doesn’t need to expose the underlying settlement wallet, credential Subject, transaction hash, or an explorer link to prove it. The server can verify the ledger state and present the relevant claim. That creates an interesting model: **- The ledger provides verification.** **- The marketplace provides reputation.** **- The user keeps custody.** **- What we deliberately did NOT build** No mandatory KYC. No universal Trust Score. No chat surveillance. No custody requirement. No system where holding CREMA somehow gives XRPresso governance over your assets. And no “we hold your keys, therefore trust us.” XRPresso remains non-custodial. The Trust Center is really about organizing the signals that already exist and putting them in front of users when they’re making a commerce decision. And I think this connects to a bigger question for crypto: **What is value if people don’t trust each other enough to exchange it?** The XRP Ledger gives us excellent rails for moving value. But a functioning economy also needs products, services, creators, merchants, reputation, fulfillment and enough trust for two strangers to actually transact. That’s the part we’re trying to build around the ledger with XRPresso. Products. Services. NFTs. Music. Live commerce. Payments. Reputation. And now a more deliberate trust layer tying them together. **- Identity without unnecessary exposure.** **- Reputation without custody.** **- Credentials without mandatory KYC.** **Trust based on signals rather than blind faith in the platform.** I’d genuinely be interested in the community’s view: **When you transact with someone you don’t know on-chain, what trust signals actually matter to you?** And what would you *not* want a marketplace using as a measure of trust? [XRPresso.io](http://xrpresso.io/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

FocusFlukeGyro

Yes, with the low hitting October 5th. I thought we were in agreement on this. /s (NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE)

JurassicP00P

How delusional can you be? Lol zero critical thinking. DON JR IS NOT THE PRESIDENT, HES NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL YOURE AN IDIOT

goldvenetianmask

They didn’t access a computer or device. They never “hacked” the wallet. They didn’t bypass authentication. It wasn’t theft because it wasn’t done through an exchange. It’s not stolen. I don’t know about the money laundering piece. Those state laws apply to bitcoins in exchanges, accessed through exchanges. This was not that. This was NOT a computer crime. They DID NOT hack the wallets themselves or the computers of the people that lost bitcoin. This was not malware or a supply chain attack.

goldvenetianmask

it’s literally different from a legal AND technological standpoint. If he had for example stolen accounts from an exchange, then the exchange has user agreements and can assert the authenticity of the interaction. Just like someone gaining access to your bank account via the bank portal. On chain password guesses are NOT THAT. This guy simply instructed the network to move the coins. There was no login screen, there is no someone attesting to the authenticity of the transfer, there was no contract to violate. STEALING from an exchange is different than USING bitcoin’s distributed ledger, which is why I can’t find a law the “thief” actually broke.

doublefistedwhoppers

Id connect the trezor with a DATA CABLE!!!@ ITS GOTYA BE A DATA CABLE ANF NOT JUST A CHATGING CABLE RIGHT??!??@?@?@@ YEAH MAN I DID THAT CONNECT TREZOR TO PHONE ENTER PIN OPEN APP HIT SEND YAY DONE

BaadMike

Your email should provide you the address where you moved your coins. Copy that address and check on any reputable blockchain explorer to see if the balance is correct. Now if you lost your wallet or access to your wallet there's not much you can do. If you have your 12 or 24 words, enter them in a hardware wallet (NOT in any website) and see if you can access the coins with the hardware wallet. Do not answer DM's. They are all scammers.

EthanDavis63

Rule #1: Stay solvent. Rule #2: Do NOT sell before 2029 regardless of the noise. Welcome to the club, stack what you can!"

MyWifeCrazy

Diminishing returns are rife here. It's seems crazy to say but unless bitcoin gets a real use case, it may not even break $300k until the mid 40s if ever. Unless the current usage for BTC changes from just being this investment and hope dump for many people, it will stall and stay stalled until it starts to heavily decline in value. I personally believe there are way to many ways for BTC to drop to zero before it gets even a sniff of a chance to reach $1m. I'd prefer it to reach $1m as I do own some, but I just do NOT see that happening at all.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

rgnet1

I think you're missing a concept here. Technically, when money is "printed", what's really happening is the Federal Reserve (which is NOT the government!) is buying something from someone. Most often, they are buying Treasuries. Treasuries are government debt. Those are literally the government saying "I need money - will you give it to me and I'll pay it back with interest." The Fed is NOT allowed to buy Treasuries directly from the government. This is kind of the backbone of western civilization's free, open market. The market lends money to government via regular treasury auctions - it can be anyone! Banks, companies, and even individuals. Since the open market is buying Treasuries, no one in their right mind would loan money to the government and not get interest back on it (or to anyone unless you're being charitable to a family/friend). So when you ask, "why do they need to borrow it", the answer is simply, "because a free market would never just give money away for no reason." All fiat outside of places like North Korea is based on this system. That's why the US dollar can be used to buy goods from all over the world and North Korean won can't buy shit.

gwillen

There is a procedure like this that can work, as long as you're _very_ careful to do every step correctly. See the end of my comment for some thoughts about the risks involved. You should wait for the initial move to be confirmed to a good depth on the bitcoin chain, and then verify that the initial UTXOs on the bitcoin chain are all spent, before you "respend" them to a different address on the fork. It might take multiple attempts, since your initial move could be valid on both chains. You could deliberately put oversized data into your initial move transaction, to make it invalid on the fork, but it will be a pain to construct that and it might be hard to get it mined for standardness reasons. Another option could be to construct two different transactions, both moving the same coin to different addresses, both still under your control, and race them across the two chains. Then wait for both to fully settle and be deeply confirmed. All of these procedures, because they involve manually constructing transactions, carry a pretty extreme risk of fucking them up in ways that cause loss of your coins. So I generally take the position that they aren't worth attempting unless the value of the fork ends up being very substantial. (In the US, there can be tax consequences of receiving something of value that you _could_ claim, even if you don't. I believe that forks like this should NOT be counted as "constructively received" in this way, because of the extreme risks that can be involved in claiming them, which I think makes it too dangerous to recommend claiming low-value forks as a general practice. The lawyers don't listen to me, though. 😅)

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Post is by: sylsau and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: https://inbitcoinwetrust.substack.com/p/your-bitcoin-has-a-credit-score-now Your Bitcoin may have a **credit score**. Not on Bitcoin. On the systems exchanges use to decide whether your coins are “safe” to accept. **One UTXO might look low-risk.** **Another might show:** * mixer exposure * sanctioned-wallet proximity * stolen-fund links * darknet history * unknown counterparties **Same Bitcoin protocol. Very different compliance reputation.** That means your BTC can be **100% valid on-chain**… …and still trigger a review when you deposit it to an exchange. **The scary part? There is no universal definition of “clean Bitcoin.”** Different analytics firms can score the same UTXO differently. So maybe the next step in self-custody isn’t just: **Protect your keys.** It’s: **Understand your UTXOs before an exchange does.** I broke down the tools you can use, what they actually reveal, and how NOT to destroy your privacy while checking. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Hesychios

The bank is required to report transactions of $10k or more, and they are required to NOT tell you they are reporting it. $2,000 once is bullshit. No justification for giving the customer the third degree.

Huge-Consequence1700

From the look of it, I would say Iit's a copycat, so NOT a original Satoshi N. I also spoke with the bitcoin Graphics Department Corp and they said: Nope. Not from us, because we normally use this tilted orange one 🤷‍♂️.

veskald

The switching layer is the wrong picture. You dont need a bot that picks strategies - you need strategies that each know when NOT to trade. The regime filter lives inside each strategy: a trend rule that stays silent in chop, a range rule that stays silent in trend. Build 2 or N of those, run them together and check the losses/drawdown correlation between them - if its low, the portfolio curve is smoother than any single strategy. The portfolio IS the dynamic bot, no picker on top. And the order still matters: first ONE rule that survives an honest test with fees and funding. The "which conditions does it work in" question comes up during that test anyway - you will see it in the results.

Sus198

Honestly, I can't tell if you are actually joking or not. If you are not joking, then you don't seem to understand the basics of economics. Buyer and seller trust are indispensable elements - definitely. Without trust you have nothing. But those are NOT the ONLY elements that determine the price because an asset can still lose value in time if it has unlimited supply. Bitcoin's value lies in the fact that it has limited supply and therefore it is not an inflationary asset. Say for example a rare painting - there is a seller and a bunch of buyers. The seller can set the price higher because the painting is rare and there is only a limited supply. The will of the buyers and the limited supply will drive the price higher. I can't waste anymore time with you. Go read a book and follow through.

itchy_buthole

Boomers and ai do NOT mix

NiagaraBTC

The ColdCard incident WAS very bad major news. But it did NOT cause a dip. There simply were no people who felt it was a reason to sell.

Profil3r

Sure. Feel free to reach out with any questions. Do NOT accept any help from DMs promising to invest for you. Do this by yourself both for safety and to learn.

Ninjanoel

you are using the wrong word, the word isn't consensus, in cryptocurrencies consensus is an ON-CHAIN THING, do NOT use the word consensus for anything else otherwise you just misusing the jargon. Please reword else honestly I think you are completely confused. Yes humans can reach a consensus but that's not what anyone is talking about when talking about cryptocurrency.

deeneendo

not your keys, not your coins. If you want to hold, get electrum or cakewallet (or similar, but timeproven) and write down you secret words, do NOT enter them on an electronic device or take a photograph! transfer the BTC you bought to the address you created for yourself in your wallet, then you can hold indefinitely and as long as the secret words are kept safe, you will be the keeper and not some shady business that can fold over night.

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Astropin

Do NOT wait for a big pullback.

Cultural_Treacle8464

99.9% of merchants and shops still do NOT accept or even know what crypto is, maybe they will never will. visa crypto-cards are just a workaround, not a win. real crypto payments will become mainstream when politicians and central bankers will decide to allow them, and that is probably never. we never had a chance to win, the game is rigged. but at least we have some workaround

mattimeoo

Came here to say this.  DO NOT TRUST OR USE THE SITE OP LISTED!!!

Peterb88

\# I strongly advice everyone to NOT use this website. Your funds can be stolen That is unless you’re skilled enough to run this in a controlled offline environment like tails and completely vetted the source code for correct entropy. And when you are that skilled, you don’t need this website. The site is probably made with good intentions, but just don’t do it.

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mrjune2040

Past performance is not a predictor of future performance. The idiots (YouTubers) selling a dream of simplistic predictable cycles haven’t been in financial markets long enough to understand that a myriad of macro economic factors can affect all markets in unpredictable ways. Bitcoin isn’t special in that regard, it just has way less historical data to draw from- ie barely 10 years of meaningful (NOT the fucking BTC-e/MtGox years) of actual high volume trading.

Powerful-Chemist888

4x long??? Bruh NO. YOU DO THIS AT A BOTTOM NOT ON THE RISE

MinimalistMindset35

I buy all the way down. See the problem with alot of y’all is you never take the time to shift your mindset and so you view Bitcoin as a risk asset while I view it as a savings account. I got into Bitcoin at 33k. I watched Bitcoin go from 33k to 16k to 69k to 125k to 80k. Fiat price does NOT matter. Fiat price tells you how much people understand Bitcoin. When you finally start to truly understand Bitcoin you will understand that you buy when Bitcoin crashes because it will always rebound because of its foundational qualities

AquarianAge144

Bro. Thats just a lie. We have literally dropped 50% from 126k To 63k and now rebounding to 78k Which is only a 30% increase after a 50% drop.... It was not because of Saylor. Saylor is hurting Crypto these days 🤣 His MSTR stock completed inflated everything and he is literally recycling the gains through BTC. He is not a Hero. STOP CONNECTING BTC TO AN IDOL BITCOIN IS SATOSHIS BEAST. NOT MICHAEL SAYLORS. AND IT OBEYS NOBODY.

Queasy-Ride4291

Lol, this is, in fact, NOT why Bitcoin exists 😆

PatternAgainstUsers

Stop listening to "people". Listen to good traders with a track record who can explain their argument if you want to learn. When you say the word: "people" what that tells me is you are seeking safety in the opinions of the crowd (the safe, mainstream opinion). That is exactly what makes people lose in trading; prioritizing emotional security over alpha. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about, I've heard the same "it will definitely bottom in October" and "it will go to 40K first" for the past year non-stop The crowd COULD be right on that, but the probability is extremely low that they will be, due to positioning math... unless they intend to trade much differently than they speak, and it was all some kind of social engineering ruse. The way BTC is trading right now, IF we get a retracement to prior fair value (64K area), you SHOULD expect it to reject very hard and continue upwards from there if that was indeed a durable low and attracted bids. Particularly because of the clean squeeze that broke that range of value. Anything can happen, I can't predict exact lows and no one can... just describing what the auction would be expected to do. That said, we do NOT have to return to 64K. If we get a retracement to \~69K (approximately the current VAL of the impulse we're undergoing), or thereabouts you could also see passive bids creating a higher low than expected. The higher that low is the more bullish this move is, assuming you see absorption on heavy volume and a rapid clean bullish impulse. You don't get signals this clean very often, but the process of the last bearish impulse barely creating any lower value at all relative to the prior February range, plus weekly RSI divergence at the lows, plus CLEAR seller exhaustion, plus a short-squeeze catalyst after a period of historically low volatility, and this kind of confirmation with the impulse move not being given back rapidly over the past week... it's hard to ask for more validation that the bull cycle has begun - AT THE POINT OF THE TURN. People saying "I'll believe it when we create fair value above 76K etc. - that's a fair point to confirm the thesis... but as for turn-calling, that's late.

OB-Strat

Wrong it was no where near peak hype in 2025, your crazy. Macro was also bad, fed was QT which is NOT good for BTC.

OB-Strat

Guys you don’t know how to read charts… we are NOT in a bull market until AT LEAST we close above previous weekly high at 83k. That is step 1. 40k is very much on the table, and this way of thinking it’s not possible is NOT how you want to view markets. Opinion and price action should be treated differently. People calling for lower in a bearish trend are correct, people calling for higher in bullish trend are correct. What I’m saying is we are STILL in a bearish trend so 40k is more likely than 100k. CURRENTLY which can change,

NewAdhesiveness7767

What for the san francisco gay sake are you talking about 😂😂😂😂 shittiest vehicles ever made. Italians ARE NOT engineers. You cant give them away if you wanted to here in europe . You dont know what are you talking about you must be american

IndependentSpeck

Oh but just a heads up, some HWW's do NOT have an option to use them in multisig, like the BF vault. Sorry I forgot to add that but it's here now a couple minutes later. Just research them before you buy so you don't make an expensive mistake

SoCallMeDeaconBlues1

It's still an assumption. You can argue all you want about what you THINK is going to happen, but no one can see into the future. It's NOT inevitable. But I'm arguing with a brick wall. I have a bunch of it too--- so don't think that I DON'T want it to go up, I do. I also believe that it will. I just think your argument is very.... maxi, and divorced from reality.

KateR_H0l1day

This is the biggest weekly gain since March 2023, but we all know the last low was December 2023. Consequently, I’m very cautious at this moment, I tend NOT to buy anything green

Hour_Flounder1405

[https://startupfortune.com/zondacryptos-second-ceo-has-vanished-after-its-bitcoin-reserves-evaporated/](https://startupfortune.com/zondacryptos-second-ceo-has-vanished-after-its-bitcoin-reserves-evaporated/) I can give you about 57 other examples. your confidence in "the system" isn't actually odd. Most people make the same assumptions. but when you really start thinking for yourself...actually testing these theories and promises of security, you find reality doesn't give two blockchains about your assumptions. btw...this is NOT a one off example. There are plenty..and most if not nearly all of them go unreported. small retail traders mostly. They don't necessarily get their seedphrase stolen, BUT BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY WAY TO POSITITIVELY ACCESS AND OWN THE COINS...ALL THE THINGS YOU JUST WROTE ARE COMPLETELY USELESS. one mistake...one error...there are no protections that cover the loss or transfer of the seedphrase. Everything else is inconsequential. All those things you wrote do not get your seedphrase back. remember what the issue is. Only in crypto is there a single point of failure about security and ownership proof of your money/tokens... that design and lack of actual real world practical backups to prove and to protect your funds is exceptionally stupid. yes, it is an engineering term. Single point of failure...lose the seedphrase and you lose it...and none of those other things matter. none of them. Stupid. and dangerous. watch what happens in post quantum realities. even the mention of a possible hack into the blockchain is going to cause a massive panic selloff. And this WILL happen...even if it turns out to be a hoax or exxagerated. and why would that be. Why would people panic because the underlying seedphrase is vulnerable? because intuitively, people actually understand this single point of failure. God Bless America

CryptoTradersChat

It's NOT finished going down yet, either!

B-Boy357

Let me try ’ve been buying Bitcoin & coding with blockchain since 2012. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I have several panes of glass. We are NOT in a stage of stable horizontal movement right now, and there will be several more BIG swings either up or down… so get ready! I still expect Bitcoin to pass $200k in the next 1-2 years, so act accordingly. See how I did that there

Careless_Product_792

I ASSUME SCAM, OR INSECURE SHIT. DO NOT GENERATE WALLETS IN STRANGE OFFLINE REPOS PEOPLE. UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND HOW TO AUDIT CODE. ASUMME A WEBPAGE IS A SCAM WITH WEAK ENTROPY OR VIBECODED STUFF THAT WILL FUCK YOU UP IF YOU ARE NOT SURE THAT WALLET GENERATION IS CORRECTX EVEN A TYPO IN THE BIP39 LIST CAN CREATE YOU A MESSED UP WALLET. Mods should ban this type of "good intentions" websites, so be warned if you generate a wallet with a website because OP seems "so friendly" and caring about community.

Ar0war

no. You are competing against companies who does nnot only one 1 miner but 10.000-30.000 ASICs No, it is NOT worth and a waste of your time. It would be almost impossible to hit a block my friend. Invest it instead. You are 17 years late.

MelangeBot

Yet the entire market went up together in the last week. BTC went up 22% in a week, XRP even 50%. All rise and fall together. How could that possibly NOT be coordinated? Some group does a pump on BTC, because the other pairs mainly trade vs BTC their dollars prices are now wrong, so people buy it in dollars then sell on the BTC pair, then sell the BTC. Dampening the BTC pump a bit, but pumping the dollar prices of the alts. Some are very low liquidity and on buying on the dollar pairs, easily pump 50% in a week on that.

Beaesse

Do whatever you want for fun, but in no way does biased dice or "bad" throwing compromise your seed. Knowing what you know about your "biased" dice, propose an attack vector. Propose ANY kind of exploit that can take advantage of your "missing" entropy to make it more likely that an algorithm finds your "compromised" seed. Such an exploit cannot exist, even KNOWING your "problem" dice. Now propose an algorithm that has an advantage in finding your "low entropy" seed _without_ knowing about your dice, which must be the case. That's right, you can't do it, not even purely theoretically. The reason casino-grade dice matter in casinos is because the rolls themselves are used for scoring, and knowing their bias CAN be directly translated into a statistical advantage in guessing the direct outcome. Knowing dice's biases simply does NOT help you guess what words your rolls will translate into. Again, do what you want with your OCD, like you said at the top of your post, but don't try to translate your findings into (meaningless, unnecessary) "advice" like you do at the bottom. Casino grade dice and a few extra throws offer no practical additional security.

KrebsD88

The bottom is 💯 NOT IN

EmuSea4963

ONLY buy BTC. Do not be tempted to put your money into other coins. They all end up being rugpulls and scams and most of the people in this community have fucked around with shit coins and lost money at some point. Learn from other people's mistakes - not your own. Additionally I'd say if you haven't already, you should first invest money in "boring" traditional markets. Buy a popular index fund. Don't jump into investing by throwing everything into BTC. Also - be prepared for a learning curve. Crypto can be absolutely stomach-churning when the market tanks. If you have 5k, you have to be prepared for that to drop to 2.5k or lower and NOT SELL (in fact, keep buying on the way down). I have always considered any money I put into crypto as 'burned', because there's a very real chance you can lose it all (and it really, really does not feel good when you do). Good luck on your journey mate - I have faith in bitcoin long-term.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

No_Ebb3152

Avoid leverage. The game is rigged. Unless you have a really good amount if money and can use 2x to 3x you will get rekt eventually. Professional traders dont use over 3x leverage. Dca spot. This latest move is complete manipulation. For every one dollar in btc spot. 94 was leverage. Sure ive made some incredible wins at 16x leverage. But its not sustainable. 3.4 billion shorts wiped. And all the bulls are rejoicing calling the bottom in with 20b in leveraged longs below. DO NOT be surprised when btc is sitting at 50k in two months. All it does is sweep leveraged traders.

CompetitionDouble420

I would recommend GoMining, personally. I've been using it for a little over a year and stashing my mining yield on chain. My on-chain position exploded these past few days. Recently made an [X post](https://x.com/miked0dd/status/2090659074807308373) about FOMO and GoMining being the ***perfect*** entry point. And before I get downvoted, GoMining is absolutely ***NOT*** cloud mining; you own the hashrate and earn your share of the pool reward based on your hashrate's contribution to the network 🤙🏼

Good_Extension_9642

Before you buy any Bitcoin, learn what it is and how it works DO NOT FOMO into something you don't know

Greater-Israel

Exactly for the reason you just listed. Alt season comes when the least expected is like you do not understand the reasons alt seaosn happens. \-94% of crypto investors are NOT from USA. Get that thouru your thick skull! Micro USA politics are irrelevant to us. \- Almost all Alt-Coins are mined under energy cost right now, so there is obvious manipulation \-The graphs of last month to now show alt coins being attracted to higher price lines and they just broke through days ago. \-Metals peaked, AI stocks are close to their peak and investors will look for better multipliers and only the lat coins ten times under their ATH that are attractied to higher prices cna offer that \-More and more institutions globally (forget USA, forget your village, forget your bubble) add crypto every month to their portfolios and they even promote them. Revolut did it a month ago with Dogecoin physical cards and Russia is allowing crypto trading in 11 days from now. \-Bitcoin stabilized and then started rising again giving the sign to the alt coins that the climate is good and the investors appetite risk grew \-There are obvious signs around you you simply choose to ignore.

TheresNoSecondBest

Still a good time to plant a tree? Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Longjumping-Bad-2886

If you know nothing don't even think of day trading or anything complex.  Start with one of the AI tools like chatgpt or Gemini and ask it to create a lesson plan to learn the basics.  And to repeat, DO NOT day trade.

CommercialDuck7496

Who says he has 90% certainty? When did he say that. Also there are different risk return ratio's for different people. Even if you have a good edge, usually the ideal bet size is still relatively small. Betting on your convictions should pay off \*IF YOU ARE RIGHT\* sure, but its a lot harder with leverage, and also sometimes you might have the thesis right, but the degree wrong, or the timing wrong. like let's say he puts a short in, but then bitcoin goes to 90k he gets liquidated, and then it goes down to 55k a week later, he wasn't wrong, but he lost anyways. There are a million reasons why you could have a belief like his, and NOT want to short. I would agree that if he has done literally nothing to exercise his belief then maybe he doesn't have a high conviction in the belief, but that doesn't make it invalid, it just makes it uncertain.

SpaceARIEL

Oh man 😂 I gotta come back and check this comment of yours after November. **Bro, this is NOT the time to buy.** But hey, whatever floats your boat. Buy the pump, sell the dump 🤪

PeteyPab305

Remember the future of money! - You can take away our phones and you can take away our keys, but you can NOT take away our dreams (Yeah, because we're, like, sleeping when we have them.)

HSuke

The biggest indicator of real humans visiting today is that most of the comments are NOT downvoted.

EquivalentLoan4639

Coldcard is a cold wallet, during setup you record random seed names, up to 24, this is what let's your device connect to YOUR secure folder on the blockchain. It turns out that the seed words were NOT RANDOM, thieves exploited and stole. BUT, if you added your own personal passphrase, a random word known to you, you would have now had 25 seed words, you would have been SAFE

ArkhamKnight_1

His priorities are NOT the American People’s!!!

HSuke

Totally agree. I never understood why Microstrategy was trying to boast of a high mNAV premium. High mNAV is NOT good. It's a sign that your stock is completely overvalued. Clearly their investors never learned the history lesson from GBTC. mNAV is a metric for investors exhuberance and insanity--not of success.

PiDigitsOfPi

No, that's not even an illustration of how it works. You can NOT go backwards from a key to a seed phrase. Going backwards is mathematically impossible, other than brute force. The words do NOT map to parts of the key like that.

blabla-i-need-a-name

First question: are you sure your dad didn’t delete any file or did a fresh install of the OS? If so, STOP using any of the drives, it can potentially overwrite any still recoverable data. What you can do is download Autospy (just google it, highly recommended open source software - here’s a starting point: https://youtu.be/S6V66G2tVr8?is=kGGUOPtEvxGW76xw), clone the used drives to a fresh new ones and run autopsy on the cloned drives (NOT ON THE ORIGINAL!!). You can set custom keywords to look for, what you can do is just ask any AI to make a full list of possible wallet file names and tell the AI that you want to use this list as keywords in Autopsy. It’ll understand:-) Hope it helps!

na3than

Yes, there is a mnemonic sentence for every private key. Actually, there are billions and billions of them, assuming your wallet software cares to look beyond the first address index. There is very likely NOT a mnemonic sentence that hashes to a seed that produces a master key that generates all - or even more than one - of the private keys to Satoshi Nakamoto's UTXOs. Why? Because the deterministic algorithms used in BIP32 wallets have the following constraints: 1. We start with one root, the master extended key m. By evaluating CKDpriv(m,i) for several values of i, we get a number of level-1 derived nodes. As each of these is again an extended key, CKDpriv can be applied to those as well. 2. Each extended key has 2^31 normal child keys, and 2^31 hardened child keys. Together these mean a conventional HD wallet - which is implied when talking about "seed phrases" - can only generate 2^32 *external chain* and 2^32 *internal chain* (or *change address*) private keys for each *account* (level three in the BIP44 convention), and such a wallet can have no more than 2^32 accounts for the m/44'/0' coin type that represents Bitcoin mainnet. So, for a given seed, a BIP32 wallet can deterministically generate up to 2^65 "Bitcoin mainnet" private keys. Could you disregard the contemporary standards and just churn out quadrillions and quintillions of private keys for a custom wallet following a unique algorithm after hashing a mnemonic sentence to get a seed and a master key? Sure, but at that point, what you're doing isn't much different than brute forcing the private keys, and you've stayed so far from understanding of "seed phrase" that it's meaningless.

IAmFitzRoy

Brother, nobody here will tell you to NOT buy Bitcoin. Everyone wants you to buy so the price goes up up. Thats how demand/price works.

TheVoidKilledMe

ey they got my key on there NOT COOL DUDE !

Lost-Adhesiveness-72

A Trump support NOT cherry-picking a singular, minute point to "win" an argument? Never gonna happen, my friend....

crimeo

* You are saying for sure now, that NFTs are NOT themselves adding anything practical? Yes or no? Not the underlying thing you slap them on top of, but the thing you slapped on top itself * You are saying for sure now, that NFTs are NOT themselves sustainable? Yes or no?

crimeo

> We are not adding practical usability to tickets. Yes you were, though. Completely unambiguously previously. But whatever, if you now are taking the position that NFTs have no usefulness themselves, that's fine, that's the right answer so that's a healthy attitude to have, cool by me. Just please confirm: * You are saying for sure now, that NFTs are NOT themselves adding anything practical? Yes or no? * You are saying for sure now, that NFTs are NOT themselves sustainable? Yes or no? If yes to both, then we agree now, and all good, have a nice day.

BrianBBaldwin

Thanks for sharing this interesting chart! Please also add XRP to this type of chart, even if XRP faced various "legal" issues that can skew the perspective. What sort of stands out to me is the "feel" about Dogecoin, I had hopes in it and actually I think it was "driven" by the same "inspiration" in the success and vision of Elon Musk. I still feel a lot of "inspiration" in Elon, and adding shares of SPCX into my equity portfolio, but am not really a Dogecoin buyer anymore, in fact I am sort of looking at Dogecoin as part of my "tax-loss harvesting" strategy in terms of the 2026 tax year and the 1099-DA. And speaking of the 1099-DA, I think taxation of crypto capital gains and loss has absolutely played a role in how people feel about crypto "trading" 2021 vrs 2026 - many made HUGE GAINS in the previous years then "felt" the downward pull so SOLD to "collect" the "gains" (taxable event) and actually "took" big money, but then were SHOCKED at the amount of taxes they ended up paying. This in itself was such a shock - even though it shouid have been obvious - that they became "shy" about selling. Or shy about even buying. This also, I think played a big role in how "investors" felt about crypto. And some outfits, like Coinbase, then started offering "incentives" NOT to sell, in return getting good interest rates even though that gens a 1099-INT or -MISC. BUT ... nevertheless, "we" are still here, "out there", we have huge expectations for and about crypto, we are NOT leaving, cryptocurrency still is a longterm "bucket" in my "portfolio" and I am a buyer and will be "to the end", we are just "smarter" in approach and "just be patient" perspective. Smarter. Patient. It will grow. No stopping. My only suggestion is better tax "reform" on crypto, instead of the current 1099-DA repace it with a 8% FLAT TAX on GROSS PROCEEDS only.

New_Ad7422

Bank of America with my debit card let mine be charged over 183 times (it was like 53 withdrawals of 33.38, followed by 80 withdrawals of 29.25, and 50 withdrawals of 37.96 by suica mobile and icoca mobile) WHICH ARE RELOADABLE CARDS YOU USE IN JAPAN?!?! I was in Miami working when this happened and they notified me four hours later via email. By the time it happened, my debit account had a significant amount of money removed, but then also I had to open 3 separate cases for them to research my claims. Such bs. I was like can yall just identify when I’m NOT in Japan but MIAMI??? I had to look up what both of these things were to even know what I’m saying right now. I have any of y’all ever dealt with this or are familiar with Suica/Icoca?? it was insane. I still don’t understand how they fished my bank account and added my debit card to a separate PayPal account. So like every time you cancel a card, but then just activate the digital one it activates in their wallet. You have to actually shut down your account and open a new one in order for this to stop happening.

Jenn2895

That is not true. Trump owns $1B in **crypto**. Not $1B in XRP. He does NOT own any XRP. Where on Earth do you guys come up with this stuff? & does no one bother to fact check?

egowritingcheques

Don't even think about watching this ad. I did and now I can't log into my bank app and the website is down. I think even the local branch collapsed with 8 dead inside. This isn't funny guys. Do NOT watch.

Alcophile

It is limited to protecting the private property of capitalists (NOT the personal property of workers) from being reclaimed by the workers who produced it which is the basis of capitalism.  Free trade is also possible if workers control the means of production.

joefunk76

All of that said, you’re apparently NOT intelligent enough to where you can: 1) Not overuse and abuse the word “literally” like so many of your less intelligent ilk. 2) Know that “I’m” contains an apostrophe because it’s a contraction of the phrase “I am”. 3) Know that there is no reason to precede the word “extraordinary” with “very”; the amplification aspect is part of its definition.

Efficient_Ice_1001

Post from 9 years ago when XRP was $3.20 with a Bloomberg investigation into the claims that banks are using XRP for international transfers > Bloomberg - Banks do not want to use XRP from Ripple > Well it's been 6 years (since Ripple said that banks were going to use XRP) and it's not growing (XRP usage), the one company we found who is using XRP is a Mexican/U.S company that does remittances and they've done 10 to 15 transactions since October averaging between $500 and $1,000 dollars. That is the only company we've found that is using the digital token for the stated purposes that Ripple puts out on twitter and in other places all the time https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7t0j1f/bloomberg_banks_do_not_want_to_use_xrp_from_ripple/ XRP was $2.20 in 2017 when this guy sold all his XRP and warned people. Cripples were saying he was posting FUD. 9 years later XRP is at $1 > "You don't own anything of actual value with XRP...crypto investors are buying at $2+ per coin. Banks *DO NOT* want the coins https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/

polymath_uk

This is such a revealing comment. It used to be (and still is for many of us) the case that we earn money, then wish to save it. The current paradigm about money seems instead to be to get paid monthly, then spend all of it that month. Whether this is on cash purchases, or more likely these days, on renting everything or "subscribing" to things. Example: old model: work --> save --> purchase, keep for ever. new model: work --> spend every penny on temporarily acquired stuff. Money sitting in a wallet, whether it's gold, or BTC is NOT WASTING IT. This is the same incorrect argument that was made about the gold standard in the early 1970s. That somehow, wise investment hampers the economy. I think this kind of thinking is why a lot of people feel poor.

Nathaniel_Sparky500

\>This foresight and insane ability to convince normal people im right in matters of facts and logic led me to convince most of my friends and family to leverage assets to borrow cash to buy BTC at 104k. \>they are NOT happy right now and liquidity is at an all time low in my friend group and family This is excellent satire. I hope.

Deto

It's kind of interesting to think about how many cases like this will NOT be figured out.  So the circulating supply of Bitcoin will just go down over time as people lose coins

zampe

Those pesky bots trying to convince you to NOT pay for something

Marcus-Norton

Speaking of crypto exchange in israel theirs another one called plasbit this claim you own your own crypto, yet they have hot wallet that spreads addresses and they empty your address and now you have nothing, u can see it in transactions, and u only left with balance in "their company" that violates the core of bitcoin which is decentralization, don't go into that website don't even sign up they ask for KYC they ask for lot of things, also some where in the website they are doing you a favor by saying " we dont store raw password " get it? get it? someone who does not understand the basic is handling your money plus they have cold storage which is i think based on some hardware idk but handled by one person and that one person can swear at you, send you emails, and does not tolerate you and if he does not like you he bans, he locks your crypto DO NOT GO INTO THAT WEBSITE- its dangerous you go there you transfer your crypto, its not even yours any more they just give u balance which u don't know what will happen if they decided to do this.user.balance = 0 so do not go there do not trust them, they claim from Poland but they are not, its easy to find out, u can look in their stuff and see the IP lol its so easy to hack them as well

blabla-i-need-a-name

'Memorize your private key or put it on paper'. I would NOT memorize it lol, first of all; what if you get an accident. Second; (I think) it's very hard to remember a whole private key lol. Also, paper is not the best option.. it can get wet, burn etc. Better get a metal plate.

CrypToInvsTor

You are mixing terms. The Math is not Wrong i'm the BlockChain is what Protect The BlockChain. Crypto Markets is Other thing. The problem is always people think Crypto and Markets are the same and it's NOT.

TheresNoSecondBest

>I wouldnt even consider tangem a cold wallet Exactly. It is NOT a cold wallet.

Practical_Mango7633

Mount Gox? There was no Mount Gox, it was MtGox short for Magic the Gathering Online Exchange... At least get your facts straight... Also no I do not think it is too risky for most crypto users. It is too risky for those not willing to spend 15-30 minutes learning how to use a hardware wallet. it is really not very hard... 99% of those doing self-custody and losing their coins do it because they willingly hand over their seed phrase to scammers. Scammers hate that one little trick. DO NOT SHARE YOUR SEEDPHRASE!!!! If you only live by this one simple rule. Never ever share your seed phrase ever! 99% of lost BTC from self-custody could probably have been avoided. Self-custody is one of the main reasons why I hold Bitcoin. It is that one thing that is completely out of banks and governments reach that I can easily take with me more or less unnoticeable where ever I go. However you have lots of people who use centrale exchanges and still get scammed into sending their BTC to scammers. Plus you have the whole risk with that exchange controlling your crypto. MtGox may be one of the oldest and largest but there has been so many more after it where people has lost all or most of their crypto. And not just the global exchanges, lots of major exchanges in different countries as well. Also lots of countries are still unclear on the rules and regulations for crypto. You may risk having your crypto frozen because of new regulations the exchange has to follow. There has been many examples of that as well. I think that if you got half a brain and 15-30 minutes of time, self custody is the safest for most.

na3than

NOT memorizing your seed mnemonic also opens the door to a $5 wrench attack. Why would a determined attacker believe you just because you scream and cry out "I don't know"?

SeeYa-SpaceCowboy

Yeah, I'm happy if you're happy, and I've sold some as well, but this was NOT the best time to sell it all. Best of luck though!

7chickenwings

This is not correct. A stablecoin **targets $1**. There still needs to be a counterparty on both sides of a trade, whether it's on a CEX or DEX. On a DEX, this is facilitated through AMMs and liquidity provided by LPs. The price you actually trade at is determined by MM, traders, and depth of available liquidity. The reserve helps anchor the price at 1:1, but its does not always mean an exact trade for $1 USDT = $1 USD! If it does, someone is eating the cost. In this case, some CEXs like Coinbase provide the opportunity to trade 1:1 to attract customers to use their platform. And if I'm trading on Binance, my execution depends on the liquidity availabe on Binance. Users are NOT automatically accessing the order books or liquidity sitting on Kraken or Coinbase or DEX! Have you tried selling USDC for $1.01? If buyers are willing to pay $1.01, your order can fill. OP is just confused because he thinks there is unlimited liquidity at exactly $1 and everyone is okay with selling and buying at $1 without profiting from a spread.

machin_bidule

You're right. What's important is what bad guys think. Maybe a picture of the HW into the safe, with metadatas, will help them realize it is NOT into my home. I can already prove to them i've got a safe at the bank, but with a picture, maybe they will understand?

IchyAndScratchyShow

Ⅽоіոbа𐑈е: You signed in from Madrid (Spain) using a Ledger live API key. If this is NOT you, contact our team at: (858) 438-5116

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **Good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (**air-gapped**) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is **not air-gapped**. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better build. I would go stateless instead of using their servers. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. There's also ColdCard, great features but recently had a massive duckup, I would wait until all of their code is fully open source, preferably rewritten by the community before touching it. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

IAmFitzRoy

Well isn’t that what gives US control ? A lot of wars are NOT happenings because national debt.

Ok-Muscle-2328

They DO NOT WANT somthing they don't control. T

God_Hand_9764

The religious fanaticism when I learned of it really gave me pause on this guy. And it's something that always gives me pause when I learn it about a person. A little religion is fine enough, but when people take it that seriously and have such die-hard and holier-than-thou conviction about things that are not provable, I'm not about to trust them on anything. But what really sent me was when I learned of him losing all of his Bitcoin (over 200 BTC) due to his own negligence. This guy is supposed to be trusted to help manage and develop the network, but he can't even secure his own stack? This was not like the recent coldcard incident, because in Luke's case he did NOT do everything right. That's just absurd to me that a Bitcoin dev could fuck up their own stack so badly.

Winterkirschenmann

I don't know all that much about investment strategies but isn't one of Warren Buffets biggest rules to NOT look at past performance to make predictions about the future?