BTC

Classic_Ask9587

Someone take loan for a House other for a volatil BTC 🙈🤭

xanmoth

I took out a loan to get some several years ago because I just was obsessed. I couldn't NOT have that number in my wallet. If you feel that way I won't say no. I paid the loan back a long time ago and still have my BTC.

Past_Expression54646

While i congratuate you in becoming a one coiner based on my refractory period analysis BTC still has to go to around 50,000 before stabilizing. After it stabilizes we will then have 14 months before it hits at ATH of around 240,000 a coin. But the bear market will continue until 2027. Not sept. 2026. You are now 1/21,000,000 which is crazy when there are over 7 billon people on Earth. You are now one of Satoshi's elite team members.

Escapement_Watch

I remember a guy posting this same thing back when it was 30,000 a coin He mortgaged his house and got a couple coins I think he was like three BTC All the comments were telling him no it's a bad idea but in the end he did a pretty nice move

kaliki07

I'd say wait for a lower price to buy and then get 1 BTC or even more than that if you want to use this strategy.

420royalhighness

I just asked my qack : Taking out a loan to invest in Bitcoin is a bit like hoping your blind date is with Nicholas Cage – unpredictable. The interest rates for personal loans in the UK vary, but Bitcoin’s price fluctuations can be quite dramatic. To "beat" the interest rate, BTC would need to appreciate significantly over the loan term. The potential is there, but so is the risk. Just make sure you’re ready for the wild ride! Haha

wangshangguan

I would vote against it. For context I’m a long-term BTC holds since 2020, bought what I could afford at that time and never sold any of mine. In contrast, I did something similar to what you are thinking during the NFT boom, I took out a credit card loan of $10K, which was about 1/3 leverage, thinking I could capture more upside, i didn’t. The mere level of difficulty of investing is already hard, adding leverage on top of that will distort your trading mindset. Ended up repaying the loan early and fortunately sold most of my NFT and was able to break-even before the whole thing collapsed. But since then I know I would never invest with borrowed money again. Only put in the market what you can afford to lose with no repayment time constraints

wmredditor

Easy decision, as long as you can conveniently service the loan, or repay it through another means even if BTC drops 50% from here.

polymathicAK47

You say that with such certainty. Yet SOL's price follows BTC's in lockstep. It's huge, but far, far from being its own thing. DeFi adaptation, wallet adoption, transactions, all have increased steadily in the past 6 months. Yet look at SOL's price 🤣 😂 🤣 😂

Coleyx123

Nice. The only BTC I have is what's left over from when I signed up through my buddy's referral, for $10 worth, traded $10 for LTC or some crap, and now have $6 worth. But even now, it kills me to see it, especially the unrealized return. It wouldn't be a lot, but it'd be a couple hundred instead of $6. But good on you. 

SirBankz

Bitcoin is the only crypto that is consistent. The whole world follows it and makes sure that it keeps its integrity. Though a few ones like ETH, SOL and XRP are also okay. Beyond these ones, I will advise you to let go of some tokens you have. Many were crested to get people money then disappear. So, sell it and buy Bitcoin or any of those ones mentioned above. In fact, just go for BTC.

quantum_burp

1) it runs on a different hashing algo so nobody is moving to mine it 2) most of the profit from mining ltc came from doge, but that's down 90% or something 3) more mining isn't going to make the price go up There is no niche that LTC fills that other networks don't fill better. Store of value? -> BTC payment network? -> BTC + lightning, or any stablecoin on an eth l2 Privacy coin? -> ZEC/XMR The only reason LTC has any value is because coinbase listed it alongside btc, eth and xrp in 2017. Since then the people who initially bought it keep buying more.

Amimir1992

I'm sorry to tell you that you were a victim of a child who likes to bet money. Take advantage that you are still on time, withdraw the money and buy BTC

Top-Care-8946

I got in head one thought that crypto (not only BTC but also other crypto currencies too) is better than fiat (traditional currency) because in crypto format it is possible to recover your lost money. If you lose your wallet full of cash somewhere then it is gone forever because someone finds it and does not return it to you. But if you lose your cold HW wallet then you can recovery its content because you have seed phrase backup recovery. It's not possible to recover fiat in the same way. Never!

Constant_Assistant_8

I bought 40 BTC in 2011 for less than 500 USD, and bought 2 grams of 2C-I (a psychedelic research chemical) with it. I'm pretty sure I had 0.5 BTC in "change" left, but didn't bother to back it up when I reformat my hard drive. This was before I actually understood what Bitcoin really was. I have just bought 0.1 BTC because I think it's still a bargain at this point.

Think_Attention3014

he is one of the tribe that owns the banks and cause the dollar inflation, all his kinds hate BTC and i wonder why

SignificanceFront622

Looking at 2026, Bitcoin (BTC) is likely to be less about hype and more about maturity. After the strong institutional adoption that followed the Bitcoin ETF approvals and the impact of the 2024 halving cycle, 2026 could be a year where we see consolidation rather than explosive growth. Historically, Bitcoin moves in cycles expansion, peak, correction, stabilization. By 2026, we may be in a stabilization or early re-accumulation phase, depending on how the 2024-2025 cycle tops out. I wouldn’t expect straight-up price action forever. Markets breathe. In simple terms: don’t expect magic, don’t expect collapse. Expect evolution

phillydecat

V2 is a bad sign. Get out with whatever profit you can. If you want to hold crypto. Just buy any top 5 that's not a stable coin and when Bitcoin rises you can make an easy 20% to 50% when the market comes back. They said BTC wouldn't hit 100k it did. Next stop is 120k and everything moves with it. So if you hold long enough you can make some money. Or just yolo this 300. I once took $100 on something called Lucian or something and made 1000k. So it's possible, just have to be willing to take the risk.

Blockchainauditor

Hey there. You haven't really given us enough information to work from. :3 point something" Bitcoin is around $200,000 US. How did you come into access of 3 BTC? You say you've "withdrawn" it; by what process did you withdraw it? Do you have a crypto/Bitcoin wallet or an online service that gave you a Bitcoin address you gave to the source to withdraw it? Bitcoin is not something you touch. It is something you can trade, sell, exchange. You can learn about Bitcoin basics using the Resources link on the right or from the sister subreddit, BitcoinBeginners.

crozzydog

I just assumed they were holding BTC, I didnt consider they were going to buy it after the promotion ended. That would make sense though

meowmoose1831

Yeah i was thinking they were waiting for some stability but i think they probably want to avoid making multiple buys that result in folks getting wildly different amounts of BTC for the same USD. But idk since they won't just say that to us haha

crozzydog

Hope so, im not surprised they are taking their time paying us out after this recent dip in BTC

meowmoose1831

They told that one guy he was dq'd a few days ago. I emailed them and asked if there were any issues with my compliance check and they said no. So they didn't say "confirmed winner" but they confirmed that the award would be deposited in my PayPal account not before 60 days but they couldn't say when. So if you haven't been told you've been DQ'd and you've been in frequent contact particularly then you're good. But also anyone else reading if you got the provisional winner email from PayPal and replied to the promowinners email in the correct timeframe and never got an email telling you that they couldn't proceed with your winnings then you are a confirmed winner and you should email them asking where the winnings are (per clause 14 of the rules). And if they don't reply file a complaint with your state AG and the FTC. When you file with the FTC they will ask if you paid any money- you didn't- like yes you bought BTC to enter but you didnt pay any money you weren't asked for money to get the winnings. That helps the FTC distinguish this from a total scam and just a violation of a legal contract. They probably just haven't confirmed all the winners yet and want to do one large BTC purchase but there should be more clarity.

jkl2035

Du hast recht, niemand hat es bisher bewiesen, im Sinne dass es noch niemand gezeigt hat. Ich hoffe wenn dieser Fall eintritt ist sowohl BTC als auch ETH bereits migriert sonst stürzt der Markt ein. Die Theorie dahinter (sowohl Algorithmisch als auch Hardware seitig) existiert, ebenso die Implementierung, die Frage nach weiterer Skalierung bleibt

MotoMola

Who cares. Sold everything last year for VEQT. Up 20% while that's BTC's gain in 5 years.

FurlessSasquatch

I don't think you are wrong, I think the BTC inception was for a much more nefarious reason than we are all led to believe. I'll still partake don't get me wrong. But its kind of like the price of homes. As long as every generation is able to sell it to the generation behind them for more than they bought it values will continue upward. At days end though yes BTC was 100% created for the rich and power to launder money. Then they sold the idea to the masses using finite supply and a mysterious figure head behind it all. Whoever made it the first time can certainly do it again but they won't because it would obviously destroy the money printing machine they build themselves the first time

RetiredAvocado

"BTC on exchanges" is not reported, it's estimated. It might have been inaccurate then, or now, or both. 10,000 BTC gets sent to a new address from allegedly an exchange. Did it go to Saylor? Did it go to Mrs. Green? Did it go to another address owned by the same exchange? You don't know. Neither do the places that estimate "BTC on exchanges."

Dismal_Tap_9073

# 1️⃣ The "Epic Fail": Phishing the Prosecutors? 🎣 The Prosecution took over 320.88 BTC from the police as seized assets. But get this—the person in charge allegedly got "phished" by a fake site and handed over the private keys. Yes, the same agency that catches scammers got scammed out of 300억 KRW. # 2️⃣ The "Flex": Using the Prosecution's Wallet as a Laundry 🧼 After 6 months of silence, the BTC suddenly moved on Feb 17, 2026. But the route is super sus: * **Hacker's Wallet** ➡️ **Prosecution's Original Wallet (Wallet A)** ➡️ **Unknown New Wallet (Wallet B)** The thief literally used the Prosecution's own wallet as a "stopover" to wash the coins. It’s like a robber breaking into a house, then using the owner’s car as a getaway vehicle just to flex. # 3️⃣ The "Silent Treatment" 🤫 When reporters asked, "Yo, did you guys recover it or did you get hacked again?", the Prosecution went into ghost mode. They either didn't pick up or said, "We can't confirm." # 🧐 The Big Questions (NFA, just vibes) * **Inside Job?**: 5 different wallets were drained at once. Did someone inside leak the keys, or was the management really that bad? * **Trolling or Washing?**: Why go back through the Prosecution's wallet? Is it to confuse the on-chain trail, or just to mock the authorities? **TL;DR:** Korean Prosecution lost $25M in BTC to a phishing link, and now the hacker is using their own wallets to laundry the funds while they stay silent. Absolute legendary fumble. 💀

Life-Republic2311

Let’s goooo 💪🤝 Officially a BTC fish, welcome to the club! You know what to do 💎👋

cointon

It will pass with rewards in BTC instead of USD.

Desperate_Jacket_876

Could be but you know how its been lately, good and bad news get sold off hard. Sentiment is so terrible here and I stand by my call that either Bitcoin will start going back up to catch up with the SPY or that the SPY will start to lose ground and join BTC to the downside.

SurroundAccording535

I know is many days old, but in case someone else stumbles with the post. Keep it simple, start with BTC and ETH, set up on coinbase or kraken, and buy a small amount every week regardless of price. that's called DCA and it works way better than trying to time anything. one thing i wish someone told me early: have an exit plan before you buy. like "i'm out if it drops 20%" or "i'm taking profit at 2x." set a stop loss so you don't have to think about it. the buying part is easy, knowing when to get out is what actually saves you.

mimho_ecosystem

BTC cai a 45K até Outubro

Economy-Software7848

"Bitcoin is backed by the trust of people believing in Bitcoin." I believe you can replace BTC by any FIAT and the claim is still true. If all citizens of country X and it's foreign country partners loose trust in their national currency, well FIAT money collapses too, it happened in Turkey and other countries. Because those paper bill have no intrisinsic value either, they are not made of precious metal. Only the trust in the state, governement legitimate the trust in a national currency.

Schrezberatina

Decide if you want this to be your bag or if you can handle another short term loss by converting everything to BTC.  Either way, turn off crypto notifications from your phone. Move your crypto to self custody. Then wait a few months or years. Your mental health will thank you.

RETIROTECH

BTC flowers Reddit

Xennenial

Because if someone were to dump that much BTC all at once, it would fill every buy order and crash to zero.

Y0l0BallsDeep

Who is going to lend him the money if BTC drops to 8k? What do you think will happen to his share price? It will probably be trading like a penny stock

correction_robot

Why in the world would you put 1 BTC on 4 different wallets??

Fix_The_Money

People like her when BTC price is going up, but suddenly everyone hates him when BTC price goes down

eltoda

Just a few months ago all these analysts forecasting BTC will hit 200k soon. Why should I give a damn about the same bunch now?!

Purple-Wall3847

I got lucky and needed some money when BTC was still north of 100K, and my avg was in the 50's... It was only like $1500 but it was there and not at a loss thank goodness. Now I am buying back in.

Street_Outside_7228

BTC can also, it's called a hard fork and updates are actively being worked on.

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Retail inflows are a *context signal*, not a timing tool. Large inflows often coincide with late-cycle behavior, but they can also reflect delayed allocation catching up after sitting in cash. The real risk isn’t “retail bought,” it’s whether liquidity, earnings, and financial conditions can absorb that flow. Correlation with BTC matters in the short term, but structurally, they still diverge by liquidity regime, not headlines.

Street_Outside_7228

Banks, government and military are in danger of quantum before BTC

TheSpotDesk

You’re already doing the most important part which is trying *not to* gamble. On “is it a good time to buy BTC?” nobody really knows in the short term. A simple beginner approach is to DCA a small amount on a schedule you can stick to (weekly/biweekly), and keep some cash back so you don’t feel forced to buy on a big green day. On BTC/ETH vs alts, I think most beginners do better starting with BTC/ETH first. Not because alts can’t outperform, but because they’re harder to understand and easier to overtrade. If you *do* explore beyond BTC/ETH early, stick to assets with a longer track record and strong liquidity, and keep the size small. You can always add more later once you’ve seen how you react to volatility (price swings). Since you’re already watching charts, a few things worth learning early: order types (market vs limit), fees/spread, and basic security (2FA, withdrawal whitelists). And once the amount becomes meaningful, learn self-custody basics so you’re not leaving everything on an exchange long-term.

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Life-Republic2311

Don’t worry fam they’ll come around! People are always scared of new tech.. and even more so of new money. Besides, in today’s economy, most folks don’t have a ton of extra money to invest, and many who do are looking to ride the AI boom. IMO BTC is inevitable… you know what to do 💎

biba8163

/u/Froezt > People are not ready for how hard ADA is gonna fly when it breaks the 1.15-1.20 resistance. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1h2zjuc/comment/lzpxiir/ > Ada might actually start flying VERY soon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bbp8h3/comment/kuewz9h/ > *I'm learning to fly but I ain't got wings*♩ ♪ > *Bagholding is the hardest thing*♩ ♪ > *Well, the ADA ATHs will never return*♩♫ ♬ > *Many BTC halvenings may come and billions of CRO might unburn*♫ ♬

DerpJungler

Idk why everyone is freaking out. Btc will be back in a few years. There's no liquidity right now. Eventually there will be and BTC will run again. And then it will drop again. It's like people havent learned anything from the past 15 years

DRAGULA85

I’m just gonna pretend it will be a another nothing burger. And of BTC pumps, then that’s a bonus

AmanCMN

Because most people don’t reject Bitcoin… they reject uncertainty. BTC basically says: “Hey, question your government, your bank, your entire understanding of money.” Most people just wanted a savings account, not an existential crisis. Also let’s be real — volatility scares the hell out of normal humans. We see -30% and think “discount.” They see -30% and think “call the priest.” And ego plays a role too. Nobody likes admitting they ignored something for years and it kept going up anyway. That’s painful. Some people will only buy at $250k when CNBC tells them it’s “safe.” Others will never buy because it sounds weird and nerdy.

Plugmaster69

Oooooof....im still sitting/stuck with some BTC i overpaid for in May 2021 (65-70k).. couldn't imagine getting back in the deep end

hera007

Let it shut. Sometimes you need to disconnect in order to connect. Plus BTC don't need internet. It still functions.

Desperate_Jacket_876

lol, are you guys not watching? BTC wants to move up but the market keeps dumping and dragging it along.

AmanCMN

Full Kelly on BTC? That’s how you speedrun emotional damage. Kelly assumes you actually know your edge and probabilities. In Bitcoin? Be honest — most people are just vibing off narratives and macro Twitter. If you really believe BTC has positive EV long term, fractional Kelly is the only sane play. Half Kelly at most. Maybe even quarter Kelly because volatility will humble you fast. People forget Kelly maximizes growth, not sleep quality. Edge in BTC isn’t “number go up.” It’s understanding liquidity cycles, macro conditions, and your own ability to not panic sell -30%. If you can’t quantify your edge, you don’t have one. You just have conviction. Personally? Long-term allocation + rebalance. No hero mode.

Cryptizard

The counterargument is actually that the Bitcoin devs have never mixed decisions about the Bitcoin protocol with concerns about the price of bitcoin. It is the one thing that separates BTC from all the other shit coins. They shouldn’t start now

TopAlert2383

We may have had higher BTC this cycle but the last cycle everything pumped to crazy amounts. SOL hit 258 and only hit 300 this cycle, AVAX was at 150 and struggled to hit 50 this cycle. Trust me when I say 2021 was way more exciting than 2024/2025. You could turn 1k into 10k in a month back then. What I'm saying is money is made from pushing it down as low as possible and then pumping it back up. Newer people hate seeing their bags drop that much in value, but its necessary for true wealth to be built. If BTC hits 30k and your coins will be down 90% or more. That's when you buy and hold. But if Saylor gets liquidated we see sub 10k BTC and altcoins close to 99% losses and then everyone will say crypto is dead. Thats when smart money will start buying. As time goes on less and less chains will recover and thats cause the market will pick winners and losers. We dont need 20k different chains. 10 at best is what's needed and ETH is taking a huge chunk of that with L2's and L3's. SOL, HBAR, ETH and BTC have their own ETF so my money is on them being the chosen few.

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mylospykar

So now we’re comparing XRP to BTC chart?

FurlessSasquatch

If Epstein rumour is true BTC goes to 0 so let's hope that isn't the case

FurlessSasquatch

Silk road was incredible. It took my 2014 2015 BTC too

Xennenial

Wallet services are constantly being updated to become more quantum resistant. The real issue with quantum lies withe the older wallets that haven't been touched in years. Particularly Satoshi's wallet. Imagine Satoshi's wallet with 1 million BTC being hacked then the person(s) who hacked it sells off 1 million BTC on the open market all at once. This would literally crash the BTC price to zero, and the rest of the market would panic along with it.

StephenASmyth

My frozen body thawed, I’m woken up, see that 1 BTC is only trading at a pack of gum bc some idiot in AI or quantum ruined it for everyone, and ask a tech worker at the ice facility to put me back down

DrCrazyCurious

I mean, yeah all of those statements *are* clown shit. All totally fair criticisms... of XRP *people*, not XRP *itself*. Look at its All Time chart. I started stacking XRP (and BTC and others) in 2021 and despite the recent plummet my XRP bag is still up 130% I still think it's a solid investment even if many XRP fans are clowns for posting "*I bought $10 of XRP wen lambo??*" https://i.redd.it/ol4w5ea6qhkg1.gif

orientalsniper

They are still in denials, saying BTC will die, I agree that BTC is bad for the environment, but there are some truly delusional people on that sub.

Suspicious-Skill1934

this level of downvote confirm me the so low QI of BTC investor , not able to use percentage rule

Imp-Classic17

Crazy how much popularity he got thanks to BTC and he is the loudest critic out there

liquid_at

sry... not a meme-trader. "only one" "BTC to 1 million" "DCA every day" .... meme traders are funny, but hardly ever understand what they are doing...

Street_Outside_7228

Give your lunch money to bank so they can dump on you and buy more BTC then.

baIIern

People found out that BTC has no intrinsic value /s

wancruz

Would you say using BTC as collateral under cryptographic rules is added trust, or just expanded function? I think that distinction is where this whole debate lives.

ProfessionalDoor2638

For me I put a few thousand in to see where it goes. Now that BTC low pays low but still not to bad. Will see with difficulties raising if it holds up or not.

wancruz

Same. BTC DeFi didn’t get big because the rails were wrong. It asked holders to swap sovereignty for yield. If utility can be unlocked with native control and verifiable enforcement, that’s when it stops being a narrative.

Blueberry_Dependent

Maybe I can even add to remember the 24 seed phrase words which in his case will be 96 words but damn, If I had 1 BTC I would make sure to remember those words in less than 5h that's for sure.

olduvai_man

The past 8 years without a new ATH was just consolidation for the big breakout that will take it to a 10T market cap project. BTC is expensive at $66k but XRP is only $1.4 so there is enormous upside! /s

hao233

We seem to be entering a commodity super-cycle which is usually associated with holding low risk assets. Unless DJT announces something huge or AI job disruption causes QE (think many trillions) it might be a long time for BTC to see new highs. I think QE will be many trillions big and we will see BTC reach new highs before DJT leaves office.

Novel_Board_6813

BTC aline wiped out more than 28% in profits in the last few months It can also leave you poorer than when you started

Odd-Worth-9021

Moved all of my BTC off the exchange

Project_Demosthenes_

You really haven’t heard about it? It’s a bunch of GME, DOGE, and BTC maxi-cypherpunks been working together for over 2 years.

thebuders

I googled it yesterday just because I wanted to find the price of BTC when Dan Pena claimed it was going to zero(it was 8k btw).

Bigshift-2034

Do you need my BTC address? You can send it over. Thanks 😃

Bongressman

BTC is obviously going to crash. It's a classic bear market. Right on schedule. Every midterm year. It may bounce to mid 70s for a bit, but it will roll over again. Probably two more legs down. Like it has always done in a bear year for almost 20 years.

EliteTechUniversity

Why not just purchase BITO or an ETF that pays you a dividend. Check out normalfinance.io for liquidity pools to hold that BTC

TopAlert2383

They said the same thing last cycle. We saw 16k BTC and $8 SOL. The liquidity is being drained with all the up and down. SOL just was at $78 when BTC hit 70k. You must be new to crypto to think we won't see $50 SOL again. Institutions make money with it dropping that low. They dont actually believe in it yet. This is just a game for them.

RiceMofo

Then put your money where your mouth is and sell all your BTC to rebuy at 35k

battery923

How is BTC commisionless if you have to pay a fee to transfer ? Are commissions considered different than miner fees?

Ok_Definition7018

Well, i think there may be no huge incentive for saving small amounts of money. I know plenty of people who invest 6 or 7 figures into a simple fixed deposit account. Those are trying to preserve the money with minimal risks and beat the inflation, which works for now. Inflation doesnt bother wealthy people that much, i certainly dont care much. Obviously i could prepare better for an crash thats probably going to happen sometime, but i wont be affected too hard. If im going to try and counter the crash, i wont invest all in crypto, i will invest in foreign currencies, maybe more properties, a functioning business, gold, etc. Bitcoin doesnt grow like a stock, it has a great performance since it was created, but the problem is, i dont expect common people to rigiously DCA. Bitcoin is a great investment, thats not a question we will debate, but the common people, are they disciplined enough to DCA? Probably not. Also they will have to keep a steady income over those 10 years, that is not always possible. All is possible with the power of motivation, but people arent motivated. My assumption was conservative, i just didnt want to think too big. Every market has these exploiters, thats for sure, some people sing BTC praises like its not the case here as well or that it will get better eventually, which i disagree. I didnt also mean to say, abandon everything to invest into Crypto. I meant, try and have a succesfull career outside of crypto and then hop into crypto. I know only 1 person that made millions via crypto, everyone else did something more common. Automating it is hard, because thats somebody more or less discplined needs to do, someone who is convinced BTC will not die, someone who has a stable income and no big emergency pruchases and most important, someone who is motivated to break their comfort zone. The strategy is simple: stack and sell 5 years later. But being skinny is easy as well, its not a secret you have to watch what you are eating. Why do fat people exist then (im not counting medical problems and such)? Being fat is objectively unhealthy, so why? Because they are not motivated and discplined, thats all there is to it.

EmuFlaky2922

My $.02 - overall BTC low will touch 200WMA. 35-50k at some point. At least once. If btc hits 50k soon it’ll likely be bullish short term to 90s. And then cool off, correct again, probably remain stable. If it remains stable around 67, I’d say that’s a good valuation for the entire year. If it wicks or dips and returns then that’s a steady price. If/when we correct lower buy baby, buy. Hindsight is 20/20 - what an investor or influencer says is the lowest target, even with experience, charts, and social credit, may not come to fruition. Considering this is the best year for accumulation, buy every dip and DCA. When BTC had that last leg down to 15-17k in nov 22, it was there for like a month and then stabilized in the 20s. People waited for lower like 12k (RIP Gareth Soloway).. many believed him. And there was clout and charts and talk… omg was there talk but insolvency everywhere. But it remained steady and not long after that was one of the most insane bull runs due to the ETF in ‘23. You could have bought at 25k and still 5x. I saw this somewhere: In bull markets- bad news hurts price momentarily but overall it goes up daily/weekly/monthly. In bear markets- good news helps price momentarily but overall the price goes down. Write down targets and stick to them. Legit. Write them down when and where you will BUY and SELL. selling feels great - I won’t be doing that for a bit probably. End rant!!!

Ok_Definition7018

Inflation increases the prices of apartments as well and thats on top of them being increasing in value anyway. I guess to be precise: i bought apartments that are not finished or at least the building is not finished. So when it gets done, i can sell for higher, Investing early is good. BTC is liquid, but what, do i invest everything in it? No. I have to diversify. Selling apartments is not super fast, but i invest money that i wont need urgently, so im good.

Ok-Lavishness8030

Every cycle has this exact post with different numbers. In 2022 it was "analysts warn $10K incoming" at $16K. In 2018 it was "$1K is next." Same structure every time, credible analysts, broken support levels, macro fear, miner capitulation. The MicroStrategy point actually works against the bear case. Saylor isn't panicking he's rolling loans and buying more. When the guy with billions on the line is calm and Reddit is panicking, I know which signal I'm watching. Maybe it hits $50K. But every time BTC dropped 70%+ and people posted "here's why it's going lower," it was within 12-18 months of a new ATH. Maybe this time is different. It never has been before though.

Alexbobica

Congratulations, that’s a great move! We don’t know where the bottom is, so no need to worry. I’m holding BTC and a few alts (ZEC, AIOZ, & DIA). I think in 5 years we’ll be more than satisfied. Let’s see.

Bigshift-2034

Good on you 👍 I keep stacking sats, hopefully one day I can hold full one BTC. 15 years outlook is the way! I’m confident that in 2034 people will look at this days price like we do now back at 2016!

AlligatorHater22

I'm not sure about this sentiment, I see it alot. Let's say you hold 1 BTC and the exchange gets robbed or hacked - the whole market loses its value not just the exchange. So I fail to see the benefit of own storage when you increase the chance of losses due to personal Error.

asseousform

Wealth consolidation of bitcoin is highly skewed by exchange and ETF wallets holding large amounts in custody for customers. Using BTC wallets to measure wealth consolidation would be like considering banks to be individual holders when measuring consolidation in USD, when in reality they hold for millions of people.

aevitas1

Every time BTC drops it’s dead. Every time it rises it’ll go to 1 million.