BTC

AAAdamKK

My brain: held BTC at $120k *Ha what an idiot*

eckstuhc

Your individual cost basis does not make BTC safer, ya knob.

Kie_ra

Dunno mate, I was up 6x my cost base at the 2025 peak. Can you elaborate how the stock market is safer and better? BTC just casually dipped 50% and I am still up a 3x?

DiamondHandDezo

This is sad, and I can't imagine how you feel, but this is exactly why I only trade BTC ETFs. I know it defeats the purpose of what Bitcoin stands for, but at the end of the day, we trade Bitcoin for the financial gain of it. At least most of us do

Ar0war

That is what usually happends to be honest. Not many people join first during a bear market, why would a person who never invested in BTC buy an asset that nobody talks about, and those who talk says it is dead Many people, maybe the majority of people buy during a bull market when the news are about "supercycle, btc to *insert price*". Then three things might happend: . The person accepts defeat and sell at loss during the bear. . Don't sell at a loss but don't buy the dip and "wait for it to pump to his entry point to sell" (those usually end up buying again during the bull market after euphoria hits again) . The person study bitcoin, understand how money works and what actually bitcoin is and therefore keeps buying the dip, and buy again lowing the average. I personally bought first during 2017 bull market at around 17k, then watched it dip to 4k (Corona times). I kept DCAing for years every week, and keep doing.

DontLook_Weirdo

100% - BTC is not meant for quick trades. Should never be considered as such. It's an index fund with severe shakes, it'll blow up but it's going to take you down with it first.

New-Plastic9879

No, not early, the easy money has been made. But Bitcoin is not yet mature either. I have changed my thinking a lot on this topic. I don’t believe Bitcoin will ever represent a significant share of global transactions, at least not in the lifetime of anyone now living. But BTC is still growing into its role as an alternative asset with unique risk/reward characteristics. and will slowly find its way into global asset allocations. This is the only kind of ‘adoption’ anyone can count on right now. It won’t result in massive returns like those early years, but it will likely result in returns competitive with other assets. You won’t get rich quick in Bitcoin anymore. But you can get rich slow.

rgnet1

Yeah, a "BTC mortgage" is completely useless unless it is immune from margin call. A house can go deeply underwater but no one can collect on you if you service the debt. Until a lender is willing to do that with BTC, nothing will change.

crimeo

How? Even if every single Russian retail investor invested in other coins moved 100% immediately to BTC/ETH, it would represent a shift of about 0.05% or something of all crypto investment

Legitimate_You_4730

I've been following the Coldcard situation pretty closely, and I also went through ERA Wallet's post about how they generate entropy. A few people were sharing it as the obvious answer to what happened, but I wanted to actually think through the argument instead of just nodding along. What bothers me most about the Coldcard incident isn't even the amount of money lost. It's how the failure happened. This wasn't phishing. It wasn't an exchange getting hacked. It wasn't someone storing their seed phrase in a Google Doc. The device did exactly what users expected it to do. It generated a seed, kept it on the device, never connected to the internet, and still produced a compromised wallet because of a firmware bug dating back to 2021 that caused it to fall back to a weaker software RNG instead of the hardware RNG. After three waves of drains, roughly 1,367 BTC are reportedly gone. That's the uncomfortable part for anyone who has ever felt completely safe because their funds were in cold storage. The whole promise of a hardware wallet is basically: your private key never leaves the device, so you're protected. But that only matters if the private key was generated properly in the first place. And that's an assumption most people never really question. A secure seed and a compromised seed can look exactly the same from the outside. Both can give you 24 perfectly normal-looking words. That's where I think ERA's approach gets interesting. Their basic argument is that you shouldn't put the entire security model behind one source of entropy. Instead, they combine two hardware RNGs from different manufacturers, using an STM32 chip alongside a NIST-certified secure element. Then there's the optional expert flow, which adds camera input, device movement and touchscreen input before everything is blended through SHA-512/256. The redundancy makes sense to me. If Coldcard taught us anything, it's that a silent failure in a single entropy source can become catastrophic. Having independently manufactured hardware generators means one failure doesn't automatically mean the entire entropy process is compromised. I also like the detail around user-generated entropy. ERA doesn't simply accept whatever input the user gives it. If someone barely shakes the device or leaves the camera pointed at a wall, the system can reject the input rather than pretending it added meaningful randomness. That's a small implementation detail, but it's the kind of thing I actually want to see. That said, I'm not ready to call the problem solved. ERA published this explanation immediately after a competitor suffered a major incident. That's exactly when I'd be paying more attention to the claims, not less. The chip-level claims can be checked independently. The implementation is harder. A well-designed entropy system on paper and a correctly implemented entropy system in production are two very different things. Coldcard is a pretty painful reminder of that. I'd also question how much value the "expert flow" really adds for the average user. Camera sweeps, shaking the device and scribbling on a touchscreen sound useful, but they're also more work. Most people will probably skip them. Which means the two-hardware-generator baseline has to be strong enough on its own. The extra entropy sources are only meaningful if people actually use them. So where do I land? I think the redundancy principle is absolutely the right lesson from the Coldcard incident. ERA's multi-source design is a legitimate response to the question of what happens when one entropy source silently fails. That's not just marketing fluff. It represents a different risk model from relying on a single source. But there's still a gap between "this architecture makes sense" and "this architecture has been independently proven to work." I'd want to see third-party audits, reproducible entropy testing, and eventually the NIST test-suite results ERA has teased. Until then, I'd call it promising rather than solved. Trust, but verify. And that standard should apply equally to every hardware wallet maker, including the ones currently benefiting from someone else's bad week.

Odd_Sir_8705

Pretend BTC was a notebook and people initially used it to track money. And them some people decided to turn it into a hard drive. BIP-110 was ppl saying cut the shit and use it for the money only. This is how my kid explained it to me

b0urb0n

Only BTC

Odd_Sir_8705

Agreed. But you will have people claiming that he's selling the $12k BTC from 2020 and "profiting" $40k a coin and none of that exquisite BTC he bought for $120k and losing $60k a coin...

Soggy-Tutor9366

Well.. I remember selling my BTC at $1k... to pay debts.. and now I'm still in debt.. so I was like, "if I only I hold onto it, probably now, I'm debt-free"

PeaceAgitated1978

Exactly. Nice resume. All we shall look at is, first before anything else, does they plan to print money to debase the national debt. Yes. Then when? Then is the legislations, laws, support from Big money, clarity act is something.. but even without it. We still go up like moonshot if the last correction hit the reset has they wishes. Recovery will be spectacular. Can't happen without a finale. One last fireworks. And how they time it. With the flood's gates of newly minted stablescoin and $$.. is the true how fast will the recovery be. Just wait and see. Macro economics is financing BTC rise.. nothing else. That last cycle was lame because of how adoption been. And because not the same players were in the arena.. ETF and MSTR, versus gamblers over leveraged.. whales has been made in 2021.. now they ain't acting the same. They adapted to who is the biggest fish in the ponds. And it's not them, for most of them. 800 000 BTC all to one single entity. The same for ETF. Even bigger if you group them .. ok, it's just 20% of the 21 millions total supply. But don't forget the 4 millions BTC that never have moved and are estimated lost. Market volatility adapted .. these big entities are feeling bigger since we got some deads account loaded. In % of the whole. They understood that years ago. They control and manipulate BTC. Just by a lack of organization on our side. We totally still can GameStop the chart against them 🤣 only most of us don't share the same language.

Upset-Guard383827

For an open-source, privacy-focused service, I’d focus on Bitcoin-native directories like BTC Map and Cryptwerk, plus relevant communities. Also worth getting your story in front of crypto-native readers through independent outlets like Coin24.news — discovery matters as much as the listing itself.

FingerSerious

Given you work in Crypto. Why not get your employer to pay you partly in BTC ?

Any_Upstairs_6172

Hello... My understanding, after talking to a professional, is that in America BTC is property so as someone suggested... no wash sale...

jgarcya

Study the four year cycle of Bitcoin by Bob loukas...on YouTube. It will rebound .. when you buy the top it takes about three years to break even.. But it will get a new all time high... Like every four year cycle prior. Bob loukas turned 100k into millions... And shares his portfolio. He's a genius that I owe all my BTC success. Best wishes.

TheAudacityofHopium

I've been a BTC enthusiast for a couple of years now. I've honestly never seen anything as devastating as the Coldcard hack. I'm angry and sorry for all of the people who trusted Coinkite and lost everything. However, even now, as bad as it has been recently, I'd say that self custody is still the answer. Your chances (historically) of losing everything to an exchange because you decided not to self custody are still extremely high. We've seen too many big companies fail....Mt. Gox, Celsius, FTX, etc. The way I see it: if you self custody, your chances of making it are still much higher than if you let an exchange hodl your coin for you. It's rough, but you have to try your best, because an exchange at the end of the day is still worse by a long shot. Again, I'm really sad about the hack, but that's part of what big governments like North Korea and China want you to do: stop self custodying and give it to companies from which the bitcoin can ultimately be seized.

Acceptable_Piano4809

There’s never gonna be a top in BTC in our lifetimes

crimeo

BTC literally does nothing useful other than enable scams. The sole seemingly useful thing I've ever seen argued for it is "corrupt central American etc countries can use it instead of their own currency or the USD to avoid hyper inflation and also not allow the Americans to rob them by printing money and only spending it on themselves, diluting your currency" But there's no actual way of implementing that in reality, even, without giving the dictator or his cronies the keys to the crypto = he just rug pulls the country = scam again

tripsy420ish

Someone will say this, so why not me. Not your keys, not your coins. But that aside, I empathize with your skepticism of personal hardware wallets and the implications of self custody. But you can't just wing it if you have substantial value stored as BTC. This is ultimately tech based solution and knowledge about the tech is all that matters. If you become knowledgeable enough: - A, you will clearly understand that there are ways to secure your funds even when using untrusted wallets - B, you will gain confidence to self custody and be ready to deal with life situations as they come.

Upset-Guard383827

Given the Celsius/BlockFi history, I’d rank collateral architecture and liquidation mechanics above APR. A 10% loan with clean custody and predictable partial liquidation can be safer than a 7% loan with opaque collateral reuse. I’d also stress-test the position at a 50–60% BTC drawdown before borrowing anything. The ugly weekend is when the real terms matter.

crimeo

> The amount economically extractable from that does not automatically double because BTC’s market cap doubles. Of course it does. The more blocks are on the chain while you control it, and the more volume of coins in those blocks, and the more customers involved, the directly larger the volume of tokens you can double spend or people you can make side deals with. * You can't double spend anything unless someone is actually normally doing business in that amount and accepting crypto for stuff. Therefore the more people are doing business and the more is normally flowing, the more you can double spend. Completely linearly. * Other methods of extracting value also scale perfectly linearly. Like extortion for blacklisting people from blocks. If 10% of people on average are of the personality type and/or financial situation, and have enough interest in the blockchain, to be successfully intimidated into paying protection money or whatever you call it to not be blacklisted, then when the total number of users is 2x, that 10% of successful and motivated extortion targets is 2x larger * Same goes for taking money from censorship advocates to silence their enemies. If the whole economy is 2x larger, then there will be 2x more such people ethically willing and financially able to pay the asked price for censoring others, so you can profit 2x from that. > An attack itself destroys the value/liquidity you are trying to extract. Based on what do you believe this? if everyone's using some coin for the whole economy, they can't just switch suddenly. It's baked into the infrastructure. They have no choice. They will maybe in months down the line when legislation and institutions have time to slowly adjust, but you will have been making out like a bandit the whole time. > it also means security, governance power and capital ownership are more tightly coupled. Nope. You're not wrong that governance power is tightly linked to security, but you're completely wrong that it's even 1% "more so" than in PoW. Those two things are exactly as tightly linked (as in: both quite tightly) in PoW and PoS. Governance in PoW is directly tied to hash power, because whether everyone moves over to a new protocol or whether anyone can threaten an attack if you don't do what they want, is directly tied to how many ASICs that bloc of people has control of. Which is... hash power. Which is security. 100% coupled. Yeah it also is in PoS, but so what? Nothing new. Nothing different. Both cases it's also 100% synonymous with capital ownership. Hash power is pretty much 1:1 with how many modern ASICs and kWh you have, which is your capital ownership. Again, PoS that's also true, sure, but no more so. They're both just the same in all of those respects, but one uses 2,000x less power for no actual drawbacks whatsoever. Pretty much any sentence you can write about "stake", you can just swap out "ASICs" for PoW, and the sentence will remain true. With the exception of itf you're talking about energy and pollution.

nassauboy9

Only 2 things sell. This is for any product, idea ... anything 1. SEX (directly or alluding to it, appealing to desire to have) 2. FEAR (if you don't have it or do it ... the pain could be too great) When in my corporate job, and want a PO signed ... approach with one of these two principles. Same with BTC (its no different)

Romanizer

The “linear” part is the assumption doing all the work here. A 51% attacker does not crack a safe containing some percentage of Bitcoin’s market cap. They gain temporary control over block ordering: censorship, reorgs and potentially double-spending their own payments. The amount economically extractable from that does not automatically double because BTC’s market cap doubles. It usually is zero. There is no incentive for an attack. An attack itself destroys the value/liquidity you are trying to extract. PoW anchors consensus to an external resource that cannot be created inside the system: specialized hardware, energy and physical infrastructure. PoS anchors consensus to ownership of the system’s own native asset. That is vastly more energy-efficient, but it also means security, governance power and capital ownership are more tightly coupled. So the trade-off is structural: PoW buys external, physically costly security at the price of energy consumption; PoS buys efficiency by making the asset itself the security resource and accepting more dependence on stake distribution, validator economics and social coordination in exceptional cases. Combined with the fact that every PoS coin has a central committee or company, it makes it unsuitable for Cryptocurrency. I mean, what's your opinion on this: why has PoS failed in general?

bjm3384

You can put the $3k for better use by mining BTC and then holding those profits. Essentially the $3k will pay for the BTC and a lot more https://gomining.com/?ref=MINEWITHPURPLE

Bulky-Technician-979

No, I never played there. That address appeared much later in the transaction chain, after the BTC had already been mixed with many other funds. I mentioned it only as part of the trail, not as proof that the casino was involved in the theft.

juniperbit

Strike or River App to buy BTC. You’ll need your ID. After 1k valued in BTC I recommend you move your funds to a cold wallet, Bitkey or Ledger, you can buy it on Amazon

AromaKachu

Probably more infrastructure around actually using BTC, not just holding it. We’re still pretty early when it comes to areas like lending, yield, and other financial applications built around native BTC.

Swimnbud

Honest question, I have a fair amount of BTC in BlueWallet. What do the techies in the chat think of that for security?

AromaKachu

I like that distinction. “Early” doesn’t necessarily mean cheap anymore, it can also mean early in terms of global adoption and utility. BTC still has plenty of room to find new roles in finance, like native staking, collateral, lending, and other ways to generate value from BTC...

uuewy

although, if enough people believe the cycle is broken, it will actually break. my guess is the swings will dimish over time as long-term appreciation becomes more widely recognized. eventually, most people won't event bother trying to time it. bitcoin will become a safe and boring inflation hedge, and all other asset valuations will be in terms of BTC.

offline212

After 2 missed cycles I learned my lesson and will only invest in BTC in this cycle. 2025 was a eye opener. I don't think there will be a run like 2021 anymore, because there are to many alts. In 2017,2021, you had a few thousand alts, but now there are millions. I can be wrong offcourse, but I can't afford to lose so much money every cycle, so only BTC now. I prefer a 3x then just gamble and being broke for another 4 years.

quintavious_danilo

If you absolutely have to invest in alts, look at some of the more stable coins like BNB, TRX, MKR (SKY) and HYPE. They basically all weather the current bear market pretty strong and are not 80-99% from ATH, like so many other alts. TRX didn’t even have a bear market, which shows incredible strength. Imagine what it can do once BTC goes into bull mode again.

AromaKachu

If these products are mostly built for whales and institutions, there’s still a lot of room to make BTC yield and lending more accessible to regular holders and institutions too. I’ll take a closer look once the one I mentioned actually launches.

zampe

Not everything is a conspiracy. Its more that we are now 5 years out from crypto blowing up in the mainstream and having every opportunity to prove itself useful and valuable and it failed. Now we just have the remaining cult members unwilling to move on. Im still holding onto some BTC but not holding my breath for anything interesting to happen.

Gangaman666

Shitcoins definitely are, I hate them. But BTC isn't.

iloverunning11

Nope you will have many speculators as long as crypto is a novelty (will be the case for at least a century) so BTC will definitely not go to 0 (most altcoins will though) and this does not mean there is any real value because there is none. Even real transactions are peanuts and only a little part of the overall volume (real transactions are e.g. products bought for BTC in El Salvador and transfer of BTC to family members or friends etc. who can’t accept fiat)

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

The cash reserve is for paying the dividend obligations. It’s already earmarked. It’s really simple: They issued STRC and bought BTC with it. They told us how much that increased Bitcoin per share by. Now Bitcoin per share is less than what it was before they started issuing STRC. This means STRC has permanently decreased their Bitcoin per share from what they’ve issued so far. Future issuance can increase it again, but what they’ve already issued is now at a permanent loss.

mataglius

Hackers cannot "target" a wallet's public transactions, just by having a public key. That does not tell them anything. That's the whole point of entropy. The probability of hitting a seedphrase with actual BTC in it is practically zero, unless something happens that reduces the entropy that generated that seedphrase, like what happened to coldcard. Now, wallets with a good passphrase attached to it would have been defended by the attack, because hackers would have seen an "empty" wallet and probably leave it alone.

Elektroprodukt

I hold my BTC on three different exchanges. If one gets hacked, I’ll still have 2/3 of my BTC left. I have an Trezor Model T, but I haven’t open the box yet. I don’t trust myself to be my own central bank.

Serenaded

these are pretty much the only established non-scam, non-VC centralised slop coins, I wouldn't recommend anyone go further than BTC or ETH either if the goal is long term wealth.

maxcoiner

Thankfully we can all cross borders with light, hot wallets on our phone that don't have much money in them. Of course if you're in the rare scenario where you have to flee your country with your life savings, it's a different story. Back in 2013 I took a Ledger with me all the way across Asia with $50k in BTC on it, back when no one knew what a ledger was yet. I was lucky. Today I wouldn't take a HWW with me at all unless it looked just like a standard USB jump drive. (And these days they'd probably want to clone its' contents if they saw that.) So note to anyone making HWWs: Make them look like USB drives for stealth! (And put a tiny misleading Rubberhose data chip in it to throw feds off the scent if they sneakily try to read or clone it.)

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

> The only distinction is that if bitcoin is down or flat for many years in a row, then eventually the bleeding of bitcoin becomes nearly unrecoverable at some point This is the point I’m making. It’s already happened, it’s unrecoverable after just a year. And it happened because they executed incredibly poorly. They issued STRC IPO at $90 and bought BTC at 117k But they then raised cash to support the dividend after BTC had dropped into the 60k range. This means they’ve already lost Bitcoin per share on the STRC IPO, which means it doesn’t matter what BTC compounds at, they already have less than they started with. Can future STRC issuance grow Bitcoin per share? Yes, but the current batch they’ve issued is already a detriment to Bitcoin per share and will keep decreasing it forever.

JustIceberg

You’re conflating institutional exposure with proprietary investment. Most of that BTC is held by the fund on behalf of investors, not as an investment on the institution’s own balance sheet.

vortexcortex21

It's the biggest cope ever to in some way excuse their sale of BTC.

_alkoshi_

I think your core point is right. At this point Strategy looks less like a BTC treasury and more like a leveraged Bitcoin degen. They raised expensive capital, bought BTC, and now have a large recurring $ cost attached to that position. Once they start selling BTC below cost to fund preferred dividends, any later purchase at a higher price just raise the real break-even higher as the realized loss is already locked in. Their published average BTC cost also misses the picture, because every year another $1B+ of preferred dividends has to be funded somehow. So BTC doesn’t just need to get back above Strategy’s purchase price, it needs to get there fast enough. If BTC goes sideways or even drops, time itself starts working against MSTR holders. I'm not sure how much time they have left until they can become liquidated to be honest.

Quiet-Willingness724

This means BTC prices will crash.

scoobiedoobiedoh

I've been pondering this plan: \- 3 x yubikeys with pgp keys genenerated on device. be sure to get a strong PIN on each device \- sign and encrypt the seed words to all 3 devices ( single message or 1 message per device ) \- disperse the 2 of the 3 yubikeys to friends / family. they don't need to know its for BTC \- The encrypted message should be safe to store in multiple places, since it's already encrypted. This obviously doesn't solve succession planning as you are still the only one who can decrypt the message, but you can at least survive a total loss event of your home.

Doctor_Fritz

People here just posting memes. The company utilized the money of this BTC sale to manage ongoing corporate financing requirements, notably making preferred stock dividend payments and covering financing costs. They are also repurchasing shares (such as its STRC preferred shares) as part of a broader shift to adjust its capital structure and bolster cash reserves. While Saylor has famously championed a "never sell" mentality for individual investors, he has clarified that his personal stance is distinct from a publicly traded company's treasury strategy. Strategy's updated treasury framework allows it to leverage its massive Bitcoin reserves as liquid capital when necessary to support corporate operations, manage cash flow, and service security holders. They retain a large cash reserve to prevent liquidation.

stefansilva_xrp

Trump is a conman but a $2T asset cant be seen as a unserious investment environment the use case of BTC is still alibe

DrGrungy

& people on here "Reddit" continue to lead others to BTC! It will not be used for much, if nothing at all. A bunch of bots is what it is.

Doctor_Fritz

Definitely. Those that went through slumps like this are filling their bags ready for the next ath, at which point we'll just DCA out again when everyone is talking about how BTC went up 200% since right now. It's funny how so many are this short sighted.

Previous_Valuable873

Then tether collapses and sub10k territory, essentially having BTC, ETH and XMR as 3 cryptos, the rest will be eradicated.

LinusVPelt

They increased the cash reserves to pay for the obligations. As long as they are able to pay their obligations, the company cannot fail. So by selling BTC, the company will be able to meet their obligations for a longer period. The only way they can go bankrupt is if their BTC holdings go below their total obligations, which should happen with a BTC price of 8k for the convertible notes only, and 27k for the total liabilities + preferred stocks. The key debt is the convertible notes, because they are bonds and must be paid back. If they didn't sell BTC now, they would have less reserves and therefore reach the moment where they won't be able to meet their obligations faster.

daily-trader-365

Nope BTC only

CampApprehensive8733

I sold my BTC at 2k because I was a poor student and needed money...

Dependen212

Arch is hands down the most solid crypto lending platform I've used, mainly because of how they handle custody and margin calls. Had a loan with them since last spring, got margin called in the March dip, they emailed a warning, gave me 24 hours to top up, added some BTC and nobody touched my position. Collateral sits at Anchorage (actual chartered bank), no rehypothecation, interest just accrues til maturity so no monthly payments. Rates were 8ish% when I started, low 7s now. Ledn is probably fine too but after Celsius I only care about who holds the keys, and Arch answered that better than anyone else.

AvailableTie6834

nope, because in Brazil we have a lot of caveats to onramp :) Also, I receive some of my salary in BTC. The Gov knows shit about me.

shleebs

BTC Sessions was the biggest shill for Cold Card out there. Not only that, he positioned himself against core developers with the whole spam debate. Take my downvote!

BainTrain55

It’s pretty remarkable how this BTC cycle is copying 2022 cycle almost to the exact date. Between August 12-19 2022 BTC dropped 7.7%. Watch how it will follow suit.

EarningsPal

Plenty of people will be discovering their missing BTC in the next bull run. Because they will miss all the headlines about the hack.

dj_destroyer

If you have one in your house and one in your safety deposit box, if either burns down, you immediately go to the other and move your BTC to another address.

devCheckingIn

Started off well, but BTC tumbling brought it back down. Can't escape the selling pressure triggered from BTC's moves.

XXsforEyes

Maybe, that is the case for some. Personally, my conviction is based on the way I have educated myself in BTC vs. each of the other asset classes. I know what I’m holding and, more importantly, why. It also relates to time horizon, I’ve watched the inflationary practices of the fiat system my whole life. If I wanted my savings to lose value over time, Fiat would be the ultimate comfort to me, but I don’t. With that in mind, I have not found a better asset class to match my time preference.

Electronic_Quote399

Honestly, if you're new, usually the move is to stick to top 10 crypto at first. If you really want to try meme coins though, check in whatever app youre using for a section where it says "trending" or "new". Look at the all time charts. Most of them launch, pump initially, developers take their money and get out, the coin will crash astronomically. Most of them never come back to all time highs, once in a while, one of them will, but there will still be price activity at the bottom. Its very tough to analyze whether they will bounce back a bit, or just keep slow bleeding out. It's probably 95% luck. If i were you, I would choose a couple from the top 10 that you want to build a position on. Keep the bulk of your investment there. I like ether, solana, hyperliquid. Btc is usually a staple too, but not for me. So, if you have a few thousand to invest, for example, I would go with something like, $1000 BTC, $1000 ETH, $750 SOL, $500 HYPE... then, if you choose a meme coin, keep it between $20-$50. That way, if the price nukes, no big loss, but if it has a crazy 2000% run, you can still catch the upside and make a few hundred. You got a few different types. Btc makes up over half the total crypto market cap, so its king, everything follows it to a point. Then you have your well established utility coins like ether and sol, which are pretty safe bets when it comes to crypto. If you want lower cap utility tokens which have more potential upside, you can check out coins like Keeta or Morpho, those are projects that aim for network usage and utility, but are still small enough that they can massively fail, or they can see explosive gains if they catch on. You have to be careful when choosing low cap utilities, there are SO many of them, most of them are gonna be duds, so aim for the ones with goals and partnerships that you like. Keeta is partnering with LayerZero, and they are trying to tokenize real world assets like gold and oil for the UAE. Morpho has a crazy disproportionate amount of value locked on chain, and they just partnered with coinbase to make their DeFi lending protocol seamless and easy. Thats why I like them, but they're still risky plays. Meme coins are a completely different category. They operate on traders and hype alone. All gamblers. Now that doesnt mean you cant make money off them, but it does mean they aren't a long term investment. If you make profit on one, lock it in, sell a good portion of your tokens. Don't round trip them. Watch them closely, develop a strategy, and dont risk too much.

hodler1992

For an open-source, privacy-focused service, I’d target places where Bitcoiners already actively look for things to spend sats on rather than just generic crypto directories. The strongest options right now are: BTC Map — especially good if there is any real-world/local aspect to your service. It’s open-source and built around businesses accepting Bitcoin. � BTC Map Cryptwerk — probably one of the most useful general directories for an online service. It specifically lists websites and services where users can pay with Bitcoin, and it currently offers a free listing tier. � cryptwerk.com +1 Spendabit — worth submitting to. They explicitly have a business directory for service companies such as hosting providers, not only physical products. � spendabit.co +1 BitcoinWide — another directory for online and offline businesses accepting Bitcoin. � bitcoinwide.com Nostr — not really a conventional directory, but potentially much more valuable for you. The overlap between Nostr users, Bitcoiners, privacy advocates and open-source people is huge compared with mainstream social networks. Bitcoin/Lightning commerce is already part of the Nostr ecosystem. � The Bitcoin Manual For your particular project, I actually wouldn't make the marketing message merely “we accept Bitcoin.” That's not unusual enough anymore. I'd push something closer to: Open source. Privacy first. No surveillance. Pay with Bitcoin. And if you accept Lightning, make that extremely obvious. Cryptwerk even maintains a separate Lightning merchant section, which tells you that people actively search specifically for Lightning-enabled services. � cryptwerk.com The other thing I'd do is post the project itself rather than advertise it like a company. Something along the lines of “I built this privacy-focused open-source service, Bitcoin/Lightning is supported, here's the GitHub repo — I'd love feedback from Bitcoiners.” That approach will generally land much better in places like r/Bitcoin, Nostr, BitcoinTalk and relevant self-hosting/privacy communities than conventional promotional copy. And here's the slightly sneaky bit 😄: give Bitcoin users a small BTC-only incentive. Something like 5–10% cheaper when paying in Bitcoin/Lightning, or an extra feature/usage allowance. You're currently asking a fiat user to change payment habits for no tangible benefit. Give them a reason to click the ₿ button. For a privacy service specifically, I'd prioritize Nostr → relevant Bitcoin Reddit communities → Cryptwerk → Spendabit → BitcoinWide, in roughly that order. The privacy/open-source angle is probably going to acquire you more Bitcoin users than merely appearing in fifty crypto directories. If you tell me what the service actually does, I can also suggest the specific Bitcoin/Privacy/Nostr communities where I'd launch it and how I'd word the post without making it sound like spam.

Remarkable_Wish_5106

They don't directly own any BTC as far as I know of, they do offer a BTC ETF for investors.

thatoldtimerevision

If they messed up the entropy rng, what else did they mess up? Do you know? Are you willing to bet your BTC on it? It's all risk, no reward. There's no reason to ever touch a CC again.

ahoysharpie

Serious question: where did the money come from to reimburse BTC when Mt. Gox went under? I know users got paid from that like a decade after it happened

Oheson

STRC is a company, not a person. Two different objectives. Saylor has never sold any of his personal BTC.

toddgak

They do keep your BTC safe if you can randomly generate a private key.

ericgriffin93

Adoption certainly not looking like we imagined it would 😅 We're waiting for the tipping point, we're getting grandma navigating a BTC Depot like a Wells Fargo ATM. But honestly, this should be considered more of a meaningful snapshot for adoption than we're giving it credit for...

Cryptomuscom

Fiat forces everyone to be a money manager, but BTC alone won't fix human nature

c0dewerks

A BTC maxi told me in 2021: "Alt coins exist to take your Bitcoin." Oversimplified, yes. But not entirely incorrect depending on your thesis. Disclaimer: I hold alts + BTC, and also made some unfortunate swaps like OP.

GilbyGlibber

I thought he started STRC to fund BTC purchases, not the other way around 

WestJobs

Many won’t get it because they’re not disciplined enough in their investment or they’ve got a really good buffer of cash that makes their BTC investment truly disposable. I made a similar choice recently and I’m able to actually treat myself to new things whilst still being financially responsible. Not everyone gets this and they should know that that’s okay

Iapetus404

chill is just -50%. usually BTC go down 70-80% every bear cycle! but every bull run goes up from all time high. This cycle bottom was 18K and all time high 126K. Just relax and wait!

The_Roaring_Fork

Look at all of the non BTC though

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

Tight-Adhesiveness46

BTC holding above 64k with this much macro noise this week feels more like consolidation than conviction. Curious if anyone's reading the volume differently.

whisperedstate

Talks about how this forum gives terrible advice. Proceeds to provide terrible advice to buy BTC "because it's always gone up in the past". Well at least it makes your thesis consistent.

StackingSats1300

I have one - nothing BTC related in it as it's a giant honeypot for a thief's attention. Take my gun, take my cash, ignore the other stuff hidden elsewhere.

Last_Ad_301

Exactly! It's called 'rotation'. What most institutional investors do on the daily. Not everyone has a religious devotion to BTC and will rotate out into better performing investments.

cucurucu007

BTC support?

Fortune_Donut7432

It's a question of patience. But I feel like people don't see BTC as the main thing, people see cryptocurrencies and investment possibilities.

mrjune2040

Most people don’t understand how most things work in the world, especially the most commonplace inventions. It’s good that it’s shifted from the ideological (which was always problematic for BTC imo as it bordered on something quasi-religious at times) and into the democratic hoi polloi in terms of uptake.

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

Because they already have less Bitcoin per share than before they started selling STRC. That means STRC is already a failure for shareholders. The whole point of issuing STRC was that Bitcoin would grow faster than the dividend payments so you can increase Bitcoin per share. Since they bought BTC at 80k+ and waited until it dropped to 60k before raising 3 years of cash reserves, they’ve actually decreased their Bitcoin per share. So it doesn’t matter what Bitcoin grows at from this point, it’s already a net loss. All that Bitcoin growth does is decrease how much more they lose.

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

Because they already have less Bitcoin per share than before they started selling STRC. That means STRC is already a failure for shareholders. The whole point of issuing STRC was that Bitcoin would grow faster than the dividend payments so you can increase Bitcoin per share. Since they bought BTC at 80k+ and waited until it dropped to 60k before raising 3 years of cash reserves, they’ve actually decreased their Bitcoin per share. So it doesn’t matter what Bitcoin grows at from this point, it’s already a net loss. All that Bitcoin growth does is decrease how much more they lose.

anymonero

BTC has 100% lost its vibe when it was adopted by wallstreet and bankers. It's all just boring price speculation now, all the crypto anarchists moved to Monero.

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arielsskudra11

Only invest money you want to save for the long-term. There is no need to cut back on things you need in life, just so you can accumulate more BTC. I made that same mistake for years. DCAing can save you a lot of nerves and anxiety. After a while you even stop caring and stop checking the price every minute

TheBitcoin21

Well I recently completed 1 bitcoin. Tbh, I was kinda in the same situation: I was so orange-pilled that it seemed I was just living to accumulate btc. I'm pulling the paddle of the gas as know I'm not going to touch this 1 btc for decades. Now, I'll live a little outside just accumulation. I know how deep one can get into this because BTC simply is one of a kind experiment/asset in the human race!!

WelcomeCommon3144

https://preview.redd.it/kt0jj6j20qih1.jpeg?width=577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5788f644bad6fe7e664e78a134c86ddd7eb87d9e Tokenomics is the same as BTC , just 2 decimals instead of 8.

Particular_Yard_2460

> it's BTC and LBTC only What about the LGBTC? Doesn't seem very inclusive.

Classic-Charity-2179

"Best" is like "optimized": it's meaningless without the "for" statement. Like a number is meaningless without a unit.  Coldcard was certainly the best BTC wallet... For performing a retirement attack...

Elistheman

No trust. My CC is in the drawer collecting dust. I can’t believe this was touted as the best BTC wallet.

KjHoveysLoveChild

Not even worth it anymore, unless you own a warehouse and can make enough BTC to pay for the power bill *and* make a profit...