BTC

HSuke

That's 2.7% inflation, which is far less inflation than Bitcoin has had on average so far. (It wasn't until 2020 that BTC dropped under 3% inflation)

Financial_Vanilla_47

Nah you are just in denial that this is a miner capitulation and strategy/ETF insolvency driven breakdown because you won't admit it until it starts to actually happen but it probably won't happen until BTC is below 30k and by then it's too late and only the people who admit and and move on at some point survive.

Academic_Attorney996

Don't feel bad. Apple, Amazon,Microsoft, and Google have ZERO Bitcoin !!! Pathetic. Meanwhile, Michael Saylor accumulates 4,871 BTC today!!

ElanInsights

and remember u/Suguha_chan, you may not have to sell your BTC anyway - collateralized loans are already here, more on the way. That saves you plenty of sats otherwise spent in cap gains taxes (depending on where you live).

FoundationNo6368

Mail me your harddrive and I'll get the BTC out and give it to you free of charge.

ElanInsights

Thanks for calling it out u/Bac0ngh0st It's a mock setup of "average investor" holdings distribution (note - I'm not a financial advisor, so the allocations are very arguable). BTC starts as the underdog and wins by miles....!

senditFrmU2M

When everyone hates BTC, miners are hurting, liquidations spike, and volume explodes—that’s capitulation. We’re not there yet. Kept it simple

CoughxDropz

Is today Bitcoin day or something? CashApp gave me free BTC saying it was.

beatbopfun

as long we the globe keep printing money, BTC will go up

KingKetsa

Congrats on flexing 100k and not 1 BTC lol

LeagueLost

Worse is staying in dollars that keeps dropping value. Sound like you don't still understand BTC. It's not a trade but a long HODL.

ElanInsights

Superb info u/InvestAISavvy . Have you done any research / analysis on whale % growth of total BTC outstanding? I'm more anxious about BTC takeover (they don't have to control all 21m to control it!), than quantum breakage.

Turbulent_Deal_3145

Then don't buy 100,000 of bitcoin all at once. I don't know what your overall financial situation is, in the sense that I don't know if 100k is your life savings or if its pennies to you. It's a significant portion of your savings then you should not be spending it all on bitcoin period. 5% max is sensible - although lets be real. Not many people on this sub are sensible when it comes to investment allocation. Personally I'm sitting at 12 or 15% BTC and even I find that too much. And it's for the exact reason you cited. Speculative assets are volatile. My bitcoin has lost just shy of half its value this year so far. That sucks. But it doesn't suck nearly as much as if I was all in. And that's why you have to use moderation when it comes to buying bitcoin or anything like bitcoin.

ElanInsights

Thanks for the feedBac! ;) Anser: b/c I wanted it to be real world for the avg investor placing only a 5% bet. The goal of the post is to turn window shoppers into HODLERS. Vision> millions of HODLERS keeps BTC well distributed. Maybe a post on that later!

Calm-Professional103

Are you referring to the Purpose BTC ETF?

Comfortable-Rule-491

This thread didn’t start good. 2 big red candles on BTC/ETH

zeroq26

I was browsing the Internet forums and I came across the BTC forum, and Satoshi was chatting with other people about BTC. I was just reading chats and thinking about buying this, what if I get scammed, so I didn't. After that I forgot about it.

Christavito

When realistically it's somewhere in between. Perhaps BTC becomes less volatile in the future and experiences a relatively moderate growth at 8%. Assuming they're around 30, By the time they reach retirement age, they could be sitting at around $820K. Combine that with Social security, and additional cash savings and they are able to avoid lifestyle creep they might have enough to retire.

Designer-Beginning16

Buy 1 BTC now. Wait until it drops to $35k to buy a 2nd BTC then.

LiveNLearn3

I agree. BTC to zero! Just look at that sell model 🤗

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Circle, the issuer of USDC, announced cirBTC, a wrapped bitcoin token backed 1:1 by BTC and verifiable onchain. Designed for DeFi, OTC platforms, market makers, and lending protocols, cirBTC will launch first on Arc and Ethereum and integrate with Circle’s infrastructure, including Circle Mint. Circle says it aims to offer an institutional-grade bitcoin standard to compete with products like WBTC and Coinbase’s cbBTC. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; MARA Holdings, formerly Marathon Digital, sold nearly 33% of its Bitcoin holdings—about $1.1 billion—while framing the move as debt reduction and a strategic pivot to AI and energy infrastructure. The company, which controls about 5% of total BTC hashrate, still holds roughly $2.3 billion in Bitcoin. The article suggests the shift may reflect financial strain, citing 15,000 layoffs and broader crypto market liquidity pressures. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Hyperliquid trader James Wynn was liquidated for the sixth time in two weeks after another 40x leveraged Bitcoin short was wiped out during BTC’s rally. On-chain trackers said Wynn’s once-massive trading account has fallen from a $1.26 billion notional BTC long in 2025 to sub-$200,000 positions, with more than 200 total liquidations overall. The article frames Wynn’s collapse from PEPE-era trading star to cautionary example of extreme leverage risk. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Strategy, formerly MicroStrategy, bought 4,871 BTC for about $329.9 million at an average price of $67,718 per coin, according to an SEC filing. The purchase brings its total Bitcoin holdings to 766,970 BTC, acquired for roughly $58.02 billion at an average cost of $75,644 per BTC. Executive Chairman Michael Saylor said the company remains committed to its long-term Bitcoin “hodl” treasury strategy. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

MCL-Jonathan

Short answer: depends on time, not just amount. 0.5 BTC today? Probably not enough yet. 0.5 BTC in the future (if adoption continues)? Very different story. [Bitcoin retirement](https://youtu.be/2f7eumxe-zM)

na3than

Of course you can. No one's going to stop you from retiring just because you have 0.5 BTC. Heck, I bet they wouldn't stop you even if you have 2 or 3.

eckstuhc

Most definitely. You can even retire on 0.01 BTC. Look at my cousin, he’s broke, don’t do shit.

bbatardo

It all comes down to time. Even if BTC hits any of those numbers, if you are dead it doesn't matter lol.

LiquidityCompass

Depends less on the number and more on timing tbh. 0.5 BTC in a strong liquidity cycle could look very different than 0.5 BTC in a tight one. People focus on how much,but the environment usually matters more than the amount. Question is… are you planning to live off it or just hold and wait for better conditions?

mrjune2040

Context of your age and where you live is everything. As an example the median yearly US household income equals 1.2 BTC so you do the math on that one (ie hell no). Maybe in a nation with relatively low incomes/purchasing power, but even that's pushing it.

InvestAISavvy

The institutional bid for BTC right now is interesting. Strategy just bought another $330M worth and the social data I track shows the "safe haven" narrative is about 25% of all BTC discussion right now. That's a huge shift from even a month ago when it was mostly price speculation. AltRank just dropped to 2, which means BTC is outperforming almost everything in crypto on a social momentum basis. The thing that keeps me watching is BTC dominance at 58.6% while total crypto market cap is still way off highs. Money is flowing to BTC specifically, not crypto broadly. That's a flight to quality pattern within the asset class.

PossessionJust5723

Definitely, but there are actually two requirements: 1) .5 BTC, 2) $5,000,000 trust fund.

brandon_cabral

Depends on country and time horizon. Pretty sure you can’t retire anywhere today with 0.5 BTC

bbatardo

Doubtful. Even if BTC hits 1 million someday, could you retire on 500k? Maybe if you already own a house, have no debt, etc lol.

DistributionOwn8708

I hesitated buying during the first ATH peak of corona and then after not looking into BTC for some time it suddenly was at 90k

ConciousOrange

It’s sickening to think of the amount me and my friend bought worth of BTC just to buy some flower from USA at the time 😭

Zestyclose-Suit-2858

Are you suffering from the 'main character syndrome' in other parts of your life? Your 100k doesn't mean anything to any market. :) If you're ready to enter the BTC market, go ahead and come on in. Don't wait. Or do wait: if you are not yet conviced.

EyesFor1

Wanna bet ? If you're certain, short BTC at the moment you buy it.

wkndatbernardus

Price is irrelevant if you are stacking because you believe BTC is good for humanity.

tcool

I added a live BTC price line at the top!

bitusher

they also sent me an email with the reward amount saying 0.00007197 BTC for Happy Bitcoin Day 🙂 perhaps its delayed ?

PuzzleheadedBell4057

2017. Reading various articles. I didn't know much about Bitcoin but thought it was something I should be adding to my portfolio. Found out the brokerage I was using at the time (E-Trade) provided a BTC trust that I could invest in (Grayscale GBTC - it's an ETF now) for exposure. DCAed into the trust for about a 1-1/2 years while I learned the ins and outs of BTC. Moved to cold storage in 2019.

BudaHodl

Would ya buy BTC at 35k? I am. Would ya buy it at 135k? I am.

FromThePits

Absolutely, no doubt about it ... but the problem is how tricky it will be to hold on to those BTC through thick and thin, and through several generations. Once you or your children sell some, it becomes very hard to regain a decade later. This accumulates until there's nothing or very little left to pass on. An experience I think we all can agree on. Many in this sub has regretful memories about exactly this.

hawkeye224

You can get 0.5-1 BTC now and wait a bit/DCA the rest

Historical_Candle511

I bought $10.01 of BTC on CashApp, but didnt see the free $5 worth land.

ReconeHelmut

I won an online poker tournament and the prize was in BTC.

laner4646

If you properly invest an amount of fiat money equal to 1 BTC for 100 years you will have generational wealth.

Galavanta

Yeah, just sticking with DCA here too. people get spooked on the swings but btc still leaves the S&P in the dust if you zoom out even a little. Collateralizing BTC for real assets is coming faster than anyone expects, banks will just follow the flows. I just use aΙphasquared's risk to size in properly. It's pretty low right now. Whatever the noise is, it barely matters. You can't kill BTC, only stress test it.

IInsulince

I think the issue here OP is that you are being a bit too opaque in what you’re trying to say. I think I get the idea that if you hold 1 BTC, then for some given year, it will take [x hours] of the worlds mining pool to create that same amount of BTC. Obviously beyond 2140 that number goes to infinity since mining no longer creates new bitcoin. But as for the numbered “generation share” figure? No idea what this means, or why the numbers never change between the years. I think you should edit to clarify some things, otherwise folks gonna keep misunderstanding the same way I am.

FromThePits

To insure as many third parties as humanly possible gets access to your familys private BTC keys. /s

adambencloutier

I’d have a black XRP one or grey LTC, I think testing concepts with the big ones (SUI/blue, SOL/purple, alongside your really neat BTC ones).

wancruz

It’s evolving. Trustless Bitcoin Vaults provide a path for BTC to participate in decentralized finance while remaining fully secure in the user’s hands. DYOR

fedenah

When you pay with BTC you actually don't.

dj_destroyer

If you assume BTC goes back to a new ATH -- for example $150k -- what would you expect the share price of MSTR to go up to? Would the stock also top it's previous ATH (\~$455) due to the tight correlation with BTC price? Or would it perhaps not reach the previous ATH due to issuance of new stock/dilution?

wancruz

There are use cases, they are just evolving. BTC can be used as collateral, for lending, borrowing, and other BTCFi applications while staying fully under the user’s control.

mashem

[Cryptocurrency in the second Trump presidency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_in_the_second_Trump_presidency) (aggregate page for convenience, more sources within) There's so damn much to mention, here's the short of it. $BTC * TMTG, the parent company of Truth Social, diversified into a financial technology company in January 2025 and announced in May that it would sell shares and bonds to raise **$2.5 billion to create a Bitcoin stockpile**. $WLFI - also includes stablecoin $USD1 (this happened late 2025) * Trump and some of his family members own 60 percent of the holding company that owns World Liberty Financial ($WLFI). As of Aug 2025, the Trump family had gained $412.5 million. * Prior to inauguration, * The Trump family also receives [75% of net proceeds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens) when WLFI sells tokens, as well their $USD1 stablecoin. * March 2025, After Indo-Pakistani conflict broke out, WLF signed a letter of intent to incorporate blockchain technology into Pakistani financial organizations. The Pakastani general flattered Trump by nominating him for a Nobel Peace Prize that Trump is said to want because President Obama received one. * A UAE Royal Family now owns a 49 percent stake as of Jan 2025. * Shortly after Trump took office in 2025, Chinese billionaire Justin SunSun invested $30 million into World Liberty and an SEC investigation into him was subsequently dropped. In 2025, President Trump pardoned Changpeng Zhao, who had been convicted of anti-money-laundering compliance failures, after his company Binance had helped enrich World Liberty Financial. $USD1 ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens)) * In 2025, a firm associated with the Abu Dhabi government purchased $2 billion worth of $USD1 stablecoins. Shortly hereafter, the Trump administration approved a plan to give the UAE firm hundreds of thousands of advanced, scarce computer chips, despite national security concerns. * Truimp family earns a % of transaction fees from $USD1 $TRUMP * In January 2025, Trump launched the $Trump meme coin, earning between **$86–100 million** in trading fees in two weeks. * Peaking at $75.35 the day before inauguration (\~$15Billion total), the coin's value then declined. Creating a contest, Trump invited the top coin holders to a private dinner, bringing the coin's value back up 70%. By April, fees collected by entities affiliated with the Trump Organization whose stake is 80% totaled **$349 million**. * Price crashed to under $3. 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion $Melania * The launch of the $Melania token was partially handled by Hayden Davis, who later played a key role in orchestrating the [$Libra cryptocurrency scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$Libra_cryptocurrency_scandal). * Launched and primarily sold off, where a $2 million extraction was made by Davis from $Melania's liquidity pools, sending $1 million to exchanges via single-sided liquidity. $ETH * The few million he has disclosed so far. \------------------ As opposed to before.. \>In American president Donald Trump's first term, he had opposed cryptocurrency, calling it "not money" and "based on thin air".\[2\] He had told Fox Business in 2021 that Bitcoin "seems like a scam" to compete with the U.S. dollar. \>In the 2024 election, the cryptocurrency industry becoming the largest corporate donor, with $238 million—more than the oil, gas, and pharmaceutical lobbies.

mashem

[Cryptocurrency in the second Trump presidency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_in_the_second_Trump_presidency) (aggregate page for convenience, more sources within) There's so damn much to mention, here's the short of it. $BTC * TMTG, the parent company of Truth Social, diversified into a financial technology company in January 2025 and announced in May that it would sell shares and bonds to raise **$2.5 billion to create a Bitcoin stockpile**. $WLFI - also includes stablecoin $USD1 (this happened late 2025) * Trump and some of his family members own 60 percent of the holding company that owns World Liberty Financial ($WLFI). As of Aug 2025, the Trump family had gained $412.5 million. * Prior to inauguration, * The Trump family also receives [75% of net proceeds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens) when WLFI sells tokens, as well their $USD1 stablecoin. * March 2025, After Indo-Pakistani conflict broke out, WLF signed a letter of intent to incorporate blockchain technology into Pakistani financial organizations. The Pakastani general flattered Trump by nominating him for a Nobel Peace Prize that Trump is said to want because President Obama received one. * A UAE Royal Family now owns a 49 percent stake as of Jan 2025. * Shortly after Trump took office in 2025, Chinese billionaire Justin SunSun invested $30 million into World Liberty and an SEC investigation into him was subsequently dropped. In 2025, President Trump pardoned Changpeng Zhao, who had been convicted of anti-money-laundering compliance failures, after his company Binance had helped enrich World Liberty Financial. $USD1 ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens)) * In 2025, a firm associated with the Abu Dhabi government purchased $2 billion worth of $USD1 stablecoins. Shortly hereafter, the Trump administration approved a plan to give the UAE firm hundreds of thousands of advanced, scarce computer chips, despite national security concerns. $TRUMP * In January 2025, Trump launched the $Trump meme coin, earning between **$86–100 million** in trading fees in two weeks. * Peaking at $75.35 the day before inauguration (\~$15Billion total), the coin's value then declined. Creating a contest, Trump invited the top coin holders to a private dinner, bringing the coin's value back up 70%. By April, fees collected by entities affiliated with the Trump Organization whose stake is 80% totaled **$349 million**. * Price crashed to under $3. 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion $Melania * The launch of the $Melania token was partially handled by Hayden Davis, who later played a key role in orchestrating the [$Libra cryptocurrency scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$Libra_cryptocurrency_scandal). * Launched and primarily sold off, where a $2 million extraction was made by Davis from $Melania's liquidity pools, sending $1 million to exchanges via single-sided liquidity. $ETH * The few million he has disclosed so far. \------------------ As opposed to before.. \>In American president Donald Trump's first term, he had opposed cryptocurrency, calling it "not money" and "based on thin air".\[2\] He had told Fox Business in 2021 that Bitcoin "seems like a scam" to compete with the U.S. dollar. \>In the 2024 election, the cryptocurrency industry becoming the largest corporate donor, with $238 million—more than the oil, gas, and pharmaceutical lobbies.

mashem

US accepting it for 3 reasons: 1. Giving up fighting it and embracing US stablecoin to get money back connected to the treasury (Biden supposedly was fighting it) 2. Makes wartime spending and just secret spending in general so much easier. 3.Trump wants to be one of the richest men/families on the planet: [Cryptocurrency in the second Trump presidency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_in_the_second_Trump_presidency) (aggregate page for convenience, more sources within) There's so damn much to mention, here's the short of it. $BTC * TMTG, the parent company of Truth Social, diversified into a financial technology company in January 2025 and announced in May that it would sell shares and bonds to raise **$2.5 billion to create a Bitcoin stockpile**. $WLFI - also includes stablecoin $USD1 (this happened late 2025) * Trump and some of his family members own 60 percent of the holding company that owns World Liberty Financial ($WLFI). As of Aug 2025, the Trump family had gained $412.5 million. * Prior to inauguration, * The Trump family also receives [75% of net proceeds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens) when WLFI sells tokens, as well their $USD1 stablecoin. * March 2025, After Indo-Pakistani conflict broke out, WLF signed a letter of intent to incorporate blockchain technology into Pakistani financial organizations. The Pakastani general flattered Trump by nominating him for a Nobel Peace Prize that Trump is said to want because President Obama received one. * A UAE Royal Family now owns a 49 percent stake as of Jan 2025. * Shortly after Trump took office in 2025, Chinese billionaire Justin SunSun invested $30 million into World Liberty and an SEC investigation into him was subsequently dropped. In 2025, President Trump pardoned Changpeng Zhao, who had been convicted of anti-money-laundering compliance failures, after his company Binance had helped enrich World Liberty Financial. $USD1 ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Liberty_Financial?utm_source=chatgpt.com#:~:text=The%20Trump%20family%20receives%2075%25%20of%20net%20proceeds%20when%20WLFI%20sells%20tokens)) * In 2025, a firm associated with the Abu Dhabi government purchased $2 billion worth of $USD1 stablecoins. Shortly hereafter, the Trump administration approved a plan to give the UAE firm hundreds of thousands of advanced, scarce computer chips, despite national security concerns. $TRUMP * In January 2025, Trump launched the $Trump meme coin, earning between **$86–100 million** in trading fees in two weeks. * Peaking at $75.35 the day before inauguration (\~$15Billion total), the coin's value then declined. Creating a contest, Trump invited the top coin holders to a private dinner, bringing the coin's value back up 70%. By April, fees collected by entities affiliated with the Trump Organization whose stake is 80% totaled **$349 million**. * Price crashed to under $3. 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion $Melania * The launch of the $Melania token was partially handled by Hayden Davis, who later played a key role in orchestrating the [$Libra cryptocurrency scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$Libra_cryptocurrency_scandal). * Launched and primarily sold off, where a $2 million extraction was made by Davis from $Melania's liquidity pools, sending $1 million to exchanges via single-sided liquidity. $ETH * The few million he has disclosed so far. \------------------ As opposed to his last term \>In American president Donald Trump's first term, he had opposed cryptocurrency, calling it "not money" and "based on thin air".\[2\] He had told Fox Business in 2021 that Bitcoin "seems like a scam" to compete with the U.S. dollar. \>In the 2024 election, the cryptocurrency industry becoming the largest corporate donor, with $238 million—more than the oil, gas, and pharmaceutical lobbies. I can look up the other stuff later, this is some copy/paste from older stuff though and wanted to go ahead and get it to you.

Ge_Yo

A lot of people are hesitant because using bitcoin in a trustless and secure way is still tricky. Solutions like Babylon's TBVs show how BTC can be productive on-chain without compromising self-custody.

jayboogs69

So just OOC, how were you able to buy BTC as a 14yo, did you have access to your parents cc at the time? Or were u able to get the BTC some other way?

kawfeemeister0920

Perfect time to invest in BTC... Just make sure you understand about bitcoin before getting involved.

bitusher

Quick way to get free 30 usd in BTC if you have cash app (I just tested and it works) Looks like Jack with https://btc.day/square.html is paying 25 usd to spend btc with cash app from the 6th to 10th There are three ways to earn free bitcoin during Bitcoin Day. Each action earns you an instant bonus: 1) Buy 10 usd of BTC or more get 5 usd in btc 2) Pay with bitcoin (or Cash balance over Lightning) at a participating Square seller get 25 usd of btc 3) Withdraw (or buy) bitcoin from Cash App through the Bitkey app get 50 usd of btc (this is the one most wont do because almost no one uses that hardware wallet and personally I don't recommend this hardware wallet for most)

hoppeeness

I think they called out the mitigations they are testing and trying to implement…but it isn’t quantum safe yet. “Fortunately, there is a path to achieving post-quantum security for cryptocurrencies. PQC has become a mature cryptographic discipline: post-quantum cryptosystems have been proposed, scrutinized, implemented and deployed. 5 In fact, they are in active use protecting Internet traffic [61] and indeed securing blockchain transactions [62]. As we discuss in detail in later sections, some blockchains, such as the Quantum Resistant Ledger (QRL) [63, 64], Mochimo [65] and Abelian [66], rely exclusively on PQC. Others, such as Algorand, the XRP Ledger, and Solana, have made early experimental deployments of post-quantum protocols [62, 67]. However, forward-looking migration to PQC is not a panacea. Dormant digital assets, including those abandoned or inaccessible due to lost private keys, pose a distinct and critical challenge. We highlight the example of Bitcoin’s Pay-to-Public-Key (P2PK) locking scripts, which secure over 1.7 million BTC. The total amount of dormant quantum- vulnerable bitcoin may reach 2.3 million BTC when all script types are considered. Unlike active wallets that can migrate to new standards, dormant assets cannot be “fixed” via forks that enable PQC protocols for future transactions. They represent a fixed target — tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in value that will eventually become accessible to a quantum attacker. The community will soon face difficult, unprecedented decisions regarding the fate of these assets, forcing tradeoffs between the immutability of cryptographic property rights and the economic stability of the network.”

AmazingfurnitureCT

Everyday is a good day to buy BTC. Yes keep stacking no matter the price. It’s time in the market not timing the market so keep it going >>>>>>>>

Suspicious-Cut3237

Nobody can say with certainty if the price will dump further or not.. One thing that remains valid in either is however is that BTC is king. Every day is a new chance for you to stack more, use this to your advantage, DCA and don't overthink it

LordJamPunt

CashApp just launched a map that shows you places nearby that accept BTC.

CrAZiBoUnCeR

Had a dream that BTC dropped to $1 and I was able to buy a ton and then it started skyrocketing back to where we are now. In my dreams I’m a millionaire

inadyttap

I like it when BTC is above $70k

DependentAnalyst9109

If I end up needing it, it will be there. I am passing it down to my kids but I am also going to pass the knowledge of why they should never sell it. If anything use it as collateral. Why do I have to explain anything? Why would I sell something like BTC just to have dollars that are not worth anything and will be worth much less. It’s an asset, I will use it to acquire more assets. But I will not sell my coin just to have a large number of worthless dollars in a bank account. I’m never selling..

Supreme-Muffinator

It's never too late for BTC... Keep stacking!

Kurosaki56843

If you're into BTC for the long-run, you wouldn't have this issue. I put my money into BTC with the intent to use it as my pension fund one day. Leave the get rich quick mindset behind and you'll sleep better.

Kurosaki56843

Take this with a grain of salt, but things are probably about to get worse world-wide, which would likely bring the price further down. Don't know if it will be $40k, some are saying even $35k, but in general the most likely outlook is that BTC will drop below $60k

PrettyPleaseYo

I’m right there with you. Been studding the stock market and macro looks terrible, inverted yield curves, private credit rates, energy shock incoming, bubble behavior in AI etc. It looks like we should be in for a stock market correction which would pull BTC lower. However such a correction could come now or in two years. “The markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent” sort of thing. Crazy thing is we’ve never seen BTC or crypto in a big crash resession like 2001 or 2008 and that honestly scares me. My gut is telling me there will be a lower low. Have been in crypto for 10 years. I bought a bit here in the 60-70k which I think are good prices. My main allocation is still waiting for a drop though and I will start DCA again at 60k and down from there.

Jayrovers86

Low IQ BTC holders galore

Silly-Commission879

Borrowing against your BTC is like shorting it

bkx90

BTC is for long-term savings. If you use your savings regularly or youre saving for something in the near future then Btc is a terrible way to do it.

richardpraiz13

Welcome back! A lot has changed but the fundamentals of evaluating good projects haven't. The biggest mistake returning investors make is jumping in based on hype without doing proper research. A few things worth knowing: - BTC and ETH are still solid foundations - DeFi has matured a lot — protocols like Uniswap, AAVE and Curve have real revenue and years of track record - Always check TVL, tokenomics and team transparency before touching any altcoin I actually put together a complete token research framework covering exactly how to evaluate any crypto project before investing. Happy to share if useful..

Livid-Sundae-8994

I’m somewhere in the middle on this. I don’t really buy the “we *have* to nuke to $40k” thing, but I also don’t think institutional money suddenly means BTC can’t have brutal pullbacks anymore. Big buyers help, sure, but macro can still smack everything. Personally, I wouldn’t go all-in here if you’re already feeling unsure. That usually means the size is too big. I’d rather scale in and keep cash ready in case we do get that deeper dip. Way easier mentally than trying to force one perfect entry. Borrowing against BTC to buy more sounds good in theory, but that can get ugly fast if price moves against you. For me that’s the kind of strategy that looks smart in a thread and feels terrible in real time. So yeah, my take is basically: buy some if you believe in it, keep some dry powder, and don’t build the plan around needing price to cooperate.

dtg99

It is not about the bears “being right” literally zoom out on the chart. When BTC breaks the trend and goes bear it has always behaved the same. Historically there should be another leg down followed by sideways chop. If that doesn’t happen then BTC will be behaving unpredictably. That is it. You are betting for or against BTC following the same trend it always has.

Ok-Onion-5073

If you don’t want to stress over timing $70k vs $40k, that’s where something like CoinDepo fits. Keep BTC exposure, park a portion for fixed CeFi yield, earn passively, and wait without being forced into all‑in or all out decisions.

Fortknightdad2231

Trying to perfectly time this is where most people get stuck. If you believe in BTC long term, splitting entries (DCA + maybe a bit heavier on dips) usually beats going all-in or waiting for some “guaranteed” $40k that may never come. Also be careful with the idea of borrowing against BTC to buy more — it can work, but only if you stay conservative with LTV. Some use platforms like Nexo for that flexibility, but the risk ramps up fast if the market moves against you. No one knows the bottom, but having a plan matters more than guessing it.

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yatv

On CEX’s yeah… and since then it’s 4x in valued. God bless Haveno. Monero is what Bitcoin was when BTC still had real utility. The primary currency of onion/i2p markets has fully migrated to XMR

ChangeNOW_Community

every time the bank charges a fee, I just stare at my BTC wallet and smile

Think-Sector-6329

yea, that as my reaction too. The name makes it sound like some community-style BTC giveaway. but it ended up just like a promo funnel

ChampionshipMuch591

Getting back into trading but staying more disciplined. Less chasing pumps, more focus on solid setups. Using CoinDepo for steady BTC yield on the side while rebuilding. Passive income helps while waiting for better entries.

VeryThicknLong

Guy’s literally sold everything for BTC.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

I’ve seen this argument come up a lot and it always turns into a huge debate in my friend group lol. I get the point you’re making, like yeah it’s not a company, doesn’t produce cash flow, and there’s no underlying asset in the traditional sense. But at the same time, most of the people I know who buy BTC aren’t thinking of it like stocks or bonds anyway. It’s more like they see it as a network or a shared system people agree has value. Kinda similar to how we treat in-game items or even fiat to some extent. There isn’t something physical backing it 1:1, but people accept it, so it works within that system. Not saying that makes it “correct” or risk-free, we’ve had plenty of arguments about whether it’s all just hype. But I don’t think people are confused about investing in a company. It feels more like they’re betting on adoption and belief sticking around.

thupkt

LOL ppl be hyperventilating, BTC 160k by 2030? But Cathie Wood promised us $1.5MM at least!

OkBuddy5667

I clearly remember the legendary BTC faucet — there was no talk of any purchases to get a few satoshis. Now it’s an app promotion: buy $100 in BTC and get a small bonus. BIG SCAM Hackers, take down this site!

PuzzleheadedBell4057

So, you're gonna use it as collateral if you want (as per my original post) or you're gonna leave it to your legacy (passing on generational wealth or to create some other form of legacy) because you are NOT gonna be taking it with you. So if you are not gonna do any of these two things what is the point of investing if you're "never" gonna sell? Your arguments are not rational. BTW, I've been investing in BTC since 2017. Started in a trust (Greyscale GBTC when it was just a trust). Sold all, moved all to exchanges and all now in cold storage). DCAing on the 15th of every month for at least the next 5 years. Never sold anything yet, but I'm planning on selling some or all at some point in the future. See. That's rational.

AstralVenture

It’s always a good time to buy BTC.

Shaggy_Mango

1. Buy BTC on Cash App → ~$5 reward 2. Spend BTC with a Square merchant → ~$25 3. Withdraw to Bitkey wallet → ~$50 Just in case anybody wondered. $80 to buy into their entire ecosystem. Pretty cheap customer acquisition cost if you fall for it.

North-Cry-7815

Feels like momentum is building again, but calling it a “boom” might be early. BTC + ETF flows are strong signals, but macro (rates, regulation) still matters. Probably more of a gradual uptrend than instant hype cycle.

No-Wrap3568

Open source, BTC only cold wallet with no previous cases of hacks.

Necessary-Summer-348

The tax implications of switching from index funds to a BTC wrapper are rough unless you're already sitting on losses. If you believe in Bitcoin exposure, dollar cost averaging fresh capital avoids triggering cap gains while you transition. The real question is whether you want synthetic exposure through a fund structure or actual keys, because that changes the entire security and custody model.

ChangeNOW_Community

your prayers worked - $BTC at 70k

Designer-Beginning16

What amount would be a 100% safe stack to retire today without early depletion? (Realistically) 15 BTC, 20 BTC, 25 BTC?

Any_Coffee3847

Give meee 1FL422UKSnaTBu1GtFmq7dbQPG9S3jPC55 BTC🥹🙏