BTC

Backieotamy

Well, I mean we kind of had a mini-alt already. DOGE, SOL, XRP, ETH, KAS and others are up substantially from just a couple of months ago. To your point,, it could be fizzling out now or (to my hopes) between these cuts, the gigantic list of ETF's coming in October that I looked at last night, and BTC price decline, it could go parabolic. I dont pretend to know, but... I will invest according to historical patterns and those three are big items that tend to kick-off buying.

quietlydesperate90

The time to take a loan for BTC is after it's dropped 75%

aaaanoon

BTC dev?

Abject-Stretch-1187

Personally I think you’re hilarious. Do you actually want to bet a whole BTC? If we hit 40k, I’ll give you a BTC and if we don’t, you give me a BTC? 

Charming-Designer944

24 months is very short. There is no.guarantee that BTC is on + in 24 months. My confidence interval for 24 months is -30% to +80%

Dopest_Trip

This “fraud” said he was going to back the truck up once BTC dropped down to $17k/$18k. I took this “frauds” advice and did the same. I for one am grateful for this “fraud.”

partymsl

Bro, have seen the BTC price in the last 3 years?

pabloneruda

I think this is slightly flawed in that it assumes even distribution of coins across wallets. The problem is there aren’t 1.5M wallets with 1BTC

b1mm3rl1f3

Now 0.25% cheaper to borrow money to buy BTC

Doc_SaasFdr24

Me hoping for a little dip, to acquire another BTC 😝

Level-Music-3732

BTC

juanddd_wingman

LoL you mas bro ?. Go enjoy your ETH, I go enjoy my BTC. Kisses 😘

derbyfan1

Loan + Credit card + any other loans + Pay day loans + Boating accident + Lump in to BTC = Go 4 it.

National_Wear_6048

When inflation sets in, the price of BTC will continue to soar.

Ikki_The_Phoenix

I only hold BTC and some hyperliquid.

AutisticGayBear69

BTC ETH SOL in that order. $500, $250, $250 *Maybe* or XRP instead of SOL.

Supheus

Diversification is for people who don't know what they are doing. Best is to go for high conviction bets in a higher concentration. We are nearing the end of the bullmarket so I wouldn't expect life changing gains at this stage anymore. If you feel FOMO and can't wait for the bearmarket your best bet is BTC. It has outperformed most alts this cycle and will probably continue to do so. And you don't lose 99% of your investment forever, btc will most likely get back and go higher next cycle, some alts never recover. Ofcourse, this is NFA, but don't complicate it. You will see many people flexing gains with random coins and you will feel left out. Don't let greed get to you. Good luck

OGA_Blake

Proxies are definitely catching the tailwind at the moment. market conditions are becoming more and more friendly for BTC.

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MichaelAischmann

Next bull run? BTC is in an ongoing bull run since 2023.

GoldmezAddams

If you just want a sane long term buy-and-hold, BTC is the play.

BainTrain55

Doesn’t BTC go up when people buy on FOMO? How can it go up if people sell?

MrNiMo

If you wanna trow money and forget about it i would go BTC or ETH

ElderMillennialMagic

Only BTC really. All others you are unable to set and forget without checking in on metrics and sentiment more frequently than it sounds like you want to.

footofwrath

Yeah. I'm wondering if we can crash some multi-billion$ institutions by simply switching off consumer interest in BTC.

Suspicious-Essay-847

Yep, it’s definitely possible! We actually offer a full range of travel services (flights, hotels, and more) where you can pay directly with crypto, including Bitcoin. No need to mess around with gift cards or converting first — you can check out with BTC just like you would with a card. If you’re curious, feel free to DM me and I can share more details on how it works and which options are available.

EbbUnited

I have full faith on BTC

EbbUnited

Seems like BTC will move between 114000 to 116500

footofwrath

My thinking is about a "working class" revolt against institution-dominated ownership of BTC. Yes, you're right, the network presence is the key factor, but I wonder if, given the burn-in that BTC has forged, that a high number of validators might not be easily convinced to switch their nodes to the new chain, with the goal of essentially dropping BTC as an interest and leave it entirely to institutions to pass amongst themselves, while "normal people" adopt the new coin and use it as BTC was originally intended.

IgnotusBTC

It's literally a question you could have asked an AI: To be considered a Bitcoin whale it is generally accepted that you must own at least 1,000 BTC. This figure is the most commonly used benchmark because it reflects a level of market power that can influence price movements with a single transaction. Although some people consider smaller amounts (e.g. 17 BTC equivalent to around $1 million), the broader consensus places the whale category at 1,000 BTC and up. This is because whales with this significant amount of BTC can cause volatility and move the market due to the size and liquidity of their trades. In short, the most accepted definition of being a Bitcoin whale is having at least 1,000 BTC

BainTrain55

BTC only goes up end of October and April

BainTrain55

As per usual BTC will go up end of October

baIIern

Did you see the BTC chart lately? New bullrun?

nestiebein

BTC is still a large retail market. I doubt it. I think we're priced in and go sideways for a little longer then skyrocket. No dip, it will be bought by institutional.

Daikon3352

Plus I would be telling people publically if you own BTC and how much of it

TreeFiddy-350

Wait for market crash and buy in then. It’s not uncommon to see crypto swing 10-20% in a single day. I mean bear market where BTC is sitting under $50k and alts are down 90%. That’s where real money is made. GL!

KIG45

If your intentions in cryptocurrencies are long-term (specifically BTC/ETH), interest rate decreases/increases should not worry you because you will succeed anyway. HODL!

LinoStar69

The year is 2035, BTC is trading at 115k up 0.2% from last year

carsonthecarsinogen

Until BTC is taken seriously at the educational level it wont be understood enough for the general public to see “wholecoiner” as a big deal. Unless we see that flip lots will always see it as a scam and just someone who got lucky. I think getting education to talk about BTC will be hard because it will open up questions about the current system. Young children will be less useful to the ruling class if they don’t blindly follow Keynesian economics. And if you teach people about BTC they naturally question the current system.

OGA_Blake

If conviction and belief in Bitcoin is boring... then I'm as boring as it gets. I heard that whole coiner reference from someone very well-known at BTC Vegas :)

OGA_Blake

It really depends on your power cost. > .09. You do have to accept that you are playing the lottery. However, as an avid Bitcoiner and believer in the core principles of BTC... putting the power of hash rate into everyday people's hands is the decentralization that fiat systems lack. I have my lottery rig as a cool hobby and hope to get lucky. You are contributing to the ecosystem.

Bigfatmauls

Yeah it’s possible but not a certain thing. Looks like they have enough capital at the moment to continue operating and investing for a while, so a new round of some kind of imminent dilution is unlikely. They’ve started one of the largest BTC ATM programs out there, on top of the treasury program, so revenue should pick up quite a bit after finishing that off. In one month this company has done quite a bit, it’s an agressive strategy with significant long term potential. Once revenues climb I think the need for dilution would decline as well, seems they are settling their 200m in debt already as well, which wouldn’t make sense if they were strapped for cash.

Prestigious-Rise7566

BTC, ETC, maybe sprinkle some SOL

omg_its_dan

A lot of people are still in a fiat mindset. Their goal is to accumulate dollars; BTC and other investments are a means to that end.

OGA_Blake

Yeah exactly. People throw around terms like *lawyer, doctor, millionaire, philanthropist* as markers of status… but in the future being a **whole coiner** will carry that same kind of weight. And it doesn’t stop there — **multicoiner** status will be another level entirely. Even **.5 BTC** is going to be a huge achievement down the line when supply keeps getting tighter. Not everyone will make it to 1, but stacking consistently and hitting fractions of a coin is still massive. Stacking really is about time + conviction.

footofwrath

Well Doge isn't the #1 crypto... That's why I ain't asking about that. And I'm aware of the pillars. But if someone made another chain essentially identical, with all the same features.... It wouldn't be a question of what is good or bad about BTC. It would be whether people want to pay 120k or $1 for the token.

adiabatic_storm

BTC can be purchased in fractional amounts, so unless you're 100% broke anybody can invest in BTC in the amount they can afford. By contrast, housing isn't that way at all. You must fundamentally have a much larger amount of cash just to get started (down payment), plus enough excess cash on a revolving basis to cover maintenance items. Now obviously if you're completely broke, then both are out of the question, but that's a different issue altogether.

Mister_Way

The FED rate determines how much % interest you gain from holding dollar bonds. When it falls, it reduces the gain from holding dollar bonds, so people sell their bonds and buy something else that will gain more instead. BTC is one of those things that people will trade dollar bonds to hold instead.

Fooshi2020

My guess is that the lower interest rate makes borrowing money cheaper. People may borrow to purchase assets like BTC because the upside ROI is better than the interest rate.

Important-Minimum777

Guy dumped 80k BTC and the market barley flinched

longonbtc

Exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (meaning it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee. [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month. And [Strike](https://strike.me/), [River](https://river.com/), [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/), and [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) are all good reliable places to buy bitcoin from. >would it make sense to transfer bitcoin on a different network You can currently only send bitcoin on the Bitcoin network or the Lightning Network. You cannot actually send bitcoin over altcoin networks. You are sending centralized bitcoin IOUs when you use altcoin networks. You should wait until you have accumulated at least 0.01 BTC on the exchange before you withdraw your bitcoin anyways. So the bitcoin withdrawal fee shouldn't really matter to you unless you're using an exchange like Crypto.com that charges an outrageously excessive bitcoin withdrawal fee.

ResponsibleAd6015

You’re posting this in a BTC thread and can’t see that BTC isn’t money either? It’s a debt and fiat collapse on the horizon. What is BTC denominated in? Yeah, it’s not money either

MrKillerKiller_

Look at the BTC chart leading up to rate cuts.

Dehyak

We’re about to cut rates while having creeping inflation. BTC is going to do fine

dormango

BTC is seen as too risky by people who can’t differentiate it from all the sh!tco!ns being pumped out by scammers

GettingFasterDude

If you listen to somebody like Michael Terpin (Bitcoin Supercycle), buy in the low points of "bitcoin winter" then sell at the peaks of bitcoin summer when prices are irrationally high. That's if you believe the price cycle revolving around miner halvings will continue. If you listen to someone like Michael Saylor, buy as much as you can all the time. Buy at the lows, peaks and in between and buy nothing else. Put all your money into bitcoin, sell your possessions and buy bitcoin, mortgage your house to buy more bitcoin because it's going up forever, Laura. I tend to be fairly conservative in my investing so I'm not taking the Michael Saylor approach. I'm not converting any 401K balances or borrowing to accumulate bitcoin. But I am putting all my expendable, savable cash into BTC. I do have some company stock outside of my 401K that I may eventually sell and buy bit with. My goal is in the short term to have 1% of my total assets in it, and eventually get to 5-10%. Longterm HODL, not timing the market (not my strength).

RoyYourWorkingBoy

I don't think they're pegged either. Sure there are times they move together, but that's just due to macro econ winds. BTC is doing it's own thing.

threedeeman

Obviously the term whale is more about size than how many of them are in the ocean. Same for a guppy, as they are much smaller than average. Whale applies to how much more BTC they have than average. In BTC space you might be considered a whale with 1000 BTC.

AgitatedPassenger369

Ive got my BTC QR code tatted on my left cheek 🍑

word-dragon

Just think in bitcoin - dollar values flip around so much. One day they are up, and the next down. 1000 BTC is always 1000 BTC.

nikcantmine

A farmer at my local farmers market accepts BTC/Lightning payments. Buy steak every week from him using it.

IslandBoy43

BTC, and SPX6900. Simple. Hammer it.

2xfun

95% of the population does not know the difference between clown coin and BTC . They also think you can only buy 1btc and are clueless about how money works 

bbatardo

Is it pegged though? Zoom out and the 1 year chart has BTC +99% and SPY 17%. Even if you go 6 months BTC is up 2x SPY.

OGA_Blake

My dad is an attorney in Florida. He allows clients to pay for services with BTC. Many have participated! Very Orange Community

GettingFasterDude

I'd guess 500-1000 BTC is a whale. If you're throwing around the equivalent of $100,000,000, you deserve the title. On a personal level, if I ever get a wholecoin I'll consider that pretty whale-y.

xXSomethingStupidXx

Personally I closed every holding in my portfolio except bitcoin. If they double cut or talk about easing I'll scale up BTC. If it's cuts as expected or hawkish/depending on guidance it's likely this is a sell the news event given rates are baked in to market prices.

Buggg-

Reducing people’s fear level of crypto (which includes educating difference of a coin with a function from meme coins including those the president has pushed onto his clan). BTC is still seen as a risky investment. When markets begin to drop, people sell their most risky investments first, which will likely include BTC. Things will hopefully rebound quickly when brains stop leaning towards the fight/flight survival and look at best ways to survive a recession. To sum up- surviving a recession without a 50-75% drop that shows investors it holds its value through tough times. And for the average person to accept that BTC and meme coins are not the same rug pull game

titsngiggles69

OP, as the others have said, we are nearing the end of this btc cycle, so after November, expect a steady crypto market decline over the next two years with a few dead cat bounces early on. Since you have no experience or insider connections, I highly highly recommend that you only stick with larger exchanges (eg coinbase, kraken) and for the first year, only investing in BTC. It's the king because it's the only one that reliably recovers each cycle. Everything else bleeds out to BTC long term

zooka19

Good idea, I didn't decide to trim BTC/ETH/SOL and buy others for now.

alt-co

I am curious, what is *your* definition of a BTC whale?

tribbans95

1,000 BTC min

12161986

Yeah, it's doing pretty well right now. I lost a little faith back when BTC was rebounding well and ETH was just stagnant. I didn't exit and so far that's turned out well but I didn't understand (and still don't) why it was stagnant at that time and it got me a little.

InvestorProdigy

I’m thinking semi-longterm. I want to hold for ~5 years, but I definitely do not HODL forever. I know BTC I almost guaranteed to go up over time, however, I can’t get over the fact that if I’m buying now, I’ll be buying high. Which completely goes against how I’ve invested since I was 18. I always bought low after crashes/dips in the market and sold high. But with Bitcoin it’s kinda different cuz the fundamentals are so strong. But idk. I feel so stuck

Swapuz_com

BTC doesn’t ask if you’re ready — it just moves.

iamshifter

ETH is still a thing?! I lost interest when it went POS and gas prices were too high to justify use over BTC or RVN

clothesline

many people on this sub can't cover it either because they won't sell their BTC

melonmeta

What do you mean by collapse? The network security is definitely questionable long term, given that ***i.*** centralization is built into the protocol, as the economy of scales enabled by the Fees and Inflation concentrates the market share of Miners into fewer and fewer players, until there is only 1 Monopolist standing, and we are closing into it; ***ii***. as Inflation dwindles, Fees must increase in order to maintain the security budget, and too High fees may repel people from using it the network at all.; ***iii.*** Electricity costs rising and competing demand in key areas such as Artificial Intelligence will put more pressure into Proof of Work chains, which are energy inneficient. It is surprising how the community has been so gullible to these facts and blinded by the artificial overvaluation of BTC. But those who get real first will avoid the drawdown.

East-Cricket6421

I've seen no evidence that BTC would be easier to compromise than ETH but if you believe that to be true it's simply a rational reason to hold more ETH

AVR777_

I have some BTC, I have to sell it next month to buy it back cheaper, do you think?

External_9081

**🦐 Shrimp & 🦀Crab:** At the lower end of the Bitcoin holder spectrum are two categories: Crabs, owning 1-10 BTC, and Shrimps, possessing less than 1 BTC. These two groups represent the most numerous Bitcoin wallets, yet collectively control only 17% of the total Bitcoin supply. **🐟 Fish & 🐙Octopus:** Fish wallets contain 50-100 Bitcoins, while Octopus wallets hold 10-50 Bitcoins. At current prices, even the smallest Octopus wallet represents an investment of around $300,000. **🦈Sharks & 🐬 Dolphins:** These categories represent significant Bitcoin holders, yet their market influence remains limited. Shark addresses contain between 500-1,000 Bitcoin, while Dolphin addresses hold 100-500 Bitcoin. **🐳 Whales:** In the world of cryptocurrency, two groups dominate at the top of the food chain. Many are familiar with “Whales,” but there is an even larger category known as “Humpbacks.” Humpbacks are addresses holding over 5,000 Bitcoin, while Whales hold between 1,000 and 5,000 Bitcoin. These groups typically consist of large institutions and early Bitcoin adopters, and their actions can significantly influence the market.

ShapeHelpful9253

Haven’t invested in BTC in a few years, but I have to tell it is so lovely seeing my portfolio appreciate so nicely over those years. I also invest in PAXG gold.

alt-co

Everyone’s idea of a whale is different. What do you think qualifies as a whale? In BTC or USD?

Extreme-Benefyt

you can't spend BTC as you spend cash, due to transactional time being high. BTC is being used as currency on a daily basis but from the total daily volume, probably less than 10% is actually a real currency use-case, the rest probably trading bots and high exchanges

melonmeta

Story as old as time. Technology doesn't care, it keeps improving and evolving. BTC has failed to evolve. You know what comes next.

Objective_Can_569

Gemini says there are around 1.5 million whales in the ocean. If we’re realistic about the term whale, then 21M/1.5M=14. So 14 BTC is a whale if there are 1.5M BTC whales on earth.

L0ng80w

Once big money started pouring into BTC it became an investment instead of a currency.

TycoonTrillionaire

10,000BTC

Wendys_444

Icshouls leave WSBcrypto bc they HATE BTC. there's no getting through to them. They say “this bullrun is different” but I sleep better with dca and chill. I played those games. Now I'm here to win steadilt

phil1rio

That is exactly it. I have tried numerous times to explain what makes BTC different from fiat and gold. The former can be made out of thin air via central bank debt issuance, and the latter can be mined indefinitely as long as a firm is willing to spend the resources to dig it up at a net profit. People defend fiat because it’s comforting like American baseball and grandmother’s apple pie. No one wants to admit they trade their human life/time working in exchange for a piece of paper or digits on a direct deposit that can replicated by a central bank at will with no cost of production /time required because a government said so, saying it’s backed by the “economy” us the issuer nation. Like it’s so crazy but most people believe this clownery.

pizdolizu

I don't agree it was the market that didn't except them, it was the wast amount of lobbying, propaganda and any other means of influence that made "the market" reject it. Market didn't even have a chance to make it's choice. Market wants digital cash not BTC.

adiabatic_storm

Lol I hate to say it but yeah, pretty much. If you didn't get into the housing market in the late 2010s or early 2020s, the bar has been raised significantly and a lot of people are locked out. Or at a minimum they'll have to pay such a premium that they are house poor, or will never retire, etc. to just barely swing a home that maybe isn't even that nice. All the more reason to keep stacking BTC. Could realistically be the only way out for a lot of young people.

phil1rio

This here ^: In life, there are those that have intellectual curiosity, and eventually make their way down the BTC rabbit hole, and others that prefer to be in the comfort of what they know to be true about money in fiat terms. My generation (millennials) have not lived in a world with sound money, so it’s no surprise we are missing this revelation.

zooka19

I'm overweight on my BTC, BNB, SOL holdings, under on ETH and XRP. Might trim profits on those 3 and add to the 2 underweight instead of dcaing new money (would bring me over my investing budget since I've mainly been doing stocks). I know this sub hates XRP but oh well.

Ancient-Stock-3261

The Fed’s rate setting has always been a lagging, political tool that distorts real price discovery. Bitcoin flips that script by letting rates reflect pure supply/demand without central meddling. That’s why a lot of us see BTC as the truest “free market” money out there.

Barry_Kong

How ignorant? Say the person who is coping. BTC has made multiple ATHs and yet no alt season. The only tokens that have been doing 10x are shiny new memes on pumpfun, but here you are waiting for quantitative easing to see alt season, when people have been spending their money on other shiny things. People like you are always late to the party.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; PayPal has expanded its peer-to-peer payment system in the U.S. to include cryptocurrency transfers directly within the app. Users can send and receive Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH), and PayPal's stablecoin PYUSD across PayPal accounts, Venmo, and compatible wallets. This move builds on PayPal's previous crypto initiatives, such as the 'Pay with Crypto' feature for merchants, and aims to accelerate growth in digital payments while enhancing user convenience. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

InspectionPowerful16

Should be buy before the approval and being chill because you studied BTC therefore know it’s impossible to enforce a BTC ban.

PantyDoppler

Hopium. Diminishing returns over time. World wars dont breed speculative investments. I'm not anti BTC, but every bull run has new birds chirping and this one isn't different I do admit it is a bigger risk to not invest in BTC, but dont bet your family farm on it. Educate yourself for conviction, then stack your sats. No need to promise fairytales to everyone else and make them lose their life savings after a 85% bear market drop. Sure it's their fault, but shilling does more damage than good

OfficialBONKfun

You’d be shocked at how few in crypto have any BTC