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tldr; Strategy has created a $1.44 billion reserve to ensure financial stability, cover dividends, and manage debt payments. The company also added 130 Bitcoins, increasing its total holdings to 650,000 BTC. This reserve, funded by selling Class A common stock, aims to provide liquidity and reassure stakeholders amidst market fluctuations. Strategy's dual approach of maintaining a cash reserve and expanding its Bitcoin portfolio highlights its commitment to balancing traditional finance with cryptocurrency investments for long-term growth. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

wintomato

You’ve already hit most of the big ones. BTC definitely reacts to macro stuff more than people like to admit. A few other things that can move the price: • Liquidity + risk sentiment - when markets shift to “risk-on,” BTC usually benefits. When fear hits, everything dumps together. • regulation news - anything from the US, EU, or big Asian markets can cause instant swings. • Exchange issues - hacks, outages, or big insolvency rumors can shake the market fast. • Stablecoin flows - Tether/USDC minting or burns can influence short-term moves. And yeah, BTC watches the S&P 500 too, not as tightly as NASDAQ, but the whole US market mood definitely spills over.

NerdTader97

Given the condition if nasdaq retrace of 10-15% be sure that no ICB EVM compatibilities or shit like that will work. We will get rekt and project will abandon developing. Only BTC can survive

thechickenmoo

Regulatory news hits BTC hard too, rules or ban rumors swing prices way more thann you'd think.

Ashamed_Moment_2477

Being a clear a Ponzi scheme the whole MSTR idea is stupid. Why would a whale want to make that entity rich, by building a BTC bag, that holds 5% of the entire supply?

SeaworthinessSad7300

Yeah I have invested heavily with a long term view. Annoyed about my timing (having done so at the start of this year). But I was always bullish so just lump summed in. For all we know, if I had decided to hold back it could have rocketed. I find timing very difficult but I know long term BTC will have very good growth (even considering decreasing returns compared to historically)

Commercial-Shape5561

It’s not really a Ponzi scheme unless you think bitcoin itself is, it’s just a risky, highly levered bet on BTC. It’s out in the open exactly what it is, no one’s being deceived or lied to. That’s not to say it’s a good idea. But it’s not illegal or deceptive or fraudulent… just very risky

NonGNonM

BTC up 1% in the last 24 hrs. i think we're back guys

Smile_lifeisgood

If you can't see how rug pulls by a President undermine the public's interest and potential future faith in _all_ crypto you're either a hopelessly biased MAGA type who thinks Trump can do no wrong or not thinking this through. Cryptocurrency and BTC are synonymous to your average joe. Rug pulls are terrible optics and empower crypto haters like Warren.

Krembolix

Wow, last time so much FUD on X was when Germans gov sold their stack. Looked up some comments on MSTR or BTC price action and lots of negative input from random ac targeting specifically MSTR etc

JeremyLinForever

No, the well informed investor would see that the YOY return on BTC is actually the hurdle rate. If Bitcoin is returning 50% year over year, then you need a small portions of an equity or instrument that returns more than 50% YOY hurdle rate. What would give this? MSTR.

Ok-Topic1139

Agreed. Last cycle i didnt exit in time and just held. This time I actually managed to exit. And for the first time im 100% out. I will be waiting for a bottom between 50 and 60K and 1 year before i start nibbling again. We went from 125 to 85k. In a month. Anyone thinking this is just a correction has to be new to BTC, or in denial,

Humphrey-B-Bear

There's no doubt this year has somewhat thrown the rule book out the window. But to your point, BTC (AKA The Honeybadger) has always done whatever the f#&k it wants. It doesn't care if you bought, sold, or hold. It will do in most cases the opposite of what you expect.

inShambles3749

Bitcoins rise to 1m could make me happy. But BTC doesn't do that

Nickovskii

The irony is that a well informed investor would just buy BTC.

tyomax

Only invest what you are willing to lose. BTC is highly volatile and not many people can stomach the ups and down.

Nickovskii

Tick tock next block. Keep buying BTC.

zeefweber

i bought 1 BTC Bitcoin in 2017. And still HODLing. I've seen it go 100x to 87x today. HODLing. Gonna teach me kids tp HODL and teach then to teach their kods to HODL.

zada-dog

You provide your BTC address as part of the configuration & setup. BTC gets sent there if you belong to a pool or if you solo mine and get lucky with finding a block, BTC network itself will deposit your block reward + fees after 100 confirmations.

Secret-Snow-6929

Idc BTC is .02% of my portfolio is exactly where it should be taking up as little as possible thats why I dont care I care Zero F$&cks about where the price goes up or down long term

Secret-Snow-6929

BONE HEAD MODS the Gestapo Degens trying to parade around controling the narrative the only thing they are doing is making BTC price drop

Secret-Snow-6929

WRONG no one sold I don't flinch by this drop I have held what BTC i have for two years this doesn't phase me and I am certainly not short because at this point that would be just plain stupid. I merely captured a moment in time earlier today nothing more or less, that's it.

fractalfocuser

BTC is up over 400% in the last 5yrs and Eth is up over 500% Anybody actually HODLing is not regretting their bags right now unless they're really bad at math

Coin_5s

You might be right long-term, but broke short-term Even if BTC goes up over 5–10 years, can you survive the drawdowns without panic-selling or blowing up your life?

mustachechap

Good for them. I used to love vanguard, but the lack of BTC ETFs made me switch to Fidelity earlier this year. I’m super happy with the switch and don’t plan to look back, but glad to see more can get in on the action.

Informal-Ad220

Once BTC hits a new ATH, don't buy there (I have, twice, thinking it was going to keep going). It always comes back down.

JeremyLinForever

Strategy is single-handedly producing a digital credit market built on Bitcoin. It’s literally dictating interest rates in taking loans on BTC by itself with its preferred stock issuances and not relying on Treasury Bills or any other counter party to dictate those interest rates. People who are uninformed will call it a pyramid scheme, but people who understand basically see it as an indestructible form of credit market that won’t collapse, even when Fed interest rates go to 0% from any collapse really.

Dalhia_Moon

BTC🙌🏻

Fresh-Soft-9303

I don't know if that's true, or maybe it's true for some countries. Many companies buy BTC as an asset and just hold on to it long term before realization.

Fresh-Soft-9303

One reason why people buy ETFs because some countries only allow tax advantage bank accounts for an average citizen to purchase ETFs and if someone directly bought BTC they would expose themselves to capital gains taxes like any other asset. It's crazy but that's how it is. There are other reasons but that's how the carrot & stick works with the government so ETFs become the only tax-free way to purchase them.

eastcoastguy128

If it were split off from the original unsplit BTC into BCH and then BCH ABC it could be one XEC.

Aus_Dave

I'm typically BTC bullish but had to admit in this cycle the supply halved and the ATH doubled, then we needed to cool off. We're clearly in a bear market below the 50w ma and further downside is likely (when we put hopium aside).

Happy_Discussion_536

Not if you buy BTC and willing to be patient.

catson43

Saylor is doing a lot of handwaving without any substantial backup. Here is what's really happening: MSTR’s stock market valuation has fallen so that the company is now priced below the value of its Bitcoin holdings (on a “net BTC asset” basis), which signals markets have become highly skeptical of its business model — especially under leverage. Much of MSTR’s strategy relies on issuing convertible debt, preferred stock or equity, then using proceeds to buy more Bitcoin. But with Bitcoin’s price down and investor appetite waning, that strategy becomes much harder to sustain. Their convertible debt, (a big part of their financing) poses near-term risks: some of it may need to be repaid (or refinanced at much higher cost) by 2027–2028 if stock prices remain depressed. Because of this debt pressure + falling “premium” over BTC value + limited liquidity in cash/reserve, MSTR might eventually face a situation where selling some of its Bitcoin becomes a “least bad” option to stay afloat. Indeed, management recently admitted that such a sale could not be ruled out if certain financial thresholds are breached.

TheGDC33

Well shit will soar again for sure BUT it could be -65% from price now, so who knows. I really think only select alts will do well, but here is to hoping that the quity tech that does shit and put rwa on chain could get massively adopted. Can't say I know anymore. But BTC will still perform I think in the long run

ABahRunt

You have no other investments and you aped all your money into BTC at the ATH? Why do you hate money so much? This is not for you. Go buy 90% VOO/VTI from now on. And keep 10% in cash. Forget about btc until you learn the basics

runningwithsharpie

If you don't need those money for the next 4 years, sure. Just some perspective: the last big crash, BTC dropped 75% of its value. Can you handle that? If your answers to both are yes, go right ahead.

CXavier4545

been buying and selling based off the 4 year cycles since 2017 and enjoying my BTC gains, I’m not blindly buying forever I’m enjoying life with it

ParticularBeyond9

Before that bounce back there will be a way bigger dip. The last bear market it reached $15k and everyone thought it was over for BTC. Is this the sentiment now?

DrEtatstician

1. Already there is liquidity crisis ( even though fed quantitative tightening is ending ) , on top of it relentless demand for Gold and silver !! If crypto stands a chance this next few quarters it will all be routed to BTC , Alt season I guess is officially dead

EjackQuelate

BTC Retested support and was rejected. 75,432 is the next support level for BTC hang on to your britches!!

samsimon123

Oh, boy, if USDT and his "scheme" collapses, we could see BTC $25K

Beneficial_Win_5128

Theres a lot of ignorance about the scarcity of BTC. The last block reward will be a single satoshi. OP just got almost 8,000 times that much. This will be worth a fortune one day. People will scorn and laugh, just like they scorned the ones who could "only" buy 20 btc back in the day.

Gubbie99

Halving limits the daily inflation. Makes it a bullish thing for BTC. 1BTC = 1BTC right? Well, not when it comes to pay electricity and other various mining costs. I don’t talk small home mining. I talk huge mining companies. And wether it’s a mining company. A CEX. A crypto casino. Like most companies in this world, there is competition. And if you can remove competition you will likely be more profitable down the road. To remove competition you lower the price of your product so the competition starts to struggle. When they give in you starts to push price back up… now you sell more of the same product because there is less competition. If you have been in the game since 2016 you peoboably have heard of various CEX and companies giving in or going bankrupt. Wether it’s real wars, economic wars, trade wars. It’s often about hurting the enemy to a point where you take over or stand stronger in the long run. I don’t see this strategy for companies or whales change because we now have various ETF’s. I just see the game easier to play for more participants. I used to call my self “the observer” often I’d rather just watch how things play out and learn than gamble. And a lot is going on behind the scene. A lot more than I know. It just strikes me how many different things happening right before October 10. And that did happen since. And I don’t think MSTR might have been the initial target. But strategy is a big BTC player and did become questioned since the bear market started. Now, why did CZ get pardoned, trump talks about crypto being the future backbone of finance, (a trump insider shorting the top) and a DNS outage. And huge amount of liquidations happen at the same time? Thats in my book far to many variables playing together to be random coincidence. We know that Binance and ftx did fight their battles last cycle and what the outcome was of that. So atm this isn’t just standard let’s all keep stacking BTC… it looks like some major cooperate wars going on. And I recall Bitmine even warning people about playing with leverage atm during this volatile period. With all different ETFs… even just at the etf level we might see competition to be the biggest and best ETF issuer so they can earn the most revenue. The game didn’t change… it just expanded

0Adiemus0

I want to DCA more after cashing out my BTC at 104k..but I have a feeling it'll drop more..perhaps I'll save my bigger DCAs for then

Hooftly

Im a defi builder not a BTC maxi wrong tree dude

unthocks

BTC isn’t a “guaranteed high return.” Its appreciation comes from adoption, not a built-in yield. Firms don’t stop investing because money is sound > they invest when there’s demand and profit to be made. Sound money doesn’t kill production; bad assumptions do.

cryptoboywonder

I lost confidence in any coin that institutions now own or have been given permission to have ETFs. People can Short coins, just like they can short stocks, and thereby drive the price down. Think about it.... if there is a Short BTC ETF then Short sellers can buy this and drive the price down. With stocks, the rational for shorting a stock is you "borrow" a stock you do not own but someone else owns it, you sell it and wait for the price to drop. After the price drops, you buy back the same number of stocks to "supposedly replace" what you borrowed. Whoever you borrowed from, whom no one knows, does not even know his or her stocks were borrowed, and gets no compensation like interest. I think this is a scam trading method created by white collar criminals/institutions/exchanges. They are creating fake shares from thin air, allow Short sellers to sell them and repurchase afterwards, while they rake in the commissions.

Renowned_Molecule

I pray for the BTC Maxis. They are about to go through hell once the real market arrives via lEgALiZaTiOn.

blubpotato

That’s basically inflation in the sense of real value. If everyone invests in BTC and gains because of it, suddenly every person has more money, meaning prices rise, as more wealth chases the same amount of things to purchase. Your scenario misses the “investment” part. Firms must invest in future production in order for the economy to actually grow (more stuff for people to buy), and an increase in purchasing power and standards of living. Investment happens now because companies have capital they wish to make a return on. Current risk free rates are low(bonds barely outpace inflation), so they work on improving production to generate returns on capital. If an asset such as BTC guarantees a quite high rate of return(a rate of return you believe is sufficient to benefit the lower class), then the firms will never invest in real life production.

adiabatic_storm

Yep, held through the FTX collapse. My attitude was basically, who cares what happens to some random new central exchange? Obviously a bummer for anyone who had BTC there and didn't move it off the exchange, but frankly that's something they should have known better than to do anyways after Mt. Gox...

xomox2012

Sorry glimmer? I don’t hold stables. I’m just making an observation that if a run on stables happens and they are backed by bonds, there is no bailout that will come. It’s the perfect scheme to make crypto the boogeyman and offload some US debt while they are at it. If stables are the. Used to back say the value of BTC, all that value disappears. If this is all orchestrated by the US government that would be a masterplay honestly.

sker13559

Institutions and retirement funds cant buy BTC. You need more hours of research.

Xiximaro

You are thinking wrong... Alt coins don't explode when BTC dominante gets lowered (whatever that means). Alt coins usually follow BTC trend. Só if BTC falls, Alts fall even harder. If BTC raises, Alts rise even harder

dj_destroyer

Obviously just done in an effort to get to a round number. 650k BTC is no joke!

Mightiest_Taco117

The comment your responding to is grounded in reality, not the hypothetical OP presented. Responding in the context of that most people involved in Bitcoin have not tripled their investment or better, which seems unlikely given the upside over the past year. On a related note, if bitcoin does indeed reach 100 million, why WOULD you want to sell? To claim taxes on your profit? I'd posit that it would have much greater utility and value remaining as BTC at those valuation levels.

Aggressive_Spell2314

Did you hodl through the FTX collapse? that’s when I got into crypto. I bought BTC like psycho when everyone was panic selling. lots of FUD back then. Things have changed a lot since.

blubpotato

We treat the economy as an average of decisions made all people. If even 5% of people on the fence about a purchase pull the trigger on a large purchase that they wouldn’t have had they been holding all money in BTC(an asset that they expect to be worth more next year!!), then that is a non-negligible effect on the economy. In reality, the 5% number is arbitrary. The number varies depending on each person’s marginal propensity to consume. What is certain is that it is likely larger than 5%.

AgnewTheModHamster

I really don't understand how you spun a $1.44B cash position against BTC into a bad thing, but go on, I am not yet entertained.

eupherein

If you have a Roth 401k and Roth IRA they are great. You can get exposure to BTC and sell 5 years later than you opened the account without facing any tax penalties. Allowing you to take profits while DCAing cold storage btc on the side in the off chance it is one day treated as money and you then have hard btc with the same tax benefits as the Roth accounts. Worst case, btc is widely adopted and you spend it just like cash, privately without depositing to bank account, and still have tax free Roth exposure. I would not advise ETFs to someone capable and competent for cold storage, or someone who is 1090 or at a trash job with no 401k

malte_brigge

I'm not talking about other assets, much less recommending them. I'm just trying to inject some realism here. I think that most people, when they imagine BTC hitting $1 million, imagine what it would feel like for it to be $1 million in today's money. Recent history has shown how foolish that is.

AgnewTheModHamster

I'll reply to your question, that has little to do with my originasl post outside Saylor's position. The biggest threat to BTC market valuation was a forced Saylor sell and that has been taken completely off the table at least thru the next year, no matter what BTC does in market price, Saylor has the capital reserves to meet his debt obligations and perhaps even buy the dip.

shimanospd

Never really understood why you would buy microstrategy if you could buy a bitcoin ETF or buy BTC and hold the keys yourself.

Fresh-Soft-9303

For those curious on what's happening. They're borrowing large sums of money to buy Bitcoin, and then promise to pay back % to those borrowers. You can look at this the other way and call those borrowers "Investors" and its technically the same thing, i.e. people who gave them money in hopes of % returns. The real bet here is that Bitcoin's price will continue going up, which is typically 20% - 30% give or take, and if they pay back 9% to their shareholders that's a profitable business. But what happens when Bitcoin goes down due to changing circumstances or market volatility, etc. Or what if the returns aren't as promising? That's the problem. It's not a "pyramid scheme" because at the core there's actual Bitcoins being purchased and appreciating over time, but it's almost like building a castle with poor foundations in hopes that there would be no earthquakes in the foreseeable future. It's a big bet considering how BTC has been performing. So not really a pyramid, but still not the best business plan because an investor could literally just buy and hold their own BTC and cut out the middleman as an alternative.

AgnewTheModHamster

The point of this whole post was that Michael Saylor has positioned himself to not have to sell any BTC thru at least 2027, I think you are arguing the wrong point, my Brother In Christ.

Gubbie99

Yes. The question that remains… wich CEX will go bankrupt this time…or will we have the first cycle without a massive reset and a CEX going upside down? For sure the CEX war is still raging. There is a reason for the meme (practice safe CEX) Because if you hold coins on a CEX that goes bankrupt you tend to not see your money in a very long time if at all. And if you do the payment often is at the worth of that date and not future profits should you have held. People who had Btc in CEX that went bankrupt when BTC was worth 1-4k got their paycheck somewhere around when BTC was worth 64k… imagine the pain when you see BTC climbing for 2 cycles and you don’t get that profit because the CEX you used went bankrupt during a BTC crash. Anyways. People are free to do whatever and trade however and maybe that’s why it feels slightly different this time… but I saw the double top. And I saw the pattern last week formed aaaasnd tomorrow is Tuesday…. So if things do look like the past… there is 3 signals right there 🤷‍♂️ Good luck. I’m prepared.

3sides2everyStory

I don't have it at hand, but the sub-NAV premium is listed in their 10‑K risk statement with SEC. And they just announced a $1.4 Billion cash reserve with new guidance to close the year. MSTR is not going anywhere. And they're not going to sell BTC. This is a nice Arb opportunity at the moment. Almost 20% discount of BTC per share. Could go lower.

SiteDefiant531

the thing that no one talks about it is how it COSTS BTC to buy BTC... does it cost SILVER to buy SILVER? does it cost STOCKS to buy STOCKS? do you goto a bank and pay DOLLARS to get DOLLARS? so why does it cost BTC to buy BTC ??

Gubbie99

But that would mean BTC would just increase faster and faster and faster after each halving. And it does… but there is still a reset every cycle…. Why? Please go look inside the bitcoin explorer blocks… the answers are hidden inside the chain…. Don’t trust me DYOR!

Gubbie99

It’s the huge mining companies and CEX companies that fight eachother and creates the BTC cycle crash… otherwise they would never ROI… the hashrate would never stop climbing ever. Mining companies would never be profitable as it would be like the gold rush early days. Now if you continuously reset it after each halving and try to take out competition. You make more profit in the future… ofc money printer goes brr… we can see on balance sheets. But you don’t think “the big league” still will fight its wars? Every cycle so far ended with 1 or more CEX going bankrupt. Coincidence? Maybe… maybe this cycle it won’t happen. But according to rumours some are already in huge financial problems after oct 10. You say ETFs will have a impact? ETF don’t change anything besides making it easier to trade BTC and ETH and other crypto. Making bull market and bear market even more volatile. We didn’t have a stock market crash duruing last cycles… if AI bubble pops now same time as BTC does it regular reset… oh boy! But people make gains in both bull and bear markets. That’s why people can live as daytraders. No matter wich way it goes people always profit on it if they are good at it. Last crash BTC went from 64k to 8k in seconds. So remember to place super low buy orders if you feel lucky 😉

Ok_Pipe6417

Investments is a loose term here in the context of currency, crypto or BTC if you delineate between the 3. Bitcoin's value is based on what someone is willing to pay for it. It produces nothing nor is it tangible. If the world decides that it is worthless then it's value is zero, so yes zero must be considered if being a dilligent with your financial future.

whodaphucru

I count them but it doesn't really matter as it's only me that knows that and part of the broader net worth that includes lots of non BTC things too. I didn't really care what anyone thinks on this topic not should you.

RonMexico16

The pyramid shown and the MSTR pyramid scheme are two separate things…just a poor choice of graphic by MSTR. The pyramid scheme accusations come from MSTR’s “unconventional” business model where they don’t actually make anything. They effectively keep borrowing money (or issuing new equity) to buy more BTC and pay cash dividends. The whole scheme relies on a future where BTC only goes up forever and ever. So yeah…basically a pyramid scheme wrapped in lots of sophisticated sounding finance terminology.

angelwolf71885

The plateau is coming at 0.5 BTC reward per block mined

angelwolf71885

Sometimes the price goes up and everyone’s happy…and sometimes the price goes down and everyone’s sad…it repeats every 4 years and the price goes down with bad economic news and goes up with good economic news and pro tip wait to buy till 1.5 years till halving that’s where the real discounts have been historically also if the US hits a recession expect steep discounts on BTC…just keep stacking sats

VariatCA

Ask that in the Wallstreetbets sub, you'll get enough answers to publish a book about it. Some people hate Bitcoin. Some hate Saylor and his almost cringeworthy (for a public CEO) front-facing optimism about BTC and MSTR's acquisition gains. Some simplistically view MSTR (and Bitcoin for that matter) as a surface-level ponzi scheme. Some remember his involvement in the dot-com bubble 25 years ago. And if you add all that up, some people *really, vocally and eternally* hate how when you combine everything they hate about all those subjects, they still sat on the sidelines watching MSTR and Bitcoin skyrocket back up in price.

justletmesignupalre

Nah I don't think so. The idea is that the 4 year cycle happens because after a halving there are less BTC entering the market per day while demand keeps being the same and that's causes a supply shock...but almost 20mm of the 21mm BTC have already been mined. The halving won't change supply and demand much anymore. It may have done so on the first cycles, but now it shouldn't impact the price of BTC much.

donjoe0

New toy for daily price watching degens: [https://www.coinex.com/en/dual-investment](https://www.coinex.com/en/dual-investment) It's a sort of "bet on the future price" that looks mostly like a limit-buy or limit-sell for BTC/USDT or ETH/USDT, but it also has a fixed-income component, a sort of interest that you earn no matter if your price prediction comes true or not. No leverage, no risk of total ruin, just "limit orders with benefits". If the prediction comes true over the chosen period, you get the benefit of buying at that lower price or selling at that higher price, with zero fees, (but also risk paying the opportunity cost of missing an even more extreme price movement that might happen in reality over that same interval, since the funds are locked, so it's like a limit order you can't cancel), and aside from that you get a fixed interest component on your bet amount no matter what. It's not going to get you the perfect profit you could possibly make over every future interval, but then again who can claim they're usually making perfect trades when they have a free hand and the funds aren't locked into this kind of "bet"? It could be a way to slow your price checking cycle, set a few days aside where you're not looking at it anymore because your bets are placed, your funds are locked, and what's gonna happen is gonna happen, at least you know you're getting that fixed interest component, and those are some quite attractive APY values on there, some of them even triple-digit (but of course those only show up for shorter terms of less than a week, and very small target price moves where you don't stand to make any significant profit if the crypto trade side of it triggers).

Hitem20

Buy BTCI instead, use the monthly dividends to buy actual BTC and don't look back

Gubbie99

Good luck with that… BTC still halves every 4 years. As long as it does you will have a 4 year cycle… it’s hard coded and run by greed.

superawesomefiles

Mmmm. Hopium. Thanks bro. Hook that shit up to my veins and take my money! We go down together! BTC4Life!!11!! j/k you're all fucked for the next 3-4 years.

nerdburg

BTC goes up and down a lot, but over time it goes up more than down. That's literally all you need to know. Buy and be patient, don't try to play the market. That's it.

Gubbie99

Cool. Question is. Will you keep believing during a bearmarket for the next 2 years should BTC suffer its standard 4y crash?

Lieme14

Interesting that you think that you think there will be a new ATH in 2026, since BTC went below the 50WMA. Until it manages to reclaim it, it doesn't seem to make sense to think of a ATH in 2026, not saying it can't happen though.

nerdburg

A long held principle of investing is to diversify your portfolio. However, BTC just keeps increasing in value over time, so to some it seems like a reasonable investment. You'll have to decide your risk tolerance tho.

disasterly213

People were saying the 4 year cycle was over last cycle when the ETFs came and a country adopted BTC. “Cycle is over” they said

read_it_mate

Sorry but you're nuts if you think whales are panic selling BTC because of something a bank said about it

CHawkeye

Don’t put all your money into one asset. Diversify. I mix regular savings, pensions and BTC.

michoriso

It can always go lower. Yes you should invest in BTC, but average in. It's very hard to time the bottom.

Simke11

Anyone who wanted to get into BTC ETFs would have already done so

AnyPortInAHurricane

MSTR and BTC are the same scam

XoXeLo

What is even the point of BTC being worth what is worth, I never understood that. Initially it was just trying to be an alternative to FIAT to pay for different goods, now 1BTC is worth 100k? What for? Just to gamble and make some people rich and others poor.

Financial_Clue_2534

Cold storage is if you were to keep your private/seed phase written down. Hard wallet is a device that allows you to access your coins on chain. Think of your hard wallet as a house key that has all the ridges and seed phase/private key as the design plans for the ridges. In the future the hopes are to have everything in sats base. Not sure when but I definitely can see that occurring. The whole payout in fiat will still be there most likely in a stablecoin form. The ideal situation would be you don’t need to sell your bitcoin. You can borrow against it. Say BTC is worth $1m and you need $10k for a business idea well you could sell the $10k worth of bitcoin or borrow against the $10k worth that way you can get your fiat but also still have your asset. It’s what the rich do for stocks. You never get taxed and the asset typically always goes up. It is scary countries are talking about self custody if it’s a right or not. During the gold confiscation period they went door to door. Obviously it’s hard to hind gold coins, bars, etc. that choice is up to you how you want to handle it. If you are fleeing a war torn or oppressive country do you want to give up your wealth or survive another day?

CleanUpstairs7593

Buy BTC treasury company and lose it all!

PremiumQueso

3% for a merchant service account is a little high. You can get better if you have a decent volume each month. And with 3% you get cash in 48 hours, and you don't have to worry about the value of the dollar tanking 25% in 3 months. Plus, you can pay bills with dollars, not BTC. As for my bank, of course I trust my bank, my money is in there. My government, ask me again after this MAGA shit is over with.

slash_networkboy

I mean they're one in the same no? Leverage specifically is a loan on an asset to buy more of the asset, this is just a loan on the bought asset. OP: the reason this is a bad idea from a business standpoint is because if the asset value drops enough further then I just say "fuck the loan" and you're left liquidating the BTC for some amount less than what you paid to buy it on my behalf anyway. Meanwhile now you're in the red, possibly very badly. As a buyer as long as I can ensure I am otherwise a total turnip (house and equities accounts into an irrevocable trust managed by a lawyer on my behalf for example, or I'm just dead poor) then I just take out $1m in BTC with your offer. Either it goes up and I pay you back with the spread or it goes down and I walk and declare bankruptcy. In essence you've given me a free long option.

SeaworthinessSad7300

maybe not this dip specifically but generally BTC is not flavour of the month atm. It did not go from 127 to 135 to 150 etc. Because people dont want it very much. The demand is not there. Meanwhile S and P has gone well. And so has gold.

PatMu5tard

A lot of non-crypto people might want a small exposure to BTC through traditional means. That may only be 1-2% of their portfolio,

Danniet4

Don’t put money you need into crypto. Don’t trust in alt season, don’t do leverage trading. Mistake made, be more careful next time and buy BTC.

dylang01

Companies have a legal responsibility to maximize shareholder value. MSTR did this when their shareprice was above NAV by issuing more shares to buy BTC. The reverse of this is just as true.