BTC

ThePugz

I own some BTC @ $16K some @ $30K a bunch @ $50K, a lot @ $60K, some more @ $80K even a bit @ $100-$125K @ bought some more today @ $65K. Just BUY BUY BUY

BryantNielson-QCI

I was at BTC2026 and those panels were jokes. Only Tezor is quantum-ready. The rest are not. Besides, current and wallets are not the only risk. Legacy wallets, wallets that are forgotten or where keys were lost, represent 25% of outstanding BTC, and they are all vulnerable.

NobodyImportant13

The answer is convertible bonds. Google them. Banks view them as basically risk free because they have the upside of equity (in this case the upside of BTC because MSTR is a proxy for holding BTC) and their downside risk is offset by shorting BTC.

citrus1330

This sub is so delusional. I mean I fully believe that BTC will hit all time highs again, but just because it's gone down and up before doesn't mean it will always do so. Mainly what gets to me is how cultlike y'all are, though.

tjlusco

For those sleeping under a rock, there are fairly strict KYC and know who you’re transacting with laws being introduced across the world. It’s the end of the pseudo-anonymous era. BTC has been the black market coin of choice, but it’s about to be undermined by regulatory capture. If people can’t exchange BTC for fiat, the gig is up.

invisiblekyd

Maybe but the dollar is only getting devalued. So in order to argue your point, the asset in comparison must hold its value against the 21 million BTC that ever exists

Glittering-Local-147

BTC 400k+ tx per day (many of wich could be millions each with Lightning) current fee is $0.05 Baby nano fast and free still does under 100k per day. Yikes. Yeah it's more secure, more valuable.

HSuke

Because they don't buy with cash. They buy after selling MSTR shares. And guess what dropped even lower than BTC?

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Good-Examination2239

ETH and ADA are my bags. Strongly considering choosing BTC next depending on its movements in the coming months. Feeling very bullish on Crypto in general given how low these prices have been and how bearish the market has been about the general global situation and the opening of AI tech stocks. I think crypto prices go up much more once things become more stable, it just might take several months first.

EarningsPal

If BTC goes to $200,000 then yes

Muisan

If selling 32 BTC is what's got the market down than how the hell aren't we skyrocketing right now after a buy of 1500?

Prestigious-Ad-7927

IBIT moves with BTC. MSTR is 1.4X BTC. In adddition, bid/askspread is tighter on IBIT vs bitcoin. Plus, I can sell weekly covered calls and puts to generate premium which is used to buy more IBIT and MSTR.

LibertyWithLiquidity

$1.3T market cap might as well be free. You're getting free Bitcoin right now, just so you know. There will be no difference between buying BTC now & literally getting it for free from the faucet website in 2010. There's roughly a quadrillion dollars of (mostly) fake wealth out there & the BEST SoV makes up like 0.1% of that? My brain can't comprehend that. Either these numbers are totally wrong or people are stupid af. Which one is it? Anyway... just bought some more.

TheresNoSecondBest

>That’s not how this works. A BIP-110 soft fork would change network rules They will either, self-fork (hardfork) out of Bitcoin or the whole proposal will fail to activate before August 7th. Bip110 cannot exist in parallel like Segwit for example. That's at least how I see it and why I'm not joining their camp. They're just making drama and attacking Bitcoin instead of trying to work together and change it for better. The vast majority of Bitcoin HODLers don't like NFTs, runes and other crap, and would be more than happy to get rid of them. But bip110 simply isn't the correct way, IMHO. >not require ordinary BTC holders to exchange or move their coins. There’s no need for hodlers to do anything. Agreed. Bitcoin HODLers won't need to do anything, no matter if it's a soft or hard fork.

gigasawblade

He paid with shares, so BTC price in USD is completely irrelevant. He also dumped the price of MSTR shares and then sold them at lowest to fill USD reserve, doesn't sound like such a great move to me

unknowngloomth

Yes, just hyperliquid held strong during BTC dips. The other coins didn't. All of them are down so much from their ATHs whereas HYPE isn't. The problem with alts is that. They're massively down from their ATHs. That triggers a bagholder ceiling problem

Patient_Craft2195

What you're looking for is called 'beta' in crypto. Low beta alts bleed less when BTC dumps and pump harder when it bounces. Check CoinGlass for BTC dominance chart — when dominance drops after a BTC bounce, that's your altseason signal. Also try Messari or Token Terminal to filter alts by correlation to BTC

RandomPlayerCSGO

The money comes from borrowing and he can keep making this buys cause the artificial credit expansion of fiat currencies means he can borrow at very low interest rates. Since he is borrowing at an interest rate lower than inflation that means that yes this can go on forever until either BTC crashes enough to liquidate him or the usd devalues so much that his debt basically goes to 0

SimpleMoonFarmer

Recession → deflation → money printer Then BTC goes to $1M

summ_app

Are we still in the four cycle BTC?

r7232

What does that have to do with BTC?

96933287275978

That’s not how this works. You clearly don’t understand what you are talking about. A BIP-110 fork would affect network rules. BIP-110 is a soft fork, so ordinary BTC holders do not need to take any action to keep their coins.

DankShibe

Doge is the closest thing to BTC. I hold some and never plan to sell ( 2018 buyer and didn’t touch them on 2021 ATH either )

cyger

65% AI stocks. 25% BTC. 7% SOL 3% crap coins.

joos_hubert

I would not borrow just because October looks like a cycle low. That is still a fixed debt payment attached to an asset that can move 30-50% against you before the long-term thesis has time to play out. I would separate this from a BTC-backed loan too. Borrowing against BTC you already own has liquidation risk. Borrowing cash to buy BTC adds leverage before you even have the asset. Both can work on paper, but the bad scenario is ugly: price drops, income changes, and you are forced to sell at the worst time. If it were me, I would buy slower with cash flow and keep the sleep-at-night part intact.

sorites

BTC going up 🤷‍♂️

Freeloader_

yeah, or all stocks will go to zero or an asteroid will hit an earth, or nukes will fo flying either of those very unlikely to happen so you can either worry and watch Bitcoin go parabolic for fifth time and pinch yourself (I knew it!) but didnt have the balls when it matter the only way I see BTC fail is if quantum computing is a thing and they dont have solution for it

Actualizarapp

Muy buena la web he visto el proceso claro de como a partir de la clave privada se genera la dirección BTC

ChainChaneleon

Market impact isn’t just about the BTC amount, it’s about context. A 32 BTC sale can spook people if the market is already fragile and everyone reads it as a signal. A 1,000 BTC buy may be expected, OTC, or already priced in. Narrative moves price faster than math sometimes.

ChainChaneleon

Because “good opportunity” and “50% of savings” are two very different things. BTC may be a great long-term asset, but it can still drop 20–30% after you buy. DCA keeps you alive mentally and financially.

ChainChaneleon

Feels like a classic mid-cycle washout to me. No need to hero-long every bounce. I’d rather see BTC hold $58K–$60K and reclaim $67K–$70K with volume first. For alts, relative strength matters now. Most won’t recover, but the strong ones usually reveal themselves during ugly markets.

Realistic_Fee_00001

> If it was cheap and easy to use, people would use it.. but it isn't.. it's too complex and awkward for most people to engage with. I can only always recommend to read "Hijacking Bitcoin" you will understand BTC is the way it is afterwards.

Realistic_Fee_00001

>Money = Ledger. But BTC is not money anymore. It cannot by a widespread MoE with the tiny tps it has. (it isn't even enough to facilitate scaling via LN)

Realistic_Fee_00001

BTC isn't Bitcoin anymore, it got crippled and stripped of its use case. And you are right, BTC today is nothing more than a gambling token. Bitcoin however was supposed to be p2p cash. Sound money everyone can control themselves and has the full freedom to transact without a third party saying Yay or Nay. That would be quite useful.That Bitcoin is still there, it is just called Bitcoin Cash these days.

-Baloo

Well honestly a lot of the blame lies on the core developers and incentive structure. If it was cheap and easy to use, people would use it.. but it isn't.. it's too complex and awkward for most people to engage with. Seed phrases they need to keep secure, on ramps, tax obligations etc.. The whole UI/UX experience needs to be seamless and smooth, it has to be ***better*** than what Visa or Mastercard offer - else why would consumers switch? In parts of SE Asia they already have blockchain integrated into the banking systems, and you just pay by scanning a QR code with your phone and it settles cross chain inter bank within seconds. It needs to be like that.. users shouldn't need to adapt to BTC, crypto should adapt to consumer behaviour. And yes - from a business perspective crypto rails are actually much better to use today, you get settled almost immediately. But the issue is that consumers aren't interested because the whole onboarding process is a nightmare (which does also come down to governments and existing financial players gatekeeping).

ObeseSnake

SpaceX at #8 with 18,712 BTC Coinbase Global at #9 with 16,492 BTC

Glittering-Elk-8919

I mean, it depends on the loan amount and your collateral etc. But yeah I would say a small loan is not a bad idea. Have a fall back option though in case BTC doesn't go up from end of this year.

znv142

Imagine a world where there is a fixed supply of a currency - the economy would actually collapse. Why would you buy anything if what you buy today will be effectively cheaper tomorrow? What about borrowing for a mortgage? Impossible. You borrow 5 BTC to buy a house. In 20 years you have 1 BTC left, but now a house costs 1 BTC because it's appreciated more. It doesn't work sorry.

-Baloo

Money = Ledger. Money is only ever a means to an ends, it's almost entirely a record of transactions where actual goods are traded, services rendered, who owes and owns what. Everything in between, cash, gold, plastic cards, bonds, notes etc are just a means to represent the values held on the books, on the ledger. BTC is far from perfect - but it IS a digital ledger that is peer to peer vs a traditional centralised ledger where an entity / authority is the gatekeeper. You can place your trust in a financial institution or government with the record keeping if you prefer, but to say that BTC is just a 'digital amulet' is a gross over simplification and really a complete mis-characterisation of its purpose. Maybe your confusion comes from the shills that actually just want to see number go up, when it people should really be \_using\_ it to buy and sell things.

Spitipoti

If the company produces any form of profit, by definition the stock has to be worth at least as much as the profit it generates annually - whether they distribute them or keep them inside the company itself. The market is efficient (although not perfectly efficient) so you can rest assured that somebody will buy your stock if the company is healthy. The same can't be said for BTC, as BTC doesn't produce any profit.

ourcryptotalk

Just another entity for the market to track and crash when they sell their BTC

ourcryptotalk

What did the all knowing tell you? $BTC to $1M when?

pfftlolbrolollmao

With BTC there most certainly is a pattern. It's 4 year cycles. Zooming in any closer is random.

pfftlolbrolollmao

When the last BTC is mined.

Cinq_A_Sept

It’s also v wet y possible that Spcx -‘d the Anthropic IPOs will take a lot more of BTC market share this round. There is a REAL. Competition for funds and people like to chase the shiny new object, which right now is NOT BTC. I’m holding, but will not be buying until we see $$30- $35 K. There’s long therm upside (especially after Spcx crashes hard), but right now? No way.

Freeloader_

>OP shits himself OP being a paperhanded wuss doesnt make the loan bad, it just proves his risk tolerance and knowledge is weak >Paid 60k for BTC and now it's 20k... so? it will go up eventually

zkrooky

Zoom out to BTC's full life. Bottoming at $40-50K USD American Dollars is not impossible.

Moto_Musashi

So basically waiting a couple days for millions of dollars is not worth $10k right now? Yeah, I’d say each person gets exactly what they would deserve. If you think $10k right now is worth more for you, more power to ya. Ima walk off in stride with my (BTC is currently $65,772) $6,577,200 worth of BTC a couple days later. But knowing my mindset is that far removed from these peoples’ mindsets, I wouldn’t even be cashing out. I’d be taking that 100 BTC to the next ATH and retire my whole family and all their kids. People debating this are not in their right minds.

Efficient_Culture569

OP takes a loan to buy Bitcoin thinking we're at the bottom.... We probably are, but let's say unfortunately in about 6 months, for unpredictable reasons it happens that Strategy goes under or something else happens ans bitcoin drops to 40, 30, 20k... OP shits himself. Paid 60k for BTC and now it's 20k... And in case OP takes a loan to DCA, then just DCA as if it was monthly payments.  Because you can't predict the future, its a gamble you're taking. 

baIIern

Calm down, BTC is at 65k. Whoever sold above 85k is still fine

AU-n-Time

Absolutely spot on with the correction analysis here. I am buying as much as I can because I have been here before as well with "blood in the streets". We should see another fantastic bull run starting at the end of this year or early 2027 and it will be a rocket run!! Keep on stacking and HODL with the most diamond of hands and you will be so glad you did. Go BTC!!!!

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows. If these micro caps can exceed 100x growth from here, I will be able to retire my bloodline if I want to.

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows.

IdleHandsRapidFlight

People are delusional. Stagnant money is lost money.  Banks, or even big tech corporate stock has made 1000% plus dividends in the same time frame.  A weekly DCA of bitcoin since 2019 has only returned 200% and returns per cycle have decreased. People arbitrarily say things like "if you bought low and sold high, BTC was peak" which is asinine because the same is true with if you timed the market on anything...

Goldface_Pharaoh

Im doing the same thing. I think BTC might go down to 20k - 40k. And I will get to buy 1 or 2 bitcoin when that happens. Then I just wait until the price goes back up and sell enough to pay off the loan. If you can make the payments its all good. Plus this opportunity only comes once ever 4 years. Gotta have big nuts though. Its not for the easily shaken.

bimbobandit2016

Just need a god candle on BTC to flip sentiment completely. Adding around $10k in a week should do it

bbaked420XD

So ur telling us u have all ur money in BTC, eh?

CoinXtreme

It is true, BTC will raise in future

Em0tionisdeader

Right there with you. Could you imagine if Nano was the genesis instead of BTC? What would've happened if it was Nano Valve took a chance on in accepting for payments? No fees, no wait times just frictionless, decentralized payments accessible to anyone in the world.

freedomforallergo

You must be new, it's been dropping for 6 years (besides BTC and ETH)

Big_Floor281

I'm from Argentina, I really understand, but generally speaking, I use guttural words; that's what I can do to earn some money for now. Could you tell me how much it would take to become a millionaire by buying BTC? Thanks.

ds3101

Every week I’m buying KAS (Kaspa), SOL, and BTC. I weight my weekly DCA something like 90% BTC, 8% KAS, 2% SOL

Fiat128sl

Yep… will be redrawing equity in my home loan for BTC in Sept and throwing it in. That portion of the home loan being used as an investment will be tax deductible then we keep repaying the payments as we have been and sell the BTC (or most of it) in 2029… home loan gets paid off and we get the profits (after tax). Only borrow what you can afford to “lose”, will only be a loss if BTC doesn’t do anything ever again.

Character_Alfalfa439

Patiently waiting for BTC to break its previous ATH.

heinzmoleman

I took out a HELOC a long time ago to buy BTC. No regrets. Never sold the BTC though, I made sure the payments were affordable.

biggest_guru_in_town

ETH,XRP,SOL. Blue chips only. No shitcoins. No high risk. I'm not rich nor in a first world country. Shitcoin stacking is suicide. 60% BTC 30% ETH 10% anything else. I'm thinking about what survives Ina decade. I'm not after profits. I am treating them as assets to be accumulated. I'm only after bears. The original intended purpose of crypto, not fiat.

TastyTrading

BTC bout to finally MOON!!! Load up boys, this is the crypto winter. Didn’t realize we just needed to strap up to a rocket!!! 🤣 🚀🚀🚀

Alive-Yak9875

YES it is. I willl buy your BTC if you are chicken

Far_Tiger_2862

The whole BTC cycle is like 3 steps forward 2 steps backward, in order to test new ATH/ATL. Average people get caught up in the noise and forget how the cycles work. Don’t be average people.

PersonalityTotal2107

Cosmos currently, probably getting some Chainlink and Avalanche this week but mostly accumulating more BTC ETH and SOL

Arphinator

BTC is supposed to fix the monetary system, not drive you into its greedy arms.

Few-Engineering9803

Take a look at BTC's 10 year CAGR and tell me it's hilarious.

BQbaobao

For all the people always wondering what news caused XYZ, I recently came across a website called Financial Juice. Finally made me feel like I’m not completely in the dark every time BTC spikes (or any other major indices / commodities etc for that matter). It’s usually a few minutes lagged so you can’t really trade the info, but jt helps me to process what to do next. I suppose there probably a paid version without the time lag but I’m too cheap.

LibertyWithLiquidity

Saylor so mad at the 32 BTC debatte, that he probably bought another 3,200 coins to prove a point.

lotekjunky

When you look at the quarterly for SOLBTC, what do you see? I see a fallimg knife about to lose 30% against BTC. https://preview.redd.it/apvmsigkjb7h1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d9ba0d3bc9c423ac98adf4b7df8313fc0e81c095

financeguruIB

Yes. I have lol. The ones i hold have a great chart. Both against $USD AND $BTC and they are already trending up. Not all alts will recover but with some due diligence and research you can find the ones that will do well next cycle.

lotekjunky

have you looked at the BTC pairs??????????

Alternative_Sky6274

My crystal ball says BTC going to be 1m at the end of the year when AI bubble pops but $TRUMP will be 10b.

Wild-Delay6212

Try to send money to Russia with your EU IBAN thru SEPA. chance it will never arrive. BTC is the best way to send value outside Europe.

Necessary-Summer-348

The real story isn't the seizure — it's that 10k BTC moved on-chain and didn't break anything. Network handled it, no cascade, no drama. That's the kind of stress test people forget to talk about when they worry about Bitcoin's resilience.

xcrunner2414

The first time I learned about Bitcoin, and bought a little was almost exactly 10 years ago. It was mid-2016, price was less than $1000. I discovered it indirectly, through my discovery of Tor and the darknet markets. Purely for satisfying my own curiosity, mind you, I didn't buy any hardcore drugs. In late 2016 I realized the exchange rate of Bitcoin had increased, and at the time I was actively investing in the stock market and so I viewed Bitcoin as a potential alternative investment, so I bought 1 or 2 whole BTC around Christmas-time 2016. I remember the dip that happened in the first week of January 2017, I think it was due to some China crackdown or something.

lotekjunky

Why would you accumulate ANY alts before BTC bottoms out?

Away-Ant7779

BTC ETH LINK thats it

justadud3x

Way too low reward. You need to up it to like 5BTC for someone to spend serious compute and time.

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC every single day the price doesn’t matter

spraif

it;s historic observation, there is clear cyclical behaviour of BTC, mainly driven by human psychology. It may be useless tomorrow but so are most things in life, if we decide they are useless

financeguruIB

Crazy bag right there. You will likely outperform BTC

financeguruIB

Nice. BTC maxi ?

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC everyday and chill price doesn’t matter

Intelligent_Net_2786

My other bags: BTC, Eth, LInk, Sol, Hype, XLM, ZEC, Tao

J5966358

Early 2017. Sold a small percentage in October last year. Bought back the same amount of BTC already and have some cash now. Took me three (or four?) cycles to understand how the sell button works apparently 😂 

AmazingfurnitureCT

90% BTC most everything else is a sh\*t coin

Constant_Wet69

HBAR, RENDER, LINK, Solana, INJ (Injective Protocol) Then I have some ETH and BTC

St0uty

> BTC can be obtained without getting it from somebody else, even when the last coin has been mined. Yeah you can also get nano (or any currency) from somebody else by getting a job and working for it

Anonimo1sdfg

BTC 25% ( in x2 etf BITX) BNB 20% ( in x2 etf XBNB) BGB 20% HYPE 15% OKB 10% SOL 10% ( in x2 etf SOLT)

Glittering-Local-147

BTC can be obtained without getting it from somebody else, even when the last coin has been mined. Thanks for playing

Popapalooza

XLM, TAO, BTC, XRP, HBAR, Chainlink

financeguruIB

True. BTC is king after all. Do you think it will hit a million by 2029

theenecros

Been around since Bitcoin was $10 in 2012, so 4 cycles. Mined my first one with my video card in 2 weeks in Slush's pool. A bit of advice? Step back and look at the bigger picture. Learn the 4 year cycles and plan accordingly, follow Plan B, he knows what's up. Treat BTC like real estate, there will only ever be 21 million, get you yours. Not going to lie, Bitcoin is a crazy roller-coaster ride. Pay for the ticket, take the ride. Keep diamond hands (I wish I did) and you will have something to show for it.