BTC

HarmonyFlame

No dude, down priced in bitcoin…..AS IN ETH/BTC hahahahahahha you don’t even know what that is do you? 🤣

Successful_Taro8587

I have about 3x more BTC than cash right now...

Gerbrandodo

Yes, I do not expect this is a good timing. Eth is expect to go to $3000,- to $5000,- in coming 1-2 months. So 2-3 x. BTC maybe 1,5x. Better stay in alt, and then exchange to BTC somewhere in the running year after Erh/ Alt increase.

Bwu1207

1 BTC. Let’s not spread the losing mentality of always moving the goalpost whenever it’s convenient. The average person can get there. It’s just going to take more sacrifices.

cache-crypto

Well, the most reasonable reason to be a skeptic is the liquidity of it. They probably think that the liquidity of bitcoin as the primary driver of price makes it hard to see it as a solid investment. I mean most of the price of btc is just the supply and demand aspect of it and then that the liquidity is fluctuating. At the end of the day, it’s two sides of the same coin. I think that BTC is a good investment but it’s not because I think it’s worth 94k. I think it’s what BTC can do for the world. It’s a great way to stabilize unstable markets and gives people the ability to get out of terrible situations of great economic volatility. So I’d say buy BTC bc it’s a great tool for the worlds economic health

01010101010111000111

The supply could be increased by 100,000 BTC, or the cap removed entirely. It can be done with a single commit of about 10 lines to the Bitcoin Core repository. Supply is not being increased because code owners do not want to decrease the value of their holdings, nothing else.

forgot_usrname

10BTC

Blkout50

Nope! 1 BTC is the NEW 1 BTC. Always been that way!

Zizou1516

It went to all time high after he was elected something like 65k to 108k but that does not fit the narrative. So to fit the narrative we will take the time frame when he was inaugurated and on that period BTC is down to currently 95k. Not a fan of orange man but articles like this annoy me.

ReasonablePossum_

BTC is basically at the same level it was before him, WTF is this bs?

WFSTUDIOS

Use a giant electromagnet to ensure that old hard drive is broken and have everyone permanently remove that 8000 BTC from their list of total existing bitcoin

trempao

I am guessing that probably people were treating BTC as if it was poker chips back inbthe day, like not even knowing what that even was really. That's why some people may have 1 btc or more. This must have been a gambling degenerate circus

fractalfocuser

Very valid analysis. You've got me trying to guestimate volume on TTTXX right now. My quick thoughts are that a money market fund like this typically doesn't need HFT because it's not trading on volatility as much. Truth be told though I know fuck all about trading T-Bills. The other thing is that any use is good use. Tokenizing assets is a good thing for Eth whether or not it brings in huge gas fees. I'm not a price speculator but while I agree with you it's not paradigm changing it sure feels like this is good news for Eth. I've read some of your posts and you do seem to have a lot of insight but also seem like a BTC maxi. I've got two questions if you'd indulge me, Do you think BTC is the only crypto worth investing in right now? Also what do you think BTC's value proposition is? Genuinely curious because you seem like a smart guy and it's really rare to get insight in this sub anymore, as evidenced by the other replies to your comment. I hold BTC but don't consider myself a maxi, it feels like BTC maximalism is condemning any use case of blockchain beyond a single SOV asset, do you feel that way?

SeemedGood

No, in my analogy DLT is the internet and BTC (like AOL) is an early market leading and comparatively deficient system of access to the underlying tech. And the BTC maxis make the same arguments excusing an inferior product as the AOL maxis did back in 1997.

erjo5055

40-50k unless quantum computing breaks BTC, any other reason and that number holds

longonbtc

Exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Crypto.com chooses to charge an outrageously large bitcoin withdrawal fee of 0.0004 BTC. Some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee. [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month. Crypto.com chooses to charge one of the largest bitcoin withdrawal fees and Crypto.com also chooses to charge a large spread. Those outrageously large bitcoin withdrawal fees are just extra income for Crypto.com. How do you think they afford to pay for all of that marketing like the television commercials, celebrity endorsements, and the Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles. Crypto.com paid $700 million to have that arena in Los Angeles named after them. I recommend you to buy bitcoin from a better exchange that charges a lower bitcoin withdrawal fee.

NotFunyyAtALL

Taking loans, seeling your car or house to buy BTC is not an investment anymore, its gambling!

Significant_Mousse53

Most had X BTC and then sold (X-1) BTC. Quite simple, actually.

Longjumping-Desk9323

I would imagine a 3000BTC+ market buy would cause an immediate freeze for an unknown entity, at least when they try to immediately withdraw

tradinghabits89

But , there is the possibility the alts are the highest they will go or already on the way down and when BTC is cheaper the alts are gonna be 70% down

Blooberino

They're cherry picking the date to make the headline. BTC was 75k on election day, then spent weeks climbing to 108k, and now it's 95k. So if you take the election date, BTC is 20k higher. But I'm cherry picking that date too. So it's all about how you want to make the news sound.

tradinghabits89

I feel ya, I'm in the same boat. But I'm 90% alts 10% BTC

xcrunner2414

Buy 0.5 BTC. Then dollar-cost-average the remaining funds into Bitcoin, $30 per day. At that rate, you'll spend 4 years dollar-cost-averaging into Bitcoin, so if it turns down into a Bear Market tomorrow then you won't have to worry because you'll be buying all the dips. If it keeps going up, great, you already put half your savings into it already.

Humble-Tomatillo6408

2 BTC

hosea_they_heysus

Here's my stepping stones: .05BTC, .1BTC, .2BTC, .3BTC.... 1BTC, 1.1BTC...10BTC, 10.1BTC.... ETC.

tacotweezday

Holy shit if I would have kept my 12 BTC in 2014 on this planet

Due-Dog5695

The stock market is not exponential. All new disruptive technologies show a similar adoption curve with the trend showing an acceleration of the rate of adoption through time (recent technology propagates faster -> https://medium.com/@kjirstecm/how-fast-does-technology-change-78d41). First, understand what a historic accomplishment it to organically grow into a 2 trillion dollar asset over 15ish years. This is without any kind of corporate structure, marketing team, brand placement or insiders of any kind. Over this time the hashrate has grown to nearly 1000 EH/s. We are seeing corporations starting to use BTC as a corporate treasury assets, states are buying, wealth fund are buys, nation states are buying, the US is starting a strategic reserve and you are asking, is there demand?

One-Willow-7350

The number of long term holders has dipped more and more with each consecutive significant rally leading to ATH. The structure built after November 5th was also supported immensely by a few massive players moving in. BTC swapped from long term hodlers to the hands of a few aggressive institutional buyers. And this has been happening for some time now (previous cycle included). What else did you expect? OG long term holders never to take profits? Of course they will. And they will continue to. Price will climb beyond reasonable reach for retail, and institutions will accumulate naturally. BTC is not in the hands of retail anymore, and you can blame that on human nature.

electionknight

I think borrowing money to exchange to BTC is a mistake. I'm sure the naysayers here will see "it worked for me" etc. When I see these posts I can't help but interpret them as get rich quick. BTC has been relegated to a store of value, like gold. It's not like borrowing money for a rental property that is going to provide you yield. It's probably better to just DCA and not put yourself into debt over it.

planetlighter

Do your own research, you'll find a lot of people shilling in these subreddits so stay vigilant. And if you're new to crypto, just hold BTC while you learn

DivineMatrixTraveler

But what exchanges would allow BTC to XMR swaps without KYC? If they used multiple exchanges then there should be KYC and therefore an identity.

DreamingTooLong

BTC was $64K election night today it’s $94K anyone that purchased bitcoin before election day is doing just fine

Low-Introduction-565

you have ignored my arguments, which cast considerable doubt on your thesis. Don't pretend like you have some sort of secret knowledge like some sort of Scientology knockoff. Everyone knows about exponential growth. The stock market is exponential and I am pretty sure everyone knows about that. Everyone knows about 21m BTC. The question is, is there demand? And since most of it is circlejerkers selling it to each other, the best you can say is that most demand is speculation driven as opposed to any real world demand, which would indeed make the fixed supply much more interesting.

spilltrend

Bitcoin Faucet in 2010. They gave it away to boost adoption. Ridiculous, right? [BTC Faucet](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/s/AAjzvhPdjS)

Ravynmagi

0.420 BTC dude!

Yesthisisdogmeow

They might gate keep the tech but will 100% sell the energy to other nations for huge profits. Markets will stabilize, other nations get their fusion reactors online, with new compitition markets will stabilize price. BTC is now cheaper to mine. More miners come online. Hash rate sky rockets. Difficulty also skyrockets. BTC network more reliable and strong.

Different_Walrus_574

April 30th 2024 BTC Price: $60,636.86 April 30th 2025 BTC Price: $94,571.88 It’s up by +$33,935.02

GaRGa77

Been here since 2018 and I hold no alts any more, I would have more BTC if I never did..

Ok_Rent_2937

Yup, but 1/3 of the year is over, and BTC is down so far

Show_Kitchen

Sooo, Bitcoin is a US government thing now? (enter BTC conspiracy astronaut meme: "Always has been" )

buybtcforgodsake

I killed someone by throwing ASIC on his head, so BTC also have multiple uses.

Warrior4Jah777

Without deciding on your risk appetite and the horizon you are looking for no advice is possible. If you can't stomach dips or only want to keep it for 1 or 2 years, then buying 1 whole BTC = timing the market. You would be speculating for short time gains while we are well into the bull cycle (in my opinion). Also when you intend to sell a big part of your bitcoin because you have a short term savings goal you might end up selling at the wrong time. Are you in for long term? I would say 10+ years and do you have cash set aside in case of emergencies? By all means buy 1 BTC now and don't bother DCAing. If you have 5 years horizon you can either DCA smaller amounts. Personally I would wait till the next bear market and then DCA in 3 or 4 chunks per quarter or so. In the longer run you will have more then 1 BTC with the same amount of cash. If you mistimed the bottom you are still close by. By the way, I would always want to HODL some bitcoin.

Asleep_Onion

That sounds like "BTC millionaires erased themselves by making poorly timed rash decisions"

Original_Lab628

This is cope to think 1BTC is unaffordable, lol...

carlos76234

Crazy to see that those 3BTC are $296k atm

cache-crypto

do you have the humility to admit we are saying the same thing about SAT AND BTC? That the only thing we truly are arguing is your understanding of what I am saying? WHICH IS: SAT is a smaller and easier unit to make FIAT exchanges with. That it being relative to BTC provides stability in its exchange value. That it is much easier to sell and buy because of its natural liquidity. And, that SAT is much easier to process than BTC because it's naturally 1/1000000 the size of a BTC.

thaiboy_digital

So basically they had 10 BTC at ath and now it's worth slightly less than a million?

GhostEntropy

TIL one month of BTC dominance drop is alt season

erjo5055

Its still 1 BTC

Asleep_Onion

BTC is only down like 7% from its ATH, and is exactly the same price it was on 1/1/2025, so how exactly did 20,000 BTC millionaires get "erased"?

Sufficient-Day-4894

Been watching since 2019 as well, got into a bunch of crypto then but didn’t get BTC until 2023 🐸

Asleep_Onion

Okay but BTC is exactly the same price today as it was on 1/1/2025, so how exactly did 20,000 BTC millionaires get "erased"?

thistimelineisweird

I'm not trading my alts to btc yet purely because I think I'll make more on my alts right now. That said, every time I take profit, I move a little of each sale to BTC.

red98GTSR

Even if the onus is on you to swear you don't have it anymore, why NOT conjoin? Also, how do you buy BTC off someone? I mean how do you find people wanting to sell peer to peer?

EthicsGradient009

Depends on your long view of BTC. If BTC goes to 1mil then this would seem cheap right now.

onlyherefortheclout

"my friend" may have sold their house during COVID boim, bought BTC around $20k and rented the last few years. My friend could now buy his old house back plus two rental units, but has chosen to not sell the BTC.

Ethicles

The average cost of a new car is a reasonable and attainable goal for people. So I would say it’s right at 0.5 BTC currently.

1_BigPapi

The time to do that was long ago. BTC Dominance is approaching historic highs. That doesn't mean it can't go higher but we are seeing heavier flows entering alts again, and Saylor + Trump can only pump BTC so high unless other countries collectively sign on to their prediction of the future. That said, I think BTC is generally decoupling from crypto and on it's way to a volatile general store of value asset akin to gold. I'd start looking at alts independent of them.

BtcOverBchs

If I were you I would look at charts of BTC/vs your alt of choice. 99%+ lose value to BTC and will continue to.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

Yes if you plan on long term. Just look at a bunch of BTC/alt charts. 99%+ lose to BTC. That's not even accounting for taxes either. If you buy BTC and hold long term then you'll pay less tax if you sell. I had a ton of alts. I even did a 10x, lots of 5x's some 3x and 2x, but it didn't make up for the ones that lost 80%+. I still made money overall and I sold all my alts. But I had just bought Bitcoin I would've been up over 3x total. Instead I am up 1.5x and had to pay taxes, most were long term cap gains too. Also my Bitcoin bag would've been 3x what it is. Aside from just the money too the best imo advantage is not having to do endless research on alts every damn day to try to find the next 100x. Having to research max supply, circulating supply, token unlocks, token distributions, keeping up with white paper timeline and events, etc.. is a fucking hassle.

electionknight

Buying everyday as a DCA is generally more a psychological choice than anything else. I don't have the source, but I've read that weekly is better than daily historically when DCA. I use Strike as I am able to get a portion of direct deposit auto converted to BTC, then, you can set automatic transfer thresholds to cold storage - truly a set it and forget it. Then I just buy at other random times when ever it makes sense, windfall, dip, etc.

SeemedGood

Correct. And the reality is that the BTC Core dev team has intentionality developed BTC *away* from being a P2PDC and explicitly stated as much, leaving it without fundamental utility relative to its competitors.

Different_Walrus_574

Warren Buffet said BTC is just a gimmick that will die out soon

spioh

0.1 BTC.

liquid_at

When bitcoin dominance is going up, it means that comparably, bitcoin is expensive and alts are cheap. So, if you rephrase your question to "Should I sell my Alts cheap to buy expensive BTC", you might feel less of an urge.

Eurothrift

If you stake, farm, yield or other you can always use the dividends to put into other alts or projects you can get behind. Let the BTC you have work for you.

Bran_Ham

I have a very unusual story for this! I bought my first PC right before covid and during covid I started mining dogecoin with my friends. I got really interested in the world of crypto and bought 1k of eth. I continued working my ass off in high school. Saving around 18k. Which I left in my bank account gaining 0.02% interest. Wasn't anywhere close to beating inflation and I knew I was losing real purchasing value everyday. I began to read more and more on bitcoin and after FTX crashed I used my mothers Robinhood account and bought 5k work of btc for a period of about a month. This was whenever bitcoin was at 16-17k. I have held on to a little over 1 BTC ever since. I made that investment because I believed in what BTC represented. Decentralization and a track record for blockchain efficiency and safety. But, I also made that investment because I could! I lived with my parents who were supplementing most of my income. I was very aggressive in my bitcoin investing. But I wouldn't say that's the best method. Buy bitcoin in an amount that won't be detrimental to other things you have to take care of like rent, insurance, food, etc. Keep buying small amounts of bitcoin over a long period of time. Get a cold storage wallet and every time you buy bitcoin transfer it to the cold storage wallet. Remember don't ever share your security keys. But, I am just a college student sharing my own journey and suggestion based upon the situation I found myself in when i started investing. Everyone is different. Even if the amount of BTC you are buying is small. Small motion is always better than no motion. Do what works best for you and do you due diligence when investing always!

Ok_Rent_2937

Yes, but if it has become so stable, maybe there is not much upside either. Bye bye $1M BTC?

Veganarchyst

The best time to buy is always yesterday. Or some other day. Just have to suck it up and decide to do something Or you can choose to dollar cost average overall that is the best way to invest But there's a high likelihood somewhere between now and the end of the year BTC will make some big moves up But, if you buy .15 every month and it does collapse along the way, you'll feel good having bought low and mid and high so it evens out, rather than accidentally buying the whole thing at the highest spot But just remember, in the future, all the anguish right now of when to buy will seem ridiculous when it's $500,000 a coin Just like it did when people agonized over buying one at $13,000 I would bet everyone right now would kill to buy one at $13k But back then, that was crazy money expensive for BTC that used to be only $400 so it made people feel like they were screwing themselves Two to 4 yrs later tho, they felt like geniuses as it skyrocketed to $40k and $69k It's all relative and time makes everything feel very different Just HODL No matter what Don't buy it at $94,000 and then freak out and sell it at $72,000 because it falls Hold on. Those who hold long term are the Jedi masters and are rewarded

dogMeatBestMeat

Let's say the dollar starts to collapse and purchasing power takes a dive. This means people need more dollars for the same amount of goods. If people still need the goods, wouldn't they need to sell assets to raise more dollars for the goods? And if Bitcoin is the premiere world asset (yes, it is), would it be immune to being sold off to pay for higher expenses on needed goods? I don't think so. BTC should correlate with falls in stocks and USD purchasing power because USD bag holders need to shed assets to keep up consumption. A stronger dollar and surging stocks leads to surging BTC because people have more free USD to put into assets.

ax57ax57

My huge log chart failure from 2021: [https://www.tradingview.com/chart/WwDnsjY4/](https://www.tradingview.com/chart/WwDnsjY4/) $BTC has some serious catching up to do...

KaspaNow

You guys should be looking into Kaspa. It solved the trilemma. BTC and Ethereum have not. When kaspa gets listed on the major exchanges (likely soon based on anon wallet #2) it’s going to fly

na3than

This is getting tiring. Are you really this bad at basic math? John wants to exchange 100000 ARS for Bitcoin. Your exchange says the exchange rate is 1500000000 ARS : 1 BTC, with a 0.05% fee. John trades 100000 ARS for 0.00006633 BTC, paying 50 ARS in fees. Julia wants to exchange 100000 ARS for satoshis. Your exchange says the exchange rate is 15 ARS : 1 sat, with a 0.05% fee. Julia trades 100000 ARS for 6633 sats, paying 50 ARS in fees. John paid 50 ARS to turn 100000 ARS into 0.00006633 BTC (6633 sats). Julia paid 50 ARS to turn 100000 ARS into 0.00006633 BTC (6633 sats). Using satoshis DID NOT cut the cost of commission fee. Using Bitcoins DID NOT make the price of the exchange higher. Using satoshis DID NOT cut the price for us and them to exchange their currency.

TegridyGamer

If it's an investment youre looking forward. Historically BTC has risen even after falling to scary levels. Crypto is volatile and BTC is no different. If you feel like you want an entire BTC, I'd say go for it. Nobody can predict the markets. If I had 90k or whatever BTC is rn. I'd personally put it into real estate. But that's not the question you asked. FOMO is real and youre just gonna have to trust your gut with your question. Only you know how to invest your money. Know the risks, know what your willing to risk. Idk, I hope this helps.

Zolty

10 BTC

Financial_Clue_2534

On a global scale the median wealth is $9k so I would say saving 50% of your wealth that’s $4.5k which puts you around .05 BTC

cosmogatsby

Teach me. I’m just holding bags rn. - Chainlink - Hbar - Uniswap - BTC - ETH - SOL - XRP - AVAX - ADA - DOT I toss $100 at each one, per week. Unless prices are super low, I try to get more. Or if prices hit a high, I sell some (did this with XRP). Then I’m just waiting the long game. Bad idea?

Playful-Cable9140

agreed. But once BTC gets to like 250k, everyday people aren't looking to get ahold of 1 whole Btc, they'll be looking at fractions of BTC realistically, as the new target instead I said this in another comment but you are right brother , just meant as new target goals as the price moves up in the near future!

JJinMaine

Over the last 10 years, my Edward Jones IRA made some good profits in tech and EV stocks. A couple of months ago, I took about $100K of that profit and did a partial IRA rollover to an Unchained / Fortis IRA when BTC was about $83K. Keep stacking!

Nothing-Busy

The new 1 BTC is 1 BTC in cold storage and half a BTC of exposure in your Roth IRA held ETF.

NashDaypring1987

Respect to any average Joe who cashed out their life savings of a few hundred thousand to buy a few BTC :)

Acceptable_Primary56

I started buying in late 2017 when the price was $4k-$17k, and kept buying as much as I can through the end of the bull market. When the price crashed, I bought more. I believed in BTC when I learned about it and didn't blow money on other things. I got a cheap, modest EV so I didn't blow money on gas, and I didn't go on vacations or buy anything expensive.

NJ0000

If nobody will want to sell and billions want to buy the value of 1 BTC is like Schrödingers cat……like $0 and $whatever the highest price is at the same time. That doesn’t sounds good….

acorcuera

You’ll be better off with BTC than any other investment though, except maybe MSTR (I have both). BTC is the apex investment.

Playful-Cable9140

agreed. But once BTC gets to like 250k, everyday people aren't looking to get ahold of 1 whole Btc, they'll be looking at fractions of BTC realistically, as the new target instead .

kagekyaa

you can go tradingview and look at LinkBTC, HbarBTC, XRPBTC yourself. linkbtc peak Aug2020. price right now similar to Jun2019. hbarntc peak sep2021. price similar to early 2023-2024. Xrpbtc peak jan2018 or may17. price basically similar to 2013. they are called shitcoin for a reason. they do not perform better than BTC. so, if you dont trade, just invest BTC.

ADottore8533

New BTC?? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 1 BTC has always been 1 BTC, it is still 1 BTC and will always continue to be 1 BTC... What may continue to vary, in my opinion, will be its equivalent value, utility, application, uses and so on. Please correct me if I am wrong, or I have not understood the question. 🙏 Thank you.

TooMuchEntertainment

ITT: People who have bought btc some time from 2020 and now and have 0.1 BTC.

amir95fahim

1 BTC will always be 1 BTC 🧡

Efficient_Culture569

1 BTC is still 1 BTC. Don't think it'll ever change

LegendaryJohnny

I am overall bearish but I think we will see decent pumps next week and BTC over 100k. If there won't be rate cut already there will be at least hint of rate cuts during summer. I don't think this is priced yet. Well at least there will be some usual pump and dump. But overall I dont think its good move to 'sell in may' this time before serie of rate cuts.

NashDaypring1987

Didn't realize it fell below $10k during Covid crash. Congrats! Keep silent about Fight Club :) For your own safety. I think with time it'll get even more risky/dangerous to let people know you have BTC even more so a large amount.

logicbomb666

BTC was free on ebay. All you had to do was pay the seller then tell ebay you never received the product. The seller has no tracking label showing anything was physically delivered so ebay sided with the buyer every single time and forced the money to be refunded.

quintavious_danilo

Sure but why would that make the coin surge? It’ll go up when BTC goes up and double down when BTC is in bear. Better buy BTC instead.

HeavyHittersShow

OP: Should I buy Bitcoin? Subreddit full of BTC hodlers: this fucking guy!

HuffDaddy009

The point is that shovels are made for digging just like BTC was made to be a store of value. It doesn’t need to do anything else to be useful.

kagekyaa

The game for most people is always stacking BTC as much as you can. look at the BTC pair and coin dominance. ETH is losing ground to other alts. so, Uniswap is also losing. altcoins is not for investing, it is always for trading to get more BTC. only 2 coins beating BTC pair at the moment, SOL and SUI. not sure if its for long. so, buy bitcoin.

NashDaypring1987

I would imagine they were an early adopter or just rich and want to diversify into another asset class. For a rich person, buying a few BTC even at $95k wouldn't be a big deal.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Blockchain investigator ZachXBT uncovered a $330 million Bitcoin theft from an elderly American via a social engineering scam. Attackers stole 3,520 BTC, routed them through six exchanges, and converted them into Monero, causing a price spike. Social engineering exploits human trust to gain wallet access, highlighting vulnerabilities in user protection. The incident raises concerns about compliance gaps in exchanges and may prompt federal investigation. ZachXBT continues tracking the funds and urging platforms to identify involved accounts. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Maleficent_Sound_919

So : # ADP Employment Change 62K vs 115K Expected, Core PCE Prices Advance 3.5% vs 3.1% Expected Dow jones dumps -2% BTC also dumps And yet here we are a few hours later Dow jones -0,27% Tell me how this market is not totally delusional