BTC

Ge_Yo

BTC and ETH make sense. Any thoughts on QANX for the remaining 10%? I think the focus on post-quantum security gives it a strong fundamental case.

hoop254

With BTC, things are not usually as they seem. In my opinion (NFA), yes, it is a fine time to open a long position in BTC, but be prepared for a potential 20-30% drop before the next bull market begins.

Staggeredmk4

What happened is in your title. Your seed was compromised and they stole your BTC. You can follow the trail from addresses, but good luck actually tracking it down. Did you have your seed stored digitally? A digital photo of it?

ChangeHeroOfficial

Classic Saylor 😄 he's been consistent on this, BTC is a store of value, not a yield product

ChangeHeroOfficial

Even if it doesn't lead to immediate action, the fact that central banks are discussing Bitcoin as a reserve asset shows how much the conversation around BTC has evolved over the years

That1voider

Per all the analysis/opinions I’ve listened to as well as my own knowledge as I’ve been following closely since 2020, my prediction is a bottom of 47k in early November. I’ve increased my DCA amount by 5x and looking to lump sum a good chunk of change before the holidays. I’m being decidedly reckless this year. I’m nearing 30 years old and despite a good job in the top percentile of my age, I cannot afford a home in my area. Of all the risky plays I could make to increase my wealth, I understand BTC the most & believe it has the best chance of changing my situation. Gl to all

quebeckkk

Well, you either follow up with them, or alternatively, without any access for the HD, you abondon the idea to recover your BTC from the HD.

Pistarino17

# Confronto neutrale: Fiat vs Bitcoin # Moneta Fiat (€, $) **Cosa la sostiene davvero** * **Obbligo fiscale**: lo Stato impone tasse → devi procurarti quella valuta o vai in prigione * **Corso legale**: per legge nessuno può rifiutarla per pagare debiti * **Monopolio della violenza statale**: tribunali, polizia, esecuzioni forzate * **Sistema bancario a riserva frazionaria**: il credito crea domanda continua di valuta **Punti deboli** * **Inflazione**: le banche centrali possono stampare a volontà (M2 USD +40% nel 2020-2022) * **Censurabile**: conti congelabili (es. camionisti canadesi 2022, sanzioni) * **Svalutazione storica**: lira → 2000:1 vs marco tedesco in 50 anni * **Richiede fiducia nello Stato emittente** (vedi Argentina, Venezuela, Libano, Turchia) # Bitcoin **Cosa lo sostiene davvero** * **Scarsità matematica**: massimo 21 milioni, non modificabile * **Decentralizzazione**: nessuna autorità può stamparne di più o congelarlo * **Effetto rete**: \~15 anni di storia, \~$1-2 trilioni di capitalizzazione, milioni di utenti * **Costo di produzione reale**: il mining consuma energia elettrica misurabile (≈150 TWh/anno) * **Adozione istituzionale**: ETF spot approvati (USA gennaio 2024), riserve aziendali (MicroStrategy, Tesla) **Punti deboli** * **Volatilità estrema**: -80% nel 2022, pessimo come unità di conto a breve termine * **Velocità transazioni**: \~7 TPS on-chain (Visa ne fa migliaia) → richiede Lightning Network * **Consumo energetico**: dibattito aperto su sostenibilità * **Concentrazione**: \~2% degli indirizzi detiene \~95% dei BTC * **Rischio regolatorio**: gli Stati possono limitarne l'uso (Cina l'ha bannato)

SheKnows9797

Honestly your current approach already sounds closer to “responsible long-term allocation” than most people in crypto. The main thing I’d be careful about is changing it just for “tidying it up” rather than because your thesis on any of those assets has changed. A few thoughts: * BTC heavy + ETH + some privacy exposure (XMR/ZEC) already gives you diversification across different narratives * SOL/BNB are more ecosystem / platform bets, so swapping into them is less about simplification and more about shifting conviction * “Set and forget” only works if you’re actually comfortable holding through full cycles without reacting to short-term sentiment If anything, the bigger question is not “should I condense” but “do I still believe each of these has a reason to exist in my portfolio 5–10 years from now?” If yes, there’s not a strong need to optimize it further.

maxime_kaiser13

Probably the situation in the Strait of Ormuz is a part of the reason why BTC rebounds. However it is probably a temporary pump, let’s stay vigilant

Jrockareed

Lesson learned. I scratched my BTC info onto the inside of my dresser.

Andrewshwap

I’ve given up on alts. I’ve held onto alts since the 2021 drop. I sold some for profit but kept AVAX & others hoping to gain some more profit. Only alts I would consider are ETH, SOL, LINK, HBAR. I think I’ll just stick with BTC from now on

Alfador8

Yeah I don't think a ban is in the cards. I think they'll just incentivize and encourage the use of CBDCs (probably via UBI) and that will be enough. If it's not enough they may put onerous taxes on BTC to discourage its use among the masses while they (and people who understand what's happening) hoard it. In the long run it won't matter. Bitcoin is engineered to optimize the properties of good money and the consequences of that are inevitable.

TheresNoSecondBest

>On February 24th of that year I asked #bitcoin-otc to trade 2500 BTC for $25 and no one wanted I How many blocks did you mine overall before this date?

New_Answer7917

Why not get back in when BTC is low as fuck?

tadeup

BTC and ETH only, anything else to the dumpster

alfonsomg

BTC has been falling again for a few months, which, in spite of sounding weird, goes according to the plan

seaningtime

I think he's going to cause a massive crash in BTC one day

BuyIndependent2319

On February 24th of that year I asked #bitcoin-otc to trade 2500 BTC for $25 and no one wanted I

1moreApe

HYPE BTC ETH. Forget the rest

Soft-Contract1024

Spacex owns about 18,000 BTC on their balance sheets so it will only increase their value as well along with other revenues including starlink

Patient_Craft2195

This is actually an underrated point. The standard BTC dominance chart on TradingView includes stablecoins which artificially suppresses BTC's real market share. When you strip out USDT, USDC and other stablecoins the picture looks very different. People calling altseason based on dominance dropping should check which version of the chart they're looking at — they might just be watching stablecoin market share grow, not alts winning.

neuportal_ai

good catch actually checking the denominator, most people quoting BTC.D never do. stablecoins ballooning during chop mechanically drags dominance down even when nothing's changed for bitcoin itself — so "dominance falling" often just means people parked in USDT, not that alts are catching a bid. strip the stables out and look at BTC vs the real alt market cap and the picture flips more than half the time. it's one of the more misread charts out there honestly.

p0tsa

Everytime my dad says BTC is a scam, im going straight to market to buy some more. Im taking my dad insults as buy signals.

GeoSystemsDeveloper

**Daily crypto TL;DR:** * 🚀 US-Iran peace agreement reopening the Strait of Hormuz boosted risk sentiment and rallied crypto markets. * 🚀 Bitcoin price recovered and surged to a two-week high near $67,000 following the US-Iran deal. * 🚀 MicroStrategy purchased 1,587 additional BTC for $100 million, signaling strong institutional confidence. * 🚀 Altcoin market recovered as Ethereum and others mirrored Bitcoin's upward momentum with renewed risk appetite. *News summary from the* [*HODLings app*](https://www.geosystemsdev.com/products/hodlings/)*.*

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Phantasizer

Even if that were possible, if you didn’t manage to import it with the key on a piece of paper, why would it work now, with maybe a part of the key from your memory? I get that it’s tempting, but I would just accept that these 50 BTC are lost forever and you have to find another way to become a millionaire. 

Patient_Craft2195

Hate to say it but a private key is an extremely complex alphanumeric string. Even if hypnosis works for general memories, the human brain doesn't store random characters with that kind of precision — it's not like remembering a face or a feeling. The key is effectively gone. That said, at today's price that 50 BTC is worth \~$5M, so a session with a memory specialist costs a few hundred dollars — still worth the lottery ticket honestly.

BuyIndependent2319

I don’t even know what I would do if I had access to 50 BTC. Buy a Tesla maybe? I can do that anyway

GreenBullOne87

Dude I did the same thing. Over traded and lost a lot of money. Realized I would have made more if I wasn’t chasing green candles so I just held the coins I had. That didn’t work either lol. I turned $5k into $600 now. I got in at a bad time though also. I’ve been slowly starting to DCA into some of my better coins but for the most part I’ve just been buying a ton of BTC and ETH.

SpontaneousDream

hype once again the only coin making new ATHs against USD and BTC

Gr8WallofChinatown

I’ve been in the space since 2013. You are disingenuous. There is not much good in crypto. 1. A stupid statement. Traditional finance makes up the entire world of course there will be MLing. However, the entire preface of the existence of the origin crypto is to be a p2p alternative to banking system. It was originally designed to be a ML system. Especially (at the time) it was touted to be “privacy” (due to not knowing who owns the wallet address”. Now today it’s a bastardized world just designed to extract as much money as possible from the next person. 2. I personally think they shouldn’t own any stocks or crypto outside of a 401k. Bitcoin is a COI. You have grifting (mostly maga) politicians all pushing for bitcoin and for the government to buy bitcoin (and allow 401ks to buy bitcoin). You have BTC mining companies lobbying Ted Cruz and Co to siphon tax dollars and cheap land and energy to mining companies which strain energy grids at the cost of tax payers. You then have Trump launching scam coins to money laundering and scam which is against the emoluments clause. 3. It was clear. You’re stating a stupid Coinbase talking point. I never said bitcoin is a security as it doesn’t fit the howey test. The howey test is simple and most crypto falls under that. 4. Good luck with that? How stupid of a statement is that. Oh it’s corrupt and Thiel and pedo elite owns it so let’s do nothing. 5. Also a stupid statement. The existence of bitcoin ETFs are fine as they are regulated. The 401k and pensions being used as liquidity for it is not fine. Also the Pelosi is not the best trader and that’s just another internet bullshit talking point. You have 4 republicans worth more than her. 3 of them more than 2x her net worth. MTG when from 700k net worth to 25 million dollar net worth in her short time.

PreferenceOk2716

The speaker lineup says a lot about how much attention BTC Prague is getting this year. Having people like Michael Saylor, Jack Dorsey, Jack Mallers, Adam Back, Jeff Booth, and Natalie Brunell in one event shows how broad the Bitcoin conversation has become.

BuiltToSpinback

The 1000 BTC was valued at $66 million

True_Bodybuilder8095

Yeah, including stablecoins really distorts the picture BTC dominance looks way more stable when you strip that liquidity layer out.

Aeschbacher15

>Between March 4 and March 25, 2026, the company had sold a staggering 15,133 Bitcoin for an aggregate sale price of roughly $1.1 billion How are they only valued at $66 million if their BTC sales alone generated more than $1 billion? I'm confused

Realistic_Fee_00001

Sad history, Imagine what could have been if BTC stayed true to the mission. 😥

SatoshiNokomata

Had almost 30 BTC back in 2013…sold in a panic, so the knowledge of future would be more valuable than simply having possession…

siorge

most polymarket markets resolve on announcements (for example, in the case of Strategy BTC buys, many people lost money because the company bought BTC before, say, May 31, but announced it June 1, and the market resolved on the announcement of a buy, not the buy itself) it is a clusterfuck overall

TheManBL2020

It'll be back. 1 BTC = 1 BTC

Adonael

Nice chart, thanks for sharing. Yeah, people calling for altseason while BTC was dumping and at the same time while dominance was falling (because stablecoins market cap stayed the same) was weird to watch.

Ok_Percentage4090

Sounds like BTC Prague is basically side quests everywhere. You walk in thinking you’ll just check a few booths, then suddenly you’re debating uptime, power rates, custody, and mining infrastructure with 12 tabs open in your brain. Also “wear good shoes” might be the most honest Bitcoin conference alpha here lol.

Catbatt

Moral is, don't invest in shitcoins. I dabbled in altcoins in the beginning. I was about 70% into BTC and 30% into alts. I made some money on some, and lost some on others. Overall probably just more or less broke even. I was an idiot who hoped to make a lot of gains in little time and who thought that I missed the boat in Bitcoin. It was at about €3000 at that time. It would have been much better spent and peaceful had I just DCA's 100% in Bitcoin from the beginning. Luckily I was smart engouh to "only" allocate 30% into alts, but even that I regret. It should have been 0% into alts. I 've been into cryptocurrencies since 2017 and I remember how during that 2017 bull market so many projects were "Revolutionary! Will dethrone Bitcoin!" only to all sink into irrelevance, never to come back from the abyss. Same happened with different shitcoins in the 2021 bull market. The reply to pretty much all questions like "which coin should I invest in?" or "should I buy this coin?" or "When is a good time to buy this coin?" is just to not buy that coin unless it's Bitcoin and invest using a DCA strategy.

Truth_Wombat

Jake Pahor gives good commentary on crypto cycles. This post is worth a quick read (starts with why he skipped SpaceX IPO then gets onto the BTC price and his view on the low). https://open.substack.com/pub/cryptosuperhub/p/why-i-skipped-the-biggest-ipo-in?

gordonfr_

But people need to pay their bills with weak money and could buy productive assets like stock with it. Isn't the current and future USD price for BTC all that even matters? Maybe I did not get the more religious aspects of BTC yet.

TheresNoSecondBest

I don't do charting but if you need a top up on your Hopium, here are apparently charts showing [how BTC price could hit $100K before October](https://cointelegraph.com/markets/these-bitcoin-charts-show-how-btc-price-could-hit-100k-before-october).

airestotle092

10.7 million BTC at a loss. 2018 and 2022 bull markets started when atleast 10.5 million BTC were at a loss. It could consolidate for several more months but if your planning to hold when it hits $300k, $50k or $60k doesnt matter just buy now

fidisna

please ask this guy to pump BTC

svagis

Polymarket users have zero power because everything is decided by holders of third party UMA tokens Same exact kind of drama happened a couple of weeks ago with MicroStrategy BTC market

PuzzleheadedHuman

Nice project. The scoreboard is only as defensible as the price oracle behind it, so the resolution rules are where this lives or dies - and they are exactly what an influencer will attack when they dislike their score: \- Touch vs close: does "BTC hits $120k by Q3" count if it wicked $120k for one minute intraday, or does it need a daily close above? Those produce very different accuracy numbers. \- Which venue: a single exchange's print can diverge from the broader market on wicks and on low-liquidity alts. A cross-venue reference stops one venue's bad tick from flipping a call between hit and miss. \- Survivorship: calls on coins that later delisted or went to zero are the most important to score, and they are the first to vanish from most price APIs. If you publish the exact resolution rule next to each score, it gets much harder to dispute. Disclosure: I work on data at Coinpaprika, so per-exchange OHLCV history is my corner.

Joy_Boy_12

Joined on February 22, I remember that Bitcoin started to decrease and then on march to crash. I'll never forget when I saw BTC at 20-16k and I said I'll wait because it will fall to 10... My biggest takeaway is DCA no matter what 

Think_Willow8784

Consolidate all to BTC is the only way

TrixoftheTrade

1 BTC = 1 BTC Don’t chase the highs or run from the lows. Bitcoins value in a variable fiat is irrelevant in the long term.

momomojo54

Thanks for writing such a long and thoughtful reply. Cudos to you listening to all of that despite the garbage music. I have a question: when people say "rising prices" why is it measured in USD? Isn't BTC an alternative to the dollar?

Harfatum

ETH has currently about 121.8 supply and a sustainable 0.8% inflation rate which decreases over time. BTC's "supply cap" is either a fiction or the security budget will trend to zero, resulting in double-spends and other attacks becoming exponentially easier over time. There will be more than 21 million BTC and more than 122 million ETH; the only differences are that ETH isn't pretending that issuance isn't tied to security, and it also doesn't have to waste money paying miners to buy ASICS and electricity so it can afford a much lower security budget and therefore lower inflation in the long run.

AllMils

Condense to BTC, eth, sol. And some prayer beads

tap_the_glass

So Saylor? MSTR almost owns 1 in every 21 BTC that will ever exist

throwawayainteasy

I like how it tries to imply the (supposed) end of the Iran war and BTC being slightly down (or slightly up depending one time they hit post) are somehow inherently tied.

Leynnox

If clarity act passes, BTC will attract most of the liquidity, not sure it will impact alts a lot tbh, except killing all the shitcoins and memecoins

wolfofone

People should not be asking random folks what to do wifh their money. Get a fiduciary fee only financial planner / advisor and pay to not do their own research if thats what they want to do. People should never invest in something they do not understand and if they do anyway that is, in fact, their own problem. With that said random people should tell people that if they want to do anything Bitcoin is the only thing they should be looking into and that if they are going to buy BTC to do it on Strike, Gemini, etc and not some shady exchange no one has ever heard of lol. BitcoinBeginners sub is decent. But yes people do need to do their own research. They are the only ones ultimately that are going to have their best financial interests in mind.

numbersev

BTC dominance is 2% above it's annual low and alt coins are a bit higher than that low because ETH is less and more into other alts. For any true alt season you first have to wait for bitcoin to surge significantly. As money pours in it rotates from btc to eth to large/mid caps and then meme coins. The market is down quite a bit right now overall, meaning a good buy opportunity if you have conviction. Most alts are crap but some have utility. We're likely near the bottom. [https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/](https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/) What we're experiencing now (bit of a surge to $66k) could be a dead cat bounce where it's about to go into the $50ks. Of course could stay sideways or start to take off (Clarity Act).

zmagickz

No one can predict the future but 44k seems like a more than reasonable floor with a dampened ATH and cycle low The only way I see it going lower than this is if MSTR was forced to dump BTC or if AI has another strong 12-18 months. It is the shiny object right now

soccerchamp99

I consolidated to 100 pct BTC and have never felt better

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Successful_Big_3423

That's because you have approximately 126 days left until the BTC bottom.

Fun-Distribution3407

In all, BTC is the future of global financial transactions as the failure of the USD is certain considering its current trajectory.

Bluejumprabbit

Track which names lose less than the market on red BTC days, then see if they reclaim local highs first on the bounce.

Successful_Big_3423

When anybody has to ask, "Where can I buy..." something, the answer is ALWAYS, the Black Market. You gotta hit the streets man. Careful though. Those BTC ATMs are not cheap.

Successful_Big_3423

WHY? You are saying that a SHA-256 ASIC can only mine BTC? What am I missing here?

Successful_Big_3423

I want to say - WOW! but I have to ask myself, "How many people did he go through to get those 2 guys to say $10K USD over 100BTC?" All I'm saying it seems edited.

elio09071987

I bought 1.6 BTC in march 2020 at 5k but unfortunately sold it when reached 11k 😭

Theverybestestintown

Sell 80%. Rebuy when BTC hits 50-55K. When SOL is above 250, sell 80%, keep rest for a higher peak. You're welcome.

Independent_War_4194

2009 - 2025 = BTC is big , shiny object , grabs attention of everyone 2025 - future = BTC fades , quantum/space/A.I. are new shiny objects maybe it will come back but i have my doubts , it would need something like a 50% rise in 1 month or a similar mega thing to be shiny again

SensitiveAd6131

I don’t believe in quantum. Imo it’s 99% hype. Capabilities are there but the outputs of the quantum computers are imposible to read and understand yet. Maybe in 20 years plus? In any case i don’t think I would go all in in anything, we’re close to a big market corrections. I mostly only trade BTC and DCA small amounts on very few projects with low balling limit orders

quintavious_danilo

Where are you from? Bybit.eu offers 2% cashback in BTC to EU customers. It‘s free BTC with every purchase you make. Won’t do much but you need to pay for stuff anyways so it’s a good way to earn some extra BTC.

bbatardo

Strategy disclosed the sale June 1st and from then until June 10th BTC was down almost 14%. However.... Nasdaq was down over 7% and SP500 was down over 4% during that same time period. People like to pretend Strategy selling caused a large dip, but there were bigger macro events going on during that time period. The most volatile assets always have the biggest dips.

Nrs_Vecna

What you guys are not seeing is that the amount is not important. Satoshi wallets held 1.1 mil BTC for the past 17 years with zero movement. İf they were to start getting active again, this wouldnt probably mean satoshi or the methusalahs started selling. It possibly means that the quantum computing finally broke the wallets, and noone is safe, and the fundamental that BTC is built Upon is gone. This is why it will trigger a crash like never seen before. The amount of BTC getting sold is irrelevant. The fear that a government backed group finally got the wallets is enough to push BTC down around %95.

sobe86

> At those prices, an anonymous ghost or group of people instantly becomes one of the top 5 richest entities on planet Earth. We are talking about a net worth that rivals or exceeds Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and entire sovereign wealth funds. You get that someone has to buy the bitcoin off them right? Net worth in 1m bitcoin is completely theoretical, the same way Elon's trilly valuation is. If there isn't a trillion dollars on the other side willing to buy that from them (or if you prefer, willing to trade goods worth that amount), then it's not really worth that. What would happen if they tried to sell in reality is they'd very quickly run out of buyers, the price would tank, and things would normalise. Remember that the price of BTC you hold doesn't matter, all that matters is what you sell it for.

SimpleMoonFarmer

> loaded gun pointed at the global economy Only at BTC price.

mattriver

That possibility is already baked into the price. Believe me, if Satoshi (or anyone) came forward and publicly destroyed their keys — the BTC price would instantly skyrocket. So the argument works the other way as well.

GianBarGian

>Until those coins are cryptographically destroyed This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. BTC can't be "cryptographically" destroyed.

Marlon-Brandy

Haven't people done the same with BTC? Putting their money into a coin created by an unknown person that still holds a large chunk of it, an entity that could be for all we know, a terrorist organization and the purpose of this coin is... well, futile. The "tech" that has been surpassed by most other coins, and even then, most people don't need the tech.

ilovesaintpaul

Anyone who doesn't see how big a deal this is hasn't studied BTC. Really nice.

Reasonable_Ad5611

SATA is a variable rate, BMNP is is fixed. BTC is a non-productive asset, ETH is staked and can pay for dividends forever.

Vipu2

Ok I tried, sent it thru bridge while wrapped in InuDogeAI coin in exchange called youonlywin dot com and I havent seen my BTC, I need you support now!

_Stylite

Ok but the price of bitcoin is tied to MSTR, and that matters. If MSTR goes under and dumps their BTC it’s an existential threat for investment in bitcoin.

SorryAdvertising2566

Rip sub and rip BTC 😭

Shazvox

BTC doesn't 'fail' because it decreases in value.

LiveMinute5598

Try to move 100 million in gold bars easily/securely and now try the same with BTC.

mulletstation

If you're holding BTC, which is fine, as it's basically just at tech stock, you should be comfortable with Saylor and his thesis.

1HashPerSecond

So we know how much the liquidity is high; how fast it's moving. I'm not afraid for BTC

Piccolo-Complete

Years ago (like 5-6 years), there was a growing wave of excitement around bitcoin, ETH, and even some altcoin ETFs or similar vehicles. There was talk of national banks and reserves adopting stablecoins and making them an important backbone of global commerce. Lots of people here believed this was the proverbial foot in the door that would allow crypto to seize and overthrow our current economic systems, bringing equality and wealth, unseat the Global Elites, and blah blah blah. I warned then that everyone had it backwards -- acceptance by Wall Street would mean the end of the crypto world as we had come to know it. BTC would become simply another asset to be manipulated, used as a hedge/relief valve, arbitraged at scale by those with the power to do so, and on and on. The mystique would evaporate, and crypto as a whole would begin to function more like a high beta tech stock for a company that technically can't go out of business, but also will never be on par with the Mag 7. Or even if it did, then it would just be a low beta, high cap tech stock. Successful, but not paradigm shifting. So far, my analysis rings pretty true, but I suppose it's early yet. Any disagreers in chat?

Alternative_Week3023

BTC ATMs have horrendous spread. If you are looking for a Switzerland based exchange, maybe take a look at Swiss Borg: [https://swissborg.com](https://swissborg.com)

Vast_University_7534

Yes, congrats on learning that BTC isn't a business that is for profit. You're comparing two different things, stocks and crypto. BTC is a commodity

Oaker_at

Reading the sentence “it hit me, you’re not buying software, you’re buying exposure to BTC” in 2026 is truly baffling

Upbeat_Acanthaceae41

All of you are missing the point. Of course everyone should do their own research - no one is saying otherwise. What would be helpful is pointing that person in the right direction by giving them what many already in crypto consider basic information. Tell them that there is a difference between BTC and altcoins and also utility and meme coins. That they need to decide what they are looking to do in crypto so that they know what to research (gambling for possible instant riches/investing in projects with potential/storing value as a hedge against inflation). Give them something they can work with without being a jerk. Share your experience without being preachy. Why are any of you even wasting your time typing out a response that is useless by itself. If you don’t want to help then just shut up and move on.

Purple-Wall3847

Isn't this the same guy that a few week ago that was selling? I think it was to generate cashflow for dividends, but it was spun as a scarry signal and "is he giving up on BTC" narrative.

SadExtreme8597

the mining one is wild because it's not even subtle. nobody profitably mined BTC with GPUs after like 2013. these posts get traction because they're optimized for the exact emotional buttons that get upvotes lol

swaaoa

For what it's worth, I work at Clapp and we built ours exactly around that idea: 0% on unused credit, no fixed repayment schedule, multi-collateral (BTC ETH others) so you can spread liquidation risk, and real-time LTV tracking in the app. Not pitching it as the answer, just saying the revolving model exists and tends to suit HODLers better than term loans.

Master-Condition-249

If more companies start holding BTC like this, it stops being “alternative” pretty quickly