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defeater33

No leverage. Just stay with ETH and BTC 90% or greater of crypto investments. Use monthly candle chart to buy at lows and sell on the highs for longterm. Don't get greedy. Big swings mean a lot money(50%-100%) while being safe.

SpontaneousDream

LOL I can't belive people still believe this utter bullshit. None of what you said matters when virtually zero value accrues to the ETH token. There are no spot buybacks of ETH using protocl revenue (which is peanuts anyways). Burns are easily offset by new issuance. ETH/BTC has been down for almost a decade...

LuckyWinds

> anywhere from 10x to 1000X cheaper than to run a traditional Supercomputer AI question/computation So how much to crack a single bitcoin public key? > This isnt just a "random" single person tho, he is considered by many a "leader" in the space. No he isn't. I barely know who he is and I've been following this space closely for over a decade. > Its the strongest option though. Again Other options dont address the weakness in BTC security model. I don't know why you think it's the strongest option. I also don't know what you mean by "Other options dont address the weakness in BTC security model." > The people deciding arent the holders. to make an analogy, The people deciding on what upgrades get implemented into lets say Ebay, arent the users, they're the shareholders of Ebay stock. The needs and interests of the Ebay users are vastly different than Ebay stock holders. That's whats happening and been happening here with BTC and its code. It was supposed to be 1 CPU = 1 Vote. those days are long gone now. How is it long gone? I don't understand what you are claiming at all. I think it would be better if you were specific and not using some analogy that doesn't make sense in this context. > It will indeed go from 1 day we couldnt crack it, to one day we can crack it. That's not what I said. I specifically asked "So you think quantum will go from impossible to crack a single public key to being able to crack one in 9 minutes instantly? Like one day researchers will say "Yesterday we couldn't crack a public key, but today we can in 9 minutes" You think the technology will develop in this type of time frame?"

Crystal_Smitha

i’m still cautious tho. i keep most of my BTC in gem wallet and only test these BTCFi ideas with small amounts. if something breaks i don’t want it touching my core stack

RealCryptoCrank

Remember. We do not have quarterly reports for crypto like stocks. So when you “invest” the determining factor for the product is …does it still have devs working? Gaining partnerships? Being used in real world use cases? These are a must for me to even think about investing. My portfolio for institutional bullrun/institutional bear market is BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, TRX, HYPE.

PaulitaN_Price

yeah this feels different from the old “wrap your BTC and pray” model. if the coins actually stay on Bitcoin and you’re just using them as locked security, that’s a big improvement

Revolutionary-Cup78

Yea, the best path forward for BTC would be to "burn" all assets that don't migrate to a quantum secure wallet. Some people will loose legitimate assets, but it is a needed sacrifice to prevent a flood of supply recovered from lost wallets

RetiredAvocado

Even if BTC market cap got big enough (big if), someone would have to want to buy that bitcoin and pay for it. Who has $39 trillion dollars and wants to buy bitcoin with it from USG? Perhaps the gov could sell some of it overtime but not in amounts anywhere near national debt levels.

Top-Care-8946

Volatility is like high-speed roller coaster. BTC can dive deep as -10-20% but can "skyrocket" upwards the same or more. Currently my balance was floating between 15% and I am still on the small profit (because assets in value is less than €80- I just started to collect as beginner).

HomelessInASuit

I know all of that. I’ve watched Justin hose billions off idiots. Your ill gotten gains mean nothing to me. I’ve been in BTC for a long time. I’ve seen people do horrific things in this space, including the President. Justin Sun belongs in a prison with CZ and all of them. If you think this space is about money you’ve lost the plot long ago. Tron will not be the one and neither will BCash, Binance, MemeCoin, WLF, or the other basket of scams that have infested this space. Tron is just another Egg in the rotten basket. Soon it will rot away too. Enjoy the %20 offerings let me know how that went for BITCONNECT. 😭😭😭😭

MCL-Jonathan

Focus on making more money definitely a good start, but ensuring you picked the right horse also very important! So just stick with Bitcoin $BTC

Subtraktions

I'm not even sure how you would self custody a traditional ETF, but even with a Bitcoin one, you've constantly got the issue of buying and transferring your BTC every week or month, plus the possibility that you lose the keys, get hacked or die in that decade or more before your kid gets to the age you want to give it to them. An ETF with a reputable third party is just far easier to keep topping up, and far easier to pass on if something does happen.

RealP2PMarket

You’re right about volatility — no business wants to hold a currency that can swing like that. But that’s not how it’s actually used in practice. Companies don’t have to hold crypto to use it. Same way they don’t hold foreign currencies — they accept it and convert instantly. Payment rails ≠ holding the asset. That’s why stablecoins exist, and why most real-world usage today isn’t about holding BTC on the balance sheet, but using crypto as a transfer layer. Volatility is a problem for storing value, not for moving it.

MoverWhoStacksSats

I always find it funny that when I purchase something with BTC and then time, like years maybe 4-5 years goes by and I look up old purchases and see how much the seller could have now if they just held versus what I paid back then. Always funny how I over paid years later. Makes me want to kick myself.

CrookedCasts

Did you lodge a complaint with the BTC CEO?

InvestaHepps

Yeah if you can comfortably stick to it, that’s already the biggest part done. BTC as a starting point is probably the simplest way to get exposure without overcomplicating things for yourself early on. Most people get in trouble trying to jump between things before they even understand how they react to the market. Monthly adding is fine, the main thing is just staying consistent with it and not changing the plan every time price moves. You’ll learn way more just by being in the market over time than trying to optimise everything upfront.

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Replica72

Buy him a cold storage wallet and when he sets it up send him $20 in BTC

RealP2PMarket

No — just different roles. BTC = store of value Others = transactions Same space, different use cases.

Inevitable_Army7688

So what your saying is BTC cant be a currency 😂 but others can , ok bro.

FX-MDA

Only use ELECTRUM for your BTC never leave them on any connected wallet such as those reffered to you like trust wallet, blue wallet, etc ..

R4ID

>How much does it cost to crack a bitcoin public key? anywhere from 10x to 1000X cheaper than to run a traditional Supercomputer AI question/computation https://arxiv.org/pdf/2209.05469 The cost is in the build, not in the energy required to run it. This is why its such a big issue. The first person to figure it out and build it, will profit the most (and it will be a lot of profit) if it is used in this manner. >I don't care what a single person does. >There are crazy people in every industry. This isnt just a "random" single person tho, he is considered by many a "leader" in the space. Im not saying you worship him or anything but there is a very significant portion of the BTC community that does value his words, speach, manner he in which he holds himself. He is the prototypical maxi. >That's not the only option going forward, and for the record I'm against freezing wallets. Its the strongest option though. Again Other options dont address the weakness in BTC security model. >Why would bitcoin need on chain governance to solve this problem? The people deciding arent the holders. to make an analogy, The people deciding on what upgrades get implemented into lets say Ebay, arent the users, they're the shareholders of Ebay stock. The needs and interests of the Ebay users are vastly different than Ebay stock holders. That's whats happening and been happening here with BTC and its code. It was supposed to be 1 CPU = 1 Vote. those days are long gone now. >You didn't answer my question. So I'll ask again. >So you think quantum will go from impossible to crack a single public key to being able to crack one in 9 minutes instantly? Like one day researchers will say "Yesterday we couldn't crack a public key, but today we can in 9 minutes" You think the technology will develop in this type of time frame? It will indeed go from 1 day we couldnt crack it, to one day we can crack it. The duration is going to change as technology improves (just like everything) The 9 minute duration is just the current best estimates for how fast it could crack ECDSA. Quantum will take different durations to crack different encryption methods as some are more susceptible to the method Quantum is utilizing. https://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-whitepaper.pdf Google published it thinks theres a 10% in the first year of gen 1 Quantum Computer that it will crack ECDSA. but it also states that future generations will drastically reduce resources required by almost 20,000X cheaper and total duration could get as low as 9 to 12 minutes. So depending on how fast it progresses (think AI) each gen obviously will be faster, more efficient and stronger at cracking encryption.

RealP2PMarket

That’s exactly the point. It’s not that crypto can’t be used — it’s that there are almost no real places to use it easily. Buying a steak with BTC isn’t hard because of the tech, it’s hard because the infrastructure isn’t there. Adoption doesn’t come from the ability to pay — it comes from having places that actually accept it.

Rikudo974

Whether it’s a BTC ETF or a traditional ETF, the underlying problem remains the same: the risk associated with third parties. We’re talking about a 10- to 20-year time horizon for children. Relying on an interface and an intermediary for two decades runs counter to the very concept of sovereignty that Bitcoin offers. If you want them to truly own the asset, you give them the keys. Simple.

Subtraktions

You might be, but the people telling OP to put it in an ETF, are not talking about a BTC ETF.

SeriousGains

Ben McKenzie made a movie about how Bitcoin is a scam. Terrance Howard says Bitcoin is going to die. No one cares. I’ve been invested in both TRX and BTC for almost 10 years and will continue investing in both. You can keep calling it a scam all you like.

joyOFFmissingOut

Le crypto fanno pump&dump cicliclo, a parte BTC, non ha senso comprare per holdare anni. Le crypto si comprano in bear e si vendono in Bull market e così via e così via. Compra ETF msci world, S&P 500, indice cinese

Previous_Blueberry_5

Bitbox02nova.. throw the BTC in there, set it and forget it.

alterise

You know they’re currently discussing whether to deprive satoshi of his BTC, right? You can’t be serious.

wgcole01

Back in 2019 or so, I bought some BTC for my 2 kids (now adults). I'm keeping it in a wallet (per se) and I'm just holding it in trust for them until 1 of 2 things happen: either BTC goes crazy high (like $1M) or I die. All they know now is where it's at and how to get to the seed phrase if they need it.

Thankyouclouds

I completely understand the merits of cold storage as well, however I couldn't help but think of the disaster scenario of something happening to me and partner and that BTC is gone forever since I'm not comfortable sharing seed phrases to living people outside my immediate family. So I decided on buying IBIT shares, that way I can at least name beneficiaries.

HSuke

The ones who moved to the stock market are still up 45% over BTC in the past year. I think they're doing fine unless they went to cash equivalents.

ShockCatOnSol

Appreciated, the major signals are the core anyway. BTC and SOL setups are where the real conviction lives. Good luck out there.

Nemozoli

I don't really see the purchase of a solo mining rig profitable enough to be worth it, even if you have very cheap electricity and mine in a pool. Much easier to buy BTC directly from that money.

Nemozoli

Lump sum beats DCA if done in large enough amounts, but that is called "timing the market" for some reson around here. I don't know about everyone, but when it plummeted to $16K, I wasn't asking anyone "Will it go lower?" but bought as much as I could. Now that amount in sats is worth almost 5 times as much in $. It doesn't take much financial acuity to see that if an asset becomes a lot cheaper and you believe in it to perform later to buy more of it. If you don't really believe in it, then why buy at ATH? Burning money? I first bought in summer 2017, not having much conviction about BTC, so decided to cash out my initial investment on the run-up to $19k, playing with house money after that. From then on slowly educated myself and got the conviction, so much so that in 2020 I liquidated my meager pension fund and bought BTC from it. Best idea ever!

XRPL_Trader_Guy

Sorry this happened to you. Here's what you can actually do: 1. Trace the funds — paste the destination wallet address into a block explorer (blockchain.com for BTC). See where the funds moved next. 2. If it hit a CEX (Coinbase, Binance, Kraken etc.) — report the receiving address to that exchange's fraud team directly. They can freeze funds and have KYC info tied to the account. This is your best shot. 3. File with IC3.gov — the FBI's internet crime division. They aggregate crypto theft cases and do actually act on them, especially if the same wallet is linked to multiple victims. 4. Still go to local police — even if they do nothing, you need an official case number for tax write-off purposes (capital loss) and any potential insurance claim. Trust Wallet themselves can't help — they're non-custodial and have no visibility into your wallet or the attacker. The trail is on the blockchain permanently. If the thief ever moves those funds to a KYC'd exchange, there's a record. Good luck.

Realistic_Support185

What individual stocks do you have paired with your BTC & ETF’s?

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yefuck

How do you go from BTC ETH and SOL to crap like PENGU and BOME. Not complaining just a strange 5 coins to discuss

MinimalGravitas

> Thats why you go bitcoin only. Nobody will freeze it. Except that the developers are proposing to freeze 34% of all BTC to protect it from quantum attacks... https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/bitcoin-developers-propose-quantum-plan https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0361.mediawiki

AttemptKitchen

You know there are other things like macroeconomic factors apart that influences BTC price right? and with the ETFs much more. 2022 Bear Market : SP500 dumped 30-40%, FED doing rate hikes left and right and we had a very strong dollar. 2026 Bear Market : SP500 barely dipped before going to new highs, FED unlikely to do any rate hikes this year... and last a very weak dollar.

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Rock_Strongo

Do you want a free market or not? I've been around crypto long enough to remember when Coinbase was taking all sorts of heat because they only listed BTC, ETH, and LTC while other exchanges were offering 100 different coins already. Ultimately these are exchanges, as long as users are properly warned of the risks I don't think it is their moral duty to determine which of these coins are "legit" - considering roughly 90% of all coins are going to 0 in the long run.

AnfowleaAnima

At this point isn't that thrill part of why you invest in BTC?

yefuck

I’m nearing 50% crypto exposure. It’s not all BTC though it’s a combination of crypto related stocks, BTC, a few alts (small allocation), STRK, etc. It’ll likely be 80-90% if and when we leg up.

metla85

People sleep on value averaging because DCA is easier to 'set and forget,' but as you showed, VA is mathematically superior for volatile assets like BTC. I’ve been following a similar path, but I found that as the portfolio grows, calculating the exact 'Value Path' and the required buys during drawdowns becomes a bit of a chore (and prone to human error). I actually built [**valueaveraging.app**](http://valueaveraging.app) specifically to solve this. It automates the math so you know exactly what your next move should be based on your target value, rather than just eyeballing percentages. It’s been a lifesaver for staying disciplined.

Most-Gur-8411

Begun the BTC war has 

__redruM

There are investments that will almost always recover from their bottom. Stock market index funds certainly. If QQQ or VOO dips, it’s safe to buy. BTC and ETH may also have that luxury, though 2022 took a while to recover. But there’s no reason to expect a random crypto project to recover from a dip.

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LiveSchiop

The premium on Binance P2P in India is brutal, like 3-5% sometimes which eats into your SIP gains pretty fast. I was in a similar spot and started checking other P2P platforms... ended up using BitValve for some of my buys and the spreads were noticeably tighter, though it depends on the day and available sellers tbh. As for SOL specifically... doing a SIP is fine in theory but you're putting all eggs in one basket. maybe split between SOL and ETH or BTC? just a thought. Tax wise you're looking at 30% flat on gains + 1% TDS on every transaction above 10k. Keep records of EVERY buy, the date, amount in INR, quantity. You'll need it at tax time. A lot of people ignore this and then panic during ITR filing lol Not financial advice obviously but the SIP approach itself is solid, dollar cost averaging works. The premium is your real enemy here.

Quokky-Axolotl7388

But we are so back man! There is nothing that could possibly go wrong now with my BTC long position backed with the money I loaned with my kidney as collateral

manharkatty

his tone could move BTC more than the decision

SnooMachines7409

I can take the other side of that bet. Did you say BTC will be 10£ by 2036 ? And u want to make a 1000£ bet?. This is how we'll do. We'll set up a Lightning channel between us both and each will deposit 1000 £ worth of sats today. Weekly, we'll look at the price and calculate the price differentia and move seats back and forth based on who's up. Are u up for it?

seagraham3265

To some extent, it is rather easy. All you need to do is keep track of what your average buy would have been had you bought at some frequency, and make sure you bulk buy at any point below that average value. Now, timing a bottom in near impossible. But buying when BTC has a low risk score? Much easier

WeakEstablishment686

I’m around 10% BTC/ETC at a 80/20 split. 80% index funds/ETFs/a few stock picks mostly mag 7 tilt. 10% treasuries

absurdamerica

Just glossing over the fact that almost all ETF’s are multiple diversified assets and BTC isn’t? Okay.

absurdamerica

An ETF isn’t paper BTC. Absolutely the dumbest thing I’ll read this week and it’s Wednesday.

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Revolutionary-Cup78

At most you should allocate a portion of the savings. Don't put everything into one basket, as not even BTC has a certain future that long term (not saying it's going to 0, it may simply not go particularly high compared to different assets).

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AttemptKitchen

From what I see BTC its building the perfect scenario to get back to 100k. If the Iran conflict gets resolved (and with the infinite ceasefires of Trump something tells me that the war will not last much longer) and the Genius Act get approved, it's the perfect excuse to sent it back to 100k.

slop_drobbler

Just looking at past cycles and the historical percentage draw-downs from bull cycle top to the next bear market bottom. With that in mind ~£30k (~$40k) seems likely by Sept/Oct. We are also seeing diminishing returns each bull market in terms of percentage increase from bottom to top. 2021 cycle BTC went from ~£3k to ~£60k. This time it was ~£15k to ~£90k. With that in mind £120k seems likely to me in 2029. Many here think ‘this time is different’ for various reasons, but if you compare to previous cycles BTC is playing out the same as always (alts are a different story though). I don’t have a crystal ball. Nobody really knows what’s going to happen - this is just my guess! I also think it seems likely Bitcoin will not be worth bothering with after 2029 as the risk/reward ratio will be lesser than just sticking with regular stocks due to the aforementioned diminishing returns. We’ll see what happens…

Spare-Dingo-531

I forgot to make a ethereum bottom prediction. https://www.tradingview.com/x/rU6ixp7J/ Ethereum has been in a parabolic downtrend against bitcoin since the merge. I think Bitcoin is subject to diminishing returns and crypto is inherently valuable, so I think Ethereum (which has the most adoption, most developer brainpower, and most advanced (by far) support ecosystem) will go up relative to bitcoin. That happens in 2027. The clarity act + dropping interest rates will also help out defi post-2027, which should support the ETH/BTC ratio. That being said, I think bitcoin crashes to 35K. And the ratio line is 0.0185. 35000*0.0185 is 650. So I think we see sub-700 Ethereum prices before the bear market ends.

Dettol-tasting-menu

BTC, Yes “Other cryptos”, No If you’re new, this is going to be the best tip for you. It will save you years of anger, frustration and confusion. It’s a shortcut to the goal that you will eventually get to after many dead ends and false hopes and money lost: Just stick to Bitcoin, and ditch any “crypto”.

Rikudo974

Who said it was 100% of their portfolio? Index funds are obviously the standard strategy. But treating BTC as a pure casino gamble over a 20-year horizon is completely outdated. With currency devaluation, not holding any BTC over two decades is the real risk.

SeriousGains

TRON is actively working on it and will adopt well before ETH and BTC.

EdgeQuiet2199

Mid 50s BTC / $1.4k ETH isn’t a wild call, but feels a bit “old cycle logic.” With ETFs and bigger players now, dips don’t always get that deep. Also geopolitics isn’t one-directional — sometimes it actually supports BTC. Shorts can work, just feels risky waiting for a perfect bottom that may not come this time.

Equivalent_Dog6713

fato! eu quero que fique "baixo" para comprar mais, já falei isso mais vezes aqui no sub mas parece que a maioria não concorda... ainda assim também temos outro lado: se o preço cair fico feliz pois consigo comprar mais BTC por menos valor. se o preço subir, fico mais "rico" pois meu patrimônio que já está em BTC aumentou.

InspectionCandid6409

Naw, just don’t miss the second best time. Figure out how much you can DCA a week and put that in every week. I recommend buying equities and BTC every week at a rate that you can hold longterm without selling.

xarips

Have fun rolling over the debt when BTC drops

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

FitCompetition1804

Keep my daily DCA going like I have since early February? I’m also ready with “dry powder” for larger limit orders if/when it does dump. This is my strategy to hedge my bet in case we don’t reach lows expected. I’m long on BTC, not some moon boy trying to take a quick profit or hope that I recoup “losses” because I bought at the top due to FOMO.

DuckHub42

Just get Strike its a BTC only exchange and 0 fees after a week of dca, my brothers and sister i buy every god damn day, so if u wont i will buy yours, kiss

Realistic_Support185

I am currently reading “The Bitcoin Standard” and “The Fiat Standard”. Very good books on our monetary system today. I have read about how banks are looking into using blockchains and stable coins. I can’t help but believe that BTC and other cryptos will be the new monetary system after the USD gets slaughtered to inflation similar to how the German Marks got slaughtered after WW1

Infinite_Switch1412

Man if I lost that much BTC I seriously don't know how I could live with myself lol.

Get_the_nak

A fight for the cheap BTC is ongoing

Laakhesis

100% minus your age, that’s your Bitcoin allocation based on your net worth. Only if you are a BTC Maxi

zakoal

The short version: whales bought 270k BTC last month. Ceasefire dies today. One of those signals is about to be proven wrong by end of week.

Realistic_Support185

I meant the portfolio %. Right now I have about 5.5% in BTC but plan on increasing that quite a bit

Realistic_Support185

I meant the portfolio %. Right now I have about 5.5% in BTC but plan on increasing that quite a bit

Realistic_Support185

That’s where I am right now. Just above 5.5% in BTC but no other crypto. I plan on increasing my BTC size

Liskpro_com

Great idea, bro! Long-term BTC/ETH exposure has historically outperformed most savings accounts, but the setup matters a lot. **Two main approaches people use:** Custodial account (e.g., Coinbase, Kraken): easiest to set up, but you're trusting a third party. Exchanges can freeze accounts, get hacked, change terms \[you name it\]. Fine for small amounts, but "not your keys, not your coins" really applies here. Not my preferred solution, especially for long term storage. Cold wallet (self-custody): more work upfront, but you fully control the funds. This is what most serious long-term holders recommend. I'm in this team for sure. For cold storage, a hardware wallet like a Satochip, Trezor or even Jade is worth considering. Do prefer HW that are open-source of course... By the way, the smartcard format is actually nice for this use case: easy to store in a safe or safety deposit box and forget about for years. On the volatility concern: totally valid. Dollar-cost averaging monthly (which you're already planning) helps a lot. Some people keep a small cash buffer alongside so kids aren't forced to sell at a bad time.

Temporary-Sweet-8573

Not too late, but definitely not risk-free. BTC is volatile, so only invest what you’re okay holding long-term. Your idea of putting in a chunk now and then DCA is actually a solid, low-stress strategy. Just make sure you’re diversified too; don’t go all-in on one asset, even if you believe in it long term.

thebaldmaniac

ETFs for S&P 500, NASDAQ, global markets or something I meant. BTC can be bought as a small percentage of overall amount.

salamdi

Welcome! Short answer: nobody can reliably tell you the *perfect* time to buy BTC. If you’re new, trying to “time the market” is usually where people lose money. A more realistic approach is: * Learn the basics first * Start small (good that you’re thinking this way) * Consider averaging in over time instead of going all-in at once BTC moves in cycles, and what feels like a “good time” is often only obvious *after* the fact. Before buying, I’d strongly recommend getting some structured learning so you actually understand what you’re doing. This site is a solid starting point: [https://simbtc.trade/](https://simbtc.trade/) It’ll help you understand market behavior, risk management, and strategy - which matter way more than guessing entry points. If you still want a simple beginner mindset: don’t chase pumps, don’t panic on drops, and never invest money you can’t afford to lose.

Lonely_Bumblebee8934

If you convert BTC to GBP you would trigger a CGT event.

Agile_Opportunity_41

BTC buyers will pay cash from other assets or get a loan against BTC if needed if they have enough instead of giving BTC. But either way if you aren’t planning on keeping the BTC let them figure that out. I don’t see how it really widens your pool of buyers by much at all.

Helliumr

OP, BTC will go down, look at the stats

f2pool-CSR2

BTC can also be accumulated by mining, not just buying.

PhysInstrumentalist

Because there will likely be a fintech advancement that leverages blockchain tech that feels like you’re paying with actual cash. I hate paying for things with Bitcoin, as a consumer I would still rather use cash to buy things, despite how much BTC is better in principle. The usability is simply not there, but people still need it to buy drugs so its not going anywhere.

slop_drobbler

I’m thinking circa £30k bottom for BTC before the year ends, probably around October. Around £120k top in 2029, so the opportunity to make a 4x if you time the market perfectly. People thinking we’ve already hit the bottom, or that we’re moments away from another rally are delusional imo. Trump will find another crisis to manipulate the markets with after he gets bored with Iran. Don’t give a fuck about ETH, it’s not worth bothering with any more imo

Successful_Ad_380

Why mock people? They're coming from a place of ignorance, everyone has to learn about BTC

ShockCatOnSol

Yes,absorption not distribution is the BTC read. BOME volume signature was textbook. SOL entry zone still valid, macro is the only real wildcard. The Grid is watching $80.5K BTC as the confirmation level that changes everything.

riscten

Thanks, just dug a little about this pattern, and you seem to be right, historical 82% success rate with BTC when backtesting. It's interesting. Are we seeing the inverse yet?

Timtim99x

agreed, the market is totally different than in 2022. With this pullback it does not feel this way, it feels just like 2022, but it is not. In 2022 we had a lot of forced selling, this time around STRC is a BTC accumulation machine, sucking the air out of the bears!

evandollardon

$98 on a $1k position in a month feels good, but it's noise in the context of where BTC has historically gone over a full cycle. Selling here means timing every re-entry correctly from now on, which is the hardest thing to do consistently. The holders who compound cycles don't sell the first green month. They park their position somewhere it's working like earning yield at a platform like nexo

mralzh

Every time bitcoin drops, all the "bears" come here to say: I told you! it’s going down!! xd and every time it goes up, all the "bulls" come here to say: I told you!!, nobody has a crystal ball lmao, you dont know if tomorrow its going to start dropping to 50k or rising to 150k. Do you believe in BTC? Okay, bet on it, but dont come to Reddit every time it moves a little with these kinds of posts lol.

VastJuice2949

Btc. Just buy BTC. Maybe ETH.

Bruglione

There are some ideas floating around already that a new BIP proposal for migrating BTC wallets could include a temporary change to blocks so that a fixed % of the blocksize can only be used for migration/upgrade transactions. This will put some strain on transaction costs, but it'll be manageable. That way we could ensure that everyone gets to migrate/upgrade within a certain timeframe, while also keeping space for regular transactions. It'll be up to the user if they want to pay a higher fee and be first in line to upgrade, or pay a lower fee and wait a couple months or even years.

mneymaker

Veeeery interesting and fresh framework. Imagine BTC becomes part of the defense budget spend through each country's Strategic Reserve. Sound reaaaaaally strategic, in that sense.