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uduni

How does capital benefit just by waiting in a bitcoin-as-reserve world? If BTC truly became the world reserve asset its market cap would be > 100 trillion (like US bonds today). Capitalists would still be capitalists and would put money in the stock market to make returns. Why would it be different from today? The market cap in dollars of a non-inflating reserve asset in an efficient and logic market would track the real expansion of the economy. Anyone using BTC as a unit of account would see goods and services slowly decrease in price every year. Bitcoin is not here to replace USD, its here to replace bonds and gold as a store of value.

Jaimitowarrior100

No body knows... Lots of BTC shilling here though. I would rather have my money in a coin that can 10x to go to previous ATH than on BTC that can make me a 2x in 10 years. But that is because I invest pocket money and can afford to lose it all.

UnheardTales

Totally depends on risk tolerance, but I keep \~30% in stables for dry powder. Allocate 10-20% to high-yield DeFi like Aave lending. 5-10% in LPs for extra APY, but hedge IL. Rest in BTC/ETH for growth. For stable yields, Yieldseeker on BASE automates USDC optimization as one tool.

117Reclaimer

I've only invested in BTC, ETH and SOL Cope more, it's not my fault American Idiots voted in a Pedophile Conman who tanked their economy

JDub_55

I started on Coinbase tbh and now I mine cryptos and BTC

watch-nerd

I took profits Nov 24 to Jan 25. Reduced positions by 50%. Still in the green; average BTC price is 45k.

copyofa_

I like Jack, his podcast, and his Strike app/company, but the fees are way too high. Kraken is fucking 0.25% maker fee. You can execute a buy and sell order for half-a-fuckin’ percent People are always charged way too much when they take the easy smash-buy button, whether it’s Coinbase, CashApp, whatever. It’s the newbie fee. But, if it actually gets people to yeet dollars at BTC, a few extra % in the long run doesn’t matter. My best buys were smash-buying, with those high fees. I don’t regret it. I regret advising people to use Coinbase Pro or Kraken Pro. There’s too much friction for a normie/older person. For them, eating the high fees is better than not buying at all.

billbrock1958

Of course (answering my own question) the future 1 BTC worth $850K would be handy for paying off the mortgage on your house bought for $1.1 million in 2025. But the future price of that home would be $11 million….

Maybe_Factor

>**1.7 million BTC** are already in addresses where public keys are exposed How do you even send BTC to an address without the public key?

davescilken

Exactly why I sold all BTC and Crypto earlier this year. I really wanted the mission for secure decentralized fiat alternative to succeed, and realized that mission has long since been abandoned.

billbrock1958

Assume arguendo that the answer is yes, BTC is better than gold. It’s still only a store of value. (One that I am happy to accept as payment.)

DexterTwerp

So inflation goes WAY down, and BTC goes down with it?

CompetitiveInsect905

Gold, gold, gold, plata, plata, BTC.

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Remarkable_Ad5011

Gimme the blue pill… I’ll have my wife tested for breast cancer so we can catch it about two years earlier. Oh, and I’ll have a few thousand bucks saved up for when BTC becomes a reality.

sjr00

BTC market cap is way bigger now and is far most liquid. 90% drops in the era of ETFs, I don't see it. Only a black swan can get BTC all the way down there, IMO.

TheRandomArtist

I thought it was pretty clear banks are trying to force Saylor into selling by shorting MSTR and BTC at the same time...? No one gives two shits whether you hold or sell. They need MSTR to be forced into a financial death spiral, so his holdings are released to all the institutions.

Strict_Alps_1304

like -50% more, prepare yourself for christmas table convo with your uncle, after that BTC will make new ATH

Educational_Hunt_279

just download coinbase or strike, make an account, deposit dollars, buy BTC. don’t even worry about a ledger at first. SATs are like Bitcoin cents. Like a dollar has pennies.

cryptnoob101

I’m certainly buying more BTC than ever before and still no close to a whole coin. That said, hypothetically, even if I had cash to drop for say 5 BTC Buy at 90k ea, where do I expect it to be in 10yrs? 300k ea? 500k ea? Let’s say 500k, that would be worth 2.5M. That’s not life changing. TLDR, the hyper growth phase is gone. So please explain why this would be preferred over stocks? I’m probably going to get downvoted like crazy for this, but I really want to understand the thought process. For people saying inflationary and deflationary, those are good in theory, but that cash world is the world we live in. Other than generational wealth and passing down my hypothetical coins to my offsprings, I don’t see a great benefit in my life time. So help me understand.

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tldr; Bitcoin (BTC) fell below the $85,000 support level, hitting $84,500, its lowest in three weeks, amid a week-long selloff. This decline affected the broader crypto market, with Ether (ETH) and Solana (SOL) also dropping. Analysts suggest thin liquidity and options flows are driving the moves, while Bloomberg's Mike McGlone warns Bitcoin could fall to $10,000 due to diminishing catalysts and increased competition from other cryptocurrencies. The market remains under pressure, with downside risks prevailing. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

SpaghettiTape

What do you mean? You send BTC to a new address, it shows up here. Selling BTC and not changing addresses (like if someone handed you a trezor for your cash) would be really foolish from a security standpoint. What non traceable transfer measures exist?

wkndatbernardus

Gold still inflates every year whereas there will only ever be 21 million BTC.

44193_Red

Vitalik says this to move developers that are going extremely slow (and lots of internal bickering). In the end, this is a sensationalist article. In the event BTC can be cracked, so will every secure means of in computing, banking, and heck, we might as well pack it up and quit life

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Dismal-Birthday6081

The trick is to get BTC at a good price. Like many others, I have yet to master this one trick

InternationalType218

I appreciate your opinion and I agree to an extent. I’ve held MSTR and FBTC in my IRA for a while since I can’t hold actual BTC there. MSTR and XXI have possibilities that real BTC doesn’t. Yes it’s a lottery ticket hoping that they succeed in creating something from their massive pile of BTC. I would still like to know how one website calculates mNAV for these two companies so differently. The MSTR number appears to be right while the XXI number looks like they used garbage numbers to calculate it. [the miscalculation](https://bitcointreasuries.net/public-companies/xxi)

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Look at the BTC.D chart. It might drop like in 2017 and 2021. The 4-year cycle might be dead, but Bitcoin's declining dominance can be seen in the charts. [https://www.tradingview.com/x/kSLOYUJq/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/kSLOYUJq/)

silentapexresearch

Mostly watching ETF flows today. Spot BTC ETFs pulled in ~450M+ in fresh inflows, which feels like real rotation rather than retail volatility. Anyone else tracking how Fidelity + IBIT are eating market share this week?

Objective-Choice6518

It'll be the the time BTC will dip, If the cycle theory still stands. Most people hate this theory tho and I don't judge them, but this made me some good money this last 7 years

No-Head1851

The only timeless bubble is fiat money and rescuing a bankrupt financial system. It won't matter what price BTC is at, I will keep on buying every time I can. 

Assist_Lumpy

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These-Brick-7792

This is why non btc people think btc is a joke. BTC is done for now. Nothing wrong with it. I continue to dca the price isn’t going up anytime soon.

Crypto-Camel420

Best time to buy! Who still has cash for BTC!?!?

rezilient

Governments have no way of knowing how much BTC people own on physical wallets. Again, BTC is BTC and the sooner people stop measuring it in fiat the better.

GoldmezAddams

Tokenized gold involves trusting a custodian, which largely defeats the point of both BTC and gold, imo. Being able to send claims to gold over the internet is cool, but you can't really own tokenized gold.

glasser999

BTC is 85k lol

glasser999

That works to a point, but if the situation gets severe I think it results in full meltdown. And MSTR holds such a massive share of the market, the waves would likely cause exchanges to start collapsing as well. Everything depends on BTC being above MSTRs cost basis in 2027-2028 when they have to pay their debts. I think it will be. The only thing separating MSTR from a ponzi is BTC going up forever. I hope Saylor is right, I think he is.

YuoKelly

I know btc since 2014 when I was a teen, I really don't care that much since Gold in Silvers are hedges against inflation and the other isn't. Most of you don't even remotely think of using your money for real estate or nothing. You want to become a milionare overnight and life like a modern life consumer. I made some modest profits from it, I will give you that because 500% profit was very nice but even just running a bussiness is literally more profitable per month (or at least where I'm from. Also the other 2 have usages and if I just want to use crypto to move money overseas I can just use stablecoins and there are some other choices I guess. Btc value is still dictated by the dollar. In an economical crash, what do you think will happen to BTC? Or when people stop buying it and just keep using it as a trading tool? To be fair with you I used to like crypto a lot until a certain someone attracted his inbred loonies into the crypto space, now I can just not stand it because it's full of trumpsters

devCheckingIn

I think it depends here. If it's true that most of this gold and silver is being bought by central banks in Asia, particularly China, then I don't think any of that will rotate into BTC.

nikedemon

Lol BTC is far from instant. Can take up to 10 minutes or more for transactions to go through. This is not ideal for real world commerce

VariatCA

I'm not talking about high-yield Junk bonds or desperation-mode Distressed bonds here. The *Treasury Bond* market is worth something like $29-30 Trillion, and is much, much less risky than Bitcoin or any stock market/commodity investment. And in general, you will find that the higher the valuation of an asset / asset class is, the less risky or volatile that asset tends to be. In terms of Crypto which is what the first poster was mentioning while referencing BTC's diminishing returns, he neglects to mention diminishing risk and intraday volatility compared to the past as well. People who want "high risk, high reward" in crypto tend to chase alts... and in 2025, have been met with the downsides of high-risk far more often than the upsides of high-reward.

Occasion_Small

yeah, I didn't realize that BTC dropping 50% at ANYTIME would liquidate me. Thought just dumping 50% from the price I bought it at would. Seems unfair but It makes sense, won't be doing that.

VectorCryptoLab

2x leverage isn’t insane, but calling it “safe indefinitely” is risky. BTC can drop 50% or more in a heartbeat, which would wipe out a 2x position. If you’re planning to HODL long-term and don’t want to babysit your trade constantly, sticking to spot BTC is way less stressful. Leverage is really better for short-term plays with active risk management.

Dismal-Birthday6081

Except Bitcoin tanks harder than the NASDAQ during a financial crisis. Look at it now, NASDAQ is -3.5% and BTC is -35%

Seingalt

That’s not correct: on the strategy website they ADD debt to calculate mNAV. The divide enterprise value by BTC to get mNAV. Essentially the idea is that in order to own the BTC that Strategy holds free and clear, you’d have to buy both all stock and also sold debt. That’s why the mNAV is still above 1, whereas the market cap of Strategy (all stock combined) is currently worth less than the BTC it holds.

LegitimateDream4942

Look at market cap of BTC compared to other asset classes. But consider this recent draw down and also the rally other asset classes have. Is it catching on relative to other assets? I don’t think it’s good judgement to compare BTC “adoption” to 0. It’s good to compare it relative to other investments.

inadyttap

850 days untill the next BTC block reward halving. Stack sats! 

IM-PT24

Literally the fear and gread index with BTC value overlapped... Check CoinMarketCap.

alterise

If you’re a holder, you wouldn’t you take risk of a high LTV loan against your BTC. No crying in the casino.

OKCPCREPAIR

It's wrapped BTC and is not pure Bitcoin, and therefore, a shit coin according to your previous hostile diatribes.

Kahlel23

Visa secures your money… BTC does not. Fin

repomies69

I put about 90% BTC, 10% index funds.

iamdiscoking

It's because we're at the end game now (at least the first act of it) there has been 6 months of story after story, press release after press release of institutions who historically have controlled and manipulated markets entering the BTC space.

elitesense

Yea, dude. This is a tale as old as BTC. Just don't sell the damned thing and regret it like everyone else that has ever sold during drops in the past. BTC isn't going anywhere

ZucchiniGlad4712

Pi coin is getting ready to take over BTC. I was predicted doge coin Exactly Day over will be $.50 in my channel. I had 10 million visit my channel, and I had to close account for some reason. But many of you probably remembers me. Now I am saying that Pi will be $500 by 2028. In a year 180X. Take a screenshot. That way you will remember.

SpaghettiTape

Some people can "afford" to HODL for a thousand years and some need to make decisions about "buy a house with some bitcoin or just HODL and keep renting?" or "retire now and HODL or sell some/all BTC and feel safely covered?" The general idea of "sit tight" vs "grind that trade broooooooooooo" is the key one. Useful until it's not.

Sufficient_Fuel5269

It's a simple fact that indicates there are people with a lot of money interested in buying BTC… they hold it, they sell it, nobody knows what they'll do… ✍️ We're waiting for further information 📊

ProfessionalWelcome

That's easy to say but hard to do. How do you know when to sell? BTC was doing exceptionally well on its way up as it passed 85k. If you sold at 90k and watched it rip up to 125k as it did, are you telling me you don't buy back in at 125k? But let's say you don't fomo back in at 125k and then you watch it fall back down to 85k where it is now. Are you buying back in? It's below your original sell but just barely. Chances are if you held off buying till now, you would wait a bit more for it to drop. Now what if it rockets back to 125k? You're sitting here with your pants down and your dick in your hands, that's what.

Inevitable_Pin7755

I used to think it had to be either stocks or BTC. What actually changed things for me was realising the order matters more than the assets. Income first, then boring consistency, then BTC when you can stomach volatility. Took me a while to learn that the hard way

RespectFront1321

If it corrects hard it’ll be because of a market wide crash. Believe it or not BCashers seem to have been building some cool stuff and upgrades. At one point I believe it was in the top 30 but clawed its way back to #11 slowly this year. It’s the only BTC fork that’s up there, others have all dropped out of the top 100.

xomox2012

Yeah probably but that would require a pretty massive rise in BTC price.

Sufficient_Fuel5269

That's a lot of money to buy a BTC all at once... I wish 😅

thebalancewithin

I'm about 60-70% stocks the rest in BTC/crypto

Tip-Actual

Institutional money has converted the 4 year cycle into a 3 month cycle. They are dropping / raising BTC price as they see fit for each quarter.

Glittering_Pick_9738

I didn't buy BCH at 3k but last year. This year BCH is 31% up. Way better than BTC.

NewNewspaperB

You must be new to this BTC thing.

YuoKelly

I mean I don't over leverage myself and I always put enough collateral to have a very high liquidation price. I always dip my toes get some profit and scram. I'm happy with some extra bonus cash. I only really short BTC and XRP right now, but mostly btc because the volatility is good but not enough to liquidate me :')

t0m0hawk

Lol they're all new and haven't scrolled further back then YTD. Anyone who's been watching BTC for a while had a feeling this drop was coming. Its very much not surprising to see *at all*.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

Ya alts get basically double dilution. Lots of them have inflation. On top of that the alt coin pool grows soooo much every year. If you bought every alt or just Bitcoin, Bitcoin would outperform over the long run. Could just simply look at BTC dominance and/or BTC market cap to entire crypto market cap. Even if you have an alt that outperforms it's such a hassle of when to buy and when to sell. It's literally just luck.

benjamminson

These rookies wont have the will power to post when BTC has bottomed at 35k

xomox2012

55k is roughly where I expect it to bottom out too but there is soo much more manipulation in BTC these days than there used to be.

LegitimateDream4942

Wall street is not fucking with the price. Wall street doesn't want BTC. Wall street uses AI to decide their trades. You guys see when interest rates first hiked, people went into bonds. And then interest rates are low, people are into equity. There is portfolio management. It's not just buy and hold. There's couple other common asset categories/classes: value stocks, growth stocks, gold/silver, GICs, etc. BTC was suppose to be an emerging asset class, but due to all the dips, it's not catching on.

Gaspajo

You call that huge? Every time I see these headlines I google "BTC USD" wondering if it's gone below 30k, only to realise a bunch of crybabies are making a storm in a teacup.

Lanky_Leek6677

Against basics like **BTC, ETH, or even just holding cash during drawdowns**, the majority of alts: * pumped briefly * then bled for months * and never fully recovered A few winners don’t offset the mental stress and opportunity cost of holding many losers. That’s why a lot of experienced holders stopped trying to pick alts and moved to **broad, rules-based exposure** instead. Something like **TM100** gives you market-wide exposure with automatic rebalancing, so you’re not stuck married to dying alts. Alts can outperform — but *only if you time them well*. Most people don’t.

OutsideWishbone7

That’s pretty much my spread too. 91% BTC 9% alts

phreakingjesusonacid

Oil is traded globally on the US dollar. There is speculation that BTC could replace the US dollar for oil, if it happens the value of BTC could increase substantially.

OpticallyMosache

I finally sold some BTC after DCAing for 8 years. Sold enough at $110k to take a year off between jobs. Figured it was worth having a year off while my kids were young. Will continue DCA'ing once I start working again.

Objective-Choice6518

I sold all my BTC during this year. Avg sell price of 110k. Bought them on 2021 at an avg buy price of 33k. Pretty happy with the results and firm believer of the cycles until It changes Im just on stocks and bonds right now, until mid 2026 when I'll buy BTC again (heavily)

Seattleman1955

It becomes a problem for treasury company shareholders, not for BTC. They will eventually have to stop and then the BTC will be sold off.

CoatComprehensive776

The big one will be forever life changing. All my buddies and even some family keep telling me to sell. Oh no. When BTC hits oil, I'll retire and laugh while sipping a margarita on the beach in Zihuatanejo. Ill meet up with Red and Andy!

Street_Outside_7228

Spread your buy capital over a 3yr period, BTC only.

Citizen_Kano

Do you think BTC wasn't volatile before this cycle?

clutchtho

Sell and move on and be thankful there wasn't another 0 at the end of the lesson. These coins are all cooked. After being in the space since 2017 I've learned three very important lessons: 1) 85% of your portfolio should be in Bitcoin/Eth that should only touched for guaranteed wins - I've sold some of my BTC this year to buy into coins I knew I was going to make money on (coin launches from teams I know and trusted). 2) Take the L sooner than you want and move on. Like you, I was heavy into Sei. I sold my bag a week or two ago at 16 cents after owning at 30 cents. Now its worth 10 cents. GG. 3) Always have USDC reserves for buying opportunities

piggleii

Are you saying if you played it perfectly and got an 8x with BTC, that would still not be enough for you?

longonbtc

The image is talking about lightning bitcoin transactions. The fee to send a bitcoin transaction on the lightning network is so low that it's negligible. Your client didn't send bitcoin from their own wallet. They withdrew bitcoin from an exchange. Exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (meaning it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee. [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month. If your client would have sent bitcoin from their own wallet then they could have chosen the fee and they could have chosen to pay less than a dollar worth of BTC for the fee. For example, someone literally just sent this on-chain bitcoin transaction of 0.03645553 BTC a few minutes ago and they paid a fee of 0.00000113 which is worth only 10 cents, and their transaction was included in the very next block 2 minutes after they broadcasted the transaction. You can view this transaction by clicking the following link: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/145a4b3809c8b9e173fabe28d0a43c6fa6c3f5edd14a007ae1b056ba183b0f89 And they actually overpaid 5 times more than they needed to. They could have paid 2 cents worth of BTC for the fee and their transaction would still have been included in the very next block.

Leithm

If you accept that by far the most valuable cryptocurrency (BTC) is very functionally limited you have to conclude that it has other attributes that are hard to Replicate.  Heritage/First mover Massive POW investment UTXO architecture Fair Launch If those things are important, and you add Satoshi’s original plan for a Peer to Peer money as a worthy goal, I think it gives you your answer.

Adept-Potato-2568

Not enough people are calling attention to this. They're essentially making the infrastructure to become a 'too big to fail' national security asset. Once that switch flips, the usual liquidation rules don't apply. It becomes an infinite liquidity loop for BTC collateral.

VariatCA

Everyone looks for immediate correlation and results, when often there are other concerning factors complicating the matter and stalling growth / momentum. That impatience is often what drives Retail to capitulation. It reminds me of when the BTC ETF launched in January 2024. Everyone had such high hopes, they were seeing positive inflows reported, and... the price just chopped and dropped for a month. And after people had spent an entire month cursing how we had been lied to by the media, and by wall street... suddenly everything turned full-steam-ahead. Within 5 weeks from early February to early March, BTC was up +60% and set a new all time high.

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Buddy_Palguy

Should I take my $17 out of Pepe and put it in BTC ?

Truth_Teller3

“You get BTC at the price you deserve” isn’t that what the crowd was chanting as we were hitting ATH’s?

Crypto-Voice-Pro

Smart move. With the way the market is swinging, focusing on BTC is the safest play. It’s better to have a strong position in Bitcoin than to be spread too thin across other coins that might not recover. Your future self will definitely thank you for buying these prices. Nerves of steel!

Apart_Bear_5103

It doesn’t matter. The BTC is held as collateral.

Apart_Bear_5103

Imagine buying BTC near a 4 year major top and taking a loan against it.

piggleii

Well, if you only held BTC, it has been.

OpticallyMosache

I don't feel scared right now and enjoyed upgrading my cold storage security yesterday. I bought a Trezor 3 and created a passphrase wallet. Consolidated all BTC to the single wallet. Was a little nervous since cumulatively it was a lot of BTC but Trezor made it really easy. My passphrase wallet's receiving addresses were labeled when entering the sending address from my older Trezor wallets. I was still meticulous but not as scary with labels. Good luck all!! Hold 💪

northcasewhite

I used to get down-vote a lot when I said that debt bring about many fragilities. People don't realize that our governments deal with these problem by creating more money. When you lend your BTC to people. How do you think they pay yield? They trade the BTC hoping to make money from that.

BerryImpossible412

Old whales selling heavily. New whales accumulating heavily. Still lots of sell pressure so lower prices at first. It’ll rebound though. We still don’t know the full extent of October 10th and how long it will take to recover. Fundamentally nothing changed in bitcoin, but how people view it may have changed. Short term price in 90% manipulated. Long term is not….We don’t know the true price of bitcoin until it truly runs out and becomes scarce. Bitcoins biggest threat is itself. It is a threat to the current global power/monetary system. They will not go down without a fight and they will try and manipulate it down, destroy sentiment, paper BTC etc….or absorb as much as they can if they can’t destroy it.