BTC

PulIthEld

Gold is not analog BTC, it's just worse.

2026Firehorse

Yes, yes it does. BTC 📉

Veronica_JW

BTC to ATH is a matter of when.

2026Firehorse

Yes. Sounds like a 🆕 investor. Been in BTC since 2012. Seen quite a few stock market corrections. Trend is your friend till the end. I “Hope” you’re right. But my experience and date from being in the markets past 3 decades tell me otherwise…

Mother_Apartment310

BTC will break through 100K in the short term and reach a new high

Lekkerbesje

BTC is to big for the common folks to understand.

Bionic_Push

It's ok to invest in BTC, but please just make sure you have enough cash on the side to endure 3-4 year bear market cycles. You don't want to be forced to sell on a bear market

Original-Medicine298

I will go back to 2010 and buy 1000 BTC so that I will be rich in the future

Radiant_Selection-

BTC has not even went below previous ATH and it’s “extreme fear” - fucking nonsense

spuriouslycertain

My own story is quite a unique one.I got married in 2010 and a friend of mine offered me 500 BTC as a wedding gift. I unfortunately turned him down thinking I can do without monopoly money.BTC was around 50 cents back then.

jellicenthero

BTC is tied to money supply. Once interest rates drop and Trump turns on the printers it'll rocket.

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

People have said that bitcoin often follows large movements in gold with a lag of 80-90 days. Gold started to move in late October, and has continued for a few months. If the behaviour (BTC following gold) has any validity, then the next few months will be interesting. But it may not follow gold. Maybe BTC is more commonly following global money supply. I don't know.

Ris0Ris0tt0

Quick question; with what do you plan to live after paycheck is gone in BTC?

TheModernJedi

bro. please use Strike instead of Robinhood. They have the same paycheck to BTC feature. Except it's made just for that. Please don't use Robinhood.

BamBam_postal

They have lower spreads between buys and sells. They make a bit less per transaction. I am not sure on RH but I know river and strike offer a free transfer once per month so you can move BTC off exchange to cold storage without paying transaction sats.

Best-Fun-4742

Honestly, sideways BTC after a big move is healthy. It shakes out leverage, builds support, and lets spot demand catch up. The "stablecoin" phase usually ends with a violent candle just not on our schedule.

andtoig

I think that's something like Bitcoin absolutely could and should supplant the US dollar as a global currency, but BTC itself would require significant Network upgrades to make this happen.

Subject_Bowl215

\#BTC

Ok_Task_8516

When BTC was $15K… they waited for $5K … then BTC shot up to $69k Even when BTC was at $3K… they waited for BTC to drop to $0. Now it’s $90K. Who is still waiting ?

flying-fox200

Just buy BTC+ETH and hold. Don't trade.

chaddachamp

Other people have mentioned above but if you have conviction, DCA is probably the best way to go. Price doesn’t matter at that point as long as BTC goes to the moon

ILLIDARI-EXTREMIST

"It was then digital gold, and over the last 5 years it has underperformed physical gold." This is literally not true. Gold is up 142% over 5 years and BTC is up 178%. Why did you lie?

ozera202

Gold is a Store of Value .... BTC is a shit coin that will only go up in Good economic times , not when ppl are broke

orangeyougladiator

Hot tip; BTC is dead. It was originally a currency and that idea was cancelled. It was then digital gold, and over the last 5 years it has underperformed physical gold. The only people left are the miners in debt with data centers they need to pay for artificially keeping it inflated. If you can’t see that the hedge currencies are still rising against USD when that was supposed to be BTC then you should go back to school.

malte_brigge

Most of them didn't hold for 15 years. Anyway, I'm not upset that some whales sold. I'm upset at how much and how relentlessly they sold even as prices were going down, nuking the market for their own gain. They went 0–100. Also, credit where it's due but I was around in those days myself. I would have gone in heavy sub $100 had I not been near broke at the time. Even the BTC stack I have now is nearly 10 years old. So they held. Big whoop. I'm still hodling (in the shattered market they left behind) and I'm not impressed.

DrSpeckles

BTC isn’t underperforming , it’s performing right where it should be

malte_brigge

When is BTC gonna pick its dick up off the floor and stop getting embarrassed by gold and silver and every other asset class in existence the way it has been for the past several months, that's the question.

Saimano34

Why so many ppl believe in BTC. I have my doubts. Better invest the 500$ somewhere else.

JumpDue7186

“Two things can be true: (1) LLMs remix existing info, and (2) most human comments on Reddit also remix existing info. Very little of anything in investing is ‘new or groundbreaking’—it’s applying known ideas to the current situation. Also… you’re literally describing the point of writing: taking scattered facts and tying them together so people can react, critique, and add nuance. If you want to treat it like a ‘Google result,’ cool—then quote the parts you think are wrong and refute them. If your best argument is ‘this isn’t novel,’ that’s not a rebuttal, it’s just you saying you prefer raw links over a coherent take. So which claim do you actually disagree with—institutions using regulated rails, BTC trading with liquidity/risk cycles, or the idea that “boring” usually signals maturation? Pick one and let’s talk.”

Sodiac606

Shitcoins are called shitcoins because... well they're shit. I learned my lesson too (thank god only with a loss of +/- 100 USD) but I got burned once and stay with 80% BTC 20% ETH atm.

Sage_of_spice

As an idiot, I found it pretty dificult to get into when it first launched. Nobody really wanted to share their secrets about it and the exchanges were pretty predatory with high fees and minimum volumes. Felt like a meme/scam for dumbasses who wanted to make money without having to work. I heard bits and pieces in passing but honestly it never seeemd to real until I first saw a machine while I was out. That was when it became real for me. I'd toyed with mining and soft wallets over the years but lost anything I accumulated. Never really got too serious about it but here to lurk and learn. I have accounts on Blockchain and Coinbase I'm currently trying to get access to. I had dumped a few paychecks on one of them for BTC back in like 2015 or so. Damn email provider deleted my account though.

Illustrious-Boss9356

Once Trump coin trades at sub-$1, gold hits $15k and governments restrict gold ownership directly or indirectly (happens every time historically), we'll see BTC make its way back towards $1m a coin. If quantum threat is real and the network cannot come to consensus on what to do with Satoshi's coins, then all bets are off.

Every_Hunt_160

BTC won't go up until all the degen retail gamblers dump all their bags at a loss

Dneail22

Dude BTC is already worth 1 billion ||Uzbekistani som||

Mauer_Bluemchen

Ammh, no... BTC is already beyond it's peak. Gold has been increasing it's share of global market capitalization very quickly, exponentially - and BTC is falling behind. The gap is 18(!):1 now, and widening...

adiabatic_storm

All good lessons learned. However, sometimes I wonder about the butterfly effect. What if those guys had never sold and gotten some of that BTC out into distribution, so to speak? Maybe things would still be the same today, but then again maybe not. Mining was still a good option back then, so it's not like these OGs had to sell for others to access BTC, but I'm sure that not everyone was necessarily trying to mine.

oneden

Not confident enough to take high stakes bets, but I feel crypto is overall toast. Hardly anyone talks about it, hardly anyone actually uses it. It's has a piss poor UX and is incredibly vulnerable. I'm happy I sold a while ago before BTC dipped under 100k - I don't think it has a bright future. Gold and Silver have outperformed it, the entire stock market outperformed it for years now with fewer risks.

flying-fox200

Yes, buy BTC, but please self-custody. "Not your keys, not your coins!" BlueWallet on iOS/Android is good. For serious amounts, eventually transition to a [hardware wallet](https://trezor.io/).

JumpDue7186

BlackRock/Fidelity/etc. are wrappers, not the end-buyer — the buyers are RIAs managing client money, pensions/retirement accounts, funds, corporates, and family offices using those regulated rails. Saying “it’s not institutions because there are fees” is like saying nobody owns gold because GLD charges an expense ratio. And it’s not just US players. Sovereign/treasury-type entities get exposure too, including countries that aren’t publicly “pro-crypto” (they just do it quietly and indirectly). Even Harvard’s endowment has publicly disclosed a big Bitcoin ETF position. If “institutions aren’t buying,” basic question: who’s buying the underlying BTC when ETF shares are created — the magic internet money fairy? 🧚‍♂️

JumpDue7186

So your argument is basically “it doesn’t count unless everyone uses a hardware wallet.” That’s…a take. If ETFs “don’t count,” do you also say gold isn’t real adoption because most people own it via GLD or vault services? If institutions are “just charging fees,” cool—who’s buying the underlying BTC then when shares are created? Magic? “Not following M2” — why would a global liquidity asset track M2 perfectly on your preferred timeline? Zoom out: when liquidity tightens, risk assets bleed. When liquidity loosens, they rip. That’s not a failure, that’s markets. “Not a hedge vs inflation” — over what window? Bitcoin’s been a terrible short-term hedge at times, agreed. But if your claim is it’s not a hedge at all, what’s your cutoff date that makes that true? Also: what’s the alternative you’re implying? That Bitcoin should stay niche forever so it “feels” more pure?

InFLIRTation

Nasdaq did 20% plus and canada did over 30%, BTC is so behind with 2025 being red 😥

epic_trader

So I looked it up and it seems I only remembered half of the story. Early Bitcoin mining software defaulted to sending rewards using p2pk, which exposes the public key instead of a hash of the public key. So essentially, everyone who mined and found a reward revealed their public key when receiving the mining rewards. But not regular people who just received a tx but didn't send anything. Another issue that I didn't realize before, is that if quantum computers reach the point of being able to crack a private key within less than say 60 minutes, no one is safe anymore. There's no guarantee of safely migrating funds after this point. As soon as you submit your transaction to the mempool and expose your public key, an attacker would start trying to derive your private key. You can imagine that the moment anyone with a large amount of BTC submits a transction, attackers could spam the network with high tx fee transactions to prevent the target's transction from going through while they are at work, maybe miners join in on this and submit empty blocks.

SureWalrus

It's not about the amount of money because it will fluctuate, it's about the amount of BTC you're holding you should look at. 🙏

1baruch

15% from what Op? from the high it hit under Trump😂 Blame Trump for BTC inflated costs..crypto has become a meme, far away from its original intent.

Crypto_future_V

When BTC sneezes, alts catch a cold

Albako442

Why? Why should anyone invest in it? What's the reason for investing in BTC besides selling it later for a higher price? Is there any other reason? 

pequalnp92

BTC fell a lot relative to gold, which is also primarily a store of value. If gold with 30 trillion market cap can have a rally like that, BTC has a lot more upside coming.

spirax919

Its not about decision, his shares are worth less when BTC is in a bear so its harder for him to raise capital to buy BTC with. do you people even bother listening to him when he talks?

dylonz

I label old hard drives BTC bank and make files named BTC wallet and random empty wallet phrases. I donate them and I think I'm changing lives.

devCheckingIn

The irony is that BTC was created precisely because of that event in 2008. The purpose was to shield people from that kind of chaos and central bank quackery. Now it's the opposite where you need completely placid waters to go up a little bit. It's no wonder so many OG whales dumped their BTC last year.

epic_trader

> As much as people want it to be digital gold, its also an emerging technology with its flaws. Yes so any sane person, this is a rational take and the rational way to go about the situation, but apparently not in Bitcoin land. > Now Its a matter of deciding if we want these coins lost to hackers or to the void where they wont be dumped on exchanges. If you hae a large fortune in a bitcoin wallet you are unwilling to migrate, too bad. Okay but here comes the problem. What happens to all the people who can't access their BTC at the moment? Let's say you're in prison, or in a coma, or being held against your will, or suffered brain damage and or temporary amnesia or whatever. The promise was the Bitcoin was digital gold, that you could leave it on your ledger or bury your private key and come back 20 years later and your Bitcoin would remain unchanged and as valid as the day you left it. This promise is dead if someone decides that old coins are now void.

ozera202

I can’t wait for the economy to actually top and the start collapsing with massive sell offs like 2008 , you will see how BTC is hedge against inflation/ Digital Gold when it hits $1000 or lower 😂. If 2022 and ftx can bring it down to 15k Imagen events like 2008 . My only last hope is if we get a rally for the new Fed replacement then I’m dumping this POS asset class

PuttForDough

Long game bro. That’s it. He and the board are convinced in Bitcoins future value. The question is what will strategy do once the value increase and they are sitting on the single largest corporate BTC position in the world? What will they do with that position and value. Become a bank? This is the question I ponder about why holding strategy vs a BTC ETF. They could find a way to leverage it to do greater things beyond just holding BTC as a treasury asset. But I hadn’t seen anything that answers what the long term plan is once BTC is more valuable and adopted.

Blockchainauditor

It sounds like you do not understand what you are being encouraged to exchange for your money. Before you make any decision, you should understand the nature ("Satoshi" as a unit of BTC/Bitcoin, Bitcoin Satoshi's Vision (BSV), the Satoshi meme coin, or something else. How would you determine if you "don't like it" if you have no question what it is?

Ztoxed

BTC moves the Crypto . That is all anyone need to know. All the other coinage is, just like farts in a storm. BTC will be the first to fall and they all will fall after. BTC will be the first to rise, and all will rise after. Of course not 100% but BTC runs the show for now.

Radiant_Setting9172

Bitcoiners= people who own Bitcoin. You think this a just a stage BTC has to go through? I find it very hard to believe it will ever go back to what it was in 2013, 2017, or even 2021. Asset class is maturing, it will probably also not go down -80% as in previous cycles, but its inability to put even a 2x from past cycle top is telling. So yeah, I have no doubt it will perform like stocks from now on. Probably a bit better next cycle compared to this one, if we’ll be in QE, not QT

RetiredAvocado

The only place you should send out BTC from these services is to your own wallet. If you can't then go to a different service. An app is a front end. You need to find a good exchange service, then check to see if they have an app. Depends on your country, on your credit, and whether you can read instructions too.

Just-Complaint-2094

It’s a giant casino. Own some BTC let it sit and save your money. Invest in some stocks. Not a single person on here makes money day trading. The market has been up 4-5 years so everyone clams to be an expert. All the crypto people claiming to kill it I’d rather make 30% last year on stocks than -10% most cryptos ended the year around. Long term game

GlassBit7081

lets say its 15 years away, really 10 years away. WHen will it impact BTC pricing, likely 5 years. So, in 5 years, Chase and Strategy will launch a HUGE dev push to move the chain.

Spicyocto

Thank you. Pretty much That. I just sell periodically. My aim is for about 3-4% annually which covers my costs and will last me indefinitely as the value of BTC should continue to rise. My wife enjoys her job so we get cash that way as well. I also have set ATH price targets that I’ll sell a fraction so I don’t feel like I missed out on downturns.

_SlipperySalmon_

Exactly... I was frantically buying not that long ago at 115K. Unless you think it ain't headed back above 125K this is a glorious buying chance. About a 40% increase back to 125K. Average SP500 return is about 10-12% annual. Even if you assume 3 years at 12% return, that would JUST break even with the 40% increase on BTC from current price to prior ATH

Escapement_Watch

BTC eth sol link Agreed

stonktaker

lol What are you even talking about, it's the fact that the fed has acted this way, causing this huge K shaped economy, is the reason BTC has performed so well, ending that is the opposite of what's good for BTC. The reason BTC has not had these huge blow off tops the cycle is because Scot Bessant is putting the printed money in to the real economy and not the market, This is a good thing, but it's not good for BTC, and the price has reflected that. Yes the way the world works, the printing, the fact that if the stock market stuggles, they will save it by putting the printed money into the markey, means BTC is a great buy for the long run, but the stuff Scot Bessant is talking about is not what's good for BTC in the short-term. So I don't know why your rooting for Scot and saying look how amazing it is for BTC. it's litterly opposite of what you want if it's BTC you want pump.

BainTrain55

Could be up 6% on gold if you invested 7 days ago. 10.5% 30 days ago. Unless you guys seriously think BTC is going to pop off over the next month. Just buy gold and transition back. Once gold pulls back(and it will) it’s not like BTC, it wont just randomly drop 20% in a week and you lost your chance. You’ll have plenty of time to take your money back out.

SettingFriendly4339

I am wondering… would it be better to invest in BTC or stocks?

Whatswrongwiththat52

After being around since 2019 Stack and hold BTC If you feel like adding ETH/SOL/Link cool....but still same strategy stack and hold Don't buy any shit

BainTrain55

Could be up 6% on gold if you invested 7 days ago. 10.5% 30 days ago. Unless you guys seriously think BTC is going to pop off over the next month. Just buy gold and transition back. Once gold pulls back(and it will) it’s not like BTC, it wont just randomly drop 20% in a week a half. You’ll have plenty of time to take your money back out.

whisperedstate

Oh yeah? Whats the plan to move the BTC then? Who is coordinating this massive upgrade to Bitcoin? I thought the protocol was ossified? So now you need some devs to make a roadmap and hard fork the protocol? You going to set a timer and force people to move thwir coins, or else they'll be frozen?

DryMyBottom

unfortunately we often need to learn the hard way 😔 just hold BTC now (maybe some little DCA if you can), and if you can be patient for like 29 years, you'll be rewarded, more than you can probably imagine

TapThatYak

Rich is relative. We all wish we bought bitcoin 10 years ago or never sold. I just hate to be that guy who bought pizza for 10k BTC... Tough burden

InerasableStains

In our community, yes. To the broader public, they have no clue what FTX was. But everybody is now aware that this stuff is being used to openly bribe public officials with no repercussions. Ultimately…. Don’t think it’s going to make much difference to BTC, just pointing out there’s a very different circumstance

Individual_Tower_638

sure buddy when the recession hits soon and everything starts going down BTC will surely go up

Djtdave

There are factors that favor loosing your BTC when using a cold wallet too. You could loose, forget, get stolen, burned, ectorted, etc.... your seedphrase too.

bbatardo

What do you think the price would be if Saylor wasn't buying all of that BTC OTC? They would end up on exchanges lol.

SameWeekend13

There is no way they can buy 50% of the BTC impossible.

gigasawblade

Even if it all goes well, I don't get long term plan. What is the target? At some point buying more BTC becomes more detrimental than not. I mean if they buy up 100 or even 50% of whole supply, it will break the market. Even at current \~3.5% they produce noticeably impact, I feel like at this rate in 5-10 years they'll reach 10% and then need to seriously rethink their strategy, or people will start question decentralization

heinzmoleman

20+ million shitcoins in 4 years. Most are scams that end in rug pulls. There's BTC and there is shitcoins, that's it.

heinzmoleman

BTC trades 25X that in a single day. A single buy once a week via OTC isn't going to move the needle.

heinzmoleman

MS is not concerned with short time spikes. It does nothing for BTC or MSTR. MS is a BTC maxi who knows in the future BTC will only be more valuable.

CapitalIncome845

It's worth what people will pay for it. Basic supply and demand. People who bought at $100 now want their super yachts and mansions so are selling because it hit a big round number ($100k). Big institutional buyers are buying. Us plebs just get bounced around in the waves, but know that there will only ever be 21 million BTC. Eventually all the old holders will have enough yachts mansions and lambos, and will stop selling. Then watch out.

Real-Technician831

Yeah in Euro BTC doesn’t look that impressive, a big part of BTC gains is USD getting weaker.

bortasiastr

BTC got addicted to darkweb purchases

Jayar9000

My first purchase was my best one, should have put in a larger sum and just leave it there. BTC at 17k

ykliu

Yeah. The same argument can be made for stocks, even broad market funds, that if people to expect high returns they likely get burned when they invest too much and it doesn’t go up. My point is that BTC can be part of a diversified portfolio that one invests in regularly over long time horizons. You just need to treat it as a component of a balanced portfolio and stay on strategy even when things don’t look good

justcurious3287

I love BTC, and it's ALWAYS a good time to buy. (P.S. Especially in this sadistically terrible market)

KaSrAHiDe

Don't touch your spot holdings, just go for hedging. Short BTC and others with low leverage and come back at the end of 2026

krum_99

Genuinely asking. If I went to buy BTC, where do you guys recommend storing it?

RandoDude124

If BTC survived multiple dips, Terra and FTX debacle… it’ll survive Trump.

kirtash93

My fav time to accumulate BTC is when its sideways.

Muddy-Waterz

This is it. I was going to comment something similar. The way to do this is not by hammering in the word BTC, or shoving anything down their throat. Let them become aware of the problems that are solved or improved by BTC, let them figure it out themselves through your guidance. They need to really understand the issues before knowing the solution.

H8ckt1v1st

Bitcoin is not crypto. Bitcoin is math. math that will produce exactly 21M coins. The market of whales and TradFi are playing sleight of hand to distract you. Don't pay attention to FUD, simply have more SATs tomorrow than you have today. Your future self will reward your diligence in BTC, Fiat will be a history book lesson.

BainTrain55

Just buy gold and silver and ride the ship then jump back into BTC. It ain’t going parabolic anytime soon. We’re missing out on all the gains sitting in on the sidelines. Especially once some actual bad news comes out and BTC really starts to go down. God speed everyone.

3DanO1

I mean, in hindsight obviously. But if BTC was at 200k, it would looks like a great decision

3DanO1

I’d rather have BTC than USD, and the more BTC I can get for that USD, the better. If BTC is sub100k by like 2040, sure, I’ll look dumb. But I think the chances of that are low. It’s a risk I’m willing to take, it’s all house money at this point anyway I’d rather buy sats at 50k and 90k

Crawsh

Bitcoin will have a very acrimonious hard for over QR, and split to legacy chain with no resistance and QR chain. One will be lile BTC, other like BCH. My bet is QR will.be BTC. But that's after years of debates and fights, dragging BTC down, and giving ETH a chance to take over.

epic_trader

Yes, but where most networks can update their cryptography, Bitcoin community refuses to change the protocol. And with 20% of all BTC potentially vulnerable to getting stolen, that's a big problem. A problem that has no solution other than freezing people's BTC, completely destroying the idea of BTC being "digital gold".

HumanNo109850364048

If we wait until SHTF, this risk overhang will have destroyed many years of BTC demand and credibility. This risk needs to be addressed ASAP

WSSquab

Basel III will collapses gold based ETF, BTC will be one of the few liquid heavens available

epic_trader

>Any bitcoin address from the early days that sent BTC and still has some remaining is particularly vulnerable to quantum attacks Even early Bitcoin addresses that didn't send BTC are vulnerable.

A1JX52rentner

Let's hope gold leads the path for BTC. I could imagine older folks with money realizing what s going on, but they just don't have BTC on their agenda.