BTC

Snowman33001

They sold 6916 BTC recently and currently hold 846,000 BTC. That was a sale of 0.8% of their holdings. The reason was to inoculate the market against BTC sales and raise dollars to buy back STRC/neutralize their debt. STRC is about $9.3B right now borrowed at 12% - but this is the key -the principal never has to be paid back. They think it has the potential to grow and their shareholders agree. Also mNAV has gone below one before. It then got up to 3/4. Now it’s at about 1.2. Nobody knows what the mNAV is going to do. It is purely a reflection of sentiment, and sentiment is fickle. What is clear is that MSTR has outperformed BTC since 8/10/20, and MSTR has paid all its obligations up to this date. So far, the business model is working and profitable.

AriesThef0x

Assuming your bought at today’s prices you’d have about 1.18 BTC. Just for perspective I sold 1.2 BTC damn near the peak of last year and bought my first home with 30% down and a decent savings cushion. 1.18 on a sufficient time horizon should absolutely be a decent amount.

No-Masterpiece2246

Even more fundamentally, they need to book a profit from buying/selling BTC, therefore they'll always be less profitable for a shareholder than somebody who just bought BTC.

No-Masterpiece2246

We're long past that phase. This shite is a pure stock pump-n-dump play built off a number-go-up retard Maxi meme. The BTC chain doesn't adhere to Satoshi's concepts. It will never scale thus it can't be a peer to peer payment system. Unless you like high fees and deliberately limited capacity. Imagine if you could only send 10 emails per day!

Greedy-Helicopter-99

BTC is a 4 year hold...no guarantees in 2 yeara.

Business_Cold4393

Recordatorio que estamos ante una posible ww3, en puertas de una crisis energetica total, japon necesita ser rescatada y adicionalmente EEUU y muchos paises de la Eurozona estan con bonos en maximos. Si alguien te dice que BTC puede llegar a 130k USD, ten en cuenta que "puede" significa que puede como tambien que no puede. Ten mente fria, la post pandemia atrajo mucha gente influensiable y que sus transacciones hacen mucho ruido en el mercado, lastimosamente el acceso a internet y el surgimiento de plataformas exchange solo trajo aun mas incertidumbre a un mercado ya dominado por la incertidumbre como el mundo de las criptos.

colemusic1

Risky? To put $100k into S&P 500 or BTC, you’re going my to say is riskier than BTC? Sorry dude but are you new to the stock market, or crypto market for that matter?

Betuko_

No te vuelvas loco , el precio del BTC es algo que tú no controlas y no puedes poner tu vida entera en algo que no controlas , ve tranquilo.

T_sauce9112

I use my job as my main retail sentiment gauge, and ABSOLUTELY no one wants anything to do with BTC. I wouldn't gauge what's going on as euphoria, but its still early, hasn't even been 24hrs. 2022 bear market rally hit 25.2k after crashing down to 17k, about 42% up After it hit 25.k, it earased all of it and went on to make the final low of 15.5k. This time could be different, but its always smart to be defensive.

Mwilley23

Time after time. It just amazes me that people jump into self custody and don't take the time to freaking understand what that entails. Sometimes with TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars worth of BTC. Insanity.

WeGottaTalkAboutYT

It’s just nice to have a positive rip again, it’s been a genuinely long time in terms of BTC standards

omg_its_dan

1 BTC+ is the top few percent of holders

NeedleworkerDue9121

Why said war? Every government will protect their currencies but all politicians love BTC, it is not for civilians…

T_sauce9112

Most retail participants don't want to touch it, everyone is still chasing the AI narrative. With this move I'm curious if the main stream media outlets will start shilling it. Regardless too many people are bullish now, that's a recipe for disaster. If BTC broke 83k and it was quiet, and no one was sure of it, everyone was skeptical, fear and greed was still sub 40, I'd say this is for real. We are at fear and greed 78, right after breaking 83k, before a pull back retest and go, when we still have 93k above, and 100k. Fear and greed 78?! This early?! That's fucking wild!!!! Either this time is different, or we have a correction coming...

BastianHS

As someone that's been in BTC for a while now, never say never! 😂😭

game_changer_world

Thanks for the info, I know its not much BTC, but its better than nothing to be honest.

Blade_Runner_69

Every BTC the UK government holds is theft or seizures. All governments do it tbh

pomplemice

from the dump. somebody told me to dive into a landfill and find some hard drives. I fished out an HDD with a bunch of BTC and don't know what to do

zerg_001

This. 6%.. hell 20% swings for BTC is nothing

ZucchiniIntrepid719

Unless you're friends with the top 8 BTC account holders, you have no business making any predictions.

Pretend_Key_3980

That's a tough spot to be in! Hopefully, BTC makes a comeback before you make any big decisions.

OoFrosty88

Fiat is a monopoly cartoon. BTC to the moon

Random_Person_246810

Why don’t you like Jack? All he does is educate people on BTC.

HueJaPenus

Im still up 97% in BTC with buys in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026.... Always be buying

JimmySki6166

I’ve been purchasing BTC weekly since 2019, regardless of the price!

Snowman33001

Is that why MSTR is outperforming BTC since the company started acquiring it? Looks like the business model is working. At least for now.

Ucscprickler

These are the people that buy .01 BTC at 65k and then sell it at 68k, making a sweet $24 profit after short term capital gains taxes and then feel like geniuses.

weouthere96

I bought STRC and cucked myself. Depeg near the BTC bottom had me down 20k I couldn't bring myself to risk anymore capital. Congrats regards!

fittes7

Yeah, its you with your 0.465291 BTC

FrontProfessional651

Keep running BTC 🏃‍♀️ 💪 ✨️ we need 100k ...

KidAmulet

Don't let unit price bias make you pick subpar digital assets. You can buy 0.1 of a SOL or 0.001 of a BTC. 10,000 HBAR is currently around the same dollar value as 7.5 SOL. You don't get extra points for having 10,000 of something.

KidAmulet

BTC has had its day and needs to be laid to rest. Put in a mix of ETH, SOL, and ZEC.

Cedarapids

Now do BTC against an inflating away USD the last two years. BTC holders lost their ass.

No_Cat_8269

What you're seeing is a screenshot with multiple red flags that strongly point to an investment scam. The image shows a purported trade details section posted by a user on the Reddit forum [r/Bitcoin](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/), where an account is simulated with completely unrealistic and contradictory numbers. ------------------------------ ## 🔎 Breakdown of Inconsistencies (Red Flags) * Colossal fictitious balance: Shows a "Qualifying balance" of 441 BTC. At the exchange rate indicated on the screen ($86,803.18), that amount would be worth more than $38 million. No legitimate platform gives away or assigns million-dollar balances out of thin air to ordinary users. * Outdated or manipulated exchange rate: Shows the price of Bitcoin at $86,803.18. Although the crypto market is highly volatile, fraudulent platforms often manipulate internal prices or freeze past quotes to make users believe they are operating in a legitimate environment. * Zero-cost transaction and zero totals: It says "Total $0.00" and "Fees $0.00," but above it displays an amount of "Bitcoin amount: 1 BTC." It is mathematically impossible to acquire or transfer 1 real BTC at a total cost of zero. * Promise of fixed return ("Bonus rate"): It details an annualized interest rate of 2%. In the real Bitcoin ecosystem, the currency does not generate interest on its own simply by being held. Platforms that promise "fixed returns" or "bonuses" for holding balances are usually Ponzi schemes where real money never enters the market. ------------------------------ ## ⚠️ How the Scam Works: How does this scam operate? These types of interfaces are part of a scam known as the fake trading platform scam: 1. The bait: They show you a website or app (with attractive charts and inflated balances) where it appears you've earned or received a large amount of Bitcoin. 2. The trap: When you try to withdraw this supposed money ("qualifying balance"), the platform blocks the withdrawal. 3. The extortion: They'll ask you to deposit your real money (fiat or crypto) under the pretext of paying "withdrawal taxes," "network fees," "verification costs," or "account upgrades." 4. The outcome: Once you make this deposit to "release" your supposed earnings, the scammers disappear with your real money, and the balances on the screen remain frozen or are erased. ------------------------------ ## 💡 Recommendations for Your Financial Security Since you mentioned being new to this ecosystem, the golden rule in the crypto world is: If it seems too good to be true, it's a scam. * Don't deposit money: Under no circumstances should you send funds to "release," "unlock," or "pay fees" for balances that appear suspicious in these types of applications. * Use regulated intermediaries: If you want to acquire Bitcoin safely, do so only through recognized international exchanges or local platforms supervised by your country's financial authorities. * Learn about custody: In legitimate cryptocurrencies, you control your funds through private keys (seed phrases) using non-custodial wallets. Any balance that depends on the whims of an unknown website is likely to disappear. To help you navigate safely, could you tell me where you obtained this application or if someone contacted you to offer this investment? This will allow me to give you specific steps to protect your accounts or report the site.

Any-Pipe-3196

He really wasn't that wrong tbh. I mean he missed it by a month. I think he overstepped on being too bearish by thinking this would be a normal BTC bear market after a relatively muted bull market

Traditional_Most105

Just set a range of profits you're comfortable selling and feeling good about it... You can't predict the market. When BTC was at 75000 - 78000 i saw people saying it will go back to 60000 and 50000 and that the bottom will still come. Now that it's at 85000 people are more bullish. If it goes back to 78000 people will start predicting bearish outcomes.... So no one can predict anything... They only confirm their predictions after the outcome is already obvious. If you put money you can afford to lose and accept any consequences, if you do your research on the coins you have and you believe they have potential of reaching higher prices in the long term and if you aren't comfortable taking the current profits you already have then why sell? Just to position yourself better? And if that never happens? I prefer to hodl and put money gradually thinking of them as money i could waste in other useless stuff. I also believe some of my coins will rise more than they are today so i am holding, buying at different prices and hoping for the best... If the profits go to the desired range i might sell some and leave some for a potential higher price... If not i either lose money or wait for the next increase in prices which it might or might not come... In the end it depends on what your end goals are.... If you want to take profits gradually then you have to accept the possibility of prices rising more than you thought. If you hold long term hoping for higher prices you have to accept that prices might start dropping. So just set your own rules when to sell and when to buy and accept the consequences...

No-Masterpiece2246

Strategy is not out of the woods yet. STRC is a shitcoupon and the market knows it. It'll take a BTC pump past $100k to fix their books.

GGudMarty

Gonna go ofer 100k again soon and listen to mutual fund purists tell us about how dumb we are about BTC lol

Backrus

Yeah, calling for blue skies ahead at pico top of 2021, so good. Not to mention having close to 0 alts that cycle. His only good call was being BTC heavy into ETF era and that's about it (and even that was quite a lucky call because nobody could predict that IBIT options would kill vol to the point that GVZ flipped BVIV early this year, and BTC would have vol like Google while offering no additional upside and much more downside). Keep in mind that he doesn't trade but has been living off subscriptions since he wasn't balding that much lol So him being right or wrong is a blow to his ego, not to his net worth.

TheBestintheWest11

funny things is China confiscated those BTC lol

Temporary-Cause730

This same post was made when BTC went from 63k to 80k, lol

Temporary-Cause730

Well, it could happen, sure. But if the bull market is confirmed, I doubt it. The fact that it's making an ATH at this stage tells me it has a lot of to grow, just like HYPE and LIT. Besides those, I have my main bag of BTC and a little bit of ETH/SOL/PUMP Btw, what are your bags right now, and what are you looking to buy soon? 

i_marketing

In hindsight, there was so much resistance in the 60K range. I bought a little in the low 60K range, but of course there was the possibility that BTC would drop to the 50K range, 40K range, or lower, etc, when we were in the 60K range. But yeah, now that we can look at the past, 60K was where the resistance was, and it was difficult for BTC to go lower than it. Oh well, hindsight is hindsight, nobody knows the future.

faisal_yk26

Ha, fair. Yours was on the timeline though, mine was on the wording. And the last comment in your thread says "BTC hash encryption safe for long time", which is pretty much the mix-up I meant. Good video though.

i_marketing

In hindsight, there was so much resistance in the 60K range. I bought a little in the low 60K range, but of course there was the possibility that BTC would drop to the 50K range, 40K range, or lower, etc, when we were in the 60K range. But yeah, now that we can look at the past, 60K was where the resistance was, and it was difficult for BTC to go lower than it. Oh well, hindsight is hindsight, nobody knows the future.

Steel-Tempered

198,109 BTC = $17,152,877,490.27 US National Debt = $40,125,046,192,853.00 (and rising every second) = US still $40 Trillion in debt after BTC. China, only has $18.7 USD trillion in debt, so China is the net winner.

GigglesGirth

Ehhh, I'm saying no one knows, the fortune tellers think the bottom will be in Q4 but we have just put in a new high so it's looking bullish. It's just normally better to average out to hedge your bets. What I don't believe will happen is that we keep running and BTC breaks ath anytime this year. That'll be mid next year. Maybe if you feel like it's going to keep running and you are struggling with FOMO put 40-50% in quicky then DCA the rest

dbll888

You can buy a LOT more coins if you buy a crypto that is cheap now and that is going to be used in the coming years. Look up Weiss ratings. You can look at their analysis for free. They've been something like 90% correct in their recommendations over many many years. They show you ratings from A+ to E- and tell you the coins rate of adoption and it's rating in being used by tech co's, etc. ENA is rt below BTC and has an excellent rating and is under 25 cents or it was earlier today.. Grass is cheap and rated very highly too. You'll make more profit by buying the coins that are pretty much just starting out, are cheap and are going to be utilized. If you buy BTC like everyone is saying, your buying power will be a LOT less and your profit will be less. You'll be able to buy much more of these highly rated, inexpensive coins. Do some research and make your own decision. But, get Weiss ratings app is my suggestion.

keepitcasualbrah

Specifically the advice about getting his head straight/not watching news/go to gym/avoid negativity/quit any drugs, smoking, drinking/have good career :) The BTC advice may or may not pan out like you said but if he does all of the above he’ll be good no matter what. Hence, your advice was good :). Cheers and thanks for the comment

GigglesGirth

I've owned BTC since 2016 and still have most of my bag just thought I'd make the joke 🤣🤣

TexasBoyz-713

BTC $100k EoY, this time I’m super **duper** cereal.

r3v3rb_1

On average, 1 BTC costs 100,000,000 sats. This should be the same for everyone.

CrAZiBoUnCeR

Congrats! Got a house last year and getting married next September! I’d also be ecstatic for $250K BTC Dec 2027!

Temporary-Cause730

I'm not buying anything here, I'm all in already, lol. If I had more dry powder I would be buying the coins I listed + BTC/ETH/SOL, but the question was about 4x, and I think these 3 have less potential. 

YoloYield

My avg is 67K 0.37 BTC, is this good enough guys?

Awkward_Product_7428

This is just a big ol' nothing burger, I don't roll out of bed for less than 150k usd BTC.

_Stylite

Obviously shorts have to be properly timed to make money. I was long BTC overnight and crushed today https://i.imgur.com/KLWnlGS.jpeg What I said is still fully true - people make a ton shorting BTC

HSuke

The scarier thing is that buying high, selling low is literally their strategy due to how mNAV works. They are arbitraging against MSTR shareholders. When BTC price is low, mNAV is low, so they sell BTC at low prices to boost Bitcoin-Per-Share. And vice versa. Over time, the bleed out against the US dollar. The biggest losers are MSTR shareholders who fail to time the peaks and bottoms.

NorthComparison4356

began with BTC in Oct25, ATH region, now with DCA over 2026 I got down to 88k avg cost, hardly any powder left, maybe around Xmas some extra fiat become sats. Just looking at the chart now: 87k - quite close to break even -> from there on its happy happy

colemusic1

this is why these “inevitable October dump” spastics need to be banned. Seriously. They’re thinking in a 2017 mindset and cannot get out of it. BTC is institutionalised. 4 year cycles are guidelines. Bitcoin doesn’t magically follow some rule where it must reach X price by this exact month. Anyone saying that shit couldn’t be more clueless. Today’s rally up was not just BTC related: • NASDAQ: +2.75% (insane) • S&P 500: +1.55% (also insane) • SOXX: +4.95% (ridiculously big surge) It’s a sector wide, global risk on day for tech and growth assets. If you want some tangible advice, don’t dca weekly. DCA every 2-3 days in smaller amounts. A lot can happen within just a week with such a volatile asset. You could be buying at a time when the US stock market opens or you could be buying it when it’s closed depending on the day

NorthComparison4356

hate AI so much - people cant walk straight without AI these days - BTC is something so great and AI is something so disgusting....it will kill the internet one day soon, hope BTC survives....

johndoe00213

BTC will hit 1m but not for a while. So prepare

stheodore1974

BTC is the only cryptocurrency that I recommend buying and holding long term

CMDR_BunBun

BTC at 600k for me...

clearedhotaviation

When it hit 62k. I liquidated my entire stock account and bought all BTC. Some say retarded. But damn do I feel good today.

1Rah1

You welcome. I bought 20 bucks of BTC.

foxyevolution

Well the entry isn't $35k anymore due to the market conditions. Problem with mining is if the token pumps, so do miner prices. I rotated all my BTC devices out to Z15 units that mine ZEC.

Icy-Musician213

BTC to hit 1B

Bilatsibagya

I got liquidated ima try again now BTC exhausted

Supaflyray

Explain bags, because unless you got millions worth of BTC. Anyone would buy your “bags” lol. Even having 1 BTC isn’t having a bag lol. You have no need to worry about liquidating any BTC my friend. Or anyone in this subreddit

foxyevolution

Basically crypto miners are the backbone devices for for proof of work chains like BTC and ZEC. You essentially purchase a device, send it to a hosting location if you can't run it yourself (most can't), pay the monthly power cost, and get paid daily. It does take some upfront capital to get involved, but once you ROI you are golden. Especially if you constantly rotate your units from more profitable ones. I threw about $35k into a handful of units and easily earn $80-90k/yr. Does it depend on the value of the coin, yes. I believe in the coins I choose to mine. Especially when they 5x because I held my earnings.

Powerful-Chemist888

He can still be right. BTC hasnt done anything that great

Javeroth

He's not even wrong. He was clear that it was odds based, based on the previous cycles, to be open to counter arguments, to DCA into BTC in the second half of the year. I think he's being nice and appeasing to the angry people. I followed him as well, i was also too late, I don't blame him for it at all.

Ok_Golf_6467

Probably 50% BTC, 25% ETH, 25% SOL if you're actually about to drop 250k on crypto

Pleasant_Maybe_5523

Average cost matters way less if you’re holding long term. Curious though, what price did everyone first get into BTC at?

BigNoseParody

Fair question and I hope people will not bomb me with dislikes because Im against BTC atm. I was on the verge of closing my short because of tech analysis, but then I zoomed out and saw we are still in a geopolitical storm, with now gold also falling. There is also the fact we are very close to next tech analysis that goes in my favor so I decided to stick around. So far I lost about 5%, not much as you can see. Tomorrow will be very decisive for me because all gulf leaders will be in NY.

badasimo

This is more a prediction about USD than it is about BTC

Porcellanidae

10 BTC is a billion satoshi already

Fun-Analysis-182

Yeah, exactly. Bitcoin's base layer never had a bad block. The exploit was entirely in Liquid's own federated software, which got tricked into releasing the real BTC it was custodying.

grabbeschpros

Historically, September has often been one of the weaker months for both U.S. equities and Bitcoin. Personally, I’m not convinced BTC can hold above $80K throughout September. If the historical seasonality repeats, we could see some additional downside before the market finds stronger support.

nature_nate_17

BTC for my crypto (any left over change from my reoccurring, I just dump into HBAR or XRP since they're super cheap) and BTCI for my monthly dividends

WinSubstantial2461

That was the first time I was shaken out. I was risking money I couldn’t afford the risk. Also had a terribly poor understanding of what BTC is at the time

K42st

History shows BTC always punishes those who predict price, always!

fatideuwu

Maybe yeah, maybe not, maybe it isnt BTC pumping but USD dumping...

sonicode

2013 gang here. 1 BTC = 1 BTC. Your numbness and lack of emotion is a superpower. Use it.

Public-Lingonberry-2

I need 400k BTC to retire

blaziken8x

Yep, if you're not too greedy, you profit. Last couple of times BTC went up in price fast, I just sold like 2 weeks into it.

-ROADRUNN3R-

Nah… maybe unpopular comment but I think when BTC hits 116K a huge altseason kicks in. Some kind of supercycle thing

blaziken8x

Personally, I only have like 30-40% of my money in crypto rest is in ETFs and in individual stocks. BTC is always a good pick, the one reason why people like to buy alts, for example, is BTC will probably 2x in value in a few years, but maybe ETH or stellar lumens or doge or some other popular altcoin might 3x at the same timeline.

tenor_tymir

A significant pullback is always possible, but I doubt it will amount to a 50% drop from recent highs, that would simply be too drastic. A retreat to the $70k range is certainly possible, but who knows: the price might just consolidate a bit and then rise again. However, I consider it highly unlikely that BTC will close in the green for 2 or even 3 consecutive months. I expect to see lower prices again, though I would definitely rule out the $40k mark.

olduvai_man

BTC made a higher-high and rallied off the 50wk. No guarantees but its nice to at least receive some hopium signs that the worst of the pain might be over and there's money to be made for bulls in the next few years.

Logical_driver_42

Bitcoin CEO announced he is buying 10,000 shares and the board approved a new helicopter everyone with over .5 BTC is allowed to use. Good times indeed for the company.

Chelseafan88

Only BTC and one BNB shitcoin, Hungarian Vizsla Inu (which I'm expecting to pump hard in October)

_This_Is_Ridiculous

OP probably is holding $100 in BTC hoping to be rich.

tta82

And this “analysis” is based on no actual data right? What would be the market cap of BTC then?

jashanjeet

BTC goes up and suddenly everyone is back with their crazy prediction. Dont piss your pants when it corrects 5% next week

Kommandant_Milkshake

Can you explain how QQQ would expose you to BTC? Genuine question

Status-Tea-1478

BTC to ≈45k now

nature_nate_17

You're beginning to see the shift. Once the vast population realize what BTC represents, everyone is going to make a mad dash to garner any BTC; we're seeing the modern day gold rush before it happens.

Abject-Stretch-1187

Sorry buddy. BTC has a higher chance of close green this year in an alleged bear year. It closed red in a bull year. Reach previous ath before halving. There were already signs it had changed but egos and influencer glazing prevented common sense from prevailing.