BTC

mickeyDisneyMouse

I have a substantial portion of my saving in BTC but I just buy IBIT and FBTC. They custody at coinbase and themselves respectively. There is way less risk compared to trying to be your own bank. I just buy and sell at will on E\*TRADE.

Objective-Walk6780

In the past I would would do 100% cold storage like Blockstream Jade. These days, I buy Bitcoin related stocks like MSTR and IBIT (30%) store some BTC on RobinHood (20%) and cold storage the remaining 50%. Trust me, this is the best way.

Objective-Walk6780

Already sold at 115K. Now buying back in. If you bought BTC above 30K don’t bother HODLing lol

RoscoRoscoMan

It has a name. It's called inventory management. Market makers do it. You reinvented it on your own, which is fine. The problem isn't your loop. The problem is what you're counting in. Every number in your post is dollars. Your average is in dollars. Your profit is in dollars. "Back in the green" means green in dollars. So the machine you built has one job: **turn Bitcoin into dollars.** And it's probably doing that job well. Flip it around. Don't trade Bitcoin to get dollars. Trade dollars to get Bitcoin. Same loop, same mechanics — but the scoreboard changes. Your average isn't $98 anymore. Your position is measured in sats. Your profit is measured in sats. Cash is just the tool you use between coins, not the prize. And here's what that changes: **A trade only counts as a win if you end up holding more Bitcoin than before you started.** That's it. That's the whole test. You sell 0.1 BTC at $100 and buy back 0.11 BTC at $90 — that's a win, you made 0.01 BTC. You sell 0.1 BTC at $100 and buy back 0.1 BTC at $95 and pocket $500 — you made nothing. You had 0.1 BTC before and you have 0.1 BTC now. The screen said green. Your stack didn't move. And if it never dips back and you buy 0.09 BTC at $115? You just lost coins. Doesn't matter that your dollar PnL was positive. You paid tax on that "profit" too. Now, fair warning: **this is much harder than what you're doing.** Trading for dollars, you can win by accident. Bitcoin goes up over time, so almost any sell above your entry prints a green number and feels smart. Trading for Bitcoin, there's no free ride. Every sell is a bet that you'll buy back more coins than you gave up — and the asset is trying to run away from you the whole time. You have to be genuinely right, not just eventually right. Most people can't do it. That's exactly why the scoreboard matters. So run the check. Ten minutes: 1. Go to your first buy. 2. Add up every dollar you've deployed since. 3. How much Bitcoin would that have bought if you'd just bought and held? 4. Now count what you actually hold, plus all your realized cash converted back to Bitcoin at today's price. 5. Subtract fees and tax. Compare. If yours is bigger, post the numbers — I'll shut up and take notes. If it's smaller, then every clever winning trade you made was shrinking your stack, and you couldn't see it because you were measuring with the wrong ruler. **Stop asking "how many dollars did I make." Start asking "do I have more Bitcoin than I did last year.

Mountain-Data-5758

In 2023 i had 10 eth and 0.5 btc, now I have 30 eth and 1.2 BTC, sold in November bought in July

Mountain-Data-5758

Crypto is moving in 4 year cycle on the dot. Looking at these comments it rly looks like ppl adopted the "Buy High Sell Low" mantra perfectly. You do not buy when everyone is happy, you buy when there is "blood in the streets" and sell after seeing the 10th aricle about BTC going to 2x of the current top after already being 3x in a year. Im just amazed at ppl selling crypto now to buy AI stocks, just for them to fall in a couple of months, then ppl will be doing the opposite.

Aeschbacher15

How do they handle transations? If I spend BTC using one of these payment cards, do I have to pay a transation fee on the BTC network in the bacground or not?

Squirll

Unfortunately youre speaking the truth nobody wants to admit. Why did currencies need to be controlled in the first place by any government? Greedy fucks. BTC and the crypto that was developing in its wake had its potential but its a uncontrolled currency so the people with money moved in and gamed the system to have control of it. Truth is the real use of BTC is not one anybody with the ability to move the system wants, its just become another commodity to hoarde.

Additional-Channel21

Your $63,100 example is actually a good one. If my step is 5%, then I’m not interested in a tiny move from $63,100 to $63,200. I’d be looking more like around $66k to sell part, or around $60k to add. If price keeps dropping and I buy again lower, my average cost drops too. That means the next recovery doesn’t need to go as high as before for me to sell part of the position above my average. If BTC goes straight up 2x, HODL can absolutely outperform because I’ll probably have sold some along the way. But in a market that moves in waves, this approach gets more chances to buy lower and sell higher. And on the time/energy part — I did this manually for years. Eventually I automated the rules for myself because I didn’t want every move to become another emotional decision.

JakRenden2

Most of my holdings are in BTC. I only use about 10% of my portfolio for altcoin trading and investing. Best decsision I made since I got into crypto

Illustrious-Option-9

Past is not a sure indicator of future performance. 17 years go BTC was a nerd's toy. Then it continued to grow in popularity as more and more people were drawn into the idea of 'decentralised banking', 'be your own bank', 'fuck JPM'. Then this idea started to disappoint as more and more exchanges introduced KYC. Then crypto bros found another carrot - 'store of value'. This still holds to certain extend, but it's getting eroded year by year as people realize in order for the 'value' to be kept, more fools need to continue buying (and hold) bitcoin. This works, until it no longer works.

PiDigitsOfPi

BTC, and the code of BTC, is much more popular and reviewed than Coldcard. Thousands of times more.

foxyevolution

Sounds like you already answered your question if you ask me. I make the assumption you are not following the narratives and use cases for the various major alts. BTC over time is the more stable and risk adverse option if you want to sleep well at night. The best way to make money in crypto is to keep up with what is happening in the space. Notice I didn't say news. If you are seeing it on YouTube you are already late to the party.

SuspiciousMix31

it's your choice to mix those two systems. You don't have to. You can keep your BTC and use it peer to peer, as it is designed. If that's not enough for you, maybe crypto isn't for you and you probably just wanted to have it because "numbers go brrrt" sometimes.

polymath_uk

WTF? Its exchange rate is 64k USD. Mostly everyone that holds BTC at the moment is holding it purely because it's a store of value. Seriously??

devCheckingIn

All that is true... but it wasn't the current administration that was aggressively "liquidating leverage" every time BTC had a 0.5% pump in 2025.

eToroTeam

If BTC gradually behaves more like a mature asset, some speculative capital probably does move elsewhere. The question is whether that's actually a problem or just part of the asset changing.

Jumpy-Imagination-81

>You can use BTC for stuff too - a store of value. Bitcoin is too volatile to be a store of value. It has fallen more than 60% several times in its history. https://unanswered.io/guide/worst-bitcoin-crashes-history-biggest-drops >The only purpose of money in fact. That's wrong too. Money has traditionally been used as a medium of exchange and unit of account as well as a store of value. Unfortunately, governments have forced people to use fiat currency as a medium of exchange and unit of account.

jb_in_jpn

And how many of those people, legitimately, hold BTC? Anyone you're referring too here is moving drugs or people.

Suprem3NE

That’s literally why I invested. The amount of BTC’s lost forever I feel is drastically underestimated.

xeqtr_inc

"are we still in the early stages of figuring out what BTC can actually be used for?" obviously to make $$$ bro, dont overthink, make money from crypto while you can.

Castlehill650

In sheer irony, all of this craziness makes me feel that BTC is nearing the peak bottom and a perfect opportunity to buy.

Longjumping-Pop7512

My friend BTC mooner! Don't compare BTC to Gold! Gold has stand against test of time. It has seen civilization fall & it's rise.  When everything goes berserk all infrastructure is down. You can get by selling ( bribing gold) to anyone. That was the reason people wear gold jewellery (liquidity on the go) and with time it became status symbol.  So as good as you praise BTC, it ain't gold and never will be. 

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

polymath_uk

You can use BTC for stuff too - a store of value. The only purpose of money in fact.

polymath_uk

This is such a revealing comment. It used to be (and still is for many of us) the case that we earn money, then wish to save it. The current paradigm about money seems instead to be to get paid monthly, then spend all of it that month. Whether this is on cash purchases, or more likely these days, on renting everything or "subscribing" to things. Example: old model: work --> save --> purchase, keep for ever. new model: work --> spend every penny on temporarily acquired stuff. Money sitting in a wallet, whether it's gold, or BTC is NOT WASTING IT. This is the same incorrect argument that was made about the gold standard in the early 1970s. That somehow, wise investment hampers the economy. I think this kind of thinking is why a lot of people feel poor.

Aeschbacher15

Unless there is a way to make BTC holders spend BTC with ease, like using a credit card or paying with their phone, we will be stuck in this limbo phase. As someone who spends crypto a lot, I have maybe used BTC in 5% of my transactions because it is slow and expensive most of the time

sogladatwork

You still don’t have a use case for BTC? Even with millions of transactions happening every day on the lightning network?

CryptoTradersChat

I used to actively trade BTC. I would sell it when it went up 10%.....then I would place a buy order to Buy it back when price had dropped 5%........It was very profitable!

vanillajellaba

Bull run was done 2 years ago, that was the time to get out, now crypto is a slow bleed till 2028 when the next halving cycle occurs. Only buy in an accumulation channel, sell in a distribution channel and block out the noise of what the majority say or do. Also, with that amount of money just go hard on 1-2, not 10 different ones otherwise better off just keep saving you won’t be getting 10x’s on large cap shitcoins. Do yourself a favour and just DCA into BTC and forget the rest they’re all junk

VastWorry829

For beginners, one distinction that clears up a lot of confusion is separating Bitcoin the network from BTC the asset. You can understand how blocks, fees, custody and the supply rules work without having any opinion on tomorrow’s price or after tomorow. Learning those mechanics first makes the investment debates much easier to evaluate afterward.

SuspiciousMix31

The use case is there. You can move BTC from A to B without any third parties. no one can stop you from doing so or change it afterwards. being able to do so is worth a lot in my opinion, given the state of the world.

Illustrious-Option-9

BTC is doomed to a slow death. In 20 years no one will talk about Bitcoin, except in university lectures.

Professional_Elk_489

Punks are still worth $60K floor and the aliens are still worth millions. Pudgies are still worth $7K floor ZEC and XMR have bullish market structure BTC looks ok Rest of the market looks trash

schmiesii

Byers vs sellers vs available supply If there are more buyers than sellers today, the price will likely go up. But if there is a ton of supply and the buys/sells are not that high, the price will probably stay the same. I saw an interesting visualizer website (forgot the name) where the movement of the BTC price is presented as a battlefield. It's probably the easiest way to visualize how price movements work

Icy-Soup-7071

Bitcoin at its bottom is worth as much as tesla... And people still think it will trend to zero. Human beings place more value in Bitcoin than they do JP Morgan chase or Walmart, hell it's worth as much as Samsung. BTC isn't going anywhere. I'm on the side of when it breaks the trend cycle it will be because it's true value is being realised. right now if there was even just a 5% allocation of the global M2 money supply as a reserve hedge BTC would be worth $200k. If Banks started using it as a reserve for fractional reserve banking as a global stable value at 5% - 10% of the value of global assets then is would be worth today $1.5 - $3 million. Add on 40 years of inflation at 5% and you're looking at a 2060 value of $10 million. Add in some game theory. The upside is so great that humans will forever perceive BTC as a high risk high reward asset and so its almost crazy to not even have a little invested in it as a "just in case". Most of the volatility between cycles comes from unregulated high leverage trading, If this were controlled more you would get much less volatility and a much more stable upwards trend that wouldn't have you worried about the eventualities of it breaking its cycle as the cycle would play a much more minor role in its chart pattern. You'd still get some predictable highs and lows but nothing like what we have seen.

Citizen_Kano

I've been BTC-only since last year. Most of my alts were sold at pretty heavy losses, except ETH

crookedVessel

Yeah, most alts from a cycle or two ago never come back to their old highs. ALGO and XLM have been around a long time and neither has done much. If you'd want to own more BTC in five years, the boring move is rotating some of the tail into it and not touching it tbh

Klutzy-Sea-4857

Did it. Alts bleed vs BTC most cycles. Only hold alts if you accept higher risk for higher upside.

Systemonly69

Waiting for my 100L BTC.

gjp23

Just buy BTC

AEON782

Although I agree a certain element is lost with bitcoin being indoctrinated by the suits, I do think it's just part of it's life cycle if it's to be used as a predominant store of value. ETF' & Regulation allow a new wave of capital to be unlocked and act as a structural bid over the next decade we wouldn't of had otherwise... same thing happened with gold. And at the end of the day we are all here to see number go up so need new ways of unlocking demand into the future. But for the most part outsized gains for BTC are behind us, we've lost the cypherpunk libertarian feeling of re calibrating the system. There is a massive gap in the market for a crypto to take share again. I agree it's never been a more exciting time to be in crypto if you can find the right assets. Persist forever Aeon

VeryThicknLong

I addressed your point about BTC being “none of that, it just goes up and down”. The entire stock market over the course of 100s of years has also gone up and down. Check out the fear and greed index. Check out the South Sea Bubble. Check out the .com crash. Check out the AI crash (that will happen in the next two years). Every 17 years there’s a huuuuge stock market crash based off of total market manipulation, euphoria and leverage, and then it takes sometimes 20 years to recover. Saying BTC is a casino is a poor argument. And, not only that, you’ve changed your argument. You said stocks, meaning individual company stocks. Now you’re saying ETFs? Try harder please. I bought BTC in 2020, and have way more than doubled my investment. The cycle of BTC is only a casino to the idiot who doesn’t understand patterns. The same with the stock market.

DirtyVegan99

Sure. Starter out as a total noob with 25 Coins. Spread my ass so thin, a 10x on any of them would not have changed anything lol. BTC only now

DearGodWhyDidntISell

I'll preface by saying I sold 99% of my crypto in 2011 for beer money and food. Was a lot of money at the time for broke me when my 17¢ BTC turned into ~70$ a coin, lived it up. Can't see the future, hard to imagine now but BTC could have faded into oblivion back then. If XRP hasn't gained world changing mass adoption yet don't believe it ever will. That ship sailed. Don't drink that Kool Ade if it goes up it's due to inflation and broader BTC / crypto run. It will eventually go up on a bull run, but could lose years of compounding SP500 gains waiting, your better off in the SP500 or NQ. Even betting on a Fintech, Quantum, or SMR company, etc. Unless your nostradomus, sell it next spike buy some VOO & move on.

92sheran

Yes I converted 90% of my Alts to BTC 2 last 1-2 years, I sleep much better now

Spare-Eye4854

no se si sea posible usarla como colateral para shortear la propia xrp, estarias apostando a que siga callendo entonces aliviaria la perdida masomenos asi como con btc/usdc se usa el usdc como la moneda con la que operas (futuros) se puede invertir para usar el BTC como colateral. no estoy del todo seguro como funciona recuerdo haberlo escuchado de algun trader de youtube pero siempre es bueno que ivestiges por tu cuenta

Zhytaleks

X for breaking news, Reuters for reality, Reddit for the comments, and YouTube when I’m in the mood to be told BTC is going to $1M next Tuesday.

One-Adhesiveness-138

I converted most of my pile to BTC during the last run up. Left around 10% to keep running - most of which was purchased at 20-30 cents

WhaleWilliam

Just curious but how does anyone know you have Bitcoin. I just pretend not to have money. Even if I had a 100 BTC no one would know

olivehue1

So when you send your btc to liquid and withdraw to your hard wallet, it’s in L-BTC right? So then would you send L-BTC from your hard wallet back to Liquid and convert to BTV and send back to your hard wallet as BTC? Is that how it works? Sorry for dumb question, but it’s the first time hearing about Liquid thanks to you. 🙏

The_Law_Dog_IV

Why not sell enough for just 20% down and finance the house like the rest of us? Rates aren't great but they aren't bad either. Sell someore and put in a S&P etf to cover payments and keep 4 or 5 for the potential BTC boom.

Megg187

You don’t owe you just let the bank hold the BTC while you buy it back without the tax implications

MoneyComesWithTime

You sold It at the right time! BTC is going down to 25k soon

Wise_Owl3777

BTC VS XRP... no contest XRP wins over the long haul...... can we look at the xrp token then as it is now defined as a commodity as more of a collatoral build out for institutions so they can utilize the low cost of sending money and as such it will have a rise in value similar to gold

Low_Rip1724

Buy BTC! TAKE LOANS IF YOU HAVE TO

Patrick_Atsushi

I mean dips, Pardon me for my English. This is the XRP/BTC graph. I check all ALTs in this way since I aim for more BTC. The 4 low "valleys" are all on either Oct 1st or Apr 1st, not sure why. One can try to buy near the lows and sell when it hikes / recovers for gain in BTC. That means you outperforms BTC. https://preview.redd.it/i6iwb67r5vjh1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20c06bde2c98454ffcf36bc81a8f5d1089b7c6bb

Nathaniel_Sparky500

\>This foresight and insane ability to convince normal people im right in matters of facts and logic led me to convince most of my friends and family to leverage assets to borrow cash to buy BTC at 104k. \>they are NOT happy right now and liquidity is at an all time low in my friend group and family This is excellent satire. I hope.

SolidSky

Swapped everything for BTC and ETH a while back.

JakobBowser

Why get anything other than BTC? Xrp is a scam, company owns more than 50% of the supply

deleted-_-alt

Just like BTC you can’t predict life, the stacking continues

ikkiyikki

In your portfolio asides from the bit of BTC only ALGO has a compelling case as an all around better crypto.

FalconPunch277

BTC simply it's functionality. What does this mean? BTC is a secure way to transfer money globally and digitally without governments, banks, corporations, or billionaires being able to stop the transactions.

__TrendTrader__

Buy $BTC at $50k in October

Patrick_Atsushi

Check the XRP-BTC chart. If is going to have another valley one can possibly have 200% gain over BTC while BTC still grows. 

MiaTaude589

Honestly, a deadman’s email alone feels too fragile for BTC inheritance. I’d leave the hardware wallet and clear recovery instructions in one secure place, then keep the seed phrase separately with legal access for your wife after death. Also make her do one small recovery test now, because instructions nobody has tested can turn into lost coins fast

logavulin16

LTC is a relic from a philosophy that turned out to be wrong. BTC was initially thought of as a very cheap, P2P cash exchange; something you would use to buy a pizza. All of the alt coins bet on being faster and cheaper. They all lost. The philosophy evolved. BTC still offers P2P freedom, but its philosophy and use have evolved.

never_safe_for_life

A little dense, huh? Makes sense. Look, you bought Litecoin because it was cheaper than Bitcoin. That was your mistake. Just sell your LTC for BTC and escape from the hell of trying to pump your shitcoin one person at a time

kepalautakkau

BTC always turns into a stablecoin every weekend

kepalautakkau

well, looking at how those alts are moving compared to BTC, it feels weird not to swap most of them into BTC

Final_Bite_7228

Just before you die, sell the BTC, put the money in the bank, and write her a cheque.

xPATCHESx

The only reason more people didn't lose their entire accounts in 2008 is because governments stepped in and distorted the market by buying all the failing assets with PUBLIC money. So tax payers still took the hit. Just indirectly. The same thing will happen with the next fiat liquidity crisis - governments will print their way out of it - further diminishing the 'store of value' aspect of fiat currencies and pushing savers again toward hard currencies like BTC that can't be printed out of thin air. But yes, I agree, more needs to be done to help those who self custody crypto to manage their own assets more securely.

Kommandant_Milkshake

To sanity check myself and rethink which side of this I want to be on. It’s good to get opposing opinions on things, but in this case I think the pro BTC argument makes more sense given the current bear market. Also, every point they make against Bitcoin has been endlessly reiterated during BTCs life, and yet none of their points have ever come to fruition.

Kommandant_Milkshake

That, and gloating about how BTC is the same price as the 2021 peak as if it’s not in a bear market rn

Previous_Valuable873

At least you made one wise choice out of the three, XMR has been outperforming BTC for more than a year now, not to mention the other 2 shitcoins.

Ms_TitAdorable

The old cycle pattern may not last forever. As BTC matures, I’d expect slower but steadier growth.

Minute-Lake-1819

Hello. Litecoin was created in 2011 using most of the original bitcoin code but tweaked to improve speed, fees, mining ability. It’s one of the oldest altcoins and it’s historically been used for payments and swaps on exchanges due to its high liquidity. Its history of being digital silver to bitcoins gold is still seen today when you compare on chain data and real world payment stats. LTC is consistently at the top with BTC. But over the years LTC has innovated and now has an opt-in privacy feature called MWEB and is currently adding a programmable layer called LitVM where users can stake, play games, trade, swap, use predictions markets, trade real world assets like pokemon cards, etc. So this post was made today to state that in my opinion, the market has been wrong in its evaluation of LTC. It’s much more important to the ecosystem than most people seem to realize.

DivyLeo

TradeOgre roundtrip some crypto there (usdt or maybe usdc), exchange for BTC, move btc to wallet .. TradeOgre did not have KYC last i checked... However i didn't login in 3+ years... So don't know if they are still online

Dmarine999

There are some inaccuracies in your post. However, an underlying issue has been uncovered. BTC, itself, is trustless, but if you use a HW wallet or exchange, you are trusting those third parties have sound security in place. I'm sure I'll get downvoted like crazy, but I moved my BTC from the wallet secured by my HW device back to CB. I'd rather roll the dice on CB that a HW wallet provider that may or may not have their sh1t together.

r33gna

He sell easy dreams and simple promises, it's why he's where he is right now, the "successful" version of those crypto bro influencers. Turns out the majority today don't want to be rich/be part of tech/etc by reading the BTC white paper, learning about mining, or even just reading Bitcoin Protocol. XD

Minute-Lake-1819

Check out the original post. BTC functions first as a store of value, second as a payment method. LTC historically has been the opposite due to its additional features like MWEB, cheaper fees, quicker block times, etc. They are more of a compliment than direct competition.

Xennenial

Why do you ask? Does BTC have smart contract capability that I'm not aware of?

alien_frontier

Your post 18 days ago: “The answer, 2017. Coinbase was trending and there were only 3 coins to choose from. BTC, ETH, LTC. And I bought LTC first because it was the cheapest full coin option.” You don’t remember your own post because you share your account with other shillers?

JimmySki6166

I swapped ETH & XRP into BTC a few years back. Will only ever hold BTC for crypto! You won’t regret making this move!!

CyanDew

\>phase of adoption yeah, real adoption we’ve got here with everyone still pricing everything in dollars. i’ll keep stacking my sats until it’s used as a worldwide medium of exchange and my grandchildren can enjoy the unit of account that is hyperbitcoinization. but downvote me to hell and call me crazy all you want. Bitcoin has only just begun because there’s only 21M coins and 8B people on the planet. 1 BTC is very undervalued rn compared to a world that needs Bitcoin; and we’re living in one now.

luvscene

The BTC versus LTC utility debate is interesting, especially when people separate payments from store of value, while gamdom sits in a different part of the crypto ecosystem.

NexxiumSpin

Not going to doxx myself to win a reddit conversation, but I can look at Koinly and see the transaction, more then 8, less then 10 BTC. But please tell me about my lying eyes brother.

Aeceus33

Shit is dwindling, most volume from now on is ETFs and whales fucking and gambling with retail reactions. BTC is just another gamblers toy in our world of shiney things.

WildNight00

BTC ETH XMR and SOL I still hold but I don’t look at any of them

VeryThicknLong

Of course people come here to say this in a bear market. The truth is, BTC behaves just like the stock market, but over a shorter cycle. The stock market typically booms and busts every 17 years or something. BTC has the same boom and busts, but condensed into its own cycle.

OpticallyMosache

100% do this You can hold BTC forever and will most likely win

Appearance-Less

What garbage version of the bitcoin power law were you using? ha ha ha. Your version was off. 5 months later the support price is 62k and BTC is 63k. It's at 1%-2% quantile currently. Bitcoin has historically taken 1 year to bottom. Never sooner than about 52 weeks. But at 23 weeks you were saying it's time. Bitcoin did hit 61k in Feb but it was definitely too early to be calling a bottom based on history.

luvscene

$50 can still be a reasonable amount to start with if you accept the risk, and Gamdom is another option I’d keep separate from long term BTC investing.

JimmySki6166

Correct! One must do their own research if they are conscious enough to do it! I research any stock before purchasing. BTC is a no brainer to purchase every week. No other crypto in my eyes is worth buying.

filenotfounderror

No you didn't, when Bitmain launched its first ASIC miner, the Antminer S1, in November 2013, it was priced at 4.75 BTC for the initial batch.

sophie2701

lightning is actually pretty easy to use, most exchanges (Coinbase etc) accept lightning payment, and you can also transact from self custody wallets if you can hold liquid BTC (LBTC) on them. So you can get some LBTC through The Liquid Network (just google it and go on their web), and you can get a LBTC wallet easily through Green Wallet App (from blockstream, they also run the liquid network). If you have your LBTC on green wallet you can simply transact through lightning to any exchange or another lightning wallet (will be recieved in BTC in a matter of seconds and is much cheaper!!!)

Pugluvmeme

If that happens, my BTC will be worth $260... LFG

Minute-Lake-1819

There is literally data from companies like Bitpay, CoinGate, bitrefill and others that consistently show LTC, BTC and usdt as the most used options.

Frog-bitcoiner

Congrats! Imagine having 10 BTC on a Coldcard and now having 0 BTC and 0 house 

quintavious_danilo

I feel safer in BTC than in BRK.B