BTC

CyberCrud

Not on a 4 year BTC cycle.  It's disingenuous.  November 2022 to October 2025 cycle was 635%.  S&P was 81%.  Literally cherry picking.  

jaimewarlock

Are you just trying to solve the tendency of mining to become more centralized? I don't think that is a big worry anymore. Centralization of mining was more of a concern when the biggest worry was a concerted government attack by one or more nation. Even coins that use multiple POW algorithms to spread out mining like Myriadcoin aren't doing that well. You also have GPU only mining like Ravencoin that discourages centralization. They aren't doing that great either (although I think they will survive in the long run ... barely). As for the major coins like BTC, mining facilities have strong incentives to be honest even if they become too centralized. Last, decentralization isn't just about mining on a certain coin. The plethora of crypto coins is a form of decentralization too. Successful attacks on top coins would just result in their hardening and even forking. Like cutting off the head of a hydra, you just get several more.

blakjak42

I don't understand. You were watching the BTC/USD price chart for your candles, right? So how do you feel any relief? You're still on the same board, same candles. You just switched which color you're rooting for. I don't mean that as any kind of dig about your decisions - I'm just pointing out that it's STILL harder than you're saying. It used to be "The only way to win is not to play", but once you're aware of this game, you realize you're already playing.

jenya_

> whose BTC did they send? Those are virtual BTC inside the enchange (exchange says you have some BTC on your exchange's account). They only become real BTC when you send them from the exchange to your wallet.

CyberCrud

Picks the bookends of crypto winters. Calls it underperforming.   Here I'll fix it for you: BTC Nov 2022 bottom to October 2025 ATH: 635%. S&P 500 over that same date range: 81%.  Not even the same ballbark. Learn the cycle. 🙄

CyberCrud

Picks the bookends of crypto winters.  Calls it underperforming.   Here I'll fix it for you: BTC Nov 2022 bottom to October 2025 ATH:  635%. S&P 500 over that same date range:  81%.  Not even the same ballbark.  Learn the cycle.  🙄

friendsandmodels

Same everyone will say: just stick to BTC/ETH and dont touch alts. If you absolutely want to go full degen, i can PM you an alt you can dyor on

OkZucchini5351

ETH would have to pump to $9K to even match BTC's top. It's over 50% down from its 2021 ATH for fucks sake.

AlexWasTakenWasTaken

Hmm.. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but your reply is a good indicator for me to keep stacking my sats. BTC is maturing to become a boring asset and I'm here for it. I agree crypto in general is headed down an unsure path.

baIIern

Nope, I took profits and put everything in stocks which performed a bit better than Bitcoin lately 😅 I'm not even sure if I'll go back into Bitcoin because I don't see a narrative for a new ATH 🤷‍♂️ Maybe if it drops to 30k or so. Even the stock market seems risky. If there's a crash, BTC will dump even more

Unique_Examination24

If you want to diversify with crypto I’ll recommend about 10% of your portfolio into it. It is extremely volatile and we are in a bear market. Right now BTC is at a good discount but no one knows where the bottom is. You should start with DCA until you find a level you feel comfortable with

nickoaverdnac

“Miner fee crisis” is basically a boogeyman. Bitcoin already has a real fee market (it spikes whenever demand spikes), and if mining ever got less profitable, some miners shut off, difficulty drops, and things rebalance — the chain doesn’t just “run out of security.” A 51% attack is even more far-fetched: you’d need an insane amount of ASICs + power to out-hash the whole network, and even then you can’t steal people’s BTC — you can mostly just try double-spends / cause chaos… which would nuke the price and your own profits.

sluglife1987

I bought Tibbir in February for around 20 million market cap and sold between 350 and 250 million marked cap, still got a small moon bag and will likely add to it when I think BTC is bottoming. But yea the alt coin market is horrendous but it was very obvious it was going to be a big bust. There is no innovation happening and no real world use. Compare that to the innovation that’s happening in the real world…. Robotics, AI and medicine the difference is night and day. Iv tried to argue my case many times on Reddit and mostly just get downvoted.

OpticallyMosache

And rebalance every few years. At the peak, BTC became 50%+ of my portfolio. Sold a chunk and brought it down to 25%. Now at these lows, it's headed to 10%.

Trentonhawk

Hopefully we hit bottom and now is a good time to stack your crypto bags, especially in regards to BTC. On Thursday February 5th on Jupiter Exchange (A premier Solana DEX) when the market was really crashing Bitcoin fell to $67,308. I was shorting Solana with Perps and saw it first hand. At around $69,500 right now that's a $2200 swing up from the low. Solana flash crashed to $67.56. I shorted SOL with 75x leverage from $97 down to $70 before I pulled out of the Perp. All I can say is that is the first time I made serious money on crypto crashing. I have to say this about Perps with high leverage, unless you are prepared to stare at charts for hours and possibly be liquidated regardless its not for the faint of heart. Definitely a stressful way to play the game. Let's hope that we rebound from here.

Stalva989

Hey I feel you honestly and totally respect the outlook as well. Financial trading is so interesting to me because You’re 100% right to a large degree yet so is technical analysis… it’s base upon probabilities so not meant to be definite although most people preach their TA that way. In my experience, I find TA to be extremely useful for price prediction but I haven’t for the life of me figured out how to use TA to predict timing so I’ve made many wrong decisions out of impatience. Many people looked at me like I was retarded in October of 2021 when I said I was waiting for 15-20k entry to get back into BTC. The TA ended up being almost dead accurate. Same TA protocol has been telling me 45k for a long time. I personally think it will be a flash when it’s that low, for less than day and maybe even a couple hours only. Anything in 50-60k is an amazing opportunity in my opinion. But truthfully typing it all out makes me rethink it bc I know TA isn’t right every time and the last time it was practically 100% right LOl. It’s due to be incorrect

ComprehensiveSlice42

Are you new to BTC? It can still easily go down in the next week

Ok-Sympathy9768

I capitulated.. but can’t go broke taking a profit.. this was my 3rd BTC cycle.. it was a good run, pissed at myself for not selling at 100k.. bled off well over a million in profit because of deep conviction..never hit my 10 million goal, but I’m not hodling through another winter.. it’s just different this time because money that was initially invested was money that I was ok losing .. today not so much the case .. it was time to take profits and enjoy life…

Atidamaanthony

If BTC hit 30k , how much will other coin be because they move x2 down when BTC drop x1 down

Akugen1

Your mistakes 1. All in 2. Emotion 3. No exit plan BTC will have another scandal in the coming days

Jumpy_Divide_9326

Nice pair....of BTC of course!

albertosvaquero

😂 “Larry” is a legendary name. Real talk: when you feel overexposed, rules are your best friend. One simple way: decide a max % of net worth in BTC, then DCA on schedule only, and keep a “dry powder” bucket for deeper drawdowns. If you want, tell me your rough risk tolerance (low/med/high) and I’ll suggest a simple tranche plan.

nicholasnichols0000

Cardano was never meant to compete with BTC. It is meant to compete with ETH. 😂

Independent-Sell-217

I appreciate the debate and totally respect that we have different outlooks on this. However, I don't believe Technical Analysis is a guarantee. If it were the 'holy grail' people claim it to be, we wouldn't see ten different analysts drawing diametrically opposed conclusions on the exact same chart. The reality is that the vast majority of retail traders using TA fail to make significant gains because they ignore the underlying plumbing of the market. While people are staring at lines and waiting for a $45k-$55k bottom that may never come, the on-chain data shows a massive supply shock in the making. We’ve seen over 50k BTC leave exchanges this week alone. When institutional whales and funds like Binance’s SAFU are aggressively absorbing spot supply, 'support levels' become irrelevant. Fundamentals and liquidity always eat TA for breakfast. I’d rather follow the money leaving the exchanges than wait for a chart pattern to confirm

Sufficient-Chef2678

Nope, sell everything, BTC is cooked

Own-Character395

That sounds believable, but - [BTC v GLD 5y Graph](https://ibb.co/5gnYH0Yw][img]https://i.ibb.co/RkBhwFhd/Screenshot-20260207-101231-Chrome.jpg) If it were people piling into and out of risk assets I would expect gold and Bitcoin to go in the same direction?

Imagination_Drag

How can you literally take BTC seriously when every “use case” that the fanboys cite has been proven wrong? The only “fundamentals” it has is scarcity. Thats it. It’s not even good for criminal activity (dang public ledger) So no real fundamentals. Other speculative assets (gold and silver and stocks) have real fundamentals so atleast a true floor exists.

77sleeper

This, kinda, BTC moonshots are over (I think) short term might 2x but might halve. If you are so tight 200-400 is your limit i would do a roth with spaxx for liquidity or a high yeild savings until you have more consistant/free money. Just an opinion, not advice.

Own-Character395

I've been holding BTC since 2018 and bought most in that cash. Held through the next without buying or selling. Put my first buy in years on Thursday - unfortunately only a little money thinking I would be averaging in over a couple weeks. Maybe I still will be The thing is both those previous crashes had clear reasons. People over reacted, but there was a narrative driving it. This time? No one seems to know

AlexWasTakenWasTaken

Risk is pretty low right now, so my strategy is investing quite a bit more into the market compared to the average. It's hard to put my funds into BTC right now given the knot in my gut but when I think about it, it's better to be investing the dry powder I accumulated during the market highs right now instead of holding onto it.

brianmonarch

Sounds like something a Bitcoin Maxi would say. A lot of people think that there will be a utility bullrun in the future. Something bitcoin does not really have. I’m guessing bitcoin isn’t going away and this is a moot point. But the other coins do not depend on bitcoin. They follow it right now. But if it went away, do you think Ripple would just stop their business? Do you think Solana would just stop? HBAR? They’ve been working on these projects for years.. over a decade. BTC is not necessary for the other coins to survive. I think most people would agree with that. Even people who only care about bitcoin. I don’t know where you got that idea from. Sounds like you’re in a vacuum chamber of bitcoin maximalists.

Megatronsgroin

Ah, the bulls propping the market up again. Love the stories of all the winners out there. LOL. It isn't a win until you leave the casino. And I know of a few who on paper were very wealthy. "were" being the operative word. ll check back in 2028 and see how life is treating you then, my bet is you'll be back into reality when BTC falls to its real value and you're caught out - jack squat.

realnzall

If I did my math right, 1.4 million BTC (it was 695 people who were given BTC, not 650) is not quite 10% of all BTC that's still active on the market (20M mined, but around 4M inaccessible due to lost wallets). But the articles I found all were talking about 620K BTC handed out. So either someone can't do math, or someone was lying.

Ok_Alfalfa_5367

*By the way, I use* [*etf2btc.online*](http://etf2btc.online) *to track my actual BTC basis, might help you too*

ExplanationHead6727

I would say buy gold It’s safer But if she wants to take a chance I would go with BTC for sure

themrgq

It will definitely be option B. Option A GUARANTEES a significant amount of BTC will be hacked and sold

themrgq

Bad take. It will definitely be option B. No miner or node operator in their right mind will say yes principles are more important than exposing 25% of all BTC to be hacked and sold

Brilliant-Expert-455

They sent 620,000 BTC they dont have that

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21M_

I can understand your hesitance... suddenly it is no longer just *your* finances, but now hers. I think you should be clear with her about the possible downsides. Remind her that bear markets can be brutal. Remind her about the risks of keeping BTC on an exchange. Remind her also of the risks of self-custodying BTC (though this is far better than leaving your coins on an exchange). Teach her how store BTC safely and remind her that scammers know no end to what they do. Try to raise her awareness of the risks. Then, at least, she'll hopefully be going into it with her eyes wide open. Most crucially, remind her that the worst one can do in a bear market is to sell. Keeping your BTC in cold storage and the seed phrase and hardware wallet hidden somewhere *very* safe are a good deterrent to "emotional selling".

Ok-Sympathy9768

Nah.. not my first time.. I held through a couple cycles.... lumped sum in at 3k and again at around 16k..NEVER Sold ..until this recent downturn.. kicking myself for not unloading above 100k and Watching well over million in profits dwindle away.. started selling off in the 90s, then 80s, 75, and 69k was my line in the sand.. sold it all off with the exception of some minimal BTC exposure in a ETF ( about 2 whole coins, but it’s NYKNYC).. I am disappointed in myself that I ignored the same cycle pattern and believed in a “super cycle” because I was so focused on my walkaway goal of 10million… oh well, it didn’t happen.. but I took enough profits and it’s time to enjoy life. Good luck to you on your BTC journey

Recent-Singer8146

Years ago, I recall seeing novel ATM’s that used Bitcoin, but when is the last time you heard about or witnessed anyone, in every day common usage (at a supermarket or convenience store, etc.), using Bitcoin to buy a good or service? I would be interested to hear that you can provide any such recent examples. I believe Bitcoin, or cryptocurrencies in general, are interesting from a decentralized currency point of view (in the US, this is a departure from a private banking cartel, the Federal Reserve), such a digital currency provides promising anonymity & security for transactions (a good feature) and potentially freedom from political or government interference/manipulation. However, with such a limited supply, and massive speculative ‘investment’ in Bitcoin (FOMO) this creates a ‘crypto-bubble’ where speculation drives the BTC-USD rate, and any use as a practical & useful currency is negated.

Revolutionary-Rub103

The best way would be to use a decentralied exchange. The order matching and escrow happen via smart contracts off-chain, and the final BTC transfer settles on-chain, without a centralized exchange or custodian...

andys811

Exactly how I feel, either my portfolio goes up or the amount of BTC I can buy goes up

chaitanya1015

BTC is gonna reach your average buying price pretty soon.

DropTheAces

Start with a medium sized amount. Enough to feel the pain but not be life changing if it tanks. If she truly understands BTC she should be prepared for the volatility that comes with it.

albertosvaquero

Long-term I agree BTC has strong odds — but “falling knife” is still about timing + opportunity cost + psychology. You can be right long-term and still get chopped short-term. That’s why I like predefined levels and position sizing.

Stalva989

My friend, I recommend some studying. Most corrections waves form the pattern of a wave meaning there is some up movement and some down. A typical correction wave is know as an ABC correction wave and has a severe drop, followed by a rebound, only to drop again. The A portion has been completed. The B portion of the wave is usually what is known as a “bull trap”. It’s exactly that, a trap for bullish people where the action and money movement looks like things are ready to reverse… and it’s possible you could be in one right now. The accumulation you are observing is professionals looking to ride the B portion of the wave and get out. They essentially take the money of people who fall for the bull trap. Now, you may study BTC and know more than I do and you are right…. but your post does not really give enough reason for why you believe the bottom is in. In fact you come off as a prime candidate to fall for bullish traps and you are relying heavily on hope. If you are seeing accumulation, i would recommend finding maybe 2-3 other indicators that suggest a reversal. Never make moves based off of 1 indication.

Sidivan

You wouldn’t need to. Withdraw BTC, exchange to USD on a different platform, invest that into something safe. Retain a lawyer and refer all correspondence to them with the goal of drawing it out as long as possible. You haven’t committed any crimes. This is a civil issue so they have to sue you to get it back. Meanwhile, the investment is growing. Even if you lose, you pay back in USD what they gave you.

Revolutionary-Rub103

Then I would personally experiment with higher BTC allocations, but that's not advice for you

OppositeGood1150

I'm buying BTC there every Monday and I didn't notice that there would be some spread in the price. Before that, I have setted weekly buys on Binance and I coupd say I was definitely buying more expensive BTC there 😀 cannot say one bad word about Strike...I especially love auto withdrawal to my cold wallet

VitalEss_ence

It’s literally because of the Epstein files. Watch the activity since September 2025. Releases of the Epstein files are tanking the value because Epstein invented BTC

na3than

> If you see blockchain activity whales are clearly accumulating taking BTC outside exchanges. I don't see. Show me the blockchain activity that tells you whales are accumulating BTC outside exchanges.

Interesting_Loss_907

It depends on the amount & your intentions regarding holding or using the BTC you bought. If you haven’t ever made a single transfer to any other wallet, you’re probably not quite ready for a hardware wallet yet. If you bought an amount that for you is a very significant amount (others have used $1K -$2K as an example of a threshold for many), then you should consider buying a HW, but before doing so you need to spend more time learning about recovery seeds & understanding what you’re getting into. Coinbase & Kraken are good options for exchanges (large & well established, US based). Strike is also a good option.

WormHole_15

The recurring BTC purchase couple is BTC/EUR? I don't need to swap EUR in USDT or USDC for the recurring BTC buy? What if I edit the DCA to increase or decrease the amount? Do I pay the first week fees again? Thank you for your help

Brave_Ad616

The thing is, Bitcoin has access to more money then ever. There is no more future ETF news driving up prices. This crash will scare away new investors and make everyone that bought in for the first time at 100k+ rage quit. Another issue is, negative growth over a year, crashing at the moment, and last I checked was around 85% growth over five years, but it has to be lower now. While 85% isn't bad, you can do that in much more legitimate stocks that are also less risky and not quite as volatile. There's no more getting rich quick so why invest in such a risky commodity. Personally, I think BTC is going to be stuck in a rut for a while unless something spectacular happens. Maybe I'll be wrong, but there's no positive news on the horizon, there's nothing of true value backing it, and is really nothing more than a glorified ponzi scheme / slot machine.

Total_Cod_1111

Many people talk about the 200w which has been a past indicator but BTC also consistently retraces to the top of the previous cycle which was arounf 65k. So which pattern will it follow?

Recent-Singer8146

With increasing cost for utilities, such as electricity, are the Bitcoin miners ‘breaking even’ with BTC-USD falling as much as 45% or almost 50% since October 2025? Is Bitcoin actually being used for typical commercial/consumer (day-to-day) transactions or is it simply relegated to be a highly supply constrained speculative digital currency, with no inherent value or actual backing? When buying Bitcoin, who actually benefits? Watching the BTC-USD rise and fall it is clear that speculative ‘investment’ is the main cryptocurrency play.

Affectionate_Knee_96

Yea I’m on the old side of Gen Z and we couldn’t start buying til like 2020. It was definitely millennials that had the knowledge and money to buy BTC.

Loud_Movie_8484

This is exactly why this sub exists - good share. I’m adding this to my framework only to slow myself down, not justify buys. Green days = planning only; if BTC isn’t in a real pullback zone → PASS. Trying to catch a falling knife without rules is just how you lose fingers 😅

Ok-Sympathy9768

Tf??? So BTC is heading down, classic bull trap, but keep on stacking?? …. Sound advice

Legal-Net-4909

Honestly? Mostly opportunity cost. A few lucky pumps aside, most of my alt bags either underperformed BTC or just went nowhere while attention moved on. Nothing catastrophic, but a lot of dead capital. The biggest thing alt HODLing brought me wasn’t profit, it was learning. I learned how narratives fade, how liquidity leaves quietly, and how “strong communities” don’t mean much once incentives dry up.

CyberCrud

I could not agree more.  Follow the cycle.  Make money.  It's really that simple.   There are only 2 kinds of losers: 1.  The ones that buy at ATH because of FOMO and ignorance.  2.  The ones that say, "Is the cycle in the room with us right now?" and think BTC is going to $1M.   Meanwhile, I buy low, sell high, repeat.  

GobiEats

The amount of people using leverage to buy BTC must have been absolutely wrecked by the last year. It sucks to leave money on the table thinking you missed out by not going deeper into an investment. However, when there’s blood in the water you don’t want that blood to be yours. Just buy what you can when you can.

eltuna3636

It really depends on what attributes of BTC interest you, there’s no right answer. If you like BTC because it’s one of the only ways to hold an asset without a third party and you don’t trust tradfi then holding the actual asset makes a lot of sense. If you trust tradfi and like BTC for its other properties (21M cap, fungible, stock to supply ratio, etc) than holding the ETF makes sense. Personally I come from tradfi and don’t have any qualms about holding the asset as an ETF as I trust the systems, I prefer this as it allows me to get a LOT more exposure to BTC through tax advantaged accounts and different tricks you can do even with the MER factored in

Legal-Net-4909

There’s no clean number because addresses ≠ people, and a huge chunk of coins sit on exchanges, custodians, funds, and lost wallets. One entity can control thousands of addresses, and one address can represent millions of users. Most estimates I’ve seen suggest the number of individuals who truly own 1 BTC or more is far lower than people assume. Once you strip out exchanges, ETFs, corporate treasuries, early whales, and lost coins, the pool shrinks fast.

Financial-Housing-45

We go down, this is a classic bull trap. Keep stacking, 1 BTC = 1 BTC

ThePugz

If you bought the exact same monetary amount at around $60K yesterday that you bought around $120K you’d have roughly 3X as much BTC @ a cost basis of around $80K & only be down about 12.5%.

user_name_checks_out

If an exchange mistakenly gave me BTC20K, I would not sell it. I would try to withdraw it, and if I succeeded, I would vanish like a ghost.

No_Artichoke_5670

MSTR has already shown everyone their books. There BTC reserves will cover all their debt unless there's a sustained price drop BELOW $8,000. Unless that happens, Saylor is fine. Most news sites have become nothing but Buzzfeed tabloid ad-hosting sites.

Slow-Food-524

BTC to $25k

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waferselamat

So I read the news, and my question is: whose BTC did they send? That’s 620k BTC that’s a massive amount for an exchange I only just heard about from this post.

chichris

That’s my least worry when I’m picking out where to buy BTC from. River gives you BTC interest on your money stored with them, but I never pay attention to it because it’s small amounts.

No_South_9912

BTC does have the benefit of the most HODL of any crypto, which would prevent it from going to zero.

IndividualRevenue995

My theory is they wanted a political support or tax discount They told politicians to short BTC and then did this mistake. There FRIENDS made a lot of money from it. If u think it's also JOE then it's double dipping.

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Pingon25

Selling my house, jewelry and anything else I can sell to reinvest BTC too! Of course I’ll be waiting for that next correction to ~$40k around Sept/Oct 2026. My math tells me BTC will bottom around $32k - $35k. Anything under $40k is a STEAL.

Cute_Hospital1501

bought a total of 0.5BTC in the last week , highest buy was at 79k, lowest was like 62k. if it goes lower i'll buy more

Agile_Cranberry_6518

Only BTC?

Horror-Badger9314

I just bought BTC

Hot_Philosopher3199

Yes, in September. 2 tranches. 114 and 124. I'm about to roll back in for about 34% more BTC.

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No-Roof4405

I’m always telling people this who say they “cant afford it”, you don’t have to buy a whole BTC. They just seem confused by this so I give up.

CarobBrave8898

You can't tell what a child will do in the next hour by observing it for one minute like you cant predict what BTC will do in the next hour by looking at the current chart. You can confidently say though that if a child is healthy it will fall, it will cry, it will get hungry, eager, happy again etc and the cycle will continue. So if someone believes btc is "healthy" in regards to its purpose he can expect that it will have ups and downs untill at some point it will die like all things in life. But since it's healthy at the moment it's reasonable to expect it will continue to grow

Substantial_Ad_2116

I never held alts long term. Now I don't hold them at all. BTC only.

basketbun

86-84-77-??? We are looking like we are at the end, and what did we hit? 60%? .what I mean is, the older BTC gets the less drastic the movements are, we see it on the upside and the downside

JMeucci

This. Not only did they distribute that BTC into my account, they had the privilege of removing it without my authorization as well. It was their BTC, and I knew it was a mistake, so I didn't press the fact that they had full access to my account.

ArmedWithBars

The Sp500 has been the most safe, consistent value for your money for decades. The system is built on YoY growth and if the largest 500 companies shit the bed long term then you have signifigantly more to worry about than your money in the sp500. The Sp500 imploding means the economy has crashed through the floor and any non-tangible investment would be practically worthless. 60%+ of the US is service jobs and we don't have manufacturing to fall back onto for recovery. USD would collapse and cease to be the global reserve currency. We'd see unemployment levels that make the great depression look tame. You'd be busy trying to secure food and supplies with mass civil unrest spilling over large swaths of the country, shit like your BTC gains/losses would mean nothing. If you believe that sp500 will crash and burn you shouldn't be buying crypto, you should be buying rural land far away grin metropolitan areas.

Lumpy-Bicycle-3634

M15 directional bias with market structure shifter bullish after BTC tapped on monthly Bullish OB

Frapa2a

"Taking BTC outside blockchain" 💪👍🤣

Para-out

The most powerful new usecase of crypto is money, not decentralized computation (few and rare true applications.) Even if you like decentralized computation, even though nobody really uses it for anything that they cant do much cheaper in a semi-decentralized form, at least one should recognise that the number 1 usecase of crypto is money. so... BTC is near perfect but lacks privacy. So this rotation is going to be fully and first slowly into privacy. Privacy matters too much with money. Cash is also private, and BTC is getting walled in by governments.

neotekka

Cool. I bought some at $69k and now waiting for $50k for the next purchase. Q for all the BTC experts on here - how low is the bottom this cycle?

FrancescasGrove

It wasn’t 2,000 BTC each — it was all together for the hundreds of winners 2,000 each would be ridiculous

PresentationAway9871

Wrong logic - when BTC is sold is at the same time bought - it not dolars or stock which can be printed or diluted. To BTC go down would have to mean that noone want to buy so no BTC will be sold.

Rory_1354

Haha mate if BTC doesn't survive then no other coin will

IceSaber

Anybody who understands a few key facts will be selling now if they haven't already. 1. Time from halving to the top was consistent with the previous cycles and has happened in October already. 2. We're now outside of that timeframe meaning were likely to be going down and in a bearmarket 3. Were below the 200ema and have retested it and dropped further which is consistent with the previous bear markets 4. Were below the previous all time high which is also consistent with the previous bear market (BTC dropped to 14k if you recall, while the previous high was 19k. The only chance we have of a real climb now is if the cycles are dead but everything above tells you they're not. CME gaps do not work in crypto bear markets from top to bottom, especially when the gap is above the current price. Selling pressure is far too high.

Y0l0BallsDeep

How do you know that BTC will be OK? Can you time travel?

vrui

If you really want to position for dips, I’d structure it instead of just increasing BTC allocation. For example, you could remove small caps completely or trim 5% from emerging markets and keep that portion in USDT. Then, if BTC drops another 20-30%, you use that USDT to buy more. If it doesn’t drop further, you just hold it and wait. That way you’re not increasing overall portfolio risk right now, and your portfolio actually stabilizes a bit during heavy swings. You’re creating flexibility without stacking more volatility on top of an already aggressive setup.

Cryptizard

How is that unfair? You could use the same argument to say that mining is unfair. The people who have the best mining technology get an unfair opportunity to mine new coins. I think having a huge pile of BTC as a bounty for quantum computing development is a win/win scenario.