BTC

dj_destroyer

He's become the BTC digital bank

dj_destroyer

Have you never heard him speak? For the last 5-10 years, he's made it quite clear there's no point in selling BTC for something else. He believes Bitcoin is the apex property, better than property or gold or stocks or anything. He makes very rational and articulate arguments as to why. Could that change? Sure, but a lot of things could happen. No sense in declaring all the what ifs... what if the world got hit by an asteroid, what if we all nuke ourselves, what if the USD collapses tomorrow and brings the stock market with it, etc. etc. etc.

Azatis-

Will be worth as much as he wants since he will be able to manipulate the whole crypto market at will with just few BTC either buy or sell

sp00geMcDuck

The rich will stay rich amd you will support their endeavors through higher power bills because BTC is so power hungry

ChuCHuPALX

What's the BTC address we can toss some gas into for your kids?

ieatballoonknot

Your definition of dilution is a made up, fake metric of BTC per share. Have a nice day.

__redruM

Yes, and I don’t doubt BTC will be back at 120k at some point before 2030. It’s just that BTC isn’t the hedge it was sold as. In these times of uncertainty, BTC should be well up. But it’s acting more like a tech stock than digital gold.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

BTC mass adoption already started with the ETFs. Fastest growing ETF ever, just sayin.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

BTC always comes back to test the old ATH. So all these "Its at the same price as 5 years ago" posts dont hold any weight. If you like crypto and want to invest for long term then now is not the time to leave, its the right time to accumulate. Between now and Q4.

Azatis-

About what mini winter he is talking about ? All alts are in winter over a year now despite BTC doing okish or not.

Impossible-Weight852

This is solely based on the belief that the future returns of BTC will be greater than the borrowing costs. Most are projecting past performance into the future which is a grave mistake as those who are paying attention will realize the returns have been declining steadily over time. Safest option is to sell whatever you need to cover your cash needs.

Decentralization-God

I thought he does not care much about buy price as he is buying at every price level … and wants BTC price go up … to attract greater fools lol 🤣

ieatballoonknot

lol my guy you own a smaller % of the company every time they sell shares and theyre increasing their debt. Have fun with that “BTC per share” metric used to scam retail.

Blueberry_Dependent

Man, why people think the money in the bank are yours. Those money belong to the bank. I don't know how people don't understand that. Maybe that's why people think BTC is a scam and if they knew that they don't own their money then they would have at least put 20% of their savings in BTC

DankMemesNQuickNuts

More people and most importantly more financial institutions are involved in this trade for purely speculative reasons and the thing people speculate most on in Crypto is BTC Its not about the product, it has everything to do with adoption and financial speculation. These are speculative assests and nothing more, the quality of the project is irrelevant when people aren't concerned with what the product does

ferocious_swain

Huh? Countries and states and Investment firms are centralizing BTC more every day. The fact that coin does absolutely nothing means it could be bought and forgetten about all other L1 have utility. Also btc is not scarce at all. I have never had a problem finding it?

GoodIntroduction6344

You're an idiot. In economics, when we talk about ceilings and floors, we're talking about a command economy where prices commanded or set. BTC is traded on the open market. There is no ceiling or floor. It's simply \*price driven by the flux of supply vs. demand. There are no ceilings. It can go to the moon. There are no floors. It can crash to zero. The cost of producing BTC is not an economic floor. Price of BTC isn't determined by cost of production for an extremely elastic product. BTC is valuable if and only if investors deem it valuable. The cost of mining BTC is the cost of mining BTC. That's it. At any given time, in any given place, there either exists an acceptable ROI or breakeven point, or not. It's either worth it or not. If it makes a profit, they keep mining. If it doesn't, they stop. In early 2026, it cost miners $1,320 in electricity costs to mine one BTC in Iran. Mine or not? Mine. Meanwhile, it cost miners $306,550 to mine one BTC in Italy, $227,000 in Austria, and $236,000 in Switzerland. Mine or not? Not. The graph you have is charting long term support levels. It does not represent average BTC mining costs. You need to stfu and focus on flipping burgers, fucktard.

jclaslie

Looks like Bitmex is bullish BTC and AI agents through Circle but the war situation is making macro worse so I really have no clue where we could go next. That’s why I just DCA and chill.

-Squidster-

If you look over on r/CryptoCollectibles - there are a lot of examples of BTC attached to items, even some art pieces. However most hold the private key on the item, so you can access the SATs eventually if you want to. Iirc, there was a project that has a similar concept, except when you bought their item, they would actually sent the SATs to Satoshi’s wallet.

shelby_xx88xx

Or exchange failure Lost a big chunk of BTC with a loan on Celsius…🤮🤮🤮🤮

Ok_Golf_6467

Yep. I've been stacking ETH since 2022 when I should of just been stacking BTC. Lesson learned.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

"More or less". March 2021 BTC was at 61k, now its at 68k.

the_superbatman

I've pondered over this for a while. The answer is simple, it's simplicity. Price maturity is driven by mass adoption, adoption here is institutional investors. No institutional investors go through the lengthy study of understanding ETH, complex compared to BTC, therefore money goes to BTC. Also BTC valuation is much easier,in theory, as gold than a decentralised smart chain leading blockchain.

CuriousGeorge22_02

I agree. RSI looking like it is bottoming out and a lot of other indicators show a very good RR right now. I'm scaling in slowly. It's never a bad time to buy BTC anyway

Azatis-

Ok fair enough. But why do you think Saylor stacking BTC for ?

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

If BTC is digital gold, then ETH is digital silver. BTC is scarce, ETH isnt. There is no supply cap on ETH, it has dynamic supply. So you see there are fundamental differences between BTC and ETH. BTC has cemented itself in the financial world already while ETH still needs to proof that it can be the backbone of Web3. BTC is a safer bet with smaller potantial gains, while ETH is riskier with more upside potential. Last cycle it underperformed severely (ETH) and it still needs to proof a lot. At the end it comes down to your risk appetite and if you buy into ETHs bullcase (Backbone of Web3). If you want a safe bet I would suggest BTC, if you got more risk appetite I would suggest ETH.

-Ophidian-

Right, I'm trying to predict the future a bit here which may be a loser's game. But if the only thing holding BTC higher than ETH is "I was first" and having higher backing rates, once BTC finally gets fuller adoption/confidence and institutions are more comfortable with crypto in general, won't ETH just step on BTC's head to claim first place?

-Ophidian-

BTC has had better price improvement over that time period than ETH, but BTC is the poster child. I guess what I'm saying is the main thing holding back large scale ETH adoption is large scale BTC adoption. But when large scale BTC adoption occurs, institutions are going to look at ETH and see that it just does what BTC does but better. Won't BTC then get somewhat left by the side of the road?

Pathbauer1987

BTC doesn't hold value. It is priced. And it will be that way until it gets real life use. Until then, it's price will depend on the mood of speculators.

HSuke

> $70,946 per BTC BTC price peaked at $69.3k this weekend. The price wasn't this high since last Wednesday. How is Saylor getting such bad prices?

Local-Builder-4698

Because Bitcoin has cap of 21mln. Bitcoin doesn't have owner and it is the most important thing in this whole discussion. You don't know the future of Ethereum, maybe vitalik will change it, maybe he won't, while bitcoin is always Bitcoin. I personally go 80% BTC 10% Ethereum 10% Solana. I like the idea of Ethereum but is it the best risk to reward investment? I highly doubt it

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

BTC is more or less at same price too, so I wouldnt count this as a particular convincing argument.

AidenTai

Bitcoin has the most trust, backing and confidence. That probably matters the most when it comes to a currency (the same reason why gold is used as a currency and not some other equally rare metal or metal with superior chemical properties). Monero is the best as a currency for payments that respect privacy. That leaves Ethereum with the 'rest', which is other tokens, smart contracts, etc. That matters more when the flexibility of the technology matters, but right now the volume of transactions isn't enough to push it beyond the growth rate of BTC and XMR. In the future? Who knows. But right now people value trust and anonymity more than anything else (not at the same time, some value trust and growth, others value privacy, so each has its own clientelle).

watch-nerd

They work better as a pair. BTC has more liquidity, but ETH has more volatility, so levered ETH works better as a hedge to BTC than BTC itself. And ETH has staking, so you can go delta neutral on it if you want and still earn real (not nominal) yield.

Forsaken-Welcome-709

The statement "should I borrow $ to buy Bitcoin" is missing details that can be used to make an informed decision. Should I borrow $ at 0% rate for 10 years to buy Bitcoin with a minimum payment that is well below what I could afford? -- probably yes honestly. Most people think credit cards with massive interest. They think minimum payments that are hard to keep up with. Or maybe they think loans that have a 1 year term and you don't have the cash to pay it off, so you're going to sell the BTC to settle it and you hope it is a higher value in the future. Loans are not black and white, and for most cases, loans are bad. But if the terms are favourable, it can give you a benefit. A lot of people will mention how the loan APR (cost) is lower than the CAGR (appreciation) and on top of that, the providers allow you to roll over easily. The big questions are: 1. Is the BTC safe in their custody? (many will say no) 2. Is the company going to last as long as you want to keep rolling over for this to all be worth it in the end? So I get it, it is not a black and white, yes or no, and for those who are not risk takers, the answer is plain no. And for giving advice, the answer is no. No one wants to give advice to take risks. But for some, they don't rate the risks as high as you, and they see the benefits more clearly too.

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0xZennite

BTC resilience at these levels makes sense when you factor in the ETF inflows acting as a structural bid that didn't exist in previous cycles. The real question is whether oil-driven inflation fears push the Fed to delay cuts further — that's probably the biggest near-term risk for crypto. Equity correlation has been loosening lately which is a healthy sign for the space overall.

iWearSkinyTies

How about: If BTC < ~20% ATH, then buy at DCA. Else do not buy, instead accumulate capital until next slip.

Decentralization-God

So he bought 18k BTC and price barely moved … This is quite telling …

cashflashmil

If you’re starting from zero, the biggest mistake is jumping straight into trading. Most beginners lose money because they try to trade before they understand how the market actually works. Start with the basics first. Learn what Bitcoin is, how wallets work, how exchanges operate, and why crypto markets move. A lot of price action is driven by narratives, macro liquidity and market cycles, not just indicators. If I were starting today, I’d do it like this:  1. Learn Bitcoin first Understand why it exists and how the network works. Everything else in crypto tends to follow BTC.  2. Watch the market before trading Spend time just observing. Watch how BTC reacts to news, macro events, ETF flows and liquidity. After a while you start recognizing patterns.  3. Invest small while learning You don’t need a lot of money to start. Even small amounts help you understand the psychology of the market.  4. Avoid leverage at the beginning Most beginners blow up their account using leverage. Also try to filter the noise. Crypto is full of hype and recycled takes. It helps to follow a few sources that actually explain what’s moving the market. One habit that helped me a lot was reading short daily market summaries instead of endlessly scrolling crypto takes on X or random YouTube predictions. I personally read a daily brief called WebSnack. It’s a quick overview of what actually moved the market that day - Bitcoin, macro signals and the main narratives in crypto. It makes it much easier to follow the market without getting lost in all the noise.

Forsaken-Welcome-709

The goal is NOT to make money ( fiat cash garbage ;) ). Many of us go through a "what even is Bitcoin" phase, and it forces us to ask and answer hard questions about "what even is money". Once you get through that, you change your frame of reference. Cash is not money, Bitcoin is money. Cash is just what everyone out there wants to use as money. And wall street is willing to even lend this cash thing to us so we can use that instead of buying this cash thing. What's the benefit of that? Well asset appreciation. But it isn't appreciation to us, its just stepping away from the massive constant debasement of what everyone else is calling money. So sure, you will give me a loan so I can use this "cash", and then ask for the money back later on after it has been debased to hell? What a deal, what a steal! The trick of course is that there are many variables to consider. APR, time, liquidation levels, and Bitcoin's perceived and traded volatility in the market. These things, that the finance industry uses as the basis of their rules when lending to you, affect your ability to safely borrow. So we have to over compensate. This is why it isn't the right thing for EVERYONE to do, but for many it is beneficial. The TLDR; is that if the CAGR (compound annual growth rate) of Bitcoin is higher than the APR of the loan, then by the time you have to pay off the loan, you end up selling less of your bitcoin for the amount that you borrowed. But even better, you can borrow more and roll over the loan. Well now we are starting to see the benefits of that "compound" word. The loan compounds, but the CAGR does too, and since it is higher than the APR, it compounds faster than the APR. Then there's the volatility of Bitcoin: CAGR is a smooth straight line, Bitcoin doesn't trade like that, so there needs to be a lot of precautions taken. People recommend keeping below 15% LTV (loan to value) when you take out your loan(s) at all times. This way it should theoretically survive any bear market, even if Bitcoin crashed 80%, you wouldn't be forced to liquidate and settle the loan, so you can continue to let TIME do its thing. Over time, you debt grows into tens, hundreds of thousands, or a million or more, but.... percentage wise, it goes down. Your LTV goes from 15% to 10% to 5% to 1%. That means when you finally decide to pack it up, you sell 0.01 BTC instead of 0.15 BTC. The other important reason is that governments demand CAPITAL GAINS TAXES. If you sell your bitcoin now, you pay the market value, and you pay high taxes on top of that. If you do it after you retire, you pay less taxes potentially because you don't earn a salary anymore, plus the value grew higher, so Bitcoin right now is for many, a savings play, not a make a quick buck play. In the future, if the climate changes and governments decide that Bitcoin is money and that it shouldn't be subject to capital gains taxes, then even better! Time is on our side, even if CGT goes up, it is very likely that the value of the asset appreciated enough that we still made out the winner. CGT applies whether you buy paper money, or buy a house or buy a wedding, whatever. Anyway, all the while, you just keep stacking and keeping money to yourself until everyone else catches up and starts to ask for your bitcoin money instead of the toilet paper. Now, even with all that I have said, playing with loans is still dangerous, still feels like gambling, and so people like myself just stack and/or hodl, and don't over invest so that we can live off our salaries and keep that bitcoin for emergencies or retirement, or for some big expense that we were saving for... like a wedding, or a house or something we need in the future that we otherwise couldn't have afforded. I think of those who take loans, half of them will do magnitudes better than us, and half of them will get rekt because it takes much more discipline to manage loans like this without getting into trouble and undoing all your hard work in a moment.

Kozlodoj

Reading this thread, it’s clear why the "going to zero" narrative keeps popping up: people are trying to force a speculative asset to act like stable fiat. As someone who relies purely on data and algorithmic models to trade, I can tell you that BTC’s volatility is a feature, not a bug. But it’s a feature that will liquidate you if you don't have a strict risk framework. Whether it goes to 1 million or drops to 50k again doesn't matter if you have a system that cuts losses at 2% and lets the data dictate the entries. Take the emotion out of it. (I share the exact risk-management blueprints and setups my hub uses on my profile for anyone tired of the rollercoaster). Protect your capital first.

EarningsPal

Privacy is coming in soon. There are whole smart contract blockchains that can do private defi and move tokens privately soon. And those pipes are definitely working on providing pathways to privately bridge BTC value onto those blockchains. Once BTC pathways to private blockchains exist, people can enter and exit BTC privately.

avz008

Develop understanding about blockchain: Understand what blockchain is, what Bitcoin solves, and what a wallet is. Coingecko's Learn articles and research reports are a good starting point for beginners. Observe the markets: Set up your watchlist on coingecko and watch how the market moves. Learn what market cap means vs price. Understand why a $0.001 coin isn't "cheap" and a $90K Bitcoin isn't ""expensive."" This phase will save you from the most common beginner mistakes. Start small: Buy a small amount of BTC or ETH on a reputable exchange (Coinbase, Kraken, Binance). Learn how to transfer it to a self-custody wallet. This is where the real learning happens. Build the habit: Follow reputable crypto accounts on X to get your daily crypto news. Check prices daily and see what's happening in the market. Over time you'll naturally start understanding trends, narratives, and which information sources are trustworthy vs which are noise. Never invest more than you can afford to lose, and ignore anyone who guarantees returns.

iwakan

You are overthinking this. It doesn't matter how many layers to the investments streams, how many reserves you buffer funds in, or even whether their funds are in BTC or USD. Strategy has only two cash flows. Investor money in. Investor money out. Take from that what you will. You'll notice I haven't even outright called them a ponzi yet, I've just pointed out the facts, and yet you all get so defensive.

marvel2406

Used it briefly to move some BTC. Verification took a little time but after that everything worked perfectly fine.

ImpressiveRelief37

This would work for a business. 99% of people that endorse the bitcoin loaning thing have no idea, never done it, don’t even have enough BTC for a meaningful loan, and certainly don’t have a business. Basically just a bunch of people LARPing 

MotleyMoney

The halving. He's right. Mathematically, there's very little chance they lose. BTC will continue to rise at the end of each cycle.

kafkaisgoodinreels

My experience was okay. Trading BTC was simple but the interface feels kinda basic compared to bigger exchanges.

Sufficient-Oil2452

Tried UEX US a while back for BTC deposits and withdrawals. Everything worked normally. Only thing was the network fee felt a bit high.

Charmin76

People forget about the derivatives market. So many contracts for BTC everyday. They must be leveraging their stash and making a killing.

ecrane2018

A Ponzi scheme has no way of covering the investors they are a fake company selling shares and using new investments to cover old obligations. Strategy uses BTC reserves to issue bonds to those that can’t directly invest in bitcoin and has various other investment levels outside of basic shares. They have no obligation to base share holders the value of that stock is tied to the ratio of btc to shares which fluctuates as shares are dispersed. New capital when acquired is openly stated to be used to cover debt obligations so they don’t have to sell btc. It’s like when AMC was diluting their stock to pay debt it’s not a Ponzi scheme.

Suitable-Cucumber523

I'm in a similar boat where there's almost no one I can really tell about my BTC stack or accomplishments other than very close family. Even posting it online in any sort of account linked to yourself in any way is unwise. I guess money has always been that way, in that your investments, cash on hand, assets you own, asset values are all extremely personal and only you should really know about them. Even a wife knowing about them will likely come back to haunt you one day as she eyes her exit plan on half of all your assets.

Blazewallet

One thing I’d add: a lot of people focus on what they hold, but not how they hold it. If the thesis is “accumulate and survive the cycle,” custody starts to matter more. Every bear market you see the same pattern, people rotate into BTC/ETH and gradually move more of it off exchanges. Not saying everyone needs a full hardware-only setup, but having a wallet where you actually control your coins removes one more risk from the equation. That’s actually the problem we’re trying to solve with [BlazeWallet.io](http://BlazeWallet.io), making self-custody simple enough that people actually use it instead of leaving everything on exchanges.

iwakan

>not pay out existing shareholders They have liabilities. They have nearly 10 billion in USD that needs to be paid over the next 5-ish years. Which means they need to raise 10 billion USD to pay that to existing investors. Regardless of whether they gamble more on BTC in the meantime. And they have no revenue, so they need to raise money from new investors to do that. Or, of course, sell BTC. But the moment they do that it's game over anyway, the market will implode.

FancyGlory2124

Happy 20M BTC to everyone celebrating!

EarningsPal

They can physically lock up BTC in defi type contracts and borrow again using it as collateral.

kwijibokwijibo

That's not at all what they're doing though. They're using investor money to buy BTC, not pay out existing shareholders It's risky as fuck. But it's not a Ponzi

friggleriggle

Yeah who knows what'll happen in that case, but BTC being up today is surprising to me. It was up overnight when oil was hitting 115 per barrel.

0xZennite

Glad it helped! If you do end up trying Pionex, start with their spot grid bot on a pair that's been ranging — something like BTC/USDT in a defined channel. Way less risky than jumping straight into leveraged stuff. How far along are you with trading in general?

KateR_H0l1day

Tradfi pulling out due to Iran and Oil prices, they’re pulling out of gold too, mostly going to the currency piggy bank, but a little is trickling Crypto’s way. Plus, it’s Monday so Strategy bought a bunch of BTC again, which I think never hurts the market, but I expect it to rotate back to mid ~$60K by mid week.

sean_hash

738K BTC is like 3.5% of total supply and their cost basis is still under 76K, gap to spot just keeps getting wider

Realistic_Fee_00001

>In the last 30 days: 50% of nano transactions were confirmed within 350ms. BCH is about 10 minutes according to my google search Well that's wrong like many things that people just take from crippled BTC and slap onto the working BCH. BCH continued and improved 0-conf. A payment tx is basically as fast as it takes to propagate through the network. >BCH is one of the smaller ones; I'd rather have my network not get 51% attacked, especially when championing its "security" It is not, BCH has one of the biggest hashrate and cost of attack. BCH is much more secure than nano. BCH also has been attacked already and defended itself just fine.

UKcoin2

When the next halving hits us Strategy will own more BTC than is left to be mined.

Miserable_Twist1

AI slop. “It’s not X, it’s Y” classic AI phrase. Weird salesman type tone. No sources. Unverifiable claims and are completely made up “one metric has quietly acted as Bitcoin’s most reliable safety net” Claim is also factual incorrect, cost of mining is determined by the btc price, not the other way around, because the cost to mine automatically adjusts every two weeks. If mining costs more than the BTC is worth, mining operations will pause, causing the difficulty to adjust down.

SnooMachines7409

OP is confused between cause and effect. Miners don't dictate price. Mining hashrate follows price. If BTC price is lower, miners that are losing will exit until mining prices come down wherever the support exists.

GIGAbtcHodl

For us it's always a good time to invest in Bitcoin. If we have a situation where cash is sitting and is not reinvested back to core business - we buy BTC

Efficient_Culture569

If if if. That's not answering OPs question of Why people say to borrow against BTC instead of selling. 

bitusher

**Statistically Lump Sum investing will outperform DCA investing.** DCA is usually the best advice for those that don't have the capital upfront. For investing in any assets = realty, stocks, bitcoin, or gold the best advice is to make a solid plan after doing your research up front, diversify with uncorrelated asset classes that are properly hedged and invest all up front. This is especially true with Bitcoin because no one can predict the price and most appreciation happens on a few days each year that are unexpected so the quicker you own BTC , the quicker you get exposure to this appreciation. This being said you should not be investing at all in Bitcoin unless you have paid off all your high interest debt and have at least 3-6 months of fiat in an emergency fund to cover living expenses. Lump sum investing outperformed DCA investing 68% of the time according to a Vanguard study - https://static.twentyoverten.com/5980d16bbfb1c93238ad9c24/rJpQmY8o7/Dollar-Cost-Averaging-Just-Means-Taking-Risk-Later-Vanguard.pdf and 75% of the time according to this study: https://www.northwesternmutual.com/life-and-money/is-dollar-cost-averaging-better-than-lump-sum-investing/ 2 reasons - 1) stocks (I suggest an index funds like SPDR/SPY or QQQ ) and BTC have an inherent upwards bias so the sooner you invest the quicker you can accumulate appreciation 2) Inflation drag - fiat uninvested will be slowly losing value due to inflation In bitcoin its higher than 75% of the time and if you doubt me go ahead and pick 10 random dates in the last 15 years and test it for yourself

Efficient_Culture569

Very true. Just explained why people do/say it. I haven't borrowed against it because its hard to trust and move my BTC away. 

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bankrollbystander

people suggest borrowing against Bitcoin mainly to avoid selling the asset while still accessing cash. if you sell, you usually trigger capital gains taxes and lose exposure to future price increases. by using lending platforms like Ledn or Unchained Capital, you can keep your BTC while taking a loan against it. the trade off is interest and liquidation risk if the price drops too much.

Ourcrypto_news

Traders on Polymarket really putting their money on a BTC drop to $45K. Definitely a bold bet considering where it’s trading now

Ourcrypto_news

BTC holding near $67K while global stocks tank is wild. Feels like crypto is becoming its own thing separate from traditional markets.

mustafa_khalifa

And if it does not hold this resistance? Does it mean that BTC is done?

__redruM

> Im preety new Crypto is high risk investing for people that aren’t “preety new”, get your feet wet with something safer. Or if you must start with BTC on coinbase.

Hungry-Let-3012

Can’t tell if you’re being serious by stating there is growth in BTC use cases. Why do they need use cases if the store of value proposition were actuate? Talk about a project with an identity crisis. First it was peer to peer payments. But people realized the network was slow and expensive AF. No we’re on to developing new use cases? Hah.

investingtruth

If you're new to crypto and looking for stable investments, you're in the wrong asset class, because even the big boys swing 30-50% regularly and alts like Solana can move twice that in either direction. The honest framework here is that $15k in any crypto outside of Bitcoin or Ethereum is a high-risk bet on adoption and execution, not a stable investment, so only put in what you can afford to lose entirely. If you're set on Solana, size it appropriately and keep the rest in BTC/ETH, because diversifying within crypto by going deeper into alts does not reduce risk, it amplifies it.

Captaincdj

You can't if you don't try... Yes, you are STILL early to BTC. It's going HIGHER over time.

104MAS

Horrible strategy. Just buy less BTC if you’re not confident.

th_linux1107

What is this "spare cash" you speak of? Personally, I'd go 50% BTC and the rest in an index fund that pays out dividends.

BuyTheDip_Repeat

BTC and sleep well

JG87919

So your not giving up your BTC when it has a chance of becoming more valuable. But what I’d like to know is what the interest rate is borrowing against an asset like that. And who allows you to borrow against crypto.

u_spawnTrapd

A lot of it comes down to people wanting to keep their BTC exposure. If they sell, they’re out of the position and might miss a big move later. Borrowing lets them get some cash while still holding the asset. The other thing people mention a lot is taxes. In some places selling can trigger a taxable event, while borrowing usually doesn’t. Of course the risk is that if BTC drops too much you can get liquidated, so it’s definitely not a free lunch.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Strategy Inc. has acquired an additional 17,994 Bitcoin for $1.28 billion at an average price of $70,946 per BTC, bringing its total holdings to 738,731 BTC. The company's cumulative investment in Bitcoin now stands at approximately $56.04 billion, with an average acquisition price of $75,862 per BTC. Executive Chairman Michael Saylor reaffirmed the company's long-term commitment to Bitcoin as its primary treasury reserve asset, continuing its strategy of accumulating Bitcoin despite market volatility. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

LTFitness

BTC has actually been pretty resilient during this market volatility. People make it seem like this Oil/WW3 drama pushed it from $128k to $68k, but it made that fall while the general market sentiment was actually good and stocks were going up…seemingly due to the 4 year cycle being a self fulfilling prophecy, because it started to drop literally at the nearly exact date the 4 year high in the cycle occurred. But now with all the Oil/WW3 drama, the market is free falling and BTC has been stable at the same prices it’s been for months, which was unexpected.

Blockchainauditor

The “uptrend” we are “clearly in” of BTC being down 21% in the last year and 25% over the last 60 days (or down 1% in the last month)? October was $120+ and into low 60s recently, and you are “buying at the top” every week?

VastJuice2949

Choose a crypto paired with a stable coin. For example, BTC/USDT Set a price range, say 60000-100000 Set the amount of grids you want, say 300 grids Invest 100 USDT into it to get it running, and voila. You know have a spot grid bot which will trade the pair automatically 24/7. Here's [one](https://share.pionex.com/a/jWhlk3jF?l=en) of the ten that I have running I'll DM you a screenshot of what they look like

Odd_Bar9513

Or you can do that at the same time. I have been drastically increasing my position AND reading good BTC literature at the same time🥰

TeaGroundbreaking306

Plus the printing to finance the war. BTC should be spiking.

EcstaticCell1511

DCA works because you are saving capital in case BTC drops further than your avg price. If it does drop below my avg I lump sum to get a better avg. Not rocket science.

altFINS_official

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cryptobauce

The Trump insider whale wallet has opened a $190,000,000 crypto long on BTC and ETH he obviously knows something and trump has a speech today 🤔

Skysor99

Bull or bear market I don't care, I just keep building. I launched my first free crypto app on Android, to Visualize the live BTC/Crypto market or even in 1h-replay (trade bubbles, orders depth, exchanges/pairs aggregation, etc.), in a fun way. You can try it here: [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.cryptostream](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.cryptostream) an iOS version is also coming soon! (pending for Apple approval, they are very slow currently). Please if you like it don't forget to add a review on the Play Store, or give me your feedback here, I'd love to add new features.

leonm0161

The reason you wanna hold your BTC and NEVER SELL is because Bitcoin will always be the only free, digital money as it's a truly decentralised network. If too many people sell at the same time & if the prices drop too hard, miners will earn less money or become unprofitable, resulting in them turning off their miners, which reduces hash rate & makes it easier for an attacker to succeed at an 51%-attack, which could possibly be the end of the network. There will never be a second bitcoin as entities could easily accumulate enough calculation power to easily win a 51% attack while a currency is still small. Bitcoin only survived its first years, because no big entities considered it a real threat back then. Now the big banks know & they will try everything to make it fail

ThePugz

Maybe a few. But the majority of whales have their BTC in cold wallets & it can remain dormant for years even a decade. It’s big news when they move some because it’s so rare. Most are BTC purists & only want BTC to grow, develop & expand. Pumping n dumping would be the antithesis of that goal.

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infernal_celery

That already exists doesn’t it? There’s a company in the Isle of Man who made NFC transfer cards for Lightning payments, and I think Musquet integrated BTC to pay on their POS devices designed for hospitality industry.

longonbtc

Which exchange is best for you depends on what country you are a resident of. I recommend buying bitcoin on [Strike](https://strike.me/), [River](https://river.com/), [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/), or [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) if these platforms serve residents of your country. [River](https://river.com/) and [Strike](https://strike.me/) are the best platforms to set up an automatic hourly, daily, weekly, or monthly recurring purchase schedule (automatic dollar cost averaging schedule). If you set up an automatic hourly, daily, weekly, or monthly recurring purchase schedule on River, then River stops charging you fees after the first week. https://river.com/zero-fee If you set up an automatic hourly or daily recurring purchase schedule on Strike, then Strike stops charging you fees after the first week. And if you set up an automatic weekly or monthly recurring purchase schedule on Strike, then Strike stops charging you fees after the first automatic purchase. https://strike.me/faq/how-do-i-set-up-a-recurring-purchase/ You should also be aware that exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (meaning it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee. [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month. There are also multiple good open source software bitcoin wallet options available but if you do not have very good computer security habits, then I highly recommend you to use a hardware wallet to store your bitcoin instead of a software wallet. And most people don't have very good computer security habits, so I'm not going to bother listing any of the good open source software wallets unless you specifically ask me to. Some good hardware bitcoin wallet options are the [Coldcard Q](https://coldcard.com/q), [BitBox02 Bitcoin-only edition](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/), [Blockstream Jade Plus](https://store.blockstream.com/products/jade-plus?variant=49701334188320), [Trezor Safe 5 Bitcoin-only](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5-bitcoin-only), [Trezor Safe 7 Bitcoin-only](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-7-bitcoin-only), and [Foundation Passport Core](https://foundation.xyz/passport-core/). These six hardware wallets are all good hardware wallets that have publicly available source code that can be reviewed. There are also older & cheaper versions of three of these hardware wallets but they are still open source and reliable. They are just less user friendly than the newer & costlier versions. Those older & cheaper versions are the [Coldcard Mk4](https://coldcard.com/mk4), [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3), and [Blockstream Jade Classic](https://store.blockstream.com/products/blockstream-jade-hardware-wallet). [SeedSigner](https://seedsigner.com/) is another good option. You can easily use readily available parts to build yourself a SeedSigner hardware wallet which is fully open source and can be used in an air-gapped fashion. But SeedSigner is not as user friendly as Trezor, BitBox02, or Blockstream Jade Plus.

BuildWithJohnny

Losing 40% is a tough lesson but your pivot to DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) and focus on BTC/ETH is the most sustainable way to survive a drawdown. Many people make the mistake of 'revenge trading' in micro-caps to win it all back but that usually leads to zero. ​As someone building in this space I've seen that 'dry powder' (USDC) is your biggest asset during high fear (Index at 18). It allows you to buy when others are frozen. Also keeping an eye on institutional moves like JPMorgan and Harvard is smart they play the long game, and so should we. ​Stay disciplined with your bi weekly buys. The market rewards those who can automate their logic and remove their emotions.