BTC

Steezy_Steve1990

I fell for over believing that the 4 year cycle is intact too. Honestly, it might be that the October 10th liquidations just killed alt season. It could be more related to the liquidity cycle now too though in which case we should see another ATH for BTC in 2026. Like you said no one truly knows though.

GoldmezAddams

I view it very similarly to gold, in that right now its monetary role is as a store of value, but it has the potential to be the base money / reserve asset that underlies world currencies. In much the same way that a return to a gold standard wouldn't involve a ton of directly exchanging gold. I think as its superior monetary properties cause it to outcompete other stores of value, the open source permissionless nature of the project makes it almost inevitable that it becomes the sturdy base on which medium of exchange layers are built. We already see this happening with Lightning, ecash, Ark, etc. On top of this, I think it is becoming abundantly clear that the pure fiat experiment of the last 50 years is unsustainable and economic reality will force us to return to sound money eventually. If, between then and now, BTC can continue to cement itself as the best store of value / savings account, it could end up being the obvious choice (over gold) to fill that void and restore confidence in the money. If the world went back to a hard money standard today, I think gold's probably the only game in town. But I don't think that will be so cut and dry 10 years from now.

VariatCA

I see Gold has been down between 4-11% below ATH for nearly 7 weeks. That's almost the exact same price action you were complaining about every single day from mid-August through September, as BTC fluctuated between 108k to 117k. It "completely sucked and you couldn't wait to sell" back then for BTC, but it's nice price action for gold?

Decent_Procedure2981

With that timeline you want to avoid risky investments so that makes sense. Although I feel like in 7-9 years BTC will be higher than it is now. To each his own. I about about a decade younger so I have more time should an error occur. But most importantly of all, I believe in BTC. It's taken 4.5 years but I believe in it.

SilverKiwiz

I like his stuff. He has another channel called "Get Based" where he does BTC documentaries and how he goes to other countries and see the use case of BTC being shared and spread to help grow the community. Great stuff overall imo

Braviosa

Hey, I managed to find these guys. I didn't quite understand the offering/services initially but I'll do more looking in due course. I've been looking at why there's such a disconnect from OG Bitcoiners like and the Wall Street early adopters like Saylor, Pal, Lee & Woods and even the big investment firms like Blackrock, Goldman's and Morgan . And I'm starting to think you're both correct. I believe you that there are indicators which show the bull run is at an end (and my understanding is that it's almost programmatic in nature from the btc dev team), and what happens next is left to the whims of the public and it's usually a giant retail dump and a huge crash. But now things have changed and the dumping has stopped very quickly. We've already seen a full reversal on BTC and selling pressure has disappeared in a full reversal. The halving cycle may be finished so we're left to the macro factors of the market which are actually looking really positive for risks on assets and that's why we're not dropping any further - the asset has matured enough that it doesn't need crazy cycles gains/losses anymore. It will keep going as long as the interest rates stay low, risk on assets will remain positive because the asset holders know what they're doing rather than panicking. We may well have explosive growth outside the 4 year structure and we know the most important ingredient liquidity is coming in the form of stimulus injections into both the US and China markets. Not a single crypto commentator from a trading/investment institution has backed down from their price predictions. The current institutional and nation states holding crypto are increasing their crypto inventory and some are now doubling down that the bullrun will last to 2027 and beyond. We did see gold go nuts on a decade long bullrun when the ETF started selling in the noughties. The stock to flow model was in effect there and we may get a similar cycle with mainstream acceptance. Its the go to narrative the institutions seem to be saying.

imfuckinglying2u

Next in line: BTC

Supaflyray

We go from 450 BTC A Block this halving, to 225 BTC a block next halving. I’d say that is deflationary.

book-scorpion

"But this makes sense. BTC is basically energy. Proof of work/energy is paid for with BTC which has monetary value. So by trading BTC we are trading energy." I don't understand that. Let me make an analogy. Let's say you get 1 fictional "apple-coin" for every 100 apples you produce, and then smash them on the ground, simply destroy. And then you can use that coin to trade with others and buy things. Would that be consider trading "apples"? Those apples are gone, smashed, same as energy needed to mine those bitcoins is gone. The value of bitcoin is not in used energy, the value is in trust of security and usefulness of the whole system. It's like dollars, they used to have a real value when they were backed by gold, but not anymore, now it's value comes from trust in the system.

Aazimoxx

But... It's never been at 10x what it is now 🤔 Hodl error then? 😉 This guy is kinda nuts though, I can imagine putting ⅔ or even ¾ in BTC, but not 100%, in **any** one thing.

Supaflyray

We get less and less BTC every 4 years. Deflationary against the total supply if you ask me.

Training-Fig4889

It gains value as it grows its track record of an unstoppable, unfuckable network of computers. To me, the value of 1 BTC equivalent to the purchasing power of about $10,000,000 USD in 2025. Price is waaay lower than that so I’m buying at a discount

Decent_Procedure2981

Maybe do a percentage in IBIT. Depends on how much you believe in BTC. Just look at the past. So far it's been okay for most if you wait long enough. Or wait for a dip if one even comes. I just consider myself lucky that BTC exists. I found something I believe in that a lot of people too. Even people living in Bhutan lol.

TheGreatCryptopo

Total Volume 0.00159733 BTC $144.68 I'm gonna guess if this catches on anonymous donations could swell the amount. And will stress 'if'.

Decent_Procedure2981

A lot people put it into 1 mutual fund lol. VOO, FXAIX, etc. Someone on this forum took out a loan against their 401k to buy more BTC lol. That aside, I guess you can call me dumb but I believe in BTC. I also dont want kids and am a high income earner. I can recover if shit hits the fan.

TheGreatCryptopo

I can say with 50% certainty BTC will be 100k on Xmas day.

Decent_Procedure2981

I notice this guy wears the same outfit every video. He's also married based on the ring on his finger, hope his partner is OK with him doing all in on BTC lol. Love his energy.

Decent_Procedure2981

If we look at the past we can that investing your 401k in the top of last cycle would have doubled your money in 4 years. I am not condoning it, but it's not the worst decision of all time based on the past. The bigger questions are your age. If you're younger like 30s, you can recover if it crashes/can wait it out. That's where I am at. If you're older like 50s, probably don't recommend doing a large chunk. Maybe 10%. I think it will workout with BTC and hit the market cap of Gold in 10-15 years, maybe 20. Also if it crashes down to 50-60k, I think it's a cheap buy. But no one wants to buy it when it "crashes"

AutisticGayBear69

I think Binance is probably the biggest. I’m region restricted so don’t have an account there anymore. MEXC has a ton. I’ve never had any issues though I see people saying they’ve had their funds frozen. Maybe Hyperliquid but I’ve never used them (I’m region restricted). Aster DEX is another option and is considered a Binance spin off because of CZ endorsement. It’s a perp DEX like Hyperliquid. There’s a number of futures trading competitions happening right now where you can win and/or earn a pretty decent ASTER token airdrop. I’ve received way more in ASTER tokens than I’ve gambled, er, traded 😂. Check out their discord Announcements for details. Also a casual plug for the ASTER token. It just came out a few months ago on the BSC and could be the next BNB. CZ owns a pretty decent bag and I don’t think CZ has too many tokens or coins outside of BNB and BTC. I’m holding all my ASTER airdrops for at least a few years.

Decent_Procedure2981

I appreciate this post. I will keep a look out for these trends/data. I will come back to it if you're right to give you credit :) I also agree, no one knows for sure. 70% bearish/30% bullish is how I feel. FYI Microstrategy is now Strategy now. I think they are good up to BTC hitting 30k is what I have read. With ETFs I think there is solid support. Question: Are you confident (as confident as one can be without a crystal ball) we hit the top and are trending bearish?

Decent_Procedure2981

Idk about 30k, maybe 60k. Usually bottom is last cycles top which is 67k. Unless we hit a full blown recession+a bear market I dont see BTC going lower than that. I could consider selling and going back in later. I plan for all future investments to be in BTC. Are you sure it will go down from now? There might be a floor with ETFs. Or we might hit a true bull run beyond 120k.

CorOsb33

It can be manipulated. ETFs give institutional actors the ability to control BTCs effective supply without direct BTC ownership. You guys thought institutions were in this because they believe in the tech? They don’t care about the tech. They care about utilizing it to further their bottom line.

Quinthyll

Everything that isn't BTC is an alt. That's the definition of an alt coin. And alternative to Bitcoin.

Itur_ad_Astra

BTC closed the weekly candle like $10 in the green. The whale wars are crazy.

Murky_Citron_1799

A decreasing rate of positive inflation is NOT deflationary. Negative inflation is deflation. BTC will never be deflationary in it's current design. But if course the design could change, so we can't rely upon 21m being the eventual cap. 

-Dissonanz-

Thanks for your great thoughts. BTC will continue to exist as long as people are looking for hard money, energy is being produced, states are seeking geopolitical advantages and mining remains profitable. The FIAT system is increasingly faltering, especially recently (see the impact of QE during Covid). People are actively seeking security right now (see gold). In addition, there will be a new FED boss next year who will print a lot of money and delay the inevitable. As far as I know, Bitcoin is now permitted by Russia. Not forgetting Argentina and Turkey. China is reeling. In the USA, JP Morgan is taking it up as colleteral, Vanguard is now part of the ETFs with Böackrock, even though it was vehemently spoken out negatively for years. GeniusACT is signed, even if you can overturn it and criticize it further. If the Democrats take the lead, CBDCs must not be lost sight of (could become problematic). The realignment of the SEC is also beneficial. The natural selection of unprofitable miners is normal, where countries are forced to offer energy cheaper so that it is not outsourced. This means that the competition between China and the USA regarding AI remains intact. Of course, halvings, large companies that can afford them also play a role.

Get_the_nak

The Nakamoto (inofficial name of the fifth decimal of BTC) is now worth $0.9

Decent_Procedure2981

I definetely care. It's because I am not sure we are done with the current bull cycle. I think it can go back to 120-160k. We didn't get a real bull top this year. I think there could be one. Tom Lee thinks so but hes a perma bull and has been wrong before (he said BTC will go down to 60k in mid 2025 but it did not, just 80k and I missed the boat thanks to him). I just feel the cycle top didn't hit yet. I also am not sure if the 4 year cycle is still there. Michael Saylor doesn't think there are cycles anymore. He said that bc the BTC reward is so low we might not see the wild swings we used to. With ETFs/large corporations in BTC, there might be a floor now of like 80k. Or even 90k.

Impressive_Pilot8415

No. Both have unlimited supply ♾️ stick with scarce fixed asset 21M BTC

DrEtatstician

What’s killing BTC is the leverage play , extreme like 2x, 10x !! Crazy

2peg2city

True, doesn't change the inflation rate of BTC being higher for the last 3 years

Haunting_Tax_5991

USDT is easier; BTC could gain value.

soks86

Manipulation? I mean, either you have a free market or you don't. No one can "manipulate" BTC aside from buying and selling and you cannot have a free market otherwise. You should see this as gamblers losing money, but hopefully some of those liquidations are properly hedged...

SevereArrivals13

BTC is up by 1% today, and the daily is making it seem like we dropped heavily, no idea how overleveraged you guys are tbh..

sker13559

What a strawman. I was specifically talking to the people who are actively FUDing MSTR. The ponzi and pyramid scheme references. And specifically why would you buy? Answer, because every share holder accumulates more of the underlying asset. My initial buy of MSTR was at less than $20. I cashed out the majority over $400. There will be more cycles. This just sounds like the same old BTC FUD we have been hearing forever. You went on a wild tangent there. BTC, FBTC, and MSTR combined is less than 20% of net worth including real estate. You made a lot of assumptions. Look beyond what exactly? Whats are your allocations? Teach me something.

geppelle

that's not how it works. You could say there never gonna be more than 10^999 ETH to give you an upper bound like BTC and have the same reasoning.

VariatCA

Where did I say I was buying "the pump" each day? The BTC and ETH I bought back on November 20th is currently up 12-15%, and I don't have any purchases since then. I don't have another unless my ladder-buy order triggers at 77.6k.

Phylaras

Yea, and 2k BTC is nothing. The market has absorbed some $50b in selling pressure from whales recently.

2peg2city

Imagine calling someone stupid and then saying something so clearly incorrect. There are not 21M BTC, that is the eventual max supply

Scionic94

Idk who Jason is, but I think he’s onto something. I have a feeling power companies will be one of the earlier industries to adopt BTC payments.

shimanospd

Yeah, I do wonder why, why every time someone points out that gold, real estate, foreign stocks, or literally any other inflation hedge exists, the MSTR maxi cult screams “FUD!!!” like you just mentioning other assets is a personal attack. It's not. I own bitcoin myself. Bitcoin is 16 years old. Gold has been a store of value for 5,000 years. Real estate has worked forever. Swiss francs, Japanese stocks, commodity funds all of them have protected wealth from dying fiat currencies without a single sat involved. Asking “why not just buy the BTC directly or an ETF instead of this convertible-debt circus?” isn’t “believing the strength of fiat” or cheerleading fiat, it’s literally the most basic due diligence question ever. Pretending that question = blindness is peak cult energy. Look beyond, or don't. Whatever. I'll keep taking a multi prong approach to protecting myself from fiat debasement. Thank you.

jokerswild97

Still didn't answer though... If the dollar is worthless, what currency will the people use? You're not thinking long term adoption and stabilization (or standardization). As long as the governments keep printing money, the value of the dollar goes down. Only assets with limits can retail their value (property, gold, etc). Why do you assume BTC is worth less than a piece of paper? It's acceptance for trade. If the paper becomes worthless, the people will have to adopt something else. Every day, more and more businesses, governments, and institutions put more and more money into BTC, supporting it as something valuable.

DangerHighVoltage111

💪🟢 The only coin been called dead more often than BTC 😎.

Dangerous_Walk9239

Exchanges have gone bankrupt cause BTC dipped in the past? 😭

SeriousGains

Satoshi tests with 1,000 BTC

Letsmovethemarket

Buy ETH and BTC. All others are just poker chips on the roulette table!

Spartarc

Will just say na. Once again the assumption is why do they even accept BTC? To exchange it for currency. A currency that can't be used is not a currency. Remember Zimbabwe? P.S, mining in 100 years is done.

Wheaties4brkfst

Right yeah but this is just exactly why they’ve been doing. The original guy was saying they were going to do some banking w the BTC.

partymsl

A 71 year old woman being scammed through a BTC ATM... wrong on so many levels.

MinimalGravitas

> There’s no new coins entering only becoming available from the set amount That just isn't correct. The coins issued to miners as block rewards don't exist somewhere until given out, they are literally newly minted coins. Another way to say it would be that there are not currently 21 million BTC, there are only 19,958,971 at the moment.

NeoDynomite

Let me rephrase my original reply: Saylor has literally stated multiple times that MicroStrategy structures its BTC-backed loans so they can withstand a 50–90% drawdown without liquidation. That’s what I meant — liquidation protection, not volatility immunity. Overcollateralization doesn’t stop mark-to-market losses; it just prevents forced selling. The strategy relies on long-term appreciation, not banking-style ROA.

sker13559

I assume that people will figure it out. Do you know the answer to "why someone would buy MSTR instead of raw BTC or an ETF? There are entire threads repeating a negative narratives on every platform simultaneously. Do you wonder why? Every share holder that has held for any reasonable amount of time owns more BTC or Satoshis per share today. More BTC for the initial investment. That is called leverage. So yes people who dont understand need to stop spreading FUD they heard, and instead do some research for themselves. There is room to own all three. BTC, ETF, and MSTR. All for different reasons.

NeoDynomite

You’re mixing up MicroStrategy with an actual bank and applying banking metrics to a strategy that isn’t a banking strategy. MSTR isn’t trying to earn a 1% ROA on lent-out capital. They’re not doing fractional reserves or lending deposits. They’re executing a leveraged treasury strategy — borrowing cheap dollars to accumulate the hardest asset they believe will outperform every liability on their balance sheet over a multi-decade horizon. Overcollateralization isn’t about maximizing yield like a bank. It’s about minimizing liquidation risk while holding a long-duration asset. And your “10% drop erases 10 years of earnings” assumes Bitcoin has zero appreciation over that same decade, which completely removes the entire thesis from the equation. If BTC didn’t appreciate long-term, the strategy wouldn’t exist in the first place. MicroStrategy’s return doesn’t come from traditional banking spreads. It comes from Bitcoin compounding faster than their debt costs. Treating it like a commercial bank model leads you to conclusions that don’t actually apply to what they’re doing.

Hazel-cyperpunk

Why crypto? BTC is King

Kind_Soup_9753

Uh BTC hit all time high less than 2 months ago. I thought we were doing amazing. You must be new. Stick around and the red will be gone.

bramleyapple1

I'd say BTC is still inflationary until it reaches it's final amount, but really we're splitting hairs.

ChainConcepts

For BTC, an important distinction is that it is disinflationary not deflationary.

Ted_The_Brown_Bear

but can you withdraw BTC?

Wheaties4brkfst

Most banks have a return on assets of like 1% so this would mean that strategy is limited to like 650m in profit per year at 100k BTC. Not enough to even cover the preferred dividends lol.

itsaworry

Well one option is to put whatever you have got into BTC and sit back and see what happens with that . . ... ... but yeah , don't give up the day job .

IDNWID_1900

Paying things with BTC is as stupid as buying food with Tesla stocks. Why would you use an investment as regular cash? It makes no sense.

OREG_Keith

I see it dropping significantly. After being in BTC and others for 4-1/2 years I finally sold it at $101k before it dropped below $100k. I took those profits and bought the dip on AI tech and gold. I see BTC heading below $50k and I don’t see a ride up above $100k anytime soon. When it drops below $50k I’ll consider buying again.

jokerswild97

If USD is worthless, then what is the currency the people would use? We're already seeing it in other countries with runaway inflation or extremely volatile currency value.... A lot of adoption of BTC to preserve their money.

NeoDynomite

Let me share this with you. I created it with AI to make it easy for my family and friends to understand… For over 50 years, our financial system has barely changed. It runs on slow wires, middlemen, bank delays, and tons of paperwork. Now everything is being rebuilt using blockchain technology — and the change is as big as the jump from landline phones to smartphones. People like Tom Lee, Larry Fink (BlackRock), Ray Dalio, and others are openly saying: ✅ “This is a once-in-a-generation change in how money and assets move.” Here’s the easiest way to understand it. ⸻ 🔹 1. Everything is moving onto blockchains Stocks, bonds, real estate, currencies — everything is being “tokenized,” which means they will move and settle on the blockchain. Just like movies moved from DVDs → Netflix assets are moving from paper → blockchain. This makes transactions: • instant • cheaper • safer • 24/7 • global This is why Wall Street, banks, and governments are all switching to blockchain rails. ⸻ 🔹 2. Ethereum is becoming the “internet of finance” Ethereum will likely become the network where: • stocks trade • real estate transfers • loans settle • money moves • contracts run automatically Think of Ethereum like the new financial computer. Banks will use it. Companies will use it. AI systems will use it. This is why big institutions are quietly buying Ethereum. ⸻ 🔹 3. Bitcoin becomes the foundation underneath everything Even if people mostly pay with dollars or stablecoins… The global financial system still needs a backup asset that everyone can trust. Bitcoin became that asset because: • it can’t be changed • it can’t be printed • it belongs to no country • it’s fully transparent • it settles instantly worldwide Bitcoin becomes the “digital gold” that backs the system — not by backing dollars, but by backing trust. That’s why so many billionaires, CEOs, and investment funds view Bitcoin as essential. ⸻ 🔹 4. Why both Bitcoin and Ethereum matter ETH = the digital world where assets live and move Think of it like the highways, power grid, and computer system of the new financial world. BTC = the digital asset that gives the system trust Think of it like the safety vault and the foundation the system stands on. Both are needed: • Ethereum runs the global financial apps • Bitcoin secures the global financial value This is why neither replaces the other. ⸻ 🔹 5. Why this transition is happening now Because the old system is: • too slow • too expensive • too easy to break • not built for AI, globalization, or 24/7 commerce The new system is: • instant • global • programmable • transparent • much safer Every major institution — BlackRock, Fidelity, JPMorgan, Citi, etc. — is preparing for this shift. This is NOT a small trend or a fad. It’s the beginning of a new financial era. ⸻ 🔹 6. What this means long-term Bitcoin and Ethereum are becoming: ✔ Core building blocks of the future financial system ✔ Assets that institutions will need for decades ✔ Critical infrastructure for governments, companies, and markets This is why so many analysts — Tom Lee, Mike Novogratz, Cathie Wood, etc. — believe prices will rise long-term. It’s not speculation. It’s adoption.

Spartarc

Not wanting to be this guy, but if USD becomes worthless. I don't think anyone will care about BTC in the US just the same.

MinimalGravitas

The amount of ETH in circulation has gone up by an average of 0.193% per year since it switched to proof of stake ('The Merge') about 3 years and 3 months ago. The amount of BTC in circulation has increased by an average of 1.282% per year over that same time. Looking more recently, over the last 30 days the current BTC supply has been increasing by 0.825% per year, while the current ETH supply is increasing at 0.783% per year. > But BTC doesn’t have inflation, we’re mining to the last block reward, and then transaction fees will be paid to miners. This just depends on human choices, it is not a law of the universe or anything, it just depends on consensus. There is no agreed upon solution to Bitcoin's security budget issue, and one of the most likely options is to introduce tail emmissions, scrapping the 21 million limit in order to keep paying miners... and this would happen significantly before the current emmission schedule reaches zero. The problem to be solved is that Bitcoin (the chain) can only process a relatively small number of transactions per block, therefore the only way to replace the new BTC issuance with transaction fees is to massively increase the cost for users. Doing so however would disincentivize users from transacting, which means the payment to miners would need to be taken from fewer transactions, meaning they would need to cost more, meaning fewer people would transact etc etc and round we go again. The result is that less revenue would be going to miners, so less miners/hashrate would participate, and so the security of the chain decreases. The more expensive BTC becomes and the lower the security budget, the more tempting of a target the network becomes. A lot of people who get their understanding from twitter memes and non-technical influencers like Saylor seem to believe that Bitcoin would be infinitely expensive to attack, but a successful 51% attack at the moment would cost just tens of billions of dollars, a lot for sure, but not much compared to the total amount of value on Bitcoin. Just letting the cost of a successful attack reduce will all but guaruntee that the chain is 51% attacked at some point. None of the proposed solutions seem very palitable: * Massively increase block-size so more transactions can occur per block - this would reduce decentralization and last time it was proposed there was a civil war that resulted in BCH; * Abandon PoW mining and change to a new consensus model - difficult because Bitcoin Maxis have spent the last 5 years preaching that every other system is heresy; * Abandon the 21 million limit and introduce tail emissions, this would allow miners to be sustained long term and would not need a big change to the network, but of course would upset all of the 'store of value' newbies who think understanding Bitcoin just means believing the coin will increase in value.

Alternative-Swan-673

Fidelity’s 1% is a rip-off. I pay .2% on Gemini, 5x cheaper. Also if you use Fidelity for storage and want to sell on Gemini they only let you transfer $25,000 per day. This is a joke if you have a lot of BTC.

FromThePits

You're welcome If you're into historical BTC graphs, maybe check out https://hodl.camp Click around the coloured area to get exact entry/exit prices through time. As you might notice the green sky is overwhelmingly large against the few red clouds :) Cheers

Supaflyray

You gotta be a bot. BTC has a finite amount. Only 21m. ETH doesn’t have a max supply. But as transaction happen, old ETH is burned and new ETH is minted. At one point, ETH was deflationary. Burning more ETH than it mints. But the last time I checked, it’s like a few hundred thousand new ETH is minted every year, depending on burn and gas fees. Like maybe 100k NEW ETH entering the market every year.

oak1337

3rd crypto ever, behind BTC and ETH, to get a spot ETF. Entire countries adopting (examples Australia and Georgia). Global Fortune 2000's building on it, which will be seen when CLARITY Act finally passes. I guess time will tell... While ETH and all it's L2's are still fumbling around with the Blockchain Trilemma trying to figure out how to scale, Hedera solved the Trilemma, donated it's entire codebase to Linux Foundation, and got launched into space on satellites for Post Quantum Security companies.

Dull-Assumption-964

Today's my observations regarding the recent activity in the Bitcoin market. Recently, an individual mentioned to a group that there were over a billion BTC sold today, Sunday, December 7, 2026. This information is easily verifiable, yet I find myself labeled as a bot and on the receiving end of smart remarks within my comments. While I acknowledge that I may not possess the highest level of expertise in this area, I pride myself on my ability to read, analyze, and pay attention to market trends. Many in our discussions argue that energy consumption is irrelevant to market performance. However, I'm inclined to suggest that the current market fluctuations occurring this Sunday morning, with notable intermediate jumps exceeding $91,000 per coin, indicate otherwise. I anticipate that the market will continue to rise and may surpass the $100,000 mark before the 15th. I appreciate the opportunity to express myself.

Murky_Citron_1799

This fud is laughable. Eth inflation rate has been less than BTC's for the last 3+ years since the merge. Why does nobody cry about BTC's comparably larger inflation rate?

DryMyBottom

nice sunday (not so) little green candle for BTC

panthera_N

BTC, your little efforts only benefit shcoin, let go and fall, I wait for you below

ChangeYourFate_

Wow I know today’s a good day when the daily is buzzing and even more so when the chat bots are out yelling red day ahead when BTC is pumping

WinstonChurshill

Strange take… BTC ranging between 120k and 80k… bitcoin mining stocks have given 1000% returns… you can hate something, but if you learn about it, you can get rich… Or just stay broken mad with your old hair

SpontaneousDream

Alts are cooked imo. There will be some that will hold up better than others, but long term it seems pretty clear that their value is very dubious at best. Holding spot BTC is very comfortable. The only way alts recover is if a BTC rally starts happening. I don't doubt we get a relief rally soon but long term it's not looking good for them.

SpontaneousDream

10/10 is GOOD for you in this situation...alts got rekt. BTC held fine

Affectionate_Knee_96

What crypto bubble? BTC didn’t do anything this year😂 didn’t even come close to overbought

HorsedickGoldstein

I bet by this time next week BTC will be trading at exactly the same point it is today. Right around 90k. Nobody knows anything what a useless post

bbqyak

After 12 years in the crypto game, I'm taking the gamble for one last pump (I'm holding various coins) and exiting. When or if BTC drops back down low enough, I'll buy back in. But I just want to exit for a bit. I made a lot of bad decisions over the years, which is why I'm not rich despite buying BTC so long ago. I just want to enjoy and lock in profits for the first time in my life. As I've gotten older I no longer care about the "home run". Money has a new value to me now that it didn't before when I was just a teenager living with my parents.

potificate

Oh damn... did you at least keep going until you got back 20 BTC or did you give up sooner?

growmywealth

No one is prepared to receive 10K paycheck and watch 30% of it disappear the next day. Bitcoin is not a replacement for fiat. Very happy it worked for your employees, but majority others who need to make their ends meet can't stomach such volatility in their paycheck. 1=1 BTC would be valid the day it becomes stable and you won't have to convert it to Fiat. Right now we are not there yet. So it remains speculation and investment.

Zdendon

Funny thing BTC usually tanks after this kind of positive news. No idea why.

Ok_Safe_4070

What I hate most about being in crypto is how stupid and delusional the majority of the community is. The rate cut we're getting this week is already priced in. What isn't priced in are Powell's comments. Crypto will continue sideways and down until $BTC confirms a bullish stochastic RSI cross on the weekly and 2 week time frame

Elemental_Breakdown

People who were never interested before have started moving money out of bitcoin and other tokens and into precious metals which is easier, and gives them something tangible. New investors have preferred over a largely failed meme coin market and a lot of Wall Street which has been like catching a falling knife. Gold almost doubled to $4200/oz and silver went from $28 to $58/oz in the last year. If those prices fall or the process to move BTC to a cold wallet becomes more straightforward and safe /secure, maybe some will invest the huge amounts I see in metals. Even governments who just last year were talking about Bitcoin reserves have been now buying and hoarding silver and gold. The Chinese tried to withdraw some absurd amount of physical silver which is the real reason the Chicago exchange went down last week.

docherino

I don't know where the bottom is but this is not capitulation. A 30% drop is normal for BTC

OldHamburger7923

Issue with that is the halvings have very little I pact going forward on issuance, and few people believe BTC goes to $0 anymore. So I doubt we get the extreme dumps and we are close to the super cycle where the 4 year peaks go away. It's possible we aren't there yet, but if we are, all the folks who offloaded everything will find themselves unable to buy back in again, at least never with quantities they had this cycle.

MinimiMichigan

Keep your perspective. Don't even worry about the current price. I have been in BTC since early 2015 and keep my perspective that what I buy (on a monthly basis) is going to be worth at least double in 2 years. The actual increase in price is way higher (196%). I haven't found any other investment that consistently gives this high a return. For instance, Jan 20, 2024 BTC was $42k, now it's $89k. So, given my experience I expect that 89k to be at least $180k 2 years from now. In very simple terms, don't worry about the price your buying, just think about how much it will be worth in 2 years. Everything else is just noise.

bot_whisperer

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FromThePits

Just signed up. Great initiative. I wonder if the USD purchasing power graph is super-relevant, as it is strictly historical data of which most of us is very aware of, but that is your call of course :) The date-modul for first time bitcoin purchase is a bit annoying when you have to click 12 times for every year you want to go back. Thats the experience on cellphone. Might wanna look into that :) Hope your predictions comes true. These things are historically hard to predict. Short-term it can easily go either way. I highly anticipate accumulation of BTC value over time due to increased scarcity. My timeframe goes even further than 2045 as I have published a multi-sig solution to keep bitcoin in my family for at least the next 4 generations. You might find inspiration from it? Find it here : www.thegreekchain.info There's no paywall or adds. If you fill out the formular I will include you in my newsletter too. Best wishes

NeoDynomite

They’re not arguing from facts; they’re arguing from envy and cope. A lot of people resent Saylor because he’s too loud, too successful, and (most triggering of all) he’s actually executing the “infinite Bitcoin accumulator” strategy while everyone else was just tweeting about it. Throw in the XRP army who still believe their 2017 hopium chart is going to flip BTC, plus the usual nocoiner/doomer crowd praying for validation, and you’ve got a perfect storm of emotional baggage masquerading as analysis. The funniest part? They don’t realize that if Bitcoin actually went to zero, literally every other crypto project dies with it. BTC is the reserve asset whether they like it or not. No Bitcoin = no crypto period. Good thing that’s not happening.

anonbull8

Mastercard jumping into Bitcoin spending is wild. You’ll be able to use BTC to spend… no more converting to cash first. Curious to see how fees and settlement work, but this could push crypto deeper into everyday payments. More volume equals to more liquidity which likely means 🐂📈

DRAGULA85

Pretend $100k BTC is $1k

Project_Demosthenes_

Alt coins are all memecoins and I would recommend only BTC, ETH, and SPX6900.

SpontaneousDream

I don't get why more people aren't lending BTC and borrowing ETH or LINK on Aave. Borrow APY for LINK, for example, has been sub 1% for a very long time!! And the link/btc ratio has literally just been going straight down for over 5 years straight...same with eth/btc. Ratio has been straight down since 2018! That means if you borrow ETH back then at around 0.14 ratio, the debt you owed would be worth about-75% less. When you include a roughly 3% borrow APY, the debt owed would've gone down in value by about 70% (in other words, you profit 70% on your ratio trade). Am I missing something?

s74-dev

BTC dips with USD

YogurtclosetTall2558

Most “top crypto” ETFs end up looking simpler on the surface than they actually are. The overfunded effect you’re seeing usually comes from premiums, liquidity gaps, or how the fund custodies the underlying assets. Crypto ETFs don’t behave like S&P index funds because the underlying market is fragmented and custody risk still exists. So the ETF price drifting above actual NAV isn’t unusual. If you want exposure without picking coins but still want something closer to the real assets, you’re usually better off holding a small basket yourself. BTC + ETH plus one or two infrastructure plays gives you more control and less hidden structure.

YogurtclosetTall2558

Honestly, with 1000 dollars the best move is to avoid chasing random tickers. Start with assets that have survived every cycle like BTC and ETH. Then, if you want exposure to newer narratives, look at projects solving real problems instead of meme tokens. For example, data infrastructure in AI is becoming a real sector. Something like Ocean Protocol focuses on secure data exchange and has been around since 2017 without blowing up users. But don’t buy anything blindly. Start small, learn how wallets work, and treat it like a long term experiment instead of a gamble.

YogurtclosetTall2558

Most people will throw wild numbers here, but the honest answer is nobody knows. The only thing we can map is the trend. Every cycle has been driven by new demand unlocks. If ETFs, AI compute, and global adoption accelerate, 200k isn’t unrealistic. If regulation tightens or liquidity dries up, the range stays flat. What looks more interesting is the ecosystem forming around Bitcoin and AI. Data, compute, and agent infra are gaining traction. Projects like Ocean Protocol or AIOZ are positioning for that sector, and if the narrative grows, they might ride alongside BTC rather than depend on guesswork. The thesis matters more than the target.