BTC

TheHunterAmin

BTC (halving) 4 year cycles dont have a monopoly in markets. Its a straight up lie, I dont say it effects in sime way, but looking at facts. Stock market usually have 4 year cycle way before BTC exists. Plenty of examples where it bottomed in midterm years!

rekt_by_inflation

I have about 5,000 BTC but nobody ever messages me back. Probably doesn't help that I'm a Nigerian prince

gorewndis

Honest take: if you're asking what new coins to buy in bulk for potential, you're already framing it wrong. The "new coins with potential" framing is exactly how people lose money in crypto. The boring answer is the right one — BTC and ETH have survived multiple cycles, regulatory crackdowns, and market crashes. Everything else is speculation with much worse odds. If you absolutely want alt exposure, at least look at projects that have been around for multiple cycles and still have active development and real usage. Anything launched in the last 6 months with promises of moon potential is statistically going to zero. The best time to buy was during maximum fear. The worst time is when everyone's asking what to buy.

stevedave1357

My plan was to hold it until the end of the year and sell what I needed for another car. It was worth about $13 in December 2012, so I would have sold maybe 2,000 and held onto the rest. My guess is I would have made it to April 2021 when it surged to $60k then I would have sold most or all of it. Say, at least 2,000. That would have been a windfall of $120,000,000 and I'd be lying if I said I could resist that. I would have probably held onto the last 1,000 BTC to see where it went and probably would still have it. Yes, I would have accepted it if my wife let me. My best friend was into BTC in 2010. Smartest guy I knew. Was already making 500k a year working for Bloomberg and he told me to do it. He predicted it would at least double in the following 6 months at the time (Feb 2012). And no, I'm not kidding. I think about killing myself at least once a week as I sit at my fucking desk working my shitty gov job I hate knowing I'll probably die before I ever get to retire.

Crysack

Ok, so it’s the usual argument about fiat devaluation. The problem is that BTC demonstrably doesn’t behave that way, at all. And it never has. If BTC were digital gold, we should expect it to be peaking in price as equities markets decline and vice versa. But it doesn’t. It behaves exactly like a high beta risk asset, and worse, its value is intrinsically tied to interest rates and the value of the USD. The lack of faith that people have in BTC isn’t just due to the volatility, it’s because there isn’t a clear thesis about why BTC should be valuable long term. The fact that there is a limited supply isn’t enough.

AlexandreSh1941

If you bought Bitcoin or ETH: Be patient. Patience on Bitcoin pays off. If you bought other altcoins: consider selling everything and move into BTC with what's left, or prepare yourself mentally for a 60% 70% correction from here. Use your losses to offset your gains next year. With the exception of ETH, don't buy altcoins anymore. Give that money to charity or use that money to enjoy your life, at least that way, you'll get some happiness at the end of the day

welshdragoninlondon

Thing is most people follow this advice. In bear market leave come back near top of bull market and lose money. Most people would be better off just DCA small amounts into BTC. Then start selling when BTC goes past all time high

sillygitau

Eh? Last I looked 1 BTC is still worth exactly 1 BTC… who cares how many crappy bits of some governments paper I can get for it…

tenor_tymir

I won’t be looking at BTC prices until October this year, that’s where I’ll slowly start to accumulate.

financeguruIB

True. I’d say we’re close to the bottom but not quite there yet. Some alts may have bottomed out but the higher cap ones may still have some ways to go along with BTC. I’d bank on the bottom being around April-May is. I’m buying every week though. If we drop more i buy more

blvrg

The 4-year cycle has historically held, but the "we'll definitely bottom in autumn" conviction is exactly the kind of certainty that gets people rekt. Nobody knows the exact timing. That said, the cycle thesis isn't random speculation — it's tied to halvings (April 2024 was the latest), supply shocks, and historically consistent patterns. Every cycle has had a bear phase with -77% to -93% drawdowns, followed by recovery and new ATHs. The question is whether we're near the bottom or just in a temporary range before more downside. On your specific situation: you bought 30% of your portfolio after a crash, it's gone sideways, and now you're considering selling to "buy lower." This is the classic trap. You're essentially trying to time two moves perfectly — the exit AND the re-entry. Most people who attempt this end up either selling into a rally or waiting on the sidelines while price leaves them behind. The Power Law model I track at [timetobuybitcoin.com](https://timetobuybitcoin.com) puts the oscillator at around 50-55% right now — meaning BTC is roughly at fair value relative to its 15-year trend, not in deep undervaluation (sub-25%) but also nowhere near cycle top territory (93-99%). Historically, the best entries have been when the oscillator dips below 25%, which has happened during every major capitulation. If you genuinely believe more downside is coming, a middle-ground approach: keep your current position and set aside dry powder to DCA aggressively if we get that sub-25% oscillator reading. That way you're not trying to time the market perfectly — you have exposure if it pumps, and firepower if it dumps. Not financial advice, just how I'd think through it.

blvrg

You’re not a degenerate — you’re just battle-tested. This is actually one of the most underrated advantages long-term holders develop, and it’s exactly what separates people who accumulate wealth in this space from those who panic sell at every dip. What you’re describing is basically the transition from emotional investor to data-driven investor. The people who bought BTC in 2018 at $6k watched it drop to $3.2k (-84%), held through it, and then rode it to $69k. The ones who panicked and sold locked in losses on what turned out to be one of the best buying opportunities in Bitcoin’s history. For context, Bitcoin has had drawdowns of -93% (2011), -86% (2014), -84% (2018), and -77% (2022) — and every single one fully recovered and went on to new all-time highs. Once you’ve internalized that pattern, a 20% dip genuinely stops feeling like the end of the world. The one thing I’d watch out for: make sure “not caring” doesn’t turn into “not paying attention.” There’s a difference between emotional resilience and recklessness. Having a framework helps — I use the Power Law oscillator (timetobuybitcoin.com) to gauge whether BTC is cheap or expensive relative to its long-term trend. When dips happen and the oscillator drops, that’s actually a signal to buy more, not just shrug. Turning volatility into a strategy instead of just enduring it is the next level. So no, you’re not numb — you’ve just leveled up. The trick is using that calm to your advantage instead of just coasting. Not financial advice.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

meandjarvis

It is exactly my mindset change. Started to DCA in mid 2024, I remember back then the price was about $58k, I was - 1. checking the price constantly. 2. selling at $67k. 3. mood went down when the price drops to $53k. Then I started to get my mind under control and kept DCAing. Fast forward to today, almost 2 years later - 1. I have a decent bitcoin portfolio, definitely invested more than if it was just a few bets on bitcoin. 2. even with the weak bitcoin performance in the past few months (many even think it's bear market now), am still well above the water, indicating the power of DCA and HODL. 3. During the process, I've learned how to ignore FUD and all the noise. I've been listening to some imo good sources that help me keep faith in BTC and my DCA strategy. And recently, I noticed that I even started to ignore these positive sources too... it's like am in monk mode, all the up and downs, good and bad, am watching, observing, experiencing, with calmness. 4. Maybe I will sell a little at some point but am sure I will DCA more. My portfolio consists of BTC, gold, S&P 500 and cash, and I consider this portfolio to be my retirement fund and even pass to my kid so I am in absolutely no rush. BTW, recently I've been thinking about buying an ETF that consists of top tier non-US equities. Any recommendation?

AnonymousPenetration

I honestly can’t understand an investment approach based on long term like this, never looking at the price action and just dumping money into btc no matter if it is on long-time high or not. BTC is a very volatile asset and not having any financial literacy can backfire. This year will be excellent for dollar cost averaging from the moment BTC drops below 60k but these are the levels that people simple are not interested in investing in BTC which I find insane. As an example of a friend from work: I recommended him back in October to liquidate partially his spot position on btc. His answer was he’s not interested, that only during retirement he would be interested in liquidating everything. I really can’t understand this approach since you can take the profits from your current position to reinforce it later when the price is lower. Basically he bought btc at around 35k and now we are returning to those same exact levels. What a waste….

CryptoOnTheSidewalk

First off, congrats on hitting 0.1. That is a real milestone, especially if you built it up steadily. Personally I think the bigger question is not 0.5 vs 1 BTC, it is how comfortable you are with concentration risk. I like Bitcoin long term, but I also sleep better knowing I am not 100 percent exposed to one asset. Even broad index funds can smooth out the ride a bit. If having everything in one basket makes you uneasy now, that feeling probably will not disappear at 0.5. It might be worth thinking in terms of overall allocation instead of a specific BTC target.

Long_Tackle_6931

Lol if BTC is what’s go up I just buy etfs

baIIern

Man muss sich nur die Charts ansehen und realisieren, dass BTC offiziell gewonnen hat und BCH langsam dahinsiecht. Wer das nicht sieht, der ist gehirngewaschen

Visual_Title9363

Best case. We get a decentralized future. Worst case. We get a more efficient back-office for tradfi. The issue I have with these arguments are folks in developed world making these claims - these are not meant for you. You have a politically stable financial system, rule of law and general property rights. - Have you tried using DePin for side income? - Save hundreds per year wiring remittances to the Global South? - Or on-ramp as Ukrainians have done to BTC to bring their wealth crossborder before bank/currency controls swept in? Bitcoin lighting network literally hit all time high, along with stablecoins volumes matching those of VISA, MasterCard. For once, everyone in global South has access to tokenized money market fund / a USD savings account on their phone regardless of income strata. The use cases are there if you would like to find it. But your first inclination is to open up the Robinhood app and look at the price charts.

figurative-trash

I currently hold a little over 0.1 of a BTC, purchased over the last year. Last night, I had a vivid dream where BTC dropped all the way to zero. I was very excited and decided this was a good time to buy 20 BTC ( I don't know why 20). So I scrambled to open my app to make the purchase. But as dreams tend to go, I just could not open the app no matter how hard I tried.

TMBDRLN420

No worries man, road to 1mill per BTC

TMBDRLN420

Long term investor. I was stacking from 2017 100$ every month, and never checked the prices (I had a good finical mentor that). First time that BTC reached 100k, I sold a little, than BTC hits a new ath 126k I sold a little more. When price drop down I come back to put 100$ every month. (I was selling bcs I needed money to buy a dream house) Don't check your portfolio every 5 minutes, don't panic sell and that it is. Sure it's a stressful thing to see that your money is down 50%,60% but there a more stressful things in life than loosing a peace of paper :)

Honest_Serve5398

Hodling it from 130$. Keep hearing BTC is dead every 6 months. Lol.

Orson_G

In 20 years, we'll likely be seeing it as the reserve currency backing all major global currencies. Govts and the large infra, banking and energy companies I believe will be doing day to day transactions and settlements on their own platforms, which will be interconnected across the world. Settlement will occur on-chain as per the rules of the network, withe miners incentivized by the Govts. corps etc that will send the transactions they have processed/collected to then be settled on-chain Govts, infra companies etc who have BTC holdings will likely be receiving royalties - a one world reserve currency is coming, and with Govts unlikely to hand this power to another entity, the only really viable way is Bitcoin

blue123405

BTC will reach 40k by the end of the year do not invest now

idmook

A hedge should be a non-correlated or negatively correlated asset to the one you're hedging against. BTC ain't it.

FutureAct6442

Same thing happened in March 2020. Google trends spiked, retail panicked, BTC was at $4K. Six months later it was at $12K.

itsmeblc

The wealth gap would tremendously grow if BTC hits $1mil. The amount of BTC at the top vs normal population is a big %.

grayjacanda

The rate at which new BTC are produced \*should\* eventually make the halvings less relevant as a driver of price. So the cycle should damp. But it can also function as a self-fulfilling prophecy for a while ... until it doesn't. At any rate, it will not be an eternal feature of bitcoin.

Odd_Bar9513

Then I’m 1 in 10M 🥹 Technically only 10M people in the whole world could pull that off. Even cooler is the 1M club which means owning 21 BTC.

Odd_Bar9513

I was talkinh about 2.1 BTC and the situation in like 10 years.

Policeshootout

In Costa Rica people buy/trade/pay with BTC all the time. It's widely accepted. Friends of mine just bought a house there with BTC last year. Another friend accepts it as payment at her salon. I've bought beer, groceries, can rides, tours all with BTC.

SumSumFromMars11

I'm assuming they mean if BTC hits $1mil

Long_Tackle_6931

Lol it’s always just been a speculative asset. I’ve made hundreds of thousands on if and I don’t even think about it. Sold ethereum this cycle $3k BTC $90k sold

PirateSKB

Carvana went from like 8 bucks to 300+ since 2023. You'd made endless money if you bought Carvana instead of Bitcoin, same if you bought some alts that mooned or other good stocks lol BTC is for safe lazy gainz w/ volatility

timestreamdefender

This and the last weekends felt like collectively they would be the dumbest/scariest weekends to hold BTC or ETH over the weekend

Last-Progress18

At least in Silk Road days BTC actually had people using it. It’s now just a spreadsheet where people get excited by owning a square. Wake me up when anyone spends or uses it **daily**.

Seattleman1955

It's largely now just a self-fulfilling thing. People think there will be a "crypto winter" and therefore they sell and the price goes down. The supposed reasons for the cycle change every time. The more important question, IMO, for you to consider is why are you buying BTC? At this point, IMO, it's fairly mature and will perform about like gold performs. No one is obsessive regarding gold so why do you want to buy Bitcoin?

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mtnmahogany

I personally do not think of my BTC as an "investment."I prefer to think of it as merely a store of value. I can spend it if I need to, but would rather not.  Its great when it goes up in value against fiat, but I just enjoy knowing how it's immutable, and I don't have to get anyone's  permission to "withdraw" my funds on the blockchain.

5nakeplisken

I bought some in the end of 2024 @ $92k. I sold some bonds to "get into BTC". LoL. I should have kept the Bonds.

BooTeeEater69

If you look at the history of BTC and see how many times it has done this, and you plan to hold for 15-20 years, you should really feel nothing. This is just what it does, and will continue to do.

Substantial_Sir1983

it depends on what percentage of your net worth you want invested in BTC.

riseandride69

BTC is 68k now, what did it give back?

PhysInstrumentalist

I think stop losses with BTC are good

Ok_Location_1092

Allocation and not quantity is what to be looking at. Do not have everything in one basket. The allocation for BTC is up to your risk tolerance and conviction. Just be sure to be clear on the risk profile of BTC. Compare it to something like the SP500 or DOW. Are the expected/desired gains worth the difference in risk profile between the two assets? And given the different profile, what percent of your assets should really be allocated to the high risk option? For me it’s low single digits

magicseadog

DCA Or buy strategy If saylor doesn't win BTC id fucked and he's buying otc cheaper than you can

PerceptionOk8543

Yea drugs, trafficking, politicians doing shady deals - this is the only use case of crypto and has been for the last 18 years. And I’m not sure if anybody uses BTC for that, Monero is there

Fortknightdad2231

Yeah, I was thinking about the 2024 bounce when writing this. It seems like its bouncing quicker everytime, wonder what the end goal would look like. Guessing something along the lines of BTC stabilizing, considering regulations and all too

Kevinicok

I only believe BTC is like digital gold, unique, finite, valiously and decentralized, so, in the future, it'll be most values than today. BTC and gold are real "money".

Laakhesis

IMO, get to at least 1 BTC, especially when you're young. Then move to traditional investments like broad market index funds.

Quirky-Reveal-1669

You will stop stacking at 2.1 BTC?

theincognito66

If I were you, I would start investing in other assets too. But there’s no reason to not stop accumulating BTC. And now isn't the best time to sell BTC to move into other assets (being this far down from ATH). Just figure out your personal goals and stick to a plan. Don't panic buy or sell anything.

financeguruIB

I wouldn’t sell as i think the alt szn you hope for will eventually come next bull run. BTC took the show this bull run. But next run alts will be winning as well. I might be coping but time will tell

Top-Care-8946

I see current dips as opportunity for the people like me who just wants to jump onto board of the "Crypto Ship" :-) . Sure as BTC is highly volatile then the price is bouncing up and down but overall outcome is not bad because it's still worth more than any fiat. If we look another crypto currency like USDT then it depends more on USD than BTC. BTC does not depend on fiats inflation but is more affected by demand and offer ratio. If current dippers are buying more then at certain point there will be demand higher than offer and that deficit may make BTC price going up again. It all depends when selling trends flips over to hold trend because if there's no selling then there's no offers and this depends about at what price tag holders are motivated to sell again. I have seen some videos on YT where crypto youtubers are talking that governments and institutions are buying BTC and I understand why- because it is cheaper to accumulate now and after that cycle finishes then it will be more expensive. They are preparing for an emergency when something happens to the traditional fiscal system and fiat currencies may suffer hyper inflation. And in this case governments are not able to trade in fiats but must to do it in BTC instead. So I will continue to buy. Currently I am buying in small amounts and I do not plan to sell them anyway because I just started to collect crypto funds. I see crypto investement like a long term strategy because fiats are losing their value much more quickier than crypto ever is losing. Because it is very unlikely to happen that BTC goes again back to the 1BTC=1USD exhange rate. So if BTC drops below 1K USD then it may be good to consider if sell all because it's too risky to hold. But at current rate of 1BTC/67K USD is still worth to hold and buy.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

I only bought SOL, ETH, and two other altcoins and made about 80% profit in December 2024. That was great, but not enough for me, since I had been buying these coins for four years. I was also hoping for a bigger altcoin season in Q4 2025, maybe even a 5x, but that never came. I’m still holding these coins for now and trying to decide whether to keep them or sell and go all in on BTC.

Life-Republic2311

“With 40 journalists spread across nearly 20 U.S. states” There must be a BTC maxi amongst them! 😂

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Honestly, buying cheap “good-looking” altcoins during a bear market feels like a smart move at first. I thought staking them would make it even better. But after the last cycle, I realized it didn’t really pay off. I actually lost more than I made. Looking back, I would’ve been way better off just sticking to BTC.

b1mm3rl1f3

"Although Bitcoin is crashing I bought one more whole Bitcoin for $67k. Why? Two reasons: #1: Because the Big Print will begin when the US debt crashes the dollar and “The Marxist Fed” begins printing trillions in fake dollars. #2: The magical 21 millionth Bitcoin is getting close to being mined. When the 21st millionth Bitcoin is mined…. Bitcoin becomes better than gold." Even Kiyosaki flipped bullish + clarity act passing will finally give guidance to institutions that legally cannot buy BTC today. $140T in institutional capital means even a 1% allocation = $1.4T chasing <2M Bitcoin on exchanges. BTC is severely undervalued and most will get left behind again. "If it’s not going to zero, it’s going to a million." - Saylor

MF_Price

It's the fanatics and their decade long campaign against BTC. I was very early on nano. Got in when it was still $30 a coin (LOL). Eventually the crazy BTC hate drove me away anyway.

angelwolf71885

Excitement because it means BTC is going on discount but i only get truly excited if BTC drops to $45k my last DCA I won’t buy if it’s above my DCA

Practical-Cod-4528

With a 21 mill cap, How the fuk was BTC going to be anything other than an inflationary asset? The “tech” around crypto is a gimmick, it was all a get rich scheme from the beginning.

Poison_Jaguar

Depends on it's use vs other mechanisms, pay exchange , goes up , pay exchange cash out. Same for loss, exchange wins Coinbase lost a lot recently as the trading was not as they thought it would be, most BTC transactions these days are off chain and leverage. If you want to risk it then use some money you would have spent on alcohol or mcdonalds for a month, invest that , see how you feel, apart from healthier :)

sspecialists

This is exactly how BTC looks like.

Dr_Porknbeef

The future of crypto is micropayments between AI agents. SOLANA is, as far as my limited experience indicates, the right fit for that use case for the speed, volume, and security required. Plus, staking provides an incentive to provide liquidity. Whatever the future of person-to-person payment is, I can only say that BTC is not it and human transactions will not match a fraction of machine-to-machime transactions in the very new future.

uamdarasulka

Quick context on how the data works: the arcs you see on the map are pulled from real exchange flow APIs — when BTC moves from cold storage into Binance, that shows as an inflow arc. The signal panel aggregates the directional bias across all tracked assets. Happy to explain any specific part of it.

Seattleman1955

I put a lot into Bitcoin 4 years ago after I sold some land. It declined 70%. I didn't like it but I was prepared for it. Eventually I was up more than double. I sold a little at the end of 2025 (planned) and I planned to sell a little in 2026 and hold the majority. Gold went up, BTC didn't. My QQQ outperformed BTC over those 4 years. Now I've sold it all with an 85% gain over 4 years. The risk/reward isn't worth it (to me) and I have change my outlook for how I expect Bitcoin to perform in the future. So, no, when the market drops I don't feel anything anymore.:)

rosarino356

Why would whales dump now instead of when BTC was at $120k?

Grunblau

I did the math and decided not to sell. One thing you have going for you is long term hold vs short term if you sold and bought back in. I am almost back down to my cost basis. Last cycle, I went below my cost basis and went up to almost 200%. Keep staking if in alts… self custody if in BTC.

bbatardo

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't bank on waiting to buy 20k BTC.

Ace369779

I think the fees are already too high As for does BTC survive, absolutely it’s the main future in the space. No assets no business no revenue, limited to 21M and totally unique. Long term buy

GalaxyDefender1x

I guess it all depends on how much you depend on that BTC doing good or not. If you are doing OK in life economically. Then those ups and downs dont really affect your quality of life. That is what I would think. And people that are truly afraid, then they put money they shouldnt into crypto. I feel like I am gambling at a casino with BTC. That is how I treat it. And I always lose at the casino. The same has happened to me with BTC. However.. I still think it will go up and I will get my money back.

dew1803

Strike and Coinbase are just a couple of places that do BTC backed loans. Definitely read the pros/cons so you understand what you’re doing before you do it.

GalaxyDefender1x

my understanding is that you have to use other network for daily uses.. because the BTC network is expensive to use. that is my experience and I have almost none. I know that there is a way to move x to y and then buy on antoher network.. but that is still above my pay grade.

jasomniax

BTC fear and greed index is at 7/100... So could be good time to buy

dew1803

Borrow against the BTC and pay it back when house sells instead of selling/buying back. Avoid the taxable events altogether.

baIIern

Not surprisingly, r/BTC told you to buy BCH. This place has been taken over by Bitcoin Cash cultists. Waste of time there ;) r/Bitcoin can help best, I suppose.

waterbeetlemo

Japan trip. Invest in yourself and experience first. BTC when you have extra cash to spare.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin sell pressure has eased as deposits to centralized exchanges have decreased, dropping from 60,000 BTC to 23,000 BTC on average. However, large investors, or whales, continue to sell, with 64% of exchange inflows attributed to the top 10 depositors. This trend suggests a shift in market dynamics, with long-term holders transferring Bitcoin to new owners. Despite a recent price drop to $67,582, CryptoQuant predicts a potential bear market bottom around $55,000, with limited stablecoin reserves available to drive a price rally. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Ok-Meaning-7061

Bottom will come Q4. I’m expecting 50k BTC maybe a bit lower . This is when you begin to DCA. Unless the super cycle scenario people are talking about play out and we see a rebound to 85k+ this spring and the bullrun continues

MrTenDollarMan-

There is guy who makes prosecutions for BTC for the last 10 years and he was never wrong. When it was 119k he said (back in October or something) that we re going down to 66k in jan-feb and he explained why. His latest prediction ( a couple of days ago) is 58k then pump to 85k and from there down to 40k and potentially next year 200k. Let's wait and see what happens.

PuzzleheadedFly1381

Tech, monad is Vitalik’s latest vision for ETH if you follow what he says (though imo it feels like he is actually signaling he does not want to build anymore and wants to sit on the sidelines, make commentary and be rich). Also I remember layer2’s were part of his old vision, hmmmm. Personally think EVM is the most important part of ETH and whoever masters EVM use is the real longterm “winner” in a pool of EVM chains that can co-exist and all be profitable. But what do I know I just own BTC, ETH, sol, Hyper, link, Trac, and Monad. Maybe I’m dumb... Though isn’t going through life dumb better than being smart and living among a bunch of dummies?

Conscious-Quail-3414

in BTC we trust)

SeaworthinessSad7300

Seems too soon. I don't think people are interested in BTC to be honest

CodeXploit1978

Copium. Alts were a solid idea. Nothing came of that. BTC might have some value for a while but eventually i think it will fail too. When i dont know but i believe it will.

Fishherr

HyperLiquid, BTC & ETH Send dogshit to 0, stop sucking liquidity & retail traders outta the system.

willofscott

Understood, but thats the point, no matter what you can’t reverse course on waiting, forced to figure out other solutions as if the BTC doesn’t exist. Let it appreciate with no other expense messing it up. When there is money available, life has a way of finding a way it should be spent.

Low_Carpet9764

I likely have more gold than most if not all of the gold people shitting on BTC on here so it’s funny when they actually think it will outdo bitcoin long term.. a significantly less manipulated, easier to pump asset.

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No_Flow_6962

If you subtract the BTC that people lost access to it’s even less than 21m.

No_Flow_6962

I’m going to keep stacking… I don’t have any faith in an asset I don’t have control of. The bs they were pulling during the GameStop squeeze was a huge wake up call to me about investing in stocks. Additionally, you’re probably just giving vanguard, state street, black rock etc more voting rights. I’m investing in BTC, a house, guns, and chickens.

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

People who struggle to put food on the table were never the people who were going to move BTC lol

davie18

Yeah and the key word being ‘slightly’. An economy would be absolutely chaotic if the currency/money that is used is volatile. Whether that means the price going up or down rapidly. And I mean bitcoin will never become money in that sense because there are too many huge issues with it, in terms of how long payments take, cost of payments etc, they are problems that can never be fixed with BTC imo. I see people comparing BTC with fiat currency a lot and it’s been the same in the crypto space for a long time but it doesn’t really make sense to me. BTC isn’t competing with fiat currency, it’s competing against other investment opportunities, be that single stocks, index funds, real estate etc. People buy BTC as an investment 99% of the time. 99% of the time when people buy fiat currency it’s not for investment (except for forex traders who wood be the 1%).

Elendron

Mate USD and BTC/ crypto been dropping harmoniously for weeks now

blvrg

While your statement also makes sense, regarding Bitcoin and sentiment I’d really advise you to make some research, and this website is not actually selling you cheap BTC but information. It’s worth taking a look.

BroScience2025

BTC, ETH, and 3/4 of the crypto-sphere can be influenced for far more money with similar or less vibes.

elixon

You need to provide goods and services and require crypto as payment. That way, you get 100 percent anonymous crypto. You simply have to start operating in crypto and deal exclusively in crypto. That's the idea behind crypto. If you are using it to exchange between fiat and crypto, then yes, fiat is tied to deanonymization. But that is not how BTC was meant to be used, and the flaw is not Bitcoin’s. The issue lies with fiat and its inherent problems, not with Bitcoin.

findingkieron

I believe this was not a hack a different token was supposed to be given out but BTC was sent instead most was still on the exchange only 25 minutes had gone past before it was returned any one who cashed out or moved from the exchange got to keep it although the government did ask for it back. Only the coin still on the exchange was recovered.

s1ngletrashboy

Can't even argue with you there, the ETH/BTC chart has been absolute torture to watch. You are 100% right to be skeptical after 4 years of "next week is altseason" false alarms. But the reason alts keep bleeding is that we've just been recycling the exact same dry liquidity back and forth. ETF approvals and rate pauses don't print new money. A sudden $150B refund hole forces the Fed to actually inject *fresh* capital into the system. But yeah, I completely agree with you. until the ETH/BTC ratio actually prints a higher high and shows real strength, it's all just macro theory.