BTC

Money-King8153

🖐️ that’s me! Come on 50k BTC! I hold 10% of my portfolio at any price and Add to it up 20% on dips. Always a toe in the water no matter what.

Schindlers_Cat

I have a price target for BTC. If it reaches that, maybe I buy some. Who cares, it's a risky investment among a pool of many other investments. What I love is watching people who full send and then start sweating. Maybe it goes up and you get more bananas. Maybe it goes down more and you have less bananas for a bit.

Cute_Style3598

Summarizing this thread...BTC rises above 70k as all the cheapskates waiting for sub 50k sub 40k sub 30k! lol start to squirm..

FlagFootballSaint

Same thoughts here. If you zoom out what he does makes no sense in the long run. There is no end game in this.  In the end he will need to start selling BTC to pay dividends. That‘s gambling with money from others

rmn_swiss

I agree. I would buy tokens like $BTC, some $ETH and $SOL. I just put a small money into my fun tokens / memes / casino tokens :-D

Seattleman1955

Probably because when you don't, BTC doesn't have a very good return. QQQ has beat it since 2021.

staywoakes1

Saylor will hold 1m BTC by the end of the year

Ok-Pea4148

100$ a week for 26 years is - 595,355 $ if BTC performs 10%/year on average - 1,368,006 $ if it performs 15%/year on average - 3,222,933 $ if it performs 20%/year on average For your information 🙂

GPThought

cardano is the poster child for why you should never fall in love with a project. the tech roadmap sounds amazing on paper but the market doesnt care about academic papers and peer-reviewed research when there's nothing built on it that people actually use. compare the TVL - ETH has $50B+ locked in defi, SOL has billions, cardano has like $300M after years of promises. at some point you gotta judge projects by what they shipped not what they plan to ship. the $1000 to $312 lesson: never go all-in on a single alt. spread across BTC + 2-3 alts max and accept that some will die.

Shoe-dog1348

BTC: Feb 2027-110K, FEB 28-185K, FEB 29, 230K

TheMuel7

Good on you for investing early, not many people do this at your age. Down the track you should consider diversifying your portfolio. Look into some managed funds, in different regions of the world (markets react differently, have money in different parts of the world If able) - (vangaurd, QQQ etc) Posting in BTC reddit will probably be an echo chamber. Get advice elsewhere too. I am long on BTC, but would never advise my 14 yr old son to put all his money into BTC alone. Good on you for doing something with your money at 14, not many/ if any people your age do this. But remember investing is a long term thing, not a get rich quick thing, keep plugging away and you will be ahead of most people when you are 30

Socalwarrior485

Every company in the US already do this for all cash and cash equivalents. In other words, all currencies. It’s called mark to market. Even MSTR had to do this with their BTC

BestialitySurprise

Overleveraging is what lead to the great depression. Going all-in with money that isn't yours is dangerous. Some assets do collapse completely and it doesn't take complete collapse to wipe you out if debt is involved; I've been there. I don't think BTC is one of those assets that's going to collapse. But the price swings will eventually subside once it becomes widely used. It will at some point lose its appeal to the risk takers.

Backyard45

It was YOU! Thanks forvolunteering to be the scapegoat of this current day tragedy known as Bitcoin. While we're at it... I don't suppose youve recently run into Nancy Guthrie, have you? What's your BTC wallet? 😂 [An abduction, a Bitcoin demand and a TV icon](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y48j0exlgo)

usedmattress85

You say “patterns and halving cycles blah blah blah” as if they haven’t played out exactly as predicted. That’s the point. BTC has never found the bottom of the bear until it blows through the realized price and touches the balanced price, and until the measurement of BTC holders in profit and loss have crossed over among various other metrics. Acting like those metrics are meaningless is absurd, they are very very strong patterns which you can use to guide you. If you want to blah blah blah patterns this strong go ahead but there’s no need to be rude to people who are actually attempting to offer you solid advice.

nugymmer

It only applies to BTC, not alts.

Seattleman1955

What is Bitcoin or what is Fidelity? Fidelity is a brokerage account. You can also buy BTC directly or even transfer in your own BTC.

Shikamaru1389

I started with BTC last year I just mine for shits and giggles how does a paper wallet work . Which exchanges do they work with . CAn I just do like a regular transfer from coinbase or kraken . Where I go send and scan QR code . Also I read that the pad key you create offline I know nothing about wallets and storage the only one I know how to use is coinbase

Safe-Painter-9618

only 25% of my investments go to BTC. 70% VOO the other 5% is US bonds

GPThought

crowded shorts are literally free money for market makers. they just need to push price up 2-3% and the cascade of liquidations does the rest. last time shorts were this extreme BTC went from 26k to 48k in like two months. im not saying history repeats exactly but the setup is almost identical. record short interest + fear index in the teens + ETF inflows still positive = one hell of a squeeze brewing. not financial advice but if i was short btc right now i would not be sleeping well.

subcrtical

lol. Let’s watch BTC halve in value, then talk to me about all those potential buyers.

theincognito66

We're still so early... think about what the next 10 years will do to the value of the dollar. BTC will continue to be an attractive way to combat inflation. There's going to be 3 halvings between now and the end of 2036... 99.6% of BTC will have been mined by then. There will hopefully be more mass adoption and use in daily transactions, strengthening its usability as a currency. I'm extremely optimistic of things to come here.

Unable_Illustrator_2

Most of the pl saying they are waiting for 30k BTC are ppl who won't even buy there because they are probably perma bears. Anyone that is actually truly interested in BTC will just keep scaling in.

Narf234

Which direction has BTC gone since its inception? If you see anything other than up and to the right, you’re holding your computer wrong.

mrgoodcat1509

Above $69420: bullish Valhalla and $1MM BTC awaits!!! Below $69420: bearish revisiting COVID prices

Left_Entrepreneur918

If I were to sell a few BTC it would skyrocket

GreenStretch

Ideally, all his assets will be seized for the US Sovereign Wealth Fund, including any good cryptos like BTC and ETH.

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC ESD (every single day)

picircle

Sell now or go broke! BTC is a scam. It fooled all people. AI and quantum computing will break the algorithm in no time! It will be $55k next week and then a crash!

rmn_swiss

Yeah, I generally agree. I still expect lower prices from here. My base case is that $BTC puts in its low sometime over the next six months, give or take, while $ETH, $SOL, and other alts continue to lag behind $BTC. Bitcoin usually finds its footing first. The rest of the market tends to follow with a delay. That’s why patience and positioning matter right now.

rmn_swiss

Yeah, I wouldn’t try to catch a falling knife either. It also makes sense to DCA into higher-conviction, more established assets first, like $BTC, then $ETH and $SOL, before moving further out on the risk curve into L1 ecosystem tokens or memes.

BlazeDemBeatz

I started and got interested in investing when the housing market crashed in 2008. I’d say discipline is earned with time. I remember being impatient. By the time I got into crypto I had it all out of my system. Last cycle when FTX crashed and BTC went back down to like 15k I was buying everything I could afford to lose. I was in the red like most others were. Upped my DCA, Held and didn’t touch. When we cracked a new ATH I quit buying. When we hit 100k plus I started DCA out. Bought a second home. Bought 2 new cars. Last year was a really good year. Now prices are back down, fear and greed it at the bottom. Hope to repeat the process.

Vegetable_Peanut2166

There’s no clear series of events if quantum breaks. That said if you never spent you’d probably be fine for that wallet. Your only at risk if you expose your key to the network (send BTC)

Express-Economist-86

I may be an island on this sub but I love the GoMining app. I’ve bought what I’ve bought, I get BTC every 24 hours, never had a problem, and because it represent a miner, when price goes down and smaller operations turn off, I just get more BTC from the adjustment. I just did my numbers, it’s 4,400 SATS more than January, same TH, I’m ahead of my self-imposed growth schedule Usual disclaimer: if you do it, best return rate is by maxing discounts, then just chilling. It’s not for making a quick buck - probably like 2.5 years unless BTC goes crazy… but since I bought the equipment, I get to do what’s a little like DCA but every day, pre-invested. Just works for me, I’ve sold on peaks before and regretted in a few months. With the app I just stack.

Ragnogrimmus

It will moon in June. Most likely, it depends on inflationary concerns. BTC may drop to lows in the 30 to 40k region for a few months. Watch the Moon in June. If its hanging low in May, a good time to take a chance.

No-Masterpiece2246

I was told by rBitcoin Maxies that rBtc is a scam, here we are 2 years later and BCH has 5xed. BTC 0.5xed.

Ragnogrimmus

Its not dead, its a money maker and it exists to broaden investment opportunities. Crypto currency is a poor name. It just sounds good. They are crypto assets and BTC will remain. It makes sense for it to remain. But with that said some assets will disappear, BTC will continue to grow albeit not the 49'ers gold rush level. But by all means sell off all your crypto do you by any chance have short position? If so you may do alright over the next couple of months. Wouldnt hold short to long though. BTC was climbing back up to 100,000 and higher right as the president threatened the EU with higher tarrifs. And Venezuela and the take Greenland by force as a new fissure in a glacier just ripped open. 14 million years ago Greenland was a sub tropical island with similar amounts of co2. -_0

No-Masterpiece2246

The scaling FUD never ends. As if BTC ever scaled? XMR current;y has 200x the capacity of BTC. FCMP can reduce the capacity but it'll still be 50x that of BTC.

LAOGE1

Satoshi Nakamoto's original intention in creating Bitcoin was: to establish a global electronic cash system that could circulate peer-to-peer, independent of banks or governments, using decentralized cryptographic technology. Early email records show that Satoshi Nakamoto was more concerned with: Technical feasibility System stability Security rather than price appreciation. At the time, 1 BTC had almost no value. The first real transaction was in 2010 when someone used 10,000 BTC to buy a pizza.

regalrecaller

1m BTC is 1/22 of the entire supply, no?

hduynam99

nah just BTC & ETH for now

Numerous_Ruin_4947

It probably does not take a lot to move ZEC. There's less ZEC in supply than BTC.

FattLippo

Yup, might get 55-60, but won’t see sub 50k BTC again.

matthegc

I’ll be buying everyday, don’t care why the price is. The decision is simple, I exchange my centrally controlled fiat for decentralized BTC. The exchange rate is just lower than it has been in the last couple years….so seems like a good exchange rate.

OPrudnikov

But isn’t BTC without owners will be taken in that case and it will crush the market anyway? I am bot sure I understand how it can be prevented

More_Ad3831

You are correct on what you say but let me tell you that the metrics that I have take are not from the actual price of BTC but there are from multiple On chain Indicators with actual regressions.

The_Bitcoin_Act

Can you specify what you’re trying to do with your coins? And what is your jurisdiction? Because I can’t give you an informed opinion without those details. I just can tell you to use a P2P platform to buy your BTC if you just want to HODL.

xkemex

Exactly this type of people that buy BTC at 30K and sold at 35K

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sleepwalker_SG

The overall market valuation is too high; waiting for BTC to further drop, along with a potential correction in AI stocks, could be a wise choice for new entries 😈

vortexcortex21

"this is literally what the bitcoin maximalists predicted would happen and its playing out in real time" What are you talking about? Please state exactly which nation state has BOUGHT BTC within the last twelve months. Bought - not planned, or annouced, or thought about it.

mandressta

I started buying in 2020. During the 2022 bear market I didn’t sell. I analyzed that afterward and decided that next cycle I would take partial profits or hedge instead of round-tripping again. I also staggered buys during that bear at 40k, 30k and 20k — ~27k average. In 2025 I prepared and tracked the market closely for about three months before selling when it met my criteria. I sold 50% at a 121k average. The cornerstone was cycle structure. Prior BTC cycles pointed to a likely Q4 post-halving top as the base case. Once that window was in play, it came down to price structure and sentiment aligning. Six years of investing helps a lot— it sharpens pattern recognition and feeds intuition. My confidence wasn’t 100%. It was ~50–60%. Position sizing reflects conviction. You don’t need certainty — just analysis, discipline, and execution.

Dom_Dastardly

BTC will never go to 1M with Saylor holding the amount that he does.

Ricard0CB

I won't rest until I have 1 BTC

Albert-camus95

BTC is gonna pump to 200k very soon. Michael Sailor and Larry Fink are gonna steal all the remaining BTC from you poor retailers. Soon there is not gonna be a single one left for you. I just sold my kidney to buy one more bitcoin 

Albert-camus95

BTC is gonna pump to 200k very soon. Michael Sailor and Larry Fink are gonna steal all the remaining BTC from you poor retailers. Soon there is not gonna be a single one left for you 

ThePugz

Those people are horrible for BTC anyway. 100% looking for it to be a pump & dump. I buy all the time. With this drop I’ve gone from $25 a day to $100 a day. Goes lower I have reserves to buy even bigger amounts. I’ll keep it at $100 a day probably until it returns to $80K then return to my $25 per day.

dweeegs

Thankfully someone’s always there to save us from BTC going over 70k

NOIRCEUR_TRADING

Show us your full BTC liquidations, current holdings, and short position then.

defeater33

Don't use leverage in crypto 😭. It already has volatility. Swing trading ETH or BTC is safer way. But expect to hold for a year or more per trade.

crakinshot

I mean it not difficult when clearly there are participants doing 100x+ leverage... Its actually insane. You can see it happening via aggr trade (aggregates all the futures markets); BTC does +2%, then -1% and _somehow_ that -1% liquidates loads of positions.

defeater33

The difference between bid and ask might be large. Never use leverage. Buy into ETH and or BTC with 90% of your investment money. Use the monthly candle chart to find low area. Buy and hold till it hits highs. Expect to hold for a year or two. Less if your lucky but don't expect it.

Objective-Choice6518

People hate BTC sellers... Specially when they sell at the right time, because back then they were yelling "you gonna regret It!! diamond hands here!!!"

Key-Lie-364

There is a huge support at 60k, which was the previous ATH before crashing to 18k. Waiting for 50k shows you don't understand the importance of the 60k support level. BTC hit 60k and bounced right off of it. Unlikely to be this low again. The fomo buying will be after the halving in 2028

IPconfigEARTH

It does... cause it's implying that one day, when Fiat is eventually burnt. ANd it already burns at an inflation rate. 100% eventual collapse of each currency, unless major interventions (unlikely), every currency will collapse by design. Its a longer-term view, but we have to live in today and manage our daily expenses as smaller people here. Big banks, and big traders, big analysts are not here. They are comfortable in their fat salaries and comfortable life. We have to plan for ourselves and our kids. Yes... 1BTC = 1BTC - Cause when that time comes. We won't have to think about the dollar equivalant price. Sorry for the long explanation. Like always, common people cannot assemble in groups. BTC is the only transparent monetary system.

PrincipleLife6553

> I'm stressed eating cereal at 2am watching candles bleed maybe BTC is not for you, bro.. it's a long-term game

kingcakeaholic

It costs ~$70,000 to mine one BTC. It won’t go much lower than that for long.

IPconfigEARTH

Yes... 1BTC = 1BTC

Hot_Philosopher3199

Me. Tons of other investments that will most likely outperform BTC. I sold in Sept and will roll back in sub-50k. Otherwise my other investments will run fine

Free-Employment2885

Yeah man, don’t get caught up in this shit show. Like I said, over 90% of people in crypto lose money. The fact that you’re only 16 and trying to invest is amazing. Start investing in the stock market, and hold a little BTC and maybe Eth and Sol if you insist. By the time you’re 26, you could be rich or very close to it. Just keep putting money into the market every time you get paid. You got this.

New-Key2301

Most likely will not hit as the average cost of BTC is 58 and its be hard to break this number

JC-Coelho

From my point of view, daily DCA is usually better because it reduces timing risk, not because of fees. With monthly buys you’re making one big bet on a single day’s price. If the market spikes, your whole entry is worse. Daily buys spread your exposure across many price points, which smooths volatility — and that matters a lot with Bitcoin over time. People tend to overfocus on commissions and underfocus on behavior. Daily DCA builds consistency and removes emotion. The small extra fees are often negligible compared to long-term upside. If fees feel high, it’s better to switch to a cheaper platform than reduce frequency. Monthly optimizes fees. Daily optimizes risk and discipline. For long-term BTC, risk control usually wins.

isaaclazrisec

BTC only is a strong path. The biggest mistake I see beginners make is rushing the transfer without testing the receive address first. When you get your hardware wallet, do a small send → wipe → recover test. It builds real confidence. If you want, I can share the exact checklist I used when I moved to self custody.

mothsoft

appreciate your tips greatly! sounds like a solid plan. i am planning to go forward with BTC only, Fidelity was to get started

Mental-Confection-77

As per the graph and cycle, people are getting in on lowest prices, yes majority can’t get in but equity is accumulated slowly when people buy it at lowest prices, and people who are predicting 40K range is information based Scenario MVRV Target Implied BTC Price Mild capitulation zone ~0.90 ~$50k Strong capitulation zone ~0.75 ~$42k Extreme capitulation zone ~0.50 ~$28k Full cost-basis recovery (neutral) ~1.0 ~$55k

JeremyLinForever

They’ll FOMO in when BTC rises 10x in a year and hits $700k.

isaaclazrisec

Nice, that’s a solid move. Moving from custodial to self custody is the big step. Start simple: • Buy a hardware wallet • Write the seed phrase on paper (never digital) • Test with a small amount first Are you planning to go full BTC only or keep using Fidelity for exposure?

mothsoft

i’m brand new, tbh have only purchased BTC stock with fidelity crypto. now, i am wanting to truly buy coin for the purpose of long time storage. i appreciate the recommendation on where to go!

funbike

My strategy: invest into a regular index fund, like QQQ or even TQQQ. When BTC crashes, which it always eventually does, DCA to BTC. DCA back to the index fund after BTC is back at prior ATH.

TheresNoSecondBest

It's a 2019 meme. It started by the Twitter persona known as AmericanHodl. It was in response to this tweet from CZ, the CEO of Binance. He suggested that owning just 1 BTC would place someone in the top 0.3% richest people in Bitcoin terms. https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1165533865554804739?s=21 The response was that “If you own 6.15 BTC, you are guaranteed to get eternal riches and big titty bitches."

JC-Coelho

I had 3 BTC back in 2022. I bought them pretty much at the bottom when price was around 22k. Then I waited like a year and sold at 57k (way too early looking back now). After that I rotated everything into small cap alts hoping to make more Xs. At one point my portfolio was up like +500%, and I kept holding because I was waiting for the big bull rally and thought the shitcoins would fly even higher. Then dump one, dump two, dump three… and I was basically left with almost none of the original capital. Now I’ve rethought a lot of things. I kind of repackaged all those mistakes into lessons. I’m much more clear about what you can do in crypto and what you really shouldn’t do if you actually want to keep your money.

isaaclazrisec

Glad it helped. Are you using BTC long term storage or multi-asset?

TheresNoSecondBest

>Can any of you ever have enough bitcoin? If so, how much? Exactly 6.15 BTC. You're welcome.

blue123405

Exactly if BTC doesn’t drop to 35k for my entry point I’m good with not investing in this asset class at all.

vulnid

Personally, I do not hold more than a few hundred dollars of BTC on exchanges and transfer it to my cold wallet. These companies literally do not have a safety net or any FDIC, so you're basically fucked if they disappear

ManiacXaq

LOL. BTC is a Wallstreet JOKE now too

Dom_Dastardly

Yea, BTC bottom definitely not in.

EmbarrassedFoot1137

So let's say the USA controls every single BTC. What changes tomorrow?

mandressta

Congrats to you as well! I first started learning about BTC in 2017/18 too but i missed the boat back then. It wasn't until 2020 that i started investing

ZacTheOriginal

Bought very first BTC on Paxful... then sent it to AlphaBay....

sheldonmeetshomer

I agree. I doubt it’s bottomed, but the level of support from hodlers, corporations, institutions and governments can’t be ignored. Sentiment is in the dumpster, but BTC is stronger than ever.

setokaiba22

Altcoins are an even bigger risk than BTC, ETH. It’s a gamble

mandressta

I started investing (including in crypto) in 2020. During the 2022 bear market i didn't sell, I analyzed that, understood it was the wrong decision for me, and decided next cycle i would either sell out partially or short (to cover). I bought BTC at 40k, 30k, and 20k during that bear market, 27k average price. During 2025, i analysed, planned and tracked the market carefully for about three months until the sale, when it met my criteria (and guts) I sold (50% of my postion) at 121k average.

Blade_Runner_69

Metamask has started a BTC wallet just recently

Blade_Runner_69

Yeah, ledger is not the best, trezor and cold card are the ones imho, especially for BTC only wallets.

MinerHead

Look at its BTC and ETH markets…40% different in July 2025 prices

ScotchBourbonMezcal

In Cyprus, Limassol specifically, there is a cafe I like to go to, it's Russian Owned, and they take BTC, USDT as payment. There are a couple more listed, but I can't remember. There was also property for sale above the shops which they would also take payment in crypto for.

Slow-Cycle9522

would only be worried about ADA, just stop looking at the price every day and keep going with ur life eventually one month it's gonna blow up X3 or x10 for no reason that's when you get out eventually, when it feels really painful it's a good spot to DCA eth and BTC because they are majors and won't go to zero. remember eth 2030 cycle target is 16k in theory...

oki_sauce

Like less than 1% of BTC transactions are for illegally activity. Still a huge common misconception i hear about bot being able to trace payments and that 50% of all transactions are illegal on BTC.

Covid19-Pro-Max

The guy doesn’t know shit but your argument is flawed. Of course his interests would line up with his beliefs. Would you trust him more if he said that and was shorting BTC?