BTC

92sheran

Yes I converted 90% of my Alts to BTC 2 last 1-2 years, I sleep much better now

Spare-Eye4854

no se si sea posible usarla como colateral para shortear la propia xrp, estarias apostando a que siga callendo entonces aliviaria la perdida masomenos asi como con btc/usdc se usa el usdc como la moneda con la que operas (futuros) se puede invertir para usar el BTC como colateral. no estoy del todo seguro como funciona recuerdo haberlo escuchado de algun trader de youtube pero siempre es bueno que ivestiges por tu cuenta

Zhytaleks

X for breaking news, Reuters for reality, Reddit for the comments, and YouTube when I’m in the mood to be told BTC is going to $1M next Tuesday.

One-Adhesiveness-138

I converted most of my pile to BTC during the last run up. Left around 10% to keep running - most of which was purchased at 20-30 cents

WhaleWilliam

Just curious but how does anyone know you have Bitcoin. I just pretend not to have money. Even if I had a 100 BTC no one would know

olivehue1

So when you send your btc to liquid and withdraw to your hard wallet, it’s in L-BTC right? So then would you send L-BTC from your hard wallet back to Liquid and convert to BTV and send back to your hard wallet as BTC? Is that how it works? Sorry for dumb question, but it’s the first time hearing about Liquid thanks to you. 🙏

The_Law_Dog_IV

Why not sell enough for just 20% down and finance the house like the rest of us? Rates aren't great but they aren't bad either. Sell someore and put in a S&P etf to cover payments and keep 4 or 5 for the potential BTC boom.

Megg187

You don’t owe you just let the bank hold the BTC while you buy it back without the tax implications

MoneyComesWithTime

You sold It at the right time! BTC is going down to 25k soon

Wise_Owl3777

BTC VS XRP... no contest XRP wins over the long haul...... can we look at the xrp token then as it is now defined as a commodity as more of a collatoral build out for institutions so they can utilize the low cost of sending money and as such it will have a rise in value similar to gold

Low_Rip1724

Buy BTC! TAKE LOANS IF YOU HAVE TO

Patrick_Atsushi

I mean dips, Pardon me for my English. This is the XRP/BTC graph. I check all ALTs in this way since I aim for more BTC. The 4 low "valleys" are all on either Oct 1st or Apr 1st, not sure why. One can try to buy near the lows and sell when it hikes / recovers for gain in BTC. That means you outperforms BTC. https://preview.redd.it/i6iwb67r5vjh1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20c06bde2c98454ffcf36bc81a8f5d1089b7c6bb

Nathaniel_Sparky500

\>This foresight and insane ability to convince normal people im right in matters of facts and logic led me to convince most of my friends and family to leverage assets to borrow cash to buy BTC at 104k. \>they are NOT happy right now and liquidity is at an all time low in my friend group and family This is excellent satire. I hope.

SolidSky

Swapped everything for BTC and ETH a while back.

JakobBowser

Why get anything other than BTC? Xrp is a scam, company owns more than 50% of the supply

deleted-_-alt

Just like BTC you can’t predict life, the stacking continues

ikkiyikki

In your portfolio asides from the bit of BTC only ALGO has a compelling case as an all around better crypto.

FalconPunch277

BTC simply it's functionality. What does this mean? BTC is a secure way to transfer money globally and digitally without governments, banks, corporations, or billionaires being able to stop the transactions.

__TrendTrader__

Buy $BTC at $50k in October

Patrick_Atsushi

Check the XRP-BTC chart. If is going to have another valley one can possibly have 200% gain over BTC while BTC still grows. 

MiaTaude589

Honestly, a deadman’s email alone feels too fragile for BTC inheritance. I’d leave the hardware wallet and clear recovery instructions in one secure place, then keep the seed phrase separately with legal access for your wife after death. Also make her do one small recovery test now, because instructions nobody has tested can turn into lost coins fast

logavulin16

LTC is a relic from a philosophy that turned out to be wrong. BTC was initially thought of as a very cheap, P2P cash exchange; something you would use to buy a pizza. All of the alt coins bet on being faster and cheaper. They all lost. The philosophy evolved. BTC still offers P2P freedom, but its philosophy and use have evolved.

never_safe_for_life

A little dense, huh? Makes sense. Look, you bought Litecoin because it was cheaper than Bitcoin. That was your mistake. Just sell your LTC for BTC and escape from the hell of trying to pump your shitcoin one person at a time

kepalautakkau

BTC always turns into a stablecoin every weekend

kepalautakkau

well, looking at how those alts are moving compared to BTC, it feels weird not to swap most of them into BTC

Final_Bite_7228

Just before you die, sell the BTC, put the money in the bank, and write her a cheque.

xPATCHESx

The only reason more people didn't lose their entire accounts in 2008 is because governments stepped in and distorted the market by buying all the failing assets with PUBLIC money. So tax payers still took the hit. Just indirectly. The same thing will happen with the next fiat liquidity crisis - governments will print their way out of it - further diminishing the 'store of value' aspect of fiat currencies and pushing savers again toward hard currencies like BTC that can't be printed out of thin air. But yes, I agree, more needs to be done to help those who self custody crypto to manage their own assets more securely.

Kommandant_Milkshake

To sanity check myself and rethink which side of this I want to be on. It’s good to get opposing opinions on things, but in this case I think the pro BTC argument makes more sense given the current bear market. Also, every point they make against Bitcoin has been endlessly reiterated during BTCs life, and yet none of their points have ever come to fruition.

Kommandant_Milkshake

That, and gloating about how BTC is the same price as the 2021 peak as if it’s not in a bear market rn

Previous_Valuable873

At least you made one wise choice out of the three, XMR has been outperforming BTC for more than a year now, not to mention the other 2 shitcoins.

Ms_TitAdorable

The old cycle pattern may not last forever. As BTC matures, I’d expect slower but steadier growth.

Minute-Lake-1819

Hello. Litecoin was created in 2011 using most of the original bitcoin code but tweaked to improve speed, fees, mining ability. It’s one of the oldest altcoins and it’s historically been used for payments and swaps on exchanges due to its high liquidity. Its history of being digital silver to bitcoins gold is still seen today when you compare on chain data and real world payment stats. LTC is consistently at the top with BTC. But over the years LTC has innovated and now has an opt-in privacy feature called MWEB and is currently adding a programmable layer called LitVM where users can stake, play games, trade, swap, use predictions markets, trade real world assets like pokemon cards, etc. So this post was made today to state that in my opinion, the market has been wrong in its evaluation of LTC. It’s much more important to the ecosystem than most people seem to realize.

DivyLeo

TradeOgre roundtrip some crypto there (usdt or maybe usdc), exchange for BTC, move btc to wallet .. TradeOgre did not have KYC last i checked... However i didn't login in 3+ years... So don't know if they are still online

Dmarine999

There are some inaccuracies in your post. However, an underlying issue has been uncovered. BTC, itself, is trustless, but if you use a HW wallet or exchange, you are trusting those third parties have sound security in place. I'm sure I'll get downvoted like crazy, but I moved my BTC from the wallet secured by my HW device back to CB. I'd rather roll the dice on CB that a HW wallet provider that may or may not have their sh1t together.

r33gna

He sell easy dreams and simple promises, it's why he's where he is right now, the "successful" version of those crypto bro influencers. Turns out the majority today don't want to be rich/be part of tech/etc by reading the BTC white paper, learning about mining, or even just reading Bitcoin Protocol. XD

Minute-Lake-1819

Check out the original post. BTC functions first as a store of value, second as a payment method. LTC historically has been the opposite due to its additional features like MWEB, cheaper fees, quicker block times, etc. They are more of a compliment than direct competition.

Xennenial

Why do you ask? Does BTC have smart contract capability that I'm not aware of?

alien_frontier

Your post 18 days ago: “The answer, 2017. Coinbase was trending and there were only 3 coins to choose from. BTC, ETH, LTC. And I bought LTC first because it was the cheapest full coin option.” You don’t remember your own post because you share your account with other shillers?

JimmySki6166

I swapped ETH & XRP into BTC a few years back. Will only ever hold BTC for crypto! You won’t regret making this move!!

CyanDew

\>phase of adoption yeah, real adoption we’ve got here with everyone still pricing everything in dollars. i’ll keep stacking my sats until it’s used as a worldwide medium of exchange and my grandchildren can enjoy the unit of account that is hyperbitcoinization. but downvote me to hell and call me crazy all you want. Bitcoin has only just begun because there’s only 21M coins and 8B people on the planet. 1 BTC is very undervalued rn compared to a world that needs Bitcoin; and we’re living in one now.

luvscene

The BTC versus LTC utility debate is interesting, especially when people separate payments from store of value, while gamdom sits in a different part of the crypto ecosystem.

NexxiumSpin

Not going to doxx myself to win a reddit conversation, but I can look at Koinly and see the transaction, more then 8, less then 10 BTC. But please tell me about my lying eyes brother.

Aeceus33

Shit is dwindling, most volume from now on is ETFs and whales fucking and gambling with retail reactions. BTC is just another gamblers toy in our world of shiney things.

WildNight00

BTC ETH XMR and SOL I still hold but I don’t look at any of them

VeryThicknLong

Of course people come here to say this in a bear market. The truth is, BTC behaves just like the stock market, but over a shorter cycle. The stock market typically booms and busts every 17 years or something. BTC has the same boom and busts, but condensed into its own cycle.

OpticallyMosache

100% do this You can hold BTC forever and will most likely win

Appearance-Less

What garbage version of the bitcoin power law were you using? ha ha ha. Your version was off. 5 months later the support price is 62k and BTC is 63k. It's at 1%-2% quantile currently. Bitcoin has historically taken 1 year to bottom. Never sooner than about 52 weeks. But at 23 weeks you were saying it's time. Bitcoin did hit 61k in Feb but it was definitely too early to be calling a bottom based on history.

luvscene

$50 can still be a reasonable amount to start with if you accept the risk, and Gamdom is another option I’d keep separate from long term BTC investing.

JimmySki6166

Correct! One must do their own research if they are conscious enough to do it! I research any stock before purchasing. BTC is a no brainer to purchase every week. No other crypto in my eyes is worth buying.

filenotfounderror

No you didn't, when Bitmain launched its first ASIC miner, the Antminer S1, in November 2013, it was priced at 4.75 BTC for the initial batch.

sophie2701

lightning is actually pretty easy to use, most exchanges (Coinbase etc) accept lightning payment, and you can also transact from self custody wallets if you can hold liquid BTC (LBTC) on them. So you can get some LBTC through The Liquid Network (just google it and go on their web), and you can get a LBTC wallet easily through Green Wallet App (from blockstream, they also run the liquid network). If you have your LBTC on green wallet you can simply transact through lightning to any exchange or another lightning wallet (will be recieved in BTC in a matter of seconds and is much cheaper!!!)

Pugluvmeme

If that happens, my BTC will be worth $260... LFG

Minute-Lake-1819

There is literally data from companies like Bitpay, CoinGate, bitrefill and others that consistently show LTC, BTC and usdt as the most used options.

Frog-bitcoiner

Congrats! Imagine having 10 BTC on a Coldcard and now having 0 BTC and 0 house 

quintavious_danilo

I feel safer in BTC than in BRK.B

GettingFasterDude

Fact check me on this, but I think there's no limit on BTC selling, only on-chain withdrawals to your own wallet. That makes sense since on chain transactions are irreversible. But if you need money to spend, you can convert as much as you want to cash, with no limit. Still have to wait a day or two for the traditional banking system to clear it. But if you have an emergency and need cash (but don't need to transfer bitcoin itself) there's no limit.

Frog-bitcoiner

I wish I get to 10 BTC one day 

Massive-Frosting-722

The “cycles” don’t mean shit. No one knows that BTC is going to do. It could be at $16k at Christmas

jaxxon

No chance. Huge financial institutions are all-in. I was on Fidelity.com the other day and on their home page (logged in), they show key numbers like the price of oil, the price of gold, and... the price of bitcoin. Their FBTC ETF is super popular. The powers that be won't let BTC die. I can't speak for memecoins/shitcoins/etc.

Puzzleheaded-Dot-762

In 2020 I made a coinbase account for my mom and bought 400 dollars worth of BTC. It's still there. My trezor stash is still safe. Just don't buy IBIT. You can buy any other ETF 

blaivas007

XD Solana - ~25.3B transactions in 2026 Q1 alone, over 500x more. XRP - ~2.5M transactions per day, ~15x more. ETH - ~2M/day, ~10x more. BTC - ~750k/day, ~4x more. XD

bollocksgrenade

So sick of seeing this guy. No one seems to remember the days when he said "Bitcoin’s days are numbered" and comparing it to online gambling. He called BTC a speculative bubble rather than a legitimate financial technology. Now he's all in and everyone thinks he BTC's savior. BTC never needed saving.

Chuckychinster

The Epstein crowd loves BTC

Minute-Lake-1819

Where is the real world data saying people prefer to use these other coins over BTC and LTC for payments? Real companies never list these coins as their most used coins for payments. Yet they have “superior tech”

Shot_Ad2037

I’ve seen several people ask this dumb question: “wHo uSeS LiTeCoIN”? You are on the internet typing this. Use the internet and do some research on the question you’re asking. CoinGate, BitPay, and others have long had Litecoin as a top 3 payments coin along with BTC and usually a stable coin. You guys need to remove your head from the sand and actually look it up. Litecoins network usage dwarfs Zcash yet nobody would ever know because VC’s have done an incredible job marketing that absolute nonsense.

Objective-Walk6780

If I buy bitcoin at 20K and then sell it at 40K, I guarantee you it made me money. 😆 I don’t view BTC as a currency. I see it as an investment tool. No different from buying/selling stocks. 🤷🏻‍♂️

DifficultSquash1517

Probably because he owns the BTC ETF 🤷 Or maybe he wants to warn others the dangers of self-custody 🤷

Minute-Lake-1819

100%. To be clear, I don’t have a maxi mentality. I like and hold a dozen or so different cryptos. All with different utility and purpose. I happen to think there will be dozens of cryptos that end up being used in everyday life. BTC and LTC just being 2 of them. I just think this gamblers mindset has clouded peoples views. If a coin isn’t moving up in price as fast as another it does not make it ded. The story is told on chain and with real world data. Eventually the market will figure it out and stop gambling so we can have a more efficient world with crypto in it.

Siideral

Yeah I got screwed by the same scheme. Bought 5 BTC through a PayPal credit card transaction. Received them. Bought a butterfly labs rig. Paid in bitcoin. 4 month delay. Butterfly Labs made a fortune in hardware I paid for. Difficulty went up. Eventually got 1 BTC back before my rig was useless. Lost in on Mount Gox

tedusam

https://bitcoindeaths.com/ it's a website with all the people saying "crypto is dead" over the history. But despite that, BTC keeps going up in cycles.

liquid_at

As I see it, the only thing that will make us progress from this period into the next is utility and adoption. And I am sure you will agree that whatever currency will be adopted, will be the one that joins BTC in the ranks of the top tier coins. All of these projects have people behind them that want to see it succeed. All of them have their problems in their current state.

Minute-Lake-1819

You’re thinking full settlement. You can pay for something with LTC instantly if you needed to or with L2s. Now I ask, if XRP is a “good payment” network, why aren’t people using it at the levels of coins like BTC and LTC? The real world data shows these two coins and stables are always at the top. XRP has had over a decade to take over the payment market yet it hasn’t.

RlzJohnnyM

Satoshi has 1M BTC never been hacked. You are stupid

Minute-Lake-1819

1. Real business data from companies like CoinGate, Bitpay, bitrefill, others, consistently rank Litecoin a top used coin. Many companies don’t even post their data, but these are some examples of companies that do that anyone can verify. I only say this because some people don’t trust on chain transaction data to tell the story. 2. 5-15mins is too long for sure. LTC is around 2.5 mins for the first confirmation and it’s smart to wait for multiple confirmations before full settlement. For sure many new blockchains can beat this time. That’s not the point thou. Question: If you had to pay a bill would you TRUST a newer chain to pay that bill? Or would you take a look at the industry trends of downtime/hacks/pump and dumpers and say, hmmm, do I trust to send my money on these networks? Or should I use something like Litecoin that has done it safely for 15 years? It will take decades for any new coin to gain the level of trust coins like BTC and LTC have with storing and spending wealth and that’s the core point of this.

crazy19delta

$50 is a great start. Many people with large to huge crypto portfolios started out by buying $25 or $50. They got interested into BTC and the more they read, the more they learned, understood, then bought.

IAmFitzRoy

It is an investment when you have a strategy and you can read the financial statement where you put the money and have a judgment of diversification and timing. BTC is non of that, it just go up and down, it’s a casino.

WorkerPlayful4192

What is BTC if is not investment tool, like stocks, ETF-s, bonds and etc. Definitely is not currency to buy stuff.

notanigaa

I get your point. In my case, my family covers my food, education and living expenses, and the $50 is basically my own personal allowance/spending money. I wasn’t looking at it as money that I need for necessities. I mainly wanted to use a small amount to learn how Bitcoin investing works and get some experience with it. If I lose it, it won’t affect my family or my basic needs. That’s why I was considering putting it into BTC rather than just leaving it unused.

IAmFitzRoy

“decreasing return” I don’t come to the Bitcoin subreddit often but .. are still people thinking of BTC as investment??

NexxiumSpin

In 2013 I paid \~9 BTC for 10 Antminer S1’s that mined \~20 BTC before they left service. To make matters more favourable, my apartment at the time was inclusive utilities so it was all profit to me.

GoldmezAddams

$50 into anything isn't gonna do anything life changing. If BTC woke up and went off to the races and doubled in value, you'd have $100 worth. I'm not expecting that to happen tomorrow. $50 here and there can definitely add up. Long term, I'd take 80k sats over $50 cash, easily. But if it's your last and only $50, I'd probably just keep it cash to preserve the near term optionality, while I figured out my income/expense situation and tried to formulate a more comprehensive long term saving and investing strategy once I was in a position where income > expenses.

Minute-Lake-1819

The common complaint is price related. If the market valued hashrate, adoption, transactions, real usage, signs of any type of actual growth, they would see LTC is up there with BTC and others. The question then becomes, well, if LTC is up there in these metrics, why is it devalued compared to the rest of the industry? That’s why I think the markets had it wrong for years

Dani_Bolsa

Yeah, that gold move is the part people skip over. A \~5x repricing in a scarce asset didn't need hyperinflation, just capital rotating into something with a fixed supply, so the math for BTC at $1M is not automatically the apocalypse scenario people want it to be. That's also why I care more about real buying power than the headline number, which is the same reason I keep some capital on 50K Trade for sizing into moves without needing a huge account.

MohanMma2034

Put it in other smaller coins, even it BTC hits 200k, $50 wouldn't make that match.

JimmySki6166

Great post! I’ve been purchasing BTC weekly for about 4.5 yrs, and a few of my buddies say I’m wasting money! I’ll have the last laugh when BTC increases soon!!

Fluffy-Insurance-500

I’ve started following a few alternative coins just to diversify. Maybe it’s time to explore beyond BTC and ETH?

throwawayainteasy

> Either BTC and LTC go to near zero, or LTC catches up to BTC in usd term Or LTC goes to zero and BTC does whatever BTC does regardless of what happens with LTC. No one gives a shit about LTC. The market doesn't have to value LTC just because you do.

Few-Engineering9803

The dollar has lost 96% of it's value since inception, while BTC has gone up 6,900,000,000% since the start. I think I'll stick with saving in BTC, while I spend the fake one.

Express-Economist-86

In my early days I lost a couple hundred dollars of BTC on a hot wallet, but after learning and planning from that and comparing it to what I learned and planned in college, I decided it was acceptable tuition. I am but a peasant income-wise, so it stung, but I didn’t die, so it’s not over yet. Instead of simply BTC maxing and holding, I moved into (mainly BTC backed, but still quite diversified) dividend-paying stock. I then learned about President Trump’s “big beautiful bill” which has 100% depreciation on new equipment, and got into physical and NFT hosted miners for some steady gains under a business license. The NFT miners don’t qualify for the same depreciation schedule, those are over 15 years but that’s alright, it offsets taxes paid on daily mining income when I file. Back to the brokerage, I use income from my daily-dividend payer (STRC) to buy BTC in my broker (yeah it’s not my keys - but I move it out when it looks like a scary amount to lose) whenever my in-broker stack says my BTC is down. If BTC is up, I don’t buy it that day, surely one of my diverse dividend-payers is down? I get that instead, and have a commitment to myself to do so every paycheck from working. I estimate I’ve added a bit over a month of cash flow to my year (at a hourly rate I’m ok with) in my dividends, and that’s made it so much easier to stay the course on BTC ventures. Basically feels like free money, and since I’m only buying BTC or elements of my dividend basket (as either turns red), my cost basis is always decreasing and I’m almost daily a little better.

Previous_Valuable873

I don't see what's the problem in highlighting THE YEAR every coin has been bleeding massively alongside BTC, where BTC itself was crumbling...

Minute-Lake-1819

I’m not ignoring that data. It’s true, other networks are competing for payments. But the real world data from Bitpay, CoinGate, bitrefill, others that publish, consistently list Litecoin as a top 3 coin for transactions. It’s always LTC,BTC and a stable coin at the top. And I think this is because of the LTC/BTC historical relationship and level of trust gained that cannot be replicated by newcomers

Alfador8

​Check out the [all time hash rate chart.](https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTC_HASHRATE/?timeframe=ALL) It was secure enough in 2015, 2020, etc. The network is FAR more secure than "necessary".

Self_Blumpkin

Butterfly labs was the main offender too. My father and I debated buying one of them or buying 10k of BTC instead

PeaceAgitated1978

Agreed 100% which I still have to max out but yeah .. gogogo the race is on ! Load in bear.. unload top, convert to reals BTC.. wait for bear market repeat.

No-Entrepreneur-2612

If you are new on an exchange, you often can get an additional welcome bonus. BTC and ETH are the best crypto coins to have.

PeaceAgitated1978

No matter what, BTC is a net Long investment.. just like Gold.. with if they are intelligent enough to see their investments in $ through the CAGR lenses, will invest in without hesitation since nothing else beat BTC by Cagr average.. yet we are so "late" in adoption than most good years of guaranteed CAGR over performance are behind us.. we're ate the merge of the need to time the markets or underperform.. we can't just buy anywhere anymore and just wait.. that result in underperform the SP 500 average that for him is not decreasing but exponentially increasing through inflation and money printing terms.. while BTC lagging behind because of lack of adoption due to lack of understanding of the asset..

PeaceAgitated1978

The real point is, they think in $ . They don't understand Bitcoin enough to want to see their net worth in BTC. For them it's always going to be a hit and run style of investment. You get in, you get out to not get wrecked in $ term's.. once they stop to see their worth in dollars. It's all going to work and make sense to them. We live in a deflationary era . Everything is supposed to cost less and less. Artificial scarcity through artificial currency that is the dollar make it stay going up and up with inflation. You choose your own path of life, choose your own version of the economy through your currency. And yes it's pointless to choose BTC and still give the key to a institution. Chasing returns in $ term's.. might be worth it if you are a Trader that long term see anyway his worth in BTC.. just want to grow his stack through Trades.. yeah.. but the one's that actually happens to be able to.. are like 3% of the whole of them.. BTC seller.. No need anymore to sell BTC to get $ to be able to protect your $ term's value.. you can now borrow, against your BTC. Open Short without ever selling your BTC. Then Trades the Bear market down with stop losses or trailing SL.. you get all the goods parts without ever selling your BTC meaning you don't have to pay capital gains taxs at the moment.. just the tax's on your short gain's.. at the end of Bear market.. much more easy to digest.. and also, btw, that way, you decide how many taxes you are going to pay.

lwb03dc

Honestly, I am more bullish about BTC today than I've ever been. Is it a bubble? Yes. But there are institutional reasons now to maintain the bubble. Of course, i realize that these can end up being famous last words, but I think there's still juice in this lemon.

Ok-Sympathy9768

Anecdotally, my personal experience, i got into bitcoin late, I lump summed in at around 3k years ago ( I didn’t stack “sats”, I stacked bitcoins); saw that go to 69k and saw it crash back down( my exit strategy in 2021 for half my stack was the 75k price point; which never happened ). I lump summed in again after FTX shit show because I was still up overall and had strong conviction ( scarcity, decentralized, financial independence from 3rd party, and the promise of mass adoption; BTC was a sacred cow). I road it up to 120k+ this cycle and thought it was going to the moon to at least 150k; which was my new exit strategy price point for half my stack. I was wrong and it didn’t moon but crashed again, lesson learned. I sold off almost all my BTC investments, all in tranches starting in the 95k range; I made life changing money because of BTC and left life changing money on the table. Now, I will only hold a few bitcoins worth exposure, and only in ETFs, in a tax advantaged account just in case it does moon (I own zero actual bitcoins or sats). This is why I believe it’s a 4 year cycle; at best.. if bitcoin was going to moon like it supposed too, it would have not crashed back down this time If you want to invest in BTC as if there is zero evidence of a “4 year cycle”/DCA, that is your choice. I will gladly take the other side of that trade.

DangerHighVoltage111

P2p cash is the only real use case that matters. BTC got hijacked and crippled. p2p cash continues on BCH and XMR.