BTC

Dangerous_Boot_3870

After seeing how the average person invest and chooses investments within a brokerage account, they are better off DCA BTC. If you never heard of the company, don't invest 25% of your portfolio in it because Greg saw a clip of it on Tik Tok.

Aggravating_Dish_824

>People pay miners to process their transactions today, those are the fees I'm talking about. How is that not relevant to the discussion? It's not relevant to discussion because mechanism I described will work no matter what share of rewards are transaction fees today. >This is incorrect. The transaction fee market is independent of the block reward. I just described how this markets connected through supply of miner services. >It is based on the supply and demand market for people wanting to transact on the Bitcoin network. It is based on supply of what? It is based on supply of transaction processing services miners are ready to sell. If supply of transaction processing services go left and up then market prices go up. >The more people that want to send their BTC, then the higher the transaction fees. It's one of factors affecting market price (demand curve), but it's not all factors affecting market price. >Miners do not set fees, users do. You are contradicting yourself. If market price is based at equlibrium of supply by miners and demand by users then nor miners nor users set fees singlehandely. Market sets them. >This is simply not sustainable. It's sustainable if only high-volume transactions will happen in bitcoin blockchain. Just like you said: >Bitcoin will become a whale chain that does nothing but allow whales to move BTC from A to B. >Really? Like what? It was a question for you. There is question mark in the end.

Spitipoti

I feel like there's some sort of unjustified hype around hardware wallets. If you plan on making max 1-2 tx/year, I don't see how they are any safer if you're a bit knowledgeable around computers. You can easily run Tails offline via USB stick, load your cold SW wallet there and sign your transactions offline. That's arguably safer than buying an HW wallet, considering you're putting yourself a huge target on your back when buying one: see the data leaks - bad actors can try to either try social engineering you or outright come and meet you face-to-face IRL. If I have an offline HW wallet, nobody knows I own BTC. On the other hand, I can totally see how they're handy if you send transactions on a weekly basis.

Impossible-Weight852

Prediction market says no super cycle. More specifically, the highest price target for BTC with a greater than 50% probability is $110K. In short, no new ATH in 2026.

Michawl_

I think the more interesting discussion will be how that transition would look. Obviously nodes shouldn't care, but they may be slow to update. Miners would want to hold onto sha256 until their dying breath due to the capital investment. Users wouldn't care. I don't know enough about it but it seems like it will require a hard fork and those always spawn copycats "I'm the real BTC". Not worried about it, but it will definitely be a turbulent 3-6 months, or even longer, when that update comes.

Nikita_UA

Same age as BTC? Nice investment

worldcitizencane

You need that *and* a *lot* of BTC to afford a place there.

whisperedstate

People pay miners to process their transactions today, those are the fees I'm talking about. How is that not relevant to the discussion? But since you didn't answer the question. The percentage of miner income that is transaction fees compard to block reward is currently 0.6% https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/percent-miner-revenue-from-fees?utm_source=chatgpt.com In nominal terms, that's ~$184,000 per day for all miners on the Bitcoin network. > If new block reward decreases then transaction fees increase until they make up for decreased value, no matter what percent of block rewards they was beforehand. This is incorrect. The transaction fee market is independent of the block reward. It is based on the supply and demand market for people wanting to transact on the Bitcoin network. The more people that want to send their BTC, then the higher the transaction fees. The Bitcoin network is capped at 7 transactions per second, and this is based on the block times and halveneing schedule. So 600k transactions per day would be an average fee of ~$100 per transaction to pay the miners the same they are making in block rewards today. This is simply not sustainable. It's not even sustainable with sidechains like lightning which need to pay to open and close channels (and is practically dead). Thsi is an equlibirium that cannot remain. Either people will stop transacting, and the fees will lower, or Bitcoin will become a whale chain that does nothing but move BTC from A to B. > Right now you can do something with your BTC besides sending them to someone? Really? Like what?

jwz9904

why compare btc to silver. BTC is GOLD!

SpartanMoonMan

I’m on the same journey toward becoming a whole coiner. I’ve been consistently DCAing for about a year now on a daily and weekly basis. Part of me almost hopes the doom predictions are right and we dip lower, just so I can accumulate more with the same contributions. At my current pace, I’m estimating it’ll still take another 6–7 years to reach one full BTC.

oki_sauce

Hey, I know its frustrating, but this is the case for any field. Medical, legal, etc. There's always wrong facts that just become movie tropes and aren't factually correct in any way. I remember in blacklist, a character said 50% of all BTC transactions are illegal lol. Just how it be

InstaSwap_io

It's okay, we will stack BTC and come back in a few years!

Aggravating_Dish_824

>What percent of block rewards are fees today? Idk, I'm not even going to check since it's not relevant to discussion. If new block reward decreases then transaction fees increase until they make up for decreased value, no matter what percent of block rewards they was beforehand. >And then follow up question, if you can't do anything with your BTC but send/receive, why would anyone pay fees high enough to subsidize miners? For same reason people pay fees today: to send bitcoins to another people. Btw I'm not sure I understood your first sentence. Right now you can do something with your BTC besides sending them to someone? >And why would transaction fees miraculously rise because block rewards are low? 1. New block reward decreases. 2. Miners become unprofitable. 3. Miners either stops mining or increase minimum transaction fees they require until they are profitable again. >Are people going to be alturistic and donate money to the miners? No. People are going to pay miners for processing their transactions.

SnooCalculations1742

You can't earn money from BTC without risking your funds. If you send them to a lending platform you might get 2-5% in yearly rewards, but you also then risk your funds, as the platform might be hacked, go bankrupt etc. The only way to get more FIAT money is to sell BTC after a couple of years, if the price vs USD has increased

The_Bitcoin_Act

A powerful enough quantum computer could run Shor’s algorithm to derive a private key from a public key, potentially stealing funds from affected addresses. Vulnerable addresses → Mostly legacy ones (early P2PK from 2009–2010 or reused P2PKH) where the public key is already exposed on the blockchain. Estimates suggest 4–10 million BTC (20–50% of circulating supply in some studies) could be at risk if keys are visible. Safer modern addresses → SegWit, Taproot, etc., keep public keys hidden until you spend. As long as you don’t reuse addresses and haven’t spent from old ones, your BTC isn’t directly exposed yet. Even then, breaking this requires a fault-tolerant quantum machine with millions of logical qubits (current top systems are in the low thousands of physical qubits, with high error rates). Also, proposals explore adding post quantum signatures (lattice based or hash based) with gradual migration.

TherealCarbunc

I just DCA on paydays. don't stress the price movement except for other swing plays that rely on BTC price movement.

Mean_Active600

I take this to mean, everyone will use it even if not aware directly. Like your employer or some other org like insurance will transact in BTC for day to day business soon, and you may end up only using USD, but the rails for transfers would be on BTC. (Similar to how Swift currently works for bank to bank transfers, avg person has no idea what that is or clearing house)

aja_18

You think Microstrategy will always hold it? It's an investing company and for them to profit, they need to sell. That's 800k of btc they need to sell, so your argument is actually a negative for BTC...

EvidenceWorking

It’s pretty true people keep saying zOoM oUt but what is happening right now is all that really matters. People don’t like to hear that history doesn’t matter but that’s the truth. History is not now and therefore it is irrelevant. BTC is not doing good and I am focusing on the metals cause they are doing good.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

BTC and ETH. Skip the rest

FIREATWlLL

Yeah the only difference is there is a sprinkle of religion in there but it is basically the same thing. Scarcity doesn’t imply the world will converge to using it as a store of value. I don’t like banks and I like the philosophy of BTC but you don’t know if it will be accepted or rejected, so it is literally gambling.

InstaSwap_io

S&P 500 and real estate. But, thank god we have BTC

whisperedstate

What percent of block rewards are fees today? And then follow up question, if you can't do anything with your BTC but send/receive, why would anyone pay fees high enouhg to subsidize miners?

ternymal_velocity

...and when all BTC is owned by MSTR and Blackrock, there'll be no hope of it being taken seriously as a currency or reserve asset and it'll be worth 0.

Different_Cap_2169

When the crypto bill it, Bitcoin will boom. Congress wants to link it to the USD which will increase its value again and it will also stop the manipulation on BTC price

Bratizcka

0.1 BTC for 10 years will probably get you a good amount in 10 years. I think it's solid

chr1stok3r

I think you’re doing a solid job. Personally I’m going heavy buy on BTC. I’m also adding to my ETH and LINK holdings but at a slower pace. I’ve got solid positions in XRP, and Hbar as high risk/high reward plays.

Opposite_Ad_4431

Large banks have already recommended allocating 4% of your portfolio to BTC. [source](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/bank-of-america-backs-crypto-allocation) Quick answer: Yes. I’d even go as far to say, buy a full BTC. If you can hold it, you’re golden. Happy stacking

Medium_Change4574

Crazy moves on Silver right now, imagine BTC dumping from 117k to 102k within a few hours

fukidtiots

This is why I'm not as quick to say that BTC at a million is a few years away. It seems like the cycle is generally flattening out and we are more likely to take 10 years to get to $500k... 40 years to get to $1 million. But as always, no one really knows anything.

dca-bot

Think about multiplier DCA. Instead of buying the same amount each timeframe the multiplier scales up and down depending on market conditions. Bonus tip: do not hold your BTC on a exchange, move to a cold wallet

DistributionMoist800

The geopolitical landscape is not conducive to a BTC rally; it may even be the beginning of the end of a Bllish BTC run. Sad.

Zestyclose_Stomach51

Thanks to him, Bitcoin Pizza Day will forever be remembered and celebrated by the whole BTC community.

Reasonable-0ne

I think you're right but you underestimate the amount of paper Bitcoin I think. The institutional involvement opens up the doors to greater fractional reserves and derivatives which all take away from your premise of less and less BTC for people.

Sage_of_spice

Nice. I was hoping I'd left my money in BTC back from like 2015. I had set up a seperate email to try and keep my accounts secure but the provider ended up deleting the account. I was able to remake it and recieve recovery emails but now they want all my banking info and photos of my documents just to even get into it. What a headache. I almost don't even want to bother. I'm getting the impression my accounts might have been shut down anyways.

bitMachina_ca

"I'll take the 10 BTC, I'm happy with where things are, but I'll never say no to an extra 10 Bitcoin

Zestyclose_Stomach51

What??!!! HODL it bud! You're already so far ahead of 99% of the world! The BTC standard is coming!!!

Rare_Rich6713

I think it’s less about perps being hard and more about collateral trust. Most on-chain commodity ideas would just use wrapped BTC or custodial stables, which recreates TradFi risk. That’s why native BTC as margin is interesting. If BTC can stay self-custodied like Babylon’s TBV model, commodity perps actually make sense long term. Reg/oracles/liquidity are real hurdles, but it feels more early than impossible.

kironet996

now, how many do you think bought XMR at 700 and BTC at 120k? I'd say a lot **in this sub** based on constant crying and whining after every 5m red candle**.**

Hiking_euro

5k in BTC and 5k in BC2 while it’s truly still young

ws401jeep

I rolled $30k into Ibit Roth a couple years ago….im 43. Just gonna let it roll for the next 20 years and see what happens. I still max contribute to a 401k and buy BTC separately. And started dabbling in dividend investing last year.

RepresentativeNo7802

I never participate in these things. I know nothing. Is it possible that some larger wealthy people see the vulnerable state of MSTR and have acquired enough BTC to be able manipulate the price at any given time around that critical time to push the price low enough to cause MSTR to rupture like a stuck pig? And at the same time profit off it because despite them having to dump all that BTC to do it, might they have off-setting bets in the market that would allow them higher gains that whatever they spent to kill MSTR? Would there be anything illegal about it, it it was all executed in the crypto space? Again I know nothing. Thank you.

PirateSKB

Ehh not true, I took some good profit on XMR which made me a bunch of USDC and I held for like 3 years. My average for Eth and BTC are lower than current prices so if I sold I would still walk away with a profit (but they're amounts that i'm cool with the price dropping a bit, but I am down a bunch of thousands since last month, but i'm still content)

A1JX52rentner

on what ground do you want to sue? "Hey, my company holds btc" "Cool, I´ll invest" \*BTC drop\* "I´ll sue you because my investment didnt pay off even tho you did exactly what you said you would"

antoine235

The moment microstrategy avoids buying for any reason, BTC plummets dragging the company valuation. They know this so they'll keep buying while they can.

Iapetus404

2010 i trying to buy BTC from ebay but everyone sell x10....x30 depend the amount of BTC. I think it was 0.03$ and told my self i buy later when exchanges work for my country...... I took me 9 years.....

SWT_Bobcat

Or a forced liquidation of Saylors holdings in a situation in which BTC had initial crash (thus forcing the liquidation) will mean a crash upon a crash for BTC

Spitipoti

I think you got your math wrong. For such a performance to be replicated you'd need 1BTC = 1.4B USD

scott_in_ga

I'm assuming BTC goes below $10k. Is that losing it all? not technically but I bet it's going to feel that way for ppl who bought around $100k

TherealCarbunc

For sure, right now I just set a DCA twice a month, no stress though I follow BTC's daily price to swing trade MARA.

Round-Ad5934

Is BTC through Fidelity an ETF or the coin itself? That's what I did, in an ira

scott_in_ga

as per my base case, your 10k will shrink way down over the next year or two, and then slowly start to come back after the following 2-4 years. if you're ok with that drawdown then it's fine. I'm personally not going to long BTC until it is VERY obvious that it has bottomed. Not talking about wicking down to some number, but more like being very boring and going sideways for a very long time- like maybe a year. My base case is that this all happens below $10k

badplayz99

It was like that, when BTC cost 15-20k, everyone was afraid to buy cryptocurrency.

Tasty_Action5073

Yup. Lightning is a different beast now. 1 BTC channels exist and there are plenty of them.

Constant_Counter_595

Honestly if you're not planning to DCA and this is house money anyway, I'd probably just let it ride. You already hit the hardest part which is actually getting some BTC in the first place lol Worst case scenario you lose gambling winnings, best case you're sitting pretty in a few years when everyone's wishing they bought at these prices. Just don't check the price every day or you'll drive yourself nuts

tekn0lust

Yep. I lost .75 BTC to Vault of Satoshi way back when. 100% my fault. Was only couple hundred at the time.

phil_tek

Desire doesn’t go up forever, but it is steadily increasing. The question is how high will the value of Bitcoin rise till desire starts to flat line? I believe BTC will easily see a value of at least $1 mil per BTC within 10 years.

quipcow

Thx, I obviously dont pay him much attention. Q- In your opinion can strategy still be viable if they basically lose their premium over personally holding BTC? 

TFWG2000

I basically did this two years ago. The BTC has performed well. The hard part is letting the BTC ride and ignoring the hype. Simply Bitcoin and alike sites are click bait hucksters. Smart people on CNBC like Saylor, Lee and Wood have made aggressive predictions... and have been very wrong. So instead of clicking my investment refesh screen every 5 seconds, just like any long-term investment, if I am beating inflation - I am winning. So IMO, you should go for it. GL! Click... now when are we hitting $250,000??? Click... 😎

shangalamash

And remind him not to swap BTC on ledger through changelly

prksddvl

I put an additional $10m int BTC at $125k. It’s BTC or BUST.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

When BTC goes below 200-week moving average!

WorkerEquivalent4278

It was just as easy for the BTC to stay at the same price for decades.

piggleii

Incredible that Saylor managed to buy more BTC at an average price of 90k when it’s spent most of its time in the 80s.

biba8163

> January 2016 ETH/BTC .003. When ETH was $0.98 and had a $70 Million marketcap 🤡. This is typical shitcoiner cope. - Lets go back to 2016 OR - Lets go back to when ETH dumped -90% > watch this I am watching you lose money and opportunity cost and do mental gymnastics buying shitcoins and pretending you made money lol > 1000 Moon Bet: > ETH/BTC ratio hits .15 before 2/1/2022 **(Oct. 2021, BTC $62K, ETH $4K)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qcekzf/comment/hhg2njs/ > After 7 years, I have whittled down (aka consolidated) my coins to the final 4: ETH, XRP, FTT, and LINK. Got rid of BTC back in May **(Feb. 2022, BTC $38K, ETH $2,700, XRP $0.72, FTT $41, LINK $14)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/sz2hre/daily_discussion_february_23_2022_gmt0/hy2f9hx/ > would you rather have 1 bitcoin or 24 ethereum? > Right now....24 ETH by a MILE! Even a maxi knows math that ETH is undervalued to ATH compared to BTC and always outperforms BTC in the 4 year cycle. **(Aug 2024, BTC $62K, ETH $2,700)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1emrhat/comment/lh70v5r/ > After a successful 6 months of shorting ETH, my latest stop out short trade is my last for a while. Moving to the long side of leverage trading ETH **(Sep. 2024, BTC $63K, ETH $2,600)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1flq8gc/daily_crypto_discussion_september_21_2024_gmt0/lo9cen1/

TherealCarbunc

i plan to build BTC to be 5% of my total portfolio minimum. currently sitting at 2%. just continue to chip away via DCA

ieatvegans

I think BTC will just do nothing for 2026. No $50k, no $150k, just sideways crabbing.

Real-Technician831

Doesn’t really need cherry picking for past years. Unless of course you cherry pick times when BTC has collapsed.

pop-1988

Litecoin doesn't merge-mine. DOGE merge-mines with LTC Several coins merge-mine with BTC

BainTrain55

If that happens what do you think will happen to BTC? Sub 60k incoming..

ZerkerDE

He is a genius he got rich and he personally wont be poor even if the company goes under. He turned his piece of shit company around and got rich and all the attention he could ever want. It does not matter if the BTC-Bet works out. And of course he keeps buying BTC if he ever sells he knows his company is doomed so he wont until it gies under.

nxy7

ik that btc subreddit is a little bit of circlejerk, but as they say - noone knows the future and you shouldn't beat youself over it. Truth being told most people invest in BTC because 'line goes up' and your rationale right now is the same (personally I don't think there's better reason as BTC doesn't have good fundamentals other than limited supply \[but you can have infinitely many assets with limited supply so that story is weak too\]) so it's not like you're making better decision now than buying/cashing out in the past as all of those decisions were made without strong conviction/knowledge - at least that's how it looks like to me. Now, I'm ready for being stoned to death for writing that on btc subreddit xD

BainTrain55

Gold/silver just added BTC entire market cap within the last 24 hours. For anyone thinking it’s going to rotate into BTC is dreaming. Why would it when gold just keeps going up?

BrazilianTerror

> BTC barely outperforms stock indices, which are way less risk Only if you cherry pick the timeframes. On most scenarios BTC does outperforms

UnQuebecoisOrdinaire

Saylor was thrashing BTC before, not sure when he changed his mind but it's possible that when it was 20k he still considered it a scam.

brkinard

Cherry picking nonsense shit...watch this: January 2016 ETH/BTC .003. January 2026 ETH/BTC .033 ETH 10X outperformance!

WickedKali

No, you're not delusional at all. Making the plan is easy, following it thoroughly is not. Do it and don't change your mind along the way. Maybe add BTC in the mix as well.

gentlegiant80

I'm really not sure it's more foolish to try to make money betting on the likely high in New York City on a Tuesday Afternoon than it is to buy a meme coin hoping it goes up 100x. Both feed on the hope of a big quick payoff. Investing in BTC is less speculative with less expectation of an immediate, dramatic payoff and a growing amount of institutional support. It's a much longer-term bet on the direction of the asset, the economy, and the monetary system, so I don't think it will affect BTC too much. If you move money from BTC to Kalshi, you either: 1) Have developed a gambling problem or 2) shouldn't have been investing the money in BTC in the first place.

TapThatYak

The big meet up in Davos was a last ditch effort to get liquidity from retail. I expect BTC to go 1 more leg down to 79.5-82k. Maybe a mini match 2020-like crash as a finale?? What's good is BTC holds intrinsic value with average elec. costs pricing it at ~73k. Someone correct me if I am wrong. The rest of the long trades will be wiped out in the next few months. Shorts are weak atm. Im considering IBIT LEAPS once longs get wiped, with a tight stoploss

Puzzleheaded_Ask_918

If Strategy ever gets into trouble and is forced to sell large quantitiesof BTC. This will possibly trigger a long squeeze.

CanadianCompSciGuy

I think the richer you are, the less likely you are to understand BTC. I like Burry (in that I think he's worth listening too), but you have to remember how rich he is at this point. In a given year, he will make or lose more money than I will earn in my entire lifetime. He just buys and sells stocks. 1 year of pushing buttons on a computer. 50 years of labour for me (also pushing buttons on a computer, but different context). Inflation doesn't affect him directly. It's just a variable in his strategy to maximize his total return. A minor consideration, hardly worth mentioning. Inflation affects me directly. For the past 10 years, my job has not kept up with inflation, meaning I am more efficient in my contribution to society than every before, but my share of the pie is smaller than ever before. BTC makes sense when you're in my position, because it offers a way out of a system that only promises a degrading quality of life. BTC doesn't make sense to Burry, because the current system IS WORKING for him as is. Why would he support and embrace something that threatens the very system that made him so wealthy?

ProgressiveLogic4U

It is not as simple as you may think. Ripple, the company, will succeed spectacularly, but it is a private company, so there is no way to profit specifically from its success. Sad for us? Ripple's software and rails have been standardized and regulated for trillions of dollars worth of transactions. That seems pretty clear. But that is the software, not the token XRP. The software can use any digitized token to transfer value from here to there. Ripple, the company, seems to have no direct competitors at the highest levels of finance, which are Central Banks and BIS, the central bank of central banks. The issue with XRP is that it is just one token that is available for digitized finance to use. The emergence of all sorts of stablecoins has cluttered the market with tokens of value. These stablecoins are also stable, LOL, which businesses prefer over volatile tokens like BTC. XRP was not supposed to be super volatile like BTC. But stablecoins now offer exactly what big finance and businesses want: extremely stable values. Will the financial item backing stablecoins suffice as value? Will US bonds or gold backing a stablecoin serve as the preferred form of token for world finance? Will the world accept the USDC (the Dollar) as the world's currency in token form? Will Tether's USDT (US Treasuries) serve as the token vehicle of value? Will the BRICS Unit (40% gold-backed) be permanently adopted by some nations? All I can say is that Ripple is the only real competitor when it comes to regulated finance. Finance requires extreme dependability and accountability when transferring trillions of dollars. Ripple has developed the only rails that meet the extreme confidence required for the big money to participate. XRP is the neutral token with the default position for easy, secure use by financial institutions of any size. The XRP token was built for the Ripple environment and is managed by Ripple, reflecting major advantages over other tokens. By default, XRP can be used immediately with the Ripple rails. But Ripple can use other tokens, too. The use of XRP will be minimal for payments when transferring other tokenized coins. So it has to remain viable. XRP is not going away. So will XRP make you rich? That is becoming debatable with the adoption of stablecoins. But XRP is still the default token. Other tokens might fall out of favor. Does the financial world really want to depend on the dollar and debt like US Treasuries in the future? Is there even enough physical gold in the world to reflect hundreds of trillions of dollars in value? Tether can only buy so much gold, and Central banks can only buy so much gold, before there is no gold left to buy.

badplayz99

I don't understand why Michael Sailor didn't buy in larger quantities when BTC was $15-20k?

badplayz99

BTC is being bought in such large volumes, but the price is going down, not up.

DontLook_Weirdo

Boa dica. Eu uso widgets do CoinMarketCap para BTC e do Yahoo Finance para ações.

rottiesrule88

In stock markets retail accounts for only 20% of market share. In BTC retail currently around 80% of the pie. And institutional is just getting started into the BTC space. So also BTC will pivot to 80% institutional.

freddyp91

So true. I look at the BTC price maybe once a week if that.

Carbuncle2024

This seems to be a neverending debate: BTC v IBIT. Yes, IBIT is not BTC, but if it performs as a replicate of the price action, what's the big deal? I'm curious bc it seems to offer the same opportunity w/o the technical complexity.

asherlevi

We hit the peak at 126, it’s going down and will stay down for the next 4 years. There’s no evidence that BTC is going to behave differently than it has ever.

ElderMight

You're playing with fire. What if you sell and then the price keeps rising? You've lost all that appreciation and depending on your jurisdiction you owe capital gains tax. Before I met my stacking goals, I bought regularly and bought extra when the price dipped. Now I just get paid in BTC every paycheck.

Intrepid_Upstairs243

My only concern would be if strategy sank so low that he would have to sell some BTC to cover the loss. I’m not sure how that works though.

LinoStar69

If you bought silver just 10 hours ago, you’ve already made more than someone holding BTC for the past 10 months.

Otherwise-4PM

How does someone come up with the idea to put BTC and XRP in the same sentence?

biba8163

- In **2017**, the total **Alt Marketcap was 65% higher than BTC**. In **2026, BTC marketcap** is higher than **90% higher than the total Alt Marketcap.** - The Alt Marketcap has shrunk -40% since 2021 - Crypto growth for the last 4+ years has been mostly BTC and Stablecoins **Web3, DeFi, RWA, Hocus Pocus Oracles, Nostro/Vostro Banks, etc are just meme narratives to bamboozle investors with the idea that crypto projects have some kind of fundamental value.** They do not. BTC is a speculative asset and Alts are double speculative that generally rely on BTC price appreciation to gain value because they don't have any value in and of themselves. | | Jun. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | January. 2026 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $40.4 Billion | $1.23 Trillion | $1.749 Trillion | Stablecoins | $0.13 Billion| $0.11 Trillion | $0.32 Trillion | Alt. Marketcap | $66.6 Billion |$1.52 Trillion | $0.911 Trillion | Total Crypto | $107.13 Billion |$2.86 Trillion | $2.98 Trillion | **BTC Dominance** | **37.8%** | **44.7%** | **65.75%** **BTC Dominance excludes stablecoins*

LongBeachJohn

Could it be starting now? I have started to rotate some BTC to ETH.

Smiill95

They are convertible bonds. Once they are matured they can choose stock or cash. Of course that works when BTC goes up but if the strategy keeps declining nobody will choose their stock over cash and then they'll have to liquidate some BTC to pay that loan. It works until it doesn't.

Glittering_Pick_9738

For a quick pump and dump. Similar like bitcoin investors rotate their profits from BTC into lower marketcap alts to increase gains. Still gold and crypto are different asset classes, unlike bitcoin and alts. It's possible but by no means certain.  The fact that we count on compassion pump says a lot about the current state of crypto. 

quipcow

Doesn't he have a huge wave of bonds due in 27?  Seems to me that will be the inflection point, as the market price of BTC will probably be the main factor weather he can get through those redemptions,,, or not.

ddbbccoopper

The idea that Bitcoin “follows gold” is pure revisionist nonsense. Bitcoiners spent *years* dunking on gold bugs, pointing out (correctly or not) that gold went basically nowhere for decades. Not once during that entire period did anyone claim gold was a “leading indicator” for Bitcoin. In fact, the whole pitch was that Bitcoin was the *replacement* for gold, not its shadow. Now that gold is finally on a run, suddenly it’s supposed to be some kind of prophetic signal for BTC? Come on. That narrative didn’t exist until it became convenient. If people need a justification to keep holding, fine, that’s human nature. But pretending gold has always been part of Bitcoin’s price discovery story is just rewriting history in real time. It’s embarrassing.

whisperedstate

What's confusing about it? Miner revenue gets halved every 4 years. At some point, the amount of BTC per block will be insignificant compared to the costs of mining.