BTC

Chavydog

There’s been a couple times with BTC that I thought I was right, but I was wrong. But later I ended up being right. I think you forget that bitcoin does 30k moves on the regular like they’re nothing

tenor_tymir

I usually let it amount to 0.2-0.5BTC before I send it into cold storage. It’s just a personal preference though.

Thaddaeus_Undergrade

100x better than the Saylor AI slop. BTC CEO is the best CEO

terp_studios

No. Spend the bad money, save the good money. No reason at all to spend BTC and rebuy it unless you just want to give exchanges more fee revenue.

Key_Independent_818

Well in the last cycle BTC hit its previous ATH of $69k before the halving. That was the first time thats happened. Things are speeding up and the bottom continues getting shallower. Its never going to be exactly the same forever

Key_Independent_818

Well in the last cycle for the first time BTC hit its previous ATH $69k before the halving for the first time. Things are speeding up and the bottom continues getting shallower

bbatardo

I am not saying it will, and I hope it won't since I am holding, but on Oct 7th 2025 BTC was around 124k and then Nov 22nd was 84k. A lot can happen in 6 weeks. which would still technically be October lol.

IgotthatNEWNEW

I also somehow doubled my BTC once while SR was around, I only doubled $1200 and I didn't have any idea how I did it but it was nice at the time. I bought more drugs.

JoesRealAccount

Nothing has to happen. BTC is just random bullshit. I already bought but if it goes to 40k next month (which I think it will) I'm remortgaging and going all in.

Peturio

This is a little late reply, but hope it helps. Did run your portfolio through our portfolio risk engines at [Sentralis.io](https://aentralis.io) (free accounts are available so you can play around with the scenarios yourself) and this is the result: At yesterday's prices the eight positions are worth about $29.9K. XRP is 48% of that value and ETH is 32%. The other six coins together make up the remaining 20%. Whether this portfolio will make 2x or 3x, who really knows? But it's possible to measure how wide the range of outcomes is for these coins. I simulated one year forward from their current volatility and correlations, with no price trend assumed in either direction. In that simulation 14% of the paths end the year at 2x or more, and 4% end at 3x or more. In the same simulation 47% of the paths end below today's value, and 11% end below half of it. Four out of ten paths go through a drawdown of at least 50% at some point during the year. If the coming year resembles a reshuffle of the last one, which was a bear market, 1% of the paths reach 2x and about half of the paths end below half of today's value. All simulation figures in this reply are model estimates under the stated assumptions, and they are not predictions. A 3x within one year needs a strong bull market on top of what the simulation assumes. Despite the portfolio holding eight coins, in reality it behaves like one position. Over the past year XRP, ETH, BTC and SOL had pairwise correlations between 0.83 and 0.90. In the replay of the bear market from October 2025 to July 1 every coin in your portfolio fell between 50% and 88%. That period on your current holdings gives a loss of 64%, which would take $29.9K down to about $10.8K. BTC alone lost 51% in the same period. Most commenters told you to swap the XRP for BTC, so I ran that version as well. The loss in the worst 5% of one-year outcomes goes from 61% to 55%. The share of paths with a drawdown of at least 50% goes from 41% to 29%. The share of paths that end at 3x goes from 4% to 2%. The swap lowers the risk somewhat, and it lowers the chance of a 3x as well. The portfolio would still rise and fall with the rest of the crypto market.

_Stylite

BTC has a 70-90% correlation with the market during risk off scenarios eg market decline or a bubble bursting. You are right though, the same correlation has not been happening on market upside. This should temper your expectations for a massive bull run

Peturio

This is a little late reply, but hope it helps. Did run your portfolio through our portfolio risk engines at [Sentralis.io](https://sentralis.io) (free accounts are available, so you can play around with the different scenarios yourself) and this is the result: At yesterday's prices the five positions are worth about $49K, split HYPE 36%, SOL 26%, PUMP 19%, LIT 12% and SKR 7%. LIT and SKR have less than a month of price history in our data, which is too short to model. The risk numbers below therefore cover the HYPE, SOL and PUMP positions only,( 81% of the portfolio). Several commenters treated this portfolio as one single altcoin bet, and the data does not fully support that view. Over the past year the pairwise correlations between HYPE, SOL and PUMP were between 0.51 and 0.66, while BTC, ETH and SOL were at 0.86 to 0.90 with each other over the same period. The difference showed in the replay of the bear market from October 2025 to July 1. SOL fell 66% and PUMP fell 78% in that period, while HYPE gained 29%. That period on your current weights gives a loss of 26%, against 51% for BTC alone. The 26% loss in depends entirely on the rise of HYPE. If HYPE had fallen as much as SOL did, the same replay would show a loss of about 69%. The cost of holding these three coins is volatility. Together they run at about 81% annualized volatility, which is close to double the 43.5% of BTC. I simulated one year forward from current volatility and correlations, with no price trend assumed in either direction. In the worst 5% of simulated outcomes the three positions lose 69% or more. Seven out of ten simulated paths go through a drawdown of at least 50% at some point during the year, and one in five goes through a drawdown of 70%. All simulation figures in this reply are model estimates under the stated assumptions, and they are not predictions. You wrote that you can manage a drawdown and would start to DCA into it again, so the drawdown sizes matter for how much cash you keep aside. One in four simulated paths ends the year at double the starting value or more. 97% of those winning paths still went through a drawdown of at least 30% on the way. A 30% drawdown is therefore what this portfolio does even in a good year, and a 50% drawdown is what it does in most years.

Potatotornado20

BTC and the market have not been correlated at all since Sept last year

_Stylite

If the AI bubble pops the market is going down and investors will be risk off and pull cash from BTC and BTC proxies. BTC and the market have been directly correlated for a while now

TechnicianExpress774

Initially, my plan was to build a long-term portfolio through small, targeted investments. Over the past year, given the market stagnation, I’ve paid less attention to it and lost some interest. My investments are already diversified, but for some time now, I’ve been wondering if it might make more sense to move my BTC holdings elsewhere. I’m a very self-assured person, but I love drawing inspiration from other ideas—especially ones that might be more profitable.

Hot_Positive7292

er not a dollar amount. Like every 0.01 BTC goes out no matter what price is doing. Fees are bad some days so I batch couple small buys together before moving but never keep more than 0.02 sitting there. Exchanges are not wallets, lost like 300 bucks few years ago when one froze withdrawals for weeks, never again

AsherHayes6

Never move micro-amounts. Every $20 withdrawal becomes a tiny UTXO that will cost you $50 in network fees to spend during a bull market. Build up to at least 0.01 BTC or 1,000,000 sats on the exchange before hitting withdraw.

AsherHayes6

Stocks are at all-time highs because the Fed is inflating the bubble. BTC lagging just means the launchpad is taking longer to load.

TheVeloRebel

Dear lord this why BTC's design matters IMO BTC can learn a lot from other types of projects which will keep it as no1!! HAWK just got wreckt (key recovery reduced to SVP in dimension n/2 +1, security levels basically halved and the team withdrew from NIST). So the new shiny lattice assumption looks great for years of human review... all until better AI crypt0-analysis shows up and forces blow-ups that kill the performance advantages!!! It's the same pattern we've seen with early RSA sizes, MOV on some curves, SIKE, Rainbow, etc. King BTC (amongst all the other shit chains) hard-code a single sig scheme into consensus. Moving to PQ means a high-stakes, network-wide change, and they have to coordinate a soft/hard fork to trigger the change, everyone's gonna have to live with the consequences if it gets broken later whilst all arguing in between..reminds me of the 'big blocks debate actually', messy. Remember those days? Massive arguments and banter. Squeaky bum time on that decision, I wonder who will cop the blame if it fails. If shitcoins or BTC rushes that process, we risk exactly the irony described. The secp256k1 is still fine while the “quantum-safe” replacement is toast. Satoshi picked a solid classical curve so BTC has been in line so far IMO. If you look at already thought-out projects boasting the 'crypto agility' narrative, and already post quantum coding , they’re designed from day one so that “lucky” isn’t a long-term strategy. BTC learns from others at times. This will be obvious. We can wait for the dust to settle on post-quantum candidates, use the most conservative options first (hash-based), and still have a clean upgrade path when stronger, more efficient algorithms finally prove themselves. That’s the real difference for BTC, it has to get the post-quantum migration right the first time. This is key. BTC will learn to have Crypto agility in the future IMO

xXRabbitInRedditXx

Dont listen to financial advice on reddit. Do whatever you feel is right. Ofcourse people in the BTC sub will shill BTC, on other subs people will tell you otherwise. I would have sold enough bitcoin to cover my original investment and keep the rest, but do not listen to me, I am not a financial adviser.

NMT_0909

Never sell btc ,just keep adding when you get signal of reversal. BTC is a long term asset , always add in short term fluctuations.dont worry about short term economic volatility. Just hold , add when you are sure that price is going to rally

Sudden_Onions

I don't own any crypto, but the algorithm keeps feeding me posts about how the Clarity Act hasn't affected Bitcoin price or how x movement of the stock market isn't followed by y movement of the BTC price. But I can't work out why anyone would think that connection exists. It strikes me that most of the movement in the market is based on one group of people trying to guess the top and bottom of the price for BTC, and another group of people trying to amass as much as possible. The majority of investors don't view any crypto as being as reliable a store of value as gold or bonds, so you don't get huge inflow in times of strife, or outflow when people want higher returns. Those movements, such as they are, would be drowned out by the people who just stack sats no matter what. Am I wrong?

Romanizer

BTC is not at ATH, therefore a better trade?

OccasionalXerophile

BTC shrugs off rate rises like water off a ducks back

Tall-Ad1293

If the Simpsons prediction actually comes true in 10 years, everyone reading this comment with 0.1 BTC will be driving a Lambo on Mars.

Interesting-Gear-992

BTC core + Fulcrum on a vm (Umbrel), and Sparrow wallet

No_Material4122

BTC wasn't linked to shit

Lavayo

BTC is partly down BECAUSE the stock market is at ATH (AI trade). It can go the other way around, it does not have to make the same move.

tonguhebolcroak9

I'm using changenow for quick swaps, but I'd still compare the final BTC-to-fiat quote, withdrawal fees, KYC requirements, and support history first. Definitely send a tiny test amount before committing the rest, verify every address, and don't leave funds sitting there. Convenience is great, but protecting your sats matters more.

Abject-Issue-6639

When BTC hits 50k in a few months. Ill be here to say. You shoulda stacked Fiat.

Icy_Dragonfruit__

Exactly. It needs more real-world use and merchants actually willing to accept BTC instead of immediately converting it to fiat.

steebulee

Although the stock market is down a bit, we are near all time highs…BTC on the other hand

schdeborah

I'm using changenow for quick swaps, but I'd still compare the final BTC-to-fiat quote, withdrawal fees, KYC requirements, and support history first. Definitely send a tiny test amount before committing the rest, verify every address, and don't leave funds sitting there. Convenience is great, but protecting your sats matters more.

Omniwatch

Infinite paper money vs finite BTC. Make sense to me.

Cygnus_X

I have a decent stash and I'd like the price to rise while simultaneously having more financial tools at my disposal. Deribit allows for physically backed bitcoin options, but US citizens can't use it due to a lack of clear regulation. Options trading on BTC allows people to generate income from holding. Other exchanges that offered the same service in the US have been forced closed. Democrats failing to allow it to pass despite all the compromises that were added to the bill show they are actively against crypto and that is suppressing price discovery in a similar fashion to when China banned its use in the country. I was hoping the US would be more forward thinking than they have been.

No-Librarian9605

Love that it failed. Again, for the fiat bros, you’re doing it wrong if your only concern is fiat price go up. BTC was never about getting the TradFi system involved. It was about avoiding it and becoming more sovereign individuals… But yeah let’s continue to wait on political parasites to tell us how to operate like we always have.

TheRadishBros

Imo BTC staying flat after a rate hike and no Clarity confirms the bottom was in at $58k.

Fluid-Cardiologist96

1 BTC wäre dann 100.000.000 $

gordonfr_

What is the point of ~~most~~all of the posts here anyway? Should discourage everyone to buy any BTC.

harymo-20

Why full of altcoins ..add BTC...do DCA and take opportunity of each dip...

harymo-20

We don't need clarity or something.. but yes buy the deep when you have an opportunities.. I believe in few weeks or days BTC will drop and it's your opportunity to buy

MarioWilson122

By "qualifying Bitcoin," I mean BTC that's been finally forfeited to the U.S. government and is eligible to be placed into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. Simply being seized doesn't automatically qualify it, since things like victim restitution, ownership claims, or other legal obligations may come first.

No_Community7021

I don't see how BTC becoming a currency is any good. I think it becoming a currency is the death of it.

DaaNL_4448

Bitcoin doesn't do sh#t either 🤣 There are alts around that have way more real purpose than BTC.

No_Champion2428

I think it is still a good range for DCA but keep your expectation realistic. Gone are the days where BTC can do 50 - 100x 1 cycle. BTC have reach the point of diminishing returns. i think it could still do 2 or 3x from here if you hold long enough. In the end, DYOR and make decision based on the knowledge you have. Holding Cash is also a position if you believe there will be a big sell off soon. Personally i wouldn't time the market since the market always have the way to surprise you.

ChippyCho

I remember a decade ago when news like the clarity act failure would have tanked the price of 50% in a single day.  I see people panicking now, mostly newcomers I guess, while price wise BTC seems not to care at all and I think we've come a long way and we still have a long way to go

TheresNoSecondBest

The 6.15 BTC type of titties.

Comfortable-Toe-5570

I have conviction that bottom is not in. The 50 week moving average has been showing resistance and the price keeps getting pushed below it. 4 hour charts showing lower high. BTC realized price is another reason too. There’s just not been enough time in the bear market yet to justify a good upcoming bull market yet. I’m holding my shorts.

Aazimoxx

That's completely not true haha... BTC is not the only crypto mate. His downfall was any transaction from that hot address being anything other than an ID-less swap to a privacy coin.

ubermensch1001

LOL says the loser trolling someone who specifically talked about making big moves on BTC when it was trading around the 200 week moving average. Loser

booyahbroski

And yet there will still only ever be 15 million BTC…the hardest asset IN THE WORLD!!

copyofa_

Yeah I’m stoked on this! I’ve been wondering how to use YubiKeys for BTC wallets for years. Well done. I gotta check this out tomorrow. Neat.

Abject-Issue-6639

No. They already own the BTC. Big difference and they continue to siphon more daily because they have the government in their back pocket. I was specifically referring to Microstrategy which has a Stock that is Tied to BTC and now can cause manipulation to the price by just simply selling or saying hes buying to make it go up. I feel like you are extremely nieve to trust people like Michael Saylor and Larry Fink. Bitcoin is no longer decentralized in the way it was meant to be because they can inflate stock thats tied to it. Seriously dude. Go take an economics class or something and stop falling for every shiny object they shove in your face.

Heavyinbitcoin

You literally said certain people/companies "shouldn't be allowed to buy BTC"

Patrick_Atsushi

It worst it's "no good news, no bad news". And BTC barely moved.

Best-Bodybuilder9015

Yes surprisingly BTC might have finally decoupled from tech

Ragnogrimmus

Yeah but that was hot on trump elected and a hot sentiment. Honestly i think crypto has cooled off. You will need another fire storm to push that sky high. The raising of rates and inflation are the main reasons why the clarity act didn't get a chance to proceed. When BTC flies so does some of the markets too.

Ragnogrimmus

Hmmm oh no BTC would have flown well into 90s and beyond if it passed. Minor pull back if not. Minor to significant pull back

ubermensch1001

LOL let's just troll the guy who was buying heavily around the 200 week moving average that also gave a breakdown of alt-BTC pairings. Loser

ubermensch1001

[SUI to BTC: Sui Price in Bitcoin | CoinGecko](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/sui/btc?chart=type%3Dprice%26mode%3Dline%26timeframe%3Dmax)

Unlisted_User69420

I’m content sitting on .7509 BTC while I pay for some home repair, cover debt and build my emergency fund.

angelwolf71885

Hope you have a spare buy order for $40k-$55k because that’s the 75% zone from last ATH and with a 1/4 point fed rate incase the recession will likely send BTC there before we know it

Bred_Slippy

The strongest argument for not caring about CLARITY failing isn't DCA discipline, it's that BTC's US regulatory position has largely already been settled without it.

blue2140

Agreed. The BTC bull market is here.

MarioWilson122

That's outdated when it comes to Bitcoin. The U.S. used to auction forfeited BTC, but that policy changed in 2025 with the creation of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. Qualifying Bitcoin that's finally forfeited and deposited into the reserve is specifically not supposed to be sold; the executive order says it "shall not be sold" and is to be maintained as a U.S. reserve asset. There are exceptions for things like returning assets to victims, court orders and certain statutory or law-enforcement requirements, so not every Bitcoin that gets seized automatically ends up in the reserve. Seizure and final forfeiture aren't the same thing either. So saying the government is "not allowed to keep it by law" and must auction it off is backwards under the current Bitcoin policy. The government absolutely can retain forfeited Bitcoin now, and qualifying BTC placed into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve is specifically intended to be kept.

Worldx22

Some people don't care. SWIM traded piles of BTC to USDT and then to cold hard cash in person.

VisitFast9600

That sounds like a decent model, especially if trading adds real value to the gameplay. Using BTC could really spice things up when it comes to transactions too.

BlazingPalm

The strategic BTC reserve would dictate that the US hodls seized BTC. They’re even considering this today in Congress (separate from clarity act)

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BoatsNFoes

We’re getting robbed a bull run!!! Pump it already! Bitcoin and the crypto ecosystem won’t be needing the clarity act moving forward! Once trillions start moving into BTC again, the same will happen to alts because of FOMO. Need to survive these dawg shit years

GrahamPhisher

I think we mean the momentum when we say this, the whole recent rally why XRP even left a dollar was in wait for this vote. I mean as you wrote your comment though XRP is already heading towards 1.27 after a knee jerk reaction to it touching 1.25 which there was probably a lot of left over limit orders at. I mean O know personally bought 1.25 and sold at 1.30, for a quick scalp... I think we'll see where it corrects to by the weekend, I have a feeling we won't return to 1.00 for XRP or 60k for BTC, we'll probably float around 1.20 and lower 70s.

UnitedStatesAirFurs

BTC at $75k, XRP at $1.30, ETH at $2400 The Internet: Is crypto dead? 3:

SPedigrees

Protonmail and imgbb both accept BTC payments for upgrades. (They both accept Bitcoin directly into a receiving address.) A word to the wise, avoid merchants using BitPay. That platform now requires ID. Sad... I used it for many purchases back in the day, before the surveillance state took over.

OccasionalXerophile

BTC Maxi in the wild

Mysandwichok

Well it's going to be the only way when 100% KYC coverage comes in. It will be people that either don't know where it's coming from because they don't research, or money mules which scammers use all the time already. "Hey post $10k cash to my mule and I'll transfer you $15k worth of BTC."

Martymations

Unpopular Opinion- We can use USDC/USDT as currency but not BTC

Kommandant_Milkshake

I think the bottom is in. Look how BTC smashed thru the 200 week moving average. The last two bear markets, this signaled the end of the downturn. When we were at $60k in the summer, Saylor was selling, the cold card hack happened, and yet we still struggled to dump below $60k. Currently, the clarity act failed and rates were hiked and we’re still around $75k. I think sellers are exhausted so now is a good time to buy.

BoatsNFoes

BTC we trust

BoatsNFoes

Let me just hold 1 BTC haha

Secret_Operative

Time to put the ROTH IRA back into BTC? 

Ok_Wrongdoer_4308

Hope the top is higher so we can retire with our 7+ BTC. I’m tired of working.

pushdose

Spend and replace. The more we normalize using BTC for transactions, the more it becomes a viable currency. Lightning network is amazing for small transactions. Use it!

coinvestic

Tiene sentido que suene raro a primera vista — "¿por qué perseguir un fraude dentro de algo ya ilegal?" — pero legalmente son dos cosas separadas. El gobierno no lo acusó por usar Silk Road (eso habría sido más difícil de probar contra él directamente en ese momento), sino por el propio acto de explotar un fallo del sistema de pagos para generar retiros duplicados, que constituye fraude electrónico independientemente de dónde ocurriera. Es la misma lógica por la que a alguien que roba a otro ladrón igualmente se le puede acusar de robo — el contexto ilegal del "escenario" no blanquea el delito específico que cometió dentro de él. Y como dices, el interés real del gobierno probablemente era doble: sentar precedente legal sólido (fraude es más fácil de probar y aplicar que perseguir toda la operación de Silk Road contra él individualmente) y, sobre todo, la confiscación de 3.400M$ en BTC — eso siempre pesa mucho en este tipo de casos.

BoatsNFoes

Keep stacking BTC

Effective_Engine319

Sell things or services and accept BTC as payment. Spend BTC when you encounter vendors who accept it.

Historical_Candle511

Erm, BTC value is looking a lil wobly rn if you ask me

CyanDew

the way i see it is, as Bitcoin continues to move higher in dollars, Bitcoin buys you more and more things. but the psychological aspect of getting a 100% gain on your position, requires an even higher valuation. people are going to desire 100% gains on just about anything they invest in; bare minimum. which is why when (not if) BTC finds a bottom around $120K next bear market, the only way to see 100% gains is to have it reach a quarter million dollar valuation. this $120K bottom and $250K high will attract eyes and questions from more people as they wonder, “okay what the heck is Bitcoin?” and they end up traveling down the same rabbit hole of the same question we all ended up asking ourselves before delving into Bitcoin, which is, “what is money anyway?” this is the question that flips the world on its head, and simultaneously, by the time Bitcoin reaches $250K, the world will be an entirely different place with entirely different prices and entirely different perception of value — thus justifying the price that Bitcoin stands at. the price of BTC in USD is nothing more than an instrument of measuring how much debasement of value the dollar, and thereby the rest of the world’s assets, have experienced. TLDR: Bitcoin will continue to attract more investors as the price continues to rise and time keeps passing, justifying the higher prices and the greater adoption of finite money. it’s inevitable from a psychological perspective.

TheresNoSecondBest

I don't think so. Bitcoin isn't like government fiat where the buyer is forced to buy it. It's in most cases the only way to get paid and pay taxes. OTOH Bitcoin is open to anyone. People can join and leave as they wish. Nobody's forcing anyone to buy it. I'm a BTC buyer, and I don't feel getting scammed. Perhaps the people saying that have no idea what Bitcoin is.

oopssomething

BTC just plummeted 1k and you ask for good news?

cuteman

People say BTC buyers are getting scammed as well. Are they right?

tapakip

Rate hike long since priced in because of the market certainty. Clarity act wasn't as certain so we saw BTC drop $2k at the time.

LongjumpingFinish297

Thanks for the response. I agree with the stable coin point; I don't see it as an improvement over fiat. As long as the agent is conducting in legal activity, isn't there no more risk to confiscation than what BTC also has? (BTC can get confiscated too if associated with wire fraud as we've seen). Your vision of agents acting with real world also assumes that the real world counterparts will accept BTC, whereas all of them already accept the USD. I can also agree that banks could possibly freeze funds for illegitimate reasons, but I highly doubt this is a real ongoing issue in credible banks. Even if it was, the probability of it happening versus the probability of a volatile swing in your account balance don't seem to be even close to comparison. I don't agree that credible banks could confiscate (as opposed to freezing) funds for illegitimate reasons. Do you have any references to that happening? Seems like there are far more benefits to using USD over BTC for agent transactions, so I just don't see mass adoption happening. Losing your whole account balance id demand growth for BTC significantly drops versus extremely small chance of having funds temporarily frozen just seems like an obvious choice for any business.

FitCompetition1804

True, but the reason why I’ve been daily DCA’ing since February is to hedge my bet against these things not happening. There is no definites in BTC. I’ve been spot buying at lower levels to increase my position and had larger, laddered limit orders starting at $54k down to $42k that I recently cancelled after this latest run up as I reassess my strategy. So far, so good with this approach, I have a decent position already versus just waiting for the $40k’s like many were. Very few are going to get it exactly right, so this “50/50” approach has worked for me.

allg33k

TLDR: fill your bags and hodl The Genius Act (Stablecoins) also failed a cloture vote before ultimately passing. It's definitely a bummer this didn't go through, but I don't think it's dead just yet. I think the path to getting it passed is much harder but it will end up happening. It's clear to these representatives that there needs to be some regulation. There was a vote put in by Tillis at the end that was for a "no" so that he could put in the motion for it to stay alive. You can read what he said in this article: [https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-clarity-act-fails-senate-republicans-vote-with-democrats-12447024](https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-clarity-act-fails-senate-republicans-vote-with-democrats-12447024) Ultimately, from my perspective the SEC/CFTC will provide enough clarity for things to keep moving. Also, it not going to change the fact that the stock market and banks in the us & abroad are moving to crypto rails. The industry will keep growing like it has since BTC was first released. This is just a speed bump. It's one that bummed me out. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to see this bear market come to an end and the market start to rip again. I wouldn't doubt it that the Dems plan is to push this past the election so they have more leverage to get what they want in the bill. Then they can also come back and say "We were the ones that brought you Clarity!!!"

mrcruz29

ZCASH is FAKe BTC

babypho

Correct, hence my comment about getting in early. If we look at the raw value, it's a lot, but percentage wise, there's a diminishing return right now. If you time it, you can be up by targeting the bull runs to sell. But timing the market lose out in the long run. If you're a hodler, the 5 year BTC chart is underperforming VOO by 20%. That isn't to say people shouldn't diversify and hold bitcoin, but it's certainly not a freedom asset even if it recovers to $125k, or even 2x to $250k.

Full-Astronaut7576

BTC is a very inefficient algorithm; it wastes too much energy.  It is better to own fiat currency; at least it is backed by the state.  BTC is bullshit; I prefer to HODL XRP. BTC is not physical like my money. At this point I really doubt mainstream is going to understad BTC. I prefer not ti discuss in public. 

Horror_Pitch_63

I tend to disagree, especially when dealing with drug money. I'd I was a drug load or hacker or any illegal activities that made hundreds of thousands, I'd be shuffling the BTC around to new wallets lol. However, you said he sat on it this entire time... At his house lol

thatsadmotherfucker

Please BTC Gods drop it back to 40k we can buy more on sale