BTC

No_Giraffe_4647

This is the point if you have invested in a risky asset your target figure for retirement should be at least twice the one you would need on diversified ETF portfolio for instance. So instead of targeting 1 million in ETF/ mutual fund you will need 2 million worth of BTC or even more to balance that risk

t0m0hawk

Also sitting on some FBTC. Its awesome that we have it available. That's why all the fud around the drop has been hilarious - theres a lot of capital in BTC. This is an asset that's here to stay.

watch-nerd

BTC isn’t a hard asset, though. And it has failed to correlate with inflationary

inbeforethelube

This is part of it but you don't even have to get all doom and gloom to see why BTC for trade makes sense. If Country X wants to trade with Country Y the only option is the EuroDollar. Trading in BTC completely eliminates that as you can trade in BTC and convert to your local currency immediately without a middleman. Today the EuroDollar handles that, you go from X currency, to Y, then to Z, then do Euro or Dollar, the other trading partner does the same. What BTC changes for trade is immense.

Successful-Win-8035

Get outta here Eth and BTC. TON is taking aim to dominate during this drop!

Awkward_Potential_

They'd be able to try to get to 2 BTC much easier.

dormango

Of course it did. People spent billions with ftx to thinking they were buying bitcoin only for ftx to fraudulently pass the money to alameda for them to trade with and not purchase and hold BTC as they should have.

t0m0hawk

Not just boomers. Super advantageous to be able to have some BTC exposure in something like a TFSA. A lot of flexibility with no taxes on gains. This millenial is super stoked about BTC ETFs.

Blockchainauditor

There is a humor tag. The August 2010 10,000 BTC for two Papa Johns Lazlo pizza trx is well documented, the parties known, and NOT the first transaction.

Distinct-Presence52

Listen here teach, your gonna want to ape that 5k into 3 coins. 2.5k into BTC, 1.5k into ETH and the last 1k into something like XLM or NANO. Now you can always drop my suggestion for the last 1k and do whatever you like with it but keep the btc and eth for longterm holding. Extra points if you wait for a nice low point when buying the eth and btc, set a limit order so it buys as soon as the price is where you want it to be.

Nzo2006

Consider me very new to this. But i am also expecting and waiting for it to go down further more possibly to the >50 range then i will start buying maybe a bit more comfortably , Albeit I don’t do BTC but everything is connected to it either way. I always read , every time people are waiting for it to go down the opposite happens 😂 , We will live and see.

GPThought

Sovereign wealth funds getting into BTC is the ultimate validation. These are the most conservative, long-term-oriented capital allocators on the planet. When they start treating Bitcoin as a legitimate reserve asset, it's game theory in action - once one major fund moves, the FOMO for the rest becomes existential.

imwco

Yes because while 1BTC = 1 BTC tomorrow $1 does not equal $1 tomorrow

CutFabulous1178

One Day, Max Fear BTC Price $600,000

penty

Check out the Bitcoin Rainbow Chart: https://www.blockchaincenter.net/en/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/ The 2023 ver isn't perfect but it's a good quick indicator of what seems outlandish and what isn't. It lists the BEST case BTC equals $1 million but Apr 2028.

penty

Way back in 2012-13, that's how I decided how much to buy. Figuring if 1 sat eventually equals 1 penny how much is 1 BTC worth... Then screwed up the decimal and solved for 1 sat =100k.

KaijuNoza

Self custody. Never leave your BTC on the exchange the exchange can fail and you lose. If you want an easy way to self custody use Bitkey

PovasTheOne

Anyone still into shitcoins at this point is a moron ( me ) BTC maxi is the only, imo, reasonable investment strat in Crypto.

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RandomLemonHead

See my response below. Transaction fees would have to be absurd to replicate the mining revenue, that alone would either require a "maxi" like price for BTC and/or exponential volumes from here. Or the price of doing a BTC transaction will be so high that the actual utility of BTC will be mitigated.

Either_Junket6500

BTC on the daily is kinda in no mans land, the 50 and 100 daily ma are above $86k, even the previous low was above $80k. I'm looking at the hourly, the range it has been in for a few days and the moving averages looking for potential entries. What's your view like? https://preview.redd.it/q4ff03gpsjig1.jpeg?width=1884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=254579100551fb4de01ffb213075216fb80e996d

RandomLemonHead

Right now there are 900 bitcoin mined per day, so $63M, however only about 3 BTC in fees generated per day so $210K if I'm reading this right. So the amount of fees generated would have to increase by 300X to support the same on-chain revenue for miners. Granted that could be via price appreciation or more transactions, but also say 50-100 years the price of power will be substantially higher. So we are talking about maybe a 1000-2000X increase in transaction revenue to sustain the network long term. That is a big barrier in my opinion.

Opposite_Cold8616

If BTC is adopted globally, transaction fees will be enough to keep efficient miners alive. If not the entire premise fails. There isn't really an in between end goal. Since the last BTC won't be mined until 2140 or so, neither of us will live long enough to find out.

The_Bitcoin_Act

Total U.S. spot Bitcoin ETF holdings sit around 1.27 million BTC (valued near $90 billion at prevailing prices), representing about 6% of Bitcoin's total supply.

Mundane-Visit-152

Yeah, that sideways BTC action is exactly the kind of spot where my tool helps. I built a small confluence filter that looks at higher-timeframe alignment and tells me one thing only: are conditions worth trading, or is it no-man’s land. When it’s mixed, I don’t even look for entries, it keeps me from forcing trades while price chops. I mostly use it on BTC to wait for the next real move instead of guessing direction. If you want, I can show you the BTC view I’m using and you can see if it fits how you trade.

Fantastic-Two1110

Even if BTC reaches 200k next cycle the return is dog shit. It's been killed by stocks and gold over the last 5 years. Dimishing returns of 50 percent every 4 years is shite considering how volatile and risky this is.

Quantum_Pineapple

Dude THIS. Not even just saying so because BTC.

We_DemBoys

My goal is to lock in my gains before I start drawing down in retirement.....which equals = selling my BTC. 😲 😱. Then only keep a smaller position in my portfolio...maybe 5% as a retiree.

RandomLemonHead

Sad! I am really having an existential re-evaluation on my BTC. I am emotionally invested and philosophically invested but I cannot shake these questions. Last week to me was the greatest indicator that the cycle is intact, prior I still had anticipation that we could recover. Ever since first entering the space I really haven't gotten a good answer to my questions about how the network is sustained once the mining rewards are 0 or essentially 0.

Either_Junket6500

I get you. Yeah that would be good to see. I've been watching BTC, but the last few days it's pretty much being going sideways, I'm hoping to get a good entry for the next movement, i feel like it's going to be a decent one either way.

Alexbobica

You are right. Sorry, around 20% into altcoins, low-caps. Generally speaking, those are approximate allocations. Mostly have my funds in BTC. I had 50% in BTC and 50% in ETH, but then I decided to improve BTC positions and have something in ETH still, but added SOL, 5% each.

TheRabbitHole-512

It didn’t, it just made users believe their balance in BTC was amount, they would have to withdraw their BTC for it to be real

nafnaf0

Yep, a while back I calculated around a $31k BTC price they would have real problems and be forced to sell, which could cause a further crash, which would cause them to be forced to sell even more...

Rare_Rich6713

Just DCA, go fully into BTC, stake it if you can. I feel the bottom is close.

nafnaf0

MSTR is a structurally leveraged Bitcoin vehicle. They do all sorts of crazy things to basically expand their ownership of Bitcoin. If BTC gets into bull market again it will trade for a significant premium to the net asset value of the bitcoin they own. In a bull run they will also attract additional investor capital allowing them further BTC accumulation, amplifying the premium. MSTR also generally offers corporate bonds but with zero coupons and sold at par. How do they do this? Because they offer conversion premiums to MSTR stock during the entire period of the bond. Some of their pas bonds have been basically entirely converted. People buy them because it gives upside exposure to BTC, but basically no downside risk (you just your money back but out the opportunity cost of the money). This allows MSTR to raise large amounts of capital a very low interest rates that mos others simply can not. Michael Saylor has said they generally want to be leveraged around 20% o 30%, which really isn't that high. This is just one of several products / schemes they have going. Michael Saylor and team have really cooked up all sorts crazy (unconventional) products / strategies.

northcasewhite

Just the like blocksize war created a massive alt rally in 2017. People were looking for an alternative to BTC. Look at how people are now looking into BCH. They will look for others too. Most people don't know that ETH was disliked by much of the community in 2015 and then in 2016 they started to see it as an alternative to BTC because of the small blockers.

MikaelAbou

I cannot fathom how some people really think they’ve figured it all out and that an asset could never possibly surprise. If anything can surprise its BTC. While you and 90% of others sell and expect lower prices, BTC will rip and leave you behind forever ✌️

nafnaf0

STRD is engineered to attract assets and improve outcomes for investors. I believe it is doing this at the expense of diluting the MSTR stock, but the capital they raise from sales of STRD is used to buy more BTC, which in theory then helps grow the stock.

XysterU

Sooooo anyone can steal your money by getting near your hand with an nfc device and you wouldn't even know it happened? I hope he did some authorization step on his phone before this. Id rather tap to pay BTC with a phone that requires a PIN/biometric to send BTC

RandomLemonHead

2nd response - I still think BTC IF ADOPTED has parabolic return potential and societal benefits, but that adoption is being threatened by the points Ive made above in my opinion.

RandomLemonHead

This is fair, but in some sense the money printing has continued to occur, inflation is high and BTC is regressing. S&P has a 100 year history of tracking money supply. Maybe it is just an unfavourable period for BTC right now and it will come back, but there is a lot of sentiment from investors noticing some of the shifts I've noted above. My resolve is really being tested, I rode the 2022 bear down the full way and added on dips the whole time. so its not paper hands from me, but more a re-assessment of where the next 5-10 years could go. Want to make sure I'm not missing blind spots.

DD-777

Hi, I'm interested in having my understanding of BTC critiqued, and I made a short document that sums up my understanding and thought about BTC. I would appreciate anyone's feedback on this, thanks. What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin, perhaps even cryptocurrency in general, is simply a chain of digital signatures representing current and previous ownership – of the Bitcoin token, I assume (Nakamoto, 2008). It was developed as a solution to the trust placed in third parties to ensure the legitimacy and validity of exchange of currency via the internet between two parties, ensuring that money was not double-spent on the internet, which is typically easily avoided with physical cash (Coin Bureau \[CB\], 2023; Nakamoto, 2008). In this new system, cryptography and hashing are used to create, secure, and document the exchange of Bitcoin via a network of trusted computers, known as nodes, that collectively ensure that documentation is fundamentally unalterable and decentralized by having them collectively hold more CPU than attackers and outpacing attackers by adding new transactions much faster than attackers can keep up (Nakamoto, 2008). These are hosted by everyday people, and they ensure that the system remains decentralized, which means nobody holds a high concentration of power. The initial issue with digital currencies, also known as cryptocurrencies, was that there was no way to check if a person had double spent their digital mint (Nakamoto, 2008). Nakamoto’s (2008) solution was a timestamp server that timestamped each transaction; published it publicly in a digital ledger; included the previous transactions timestamp as well; and was confirmed by a network of nodes that hold onto copies of the ledger as well – this is known as the blockchain these days (CB, 2020). These would done through a hash, a form of encryption that changes an input (i.e., transaction timestamps and digital signatures) into a solvable but incredibly difficult slurry of letters and numbers (Investopedia, 2025). Bitcoin, also known as BTC or XTC, is now considered a form of digital gold and protection from inflation (CB, 2023). Its value is derived in large part because of scarcity as only 21 million will ever exist; however, it also is valuable because of its security and transactability as it can be, theoretically, exchanged across borders at any time and by anyone with some form of internet connection (CB, 2023; Kelleher, 2025; Nakamoto, 2008). Furthermore, no government owns it so it cannot be devalued by increased distribution (i.e., the government cannot devalue BTC by making more than 21 million), and the limits of the cryptocurrency inherently make anti-inflationary (Kelleher, 2025). Personal Thoughts BTC has been an exciting topic from a personal standpoint as I see its value as a currency that restores the people’s control of money instead of relying in 3rd party institutions and centralizing control. However, despite its decentralization, security, scarcity, and seemingly agreed upon value in the current year of 2026, I remain skeptical because of the lack of backing as nothing other than the digital signature exists when evaluating value. However, one might argue that it does not matter as, despite the lack of any meaningful backing, 20% of all the BTC that will ever be created is owned by institutions; and cryptocurrency has become a topic of heavy discussion in policy and business (BitcoinTreasuries.net, 2026; CB, 2026). However, here’s the real kicker for me, and this is purely a thought on my part. Now, I’m not going to bother to go look it up, but BTC was created primarily because of disillusionment in third-party financial companies and money after the 2008 crash. It was supposed to replace money and remove third-parties. However, in 2026, BTC is incredibly valued in my opinion because people keep putting money into it. The very thing that BTC was supposed to replace has become its backing. Thus, its value is backed by a constantly devaluing asset, and the only reason that it holds any increasing value is because of a collective effort to increase its value by having people constantly put money into it. Its not a hedge against anything, but its hedge like effect will only exist for the people who cash-in before the rest do.

tehdamonkey

The trouble with crypto there is nothing really to support it other than sentiment. Gold and silver are strategic metals and are used in industry, etc... so they will always have a demand. BTC is just what the horde feels like pricing it as. It will go back up in time, but will always swing like this for perpetuity.

Scuttlefuzz

That is possible but it highlights a key difference between BTC and alts. If monetary expansion is necessary for alts to see meaningful ATHs then why doesn't the same apply to BTC? BTC was able to set a new high in tight conditions, I believe we are seeing the cracks in the speculative value of alts starting show and as more and more coins are minted, we are seeing liquidity siphoned away from "blue chips" to coins with higher short-term potential (because their only current applicable value is speculation). It will be interesting to see how the market performs during a monetary expansion but as of right now (assuming no covid level injections) the risk return for BTC is only going up against alts whilst also diminishing against tradfi. And all I am seeing in the comments is a disturbing amount of people ready to ride their utility coins into the void.

thistimelineisweird

I actually would find it quite hilarious if companies that ditch BTC move to AI and get wrecked.  I am clearly biased, but it does feel like FOMO which is always a recipe for disaster.

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fan_of_hakiksexydays

Yea, BTC news has had waaay worst things than Epstein putting his money in the project. This is one of the weakest ones, and one that will be ancient history by next month. Plus, the story was blown out of proportion. They made it sound like Epstein was the founder of BTC, when all that was found is that he indirectly funded people connected to the team.

AlbatrossNew3633

Relax bro, he'll recoup the 10 dollars 1000x once BTC crosses the $200,000 mark 💪🏼 🍌

NinjaWithSpoons

If someone taps your ring or steals it, they get all the BTC in your wallet? Similar to a CC but with a CC the institution will refund your money so it's safer no?

erjo5055

I agree regarding the blue chip alts, though I think the ATH issue is more about 2021 being free money fueled mania and 2025 occurring under tighter monetary conditions. I think ETH/SOL will likely have meaningful new ATHs in 2028, though I still think BTC is the best risk adjusted return.

Free_Entrance_6626

It does matter because if you can buy 1 BTC at 70k, you can buy 1.4 BTC at 50k, which will multiply the gains by 40% (additional $200k in your example) instead of just $20k. Also, the "right approach" I believe is to DCA half your money and save the other half in cash for a dip later this year.

grayjacanda

BTC had been bopping around near 70K since bouncing of the resistance at 60K There is not yet a real uptrend or momentum. If it breaks up past 71.5 you could at least point to a series of slightly higher highs (71.3, 71.5, 71.x) that showed a modest short term trend or channel, but it hasn't yet done that. Even if it does, it would be more suggestive of chop in the medium term i.e. neither up nor down for a little while. Failing to make that third high would suggest a retest lower. In a longer term context you'd want it to test and break past the fib retrace somewhere in the low 80s before you could talk about real upward momentum.

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CauliflowerOk9195

I think what they are Not saying but what this might include is that the average (new) btc Investor shows different market behaviour than the average stock investor. That might be a strong case für BTC at first glance as they seem to panic later than expected but who says they don't panic at all? There might be a price at which an above average amount panic sells triggering an even larger sell off. So my take away is: we know the average BTC Investor is different to a stock investor but we lack any experience or data how different and what exactly might result from that. That is not a lot. Or am i missing something?

TheresNoSecondBest

Wallets on r/thelightningnetwork usually show sats instead of BTC. You can also set a maximum per transaction in the app, connected to the ring.

PerceptionOk8543

Except every other market is regulated and can’t be manipulated this easily. They have total freedom here and nothing will happen to them no matter how hard they crash and burn everything. Not to mention other things on the market have actual value while BTC couldn’t find a use case for so many years now and is a purely speculative asset. Just look up Strategy, it’s not that hard. They will be in trouble if BTC enters bear and will be forced to sell. You will se a true crash then, one that might kill the market entirely. One entity holds so much power over the entire market, that itself speaks volume.

qpv

I think he bought bananas with BTC because he wanted some bananas and had some BTC.

OptimalPlantIntoRock

Why? Cash is less traceable than BTC.

Carls86

I started using it last year, and the [coingecko](https://www.coingecko.com/) widget is working great on my Android so far. iirc they just refreshed their widget a few months ago. I especially like the lock screen widget, which I can see prices directly without unlocking screen. Saved a ton of time for me. Besides, if you want platforms that aggregate directly from exchanges, most serious ones do their own ingestion anyway, but coverage is still very different. Like for BTC-only, there are tools connected closely to exchange order books or on-chain data but they're.. less polished, so to say.

Scuttlefuzz

Those are the blue chips I am talking about. If you bought SOL/ETH at the peak last cycle, you barely made a profit on paper, more than likely they held assuming it would higher and are now at a loss or sold at a loss. Same goes for XRP except this applies to 2018 top blasters. New alts that can run on hype can probably see some short-lived gains but alts in general are not in a good spot when BTC is now the only one that can truly break new ground cycle to cycle. I think the "speculation" phase for long term alts is done, it's going to take real use cases and adoption to have sustained upside. Those charts are not going to paint a pretty picture with the way things are going. Of course you can always be a cycle trader, buy the pico bottom and get out whenever, but viewing these as HODL because it's never going to zero might be a big mistake.

Historical-Olive-630

I know. You can use BTC in MANY different ways. I was being a sarcatic dick to the BTC naysayers.

Freeman935

BTC a̶n̶d̶ ̶E̶T̶H̶ ONLY. Here, fixed it for you

KryptoSC

The key thing to understand is that you constantly replenish your BTC stack on a weekly or daily basis. So if I plan on spending 100k sats (~$70) in food this week then I’ll make sure to buy at least that much in sats before the week is over. It’s more about the principle of getting off the Visa/MC/ApplePay grid.

erjo5055

For 98% of coins I agree. Most are useless shitcoins, but there are a few exceptions with some form of future. I believe ETH, SOL and maybe XRP will likely be around in some form for quite awhile. BTC has already won its place though, the others are still battling.

northcasewhite

You will be wrong! BTC will ATH in 2026 or 2027. >Eth was like $125 a pop at one point  Do you realize ETH went from less than a dollar to $1400 in 2 years? It was bound to crash that much regardless of covid and it did fall so much before covid.

northcasewhite

Were you here in in the previous bear markets? They said BTC will go down to 1k in 2019 and 9k in 2023. What happened was the sellers got exhausted and the only ways left to go are sideways or up. Eventually it goes up an new narratives are used. The key is there are always people buying and the selling can't go on forever.

Substantial-Sea3046

when you have accumulated enough BTC

Legal-Ad4972

I don't understand how anyone is getting rekt unless you are selling at a loss. Say you tell me my home is worth 100 million dollars today, that does me no good because I don't want to sell it right now. My point is, the value in between purchase and sell point doesn't matter to me. What matters is the cost when I want to sell it. Being that my time horizon for BTC is another 20 years. I emotionally expect all sorts of ups and downs and dont care. The money I have in BTC is thrown away money to be forgotten about. If emotionally the fluctuations are impacting you, you should get rid of your BTC and know that asset isn't for you, or you should stop checking the price. Also, Reddit and all media is full of bots designed to get people to sell and buy when they want. So maybe I'm responding to a bot right now, I don't know. So I should never base my investments off of social media.

Street_Outside_7228

Without BTC they would have never existed. You don't need it? Then leave it. Some of us wana use it.

RocksteK

Yes, but it won’t. The Clarity Act did not cause the market to go down, although it might have contributed to what was already happening. If it passes, it ain’t gonna put money in people’s pockets to invest in BTC.

devCheckingIn

Bro you're not going to make "life changing gains in 2-3 years" by holding a stock index, nor by holding good assets like gold or BTC unless you time your entry properly and get out on the pump. The gaslighting here is unreal.

Life-Republic2311

Let BTC be the people’s choice 💎

Scuttlefuzz

Actually, yeah, to zero (for alts). I don't know how anyone can look at the performance of all of the major alts this last bullrun and not see that things are actually different. Since when did buying a "blue chip" at the top in a previous cycle = still being in the red or breakeven if you were able to sell the new "top". Nothing has changed for BTC, unsurprisingly, but the future for alts looks bleaker than it ever has.

Nishkiiiii

Congrats mate. I hope the prices drop more during this year so I can at least own a quarter of BTC

NonVideBunt

I have a crystal ball. You sold at the high… took profits.. buy low… and then with all the profits you should have put into something other than BTC … you’ll ride BTC into the ground or sell eventually at a loss and cry. So unrealized profits, futures losses.

Historical-Olive-630

But but but how will you use BTC for everyday goods....watch...

Expensive-Paint-9490

Naked short-selling is used again and again and again to manipulate traditional securities price, and "authorities" treat a mistake that affected a single exchange as a "structural flaw" of BTC? People really have no shame.

Ge_Yo

Self custody still matters because the main risk is counterparty failure, not just unclear terms. That’s why the trustless BTC vault direction is interesting: using BTC as collateral with rule based locks while keeping control, instead of trusting a company. My line is simple: if I can’t exit cleanly or my BTC can be re lent by someone else, it’s a no.

Notoriousrb

He's selling his personal BTC to strategy or getting kickbacks from the OTC desk. There's no way you can get fills this bad.

Tothemoon2002

Big financial institutions can also sell their positions, And people can sell ETFs, BTC is too secure to fail (go to zero), but the price could still go up or down.

Willing_Gas7868

You’re not wrong - retail BTC scalping is mostly a fee game, not a skill game. Exchanges don’t lower BTC fees because they monetize its liquidity. HFT firms make scalping work using maker orders, volume tiers, rebates, and API execution, not 1m charts. If you’re hitting market orders, the spread + taker fee kills your edge every time. If you want to dive deeper into why this happens (fees, liquidity, execution models, and what actually works), nihoncasi has clear breakdowns on market structure that explain this well. TL;DR: BTC isn’t the problem - your execution model is.

Zukkus

Do some people actually borrow money to buy BTC? (Genuinely asking) Sounds a little scary to me.

Tha_NexT

Brother the only reason you don't believe in the cycle now is because you guys are disappointed that the gains have diminished returns. BTC looks like it will get pretty boring

Chambana_Raptor

HOW are these peoole so fucking dumb. I DCA'd during the bear down to a cost basis of <$20K for BTC, <$1500 for ETH, like TWENTY FIVE for SOL. Started my sell ladders after BTC crossed last cycle's ATH. Timed the top almost perfectly this time with over 50% of my BTC holdings sold ~$120K. It was hovering there for MONTHS. It was SO easy. HOW did these morons not sell?? Not even a LITTLE profit taking?? I went almost 10X on SOL. Kept with tradition and rode the DOGE waves for what...5X all in? Only thing I didn't quite get out of was ETH but I still made enough to triple the buys I made during the last winter, when the next one comes. Now my profits have been rotated into foreign index funds that are up almost 30% in 6 months (always bet against Trump!). In a year, I'm going to start stacking back up. And most of this sub will still be idiots. Whatever, I guess. Thanks for being our exit liquidity, gang 🤑

qTzz

If the users withdraw the bitcoin it still comes from the exchanges wallet. Its not like you can print BTC out of thin air. Someone has to pay.

Key_Reason_1358

Anyone....ANYONE that was buying when it was 100k is choking up for sure... But thats under the assumption that these same people was dumb enough to just sit on it and not buy/sell alts during the dumps and would've used that BTC to power their other investments before where we are currently today. But yeah......those that bought BTC and sat on it like they're RRSPs?! Yea...y'all are looking at all this crypto right now like you just blindly joined a cult and drank the Kool-aid. 🫠🤣💀 All I gotta say is......you've already gone THIS far.....why stop now?!? LoL! 🤡🤞📉📉📉📉📉

elitesense

No reason you can't spread your investments across many things, including S&P. BTC is only ~5% of my investments.

Queasy-Improvement29

Who said the revolution would be "BTC going up" ?

Substantial-Pop-1029

Are you actually swapping crypto for gold/silver right now during this dip, or just HODLing/Buying more BTC/ETH?

Schrezberatina

Were the 1,788 BTC withdrawn from the exchange?

scorpiofiredragon76

When would you predict BTC is up to ath again? What’s the timeframe?

Stainless-Bacon

The halving cuts BTC inflation by half. It is already below 1%, which is negligible. Will a 0.5% drop in inflation really be the catalyst the next cycle?

GPThought

The genesis wallet is like Bitcoin's Rosetta Stone - every transaction to it gets analyzed to death. Whether it's Satoshi, a tribute, or someone just fat-fingering an address, we'll never really know. What I do know is that 2.5 BTC is a small price to pay to become part of Bitcoin folklore.

quantitativemonkey

A currency really needs to be usable with ease. If you have USD or Euro or Yen etc. you can easily transact with these, or convert between them. But if you have BTC you essentially can't buy things with it but rather you have to convert it back to an actual usable currency like USD.

ThePugz

It’s always time to buy. BTC high, buy. BTC low, buy MORE.

KFC_Tuesdays

I have been holding for ~7 and watching the market to double triple my position for the last ~4 only during this cycle did I make the move. Take a look for a second at the current graph and last cycles graph, the similarities are quite outstanding. It was obvious this was going to play out, how? The price was not moving at all bitcoin usually moves and moves hard and the end of the “4 year cycle” was approaching. As the price fell I sold in chunks and it has allowed me to rebuy at insane prices, I calculate next bull run I can be financially free because of this one move. If I followed your holding advice I’d be no better off than I was 5 years ago. I’ve watched the market soar and fall numerous times I’m no “trader” by any means I just watched the market and how people were behaving and saw this crash from a mile away. It’s so clearly was coming. My points is you’ll never be rich with this holding mindset, it’s a safer route for sure but when I see a chance for financial freedom its worth it to me. the odds id “miss” a run up is very low, where in BTC history do we see a massive drop followed by insane gains right away? We do not. The second we passed key levels it was a selling sign for me and the second we lost “momentum” it told me the peak was hit or near by.

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RandomLemonHead

SP has performed just as well as BTC for the last 5 years, without the insane volatility. BTC showing signs of diminishing returns.

renhiyama

Coinbase went down for me right as BTC broke $62k. Like clockwork. Every single crash, the 'blue chip' exchanges just freeze. Cost me a solid entry.

PermissionPlusFour

As far as I know, they have enough reserves to keep paying dividends for the next two years. They’re also not obligated to actually pay them. So if BTC fails to deliver for a year or two, people might not be so keen on buying STRC/F, especially if no dividends are being paid out.