BTC

MistarMistar

I ordered 3 BTC for $75 each, printed the confirmation and and to the bodega to send the cash via Western union... but got sketched out about sending $150 cash, so grabbed a Arizona ice tea went home and cancelled the order... Very much regretted chickening out on that, especially when FOMOing in over the years most recently when it was over $100k... all these years later DCAing and not even close to 1 BTC yet, and the canceled order for 3 BTC for $150 forever just sitting there.

DangKilla

You’re imagining being wealthier than you are. None of it happens if you don’t hold. You treated it like currency and that’s fine. I also had a few BTC. I was also a millionaire from Nvidia if i stick with your logic

wtftocallmyself

Use bitkey. Accumulate BTC into it then deploy the inheritance feature to secure their future. Too easy.

Mack_Mimsy

You’re not alone. Every old head I know has a similar story. I’ve heard some heaters too. This one dude could have bought his own private island by now. Another mined 300 BTC on his laptop and panic sold when it dropped from $3.00 to $0.30. With the deflationary nature of Bitcoin everyone who spends will have the same stories for the rest of history. But if we spend into circular economies (preferable) then we are contributing to the true nature of bitcoins creation and we can rest easy knowing we’re contributing to an electronic cash system that’s outside the control of government. Keep your head up. Sometimes doing the right thing hurts.

PureRely

Look at this BTC is back to 87k. Look like I was correct about the bears not needing to make noise.

Busy_Rich266

0.6 BTC would be worth $52,647 today, not $76,000

Pure-Jackfruit-95

Depends on lifestyle and where you live. For a comfortable retirement, think ₱15M–₱45M. If BTC hits ₱10M/BTC, that’s roughly 1.5–4.5 BTC. Key isn’t timing or Lambo money, it’s long-term DCA, patience, and using BTC as freedom insurance, not the whole plan.

GreedVault

BTC is definitely undervalued, even my cat knows that.

SwimmingPatience5083

Also the quantum fud is not going away ever, it will continue to weigh on the risk profile of BTC

ForgotMyNameeee

This is the last time to buy BTC below 100k

whataboutbenson

You could be waiting until 28/29 to see a large run up again. Not saying don’t do it, but just be prepared to be in the cold for a long time. And stick to quality assets. At least some BTC. Tbh you shouldn’t only invest in crypto, its future is uncertain.

Seattleman1955

Women are right. The BTC is just to get the women, just like cars and houses.

Myles_Standish250

Right now I have just 1% of my net worth in BTC but I have about 5% in crypto so I’m heavy on the speculative side. I’d rather not say what my net worth is but suffice to say it’s well above average for a 40 year old American.

loupiote2

If bitcoin armory wallet can only secure bitcoin, then the deposit address was a BTC address, not a XRP address. No wallet will let you send XRP to a BTC address. Therefore, your story makes no sense at all. What you describe cannot happen.

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Intrepid-Gas7872

0.5-3.5 BTC

LeYabadabadoo23

Does this sub really think BTC will replace the dollar I find it hard to understand given that its value is measured jn dollars.

JediRebel79

You have enough of everything else lol 100% BTC, before it takes off again

Louis_Gara

Not this stupid shit again… Not every millionaire even wants a BTC, they’re millionaires after all, they’re already rich. I don’t know why people took this “there’s not enough bitcoin for every millionaire” idea and ran with it.

crazy_lolipopp

Rao Paul is still probably thinking BTC will go to 100k before Feb 🤡🤡🤡

Icy-Patient-1880

For 5 years, your BTC/ETH split is solid. That part is hard to argue with. The only thing I’d question is SOL being 35%. SOL is strong, but it’s still an ecosystem bet, not the same category as BTC/ETH. If the goal is long-term survival + compounding, I’d probably flip it closer to BTC/ETH heavy and keep SOL slightly smaller. Something like BTC 40%, ETH 30%, SOL 20%, and the rest in smaller conviction plays could reduce risk without killing upside. Render and Celestia are interesting, but they’re still higher volatility and trend-driven compared to BTC/ETH. Also, if you’re investing 10% monthly, your biggest advantage is consistency. Don’t over-optimize allocations every week. Set rules like rebalancing once every 3–6 months, and avoid chasing whatever is pumping. If you hold through multiple cycles, staying calm matters more than picking “perfect” percentages.

Muddy-Waterz

Bro they have parents that cover any expense. Big emergencies don’t even worry about. But I would still recommend holding a certain amount of dollars at any point just to have it. Like maybe $500 for anything you may not want them involved with ? BTC should be a savings

Over_Entrepreneur100

Yup I already know, but thanks for the reminder that I missed out and should’ve bought 1000BTC before it blew up

Unbalanced_Acctnt

I have no idea what it will do, but have conviction that it will succeed in the long run. I don’t consider myself a maxi because I do carry other investments since I will hopefully retire in the not too distant future. I don’t have the risk tolerance to hold everything in a single asset. I try to keep Bitcoin separate from my portfolio when I think about allocations. To me it’s a different asset class that is currently volatile and not very predictable, but could eventually be more a savings and money vehicle than true investment. I stack sats when I can and believe they will grow in value over time as adoption grows. I don’t worry about or try to guess what that timeline is to get to a certain price in USD. Frankly, the next step in my learning curve is to learn to use it for small regular purchases. I saw btcmap.org in an X post and located some businesses near me that accept BTC. I’ve downloaded the Aqua wallet app and am going to start using it on occasions at retailers who accept it. Just part on my learning curve and an attempt to help increase adoption as a form of money. I don’t have any influence or control over the price of BTC, so I try not to let myself worry about price fluctuations. Although it is more fun to watch when it’s running higher.😁

pablo_in_blood

This - nothing worse than the feeling of selling BTC at a bad time because you have no choice. Keep your fiat debt low and keep enough cash (or gold or something, I suppose) to cover emergencies. Your stack will thank you later

Little_Willow_326

Sell all BTC for the precious things you can, like him gold. The whales are going to pull a rug move when it's time.

ivan971

That's fair and a valid point. Now I could say okay instead of 5 years let's do only 3.5 years, then BTC return to date would be closer to a 3.5x to 4x

Grunblau

Either BTC was a 15 year liquidity sponge to keep everyone out of precious metals… or we are about to see some rotation into actual useful collateral for modern finance. No in between.

Accurate-Chest252

Theoritically 0.3 BTC per millionaire if no bitcoin was never lost..

Mr_Mnply

Bachelor in Psychology and an MBA in finance and international business, 35 years old, work as a healthcare consultant. I believe there will be a big push against fiat currency over the next decade; not just the USA, but worldwide. In the end, I think BTC and other (functional) crypto will be the main use to get paid and complete most transactions. I think that due to geopolitics, functional use in electronics, and distrust in crypto, there will also be a number of people using precious metals as a form of barring for other goods, think when you'd normally use cash like garage sales, paying for the neighborhood kid to cut your lawn, etc.

OkEmu7082

BTC is the "savings account"

Choobtastic

It’s buying time!!!! BTC!!! 

Veronica_JW

BTC and crypto markets have always been cyclical, with periods of outperformance and underperformance. Just zoom back out and see for yourselves. Do you want to buy when others are greedy or fearful?

Deep-Cryptographer61

When the markets and the world is volatile, and nations and people panic. What do they do first? They get rid of risky assets like NVDA, BTC and anything speculative and start worrying about the future. It is human nature

Veronica_JW

You should work towards owning 1 BTC. There are only 21M people who can own 1 BTC. In reality, much less when you account for whales', Satoshi's and other missing wallets.

Carbuncle2024

All I suggest is that if/ when you purchase IBIT you keep a note of the price of BTC when you bought it bc IBIT price is not the same ac BTC. If / when you add to the IBIT fund later, you can then determine your average cost exposure to BTC. 😎

nicholasCageSucks

Gold 5 year return: 175% BTC 5 year return :150%. Fuck i hate a world in which Schiff is right. Fuck this shit

nugymmer

When "Stoneman" and "Sadpuppy" BTC stacks (and also one anonymous address with 8000 BTC from 2009 that has never moved since) suddenly start moving, you'll know we are in REAL trouble. Keywords 8999 BTC, 8000 BTC. Keep an eye on those, since the "Sadpuppy" BTC amount, even though the user mentioned it in their post, is not an easy number to remember, whereas 8000 and 8999 are easy as cherry pie.

Monsterinvestor1

Gold isn’t money anymore — it’s a store of value. Very few people buy physical gold to use. They buy it to hold, hedge against inflation, and protect against failures of fiat systems. Nobody walks into a store shaving off flakes of gold. Same logic applies to Bitcoin. Expecting BTC to function like daily cash misses the point. Value is social agreement + scarcity. Gold has no magical property that makes it “worth” money. It’s: scarce hard to produce durable hard to fake widely trusted That trust took centuries to build. Bitcoin compresses that process into decades using math, cryptography, and network effects instead of metallurgy and empires. Strip away the mythology and it’s the same human behavior playing out in a different century. Bitcoin fits the digital age better than metal does. We live in a world where: wealth moves digitally ownership is abstracted generations trust code more than institutions So a digitally native store of value actually makes more sense than vaulting heavy metal. Gold is hard to move, hard to verify globally, and dependent on physical security. Bitcoin is portable, verifiable, and borderless. That’s not hype—that’s structural advantage. Gold or silver or any piece of metal can be valuable if we deem it to be valuable. Paper money works because people believe tomorrow it will still work. Bitcoin works because people believe the rules won’t change—fixed supply, predictable issuance, decentralized control. That credibility is rare. I am not claiming Bitcoin will replaces everything I am saying it will become one of the most important assets that anyone can hold. Especially for a generation that grew up digital and skeptical of fiat systems If gold is the ancient store of value shaped by history, Bitcoin is the modern experiment shaped by technology. Whether it fully succeeds or not, the idea it introduced—provably scarce digital assets independent of governments—doesn’t go away.

pablo_in_blood

The reason it’s different is that every other form of money can be debased by printing/paper IOUs/etc. Yes, even gold. It’s not that BTC is _merely_ scarce, it’s uniquely scarce, and also has specific functions and properties (ie permissionless cross-national transfer) that other scarce things do not.

Overall-Fold-9720

Literally half this sub said 6 months ago was the last time you could buy BTC below 100k lmao

UT_NG

Really? I thought a Satoshi was the smallest BTC unit.

Jyouzu02

Uh were you sleeping at $120K BTC? If you bought when you should have (in ‘22) you would have hit an 8x return just this past year. Yeah that’s over 3 years, but what’s gold doing these days? 2.5x in the same timeframe? I’ll buy more once it drops more. Actually please keep dooming it bc I’d like another discount.

AmazingfurnitureCT

Oct 10, Gov Shutdown, Japan. BTC hasn’t changed, it on sale

Sweaty_Camel_118

While I mostly agree, there's another perspective. The world is clearly moving away from using our controlled usd as a means of exchange. I think it is very likley that these nations are buying up precious metals to create a currency that has a real backing, possibly brics. If this is the case, gold and silver could both continue to run. One could argue they have been incredibly undervalued because the world has been valuing fake, unpacked currency and that is changing. I am not putting all my eggs in one basket. I am staying diverse. But I'm certainly not afraid to sell a bit more bitcoin to buy gold. I still have BTC as a significantly larger portion of my portfolio than precious metals. Additionally, look at the history of gold when it goes on a run. If it performs the same as it has in previous runs, there is room for more growth.

Vipu2

Crypto yes, BTC will keep ticking 1 block after another.

Vipu2

Time to buy more when $87k BTC is in the "it have failed" moment.

Manateeboi

BTC has no top because FIAT has no bottom.

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

I really look at Tether's mcap to feel things out for what's making the crypto market bouyant. Tether hasn't really printed for the last 40 days, which is VERY uncharacteristic compared to the last several years. There were a couple weeks starting in mid-Dec 2024 where there was no constant slight growth in supply of USDT, and a blip in July 2023 too. Other than that, it's been a slow and steady climb. Once USDT starts to grow in capitalization again, we're going to see significant gains in BTC's price. Frankly, I'm amazed that it hasn't gone down significantly over the past month, considering Tether's stagnation.

tobenvanhoben_

You didn’t fall out of love with “digital gold” you fell for the slogan. Bitcoin isn’t gold. It has no intrinsic demand base, just “next buyer pays more.” Mining costs aren’t a value floor (they’re sunk costs), and scarcity is not store of value. So BTC trades like a high-beta risk asset (tulip dynamics), while gold behaves like a defensive commodity with real-world demand.

Pianoguy_SW

No, crypto will remain: we ARE seeing a wider adoption all over the world, and BTC is higher now than all-time high in the previous cycle. Most of the doom and gloom atm is caused by one man: Donald J Trump. His tariffs-on, tariffs-off game is creating an atmosphere of uncertainty where nothing is certain and nobody dares to invest. The world is even losing confidence in US treasury bonds, for the first time ever. Gold prices are skyrocketing, meaning that investors are losing confidence in the financial system as a whole, and prefer physical assets like gold, who will retain their value irrespective of how reckless a government behaves. I prefer to lay low and wait for the most part. The Orange baboon in the White house will die soon enough, and when he does, the fin. markets will have a rally we haven't seen in a very long time.

Jaded_Look_4044

Let me ask you this: Can you realistically sell hundred of hundreds worth of gold in a split second? Can you bring all of your gold with you if you were to flea your country for some reason? Is gold really a scarce resource, even though it seems like we are discovering/mining more and more of it? Thats why I only buy BTC.

Hot_Philosopher3199

Best. I'll have more BTC

All4fund

China controls ~90% of silver either through mining or refining and on Jan 1 they made it a commodity of national interest that cant be exported without government approval (their new bargaining chip).. microchips, batteries, solar panels and many other essential items still need to be manufactured. The inelastic demand is running into an extreme supply shortage… causing a price run up in silver. Thats not a narrative that’s global economics and a geopolitical trade war. BTC going down as it is… 🤷‍♂️ harder to explain but probably due to Japan raising rates therefore tightening global liquidity pushing speculative investments down. I feel like btc needs a PR firm to step in and teach the masses what it’s potential is and show the path to global wealth for everyone… for the people by the people… if everyone globally started trading in their currency for btc we would ALL BE WEALTHY.

Exotic_Cantaloupe_96

Lots of shit happening around the world at the moment. If global situation stabilises and uncertainty is removed then all the profits from gold and solver goes back into stocks and crypto. If things get worst gold and silver go up another 500% and stocks and crypto get wrecked (BTC suffers the least). What do you bet on?

Hot_Philosopher3199

Minnesota, Tariff Tantrums, Gvt Shutdown. BTC is showing you what the market will do tomorrow

Legitimate-Nobody499

I don’t understand this explanation and I see it a lot. Aren’t there lots of things that are scarce? I’m not disagreeing that BTC is a store of wealth and I expect it to be a long term play (I have a few) but being scarce alone does not make it the next “base layer of wealth”

Demonyx12

So it’s all permanently over for BTC from this point forward? You'd recommend full reallocation from BTC into ETH, SOL, and XMR?

No-Masterpiece2246

Not really. Innovation has ended *on BTC*. Other coins are carrying the torch. BTC will remain a Wall Street plaything and a mostly useless collectible for some time. Small gains are possible but longterm the growth will happen on coins like ETH, SOL, and XMR, that have utility and innovative concepts behind them.

esiob12

Withdrew 12% in November and paid off a lot of the mortgage so I can DCA into BTC harder. Withheld 50% in taxes. Getting a big refund to stack with.

Big-Ad2651

That need trust, but without rules there is lies. USA promise the world its curency would be back by phisical gold. Nations trusted. Then narative and rules changed, all they where left with was paper and new promises that they had to trust. BTC is trustless, I can ''verify'' the rules and every bloc.

Hamachiman

OP makes good points. Similar points were made about silver not long ago. It’s all cyclical. I own BTC, and also precious metals. Fiat currency is losing trust by more and more people.

Big-Ad2651

The price is not important if you bet on the core/concept of it. As long the mecanic function and is the better ''fiat exit option'' avaliable/imaginable, BTC will do what BTC have been conceptualize for.

OkRadish2611

Here is why I think BTC goes lower. I'm expecting a 58K 3 month chart- 20 day moving average is at 58.9k 1 month chart- 50 day moving average is 57.7k 1 week chart- we are sitting at the 100 day moving average. Signs point down. The 200 day moving average sits at 58k. Could be wrong but I'm gonna wait on the sidelines until I see something see something different.

ThatMBR42

"I wanna be a yo-yo man," he cried. "Make me a yo-yo man!" But the BTC price did not answer. It just kept on yo-ing.

SpartanMoonMan

Honestly, I hope you’re right. I wasn’t planning on selling anytime soon anyway. Cheaper BTC would be a gift

anon-187101

any "retail" who doesn't/is unwilling to understand the value proposition of BTC is irrelevant Bitcoin is for anyone, it's not for everyone

brandon_cabral

Funny you post this precisely when BTC price starts dumping but not a week ago when the price was pumping. BTC just hit an ATH 4 months ago crazy how impatient a holder since 2015 is.

Suspicious-Skill1934

That's tricky because we can hope for an altcoin rally since russel 2000 rallied, but nothing move. Bitcoin didnt sign yet its bear market totally there is still hope if it hold 84k. I think watch out BTC price action, If we recover 100k-105k area and dont reject down from here we can resume the bull and alts will recover and there is hope for you otherwise you are rekt.

Financial_Clue_2534

No. We are hovering around 90k tilting with $2T market cap and people think the end is near. I’ve been in the space around when you got in and today we are at the cusp of massive scale for bitcoin. OGs are old now so it makes sense to sell or rotate to paper BTC to pass down to family. Self custody is difficult for most because they still trust intuitions with every aspect of their lives. A lot of people don’t remember ’08 or it didn’t affect them. It’s hard to break habits unless it’s forced upon you or you take out the time to learn. I don’t know if you’re looking for encouragement to sell or what but you just have to look over everything that’s occurring in the world and where we are heading to understand bitcoin. Tomorrow the state can decide to freeze your bank accounts and control your spending/savings. What are you going to do then?

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Yeah! He should focus on BTC!

Zealousideal_Rain_79

BTC will go down this year and your alts will follow it! Remember this!

Secret_Pomegranate50

Would rather mine strategic metals, fertilizer, or grow wheat, corn ,rice or have a herd of cattle, pigs or chicken. BTC is a mirage.

hawkeye224

Yeah, to be it seems there are 2 main dangerous periods in BTC growth - 1. when it’s just starting out and could lose the network effect, technical issues etc. - we’re past that. And 2. where we are reaching limits of the speculative growth - to grow further BTC would have to challenge gold and turn into a prime asset.

Secret_Pomegranate50

BTC is a neat idea - but still looking for a use case

peak_wako

Had my friend help me look for my ledger last night its got like 40 BTC fml Up till 4 am

T4ylor1

I buy both. For BTC, I utilize a DCA strategy. For gold, I will trade out of my stocks and go into either it (GLD) or volatility, depending on market situations. Both seem pretty important to have in your portfolio

uthillygooth

It’s tough to make predictions. There’s a lot of variables. BTC TAO if the idea of decentralized AI becomes a reality. Canton Network if the financial infrastructure continues to migrate there, but even then how does that benefit retail. Still relatively new release even with a decade of background planning These aren’t necessarily endorsements, but rather i haven’t sold my bags yet. I also try to stay away from defi apps that are just awaiting a “better mousetrap”

devCheckingIn

BTC $100k by end of the month. You've heard it here first. (NFA BTW)

ozera202

Where are all the Mofos that keep saying healthy correction . Crypto / BTC has been struggling since trump Tarrifs and October 10 was the pulling the plug. Ppl are too broke to put money into crypto when gains are minimal and risks are high

Future_Ad863

It’s absolute scarcity is also not found anywhere else. And you better believe a supply shock is coming in the next decade. I don’t know about you but I want to absolutely sure I have some BTC when that happens

Indianianite

With recent events, I feel BTC is more relevant than ever.

Emergency_Scheme_670

Are we really comparing gold and BTC’s growth rate? Gold was $1700 in 2012, bitcoin was $15. Today Gold is $4,900. Bitcoin is $86,210 Bitcoin will hit $500k within the next 10 years, where do you think gold will be?

Bestcon

OP has some good point especially the $100k psychological level. I think BTC barely able to hold at $90k and look at it now dumping.

Emergency_Scheme_670

See you at $500k per BTC, OP

gettin

You obviously know what BTC is. And you wrote a novel. Just make a decision. Jesus.

forestwinds26

BTC is the only coin you should hold long term BTC is the only coin you can safely self custody long term I suggest coldcard as your hardwallet with dice rolled seed phrase If I was going to consider holding another coin long term it would be Monero for privacy If I wanted to risk some money for a bigger return I would buy spx6900 and hold for maybe 3 years but BTC I will hold the rest of my life as it's supply is more limited then gold When they said "just buy BTC" they were right and I would have made more money

Abject_Gift_4333

“They can’t print more Bitcoin. That’s it. That’s enough.” Cool. So the entire killer app is artificial scarcity and vibes. By that logic, my limited-edition Beanie Babies are also money now. They can’t print more of those either. Absolute monetary revolution. Also “it fulfills all the functions of money” is doing Olympic-level stretching here. Medium of exchange? Too slow and too expensive. Unit of account? Nobody prices anything in BTC without converting from USD first. Store of value? It swings 10–20% because Elon sneezed. And “everything can be built on top of it” is just Web3 Mad Libs. You can build things on top of anything. You can build payments on top of pigeons too. Doesn’t make pigeons a good base layer. So we’re back to: It’s a scarce token that people speculate on, and someday maybe other stuff will make it usable. Which is… exactly what I said.

longonbtc

Exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (meaning it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee. [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month. And [Strike](https://strike.me/), [River](https://river.com/), [Swan Bitcoin](https://www.swanbitcoin.com/), and [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) are all good reliable places to buy bitcoin from.

delfin_1980

There are also ways to invest in the Gold run-up without buying physical...GLD, GLDM, GDX, GDXJ. Add some physical and some BTC and you are hedged against falling fiat.

tonio306

Big money realize that quantum safety is more than FUD, and is moving their BTC onto exchanges to start selling. Massacre begins NOW

Blueberry_Dependent

I disagree! If gold with such a enormous market cap can do crazy pumps for months then for BTC it should be child's play to go from here to 200k +. Just saying you know, simple math

Worried-Lab-2010

Just DCA....BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, HYPER, ASTER.

AlbertiApop2029

Not saying there's a connection, but you make a compelling case. [https://www.etf.com/tools/etf-comparison/BTC-vs-SLV](https://www.etf.com/tools/etf-comparison/BTC-vs-SLV)

Blueberry_Dependent

I will call 180,000$ for a BTC this year which considering all the millions of dollars going in to gold will shift in crypto space which will bring the price to the mentioned and probably reasonable for a 4.5 year cycle. I believe that it's more likely BTC going to 180,000$ this year than gold getting to 10,000$. 

postylambz

How can anyone look at BTC price action and claim the 4 year cycle is dead lol

OpticallyMosache

Pivot to 80%+ DCA'ing into BTC. Most people look back on their time in crypto and regret not having more BTC.

Blueberry_Dependent

Have you seen the gold chart??? This thing will collapse very soon from its ATH. No asset is going only parabolic indefinitely, not BTC not gold not anything. After going up for almost a year there will be a point where people will finally decide to sell. Let's not mention that the market cap of gold is huge which means those gains are from a lot of money, a lot more than 100mil in order to move it so rapidly. This indefinitely buying of gold can't continue forever. Also there is already the mental barrier reached (5,000$) which was many people's exit price and expectations. 

Excellent-Kangaroo38

BTC bro... I would swap ETH or Sol for BTC...

The_Bitcoin_Act

BTC's story is strong and enduring (decentralization, fixed supply, institutional adoption via ETFs, etc.), but it lacks the fresh "explosive narrative" juice right now compared to these other sectors. Capital is rotational, when one story cools or consolidates, money chases the next shiny object for excitement and gains. We've seen this cycle before.