BTC

princess_daphie

I'd that kid made his own research and came to the BTC conclusion on their own, kudos to them, they're gonna go far, like they say in the song! If they've been coaxed into it, then I'm not too sure it's such a good thing. Like another commenter mentioned, letting kids be kids is a better way I think.

Hazys

Me too, currently I still a long way to own one BTC.

Plenty_Dog_5684

1 BTC = 100,000,000 sats = 1 BTC

re-xyz

Hard to predict price paths but one thing i think is changing is how ppl behave between cycles, more people seem to park value in stablecoins and earn some yield instead of going fully risk on or fully out. That probably smooths volatility a bit over time, less panic selling, less all in behavior. Doesn’t kill the BTC thesis, just changes how people manage exposure between runs these days

biba8163

XMR has UNLOCK_TIME (transaction) and BTC has OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY (address). I've used both and they work without issues. I've used BTC time locks extensively and with enough confidence that I locked some until 2037.

Tundra14

Doubt. Im here, and it'll take a hack to get me out of crypto. I like BTC, but it isnt the market. Market forces split BTC into two. BTC and BTCH/BCH. True bitcoin had a split, part of the market went one way, another part went another way. If you were there before the split, you could have easily held both. Some sold on both sides, and today's BTC certainly has the bigger market cap. Even without bitcoin, the market has decided to make many various ways of doing what bitcoin does. Many improvements and many more 'improvements'. Ultimately the market isnt controlled by anyone. What lives and what dies is beyond the control of individuals.

northcasewhite

BTC has already mooned. It's alts that killed us.

Mechprince

Do you expect a 25-50% ROI in perpetuity? Or only for a certain number of years? BTC is 2 trillion dollar asset so your expectations are probably too high. Are you still buying or just holding on to what you have? If it’s the latter then it makes sense. But if it’s the former, then Godspeed.

Patrick_Atsushi

I'm actually one of "them" since I now have gold, some tech stocks and BTC. I always sell relatively high spikes and use it to buy relatively low ones atm. To me the gold looks a bit high, tech stocks are so-so, and BTC is a bit low.

Suspicious-Cut3237

First, protect what you were given. Learn basic custody and security before doing anything else. Losing BTC through mistakes hurts far more than missing short-term gains. Second, keep it simple. You do not need to trade or chase anything. Bitcoin works best as a long-term hold, especially when you are thinking about your child and not quick wins. Third, prioritize flexibility over optimization. With debt and a family, avoid putting yourself under pressure. Over time, you can learn about tools like earning yield or borrowing conservatively against BTC, but only once you fully understand the risks. There is no rush.

Mechprince

So just to clarify: is the money you’re putting in BTC disposable income? Or will it financially hurt you if BTC were to go to zero tomorrow? If it’s the former then it’s fine. But if it’s the latter then surely there are other assets that you can get into as well. I personally sold all my BTC @ $100k and put it all on the S&P. I made good gains and am happy with it. I did not want to risk massive volatility when the upside isn’t as high as it used to be.

Key_Mango8016

Every price below $100k is an opportunity, just buy & hold. Ignore the news, ignore the noise, just buy & hold. BTC may very well drop to the 70s, 60s, even 50s. Those will all be opportunities & good deals for people with conviction. I’m buying at all prices in 2026.

atomicdomb

If you only sent the BTC to your layer 1 wallet it should be pretty simple. If you opened a channel then it will be on layer two, if the channel has liquidity you can simply send it out, if not you may have to wait. From what you're saying you haven't set up a node which sounds like its only layer 1 which should just be a simple BTC transaction and cost 1 tx fee.

Infamous-Elk-5086

BTC has been between 85 and 92 for months, yet this newbies still get excited for nothing

Longjumping_Okra1087

Well its not the end. BTC can still dumping.

Distinct_Ranger_8979

I just recieved my "Onyx Miner Pro" in the mail a week or 2 ago. I have recently plugged it in. First off I want to say...The people on here or other sites saying that if you get one thats clear or cloudy "One is a scam" well, I'm here to let you know...that their all clear. There's a cloudy tape on each plastic piece (the 2 pieces that you screw on the miner for the cover) mine did not come with a stand because I only have one. If you buy more then 1 miner, you can buy the stand as well. My miner has extra Factory cords, it comes with a USB and USB-C-Port cord to plug in. It also has other spots to plug in some other cords. I am about to connect it, and I will come back in a week or so and let everyone know if I made any BTC. THIS MINER DOESNT GUARANTEE BTC EVERYDAY....EVERY 10 MIN, YOUR MINER HAS A CHANCE TO CRACK THE BLOCKCHAIN BLOCK. IF SO, YOU HAVE A CHANCE OF WINNING 3.12 BTC. This isnt a regular miner that Just mines all day long. And it doesn't use much of any electricity. If you bought an ONYX MINER and the clear pieces that screw over the miner to help keep it safe....if those plastic pieces are cloudy...PLEASE REMOVE THE THIN STICKER COATING THAT IS ON IT. Then your miner will be clear. Again, There are people out here saying if your miner "Plastic cover pieces" are cloudy, you got a fake miner. And that is NOT the case. Just remove the sticker covers. Idk if i can post pics on here. If I could or if I figure out a way, I definitely will post some pics of this miner.  I am also a Noob when dealing with these things. But I'm not brand new...been dealing with crypto and things for about 1-2yrs....but I am new with this miner. I will let everyone know how it goes. It also comes with 100% money back guarantee and refunds at anytime. 

DarkSatoshiX

It could mean a period of sideways or downward pressure for BTC until either adoption spikes again or macro conditions shift. Some of the AI hype could even crowd out retail FOMO that often drives BTC rallies.

Mechprince

I just have a question for everyone here: why are you still invested in BTC? Is it for wealth preservation? Is it to get filthy rich? If it’s the former, then it’s too risky. There are other safer investments out there that are cheaper than BTC. If it’s the latter, then it’s too late. You won’t be filthy rich off of BTC anymore.

Btcmot

It is SO hard to enjoy the subject with SO much FUD. None comin from me, btc only all the way. Im sure, as the trend changes back to up and to the right, all the FUDers will be the noisy predictors of amazing all time highs to be reached . meanwhile, i just keep stacking weekly with my hodl mindset. Being simple is rewarding in BTC

Legitimate_Cry_5194

Are you trolling or something? Holding BTC and ETH for a 10 time horizon is a super risky move already. It's better to give your money to some poor fellow needing them rather than watching your money disappear buying ALTS.

Kurosaki56843

If the horizon is genuinely 5-10 years, I would frame the problem a bit differently. Beyond BTC and ETH, most individual project risk increases sharply, even when fundamentals look solid today. Tech changes, narratives rotate, and a lot of "strong" projects quietly fade over time. Rather than trying to pick eight future winners, it can make sense to think in buckets: infrastructure that benefits from broader adoption, protocols tied to real economic activity, and a small allocation to higher-risk innovation. In that context, some people include things like L2 infrastructure, interoperability, or even platform tokens tied to actual revenue and long-term users, not hype. For example, Nexo sometimes comes up as a case study of a utility token linked to a functioning crypto financial platform rather than a pure speculative bet. The bigger factor, though, is how you manage the portfolio over time. Rebalancing discipline, staying liquid without being forced to sell, and not overexposing to narratives tend to matter more for long-term outcomes than picking the perfect list today.

Squidsoda

Now just do BTC.

thecryptoguide13

Exactly. The game hasn't just changed; it's evolved into a digital, programmable version. With institutions now treating BTC as a serious treasury asset, do you think we’ll see the Gold/M2 ratio start to lose its historical relevance as Bitcoin absorbs more of that 'inflation hedge' market share?

DarkSatoshiX

The macro story you’re talking about (money printing, M2 expansion, BTC vs gold) = bullish over time → that’s call territory.

Nossa30

When BTC is at $200K, its at this very moment right now when it's the most dead, boring, and uneventful that you wished you had bought more BTC.

JeremyLinForever

It’s so funny crypto bros are crying foul but failing to acknowledge it’s been BTC all along. There is no other 💩 blockchain.

Nossa30

Anyone holding BTC more or less broke even for 2025. Or got BTC at a decent discount. Anyone holding alts, well....why? You all are in the red right now. Deeply at that.

ShittingOutPosts

Didn't the 4 year cycle die when BTC hit a new all time high before the last halving?

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PirateSKB

Tbf I don't think BTC is gonna hit $100k today lol

Quixotus

>Approximately $23.6 billion worth of **Bitcoin** (**BTC**) options will expire Friday, marking the largest BTC options expiry in history. >Open interest data shows heavy concentration of call options between $100,000 and $120,000, signaling traders positioned for upside. $100k-120k. I think they'll make it, guys.

RoosterTail99

Now embrace a lifestyle where anything you do or buy you say “am I willing to use my BTC for that”. Also reframe your view as it being an investment. It’s not an investment that implies you eventually want to sell it for fiat to realize the gain. It’s more like a permanent reallocation off fiat. 1BTC = 1BTC

Medium_Change4574

The drawdown for equities will come sooner or later, the only question is when. And it will end the streak of BTC never going below the previous cycles ATH.

wordlife2010

This really comes down to **time horizon and conviction**, not whether SOL pumps next month. For a buy-and-hold case, the positives are pretty clear: * **Real usage**: people actually transact daily — DeFi, NFTs, memes, games. That matters long term. * **Low fees change behavior**: more experimentation, more volume, more stickiness than high-cost chains. * **Ecosystem maturity**: wallets, tooling, and liquidity are way better than a few years ago. The risks you shouldn’t ignore: * SOL is still volatile and very **BTC-correlated** in drawdowns. * It’s already had a big recovery run, so future gains likely come slower. * Network reliability/decentralization critiques aren’t gone, just improved. In my experience, SOL makes more sense as a **core ecosystem bet**, not a guaranteed outperformer. DCA beats trying to time entries if you actually believe in usage continuing.

mintyfresh21

BTC already pumped, its not touching 120k again for a while, maybe until Strategy drastically reduces its holdings. The banks are not going to let Saylor become the international financial reserve

Longjumping_Range524

Just buying .25 BTC every week

wordlife2010

No one really knows, and anyone saying they do is lying to themselves a bit. Could SOL revisit $100? Sure — if we get a broad market pullback, risk-off sentiment, or some ugly macro/news combo. But it’s not as simple as “it did before so it will again.” The context is very different now. A few things to keep in mind: * **Market structure** is stronger than last cycle — more real users, more apps, more liquidity actually staying on-chain. * **Downside usually follows BTC**, not vibes. If BTC nukes, SOL probably follows; if BTC chops, SOL might just range. * **Psych levels matter**, but they’re not magnets. $100 is a big level, but it’s not inevitable. In my experience, people waiting for exact numbers often miss better entries during boring consolidation. Scaling in beats trying to snipe the bottom.

SydneyPlayer

What’s worked for me long term is a structured DCA + profit recycling approach rather than trying to nail tops and bottoms. I allocate about 30% of my weekly income into crypto, roughly $600/week. Around $400 goes into spot (BTC, ETH, plus some XRP and SOL). I DCA instead of lump-summing. For example, if I’m allocating $100 to Bitcoin that week, I split it across the high and low ranges on the 12h timeframe. Over a 7-day window, most of those orders usually fill, which smooths volatility and improves average entry. When price pushes into a clear daily or weekly resistance, I take partial profits. I typically skim around 20% of the position at profit, keep the rest, and then redeploy that capital back into future DCAs. I’m not trying to exit entirely, just harvesting strength and compounding. Using this method, my spot portfolio is up ~20% over the last three months, without leverage. The remaining ~$200/week goes into leveraged trading, where I’m much more conservative with risk. I only risk 1–3% per trade, scale entries using the 4h–12h timeframe, and focus on high-probability setups rather than constant trading. That account has grown significantly over the past six months, but the key rule is this: every month, I move 50% of leveraged profits back into spot. So the leverage is used to accelerate growth, but spot remains the long-term foundation. No moon shots, no all-in bets. Just consistent DCA, partial profit-taking, and capital rotation. Not financial advice, just what’s been working for me.

biba8163

> eth... longterm Rookie Mistake. ETH appears to be a big outperformer but it's an underperformer long term that only performs after a massive drop (-92% from ~$1400 to ~$80, $4,000 to $1500 last year, etc) **Top 10 from June 2017 ranked by performance (When Crypto became big caps and Flippening narrative) to Today* | Crypto | Price Change | |--------|--------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3500% | | XMR | ⬆️ +851% | | ETH | ⬆️ +724% | XRP | ⬆️ +623% | | LTC | ⬆️ +150% | | ZEC | ⬆️ +15% | | ETC | ⬆️ +51% | | NEM | 🔻 -99% | | DASH |🔻 -75% | | IOTA |🔻 -78%

Old_Shop_2601

He did not acquire his BTC by mining but he instead BOUGHT them with his 1200$. Besides, that's not my point. My point is that I 100% disagree with the previous comment saying kid was not rich, and I show why he was probably from a rich or very comfortable family

AInception

Any potential fork to make BTC quantum-resistant isn't going to be retroactive. Every UTXO will have to migrate to a new QR address type or risk exposing their private key. There isn't enough bandwith to allow that in a reasonable timeframe, so the fees to not be last in line will be prohibitively expensive for most ($1000s). It's not as simple as flipping a switch and the whole network is QR. If you've ever made an outgoing UTXO then in theory your private key is already exposed to everyone on the public ledger. It's an encryption problem. The market will have to decide if they want to persist on a network where centralized nation state hackergroups, whom nobody regular has the privilege of joining, are stealing and accumulating or selling millions of BTC in regular intervals over many years. Plus deal with the narrative and stigma that comes from that. It will make Bitcoin's past controversies and hard-forks look meek in comparison. The best path forward was to address this 5-10 years ago. The solution is as easy as flipping a switch and giving everyone enough time to migrate naturally. This still would ignore Satoshi's 2-4M BTC pile, however if everyone expected that to hit the market someday it wouldn't be quite as shocking. Waiting until the 11th hour and pretending the risk is overblown is niave, and imo spits all over crypto's (old) ethos of being proactive especially about risks of seizure. There really isn't much anyone can do but preemptively consolidate all their UTXO to 1 now (unfortunately eliminating their privacy and putting oneself at higher risk of total loss from a quantum hack) so they aren't hit with $10,000+ fees come the day. If fees rise 1000X and you have 456 unspent UTXO you will be in for a bad time. This has been an ongoing debate for at least a decade but the consensus is to wait until after-the-fact to implement a fix. Effectively extorting users via excessive fees, which is where the bulk of the miners (the only one's who can implement a fork and who matter in these debates) have their incentives at. Putting everyone but the already-prepared most at risk.

AInception

Any potential fork to make BTC quantum-resistant isn't going to be retroactive. Every UTXO will have to migrate to a new QR address type or risk exposing their private key. There isn't enough bandwith to allow that in a reasonable timeframe, so the fees to not be last in line will be prohibitively expensive for most ($1000s). It's not as simple as flipping a switch and the whole network is QR. If you've ever made an outgoing UTXO then in theory your private key is already exposed to everyone on the public ledger. It's an encryption problem. The market will have to decide if they want to persist on a network where centralized nation state hackergroups, whom nobody regular has the privilege of joining, are stealing and accumulating or selling millions of BTC in regular intervals over many years. Plus deal with the narrative and stigma that comes from that. It will make Bitcoin's past controversies and hard-forks look meek in comparison. The best path forward was to address this 5-10 years ago. The solution is as easy as flipping a switch and giving everyone enough time to migrate naturally. This still would ignore Satoshi's 2-4M BTC pile, however if everyone expected that to hit the market someday it wouldn't be quite as shocking. Waiting until the 11th hour and pretending the risk is overblown is niave, and imo spits all over crypto's (old) ethos of being proactive especially about risks of seizure. There really isn't much anyone can do now but preemptively consolidate all their UTXO to 1 now (unfortunately eliminating their privacy and putting oneself at higher risk of total loss from a quantum hack) so they aren't hit with $10,000+ fees come the day. If fees rise 1000X and you have 456 unspent UTXO you will be in for a bad time. This has been an ongoing debate for at least a decade but the consensus is to wait until after-the-fact to implement a fix. Effectively extorting users via excessive fees, which is where the bulk of the miners (the only one's who can implement a fork and who matter in these debates) have their incentives at. Putting everyone but the already-prepared most at risk.

AInception

Any potential fork to make BTC quantum-resistant isn't going to be retroactive. Every UTXO will have to migrate to a new QR address type or risk exposing their private key. There isn't enough bandwith to allow that in a reasonable timeframe, so the fees to not be last in line will be prohibitively expensive for most ($1000s). It's not as simple as flipping a switch and the whole network is QR. If you've ever made an outgoing UTXO then in theory your private key is already exposed to everyone on the public ledger. It's an encryption problem. The market and miners will have to decide if they want to persist on a network where centralized nation state hackergroups, whom nobody regular has the privilege of joining, are stealing and accumulating or selling millions of BTC in regular intervals over many years. Plus deal with the narrative and stigma that comes from that. It will make Bitcoin's past controversies and hard-forks look meek in comparison. The best path forward was to address this 5-10 years ago. The solution is as easy as flipping a switch and giving everyone enough time to migrate naturally. This still would ignore Satoshi's 2-4M BTC pile, however if everyone expected that to hit the market someday it wouldn't be quite as shocking. Waiting until the 11th hour and pretending the risk is overblown is niave, and imo spits all over crypto's (old) ethos of being proactive especially about risks of seizure. There really isn't much anyone can do now but preemtively consolidate all their UTXO to 1 now (unfortunately eliminating their privacy and putting oneself at higher risk of total loss from a quantum hack) so they aren't hit with $10,000+ fees come the day. If fees rise 1000X and you have 456 unspent UTXO you will be in for a bad time. This has been an ongoing debate for at least a decade but the consensus is to wait until after-the-fact to implement a fix. Effectively extorting users via excessive fees, which is where the bulk of the miners (the only one's who can implement a fork and who matter in these debates) have their incentives at. Putting everyone but the already-prepared at risk.

Pristine_Kangaroo527

Y’all are delusional if you think BTC is ever going to become the world’s main currency. It will probably function like gold, where you buy it to store value but for most things, you have to convert to a local currency to buy stuff.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A sudden price drop of Bitcoin to $24,111 occurred on Binance's illiquid BTC/USD1 trading pair on Christmas Day, causing panic. This was not a market-wide crash but a liquidity vacuum due to a Binance promotional campaign offering 20% APY on USD1 deposits, which drained sell-side liquidity. The price quickly corrected within seconds due to arbitrage bots. The event highlights risks in thinly traded pairs and the spread of sensational information, amidst broader market uncertainty and Bitcoin's struggle to gain momentum. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

PsychologicalBit803

Awesome. Great information. I appreciate it. We do our family Christmas late because I’ve got several nieces with new babies. I’m trying to setup something so I can just add BTC on holidays and birthdays type stuff while also giving family the option to add to it. Figure by the time the kid is 18-20 I’ll be the best uncle ever! lol

Critical_Cucumber892

I think BTC is the safer bet for a 10-year timeframe.I buy my stack on BYDFi because they require no KYC. I prefer to keep my identity private if I am holding for that long.

biba8163

> These two areas could be a boom for Ethereum: Stablecoins and Real World Assets (RWA) Bagholder Bingo. The **stablecoin marketcap has gone up 200% and ETH has gone down -40%** in that time frame. | | Nov. 2021 | Oct. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | Stablecoins | $0.11 Trillion | $0.32 Trillion | ETH | $4,800 | $2,900 The **RWA Meme** has been around since 2018. **You will NEVER:** - trade AAPL,NVDA,MSFT,etc shares in your Ethereum address by connecting to MetaMask and going over to Uniswap - be able to go to Robinhood and withdraw AAPL,NVDA,MSFT,etc shares to you Ethereum/Solana address - trade NYSE regulated stocks outside the financial system of brokerages, DTCCs, etc and natively on Ethereum/Solana public blockchains > Blackrock already focusing in that direction. *~2 years ago ETH Bagholders were celebrating Blackrock tokenization** of Money Market Funds for Institutions saying, "Imagine the transactions, this will a rocket for ETH." **There have been a total of ~5,000 transactions with under ~$1K in fees over a ~2 year period.** > *"BlackRock unveils crypto fund first with $5 million minimum"* > And it’s right on ETH. **Can you imagine the number of transactions about to go down?** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bkm1u1/blackrock_unveils_crypto_fund_first_with_5/kvzup2u/ https://etherscan.io/token/0x7712c34205737192402172409a8F7ccef8aA2AEc > Prices move regardless of fundamentals. We are concentrating upon the infrastructure and capabilities of the network. I operate from the belief that, eventually, price will match the value. It's the end of 2025 and **big dummies still don't realize crypto doesn't have fundamentals.** But for a good laugh, lets look at ETH in a common fundamental metric. **Price-to-Sales (P/S), a Fundamental Valuation Metric** QQQ heavily weighted towards tech companies currently has P/S ratio (marketcap/revenue) of approximately 6.16 and is considered overvalued because it's much higher than it's historical average. NVDIA for perspective has a P/S of 23 because it's priced as a hyper growth tech stock whose revenue has gone from ~$10 Billion in 2020 to $130 Billion today and continues to grow. Using that same metric, compare popular cryptos which collect fee revenue and distribute them to their staking token holders and you see that **ETH is comically overvalued by fundamental metrics.** | Network | Daily Fees | Marketcap. | P/S |:-----------:|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | QQQ | -- | --- | 6.16X | TRON | $6.9 Million | $26 Billion | 10.4X | LINK | $164K | $8.9 Billion | 149X | ETH | $330K | $360 Billion | 3,000X ETH is a double speculative asset that historically has a 0.96 correlation coefficient to BTC. *ETH only appreciates when BTC goes on parabolic bullruns.* Otherwise like the rest of crypto, it does nothing relying entirely on BTC for any appreciation of value and then *loses 70% to 90% of its value when BTC goes into a bear market.* - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021 - August 2025. ETH briefly touches past 2021 ATH after BTC breaks $120K

Old_Singer_217

I know you said no memes, but I still keep SHIB in my rotation because the ecosystem is growing. I trade SHIB futures on BYDFi to catch the volatility. I actually use the profits from that to buy more long-term bags like BTC and ETH.

SimpleAromatic2128

The problem with the majority of us was: We heard about BTC very late in our lives when the price was already hit well above $80k. Now, it's a matter of stacking stats instead of 1 full BTC - if we can reach there.

Lanky_Leek6677

Once you go beyond BTC & ETH, the risk isn’t *which* 8 you pick — it’s **being wrong on even half of them over 5–10 years**. Most “strong fundamentals” alts don’t survive full cycles.

WarriorDan09

There are only satoshis on BTC. Other blockchains will be used for tokenizing gold, not btc.

Quantum_Pineapple

BTC is being a pillar no matter what and how institutions attempt to manipulate.

defidiva_here

I try to keep things simple for long-term holds. Besides BTC and ETH, I stick to projects that actually have real usage and active development. A few smaller plays too, but only what I’m ok losing. Curious what everyone else is holding for the next few years.

nopalesyqueso

Looking at the value of BTC with a devaluing dollar isn’t quite the best way you can measure it.

colts_guy

A nothing burger today is actually good and what I am hoping for. Big options expiries are mostly just leverage getting cleared out. If BTC chops and stays boring, it sets up cleaner moves after expiry instead of some sketchy holiday squeeze. Boring now usually means healthier price action later.

Kind_Soup_9753

The flood gates have broken when BTC reaches a million. That’s all we need. Corporations are starting to dip their toes for the first time ever. Countries are doing the same. Once they realize stability compared to a dollar that was designed broken to us peasants there’s no stopping what comes next. And don’t forget we don’t need 2 trillion to double the price of BTC we need diamond hands that don’t let go of it.

some_dude_1234

It is not really feasible for the BTC blockchain in itself to become a widespread day to day payment system. The main challenge is its limited capacity to process transactions on a large scale fast enough. I think the limit currently is around 7-10 transactions per second. That is almost nothing compared to the demand of a global payment system. There are other solutions to this, ie. Layer 2 networks like lightning, but the core BTC blockchain cannot handle this demand. It might still serve as a collateral or store of value etc. Another challenge is the volatility, it might settle a little as institutional actors enter the space, but I think it will still remain too volatile for a day to day payment currency. How do you sette the price of something when the currency shifts +/- 1-2% or more within minutes? The BTC blockchain for sure has its uses, but not as a day to day payment system/currency, imo.

Cantrillion

If Bitcoin were the only place to invest, the economy would grind to a halt. The IPO market is opening and I hope many of those launches outperform BTC. As should we all.

Hazys

Obviously he still keep some BTC. He is the early birds hold BTC. Tactically speaking he already profits a lot even BTC dip he sell some still profit a lot. I read he just use the money he profit do his own business. Well obviously we will sell some for profits like use that money do something else.

Ok_Task_8516

$1m bitcoin? I am just waiting for BTC passing $100,000 again tomorrow !

Hazys

I wonder he still keep some BTC, not sure how much he sold. I feel He surely Still keep some BTC.

Sorgleg

It actually did happen. This came up on X yesterday as well, where someone asked Grok, and the answer was, for that exact trading pair on Binance, the price actually did hit 24.1K. This is because we’re in what is known as “Ghost week”. Big guys are gone this week. The real Market makers are not working until January again, and the junior suits who are in their places, are not allowed to use high liquidity to control the price, even if a semi larger order comes in. So price goes where it wants, without control. When there’s this little liquidity in the market, and no one to control the price, swings like these can happen, if someone maybe only sold a few BTC’s, where it normally would take Billions $ to do that normally, and it would still be caught by Mr. Market Maker 😁but not now. Not this week😁 Until January first, we’re in the Wild West here. Expect a lot of volatility on next to no volume, so be careful out there traders.

arpbsr

Considering all his situations he should sell at the nearest resistance. BTC Could go down 70,60 or even 40s unless trend reverses..imho

Internal_Resort5451

You could also consider using a multi-currency wallet that supports both mainstream coins and memecoins safely. Some people use wallets like Solflare for small speculative holdings while keeping their main BTC/ETH offline.

ChartSage

Holding 1 BTC in 2025 is exactly that movie look where you realize every bad decision you’ve ever made is forgiven as long as you somehow never hit the sell button.

Arch_Lending

Here’s a quick breakdown to answer your questions: 1. LTV varies by lender. Each lender offers different loan-to-value (LTV) ratios. For example, borrowing $4k against $8k of BTC means you’re at a 50% LTV. 2. Not all lenders handle this the same way. Look for a lender that actually protects you and your Bitcoin. A good lender should clearly explain how they help you avoid margin calls, liquidation, or default. 3. Interest rates matter, but security matters more. Rates vary, but don’t just chase the lowest rate. Some lenders offer low rates but rehypothecate your BTC (re-lending or using it to generate yield). Prioritize lenders that provide top-tier security and keep your collateral untouched. 4. We do this. If that’s what you’re looking for, check us out.

EquivalentStock2432

Remind me what the value of BTC is based on

dmitryaus

I think they are done.YTD return MSTR -47.61% vs BTC -5.78%. basically people who invested through a proxy (strategy) lost almost 50%.

CryptoHodlingMoron

Because things like this post can happen in BTC.

fizikxy

The basic advice is that you only invest expendable income and you shouldn‘t invest until you settled debts. After that, buy btc in the bear market and sell in the bull market. Try to DCA in at around the 200w SMA (this has been a good area to buy in for the past 5-10years), sell 75% when everyone and their mom is rushing to buy BTC even when its up 5-10x from your original buy.

uncapchad

it was only for trades BTC/USD1 (WLFI's stablecoin). Apparently very thin order book with little liquidity of that stablecoin . *A large sell order on the BTC/USD1 pair swept through available buy orders, triggering a rapid price drop that created a "wick" on the chart* All other BTC/ pairs were unaffected

Astronaut6735

Who the frack trades BTC/USD1?

Hungry_Hippo_9930

If BTC & ETH are your core I’d keep the rest very selective. For long-term survivability I’d look at infrastructure cash-flow narratives, not next big thing hype. Think along the lines of L1/L2s with real usage and dev activity Oracle data infrastructure One or two DeFi protocols that actually generate fees Even then, I’d keep alts as a minor allocation. Most won’t outperform BTC over 5 10 years, and many won’t survive another full cycle. Longevity narratives.

mjx10

You could start with BTC. If you'll venture to alts, always research and know the risks. Only invest what you can afford to lose.

faita14

My biggest bags besides BTC and Eth currently are; Kaspa, Sui, Avax, link, Sei, Ondo, and Solana.

Russell071966

I agree BTC should be majority of your portfolio

frozennorth0

A 6% in BTC, you don’t say?!

volocom7

That BTC belongs to your baby. It’s not yours. Treat it that way. Your debt is yours. Pay it off in another way

iamjide91

Shows why diversification and understanding the underlying utility of assets is key. Bitcoin is volatile, but DePIN powered projects like $AIOZ offer real world use cases: Web3 streaming, decentralized storage and AI compute, that can provide long term value beyond pure speculation. Come to think of it, that they are a British company doesn't really mean they know what they are doing. However, I still see BTC as long term profitable asset. They'll have to wait to recover what's lost. You don't completely lose until you sell out anyway.

OnairDileas

Btc has no intrinsic value, its a ponzis game and you're not in it. The casino decides when it cashes out. Theres literally nothing that stops btc from actually hitting "0" you can bank that on the GFCs history of stock instances. Wether manipulation or "natural" occurances due to heavily influenced effects of random events. BTC won't be the last bandwagon that people will jump towards, its own scheme. First the spices, then comes the pennies, then Benjamin's. In laymen terms If BTC is the "modern" currency of replacement. There will always be another "BTC". People are dumb and greedy. Put them together and its gambling. You still own nothing, much like numbers on a page, a picture or screen within technology, you're looking at numbers with little to no understanding of what "value" really means.

OnairDileas

Btc has no intrinsic value, its a ponzis game and you're not in it. The casino decides when it cashes out. Theres literally nothing that stops btc from actually hitting "0" you can bank that on the GFCs history of stock instances. Wether manipulation or "natural" occurances due to heavily influenced effects of random events. BTC won't be the last bandwagon that people will jump towards, its own scheme. First the spices, then comes the pennies, then Benjamin's. In laymen terms If BTC is the "modern" currency of replacement. There will always be another "BTC". People are dumb and greedy. Put them together and its gambling. You still own nothing, much like numbers on a page, a picture or screen within technology, you're looking at numbers with little to no understanding of what "value" really means.

antiprosynthesis

Stick to ETH & BTC.

Vegetable-Pepper7772

I’m pretty new too, but I relate to this framing a lot. Once BTC and ETH are the base, I find it hard to think in terms of “picking winners” versus just understanding where something actually sits in the broader market structure. For longer-term stuff, I’ve been trying to look less at narratives and more at how a coin behaves relative to its own history. Does it spend most of its time ranging, or does it actually build higher lows over long periods? I’ve noticed some projects sound great fundamentally but have basically been in distribution for years. I’m still figuring this out, but mapping higher-timeframe ranges and major support zones has helped me stay more grounded. I sometimes sanity-check that kind of structure with tools like ChartScanner.ai just to avoid anchoring to stories instead of price. Curious how others here balance fundamentals with long-term structure without constantly second-guessing themselves.

pablo_in_blood

You don’t have 2801 BTC lol

Vegas_42

BTC and KENDU (first brandcoin with a dedicated community. Token already gone through re-distributiion phase).

LovelyDayHere

Bitcoin Cash is strengthening against BTC. Maybe it's because it sticks to the original goals of the p2p electronic cash system, inheriting its fundamental strengths.

luckychangm

I'm not sure how everyone praises Binance and hails CZ as some godfather of crypto. Binance and CZ are both scammers. The amount of shitcoin listed by Binance is just mind boggling. The rug pull and leveraged token that they can shut down anytime is crazy. I remember when BTC was 12000 I bought their leveraged token and when the prices started going up, they announced that they will close the trading pair and credit the last held balance in USD. Binance is the actual playground for money laundering 😂 I hope this shit exchange bites the dust

Seattleman1955

You don't get it. They aren't "highly" leveraged. The common shareholder is being diluted during most periods. They own a lot of BTC and they have issued a lot of stock to pay for it and they pay a lot in preferred dividends. I could have 1 BTC or a 1,000 but a 1,000 is any better if I have to pay a lot and take on a lot of debt to get it. MSTR mainly buys BTC when BTC is expensive. Why do you think the mNAV is almost 1 at this point? Common shareholders are on to the game and aren't paying a premium. When MSTR started doing this, they could finance at almost zero interest and BTC was at a low. That's why their returns were high. That isn't happened again. Now they finance with diluting shareholders and by pay 10% interest to preferred holders (expensive) and mainly buy when they have a higher mNAV, which is when BTC is at a high. It's not sustainable for many reasons.

Terrible-Pattern8933

True. BTC value prop is censorship resistant payments.

Cryptogirlie

How much is too much? 10 BTC or .10 BTC….. it’s all relative.

TidyOnChain

That would require selling some BTC 😅

Im_le_tired

I’m ok with cheaper BTC.

Mr_WildWolf

lol if you zoom out to one month view this is not even noticeable... unless you are a filthy trader this is a non event movement for BTC

brewmasterlite

Other than BTC and ETH the one that I would feel comfortable with for the long term would be SOL. I would hold and stake

khai0001

BTC hovering around $85k-$90k. What do we think?

RepresentativeAspect

Sell the BTC and put it in the bank. That’s your emergency fund. Go work more and pay off your debt.

Apprehensive_Two1528

He replied this in 2021. Is he square dead inside now in 2025? In October 2011, Nick Allen tweeted: “So glad i didn't buy in on that mess” after the price of Bitcoin (BTC) dropped to around $2.70.  Years later, as Bitcoin prices soared, his original tweet circulated widely on social media platforms like X, Reddit, and Instagram, as an example of a massive missed financial opportunity. When a user in 2021 asked him if he was still alive, he replied with the now-famous quote, "alive but dead inside," succinctly summarizing his regret.  Estimates suggest that if he had invested just $40 at the time of his original tweet, it would have been worth over $1 million when the quote gained traction. 

FilmDazzling4703

It dropped specifically on the BTC/USD1 pairing only on binance due to manipulation. The general market did not drop.

Romanizer

Nothing really. At $1M/BTC, Bitcoin's market cap would still be below gold and therefore still criminally undervalued.