BTC

liquid_at

it's just a copium meme by those who thought they have what it takes to trade crypto, who got caught in the emotional manipulation that is ever so present in this space, who then ran in fear towards the least volatile of the assets proclaiming that the safety within a intrinsically unsafe asset class is what lured them in... BTC is just copium between "not as risky" and "but still possible to get rich" Do you really think you will see BTC at 10m any time soon? If not, why do you think it's a great opportunity to get rich? Because the banks won't dump on you if they need the money? Because the majority owned by the same people that need money when the economy tanks does not destroy its inflation-hedging properties?

Numerous_Wonders81

yet Monero is inflationary forever. Every single minute, new XMR is created and dumped by miners to pay for electricity. Algorand has a hard cap of 10 Billion and uses a tiny fraction of the energy. Monero is facing an existential crisis in the regulated world. Due to the EU’s MiCA framework and the US-led regulatory pivot, Monero was delisted from over 70 major exchanges in the last year. Both BTC and XMR rely on legacy ECDSA signatures. If a quantum computer surfaces, your 'Digital Gold' becomes 'Digital Lead' overnight. By the time you’ve waited for one 'secure' Monero confirmation, Algorand has processed over 40 blocks and thousands of transactions.

doublewyn

I’m all in BTC since the US govt are bitcoiners and they been hodling btc for years. I tell my friends that and they still don’t understand lol

biba8163

> Algorand is already post-quantum secure Algorand is not Scammer Silvio Miicali secure. The scammer gifted himself 20% of the supply and will be dumping to eternity. This is a clear and present danger that materializes itself year after year as Scammer Silvio and the Foundation dumps tokens for free money. 4.5% of BTC spread across 1,000+ Satoshi era wallets are not a threat by quantum computers which haven't been able to progress from factoring the number 15 to the number 21 in 25 years. 25 YEARS ago, **a 7-qubit quantum computer factored the number 15** and it was supposed to be a threat to breaking encryption algorithms > IBM researchers make another advance in quantum computing, demonstrating "Shor's Algorithm," which can break large encryption codes https://www.wired.com/2001/12/big-blue-takes-quantum-step **(2001)** 25 YEARS later, **1,000+ qubit quantum computers still aren't able to factor the number 21** because it's still too demanding for the hardware > Why haven't quantum computers factored 21 yet? https://algassert.com/post/2500 - **21** - The number that quantum computers still cannot factor with 1,000+ qubit hardware - **115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494336** - the range of private keys is between 1 and this number which is more atoms that exist in the known universe that dummies think that quantum computers will be able to guess

misbister14

XEQT + BTCC.B (Bitcoin ETF) in my maxed out TFSA (in Canada) plus actual BTC. My allocation has turned into mostly Bitcoin though due to gains, although I still invest in XEQT as well.

derbyfan1

Yep. Thats what I told my friend when he wanted to go all in on BTC at $0.00000001

inShambles3749

Uhu because all that traffic is totally organic. Just like SOLs. Lmao just go touch some grass and accept that Algo is trash just like pretty much everything else except BTC and XMR. ETH maybe as well

No-Raise7767

okay not sure if i am asking the right questions here..but aren't you able to transfer this BTC to a cold card ( ? ) of some sort..which has no traceability ? In that case, profits realised are only when I realise it through that exchange itself right? if what i said doesn;t make sense, then is investing into BTC only non trackable if done in cash? what is the best way to remain anon with what I do with my BTC if i have to go through an exchange? Can i do it through an exchange that doesn't operate in India? are there places where I can buy 'things' but it gets invested into BTC?

Resident-Quality1513

It _is_ anonymous until you put your id against your wallet or 1 transaction. In the case of you buying BTC on an exchange they will do KYC (know your customer) checks, which are supposed to expose/prevent money laundering. Then the Indian tax authority will see the transaction where you bought and the transaction where you "realized" (i.e. made it real) the gain. They won't care if it was in Rupees or Rials.

Saschb2b

Asking this on a BTC subreddit. Classic

SchoolStunning9526

I'm BTC only and have been doing DCA based on risk for a bit over a year every week using alphasquared and it's performed way better than just DCA. Before that I lump-summed most of my stack. Now depending on how high or low their risk model is, I invest different amounts. Basically just following my notifications as they arrive and zoom out.

Expensive_Special120

Eh, 125k BTC was retail fomo. Stop coping.

flapinux

50/50 Separate Stocks / QQQM, SCHD, BTC

Silly-Philosopher428

25 BTC is worth 25 BTC

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Capital-Writing40

80% BTC. 20% xeqt and VFV

IDontKnowWhyDoILive

In my opinion, it's always better to sell BTC then take a loan. I invest so I can save and afford things in the future. Seems like that future is right now for you. For me, the goal isn't to have couple BTCs at the end of my live, but to have money when I need it.

ICO_Insights

Agreed. Do you plan to fully live off BTC in retirement, or slowly rebalance into other assets when the time comes?

ICO_Insights

I didn’t go 100% into BTC, but I did shift most of my investments toward it over time. I used to focus on index funds and stocks. Now BTC is my main long-term holding, while I keep some traditional investments for stability. I invest regularly and think long term, not for quick gains.

Zzzaxx

At absolutely no significant time frame was this investment losing money, other than potentially servicing interest. Entry at $1,701/BTC puts it pretty much only possible entry at early 2017. Price never stayed at or below that level ever again for any significant time. 5400%Return today Sell a couple coins to kill the loan and they're sitting on at least $17m, but likely more because the home probably appreciated in value and if they refinanced in 2020, they're probably still letting it ride with the house at 3%

Romanizer

Looks like he paid an average of $1.7k/BTC. even the low of the bear market end of 2018 would have almost doubled his investment. He got almost the perfect entry 8 years ago. A good thing for most loans is that they cannot be terminated before they end without a huge cost attached. So chances are he still sits on these coins for 2 years and then cashes out.

edison1991

90% BTC + some short term trades to stack up even more BTC

Away_University9739

Totally agree, the macro fog is thick AF in 2026. Nobody has a crystal ball: sticky inflation debates, Fed path wobbles, geopolitical flare-ups, AI capex vs. recession fears, debt ceilings looming—everything's pulling in different directions. Stocks grind sideways or dip on any risk-off, bonds look ugly, fiat feels shaky. Gold's ripping to \~$4,600+ and silver's exploding past $90 (even touching $91+ recently) because shiny bugs nailed the narrative: true safe-haven + industrial demand + central-bank hoarding + "digital gold" spillover. BTC's stuck \~$95k, range-bound and boring, getting lapped by metals as the "confusion hedge." The bugs are loud and convincing right now because physical scarcity wins when trust in systems cracks. BTC might catch up if liquidity floods or institutions rotate hard, but yeah right now, gold/silver are stealing the show. Stack what resonates, but don't sleep on the metals narrative. It's winning 2026 so far.

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Generationhodl

Want to do this in the future maybe. Right now building wealth with BTC only, but I could see myself buying some SP500 in a few years.

MinimalGravitas

> This is the fate of all proof of stake systems, including ethereum. Meanwhile, back in reality, the number of Ethereum validators is almost at an all-time high: https://dune.com/queries/1933076/3188545 ... And there are about 10x more validators queuing to join the network than are leaving: https://beaconcha.in/validators/queues ... And, just to really kill your silly Bitcoin maxi narrative, here is a list of BTC mining companies that have abandoned bitcoin, sold their ASICs and switched to investing in Ethereum: https://ethereumadoption.com/bitcoin-miner-pivots/

OccasionalXerophile

What's your motive here? To be a knight in shining armor, saving the poor retails from getting rekt? Or rather, are you trying to sow seeds of discontent, malaise, trying to lower prices so you can get the entry you so desperately wish for? Show your cards. Or rather shorts. BTC price matters not what we minnows do, so stop your delusions of importanance.

CoffeeAlternative647

What if we compare BTC/IRR ?

normnormno

Yeah don't buy a new TV if the one you have still shows memes. Just buy BTC.

ResolutionNo7714

Just compare BTC-USD vs BTC-EUR and you see the latter is flatter (pun intended)

Weary_Strawberry2679

To be frank, it has a lot to do with Bitcoin. This is a prime example of why BTC is actually needed.

iLunixqt

My first big investment was in real estate, which had ~10% annual return. For the rest I stick to 10-15% in crypto (my mad money), 5% gold, 5% cash, rest goes into different equity funds (S&P, Swiss stocks, Asia, Emerging markets). Looking at the last 5 years I probably would have been better off putting everything into BTC, but I prefer to sleep well at night!

ILCARNE1991

I have BTC but also alts otherwise only BTC would be boring

Mooks79

It’s both, compare the price of BTC vs other assets and commodities.

DRAGULA85

I was: Index funds 90% Stocks (Tesla, Google, Apple) 5% Cash 5% Now I’m: BTC 95% Cash 5% It kind of stings that index funds has out performed BTC last year lol but long term, I’ve happy catch any lucrative upsides of BTC. And I’ve accepted that maybe I’ll have to stomach a 60% draw down at some point (I personally think I don’t have to but I still don’t sell)

Ok-Amphibian-7369

Same here. Probably more VOO than BTC than most in this sub would prefer. But it’s a risk tolerance I’m comfortable with.

gulliema

Filled up my btc to a good amount, been bullish on silver since last year, once it reaches 100 dollars/ounce I'm selling and putting it into BTC.

ThePhantomPotato

BTC before bread and milk

brandon_cabral

BTC & STRC only. STRC for saving, BTC for store of value/growth. Been thinking about Tesla stock. But have a feeling in 2036 I’ll regret investing in TSLA over BTC.

ErgoMogoFOMO

Yes you could do that. But that's not what the limit order, as a tool, is only about. Limit orders give more control on how your order executes. For example, you might feel strongly that there's sufficient volatility to place an order several % points outside of the spread. This way you get a better price for you buy or sell. Or you might notice that the order books has very little liquidity and expect the orders on the books near the market price to be quickly used up. There's at least a few notable examples, it might have even happened at Kraken, where this occurred and someone was able to buy bitcoin at a 95% discount. This extreme example is very rare and I recall it happening due to a novice trader selling a large amount of BTC on a very small order book. They learned what slippage was the hard way. The lucky trader on the other side turned $10,000 into $200,000 or more. For another example, you might incur more fees if your order executes multiple times until it reaches the full quantity. As such, there are options (I think on Kraken, definitely elsewhere) where the entire order fills or not at all. This might matter to you if trades are say $10 each and your order is only for $100. Would be a shame if that partially executed 5 times and half of it went to fees. There's more ways to use limit orders with some being quite sophisticated but I'll stop there as my experience trading is quite limited.

Emergency-Pass3990

Buddy, Simple strategy, hard execution. **Diversification m**atters. u can’t put everything into BTC and expect low risk. like buffett says, don’t over diversify, but don’t under diversify either., just diversify as much as necessary.

Medium_Change4574

Bulls are asleep, time to be bearish and defend our territory! BTC's about to lose 95k. Don't let these coping bulls who sit in the shadows and vote-bomb every comment get your hope up and buy into these traps!

Blueberry_Dependent

I was also investing in food and shelter but recently I'm thinking of going all in BTC

proXtu

Yeap. Sold TSLA and MSTR and 2 small apartments and put everything in BTC. No more hassle, tenants etc. I still have my flat and another one for which i pay monthly mortgage. I tried sell the second one but found tenants faster so i kept it.

ErgoMogoFOMO

First check to make sure the decimals beyond 5 digits are the same. If they are, then you didn't lose any BTC between deposit and sell. Which means the USD amount associated with your deposit should be disregarded. If they aren't the same then Kraken charged you some amount after your deposit OR you didn't sell all the BTC you deposited.

Unable_Mess_2581

I still refuse to go all in. I believe in BTC but if someday I have problem with it, for whatever reason, I have no 2nd cards.

uncapchad

My home country, one of the top 3 supermarket chains has accepted BTC for 3 years now, nationwide. I love talking to people about this because I am guaranteed to get at least one person responding "don't talk sh, who's going to stand in a queue for 10 minutes waiting for confirmation?". Even the Square/block roll-out across the USA this past year seems to have woooshed past most people. The attitude of many crypto bros is quite ironic, "I haven't seen it so it must not exist". We just have to persistently educate.

Numerous_Wonders81

believes security must have a physical cost (electricity) to prevent "cheap" attacks or network rewrites. argues that because Algorand doesn't require hardware, a malicious actor could theoretically attack the network without losing "real" assets. thinks Bitcoin’s 16-year track record makes its "legacy" architecture untouchable by newer math. In Algorand (PoS), the token secures the network. If the token price crashes, security crashes. In Bitcoin (PoW), the security (Hashrate) is an external resource (electricity/hardware). Even if BTC price drops, the physical hardware still exists. This ignores the Cost of Corruption. To attack Algorand, you must buy 33.4% of all ALGO. As you buy, the price rockets (slippage), making the attack exponentially more expensive. In 2026, it is actually cheaper to rent/buy the hashrate to 51% attack a Bitcoin fork than it is to buy the massive percentage of ALGO stake needed to halt Algorand.

owen_a

Got scammed out of 0.16 BTC back in 2014 or so. That's the equivalent nowadays of £11,300 ($15,200).

StuffCompetitive1440

100%BTC,

Dettol-tasting-menu

Eth/BTC 0.09 lol Well done now at 0.03 Still 0.03 too high.

SmokinOil

I’m not all in but 80% of my check auto buys BTC. That being said I am a bartender, so I consider my hourly checks play money because I make mostly cash and walk with my credit card tips in cash every night. I’m moving away from the stock market because I believe the dollar is about to crash. What I’m about to say will sound bias to a political view but I’m not a cuck to any politician. What I believe is that trump only stands to gain from the dollar losing value because of his crypto company World Liberty Financial. I believe every one here understands that if any major currency tanks BTC yeets. Over all I’ve sold my stocks bought BTC and buy BTC every week, I have a Roth IRA and still max that out every year but not counting on it. The IMF had a 54 page report worried about crypto taking away the power of the way they do business (My take on it you can look it up yourself). I’m buying BTC, precious medals, but still holding a decent amount of money in my bank account. I think every one not holding crypto or precious medals will be left in the dust writhing the next 10years. My opinion but we will see how the next couple years pan out.

itsjasonsantos

BTC only

zenecence

I dont use Kraken, though i think you need the Kraken Pro app to do this. I use coinspot in AU. You just go to the market section, find the trading pair, in this case BTC/USD. Look at the order book and undercut the next seller, or just set the same price and hope that BTC goes up a little bit and your sell order gets executed. It depends how fast you want to sell your BTC.

blade0r

It depends on what you consider “all”. For example, I’m 85%+ BTC.

DoYouEven253

Like is there a better exchange/place to convert BTC to avoid have a discrepancy?

Darkerjev

My allocation is BTC in cold storage. IBIT in 401k through self directed brokerage link/ a bit of VSTSX. Roth IRA and HSA all in MSTR. Normal brokerage account all in MSTR. Most of my networth is my cold storage BTC and IBIT 401k holdings. So im pretty much all in BTC.

Possible-Magazine23

Treasury bond + BTC

kalamansihan

same here, bro. no wife, no children, no career. only BTC

Quokky-Axolotl7388

You bought 0.00237 BTC, and then you sold 0.00237 BTC. Price of BTC changed in between transactions

SingularityXZ

It takes a growth mindset to understand BTC utilities, let alone a unique one to comprehend BTC jokes.

tornavec

I’ve spent the last six months stacking Monero and staking TRX at rates up to 20%. Honestly, I’ve moved on from BTC and ETH completely.

stKKd

What's the wallet address? I want to see how much BTC in sales they got

outoftownMD

BTC but also BTCC in TFSA ( roth equivalent). Max your Roth or TFSA with BTC ETFs.

GripLock11

What's left at the end of the month goes to BTC and VOO 50/50. And I don't even think about it. I see the price every month when I make my purchase, but that's about it.

Bad-practice

Number go up is applicable everywhere. All fiat will fail against BTC

ExtentOld2417

I have not, but I HAVE been allocating more to BTC. Monthly in order of size of investment: 401k/HSA BTC Gold Stocks/ETFs

Quirky-Reveal-1669

I have nothing but BTC.

Delicious-Plankton-6

im still holding on to my stocks but not adding anymore only adding into BTC

Remarkable_Ad5011

I did not see Steak-n-Shake being the tip of the spear of BTC adoption. 😳

TrueCommunication440

Not so much in 2025, comparing BTC vs dollars invested in anything reasonable (S&P 500 for instance). Clearly dollars sitting in a non-interest bearing account will lose purchasing power, but most folks figured out to avoid that situation.

longonbtc

A lightning channel is literally an on-chain bitcoin transaction, specifically a 2-of-2 multisig HTLC smart contract transaction. It is literally bitcoin. You can receive the bitcoin on-chain by closing the channel. Or you receive the bitcoin on-chain by performing a submarine swap. The Lightning Network is an open source protocol and a decentralized network of nodes, just like Bitcoin is an open source protocol and decentralized network of nodes. The Lightning Network is an open source second layer payment protocol built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. The Lightning Network enables Bitcoin users to instantly send and receive bitcoin with routing fees so low that they are negligible. A lightning payment channel is an on-chain bitcoin transaction. Specifically a 2-of-2 multisignature HTLC (hash time locked contract) smart contract transaction. This means that all of the BTC on the Lightning Network are backed by signed HTLC transactions that can be broadcasted to the bitcoin network at any time.

KindCalligrapher

Real Growth = nominal growth - inflation. That's in every econ. 101. If you subtract the % increase from the rate of inflation over the time period you have the real appreciation of Bitcoin. It is not one or the other it's both. Yes, fiat currencies are being devalued every year but also the real value of Bitcoin has increased significantly over any medium/long term period. This is obvious because if you pick any real item that you consume (food,gas,housing, cars,etc.) you can buy more of it with 1 BTC now than in 3,5,10,15 years ago. Will governments continue to devalue their currencies: almost guaranteed. Will the nominal price of BTC continue to increase: not guaranteed but likely. Will the real price of BTC continue to increase: even less likely but what Bitcoiners bet on.

respectandmanners

I think that the point is that, regardless of short term volatility, BTC can buy a lot more goods over time and USD, and associated USDT, USDD, and USDC, keeps buying less and less

jkl2035

Even Michael Saylor just Said that we have to migrate BTC in a quantum threat scenario - he handled it as a Minor issue, I think the migration path will be quite hard. Current discussion (e.g BIP360 by Hunter Beast) involve a multi-year migration including a burn of Satoshis wallet….

lukekennard123

Well yeah a retail investor can put their money into gold or silver which are assets that have been around forever and get huge gains with less risk. BTC now needs to run up too 200k to double your investment.

jkl2035

Not sure if it’s just Hype - I think we have to take this more serious. BIP360 with hourglass approach will take several years to migrate BTC to quantum secure chain. Considering that „only“ 2k logical qbits needed to Crack BTC encryption O think we should start discussing more serious on quantum threat. According to Hunter Beast (author of BIP360) to ghly 4-5 million BTC are vulnerable

mansotired

ah, but i don't believe it's bad advice you have 3 roads in front of you: hodl btc back down to 60k or sell now or if you were truly intelligent: take a short on BTC

jkl2035

It’s depending on the algorithms used for encryption in on the blockchain, there are Blockchains existing which apply algorithms considered to be quantum Secure by NIST, BTC & ETH have to be migrate

Cool-Expression-4727

> If BTC manages to breach $100K again It will be because some institutional investors realized they can milk more retail buyers into a pull later on. Bitcoin and Gamestop are very similar in how the initial retail investor had some power and never realized when that stopped and just get taken for a long dippy ride

kathwren1

Not at all. BTC has been working out just fine.

sjr00

I know no one in this sub has a job, but It worth mentioning. THE K-shaped ECONOMY SUCKS, inflation is a nightmare. If you own NVIDA, AI stocks, or metals you're doing fine/great... buying a house is unrealistic for most, retail doesn't have money to speculate on coins. $100,000 BTC didn't bring retail FOMO, it's not happening at 150 or 200 or even 300. People can barely afford groceries right now, it's not that complicated as to why it has been a mostly Bitcoin only bull. Meme coin rugs didn't help, but retail crypto are used to getting rugged and get over it. Why would 2024-2025 be the time 3

Pisces1975

I’m aiming 2032, but with BTC hanging around 95, seem unlikely

The_Roaring_Fork

And the rest besides BTC and ETH are just zombies waiting to die

Elegant-Salt-7990

I’m pretty heavily invested in BTC, they just think its insane and judge me for it. They think I’m being reckless and foolish.

jk6__

Don’t care, trust the essence of BTC or gtfo

RonPaulWasR1ght

There isn't a "master list" or anyone who holds the hashes. The hashing algorithm is SHA-256, and you can run your own hash of any input you want. The point is, to append a block to the blockchain (and therefore get the block reward of 3.125 BTC at this time), you must show that you've found the nonce (very long number) to add to the end of the block data, such that when hashed by SHA-256, the output of the hash function starts like this: 000000000000ab59.... A number of leading zeroes. Well, that's really hard to find, and there is no seeming correlation between your input data and the output, as SHA-256 can't be worked backwards (not economically). So, many different nonces must be tried before finding one which fits the needle in the haystack criteria. The difficulty simply specifies the number of those leading zeroes. So there's no master list and no one "holds" the hashes. It's all out there for the taking, and it's whoever gets that lucky shot, and finds that nonce. You can increase your luck by taking more shots. More machines, more energy.

alexph14

Am I the only person that’s hoping it will dip so I can DCA? I feel like I don’t have enough BTC yet and it’s already bouncing back up close to 100k :(

devCheckingIn

Fidelity back to unloading BTC. I swear these people are swing traders.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

It's the same thing whenever there's a dip. If BTC manages to breach $100K again, it's gonna be a very different story. Then it's gonna be headlines about "Twitter, social media, retail interest are heading for record highs".

dbd209

You seem to be pretty in touch with MSTR. How would you know that the common stock was diluted to buy more BTC? When MSTR hit 190 and immediately dropped below 180, wasn't that Saylor diluting stock to load up cash to buy more BTC?

WellPayed

Has anyone used cake wallet? Is it the easiest way to swap coins for BTC?

Consistent-Ruin-9488

I think he means that four-year-cycle believers expect we’re going into a 1 year bear market but some believe BTC actually follows macro, the fed, liquidity, etc. and not the 4 year halving cycle. I guess we’ll see!

TrevBTC36

BTC is NEVER digital property, not a currency waiting for a pump.

chagster001

If your goal is to day trade BTC, go for it. Otherwise this is a dumb post

VariatCA

Bears are asleep, time to be bullish and defend our territory! BTC's still above 95k and Crypto is outperforming the stock markets by over 8x the percentage gains so far in 2026. Don't let these sulky bears who sit in the shadows and vote-bomb every comment to drag down sentiment, like they did in yesterday's disaster-zone of a Daily. If you see bullish sentiment, helpful information or even just honest questions, let them know it and support our community!

nassauboy9

If need be borrow agains my BTC.

dormango

BTC is the hardest asset, is I think the point being made.

Minisfortheminigod

End game is to be one of the last owners of BTC when everyone loses theirs as time goes on.

MightyWolf39

Not for me, I send BTC all the time to El Salvador Is just like an etransfer really