BTC

Adorable_Ms_G

Diversifying it is. BTC ETH SOL and some altcoins☺️

Patient_Craft2195

Quantum is the new "Bitcoin uses too much energy" — a real issue blown way out of proportion. By the time quantum can break ECDSA (15-20+ years minimum), Bitcoin will have already migrated to post-quantum signatures. The only coins actually at risk are the ones in addresses with exposed public keys, which is a known and fixable problem. Real question: would you rather hold BTC or fiat through the next decade of AI + monetary chaos?

Express_Mulberry9109

I BTC still equals 1 BTC, but since the real inflation rate is higher than 10%, I think no need to hold 0.5 BTC, only less than 0.5 BTC can you make your life better and if you hold 0.5 BTC you will exceed 90% people in the world.

Electronic_Quote399

Well, the good news is we just recently burned a whole bunch of BTC then. 40-60 good wallets at least. 😉😉💀💀

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BriBumer

Some advices are as expected. I just wonder about the Hype hate… I was expecting to get some shit talk about Rise. Maybe eth (because old and still no BTC flip, which many expected last years) But not hype. 🤣

DiddysAfterparty

Does this confirm people who own BTC are regarded?

SomeSteak3720

Just a single dad doing his best and hitting a rough patch. If anyone wants to help lighten the load, even a small BTC donation would honestly help more than you know. 🙏🏽 bc1q5qm2zfl7kj2d9lj4vzyhjg69qlftfu8kwhvsav

Dull-Assumption-964

Hello, Thank you for sharing your insightful questions regarding Bitcoin's origins and design philosophy. Your reflections touch upon some of the most fundamental aspects of its creation. You raise a critical point about Satoshi Nakamoto's intentions. The prevailing view among experts and the inherent design elements within the Bitcoin protocol strongly suggest an intentional effort to create a decentralized system. Features like the proof-of-work consensus mechanism, the distributed ledger, and the capped supply were engineered precisely to prevent control by a single individual or entity, thereby addressing the very 'situation' you described. This fundamental design choice is widely considered a cornerstone of Bitcoin's resilience and appeal. Your observation about artificial intelligence having a longer history than Bitcoin is accurate. While AI has evolved over many decades, Bitcoin introduced a revolutionary application of existing cryptographic principles to solve the problem of digital scarcity and trust. It is indeed true that the full scope of Satoshi's vision continues to be a subject of deep discussion and interpretation among "BTC experts." The anonymity surrounding Satoshi Nakamoto naturally encourages ongoing analysis of their published works and the system they created. Bitcoin's sustained relevance and significant market value over more than a decade certainly attest to the profound impact of its core design. Thank you again for prompting this thoughtful discussion. Your engagement with these foundational concepts is highly valuable.

MakeItMine2024

Mining for 3.5 years versus just buying BTC. It was highly profitable BUT like most miners spent a lot of time learning costly learning lessons still about 60k in the hole https://preview.redd.it/gsupde6p5f3h1.jpeg?width=1112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66a7849bc41e153eff12812388d850959892285b

Stephamation

"I got hacked and my funds were sent" how do you spend that BTC with that alibi? In the hypothetical that the tax man comes knocking, demanding answers, how do you explain that this money that was hacked from you, somehow managed to buy you something? Maybe I dont understand your reply?

sethjr10

Advising to buy chunks of BTC before pandemic covid era, but I didn’t buy anything for myself

Bluejumprabbit

Yeah, because liquidity is fragmented now too. ETF BTC, ETH beta, Solana memes, stable yield, and AI all have different buyer bases, so one trade is not dragging the whole market the way it used to. That usually means shorter narrative life

Suitable_Acadia_190

The manufactured FUD observation at the top is the most underrated point in this whole post and you moved past it too quickly. Coordinated negative sentiment doesn't appear randomly. It tends to cluster at specific structural moments — after a significant drawdown when retail is already scared, before a move that institutions want to execute without competition, or when a major position needs to be distributed into remaining buyer liquidity. The timing of FUD cycles in crypto has historically correlated with accumulation activity far more than with genuine fundamental deterioration. That doesn't make every bear case wrong. It means the loudness of a narrative is a terrible proxy for its accuracy. The 401k data point is the one I'd highlight above everything else on the institutional adoption list. Less than 1% of plans offering crypto exposure despite legal ETF access means the actual institutional wave hasn't happened yet. What's happened so far is the infrastructure being built to allow it. The capital itself is still sitting behind fiduciary inertia that will dissolve the same way every new asset class eventually gets normalized — gradually, then suddenly. The advisors at Morgan Stanley and BlackRock recommending Bitcoin to clients in 2025 would have been career-ending moves in 2019. The Ethereum stagnation point is legitimate though and worth sitting with honestly. ETH underperforming its prior cycle peak relative to BTC while carrying significantly more narrative weight is a real structural question, not just FUD. The answer probably lives in the L2 fragmentation of fee revenue, but that's a longer conversation. The Germany Bitcoin sale at $62k is going to be studied in finance courses for a long time.

Bluejumprabbit

They pay in Babylon because that is the asset the program is using to bootstrap demand and pay for the security side, not because Kraken wants to make it weird. If they auto sold it into BTC for every user, somebody still eats the spread, slippage, and tax mess. Native reward token is cleaner for them but then again worse UX for you.

Fearless_Pressure454

I think it really depends on how Bitcoin adoption looks by 2035. 0.5 BTC sounds like a lot today, but nobody really knows what life changing will mean in the future. Curious to see what others think the ideal amount is.

DrSpeckles

Theres a difference between your claim that AI is massively overpriced, and say BTC. One of them is changing our lives in meaningful ways, and has only just started. It is not overpriced. The other doesnt do anything at all, its just something you hang onto if you are brave, hoping to sell to someone else one day for more. Its the very definition of overpriced.

Rosenant

I came so very close to setting up my spare laptop to mine BTC but I would only have gotten 3 or 4 a week and it wasn’t even worth 25 cents.

villainstyle

I sold 3 BTC in November of 2015 for around $600. Shame

sigh_duck

I think its not unrealistic across say 20 years. But a 1M BTC by say 2036 sounds preposterous in my view. I would be happy with a 20%-30% ARR which obviously does leave me a little disappointed given how "risk on" this investment was to make.

Fit_Seaworthiness_37

These sentences mean: 1. Crypto like BTC is revolutionary technology that solved problems. 2. Crypto has institutional investors 3. People think they can get 1000x bangers by buying Crypto today like it was the early Crypto days. You ain't getting 1000x baggers today. It is more of a hedge against inflation investment style.

rs1971

The Trezor's fine, though if I were you, I'd buy a Blockstream Jade. It checks all the boxes (completely open source, BTC only, etc) and is a bit cheaper.

cormacpara

Gambling away or giving friends to gamble BTC on margin. I’d have a bigger stack

RosieDear

Crypto isn't an industry. It's a bunch of schemes. The fact that you have to go begging to politicians and to the same banks and institutions that crypto was going to sideline is quite ironic. It's would take anyone studying the cryto scene - from a human perspective - about 15 minutes to figure out that it is about free money and "number go up". When things happen in the real world - or don't - it means something. No, 10,000 words on the subject does not mean a thing. It's about young males, many of whom have checkered pasts or who are looking for Easy Street, trying to get rich without working. I don't want to list them all out here - but you might think after the failure of 18,000 "currencies", the demise of the KINGS like SBF and many others, the old folks and families taken for 10's of Billions of dollars, the Pols and POTUS of the USA taking bribes, the lack of everyday uses (although if buying heroin mail-order BTC works) - virtually a 100% plus failure rate.... And yet some are saying "No, it's real and there is all this good stuff happening"... You see - even IF all this crazy stuff happened and "number go up to moon" - then it is very likely it would help create a global or regional disaster....and yet, the vast majority of the "people on the moon" would care less. What I am saying is that if we took 10,000 crypto bros and "speculators" and asked "If you could make 100X the money on your crypto but the result was that that 1,000 others lost an amount which totally vastly more than you made" - the vast majority would say "they should have done their own research". Sorry, but this is very simple. There is no need. There is no real use case - no one anywhere (well, except a torturing dictator who locked up a large % of his population) has any use for it. This is not FUD. I have a little BTC. I even made bank on it up to day...only bought it due to Trump starting to dismantle civilization back in the 2018 time period....but that doesn't mean my 40+ years of investing and business experiences don't inform me what it is. That folks would put stock in "money" that they have zero idea about....who started it, why they did, or what could be done (most have zero idea) from the inside.....makes it perfectly clear what it is. Why not just admit it? I'll make it easy! "I don't want to work. I want my money for nothing and my chicks for free". This is nothing "modern". That folks put stock in "important people" (usually paid, but also easily fooled and selfish" saying great things about crypto is yet another infantile view. I didn't make it crash. I didn't make it be used for paying folks off and criminal activities and ransoms and pumping and dumping. But that is human nature - and if anyone here is cheering for those types of breakdowns of decent human nature so that they can profit, I promise that the costs will be higher than the profits. You can wave your cold wallet powered by batteries and solar panels above your head while viewing what's left after the bombs fall.....and I don't think you will feel good about it, even if U R a simple "bro", bro!

andy2002_

Maybe, but that’s kind of my point. For a lot of regular people, even owning a small fraction of BTC already feels out of reach now.

Get_the_nak

Does anyone have a link to an updated BTC spiral?

DrSpeckles

Don’t agree with the comparison to ai is not founded. It always required huge infrastructure to operate. There was never a hobby stage that Bitcoin had. I was experimenting with AI many years ago (long before LLMs but it always required serious compute power somewhere. Other thing that distinguishes it is AI is genuinely useful, and will become part of every minute of every day. BTC these days is a) a speculative asset b) still a hobby for some people.

Mundane-Context-3979

The market topped on apathy not euphoria, in the parlance of Cryptoverse. Basically quantitative tightening was still in effect, with high interest rates. Historically, without QE alts don't get an alt season. I expect we'll see a huge alt run after BTC finds a new ATH when the bull market lines up with QE.

MediumLibrarian7100

You’re wrong about 5-10 years ago. Like factually wrong. Thousands of coins pumped 10-100x+ as retail liquidity rotated freely across the cap table on exchanges. That upside probability no longer exists. Post 2024 ETF inflows and institutional custody have concentrated capital in BTC/ETH wrappers and major custodians and that’s now preventing the same free flowing cascades. Most coins now stay flat or die. Oh, and up until 21 there has only ever been around 20k tokens minted. So the majority of tokens actually PRINTED for us. Maybe you just wasn’t there?

GiraffeKnuckle

Spending over 100 BTC on Silk🥴 I look through my old wallet time to time make sure I didn't leave any crumbs (there isn't)

MediumLibrarian7100

Ily bro but stables and tokenised equities growing doesn’t refute anything that’s exactly the point. They’re institutional infrastructure money flowing through USDT/USDC treasuries and Ondo/BlackRock products. That all stays concentrated in majors and compliant yield layers. It expands the captured liquidity pipes without breaking out into the old retail driven cascade down the cap table 🤷‍♂️ That’s why we get elevated BTC dominance and no real alt season anymore…

WastelandOfConfusion

I don’t think you realise how massively overpriced BTC is. It’s because people are used to high prices at this point. Ripe for the picking one might say.

justinknowswhat

I bought a vape with BTC in 2012 and… yeah.

Lacklusterlandon

But why would BTC go up again? Literally no revenue, all risk, no longer new and shiny, more fake than fiat

defiCosmos

Becuase your BTC is staked (bonded) on Babylon. BTC its self does not earn yield. Its earning yield through Babylon, so your getting Babylon staking rewards.

figurative-trash

It was revealed to me in a dream that BTC will to 2 million by the end of the year. Mark my words.

partymsl

That Pizza story is truly beautiful. Because it shows how BTC was genuinelly used a currency and not an asset by both sides.

EdLesliesBarber

I’m not sure I have regrets really but I completely exited the market a few year ago after taking profits over the years. My BTC average costs were less than 300, ETH single digits and LTC cents. At the time I bought my a house, set up a retirement account for her and dumped the rest into the market. It’s grown healthily since and we have more than a comfortable nest egg. I don’t really follow or check prices any more but every now and then I do the math and feel a little funny.

CyberCrud

Alts are dead.  But the BTC cycle lives on as it always has.  

Equal_Dragonfruit_39

Exactly yeah. They do have a competitive edge in that users can trade native BTC and not need wrapped assets. Additionally, because of using lightning and lithium it is competitive to CEX speeds. This differentiation could bring volume rather than being the same as all the other dexes

Charming-Designer944

Depends on what is life changing for you. My estimate is that 0.5BTC it will be worth maybe 380k USD in today's USD value by 2035 (5x increase in BTC purchasing power, a bit more in USD value). So the question you need to ask is 380K USD life changing for you today? If your answer is yes then yes.

piggleii

But two posts down someone said BTC “decides to run up”.

bitchewy

You need to lower your cost basis now by getting more BTC now while its on sale.

XXII78

[Well shit, the clanker was right!](https://www.tradingview.com/x/k8JohM7D/) I sincerely thought the March 10 one was the only one. Weekend of July 24-27, 2020 made a _very_ small gap that hasn't been filled. Idk if I have it in me to call for $9800 BTC, though.

XXII78

[Well shit, the clanker was right!](https://www.tradingview.com/x/k8JohM7D/) I sincerely thought the March 10 one was the only one. Weekend of July 24-27, 2020 made a _very_ small gap that hasn't been filled. Idk if I have it in me to call for $9800 BTC, though.

MediumLibrarian7100

Yes and the market isn’t reflexive anymore so the conditions we needed for the post halving BTC pump to cascade into an alt season are no longer there…

FromThePits

Maybe so... but not much fun having <100 sats, if every transaction cost you 1000 sats, even when moving them to second layer solutions. One satoshi might well be +$100.. but if it costs $1000 to transfer, then it might as well be worthless. I predict that bitcoin will become institutionalized in this century, and everyone else will have to share the meager leftovers, if its even feasible to do that. The big BTC wallets will be fine though.

Ced-Invest

The BTC outperforming alts until a new dominance high is the part I'd agree with on flow logic. The "bear market bottom early October" call is where it gets harder. Five months out, specific month, that's a level of timing precision that usually doesn't survive contact with the tape. Macro context is the swing factor. If yields keep printing 52w highs into Q3 you can get a deeper drawdown earlier. If the Fed leans dovish on one print, the bottom is already in. Curious what the framework anchors that October call to. Cycle math from the 2022 low plus halving offset, or something more structural?

RandomPlayerCSGO

Not going just into BTC and Monero when I started instead of fucking with alts and yield farming with defi.

AggroJordan

Scrolling through... 1500 BTC transferred to PayPal... WTF! 😅

Freeman935

I would already jerk off to 0.069 BTC, but that's just me I guess...

nassimmontreal

You download the Kawah app, and just add your BTC holdings :)

_IscoATX

Use it to invest in other cash generating assets that pay down the loan. If you take a BTC loan to spend on random trash you’re gonna have a bad time

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Every time traditional markets have a big rally and there's a "negotiations going well", BTC just barely climbs, and then dips back.

Blackiris-Code

Don't reply to DMs talking about crypto in general, no matter the platform. Keep the tokens for now. If your uncle made sensible decisions the value of his tokens is likely to go up. Most okayish networks should gain a bit of value next time there is a bull run on BTC. I believe this correlation is mainly due to how institutional investors manage their crypto portfolio.

almo2001

Made money trading vanillacoin which at some point became VCash (not the other vcash). Its zero time transactions seemed like good tech. I was accumulating to run a voting node for extra coins. One day the price dropped hard and I made the mistake of buying 2.5 BTC of it before finding out why it had dropped. The lone dev went nuts and fucked up the network with a known messaging bug. Poloniex froze it, and a year later they delisted it. Overall I still made a solid profit trading that stuff even with the blunder.

blaziken8x

You think it will go down and I agree. BTC always pulls alts down with it whenever it has any significant drop. Also, I used to hold siacoin for quite a few years, hoping it will go up. Comparing alltime charts, they pretty much have the same chart, pumps hard first cycle, quite a bit less second cycle and fizzles out third cycle. I'm just telling you to go with your gut instinct, don't look for people trying to change your mind.

FigmaWallSt

The millionaire could afford almost 13 BTC while the "bitcoiner" has 0.08 BTC he jerks off to and thinks he is set for life 😂

Factualx

Appreciate it. I do think most of those factors are real but may miss the actual root - which is that none of those things largely matter if there is true value being created, which with crypto - there largely is not. Essentially any system, product, service, etc. Will easily survive and keep growing even with those factors being true - if there is value generation. The reality with crypto is that all of the delusions of what it would do for the world are largely false or at least seemingly very overblown. Hence my point about it being entirely possible that BTC is simply a \~1.5-2T fairy valued asset, and there is actually nothing more to it than that.

Rory_1354

It'll all get obliterated on the next BTC dump

anotherbrckinTH3Wall

Nonsense 1 BTC or 100million Satoshis

MediumLibrarian7100

I don’t see demand for BTC decreasing any time soon tbh bro. I have massively overstated here the “dead” part because I am not stupid there will 1000% be opportunity in the space going forward. BUT I want people to know what this is. It’s not what it was even just 3 or 4 years ago!

Actual-Yesterday4962

BTC is purely hype, so become a btc hypeman if you want to be rich

Shazvox

Megabyte = 8 000 000 BTC

LuckyWinds

> You are 1 in a million, lol. No, I'm not. Many people have done exactly what I have done - buy bitcoin and hold it for a long time. It's very easy and simple to do. > Most people who bought the BTC ETFs When the ETFs launched the price of bitcoin was in the 40s, we are in the 70s now. > The odds are against you when you buy Bitcoin. Sounds like you made some bad financial decisions and are projecting. Why are you even here in this subreddit? Trying to get some closure on your bad investment strategy?

AriesThef0x

Honestly I think .5 BTC being comparable to a 1500 sqft home at the national average in 10 years isn’t too far off.

A_lonely_impulse

Not selling my BITX when BTC crashed.

Western-Source710

Looks like OP got deleted account? You're not OP are you? All I know is, if I had an average at $120k.. I'd be DCA'ing and averaging down hard right now at these prices. I'm still holding, too. No plans to sell. I refuse to invest into the overly tech heavy overvalued, speculated, SP500 that is also getting pumped by retirement plans. SP500 at ATHs -- BTC at like a 40% or so discount from it's ATHs.. and if the SP500 is being inflated by what I mentioned above (mainly the speculation, but retirement accounts, too), then why not just go ahead and invest into the "most speculative asset of all time, Bitcoin"? especially while it's at such great discount? Not being rude to you by the way, great job holding and keep that up! Just expressing some thoughts on why it seems like a better idea to be buying BTC at the moment, \*IMO\*.

Yoloballsdeep

You are 1 in a million, lol. Most people who bought the BTC ETFs are in the red and Michael Saylor is in the red. Just because a single Reddit unicorn is in the green doesn't make investing in a worthless string of numbers a better idea than investing in the best 500 companies in America. The odds are against you when you buy Bitcoin. 30% down YTD 🤢🤮

HumanNo109850364048

BTC, your own keys, just hold

LiquidityCompass

Infrastructure is what changes adoption. Direct access to Fed payment rails won't send BTC up tomorrow, but it could make it much easier for institutional money to enter the ecosystem over time. That's a much bigger long-term story than most daily crypto headlines.

Medium_Change4574

All I want is BTC.D to absolutely NUKE

Yoloballsdeep

Strategy currently holds about 843,738 BTC and its average Bitcoin purchase price is roughly $75,700 per BTC based on the company’s latest disclosed purchases in May 2026. https://www.investopedia.com/michael-saylor-said-strategy-could-probably-sell-some-bitcoin-for-now-it-s-buying-11977623?utm_source=chatgpt.com He is barely making any profit

WastelandOfConfusion

Selling 3.5 BTC at $20k.

FromThePits

Im not doubting the succes of bitcoin. I believe that if we manage to deal with the quantum challenge, BTC will become increasingly valuable and scarce forever. I just don't believe that common people will benefit much. We, the first movers will and our children too. But unless we make a plan for our future generations, they will not experience the same upside. They will have to work hard for a few extra satoshis, while wondering why their grandparents was swimming in thousands, millions or even billions of satoshis.. ..and saved absolutely none for them.

East-Cricket6421

Crypto overall lost its potential market cap when BTC was hijacked during the block size debate.  That said it's still the most volatile market available. Meaning if you can navigate said volatility you can still make good money.  However unless BTC suddenly allows for near free txs again sometime soon, allowing people to use it as actual money. Then chances are the market will have moderate growth with blue chips and the occasional upstart at best. It's normal for markets to consolidate as they mature though.

jasperCrow

I don’t even know why you are implying Epstein has any relevance to the inherent value of BTC.

Indianianite

Yeah just hold BTC

xrphabibi

You’re assuming everyone bought BTC. You 100% can be in crypto for 6 years and lose all your money. In my portfolio, two coins that at one point were highly respected and had major partnerships ended up rug pulling and/or being hacked and price collapsed. I know people in those communities that were all in on those coins for many years. There are many people that have only bought alts or even went all in one an alt that ended up collapsing.

jasperCrow

BTC was a chain for 5 years before Epstein ever got involved. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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jasperCrow

Everyone who survives crypto long enough eventually becomes a BTC maxi.

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Haydros

20 BTC is a life changing, go for it

PookysTomb

You mathematically cannot be “in crypto for more than 6 years” and lose money, unless they kept getting cold feet and leaving when prices were down and buying when prices were up. If they just bought BTC 6 years ago and held, they would be up something like 9x - 10x.

Disastrous-Engineer2

You cannot diversify in crypto lol. Everything moves with BTC. There are occasional exceptions but long term everything moves with Btc.

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Awkward_Potential_

That's inaccurate. Strategy's average price is 66k and BTC is at 77k. MSTR is 10x where it was last bear market.

SpontaneousDream

Lol INJ is near all time lows against BTC and USD

Yoloballsdeep

Michael Saylor, the biggest BTC bull, has been DCAing into bitcoin for the past 5 years. He is under water on his BTC and would have done better if he bought treasuries.

Admirable_Edge_1956

Man, that ETH/BTC 4h slide is brutal to watch. To stop myself from panic-checking TradingView every 10 minutes and ruined my day, I coded a simple script that acts as a Telegram bot. It monitors key oversold RSI levels and Bollinger Bands anomalies across multiple timeframes and pings my phone when a potential reversal or bounce is actually forming. Takes the emotion out of it. If you or anyone here is tired of chart fatigue and wants to test it, let me know. Happy to share the link for feedback

Think-Sector-6329

been monitoring SOL thru blueblocx, and there's real activity begind it. I wouldn't assume $83 is a guaranteed floor. If BTC keeps dragging the market down, SOL can definitely go lower too. Long term, just watch flows and wallet activity before adding more

liftcookrepeat

I'm leaning range for now. Falling OI with stable price feels more like leverage getting flushed than fresh conviction coming in. I'd want to see stronger stablecoin inflows and ETH/BTC improve before calling it real expansion. Right now it still feels fragile underneath.

Leonardns

I had bought BTC and TAO I préfère focus on only few coin.

LiquidityCompass

Hardest part for me? Ignorance gave me confidence. I thought I knew a lot and that trading alts against BTC was easy money. The market proved me wrong. Twice.

FigmaWallSt

Stupid question. BTC could be @1M in 2034 and drop to 100k again in 2035. No one knows where BTC will be in almost 10 years just like no one knew BTC will be above 100k once. A lot of people hoped it will be extremely valuable in the future, but no one knew for sure especially before the mass adaptation and ETF inflows. BTC won’t grow as much per year like the previous years. You can already see it and even from peak of the bull run to the peak of the latest bull run the growth shrinks

bootmeng

I'm all about Bitcoin backed lending but I haven't quite figured out the strategy yet. Rates like 11.49% for loans less than $250k doesn't seem so competitive. I can get a better offer at Sofi and they don't hold my BTC.

NeutralSpacerx

[](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s31qag/for_people_using_self_custody_how_do_you_actually/)to skip the exchange step, no-signup swaps convert between coins from your own wallet, but for actually spending, gift cards and BTC-accepting merchants are the self-custody-friendly route. depends if you mean spending or cashing out.

tenor_tymir

You should really get to 1 BTC.