BTC

DD4LIFE8

I use a combo of Coinbase and KCEX. Coinbase to deposit or withdraw the money to my bank account and for Coinbase to track taxes. I buy USDC on CB which is free, transfer it to KCEX which is free, sell it for USDT on KCEX for free. Buy what I want on KCEX for free (spot) and KCEX has free transfer fees as well. I do the reverse when I want to sell which is also all free. So send your BTC to KCEX. Sell it for USDT, buy USDC and send it to Coinbase. Sell the USDC and withdraw it to your bank account. It’s all free besides whatever fees you may be charged to transfer the BTC from your wallet.

sheeeeeeeeei

Seems like a trick question but if you zoom out far enough you start to get scared that dark money and dark enterprises can do whatever they want to BTC and you start petting your precious little FIAT hoping it does a Yorkie backflip so you can give it a treat

Cold_Respond_7656

The cockiness of these posts when you know damn well how volatile BTC is, is just asking for it

richardto4321

No, you certainly cannot tell how many people own how many coins based on addresses. ETFs make it even harder because they don't trade 24/7 and the actual on-chain BTC doesn't get moved immediately, so those adresses are always lagging behind. I'm saying the fact that one person could own multiple addresses makes it more likely that less people actually own 1 Bitcoin compared to what the number of addresses show. That's also not taking into account lost keys. The only thing we could say for certain is there can't be more people with 1 Bitcoin than the total number of coins mined minus "lost" coins.

JGdc12

Reddit user SANcapITY makes a bold prediction, says BTC will reach 16.7 million per coin at a point in the future yet to specified by means to be determined

sheeeeeeeeei

Goat has a stronger ROI than BTC. Goatcoin incoming? Is that the proper sentiment? Lol ;)

No_Fuel4693

You're right, but it doesn't work in practise like that until the price remains largely stable compared to other currencies - which it never will IMO. Think of it like this. I'm a US seller of goods. My customer is in AUS. The transaction is for $100USD. How much is that in BTC? Well it depends on timing right? So I can say, 'send me $100USD in BTC', but the customer then needs to find an exchange rate for that from one of many exchanges, get a BTC value, then buy that BTC in local currency $AUD, then transfer it. There are a lot of variables in the time that that happens. Prices in both currencies fluctuate and I as the seller, have to rely on my customers interpretation of what $100USD of BTC actually is. Sure we would have saved transaction and exchange fees etc but its still not a clean exchange. It works but it's not perfect. I think this is where stable coins have value. Customer can quickly buy and send $100USDC for minimal fees and when I'm ready I can exchange that out for fiat or BTC as needed. They wear the exchange rate on their end ($Aud > USDC) and i wear it on the other end (USDC to BTC/USD).

MacMuthafukinDre

Let’s just stop posting positive vibes. It seems BTC is doing best when sentiment is bad and shorts load up. Once these type of posts come up, it drops.

Eastern_Primary_4446

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terp_studios

Yeah but only temporarily. Why does no one realize that if his coins move, ***there still are only 21million BTC and nothing has changed.***

Illustrious-Option-9

The thing is that for BTC to go down you don't need any trigger. It's enough to not happen anything and BTC will slowly bleed to sub $50k and more.  Whenever a positive news is published, like today, BTC will make some waves enthusiastically, before returning to its inevitable long-term continuous decline.

DankShibe

Bear market is over unless black swan . Bottom was July 2026 and reversal was in August . But no bull market until 2028 . Sideways bullish from now on until the halving I suppose . Alts have higher chance to run than BTC right now because no altseason has happened in the last cycle.

SpanglerBQ

Indeed, anything could happen. However, when BTC seems nearly immune to any amount of bad news (Coldcard hack, rate hike, Clarity fail), that's a very bullish sign to me.

Used-Height-2670

Trump will announce he is Satoshi and all BTC belongs to him and no one else

sheeeeeeeeei

Honestly, respect. Did you buy in at 2015 or 2012? Jk lol. I’m slightly jealous of those who bought in at 2015. That’s when I got my first job. And i definitely considered buying BTC. Life just didn’t work out financially perfect because of regular life stress. There are still ways to make money and grow your BTC stash. I’m a sucker for a good attractive USD balance, but I know BTC is slightly more valuable at any given moment.

sheeeeeeeeei

Dawg. If you work at a currency exchange and are a BTC enthusiast, you are in prime real estate for a “change” to see how things work. You could strap a go pro to your head and make a huge documentary

sheeeeeeeeei

It’s not that far off. Remember this, humans value familiarity. We like round numbers. As long as BTC doesn’t give round numbers consistently, none of the “plebs” will buy in. We have so much time. The race is against the institutions, probably. Even then, there will be infighting inside institutions.

sheeeeeeeeei

Lovely comment… I’d ask a question but we are all against the corrupt inflationary system so it’s all the same. I’ve been a BTC enthusiast since 2012 never purchased a single sat until recently as a joke and I could have used my early knowledge as leverage with the little capital I had. Now I’m working 20x harder or more just to know I’ll never be comfortable. BTC frees those who buy in, not those who procrastinate. I can attest this. I’m not even bitter about it. I’m actually kinda happy with my pattern recognition. I read the whole white papers in 2012 and I was like “nah I’ll have at least 7 more years to get it at $30-100.” Yeah fucking right. Worst mistake of my life but I have barely enough to live for to not really worry about it at all.

birdpooponu2

BTC always does the opposite of expected to fool the fools.

Neither_Advisor_7836

BTC flipping the bird at the corrupt bank owned idiots in our American government. BTC no one controls

na3than

It doesn't make that so, nor does it make it not so. There's not enough information to make a conclusion. According to [Bitcoin Rich List](https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html) there are, right now, 972,130 addresses holding 1 or more BTC. That doesn't mean there are at least 972,130 PEOPLE holding 1 or more BTC, because obviously a person can control more than one of those 1BTC addresses. 972,130 is the maximum number of people *who hold 1 or more BTC in one address*. But there are also more than 1,396,086 Bitcoin in addresses holding *less than* 1 BTC, so it's possible that nearly 1.4 million people hold 1 BTC each, spread across multiple UTXOs. 1,396,086 is the maximum number of people who hold up to 1 BTC *spread across multiple addresses*. All we can say definitively is that the number of persons who hold at least 1 Bitcoin is greater than 1* and less than 2,368,216. \* Yes, greater than 1, not greater than 0. I know I have 1 and I know that I don't have the rest, so the true number is definitely greater than 1.

Bright-Ad-4072

Normally when rates go up in a major economy it means investors can obtain a higher risk free rate of return and therefore not invest in alternative assets such at BTC for a higher return. However, a lot of major economies are levereged to the hilt these days meaning that rate hikes are actually increasing their servicing cost of their massive debts. So in effect, interest rate increases are basically making investors question the creditworthiness of countries themselves!!. A recent example of this is the UK where the concern lay in issuing new debt of 20 and 30 year maturity with current interest rates. The relevant bodies stopped issuing the longer term debt due to concerns about servicing the debt in future years

Narf234

I hope the price goes up or down so I can buy more BTC. I feel bad for people who identify as bull or bear because they’ll miss out on opportunities that dollar cost averaging brings.

oh_soo_swagless

Yes. Nothing stops this train. BTC doesn't give a rats ass about Clarity Act.

RunItupBaby

BTC has always been bullish

sheeeeeeeeei

Is that what happened? I’ve heard about similar situations. If you have a chunk of coin, it could be hard to offload it for fiat. Nobody tends to want BTC at the ATH. Gotta create incentives for the population to breed more fomoers I guess

sheeeeeeeeei

I find it funny that people say they can day trade BTC when transactions take 10 minutes to settle lol. Well, maybe they can. But I know that’s not what you’re talking about. And this whole conversation can be applied 1:1 to mining benefits (incentives to secure the chain blah blah blah) but in reality the chain can still be attacked if not enough people participate. I wonder if there are any anti gamblers out there who are bitcoin enthusiasts who consider mining to be gambling. It’s like throwing a full court shot. But it happens quite often. Maybe even less than every 13 minutes….

twoiseight

You're just personifying BTC with the traits of its investors.

Legitimate_Form5449

BTC to fiat? havent met anyone who culd do that yet

eyeofodin3

Today is quadruple witching. Any correlation with BTC price action in the past?

Otherwise-Tomato-788

Isn’t this the whole point of BTC?

Grunblau

Would you rather they use a BRIC or neutral BTC?

DeepSpaceDesperado

Because BTC is inevitable

LionRivr

BTC goes up if inflation Rate hike means there’s inflation. Rate cuts means there will be inflation.

HornyHippopotamus

Chat GPT says A few things are driving it. The Fed just raised rates 25 bps, but that hike was largely anticipated, so crypto is getting a **post-Fed relief rally** rather than another selloff. At the same time, traders who were short BTC are getting squeezed: reports show roughly **$180M+ in short liquidations**, which creates forced buying and can accelerate a move like today’s

biophysicsguy

Ten years ago you could buy about 100 loaves of bread for 1 BTC. Currently you can buy about 16,000 loaves (at $5 per loaf) for 1 BTC. You think in the future the purchasing power of BTC will drop to 840 loaves? That’s pretty bearish.

StraightPromise3596

I agree. It can affect the price in the short run, but in the long run, eveyrone know it doesn't matter and BTC doesn't care.

HelpRespawnedAsDee

It's a niche. If 2 out 1000 people know about it in the US (just making a number up), then 0.5 of Latam knows about it for example. SV is obviously an outlier, but even there most people outside the cryto, ai, and overall tech circles, which is small here anyway, don't know or care about BTC.

No_Community7021

How could it? Has BTC not being working before clarity act? Nothing changes.

verus_es_tu

Idek what the clarity act is. But based on its name it implies that Bitcoin would be subject to more scrutiny and it's transactions more heavily policed? BTC is how criminals move shit loads of money. If a law designed to make it more publicly observable failed then you have your reason why this value shot up. Not rocket science.

Used_Contribution987

Because BTC is the monster pump and dump if your getting into it now

BlackhouseBlockparty

It’s not a 1-to-1 relationship, but is an important factor. As the dollar weakens, it takes more dollars to purchase that same 1 BTC.

NeverShallDoHarmToMe

BTC went up vs all currencies

av6344

The fed gonna keep printing $ and then they will buy BTC with it and accumulate most out of all other countries. This will consequently cause correction in the crypto market (shooting all crypto up through the roof). And a new universal currency will be created.

lynchrw

so last year I some BTC for five goats. for sure what back to the replenish my supply of goats but I can only buy three goats. I wonder how that can be?

lynchrw

iska is relative. For every USDC the is one US dollar behind it which is audited. After the last short squeeze when BTC had that big runup ithe leveled out . then there was the upcoming cloture vote and pending FOMC intewar rate action. so I played it safe for a few weeks convert a majority of my crypto holdings to usdc and then they the usdc and earned a family steady 6.9%, which ain't bad really, while BTC was meandering around. So right after the cloture vote and the FOMC meeting I convert from USDC back to Crypto in a certain plan Ed distribution(BTC , ETH and SOL). Plus I keep between 15 and 20% of My overall holdings in USDC and that USDC I still lend and and earn interest on. just a strategy that seems to work to help mitigate downside risk. the bottom line for me ustc is a great place to be somewhat safe probably safe as you can earn a steady good interest rate as opposed to a bank which is less than 2% or money market which is also terrible interest rates and not even insured in some cases. oh one more thing I do with USDC or my rationale behind it. as the portfolio grows I'm maintaining that 15 to 20% in there from gains or new money to help ensure I have money to pay any taxes later the year

JohnMunchDisciple

BTC will be the global currency of our AI slavemasters. I'd rather bribe my way into working at the soylent green factory than the bone meal plant.

RevCoat633

Macro? Forex is for macro. BTC is a game. A pattern works for a few cycles, and then everyone keeps banking on that same recurring pattern. If everyone knows when to buy and when to sell, where is the game? Where is the profit? Who is going to buy at the four-year peak if everyone bought at the bottom?

Dangerous_Flower_708

Clearly BTC never needed any government

crunchyeyeball

> ...with as little fees as possible? Depends on volume & jurisdiction. Nobody can give you a "one size fits all" answer without any details. The is no single "best" option. For very large volumes (multiple BTC), many large exchanges will offer zero fee trades, or an OTC option. For smaller amounts, setting a limit sell order through e.g. Kraken Pro or Coinbase Advanced will minimise fees at the cost of not being instantaneous.

zerg_001

Fidelity and Blackrock don't directly buy BTC. Those are customer funds

OccasionalXerophile

Nanotech BTC confirmation https://preview.redd.it/zf50kzfwibqh1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f070420743fa4172697d0d567a6ec7e4b9f4893

overdude

We already had clarity on BTC trajectory

WayneTechLab

Bitcoin, a digital unit of account for transmitting data on the Blockchain a ledger, kept by community that cannot be corrupted with one-way transactions and self verification and you can be your own bank or trust others with your coins that are a single unit of 0.00000001 BTC or SAT as for 1.0 BTC is One full Bitcoin.

Satyriasis457

BTC already went up to 100k without clarity act. 

KateR_H0l1day

Buying SOL for the first time after FTX, @ \~ average $28 for the months after, then staking, still have it. Like everyone else, wishing I’d of bought more of course. But my BTC at an average of \~$50K is very nice too 😌

colemusic1

I completely agree, as per my other comment before. It’s changed **literally everything.** And people need to seriously research this. It was a small time thing in 2024 - 2025, there wasn’t that much capital flowing into it. But it’s became absolutely enormous and has changed spot BTC entirely. Cycles matter, but it’s almost silly for anyone to say they’re the exact same when we don’t even have a full cycle since it’s been institutionalised. And if we want to compare previous cycles, we’re gonna need 2-3 full cycles to really compare it to prior ones

colemusic1

There has been a significant amount of things that have changed. IBIT is genuinely no speculative BTC ETF anymore. It’s got $100B+ in assets, and we have live data now that is showing us how much inflows/outflows is happening intraday. And that’s a huge deal. And that doesn’t mean cycles don’t matter, they still do. But what it does mean is we don’t have any data on how cycles can/will run when this has only been happening since 2024. ETHA (ETH ETF) is also attracting a significant amount more inflows lately, and they even have ZEC on there now too. This is a big deal for BTC specifically though because it exposes BTC to millions of more investors who otherwise don’t own a crypto exchange account and maybe don’t want to. They simply just login to their brokerage platform, buy some IBIT and call it a day. If you want to know how significant this genuinely is right now from live readings of the top 5 most actively traded stocks / ETF’s: • IBIT (spot BTC) • BITO (BTC futures) • NVDA • INTC • SPCX

AssmanMold

BTC never needed clarity for one, and the rate hike... idk, less faith in the dollar maybe.

hoopstar80

Because government reminded us why we like BTC.

No-Version1623

The public sentiment is in favor of the crypto especially BTC but as you said, the unsual market behavior, its going to kick back once the sentiment fades away

seaglass26

Bec BTC doesn’t give a F

GigglesFor1000Alex

Here is the answer(not courtesy of me) **Bitcoin is surging back past $80,000 because the market had already priced in the CLARITY Act’s failure, and investors quickly shifted their focus to major, highly bullish structural news.** While the 49-50 Senate vote on September 15 was initially a setback, crypto markets quickly entered a "risk-on" mode driven by immediate alternative regulatory progress and massive institutional buying. Here is the breakdown of why the market shrugged off the negative news: **💡 The SEC's Massive "Tokenization" Pivot** Just days after Congress failed to pass the bill, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) introduced a major five-year exemption allowing companies to offer blockchain-based, tokenized stocks. SEC Chairman Paul Atkins signaled that the agency would move forward with its own regulatory approvals regardless of the gridlock in Congress. This convinced investors that the industry can achieve institutional integration through agency rulemaking rather than waiting on a broken legislative process. **🇺🇸 Advance of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Bil**l On September 16, a U.S. House of Representatives committee advanced the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve bill (ARMA) in a 28-21 vote. This bill authorizes the U.S. Treasury to purchase up to 1 million BTC over five years and mandates a strict 20-year federal lockup period. The prospect of the U.S. government permanently removing a massive chunk of supply from the open market has acted as an immense psychological catalyst for long-term allocators. **📊 Short Squeezes & Derivatives Liquidations** Positioning heading into the CLARITY Act vote was incredibly one-sided, resulting in nearly $480 million in long liquidations when the bill initially failed. However, once Bitcoin bottomed out near $75,000 and absorbed the shock, it broke back past the heavy resistance level at $78,000. This instantly triggered a massive short squeeze—forcing bearish traders to buy back their positions—which rapidly propelled the price above $80,000. **📈 Corporate "Whales" Are Not Stopping** Major corporate entities are treating the dip as a massive buying opportunity. Strategy Inc. (formerly MicroStrategy) reaffirmed its unwavering commitment to aggressive accumulation. The company holds over 845,000 BTC (roughly 4% of the total 21 million capped supply) and announced plans to raise up to $80 billion through debt and equity to buy even more Bitcoin. **💎 Shrugging Off the Fed's Rate Hike** The market also brushed off the Federal Reserve raising its benchmark interest rate to 3.75% for the first time in three years. Because the hike was accompanied by easing oil supply inflation concerns, macro investors treated the decision as a stabilizing force for the broader financial system rather than a headwind for digital assets.

shantm79

I understand the quantum risk in general, but not fully on the risks to banks or BTC.

TitanicChurro

Holy shit padner...why are you hodling that much BTC online? If you ever get it back...make sure to buy a Trezor or something and get it off the net.

Byizo

Is a 5% price jump considered bullish now? Man, BTC volatility isn’t what it used to be.

Senior-Cheesecake699

Once Trump commences second War on Iran, BTC tumbles again

vinnie_james

Because BTC is the Apex predator of assets

DiamondHandsDarrell

When other investment vehicles and lanes don't look like they can generate wealth, the money pours back into BTC

ilovesaintpaul

Honey badger don't care, and neither does BTC.

symonym7

DXY jumped 2% with the rate hike. 1 BTC = 1 BTC

MillerBlade2

Well the thing about BTC because it doesn’t matter what passes and what doesn’t nothing will change how it fundamentally works.

xaviemb

A smart dude (Physicist) in the BTC Youtube space that has a very rational TA approach, but he's fixated on putting previous cycles onto this one as if the peak was anything like the previous... Lots of people quote him and point to his 'research' as reason to have avoided DCAing into Bitcoin in the low $60k's all summer. Markets don't let you "time" them based on previous models the masses follow. If they did, everyone would be a billionaire.

McDrunkin521

The true BTC holders don't care about the clarity act and know BTC is the future regardless of the clarity act passing. It would have been great but it's not a deal breaker IMO. We gonna moon!!!! 🚀 🚀

rottiesrule88

BTC network doesn’t read the news

Immediate_Coast5830

This is exactly why this country is fucked. How many ways do they need to show you that this is rigged? Go look at the post last year around this time when people were claiming BTC was going to $200k and beyond. Wake TF up!

El_Daywalkerino

The quickest way to expose yourself as a crypto pleb is to ask "why the BTC pump today". the BTC pump was pre-ordained and needs no reason on any given day

KFC_Tuesdays

I can literally bet without fail there’s a post every time BTC moves upwards, zoom out a bit and you’ll see we’ve been consolidating in a range for month’s. This and the other 5 “pump” aren’t pumps in the slightest.

PM_ME_UR_0_DAY

No handy resources to share, but I could probably answer your question. Were you wondering on the quantum risk in general, or this "would a bank or BTC be more fucked by a quantum computer?"

ParkerRoyce

I called the CEO of BTC and asked for them to raise the price, thats why.

praise_the_most_high

Clarity needs BTC. BTC doesn‘t need Clarity.

No_Community7021

I'm from the Canary Islands, Spain and I've been interested in BTC and other cryptos for a couple years. I've had cold storage, I've had different wallets and right now I'm just holding them in Kraken. None of my social circle is interested and I'd basically tell them to go have a conversation with the AI if they want to learn.

quintavious_danilo

Am I the only one angry at BTC for going up like that? Stay down, I was not finished buying.

Leviathan_Dev

No. Bitcoin has a smallest unit: a Satoshi being 0.00000001 BTC. You can’t go smaller than that.

MittenSplits

As an avid bitcoiner, I'm actually anti- clarity act. BTC doesn't need it. All of the shitcoiners looking for loopholes to the Howey rule need it.

EchoChamberReddit13

I’m wondering when BTC will be truly seen as a hedge against central banks. I view it as that currently, but the rest of the world isn’t there yet.

Brawmethius

For a bitcoin sub I am amazed no one follows the explosion of perpetual futures and derivatives in BTC now. CME and Binance regularly the leading moves now and ETFs forced to follow. Derivative to spot volume is regularly 10-20x; currently at about 13x. Almost all the big random moves are now kicked off from binance in the perp markets. Dealer gamma just flipped massively.

Tomaxisthatdude

BTC knows when the money printer goes Brrrrrrrrrrrr.....

ChickerWings

Because the Clarity act was bullshit and BTC literally does not give a fuck about any of that.

AncientMoth11

BTC gives no fucks and more recognizing the above

Flimsy_Oven_7569

Because BTC is going to do what BTC wants to do.

mountain_drifter

Welcome to Bitcoin, and just hear me out on this one. Could it be that the answer is in the assumption that clarity act passing is necessary for BTC, and automatically bullish? Just because social influencers and politicians say one thing is true, doesnt mean the market will give the expected price action. You are being manipulated on all fronts (we all are), and once you believe the future price of BTC must react to the sentiment of talking heads, you become a participant in the game.

ilovesaintpaul

Because BTC is the honey badger of the financial world.

LyeeRoy

BTC goes up because I sold some of it two days ago. You are welcome

theincognito66

the FED printer isn't going to stop. Nothing fundamentally changed about BTC because the act failed. These are just a couple of reasons.

adjudantloic

BTC system doesn't care about this sh.t...

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Porcellanidae

Can you make one for 0.01 BTC jumps ?

pablo_in_blood

No, it isn’t, unless we reach an apocalypse scenario, in which case no amount of BTC or dollars will do you much good

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