BTC

Tall-Ad1293

This is the most underrated tax trap. You pay capital gains tax on pure inflation just to break even in real purchasing power. This is exactly why 'never sell, just borrow against your BTC' became the playbook.

Neat-Bodybuilder1670

If you disregard current prices and market trends, and simply want to purchase a fixed dollar amount of BTC every month, what is your objective in doing so?

PreferenceOk2716

Malone Lam, a Miami resident charged with stealing 4,100 bitcoin, led a ring of fraudsters who stole crypto via online scams and home invasions. We obsess over breaking cryptography, but one of history's biggest BTC thefts basically came down to convincing one human to hand over access.

Squeiner

20s, as much as you can manage to stack 30s, as much as you can manage to stack 40s, as much as you can manage to stack 50s, 3.1557 BTC 60s, as much as you can manage to stack Run your own race man

Efficient_Range1156

20s 0.1 BTC 30s 0.5 BTC 40s 1.0 BTC 50s 2.0 BTC 60s and over, spend that shit 🚗 ✈️ 🏠

MixDouble5264

thanks! that's a bit of shame to see that u/robleregal is lying, for me you deserve the BTC as you went in the vault that was empty

unknowngloomth

Trading? You buy when everyone says crypto is dead and sell when everyone is saying BTC is hitting $1M mark. Rinse and repeat. Plus, BTC had pathetic rois compared to boring Nvidia and XOM for the last 5 years. Even gold blew BTC out of water 1 year. Gold and silver are up for the last 1 year whereas BTC is down.. BTC needs a new narrative to go up because it sure isn't a hedge against inflation as during geopolitical instability it dips unlike gold. I wonder what's the next narrative for BTC? 🤔

Revolutionary_Karma

'I'm a mercenary', you just made my day. Gl with your daytrading, 99% of traders lose money, but you're the guru mercenary. Idk why you bother responding if you're just in it for the money. I've been a long term investor since 2017, idm bagholding BTC.

unknowngloomth

I'm a mercenary. I could care less about this "BTC is the only legit crypto" I'm here to make money. I take profits. I'm not like you who's bagholding BTC. You just didn't marry BTC but you also had kids with it. Brutal. ETH? Lmaooo 🤣

Revolutionary_Karma

BTC is the only legit crypto project. Close with Ethereum. 99% of the other projects are just slot machines. Sometimes you win, long term you'll lose. By your attitude you're likely believing you're the 1% god. Altcoins = gambling in a casino.

unknowngloomth

Yeah. Let me guess. "Buy BTC only bruh" fuck outta here

Hakushakuu

Think AAVE is worth holding. It more or less follow BTC just with a wider beta. 126 entry is still pretty good considering few days ago it was 140. Maybe just wait for another 'sell the news' situation and sell it.

beardhero_ben

Think of it like your on chain BTC is your savings account and lightning is your current account, you keep money in there that you can use for day to day spending but the main stack is still secure in a cold wallet

MrDryGuy_

iPhone 16 Pro - 20. Sept. 2024 - $999 - 0,01580 BTC iPhone 17 Pro - 19. Sept. 2025 - $1.099 - 0,00950 BTC iPhone 18 Pro - 10. Sept. 2026 - $1.199 - 0,01535 BTC

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creative_usr_name

I emptied the vault first. Send me proof your proof and 2 BTC and it's yours

MayaCrafts91

Yeah, that makes sense. I’m probably going to keep BTC/ETH as the core and only use SOL for a smaller part, especially since one bad wick can undo a lot pretty quickly. The leaderboard is already looking interesting though, curious how aggressive people are going to get with the remaining days.

MayaCrafts91

Yeah, that’s pretty much where I’m leaning too. BTC and ETH for liquidity, then SOL for the extra movement. Not sure how I am going to perform. I will probably provide some updates later. I'm very new on trading.

Michael-Ryder

For a short competition I’d probably stick with BTC, ETH and SOL. Enough liquidity to get in and out easily, but SOL still gives you more volatility if you’re actually trying to trade rather than just hold.

Swift-Teapot-751

I’d probably go BTC, SOL and ETH. Curious what everyone else is picking, especially for the higher-volatility plays.

theAerialDroneGuy

.01 BTC is actually $785 at todays BTC Price of $78,499.91

absinthiumxmr

Its also far easier to buy privacy coins like Monero in Iran than it is in the US now. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1v6amu1/iran\_has\_listed\_monero\_on\_every\_exchange\_in\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1v6amu1/iran_has_listed_monero_on_every_exchange_in_the/) For the record, BTC is not anti-fragile for sanctions avoidence. The moment the US threatens mining farms into censoring transactions coming from OFAC-sanctioned addresses is the moment everything breaks for it. With Iran and several other countries starting to use Crypto for this purpose, it is only a matter of time.

crazybird-thereal

I dont know since how you are in crypto, but here a cold reality : \- DCA BTC only. \- You found a better coin ( it’s better, perform better, do more, more secure, ...), do DCA BTC only. \- You saw this coin doing a x1000, it’s already too late for you to make money on it, do DCA BTC only. \- Since 2017, I started crypto (with mining), and never spend money on BTC, thinking, something else could do better, it’s totaly correct to says if i had spend my money into DCA BTC only instead, i should be between 3 to 5 times richer. I saw many btc killer, I also had ADA, but market is not "logic", it’s seems to only reward : DCA BTC only. Just do a boring brainless DCA BTC only, and forget about the rest, your life will be easyer

ByWillAlone

I keep 90% of my BTC on my own self custody wallet, but I typically keep 10% of it on an exchange to make it 'easier' to execute transactions (or so I thought). My exchange used to be coinbase but they pulled this same bullshit with me. I've been a customer of coinbase since their first year in business, have previously kept up with every last one of their account verification requirements. I've had the same phone number, same email address, same social security number the entire time. And then I tried to transfer a little bit of it to my own account on another exchange and they did this to me. The only difference is they said I couldn't try again for 30 days. F that. After the 30 days were up I moved every last bit of BTC out of coinbase.

crazybird-thereal

What happend to him ? Has he always been like this ? At first i saw a man defending BTC, but now it’s just a clown....

DontLook_Weirdo

I like minimalistic and this is that. Cool app, but only if BTC is your only hold.

Pretty_Breakfast_962

Solution to the 0.008964 BTC puzzle The trick is a 6-bit encoding disguised as six perforated cards. The six cards are labelled: 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1 For any number from 1–64, each card answers a yes/no question: does that number appear through the holes on this card? Six binary answers give exactly: 2⁶ = 64 possible states So every number from 1 to 64 can have its own unique six-card pattern. The clever part is that the mapping can be expressed with XOR. Using the cards that contain the number, the solution is: N = 1 + (37 XOR K₃₂ XOR K₁₆ XOR K₈ XOR K₄ XOR K₂ XOR K₁) where the keys are: - 32 → 26 - 16 → 22 - 8 → 10 - 4 → 36 - 2 → 43 - 1 → 63 Only include the keys for cards on which the number appears. Example If the number appears on cards 32, 8 and 1: 37 XOR 26 XOR 10 XOR 63 = 10 Then: 10 + 1 = 11 Therefore the hidden number is 11. The famous “38” moment The volunteer says: «“I can't find this number!”» That means the number appears on none of the six cards. So all six cards are absent. Using the equivalent absent-card formulation: N = 1 + (19 XOR 26 XOR 22 XOR 10 XOR 36 XOR 43 XOR 63) Calculate: 19 XOR 26 = 9 9 XOR 22 = 31 31 XOR 10 = 21 21 XOR 36 = 49 49 XOR 43 = 26 26 XOR 63 = 37 37 + 1 = 38 So the magician can immediately say 38. There is no supernatural guessing: “I can't find it on any card” gives the magician the unique all-zero 6-bit state, and that state maps to 38. The seventh card / Franklin magic square provides the physical presentation of the mapping, while the six cards provide the binary information. So the core mechanism is: 6 binary cards → 64 states → XOR mapping → one unique number (1–64). That explains how the magician can determine the number without seeing the cards. 1GajcPPZYUCeCV8LQ126qM1iJjBYEFpf1g

MysteriousAlpaco

i would like to know the method of social engineering involved if a 22 year old and his crew managed to convince someone holding over 4,100 BTC to hand over access just because they were posing as Google or Gemini.

SeaworthinessSad7300

I am not convinced that BTC isnt going close to zero tbh

discusking

I clearly do understand them. I was being facetious. I’ve held my crypto since 2020 because I know what’s coming. BTC had a split and the next bull has been delayed. It’ll go off soon enough.

666Dxrk

You can sell some to me, I need some BTC rn

AirlineFluffy1320

BTC and ETH. AXGT for a utilty token, and HOLD for meme token. If you want, ask and I'll give you contract addresses for AXGT and HOLD.

BigPlayCrypto

UpUp and BTC

na3than

With 100 BTC surely you can afford a keyboard with a working period key.

snksleepy

I heard the US government lost a ton of BTC because Elon fired a few guys who held the security keys.

Nio_HODLer2021

Maybe so but they got a money printer. BTC is finite.

isableandaking

It's kinda like saying I see food at the store, I eat food from store, I cook food, I don't know cows that get slaughtered, I don't know about viruses that spread due to no inspections, I don't follow politics and know of orange mango that removed said inspections. WAIT WHY DID I GET SICK FROM EATING THAT STEAK. So yeah fiat, gold, stock, goods, real-estate - they all have value, it's good to be 99% in BTC, makes you feel safe, you don't have to worry about the market - you can just DCA and you will get rich and sleep soundly. OR you can take on a bit of risk and get EVEN MORE RICH at the price of sleeping less soundly.

isableandaking

Are you sure you are not an AI bot ? If you think that in 2029 when BTC hits $200k you can't sell your BTC temporarily and then put some shorts - you CAN choose 1x leverage - which means basically your full stack, so you would only lose money if the price goes to $400k. But in the other case where BTC might retrace back to $125k, you can make $75k per each BTC you are short, if you are short even 1 BTC, that's an extra $75k you made from it going down, now you can buy like 0.5 BTC more and have 1.5BTC, previously you had only 1. Now if you are SUPER sure that the usual BTC cycle will happen, you can do 1.5x or 2x leverage, then you can potentially make even more money, but if BTC goes to $300k you are gonna be at a loss. If you use 6x leverage, you are playing with 6btc, you can be wiped out by even small 10% movements up - so just be ULTRA sure if you want to do stupid stuff like that - I don't recommend, this is more akin to gambling than investing. And just to be clear my fiat holdings are negligible compared to my stock/crypto portfolio - lol.

ir88ed

"Having 100 BTC won't change who you are." That is a hypothesis. But I am willing to test it. For science.

WildNight00

I wish there was an app that accepted crypto for QR code payments in Asia I know know TrueWallet has BTC giftcards but really only works in Thailand

Bred_Slippy

Having 100 BTC won't change who you are. Things won't magically happen. Work on you. If you don't like your life, work out what needs to change. Don't wait on 100 BTC. Get professional help if needed. Good luck. 

Agent_Q1207

so in other words you stole BTC and now asking reddit how to escape from your crimes lol?

Cold_Service_6200

Love the commitment to the bit. That vault screams "I've got 0.0003 BTC in cold storage and I'll guard it with my life"

nugymmer

This happened a while ago. They stole a bunch of BTC and were like "Oh my God" the whole time. Didn't impress me at all. Bunch of thieves.

brandond111

Where did the BTC come from?

jgarcya

Why aren't we seeing new addresses with newly transfered BTC in the millions.

jgarcya

Then government auctions off said BTC..... Ultimately profiting from stolen goods.... Then people in government steal the stolen profit.... All "legally" of course.

UnsersGottaGo

>They found an exploit and wants to be compensated. They definitely have the leverage with 46 million dollars worth of BTC siting there. How about a ~~dognapper~~ dognapping consultant? they discovered your good boy is vulnerable and wants to be compensated. They defintiely have the leverage with your dog currently in his basement

FTFOatl

Government lets young foolish hacker steal BTC. Government confiscates BTC.

omg_its_dan

They used very simple social engineering techniques. The victim somehow had 4,100 BTC with zero clue how to secure it.

karma_hit_my_dogma

Imagine selling that much BTC for a fuckin watch

FuckTwelvee

Miami and BTC, name a better duo.

ubermensch1001

Outside of BTC, the main alts are ETH, XRP, Sol, ADA and Link. You probably could add Tron there as well. The whole point is that if you are still holding ADA right now it makes absolutely no sense to be selling near the lows here lol, which is exactly what retail did back in June after the yoroi wallet hack.

_Commando_

The only thing that I don't like about ADA is that "A LOT" of the activity is actually "off chain" at least 50+% of it via their partners and bridges, which is why I always keep seeing comments like "oh Cardano is dead, no activity..." but in reality it's quite the opposite. I mined ETH when it was $3, also mined BTC when it was sub $60 so I've been around for a while and know ADA is holding a great set of cards. As the old saying goes "Good things take time".

JimmySki6166

Look at the price of BTC 5 years ago

bemyantimatter

It’s been a weird day. My Coinbase debit card is also declined at the grocery store and target. I called Coinbase so that I could use the debit card which is USDC and they say that the whole account is locked up until the 72 hour verification related to the BTC transfer is complete. Once again, the BTC transfer was $100 transfer from Coinbase to a hardware wallet that is in my possession. I don’t see why that should affect my debit card at all.

anotherbrckinTH3Wall

How can I make myself more vulnerable to a 5 dollar wrench attack? I know, I’ll wear BTC branded trainers everywhere

Cold_Respond_7656

Is BTC back over 120k and no one told me Otherwise 0.01 ain’t buying you the new 18 pro

dj_destroyer

I can get the iPhone 18 Pro for 0.01 BTC? Damn, that seems like a no brainer

martinbogo

No, it didn’t. The value of Bitcoin is in the exchange and earn rate. In 2016, I would earn 0.114 BTC/hr ( yes, I got paid in BTC ) and would spend about 40% of that on various daily needs like rent and such In 2026, I earn 0.00121 BTC/hr ( yes, still being paid in BTC ) and I still spend about 35% of that on various daily needs like rend, food, and such So, assuming your estimate is correct — in 2016 I’d have to work 12 hours to pay for it … realistically, that would be closer to 30 hours because of the spend/save split. In 2026, I have to work about 8.3 hours, and realistically that’s loser to 20 hours to pay for it. I do earn more now ( fiat about $95/hr equivalent ) but it’s about a wash for the total number of hours I need to work to purchase, even with inflation. BTC is only worth something if it moves around, does things… it’s not just an investment vehicle, it’s a living exchange of value. Without ME earning and using BTC daily it’s worth … honestly .. nothing more. Get it?

ubermensch1001

If in 2027-2029 we actually get a lot of euphoria into the crypto market ADA will ride along with it. 2024-2025 we essentially had no alt season and it was entirely BTC, with a select few alts doing very well; Solana and XRP in particular. ETH really didn't do anything during this time, summer of 2023 it was trading at a similar price to where we were until this pump in the market in August. Let's say we see BTC hit a new all time high and go above 200k in 2028, alts for sure will rally hard. Seeing ETH at 5k+ will be very easy and I think this is when we actually see the alt season everyone was hoping for in 2025. If ETH gets to 8k+ it's not at all unrealistic to see ADA back to $1+. We can speculate all day as to whether it will go to it's ATH of $3 or well beyond, but the point is that EVERYTHING will run hard if we do in fact see an alt season. ADA right now at 20 cents is at a place where huge gains can be made WITHOUT even needing to be anywhere near ATH.

jimmytug

Not exactly, it is one type of self custody. Self custody could be a piece of paper. If you don't understand how, study up on BTC.

ChainFolioAi

Sorry, that's a rough way to learn it. For anyone hitting the same wall — the problem is usually the withdrawal minimum, not the balance, and there are normally two things to try before going anywhere near gift cards: Convert the dust into whichever asset has the cheapest withdrawal network on that exchange. Minimums are set per asset and per network, and the gap between BTC on mainnet and a stablecoin on a cheap chain can be an order of magnitude. Check whether the exchange allows internal transfers to another user on the same platform. Those usually have no minimum and no fee, so someone else's account can get the funds out and hand them back. Gift-card resellers are the worst option on the list: you pay in crypto so there's no chargeback, and if the code comes back already redeemed you have no way to prove who redeemed it. That's the part with no recourse — not the exchange. Did coinsbee take card at any point, or was it crypto the whole way?

Illustrious_Ant_9242

It's correct. The earlier you mined and the more machines you had, the more Bitcoin you would get. For example, a buddy of mine had 4 upper tier GPUs and mined about 200 BTC in 4 months. His dorm room was steaming hot.  With every month, it was getting harder to mine Bitcoin, so rewards would be lower

RetiredAvocado

50000 BTC was mined every week by the entire network. It's unlikely that any one entity had a sprawling mining farm of PCs. Bitcoin was basically worthless and there was no incentive to set up hundreds of computers to mine. GPU mining was not big until late 2010 or so. It was a tinkerer hobby, with many people doing some mining here and there. Maybe some people abused their work owned hardware, or school PC labs to mine more than others. Most people did not have dedicated rooms full of GPUs mining because it was not worth doing. Not until later.

Infinite_Raise8611

Well by pure return vs BTC Eth underperformed, SOL absolutely destroyed BTC, AVAX underperformed, XRP underperformed but hardly, XLM basically same return, and Zcash obliterated them all. I sold all near top and have reentered and am very confident in my allocation heading towards this next cycle. Would be shocked if ETH/SOL don’t outperform BTC this next cycle.

Satoshiman256

I could almost guarantee that if you hadn't bought any of those alts and only got Bitcoin, you would have been way better off. If you have a crypto tracker, don't compare against USD, compared against BTC.

ubermensch1001

I would just let that bag ride, it's a decent size to where if it does well you can make a good amount of money but it's not so much where you should consider reallocating these funds into something else. It's a little over 2k right now, less than 1 ETH and about .025 BTC. However, it's incredibly low right now and could easily make very large returns, getting to just 40 cents is almost a 2x from here. Not saying you should buy more of it, but I wouldn't really consider selling unless you don't have much $ to throw into the crypto space and this is a major part of your portfolio.

Secret_Operative

That actually sounds right to me. In 2011 I did the math for GPU mining and it was something like a 3 month timeframe to mine enough to pay for the GPU. And that was with free electricity. I think to get 50k BTC it would take a lot of GPUs. Hundreds of GPUs. But in 2010 you could just stick $20 in an envelope and send it to someone, and they would send you BTC. /shrug.

bemyantimatter

This is self custody. I am literally attempting to remove BTC from the exchange to a hardware wallet and being blocked by Coinbase.

Asz12_Bob

Half the sub hates him but he's done more than anyone to bring awareness of bitcoin to the public. If we were at $190K now they would all be singing him praises. If you believe in BTC, just hodl it and shutup.

StPeir

I remember doing that too but it was always like a dollar of this or a dollar of that…. This mother fucker thought he had mined enough BTC to justify coming here from an app that looks like it’s an IOS game with micro transaction. Cryptoville new player bonus now 90% off unlock it for only 5000 diamonds! 💎 💎 💎

adler1959

I mean you can’t hodl if you pay with your BTC so kind of make sense from his POV

Prestigious-Buddy539

Honest to god how you guys can be positive about BTC when Luke/Mechanic/Krazy Kratter Blake coin is sucking up all the liquidity!!!! 😂😂😂

indapinda1

Is it possible to start a class action lawsuit against Trezor/google for having so many loopholes for hackers? I lost 1.6 BTC on a fake website that came up from My google search. Are there other victims out there?

Detailed23

That's because BTC is utter trash.

SeparateCommon2363

OP most likely pointing out Saylor doesn't care that its BTC, he would shill for any asset he can package up and sell up to any potential buyer, he doesn't care about utility usage, blockchain, decentralization etc. So of course Saylor wouldn't accept his money making asset as payment when all he wants in the end is more fiat USD not BTC

NeuralFantasy

It's amazing how many people here think cherry-picking 8 things to a basket gives a better indication of inflation than CPI which (AFAIK) tracks over 200 categories of goods and tens of thousands of individual items. Sheesh... I get that people love BTC and hate Fiat money but this just ridiculous.

xaviemb

I find it fascinating that so many people are dunking on a man who literally acquired \~170,000 BTC by way of his company this year (so far) at an average entry price of $77,000 \[talk about DCA the dip\] To be clear just how hypocritical this kind of post is... You collect a salary in USD... do you demand your salary in Bitcoin? You pay for groceries in USD... do you seek our grocery sources who accept Bitcoin? You buy your shoes on Amazon (just a guess)... have you moved that commerce to Bitcoin only companies? But you take the time to post this dunk on a man who is doing more for Bitcoin adoption... than any other human on earth this year. It's a fascinating human psychology to find a bad guy... every cycle bottom requires it, I guess.

PeteyPab305

and thus the reason BTC payments and general crypto application will not succeed til boomers are gone, and the nitwits are weeded out. Natural selection accelerated at the speed of broadband.

PeteyPab305

You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your BTC..

Chaoticsinner2294

I never payed too much attention to saylor but when I listened to him I liked him. Until he gave an interview this year where the guy asked if companies sole business model was holding BTC and saylor just attacked him the whole rest of the interview. Has struck me as a total charlatan ever since

Pleasant_Maybe_5523

This is the part of Bitcoin people in stable economies often miss. If your bank works and your currency is stable, BTC can look purely speculative. But ask someone dealing with capital controls or a currency losing 30–50% of its value — suddenly permissionless money makes a lot more sense.

NilNow

its especially weird for it to be doing it before BTC is back in price discovery. it seems to be largely due to institutional moves by DCG, grayscale, winklevoss twins, etc that can have have a big impact with its relatively low market cap, along with every VC, influencer and shiller out there pushing it. my guess is eventually they run out of steam and capital, so we'll see if retail really picks it up or not. but if that does happen then in theory, even the $20B market cap its at now could have a LONG way to go.

ir88ed

In another comment I said "ETF is a fire-and-forget promise to give you paper for your BTC" and the phrasing was intentional. ETF is a promise. Exchanges promise to give you your coins or cash back. I think ETFs will likely be fine long term, but they are still just a promise.

No-Confusion4519

The bigger signal here isn’t BTC price, it’s crypto being used as settlement infrastructure when traditional rails are constrained. We’ve talked about that use case for years — now we’re seeing it tested at sovereign scale.

Infinite_Raise8611

I don’t disagree at all- my crypto portfolio comprised of 60% BTC 18% ETH, 15% SOL/some AVAX/XRP/XLM and rest alt moonshots. I just don’t believe in the industry wide hype wave up again. It’ll be isolated projects w solid fundamentals along w random meme coins. Had little bit of Zcash but dumped it on pump- hope to reenter at some point

Traditional_Most105

The point is making profits. Some do it by putting their money in BTC which is more safe and with less upside, others try to identify some coins that are more useful than others and could go up in the near future with higher upside... for sure altseason might not come again but that doesn't mean that some alts won't be successful in their own way... you just have to identify them before they do... Also BTC cycle might be different this time or it might not... there are many people who believe in the cycle and so they invest the time they base it on the cycle so the cycle and eventually altseason could be a self fulfilling prophecy as well... it's speculation at it's core.

Hobophobic_Hipster

The inflation the BTC bro won't tell you about.... \+78,180.25 (17,220.70%)all time

AutomaticJob5692

The corporate wrapper adding leverage risk is the whole point ppl miss about MSTR. Direct BTC ownership doesnt have preferred dividend obligations

riplin

> They definitely have the leverage with 46 million dollars worth of BTC siting there. Yes, using that leverage is commonly referred to as extortion.

PsychologicalCap5770

No convincing me that BTC wasn’t developed by CIA

unknowngloomth

5k? 🤣 This BTC maxi wishing misfortune upon on me. Wow. That's not nice 😉

raj6126

Exactly Iran is using BTC how it’s was developed to be used.

Shadowrak

If I ever do stupid things like a random app that gives BTC for playing a shitty game, I certainly generate a new wallet.

unknowngloomth

So mad. I'm just replying to your BTC maxi bullshit. Just recommend BTC to the guy, dawg 💀

unknowngloomth

I mine TARI and now I mine Zkas. I'm not a hurry to sell them. Plus I hold HYPE bought it around $10. Bought ZEC around $200 also hold BTC. Bought it around $16k. I'm massively in profit 😌

Icy_Giraffe_21

Could very well be a white hat. He found an exploit and wants to be compensated. They definitely have the leverage with 46 million dollars worth of BTC siting there.

unknowngloomth

Did you buy Zcash when it crashed to 200? Did you buy hyperliquid at $10? Did you buy Venice when it crashed to $10? Let me guess. You just holding BTC. Yeah listen to this guy BTC with a market cap at 1 trillion. Buy ETH bruh.. 🤣

xaviemb

Here let's make this really simple then... \[a House valued at 5BTC\] vs. \[Holding 5 Bitcoin\]... and as you say: >"Bitcoin was the only currency and everything else disappeared" Then your house remains one house... but the value of 5 BTC when it replaces all fiat (as you stated)... goes up about one third of a million percent (not an exaggeration. Point being... you're saying Bitcoin becomes less valuable when it replaces fiat... which is a false premise. Things stay the same value... but in a deflationary world, Bitcoin gains value as humanity productivity and growth expands (which is an assumption with time and population).