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It's wild watching the market unwind like this
BTC up 100 million % , what a time to be alive
“If the network can freeze coins it decides are ‘vulnerable,’ is that still your keys your coins?”
It’s a good time to consider Roth Conversion of BTC ETF
BTC support is getting tested while the AI stock trade still has oxygen
Why won't I sell at a price I won't buy at?
BlackRock IBIT got dumped for $1.26 billion in a single day but the S&P keeps going up, make it make sense
Majorana 2 from Microsoft - next leap in quantum computing - your thoughts ?
I asked ChatGPT it’s objective opinion of BTC
Best account location for a small BTC allocation: Roth IRA, Traditional IRA, or taxable brokerage?
Is it only me or too many things are happening at once?
Beginner here, why don't multi billionaire's buy all BTC?
The Market Still Hasn’t Capitulated
Been through this before, a word for the newcomers freaking out right now
My Bottoming Theory for this cycle
Cheapest way to buy USDT (ETH network)
Why is everyone crying about the fiat price when 1 BTC = 1 BTC?
One of the guys i follow said this, what do you guys think ?
INSTITUTIONAL CRYPTO PRICE TARGETS 2026
Bitcoin Buys A Home: Better And Coinbase Close First Fannie Mae-Backed BTC Mortgage
A Bitcoin metric that has historically marked every bear market bottom has flashed again. More BTC is now being held at a loss than at a profit, with 10.5 million bitcoin underwater compared to 9.8 million in profit.
Solo Bitcoin Miners Keep Pocketing Full Block Rewards in 2026: Here's How
What are the odds BTC is crashing because someone figured out how to mint unlimited BTC and release it into the market? 😏
Predicted the BTC top with 90% accuracy two years ahead
Nasdaq at ATH while BTC down 50% from ATH and -30% YTD.
What crypto event is actually driving the most chatter right now?
BTC support is getting tested while the AI stock trade still has oxygen
₿ Bitcoin is Approaching the 200-Week Moving Average
What If Satoshi Nakamoto Was Never a Person?
built VibeTrader MCP to make ChatGPT and Claude actually useful for crypto traders.
HIVE Sells 331 Bitcoin, What Comes Next For Its Treasury?
Do you think the public will turn against crypto if proof of Trump and family accepting bribes/laundering money through crypto comes out?
How do you track capital rotation between BTC and altcoins?
How do you personally separate a long-term hold from a bag you're just refusing to sell
The Crypto Fear Gauge Just Hit 11. Here Is What That Actually Mean
Reversing the recent market implosion
Anyone had a payout from the US Treasury regarding restitution from the BitConnect scam?
Coinbureau posted Strategy will likely continue having to selling BTC to pay dividends
BTC bearish on 4H, but 15M gave a clean long scalp. Would you take both sides?
Lightning isn't a payment channel between two people. It's a graph that routes.
My bull case for the second half of 2026: the biggest melt up in the history of crypto is coming, and they're trying every trick in the book to make you sell here.
Is crypto a leading indicator right now?
Bear market cheat sheet: a 70% ATH drop would bring BTC down to 38K-ish
Stocks are trading the AI boom. Bitcoin is trading the cost of money. One of these markets is likely ahead of the other, and the resolution of that divergence may tell us a lot about where liquidity is headed into year-end.
If you could go back to 2016 but could only buy 1 BTC, would you have held it until today?
BlackRock IBIT got dumped for $1.26 billion in a single day but the S&P is still pumping, this disconnect is wild
AI agents inside crypto wallets genuinely useful or just another buzzword layered onto Web3?
Bitcoin lost $66,000 while Nvidia hit all-time highs and the guys who told us to hold are selling
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BTC is a good investment. Limited supply, proof of work and first to do it. But it will never replace a fiat currency, because btc is *limited.* A fiat that is limited, as proven countless times before, is not working.
They aren't going to $0, but they will trend lower and lower compared to BTC. Litecoin is still hanging around $40 for instance and Bcash is at $200, these are prices we saw in the fall of 2020 when BTC was trading around 10k.
Number 2 is totally not true, everyone kinda thought they are buying XMR when using BTC for that....
Honestly, I do think there is a very strong case to just convert ETH into BTC because it's potentially to massively outperform it are gone. You could do that and then allocate into some top alt projects and blow it out of the water, there's almost no reason to bother with it in my opinion, and I do have a position in this.
Why you checking 97 times a day if 1 BTC = 1 BTC? Seems mad sus
You regards don't understand how this works. Every time you say "the bottom is close" it means the bottom isn't close. It's not about sentiment, it's about BTC not being in the public consciousness.
Yeah sure. But BTC will drop a lot more innit. The bear market is just egtting warmed up!
It’s the only blockchain that isn’t just a ledger and has actual use cases. When the bubble pops, BTC and ICP will be two of the very few that come out alive. It’s more like an undervalued tech company at this point
You know how many things that run on SHA256 can be switched easily without the need for consensus from many different conflicted parties? And ECDSA will be broken before SHA256, you know the thing that secures public/private keys? And your bank account, mortgage, etc. are all centralized. All that needs to happen is for me to prove to JP Morgan that I'm me. Cannot prove that I'm the owner of a certain BTC address if others know my private key. And how will a BIP deal w a dwindling security budget? These are real issues and I'm not suggesting there aren't solutions. I'm saying it's concerning that very few people are actually debating these issues, rather they're selling and moving on to other things. I didn't sell any BTC for almost a decade, now I'm selling regularly until the actual community around Bitcoin cares about Bitcoin the chain, rather than Bitcoin the number.
I proudly own 400+ full BTC , It's a shame the solid 400 is in a landfill somewhere in Alabama! But still stacking lol
And in the next 16 years, zero pizzas were bought with BTC.
No I think they mean everything. Look at bitcoin. Look at MSTR and them selling BTC. Why would they only mean alt coins?
The person making this graph to get more people to buy BTC. Strange how something is allegedly so fantastic but still need the stakeholders to work so hard for other people to join.
bruv, BTC is an old memecoin with a hateful reddit cult and an overleveraged clown as a mascot
As things are so far BTC, ETH and Hype will survive. Maybe also something like Worldcoin if it becomes the solution to proof of humanity. Everything else will pretty much zero out eventually.
I am trying to push up BTC so be quick and come on board of my rocket.
My personal opinion, I think there is a ton of support around 48k to the low 60k range. This was low of the mini bear market we had late summer of 2024, it bottomed out at 48k and spent the next 3 months ranging around 60k. I don't think we drop meaningfully BELOW this unless there is some sort of very major catalyst, talking like Strategy dumping their BTC holdings or something along those lines.
I think the issue is, man, most retail investors that first enter into this space almost entirely speculate on alts during hype/mania phases without really knowing anything about the market at all. When you consider this, the panic and hate you will see makes sense. ADA is trash, SOL is trash, etc. These people probably bought at or near the highs and then got absolutely dumped on. Imagine buying ADA last year at 80 cents, which was well below the high of late 2024, and think about how you'd feel if you were still holding from there lol. The reality is most people would be better off just dollar cost averaging into BTC and treating it like a savings account.
Except he didn't... He paid someone 10000 BTC to use fiat to order him a pizza
Been buying BTC since 2019 and never sold. I will sell when I can buy back my mortgage (~500k) if/whenever that is (2030 or 2040) or never.. that fine by me Cheer
This is the dumbest post ever. It’s not a stable coin so it doesn’t have to reach 100. Regardless, selling a tiny amount of BTC is not what affected the price.
There's nothing wrong with holding alts, but you were/are way too heavily allocated into them at the expense of being light on BTC. I first got into this space way back in 2018 and there going into the bull market of 2021 I also made the mistake of being too heavy in alts, though not to the extent of how you were positioned. By 2022 I had repositioned and disregarding the mini alt rallies we had in Q1 and Q4 of 2024, I was mostly sitting at around 70% BTC. To answer your question though. Alts are getting absolutely decimated right now and are insanely undervalued right now. What you are seeing right now is a very rare black swan event in the crypto space and in my opinion this is NOT the right time to be making major moves with regards to repositioning your portfolio. However, I saw on one of your other comments that you were young and a student, so I'm going to assume your portfolio isn't all that much $, maybe 10k at best perhaps, not sure. IF you are in the low 5 figures or below, I think shaving off some of your alt positions would make sense. \- First, I'd consider getting rid of Bonk lol. I literally had to look that up, that is just absolute trash, man, throw that into BTC, that right there would give you a very solid increase in your BTC stack. \- ETH- This isn't really that bad but to be honest massive moves compared to BTC aren't very likely. Right now ETH is trading at .025 to it's BTC pairing and in the 2021 bull market it peaked at around .085. You might see this get back to .06 or something like that, but I could see a case for flipping that into BTC. However, it's a very solid alt and at this price point I would just let it ride. \- Sol and Link- I could also see just letting these ride as well, as these are both solid. If I was you, I think flipping the Bonk into BTC and leaving everything else would be a great move. However, if you wanted to continue to accumulate while we are in a bear market consider just stacking BTC from here on out. It sounds like your portfolio probably isn't worth all that much, so you could easily make a difference by picking up side hustles, etc.
>couldn't care less what BTC price is at. Except when you want to actually sell right? Or are you one of those people who will never sell? (which makes no sense to me)
Wait till you hear about BTC's security budget in 2 halvings from now... talk about concerning tokenomics...
What cold wallet do you use? Are you not afraid of backdoor or fail in security like ledger ? I got 0.3 BTC on binance and aim for 1 for this bear market. Starting to feel anxious !
BTC still holding better than expected though, alts are getting absolutely destroyed right now
IF you were heavy in BTC, this really hasn't been all that bad, but those holding alts besides ETH are getting absolutely destroyed right now lol.
Bro, most of the people complaining on here are probably noobs to the space that got absolutely wrecked OR they are just trolls that hate on this market. What we are seeing right now is a very rare event in the crypto space. 2022 was NOTHING compared to this. This is comparable to the COVID crash of March 2020 and you could also argue the 10/10 crash last year, where alts got destroyed but then rebounded rapidly. BTC is still honestly pretty tame, but the alts are wild as hell right now. This will eventually find some sort of floor/support and stabilize from there. BTC hasn't even set a new low either btw, back in early February it wicked into the high 50k region. There's a strong possibility this could actually be the bottom, but it could also drop further as well. Either way, buying when BTC is around the 200 week moving average is always a solid move. This is the equivalent of buying BTC around 20k in the 2nd half of 2022 or at 3.5-4k way back in late 2018. This doesn't happen very often, but there's a good chance we linger around her over the next few months.
I think a lot of people assume the end goal is Bitcoin replaces all fiat, but realistically it may end up being more of a parallel system than a complete replacement. Governments are unlikely to give up control of national currencies anytime soon, and most people still want a unit of account that feels stable for everyday spending. What seems more plausible to me is BTC continuing to grow as a store of value and settlement layer over decades. Whether we're alive to see a world where BTC is the dominant global monetary standard? Maybe, but I'd put that in the possible, not predictable category. The adoption curve is already taking longer than most people expected 10 years ago.
Looks like Saylor just bought back his 32 BTC, fly pelican fly!
Swings harder than BTC and it's more likely to see ATH's again, unlike than most other alts
Thanks for the info. I picture a world where i’m paying for haircuts with 0.00001 BTC or my groceries. I just don’t see it in my lifetime therefore wonder if i should continue buying or go more into stocks.
Government and banks aren't going to drop fiat like a light switch and embrace Bitcoin. But the adoption is already happening. I've been buying drinks in my favorite local bars over the past couple months paying in BTC thanks to the Square rollout. Not a light switch, but I couldn't do that at these places last year. One thought is that BTC will increase in adoption to the point where it will be seen as an equal to fiat. For example, you'll see prices for a new car in both dollars and Bitcoin. Then there will be a transition towards Bitcoin price only. Talking decades in the future... maybe even beyond that. Just a possibility.
If you lump sum bought BTC or ETH in March 2021 (over 5 years ago), you would be down. Ouch.
thank you for quoting me. This is just my subjective opinion, but yes - I think that it'll go down to around 40. No one knows for sure, and I'm not going to pretend like I'm smarter than anyone else, but I have a strong belief that BTC will bottom out around 40 or so at which point I'm going on a shopping spree.
Unless governments start to order to shut down BTC miners to save the energy for AI…
BTC is useless lol. Once the big dogs realise this it’s going to 10k
Bitcoin's like a trillion dollar market cap. And if you start buying all of it, its gonna go higher. It's not like any one person can say "I'll have all the bitcoin, please". Plus most billionaires' wealth isn't liquid cash. It's in assets, businesses, properties. They don't have a billion in the bank to go buy BTC with. Generally they're going to care more about their cash flow generating businesses and expanding those operations than the kind of "money in the piggy bank" long term savings something like bitcoin represents. And the board / investors they answer too probably wouldn't be too happy about going all in on something as perceived to be risky as bitcoin is. Plus how many of these billionaires are a product of the fiat system and likely incentivized to want the game to continue the way it is for as long as possible? The dollar can be run into the ground and it'll only benefit the Cantillionaires.
If fiat currency dies BTC sure as hell won't be the thing that replaces it
I'm so glad I just DCA, i couldn't care less what BTC price is at. Its funny how everyone is panicking
I aint selling a penny just converting to BTC, alts can not be trusted look at even the ETH chart.
Fiat isn’t worthless. $60k of it is worth 1BTC at the moment.
I timed it according to the 4 year cycle and sold all my BTC and crypto in October 2025. I’m starting to DCA BTC heavily now until November of this year for the next bull run.
It's already gone to $100,000 before. I personally think, based on previous cycles, and the fact that BTC is a more mature asset now, that the next peak will be around $300,000 to $400,000.
Yeah, with Trump out, there’s actually a much stronger chance just off that alone, but who knows. I’ll still play the game regardless. I have enough BTC, so I’m okay with it. It’s only play money for me anyway.
This is pretty normal stuff for BTC I hope it drops back to 8k
Alts can not be trusted, but timing the convertion into full BTC is hard
Yes. There is an unlimited supply of crypto. There is a limited supply of BTC. If everyone believes in BTC, then crypto prices will go up. If everyone keeps chasing the new project, they will all fail.
The hard way unfortunately, but now the convertion rate into BTC is very bad so maybe after a dead cat bounce? Idk anymore
I think everyone understands this ibut it is a meaningless statement. Everything in existence is worth 1x itself by definition. You win today’s internet statement of the bleeding obvious award. BTC is denominated in your base currency, you can’t buy anything with it, so what matters is what BTC/USD is equal to or GBP or EUR etc.
Same its a bad position, i can brother but BTC rallies first in bull runs anyway so maybe convert at this bad rate after a desd cat bounce but catch the BTC rally and get back into alts temporarily.. but that feels like making the same mistake
AI stocks have been going up past few months, BTC been going down, no shit it held better because it already has lost.
meh.. its my Vegas money. I'll let it ride, see what happens. A buddy bought BTC at $100 and retired a few years ago, I already missed the boat.. I'll risk it.
Good question.. prob BTC still for this money and future earned money in s&p and none in BTC (not the question I know)
Reaching 1.01 BTC is a huge milestone and something most people in crypto will never achieve, regardless of where the price goes next. In my experience, consistently buying over time through DCA takes a lot more discipline than making a single big purchase, and that discipline is usually what separates long term holders from everyone chasing short-term moves. Enjoy the achievement, and if you're already thinking about 2 BTC, the same consistency that got you to 1.01 will probably matter more than any market prediction along the way.
DCA is honestly the only way to go. Keep the diversity small. BTC has a proven track record. But crypto moves in cycles.
BTC is down 40% in the last year and over 50% from its high in October. How long does it need to drop before people start to see what's happening?
Same will sell all the garbage but the convertion rate now is horrible even with 60k BTC
Exactly. I want to be apart of a BTC halving and feel the euphoria of riding it up lol
I’ve been following the cycle for 7 years and I don’t care if there are diminishing returns or BTC is dying. All I care is that it has been predictable, so far. And due to predictability I can make leveraged gains on BTC proxies, in particular, MSTR.
It's half as long because they sold 32 out of their 850,000 BTC?
Convert into BTC I aint selling a penny
Bitcoin isnt sexy anymore. Stocks with dividends, stocks that are up 1000% are the new trend. BTC is old news.
You are right indeed but BTC rallies first in bull runs and the ETH chart looks very worrying, and I also consider changing my plays maybe a BTC and SOL split or BTC and ETH idk
You think when stock crash BTC won't crash harder?
You might try accepting payments in BTC and trying on the Bitcoin subs. Those guys are fanatics and looking for any use-case they can get. They might feel generous just to prove their narrative.
This year looks a lot like 2018 & 2022. Those were my biggest accumulation years. Super stressful at the time, but looking back, no regrets. In 2027-2028 BTC will smoke all time highs again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Don't! Have a look at the conversation rate of your alts into BTC! You are better off to wait for the start of the next bull run and convert when the rate is better. Now is probably the worst time to convert alt to bitcoin.
It's a whole lot more volatile than index funds, but I believe money is to be made in BTC as there will always be a need for it somewhere, somehow. It'll go back up, just patiently wait till its at a stable low.
Good on you. I wish my “young and stupid” self was interested in investing instead of other things. You have a lot of time to let things compound. But that is why it is crucial you pick high quality investments rather than risky investments. I’ve developed a very nuanced view on BTC over the years. I think it’s important and has a place. But as I read more I realized it couldn’t do what people said it would. Now there’s a distinction. What satoshi promised and what people a decade later promised are 2 very different things. There’s also the tailwind of quantum computers, etc. which made me largely exit my position in 2025. But anyways, build a solid foundation of good quality companies/etfs, then worry about risky investments.
Bitcoin finally truly succeeds when it is so mundane, most people dont even acknowledge it. People who understand know how unique BTC is. The truth does not require you to believe it, to be the truth.
Am there, am doing that. Everything has retraced since 3 years. This is my 10% willing to lose in crypto. Maybe BTC would’ve been the answer… that’s hindsight
Why should I invest in AI stocks and 10x my money when I can buy BTC and hope it doubles in 4 years?
Thank you for your input but I only trust BTC and maybe LINK to be honest.. even ETH the chart looks like nothing man and SOL is based on meme coin trading and can collaps once that fades, and quantum computing update will slow it down and probably cause network outages again
Honestly, I dont know what’s going to happen, I DCA every day and am luckily in a position where if BTC went to zero it would basically have zero impact on my life. I’m just here to see what happens
I've overall had a very good return on BTC over the past decade, so if it comprehend flops tomorrow I'm still way, way ahead. I've bought a house, my lovely dog, and an engagement ring all with BTC earnings, so it's been a very positive thing for me. Granted, it took years to get to that point, but that's true if almost any asset. I'll be buying the whole way down and I'll be happy to do it
Yolo into BTC you mean? Thanks for input
Maybe repost without all cap.s I agree with your sentiment though. BTC is down 3% today and Eth is down 9.3%..... ecen Zcash is down 9.5% Why is eth doing as bad as Zcash?
Take a loan out and buy some! 1 BTC = 1 BTC Fiat is worthless
All I know is BTC is well below 100k Dollarydoos again! xD
i did this a couple years ago and just DCA with BTC and I couldn't be happier about the decision
1 BTC = 1 BTC Few understand this
Every cycle creates new BTC maxis. Welcome to the club. Do it.
I wait for 1k to buy one BTC symbolically. It may then drop further, idc
Guy, stop valuing BTC with FIAT. FIAT is absolutely valueless except for the ability to be exchanged for goods and services. When the FIAT/Banking system / capital markets collapses, we will be treated like Kings 👑 as we stroll into shops with our USB thumb drives and purchase a lambo or mansion or whatever. If you know, you know guy, so start buying and HODL, please, please start buying.
People out here panicking, I’m just waiting for BTC to drop below 35k so I can buy again
you're literally consolidating blue chips into BTC at the alt coin near bottom. After -65% why would it matter if you just road it out. You invested in these alt's for a reason, nothing fundamentally has changed with them since then.
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Hey man, idk if you heard but the economy is a casino and the AI stock slot machines are printing atm so all the dumb money is following. BTC being one of the more speculative assets on the market is naturally going to bleed as AI prints. Also BTC sell off usually precedes broader market corrections as once again people shed speculative assets first. Don't gamble with what you can't lose, consider every dollar invested as spent, and only invest in what you have conviction in. Everything else is noise.
Crypto isn't over. But most of the projects currently on existence are over. Plenty of headwinds. People have to realize that crypto is just software + adoption (and hardware + energy for PoW chains). If any of the large powerful institutions wanted to actually adopt, they would just create their own chains. Why would they build on ETH or SOL or XRP? The crypto side is easily replicable but influence, power and capital are not. They hold the cards. BTC being the exception because it's a hedge on central bank money printing, serves no other purpose and if they can figure out quantum migration, BIP-110 doesn't tear the community apart, and they figure out the security budget issue coming in 6-8 years, it should be ok. That's A LOT to get right and even then it's still not as good as investing in the economically productive assets. I say this as a BTC maxi.
Yes, long term it should rely on selling some bitcoin if new sales and the MSTR stock itself can't take carry the full burden of the dividend liabilities. The idea is you are trading upside in BTC for steady 11.5% dividends. Strategy buys bitcoin with your money and then uses the general upside return on BTC to fund dividend payments. I believe Michael Saylor said in a presentation earlier this year that they modeled many scenarios I think around a 20% ARR BTC bear case through 2030 was the worst case scenario and they would still be fine and then some. STRC is current trading for around $92, so now should be a great time to get in, unless you think the whole thing will collapse.
Look, we can argue about the math all day, but BTC is a reliable shield against global inflation—assuming you don't let the daily news cycle dictate your emotions. I’ve been unironically using the free Bitcoin Rainbow Wave indicator for a year now to decide when to stack sats or surrender to fiat. Call it pseudoscience if you want, but it’s actually a pretty fascinating tool to follow.
The retail interest in Crypto is extremely low nowadays. Alt coin market is completely destroyed at this point. Even ETH didnt moon this last “cycle”. BTC pumped because of institutions, not retail. Retail as dumb as it is, wants NOTHING to do with crypto. Deadass you do a pole right now about crypto in 20 biggest cities in USA or Europe and vast majority of them will be negative towards it. Right now, retail investor footprint in Crypto is tiny, nothing like it used to be. Its all institutions and ppl know it. When BTC was pumping hard last year, the wast majority of alt coins were flat. Because its only institutions trying to capitalize on the digital gold. Saylor with micro strategy are biggest BTC holders and they are so deep into shit right now that they cant even buy more btc.
So do you agree that Bitcoin is inferior to traditional capital where you have protections in case someone steals it? If I can share my IBKR account but not my BTC amount, for fear of theft, BTC has an existential problem.
A lot of talk here about asset class capital rotation into AI, how exciting or boring BTC is. Again, I want to stress please get involved and talk about the important things fundamental to the chain itself. Noderunning, upcoming BIP-110 soft/hard fork, and quantum migration. Yes the supply is limited to 21m, but there are unlimited chains. Yes, SHA256 is quantum resistant but ECDSA is mot. Yes, spam on chain could become an issue and there aren't enough economic transactions to crowd out cheap spam. These are all real issues and if the owners of BTC just want the number to go up... boy we're gonna be in for a rough ride. Please spend your BTC. Make bets w your friends in BTC. Send/receive your BTC! Accept BTC for selling things!
A few understand 😎 1 BTC = 1 Steaming pile of shit *Whoops* i meant 1 BTC = 1 BTC
Yeah I remember when BTC first crossed the $1k barrier. When it got up to $1500-ish, I remember thinking to myself "well, this is maxed out now, no more room to grow". Even if you had said $5k in 2015, you would get laughed at.
BTC held very well today compared to all the AI stocks
A lot of investors and investment firms are rotating out of crypto and into AI stocks. Better risk/reward ratio and easier to justify the move to shareholders as they're tangible businesses with easy to sell real world use cases. The people that move the BTC price aren't regular individuals like us hodling or panic selling, it's the billion dollar corporations justifying to shareholders why they're holding bitcoin as their risk asset instead of NVDA or speculating on AI start ups. They don't have the 10+ year HODL horizon that we do, just 3 monthly profit/loss statements where questions are asked why you're holding a position in that black rock etf that is down 50% from when you bought it.