BTC

Then-Detective-2509

Yeah, there are probably way better options honestly. I have a 401k that is pretty healthy from work, so I am investing in that front but I need to probably align best with what I am looking for for pocket change investment. Just jumped into a small BTC daily to maybe train myself to get into something easily consistent and no strings attached

Then-Detective-2509

I guess I wasn't sure what to really get into. I've been on the sidelines for years just watching. BTC $6/day seemed the right entry. And yeah i think my overall goal would be something like retaining my own invested capital + maybe some growth

Numerous_Ruin_4947

You might want to review the BTC.D chart. It's on track to repeat what happened in 2017 and 2021. haha! [https://www.tradingview.com/x/kSLOYUJq/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/kSLOYUJq/)

boeingnotgoing

All I'm suggesting is that there are different schools of thought on this. If you are convinced, as many of us are, that btc's current value is infinitesimal compared to what it will be in future, you would go all-in. I don't DCA in btc, but I bought heavily all at once when it was a lot cheaper and therefore my average cost (and my % gain) is far better than the vast majority of those who DCA. I view stocks differently, rightly or wrongly. BTC is far closer to Gold than stocks. I don't DCA into gold either. But stocks, sure. It's the difference between a store of value vs a profit generating asset that is meant to innovate. Not that one is right, and one is wrong. Just that there is no correct answer, is my pov.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Since you are only buying BTC why even mention crypto? You do realize most TVL, DEFI, and stablecoins are on Ethereum, right? Ethereum is crypto. Bitcoin is a Pet Rock Meme. Just say: Not even being ironic- would this be the general time to consider getting into ~~crypto~~ Bitcoin Pet Rock?

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Bitcoin has been relentlessly shilled for years; Ethereum hasn’t. That’s starting to change. ETH is only now beginning to be marketed as a true number-go-up asset, with Tom Lee arguably the first mainstream figure to push that narrative seriously - aside from crypto influencers during the 2021 cycle. Bitcoin dominance is once again showing signs of breaking down, similar to 2017 and 2021. At roughly 6 ETH per 1 BTC, Bitcoin is trading at a massive premium relative to Ethereum. We have a clear picture of how Ethereum will be secured a decade from now. Bitcoin’s long-term security, however, is far less certain as block rewards continue to halve and AI datacenters compete for the same energy resources that mining depends on. These are just a few of the advantages - and narratives - Bitcoin has enjoyed for years. Ethereum’s turn hasn’t even really begun yet. **Bitcoin $1M+ Price “Predictions” (aka nonstop shilling):** * **Anthony Pompliano:** *“Bitcoin Will Go to $1 Million Within Months”* [https://cointelegraph.com/news/anthony-pompliano-bitcoin-1-million](https://cointelegraph.com/news/anthony-pompliano-bitcoin-1-million) * **Cathie Wood (ARK Invest):** *Bitcoin could reach $1–1.5M by 2030* [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cathie-wood-confirms-1-million-203740643.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cathie-wood-confirms-1-million-203740643.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * **Brian Armstrong (Coinbase CEO):** *Bitcoin could hit $1M by 2030* [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-says-bitcoin-could-hit-1-million.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-says-bitcoin-could-hit-1-million.html) * **Arthur Hayes (BitMEX):** *Bitcoin to $1M driven by liquidity injections* [https://cryptoslate.com/arthur-hayes-bitcoin-1-million/](https://cryptoslate.com/arthur-hayes-bitcoin-1-million/) * **Michael Saylor:** *Bitcoin going to $13M by 2045* [https://cointelegraph.com/news/michael-saylor-bitcoin-price-13-million](https://cointelegraph.com/news/michael-saylor-bitcoin-price-13-million) * **Greg Foss:** *Bitcoin at $2M is plausible* [https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/02/07/why-bitcoin-could-hit-2-million-greg-foss/](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/02/07/why-bitcoin-could-hit-2-million-greg-foss/)

Illustrious-Boss9356

If all the BTC sits in ETFs and in MSTR wallets, what transaction fees are there?

Witty_Course4373

Something big coming called the BTC CORRECTION PHASE likely to sink the coin to $$37k

IronSpine8008

So many alts will be around. Memes will still be sucking liquidity. It will be Bitcoin and Memes and the networks that the memes are made on. BTC, ETH, Sol, and memes. Maybe XRP. It surprised us all, right? Aero also seems to hold up well. Everything else is kind of a joke.

GinormousHippo458

If you plan to sell in the next 5 years, even for 500k BTC, NO. Please shitcoin instead.

Old_Shop_2601

How do you think fractional lend of gold, silver, etc works today? Besides, there will be a repo market for BTC, needless to say that a repoed BTC can be repoed that can be repoed that can be repoed, etc. Welcome to the real financial world where everything can be fractional

turbulentFireStarter

Everyone talking about the BTC price. I’m just impressed he has the same haircut, monitor, mouse, tv stand, and apparently house

Known_Click

Just BTC, forget about all the others. Idk why people recommending ETH, it has been stuck in the same range for almost 6 years now.

qmaik

I like BTC I also like this coin that is attempting to flip the stock market

watch-nerd

Only for BTC and ETH. The entire market structure is changing and will change. Most of the existing alt coins have no PMF for the world to come.

Master_Chen

1. Redefining "Strategic" for the 21st Century You argue BTC isn't strategic because "they don't need it" to buy commodities like oil. This is a narrow, 20th-century view of strategy. • Neutral Settlement: In a world of increasing geopolitical sanctions (like the freezing of Russia's USD reserves), a neutral, non-state asset becomes highly strategic. It isn't about buying oil today; it’s about having a "Plan B" asset that no foreign government can freeze or devalue. • Digital Gold: If gold is considered a strategic reserve asset for Central Banks despite not being a "currency" used for daily trade, Bitcoin fits the same logic as a "digital gold" with better portability and transparency. 2. The "Fee Market" Fallacy You claim a fee market hasn't developed. This is arguably factually incorrect depending on how you look at the data. • Layer 2 Evolution: The goal of Bitcoin isn't to have everyone buy coffee on the main chain. As more activity moves to the Lightning Network or Liquid, the main chain becomes a "settlement layer" for high-value transactions. • Ordinal/Inscription Impact: Recent years have seen massive spikes in fee revenue due to new use cases (like Ordinals). This proved that when demand for block space increases, the market is willing to pay significant fees, providing a blueprint for future security. 3. Security is Relative, Not Absolute You suggests Bitcoin needs a specific dollar amount (e.g., $30M/day) to be "secure." • Hashrate Efficiency: Security isn't just about the dollar cost of electricity; it’s about the cost to attack the network. As mining hardware becomes more efficient and decentralized, the "moat" around Bitcoin grows even if the block subsidy drops. • Self-Correction: The difficulty adjustment is a built-in stabilizer. If some miners drop off because it’s not profitable, the difficulty drops, making it profitable again for the remaining miners. The network scales its security needs to its economic value. 4. The "16 Years" Argument The author uses the "sixteen years in" line to suggest failure. In the world of monetary history, 16 years is a blink of an eye. • Lindy Effect: The longer an idea or technology survives, the longer it is likely to survive in the future. Bitcoin has survived 16 years of 80% crashes, government bans, and technical forks. Its continued existence is the strongest argument for its long-term viability.

Then-Detective-2509

Thanks. I would be looking to just get in on DCA and have it sit long term. Price dips in BTC would be ideal as I do feel confident that the $100k mark is something that is here to stay long term, so not scared or planning to sell. The actual plan would be to just stay consistent for the next 5 years or so with small DCA

PermissionPlusFour

All the big players are buying, governments are buying, so yes, it's a great time to get into crypto, although limit it to BTC and ETH. Just DCA over the next few weeks. Don't listen to the clowns here who will try and sell some 4 year cycle theory, or will try and scare you into waiting.

Then-Detective-2509

Thanks bro. Yeah, I would be looking to get in for anywhere between $5-$10/day DCA into BTC and maybe teensy amount of ETH or AI coins I honestly had no idea BTC fell so hard until i checked perplexity finance randomly. had a gut feeling it might be my calling today?

DBRiMatt

I would say yes. If someone started buying BTC/ETH now; they'd be getting in at under 90k/3k Will prices get lower? Probably But with DCA, you can average down. I'd be very confident, when prices start going back up again, BTC/ETH will reach over 100k/4k, and that's a super conservative projection.

No-Buy-1819

Sharks are 100-1,000 BTC holder; Whales are 10,000 BTC holders

ishouldworkatm

It’s worded badly, but it’s only BTC/USD that hit ATH, and it’s because of the denominator

FreshMistletoe

Don't exchange wallets have like 100,000 BTC not 100 to 1000? https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

Swieter

Time in the market beats timing the market. Just buy. Hold. Don’t over think it. Earn more fiat. Buy more BTC. Repeat.

No-Buy-1819

Let me cut the shit off: Since 2019, the amount of whales (100-1K x BTC holders) is negatively correlated with the price of Bitcoin. While before 2019, the amount of whales was going up as BTC price goes up. It shows that: Whales believe BTC's rapid growth phase has concluded in 2019, they have transitioned from accelerated accumulation to a phase of balancing asset allocation based on price fluctuations.

inShambles3749

So many words to say the simple, quiet truth out loud that there is no cycle and never was. Women have a cycle, BTC has a cycle. A cycle has a very clear definition. The bullshit TA astrologists made up and people believed is utter bullshit. But everyone gobbled it up like Gollum his fish. Anyway those people won't learn nor accept it.

Far_Session_3599

Eu acredito! Tem muita coisa à favor dessa alta... Cortes de juros do FED, fim do QT e inicio do QE, liquidação histórica de 19U$bi naquela sexta-feira 22/11, além de que 30% da oferta de BTC já está no controle das grandes instituições. Bitcoin já deixou de ser puramente especulação e virou fundamento, é proteção, descentralização. Não faz sentido o preço cair por agora, só se os EUA entrar numa recessão no próximo ano. E mesmo assim se cair, o BTC faria fundo no máximo em 60k, OPORTUNIDADE! No longo prazo eu sou comprador hehe

anymonero

Monero is up 50% since 10/10. Meanwhile BTC and ETH are still way down.

AppointmentDry9660

I just want one whole BTC And I swear I'll stop

brainoverflowed

do you buy both MSTR and BTC? is it okay to buy only MSTR?

cointon

How does the IRS define “economic substance”? If I saw BTC going down and sold at 90k, then thought it would bounce so I bought back in, but then it dropped to 80k and panic sold but bought back in again because I didn’t want to sell the bottom, could the IRS disallow the 10k loss to offset any gains?

thistimelineisweird

And Ripple can only release 1% per month max from escrow but never does. Your point just reinforces that BTC is even more centralized, by someone less trustworthy I might add, and most people dont do literally any research before commenting on Reddit. So, yeah, come back to me when Ripple's escrow release causes the price to dump. Saylor selling would be far worse.  Also, where is Satoshi and his mythical OG wallet? Oh, trust me bro it'll never sell? Ok.

Enkaybee

Please don't invest based on this. The narrative being spun is "tHe WhAlEs ArE bUyInG!!" but those those wallets with holdings between 100 and 1000 BTC are largely wallets used by exchanges when people transfer coins in before they sell. I'm not making a claim about either a large dump or a large pump, or nothing at all. What I'm saying is that this charge does not indicate anything useful.

Kie_ra

lmao up 340% in 20 years BTC did that last 5Y, and that's after the recent dip

fulorange

BTC is hella slow compared to stocks. Just look at Carvana, up almost 9000% in 3 years…

PatMu5tard

Next BTC move gonna determine if we get a Santa rally or not. Hope everyone was a good boy/girl this year

aksinya_sidorova

First off, props for starting early and taking the time to learn. Weekly DCA into BTC is honestly a solid way to build discipline while you’re still figuring things out. If you’re interested in expanding beyond Bitcoin, I’d think in categories, not just “what coin to buy next”: 1) Bitcoin as the core BTC is still the foundation of this space for most people. Many long-term investors treat it like digital gold and keep it as their main position while experimenting elsewhere with smaller amounts. 2) A bit of higher-risk crypto exposure (small %) If you’re curious, you can learn about smart-contract platforms (ETH, SOL, SEI, etc.), but keep these positions small while you’re learning. Volatility is real, and lessons are cheaper with smaller size. 3) Tokenized stocks / RWAs Tokenized stocks are interesting because they let you get exposure to companies like NVDA or TSLA while staying in the crypto ecosystem. Platforms like BingX support this kind of product, and they behave very differently from BTC, which can help with diversification. That said, access and rules depend on the platform and your age, so for now it’s totally fine to just study how they work and maybe paper-trade or track them. 4) Invest in knowledge At 17, your biggest edge isn’t capital—it’s time. Learning how markets work, how cycles play out, and how risk management works will pay off way more than chasing short-term gains. Keep DCA’ing, keep asking questions, don’t rush into leverage, and don’t feel like you need to own everything at once. You’re already ahead of most people just by starting now.

Scary-Reference-7109

I understand you don’t want but starting something like you need to trust your heart, because investing in BTC you need to be sure you want to do it. I know it’s a good thing to investing in and you can try it young man

santosojv

If you only intend to withdraw in the long term, you can buy every week or every month; in 20 years it won't make a difference since you don't understand anything. If you can already analyze charts, you can look for better buying points. BTC LIBERATES

Ok-Mathematician2300

Not a fan boy , dip in and out so not clued up that much . Chat gpt chose kas as a risk but one that could very easily go my way , fuck knows but i bit into it incase. Plus sui , that motherfucker on sale right now. Also just being boring and keep adding to BTC no matter what each month.

Strange_Two_1417

What is your average BTC price? This matters in how I would approach this tough decision.

ColdTherapy1357

The MSTRs and MetaPlanets of the world will continue to scoop up BTC no matter the price. With most BTC held by retail, there is only so much Corps, ETFs, Nation-states can do to prop up the price (for now). Retail is no longer buying and the ETFs are bleeding out right now. With that said, a major correction probably plays into their hands anyways, allowing them to scoop more up for even cheaper.

PrettyLawfulness6863

Good job!! Another 0.9 BTC to go. Let s go!!

Prior_Parsley3960

The difference here (vs Tornado) is that they actively courted/solicited criminals - encouraged them to use the platform. This ranged from the generic mixing to sanctioned countries. Auto summary incoming: \>The founders actively promoted Samourai Wallet to criminal users. Hill marketed the service on a darknet forum as ideal for "cleaning dirty BTC," and Rodriguez encouraged hackers on Twitter to use their Whirlpool mixing service. Internal communications show Rodriguez describing the process as "money laundering for bitcoin". Marketing materials acknowledged targeting participants from "Dark/Grey Market" and "Restricted Markets," with evidence suggesting solicitation of Russian and Iranian sanctions violators. Illicit funds laundered through the service came from drug trafficking, darknet marketplaces, cyber-intrusions, frauds, and other criminal activities.  ...so it's hard to feign ignorance/proclaim innocence when you are actively advertising the activities

PeopleNose

Love me some takis ^(and BTC of course)

MountKrypt

IMO we haven't actually been in a bull run throughout 2025. Almost ALL tokens are actually down this year. BTC did hit new all-time highs but its been more locked in a range for the entire year than a true upward trend. The consensus was that 2025 was going to be a repeat of 2021. Whenever you have everyone agreeing on what the market's going to do, that's a sign they're probably all wrong. When market sentiment gets real bearish and EVERYONE expects 2026 to be a repeat of 2022 (down only), then we'll see the true bull run begin. That's my prediction (take with a grain of salt).

rankinrez

quantum computers are nowhere near. BTC is in major trouble though. Everyone else can just upgrade in time.

Illustrious-Boss9356

This is an awful argument. Centralized systems can beat quantum much easier than Bitcoin. For example, the money system can move to cash only. Boom, quantum defeated. Bitcoin's decentralization be a disadvantage. However, I will say it's likely we'll see somewhat more centralized chains like ETH make quantum resistent EIPs before BTC does. That's when you'll see the BTC community (hopefully) rally behind a quantum-res update.

Kontrav3rsi

This isn’t an airport, mate. You don’t have to announce your departures. No one cares, most especially me. You’re a clown, if you’d bought 500 bucks of XRP instead of BTC you’d have: BTC $500 ~$94,345 XRP $500 ~$148,462 Numbers talk, bullshit walks.

_Jimmy_Rustler

This sub is all ETH/BTC maxis. Follow your instincts, mate.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

AI data centers are now competing directly with Bitcoin mining for power. China’s mining shutdown wasn’t ideological - it was strategic, reallocating energy toward AI in its race with the U.S. Meanwhile, Bitcoin’s security budget is on a permanent downward trajectory. Miners are paid 50% less BTC every four years, and transaction fee revenue has also effectively halved over time. At some point, the question of whether Bitcoin can remain sufficiently secure becomes unavoidable. And no, citing “difficulty adjustment” doesn’t solve this - it simply lowers the cost of attack. You cannot protect a potentially $10 trillion asset with a $10 billion security budget. That mismatch is fundamental, and very few people are thinking it through.

_Jimmy_Rustler

>Didn't the experts said the same exact stuff about this year? Yes and they were absolutely correct. BTC hit ATH just 10 weeks ago.

Blade_Runner_69

The best educational books for me are, The Bitcoin standard by Saifedean ammous (this is essential reading! The BTC grail if you will!!) Broken money - Lynn Alden Not strictly a bitcoin book a fantastic read to better understand money in general Mastering Bitcoin - Andreas Antonopoulos Probably the most technical, but definitely worth a read The Blocksize war - Johnathan Beir A great book about the famous Blocksize war and a glimpse into the culture Bitcoin Billionaires - Ben Mezrich. the person who wrote Bitcoin Billionaires is the same author (Ben Mezrich) whose earlier book The Accidental Billioners was the basis for The Social Network (a great movie!) A more laid back book but an awesome read imho! Enjoy 😎

InvestmentSorry6393

I knew I was right to put all my savings into a diversified portfolio consisting of BTC, MSTR, and MSTU. 33% each, with a 1% Trump coin hedge

44_Blocks

Exactly right. Bitcoiners want adoption it they are often pretty self righteous and annoying about it. Look I am a hodler but the community can be really shit. Look at sailor saying things like the price you get BTC at is predicated on your IQ level. Arrogance

HSuke

No, they're different. No one controls over 50% of BTC's supply and can single-handedly cause its price to dump. People are worried about Saylor owning 3% of the supply. That's like 5% of how much XRP that Ripple owns.

HSuke

Would you buy BTC or ETH if a single entity owned over 50% of the entire supply and could dump it slowly over time? That's how much XRP Ripple owns. Every time people buy XRP, they just become more exit liquidity for Ripple.

wake5

Congrats on getting into BTC and DCAing! Before you buy anything else, learn learn learn Its wide ass world out there with a million ways to lose money and also some really solid investments but it takes a little time to see through the noise

grayjacanda

I have seen a graph of accumulation for larger wallets ('Sharks', 100-1K BTC I believe) that suggested this bear phase may be cut short Basically, they tend to buy 3-6 months \*before\* the rally ... or at least that has been the case But recently they spiked My general thought is that we may have another month or two of pain but I think it isn't going to be the 364 days (...til next October) that certain other charts would predict

mikehamp

I agree on the capital control benefit of BTC , but that's only in a doomsday scenario.. otherwise a money market fund is as close to a guaranteed yield you can get and it goes up with rates and inflation. I have never lost to Inflation by holding a usd fiat money market fund. it always matches CPI in fact the last few years it has exceeded CPI. it really makes the debasement argument fall away..only doomsday or cataclysmic shocks would qualify to favour BTC and even that is getting more and more rare.

OutlandishnessLimp25

Long term BTC is great. HODL

Latter-Leader1008

But it's BTC 😎🔥

kievminer

This video is about everything that BTC stands against. Centralized storage, not your keys not your gold! Little intricate value, gold is highly overbought and is a bubble that will burst. I am not against investing in rare earth metals, not at all. But look at the different in growth between gold and silver for example, historically both had similar gains and losses each year, gold price is soaring while silver is staying behind, yet silver has many more uses in industries and more than 50% is being used in industries. Gold, \~10%. Singapore, a totalitarian state, with many harsh punishments to minor "crimes" and offenses, no freedom whatsoever. Protesting in Singapore? Forget about it! Its own population is deeply depressed because they can't pay housing anymore and costs of livings has become too expensive. Of course they live fantastic lives in their bubble. That's about to burst when the world realizes it doesn't really need an expensive harbor in the far east and the banks are no longer needed because we have something completely decentralized: Bitcoin

Kontrav3rsi

Lots of misinformation here. Protip: Don’t listen to people that don’t know anything about XRP or Ripple, they are different, *Ripple* the company behind the open source crypto called XRP isn’t trying to make their stablecoin (RLUSD) the only coin out there, that’s never going to happen, and honestly they’ve stated that and it’s unrealistic. Ripple just had a banking charter tentatively approved by the OOC. Ripple has bought a number of companies in the last year, one of which was called “hidden road”, look up the company. They are using their XRPL (the ledger) to facilitate payments across different banks and stable coins. XRP is the liquidly they are going to use. Essentially they want to replace the nostro vostro accounts that banks must use for cross board payments. Imagine this: you, as a banking institution, are required to hold a certain amount of money to clear payments from aboard. Basically this is dead money. With XRP they can use that to provide that “On Demand Liquidity” (ODL) allowing them to invest or lend out that cash instead. XRP has the most successful spot ETFs this year of any ETF with 5 I believe taking in quite a bit of money, which will drive up the price, which banks want to use for liquidity purposes. To allow this XRP has to be expensive to get slippage to a minimum (under .5%). Invest in what you want, do your DD, NFA, but my guess, my gamble— as all crypto is; is that XRP will be a very boring crypto that makes a lot of people that were patient. But certainly don’t listen to the vast majority of people on XRP, 90% of them are BTC maxis that think we will take money away from them. Not the case, we do two completely different things, and they just hate because they loved the hateraid. Also, if you think Trump is only catering to those that bend the knee, which I do, look up who has given millions to his election fund. Who is likely going to be on his crypto board, who the new incoming CFTC chairwoman is and which company she worked for. Ripple is absolutely known by Trump and his family, in fact Eric Trump follows “Good Evening Crypto” an XRP centric YouTube show. That being said, there are some really large numbers out there, look up Jake Claver, he makes some very interesting claims on future price LoL, so definitely take these people with a grain of salt. But TL;DR - I would say that XRP is worth buying as long as you don’t mind boring coins that will likely take a while to get adoption and will likely move to about 12.50 or so. That’s my hope atleast, anything above that is just gravy in my opinion.

RiddleMe123

All this chart provides is that the concentration of large BTC holders is increasing relative to the overall amount of people holding BTC i.e. BTC getting more concentrated in large holders. Conversely BTC is less diverse. Can be interpreted in different ways, doesn’t mean anything “big” coming. After BOJ rises 0.25% on Friday - already priced in - and they say they will INCREASE again in the future, market will tank. If BOJ says it will HOLD steady thereafter, market won’t be so volatile. No one knows anything until then…

HarryGerpo

Buy BTC cheap and HODL it for 10 years, 5k will be enough.

MysteryMikes_org

Do you like Pokémon cards? Sealed pokemon cards. Booster boxes of Pokémon card have performed better than BTC consistently.

nugymmer

You learned to be a BTC maximalist.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; BlackRock has made significant cryptocurrency moves this week, transferring 47,463 Ethereum (ETH) worth $140 million to Coinbase Prime and adding 567 Bitcoin (BTC) worth $49.3 million. The fund now holds $78.3 billion in crypto assets, with 86% in Bitcoin and 14% in Ethereum. BlackRock is also expanding its crypto efforts by hiring for roles focused on scaling crypto ETFs and exploring new product innovations. These developments highlight BlackRock's growing interest in the cryptocurrency market. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Scrapin-Nee

You think that’s bad(it is) you should check the BTC/XAU chart.

andys811

I've been investing for over a year now into BTC, index ETFs, Gold and Silver ETCs, REITs, I'm a minimum wage warrior my portfolio is about $2,000. Any amount is good to invest, aslong as you don't think you'll need the money for AT LEAST 5 years, ideally longer

ElPeroTonteria

Ya know, if anything, this feels a lot like 08 and 2020… liquidity crunches over in the repo market. NFP shitting blood. Skyrocketing unemployment. Gub’ment refinancing debt through short term bills, no one wants long term US debt… This is, imo, the time to be scooping up as much BTC as you reasonably can… There’s 9T of debt to service next yr. QE is coming back, whoever Trump taps for Fed Chair is gonna let the USD fucking tank. Inflation be damned, it just makes him/them richer and us poorer

Bunny_Butt16

Sell your BTC then it will go up.

stereoagnostic

BTC hit 82.2k on November 21st. We've only seen higher lows since then. 84.5k on December 1st, and yesterday's dip to 85.7k.

r4ckiezzz

And how has swing trading been for you? Have you made any money? Do you think it's worth it? And I bought BTC when I was underage because a friend who isn't interested in this world owed me a favor, and I asked him to let me use his identity until I turn 18. Since he didn't mind, he said he'd lend it to me. I only use his identity for my Binance account so I can buy BTC.

EarningsPal

The lazy were spared. Too lazy to follow the directions blasted into your eyes. “Alt season!”, “at some point buy ETH with BTC”, “this list of great partnerships is going to moon these projects” The best thing to do was buy BTC and then do absolutely nothing. The only winners were those that didn’t do any research to find the “high tech” projects that sounded great. All you would find is evidence to buy something that did worse than BTC.

Not_Bound

BTC works better than Accutane.

ExploitMaster_2723

Yes, YOLO into BTC and HODL.

Potential_Giraffe870

There is only one. There are no second places. Don’t over complicate it. Consolidate your losses put it all in BTC and just DCA for the next 10-15 years

SundaeNo4552

And I love BTC like Kanye a loves Kanye

HereForTheSmug

Basic Economics doesn't cover BTC but it is a guide to life. It explains a lot of how the world works without getting too deep into economic terms and concepts. 

_Shuns

People keep on going long on leveraged trading accounts, on blackbull traders market sentiment for BTC hovers constantly around 60-70% long, with 1:100 leverage. Only when these actual fucking retards stop going long on leveraged accounts and just buy and hold like they’re supposed to, will we see actual movement upwards. It’s just too easy for market makers to crush leveraged longs.

Pretty_Photo6789

In 2021, I made one of the investments I am still most proud of, Bitcoin. When the price was around twenty eight thousand dollars, I decided to buy twenty BTC. It was not an easy call. The market was full of uncertainty and skepticism, but I believed in the long term potential more than the short term noise. A few months later, Bitcoin climbed to around sixty eight thousand dollars, putting me up over eight hundred thousand dollars on paper. What mattered most was not just the return, but the confidence it gave me in my own judgment and willingness to act when things were unclear. It really shaped how I view the crypto space today. I am curious how you see cryptocurrency 😊

Ikki_The_Phoenix

Dumb money. Dude should've stuck with BTC

Blade_Runner_69

Good man! Respect for your father is a good sign! Keep stacking and ignore the noise, if you ever need any help give me a shout I've been in this game since the start! Also research Hardware wallets and security if you want to hold BTC I have a selection of book recommendations if you want I'll send them over. 😎

Ikki_The_Phoenix

Man, I got tricked brainwashed into the tech and fundamentals bollocks too until some morning I woke up and took a look at my portfolio, the gritty and scathing reality was screaming at me. I was like. "Wtf, if this coin fundamentals are so powerful why the heck my portfolio keep dwindling as BTC ratchets up? Fuck that shit. I sold at a massive loss and bought BTC.. I only hold like 5% in some shitcoins. But I don't care if they flat-line or go to zero!!

SoftDiscipline5127

Classic hodler response lmao but yeah if AI crashes hard enough it's gonna drag everything down with it, crypto included. Nobody's gonna care about "1 BTC = 1 BTC" when they're getting margin called and need actual dollars

r4ckiezzz

I'm quite new to this and not an expert, but the only advice I can give is to invest in dollar-cost averaging (DCA) with BTC. This way you protect your money, and in the long run it will be better due to fiat currency inflation.

copyofa_

YOLO it into BTC. Wait 10 years. This is financial advice.

DigitalHierophant

You're giving lazy obvious takes without context. Crypto bag was accumulated last bear 2022/2023, rode that up. Selling at a loss only would have happened if i bought my first crypto bag in 2025. I doubt you've been in silver that long because if you did, you would know how precious metals function. even if gold "crashes" it would be to 3500. which would be a 20% drawdown. BTC cycles crash 70%. Stop pretending to be intelligent. Gold is going to 5k next year. BTC is going to 50k next year.

severact

Anyone who traded BTC for dollars three months ago was quite obviously not stupid. Just look at the Bitcoin chart.

M30MM100

Message received. BTC will hit $140,000 in March. That would be the best time to sell.

BojackAndTodd

I would never be stupid enough to buy BTC. Why would I transfer my wealth to the whales?!

MHSN_WEB333

Sorry you’re going through that. 5k is enough to get exposure, but not something to gamble with. Mixing BTC with ETFs could help you sleep better long term.

racecrack

The Fed *wishes* it goes down to $10K - that is when they'd decide to BTC reserve after all.

Nomadic8893

Super oversold on all technicals, everyone panicking, BTC still > $85K. all good, just hodl

Quixotus

BTC can't collapse any longer. It became a mainstream asset, like gold and such. This is the best bears/shorts can do. Perhaps we might see $79k but that's it, they can't push it any lower.

Designer-Rough3554

I get the Bitpanda fee frustration, those costs really add up over time. What worked better for me was separating buying from holding: I buy BTC on a low-fee EU exchange like Kraken or Bitstamp, move it to a self custody wallet like Electrum or BlueWallet and keep it there long term. If I ever need to manage or swap assets I use OpenSea by connecting my wallet directly without leaving funds on an exchange. This way you mainly pay network fees, keep full control of your Bitcoin and avoid ongoing platform markups.

r4ckiezzz

I'm no expert, and I haven't looked into mining in detail, but I don't think you can mine from a phone. If I'm not mistaken, mining involves performing multiple calculations at incredible speeds, and when those calculations are complete, you're rewarded with BTC, though currently in small amounts. Since these calculations are difficult for a phone, that's why people have mining farms or multiple devices mining simultaneously. It also consumes a lot of energy, so I don't think you can mine from a mobile device. (As I said, I'm no expert; if I'm wrong, please correct me. I'd appreciate it.)

Medium_Change4574

BTC = meme coin, Altcoins = alternative memes coins