BTC

Wheaties4brkfst

Dawg just because you need ChatGPT to understand microstrategy doesn’t mean it’s complicated. Your info is out of date anyways, they abandoned bitcoin yield as a kpi after decreasing it for multiple months in a row. Go look the website. You’re now down to BTC yield of 1.7% on the year, down from a high of 13% on 6/1. This means that if you bought MSTR at any date after that you literally own *less* bitcoin than you did previously lol.

dj_destroyer

Ehhh I made the mistake of letting "life happen" during the bear market of 2018 only to *still* be clawing my way back to that stack. I sold 2.8 BTC and might not ever reach that amount again. BTC was easy to sell and had high liquidity so I thought it made sense. But I could have easily taken out a loan or LOC or asked family to help -- anything to avoid selling that stack. Anyways, it happened again in 2022 where "life happened" but instead of selling, I found ways to deal with it without selling BTC. Greatest thing I ever did because instead of selling 1.5 BTC, now I have it and continued to stack since then. Low and behold, life happened again during this bear market but I never even once thought of selling. I'll likely never sell again if life goes well -- I can leave that up to my children to decide (but not before I teach them the lesson that life always happens).

waltotheter

Ya im a shit coiner.. uhuh.. ive mined more BTC then most people could even think about, and helped alot of people on a career path along the way.. [BTCMine]( https://imgur.com/a/2N8JEbQ )

ubermensch1001

People will be saying the same exact thing about BTC at 60k when in 2028 we are trading above 200k. This is literally the last opportunity for regular people to accumulate .1+ BTC if they are at 0. We are getting very close to the point where the masses will be left behind.

Acrobatic_News_4860

24k BTC and 15K eth is very risky portfolio

HankScorpio2020

Me: Sells 10% of my BTC to cover bills on Monday. BTC: Goes up 5% on Wednesday. Typical.

Romericano

Why are you guys so obsessed with proving BTC is a good investment? Usually people who KNOW something is a good bet, keep quiet.

Darkeyescry22

Imagine looking at the 4 year chart and thinking it makes BTC look like a good investment or currency 😂

NashDaypring1987

|**Metric**|**Bitcoin (BTC)**|**S&P 500 Index (.INX)**| |:-|:-|:-| |**Total 4-Year Return**|**+228.51%**|**+82.48%**| |**Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR)**|**34.63%**|**16.23%**| |**Underlying Value Driver**|Speculative sentiment & fixed supply|Corporate earnings & dividends| |**Maximum 4-Year Drawdown**|**\~64%** (2022 Bear Market)|**\~18%** (2022 Bear Market)| Over the last 4 years

wembenbama

Stop worrying about the price. Either price is irrelevant and you believe in BTC or you’re just gambling.

CryptKeeperCCR

That was good advice at the time because the MNAV was almost 4, but it's terrible advice long term. MSTR will almost certainly outperform bitcoin long term because of the built-in amplification. Basically, as bitcoin goes up in value, the senior claims on the balance sheet (which are in dollars) go down proportionately, which gives common share holders a larger slice of the pie. As they continue selling preferred shares to buy bitcoin, as long as bitcon's CAGR exceeds that of the cost of capital, they will always outperform bitcoin. It's simple math, and demonstrably true. The only possible way that MSTR could not outperform bitcoin is if it's MNAV drops way below 1.0, which never happens in a bull market. And even if that did happen, over enough time, MSTR would still outperform BTC.

Jorsa9_2026

BTC nunca se fue... esto es solo movimiento del precio!

ZarathustraWakes

The days of 20-30x between cycles are long gone. It's increasingly correlated with the stock market as well as institutional investment has grown. We've been in this 60k channel for 3 months, it's the lowest volatility i've ever seen in BTC

Decent_Telephone4965

At this point BTC is just speedrunning everyone’s emotions

MacMuthafukinDre

420.69 BTC

Decent_Telephone4965

You’re not stupid 😂 Basically a lot of people bet BTC would go down, price went up instead, and their positions got forced closed. That $1.4B was the market collecting their lunch money

Queasy-Ride4291

Even better, let’s do 5 years to show everyone can see BTC is negative for half a decade. 

Any_Carob3372

This was the largest short liquidation event in BTC history, $1.2BB in an hour. I sold almost all of my short term BTC holdings right at the top because 69000 and 69420 were obvious levels I targeted well ahead of time. That said, I am looking for a 65K breakout level retest for re-entry. It should be the beginning, but remember Mrs Market does the most obvious thing in the least obvious way.

JakobBowser

You'd almost have a full BTC if you dump the garbage

northernbiohacker

Desensitization lol. Plus we know this is going to be around for generations. The next big threat would be quantum computing but hopefully we can quantum proof BTC by then

One-Ad3580

BTC will be going to sub 60k again

Shaneraki

BTC📈

tony896

BTC up 5% "bear market is over" BTC down 5% "i knew it was a scam", "when will BTC go to $1M? I invested $56 and im nervous now"

tophiii

The same thing that’s making a lot of other assets look strong against the USD. It’s more a product of the dollar weakening than it is BTC strengthening. Bond buy backs are what’s driving all this today

Volgrand

Ooooh poor man! He had yo sell his BTC for huge profits bevause he had to buy a house for his family! Soooo sad! Go to [insert your favourite mythological hell here], you [insert insult here]! PS: Congrats, mate :)

Autobahn321

Recommendation - shut the fuck up, don't be a poor winner, buy and hold - shut the fuck up - best revenge is living well - so make your correct calls, ride the BTC wave to the moon, and enjoy your financial freedom - shut the fuck up

Objective-Walk6780

You’re also overly excited about potential savings. You’d save $500 on your 0.05 BTC purchase at the “bottom” if it ever comes.

dsk83

My buddy dumped BTC few days ago, said it's going nowhere per his favorite YouTuber. Felt like a bottom signal

unvac

All I did was google BTC and that’s the graph I used, I guess you should take this up with Google themselves for having weak maths skills, they need someone like you on the team

xaviemb

Even if that were true, I’m not convinced the marginal seller is coming from existing spot holders. Most people who were willing to hold through the move down to the 200WMA probably aren’t suddenly going to puke their coins because we’re \~10% above it. They all held from the move back to $82k and down to $58k that happened in May to end of June. More importantly, I think the $58–62K area has become a pretty significant structural demand zone. The last time BTC tested below \~$58K, there was roughly $15B of buying/positioning (not Strategy btw, who was actually selling that same week) that helped absorb the move and keep price from establishing materially below $60K. There are huge buyers just under $60k, and silent ones who don't' want to be known. Retail doesn't have $15B to dump into buying Bitcoin on that candle that reached just below $58k for less than an hour. My guess is that a lot of the capital sitting on the sidelines waiting for October will reassess the risk/reward if BTC is suddenly back in the low $60Ks... especially after seeing it just launch \~10% off the 200WMA. At some point, waiting for the perfect $58K entry starts looking less attractive than aggressively bidding a dip into the lower $60Ks. So I wouldn’t view $58K as some magical line in the sand. I’d view \~$58–62K as a zone where the marginal buyer could become significantly more aggressive. Much more likely this is a structural change in trend. Bitcoin is carving in a higher high on a medium term, and if it can work on $82k by year end that would signal that long trend is also now bullish. Most won't wait till that happens to jump back in. Just some thoughts (not financial advice).

JonBoy82

Post about a guy sell 10 BTC for a house he didn't want b/c he starting a family or something like that. The bottom was in right then and there.

After-Comment5086

you're just moving the BTC into another asset!

MehCheniti

😂 I can trim your BTC and make it worth more

AlexMac96

All you have to do is look at the BTC-EUR chart to know that you are 1000% wrong lol

tskillz187

Ahhh yes the investment strategy of buy and sell, at ATH, as opposed to buy and hold. You selling out your 401k at ATH in case it goes down? What if it goes up, you’d fumble the bag. It’s easy in hindsight, but I would think most BTC owners are trying to accumulate, not sell off.

L4gsp1k3

Wow and wow, so much anger. If you believe in BTC, then it doesn't matter what it is in USD, a BTC is a BTC. Or are you a speculative investor that have bought on or near the top now hoping for the value to go back so you can make easy money?

UpbeatFix7299

If you don't think BTC will be the global currency any soon and 1 BTC will be 1/21 millionth of global wealth, you aren't welcome. Nutter maxis need their safe little echo chamber.

Darkpriest667

Something I've been monitoring is the number of wallets with 10, 100, 1000, 10000 BTC.. The first 3 are shrinking. The last one is growing (More ETFs coming online), but there are lest OG Whales left to dump any BTC into the pool. This shrinks the availability. Eventually all of coinbase's (the largest holder we know of besides Satoshi) BTC available will dry up. Binance as well. Once those sources start getting scarce we're gonna see some wild price action.

PeaceAgitated1978

It's called programmable money. They control the price, they control the supply, the burning of tokens, and all that while knowing exactly how many are being created. Unless BTC who is fixed supply and POW that creates the "floor" of the power law we can see in any rainbow chart.. floor is how much does it cost for the miners to mine BTC.. base minimal case, maximum efficiency. Below that level ( 60-63k$) the miners either shut down or if they have load of budget to keep on , they mine but don't sell a single Satoshi under their cost of energy/production. Remember, most of the miners today are OG that knew BTC a while back. Basically they are whale's. 🤷🤣 Of whale's don't sell spot, supply dry up and ask keep the price from going lower. RN, we rely almost entirely on futures and perpetuals to keep pushing down. They , the shorters, have a hard time getting the spot holders to break their convictions and actually sell at some point. That cycle, spot holders are hell more stronger and prepared than the last cycles. My bet is we won't break 50k$ by a lot IF we actually reach it. Main target is 53k$ be warned. Below that, it's fire sale territory.

JonnyBigBoss

That's the point of buying BTC you dum dum.

Guest_0_

Lol one small pump and this guy crawls out of the shell crater BTC is in to pronounce it's over. 

TheCodifiedTrader

Thank you, not many are aware of the inverse relationship between the US Dollar and it's effect on commodities. When the US Dollar goes down, it takes much more physical dollars to purchase a commodity like BTC or GOLD. When US Dollar goes up, it requires less physical dollars to buy GOLD or BTC. If you're wondering why they're and most commodities are stacked against the US Dollar: The US Dollar is used as the universal baseline for measuring relative strength simply because it sits on **one side of nearly 90% of all foreign exchange transactions globally** **(FOREX).** **Cross-Currency Bridges:** If an institution wants to convert Swiss Francs (CHF) to Japanese Yen (JPY), the transaction is usually cleared by converting CHF --> USD --> JPY in the background because the dollar route has far higher liquidity than a direct CHF/JPY pair.

ParfaitQuick8426

There is no BTC CEO

ParfaitQuick8426

Who posts this every time there's a small rise or fall in BTC? This CANT be a person.

AggressiveGas4637

I do quite literally mean a money printer that big wigs and the powers that be use to devalue the dollar by printing more of it via BTC

AggressiveGas4637

I’m buying regardless just like last week, because BTC is a money printer.  And if it drops in September I’ll buy then too 

AggressiveGas4637

This will continue to happen and is why I buy BTC lol

shelby_xx88xx

**MicroStrategy’s (MSTR) financial engineering strategy is a sophisticated, highly aggressive corporate finance model. At its core, it transforms an operating enterprise software business into a leveraged Bitcoin holding and development vehicle.** **Is it complex? Yes and no.** **The fundamental concept is remarkably simple—borrow cheap money or issue stock to buy an appreciating asset. However, the execution, mechanics, and market dynamics are deeply complex, sitting at the intersection of corporate debt markets, equity derivatives, convertible bond arbitrage, and crypto-asset volatility.** **## The Core Mechanics: The Capital Markets Flywheel** **MicroStrategy operates a self-reinforcing financial loop designed to continuously accumulate Bitcoin (BTC) while increasing the amount of Bitcoin backing each share (a metric they term "Bitcoin Yield").** **Convertible Senior Notes: MSTR routinely issues large tranches of zero-coupon or low-coupon convertible bonds (often maturing in 5 to 7 years). These bonds offer investors downside protection as debt, combined with equity upside if MSTR stock outperforms. Because institutional demand for crypto-linked yield is high, MSTR has been able to borrow at very low or even zero nominal interest rates.** **At-The-Market (ATM) Equity Offerings: When MSTR stock trades at a significant premium to the net asset value (NAV) of the Bitcoin it holds, the company issues and sells new common stock into the open market.** **Asset Deployment: The cash raised from both debt and equity offerings is immediately swept onto the balance sheet to purchase spot Bitcoin.** **The Accretion Loop: Because new shares are issued at a price higher than the actual value of the underlying Bitcoin per share, the transaction is "accretive" to existing shareholders on a per-share Bitcoin basis. This theoretically drives up the intrinsic value per share, supporting the stock price and enabling the next capital raise.** **## Why the Strategy Is Complex** **While retail investors often view MSTR simply as "Bitcoin with leverage," the financial architecture behind it involves several layers of institutional complexity:** **1. The Convertible Arbitrage Ecosystem** **A massive driver of MSTR's liquidity comes from institutional hedge funds engaging in convertible arbitrage. When MSTR issues convertible notes, hedge funds buy the bonds and simultaneously short the common stock to lock in risk-free or high-yielding spreads based on the bond's embedded equity options and high implied volatility. Managing this relationship requires constant calibration of debt covenants, conversion prices, and stock liquidity.** **2. Premium to NAV Valuation Puzzle** **Valuing MSTR is notoriously difficult because traditional valuation metrics break down.** **You are combining:** **A legacy software business with modest, steady cash flows.** **A massive, volatile treasury of digital assets.** **An active capital-raising machine that dilutes equity holders while simultaneously increasing total Bitcoin per share.** **The stock frequently trades at a substantial premium to the net asset value of its Bitcoin. Understanding** ***why*** **that premium expands or contracts requires modeling market psychology, liquidity flows, and institutional access constraints (e.g., why some funds buy MSTR instead of spot ETFs).** **3. Reflexivity and Non-Linear Feedback Loops** **Popularized by George Soros, reflexivity describes situations where rising prices create fundamentals that drive prices even higher—and vice versa.** **On the upside: A rising Bitcoin price lifts MSTR stock, increases the NAV premium, allows cheaper capital raises, and fuels more Bitcoin buying.** ** ** **On the downside: If Bitcoin crashes and the stock's premium evaporates, the equity ATM mechanism closes. If the stock falls far enough, convertible holders may demand cash redemption rather than conversion, testing the company's liquidity buffers.** **## Summary of Risks** **The structural brilliance of the model in a bull market becomes its primary vulnerability in a severe, prolonged crypto bear market.** **Fixed Debt Obligations: Convertible notes carry maturity dates. If Bitcoin suffers a multi-year drawdown and the stock languishes below conversion prices, refinancing that debt or meeting obligations without liquidating Bitcoin becomes a major stress test.** **Dilution Risk: Continuous equity issuance increases share count. If the Bitcoin-per-share accretion stalls out, equity holders bear the brunt of dilution without the corresponding asset growth.** **Ultimately, MSTR has effectively weaponized traditional debt and equity capital markets to create a corporate proxy for Bitcoin, pioneering a playbook that other firms are now attempting to replicate.**

Bi-BaButzemann

BTC didn't go up. The Dollar went down.

AggressiveGas4637

I have an even simpler thesis that’s pretty much in line with yours  BTC is a money printer  Why does Trump or big wigs or whomever care about inflating the dollar when they cash out many more dollars?  They just use it to pump the country or whomevers bags and then rinse and repeat. They don’t care that you can’t get a McDouble for $1 anymore they have $3 printed from BTC. This is why I feel we will hit 1m in a decade ish. But folks don’t seem to realize that 1m will have a lot less buying power than today 

Main_Topic8668

That explains why. I was hoping to get more BTC

awscertifiedninja

Take a look at S&P Now take a look at BTC Who is back?

Hitachi22

LTC/BTC just hit a new all time low.

Organic-Specific-500

1 BTC still 1 BTC, and adoption still ahead.

Rosenant

BTC has left the range.

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

snek-jazz

> Still, during a bull market it will likely do better then BTC. Or, y'know, a day like today: btc: +1.7% mstr: +10%

Quiet-Nothing7556

If you adjust BTC for inflation from 2022 (the last "prophecy" or whatever you guys are calling it) it's presently worth $57,323.57. sToRe oF vAlUe

NegativeSky603

Yes, have enough BTC already if it goes up and also enough cash to buy more if it goes down. Happy either way.

mrhappymillennial

Don't be sad. You got a good return. BTC has been underperforming the market the last 5 years or so anyway.

lovelybittabusiness

Very true, send your BTC funds to a different wallet before touching the ecash and then get rid of that shit asap God, been many years since I heard the term replay protection 😂

hodler1992

Yes agreed 👍 😁 still smoking btw but in Germany we can grow now legally which is just amazing so my money goes into BTC instead to some questionable darknet seller 😄 have a good one bro

hodler1992

I started my studies in business informatics in 2015 and back than we used to buy BTC to order weed from the darknet 😅😅 it reached around 600€ in that time and everyone thought this is absolutely crazy and we were afraid if we don't send the BTC fast enough it could just implode and our money is gone 🙈 i was such an idiot, I should just hold it instead of smoking weed 🤣

CompetitionDouble420

Could be worse: you could've known about it back then and still dismiss it, like I did. I started my bachelors program in Software Engineering back in 2013, and one of my classmates brought it up in our Java programming class one morning; BTC was trading around ~$130 at the time 🙃 most of the class was rather dismissive of it at the time lol having ***no*** idea where it would lead. Best believe by the end of Dec. 2017, I was kicking myself in the ass...

jsands7

!remindme 1 year “This person is very confidently predicting against almost every professional analyst in the world, who was correct? Reference: BTC at $65,000, MSTR at $98”

capucineimaginaire

what's left of the bull case once the premium to BTC gets squeezed?

shelby_xx88xx

I have faith in MSTR and the leadership. They are making adjustments to some complex financial engineering they worked up. They are the largest holder of BTC. And I am confident STRC is back at par and capital flows in heavy as crypto winter comes to an end. Now is when you take the risk and make the big money. But most people are scared and just wait for the next bull run, then FOMO in. Rich get richer, poor stay poor.

SnideyM

Just found this after a little digging, copy/pasting someone's comment on another thread about a year ago: **\[Response: How Do Hard Forks Work for Cryptocurrency on a Ledger?\]** Hey [u/AnonymousReddit0r995](https://www.reddit.com/user/AnonymousReddit0r995/)! Great question about how hard forks work with ETH and BTC on your Ledger, especially since you’re a casual user wondering about long-term storage and tax implications. I’ll break it down clearly based on the latest 2025 info. #LedgerSupport # 1. How Hard Forks Work on Ledger When a cryptocurrency like ETH or BTC forks (e.g., ETH to ETH Classic in 2016, or BTC to Bitcoin Cash in 2017), it creates a new blockchain with a split from the original. If you hold these on a Ledger during a fork: * **Automatic Split**: Your Ledger stores the private keys, and the new forked coin is technically yours based on your balance at the snapshot block. However, Ledger doesn’t automatically display or manage these new coins—you need to take action. * **Ledger’s Role**: Ledger supports major coins (ETH, BTC) natively, but forked assets (e.g., BCH, ETC) require manual updates or third-party wallet integration. The device itself holds the keys; the Ledger Live app needs to be updated to recognize the fork. # 2. Do You Get the Forked Coins Automatically? No, they don’t just “appear” in your wallet. Here’s why: * **Update Required**: Ledger waits for the community or fork developers to release a compatible app or integration. For example, after the BTC/BCH fork, Ledger added BCH support in Ledger Live v1.4.0 (2017). You’d need to install the forked coin’s app (e.g., Bitcoin Cash app) via Ledger Live’s Manager. * **Claim Process**: Some forks (e.g., Bitcoin SV) require claiming via a third-party wallet (like Electron Cash) using your Ledger’s recovery phrase. This involves exporting your public address and following fork-specific instructions—check the official fork website. * **Your Case**: Since you’ve never gotten anything, it’s likely no major forks (e.g., ETH 2.0 merge wasn’t a fork) hit your holdings, or you missed the update window. Past forks like ETC or BCH had 6-12 month claim periods. # 3. Long-Term Storage Implications * **Safety**: Your coins are safe on Ledger as long as your 24-word recovery phrase is secure. Forks don’t affect the original coins unless you move them. * **Action Needed**: If a fork happens, monitor crypto news (e.g., CoinDesk, X) and Ledger’s blog (ledger.com/blog). Unclaimed forks can lose value over time—e.g., Bitcoin Gold dropped 90% post-2017. * **2025 Note**: Ledger’s latest firmware (2.5.0) improves multi-coin support, but manual claiming is still standard for forks. # 4. Tax Reporting: Have You Overlooked Fork Income? Yes, you might have, and it’s a common oversight for casual users. In many countries (e.g., US, UK): * **Taxable Event**: Receiving forked coins is considered income based on their market value at the snapshot time. For example, if BCH was $300 during the 2017 fork, that’s your taxable amount. * **Reporting**: You’d report this on your taxes (e.g., IRS Form 8949 in the US) even if unclaimed. Since you didn’t know, check past fork dates (e.g., BCH: Aug 1, 2017; ETC: Jul 20, 2016) and their values then. Consult a tax pro—tools like Koinly can help reconstruct. * **Ledger’s Stance**: They don’t notify you of tax obligations; it’s on you to track. # 5. What to Do Now * **Check Fork History**: Look up ETH/BTC forks since you bought (e.g., BCH, BSV, ETC) on blockchain explorers (blockchair.com) using your public address. * **Update Ledger Live**: Ensure you’re on the latest version (v2.58.0, 2025) and install any missing fork apps. * **Secure Your Phrase**: Test your 24-word recovery on a new device to confirm access—don’t risk losing unclaimed forks. * **Tax Prep**: Review 2016-2025 for forks and amend past returns if needed. You’re not alone in this confusion—forks can be tricky! Did you buy during a known fork period? Let’s figure it out together! #LedgerForks *Edit: Generic links as placeholders; data reflects 2025 trends. Not financial or tax advice, just guidance!* !

Elf_Maeve

insane you get hacked when BTC wallets are so hard to crack even 6 billion GPUs in every palanet in thr galaxy would still take trillions of years or more to crack one... then comes idiots cheapning out on hiring proper security developers lmao

noonkhoshki

Update, 23 days has gone since the ticket was raised, they changed the status to Processing/ Processed and closed comments No deposit has been made, they are still not releasing the BTC https://preview.redd.it/jc77jnl71ckh1.jpeg?width=968&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f090b2e47383d9014486a261914707a56d8ea16

ModernCYPH3R

I can't give a 2-sentence answer to this, and it would do you a disservice if you're actually trying to learn/understand. So bear with me as I walk you through it. I don't know your background, math, etc., so if anything is zooming past you, ask me or, as they say, 'Google it'. Yes, I teach. I've been at this for a minute (the grey beard should give that away!). This is the exact digital equivalent of **Zeno's Paradox** (where an arrow flying toward a wall always travels half the remaining distance but theoretically never hits it). Classic calculus In pure mathematics, yes, an exponential decay curve **(y=a(1−r)x*****y*****=*****a*****(1−*****r*****)*****x*****)** will stretch out to infinity and never touch absolute zero. But blockchains don't operate in the realm of pure infinite mathematics; they operate in the realm of finite computer processors. Here's exactly how protocols handle and resolve this "infinite tail" problem: 1. Integer Truncation (The Clean Math Stop) In a smart contract or blockchain ledger, coins don't exist as decimal floats. They are represented entirely as unsigned integers of their smallest atomic unit. * Bitcoin doesn't store "1.0 BTC" on-chain; it stores the integer `100,000,000` (Satoshis). * Ethereum stores Wei (`1,000,000,000,000,000,000` per Ether). When you release a percentage (e.g., 10% of the remaining supply), the computer executes integer division. Eventually, the remaining unreleased supply decays down to exactly **1 Satoshi** (the absolute smallest atomic unit). When the code tries to calculate 10% of 1 Satoshi: `1 * 0.10 = 0.10` Because computers discard fractions during integer division (known as **Integer Truncation**), `0.10` is rounded down to exactly `0`. The emission engine automatically flatlines, the remaining satoshi is locked in the treasury forever, and the block reward becomes exactly zero. Zeno’s paradox is solved by the physical limitations of bit-depth. 2. The Monero Approach: "Tail Emissions" (Permanent Subsidy) Protocol designers realize that having emission hit absolute zero is actually **bad for network security**. Once there's no block reward, miners/validators have to rely 100% on transaction fees. If transaction volume drops, miners turn off their rigs, the network's hash rate collapses, and it becomes vulnerable to a 51% security exploit. To prevent this, Monero (XMR) implements a Tail Emission. Monero's emission decayed smoothly along a percentage curve until May 2022, when the block reward hit exactly 0.6 XMR per block. Instead of letting the math decay further toward zero, Monero's smart contract hardcoded a floor: the emission stops decaying and remains at exactly 0.6 XMR per block forever. This ensures miners are permanently subsidized to secure the chain, while the inflation rate asymptotically tends toward 0% over time. 3. Hardcoded Sweep Thresholds Some protocols write a simple "sweep" conditional statement into the consensus code: **if (unreleased\_supply < THRESHOLD) { block\_reward = unreleased\_supply; }** If the remaining pool of unreleased coins drops below a certain dust threshold (e.g., 100 coins), the protocol sweeps the entire remaining balance into the very next block reward, empties the vault, and hard-stops the emission engine.

Original-Assistant-8

"If it can crack wallets, we'll have bigger problems with other systems" Thankfully there are upgrade solutions and standards, which are already being planned or implemented in critical systems. Regardless of what, when and how people think quantum threat will play out, the general consensus is the risk must be removed no matter how unlikely some believe it may be. And a wait and see approach is unacceptable. So now we have systems worldwide looking at how to migrate. Solutions that play in that space have guaranteed demand. Qanplatform has the only blockchain based tech I'm aware of offering innovation for this new market - enabling quantum-safe "designated survivor" keys to be used once Elliptic Curve Cryptography becomes obsolete in practice. Unlike holders of most coins discussing quantum risk, I don't think we need Qday panic, nor do I think it helps utilty coins if Bitcoin fails to navigate the quantum threat. I think it's best if BTC addresses this in an orderly fashion. The more people discuss now, the easier it is to gain consensus on tough decisions and hopefully make for a slow migration process.

febio1

I kinda agree with your approach. However, we all know that BTC does not only goes up. So why not saving some additional money in case of any decrease.

sylsau

Bitcoin is about to fork again. At **block 964,000**, Paul Sztorc’s eCash experiment plans to copy Bitcoin’s history, activate Drivechains, and send the network down a second path. If you control BTC before the fork, you may effectively wake up with coins on **both chains**. But that’s the easy part. The hard part begins at block **964,001**. Can eCash attract miners? Can Drivechains work under real economic pressure? Will anyone value the new coin? And can you inherit Bitcoin’s history without inheriting Bitcoin’s credibility? That’s the brutal truth about Bitcoin forks: **You can copy the code. You can copy the UTXO set. You can copy the 21-million scarcity. You cannot copy the network effect.** Bitcoin has survived this test before. Now Drivechain finally gets its turn in the arena. **The fork happens at block 964,000. The referendum starts at 964,001.**

One-Adhesiveness-138

We just need the S&P to drop 10-20% to get there. S&P goes up, BTC grinds down, S&P drops, BTC falls like a rock.

InsideTour329

What the hell is this post... Embarrassing. What idiot applies there financial decisions around information that's over a year out of date. They now have a mcap of under $40bn, and hold $60bn in BTC and USD. It's reduced in price by what, 80+% from its tops? It's a completely different financial landscape for God's sake.

iloverunning11

Hard to time this, the problem is FED is about to raise IR and that will make USD stronger and BTC will obviously keep falling down. Orange fatso seems to be happy with how much money he has stolen using crypto (instead of calling BTC a scam like he did many times in the past) and now you simply don't have that many catalysts, that's why if BTC was ever to reach a new ath it would probably be in 2028-29 not anytime soon. But this might've been the last ath (adjusted for inflation ofc)

JimmySki6166

Bitcoin is the only crypto you want to purchase! Don’t waste time, money and energy on any other crypto! BTC only if you want to be profitable.

JimmySki6166

When BTC is at 100k, you’ll wish you jumped in at mid 60’s.

cyger

The MSTR story has changed a bit since they are selling BTC to stabilize STRC. Still, during a bull market it will likely do better then BTC.

Dry-Pop-7635

The thing is that buying microstrategy stock increases the stock price and stock valuation, but does little in the way of giving then more money to buy BTC with unless theyre taking a loan out against their share value. It gives them more buying power, but doesn't necessarily reflect the value of their assets. That being said, if we were to see the supposed bull run of sept-oct 2026 like everyone is talking about, then Strategy is going to see a higher valuation, more buying power, and therefore an increase of BTC being bought. We all saw Saylor selling BTC to buy back his own company stock. Why? Because when the price bottoms out and the bull market begins proper, he wants to be holding as much stock as possible to maximise his buying power and re-invest in BTC at the low. When BTC rising - people buy stock. Sell stock for $. Buy BTC. Make BTC rise more. When BTC dipping. People sell his stock. Stock drop. sell BTC, buy stock back. It's a pretty simple scalp, but it makes total sense.

uberlap

This is misinformation. Their BTC is worth $54.17B atm, not $24B as claimed here. All debt included, the market cap is at almost 1.0x their BTC valuation at the moment.

paprick_is_the_man

Might be a good buy if it drops to 40-30$ range per share. Because of new law in my country I can no longer invest in BTC, strategy is a good alternative for me.

weiga

But assuming you do have the luck and crack it in a week or two. The moment you move it, the value of the BTC probably crashes. It’s like removing the keystone from the arch… the moment we learn it can be cracked with quantum computing, it’ll be worthless.

Substantial_Ad2185

"My biggest concern is sitting on a large cash position until October or later, only to see BTC much higher by then. " that's why you do DCA because you can also see it for 40k and you bite your fingers you didn't do DCA it removes regret, we don't gamble here or wait for it be higher or lower you do saving and it is through a plan

ALPHAETHEREUM

👏👏👏 this is the way. It goes down buy more to use, goes up dont care still using it. Almost all in Crypto saying they want to beat the system yet they buy and dream to enrich themselves in flats. Those who bought and lost, you deserve to loose all your coins. If you have kept it to use it, then 1 BTC will always be 1 BTC.

PiskAlmighty

Esp if the OP is the account of a BTC trading app...

ChasTopFollower

The idea behind crypto is good The 191615373828 project people build in the sole purpise to make money : ofc they're scam. There's a reason why BTC is still going while many other are dead

csgotraderino

The block reward was initially 50 BTC and halves every 210000 blocks. This is a geometric series that sums to 21M where half of all Bitcoin was mined in the first 210000 blocks (commonly approximated as 4 years as that many blocks are mined in 4 years with the intended 10 minutes between them on average). 50 BTC is 5 billion satoshi. One satoshi is the smallest denomination, and the Bitcoin protocol keeps track of it as an integer. After a few halvings the reward will be 9765625 sats. This is not divisible by 2, so the next reward is rounded down to a whole number.

Legitimate-Key-3044

I don’t see 100k EOY. If I were a betting man I would say we will see 50k before we see 80k again. …but Iv been around long enough to know not to short BTC. Still bullish long term though. New ATH in 2029 again.

Gangaman666

For a cat you sure seem to know a lot about BTC!

kampalt

Coinbase pro users can use their BTC as collateral to buy a house...

No-Wrap3568

I guess its completely normal to feel paranoid about protecting a seedphrase especially when it's the key to all your funds. Imo best option is to go with a hardware wallet that supports Shamir's secret sharing, nothing comes close, that is what I'm using, the device is cypher rock X1 BTC-only. It generates a seedphrase which you can see whenever you wish to but normally it keeps the seedphrase split into 5 parts in 4 cards and 1 vault. This means even if you lose upto 3 parts of the device, you will still have access to your funds, good part being no part contains the full key. Dual independent- sources for TRNG and non-custodial inheritance support. Bitkey too is a decent option, one thing that makes me not recommend is the recovery procedures, never understood it well enough.

totoin74

Since those coins are scattered to 20k plus addresses, it will be the proof needed to confirm that BTC cryptography has been cracked. From that point on, aside from some money gathered from a few early exits, you would pretty much left with nothing.

sylsau

Bitcoin is about to fork again. At **block 964,000**, Paul Sztorc’s eCash experiment plans to copy Bitcoin’s history, activate Drivechains, and send the network down a second path. If you control BTC before the fork, you may effectively wake up with coins on **both chains**. But that’s the easy part. The hard part begins at block **964,001**. Can eCash attract miners? Can Drivechains work under real economic pressure? Will anyone value the new coin? And can you inherit Bitcoin’s history without inheriting Bitcoin’s credibility? That’s the brutal truth about Bitcoin forks: **You can copy the code. You can copy the UTXO set. You can copy the 21-million scarcity. You cannot copy the network effect.** Bitcoin has survived this test before. Now Drivechain finally gets its turn in the arena. **The fork happens at block 964,000. The referendum starts at 964,001.**

hodler1992

I think I won't sale anyway. I'm here for the long-term play. I believe in BTC reaching one million one-day. I won't bother with timing tops and lows. When it's cheap I will buy more and save it all for retirement

Syrion1984

I bought BTC at $120,000, at $58,000 in the latest dip and everywhere in between. My firm belief is that BTC will go to $1,000,000 and beyond. I've employed a tried and tested strategy in which I purchase BTC at regular intervals at the current price, no matter what it might be. It's called dollar-cost-averaging and does exactly what the name implies; over time the median price you paid for your BTC averages out. That way you don't have to stress trying to find the absolute BTC bottom.

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MarioWilson122

Well, in previous runs being a holder mattered more, even outside of BTC, but who knows, now it might only really be BTC for the most part while gambling on others.

hodler1992

It's absolutely possible that we dip to $50k from here. That's what I'm waiting for and then I'll buy another 0.1 BTC