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Ok_Dish1650

BTC is now a stablecoin pegged to 70500 until the end of times

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Frog-bitcoiner

You have 8 BTC. Then Hodl  You may be able to retire in 10 years

Total_Television_942

Unlikely. But last 14 years BTC won against gold

Dazzling_Oil1500

Stack BTC is quite wise. Secondary advice try to buy in local downs and bottoms . Volatility is opportunity for you to buy low. Other rule don't put all money to it. Do diversification or you can mine Bitcoin that is also and option with good hosting. I know the best one but I am not going to do advertisements ;)

Ok-Meaning-7061

BTC historically goes below the 200W MA and slightly lower then its year prior ATH. does it every cycle.

AlbertiApop2029

I just checked my astrology charts. $52,878.70! I just hope we keep quietly plugging along until August if it's quiet, we might see $80k-$100k, imo. If it's $35,000 in July of this year, I'm emptying by bank accounts and buying BTC.

Ok-Meaning-7061

this is how you win. the hard part is knowing when to sell ....... but if you DCA into BTC its a great long term play regardless.

Pretend-Cucumber5146

I once took at a 15k loan to buy bitcoin when it was at 7k. I bought 2 BTC. Then defaulted on the loan and freaked out and sold it when it dipped. Then lost all my money to fees and short term loan interest. If i would have kept that i would have 140k now even with the dip. I feel your pain.

luforyou

These and other chats are echo chambers seeking validation on what price to enter. The reality of BTC and most “hard” assets is psychological, and often end up being group think-driven.

BlazingPalm

Totally, best wishes to all. I see BTC as a global public currency though- anyone can use it. “Bad guys” and “good guys” alike and everyone in between.

Jason_DeHoulo

1. I see I though you meant 6 months red in a red which is untrue. 2. 6 months sideways trading is nothing. Your stat is hilariously cherry picked. Zoom out to 1 year ago and it's still up 10% after this dip 3. Even if you want to keep that 6 month timeframe, SPY has still hilariously outperformed BTC

Blue_Sea699

So, do you think holding BTC for the long term makes more sense?

Dismal_Equal1739

There's truth in this. I have thought of the same thing. If you want to sell a nice car, can you charge 1 BTC for it and have any clue about what that would mean back to your business over the coming year? I'm a big bitcoin believer, but I have been trying to wrap my head around this same issue.

Purple-Dry2373

L' hai detto.. Tutto in BTC adesso

Beginning-Farm-8625

You said "stability", but I'm impressed by the fact that bitcoin has RISEN since Feb. 28, when the US started attacking Iran, while most stocks have fallen (except for oil and defence stocks, which I don't own), and also gold has fallen. BTC has risen about 6% since Feb. 28, while gold has fallen 12% to 15%. I don't like war, but it's nice to see some green when I look at Coingecko.

xxaripss

We are so ridiculously early that its fucking scary man Normies dont even realize BTC will soon be the currency of the world. Everyone will be spending using BTC only. Cash will die. FIAT will die. Michael Saylor quite simply **IS** The KING of the Universe

Icy-Way3920

For some reason, just like when the ukraine war started, Bitcoin ended up being one of the Assets many Iranians fled to when the Rial lost all its value. but Liquidity still doesnt have truly bought into the ''Gold alternative'' narrative yet. honestly, most market participants have a Dissensus when it comes to it, you have the old school BTC elite that uses it mainly for value extraction still ''Send it, Blowoff top, nuke it on top of normies'', you have the newer Blackrock-esque Wall street participants that dont really like too much volatility and are mostly the ones buying up the old school elite. when we had several of these ''Old wallets'' nuking all their supply, that was that old school BTC elite i was talkign about. they are gettign pretty much bought out since no matter how much ammo you think you have, you dont have more then Blackrock and Co. So BTC behaviour has been changing already alot and will continue to do so, until the most influential participants come to a consensus how it should be behaving, and a true unified ''Rain man'' is formed, just like in any market. its still in a war on who wins, and we all know it will be Blackrock and friends, and at that point, it will be most likely alot less volatile as it has been before. i mean it kind of is already, people are losing their shit, but we are at above 60k still, BTC was above 60k for 2 years, the 15k low was in 2022, literally 4 years ago now. before that the similar low between 2021 top and 2018's bottom was only 2 and a half years apart. It either becomes a mix of Risk Asset/Safety Haven Asset, or just a simple more volatile Gold. as of now its still doing whatever, even if we try to put a name to its current behaviour, its pretty much still a war between the old Rain man and the new forming one.

Supreme-Muffinator

The sad part is that almost everyone in this space has a version of this story. The guy who sold at $30 to pay rent. The one who lost keys to a hard drive. The one who panic sold the 2020 covid crash. The numbers are different but the feeling is identical. What makes yours particularly hard is that you made a genuinely responsible decision at the time. Student loans and reliable transport to a better job aren't irrational choices - they're exactly what a sensible 24 year old should be doing. You just happened to be holding an asset that would go on to do something nobody could guarantee it would do. The people who held through 2018 weren't necessarily smarter. A lot of them just didn't need the money badly enough to sell. Conviction is a lot easier when you're not choosing between crypto and keeping the lights on. The 0.3 BTC you clawed back matters more than it feels like it does right now. Most people never get back in at all - they just watch from the sidelines and add it to the regret pile. You're still in the game.

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AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC ESD (every single day)

Derivlens_01

The decoupling thesis sounds good until you check the derivatives data — BTC funding rates and OI are still moving in lockstep with risk-off equity selloffs, not against them. Until leveraged crypto positioning stops mirroring macro fear, it's the same trade with more volatility.

Vino1980

Getting to 1 Bitcoin is probably not possible for at least 90% of the people. I think .1 is the new 1 BTC. Bitcoin would have to drop to $50k and you could do it. Buying now is like buying when it fell from $64k to $20k. At least you're off zero, DCA, next top will be $150k.

HornetWestern5544

Promise you 2.1 BTC wouldn’t have changed your life brother. Head down keep grinding

Suguha_chan

It really surprises me how BTC behaves in this time while the stock market is down

matthegc

Same thing happened to me….some bad option plays, made me realize to stop stress trading and start saving and investing long term with BTC….been about a year and it’s the one investment that never stresses me out and I can’t wait to see how much I’ve accumulated at random times before moving to cold storage. It’s a gift to myself, is honestly how it feels.

Forbidden76

Nope because I know gold will be worth more than BTC someday..

JerseyJimmyAsheville

If you study Bitcoin, the 4 year cycle has always been at the heart of what I do since 2021. I haven’t been perfect, so a little early, so a little late, but have always profited enough to buy more. The key to Bitcoin is patience through all volatility, try to set targets…based on knowledge, and trust yourself. For example BTC currently sits 44% down from it ATH, with 6 more months of Downside risk. We are much further ahead of the normal cycles that have been down 32%-40%, so we could bounce up to 12% and be within parameters of previous cycles…but Bitcoin will dovwhat Bitcoin does. Regardless of prices, Bitcoin will hit its lows between August to November, whatever that price is…could be $80K, could be $60K, could be $40K. Bitcoin traditionally has been down 70%+ from its ATH during its previous cycles. But Bitcoin did not grow as expected this cycle, so will it only drop 50% this cycle? With 6-7 months of a known 12 month bear cycle, it appears to be on track for a 70% retracement. Just my observations and opinions of course. Good luck!

TheMuel7

My mate got talked out of buying 1000 pounds worth of BTC when it first came onto the markets. His work mate who sat next to him told him about it, he went home and told his flatmates, they told him not to do it. Not sure how many tens on millions that would be worth now… but like i say to him … you would have sold most of it when it hit $3 then the rest when it hit $10

Opethamenos

You are hitting a soft spot there. I don't want to politicize the discussion, but everything indeed is a class struggle. The more the higher earners gain from asset appreciation, the more out in the risk curve the rest need to go to find some financial hope. I disagree with your view on BTC, as privatized money can not be a tool to answer the needs of an expanding society, but do agree in its merit of being an asset that can increase in value faster than traditional means. This may be a tangent, but thanks for sharing your thoughts 😊

NurUrl

The global Macroeconomics burns and the fact that BTC is holding on at 70/69 is impressive.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Getting a hold of a lot of Yuan is not something that's easy or accessible for everybody. What would be easier for you to get a hold of and sell back: $1M in Yuan or in BTC?

Survivalist2

Uhh too complicated for me, i think i am just staying on BTC.

rsincognito

Focus on the real world and real work, Make money, take money buy BTC sent to cold storage and forget about it. Study the topic of “delayed gratification”. Live humble, be patient, you have already Won. (Well I know at least I have.”

llawenotsbcj

It appears you haven’t checked the price of BTC in about 2 months. Welcome to the show.

gravity_surf

still gonna have to fork that mf which is BAD FOR BTC. not complicated.

BlazingPalm

Great questions - the answers are all customized to your situation. I believe BTC is the future of money and we’re still early for a transition so massive. Emotions and fears can be helpful, but they should be tempered. I think DCA and HODL strategy take the emotion out of it and are super easy for most to understand and implement. But basically, the plan is to get rich slowly, but faster than traditional stocks and bonds (real estate would be great, but I can’t yet afford shit in that space). I think we all are living in a very unique time with regards to BTC and it’s quite the generational opportunity. Also, it’s unbelievable and despicable what the US “leadership” is imposing on the world and it seems like the goal is to speedrun the collapse of the dollar. I wish to my own detriment that the US dollar will last longer, but it seems to be melting at an alarming rate, just like the polar icecaps. I am grateful for an escape hatch in this misery.

k0zplay

I cant imagine how that guy feels paying 20,000 BTC for pizza

Opethamenos

Writing down targets did not work well for me, cause my targets were not met unfortunately. BTC never reached 150k for example. What I decided to do this time is to separate my portfolio in 3 sectors. * BTC Core - I never sell this, just accumulate * BTC Tradable - This can be sold * Alts - This can be sold and ideally should be $0 once bear market signals Then I assign percentages with respect to my total portfolio per market condition (say 8% for bear, 12% for base, 15% for bull). This will make sure you limit your exposure to only what you feel comfortable with AND will force you to start taking profits as the crypto assets increase in value. Once your crypto portfolio crosses your percentage threshold, you start seeling Alts, then BTC tradable.

don123xyz

If you used it, no need to cry now. The btc would have been lifesaving now and allowed you to buy houses etc. but, if you had bought houses, then in another ten years, when BTC will be generational wealth, you'd be crying about buying houses.

bbrout

The DOW is dropping while BTC is holding at about $70k give or take. Too early to tell. BTC will probably fall a bit with the DOW but then hold and recover while the DOW goes into a death spiral. And this information is strictly for entertainment purposes only. Eh.

Warrior_witha_Garden

Ok unless you’re paying in cash. The dollars in is bank account is KYC !!! What are we taking about ? Unless he’s going to buy a gift card and pay in that or cash. Good luck. Most people take some form of digital money which is 100% KYC. You break the chain on the BTC regardless

Opethamenos

I have been deciding in the moment cause my initially defined exits rarely hit. For example, I was expecting BTC to reach 150k this time to completely get out of the "tradeable" part of my crypto portfolio. This never happened so I was left with the uneasiness of having to come up with a plan in the moment when the trend started to change. I am finding that setting targets is a recipe for disaster. Looking back, it would have been better to think in terms of percentages of your total prtfolio and how much you are willing to risk at any given market condition. 8% of total in bear, start accumulating more up to 12% when things stabilize, 20% in bull and as soon as you reach the threshold, you rebalance. I am trying to build automated tools to achieve that, and I need to remind myself that it is better to shave off a bit at a time as prices go up and a lot when the market changes, since I will never perfectly buy the bottom and sell the top.

Warrior_witha_Garden

Your missing the point stables remove friction. You have to mix on the BTC side regardless. You don’t think the dollars in digital form are monitored and surveilled ? The Dollars are kyc unless your doing p2p meet ups in Cash !

Opethamenos

Thank you all. Reading through the replies, it feels like most approaches fall into a few camps (had AI summarize it for me). * Some people keep it very simple and just stick to BTC or DCA, * others rely on signals like whales or market positioning, and * some try to define rules ahead of time with checklists, limits, or preset orders. But the common thread seems to be that the real difficulty isn’t knowing what to do, it’s actually following through when things start moving. A lot of us seem to drift from the plan even if we had one initially. Things like written rules, limit orders, or checklists help, but they still rely on you being consistent and paying attention at the right time. That’s where it seems to break down. For me at least, the open question is less “what’s the plan” and more “how do you enforce it in practice?” Almost feels like you need some kind of accountability loop, otherwise your “plan” just turns into a suggestion. Curious if anyone here has found something that actually keeps them accountable over time, not just in theory.

Skepsis93

I still occasionally use litecoin to pay for things. I still see more support for BTC, LTC, and ETH in online marketplaces than I do for monero. But it's still pretty sparse overall when it comes to places accepting any crypto.

NaabKing

This is a Plus for Bitcoin, because you can verify how many are in existance (and noone found a bug to multiply/inflatw BTC in existance), you cant say the same for Monero tho.

Suprachiasmatic_Adam

I have a bit in altcoins to quell the FOMO just in case, but nothing compared to my BTC holdings. It's hard, but after watching a few cycles and seeing how it all plays out it gets easier.

DeepBlueAlpha

especially with the stock market dumping. War, oil, stocks.... still BTC stays strong.

EuroTrash_84

In 2016 had enough to buy 3BTC. Bought 0.3BTC instead because I chickened out. Buddy of mine bought 3BTC in 2016, now he's a multimillionaire.

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC ESD (every single day)

davidmthekidd

BTC always corrects 85% at the end of the bull cycle, so do the math, 127k btc minus 85%.

Opethamenos

After the last cycle, I realized my worst enemy is freezing with indecision,which was a result of not having a target to limit my exposure. When you accumulate in Bear markets and BTC and SOL are 5% of your portfolio ad you know there is upside, buying is easy. But at bull, when suddenly crypto is unhealthily 25% of your portfolio, then you should actually sell and rebalance. Holding is fine for a core position that you want to keep, but damn me if I go another cycle without risk management. And actually this time I am building tools to keep me accountable.

Galavanta

if you actually look at btc cycles it gets easier over time,altcoins have crazy swings but most just bleed out versus BTC in the end. I just track risk with the aΙphasquared score, upsize when risk is lower, and ignore the noise. Most of the best altcoin charts just look like trainwrecks after a couple cycles anyway. FOMO doesn't last when you keep seeing the same patterns.

Remyleboo99

I don’t think anyone can deny that at times like this, BTC being green (or very close to green) is phenomenal! Still at 69/70! The resilience is strong! I really think 60k was the bottom. If there is any slight pump it’ll get into the mid 70s again in no time!

Opethamenos

I completely agree but what is the plan? Just accumulate and wait? And go through the cycles with your BTC swinging from 5 to 20% of your networth? I mean there must be some risk management involved in this. When do you know you are overexposed? When do you know you allow yourself to play with alts and leverage? That's what I am trying to answer for myself.

BlazingPalm

One of the more interesting things to me about BTC investing is how boring and simple it is. You likely know the basics: DCA, don’t get overextended, don’t panic and don’t needlessly sell. It’s almost too easy and today’s retail folks have a short time preference and need for speed, so all kinds of other strategies exist. I would ignore everything except BTC and do some nibbling with leverage (max 5-8x) to get your trading rush. That’s about it. Keep it simple.

Warrior_witha_Garden

you can buy BTC directly on DEX's with USDC... Robo Sats with the lowest fees are paid in USDT and USDC. I dont think stables are great but what they do better than anything is on boarding. Sure you can export inflation via the dollar. but its a 100x easier to buy btc with a stable coin than some shitty African currency. Stable coins might extend dollar dominance but it will also be its decline, because those dollars can exit the system quickly. I am not advocating for stables. I am advocating for the cheapest spread and ease of use. He could try and use strike if its accepted. You still need to get those dollars to the person that wants them. You can try cash app or strike but many people stopped accepting because of reporting requirements. Not the biggest fan of coinbase but you can deposit the 500 to coinbase then covert to USDC. then send that USDC to anyone in the world MUCH easier than cash or ACH is all im saying. hold the stables and send to robosats and boom your done.

wancruz

BTC’s BIP 360 testnet shows quantum-resistant transactions are becoming tangible. The real edge will be with ecosystems **actively running testnets with quantum-ready tools**, preparing assets for next-generation threats.

uamdarasulka

yeah top tokens — BTC, ETH, SOL, that range. not meme stuff. i mostly watch derivatives positioning, like when $600M in longs stack on SOL while ETH gets shorted hard, that's a clearer signal than any chart. i built [swarmintellect.com](http://swarmintellect.com) to track exactly that if you wanna check it out

Rare-Distribution679

Same here… Got scammed out of 6.15 BTC (my whole stack) back in 2023. Now I’m broke! 😭

Joseluis0378

had 16 BITCOIN equivalent in shitcoins IN 2018 between Kucoin and Binance, people used to tell me to swap yo BTC I didnt listen, all went to crap, do not buy SHITCOINS JUST KING BITCOIN….

Opethamenos

Yeah, I have tried setting frequent review reminders too. I ended up ignoring them after a while as they were out of context and untimely. I am trying notifications based on daily or weekly BTC regime changes (bear, base, bull) so at least I know when to pay attention. I have found that acting on the plan is actually the hardest thing. Also, I am thinking that I would need a simulation of some sort to help me create targets. How do you set written targets? You expect something to double and sell then?

ZealousidealCarry390

Fees vary: large exchanges like binance are \~0,1-0,26% on trades, but spreads and funding methods can add extra costs. No-KYC platforms may look cheaper but carry higher counterparty risk and limited support. If your goal is simple buy/hold (BTC/ETH), platforms like CEX.​IO, etc. are easier to set up and use. Pick based on what you value more, and move funds to self-custody once your balance grows.

Arch_Lending

You can keep rolling the loan. As the price of BTC increases, the LTV gets lower.

Cevapi-Lover

I accept BTC for this bug bounty hehe

IBAN-IBON64

Switch en BTC

BenL90

Monero and DogeCoin has it's own utility, BTC also use Lightning but the privacy is still better in Monero at some point. It's still low and cheap so people keep using it to trade. If you ask about stability, it's different case, but cheap enough to transfer value, well, people use it.

vicanonymous

In short, Bitcoin's (and many other cryptos) ledger is completely transparent. That means that transactions leave a trace. This means that if a BTC has been used on the darknet, and later ends up in your wallet at some point, will merchants or exchanges now want that Bitcoin? It's unlikely.

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BaldBear_13

BTC gained and lost 10% of its value, twice, since the latest war started. It lost 25% of its value in the first week of February. It lost almost half its value since summer. That is not what most people would call "stable". It creates plenty of opportunities to profit from speculative trading (timing the market), but

TheKaotiicImpulse

BTC & XMR. It’s not a bad idea to diversify but BTC should be your main stack. If a project can genuinely show its use case and you’re intrigued, look into it but don’t take away from your BTC stack.

climbsolo1

Had planned to meet up with a guy at a coffee shop to buy 1,000 BTC for $1,000 on a USB wallet to add to some I had mined. Ended up not going as something else came up.

jessewalker2

And if accounts linked to Satoshi liquidated tomorrow? What then is the value of your BTC? Intentions matter.

matthegc

I definitely paid heavy tuition to learn that one….all in BTC now.

Opethamenos

The thing is that even BTC can drift easily. To manage risk, you need to set limits. eg. I want 20% of my portfolio to be crypto. In bull markets, this can creep up and at that point if you want to manage risk, you need to start selling/rotating/rebalancing. In bear, the same stack of sats can be well below your target.

matthegc

The dollar will always devalue…..because the government will never stop printing money….they are addicted to printing more money. BTC to USD conversion rate will always increase because of this.

jkl2035

That’s my worry - for BTC current estimations are 3-4 years for migration, I don’t want to come to a point we are too late

1stFunestist

Well crypto broes realized that sucker, American dream infected middle class is now poor and unable to hold tbe bag (that is why BTC lost so much value, no mor byers among the silly) so they found a new powerfull ally, this administration as both are unscrupulous con artists. So this administration made the US gov to hold the BTC bag for all interested, the crypto broes, the orange one and his allys and all those billioners with pocket crypto they play with. The US will hold the bag with money from tax payers. That is the plan.

Mattie_Kadlec

I mean.... You are probably right, since you are working on this yourself for so much time, but is your math based on a scenario where no changes are made to the network in the coming 10-20-30 years and nothing new gets built on top of BTC to create new demand for block space? Or did you factor in those changes as well? I'm genuinely curious and not trying to present a counter-argument

Mattie_Kadlec

Agreed. So much stuff can be built on top of BTC and create new demand we can't even project right now.

semanticweb

Best thing about proof of work is that owing BTC will not give control over the network. How elegant and thoughtful design by Satoshi.

_This_Is_Ridiculous

OP mentioned he has been in BTC since 2013. This is just an engagement bait post.

Jacks_CompleteApathy

Being honest, the goal is financial freedom regardless of whether that's USD or BTC, and it depends how old you are. I don't want to spend the rest of my good years slaving away waiting for a new world order.

n111gab00tytw3rrk

>According to Beni, the rise of inscriptions and ordinals proves that block space possesses “significant value beyond payments.” I also see this is a highly overlooked fact about block space demand. In the case of oridnals and inscriptions, a very small group of people created a product that made people willingly pay way above average fee price for block space. In the coming years I'm sure we will see different things be built on top of BTC and this should, in the long-term, create enough demand to make mining sustainable from fees alone.

ar_weth

Well, i bought 100g of weed for 6 BTC on dreammarket. I could have been rich but i decided to get high instead. Just move on with your life. You can't change the past

ArticMine

> There is always some kind of narrative that wants to make you sell your BTC for cheap I ended up selling my Bitcoin for dear in terms of Monero back in 2014 and 2015. Hindsight has demonstrated to me that this was a sound financial decision.

ArticMine

I prefer to track the actual data namely the fee in reward. This is the average fee percentage in the total block reward. Here is the data for Bitcoin, Monero and Bitcoin Cash. This data speaks volumes. 1) There is zero evidence overtime that transaction can replace the falling block rewards as claimed in the Bitcoin Whitepaper 2) The data from Bitcoin Cash and Monero shows that adaptive block sizes or large blocks do not solve this Bitcoin security security problem. I have been working on this question in Monero for well over a decade.and what the theory in Monero shows is that the fee in reward will fall or at best stay constant with an increase in adoption. We must keep in mind that in Monero there is a fixed block reward of 0.6 XMR per block. This is roughly equivalent to stopping the halving in Bitcoin at the current 3.125 BTC per block. This was added deliberately in 2014 because of very serious concerns by the Monero developers at the time, regarding this security issue. Many of the Monero developers at the time were former Bitcoin miners, 3) As for selling Bitcoin over this issue I sold out of Bitcoin for Monero back in 2014 and 2015 because of this security issue. My average cost of Monero in terms of Bitcoin is significantly **below** what it is trading at right now ~0.0049 XMR/BTC The security deficit in Bitcoin is real and I have not seen anything over the last 12 years to convince me otherwise. https://www.bitinfocharts.com/comparison/fee_to_reward-btc-xmr-bch.html#log&alltime

StaticAutomatic202

I guess you could say that Jonatan Randin was completely right here. BTC was at $74k when this came out and it's now at $70k. The fact that we didn't bounce back to the 74k levels after FOMC tells me that this was indeed a sell the news event. Even though I'm optimistic about BTC in general, the numbers aren't looking good, no matter how you look at them

Ourcrypto_news

I try to keep a small safety net outside BTC. Enough to cover emergencies, so I can sleep at night. All-in might feel bold, but it’s also a huge gamble.

Ourcrypto_news

I love this attitude. Dipping BTC just means more sats for the same money.

Ourcrypto_news

Honestly, reminding yourself that BTC is the reserve crypto makes it easier.

Ourcrypto_news

Could be a mix of priced-in factors and the natural resilience of BTC.

kawfeeman69

It's an awful large number against BTC. Lots of downward pressure. Wouldn't be bad for big boys to buy at $60k, $50k, $40k, and below. Let's see if the puts increase or decrease month over month.

Top-Care-8946

No couldn't imagine not at all :-) but anyway when all BTC is stacked up and trading needs to be done then delaying for transaction confirmations will occur. I am not expert about how much nodes must to be online for keeping BTC trading at current throughput level but if all BTC are mined then it will depends on how much holders have will to sell.

Heco1331

People dont understand that there are many reasons for this without "people betting on BTC crashing beyond 20k". The two most important ones, hedging existing portfolios, and buy relatively cheap downside gamma vs selling gamma in other strikes.

jacmusl

I'm not totally clear on how you're using your numbers here. But in order to get close to the number you propose I assume that you're buying $30,000 of BTC each year and the average value of the coin goes up by 12% per year. This you would invest $660,000 total and at the end of 22 years you would end up with 3.645 BTC which would be worth $3,518,100. This would mean BTC is worth $957,499 each. It's worth considering if you consider this number and the yearly return to be reasonable. The yearly return over the last five years: 2021: +59.67% 2022: −64.27% 2023: +155.42% 2024: +121.05% 2025: −6.34% This gives an average of 53.11% but Bitcoin is a HIGHLY volatile asset and you should never invest anything you can't afford to lose.

absurdcriminality

There is always some kind of narrative that wants to make you sell your BTC for cheap. Just don't fall for them. It's that simple

Cryptizard

But it lowers the throughput of the network by 50x because of the increased signature sizes. The entire point of BCH forking from BTC was because they wanted a larger block size and more transactions per block. Moving to post-quantum signatures brings it back down to _fewer transactions per block than BTC_. So what is the point of BCH then?

UnusualReality1177

Nobody “trusts” random coins… they just trust their chances of hitting a 10x. BTC feels slow, alts feel like a lottery ticket. Same people come back to BTC after getting rugged a couple times.