BTC

jamesnaranja90

If BTC's hard cap is removed, I would go with Monero.

PeopleNose

He sounds like a bank arguing why BTC hurts their business No thanks lmaoooo

MCL-Jonathan

For a first crypto portfolio, I’d personally make **Bitcoin the clear majority**. I’ve been through multiple cycles, makes perfect sense to have higher Bitcoin allocation, otherwise holding anything else you will round trip. Allocate something like: **70–80% BTC** **10–15% ETH** **5–10% SOL** **0% XRP / SUI for me** Why heavier Bitcoin? Because it has the strongest track record, deepest liquidity, clearest market cycle, and the lowest chance of simply disappearing versus smaller crypto assets. I’d also split BTC into two bags: **1)HODL bag** \- long-term, ideally untouched. **2) Swing bag** \- accumulate during the bear market, take profit near the next major cycle top. For ETH/SOL or any other altcoins, I’d treat them differently: **I would plan to sell most or all near the next Bitcoin cycle top and rotate profits back into BTC or cash.** And with Bitcoin still in a bear-market zone, I’d personally be buying more now through DCA rather than waiting for everything to feel bullish again. Good luck 🍀 [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

MCL-Jonathan

There’s no magic minimum. There’s also no maximum, and once you start you will find it hard to stop. What matters now is getting started asap**, especially starting now during the bear market and staying consistent, and increasing the amount you put into Bitcoin as your income grows**. $100 probably won’t change your life on its own. But $100 every month for years can become meaningful, especially if you’re buying harder during bear markets rather than chasing pumps. For most people, I’d focus less on “how much is enough?” and more on building toward milestones like **0.01 BTC, 0.1 BTC, then beyond**. [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

BoxProud4675

My theory, is they hid a lot of their loot during the great migration of BTC following wave 1 and 2. The main pool addresses were just decoys.

Icy_Giraffe_21

Use the lightning network with BTC > L - BTC > BTC > L-BTC

Fabulous-Pineapple47

They can afford to wait, and they can bribe employees at blockchain analysis firms deflag coins/break links. These firms aren't incorruptible (and some could argue that most of them have been corrupted from the start.) If governments can pay for their cooperation, so can a wealthy thief with millions to offer. Compromised employees then have their own incentive to cooperate as deflagging coins helps obfuscate the funds, which benefits anyone holding the stolen BTC. of course there are independant analysis that would still notice or catch it eventually but as long the main sources relied upon for AML by offramps/exchanges it will be easy to cash out reasonable amounts at a time.

PeaceAgitated1978

That's exactly it. You stop caring about what BTC is worth relation to $. You start seeing your net worth in BTC. And yes, you use BTC as money. Spend and replace through exchanges.. but that's just not advantaging for the early adopters.. they found their own edge. And it lies in waiting for the end of the US $ era. Before fully adopting the spend in exchanges way of life.. wait for the increase of value to stabilize for BTC.. when BTC will be mostly flat, it will be used as money. Volatility will evaporate eventually.. adoption.. slow but steady.. less people wanting to sell is actually stabilizing prices and it's a good thing for adoption. 🤷

Blade_Runner_69

Why is it always people with 1 or 2 posts ever and low karma that suddenly have their BTC taken in a cryptic manner? 🤔

ZucchiniIntrepid719

To the BTC is dead: I suppose that is why it has the largest market cap of all crypto?

TheBestintheWest11

the money will be mixed countless times over and over and sent through multiple wallets. This will keep going for a while to make it hard to trace. These eguys probably won't be cashing out via crypto but most likely in platforms that offer sports betting like Robinhood and polymarket. This acts like washing money. The BTC stolen will be allocated in new ventures to wash the money as well. Cashing out btc would be to hot.

Gears6

> a) I just wonder if the short term incentives and consequences for the decision makers didn't really align with the greater good. I don't invest into banks, as I think they're generally a slow growth business that is hard to make money off unless you're Warren Buffett. That said, in general any business that are quarter to quarter and aiming short term, I avoid like the plague when buying stocks. I don't need quarter to quarter improvements, and business is naturally choppy. They should be doing things for the long term benefit of the company and shareholders, rather their own self interest first and foremost. Their interest should align with shareholders. > b) Think that insurance is up to $100k which is nothing in terms of any business and even individuals with some cash saved. I think the government back stopped the rest. Either with tax money or by just printing more, which dilutes the supply and decreases the value of each dollar. So I think everyone pays either way. They collectively pay a certain percentage of your deposits. It's obviously a small amount of the total amount, but ultimately it is a cost that matters, eat into their profits and is at the present time sufficient to cover it as it's so rare. If it was a real problem, I'm sure they'd raise the cost or crack down. That said, I'm not a specialist and maybe others can fill more in. > c) From what I understand, payments has been overrun by middlemen taking pieces of the pie. Payment gateways, PSPs, payment processors, card networks, acquirers, issues etc. With crypto you can send money and the only middleman is the miners. So even with regulation, it doesn't necessarily mold to the current payment system. Sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it's basically free for me to send money via ACH. If you're talking about credit cards (which it sounds like it since you're talking about the payment process, card networks, etc), the cost is overall pretty small, and ultimately it provides card holder protections. The sort of thing that is problematic with crypto if something goes wrong. After all, none of those things exist with crypto. It's once, sent, it's done deal. Even the government cannot compel you to transfer it back (albeit surely not without repercussions). It's not like they can go to a bank and say, hold their assets. So it's a double edged sword. > d) Bank runs happen because banks are allowed to lend out more than their deposits. They only need to have a small fraction of deposits. And a ton is handed out as loans to other people. So when the depositors come to withdraw in bulk, the bank can't meet the demand. Regulated crypto markets don't have that problem (at least in the markets I've worked in). Assets need to be held 1:1. When it's allowed to be lent out, it has to be spelt out in black and white to customers and the customer must opt in. Also self custody means that it can't be lent out. Of course that comes with other risks. Without crypto being lent out, it's not possible to have a bank run in BTC unless the exchange is breaking the law. Bank runs can happen in fiat when banks are following the law. Sure, but the issue is that the value of BTC goes down and the cost of withdrawal goes up. So you might get something out, but how much and what will it truly be worth? Also, what happens if quantum computer breaks crypto? That mathematical guarantee no longer holds, and do you think anyone will pay you for that crypto if that were to happen? In other words, it's not really "bank run" that the "system" runs out of money, but instead your crypto money is worth essentially nil. Ultimately it's basically the same to the end user. At least with the bank going under, the government backs it up. Nobody insures crypto and there's no mechanism for the government to stop the withdrawal or whatever is going on. > When it's allowed to be lent out, it has to be spelt out in black and white to customers and the customer must opt in. Also self custody means that it can't be lent out. Of course that comes with other risks. Without crypto being lent out, it's not possible to have a bank run in BTC unless the exchange is breaking the law. Bank runs can happen in fiat when banks are following the law. Yes, but let's say you're staking to earn interest, there's a real risk your crypto could be lost. It's the very nature and intent of the system that risk is real and it's by design. It's next to impossible for you to loose money you deposit at a bank and get interest, because it's backed by the government. If you say, well I just won't stake it. Well, then you don't earn interest If you lend it, you incur direct risk from whoever is loaning that money..... > Think there's a lot that we agree on. You raised some good points. Especially the shareholder value for reckless banks. That's a decent consequence that I hadn't considered. Like you, I'm also learning and understanding so it's always good to have discussions. Some times my thoughts are wrong or didn't account for somethings so the more we talk about it, explain it, read each other responses, the better the ideas become. So thank you for having the discussion with an open mind and sharing thoughts!

DontLook_Weirdo

It's bad but it's more of a "get to work or else". Folks, Coinbase is thinking we got 3yrs before coins and their dev team are required to make them quantum resistent, per the article...it's time to really look at your bags and understand memes will be wiped out, alt coins should be stressing it and rushing to make things resistent, while the big boys like btc should remain untouched. Quantum computing can be a threat to keys, not BTC necessarily, and exchanges like Coinbase are getting ready for migration. We're headed towards The Great Crypto Wipe

JimmySki6166

33% of my portfolio and I purchase 1k every week and have been doing so for years!! BTC is the best asset you can purchase in my opt!!

VanillaLeft4792

Yeah, agreed. Laws should probably be updated in both crypto and fiat. a) I stand to be corrected but I think the bankers that created the problem walked away many times i.e. Not having to pay back bonuses and no jail time. Good point on investors though. I just wonder if the short term incentives and consequences for the decision makers didn't really align with the greater good. b) Think that insurance is up to $100k which is nothing in terms of any business and even individuals with some cash saved. I think the government back stopped the rest. Either with tax money or by just printing more, which dilutes the supply and decreases the value of each dollar. So I think everyone pays either way. c) From what I understand, payments has been overrun by middlemen taking pieces of the pie. Payment gateways, PSPs, payment processors, card networks, acquirers, issues etc. With crypto you can send money and the only middleman is the miners. So even with regulation, it doesn't necessarily mold to the current payment system. d) Bank runs happen because banks are allowed to lend out more than their deposits. They only need to have a small fraction of deposits. And a ton is handed out as loans to other people. So when the depositors come to withdraw in bulk, the bank can't meet the demand. Regulated crypto markets don't have that problem (at least in the markets I've worked in). Assets need to be held 1:1. When it's allowed to be lent out, it has to be spelt out in black and white to customers and the customer must opt in. Also self custody means that it can't be lent out. Of course that comes with other risks. Without crypto being lent out, it's not possible to have a bank run in BTC unless the exchange is breaking the law. Bank runs can happen in fiat when banks are following the law. Quantum is a bit scary but it's also scary for all cryptography (including banking and all online finance and secret data - so I think there will be big hits in both tradfi and crypto when quantum gets to a sufficient level. That's a future problem for crypto and the whole world. Think there's a lot that we agree on. You raised some good points. Especially the shareholder value for reckless banks. That's a decent consequence that I hadn't considered.

LazyTech8315

I'm with you. I can easily verify that the PDF isn't trying to make a deterministic result look random. I'm currently more comfortable with a binary conversion from an 8 die roll per word, so I'll likely go that route. I've been around long enough to have purchased Bitcoin at $14, but I still have plenty to learn and the last thing I want is to make a mistake when generating a seed. Speaking of mistake, why didn't I just buy 100 BTC back then and HODL? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

opossum_cz

Dividing BTC doesn't create any new value.

JimmySki6166

Invest in BTC monthly, you won’t regret it!! I’ve been doing so for years. Greatest asset you can purchase!!

GoldmezAddams

Idk how many times we need to see BTC yield products blow up before we learn our lesson.

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Gears6

>Yeah, I think we can all agree that self custody needs to be made easier and safer. I'm also not sure that the government stepping in and saving irresponsible banks is the best long term strategy. It's not the customers' fault so it feels right to protect them. But it's every tax pay that jumps in to fix the banks' mistake. And the people that caused the problem walk away without consequences. Then we should change the law and make effort to prosecute them. That said, there's a few things to consider here: a) Usually the investors loose money and the people that walk away, is the people that didn't have skin in the game. So the problem is often the employees trying to get their short term bonuses. Just ask yourself, if I told you, I'd risk your $10 to gain $1 tomorrow so that I can get that bonus of $0.50, would you accept? b) The banks pay into an insurance that is suppose to help with situations like that. It's not necessarily tax payers money. It's a cost of doing business by the bank. c) The very thing of audits and such is often the result of legislation and regulation. The very thing, crypto is trying to avoid. Once they become that, they've effectively become the traditional banks. With that said, even with audits, it doesn't prevent these issues like in 2008. Of course it also depends on what you mean by "audits", because banks do audits every night of their transactions. d) Imagine a "BTC" run. There's no mechanism to stop that, or revert it. There's nothing guaranteeing it. You could say, well that's unlikely, but just because we haven't seen it, doesn't mean it won't happen. Let alone other risks like Quantum computing and so on. Ultimately, I believe it's not the human "intent" that drives it. Regardless of the system we put in place. Any way we try to "fix" it, gets us closer to what we have now. It's not like bank transactions aren't technically auditable. We don't need a publicly available blockchain managed in a decentralized way to do any of that. You could argue, well any new production of "coins" is well known since it's public and that it's kind of a universal currency (that it can be). That said, nothing prevents fiat to be the same. > And I don't think the government is necessarily doing the best they could in either crypto or the tradfi world. They're definitely not, and the current administration is corrupt as F so anything they'd do is not for the greater good, but for their good.....

Suitable-Fishing1643

BTC is infinitely divisible

themindspeaks

The use case is it’s got value; you can move it from point a to point b, and there’s a large liquidity pool for Btc to usd and other fiat currencies. The fine folks over at Cash App and Block have been rolling out Square terminal and merchants that accept BTC. They can be located in Cash App BTC map. You can spend BTC over lightning at those locations. Or you can just hold it

youngWuuf

I would agree but most people are saying what you are saying, so the bottom is prob not already in, BTC also looks weak AF

ForeverInYourFavor

How's the value store component going? > as with any money, the adoption timeline is first people using it as a store of value Is it? Says who? I thought money evolved as a better way to facilitate trade. Being able to buy things rapidly is perhaps the #1 feature a currency needs in today's world. Cryptocurrency in general had promise. Perhaps has. But the environmental damage caused by mining is unforgiveable, and BTC is never going to reach mass adoption. Funny thing is that 7 years ago I could buy my lunch in London with ETH. Now no-one outside of a niche even knows what it is. Crypto is a sinking ship. I don't see any comeback from here.

RealAndroid_18

My point was to say that we also have to pay fees to move our money around using BTC and crypto. You are trying to devalue my comment due to a mistake that does not change the objective at all (we pay fees with btc) Don't be that stupid bro. [This is literally you right now](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fmemes%2Fcomments%2F185y6ho%2Fif_anyone_calls_out_my_spelling_then_you_know%2F&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCOj_34PVqJYDFQAAAAAdAAAAABA7&opi=89978449)

_RonPaulWasRight_

This part: " 3.507M BTC (16.7%) - estimated lost BTC" This is completely an estimate, we don't know if it's even remotely close. News often comes out about very old wallets coming to life and moving their BTC. Which means this entire analysis is kind of pointless.

cuteman

>https://www.milo.io/mortgage-comparison/ Shady AF incorporating the appreciation in BTC value to sidestep the fact that the BTC interest rate is HIGHER nevermind the total interest cost is almost double and the math totally falls apart if BTC does anything but go up (which as we know has been the opposite lately)

ForeverInYourFavor

Some of this is true, some of it is verging on conspiracy theory, but BTC isn't the answer. I can't even buy a coffee with it.

be_easy_1602

BTC is a liquidity sink. Historically, there are periods of monetary expansion and contraction. BTC will most likely pump to ATH’s again within the next 5-10 years as the business cycle contracts and re-expands. BTC will always be a speculative instrument as long as the network remains functionally relevant. People are greedy, and want to be in on a run up.

Bronze_Rager

Nah its not, because nothing is tied to btc. BTC is tied to everything else. You can't use btc for anything other than exchanging it for USD/Euro, gold, pokemon cards, food, or whatever. Nothing is backing btc like the government backing their currencies. btc is a non productive asset.

BirthdayAny35

Los que compraron a 120,000 por BTC ya pueden vender

MinimalGravitas

There are plenty of legitimate ways to donate to public goods onchain, but I don't think any memecoins would be included in the list. Gitcoin, Giveth and Octant are all platforms I've used in the past and continue to trust. They all work in different ways and are worth learning about from a perspective of interesting tech solutions to democratizing funding what matters, even if you don't plan on using them yourself. I don't really see why making a charitable donation through part of the fees for a memecoin makes sense, compared with just donating all that you want to give, it seems unnecessarily convoluted, and there is clearly a risk of the creator just keeping everything. Lots of people in crypto are pretty generous. Gitcoin alone has had 5 million donations, from 270,000 people through its quadratic funding rounds, totalling over $60 million. Crypto users also donated a pretty huge amount to Ukraine when Russia invaded, about $29M in ETH, almost $23M in BTC, and roughly $12M in USDT, though that was mostly direct donations rather than through any particular smart-contract platform.

RealAndroid_18

Yes, because BTC has no fees, right? LMAO Just because I called it gas fees doesn't mean that there are no fees... gas fees, transaction fees, btc fees, whatever... They do exist, right?

Gears6

> However, the transparency and decentralization nature of BTC is something modern banks will never offer. Yeah, but that centralized nature is also how it protects you as a consumer. Just look at what happened with Coldcard.

LuckySage77

Steak'n'Shake is the only burger joint that _actually_ accepts Bitcoin. This amount of BTC actually would get you a couple cheeseburgers... lol

KKevinjad

I’d be careful with yield products where you’re giving up custody. There are also newer approaches like TBVs being developed that are worth keeping an eye on if you want more BTC utility without relying on a centralized yield platform...

Xxshark888xX

Then that makes sense. In Europe we have a lot of great banks (I personally use ING) with top-notch banking apps. Instant transfers 24/7 even between different banks (thanks to a standardized protocol which I don't remember how's called), so I never felt that BTC could (at least in its current form) take over as a daily payment system. However, the transparency and decentralization nature of BTC is something modern banks will never offer.

PureCod9290

Death doesn't necessarily mean quick death. Look at the returns of any coin past 5 years. Very few winners, ETH down bad and BTC losing to inflation. It's ridiculous to think some use case is gonna emerge 15 years later. It's all just speculation that requires someone else paying more later. It's a house of cards

Gears6

I imagine that is in countries with unstable government, corruption and lack of infrastructure. I know we're in a BTC sub, but let's face it, the banking system has it's problems, but it has also been regulated and put through it's paces to solve many human errors and issues.

MinnesotaNiceTry

I mean yes, however interchange rates charge both a variable and fixed rate on each transaction. Then the card processors pile on. For example, Stripe is 2.7%+5c per transaction for card present. With BTC, as you send more, you pay less (in theory). Currently as you spend 10x your fee is 1/10.

Gears6

> Yea that stood out to me too. Paying to use a system is inevitable. At least Bitcoin fees go to the parties securing the system and programmatically determined rather than some arbitrary value funding some Executives vacation but if I pay, it's typically less than the gas fees I pay with BTC, and if there are issues I have someone I can go to. Often someone else also looked at it. I can't do that with BTC.

Cheap-Nail9326

J ai commencé a m intéresser a la finance avec le BTC. Comme dit plus haut, documentez vous sur le sujet qui est très intéressant! Regardez plusieurs articles (pour et contre le btc). Apres vous pourrez voir si ca vous intéresse…

Gears6

> Why we pay gas fees for transactions? Why you have to pay YOUR BTC to transfer YOUR BTC to YOUR ACCOUNT? Yes, and with fiat, you'd transfer for free with ACH.

scrandlle

BTC is in a weird spot. It's a speculative investment but has zero intrinsic or utilitarian value. It only has value based on popularity of speculative investment into it. Which is different than fiat, commodities, stocks, bonds and precious metals. The original vision of BTC as a decentralized currency was doomed from the start. Transactions take waaaaaaay too long and it costs too much money to make them. And even if it ever did become an actual currency, it'd have to become way more regulated and centralized which would defeat the purpose of it. So we are left with BTCs value being in the bet that people will want to continue to speculate into it into eternity. This is an extremely poor bet to make long term because BTC will die at some point. Doesn't mean you can't make money on it the next couple decades though.

Antonio_928s4

I already have .06 BTC. I’m not buying more dips. I’m waiting for Bitcoin to reach $100K to sell it all. I’m switching to QQQ, SPY & VTI instead.

Zealous03

Why don’t people just put their BTC on a USB and put it in a safety deposit box at a bank?

Traditional_Most105

In every bear period people said crypto is dead because of different reasons. What if BTC strengthening, new regulations that make scam coins fall, and a few of the top 50 alts fight for ETH position and prove to be useful? But then again it's just speculation. 15+ years and crypto still being around with people still investing in bear markets then it means there's speculation. And maybe there might be future usage also that we don't know. Or there might be another new technology in the future that replaces crypto. So again it's just speculation. So the point is nobody knows what will happen but what i see is that there's speculation. Cycles might take longer now, or even broken and something else will start happening. So in the end if you believe crypto is dead, it is dead, if not then you believe you could make profit and that's why you speculate and throw money in it... The whole post is just speculation so you can't actually prove crypto is dead as people in past bear periods couldn't prove it either... you can only prove to yourself that crypto is dead and not worth throwing your money in for a possible profit.

shaunj72143

Imagine Chuck near a BTC mine 🤯

sylsau

Someone just declared **Bitcoin at $1 million “mathematically impossible.”** The argument sounds devastating: **Bitcoin at $1M ≈ $20 trillion market cap.** Therefore, Bitcoin supposedly needs roughly **$15 trillion of new money** to get there. Except… **That’s not how markets work.** A $15T increase in market cap does **not** require $15T of cash inflows. Market cap is: **Price × Supply.** And price is determined by the **marginal Bitcoin being sold**. If available supply becomes scarce while demand accelerates, a relatively small amount of new capital can reprice the entire network dramatically higher. That’s why: → Market cap ≠ money invested → Liquidity matters more than headline supply → Dormant BTC doesn’t need to be “bought again” → ETF flows can move a trillion-dollar asset with comparatively tiny capital → A supply squeeze can create enormous nonlinear price moves **Does that mean Bitcoin WILL hit $1M by 2030?** No. It would require an extraordinary transformation in global adoption, liquidity, institutional allocation, and monetary conditions. But **“unlikely” and “mathematically impossible” are two very different claims.** Bitcoin at $1M isn't really a $15 trillion cash problem. It’s a **liquidity problem.** And if buyers ever discover that there are far fewer willing sellers than they expected… the market will do the math for us.

sylsau

Someone just declared **Bitcoin at $1 million “mathematically impossible.”** The argument sounds devastating: **Bitcoin at $1M ≈ $20 trillion market cap.** Therefore, Bitcoin supposedly needs roughly **$15 trillion of new money** to get there. Except… **That’s not how markets work.** A $15T increase in market cap does **not** require $15T of cash inflows. Market cap is: **Price × Supply.** And price is determined by the **marginal Bitcoin being sold**. If available supply becomes scarce while demand accelerates, a relatively small amount of new capital can reprice the entire network dramatically higher. That’s why: → Market cap ≠ money invested → Liquidity matters more than headline supply → Dormant BTC doesn’t need to be “bought again” → ETF flows can move a trillion-dollar asset with comparatively tiny capital → A supply squeeze can create enormous nonlinear price moves **Does that mean Bitcoin WILL hit $1M by 2030?** No. It would require an extraordinary transformation in global adoption, liquidity, institutional allocation, and monetary conditions. But **“unlikely” and “mathematically impossible” are two very different claims.** Bitcoin at $1M isn't really a $15 trillion cash problem. It’s a **liquidity problem.** And if buyers ever discover that there are far fewer willing sellers than they expected… the market will do the math for us.

Objective_Young_1384

Ironically, not much for BTC lol one little rally and it reverses easily

PureCod9290

Crypto is dead. Liquidity is concentrating in BTC as the last man standing. The latest "cycle" has showed meagre returns. 15+ years and the only real "use case" is crime or theft. If there's no utility there's only speculation and if there's less interest there is less capital...

Useful_Calendar_6274

It doesn't work for payments, takes too long. Idk if BTC cash is a real solution, is it a fork or a protocol on top? I don't even care I just know it takes too long. Without a country legalizing it and making people sign contracts that both parts will deliver it can't be used as a currency.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Why aren't satoshi's early mining efforts considered "premining? Permining is when a scammer, let's call him Vitalik, for example, creates 72,009,995 ETH in the Genesis block, before letting anyone else to compete with their hashrate. >Presumably He mined most of the first million BTC unopposed That's not true. I believe Dustin mentioned [in this podcast](https://stephanlivera.com/episode/314/) how the first node (possibly Satoshi) was waiting for another node before it started mining. And even if Satoshi wouldn't wait, there still was competition from other users. Half I believe tweeted his legendary" Running Bitcoin" about a week since the network started. So have many others. Some turned the mining off, some believed in the network or wanted to support it and kept mining. One way or another, Satoshi was competing with other users/miners, burning his energy that was more costly than the mined coins generated.

GesturalAbstraction

You seem to be new to crypto. Crypto is currently in a winter cycle, which is why token value is low. Crypto has 4.5 year cycles that coincide with BTC’s halving events. The last halving event was about two years ago, and the major run up for the crypto space usually takes place about a year afterward (last year). Following that year is a “crypto winter” which is what we’re in the middle of right now - everything slumps. If you’re smart this is a great time to start accumulating for the next bull cycle (probably about 2-3 more years). Alt coins are doing terribly and may not meaningfully recover. However BTC and ETH are still relevant - BTC as a long time store of value with programmed scarcity, and ETH network being quietly used to build the infrastructure layer for RWT. Good luck and have fun

404eol

BTC has 1.29 T market cap and is the 12th biggest asset on this world. Are you irrational or is the market irrational?

scrandlle

Wall Street could exert plenty of pressure on BTC if it decided to. It just doesn't care enough.

bigcoumbe

$10 a day. Goal to get to 0.2 BTC. That’s it. Low bar

scrandlle

Is it money if no one spends it though? BTC currently operates more like a collectable than a currency.

etaoin314

Well if they can update, and the update changes the fundamental tech, how can you be sure there will only ever be 21million BTC; couldnt't they just "update" that number...checkmate /s

Nice_Actuator1306

Funds were received into my wallet via the Lightning Network (L2 protocol), but they are not reflected and cannot be used in the Bitcoin mainnet (on‑chain). All transactions made through Lightning are recorded solely as balance updates within open payment channels and are not written to the Bitcoin blockchain until those channels are closed. As a result, I cannot: · Send the received funds to an external wallet that accepts only regular Bitcoin transactions (e.g., a cold wallet, an exchange without Lightning support, or a counterparty not connected to Lightning); · Use these funds outside the Lightning network (e.g., to pay invoices that require on‑chain confirmation). The funds legally belong to me, but technically they are locked in an open channel and are only accessible for internal Lightning operations (sending to other L2 nodes, paying via Lightning‑compatible services). To gain access to these funds on the mainnet, I need to close the channel (recording the final balance on the blockchain) or use a third‑party swap service (submarine swap) to exchange Lightning BTC for on‑chain BTC. Both options incur additional fees and time delays. Key limitations: · Funds in Lightning are considered "received" but are not an on‑chain asset until final settlement; · Closing the channel can take from 20 minutes to several hours (depending on network congestion and the channel partner's policy); · If the channel partner is offline or unresponsive, forced closure may be delayed by several days (due to timelock mechanisms). Thus, even a successfully accepted Lightning payment does not provide immediate liquidity in the Bitcoin mainnet, which creates additional difficulties for business processes that require instant on‑chain settlement.

404eol

I think you're mixing Bitcoin itself with the ecosystem that grew around it. Yes, 17 years ago Bitcoin was mostly a cypherpunk / nerd experiment. And yes, the asset has become heavily institutionalized in terms of **price exposure, custody, ETFs, exchanges, etc.** But Wall Street does not get to decide Bitcoin's consensus rules, monetary policy, code, or who is allowed to transact. They can participate in the market; they don't own the protocol. KYC is also not something Bitcoin introduced. It's the consequence of regulated exchanges integrating Bitcoin into the existing financial system. Bitcoin itself still allows P2P transactions without asking JPMorgan, Coinbase or a government for permission. That's exactly why parallel P2P markets and merchants accepting BTC can exist. And the "you need a greater fool to buy after you" argument is basically just a simplified description of market demand. Every asset needs someone willing to hold or buy it at the prevailing price. If nobody wants stocks, gold, real estate or Bitcoin anymore, their prices fall. The actual question isn't whether another "fool" will buy it. It's whether people will continue to value a scarce, globally transferable, censorship-resistant monetary asset with a fixed supply. "This works until it doesn't" applies to basically every market. And if we want to reduce economics to that level: someone also needs to be the "fool" working today to finance somebody else's pension. :D

Typical-Snow3034

Hey! Lower BTC volatility could help certain use cases, but it would not automatically send capital into altcoins. Institutions may prefer Bitcoin precisely because of its liquidity, track record, and relatively simple risk profile, which could concentrate capital rather than spread it. From the CoinRabbit side, lower volatility may reduce the frequency of collateral stress in crypto-backed lending, but it cannot remove liquidation risk. Altcoins would still need independent demand, sustainable token economics, liquidity, and actual users. Maturity in one asset does not create quality in another.

404eol

But with wrong info about the block size. It IS a problem with decentralization. If the block size gets bigger and supports 500 TPS, that would add roughly 2–4 TB to the blockchain PER YEAR, and you would need dedicated hardware for the nodes, which would have to be more powerful. So there is no possibility for the same level of decentralization, since fewer people would be able to run a full node. This was already discussed and considered bad for Bitcoin during the "Blocksize Wars." Bitcoin is good as it is now. Miner fees will become more relevant long before the year 2140 because the block reward gets smaller with every halving, but there are still many decades to see how the BTC price, fees, mining efficiency and difficulty adjustment balance this out. There is no reason to sacrifice decentralization now for a problem that can be observed and solved over time. And after the fork, the market clearly chose BTC over BCH.

dershodan

Nix arbeitet einwandfrei. Ganz besonders nicht BTC xD

brkinard

The business cycle dictates BTC price...not the halvening event. That is what the charts show.

Remarkable_Sleep_944

What the fuck is a gas fee? You just outed yourself as a charlatan, pretending you know BTC.

CryptoAnarchyst

Should have done this a while back, not at the dead bottom of the market where the ALT/BTC is at an all time low. Good luck to you

Ar0war

You know there has been many updates to BTC right? Do you believe bitcoin 15 years ago is the same as bitcoin now? Either i am understand wrong what you are implying or you don´t understand it.

derbyfan1

It could be sold p2p or you can purchase a wide range of giftcards - most of which require no KYC at all - You would be amazed how many things you can purchase with your BTC. There are also a few companies that accept BTC in certain countries, thats where adoption comes in to it. There are a lot more uses for Btc other than illicit use.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

Depends on what you want to achieve with this knowledge. Do you want to financialy capitalize on it or do you just want to understand it? The most important fundamental is how BTC works/the BTC whitepaper imho.

satysat

I’d sell all my shit to buy BTC, not sell my BTC.

AdOk1101

BTC long term trading trends clearly indicate stalling growth, and not because of current market.  Thats not even the thing that concerns me about BTC.  The thing that actually concerns me is how many people have put all their eggs in the BTC basket up until now.  Corporations are not going to do business over BTC due to clear and obvious technical limitstions....due to BTCs lack of robust network protocol features.

georgejetsonn

Maybe all those were real issues in 2008 when BTC was created, but today most everyday banking is digital, and many transactions can be completed almost instantly

magicmulder

So I can pay quickly with BTC everywhere? So I can get credit approved with BTC? What exactly is this promoting?

AdOk1101

Moving everything to BTC doesnt solve the problem you think its solving.  BTCs days are numbered due to its lack of contemporary technical features.

iKarma_com

This ad would have been great before the banking industry incorporated all the innovations that BTC pioneered. B+ for effort and a D- for timing.

AdOk1101

Most, almost all, so called "alt coins" are no more technologically robust then BTC.  Crypto currencies are not litteral money.  They are network protocols that enable capabities.

Far-Department-4196

Not once was I ever referring to Fiat. Nor do I ever want it to be used like Fiat. If you think BTC was created for you to stack and chill till you die with it, I think you’re greatly mistaken.

Iapetus404

>When the block reward gets small enough the price of BTC will be much higher...so even a few hundred Satoshi will be worth much more. Even when the last BTC is mined......miners will get paid by transactions fees.

FallenDeathWarrior

Are they as valuable as BTC?

Xxshark888xX

I'm all pro for bitcoin, but this video is clearly not a true depiction of reality. I never had to wait for a transfer, today internet banking app are much quicker than bitcoin and easier to use (money can be sent and received 24/), this is the big difference between BTC and a banking system, BTC => slower and mining fees, even when sending to own address. N.B: I live in Europe, maybe in the USA the banking system is slower and worse?

Mammoth-Charge

For sure. If I was just going to self custody BTC then that makes sense. That said, I am interested in generating some yield on the asset and understand generally the risks of DeFi protocols, so I'm just looking for a sensible way to invest the assets for the long term.

No-Librarian9605

Been in it since 2015, and will be til I die. Fiat is a corrupt system used by the controllers. BTC is the only truly sovereign decentralized money/hope for the future. Plan accordingly.

RealAndroid_18

The idea here is cool, but it doesn't work that way. Why we pay gas fees for transactions? Why you have to pay YOUR BTC to transfer YOUR BTC to YOUR ACCOUNT? It has a reason, and so does the question asked in the video. Cool video idea thought.

trooftooth

What exactly would have to happen for BTC to 2x-3x? Would that amount of fiat being poured signal a world in collapse? How would you buy a coca cola with your btc, either today or in this post apocalyptic world where you’re a millionaire from your gamble? If making a small purchase is expensive or prohibitive, how can BTC see the mass adoption required for any real multiplier from its current price? I think the technology is awesome and bulletproof, but these questions bother me.

thegodpopper

Just move it all into BTC

BuiltToSpinback

Same. Then swapped the rest of my ETH for BTC a while back, too

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Longjumping-Link-455

It's 15% of my total porofilio. I have my Roth IRA and 457, emergency fund and a taxable brokerage. My 15% allocation isn't on purpose. I just calculated it out to figure out bc I didn't actually know. I started buying around 2019 and slowly increased my DCA when possible. BTC is my satellite, after my bills and other investments are funded. I do my DCA and what every is extra. If anything is over my checking threshold after bills and expenses, I carry over to BTC.

iamimproved

I am holding SOL longterm, I don't really have much ALT Coins that i believe in. I strongly believe in Solana because I interact a lot with defi protocols and RWAs on the solana blockchain and spend my crypto in real life. So I can already see that it's the future of ALT coin based on it's utility. A part from that, I am all in on BTC.

mj_callen

why wouldn't you just use the BTC as collateral for a loan? it's the bottom of a bear market. idk strange decision imo

Tai9ch

The technical design is nice. The political / social design is broken. It turns out that when you have a bunch of people doing stuff in a coordinated way that's a political coordination problem and the basic premise that you can avoid that with the structure that BTC provides has been falsified.

Sir_Renity_Now

• 1.008M BTC (4.8%) - yet to be mined How old are these numbers bro

quintavious_danilo

I switched from 100% VOO to 100% BTC during this bear market and keep buying regularly. Opportunity is too good to let it slip away.

thatsadmotherfucker

I'm waiting on BTC below 60k. I know it will come, just gotta wait a little longer

Slajso

Just google basic questions such as "What is Blockchain?", "How does BTC transaction work", and go from there. Also, Rule #1: Do **not** answer DM's. It's all a Scam, and especially when it doesn't seem like it.

Elf_Maeve

one company owns 840k BTC? Bitcoin living up to its promise of being a decentralized currency for everyone lmao

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I don't know if there's even enough interest and fuel left for a fakeout to $76K. I really thought we had the legs for $70K when BTC was heading towards $67K, back when the market had a lot of tail wind. It was having a nice bounce back. Had real momentum. Plus we had fuel from the Iran peace deal looking like it could be finalized, markets were pumping like crazy, it looked like rate cuts could still be on the table, plus the news was talking about the Clarity Act being set to pass. But now we have none of that, and we have Saylor selling more and more BTC.