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SlowArtPlanet

$40k and chasing max upside? I’d keep it simple. BTC and ETH should still be the core because liquidity flows there first when market wakes up. Then rotate smaller size into high beta names with real attention, not random ghosts. SOL, TON, HYPE, maybe AVAX if momentum returns. Privacy coins can pump hard but narrative comes and goes fast. XRP moves mostly on headlines. Biggest mistake is overdiversifying into 10 bags that do nothing. Better 4 to 5 strong plays with dry powder ready. In this market patience prints more than spraying entries everywhere.

Nomadictionnn

A mature take glad people are finally moving away from the whole “best exchange” mindset. At the end of the day, it’s just buy and hold BTC, guys.

RandomPlayerCSGO

I'd say limit crypto to only BTC and some monero and diversify also into stocks and gold and silver, my portfolio is 1/3 stocks 1/3 gold and silver and 1/3 BTC and Monero

Ge_Yo

Interesting mix. If you’re open to expanding strategy, BTC does not have to just sit idle. There are BTCFi protocols that let you stake natively while keeping control of your assets.

Ge_Yo

10BTC for me

trincaooo

Diversifying across coins won’t necessarily protect you ، most of the market still follows BTC. What worked better for me was combining holding with short-term trading on high-liquidity coins, using clear entries and strict risk management instead of just hoping for upside. If you’re interested, I share how I approach trades and manage risk ، might give you a different perspective.

Goldenbeardyman

If you use bitcoin you can end up with tainted coins even if it's not your fault. You could unknowingly transfer your BTC to an exchange and have it seized. Monero (XMR) is the better choice for actual anonymity and no way to know if it's ever been "tainted".

ElegantlyArched

He deserves it. Sweet guy & treatment cost drained almost everything.. He was smart though -- took his money and ran when BTC hit 100. 👏👏

Mindless_Bicycle5091

Cold Storage. If you must trade, limit it to no more than 5-10% of your BTC on an exchange at any time. if you lose that money, do NOT fund more trading from the core BTC position.

Ge_Yo

That makes sense. Long-term conviction matters more than short-term noise. Looking forward to the TBV launch soon and how it expands BTC utility in practice.

AdPrudent3964

I opened a long as well around 77,500 and got stop loss at around 77,300 or something lol. Saw the price hit 77,600 levels but i only do one BTC trade per day.

Arijan101

These 5 players hold approximately 4.2 M BTC that's 20% of the total supply. Let's say the current (circulating) supply is arround 20M, that means these 4 players are closer to holding 25%. When you add the total number of BTC considered to be permanently lost (between 2.3 and 4M BTC, we'll go with a lower estimate of 3M, then you can quickly conclude that the real percentage held by only 5 entities is closer to 35-40%. So yeah, my point stands.

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IBAN-IBON64

Pas assez de BTC . 50% BTC 30% ETH et le reste SOL XRP ADA etc... TAO ??

Innovator-X

The bitcoin supply is currently not maxed out. Max is 21,000,000 BTC. 

DangerHighVoltage111

> The “future of money” right here. Make sure you wait 10 minutes to be sure you actually spent it! Well, the good solution got slandered and spread by people like diradder 🤷‍♂️ The hijackers made sure nobody would even look at the solution. 0-conf is totally fine for every day values. Nobody is going to risks money for double spending them. Here is a p2p BTC Maxis talking about 0-conf safety: https://imgur.com/a/zhFwqvD

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CheeseLordMan

Calling it 'childish' is a great way to avoid the actual point: That your 'well-established market' is now just a TradFi playground where 90% of the tokens have zero utility and are bleeding out against BTC. If you think Goldman Sachs rebalancing their portfolio at 9:30 AM is "progress" for crypto, then you're the one playing in a casino—you just haven't realized the house changed the rules while you were dreaming of a moon mission :) . Vegas is honest about the odds tho. This market pretends it’s a revolution while acting like a debt trap. Which one is more childish, mate ?

Hikiko_Mori

It is called all-time high for a reason. If 29k wasn't the highest price attained since its inception then it shouldn't be called as such. In fact even 48k, the highest price attained that year, shouldn't be called ATH either because BTC already went as high as 69k on November 2021, so that should be the ATH as of 2023. Just call it a local high if that level acted as a major resistance for some time. Man, I can't believe I am feeding an AI with terminology and stuff. Might as well work on those data annotation jobs lol.

mss413

Nice - $BTC and $PEP best coins to own. $PEP does have 1000x potential.

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b1mm3rl1f3

I had been analyzing ETH and concluded that Monday is likely to pump, right before I came across this post. The bottom is officially in and most are still in the disbelief phase. “It’s totally over” calls while BTC pushes to $78k with a 4th consecutive positive weekly close

SpontaneousDream

It's different this time. I've been here since 2014. Prior bear markets still had *many* people commenting, speculating, etc. Pretty much all of those people are gone now and/or broke. Anyone who managed to time the top has sold. Many more have sold the bottom at a huge loss, knowing their coins won't recover. Look at any altcoin/btc chart. It tells the whole story. Unless you've hodled BTC, or managed to time the top perfectly on some alts, then you're probably rekt. That's why no one is here. There's only 1-2 other coins outside of BTC that have actual bid.

LetWaltCook

And it gets worse, soon everything electronic will be on chain. Your car, your lights your water. All taxable and trackable every minute of every day. You will have zero privacy. But BTC go to right?

Banker_dog

Cardano news on this sub usually results in 1. Mods removing it 2. Community not reading it and directing hate at Charles 3. Downvoting because it isn’t ETH or BTC Cardano remains to most resilient blockchain, true to the fundamentals of crypto, that most people hate on this sub for no other reason that it’s popular to hate on it.

RedKe

I don't look at it often but the Bitcoin rainbow chart is great to get perspective on expected price ranges of BTC. Also as a general bear or bull market indicator.

Few_Main7228

BTC and electricity generation is the future

Medium_Change4574

The comments will be back once BTC does a historic 2x and alts a parabolic 3x recovery (only to then dump 90%)

karnyboy

of course it will bottom out, I am investing in BTC now regularily. /s

ljungbergsghost

And the 2009 technology of BTC structure means its processing of transactions is ridiculously slow. 1000x slower than even VISA. It was never designed to buy a candy bar at the store. And it never will be. Its technology is hopelessly out dated.

CheeseLordMan

The 'locking down of off-ramps' isn't just a side effect, it's the end of the road for mass adoption. If you can't move your BTC into the real economy without a digital DNA sample, then it stays a speculative asset for a shrinking circle of believers. A currency that can't be spent at a grocery store isn't circumventing the economy—it's being exiled from it.

CheeseLordMan

Non-KYC BTC in 2026? Good luck spending it without getting flagged by every 'compliant' off-ramp or merchant. The moment you try to turn that into real-world goods, the surveillance AI links it to your identity anyway. We're past the point where 'hiding' works. The exit doors are locked.

CheeseLordMan

Exactly, 'fragmented volatility' is a perfect way to describe it. The chaos is still there, it's just happening in the shadows of the L2s and alt-pairs while BTC looks stable on the surface. Great analysis.

CheeseLordMan

True, BTC is the only real 'set and forget' play left. Everything else feels like a full-time job of monitoring discord servers and bridge status updates. I guess the real 'edge' in 2026 is just having the patience to stay away from the noise. Cheers for the discussion.

InvestaHepps

I don’t think it’s killing volatility… it’s just changing where it shows up BTC definitely feels more “absorbed” now, especially with ETF flows acting like a constant bid, but underneath that the market hasn’t really become smoother… it’s just more uneven Instead of everything moving together like 2021, it’s more like: - majors get steady capital - alts fight for whatever liquidity actually rotates So the volatility didn’t disappear, it just fragmented - which is why it feels slower at the top but still chaotic underneath I think that’s also why a lot of people feel like the cycle is “missing something”… it’s not lack of opportunity, it’s just not broad anymore…

LiquidityCompass

Sitting is only risky if you’re sitting in random L2s and farm coins. Holding BTC in cold storage is basically the lowest tech risk in this space. Everything else is the risk. edge didn’t change… people just stopped separating signal from noise.

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

To be fair, LTC had the longest uninterrupted uptime in history, even longer than BTC's.

ted_cruzs_micr0pen15

It’s just the big players using BTC etherium, tether and other stable coins to rob you blind like they use the punk sheets to do the same. You’re just doing the 80’s all over again, and regular people didn’t win then either.

CheeseLordMan

Comparing BTC to Nvidia is wild, but you have a point. BTC is becoming the 'boomer coin' of crypto. But do you think Equities have the same 24/7 liquidity and permissionless nature? That's the only reason I'm still here.

PMmeuroneweirdtrick

Agreed. BTC is now less volatile than tesla or nvidia. I don't see the point in owning BTC anymore when you can make faster money in equities.

CheeseLordMan

I get the macro concerns, but isn't crypto the only 'miracle' we have left? If the global economy is burning, maybe that’s exactly why people will eventually flee to BTC, even if it feels like a thin ice right now.

retracement

I've noticed that EXACTLY every 18 months my arse cheeks become more saggy with old age. This does not align with the BTC halvings. Do what you want with that information.

sagesofthe4th_world

Nah. You kiddin? BTC would be at a million by now. It's bc the US president is burning the global economy to the ground. Not like he's trying to hide it. Assuming WW3 doesn't happen in the next few years then I do believe we will recover and have a glorious bull. Doesn't mean a bull market is impossible. Maybe a miracle? Or something unforeseen? But for now, it's treading on thin ice.

LiquidityCompass

Volatility didn’t die, it just moved. BTC is maturing, so less chaos at the top… but more pain in alts. Institutions don’t kill cycles, they just front-run them.

Savings_Somewhere681

$2.12 billion in 9 days while BTC is still 35% below its October high. That's the number that matters more than the streak itself. These aren't people buying momentum they're buying the dip through regulated vehicles and holding. The April 17 spike ($663M in a single day) happened right when Hormuz tensions peaked. Institutions didn't panic sell into geopolitical chaos they bought harder. That's a completely different investor profile than what drove the 2021 cycle. InvestaHepps makes a good point below though flows are consistent but participation isn't broadening yet. $58B cumulative but concentrated in a few funds. IBIT keeps absorbing while Fidelity and ARK are flat or bleeding. The conviction is real but it's not evenly distributed. When it spreads beyond BlackRock into the rest of the ETF market, that's when the "institutional adoption" narrative actually delivers

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Objective-Choice6518

Use lots of non-kyc exchanges and keep changing the blockchain before sending It to the next one until you finally send BTC to your wallet  Then check your address on Arkham to see If there's no trace

Obtusk22

Ja so buying fees and withdrawal fees are two different battles hey. For buying I mostly use Binance, spot fees 0.1% and if you hold BNB it drops lower, hard to beat that. Withdrawal is where they get you though, BTC withdrawal on Binance costs like 0.0005 BTC which adds up quick on smaller amounts. Bitmex withdrawal fees been cheaper for me personally, moved BTC out last month and it was noticeably less. Kraken is also sharp on withdrawals if you doing EUR/USD. My advice, compare the withdrawal fee on the specific coin you're moving not just the trading fee, thats where most people get caught out eish.

Herbie2607

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daisyhoa

This is a good question, and it's something I'm also wondering about. These top indicators you mentioned haven't reached the euphoric levels of the previous cycle, yet some bottom indicators are giving quite strong signals. I think this cycle is different because of the money flow from institutions and ETFs. Besides holding BTC/ETH, I'm diversifying a small portion into launchpads to capture alpha from early projects. Legion is something I've been using quite a lot lately because of its transparent system and access top-tier vetted projects.

Impossible-Magician

“Tainted” BTC transactions can be left out of blocks, making it hard to spend.

inadyttap

When $80k BTC?

cyberspace-_-

"BTC on exchange" isnt your BTC, just numbers on the screen.

ThereIsNoGovernance

>Complete garbage Agreed: the petro-dollar is complete garbage: the primary reason we continue to destroy the environment using flatulent internal combustion engines. Strangely, however, BTC maxies think consuming equally huge amounts of energy is OK, cuz its (somewhat) green \[note the solar panels and wind turbines powering them zappy minin' machines\]. Here is a clue: bitcoin miners consuming that much electricity are taking from the total pool of energy which is largely supplied by fossil fuels. So, as green as they may think they are, they are still massively contributing to both the inevitable energy crisis and the destruction of the environment. One also needs to wonder how much evidence supports the claim that those millions of USDT were in the possession of the Iranians. And, furthermore, what gives any government the right to freeze another sovereignty's assets? If my wife breaks up with me, is she then entitled to freeze my bank account?

Decibel0753

Just because the bank is blocking payments doesn't mean that BTC is banned. Is it the only bank in your country?

Rare_Rich6713

This is a really solid write-up especially the part about where the collateral actually sits. Most people don’t follow that thread all the way through, they just look at rates and LTV. The Aave example is kinda wild too because it shows something important, nothing broke, but the system still ate bad collateral and now there’s a hole. That’s a different kind of risk than most people think about. The private bank route makes sense if you’re in that tier. You’re basically paying for clarity and legal protection instead of trying to optimize every %. Only thing I’d add is there’s a newer angle people are starting to look at like BTC-backed staking, and eventually lending, like Babylon is working toward. It’s interesting because it avoids a lot of the issues you mentioned. BTC stays on Bitcoin, no wrapping, no handing it over to someone else. You’re not posting it as collateral in the usual sense, more like using it as backing through cryptography.

kobriks

Yet BTC is still underperforming S&P500 in the recent upswing 💀 Just imagine what happens after if it dumps. We're back to 50k in not time

Hikiko_Mori

And this my friends is one of the reasons to not rely on AI for information gathering. The bot mentioned 29k as ATH in 2023 when in fact 48k is the highest price BTC was able to get to that year. Seriously, get your facts straight AI!

HydraVault

I'd suggest looking at known crypto currency exchanges like coinbase or Ledger, I'm in Australia so Coinspot and BTC Markets are the go to places for purchasing as they allow bank transfers to the accounts.in those exchanges and just purchase crypto using the deposited funds. Or, if available in your country, you can use BTC ATMs that allows you to use hard cash to purchase crypto, providing its a supported crypto with that vendor.

setec404

i see BTC atms in bosnia https://shitcoins.club/en/bitcoin-atm-locations

King-esckay

I needed cash for my business I used BTC as collateral and borrowed what I needed Each month the interest amount on the loan I buy that amount of BTC When I comes time to repay the loan hopefully I can do that for less than the amount I borrowed.

FunWithSkooma

how would that even work? I will load my seedphrase on eCash software, send it and they will also send my BTC too wtf?

redf0rward

Why are people putting that much into stable coins? Thats just foolish. I can see it if youre planning on buying BTC or converting FROM a stable TO BTC but...to just have it sit there and that much? I just dont get it.

Automatic_Wrap_9614

Good morning, thanks for getting in touch, but unfortunately, Swami, I would like to have the same answer as you, but this does not only apply to BTC, although BTC is an excellent thing, but this is a little more concerning, this mining has its downsides.

i99990xe

It's true that BTC can't be frozen at the protocol level like USDT or USDC. However, its addresses still get blacklisted by OFAC. If you interact with them, your wallet gets "tainted" and you'll trigger risk controls at any major exchange. While hopping to privacy coins like XMR or ZEC can break the on-chain tracking, their liquidity pools are way too small. Institutional-sized money just can't enter or exit without massive slippage.

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Independent-Funny342

Interesting mechanic tbh, but the big thing to keep in mind is the “yield” still just comes from other traders paying that 4% tax. If volume slows down, rewards dry up, so it’s not really passive income in the same way, it’s more a redistribution game that works best while hype is active. That’s why some people separate strategies: if you want to speculate, meme coins like this are fine to play with, but for actual passive income they lean toward CeFi platforms like CoinDepo where BTC yields are fixed and generated through lending and structured strategies instead of trading taxes. Personally I’d treat something like $FIRE as a small, high-risk position and keep most of the portfolio in cold storage or earning steadier yield rather than relying on sustained meme volume.

west_coast_ghost

These guys are some small quant prop shop in the UK.. their magical algorithm must have flashed buy lol.. I wonder if it took into the account of the fact that BlackRock just bought about 10X more BTC than their whole firm has under management. Combined that with MicroStrategy and these guys are nothing.

west_coast_ghost

If I was ever gonna use Polymarket, it would be to bet against Satoshi ever moving his coins.. this is not financial advice, but that seems like really good odds lol. Considering Hal was the one with the private keys to the second part to a multi-sig wallet that was shared by himself and probably Sass, which prevented neither one of them to be able to access without the others consent. That BTC is lost forever.

ScholarPlayful3421

You could maybe join a sportsbook that uses cash and crypto and then deposit cash into the sportsbook and swap it for crypto. I’m not sure if that’s an even possible but I feel like I’ve done that before but if your country doesn’t allow bitcoin they probably don’t allow sportsbooks either. You could try private sale maybe if you know anyone in another country that you trust, you could send them money to buy BTC and then they can send it to your wallet

anymonero

If you make a transaction on eCash, other people can basically copy (replay) that transaction onto Bitcoin without needing your approval. For example, if you send your new eCash coins to an exchange, it's likely that the exchange will also receive your BTC. There's ways to prevent this, but you have to know exactly what you're doing.

Accomplished-Eye5567

The people saying P2P are way behind (that’s like a 2018 method of trading) You can do a ZEC swap with no KYC using something like LeoDex which has done over $1.3M in BTC to ZEC swaps today alone 1. Go to something like LeoDex (or a different app if you prefer) 2. Set input to BTC (or whatever crypto you have) 3. Quote a swap to ZEC by putting it in the output 4. If you like the quote, connect & swap Done! No KYC and it takes a few mins to do. This is how crypto was meant to be moved

Veganarchyst

If your focus is on taking profits you aren't really a bitcoiner and don't understand what Bitcoin is or why it exists Fiat money is a scam, so you are wanting to trade your one way of escaping the corrupt system to sell it to go back into a collapsing dollar that eternally loses value and scams you out of your money - either at your job or at the bank or at the wall street financial system or from government and taxes supporting never ending war Bitcoin was created from the 2008 collapse and bailout of the banks but not the people (people lost their lifetime savings and investments and houses, and no one came to help, because fiat and capitalism thrive off the people losing while they move your money to the wealthiest) It's while creation was to make a new system, a system that cannot be corrupted or forever printed If you'd rather have the corrupt fiat money, that's your choice, but you aren't understanding what BTC actually is or why it's beneficial for you to hodl it forever or until there is a robust Bitcoin system of purchasing and financial aspects We are closer now than ever But don't get distracted by the Wall Street, billionaire, big finance smoke screens The only things that have "failed" so far are all capitalist centralized systems, not Bitcoin People used capitalist centralized systems to borrow from or get returns on, and just like with every capitalism and centralized system, they failed That isn't a BTC issue, that's a capitalism fiat currency and centralized system failure

mano990502

find offline cryprto exchange and give them cash – they give you BTC on ypur wallet

BreakingDawn37

You don't want to make panic decisions... ever. Over the long-term, that means establishing a schedule you can afford and deciding when (if ever) you'll sell beforehand. Learn about BTC, but don't overreact to influencer opinion or the people who say Bitcoin is worth nothing/millions. Instead, focus on the mechanics of Bitcoin like the 21 million BTC hard cap and how halving works. Self-storage is essential once your BTC holdings become substantial. Don't obsess over BTC's daily price fluctuations. Bitcoin is volatile, and holding it becomes stressful if you need the money next year. Of course, it's that same volatility that drives potential profits. If you think in four-year time periods rather than four-day intervals, you'll be on the right track.

SpontaneousDream

Cold storage BTC. It has worked out extremely well.

ShoshiOpti

Your showing again your ignorance. Why are you trying to argue on something you clearly don't understand. "Keys being cracked" isn't an active thing, once the pseudo random combinations are generated a list of private/public keys are stored. Once any activity happens on that public key it's automatically matched and flagged. Literally depending on the person you could put in your BTC and it would be stolen the next block before you even realized it.

Hubek_us

Purely theoretically, it is June 2015. You bought 100 BTC, sent them to a wallet, and you're keeping it at home. Fast forward 15 years—the price of Bitcoin hits 500k, and you’ve blabbed to your family or colleagues about your investment. Kidnappings for that kind of money aren't exactly rare... Think twice.

decentralised_cash

I deal with raw private keys almost daily, even in this day-and-age of HD wallets. I *never*, **ever** delete a private key. Call me pedantic/paranoid/whatever, but you cannot account for *every* possible situation in which an old address might receive some BTC. I don't care how small the chance is. It's non-zero, and, therefore, I am never getting rid of any old private key. Like you (I am assuming, since you are asking this), I have been rather... disorganised... with my storage of them. I have non-funded private keys spread around digitally and physically. What I would suggest to us both is to derive every possible address/script type from every private key and store them in a CSV or JSON. Then, you can write a script that speaks to an Electrum server and queries the balance of each address. At worst, you can even run `scantxoutset start "[\"addr(ADDRESS)\",...]"` on all of them at once directly using `bitcoind` (simple Python script using `requests`).

LazyTech8315

I really don't think you follow my point. I don't care about semantics. If you no longer have the private key, it's the same result as "destroyed." If I stop using a key and store it in a secure place, isn't that "archived?" I've bought, had, used faucets, lost and sent bitcoin for 10⁺ years. Most of my BTC was purchased before widespread exchanges were available. I've used paper wallets back in the day and keep those private keys, too. But, it's all over the place and un-organized. Fear of a cached website? That was a quick brainstorm to get the discussion going. That's all. So, back to my question, where does everyone keep and monitor a hundred or two keys or XPRIV, whatever else comes? Does it makes sense to document it for future generations? Maybe Electrum will work well, but I wanted input and a discussion of ideas to come to a good solution, not a debate.

didnt_hodl

fuck it. I just keep IBIT at my broker. good luck stealing it. haha ETF shares are nearly impossible to transfer between brokerages (I tried), so the only path is to sell it for USD. which takes days. not minutes, days, every time. maybe my broker is special, dunno. but I think they are all like that. and then ok, what do you even do with that USD? withdraw as cash? haha. limited to 500 or so in the ATM. in-person visit to the local branch when it is open (good luck with that) can maybe fetch what 5k? anything above 10k would need to be pre-ordered weeks in advance. also would trigger all kinds of alerts. large cash simple does not move. oh, maybe a wire transfer then? haha, fully traceable, fully reversible and also takes days. large amounts usually trigger all kinds of additional checks and are usually just blocked or canceled. there are day and month maximums too very ofter. sorry, but tradFi has a lot to offer in terms of protecttion. a lot. with BTC in cold storage you are on your own kid. good luck protecting your bare ass. oh, yes, almost forgot you are so very sovereign, so free and independent. enjoy your freedom!!

Vinnypaperhands

BTC is simply a tool you can use. If you want to treat it like a cult you can. You can treat anything like a cult if you are stupid enough. That doesn't make btc a cult. Clowns, clowns everywhere I tell you.

SeemoarAlpha

Oh please, if you look at the attributes of cults, the BTC crowd certainly qualifies.

tk4213030

I heard that a ship captain thought he paid the toll to transit and get out of the gulf. Instead of sending the BTC to the correct address he actually sent it to wrong scammer's address. Let's just say he had to turn around.

InvestAISavvy

Curious about the "everyone is shorting" framing because the social data I track across about 10 platforms doesn't really back that up right now. BTC sentiment is sitting at 81%, which is above its monthly, weekly, and 6-month averages, and not far off the 52-week high. The dominant narrative isn't bearish at all — roughly 80% of the supportive conversation right now is institutional adoption stuff, mostly BlackRock buying and store-of-value framing. The actual critical/bearish themes are pretty small, around 15% on correction concerns and 5% on regulation. Social dominance is also climbing, sitting near 28% which is close to the 1-year high. So if anything the setup is "loud institutional bull narrative + small skeptic camp," not "everyone is bearish and due for a squeeze." Doesn't mean you're wrong about direction — could still squeeze for plenty of other reasons. Just that the contrarian sentiment thesis specifically isn't really showing up in the data the way it usually does before big upside moves. When BTC actually had explosive squeeze setups historically, sentiment was way lower than 81%.

Vinnypaperhands

Bitcoin ether and so on... What do you mean and so on lol. You should only be investing in BTC and you probably don't understand that very well at all. It's your fault you are in the situation you are in. Believing in a religion will get you nothing other than feeling like you are apart of a cult or somthing bigger and sure, that does it for some but that won't solve any problems either.

suckyuhhmada

Almost 3 years on BTC is solid — that kind of conviction is genuinely rare. Most people think they can hold but end up panic selling the first time it dips 30%. The psychological side of it is underrated. The "diamond hands" meme is silly but the underlying principle is real — if you don't have a clear reason to sell, noise from the market shouldn't be your reason either.

confusedguy1212

That’s because the risk profile for BTC and crypto in general is off the charts so the expectation in a pump is subsequently greater. If you can fall 50% in an afternoon you better believe that the required pump to get excited would be 200% at least.

Intelligent_Cup_5529

AI and bitcoin is not a good combo. Get that stuff off from BTC

InvestaHepps

I think the key tension right now is exactly what you’re pointing at - flows look supportive, but the market isn’t behaving like it should if it was broad risk-on. That usually means the liquidity is concentrating, not spreading… BTC holds up, a few outliers move, but the rest of the market doesn’t really follow. That’s why it still feels selective rather than expansion.

cr0ft

I mean, objectively speaking BTC is an atrocious crypto. Unbelievably slow and managed by either lunatics or active saboteurs, not sure which. A coin that can only transact 6 times per second isn't a coin at all. At least the people behind BCH tried their hardest to get BTC to accept a larger block size to alleviate congestion, and when all else failed they forked. BTC today can't even use the original whitepaper. Current day BTC no longer matches it, what with Segwit and other shenanigans. And it still has the 6 tps issue too.

yawars20

“Bitcoin is dead” takes are loud, but using a 1024EX agent shows a different story tracking decisions and market structure with AI keeps BTC trading data-driven, even through volatility. Adoption and activity are still climbing.

UnorthodoxShot

Definitely. This is assuming Rule #1 is broken. The only options to Un - KYC are sell and rebuy(liable for taxes) or CoinJoin. But still, it seems as though once you KYC once, the chance of you having that BTC exists along with the risk of an irl attack if said attacker wants to take the chance that you still have the btc

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CoffeeAlternative647

That's what happened to OP but he sold BTC instead and is on a spree for years shilling BCH. You should see his posts and comments at r/btc. Better than r/funnymemes

anymonero

They already announced there won't be any replay protection, so be careful that you don't lose your BTC trying to sell their shitcoin.

wjean

If you live in a city which is too permissive on property crimes so you can break any car window with very low risk of consequences, why not bust every window just to flip down the back seat and look in the trunk? I think a wrench attack is similar but can be more targeted. 1) you know from the kyc leaks/records this person has crypto (or maybe even a lot of crypto because of the leak 2) you don't know if they still have it but if you see them advertising a crypto fueled lifestyle or a lifestyle that exceeds what their know day job can provide, how much does a wrench attack really cost you? Why not find out? People with BTC stickers in the lambos and other shit like that are nuts to me. Yeah, great. Everyone knows now that you had enough magic internet money to buy this unnecessary luxury. Yours just advertising that you might have more...

Vinnypaperhands

Lol this dude. " BTC has so many flaws unlike with these 50 other coins who solved the problem" yea they solved the problem, that's why they are all so used and widely adopted.... Give me a break

b1mm3rl1f3

The general consensus for BTC is lower lows heading into Q4 but it still hasn't dropped below $60k despite everything thats going on and stock indexes are at ATHs. Very difficult to read