BTC

Major_Fox_2587

Because the market didn't collapse because of the 32BTC sell. Neither of those things were big enough to move the bitcoin market. Theres no way a 32 BTC sell would tank bitcoin, Approximately 35,000 to 45,000 Bitcoin (BTC) are traded every hour on average - so the 32 BTC sell wasn't even noticeable. Bitcoin is tanking cause it purely relies on how much extra money people have for risky investments. And right now that happens to be low due to the slumping economy. People need to pull out cause they lost their jobs or just dont want risk right now. Fear is high in general and thats what really killed the bounce we saw. It was a dead cat bounce in a rough current market. Every other explanation is a minor excuse. Have patience, itll probably come back eventually. Its still a good long term play, in ten years chances are it'll be up.

EstimateIll4262

I do have BTC. and more MARA than you will likely be worth in your lifetime. But OK.

Son_of_Sephiroth

21 BTC rn because even if I went back to 2010 I’d probably still blow it somehow 😂

matthegc

Fiat currency is controlled by governments who simply print more out of thin air….cheapening your time and effort that you put into earning that same fiat currency. BTC supply is set….no one can increase it on a whim, it’s on a set schedule. BTC conversion rate back to any fiat will always increase because the value of the fiat will always decrease due to governments simply creating more supply year after year.

Wildwildworld123

ETH will be around in 5 years, but i dont expect any new ATH. Just my opinion of course. Im only holding BTC at the moment.

EstimateIll4262

He has 0 BTC now And neither would you. Good luck

Wrong-Contest-9617

It is a fad no way this will stick. Do you really think the US or any government will accept taxes in BTC, when they have their own ccys that they control?

mel2000

> btc tanked to 16k after the FTX collapse. BTC also went over 120K after the FTX collapse.

teunbtc

It really depends on the situation.  In Germany, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are classified as private Veräußerungsgeschäfte (private disposal transactions) under § 23 EStG. When it IS taxable: You sell or spend BTC that you held for less than 1 year any gain is taxable as income The gain = current value at time of spending minus your original purchase price When it is NOT taxable: You held the BTC for more than 1 year, completely tax-free, regardless of the gain Your total gains from all such transactions in that calendar year are under €600 (minor threshold)

Blackiris-Code

Can you have physical BTC? No, only a hardware private key but the BTC is digital. You can move out of the US no matter how much USD you have in your bank accounts.

ReasonableSeesaw4801

Yea cause that's exactly what youd do in his position, hand 900 BTC to a stranger. Yea right....

Illustrious-Boss9356

I disagree that the subsidy becomes trivial only into the 2100's, I think that even with a $1m BTC price, the subsidy will shrink to effectively nothing within 10 years (3 halvings). Each block subsidy will be less than 1/2 of a bitcoin then. And real world fiat costs will likely increase for miners and nodes for the necessary quantum migration. I'm not suggesting there isn't a solution, but it likely won't solve itself.

Billkr

That is not the same as freezing your accounts. Don't be glib. You can take anything by force. It's simply a matter of how hard. I have had my accounts frozen before and all it took was a sternly worded letter from the government. You you have to catch me and torture me to get my BTC.

Illustrious-Boss9356

If you are sending real BTC and not IOUs, then what is the difference between lightning and the main chain?

Illustrious-Boss9356

You're 100% spot on in your thinking. Unfortunately this rabbit hole applies to any asset being rehypothecated. The solution is for the asset to have a use case in and of itself. For example, Gold is valuable because it's scarce. But most people own paper gold or ETFs. So because those can be printed ad infinitum, gold doesn't actually to up in price until the holders demand physical gold not just paper. Same with Bitcoin. If everyone is on just using Lightning or even worse, holding Bitcoin via ETFs, there becomes no reason to transact on the base layer. That does 2 things: 1. The price of BTC stays low because it's no longer scarce and 2. Lowers the security budget of the network. This is why people should use Bitcoin and if that trend continues to trend down, I suggest you slowly liquidate your Bitcoin in the coming years.

Big_Travel537

The altcoin rotation thesis you're laying out isn't crazy, I've seen that play out before where small caps hold strong right before a broader leg up. That said, the weekly support levels on BTC still look fragile to me and one bad micro print could invalidate the whole set-up pretty fast. Also don't forget to zoom out: if we uphold the four year cycle again, which I believe we will, any pump is temporary - we're heading to a market bottom EOY. But there's always good pumps to be had on the way down too, just keep the macro in mind so you don't roundtrip it down and negative. I've been using Prophet lately to get a second opinion on stuff like this since you're trading directly against AI odds rather than trying to guess what other degens think, which gives you a clearer read on actual probability. Helped me stay a bit more grounded during the last shakeout instead of just vibes trading. Stay and clean and emotionless when trading. No hopium.

Interesting_Loss_907

But over a 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12+ year time frame it has majorly *outperformed* the S&P. Also over a 4 year time frame BTC has outperformed the S&P.

Elmaster110

Bro even BTC is in a shithole and you wanna buy no name alts ? Gl

Sklaffer465

I did a small editing job for a techie client in May 2012. He offered to pay in Bitcoin. I asked for dollars. $600 or 100BTC. Yes, there are regrets in life.

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DrSpeckles

The fact it isn’t going to huge prices is a key reason it could be successful. If you are designing something to be useful, then something that isn’t crazy expensive is a better choice. It’s why stablecoins actually fit the use case better than, say, BTC. Wanting the price to go up as BTC folk do is counter to the original goal of making it the new currency. Now that’s not saying XRP will be the medium of choice, but it does show why the price shouldn’t be the goal.

LongDaysPleasntNites

In America they will “de-bank” you for a number of different reasons. As you can imagine this can be quite problematic. Also look up the Canadian freedom convoy protests in 2022. This is a good example of censorship and why BTC has many properties that people view as favorable

IAmSawyer

Didn’t read all of this but I just know it’s bullshit, investing in BTC is gambling, if you put most of your money in it you deserve to potentially lose all of it. Make it \~5% of your portfolio and absolutely no higher than 10%. I’m at 2.5% now waiting for a big dip to increase the amount slightly depending on how big the dip is

YouYeedYurLastHaw

If your reference point for the price of BTC is 80k, then it would seem like a 25% loss. Zoom out a bit for a longer trend line, like the last few years, then tell me how BTC compares to stocks and CDs.

Original-Read-6475

That doesn't need a careful choice, the answer is obviously blue. Purchase all the BTC you can and then while you sit on your stash buy a lottery ticket and win the jackpot. That should keep you comfortable while waiting for each cycle peak.

Suspicious-Can-7079

Xrp crazy price targets come from cult like propaganda that pretends it's going to be the world currency. They're using the Ethiopian calendar for their predictions because their date has already passed.. That's all you really need to know. Incoming AI slop on 1k xrp "Pure math first, then the narrative requirements. The math XRP has \~62B circulating supply and a max supply of 100B.  At $1,000/XRP: • Circulating market cap: \~$62 trillion • Fully diluted: \~$100 trillion For context, total global GDP is \~$110T. The entire US stock market is \~$50T. Bitcoin’s ATH market cap was around $2T. XRP at $1,000 would be the largest single asset in human history by a massive margin. What would actually need to happen 1. XRP becomes the dominant global payment rail. SWIFT processes \~$5T/day in cross-border flows. For XRP to justify that valuation, it would essentially need to capture a significant share of all global financial settlement — not just cross-border payments, but FX, trade finance, sovereign reserves. Even then, the question is whether XRP needs to be held to move value, or just used as a bridge (the velocity problem — high velocity = low holding requirement = lower price). 2. Massive supply reduction or burn mechanism. Unlike ETH (with EIP-1559) or BTC (21M hard cap), XRP was fixed at 100B at launch with no burn mechanism built in.  Without destroying supply, the per-token price ceiling is structurally lower than scarcer assets. 3. Ripple stops selling. Ripple controls \~42% of XRP through escrow reserves  and releases tokens on a schedule. That’s a persistent supply overhang. At $1,000, Ripple’s escrow would be worth \~$38 trillion — they’d be the richest entity ever created with enormous incentive to sell. 4. Regulatory and geopolitical tailwinds at a civilizational scale. XRP ETFs launched, SEC clarity arrived — that’s a catalyst for a $3–10 price, not $1,000. The jump from here to $1,000 is \~850x. Even the most bullish XRP scenario (replaces SWIFT, global adoption) struggles to justify more than low-to-mid three figures. Bottom line: $1,000 XRP requires a market cap that exceeds global GDP. It’s not a price target — it’s a thought experiment about whether a single crypto asset could become the reserve settlement layer of the entire world economy, with Ripple somehow not being a seller at those levels. Theoretically possible in a science fiction framing, practically implausible within any investable timeframe. If you’re bullish XRP, the realistic high-conviction range to debate is $10–50 (solid adoption, ETF flows, ODL scaling) vs. $100–200 (dominates global FX settlement, becomes quasi-reserve asset). $1,000 requires premises that would restructure the global financial system entirely."

Savik519

Regarding question #1, think of BTC as an equivalent to stacks of cash. Someone picks your pocket and steals $20 cash there is no getting it back, same with BTC. Banks and Credit card companies are layers that are built on top of the US dollar system. Those same banks could custody BTC and offer credit cards with the same protections we have today.

Soldiiier__

If I take the blue, BTC would've died in 2011

Euphoric_Coat_1956

Does OP understand that there are more things happening in the world than a company selling 32BTC?

cl3ft

Where as I'd hold that 21BTC until 2029. I don't need the money right now, and it's pretty much the lowest it's been this bear cycle.

RICONNECTORIA

Bullish retail echo chamber32 BTC dump was a public spot market execution hitting a thin order book to trick retail into hard stoplosses. 1000 BTC buy was just an anonymous offmarket OTC trade that bypassed public liquidit completely

Xennenial

He sold 32 BTC and a few days later he bought 1,550 BTC. Therefore, we should all panic and suspect doomsday scenarios.

IAmSomewhatDamaged

You’ve graduated to being a Veteran. I’m not even joking… this is a MASSIVE step forward in your BTC journey. It took me awhile to get to that point. Now that you’re here, all you do is DCA and buy chunks when it dips hard.

verysillyman

These are the buying opportunities everyone was hoping for when BTC was at $126k

lambdasintheoutfield

Man what I wouldn’t give to have even 0.5 BTC atm. Congrats man. Enjoy your financial freedom 🥂

Harfatum

Read from the first post. As security budget denominated in BTC decreases exponentially, either cost to attack decreases exponentially *or* potential damage/value of attack increases exponentially. Neither is a good future for Bitcoin.

Spicyocto

Those things don’t matter. Micro activity really The true reason bitcoin is going down is because mining is not profitable right now. Mining companies are shifting the power usage into AI data centre facilities. What would typically take years to set up from scratch, these mining companies can relatively easily modify their setup GPUs to develop AI which is all the rage right now. On top of that miners have the BTC to sell to fund the AI switch. Thats where to massive sell pressure is coming from But the BTC and blockchain is well established and isn’t going anywhere. There will be a time again when money flows back into BTC

Hairy_Purple9672

Back in 2012 i got hurt at work and was laid up for a year. i wanted to play around and invest in something. kept hearing about bitcoin and had $1k to throw away. This was around March 2012 and I went back and forth between lendingtree and bitcoin......i put the $1k in lendingtree. Was super excited back then making 8% apr on my $1k........yeah i should have went with BTC!

Reach_Beyond

I joined the hundred million club. Aka 0.21 BTC

MF_Price

Started buying in a year when BTC was sub $20 and you managed to accumulate 21 coins after 13 years? Thank you for this master class in investing.

Reach_Beyond

I’ll explain the market to you when you tell me why Saylor had to sell 32 BTC just to buy 1000 BTC shortly after. The amount of shares, voting rights, special dividends Saylor is building. It looks like he’s closer to Madoff that the next great investor. Anyone got Polymarket odds that Saylor is just running 1 big Ponzi scheme and doesn’t own all those BTC?

Playful_Judge_9942

There is more to BTC falling than Strategy selling. But, to answer your question it's the idea of Strategy doing something they never do VS something they always do. The "never sell your BTC" company selling BTC regardless of the amount makes people react more intensely than the same company who buys BTC all the time simply buying more BTC.

another1degenerate

I have no respect for this chart until BTC hits $1M

Theverybestestintown

I've got plenty of limit orders to scoop up BTC in the 50's. Deal of the year.

CaffeineComaMode

Haven't you realised yet that the market is heavily manipulated by the big players... If BTC had dropped further down, lots of small players would have made money on their shorts. Market manipulators had to terminate them before that happened.

MC_SKWAIRD

Nah man this was common in gaming tourneys back then. Yes I saw BTC as a prize in all kinds of gaming tourneys around that time it wasn’t exclusive to StarCraft and nothing unique about that structure

Tao_Jonez

The market moved lower for other reasons. Capital flight to AI is the preferred narrative this time around, Strategy never moves the price with their purchases and a small 32 BTC sale didn’t either.

whatwilly0ubuild

The main option for swapping USDT to native Bitcoin without a centralized exchange is THORChain. It's a decentralized liquidity network that supports native cross-chain swaps. You can swap USDT for actual BTC that goes directly to your Bitcoin wallet, no wrapped tokens, no custodian holding your funds during the swap. Interfaces that connect to THORChain include THORSwap, ShapeShift (the decentralized version), and a few others. You connect your wallets, specify the swap, and the protocol handles the cross-chain settlement. Fees are higher than centralized exchanges and slippage can be meaningful on larger amounts, but you maintain custody throughout. The practical considerations: Liquidity depth matters. For smaller amounts (under $50k), THORChain liquidity is generally fine. Larger swaps may have noticeable slippage or need to be broken into smaller transactions. You need a Bitcoin wallet ready to receive. Make sure you have a self-custody Bitcoin wallet set up before initiating the swap. The BTC goes directly there. The "horror stories" context. The advice to avoid CEXs isn't wrong in principle, but the horror stories usually involve leaving funds on exchanges long-term, getting caught in withdrawal freezes, or KYC-related account locks. Using a CEX briefly to swap and immediately withdrawing to self-custody is lower risk than the stories imply. That said, if avoiding CEXs entirely is your preference, THORChain works. For Dubai specifically, there's also active P2P trading communities, though those carry counterparty risk of a different kind.

BlackWormJizzum

Average price per BTC purchased by El Salvador is about $45k so up 35% total. So about $130 million in profit on top an initial $350 million purchase. And this is during a BTC slump where the price is half of what it was at peak.

Theverybestestintown

Who else is eagerly watching for a wick down to 55-59K to pick up some discounted BTC? Limit buys set.

Glass_Look_959

Strategy is in trouble BTC will continue to collapse once the Clarity Act is killed in the senate. No upside to hold BTC or any other crypto for the next 4 yesrs

FnAardvark

Sentiment effects the market. There used to be 800k BTC that was never supposed to hit the market again, and now that BTC could. Whether that was enough to cause a dump, or other factors were involved, I don't know.

AyeAye711

Easy answer. If you look at the long term chart. BTC has completed a head and shoulders pattern. So it has more to go down. Everyone is selling. Eventually the coin will look like all the others L

Forgot_Password_Dude

bots bruh. bots. gotta trick them AI algos and take advantage of cheap BTC

FitCompetition1804

That’s not why BTC dropped. May have slightly contributed but 32 BTC and some FUD was not the cause.

Blackiris-Code

By "collateral" I meant the token used to back the value of another token, like BTC backing a wrapped version of BTC. A lot of kind of bridge hack can drain the original BTC. I heard about token drain by an interaction with a token. That's a really bad flaw. I heard that Ethereum was like that but was fixed. On Solana it is not possible. Btw, what do you use Cardano for?

zkrooky

I looked at the chart today. Zoomed out. Zoomed out to the full life of BTC. The chart tells me we're going to $30-40K before we start climbing again.

Vinnypaperhands

I've heard this multiple times now. Do you really think him selling 32 BTC tanked the price or is it just normal market moves. Y'all saying him selling caused the down move is just flat out stupid. Zoom out. It's normal market behavior. Nothing new here

Upstairs-Ant-3917

Then that means that BTC is currently CHEAPER than it was back in 2021, adjusted for inflation.

tudorian95

Had 10 million HEX during the AA days. Also 20 ETH and 2 BTC. Gambled it all on Stake in the span of 2-3 days. This was in June 2020. Hex was like under $20k at the time, but later in 2021 bullrun it was 50 cents a token at the top (so $5 million). Doubled down on Pulsechain, down 99%. Good times. Learned my lesson, only DCA bitcoin but changed jobs so often (cause I couldn't hold any, thinking that I'll make it any day/week/month/year now; ditched that thought, now it's slow and steady) and still pay old credit I opened to buy that initial crypto that it won't be easy, but with time anything possible. 31 yr old rn, so there's still time

TutorDry3089

If this is just concerning Bitcoin and how much I would be able to hold, I would take the red pill, 21BTC now, as I can't trust myself to keep 21 BTC over 16 years after going back (even with all the knowledge). However, if I get to live the previous 16 years again, I would definitely take the blue pill, even if I can't take my knowledge of anything related to BTC or any other asset back. Time is the most scarce asset for us mortals.

cryptoklobby

Blue pill would be the easy choice except for the twins I had in 2011. I’d be terrified to butterfly affect them out of existence. I’ll take the 21 BTC.

CyanTurquoise

Why are you asking others what to do with your money? Nobody knows your finances and risk appetite and general life situation. If you chose to invest, why sell when you are down? Nothing fundamentally changed. I would advice you to have some patience or you will never going to make it. Investing in BTC should be longterm imo. You should be able to wait for a few years.

Archophob

21 BTC is enough.

CyanTurquoise

This only applies if you made profits off the BTC. If you just bought some to make a payment it's not a taxable event. But still, withdraw to your own wallet and then send it to the wallet to make a payment.

OneGift1540

give me 21 BTC because im dumb enough even if i go 2010 with that knowledge nothing i could change..

syntynyt

I was an engineer for Schlidbach wallet back in 2010 and I know how is stored in flash even if deleted. I can help you recover your BTC through TeamViewer for just 1 BTC if I suceed. Pm

quintavious_danilo

Capital gains are subject to capital gains tax. This means that the profits you make from buying and selling are subject to capital gains tax. No tax is due if the BTC price drops after the purchase or if you don't make a profit (buy and sell within the same minute).

Suitable_Acadia_190

That is a real cost and worth taking seriously. The preferred equity and convertible note structure Strategy uses to fund acquisitions carries yield obligations that do not disappear in a bear market. The counterargument is that the arbitrage only breaks if BTC appreciation persistently underperforms the cost of capital over the holding period. At current treasury size and with the ETF demand floor underneath spot price, that is a structural bet against the asset itself rather than against the financing model. Saylor is essentially long the spread between BTC appreciation and 11% yield. Whether that spread holds is the actual debate. The fools running out thesis assumes the yield stops attracting capital. It has not yet. That may change. But the demand floor point stands independent of whether Saylor's financing model is genius or eventually a cautionary tale.

Fear_Blind83

I didn't say it's not on the blockchain, I said Saylor doesn't have open buy orders of like 1500 BTC just sitting on an exchange waiting to be filled.

Lukeskiski

Strategy’s buys and sells dont control the market. BTC 24hr volume is $40B. Even if strategy bought that 1,000 BTC within a 24hr period, that’s 0.1% of daily volume. Articles/people that compare strategy’s purchases with daily mined supply do no justice.

warpingDragon

Go back to 2010 easily, I can buy BTC and learn Japanese.

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Local_Math_5512

Oracle networks like CHAINLINK and PYTH are likely to stick around too. I'm not personally invested, but that's because ETH, BTC, and SOL are already probably too much crypto exposure for me and my portfolio. I think the Oracle Networks have value, but I'm sticking to the top trilogy of crypto for now. Hyperliquid, Tron, and Zcash also have legs despite the recent Zcash 'Orchard Pool' vulnerability.

Important_Neck_2122

I purchased ETH for $1,200 in 2023. Also purchased BTC at the same time for about $24k

zzmorg82

That’s what I’m thinking as well. Give me the 21 BTC now so that I can turn a chunk of it into fiat and then play the long game with simple S&P 500 investing. Plus, you have the whole “butterfly effect” piece by taking the blue pill.

quintavious_danilo

OP, you need to be aware that by sending BTC to another wallet and using it as a method of payment you create a taxable event which you‘ll have to declare with your next Einkommensteuererklärung.

Keyosu

BTC has made more progress in that department in the last 3 years than it has in the previous 14

rocket_beer

You mean live through Trump and Covid all over again??? Naahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I’ll take the 21 BTC right now

reddituserVibez

i actually hear the first time from Liquid.. i have a BitBox Hardware Wallet… So is this possible: Buy USDT on Binance -> Sent them to Aqua Wallet (Liquid) -> Swap Liquid USDT to normal? BTC -> BTC to Hardware Wallet

Adrima_the_DK

After reading your post I quckly opened my wallet. And I still have the same amount of BTC. I dont know what you are talking about but I still have the same amount. Should I be worried ? /s

Advanced-Ice2095

There’s too many people buying BTC with leverage, system will force them to sell when BTC dips below a threshold.

DreamingTooLong

Liquid Network removes KYC from BTC & USDT SideSwap is an order book for liquid network limit orders https://sideswap.io Blockstream Green Wallet and Aqua Wallet are compatible. Jade Hardware Wallet is compatible. Boltz.Exchange is a quick swap.

mtblanche14

I just felt an enormous wave of second-hand depression, and I decided to do the maths… Bitcoin is currently trading at around  $62,639. At that price, 5,000 BTC would be worth approximately $313.2 million. Bitcoin’s all-time high was $126,198, reached last October. At that peak, 5,000 would have been worth just over $630.9 million! For context, having sold at $0.40 per coin, the original $2,000 sale would need to have grown by roughly 315,000 times to match the all-time high value. You’re in the same league as that guy who threw away his wallet and has been trying to get a Welsh landfill dug up for the last 10 years. Except he lost 8000. Hope that makes you feel better.

CarnEvil13

Considering most people don't have any real money in BTC, I'd say their losses are small.

reddituserVibez

So i buy USDT on Binance, sent them to my Aqua Wallet they arrive as Liquid USDT, than i sent them to an Exchange (SwapSwop.io has very low fees and it‘s no KYC, is this one ok?) and swap them to BTC… so the BTC are not traceable than?

tehsecretgoldfish

21 free BTC SVP tyvm.

GianBarGian

Yeah indeed, downvoted the post. The choice is pretty easy. If you are happy with your life take the BTC. If you are unhappy with it go back in time. You can become extremely wealthy BTC or not, but that's not really the point, if you can go back in time (with the knowledge) you can (maybe?) become happier 15 years later.

DreamingTooLong

Send the USDT to Aqua Wallet using Liquid Network Liquid USDT is private. Boltz.Exchange is an easy way to swap in and out of a privacy USDT & BTC BTC on Liquid is private too. Transaction amount and coin type do not get recorded to blockchain

FuckM0reFromR

Worship this man, for he will flood the market with cheap BTC when he crashes out. You will not get a more obvious opportunity for generational wealth in your lifetime.

BennyOcean

What happens with (Micro)Strategy if/when BTC drops another $10-15k? is there some kind of liquidation point?

Educational_Cable405

The pivot is about power contracts, not BTC. A miner's real asset is energized grid capacity, and AI tenants sign 10+ year fixed rate deals for it while hashprice sits near record lows. Core Scientific basically became CoreWeave's landlord because guaranteed rent beats gambling on hashprice. Meanwhile network hashrate keeps setting all time highs, so someone is clearly still plugging in ASICs.

bansoma

I'll sell some at certain much higher prices, part of this is the "why" I bought. (Do you know yours?) BTC is for the future. But it isn't money if it isn't also partly for the "now." I gave some of my BTC a "job" when I purchased it. When it comes time to do that "job" it will have grown and I won't have to deploy 100% it to get the "job" done. Then I can have my cake and eat it too. Patience works wonders. Many of the sellers at $120k were long time holders. Most of those sellers sold small portions of their generally much larger pie. -- They are still HODLING, they just wanted to get a mansion somewhere and figured why not now?

bacta_tank

Grab both pills, eat the red and transfer the 21 BTC to a wallet your family owns, then take the blue pill and spend 16 years buying all the BTC.

aeroxan

Bad luck BTC time travel: gets too greedy and buys up too much too early.

nicorobinfan8

Looks like someone trying to pump a dead coin, remember that alts drop 95-99% meanwhile BTC drops 70-75%. Peace

zenren1989

Seen a lot of "selling my BTC to buy SpaceX ipo" from commenters, retail, etc. and I giggle at that every time because that seems like the ultimate sell low buy high move if i've ever heard of one.

Albert14Pounds

I would like to redo much of the last 16 years anyways and the knowledge would be a plus. If you're on going back in time it's not even a question. Bitcoin wasnt valued over a dollar until Apr-2011. So getting 21+ is easy. I would probably quit college and work as much as I could to earn money to buy Bitcoin. Sell the run up to ~$25 in June 2011. From there you just need to know BTC runs every 4 years starting in 2013 and you can probably retire after the 2013 run. At some point I build a house that has a dedicated room for mining and utilizes the heat for HVAC and heated floors. My heat pump water heater definitely pulls on that hot warm air and also heats my pool/hot-tub during the summer. I get solar panels obviously because they'll pay off quickly given my heating/cooling is all electric. I would be bored not working so I probably start a business out of one of my hobbies. I like brewing beer and that takes heat so I start a brewery that uses mining waste heat. Call it something dumb like BITter Beer and cash in on the IPA craze. I could go on.

Electronic-Rate5497

I mean it's not a bad trade the damn Porsche loses value the moment you leave the dealership and lets not talk about maintenance mmm I will take 2 of your BTC at current price

No_Knee3385

Its tech, if you're unwilling to learn how it works, why even bother investing? Just buy ETH and BTC and chill then