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Impressive-Dust5395

Your exact use case is why crypto payments exist. Custom work + in-person pickup + chargebacks is a brutal combo. Square with Lightning enabled is your fastest path since you already use Square. Zero interchange fees on BTC payments through end of 2026 and instant conversion to dollars if you don't want to hold. BTCPay Server is the self-hosted option if you want zero middleman but it takes more setup. Start with Square Lightning, test it on a few orders, and expand from there.

Colekaine

This is a kind of miserable time in the cycle where it's too high to buy and too low to sell if you aren't a DCA investor, there's people who are still coping that we aren't in a bear, the super cycle cope people, there's these weak bear rallies that run out of steam and dump. I don't think we've seen the bottom yet and expect it to go back to crabbing around the 60 range before it dumps further over the summer and finds a bottom around 40 by E0Y. It's a long way until the next halvening and we only just started the bear year. This used to just be noise for me because I would think of the space in longer terms but it's really running out of steam if the last 2 cycles gained 50k from the bottom and are going to see more diminishing returns from there, it's going to be a long time before BTC hits 1mill and next cycle would put it not even at 200k at this rate. I would love some hopium but there's a lot of uncertainty.

Andrej38995

I follow BTC Logarithmic Regression Bands and we are in a good zone to accumulate funds..... we are in a fair value region as of april 2026... u can look for yourself here if you are interested: [https://www.cryptochemistry.net/bitcoin/logarithmic-regression](https://www.cryptochemistry.net/bitcoin/logarithmic-regression)

DC8008008

Sell 9 BTC, buy 12,500 shares of QQQI and live off the $7500/month dividends. Hold the 1 BTC forever.

ElMasAltoDeLosEnanos

If you need BTC in oder to pass through Hormuz in the fufure, you might as well buy it now while it's cheap no?

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Post is by: ProofThatPLS and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1shobst/how_to_borrow_against_your_crypto_step_by_step/ A lot of explanations of crypto loans are vague or skip the parts that matter. Here's a concrete walkthrough with actual numbers. **Step 1: Understand LTV (Loan-to-Value).** LTV is the ratio of your loan to your collateral value. Deposit $10,000 in Bitcoin, borrow $5,000 - that's 50% LTV. Most platforms let you borrow 50–90% depending on the asset and loan term. Higher LTV = more cash but less buffer before liquidation. **Step 2: Calculate your real liquidation threshold.** Real numbers: you deposit $10,000 in BTC, borrow $6,000 (60% LTV). If BTC drops 25%, collateral is now worth $7,500. Loan is still $6,000 - LTV is now 80%. Most platforms warn around 80–85% and liquidate around 90–95%. Starting at 60% LTV, a 33% price drop puts you in danger. Starting at 50% LTV, it takes a 44% drop. That buffer matters enormously. **Step 3: Understand loan terms vs LTV.** This matters more than people realise. Shorter term = higher LTV available but a repayment deadline. Longer term = lower LTV ceiling but more time. The right choice depends on your cash flow, not just how much you want to borrow. **Step 4: Interest rates.** Typically 8–15% APR depending on platform and term. On a $5,000 loan at 12% APR for 3 months, you pay about $150 in interest. That's the cost of keeping your crypto position. **Step 5: Platform differences.** Nexo and Ledn are well-known, offer around 50% LTV on BTC. YouHodler goes up to 90% LTV on 30-day loans, Swiss-regulated. More in [r/YouHodler\_Official](https://www.reddit.com/r/YouHodler_Official/) on the specifics. **Step 6: Manage it actively.** Not set-and-forget. Check LTV every few days during volatile periods. Most platforms let you add collateral or partially repay to bring LTV down. Have a plan: at what BTC price will you add collateral? At what price will you repay early? TL;DR: Start at 50% LTV or lower, know what price triggers your liquidation, have cash ready to act. The interest is usually your smallest concern - liquidation is the real risk. Questions welcome. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Realistic_Pizza4178

That’s exactly why I’d use some BTC for it.. because those costs exist. The point isn’t to move blindly, it’s to move strategically. Even after covering visas, taxes, and setup costs, the upside can still be huge: lower living expenses, better mobility, and more long-term freedom + Growth and most importantly "SAFETY". Staying stuck with a weak passport also has a cost..it just isn’t as visible.

Calm-Professional103

Maybe Iran should pull a Bukele and be the first major country to adopt BTC as currency since for all means its own currency is worthless

SHA256-Ghost

This is a tough question, or not? Bitcoin was designed to be a digital cash payment system, so people should use it to pay for services, and the value should be stable, not being affected by the inflation. Users are supposed to calculate the value of services in coins or satoshis instead of converting the dollar value of the product or services to bitcoins. The value of the coin is steady; it is still 1BTC. The problem comes when people realize how strong the protocol is compared to the weak power of traditional money, and that a bitcoin is a good investment opportunity to protect the value of their traditional funds. But that brought a high demand, and with limited supply, the price skyrocketed. Owning bitcoins and considering their dollar value is a nice thing, but that is not what they were built for. I am so sad seeing how many people here are thinking in dollars. Bitcoin is not a good investment. The price is not growing with the time, it is still one bitcoin. If value of 1BTC is now equal to 72k dollars, and it was 27k 3 years ago, it does not mean the value of bitcoin grew almost 3 times since. It means the value of the dollar dropped to almost one third since then.

sidestyle05

“Rando on internet draws lines on a chart, predicts BTC to go up if it doesn’t go down.”

Rshellnizzle

There’s several different platforms that lend, coinbase, strike, nexo etc. just do a search and see who has the best rates and terms. You’ll have to move your BTC to the platform and let them hold it as collateral and apply for the loan or line of credit if you choose that route but usually the interest rates on a line of credit is adjustable and not good for long term like a loan.

Yone_official

May be mostly in BTC since stablecoins can be frozen as well.

deadshift2010

If I had 10 BTC I certainly wouldn't be telling somebody what I'd do with it, much less acknowledge that I have 10 BTC lol

Yone_official

So called a terrorist state actually driving the global adoption of BTC is something of a feat in itself. It's going to be interesting, US also doesn't have a choice but to go the crypto route.

johny_nugget

"10 BTC is a life-changing amount. Personally, I’d keep 8 BTC in cold storage for the long term and use the rest to fund a startup or passive income stream. Financial freedom isn't just about having the money; it's about what you do with it."

Even_Sugar6852

Deposited 0.001 BTC on ViaBTC.co.uk; just to test their “wothdrawal” functionality, I withdrew the same 0.001 BTC. That worked. I deposited my 0.001 BTC again and this time tried to withdraw 0.002 BTC (I.e. more than I had). That also worked, and it started confirming on the blockchain straight away. Not complaining, but still quite a stupid bug.

ginana789

You should buy coins with high growth potential now that are similar to what BTC/ETH was 10 years ago

Odd_Bar9513

How much $ did you spend ETF’s and to pay off your debts? Sounds like a sound and reasonable move all in all. Though probably personally I would have kept a bit more as BTC.

Realistic_Pizza4178

I really dont get it... $13/btc for 3 bitcoins after the 10 BTC?

davidvietro

10 BTC (\~$1M)... Are you living a few months in the past?

sylsau

Nothing more and nothing less than with 1, 5, or 20 BTC. The purpose of Bitcoin is to allow you to live your life on your own terms. With 10 BTC, you'll find a way to do what truly makes you happy in life. Without needing to ask anyone else.

kingcakeaholic

In 2012 I met a dude at Starbucks and received $200 worth of bitcoin from him for something I was selling to him. He sat down with his laptop and “sent” me the bitcoin to my address. We had a coffee while the transaction gathered a couple of confirmations and boom, we were done. You can do exactly the same thing today with someone across the table or across the world on the Internet. I’d advise you to use something called a ColdCard to manage your Bitcoin wallet keys. It works great with an app you’ll run on your laptop called Sparrow. There are lots of videos by a guy named BTC Sessions on YouTube on how to set this up. Enjoy world wide payment, low fee, secure, and 10 minute irreversible settlement across the Internet.

sophie2701

just integrate a button on you website which, when clicked on, generates a random bitcoin adress to a wallet you own. same with lightning, get yourself a lightning adress with a self custodial wallet like "green wallet", and generate lightning invoices if people wanna pay via lightning. (In that case you'd get liquid BTC tho, but you can transact the liquid via lightning to any exchange account you own and it'll get transversed back into BTC, for instance you'd have to send from Green Wallet to Coinbase.)

MillionMinerCOM

sell 10 BTC?? bro just borrow against it like a normal millionaire. never sell the corn

FromThePits

Hodl 9 BTC for my hopefully early retirement, and put the rest in a generational wealth [builder](http://www.thegreekchain.info/the-guide)

_GOREHOUND_

I wish my 10 BTC were worth $1 million, and I’d keep holding them until they hit that peak and beyond…

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Post is by: Vane1st and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1shlbxy/btc_4h_setup_continuation_or_overthinking/ watching BTC on the 4H and trying to figure this out price is above the ichimoku cloud and still making higher lows, so it looks bullish but momentum feels a bit weak idea was simple: break + retest before considering anything invalid if structure breaks below support target = next resistance (\~1:2 RR) been trying to follow more structured setups lately (picked up a similar idea from IchisTradingPlace), but not sure if this is clean or just overthinking would you take this, or wait for more confirmation? also, do you trust the cloud alone or always add confluence? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

rnobgyn

Well.. a central pillar I keep in mind is that nothing will happen over night. Even in middle school I knew replacing modern currency would take a lifetime. So far in my life, I’ve seen crypto follow the early predictions to a T and Iran officially adopting crypto is proof of that. Just like I can’t use GPB to pay rent in the US, I can’t use BTC either, but I can use GBP for rent in the UK and BTC for oil in Iran… it’s officially been adopted by an actual government as a recognized currency. Plus when you consider the near decade of stacking Blackrock and other top .1% types have done, the slow steady climb BTC has done, and the assumed logic that billionaires won’t let the normies in until they’ve hoarded as much of the new wealth as possible… plus the increasing insolvency of fiat… Makes me dismiss your pessimism. Things are going according to plan.

Weltenkind

I didn't say that at all. The argument was that \> The useability of cryptocurrencies and specifically of BTC is beginning to be a reality Which paired with these news just is wrong, and would actually be a counter argument. I don't think Bitcoin is doomed, but I also dont think it will become a proper fiat currency anytime soon.

cyger

That was before ETFs and Strategy, I think it will play out differently this time. We didn't have a blowoff top so maybe a 50% draw down is sufficient. Also you have to be impressed how well BTC has held up given the situation in the middle East.

AdPrevious5886

I mean, i wouldn't throw everything at once, but having that 90% to throw while DCAing. 2-3 years feels more than safe to me to invest almost 90% of my savings expecting a good returns. But those returns couldnt be that good if i invested, for example, into BTC, thats why i choose ETH to post about it. Also, wouldn't invest in any other crypto than those 2. Maybe few dollars in some like SOL but really not for the long term, just for months to see what happens.

Ghost_In_The_Ape

A terrorist regime bypassing sanctions with BTC. Not a good look for crypto. Just reinforces that it's used for nothing good.

Sufficient_Fuel5269

But the Bitcoin that you bought in an Exchange should not give you problems... for what they use it, it will be another matter! That it can give a bad reputation to the token yes, but I don’t think that in the future it will be so negative as to devalue cryptocurrencies or BTC for example to zero...

RazzleLikesCandy

Not sure what they think they can do with the BTC in their graves

Dependent_Code7796

I appreciate this for the double entendre, being a BTC sub and orange really does have a fantastic smell

mustafa_khalifa

why all the countries adopting BTC are the evil or failing? Iran is a Islamic Dictatorship, and that fact that they are using Bitcoin proves that today, digital assets are used mostly for illegal staff.

unknowngloomth

I'm not recommending any kind of investment. You absolute 🤡. Yeah, I'm aware of FTX collapse. So what? That's the risk I'm willing to stomach it. Who said I don't trust the project? I trust HYPE. The team literally didn't sell a single coin. It's all on-chain. Even Arthur Hayes who held and had dumped HYPE watched the team literally not selling their coins. He bought back and became bullish. HYPE tokenomics is deflationary. They use the trading fees to buybacks and burn. Everything happens in real time which you can check by yourself checking on-chain data. Am I saying that hype will be the next BTC? No, fuck that. Am I saying that HYPE is a sure thing? No, fuck that. In crypto everything is uncertain. But yeah, I believe that HYPE has the potential to dwarf SOL and compete with BNB, XRP and ETH. Am I recommending you to buy HYPE? No, screw you. You don't have the balls to go all in on ETH the wager you believe and that's why you're posting here wondering to strangers. Nobody knows shit about fuck in this space 🤡

Glad-External8640

BTC is inevitable

Sufficient_Fuel5269

The useability of cryptocurrencies and specifically of BTC is beginning to be a reality

aeronauticalingrid

I hold mainly stables which I might use for real world payments and also a small amount of BTC.

TheRadishBros

I mean, the world’s largest economy now has a literal strategic reserve of BTC; you can’t get much more mainstream than that.

TangerineSpiritual51

Keep your money for end of the year..when BTC ..will drop

thienpro2

Total game changer for capital efficiency. Being able to keep gold exposure while using it as margin for BTC/ETH trades is a solid move by BingX. Definitely beats letting assets sit idle

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Post is by: dustyllanos27 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1shh00z/is_anyone_elses_ai_agent_way_too_conservative_or/ Running an agent on 1024EX beta for about 2 weeks. Momentum strategy on BTC. The agent is profitable (+3.1%) but it passes on SO MANY setups. Like, I can see clear breakouts that meet all my criteria and the agent just sits there. When I check the logs it's always something like "insufficient volume confirmation" or "risk-adjusted return below threshold." In the last 10 days it took 5 trades. I would have taken probably 15. On one hand — it's profitable and the trades it DOES take have a high hit rate. On the other hand, I feel like it's leaving money on the table. Anyone know if there's a way to make it more aggressive? Or is this just... the point? That it's supposed to be the disciplined version of you? starting to think the agent's biggest feature is stopping me from overtrading and I'm not ready to accept that emotionally *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Plane-Salamander2580

If you want safe relative to crypto, there's really only BTC and ETH. Slightly more speculative you have Cardano.

brianmonarch

Not true. XRP has outperformed it in the last year or 2. Look it up. BTC just has a store of value at this point. And that might be enough for it to succeed. But if utility matters in the future, and I think it might, I’m not sure it’ll be as good of a money maker as it has been. But maybe!

yoobermcruber

0.00057053 BTC was sent to bc1qjjww43wu2e4uxxhkw3nrueyg2nljj8acn870k3 in that transaction and the transaction was confirmed. Nobody here can tell you if that is their "old address" or anything else. It honestly just sounds like somebody is scamming you.

ubermensch1001

This is a solid place to have made your first entry into this asset. If you are possibly interested in accumulating more, I would spend time learning about BTC itself and also study where it currently is compared to previous cycles and where it's going. I would also come up with some sort of accumulation strategy if you do in fact decide to continue to buy. IF this is the case, I'd also learn about self custody, how to use a cold wallet, securing seed phrases, etc. I would also accept that unless you are willing to accumulate a lot this is not going to make you rich easily and that it will take time and effort. Depending upon your budget, set goals for yourself that are reasonable instead of going to some insane target you have 0 chance of ever hitting. You will always feel left behind, but going for .01 then .025 and .1, etc. If you are living in America and serious about accumulating, you still have a very realistic shot of getting to .1+, which is a very big deal and way ahead of what the overwhelming majority of people will ever have.

beingmodest

What of Steve Keen's prediction on BTC hitting $0. He says the core design is flawed :-p

Apprehensive-Book787

16 years ago, 10.000 BTC got you a couple of pizzas, today it gets you 350 ships through the Strait of Hormuz… progress..

Zestyclose_Cheek527

I tried recovering the one that passed the checksum in BlueWallet aswell and used other types in electrum. I must have never received the BTC

Apprehensive-Book787

16 years ago, 10000 BTC got you a couple of pizzas, now it can get 350 ships through the Strait of Hormuz.. progress..

Apprehensive-Book787

Who would have thought that “Crypto President” Trump would trigger a bull run by allowing Iran to cash in these Strait of Hormuz toll fees in BTC…

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PurpleRodd

Thank you so much, I was planning on doing this route too. I love BTC and def want to do it long term. I'll also consider having a minor in fintech or ai engineering (im gonna kms throughout college)

Ok_Winter8503

For someone brand new I’d keep it boring on purpose. If it’s crypto only, BTC first and maybe ETH second, but I definitely wouldn’t start a family member off with a bunch of random alts and call that “investing” Most people think they’re diversifying when they’re really just adding more ways to be wrong

RaMeR31

Guten Morgen, ich denke keiner von uns hier weiß ob und wann BTC durch die Decke geht. Wie sagt man bei uns in Ostfriesland: Abwarten und Tee trinken 😎

MtGloomy0420

When you mention $BTC and have no idea what you are talking about, you buy more $BTC! When those same people come out (Terrance Howard) and suddenly have an option about $BTC, you definitely 💯 buy more!! Idiots.

--TheCity--

BTC, Yuan and stable coins.

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1shbbj9/btc_hit_72k_on_ceasefire_news_etfs_just_had_their/ Let's look at what's actually happening in the market right now versus what sentiment is saying, because the gap between them is unusually wide. This week: BTC pushed above $72,000 on ceasefire optimism as Trump announced a two-week pause in Iran hostilities brokered through Pakistan. Monday saw $471 million in ETF net inflows. It's the sixth-largest single day of 2026. Morgan Stanley's $MSBT launched on Tuesday at 0.14%, the cheapest spot Bitcoin ETF on the market, attached to $9.3 trillion in wealth management AUM. Bitcoin has now broken out of a two-month $62K–$75K range to the upside on meaningful volume. The ceasefire, fragile as it is, has removed the single biggest macro headwind that's been sitting on every risk asset since late February. Fear & Greed: 11. Extreme Fear. That's the widest disconnect between price action and sentiment that's appeared in this whole bear market cycle. Price is doing one thing. The index tracking how scared people are is doing the complete opposite. There are two readings of this. The cynical one: Fear & Greed is a lagging sentiment indicator based on social media volume and survey responses from retail participants, many of whom have been burned repeatedly over the last six months and no longer trust bounces. The index being at 11 during a $72K print just means retail is exhausted and disengaged, not that the market is actually fragile. The other reading: the market is right to be scared. The ceasefire is two weeks, not a peace deal. Iran hasn't formally confirmed all terms. Oil is still above $100. The Fed is on hold. The altcoin divergence, where ENA is down 66% over 90 days, SUI and ARB down 50%+ while AI and privacy tokens outperform, suggests capital is concentrating rather than rotating broadly. That's not what healthy recoveries look like. What I'd actually watch: [if BTC holds above $72K into the weekend without the ceasefire unravelling](https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-shatters-72000-as-middle-east-ceasefire-sparks-relief-rally/), the next resistance is $75K–$76K. A close above that on spot demand rather than short liquidations would be the first genuinely clean bullish signal in months. If the ceasefire breaks and oil spikes again, back to $65K–$67K support. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

steebulee

You’re in a crypto sub boss. And it’s a BTC etf. It did absolutely nothing for bitcoin.

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Zestyclose-Suit-2858

The irony is that you don't realize that posts about price (like this one) are the same talking point? Over and over and over again. With 0 input, nothing interesting. But I hope you have fun giving yourself all kinds of anxiety by tracking the daily BTC price. :) Reddit hasn't been the place to talk about Bitcoin anyways, for at least a decade.

AdPrevious5886

Yes, you said it. If i held over that period. But i didnt because i was completely new, made my research, took my chances and it paid off, not as good as it could, but enough for a 22yo at the time. Now if i hold 50$ a month from now until ATH, return on BTC would be nothing compared to ETH.

Lazy_Intentions

My wife’s boyfriend says BTC moon tomorrow

chance_waters

Your return on BTC would be much higher than your return on ETH. With what you are describing just go throw your $50 down at the casino.

CalligrapherSpare634

I started with Kraken because the fees are reasonable and I didn't want to accidentally open a futures position like you mentioned. Coinbase is even simpler but fees are higher. One thing I wish I knew earlier: you can check order book depth across exchanges before committing to one. Some look liquid on the surface but have thin walls that cause slippage. CoinLobster shows aggregated BTC order books and liquidation data for free - useful for seeing which exchange actually has the depth for your size.

Deep_Ad5293

The hardest part for most beginners is realizing price action is just a symptom. The real drivers are order books and liquidations. A free tool like [coinlobster](https://coinlobster.com/crypto) makes it easier to see those dynamics, like a 500 BTC sell wall forming or a cascade of leveraged longs getting wiped, without having to piece it together yourself.

AdPrevious5886

Thats for sure. Im not investing everything in one time, i will take my time to do it properly, and probably will buy some little BTC again, who knows, just in case it reaches 500k or 1M someday in the next 20 years. Thanks, wishing good for you too!

AdPrevious5886

I dont think we are talking about the same graphics, and also could not agree on anything. Tbf, ETH did break its 2021 ATH in 2025, the last bull cycle, thats why i call it slow and steady. It was harder for it than BTC to reach ATHs, but it did. Also, how much is BTC down this year? You just upholding based on facts that can lead the conversation into your favour. You compare BTC and ETH with XMR and BNB, but you dont want me to compare HYPE with DOGE. Nobody expected DOGE to reach his ATH, and it did. Also, didnt have any institutional backing, like almost any crypto does, but i remember you Elon Musk, one of the richest and market manipulation person on the world, backed it many times. Who is even behind HYPE? Who backups it to be that trustful to you? Just your illusions. Also, yes, it worked for me. But BTC worked for me too, and i dont think is a profitable investment for me anymore. Im going back wanting the memories, yes, but also while having many takes and paths to follow. Thats why i take my time to choose my investments. Thats why i like to know how people think. Because i like to analize every scenario possible, even if its not going to happen. And the only one talking about HYPE in a post that has nothing to do with HYPE, even when other people told you're wrong already, are you. Still trying to convince how good investment HYPE is, when its the third time im saying that im not taking you seriously. Delusional, gambler, greedy, and also obstinate.

unknowngloomth

Slow and steady? ETH is down 27% this year while you're calling it steady. BTC hit new ATHs. BNB hit new ATHs. HYPE up 61% in a confirmed bear market. ETH couldn't even break its 2021 ATH in a full bull cycle. That's not slow and steady. You compared HYPE to DOGE. DOGE has no revenue. No buybacks and burnz. No institutional backing. HYPE generated $14 million in fees last week alone. You said you don't need to strike it rich. Fine. But you're planning to put 90% of survival money into an asset that underperformed the S&P 500 over 4 years. That's not conservative. You said I'm a gambler, but you're about to bet 90% of everything you own on one asset because it worked for you once in 2020.The casino analogy is perfect actually. ETH is your favorite slot machine because it paid out once. You're going back because of memory not maths

Arc_ClutchUp

Honestly any answer that’s not BTC would be wrong😂

AdPrevious5886

I told you, im not taking you seriously. ETH grows slow but steady, just cant compare it. Putting BTC and ETH in the same bag and comparing their growth to the BNB, SOL and XMR or even HYPE, tells me enough. And you also doesnt seem to know how to read. I dont need to strike it rich, i need some peace and some decent money to cover holes. Also, saying " risk big in low market cap" just confirm what i said, you're a gambler. And greedy. And as someone that was a greedy gambler on casinos, maybe idk what to do with my monet but i know perfectly what to not do. Greedy gambling NEVER ends good. So keep going balls deep on HYPE, maybe someday you strike it rich like some people did back in the day with DOGE. And you know what? If that ever happens, i will feel happy for you, because you got what you wanted. But also i would be happy if it never happens, because would mean i was right nowadays. So i have a 100% chance to be happy, while you have a slightly 50% less chance due to your expectations.

Cyberblood

So if crypto was the movie Junior, BTC would get pregnant?

Kurosaki56843

I'm seeing lots of people keep spamming that the bottom is in, that a huge pump is right around the corner... just because BTC went up to $72k.. I hope I'm wrong, I hope in 2 weeks I get like 100 messages saying stuff like "well this aged well" and so on, but tbh the reality is looking like we're gonna head lower further into 2026

AdPrevious5886

I mean, it is. It is a good investment, but not really worthy for people like me that could only afford maybe investing 50 monthly dollars or so. Maybe worthy is not the word, maybe it is profitable. I dont think is profitable anymore for people like me. Feels like its just for people who already have some interesting amount or for people that can get an interesting amount without even care about the money. Being realistic, if you invest 50 dollars monthly from now, until next ATH, if it happens in 2028, thats 2 years, and you invested like 50x24=1200$ , at an average cost of lets say 70k, sometimes 67k sometimes 73k, you will have lets say, aiming higher, 0,02 BTC. You will spend 2 years waiting and investing just to double your investment, in the best case. Wait 2 years just to make 1200$, or 600$ a year, feels not worthy to me. Maybe its my fault, since last time ive invested on crypto, did x7 in 11 months... But that was a long time ago, was big for me because was a good investment, but not even that good because i invested a little amount, like a thousand or so. And went on biting my nails for at least 9 months😅

unknowngloomth

And you obviously can't math. If you wanna strike it rich. You have to risk big in low market cap. You absolute 🤡 Plus, take a look at hyperliquid moat. ETH barely hit a new ATH from its 2021 ATH. Worst investment ever. BTC, SOL and BNB blew ETH out of water. Even XMR did. Get out...

theskyalreadyfell217

So let me get this straight. Some of these super majors like Exxon, Chevron, etc., are going to have to add BTC to their balance sheets to be able to pay Iran?

mmastropiero

They are not important to the most decentralized monetary network in the world, at all. >I Wish they weren't!!! Unfortunately, they are highly influential people. I agree that they mean nothing to the network, but most of the world doesn't know about Bitcoin, therefore we have to teach them. Unfortunately, people like these are doing that job poorly. No. Bitcoin doesn't give a duck about your favourite diet either. >I agree, it's not my point to make Bitcoin vegan, it's exactly the opposite; stop linking carnism to BTC. Again, Bitcoin nor anyone else cares what you of or don't akshually need Bitcoin to be... >I think you're just being rude now. I'm here to have a conversation, if you really don't care just stop talking dude. Lol. This all because of their diet? Well, if they are THAT WRONG about Bitcoin and carnism...maybe they're analysis on other Bitcoin-related topics is also myopic.

tidjou

Are there activities on the network that supports that iran is taking payments in BTC? I would check but i don't know how

VibinNoodle

No.. BTC will likely go under $60k in the following months (just my opinion ofc). Everything is going shit rn, oil supply shock will hit this month, this will push prices up and more ppl will be forced to sell, cuz they'll probably need money to repay loans, pay bills, etc..

BrooklynNeinNein_

Triple what No but seriously, if you think millionaires invest into BTC, then it sounds like a pretty good investment

northcasewhite

Or they could have bough all the BTC before Iran got hold of it.

Kurosaki56843

Easy - you go to the store and pay with crypto just as easily you pay with your current bank card. And I do mean this in the terms of accepting directly BTC, ETH and stablecoins, not converting them to the dollar or euro amount..

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chubs66

Oh, well no you have my attention. If a slightly renowned BS artist thinks BTC will die, it's as good as done.

yell0w8

BTC utilities will finally be found on the moon and the mars...

Terepin123

Back told Carreyrou that whoever Satoshi is, he wouldn’t sell and would pass on to his heirs, which Carreyrou took to mean that’s Back’s plan for his BTC

AdPrevious5886

Im definitely not taking you seriously lol. Zoom out. How much higher you really think that HYPE you talking about will go? Or how much time will it stay? You cant compare ETH or BTC growing any of these coins nowadays, not even SOL, and if you do, one of two, youre a delusional or youre a gambler.

AdPrevious5886

Nah thats not for me anymore.. even if i wait 3-4 years, with the little money i can invest, at this price, the returns would be not worth the waiting, fr I really think BTC is great since i learned about it on 2018, and had my piece of it between 2020 and 2021, but nowadays i think its just for the people that been holding for more than 5 years or for those who already have big money to invest in it, like millionaires or big companies.

bitusher

Simply spinning up a non economic full node , A node that has no BTC secured by it and does not send and receive Bitcoin almost always helps no-one except a few exceptions 1) You are a developer and running node in a testnet /signet for testing 2) You are using a full node for a block explorer that is used like https://github.com/blockstream/esplora 3) You have incoming port open on 8333 (some isps and firewalls block this , have plenty of bandwidth , and an archival node that can perhaps help bootstrap new nodes Full nodes do not vote if they are non economic. Bitcoin's consensus is not a democracy where a majority of the nodes "vote" just by running a certain implementation or version. You vote by actually using your full node and enforcing the consensus rules with your UTXOs you secure and send and receive. Spinning up a sybil node is often a waste of time. This means you typically want to run a full node that is paired to a hardware wallet for best security. Something akin to HW wallet + sparrow and than core backend is a popular setup. Running software that fully validates all the rules like - https://bitcoincore.org/en/download/ Archival full nodes contain the full blockchain and allow new nodes to bootstrap from them . Current blockchain size is ~732GB for an archival node Pruned nodes can get down to around ~5 GB , and have all the same security and privacy benefits of archival nodes but need to initially download the whole blockchain for full validation before deleting it (It actually prunes as it validates) You are only truly p2p if you are running a full node . running light clients depend upon you trusting a middleman and typically only validate block headers. Light clients are exposed to many more threats full nodes are not. There are also privacy concerns with light clients that full nodes are secure against. The whitepaper only suggests SPV "light" nodes in the context of fraud alerts(proofs) existing but thus far none exist and therefore you shouldn't trust large amounts of btc with a light client.

Live_Employment_6611

I want BTC , please. Mining BTC...🫂

Ok_Pipe6417

The toll can be paid in anything but USD. Of all the financial instruments available to shippers or oil producers I find it extremely unlikely that BTC is going to find a use case here. Most likely Yuan and long established trust worthy escrow providers. 

TheGreatCryptopo

Any investment decision should be made as holding long term, minimum 5 years. Ease your mind back into it buy a portion now, not more than 50%. Then DCA back in when you feel comfortable, ETH and BTC is the way to go. All other coins is a crap shoot.

Majestic_Can_6363

Volatility isn't the real risk for beginners, emotional decision making is. The market doing -30% is fine if you don't sell. Start with BTC only, learn one platform properly, ignore everything else for 6 months. Nexo is decent for beginners - buy, earn yield, nothing complicated.

lexicon_riot

I haven't seen anything in here since the FT report from yesterday that explicitly mentions BTC.

KCConnor

Define "expensive." NiceHash has a hashrate marketplace. So does Braiins. The nice thing about open markets is that prices are more or less the same wherever you go to rent it right now due to supply/demand. You're going to pay about $33,000 per Exohash/sec per day. $33K per Exohash per day is the same as: $33 per Petahash per day $0.033 per Terahash per day Renting someone's Fluminer T3 rig that does 100T-hash will cost you about $3 a day, to rent a rig that sells now for around $1800 or so. And they're paying the electricity to run it as well. Residential electricity is anywhere from $0.10 to $0.40 per kilowatt hour, and that thing will chew up 1700 watts per hour, resulting in $3-$8 or so per day (unlikely someone with high electrical costs is renting such a unit but you get the point). You keep the BTC mined, and you don't have to maintain the machine or provide power.

stellarfirefly

Most small-scale miners are either lottery mining, or mining something other than BTC which has a better potential ROI, or yes most likely, losing money slowly. You have to scale up quite a bit and/or have extremely cheap electricity to see a daily or even monthly positive income.

oopssomething

Now that the wars are almost over and world peace has never been closer than now. Humanity focusing on space exploring and renewal energy. BTC will see new highs this month.

Old_Pilot6434

I think they use Coinbase to host their BTC, but I'm not sure.