BTC

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows. If these micro caps can exceed 100x growth from here, I will be able to retire my bloodline if I want to.

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows.

IdleHandsRapidFlight

People are delusional. Stagnant money is lost money.  Banks, or even big tech corporate stock has made 1000% plus dividends in the same time frame.  A weekly DCA of bitcoin since 2019 has only returned 200% and returns per cycle have decreased. People arbitrarily say things like "if you bought low and sold high, BTC was peak" which is asinine because the same is true with if you timed the market on anything...

Goldface_Pharaoh

Im doing the same thing. I think BTC might go down to 20k - 40k. And I will get to buy 1 or 2 bitcoin when that happens. Then I just wait until the price goes back up and sell enough to pay off the loan. If you can make the payments its all good. Plus this opportunity only comes once ever 4 years. Gotta have big nuts though. Its not for the easily shaken.

bimbobandit2016

Just need a god candle on BTC to flip sentiment completely. Adding around $10k in a week should do it

bbaked420XD

So ur telling us u have all ur money in BTC, eh?

CoinXtreme

It is true, BTC will raise in future

Em0tionisdeader

Right there with you. Could you imagine if Nano was the genesis instead of BTC? What would've happened if it was Nano Valve took a chance on in accepting for payments? No fees, no wait times just frictionless, decentralized payments accessible to anyone in the world.

freedomforallergo

You must be new, it's been dropping for 6 years (besides BTC and ETH)

Big_Floor281

I'm from Argentina, I really understand, but generally speaking, I use guttural words; that's what I can do to earn some money for now. Could you tell me how much it would take to become a millionaire by buying BTC? Thanks.

ds3101

Every week I’m buying KAS (Kaspa), SOL, and BTC. I weight my weekly DCA something like 90% BTC, 8% KAS, 2% SOL

Fiat128sl

Yep… will be redrawing equity in my home loan for BTC in Sept and throwing it in. That portion of the home loan being used as an investment will be tax deductible then we keep repaying the payments as we have been and sell the BTC (or most of it) in 2029… home loan gets paid off and we get the profits (after tax). Only borrow what you can afford to “lose”, will only be a loss if BTC doesn’t do anything ever again.

Character_Alfalfa439

Patiently waiting for BTC to break its previous ATH.

heinzmoleman

I took out a HELOC a long time ago to buy BTC. No regrets. Never sold the BTC though, I made sure the payments were affordable.

biggest_guru_in_town

ETH,XRP,SOL. Blue chips only. No shitcoins. No high risk. I'm not rich nor in a first world country. Shitcoin stacking is suicide. 60% BTC 30% ETH 10% anything else. I'm thinking about what survives Ina decade. I'm not after profits. I am treating them as assets to be accumulated. I'm only after bears. The original intended purpose of crypto, not fiat.

TastyTrading

BTC bout to finally MOON!!! Load up boys, this is the crypto winter. Didn’t realize we just needed to strap up to a rocket!!! 🤣 🚀🚀🚀

Alive-Yak9875

YES it is. I willl buy your BTC if you are chicken

Far_Tiger_2862

The whole BTC cycle is like 3 steps forward 2 steps backward, in order to test new ATH/ATL. Average people get caught up in the noise and forget how the cycles work. Don’t be average people.

PersonalityTotal2107

Cosmos currently, probably getting some Chainlink and Avalanche this week but mostly accumulating more BTC ETH and SOL

Arphinator

BTC is supposed to fix the monetary system, not drive you into its greedy arms.

Few-Engineering9803

Take a look at BTC's 10 year CAGR and tell me it's hilarious.

BQbaobao

For all the people always wondering what news caused XYZ, I recently came across a website called Financial Juice. Finally made me feel like I’m not completely in the dark every time BTC spikes (or any other major indices / commodities etc for that matter). It’s usually a few minutes lagged so you can’t really trade the info, but jt helps me to process what to do next. I suppose there probably a paid version without the time lag but I’m too cheap.

LibertyWithLiquidity

Saylor so mad at the 32 BTC debatte, that he probably bought another 3,200 coins to prove a point.

lotekjunky

When you look at the quarterly for SOLBTC, what do you see? I see a fallimg knife about to lose 30% against BTC. https://preview.redd.it/apvmsigkjb7h1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d9ba0d3bc9c423ac98adf4b7df8313fc0e81c095

financeguruIB

Yes. I have lol. The ones i hold have a great chart. Both against $USD AND $BTC and they are already trending up. Not all alts will recover but with some due diligence and research you can find the ones that will do well next cycle.

lotekjunky

have you looked at the BTC pairs??????????

Alternative_Sky6274

My crystal ball says BTC going to be 1m at the end of the year when AI bubble pops but $TRUMP will be 10b.

Wild-Delay6212

Try to send money to Russia with your EU IBAN thru SEPA. chance it will never arrive. BTC is the best way to send value outside Europe.

Necessary-Summer-348

The real story isn't the seizure — it's that 10k BTC moved on-chain and didn't break anything. Network handled it, no cascade, no drama. That's the kind of stress test people forget to talk about when they worry about Bitcoin's resilience.

xcrunner2414

The first time I learned about Bitcoin, and bought a little was almost exactly 10 years ago. It was mid-2016, price was less than $1000. I discovered it indirectly, through my discovery of Tor and the darknet markets. Purely for satisfying my own curiosity, mind you, I didn't buy any hardcore drugs. In late 2016 I realized the exchange rate of Bitcoin had increased, and at the time I was actively investing in the stock market and so I viewed Bitcoin as a potential alternative investment, so I bought 1 or 2 whole BTC around Christmas-time 2016. I remember the dip that happened in the first week of January 2017, I think it was due to some China crackdown or something.

lotekjunky

Why would you accumulate ANY alts before BTC bottoms out?

Away-Ant7779

BTC ETH LINK thats it

justadud3x

Way too low reward. You need to up it to like 5BTC for someone to spend serious compute and time.

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC every single day the price doesn’t matter

spraif

it;s historic observation, there is clear cyclical behaviour of BTC, mainly driven by human psychology. It may be useless tomorrow but so are most things in life, if we decide they are useless

financeguruIB

Crazy bag right there. You will likely outperform BTC

financeguruIB

Nice. BTC maxi ?

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC everyday and chill price doesn’t matter

Intelligent_Net_2786

My other bags: BTC, Eth, LInk, Sol, Hype, XLM, ZEC, Tao

J5966358

Early 2017. Sold a small percentage in October last year. Bought back the same amount of BTC already and have some cash now. Took me three (or four?) cycles to understand how the sell button works apparently 😂 

AmazingfurnitureCT

90% BTC most everything else is a sh\*t coin

Constant_Wet69

HBAR, RENDER, LINK, Solana, INJ (Injective Protocol) Then I have some ETH and BTC

St0uty

> BTC can be obtained without getting it from somebody else, even when the last coin has been mined. Yeah you can also get nano (or any currency) from somebody else by getting a job and working for it

Anonimo1sdfg

BTC 25% ( in x2 etf BITX) BNB 20% ( in x2 etf XBNB) BGB 20% HYPE 15% OKB 10% SOL 10% ( in x2 etf SOLT)

Glittering-Local-147

BTC can be obtained without getting it from somebody else, even when the last coin has been mined. Thanks for playing

Popapalooza

XLM, TAO, BTC, XRP, HBAR, Chainlink

financeguruIB

True. BTC is king after all. Do you think it will hit a million by 2029

theenecros

Been around since Bitcoin was $10 in 2012, so 4 cycles. Mined my first one with my video card in 2 weeks in Slush's pool. A bit of advice? Step back and look at the bigger picture. Learn the 4 year cycles and plan accordingly, follow Plan B, he knows what's up. Treat BTC like real estate, there will only ever be 21 million, get you yours. Not going to lie, Bitcoin is a crazy roller-coaster ride. Pay for the ticket, take the ride. Keep diamond hands (I wish I did) and you will have something to show for it.

steppe5

You've been in crypto since 2011, which means that you should be a multimillionaire by now. Something tells me that you're not even close. Which explains your bitterness towards crypto. You could've bought BTC for $1 but you were too busy telling people that it's a scam. Oops.

financeguruIB

Fair. BTC will always be king. I hope your plan works bro. It usually does start the bull cycle

bb2074

By the time you’re 60 and messed up from working a lifetime. That BTC stash will be looking very good to you.

Acceptable-Leek1546

They’ve also severely underperformed BTC in the last 20 years. Depends on how far you zoom out.

azdcaz

I don’t think STRC will trade back to par in the short term. However, a nice BTC pump will put it back to $100 as the underlying asset will make STRC more attractive (less risky).

azdcaz

Looks like a small dot. Would be funny if he bought 32 BTC.

baIIern

\-10k. People will have to pay money to get rid of their BTC

azdcaz

You can see all the transactions clearly in the BTC ledger. However, that doesn’t mean you know who owns which wallet unless they’ve been doxed or shared it publicly.

Upbeat_Acanthaceae41

There was also conflicting information on tax implications if the lending platform converts your BTC to a wrapped version. Another concern is that I’m not sure how my crypto tax software would handle any of this.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I really want to find a positive, but it's gonna be really hard today. BTC just had a golden opportunity for a rally these last few days, and missed the mark. It had started to bounced off $60K. Stocks had a bullish finish to the week. Even Gold started to rally. The dollar started to slide back. The clarity act is just around the corner. And more importantly, the big news is there might actually be a signing of a deal happening between the US and Iran this weekend. Oil prices dropped drastically on the anticipation that the war could end. A perfect storm for a rally for the weekend. And a real chance to at least try to retake $70K. But despite all that, BTC still failed to even break $65K. This might mean that the drop from $84K to $59K might have taken too much wind out of the market.

damianoko31

My strategy is that I want to borrow and mortgage Bitcoin so I can afford my own land where I believe I will build my home. Otherwise, I am young and I see BTC as an asymmetric bet from which I could somehow afford to live in my house anyway ✌️

Blade_Runner_69

Stocks are garbage. BTC is hard money.

FromThePits

Okay, lets expand to another asset like gold. If you own 1%(210.000 bitcoin) of the total supply of BTC you will forever have 1% If you own 1% of the total unearthed gold, you will only have 0.5% after 65 years (stock to flow ratio) These metrics applies to any amount of asset you own of each. BTC > Gold, because of these indisputable facts. Also applies to almost everything else in terms of hard assets holding value. Eventually you will get it too, I hope for your own sake. Or maybe(probably?) not? Thats fine with me too.

MorriceGeorge

Nicely done 👌 That's what, about 0.012 BTC a year? Or a roughly 1 in 255 chance a year of hitting a block? That's not bad at all. Care to share total costs of the build / any pics? The rise in solo mining is something that makes me smile: feels like Bitcoin getting back to it's roots a little (though not even remotely profitable, of course).

FloralSunset2

What is the basis behind decision to hold BTC? It is unclear from what you wrote.

Alive-Yak9875

Exactly, I think we agree: ""He is in a very uncomfortable position now. **New MSTR issuance will not be accretive anymore. It will be dilutive as we saw this morning**, the whole shtick doesn't work anymore. The only way this works is if he can issue more STRC since the debt is "not counted" in the ledger of their "sats per share" accounting. **He can't issue more STRC unless the price goes above 99.** This can happen later in the week once the people show up to arbitrage for the upcoming dividend (record date is 15th June). This will be his one last kick of the can down the road since I don't think it works beyond that time frame and STRC stays low. **The only question is will the market even give him another week (STRC may not crack 99 despite the dividend).** The problem with sats per share metric is that an increase in BTC "price" cannot impact it positively or negatively. So he has dug himself into a hole. He can't just say, "look BTC is up". So now the whole thing relies on this lynchpin called STRC. I wrote about this elsewhere, just search "Instruments like STRC are why events like Black Monday happen." I was surprised when Schiff used the same terminology. Where is my boat in the Bahamas lol..."" [Fit\_Equal6932](https://www.reddit.com/user/Fit_Equal6932/)

Live_Jazz

They will continue to fund the reserve with common stock sales to keep it around that level. We can reasonably debate how sustainable \*that\* is (and I have mixed feelings), but it’s a different topic and the value of 32 BTC isn’t meaningful in that context anyway. The sale itself proves flexibility on the previous policy of “never sell”, which was a problem in and of itself for debt issuers. As per my prior answer and the quotes above. That was the point.

Crnorukac

Bigger picture is that they are selling AI stocks to the public, while in the background loading BTC. Stay humble and stack sats, ignore the noise.

Alive-Yak9875

* $1B in cash won't last till January. * If 32 BTC is " a fraction of a drop in the bucket.", then it doesn't prove exit liquidity

Live_Jazz

They have over $1B in reserve for that purpose, the 32 BTC sale notwithstanding. People don’t seem to reason how much cash, and how much Bitcoin Strategy actually has. 32 BTC was a fraction of a drop in the bucket.

Live_Jazz

He actually just commented on it at BTC Prague: “If the company's policy is that we won't sell the Bitcoin, then the credit won't have value and the equity won't have value…” There’s more if want to research the topic further. CFO has almost spoken on this at length in various interviews.

Snorki_Cocktoasten

10,000 and 5000 will never be seen again. This post is insane. Considering how wide adoption is, BTC is on fire sale at $65k. You'll be crying 4-5 years from now if you don't get in at 65k... True opportunity for generational wealth, imo. Especially as the AI bubble pops and people return to BTC

Numerous_Ruin_4947

I concur. People keep downvoting BNB / TRX-related posts. Yes, those projects are centralized, but at least they kept up with BTC. Honestly, it makes me feel slightly less regarded that I also hold BNB / TRX when I look at my ETH holdings.

Live_Jazz

It’s both things. Selling a nominal amount to fund distributions proves they can and will do that if needed. The proceeds from 33 BTC isn’t enough to make a dent in the actual distribution, but it tells debt issuers and regulators that the liquidity is accessible.

originalrocket

Sells BTC, market spooked.  Buys up the dip. Wen moon though?  Isreal just told the US to shut up war to continue.

HSuke

The new part is that both last week's BTC purchase and this one are both dilutive to MSTR value. They're basically decreasing the overall value of the company. More importantly, it goes against the logic of their own new guidelines they released last month. Why the hell are they buying BTC when both their cash reserve is running out AND when it hurts their bottom line to do so because it's a dilution?

HSuke

This company is run by clowns. This is going to be dilutive to MSTR again like the previous purchase. Enterprise mNAV is under 1.22, and they said they were going to sell BTC when it's under. Otherwise, it dilutes the value of the company shares. And the cash reserve is still only 6 months after next Monday's ex-div for STRC, which is going to fall to $94 when it's supposed to be sitting near $100.

SYNDK8D

Depends on what kind of risk you’re willing to take. They probably tell you to stay away from it because of how volatile it is, and in the long term VOO is probably a safer bet. Or, they don’t understand crypto enough and they just stick with what they know. If you’re young enough and want to shoot for high growth and high risk, then by all means take BTC for a spin. Otherwise, stick with VOO with low risk and low-medium growth.

RetiredAvocado

Sold 704 BTC in 2022 for a loss to offset taxable gains.

Sinisteris

That's like 10 000 BTC.

ShittingOutPosts

Yea, I’m as big of a Bitcoin bull as you’ll ever meet, but let’s be realistic here. If you live in a developed nation, 1 BTC will most likely not be enough to achieve full financial independence, yet alone buy you mansions in 14 years. I’m sure it’ll be worth a lot to most people’s standards, but not enough to own a castle. I hope I’m wrong.

Suspicious-Holiday42

BTC was above 70k in times when there was no deal, now its in 60k era, what is he talking about

SiweL_EttaL

BTC would be alive without them. The total of them is not that brutal, there are bigger ones, they just hyped as hell.

N0-name1

Yes BTC is pricing in the deal since it’s up a whopping +0.15%😅

TheresNoSecondBest

>Morpho? >Borrow €80k against 2.2 BTC at ~1.24% APY (Morpho) That's not bitcoin, mate. You have to exchange your BTC for a shitcoin token created by a shitcoin casino, running on top of another shitcoin. At that point, **you won't own any real bitcoin**. And for the whole duration of the loan, you'll hope the shitcoin won't lose peg to bitcoin, something we've witnessed before.

FaizalSiddiqui

Nobody knows if it will be a success or when? But I believe personally that BTC will grow in the following years. But even in my believe in that I have to say I can not be certain (nobody can)

baIIern

>The version of Bitcoin Core available back then displayed the following recommendation when encrypting a wallet: Nothing is showing. Did the owner promise you a much higher award and now you're trying to offer 0.5 BTC so you can get it?

daddysgirl794

Yeah "dreadful" is probably pushing it, but when you consider the fact that people who held from 2016-2021 made 10000% on their BTC, and people who held from 2021-present made less than 100%, anyone today hoping for the generational returns of old is going to be disappointed. Those days are simply gone.

Alive-Yak9875

Saylor has 845,256 BTC = \~4.22% of circulating supply

daddysgirl794

People who held from 2016-2021 made 10000% on their BTC, people who held from 2021-present made less than 100%. Dreadful is probably pushing it, but the generational returns of old are no doubt a thing of the past at this point.

Bentspoonso

investing in BTC is much safer than in those crappy altcoinswhich by the way is where I put my money and now i've been stuck trying to figure out how to get out of it for years

PeteyPab305

I agree w/ you, BTC will never be the more than a settlement layer, unless we want to drop fees, and price points, using it as collateral for what I assume will eventually be a stable coin "everyday" commerce layer, alongside RWA's and their associated networks, of who will win idk, it will probably be a bifurcated market. At-least that's what the Gov. is pitching in the Clarity Act. I don't believe the digital gold thesis, I don't believe the defi money thesis, I think it's literally a peg for the entire crypto market, because it's wealth that has already been tied up in the network, all the equipment, power consumption, etc.

PeteyPab305

IDK, I'm holding out to see a dead cat which I think is happening rn, then a move to high 50's than up, it takes months to get out of a bear market, and if the fed hikes rates, I wouldn't expect a parabolic recovery for a while, SPCX is a liquidity black hole, people chasing quick money, on literal shake-down, won't realize the stock market is broken, until they lose and all these large companies use retail money to build out USDC positions, that's what the government wants, they want our reallocate bond market domestically, when the clarity act passes is when BTC will regain value. I'm just DCA'ing like I would any asset, im closing in a small position about 0.1BTC at ruffly 70k avg cost, and most of the network is underwater, usually signals a bottom, so we are close, but idk if it won't just chop sideways til macro conditions are better. JUST IMO.

ethsy

I’m interested as well, if only for learning and gaining more knowledge about this. Is there anything else I need to know besides the hash? But what stops from someone just cracking the password hash and just getting away with the whole 16 BTC?

rocket_beer

Today it does, yes. By the time that 1 BTC = some shitty fiat (USD) of $225k, that shitty fiat (USD) will have inflated to the point that it would only equal a scooter. This is the inverse relationship between time and inflation for that shitty fiat (USD). No one said that BTC wasn’t going to increase in value over time. Only thing said was that USD would become inflated by that time. You seem to not understand that. I did not say anything about the value of 1 BTC. I said how much of my BTC would buy me by the time that 1 BTC will equal $225k in shitty USD. Read man, read

DwightsShirtGuy

Again, think about what you’re saying. 1 BTC buys a whole hell of a lot more than a scooter. If you’re talking actually scooters, non-motorized, it currently buys hundreds. And you’re saying it’ll only buy 1 later. How is that not an enormous drop in value? I get what you’re trying to say but this is a terrible example that you didn’t think critically about.

TheRadishBros

You’re in the BTC subreddit- obviously the majority of posts will remain optimistic, regardless of where the current price is. As the content of posts will always be consistent, the main indicator is the volume of posts, which is definitely down from the peak.

rocket_beer

1 BTC = 1 BTC, always USD will drop in value over time, always

DwightsShirtGuy

So, your BTC will have dropped horrifically in value? Think about what you’re saying.

Sapper_Initiative538

Gonna cry more because i couldn't buy when it was $1000 = 1 BTC

FourScores1

Not disregarding if those funds were obtained nefariously, no centralized actor allows for money laundering by criminals and even the president and other governments. A problem BTC will have to solve before widespread adoption. 

Realistic_Aardvark40

I'd go with the red pill - unless I could also be provided with a reasonable guarantee that a substantial 2010 purchase would not negatively affect current BTC value significantly. After all, I would be rewriting history.