BTC

Happy_Discussion_536

There's BTC investors and there's BTC degens. The former buy when it's cheap like this and understand it will go back to being the best performing asset in history. The latter gets overleveraged, trying to guess which way it's going on a daily basis and gets blown the fuck up.

GateNk

Would you argue that BTC has currently been useful in lifting people out of poverty? If the incentive structures promotes hoarding only to dump after great appreciation—because regardless of all the grand ideals circulating around crypto forums for years now, this has been the only true behaviour that has stuck—then this is effectively a transfer of wealth from the poorest (who would in all likeliness come to need an inflation-proof asset) to the wealthiest (who can afford to lose what they invest and can patiently wait for the price to appreciate, to no harm to their livelihood). What becomes of MicroStrategy if they suddenly become the world's wealthiest company? What becomes of the world? Will it be a better one? 🤷🏽‍♂️ It's a zero-sum game.

Rare_Rich6713

Honestly you’re not alone l a lot of people who started accumulating in 2022–2023 are feeling the same thing right now. What you’re experiencing is just the classic mid-cycle chop where BTC cools off, alts bleed, and everyone starts questioning the whole strategy. SOL, LINK, TAO, TRAC, PENDLE, AVAX, SUI that’s a legit list of high-conviction alts. and I think you should add some XMN too. None of those are dead projects

Steezy_Steve1990

That’s fair, and I take my comment about it being useless back. However, it’s still not a good store of value. It’s hard to move and you can’t really transact with it. Its scarcity is what gives gold its store of value. However, BTC also has scarcity.

Steezy_Steve1990

Fair, and that’s your choice. I just feel like people are so short sighted in the market. BTC is still by far the best performing asset in the past decade but if people can’t 10x their investments in 3 months then it’s dead.

Steezy_Steve1990

Ya, but that’s a mad max scenario. Gold and BTC will be the least of your worries. We’d probably go back to the barter system of trading good and services instead of trying to mine gold and carry it around.

Judges_Your_Post

The supply cap and inflation rate of BTC is know ahead of time, whereas with stocks it is not. BTC can't go out of business in the same way as a company (in fact, most companies). That's really all you need to know.

TheDirtyOnion

He seems like a dumbass to me.  Basically he has funded a ton of recent BTC purchases by borrowing in fiat.  The company basically has zero income other than the appreciation of BTC.  So now he is stuck with near term liabilities owed in fiat, and the only realistic way of servicing those obligations going forward is either (i) sell more debt or equity, which is only going to compound the problem down the line, or (ii) sell BTC.  The more BTC drops in value in the short term, the more he will have to sell to service/refinance the debts.   Imagine how things looks a year from now if BTC is sittinf at 60k (which is certainly possible even if you think it is unlikely).  The company will have a maybe 2 billion of obligations owed in fiat due over the next year?  And basically zero dollars left.  I doubt investors are going to be lining up to buy more equity given the risk of even further dillution.  Debt investors are going to be sour based on the lack of cash flow, and if they do provide financing the interest rates are going to be awful.  So selling BTC at 60k might become the least bad option, and it would require selling like 25k BTC at 60k to cover their required interest payments for a year?  That can't be great for the pricw of BTC either....

NecessaryInternet603

Crypto is intriguing especially Bitcoin BTC. Once you understand the concept of a permanently defined limited supply that sucks up any fiat currency which has the tendency to inflate then you are on the path to better understanding and should not be bothered with the day to day drama. Buy and hold whatever amount you want but the key is holding. Don't plan on tapping any BTC gains until you absolutely want to, e.g., buy young and sell when you're much older, and give it time to suck up more fiat currency. Then while you've done that start your traditional journey down the conventional financial investment path. Use both TradFi and DeFi to build your investment portfolio.

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Less_Foundation5024

if 1% of Vanguards AUM is allocated to BTC that's $150 BILLION in new liquidity.

Chirok9

OP is asking why Leverage is a bad idea. Three things can ruin a man. Liquor, ladies and leverage. - Charlie Munger Never borrow money to buy BTC. It rarely works out in your favor.

digital__bits

How can you say that gold is useless ? Basically without gold, BTC wouldn't exist because gold is used in ASICs. Just like that.

Clear_Hawk_6187

>Oh yes zero confidence transactions that most buisness had zero confidence in and thus refused because you could not be confident you would get your coins because of people double spending There's no known instance of malicious double spending so far on other chains. Besides, if you are after someone's coffee I don't think that's the best way to make a career. Businesses don't use BTC for small transactions anyway and zero conf is not functional in BTC. That's why there's no confidence in it at all. >That's what your butt hurt about? If people gave a shit about a instant transaction crypto then Nano would have taken off by now. Absolutely, but instead BTC and crypto is just a speculation for greedy fools.

Prabuddha-Peramuna

I’m not scared at all. Drops are the only reason long-term buyers actually get wealthy. When BTC is falling, that’s not a signal to panic that’s the opportunity window opening. Smart money *never* buys at the top when everything feels safe and euphoric. They accumulate during fear, uncertainty, and boredom. Bear markets are where wealth gets built, not during the spikes. My approach is simple, I use **value averaging** instead of regular DCA.The lower Bitcoin goes, the *more* I buy. If it drops another 20%, I increase the position again. You end up accumulating way more BTC at much better prices without emotionally chasing green candles.If your mindset is long-term, corrections aren’t threats they’re discounts. The key thing is knowing your plan If you believe in Bitcoin 10–15 years out, then these drops aren’t danger… they’re an invitation.Short-term volatility is the fee. Long-term upside is the reward.

Illustrious_Lie_954

This setup pretty much sums up where BTC is right now not broken, but not convincing either. The bigger issue is that none of the short-term signals matter unless price can get back above the 20EMA cluster. Every reflex bounce we’ve had since the 126k peak has died exactly at that zone, so until that changes the trend is still in prove it mode. What *is* interesting is the compression between the 86.5k support shelf and that 88.4k resistance pocket. BTC rarely stays in this kind of tight volatility band for long. If it loses 85k with momentum, we’re probably revisiting the 80k wick area. If it reclaims 91k, the entire tone shifts from “controlled bleed” to “base-building. Overall feels like a market waiting for a catalyst more than a market choosing direction. Not financial advice just watching the levels like everyone else.

cryptofan9910

The system works through coordination between SYMMIO and market makers (also called solvers), who fulfill quotes on behalf of users. For example, if a user wants to open a 10x long on BTC, a market maker executes that order for them, and the position is then opened on-chain. In general, QuickSwap Perpetuals supports the same trading pairs as Binance currently 600+ assets. The only requirement is that the asset must be listed on a major CEX so that a market maker can reliably fill the order.

ImpossiblePeak1722

I work and I get my salary. I pay tax on that. Tax is a socially correct thing to do. With my after-tax salary I go on a holiday and during my holiday in another part of the world I decide to trade BTC. I do a good trade and some profit. I made that trade with my already taxed salary money AND while being abroad. So my government wants to take a piece of this profit, for what exactly? Why do I owe anything else to the government since I already paid my taxes home? Trading should be tax-free for privaze citizens (not corporations). Getting paid in crypto should be taxed, same as any salary. Sorr, in my view I see taxing private citizens on trading profit as theft. Trading profit up to certain treshold should be tax free.

MonkAfraid3048

My barber told me that his cousin was talking with a car dealer about BTC and another customer overheard them and said they should sell- it’s gonna get ugly. Thank me later that you heard it here first.

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Amber_Sam

>Now think of a world where value is abundant due to AI. No human labours but just world of material things. People don’t even hv to work. In that world what purpose does BTC serve 😏At some point even currencies become pointless This all in 3 years? Whatever you're smoking, I desperately need it too. Even in the next 100 years, you'll need to transfer value over time and space. Even if everything is done by robots and AI, **there always will be something extra people will desire**. Be it your own island, mountain, river, human piano teacher, human (legal or not) services, etc. Or just to travel the world and staying at the BEST places. Because if all the 5 star beach front hotels are free, they are full of junkies. I mean unless you prefer this kind of company.

Fluffy_Cookie_2023

I checked too, you can stake SOL, ETH, BTC, DOGE, and get daily returns easily

Carbuncle2024

Financial Press: Bank of Japan considering higher rates just as the Fed is expected to make another cut, this will bring the interest rates of the two nations closer together. Driving the news: Bank of Japan governor Kazuo Ueda teased a potential rate hike yesterday, saying the central bank would weigh the "pros and cons" at its next policy meeting later this month, Reuters reported. His comments led two-year Japanese yields to spike to their highest level since 2008 as traders priced in a 76% chance of an interest rate increase. In response, traders sold off assets to pay back the yen they borrowed. Bitcoin tumbled overnight, triggering about $1 billion in liquidations. ******* Ergo, local US buyers believe in established BTC historic trends, but modern global finance rules the trades. Billionaires making Short trades, governments impacting global interest rates affecting their government bonds, and year-end profit taking all points to lower prices. 😎

Leather-Cash6400

That's exactly what I wanted to say: when BTC drops, it's giving you an opportunity to buy at a low price.

nihongos

Not sure why I'm being downvoted? Anyone who invested in this bull market a year ago has lost money. It's the truth, but you guys seem to be delusional. No you're not early. No BTC won't hit a million ever. Let me know if you need anymore truth nukes

FunKOR

I went to Inside Bitcoin in 2014. I always say "if I had bought BTC then at $800", etc. I would have sold when it hit $20,000 and would be sitting here regretting just like now.

Mechprince

I personally don’t care for gold. But you cannot ignore the fact that it’s been considered valuable for thousands of years. Humans have trusted it forever. That longevity and trust are the reason for gold’s valuation. It’s not a practicality thing. Heck, BTC is not even that practical. The fees are expensive and the transaction times are slow. And it wastes a ton of electricity. So if we lose all our technology tomorrow and go back to the Stone Age, then BTC goes to 0. Gold probably stays valuable.

NotCoolFool

Have you ever witnessed a Bear market is the real question. This ain’t a Bear market for BTC or ETH it’s a correction, for the rest of the Alt/shitcoins it’s a stagnation because EVERYONE knows they are dead and it’s just a game of hot potato to see who is left holding the bags. A bear market would indicate that at some point in the future some of the shit/meme/alt coins will be worth something when clearly they won’t.

Emergency_Egg1281

Pressure point for BTC = 70K. BTC goes under that number and utility tokens are going to run. Look for gains on ALGO , XRP , XLM and a couple other big boys. BEFORE end of this month could see a pump. Still may dip more first but my bags are packed waiting for this one.

lardarz

It makes me somewhat happy that I can buy my monthly 0.X BTC at a considerably lower price than I could in May

Timely-Weekend3192

I do not see a reason to think about selling. Actually, the opposite... I invest with conviction, and the dips are just another opportunity to buy more at a lower price. My advice is not to value BTC in FIAT money. They are worthless compared to the value of BTC. In fact BTC is the only asset that is **deflationary. Just diamond hands it, and you will be grateful for that in 10 years. I promise you.**

Leather-Cash6400

No one can ever accurately predict the market. I'm a long term holder, and my average BTC price is low, so I'm not worried at all. I just wanted to understand everyone's mindset.

BQbaobao

Vanguard protected me from myself buying BTC so I bought mstr at 425 instead. Happy customer.

Steezy_Steve1990

It’s only value is to make “pretty” things that you only think are valuable because you’ve been told gold is valuable and prestigious. You really think the use of gold is worth 30 trillion? Your point just makes gold sound dated and not practical for our modern tech heavy society. The point of BTC is to have a way to transact a store of value borderless that can’t be printed to oblivion and isn’t controlled by government bodies with political agendas.

nihongos

Don't own a single BTC thankfully, just pointing it out :)

devCheckingIn

Honestly it's been doom and gloom for all of 2025. The few short-lived ATHs didn't bring much relief. BTC hasn't been in price discovery since the election and the only reason it kept afloat in 2025 was all of these treasury company buys which will probably be no more.

Amimir1992

I feel great. If btc rises in price I buy. If I lower the price I buy more. It doesn't bother me that there is the possibility of seeing BTC below 40 thousand dollars. If it happens I will buy everything I can at that moment. I want that as a Christmas gift.

Aanetz

Not everyone in the planet have access to US stocks. For some places with constant hyperinflation, it's better off buying stables or BTC/ETH. Some people who want more privacy & outside the system prefer XMR / ZEC. So, yeah. BTC & Crypto isn't going away. It still serves some niche market.

BunnyKomac

While the market is down, It's best to focus and load the dips on good quality projects, projects that you like or farm airdrops for upcoming projects while most are sleeping. I've personally been loading up on Solana, BTC and farming the Bitlock airdrop. It's a long term process obviously and It's crucial that you can handle the red candles and seeing your money fluctuate. Airdrops are pretty risk free most of the time though.

Motor_Fail3789

I'm not entirely sure how exactly Kraken distinguishes between them. But in any case, we're talking at least about BTC, XRP, and Stablecoins here.

Steezy_Steve1990

Same with gold. Would you seriously buy gold with the idea of never selling it for cash? Most people only buy gold ETFs which is just a number in a computer. Gold has no value other than “well my illiterate ancestors said it’s shinny and important”. How is gold any more valuable than BTC? You’re not going to store bricks of gold in your house and buy anything with it. It’s more useless than BTC.

BiblicalElder

I don't expect BTC to drop to zero, but do expect it to rise by 80%, and also fall by 80% While BTC is not gold, I see some similarities, they are both shiny assets that don't rust. BTC also is not encumbered by physicality as gold is, while gold does not need the internet like BTC does I've taken out multiples of my initial investment, and will ride the rest to zero (if it comes to that)

mickalawl

They sold stock. To cover their massive debts and zero income. The 1.44B reserve is in USD lol. They bought a token amount of BTC. Not 1.4B worth lol.

Clear_Hawk_6187

>Buddy its traded across the globe and is a world wide asset that is tracked right next to indexes and oil prices. How much more scale could you want. That's only the proof of the scale of global stupidity and greed. >Satoshi programed bitcoin with a 10 min finalization timer, that takes an hour to verify. Pretty sure he did not intend it to be used to buy coffee at the gas station. Zero conf was a thing for small transactions and that was ruined soon after segwit introduction. As a matter of fact, segwit itself was a bait and switch to stop raising blocklimit, which essentially crippled bitcoin forever. That's what stopped us from buying coffee today with BTC.

Traditional-Tax-4817

I’m heavily invested in BTC, would love the opportunity to buy at even cheaper prices. Even if that means suffering heavy losses.

Tim-Rocket

If Binance goes down, and your BTC is controlled by them, (still in your Binance account) then yes. You'd loose it. *Not your keys not your coins*. It is that simple. Yes, cold storage is the safest way to go. Though, cold storage can be implemented in several ways. The most popular method (according to what I've seen in reddit/X so far) is to use a *hardware wallet*. But, cold storage really means *having control over a pair of keys which have never been on a device connected to the internet*. This can be achieved by generating your keys on an offline computer with a recently installed OS, and formatting/reinstalling the OS it before it ever connects to the internet again. If you ever want to use that address you can use an *air gap wallet* or, generating a new pair of keys, offline, and send whatever you did not spend to the newly created address. If you know the basics of how BTC works, you wouldn't need to ask these questions. Please DYOR, verify, this is what this tech is about. I've highlighted in italic the things I consider most important to get a basic understanding as a user. GL.

Amimir1992

Relax, it was just a way of saying that if it happens I will take full advantage of the fall without caring if BTC falls 70%. I will always buy.

Low-Equipment-2621

Yes, cold storage ist the way to go. Otherwise those BTC are not yours, they are managed by the exchange and your money depends on their competence in terms of IT security. A gamble you want to avoid. So go cold storage, there are many tutorials available. Watch a ton of them until you understand how it works, don't rely on a single one and get scammed.

Aerocryptic

1 year ago everyone was high on hopium, shilling the worst (meme)coins you could find on the market. Today it’s pretty much doom & gloom just 2 months past BTC’s ATH. I wonder what will be the state of the market and sentiment next year

Omnislash99999

Shortsighted not to have done this earlier, gives them time now though to see if BTC picks up up 2026 though

jumpinthewatersnice

I'll trade you 3 chickens, half a pig and some cow rump for 1 BTC.

Suspicious-Holiday42

I shouldnt have sold my BTC yesterday

Training-Extent9606

Just stack and Chill BTC is going no where

Mechprince

BTC market cap is literally in the trillions tho. At that point, it’s competing against big tech giants like GOOG and NVDA. At least with stocks, you can read earnings reports, SEC filings, and other financial data to help you determine whether a stock is a good investment or not. With crypto? You’re going off of vibes.

DryMyBottom

look at that beautiful green on BTC charts

Superchief440

Interestingly, when the price of Bitcoin crashed a couple days ago the only place I had money available to buy was in my RH account. I mistakenly placed a market order, which filled almost $1,500 over the current price. I couldn't believe how wide the spread was, almost 2%. This spread was much worse than my fat-finger trade! So much for commission free trading on RH. Their spreads on BTC are so wide I think it is maybe twice the fee charged by Strike. I guess I will keep searching for lower cost options.

Sp99nHead

I'm not even a big fan of gold but it's been a store of value for thousands of years because humans like shiny things. If BTC couldn't be converted to $, it would be worthless.

SeriousGains

If you like 30k BTC maybe. I doubt many people here want that.

DrSpeckles

Oh great, now all that needs to happen is BTC needs to keep going up to support this. What could possibly go wrong? Miners operate on razor thin margins these days. No one is making 30% on their capital.

RonMexico16

I don’t interpret this as bullishly as you do. While he did buy ~$11 million more worth of BTC, he also created a USD cash reserve worth over 100x that with this recent dilution. Seems to acknowledge some fragility to BTC compared to the USD when it comes to paying dividend obligations.

Carsmes

Oh, we started early with doomer posts this time. Nice, nice. Reddit will be the best indicator for re-entering BTC positions, so following closely.

Steezy_Steve1990

Bro, it just hit a new ATH in October. Zoom out. Yes it’s volatile but no one who has held BTC for more than 2 years isn’t in profit. I get the argument that shit coins are dead and retail ain’t buying our bags but BTC and whatever alts institutions adopt will do very well longterm.

elidevious

BTC is easier to time and no need to guess if it’s going to be the industry leader long into the future.

Jonyesh-2356

Think of the reason why central banks prints. Why we call BTC, store of value. Now think of a world where value is abundant due to AI. No human labours but just world of material things. People don’t even hv to work. In that world what purpose does BTC serve 😏At some point even currencies become pointless

Jonyesh-2356

Think of the reason why central banks prints. Why we call BTC, store of value. Now think of a world where value is abundant due to AI. No human labours but just world of material things. People don’t even hv to work. In that world what purpose does BTC serve 😏At some point even currencies become pointless

Jonyesh-2356

Think of the reason why central banks prints. Why we call BTC, store of value. Now think of a world where value is abundant due to AI. No human labours but just world of material things. People don’t even hv to work. In that world what purpose does BTC serve 😏

Vivid_Ad_7348

Ye thats what I am thinking, maybe not a right time to sell, I do not feel overexsposed, the plan was to convert everything into BTC, I am in here for a long run, so hopefully when dominance falls Ill be able to get something more out of my alts and then convert it (alts high, btc lower—>seems like a perfect spot to jump into btc and than start accumulating it over time…its a long way to get a full one haha). Thanks for the advice brother, appreciate it

Vivid_Ad_7348

I guess little money inflow also doesnt help, when crypto is trending all over social media (which last few months isnt) I think retail comes in, a lot of people jump into alts, and make price go higher. But when BTC price is dropping, people are scared and crypto is not trending. Its a bit paradoxal

hawkeye224

Everybody says so but then either people are too scared because sentiment is very bad and they think BTC may fail for good, or they wait for even lower prices and miss it

Bionic_Push

If you are ready to wait 4-5 years, do it. If you have a 1 year time horizon, don't. "usually bounces back within a year" tells me you haven't been into BTC for long and haven't really done your homework though.

watch-nerd

And what happens post-2026 if BTC isn't up enough?

Minimum-Exchange7250

For me; Rule 1: buy BTC for at least 8 years more Rule 2: find a way to buy more

DryMyBottom

etf is going to be taxed way less than BTC where I live, starting from 2026

Minimum-Exchange7250

ETFs are fine, but I live in Turkey I’ve experienced real inflation. I don’t know where you live, but you should check BTC against the Turkish Lira 😅

ajarbyurns1

I think MSTR is really only for short term traders (and degens). Holders are better off just buying BTC.

Accomplished_Bird166

There are several ways to look at Bitcoin. 1. As a Short term investment for scraping profits from near-term market movements. 2. Leveraged trading to get multiple x returns with well timed volatility predictions. And 3. As a store of value long term. Unlike all other assets (real estate, paintings, gold, fine wine vintages who have unlimited supply as in new items can be created/build/mined indefinitely) Bitcoin has mathematical scarcity, utility as a means of exchange, and portability across time, space, and country borders without restriction. Knowing that government currencies will grow indefinitely, it’s a way to “freeze your value in time” so it can’t be diluted by future government/banking sector credit expansion policy. I also want to make clear that all of the above types of Bitcoin individuals are necessary to keep BTC healthy. Volatility is a good thing because it shows the asset is alive and desirable. For those that HODL, we believe in the fundamentally sound nature of the asset and see it as a way to store our limited time on earth, which is ultimately are scarcest resource from an individual point of view. TLDR: BTC is scarce and mathematically finite. All BTC traders and HODLR’s are necessary for BTC to thrive long term. BTC allows you to store your scarce limited human time on earth into the future. BTC hedges against inflationary government and banking monetary policy.

Metalicum

the BTC use case doesn't change with inflation slightly lower or higher, especially since central banks will work towards 2%. BTC is an alternative to banking, not a solution to inflation. I am not sure what kind of cheap goods you are talking about. An increase in productivity? sure, that it already happening.. somewhat.

widek7

Why buy the next 2× in BTC when NVDA already did 15× and still has real earnings growth? Crypto lost the ‘best risk/reward’ crown sometime in 2022. It can win it back, but it hasn’t yet. From 2015–2021 crypto was the single best performing asset on the planet almost every year. Since then it has lagged the Nasdaq dramatically. It used to be big risk for monster gains. No monster gains since 2021 but risk is still there. Because of that I'm thinking about diversifying into stocks next year gradually. I'm definitely not quitting crypto but it's time to diversify I guess.

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Sp99nHead

BTC is useless "store of value" and "digital gold" that randomly goes down 30% overnight. Future of finance will be built on ETH, give it time.

wintomato

BTC is definitely the long-term, steady up-trend pick, but altcoins aren’t completely pointless. They just behave differently. Bitcoin acts like “digital gold,” while things like ETH, LINK, HBAR, etc. move in cycles based on hype, upgrades, and adoption. They don’t climb as cleanly, but when they do move, they tend to move harder. So yeah, if you’re looking for slow, reliable growth, BTC is hard to beat. If you’re looking for potential bigger swings (good or bad), alts still have a place. it just depends on your risk tolerance. There isn’t really a “wrong” answer, just different goals.

DepartmentTall4891

No theyre not. Trump pumped BTC so whales can get out and sell to retail. This is the part whwre every sucker FOMOs in all the way back down to $10,000. Just watch. BTC is not currently. Its useless software that can be duplicated. Just wait til SRBTC comes out.

Potential_Initial903

Just remember that all text messages and shit are a scam, If you’re unsure please PLEASE call the site themselves and verify don’t follow links/call numbers sent through on text messages etc - Make sure to do your KYC properly and set up two factor. ( I know you probably already know all of this but I’m tired of people getting scammed )! Congrats and welcome to BTC.

uncapchad

you aren't missing much. The usual trash talking, glee in the fall of BTC's price, doom posting about MSTR and the usual "ponzi", "bubble" etc. There are still more bots promoting their signal telegram chats than any actual conversations...

Coquito3000

NVDA just destroyed the thesis that bitcoin is the fastest growing asset. And ETFs destroyed the thesis that once bitcoin appreciate the profits trickle down to altcoins. The reality is that this cycle has proven that bitcoin is definitely a class apart and the rest of the coins are shit. I own ETH. I should have been on BTC.

Apart-Apple-Red

Fucking hell. 😱 Guys, are you that careless to send money to anyone and anywhere only because you were promised something? If yes, would you like to send me one BTC and I'll send you two back in two days? I'm not begging or trying to scam you. I'm trying to show the ridiculousness of the situation and some people logical process. Yes, you were scam the moment you sent money to unknown entity.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Strategy has created a $1.44 billion reserve to ensure financial stability, cover dividends, and manage debt payments. The company also added 130 Bitcoins, increasing its total holdings to 650,000 BTC. This reserve, funded by selling Class A common stock, aims to provide liquidity and reassure stakeholders amidst market fluctuations. Strategy's dual approach of maintaining a cash reserve and expanding its Bitcoin portfolio highlights its commitment to balancing traditional finance with cryptocurrency investments for long-term growth. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

wintomato

You’ve already hit most of the big ones. BTC definitely reacts to macro stuff more than people like to admit. A few other things that can move the price: • Liquidity + risk sentiment - when markets shift to “risk-on,” BTC usually benefits. When fear hits, everything dumps together. • regulation news - anything from the US, EU, or big Asian markets can cause instant swings. • Exchange issues - hacks, outages, or big insolvency rumors can shake the market fast. • Stablecoin flows - Tether/USDC minting or burns can influence short-term moves. And yeah, BTC watches the S&P 500 too, not as tightly as NASDAQ, but the whole US market mood definitely spills over.

NerdTader97

Given the condition if nasdaq retrace of 10-15% be sure that no ICB EVM compatibilities or shit like that will work. We will get rekt and project will abandon developing. Only BTC can survive

thechickenmoo

Regulatory news hits BTC hard too, rules or ban rumors swing prices way more thann you'd think.

Ashamed_Moment_2477

Being a clear a Ponzi scheme the whole MSTR idea is stupid. Why would a whale want to make that entity rich, by building a BTC bag, that holds 5% of the entire supply?

SeaworthinessSad7300

Yeah I have invested heavily with a long term view. Annoyed about my timing (having done so at the start of this year). But I was always bullish so just lump summed in. For all we know, if I had decided to hold back it could have rocketed. I find timing very difficult but I know long term BTC will have very good growth (even considering decreasing returns compared to historically)

Commercial-Shape5561

It’s not really a Ponzi scheme unless you think bitcoin itself is, it’s just a risky, highly levered bet on BTC. It’s out in the open exactly what it is, no one’s being deceived or lied to. That’s not to say it’s a good idea. But it’s not illegal or deceptive or fraudulent… just very risky

NonGNonM

BTC up 1% in the last 24 hrs. i think we're back guys

Smile_lifeisgood

If you can't see how rug pulls by a President undermine the public's interest and potential future faith in _all_ crypto you're either a hopelessly biased MAGA type who thinks Trump can do no wrong or not thinking this through. Cryptocurrency and BTC are synonymous to your average joe. Rug pulls are terrible optics and empower crypto haters like Warren.

Krembolix

Wow, last time so much FUD on X was when Germans gov sold their stack. Looked up some comments on MSTR or BTC price action and lots of negative input from random ac targeting specifically MSTR etc

JeremyLinForever

No, the well informed investor would see that the YOY return on BTC is actually the hurdle rate. If Bitcoin is returning 50% year over year, then you need a small portions of an equity or instrument that returns more than 50% YOY hurdle rate. What would give this? MSTR.

Ok-Topic1139

Agreed. Last cycle i didnt exit in time and just held. This time I actually managed to exit. And for the first time im 100% out. I will be waiting for a bottom between 50 and 60K and 1 year before i start nibbling again. We went from 125 to 85k. In a month. Anyone thinking this is just a correction has to be new to BTC, or in denial,

Humphrey-B-Bear

There's no doubt this year has somewhat thrown the rule book out the window. But to your point, BTC (AKA The Honeybadger) has always done whatever the f#&k it wants. It doesn't care if you bought, sold, or hold. It will do in most cases the opposite of what you expect.

inShambles3749

Bitcoins rise to 1m could make me happy. But BTC doesn't do that