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RustyCatalyst

Yeah pretty much. That or what BTC I did buy, got spent on the dark web

Mo81m

New year, same excuses. BTC doesn’t wait 😂

iwakan

No, because I am bearish on BTC too.

Backrus

Now you're projecting your heavy bags because I never said I own any. If anything, owning crypto has been -EV play for almost 4 years. Shitcoins, including BTC, are for trading only. If you wanna hold something, hold quality stocks.

alm12alm12

I hate that this was pushed as a racist or classiest scenario 😑. This is SOP for banks. 1. They don't carry much cash, many stated to have as little as 350k on deck. 2. Consumer protection is the reason you can't clear out your account all at once. It protects from scammers, kidnapping, or other ransom scenarios. 3. If you call the bank in the morning and discuss the need, many will get your money by the next day or so. Still, BTC has none of these roadblocks

Kind_Soup_9753

How misleading of a title. BTC still the most secure currency on earth. Truth.

SpontaneousDream

I guess you shorted against USD? That's always going to turn out bad in the long run, since USD can be infinitely printed. Shorting coins against their BTC ratios is much better.

Kind_Soup_9753

You don’t even have to leave your couch when you want to send someone 50 billion with BTC. And the transaction is done before you get to the first bank.

Backrus

Zooming out is gotcha - BTC got fully financialised and completely hijacked on November 19, 2024 and that should be starting point of your analysis. Since then BTC has been the worst-performing asset in the world on an absolute and risk-adjusted basis. It's just sad.

Neoo9999

Looks good only for BTC

DocInABox33

Agree I think OP fails to understand this bc OP just started doing this at the exact moment where BTC would be pulling back. If OP started in 2022-2023 wouldn’t have any BTC and people who bought then, even at the top, works be way ahead of OP in profits. Really value investing only becomes a decent strategy when you have a diversified portfolio so if you apply it to equities/bonds/alts.

edakaya240

2025 has definitely tested the crypto market’s resilience, but periods like this often reset valuations and create long term opportunities. Staying patient and sticking to a solid plan, like holding BTC through volatility, is exactly what separates disciplined investors from emotional ones. Tough year overall, but these cycles are part of every major asset class.

elmarcelito

I get the idea but the pic is shit I mean what's bad anyway in playing PS2 in 2012? It doesn't take hours to buy BTC

rs7272

I'm not sure there is a way to accurately predict BTC, especially in the short term. There are events that happen, like fed rate cuts, that have an effect, but general consumer sentiment seems to be a large change factor. With AI making trades, who knows? New crypto coming in claiming to be the next Bitcoin muddys the waters even more. Generally, I expect it to be worth more in a year with peaks and valleys along the way, but I have no specific knowledge, insight, etc. to back up that opinion. Similar to saying the S&P500 will gain 8-10% per year ON AVERAGE. BTC is up about 75% per year if you take the average of the last 5. Any one may have been great or completely sucked. We're talking about technology which grows at an exponential rate. Who knows what the overall landscape will be in a year? Will we be fighting AI or will it usher in the Star Trek Era (I highly doubt either). There are so many factors affecting this - things that in and of themselves we have little predictive ability. This might help - [https://feargreedmeter.com/crypto-fear-and-greed-index](https://feargreedmeter.com/crypto-fear-and-greed-index) My time machine should be delivered next week. I'll let you know yesterday ;)

Easik

This isn't really accurate. Japan is basically the world bank right now, so when that bank stops lending all the liquidity goes away, which should contract m2 money supply. Liquidity issues lead to a dash for cash and no one has any, so it triggers a cascade of selling that triggers more deleverage event/margin call. Once this spiral starts, it should send the S&P and BTC back to the 200 week EMA.

Objective_Royal9628

If you want to leave your BTC on the exchange, you’re fine. But moving your BTC to another wallet will cost you based on your UTXOs. Scenario A — few large UTXOs • You have 3 large UTXOs. • Your $10,000 transaction uses 3 inputs. • Fee might be $1–$5 depending on network conditions Scenario B — many tiny UTXOs • You have 365 small UTXOs. • Your $10,000 transaction uses 50–200 inputs, depending on the wallet. • Fee could be $20–$60+ during normal traffic and even $100+ during congestion. This is called UTXO bloat. Thanks ChatGPT lol

Backrus

It's not Powell's fault. Everything else is flying, at ATHs or in price discovery, except for hijacked coin. Have you said "thank you for ETFs and IBIT options" even once? Healthy assets don't trade like BTC.

Backrus

It's not like BTC is exactly flying, every move up has been instantly sold off since December 2024 FOMC. ETH shouldn't dump because BTC whales are selling, but that's not the world we're living in. Still, the most bullish thing for this space would be Wall St running ETH higher, without BTC - after that coins could decouple and start trading on their own, instead of dumping every day with hijacked coin.

MinimalGravitas

Here are the figures from Friday: *Bitcoin ETFs: 1D NetFlow: -2,599 $BTC (-$236.54M) 7D NetFlow: -1,084 $BTC (-$98.63M) * Ethereum ETFs: 1D NetFlow: +18,286 $ETH (+$57.09M 7D NetFlow: +44,195 $ETH (+$137.98M) * Solana ETFs: 1D NetFlow: +31,742 $SOL (+$4.32M) 7D NetFlow: +422,239 $SOL (+$57.42M) Source: https://x.com/lookonchain/status/1996973439438279062?t=P7m9f0rEv_MXF39kbpH26g&s=19

EffectiveOdd2802

BTC was in a record high $115k+. 2025 is a better year than 2022, 2023, 2024. 🤷🏿‍♂️ Another post made by the democriers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

imfuckinglying2u

And BTC was 93k when this was posted

Signal-Accountant-33

As a newbie - would BTC becoming more mainstream be good for those investing or bad? I read one comment a while back saying that they hope it remains "underground" for longer, but I couldn't understand why he would say that?

Veganarchyst

It is bizarre to me that 99.9% of all Bitcoin "influencers" and YouTubers and BTC dabblersetc tell us that "it is necessary" for Bitcoin to be accepted by the banks and financial institutions and government, when Bitcoin is LITERALLY created to be the opposite, to be against that system to be the opposite of everything capitalism and corporate finance and banking is about I have disagreed with all of them from the get go And this is why The only way Bitcoin will function as it should and was created to do, is if retail acceptance comes back in and takes over, but retail is at the largest FEAR index it's ever been (probably rightly so), and the average person thinks Bitcoin is "too expensive" now, even though we are at such an early time But if retail doesn't come back, and it looks like it's not going to, the way financial systems work, they gobble up and modify and manipulate everything for their own use and wants, and all we will have is more corporate capitalism companies like Celsius and FTX who will manipulate the market, sell paper coin as if it's real, find clever ways to turn everything against the average person And we look like we are already 70% of the way there now Once they ingrain their systems, it won't go back

Pkrinv

Yeah, this is normal, and annoying, but also not really anything to do with BTC.  You can’t go to the bank and trade your BTC for money either.  Your local BTC atm probably won’t spit 50k out at you either.  Yeah, I can give my buddy 50k in BTC for 50k in cash. But I could also wire him 50k for 50k in cash as well. I gamble professionally and deal with cash very often.  We also used BTC in private online clubs over covid, mainly because there’s no way to reverse it like if you sent with Cash App or PayPal then charged it back/ reversed it, all of which happened multiple times, to myself included. 

wtfmoe

Check vip crypto vault on tradingview. They have an insane take on BTC and ETH moves. Really helpful. I follow them on TG too

hurtinforasquirtin77

I got made redundant back during Covid & I got a NZD25k payout…I also had about 15k in savings so this was the time when BTC had majorly slumped so I took a chance & bought 1 whole coin. Didn’t touch it for 5 years and come about 6 months ago saw it was around USD120’000 (NZD220’000) so I sold the whole coin. Me & the missus paid off the rest of our mortgage, bought a new car & got a new kitchen & still kept NZD25’000 in the bank. I think this is how you’re meant to do the whole BTC. But I’m sure a bunch of you will say I’m a muppet, should’ve kept holding. But it worked for us & I still have most of my original investment. Maybe if it slumps badly next year I’ll buy some more.

kaimaybo

1. f you are looking to test Volume Profile on crypto with decent spreads, CFT is still the cleanest option I have found. 2. I tried FTMO and the 5ers for a whil but their crypto list felt too limited for anything beyond majors BTC and ETH. 3. Crypto fund trader gave me enough altcoin pairs to actually stress test my setup without feeling boxed in. For a strategy that depends on volume shape, having more symbols makes a big difference.

According-Beat-9026

Pretty much everyone in the industry above entry-level is on the same page - the CTR threshold is incredulously outdated and leaves no real use for CTRs. Having a CTR filed is just normal paperwork. Entirely separate from any suspicious activity reporting pathways like SARs that also end up at FinCEN. In fact, there is nothing illegal about a CTR. Having a billion CTRs filed is not illegal or wrong. Attempting to circumvent said threshold by a penny, or appearing to, a single instance....that is a crime. Electronic payments have NOT made things more lenient. In industry, payments are indeed prioritizing speed and this is increasing risk exposure in ways...just not making things more lenient. Cash is and always will be king. Cash, gold, and bearer instruments. Electronic payments, including the easily traceable crypto, are all the bank's/state's wet dream for payment monitoring. This is a great misconception for big brother, frankly. From experience, these fancy little Fin-Tech companies with their fast payments and new services are often the most vigorous reporters. Anyway, great discussion for the BTC sub. Always wondered how yall felt about deanonymizers like chainalysis for your ledgers. The types of discernment capability I saw from chainalysis to convert filings from crypto activity was actually absurd. From what I saw, if we moved fully to crypto...we'd have financial crimes as a whole stopped globally in a matter of years...the discernment and reporting ability on crypto was so easily investigated and detailed. Often, it made what the most tech-enabled banks look like mall cops. It was also NOT more rare to pay with cash in recent years. In fact, due to generational differences (like seeing bank runs) it was quite literally more common to pay with cash in prior years. People still travelled, gambled, got scammed, bought cars and houses and boats, and paid attorneys, etc etc etc. So, the only thing that has changed is that now the threshold represents 66% less intrinsic value - relatively speaking. How does that math with your point? That isn't even touching the real economics of the math there, like purchasing power parity. Just to throw another wrench into your comment - most money service businesses (arguably where the majority of your digital payments are currently facilitated) are going to have reporting thresholds below the CTR threshold. Also, noting that anchoring discussions of value to the CTR threshold for suspicious activity is in err...considering (notwithstanding the nuance of known versus unknown suspect to FinCEN) the filing threshold for suspicious activity is less than the CTR threshold. This is the big one that snags most uneducated white-collar criminal attempts.

StuartMcNight

How is this related to BTC? How much cash can you withdraw from your wallet? Nobody would bat an eye if he was trying to transfer those 50k online. And if anything… having the cashier do some due diligence to ensure you cash is protected from scams is a positive.

ozbazin

How much of % BTC occupied in the entire portfolio of yours. If you had done so past 10 years weekly I guess you are sitting on a nice gain

Nemozoli

Seems like an advertisement for Coinbase, which it was. They contacted him to recreate the original video when BTC hit $100k.

BitcoinFan7

>Downside of BTC however is that whenever a government decides to restrict internet access (African elections, social revolt like Nepal, Madagascar), you're no longer able to access your BTC either. Starlink exists, cell phones exist, mesh networking, hell ham radio exists. Your Bitcoin is right where you left it once you have any ability to communicate with the outside world again.

usernamenomoreleft

Question as a newbie. Wouldn't buying daily incur a lot of fees? Compared to say, monthly? Where do you guys buy BTC?

brdoc

Not concerned, keeping all my stack and hodling. However, I haven't been buying lately and instead saved fiat, at this point I'm kind of hoping for a crash so I can buy more real freedom currency, BTC

realitynofantasy

I get your point. But think about it this way, he has about 10 BTC right now, all he had to do was buy 30 dollars per day for 8 years, heck he can even automate that. Compare that to the effort needed now to get 10 BTC.

Dry_Jellyfish641

I have one of these physical coins. It’s for .25 BTC and the person I got it from redeemed it. I still think it’s cool to have though

Dry_Jellyfish641

I have one of these physical coins. It’s for .25 BTC and the person I got it from redeemed it. I still think it’s cool to have though

Material-Statement50

$500,000 BTC by 2030. $1million by 2035

SixEightL

Depends. Cash + inflation makes it that when you withdraw cash, it'll lose its value every year. So ideally you'll want something that DOESNT lose value. BTC, precious metals etc. Downside of BTC however is that whenever a government decides to restrict internet access (African elections, social revolt like Nepal, Madagascar), you're no longer able to access your BTC either.

qartas

“1.083K”??? Why not just say 1083 BTC?

Infamous_Tivenca

BTC and ETH might rebound if key supports hold, but volatility isn’t going anywhere soon.

chain_thinker7

Tough year for sure — but downturns also show who plays smart. Instead of just watching prices slip, I’ve been using BTC to generate yield through staking/LP strategies (via Money Protocol + Intrinsic). Even if the market drops more, yield helps soften the blow.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Two rare Casascius coins, each containing 1,000 Bitcoin, were activated after 13 years, unlocking over $179 million. Casascius coins, physical collectibles minted between 2011-2013 by Mike Caldwell, contain embedded Bitcoin and tamper-resistant holograms. Only a few 1,000 BTC coins and bars were made before Caldwell ceased operations due to regulatory concerns. Redeeming these coins transfers their Bitcoin value to a digital wallet, but does not necessarily mean the Bitcoin will be sold immediately. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Unable_Mess_2581

Only BTC and probably few others. Strictly no meme coins.

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d_andy089

Didn't BTC have an all time high? 🤔

Flat-Guidance-4685

I don't know if you just like to be argumentative or if you have reading comprehension problems.  I said that might work here and there. You gave an example where it worked here or there. Attempt to replicate that. You chose to show something that occurred on one of the most predictable days of the past year. Where price was steadily moving in One direction and everyone knew which direction that was going to be. Go ahead and replicate that for 365 days treating nothing but that like op had asked. Tell me if that paid your bills. Op's question that I responded to was specifically, can you trade just Bitcoin and pay your bills. The answer is no.  Now if we want to get into the further details of why your answer is just an attempt to be a snarky little twit. I specifically said people could trade things like ETFs but it's not a good market strategy to physically buy the coin and sell it in the same day.  You then come back by claiming you had a big win on USD-margined futures contracts, Which is a derivative instrument which has absolutely nothing to do with purchasing a coin, paying the premium and then selling it for a reasonable profit within the same day. Need less doing that in a replicated fashion to work as a solo strategy. You did not buy a Bitcoin. You bought a financial instrument which is not even directly tied to the spot price of BTC. On top of that, purchase of derivative instruments or ETFs do not include the premium to which I said was most significant reason why day trades of Bitcoin are not a viable strategy.  So I really don't understand why you even made the comment being you gave no argument against what I said. You just argued for fun about something you did unrelated to what I said

growmywealth

Ever heard about Binance USD-M Futures? I trade it and I don't know what are you talking about. I could show my trade that I closed yesterday on Binance with $28,440 profit: 14.6 BTC shorted at 93K at 7x leverage. But I won't do because you don't need to see it. If you need proof, you don't know me yet and I have no obligation to prove anything. Exited a bit early due to predefined TPs. It eventually went down further further below 90K. But I'm okay as it got closed at favourable 1:4+ RR. I am very picky about trades so my red days are extremely small.

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Vast-Struggle7891

No. I have significant debts, but BTC will stay untouchable untill my retirement! Btc is my retirement pot!

VariatCA

It's a tough act to keep up while market-liquidity conditions are improving and longer-term confidence is relieved, though. There's just as much open interest from shorts right now at 89.5k as there was when we hit 80k two weeks ago; a big percentage of the fresh short-volume since Nov 21st is just building up, and paying open-interest rather than take any profit even as BTC has recovered from 80k->89k. If an upward trend takes hold, it *quickly* becomes a game of musical chairs for shorts as they try to secure profit, which just fuels spot-buying pressure and accelerating the recovery further.

VariatCA

ETF inflows are in, with BTC at +54M inflows total, while Blackrock's Ibit shed -$32M. ETH's only daily ETF reporting was from Blackrock today apparently, an outflow of -$75M.

VariatCA

Even in these /cc Dailies back in June and July, plenty of people here were lamenting the buying opportunities they missed in April when BTC briefly broke 80k. But given another shot at it last month, many missed it *again* as fear of going lower gripped them. You can't buy the bottom if you're always afraid and certain it's going lower.

HotConference8019

Welcome to the BTC family, 100 is enough to begin, keep stacking and you will be thankful in the future😍

DocInABox33

Kenyans using BTC to pay for $100 dollars of food: Dec 1, 2011: 100/4.7=21.277 BTC Dec 1, 2012: 100/13.5=7.407 BTC Dec 1, 2013: 100/805.9=0.124 BTC Dec 1, 2014: 100/318.2=0.314 BTC Dec 1, 2015: 100/430=0.233 BTC Dec 1, 2016: 100/963.4=0.104 BTC Dec 1, 2017: 100/13,850.4=0.00722 BTC Dec 1, 2018: 100/3,709.4=0.027 BTC Dec 1, 2019: 100/7,196.4=0.0139 BTC Dec 1, 2020: 100/28,949.4=0.00345 BTC Dec 1, 2021: 100/46,219.5=0.00216 BTC Dec 1, 2022: 100/16,537.4=0.00605 BTC Dec 1, 2023: 100/42,272.5=0.00237 BTC Dec 1, 2024: 100/93,557.2=0.00107 BTC Dec 1, 2025: 100/89,705.7=0.00111 BTC 27.277 BTC to buy $100 of food in 2011 to 0.00111 BTC in 2025 for the same amount… a literal 0.004% amount of BTC from 2011…. Yeah you are so right going to need even more BTC to buy the same amount

systemisrigged

I’m worried about Strategy - I think that’s key now. If people are worried about the Treasury companies that’s gonna hang a heavy weight in BTC until they feel safe again. Otherwise you have that massive overhang

nitroacid411

Haters from other currencies, coins, and buttcoin peeps. Friday was nice. Usually Fridays are rekt and Sundays are recoveries historically. Anything can happen. There can only be one top dog and BTC is and has been.

SevereArrivals13

The crab/bear market is always there to shake out the weaker hands. Go back to the dailies of BTC ar 120k and everyone was begging for this price to buy in lol Its always the same story

DocInABox33

What was BTC price in 2015, was it lower than 2011? What was BTC price in 2018, was it lower than 2015? What was BTC price in 2022, was it lower than 2018? What was BTC price in 2025, was it lower than 2022? Dec 1, 2011➡️➡️ BTC $4.7 Dec 1, 2015➡️➡️ BTC $430 Dec 1, 2018➡️➡️ BTC $3,709.4 Dec 1, 2022➡️➡️ BTC $16,537.4 Dec 1, 2025➡️➡️ BTC $89,664.6 You need to retake 1st grade math if you thinking always going lower

andDevW

If you had given each family member 100 BTC back when they cost 10 cents most of them would have either misplaced it or sold it well before it hit $1k.

Candid-Love-9762

Pretty well done with crypto . It’s over speculative. I’m down 20% on my BTC and if I would’ve just parked it in something like xeqt I’d be up 16% for the year. I’m not chasing hopes of 20% a year just to get negative . Btc will never see 800% cycles it’s done . Too much institutional adoption and market manipulation! Literally just being used a a pump and dump for global elites . Trumps family get billions off shorting every crash . It’s an joke

Impressive_Pilot8415

BOTH LINK & AVAX have awful tokenomics (ie large supplies with millions / billions still to be released) = constant inflation, & diminished returns, much better just sticking with BTC.

cubeeless

Bitcoin is here to stay. You owe it to yourself, therefore, to learn the basic facts about it - the sooner you do, the better for you, in the long term. Best intro videos/book: The Trust Machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKwqNgG-Sv4 Why I'm buying BTC: https://youtu.be/1AVLV3fq4Ic Bitcoin Airplane: https://youtu.be/tYldJpSPeqg Book: The Bitcoin Standard, by S. Ammous. Mike Maloney: Hidden Secrets of Money, episode 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk7P119QcRc&ab_channel=JamesKing The best investement that you can make in your lifetime is your own education. Education on: • ⁠...the history of money • ⁠...finance • ⁠...how the global economy works • ⁠...how the central bankers and the stock market work, how they can scam you.

ParticularSun6471

How long have you been holding BTC?

thaonewhoknocks

I mean BTC is sitting near 90k.. what more do you want? haha. just hold good assets, man.

ftball21

Just a reminder to hold strong and don’t be fudded out. I was scrolling through my emails and found my first 2 buys on coinbase… 🥲🥲🥲 “On January 20, 2017 you purchased 0.1000 BTC for $91.04 USD” “On January 20, 2017 you purchased 7.0000 ETH for $75.89 USD”

anon-187101

Buying 1 BTC if you have the fiat to purchase it is easy. HODLing 1 BTC for many years is not easy.

ThreeTonChonker

ADA was shilled so hard here at one point. Next up is definitely XRP. One day people will understand it’s BTC or bust.

Comprehensive_Tip310

Never got mine back. 50 BTC, 200 LTC , 5000 peercoin. And I think dark coin?

Joey-Steel1917

The hardest part is banking fiat due to its liquidity for use in an emergency, knowing it could have been put towards another BTC dip.

popoppopcorn

If having 89k(current 1 btc price) you can put into anything is an achievement, then having 1 btc is an achievement. I'd bet on BTC being a no-brainer move in 10 years after the fact. Just like it is now. The train isn't stopping and every time there's stalling and dumps in the road the FUD spreaders come out like their life depends on it. Banks are literally giving the OK to normies that BTC is an investment option now. Right now you don't know anyone who even looks at BTC because all they read is FUD to confirm their already held beliefs that BTC is a ponzi scheme rug pull. Soon they will be buying, pumping your bags because the banks said so. Even in a scenario where BTC is a ponzi scheme rug pull, there's still many many years of riding that scheme to the upside. You'd be silly to not take advantage.

PeopleNose

Uhhh... BTC solves the double spend problem while remaining publicly available to edit... ? Are you serious? Broham, you've got a long ways to go for understanding BTC's value if that's the extent of your knowledge

Born-Bookkeeper-1681

BTC going up over time because of the fixed supply assumes demand will increase over time, but demand can very easily go to 0 over time since it doesn't have any widespread use other than hoping it increases in value

mrjune2040

I'm literally NOT the guy to quote past trends. Look at my last comment on the Bitcoin sub, all proclamations of patterns and cycles in crypto are foolhardy because a long-term dataset doesn't exist. The four-cycle is bullshit, and perpetuated by newbies that don't know any better. As to this comment- it's just a factual statement to say that we've been in a bull market since December 2022 (when month on month growth started again), and that BTC reached it's ATH in 2025. If someone didn't make money during this period that's on them, because it's certainly not the market.

tornavec

BTC will be stuck in a range until the FOMC

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Emergency-Sky9206

Are you new to crypto cycles? There are ebbs and flows, there are bear and bull markets. BTC is the best performing asset of the last 15 years. Also doesn't change the fact that the U.S dollar is still losing value and PP over time, so moot point.

tornavec

Personally, I'm not chasing moonshots. Yet my portfolio is outperforming Bitcoin. My strategy is to focus on large-cap altcoins that offer high staking yields. As it happens, they not only outperform BTC but also show resilience during market dips

TekRabbit

“Don’t give anyone reason to want to rob you” you literally said it yourself right there. Advertising you have BTC is probably giving stupid people a reason to rob you

tmcnix

Attaining 200-300K USD in not leverage assets is a significant achievement which places you in the top 5% nationally and the top 1% globally. Having 2-3 bitcoin means you’ve achieved this significant milestone and are smart enough to know that keeping your savings in Fiat is REGARDED. You and your dependents will be financially free until your grandchild sell your BTC for drugs 60 years from now.

Far-Juice-6197

Yeah, 2025’s been tough with Q4 dips: BTC hit $126K highs but pulled back, ETH had only 3 positive months, and DEX volumes dropped 26%. Recent crashes like the $1B liquidation on Dec 1 didn’t help. But overall, it was strong: market cap topped $4T (up from start of year), BTC/ETH smashed ATHs, stablecoins hit $287B, ETFs boomed, and VC funding rebounded to $8B in Q3. Hang tight, projections see BTC breaking ATH in 2026..

Steezy_Steve1990

I’ve been in crypto since 2017. My intro was buying the top in 2017 and ridding my bags down 90% until 2021 when those bags 10x my initial investment and I sold them. This cycle. Similar to you. Had a 6x on my SUI bag in January 2025 and round tripped it to today. Still in profit on my SUI but everything else is 60%-90% down. All I can say is crypto is a highly volatile asset and people seem to forget to have the possibility of 10x returns you have to accept that that same volatility can dump your bags 90%. Another point, people in this market have the memory of a goldfish and the emotional maturity of a toddler. Every time we get a dump it’s over and every time it pumps lock in for 100x gains. They aren’t right. The answer is normally somewhere in the middle. As for lessons I’ve learnt the hard way. Don’t chase pumps and FOMO in every pump and sell every dump. You will slowly loose all your money. Hold a few high conviction cryptos that you actually believe in and for god sakes do your own research. Also, being in this market now for 8 years, I can say that it is changing. Institutions are here now and we’re playing their game. Low market cap coins might be dead. Better off seeing where big money is going and invest in large caps. Best thing is buy BTC/ETH/SOL in the depths of the bear market. Guaranteed great profits within a few years.

jmorais00

No. BTC always melts in dec-feb, every year

ItsEtidorpha

I agree with much of what you said and the long term outlook. Financial institutions offering BTC is good, however having the mass of retail actually adopt is a different story and institutions know that, and therefore not urgent. I am a long term believer in BTC but still believe anyone buying now is early along with institutions. A lot of wealth is held by boomers, and BTC is not for them… rightfully so. This should change over time and until then I’m just going to continue stacking. I’ll see you on the moon!

dylan6091

Step 1. Buy from an exchange like coinbase. Step 2. Take a picture when the price goes up. Step 3. Sell when the price crashes and lose a lot of money. Step 4. Try again with new conviction. Step 5. Realize that you don't actually own BTC as long as it's on an exchange. Step 6. Buy a hardware wallet and transfer to self-custody. Step 7. Support Bitcoin companies by ditching your initial exchange (it's gonna be Coinbase) and starting to buy through a Bitcoin only exchange. Step 8. Realize you are still using someone else's node to validate your transactions. Step 10. Buy or build a node and become fully sovereign.

WildlySkeptical

I wouldn’t normally say this, but wow, this really is a dumb ass question. You’re asking if it is good that a person has managed to be fortunate enough to both have enough to have lived on and to ALSO amass the equivalent of roughly $300,000 USD? Of course it is! Only roughly 15% of all humans in the world have more than (equivalent) $100kUSD to their name. That number drops drastically with every dollar. Less than 2% of humans have more than $1mil USD (equiv) to their name. So yeh, if you put together 3 BTC, you’re essentially wealthy in world population terms.

Strict_Alps_1304

so you have 2-3 BTC and are asking us if you will be millionaire .... maybe, 1 or 2 btc will be enough to retire in a 3rd world country within 5-7 years

Wdym_Brother

I’ve been feeling eerily calm ever since the October 10th flash crash, kinda like acceptance ig? I wonder if anyone else has been feeling the same way. I rode the pump last Nov-Dec 2024 and just watched my portfolio shoot up, not selling like an idiot despite the 125% gains in a month, and then was stuck bag holding until I made a bit of profit in September this year after holding for 11 months. Unfortunately, I reinvested those profits in October right before the flash crash 😂. Maybe bag holding for almost a year made me numb to the flash crash, but I don’t wanna use the word numb bc that implies I felt sad or upset abt the crash; I just saw it as part of the risks involved in crypto and as one of those things that can always happen unexpectedly. Also, for those who’ve been involved in crypto prior to 2022, I’m wondering if anyone has any wisdom they’d be willing to share about their experience with past bear markets, especially in relation to high cap alt coins. I’ve been very fortunate in the sense that I first got into BTC and ETH at the very lows of the bear market in Dec 2022, but made the mistake of rotating those profits into AVAX this cycle. None of my money invested is money I can’t afford to lose, so losing it all isn’t a concern. Just wondering if people have insight when it comes to handling the bear market if this is truly the start of it, since it would be my first bear market

SpaghettiTape

Speaking seriously... do you know how much work upkeep on a mansion is? I have a house with 3 bedrooms and a basement and first off, it's way more house than I need - there are rooms in my house I haven't spent more than a few hours in this year. Imagine having 5 or 10x that in some huge fucking house. Dust is real. Dirt is real. Heating/cooling costs are real. Upkeep is real. Big houses are a lot of work - and you might not want to have to pay for someone else snooping around in your space all the time to clean up your shit. The last thing I would buy (if I had early BTC money) is a mansion.

tootintx

Has it been? I just buy on my schedule and sometimes go a week or more without seeing the current BTC price.

scott_in_ga

100% agree. I'm hoping to get suuuper cheap BTC- whether I have to wait 1, 2, 3 years. Long term I'm bullish AF, but we're coming off of the Biden Bucks inflation sugar high and things are coming down (deflation)

theincognito66

I'm in the camp that I'm not going to beat the market. I'm better off stacking BTC for long term growth and investing in index fund tracking ETFs and a few stocks that I truly believe in. I understand there's tools and you can develop a strategy. But I personally don't want to risk my capital like that. Sure, high reward - but high risk and a lot of effort with a 99% failure rate. It's hard to ignore that fact.

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Post is by: mhaebig and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1pfbye8/vaultoro_withdrawal_pending_since_30_oct_has/ I’m documenting an ongoing withdrawal issue with Vaultoro (vaultoro.com) and would appreciate input from anyone who has recently used the platform. **Timeline summary:** * **30 Oct:** Submitted a 0.5 BTC withdrawal — never processed. * Subsequent requests to withdraw my *full balance* were acknowledged but also not executed. * Across multiple support tickets, I received shifting explanations: *manual processing*, *system bugs*, *compliance checks*, etc. * **21 Nov:** Vaultoro requested a fresh upload of ID + selfie (despite full KYC completed earlier this year). I provided everything immediately. * **27–28 Nov:** Vaultoro introduced a *new requirement*: a **live KYC video call** before releasing funds. * I provided several available time windows for this call (1–3 Dec), but as of **5 Dec**, no meeting has been scheduled and no link has been provided. I remain fully cooperative and responsive, but the withdrawal is now over **5 weeks** pending. **My question:** Has anyone here seen similar delays, KYC escalations, or live-verification requirements from Vaultoro recently? Is this an isolated operational problem or something broader? Any insight from traders or users with recent interaction would be very useful. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

brandon_cabral

Did you buy the ATH? I didn’t. I bought a lot of BTC at 78k in April and 82k a week or 2 ago. DCA’d moderately through the year. So yes it was great for accumulating if you know what you’re doing. And if the market mostly moved sideways then, yes, that’s a good time to accumulate. Not sure what problem you have with that lol we aren’t seeing 2022-2023 lows ever again so not sure why you’re bringing that up. Might as well say ‘2012 was a good time to accumulate!!!’

houston187

According to this chart, at no time has it dropped more than 20% of the previous high. That puts BTC bottoming around $55k, not $30K.

CorgiDad

I dunno, Monero's been killing it! Not great for BTC tho yeah.

Easik

It's the yen carry trade pulling liquidity out of risk on assets. There isn't an individual selling, it's the market makers selling to patch holes in their balance sheet before end of year. It hasn't even dumped yet, get ready for Dec 19th and March. BTC is most certainly going to be under 77k by the summer.

NoMathematician3105

This and its high volatility is the reason I can outperform simply holding BTC compounding my position over and over and over…