BTC

Hopeful_Dress7881

0.4 btc sets you up for life with BTC assuming you hold for the future.I dont know your age or situation.

Odd_Sir_8705

Anybody who would request BTC for ransom payment doesnt know much about it to begin with lol

AlbiBambi

Gotta love the people who complain about "crashes" but are too lazy to check how things were before they bought BTC

JakRenden2

Transfers going in shouldn't spark any theory. People have been sending BTC to the Satoshi wallet ever since BTC was created

el_rico_pavo_real

All it takes for MSTR to be one of the biggest companies in the world is for BTC to do its thing.

Tube_Amp_Degen

.....and here lies the inherit issue with btc today, it's being treated as a highly volatile digital commodity, not a currency, it's only intended use. The entire value prospect of BTC is being a decentralized currency, which it can't be as the price swings cause people to either hold it or sell it. Companies tried accepting it as a currency during the boom but got burnt when entire net margins got wiped out by btc price falling off a cliff in months. It's so closely pegged to USD it's kind of hilarious. It's become no different than glorified blockchain Pokémon cards. What happens when institutional investors and whales start dumping as BTC as its practically useless as a currency in any mainstream capacity? Ironic that crypto holders want to go to the moon, but their mentality of hording it like a commodity will eventually be the reason it will fail. Better hope that economic conditions rebound because if the times get real tough the first asset dumped will be highly volatile assets, and btc takes that crown by a longshot. There is obviously money to be made with swings, but be careful, it seems most crypto owners forgot the entire point of BTC.

perceptron-addict

Trust the cycle. I have puts on BTC

ice-ink

Because they either haven’t seen BTC / ETH chart in the last years, or think the lower it drops — the higher it will bounce.

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Jacmac_

BTC when it crashes to 10K.

Calm-Professional103

That’s why the Shakepay card is so popular in Canada. Interest and cashback paid in BTC plus you can earn free sats just by shaking your phone every day. 

Bongressman

S&P has regular drops every 4 years as well. People are markets. It isn't magic, are reading the stars. These things repeat because the people that move these markets want them to repeat. Markets "rhyme" with the past, cycles repeat because they are made to repeat. People can "want" the 4 year cycles to be over, but they exist all over the place, not just in BTC. All evidence points in one way, that the cycle is very much not broken... thinking is IS over is just utilizing hopium to try and derail all evidence to the contrary. I am happy the cycles exist. Markets loath unpredictability.

R50cent

*looks at BTC and ETH and the scores of arguments for months and months about how everything else is garbage* Best of luck to the people still trying to figure it out lol.

oopssomething

Moons up 5% against BTC

NinjaVaca

Yes, it's a religious aspect of BTC, Satoshi died for our gains. If he comes back, rapture.

Survivaleast

So in 2020 everyone was expecting things to drop much harder. It was by most accounts, a “world ending pandemic” with even the most prominent minds in the financial sector pushing the total economic collapse narrative. The people who bought BTC and ETH at all time lows during that period are still sitting quite nicely today. People who bought ETH for instance around $100 and below are still doing very nicely. Just as the people who bought BTC and ETH through the crashes before them. Even then, the popular tribal sentiment was it would crash further and maybe the entire tribe would finally buy with another 50% drop from there. That drop never came. Yah there’s plenty of bs going on today, just as there was plenty of bs going on previously. The happiest people in the crypto space have trained their brains to appreciate red and be cautious with green. They don’t buy crazy stupid things like cake coin, doggie coins, rainbow coins or whatever new social indoctrination scam perpetuated via Facebook posts came out today.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Binance's SAFU Fund, an emergency reserve for user protection, has converted $734 million into Bitcoin, totaling 10,455 BTC. This move is part of a broader plan to shift $1 billion in reserves into Bitcoin over 30 days. Analysts speculate that SAFU fund reallocations may signal crypto market turning points, as past conversions coincided with significant market rallies. However, the purchases may simply reflect Binance's treasury strategy. The transparency of SAFU transactions provides insight into Binance's risk management during volatile conditions. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

pizzeriagio

Yes, first time in crypto(BTC). I am down 170€ but I will keep buying

biba8163

100% confirmed in Jan. 2025 by those with common sense (like me) and many others. If you believed in Altseason you got scammed by influencers and circle jerking bagholders. > A lot of people are holding heavy Alt bags **rationalizing a huge Altseason is coming** this year. Your Alt echo chambers are telling you, it's 100% happening. **There is zero percentage chance of that happening** without another big BTC leg up so it would be wise to temper your expectations. **(January 1st 2025)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1hr1bgb/btc_returns_2010_2024/m4uaz4g/ > *Uhh, is it "Altcoin Season" yet?*. **(Jan. 2025)** > BTC ETFs have put a kink in the old rotation, as ETF profits go off chain into stocks, bonds, and cash. /u/watch-nerd https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1iadnpm/comment/m9aqi0q/

Leynnox

What tells you that you're early or late? You don't think people always been saying this exact same thing when they bought BTC $1000 when some others bought it for $4? If you don't believe, you'll never make any real money here.

Mundane-Outside8943

Look guys u guys have been buying BTC when it's price was low. So u guys don't care about the 50 or 80% crash. But i am a new investor. I am not here to pass BTC to my kids I am here to take 50-60℅ profits. BTW u guys really think BTC will hit 50 million 1 day. First let BTC hit 10 million. Then we can talk.2 days ago People were saying its going to 40k😂 this year. 

Waxxing_Gibbouss

“As of early 2026, the United States is the largest known state holder of Bitcoin, holding an estimated 328,000 BTC (valued at roughly $30 billion)” You don’t think the US being unfriendly to bitcoin would have an effect?

No-Wrap3568

I keep all my crypto self-custodial by using the Cypherock cold wallet as my main vault as it lets me store multiple wallets (BTC, ETH, XMR, SOL, DOT, USDT, etc.) with separate seed phrases, but no need to write anything down thanks to Shamir’s Secret Sharing (keys split into 5 parts, only 2 needed to recover). For instant access, I connect it via WalletConnect to swap/send from my phone without exposing keys. For smaller/meme coins, I use a hot wallet like Rabby on mobile, keeping them separate from my main stack. This setup gives me both secure long-term storage and daily usability without the stress of managing multiple seed phrases or relying on centralized exchanges. Hope it helps!

Successful-Hat-7829

I bought Thursday 10BTC and I hope the price of BTC goes lower (50.000$)than I buy 20BTC. It’s not a disaster, it’s a chance!🖖🖖🖖

TheHunterAmin

"Im thinking about a long term investment" , "when it going to reach 120k again I am fully out!" This sounds like a weird plan... first of all you know that BTC always breaking ATH's every 4 years. So why get out when the party starts? Second, long term investments means 10-20 years, not 2-3 years..

VaporFye

imagine if 1 BTC got down to $30k, the glorious moment of buying 1 BTC at 30k, we can only dream

Inevitable-Cat869

I think BTC will grow modestly in the coming years but it will largely be dependent on how the economic/political environment plays out. In the current environment, cryptocurrency will remain fairly niche. But once things stabilize more, there will likely be a sizable rebound. That said, i will probably buy some more if it dips lower. My friend is completely convinced that BTC is the future and will fix the world's financial problems. But I remained skeptical after Trump got elected with his colorful business and crypto history.

Numerous_Ad_6142

The bulk of current selling pressure is from smaller holders and newer retail participants, especially wallets holding less than ~1 BTC. Larger holders and institutional players are much less likely to be driving the sell-off and are increasingly absorbing the supply rather than supplying it.

Necessary-Nature-380

Stocks are pumping harder than BTC

Ok-Sympathy9768

It would make sense… they appointed a true hawk .. I am thinking this might be the one last ditch effort to save the dollar..Volker level interest rates, reducing the balance sheet, and possibly combined with austerity measures. How would BTC price action be in that environment?

nexi_swe

Congrats on the purchase! Whether it’s ‘worth it’ to move BTC to a hardware wallet depends on how much you value self‑custody vs convenience. Personally, I only move my BTC off Coinbase when I’ve accumulated around $1000 or more — mostly to avoid lots of small on‑chain transactions and to keep fees down. You can absolutely move smaller amounts too, especially if you prefer having full control sooner. Just wait for a moment when network fees are low. To transfer from Coinbase: go to your hardware wallet, generate a receive address, then in Coinbase choose ‘Send’, paste the address, and confirm. Super simple once you’ve done it once.

chemicallyromancedIN

Always buy the anchor when the markets flushing it's liquidity thats BTC 👌

ThrowRA-hamburger

yeah the weekly looks rough. i think 90k is definitely in play before we see any sustained relief. been using dips like this to average into stuff like SEI that got absolutely destroyed. figure if BTC bounces everything comes with it eventually

Ok-Sympathy9768

Yup.. I believe you are right about the 4 years cycle .. denial or conviction, call it what you want, I should have recognized the signs before it dipped below 100k… cost me well over a million in profit.. cashed out in tranches at 90k,80k,75k, and 69k(last ATH).. a majority of buys were lump sum at 3k, and 16k, with small amounts DCAd over that timeframe .. the last of my holdings, a small amount of exposure in IBIT ETF, equivalent to about 2 whole coins, is getting sold in about 5 minutes when the market opens (can’t go broke taking a profit)… good luck to everyone on their BTC journey…

KipAndrew

never stopped lol. been adding BTC and some SEI on the side since it's so cheap now. idk if we go lower but whatever

Aerocryptic

$60K BTC is for the plebs. When you have a lot of money you buy some premium BTC

skurey

And I have a way bigger ROI than him on my BTC

harvested

1,142 BTC for ~$90.0 million at ~$78,815 per bitcoin Your made up numbers have no power here!

UKcoin2

1,142 Bitcoin purchase worth $78 million at an average $68,300/BTC

AInception

They probably couldn't sell more than 1% until they ate up every existing buy order. 5% would be way more than enough to send things to $0. Days BTC crashes 10% or more comes from 10K-20K moves. Whales still have to stagger their sells or sell OTC at huge discounts to prevent flash crashes. Long-term, if things recover (big if since miner revenue would drop to $0 too) and there are 21M coins in circulation instead of 18-19M that still makes a huge difference to its value prop. It'd be like finding 10 trillion cash dollars on the ground and rapid fire spending it in your local city. It would devastate the markets.

dweeegs

Well he definitely pays a premium for OTC But nah. He’s able to raise cash when his stock is doing well (eg when BTC is going up). It’s a weird concept but he’s able to raise less the more BTC is going down. That’s why he was relatively quiet during the last bear market

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Michael Saylor's company, Strategy, has purchased an additional 1,142 Bitcoin for $90 million at an average price of $78,815 per BTC, bringing its total holdings to 714,644 BTC acquired for $54.35 billion. However, with Bitcoin trading below $70,000, the company's holdings remain at an unrealized loss. The timing of the purchase has raised questions within the cryptocurrency community, as the acquisition occurred before a significant price drop. Strategy's stock price has also seen fluctuations, reflecting market reactions. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

bitusher

>When you borrow, spend or earn using Bitcoin, you often end up giving up some control Borrow and lending I agree with you that you often need to give up some control. I disagree with you that spending and earning forces you to use custodial solutions. Most lightning wallets are non custodial and are extremely easy to use and in some aspects easier to use than onchain wallets. I personally spend and replace my BTC almost daily with local merchants and online and only use non custodial lightning wallets Bitcoin in a payment channel is simply using multisig and HLTC protocol smart contract scripting and ultimately relies on the security of the base protocol and no custodians or TTPs. It is not a different security model as a sidechain like liquid and in fact spending BTC with a lightning payment channel in some facets is more secure because your confirmation is anchored deep in the blockchain where you don't need to worry about reorgs like you do with making an onchain transaction. As far as earning or receiving Bitcoin , the easiest way to do this is simply install a non custodial wallet which has less friction and much quicker than setting up any custodial exchange account. If you need more sophisticated payment processors and shopping carts for your website you can use feature rich and mature solutions like https://btcpayserver.org/ which is non custodial , 100% open source , and 100% free to use (no fees)

MethodImportant793

I’m 65, and thru my years, I’ve made some whopping bad investments. But I’m still here, and I still have investments. And even at my age, I’ve lost money in the crypto market, but have come to learn there are two coins I trust, BTC and ETH. You will make your money in those two. Chin up, and wait it out.

OsChMoScH

Doesn't matter when BTC's price will go to infinity /s

Patrick_Atsushi

If Satoshi is back and publicly burn most of his BTC, things might be interesting.

GPThought

Start with The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous - it'll rewire how you think about money. For the technical side, aantonop's YouTube channel (Andreas Antonopoulos) breaks down complex concepts. Also r/BitcoinBeginners is solid for questions without the noise. The rabbit hole is deep, but once you start connecting the dots between monetary policy, inflation, and BTC's fixed supply... it clicks.

jawni

El Salvador never stopped their BTC buying: https://bitcoin.gob.sv/

FireNurse2105

They will intentionally break the levels that scare people to get you to sell to them and once they have a large enough position the will send it... but not without huge wicks down to steal liquidity along the way!!! Plus BTC is no longer a scarce asset... idk how to post it here but I have a pick of silver and how a TINY SLIVER of it is actual silver and the rest is paper silver, that's what they have done to BTC and will continue to do. Your only choice is to get out or hodl and wait until the institutions are finished accumulating and are ready to head up. It sucks bc this is my first crypto cycle and I had hopes (like everyone) of doing good... but what most people thought would be the holy grail (mainstream adoption) has been the death nail for retail investors!!!

aaj094

Strategy has acquired 1,142 BTC for ~$90.0 million at ~$78,815 per bitcoin. As of 2/8/2026, we hodl 714,644 $BTC acquired for ~$54.35 billion at ~$76,056 per bitcoin. $MSTR $STRC https://x.com/saylor/status/2020846107685695931

Capable_Ant_291

Multiple factors; 4 year cycle, long term investors taking profit, and the big one, spot ETF BTC and futures BTC basis compressing, thus creating a less attractive position for hedge funds and large institutions arbitrageurs. What used to be a no risk high gain commodity with approx 10% annualized return is now 4% or lower, with fees and other options this is certainly not worth it for those large players. If you take a look at when BTC pumped hard, it was after BTC purchase was available with exchanges rather than buying on crypto platforms. This opened the flood gate for a lot of institutions and the spread between spot ETF and futures was way too attractive to let go.

New-Concert9929

BTC is traceable at the blockchain level, that part isn’t really debated anymore. What usually exposes people is touching KYC exchanges when cashing out. Self custody doesn’t equal privacy, it just means control. That’s why some users look into privacy focused tools (like offmixer) to reduce simple transaction linking not to make BTC untraceable. Privacy ≠ immunity from law or taxes, but it does change how easily activity is clustered.

VadersGalaxy412

No one is going to risk their pensions to the volatility of BTC

Patient-Bumblebee

Just use Everstrike. Its a zero fee DEX. Spread on BTC is usually 0.01% so you just need to make 0.01% to be profitable. Or trade micro Bitcoin futures on CME. I heard that can be pretty low cost as well, depending on broker. Con is that its TradFi and requires lots of starting capital.

Glyzzza_

I'll go for SOL, ETH and BTC

ralphvonwauwau

I'm getting calls and emails from past coworkers about how BTC has "failed".   I bought my retirement fund when it crossed 100K, investing in grandmother stocks since it provides a floor... Right now BTC is a speculative buy. Although I expect it to do well long term, it will be volatile for the 10 years out that I plan.  When I mention this, they seem disappointed that I'm not wearing sack cloth, wailing and gnashing my teeth.

Additional-Mud8745

I bought 0.01 BTC at 62k

MaleficentSkirt8383

Based in your writing, you didn’t study BTC good enough. BTC doesn’t always grow short term, as there are cycles of expansion and contraction, price goes up and down. But long term BTC is always up, especially if timings of your buys were aligned with BTC cycles. [https://charts.checkonchain.com/btconchain/pricing/pricing_mayermultiple_zscore/pricing_mayermultiple_zscore_light.html](https://charts.checkonchain.com/btconchain/pricing/pricing_mayermultiple_zscore/pricing_mayermultiple_zscore_light.html).

Quantum_Pineapple

This is it; these institutions are using BTC like petty cash they just rotate in and out to other assets. BTC will climb you just have to remember this fact.

Mon1verse

Yeah don’t use money to buy BTC that you can’t afford

Usual_Shower_2076

I've noted that ppl like Evan Luthra view BTC as more than a currency and that's is a fundamental shift in web3. For those who understand the long-term utility, daily price swings or mid-cycle pullbacks are just noise or opportunities to accumulate.

Bigshift-2034

The whole point of DCA is to buy, every month or week. Doesn’t matter the price, it’s about the time in the market. Personally I’m buying for last 4 years every month, when BTC goes down by 40% I double my DCA, and only stop when it goes over ATH. Then restart 20% below new ATH.

retracement

Congratulations. Realising and solidifying profits is never a bad thing. Any future rises (and profit) is only theoretical until it happens and you lock in by selling. Your house is likely to hold value. Hope you enjoy your new home and good luck with any future speculation on BTC.

ma7she

Only matters how much BTC you have not how much it is worth in fiat unless you want to sell. Buy more, average down and hold for when you're much older

BTCMachineElf

Yes, forever. BTC Is a bet against fiat, and fiat was built to fall. In the future you can use the Bitcoin as collateral bfor Fiat lones and as Bitcoin outperforms the loan APR, there is never a reason to settle. If you do that, just remember to keep margins that are healthy for any possible future downturn.

Rare_Rich6713

First off, that’s a crazy trade. 20k average to 110k exit is elite timing, can’t even argue with that. And you’re right about consensus usually being dangerous in crypto. When something becomes obvious, the asymmetric upside tends to shrink. But I think there’s a difference between consensus narrative and base asset allocation. Heavy BTC isn’t a hype trade. It’s more like default positioning when uncertainty is high. In early bull euphoria, consensus can kill you. In late-cycle or unclear macro, consensus safety can actually be the smart play. For me it’s less about BTC will 10x from here and more about BTC is the asset least likely to punish patience. And as you can see looks like BTCFi is starting to gain traction which means many are starting to see BTC as an asset to hold for long term and even worthy of staking.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Binance's SAFU Fund has purchased an additional 4,225 BTC worth approximately $299.6 million, bringing its total holdings to 10,455 BTC. The acquisition is part of a reserve rebalance aimed at enhancing user protection. Binance has committed to transparency by providing onchain references, including wallet addresses and transaction IDs, for tracking fund movements. The SAFU fund, established in 2018, safeguards user assets and currently holds crypto assets valued at around $1 billion. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Rob_Cake

BTC could hit $1 and everyone would still be making these posts 

Rare_Rich6713

That’s a painful but very real lesson. Respect for actually admitting it. Leverage feels smart when it works and catastrophic when it doesn’t. Most people only talk about the wins, not the blown accounts. BTC-only isn’t about being conservative, it’s about survival. If you stay in the game long enough, the math starts working for you instead of against you. Sometimes the real edge is just not self-destructing. Anyways what do you think about staking BTC?

Mageant

It also works the other way too, if you miss out at buying at 70k and need to buy at 90k, then you only have 0.78 BTC instead, which means you miss out at $110K.

jchexl

I haven’t used a BTC atm in awhile but I used to use these in Canada like 7 years ago, fees weren’t much more than you’d expect from an exchange, and there was 0 KYC. That being said Canadas cracked down on crypto recently and it’s very possible they have to require it now.

seomajster

We have millions similar assets(cryptos). At least houndred that are really popular. BTC is not that special. Its only popular. Is crypto/blockchain technology dope? Sure. Its hype? Sure. Does it provide tremendous value that change average Joe life? No. Average Joe dont care. Average Joe want to get rich quick, and that's why it costs what it costs. We are on bear market. Crypto crash we see may cause financial crysis similar to crysis in 2008 when lehmann brothers went belly up. Big fishes may just speculate on BTC by buying BTC on lows and creating dumps on high while earning good money by shorting btc. When market will go low enough - big fishes will acumulate BTC and wait years. Global crypto market is worth something like $2.5 trilion USD. Global AI market is something like $300 bilion. In this comparision AI is really something, and crypto is nothing (with few exceptions). Still crypto market is worth nearly 10 times more. Why? Speculation.

GIGAbtcHodl

happy for you on the BTC journey! also interested how many of us will leave the community in this current moment, on the other hand, filtering out community with strong hands is a nice thing

Rare_Rich6713

That's the goal, no matter what BTC cant go wrong, I noticed this morning Binance just bought some BTC around 300M worth. I DCA too lol, and I'm staking on babylon, my target is around 150K which is a clean 2x from here, that's all I need to retire hopefully it happens sooner.

cyclicalwand

BTC dropped from $69k to $15k during Bidens second year in office. Not sure that was ‘just fine’.

defi_farmoor

The ETF angle is what separates this cycle from previous XRP hype. Last week XRP spot ETFs pulled $39M in net inflows while BTC ETFs bled $689M. That's institutional money making a directional bet, not retail FOMO. Add RLUSD launching in Japan via SBI this quarter, plus stablecoin regulation discussions at the White House with Ripple literally at the table, and you've got real fundamentals backing the price action. Not saying it can't dump. But the setup is genuinely different this time. The on-chain activity and institutional flows tell a different story than 2021.

defi_farmoor

Crypto doesn't care about promises from politicians. BTC dropping alongside equities tells you everything: macro still drives price short-term. Tariffs, rate uncertainty, dollar strength. None of that changed because someone signed an executive order. The interesting signal is actually in the ETF flows. XRP and SOL pulled inflows last week while BTC bled $689M. That's not retail panic. That's institutional rotation into higher-beta assets. Long-term the regulatory clarity helps, but expecting a president to pump your bags is peak cope.

rs1971

Maybe it's not FUD. Maybe, outside of BTC, it is all worthless and people have finally figured that out.

WellieWelli

Could be many things. End of war in Ukraine, Trump losing mid-terms, clarity act passing, fed rate change, government reserve purchases, returns on gold & silver go back to normal Any one of these mixed with the fact that BTC fundamentally hasn't changed, institutional adoption is still rising, temporary/ lightweight investors get shaken out after a long bear market and previous cycles seem to control retail expectations.

GPThought

You nailed the psychology here. The mainstream investors who FOMO'd in at 100k-125k are in a brutal spot - they're not ideologically committed to BTC, they just wanted gains. Now they're stuck between selling at a massive loss or holding through uncertainty. The silver lining? This is exactly how diamond hands are forged. The ones who survive this and learn WHY Bitcoin matters (not just the number going up) will become the next wave of true believers.

RichyKisia

BTC will definitely shoot again come December holders will be smiling

eiretaco

House first. Consider DCAing a smaller more affordable amount monthly if you must have some BTC exposure. The money I have in i do not need for years from now.

RichyKisia

I remember in around 2021/2022 BTC went down to around 20000$ and many people sold their BTC. Only for it to hit 100000$ some around 1 and a half a year later. If possible buy BTC at it's lowest

Hot_Roof_7545

Bitcoin often defies expectations, and trying to perfectly time the market rarely works. Holding back because of the 4-year cycle theory can make you miss opportunities. Even buying at 70k instead of 50k, the long-term gains are massive if BTC reaches$500k. Accumulating now, even during a correction, positions you for significant upside. Patience and conviction matter more than perfect timing in crypto, especially with Bitcoin’s history of surprising price moves.

Mundane-Outside8943

So should i Hodl forever? .cause we dont know the next ATH. As recorded BTC always fell 50 to even 80 percent from its ATH severel times in history. whats ur plan ?

Used_Rhubarb_9265

Biggest mistake I made early on was overtrading and thinking I needed to react to every dip. I’d say focus more on understanding custody and risk than chasing gains.  Plus since you’re in Argentina, it’s also worth thinking about access to liquidity. One thing I learned later is that selling BTC isn’t the only way to get cash. Crypto-backed credit can be useful if you ever need short-term liquidity without exiting your position. Platforms like Nexo offer that but I’d only explore it after you’re comfortable with the basics and risks.

DoctorFrosty6219

Miners are in trouble due to energy prices. I’ve read a lot are closing shop because they are losing 1000’s of dollars per day compared to their revenues if the BTC is this current value. If BTC stays like this for a while, and miners will stop, transaction delays will increase due to less computing power. This makes the blockchain less safe. My gut says: sell it all. Don’t wait for the real dip when this becomes mainstream news.

DoctorFrosty6219

Yes they can. Miners are the issue. Energy prices are way too high. Without miners there’s no stable network of transactions. They keep the blockchain safe. If the crash continues, many miners will stop their companies, leading to an even bigger crash. This is going to either be the end of the bitcoin, or a stabilizing factor. I’m pretty sure in the current political and economic environment many people would rather invest in backed products (stocks) to have a bit more stability and predictable income. We’ll see. But my gut feeling is that without miners, BTC is going to be fucked

CriCriSwiss

His match was right because he based it on one BTC not 70k investment. Let’s play nice.

GPThought

This hits different. The "maximum regret" principle is real - BTC consistently punishes people who think they've got the timing figured out. I've seen way more people miss rallies waiting for a better entry than actually catching the exact bottom. The math you laid out is the right framing - 30k vs 50k is a rounding error when you zoom out.

sbudhramk

If she would care about an unrealised loss then this market isn’t for her. Only invest money you can, and are willing to lose. Now, we know BTC won’t ever go to 0 so there’s that.

TapThatYak

Here's a level headed approach for you all that was passed down to me, but also is fundamentally common across youtube. Some short analysis followed up by the easy way to sell out. Lows in percentages down from ATHs: 2017, \~84% 2021, \~75% 2025, \~52% so far This can be used as a guide. Volatility has gone down, therefore he highs and lows are contracting. One can expect a higher than average possibility that this cycle will be down between 62-66%. That puts us in a fair overall drop to $43-48k. (Realistically drop to 50k will be the psychological barrier) Percent increase from Cycle low to cycle low: 2014 low to 2018 low: \~1900% increase 2018 low to 2022 low: \~380% increase 2022 low to current low: \~270% increase If we touched 45k, it will make the low to low from prior cycle will be \~180% increase. Seems low, but once again volatility has come down quite a bit. Let's look at cycle low to cycle highs: 2014 low to 2017 high: \~11500% increase 2018 low to 2021 high: \~2000% increase 2022 low to 2025 high: \~690% increase What's the takeaway: You're never gonna time things 100% correct but you can about 50-70% depending on what metrics you look at and how you DCA. Hint, consider buying when the weekly RSI is below 30 and monthly RSI is below 45. Right now, I assume next cycle worst case will be below 690% increase from this year's cycle low to the next high. Say you buy now (70k), and the cycle low hits 50k this year, and we go up 600%. This puts us at 300k BTC price, that's a 428% return. Say you sell on the way up, 10% at 150k, 15% at 180k, 15% at 200k, 20% at 230k, 20% at 250k and perfectly time the last 20% at 300k. That gives you average sell price at 228k, yielding at \~325% increase. You pulled roughly 54%, 325%/600%, of the overall cycle low-cycle high bitcoin gain! If this happens across 3 years, congrats you just achieved 48% annualized gains. It takes mechanical discipline. If you want your sanity to grow a family and as a person, it's absolutely necessary. If you're wealthy enough and don't care, congrats HODL for the next 3 cycles.

edakaya240

Your approach makes a lot of sense in uncertain conditions. Focusing on BTC reduces narrative risk and keeps you aligned with the asset that historically leads every recovery. Sometimes protecting capital and staying simple is a smarter strategy than chasing early altcoin rotations.

zkrooky

BTC may very well be $30K in one year, while your house will either be 20% more expensive, or already sold to someone else. Don't play with the money you need.

MrNiceGuyEBEB

1. Search his E-Mail account for „Bitcoin“, „blockchain“ or „BTC“ (most likely Coinbase or blockain.info) 2. use AI to assess ideas on how to proceed 3. never share any details (password, user name etc) with either any Nigerian prince or AI 4. don’t answer dms

Jebne

Let me guess: slow bleed until burger dump, they dump for 8 hours straight; BTC -8%, ETH -12% EOD.

Admirral

2.5 BTC is what 200k or so? tbh this is nothing to a lot of people. They have our attention. We should go look if there is any message in the tx instead. or take a look at the sending wallet. It could be a lot of things.

lexxwern

Dumbest comment I've read in a long time. Spot Bitcoin with hard limits (21mil) has supply constraints identical to physical gold, without the burden of storage, transferability and divisibility. Paper gold and Paper BTC are just games and manipulation.

Arijan101

Ok, so BTC did a 3x. Not great no terrible. What else moved except BTC?

Puzzled_Cookie778

People who've been through multiple cycles tend to be traumatized by buying too early, so now they're overly cautious. Ironically, when everyone expects prolonged pain, that's usually when BTC pulls a surprice move