BTC

PolishRifle23

I respect the decision. I’m 4 years from early retirement and will probably hold mine. I got in way too late so BTC is fun money for me.

Leviathan_Dev

Nah, fair. I’m only putting $10 a week in it. The only currency I’m actually putting big money is BTC, and partially Ethereum

ubermensch1001

It's honestly kind of crazy to look back on 2022 through 2024 to see just how much had changed in such a short time window. November of 2022 we had the FTX crash where BTC was at around 16k, fast forward to just 15-16 months later and it was setting a new all time high lol. To put this into perspective with the 2018-2021 cycle, we bottomed out late 2018 and didn't even set a new all time high until late 2020. Again, I don't think it's all that long from now before we cross above 100k and I think once this definitively happens it won't take much for a new all time high. Something I think about is that this is literally the last window where a relatively normal person starting with 0 can get .1+. Let's say we fast forward to the 2028 halving and BTC is trading at 200k or higher, how many people are going to have $20,000 to be able to buy that? Even now at a cost of a little under $8,000 this is difficult for most working Americans. It's actually insane to reflect on this and especially when not too long ago this would have cost you a couple grand or even less than 1k.

Leviathan_Dev

I put $4000 into BTC as it was rising right around 70,000… honestly do wonder if I put it in XRP when it was $1 being now it is $1.50, fastest extra $2000 I could’ve made

Last_Ad_301

Because you can't sell SPCX and re-enter positions in BTC?

ShittingOutPosts

Even the ones that have little to do with digital assets. Most of Reddit does not appreciate BTC.

btc_marshmallow_test

I bought in 2013 and 2014 so there's no proof I'm willing to offer you that isn't easily fabricated. I'm up 15,500% and not selling until I can retire on a small portion of my stack. The rest will stay BTC to retire my whole bloodline.

devCheckingIn

SATA has been trading at par for quite a few days now. That's probably allowed Strive to buy some more BTC.

EricLimbongan

That’s actually where more BTC use cases start to make sense. If you can borrow against it without selling, BTC becomes more than just something you hold.

ubermensch1001

I've been around since 2018. I made a large lump sum move in the latter part of 2022, it wasn't the exact bottom but it was under 20k, and also dollar cost averaged going into early 2023. I then spent 2023 and 2024 building up some alt positions while ignoring BTC. In 2025 I started buying BTC again in the 80ks and 70ks, especially last April. With regards to this year, I heavily accumulated back in February and also here in June when we were in the 60k range. I actually thought about making a final big move a few weeks ago when we were in the low 60k range, but I told myself I was going to wait until late September to early October to evaluate. If we do get a slightly lower low or at least revisit this range in the next 2-3 months, I'll throw this remaining cash in. I think it's a bit too early for things to flip bullish, but we aren't that far off from it either. It won't take much before we are back above 100k and from there setting a new all time high. I'm actually thinking we set a new all time high BEFORE the end of 2027. I watched a video from onchain mind, and the pattern is that the vast majority of the action consistently occurs in the pre halving and halving years while the post halving years are seeing diminishing returns. Basically, we see most of the big gains over the next 2 years and then hit a slightly higher high in 2029 that is otherwise boring. It explains why the blow off tops are becoming less prevalent.

__Geros__

Thanks to DCAing all of my top 3 holdings (BTC ,XMR , ERG ) are safu, well almost all. If ERG dips to 0,15 cents it can go fuck itself

Scottex99

Will be fun to look back when BTC is $600k, like damn I almost got some brooo

InsightKnite

So just to be clear what you are stating is that BTC went up, down and also stayed idle. Fascinating.

Scottex99

Split is fine but what do you do if BTC is $90k next week, keep waiting Or if it goes $70k do you wait for $60k? Just buy now and check the balances in a few months

Few-Engineering9803

I bought the stock at $100, and now it's up to the same level pretty much. In the meantime I get 12% on my 300k initial investment. That's 32k a year without doing ANYTHING. I haven't lost a dollar, unless I sold at $75 (a moron could see this turning back around when BTC fluctuates back up). It's not a savings account, it just slightly mirrors one. It's an analogy. So yes, here I am....silly me, making a ton of money by doing jack shit.

TimeFishing278

Why are you waiting? Are you going to buy 1 or more BTC? It doesn't make much of a difference if you are buying $100 of bitcoin.

KateR_H0l1day

It's exactly the same as mine, but we differ in guesses by $10/20K. Some people would say it would make no difference if BTC hits a new ATH. HOWEVER, id say it makes a huge difference, if you continue waiting and miss the bandwagon 😉

Somening

Do you mean by that that i shouldnt put everying in BTC

FunkyGrass

Yes. Fuck these private companies holding/withholding your own money. BTC was never born to be regulated. Will drop a YouTube video soon calling all these mfs out 🙏

KateR_H0l1day

Last weeks uptick was the biggest since March 2023, but the low Last cycle was in December 2023 at ~$15K. Just don't spend your funds now and you just might be able to buy back in significantly lower. But, don't wait to long hoping for somewhere in the $50K range and miss the opportunity! I still think it's going lower, and you can buy back in at another lower price point, increasing your BTC holdings. Don't let the bulls scare you to much, it's a kind of 80/20% rule at the moment 🤔 Just some musings from a random Internet stranger 🤷‍♀️

Exciting-Knowledge86

Oh no BTC is only up $1.5k instead of $2.5k everyone panic sell!!

Impossible_Excuse937

Exactly, I was tempted when I first saw the offer, then read the small print. I’m not leaving my BTC on there for two years!

anotherbrckinTH3Wall

If you sold a couple of BTC you held from 2016, how did you only make 20k. Something not right with your story

Signal-Fig-2952

First, Coinbase doesn’t need your BTC for solvency. This is purely an incentive to have more assets under custody and to encourage you to trade more. This produces fees and revenue. That’s it.

filenotfounderror

No because CB only offers USDC lemding, not BTC lending

IBAN-IBON64

Bientôt non mais en 2030 possible . Le BTC est une réserve de valeur il ne faut pas faire de trading avec BTC . Ça se garde comme un trésor. Et la patience te récompensera.

Efficient_Range1156

Nice! 3 cycles is an epic hold. So where are you neutral on BTC?

ptrnyc

if it goes to 40k they'll be too scared to buy and will join the "BTC is dead" chorus.

BigNoseParody

It's not ridiculous at all. I believe we are in a bull market and I also believe in BTC, so naturally we will never reach 40k any time soon or ever in our life time. When you start to think about long term and accept this is a bull market now, 40k is just a distant wet dream, 1 million becomes reality.

unusual-fire

Maybe Bitcoin as a whole if it continues to innovate but not BTC which stalled development.

retro_grave

You should \~6-12 months emergency fund in case you lose your job. But if BTC drops to $40k you drop all that shit in because it's an emergency buy /s.

IBAN-IBON64

BTC HODL 💪 tu peux vendre une partie à 250000$

OrangePillar

They are software forks, not forks of the network. Only BCH shares any blockchain history with BTC. With the amount of investment in BTC coming from institutions and businesses, I don’t see how any of the other related projects would have an upside better than BTC. And the price chart reflects it.

Efficient_Range1156

Buy 1BTC back, dca the rest slowly, enjoy life 😊

SoCallMeDeaconBlues1

40k? ffs Maybe if some quantum computer cracks the blockchain or something. People trading magic internet beans need to understand that there is no such thing as a get rich scheme. You either own BTC or you don't. Every single goddamn time.... Every time (!) BTC will pull some crazy shit and wipe out all the leveraged traders in both directions.

False-Car-1218

Gross I'm selling my BTC just because of this post

Few-Engineering9803

I get 30k a year from this, you were saying? It's back up at 97. It's a product that swings with BTC to some degree, who knew lol. It's not rocket science.

Few-Engineering9803

Are the tits with us in the room right now? Back up at $97. A product based on BTC follows BTC....who knew.

Flabarfin

I was at one point all in with ETH. Got disappointed and went more into BTC. best decision ever

Few-Engineering9803

This aged like fine wine, back up to $97. How on Earth did you not see this coming? It obviously follows BTC to a large degree, even a child could tell you that. I'm getting my 30k a year even in a major bear market, seems to be working just fine to me.

peppaz

He's buying with other people's money, and that's when people buy BTC and BTC related holdings.

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Temporary-Cause730

BTC spent 3 months accumulating in the 60-67k range. This is very similar to the bottom at the end of 2022.

BigNoseParody

I believe BTC will reach 1mil faster than 40k. My honest opinion.

PuzzleheadedSea2265

BTC is going to hit 49k. Anyone getting into longs before then are FOMO buyers

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unqualified_redditor

I tried to transfer my BTC off coinbase and they locked my account..

callmeapples

So people are happy he has cash and BTC? Why are people mad?

liquid_at

I look at cycles. Bitcoin cycle is not the only one. financial system as a whole has century cycles, there are decade cycles, bitcoins 4 years cycle, intrayear cycles, down to intra week and intra day. Bitcoin cycle determines when moves can happen. other cycles determine how much ammo is available for it. you can go deep into complex wave patterns, but most of the time, knowing the quarter of the year, where you expect highs or lows, is usually enough to make a plan. I mean, when the cycle tells you that the lowest point is supposed to happen this autumn, while a new ath is expected end of 2028 and end of 2029, because in every previous cycle, BTC has lead the alts as well as followed them, you can plan for that. the better your prediction is, the more precise are your windows, where you expect moves. for me, it does not really matter if BTC goes to 58 or 56k, both are good entries. I also don't know how far above 126k the new high will be. I do know that buying under 58k and selling over 126k, will yield a profit. that's enough to plan.

Lefties_TheWorst7331

BTC only sir

SeemedGood

Shortages (even extreme ones) of a given good do not obviate the value of the standard intermediate good. Rather, they typically tend to increase the value of the standard intermediate good. And yes, when food is extremely short, a standard intermediate good still provides the most efficient means of distributing it relative to all other goods/services in the economy. Value is subjective because individuals have different production/consumption functions and different orders of wants. That a given good may increase in price relative to all other goods (which is reflected by its price measured in the intermediate good) doesn’t invalidate the utility of the intermediate good. Quite the opposite, it reaffirms the utility (and thus value) of the intermediate good. In any famine event in the world, the rich (aka those with the largest accumulations of the standard intermediate good) tend to fare better in acquiring food (or any other extremely scarce resource). The issue with BTC is that its potential utility as a standard intermediate good (aka money) was deliberately crippled, and as such the probability that “people will determine” that it has significant value other than as an instrument for raw financial speculation based on the greater fool theory is extremely low.

Efficient_Range1156

Just maybe with 50 BTC?

No_Community7021

Best BTC book is a conversation with the AI.

biophysicsguy

That doesn't sound wise. 5 BTC amounts to $400k as of right now. Sure I believe that BTC will go to $1 million eventually and if I had $5 million I would probably retire now... but I need to survive along that journey to $1 million BTC. At current prices I would burn through 1 BTC per year and be broke in 5 years.

tapmorz

lite, bch, and other fork is trash bro. Keep it on da real one 💲BTC

3rinnM

Fundamentals and narratives have never been stronger for the industry as a whole, around the world, and in the US. So we, will see… BTC could go on a killing spree and end up with a new dog in the end😅

mcfreiz

I only have BTC and SOL at this point

kajunkennyg

People really believe this? BTC is nothing like it's form years ago when there was no kyc etc. I miss those days.

IAmSixNine

I see that stack and think, oh what error notes or cool serial numbers are in there? LOL then i think BTC.

Soggy_Stargazer

You and so many others. The real pisser is you found a BUNCH of free money, it just wasn't there yet. I mined, thought it was cool, and just sort of kept an eye on things. Tried GPU mining when it became a thing, then I bought some ASICs and validated that the mining calculators were pretty accurate, however if I had just plowed the $400 a month in electricity directly into BTC for the 2 and a half years I ran them I would have done better than breaking even and recouping the BTC I spent on the miners. I've no ragrets for any btc I have cashed in for lifestyle chits and being semi-retired before 50 doesn't suck.

Velvet_Samurai

I'm starting to wonder if I need to sell some BTC and buy a Vespa or two. I had no idea they were worth as much as a used car.

mrhappymillennial

Lol. I'm fire in my 30s. Still have 0.9 BTC. Want to get rid of it, but I can't sell to much in one year as that would trigger a higher marginal tax in my jurisdiction.

Dehyak

Well you don’t own BTC if you’re investing through an ETF. And if it’s with an ETF, it’s on a CEX. During the financial crisis, companies weren’t stealing peoples stocks. Self-custody is great, been doing it since 2018. But with self-custody, you can still get hacked (Coldcard), you can expose yourself through negligence or just bad practice, you can forget your password, lose your pass phrase. It’s all a risk, I still opt for self-custody. But buying an ETF through a CEX does look more and more attractive than custody imo. If my account says $0. I have numbers I can call

Rayjex

Remind me October 5th at 9am tomorrow is theoretical BTC low then next peak is September 2029

YogurtClosetThinnest

>There are bloomberg reports and other big finance companies who say BTC will reach half a mill by the end of 2030 I mean I got in on average probably 70k and I don't believe this at all lmao

CourtneyHffs

I’d recommend Trust Wallet for a general-purpose mobile wallet. It supports many networks and assets, including BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, USDT and USDC.

heisthemaincharacter

When BTC didn’t even break $60k on the Coldcard hack news, that should’ve been a sign. It was already down almost 50% from the $125k ATH. At some point you gotta just take a position lol.

deleted-_-alt

Without a mortgage what do you think I’m buying? Now I have both a house and BTC, kinda the goal in my opinion

loc710

There is no was someone is actually asking BTC or ETH 🤣

quintavious_danilo

I always thought BCH is a direct hard fork of BTC?

Rainforest413

Agree. Bank-managed money works because banks handle macro-level resource allocation, which backs up trust in their system. For crypto like BTC to have real, lasting value, it needs a similar layer of real-world resource integration. As long as crypto relies on traditional market infrastructure for real-world settlement, this friction isn't going away.

Darkstar_111

Problem when BTC drops 50%, it needs to go up by 100% to break even... unfair.

Scottex99

Lol, I’ve been long BTC since 2017, it’s not time for the victory lap yet, don’t go dumping and crying if we’re chopping around 60k again in a couple of weeks

hodler1992

This was not a question of luck, it was a strategy. I had more pain with the idea to miss out on buying cheap than to miss on another 10% discount. I bought .25 BTC which is much money for me. Already over 10% in unrealized profits. I will hodl for 10 years minimum as I am 100% sure 0.25 BTC will be MUCH more worth 2036 than it is today or in two years.

JealousMatch1228

Any update now? Leverage trading is too risky though but I guess 4x is okay for BTC. 57K is your floor, which is less likely to come first.

WealthyKyroYT

I think this is a fun idea , with potential but after BTC has just rallied i would 1. Wait for it to come down, it always does as a liquidity grab then enter 2. If you don’t wanna lose or miss out, only do 2x leverage or better yet, spot trading if you have already started i would consider taking some money off the table now and keeping a 2x leverage

TJack303

I remember my first time investing in BTC

BigNoseParody

Must be shorts as well. These last few days new wave of big shorts have been put through the grinder. They're expecting BTC to fall now, trying to desperately get their money back. Sadly big money is saying no, this is the new resistance level, you bettr get used to it.

cb10gauge

BTC doesnt care what you think.

TrueRead1435

This is basically the Bitcoin cycle 😂 Every time you think we’re finally out of the loop, somehow we end up right back where we started. Are we ever actually breaking the cycle, or is this just how BTC works?

DimensionPrize8168

BTC is like that game Returnal, and I've died around 50 times in that crash.

Sea-Push5285

So tell me, what is the actual link between a chain’s development (SOL/ETH) and its coin price going up? What is their true purpose beyond paying transaction fees? When a chain hits all-time highs across various metrics, how does that performance actually convert into value for token holders? If you use SOL or ETH as collateral to borrow money, the liquidation risk is exceptionally high because they can easily lose 70% of their value within a single year. Staking is essentially just supply dilution—if staking rewards were paid out in USDT, I’d view it differently. Besides collateral and fee payments, why else would anyone buy SOL or ETH? Cut the boilerplate talk about "infrastructure." The Solana chain is a great venue for transferring funds and tokenizing assets, but I can use the network without holding a massive stack of SOL. If you look at it honestly, aren't people just buying SOL, waiting for it to pump to $300, and dumping it onto the next person? The same goes for ETH. BTC has absolute scarcity—something that has never truly existed in human history—which is why it holds value. Meanwhile, SOL and ETH are minted every single day. Furthermore, just pull up a weekly (1W) chart or higher. A real growth asset shouldn't have a chart as ugly as SOL, ETH, or the rest of the crypto market. Look at the charts of actual revenue-generating growth stocks like GOOGL, AAPL, META, or even KO—*that* is what a real growth asset looks like. In reality, SOL and ETH are just trading in a massive range: SOL between $8 and $290+, ETH between $1,400 and $4,900. It’s been six years and they still can't break out of this range, which is terrible. Sure, you can still turn a profit by buying at the bottom of the range and selling on the way up to the peak, but isn't that just buying and waiting to dump it on someone dumber than you?

Hqjjciy6sJr

BTC: Come on buy or sell so that I can make my next move to your opposite

Ashistrash121

I failed to get into BTC early because of articles like this one... You aren't fooling me this time... I would rather be exposed to a "scam" which keeps appreciating in value for almost 20 years now than to keep my net worth in an actual scan that has been depreciating in value ever since it was invented...

-rosslyn26-

Lo prenderei come segnale di minimo se fosse stato lui a venirti a dire brutte cose su BTC. Se lo interroghi tu vale poco.

Kurosaki56843

BTC, ETH, SOL, NEXO, XRP - only solid ones

blaivas007

Follow Pareto principle to manage the portfolio. Avoid shitcoins and stick to the big 3. Use GLI, 50W MA, RSI, Fear and Greed index and BTC.D to gauge the public perception and make the decision of whether to buy, sell, or sit on hands. Only make financial decisions on Mondays, and only follow the weekly charts.

lexicon_riot

It doesn't need more use cases, but it needs more adoption of its existing use cases.  Mainly that means more use as a payment network. IMO the holy grail will be stealth BTC payments. That being a system in which you can spend BTC in aanner that interoperates with any traditional fiat rail. Square is giving us a taste of this so far. You can spend BTC over lightning, and a square merchant will accept the payment, receive fiat, and never know or care you used BTC. PlebQR is based in Thailand, and let's you fulfill a fiat QR payment request with BTC, basically through a p2p exchange where another user pays your fiat bill and receives your BTC. Once this basic concept proliferates more, there will be zero convenience cost for Bitcoiners to spend it. You can easily get paid and spend in BTC, and you won't have to bother with finding BTC merchants or asking "do you accept Bitcoin?" This is how Bitcoin hits the next phase of growth, to sustain a floor well into the six figures. If Bitcoin advocates have the ability to live fully on a BTC standard, things will really start to pick up. I also think stablecoin payments long term are huge for BTC. Not only because stables can operate natively on lightning, but because psychologically it moves people closer to how BTC payment UX feels. Governments will push stablecoin adoption to subsidize demand for US treasuries but it long term plays into our hands.

Taxi-Shinawat

Okay let me know your thoughts about BTC when you come back from the shitter

junkhead_7

>Crypto can survive without ETH, I'm not sure it can survive without BTC. God, I don't really know... the Ethereum blockchain was the first one hosting stablecoins, and I think the crypto space wouldn't be the same without USDT/USDC. So I don't really know if crypto could survive without ETH.

ubermensch1001

I bought up aggressively in the 60k range, even was scooping up in the 50k range as well. However, I kept some cash in reserve for a possible slightly lower low or at least a revisit to the low 60ks. It's great to see the crypto market get some life in it again, but the reality is that this looks like a poor time to be making some big moves. The bears who shorted BTC got absolutely wrecked, but those buying back in thinking the bear market is officially over and that it's game on may also be setting themselves up for some pain in the not too distant future. Patience

Fantastic-Habit3993

At which BTC rate will it get liquidated ? Just asking because it's quite proable that a correction will come before it goes up more.

sheeeeeeeeei

as soon as you sell you will wanna buy BTC back.

d30_v1Nd1c3

Go touch grass and when you’re done and had some time off the internet, buy more BTC.

Noels_Nose

BTC dont need to do shit dude. The lion does not concern himself with lines on a chart.

CharacterStrategy598

Even this recent pump while impressive for a week puts Bitcoin on parity with the SPY. Both SPY and BTC were at 630 and 63000 respectively 6 months ago and are at 770 and 77000 now.

stillonyourmind

The game theory angle is interesting because stealing BTC only works if there's still something valuable to steal, and gamdom shows how much crypto value depends on trust.

No-Stuff-7046

Scared money was the money you didn’t put in when it seemed like BTC was in a downtrend. This is more like fomo and 4x leverage on fomo is called stupidity. Best of luck to you, you’ll need it.

soks86

You would open a short futures position then close it if the price goes down. Buy BTC with the proceeds.

jabs09

Mstr or BTC in cold wallet which is better ?