BTC

Independent_War_4194

2009 - 2025 = BTC is big , shiny object , grabs attention of everyone 2025 - future = BTC fades , quantum/space/A.I. are new shiny objects maybe it will come back but i have my doubts , it would need something like a 50% rise in 1 month or a similar mega thing to be shiny again

SensitiveAd6131

I don’t believe in quantum. Imo it’s 99% hype. Capabilities are there but the outputs of the quantum computers are imposible to read and understand yet. Maybe in 20 years plus? In any case i don’t think I would go all in in anything, we’re close to a big market corrections. I mostly only trade BTC and DCA small amounts on very few projects with low balling limit orders

quintavious_danilo

Where are you from? Bybit.eu offers 2% cashback in BTC to EU customers. It‘s free BTC with every purchase you make. Won’t do much but you need to pay for stuff anyways so it’s a good way to earn some extra BTC.

bbatardo

Strategy disclosed the sale June 1st and from then until June 10th BTC was down almost 14%. However.... Nasdaq was down over 7% and SP500 was down over 4% during that same time period. People like to pretend Strategy selling caused a large dip, but there were bigger macro events going on during that time period. The most volatile assets always have the biggest dips.

Nrs_Vecna

What you guys are not seeing is that the amount is not important. Satoshi wallets held 1.1 mil BTC for the past 17 years with zero movement. İf they were to start getting active again, this wouldnt probably mean satoshi or the methusalahs started selling. It possibly means that the quantum computing finally broke the wallets, and noone is safe, and the fundamental that BTC is built Upon is gone. This is why it will trigger a crash like never seen before. The amount of BTC getting sold is irrelevant. The fear that a government backed group finally got the wallets is enough to push BTC down around %95.

sobe86

> At those prices, an anonymous ghost or group of people instantly becomes one of the top 5 richest entities on planet Earth. We are talking about a net worth that rivals or exceeds Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and entire sovereign wealth funds. You get that someone has to buy the bitcoin off them right? Net worth in 1m bitcoin is completely theoretical, the same way Elon's trilly valuation is. If there isn't a trillion dollars on the other side willing to buy that from them (or if you prefer, willing to trade goods worth that amount), then it's not really worth that. What would happen if they tried to sell in reality is they'd very quickly run out of buyers, the price would tank, and things would normalise. Remember that the price of BTC you hold doesn't matter, all that matters is what you sell it for.

SimpleMoonFarmer

> loaded gun pointed at the global economy Only at BTC price.

mattriver

That possibility is already baked into the price. Believe me, if Satoshi (or anyone) came forward and publicly destroyed their keys — the BTC price would instantly skyrocket. So the argument works the other way as well.

GianBarGian

>Until those coins are cryptographically destroyed This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. BTC can't be "cryptographically" destroyed.

Marlon-Brandy

Haven't people done the same with BTC? Putting their money into a coin created by an unknown person that still holds a large chunk of it, an entity that could be for all we know, a terrorist organization and the purpose of this coin is... well, futile. The "tech" that has been surpassed by most other coins, and even then, most people don't need the tech.

ilovesaintpaul

Anyone who doesn't see how big a deal this is hasn't studied BTC. Really nice.

Reasonable_Ad5611

SATA is a variable rate, BMNP is is fixed. BTC is a non-productive asset, ETH is staked and can pay for dividends forever.

Vipu2

Ok I tried, sent it thru bridge while wrapped in InuDogeAI coin in exchange called youonlywin dot com and I havent seen my BTC, I need you support now!

_Stylite

Ok but the price of bitcoin is tied to MSTR, and that matters. If MSTR goes under and dumps their BTC it’s an existential threat for investment in bitcoin.

SorryAdvertising2566

Rip sub and rip BTC 😭

Shazvox

BTC doesn't 'fail' because it decreases in value.

LiveMinute5598

Try to move 100 million in gold bars easily/securely and now try the same with BTC.

mulletstation

If you're holding BTC, which is fine, as it's basically just at tech stock, you should be comfortable with Saylor and his thesis.

1HashPerSecond

So we know how much the liquidity is high; how fast it's moving. I'm not afraid for BTC

Piccolo-Complete

Years ago (like 5-6 years), there was a growing wave of excitement around bitcoin, ETH, and even some altcoin ETFs or similar vehicles. There was talk of national banks and reserves adopting stablecoins and making them an important backbone of global commerce. Lots of people here believed this was the proverbial foot in the door that would allow crypto to seize and overthrow our current economic systems, bringing equality and wealth, unseat the Global Elites, and blah blah blah. I warned then that everyone had it backwards -- acceptance by Wall Street would mean the end of the crypto world as we had come to know it. BTC would become simply another asset to be manipulated, used as a hedge/relief valve, arbitraged at scale by those with the power to do so, and on and on. The mystique would evaporate, and crypto as a whole would begin to function more like a high beta tech stock for a company that technically can't go out of business, but also will never be on par with the Mag 7. Or even if it did, then it would just be a low beta, high cap tech stock. Successful, but not paradigm shifting. So far, my analysis rings pretty true, but I suppose it's early yet. Any disagreers in chat?

Alternative_Week3023

BTC ATMs have horrendous spread. If you are looking for a Switzerland based exchange, maybe take a look at Swiss Borg: [https://swissborg.com](https://swissborg.com)

Vast_University_7534

Yes, congrats on learning that BTC isn't a business that is for profit. You're comparing two different things, stocks and crypto. BTC is a commodity

Oaker_at

Reading the sentence “it hit me, you’re not buying software, you’re buying exposure to BTC” in 2026 is truly baffling

Upbeat_Acanthaceae41

All of you are missing the point. Of course everyone should do their own research - no one is saying otherwise. What would be helpful is pointing that person in the right direction by giving them what many already in crypto consider basic information. Tell them that there is a difference between BTC and altcoins and also utility and meme coins. That they need to decide what they are looking to do in crypto so that they know what to research (gambling for possible instant riches/investing in projects with potential/storing value as a hedge against inflation). Give them something they can work with without being a jerk. Share your experience without being preachy. Why are any of you even wasting your time typing out a response that is useless by itself. If you don’t want to help then just shut up and move on.

Purple-Wall3847

Isn't this the same guy that a few week ago that was selling? I think it was to generate cashflow for dividends, but it was spun as a scarry signal and "is he giving up on BTC" narrative.

SadExtreme8597

the mining one is wild because it's not even subtle. nobody profitably mined BTC with GPUs after like 2013. these posts get traction because they're optimized for the exact emotional buttons that get upvotes lol

swaaoa

For what it's worth, I work at Clapp and we built ours exactly around that idea: 0% on unused credit, no fixed repayment schedule, multi-collateral (BTC ETH others) so you can spread liquidation risk, and real-time LTV tracking in the app. Not pitching it as the answer, just saying the revolving model exists and tends to suit HODLers better than term loans.

Master-Condition-249

If more companies start holding BTC like this, it stops being “alternative” pretty quickly

Glittering-Local-147

If nano flips Bitcoin which is just as likely as Jesus to return I will admit I am wrong. I'll admit I'm wrong if ANY crypto flips BTC. There haven't been spam attacks anymore because there's no reason to do it, just like there's no reason to kick a puppy. Good luck my dude.

pedroccp1

You just look for trends, narratives and decoupling from similar price action compared to BTC. A good place to start is coinmarketcap or coingecko.

Blade_Runner_69

This sub and others on reddit are getting brigaded by the buttcoin losers this bear market. It's so obvious too, on here it's not so bad the mods usually find and delete the bots and fake info sharpish. But on r/ Cryptocurrency it's a complete shit show of low IQ fud posts, bots and brigading. That sub is borderline unusable now because how negative and hostile it has become. I've seen BTC negative bot posts with fake info on 5000+ upvotes up for days with the mods turning a blind eye. Almost feels like Reddit is compromised 😞

GlockenspielVentura

Anybody who has ever used a loan to buy BTC in October of a midterm year has profited massively, the only people telling you no are people who literally buy the same amount dca, including at peak euphoria around cycle tops.

RevolutionaryTask452

And yet, both MSTR share and BTC went up , so i guess someone knew what he was doing...

TheresNoSecondBest

Why posting a screenshot instead of a link, mate? Strategy has acquired 1,587 BTC for $100 million to increase their Bitcoin Reserve to ₿846,842. They have also increased their USD Reserve by $100 million to $1.1 billion. Sauce https://www.strategy.com/press/strategy-increases-its-btc-reserve-to-846842-and-usd-reserve-to-1-point-1-billion_06-15-2026 Sauce2 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/strategy-spends-100-million-1587-bitcoin

Kanzoo123

Agree with the others — LTV is the whole game here. Anything above 30-35% and you're basically inviting a margin call the next time BTC has a Tuesday. The math people forget: if you borrow at 50% LTV and BTC drops 30%, you're suddenly staring down liquidation territory. Starting under 20% gives you breathing room for a full bear cycle without having to top up collateral in panic mode.

RoboMasterMind

The day it clicked for me, I simply thought it was realistic that a scoop of ice cream might cost 10 satoshis in 50 years. That was reason enough to start accumulating BTC for my children, so that \*their\* children could enjoy financial peace.

manjjinbuu

If you want exposure to ETH or BTC buy them… not the shitty companies….

Comfortable-Ant-418

Agreed, the only case in which Bitcoin wouldn't be used by groups of people we disagree with is if Bitcoin never got any sort of meaningful adoption. I don't know how anyone who understands BTC and wants to see it succeed is stuck on our enemies using it, because this was always going to be the case. Bitcoin is for everyone, that has always been the point. For better or for worse.

ThePugz

I own some BTC @ $16K some @ $30K a bunch @ $50K, a lot @ $60K, some more @ $80K even a bit @ $100-$125K @ bought some more today @ $65K. Just BUY BUY BUY

BryantNielson-QCI

I was at BTC2026 and those panels were jokes. Only Tezor is quantum-ready. The rest are not. Besides, current and wallets are not the only risk. Legacy wallets, wallets that are forgotten or where keys were lost, represent 25% of outstanding BTC, and they are all vulnerable.

NobodyImportant13

The answer is convertible bonds. Google them. Banks view them as basically risk free because they have the upside of equity (in this case the upside of BTC because MSTR is a proxy for holding BTC) and their downside risk is offset by shorting BTC.

citrus1330

This sub is so delusional. I mean I fully believe that BTC will hit all time highs again, but just because it's gone down and up before doesn't mean it will always do so. Mainly what gets to me is how cultlike y'all are, though.

tjlusco

For those sleeping under a rock, there are fairly strict KYC and know who you’re transacting with laws being introduced across the world. It’s the end of the pseudo-anonymous era. BTC has been the black market coin of choice, but it’s about to be undermined by regulatory capture. If people can’t exchange BTC for fiat, the gig is up.

invisiblekyd

Maybe but the dollar is only getting devalued. So in order to argue your point, the asset in comparison must hold its value against the 21 million BTC that ever exists

Glittering-Local-147

BTC 400k+ tx per day (many of wich could be millions each with Lightning) current fee is $0.05 Baby nano fast and free still does under 100k per day. Yikes. Yeah it's more secure, more valuable.

HSuke

Because they don't buy with cash. They buy after selling MSTR shares. And guess what dropped even lower than BTC?

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Good-Examination2239

ETH and ADA are my bags. Strongly considering choosing BTC next depending on its movements in the coming months. Feeling very bullish on Crypto in general given how low these prices have been and how bearish the market has been about the general global situation and the opening of AI tech stocks. I think crypto prices go up much more once things become more stable, it just might take several months first.

EarningsPal

If BTC goes to $200,000 then yes

Muisan

If selling 32 BTC is what's got the market down than how the hell aren't we skyrocketing right now after a buy of 1500?

Prestigious-Ad-7927

IBIT moves with BTC. MSTR is 1.4X BTC. In adddition, bid/askspread is tighter on IBIT vs bitcoin. Plus, I can sell weekly covered calls and puts to generate premium which is used to buy more IBIT and MSTR.

LibertyWithLiquidity

$1.3T market cap might as well be free. You're getting free Bitcoin right now, just so you know. There will be no difference between buying BTC now & literally getting it for free from the faucet website in 2010. There's roughly a quadrillion dollars of (mostly) fake wealth out there & the BEST SoV makes up like 0.1% of that? My brain can't comprehend that. Either these numbers are totally wrong or people are stupid af. Which one is it? Anyway... just bought some more.

TheresNoSecondBest

>That’s not how this works. A BIP-110 soft fork would change network rules They will either, self-fork (hardfork) out of Bitcoin or the whole proposal will fail to activate before August 7th. Bip110 cannot exist in parallel like Segwit for example. That's at least how I see it and why I'm not joining their camp. They're just making drama and attacking Bitcoin instead of trying to work together and change it for better. The vast majority of Bitcoin HODLers don't like NFTs, runes and other crap, and would be more than happy to get rid of them. But bip110 simply isn't the correct way, IMHO. >not require ordinary BTC holders to exchange or move their coins. There’s no need for hodlers to do anything. Agreed. Bitcoin HODLers won't need to do anything, no matter if it's a soft or hard fork.

gigasawblade

He paid with shares, so BTC price in USD is completely irrelevant. He also dumped the price of MSTR shares and then sold them at lowest to fill USD reserve, doesn't sound like such a great move to me

unknowngloomth

Yes, just hyperliquid held strong during BTC dips. The other coins didn't. All of them are down so much from their ATHs whereas HYPE isn't. The problem with alts is that. They're massively down from their ATHs. That triggers a bagholder ceiling problem

Patient_Craft2195

What you're looking for is called 'beta' in crypto. Low beta alts bleed less when BTC dumps and pump harder when it bounces. Check CoinGlass for BTC dominance chart — when dominance drops after a BTC bounce, that's your altseason signal. Also try Messari or Token Terminal to filter alts by correlation to BTC

RandomPlayerCSGO

The money comes from borrowing and he can keep making this buys cause the artificial credit expansion of fiat currencies means he can borrow at very low interest rates. Since he is borrowing at an interest rate lower than inflation that means that yes this can go on forever until either BTC crashes enough to liquidate him or the usd devalues so much that his debt basically goes to 0

SimpleMoonFarmer

Recession → deflation → money printer Then BTC goes to $1M

summ_app

Are we still in the four cycle BTC?

r7232

What does that have to do with BTC?

96933287275978

That’s not how this works. You clearly don’t understand what you are talking about. A BIP-110 fork would affect network rules. BIP-110 is a soft fork, so ordinary BTC holders do not need to take any action to keep their coins.

DankShibe

Doge is the closest thing to BTC. I hold some and never plan to sell ( 2018 buyer and didn’t touch them on 2021 ATH either )

cyger

65% AI stocks. 25% BTC. 7% SOL 3% crap coins.

joos_hubert

I would not borrow just because October looks like a cycle low. That is still a fixed debt payment attached to an asset that can move 30-50% against you before the long-term thesis has time to play out. I would separate this from a BTC-backed loan too. Borrowing against BTC you already own has liquidation risk. Borrowing cash to buy BTC adds leverage before you even have the asset. Both can work on paper, but the bad scenario is ugly: price drops, income changes, and you are forced to sell at the worst time. If it were me, I would buy slower with cash flow and keep the sleep-at-night part intact.

sorites

BTC going up 🤷‍♂️

Freeloader_

yeah, or all stocks will go to zero or an asteroid will hit an earth, or nukes will fo flying either of those very unlikely to happen so you can either worry and watch Bitcoin go parabolic for fifth time and pinch yourself (I knew it!) but didnt have the balls when it matter the only way I see BTC fail is if quantum computing is a thing and they dont have solution for it

Actualizarapp

Muy buena la web he visto el proceso claro de como a partir de la clave privada se genera la dirección BTC

ChainChaneleon

Market impact isn’t just about the BTC amount, it’s about context. A 32 BTC sale can spook people if the market is already fragile and everyone reads it as a signal. A 1,000 BTC buy may be expected, OTC, or already priced in. Narrative moves price faster than math sometimes.

ChainChaneleon

Because “good opportunity” and “50% of savings” are two very different things. BTC may be a great long-term asset, but it can still drop 20–30% after you buy. DCA keeps you alive mentally and financially.

ChainChaneleon

Feels like a classic mid-cycle washout to me. No need to hero-long every bounce. I’d rather see BTC hold $58K–$60K and reclaim $67K–$70K with volume first. For alts, relative strength matters now. Most won’t recover, but the strong ones usually reveal themselves during ugly markets.

Realistic_Fee_00001

> If it was cheap and easy to use, people would use it.. but it isn't.. it's too complex and awkward for most people to engage with. I can only always recommend to read "Hijacking Bitcoin" you will understand BTC is the way it is afterwards.

Realistic_Fee_00001

>Money = Ledger. But BTC is not money anymore. It cannot by a widespread MoE with the tiny tps it has. (it isn't even enough to facilitate scaling via LN)

Realistic_Fee_00001

BTC isn't Bitcoin anymore, it got crippled and stripped of its use case. And you are right, BTC today is nothing more than a gambling token. Bitcoin however was supposed to be p2p cash. Sound money everyone can control themselves and has the full freedom to transact without a third party saying Yay or Nay. That would be quite useful.That Bitcoin is still there, it is just called Bitcoin Cash these days.

-Baloo

Well honestly a lot of the blame lies on the core developers and incentive structure. If it was cheap and easy to use, people would use it.. but it isn't.. it's too complex and awkward for most people to engage with. Seed phrases they need to keep secure, on ramps, tax obligations etc.. The whole UI/UX experience needs to be seamless and smooth, it has to be ***better*** than what Visa or Mastercard offer - else why would consumers switch? In parts of SE Asia they already have blockchain integrated into the banking systems, and you just pay by scanning a QR code with your phone and it settles cross chain inter bank within seconds. It needs to be like that.. users shouldn't need to adapt to BTC, crypto should adapt to consumer behaviour. And yes - from a business perspective crypto rails are actually much better to use today, you get settled almost immediately. But the issue is that consumers aren't interested because the whole onboarding process is a nightmare (which does also come down to governments and existing financial players gatekeeping).

ObeseSnake

SpaceX at #8 with 18,712 BTC Coinbase Global at #9 with 16,492 BTC

Glittering-Elk-8919

I mean, it depends on the loan amount and your collateral etc. But yeah I would say a small loan is not a bad idea. Have a fall back option though in case BTC doesn't go up from end of this year.

znv142

Imagine a world where there is a fixed supply of a currency - the economy would actually collapse. Why would you buy anything if what you buy today will be effectively cheaper tomorrow? What about borrowing for a mortgage? Impossible. You borrow 5 BTC to buy a house. In 20 years you have 1 BTC left, but now a house costs 1 BTC because it's appreciated more. It doesn't work sorry.

-Baloo

Money = Ledger. Money is only ever a means to an ends, it's almost entirely a record of transactions where actual goods are traded, services rendered, who owes and owns what. Everything in between, cash, gold, plastic cards, bonds, notes etc are just a means to represent the values held on the books, on the ledger. BTC is far from perfect - but it IS a digital ledger that is peer to peer vs a traditional centralised ledger where an entity / authority is the gatekeeper. You can place your trust in a financial institution or government with the record keeping if you prefer, but to say that BTC is just a 'digital amulet' is a gross over simplification and really a complete mis-characterisation of its purpose. Maybe your confusion comes from the shills that actually just want to see number go up, when it people should really be \_using\_ it to buy and sell things.

Spitipoti

If the company produces any form of profit, by definition the stock has to be worth at least as much as the profit it generates annually - whether they distribute them or keep them inside the company itself. The market is efficient (although not perfectly efficient) so you can rest assured that somebody will buy your stock if the company is healthy. The same can't be said for BTC, as BTC doesn't produce any profit.

ourcryptotalk

Just another entity for the market to track and crash when they sell their BTC

ourcryptotalk

What did the all knowing tell you? $BTC to $1M when?

pfftlolbrolollmao

With BTC there most certainly is a pattern. It's 4 year cycles. Zooming in any closer is random.

pfftlolbrolollmao

When the last BTC is mined.

Cinq_A_Sept

It’s also v wet y possible that Spcx -‘d the Anthropic IPOs will take a lot more of BTC market share this round. There is a REAL. Competition for funds and people like to chase the shiny new object, which right now is NOT BTC. I’m holding, but will not be buying until we see $$30- $35 K. There’s long therm upside (especially after Spcx crashes hard), but right now? No way.

Freeloader_

>OP shits himself OP being a paperhanded wuss doesnt make the loan bad, it just proves his risk tolerance and knowledge is weak >Paid 60k for BTC and now it's 20k... so? it will go up eventually

zkrooky

Zoom out to BTC's full life. Bottoming at $40-50K USD American Dollars is not impossible.

Moto_Musashi

So basically waiting a couple days for millions of dollars is not worth $10k right now? Yeah, I’d say each person gets exactly what they would deserve. If you think $10k right now is worth more for you, more power to ya. Ima walk off in stride with my (BTC is currently $65,772) $6,577,200 worth of BTC a couple days later. But knowing my mindset is that far removed from these peoples’ mindsets, I wouldn’t even be cashing out. I’d be taking that 100 BTC to the next ATH and retire my whole family and all their kids. People debating this are not in their right minds.

Efficient_Culture569

OP takes a loan to buy Bitcoin thinking we're at the bottom.... We probably are, but let's say unfortunately in about 6 months, for unpredictable reasons it happens that Strategy goes under or something else happens ans bitcoin drops to 40, 30, 20k... OP shits himself. Paid 60k for BTC and now it's 20k... And in case OP takes a loan to DCA, then just DCA as if it was monthly payments.  Because you can't predict the future, its a gamble you're taking. 

baIIern

Calm down, BTC is at 65k. Whoever sold above 85k is still fine

AU-n-Time

Absolutely spot on with the correction analysis here. I am buying as much as I can because I have been here before as well with "blood in the streets". We should see another fantastic bull run starting at the end of this year or early 2027 and it will be a rocket run!! Keep on stacking and HODL with the most diamond of hands and you will be so glad you did. Go BTC!!!!

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows. If these micro caps can exceed 100x growth from here, I will be able to retire my bloodline if I want to.

BottomTimer_TunaFish

In my ROTH IRA, I have BTC, ETH, GSOL, GLNK. I have ETH call options bought at the absolute bottom of the most recent low. Those calls will print if ETH rockets off from here. My micro cap moon bag has ANYONE Protocol and SPECTRE AI, both of which I bought close enough to the most recent lows.

IdleHandsRapidFlight

People are delusional. Stagnant money is lost money.  Banks, or even big tech corporate stock has made 1000% plus dividends in the same time frame.  A weekly DCA of bitcoin since 2019 has only returned 200% and returns per cycle have decreased. People arbitrarily say things like "if you bought low and sold high, BTC was peak" which is asinine because the same is true with if you timed the market on anything...

Goldface_Pharaoh

Im doing the same thing. I think BTC might go down to 20k - 40k. And I will get to buy 1 or 2 bitcoin when that happens. Then I just wait until the price goes back up and sell enough to pay off the loan. If you can make the payments its all good. Plus this opportunity only comes once ever 4 years. Gotta have big nuts though. Its not for the easily shaken.

bimbobandit2016

Just need a god candle on BTC to flip sentiment completely. Adding around $10k in a week should do it

bbaked420XD

So ur telling us u have all ur money in BTC, eh?

CoinXtreme

It is true, BTC will raise in future

Em0tionisdeader

Right there with you. Could you imagine if Nano was the genesis instead of BTC? What would've happened if it was Nano Valve took a chance on in accepting for payments? No fees, no wait times just frictionless, decentralized payments accessible to anyone in the world.

freedomforallergo

You must be new, it's been dropping for 6 years (besides BTC and ETH)

Big_Floor281

I'm from Argentina, I really understand, but generally speaking, I use guttural words; that's what I can do to earn some money for now. Could you tell me how much it would take to become a millionaire by buying BTC? Thanks.