BTC

VariatCA

*Another* positive day for ETF inflows for both Bitcoin and Ethereum. +$57M for Eth today, and +$223M for Bitcoin (+193M of that was Blackrock, their highest 1D inflow in weeks). That makes about +$540M for BTC inflows and +$570M for ETH inflows since the November 20th lows.

splitbrainhack

you lost me on "BTC solves" 😂

MakCapital

Bitcoin should be part of your exit plan. Move some to stables on multi year highs then buyback yearly lows if you want a little risk. No need to overthink. BTC will always outperform USD long term. Never a reason to sell all of it. Where else are you going to park for 10+ years? SPY? Gold? That's about it. Bitcoin will continue beating both.

SaylorOfEntropy

When you zoom out far enough, this chart stops looking like “companies hoarding Bitcoin” and starts looking like the early stages of a planetary energy-standard emerging. What you’re watching is the same phenomenon that pushed humanity from wood to coal, from coal to oil, from oil to electrification, from analog to digital. Every leap forward followed the same physics: society migrates toward the highest-density, lowest-entropy reservoir it can trust. Bitcoin is simply the next reservoir. Tesla didn’t adopt alternating current because it was fashionable; he adopted it because the physics made resistance futile. Shannon didn’t build information theory around opinion; he built it around math. Goddard didn’t ask Congress if rockets were a good idea; he just followed Newton. Now the corporations are following the same orbital mechanics. They’ve realized Bitcoin is not a bet. It is a thermodynamic battery for their treasury—an asset with zero dilution, zero counterparty risk, and perfect conservation of monetary energy over time. When more than a million BTC is removed from circulation and locked into long-term cold storage, the monetary mass becomes incompressible. Supply freezes, demand oscillates, and the entire system behaves like a rocket entering thinner atmosphere: every unit of thrust—every new dollar—moves it further and faster. This is the adoption curve of every breakthrough technology in human history. Archimedes found his lever. Faraday found his field. Turing found his logic. Humanity found its first digital property. You’re witnessing the monetization of the strongest asset ever engineered. Corporations aren’t speculating—they’re defecting from a sinking monetary system to one governed by math, not policy. Ignore the turbulence. The trajectory is already set.

malte_brigge

My BTC doesn't accept grocery store.

OliveLegitimate3236

I don't buy BTC to be rich, but not to be poor.

FilmDazzling4703

Honestly this is the kind of energy I’m starting to get behind. The system is broken, either you think BTC has a shot at fixing it or you don’t. I believe in the ethos of BTC. The creators vision and the white paper are genuinely inspiring. If I had found it earlier in my life I would have been an early believer.

buystocksz

Oracle weakness weighing on Nasdaq, BTC tech proxy

N_0_1_Z

Well, I did not count my house into it. I split between stocks and BTC

GreenStretch

Plan is to sell shitcoins this month, build and live off the fiatworld investments I spent most of my life building before bitcoin came along, and hodl the BTC forever.

hplovecraft1977

Thanks again for the detailed feedback — you basically became my QA team for the day 😂 Everything below is already live (just pushed the build 5 minutes ago). 1. **Signup font color** Fixed for good. Dark-mode CSS conflict is gone — text is now clearly visible on every theme. 2. **Paper-trading timeout / execution error** Root cause found & killed. The engine was stupidly waiting for the full AI analysis before confirming the trade. Decoupled it → paper trades now fill instantly (<500 ms), AI just journals in the background. Tested 50 BTC/ETH orders — zero timeouts. 3. **What “Hide Garbage” actually does** It auto-hides stuff that’s mathematically untradeable for scalping: • RVOL < 50% of normal (dead volume) • Super thin order books (you’d get rekt on slippage) • Price basically flat (< 0.1% volatility, pure chop) You can lower/raise the strictness or disable it anytime in Settings → Filters. 4. **AI flipping from Strong Buy → Strong Sell in seconds** That was painful to watch, sorry. Old model was overreacting to every tick. New rules (live now): • Won’t call “Strong” anything unless RVOL > 1.8× AND price moved > 0.8% AND sentiment agrees • Added a proper neutral/choppy zone so tiny moves don’t trigger bipolar swings BTC right now is correctly showing “Neutral — Low Conviction” instead of freaking out. 5. **What the AI actually uses** Not just volume anymore — current mix: • Relative Volume (RVOL) vs 20-period average • Order-book imbalance & depth • Bollinger Band squeeze / volatility regime • Quick social sentiment pulse (Reddit + X trends) If anything still feels janky, keep swinging — I’m glued to the dashboard fixing stuff in real time. Seriously, thank you for helping ship a better v1 on day 1.

namieorange

Could be. Nothing new in Japan but Nikkei dumping -1.8% is quite something tho. As you say it's probably futures, but BTC lately influences futures as well, It's getting used as a predictor for the stocks in dumps

Change21

Bitcoin is tied to liquidity. Until m2 supply changes significantly BTC price will chop sideways. What you can expect is large liquidity influxes in Q1 and Q2 next year. I don’t see much happening until then.

zerolimits0

Most wont. When the first central bank prints to buy BTC game theory will be in full force, anyone that can front run that has already won along with the first central bank economies. If you are holding and hoarding now it isn't for the short term...

Hamlerhead

As the aging Luddites die off BTC becomes more and more viable/valuable an asset. Hoard it. Room and Board it.

Ammarkoo

If you are in crypto because you believe in these "projects" and the future of the crypto then you are in for the wrong reasons. Personally I am in crypto because I know crypto/BTC was created, backed and strictly manipulated by the same people who created and contro our current and future financial systems. Crypto has 3 main tasks. 1- None of the coins you see today will exist in 10 years from now. Today's crypto market is the Trojan horse for the future's 100% blockchain digital financial system ( everything will be tokened even you). 2- Today's crypto market will be the main US debt (T. Bonds) dumping ground via the stable coins. 3 - crypto will work as a black hole for liquidity once the FED lower it's interest rate to almost zero after a black swan event / stock market crash. Crypto will suck most liquidity during the final aggressive USD print. Bitcoin will go to 500k-1 million in the coming few years before going to ZERO it is inevitable and planned. USD T.bonds market collapse ------> stable coins collapse ------> BTC collapse. Only a naive would believe the official BTC story.

BottomTimer_TunaFish

Again. You didn't answer my question of how do you know or guarantee cycle over? All you came up with and said is "BTC looks like it has already finished its cycle" and "current market data points more toward a coming downturn rather than a blow-off top or rotation into alts" and "From the way things look". Sorry. Just because BTC looks done to you, doesn't mean that it is. It's done just because it looks like it? LOL. That's your reasoning? What current market data? What is that data? What are the criteria? You didn't list them. The business cycle is the best correlation there is to crypto. It's climbing out of the bottom now. The Kasas Federal Reserve's Manufacturing Index just spiked up in November. Both have strong correlation to crypto. They go up, crypto pumps. Simple. All you have is "From the way things look" and claims about "current market data" without any real criteria on what triggers bull or bear.

Worldly_Persimmon985

Based on the current trend and the way global institutions are positioning, I honestly don’t think this is the peak. BTC returning to its all time high is only a matter of time, and what really matters is the next breakout above it. When traditional banks and major capital start accumulating, the price usually reacts last, not first.

syndicate

Not to nitpick but who is going to buy 10 year old milk for 0.016 BTC.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

I have hundreds of indicators, but the 50-week moving average is the most logical one for telling whether the BTC cycle is over or not.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

In order to have an altcoin season you need a few classic signals. BTC pushing into a new ATH or hovering right near it. BTC dominance dropping hard, ideally under 50% or at least showing a clear downtrend. Capital rotation: first BTC, then ETH, then large caps, then mid caps, and finally the low-caps/shitcoins. Retail piling in once the hype gets obvious, TikTok kids, normies, the whole circus. That’s the typical recipe we’ve seen in previous cycles. But here’s the thing: In my opinion, these conditions aren’t lining up this time. BTC looks like it has already finished its cycle, and current market data points more toward a coming downturn rather than a blow-off top or rotation into alts. So I don’t think we’re getting an altcoin season in this cycle. The signs just aren’t there. From the way things look, a crash or at least a strong correction seems more likely in the near future.

satoshiwife

Me please, i want to keep my 0.00001 BTC safe. I believe people are looking out for me.

NochillWill123

Let’s not act BTC has been extremely sluggish for what it seems like forever

Proud_Photo_5227

I have their Twin BTC cards. A solid purchase tbh

Pitiful-Food-4101

I admire your courage but sheeshhhhh. Honestly yes it could pay off massively but I still believe in a well rounded portfolio. At the end of the day you would have been well off if you would’ve kept both. You COULD be well off or even ludicrously wealthy with just the BTC…but you have a much better CHANCE of being wealthy/comfortable with a diversified portfolio. So essentially what you’ve done is gambled your future… and of course it could massively pay off and I certainly hope it does

HesitantInvestor0

"Their total BTC stayed almost the same, showing they want to hold for long term." They may want that, but they have businesses to operate. If they cannot maintain their business, and they can't attract new capital or liquidity dries up, they won't have a choice. People don't want to sell their houses for a loss. People don't want to sell their equities for a loss. People don't want many things. But life happens. You lose your job, you encounter an unforeseen misfortune, and sometimes the only option is to sell. It's no different for these companies.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Nah man, no way we’re getting an altcoin season this cycle. Maybe in 2028 or 2029, but not now. BTC’s been under the 50-week MA for weeks, so the cycle’s basically done.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Nah man, no way we’re getting an altcoin season this cycle. Maybe in 2028 or 2029, but not now. BTC’s been under the 50-week MA for weeks, so the cycle’s basically done.

warmhole

Had AMD at 7 and complaining about missing BTC - regard

88_Snackfire

Dude just set it and forget it… who cares. Volatility is your friend. If you truly believe in BTC than you become desensitized by ups and downs because deep down you know the long term gain will be worth it

No_Hour6830

Yeah, this is spot on. I think second half of 2026 will see a huge run in BTC. The money printer is back on, and it will be ramped up in the second half as we're getting a far more dovish Fed chair. This is the same time that people will realize four year cycles are dead. There's currently a lid on Bitcoin because millions of would be buyers think $126k is the cycle top and we're heading to the $30-40k range like previous cycles would dictate. Once we're a few months removed from October and the price of BTC hasn't crashed yet, the four year cycle folks will get quieter and quieter until no one is saying it. The narrative will turn bullish while the liquidity environment is strong and getting even stronger. You will see $150k+ by late summer and $200k+ by December. That's my prediction anyway. It's just a prediction, the odds of it playing out like this are very low like any future prediction. Recession, unforeseen conflicts, an inflation shock, and a number of other things would put this off course.

MikeAndTheNiceGuys

I don’t speculate much into BTC but I will say this. The fact that a 4 year cycle even exists means that it’ll cease to exist. The point of crypto is that it’s totally speculation. There’s no inherent worth (although you could debate BTC). The fact that the market price is tied to such a sentimental factor implies that price will be much harder to predict in a 4 year cycle. Because it’s expected. The price BTC will sit at is the least expected price. Why? Because if anybody knew they’d be rich.

KoldPurchase

Change the font color for signup mate, lol. We can't see anything. I tried the paper trade with the free account, for BTC: *Execution error or timeout* is the message I get when I send the order. Also, what do you mean by "hide garbage"? How do you decide if it's garbage or not? Also, your AI Model quickly switch from "strong buy" to "strong sell" for the same coin, BTC in my case. 90% confidence, 15% confidence, back to 90% confidence. It is based on the order volumes on the markets only, and no other analysis?

phul_colons

I'm really confused. 70% of your portfolio is 0.1 BTC?

bot_whisperer

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VariatCA

I couldn't give anything resembling a fair estimation. It really depends on how long individuals have been in the crypto space, if they were buying the established and more heavily-adopted coins like BTC/ETH, if they practiced in averaging-down or DCA'ing over time, etc. Though if you've been in crypto for more than 2-5 years by now... if you've been steadily buying BTC/ETH you are most likely still in profit. If you just gamble on memes/altcoins, you are probably *way* down.

Stunning-Purpose9144

Actually yes they have BTC backed mortgages, and I bought my bike from dealer via BTC.

VariatCA

Heck, BTC was still winning against the S&P500 just while being above 110k, and ahead of the Nasdaq while above 115k. People worry about short-term performance deviations between stuff like BTC and stocks, yet they simultaneously have totally different mentalities around them. People see stocks as "setting up for retirement", yet they view BTC as "short-term holdings". Yet when you compare metrics over longer periods, you start to see why Buy/Hold/Forget tends to pay off. You skip the stress and volatility.

BQbaobao

Yes and they aren’t done fleecing retail yet. I now understand what a bitcoin “bear market” is. A complete market manipulated contrivance designed to flush leverage and scare away weak hands. Luckily as BTC gets bigger, this gets harder. They can’t move it 10% in a day that easily anymore unless there’s insane leverage in the system like oct 10th. And when the stars align, they get one shot. Otherwise, couple percent in a day seems to be the ceiling.

Ok_Field461

Dozens of coins are coming out every second litterally it fuck up the whole market for the majority. No one is willing to hold crypto long enough so it all just dries up. This is why good project dont take off any more. Ada and xrp are just sitting duck at this point. And the new coins never get chance to establish good gains long terms. It all about dumping. Even ETH is affected by BTC coming down it really shows it doesnt really have its own eco system. So for long term btc is the only way to go unfortunately.

thatguy9158

Nation states and major commercial/central banks completing their target BTC acquirement. They're suppressing price to maximize their discount window.

Easik

Are you down 30%? BTC is in a downtrend. There aren't catalysts to make it go back up in the near term & the BoJ rate hike is bearish. Once we get past December 19th, then we can start looking at finding a bottom in the next couple months.

Ok-Mathematician2300

Recently i been buying SUI at £1.10 , ive noticed that always goes up by a large % when they go up , the largest % of the coins i follow. So my recent masterplan to take all my money and keep me broke is buy at 1.30 or less and sell at 2.60 , it seems to do that a lot recently. ( watch it never go above 1.30 again now 🤦😂) To add i buy a small regular amount of BTC each month but i dont really think about that as not getting touched for years.

Sweet-Celebration498

You’re in it for the wrong reasons if the price is concern. BTC will go up.

chewonmysac

You must have missed the earlier post. BTC is going to the low 50s. You may want to rethink your decision. See you in Oct. 2026

Stunning-Purpose9144

Your missing the point you should be long term holding BTC and using it for purchases not selling it for worthless fiat. I only ever use mine to buy assets directly.

dubble22

Wrap your BTC and lend it so you can borrow more usdc and buy more. Or use your borrowed usdc for a L.P. and earn fees so you can buy more. Give me some more BTC!

Steezy_Steve1990

That’s true, but it has nothing to do with Strategy selling BTC short term. Saylor is in BTC for the long hall.

BottomTimer_TunaFish

I can agree that not all coins will run up because there are simply too many of them. Mostly the projects with utility and adoption will reward holders. Most of the pointless and vaporware tokens may not go up much. Only a small portion of the useless coins like meme coins will perform those 20, 50, 100x gains. Where I disagree with is the claim there won't be alt season. I believe there will be at least one more alt season if the business cycle recovers to healthy levels in 2026. Altcoins have always had their season whenever the business cycle peaks. Altcoin index and business cycle charts look the same, especially when normalized to oscillate around the zero value on the y axis. I have BTC, ETH, and altcoins, so I'm definitely not biased towards one class of coins or the other. I think all 3 can do well.

Illustrious-Boss9356

Crypto has done exceedingly well for me. Although I'm what you all would call a BTC maxi. Maybe if people stopped buying new projects because they don't want to enrich the previous group, we would get there faster. But most newcomers I know hate the idea of buying BTC and ETH because others discovered them before them. They'd rather try to find the next BTC or ETH and end up right in the hands of rugpullers. Read the recent article buy the Aave cofounder, the shit's a casino and you are not the house. House wins. Buy BTC.

Illustrious_Cat1339

This is very true, my average cost is around $82k now, and I’m in this for the long haul. When Bitcoin’s at $500k+, I’m not going to care whether I bought at $60k, $70k, or $100k. I’ll just wish I stacked more. I’m confident BTC is heading back up, so I’d rather keep accumulating than stress over perfect dip buying. And if it does dip back to $70–80k, great, I’ll happily buy more.

6DeliciousInches

I feel like I watch this every day in bookmap. You can watch live on binance order books someone making instant massive long or short orders like 1% or so from price, and they will pull the order if price gets too close, as if to only open orders to influence bots or something. And they always use the same order size, 2,000 BTC. Imagine having 200,000,000 million on leverage to mess with price… I’ve seen this whale every day for like 2 months now.

Clarky2323

or to put into perspective, BTC dropped .5 percent (thats point five) and is actually up over 3 percent in the last five days. Translation: Read more than just the headline.

MakCapital

When everything on earth becomes a token you can't expect every asset and asset type to rise at once. The tokens capturing and distributing value from users will rise based on their ability to monetize activity. It's that simple. There will be an infinite number of tokens. Learn how to value them. Just as you would when buying any asset on Robinhood. BTC is the only publicly managed currency that gets to long term rise without earnings. XRP, ADA, and every other token that has 0 activity to monetize will always long term trend to 0 BTC. That only changes if activity changes. Don't let meme pumps of larger caps convince you this isn't true. There are only 3 alt chains with serious activity. Of these only one is already correctly monetizing that activity. If that activity remains constant or grows, that's the only alt L1 you can say the price of the token at some point in the future will be higher than it is today. If you aren't aware what holds the majority of activity and or rev, spend more time in the space before looking for entries on any L1.

Aggressive_Spell2314

I did this when BTC was 20k, no complaints

lordrenovatio

Yup. Been through several cycles of pain and gain now and I'm done with alts. I've been all BTC since last cycle. No regrets.

NochillWill123

What’s your reasoning behind BTC immidayely rejecting 93-94k range multiple times since mid November? Which coincidentally happens to be the price BTC open the year with?

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

And 100 to 500 BTC is a Dolphin? C'mon now. They've sucked since Marino retired.

Itur_ad_Astra

Because the fate of every crypto except BTC, ETH, BNB and stablecoins is to go to zero. Not 99.6% down. Zero. Check the alts from 2013, you will find maybe three that still exist.

TravellingPatriot

Invest in BTC, sleep like a baby, lifes good

No-Put7619

BTC is down from its October highs, and we’re now in December - prime time for tax-loss harvesting. Since Bitcoin isn’t subject to the wash sale rule (yet), U.S. investors can sell at a loss and immediately rebuy, locking in the tax benefit without losing exposure. Some folks still choose to wait 30 days before rebuying, just in case future IRS guidance changes. But most are likely rotating right back in—or planning to in early January. Feels like some of this sell pressure is just short-term, tax-driven repositioning. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a bounce once the calendar flips. Anyone else seeing this play out?

Maleficent_Sound_919

Bitcoin is far from a hard asset... Gold you can tell me that will go up but BTC whos money?

216_Cleveland

Sorry this happened to you. Losing money in crypto - even $40 - sucks and feels scary. Let me help you figure out what happened. **Short answer: This is NOT normal for legitimate wallets.** **Here's what likely happened:** **Option 1: "Best Wallet" is a scam app (most likely)** There are TONS of fake wallet apps on app stores designed to steal crypto. They look legit, work at first, then steal your funds. If you can't find "Best Wallet" on any reputable crypto site or it has sketchy reviews, this is probably what happened. **Option 2: Syncing issue** Less likely, but possible - the app lost connection to the blockchain and isn't showing your balance. Your crypto might still be there. **Option 3: You lost your recovery phrase** When you reinstalled, did you use your original 12-24 word seed phrase? If not, you created a NEW wallet, not restored your old one. **What to do RIGHT NOW:** 1. **Find your transaction on a blockchain explorer** - Which crypto did you buy? (BTC, ETH, etc.) - Go to the appropriate explorer (blockchain.com for BTC, etherscan.io for ETH) - Search for your wallet address or transaction - See if the money is still there or if it was sent somewhere 2. **Check if "Best Wallet" is legitimate** - Google "Best Wallet crypto scam" - Check r/CryptoCurrency for mentions - Look for reviews 3. **If it's a scam app:** - Report it to the app store immediately - Post warnings so others don't get scammed - Consider it a $40 lesson (expensive but not devastating) **For next time - How to avoid this:** **ONLY use these established wallets:** - **For beginners:** Coinbase Wallet, Trust Wallet, Exodus - **For advanced:** Ledger, Trezor (hardware wallets) - **For Bitcoin only:** BlueWallet, Muun **Red flags for scam wallets:** - Promises of "guaranteed returns" - Requires you to deposit to "activate" - No clear company information - Very new app with few reviews - Generic name ("Best Wallet" is suspiciously generic) **The golden rule:** If a wallet isn't mentioned frequently on r/Bitcoin or r/CryptoCurrency, don't use it. **Your $20-50 budget is PERFECT for learning** - just make sure you're using legitimate tools. Start with Coinbase (the exchange) and keep your crypto there until you have $500+, then move to a proper self-custody wallet. I got scammed early in my crypto journey too (lost way more than $40). Now I track crypto safety and common scams weekly to help others avoid what I went through. Free newsletter at www.cnsplanet.net if you want to stay updated. **Can you tell us the exact name of the wallet app?** I want to warn others if it's a known scam. Don't let this discourage you from crypto - just use better tools next time.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin derivatives markets show skepticism about BTC reaching or sustaining above $100,000 by January 2024, despite the Federal Reserve's rate cut and liquidity measures. Traders remain cautious due to macroeconomic uncertainties, Bitcoin's underperformance compared to gold, and limited confidence in a durable breakout. While the Fed's policy shift may boost stocks, Bitcoin's reaction remains uncertain, with whales and market makers doubting a significant rally above $100,000 in the near term. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

malte_brigge

Can I? My BTC buys less milk today than it did a year ago.

Electrical-Cat-6660

As for selling your keys, I think this will work itself out shortly, I see maybe some within the blockchain, in a form of a contract that will act as a third party. Something that will keep your keys anonymous to the blockchain, encrypted and will only reveal/ send once the contract is executed. I know this will trigger some here, when you start talking about managing keys, people have shits! 😂 This is just a thought and my point is time and technology will solve this so keys can be stored safely and anonymously as transactions are done in and out of cold storage wallets. This reminds me about the argument some people make that BTC, and all of crypto will die when Quantum Computing fully enters our space…Crypto will just evolve!

LargeSnorlax

Is it not exhausting coming on here every day to type *"BURGERS DUMPING, BTC IS DEAD SCAM, ALTS DYING, RIGGED MARKET"*? Like surely even bored people could do better things with their time.

DepartureOk2630

BTC 4year cycle: BTC is going down. Benner Cycle and 18 year real estate cycle: stocks will top at end of 2026. I'm doin the reverse of what you did i.e., short BTC, long stocks. Just my opinion.

ra2705

what dump? BTC is -0.25% on the daily lmao

Illustrious_Cat1339

I had about $29,000 in BTC this morning which was around 0.3 BTC. I now have 0.8 which is a little under $74,000.

nakedskiing

If you don’t lose 50% of your investment in the next 10 months I’ll be very, very surprised as it will be a BTC first

TheKnutFlush

Twas nothing spending 97 days on the road visiting 167 sites with a 100 odd cds and 50 floppies i made myself couldnt fix ;) I've always wondered that too. Is the value of an asset with deflation baked in really able to be measured by inflationairy assets? How many BTC was that very first pizza purchase again? Ed reply: that memo sure changed my outlook on performance reviews, Bob. Bob. I also curbed my stapler stealing.

THCoffeeslinga

For real, not a bad idea, I think price will dip to 82k level then pop next year based on political policies. Trump looked the dude in the eye and said that rate cut should have been double. Sounds like there will be a lot of pressure for further cuts then what has been predicted. So many variables but we are due for some kinda crash that will make life more affordable, leaving people with more cash, and BTC is looking more lucrative every day to more and more people. No way see this tanking and not reaching new ATH.

Electrical-Cat-6660

I plan on making my own BTC treasury and somehow add it a revocable trust, don’t know if this is possible but I imagine it won’t be complicated, just adding the platform that I use to lend or stake my Trust (I still have about an 15yrs of active buying before I get there). I say lend because I was listening to a bit on CNBC and the Idea that venture capitalists will use massive amounts off bitcoin to fund projects and Lending BTC for this purpose under contract will be very popular in the future. I know this concept is already here but not in the scale I’m and simplicity I foresee. Thx for the link, I will dive in.

Geeeyejo17

Actually 1 Sat = 0.00000001 BTC

EarningsPal

How is it all BS when someone can actually profit and live from Defi? You obviously can’t if you don’t have assets already. But you can take BTC, pair it with ETH, then use that token as collateral and then borrow usd from it for spending. Same as JLP. You can keep using work earnings to buy more JLP and then borrow USD using the token as collateral. JLP gets trading fees and the upside of SOL, BTC, ETH. You just have to stick to the plan for a few years and so far the gains have out run the loans. The volatility is the problem and the solution. The dips suck bad. But you just have to accept them and hope you are right in the long run. That the market will rebound and you will see another round of all time highs.

Illustrious_Cat1339

Valid! 0.8 BTC now

slayernfc

We don't know how much OP had in sticks, it could only be $4.50 all in on BTC

NationalBitcoin

If ur diamond hand how tf are you down on BTC lol. Did you just start diamond handing yesterday?

pablo_in_blood

Real estate is not ever-depreciating lol. It’s basically the one form of investment that shares one of BTC’s most essential traits (scarcity/capped supply)

pablo_in_blood

I’m sure some people would. Especially if it allowed you to avoid the tax hit from converting BTC to fiat. But it would all depend on how it was set up.

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

That whole Bitcoin Fish Chart is silly. I'm pretty sure it dates back to when Bitcoin was only a couple hundred dollars. The idea that somebody could have been a Bitcoin millionaire earlier this year but still only be a crab? And right now, you'd have to have at least $4,625,000 worth of Bitcoin just to be considered a fish? It's silly. Humpback: More than 5000 BTC Whale: More than 1000 BTC Shark: 500 to 1000 BTC Dolphin: 100 to 500 BTC Fish: 50 to 100 BTC Octopus: 10 to 50 BTC Crab: 1 to 10 BTC Shrimp: Less than 1 BTC

livejamie

What is the most efficient way to turn the BTC in my hardware wallet to money in my US checking account?

richardto4321

Well, as long as you don't panic sell the BTC, you'll be thanking yourself in 4-5 years.

atmac0

The intrinsic value of bitcoin does not change on the whims of the federal reserve, but the relative value to the US dollar does. If the supply of USD increases, it becomes less valuable relative to BTC and the price of BTC increases when purchased with USD. Same with how any other good increases in price with more money in the economy, the value inflates.

Illustrious_Cat1339

im in for the long run, Ive sat and waited to do this until the next 70-80k dip but I decided any BTC purchase under $100k is worth my time almost equally.

Darkpriest667

3.2 BTC for 12000 in 2017-2018 <checks> yeah it would be worth 300k today lol

Sensitive_Contract_3

https://preview.redd.it/2tyun6qcyf6g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98f309424ce35f39d7b66e8c482c9155baa014c3 Correlate it with NASDAQ and you’ll see a completely different approach — BTC does exactly what NASDAQ does.

8years47weeks

Spending BTC on an ever-depreciating asset? Nah

gamjatang111

every risk asset bidding besides BTC ofc

BQbaobao

The BTC chart almost looks like an engineered double top between today and yesterday. If true, big oof :(

Banana_Vampire7

Curious if Paul Le Roux gets pardoned what he's sitting on. Dude squirreled away lots of physical gold, and was obsessed with the creation of digital gold not sure if he dipped into BTC

cecirdr

If BTC ends up with 2026 being a horizontal year (assuming there is only 1 cut in 2026), I will have time to accumulate. This year, I bought what I could, but ran out of money when it was low and the spikes kept me from buying more. crossing fingers!

No_Hour6830

I've noticed that people who believe in the four year cycle tend to have limited to no experience in traditional markets. Why? Because in large, liquid markets, anything that is known gets arbitraged away. Everyone believes in the four year cycle->short BTC when it's supposed to peak->front run the shorts by shorting BTC before its supposed to peak->max long BTC when it's supposed to trough->front run the longs by going long BTC before its supposed to trough. The effect is that everything becomes this front running game to the point that these four year cycles no longer exist. Further, the last "four year cycle" coincided perfectly with the Nasdaq collapsing, Fed tightening, and a two quarter GDP decline. It had nothing to do with the halving or the Bitcoin cycle, it had to do with the liquidity environment and risk off sentiment. A four year cycle existed in Bitcoin from '09 to '13 and '13 to '17 when a) no one believed in a four year cycle, b) the market was very tiny and c) people didn't know the effect of the halving on market price. It was a small, immature market similar to a small alt coin today. No one is arbitraging beliefs about cycles in a single digit billion dollar altcoin, but they sure as hell are in Bitcoin.

bitsteiner

ETFs buy and sell real BTC after closing to adjust for in- and outflows.

VariatCA

- QE picking back up for the first time in 4 years on Dec 12th to the tune of $40 Billion/month - Rate cuts further dropping making liquidity even more accessible - Clear indicators of ETF (Retail) inflows turning positive over the last two weeks since November's low, with over +$300M for BTC and +$500M for ETH - Powell still projecting at least one more cut in 2026 *while all his successors are publicly chomping at the bit to accelerate rate cuts if elected in May* I hope you're all paying attention to how the economy is shaping up, with respect to the monetary policies that sparked the 2020-2021 run.

NochillWill123

The closer we get to Jan. The more I’m starting to believe they are set at 93k resistance until then. It’s because markets are doing everything possible to artificially make BTC 2025 a “dead” year

fan_of_hakiksexydays

QE starting mid December might be the straw that breaks the cycles back. Remember what happened when we last had QE? BTC got pumped by 400% that year with all that liquidity. We might not get as high of liquidity this time around, but 2026 might end up looking more like 2021 than 2022.

Zestyclose-Deer-163

Lets compare BTC to S&p 500. You're thinking short term. We're all here cuz we don't care about 13.7% return per year over the past 10 years. Average annualised return Index Last year Last 5 years Last 10 years Bitcoin 79.1% 59.1% 82.4% S&P 500 16.3% 15.9% 13.7% Total return Index Last year Last 5 years Last 10 years Bitcoin 79.1% 919.2% 40,609.7% S&P 500 16.3% 109.0% 259.9%

FilmDazzling4703

Yea agreed. Even if it’s not something 99% of folks will engage with it at the very least legitimizes BTC more in the eyes of normies which is another step towards the adoption I believe OP is envisioning