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Bowlingkopp

I feel you. I was in DefiChain and made about 100k through it, with liquidity mining. Had about 0.75 BTC and the rest mostly in DFI (DefiChain). Then the inflation started to kick in, the FTX breakdown and I don't remember what else, but DFI went from 4.5$ to 0.35$. So my crypto portfolio went down from 130k to 17k, I think. That was a hard time. The could have should have game doesn't help you. My stocks went from 60k to \~30k. Meanwhile I'm at 70k with stocks and crypto, but the latter I sold last autumn. Try to learn from your mistakes and make it better. What I learned is, don't fall in love with an investment and diversify. Base your investment decisions on facts. And if these facts change your decision has to change. If that means sell, then sell. And if you're still in crypto, sell the rest. This is not the end of the bear market. Microstrategy and Saylor are going down and BTC with them. When they are gone, BTC may be able to get up again.

Vinnypaperhands

>Probably someone did but I bet someone paid with apples or pokemon cards too. Are we going to claim those are money too? What is your point here? My point was people do indeed use BTC to buy things after you said no one does and your response is "well people trade something with apples is that money too?" What the fuck ? >Bitcoin is nothing like gold. At least you can take gold into actual self custody, can't do that with Bitcoin. It's like a vault you can never take things out of, only move the contents to another vault. Are you sure your vault will be accessible in future? Wait hold up...... Do you not understand that you can self custody Bitcoin???? Are you actually fucking joking me...... Aren't you the same guy that said " I know more about Bitcoin than you think" AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW YOU CAN SELF CUSTODY BITCOIN!?!?! hahahahahahahah bro you can't make this shit up. Do you understand anything about Bitcoin are do to just like arguing about things you don't understand? >Time will tell signals uncertainty or otherwise known, a lack of confidence. Do I have start paraphrasing the dictionary now or what? No. Just no. Actually yes, post the definition so we can both laugh at yourself. Fuck it I'll do it. (idiom. used to say that the results of a situation will be known only after a certain amount of time has passed) This saying has absolutely nothing to do with lack of confidence. What else would you like to be wrong about? I'll do this all day homie >Nice. Now take any crypto chart, cover the part where the rug pull happened with your hand and you should now be seeing a marvelous chart. What a great price history on that chart right, who wouldn't want a piece of that? Now remove your hand. Dates. Give me a date. When do you think this rug pull happened. Who performed it? Let's discuss >Just to make it extra clear, I just demonstrated price history is no guarantee for future results. Got anything else captain obvious? You going to tell me we all have limited time on this earth? You going to tell me the sky is blue next? Amazing

Leynnox

SOL is not a bad idea, when the market is this red, you'll see only new BTC maxis on here, because they lose too much on alts. SOL is great because you can stake them for like 7%, means every year you'll gain 7% of your SOL amount. You can't do that with BTC sadly, so if you're here for a long run, it's definitely an option. You can stake from your cold wallet.

Upwardcube1

Hey man, if you think theres gonna be a dip, you’re allowed to sell off… whether it’s a fraction of what of have or all of it. It’s just about what you want to risk 🤷‍♂️Your 1.2 BTC could’ve been 2.4 BTC if you sold all at 125k and went all in (with the same cash) right now, then wait until it hits a new ATH to sell again (or don’t, depends on the risk you wanna take). Just never sell if you are in the negative…

Mr--Clean--Ass-Naked

oh yeah, the mods got a power-trip over a comment I made (not ban-worthy), so the mods dug thru my post history and permanently banned me from a post like 1 year ago about me criticizing BTC that was not relavant to the conversation at all. it gives "discord mod" energy, like bro it's just reddit you own and control nobody lol

Ztoxed

Then you need to stop using BTC because there is, there are Whales that if just a fewe decided today to sell you and everyone in this Sub would be pennyless, God I hate when ppl post stupid shit like this, you give ppl false hope. BTC is gambling stop trying to rip ppl off saying its not. No wonder so many of you lost money on BTC. I have made money on BTC because I am not a fool and know how to gamble with it, Good luck LOLOL

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starswtt

Crypto is super volatile, crashes happen all the time. Sometimes the coin just kinda goes down like any asset, and then that triggers a wave of automatic sell offs that see the price dropping and sell off, and that in turn crashes the value of BTC further, which triggers more sell offs. And then once the automatic sell offs stop, people either lose faith in BTC, which triggers more sell offs (and if this happens often enough, BTC will be worthless), or it hits a stable floor from which its value starts rising again (triggered by people seeing BTC being cheap and wanting to buy it in hopes of it gaining value.) Other assets like stocks and gold do the same thing, but it's not as dramatic bc either they're tangible assets that physically can't be sold off that quickly (like gold), have significant enough real world use that speculation alone isn't the biggest driver of demand (like oil), or have trackable metrics that investors rely on more than just price, so automatic sell offs happen less quickly (like stocks), or just have enough history/tangible value that trust is high enough that people don't sell off as aggressively when the market is bad (like every common non Bitcoin investment that's any good.)

Hi-archy

When I need to sell, when my balance is enough for it to drastically change my life. With BTC it’s just a waiting game, the longer I wait, the better the return. For some people it’s a savings retirement, for others, it’s a get rich quick.

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identiifiication

Well BTC likely is to form a shoulder to the head and shoulders formation but I think entry points to holding long term should be starting from around January 2027. Bear markets are very cruel, especially to alt coins. Learning to stay away from low-cap altcoins.

Patrick_Atsushi

I don't like that "cycle pattern" very much since it's like a self fulfilling prophecy like a horde behavior, however it's also a good thing that it sort of keeps BTC alive after so many rounds.

uncapchad

a total of 2 000 BTC — not 2 000 BTC per user airdrop intended to distribute 2,000 KRW (less than $2) as a random prize, but a staff member accidentally entered BTC instead of KRW created a massive artificial supply shock on the exchange, triggering a 10% price drop on Bithumb’s Bitcoin market compared to global prices Some recipients allegedly sold the Bitcoin immediately, accelerating the price drop on the exchange

frybreadtherefore

BTC is trying to establish an institutional-grade legitimacy, which suggests that the level of volatility and upside per cycle will diminish from an x multiplier perspective. Approx 23% of crypto is held by retail, defined as 10 BTC or less. Approx 80% of that 23% have wallets containing 0.1 or less BTC¹. There are whales out there with 100,000 BTC who have been buying dips, accumulating half of their stack by buying into the sell off (absorption); and in doing so they prevent price spikes. Given the maturity of BTC to other crypto assets I'd put a high probability on a 60% ish retracement from it's ATH, based on psychological levels and my belief that price is still slightly above fair value. Institutions in my view, including those offering ETFs want to hoover up retails coins at the best possible price. Note that ETFs have to hold a corresponding amount of BTC to the ETF value. "In BTC terms the aggregate demand is roughly 4,500 bitcoins daily and exceeds bitcoin daily mining production by 500%. Under existing conditions, it would take 202 days to produce the bitcoin that was sold through ETFs in the initial two months of trading"². With web3, AI and agents on the horizon I think BTC as the fundamental building block of the crypto ecosystem has a future. Paying agents through smart contracts requires a trusted layer 1 blockchain for the L2 functionality to operate on. Now this could also be done through CBDCs running on separate permissioned blockchain or ledgers, rather than bitcoin and public crypto. Lastly, CDBCs whilst immutable, would allow transaction reversal and moves away from an algorithmic consensus governance model toward a model that enables central bank intervention (human/legal). So I think down the rack they will try and impose CDBCs and exert control, whilst buying up bitcoin and peehaps holding it in the way wealth is held in art and collectibles like wine. ¹https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2026/01/30/retail-traders-are-running-for-the-exit-amid-bitcoin-s-selloff-while-mega-whales-are-quietly-buying-the-dip ²https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5452994

aaj094

He thought BTC was designed to give him a steady line up on a daily basis like a bank fixed interest account.

Aerocryptic

On what thesis do you think BTC was built upon? To offer an opportunity to have a form of money that is not inflated by the will of Central Banks. So how did it fail exactly?

MrCalabunga

Is anyone really surprised here? Unlike AI, blockchain and crypto never saw the adoption that so many on here said was inevitable. Instead we just got more shit coins, this time minted by the American King. The entire thesis BTC and crypto is based upon has failed. Crypto was, in fact, used almost exclusively for crimes and scams. All that talk of effective altruism? Now we know it’s bullshit. This is it, fellas. It’s been fun losing money with you all.

hoppeeness

I mean it is the biggest % drop since FTX and the biggest dollar drop ever for BTC in a day…sooo it’s not “normal”.

jzen93

Don't make the same mistake twice, just stick with BTC and ETH.

PickingPies

Really? Did you sell your BTC before the fall started?

PickingPies

So, why don't you short BTC for the following 4 months if you are so sure?

this_nice_demon

All crypto, including BTC, ist just an Alpha test for CDBC... U should know it

malin7

If you bought in 2019 when BTC was at $5k and still haven’t sold at $120k last year, at what point do you get satisfied to finally sell?

Party_Operation_9711

I hold BTC ETH and LINK. ETH for smart contracts and stablecoin market. I love link for CCIP and think it is going to be invaluable infrastructure in the future.

twitch4685

I did the exact same in November 2021, I had no idea what I was doing, fuck I wish I’d DCA’d in Been in crypto 4 years, could have sold when BTC hit 126 but I didn’t as I didn’t think that was the peak of the cycle, how wrong I was I’ve made no money in those 4 years, but would have made a fuck ton more if I had DCA’d I could have continued to DCA after putting in a lump in November 2021, but circumstances changed and I didn’t have the funds to add to DCA I’ve now started DCA at this low, making daily purchases

Icy_Raspberry8592

You might have better luck here. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Bogleheads/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bogleheads/) Most millionaires simply stuck to a budget & and saved their entire lives with their money stored in a combination of index funds and treasuries. No, it's not sexy, but it works. This sub seems to be mostly filled with grifters, kids and small time gamblers who think $ 100 / mo in BTC purchases will pay for their retirement at age 35. (It won't. In all likelihood, that ship has sailed.)

CyberCrud

Cycle deniers become my exit liquidity.  Nothing you said was untrue.  Winter will last through spring 2027 then it will steadily rise to the 2029 ATH.  And anyone who doesn't believe this and who thinks BTC will go to $1M can cry in 2030 while I'm diving into cash like Scrooge McDuck.  🤣

CyberCrud

Exactly.  And I called a $125k ATH in 2022.  It hit $126k, so I'd call that pretty close.  2029 I'm predicting just over $200k ATH... possibly $250k.  But I'm selling around $195k.  Because once it hits $200k, the bots will sell off and it'll stay flat in the $180-190k range for awhile after that.  From there it will likely ATH but I will already be counting my stacks and reminding y'all that profit taking is a good thing.  Meanwhile folks will be wishing for $1M BTC while crying in 2030.  

DankShibe

There is an existential crisis . Trump doing mad things and tensions with Iran . And also the Epstein files that include many individuals with great influence to the economy. For example Microsoft lost 400b due to bill gates being on the list. All that money cause a ripple effect that also affects crypto. Also Epstein involvement with BTC causes negative hype .

Abject-Stretch-1187

Yah lots of people who barely grasp BTC think it’s some play to accumulate inferior assets so they sell and then in a few years time they realize they won’t be able to get anything close to the amount of BTC they once had. Selling all your BTC to buy silver is the biggest fumble I have ever seen lol 

Aggravating-Buy-1695

You wanna buy the whole coin then keep buying ETH and BTC. You may not be able to buy a whole coin outright now, but DCA and eventually you’ll own it.

Aggravating-Buy-1695

BTC.

Vegetable-Rise1814

Russia had to sell all their BTC to pay the generals life insurance.

Vegetable-Rise1814

yes buy MARA options expiring today for $1. next week BTC goes to a whole other place.

trucker-123

So if the 60K to 70K holds for this next week, I think it's possible that we could crab between the 60K to 70K range for the next few months. What was needed was something to stop the slide of BTC's price. It's too early to say whether the support will hold throughout the week, but if it does hold for the next week, perhaps this could be the bottom for the next few months (that doesn't mean BTC price won't drop further into the 50K or even 40K range after a few months). Anyways, it's just my 2 cents, and not really financial advice, just my own interpretation of the market.

Blueberry_Dependent

"so you FOMO, YOLO all in your grandma's money when BTC was 126k a piece... Welcome young one" 

trucker-123

So if the 60K to 70K holds for this next week, I think it's possible that we could crab between the 60K to 70K range for the next few months. What was needed was something to stop the slide of BTC's price. It's too early to say whether the support will hold throughout the week, but if it does hold for the next week, I think we may have found a temporary bottom for the next few months (that doesn't mean BTC price won't drop further into the 50K or even 40K range after a few months). Anyways, it's just my 2 cents, and not really financial advice, just my own interpretation of the market.

PsychologicalBit803

Don’t recall asking for your advice random Reddit guy that hates BTC.

Mammon84

Yes BTC is dying. Time to find the next big thing guys

Makuren

The BTC rugpull.

Mariahausfrau

Those all will still dip like no tomorrow. I wouldnt touch any of those in this year..maybe not next either. Theyre all alts and alts are pure gamble anymore. Stop chasing dreams and playing with greed. Stay in BTC and enjoy the wealth later.

helluvatrader

Oh boy, I love the random noise of bearmarkets. Everything is broken, Holders about to capitulate und BTC will fall to zero. And you get all of this while absolutly nothing has changed

Archer_solace

2027? Try the next few months. BTC is good at one thing and that is defying any real logic or reason.

Rory_1354

The harsh truth is there is a massive possibility those alts never recover. I am like you and fucked up but luckily I moved a lot of it in to BTC and will now wait. I am never fucking with alts again unless it's ETH and even then I'm not sure it worth the risk

Blade_Runner_69

I had a spare £100 and bought BTC just before the crash yesterday... 😢 I'm sorry guys 😭

aaj094

DCA contributes a daily automatic buy of BTC that by itself surpasses the daily mined quantity of coin. Anywhere from 500 to 1500 btc a day (higher when fiat price is lower). This itself distinguishes btc from other coins where demand is lot more rarefied.

TheresNoSecondBest

My cat just attacked the chihuahua living next door. End of peacetime? BTC further crash inbound? /s

Aggressive-Purple615

Yes, BTC is dead. Please sell or give everything you have to me.

gnufoot

> What should worry folks is that the magnitude of the rallies in between bear markets are shrinking much faster than the magnitude of the bear market drawdowns. This pattern indicates that BTC has become a much worse investment from a risk/reward perspective. Not necessarily. Of course the rewards were much higher around 2015, but that is hindsight. It is clear that this year we're not gonna have a x600. But in 2013, 1 BTC was worth 20$, and BTC had a market cap similar to what shitcoins do now. At the time, without hindsight, investing money into it had serious risks. It was priced low because no one knew whether it would take off. Right now it's much more established. And even though technologically BTC is nothing special compared to other chains, it has shown to be dominant (mainly by being first). It's still a bunch of hot air like all crypto... but at least it's hot air with a lot of faith behind it.

TheresNoSecondBest

FYI, Satoshi doesn't own 1,096,358 BTC. Satoshi also isn't back.

captainorganic07

No shit lmao. “I know the cycles” - proceeds to *not* sell at ATH and then buy back in at the halving. Effective *doubling* his BTC holdings. Yeah righto champ 👍

aaj094

This is a golden opportunity for those with gold exposure to switch much of it to BTC.

danielsuperone

I’m speculating a short term recovery from BTC and then it’ll plunge lower. It’s just the cycle that the market requires every few years. It’ll need some time to recover, but I don’t think bitcoin is completely lost, so don’t worry. Check May 2022 BTC, kinda similar to that…

Aerocryptic

Did you get your 2000 BTC [AirDrop](https://x.com/solidintel_x/status/2019741474041073940?s=46&t=6o4mSZ7ojyiVNDLl-uWCKg)?

mamaburra

I think it just depends on who you are. You are clearly a professional, but most of us are not. And then there's the institutions and market makers in general. But laymen such as ourselves have BTC not only as an investment but as a philosophy. Maybe you like that there are no middlemen, maybe you like that it's decentralized, maybe you like that it's a 24/7 market in the palm of your hand or like another aspect of it. So for many of us it's more than to a professional such as yourself who understands how to move in other markets that are not of our interest because we are not traders.

Aboriginal_landlord

Yeah buddy that's a nice fantasy but if you think bitcoin is going to 1m in 4 years you're delusional. What average price do you expect to aquire the 9 additional BTC for? Whatd your current average buy price?

New-Aside-6805

With BTC tanking?

New-Aside-6805

Why Dec to Dec given its February and BTC has completely tanked since Dec? How on earth do you think ignoring a massive bear run is in any way less arbitrary than the standard 5 years to today chart, if youre looking for info pertaining to today

Archophob

>But you can't buy anything with it until you convert it to FIAT currency. simply not true. If you got BTC to spend, and want me to help you with your PC, you can call me, we can do a teamviewer session, and you can pay me 0.0004 BTC per hour. I'll provide you with the address for the transfer.

FnAardvark

I don't know how low we will eventually go, but we aren't going below 60k today. Look at the funding rates on coinglass they are all deeply negitive. What that means is we are WAY over crowded with shorts. No one is selling spot BTC right now, it's all short sellers, and they are getting trapped. I'm not saying we're going to the moon today, by any means, but there's going to be a short squeeze. The bears literally have to pay rent to keep their shorts open right now and they are doubling down. They are due for a bloody nose, and today they're going to get one.

Remote_Librarian4941

Bro BTC could go to zero could go to 1 million or do fucking piruettes on the graph and go back in time. It does not matter. risk/reward its the thing on everything just buy and hold. Sp500 can go to 0 too, fuck, i can go to 0, you can go to 0, everyone can go to 0 in every moment

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Mariahausfrau

I felt bad selling my ETH at 4k and almost 5k. Now afterwards i think it was my best decision in crypto so far. No more shit coins just grand ol BTC.

ryta1203

“'Our BTC price target is 0.0. That’s not just for shock factor. It’s where the math takes us,' the strategist said, noting that Bitcoin has failed to function as a dollar hedge and instead operates as 'a speculative instrument correlated to the Nasdaq.'”

ra246

BTC, ETH, SOL, Coinbase and Microstrategy

ratpH1nk

It still probably has a future but at this point there is so soo soo much institutional money that we are all subject to their whims which had a specific agenda and can appear to be very irrational. They are into making money and they do it by taking profit and buying low and have enough money to (by design or by nature of their size) manipulate the price. They have a thesis generally based on macros and when it meets they keep/buy and when it doens't match they sell and buy back on when the macros align. If you are a BTC investor we all need to dial back the ideology and embrace a bit more realism. There is still nothing wrong with buy and hold because i still think at the end of the day capital comes back to BTC and crypto.

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Agitated_Skin_60

Thanks, I'm not sure I trust those figures they seem out. Blackrock states 761,915.17090 BTC held on 5th Feb compared to 767,365.43990 on 30th Jan. Doesn't seem to match with 150k outflow. [https://www.ishares.com/us/products/333011/ishares-bitcoin-trust](https://www.ishares.com/us/products/333011/ishares-bitcoin-trust)

Suspicious-Skill1934

Technicaly speaking I dont think it can go to a flat zero, because BTC are lost and a lot will be lost. but if it die , it would reach a stagnant price.

HGDuck

This was indeed a super cycle, not a bullish super cycle but a winter super cycle, where alts never come out of winter and BTC did not get a euphoria phase at all. Turns out setting a price target was the wrong move and the cycle was on the dot with the date, hindsight is 20/20 so see you in November for the cycle bottom, bets are on for how low it goes. 20k to 30k or 30k to 40k?

Top-Sun-5935

Everything is possible thou , if some bad new about BTC comes it can crash even harder , but i think we are about to see the strangest market ever during the upcoming weeks , the banks , the elites and goverments will try there best to lequidate everyone so they can stock and own more BTC , everyone saying there will be now bounce is a fool , TRUMP ans the ELITES will buy even harder now . And we will see a 200k -350k BTC , at least in his mandate so he can say that i made a lot of us win and rich . The charts will look Even more messed up but we will for sure bounce , trading alt coins will be the most risky and hardest thing to do .

SsoundLeague

Well I’m definitely aiming for lows to be around October of this year, especially with midterms around that time. Also highly depends on geopolitical conditions by then as well, Trump meeting with Xi in April. Further Iran conflict, Russian Ukraine war, and especially how Kevin Warsh will behave as a new fed chair. I do not completely ignore that political policies can affect crypto. That can definitely skew the price. My absolute low is 35k, although I think my primary signal is a breakage of 50k. There was a considerable amount of support at 60k yesterday as we’ve seen by the bounce. What I’ve been doing is I derisk near all time highs by trimming a portion of my crypto. I leave the rest and then ride the elevator down. After a certain point I start to DCA my position slowly. My DCA target was under 60k. I am a BTC believer, I’m just not a HODLER. We still rely on fiat to buy most of our goods, and taking profits definitely never made anyone broke.

swadeyeight

If I could math I wouldn’t BTC.

Cautious-Lecture-858

Except we gain less with every cycle but lose the same 70%. The cycle will break at some point, and will probably take BTC to a more reasonable level for a thing that doesn’t matter whether it costs $1 or $1M to function.

NurUrl

It has fallen so much that BTC has rebounded at some point... but it is still a good price to invest some money, not to go all in, but to invest a small amount.

GodMeEvil

I agree, I was almost about to sell my soul for BTC.

VIXtrade

Could BTC go to zero? > I'm currently buying Why? What makes you think it will gain value. It already lost half it's value

Odd-Rip-2782

No mention of Quantum Computing and its potential to hijack the legacy PoW mechanism of BTC?

OmenxTx

I use BYDFi. The execution on major pairs like BTC is dependable. Also the grid bots can automate your trade within set range.

Ferdo306

Bought couple of alts yesterday that I feel are underpriced From today's perspective it seems like I bought the exact the bottom but I'm sure future will show I was catching falling knives Still, my BTC and ETH positions are quite strong, so I'm taking the risk with alts. If they fall further I will probably buy again to lower my entry

Necessary-Nature-380

The reality is charts are not indicative of future trends these days imo. It's all about the liquidation maps, tweet timings and "sentiment". All we can do is guess when Binance and Trump will dump then pick up the pieces shortly afterwards.. it wouldn't surprise me BTC crashes to 40k just due to the unnatural nature of market movements and wicks.

fx_alvaro

I am going to buy BTC, a percentage of my portfolio. It's just that there's no real rationale behind it. I hope it goes well for you, friend.

GIGAbtcHodl

we are 100% BTC in our treasury and it's exciting that now we can buy it at way better price... We don't think BTC is going anywhere, money must come back. we just got to embrace the volatility

Kierik

My point is that politics have dominated the financial markets for the past 10 years and we have to recognize that BTC behaves like the indexes since it’s recognition and incorporation as a commodity. My belief is that BTC gained acceptance as a commodity because it allowed elites the ability to store wealth into an asset that can transverse borders with no regulatory interference and can be liquidated easily anywhere. This makes it a great place to stash your wealth if you fear social upheaval and may need to flee to a place to hide from your government/people. Ideally if this is your goal and you foresee this event happening you are going to prep your new location prior to arrival and so you would liquidate some of your holdings to purchase assets in your exiled home and local usable currencies.

Kierik

My point is that politics have dominated the financial markets for the past 10 years and we have to recognize that BTC behaves like the indexes since it’s recognition and incorporation as a commodity. My belief is that BTC gained acceptance as a commodity because it allowed elites the ability to store wealth into an asset that can transverse borders with no regulatory interference and can be liquidated easily anywhere. This makes it a great place to stash your wealth if you fear social upheaval and may need to flee to a place to hide from your government/people. Ideally if this is your goal and you foresee this event happening you are going to prep your new location prior to arrival and so you would liquidate some of your holdings to purchase assets in your exiled home and local usable currencies.

AntiqueDiscipline831

It may. Anyone who has been around awhile has seen massive drops before. And anyone who has been around awhile knew it would likely start dropping when it did. I sold 1 of my BTC in October because I saw the cliff. BTC has had a fairly predictable cycle for over a decade. Sure it might change but at this point it hasn’t.

Blueberry_Dependent

It is exciting. We might go lower today or tomorrow and then you can buy more BTC cheaper, if it doesn't happen well also good price going up. Both of those scenarios are good the only NOT good is when you sell. 

AntiqueDiscipline831

I did. I bought 3 BTC in 2013 for like $400 lol

lamoketdusalon

I have a dynamic DCA, I invest €5 (currently €6.50) and I mine and store a lot of BTC, best time to make money now 😛

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noname9813

BTC is following regular 4 year cycle. What’s not to know? What’s not obvious? It’s exactly the same pattern for the last 12 years. So please just buy when you consider fit, and sell accordingly. Make as much BTC as possible, as a result of market conditions. So yes, we do know “something”

New_Answer7917

Next post from him in 6 months: Is now a good time to buy BTC at $200k?

coinsntings

The ability to transact without permissions from centralised control (IE banks). Realistically cash gives you the exact same ability. But cash is part of a centralised system so it's value fluctuates in accordance to that. BTC on the other hand fluctuates in accordance to demand, usage and potential. If people don't use it, want it or hold it then naturally it'll decrease in value and the opposite is also true. But effectively it's a system that functions the same as conventional transactions without the same constraints. Valuation is a different conversation altogether. That said, it is used as a speculative asset so a lot of people do hold purely for 'number go up' reasons, and that's valid too.

Realistic_Fee_00001

Yes I am talking about BTC. Yes, nodes relay transactions and blocks, but in a decentralized network that bears no power at all. Because the tx or blocks will always reach everyone no matter what a few node relay or not. That's why you built decentralized networks.

Interesting_Loss_907

But that was only a few months ago OP. People on here have talked about the 4 year cycles & the bull market peaks in the year after each halving (that was 2025). People have pointed out no one accumulating & holding BTC for at least 4 years is down. You haven’t yet had *time in the market*. You only started a few months ago. Why did you buy Bitcoin? What attributes of Bitcoin did you feel gave it value? Think about those attributes. Did they change in the last 3 months? I remember people in 2015 complaining they had paid $800 /BTC… Do you think they *still* regretted buying the expensive $800 BTC after holding 4+ years…?

Jabulon

your not talking about BTC or, you mean validators on other chains? im pretty sure it helps relay the full ledger

liquid_at

If you are not, what do you do in crypto? Buying BTC as crypto because alts are scary is like buying ETFs because stocks are scary... If you want a chance for gains you have to risk losses. Most assets have symmetrical risk and opportunity. Those that don't usually have more risk than opportunity. Less risk isn't better, only safer.

EscortRSBoom

Because you listed to other people, instead of doing research. The 4 years cycle clearly showed BTC would dip this year. I’m expecting high 50’s then to recover mid 2028.

FuckM0reFromR

They're gonna flush out MSTR and cascade to other institutional holders. It's gonna rain BTC this year and the insiders are going to rake them in while the little guy is too fearful, uncertain and doubtful to take advantage until its back over 100k again.

Zen-Investor

“Time in the market is better than timing the market” — this applies to the stock market, not BTC.