BTC

Necrogomicon

>If BTC behaves like it has in the past (big if!)  It always does no matter what, why do we still have this doubt to this day?

Nearby_Acanthisitta9

5-10 years is a long time horison for a very volatile market. BTC is likely the only one fitting that criteria. Maybe a bit of Eth, Sol. Likely those won't go to zero. Maybe some Doge if you feeling lucky

AcanthisittaFuture38

Bro, track Bitcoin in USD. The whole market runs on the dollar, so all the charts, news, and all-time highs are always based on it. If you look at it in euros, the BTC price shifts a lot just because of the EUR/USD exchange rate, not because of Bitcoin itself. Sometimes the euro drops and it looks like BTC moved, but it was actually just your local currency fluctuating. The dollar is way less volatile, so it doesn't mess up the chart.

Original-Season-9941

No. Fiat means government backed. BTC isn't backed

TallFunDom

It's a math question. I'll change things to USD because... well, because I like it. 36000 CAD ~ 26000 USD Using the 4% rule, you need roughly 650000 dollars to be able to retire. If you have 3 BTC and that won't change, you need the value of BTC to be roughly USD 220k (at its bearish!). From that moment on, you can retire. If BTC behaves like it has in the past (big if!) then we're talking roughly 8 years to get there. (Either that or sell the BTC for dollars when it reaches 220k in less than 4 - you do you!) So the question to you is: do you think Bitcoin will reach 220k or not?

polentino911

Ah yes, I can't wait to sell my BTC in 113 years. Seriously, and I'm telling this as a BTC holder myself: can we stop pushing irrealistic BS? You could have made your point more reasonable just by saying "since 1976, the USD lost about 88% of it's purchasing power" and it would have made a better argument.

mrjune2040

Your expenses seem ridiculously low, maybe you’re living some cheap 26-year old lifestyle now but that will greatly increase over time. And 200k in 2026 just ain’t what it used to be. That’s 3 median yearly wages in Canada. Of course you can extrapolate a higher BTC price but grow isn’t an exponential curve anymore as when it was a nascent asset class; it will (and has) trend up much more slowly. Your best bet is to use this as a nice inflation hedge to make your life a little more comfortable in your 50’s+ imo, but by far the biggest factor for your future wealth isn’t your BTC, it’s your profession and annual wages- that’s you’re real answer on retirement.

Current_Sock1483

Transaction fees go up while rewards go down. At some point it will only be transaction fees, which only works out if BTC value is sufficient and number of transactions is interesting. In theory, should hashrate drop significantly, the difficulty to calculate new blocks should go down, accordingly. However, I see this doesn't come without further headaches, but I guess these are issues for others to solve since we will likely not experience this moment.

No_Theory_1557

>Thanks, really useful feedback. > >On competition, globally there’s Ledn, Firefish and others, but they lend in USD or stablecoins. In India we haven’t seen anyone else offering INR loans against Bitcoin through an RBI-registered NBFC with multisig custody. > >On pricing, you’re right that it’s above LAS. The reason is that there’s no RBI framework yet for Bitcoin as collateral, so the rates are much like personal loans and prices them that way. This pilot is meant to prove demand. Once we have that, we expect to bring rates down and add more lending partners. > >We’re also looking for early adopters to help shape the product. If you or anyone you know holds BTC and needs INR, we’d love to have you on board at pledg.in.

Jonny_Sidepin

Why does the title say holding 2 BTC, but your example says starting holdings 3 BTC? Google "Sminston With" and check out his model for retirement, theres a free basic version on the site, he uses a 7% inflation adjusted and a conservative 5th percentile powerlaw fit to forecast how much BTC you would need to retire in certain years, from certain ages and for how much yearly spend.

MiserablePhilosophy

God, Americans are so self centered. "Trump does this, bitcoin will tank!" "trump does that, bitcoin will moon!" There are 195 countries in the world, if the US president fills his diaper, it wont affect BTC price

bobbyv137

More detailed information [here](https://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/dashboard/). 2032 is where it's at: the block subsidy drops below 1 for the first time, to 0.78125. Assuming cycles repeat, 2033 is my earliest, realistic target for when BTC eclipses $1,000,000 USD for the first time.

Mysterious_Good927

Well yeah, but doesn't mean you can't get it off an exchange and then remain private there after. It depends on what level of privacy you want. If you want complete and utter privacy that nobody even knows you used/bought it to begin with, then don't buy from an exchange. I've no idea what the stats say on whether it's used more or less, my overarching point was alt coins sound great for a limited time, then there's always something new around the corner. As for the name, I don't think that matters at all. If it does want you hope it to do, what it's named is irrelevant. I still stand by, Bitcoin and nothing else. I wouldn't waste my time or money with anything else. If you want privacy, there's also things you can do with BTC to make it more private + you get the added benefit of the king.

Odd-Stuff1885

I agree returns are getting smaller, but I don't really see that as a bad thing, bitcoin is a much bigger asset now, so obviously we can't expect the same crazy gains forever…. even the bear markets seem to be getting less severe couldn't it just be maturing into something that grows more slowly but is also more stable over time ? that's kinda why i'm wondering if 3 BTC could still be enough long term, especially if i'm only spending around $3k CAD a month.. It wouldn't need to do anything crazy, just grow enough over time to make it sustainable or u think i should reach for 4? 5? 10?

Realistic-Citron7926

I had a dream that showed me to invest in BTC

bobbyv137

It's a binary outcome for Bitcoin. Always has been. In 5-10-20 years from now 1 x BTC will either be worth effectively zero, or multiples of what it is today. Nobody on this planet can conclusively say which way it'll go. Bitcoin has a habit of humbling everyone, including many respected people 'in this space' that were adamant it's going to $1m per coin by 2030. Not happening. Remember Saylor's "base case" claiming it was going to $13m per coin by 2045? lmao. Not happening. You can be all but certain the US will not pay of its debt, that all fiat currencies will continue to be debased, thus desirable assets will increase in value. That's even with Musk's bold claim it's pointless to save money for the future. If you want a clear indication of what's possible, look to the 2029 bull market high, assuming cycles repeat. Bitcoin didn't even do a 2x from 2021's ATH to 2025's. If it again fails to do the same come 2029, just 3 years from now, then it is absolutely demonstrating diminishing returns as the market cap grows.

RosieYoureFired

Crypto was scammy way before Trump ever became involved in it. I'm not bullish on the future of 99.9% if crypto. Even BTC doesn't have much reason to pump much in the future. Monero is the only true crypto and the only coin I'm actually bullish on in the next 5 - 10 years +

EbbMother5325

It depends per exchange but some exchanges have up to 8% even 10% spread difference between sell and ask. Many will claim they have no fees but the spread contains the fee. In any case, you should use a stablecoin like USDC or USDT, not a volatile coin like BTC. Your goal is to transfer money, not transfer and speculate. You don’t want Trump to whisper Iran between buying and selling.

Odd-Stuff1885

Yeah, that's fair. At what point do you think 2 BTC goes from being a solid nest egg to actually being enough to live off indefinitely?

EbbMother5325

Why different coins? Just use a stable coin. Why would anyone use BTC or any other non-stable coin for this?

Odd-Stuff1885

I agree there's significant risk, especially with Bitcoin's volatility. But I'm curious how you'd look at it over a 15–20+ year horizon. If someone only needed $3,000 CAD/month in today's purchasing power, and Bitcoin continued appreciating faster than inflation, wouldn't they theoretically need to sell fewer sats over time? At what BTC holding would you personally consider that strategy reasonably sustainable rather than extremely risky?

Over_Trip3048

For crypto IDK but for BTC it’s irrelevant as long as you DVA, hodl and don’t sell it within the next 5 to 10 years+.

Gareth_loves_dogs

Who knows. Personally I believe by 2036 1 BTC will be enough to step back and consider more fulfilling work, potentially keep earning cash in hand. If you can live a not too extravagant lifestyle. We live in hope.

Odd-Stuff1885

Forget whether someone personally has it or not. I'm more interested in the math and long-term perspective. Hypothetically, how many BTC do you think someone would need today to eventually fund $3,000 CAD/month in 2026 purchasing power for life, assuming Bitcoin continues appreciating? Would 2 BTC be enough eventually, or would you aim for more?

Odd-Stuff1885

That's definitely a possibility. But assuming Bitcoin continues growing and adoption increases over the next 10–20 years, what would your personal estimate be? How many BTC would you want to hold today to eventually retire on just $3,000 CAD/month in 2026 purchasing power, adjusted for inflation? Do you think 2 BTC could realistically reach that point within our lifetime, and if so, around what year?

WatermelonGobble

Yeah, BTC for long term investing.

Odd-Stuff1885

That's exactly the concept I'm thinking about. As Bitcoin appreciates, the number of sats needed to cover the same inflation-adjusted monthly expenses should decrease, assuming appreciation outpaces inflation. My question is, what's the minimum BTC stack you'd personally feel comfortable retiring with today if your entire lifestyle only required $3,000 CAD/month in 2026 purchasing power? Would 2 BTC be enough in your opinion, or would you want more? And around what year would you expect it to become sustainable?

Odd-Stuff1885

My lifestyle is already figured out. I know exactly how I want to spend my days, and I don't need luxury or lifestyle inflation. $3,000 CAD/month in 2026 purchasing power is genuinely enough for me. My thinking is that if Bitcoin continues appreciating over decades, I'd need to sell progressively fewer sats to cover those same inflation-adjusted expenses, potentially preserving most of my stack indefinitely. With that in mind, how much BTC would you personally consider enough to be financially set for life, accounting for inflation, taxes, and bear markets?

FnAardvark

Having 2 BTC isn't that shocking

polymath_uk_

How are you going to receive the funds in the first place? You just need to be able to swap local currency for BTC in both jurisdictions.

OneMiners_Randell

Bitcoin goes up, people call it a bubble. Bitcoin goes down, people call it dead. At this point I think the only thing more consistent than BTC volatility is people overreacting to it lol.

2xfun

Here’s what will happen: 1) when the price peeks he will buy a chunk of it. 2) panic sell when it tanks 40% 3) blame you and call BTC a scam 

Mack_Mimsy

I used to think it was ₿itcoin ONLY but there is value in true privacy. Monero or similar will become extremely valuable in the next decade. Stack that along with BTC.

0a0d0s0

Makes sense. If the flat stretch sits near the bottom, each dollar still costs a lot of coins, so cuts there save BTC. Once the climb has started, the same cut saves less. Your 0.02 to 0.035 fits that. On the random draw: real history only has a handful of cycles, so you might try resampling it in chunks, say 6 or 12 months of real returns at a time. That keeps the flat stretches and crashes close to their real length, which shuffling single months breaks up. Curious whether the 0.035 holds once the flat stretches are not hand picked.

tnat0r

Just look what we need, nothing. Just BTC.

BigDik6355

I love the touch with the 0.00 BTC. Even AI knows its a bad idea.

Honest-Mess-812

BTC

Porcellanidae

For me it helps to know that i am working on two things: 1) measure your portfolio in BTC except shitty fiat 2) stack harder when price is below your average buying price

Hot-Efficiency7190

BTC for the safe steady bluechip with fairly predictable cycle. LINK for genuine utility. HYPE is the future, Hyperliquid is building platform for trading RWA and actually in use right now. ONDO for RWA trade. ZEC wildcard to rerun Bitcoin with added security element.

libretumente

LTC - same tokenomics as BTC essentially with 4x the amount of coins. Unlike BTC, after all have been mined, doge (which is infinitely inflationary) will continue to pay miners to validate transactions since LTC and doge are merge mined. It has also had 100% uptime as a network which is greater than BTC's uptime. It might not have the same branding but the underlying asset is essentially the same with lightning network, halvings, but also with some added flair (MWEB optional privacy layer)

NonVideBunt

How long before everyone realizes BTC is the OG scam?

ec265

ETH More os than BTC

xiskghferx

You won't believe - in EU we buy BTC in €. My salary is in €, my expenses are in €, why would I trade in any other currency?

No_Resolution8762

BTC in case it isn't clear yet

chubs66

Link, BTC, Hyp

termin8rs

This is why people find BTC dudes obnoxious

jacd03

BTC, SOL, HYPE, TAO and PUMP. In that order. The last one is on my watch list, if they manage to diversify from just memecoins into what they have recently added i will start buying.

Supremo_bean

BTC. I used to diversify, but I'm all in now.

godofpumpkins

People keep saying this but it really doesn’t if you’re remotely aware of the world economy. USD getting devalued would show against all other currencies in the world. It doesn’t, so it just means BTC went up

eliteeg0

BTC is the answer. If you want to dabble in alts go for ETH and a little SOL. That’s it. All other bs is here today and gone tomorrow

Square-Ad-2034

The SEC vs CFTC split is the part that actually matters here. Whoever gets spot oversight decides how exchanges and tokens get treated for years, and that's what builders care about. Everything else is mostly positioning for next Congress. Market clearly isn't pricing it in yet either, BTC is up about 4% today on the same news cycle.

tourbladez

BTC, ETH, and maybe HYPE

rogedog2026

Aside from using bitrefill for gift cards; my first real BTC purchase was actually today at Steak and Steak. Cheeseburger and chilli cheese tator tots.

LovelyDayHere

BTC'ers are not anymore a crowd that is persuaded by facts.

Alexander-305

Realistically, BTC and ETH are the only two with a long enough track record to plan around for 5–10 years. Beyond that it's a bet on which networks still have users and developers in a decade, and most of the 2017 and 2021 top 20 lists didn't make it. What's worked better for me than picking winners is sizing: most of it in the boring two, a small slice in a few things you've actually used and understand, and rebalancing once or twice a year instead of chasing whatever is pumping that week.

FrancescasGrove

The finite supply model of BTC technically means it should gain value long term. However, it’s never as easy as that

_blockchainlife

BTC and ETH. Rest are garbage

Nerevaine

BTC, SOL and ETH, check SOL ETFs and txs per day

PeaceAgitated1978

I did indeed took a loan for the same reason. Didn't had to ask anyone about it, thought.. but yeah my answer is simple.. I do what I say. Mine got placed in a TSFA totally.. because why even take the chance to have to pay taxes when there is a legal way to not pay any 🤔🤣 ETF for now, next in 3 years or around, I'll switch to real BTC. Oh and by the way, my degenerate side touch. Got 1/3 in MSTR amplified volatility.. and plan to get out earlier.. switch to BTC to finish this cycle.. MSTR also in TSFA of course.. was having load of place in it ..

PuzzleheadedBell4057

BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, DOGE, LINK, ZEC, TAO, HYPE, NEAR. Cause I don't have a crystal ball.

CXavier4545

depends how risk averse you are as far as crypto goes, BTC will be your most conservative choice then the other top 10s and so on, obviously the more risk the more potential gains, pick your poison

plumpyplummy

Nov 11 2024 BTC rose 80,000 to 88,000 in a single day. Remember this folks

ssantos88

BTC.

AverageDeadMeme

BTC 0.0004

Upset-Cat7857

I keep it boring with BTC and ETH and treat everything else like a lottery ticket I can afford to lose. Most altcoins won't make it, but ones with real customers, like LINK with its oracle data, have a better shot than the rest.

Doritos707

My current list: BTC, XMR, ZEC, LINK, SOL, STX, RAIL, PYTH

Alaska_Engineer

Just my opinion. Any crypto connected to anything real world (titles, bonds, shares, commodities, etc.) is pointless. The system is inherently centralized by the enforcement arm / issuer / peg maintainer, so a decentralized system is wasted effort. Pure currency is perhaps the only valid application. I can’t escape the math that BTC can never fulfill this role in the long term globally (security budget, TPS limit). I still hold majority BTC for the hype, but am building positions in XMR, XNO.

WeAreManyWeAre1

BTC is pretty much a guaranteed money maker and ETH has the biggest promise of use case. I don’t know what that means for the price of ETH but it’s a gamble that will most likely pay off.

StevenComedy

BTC

jdickstein

If your argument is based on exaggeration and made up facts then I think probably you just haven’t thought through this very strong opinion you’re presenting as so obviously true. They’re the first exchange to suffer a loss without socializing the losses except for: **2015, Bitstamp ($5M):** Absorbed the hack using company reserves. Customer balances honored in full and withdrawals resumed. **2018, Coincheck ($530M):** Completed approximately $420M in yen reimbursements to affected customers following the NEM theft, at a fixed conversion rate. **2019, Binance ($40M):** Covered 7,000 stolen BTC through its SAFU fund. No customer haircut. **2020, KuCoin ($285M):** Recovered approximately $239M in stolen assets and covered the remaining $45.55M through company and insurance funds. Confirmed zero customer losses. **2021, AscendEX ($78M):** Confirmed that affected customers had been reimbursed 100% following its hot-wallet hack. **2022, Crypto.com ($34M):** Confirmed that all 483 affected customer accounts were fully reimbursed. **2022, Deribit ($28M):** Absorbed the entire hack through corporate reserves. Customer balances and the insurance fund were unaffected. **2024, DMM Bitcoin ($305M):** Secured financing to replace stolen BTC. Customer assets were subsequently transferred to SBI VC Trade, with the transfer completed in March 2025. **2025, Bybit ($1.46B):** Replenished stolen reserves through loans, asset purchases and counterparties. An independent proof-of-reserves audit verified that customer assets were fully backed within 72 hours.

dominiquehamptn

I’ve been looking at this new site called Cred. This is the BTC leaderboard, which tracks BTC influencers and shows their returns on the coin based on their public calls. There are leaderboards for other cryptocurrencies and stocks too, and you can follow or copy trade the people you find. It’s still in beta, so some of the functionality is being improved, but it could be useful if you want to check someone’s actual track record before following their advice. [https://credscore.app/#/people/credible/crypto/CRYPTO%3ABTCUSD](https://credscore.app/#/people/credible/crypto/CRYPTO%3ABTCUSD)

No-Wrap3568

I can recommend a Cyphe rock X1 BTC-only, as I'm using myself. Has it's own screen, splits your seed into multiple parts to ensure you never lose your funds and an in-built inheritance planning option. Seems a little old fashioned but it actually protects your money.

T00ManyH0bb13s

1. A blue wave mid-term doesn't change who is in charge at the SEC. Success or failure of the CLARITY act, zero alts are getting oversight till at minimum 2028. 2. I know to crypto bros y'all feel like you're the most important thing in the room, but the reality is that regulating crypto is probably the lowest possible thing on the totem pole right now. Rolling back / questioning / investigating the tariff situation, the Iran war, Ukraine war and support for Israel, and on and on. No one gives a shit about coming after crypto rn. 3. The sovereign vault is probably the only thing you're right on. 4. If you think with BTC not being quantum proof and the rise of AI, the only thing instiutional investors are going to funnel to is crypto you're out of your mind. Gold will probably go to 5k.

ComasArentFun

Oh you're new here.. that's fine mate. We all went through the phase of thinking someone else had the answers They don't. These bullshit charts get redrawn all the fucking time when they are proved wrong Take it as you find it. I don't fucking care.. you losing your money makes my BTC worth more.. I'd rather you were asking about how to secure it than shuffling around tea leaves searching for a profit edge that doesn't exist though

inadyttap

i like it better when BTC is above $80k 

matthegc

Printer is going to go brrrrrr with Dems and their social programs in office. Inflation going to go nuts, BTC conversion rate to USD is going to go up with it.

KomputerT

Potentially positive for Bitcoin, but mixed for crypto overall. BTC has already rebounded since the election, and less political uncertainty could help support markets. However, a Democratic Congress could also tighten regulation and slow progress on crypto-friendly legislation. I wouldn’t count on a post-midterm rally. Bitcoin is highly volatile and nonstationary, shaped by multiple interacting factors whose relationships shift over time. Historical post-election patterns alone aren’t enough to establish a reliable basis for prediction. The more interesting question is whether the election brings about a lasting shift in market dynamics, particularly volatility, liquidity, and risk sentiment, rather than just a short-lived price reaction.

Get_the_nak

T Rump: pretend my name is on the ballot! Dem: Yes do that. Can’t say it better. T Rump <loses congress> My name wasn’t on the ballots BTC up ⬆️ 🆙 ✈️ 🚀 p

PrintDoErro

What kind of stability and reliability are you talking about? The stability and reliability of Mt. Gox, FTX, Binance? Perhaps BlackRock's "paper Bitcoin" through its IBIT ETF and its operations with Coinbase? One of the major problems with the fiat system is precisely the ability granted by governments to the financial system to create money. Banks can issue financial instruments and extend loans far beyond the amount of deposits they receive, effectively creating money without corresponding backing. This isn't the only cause of inflation, but it is certainly one of them. Bitcoin was created, among other things, to overcome this problem. But if you believe that handing BTC over to the same outdated and failed financial system, allowing it to reproduce those very same practices with Bitcoin, makes any sense, that's your choice.

AceKent

I would wait for the official quarterly reports of bitcoin profits by BTC CEO.

BlackDog990

There was a discussion. Dems had specific issues with the bill, namely due to some wording that had implications with Trump's personal crypto and consumer protections. GOP wouldn't amend the bill or hold constructive discussions. So yeah, it didn't get much support from Dems. You're confusing partisan legislative bickering for "broader support" of crypto. If this goes over your head so be it, but all I'm saying is BTC doesn't care about politics.

ieatmoondust

Down vote all you want, but it won't make BTC any cheaper for you. :P

BlackDog990

Did you read those bills.....? Lots of people in the BTC community didnt want them to pass. You're falling for partisan spin. I'll repeat: Between better.

ieatmoondust

Bottom happened bro. Yes, you missed it just like everyone who didn't buy BTC at $15k because they were stupidly waiting for $12k.

BlackDog990

>Democrats are opposed to crypto like crazy. I dont think this is a broadly accurate statement. A handful of Dem lawmakers in the US, sure. But broadly? Nah. BTC is bipartisan, and there are not large swaths of voters demanding crypto/BTC negative legislation. BTC is above politics. Be better.

anotherbrckinTH3Wall

I’m not watching at all. I’ve got a life to live. My buys DCA regularly for me without having to think about the price of BTC today, yesterday or tomorrow

Forded_Fiction24

What loss? I'm 5 years out from that point and am sitting better than I ever have been. Clearing my debts gave me more cash flow to do what I did with it over those past 5 years. Now I have way more BTC than I did then. I had sold pretty near a local top and then bought it back significantly cheaper. I wouldn't have been able to buy it back if I wouldn't have had the cash flow to buy it back, owing debts on credit cards and cars and such

Spirited_Rip_929

My girlfriend bought the 3 bitcoin in 2013. And then I went on [LocalBitcoin.com](http://LocalBitcoin.com) and started trading the bitcoin and built it up to 5 bitcoin. I sold bitcoin during the evening she sold bitcoin during the morning. I left her set up so she could get up and start selling. Then when I got up we would acquire more BTC to sell with the money she earned. We tried to do 2 cycles of 5 BTC daily. We were making about 4,000 dollars a week. Then she was phished signing into LBC one morning. Then when I slowly traded myself BACK to 2 bitcoin the state I live in BANNED trading unless you paid 500K for a license. Reddit is such a sewer, filled with pseudo-intellectuals who all think they are "the smartest guy in the room'. Even if they are female. WE (her and I) were building a business together and we were succeeding until a fucking government NOT a thief stopped us. Now we have moved into cannabis, because I worked in the medical industry in Washington for 2 years. I guess I should have said WE instead of ME but I did NOT think a minor post would garner such wild speculation.

Saintgein

Makes perfect sense. We almost finished the IPO period in bitcoin with most og sellers taking profit at about 100k. With all this BTC changed hands, we're getting ready for the next move up.

omni_wisdumb

Exactly. I'm actually an OG investor, and know quite a few of them..we never go around telling people how much we bought/own or at what price or frankly give a shit about low time frame price action. Excited about a 4% raise is like a "I just bought $100 of BTC for the first time and I'm excited" 😂. Also most OGs that aren't trying to be bs influencers/content creators don't go around talking about TA or trying to guess where the market is going..

tribepride25

Something doesn’t sound right. His profile claims he’s been a BTC investor since 2012 but he sounds like a rookie with this post. No OG investor is bragging about an average price of $77k

No_Theory_1557

Fair, debt isn’t for everyone. But for many people the alternative isn’t “no debt,” it’s selling their sats when they need cash. This is for people who’d rather keep their BTC.

Different_Ice_6975

There’s always news affecting the ups and downs of crypto. The price of BTC has gone up or down by 4% or more about 40 times in the past year. That’s about once in every 10 days.

Capital-Ad8143

We're still heavily discounted at about 0.1% of actual real value if BTC, we're not even starting.

DRAGULA85

Does BTC compound interest? Thats news to me

Fritzbox5000

Isn't that the core message of Bitcoin in the first place? Being self-custodial with no third parties involved? When I buyed Bitcoin from an exchange, I always stored it into my cold wallet immediately. I've neve left my BTC on the exchange for more than one day. Now, I set up an Umbrel node with Bitcoin Core and Lightning with the intention to buy them P2P with more independence and security. Long story short: Not your seed, not your coin.

omni_wisdumb

Too bought a "lot of BTC" down at $75k? Dang how many BTC? 30-100+ ?

tomalamak

Impossible.  There are only two ways to store value: USD and BTC. No other asset classes exist. 

Different_Ice_6975

Nah. Look at a 1 year graph of the price of BTC. This is just another blip about the same size of many other blips and dips that have occurred throughout the past year. You’re just trying to read too much into this magnified picture of a tiny 1.5 hour interval.

Patrick_Atsushi

My possibility unpopular view: 1. Trump coin is not corruption, it’s a non-illegal unethical trap that most politicians will avoid. 2. The GOP loss in congress has limited relations with this “corruption” but mostly about war and living costs. 3. The most important issues for crypto is still thieving and custody. Another issue for BTC is the quantum attack, but totally solvable if old wallets are dropped. However we might have seen the bottom for this round and I won’t be surprised if it goes higher again.