BTC

TheIndignantTroll

Shit, so that means BTC is like 20% more worthless than 5 years ago.

LearnBitcoinCom

Added, and thank you for pointing it out. It is on the timeline under 29 October, with a new section on the custody page: [https://www.learnbitcoin.com/history#2026-10-29-binance-loses-more-than-6-billion-to](https://www.learnbitcoin.com/history#2026-10-29-binance-loses-more-than-6-billion-to) You were right that it is mostly not bitcoin. The bitcoin part is 18,270 BTC out of more than $6 billion. The FBI's alert lists 19 Bitcoin addresses, and as of 10 November all of it was still sitting in them.

GeeEyeDoe

I love the sales the BTC CEO is doing this year

xcrunner2414

My theory—your dad is chilling because his story is a fiction. Every dad wants to be respected by his kids. He heard you going on and on about this new kind of money, and decided to fuck with your head by telling you that he might have 500 BTC.

Icenfiree

Bahaha poor kids going to need even more therapy than he does now by thinking you lost 500BTC

bigsears10

Yeah, OP, i think my remote has like 1000 BTC on it, could you come over? I’ll give half of whatever we find on it

Normalcommunist

just saw a post earlier about someone saying their father had 500 BTC. no fucking way

leopac1

I may be tripping but i just read another post possibly from said kid, saying his dad told him he had 300-500 BTC on an old laptop and is scouring through his home looking for it.

eckstuhc

Exactly. People don’t understand quantum/brute forcing/treasure hunting has been going on since BTC inception and always will. The keys will always be there, just may be in limbo until compute catches up.

sunsetreunion

The stability I am referring to is wealth-preserving stability. The numerical price of BTC priced in USD is not stable, and to the same measure, USD priced in BTC is not stable. Thus bitcoin and the dollar are equally unstable in terms of one another (from a numerical perspective), but bitcoin is far more stable than the dollar (from a wealth-preservation perspective). One can speculate as to whether bitcoin will continue to be a good tool for wealth preservation, but many people around the world have identified it as having properties optimized for this purpose: it is a scarce asset with a capped supply that can travel digitally as information. Stocks can of course grow wealth as well, but the mechanism is very different: intelligently selecting a company whose employees will produce a profit to the investor. Not everyone is good at picking productive companies, or remaining vigilance to the downside risks that come with shifts in the company's productive capacity and/or shifts in consumer demand. So for those who aren't good at investing, bitcoin serves as a wealth-preservation technology, protecting them from the significant disadvantage that comes with endless fiat currency expansion.

devCheckingIn

They might have less capital to buy BTC and ETH, and right now a lot of the buying pressure is coming from DATs like MSTR, Strive, BMNR, etc.

Gohanrr

Because I was advised the hot wallet so as not to be exposed to the platform but apparently we must be an expert to own BTC, if I knew the exact reason for the hacking I would not have done this post....

webshammo

I played with it early on. Bought 19 BTC for $40. I sold it days later for a tidy 20% profit ($50)

KSW8674

Lol not at all. Let’s bet 1 BTC. If this turns into a bull market in the next 2 weeks I’ll buy you 1 BTC. If the market is still down after 2 weeks you owe me one Willing to put your money where your overly confident mouth is?

Scared-Permit2587

Sorry for your loss. More argument for keeping BTC exposure in the one of the ETFs. Much safer

MuscularFrog13

If you had that much BTC you’d be moving to a place with territorial tax to avoid such taxes.

Alexander-305

I'd say the flows, at least for ETH. CPI hit everything, but on a 24h basis BTC is down about 2.3% while ETH is down about 4.2%, so there's an ETH-specific seller on top of the macro move, and roughly $550M of ETF outflows in about a week and a half is the obvious one. BitMine is real demand, but ~$20M a week against ~$185M out in a single day isn't close. And since most of its stack is staked, it shrinks liquid float more than it props up price day to day. The 24h low was about $2,003, so $2k has already been tested once. If outflows slow and that level holds, sellers start to look tired. If it breaks while the ETFs are still bleeding, I wouldn't lean on the round number much.

jasonslpt

Short side still looks like the cleaner path for BTC into the evening. Our Hunter Killer liquidation heatmap shows about $72M in 100x longs near 73,577 just under price, and the big magnet is roughly $717M in longs near 72,349, which is where we would expect a sweep to aim. About $164M in shorts sits right overhead near 73,780, so a quick poke up through that first would not change the lean. A reclaim and hold above 75,439, where roughly $302M in shorts is stacked, proves this view wrong. Not advice.

BeautifulSeason8387

yes, most people don't understand that and see etf like a good thing for btc. Institutions employ mechanisms of rehypothecation, which diminishes the potential of BTC; this potential ends up going directly into the pockets of the institutions.

KateR_H0l1day

BTC hit a new ATH in March, 2024, before the actual halving occurred.

Drevinth

1. Learn about Bitcoin on your own and buy it based on your own conviction, not just because some 2. Don't listen to anybody who tells you that the market will go up or down 3. Don't panic sell at a lower price than you originally bought it for 4. Never spend more money on Bitcoin than you can afford to lose 5. Get yourself an air gapped hardware wallet that doesn't have access to the internet. Electrum on a USB drive is a good option if you set it up correctly 6. Don't keep too much BTC on an exchange at once. It's not safe. You should regularly transfer your BTC to your cold wallet.

stay_safe_and_calm

I just bought at 72 k and yesterday at 74 k. I am really happy to own more BTC now.

Gonzothis

If BTC is 1 million, depending on your state. you gonna pay up to 40% of it in taxes, so it leaves you 1.8 million. Then with inflation, if that takes 7 years, it’s probably equivalent to 800,000 in today’s money. Not enough to change your lifestyle dramatically. You need at least 5

rayant77

All that's happening is the 4 year cycle is being confirmed. Zoom out, look back 4 years ago at this time. Nearly the exact same movement for BTC albeit at <1/3rd the price. To me this looks like setting up for a much higher relative top in the next run. I'm always hesitant to trust straight TA.. you'd think random world events would cause different outcomes.. but somehow it all seems to be on repeat.

daniel_hanna

Dude 500 BTC is alot i think the economy would have noticed that by now

Jumpy-Imagination-81

You asked "what happened?" when someone said banks are not as dumb as BTC wallet programmers, I answered your question, and that's the thanks I get. You're welcome.

KenFX4

IF you zoom out on a 5 year chart for BTC, it appears the 50WMA is going to cross the 200WMA in the next ~30 days or so (aka, called a "death cross"). That could ironically put us in the "950 - 1000 days past halving window". Historically, all bull runs kick off after that short window. Probably going to see sideways price action until about Jan 2027, assuming no more "black swan's" are swimming around.

Ransdellra13

Well that’s just it, I buy every week regardless, so I don’t mind it being down for an extended period of time. Value spikes every halving, and once all BTC are in circulation, exclusivity will drive value from there. In the meantime, I want to stack whatever I can afford, and if the value is down I get more for my money

Clchalbaud

You short-term BTC and MSTR posers are absolutely insufferable!

Patient_Observer_89

I never listen to that guy, holding BTC in my personal bitget wallet since 2020, haven't even touch it yet, I wanna reach the sky lmaooo

Barou2229

I think big companies don't stress so much about the "little" price spikes and play on a broader level. There have been bunch'a news about how Strategy keeps buying crazy amounts of BTC despite the "low" price. It's just a matter of perspective imo

GiveInsteadOfTaking

The one BTC has been since October 2025

kadavka

I agree even if it doesn’t have any BTC left on it my family still wants to see all the old photos of our grandparents on it before they passed away

kadavka

We have no idea what site or app we even had the BTC on so getting into the laptop is the least difficult issue

Previous_Valuable873

XMR up 4x since last 2.5 years thx, If it continues like this, XMR will overtake SOL when BTC will be around 40k.

Wildwildworld123

Not for me. BTC, USDT, Monero is way better. I havent used Cash for those kinds of things in a very long time.

Phobosion

I wouldn't "throw" money at Bitcoin. However I do continue to expand my BTC holdings on a regular basis, aswell as other less volatile ETFs that also provide steady growth that doesn't keep me checking the value of BTC everyday.

Detailed23

Trump pumped BTC because that's where his bribe money came from. It pumped as soon as he tweeted " buy crypto " on his 100k/mo private feed. Now that the mid terms are over, I expect BTC to go back to low 60's high 50's again. Maybe lower.

Njhuang86

Absolutely! The entire market crashing is not an indictment on BTC. No need to act as if BTC is that far off 80K. The current 73K is only one gap up back to the 80K floor!

TFWG2000

BTC's performance this year sure has sucked!

OneWilling1

it would be really cool if 1 BTC ≈ $1M eventually

cruxtone

Buy/hold the amount of BTC you are going to keep forever. Don't use it to get rich in USD. USD is going to die in the next 25 years.

El_Peregrine

*People always point out “Bitcoin isn’t growing much” during low points, bear markets or after sell offs.* I mean, low points, bear markets, and after selloffs is like 75% of the time with bitcoin... I don't think it's disingenuous at all to point out that bitcoin is exactly where is was 2 years ago (with a lot of volatility), and that when it peaked 5 years ago, it was nearly at the same point. It would take a lack of self reflection to ignore that other basic investments (Nasdaq, S&P, fucking *treasuries)* have outperformed in these time frames. BTC has stagnated, and only the future will tell if the market agrees with most of us that it's undervalued. But right now, it's just boring dogshit.

JimmySki6166

Don’t chase hype! The only crypto worth anything really is BTC. The rest are meme coins with no real value or utility behind them!! Always do your own research before buying

GeneralComposer5885

Not as dumb as BTC wallet programmers

marcelorojas56

I never said BTC is a stock...

WonderMental503

I'd rather get 10.000 BTC for 2 pizzas

Ransdellra13

Good. More BTC per dollar. I’m in it for the long haul and these dips move the needle more

jedi2155

Woulda coulda shoulda is something I tell myself constantly. Was reading about BTC in 2009, but didn't touch my 1st coin until 2020. Missed so many investment opportunities in a dozen things. What I learned is that there are constantly opportunities if you pay attention.

VastJuice2949

You're honestly better off trading BTC against Eth in a arbitrage bot. Generates sats so it's the same thing as mining. Just without the electricity costs

bugsHaveFeelersToo

Prepare to get audited and pay ridiculous amount of tax. But luckily it's long term capital gain not short. Any exchange will be happy to take your BTC

2xfun

Ignore all the gloom and doom in the comments. Welcome and use BTC and a savings account with a long term horizon: 10 years 

CoinCornerEmma

Looks great! I'd add Bitcoin Pizza Day, 22 May 2010, when Laszlo Hanyecz paid 10,000 BTC for two pizzas. It's the first widely documented time bitcoin bought something in the real world 🍕

marcelorojas56

I studied all the BTC fundamentals that support those predictions first... I did not invest my 20% net worth blindly

DiddysAfterparty

Who the fuck is actually selling BTC rn

scott_in_ga

BTC down 30% in 1-year

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spb1

> He keeps saying I'm making a big deal for just 500 dollars. Even tried to show him the charts. and explained to him how much it could worth rn. Is this story real? Even for a luddite it doesnt take much to say "500 BTC is worth $40 million". Not "could be worth", no need to show charts. Just... its $40m

richardto4321

Nah. More BTC is better than less BTC, no matter what your cost basis is. Especially if you're in it for the long-term.

Albert14Pounds

In 2011 500 BTC was $145-$13,075

urwaitisfinallyover

Btc is worth and very good, but the only issue is who accumulated it...Musk ,USA, china and other big accumulatar...so if anyone want to sell their holdings and then it's nose dive..that's why its so sensitive that with any current world scenario it's fluctuated even with USA inflation data...so it's not world currency as already accompalated by riches..i trust BTC ..but it driven by few people...

Lopsided_Mix_4557

If you want a product that feels like a securities-backed line of credit (SBLOC) rather than a rigid 30-year monthly mortgage, true "crypto mortgages" like Milo usually still require monthly payments or heavy structuring. What most people actually do is take an institutional or private collateralized loan against their BTC/ETH (like Ledn’s bullet-style loans, where you pay interest + principal at the end, or custom credit facilities) and use the cash proceeds to buy the property outright or cover the down payment. If you have decent size, check out AlphaGrowth. Beyond on-chain analytics, they work directly with institutional partners and private lending desks to structure bespoke crypto-backed credit lines. That way, you can negotiate flexible repayment terms and conservative LTVs tailored to a property buy without dealing with retail liquidation traps.

Financial-Housing-45

OP, your father may be telling the truth. It was common for some in 2010-2011 to be paid in BTC for some freelancing gigs. You’d take those stuff, store it somewhere, boring and tedious, and forget it. Now, yeah, he probably remembers the value of the gig back then. 300-500 usd. In oct 2011 BTC dropped to 2 usd. In July was about 7 usd if I am not mistaken. It was a bumpy year. Keep searching OP.

F0rtysxity

If you have not read up on Bitcoin and it is a ‘trade’ for you then I believe you will lose conviction and sell when it dips. Buy high and sell low. That’s not good. The best advice would be to treat it as part of a diversified portfolio and put 5% in BTC and 5% in gold and 90% in VT (world index).

cryptokeyhole

Not wrong. BlackRock isn't trading it, it just takes a fee for holding the coins. Those only move when shares are created for people buying in or redeemed for people cashing out, so the selling and buying in the title is IBIT's investors as a group. Being under water means the coins behind their shares cost more on average than they're worth now. That's widened since the post: Friday's file made it six straight days of outflows, nearly 19,000 BTC since 30 Oct, and at $73,800 the gap is about 9%.

TenderLA

BTC goes down, BTC goes up. If you’re not a trader just buy and hold. It’s a long term investment.

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C-Dull

We just need one of those days where BTC is down 28% and alts are down 40-60% each so we can get this over with. Way better than this chop

wolfwood43

Strike gives 3.6% on cash held paid out in BTC, better option IMO

boose36

Could get very ugly for BTC if we fall below $73k. Next resistance from there is \~$67k

Romanizer

They could but if your holding is ideological like that of Satoshi, you would rather send the whole wallet to miners than let the thief get away with it. They could pay a fee of 51 BTC by supplying additional Bitcoin, but would come out with a loss.

Top-Connection-5455

I was at a house party with this guy, he seems pretty cool, but the pain of trying to recover the BTC...

djrion

First off, a BTC only portfolio would be really idiotic. Diversification is key and crypto should be no more than 1 to 5% of your net worth as a highly risky asset. That said, buy and store for future leverage is the ticket.

growin60sec

Consolidation after a big drop usually means nobody knows the timing, so I would plan around your own horizon instead of guessing when. If you can hold for years, doing nothing is a valid plan. If a further drop would force you to sell, trim now while you can think clearly. And I would not trade ETH just because BTC is boring, chop like this is where leverage and overtrading eat people alive.

growin60sec

Part of it is habit from past cycles, but the setup is different now. A lot of the new money comes through ETFs and mostly sits in BTC, so it does not rotate down the risk curve the way exchange inflows used to. Dominance can also fall just because BTC drops, which is not an alt season at all. I agree with the ETH/BTC point above. Until ETH starts outperforming and stablecoin supply is actually growing, I treat alt rallies as trades, not a season.

bananabastard

OP used market top vs market bottom as evidence for whether BTC is a profitable investment. I didn't cherry-pick dates, I basically said to use any other date besides their cherry-picked dates.

Expensive-Fly7530

I love how our generation is starting to realize that boomers are actually retarded, not because they don’t know how to use technology, I don’t blame them for that. It’s because this kids father dosent even grasp the concept of the stock market ? Seriously your dad dosent understand the BTC chart rising and gaining value?

scott_in_ga

| Sector / Asset | 1 Month | 6 Months | 1 Year | |---|---:|---:|---:| | Energy | -5.55% | +10.63% | +36.42% | | Health Care | +9.90% | +28.79% | +25.48% | | Materials | +5.44% | +0.70% | +19.95% | | Consumer Staples | +7.98% | +7.01% | +17.86% | | Information Technology | -16.71% | -6.14% | +11.49% | | Financials | +5.40% | +11.55% | +7.91% | | **S&P 500 Overall** | **-4.99%** | **-0.32%** | **+7.90%** | | Real Estate | +7.71% | -0.92% | +6.69% | | Industrials | -3.40% | -6.08% | +5.49% | | Consumer Discretionary | +5.25% | -2.18% | -1.59% | | Utilities | +5.02% | -3.56% | -3.79% | | Communication Services | -6.50% | -10.39% | -7.49% | | **Bitcoin (BTC)** | **-7.26%** | **-5.54%** | **-25.23%** | *As of November 6, 2026. Price returns excluding dividends. Sector returns use Select Sector SPDR ETFs; S&P 500 uses SPY. Bitcoin is a separate asset, not an S&P 500 sector. Sources: GetMarketAlerts, Yahoo Finance, Stock Charted.*

Alexander-305

Because the last few cycles trained people to expect it. But the mechanism was never "dominance gets high, then rotates." It was a BTC run strong enough to pull in new money, and that new money went looking for higher beta. Without fresh inflows, dominance near 60% mostly means alts are bleeding against BTC, not coiling up. What I'd watch instead of the dominance number itself: - ETH/BTC. Alts rarely get a real season while ETH keeps lagging, and today ETH is down about 2% on the day versus roughly 1% for BTC. - Stablecoin supply growth. Rotation needs dry powder coming in, not the same money moving around. - Whether alt rallies hold after funding resets. A lot of recent alt pumps have been leverage-driven squeezes that fade once longs pile in and funding turns positive. Not saying it can't happen, just that "it always follows" comes from cycles with very different liquidity. Until those start lining up, I'd treat alt pumps as trades, not the start of a season.

Adorable_Quantity875

BTC es un activo q está madurando y su rendimiento ya no es tanto. Diversifica a largo plazo en lo de siempre. Las 7 magníficas, gld, spy y acciones con dividendos. La única forma de ganarle al largo plazo es creando habilidades de trading q superen por mucho a la inflación.

BowlerLucky5529

He tricked you, he is trying to put you at work, read more abt BTC. You will learn a lot how to hack now. Smart dad...

k4rlh1

You would've been 100% up around this time last year, and that would've been roughly 25% per year return. Unfortunately but also fortunately, BTC has big swings, which imo you've got to be prepared for when stacking this asset

Kooky-Apricot4410

Yeah everyone here has lost 200btc, so basically 20milion of BTC are lost.. come on

Scorpiotsx

A lot of people spent most of their BTC on the dark net.

loontoon

If it was worth $500 when it was used to pay him then the most he or you have lost is $500. I was given 10 BTC in 2011 and then forgot about it until 2017. Its long gone, like your Dad's BTC. C'est la vie.

Main-Inspector-6611

Hard agree on the BTC reacts to the surprise.

Otherwise-Trifle892

I'm all in on BTC as well, but I've started investing elsewhere and holding my stack for the long run. There are so many other potential investments, I'd rather diversify and be sure. We know nothing for certain this life (Nobody knows 💩 about F***)

Capt-Kowalski

It was a curious situation, actually, because the drivers behind BTC and stocks were different. On BTCUSDT it appears that a big entity had been running a short accumulation bout for a couple days before the elections. After the mini rally hit the stocks after dems wiping the floor with resps, there was a spillover effect on the btc too, that caused the price to run into short stops of the traders betting on a downward sentiment. That mini rally in turn left a bunch of long stops behind that got wiped out next day when the operator brought the price back into their original accumulation channel and continued absorption there. They were done accumulating by Sunday evening UTC time and sent the price lower to distribute. By the look of it, they continued to short accumulate yesterday at the new lower price, so I would expect the price to make lower lows this week because it was not looking like they were distributing very heavily yesterday. I haven’t seen the charts today yet, things may have changed, but so far I think the short bias is holding.

CletusBocephus

thats how boomer BTC actually is btw; it aint going nowhere

Crypto_4_Cash

The treasure hunt is on! I really hope you find it. Nowadays 300-500 BTC is absolutely life changing money. Hell, even 1 BTC is life changing money for some.

longonbtc

Not really. I'm going to explain further by using an example. I'm going to use address1 address2 address3 etc during this example instead of using actual bitcoin addresses like 1719H3AWMiM3G3eREmaNe9eCTqsyMBSnk9. Say I own 2 BTC and it's made up of 20 UTXOs that are split evenly among 20 addresses. That's 0.1 BTC at address1, 0.1 BTC at address2, 0.1 BTC at address3, 0.1 BTC at address4, 0.1 BTC at address5, 0.1 BTC at address6, 0.1 BTC at address7, 0.1 BTC at address8, 0.1 BTC at address9, 0.1 BTC at address10, 0.1 BTC at address11, 0.1 BTC at address12, 0.1 BTC at address13, 0.1 BTC at address14, 0.1 BTC at address15, 0.1 BTC at address16, 0.1 BTC at address17, 0.1 BTC at address18, 0.1 BTC at address19, and 0.1 BTC at address20. Now let's say I paid 0.09 BTC for my tax bill. I use the UTXO at address1 to pay my tax bill and receive the change back at address21. They won't know anything about address2, address3, address4, address5, address6, address7, address8, address9, address10, address11, address12, address13, address14, address15, address16, address17, address18, address19, or address20.

craziness105

Please when your idea will be clear just slap me with 2 BTC

CereBRO12121

I remember when Bitcoin came out i got around 20 BTC from a Bitcoin fountain over a few days. I tossed the Notebook around that time and figured that the change Money wasn’t worth any hassle. I got pissed in 2014 realizinh the 20k I threw away. Now it would be over a million. I don’t think about it and don’t blame myself.

Efficient_Visage

Let it drop, the lower the better, we are a month away from the beginning of the peak accumulation period before the next halving. Everyone should be hoping for a fire sale. BTC is going to have a new ATH, and its a when, not an if.

BlueCreek_

He’s likely never tracked the price of it, doesn’t sound like he knows the value changes if he thinks 500BTC = $500

Some_Designer2071

I too once held about 100BTC and it got stolen. Not even due to a fault of my own. Didn't bother with crypto since. There are zero checks and balances. There's no one to call. Pretty sure every BTC out there must have been stolen at least once. The concept of anonymous irreversible transactions are weaknesses not strengths.

Darkstar_111

The part of the story that makes no sense is the father thinking it's worth 500 bucks. Everyone understands stocks, BTC works the same way. Literally all you have to say is "you have 50 million dollars in bitcoin on an old laptop??"

DangerHighVoltage111

Bitcoin Cash already has them. As basically anything else BTC Maxis want...

Electrical_Chard3255

thanks for advice, but im pretty good thanks, some of the existing systems have been shown to be whofully inadequate this is one half of my seed, with 0.1BTC on it, happy for anybody to attack it 1B26 881C 64B2 64C5 4553 06EB 3CFB 7A99 9697 give it a go

trowawayatwork

thanks Mr investment professional lol what if BTC itself was overinflated and was just correcting? I don't see BTC needing to react directly to inflation numbers. that doesn't make sense, and there's no mechanism for it to work like that. use that investment professional brain to make a simple deduction and take it or leave it. Can bitcoin be printed into oblivion like a normal government controlled currency? If yes, you don't buy it, if no it seems plausible it's an inflation hedge