BTC

TentacleHockey

I love trading fee free BTC on Binance US 🤷

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BTC

Southern_Answer1894

Someone will mention meme coins eventually so here is what you need to know before you touch one. They are not investments. They have no revenue, no product, and no floor price. The only way someone profits is if someone else buys in after them and sells before it crashes which means by the time you see it trending the people who got in early are already looking for exits. Treat anything that is not Bitcoin as high risk speculation at best. Set your expectations now: most altcoin positions go to zero and the ones that do not take years of drawdowns to recover. If you would not be fine losing every dollar you put into something that is not BTC, do not put it in.

AdhesivenessNorth847

Im still holding 25BTC since 2016

devCheckingIn

Back's counter-point is that BTC is up 30% since it dumped to $60k at the end of last year. 🙄

almo2001

BTC was created to enrich people who got in early. Anything else is bonus.

104MAS

Coinbase is the biggest ripoff ever. They charge you a percentage for every trade, the have a ridiculous spread and will way overcharge you, they go down so you can’t sell or buy during crashes etc. I can buy a BTC etf on Schwab for zero fee and a 1 cent spread.

SuessMeetsSats

I think the better question is how much BTC can you stack if you simply DCA each week...whatever you can afford to stack and forget. Bet that's more than .5 by 2035. DCA BTC & HODL ;)

ZachF8119

No… inflation still hits every stage in mining. If the USD is weaker BTC should be higher when it’s 1 btc per 60 to 100k.

John_parker2

BTC doing its weekly "humble the retails traders" routine.

efbh1979

I had some money from inheritance, about 25k back in 2020 when the Covid crash happened. I was close to buying bitcoin (literally had my finger on the confirm button for about 5 BTC) but ended up playing it safe and buying stocks. Huge mistake... To this day I keep wondering how my life would play out by 2030-2032 if I didn't chicken out on 5 btc.... 😭

zenethics

BTC or no, 2 accounts is ideal with only spending money in each. Ideally one is a big national bank and one is a local credit union. My 2c.

Vnogkiller

Gpt — My opinion: shielded ZEC is the superior privacy technology. Monero has historically been the superior privacy default/user-behavior system. That distinction is the whole knife edge. Zcash shielded transactions use zk-SNARKs, meaning the chain can verify a transaction is valid without exposing sender, receiver, or amount. That is a deeper privacy model than Monero’s “hide the real spend among decoys” approach. Zcash is not saying “one of these 16-ish outputs is real.” It is saying “the proof is valid, but the details are not revealed.” That is a cleaner cryptographic beast. Zcash’s Orchard protocol is the current shielded design, and Halo/Halo 2 removed the old trusted-setup problem that haunted earlier Zcash narratives. Monero’s strength is mandatory privacy by culture and protocol design: ring signatures for sender ambiguity, stealth addresses for receiver privacy, and RingCT for hidden amounts. That makes Monero very strong in practice because users are not constantly choosing between transparent and private modes. Where Monero is weaker, in my view, is that ring-signature privacy is probabilistic and decoy-dependent. The system’s privacy depends heavily on ring size, decoy selection, wallet behavior, timing, churn patterns, and statistical analysis resistance. Monero researchers themselves continue refining decoy selection because the wrong decoy distribution can leak probabilistic clues. Where Zcash is weaker is social/adoption reality. Optional privacy used to be its Achilles’ heel. Transparent ZEC damaged the narrative because people could say, fairly: “great tech, but most users are not using it privately.” That critique becomes less powerful as shielded adoption rises, but it was real for years. Recent analytics have shown meaningful growth in shielded supply and shielded usage, which is exactly the metric that matters for ZEC’s privacy set. So my ranking: Best pure privacy architecture: shielded ZEC. Best historical privacy-by-default coin: Monero. Best future-facing privacy tech: ZEC, especially if shielded-by-default wallets become normal. Best current “normie can’t accidentally use it transparently” privacy UX: Monero. My blunt thesis: Monero is a beautifully hardened privacy coin. Zcash is a more powerful cryptographic privacy platform that spent years underusing its own weapon. That is why your line works: If BTC proves digital scarcity matters, then ZEC argues private digital scarcity matters.

MoHawkCrypt0

Trading is hard. Holding BTC for 1, 3, 7 or 10 years ain't easy either, that's for damn sure. that is unless you like watching your USD value go down by 77% every so often. "Smart people" scream it's going to zero, zero! sell it you stupid quack. But you sit back ignore those clowns, chuckle say those guys are fn idiots and you wait, then wait some more..........and more....and guess what, yup you're still waiting. That's ok though cuz it will be back over 100k by Christmas (long time I know) but that's probably your last chance to buy sub 100k Bitcoin. So trade it or mock it, but if your actually smart. You'll buy bitcoin regularly, smile and wait

Affectionate_Pen6882

BTC is a Comet, you cant change its trajectory

Dmarine999

Yes. BTC is becoming centralized with all the BTC treasury companies. And rumors of Saudi fund interested in gobbling up a bunch could make it a lot worse. Retail will avoid, and that will hurt long-term.

na3than

It's really not. Two times less than 1 BTC is -1 BTC.

Dmarine999

It certainly feels this way.... BTC treasury companies, lead by MSTR, are hoarding and making it less decentralized. I feel like this is not a good thing. I have just hit 2 coins recently, but I feel that I'm too late too the party.

Not_Bound

It’s exactly 1/2 BTC.

Possible-Change-9160

If you sell it and buy new BMW SUV than certainly your life will be different from now.. you will have BMW and will not have 0.5 BTC

Livinlife_

I would say get her something else too. Lots of people don’t care about the future and want something now. I know it sucks, and in 10 years she’ll be like “why didn’t you buy me more BTC!!” But that’s how it works.

pablo_in_blood

Yeah, for a lot of people .5 BTC would be life changing _right now_, let alone in 2035

pablo_in_blood

Yeah, exactly. 0.5BTC is life changing money for a lot of people already, depending on where in the world you live.

Magiamarado

BTC is an antiquated asset that has performed terribly in the last 12 months. You’re better off investing into the Nasdaq with leverage.

slacknoise8

Yeah and it’s the equivalent to 0.5 BTC

ViniSamples

It's 2 times less than 1 BTC

retireontop

Depends on what is life changing for you. BTC will probably be around 300-600k by that time.

Fun_Manufacturer_122

Yes, that seems like a reasonable number of BTC. It's a shame it's so difficult to reach those BTC levels.

morefundsneeded

Well… I’d say .5 BTC combined with any other type of motion I think you definitely got a bag there brother

morefundsneeded

Well… I’d say .5 BTC combined with any other type of motion I think definitely got a bag there gang

Direct_Low6537

I think that 0.1 BTC would be life changing I future. But for now my main goal is to achieve as much BTC as possible for me.

slacknoise8

It’s higher than 0.4 BTC

Lefties_TheWorst7331

BTC > shitcoins. They're called "alt" coins for a reason.

brkinard

Huge short position by market...either lots of people getting rich soon or BTC jumps to 82k. I think people getting rich this week.

Fit-Tiger-6448

I think the whole crypto market is done. BTC will stay the longest but most if not all Altcoins have seen their ath. Now it‘s all dying. Slow but steady. XRP will never see 2$ again like ETH will never see 4000 again. This year XRP will go below 1 and ETH under 1000. It can be over in 2028. The market is exhausted.

phaceacid

Love to read this kind of stories. BTC is a solution.

panthera_N

If BTC behaves like past cycles, that's a good thing, because it means BTC will continue to recover strongly after sharp price drops and continue to reach new ATH.

Ok-Guarantee598

Wouldn’t recommend doing bets with friends and family. Just buy more BTC and friends remain friends

Powerful_Government7

This tension is real and under-discussed. When risk-free yields are 5%, the opportunity cost of holding a zero-yield asset like BTC is significant. The "digital gold" thesis worked when rates were near zero. Now BTC needs to deliver equity-like returns just to justify not parking capital in T-bills. The question isn't whether BTC goes up — it's whether it goes up enough to compensate for the carry cost of not holding 5% risk-free.

Powerful_Government7

This asymmetry is actually well-documented historically. Only 3 of 13 BTC summers were green after a Q1 crash. The pattern you're noticing — needs a catalyst to bounce but drops on its own — is typical of a market where buyers are exhausted and sellers don't need a reason. Doesn't mean it's going lower necessarily, but it means the burden of proof is on the bulls right now.

Ill_Elk7625

Around 10, maybe less. Less than 2% of the worlds population own btc. There’s 60m+ millionaires that grows each year, with the amount of btc that have been lost and the amount locked up by treasury companies(that keep buying regardless of sentiment and price)/countries/companies/sovereign funds holding it on their balance sheets the chances are that less than 2m people will ever own a whole btc, most won’t even own .05btc. Approximately 10-30m people join the network each year with more in a bull market. When BTC hits $1m that’ll be a wake up call that drags in more people.

panthera_N

People need to stop hating the bears. BTC and ETH both have huge market capitalizations. We need to see a drop in price to get more X value. If they just pump slowly, it will be no different from gold or the SP500. >Let's pray together for: 2026: BTC 50k.......ETH 1k 2028: BTC 180k.....ETH 3.5k

BlackDog990

BTC doesn't fix wealth inequality, nor does it claim to.

perfectpaperpusher

Idk man that number keep getting smaller and smaller. I remember when BTC dom was at 70%

Cultural-Candy3219

I agree with that split. The clean bear case for BTC is not simply “bills yield 5%.” It is credible fiscal consolidation, positive real yields that can stay positive, and less fear that purchasing power has to be defended outside the banking system. If that combination actually holds, the hard-money premium should compress. The messier version is different: yields stay high until something in credit, refinancing, or politics starts to creak, then policy has to choose between tight money and system stress. In that world, high yields can hurt BTC for long stretches while still feeding the longer-term reason some people want an asset with a fixed issuance schedule. So I would not treat 5% Treasuries as a thesis-killer by themselves. I would treat them as a filter. If someone owns BTC mainly as levered liquidity beta, high real yields are hostile. If they own it as a long-duration hedge against fiscal dominance, the question is whether the fiscal path has actually improved, not just whether today’s cash rate is attractive.

Strus57

BTC is the gamble now that people are waking up and seeing the "digital gold" narrative as a sham.

Str8truth

The short-term dip may have been from Strategy not buying BTC this past week. For the longer term, BTC is not interesting many new buyers, so its value will probably continue to drift down.

BoomerSooner-SEC

I’m sort of tired of this inequality bullshit. BTC started at less than a dollar. I don’t care how poor or downtrodden you were you could afford a dollar. The reason there are have and have nots in BTC is because there were people who took the risk and people who didn’t. There are clearly unequal outcomes but we ALL had the same access. These outcomes are driven not by social forces but by decisions you did or didn’t make. Thats not “wealth inequality”. Thats the wealth you deserve.

Rare_Rich6713

Yet Google said it’s 3 years away. Props to chains like ALGO and QAN for developing quantum-resistant chains already. My question is how easy will it be for BTC to migrate.

nullc

It's a unserious garbage proposal which has effectively already failed. its authors and proponents consistently lie about it's properties -- including critical ones such as the fact that it will confiscate the coins of people using a traditional timelock to pay to a moderately complicated multisig. It's also already been discussed to death and the proponents keep using bad-faith techniques like flooding with AI generated slop intentionally breaking forum rules then complaining their posts were removed or just outright lying and saying they were censored when their posts were never sent at all and doing it from behind sock accounts to escape consequences for their bad conduct. The proposal absolutely guts bitcoin's programmatic functionality, stripping out conditionals (so no "if then" ... so much for calling it script) and caps taproot trees to 127 leaves which means you can't recover from the missing if statements by pre-expanding all the possibilities (at least if your script had mode than 7 choices).. Keep in mind that 10 choose 5 is 252 so even 5 out of ten like thresholds have issues. And then it does all this without even accomplishing a purpose-- when pressed the proponents have been forced to admit that it won't stop or abate spam. Not the "spam" is even a major issue currently or for the last several years-- prevailing transaction rates for immediate confirmation are just cents [and have been for a long time](https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),all,weight).

Top-Care-8946

I recommend consider using "cold" aka Hardware wallet instead of "hot wallet" like online account. The main idea is that your account can be "freezed" or become inaccessible for various reasons.Once you have significant amount of BTC or any crypto assets it's really very stressful to lose them. As fact there are already some online platforms closed and this exposes a direct risk of loss your assets. If you have Hardware wallet then you can be sure that you control your private keys (it's the main key to access your funds and make transactions) because in crypto world there is a rule: Not your keys, not your coins. I am using for an example Trezor Safe3 but there are different HW wallet companies that offer their products. Some of them are BTC-Only, some are cross-network based (They're supporting different blockchain networks). Generally you can buy crypto from exchange platform and then send or transfer onto your wallet address or you can also trade directly in-app, but these transfers have higher fees. I am buying crypto from Kraken and I always transfer funds immediately to my Trezor.

XXsforEyes

I love that so many people fixate on early Bitcoin adopters and call it out as unfair. They took the risk, they get the reward. One point of BTC is that people have opportunity. Anyone with a computer or a cell phone and an internet connection can participate. It’s still up to the person to do something about that opportunity: mine it, buy it, earn it, HODL it. If you (the indefinite you) are the person stopping you from doing one of these things, that’s on you.

MoistAbuelita

BTC price is being suppressed as we speak due to foreign countries usage to circumnavigate trad-fi and illegally transact for their own benefit. Iran cough cough Russia cough cough NK

SoundMoneyWade

Flow vs Thesis. Real yields hurt BTC in the short run by raising the opportunity cost. That's real and people underestimate how much speculative positioning gets unwound when bills offer 5%. But that's a flow problem, not a thesis problem. The thesis only breaks if the fiscal situation resolves cleanly, which would mean the high yields worked, the debt gets managed, and the dollar stays trusted. That's the scenario where you'd want to revisit the hard-money argument. The more likely path, based on where debt issuance is headed, is that high yields become politically unsustainable before they become fiscally solved. That's the loop you're pointing at, and I think it's the right place to focus. Short run, yields create headwinds. Longer run, the reason yields are high is part of the reason BTC exists.

quantumsparq

Yep. I keep an amount of BTC in a cold wallet for liquidity. I’m very comfortable with it.

Typical_Pool_2969

I remember buying my first coin at around 20$. Good times.. at some point I was holding 48 BTC before everyone's funds disappeared, not much of security back then. Lesson learned

Ge_Yo

Yep. The fact that governments, institutions, and even projects now treat BTC as a reserve or settlement asset already says a lot about how far the perception has evolved.

Ge_Yo

True. And that’s why the idea of native BTC utility is becoming a bigger conversation now too, not just BTC as passive long-term savings. Delegated borrowing, productive BTC reserve models, and BTC-backed liquidity could become a huge shift over time.

seekingcellini

Spends tens of thousands on tokens other than BTC

Ge_Yo

That perspective definitely seems to be slowly evolving now though. More native BTC utility, collateral, and productive BTC infrastructure are starting to emerge without compromising self-custody.

Ge_Yo

I know, but now it’s interesting seeing more infrastructure being built around native BTC utility too, not just price appreciation alone. Use cases like BTC collateral and productive BTC utility are slowly expanding.

__Quarzer__

30% of my BTC are still on 6 different exchanges. Reason is easy. If I need fast money I dont have to be afraid of blocks. I bought the sats with my FIAT and let them there. If I need to sell some of them, they will return to the exact same bank account and all is fine and fast. Why 6 different? U heard of FTX? U never know. Diversity of exchanges and not assets. I'm 100% in BTC. 😄

Party01

I rather invest my money in ETFs then in BTC right now

stevorich09

This is why i like the solution BTC presented

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Few_Slip_4752

Without the bank account, where did the cash you traded the BTC for, go?

lurker_lurks

Have you ever moved BTC on the block chain? I worked at a bank for 5 years. The first time I moved BTC from an exchange to a cold wallet, I realized what it meant in terms of sovereignty. For me it was comparable a religious/spiritual experience, which was completely unexpected. Yes doubling up is nice and 50% dumps suck but having absolute freedom to send and receive BTC should not be dismissed so casually.

atreyuthewarrior

Bought 23 or so for $8000 per BTC it dropped to $4000 per BTC. Balance went to $2.4m. Sole at $1.8m. If it wasn’t being made redundant at the same time due to Covid I may have acted differently

wutzebaer

Letting my 30BTC on MtGox

PenguinsInvading

Either BTC or you have to diversify. But simply diversifying just because you heard "don't put all your eggs in one basket" is very flawed. It's just the first step. Next you have to deep research coins, analyse onchain data, read projects whitpapers, trace whale wallets, analyze the charts etc. In other words, you have to know which coins to buy waaay in advance. Then you have to wait for your key price points to trigger, then actually starting to buy.

Empty-Operation569

I have 1/3 in BTC SOL ETH. Staked and I DCA those. 1/3 in well researched alts, staked. Then 1/3 is for trading plus a few wild cards with insane staking yields that seem worth the risk.

GlorionToken

Really interesting analysis. The TradFi redemption flow as a shadow variable makes a lot of sense — institutional products like GBTC create sell pressure that didn't exist in previous cycles. The old stablecoin inflow = BTC pump playbook was built on retail dynamics. With ETFs and institutional products now in the mix, the signals have changed. Good data work!

steyMorgan

I don’t go all in on one coin I prefer diversification to manage risk. For core holdings, I stick mostly to BTC and ETH, then a small portion in stablecoins and a few selective alt plays depending on market conditions. I also use Coindepo to help keep everything structured, especially for tracking positions and staking yields instead of just chasing one bet.

avantartist

I was an early adopter and thought I was late to the party. Sold In 2013 for a down payment on a house, I’d a decent exit point but then watch BTC bleed out and didn’t start buying again for a while. I joke if I’d held I could have bought the entire block.

GlorionToken

Haha accurate! BTC has been in this tight range for a while now. The boring consolidation phase is actually healthy though — it shakes out the weak hands and builds a stronger base for the next move. Patience is the hardest skill in crypto!

Character-Resist-961

What’s worse: watching your BTC drop against the USD temporarily, or having your entire bank account frozen for weeks because of bureaucracy? I don’t treat Bitcoin as an investment, but as the only real escape from a broken system. Monetary sovereignty and permissionless, trustless transactions are why I’ll always be a Bitcoiner.

ThisIsMyFifthAccount

If you bought BTC before 2021 you absolutely care about a 2x-10x multiple on your cost lots, and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise People joining BTC in the last few years can say that but, and the multiples of appreciation from earlier don’t have to be the deliberate intent, but acting like it’s disregarded water odd your back is silly

GlorionToken

Great portfolio breakdown! The BTC/ETH core makes a lot of sense as a foundation. Hyperliquid has been impressive — real usage and real revenue is what separates it from hype-only projects. Your point about delivery vs promises is spot on, that's the key lesson most crypto veterans learn the hard way. Good luck with the bull market!

honeybunnylux

Only BTC, and few meme coins

liquid_at

There is a certain pattern in posts, claiming how "BTC + (limited number of usually respected alts) + Random shitcoin are clearly the best possible portfolio. Totally doesn't look as if they tried to associate their scams with established names to fake credibility at all. 100% honest recommendation by a concerned citizen.

GoblinSarge

...so sell it all and out it into BTC?

CryptoDeepDive

75% BTC and 25% Eth. Rest is a gamble.

Optimal-Divide8574

This is true. I don’t look back and say “I wish I’d bought 10 BTC in 2009” I’d have doubled or tripled my money and made a few grand the first time it spiked and I’d have thought I was clever. I wish I’d bought 10 BTC and forgotten where I’d put it or that I’d even bought it. And then suddenly remembered. That would be good. Having bought BTC early and sold way too soon must be much more upsetting than having just missed the boat. I did buy some in 2021 so I’m still ahead. But not in a life changing way.

Temporary-Cause730

I keep the majority in BTC (50-60%), some ETH and SOL (around 10-15% combined) and the rest I use in 2-3 conviction plays. I used to have like 15 coins, but honestly it just makes it harder to follow and mentally exhausting. 

panthera_N

bo\_bo has pumped 10,000x in the last 3 weeks, while I'm still wondering if BTC will drop to 55k, and if it doesn't drop, and I don't buy, I don't make a profit (2x).

sup

To be frank, we lost that argument BTC was invented. Everything transaction is public, on the **fully public, immutable ledger.**

Suspicious-Skill1934

BTC often surprise people

Obic1

So you’re saying BTC is purely speculation? What about the Big 7

Scottex99

CRO proper dead, DOGE maybe some life but yeah just flip all to BTC and check back in another 4 years

rocket_beer

Absolutely not lol You pay transaction fees Fiat is for consumer purchases. The world reserve currency is the stupid USD When BTC becomes the world reserve currency, there won’t be a need to do any of that anymore; it will be native. It’s horrible financially and I’m tired of repeating the same thing over and over to you bots. You lose fractions every single time you spend and replace.

Random_Person_246810

If you truly understand BTC and how fiat works, you should have zero concern.

retracement

The fact you think BTC being up 1k is proof of anything demonstrates you dony actually know what you are talking about.

__redruM

Diversify outside crypto in stocks. In Crypto, only touch the top 2 or 3. Currently I’m slowly downsizing my BTC, which is my only crypto.

Calm-Professional103

Reduced my stack to BTC and some ETH. 

SyZyGy_87

BTC eth and xrp.

SebCandela

I hold BTC and observe the charts of the top 10 coins against Bitcoin. If anything looks technically poised for a run, I switch part of my portfolio into that coin and move back to BTC after taking profits.

BriefWay4604

I had 35-50 coins from 2017-2023. Most of it was XRP though. Now I’m more focussed on a few projects and moved a lot of my holdings into Stocks. Holdings are now (with BTC 40% of my portfolio): BTC, Doge, KAS, ALGO, LINK, HBAR, XRP and Shib.

Disastrous_Fee5953

So unlike BTC, banks actually have countermeasures to prevent crooks from laundering money. Got it!

rocket_beer

Until BTC is the world reserve currency, it is a horrible financial decision to give up any of your SATs and trade them in for FIAT right now. You are paying for the transaction fee twice… and paying tax on that transaction as it is a taxable event. It’s just incredibly stupid to do that right now. We all should be stacking and stacking and stacking as many SATs as we can pack in right now.

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!