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blade0r

I’m trying not to care (too much) about levels, because I ran out of fiat currency and I don’t want to ask for a loan or divest anything else just to buy more BTC. Relax.

Scarab702

Take what is printed and buy unprintable assets(BTC).

JimboSoloYoutube

Without getting too much into the numbers and details cause this isn’t a crystal ball, BTC has dominantly followed a 4 year cycle of 3 Bull years + One Bear year base line. From the last bottom, we kind of « predicted » that the market would top and crash around ~ October 2025. Look at the chart and guess where it crashed. Ive been in this for a couple of years now ~5 following advices of a frend who started way before. When we got a lot of money on the line we get emotions and we kind of think « This will go further up or this will go further down » + you have some big news with major firms adopting BTC since. Truth is for now, those cycles have been respected quite a lot. History is your best bet within all those news, technical analysis post about trading - and emotions.

jenya_

> 1386*… unfortunately On April 9 last year BTC price was about $76K and ETH price was about $1400. Today BTC is about $76K and ETH is about $2200. That's quite an improvement.

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TheAudacityofHopium

That would be incredible!! Instant sell everything I own in my room here and buy BTC with every penny!!!

Scarab702

Through the bank or your credit card. Tell them a personal loan or to do repairs etc. It's none of their business actually. Take out fake money to buy hard money(BTC) that can't be debased.

MajesticExperience46

This is true historically speaking. And probably what will happen. I’m expecting to see BTC drop lower as selling pressure and leveraged longs closing continues. The cascading effect will be devastating. People will lose their trust and sell for a loss which further drives the price down. And then we get to swoop in and buy at $37k-$45k levels. Time to become a whole coin owner for real.

JuxtaposeLife

There are ways to get a Roth on chain so you don't have to trust someone else with your BTC... recommend you look into them. If/when BTC is really needed, the ETF version that has been rehypothecated will be resolved by paying you have in USD. If you have actual BTC they can't do that to you ..

El_Peregrine

Crashes don’t always happen in an hour. We’re likely in the middle of one that’s going to grind on for another week or so, a microcosm of the overall crash that’s gonna take BTC to ~40k over the next 6 months. Don’t belief the lifeless relief rallies, this will be pain with a side of more pain for 2026.

Shot-Structure-1274

The stock market has just started to decline and that's going to make it even worse for BTC. If the SP 500 has a -20% correction, BTC will be down to $45k. We are in very dangerous territory and Nasdaq, and the mega tech stocks are also at huge risk here with the potential of a -35% decline.

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El_Peregrine

Fuck that. Bear markets are painful. Try to minimize your losses, and/or stack if you have conviction in an asset. But BTC bears can be brutal, and I think this will go a lot lower than most people think possible. Market is fucked until the end of the year.

sbounmy

thanks ! I will try to find the data for them then they have 0 BTC but listed because they made txs :) [https://bitcoincompanies.co/germany](https://bitcoincompanies.co/germany)

Adept-Ad-738

This is the truth right here. Literally price manipulation being used by big players. Sell off a chunk of BTC -> Generate media to cause panic so emotional retail investors panic -> Buy BTC back at a cheaper price and enjoy the profits

JeffthefearlessDog

Germany here: You are missing exchanges in Germany like Bison; or Bitpanda in Austria. Did not know on the other hand that Germany holds BTC after selling everything due to law in 2024.

halfbimmer

Bro, all this is a plan to kill crypto. You think they are going to let BTC replace the dollar? Or even let it run in parallel? As soon as the big institutions got involved, the manipulation got 10x. Don't keep your hopes high!

Nathanv92

Alts def need to go to zero other than the select few which provide value. BTC is going no where

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tldr; Spot Bitcoin ETFs in the U.S. experienced significant outflows of $1.49 billion from January 26 to 30, 2026, marking one of their worst weeks. BlackRock’s IBIT ETF alone accounted for $947.2 million in redemptions, equivalent to 11,170 BTC sold. Ethereum ETFs also saw $327 million in outflows, with BlackRock’s ETHA ETF losing $264 million. The sell-off was driven by Bitcoin falling below $85,000, market volatility, and institutional investors reducing exposure to risky assets. This trend raises concerns about the resilience of ETF structures under prolonged pressure. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

oneden

God, you crypto people need to find all kinds of ways to gaslight yourselves, don't you? The gig is up. ETH can be whatever you think it is, but it's useless. All cytpto is useless. There isn't enough liquidity enough to fool people into buying into a highly speculative asset like this. BTC is like 40% down from ATH and ETH is even worse off. For some people it's the worst investment of their lifetime. When Saylor is eventually forced it sell BTC crypto will die with a whimper.

DBRiMatt

Everyone calling for 30k BTC, makes me think we are definitely not going that low xD

83817283918483929

Around 60%, of which 90% is BTC. If it crashes, im so fuckin done lol

Acrobatic_Rate_9377

BTC just crashed underneath support, the race to 50K is on

brewmasterlite

Sounds like a good plan. I’m just slowly buying into BTC with a long time horizon

GreenStretch

Someone close to retirement age should diversify into BTC if they can afford it and can do the work to understand it. But it is not a core retirement asset yet and we need more basic plans while waiting for BTC to take off.

Known_Click

Alts getting sended to hell and BTC hasnt even break down the 75k line yet.

KaiEspina

Your wish is my command - BTC CEO

No-Student-6817

ok.....what a coincidence.... Shot myself in the foot last week. Really liked the result. I was just told where I could sell some BTC so I can get more ammo and shoot a hole in my other foot so they match. They must sell too - DM me...

OpticallyMosache

There was a year that I bought $1/hr on Strike. When I sold BTC in 2025, my crypto gain/loss transaction report had like 10,000 lines. I would buy weekly and do some research on if there's an ideal day/time of the week to buy.

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OHHHHHHHHHH_HES_HURT

you clearly don't understand how eerything follows BTC

francis99994

I would also be I interested in the best method. I am working with Binance with my current DCA plan. But I recently found out that they are not applying the real time BTC price.

9drix9

Appreciate it! 🙏 Yep it pulls historical daily BTC price data and simulates buys on whatever interval you choose (daily, weekly, monthly, etc), so each buy uses that day’s real market price.

K42st

No it won’t have an impact because they aren’t selling spot what you need to understand is simply no investor who buys or sells BTC want to move the spot price by thousands because it doesn’t benefit them and it won’t benefit anyone else, stategy wouldnd be forced selling they wound be selling to cover costs that happens everyday you just don’t see it because it’s on another layer, forced selling the kind that impacts price instantly is through deleveraging where short sellers who bet wrong have to cover their trades, go and look how two sides of the same market work SPOT BTC and DERIVERTIVES then you’ll understand why people that scaremonger are always wrong.

CutFabulous1178

For anyone still interested in $BTC, This is the Buy Low Part, of the “Buy Low Sell High” Remember when BTC started the run <$20k? A couple years ago? Yeah. Wealth is made in Bear Markets.

AlternativeTiger4302

Also, the only assets with buying at the bottom of a bear are BTC only. Then wait for a 4-5x, sell, then wait for a broad crypto pullback, then deploy to alts you like. For me, it'll be ETH, HYPE and TAO.

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AlternativeTiger4302

There's usually three "buckets" fire alt drops from tippity top to bottom: The best: only drop ~75-85% The middle of the pack: drop 90-93% Extreme scenarios: drop 97%+ (and some recover to set new highs next cycle like ADA did from 17/18 cycle to 21/22 cycle). I highly doubt BTC goes that low though. That's the *obvious* spot on a chart. Last cycle everyone thought $10k-$12k and it ended up being $~15.5k. This bear everyone will think mid-30's and it'll end up being 45-50k watch.

718Brooklyn

Strategy is a publicly traded company. He has more debt than almost anyone would feel comfortable with if the price of BTC went well into the red for him. Money is a lot more expensive now than it was 5 years ago. It’s not that complicated. Strategy needs Bitcoin to go up and not crash.

codyznutz

If BTC goes beneath 20 k I think ppl are gonna buy rope and stools

Seattleman1955

Go to a brokerage account on Fidelity and just buy BTC like you buy anything else.

Mr_Mnply

About 2% is BTC, with 15% precious metals, and the rest are stocks/equities. I'd really like to get to 10%. Currently DCAing BTC trying to get up to 5 then eventually 10%

EscortRSBoom

BTC will go lower this year.

JustLTFD

You’re just like him. Assume BTC will rise. Saylor assumed that when he was dropping billions on billions in at $120k! What happens when you use something as collateral for a loan and it drops 50%?! You are forced to sell to cover your debts. That is what is about to happen. So no, he can’t take more loans.

Beneficial_Bike_6445

It looks like it uses historical daily BTC price data and just simulates buys based on whatever interval you pick (daily, weekly, monthly, etc). So it’s basically replaying real market data over time.

Seattleman1955

What people don't want to hear, is that you should have a small slice of your portfolio in Gold and/or Bitcoin and don't think of it as being more than it is. It's a more mature asset now and it's more like a tech stock. My QQQ actually outperformed BTC over the last 5 years. Keep the percentage small, stop "believing" in it like a cult, and manage it like gold (small percent).

schostack

Buy BTC Strike transfer to Cake then exchange. There’s probably cheaper ways, but that works for me.

BakedGoods

not once BTC supply hits 21million. is it a ponzi before the supply limit but not after? doesn't sound intellectually consistent.

Miss_Curie

BTC doesn’t have a cash-flow floor, agreed. But $0 would require demand to go basically to zero *and* the network to become irrelevant or broken. With global liquidity, ETFs/rails, and a persistent ‘buyers at lower prices’ crowd, the more realistic bear case isn’t $0 — it’s a brutal drawdown + long period of underperformance. That’s why position sizing matters more than predictions-you don’t need to be right about the future if your bet size can’t ruin you.

KeepCalm_HateArsenal

2% BTC And thats 2% too much

anon-187101

why would I? BTC is going to $1mm+ per coin also - sell it for what? and take a giant tax hit in one go? no thanks

Soggy_Stargazer

Trading some BTC for lifestyle chits is never a bad trade. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed, you have a house which is just a different form of diversification. Never regret selling if what you buy is a better life. You can't eat bitcoin. You can't live under bitcoin.

xXSomethingStupidXx

Down 20-something percent on all my BTC holdings. Buying more tomorrow :)

Feeling-depress369

50% MSTR 25%BTC 25% Cash. Will be deploying more as we go down.

Leverage_Trading

Enough times and fundamental reason that anyone with functioning brain can see that BTC moves in cycles

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[How to Position Yourself for the Coming Bitcoin $BTC Crash 📉](https://davestradebook.substack.com/p/how-to-position-yourself-for-the)

BackgroundTeacher210

MSTR is leveraged BTC

Miss_Curie

If BTC is at 35k that late in the cycle, the important part isn’t *which alt survives* — it’s that liquidity is gone. In those conditions, alts almost always fall more than BTC and take longer to recover. Personally: * BTC first. ETH only after BTC starts to base. * I wouldn’t size alts aggressively — “good projects” still drop 70–90% in real bears. * Holding only makes sense if your position size lets you sit through more downside without forcing emotional decisions. The bottom usually isn’t a price number — it’s when BTC stabilizes, leverage is flushed, and everyone who said “I’ll buy lower” is suddenly quiet.

metamorphosis

If I asked any TA expert 2 weeks ago where BTC is heading I would get a different answer. TA in crypto is basically it can go up, but also it could go down. If it goes up you can expect resistance here abd if it goes fine supports are here. Which btw can be broken if there is momentum I am not claiming he is saying it for attention, but don't think he is respected more than any other TA in crypto

Donut_LordO

I guess it depends on if you believe BTC is the future. I’m sure many people thought that BlackBerry was the uncontested king of smartphones and was the future, and then it died all the way to zero, and Apple became king. I don’t blindly believe that BTC will be the future currency of the world. It is speculative, and everything would have to fall perfectly into place for it to replace fiat. I still own BTC, prob because I like to gamble. For retirement, better stick to dividend paying ETF’s

Radiant_Setting9172

Sometimes markets find their (local) top in QT times, like in 2019, or…2025. Bitcoin performance is highly correlated with excess liquidity. Retail was virtually nonexistent this cycle, hence the poor BTC performance (and NO ALTSEASON). (I’m well aware the above comparison is not perfect, as 2019 was a mid-term year, while 2025 was a post-halving year. But still, markets topped on apathy in both cases and as happened in 2019, a full 8-12 month bear market with a -50%-60% slow bleed from the top will probably occur again).

King-esckay

He can use the BTC as collateral, and while it is cheap, borrow against it. When BTC rises, he can pay back the loan cents on the dollar and make even more. He has enough BTC now that he could do that for as long as he wanted.

Superbad_Zombie

I send BTC from a CEX to Kraken then swap

Jealous-Impression34

Thanks man! This is the type of hopium that i was after. I have no double that 1 BTC will hit $1 million USD, when??????? Maybe after 2030? Is a very sensible statement.

Mobile-Passenger3214

Price was well over $100k a few months ago this is the opportunity dont wait for another opportunity… of course dont go all in it is worth to create a stablecoin saving to buy in case it dips even more and if not you still have the money for any other non crypto related thing. I will do a dual investment with “buy low” that way you get a 10% APR in USD and if price dips it will get you BTC if not you got the money for any other thing

xbriannova

It does increase your position. Perhaps in a way, you are DCAing. Considering it is almost certainly inevitable that Bitcoin rises again, your method is less risky, but potentially less rewarding than waiting for Bitcoin to get close to the projected bottom. If you are shaken by the constant drop in BTC prices, you can always halt your investments in BTC and wait longer.

ripndipp

We are back to Biden levels of BTC

Familiar_Use_8237

I called 62 in a post a week+ ago where people were making fun me, like BTC wasn’t going down. You definitely have the same idea.

el-hermit

Sigh.. I wish I had the same enthusiasm like newcomers trying to find the bottom. The Dunning-Kruger effect with BTC is really strong and the slap out of it is usually expensive. Just DCA and forget about the price.. a lucky few time it well, but that’s nothing short of gambling. DCA & HODL is the way

No_Presentation1242

So you won’t by now but will buy in a small window and then won’t buy below that? If your plan is to get to 1 BTC buying lower would make that goal easier.

bgabel84

It is only bearable to people who have been in BTC long enough. Again, why did you buy BTC? I bought to slowly rid myself of the corrupt shitty system we find ourselves in. My time horizon is long. If you need cash now do NOT buy BTC.

reddituserxxxxxxx7

Yup, exactly what i’m doing. DCA spread around diff equities and ALWAYS putting into BITCOIN. I love what it stands for. Ride the volatility. Not tryna get rich quick over here. Maybe in 10-15 years - it’s called INVESTING for a reason. I believe personally in BTC.

hryipcdxeoyqufcc

It's the first time humans found a way to replicate gold-like scarcity in a digital form. The larger the mining network, the harder it is for anyone to break the 21 million BTC supply cap. And that cap is becoming more and more resilient each year as the network grows and supply is restrained. Similarly, the value of gold is that it's not possible to make more outside a super nova, and is relatively convenient to work with compared to other precious metals. So naturally, governments have been using it as the de facto global reserve currency. Because unlike fiat, they know that no other governments can meaningfully create more gold. Bitcoin blows that use case out of the water.

Leynnox

No he wont, he has a large stock of USD, even if btc goes to $10, he can pay for 3 years in USD before needing to sell BTC, that's what he says at least

keepingitreal68

Desperation for an asset that has no intrinsic value!! What have we become. Go to Vegas, Biloxi, pick your casino. BTC and all the other “cryptocurrencies “ have zero clue. Period

OptimalPlantIntoRock

Also, worth noting that at least 5 million BTC have been lost and will not be recovered. Thus in your example BTC is still more scarce than the hypothetical coin.

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OptimalPlantIntoRock

No. Unless somehow that Alt became much more in demand than BTC. But at this point it’s unlikely with BTC’s dominance of the entire market.

ieatvegans

As of this message of mine, BTC is 76,877. That's terrible, and cope doesn't change that.

Razpaljotka

Cash – 12.81% Stocks – 9.32% ETFs – 22.83% Commodity – 9.63% Crypto – 15.09% (BTC - like 10% and 5% ALTs) Mutual Funds – 12.81% Life Insurance – 10.94% Depreciating – 6.57%

SpaceballsTheCritic

Look, i was mining in 2010, i understand the argument. The only reason i didn’t hold was i under estimated first mover advantage. As a thought experiment consider this. Why BTC? Why not the thousand other sha-based coins that were launched? Why not any of the other more advanced coins that came along? Why not a coin launched by JP Morgan, or CBDC? They can all have a fixed suppy and ready integration into the market. What, truly, makes BTC special? Nothing, absolutely nothing, except it was first.

PlanNo3321

So your long term goal is to get closer to 1 BTC but you are buying ONLY if price drops below $68k? How do you expect to get closer to 1 BTC if it NEVER drops below $68k?

fingurdar

>Because the value is tethered to nothing, guess what? It's not "worth" anything. You’re partly correct. It has no intrinsic value, apart from the value that masses collectively agree it has. If tomorrow, masses collectively resolved all at once “BTC is worthless”, it would become worthless. Likewise with fiat. For as long as it’s collectively agreed that BTC has >0 value, however, it carries utility. E.g., facilitating private party transactions without requiring involvement/oversight from institutional payment processors who’ve displayed an escalating willingness to meddle in private affairs based on pretenses many have deemed arbitrary, capricious, or otherwise objectionable.

neksys

I’ve been invested since 2013. Took profits to pay off my student loans. Took profits to put a down payment on a house. Took profits to set my kid up with a college fund. I will always own and hold BTC but it doesn’t make a lick of sense to worry too much about how you could have done things differently 5 or 10 years ago.

Miss_Curie

Feels less like manipulation and more like the usual leverage getting flushed. Every cycle people call it rigged when price chops or dumps. BTC always looks broken before it recovers. Same story, new headlines.

FirstAmendmentIsDead

75% BTC, 5% IBIT, 15% S&P 500, 5% cash

neksys

I’ve BEEN holding for 10+ years. Got robbed twice (Mt. Gox and Quadriga), made a million mistakes, won and lost on bets and learned a ton since I made my first buy in late 2013. BTC will always be a part of my holdings, but it’s so institutionalized and commodified now that I don’t see it ever becoming the “main currency”. I expect we will see blockchain technology become more and more interwoven in our day to day finances, but IMO there is no plausible path to total fiat replacement in our lifetimes.

OpticallyMosache

I'm preparing myself for $40-50k by end of year. If you wanted more BTC than you currently have, these high volatility bear markets are a gift. I'm content with the amount I have and will hold until retirement. If/when we're below $50k, I'll likely consider adding to my stack.

Aromatic_Union9246

My plan is to hold until 2035. been holding since 2017) except sold some to buy my house in 2020 (which in hindsight was a bad trade lmao). Still happy I have a paid off hose though. I’m still buying regularly, but i treat it as if it works out I’ll have a ton more freedom in retirement and if it doesn’t I’m still investing normally outside of BTC.

No_Knee3385

if you hold alts that are fully deployed (not still on testnet, not TGE, not at all peaked), then likely a time to sell them and DCA into BTC. Most alts will not last more than one full cycle

Nice_Material_2436

>Well it is a real number just like the number on your bank app is " real" to you. What you are missing is that the number of how much Bitcoin you have is indeed very real. You have a slice of that Bitcoin and you are the sole owner. No one else can own the sats that you own the keys to. Also, that's not how a ponzi works or else your gold is a ponzi too because most people who "own" gold only own a certificate that says they do. You can have a run on the banks and when you get to the bank your money ain't there due to fractional reserves. That literally cannot happen with btc. I physically own the keys to my coins, no one can spend them but me. I have the sole ownership. I'm not talking about your amount of Bitcoin, I'm talking about the value of your Bitcoin. Virtually nobody accepts payment directly in Bitcoin without converting to dollars first. The amount of Bitcoin someone has is actually irrelevant, the only thing that matters is how much it can be sold for. >A quick little ponzi lesson for you. For something to be a ponzi scheme there must be someone controlling the money and business. There must be someone or some entity promising you returns or else you can label any commodity as a ponzi lol. So tell me, Who is promising you returns with Bitcoin? Who creates Bitcoin? Figure that out and you'll have your answer. Again, nobody accepts Bitcoin directly as payment. There is always a third party converting it to dollars before payment to a merchant. A merchant doesn't care how much Bitcoin you have, he cares about how much you can sell it for. This is the key to understanding why it actually is a Ponzi, Who is promising returns with Bitcoin? Bitcoin evangelists like yourself, you implied it will only go up so there's your answer. Who creates Bitcoin? That's irrelevant because nobody accepts Bitcoin as I previously explained. Who controls the supply of money to allow you to sell your Bitcoin is the question you should be asking. >Bitcoin needs a constant stream of computer power to secure the network and create new BTC. What you miss is the gold industry also needs constant resources to create. Both of these commodities need resources. Gold needs infrastructure, mines, machines, transportation, refining facilities. Just like how Bitcoin needs computing power. Both commodities are " hard" to create. Meaning it takes money and time to produce both. It takes infrastructure to produce both. It is hard to produce both forms of money hence why we call it hard money. The miners are paying for the infrastructure to create Bitcoin because it is profitable just like how gold refiners and mines extract and refine gold because it is profitable to do so. Miners make money by selling the asset they produce... Wait for it... Just like how gold miners sell the gold they extract and refine to keep operating. This really is simply stuff man. Gold isn't created, it already exists. When digging it out of the ground becomes unprofitable and miners are forced to stop mining your golden necklace doesn't disappear. When mining Bitcoin becomes unprofitable it's a different story. Someone will have to be mining Bitcoin at a loss, pushing prices even lower, or the whole thing implodes. It's only a matter of time before miner profitability stops keeping up with energy/semi-conductor inflation and Bitcoiners find out it's not a store of value after all.

Virtualization_Freak

Anything wrong with Robinhood? I see it lets you send/recv BTC directly out of the app .

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Sell BTC at peaks and buy at bottom!

dweeegs

Cramer begging Saylor to buy BTC What a sight to behold He doesn't buy on the market so unfortunately Jim, your prayers will not be heard

Competitive-Net-1483

40% BTC, 50% ETH, the rest in alts, but honestly I wish I had more BTC

ArchiMode25

Even though it wasn't for long, BTC hit $15,xxx in 2022 and then $12x,xxx in 2025. Sure this cycle may not have been like others but they never are. A lot of people pin the "small" cycle solely on ALTs not going as crazy as 2017 and 2021. Which some of them still went crazy. So if you were aware enough, you could have gotten BTC at $15k - $20k and then sold at $100k - $125k and made a hell of a profit.

SpaceballsTheCritic

I believe it and have used in el Salvador. The utility is as a medium of exchange. The question is why? My fiat works very well for a medium of exchange. Store of value? Perhaps, long term trend looks good, but what is the real demand? I think we have hit the peak on BTC, yes it might go up in dollar terms, but, MMW, if we hit a real financial crisis it will drop, like a rock.

jup1t3rr

Bro ahahaha expecting to get downvoted for the only right answer is crazy, people need to actually realise you CAN'T tell the future......... I tried to tell EVERYONE he is crazy enough move to metals BTC and would dump, tried to tell everyone that he is that insane he could even try tariff china..... (US needs them alot more lol) no one listened, Even tried to use a wild explanation to get the point across telling people he could wake up and crash USD in a day cos ITS NEVER HAPPENED, something i thought he wasn't even capable of, but no wakes up and starts war with china instantly forcing his allies to ask the enemy for fucking deals? 1 million times worse...But at the end of the day it could have not happened at all