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PMmeuroneweirdtrick

I don't know shit about fuck but, if BTC drops to 75-80k then alts will bleed another 15-30%. We're crabbing in the 85k-90k range with no definitive direction. Is alt season delayed? Are we in a bear. Uncertain to me at this point so I think it's prudent to wait. Granted, I'm bag holding a couple of coins so that impacts my decision. Don't want to enter now and end up bag holding more. Rather hold and resume DCA if we go lower.

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Post is by: SevereYak29 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1psyym8/anyone_else_noticing_how_crypto_is_blending_into/ Not long ago, crypto felt like a space built by and for hardcore traders, early adopters, and risk-takers. But lately, I’ve noticed a quiet shift, it’s getting harder to argue that this tech is only for the niche crowd. Tokenized stocks are starting to appear on major platforms, giving people the option to trade real-world equities on-chain. Payment apps and cards now let you actually spend stables or BTC without five steps and a tutorial. Even CeFi lenders are leaning more into day-to-day usability. Then there are the brand plays. We’ve seen plenty of flashy sponsorships - F1 teams, UFC, stadiums. One of the more recent ones: the Australian Open partnering with Nехо. It’s the first time a Grand Slam has brought a crypto-native company into the sport. Tennis is a very different crowd than fight fans or race watchers and it  feels like a move toward trust and more broader audience, not just reach. All of it makes me think we’re in a strange middle phase. It’s no longer the Wild West, but it’s not fully mainstream either. The infrastructure is improving, the interfaces are cleaner, and the messaging is speaking to everyday users. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Bucser

You act like POW is not a "vote". Bitcoin can be changed as well if the majority wants to vote the same way by adopting a version of BTC that wants 42m BTC. or extend the runway and issuance beyond 2100. POS works the same way.

_JamesDooley

Back in 2011 I was a minor and lived in a 3rd world country. Absolutely no regrets here because I did read about BTC but knew immediately that there was no way for me to buy it. My most recent regret though is not buying BTC back in 2019 when a work colleague advised many of us to do so. BTC revolved around 3000$ back then.

ThickMikeyMoolah

Do I believe it? Yes, to an extent. Is it also a joke? Yes of course. What do you beleive happens after the final block has been mined? Which isn't the final block a fraction of a BTC?

ascension75000

It's realistic tbh. Nobody saw BTC falling below 15k after 2021 top

Complex-Photo-973

Yea the hardest part is to have the conviction to hold. People close positions in profit, it’s not wrong, but it is what it is. But if the money spent on BTC is not a big chunk, psychology will not come into picture.

hopelesslyhip

10 years is a long time for ETH but not for BTC. Thats my take Put 10% in eth as a gambling chip if you want some exposure

JasperNights

**I totally get your frustration, that's a seriously real and tangible feeling. We can’t deny that Bitcoin's volatility makes it a massive failure as a** ***short-term*** **hedge against inflation.** **You’re right on the S&P 500 correlation; right now, BTC is essentially trading as a high-beta risk asset. That means it follows what the S&P 500 does and moves up and down with the Fed's liquidity decisions, just like tech stocks.** **But... don't you think this leads us to a middle ground?** **1. The Long View:** Bitcoin's value as a hedge doesn't show up in two months, but over ten-year cycles. The fundamentals (absolute scarcity, decentralization) are what sustain the "antidote to fiat" narrative. **2. The Fed Issue:** People care about the Fed not because they love fiat, but because the Fed's decisions **control global liquidity.** As long as institutional money is driving the price, we will follow the liquidity generated by the Fed's moves. **Honestly, it feels like we are stuck between these two worlds right now.** **What do you think will be the catalyst that causes Bitcoin to decouple from the Fed's decisions and truly return to being an uncorrelated asset?**

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin is showing signs of a potential 'Santa rally,' with analysts targeting prices up to $120,000. BTC/USD recently hit $89,850, up 6.5% from a local low of $84,400. Key metrics, including short liquidations and derivatives structure, suggest bullish momentum. Analysts highlight $84,000 as a critical support level for sustained recovery. While some predict a rally, others warn of possible drawdowns to $70,000. The market setup and historical patterns indicate tactical upside potential, but risks remain. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Impressive-Dig-6678

That's why some people say BTC is only good for investing long term.

xarips

Saylor is the King of the Universe BTC will become the number 1 asset in the world and by the time it does he will own 10% of it

Dynamoks

Sounds like you will never be a investor in BTC lmao, you are surely joking if you think BTC will ever go below 50k, yet alone 70k.

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Smartlurchi

And OP should therefore also know that the BTC are not actually on this HDD.

DryMyBottom

rare elevator up for BTC this morning, is this the long awaited Santa rally?

DryMyBottom

BTC buying pressure growing nicely, reflected in some nice green candles this morning please dear burgers don't ruin our little Santa rally 🙏🏼

Melodic-Guarantee-52

Pretty cool concept. If I understand it correctly, you can buy Bitcoin now and pay it back in stages over time. Locking in BTC at current prices could mean holding more Bitcoin than you would ever be able to afford later as prices rise.

BstardSun

Awesome post! The scarcity is #1 and the portability is amazing to stackers, well at last this one. I need more fiat to buy BTC!! Thank you sir!!

Numerous_Big_3680

That's a solid diversified setup you got there man. Makes sense to have BTC as just one piece of the puzzle when you're already killing it with real estate and that dividend income The 5-6% allocation is pretty reasonable too - lets you capture the upside without going full degen mode

Aromatic_Union9246

Well to give you some background on me to make it have more of a context for you. I’m a 32m. I first got interested in “accounting/finance” from playing world of Warcraft growing up actually. First place I got exposed to markets and learning how to manipulate them to make you money without having to “grind” for more resources. I also played sports growing up (basketball, track, soccer). All 4 of those things instilled a pretty good work ethic into me from a young age. No matter what I was doing I always looked for a role-model. In basketball for me it was Kobe, track it was a guy named nick symmonds, soccer it was my cousin who was a pretty good d1 athlete, WoW it was my first guild leader. I tried to emulate those people and learn from them as much as I could and teach those around me what I learned from all those people. I learned pretty on that the harder you work, and the more questions you ask, snd the more you listen, the better you get and more opportunities get presented to you. And people more people will want to be around you. I won’t bore you with going through the rest of my life lol, but I just wanted to share that I’ve had that mindset in every activity I’ve ever done pretty much. Now in a professional context you can network organically. Say through your job by being friendly and asking people about their work. Doing good work for your bosses and making their lives easier, etc. but you also can attend networking events for your profession and intentionally seek out leaders in your field. I did ( and still do) a lot of both. In terms of researching for finance it’s such a broad topic and there’s so much you can go into depending on your goals. I spend large majority of my time looking for sectors that I think will do well from now until my retirement age. I’m 32 now and plan to retire by the time I’m 37-39 if all keeps going well. So I focus on sectors that are relatively dormant now that I think will have a shot of getting capital injection in the next 2-3 years. Then after I identify those I will deep dive on leaders in those sectors and do a full valuation of their financials (if they’re public) if they’re private I’ll call around and see if there’s any way to do private investment (usually there’s not, but I have had a couple workout through finance/accounting connections). But even the reason I’m in this sub is because of networking. In 2016 some of my fraternity brothers and I were on spring break and one of my buddies who was an electrical engineering major told me and the other guys I was with about bitcoin and ethereum. Taught us how to make wallets and thought we should know about it because we were all finance/accounting majors. I take what my friends say pretty seriously (especially my smart friends lol) and ended up taking the money I had saved up from my accounting internship jobs doing a deep dive on BTC and ETH and ended up investing basically all my savings except for $1k a couple weeks after we talked. So you also have to get lucky at some point. But if you work on building skills, working hard, networking and being a person other people want to be around it’s a lot easier to get “lucky”. If I hadn’t already been busting my ass in school learning about accounting/finance/econ. Working on building good friendships with smart people, open to learning. Even when someone told me about BTC I wouldn’t even know how to research it or understand what I was looking at was potentially life changing. So I know that was a mouthful but it is hard to point to 1 or 2 things. But just constantly be evaluating things and learning and don’t be afraid to have conviction when you think you’ve done your research and have stumbled across a good thing. When you have a good idea call your buddies and walk them through it or if you have no ideas start asking people that you meet whether it’s at work, through hobbies, people on Reddit etc, what they’re looking into and why. Never know what can come of it.

Masterkaixx

BTC 10%, 2 properties currently in rent, S&P 500 40%, ETFs 20%, and fixed term 30%.

Joey-Steel1917

Well, it's a limited asset. It will either cap out in value events or become utterly worthless. As BTC becomes more institutionalized I doubt we'll see it become worthless.

Environmental-Rip674

Bitcoin bros claim that BTC is an opposing currency to fiat money. They say it has intrinsic value and is digital gold, etc. But they can only hope for gains when fiat money inflates. Everything they do is valuing BTC in terms of its worth in those inflated currencies. BTC is basically just hopeium without any real value, driven by ignorance and incel investors.

PhemexMarket

That’s a smart question to ask \*before\* committing, not after. The tricky part isn’t the % itself — it’s whether you’d still stick to that % if BTC dropped 40–50% halfway through those 5 years. Be honest: how would you react if that happened while you’re still saving monthly?

HENNYMEISTER

Theoretically BTC wouldn’t crash, but historically we know BTC follows the stock market. If we have an AI bubble crash it’s gonna be terrible for BTC, it’s gonna “crash” with the stock market. It WILL recover though

Large-Victory-2910

He is not correct. The average rate of money printing until the C19 was 2.5% per year. Only after C19 did this 5% per year become normalized. S&P significantly overperformed the money printer and significantly overperformed almost all other assets. Of course the BTC overperformed S&P, but so did NVIDIA and Apple. S&P is still the safest bet for the average person, it is also the safest bet even for large Wall Street hedge funds.

Itslittlealexhorn

You're answering the question "what would be required to sustain the security of BTC without mining rewards?". The answer to that is high fees. But fees will only be high if there's enough demand for transactions. People gotta be willing to pay hundreds to thousands of (today's) dollars per transaction. That's just not very likely considering there are plenty of other ways to hold and transact BTC. Without demand the revenue from fees will only be able to sustain a fraction of today's mining, potentially making the network vulnerable to 51% attacks. It's one of the biggest unanswered questions of Bitcoin.

Key-Cardiologist9354

Straight up, this sounds like someone bought without real conviction. If money isn’t actually tight, why rush to lock in a loss? What’s the plan with the 90k after selling — sit in cash, or throw it into the stock market that could easily dump while BTC rips the moment everyone least expects it? That’s always been how this market works. Patience is a huge part of being a successful investor, and honestly I’m not seeing much of that mindset here. Why sell out of fear now instead of giving the thesis time to play out?

Key-Cardiologist9354

I bought 1 BTC right at the top around 125k, right before everything crashed. I honestly thought it would keep running, but clearly that didn’t happen. In past cycles, whenever BTC dumped it eventually ground its way back up, but this time just feels different. It’s been hovering around \~90k for a long while now with no real momentum, and it almost feels like this might be the new “normal” price. The crazy spikes we used to see in earlier cycles don’t seem to be happening anymore. With institutions heavily involved now, the market structure feels totally different than before. Because of that, I’m seriously questioning whether it makes sense to keep holding or just cut the loss and move the money into something like the S&P 500, which has performed way better this year and probably will over the long term. Anyone else in a similar spot or thinking about making that switch?

Key-Cardiologist9354

anyone hore actually acusing an arbitrage bot to trade BTC? Curious how it’s been performing during this bear market. I keep hearing that volatility is where the real opportunity is, but I’m honestly pretty clueless when it comes to setting this stuff up. I’d love to understand how people are configuring their arbitrage strategies, especially to capture moves like 1–2k swings in BTC with auto trading. Heard on a recent podcast that farming volatility and rolling the profits into your long-term BTC stack can outperform just pure HODL over time. Is that actually playing out for any of you, or is it way harder in practice than it sounds?

PlatinumTrillionaire

What are you talking about? BTC went from 16k to 126k your shit coins were just scams…

mcshorts81

I have bought since mid 2916 and to be honest, I know people say it a lot but the money I put into BTC is not money I need right now so I don't care when it dropped last week or if it drops tomorrow because I wouldn't have been selling. If people buy BTC and then have to look at the price every hour it's probably not for them

Darqwatch

Not if you're holding basicly anything else beside Bitcoin, did you really think he was talking about BTC??

Other-Emu9659

1 BTC would have to be worth $1m-$2m at least by 2040 (less than 15 years from now) just to match the block rewards of today. And that isn't factoring in the inflation that would need to occur for BTC to be at that price so it would actually need to be much more than that.

No_Hour6830

It's an interesting topic. The last crypto winter, BTC and high beta (risky) stocks fell pretty much in lockstep. But 2022 was a rare situation. Most stock bear markets are not accompanied by monetary tightening. It's usually the opposite. Low inflation/deflation, declining interest rates, monetary easing. So one could argue that the reason BTC fell wasn't purely due to sentiment but because liquidity dried up. So I'm curious to see what happens to BTC if we have a mild recession or maybe just an earnings recession with declining interest rates and loose monetary policy. In this situation, I could see the S&P falling 20-30% while BTC is mostly flat. In a deep recession, I imagine BTC would fall hard. Many people would probably raid their BTC stash before their retirement accounts. I could also see a situation where the S&P falls due to political instability in the US, and BTC rallies as a kinda safe haven from political unrest.

Legitimate-Key-3044

Don’t see it as a negative…. See it as a buying opportunity. Every single time in the history of BTC, it has recovered to a new ATH. ….past performance isn’t bla bla bla

ChocolateOk2361

This analysis is spot on. In 2020-21 bank interest was basically 0% so people had to take risks. Now with high rates, why bother with DeFi yields? Alts won't revive until rates drop and liquidity returns. Until then, only BTC and leverage-related coins survive.

DryMyBottom

everytime BTC looks week, some green candles happen

Quantum_Pineapple

It doesn’t that’s my point. People acting like stocks and BTC are the same or like stocks are somehow not tied to centralized corruption. BTC doesn’t have those downsides idk why you guys praise the false illusory upsides of the market in contrast like a victory lap for some reason.

BstardSun

Yes, and maybe learn how to properly use it? Store it? Where is it now? Every person who believes in BTC should run a node. I am working on having a node up and running by end of 1st quarter 2026.

BstardSun

Solid to the point. It sounds like this guy bought without the conviction. It sounds like money isn't an issue for him, so why take a loss? What will he do with the 90k? Hold it in Fiat, oh, throw it in a stock market that could collapse as BTC skyrockets. Patience is one part of a successful investor. I am not seeing much evidence of that here.

Other-Emu9659

BTC has gone through numerous forks in the past with the consensus network functioning as intended. It's not running on exactly the same untouched code since Satoshi. If miners are no longer profitable, and the network risks security failure or centralization, then there's an incentive to fork to a solution that enables them to be profitable and decentralized.

Other-Emu9659

Nobody mentioned this in the thread yet but a 51% attack by double spending from a bad actor probably isn't what would most likely happen if the security drops because there aren't enough profitable miners to mine it. A more likely scenario is that large state actors would be able to fund the remaining mining companies in large enough numbers to effectively centralize the chain by proxy. "We'll keep you afloat as long as you block certain transactions". I think the Maxis are going to have to have some tough discussions around how to handle the future of the chain because eventually this will become inevitable, and relatively soon (2-3 more cycles if monetary inflation doesn't keep up). I think if BTC wants to keep its decentralized network a perpetual small block subsidy prevents the security budget from ever collapsing enough that miners would fall to state actors, or transaction fees get so high that the chain becomes practically unusable for most. But it would slowly inflate the supply. I think this is the best option so far, as long as the inflation is reasonable enough that it doesn't completely negate the scarcity narrative of the coin. We can average the rate of lost coins and use that as a metric baseline for the inflation rate. I think the average joe wouldn't care enough to sway them for/against the coin, and the maxis are not really going to have a choice soon because there aren't any serious alternatives that maintain the value of it while making the coin practically usable and secure. Although I'm open to other ideas.

Inevitable_Pin7755

Yeah I agree with this. Most people don’t lose money because BTC is bad, they lose money because they never decided what kind of holder they are. They buy saying long term, then panic like a short term trader when price drops. If you’re truly long term, timing barely matters and volatility is just noise. If you’re trading cycles or shorter swings, then you need a plan and accept you might be wrong. Mixing the two mindsets is what usually causes people to sell at the worst time.

Grooveman07

If they talk about max pain with BTC, it's over. Institutions now control the asset

Amphibious333

You should hold Bitcoin for at least 4 years, because this is the cycle number. Not even a single person, who held BTC for 4 or more years, lost any money. Bitcoin is a long-term game and you should avoid it if you can't handle bear markets.

Amimir1992

If you are not one of those who likes to be underwater for months or even years. BTC is not for you. I recommend that you sell all your bitcoin before you regret it.

WickedDeity

You are giving up after two months? WTF? Why did you buy it to begin with? You don't already own stocks? You just had 125,000 laying around and decided to invest all the sudden in BTC at an ATH and not in for at least four years? That means you did zero research. I am only asking questions because nothing in this post makes much sense.

Inevitable_Pin7755

Honestly this sounds less like a Bitcoin question and more like a psychology one. Ask yourself this: if you didn’t already own 1 BTC, would you buy it today at 90k? If the answer is yes, selling now just to “cut losses” doesn’t really make sense. If the answer is no and you genuinely don’t believe in the long term thesis anymore, then holding it just because you’re down isn’t logical either. Buying at ATH hurts, but price action going sideways for months isn’t new for BTC. It’s done this multiple times in past cycles and every time people convinced themselves “this time is different”. Sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn’t, but sideways doesn’t mean dead. Also be careful comparing BTC to the S&P short term. They serve different purposes. If you’re losing sleep over volatility, moving part of it into something you’re more comfortable holding might be the right move mentally, even if it’s not the mathematically perfect play. The worst decision is usually an emotional all in or all out move. If you’re unsure, a partial de risk might give you peace of mind without locking in the full loss. No one can call the bottom or the top. What matters is whether your original reason for buying still holds. If it doesn’t, that’s your answer. Hold it for next 10 years who cares about the price now

Icy_Annual_9954

I would buy a small company, the remaining part would be in BTC

LegitimateDream4942

"It won't affect BTC because BTC is magical and the solution to all the world's problems, including me being broke" - Reddit

gponter79

Pay mortgage off. Buy a few BTC, get wife a car. Then not waste the rest.

veryparcel

He holds SMST and uses that to buy more BTC.

CryptoPulsee

The real question isn't what to buy, but how to custody it. If you suddenly had $1M in BTC, would you trust your current multi-sig setup, or would that change your entire security model ? 🤔🤔

fairlyaveragetrader

That was a 3% move. If you guys are actually trading this, The 94,000 zone has to be taken out, it probably will be before we resume the next downtrend, you have profit targets around 98 to 102 with a stop and reverse long above a 106-108k weekly close Currently, like for the past month or so the trade has been shorting $80,000 puts and just letting them burn up. Reasonably safe trade since you immediately know where you're wrong, becomes a dangerous trade if we do close up around 100K in the next 8 weeks. That area is going to have a lot of Sellers and most likely set up for the next leg down if we are going to continue the cycle. 69k is the next Target, maybe March or april? You know what's so crazy about all this though, if it does play out like that, it's so incredibly bullish for 2029. Everyone is going to get on board buying their 30 to $40,000 BTC pretty much knowing 200k is going to happen by 2029. So you have this 5 to 6X potential

Froz3n_Cornchip

I’d buy 1 BTC, that’s the goal for most right, I would buy the status of being a whole coiner and obviously just fuckn HODL it. The rest I’d use towards a new house, because that’s the priority right.

CryptoPulsee

The classic 'Buy the dip' that keeps on dipping. Still, 1 BTC = 1 BTC 😂👏🏻

Gold-Succotash-9217

So, whatever it is, it gets big enough to replace BTC as another useless pseudo currency owned by people that just sit on it and can't spend it on stores for groceries? I also can buy oil or gold and let it sit around but at least that has useful value. It's tangible. All this fake Pokémon trading card tokens are silly. My chuckecheese tokens from the 80s aren't something I can spend anymore either.

Gold-Succotash-9217

Dollar replaced gold. When the dollar collapses BTC will likely also collapse but it could rebound while the dollar can't. But also you'd need access to the internet and systems and wallets etc. All things more likely to collapse and be useless as BTC self destructs. Mining becomes cost prohibitive so the miners are just people that need to spend to keep their asset alive which will deplete the asset value over time as less people find usefulness in it and it depletes to 0 so people don't spend good money after bad.

stevie1484

Yep!  I felt it was dangerous to go over 30% of portfolio for anything but I let it run in ‘21 beyond 50%which meant I got hit hard in ‘22 and didn’t have almost anything to buy the dip.  This summer I brought it down and have a lot more stable stuff, indexes and Berkshire and preferred shares from Strategy, and also have enough BTC. I think the non-btc will underperform on average but still go up, gives me a bit more stability.  Hopefully no more 70% drops in a year 😆🤞 

moviemaker2

Keeping your BTC in your ow. Wallet is the very definition of self custody.

ourcryptotalk

It feels like an eternity when $BTC was at $125,000..... Oh, the good ol' days.

JayPolar91

5% in BTC and physical gold 20% into rental properties and 50% into dividend paying ETF's and the other 20% would go to buying a house and whatever else I need.

grayjacanda

Neither the 4 year halving cycle nor the Fed's monetary policy provide some perfect prediction of BTC price moves, though both are correlated Today we have the former saying 'we have much bear market yet to go' while the latter predicts at least a modest rally from here So, as usual, no one knows for sure Please place your bets, or just HODL, or DCA, according to your preferred mode of interaction

HSuke

Only 1 BTC will be mined in the last 100 years after 2040. If you're alive by 2040, Bitcoin will already be feeling the **exponential** effects of the halvings.

HSuke

What most people don't realize is that the block subsidy will by halved so much by 2040 that the last 25 halvings (the 100 years between 2040 and 2140) won't even matter. **Only 1 BTC will be mined in the last 100 years.** If you overlay this cycle's block subsidy chart over the previous cycle's, this is the first halving cycle where the block subsidy wasn't multiples higher than the previous cycle's (even before adjusting for inflation). I believe we're already past peak security budget, and it'll just keep declining faster and faster every cycle until the block reward is mostly transaction fees.

randallmauel

Im buying small amounts of AVAX and Sol. Ive got all the ETH Im planning on buying. Maybe a little more BTC

Secret_Operative

Still hodl almost all of it. Nothing outward that shows BTC love because I'm not an idiot.

TipThin626

¿A compartir ese dato o a comprar BTC? jajaja

Berns429

I disagree, if you posted Jack Dorsey buying BTC back in like 2011-2015 sure it’s “long term conviction” but he’s a billionaire, he could give a shit what it does in 2022 because it’s just another asset in his portfolio, he’s not just some average dude who scored big by buying in the early days.

stevie1484

Same, was into fire and BTC makes it better.  Now I keep it to x% of portfolio, which unfortunately means I’m selling sometimes, but then I get to buy dips too

EarningsPal

All it will take is BTC to rally to $250,000 and all the negative talk about Microstrategy will turn into genius talk.

GreenStretch

Wow, hadn't even noticed that recent growth. If hypothetically, I'd had any, it might have been turned into BTC a while ago.

GreenStretch

Ugh, practically out of *crypto*, sold everything but 25% of my ETH. Still have the BTC, though.

riscten

>Each note contains a 999 silver physical btc embedded in the banknote. What does that even mean? Is there... silver in the note? Where's the BTC? What is this?!!?

Visual_Building_1666

I had about 50 grand in my Roth IRAs to buy about 14 coins worth at 3500. But I needed a way to safely store them, that would be easy, and keep them growing in my Roth. I had real conviction that it would soon recover and get even past 20,000. I asked a friendly acquaintance who was a computer programmer to look into it for me, and said I would even pay him for his time to find me a solution. After 2 weeks, he basically gave up saying he doesn't know how to do it or if it can even be done. So, I gave up too. It wasn't until it climbed all the way back to 20 grand, that I looked into it again...and found GBTC/Greyscale. Literally putting ONE LETTER, the letter G before BTC/bitcoin was all I needed to do! Getting in at 3 and getting in at 20 is A LOT different! I'm not complaining...my friends and family STILL aren't in...but 20 to 120 is 6x my money, while 3 to 120 is 40x!!

Tall-Assignment-6227

Altcoins didn’t historically rally because of “new retail buyers.” They rallied because of capital rotation. BTC runs first, then ETH, then profits flow outward as risk appetite increases. Retail arrives late — always has. Saying there’s “no fresh capital” ignores reality. Capital is entering crypto — it’s just concentrated at the top right now. Liquidity doesn’t disappear; it parks, waits, then rotates. That’s how every cycle works. The ownership argument is also a mismatch. Alt seasons were never driven by enforceable rights or equity-like cash flows. They were driven by reflexivity, narrative momentum, and volatility seeking. If ownership were required, memecoins would never have outperformed — yet they do, every cycle. ETH being a “utility token” isn’t a weakness. Base layers aren’t equities. Oil doesn’t give voting rights either — yet it underpins entire economies. L2s don’t weaken ETH; they feed it by scaling demand. This reads less like a structural critique and more like someone who’s tired of waiting and decided the game must be broken because it hasn’t paid out yet. Cycles don’t end because people stop believing. They end because liquidity exhausts — and we’re nowhere near that.

gjp23

Lame. My key investments are VOO and BTC. I'll continue to stack for 30 years on both

itsaworry

Not too many people are going to forget they set up a BTC miner when it was 10 cents and forget about it as price goes through $10 then $100 to a $1000 . . . .something a bit odd about this post .

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitwise's Chief Investment Officer, Matt Hougan, predicts Bitcoin (BTC) will reach new all-time highs in 2026 despite current market weakness. He attributes this to diminishing influence of Bitcoin's four-year cycles, falling interest rates, reduced leverage, and accelerating institutional adoption. The approval of spot Bitcoin ETFs and pro-crypto regulatory shifts are expected to attract institutional capital. Additionally, Bitcoin's volatility is declining, and its correlation with traditional stocks is expected to weaken, making it a more stable and attractive investment. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

who_am_i_to_say_so

EXACTLY. I swear that's what BTC was intended to be, anonymous, before all this "Know your customer" or "KYC" bullshit.

62DoubleCab

Well despite that fact it still did better than BTC this year. BTW I own BTC but this year sucked. I will continue to own it though.

Academic_Attorney996

Their weak currency is worthless compare to BTC. Seem like you don't do enough research on Bitcoin. Get back the step 1, son: Study Bitcoin.

AudiieVerbum

I got out after the '18 crash, went from $20k to $9k almost overnight. I will never doubt again. Also, back in college in '13, I bought .25BTC for like $200, and immediately spent it on the good lsd from the netherlands. Would be tens of thousands by now lol.

NOneHOne

Real Estate is nothing more than a means of diversification of your portfolio. Most people with something to lose are smart enough not to put all of their eggs in one basket. We've been buying BTC pretty regular for the past ten years and will continue to so - especially the next 6-12 months. But there's no way in hell I'm going to put my life savings 100% in any single investment, especially since I'm almost 50 and plan to be fully retired by 2030.

silentapexresearch

BTC holding ~$88K even as ETF flows whipsaw this week — feels like rotation more than new capital. Anyone else watching flows more than price today?

cryptoraffles-app

Its for my BTC raffles page.

cryptoraffles-app

I wasn’t talking about that with 1 dollar you can buy a ticket in my btc raffles page. And maybe win a lot of BTC.

LegitimateDream4942

Lol you are dreaming. Try to do the transaction. You'll realize that nobody in Thailand accepts BTC. They want to take payment in baht.

dividedsky1997

I used this as the time to swap alts at a loss into BTC. Not going back to the alts, will just keep the BTC. But will happily harvest the loss against my stock gains.

BetterThanOP

Wtf is that Y axis? And look at global liquidity when BTC crashed nearly 80% in 2021. Didn't budge.

LegitimateDream4942

What you said is totally untrue. Why can't they sell Apple or TSLA to buy a house...?? Let's play this BTC thing out: I have 2 BTC. It's worth $200,000USD. I found a house I want to buy in Thailand, it costs $200,000USD and I need to pay cash. I can't get a loan since I have no income and I'm not local. How do I turn that 2 BTC into $200,000USD? I'd have to sell it in Thailand right? Because if I sell it in USA, I can't take that much cash out of the country, and I cannot import that much cash into Thailand without declaring it which will trigger all types of shit. So you tell me, how the hell do I "buy a house in another country with BTC". Tell me how BTC is superior to fiat at this point, in this house buying transaction.

JasperNights

Absolutely right. Anyone who thinks BTC movement is determined by one indicator or one piece of news misunderstands the complexity of the market. Bitcoin moves under the influence of a complex mix of factors: Macro Factors: Fed decisions, interest rates, inflation, and liquidity injections/withdrawals. Market Structure: Institutional flows (Inflows/Outflows), Liquidity, and Volume. On-Chain Data: Whale movements, and the supply held by Long-Term Holders. Regulatory Landscape: ETF news and new legislation. The crucial question is: What are the top three indicators (a mix of macro and micro factors) traders should focus on right now to avoid fixating on a single data point?

b1mm3rl1f3

"Pantera Capital’s Dan Morehead says $BTC is still a single-digit share of global wealth and could climb to $750K in 4–5 years."

ClayFPV

yeah maybe. I don't even hold alts, silver has been in a downtrend since 2011. until it broke 50 bucks. chart looks the same as monero. nothing delusional with just looking at a chart bro. Also just pointing out that when a certain coin or whatever, is in a downtred against BTC is exactly just cherry picking. it means nothing, because anything is in a downtrend against an asset that made 3000%. gold is down against btc too I guess, but not within the last year, because gold almost doubled and btc is lower than a year ago. also trends do break. and if you look at the downtrend monero was in from 2018 you would see that it is attempting to break out of this too. should mean something when a trend held for 7 years and now it is doing something else. if you can't look at charts objectively you are also only shilling your beloved btc. you write about using reason to "lead" somebody to a conclusion.. sounds to me that you are just a control freak trying to force your opinion on others.

MinimalGravitas

Bitcoin rising in price doesn't help here, yes on the one hand it increases the revenue of miners, but at the same time it increases the potential value of a 51% attack to an attacker. If you think about it, as each halvening reduces the amount of BTC going to miners but does not reduce the total amount of BTC, increasing the price per BTC will always increase the reward to an attacker faster than it increases the security budget. Said a different way, if the cost to attack the network is now $40B (just as an example) and the marketcap is $1.8T, then next halvening in order to keep the money going to miners constant we need to double the price of BTC. The cost to attack the network then remains $40B, but the marketcap would now be $3.6T, so the risk to reward ratio of an attacker has become twice as enticing!

LegitimateDream4942

Institutions are buying BTC. But they are also buying bonds, SP500, gold, etc. They have huge investment accounts that need to be managed. Institutions buy because they have extra capital. They have extra capital because the economy is good. They have extra capital because their internal growth has topped (ie. they have nowhere to invest it into their own company). BTC price increase is driven by overall economic growth.

LegitimateDream4942

BTC is not a hedge against inflation. People need to stop thinking that. My BTC fucking deflated 25% during last year. It was suppose to \*beat\* inflation. Instead, prices grew over 30% faster than my BTC. Low interest rates = better for economy = SP500 goes up = Gold goes up. BTC price is driven by success of economy. It's the last thing on the list to go up in price. What BTC is to most people is "hope". It works, but it has nothing to do with interest rates or "fuck fiat" mentality. If people hate government and fiat so much, why the fuck do they care about the Fed.