BTC

Disraelo2

ETF that is backing based on BTC or crypto.

TaimourWrites

Strategy now holds 766,970 BTC: 3.65% of total supply. Just casually buying another 4,871 at $67.7K while everyone panics about Iran. At some point, we need to talk about what it means when a single corporate entity controls almost 4% of a supposedly decentralized monetary network. That tension between Bitcoin's cypherpunk origins and its institutional capture is what I spent some time writing about in a thriller. The question isn't whether institutions adopt Bitcoin. It's whether Bitcoin survives the adoption. For now, though: if you're stressed about the $68K range, zoom out. Strategy isn't buying at these levels because they're worried about Tuesday night deadlines. (*The Day Satoshi Returned* — on Amazon if anyone's curious.)

FromThePits

Yes, my point is that you can create real wealth with relatively little input... but it will take a long time to accumulate. So saving some satoshis correctly for your great great grandchildren, can potentially make an enormous impact in the next century. Everybody else will have lost their family share of BTC long before this. That is almost guaranteed. All of BTC will become institutionalized in this century, one way or the other. Only 2.5 million out of 20 mined, is still trading on public exchanges today.

That-Comparison-3631

BTC; HBAR; LINK; ICP; XDC; KAS. Bonus: DOVU (Super low-cap); OGY (Ultra low-cap).

Ok_Wear7792

Al principio pensé que lo de la supuesta filtración de Coinbase era falso, pero harrerlaw.org era legítimo. Me tomó como 5 minutos. En fin, espero que el BTC se recupere, jaja

autoeroticassfxation

For it to be negative sum, all the Bitcoin would have to be lost and more. And the fees go to the miners. And everyone would have to be negative on BTC. You're not considering all the trades and movements of money that Bitcoin has facilitated.

aihwao

I'd recommend ETH. That's it. Don't gamble. BTC will never be the global currentcy its supporters hope it will be. Avoid all shitcoins and alts. I'd also say that most crypto is gambling. Due to ETFs and financial instruments crypto is broadly now tied to financial markets, so don't expect it to be some sort of hedge against the markets.

XXsforEyes

Read the BTC White paper - 15 min read. Narratives have evolved since then but it’s your core understanding. Next, “The Bitcoin Standard” really all you need if you really get it. Then, “Broken Money” - reinforces the previous two. There ARE some good podcasts and channels out there. The Coin Bureau is fairly honest advice and their scattered focus on BTC, alts, macro factors and financial report breakdowns are good for understanding the whole financial landscape in which BTC resides. Coin Stories podcast is pretty good but they get political in ways that depart from useful. For a slurry of news articles and clickable links of varying quality use the CryptoNews aggregator (app store). Plenty of what NOT to pay attention to as well. Macro factors embedded across all of the above are the most convincing combined facts you can use to understand the why. Final words: The Hardest Money always wins… guess which money that is?

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

Don’t tell that to his shareholders! They keep talking about BTC yield.

Admirable_Piccolo_18

Bitcoin will also die. If BTC die, what else on the table?

TheRadishBros

Even if you’re right in the short term, this is a horrendous way to maximise BTC holdings over the long term.

highschoolhero24

I also think we should have an estimate of how many Bitcoin are lost and will never be recovered. I would hazard to guess that at least 5% of BTC mined are gone forever.

KCConnor

Wait until HVAC gets smart and starts using BTC miners for heating elements rather than just throwing away kilowatt-hours that could be compute cycles.

KCConnor

I expect $58K by June 7th or 8th. And I don't see BTC breaking that trend line in the summer, which is typically "sell in May and go away" season. So I expect sub-$50K by September. There's also BIP-110 and the child exploitation content issue, and a looming soft fork over it. If that hits normie news in August before the deadline, it'll drive price lower too. Hold your powder.

InvestAISavvy

The money supply number is wild but the thing I keep watching is BTC dominance. It's at 58.3% right now. When macro fear spikes, money doesn't leave crypto entirely. It rotates into BTC and sits there. That's basically the same flight-to-quality behavior you see in traditional markets when people dump equities for treasuries. Social engagement on BTC is up 137% over the last 3 months compared to the broader crypto market. Sentiment is running 76% bullish. And Strategy just bought another $330M last week while the price is sitting 45% below its October high. The institutions aren't waiting for the inflation thesis to play out. They're front-running it. The real tell is going to be Friday's CPI print. First one that captures the oil spike. If that number comes in hot, the "BTC as inflation hedge" narrative goes from theoretical to urgent pretty fast.

ElanInsights

I see your point about nto betting all your money... on anything. The first chart represents a starting bet of just 5% of the portolio. I'm willing to make that bet (in fact, more) with my portfolio based on where I believe BTC is going. Any my belief isn't based on BTC as a speculative asset, but as a better store of value (can't be degraded), unit of account (public ledger, trustless) and medium of exchange (one world currency that isn't "managed" by governments, with transactions by mobile phone). That's the dream - but even half-way there will be amazing for humanity.

tocinoman

Even better for us is all of those people who keep posting about having locked themselves out of their BTC by losing a flash drive, losing their pass phrase, etc. We'll never hit 21 million in circulation because you can't reprint what has been lost forever.

ElanInsights

I imagine you will, or if not, then half a coin may well represent something enormous. For example, if total market cap of all 21 million Bitcoin gows to 25% of today's Treasuries\~ that's $364,000 per coin or a 5.3× growth. If the same 21M BTC equalled 50% of Treasuries, then that's \~$729,000, per coin \~10.6× gain. Will BTC take that big a bite out of treasuries? Probably not, but it doesn't have to. It will take it from Treasuries, the NYSE, gold, etc.

Grancino

BTC - store of value in insecure times.

ConcernedPen15

Not true for IBIT though since BTC was over 100k when it launched. I bet most IBIT holders are under water right now.

ElanInsights

Yes and that's the point of the chart - BTC starts out at only 5%

aintdatsumish

Price does not matter when you believe in BTC and believe that your Fiat life is being liquidated!! In the Fiat world you are not at the table, you are on the menu!

mel2000

TBF, in order to punish cryptobros appropriately for supporting him, BTC needs to go below its lowest point under Biden since he did all the heavy lifting during its rise, only for the bros to trade all that for Trump.

robin_liquidium

based on 4 year cycle theory, we should see lows end of this year and then the next 3 years should look better. nfa of course. also if you need liquidity against your btc in the meantime, you can always borrow against it instead of selling (multiple options such as firefish for custodial loans or sats terminal or liquidium for non-custodial loans against native BTC)

21drummaboi

This. I've been in BTC since 2017... In 2018 When BTC dropped from $20k to $3k everyone said BTC was dead... wish I had bought more. When BTC dropped from $70k to around $15k around 2022 everyone said BTC was dead... wish I had bought more. Now that BTC has dropped from $120k to ~63k, people are saying BTC is dead...

Badmoodsbear

Well this iust an outright lie. On 4/7/21, BTC traded between 55k and 59k. Even taking the low of 55k and the high today of 69k, you're looking at a gain of 14k or 25.5% over 5 years. Just a LITTLE less than 300% lol

Revelati123

Since the war BTC has been holding up better than pretty much anything else in my port. A lot comes down to, do you think the US dollar is being well managed and is a good long term store of value? Considering who is in charge of that, Im not selling my BTC any time soon lol.

exc24_com

If it’s family money, I’d avoid hype completely. BTC/ETH, long-term, and focus on not losing value on fees, spreads, and bad execution that’s where most beginners get hit.

Vetrol_

I should'nt have said cash tbh. It's money on an exchange ready to DCA once BTC drops below 60k or shows signs that the bottom is already in

SeriousSamalt2

>Proceeds from the note are earmarked for upstream acquisitions and expanding Cango’s push into computing infrastructure, part of a broader pivot beyond bitcoin mining. I was wondering how they got so much interest but I keep forgetting that BTC mining companies can also provide computing for AI development.

supercali45

Those bros have $1k in BTC

mrjune2040

Lol, if BTC is at a billion, gas is at 2k 😂

umirinbrah29

Yeah most of them function as higher vol/beta than the underlying so in this market I've been royally screwed, especially due to MSTRs mNAV compression haha. Huge loss compared to if I kept my spot BTC but hoping the next bull market I should re-coup and potentially outperform. It's all within a tax free ISA, which was my initial reason for selling my spot BTC last year.

TheresNoSecondBest

>it's very easy to full port BTC with a $50k or $10k portfolio, and much less likely when you have a more significant portfolio. Not really, mate. It all goes down to the knowledge. No matter how much money you're risking if it's **all you have**.

ColonelForbin374

I saw the ad for it on Facebook awhile back. It was advertised “Limited-time OKX offer: New OKX users can earn up to $400 BTC. Verify, trade $200, deposit $10k+. 30-day hold.” (Exact words) You must’ve found a loophole or something lol because those free btc offers are the same on every exchange.

siorge

many crypto bros voted for him because he would push BTC to $1M... smh

VivaLaBiome

It does matter because the larger the portfolio, the more precedence conviction has. IE, it's very easy to full port BTC with a $50k or $10k portfolio, and much less likely when you have a more significant portfolio.

FancyGlory2124

BTC is not compatible with calculators but depending on the model you are using, it is not out of the question that future updates will make using Bitcoin on a calculator possible. Thank you for contacting Bitcoin customer support

Hefty-Conflict6257

Volatility is the elephant in the room for sure. When a 10% swing can happen in a day, nobody wants to be the person who bought a coffee with BTC that'd be worth a Lambo next week. It turns every transaction into a speculation event rather than a simple exchange. I track whale movements and liquidation data here - [Coinlobster](https://coinlobster.com/crypto), pretty closely to get a read on where volatility might be heading. Helps a bit with the anxiety

snamepchag5

The supply is limited, if there is a continuous strong adoption, the BTC price will eventually go up.

devCheckingIn

Rather significant ETF inflows for BTC yesterday. That probably explains the pump.

Senior_Intern8786

Same. When you criticize BTC or point out that BTC is down by 50% then game over.

pop-1988

This is just a rant complaining that using a payment system for payments doesn't support investment expectations. The problem isn't using Monero for payments. The problem is investment expectations. As your analysis implies, payment usage (the "circular" thing, the buy-spend-sell cycle) works the same whatever the exchange price is Conclusion: if there's not enough exchange liquidity to support the price, there will be when the price falls Your "early Monero miner" isn't really sitting on millions. He's sitting on whatever liquidity value there is in the DEX swap exchanges, probably thousands > So that merchant takes your XMR and immediately dumps it straight onto a CEX to get USD But he can't do this "straight". He has to swap it on a DEX for BTC, and dump the BTC on an exchange. Same result, but inconvenient details

Lavayo

BTC keeps running except every since participant stops. I suppose you mean value in fiat will go to 0. See you in $2029. What do you mean by "crypto" though? Even you will concede that for the very least stable coins are here to stay, this is also "crypto". Of course 99.9% of coins will die, but we are not talking about them here.

pop-1988

When GDAX had zero fee for maker transactions, and zero BTC withdrawal fees. This continued even after it was renamed Coinbase Pro, but not for long

Ok_Golf_6467

BTC, ETH, and maybe SOL. Would end the convo after that 😂

Even_Tune_5587

The volatility is real, BTC reclaimed $70k and got rejected almost immediately, which feels like a classic trap. Instead of guessing which direction this breaks, I’ve been watching the aggregated order book across exchanges. Right now, there’s a heavy sell wall cluster sitting between $68,800 and $69,600 from major players. Combined with a negative gamma setup below $68k, it paints a pretty clear picture of where the real resistance is. Institutions are buying the dip, but the fragile market structure means even small orders can cause exaggerated moves right now. I pulled this data from [Coinlobster](https://coinlobster.com/crypto) free combined orderbook and liquidation feed, it helps cut through the noise when everyone’s just guessing. Might be worth a look if you want to see what the whales are actually doing instead of what they’re saying

VastPresence2412

BTC all the way.

MillionMinerCOM

DCA gang doesn't care about tops or bottoms, just keeps stacking. you'll look back at 0.5 BTC like it was free real estate

cyger

Music to my ears, it appears we have bottomed. Yes most alts are toast, but Bitcoin will bounce like you wouldn't believe. Why: because high oil prices for too long will lead us towards money printing. That plus the clarity act is super positive for BTC.

Suspicious_Act4982

Start with BTC or ETH. Long track record, deep liquidity, most infrastructure built around them. Size your position so a 30% dip doesn't make you panic sell, because it will dip. Once you're actually holding, you'll start discovering ways to use your crypto without selling it at platforms like nexo. That's where it gets interesting long term.

Even_Sugar6852

Came across a miner, viabtc.co.uk; signed up, deposited 0.001 BTC, and then, just for a prank, withdrew 0.01 BTC on the site. And it worked. Nobody noticed.

MillionMinerCOM

saw $100 BTC in 2013 and thought 'eh too expensive.' don't worry I beat myself up about it daily

StockStyle3784

If you want to make some money I would suggest you wait until later this year (Q2 - Q3) when probably the bottom will be in for crypto before the next bullrun. If you are a beginner try only spot, if you are confident and have an appetite for risk try futures but never go more than 5x. I am for some time in this field and I have lost thousands of euro. Also won but still I haven't covered my losses yet. Unless you are crazy lucky or have crazy patience, most likely you will lose otherwise. Stick only with BTC, ETH and SOL (debatable). Hope it helped.

Odd_Pen_1041

As it should be, im currently not holding any BTC, im mainly focused on Cardano and Midnight project but defenitely BTC is the pops.

gjp23

VOO and BTC are really my only 2 holdings

SHA256-Ghost

The problem many of you do not realize is that the energy price will grow in the future. It does not matter whether it is a clean energy. Market dictates the price of BTC based on supply / demand rule, not based on energy prices. And so it is not impossible that no mining will be profitable. Even if you have your own solar energy, it would be more profitable if you sold the energy instead of using it for mining. There is a solution for the problem, which is lowering the difficulty, but that comes with a risk.

LiquidityCompass

If you were my family I’d honestly keep it simple… some broad ETF + a bit of BTC and just leave it alone. And seriously, avoid day trading at all costs. Most people just end up losing everything doing that. Biggest thing is to start learning first — understanding what you’re investing in matters way more than trying to be early or clever. Are you looking more for steady growth or higher risk/higher upside?

PirateHunterZoro252

1) River -they have a Bitcoin only exchange -cash generates 3% interest & converts to BTC -they have proof of reserves 2) IBIT -they use coinbase as their middleman -blackrock gave them an ultimatum of 12 to deposit their coins on-chain after there was speculation of paper Bitcoin around September 2024 -biggest asset manager, if private equity were to collapse black rock would definitely survive over the smaller private equity firms such as blue owl

ChangeNOW_Community

market timing rarely works like that. If you’re confident in BTC long-term, DCA or just buy and HODL - trying to outsmart the dip usually costs more than it saves

Mission-Ant-9258

I can guarantee it's not going to zero because I have a limit order for 1 BTC at 1 USD. Some no-name financial advisor who doesn't understand the firsts thing about computers and/or cryptography calling bitcoin a bubble just because he didn't bought it in 2011 is just old at this point. GTFOH.

ChangeNOW_Community

Yeah, feels like BTC’s in that weird spot - no one fully trusts it, but no one’s ready to ditch it either. Just sitting there, surviving the chaos, which honestly says a lot

Winnepegchick

BTC to the the moon! It rocks, always will, that is why I always borrow against it, cos I can do it easily on Nexо app.

Enrrabador

Do it! All in! I want to buy BTC at 35k so let me know when yoj do it!

MillionMinerCOM

congrats you now own more BTC than 90% of the world will ever touch

Reprisement

Yes it's the world reserve currency so if the dollar collapses the entire fiat currency system will too, meaning you won't be able to trade your internet money for anything. So the best use case for BTC will also make it redundant.

That-Comparison-3631

https://preview.redd.it/i36i6v12eqtg1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0229b3b7aee440a6b69871d618099d8423d58d5f My allocations. 0% BTC or ETH 😅

mitchell2820

60% stocks, 40% crypto. Of which is: 55% BTC, 15% ETH, 15% XRP 10% Chainlink and 5% SUI I bought quite a lot last year in the bullmarket so everything is in the red rn making the %;s a bit off. Especially chainlink I lost over 40% value.... Im hodling now for the next years and hope profits will come

Vetrol_

35% allocation in BTC. 65% in cash, anticipating more downside

TheresNoSecondBest

Already the case, mate. [The new (after 2024 halving) figures are roughly equivalent to 450 BTC per day, and an annual inflation rate of 0.85%. According to a new report from Glassnode, these metrics place the network’s supply issuance rate decisively below that of gold’s 2.3%—a historically significant asset to which Bitcoin is frequently compared.](https://decrypt.co/227940/bitcoins-inflation-rate-is-now-lower-than-gold-report)

Reprisement

Yeah and you use dollars to measure the value of BTC so if the dollar collapsed then what will you do with your BTC?

Fit-Poet6736

buy, forget, and earn passively on it (nexo gives 6.5% interest for BTC and 10% for stables)

UpbeatFix7299

How many people pay with BTC though? You can throw a "btc accepted here" sticker on your window. But if no one pays with it, so what?

Lonely_Bumblebee8934

When you bought how long was you expecting to hold for? How long have you been in BTC?

mashem

Wouldn't influencing increased activity benefit miners and those that get a % of transaction fees? Like the Trump-owned American Mining ($BTC), his 60% ownership of Wolf Liberty Financial ($WLFI), his % on transactions ($USD1 stablecoin), his holdings of $ETH, then $TRUMP and $MELANIA?

PuzzleheadedBell4057

20% of total portfolio. 5% ea. BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP. Planning on adding less than 1% ea KITE and TAO in May

evandollardon

I put the position somewhere it's working while you hold it. Earning yield or having a credit line available through a service like Nexo means the BTC isn't just sitting there, bleeding you emotionally.

oki_sauce

Im going to respond to you a bit jumbled because I cant see a full breakdown of your post while im typing for some reason. 50 hours a week is a lot. Dont burn yourself out. Your mental health will take a decline. As you already said, you come home and do nothing after work. That's fine, but over time, other things will be neglected. You're still young, so your appetite for risk makes more sense. Every person in this sub is going to tell you BTC only and for good reason. It saves you a lot of headache. Just know, the further down the marketcap list, the greater your risk. I'd keep at least 70% in BTC and dont let yourself get FOMO while shitcoins pump 1000% in 2 days. There is a reason BTC is at the top and they are not. Asking about profit taking is asking us what brand of crystal ball were using. Hold for 4 years, learn about Bitcoin. Decide if you want to sell some. The more you learn, your conviction will grow. If you are going to need a car, you should not invest that money. Do not invest what you cant afford to lose. Invest in yourself. Save for that car, dont burn yourself out. I get your young, and you think you can work 50 hours back to back (maybe you can for a long time) but I'm sure it'll catch up to you in some way. Dont keep that much cash in your room. Get a HYSA if you dont have one because you're just screwing yourself. I assume youre living with family. Ride it out. Dont be in a hurry to move out just to move back in. People dont judge you as much as you might think. I am making assumptions about your feelings, but many young people feel this way. They will probably be jealous of how much you save just staying with family as long as you can. Or at least until you cant stand them anymore lol. Ledger gets a lot of hate, kinda sussy. Closed source, leaked customer info. I dont use crypto cards. I like Trezor. There's other great ones too you can find on old reddit posts. I just buy Bitcoin. Idk how youre buying btc at only 16 but please be safe.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin stayed below $70,000 as Wall Street opened, with analysts blaming profit-taking after BTC briefly hit $70,275. Market uncertainty tied to escalating US-Iran tensions and Trump’s renewed threats also weighed on sentiment. Glassnode said realized profits spiked above $20 million per hour near $70K, signaling local exhaustion. Traders say reclaiming $71,000 could trigger a much larger rally, while some see oversold conditions supporting a relief bounce. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Efficient_Visage

Wait until Trump fucks the petroldollar. BTC is gonna be lookin REAL good after that.

ThatInternetGuy

You swapped to Wrapped Bitcoin (wBTC) on a different network of the coin you says you swapped from Bitcoin. That means you need to deposit that wBTC to Binance for example, and then trade it to BTC. Then you can withdraw BTC back to your wallet.

Ootoobin

BTC is over bro.

HSuke

That's 2.7% inflation, which is far less inflation than Bitcoin has had on average so far. (It wasn't until 2020 that BTC dropped under 3% inflation)

Financial_Vanilla_47

Nah you are just in denial that this is a miner capitulation and strategy/ETF insolvency driven breakdown because you won't admit it until it starts to actually happen but it probably won't happen until BTC is below 30k and by then it's too late and only the people who admit and and move on at some point survive.

Academic_Attorney996

Don't feel bad. Apple, Amazon,Microsoft, and Google have ZERO Bitcoin !!! Pathetic. Meanwhile, Michael Saylor accumulates 4,871 BTC today!!

ElanInsights

and remember u/Suguha_chan, you may not have to sell your BTC anyway - collateralized loans are already here, more on the way. That saves you plenty of sats otherwise spent in cap gains taxes (depending on where you live).

FoundationNo6368

Mail me your harddrive and I'll get the BTC out and give it to you free of charge.

ElanInsights

Thanks for calling it out u/Bac0ngh0st It's a mock setup of "average investor" holdings distribution (note - I'm not a financial advisor, so the allocations are very arguable). BTC starts as the underdog and wins by miles....!

senditFrmU2M

When everyone hates BTC, miners are hurting, liquidations spike, and volume explodes—that’s capitulation. We’re not there yet. Kept it simple

CoughxDropz

Is today Bitcoin day or something? CashApp gave me free BTC saying it was.

beatbopfun

as long we the globe keep printing money, BTC will go up

KingKetsa

Congrats on flexing 100k and not 1 BTC lol

LeagueLost

Worse is staying in dollars that keeps dropping value. Sound like you don't still understand BTC. It's not a trade but a long HODL.

ElanInsights

Superb info u/InvestAISavvy . Have you done any research / analysis on whale % growth of total BTC outstanding? I'm more anxious about BTC takeover (they don't have to control all 21m to control it!), than quantum breakage.

Turbulent_Deal_3145

Then don't buy 100,000 of bitcoin all at once. I don't know what your overall financial situation is, in the sense that I don't know if 100k is your life savings or if its pennies to you. It's a significant portion of your savings then you should not be spending it all on bitcoin period. 5% max is sensible - although lets be real. Not many people on this sub are sensible when it comes to investment allocation. Personally I'm sitting at 12 or 15% BTC and even I find that too much. And it's for the exact reason you cited. Speculative assets are volatile. My bitcoin has lost just shy of half its value this year so far. That sucks. But it doesn't suck nearly as much as if I was all in. And that's why you have to use moderation when it comes to buying bitcoin or anything like bitcoin.

ElanInsights

Thanks for the feedBac! ;) Anser: b/c I wanted it to be real world for the avg investor placing only a 5% bet. The goal of the post is to turn window shoppers into HODLERS. Vision> millions of HODLERS keeps BTC well distributed. Maybe a post on that later!

Calm-Professional103

Are you referring to the Purpose BTC ETF?

Comfortable-Rule-491

This thread didn’t start good. 2 big red candles on BTC/ETH

zeroq26

I was browsing the Internet forums and I came across the BTC forum, and Satoshi was chatting with other people about BTC. I was just reading chats and thinking about buying this, what if I get scammed, so I didn't. After that I forgot about it.

Christavito

When realistically it's somewhere in between. Perhaps BTC becomes less volatile in the future and experiences a relatively moderate growth at 8%. Assuming they're around 30, By the time they reach retirement age, they could be sitting at around $820K. Combine that with Social security, and additional cash savings and they are able to avoid lifestyle creep they might have enough to retire.