BTC

Scarab702

I've stopped talking to people about it unless they talk about it first and happen to be a bitcoiner then it's a great conversation. It's pointless to most people. If they don't understand and read about BTC first I've learned it's a waste of time.

Hot-Bumblebee6399

Si no sabes analizar compras en BTC o ALT mi recomendación BTC comprar cada 15 a 20% de su caida, y en ALT de 30% a 50% en cada caída.. es decir SOLANA en 110$ luego la próxima compra 30% menos y así sucesivamente y en cada compra dobla tu margen, la primera compra 100$ la segunda 200$ la tercera 400$, nunca hagas compras tan pegadas..

Pleasant_Maybe_5523

With that much BTC, I’d look into a Trezor. Just learn how self-custody works first and do a small test transfer.

Pleasant_Maybe_5523

I’d start small and avoid worrying about timing the market. If you want to actually own Bitcoin, buy BTC and learn self-custody. If you just want exposure to the price, a spot ETF is simpler.

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Post is by: Patriot_tech and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/Squeeze_em/comments/1x0q7kr/thursday_watchlist_oct_8_veea_tnon_meds_btct_bmgl/ Nothing on our squeeze screen scored 3 of 4 on Wednesday, so this is a board of near-misses, and we're calling them that. VEEA stays on under our standing update. TNON, BTCT and BMGL are new, and each one has registered stock or warrants sitting behind the short interest. MEDS stays from yesterday. APUS, IPDN and ONDS come off: all three still score 1 of 4. **How fresh this is:** Closes, ranges and volume are Wednesday's regular session, 3 PM CT close (Nasdaq, Yahoo). After-hours prices are the after-hours close, ~7:00 PM CT, from Nasdaq and StockAnalysis. After-hours volume is a rough figure: Nasdaq's full-day total minus Yahoo's regular-session count. Borrow and shares available are Curved Trading's IBKR feed as of 7:32 PM CT. Short interest is still the Sep 15 settlement. The Sep 30 numbers still weren't out on StockAnalysis or Nasdaq at 7:40 PM CT. Filings are from EDGAR, rechecked at about 7:55 AM CT Thursday, with nothing new overnight on any of the five. **Premarket lines** are Nasdaq's last premarket trade as of about 7:53 AM CT Thursday, and **borrow** was refreshed from Curved's 7:47 AM CT feed. Premarket volume is thin, so recheck everything at the open. **Squeeze screen:** We score four things: short interest of at least 20% of float, borrow of at least 50%, utilization of at least 90%, and a dated catalyst inside two weeks. We don't have a utilization figure we can verify, so the best possible score is 3. This time we went past Curved's top-50 borrow board and also checked borrow on all 100 names on StockAnalysis's most-shorted list, plus Curved's fee-spike and mover lists. Five names had both the crowd and the fee, on numbers we trust. None had a date on the calendar. Three more (MGN, AGRZ, WETO) looked 50%+ short on a screener and came apart in the filings: two reverse splits landed after the Sep 15 count, and one share count is out of date. --- **1) $VEEA: down again, on a quarter of Tuesday's volume** * Closed **$4.71**, down 4.7% from Tuesday's **$4.94**, in a range of $4.55 to $4.98. That's also 3% to 4% under Tuesday's after-hours close of $4.86 to $4.89. * About **473K** shares traded in the regular session, against roughly 1.8M Tuesday and 66.9M Monday. * After hours: **$4.63 to $4.66** at the after-hours close, ~7:00 PM CT, depending on the feed (Nasdaq vs. StockAnalysis), so down 1.1% to 1.7% from the regular close, on roughly **10K** shares. No filings or news after the bell. * Borrow is **783.2%** with **55K** available after the bell (last changed 5:17 PM CT). At the regular close it was 799.4% with 35K. Tuesday's regular close was 810.9% with 30K, and Wednesday morning showed 803.3% with 25K. Supply more than doubled in a day, which is worth watching. * Short interest **1.22M** at Sep 15, about 80% of the **1.52M** float (StockAnalysis). Days to cover 0.11. * No new filings since Tuesday's 4:25 PM CT 8-K, which put a director on the audit committee. NovaGen is still a non-binding term sheet, with no definitive agreement or vote date on EDGAR. Curved still flags the Aug 13 424B5 ($75M) as an ATM, with usage not broken out. * SSR was on Wednesday, carried over from Tuesday. Wednesday's low was 7.9% under Tuesday's close, short of Rule 201's 10% trigger, so the restriction should be off Thursday. Check your platform's flag. * Premarket: **$4.38**, down 7.0% from the regular close, on about **29K** shares by 7:53 AM CT. Borrow still **783.2%**, with availability up again to **60K** as of 7:47 AM CT. Curved still shows SSR on, so check your platform's flag before you trust our math on Rule 201. * Fade check: the fee is far above 50%, availability is far under 500K even after doubling, and there's no new offering. Not fading. * Screen: short interest 80.01% of float, borrow 783.2%, utilization not in our notes, no dated catalyst inside two weeks (earnings estimated Nov 13). 2 of 4. *What the numbers don't prove:* Two straight down days with the fee near 800%. The borrow says shorting is still hard. It doesn't say anyone is losing sleep over it. *What takes it off the board:* The fee drops under 50%, or more than 500K shares show up to lend, two sessions running. A new offering that supplies the shorts does it in one. **2) $TNON (Tenon Medical): the screener says 87% short, the S-3 says closer to 20%** * Closed **$3.50**, down 5.8% from **$3.715**, in a range of $3.38 to $3.64, on about **354K** shares (423K Tuesday). * After hours: **$3.44** at the after-hours close, ~7:00 PM CT, on both Nasdaq and StockAnalysis, down 1.7% from the regular close, on roughly **2K** shares. No filings or news after the bell. * Borrow is **335.5%** with **75K** available (last changed 4:47 PM CT). Tuesday's close was 330.7% with 100K. * Short interest **539,306** at Sep 15. StockAnalysis shows that as 86.87% of a 620,827-share float. The S-3 filed Oct 5 counts **2,688,735** shares outstanding as of Oct 1. Float can't be bigger than that, so the short interest is at least about 20% of float. That still clears our bar, barely. The 1-for-35 reverse split was Aug 10, before the count, so the split isn't the problem. The new shares are. * That S-3 registers the resale of **858,269** shares from Series B warrants struck at **$5.02**, issued in a Sep 11 warrant inducement. * After Tuesday's close the company announced the full commercial launch of its SImmetry+ SI joint screw. There's no date attached to anything after that. * Premarket: **$3.46**, down 1.1% from the regular close, on about **4K** shares by 7:46 AM CT. Borrow still **335.5%** with **100K** available as of 7:47 AM CT. * Screen: short interest at least 20% of float, borrow 335.5%, utilization not in our notes, no dated catalyst inside two weeks (earnings estimated Nov 12). 2 of 4. *What the numbers don't prove:* That 87% figure is the old share count talking. Run the same short interest against the new count and the percentage drops by about three-quarters. *What takes it off the board:* The Sep 30 short interest comes in under 20% of the new share count, or the stock climbs through $5.02 and those warrant shares show up. **3) $MEDS (DataMeds AI): fourth straight down close, and the borrow loosened** * Closed **$2.88**, down 6.2% from **$3.07**, in a range of $2.84 to $3.13, on about **351K** shares (about 640K Tuesday). It closed at $4.06 on Oct 1. * After hours: about **$2.87** at the after-hours close, ~7:00 PM CT (StockAnalysis), down 0.3% from the regular close. After-hours volume is not in our notes: Nasdaq's quote didn't update and StockAnalysis's day total runs below the regular session. No filings or news after the bell. * Borrow is **440.0%** with **20K** available (last changed 11:47 AM CT), down from 533.1% with 8K Wednesday morning. * It's on Nasdaq's Reg SHO threshold list in the Oct 6 file, the latest one posted. Curved counts 11 days. Curved showed SSR on Wednesday too. Wednesday's low was 7.5% under the prior close, so no fresh trigger. * Float **1.27M**, short interest **430,628** at Sep 15 (StockAnalysis). * No filings since Sep 17. The Aug 31 PRE 14C (written-consent actions) still has no definitive 14C behind it, so there's no effective date to put on the calendar. * Premarket: **$3.10**, up 7.6% from the regular close, on about **6.7M** shares by 7:53 AM CT, per Nasdaq. That's more than five times the float, and we found no filing or news behind it. Borrow still **440.0%**, with availability down to **15K** as of 7:47 AM CT. * Screen: short interest 33.85% of float, borrow 440.0%, utilization not in our notes, no dated catalyst inside two weeks (earnings estimated Nov 19). 2 of 4. *What the numbers don't prove:* The fee fell and supply more than doubled while the stock kept sliding. That looks like shorts getting comfortable, not cornered. *What takes it off the board:* Availability keeps climbing, or the fee slips under 50%. **4) $BTCT (BTC Digital): plenty of shorts, plenty of stock to borrow** * Closed **$1.08**, down 3.6% from **$1.12**, in a range of $1.05 to $1.10, on about **534K** shares (656K Tuesday). * After hours: about **$1.09** at the after-hours close, ~7:00 PM CT (StockAnalysis), up about 1% from the regular close, on roughly **13K** shares. No filings after the bell. * Borrow is **253.5%** with **1.2M** shares available (last changed 1:32 PM CT). Tuesday's close was 296.3% with 1.0M. * Short interest **4.15M** at Sep 15, 36.50% of an **11.37M** float (StockAnalysis). Days to cover 0.14. * A resale prospectus filed Sep 18 covers up to **18,421,050** shares, **12,280,700** of them from common warrants, against **11,800,567** shares outstanding before it. Fully exercised, the count goes to about **30.2M**. * No filings since Sep 18. * Premarket: **$1.07**, down 0.9% from the regular close, on about **92K** shares by 7:44 AM CT. Borrow still **253.5%**, but availability dropped to **750K** from 1.2M as of 7:47 AM CT. * Screen: short interest 36.50% of float, borrow 253.5%, utilization not in our notes, no dated catalyst inside two weeks (earnings estimated Nov 11). 2 of 4. *What the numbers don't prove:* A big fee means very little when 1.2 million shares were sitting there to borrow last night. That's about a tenth of the company. This morning's 750K is still plenty. *What takes it off the board:* Availability keeps growing, or the fee follows it down under 50%. **5) $BMGL (Basel Medical Group): an offering that's effective but hasn't priced** * Closed **$3.28**, down 1.5% from **$3.33**, in a range of $3.18 to $3.28, on about **12.5K** shares. It's thin. * After hours: one print at **$3.25** around 6:30 PM CT (StockAnalysis), down 0.9%, on too few shares to move the day's total. No filings or news after the bell. * Borrow is **98.5%** with **45K** available (last changed 8:32 AM CT). Tuesday's close was 96.3%. * Short interest **159,585** at

AlanArtemisa

Yay, discounted BTC!

SkillzThatKillz10

Also it seems at least a little ironic for someone in a BTC Reddit thread to call someone out for being religious lol

AttemptKitchen

The problem with Crypto is that it is just full of leverage gamblers, nobody buys crypto anymore to hold, just BTC maybe. We are never going to go up like this, MMs will just liquidate both ways forever.

jasonslpt

BTC \~$80.8K: longs look trapped. Nearest long-liq \~$71M under \~$80.72K, bigger magnet \~$396M near \~$79.3K. Wrong if we hold above \~$80.94K (\~$154M shorts). Forced perps only. Not advice.

Bakkus1987

Same goes for BTC bears. Fuck them bears.

Saintgein

BTC and crypto are actually really small compared to the stock and bond market. And indeed the fed also has it's share. Maybe this is why they delay banning of cash money, because that's them staying alive in the end lol.

Saintgein

OMG AI WILL HACK BTC fud. Meanwhile BTC just went down a bit to reset it's huge gains of the last weeks.

MondayOctober

BTC has no top as long as the dollar has no bottom 

CompetitionDouble420

I'm guessing dude was off by a decimal point lol likely meant 0.09 BTC

IAmMiddleChild

Let's test. You call your bank and start working on mortgage paperwork, I'll grab a quick loan online and purchase BTC. Meet here when they settle.

Nervous-Jicama8202

Thanks for your reply! That's interesting! What factors do you usually rely on to decide when to exit a trade? And were your tests mainly on BTC, or did you include altcoins as well?

CompetitionDouble420

Wasn't a near miss, but I sent ~$200 worth of BTC to the wrong address once, in the beginning of my crypto journey. Made the rookie mistake of manually entering the wallet address to send to, rather than copy/paste 🫠🫠

MerkleChainsaw

Good points! I agree with your concerns on the dollar and debt burden, but for that trade there are better alternative than BTC that are income producing, like foreign equities or real estate.

username12435687

What does this have to do with his Bitcoin question though? I mean it's not bad advise but it completely disregards his actual question and a compound interest calculator is next to useless when it comes to a volatile asset like BTC..

Fear_Blind83

Coinbase Prime holds 965,000 BTC in custody on behalf of institutions, they are the largest holder after Satoshi himself.

lobhater

We should make a new subreddit for BTC that you have to pass a test to be a part of. To weed out people that don't understand basics. They can stay here and when ready take the test

Cyberstu72

Dont look for BTC storage advice on Reddit , too many scammers, try asking grok or ChatGPT

Lagna85

Still working almost like a clockwork for BTC. But alts…….

gordonfr_

Where can I buy a house for 1 BTC?

Key-Enthusiasm-3403

You put a number and a date down a year ago, which is more than most cycle posts do. Half the replies here are the exact day plus a couple of months either side, and a window that wide can't miss, so nothing it says is worth much. What I'd do is fix the window and what counts as a miss before the date comes. Then the date is a hit or it isn't and nobody argues about it afterwards. No view on where BTC goes from me.

chainglance_cm

Russia's central bank was floating a full crypto ban a few years ago, and now the country's biggest state bank is holding BTC for people. The custody part makes more sense once you see what Sber has been building around it. They already ran a pilot loan to a BTC miner using bitcoin as collateral, and the plan is to accept BTC, ETH and USDT for loans once regulators sign off. You can't lend against coins you don't hold, so custody was always going to come first. Just keep in mind that not your keys hits different when the keyholder is a state-owned bank under sanctions.

Accomplished-Eye5567

You realize it offers selling out of there right? Also, how much BTC do we really want custodied by one company?

chainglance_cm

I'd push back a bit on "far and away" though. The unreachable node problem applies to Bitcoin too, and BTC's reachable count alone usually lands in a similar range, before you add all the home nodes sitting behind routers. So I'd call it a close race at best. Node count also doesn't tell you who controls the stake or where the nodes live. A Raspberry Pi in someone's closet counts the same as one of a big staking provider's servers, but they don't carry anywhere near the same weight. Stake share across the big staking providers and how many nodes sit on a handful of cloud hosts probably say more about Ethereum's decentralization than the raw node number. Client diversity is genuinely Ethereum's strongest card here though, no other chain comes close on that.

Original-Assistant-8

Same reply I gave to another The OpenAI news solving math problems that humans had not certainly leads to uncertainty and doubt. Not sure I'm at the fear stage- I think transitioning to post quantum cryptography with crypto agility will allow systems to stay ahead of it. And that includes BTC. I think solutions are there but have to make some tougher decisions and get moving

Original-Assistant-8

The OpenAI news solving math problems that humans had not certainly leads to uncertainty and doubt. Not sure I'm at the fear stage- I think transitioning to post quantum cryptography with crypto agility will allow systems to stay ahead of it. And that includes BTC. I think solutions are there but have to make some tougher decisions and get moving

MerkleChainsaw

Right now I don't have any long term crypto investments. I started in 2017, though only with a small investment so I've done very well but I'm not retired or anything. In earlier years the logic was basically "crypto is up a lot, good time to sell" or "crypto is down a lot, good time to buy". Unfortunately I think the logic is now reversed, for BTC at least. Nobody believes it's going to morph to be electronic cash anymore or a stable store of value, so the driving narrative for the typical boomer investing in ETFs is just "hold long term through the swings and BTC always goes up". It's important for BTC to keep that narrative alive. So basically if BTC doubles over the next year I'll feel a lot better about it, but at a time I don't want to buy. If BTC halves over the next year I'll feel much worse about it, but at a time I don't want to sell. This is the reverse of how it used to be, and makes me want to stay out. I do have an algotrading bot that makes day trades, but that's unrelated to my longer term outlook.

ippleing

No. Your claims back up my original points. When there's hype it never pans out for reasons. 'Whales flushed out shorts' 'Whales flushed out longs' 'Levered longs got wiped out' 'Levered shorts got wiped out' *brokerage firm*: 'BTC to reach $240k by August' Never a brokerage firm hyping downward action. Don't try and time the market, just buy and forget about it.

xcrunner2414

I had multiple BTC being held as collateral on the platform called Abra. I saw an email much later after it was sent by the platform that they were shutting down, and anybody who still had outstanding loans needed to pay them off ASAP to get their collateral back. I was very nervous that I wouldn’t get my BTC back.

hoppeeness

The fact that gold is dropping and BTC isn’t rising is a bad macro sign. If BTC isn’t taking the place of some of gold then BTC has no use case. Most gold price is paper gold anyway which is more equivalent to BTC, especially when it’s tokenized.

Fear_Blind83

Coinbase Prime custody Billions of dollars worth of BTC for some of the largest institutions including Michael Saylor's Strategy and BlackRock ETF etc..

kimmagandss

One thing I found notable about BYDFi’s latest campaign is the temporary increase in futures leverage for BTC and ETH. The maximum of 500x is an aggressive level that experienced traders may want to investigate. It also means the margin for error becomes much smaller when the market turns unexpectedly. Looking at liquidation rules and other trading conditions should come first.

Reasonable_Band1536

How are you going to pay the loan back without a job lined up? Selling BTC affords you the chance to not have to pay anything except taxes. I would imagine the loan would cost more with interest.

seusicha

Both can definitely be true in many ways. You can die next week. Bitcoin can stay in the $100k range for the best décadas (and I doubt you'll own a trillion dólares by then). BTC Will hit a New ATH, I'm pretty sure. But logically that makes no Sense.

hodler1992

Yeah 20% BTC 80% SATSs

hodler1992

2-3 red days within the sideway movement and people are questioning BTC again 🤣

No-Wrap3568

I assume you're a beginner. With that in mind here's all that you should look for in a wallet:- 1) EAL 6+ secure element 2) More than one source of TRNG, so that what happened with coldcard doesn't happen again 3) No single point of failure, managing a seedphrase is nightmare for most people, I was no exception. Best option would be a Shamir's Secret Sharing enabled wallet, the best solution as of now 4) A BTC-only firmware if you don't trade in shitcoins, reduces the surface area for unwanted attacks. 5) Native-Inheritance support if you're not too young and if you don't hold a big amount. Make sure you don't skip your own research, before buying, spend some time understanding how cold wallets works, what breaks them and what to avoid. HODL for life!

TheBestintheWest11

is this why BTC dropped 2 percent? if true, they definitely gona dump.

Significant_Grab_173

You work extra, you neglect all your other gaming/party/fast food monthly expenses, you DCA every month / week / day the same amount you can afford to invest and potentialy lose, you get deeper into bitcoin, you stop looking at the chart, you sacrifice a little bit more than you thought you would at first and finally you get to 0.1 BTC... in that exact order :) Good luck!

SuchTrezorVeryCrypto

At 0.01 BTC there's no wrong answer, but the risks on each side aren't quite what they first look like. On the exchange. Risks include insolvency or fraud (Mt. Gox, FTX), account freezes, KYC or regulatory problems, and hacks. Large exchanges have handled these better in recent years, but "not your keys, not your coins" is true. It's a counterparty risk you can't control or fully see into. For a small amount you're DCAing into, many people accept it as a temporary holding spot. On self-custody. The biggest risk usually isn't hackers or wallet companies. It's you: a lost seed phrase, a backup that was never tested, a typo in a written word, a passphrase you forget, malware on a machine you thought was clean, or heirs who can't access anything. Far more Bitcoin has been lost to user error than stolen from well-run exchanges. That's the real cost of the added complexity you mentioned.

anon1999666

I’ve seen this sub say BTC will have its time when big tech crashes lol. If big tech crashes like it did in 23 then BTC will be testing 20k again

Present_Let2487

BTC 840k before GTA 7?

lost_on_the_chain

I permanently lost 9 BTC. Doing my part to help with scarcity 😂

TestPsychological477

BTC is not money, as it’s lacking a power to enforce it. To make actual money, there has to be a state that forces its validity upon the society it has command over. It’s pretty obvious: there’s plenty of ppl who, by not owning money, are seperated from wealth and it’s in their interest to go against what power money gives to its owners (ie. buying/owning goods, labour, land). Thinking you can just make some sort of fantasy currency that can work as real money is delusional for that reason.

Icy_Dragonfruit__

0.1 BTC is a solid milestone. The consistency behind stacking it matters more than the number. 👏

n3w1ight

Someone willing to pay 84k USD for 1 BTC. Yet it is seemingly dead.

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crimeo

There is no sense in which "PoS is printed in the system" and PoW isn't. PoW is "printed in the system" just as much. There WILL be X many coins minted in the next year, period, whether the hash rate is staggeringly huge, or whether it's one guy's iphone. That is internally decided ahead of time, exactly the same as PoS. And in both cases, the distribution of who gets the internally defined number of coins is entirely decided by who was rich before already in the fiat system. In PoW, the already-rich can afford most of the ASICs. In PoS, the already-rich can afford most of the staking coins. Same exact thing. > the door reopens for whoever can produce energy cheaper. This provides no actual benefit, and is in fact a massive **weakness** of PoW. Because "who can produce electricity cheapest" is only certain geographical regions. The narrower the margins, the fewer the regions, and those few regions have limited governments controlling them. Sooner or later, 1 or 2 governments will be able to pass laws that govern all PoW miners. So they will become de facto controllers of BTC or any other PoW coin. PoS is immune to this huge flaw, since staking is equally efficient everywhere.

SuspiciousMorning639

The interesting part to me isn't really the price action, it's how many different pieces are starting to connect around LTC at the same time. Institutional products, payment infrastructure, DeFi and even a corporate treasury move is a pretty wide range. Makes me wonder whether LTC is quietly getting more utility while everyone is still mostly looking at BTC and ETH. BYDFi recently expanded its BTC/ETH futures offering too, so I'm curious whether we'll see more attention shift toward established altcoins as liquidity grows.

shortprisoner227

Bitcoin history is wild when you think about it. Before Mt. Gox there was no real exchange, so prices were basically whatever two people agreed on in a forum DM or IRC chat. Mid July 2010 makes sense because that's when there was actually a market price instead of just "hey I'll send you 500 BTC for a pizza." Even then liquidity was tiny, like a few trades a day. PayPal was probably the easiest way but also super risky since chargebacks meant you could lose both the coins and the cash. Early adopters really had to trust strangers on the internet, which is kinda funny for a trustless system.

Icy_Dragonfruit__

If you’re new, start small and DCA rather than trying to time the perfect entry. Learn BTC first, then decide between holding BTC directly or using an ETF.

audit-content-user

You can transfer all your bitcoins to me as no use to you! I am happy to receive for free, deal? Terms and conditions: minimum 5 $BTC per transaction

ZealousidealTap9756

It's funny how many times I've read this and BTC is still alive

maymanmaven

You think BTC retracement stops at 82-83k? And I’m not telling you to actively trade. For me, a move from 60-ish to 86k is more than enough to take profit and wait for a retrace. That’s all I want to say

Medium-Renewed

I won't cause I was about to break-even with some altcoins haha. But it will be great to load up some BTC!

SAAGASolve

A blockchain is market infrastructure. I thin there is going to be one, as historically that is how things have run. Market infra allows you to make currencies, and yes, AI Bots will be making their own currencies and equities, and to do that, they will need BTC.

kennymac6969

I'm in the US and last time I checked you couldn't withdraw BTC. Did that change or was I wrong? Since then I've completely moved away from Venmo credit card because of this.

Remote-Basket-8676

I invested heavily in RE....if i put that money in BTC at the same time, if could've bought way more RE. Screw that trad, "Ill be rich by the time my dick doesnt work" bullshit

Polishzebracamel

1st, there has to be another alt coin season. Just has to happen, won't do it on its own. 3$ can happen on that alone. Other alt coins won't get you 10x even if that happens and that's the point of your original post, no special catalyst,just actual 10x price movement. If actual funds adapt the narrative of earning yield on the held BTC. STX is the best vehicle for that, there is competition,but STX is the original. That's the $3+ story

neo-crypto

You don't get the point of having BTC then! Sorry.

gmakhs

You can hold BTC as BTC on your own wallet and government will never know ......

lefthandedbucket

It could go to $40k, or $20k, or $450k, but it doesn't matter - it's about how many BTC you have, not what BTC is worth against the USD.

cicada_eater

tbh i think people focus way too much on the 21m number lol personally i’d rather see how BTC handles the mining side long term. if i was a miner, i’d want fees to become a much bigger part of my income as the rewards keep shrinking. 2140 is basically irrelevant to me lol. the next few halvings are where shit gets interesting.

Hodl4BlastOff

STX is an interesting one. The BTC yield/institutional angle caught my attention. What do you think is the biggest catalyst that gets it back to $3?

c0dyharris

It is the traditional system now. BTC was cooler before ETFS and governments got in. Lost the plot

rorowhat

Of course you can't time the top, specially during a bull run when everyday it's going up by 10% or more. He kept selling it as the price kept getting higher and higher, classic DCA. He also worked at coinbase where he got it listed, back when coimbase only listed BTC, Eth and Litecoin. While he was DCA at the bull market, he was also telling people to hodle. You do you, but Litecoin is gone, it's not even on the top 10. Charlie killed the vibe, like it or not.

Far_Significance1669

BTC is on sale!! (Huge discount) :)

mando_number5

Don’t tell me it costs BTC to play

PrinceWhoPromes

BTC: down -5.12%

Polishzebracamel

I've played this game many times, came to the a reasonable conclusion. STX. Why? Currently at .3 it can go to $3, because it's already done it, that's a simple argument. It's a coin that actually does something, earns yields on BTC. They are expanding to funds now. So a fund that's mandated to hold BTC can still earn interest on it. Simple idea.

CSMasterClass

Ah, the Honda Civic numerere. But this still does not give a measure of volatility --- though it gives us a number. Not many people use this measure, but it is not so different from either the BigMac index or the Gin and Tonic index. Usins your index, which is more sensitive Gold or BTC.

4-1Good-79

You can keep your BTC and use it as collateral to borrow USDC

crimeo

You're replying to a thread about a decentralization focused narrative, that does NOT consider BTC the most decentralized, but are complaining about opposite narratives? If, every time you see the right narrative directly in front of you, you ignore it and complain about how the narrative isn't that, then it seems like you're committed to never recognizing the possibility of being wrong.

JoeOpus

Screw Robinhood. Can’t believe ppl still use it. And $25m, great. That moved BTC’s price 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001

OkDeer4213

Same thing happened to me. Bought 1BTC for 5k. Panic sold during the pandemic. Had to buy it back at 10k. HODL ever since!

MathHelper2428

Price to buy the WDW ticket increased 3500% over 55 years. Price to buy BTC increased 13,486% over 10 years.... Glad the cost of WDW hasnt inflated nearly as crazy as BTC.

throwaway12three4

Umm... Have you met this friend in person? Reason I ask is because the more you explain the situation it sounds like a scam in the making. Sure, it might be legit but why would someone venmo it to you, then you pay him? sounds like a bunch of hoops. Also, why can he not get Venmo himself? or have the other person send BTC direct to him? or have the other person pay him in a way that he can accept? If the Venmo transaction you received turns out to be illegitimate and you already sent the BTC out, you could be on the hook for those funds. Just sounds kinda sketch.

tenor_tymir

Brokers like Kraken typically offer two options: either you choose the simple method ("Convert"), where you exchange your funds directly for BTC, or you use the broker's trading platform (the "Pro" version), which allows you to use various order types and view the order book. The convenient "Convert" feature always entails higher fees, whereas the trading platform ("Pro") offers lower fees but requires a bit more expertise. However, it is not rocket science: you simply place a "limit order" in the order book, specifying the price at which the order should be executed. This allows you to control "slippage" and ensure you acquire the BTC at your desired price. Conversely, if you place a "market order" instead of a limit order, there is a risk that the order will be executed at a higher price rather than the current market rate.

MrMoo151515

I’ve held it in self custody for a little over a year now. I really only did it because people said to do it. I got caught up in the coldcard entropy scare. I didn’t lose my BTC but I also only had 1 hardware wallet (mk4) at the time and really had no where to turn to so I dumped it all onto my brokerage. After the dust settled I bought some new wallets. And I’m limited to how much I can withdraw at a time. Daily limits, weekly limits, monthly limits. They’ve even temporarily frozen my account and took a bunch of phone calls for them to unfreeze it because I kept withdrawing my max daily/weekly limit. Mother fuckers will happily accept my BTC without restriction but the second I want it back in custody it’s a fight. I’m still withdrawing each week trying to get it all back. This was the click for me. This was the real world if I want my money I have to beg for it moment.

VivaLaBiome

Very simple solution --- buy stocks correlated with BTC. MSTR, BIT, ETHA or whatever. You don't need to own crypto to be directly exposed to it.

lobhater

Anyone know of a subreddit that has interesting discussions about BTC or the tech around it? Instead of just why the price changes every 15 minutes

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locotx

Bro, get a loan off your BTC . . 12-year, average interest rate about 12% . . just work to pay off the interest asap . . .then in a year pay off the interest and any extra principal and refinance. I believe that's how the whole "never sell your BTC" and "borrow against your asset" thing works.

SAAGASolve

Well BTC hasn't even begun to synergize with the rest of the economy. >Giovanni Santostasi found power-law behaviour manifest in bitcoin over its fifteen year life. That my friend, is called anecdotal sampling. >If Geoffrey West's predictions about power-laws apply I sincerely doubt they do.

dou8le8u88le

Gold and the stock market are both approaching cycle lows later this year, could be very interesting if money rotates out of them and into BTC. But I’m not counting on it.

Archophob

google Gemini thinks the S-curve will flatten once we reach 1-5 million $/BTC in the late 2030ies.

ParagonSaint

Do you have an exit price? How high this cycle are you looking to cash out on BTC and ETH? Obviously no one can time the top but if you’ve been around a decade what’s your advice on “taking profit” for this next cycle/bull?

ippleing

Exit liquidity for the Epsteins. You'll start seeing more articles now from outlets about BTC being 200k by next year.

ippleing

Brothers, I've been in BTC since 2016. EVERY SINGLE TIME I started seeing articles like this from the financial industry it's always followed by a collapse. EVERY TIME there's a breakout it happens silently when NOBODY expects it. This time is no different, tread carefully, don't fall for the FOMO.

VeterinarianFun2455

bond market sell off continues risk assets sell off to cover losses. this is short term as the high bond market sell off increases the bond prices and then the fed has to step in with QE or some alternative aka printing money. HODL, and HODL hard because this is going to be a boon for the the larger BTC community.

BlitheringBloke

$1 per hour. DCA weekly on each Monday'. $168 each week. Regardless of the current fiat to BTC rate is.

BetterFunny6883

You mean selling 0.09 BTC not 0.9 BTC, that's an obvious typo. I'd say never sell your BTC ever

MinimalGravitas

> ETH whales who participated in ICO are praying that something will keep the chain alive (decentralisation, NFT cults, 99th L2 chain) so they can finally break even on their ETH/BTC entry. During the ICO 1 BTC got you 1,000 ETH. Now 1 BTC is worth about 32 ETH... so they are up over 30x on their ETH/BTC entry. > the whole cryptocurrency industry is gathered around "who has more TPS" and "who has more ETFs approved" and adoption One of the biggest conferences in the Ethereum calendar is the Cypherpunk Congress, happening in Mumbai in about 4 weeks (starts 2nd of November) As well as the usual names from Ethereum like Vitalik and Justin Drake, speakers have also included some of the original cypherpunks like David Chaum and Richard Stallman; Isabell Fernandes and Roger Dingledine from the TOR foundation; privacy whistleblowers like Chelsea Manning; Electronic Frontier Foundation director Eva Galperin, etc etc.

MrRoidsen

Except you don’t use BTC to buy things, you only use fake money aka fiat to buy things

EveliqTrace

Der Absturz sieht im Chart spektakulär aus, aber „Marktmanipulation“ ist damit noch nicht bewiesen. Der heutige BTC-Rückgang fällt mit mehreren Faktoren zusammen: steigenden Renditen, stärkerem Dollar, höheren Ölpreisen, einer erneuten Ablehnung bei rund 87.000 USD und einer größeren Liquidationskaskade. Interessant sind allerdings Berichte über mehrere neu angelegte Wallets, die kurz vor dem Rückgang stark gehebelte BTC-Shorts eröffneten. Aber auch hier gilt: **AUFFÄLLIGES TIMING ≠ KAUSALITÄT** **PROFITABLER SHORT ≠ MANIPULATION BEWIESEN** **KORRELATION ≠ KOORDINATION** Entscheidend wäre die nächste Evidenzstufe: Gibt es belastbare Hinweise auf koordinierte Orders, Informationsvorsprung oder eine gezielte Beeinflussung des Marktes? Bis dahin bleibt „Manipulation“ eine Hypothese -kein Befund.

CompetitiveAppeal663

If you’re selling .9 BTC for $8k, I’m sure you will find a buyer who will drive the fiat to your house.