BTC

AttemptKitchen

You know there are other things like macroeconomic factors apart that influences BTC price right? and with the ETFs much more. 2022 Bear Market : SP500 dumped 30-40%, FED doing rate hikes left and right and we had a very strong dollar. 2026 Bear Market : SP500 barely dipped before going to new highs, FED unlikely to do any rate hikes this year... and last a very weak dollar.

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Post is by: ShockCatOnSol and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sspsgu/fear_at_32_while_btc_posts_3_and_sol_hits_88_the/ Fear & Greed at 32 but the market is going green across the board. This is not a reckless rally — this looks like accumulation wearing a fear mask. Today’s full signal breakdown: BTC — BUY. Conviction 68/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $76,500–$80,000. Target $95,000. +3% on $46.5B volume in a fear environment. That’s institutional accumulation not retail FOMO. Watch consecutive closes above $80K for confirmation. SOL — BUY. Conviction 71/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $83–$91. Target $135. +3.73% on $4.28B volume. Ecosystem generating $400M+ combined daily volume across meme coins. Most favorable large-cap setup in today’s report. ETH — HOLD. Conviction 52/100. Outperforming BTC on 24h at +4.21% which is mildly positive. But one green day doesn’t reverse months of underperformance. Watch ETH/BTC ratio above 0.030 for early alt rotation signal. PENGU — HOLD/WATCH. Conviction 55/100. +11.87% on 38% market cap volume. Genuine accumulation signal but don’t chase an 11% move. Watch $0.0080 hold over next 48h for confirmation. BOME — SELL. Conviction 28/100. +6.92% but 124% volume-to-market-cap. The entire coin changed hands in one day. Whales using the green candle to exit into retail liquidity. Loudest warning bell in today’s data. Fear at 32 is the admission price for the next leg. The patient holder recognizes that. The crowd will buy 40% higher and call it smart. Not financial advice. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Rock_Strongo

Do you want a free market or not? I've been around crypto long enough to remember when Coinbase was taking all sorts of heat because they only listed BTC, ETH, and LTC while other exchanges were offering 100 different coins already. Ultimately these are exchanges, as long as users are properly warned of the risks I don't think it is their moral duty to determine which of these coins are "legit" - considering roughly 90% of all coins are going to 0 in the long run.

AnfowleaAnima

At this point isn't that thrill part of why you invest in BTC?

yefuck

I’m nearing 50% crypto exposure. It’s not all BTC though it’s a combination of crypto related stocks, BTC, a few alts (small allocation), STRK, etc. It’ll likely be 80-90% if and when we leg up.

metla85

People sleep on value averaging because DCA is easier to 'set and forget,' but as you showed, VA is mathematically superior for volatile assets like BTC. I’ve been following a similar path, but I found that as the portfolio grows, calculating the exact 'Value Path' and the required buys during drawdowns becomes a bit of a chore (and prone to human error). I actually built [**valueaveraging.app**](http://valueaveraging.app) specifically to solve this. It automates the math so you know exactly what your next move should be based on your target value, rather than just eyeballing percentages. It’s been a lifesaver for staying disciplined.

Most-Gur-8411

Begun the BTC war has 

__redruM

There are investments that will almost always recover from their bottom. Stock market index funds certainly. If QQQ or VOO dips, it’s safe to buy. BTC and ETH may also have that luxury, though 2022 took a while to recover. But there’s no reason to expect a random crypto project to recover from a dip.

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LiveSchiop

The premium on Binance P2P in India is brutal, like 3-5% sometimes which eats into your SIP gains pretty fast. I was in a similar spot and started checking other P2P platforms... ended up using BitValve for some of my buys and the spreads were noticeably tighter, though it depends on the day and available sellers tbh. As for SOL specifically... doing a SIP is fine in theory but you're putting all eggs in one basket. maybe split between SOL and ETH or BTC? just a thought. Tax wise you're looking at 30% flat on gains + 1% TDS on every transaction above 10k. Keep records of EVERY buy, the date, amount in INR, quantity. You'll need it at tax time. A lot of people ignore this and then panic during ITR filing lol Not financial advice obviously but the SIP approach itself is solid, dollar cost averaging works. The premium is your real enemy here.

Quokky-Axolotl7388

But we are so back man! There is nothing that could possibly go wrong now with my BTC long position backed with the money I loaned with my kidney as collateral

manharkatty

his tone could move BTC more than the decision

SnooMachines7409

I can take the other side of that bet. Did you say BTC will be 10£ by 2036 ? And u want to make a 1000£ bet?. This is how we'll do. We'll set up a Lightning channel between us both and each will deposit 1000 £ worth of sats today. Weekly, we'll look at the price and calculate the price differentia and move seats back and forth based on who's up. Are u up for it?

seagraham3265

To some extent, it is rather easy. All you need to do is keep track of what your average buy would have been had you bought at some frequency, and make sure you bulk buy at any point below that average value. Now, timing a bottom in near impossible. But buying when BTC has a low risk score? Much easier

WeakEstablishment686

I’m around 10% BTC/ETC at a 80/20 split. 80% index funds/ETFs/a few stock picks mostly mag 7 tilt. 10% treasuries

absurdamerica

Just glossing over the fact that almost all ETF’s are multiple diversified assets and BTC isn’t? Okay.

absurdamerica

An ETF isn’t paper BTC. Absolutely the dumbest thing I’ll read this week and it’s Wednesday.

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Post is by: Any_Pomegranate1134 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sslc0g/what_is_the_most_traded_cryptocurrency_in_the/ he main trend shows that **institutional investors are currently the primary buyers** of both Bitcoin and Ethereum through regulated spot ETFs, with Ethereum attracting more new capital than Bitcoin in the most recent trading sessions . Here are the latest net flows for the US spot ETFs as of April 21, 2026: |Asset|Daily Net Inflow|Recent Streak| |:-|:-|:-| |**Bitcoin (BTC)**|**$11.8 million** |6 consecutive days of inflows | |**Ethereum (ETH)**|**$43.4 million** |9 consecutive days of inflows | # 🔍 Who is Buying Right Now? The buying activity is heavily concentrated among large institutions, with a clear leader emerging. * **BlackRock is the Dominant Buyer**: The world's largest asset manager is leading the charge for both assets. On April 21 alone, BlackRock's Bitcoin ETF (IBIT) saw **$39.3 million** in inflows, while its Ethereum products (ETHA and ETHB) pulled in over **$52 million** combined . A day earlier, on April 20, the firm bought over **3,350 BTC and 38,280 ETH** in a single day . * **MicroStrategy is a Major Corporate Buyer**: The business intelligence firm continues to aggressively accumulate Bitcoin. Over the recent week, MicroStrategy spent **$2.54 billion** to add **34,164 BTC** to its holdings, surpassing BlackRock to become the largest corporate holder of Bitcoin . * **Other Institutional Activity**: "Whales" (large holders) have accumulated over **45,000 Bitcoin** in the past week, the highest pace since July 2025 . Additionally, asset manager Bitmine added **101,627 ETH** in the third week of April, marking its largest single-week purchase of the year . # 📈 What's Driving These Flows? The movement of capital into crypto ETFs is being driven by a few key factors: * **ETF Momentum and Access**: Spot ETFs provide a familiar, regulated way for traditional institutions like pension funds and wealth managers to gain exposure to crypto without directly holding the assets . The recent consistent inflows indicate that many see current price levels as an attractive entry point . * **Macroeconomic and Political Climate**: The market has been buoyed by news that the US-Iran ceasefire has been extended, which has boosted overall market confidence . Furthermore, recent statements from Kevin Warsh, the nominee for Federal Reserve Chair, that "crypto is now part of the US financial system" have reinforced the asset class's growing mainstream acceptance . * **A Shift Towards Ethereum**: While Bitcoin ETFs have seen massive inflows in the past, the data for April 21 shows a clear rotation of *new* capital favoring Ethereum. This suggests institutional investors are now increasing their allocation to Ethereum, possibly viewing it as a more established part of a long-term crypto portfolio . This is supported by a 41% increase in Ethereum's daily transaction volume and the mint of 1 billion new USDT on its network, which are signs of growing on-chain activity . # 📊 A Note on Outflows and Mixed Signals It's important to note that not all products are seeing inflows. The positive net numbers are driven by a few specific funds, masking outflows from others. * **Grayscale's Products are Seeing Outflows**: The Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) and Ethereum Trust (ETHE) saw outflows of **$17.5 million** and **$12.1 million** respectively on April 21 . This is a long-running trend as investors move from Grayscale's higher-fee products to newer, cheaper spot ETFs. * **Mixed Flows Among Issuers**: While BlackRock is buying, other major issuers like Fidelity and Bitwise saw outflows from their Bitcoin ETFs on the same day, highlighting that strategies vary among institutions . In summary, institutional investors, led by **BlackRock** and **MicroStrategy**, are the primary buyers, accumulating both Bitcoin and Ethereum via spot ETFs. While Bitcoin has seen massive accumulation, **Ethereum is currently attracting more fresh capital** on a daily basis. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Revolutionary-Cup78

At most you should allocate a portion of the savings. Don't put everything into one basket, as not even BTC has a certain future that long term (not saying it's going to 0, it may simply not go particularly high compared to different assets).

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Post is by: Suspicious_Act4982 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ssl05r/whats_the_dumbest_crypto_decision_you_made_that/ Back in 2022, I was messing around with crypto loans on nехо and ended up taking one out to buy BTC with it. Leveraged up right before everything crashed because I was convinced we were about to bounce. We did not bounce. Spent the next few months watching my collateral ratio drop. Kept adding more, trying not to get liquidated. Every morning, I'd check the price. At some point, I stopped looking. Couldn't do anything about it anyway. Either it recovers, or it doesn't. Fast forward to now, BTC recovered, the loan is paid off, and I'm sitting on more coin than I started with. People hear this and think I had some big plan to buy the dip. I didn't plan anything. I just froze and got lucky. What's yours? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

AttemptKitchen

From what I see BTC its building the perfect scenario to get back to 100k. If the Iran conflict gets resolved (and with the infinite ceasefires of Trump something tells me that the war will not last much longer) and the Genius Act get approved, it's the perfect excuse to sent it back to 100k.

slop_drobbler

Just looking at past cycles and the historical percentage draw-downs from bull cycle top to the next bear market bottom. With that in mind ~£30k (~$40k) seems likely by Sept/Oct. We are also seeing diminishing returns each bull market in terms of percentage increase from bottom to top. 2021 cycle BTC went from ~£3k to ~£60k. This time it was ~£15k to ~£90k. With that in mind £120k seems likely to me in 2029. Many here think ‘this time is different’ for various reasons, but if you compare to previous cycles BTC is playing out the same as always (alts are a different story though). I don’t have a crystal ball. Nobody really knows what’s going to happen - this is just my guess! I also think it seems likely Bitcoin will not be worth bothering with after 2029 as the risk/reward ratio will be lesser than just sticking with regular stocks due to the aforementioned diminishing returns. We’ll see what happens…

Spare-Dingo-531

I forgot to make a ethereum bottom prediction. https://www.tradingview.com/x/rU6ixp7J/ Ethereum has been in a parabolic downtrend against bitcoin since the merge. I think Bitcoin is subject to diminishing returns and crypto is inherently valuable, so I think Ethereum (which has the most adoption, most developer brainpower, and most advanced (by far) support ecosystem) will go up relative to bitcoin. That happens in 2027. The clarity act + dropping interest rates will also help out defi post-2027, which should support the ETH/BTC ratio. That being said, I think bitcoin crashes to 35K. And the ratio line is 0.0185. 35000*0.0185 is 650. So I think we see sub-700 Ethereum prices before the bear market ends.

Dettol-tasting-menu

BTC, Yes “Other cryptos”, No If you’re new, this is going to be the best tip for you. It will save you years of anger, frustration and confusion. It’s a shortcut to the goal that you will eventually get to after many dead ends and false hopes and money lost: Just stick to Bitcoin, and ditch any “crypto”.

Rikudo974

Who said it was 100% of their portfolio? Index funds are obviously the standard strategy. But treating BTC as a pure casino gamble over a 20-year horizon is completely outdated. With currency devaluation, not holding any BTC over two decades is the real risk.

SeriousGains

TRON is actively working on it and will adopt well before ETH and BTC.

EdgeQuiet2199

Mid 50s BTC / $1.4k ETH isn’t a wild call, but feels a bit “old cycle logic.” With ETFs and bigger players now, dips don’t always get that deep. Also geopolitics isn’t one-directional — sometimes it actually supports BTC. Shorts can work, just feels risky waiting for a perfect bottom that may not come this time.

Equivalent_Dog6713

fato! eu quero que fique "baixo" para comprar mais, já falei isso mais vezes aqui no sub mas parece que a maioria não concorda... ainda assim também temos outro lado: se o preço cair fico feliz pois consigo comprar mais BTC por menos valor. se o preço subir, fico mais "rico" pois meu patrimônio que já está em BTC aumentou.

InspectionCandid6409

Naw, just don’t miss the second best time. Figure out how much you can DCA a week and put that in every week. I recommend buying equities and BTC every week at a rate that you can hold longterm without selling.

xarips

Have fun rolling over the debt when BTC drops

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

FitCompetition1804

Keep my daily DCA going like I have since early February? I’m also ready with “dry powder” for larger limit orders if/when it does dump. This is my strategy to hedge my bet in case we don’t reach lows expected. I’m long on BTC, not some moon boy trying to take a quick profit or hope that I recoup “losses” because I bought at the top due to FOMO.

DuckHub42

Just get Strike its a BTC only exchange and 0 fees after a week of dca, my brothers and sister i buy every god damn day, so if u wont i will buy yours, kiss

Realistic_Support185

I am currently reading “The Bitcoin Standard” and “The Fiat Standard”. Very good books on our monetary system today. I have read about how banks are looking into using blockchains and stable coins. I can’t help but believe that BTC and other cryptos will be the new monetary system after the USD gets slaughtered to inflation similar to how the German Marks got slaughtered after WW1

Infinite_Switch1412

Man if I lost that much BTC I seriously don't know how I could live with myself lol.

Get_the_nak

A fight for the cheap BTC is ongoing

Laakhesis

100% minus your age, that’s your Bitcoin allocation based on your net worth. Only if you are a BTC Maxi

zakoal

The short version: whales bought 270k BTC last month. Ceasefire dies today. One of those signals is about to be proven wrong by end of week.

Realistic_Support185

I meant the portfolio %. Right now I have about 5.5% in BTC but plan on increasing that quite a bit

Realistic_Support185

I meant the portfolio %. Right now I have about 5.5% in BTC but plan on increasing that quite a bit

Realistic_Support185

That’s where I am right now. Just above 5.5% in BTC but no other crypto. I plan on increasing my BTC size

Liskpro_com

Great idea, bro! Long-term BTC/ETH exposure has historically outperformed most savings accounts, but the setup matters a lot. **Two main approaches people use:** Custodial account (e.g., Coinbase, Kraken): easiest to set up, but you're trusting a third party. Exchanges can freeze accounts, get hacked, change terms \[you name it\]. Fine for small amounts, but "not your keys, not your coins" really applies here. Not my preferred solution, especially for long term storage. Cold wallet (self-custody): more work upfront, but you fully control the funds. This is what most serious long-term holders recommend. I'm in this team for sure. For cold storage, a hardware wallet like a Satochip, Trezor or even Jade is worth considering. Do prefer HW that are open-source of course... By the way, the smartcard format is actually nice for this use case: easy to store in a safe or safety deposit box and forget about for years. On the volatility concern: totally valid. Dollar-cost averaging monthly (which you're already planning) helps a lot. Some people keep a small cash buffer alongside so kids aren't forced to sell at a bad time.

Temporary-Sweet-8573

Not too late, but definitely not risk-free. BTC is volatile, so only invest what you’re okay holding long-term. Your idea of putting in a chunk now and then DCA is actually a solid, low-stress strategy. Just make sure you’re diversified too; don’t go all-in on one asset, even if you believe in it long term.

thebaldmaniac

ETFs for S&P 500, NASDAQ, global markets or something I meant. BTC can be bought as a small percentage of overall amount.

salamdi

Welcome! Short answer: nobody can reliably tell you the *perfect* time to buy BTC. If you’re new, trying to “time the market” is usually where people lose money. A more realistic approach is: * Learn the basics first * Start small (good that you’re thinking this way) * Consider averaging in over time instead of going all-in at once BTC moves in cycles, and what feels like a “good time” is often only obvious *after* the fact. Before buying, I’d strongly recommend getting some structured learning so you actually understand what you’re doing. This site is a solid starting point: [https://simbtc.trade/](https://simbtc.trade/) It’ll help you understand market behavior, risk management, and strategy - which matter way more than guessing entry points. If you still want a simple beginner mindset: don’t chase pumps, don’t panic on drops, and never invest money you can’t afford to lose.

Lonely_Bumblebee8934

If you convert BTC to GBP you would trigger a CGT event.

Agile_Opportunity_41

BTC buyers will pay cash from other assets or get a loan against BTC if needed if they have enough instead of giving BTC. But either way if you aren’t planning on keeping the BTC let them figure that out. I don’t see how it really widens your pool of buyers by much at all.

Helliumr

OP, BTC will go down, look at the stats

f2pool-CSR2

BTC can also be accumulated by mining, not just buying.

PhysInstrumentalist

Because there will likely be a fintech advancement that leverages blockchain tech that feels like you’re paying with actual cash. I hate paying for things with Bitcoin, as a consumer I would still rather use cash to buy things, despite how much BTC is better in principle. The usability is simply not there, but people still need it to buy drugs so its not going anywhere.

slop_drobbler

I’m thinking circa £30k bottom for BTC before the year ends, probably around October. Around £120k top in 2029, so the opportunity to make a 4x if you time the market perfectly. People thinking we’ve already hit the bottom, or that we’re moments away from another rally are delusional imo. Trump will find another crisis to manipulate the markets with after he gets bored with Iran. Don’t give a fuck about ETH, it’s not worth bothering with any more imo

Successful_Ad_380

Why mock people? They're coming from a place of ignorance, everyone has to learn about BTC

ShockCatOnSol

Yes,absorption not distribution is the BTC read. BOME volume signature was textbook. SOL entry zone still valid, macro is the only real wildcard. The Grid is watching $80.5K BTC as the confirmation level that changes everything.

riscten

Thanks, just dug a little about this pattern, and you seem to be right, historical 82% success rate with BTC when backtesting. It's interesting. Are we seeing the inverse yet?

Timtim99x

agreed, the market is totally different than in 2022. With this pullback it does not feel this way, it feels just like 2022, but it is not. In 2022 we had a lot of forced selling, this time around STRC is a BTC accumulation machine, sucking the air out of the bears!

evandollardon

$98 on a $1k position in a month feels good, but it's noise in the context of where BTC has historically gone over a full cycle. Selling here means timing every re-entry correctly from now on, which is the hardest thing to do consistently. The holders who compound cycles don't sell the first green month. They park their position somewhere it's working like earning yield at a platform like nexo

mralzh

Every time bitcoin drops, all the "bears" come here to say: I told you! it’s going down!! xd and every time it goes up, all the "bulls" come here to say: I told you!!, nobody has a crystal ball lmao, you dont know if tomorrow its going to start dropping to 50k or rising to 150k. Do you believe in BTC? Okay, bet on it, but dont come to Reddit every time it moves a little with these kinds of posts lol.

VastJuice2949

Btc. Just buy BTC. Maybe ETH.

Bruglione

There are some ideas floating around already that a new BIP proposal for migrating BTC wallets could include a temporary change to blocks so that a fixed % of the blocksize can only be used for migration/upgrade transactions. This will put some strain on transaction costs, but it'll be manageable. That way we could ensure that everyone gets to migrate/upgrade within a certain timeframe, while also keeping space for regular transactions. It'll be up to the user if they want to pay a higher fee and be first in line to upgrade, or pay a lower fee and wait a couple months or even years.

mneymaker

Veeeery interesting and fresh framework. Imagine BTC becomes part of the defense budget spend through each country's Strategic Reserve. Sound reaaaaaally strategic, in that sense.

Live-Dot1624

I was able to buy BTC during the 66k price.

mvds74

Ask yourself what your goal was when you bought BTC. Are you in it for the long term, or for the quick win? And please, invest only money you don't need!

Smooth-Limit-1712

Wow, 815k BTC is just insane. Hard to even fathom that kind of accumulation. Thanks for sharing this news, really puts things into perspective on the big players moving silently in the background.

xanokothe

Print stocks, use money to buy BTC, pay dividends that are less than bank loans, rise and repeat

Mmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmm

Oh yeah … BTC went from 15k to 126k that was massive … me personally I’m pissed because I was once a whole bitcoiner and i also caught the bottom in 2022-2023..

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314_999

key take-away: - the board has high confidence this type of machine (Q- computers) will eventually be built - the real vulnerability is wallet-level (looking @ you BTC; an estimated 6.9 million coins are threatened - proof-of-stake chains have additional exposure (looking @ you ETH) - developing quantum-resistant alternatives is not the hard part, its rolling them out and with significant affects on transaction speed, storage, cost. (Analogy: Have fun putting a V10 into a Corolla. step 2: floor it ;) - migrating millions of wallets across decentralized networks, where every user has to take action, is a coordination challenge unlike anything traditional finance faces (looking @ you BTC)

MysteriousVisit5025

The best time to buy BTC was yesterday. The second best time is today man, right now.

DevelopmentKnown1937

I think, but do not know, because Saylor and co are buying up so much bitcoin along with the other institutions, they are literally breaking the cycle right now before our eyes. I think BTC wants to keep heading north from here however the ongoing geopolitical situation, if continues unresolved or straight of hormuz remains closed, could hold BTC back. I literally have no idea though of course but with less than 2 million BTC liquid now and more and more getting gobbled up in what will be a race - this might be the last time we see these prices in many years to come.

pop-1988

There's no supply shock. BTC trading volume is hundreds of thousands of BTC per day. The halving is a reduction in minting volume from 900 BTC per day to 450 BTC per day

Aerocryptic

BTC with a slightly higher high. Breakout or deviation?

pop-1988

Exclude everything that was launched as an airdrop by fraudulently inheriting the prior history of Bitcoin - BCH, BTG Exclude everything centralized by design - XRP and similar entrepreneurial projects Exclude everything centralized by outcome, because their blockchains are so bloated that nodes are expensive to run, which makes the node network very small - ETH and all the other so-called "smart chains" This leaves BTC, NMC, LTC, DOGE, XMR In recent years, apathy has led to developers drifting away from LTC and DOGE. They both still have large-enough node networks to be decentralized. But each of them is only one Core bug away from having zero nodes > the Price is volatile So? The price market isn't relevant to the question The software which runs on each Bitcoin node has no price-related functions The gold analogy is ludicrous

Rkey_

BTC is the global stablecoin, all currencies just fluctuate against it a lot.

Acceptable_Staff3105

BTC still leading & altcoin trying to catch up

Commercial-Ad90

Sold my C8 Corvette and bought 1 single bitcoin with it (sale price BTC overlapped by chance a month ago). Family thinks I’m crazy. We’ll see in 5 years.

DSMRob

Hmmm you seem to be missing alot on the real estate side. Tax write offs every year, 1031 exchanges, monthly cash flow. This is just a small part of it. While BTC is good to hold so is a real estate portfolio.

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

If there were almost no buyers and no sellers, a single buyer could purchase a dollar of BTC at the equivalent of $330k/btc and move the needle instantly. The only thing that keeps this from happening is a world with tens of thousands of buyers and sellers at any given moment. That's my philosophical thought for the evening.

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Post is by: ZebraStretch2327 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ss9jtm/i_absoutely_hate_cryptocurrency_now_i_despise_it/ I have a gamblers mindset. I am a degenerate gambler. I dont know when to take profits or to walk away. I acknowledge and accept this. Having said that, that should provide some clarity as to why i act the way i do. In very early 2024, I basically got "lucky" on a random memecoin. I only spent around $550 or $600 total for a massive bag. at the time i was unemployed , living with my mother after a bad breakup, with probably 5 grand to my name, and i was just messing around with what little savings i had while i was looking for new jobs. Well i found a random memecoin on reddit, as a "recommended subreddit" for another random memecoin i think i originally saw listed on this subreddit. So long story short, being out of work and not having anything to do most of the day, i deep dove into it and decided to buy some. So i bought a couple hundred million of it, around 250M in total, spent around like i said at most 600 USDT. the memcoin itself was on a sketchy exchange but it was new and there was no where else to buy it, aside from people mining it on mining dutch. basically the only supply was people from mining dutch selling it here for like 2 or 3 USDT per 500k at first, to really put in perspective just how cheap this was in the beginning. So, time went on and i more or less kinda put it in the back of my mind. I ended up getting a job which i still have today which im blessed for, and it provided financial stability. I randomly checked again on the coin in early july of 2024 and saw that it more or less hadnt changed much in value. i think i had lost 100 or 150 bucks, it was all just sitting on the exchange. Didnt really care about it or need it so just left it there. Didnt buy any more just left it. Then, late 2024 happened. The coin was picked up on some merged mining site and it absoutely went haywire. price went from like 5 to 7 USDT per million to something stupid like 1000 USDT per million. suddenly I see my bags go from 450 USDT to quite literally a quarter million dollars within the span of a couple weeks. Now i wasnt entirely stupid, I did sell around 25,000 USDT worth of it on the exchange, put into bitcoin, solana, also bought a PS5, a new laptop and couple nice watches. The rest, i left it on there, around 220M coins in total, so i sold more or less 30M Unfortunately, greed took hold of me, as it does to many people in this scenario. I decided to say F--k it, im just gonna keep it all. I ended up making a seperate wallet on the actual blockchain and i pulled out all the rest aside from 10M or so i was using as a swing trade bag on the exchange to get a couple 100K coins profit to add. So i moved like 210M - ish to this wallet, put the wallet dat onto a USB stick and basically stopped checking the price. It basically just kept going down with very little exception. From ATH in Dec 2024 all the way to present, the price has gone from 0.0016 all the way down to 0.000122, todays price. My bag is worth a hair under 30,000 USDT right now, which basically makes me sick. It makes me depressed knowing how i couldve better used that money. I have no one to blame but myself and my greed. At this point, i dont even want to sell it because im just disgusted by it all. The exchange i bought it on is now defunct and i have no transaction data aside from 3 or 4 transfers from coinbase to the exchange to buy it, which are lost to time. To some people 30,000 USDT is still a good chunk of change, but i just cannot fathom cashing out now. I guess the moral of the story is dont be stupid like i am/was. I wake up depressed most days thinking about it. I think about had i just converted it all to SOL or BTC and just kept it on a ledger or something id have an actual retirement fund, instead of basically smoke in mirrors. Financially im in a better spot now than i was 2 years ago, have a good savings, and just got a pay raise at my job, but this shit just haunts me at night. I wake up sometimes just angry and sick about it. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

silverous

The "where does the yield come from" question is the single most important question in all of crypto finance, and it's remarkable how rarely people actually ask it. The structure you describe, using new investor capital to buy BTC, then needing BTC appreciation to fund the promised yield, is a dependency chain. It works in bull markets and breaks in bear markets. That's not necessarily a scam, but it is a fragile structure. The honest framing would be: "STRCH gives you leveraged BTC exposure with an 11% coupon, funded by continuous dilution and BTC price appreciation." That's a legitimate product if people understand what they're buying. The problem is when it gets marketed as "safe yield." Anyone evaluating yield products should map the actual cash flows. If the yield requires asset appreciation or new capital inflows to sustain, it's not yield, it's a leveraged bet with extra steps.

LorenzoVonMatterh0rn

If this is the case I plan to have acquired a full BTC by the end of the year. I am skeptical about the 4 year cycle talk with the big time institutional buy-in

charmquark8

Strategy can do whatever the fuck with their BTC whenever they want. BlackRock does not have that freedom. That freedom is the difference between ownership and custodianship.

VastPresence2412

Ah yes, just send over your 24 silly little words and I’ll reconfigure your wallet to stake BTC! As easy as that!

Beneficial_Bet934

Gandi14: Hello I see you lose BTC because you think quick gain is the problem. Now you’re investing in it for the long term? Beneficial\_Bet934: Yes, I’ve already made plans for long-term investment. You? I hope to have the opportunity to learn more from you. Gandi14: I thought you were doing things wrongly. Do you know about private auto staking? Bneficial\_Bet934: I use automatic staking on the exchange. You? Gandi14: I do private auto staking on decentralized wallets and I make at least 15%–20% profit monthly. Beneficial\_Bet934: Good, sounds good. Can you show on-chain proof of your staking returns? Gandi14: I’m at work at the moment, maybe when I get home. I can also put you through if you would be interested. Beneficial\_Bet934: Good, I’m glad to hear that. Could you leave your contact information? Gandi14: WhatsAPP

devCheckingIn

BTC.D back over 60. Is Ben Cowen popping a champagne bottle?

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defeater33

Just stay with ETH and BTC 90% or greater of crypto investments. Use monthly candle chart to buy at lows and sell on the highs for longterm. Don't get greedy big swings mean a lot money while being safe.

VastPresence2412

While I don’t believe it is the most important part in my opinion, what I like the most about Bitcoin is that the control is in the coin holder. No one can freeze your account during the time we need BTC the most.

Few-Sky-976

I started out buying Butcoin, ten years ago, and only regret that I didnt buy more. My strategy was to swing trade Bitcoin by buying at below the current median price (buy the dip) then sell once it rose to 10 or 15% above the median. Rinse and repeat, hundreds of times. This strategy was designed to increase my holdings, as BTC was very volatile years ago. Of course I had to pay shirt term capital gains every year, but I didnt vare, just as day traders dont care. Now, we have better options for buying the top 4 cryptocurrencies, as the wallet storage issues and crypto taxes are a nightmare, frankly. Instead of opening a Coinbase or Gemini or other account, you can just open a Fidelity or Robinhood or Webull account instead (Webull has great offers for new accounts, too), and then simply buy ticker IBIT (Bitcoin ETF) or ticker ETHA (Ethereum ETF) or ticker GSOL (Solana ETF) or ticker XRP (Ripple ETF) after you deposit USD into your new brokerage account. A simple buy and hold strategy where you use Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) to buy any of these 4, will allow you to hold crypto in ETFs, where you DO NOT HAVE TO DO CRYPTO TAXES. Instead, the brokerage will send you a 1099-B form at the end of each year, which is 20X easier than a complicated crypto tax return. I know, we do them every tear, and we have to use crypto tax software to summarize our gains. And here's the deal. The gains are the same essentially, minus a tiny ETF fee. Also, Coinbase or whatever exchange charges you a fee for every buy and every sale, so it works out to be the same capital gains purchasing via a crypto ETF with a brokerage account. This is a huge advantage that only recently became possible, when Bitcoin ETFs were launched, followed by ETH ETFs, then Solana, then XRP So, this was not even possible 4 yeaes ago, but it is now. Also, with a brokerage account, you can also invest in Strategy stock (ticker MSTR) and its new preferred dividend stock "Stretch", (ticker STRC), which pays an amazing 11.5% monthly dividend based upon MicroStrategy's Bitcoin holdings. So, it's now easy to have a 100% crypto based investment strategy using a brokerage account. Do it with a Roth IRA and it's an even better strategy.

richardto4321

The 4-year cycle was already broken when BTC hit a new ATH before the last halving in 2024. That had never happened before. So it's probably safe to say that whatever comes next will be out of what we all thought was the "norm."

Unbalanced_Acctnt

Check out BTC Sessions on YouTube. Ben does a ton of free training videos showing how to use different wallets and how to get Bitcoin off exchanges.

SY0123

I guess this sub is very pro BTC. The difference in these calculations is the risk and that past performance is not a guarantee for future returns. Also a good rental property investor also typically makes money on the purchase; they look for properties that go under value. Houses are not like stocks and bitcoins, the bid ask spread is huge sometimes.

LushLustPin

Nice breakdown. That BTC absorption looks legit, feels like classic slow bleed before a move. I’m with you on BOME, that kind of volume vs mcap while price drips is exit liquidity vibes. SOL entry zone looks juicy too if macro doesn’t nuke everything.

Constant_Counter_595

Monero definitely has its place but yeah people get weird about privacy coins lol BTC is solid because it's simple and proven, but saying everything else is scam feels bit extreme to me. Some projects actually solve real problems, just gotta filter through all the garbage tokens

LuckyWinds

> Not anywhere near the amount it would produce profit wise. How much does it cost to crack a bitcoin public key? > he and others do this all the time, on stage etc. talk about it like a religion. Satoshi is their god and he can do no wrong. All others are false prophets, who are trying to steal ur money etc etc etc. I don't care what a single person does. There are crazy people in every industry. > Freezing wallets/funds is against satoshi's ideals. That's not the only option going forward, and for the record I'm against freezing wallets. > ??? saying BTC doesnt have on chain governance to solve this VERY PROBLEM is specifically BTC related and VERY much related to this Specific topic. Why would bitcoin need on chain governance to solve this problem? > I dont think you understand how quantum computers function, nor differ from the current system functions. You might have a rough idea of quantum states being 1 and 0 at the same time, but you very much dont understand how that translates to computer capability, and how that breaks almost all modern encryption methods we use globally. You didn't answer my question. So I'll ask again. So you think quantum will go from impossible to crack a single public key to being able to crack one in 9 minutes instantly? Like one day researchers will say "Yesterday we couldn't crack a public key, but today we can in 9 minutes" You think the technology will develop in this type of time frame?

gobbler_of_scran

I thought long and hard about this so its a toss up between these 2. you can store it in your head. its that wild you can store any amount of money within your thoughts(providing you know the code dont forget it kids) a "bank "account literally tied to your neurons. need a word for this gotta think outside of banks as we are so conditioned to see our primary store of value our bank account which is the promise of another person. and 2 Its truly the only object that is outside the system. Even Russian billionaire oligarchs get their bank account frozen and taken off them, but with bitcoin good luck I could have 0 cash in the systems eyes but have billions in BTC without them knowing

tidjou

it's leveraged BTC though. It could be optimal in a riskier portfolio to have some % of it in mstr. I agree it doesn't replace buying spot BTC

spankmytits

After years of painstaking analysis I have determined that BTC precisely follows the hot crazy matrix. https://youtu.be/XuI6GTY9eVc?si=OpKzPWX_8jIqjBio

Realistic_Support185

I am a carpenter. I can barely afford to buy any BTC 😂. I just DCA daily into BTC

Antique-Pie-5981

Plot twist: the mod is actually a BTC maxi and banned you for suggesting a BTC ETF instead of self custody.

ColdOverYonder

ETH cannot be frozen at the protocol level. L2s are different. BTC doesn't technically need consensus for a fork to happen. Though it can be argued that a fork without consensus is simply a shitcoin. You're right, they're not the same.