BTC

KupujeWeksleOdMeneli

What if I steal your private key and crate a transaction sending 0 to a burn address and pay all your BTC to the miner. Then I privately send this transaction to a miner. You don't know the transaction exists until it's already in a block. We share the profit with the miner.

Rickard403

Lighter. That's probably it honestly. If the coins has been around a for a cycle, it is a big gamble on how well it will do. I get the BTC only or BTC and ETH only crowd, but i don't expect either of those to even 4x. A 3.5x return (and yes that's great) is realistic for those. I do however want to stick about 25% in a 5-10+x coin. I think Lighter can do that.

IzmierdaNoGracias

The early turnaround profits are the ones that matter most in all BTC's history

DietOk3400

Will it be higher in the next 5 years? If yes i buy. Fed been printing for a whole, only a matter of time till its reflected in BTC price.

stay_safe_and_calm

Which transaction do you mean? Both transactions are standard bitcoin transactions which have their own TXs, signatures and public addresses. The transaction which is broadcasted first looks like a verfication of a simple message where the text is the TX of your BTC transaction which you have prepared before. Since this first transaction has a valid signature to the public address and the text it can be checked by nodes and miners such as a normal BTC transaction today. For the second transaction the process will be a bit more complicated. This will look like be a normal transaction today the BTC a a valid signature which matches with all transaction details. This check can be done by every normal node just as today. But miners have to check if they accept this transaction from the mempool for their next block. To accept it they have to check all - or at least 100 - proceeding blocks if they find a transaction which contains a text message which contains the TX of the second (the final) transaction. OK, this search will need additional computing power but it should be no problem for big miners to check all their transaction before including them in their block. This check is only applied if the real BTC transaction data. That means we will have 2 types of transaction. The first type of transactions do not contain any BTC transaction data because the simply contain the TX or a simple SHA256 hash of the final BTC transaction which will be broadcasted later. The second tyoe of transaction contains the real transaction data and look exactly as our BTC transactions today. But the miners will only accept this type of transaction if they find transaction of type 1 which contains the hash or the TX of the second type.

cryptokeyhole

Hasn't worked that way so far. IBIT's holders have been under water on only about 28% of its trading days, but those days account for about 54% of all the BTC that has ever left the fund. Twelve of its 20 biggest outflow days came below cost.

cryptokeyhole

The timing fits that. Going by IBIT's daily files, 18 of its 20 biggest inflow days since launch came after a week in which BTC had already risen, about 10% on average, and all 20 of its biggest outflow days came after a down week, about 6% on average. Whether those buyers were writing calls against the shares or just chasing the move, the files can't say.

VendettaKarma

Crypto outside of ETH, BTC and SOL is fucking cooked. AI will eat it alive and drain the funds before long. Nothing to do with the “Trump crime family.” When shit continues to go south after 2028 and if AOC is on the ticket are you going to blame it on hookers, bartenders and blow? Tired of this Trump shit in every post. He’s cooked and might not even make 2028 as president.

edwardzona

I'll be ok if BTC matches inflation.

LazyLifeguard

100x leverage long BTC. I had to wait for this confirmation here. Thank you!

OdonsOwn1966

Well, my DCA is a set it and forget it thing, so nothing much. I guess I will move the sats from the last month over to cold wallet. It's not like I need BTC to go up or anything, but if it was going to be down for a while, it'd be nice if stocks would undo the anal intrusion of the other day, still hurts to sit down.

Wh-h-hoap

>Major names claiming BTC is worthless and will be cracked quantumly are doing so to try to suppress price Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure all kinds of price manipulation exists, but I doubt this is one of them. Quantum - and increasing cyber attack capabilities in general - is a huge risk to all encrypted systems, not just Bitcoin. There are many who sincerely believe quantum is a risk especially to Bitcoin, and I assume this is due to Bitcoin's decentralized nature and thereby the complications in upgrading the network, including the question of legacy coins. It might also be due to a lack of knowledge, but I doubt intentional price manipulation is high on the list.

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Top-Care-8946

OK I agree with you but partly I would like to point to the fact that wealth is not only number on screen (BTC balance). If BTC loses it's value even temporarily then the wealth will be flipped over to the status of loss. It's all about timing when sell or when buy BTC. If realization has made at good point (you earned profit) then wealth is grown but if you "oversleep" the right moment then you have loss and nothing more. But even if BTC value will be raised then selling them for fiats might turn also into gross loss because inflation eats value of fiats in time which means nothing changes, only more zeros will be added to the price tags of the goods. So at the end BTC should be used as an alternative because fiat based monetary system might collapse in near future.

Top-Care-8946

BTC must be accepted as legal and equal payment option everywhere starting from buying goods from grocery store to pay taxes to state tax board. Currently I take BTC as future investment but I am not sure if and when it will be widely accepted in global means.

Nucleo_NKL

From the mining side, extreme fear is when you find out who was actually profitable. I run ASICs with a group of friends, and every time BTC dips like this the first question isn't "buy or sell", it's "what does each coin cost me to produce". Fear and Greed tells you the mood, not what to do. In my experience the people who get hurt are the ones whose plan only works above a certain price.

sabrina-m-779

BTC will spend 24 hours pretending the election was the only thing it cared about, then get moved by a whale sneezing.

Wise_Lion_9703

Holding BTC, NEAR and \~20% of portfolio actively traded by ai agents

yldf

Isn’t BTC flat for months now (75k+-15k)?

LamebyDefault

In this instance yes they would be better off as they would have access to their BTC “money”.

BinaryHippie

Maybe in hindsight but imagine going in such a huge dept for buying BTC.. His move was safer in terms of debt exposure and certainly not stupid. Also, an apartment worth $900,000 does not automatically let its owner borrow $900,000, especially if he already borrowed to buy it. The lender’s valuation, lending limits and borrower’s income all matter.

tnat0r

BTC itself not.

SilvrCrypt

900,000 / 400 = 2,250 BTC. Today @ $75k = $168,750,000.00

Vivid-Head-6484

To hell with BTC. Everything is fucked if we keep producing this caliber of civilians. Dystopia is the only possible outcome.

sylsau

**🚨 Your bank account isn't your money. Over 3 million people just learned that the hard way.** Imagine waking up, opening your banking app, and discovering that your money is gone. Not stolen. Not spent. Just completely inaccessible. This isn’t a hypothetical nightmare. This is exactly what happened on November 3, 2026, to the customers of Paraguay's Ueno Bank when the central bank seized it over critical solvency issues—locking up hundreds of millions of dollars, including $380M in state pension and healthcare funds. But it's not just banks. Your money is under siege everywhere: **🏦 BANKS:** SinoPac (Taiwan) got hit via a compromised supplier, Jambi (Indonesia) lost $8.8M, and a SIM-swapping/insider conspiracy in the US targeted $373M. **🌐 EXCHANGES:** Think your funds are safe on giant platforms? Binance suffered an attack affecting $6.34B on October 29, 2026. A month earlier, Bitget was hit for $387.5M. **❄️ COLD WALLETS:** Even air-gapped hardware isn’t invincible. A 2021 firmware flaw on Coldcard meant $116M (1,816 BTC) was silently drained from 5,200+ addresses without physical access. **📱 HOT WALLETS:** Connected to the internet? You are the chief security officer of a device sharing memory with every site, app, and link you touch. **The hard truth? There is no perfect storage solution. But there is a massive, life-altering difference between having a balance somewhere and actually having control over your money.** In a bank, you depend on the bank. On an exchange, you depend on the exchange. In a self-custodial wallet, you control the private keys. Bitcoin doesn't eliminate theft, scams, or technical bugs—but it gives you the ability to hold your own wealth without asking a third party for permission. **Stop asking where your money is safe. Start asking: Who actually controls it, and what happens when they fail?** Not your keys, not your coins. Trust less. Verify more.

ScrotusAmongus

It could just as easily not function as BTC historically has if the Fed had decided they want no part in it and turned it off with digital fed notes and draconian policy in the future. My thesis is that it has a place in future with more personal freedom for people. Maybe BTC ends up being a big part of why people can be a little less surveilled/tracked by their government in a futuristic dystopia.

DevilDrives

A store of value in a digital banking system... That's your thesis? You just explained what BTC is. How is that a thesis?

DevilDrives

BTC is no different. [6.4 Billion stolen ](https://www.aol.com/articles/6-4b-binance-heist-safe-030700000.html)

MusicIsVice1

100 BTC hands down!!

Front_Guarantee_9892

Sell the gravel and but BTC

CompetitionDouble420

35 here.. I only started taking BTC seriously early last year. Accumulating every day and learning as much as I can every step of the way. I'm waiting on a new SSD because I plan on building my first full node. Almost no one close to me gives af 🤣

WonderMental503

Peak information, and yes they will try to crack wallets and steal BTC instead of hacking the network itself, BTC is making advances in the security of it network trying to defeat AI on this race of quantum computational power.

menghao_ai

Good breakdown of the survivorship mechanics. The "nobody keeps score" part is the real finding — I ran a similar check on a smaller set of trading wallets and hit the same pattern: wins get screenshot, losses get deleted, so any public track record is an upper bound, not an estimate. A few things that made the tracking more honest if you want to tighten the methodology: 1. Log the call at timestamp with the exact wording, not a paraphrase. "BTC breaks 80k this week" vs "BTC trends toward 80k" are different claims with very different hit rates, and paraphrasing at review time silently grades on a curve. 2. Define "close" before you look at the outcome. I used a fixed % band around the target and expiry, which turned most "calls" into a boring no-call. That's the point — a lot of confident-sounding claims are unfalsifiable when you pin them down. 3. Track the size of the follow-through. An account that calls a pump but doesn't show a position is publishing content, not trading. Watch≠copy applies to accounts too, not just wallets. The base rate you found (1 in 3, worse for the loudest) roughly matches what I'd expect from anyone whose incentive is engagement rather than accuracy. The loudest being the most wrong isn't an accident — confidence drives clicks, and there's no penalty mechanism for a wrong call in an algorithmic feed. Until accounts post positions verifiable on-chain or via exchange history, public price calls should be treated as marketing.

Objective_Digit

> it'd be a terrible idea for the average Paraguay wagecuck to shovel their monthly salary and their savings into BTC to 'save' them from banking collapses. Would it be terrible? I don't think so. Not judging by how their currency performs.

WonderMental503

In fact this is false, the value of Fiat money is decreasin bye itself so even if BTC didn't exist, the value of Fiat would tend to go down in comparisson with other assets. The only way fiat money would be stronger is by increasing the PIB and slowing the print machine of the central bank

CONSOLE_LOAD_LETTER

Monero is actually what you think Zcash might be. If you think privacy and an actual decentralized network and development community is important, Monero is the purest to ethos cryptocurrency that is still substantially relevant at this time. Bitcoin to me is no longer true to ethos, as the mining hardware sector is basically owned/controlled by 3 ASIC manufacturers and BTC supply is increasingly ending up in control of fewer and fewer very large entities like governments, centralized financial institutions, and corporations. If BTC price crashes during a true global recession, I think we see massive exits and liquidations and very little grassroots support.

Character-Notice8580

yes. It's flawless. I suggest using Cashapp to pay with BTC to get 5% back instantly.

Sin-City-Sinner

OP idk how old you are but I’m 47- not far from the age where most people would like to retire. I am also not really of the generation that can get behind crypto like a lot of people my age, older, and even a bit younger, but I grew up with a computer in my home when I was a kid in the 80s, so I was on the actual internet before that and I was on BBS’s before AOL in the early 90’s.. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, crypto is not a scam, although there are scams out there, BTC is 100% NOT A SCAM NOT A RUG PULL, and if your nervous about that still, stay with BTC ONLY!! There are scam/rug pull coins out there and you CAN be scammed out of your BTC, but if you know where to go buy it, and how to store it, and DO NOT TALK NUMBER ONLINE EVER EVER EVER, so if you decide to take my advice, do yourself a favor and never post actual numbers again and delete this post and my advice to you would be – I know they say don’t try to time the market etc.. but with BTC rn is a strange time and 75k is a steal! IF OT WAS ME (this is not financial advice. This is just my educated opinion.) I would go all in on BTC now. You COULD watch it and see if it goes lower and it may, it may go down to 70 K but it also might go back up to 80 K and I don’t know how much you are willing to buy, but if it was me, I would spend the entire amount that you plan on investing in bitcoin right now. We ARE living in a weird time especially after the mid terms but BTC Mathematically WILL go up and up and up over time. You could use the BTC you buy (the more the better obviously) and stake it and make a nice passive income every day-week-month depending on how you go about it which what I would do, then your BTC will pay you extra income and it won’t be so “fixed”- your income.. and if your want to get really into max $ from BTC there is a method where you can even sell it after it peaks at the end of every bull cycle, watch the price drop back down 30-40-50% and then rebuy to gain extra BTC. I know that last part gets a little bit complicated, if you would like you could DM me, and I can point you in the right direction of where to get detailed instructions on how to make passive income from your BTC, it’s nothing I am promoting, it’s just what I would do if I was in the position you are OP. Otherwise just go all in and hold it. BTC outperforms the S&P500 it’s been around 20 years, it’s only went up.. from 0.007 or 0.7¢ to 125k in less than 20 years is insane!! If you doubt anything, I’m saying just look at the bitcoin chart, history keeps repeating itself over and over in four years cycles. If you are at all nervous about getting into crypto start with BTC, it’s what I started off with, and my plan was never to touch any other crypto lol… But hey, I made 5K my first year, got lucky and didn’t know much but I bought 5k of BTC right before it took off and doubled my $.. Welcome to crypto sir! 🫡 your in the right place!

Character-Notice8580

Use Cashapp and pay with BTC using your fiat balance. It's not a taxable transaction since you never held the BTC. The retailer doesn't know the difference.

Character-Notice8580

Pay with BTC using Cashapp at Square terminals and you get an instant 5% back.

WonderMental503

The amount of reward for every miner is goin to decrease, so if it is real, they could not mine more than half a million BTC even if they are million times faster. None of that is going to generate a bullish reaction of BTC price

let_me_in_QQ

You need to make six figures. Hey baby I got 100 BTC lfg. Get away from me nerd.

MN_hunter

You’re retired so I wonder what is your end goal in BTC? Do you have someone to pass it down to? Or, are you itching a need to gamble a little? If it’s just something to do - then no. You won’t make enough to flex. Go put $50 a week on a Robinhood account and play some volatile stocks. Or, buy different crypto that can swing 20-50% in a couple weeks.

BeachTime0734

I just thought a little money here and there into BTC to mess around with it might be better than dumping it into FanDuel each week to bet football.

BeachTime0734

Yeah I get that, but I was hoping for some honest feedback. Socking $25.00 to $50.00 a week is peanuts compared to the bigger money people invest in BTC, but it’s sure better than dumping $50.00 a week into FanDuel just to lose betting football every week. Maybe someone can give me some good advice here. We shall see.

fabtico

I don't like bitcoin at all. But for you I like it even less because you're retired and BTC is a extremely risky investment, I would recommend you some dividend ETF

mozy-rama

Congrats!! I was thinking of setting up a Roth IRA account with Fidelity to purchase FBTC. No capital gain tax & tax-free withdrawal during retirement. I already got a cold wallet for self-custody. Stragetically, I would like to reduce risk by not having all my eggs in one basket. Roth IRA setup to purchase crypto ETF seems to be the way. Fidelity is an excellent instuition. Congratulations again!! 0.1 is a milestone. Next goal target: 0.25 BTC. Good luck! Cheers!

cedarrapidsiaus

If Quantum computers are able to surprisingly hack the bitcoin network, the Bitcoin price will be the least of our worries. They'll more easily be able to hack all bank accounts, national classified security, pretty much any data across the globe. IDK if they are about to hack or not. My guess is not even close. Though I do believe the general public is always many years behind what actual technology is truly out there behind closed doors. Anyway even if there is a quantum threat its likely from government/military employment, and it wouldn't make a lot of sense to hack the BTC network. Hacking the BTC network wouldn't destroy nations or be something to ruin a government over. It would just make peoples value in BTC go down and their own if they own BTC lol. If you're a country like North Korea (or any country with malicious intentions), it would be in their best interests to steal and hoard BTC, not try to hack the Network itself. IMO 1. Bitcoin will make quantum improvements and be quantum secure without a quantum attack happening prior. 2. Major names claiming BTC is worthless and will be cracked quantumly are doing so to try to suppress price, get the general public to sell, and buy and hoard it themselves at cheaper prices.

Doritos707

Yes and in three different formats: 1- Lightning channels 2- sidechain layers that anchor themselves to Bitcoin and have a form or another of BTC and settle in the mainchain eventually 3- Bitcoin secures platforms and banks as a security layer.

MN_hunter

There will have to be a standard currency for electronic to electronic transactions. BTC I don’t believe it fits.

ImNotABot-Yet

Yeah, maybe hacking the hardware itself is quantum protected (maybe), but wouldn’t stop the coins being taken off the BTC network (which isn’t quantum safe) directly. It’d be sort of like storing your house keys in a safe at Fort Knox for extra protection without acknowledging that any average lock picker can open a household lock in under a minute without touching your safe.

MillerBlade2

No, but I do think people will still use BTC to circumvent inflation

Doggocomehe

Horizontal movement of the eye when reading charts has been proven to more accurately predict BTC prices over the last month, study suggests.

SurroundCultural6626

I read a lot of comments and took away ......BTC!

bananabastard

You weren't downvoted for asking about women in the space, you asked about "cute Bitcoin merch, miners, tech etc," Personally, I clicked the thread to see what that even meant. I still don't know what it means. I mean, you can get BTC cushions and plushies and keyrings and all sorts of merch. But I don't think that's going to bring anyone into the space.

bitusher

> but this is about bitcoin being used as a currency isn't it. Volatility is merely 1 important variable of at least 8 different qualities of a good currency. >shovel their monthly salary and their savings into BTC to 'save' them from banking collapses. In this specific situation the ideal situation is to diversify your investments and banks . Have at least 2 banks , and perhaps a money in a foreign bank if you can , have some bitcoin, have other investments if you can Why are you suggesting everyone has to have 100% of their money in Bitcoin ? > in stable countries, with surplus income to invest, sure, have at it. I am a latino and have lived in multiple latin american countries all my life and its somewhat insulting to suggest we don't have any savings . What is harder for most of us is to have access to USA equity markets , which makes Bitcoin a godsend.

blik122

Sure, but this is about bitcoin being used as a currency isn't it. Bitcoin may well be a decent investment - I certainly hope so. But it's not a decent currency, not at current volatility levels anyway. Basically, as the title of this thread is about the recent Paraguay bank collapse - it'd be a terrible idea for the average Paraguay wagecuck to shovel their monthly salary and their savings into BTC to 'save' them from banking collapses. Most of these people barely make rent as it is and couldn't afford a sharp drop, which happens literally every year at some point. For people like us - in stable countries, with surplus income to invest, sure, have at it. But it's surplus income, not the mortgage payment. South Americans generally don't have much surplus income, if any.

ScrotusAmongus

I have a similar thesis that involves Bitcoin becoming a store of value in a digital banking system where we have paper currency (maybe) , digital fed dollars (more likely) and BTC will be....either completely stonewalled or the apex asset. But with institutions buying it up I think it could be the ultimate "outside of the system" reserve...

LittleTwo9213

These people aren’t investing I. The market anyways and Nvidia is still a 4 trillion dollar company. I think BTC will be fine without them.

Odd_Oath

First wallet? Bitkey , Second wallet Trezor Safe 5, BTC edition.

MakCapital

It's a network that failed at scaling for tokenization and is now positioned as "digital silver". Hyperliquid and Solana took tokens and token based revenue. Ethereum now takes trades off BTC lows with privacy a likely future narrative.

stay_safe_and_calm

If you are careful, your BTC could be as private as your XMR. Just buy your BTC on non-KYC exchanges or DEXes (such as hyperliquid) and use for every single transaction a new address. Seperate your UTXOs you bought from KYC exchanges from your non-KYC UTXOs.

Several_Razzmatazz71

"The theory that you can invest into stocks or bonds to preserve purchasing power is completely flawed. A single individual can, but not the people as a whole. When someone invests then someone else has to absorb the losses of inflation, since money changes hands only and the money supply does not change." That's false, people have different incomes, people also invest by starting businesses, I mean what do you think you are doing? You literally take your fiat currency you earn to buy BTC. What you think that isn't an investment? "What you promote is to cover one crime (fraud & theft by a few) with another crime (socialism). To criticize that has nothing to do with "doomerism"." It is doomerism, this isn't new, it wasn't new 20 years ago, it wasn't new 100 years ago, it wasn't new 500 years ago, it wasn't new 1000 years ago. etc. "There are plenty of other issues with fiat currency that always lead to their demise." "There are plenty of other issues with fiat currency that always lead to their demise." Like what?

canada11235813

Funny, was having this exact conversation with my financial advisor three days ago... the issue being that when I got into BTC more than 10 years ago, I loaded up and have held it since. And while it was a conventional 3 to 8% of my diversified portfolio at the time, it's now grown to be like a tail wagging a dog. And properly-diversified portfolio is designed to hedge against a lot of things, all of which are ineffective if the volatile swings of BTC outweigh the rest of it. Accordingly, I was advised to sell some BTC (same discussion I've been having every 6 months for years) to de-risk things. And, as always, I said no... because even if BTC crashes to zero, I'm still ok. And I'm a strong believer in this thing, and while I guess it'd make sense to sell some of it one day, it won't be to by TSLA or IBM or MSFT shares.

NHLBigFan

BTC is roughly 1/15 but will be 1/10.

HugeLarry

10% is my target also. I never sell to rebalance, I just DCA into other things when BTC is overweight.

Doppelapfel007

80% FTSE Global All Cap 15% BTC 5% gold

kaliki07

100% BTC

SupaGhost345

BTC makes up about 8% of my portfolio, but this number has been increasing. I think i’ll hit 10% by year end and I only see this number increasing the next 5-10 years

Drevinth

Bitcoin is only around 10% - 13% of my wealth. I also hold some stocks as well as my BTC

devCheckingIn

That's true, but you're not going to get rich on steady, compound growth either. Unless you're already rich. People gamble with these shitcoins for the same reason people gambled with BTC early on.

Wise-Statistician172

Or, and hear me out, you HOLD it, because it is an *asset*, and as it matures in value, you borrow against it so that you can acquire more assets. Like grown ups do. BlackRock, Vanguard, BNY Mellon, Fidelity, State Street, Bank of America, pensions, sovereign wealth funds, the govt of Russia, etc., are not acquiring bitcoin because they are speculators. They are acquiring it, to the tune of millions of coins in 2026, because it is the apex asset. They are acquiring it slowwwly because, if they “spook the herd”, there will be panic / FOMO and the price will skyrocket. In the meantime, they manipulate the market and pay off media to hand wave and say, “nothing to see here”, “bitcoin going to zero…”. By sowing fear in the minds of retail — you — they purchase as much as they can *cheap*, before it moves to its intrinsic value. What is its intrinsic value? Who knows? In this year’s prospectus, BlackRock placed BTC ad the #1 rated maturing asset class for the next decade. There are currently approx $1.8QUADrillion in held assets worldwide. Bitcoin is the *only one* that is finite and diminishing. BTC will be 1/1,000,000th of a percent. Then 1/1,000th of a percent. Then 1/10th of a percent of all assets held. You / we are just SO FKG EARLY to the game, there’s no one yet in the stadium. EXCEPT FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYERS.

PotentTurnip

Right now I'm about 70/30 equities & BTC. Equities are all of 5 ETFs that capture the broader market.

iLikeEggzzzzz

5% BTC. 95% Fart Coin. I know what I got.

blackjackn

The usual. 401k with contributions up to my match, 529 for the kids, house w/ mortgage, small amount of physical gold...but any extra I throw into BTC.

Longjumping-Link-455

Never crunched the numbers but looks like I'm 20% in on BTC

BlacksmithPlane3988

BTC is 2% of portfolio. 2-5% cash. Rest are stocks and bonds.

44193_Red

I mean, the Clarity Act dead after Democrats all voted against moving BTC forward.

Savings-Following232

I rebalanced last month heading into the mid terms, 20% BTC/75% Bonds/ 5% stock. The bonds are through a debt fund, mostly treasury bonds that have performed surprisingly well. I’m going to shift that into a slightly more aggressive fund (VWENX) possibly next week after the inflation report Tuesday.

loc710

Greed will always win if you let it. Just buy BTC and don’t be a dummy

Wooden_Speaker_8440

60% MSCI world 10% Emergents 20% BTC 10% Gold

loc710

90% BTC 10% bills

Bongressman

BTC buy signal.

Bongressman

S&P, BTC spot and IBIT.

Wo0odi

Source? Data centers maybe, but that has nothing to do with BTC

PuzzleheadedBell4057

Equally BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, LINK, HYPE, ZEC, DOGE, TAO, NEAR.

loc710

BTC is the only crypto, there is no second best

pirstaef

Lol, you can't understand what it feels to own BTC

44193_Red

but now they're actually trying to block BTC and Data Centers

Alexander-305

Extreme Fear is a useful label for the mood, but I would not treat 25 as a buy button on its own. The index mostly lags what already happened: a sharp dump, ETF redemptions, and equity beta spilling into crypto. By the time it prints Extreme Fear, a chunk of the forced selling is already in the rear-view. That is why "buy every Extreme Fear print" has mixed follow-through across cycles. What I care about more than the number: - Whether $75k holds a few daily closes instead of just one bounce candle - Whether BTC ETF flows stop bleeding for more than a day or two - Whether leverage rebuilds into the bounce (that usually means another flush is still on the table) Sitting is a valid third option when the setup is "sentiment is washed, structure is not." The index tells you people are scared. It does not tell you the selling is done.

jacd03

BTC mainly tbh, i will definitely buy SOL under $80 and HYPE under $70, let's see.

GalaxyDefender1x

I think BTC will be at $150k in 2029 12 months or more after the halving. That is the most I see it climbing.

DeadPhish-710

"Not sure there is anything to be excited about. The price of litecoin did not increase after the last three halvings. In fact, it dropped every time. Also if you look at a chart of the LTC/BTC ratio you will see it has spent the last 15 years trending towards zero. I would not be the least bit surprised to see litecoin continue that trend and underperform the rest of the market like it always has."

Romanizer

Yes, but when the original owner signs a RBF transaction sending the complete wallet as fee to the miners, the thief loses BTC by outbidding, so he loses the stolen BTC as well and ends up with less BTC than before.

cocotalouca

Yes but it’s stolen BTC, the thief doesn’t care about fees. Irs not their btc to begin with. Your theory doesn’t hold in the sense that it’s better, in the thieve’s perspective to earn some BTC, even losing half of it to fees, than nothing. Fees are no protection at all.

Alexander-305

One thing I'd add to the checklist is the perp side, because it tells you who is behind the bounce. Funding on BTC perps is basically flat right now, around +0.005% per 8h or lower on the venues I checked this morning, with price near 75.8k. So this recovery isn't being driven by leveraged longs paying up. That cuts both ways: there's no crowded long position to flush, but there isn't much conviction either. What would convince me: a reclaim of the 76.5k area on spot-led volume while funding stays roughly flat. If price grinds up and funding jumps at the same time, that's leverage chasing, and those moves usually get faded. On the other side, a break under the 74.7k wick with funding flipping clearly negative means shorts are piling in late, which more often sets up a squeeze than a clean continuation. Not advice, just how I'd separate a real higher low from a bounce.

AbSphere

J'ai un PRU (Prix de Revient Unitaire) actuellement de 68 350 €, et je détiens pour l'instant 0,0393 BTC. Ça fait que un mois que je me suis mets. Je suis entrer à 72000€. Que me conseillez vous, je fais achats reventes avec un take profil ou accumulation ?

Little-Ad8633

I bought 10 BTC 10 years ago for 600 each. $6000 now worth 750,000. So yes, you can make a ton if you remember time in any market always beats timing the market. Sure I have had great losses and incredible gains but I just ignored it. I spent the money for it and the money was gone. I am now retired with a healthy portfolio to live on without touching my BTC. It is my go-bag if I ever need it, but I can also can leave a legacy for my children and grandchildren to help them through life. Start young and have an infinite horizon and you will win the game. This is the way!

bonkersbongoo

The eip-7702 is an ethereum feature. The didn’t steal btc by exploiting it. BTC was stolen by other ways. Maybe next time ask your AI to write something that makes sense?

Ok_Golf_6467

BTC, ETH, SOL, UNI, HYPE, and sprinkle in a couple AI or meme fun plays. The big thing being with alts, is taking profit and rolling it back into BTC to store