BTC

Patient_Craft2195

The energy thesis is correct and the layered plays are: * Safe: Constellation (CEG) — Meta/Microsoft PPAs, nuclear * Higher beta: Vistra (VST), Talen (TLN) — AWS/Meta contracts * Supply chain: Cameco (uranium), GE Vernova (turbines) * **Sleeper trade for crypto folks: BTC miners pivoting to AI hosting** — Core Scientific (CORZ), Iris Energy (IREN), TeraWulf (WULF), Cipher (CIFR), Hut 8 (HUT). They already have the power, the cooling, the grid interconnects. Building new takes years; miners are available today. CORZ hosts CoreWeave already. Real question for you: are you trying to play this through utilities/safe names (CEG, dividend, defensive) or through the higher-torque miners (CORZ, WULF) where the AI repricing is still in early innings? Different trades, different sizing.

yesdaddy_____

Yeah, I read about basically every rooting method will wipe my data. It's been so long, I can't remember why the app isn't there anymore. But when I look through my other android devices. It shows all the transactions I've made. Like 900, 460, 760, 140 BTC etc. I'm thinking, maybe when switching phones in the past. (I don't recall the process) it would move the apps over to the newer phone. Unlike nowadays we have smart switch that basically moves everything to your new device. I'm almost positive it was running 2.3.4 I could try and check the SD for a back up file but it's been so long I'm not entirely sure that's the original SD card. Or if I even had an SD card in the phone in question to begin with.

joos_hubert

I get the calmer feeling, but the loan only helps if the numbers stay boring. Borrowing against BTC can be better than panic selling for a planned cash need, but it should not become a way to ignore downside. The two things I would watch are starting LTV and how fast you can react if BTC drops again. A 20% dip feels different when it moves you from comfortable to margin-call territory. For me the clean setup is low LTV, cash outside the loan, and a clear plan to repay or add collateral without touching the rest of the stack. Otherwise it is still just selling pressure moved to a later date.

pommesUNDwurst

This is ridiculous. I have been in the Game since 2017. Have been following the 4 year cycle since 2018 (I think Plan B was one of the first who talked extensively about it). I estimate that I made atleast 4-5 times the profit by not HODLing through the bearmarkets and will be able to accumulate more BTC. The cycle will break eventually. But don't try to be the hero who calls it while it is obviously intact. It's downfall was prophesied since 2021 and look where it got us. I will start my DCA in a couple of days/weeks from now. Haven't had any BTC since Nov 3. Good luck.

SeemedGood

Blockstream’s intentional corruption of BTC’s significant first mover advantage at a key moment in crypto development.

hatemakingnames1

They should sell 32 BTC right before every large purchase

eckstuhc

First, I highly recommend you refrain from any conversation via private messages or DMs. Keep things public, that way (hopefully) someone can call out if you are being scammed. Second, lets clarify: the funds do not "live" in the phone the way you think they do. That wallet in 2010-era was pre-HD, so you are correct there is no seed phrase, but the funds "live" as individual private keys. All funds are "on" the blockchain, your keys just enable you to sign for the corresponding public address (access the BTC). The good news - individual private keys are the easiest to import, those keys can be swept directly into Electrum without any other tooling. And you are also correct in that rooting does have the potential to factory reset your phone. Most rooting paths with /data which is where your keys exist. "Unrevoked" root uses an exploit in HTC-based devices that don't touch the data partition, but from what I know this is only HTC devices and pretty sketchy. I wouldn't go this route unless necessary. So ... questions: 1. What device make and model do you have? And how many? 2. Do you know what version of Android is running? (guessing 2.x given 2010-era) 3. Do they have SD cards or integrated storage? 4. Why can't you access the application itself? (phone doesnt boot, locked, app doesn't open, etc.) The truth: Depending on your make/model, I could help pintpoint a potential exploit-based, non-wiping root method, but it's a long shot. If you have access to the storage (SD card) you need to look for a file beginning with 'bitcoin-wallet-backup'. Historically these are saved to SD cards' /Download folder. Unfortunately, this is a manual backup that would've been completed prior, and prompts for a backup password when set (another hurdle if you do have one). Answer the above questions and I'll let you know what else can be done.

EstimateIll4262

You literally have NOTHING now. and without help, will still have none of those 900BTC. think about what your mindset is. Worst than Walter White. When the Aryans took all his money barrels except one. The difference is. He had his money and they took most of it. You have nothing right now. Good luck. maybe a random Redditor will give you steps to unlock them.

yesdaddy_____

Thanks for the reply. I do understand what you're saying. But than again most people don't have the knowledge of the original Schlidbach BTC wallet and how it works. Everyone just thinks of the current way BTC works and is, like Kracken & Coinbase etc

DankShibe

Doge is at the same level as it was when BTC was 35k last cycle . Very bad . I hope Elon will do something so I can sell and finally start building my doge wealth with swing trading in the following cycles . I want it to be at the 50 cents range before I sell , that’s the number I beed to be able to swing tons of doge later on and rinse and repeat. I haven’t done that in the last 2 cycles but I need to start doing it now .

yesdaddy_____

It's not greed. I have been recommended Joe grand before. Maybe I'll actually contact him. Than again I can't shake the thought of giving someone my phone with 900 BTC and them not taking a good portion or all together saying "there's nothing on the device" stealing it, in otherwords. Sorry if im coming off as rude or anything.

EstimateIll4262

So you are scared of an expert helping you? and are asking randoms on reddit? If i had 900BTC that i cant access at all. I would give 899 of them away to get something out of this. Right now you have NONE. Your greed will get you nothing

yesdaddy_____

I have thought of that. But if i have lets say.... 900 BTC. I feel like they would scam me.

EstimateIll4262

There is a guy who makes YT vids on hard BTC recoveries. If you actually have hundreds on BTC locked up, It would be worth it to get in touch with him. Or someone similar. and pay him well.

OkIncident4458

Haha yeah you keep on buying! So people like me can sell higher, cause that's what's BTC IS all about, right?

Bluejumprabbit

BTC will stay relevant as long as blockchain and crypto stays the same. There are opportunities right now to develop, improve, and participate on blockchain it's just that it's overlapped by price action

Upstairs-Ant-3917

I mean, I bought in even when BTC was at its peak in Oct 2025. So now i just feel like it's literally on sale

Agitated-Bird-4333

Everybody is focused on the 32 BTC that was sold and ignoring the 1550 BTC that was bought yesterday, June 8

robomartin

People here don’t seem to understand the product. It actually shouldn’t matter if Kraken went bankrupt. It’s a defi set up using tokenized BTC. And they set up an on chain wallet for you for which you can take over the private key if you choose. It’s risky for other reasons though. Smart contract risks. Custodial risk on the tokenized BTC. If you read up how they get the yield it is a leverage strategy, which is inherently risky. The tokenization process possibly creates tax issues. Would I do it? Yeah I wouldn’t dip my toes in I think and just see how the process works

templatexyz

No, no way, uh-uh, forget it! Tell them to find another way to accomplish their loan goal. Your friend didn’t learn from the last time they had money woes. Keep your BTC, keep your friendship. Don’t FAFO!

SellaPipeYO

Yep, buy more, run a node, signal for BIP110, transact in BTC! Never been a better time to be a bitcoiner

postexoduss

If you have disposable income yes, but you might want to check out r/personalfinance to understand what disposable income is. Do you have an emergency fund? is that 3x your monthly income? Do you match your 401 and have that maxed? In the past btc can be like winning the lottery very slowly, and you need the mental fortitude to do that, assuming we are all reading the tea leaves correctly. You didn't give enough information to know how well off you already are. That said, this is a fire sale, and in 4 years you might not see btc this low again. BTC has been my top preforming asset. Been here since 2013, and I dont sell. Your best "bet" is to DCA into it, as you would with any other account.

Electronic-Rate5497

This is my first year holding BTC and actually happy where I got in and almost to 1 BTC

Sad_Experience_2516

That’s a good point and probably one reason ETH ETFs don’t behave exactly like BTC ETFs. If the product doesn’t capture staking yield, there’s a real opportunity cost for longer-term holders. I still think ETF flows matter for directional demand, but I agree the no-staking structure makes the ETH ETF trade less clean than the BTC one.

Bagmasterflash

BTC may be a zombie coin but there is still plenty of value to extract from retail with it.

OwlInteresting3239

One of the most fascinating things to watch are the people who follow MSTR religiously. It's truly a religion: whatever Saylor does, it was genius. The $100M that went towards the cash reserve diluted shareholders and reduced BTC per share. The MSTR subreddit is littered with comments about how only BTC per share matters, but as soon as the metric decreases, they are all silent.

Lunashinez

These are businesses mining Bitcoin, not buying. Here's one article about it, might help. [BTC miners switching to AI computing](https://www.wired.com/story/bitcoin-miners-pivot-ai-data-centers/)

Subtraktions

>He can borrow against with BTC as the collateral and the underlying asset growth can essentially give him negative interest rates. Problem with that is the assumed underlying asset growth.

weldor2

As long as you can service the loan while BTC goes sideways or even down it should be fine. Would be a no brainer if interest rates were a bit lower

Lunashinez

Bitcoin miners are switching to AI instead of mining Bitcoin since BTC's value dropped

Upstairs-Ant-3917

i hope the bottom is closer to 35 - 40 Then BTC is on sale!

TurnAr0und2

Unless were time traveling to 2012 I think the hype train has come and gone for BTC even if it goes to 200k which it won’t anytime soon enjoy life buy that car and practice semen retention peace love and tranquility

Suitable_Acadia_190

Strategy buying is not a price catalyst. It is a demand floor. Saylor does not time entries. He accumulates on a schedule regardless of structure, which means this tells you nothing about where price goes next. What it does tell you is that the supply being absorbed at this level is not coming back to market at a loss. 845,000 BTC held by a single corporate entity with a stated policy of never selling is a structural fact, not a sentiment signal. The more interesting number in that post is the $1.0 billion USD reserve. That is dry powder, staged and ready. The buying is not done.

Ok_Computer1417

It’s widely assumed that he’s trying to build to be THE Bitcoin treasury. He can borrow against with BTC as the collateral and the underlying asset growth can essentially give him negative interest rates. Alternatively he can loan the BTC and the underlying asset growth can be far more lucrative than normal rates.

HughHonee

This is probably still my favorite playout that I've seen. Not mine, but I've followed it since it came out, zoomed out looking at it big picture its pretty solid https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/Ce2BvgDu-BTC-Wave-Harmonics-within-the-Nile-River-and-the-Prophecy-of-Ra/

submarinefarm

Sure he does. If I had 8 BTC I simply would not be wasting my body doing electrician work 😅

joatmone

Swing Trading! BTC

Strange_Mud_8239

Not just that. Offer a 5% tax discount if paid in BTC

aferaci

Because they don’t understand that the whales manipulate the market down so they can buy low. They want instant gratification and that’s not how investing works. They seem to still believe that someone can become a millionaire by making a very small investment in BTC. Those days are long gone and most all of us missed out on that.

JOSS_KOLDOP

Compra en 80.000, en 50.000 o de 30.000. Dentro de 10 años seguro será un x8. Está en la naturaleza de BTC.

No_Toe710

Take the loan at say 50% LTV then use a portion of proceeds to immediately pay down loan to 40% LTV. If the loan has a liquidation LTV of 80% then you are now safe from liquidation down to a BTC price below $32k. This assumes you do not use all of the proceeds to buy more BTC today. Then turn around and over collateralize the loan. If you did this, then your 40% LTV loan would be safe down to a BTC price below $23k.

Dazlik

If you want to mine BTC, your best bet would be cloud mining. I myself am with the platform gomining . com. They have been on the market for over 5 years. I myself have recovered my initial investment and am just cruising now. If you have questions, you can contact me directly The best thing you can possibly use is to start a bit small. Make sure to use my code for a 5% off your first miner. WTW703N otherwise, start small, see how you like it and then proceed. I have a 1500th farm and I am very happy with gomining

Smooth-Limit-1712

Wow, that's a seriously huge BTC move to share! Someone's making some big plays out there with that kind of capital. Always fascinating to see these strategies unfold and how they impact the market. Good looking out, man!

DankgisKhan

We shall see. In my opinion, it is borderline impossible for BTC to see an mcap above 3-4 Trillion. But we will see.

xtremeironings

It was very hard to mine in 2014. Unless she mined alts and then sold for BTC, she probably mined nothing. You need to find the pool she signed up for and exchanges she used etc. look at her emails during that year

FunWithSkooma

what principle? anyone can buy BTC, there are no permission needed.

LiquidityCompass

Wouldn't creating a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve be a much bigger catalyst? Accepting BTC for taxes is interesting, but a government becoming a long-term buyer and holder of Bitcoin seems far more significant. One changes payment options. The other changes demand.

ShittingOutPosts

I hope you realize you wrote five paragraphs against a claim I never made. I said dumping my alts for BTC was the right call. That became "every country will run on a Bitcoin standard" somewhere in your own head, and you spent the whole comment swinging at it. That's a fight you picked with yourself. The security budget part is the bit you think makes you sound smart, so slow down. You heard that fees eventually replace the block subsidy, didn't follow it, and landed on "so the 21 million cap is getting changed." Those are not the same thought. One is a real question about the fee market. The other is something you invented and then congratulated yourself for. The cap holds because the difficulty of breaking it is a major aspect of why the whole thing even exists. That refusal is the product. You're pointing at the foundation and calling it an artefact of a formula. "An asset that's already mostly distributed." Read it back. By that logic gold never worked, land never worked, nothing scarce that someone reached first ever worked. You didn't think it through. You liked the sound of it. C’mon man. Antonopoulos wrote about the code. Ammous wrote about money. Recommending the second one isn't joining a cult, it's reading something relevant to the conversation. One can enjoy reading from both authors. I merely recommended The Bitcoin Standard because it’s easier for beginners to understand, and provides a solid foundation. Your comment history line is what people grab once the argument already got away from them. Answer what I wrote instead of where I wrote it.

MotanulScotishFold

To me this is Bullish as if the demand for more BTC will continue and hashrate going down, it only increaes the price of the current circulation of BTC due to scarcity.

Tw33die84

I'm far from a crypto expert and mostly reside here for the lols. But it seems wrong to me that one person, company or entity should own so much BTC. Sure, anyone can buy anything if they pay enough and people are willing to sell.. But I dunno. Just seems wrong somehow. Against the principle thst BTC was built for? I'm probably wrong tho.

Pal3-Assignment

Nahh, just look at BTC down 40% and Nvidia is up 45% in the last year. I suppose you could say crypto is bolstering AI from smart money leaving crypto and pouring into AI because that is the new hotness like my comment said.

I_Like_Tartar_Sauce

Guy tanks the market by selling a tiny fraction of his BTC stash, then buys more at a lower price. 🤷‍♂️

-M00NMAN

BTC sub 40k Q4.

cepheids

There has been flash crashes that were only survivable with LTV < 13% - Binance BTC crash in 2021 for example. So, I guess it depends on your definition of conservative.

Fluffy_Connection644

I thought 1BTC = 1BTC. Why are you talking about fiat? Bag holding?

goofygooberxiv

I see BTC I buy BTC simple as

Rafiki_84

BTC will drop to 52-53k around 09.10.2026 and it will be the bottom. Waiting for date to buy. Same old shit.

ShitcoinJoe

Yeah I think so. But I see it as a gamble, better buy BTC (but he asked for alts here)

jkeegan123

They can't afford to be invested. In anything. And that's fine, life is hard... But they should admit that they can't afford to be invested, sometimes expenses exceed the ability to invest for a short time, there is a season for everything... Including BTC.

Fabulous-Stick-973

I got a friend that bought 5 BTC at 33K average cost - sold at $102K to buy his house - then for a brief moment cursed at himself when it topped $120K plus. These days he's been grinning ear to ear as he been buying back in mid 60's. Lesson to be learned ... timing your life is better at times then timing the market.

Squirrel_McNutz

Not sure if sarcastic but yeah, I legit think Hype is one of the only valid cryptocurrencies. It has legit revenue & usage which almost no other crypto has. At this point I’m pretty much only BTC and Hype. Some eth & sol I’ve been holding and will continue to hold but I’m not interested in buying more.

TheGreatCryptopo

Sells 32 BTC tanks the market with piss soaked paper hands folding like Trumps diapers and panic sell. Buys back cheaper a week later. Rinse and repeat.

alwxcanhk

Bitcoin is supposed to represent freedom to buy, sell, keep, transfer, give, … etc without anyone asking why. I have BTC and I have bills and prefer to sell now and settle than go to jail. It’s my BTC.

HSuke

It would be cheap if they had used cash reserves to buy it. Instead, they used up their cash reserves to pay back a 0% loan prematurely last month, and then used more MSTR to buy less BTC.

whetherwhether

MSTR usually buys their BTC early in the week and BTC was crashing all through last week, especially into the weekend.

Educational_Cable405

Happened to me on r/btc a few years back. Posted a chart showing BCH bleeding against BTC and it was gone in maybe 20 minutes, flagged as concern trolling. One thing I learned the hard way: screenshot your own post before you put it anywhere near a coin's home sub, because the removal log is private and you'll never actually get told why.

Mister_Way

The narrative that the whole market collapsed because Saylor sold 32 BTC was always obviously a highly regarded narrative.

DankgisKhan

BTC last peaked at an mcap of 2.4 Trillion, or roughly the market cap of Amazon. To get BTC to 200k, we need something in the neighborhood of 4 Trillion dollars, or about 10% of the NYSE. These are gargantuan numbers. Plenty of room for growth? We're talking about something with no industrial value that somehow managed to achieve a market bigger than the GDP of several industrialized nations combined. There is far more downside risk than there is for growth. The sky is not falling. Crypto will always be around, but I think people are really underestimating the downside risks and overestimating BTC's value in the global financial marketplace.

Own-Huckleberry-1853

**Strategy (MSTR) just bought 1,550 BTC today! If you know you know…**

ShittingOutPosts

Reading The Bitcoin Standard. Converting all of my alts to BTC was the best decision I’ve made in this space.

Fine_Employment_3364

If you're looking to buy BTC, ask yourself why. Nobody is buying it to use as actual currency. The answer is always to sell it for more at a later date. This is why BTC is just a speculative asset at this point. The Greater Fool theory. We've seen how it behaves every 4 years. No surprises coming. The days of Making 10x by holding is over. It's a failed currency. Hell yeah you can still make some profit trading it, but you are not getting rich off it.

BakedGoods

they sold $181Mill of MSTR, with that they bought $101Mill of BTC and the rest ($81Mill) + other cash was added to their reserve.

Blackiris-Code

BTC reads your mind!

HSuke

How does buying BTC increase their cash reserve at all? It cost them more to buy now than before when MSTR price was much higher.

ThisIsNotDre

Bitcoin is only free from such rtlegulations if there's an actual BTC marketplace. That basically hasn't existed since Bitcoin actually became a high value asset, other than like wallet swapping to Monero for special markets, any "crypto" purchase is basically just being handled in fiat at the end point. The era of sending someone hundreds of Bitcoin for a pizza is the closest it was to actually serving its original purpose.

Scarab702

Yes!!! BTC never goes in a straight line. Whether up or down. We're in a bear market. Lower loading. How low? No one knows exactly.

MuscularFrog13

It’s more so I’ve noticed boomers are more prone to not listen to advice from younger people and more prone to extreme arrogance. All of 2016 and most of 17 i was telling my coworkers to buy BTC. One boomer said I’d “lose all my money and have to be a Walmart greeter”. Another didn’t buy until(against my advice) the ATH in 2021 was reached and then sold in 22 for a massive loss. Again, against my advice. The second one is bitter about his losses and swore off BTC, like it’s bitcoin’s fault he lost money. Even at 2021 ATH he would have nearly doubled his money if he held until 25. They have no resolve in an asset that requires conviction and faith in its fundamentals and concepts.

FitCompetition1804

No, because I had a very small position that I bought in 2022 at $18k when I didn’t know much about BTC besides knowing that was going to be a great point of entry to test things out. Sold about half a few years later to see how that worked. I then actually educated myself last year and have been waiting for this bear market to enter. I started DCA’ing in February and have a decent amount of cash ready for limit orders starting in the low $50k range and working down, with orders getting larger as they descend. I self custody now in cold storage and run my own node, this is the year I’m actually accumulating. No regrets, except for wishing I started this earlier in prior cycle bear markets. Hoping for at least a full coin by the end of the year. If it dips well into the $40k range, maybe 2 or close to that. I’m holding for at least 15 years with no intention to sell.

DankgisKhan

Man, no government is printing the tens of trillions of dollars needed to sustain 2-3x all time highs for BTC again and again. We will be lucky to get one more big wave that takes BTC to 150-200k, but that will require Wall Street going gung ho on crypto and that's just not probable for the next 1-3 years. I'm bullish on crypto, but to think that BTC will see new ATHs of 250k, 500k, 1M.. it's just unrealistic. It needs to stop somewhere.

Dominicchon

I think the security concern is probably the strongest argument. A lot of Bitcoin DeFi has depended on wrapped assets and bridges, which add trust assumptions. But if new use cases can be built around native BTC without changing Bitcoin itself, I don't necessarily see that as conflicting with its role as sound money.

Drumroll-PH

You can swap USDT to BTC using decentralized swaps like THORChain-based services or through P2P platforms like Bisq, though they take more time and effort. Some people also use DEX routes like USDT to WBTC then bridge to BTC, but that adds extra risk from smart contracts. I’ve tried both CEX and non-CEX routes before, and the main tradeoff is convenience versus control, so pick the one you actually understand fully before moving funds.

Dominicchon

That's fair, but I also think a lot of use cases need the right infrastructure before demand can really develop. Fifteen years ago, most people weren't using the internet for banking or streaming either. Today there are projects exploring new ways to use native BTC as collateral or access liquidity without having to sell it. Whether those ideas gain traction is another question, but I think it's worth letting the market decide rather than assuming Bitcoin's only possible role is as a passive store of value.

MrRoidsen

Why someone would invest in MSTR instead of just buying BTC?

MuscularFrog13

Generally most boomers I’ve known that have bought BTC love to greedily buy high and panic sell low

BakedGoods

this looks awesome. one thing: would be nice to have (i) mouse overs for each term. for example beside BTC Dominance, Hash Rate, Epoch Progress, etc. I generally know what these are but a mouse-over tooltip would be nice.

t0m0hawk

Shit is crashing? BTC is still at 63k checking in right now. Shit is *correcting*

ChangeHeroOfficial

5 years of chaos, BTC is still standing. That's the answer.

Ge_Yo

I think a lot of Bitcoiners worry that new use cases eventually lead to more trust assumptions and unnecessary complexity. At the same time, protocols like Babylon are showing that native BTC can do more while staying true to Bitcoin's core principles.

Scared-Metal9294

Lummis personally holds both BTC and ETH and continues to receive funding from crypto lobbyists.

Real-Technician831

Take a look at BTC chart and see how brief the peaks are. Most of the time BTC ROI is rather shitty.

jgarcya

Good question.. I don't.... I save cash years three and four.... To lump sum at the start of the new cycle. Since I don't sell most cryptos... And since I only buy the first two years... I am always in profit. . I just ride the highs. By the time you are two cycles deep .... Actually it only takes one cycle... It is very unlikely BTC will ever drop below your first two year average . Any chance you get to lower your average cost... Would be a buying opportunity... But by year three of the cycle, that rarely happens. Diversification is the ideal... I set up a long term hold, self care wallet..... And a trading wallet for alts. You don't always need to be buying BTC... Esp when every cycle it loses 70-80% from its new Ath. It's just about faith in the asset and patience... Let the newbies make the mistakes. Once you are aware of the cycle .... You'd be foolish not to use it to your full advantage. Cycles are the way to invest .. but you need to be cash rich to take advantage of the panic from sellers... That's why you save years three and four.... And lump sum at the start of the new cycle... Then dca yrs one and two... Or only buy if it lowers your average.

BakedGoods

well yeah, the DCA approach is the best, i've been buying every two weeks for years. timing the tops and bottoms is hard, but the power law gives you a range of prices bitcoin could be at in 20xx. so if you buy 1 BTC right now ($63K), and want to see what the lower-band price would be in 2040, it's be worth $1.6MM. overall it could be worth anywhere between $10MM and that $1.6MM. so if $1.6MM is a good enough return for you then the rest is just gravy.

Siludin

I don't get it - why not just buy a BTC ETF instead of this stock? Please explain me very dumb

FloralSunset2

Which ETH projects in big banks? I have not heard of any. With the rest of your BTC analysis I agree. Bitcoin is vapor, cool idea by tech people 15 years ago but no fundamental value is there.

Ok-Astronaut4952

These days it’s really not that big of a deal. Think about how insignificant the amount of bitcoin being mined daily is now, especially after the next halving. Saylor alone already buys more than like 5 times as much BTC per day as is being mined per day. These tiny amounts of BTC have like no impact on the actual circulating supply. Now that the market is so huge mining is just not as big of a thing anymore. The market has just gotten so big. There’s a reason why almost all miners have switched to doing AI stuff

HSuke

> buy cheap Buy expensive. They're buying with MSTR, not cash (and MSTR price dropped harder than BTC price).

Ge_Yo

For me, conviction comes from understanding why a project might still matter five or ten years from now. That's why I'd still start with BTC and ETH, but I'd also want exposure to projects like QANX that are building around long-term challenges such as post-quantum security.

Blackiris-Code

Funny. BTC is my smallest investment and my biggest loss so far. SOL is where I get my profit 😂 (I'm using both long and short)

dj_destroyer

I thought you meant Bitcoin but your argument is even weaker for Strategy. Google just issued more stocks, is it a Ponzi? The company with near infinite cashflow just raised $80B more... why? Convertible debt is at least safer than just issuing new stock. Also, I would suggest listening to Strategy's latest earnings call if you truly think that. Strategy is certainly a leveraged Bitcoin acquisition vehicle using public capital markets but there's nothing wrong with that as long as they're creating shareholder value (which for them is more BTC per share/increase BTC yield).

Upbeat_Aside_9203

I’m no expert but my feeling is lower, quite a lot lower, is coming. 45k is my bet. Nothing is changing right now to stop the fall. SPACX has not yet launched. No pun intended. Cash is going into that. Once the traders finish with that, and other rocket / AI offerings, they’ll scan for the next thing, likely BTC.