BTC

Constant_Smile_

Hey Emoji Man, your post is titled "The ONLY way to buy". I'm letting you know it's not. But it seems you're way too high off of sniffing your own farts to entertain anyone else's ideas. I told you exactly what I do. I DCA and lump sum when the market is in a major correction or certain indicators are saying that BTC is oversold. Just letting you know straight DCA isn't the ONLY way. Take care, weirdo

PossessionMost2092

BTC is not programmable. No contracts just trade. The future of Tokenization is either ETH or stable coins. 20022 coins will represent actual gold. Good and silver are used in electronics that BTC needs to compute. Enjoy.

Saxonion

Quantum computing may one day present a risk to the integrity of wallets. All of those people that are active will have an opportunity to upgrade to a wallet with quantum-proof encryption (we know that's in progress). But what about the risk to legacy wallets, specifically the founder wallets (which hold approx. 5% of all BTC).

Due_Statistician2604

90% of the time the value of bitcoin mining is worth more than the electricity. Even when it isn’t all you have to do is hold the BTC for atleast 2 more years and then the mined BTC will be worth more

Due_Statistician2604

A lot of countries mine BTC using excess power grid energy or renewable

Strict-Comfort-1337

It’s probably safe to say limited supply is priced in at this point. As BTC bulls, what I think we’re banking on/hoping for is accelerating adoption and demand

RascalSr78

What are your thoughts on ETH? I’m open to hear anyone’s thoughts on ETH?!?!? 🤔💭💭💭I’m asking because I’ve had the opportunity to sell all my ETH 3x now in the past year to year and 1/2. If you look at ETH’s chart it hit 4k end of Dec 2024, end of May 2024 and the end of Feb 2024. That’s every 6 months ETH would hit 4K just in 2024. Bought when BTC and ETH when they hit lows in 2021. ETH was under 1K and BTC was under 20k. Just sold my by BTC last week when it just hit $90,500. And as usual, every time I sell, it continues to go up right after, never fails! It was down to 74k and put a limit order in to sell at $90,500 and forgot about it. Having sellers remorse about selling my BTC 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m down 4K as it sits right now. All the uncertainty and all the talks about tariffs, then pausing them, the stock market all over the place made me jump the gun. Anyone know what ETH will ever pump again?

MarioWilson122

Actually its right at 3. Everything was up until trump got into office toward the end of January. Matter fact BTC hit the ATH on inauguration day believe it or not.

ChattyGnome

Improvement? Sure but still far from ideal which is what BTC was supposed to be. Worst part? They print dollars to buy BTC over the counter (without affecting open market price) then fire up the shorts and dump on the open market.

Skenko

again, it really doesn't seem like you have a great grasp of what you're talking about, because in your post, you were asking about DCAing into BTC. If your time horizon is that short, then I would just lump sum into both, but diversify between.

Musickfoto

Putting all your cash in BTC is risky as hell. Diversify a bit, even if youre all in on crypto. Gotta have a backup plan, bro

External-Advice860

>I personally am diversified with about a 10-15% stake in BTC, with the rest in ETFs. with ETFs time horizon must be at least \~10 years, especially if lump-sum investment is made?Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Skenko

you listed like 5 things incorrectly in one post so it seems like you are more than likely not experienced enough to be gambling your life's savings. I would not recommend doing this. I personally am diversified with about a 10-15% stake in BTC, with the rest in ETFs.

RaccoonFree693

Rule number one: Don’t hold more FIAT you are willing to loose. BTC is relaxing to hold.

denfaina__

To be more precise, whatever I invested in BTC in 2025 is up in value 8.24% EUR invested vs BTC value in EUR now. It is worth noting that this is a bad mentality tho, since 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

nugymmer

TL;DR:- There is only ONE crypto that will ultimately be truly worth anything significant in the distant future. Bitcoin. And, maybe Monero if people want to ensure their transactions are completely anonymous. It's basically digital gold. Everything else is a "system" whereby something can overcome it, surpass it, supersede it, supplant it, whatever. Right now, BTC has the enormous network effect that can never, I repeat, never, be abolished. It's simply too big to fail. I cannot say the same for any other project in this space. Nothing else is too big to fail.

RaccoonFree693

You did the right thing. Everything devalues against BTC. You are young. Happy times ahead of you. Forget the volatility and relax. End of 2025 you will be much richer.

GreenStretch

I always made BTC my top priority. No real plan in the 2021 cycle, but took some fiat profits from altcoins. I hoped to do that more seriously this time around, but with the recent turmoil, most of the small alt positions are BTC now.

alsoilikebeer

True. Bitcoin will, as long as it is Proof-of-Work, look for the cheapest energy, without regard for the envirement. BTC uses as much energy as Poland. Every day, each day. 175 TWh yearly. Visa, Mastercard combined use less than 1% of that. The combined tradfi CO2 output is estimated to be around 30% of BTC. As long as cheap energy is bad for the enviroment so will BTC be. I hope for cleaner and cheaper energy.

Blkout50

I sold a lot of mine, but I had to trade it for fiat because I could only get 1 BTC for 1 BTC. If it can break free of fiat and stand alone then it will truly be worth something.

ProtectionII23

Nice Dude I only have 0.6 BTC😭

Possible-Durian-1764

Why don’t you just halve it, say you can save $300 a week generally, buy $150 a week in BTC and $150 to something safer an etf of some sort? Evan if you save up a little emergency fund so you never have to pull your BTC early for any reason

Blkout50

I bought my pie a few years ago, but its value hasn’t changed. 1 BTC is still equal to 1 BTC.

MotionMimicry

Here is one I’ve been pondering, would love to hear your thoughts: “how would borrowing work with an asset that's supposed to undergo permanent deflation? Suppose you bought a home worth $150k in 2015 using BTC, when one BTC was worth about $1k. Say you got a good interest rate then of 2% over 15 years, and the mortgage was structured in BTC. Your monthly mortgage payment would be 0.97 BTr, today you're on the hook for $80k/mth with anothe V years left to go. Some months your mortgage payment has been in the neighborhood of $100k.”

RefrigeratorLow1259

It will be the go-to UTXO DeFi layer for BTC, as BTC is not capable of smart contracts or scalability. DYOR......

Longjumping_Method51

No one has ever bought and not had their BTC be worth more 4 years later - ever! Buy and hold and it will pay off.

Freedom_58

No worries. Your money is her money. My gf and I have BTC in our portfolios. ☺️

KeepBitcoinFree_org

Imagine listening to the head of the central bank about anything, let alone the most useless, manipulated, highly speculative asset in the world. BTC isn’t Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system for the world.

Blkout50

So… that means yes we keep getting a smaller and smaller and smaller piece of the pie (BTC).

f3d30x

You mean she is 90% on BTC then …

Imaginary-Finger2898

Me and my wife took out a loan in 2018 for 9000$. We used $8000 to buy ~0.8 BTC and rest to keep house warm etc.. We had a goal to buy flat with that BTC and unfortunately, due to me being a pos pussy at keeping my job we had to spend that btc at ~2020 before the 69k that came in 2021. Don't fucking sell it. I feel million dollars btc will come sooner than Christmas, so good luck and hodl hodl

NoOpportunity229

Started taking 20% of my income directly into Bitcoin and I use Fold to pick and choose when I spend in BTC or when I spend in USD. So far it is working really well, I get DCA, get to try and time the market on selling without worrying about my actual holdings. And I figure over time I'll be able to have more purchasing power. 10/10 solid first month using it

waitareyou4real

BTC is a dated technology, in the world we’re moving towards

controllerofplanetx

because it is still too volatile. Nobody want’s to sell his BTC if in 1 year he get 2 instead of one.

0a0d0s0

Well said. Switching to a Bitcoin standard is one thing... figuring out how to actually *live* off it is the next step. If you ever want to map out how long your BTC could last with regular monthly withdrawals, check out this free simulator I built: [https://bitcoinlifespan.com/](https://bitcoinlifespan.com/)

Different_Walrus_574

BTC is risky

SuccessfulRing5425

I bought almost exactly 3 years ago and last year was able to get about 25% yield on my BTC via btc proxys (which I sold and re-bought BTC with). I have a trading portfolio with stuff that I will eventually sell but in terms of btc, have essentially the exact amount I want and no intention of selling it unless I really need to.

gponter79

I can teach you how to play the guitar for a measly 0.5 BTC :)

cubestrike

I don't think it's dumb if you could manage the risk. The point i talked about is to pay ASAP but always could sell my BTC later.

EarMiserable131

Quite unlikely that there is nothing outperforming BTC if you expect less returns.

Deathdar1577

Prisons be splurging on beds. Sell them for some BTC bois!!

TheHumanCanoe

If you’re married, your wife is also 90% in BTC.

probzy22

I don’t know if this was already mentioned, but have you tried Wirex? I am paying with btc using Wirex, but I’m from from Latvia, there could be some difference from country to country Overall, you can exchange BTC to Eur and withdraw it to your own acc, I am doing that also when necessary

RaccoonStreet351

You're literally asking for smarmy, pseudo comedic and unhelpful replies on Reddit. That said, putting those bags into a high interest account then DCAing into BTC might have been a better path.

mrestiaux

Yeah for sure, it’s just a tad reckless to put all of your eggs in one basket. Stacking BTC daily is the way to go. Play the long game.

Possible-Durian-1764

I’m not touching anything but BTC and I hold 2k on XRP

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC every single day minimum 10% of salary watch what happens five years from now

Possible-Durian-1764

10k into BTC then 250 a week into it aswell

GreenStretch

I rolled some shitcoin positions into btc quite recently and BTC is already up 10k from then.

Blkout50

So… we keep getting a smaller and smaller piece of the pie (BTC)?

cubestrike

I don't care about diversifying because i've been there and not worth my time. if they put everything based on BTC, they wont buy it and they will learn it the hard way because I did.

SUPAH_ACE

In my experience both stocks and crypto are *relatively* the same. I say that because it all comes down to “buy low, sell high”. You try to do the same with both. Obviously it’s more complex than that but that’s just the gist of it. The appeal with crypto is that the crypto market is VERY volatile, meaning the price of the coin fluctuates a lot. Crypto is open 24/7 and is also open on the weekends. Another appeal is that thousands of coins are priced in at less than $5. Hell, many are at less than a dollar. This gives the buyer a potential opportunity to get 2x-100x profits. A coin priced at $0.10 has a very good chance it will reach $1.00 with enough buyers, volume, and hype. That’s a 9,000% profit gain. You just 9x your initial investment. You put in $100, you come out with $900. With crypto, it’s very common amongst crypto traders to make those gains. However, as much as you can make plenty of money, you can also loose it all within seconds. With crypto, there are WAY more scams, grifts, rug pulls, and hacks. It’s easier to loose all your crypto than loosing all your money from stocks, and thats because of the risk that comes with crypto. Not to say the stock market isn’t risky, but crypto in itself has its own different types of risks. With the stock market, it is more conditioned, meaning there’s more patterns, not as volatile, and a bit easier to follow (in my experience). You have stocks priced in below $5 but the chances of them getting a 9,000% (9x) on your initial investment is unlikely. Everything moves a bit slower and the market is only open from 9:30am EST to 4:00pm EST. The stock markets are closed on the weekends. Prices are definitely more expensive, especially for the blue-chip stocks. In my experience, no matter if you learn crypto or stocks, they are fundamentally the same, albeit a bit different. As I stated above crypto is open 24/7, while the stock market is open from only a certain time. The main difference in my opinion is that stocks have a *TANGIBLE* value backing its price. That’s the company and its services / products. While crypto is online digital money. It’s backed by hype and pretty much nothing else. But that doesn’t mean it’s useful. BTC recently is backed by the government which gives the coin more “trust” in a way, what ever that means. Regardless if you learn crypto of the stock market first, you will be able to translate the knowledge from one to the other. Not all, but most. I’ve learned the stock market first and once I got into crypto, it was easier to understand. Each comes with its own risk. Each comes with its own pros and cons. Best to learn about both and do both. I trade during the weekdays and trade crypto during the weekend. Best of luck to ya!

tekn0lust

Taxes are the big issue with massive conversion to fiat or goods and services. Even if you go BTC to a stable, still triggers capital gains for which you need to consider tax prepayment before filing or face interest later.

expatfreedom

So true. And there’s also that graphic that shows as your understanding of bitcoin increases, so does your allocation. People start at 1 or 10% and just trying to trade… but then they end up realizing cash is trash and want to hold BTC 110% with fiat loans, for as long as possible. Do you happen to know a comprehensive course , playlist or video series, that will take beginners through the first 50 hours and get them up to speed as quickly as possible? I want to include it on my bitcoin themed FIRE sub if there’s a good introduction like that

Intrepid_Guidance_57

Same here, my whole family actually… I just see it as my mission to get them out of poverty because god showed me and taught my properly about BTC, everybody is still stuck in old programming, I’m the glitch in the system and so I look at it as I’m the one man army going into battle for them

Maximum-Firefighter3

My girlfriend finally purchased $100 worth. I plan to propose in June. I wish I didn’t spend as much on the ring and could have showed a BTC allocation for the engagement

Ok-Western-5799

In addition to BTC, look into strong Layer 1s like SOL and XRP. Supra is another one. It's a lot newer, with multi VM tech, native oracles and more.

CttCJim

My wife won't even let me explain the basics of crypto. But she's content to let me buy and hold it outside our budget. I pay myself an allowance off each check for BTC, and if we have an emergency like recently when the cat needed Debrah surgery I can some out to borrow fun the savings, then increase my allowance until it's repaid.

acorcuera

I’m 40% BTC 40% MSTR.

Neat_Teacher7113

I dont think there is anything wrong with what he did. I think by the end of 2025 he will be pretty happy from the gain on his bitcoin. # Key Asset Performance in 2024 (YoY): * **Bitcoin**: 153.1% return (CoinGecko, as of December 11, 2024). * **Gold**: 34.8% return (CoinGecko, 1-year timeframe). Some posts on X suggest gold's YoY performance reached \~43% (from $2400 to $3450), but this is not consistently verified across sources. * **S&P 500**: 33.1% return (CoinGecko, 1-year timeframe). * **Silver**: Posts on X indicate a 21.98% year-to-date return for 2024, with a 13% YoY increase cited in one instance. * **Crude Oil**: -0.13% return (CoinGecko, 2024 YTD). * **US Treasuries**: 5-year Treasuries at -4.3%, 10-year Treasuries at -2.6% (CoinGecko, 1-year timeframe). What other asset is up more than BTC? Nothing is up more than BTC and the outlook that BTC continues to go up is excellent

heygooser

Wild. I thought buying $10 of BTC was insane.

PathologicalUpvoter

What I feel, and this is my opinion, it’s the BTC maxis who are the key to altcoin season, we won’t get altcoin season until they all feel the fomo and they start trading their BTC to alts. Now that the dominance is so strong, and ETH losing its luster, I feel the next altcoin seasons won’t be as wild as the first few. Heck even BTC won’t do another 2-3x anytime soon (crosses fingers)

50nathan

This is the worst thing you could do to yourself right now. Bitcoin is near an all-time high and it's going to swing down. Some say it might even reach down to 25K. I strongly recommend liquidating it back to cash, however, don't do it on Wealthsimple, as they're way too expensive. I suggest you use Kraken Pro due to your high volume. Send the BTC to Kraken Pro and liquidate it. Wait for it to go back down again.

castorfromtheva

> You say 0.1, that is equals 10 million satoshis, would become 10 million BTC? Nope. Read OP's post and BIP. Nevertheless what OP suggests is a stupid idea.

cwaqrgen

Came here to day this. There even was a post WP made to claim via Mara pool stream so bots couldn't get the BTC.

el_rico_pavo_real

Maybe you just aren’t far enough down the BTC rabbit hole to appreciate their insights.

AcrobaticComposer

I think mining BTC on an asteroid is equally likely

grndslm

Supposing the idea of "halvings" is a for sure thing, which is rather simple... then the only 2 ways to change the total possible supply are either (1) to add an epoch, which would double the supply, so you could never get to 25 million BTC, or (2) change the number of blocks per epoch from 210,000 to another number most likely divisible by 10,000, so adding 40,000 blocks per epoch would have created 25 million total BTC. But then the epochs wouldn't be nearly as close to the 4 year cycle that they currently are. He probably was fishing for numbers and saw that 210,000 blocks was as close to a whole number of years as possible, with the largest possible numbers being able to be arithmetically computed with existing hardware???

DuckPossible5097

Not a certified Financial Advisor. But if there are no losses, of ok amt of gains. I’ll recommend reducing risk you have taken. Liquidate like half 20k, 30k or 40k from your BTC purchases, and do a DCA (dollar cost average) from that amount. 2 wins: 1. you wont regret loosing a lot of BTC crashes & may also have some cash at hand to pick btc for lower prices. 2. You will get an exposure to DCA strategy, which comes handy when markets are volatile or for risky assets (be it stocks or cryptos)

Expo24816

Its not a spiel, its a reply to your inaccuracy. You are changing the goal post. You literally said that almost all other vehicle investments are less risky which is incorrect and that is fact. Now you are talking about the original post and putting all of their eggs into one basket. BTC could crash to zero or even to something like 20k is less than a 1% chance at this point. Big players, institutions, treasuries, billionaires and millionaires, countries, states, etc. are coming in more by the day. Btc is low risk high upside. It's not a 50 50 thing or even a 90 10 thing. I was referring to your comment about it being highly risky with high upside. That is incorrect. It's not a penny stock.

cats-astrophe

2030 BTC will be 1 million - will you be sad you took it out? If the answer is yes, that’s your answer. You can always pull out your initial investment and let the rest ride. Look at the charts, BTC is not going anywhere. It’s been adopted by hedgefunds and big companies. We now have bitcoin etfs. Trillion dollar market caps don’t just disappear, never once has that happened. It will be volatile, yes. That’s the risk and reward you need to be comfortable with.

gettabetter1

I’m specifically focused on stable coins not bitcoin. Events in the real world do affect financial instruments including BTC.

Zanzabarr85

Why would you lump sum invest your life savings into BTC like 16 months after the previous bottom, and almost 6 months after it broke the previous all time high? Lol. Goes up 10% and you're nervous and ready to get out. Sounds like someone who would sell the bottom if things go south.

NefariousnessBig6302

You can check out my portfolio breakdown here: [my tweet link](https://x.com/james__startup/status/1915276875796267432?s=46)My tweet link I’m holding ~250 BTC and a bit of SOL. I sold all my ETH in 2024 when I saw the clear trend — BTC is separating itself from the rest. SOL still has potential, but I’m cautious. Bought a small position and now just watching for real momentum. For 2025, my plan is simple: Stack BTC. Only adding to SOL if it proves it can run with strength. Sometimes, less is more.

BQbaobao

Take. Your. BTC. Off. The. Exchange. Then you have nothing to worry about!

BQbaobao

Downside is it ties up cash. If you write a $100 strike put, maybe you get $5, but your 100 is tied up for the full duration of the option. As BTC seems like it’s going parabolic again, you might not want to do that right now. Writing puts is a good strategy in a sideways or bear market when you feel conviction in the asset and don’t mind if it expires in the money and you pay a little extra for the asset. For example, Bitcoin January-March 2025. Right now, me personally, I’m buying Bitcoin, Mstr, and leap options on Mstr. Was selling covered calls a bit recently but closed them out last Monday. Lucky. And now I’m fully long and not giving my upside to anyone!

gettabetter1

I agree. What’s your take on Kaspa? A complete waste of time or something that compliments BTC?

uduni

I always say put in half. If the price goes down you can get more. BTC could be 40k or 400k a year from now

Flamtap_Zydeco

Well, you've got the champagne (BTC). Now you need the Ripple, and you'll have Champipple! I happen to think that $15K is too much extra alt coinage. Gold does still exist. But if you must, add XRP.

vomitKeeb

that person's limit is not my limit. Carrying their point though, at what price would you sell all your BTC?

SmokeAndSkate

As long as no one can press a button and print BTC the dream is alive.

Freedom_58

Market manipulation has been around before BTC. It'll help some while hurting the majority. As long as you don't react to every single piece of news, you'll be fine.

Expo24816

You can be stupidly sarcastic but it's not. It's the best money every created with the best fundamentals and it has first mover advantage. Actually, what is very risky is not investing into BTC, because if it becomes the world's reserve currency and hyperbitcoinization happens before you start investing into BTC then you've royally F'd yourself, and there's a good chance it becomes the world's reserve currency one day.

gettabetter1

BTC is here to stay. It’s hard not to notice how many people are just caught up in the hype without understanding the bigger picture. This superficial approach and carelessness can lead to problems down the line. If we really believe in the movement, it’s up to us to protect its core values and ensure its future is built on a solid foundation.

Working-Contract9730

just buy BTC every month, even as you continue to make money later on in your life

AlwaysMooning

A one time purchase with $20 thirteen years ago would have gotten OP past $100,000 😉 I used the S&P in the example though since it sounds like this is their first BTC purchase.

srikarz

Don't respond to any Dms, I think BTC is a hedge against the devaluing currencies around the globe.

mille8jr

Still on the path to decentralization and freedom for BTC. Crypto might not get beyond niche, but BTC is here to stay.

Expo24816

Incorrect. Btc may be volatile but saying almost any other investment vehicle is safer than BTC is wrong. Btc, over the long run, has proven to be the safest investment that there is. You got it backwards. Look at BTCs average annual rate of return.

panthera_N

oh my god can you believe it, ETH goes up when BTC goes down, this super mini pump will disappear in 3, 2, 1....

TradelifeYolo

Coinbase is very safe. I hold at times 5 BTC no problem. If you go over .5 BTC I recommend and Coinbase One account for added security and protection.

Fun_Concentrate3149

As long as you can keep your head above water for your monthly expenditures and can access another liquid investment to rely on for 12 months, in a worst case scenario, then I say swing for the fence. Bitcoin has an extremely favorable mid-term multi-year prognosis. I was in your position, almost broke, many ago and put 80% of all I had left into BTC. As a result, over the years I cashed some out to live a very comfortable life on the way to complete financial independence today. With some still left.

Sparkskatezx3

IMO, it really depends on your risk tolerance. Focusing on 2-3 strong projects like BTC, ETH, and maybe one emerging tech could work for some. Others prefer spreading across 8-10 to hedge risks. Also, an index fund for crypto sounds cool but there isn’t a widely adopted one yet. Worth watching for future innovation.

Mission_Horse829

The last political climate led to all time highs in BTC. Bitcoin doesn't rely on the administration in power.

TheHumanCanoe

For the life of me I will never understand that. I don’t tell people I know how much I have invested in my 401k let alone posting my BTC balance to a public forum.

Blockchainauditor

Creating a new address is fine, but the audit trail is there - you have to create a transaction to move the BTC from the blacklisted address to the new address.

Blockchainauditor

They can put an address in a public list, and if BTC has a history at that address, people can be told to not accept it. For example, you wish to sell BTC through an exchange and deposit BTC there, but it can be traced back to a blacklisted address - the exchange can reject working with you. Obviously, that might not influence a peer-to-peer exchange.

Expo24816

Taking your savings to invest isn't "dipping" into your savings. Especially investing in BTC which is astronomically better than any FIAT currency in the world.

el_rico_pavo_real

It’s probably one of the best talks in n BTC i’ve heard in a long time. Pure signal.

Expo24816

A few hundred bucks into BTC instead of the S&P over the past 13 years and OP would have multi millions BTC gains have been WAY higher than s&p