BTC

rodmandirect

I’m in BTC for about 14 years, so pretty good. I expect it to continue to be the #1 growing asset on earth for the foreseeable future. Before lol’ing, step back a bit and look at the bigger picture. I’ll check in with you in five years to see if you’ve figured it out yet. RemindMe! 5 years

SerdarTowo

The 1,202 sats were almost certainly the withdrawal fee that GoMining's payment processor charged but didn't display clearly. You can verify this yourself: go to mempool.space, paste the transaction hash a86609911ead87031cf75a808a965802f3adaa9f07e4fd0b88d66ea72a159112, and check the output amount vs what GoMining said they sent. If the on-chain output matches what Kraken received (0.00342000 BTC), then the difference was taken before the transaction was broadcast. GoMining showed you the gross amount, not the net after their processor's fee.

Advanced-Industry-50

I am happy today, and I think I don't want to change anything in the past that led me up to today.  I ll take 21 BTC 😂

unknowngloomth

Instead of spreading your money across many "medium risk" assets the typical diversified portfolio, you split your capital into two extremes: Portion Allocation Type of Assets Goal Safe Barbell 80 to 90% Very conservative (low volatility) Protect capital Risky Barbell 10 to 20% Very high risk, high upside bets Generate outsized returns You completely avoid the middle ground those "somewhat risky but not crazy" assets that usually deliver mediocre results. In Traditional Investing Safe side: Government bonds, treasuries, cash, gold, blue-chip defensive stocks. Risky side: Venture capital, startups, options, leveraged bets, or small speculative positions. In Crypto Context Safe side (80 to 90%): BTC, "ETH," stablecoins Risky side (10-20%): A very small number of carefully filtered high-conviction bets (clean tokenomics, real usage starting to show, not 90%+ down from ATH, etc.). You don’t hold 8 to 12 random small caps just because they "might do something." You stay extremely picky on the risky side. Protects you from big losses (most of your money is safe). Still gives you exposure to massive upside (the small risky bucket can 10x to 50x and move the needle). Avoids "diworsification" owning too many mediocre coins that all move together when the market dumps.

HumanPlane5807

Go all in. You will have 30k tomorrow. You get BTC at the price you deserve they tell me.

repomies69

\> No matter how much knowledge you have and how confident you are in Bitcoin, those bear runs absolutely suck and there will always be a feeling of uneasiness of buy during this period. I agree that there is uneasiness in bear markets, but I really like bear markets because you don't have the mainstream ppl here buying BTC. It is only the people who get it. If you go to BTC meetup in bear market you meet way less dumb people, which is nice.

snakemeatsandwiches

.21 is .000001% of the total supply of 21 million BTC. If you had .000001% of the total supply in circulation of 22.7 trillion USD, you would have $227,000 currently. So practically speaking not an insignificant amount but on the global scale not an insane proportion. But more USD is printed constantly and it’s perpetually less valuable over time.

RandomPlayerCSGO

Actual diversification looks like combining stocks, gold and silver and BTC, alts all do the same

Far-State-8719

Simple, the market didn’t collapse because of that sale of 32 BTC. Do you not have access to 3/6/9/12 month charts? MSTR started rolling over July ‘25. Hope this helps.

Adventurous_Race_201

As special as .21 BTC.

absolutebrightness

You could buy 21 BTC for under $10 in 2010.

Advanced-Summer1572

Owning 0.179 BTC places you firmly in the top 6% to 10% of all Bitcoin wallet addresses, and generally within the top 1% to 2% globally when measured against the total population of Bitcoin holders. The exact breakdown of your standing can be viewed in two ways, both driven by the finite supply of 21 million Bitcoins:Top 6% – 10% of Addresses: When evaluating the total population of wallet addresses on the blockchain, holding > 0.1 BTC (and up to 1 BTC) puts you comfortably in this decile. Top 1% of Owners: The "0.28 Club" is a widely cited statistical benchmark in the community. If you divide the 21 million maximum possible Bitcoins by 1% of the global population, holding ~0.28 BTC theoretically guarantees you a spot in the richest 1% of the world's Bitcoin owners. Since 0.179 BTC (my current holding, I continue to DCA) is a significant fraction of this, you rank exceptionally high in global wealth distribution.

veri745

Only 152 million other people could possible ever have 0.21 BTC at the same time

K42st

Spot selling or exchanges move the price up if large sellers sell on there, image a large buyer getting their BTC on an exchange in Bulk the spot price would go through the roof (good right) no not good bad because next month when they want more they pay more. The name of the game is to keep price low and buy more, whether they buy or sell they’ll do it either in small exchange orders but lots of them over time or they will be matched with sellers OTC. People miss understand that buying is the key to higher prices when in reality stopping selling is more important, you can have as many buyers as you like but if the selling matches the amount bought prices don’t rise, if sellers stop and buyers keep coming prices must rise.

Infinite_Beginning98

Hurry up and get to 1 BTC

jeremyvr46

I’m not a gambler no, so I diversify. But I do have a good size of my portfolio in BTC.

bananabastard

It wasn't bitcoin. I believe it was mostly, if not all, USDT, which everyone should already know can be seized by the US government. It was after the news first broke about Iran getting crypto assets seized, that Iran announced they would only accept BTC toll payments to pass through the Strait.

Kemilio

“the idea that ETH, SOL and BTC won’t be ready for quantum is straight fear mongering” lmao.

Blade_Runner_69

They didn't snatch any BTC. That's nonsense. They froze stablecoins on exchange that they considered to be something to do with Iran. But presented no evidence as proof as far as I know.

jawni

Prices are never exactly equal between any markets, crypto or otherwise. If it is feasible, people will arbitrage it and buy from the cheaper source and sell to the expensive source, which will even it out. Although some differences in price can stay a while with certain idiosyncrasies of the market. In this case it's hard to know since it was a mini "black swan" type event rather than just normal trading causing the discrepancy. Either way I wouldn't be very bullish on H. Coinbase for a long time carried a premium on price, but has been at a discount for a while. https://www.coinglass.com/pro/i/coinbase-bitcoin-premium-index The entire country of South Korea carried a premium on BTC price for a while, which was called the "kimchi premium". https://cryptoquant.com/asset/btc/chart/market-data/korea-premium-index

devCheckingIn

All those treasury companies bought BTC in the 100-125k range. 🤣

BrodysBootlegs2

I lived in Army barracks from 2010-14, free electricity and mining BTC was still worth it back then, kick myself every day for not having known about it! 

Ok_Pipe6417

Does anyone here actually know anything or understand bitcoin outside of what they have been told? For example how many people have looked at the core code, the cryptography etc... digested it and developed a fundamental understanding of the core works and formed their own opinions? I have always wondered this, where are those people? This is certainly not me, and for that reason I am sheepish, much the same as I would be to try to take my money and build a car from the ground up, I do not understand enough to ensure that the care would be road worthy. I increasingly feel the decentralization and beyond control narrative is just a story. The fact remains the full force of any serious or advanced nation can achieve nearly any outcome they wish, I am of the opinion a large amount of restraint is exercised daily by the US gov't and other such nations. Theoretically the US gov't could easily devote the computing resources required to control 51% of the network if they so chose. Understandably the small group who control the github for the core fork are anonnymous for security reasons, but are they really? There is still a human factor here. It seems a considerable amount of trust is required here as how many node operators look at actual updates and their functionality outside of what they are told in commits? What would stop this anonnymous small group from injecting something that would not be concentual by all nodes and not notifying while all nodes update based on what they believe they are agreeing to. I am starting to think that BTC is allowed to exist, but why?

AP_lookingahead

You should 1) fully fund your emergency fund to have it cover 3-6 months of expenses 2) invest into a mix of low cost index funds such as S&P 500, total international market ex us, and total bonds market 3) and then at this point invest NO MORE than 5% of your portfolio into BTC

FitCompetition1804

I don’t believe a word this administration says, especially when they make outlandish claims such as this. People think they emptied cold storage BTC wallets. They did not.

LionRivr

Very true. The non BTC’ers would say: “But stocks are real companies that produce products, goods and services! It’s real value! Bitcoin doesn’t produce anything!!”

Syrion1984

Congratulations, here's to many more purchases! Make sure to keep at 0.0008 BTC safely in a wallet that you own, not an exchange. Remember; not your keys, not your crypto!

SensitiveAd6131

How could they “snatch” BTC from Iran? They gave the seed phrase or did they storage the btc in Binance? 😅

Porcellanidae

You should use some inverted thoughts in this, Suppose you had 1 BTC now, would you sell it for money or hodl? If hodl, than just buy BTC with what you have. 

Harfatum

Before putting that much of your portfolio in BTC, you should be sure you understand the security budget situation as well as the quantum resilience situation - both in the light of the internal politics that has dominated Bitcoin development over the last 8-9 years.

CTBienAvant

going back in 2010 with no knowledge of today just a note saying buy as much as you can BTC

jeremyvr46

How about no? I don’t care about who’s right and who’s wrong. I decided to invest in both BTC and the stock market to diversify. You do whatever you want and I couldn’t care less if you end up with more or less money than I do in a year. Wish you the best!

memecryptocoins

You cant predict the bottom, so DCA now. BTC is not going anywhere and many influential people and countries have a lot of money tied to it's success. You will look back in years and be happy you accumulated.

Adventurous_Mode_369

It’s hard to say with out seeing the rest of your portfolio. If you have no other investments, and a strong conviction in BTC I would go 33% into btc dca over the next 6 months. 33% into broad market ETFs, and 20% into some blue chips you think will out preform and 13% into some smaller caps if you can research and do your own due diligence.

Rekklezz44

I got drunk last night and bought 2 BTC. Good luck broski!

clutchtho

5 years in crypto, no way you were mining much with your gaming PC 5 years ago, if anything at all lmao anyways, highly recommend owning bitcoin over any other alts. 38% BTC is fine at your age. You're young and it's the time to be risk on. But you should continue to DCA normal investment tools to decrease that 38% of time.

nafnaf0

I assume your question is rhetorical, but the simple answer is Strategy said they would never sell, and so by selling this caused the market to crash (but honestly BTC doe whatever it wants). Them buying doesn't really change much of anything, they do that all the time, so that is normal.

Substantial_Sir1983

Ive got 6% of liquid net worth in BTC. It is quite underwater. I am not buying more. I am not selling either. Its not easy to do nothing but it is the right thing for me.

darkpool_watcher

This is super common in crypto, a lot of us went through the same phase including me. You’re probably overdiversified, true diversification in crypto doesn’t mean spreading thin across dozens of tokens, it usually means having a core (BTC + ETH) + 1-3 solid L1s you deeply understand, and that’s it. Here is the rule: If you can’t explain in one sentence why you own a coin and what problem it solves, you probably shouldn’t have a meaningful position in it.

TheBigBRRRR

I DCA weekly with small amounts and buy much more when BTC is close or at the bottom of this bear market. So for me this mix feels right 😄

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JEI2E

It's simple; there were only a handful of good options in my opinion. Properties (land/housing), gold/silver and Bitcoin. The first one I wasn't interested in because I live in one of the most taxed countries in the world, and you pay a gazillion hidden taxes when you own a home. I'm not even sure I'm going to stay here much longer, so it'd only be a headache anyway. I almost went for gold and/or silver, but I realized that nobody knows for sure how much there is left to be mined. There are guesstimates, but do we *really* know? Compared to Bitcoin's 21 million hard cap, it was actually an easy decision. Now, I have to admit that both gold and silver had the craziest bull run in decades shortly after, so it still kind of stings, but I'm sure that BTC will outpace it again in the coming bull run. Gold has a market cap of 29T, silver 3.6T and Bitcoin only 1.2T. The potential upside for Bitcoin is way, way bigger compared to gold. But in the end, it won't matter. All three assets will only go up because your government is addicted to printing new dollar bills.

longonbtc

Some hardware wallets that are compatible with iOS mobile are the Blockstream Jade Plus, Foundation Passport Core, Keystone 3 Pro, BitBox02 Nova, Trezor Safe 7, and Block Bitkey. These six hardware wallets all have publicly available source code that can be reviewed. I would personally choose the Blocktream Jade Plus if I had to choose a hardware wallet to use with an iPhone. --- The Blockstream Jade Plus: https://blockstream.com/jade/jade-plus/ Blockstream Jade Plus review & tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv_cN7F7-TM You can connect the Blockstream Jade Plus to iOS wallet apps like BlueWallet, Nunchick, or Blockstream BTC Wallet (Green). Get the Blockstream Jade Plus if you are interested in using the Liquid Network. You can use the Jade Plus with the Blockstream BTC Wallet (Green) iOS wallet and it has Liquid Network integration. --- The Foundation Passport Core: https://foundation.xyz/passport-core/ You can connect the Foundation Passport Core to iOS wallet apps like BlueWallet, Nunchick, or Foundation's own Envoy app. --- The Keystone 3 Pro: https://keyst.one/shop/products/keystone-3-pro?variant=KV032 You can connect the Keystone 3 Pro to iOS wallet apps like BlueWallet, Nunchick, or Keystone's own Nexus companion app. --- The BitBox02 Nova: https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/nova/ You can connect the BitBox02 Nova to the iOS [BitBoxApp app](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.shiftcrypto.bitboxapp) via bluetooth. --- The Trezor Safe 7: https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-7 You can connect the Trezor Safe 7 to the iOS [Trezor Suite](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/trezor-suite/id1631884497). --- The Block Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/en-US/products/bitkey The Bitkey is personally not my style but you might like it. The Block Bitkey works seamlessly with its own iOS app. The Bitkey iOS app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bitkey-bitcoin-wallet/id6476990471 The way the Bitkey works, you don't even need a seed phrase. It uses a 2 of 3 key multisig setup and you can recover your wallet with 2 of 3 keys. One key is stored by you on your Bitkey hardware wallet device itself (hardware key). One key is held by you on the Bitkey app on your smartphone (app key). And one key is stored on Block's server (server key). Block never has access to more than that single key and 2 of the 3 keys are required to access your funds. The Bitkey also has backup features in case both your phone and hardware wallet device break. When you first set up your Bitkey wallet, an encrypted copy of your app key is created and saved to your cloud account. This backup is encrypted using your hardware key, so even if someone gains access to your cloud storage, the backup would be useless without your Bitkey hardware to decrypt it. Block also allows you to add/remove a recovery contact who can help you unlock that encrypted backup without ever accessing your wallet or your keys. With help from your recovery contact, you can decrypt your app key, restore access to your wallet, and continue recovery without relying on Block.

escodelrio

Lol, I wish I was mining BTC from the beginning.

HamsterDunce

There are various DCA models out there that weigh your buys based off of current BTC price and a general risk assessment. That way your DCA is scaled based on how deep a correction BTC is going through. Some models even account for pumps and guide you to DCA out above certain levels.

Agitated_Medium5844

I would use the cash to pay the off loans, cash needs, fund large purchases (house down payment, car purchase), pay off debt, and establish emergency fund before I would buy BTC with it.

Vinnypaperhands

What do you mean no? Are you saying it's value isn't decentralized? What does that even mean? Quite literally everyone on this planet had the same opportunity to buy BTC.

Lopo19971997

Saresti stato più fortunato di me anche se non l'avessi trovato...ho perso più di 120 BTC presi nel 2009....

ModernCYPH3R

Your transactions have a direct, single-hop parent-child relationship. GoMining relies on a third-party payment processor or custodial provider to handle their outbound payments, which means their front-line support staff is completely oblivious to the downstream mechanics of their own wallet architecture. Here is the forensic breakdown of what happened: 1. The Batch Payout GoMining triggered a massive batch transaction: 95333b087645e5fa1c2b64ea5e62f41ac3929a673aa7186697cf3a73916cd51d If you inspect this transaction on a block explorer, you will find it has hundreds of outputs. Output #259 is sent to the transit address: bc1qr2hhvpf3m0z4sx90nxqydccxlxkf4pe5mjfhcr for exactly your requested withdrawal amount of 0.00343202 BTC (343,202 sats). 2. The Transit address & Fee Extraction That transit address isn't your Kraken wallet. It is a temporary, single-use transit address controlled by GoMining's payment gateway. While GoMining support agents claim they didn't create the second transaction—which is a convenient half-truth designed to close tickets rather than explain technical realities—the public ledger shows a direct and completely unarguable parent-child relationship where Output #259 of their massive batch transaction became the single, solitary input for the downstream forwarding transaction that deducted a processing fee and ultimately funded your Kraken deposit address. Pure on-chain proof. That forwarding transaction (a86609911ead87031cf75a808a965802f3adaa9f07e4fd0b88d66ea72a159112) split your 343,202 sats like this: • 342,000 sats (0.00342000 BTC) forwarded to your Kraken address (3KtixuucHp3ZFSex3847Liv6v8m1xnvt8y). • 1,060 sats sent to bc1qgcq078znysgm6fsveu894e32mrzqy9n9ncjg0w. This is the processing fee pocketed by GoMining's payment processor. • 142 sats paid to the miners to cover the network fee for the sweep. Your missing 1,202 sats is simply the sum of that 1,060 sat gateway fee and the 142 sat miner fee. IIt's a standard custodial forwarding architecture, but GoMining's front-line support is too clueless to realize their own provider's setup to realize they are the ones who initiated the chain. \-James

Suspicious-Job-8480

So what's the average purchase price?  And they don't do dca. DCA is buying in regular intervals for the same amount. Instead, they buy 1 BTC every time regarding the price. It means that effectively they spend more on Bitcoin when it's more expensive. It's not DCA

k-freeza

Thats true, i am really proud of my average. Specially when I talk to new comers in BTC. But the fear is real.

Crnorukac

What do you mean by “never be allowed anymore to get their own“? How can anyone forbid you to buy whatever you want with your own fiat money? Cash will always be present, if they can restrict buying with CBDC, use cash. Besides, you can always transfer CBDC to some person that wants BTC. It’s not like OTC is new thing these days. World already went to shit, so keep stacking.

MrSnugs

I was 33, living in a cheap apt making very little money. Much better position now and own quite a bit more BTC. :)

Ms_Freckles_Spots

For me the first thing to keep in mind is that other currency - fiat currencies - are not really based on anything solid. Fiat money, like the US Dollar are only based on the governments which manage them. There is nothing solid really there. Then, when I read about the math behind the creation of BTC and how it is discreet and cannot be expanded … or inflated by governments acts, that is when I bought my first BTC. Finally there is the blockchain behind it. The multi-ledger which is both private and non erasable. I still believe that if BTC and stay clear of governments and corporations then everyone gains. But I understand the risk as this early phase of become a trusted tool to hold value and trade with less external control.

liesdestroyer

How do you know you could buy 500$ worth of BTC at 40k?

WiseHunter1976

I've been in Bitcoin since 2017 and this is one thing I've learned about myself: \- I'm not very good at timing the top of the Bull \- But I'm gangbusters at timing the bottom of the Bear Bought BTC in 2019 for $3K - $4K Bought BTC in 2022 for $16K - $18K For what it's worth, buying Bitcoin at today's prices looks sexy as all hell right now.

SweatySir7362

Right now one sat is worth roughly $0.0006 or about 6 hundredths of a cent, so you're missing about 72 cents worth of BTC Looking at your transaction chain though, this seems like standard exchange hot wallet management where they consolidate and redistribute funds through intermediate addresses before final delivery

plintervals

Historically you're better off just putting the money into BTC

Bogdanoff_dump_it

That’s what I’m doing actually. I call it dynamic DCA. If the BTC price goes down, I spend more. If the BTC price goes up, I spend less. In the meantime, I save fiat on the sidelines which I use to finance the bigger buy orders.

Aware-Ad7163

That’s genuinely one of the craziest Bitcoin stories I’ve read in a while. Imagine spending years thinking it was gone forever, only to randomly find the seed phrase sitting in the Recycle Bin of an old laptop. Losing access probably saved you from panic selling years ago. Congrats on this, man! Protect your BTC now!

itsmearyastark

Another BTC pasta post, who believes in this AI text

plintervals

If you're asking reddit for financial advice, don't put 100% of it into BTC lol. If you're having to ask then you don't fully understand or have faith in BTC, so why would you put $60k into it?

Playful-Delivery1149

21 BTC now. I’m in high school in 2010

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Dude4001

Send me the 1BTC and I’ll verify it’s real

jeremyvr46

Haha I know. I don’t care about Karma so I’m cool with it. I’d rather make sure people don’t do anything reckless/too risky with their money and then regret it. I’m myself a BTC believer but I’m also aware of the risk so I don’t put all my eggs in the same basket, as I recommended.

TheBigBRRRR

Because they think BTC is a scam

Prnce_Chrmin

> Sure he sold 32BTC to crash HIS OWN investments. Just genius. Funny that you think it’s true I love your comments!

BakeDry7476

This is crazy,who made this? I guess I'm gonna be keeping my little BTC

Healthy-cartoonistt

It was 2019 I Returned to a site where I use to get Medication wink wink , I had €20 from 6 Months earlier it was now worth €39 , Happily Puzzled, After week or so a friend mentioned it was Bitcoin! Told it appreciates and depreciates. Still had no idea of blockchain or cryptocurrency Nada. Came here to find as much information as possible After that I purchased nearly half Bitcoin on coinbase at the time think it was nearly €4k,. I Guess got lucky on how got into BTC.. Still here

Datsyuk420

It wasn't Saylor selling. It was capital rotating out of BTC for the Space X IPO and anthropic IPO. It will rotate back in eventually. It does blow my mind how many people own this thing but their only validation for value is in the price. I understand what I own. I understand where Bitcoin is going. I understand where the dollar is going. Hyperinflation is around the corner. When Bitcoin goes on sale I continue to stack with my DCA. I am loving these prices. You cannot borrow my conviction but you can get some for yourself. Read "The Bitcoin Standard" and get some for yourself.

throwaway2026z

Nice! I wish I knew about BTC in 2019

jeremyvr46

Put it in the market. ETF like VOO etc. Don’t put all your eggs in the same basket when you invest your money. Put some in BTC for crypto, some in ETFs and some in individual stocks if there’s anything you like.

Maximum-Cover-786

Just all sell so it drops lower, and I can scoop up some more BTC at bottom prices.

bananabastard

>I didn't sleep at all that night. That being the night you regained access to your 1 bitcoin. >Today is officially the second happiest day of my life. The first was when my son was born on December 24th, 2025. The second is today, when I reunited with the 1 BTC that I genuinely believed was gone forever. So today is the day you regained your 1 BTC. And tonight, which hasn't happened yet, is the night you didn't sleep at all because you were replaying it all over in your mind. Timeline got fucked up, huh?

Spirited-Birthday-20

Use a peer to peer exchange like Hodl Hodl or Bisq. Never keep more on the platform than necessary. Also, watch out for chargeback scams. what method do you prefer P2P, a DEX like Bisq, or a BTC ATM? Also mind the fees

Good-Book-6912

I haven't had BTC for years.

Spirited-Birthday-20

60k cash. BTC at 60k. That’s either destiny or a trap. I’d buy half a coin now and DCA the rest. Fry fr

LionRivr

BTC is volatile. People try to make money trading the volatility. In a “free” market… You have traders that trade for many reasons. You have buyers that buy for many reasons. You have sellers that sell for many reasons. You have holders that hold for many reasons. The end.

stheodore1974

It’s mostly due to human emotion and also a lot of fresh retail interest in BTC. You’re right it definitely happens at least every major cycle top and bottom

Lukeskiski

Short term traders still affect price. Every trade interacts with the order book and available liquidity, even if they don’t hold for a longer period. Doesn’t matter if strategy buys 1000btc for the long term or if 1000 traders bought 1 BTC to sell in 15 minutes, that moment of purchase would affect the market in the same way. But I agree that the short term churn adds up in overall volume and exaggerates how much long term demand there is.

BlazingPalm

Because in theory the govt knows how valuable it is and the discount would be made up 10x over a few years of holding. If the govt wanted to treat BTC as a natl security asset, this is the way to stack fast.

BlazingPalm

As someone else here mentioned, offer a 3-5% discount when paying in BTC. I’d do it- buy the day of and transfer BTC. Interesting, hadn’t heard about OH.

book4225

Thanks for your response. This is my first major BTC cycle, could you tell me if this usually happens once every cycle or how many times? Also, how big of a 'cycle' are we talking about? 1 year cycle, 4 year, or?

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Rapetrain20148

Everyone saying BTC over ETH is crazy

darkpool_watcher

Because the moment Berkshire tried to buy anything close to 1 million BTC, the market would move against them. People often look at Bitcoin's market cap and assume you can buy huge amounts at the current price. You can't. There are only a few million coins actively available for sale, and liquidity gets thinner the higher the price goes. If Berkshire announced a plan to buy 1 million BTC, sellers would immediately raise their asking prices and front-runners would rush in ahead of them. In practice, buying that much Bitcoin could push the price up several multiples before the order was completed. There's also the Buffett factor. Berkshire invests in productive assets that generate cash flows. Bitcoin doesn't fit Buffett's investment framework regardless of whether it goes up or down. So the real question isn't "Why doesn't Berkshire buy all the Bitcoin?" It's "Why would Berkshire abandon a philosophy that has worked for 60 years?"

The_Vibe_is_Eternal

A lot of times they will buy BTC OTC and then when they sell, usually selling it on the open market

mrjune2040

Yeah there is zero chance they buy BTC, it goes against basically everything they look for in an asset class. But it’s not even the point of the thread really- OP’s just trying to apply pump and dump economics to a top 10 asset class, which just isn’t how sustainable market economies work.

GuidanceHot8396

Please try to convince me otherwise. Here is my understanding: 100 Billion is actually not a crazy amount of tokens based on calculations I've researched for the transfer of value. Standard fiat wouldn't loose value just because technologies would allow it was used over and over at a faster pace. It could increase the value with more availability to the unbanked. The price of XRP should be high if used anywhere close to scale to cover existing value. 1 - A high price will prevent slippage during large transfers, so if institution want to use it, they'll make ways to increase the liquidity. 2 - If traditional finance infrastructure wants to do this, they'll utilize ETFs and retail accumulation of a depleted available supply to begin the appreciation. Both of these seem to be possibly happening now. The thing that is so interesting about XRP is that it was created as a "store and transfer of value". Basically, it's like BTC but with huge utility potential. I don't see how it is not a great medium to log term investment. I was made to be the liquidity behind, in the background. There is nothing else really like it or in a position to be used because of the infrastructure Ripple has acquired.

Yesterday-Clear

Wait til $30k then buy two BTC

doyzer9

It all depends on your risk tolerance, let's say we have an economic disaster and or multiple negative factors and BTC drops 50%. Can you take the hit for 30k... and maybe wait 4+ years for a recovery... There is only one certainty, none of us know what's around the corner. Gamble inline with your risk tolerance. I feel BTC will skyrocket again, but no idea when. 🚀🚀🚀🌕🌕🌕 💰💰💰⏱️⏰🗓️ 🤔🤪🫪🤯

user_name_checks_out

> Are you talking in pesos because it certainly isn’t USD? 🤣 One million club = 21 BTC

SeparateCode2285

BTC is a spook that has a mind of its own - did your 5y old mind understand this?

_Stylite

This is not equivalent to 24hr volume because a giant portion of that is short term or intraday trading that doesn’t usually affect overall stability. It’s just money rotating in and out again much more quickly. There is even HFT activity on BTC inflating the daily volume. Your comment is misleading and MSTR affects BTC price more than its relative volume suggests.

Flaxk_

500 cigaretts (1BTC NOWWWWWW) and come back when its at 1MILLLLLLIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

pk9417

I got in with average 45k$ price per BTC, so Im still in profit, but due lack in money, I dont can buy now more 😞 On top, comes the question, whether I should use my spare money for OpenAI IPO and dump it as soon it sky rockets or put in falling bitcoin?

unitymind42

About to is Oct-Nov, DCA now at nibbles is what I’ve been doing and only with BTC and Solana.

Ordinary_Inspector61

on Chain BTC is layer 1 / base layer, lightning is one version of a layer 2 if that's what you're asking

TOJAB66

i have FOMO right now, i already more than doubled my position in BTC this bear market but i am not sure if i should buy more or wait for even better prices investing in this right now seems to be more logical than incresing positiond on ETFs considering its valuations