BTC

Top-Care-8946

For me BTC is future retirement fund or just assets that will help me out to survive when fiat will be worthless and highly devalued. BTC will give leverages like trading for other highly valued digital assets like gold backed digital assets. There will be time when printed money can't buy nothing. But when that time arrives then it's too late to start about thinking how to manage the situation. With small steps just collecting crypto because keeping fiats for long term interest-fixed deposit can't competite with BTC and other digital assets, just because return interest rates are too low. In some countries banks are offering long-term deposit return of interests just like small as 2-4%. That means holding for long term for an example 10 years, it gives for 10000 USD max 14802.44 USD. ROI is too low because inflation will eat earned interest during this time or at the end of that time. BTC and hopefully does not lose it's value just like other highly valued crypto assets too. Yes, et can go down temporarily but not forever. The printed paper once loses it's value will lose it for longer period. Maybe it never recovers it's initial value just because it will be weakened too much. Just as what happened once with Zimbabwe dollar, will happen also with traditional other currencies too. I am not sure when, but I am sure that it will happen. I am not an American, but I know that in history there were harsh periods. After Great Depression in 1930's some currencies like german reichmark lost their values and even comparing the purchase power of the 1USD in 1960's vs 1USD in 2026 we see that with dollar in 2026 it's not possible to own a home, car, fill your shelves and cabinets with food and raise all your 3-4 kids without a fear of becoming homeless.

ryana8

With all due respect - what the fuck are you talking about? BTC dumped before the meeting and has been recovering since the moment he opened his mouth. And it didn't go from 79k to 76k. It went from 75k to 76k. If you're talking about the initial "sell the rumor" dump.. which happens every time.. it went from 76.1k to 75k. Please go back to play with legos.

andreas_europe

Cuvex and Cypherock - both are BTC only - are worth a look...

Cowdungflung399

Way too volatile. BTC can lose double digit percents in a single day. Business, even ones who convert to cash at the end of every day don't want the headache or the risk.

Etabafein7

It seems like a legit platform, MiCA registered and all that.. Haven't tried yet but I'm thinking about putting in some € as lender to try and diversify, only in the future as I'm a bit short on cash for now, but yeah 7-8% APY isn't bad. As for borrowing I don't know, is it worth the risk, the % due at maturity, plus you need twice the amount of BTC of the € you want to borrow... think about it

Elean0rZ

And you're missing my point: It's not about BTC *per se*; it's about the deeper question of whether any tool that can't be totally surveilled should be outlawed, rather than sticking to outlawing the activities that use that tool for illicit purposes. Aside from any of that, your point implies that BTC facilitates illegal activity whereas the properties of cash work against it. That would seem to be contraindicated by the observations that (1) "paying a hitman to off your spouse" (or whatever) existed long before crypto came around, and (2) even after the rise of crypto, the value of fraud and illicit activity committed via fiat/cash is more than a hundred-fold greater than that committed via crypto (yes, fiat settles way more value to begin with, but even on a per-tx basis they're not as far off as many think). That's not to suggest that crypto isn't used for illicit activity. Certainly it is. But it does underscore that the fact of being used for illegal activity isn't unique to crypto in any meaningful way. Money laundering and sending envelopes of bills to bad guys was invented in the world of physical cash. More specifically, most crypto is rather unsuited to illicit use since its ledgers are 100% public--you can view the flow of value in real time. Witness, for example, the recent freezing of Iranian USDT assets at the behest of the US administration. BTC isn't as easy to regulate as a centralized stablecoin like Tether, but it's just as transparent and funds used in illicit activities can still be (and frequently are) blacklisted. The real culprit re: illicit crypto usage would be hardline privacy coins like Monero whose ledgers are obfuscated and all but untraceable, but those aren't at issue in the current discussion. So again the point at issue here is how to balance freedom, which also entails the freedom to screw up and be scammed, with regulation, which inevitably entails surveillance and centralization. In general I'd identify as being politically left of center and am not anti-government *per se*, but I do think there's ample evidence from across the globe that we're increasingly moving toward cashless monetary systems, and I think people don't necessarily fully appreciate the implications of that shift. The removal of BTC ATMs isn't a huge issue on its own, and it absolutely reduces a certain kind of fraud and consumer risk, which is great in a vacuum. But it's also emblematic of a broader shift toward a [surveillance economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism).

miamiair92

I’m 95% BTC in my 401k

QXPZ

Hey TIL of a new sub. I wish it were more active! It seems Lighting is really what will drive BTC adoption but doesn't get as much attention. Then again, I'm new to this and don't know shit.

bimbobandit2016

It's all vapor bro, even BTC

Tetons21

NYC passes a 4% processing fee onto all customers for cc processing. Such as opportunity for BTC Because it triggers a tax event BTC is held back

Low_County_3075

That’s actually a really long-term way to look at it. Aligning assets with future liabilities makes a lot of sense. Curious - do you think we’ll realistically get to a point where everyday expenses are paid in BTC, or more like it becomes a store of value you convert from? is anyone using lightening network for payments? I have never really used it.

TheGMan43

But as others have said: the endgame isn't a fiat number. It's a utility number, and ideally my labour will supply enough utility in my life to let me hold my BTC/Eth until I choose to access it for whatever reason I deem necessary

TheGMan43

I probably have a different view to a lot of people in this sub. I hold bitcoin as a hedge again bitcoin becoming exactly what most people in this sub think it will. Obviously part of the reason I'm hedging against that is because I think it's possible. I don't believe fiat will become worthless in my lifetime, and I strongly believe investing in companies will deliver excess returns forever (because regardless of if it's fiat or bitcoin, everything is based on its value in goods and services). But Blockchain technology is undoubtedly a useful technology, and I want to own the best (and second best) investments in that technology. BTC and ETH right now is around 3% of my net worth, I'd like that to be somewhere around 7.5%. And if the future is Blockchain, I won't sell if that 7.5% becomes 20% or more (but I will convert it to goods/assets and services if needed)

Secret_Operative

Started in 2011. Tried trading. Noped out pretty quick. Tried poker (hi sealswithclubs!) Won some, lost some but pretty sure I'm 20BTC down from that effort. Tried buying coffee, PC parts, and paying small debts and giving it away. That's at least another 10BTC successfully dispersed. Now I hodl and it's working perfectly.

Tech88Tron

You are missing my point. You can only use cash in person. You have to physically carry and transport it. BTC....well you can send $50,000 worth to a hitman to off your spouse without a trace. Just use your cash from selling drugs....launder it at a BTC ATM.....transfer to a wallet....send to bad guy. Cash is not the equivalent of BTC. Money deposited into a bank account would be the equivalent.

yawars20

Trump’s crypto venture is allegedly on the verge of collapse reminder that emotional, hype-driven markets can blow up fast. BTC is entering a potentially chaotic zone right as 1024EX launches AgentX. If it works, an AI agent could handle the 24/7 volatility, flash crashes, and FOMO that crush most humans. Perfect or lucky timing for a real stress test.

No-Masterpiece2246

What US BTC miners are censoring transactions? Marathon took a big hit for it.

Pugluvmeme

I have a hard time getting into BTC these days. I was around $100 but didn't successfully mine any. I bought at 3k, 5k, 25k sold at 29k and 75k. Now I'm into supporting my own meme. 1B supply, no energy to mine, and was early🤣. So to answer your question I watch and hope it goes up, trickle down effect seems to raise Solona and by extension my meme.

TheAweTistic

300k BTC would get me to sell a portion of it, but not all. My entry price is $17k

yawars20

Saw something similar on X a beta user showing 1024EX AgentX in action. The agent took a casual idea like “BTC might rally” and turned it into a full execution plan with entries, stops, position sizing, and risk filters automatically. If that demo reflects the launch version, it’s more than a bot it’s almost like having a strategist you can talk to.

Affectionate_Skin_80

Property or assets are traditionally physical BUT BTC is the only digital asset that’s considered property.

thatguy9158

Hodl until BTC payment rails expand Borrow against for immediate cash needs.

Sudden-Donut-4780

For someone brand new I'd probably say keep it stupid simple. The more steps involved the more likely they mess something up and lose funds, which... yeah that's a rough first experience lol I've had good luck with GhostSwap for exactly this kind of thing. No account setup, no KYC docs, you just pick your pair, paste your receiving address, send the crypto. Thats it. My sister used it to swap some BTC to MATIC and she barely knows what a blockchain is. Took like 15 minutes. Fees were reasonable too, not the cheapest on earth but way better than getting wrecked on ETH gas through a bridge. And the no-account thing is huge for beginners because they dont need yet another login to manage. Only caveat is he needs to already have a wallet address to receive into, so maybe help him set up a basic wallet first. Thats probably the biggest hurdle for total newbies tbh

2xfun

Why would they pore their wealth into BTC? The majority made their wealth with real estate are are crazy conservatives about investing…

Elean0rZ

"Why does it need to be hidden" is one way to look at it. "Why do authorities need to know" is another way. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. To frame it another way, we take for granted (or at least have historically taken for granted) that if we, say, pay cash for something, that transaction is essentially invisible to the authorities. That's not to say that, where required, we can't or shouldn't declare any tax implications of such transactions. But historically the onus has been on the individual to declare, and if they fail to do so we would view that as a failing of that person, not of the basic concept of paying cash in the first place. The question is, is the fact that something *can be* and perhaps even *is often* used to evade rules the fault of the "tool" or the person using it? These questions are increasingly coming up around the use of cash, with a reasonable likelihood that in the not-too-distant future physical cash will be essentially obsolete, closing the door to the idea of transactions that are invisible to authorities. Is it good or bad that the state knows I bought $50 bucks of corn at the farmer's market? What about my large order of magnum-size dildos? What about my order of anti-government lawn signs, or any other transaction that might conflict with the ideological preferences of the authorities of the time? Again, not pretending to have a definitive answer, but hopefully you can see that it gets at much deeper questions around privacy, autonomy, and the role of the state or other authorities. It's not just about banning BTC ATMs (which, again, in a vacuum I have no issue with); it's about the precedent and the risk of a slippery slope. Do have a look at Glen Greenwald's talk there, as you may find that you value the idea of privacy more than you think you do.

suckyuhhmada

Solid base you've got already. With $40k the approach most experienced folks recommend is heavy BTC/ETH (maybe 60-70%), then a smaller allocation to a few higher-conviction altcoins with real use cases rather than spreading thin. For the alt side, getting access to early-stage tokens before they list on major exchanges makes a noticeable difference in returns — BitMart tends to have a wider selection of those if you're looking to branch out beyond the obvious picks.

suckyuhhmada

Yeah this one feels off compared to previous runs. BTC holding doesn't mean much if it's just hiding broad weakness across the market. The alts being dead is the tell — in a real bull move you'd expect at least some rotation starting. This reads more like macro relief buying than actual conviction, and that unwinds fast once the headlines shift again.

bravedog74

It's not ideal, but send BTC to Coinbase. You could take a loan on Coinbase at that point, but Coinbase loans use Morpho on the Base network, which has higher APY. Instead, send the BTC to Ethereum L1 and it automatically converts to cbBTC. Using cbBTC as collateral, take out a loan on Morpho.org using Ethereum network. Rate has always been less than 4 percent as far as I know. Now you have to deal with risk of liquidation, risk of cbBTC, and risk of Morpho contracts. It's not perfect but it's an alternative if you don't want to sell BTC directly.

Ok_Golf_6467

3x next bull run and buy a house straight up. Exit completely aside from some generational BTC

Crypto-Bets

Even in the most Bearish case, BTC easily breaks $1million if the project remains secure.

roleplayms

Great to hear that your family member is actually open to learning, that makes a huge difference and for podcasts, I’d start them with What Bitcoin Did by Peter McCormack. It’s super approachable, has great interviews, and does a solid job explaining the fundamentals without being overly technical. In our family we combined podcasts with something more interactive. There’s this app called BTC BitByBit that’s built exactly for this, it has these short lessons and quizzes where you earn tiny sats while learning. My relatives use it alongside listening to pods and it’s helped turn the ideas into something practical (they even have a family mode for tracking progress together) which makes the whole process less intimidating. The key is consistency over intensity. A little bit every week compounds really well.

__redruM

The real lesson is to stop trying to day trade. Hold something conservative for the long term. Cash positions lose daily to inflation. Holding BTC for a year generally wins. But that’s not really conservative. Built a portfolio based on stock ETF funds and start really building wealth. VOO, QQQ, SMH.

BubbenKoppReloaded

I feel like BTC is a free money glitch. Its almost as certain as tommorows sun rise that it'll go back up. Im still investing every time.

AugustinesConversion

Because it's going to grow as fiat continues to be debased, and in the event of a complete USD collapse capital will flood to it like it would to other hard assets. Look at what happened to the BTC IRR price as an example.

Unhappy_Scar_8271

Big respect for jumping in at 15 with your own earned money, that’s the right mindset. Your first priority should be learning properly before putting serious cash in, you can focus on understanding self-custody, security, and the basics of why Bitcoin exists. There are some solid free resources like the ‘Bitcoin for Beginners’ series and the Bitcoin Whitepaper explained simply. Something that’s been really useful in our family is using an app built specifically for learning Bitcoin together. It’s called BTC BitByBit, It has these short interactive lessons, quizzes where you actually earn small sats, and a simple Lightning wallet to practice with tiny amounts. My younger relatives started with it and it made the concepts way more real and less intimidating. I can confidently say; it’s good for building habits safely. Whatever path you take, only use money you can afford to lose, start tiny, and get your own wallet set up early. Don’t rush. Are you currently learning this solo or does your family know you’re into it? 

randomwriteoff

Good that you’re thinking long term, that already puts you ahead of most people jumping into crypto. Biggest thing I wish I knew early is how volatile it actually is. Prices can drop 30–50% and still be “normal”. If you’re not prepared for that, it messes with your decisions. I started by keeping things simple, mainly BTC/ETH, and used platforms like eToro just to track everything in one place alongside other assets. Helps you not get too caught up in the hype side of crypto.

dasilma

I actually will promote my bitcoin YT channel for beginners. It’s called David Dasilma. That’s it. 63 episodes so far, literally created to teach BTC (plus overall investing lingo and so on) at the most basic levels.

Repulsive-Lake1753

Endgame is when things are priced in BTC. I will hang onto as much as I can or one whole bitcoin if I get there. At that point, it's the money to be used across the globe and i will also theoretically be paid in BTC however I am making money and I will try to spend some and save some just like I do with current dollars.

Kind-Principle-5311

I don't trust BTC 100%. but I still trust way better than other assets.

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egej

let me help all of you to see the broader horizon: Right now, BTC trading below 80 is basically the same as being able to buy BTC at half price - meaning the real price/value is the ATH, so i. other words, collectively the whales are buying/accumulating/moving coins to cold (long term) storage. When the whales slow or stop buying the price falls because they are the biggest drivers of demand. So the whales buy up to about 77/78 then stop buying to allow the price to cool, then start buying again at about 75/76.

AttemptKitchen

Who the fk uses BTC ATMs, they require KYC and the fees are absurdly high.

Prestigious-Stay-312

It is easier to buy, not easier to use. Most people still treat BTC like a trade, not money. Until people can hold it without checking price every 5 minutes, it's not really "everyday useable". Curious what would actually make that shift happen.

FullOf_Bad_Ideas

what other ways to buy BTC without KYC or digital trail Canadians have?

XapoBank

One bad headline and that macro instability could easily trigger a broader market spook, dragging us down to retest the lower $70ks before $80k ever actually breaks. It’s definitely a fragile foundation. But your read on the supply shock is exactly what people are sleeping on. Everyone is obsessing over Powell’s parting words and who is taking his seat, completely ignoring the raw math of the daily float. The daily mined supply is a drop in the bucket compared to what IBIT is vacuuming up. Right now, it feels like OTC desks are buffering the impact, but once those dry up and the ETFs are forced to aggressively scrape the open market for spot BTC, that unpriced supply shock won't just break the $80k wall, it’ll violently gap us up. Watching the liquidity is the only rational play right now. Let the tourists gamble on Fed semantics; the real alpha is watching the order books when the ETF buyers show up tomorrow.

lexicon_riot

We're entering a multi-polar, fragmented world, in which USD and every other major currency is headed for collapse. This "end of history" normalcy bias we've all lived under our entire lives, in which USD, Euro, etc. were usable is coming to an end. In a world where everyone distrusts each other, and where everyone is connected digitally, it's a solid bet that much of commerce will be driven by Bitcoin. Bitcoin doesn't even need to dominate payments in developed nations for it to be the dominant currency. Payment technology will allow you to auto convert your BTC into whatever the merchant accepts, just like what Square is doing now. Realistically I think local, circular Bitcoin economies will continue to grow and develop. Bitcoiners will flock to these places to further fuel that growth to be able to use it most effectively. I mean, empires throughout all of history have controlled and debased fiat, with a reversion back to sound money after they collapse or scale back. These large, over-extended sovereign powers don't maintain their influence in perpetuity.

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Only-Discipline4663

As long as macro stays supportive and inflows keep coming, BTC strength isn’t that surprising. The real question is whether this demand holds or slows once prices push higher : )

Mysterious-Elk-8043

Wild seeing one of these actually hit auction after all the speculation about who's got copies. Missing inserts definitely hurts the value though - those magazines were solid chunk of content that day Professional verification is smart move if you're dropping 1.2+ BTC on newspaper, even with the provenance story. Market's been curious what these would actually sell for so this sets some precedent

Reventon_317

The appeal of bitcoin treasury companies are to generate a BTC yield. Once think think in terms of BTC as the denominator everything makes more sense.

IndustryMaximum83

I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not lmao. Have you ever used one? You can put cash into it for BTC, and also sell BTC and get cash. So of course there’s cash in them.

Fearless-Sherbert-40

Don’t let people convince you, using cashapp is a bad idea. Cashapp has done a lot for the bitcoin community. I have bought almost all my bitcoin exclusively through Cash App. Just understand the limits, like you can’t withdrawal more the $2k worth a day. So never keep more than that on there. I have been using keep the change, automatic buys, and direct deposit distribution into BTC for years now and it has literally changed the financial direction of my life. You want an inexpensive hardware wallet with actual support, buy a Blockstream jade. I would stay away from products like the keystone and the bitbox. Nothing bad about those companies, they just don’t seem to offer a lot of support. Companies like Blockstream and Cronkite aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. I also use ledger devices as well.

2peg2city

Plenty of other ways to get BTC, this specifically targets scammers

Think-Sector-6329

Don't go all-in on BTC, especially not with your 401K. That money is your long term safetynet. BTC can outperform, but it can also dump hard, so I'd keep the 401K steady and build BTC separately with extra cash. Based on blueblocx, Sock, marty, and PC were trending lately, but treat those ith small high-risk plays, which you main portfolio keeps growing.

Crivos

If BTC returns to 100k the FOMO will be insane.

Xeon404

Potentially one day not having to consider money when making life decisions. Doubtful that BTC itself will accomplish this for me, but it will hopefully play a part.

Premium_Hunter

Just like everyone was confident we'd never go back below 100k... then 90k... then 80k... then 70k... No one knows a damn thing. BTC just does what it does. Queue people saying: "Not me! I knew we'd hit those levels again"

Premium_Hunter

Rate hold is priced in. If anything BTC will probably drop once that hold is confirmed (sell the news). If they raise or lower rates then big moves, accordingly, would almost certainly happen. Polymakret has the rate hold at 100% right now.

Plastic-Truck8241

No one will believe it until BTC hits zero!

Plastic-Truck8241

No one will believe it until BTC hits zero.

CryptoAfterWork

I trade, but I also buy some BTC and store it in a cold wallet. I don’t really have a target price. It’s more like an idea that I’ll just leave it for my grandchildren and hopefully they’ll thank me one day)))). Who knows, maybe by then BTC will be worth millions… or maybe not.

Remarkable_Ad5011

As soon as my BTC value and mortgage balance intersect, I’m out! Unfortunately, the way BTC has been behaving, and my stack barely being more than a few sats, it’s likely to intersect at just about the same time as my last payment is being sent. 😢

Ev_Watching

I’d separate 3 things that usually get mashed together: holding risk, yield risk, and borrowing risk. Your BTC/ETH/SOL/XRP already move around a lot. If you borrow USDC against them, you’ve added liquidation risk on top of price risk, which is where “my money is sleeping” can turn into “my money got woken up by a margin call.” Very annoying alarm clock. If I were learning this with $5k, I’d keep the long-term stack simple, then carve out a small sandbox for DeFi. Try something boring first: a small amount of USDC on a major lending market like Aave, understand where the yield comes from, how withdrawals work, what chain you’re on, and what can break. The question I’d ask before any yield product is: who’s paying me, why are they paying me, and what has to go wrong for me to lose money? I write about this stuff at Boring Money, mostly stablecoin yield and DeFi risk, and that’s still the filter I use. If you can’t explain the APY in 2 sentences, size it like tuition, not savings.

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

Alts are toast. They've been less impressive every cycle and that trend will continue. Buy BTC like the the other guy said. And honestly it's probably even a bit too early to buy BTC still.

Gmcgator

What you’re missing is that if/when the investors of ibit shares sell, BlackRock will also sell the underlying. They don’t care about btc other than as a way to make money either way. MSTR buys BTC too, and just passed BlackRock in total coins, and those coins are off the market for good

SlowArtPlanet

BTC holding strong while alts still lagging usually means rotation hasn’t fully started yet. If dominance stalls here, selective market can turn broad real quick. For now money still trusts BTC first.

GIGAbtcHodl

It must be. Some treasuries hold a big chunk of BTC. Institutions as well

Spiritual_Bend_3778

7.99% sounds sexy until BTC sneezes and your collateral gets nuked lol but fr why I prefer just using Oobit instead, no debt, no collateral stress, just spend straight from your wallet when needed

facaila888

Maybe the next Fed Chair will be even worse than Powell, just like how we once thought Biden was awful. Anyway, BTC will reach new highs again. Short-term trading is basically gambling, so let’s just wait and see

facaila888

In my opinion, I might sell a portion when the price goes up, but I won’t sell all my BTC at once. In the future, BTC will definitely be accepted by more countries and used for everyday payments. It serves as a store of value in my wallet

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__redruM

Isn’t BTC supposed to go up in times like these? Or are you actually posting stock market FUD in a crypto subreddit.

ShittingOutPosts

Drop the alts. Just buy and hold BTC.

Falcons74

If hash rate falls, then security goes down. As of right now, according to AI the cost of a 51% attack is $10Billion and tens of millions per day in electricity cost. If bitcoin becomes really big and the hash rate falls and makes an attack even cheaper, some foreign actor may want to execute the attack to cripple BTC and bring down America with its BTC reserve and the fact its about 40% ownership by Americans. Of course I’m just an amateur and you’re the person writing the book, I would like to know your thoughts on this

GrumpyDescartes

I’m not very experienced in crypto, nor economics. Might be a stupid question- Will the world see BTC (or any other similar token) as an asset class or a common transactional currency say 10/20/30 years from now? Or both?Will the end game not depend on where in that spectrum BTC will be?

DailyUpsAndDowns

The Strait of Hormuz needs to open and tolls paid in BTC.

KNTXT

1. Bitcoin *is* money 2. It's literally a different game. No one can change its rules, no one can inflate it, no one controls it. Yes, the supply can be effectively increased by loaning more BTC into existence, but the fact that no one can bail anyone out will mean a much more prudent loans market and presumably highly muted boom and bust cycles compared to fiat currency. I kind of get your notion of *all money is a scam*, since scarcity in goods and services is somewhat of an artificial construct, but even if we reach a point where governments somehow produce/pay for themselves (no taxes), and where all basic goods, services and commodities are produced so efficiently that charging for them makes more hassle than its worth, then there will still be scarce items like fine art, historical cars, beachfront real estate, etc. which cannot be made more of. Trading of such items will still require the existence of a currency (barter is also an option, but it's just a way less efficient way of trading compared to money).

simonbuildstools

2.1 BTC is more than most people here have, .. . so realistically you’re already ahead. The issue isn’t the stack . . the decisions around it. If nothing changes then same mistakes will cost you again.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

Kinda feels like the vibe just matured tbh. Back then everyone I knew was hyped on “next ETH killer” type plays, and group chats were just nonstop altcoin shilling. Now those same people are way more cautious after getting burned on stuff like LUNA and FTX. I don’t think it’s just one thing, more like a combo of big blowups + people realizing a lot of projects didn’t deliver. So sentiment shifted toward “stick with what actually survived.” Even in my circle, the convo went from chasing random alts to mostly BTC/ETH and maybe a few picks people actually understand. The hype isn’t gone, it’s just way more selective now. Feels less like a free-for-all and more like people actually questioning things before piling in.

ChrisBattle2000

Also, it is amazing that he reaches such a doomster conclusion on BTC. His field is System Dynamics, a field which I have studied and worked in for over 20 years. Saylor makes amazing economic arguments using SD concepts and is responsible for a lot of the finance sector's pivot to BTC, so how come Keen can not see the value proposition? That is what I find inexplicable

TheRhythmTheRebel

Person with vested interest in BTC says it’s worth a lot more than it is currently and to hold fire. In other news. Water is wet.

xanokothe

I just need ETH 20k and BTC 250k, is it too much to ask?

unknowngloomth

Man, the amount of bullish news posted in this sub is insane. BTC was supposed to be back at $100k but the market seems to not give a damn. Lmaoo

Sensitive_Double_277

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InventoryLogic

2.1 BTC is not “nothing”. But the question is not whether you can “make it”. The question is whether you can stop turning the stack into a decision-making problem. Most people lose because they put their whole future on the next move. Then every candle becomes emotional, every drawdown becomes personal, and every decision gets worse. If I were in your position, I would separate survival from upside. Get income first. Job, business, side income, whatever. Something that pays life expenses without forcing you to sell or overtrade the BTC. Then the BTC stack is no longer your oxygen. It becomes inventory. That changes everything. You don’t need to all-in. You don’t need to give up. You need a structure where your life does not depend on the next Bitcoin move. That is usually where people finally start making better decisions.

Impressive_Pilot8415

Only BTC.

Important-Minimum777

Wouldn't that require them to transfer the coins to trustee? Just like when you finance a loan with your BTC, you have to transfer them to a holder.

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howardkhan

It’s never to late to start but don’t go all in if you aren’t ready to see the negative as that will happen with Bitcoin, The best option is you DCA with your weekly 350$ weather you do it daily or weekly is up to you BTC is already at 70k which is a good Discount coming from 120k so yeah, I personally am stacking a lot but always remember this… don’t brag about your holdings and keep it private and keep stacking:)

MCL-Jonathan

Only a select few will survive, gotta pick and select wisely. For risk management purposes, focus on building a larger BTC bag

King-esckay

Already took out more than I put in If i need anything for external reasons I borrow against what I am holding I dont worry about the risk becauae the very worst thing that can happen is I am ahead. Each month I buy btc to the value of interest being charged on loan. I will either pay off the loan for less than I borrowed Or I will lose some BTC, doesn't really matter though because I otherwise would have sold it.

cryptolipto

I would keep that stack of BTC and start adding alts. Specifically chainlink

Chucklum

When i was getting into it yes. However you quickly realize you are better off with your mouth shut. Because either A- it goes down and its your fault, or B- it goes up and jealousy is a hell of a thing. I just focus on life and will have a conversation about BTC, try and avoid the subject now.

OpeningSuspect8584

2.1 BTC? you’re already ahead of most people here. you don’t need to chase plays anymore just protect and grow it smarter. some people are using Coindepo to earn on their BTC instead of risking it all trading. no need to give up… just switch strategy

PuzzleheadedBell4057

Too much analysis. I just keep it simple. The 15th of every month $200 ea into BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP. No charts required. No thinking required. The only thing required is to take action.

DarthBen_in_Chicago

Ok. Some employers permit you to open a brokerage account within your 401k (mine does). I buy the BTC ETF in it using my contributions plus some of the employer match.

Adventurous-Peace691

Miners mostly sell what they mine, something like 70-90%, thats why the cycle matters, every cycle has half as much BTC hitting markets from miners

giulian74

All good, but do you think Nakamoto (or whoever) wanted a BTC as we see and know it today? Are you sure? They were cyberpunks and believed in a different modus operandi. Are BTC, for the sake of the one-Mg block, and Blockstream and the Lighting Network, what they expected?

Due-Candy-8929

BTC is way down at the moment… but your framing is really weird… Not giving up looks like… GOING AND GETTING A JOB, and keeping what you have in the market 🫠 If your plan is to eat away at what you have left then by the time we see all time highs you will have eaten away your potential getting there, and will likely owe tax on what you pulled out as well (assuming you still actually bought your BTC at much lower prices) Personally I would be aiming to not touch that and give it time in the market to cook… and in the meantime you can put the fries in the bag to buy yourself extra time

RecklessStallion9999

Nah, I’ve mentioned it once or twice like a joke but nothing more. I also hate it when people try to push their beliefs on me and I don’t want to jeopardize my job. But i have applied a couple of pro-BTC stickers that I got from ordering my signers on the inside of each floor’s elevator door at times when I’ve been alone - it’s an old building and no one cares, plus there’s no cameras inside the elevator.