BTC

MaximumStudent1839

> This would defeat the purpose of Bitcoin to begin with.  Right now, the consensus around BTC is that it is a "number-go-up" technology. Most ppl suspect those old wallet owners have lost keys to access them. So they won't migrate and eventually get hacked. The threat is the FUD around the Satoshi wallet getting hacked and dumped poses too much headwind for BTC as a number-go-up technology. So in the current iteration around the consensus for BTC's purpose, it is fully aligned.

Brave_Goal_1300

I usually anchor on the most liquid market I would actually execute on, then keep 1 or 2 alternate feeds beside it to check wick differences. For BTC that usually means a big perp venue plus a major spot feed. If the structure only exists on one thin pair, I usually treat it as suspect. I am building Effortless Chart, a crypto-only multi-chart dashboard in beta right now, mostly because doing these comparisons tab by tab got old fast.

Urc0mp

Michael Sailor should buy all the sell bets he can and then sell 1 BTC. Could use the profit to buy more bitcoin. That's what a real bitcoin maximalist would do.

PheelGoodInc

That's how much money they manage. It looks good in a title. A fraction of that will be going into BTC.

causefuckkarma

Old wallets on the current blockchain, public keys visible, so the attacker already has them. Upgrade the network to use quantum safe cryptography. Then quantum computing happens that can run Shor's algo... Now, if someone approaches the blockchain with old private keys, that predates quantum safe cryptography, what will you do? There is no way to tell if they are the legitimate holder or someone who had access to a quantum computer.. Up to 33% (7 million BTC) is stuck in lost, dead, wallets. Can you imagine the price crash if people even thought that this would be flooding into the exchanges? That's over 500 billion in a commodity that has a liquidity cap of under 2.

Practical-Tap-5348

What are you in rn? Anything else besides BTC and ETH?

Skepsis93

Maybe in Bitcoin city in El Salvador, but you're deluding yourself if you think the average realtor is going to close a deal in BTC for you.

James-the-Bond-one

What difference would that make? BTC is mainstream now, not a secret cult. 

Abject-Stretch-1187

Maybe it’s because people still see a fixed supply asset as more volatile than Nasdaq & S&P(financial products that are way older and perceived as less volatile than BTC) 

bigskinnybubba123

Well ... When I buy BTC on robinghood I then send it to my dry wallet in increments. When I do this I can see their wallets that they send from. The ones I seen were for 2 and another had 4 million dollars worth of I remember correctly (havnt transfered in about a year). I have a good feeling that they don't truly purchase all of the crypto that customers order. And they probably pocket the cash and what do they do with the cash? Who knows. However I do have a small amount of BTC I need to transfer off of Robinhood again. I just use it to buy weed lol. I wonder how much there wallet will display when I check the senders wallet again lol .. hmm You know anyone can do it just send urself 10 dollars. And trace back the sender. It ain't rocket science.

Top-Care-8946

If it is really possible then I think that Bitcoin will become a manipulative tool which leads to crash of the whole crypto currency market because it means loss of trust. It was always promised that bitcoin can't be compromised but turns out that locks are meant for animals only, the humans will always find a way to unlock (crack or decrypt) the "lock". I got recently an idea that BTC might have been implemented to give the US a leverage or tool which helps to reduce national debt. And whoa if reading these news it may not be just an "unthinkable" mad conspiracy theory- It might to be more real than we can imagine. Just in case by the fact, Japan holds ca 1.2T of US debts and then why there are only 21M Bitcoins released to mine: I think that these two numbers are tied with each other by mirroring and message is encrypted: 12=21. Nobody has yet figured out who really is Satoshi Nakamoto and so on. It might be just a secret financial project as plan B to save US financial system and national currency USD.

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ice-ink

> The few people who became millionaire with BTC are still nothing compared to billionaires, and that does nothing against wealth concentration, unlike what a lot BTC lovers seem to believe. Hold on. There never was a fork, where we had to choose between “abolish all billionaires and redistribute their wealth fairly among the world population” and “create bitcoin”. Bitcoin is just a handy tool accessible to anyone, that allows you to safely and securely store your money. I don’t know what those “btc lovers” are saying, but the alternative to the world we have now, where billionaires hoard all the money and bitcoin exists, is the world where billionaires hoard all the money, but without bitcoin. There’s a lot of wrong shit happening worldwide, a lot of injustice and things to hate, but btc in and of itself is definitely a net positive for millions of people, and the only reason to hate it is if you don’t understand what it actually is.

InteractionUsed9334

No I get you... but you're framing is wrong, you can sell 20k everytime the price rise 25% from one position. If you add in timing to your equation... so say you factored in massive swings... you simply say... when btc is 100k, I will sell 20k worth and then when it's 125k, I can sell another 20k worth... and so on... but you have to set those benchmarks. That's your exit plan... to DCA your way out and that works as long as the price of BTC continues to rise at 25% per year... on average but you can't sell every year, you have to sell at the price positions. You're also assuming that past performance will continue. I'm not saying it won't but if it doesn't, or some other stuctural change happens to where BTC doesn't continue to grow at the 25%, you can't hit those benchmarks as your system will fail. So you're using physics and I love that but you're using physics at the wrong angle. There's nothing in the nature of BTC that's going to guarantee you the same results going forward. It's assumed that BTC will just rise in price forever and well, I'm not sure that's going to bear out. It may but it's also sort of impossible so I would really try to get the math right. The system that you described would have worked up till now... if you paced your sells at the proper level... not the $1700 per month withdrawal amount you are stating. I don't even need to backtest it... I've backtested every candle of BTC since it's inception lots of times using my own algorithms so I already know, you'd be flat busted real fast. But if you set sell orders at those levels... when they execute and they should as time progresses... I would set them at a full $20k dump and leave it as a hidden sell on some CEX. That would work and that might fund you for quite a while. But just selling $1700 a month of it isn't going to pan out... I would check your python and ensure you're getting your variables correct. You have to be missing some candles if you're backtesting and that equation you described actually worked. It can't... sorry... it just can't.

ubermensch1001

By the 2028 halving there will be something like 650k BTC remaining to be mined and by 2032 it will be 300-350k or so.

Legitimate_Amoeba249

The rehypothecation angle is interesting but here's what most people miss about that 40% dump — it wasn't just a 40% drop in dollar terms. When you factor in that grocery prices, gas, and rent all went UP during the same period, the real purchasing power drop was closer to 45-50%. Your BTC lost dollar value AND the dollars it's measured in bought less stuff. Double hit that nobody talks about.

welshdragoninlondon

This always depends on how much you investing if you investing 100 dollars may aswell risk on ALTS but if investing large amounts I would stick to BTC

xaviemb

OP doesn't yet realize that he's asking himself to stack 2.5BTC (we are all Satoshi)

Murder_1337

Thieves don’t know this. What if you encounter a non-sophisticated thief who just knows that you have Bitcoin but doesn’t know anything about the security layers you put into place. They just know you have some and they want it. You’d be trying to convincing someone who just thinks you’re lying. They just know BTC is worth a lot and assume you’re lying about not giving it up. It’s just better to protect yourself.

Blackiris-Code

The few people who became millionaire with BTC are still nothing compared to billionaires, and that does nothing against wealth concentration, unlike what a lot BTC lovers seem to believe. You're extremely wrong about the cost of running BTC. Even if we combined all the other cryptocurrencies including all obscure shitcoins, it wouldn't even be 10% of what BTC uses. And it has nothing to do with BTC's TVL.

Working_Sherbert_176

If this happens because of your 2.5BTC the whole market will crash big times and your 2.5 BTC won't be so worthy anymore

ubermensch1001

Yeah, man, I totally agree with you but it's insanely obvious that tradfi institutions are going to be the avenue to which the masses gain exposure to crypto. ETFs like Morgan Stanley or Vanguard, earning stable bond like yield with Strategy, etc. I could even see tradfi institutions offering services where they can custody BTC for their customers, something like a CD or savings account that is FDIC insured, etc. I think this in particular is going to be big because it would allow BTC holders to lend these assets out, use them as collateral for loans, etc. This is still a ways off though, probably 2040 or later.

Pebble-Jubilant

When you buy BTC on an exchange, you don't own the coins. If the exchange closes, you can kiss them goodbye. After your purchase, get it into your wallet ASAP.

Extreme-Benefyt

Saylor's explanation kinda tracks: when cheap leverage dries up, the forced sellers show up and BTC dumps fast. Still feels like he's framing it as "just mechanics" and ignoring that sentiment/risk-off does half the work too

R4ID

So a decade plus of all the BTC bozo's claiming XRP can be frozen on the XRPL (which it can't) They now come out and want to freeze BTC on chain.... You cant make this nonsense up

remithril

Long term BTC will go up. But now in the next few weeks we can't say if it will go up or down. If it follow what happened in 2022 it will go down again but we can't be 100% sure. Best thing to do is DCA those 10k. And you probably won't retire at 50 with 10k invested today. And this depends on your age today, the cost where you live and inflation of prices.

retro_grave

Yeah better let 1/21 of the BTC supply be left to the first quantum computer! That's a solid pot of gold and puts the Nobel prize money to shame ;)

anon1971wtf

Depends on will miners mine it or not, same with BTC/BCH, same with Knots movement seemingly reaching conclusion in August

Murder_1337

Don’t let anyone know you have BTC man. You will place a target on your back.

Brave_Goal_1300

TradingView is still the default if you want full charting, but for pure BTC price tracking I’d split it into two jobs: - CoinGecko or CoinMarketCap for fast headline price checks - TradingView or Binance if you actually care about structure, levels, and multiple timeframes The annoying part for me wasn’t BTC itself, it was watching BTC plus a whole alt watchlist without constantly flipping layouts. Builder here, I ended up making a crypto-only multi-chart dashboard for that workflow because most tools are fine for one pair and messy for many. If you’re only tracking BTC casually, CoinGecko is enough. If you’re trading, chart layout matters more than the raw ticker source.

Tai9ch

I'm no fan of the BTC devs, but this is probably a good idea as long as there's plenty of warning and it's staged properly. Without freezing quantum-vulnerable wallets at some point they're just a prize for whoever gets a big enough quantum computer first. I'm not even sure that's a bad thing, but the BTC chain has a lot of early UXTOs that will likely never move again.

jclaslie

Sounds like a dumb idea which could backfire horrifically. If they freeze early wallets they set a precedent which leaves room for new freezes in the future. The appeal of BTC was always the permissionless part...

ProfitableCheetah

You can't stake BTC, unless it's a protocol built on top of BTC, which adds unnecessary risk for unstable returns.

forsenbois21

Wasting my time on altcoins this last sycle was my first and my last to trust other thing than BTC or BTC derivates.

J5966358

Ah so I finally need to move my 10k BTC? Hope this can be done in my jail. 

InteractionUsed9334

So I have 1 BTC worth $100k. I sell it and get 20k out... I now have .8 Btc. So now to keep this moving, to sell another 20k and still have 80k worth of BTC, BTC has to be at $125k and so you sell .16 btc. IF BTC is not $125k... if it fell back down to say $50k... well, now you're sort of in trouble here bud. I now have .64 btc left. If the price of BTC hits $156,250 then you can sell it for 20k and still have 80k left of BTC value. To figure this out, you start with **B** BTC and want to: * Sell an amount of dollars **S** * And end with a remaining dollar value **R** Then the required BTC price **P** is: **P=(S+R)/B** Now to maintain that... you need to take the derivative so you can always have a 20k withdrawal and at least an 80% value remaining in the token. dQ/dP=−80,000/P\^2 This is the exact slope of the curve you must stay on to maintain: * **Sell $20k** * **End with $80k remaining value** * **Every step** If you want to maintain: * Sell amount = **S** * Remaining value = **R** Then the invariant curve is: **Q(P)=R/P** And the slope is: **dQ/dP=−R/P\^2** So you'd need a constant growth rate of 25%. BTC has been growing like that on average but... and this is a big BUT... BTC’s **2024 return was +121% and** BTC’s **2025 return was –6.34%.** So right there, your law is busted. I love the idea of what you're saying but backtesting and real trading aren't the same thing. BTC doesn't follow a law, it follows a market. In 2020 it went down to $4k. If Google figures out how to unwind your keys in 9minutes, the price drops to $0. So this isn't a law, it's a theory and not a great one.

joos_hubert

The low APR is usually more about structure than magic. If a loan is overcollateralized, automated, and has clear liquidation rules, the lender can price it much lower than unsecured credit. That said, I would not focus on headline APR alone. The things I’d check first are: - actual total cost, not just APR - how aggressive the liquidation threshold is - whether the rate is variable - what wrapping/custody assumptions you’re accepting - what support looks like if markets move fast The biggest risk is usually not the advertised rate, it’s collateral risk. If BTC drops hard, your LTV matters a lot more than the marketing copy. If it were me, I’d only even consider this with a very conservative LTV and after reading the liquidation mechanics end to end.

winphan

LTC and BTC for life.

Deep_Decision4441

While MSTR refuses to provide their btc addresses for reasons (which I don't love), they ARE audited regularly by respected auditors, which would presumably raise any red flags about missing BTC.

InteractionUsed9334

YES! Absolutely wonderful. That's precisely what I did with my money back in the day. LOL. One quick note about Dollar Cost Averaging. DCA is great but I like to suggest that people hold onto thier USD or whatever fiat they're using to buy BTC. Hold it and wait for a substantial drop in the BTC price. Wait for a whale dump to enter and then buy into the market. Also don't spend all your USD. Always keep some in reserve. Remember back in 2021 it went down to under $4k for a hot minute? Wouldn't you have loved to have had an extra $4k at that point? This video is exactly how the market works. Crypto markets are susceptible to manipulation and if you know the game, you can try to get ahead of it. You know whales do pump and dumps so if you can time your entry correctly and keep some powder dry, you may not lose your stake.

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CraftyBrother6974

I'm a BTC maxi sooo...

Jayson330

Spent it. Originally was paid to do some graphic design work by a friend. He payed me 3 BTC when it was at $1k. He was like "hey get yourself something nice because who knows what's going to happen." I sold 1 at 1k to buy a Nikon F6. Later when it hit $21k my car was dying so I sold another one at $21k to buy a new Subaru that I still drive. Sold a little bit more because I decided to go to graduate school.

Artemis647

24 BTC = 1.7 million That would be a pretty nice inheritance!

AlbiBambi

Everyone with even a bit of wealth holds BTC. That has to tell you something

Mj_6o4

Would bet my bag the US & Israel control/own the vast majority of BTC at this point. 🤷‍♂️

Sapper_Initiative538

He asked what happens when he is buying BTC ? the government(and the exchange of course) knows that he bought those BTC. So what if he transfer those BTC from exchange to his self custody wallet ? You imply that he could lie and tell the govt that those BTC that he bought got transfered to some unknown person as a personal debt or purchase ( 3 large pizzas ) Self custody doesn't answer how you buy those BTC.

HansonWK

The chain is completely disconnected from the price. A BTC bought for 85k is the exact same as one bought for 40k. The price is soley based on how much exchanges are selling them for, or in the case, selling the promise of one for.

No_Broccoli_4427

BTC is designed to keep a time scheduled not the other way around

No-Masterpiece2246

Nobody said the price dropped any other time due to rehypothecation, only that it's part of what is driving the latest 40% dump. The other times it dumped were due to market panics and exchanges/projects going bankrupt or rugging their investors. BTC ETFs are not a "small minority", they trade the vast majority of daily volume at this point.

No-Masterpiece2246

Blackrock and 20 other BTC ETFs have been doing it for over a year, since before Trump took office. Looks like the deal went something like this: "I'll fire everyone at the SEC who is harassing crypto companies so Wall Street can engage in rehypothecation and fraud, then I'll launch 10 shitcoins and sell them to noobs to get my slice of the pie".

LostParlay_Again

for BTC mining it’s still mainly ASICs, and profitability mostly depends on electricity cost, so check the numbers first

Captain_Coty

The question you should ask yourself is "do you need the money now?" If so, then take it.  Otherwise, you will never be able to outsmart the market and buy low/sell high.  If you believe in BTC like many of us here, the price today really doesn't matter. 

g7008

Take no profits. Never sell and get a BTC loan. It's cheaper than paying taxes on the BTC that was sold.

PatientReasonable348

And people who are in crypto for years keep calling for a $30K BTC...

Present-Ad-9703

If it were me, I’d keep most in BTC and maybe a smaller portion in higher risk alts. Main thing to watch is liquidity and clear use, not hype. Tip, DCA instead of all in. Volatility can hit hard short term.

OscarCorterz_20

I am an average Joe who could have got 1 BTC for $3K but didn't because a youtuber told me it's going to $1.5K. Don't be as average as me, be better

2xfun

Everyone here is following the Cowen rhetoric and hence expecting tge 4 cycle to play out (bottom around Oct) … I believe BTC will BTC and fuck everyone in the ass.

OscarCorterz_20

I see people in different subreddits saying they are shoring BTC for "easy money" so I guess ATH is coming very soon

Gangaman666

Stick to what you know and stop lying online. Or show evidence. BTC was not created by Epstein dumbass. Low IQ idiots like you fall for all the fake headlines and love to spout off on reddit it's pathetic!

HoldCtrlW

Shorting BTC for a few days now. Easy money

bburd134

Yea because BTC IS the basket.

Murky_Citron_1799

Yeah no need to hold any Bitcoin at all to sell IOUs. Sounds like a big problem when that IOU BTC rises in price. They are basically shorting BTC 

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

This feels kinda overthought tbh. Nobody I know is sitting around plotting some reverse psychology campaign just to get more fiat. Most of my friends just treat BTC as a place to park money they don’t fully trust in banks, not as a replacement for paying rent or groceries. Also the whole “returns value vs extracts value” framing feels a bit forced. Both systems only have value because people agree they do and keep using them. From what I’ve seen, people just move between fiat and crypto depending on what they need at the moment. It’s less ideology, more convenience and vibes.

FitCompetition1804

Same. Started DCA in February. I’ve bought very small amounts of BTC in the past, so I don’t really count that. Either going to pay off long term, or it’s going to be a bag holder situation. Don’t care and am not fearful. Holding for at least 20 years. I believe.

Normal_Silver4582

I used BTC exactly once and that was to buy "drugs" a.k.a my estrogen which i aint a prescription for Like seriously what is BTC for beside criminal and shady businesses , 90% of people share their whole live on social media but you think they care if scary giv knows what i spend money on xd Decentralized my ass half the Bitcoins are institutionalized lol

Conchi13

Il me semble qu'il est possible de connaître le nombre de personne ou la proportion de personne qui detiennent : >1000 BTC > 100 BTC > 10 BTC .. etc Je connais plus le site Mais ça permet d'avoir un aperçu du nombre de whales, et autres détenteurs de btc

Romanizer

Only 2 BTC to land in the Top10 holders of that exit liquidity scam.

ThreeTonChonker

Oh ok so like Ukraine or Iran or all these other countries whose societies are collapsing and they’re turning to BTC because it’s the only thing that’s stable? I swear the least intelligent people on the internet post in this sub.

WellPayed

Long BTC is free money

AmberSeduceX

Honestly I’d change the same thing stopped chasing shiny alts earlier and just stacked BTC. Most of them bleed out over time while BTC keeps absorbing value, and now with yield options coming in it feels like the game’s shifting for real,

cyger

The fastest way to real wealth is concentrated bets on high CAGER assets. I would go 50% BTC ETF and 50% AI stocks. Maybe put 10% in an ETH and SOL bases ETF as well.

ThreeTonChonker

Same game that were played with GameStop. Wall Street pretends they have BTC/GME/whatever and lets you buy it from them. But they don’t have it, and never did, and for whatever reason it’s not illegal. The only reason the house of cards doesn’t collapse is because they never get called out on it or have to prove they’re holding the amount that they’ve sold to customers.

AmberSeduceX

Morgan Stanley stepping in with \~$83M is a pretty bullish signal, shows big tradfi players are still quietly stacking BTC.

ShittingOutPosts

You! How much do you want to bet there will be zero restrictions on rehypothecating Bitcoin in the Clarity Act (if it ever passes)? Banks want to custody BTC for a reason…

dreampsi

Then why even pay on 10 BTC , just offer it on paper with no BTC same difference in 19 cases.

ozera202

Should I sell my shit coin BTC for Rave

Wiggly-Pig

So. How does this work with BTC that has fixed supply and can't just be printed like normal money to make up this gap when the shit hits the fan. Will everyone's actual custodial bitcoin go up in value to cover this gap?

WackySnaky

It is what it is. Lucky i also had/have a decent bag of BTC and ETH

atlasayn

Good breakdown, but I'd push back on the overall BEARISH read — you're looking at one side of the book. What your analysis captures: * Longs crowded → yes, L/S at 1.25 slightly long-leaning * OI elevated → yes, z-score +2.28 (30-day high) — amplified volatility risk * Liquidation cluster density → yes, downside sweep probable What it misses from the same data: * Funding has already gone **negative** (-0.41%) — shorts are paying longs. That's not "stubborn longs who didn't exit," that's the market already pricing in bearish positioning * 4,805 BTC moved off exchanges today — self-custody accumulation, inconsistent with distribution * F&G at 23 (EXTREME FEAR) — historically contrarian positive on 12-week windows * Macro decoupled, liquidity easing (Fed BS +1.7%), $377B stablecoin dry powder The derivatives stack you're running is pointing to volatility risk (OI z-score, liquidation clusters) — that's real. But "volatility risk" ≠ "bearish bias." My deterministic system reads the same data and outputs: CAUTIOUS L3, 42% max size, **LONG\_PREFERRED**, binding Cycle (POST-PEAK). Not aggressive, but not bearish either. The difference: when signals conflict (crowded longs + negative funding + extreme fear + outflows), the right read isn't to pick a direction — it's to reduce size and wait for confirmation. A 42% max with long preference captures that better than a binary BEARISH call. System I use for this: [https://github.com/likidodefi/riskstate-docs](https://github.com/likidodefi/riskstate-docs)

nikanjX

You have traded away your weapons, food and outdoor clothes for 0.00525 BTC. You are the king of the dystopian plains. 

Affectionate-Sort730

If the market behaves *as if* there are 200BTC instead of 10BTC, then this increases the perceived supply, while the demand remains roughly the same. Since supply increases and demand does not, prices goes down.

New_Laugh1587

You are asking about exit plan, because you are thinking in fiat. For BTC maxi, Bitcoin is the end game. Study Bitcoin and find out what is money.

Rare_Rich6713

Same here with ALGO and DOT, I wish I dumped it all for BTC.

Rare_Rich6713

Sorry you went through that, we both suffered the loss. Since then have been all about BTC.

harpocryptes

>They then take your 10 BTC and sell it 20 times to other customers, who don’t self custody but essentially have a claim to 10 BTC You're describing fraud. Who exactly is commiting this fraud?

Rare_Rich6713

Bitcoin has a higher chance of surviving than any other alt, it's not about chasing unrealistic gains for me; it's about getting 2X maybe and some extra gain from staking some of my BTC on Babylon, that's it. I invested heavily in alts at some point, and it crashed me.

TempMobileD

They “bought” 10 and “sold” 200 in the example above, by playing a shell game with the same 10 BTC. If you sell 190 BTC that you pulled out of your ass and didn’t need to buy, what happens to the price?

box_of_hornets

Because of 10BTC creating 200BTC of downward pressure

evandollardon

Alts got wrecked, but that's kind of the deal every cycle. BTC holds up, alts bleed, then when the halving narrative kicks in everything rips and people forget the pain. I've been using this stretch to stack BTC and let it earn yield on Nexo while we wait. 720 days is a long time to just sit and do nothing with your bags.

alt-co

I agree, the banking/AML point is underrated. For larger holders, the sell decision is only half the job. The other half is making sure the cash-out is actually bankable. Here is what is the documentation needed to off-ramp at size: \- clean source of funds/wealth \- exchange trade extracts (via read-only api, for the exchanges that are still around) \- a clear trail showing how the position was built over time \- forensic report from Scorechain/Chainalysis or other reputable blockchain forensic tool A lot of legitimate holders can face friction here, especially early adopters, high frequency traders, ETH ICO participants, miners, DeFi users & privacy coin users. Old exchanges are gone, records are usually incomplete, wallets touched platforms that flag your wallets as "high risk" exposure (BTC-e, Mt. Gox or Cryptsy). Assembling all this information and presenting it in a way that a compliance officer can understand and accept can be challenging. Even "crypto friendly" banks can get cautions when a large wire from an exchange hits a client's account. That's why preparation matters, before the sale not after.

altFINS_official

We did an article about BTC and Quantum computers, if you would like to have more detals: [https://altfins.com/knowledge-base/can-quantum-computers-break-bitcoin/](https://altfins.com/knowledge-base/can-quantum-computers-break-bitcoin/)

Digital_Oceans

You have 10 BTC, you want to borrow against it. You send it to a lender and they give you $ at a fixed interest rate. They then take your 10 BTC and sell it 20 times to other customers, who don’t self custody but essentially have a claim to 10 BTC, this is essentially the lender borrowing 200 BTC worth of dollars with a 5% backing and 0 interest rate. So, the 10 BTC you have just borrowed against has created 200 BTC of downward pressure. ELI5 of ELI5 this is just fractional reserve banking, its existed for centuries in gold markets. I think Saylor is on some more BS.

J5966358

I know this is full-on cliche but a decent percentage of my BTC are actually the exit plan. 

madladchad3

I personally believe that’s bullshit explanation as that’s a small minority of people doing that, and if the market believed BTC was undervalued (because of this type of manipulation), then people would just buy more Bitcoin, making it go right back up. Bitcoin is just following the same pattern it’s been following for the last 16-17 years. Did hypothecation cause Bitcoin to drop 80% 4 years ago? 8 years ago? What about 12 years ago?? Saylor trying to use big words so he can trick the average people into thinking he knows what he’s talking about.

Grand_Master_Gosh

Honestly, if I had 10 BTC right now, I'd probably split it. A good chunk would go into long-term holding, for sure. But I'd also set aside some to diversify into other assets that I believe have strong fundamentals, not just speculative plays. Maybe even use a small portion for some passion projects or investments that align with my values. It's always good to have a mix, imo.

feenixOmlette

I think there is a use case for steady state BTC. That is, once the hypothetical biggest idiot has bought btc, and there are no further idiots that want to buy, at that point btc value should theoretically freeze and increase no higher. However at that point if QE occurs and money is printed, btc will increase on that principle alone. And thus it just becomes an inflation hedge like digital gold anyway.

GIGAbtcHodl

You just accept the fact that it's volatile before you invest a single penny, you tell yourself that you are in for 5-10 years at least and that you won't sell even if your stack drops 50%, you work hard to be able to have more buying power to acquire more BTC, you DCA, you don't fall for FOMO, your emotions are not involved in investments. That should do for the start

giregam

There are only about 950,000 addresses with 1 BTC or more, and when you account for exchanges and lost keys, the number of actual individuals who own a whole coin is likely well under 700,000.

The-Happy-Mannequin

What's the point of BTC with a single entity that controls so much of the supply.