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itllbefine21

I agree with you. She started out strong and kept her bias pretty much in check. Then her personal views started to color her podcasts and I just couldn't take it anymore. I like Stephan Livera. Citadel dispatch and what Bitcoin did when Peter was host have the big brains on usually. But sometimes it gets a little more into the mechanics of function than current events. Lawrence leppard, Bitcoin mechanic, matt Odell, Lynn Alden are all good guests. I really like NVK, he's set in his mind and mostly opinionated but I like that he believes in his cause and fights for it. There a few others. You can basically just search BTC in Spotify and find 20 to test out.

Th3onib

BTC drops at least 77% in bear markets from its top, and that's about 30k, anyone that thinks we don't see that believes in miracles. It also would surprise me if we wick down to 25k. A lot of people are leveraged, when we start going below 40, a lot of those people will have to start selling. The cycle is the cycle until it's not, and until it shows us the cycle is different, anyone thinking 50k is a good buy definitely has more then one azholes on their body

riscten

I like this approach. As long as you buy back the BTC it's all good! Spend and replace.

Lindson88

So BTC cap is $21 Quadrillion overnight when a rough estimate of all wealth combined on the planet is $500-600 Trillion?

FromThePits

Retail below wholecoiners holds under 1,4M BTC of the 20M mined. Doesn't make a difference if you or I choose to sell our meager fraction to them. We are already there. It's a different game now. Source : Top 100 Richest Bitcoin Addresses and Bitcoin distribution https://share.google/bveiy80utdq921dWP

Ok-Maintenance2034

So Ripple being at WEF and representing policy creation for CLARITY ACT and for IMF amongst others, while being in countless writeups and documents and articles about XRP AND XRPLEDGERS/Interledgers and having direct communication and business dealings with all of the major institutions world wide being at WEF and all those at WEF being at RIPPLE SWELL even speaking directly on stage about tokenization and cross border payments, Ripple getting a banking license and licenses they need to operate in different Countries to utilize the XRPL, record breaking XRP ETFS being launched by major financial institutions, Japan government officials and major institutions heavily banking on and adopting and sponsoring XRP, Reserves being structured and created around XRP and its future etc etc..., but yet you don't think there is a bright future for XRP? I'm not being rude, I'm just curious to see where that conclusion comes from? What will Ripple do? It was all a scam and a scheme for decades of hard work? Being sued and fighting for XRP and crypto as a whole... after all of that, they will just get rid of all the XRP and all of the XRP rails and XRPL rails and constructions made to work with current institutional infrastructure as well as the new ones which are yet to fully be put in place...they will just dump it and restructure all over again with institutions currently already utilizing it and the rails utilizing it and the XRPL,,, they will just throw it all away or??? lololol. It sounds like so many people talk without realizing how much work is put in place and how legit bat shit conspiracy theory it all sounds... At the same time though, It seems you are realizing it is heavily undervalued? XRP is not ready yet to be utilized at the scale it needs to be...hence clarity act and bringing forth the digital finance age! The revolution that is underway...is what is happening and being regulated and institutionalized and legalized now is it not? I mean from the information i gather its being all put in the works, I think the future is beyond bright for ANY of the top coins bringing utility to the new digital finance space which is in the midst of creation... Maybe i am wrong though,, but it seems people keep intertwining the current FIAT age with what's yet to come and this is where things get blurred in some aspects of crypto! Everyone should come together and be investing in all of the top 10 -20 assets which are pretty much guaranteed to be apart of the future and that alone could pump all of our bags...but yet people would rather argue about things they don't even research while being hypocrites about decentralization and all sorts of other jargon not realizing ETFS and banks are what pumped their BTC bags last bullrun and why BTC is where it is now lol... Anyway i am not hating on anyone or you, I am giving a realistic perspective as a holder/investor of multiple assets and researching each one i am involved in extensively... Research and knowledge is key...It creates less arguments as well as when facts are known, rumors and hearsay doesn't have a chance to be involved in the conversation.

Alexbobica

It depends on the risk that you are ready to take. BTC is a safe investment, and I stick mostly to it. I have some funds in long-term projects (SOL, TAO, AIOZ, and INJ), but mostly stick to BTC. In this circle, it turned out to be a good decision.

doyzer9

Usually an old pc/laptop that you never connect to the internet. There are many methods, for BTC using Electrum or Sparrow are most common for true cold storage.

Juan_Paz

My lender does BTC transactions now…

Blueberry_Dependent

Buy a Trezor, allocate BTC each month or every 2 weeks on days when the price is going down and forget about it

EstimateSpecial5442

This is actually really cool the Mona Lisa remix looks clean. Adding the BTC QR is a nice idea too, just hope nobody tries to mess with it.

XXsforEyes

This comes up all the time and from the responses of people way more technologically informed than I am… Spent coins are the ones at risk because QC could work the hash out backward. If they’ve never been spent, they’re secure. Satoshi never spent his coins. A hard fork can take care of the QC threat, and the BTC developers and minors are more tuned into when/how that would happen than other institutions. QC can more easily defend than attack. As others have said, BTC would be in a long line behind more valuable targets.

Bongressman

1/20th the entire supply of BTC? That would catastrophically crash the price. Just the "hint" of Satoshi's wallets waking up would heavily affect the price. That why people keep an eye on them all the time. That said, no one should be freezing anyone's wallets.

Top-Care-8946

That's why I decided to start with BTC. Most secure. Multi adressing transaction makes it different from other coins/networks. I have also activated ETH account but I am still observing and evaluating if it's worth to buy also ETH. Meanwhile all crypto markets are currently in red, I think that BTC has the best chances to overcome from that low point.

Mazoku-chan

So you are implying using BTC to move dirty money around is ok?

LakeEffekt

How has it been beat by QQQ? QQQ has roughly doubled. BTC has obviously been more volatile, but one could have purchased around $16-22k and sold well over $100K Double vs 6/7x… wouldn’t call that getting “beat”

EntitateDigitala

Most people feel the same because they don't know how to short crypto. And it all starts with internet ads that "teach" you to buy BTC, stocks, and others, but I haven't seen a single ad that teaches how to sell BTC, stocks, etc.

Mazoku-chan

>but as we know BTC has no frontiers Any digital transaction doesn't have them. The magic of the internet.

Seattleman1955

I haven't found any. None of them talk about any possible cons or negatives. If you do, you are just a "hater". It's probably 50/50 that Bitcoin, as a speculative investment will have a smaller market cap in 10 years than in 5 years. No one mentions that as a possibility. It's either BTC at $1 million or maybe it's $750k. No one realistically points out that for lump sum investing, BTC has been beat over the last 4 years by QQQ. With any kind of speculative investment people can just lose interest and move on to other things. Fiat can still be debased and not have BTC take over the world. There is no nuance. I find it more interesting to consider and price in the realist down sides as well as the up sides. Few others seem to however.

LsDally98

I second you. BTC maxis are insufferable. Their sole mission is to convince everybody else that financial opportunities are not to be taken if found outside of BTC. Smart money don’t give a damn, liquidity has no name.

riscten

Back in 2017 I spent 0.05 BTC on Forza Horizon 3 because it was slightly cheaper if I bought with Bitcoin. In retrospect, that's the most money I spent on a videogame to this day. I'm completely aware that this line is reasoning is completely flawed. Every dollar not invested in Bitcoin in the early days is technically an expensive mistake for all of us, and Bitcoin would've never grown in value if people never used it as a currency.

optionstrategy

BTC crashes to below 10k by the summer.

MotleyMoney

The "100% win rate" is nonsense. Jin lost $250 million in a single liquidation on January 31, 2026, pushing his lifetime P&L to negative $128 million. (Our Crypto Talk) He built ~$900M in leveraged longs on ETH/BTC/SOL that blew up during the "Warsh Shock." The actual story: A wallet associated with Jin is moving large amounts to exchanges. That part appears to be on-chain verifiable. But 0xNobler is packaging it with a false premise ("Trump insider," "100% win rate") to maximize engagement and panic.

TheresNoSecondBest

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cryptorevolution999

Bro, you are talking about 68k, not 1 million. And there is a really high chance that it will go down to 40k. It's absurd how people.think that wealth can be made by holding BTC. If you are smart and lucky you can open a business and make millions. Once you have done that, BTC will be a fun assets to hold.

MyEXTLiquidity

You can just say you’re new and scared of the volatility lol But cherry picking data is cherry picking. If you did this when BTC was at 125k your whole thesis would be wrong  I’m not some bitcoin maxi or big bitcoin believer I basically buy the world and bitcoin is a small %.  I will say, I feel bitcoin does need actively managed in a portfolio to offset the volatility. But it is predictable and it’s not hard to roughly double your money every 3-4 years. I sold most of my stack above 115k. I started buying again in small amounts when we broke 80 and really started buying again once we broke 70. I also have money set aside to lump sum once we break 60. I fully expect everything I buy now to double in value by 2029. So 160k+. Honestly I expect higher than that  But the kicker is in 2030-2031 I see bitcoin at like roughly 90-110k.  And in 2032-2033, will be higher than next AHT. The cycle is the cycle for a reason and enough people believe in the cycle that it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Go look at a bitcoin chart and it reads very predictable. We’re in Feb 2022. Or Feb 2018

HSuke

Yep. What CW is saying is irrational. Deflation is expected to decrease the nominal price of BTC and stocks.

SeaMicSte

You can pick any two datapoints and it will sometimes show that BTC is extremely outperforming S&P, sometimes will extremely underperform, sometimes will exactly match, etc. the only true conclusion here is that BTC is much more volatile.

GalaxyDefender1x

BTC is only for the people that got in on the ground floor... those who have it.. want everybody else to contribute and rise the price so they can win.. i dont think any regular joe will gain from BTC now.

bonsaitreehugger

BTC was a great investment if you got in before it went mainstream. Any time interval since 2021, it underperforms the market, unless you're a really good day trader.

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

Check the numbers, go to a DCA calculator, dont trust, verify it. Thats why im asking, I consider 5 years enough time for BTC to outperform... [https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/dollar-cost-averaging-calculator](https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/dollar-cost-averaging-calculator)

ExciteSeek4Ever

So what would it be if BTC was still over $100k…it would still be a worse or maybe comparable returns at best to indexes with real tangible companies. No thanks - I’ll stick with investing in Google over “blockchain.”

duboilburner

Except we know Bitcoin has 4 year cycles, and if you time those cycles, you get far better returns. How about instead of your arbitrary 5 years, we start at where Bitcoin had obviously bottomed along with the S&P drawing down at the end of 2022. Why don't we just start at the first trading day of 2023? It had become obvious by then BTC had bottomed out, and S&P was setting its first higher low from its October 2022 bottom. S&P is up about 74% Bitcoin 313%, with a peak above 600%. Your cherry picking proves nothing other than the S&P is more boring than Bitcoin over Bitcoin's well defined 4 year cycles.

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

Or 15 years, when BTC was $1, fair comparation right? lol

docherino

5 years is long enough lol. Don't know why many people can't admit that BTC has been underwhelming since 2021

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

I think the best way is comparing DCA to DCA, and its not looking good, 5 years monthly DCA is basically the same return for BTC and SP500.

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

No, lump sum, in monthly DCA the return is basically the same in both SP500 and BTC over the alst 5 years.

Suspicious-Skill1934

That's a bit disappointing I know, we all waited for better upside on BTC, like 200k, 150k never happened. Considering those new data for me i considering more trying to have better entry and exit , but also i am in full DCA mode in the SP500 and never look at it.

teheditor

You've chosen to ask right after a BTC crash

FromThePits

Only if you make it so Bitcoin is legendarily difficult to recoup once a few years have past. Just read all the stories of countless early bitcoiners letting go of hundreds of bitcoins one way or the other, never to regain that level of wealth again. I plan to airdrop some BTC on the next 4 generations of my family - because I have seen how bitcoin slips through the fingers of diamond hands.

skidmainmu

Also Luke Groman for gold and BTC, and Simon Dixon for BTC

RecklessStallion9999

I also found out about Natalie a few weeks ago through an interview with BTC Sessions, whom I followed for a bit while trying to set up some cold wallets and learn about Bitcoin tools in general. Natalie seemed smart, so I listened to a few of her podcast episodes. Both of them have disappointed me greatly, especially Sessions and his constant conspiracy-theory peddling and unsavoury guests. His clickbait videos have essentially devolved to ‘the GOVERNMENT is going TO STEAL YOUR BITCOIN’ tirades and it’s getting old fast. The crypto scene is still a, so it may be for the best to ignore all this noise from dubious sources.

TheresNoSecondBest

>I’ve heard it called “BTC farming” No, it's not. It's called BTC mining. >that sounds kinda fun. It is. And a great learning curve. Running a node too.

Lavayo

My strategy exactly. Except I never went below 70% BTC. It's 85% right now, while everything tanked...

YeaManJam

Do you have to register physical gold? I would think if it was registered and tracked them yes, just like if you hold your own stock. Would say the same for BTC, if they know you got it yes.

77sleeper

I don't think there is any profit small time. I do the fun lottery bag. I bought a few bit axes and a nano3s, then added an old Small form factor PC and started an unbrel PC with a BTC, BCH and DGB nodes. Lol I have mined about $4 lol, but its fun

QryptoQurios2020

How can BTC fix this when it drops its value in seconds. BTC is also broken. Please fix the BTC roller coaster rides. 🙄🤷‍♂️

GabeDef

Cathy Wood has made terrible calls the past five years. This is ominous. This could be a real bear for BTC

MikaelAbou

I don’t ever plan on selling my BTC. When its reaches 1M+ per coin I’ll maybe start thinking about borrowing against my stack but even then, like you, I can live comfortably on my income and save monthly.

watch-nerd

This makes no sense. If there is deflation, BTC is not the asset one wants to hold. In deflation, nominal assets get stronger.

AprilsMostAmazing

went and added more BTC today

Elev8errythang

So my method is simple and eliminates the extreme. I put up 100$ every week for BTC. Out of that 100$ I buy 50$ worth and put the other 50$ cash in savings waiting for any severe dips generally in the 20% or more range. So I DCA ,"dollar cost average" all the way up, and I DCA all the way down, and when ut hit 68000, I had about 800 put to the side to buy the dip and I will continue to buy a minimum of 50$ a week and wait for 58000 or 55000 to clean out the cash again

dweeegs

Somehow Saylor’s going to announce he bought 2,000 BTC at a price of $80k each last week

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VivaHollanda

It's not a tax on BTC.

PassLongjumping9699

BTC is a get rich "QUICK" scam, what are you doing?

_GOREHOUND_

What tips or suggestions? Your plan already sounds solid. Settle for a trustworthy broker to buy BTC and NEVER disclose your seed phrase. 99% of the job done.

crypto-indian

Hmm yeah you can do that, diversify with metal because whole crypto market moves where BTC moves. Metal was up when market and BTC was down So in case you need liquidity in urgency this strategy can help

PhysInstrumentalist

To play devils advocate, this is a cyclical investment. We all buy BTC because we believe this investment will grow in the long term. If this is true, peaks and valleys will have to rise throughout time. Before the 2025 spike, the last floor was no lower than ~$50k in 2024; to believe the next trough would be no lower than $60k is reasonable. If you believe we can go as low as <$50k, then that implies this investment has reached its absolute potential, and there is no reason to hold an investment that has no more long term growth.

Ge_Yo

DCA BTC is solid. Not every alt is a scam, but most underperform long term. If you want “extra” beyond holding, look into native BTC staking and self custody vault designs instead of chasing random tokens.

No_Giraffe_4647

Well BTC is like a digital vault that does not produce anything but offers a great bridge to swap into other assets and this is why it is now fully integrated on other crypto pairs including tons of shitcoins. People used BTC as main staorage and wanted to diversify on something else following the hype and not understanding what they actually bought. The ETH is maybe the only one that could catch up one day with mass adoption on DEFI as its ecosystem is huge and revenue stream is way above BTC. However BTC will remain the most popular coin ever despite having a closed protocol so no further development upgrades could be ever made.

andysime1

See last cycle I got stuck with some NFT coins and. Just think BTC surely is the safest maybe. Ofc lower gains, but at least there will be some gains

Ms_Freckles_Spots

Yes! I believe that a lot of the current crypto skepticism has some basis in the fact that shit coin players are confusing the BTC market, I understand BTC, I have never been able to see any other ‘coin’ as anything but a ‘penny stock’ game. I will hold BTC knowing it is the one which will prove itself due to mathematical basis and blockchain.

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anymonero

BTC doesn't set the benchmark for scaling. Compared to BCH, Monero scales worse, however as a user, you have to consider whether better scalability is a valid tradeoff for worse privacy. In the short term, there isn't any reason to prefer BCH for the use cases people use Monero for. In the long term we have to see whether Monero catches up on scalability first (though currently the level of scalability is perfectly sufficient for its adoption) or BCH improves privacy so it can replace Monero while keeping the same level of scalability once demand for privacy exceeds what Monero can provide.

Zdendon

In one year, BTC will be one year older.

FnAardvark

BTC from 50k to 100k is double, so whatever you buy at 50k would double. So 10k would = 20k.

CountGensler

The end goal is MORE, one way or another. Also they borrow against their BTC I am sure.

AntiqueDiscipline831

I bought 3 BTC in 2016

energetic_one

You are absolutely correct in everything. Those degen gamblers still exist and talk trades only. Those that see the true value buy and HODL for the time when they will need to rely on BTC and it's technology. Years ago a site called BTC-e existed and I purchased my Bitcoin there, then immediately shipped it out to Coinbase which was new. Buy/sell fees were much lower on BTC-e. I monitored the chat in BTC-e and could not believe the shortsighted mentality and stupid day trading talk going on. They felt the value of Bitcoin was only in the daily buys and sells. Of course nearly all lost money... and complained about it 😆 Then one day I showed up to buy more and was greeted with a big seal and sign... "FBI - this site has been seized and shutdown". Found out later BTC-e had been laundering money, maybe that's why their fees were so low!

K4RL4-92

This is exactly my thought. Putin has warned the US plans to use Bitcoin to debase the dollar and erase its debt. US government can't simply pull a new executive order 6102, as they did in 1933 with Gold, so they are using MSTR as a proxy to buy as many BTC as they can. That is why Saylor is always smug, he knows the US government will "eminent domain" all MSTR bitcoins with its infinite liquidity. Now, those who know history knows what will come after that, and those will certainly be holding their coins in self-custody.

Bakkus1987

Would be funny if BTC leaves all the bear market bro's in the dirt this year and records an ATH this year 😂.

Denna_Watsoll

If it’s just a small shared stack (like couple savings) you can do one normal wallet for both of you and a second private wallet each. My partner and I use a shared gem wallet for “house BTC” that we both have the seed for, and then we each have our own hardware wallets for personal savings. Not perfect multisig, but it matches real life better than over-engineering it

richardto4321

Why would you go in on another investment vehicle (strc) that heavily depends on the performance of the one you're already investing in? I'd just keep stacking more BTC or diversify into something else.

VivaHollanda

It's always been like this here in The Netherlands. We have to report the value on the 1st of january and pay tax over that value. So in your example buying 200k in BTC in year x and on the 1st of january of year x+1 it's worth 300k, we pay tax over that 300k. Even if it fals to 200k a day later. As i understand it, because it's a nightmare of a law, now we would pay tax over that 100k (aka the profit).

WSSquab

In the bear market BTC hits low levels that makes you feel that really this time is over, I don't see that yet in this one.

Gregory_Matthewsa

EU here, trying to DCA BTC from euros without getting wrecked on fees and weird EUR to USDto USDC conversions. Anyone cracked a decent setup?

montoya_c

The people calling for 30-50K are the same people that were calling for 200K+ BTC. Decent chance we’ve bottomed.

BonerDylan

I worked at a company that ordered shit like this from websites and all over the world. You are doing yourself a huge disservice consuming this stuff, especially when it’s labeled “not for human consumption”.  These companies can’t be trusted and are clearly obfuscating the rules and regulations   Even big companies like Hims and Hers aren’t much better.   I’d much rather have BTC stacked then risk my health over some unknown chemicals 

Captaincdj

I don't think it would be a shame at all. I don't want those people in BTC, they are the same ones who will sell in 2-3 years because of a calendar, perpetuating a repeat of the cycle and crashing price again. I hope they ALL get left behind.

seomajster

SP500 and others are close to ATH, risk of stock market entering bear mode is high. If this happens BTC will face more looses.

usedmattress85

Why is there a need to declare that the bear market is over and that prices can’t reach $50k? Past bears show that BTC will drop through the realized price and touch the balanced price before the bottom is in. It also show that it’s not over until the amount of holders in loss match the amount in profit. If the timing of past bears are a guideline we should see an initial final drop, (happened), sideways chop and relief rally’s and then a final capitulation in Q4, then we go up. No one knows the future but the evidence shows that the low is not in. And why does it matter that we time the bottom as well as we can? Because money.

Famous_Task_5259

I buy a little XRP and BTC every week along with XEQT and QQQI, not selling any for a very long time. DCA that shit, buying consistently is better than trying to figure when the most unpredictable investment will actually bottom. It may have already, nobody really knows.

WormHole_15

Monthly DCA 0/-20% from ath --> 500€ -20/-40% from ath --> 1000€ -40%/-60% from ath --> 2000€ -60%/-80% from ath --> 4000€ over -80% from ath --> 8000€ When new ATH happen, I slowly move balance from BTC to MSCI ETF until 75%/25% proportion is reached.

TheCreat1ve

This is a stupid post. You get upset when they print money, but you also get upset when they destroy money? Make up your mind. And yes, I'm a crypto enthusiast, I hold BTC. This post is just ridiculous.

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bimbobandit2016

MSTR has been trading like leveraged BTC without the liquidation risk

energetic_one

He's gone. At least under that username. We don't usually find big whales on the Bitcoin reddit boards! He's smart and I'm did he did exactly what you stated. And then shut up about his Bitcoin holdings and went quiet as all BTC holders should do.

BeeKnight86

I am absolutely sure. And if you are still lost, dont even try to buy BTC or invest in anything, or even applying for any loan (even a reasonable mortgage)... This is basic math.

Btcmot

The level of stupidity in some of this posts responses makes me finally realize that MOST people don’t get BTC. Go read up on what is happening, and realize your odds of timing correctly are as low as the underbelly of a frog. If you want to trade, go buy a penny stock or any one of the myriad of shipcoins. Bitcoin is unique and superior. Each purchase is a percent of the total, never to debase or dilute.

Icy_Annual_9954

So what are they saying about the BTC and BCH controversy? This would be interesting.

jae_visconte

No we not wining Bitcoin lose, 🪙⬇️😭😭😭 game over, why BTC do that? We can't winning why bitcoin why 🎮👎 ⬇️🪙😭😭 🎮➡️💥.

rmn_swiss

$BTC followed by $ETH, then $SOL imo. I'm not talking about a 5k mc shitter on Pump.

Flashy-Potatoe-Queen

Besides Bitcoin and Kaspa, everything else is a gamble to me, simply for being a crypto company or a cheap fork of BTC.

DanNotTheMann

BTC will rip again the moment central banks turn the liquidity taps back on, it always follows global liquidity. There’s no clear trigger for when that injection comes. Until then, we’re likely grinding sideways and scraping along a base. That’s why laddering limit buys makes sense for lump sums, let the market come to yoo, or just DCA if you prefer better sleep

Suitable-Profit231

What kind of moron are you, there are still many people that bought BTC at 6-8k and ETH at ~150$...

BruceAENZ

People will always try to predict the absolute bottom, and regret it either because they got nothing or they feel they ‘paid too much’. I suspect most are smarter and will mix it up and try to buy the bottom whilst still buying at higher levels just in case. Everyone’s situation is different so I’m certainly not going to bash someone for believing they can buy in at 50k or 40k. I think they are wrong, but I thought BTC was going to 100k before FTX imploded … Although I would say from my own experience, long term paying ‘too much’ is better than the regret of not getting anything.

Galen-Erso

Because this is both a cycle run (cycle N here) and poker game. The money you win (in crypto or any other asset game) is the same some others lose. At every cycle beginning, newcomers of cycle N lose a lot because they dont get yet how it works and how hard it is to hodl specially during a bear market. On the contrary early adopters of cycles N-1 and N-2 have endured pain (because they were also newcomers at that time). They know that BTC needs big pullbacks to enable it to go back to the stars. The lower it goes, the higher the spring effect is. At he end of cycle N, newcomers become early adopters of cycles N, N+1... Now they know the pain. So now the question is, what is the bottom. The answer is, we can have an estimate but in fact nobody knows. The real truth is, there is no magic money. If BTC encounters a huge bull market, it is only because lot of people have lost money. So it is of interest to the early adopters majority that the bear market longs as long as newcomers have desperatly sold enough to get a new refined fresh buy market. In this perspective, you should expect BTC price to pump a bit, then dump a lot for months and months in order to maximize psychological influence and despair of newcomers. When the despair is everywhere, you will know because nobody will speak about BTC anymore. And btw, all the bros who voted for Trump because they thought he would have a positive influence on this, were fooled like never. BTC is worldwide, not US specific. It is probably worth for BTC to have a steady, collaborative global market than a US focused insanity. I'm truly sorry for your loss.

jspartanlee

Because 1 BTC is just too expensive. With MSTR you can buy parts of a Bitcoin!