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bioscifiuniverse

Also, I don’t think you truly know what an analogy is. Slot machines and BTC are both literally involved in making money. No analogy involved.

MagnificentMarvin

I'm going to 2010, buying 20 BTC, shares of NVIDIA, google, and loading up on a SP500 ETF, making sure to sell everything mid december 2024, then going all in on April 10 2025, and then selling half the BTC on October 5 2025. And around then I'm pulling up the drawbridge from the moat so none of the riff raff can get too close to my castle.

poulan9

Buy high, sell low - the best advice ever. FYI EVERY SINGLE INVESTMENT is in nature speculative...even BTC and FAANG stocks. When you buy you are therefore speculating that you believe that the price will appreciate without knowing it 100% (as nobody can know it) - that is literally the definition of speculation.

IndustrialPuppetTwo

Many of us, if not the majority, have been through this to some extent, some a lot worse, and I mean A LOT worse, than you. Then we come to our senses and realize that there is really only one cryptocurrency and that's Bitcoin. IMO do what most of us have done, sell your alts at a loss and put it all into BTC. In ten years you may be back to normal again and even ahead. It could be only 5 years.

sh0werh3ad

Euphoria happened when BTC crossed $100k, just happened earlier than everyone expected

VariatCA

Comparing the percentage drop since last night to BTC-prices, it would be similar to Bitcoin reaching $126,000 and then dropping to $107,000 barely 12 hours later. That's also with Silver being over 2x the market cap of Bitcoin.

Rock_Strongo

What market are you talking about? You'd have to pick a very specific "almost half decade" for it to be underperforming the S&P. Year-by-Year: 2022: BTC -65% / SPY -18% 2023: BTC +155% / SPY +26% 2024: BTC +123% / SPY +25% 2025 YTD: BTC ~flat / SPY +18% Cumulative 4-Year Return: Bitcoin: ~$47k → ~$87-93k = ~85-100% S&P 500: ~3,850 → ~6,000 = ~55-60%

tallboybrews

In 2010, BTC ended the year at 30 cents. Pretty sure you'd have been able to scrape together $30 knowing that it'll be worth $10mil in 15 years.

Odd-Fun-1482

I forgot i did A LOT of swing trading in between 2018 and 2019, increasing my networth over time. Not just a simple buy BTC low sell it high. Point still stands though. Made huge profit, lost it all diamond handing alts, sold and never looked back

Survivaleast

Reset your holdings. BTC and ETH. Everything else is just noise. Consolidate your holdings and go live your life.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

What I would do. And actually did like 2 years ago or so was sell all my alts and just buy Bitcoin. By the time even if an alt does well you have 3 or 4 others that are doing so bad it is almost impossible to win. I had tons of alts do well ETH did a 3x, ADA a 3x , CONE did like an 8x, MOONS did like a 3x I think, a few others I can't remember. But with ICP, ATOM and DOT destroying a lot of my other gains. I would've been WAY better just keeping it simple and buying BTC

Spoofik

Once again, I am convinced that BTC + ETH is all we need. In the worst case scenario, even if the price falls, it will only be temporary, and sooner or later we will be able to get money back and make a profit, which cannot be guaranteed with shitcoins.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

We are all at a loss with altcoins because most of us expected an altcoin season in 2025. After this cycle, I think I might become a Bitcoin maxi. I DCA’d for four years into four top-50 altcoins and achieved almost 40% gains in November 2024 and January 2025. I didn’t sell because I was expecting an altcoin season in Q4 2025, similar to what we saw in Q4 2017 and Q4 2021. I didn’t anticipate how much the Trump tariffs and broader macroeconomic conditions would impact retail investors, pushing many of them out of the market and making an altcoin season unrealistic. My honest advice is to sell part of your losing positions and buy BTC and ETH when prices drop. I would suggest not selling Polkadot right now; instead, wait until March 2026. DOT is expected to cap its supply, and it will launch the Join-Accumulate Machine (JAM) project, which is designed to succeed the relay chain. Combined with its current ETF, this should generate some profits.

VariatCA

First time since December 17th that the U.S. market opened with a stretch of green candles for BTC, even while stocks opened at -0.4% to start the morning. A wave of shorts ran in afterwards to drag it back down, of course, but that was the first time we've seen morning price action like that since the last day of positive ETF inflows. For reference, this is what the market looked like on the 17th, on a day where ETF's recorded +$457M of inflows: https://imgur.com/a/QzL26yr There's a great chance we're going to find out tonight that ETF's broke their negative streak and actually bought a bunch this morning.

SoupThatEatsLikeMeal

I would have to take the 10 BTC — I can’t live the last 15 years again….its been too hard.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

We are all at a loss with altcoins because most of us expected an altcoin season in 2025. After this cycle, I think I might become a Bitcoin maxi. I DCA’d for four years into four top-50 altcoins and achieved almost 40% gains in November 2024 and January 2025. I didn’t sell because I was expecting an altcoin season in Q4 2025, similar to what we saw in Q4 2017 and Q4 2021. I didn’t anticipate how much the Trump tariffs and broader macroeconomic conditions would impact retail investors, pushing many of them out of the market and making an altcoin season unrealistic. My honest advice is to sell part of your losing positions and buy BTC and ETH when prices drop. I would suggest not selling Polkadot right now; instead, wait until March 2026. DOT is expected to cap its supply, and it will launch the Join-Accumulate Machine (JAM) project, which is designed to succeed the relay chain. Combined with its current ETF, this should generate some profits.

biophysicsguy

A $20 trillion market cap would mean 1 BTC = $1 million. The original question was whether 0.01 BTC could reach $1 million.

bioscifiuniverse

No one is arguing with how HTTP or algorithms work. The argument here is how BTC works and what is behind “mining.” I guess you don’t understand how currency works.

No-Anteater509

Every day when the stock market opens the same damn thing happens to BTC. Seems funny to me 

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Michael Saylor's company, MicroStrategy, concluded 2025 with the purchase of an additional 1,229 BTC at an average price of $88,568 per bitcoin, bringing its total holdings to 672,497 BTC acquired for approximately $50.44 billion. This marks a significant increase from the 252,220 BTC it held before the 2024 US elections. Despite the aggressive accumulation, MicroStrategy's stock price has declined by 47% year-to-date, reflecting broader market corrections in the crypto sector. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

iLikeTurtuls

2010 I was still in school. I could focus more and actually do something. That I could just invest tons of money into BTC and be fine.

bollocksgrenade

Ah yes, if BTC could reach that magic $100k mark, for the eleventh time the flood gates will open. What utter nonsense. At some point after we reach $250k, I'm sure we will hit the $200k mark 11 times as well, no magic, no breaking point.

Character-Education3

You go back to 2010 and start a major mining operation only for Shiba coins to take off instead. You have all this BTC no one wants and are deeply in debt to some eastern European businessmen. You have a defenstration accident.

RecklessStallion9999

Yeah, you can use Strike for on-ramping, but it’s BTC-only, hence why I still have Coinbase for other crypto. I don’t know for other currencies other than Euro though, you’ll need to do some research on that one. I transfer euros to Strike from Revolut, no issues and the money arrives in a couple of seconds. They also offer an option for free withdrawals to cold wallets - it can take up to 24 hours (12-15 hours in my experience), but the amount arrives safely and they cover all transfer fees which is pretty awesome. I’ve got a referral code for that if you want, I think it offers no fees for the first 500 euros of Bitcoin you get from them (the next 500 euros for me). My Bitvavo referral is different, maybe because I’m a new customer - 25 euros of BTC for you, 25 for me. If you search here on Reddit for something like ‘Bitvavo referral 50 BTC’ and sort by newest I’m sure you’ll find a referral code that offer the 50 euros BTC with a 20 euro buy. The catch is that the free BTC has to stay in the Bitvavo account for 180 days, but I’ve set up a reminder for that and will transfer out when the time comes. Feel free to share your Binance referral if it’s a good one. I may go and open an account there too for the fun of it.

Longjumping-Bonus723

Vechain Stellar and Hedera can make you money just hold. If BTC dominance drops they will all rise again. Don't panic sell.

Unknown-714

Honestly probably go back to 2010. Not just making some wrongs righted and hurdles avoided, but i had gotten a small inheritance from my grandpa in 2009, had i spend 1k of that on BTC would be looking at generational wealth rn instead of potentially in 2035+. But, thats the best part of hindsight, you can see this

Spencer_Bob_Sue

100% go back to 2010, I mean you could make get way more BTC with even like $10 than what comes from the red pill

Lopsided_Equipment19

Guys, don't forget about butterfly effect... 10 BTC right now would not change the past. Going back 15 years in time, would almost definetly change things

stackered

Nah, there are plenty of whales with many BTC

DegreeStunning7644

Да одни нули только  можно  купить от BTC сейчас , слишком дорогой btc, а покупать щиткоин ETH смысла нет , eth -никогда не подняться до стоимости btc у него премайнинг монет только на 72 миллиона. 

JakRenden2

$100M is peanuts when it comes to the total market cap of BTC

krakenexchange

Lmao, this is great. You should 100% post your story as a video or photo+caption on X, Instagram, or TikTok too. Use #GiftFlip and tag @ krakenfx to multiply your chances at the BTC prizes. Love this one!

Gimangi_Podestry

Takes blue pills, buys insane amounts of BTC and completely skewed the market and hinders any future growth.

Gimangi_Podestry

With red it doesn’t have to be a fairytale. Getting 10 BTC right now can easily be done just need a funder. With Blue you need a genie 🧞‍♂️😂😂😂

xaviemb

The fact that fiat can be printed indefinitely, means the value (in USD) will certainly go way higher in the future... adoption will only accelerate that even higher. fiat has depreciated 99% in the last 100 years... so it's safe to assume that if Bitcoin just goes sideways for the next 100 years, it'll reach $10m... without doing anything. Odds are it continues to grow in adoptions and will be significantly higher. So it's not unreasonable to assume it'll reach significantly higher as adoption continues to grow. Since BTC is currently only about 0.2% of global wealth and growing.

Gtathrowawayacc

I’m pretty sure me buying BTC will disrupt the timeline. Ain’t no room for me to be rich I’m a broke boy 4L

MariachiArchery

Speculating for sure, I hold VET and POL. I thought they had potential for sure. I took a risk. *However*, against my BTC and ETH bags, they were less than 1% of my crypto portfolio. Against my IRL portfolio, *way* less. Literal moonshots. Unfortunately for OP, this looks to be everything. $28,000 into IOTA is wild with an $88k net worth. What I've learned from this sub over the years (since like 2017), is that unless we are talking about ETH or BTC, we are talking about literal penny stocks. Remember Waltonchain? Shit, this sub shilled fucking Bitconnect and Luna/Terra Labs. Yeah, when I see this sub get all bricked up about a project, it's a pretty good bet the only thing it's got going is hype.

Low_Arm9230

Those are all shit coins with no real utility. Currently I only see BTC, ETH and XRP as having any meaningful value. I think the become a millionaire dream that crypto introduced in early days has kind of pushed aside the fact that many people lose millions in crypto everyday because they want to get rich. Unfortunately I do not see your portfolio ever making a break even from that point, but I might be wrong.Since you’ve already invested, if you can afford wait for the next bull cycle you might be able to shed some loss, break even or even make some profit. But 68% is a large hole to dig out from.

macetheface

Very odd question. 10x87k is not even 1M. This isn't enough to comfortably retire in almost every 1st world country. If we're talking strictly monetary choice, better would be 1000 BTC+ It's not just about Bitcoin too. Would love to go back and be able to not make the stupid decisions I did that wasted many many years. Would be able to afford my father's cancer treatments instead of just watching him fight unsuccessfully with insurance. If I knew what I knew today back in 2010, I would have bought 100,000 BTC at 10 cents which would be worth over 8.7B today.

xaviemb

When I looked into buying BTC for my teenager, U.S. laws aren’t very clear. The safest approach I found (after asking around) was to buy it myself under my own KYC, hold it, and then hand over the cold-storage keys when she turns 18 (and recommend she moves it to a new wallet/device so access is clean). Bitcoin *can* be acquired without being known, but if your goal is long-term value... and possibly converting back to any form of fiat later... it’s worth understanding that coins with unclear provenance can create headaches down the line if fiat is still part of the system. Taxes, and laws changing... etc Long way of saying: if you have a trusted adult, that’s probably the simplest and safest route. And it should go without saying... but don’t “trust” random people on the internet. I know a lot of parents are not into BTC, and this might be difficult, but if you study and really understand it... I'd recommend present it as a hobby you are exploring to better understand finances in general. Talk about it being a path to diversification... see if you can get a parent to hear you out, and help. Best of luck!

based_pinata

These were the people calling bitcoin old tech and the mostly BTC/ETH holders dinosaurs.

SirLostit

That’s my plan. I sold everything towards the end of Nov and just left it in USDT. Hopefully be able to buy some BTC next year, but I think with so many big players now, the previous cycles will be irrelevant. Alts are dead.

Lunardo98

One of the most painful things to realise in Crypto is how much of it is pure gambling, it doesn‘t matter how good a project looks and how much real world implementation it has. I bought into VeChain and Fantom (FTM) back in 2021, put in around 4-5k that I saved with my apprenticeship money. Had a profit of 1k at some point, until it all went to shit with the Ukraine war. BTC and ETH recovered, Vechain and Fantom however? Even with Fantom converting to Sonic, my holdings are now worth 200 bucks. Had I put that money into ETF‘s or just plain old Bitcoin, I would still be looking at a green wallet value. A super painful lesson that goes to show that you can‘t just print money except if you‘re evil or one of the fewer people with stupid luck. Stick to the basics and work on improving your income/skills.

Radiant_Setting9172

I don’t see anything being changed, except for a much lover top than expected (which can be attributed to the fact that ALL THIS CYCLE FED’s monetary policy was QT, instead of QE like in ALL PRIOR CYCLES! Still, $BTC managed to put a new ATH, unlike most of the altcoins- retail was mostly absent hence no liquidity for much higher highs

sparcusa50

Why no BTC, ETH, or Solana? I would hold as the anticipated passage of the market structure bill in the US should provide a lift for all tokens

GaRGa77

diamond hands BTC

Beautiful-Current-59

I will never understand this about the Bitcoin community, the original purpose of Bitcoin was for us to escape the grasp of the government, hedge funds, and Wall Street. Now as a community we praise them getting involved, So what do we want? The wealth just be concentrated at the top, The same structures still in power and have the same problems, that we're facing today? The only difference is instead of Fiat currency, It's BTC. And you think having a Bitcoin or two is going to make a difference, when the inevitable outcome of governments and hedge funds getting involved is them owning the vast majority of BTC Because there's no way in the future, when governments/Wall Street becomes involved with BTC, They won't pass legislature to seize Your wallet on behalf of the state. There's no way that hedge funds will lock arms and prevent you from selling. No they're going to totally work by the rules of decentralization. They're just going to relinquish control out of respect 🤣😂🤣

Lunardo98

BTC reached 64k in 2021, not 100

vdzz000

Not a single BTC investment was spotted. You gamble on a bunch of shit coin and lost.

nllfld

Not one bad investment decision. Eight bad speculation decisions. Option A, then BTC / ETH. Then diamond hand and leave crypto when you're at 88k again.

VariatCA

The increased margin requirements reducing leverage for speculators reads much more like COMEX attempting to regain a little stability. Precious Metals, or any commodity that can entail a physical delivery at the other end of the contract, shouldn't be swinging around like a shitcoin from speculators one way or another. It definitely highlights the price-manipulation in both directions though. Long-positions on super thin margin attempting to balloon the prices, and COMEX shutting it down and forcing speculators out of the playing field. Last thing they probably want to see happen is a physical commodity being swung around in price BTC-style by a bunch of market degens. 1980 was a prime example of what that kind of manipulation can do to the price if left unchecked.

Odd-Fun-1482

I bought 1 BTC @ $10,000, sold at $100,000 - so that's a 10x. I did the 'smart' thing by diversifying it into... alt coins. CRO, KCS, XYO, LINK, This was in 2021. Basically sold my BTC at its ATH just to buy alts at their ATH, then they all -80%'d. Should have held, since some alts recovered in 2024 at least half of what they lost, but I sold to free myself of the torment of checking the charts and constant notifications of my phone. I still think about it. What I could have done with that $90,000 gain. S&P, TSFA-GIC, just hold stablecoin and wait for re-entry. To make matters worse I paid taxes on that 90k gain, but just gambled the profit all away. Fuck alts. I don't care how quickly you can turn a profit compared to BTC or trad stocks. I don't care what the charts look like. It's all a gamble,

MariachiArchery

What exactly is option C here? Look, you *could* diamond hand this shit, but the reality is, all of these projects will probably never reach your entry point again. Will they pump? Maybe, but then you are in a situation sweating bullets trying to time the market. What is more likely, is they'll continue to trend downward. If I were you, I'd cut my losses, because I do think it is going to get worse for these positions, not better. You could wait three years to reach your entry point, but in that scenario, you've also blown the opportunity to get into something that will actually generate return. You lose twice waiting on this shit. Sell it all, and move it into BTC and ETH. These two assets will out preform your current position indefinitely. If you are feeling risk averse, convert to cash, and move this into a simple SP500 fund. Maybe consider a buffered position. At the end of the day, I don't think you'll benefit from holding this shit. Cut your losses.

MinuteStreet172

The all will probably experience a small pump along with BTC and others. Maybe you'll be able to cash out at a 50% loss... But Yeah, maybe sell and buy a decent coin that doesn't inflate to hell and is actually functioning as intended. ETH, XMR, BCH have had decent performance and are serious projects.

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

Well BTC went down $4k after I said it so I guess there was some value in it.

BlueM92

Option B and make your portfolio BTC and ETH only

RecklessStallion9999

I am in Europe. For the past six months I’ve been using Strike almost exclusively for BTC (hourly DCA without a fee, pretty small fee for one-off purchases and a good spread), but once in a while I may get some from Coinbase as I’ve had an account there since ‘21. Got some from Bitvavo earlier today when I opened an account when they gave 50€ for free with a 20€ buy using a referral code.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

Man you chose the shittiest of shitcoins I’m sorry. This is what happens when you invest in alt Layer1’s. Buy BTC, ETH, and hold it. That’s your best bet if the goal is long term.

MariachiArchery

VeChain was supposed to revolutionize the supply chain, logistics, and provide tracible provenance. Stellar was supposed to replace SWIFT payments. HBAR and 0x were supposed to be *the* DeFi applications for the next cycle. Polkadot was supposed to let all the different bock chains transact with each other for cheap, was also supposed to be an ETH killer. And Polygon was once the best L2 solution for ETH on the market. All of these projects were real, and had hype. I understand why OP is in the situation he's in. This very sub shilled the *fuck* out of all these projects at one point. If you went back in time and took a snapshot of this sub at any given point, you'd think any one of these projects would have flipped BTC by now. I get it. Unfortunately, this is a lesson OP get's to learn the hard way. I think a lot of us here have learned this lesson the hard way.

Reasonable-Opening77

The issue with your portfolio is that many (or all) of these tokens likely won’t reach new ATHs in the next bull run, since market sentiment seems to be consolidating around a small handful of names. It absolutely sucks (and is antithetical to the original intention of crypto), but look at what Wall Street is saying, not a bunch of random YouTubers whose main source of revenue is ads. I'm speaking from experience...I lost a TON after the bubble burst last time, but then I consolidated into a couple names, and did quite well this time. MATIC / Polygon / POL (lol), for example, was a total dud, and I don’t think it ever reached its ATH this cycle. If your portfolio was BTC, ETH, SOL, and maybe BNB, I’d recommend holding. Answer is A.

Radiant_Setting9172

I agree with the first part of your comment. Buuuut QE starting, I doubt will send BTC to new highs in 2026. More likely a muted bear market (-50-60% instead of -80%). And a new ATH in 2027 with a much higher high by 2029, say 500k.

slash_networkboy

Going back... but not for the BTC per se... I filed for divorce after my wife had an affair in 2012. The divorce took 9 years and destroyed my life. I've since rebuilt, but having the ability to do-over there are sooooooo many things I would have changed.

chestofpoop

No, you get the knowledge to buy BTC and be broke for a while

whiteknives

You misunderstand. Wake me up when BTC is at $200k.

xaviemb

This is very true. I’ve never actually sold Bitcoin on an exchange. I’ve spent BTC, and I’d consider using it as collateral for a loan (take fiat, grow fiat, pay it back in fiat, keep the BTC). I know this board is full of speculators trying to turn Bitcoin into more fiat, but I’m seeing more people shift into a different mindset: the real power move is accumulating *more Bitcoin*, not more dollars. Once people cross that mental hurdle, they rarely go backwards. And every day, more people seem to be getting there.

PirateSKB

Don't worry buddy, we still got 3 days. We might get a god candle in 3 days that takes us all the way to $1 million BTC

Blyadhole

The U.S. dollar is pegged to gold at 87500 dollars per BTC. /s

No_Pace_9170

Obviously go back to 2010 and buy way more than 10 BTC

xaviemb

Little Logic Grounded Hopium to end 2025: For those vigilant on cycles: the bigger point to me is this... if BTC finishes 2025 below $94k, that makes 2025 a red year. **Based on \~17 years of data, a red year has** ***always*** **been followed by green years.** Bitcoin has never had two red years within a three-year span, so once you get the red year, the next few have historically been green. Also worth noting: 17 years of year-by-year data is statistically more meaningful than the 4-year cycle everyone focuses on… especially when we’ve only seen \~4 of those, but we've seen 17 years of never having back-to-back red years. Unless this time is different.

ElKaWeh

10 BTC, thanks. 2010 I was still in school, I’m not doing that shit again.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Strategy Inc. has purchased 1,229 BTC for $108.8 million at an average price of $88,568 per coin, funded through proceeds from selling shares of its stock. Despite Bitcoin's recent price dip, Strategy's total holdings now stand at 672,497 BTC, acquired for approximately $50.44 billion at an average price of $74,997 per coin. The company continues to accumulate Bitcoin, reflecting institutional interest even as the cryptocurrency trades below its all-time high. Strategy's Bitcoin holdings are valued at $58.65 billion. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Hungry-Let-3012

He needs suckers to buy BTC for his exit liquidity.

jzen93

So you don't want BTC, USDC or any fiat. Only option looks liks EURC in my opinion

BakingBreadBB2

I stopped listening to what anyone has to say about price action a few years ago. Never been so peaceful with my BTC stack

FromThePits

It really depends on how much of an adoption BTC has gotten by then. Has it taken over everything as the worlds leading digital reserve currency.. or has something else? If the former happens, then we're probably talking many billions of dollars for the last few coins in circulation. Only time will tell

Savings-Degree-8749

When that happens, what do you think the price of BTC will be? Everything has to be profitable.

Any-Neat5158

Lots to assume though. Would life unfold just the same way it has, other than your own personal financial "choices"? Sure I could go back to 2010 and pile up a few thousand BTC. Becoming one of the richest people in the world isn't without consequence though. Many that the average person never even considers. If life DID unfold otherwise the same, would you want to relive it? If life may NOT unfold otherwise the same, would you want to risk it?

occamsrazorben

That's interesting.. the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) and Mini Bitcoin Trust (BTC) are also on the list, just FYI.

Zazzy3030

10 BTC now. No amount of money could make me want to relive the same life since 2010. I’m happy where I am today and would not wish to go through all the past again.

Romanizer

Also a thought I think is very interesting: Satoshi mined the first block with 50 BTC in 10 minutes. It will take the whole world-wide mining network a whole 57 years (from 2083-2140) to mine the last 50 BTC.

unclefire

I'd go back to 2010 with the knowledge of have now (especially about BTC). I had planned on buying like $1000 of bitcoin back then and decided not to thinking it was just a fad or something that wouldn't go anywhere. Man that was dumb. Even if I blew $1000, it wouldn't have mattered.

Zigxy

Not just that, The purchases announced on Dec 8th ($963M) and Dec 15th ($980M) were far larger than this purchase ($109M). So you’re right. There is nothing “bold” going on. In fact this was a rather tame announcement. BTC is currently at $87k each and Strategy’s average cost is at $75k. Note that Strategy didn’t include underwriting fees, dividend payments, agent fees, or interest charges for their different kinds of capital raises. If BTC doesn’t start to consistently go up, Strategy will soon become a massive furnace of shareholder funds.

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ThePugz

Tough call. Messing with the past is a very dangerous game, So I’ll just take the 10BTC.

GhostEntropy

I'm starting to think 1 million dollars per BTC was not a realistic target for this year.

Bongressman

Yeah, people are focused on the monetary gain only... but holy shit, time is everything. Health, new habits solidified, and adjustment in education, career, relationships. Fuck BTC or the markets, at 48 I'd take the blue pill just for 16 extra do over years.

LostMyWasps

I mean, if i travelled to that year I wouldnt have been able to purchase anyway until pandemic years. And being mexican, buying 10 or even one whole BTC at that time would have been impossible. But I wanna go back to my happy years v;

Patient-Ordinary-359

I think you’re talking past the argument rather than engaging it. No one is claiming that only food, shelter, or clothing have value, or that “survival goods” are the sole benchmark. The point is about causal power when exchange and supporting systems are removed. Rarity alone doesn’t create value in economic theory; it’s necessary but not sufficient. Value depends on demand and usefulness within a system, and the article’s claim is that Bitcoin’s usefulness is entirely system-dependent in a way many other scarce things aren’t. You also don’t address the key distinction being tested: physical persistence versus network dependence. Emeralds or land continue to exist as controllable physical resources even if markets fail; Bitcoin does not exist at all without electricity, consensus, and a live network. That’s not an insult to Bitcoin, it’s a structural difference, especially relevant because BTC is often marketed as system-independent “sound money.” Dismissing this as childish avoids that distinction rather than rebutting it.

TheDeHymenizer

only ones not taking it are the ones with kids as their kids likely won't exist in their 2nd run through with 10,000 BTC

FromThePits

I have made a plan to beat father time. 1/3 of my BTC is allocated to the next 4 generations through interlocking wallets in a Greek Chain. I am not going to become wealthy from bitcoin anyway(too late for that) , and I do very well as it is For me BTC represents a once in a lifetime opportunity to improve the lives of my descendants. Thats better than a new jetski, in my humble opinion.

Thebecstao

10 BTC

DepartmentTall4891

Why do u need family if u have BTC? Just buy another family for 1/2 price, duh

neoo99

OTC is the only way? Is it difficult to buy that huge amount of USDT? Into BTC? From say coinbase?

PirateSKB

I mean, if BTC hits $10m in my lifetime with current diminishing returns each cycle I will literally come over to your house and give you so much money and probably some diamonds, and even a cookie

PirateSKB

I mean, there's projects that do what BTC does, but better tbf. The main thing BTC has going for it is first mover advantage and lots of adoption, but compared to many current projects, the tech is fairly outdated and the throughput is horribad without a L2 like LN Also the overall community can't agree on anything, which is how we ended up with BCH in the first place lol

Br0lynator

I would take the 10 BTC I met my now wife in 2013 and we got together a year later - still no clue how I managed to land someone so way out of my league and I am very certain I couldn’t replicate that. Would go back to 2015 anytime though.

FromThePits

Very true Neofire2020 Your family will not lose your bitcoin They will sell your bitcoin to others and they will never recover back to what once was. Eventually all BTC will sit in treasuries and balancesheets - not in your familys wallets.

vertigo42

Exactly it's literally the primary way banks fund short term liquidity needs to meet fractional reserve reqs. It's more commonly used than the much more publicly famous fed funds overnight. They are both similar and this is a nothing burger it's why BTC dropped back down almost immediately in the early hours.

PirateSKB

> Unfortunately the ONLY value that BTC has is its scarcity I mean, I do agree with this, BTC is garbage and has first mover advantage. If the mempool gets full, it takes forever to do transactions, and even when the mempool isn't super full, transactions can take like 1 hour to just get 6 confirmations. Alot of people would say just to use Lightning Network or a L2, but honestly i'd rather just use literally almost any of the other top 100 projects to transfer funds with low fees and quickly I think alot of people honestly here just hodl and don't use Bitcoin to transfer funds or do much with it, especially on the main chain lol I say this lovingly as someone who still holds BTC

Broad_Watercress4367

10 years ago 10 BTC would cost u 4300 USD. so yeah...