BTC

Rare_Rich6713

I keep the vast majority of my BTC in cold storage and don’t touch it. That’s the core position. If I ever use BTC in any protocol, it’s on Babylon and the likes since it model preserves self-custody and avoids rehypothecation. Also I have a smaller bag I'm trading for side profit.

Btcmot

As you are writing this…. I am NOT understimating. I am buying my small amount each week. BTC only‼️

Rare_Rich6713

Pretty much. For most BTC holders, doing nothing is the feature, not a bug. Self custody and patience already beat most strategies. I’m not arguing people should do more with BTC, just that if anything does gain traction, it’ll have to respect that mindset instead of trying to turn Bitcoin into a yield machine.

Best-Bodybuilder9015

BTC is decoupled from digital gold safe haven mumbo jumbo talk. It’s back to where it should be.. high risk spec and correlated with speculative equities and not gold

Rare_Rich6713

I mostly agree with you. For many people, buy and hold in cold storage is already the optimal strategy and probably always will be. I don’t think BTC needs DeFi. The question is whether there’s room for very conservative use cases for a small slice of holders who want utility without giving up custody. Some newer designs like Babylon are at least trying to explore that direction by keeping BTC under user control instead of wrapping it into another chain. But the default for most people should still be, hold your keys and avoid chasing yield.

CayoPerican

The average person is very stupid, and BTC is quite a hard thing to be explained for anyone who’s not very tech savvy.

elidevious

Dude, the stock market is literally at an all time high. So I don’t know what you’re going on about. The democrats were literally actively trying to kill crypto. Crypto is where the vast majority of my wealth has been made. So yeah, Trump has reversed what the dems were doing and is laying a foundation for crypto mass adoption. While the dems are still fighting. I’ve lived abroad for the past 15 years because I specifically don’t want to deal with all America’s problems. Additionally, I don’t vote because it doesn’t feel fair to participate in something that I’ve removed my self from. That said, it still affects me because of bitcoin and taxes. And you simply will not be able to convince me that Trump was bad for crypto because he rugged meme coin gamblers. I pulled off a 5x this cycle buying low and selling BTC hight. I see absolutely no problem. Besides, I think your world view is way too myopic and US-centric. China is in a deflationary housing spiral. People are rushing into metals to preserve their wealth. The Japan Carey trade is unwinding, further pushing the DXY dollar down. Frances’ debt is crippling Europe. Government around the world totally over leverage. I think we can agree Bitcoin is the solution to a lot of these problems. And I’m grateful, as an American, that Trump is establishing laws supporting crypto, stable coins, and Bitcoin. As for all the shit with ICE murdering people. My wife is a foreigner, and my son. The international conflicts, tariffs, and generally fuckery. Trump is a borderline totalitarian dictator and global bully. That makes me ashamed to be an American and super glad I don’t live there. I daily show gratitude to the country I reside in for the peace and prosperity it gives me and my family. I honestly wish you the best over there.

Positive-Double3927

Buy the BTC!

HotSaucinWingTossin

Yeah the advantage of being tax free and able to use that to take profit and buy lows is huge. People hate on it not being legit BTC but right now it's increasing my capital faster.

NivTheGever

Now it's 75% usdc and 25% BTC

biophysicsguy

If you’re successful at timing the market then more power to you. It sounds like we both want as much BTC as we can get. I know I suck at timing the market so I’ll just continue to DCA.

Ok_Budget9461

A wallet itself has no identity. When you create a cold wallet (or hot wallet), no name, phone number, or creator info is written to the blockchain. On-chain, there is only: a public key addresses derived from a seed and transactions between addresses That’s it. Wallet apps or hardware devices (Ledger, Trezor, Metamask, etc.) do not send your personal identity to the blockchain. Identity linkage happens off-chain, mainly when: you buy crypto through a KYC exchange you withdraw from an exchange to your wallet you reuse addresses you interact with services that collect metadata Simply put: Your wallet doesn’t know who you are Exchanges do The blockchain only sees addresses and movements A cold wallet can be fully non-custodial and not directly tied to your identity as long as the fund flow is also clean. If you buy BTC via KYC and send it to your wallet, the wallet remains “anonymous”, but the transaction history is not. There is no perfect anonymity only levels of operational privacy.

Ok_Budget9461

Because the market is balanced, not confused. Yes, there’s buying, but there’s also sell-side supply absorbing every push higher. Volume alone doesn’t move price; what matters is who is trading, in which direction, and at what levels. Right now BTC and ETH are ranging because: larger players are accumulating without chasing price every rally runs into existing supply there’s no clear catalyst to break the equilibrium yet This isn’t necessarily bearish. In fact, many strong trends start after long sideways phases. Markets don’t move on news alone, they move when one side finally runs out of patience. Price isn’t “stuck”. It’s absorbing.

Any_Context1

Boring? I bought BTC when it was in the $19-$21K range. This is not boring at all.

Any-Neat5158

It's me throwing my hat in the ring. I'm "in it". When I got in, I just wanted to be a part of the action. I believed in the possibility that this asset could very well create an extraordinary boost to my overall net work if not generational wealth. It was wayyyy worth the gamble. For the 1.01 BTC I have, I paid about what a silly weekend in Vegas would cost for someone who isn't well off.

DBRiMatt

Karma farming. Next month will be the Bitcoin Faucet. We are also due for the Starcraft Tournament that offered BTC for 5th to 8th placed competitors too.

DBRiMatt

Or you would've panic sold your 500 BTC when it went f4rom $1 down to 20c. /s

Efficient_Visage

Well, depends on what you mean by wild. Percentage overall? Much more mild. Money overall? Still pretty wild. Im not saying this as a bad thing. The higher the value of BTC, even smaller swings are still worth a large amount of money, but also the more BTC you own, the less you feel those swings.

Shepinion

I was not that high nor was I THAT stressed but I did sell some to reduce exposure. When supporting an entire family, despite strong conviction, it was not the right balance for me and my family. I’d recommend you do something similar. Even buying some really special gift for your wife/family/self. People will hate that rec but you only have this life so treat yourself. If BTC crashes you feel great and if it moons you still have a huge %networth making money. My 2 cents

jbm747

We may not know when… but BTC has a solid history to rocketing when least expected. An explosion in price is inevitable.

PoisonWaffle3

I mined BTC for about six months in 2011. I've sold most of it off over the years but I still have 0.1 BTC from that left. I've also bought quite a bit more BTC over the years at the bottom of various cycles, and sold toward the top of the next cycle, but that 0.1 BTC that I mined is still sort of special to me.

PoisonWaffle3

All of those prices are today's prices, not the price at the time of the transaction. Check the time stamps on the left. BTC still would have been under $2/ea in early 2011.

thebalancewithin

Just invest in BTC, ignore everything else

CyberCrud

I looked up the statistics.   18% of homeowers in their 40s have paid off their mortgage.  40% of all age groups have paid off their mortgage and are debt free, with the large majority being over 65.  And 23% of all Americans are debt free.  So extrapolating that to those in their 40s, that would equate to about 4-6%.  Not "unheard of" but extremely rare.  I don't mind being in that bracket.  Thanks BTC!  💪

FilmInternational954

And I would add that also buying gold and silver has become increasingly harder lately. In fact, proportionally speaking, last year they have become 3 times harder to obtain than BTC… This is to say that the “fiat escape paths” are all getting harder to walk and BTC is actually the more achievable one.

PoisonWaffle3

It looks like he did get the 500 BTC about a month later, and also another 100 BTC. There were a few other transactions, then he emptied the wallet about a year later. [https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BHtsCnpmTvpgJEP7eMKEVhpJFunxSM8vq](https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BHtsCnpmTvpgJEP7eMKEVhpJFunxSM8vq) https://i.redd.it/voi8e914ldfg1.gif

everydaythrowaway82

For sure.. I don’t see that happening with all the institutional buy in.. I think we will see all time highs for both ETH and BTC this calendar year.

epic_trader

>Over half of ethereum in existence was created out of thin air by the Ethereum Foundation and given to themselves. The Ethereum Foundation held a public, open to everyone, widely announced crowdsale where thousands of people invested. 12 million out of 70 million ETH went to EF and early developers, rest was sold. Today that's 10% of the circulating supply, not 50%, which has kept paying for 12 years of Ethereum development. > Satoshi never gave himself free bitcoin, he earned it by mining it! You're joking right! Satoshi was mining with no competition for a year, amassing who knows how many BTC, at least 5% of the total supply, with no transparency. Centralized scam.

epic_trader

Ethereum didn't change its monetary *policy*, it reduced the issuance in accordance with its monetary policy. In 4 years when Bitcoin is issuing 1.56BTC as a block reward, did it change its policy?

Captain_Coty

The feeling here in this sub is that BTC will always grow, unless its security is compromised. Bitcoin is one of the most reliable networks, with nearly 99.99% uptime. We're far from a quantum computing threat. Predictions are pure speculation. It's a highly volatile asset. Nobody knows what the price will be at a specific time. My advice: Invest if you believe in Bitcoin (and don't look at the price). If you don't believe in it, learn about Bitcoin. If you still don't believe in it, don't invest and go for other assets.

biba8163

Holding its value? lol. ETH -30% from 4 years and 8 months ago. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20210511/ ETH is only ~2X from 8 years ago. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180113/ The S&P 500 is ~2.5X from 8 years ago. There is massive risk and zero reward for holding ETH long term when a safe investment of index funds outperforms it, The mental gymnastics trying to rationalize holding a double speculative asset that underperforms almost everything long term and historically has a 0.96 correlation coefficient to BTC only appreciates when BTC goes on bullruns is comical. - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021 - August 2025. ETH briefly touches past 2021 ATH after BTC breaks $120K

TripsterX

The fact that $100 could by the same amount of BTC back then as $2,355 can now is incredible to me😪

Basic-Nobody-Too

I’m a fan of life long learning. It may not be college, it could be vocation. Or learning by launching a business. The world and economy and job market is changing faster than before. With that, saving for life long learning is a great gift to your children. I’d do some 529, though you are usually stuck with their funds, you get a tax benefit. And I’d do BTC too. Track it all in a spread sheet or different wallet to clarify any other BTC you buy. Accumulate regularly and methodically. The 529 any relatives can contribute too and they get a tax advantage as well.

reddit4485

> In 20 years the Bitcoin block reward will have gone from 3.125 to 0.097 BTC. This is a ticking time bomb. How are you going to maintain today's level of security with just 3% of the revenue for miners? In 2009 I'm sure someone said: "In 16 years the Bitcoin block reward will have gone from 50 to 3.125 BTC. This is a ticking time bomb. How are you going to maintain today's level of security with just 6% of the revenue for miners?

NorthernMIsmoke

IMO one of the most important stats, which you didn’t list, is how many BTC are lost. 2.3-4 million BTC representing 11-19% of total supply is gone forever.

chagster001

Price of BTC does not dictate its inherent value. Gosh can we ban these kinds of posts??

Cutie_Patootie_UwU

10 BTC rn, i was 3 back then bro

Alonso_The_GOAT

No person with 20 BTC needs $10k from anyone. Is as simple as that.

The_Bitcoin_Act

Where does actual regular demand come from? Nations storing value doesn't magically keep price up, there have to be buyers that want/need it: Nations (and institutions) aren't just "storing value" passively, they actively buy because BTC offers uncorrelated diversification, inflation resistance, and geopolitical hedging in a world of eroding fiat trust. But regular demand isn't limited to governments: millions of individuals and businesses worldwide buy/hold BTC precisely because it's the hardest money ever created: fixed supply, no central printer, censorship-resistant, portable across borders without permission. In 2026, average people increasingly see it as a savings tool superior to depreciating cash in high-inflation environments, a hedge against bank failures/restrictions, or simply digital gold for wealth preservation. Demand comes from people who want protection from fiat debasement, not because a government forces them. Spot Bitcoin ETFs have become a massive, sustained demand channel, U.S. spot ETFs alone saw cumulative net inflows in the tens of billions (e.g., ~$56B+ AUM reported in early 2026 data, with periodic surges like $1.2B+ weekly inflows reversing prior outflows). It's steady, compliant accumulation from 401(k)s, endowments, and family offices treating BTC as a portfolio diversifier. Futures and derivatives add another layer of real demand: CME Bitcoin futures hit record volumes in 2025 (average daily crypto derivatives ~$12B, with Bitcoin futures leading), and that momentum carries into 2026 with high open interest and trading activity. Hedge funds, market makers, and institutions use futures for hedging, arbitrage, and gaining leveraged exposure. Options markets (on exchanges like Deribit or CME) and perpetual swaps further amplify this, with total crypto derivatives volume in the trillions annually, much tied to Bitcoin as the benchmark asset. Mania/frenzy = classic bubble: Bitcoin has survived multiple "bubbles" (2011, 2013, 2017, 2021) because the core thesis, sound, scarce, decentralized money, keeps strengthening with each cycle. It's not a bubble if the asset's properties keep delivering value over decades. Without government decree forcing taxes/oil in BTC, why does average Joe want it?: No, average Joe doesn't need a government decree to want BTC, he wants it for the exact opposite reason: it's the first money not controlled by any government or bank. Long-term demand drivers include: Inflation hedge / store of value: fiat loses purchasing power (endless money printing), BTC's supply is mathematically fixed. Financial sovereignty: escape capital controls, seizures, or surveillance (e.g., in authoritarian regimes or during banking crises). Remittances & borderless payments: cheaper/faster than traditional systems for millions in emerging markets. Network effects & adoption flywheel: more users/merchants/institutions onboard → higher utility/security → more demand. Speculative upside: yes, price appreciation attracts newcomers, but it's grounded in real scarcity and proven track record (outperforming every asset class long-term). Everyday usability and layers (Liquid Network, Lightning Network, Nostr, etc.): Beyond store-of-value, Bitcoin is evolving into actual usable money for regular people through second-layer solutions that make it fast, cheap, and private for daily transactions. Lightning Network (LN) in 2026 handles millions of near-instant, sub-cent (or effectively zero-fee) payments globally, coffee, micro-tipping, streaming sats, remittances, without clogging the base layer. Liquid Network adds confidential transactions, issued assets, and fast settlement for institutions and high-volume users. Nostr (built on Bitcoin principles) is exploding as a censorship-resistant social protocol where users zap sats for content. These layers turn Bitcoin from digital gold into digital cash for everyday use, driving real utility demand: people spend sats because they can, hold because they want to, and earn/zap because the ecosystem rewards it. That's the flywheel in action: more utility → more users → more demand → stronger network. Bitcoin isn't "just another fiat" even if a government mandates it for taxes (which would actually boost legitimacy/demand without changing its core properties). Fiat is unlimited, inflationary, and coercive and BTC is voluntary, scarce, and permissionless. Average Joe buys because he believes in sound money principles.

Odd-Farm270

It’s hard honestly, even long time BTC veterans fall into scams sometimes. What I would recommend is try to not hold all your BTC at one place and try to send it in small chunks. To be better protected (if you’re in the US with a Roth IRA) maybe consider buying BTC etf’s. People here tend to dislike them as you aren’t in control of your coins, but it’s far more simple to have for many people.

Federal_Mountain9438

Your great descendants will buy a house with the 0.001 BTC you left them

Sunset_Dreams7

How would he have stored his BTC? And how would he cash out?

ubermensch1001

You don't sound very smart, the whole point is that owning meaningful amounts of BTC is quickly going to become out of reach for the overwhelming majority of people to where they will be lucky to get even tiny fractions.

Possible_Peak_7929

6% BTC, 4% HYSA (Emergency fund), 50% Roth 401k (multiple TSP funds), 10% Roth IRA (ETFs), 30% (Individual Blue chip stocks)

Odd-Farm270

It was designed to be used like digital cash, however it tends to be seen as digital gold as it tends to maintain or increase purchasing power. The big difference with gold is that BTC is relatively young, which has both positive and negative aspects. Positive: bigger returns, easier to move Negative: Far more volatile, riskier to hold (scams)

Then-Negotiation-691

Yes people don't see that governments are carrying ever more debt while ever more fiat is getting privatised. It is an inverse money flow that translates directly into BTC being bought up by private individuals

Accord-ing_25_Tim

[Im in agreement with this Kevin O’Leary logic.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hit-wall-kevin-o-leary-141100894.html) People want to get onboard with BTC and cryptocurrency in general, but it can be tough to wrap your head around in its current state.

ubermensch1001

What's crazy is that the general public has been broadly aware of crypto/BTC for quite a while now. I remember in 2017 seeing a ton of youtube ads about how "this BTC thing is taking over the news". In 2018 I was in the car with a couple boomer relatives listening to the AM radio that was talking about BTC lol. The insane volatility in the 2018 bear market obviously scared off most people, 2022 as well. This asset class has a ton of tourists but very few people who actually understand BTC enough to where they actually buy and hold it. However, like you and I both mentioned, by the time the average person with tradfi retirement and investment tools starts getting it they will be incredibly far behind. I can't give an exact time prediction, but I'm thinking we see everything here play out within 2-3 more halvings, maybe the 2040 halving at the latest.

Code4Reddit

Yeah if people just knew how rare BTC is they’d want to buy it. Then the prices would go up!! I mean, have they read the white paper??

RecklessStallion9999

Agreed. I am currently stacking long term, looking at it as both an investment and a future currency. I’ve not spent it yet, but I’ve got a wallet with about 300 euros worth of BTC that I will use at some point to purchase something with BTC. We MUST start using it as currency for it to take flight, there’s no other way. The revolution starts with us.

longonbtc

Increasing the maximum supply of BTC would require a hard fork and that would create a new altcoin with its own separate blockchain, but only as long as some cryptocurrency miners are willing to mine this separate altcoin. Bitcoin would still exist with its own separate blockchain and nothing about Bitcoin would have been changed. In fact, this has already happened many times. There have already been more than a hundred altcoins that have been created by forking off from Bitcoin.

Accord-ing_25_Tim

Complete agree, and I am considering the future efficacy. I wouldn’t invest in BTC if I didn’t think it had a future. As with any investment, it’s sometimes difficult to envision where things are going to go, rather than just looking at where they currently are. I don’t believe this train is stopping though!

RecklessStallion9999

If you start thinking along the terms of 10 sats being equivalent to 10 euros/dollars and you’re using a BTC card linked to a BTC wallet with 10k sats that you’re using for your groceries, it will make sense.

jadeddog

Yeah BTC is a travesty for power, every article like this is so obviously biased it’s not even funny

biba8163

I've been warning noobs like you about falling for bullshit mETH Head narratives for years and years. You need to first learn about how crypto works. Now back to school noob. > **If you think 0.04 BTC is low, the ETH/BTC ratio is going to feel like getting kicked in the nuts over and over again over the long term as the ratio falls below 0.01** and goes lower and lower. > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. > | | Initial | High | Current | > |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| > | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC > | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS > | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC > | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9jvct/ > **Who the hell is buying ETH for $3,000+? That is insanely expensive. Plus, insiders, developers, VCs got a ton of the supply for essentially free and have oligarchical privilege to print their own ETH for free and dump until perpetuity.** And what does ETH even do? It's only a token in a digital casino and there are plenty of alternatives including subsidiary L2s and other cheaper casinos. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gujmk1/daily_crypto_discussion_november_19_2024_gmt0/lxzks6h/ > **I think one day people will realize how insane a run ETH had in 2020/21 and fools were forever chasing that euphoria.** > One of the things people seem to be missing is how much of a leveraged casino coin ETH was that drove this rise. Before the bullrun started in 2020, ETH was sitting at a relatively small ~$30 Billion marketcap. DAI was also sitting with $250 Million minted. > BTC started running in Q3 and by peak of the run, ETH was used locked as the native asset to mint $6.2 Billion in DAI. That $6.2 Billion is a massive injection of money into $30 Billion marketcap with an undertoe of a parabolic BTC bullrun and bullish sentiment. Compare that to the total of only ~$3 Billion inflow into ETFs today when ETH is ~$300 Billion marketcap and it's easy to see why the marketcap won't budge much. > Leveraging ETH to pump its markecap is not dissimilar to burning LUNA to mint UST which drove LUNA to a $40 Billion marketcap. Everyone calls that a scam mechanism but the same type of mechanism that pumped ETH is considered DeFI. > BTC parabolic moves, leveraged native ETH to mint DAI, DeFi casino narrative, NFTs, staking hype, triple halving memes, ultra-sound monies.......and Covid lockdown and money > It was a perfect storm. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1indhrk/daily_crypto_discussion_february_12_2025_gmt0/mcdygp1/?context=3

Helpful_plumber362

there is no difference between a 'offline wallet', it's still on the blockchain even if cold. But also, it took me 2 minutes to find out that you are in the atlanta area. The feds are buying data in mass from this very website add that in with the various cookies and tracking mechanisms spread across the internet and the bits of entropy start getting slim. Even monero was cracked recently. BTC having any privacy or anonymity was one it's greatest lies.

uduni

Huh? The demand is massive… its a 2 trillion asset. Its worth more than GBP i think. But supply is also high (OG whales with billions of $ in BTC). I agree it will probably hit $69420 before starting to go up again

uduni

Everyone will have to buy BTC eventually. Including bankers

Beginning_Text9292

They may not have any loyalty to the little guy. Saylor has a good chunk of stock, as well as other board members who I heard one of which just bought a good chunk of MSTR with their own money…. So they do care about share price, and SATs/share. Carl Rickertsen bought 5,000 shares of MSTR common stock for approximately $779,395 (at an average price of about $155.88 per share) around January 12-13, 2026. This was his first purchase in over 3.5 years. Jane Dietze bought 1,000 shares of preferred perpetual stock (STRC/Stretch) for ~$99K at $99.48. - This one is Not MSTR stock, it does also show belief in how MSTR is raising money to buy BTC. STRC is currently paying an 11% yield. Many people with Bonds that pay 4.5% would do better putting 10% of those bonds into STRC. Even better in a taxable account since the dividends are not taxed until you sell. (Make sure to hold >1 year to pay lower taxes)

spuriouslycertain

Belief is a powerful drug.I did at one point take reckless loans to buy bitcoin back in 2019-2020 but nothing like this where I risked losing my home. I took out 50k on my credit card with a 0% offer and bought almost 8 BTC.Would i do this again even though it worked out beautifully last time?probably not. The important point is to reach escape velocity where you can cash out every few years and your stack to continues to grow over time.Kind of like the Bitcoin guy and his story!

JackTheKing

What is decentralizing about Saylor buying a lot of BTC?

_Adrian_Morris_

You can't time the market and BTC per share | yield are largely irrelevant metrics.

Accord-ing_25_Tim

I do like that more places are using it as currency, but I still find the transaction process cumbersome. Maybe it’s because I’ve only bought and never sold? Idk. I view it more as a store of wealth rather than currency. You wouldn’t go to the grocery store and shave off pieces of a gold bar at checkout. Kinda view BTC the same.

biba8163

Almost time I see someone talking shit about BTC not doing shit and being stagnant, I recognize the username as someone who lost money on ETH or some shitcoin > Smart money selling btc etf in anticipation for eth etf 🙂‍↔️👉🏽😏 **(July 2024, BTC $65K, ETH $3,500)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1dg502i/daily_crypto_discussion_june_15_2024_gmt0/l8sf9yk/

TexasBoyz-713

Considering the diminishing returns and overall maturing of BTC, I can see us slowly crabbing downwards for the year with $60k’s being the bottom (that is if orange man don’t do anything stupid but he will) towards the end of this year

ubermensch1001

The whole point is buy what you can, hold it and make sure you don't lose it. Hell, just look at the BTC rich list, you'll see that the vast majority of the supply is held by wallets with >1 BTC, which is around 1 million addresses, entities, individuals, etc. Sure, this isn't an exact number, but it's a rough equivalent.

UseIntelligent6282

If you see your BTC portfolio go down and you’re upset you don’t know enough about BTC. Do you research and if you aren’t comfortable with your investment dropping 70% and being okay with it you should not be buying BTC. Maybe you could stick with the Nasdaq etf or something less volatile. Everytime I see my portfolio down on BTC i am like.. do I buy more… and most the time I do

ubermensch1001

In late Q4 of last year we were at levels of fear and sell side pressure that were comparable to the end of the 2018 bear market, the COVID crash of March 2020 AND the fallout after the collapse of FTX. Retail is totally absent right now, so this is a fantastic place to accumulate. I wouldn't hold out on waiting for something like that, but it would be a super rare event. There will be more of these in the future, but by then it might be where BTC is at 150k or whatever number. If you give yourself a long enough time horizon, none of this matters. It's like trying to time the market in late 2018 through 2020, it wouldn't have mattered if your average was the absolute low at 3.5k vs. say 7k if you had fast forwarded to 2021, let alone now.

CUbuffGuy

If BTC stays flat for years they will continue to dilute commons and the stock price will go down, but BTC will be fine.

DrEtatstician

If 1 institution like MSTR. Is owning 5% of supply , the very purpose of instrument ( few people like central banks can’t control narrative for BTC) is totally destroyed

Low-Tangelo-9721

Bro I’m over here trying to get to 1BTC and you’re over here trying to get to 2? Good for you

_Adrian_Morris_

Him buying BTC is not a bad thing

ubermensch1001

Bro, there will be demand for this asset and it will eventually get to the point where even .001 BTC is actually something people would be thrilled to have. People buy and hold without selling + continued demand, not hard to understand.

One_Talk_3410

5% BTC, rest stocks and bonds and cash

Adventurous_Mode_369

Because If BTC tanks, I lose my investment. I have to lick my wounds and walk away, and get ready to rebuild. You have debt collectors at your door and your owed balance continues to grow with interest. Im comfortable gambling my money but NEVER with someone else’s.

chicadepanem

I wish I had received 500 BTC

ubermensch1001

Why would they do that instead of just using it to back their currencies or even use BTC itself as the currency?

crunchyeyeball

It sounds like you already know the answer. Obviously it's a scam. The only question is whether the actual scammer is your friend's friend, or someone your friend's friend is in contact with. I.e. *Maybe* both *your* friend and *his* friend are victims, and your friend's friend has just been fooled into thinking he has 20 BTC and is desperately trying to access them with your friend's help. Either way, there's no 20 BTC.

jgarcya

If BTC is so scarce.. how can microstrategy continue buying thousands of BTC.... In the over the counter market.... Which doesn't even effect the price... But you and I if we all started buying thousands of BTC of the open market price would slowly go up... It's a game of good for me, but not for you.... And you are always the loser.... When they are always the winner... They just released Sam bankmans girlfriend... She steals millions if not billions and does a few years... What a joke!

Street_Outside_7228

WallSt and CBank are in same kind of danger from quantum computing even if BTC never existed.

ubermensch1001

The crypto market in 2022, where we saw the crypto lending platforms collapse, FTX fallout, etc. was totally different than where we are now. Think about the tail end of 2022 right after FTX collapsed and where BTC was below 20k, would you have imagined that 14 months later we would have seen BTC ETFs being launched by tradfi institutions? It's actually kind of insane to think about when you reflect on what had happened in such a short period of time.

lampstax

I guess what I don't see from your analysis is WHY people would need to get .1 or .01 BTC .. not throwing shade as I own more than that but currently BTC isn't' a necessity for anyone.

strodobaggins

Mostly agree, with one important caveat. You’re right that the constraint is liquidity, not issuance. BTC supply is fixed, but *tradable* supply keeps shrinking as coins move to cold storage, ETFs, treasuries, and long-term holders who psychologically don’t care about short-term price. That absolutely makes price more demand-elastic. The nuance: those coins aren’t *gone*, they’re just price-inelastic until a regime shift. Liquidity disappears quietly on the way up, then reappears violently when price crosses certain thresholds (profit-taking, macro stress, forced selling). That’s why BTC rips and dumps feel discontinuous instead of smooth. So yeah basically future squeezes won’t be about “running out of Bitcoin,” they’ll be about running out of sellers at current prices. And when sellers finally show up, they usually all show up at once. That dynamic is exactly why BTC trades more like a reflexive asset than a commodity now.

ubermensch1001

What is that 2nd best? They can still get BTC, it's just that they'll be getting small amounts of it. For instance, right now it costs just under $1,000 for .01 BTC but imagine a scenario where BTC is $3,000,000, this would cost 30k, which is a lot of money for most people. In a scenario like that getting .001 would be reasonable/realistic.

Electronic-Safe8081

The chart you linked to only shows the total BTC held on centralized exchanges, not all Bitcoin, it’s just the amount on exchange wallets

FromThePits

Ask yourself. Do I have the stomach for it? I have held my savings in BTC through 3 +50% dips since 2019. It's a rollercoaster at times. The longterm benefit for me is a X20 gain on those initial transfers, so no regrets. Just know what you're in for.

AcomaPueblo

What a crazy MFer. Anything over 100 BTC is nuts

biba8163

- BTC Dominance is now over 66% - BTC Marketcap is up 45% from 2021 - Alt Marketcap is down -40% from 2021 - Stablecoin Marketcap is up 190% from 2021 | | Jun. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | January. 2026 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $40.4 Billion | $1.23 Trillion | $1.787 Trillion | Stablecoins | $0.13 Billion| $0.11 Trillion | $0.32 Trillion | Ex.BTC/Stablecoins | $66.6 Billion |$1.52 Trillion | $0.913 Trillion | Total Crypto | $107.13 Billion |$2.86 Trillion | $3.02 Trillion | **BTC Dominance** | **37.8%** | **44.7%** | **66.19%** **BTC Dominance excludes stablecoins*

Tobocaj

Yea let’s see some posts of the people who did this exact same thing when BTC hit 120k lol

HumanNo109850364048

They have ~5000 BTC, a top 20 corporate holder of BTC globally

biba8163

> I guess we are going up now. 🤡🤡🤡 > The rabid ETH FUD right now is a massive signal to buy more ETH **(Dec. 2023)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18la5ne/best_time_to_convert_eth_to_btc/kdxqhew/ > so much eth hate... it’s about to rocket upward **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0 > Not sure why you’d sell ETH right now when it’s going to increase multiples more than BTC **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1b3wzne/sell_eth_for_btc/ > Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Drops to Lowest Since April 2021 **(Sep. 2024)** > Nice time to buy then https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fic4xz/etherbitcoin_ratio_drops_to_lowest_since_april/

texaslovesme

I have about 75% in my portfolio in BTC. 🤷‍♀️ Itrust Capital Ira is a great company to use. I put about half there and half fidelity.

No_Giraffe_4647

Good point of view so if we all sellwe make BTC affordable and then they could rotate their inflated gold position into BTC, nice trick but not falling for it

boringtired

Not exactly. You could watch Benjamin Cowen and he has been saying this for five years. The ups and downs aren’t as extreme anymore the longer the asset is alive. Yea there’s wild swings in 2017 etc, prior bull runs you’d lose 90% of the value in subsequent crypto winters but what 99.99% of people in crypto have not been paying attention to is that the asset is stabilizing over time. You see it in the grim reaper meme posts with 100k 100k 100k 100k etc. BTC is stabilizing.

NoRespond2901

I honestly thought the Coinbase breach claims were fake at first, but harrerlaw.org turned out to be legit. Took like 5 minutes to check. Kinda wild how often these “rumors” end up being real lately. Anyway… hope BTC bounces after all this 😅

ivan971

Yes more tariffs threats to cause BTC to go down.

Sage_of_spice

10% BTC 90% equal distribution global total market ETFs.

Street_Outside_7228

Markets can always go lower, real question is do you the discount as opportunity or not? BTC is notorious for going -50% or lower from the top price every 4yrs and the last time it did that was 2022 when it bottomed at $16k from a $64k top.

Expensive_Special120

Selling BTC just below the top and rebuying later even more BTC while crypto bros hold their small bags

flying-fox200

My pleasure bro!! Also, the best staking mechanisms *don't* actually go through a centralised platform. I recommended RocketPool because it's governed entirely through smart contracts, and its code has been audited by thousands worldwide. BTC, ETH, SOL and XMR comprise a really solid mix. Bitcoin Cash (BCH) might also be worth considering. You're right! Better focus on the big ones rather than stretch yourself too thin.