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-GolfIsEasy-

Honestly I read about half that because you just did what he did. I’m a maxi. A real maxi. I don’t value BTC in dollars.

Wendy_Hopkins

FOMO at first if I’m being completely honest 😂 Bought some BTC, then ETH, then started messing around with alts. Eventually got Tangem cards and started them instead of leaving everything on coinbase, and it kinda snowballed from there. Now I’m probably more interested in how crypto can actually be used than I was when I first bought in, it was all just fun and games at that point.

NeonMaxi

I manage a private equity fund that that also own 40% of and it engages in investing strategies by participating in the defy ecosystem. The goal for us is not delta exposure to Bitcoin price so the strategies are not really what your asking but since you want to know about if anyone is doing this with a boring strategic approach, I think this counts. We deploy concentrated liquidity to exchange protocols like Uniswap. We target big volume pools with stable assets or assets that fit the risk profile of the fund. That is usually ETH, BTC, USDC that sort of stuff. Lately we are the top market making wallets on Robinhood chain because the volume there is so massive. The strategy is not about buying low and hoping for a higher sell in the future, rather it is about finding where the volume opportunity is TODAY and then participating in that TODAY. No directions bets. The capital gains and other tax commitments generated by that activity is then offset with neutral delta funding farming on short sold ETH and BTC collateralized in kind. Mostly on platforms like GMX, DYDX, or to a smaller amount Hyperliquid. The combination of those strategies give the fund a massive income (funding fees and fees payed for lp are income, not gains) and a substantial gain for the concentrated liquidity range realizing profits from asset appreciation. Those commitments are offset by the funding farming which also generates about 20% apy on its initial value. You can use your crypto wallet and do literally all that from your computer in your room in your undies.

Turd_ferguson222

What’s actually decentralized about it? This is the biggest lie you all tell. Still absolutely zero use case and we know the epstine cartel is all over BTC and Tether it’s all fraud and you’re the sucker getting got

T_sauce9112

This is why I couldn't do that, read this : Can u tell me how many prompts it took for us to formulate the retracment thesis we have built? Yes. Based on the conversation history I can reconstruct, we're well over 100 prompts into developing and stress-testing the BTC retracement thesis. My best estimate is roughly 120–160 user prompts, beginning in earnest around mid-August and accelerating from Aug. 19 through today. That's not counting my responses as prompts. And importantly, those weren't 120 variations of "tell me BTC is going down." We progressively attacked the thesis from different directions: cycle history, MVRV, Bollinger mean reversion, RSI divergences, market structure, 80–85K liquidity, positioning, ETF flows, institutional/retail sentiment, historical bottoms, Elliott/Fibonacci structures, credit spreads, yields/rates, Fed policy, labor data, inflation, Japan, recession indicators, influencer theses, lunar-cycle claims, ETH/BTC divergences, liquidation maps, and potential catalyst timing. There were also several prompts where you specifically told me to look for evidence that contradicted the thesis, test whether the bottom actually was in, determine whether the four-year cycle had broken, and find what would invalidate the retracement rather than simply reinforce it. So the thesis we're sitting on now—roughly 80–85K as a potential distribution/liquidity-sweep region → meaningful downside with ~70K as the primary retracement area and 60–65K as the deeper-tail scenario—wasn't generated from one clever prompt. It evolved through dozens of independent questions and probably ~120–160 iterations. If we count every individual back-and-forth involved in the BTC thesis, including earlier work before Aug. 19, I wouldn't be surprised if we're approaching 200 total analytical iterations. This is why I'm so confident...

ATP_generator

actually shows the opposite bc people are saying they'll hold onto their BTC until the price is absurdly high, which actually signals that its trading price is likely to go up and up over time.

LatinoCrypto

BTC 6k, ETH 3k, HYPE 1k

ukulele87

If you have 2k BTC, you can do better than a shit subreddit filled with publicity and bots. You can probably do better than a site you just recently discovered. But you know what they say, easy come easy go.

DontLook_Weirdo

Diversifying my shit. BTC and my Roth are the things I invest in on a permanent level. I DCA both and it's just set it and forget it. I plan to use both for when I do retire, 38 rn. Whatever is left from either goes straight to my kid, including the house.

Immapillpopnanimal

I invest and trade options. Stocks are great they have worked for people for 100+ years but Bitcoin is honestly more of a currency like the Euro or dollar than it is like a stock.. stocks and options and futures are more like betting on kalshi BTC 15min.. as you are speculating on the direction of the price of something.. it's a lot safer than BTC 15min I'm just trying to give an example you might understand.. it's also like gambling but as I said.. A safer bet than black jack.. lol

T_sauce9112

There's my receipts. I believe in my analysis, even if they rest of you don't. I came on here to present what I found, not to be mocked or laughed at. If I'm mocked or laughed at I will defend myself and my postion, even if it makes me look like I think I'm the smartest guy in the room. I know I'm not the smartest guys, but im not the dumbest, and I always learn from my mistakes. I wouldn't have been able to put 135 contracts done on BTC if I wasn't good at what I do. Nobody is always right, but if I'm Wright 65% more than I'm wrong, I'll be profitable. And in case u guys havnt figure it out AI CAN HELP U DO THAT!!!!

RandomPlayerCSGO

I used to have more crypto but stocks and gold have been going crazy the past 2 years, when I get older I'll slowly transition to more like 70% stocks and gold and 30% BTC and monero

proXtu

Well, until now, the main ideea was that BTC is the network aka the nodes, decentralized, and the miners are employed to mine and they get paid. Obviously, its not the case anymore. Pools can do whatever they want, because they make the block template, not the miners. Also, Core can put whatever they want in their node, because they have more than 80% of the nodes. Just wait and see.

T_sauce9112

Let me ask my chap bot how many time BTC has gone down after rates cuts. Ohhhhhh what do u know BTC was lower 30 days after 7 of 11 Fed rate cuts. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 can u be anymore of an ass clown professional trader?

RetiredAvocado

Use the exchange, not the vending service. https://www.coinbase.com/advanced-trade/spot/BTC-USD

patelbadboy2006

Arb pump is somewhat real. Robin hood chain is popping off and generating a lot in fees that arb get 10% off. No it isn't alt season. It's BTC season and everything else is tagging along.

vlal97

The 30% p/year is an average IF someone holds it for 4 years its not every single year BTC appreciates 30%. Also we've seen the perils of BTC lending before in Celsius. Many lost their BTC. If the BTC collateral can be structured in a contract so that you still hold the keys to that collateral then its interesting. Otherwise not your keys not your coins. Expect to lose it.

T_sauce9112

Nobody is arguing that higher rates are good for BTC, genius. The part you're missing is WHY rates are being cut. Cuts with stable growth and improving liquidity? Bullish as fuck. Cuts because unemployment is ripping higher, credit is breaking and everyone is scrambling for dollars? Risk assets can get smoked first and BTC isn't magically exempt because it has a blockchain. Your jobs report example actually proves BTC is rate sensitive. It doesn't prove BTC can only go up when rates fall. You trade for a living but somehow turned a correlation into a law of physics. Congrats 😂

Suspicious-Can-7079

Yes you are wrong. You just asked AI if asset prices can fall with rate cuts and got a bias driven response. The fact you keep replying is hilarious. BTC and crypto live off lower interest rates they don't trade like traditional assets, they pump on cuts and drop on hikes. Jackson hole last week, warsh said they have to work on inflation which means rate hikes are on the table, what happened btc dropped. Just the other day, jobs report came out strong and pumped up rate hike odds, what happened? Btc dropped. You see how I am able to actually responded without prompting a chat bot? It's because I trade for a living and understand I'm not the smartest person in the room.

palmdata

for tuition, price the whole route—not just the BTC fee: India on-ramp spread + send fee + UK off-ramp spread + bank withdrawal. BTC can move 5–10% while it’s in transit; if both sides have compliant stablecoin/remittance rails, that may be less volatile. test with a small amount first.

hoppeeness

This. BTC consistently above \~$82,500. Though maybe this is the cycle that’s finally different and the utility chains finally disconnect from BTC…but seems like that will be 2-4 years out

chubs66

people don't want to buy when it's down significantly because there is always the very real fear that this cycle is unlike previous cycles and the BTC experiment ends (and this can be due to any number of factors such as quantum computing breaking cryptography)

T_sauce9112

Yes rate cuts can absolutely coincide with falling asset prices. The key distinction is why the Fed is cutting. When cuts are preventive/normalization cuts while growth, employment, earnings and credit remain healthy, falling rates usually support equities, BTC and other risk assets. When cuts are recessionary/emergency cuts, the opposite can happen. The Fed is cutting because economic deterioration is moving faster than monetary easing can repair it. In that environment, liquidity is improving but earnings expectations, employment, credit quality and risk appetite are deteriorating faster. Dumb ass

ubermensch1001

Going to give you a long response. Becoming familiar with price action and being able to recognize the correct times to be buying vs. just letting everything ride is the most important thing to get down. As mentioned, I first got into this market in late Q1/early Q2 of 2018, basically right at the beginning of the bear market. I didn't know wtf I was doing and had no concept of the cycles and basically was buying way too heavily on the way down. By the fall of 2018 I had figured out a dollar cost averaging strategy that worked for me. I also rode the mini bull market wave going into the summer of 2019, which was when I significantly slowed down my accumulation and stacked cash, which allowed me to buy heavily late 2019. Most people get wrecked by this market because they seem to buy in at the incorrect times in the market. That's why there are so many people that complain about a certain alt or whatever but when they reveal when and where they bought it all makes sense. For instance, tons of people were buying ETH at 4k in 2024 and complaining about it being dead. I would also say that people take on way more risks in this market than they need to be, particularly with overspeculation on alts. The reality is that if you buy BTC during the lows of the bear market years you can make massive gains without taking the risks associated with alts. For instance, in 2022 I executed my plan by heavily buying BTC when we were at the 200 week moving average, back then it was around 20k. I made some large moves in the 2nd half of 2022/early 2023 and then let that ride from there. I did the same thing here in 2026 by buying BTC in the 60k range. I also did/have accumulated alts as well, but with the exception of 2021 or in very isolated and specific times they mostly just tag along with BTC or in the worst case scenario they bleed against it. Alts in my opinion are great for swing trading opportunities if you can learn when to buy them but holding them for the long term is a complete waste. For instance, in late 2020 I bought some large bags of LTC at an average price of $40 and rode this into $400 in the spring of 2021. If I had continued to hold through now my original investment would have been roughly break even to slightly up for YEARS. Meanwhile, if the capital I had invested into LTC in late 2020 was allocated into BTC at 10k and I held I would have been up the entire time, and by significant margins as well minus late 2022/early 2023. This 2024/2025 cycle we had virtually no alt season, but I also think that we are on the cusp of another one now that retail has been completely shaken out and alts were at abysmal levels in June of this year. With that said, I see alts as a massive risk with regards to not losing $ but potentially losing out on sats that you could be locking in for the long term. You can do both, but most people screw this up.

T_sauce9112

So ur saying this is common knowledge to average redditor? Or regular investor for that matter? Im Not saying I found a needle In A hay stack, im identifying macro economics events that may or may not lead to a retracemt in BTC. Which would help, anybody who isn't in the know as u explain how to position themselves. And its for FREE!!! U telling me CNN, MSNBC, FOX business is gonna break it down for u this way? Get the fuck outta here. It seems like ur mad that I write the way that I write, not about the information I'm giving. And if that's the case ur a clown, actually a female clown 🤣🤣 I am in no way tell anybody they are wrong, like u r. I'm saying we aren't as bullish as the headlines are making it seem.

quintavious_danilo

I started to DCA in march and it’s still ongoing. If the question was meant broader: this is my first year of deploying this strategy. Been into BTC since 2022 but only very occasionally, brining here and there. Biting my ass for not buying more when it was obviously low and of course buying too much when it was too expensive. This is the first time I’m putting a clear strategy in place.

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bbatardo

People can speculate, but after Warsh talks September 16th we will have a good idea where things go. Right now there is a 58% chance of a 25 bps hike and if that happens BTC will dip naturally. On the flipside if they hold and hint and no hike in October we will keep running through midterms. 

T_sauce9112

Exactly, so a strong jobs report means nothing if they revise down. So that means we have a weak labor market, which will forced fed to think about cutting, which means BTC takes another dip.

spaceleafxyz

Shouldn’t drive you up a wall worrying about what others are doing with their money. Not very productive. The whole sector mostly behaves like super high risk assets with BTC being the only one that both has consistently bounced back with the most reduced drawdowns. Do with that what you will.

zerg_001

Getting back in in October no matter the price. 4 year cycle calendar works decent for timing BTC

T_sauce9112

Is this fear mongering or objective analysis of the upcoming economic reports, that may or may not affect BTC? I'm leaNing towards DEFINETLY 🤣

RecoverOld9545

I'm gonna start doing monthly DCA into mostly BTC but also major like HYPE, TAO, LINK, XRP. Still have ETH and SOL from last bull market that are in staking. Bear market is easy, bull markets are hell.

Finalbossops

Cramer said buy BTC what did you expect 🤣

AdmirableSock192

Multiple times. If BTC stays below a level, another buy can happen after 7 days. So if it stays between -30% and -40% for a month, there could be roughly four $10 buys. If it drops below -40%, the $20 level applies instead.

blade0r

Sure thing, and yet you’re the one forced to sell 0.37 BTC.

T_sauce9112

And if it affect the stock market, u better believe its gonna affect BTC, and not in a positive way. I'm leaning heavy towards this being a bear market rally before final capitulation. Whether that final capitulation makes a new low or a higher low is something no body knows. Either way I'm buying 60k-70k or below as much as I can. I'm not waiting for 40-50k

Potatotornado20

Look up Power Law and Giovanni on X. He thinks BTC goes to $1M in 2033 and $10M in 2045. So you still have to buy BTC, start stacking

T_sauce9112

I agree, rates will not be lowered, im leaning towards a continued pause. Which isn't the best for BTC. The Japan situation is really what I think is at play, and in the next 2-3 week I think BTC sweep the liquidity we have around 70k. It the highest probability right now since it has attacked 82k 3-4 times and has been rejected, even though we have etfs sustaining the rally. We had a huge pop from 77k - 82k on bullish fed news and jobs reports and it still couldn't clear 82k. Thats not a good sign...

quintavious_danilo

My strategy is to buy $5k/month whenever BTC starts its bear market and is \~50% down from ATH. I then continue the DCA as long as BTC is below the last cycles ATH. I might eyeball it a little though, but anything below 100k I’m keeping my $5k/m schedule. AT or above $125k, I stop my DCA and start to accumulate cash to be deployed the next time BTC falls 50% from ATH.

6DeliciousInches

I think if you are not trying to all in crypto, but do want to invest, then whatever investment allocation you put monthly towards investments, just make some percentage blue chip crypto (BTC/eth). Let’s say 5-10%. I’m giving you this advice while I have a 400x leverage BTC long open btw

T_sauce9112

Omg, imma pray for u. And leave my chapgpt anaylsis here The price is going back to 1.10 around September 11-16 is my time horizon. We have HUGE catalyst that can most likely push BTc to the down side. Sept. 10 — U.S. PPI Sept. 11 — U.S. CPI Sept. 15–16 — Fed Sept. 17–18 — BOJ 1. September 10–16 is the obvious macro danger window This is probably the cleanest scheduled catalyst cluster. The official BLS calendar has PPI September 10 and CPI September 11, both at 8:30 a.m. ET. Then only four trading days later, the Fed meets September 15–16, with the decision on the 16th. And because this is a quarterly meeting, we also get the new Summary of Economic Projections/dot plot. 2. Japan may be the underappreciated one This is the catalyst I'm most interested in investigating further. Japan's bond market has been undergoing an enormous regime change. Japanese yields are at multi-decade highs, the yen has recently strengthened sharply, and markets are debating additional BOJ tightening. Why should a BTC trader care? Because for years investors could: borrow cheap yen → convert it → buy higher-yielding/risk assets → lever the trade. When Japanese rates rise and the yen strengthens, that trade becomes less attractive. Investors unwind: risk assets sold → currencies converted back to yen → yen appreciates → additional carry trades become painful → more deleveraging. That's the yen carry unwind. There's a second macro window after the Fed September 30 is another interesting date. BEA releases both the final Q2 GDP/corporate-profits data and August Personal Income and Outlays, which includes the Fed's preferred PCE inflation measures. Bureau of Economic Analysis And JOLTS arrives September 29. Bureau of Labor Statistics So September has effectively three macro clusters: Sept 10–11 PPI → CPI Sept 15–16 Fed → dot plot → Powell Sept 29–30 JOLTS → PCE → income/spending → corporate profits. That's a lot of opportunities for volatility. Rather than trying to predict the actual headline, I'd watch the financial fingerprints that usually appear before the headline becomes obvious: USDJPY rapidly falling — yen strengthening/carry unwind. Japanese yields rising — BOJ/liquidity stress. US 2Y rising — Fed repricing. DXY rising simultaneously — tightening global dollar liquidity. High-yield spreads widening — actual credit stress. VIX rising while equities haven't fallen much — hedging occurring before spot selling. BTC Coinbase premium weakening again — institutional spot bid disappearing. BTC OI remaining elevated while price falls — liquidation fuel building. ETF inflows continuing while BTC stops responding — absorption. If three or four of those begin moving together while BTC remains unable to clear $82–83K, it's highly probable we will sweep lower liquidity at 72k-75k This is my base case. We are bot breaking downside structure until Dec-Jan

One-Adhesiveness-138

Then I adjusted the weekly DCA amount for each period so both approaches invested roughly the same amount of money. I didn’t want the result to come from one side simply putting more money into BTC. This is always going to benefit a drawdown based strategy when you take the same invested amount and spread it over the entire interval as DCA, but in reality you won't know that "DCA chunk" until the end of your backtest. I struggled with this and decided w fairer approach is assigning a fixed daily/weekly/monthly (depending on your frequency) amount you are willing to invest (this is your dumb DCA). Now work your strategy within this framework. Any week that you don't spend gets accrued, any week that calls for more cash than the strategy accrued is taken in advance (set a reasonable limit of how much advance is allowed, maybe 20x your fixed amount or a fixed cap, so it's not infinite).

lostnov04

Pay the mortgage off. Then use 1/2 my legacy mortgage payment to start BTC again.

blaziken8x

better a bird in hand than a pigeon on roof (2x on BTC for sure vs 3-5x on alts if you're lucky)

TheGuinnessGuzzler

BTC and ETH if you don't actually do anything online imo. Both established and have a base that's taken the highs and low that it will always have some value. That being said I'm a degen

Bongressman

BTC can't even break and hold above the 50 WMA...classically that means a spike, then a drop into October/November. You are locking these in at the very top of a normal end of summer bear market rally. Turn off YouTube.

Such-Elephant-9943

Another very interesting mechanism is what Scott Bessent mentioned maybe 2 weeks ago where he said the treasurey would “debt cycle”. Which means they issue a ton of short term debt which is 1 and 3 month bills and use that money to buy down the long term debt. This is only possible because short term debt has a lower interest rate than long term debt. And thats possible because the Fed hasn’t hiked its rates yet. We are at 3.75% If this is indeed happening then we would see a dip in long term yeilds. But at the expense of rising short term debt payments. It’s like maxxing out your credit card to pay your mortgage payments. And like OP mentioned, they would deplete the $1T of treasury funds to do this. In the medium term, maybe for 1-2 years, they can make this work. Until these funds last. Yeilds on the 30-yr may fall to within a 100bps difference from the 1-yr. BTC until then will have a steady and slow growth. They will need to print afterwards. And thats when we go parabolic my friends!

CrazyButRightOn

The POTUS and the fed are bullish with the possibility of lowering interest rates. They are already talking about how inflation isn't really as high as we think it is. This will pump BTC

grapedog

When I retire, if I can use Bitcoin to buy my forever home, I'll buy it and leave the rest alone, life off my pension and other investments. Yearly I max out my 401k, my personal IRA, and dump into a brokerage along with buying BTC. I'm in a good position, if BTC can make it better and buy me a home, then it will have done its job and been worth the investment.

apathy420

I just posted this as a reply, but I have been depositing usd and buying BTC here and there for years, and almost immediately sending it out with no issues. This last time, for some reason, when I deposited the usd and bought BTC it was immediately placed on hold. That’s never happened before. So now I’m hoping this next week I can at least access my funds :/

apathy420

I just had this happen to me too out of the blue on kraken… I’ve been depositing usd and buying BTC here and there for years, and almost immediately sending it out. but this last time for some reason my funds are on hold for 7 days. Never happened before. And same funding source.

Sixtus3319

So far, BTC is far from full adoption in the economic system, so increase in adoption will drive its value up. And after that, its purchasing power will keep growing anyway - simply because on one hand, some BTC is constantly lost (people lose keys, pass away etc) and on the other hand economic efficiency increases, so each unit of currency buys more

T_sauce9112

The price is going back to 1.10 around September 11-16 is my time horizon. We have HUGE catalyst that can most likely push BTc to the down side. Sept. 10 — U.S. PPI Sept. 11 — U.S. CPI Sept. 15–16 — Fed Sept. 17–18 — BOJ 1. September 10–16 is the obvious macro danger window This is probably the cleanest scheduled catalyst cluster. The official BLS calendar has PPI September 10 and CPI September 11, both at 8:30 a.m. ET. Bureau of Labor Statistics +1 Then only four trading days later, the Fed meets September 15–16, with the decision on the 16th. And because this is a quarterly meeting, we also get the new Summary of Economic Projections/dot plot. 2. Japan may be the underappreciated one This is the catalyst I'm most interested in investigating further. Japan's bond market has been undergoing an enormous regime change. Japanese yields are at multi-decade highs, the yen has recently strengthened sharply, and markets are debating additional BOJ tightening. Eurasia Business News +1 Why should a BTC trader care? Because for years investors could: borrow cheap yen → convert it → buy higher-yielding/risk assets → lever the trade. When Japanese rates rise and the yen strengthens, that trade becomes less attractive. Investors unwind: risk assets sold → currencies converted back to yen → yen appreciates → additional carry trades become painful → more deleveraging. That's the yen carry unwind. There's a second macro window after the Fed September 30 is another interesting date. BEA releases both the final Q2 GDP/corporate-profits data and August Personal Income and Outlays, which includes the Fed's preferred PCE inflation measures. Bureau of Economic Analysis And JOLTS arrives September 29. Bureau of Labor Statistics So September has effectively three macro clusters: Sept 10–11 PPI → CPI Sept 15–16 Fed → dot plot → Powell Sept 29–30 JOLTS → PCE → income/spending → corporate profits. That's a lot of opportunities for volatility. Rather than trying to predict the actual headline, I'd watch the financial fingerprints that usually appear before the headline becomes obvious: USDJPY rapidly falling — yen strengthening/carry unwind. Japanese yields rising — BOJ/liquidity stress. US 2Y rising — Fed repricing. DXY rising simultaneously — tightening global dollar liquidity. High-yield spreads widening — actual credit stress. VIX rising while equities haven't fallen much — hedging occurring before spot selling. BTC Coinbase premium weakening again — institutional spot bid disappearing. BTC OI remaining elevated while price falls — liquidation fuel building. ETF inflows continuing while BTC stops responding — absorption. If three or four of those begin moving together while BTC remains unable to clear $82–83K, I'd be considerably more interested in your $70K front-run. This is my base case. We are not going up until at least demecember into January

Over-Cardiologist769

BTC, Eth, XRP, Sol

Cotee

Buy BTC. Hold BTC. That’s it. If it’s up a lot from where you bought it, sell some. If it’s below the price you bought it, hold it. I’ve never lost money on BTC. I’ve been down on BTC but in my 6 years, it’s always come back around no matter what craziness goes on around it.

Queggie

Longterm 1-2% BTC and maybe little bit ETH nothing els.

skysafe

Buy a home 100% full ownership. Keep 1 BTC to retire on, and use my full time job to maintain the house and lifestyle 🫡

NoParamedic7831

Only one has any value, and it's BTC. The point is secure value exchange without the need for a trusted third party. It uses enormous amounts of computational energy to do so, and is by far the most powerful computer network in the world. The rest of it is trash. Especially ETH

blaziken8x

Buy consistently (BTC), and leave it alone. The more you touch it and fiddle with it, the bigger the chance of losing it. People with best returns on investment are those who are dead and people with second best returns those who forgot the password to their investing account.

Ok-Painting-9632

I’ve been in crypto since 2014 and people buying and selling bitcoin is as predictable as a clock. Has been this way now since 2012 and four cycles based around its halving cycle: halving in 2012 followed by bull market in 2013. Bear markets 2014 and 2015. Halving 2016 followed by bull market 2017. Bear market 2018 and 2019. Halving 2020 followed by bull market 2021. Bear market 2022 and 2023. Halving 2024 followed by bull market 2025. Bear market 2026 and probably 2027 will continue somewhat lackluster. Next halving is 2028. I’d be absolutely shocked if there wasn’t a bull market 2029. In fact, people started buying early 2020 to prepare for the halving that year and the subsequent bull market in 2021. The clock cycle is: halving every four years with the next year after the halving year being the bull market, however need to get out around the 4th quarter of that bull market year. Wait four years and repeat. Now the returns have been getting lower with each bull market. I’d expect maybe only 100% to 200% increase in price from whatever the price is in 2028 at its next halving to the peak of the bull market in 2029. Earlier cycles had massive returns: 2017 bull market for BTC was 44x from halving 2016 to December 2017 which was the peak of that cycle. In 2020 halving, price was $10k and peaked at $69k in 2021, so only 7x. 2024 halving price was $70k followed by 2025 peak at $125k, so not even 2x. The days of massive BTC gains are long gone for investors if you bought recently. Those of us who got in a decade ago have done ok ;)

FitCompetition1804

Same. Then il figure out what I’ll do then as I’m sure a lot of things will change by then. Unfortunately I just started stacking this year in February and only have 17 years until retirement. Luckily I have other retirement accounts building as well, but I’ve focused very hard on stacking BTC this year to take advantage of a favorable entry price. After next year, I don’t think we will see sub $100k BTC again.

Videoplushair

Question as I’m a real novice here. How is it decentralized when a handful of super rich guys own most of the BTC?

Pale_Lifeguard_8911

DCA over next couple of months 80% SOL and 20% BTC if you're very young and can afford the risk (that's exactly what I'm doing rn except I got more money to invest into crypto and it's only about 15% of my total NW)

Remarkable_Ad5011

When my BTC account value and mortgage balance intersect I’m cashing out and paying it off.

blade0r

For example, with GoMining platform you can use a Crypto Card connected to your wallet and the gobtc (pay with BTC) service. They are heavily pushing towards Bitcoin usage, if you’re not a simple HODLER.

Secure-Jelly-3802

The wallet to wallet transfer is easy. The important part is buying a sizable amount of BTC in India without violating any rules.

JohnNumber1

Holding Eth, BTC & XRP, believe all will improve in time, patience is the key. No rocket science required.

MonthlyWeekend_

I feel like this really isn’t real but if it is, you need multiple addresses for multiple coins. The most common payments will be in BTC obviously, but also transfer coins like XRP, LTC, SOL…. The list goes on. The best thing to do is to open an account with an exchange he like Binance or KuCoin, because it will come with an address for every coin and token. Your John will tell you the currency he has, you give him the address, he pays you. You can then on the exchange, exchange the coin for whatever you prefer and then transfer it out to a wallet or just leave it there on a finance program. If you want to transfer it out to fiat then that’s very specific to your country and you’ll need to give more detail.

hodler1992

Klar, helfe gerne weiter. Habe eine Cryptowallet für dich erstellt. Die kannst du nutzen. Schicke dir die Infos gleich per DM. Die kannst du deinen Kunden dann nennen und sie zahlen ihr BTC dann auf diese Adresse ein. Ist komplett safe und anonym.

Random_182f2565

The main thing for the is that The supply of BTC is finite, but they keep printing new money devaluing the existing one

K42st

You don’t need it until you do, there hasn’t been a point yet when needing BTC is not optional anymore, the underlying rules will make it the favoured option when all trust has gone in what you rely upon today!

CH_patron

These comments here are peak stupidity 🤣 you will make a 5x with most alts. Not with fking BTC and ETH. I remember in 2020 this was a serious crypto sub. Now its just clowns yapping

Michael-Ryder

That’s a pretty aggressive portfolio for a “new bull run” setup. Curious why you went this heavy into smaller caps and skipped BTC/ETH completely — is the plan to rotate profits later or hold these through the whole cycle?

LoveVibez

After being in it hard since 2018 - I'm this way too. I've experienced everything and come to the conclusion just get BTC and hold it. I had 75k worth of Polygon and 150k worth of Chainlink at the height of 2020/21. I had 3.5btc and 43eth - I was living on cloud 9 making over 1k a week from APY thinking if this keeps up I'll be a millionaire and be able to retire early. The Celsius/Blockfi (sam bankman-fried scandle) and the domino affect literally destroyed me. I was in about 15 solid projects and 15 random ones but I was never say into DOGE category or worse speculation/hype bubbles - I thought I was smart but chaos got me margin called on loans, the bankruptcies wiped me out and I'm still to this day getting some back. I'm 100% BTC and it sucks that I'm that salty but it's the reality I've come to adapt to for me personally.

DePraelen

It's not like I'm saying it's going to drive crypto to the moon or anything. I do agree that I put that badly though, the spikes I'm referring were probably far more about speculation on response to the news of Iran charging the toll in BTC than actual trading volume.

quintavious_danilo

Nice shitcoin collection. If you’re lucky, the upcoming BTC bullrun is going to lift them up a bit. You probably timed this not too badly. I would never fuck with shitcoins like that but it seems you’ll be on the lucky side for now. Don’t forget to sell! That’s not a portfolio you want to hold on to.

Roadrunner44143

I don’t believe in another alt coin bull run. Maybe BTC ETH and a few other will see a bull run again but that’s about it

CG-Saviour878879

You have separare BTC and ETH accounts?

HudsonDan517

This is the kind of Bitcoin conviction that completely ignores every other life metric😂 Owning 1 BTC is impressive, but ideally the goal is still Bitcoin + a house + a job + decent sleep.

HudsonDan517

With a portfolio this small, I would focus less on trying to maximize growth quickly and more on learning while keeping risk controlled. BTC and maybe one other assets are enough to start; spreading £80 across too many coins usually just makes it harder to track what you actually own and why.

nz_djlo

Thanks mate. Focused and planning on getting back up to 1BTC.

tenor_tymir

File a police report but that’s about all you can do. You will not get your BTC back though. Don’t talk to any scammers via private message. There is no way anyone can recover your stolen funds, they just want to steal even more from you. Quit being an easy target, get your act together and never do anything money related unfocused or intoxicated.

Hot-Efficiency7190

BTC, HYPE, maybe ZEC. Deploy everything in the next 4-6 weeks. This is the simpliest trade right now as this is the cycle bottom.

nz_djlo

You ever lost 1.5BTC because you were an idiot and just too fucking embarrassed to post about it? And no, I’m not using the same wallet to receive btc. That’s ridiculous to even suggest. The only reason I’m not more upset is because this BTC probably cost me NZ$20k from 2012/2013. So technically, it’s not a huge loss. But yeah, I’m upset, but still healthy. Have a great family and both my parents are still around.

Efficient_Range1156

Life changing amount of BTC right there.

Drizznarte

Bitcoin not crypto . There has never been a store of value before ! Fiat money will inflate. Most of what people think is crypto, like teather or other stable coins aren't. No blockchain , not crypto , no concencus mechanism , not crypto . Just look at BTC market cap over time

Digital_Brainfuck

Intention: Decentralized money system Outcome: MoneeeeeeyZ So all the same since BTC had its first spike

heisthemaincharacter

I already own a full BTC. MSTR was the leveraged trade. I bought it in the low 80s because when BTC rips, MSTR tends to rip harder. You really thought you had a gotcha here.

spacehodler

I have BTC as a pillar of my portfolio and invest in select memecoins that fulfil strict criteria for distribution, holder metrics etc. The btc component was sitting at 80% but has dropped to 50 ish after the last move up which I believe is the first move out of the bear market.

SpartanKing76

At the very beginning there was a plausible case for decentralising currency and having a system that wasn’t at the whim of central banks and fiscal policies. Unfortunately, that has not and will not ever work. Using crypto to pay for things is a mess, it’s all unsafe and the value of it is at the whim of whales - rather than fiscal policy. Therefore it’s much more dangerous and unstable. Generally speaking crypto became a speculative asset for people wanting to get rich quick or for scammers to pump and dump. The meteoric rise of BTC in the early days really did create generational wealth for some people but those were the lucky few who were in early and held on when BTC flew. Everyone else wants a piece of that action but that’s gone now and will never happen again. Sure your BTC might got from 60k to 100k but that’s not generational wealth territory - that’s just a gain. Now lots of people are cultish invested in the dream and refuse to believe the reality, or they’re bag holding, have sunken cost phobia or just have some crypto as a small part of their portfolio. At some point most of crypto will go the way of NFT.

SanHoloist

Honestly no but seeing the latest developments I do think BTC is gonna be pretty volatile. You can never really predict where it’s gonna end up so why not focus on the volatility and ride the wave instead, amiright? I’m not touching spot right now but still trading the volatility through a spot BTC CFD on Libertex. Just my personal suggestion but there are no overnight swap fees on the BTC CFD so holding through the chop doesn’t keep bleeding you on fees lol

PeaceSalt8172

All-in Solana oder sogar nen Memecoin. Wenn ichs wirklich sicher bräuchte dann BTC, aber dann würd ichs wsl sogar nicht in Krypto sondern in nen ETF stecken.

magicseadog

9000 in BTC 100 zec 100 link 100 sol 100 jul 100 pump 100 hype 100 lit 100 near 100 eth 100 fartcoin

Samsara_is_pain84k

Scam people that believe they're investing early in the next great thing. I would bet the vast majority of people have lost some and probably a lot of money in crypto. Especially in the last six years. The bs influencers have been claiming BTC will end the year at $100K since 2020. ETH at $5K.

ubermensch1001

BTC just needs to do a little over a 50% upwards movement from here to set a new all time high.

ubermensch1001

I'm more of a BTC maxi, man, don't need to be overcomplicating things by messing around with defi protocols.

dLoneRanger

Bitcoin hitting 1Million usd is a generational wealth for me someone living in Asia. Will sell BTC monthly according to my retirement needs

Maverick341985

Wo denkst du ist das nächste Hoch im BTC?

hodler1992

Why don't you credit against your BTC to use that liquidity to invest in other things?