BTC

utorogue

BTC acting like BTC

GoldmezAddams

1. I've been in since 2023 at around $30k. We went to a 70k ATH and then chopped around in the 50s/60s, going I think as low as 52k. That was the first time I had to double check my confidence in the asset. Then there is the current bigger dip from like 125 to 80 that I think is the biggest since I've been in. 2. Unbothered. I came in expecting more volatility than this. 3. Hodl. I know what I'm holding and why. I believe in the long term value propsition of BTC. Dips are an opportunity to increase my position. 4. If gold wasn't absolutely ripping at the same time making me wonder if I own enough. 5. Crypto holders, maybe. But as a BTC holder not interested in crypto, I think I understand my tine horizon, understand the risk profile, and am happy to have no downside protection beyond "I own other assets". 6. Pass.

BTBL1

Okay, you do you, but SPX is probably heading down this week anyway. Doesn’t matter if shorts stacked up in the last 45 minutes or not BTC is just gonna follow stocks like it's been for past 3 years.

VariatCA

From Sunday evening to Monday morning, BTC dropped ~7k with a 45:55 longtoshort ratio and over $6 Billion in additional short-pressure into low trading volume. In the last 30 hours, BTC has risen back up ~7k from the low with a *nearly even 50:50* longtoshort ratio. If you date back to the November 21st 80k bottom, there has been over $20 Billion more fresh short-volume than longs... while the price is up $11,000. Shorts are trying to fight the tide of buying-pressure with a broom. Bears have no idea how screwed they're about to be.

raccmike

BTC is gonna go down, we aren’t in bull anymore

Beaesse

Is... this satire? "Your heart broke" after it fell below.... a few bucks off of all-time highs? Were/are you genuinely thinking BTC (or anything) should only increase in a linear curve upwards, always?

Asleep_Foot_8869

When I asked the company that manages my pension if they had plans to allow any kind of BTC allocation, even 3%, they said that was out of the question. They actually wrote like 10 lines indirectly saying that it was a terrible idea. Morons, the downside was nothing compared to the upside. Anyway, I can see them changing that guideline within a couple years.

The-Jolly-Joker

Quantum computing will ruin BTC. It's only a matter time - whether it be 2 years, 5 years, or 30 years. It isn't a safe place to park currency.

Azatis-

Can't wait to see the day when Strategy will decide to cash out and crash the hell out of BTC, way worse than Satoshi himself ever would

Jaiiden

Yup, that one is a key level. The next one is a psychological point at 100K, and another key zone is around 106K. If BTC breaks through all of them, the ATH will be in the strike zone.

Competitive_Home_149

Uncle Saylor's got that 4D chess brain when it comes to BTC cycles but yeah ATH is pretty much guaranteed at this point lmao

Knight925

the big ETF companies have so so so much money in other assets, that they could always compensate lost BTC if they wanted to. Blackrock specifically. And they also diversify and use oversight. A single exchange can break much more easily.

evcm7

do yourself a favor & get your BTC out of RH. nightmare of a company

NoteRevolutionary225

Lmao I had a friend buy 4 btc at about 100 each to use silk road. Went to jail for it. Literally SOLD HIS BTC before jail to have money on his books 😂😂

VariatCA

Coming from the guy that said "I'm not even impressed until we hit 250k and alts aren't bleeding" back when BTC made a new 126k ATH. What a joke lol.

VariatCA

Total Mcap could get there, but it would probably require 120k+ BTC *and* a December alt rally that brought alts back up near January levels. I think we topped out around $4.4T in January around 107-108k.

Consistent_Panda5891

Institutional shorts covered pumping stock back... They did not loose. And shorting Tesla NOW is pretty silly. I shorted a little on 7x leverage on few days he was public against 🥭 and made pretty good % ammount. Nevertheless BTC has more downside in sight.

Ashhh1991

I didn’t check BTC yesterday and logged in today completely confused about all the posts. “Wait… wasn’t it already over $90k?”

FnAardvark

It's sort of a complicated but for share you buy, they own bitcoin 1:1 ratio. If the price drifts there are authorized participants (big banks) that can create or destroy shares of the ETF and profit off the arbitrage of buying or selling BTC. Vanguard settles up the day after, so they don't have to constantly be buying and selling, but basically, when you buy or sell the etf, coin gets bought or sold on the block chain pretty quickly.

Electrical_Eye_6503

most of these issuers don’t front-run their own products or warehouse huge speculative stacks. They handle creations and redemptions based on flows, and that usually settles out on a daily basis. If new shares need to be created, the authorized participants go out and source the spot BTC for that day’s inflow. If there’s a net outflow, they unwind it the same way. It’s a pretty mechanical process once you understand how ETF plumbing works. So it’s not BlackRock or Fidelity guessing and loading up too much or too little. They’re just matching supply to whatever demand showed up that day. The incentives are tight enough that they don’t really want directional exposure, they’d rather just take their fee and stay neutral.

SatisfactionFinal287

Don't the banks store the BTC they buy for their clients?

Realistic_Weight_842

How do you guys feel about selling a portion of your gold mutual fund that is up 70% ytd and has 80% of your ira balance in and buy up some FBTC? I guess the better question is. Do we think gold will do better or worse than BTC 2026?

GoldMouth-601

I’m a be honest with you I’d hold up just a little before I’d invest being new cuz honestly no telling if this is really the bottom or not. But if you just want to invest anyway you can’t go wrong with ETH or SOL or even XRP or BNB. Just don’t believe the hype and you’ll be good. And BTC of course is a solid option put with it being 90k you’d need a 180k BTC to double your money while a 6k Eth 260 Sol or a $4 XRP seems easier to accomplish

Then_Personality_429

There is a huge difference between putting your entire life savings in bitcoin and putting it into say an ETF. Sure there is risk with both but one has a much higher risk. Trying to equate the two or equate investing your life savings into bitcoin carrying the same risk as putting it in a HYSA is delusional nonsense. I’m a believer in BTC but it sounds like you’re either severely uneducated or drank way too much koolaid

HSuke

If they can buy MSTR, they can buy an ETF. > they can buy a BTC backed security or ETF like MSTR MSTR is not an ETF.

Brief-Technology-663

I was wondering the same thing. Crazy drop today when BTC rebounded. It makes no sense.

TheFudge

I will say BTC is back when it’s above 105k again. Before then it is just bouncing around.

Aromatic_Policy_6705

Then imagine putting $100 in BTC, then getting locked up for hacking for 15 years and you get out to being a $2.8 billionaire. It could've happened, but probably not.

LividChocolate4786

Don't see the problem. Everyone always has the option to self custody but no one should be forced to. The ETFs and MSTR allow way more people to get exposure to BTC.

malte_brigge

As a wholecoiner, you find yourself getting pissed off at the whales with 100x or 1000x or 10,000x as much BTC as you who are dumping relentlessly and ensuring that it will be a long time yet before a single bitcoin is able to provide financial independence for a hodler.

RANEDJ

I Live In Florida and it Snows All The Time $BTC $GBTC #21MClub

repomies69

Ppl can always move their funds to self-custody by selling the securities and buying real BTC instead. Not great for taxes but that is the price for the convenience of buying a security instead of the real BTC.

Onsyde

I have periods of being laid off, unpaid, and uninsured. Yes, I’ve had to use some BTC here and there to survive, but having a “plan b” (no pun intended) does remove a lot of stress in my life. I know that if things went absolutely terrible, I could pay off all my debt and live a much easier life. If not, I can probably retire earlier. So it’s made my stressful life probably less stressful than it could be.

DryMyBottom

it would be nice to see BTC back at $95k tomorrow for breakfast

RealPrinceZuko

It's absolute garbage. If crypto really takes off on a global scale (beyond BTC), what country would want to use a US based/centralized block chain. The whole point of crypto ecosystems is decentralization to get AWAY from institutions and centralized entities. You have the opposite of both with XRP lol

yurk23

Waiting for lower high (100-110 area) on BTC before setting up a swing short

PM_ME_YOUR___ISSUES

This cycle has been so terrifying tbh. The slow pace at which alts recover makes me scared to think what the impact will be if BTC prepares another pull back.

Any_Context1

Wake me up when Merrill allows accountholders to own actual BTC, not a BTC ETF

BaadMike

If you use today's numbers to make this determination, there are a few "givens" you'll have to accept. First, in 2025 the global money supply is about $142 trillion (in USD). Bitcoin's market cap changes daily, but let's just say it is $1.83 trillion. This would make BTC's price $87,142. If everything remained the same, and the world hits the USA's target of 2% inflation per year, then in 2525, the world's money supply would be $2.833 quintillion ($2,833,832,817,234,380,000.00). If Bitcoin's market cap were the same percentage in 2525 as it is in 2025, the BTC's market cap would be $36.5 quadrillion, making each Bitcoin worth $1.739 billion (in 2525). Now if Bitcoin becomes to world's reserve currency and replaces all of the world's currencies, and inflation stays at 2%, Bitcoin's price could be $135 billion per coin, which is $2.8 quintillion / 21 million. However, if BTC does become to world's reserve currency, you can't "inflate" it so deflation may occur, which means the price of Bitcoin could remain fairly constant and prices across the board could decline. But in 500 years, who knows if humans will even roam the Earth anymore.

Letsmovethemarket

XRP is a dog that will not hunt. Rainbows and Unicorns! Buy BTC and ETH!

Aromatic-Contact610

I am halfway to my goal of 10 BTC, split up between a few offline / cold wallets 🫡

nicholaux

Buy BTC and you’re good.

VariatCA

I don't think "Retail" in the sense of regular people like us even matters one iota to the markets anymore. They don't care if a bunch of broke traders believe in 4-year-cycle Astrology. They care about macro-economic momentum and forward-thinking guidance. The only Retail shaping the market that we can discern a direct impact from are ETF's, and business is still booming. I don't mean to say that this is a prediction for an *Altcoin* rally in any way though. I think 2021 was a special kind of speculative fluke, and the markets matured into focusing on the assets that matter and are having real-world application (BTC, ETH, more recently SOL, et cetera).

TheCatOfWallSt

I have 3 BTC worth of IBIT I bought at $117k, all I’m feeling is quite broke at the moment but I know it’ll come back lol

Own-Knowledge2635

BTC can very well go up till 100k before it recorrects to <75k. Which I believe it still will likely do. You’re excited over a little 6% - 10% increase? You have little to know knowledge kid

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inDilema

The bottom bro, BTC ran from 16 to 125. Are we anticipating a never ending bull run?

moonRekt

I’m too old for the shitcoin casino, and if you’re buying IBIT/ETHE etc it’s still not your keys, so hate while you may but I’ve been pretty much going all in on Coinbase stock as I dump my shitcoins and only cold store BTC/ETHE etc

Virtual-Metal9290

80% drop. I felt worried the first time that BTC might fail, but after the first time I felt that BTC was too big to fail so I wasn't worried at all. I get tempted during the drops to increase my DCA, but then I remind myself that timing the market is a fools game, so I just leave it alone. No I don't care to buy an insurance product. I'm patient enough to not need insurance.

VariatCA

I think there have been issues weighing heavily on Bitcoin in the last two months, with the biggest concerns being the extreme short-pressure on MSTR (and their underlying asset, BTC of course), the shakiness in confidence for the Fed's next rate cut, and the Bank of Japan's potential for a rate hike. The direction the market goes depends on the resolution of these issues. Interest rates affect speculative liquidity (money flowing back in to Crypto), and MSTR's concerns of possibly being removed from the Nasdaq won't be resolved until potentially mid January. If these all align favorably, I'd imagine that not only will equities rise, but the downward pressure on Crypto will alleviate in a *huge* way. Not even mentioning big wild card events like the Supreme Court ruling tariffs illegal and refunding a trillion dollars back to corporations.

Kind-Hope4017

Interested to see whether BTC will end the year positive or negative. We have to close above $93,462.86 to be positive on the year. Will be interesting!

_DigiTap

ETFs mostly point to BTC and ETH as the safest long-term survivors.. that’s where institutions put real money. If you’re thinking 5+ years out, building around those two is the lowest-stress move

Hot_Midnight3640

Be careful of the taxes on this BTC income.... They will hunt it down. Everything is good to draw the money!

Far_Side

FOMO is right. But I also need to diversify badly. My equity/fixed income portfolio are well diversified, but for crypto I’m 99.5% BTC

_Jimmy_Rustler

BTC would be $1.34 million after 28 days

NapalmNorm

Fuckers made me open a Roth elsewhere because they wouldn't let me add BTC etfs last year.

NashDaypring1987

Technical Analysis.... that's what trader's call it. Basically, it says even in bear markets, you'll get the occasional big bumps up. In this case, BTC back to $103K (200 day moving average of price) is possible. If you are convinced that we are in a bear market, then you would sell near $103K. I just trade part of my BTC position. Most of it is just sitting in a cold wallet.... collecting dust :)

Aromatic-Contact610

On Robinhood, it’s high but meh, BTC price fluxes so much anyway.

Objective_Ad5914

All the big players with shorts must be sweeting now is BTC is $91,000 and getting closer. Getting interesting to watch.

BacchusAndHamsa

lolz my NVDA up 576% in 2.5 years BTC not as good....

andrei-daa

There are many which work given enough time 5-10 years lets say to be safe. Depending on if you put an initial larger amount ( so maybe optional ) during a bad like potentially now if it goes into bear or if you put it in bear time or around there which will give you more value. You should also know that if you do choose to delegate some money into altcoins, some will die or not perform. What works if you have patience: DCA constantly, maybe even try to hold on for around a year after btc peak given we are around this time ( either octomber or maybe a lower chance this month - its a lower chance ) - the first 6-12 months of profits/losses are noise, so just keep stacking - this takes discipline and and funds that you dont need in short term You could try to always buy in the lower prices - spolier you wont. - this means being more active, becoming a chore or draining if you do check prices too much - i would say that if you look back, every push upside will at one point go back down - that is where your price is. Just make some good decision which is easier said than done. - so this is potentially worse or better -> depending on you, your luck, your knowledge, your ability to keep cash without spending or investing it The most important is the exit strategy: its always hard, look at this year. And before this, look at last bull, 66 -> 69 peak is underwhelming. This is why it is important to give it time, give it 5-10 years depending on your first entry, keep adding and sell on profit is the best way. You dont need the bottom, you dont need the peak. Do not think about millions or very fast profits. You invest to better your life, just look at btc from bottom to peak is like 10x. I am not saying you need this 10x. But just by selling at the right time and having some btc stacked at the right time could give you x3-4, potentially more. If you do choose a middleground, stay in BTC mostly and choose only top of the class altcoins. I would say 80-20 or even 90-10 BTC/Alts ratio. Altcoins rallied after BTC ( not this year yet or at all ), but there are a few good example who had some profits - not sure if I can mention here so I will not. You could also try to sell a portion of your btc - 20-40% or however you feel like when a small push upside takes place. Even after bear, the btc takes time to get back. Just look at last cycle 15k to 40-50k not sure. Then up to 70s and so on, there are some few chances where you could profit from this by selling and buying lower, while also having some left in case it goes up. The professionals, as far as I know ( not that much ) protect their btc in rough times when you dont know if it goes up or down by having BTC on spot and also shorting it. It goes up, you have profit, it goes down, you have some profit from shorting. Either way you lose some and gain some. I would say, dont do this - ever

RealPrinceZuko

Congrats, this is all you need. Don't buy into the "next step <insert number here>" crowd. If fiat collapses and BTC does retain its value through it, you will be just fine compared to the large majority of people.

Flipmode45

I’d like to get mildly excited but the volume compared to yesterdays selling is literally half on BTC and ETH. There’s 6 hours left on the daily so it might pick up, but right now looking like a bull trap.

OhhhhBillly

It could be many things, my living expenses paid for the rest of my life as I slowly convert to USD against its YOY compounding growth, say 7% per year after 2036 based on a FIRE model like https://bitcoincompounding.com/ It could be used for a medical emergency, medical expenses have been one of its best use cases since the beginning, Hal Finney cashed a-lot of his bitcoin out to pay medical bills before he died. It can be used as collateral on loans to create more wealth depending on what you do with the loan. A loan to buy a car will just depreciate your value but a loan on a small property that you rent out or airbnb could potentially turn into the loan/property being paid off by tenants and then you have another asset to borrow against, all while still holding your bitcoin. Using bitcoin as collateral is one of the best use cases because it’s not a sale, which is not a taxable event. Anything regarding a sale for USD is taxable which is what most bitcoiners want to avoid unless absolutely necessary. I have seen guys sell to pay off their mortgage, while I respect it, I dont see much logic in that as bitcoin growth has outpaced housing. What you get in place of cashing out bitcoin to pay the house off is a huge taxable event, and then you get to keep all the mortgage payments (cash) after that. So paying off debt is really a trade of a long term compounding investment for cash, not just the cash you get from the trade, but the cash you keep from your employment income that you dont have to use paying off an interest bearing loan for the next 20-30 years. How it really changes your life is that you may have a shit job, have no cash, you may be broke just paying the bills but there is always future growth happening and you always have options to start a business, your never truly broke when you hold 1 BTC, you just have to be smart with it. You could sell a portion of it at one of the local peaks and buy a semi truck, get your CDL and start hauling, get your own contracts, haul your ass off and start pulling 350k a year, and then buy more bitcoin back than you ever had before, plus have surplus cash. These are just a few of my views and opinions on what 1 BTC can do to change your life, but if you just sit on it forever the growth will be for future generations, not for you and I encourage people to use it while their here, saving some for future generations is great, I support this, but holding it forever and never using any of it to build anything for you is just like not having any at all.

KeleneJohnson14

Choosing $BTC all day everyday. Also choosing $BENE $JEANS & $FEARz #GalaPump

Invest_and_ballout

Vanguard open up their platforms to crypto. BTC should be at $250k this time next year.

Thelamadalai190

The irony is Vanguard is one of the biggest owners of shares in MSTR for many years now, a BTC holding company.

urbangamermod

Try not to focus on numbers and work on managing your risk. No point in reaching 1 bitcoin and using all your capital to the point where your broke and have to prematurely sell your BTC in a brutal bear market. I’m trying to get to 2 BTC but I lost my job so I can’t buy more atm and I’m prioritizing in managing my risk. I would have loved Bitcoin to have sky rocketed this year as everyone anticipated but that didn’t happen. Luckily, I didn’t FOMO into spending all my capital on BTC. I’m not aiming to get 2 BTC guaranteed. If I’m employed, have cash flow coming, then I would continue DCAing. But I’m also content in not reaching to 2 either. You just never feel like you have enough at the end of the day. So enjoy your gains when you can and not stress over it.

andrei-daa

Well for me, I am not. I even got some diry altcoins, disgusting. For btc purist I will call them higher highs ( bull ) and higher lows ( bear ), I do want to profit both. As for the euphoric, its true. Every cycle is different, the Q4 high can still happen and go away quick. Signs show that this is the lower chance, either way the Q4 thing will happen until it wont. Given that if it becomes predictable people will act different means that this could be different, or not. If I am not wrong, this is the first time the peak Q4 for BTC after the halving year is taking place in a rough economy

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Alexbobica

It is not gambling, but every investment implies risks, and you have to be able to take risks. If you're new to this, you should stick to BTC tbh. I mean, blue chips are worth focusing on. However, you can go through subreddits, X and TG channels to gather knowlage and exploring projects could be helpful. My first investments, when it comes to low caps, were UTK, AIOZ, and DIA, still have some of them. It was a good decision, but DYOR is crucial.

JeremyLinForever

If BTC crashed, it means there’s a fiat currency out there that’s doing everything right and is really strong, and their preferred insurances like STRC that is intended to be like a money market will lower their percentage yields to give you monthly dividends in that said strong fiat currency. Think of it like the currency is tied to Bitcoin, not Bitcoin tied to the currency.

Objective_Digit

> If you're a full BTC purist, then no such thing as bear or bull markets, just buy and hold, rain or shine :) It's been called a 15 year bull market. Seriously though. We haven't had a euphoric stage this cycle yet, so we might not be in a bear market.

Paebin

Nice move. Buy second-hand RAM, sell it as new, and use the profit to buy more BTC at low price. You’re the GOAT!

urbangamermod

On just one bitcoin? I don’t think I would have the guts…it’s not that I don’t believe in bitcoin but life is waaaay to unpredictable and you might need more money then what Bitcoin can provide currently. Maybe with 10 BTC, but 1 is a bit risky to me.

oki_sauce

Nah just buy a prebuilt, take the ram, sell the rest for BTC

TheDirtyOnion

Any instrument that requires fixed near term payments in fiat causes the same issue for the company, it doesn't matter if it preferred equity or debt (the company uses both).  Without alternative cash flow streams the company will have to sell BTC to finance those obligations at some point.  If BTC does not increase in value in a relatively short timeframe that will result in big losses.  

Ashhh1991

I want you to understand how significant this is. Last decade, people made posts like this about 1 BTC. We felt like it was a great accomplishment but wanted to be like the 10 BTC owners. Today, people post about accumulating 0.1 BTC and are working tirelessly to be whole coiner. Next decade, people will make posts about accumulating 0.01 BTC and will be working tirelessly to be where you are right now.

Responsible_Cod_1453

BTC, if you're into gambling buy shiba.

dubski04021

Your money is losing value everyday.. BTC (zoom out) isn’t. You can’t put enough into BTC in my opinion. I used to be all in on ETH, but I’ve learned a lot over the last 6-7 years.

sker13559

Look up and digest a graph of Satoshis per share of MSTR and get back to me. Long term share holders have more (much more) BTC in value today than we did 1 year ago. Its a fact. MSTR is a leveraged BTC play. Every share holder has received more BTC over time for the initial investment. An ETF doesn't do that. For the record I own BTC, MSTR, and FBTC.

Beneficial-Ad-9986

BTC and ETH are the most logical pair in the core-layer model.

sker13559

You dont know that's the point. I never said companies. I said institutions. Pension funds for example own lots of MSTR. They have no mechanism to hold BTC. In many countries it would be against the law for the Pension Fund to buy BTC. However, they can buy a BTC backed security or ETF like MSTR or FBTC. Find out for yourself. The measure of MSTR that matters is satoshis per share. If every share holder is only receiving more BTC over time (we are) it cant be a ponzi. FUD is working to shake out people who don't understand MSTR and aren't fully bought into BTC.

shimanospd

Sure, registered retirement funds.. you can't hold BTC where I live but why not hold the bitcoin ETF?

Happy_Discussion_536

Because a non trivial portion of the population and more importantly tutes, already have an allocation to BTC. Rest of crypto is less certain. Due to the inelastic demand for financial assets, especially in inflationary environments, eventually BTC will find its footing and resume climbing. Absent a genuine black swan or large event draining liquidity like November (TGA refill, shutdown, last bit of QT).

Happy_Discussion_536

Because a non trivial portion of the population and more importantly tutes, already have an allocation to BTC. Rest of crypto is less certain. Due to the inelastic demand for financial assets, especially in inflationary environments, eventually BTC will find its footing and resume climbing. Absent a genuine black swan or large event draining liquidity like November (TGA refill, shutdown, last bit of QT).

Viking_13v

I've also wondered what it's like being part of the 21 BTC club.

VariatCA

It did follow, BTC was at 91.2k when the Nasdaq started trickling down.

unclebob_rises

If Bitcoin really hits around $96K, it could trigger a lot of liquidations and wild price swings. Makes you realize how volatile leveraged crypto positions can be and why diversification matters. Lately I’ve been looking at ways to get exposure to real world assets alongside crypto. Platforms like [Fractionvest.io](http://Fractionvest.io) let you own fractions of things like real estate or energy projects through blockchain tokens. It’s not about chasing BTC pumps, but it feels like a more stable way to be in both worlds.

Happy_Discussion_536

Sure except why would we have a bear market when tons of liquidity is going to be flooding into the market soon. In fact relatively speaking we're already going to get some in this month from increased Fed asset purchases and rate cut. BTC at this point has like a .8 beta with the Qs.

Happy_Discussion_536

History is BTC being the best performing asset in existence.

brantilagda

haha, if BTC hits a mil, I’m retiring to a yacht. fingers crossed!

Jump_in_Jack

Weekly and daily BTC.D charts are ready to fall through the floor.. You know what that means....

Narf234

I think its worth mentioning that BTC is also about responsibility. Proper storage is essential and some people aren’t ready for that. It might sound silly to someone well versed in the asset class but I know plenty of people who lose passwords on the regular.

LargeSnorlax

What happened to your BTC sneeze, alts bleed? Chatgpt subscription run out?

Zigxy

BTC was trading under $60k quite a bit AFTER the halving

TexasBoyz-713

BTC up 7% in the last 24 hours. Sure, it dumped just as much the day before, but cool to see it can still rip upwards

Traditional-Fan-9315

I'll explain what people are saying about theb4 year cycle: We don't really have confirmation that it's a bear market. Still time left and BTC doesn't follow a 4 year cycle, it follows the liquidity cycle. Which hasn't really started year..

nachtramm

I hope in the meantime you study Bitcoin more, maybe you will realise that everything before going into BTC was gambling...

Efficient-Opinion280

Hey thank you for your comment You can always roll the options and never get assigned on your shares I do it ever since IBIT was launched and even when BTC price drops im still in the green If you have further questions please let me know