BTC

DryTechnology5224

When I bought it at the time, sure maybe a bit. But now BTC allows me to buy whatever I desire. Without my stash I wouldn't be able to do and buy half the stuff I do

Arijan101

You can't even do math. To reach the price of $250k BTC would need a market cap of $5T. That's exactly 4x from the current market cap of $1.25T. Also, please stop posting your posts are getting dumber with each passing day.

derbyfan1

Thats why Im only in BTC

Jazzlike-Check9040

BTC is going to zero

DistributionOk2111

Only BTC

Marmaluke420

When walls come tumbling down ... Saylor gonna be forced to sell at some point... Just so he can DCA.... That my friend is when the bottom is in. Saylor is BTC. Then there is the billions the us govt owns because they confiscated it from criminals... They can dump the market at any moment ...and they will. Especially with daddy trump

dwg808

You don't have to post it. You can just buy it and then watch BTC go down in August, and then you'll sell in September, and then it starts going up in October that's when you comeback to complain that every time you buy it goes down and then when you sell it goes up.

Crucco

The winds of BTC are changing. Nice

Big-Finding2976

The Internet needs an infinitely scalable decentralised blockchain that can handle 1M+ TPS, with nodes running on cheap consumer hardware with 4 cores and 16GB RAM. It doesn't need BTC.

Apprehensive_Sea7807

Likely just BTC even ETH will die probably soon.

dwg808

I've never seen so many micro BTC inflows before, like less than $1, but there are hundreds of them, and why with the fees being maybe more than the actual amount. He has an account at Cryptonit.net.

retiamus

Some say the BTC Spot ETFs, which were not there the last 4y cycle, dampen the overall downside. Seems logical and I think we are not going down much further.

Mugiwara-YNWA

I'm in a similar situation this year. When BTC is in a bear market, I tend to save money. I often hesitate to buy something. But just yesterday I bought a ticket to "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring in Concert" (a film with a symphony orchestra). The event doesn't take place until April next year, but tickets are selling out quickly and I've been wanting to experience this for a long time. (I also want to build a new PC, but prices have gone up a lot, I'll wait....)

Shaguar_Driver

Pretty much this. Everything else is trying to imitate it and come up with utility. The utility is all bullshit and it's how you brainwash morons into thinking a coin is valuable. Having zero utility but beiythe original and free is what will keep BTC around.

tenor_tymir

Yes, I’m haunted by that myself as well. I’m refraining from buying stuff and mostly buy BTC instead, especially when in a bear market like right now. I tell myself I’ll be more generous to myself once I become financially independent, but guess what - I don’t believe this to come true, ever. So i became creative and tricked myself into spending more for myself by getting one of these fancy crypto debit cards that gives me 2% cashback on every purchase, paid out in BTC. Now whenever I make a purchase, I’ll pick up some sats as well. Now I find myself in the position of buying stuff I don’t need just to get the BTC, lol, I’m just joking 🙃 , but honestly spending has become easier for me though.

Chdanos

No, forget about other things and just buy BTC. Don’t let your life distract you.

Easily_Bann4

It’s to late for that. BTC is already down 50%. Everyone who followed the cycle sold/shorted in Oct/Nov and are winning. Even if $58k turns out to be the bottom, -50% is buying territory already so nothing to lose, and even those who wait till Oct, it’s very unlikely BTCs going to be over $100k this year, and everything under $100k BTC is deals 🤷🏾‍♂️

Peepzer

Hey lad, I wasn't giving my opinion on Strategy (but I will below haha)😁 Just so fed up with people on **both** sides of the argument flinging shit without substance/proof. WSJ isn't exactly proof btw - citing a news outlet to be your source rather than doing the research yourself is a cop-out I'm afraid. I'd say the same to a MSTR fanatic that blindly defends Strategy too. So my opinion then: I do lean more on the side that Strategy will be fine because they now have 17.4 months of cash for dividend coverage. BTC could literally sit here for the next year and a half and Strategy are chilling. I think them paying off that other convertible debt recently was not a good move but it's not "death"-inducing, and is entirely separate to their pref obligations. Plus, it's a very human thing to want to find a scapegoat for anything bad in life, and it happens every crypto cycle. This cycle's blame game is being sent in Strategy's direction but it's unfounded. Only those who *haven't* read Strategy's balance sheet and *haven't* been present in their shareholder meetings are saying that Strategy will die, because once one reads the numbers the "Strategy will die" mantra becomes an argument with math itself. I will now step off my soapbox.😉

Saintgein

Typical? This cycle the substantial gains were made in the year before the halving, where BTC went up almost 5x from the bottom. After the halving it barely got to a 2x. Big money stepped in, stuff changed.

Fun_Airline_911

I left the second trump touches BTC, everything he touches goes to shit

TheresNoSecondBest

>What is "rugged"? That's when you realize you've been lied to. If your node runs bip110 and stops agreeing on 99,5% of the mined blocks being valid (these are the current numbers), than you're in the 0.5% chain split. One day later, your chain is about 143 blocks shorter than the main chain. One week later the difference is 1,000 blocks. Orphan. To NOT become an orphan, somebody will come up with an idea to hard fork out of Bitcoin. Creating a new shitcoin like bcash. Every BTC holder gets the same amount of that shitcoin. People will try to get rid of one to support (buy) the other coin. If you're in the wrong camp, you might have regrets. Bcash, Bitcoin gold, BSV and other fork holders lost more than 90% of money. Don't get caught in that. Run the bip110 node if you wish, just be careful going all in on the new fork. The people telling you to, will still hold BTC because they know how bad this might end up.

gdubluu

I hope it doesn’t tank. It’s not like it can’t happen. I believe in BTC long term being something that’s helps me rather than hinders and I believe it has true support by people who truly support it regardless of mainstream opinions and so on. I think and hope that enough people believe in it to the point it can’t fail because of its fundamentals. Good luck on getting that coin.

BigWhatoh

They'll all still be here, surely. I mean imagine a world without 10 million ways to send someone a bit of unstable currency. Just BTC maybe? The rest will be more defunkt than now. Proof case of viable tech at best. If governments wanted you to 'own' money then fiat wouldn't still be owned by the printers. Only BTC had half a chance at being an alternative to that. Frequent BTC forks and companies like MSTR trying to own 5% of it only destroys the premise

Educational_Cable405

Charting was the easy part of that tool. The expensive bit was holding live order book state across a dozen exchange feeds at once, since each one streams diffs and you rebuild the book locally, and if you drop a single message you have to resnapshot the whole thing. Running that for BTC across Binance, Coinbase, Kraken and Bitstamp 24/7 costs real server money, so any free clone either paywalls itself in month two or just goes stale and dies.

Little-Customer-8760

I purchased 50k in a lot of different crypto assets in 2021. Some good, some bad. I sold everything earlier this year and made a profit of 35k. If I was smarter I could have walked away with profits of 80k. But I’m grateful that I walked with profits and not losses. If I could do it all over again I would have taken that 50k and just dumped it into an index fund. Doing that would have allowed me to not stress, constantly looking at charts. Crypto is stressful and completely unpredictable. And unfortunately I just didn’t get in early enough to get crazy 10x pumps on my coins. Those days are likely behind us for good IMO. Some people will disagree. I will also say, if you’re dead set into getting into crypto, just stick with BTC. Have a game plan and stick to it no matter what. It’s incredibly easy to say you just want to double your money and get out, but you will 100% get greedy and wait to see if it will 3x, 4x, 5x. And the reality is that by waiting to see what happens, you’ll likely start losing profits. Getting into crypto is an interesting study into the human psychology of risk/reward, and will make otherwise smart people make incredibly risky and dumb decisions. Again, my advice is to stay away and put money into long term stocks. This is just the opinion of someone that invested and payed attention to the chats every day for 5 years. It wasn’t really worth it.

Arbeke

In Italia tassazione è completamente diversa, se compri BTC 33% sulla plusvalenza, se compri IBIT 26%

PhoenixJ3

BTC: store of value ETH: smart contracts XMR: p2p digital cash. Maybe a few other longshots like LINK BCH DOGE for reasons I'm sure you can guess after minimal research.

UpstairsAide3058

How do you measure what you have? For example I easily know that I have .1 or .2 or 1 BTC in my self custody. When you buy an ETF, how do you know how much BTC that represent ?

Normal_Zebra136

With BTC having a market cap of $1.3T versus global equities at $160T, bonds at another $150t, and real estate at some $400t, owning SOME BTC may make sense, but is it less than half of a percent of your asset allocation if you look at the total market of investment opportunities.

Important-Might-7080

What ever happened to those states proposing no taxes on BTC sales? I remember Texas made it official then I guess backed out of the whole thing.

ScooterPapi

“S&P always \[out\]performs btc consistently for most years” Bitcoin vs S&P 500 — Annual Returns Year Bitcoin S&P 500 2014 -30.0% +13.7% 2015 +34.5% +1.4% 2016 +123.8% +12.0% 2017 +1368.9% +21.8% 2018 -73.6% -4.4% 2019 +92.2% +31.5% 2020 +303.2% +18.4% 2021 +59.7% +28.7% 2022 -64.3% -18.1% 2023 +155.4% +26.3% 2024 +121.1% +25.0% 2025 -6.3% +17.9% **S&P beat BTC in 4 of 12 years:** 2014, 2018, 2022, 2025 ???????

Normal_Zebra136

You may not view it that way, but that is how financial markets value assets. The present value of its future income are discounted back to its current value. BTC is currently perceived by all the financial wisdom of the planet (that are all pursuing profit) as having the same economic value as 2x of Costco, or a similar value to the major payment processors. Its actually quite a high value if you think about it.

Prior_Parsley3960

**Headline:** K Wave has abandoned its Bitcoin treasury strategy, sold all of its BTC, and is pivoting toward AI infrastructure while seeking to raise up to **$250 million**. **Why it matters:** It's another example of a company reversing course after the corporate Bitcoin treasury boom faded, highlighting the risks of tying a business to crypto speculation. * **Bitcoin strategy is over:** K Wave sold its remaining Bitcoin in April and May after holding just **88 BTC**, abandoning a previous goal of accumulating **10,000 BTC**. * **Pivot to AI:** The company plans to redirect capital toward **AI data centers and GPU infrastructure**, reduce debt by selling its entertainment business, and rename itself **Talivar Technologies**. * **Financial challenges:** The proposed **$250 million** shelf offering is far larger than the company's current market value, and Nasdaq has warned K Wave twice this year over minimum listing requirements. * **Part of a broader trend:** Several companies that embraced Bitcoin treasury strategies have since retreated as crypto prices and share prices fell. Some, particularly former Bitcoin miners, have shifted toward AI infrastructure in search of more stable revenue. * **No guarantee of success:** While some firms have benefited from AI pivots, AI infrastructure is highly capital-intensive and competitive, leaving K Wave with significant execution and financing risks.

kmsmyself12

BTC will have another massive bullrun ahead and after the halvening. This is literally when you bu ly btc. October is the floor lol, this has happened in a 4 year cycle every year like clockwork and you still get moronic ass posts like this. It’s not a store of value to your average joe. It’s something you trade. If you’re close to retirement at best it’s a hedge against inflation with low allocation. Anyone who says otherwise is a crypto bro or blowing smoke and I don’t care.

Normal_Zebra136

Agree completely. The fee will be paid whether the price goes up or down. Blackrock itself is BTC agnostic.

Normal_Zebra136

That the 8 billion people on the planet have chosen to value BTC’s future value creation as 3x of that of Costco’s value proposition should give you an idea of just how fringe the belief in the value of the token is. Diner’s club was also early in its innovation of credit cards, and is not irrelevant. Visa is now worth half of BTC ($600b), Amex $240b, and Master card another $540b. So the market currently values BTC about the same amount of the current american based credit card processors. You may be right that the value of BTC is too low, but the market currently does not agree with you.

F1tBro

Nah, BTC is so passe

Maxim___g

You think BTC will go down after all?

N3333K0

Why are you still thinking of BTC in terms of dollars?

xBrodoFraggins

I agree, and I do believe good came from it. Being able to purchase FBTC in my IRA for example, but I hate the fact big hedge funds can create paper BTC and fuck with one of the things that makes BTC awesome.

Socketz11

What market are you looking at that has BTC "back up?" 5% gain in a week is irrelevant. If it was any lower Doge would be standing on its throat.

Nick700

Holding already gets you good returns and trying to sell and rebuy to get more BTC has a risk of you ending up with less BTC instead if you time it wrong

Andre_ev

ETH, in some way BTC, others not 100% Even if robots take all power than ETH would continue to exist, perhaps it would be more sustainable than humans 😏, BTC is more manipulative and human relative

rong12-

定期囤点BTC是一种明智的选择

shogun4fun

If every man woman and child owned btc coin today they would each have 0.002416 BTC from total mined supply. You are way ahead.

Squeiner

*sigh..* so much nonsense in such a short post, where to even start... I guess I'll just start with the obvious; no you didn't. Next, when you say "since BTC has no intrinsic value, what reason could there be to convince me that money is not the answer and there is a bigger picture in play" you didnt actually say anything. This sentence doesn't actually mean anything. Its a badly formulated mishmash of words that has no meaning whatsoever. You clearly have something you want to say here, but you didn't actually manage to say it. The second part doesn’t clearly follow from the first. It reads like it should be a separate thought. There's no logical bridge between the two, and its far from clear what exactly you are asking in the second part like... “convince me that money is not the answer” is just vague like.. the answer to what?  who is convincing you? What do you mean with "a bigger picture in play"? In play where? Like in terms of just money?  Are you talking about like.. God? Or life in general? Are we still talking about just money and value here? What does any of this mean? No clue... Lastly, and most importantly by far, "Intrinsic value" is a phrase who's only function is to reveal the fundamental ignorance of the person that says it. There is no such thing. Value is subjective. It does not reside in the object being valued, it exists only in the mind of the person doing the valuation. Since your post contains so much nonsense (and in so few words! amazing...), it's safe to assume that this "system" you've "developed" is almost certainly nonsense as well. Unless of course, I mean.. do you plan to share this system with us? Or are we supposed to just take your word for it? Cause if you dont share it or provide some kind of evidence, I'm kind of forced to conclude that this post boils down to "I don't know the first thing about economics, grammar, syntax, or logic, but I do want to let you all know that I'm smarter than all of you and will be filthy rich soon (trust me bro)"?

Vaultleap

I'd push back on the idea that utility is a "minority" use case. stablecoins alone settled over $12 trillion in 2025, and most of that wasn't speculation, it was cross-border payments, remittances, and payroll for remote workers. that's real commerce flowing through crypto rails even if nobody's tweeting about it. the speculation-to-AI rotation is real but it doesn't mean the infrastructure dies. it means the people building actual products on crypto rails matter more now than the pump-chasers. think about it this way: email didn't die when the dot-com bubble popped. the garbage projects died and the useful ones survived. the part of crypto that's genuinely useful right now is the payments layer. being able to hold stablecoins and spend them anywhere via a Visa debit card with $0 card fees and 0% international markups, that's a product that works regardless of whether BTC goes to 200k or 20k. VaultLeap is doing exactly this and the fact that it's self-custodial means your funds aren't exposed to counterparty risk from some exchange collapsing. the real question isn't whether "crypto recovers" as a speculative asset. it's whether the infrastructure becomes invisible and useful. what do you think would change your mind on the utility argument?

devCheckingIn

So the scuttlebutt is that Saylor sold 491 BTC on July 1. Does anybody care?

devCheckingIn

ETH is up more than BTC on the daily?

substandard2

Solana, BTC and very likely XRP.

Large-College-4772

LOL! Yeah, right. Because of why? Enron was “too big to fail”. They went to zero and that was a huge energy company. BTC has no assets and no intrinsic value. Without someone who will buy, the price will continue marching to zero.

No-Clerk-2764

BTC just chilling at resistance while alts bleeding out, classic summer doldrums i guess. every time i think about picking up some ETH the chart looks like a ski slope and i close the app at least the daily thread is quiet today, that usually means we are near a bottom or something right? or maybe everyone is just at bbq for the holiday

Separate_Bid_2364

You are only accounting for if the crash were to happen tomorrow. One year of dividends sounds like a lot and for a more stable situation it is but more than likely the way for them to continue funding them in a palatable manner is if BTC stabilizes. You are probably right in that I am probably being overly pessimistic but to me there isn’t much of a difference between going under and becoming insignificant for the rest of its existence.

LionRivr

Real answer: 1. Maintain stable income. 2. Pay your monthly bills. 3. Contribute to retirement accounts for stock market exposure and for tax advantages. 4. Service all your debts. Never hold credit card debt. 5. Build a 6 months cash emergency fund. 6. Eat well. Whole, nutritious foods. Proteins and fats. Steak, eggs, salmon, avocado, fruits & veggies. 7. Stay hydrated. 8. Exercise regularly. Strength train. Mobility and injury prevention exercises. 9. Get consistent and sufficient sleep. 10. Get adequate sunlight outdoors every day. 11. DCA in BTC regularly. 12. DCA harder or add more lump sums when BTC trends below 200 week moving average. 13. Support your family, friends, and community. 14. Give more than you take/receive. TL;DR: Take care of yourself. Take care of others. Buy BTC.

Jogi1811

I need BTC to spiral a little more. I'm close to breaking even and that makes me a little worried.

CommunityCommon1732

BTC and ETH are probably the safest choice,but nothing is guaranteed in crypto, especially over a 20 years timeframe

Business_Office_7978

Well there is a system, too bad the casino will ban u. As for taxes, would u not make extra money if it meant u have to pay extra taxes? Is that the reason you’re holding ur BTC? If there was no CGT what would be your strategy?

dsk83

BTC hit a new ath before the last halving so things can change

i_Am_WilliamYamz

If your strategy works, stick with it. For people who prefer holding, native BTC staking is another way to put it to work.

CryptoAnarchyst

I used to believe that there could be something other than BTC but I no longer do because none of the networks solve the fundamental issues. So I’m back to btc only

i_Am_WilliamYamz

Nothing wrong with buying spot BTC. If you're holding long term anyway, you can always look into btc staking later.

Vortiqar

The comment below nailed it. ETF if you want wealth, direct BTC if you want sovereignty. Different goals, both valid

LibertyWithLiquidity

In the end everyone wants more Bitcoin. Even if you bought the Nasdaq as a Bitcoiner, you would eventually need to pivot & convert it back to BTC. So the only real pain is: I could have had a bigger stack IF I bought something else AND IF I sold. Those are some big ifs & the safer option is buying BTC from the get-go. Bitcoin at $1.2T market cap is a joke. Even $12T would be massively undervalued in the current environment. Could be paper BTC, could be OGs + miners dumping, could be just a lack of interest in the asset. Which makes me wonder: If real estate, tech stocks & metals would all simultaneously crash, what would happen to BTC? Back to $400B market cap? I can't even imagine that. I mean, I'm not complaining, I like cheap corn & I'm certain Bitcoin will deliver, based on... just EVERYTHING, BUT: if we consistently underperform the market, say over the next 10 years, I may have to reassess my strategy, no pun intended. But before that happens I think it will melt faces, sooner than all these NPCs might expect it to. Just stack & chill.

DankShibe

According to the charts , bear market has about 4 months left ( should end October / November 2026) . Some are saying it could last until the next BTC halving . If 2026 was a 2022 than 2027 should be a 2023 which was just a sideways year with no rallies but also no crashes .

ElPozonCgena

I'll think BTC, ETH and of course SOL

ra246

I’m happy for it; cheaper BTC for me.

faiqR

I don't think it was easy. Watching everything else go to the moon while BTC was the leading asset nose diving and then trading sideways was rough. That wasn't really the case in previous bears. 

Gears6

Can we store national secrets in BTC?

InfiniteLurkers

Your friend isn't wrong about ETFs being easier. You're not wrong about wanting actual BTC. Both can be true

General_Feeling8839

They said I left but I’m still here with my 21m BTC, anyone can do this, just change username. Duhhh.

Echo_OfIdeas

Your friend isn't wrong but neither are you. ETF is easier, actual BTC is yours. Both get you exposure

nerdburg

BTC goes up, BTC go down. BTC goes up, BTC go down. BTC goes up, BTC go down....

Separate_Bid_2364

Seems unlikely…could they survive a flash crash with a quick rebound? Almost definitely but if BTC is at 15K for even 3-4 months they probably would be toast. Big Money loves to pile on any player of consequence going under. Might not even take 3 months for them to go under at that price.

No_South_9912

Nobody knows if this is yet another bull trap, it is BTC gonna run. 🦆🦆 🪿

biggest_guru_in_town

that massive buy wall sitting right at $62,200.0 for 70.85 BTC on my exchange probably is a bulwark.

The_Nothing00

Didn't China already ban BTC a million years ago?

TargP

Banks have to apply a 1,250% risk weight to balance sheet crypto under the Basel Accords, meaning >100% capitalisation (because no bank has only an 8% total capital ratio). Only once the BIS moves of the capital framework will it make even the remotest sense for banks to put BTC on balance sheet.

UpstairsAide3058

Almost **100%** of the U.S. government's Bitcoin holdings originate from confiscations, seizures, and civil or criminal asset forfeitures. \[[1](https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/31001502735754), [2](https://bitbo.io/treasuries/usa/), [3](https://bitcoinfoundation.org/news/regulation/what-is-the-federal-crypto-reserve-how-many-bitcoins-are-in-the-u-s-strategic-bitcoin-reserve/)\] The U.S. federal government is the world's largest known state holder of Bitcoin. Its exact stash remains un-audited and varies by reporting source, but estimates indicate it holds around **328,000 to 330,000 BTC**, which includes historic DOJ and FBI forfeitures.

devCheckingIn

You haven't heard? China's going to ban BTC.

biggest_guru_in_town

There is a massive buy wall buy wall sitting right at $62,200.0 for 70.85 BTC on okx. Tf.

FitCompetition1804

I had a vivid dream I. February that the bottom later this year would be $42k. Let’s just say my largest limit order is set at $42k. The BTC spirits have spoken again.

Goosebo

I really have no intention of ever selling. I’m riding this out for at least another 10 years and will only sell if the weighting I hold in BTC is too heavy compared to other investments. I really believe in the long term value of crypto generally.

EDWARD_SN0WDEN

I started auto depositing my entire tech salary into BTC at 18k a few years ago, only stopped at 40k. The alternative is to be a wage slave till I die, so yes I more bullish at lows than at highs

Adonael

Ah yes, good old 2m mcap. Just buy BTC bro

CryptoAnarchyst

I think you’ll have 2 chains left, maybe 3 and all of them will have to natively interact with BTC and each other. ADA is trying but it’s too late for it. And you’ll probably have banks take over most of the trading, or existing traditional exchanges. The model we have right now is unsustainable

MileHighManBearPig

None of them. Maybe BTC

markphillips401

You seem to be missing the point, sir. If trading nets you more BTC, it's working. But do as you see fit.

Nebrixxx

BTC is the only one where the answer feels obvious. Everything else requires a thesis that could be wrong

PhysicalEffective994

Sui, Aster, and ofc BTC,ETH, SOL

cryptofriday

2011 - 2012 perfect time to buy BTC BUT security was different - what I understand they get his keys from digital file. Looks like "house was clean" but they left all hardware and data files. Question: why it gpes in parts, not all at once?

ExpressResearch9514

Can someone explain why BTC can't go down to zero? Feels like it could. It's not a company. It has no backing. I know Blockchain has advantages but does that alone, make this valuable forever and ever?

Fun-Analysis-182

Phased recovery plus "decryption resources" usually points to weak key generation, not a recovered seed. A lot of those 2011-2013 wallets had entropy bugs you can grind through one address at a time, which is exactly what a 500-BTC-every-two-months cadence looks like.

quietdecode

BTC is the only one I'd bet on with real confidence over 20 years. Everything else is a thesis, BTC is already proven infrastructure

OdonsOwn1966

That's a heck a jump in. My total crypto exposure is still less than 1 percent of investments. I just use my play money and my lady at Edward Jones handles the rest. Should be accumulating a bit using DCA, but as fast as other investments are growing, it'll always be a fraction unless BTC, ETH, XRP or XLM blow up (preferably all of them). At least you are getting in at a good time.

Novel-Common-3547

I can see QNT - Quant gain much more value in some 10 years time. Not only is it an overledger technology that is ISO compliant, it has also a great ex-HSBC guy behind it as well as the number of tokens is lower than BTC. But from the more known ones, my money is on HBAR, SOL, ETH, maybe XRP and of course BTC.

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PneumaSystema

Update, thats why I didnt want to be here. According to info from The Core blah blah blah We are fucked. I was right. Hive mind will be growing, he is looking blockchain BTC. Why? Simple, they want have a stable form and continuity because they want have memory. All places attacked by them were organised databases. With some hashing. Great. Soon they may get near. Let me think.. what will do hive mind and our blockchain and his BTC"kids" combined together? I dont want to say even worse, as its literally in almost each protocole and signal. From Your cellphone thru military networks, comsats... Hospitals, schools, powerplants...

pythosynthesis

Attack his funding. The worse the world perceive their position to be the more expensive it gets to fund their day to day operations. The more likely they have to sell. In practice banks will start offering higher and higher rates on the loans to them, making it prohibitive at some point. It also includes suppressing BTC price, in a self fulfilling spiral. One fuels the other until it collapses.

PrincessMonsterShark

As others have said, you're day trading. I do that a little with some extra cash (not on BTC but generally on the stock market). I've learned some very hard lessons over the years. There's a reason that people say it's hard to be successful at day trading - you can make small gains and even big gains, but all it takes is one wrong decision, and your gains can get wiped out or worse. Think of it like playing blackjack. You might get a few lucky hands, but if you keep playing and you don't know what you're doing, eventually the house will win. In the world of investing and trading, you'll usually make more by investing and holding. Very few people manage to become successful traders.

NuggetsAreGolden

Could this mean the end of crypto as we know it. This is becoming one of the more remarkable cryptocurrency asset recovery stories. Here's what has happened: Irish authorities, through the Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB), working with Europol, have now recovered another 500 Bitcoin, bringing the total recovered from Clifton Collins's wallets to 1,500 BTC. At current prices, those recovered coins are worth more than $90 million. Collins originally accumulated roughly 6,000 BTC in 2011–2012 using proceeds from cannabis trafficking and spread them across 12 wallets containing 500 BTC each. Authorities have now successfully accessed three of those wallets—one in March, one in May, and this latest one. Approximately 4,500 BTC remain dormant, representing hundreds of millions of dollars at current prices. The most interesting aspect is how they did it. Authorities have only said that Europol provided "highly complex technical expertise and decryption resources." They have not explained the method publicly. That has led to several possibilities: The wallets may have been protected by an older wallet implementation with a vulnerability. Investigators may have recovered enough forensic evidence to reconstruct credentials. There may have been backups or additional key material that were never publicly known. It is considered highly unlikely that modern Bitcoin cryptography itself was "broken." No evidence suggests the underlying cryptographic algorithms protecting Bitcoin have been defeated. From a broader perspective, this is another reminder that "lost forever" doesn't always mean permanently inaccessible. Advances in digital forensics, coordinated international investigations, and improvements in blockchain analytics continue to expand what law enforcement can recover. Given your interest in post-quantum cryptography and quantum computing, this story also raises an important question: Were these wallets recovered through traditional digital forensics, or is law enforcement beginning to employ new cryptanalytic techniques? At present, there is no public evidence that quantum computing played any role in these recoveries. The available information points instead to specialized forensic and investigative methods rather than a breakthrough against Bitcoin's cryptography.