BTC

KCConnor

Define "expensive." NiceHash has a hashrate marketplace. So does Braiins. The nice thing about open markets is that prices are more or less the same wherever you go to rent it right now due to supply/demand. You're going to pay about $33,000 per Exohash/sec per day. $33K per Exohash per day is the same as: $33 per Petahash per day $0.033 per Terahash per day Renting someone's Fluminer T3 rig that does 100T-hash will cost you about $3 a day, to rent a rig that sells now for around $1800 or so. And they're paying the electricity to run it as well. Residential electricity is anywhere from $0.10 to $0.40 per kilowatt hour, and that thing will chew up 1700 watts per hour, resulting in $3-$8 or so per day (unlikely someone with high electrical costs is renting such a unit but you get the point). You keep the BTC mined, and you don't have to maintain the machine or provide power.

stellarfirefly

Most small-scale miners are either lottery mining, or mining something other than BTC which has a better potential ROI, or yes most likely, losing money slowly. You have to scale up quite a bit and/or have extremely cheap electricity to see a daily or even monthly positive income.

oopssomething

Now that the wars are almost over and world peace has never been closer than now. Humanity focusing on space exploring and renewal energy. BTC will see new highs this month.

Old_Pilot6434

I think they use Coinbase to host their BTC, but I'm not sure.

filenotfounderror

Its collected in BTC, not charged in BTC. I.e. even if they crashed the price...they would juat collect more btc.

dMONKEYMANb

It can't but everything outside of BTC can be. Payments or interactions can't be accepted from blacklisted address is pretty much what happens. If you accept BTC from a blacklisted address yours will most likely be monitored or possibly blacklisted as well.

InvestAISavvy

The social data around BTC right now is wild. Fear & Greed index is sitting at 14 — extreme fear — while price is actually up 8% on the week. Meanwhile Morgan Stanley just launched a spot BTC ETF today with $34M in first-day volume. So you've got a sovereign nation demanding BTC for critical infrastructure tolls, the biggest US investment bank launching an ETF, and retail sentiment is the most bearish it's been since February. That disconnect is hard to ignore. I keep going back to the idea that institutions are positioning for a world where BTC has real geopolitical utility while retail is panic selling. Whether Iran actually follows through on this is almost beside the point — the fact that it's even on the table changes the narrative.

Live_Drive_6256

How can feds blacklist a BTC address? I thought btc couldn’t be controlled.

SalteeKibosh

Collecting 282BTC per day is equivalent to running 1,068,181 S23 Hydro ASICs w/o paying for the power to run them. Power required to run 1M S23 Hydros is ~5,885 megawatts or 141,240,000 kWh per day which would cost ~$6,356M/day @ $0.045/kwh.

Marsuvias

Its not about the amount. They chose BTC. No privacy. Good luck Iran 😂😂😂

LibertyWithLiquidity

You said you started a month ago, that's 30 days, that's not a significant amount of time. You have hundreds of hours of research to do. If news faze you, you just haven't studied BTC. 2 comments from strangers on Reddit also shouldn't increase or decrease your confidence in something. DYOR & become sovereign. All the best!

BooDawg908

I’m glad there’s people still super confident in BTC. I’ve been hearing nothing but negativity lately

LiquidityCompass

This setup usually isn’t “alts breaking free”… it’s a transition phase. Low volatility + rising BTC dominance = liquidity still sitting in BTC, not really rotating yet. That rotation is what actually drives alt runs. Real question is: does current liquidity even support a proper BTC breakout first… or is this just another compression before a fake move?

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tldr; Bhutan has accelerated its Bitcoin sell-off, transferring 250 BTC worth about $17.7 million to exchanges as part of a broader 319.7 BTC move worth $22.7 million. Since early 2026, it has moved over $215 million in BTC, signaling a faster liquidation pace. Despite the sales, Bhutan still holds about 3,954 BTC worth roughly $280 million. The move reflects a gradual risk-reduction strategy amid wider institutional Bitcoin selling. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Revolutionary-Cup78

if you want to get technical, you should read the full White paper. Then get into the docs and deploy a BTC test net (you can make your own Bitcoin deployment, although only Bitcoin in what is agreed upon as the main net are valuable). No need to purchase any fancy hardware especially when you don't know for what it is. If you are interested in the financial side of it, just DCA some and keep it for emergencies. When you have a lot of it then you should consider getting a native wallet. I would heavily advice against going into self custodian solutions (a native wallet is self custodian) before understanding the technical side of BTC, Otherwise you might lose access to your funds or fall into a scam (very frequently, when you purchase dedicated hardware like this so popular "cold storage" ledgers, you end up getting a compromised product and or credentials designed to drain you

Awkward_Potential_

Youre right. I'll add, we should not let Christian fundamentalists co-opt the BTC story either.

ElanInsights

Yep, correct. And as is usual with any crisis, I think think risk-on / rising liquidity assets (BTC for now) suffer in any crisis, political or economic. Big players go to cash (or are forced into it by margin calls) and the retail players follow.

ElanInsights

Thanks for the lead u/NeitherAd3347 I just looked up his account - what a shame he stopped posting. Nonetheless I'll go back through them - there's a "lot of BTC in them hills!"

DespairWillOvercome

Buy Gold and BTC, OIL might get down as Israel offered readiness to peace talks regarding Lebanon

jcb193

But they had no ideas BTC would ever amount to anything other than a hobby, so why be secret about it and go to these levels of secrecy?

hughkuhn

How are you all missing the fact that Morgan Stanley introduced their BTC ETF yesterday? 16,000 wealth advisors now able to put their clients in an MS Bitcoin ETF....

ElanInsights

Yep, exactly. To my mind, "nothing stops this train" (Lyn Alden) of BTC (or the devaluation of the US$).

FromThePits

I can imagine Exxon paying Iran a toll of 25 BTC to pass a ship through the straight of Hommuz Also paying a Korean shipyard for their next bulk carrier with bitcoin. I can imagine Iran buying anti-air weapons from Russia with BTC, and Russia buying drones from China, and China buying debt from USA. But with an average of 1000 sats transaction fee I don't see BTC becoming a daily standard for salaries or coffee purchasing any day soon (ever?) . Second layer solutions will also have to settle from time to time . Too expensive for small-timers. ETF's might break also. It's tradition with third party solutions, although there's some big money behind this time. Time will tell.

Cool_Natural_145

I have 60% BTC and 40% ETH in my portfolio and will HODL

kawfeemeister0920

Has to begin with pretty much everyone has a cold wallet for their own savings. Pretty much everyone knows the difference between a hot and cold wallet and converting between cryptos whether it be USDC/T to BTC or DOGE for that matter is just an app away and a matter of minutes.

EmployEuphoric

Every 4 years my friend, and the BTC halving period affects most of the rest of the crypto market. It's been the exact same trend since the beginning. Yes, it seems to be that simple... for now. Things can always change.

FromThePits

Ok, well The main point is that you're part of the first-mover bitcoin holders, and your great great grandchildren will never be able to have as easy access to buying and saving millions of satoshi as you do right now. It will be out of reach for almost everybody by then. Even 0,0079 BTC (one month of total BTC mining release in year 2120) Weither or not planning should be considered at all, is really up to the individual. Most people probably couldn't care less.. but everybody would also very much love a huge windfall from their own ancestors. And someone has to start it somewhere, for that to ever happen, right? :)

Pretty-Memory-3472

It’s a smart sanctions workaround forcing quick BTC payments that are hard for the West to block. Basically turning Bitcoin into digital oil toll money. a single country soaking up that much fresh BTC daily is no small thing for supply pressure. Crazy how geopolitics is pushing nation-state Bitcoin adoption.

Confident_Hunter7506

The DAT strategy is going to implode. All those companies bought at cycle highs and their financing was suspect. They may be up millions in staking revenue but they’re down billions from the cost basis. A couple are bound to fail which means a lot of ETH BTC and SOL are going to flood the market.

FromThePits

I wont. Of course we all have other sources of income. My point is that BTC is bound to slip through your familys fingers over a few generations. Doesn't matter how much of a diamond hand you are and how much cold storage you do. They will become close to no-coiners, if you don't do plan for them. I plan to save for the next 4 generations. Just to give them a fighting chance and hopefully inspire them to do the same. Otherwise they will also become no-coiners, and wonder what the hell I was thinking about, having millions and not saving just a little for them? They will still be able to save in satoshi or milli-satoshis, but for every generation, their salary will allow them less and less bitcoin. Meanwhile institutions and not just the ones that issues ETF's, but banks, governments, retirement funds, companies etc. around the world will scoop up every bitcoin found in the wild, and they will sit on it forever for leverage and collateral. Individuals will not on a large scale be able to compete, so retails share will shrink significantly. NYKNYC or not. Thats not the issue here. Stamina is.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Strategy says its Bitcoin buying strategy produced a 3.7% BTC Yield and about $1.7 billion in “BTC Gain” this year after acquiring over 94,000 BTC, more than twice newly mined supply. But the article says those company-defined metrics mask the picture in SEC filings: under fair-value accounting, Strategy recorded a roughly $14.46 billion unrealized quarterly loss, leaving its overall Bitcoin position underwater even as it keeps issuing equity to buy more. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

lurker512879

He put 2.5 billion into BTC according to some article I read yesterday and as of recently he was down nearly half, they keep hedging to not lose anymore valuation there They bought at the ATH and then then said it's gonna double in price and it nearly halved

Dull_Door_9376

I'm assuming your definition of a bull run is "BTC", "BNB" and "SOL" In that case yes the bull run is over. Possibly summer is a good time for accumulating

ynnubyzzuf

Iran will receive absolutely zero bitcoin, none of this will happen They will get Yuan, which is smarter anyway. World governments are not suddenly going to skyrocket BTC to pay tolls. Absolute horseshit headline.

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FromThePits

Large institutions has the capacity to buy and hodl for far longer than any individual. The only reason we have bitcoin-millionaires is because some people were lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time with the right mindset. Even those people will not increase the holdings by much. Most of them will probably sell little by little, and their heirs will divide the remaining BTC. 2 or 3 generations and its all gone again, into the cooperate treasuries that can afford to hodl indefinitely. The BTC pool for retail will shrink to almost nothing (but never nothing). It is relatively easy for us to buy and save millions of satoshi, but for our great grandchildren this will seem absurd.

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Post is by: One-Formal-824 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sgr180/is_the_bull_run_really_over_or_not/ i genuinely don't think so, but i get why people are asking. the Fear and Greed Index has been sitting at 12 for over 46 consecutive days which is rough. BTC is down 46% from its all time high and 30% since January, altcoins are hurting even more. it feels awful to be in right now. but that's kind of the point isn't it. while retail is reducing exposure, whales and institutions are moving in the opposite direction, Strategy added over 85,000 BTC in Q1 alone, and spot ETFs just recorded their first month of net inflows after a string of outflows. that's not how a dead market behaves. there are also actual catalysts coming. the CLARITY Act markup is expected mid-April which could open the door to a whole new class of institutional capital. that's not nothing. so no i don't think it's over. but i'm also not pretending the next few weeks will be easy. the way i'm dealing with it, keep a core position, let stables earn yield while i wait, and if i need liquidity i borrow against holdings rather than sell into this. been using nexo for that, keeps me from making panic decisions when i just need cash for something. protect the downside, don't over-leverage, let things develop. what's everyone else doing rn *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Blade_Runner_69

Mainly Yuan, but they accept BTC and certain stable coins too.

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tldr; Bitcoin Depot, a major bitcoin ATM operator, lost at least 54 BTC, worth about $3.6 million, in a hack on March 23, according to investigator ZachXBT. The breach reportedly went undetected for three days until March 26. The attacker targeted the company’s storage wallets, using 19 blockchain addresses, and some funds flowed to KuCoin. Bitcoin Depot said no customer personal data was likely exposed and has hired external security investigators. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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Post is by: dustyllanos27 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sgq287/was_on_a_5hour_flight_when_cpi_data_dropped_my_ai/ I travel for work about twice a month. Usually that means I either close all positions before boarding or accept that I might land to a margin call. Neither option is great. I've been testing 1024EX's AI agent for about 3 weeks now (closed beta). Last Thursday I had a 5-hour flight — no wifi — and CPI came in hotter than expected right after takeoff. \*\*What happened while I was in the air:\*\* The agent's decision log showed this sequence: 1. CPI released at 8:30 ET. Agent detected BTC dropping 2.1% in 4 minutes. 2. It immediately reduced my BTC long by 40% (I had a momentum position open). 3. 12 minutes later, when BTC bounced slightly, it closed another 30% at a smaller loss. 4. Held the remaining 30% with a tightened stop. 5. By the time I landed, it had closed everything. Total damage: -0.7% on portfolio. \*\*What would have happened without the agent:\*\* Based on the price action, if I'd held my full position through the dump and recovery, I would have been down about -2.4% at the worst point. And knowing myself, I probably would have panic-sold somewhere near the bottom after landing and seeing the chart. So realistically, maybe -1.8% to -2.2%. \*\*My honest reaction:\*\* Relieved, but also a little freaked out. The agent made 4 decisions in 15 minutes that I couldn't even review, let alone approve. The reasoning in the logs made sense \*after the fact\*, but I had zero control in the moment. This raises a genuine philosophical question about these agents: how much autonomy is too much? I told it "manage risk aggressively during macro events" and it did exactly that. But there's a difference between trusting a strategy and trusting a system to make real-time judgment calls with your money. \*\*The uncomfortable truth:\*\* The agent did better than I would have. That bothers me more than I expected. Still testing. Still not sure I'm comfortable giving it more capital. But the CPI incident is hard to argue with. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

FunWithSkooma

see how many people rather have BTC ETFs than the asset itself...

Str8truth

Bullish for BTC!

Suspicious_Act4982

This is the phase where BTC stops being a leveraged bet on risk-on and starts just sitting there like a thing people own. What changed for me practically is I stopped thinking about exit points and started thinking about utility. Like I have a chunk of BTC that I'm not selling anytime soon, so instead of it just sitting there I took a loan against it on nexo when I needed liquidity last month. Didn't trigger a taxable event, kept my exposure. That boring middle zone you're describing is actually where crypto starts functioning like an asset class instead of a casino ticket.

rschmidt624

US government will tank BTC now

Mountain-Bar-320

I don’t believe BTC has long term prospects unless the infrastructure layer integrates into society. I think the biggest upcoming issue for me is reasoning as to why people would use rails that are not their own, especially if AI can throw together equivalent networks that work just as well, if not better. ETH probably has a future

Scotty_NZ

Gonna have to add BTC/OIL to my watch list now.

BooDawg908

I literally got into BTC about a month ago when it reached yearly lows because I figured it was a good opportunity. Other than that it’s just a hope and a prayer. Comments like yours make me feel better!

FromThePits

Well, +17 million BTC is effectively of the market today out of 20 million BTC mined. The 2,5M in circulation is probably mostly used mainly for speculation. Not much real trading for goods and labour going on here. This is after 17 years of existence. I think that another 17 years will wipe most of those free bitcoin from open exchange, and even more so when we reach the end of century. BTC will become much more valuable, but utilitized by the conglomerates of the world, not retail. Mass adoption is a beautiful dream, but highly unlikely to materilalize with BTC's protocol.

stephenph

You mean they extort 282 BTC... Tolls are generally to help pay for maintenance or other costs, in this case they are actually saving money because they do not need to attack those ships that pay. The US should send flagged "q-ships" not paying the toll supported by an air strike package when Iran attacks wipe out even more of the scum.

brianed

"I just wrote you a wall of text, again, as you say"  I didn't say that in a negative way. The main consensus that Sol is a "shit/scam" coin which obviously you don't like, is the fact that indeed BTC is and will always be no.1 no matter if you like it or not, I personally don't like it. Then by some miracle of God or whoever else is responsible, ETH just barely made it to no.2 and has some relevanve, and the rest is utter shit/nonsense/scam, this I don't like either. Trust me when I say this (as a die-hard ETH fan) ETH will go to shit as well in the next 5-10 years. And practically no matter how you cut it, BTC is king and the rest is and will be shit, it just is what it is.

mysticalmisogynistic

Iran is demanding the toll payments in Chinese Yuan. I have not heard a single thing about BTC.

Calm-Professional103

Widespread adoption is a threat to the banks and tradfi and, therefore, paints a target on BTC’s back. I say that a more gradual and  low key approach is more suitable for BTC’s longterm prospects. 

TheresNoSecondBest

I would expect the toll being in millions of dollars (+10 BTC), it actually is being paid on-chain. 10 minutes confirmation is IMHO much faster than sending this amount cash or from one bank to another.

Valyarian

Let alone, Iran may be selling all it's Oil and the tariffs for Bitcoin, $STRC growing exponentially after people have seen it accomplish a years worth of dividend yield payouts, is eating up the remaining BTC monthly, then we have $STRC's competitor, $SATA who is using the same playbook but giving higher dividends to stay competitive, then we have $BUCK, who is buying more $STRC to yield interest on a stablecoin! The interesting part of Bitcoin is that we get to witness a new financial era be created in front of us using an asset so scarce that it's never been seen before in society. This started as an experiment and now turning into the cleansing of the Tradition Finance system. The Bitcoin supply shock is around the corner, are you positioned for it?

TheRadishBros

The fact we’re still crabbing between 60-70k when literally nobody is talking about BTC is very promising.

TheRadishBros

Absolutely zero percent chance (okay, maybe 0.01%, as we do live in a clown world). The tolls would almost certainly be in either BTC or some stablecoin.

rocket_beer

ETFs keep central banking in the game **systemically**, and indefinitely. In order to transition away from fiat and make adoption use bitcoin as the world reserve currency, ETFs are basically the sole stake through the heart preventing that from happening. We only just begun and already there is a manufactured “need” everyone is wanting to use instead of getting rid of fractional reserves and quantum easing. It all but guarantees the endless use of inflationary fiat backing it. It isn’t that I’m against ETFs… I think that it kills BTC ultimately.

FnAardvark

Why does everyone assume accepting BTC payments makes you a holder? They will probably swap it out immediately for a stable coin or something else, or spend it immediately on weapons/infrastructure

anakhizer

In other words, if it's not so already, soon BTC will only have a significant dollar value because of Saylor. Once their business goes under I wouldn't be surprised to see BTC at 20k again.

Savings_Refuse_5922

Believe they originally said stablecoins or Yuan but stablecoins have the ability to blacklist wallets/funds as a central issuer. While you can't technically blacklist BTC you can flag wallets and coins that have come from those wallets. There were a few smaller exchange shops in Canada that had their licenses pulled and a few of them had dealt with Iran linked wallets.

Fit-Poet6736

I can tell you how it's been for 5 years - 20k+ generated from interest only, then more than 0.5 BTC earned through borrow/buy/repay strategy. Enjoy the numbers, will get back to you in 1 year

Responsible-Bite-355

Just dca with money you don't need for the next 4 years and you're set...when you are ready move to cold storage. Using leverage will wipe you out. You don't earn yield on Bitcoin. BTC itself is the yield. First and foremost, your main object should be setting atainable Bitcoin goals...for some that are just starting out it can be 0.01, for others 0.05 or 0.1 BTC and so on. Many dream to be whole coiners and by doing so they eliminate about 400 other people from being whole coiners. There's only 1 million coins left to be mined so think of buying as getting your hands on that last million as that Bitcoin has not entered the market/changed hands between buyers and sellers.

CryptoOnTheSidewalk

Do you self-custody your BTC or keep it on an exchange, and have you ever tried sending a small test transaction yourself? For me it was realizing you don’t really “own” anything until you control the keys and understand confirmations, the practical shift is treating every move like it can take time and fees vary, and the caveat is most mistakes happen when you rush or assume it’s instant.

OkMagician7867

I think self-custody is the whole point. But ETFs bring in capital that eventually finds its way to real BTC. Most people start with the ETF and end up running a node two years later. The on-ramp matters even if it's not the final destination.

IcyClub2963

The answer would always be : BTC

OkMagician7867

The Iran Bitcoin payments angle is wild and barely being discussed in crypto circles. If that becomes a sustained pattern it's actually bullish for BTC long term as a neutral settlement layer — but short term the war uncertainty crushes risk appetite across everything. You're right this isn't going away anytime soon.

MadSL1m

The "never sell, always borrow" tactic you talked about is literally the "Buy, Borrow, Die" playbook played out by billionaires through real estate, only on Web3. It's not simply that you're making a dull decision; it's that you've advanced from the cryptocurrency gambling hall to serious wealth management. In 2050, the idea of trading in your BTC or ETH for fiat currency will be seen as absurd as trading Manhattan real estate for trinkets.

Aerocryptic

I don’t think anyone who has put some of their BTC on ETH’s ICO will complain

FromThePits

I predict it will end in balancesheets of governments, hedgefunds and cooperations. Maybe thousands of them, but still elite only. From here on its all powerplays and leverage. Your children will hopefully become succesful on their own merits, and when its time to invest they will put their winnings into BTC, and probably have hundreds or even a thousand more satoshis.... but not millions like us first mover generation. Thats why I advocate to make a plan to save for future generations, while we still can.

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Forward-Speed-6665

There’s also: Sats Terminal - non custodial, aggregates BTC loans in one dashboard, lookin at their lowest APR ~3%, no locked terms. Can go direct to get yield as well after getting stables

silverous

The pivot from BTC mining to AI and energy is interesting but the timing raises questions. Selling a third of your BTC holdings right before potentially bullish regulatory clarity (CLARITY Act markup in April) is a bold move. The broader pattern: companies that chased crypto mining hype in 2021 are now chasing AI hype in 2026. The underlying question is whether MARA has actual competitive advantage in AI infrastructure or if this is another pivot driven by share price pressure rather than genuine strategic clarity.

EndSmugnorance

The fact this is still a discussion frustrates me. If BTC had adopted big blocks in 2017, we *would* actually see adoption with low transaction fees. But nooo we’re still debating whether Bitcoin can be used as a *currency* because greedy small-blockers won. 🙄 BCH should have been Bitcoin.

joseaamanzano

Jane Street or equivalent most likely. ETFs are just there to control BTC, not to enable mass adoption

ReadingTheSign23

I get the concern, but “99% institutionalized” feels a bit extreme unless self-custody just completely dies out, which seems unlikely. If anything, BTC is one of the few assets where individuals actually have a real shot at holding it long term without intermediaries. The bigger issue isn’t institutions taking it all, it’s people not securing it properly or not planning inheritance at all. Most coins get lost, not seized. If someone sets up proper custody and a clear inheritance plan, there’s no reason it can’t stay in a family. The tech already allows for that, it’s just not something most people think about until it’s too late. Institutions will definitely own a big chunk, but I don’t think that automatically means individuals get pushed out completely.

Quantum270

Amazing they are at an overall loss with how many years they have been buying BTC

midachavi

"vessels are given a few seconds to pay in bitcoin" - Lulz, good luck with that. More like sit down and enjoy your coffee for two hours. Lightning for 300 BTC? Not so much. Even the instant small payment argument is now invalid. We'll see how this centrally controlled archaic shitcoin proves itself.

FromThePits

Okay. Will your great grandchildren own as much BTC as you do today?

ByteForc3

We accept BTC signs

MejiaAlex28

To buy your first BTC. Just make a Coinbase account, If you live in the US. If not then use anything else like crypto.com or Binance. After creating your account do the necessary steps to secure it. (Google authentic, Face ID) then Insert your card info or bank info and purchase BTC. You can set a recurring buy, to buy BTC every day, week or month. When you’ve collected enough Satoshi you can start researching what a cold wallet is and move your funds off the exchange into a cold wallet👍 cheers

evandollardon

you think that ETH and BTC will disappear? Why?

Dude-Lebowski

Bitcoin doesn't need to be moved. It is good to just save amd spend when needed. When Iran needs whatever shipload of whatever from china, they can pay with BTC.

Romanizer

That would mean they just collect more BTC. US should market buy 1 million BTC and shoot the price up so Iran gets less.

BrooklynNeinNein_

20 of 21 million BTC have been mined already. Iran will not get "all the BTC". Also the west is not a political cohesive construct, if Europe for example wants to ban Bitcoin, I am sure the US is happily picking up the pieces.

Ok_Bus_3914

**You don’t need to “get into Bitcoin” by going all in.** The better way to start is: learn the basics, understand wallets, make one very small **spot** buy, and see how you handle the volatility before putting in more money. At 19, the biggest mistake is usually skipping straight to charts, leverage, or people promising fast money. I’d stay away from **contracts** at the beginning. Bitcoin can move hard, and if you don’t understand custody, transfers, or risk yet, leverage just makes the learning curve more expensive. A simple path would be: * learn what Bitcoin actually is and how a wallet works * start with a tiny amount of **spot** BTC * practice basic security before adding more * if you don’t want to guess the “perfect entry,” use a small **DCA** plan instead of trying to time every dip If you’re looking at **BiyaPay** specifically, the relevant part here isn’t just “it has crypto.” For a beginner, it makes more sense as a place to start with small **spot** buys or a **DCA** setup and get familiar with managing the position step by step. Since it also has more advanced trading functions, I’d treat those as something to look at later, not as the first move. Start small, keep it boring, and don’t add serious money until you understand what you’re doing.

EndSmugnorance

I hope I live to see the day when Tether collapses and takes BTC and MSTR with it.

Acceptable-Smile-225

BTC looks bullish long term, but short term still volatile.

MaximumStudent1839

“A few seconds to pay in Bitcoin…” Whoever this Iranian guy is, he is pretty clueless about BTC. BTC confirmations happen in minutes, if you are likely, not in seconds.

gnittidder

Rate is set in USD and paid in BTC.

sh1be

If Trump didn't start this shit, BTC would go up to $1 mil a lot later.

mlag000

BTC use case is always criminal or illegal in a certain way, funny.

Silversaving

You must REALLY hate Satoshi huh? He has even more btc and could rug pull BTC at any moment...

mjmeyer23

I somehow think it's not true... or not true yet. it is unavoidable. it will almost be a bigger blow to the west than them actually testing a nuke out in the open. even worse woulde be a toll payable in Yuan or BTC only. EU would be eager to join the war at that point and we will likely finally see regime change. either way, the US would be off the hook for keeping a large presence in the region indefinitely and the rest of the world would have to pay the toll or provide policing. it hurts the dominance of the dollar as a reserve currency but its probably net positive for the fiscal situation in the US. weaponizing the dollar was a bad idea all these year ago. this is the inevitable outcome of ever escalating sanctions and seizures.

ProtoplanetaryNebula

This assumes these big corporations will get involved in BTC. This won’t be their area of expertise, they will probably just buy Chinese RMB instead. Crypto is unfamiliar territory for them.

alex88-

Yeah if anything US negotiated for BTC usage. Our institutions are heavily invested in BTC too.

Ajobek

Iran will just raise price of toll and get more BTC or just ask for Yuan.

LyleeNicholas

Iran pushing for development of BTC to somehow improve transaction times to was not on my bingo card for 2026.

EN3RGIX

The fuck you talking about? There's like 40+ sources confirming Iran charging tolls in BTC...

Regular_Structure274

At any moment that could change. And they could essentially rug pull BTC.

brianmonarch

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re making assumptions. You guys are forgetting one important factor. Partnerships. Hadera and Ripple have huuuge partnerships with huge companies. They’ve been building them for years. That’s why it doesn’t matter if a faster coin comes out. Who cares if it settles a transaction in half a second instead of two seconds. It’s all real time at this point …those new coins don’t have partnerships Those coins that do (HBAR and XRP) with huge companies like Ripple and Hedera championing them …. are being used for their utility right now. Companies don’t want to invent their own tech. Banks might. But I don’t think the companies mentioned above are even counting on Banks at this point. They have other use cases the whole Swift narrative is so old at this point. It was a thing people discussed five years ago. I don’t think it’s going to happen but these huge companies… They don’t want to hope that AI is going to make them something that is secure and perfect. That stands the test of time. These coins are tested…. over 10 years old now. They have shown that they are hack proof. At least up until now. This thread is just a bunch of doomsdayers, assuming the worst. It’s so obvious that 90% of the people in this discussion are bitcoin maximalists. Guess what… It’s the oldest, least green, slowest and least useful coin out of all of them. Periooood. All it has at this point is a store of value. That’s it. But these guys are in a vacuum chamber, surrounded by other people that have the same positive view about this coin. And maybe that’s enough. I’m not saying it’s not. But when utility matters… and I do believe it will… I don’t know what’s gonna happen to BTC after that point. But maybe its store of value will last forever and continue to grow. Definitely a possibility. But when it comes to utility and actually being used… Ain’t happening. Lightning network is nothing compared to the coins that are made for this sort of job. Look it up.