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No-Addition465

Hey bro, you mentioned you're currently buying into BTC because you think it's gonna go above 100k. Can you share why you think that? I'm just really curious👍

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Head-End-5909

Yes, take care of debt first. Modify your spending habits to avoid further debt, then invest your discretionary income in BTC. Also make sure you have adequate emergency funds.

el_bentzo

Using normal technical analysis BTC dropping from $126k to $80k, it would be perfectly normal to retrace back to $103k before continuing a longer downtrend.

Affectionate_Knee_96

I’m in my early 20’s so I’m not into real estate yet, I do have some MSTR. But that’s been a rough time 😂 should’ve bought some Tesla earlier this year but I stuck it out in MSTR. Once I understood BTC I realized everything else isn’t as good.

butteredrubies

Yeah, and since 2017, financial institutions started putting money into BTC or setting up funds and the crypto community cheered it on. And all the memes and hot takes have stayed the same and grown stale but keep getting reposted like it's 2017.

Flat_Program8887

So you asking someone who's smart enough to have $15k in BTC but dumb enough to rack up a debt of $15k that became a burden?

VariatCA

Maybe every other country in the world was too busy spending the last few years buying nothing but garbage memecoins and shitcoins, hoping for the "ALT SZN" to outperform Bitcoin when it finally pumps. Everyone here loves to complain about "America selling" while simultaneously never owning any BTC themselves to support the market.

RandomJoe7

That's because more and more people from the last few cycles have come to understand what a huge scam alts are. They are a giant casino gambling shitshow, they basically serve no purpose. With one big difference: instead of a few 10 or 100 alts, there's now millions of shitcoins. It's all a giant shitshow of copy/paste coins from people who are trying to find greater fools to try and get rich over night. And people have caught on to this more and more over the last 10 years, and are now much less likely to invest into alts. If they're doing crypto at all anymore, they're doing basically only BTC, maybe some ETH (but even that is going to keep losing momentum, as ETH's value is mainly derived from the creation a bunch of shitcoins). With the exceptions of random pump and dumps, short lived individual hypes etc that last a cycle, we're never going to see crypto returns like in the past again. The market is now in the Trillions, it's just not going to do 100x's anymore like 10-15 years ago.

JDovah

Yes, as Bitcoin gains more adoption, its volatility will decrease. I believe the main reason the previous bear cycle was so severe is because of the amount of black swan events that happened in 2022, this is something a lot of newbies probably don’t know about. Combined with the state of the post covid global economy, it created the perfect conditions for the huge crash we saw during that year. So it’s likely this bear market won’t see as big of a downturn, unless a series of black swan events happens again, one example that comes to mind is MSTR selling their BTC and collapsing.

matthegc

BTC now being approved to be traded by financial institutions and for those institutions to be allowed to create BTC derivative products is why the cycle no longer exists. It is no longer left to its own mathematical devices, it’s now being pushed and pulled by banks, hedge funds, etc.

PokeTaskForceYT

$15k is doable for average U.S. income. I’d first know where my money is going and cancel any subs, lower my bills as much as possible and learn to never eat out(DoorDash). If you sell BTC without budgeting and being disciplined, you’ll end up back in the same place.

RandomJoe7

How come there is still people who think BTC will keep doing 10x's or 100x's like in the past? That time is over, this isnt 2010-2015 anymore. The BTC market cap is much, much bigger now, already worth Trillion(s), it will never do the returns again like it has in the past. People really need to get off the hopium/copium...

Prudent-Car-452

With BTC being in the top 10 assets globally, it was never realistic that financial institutions were gonna invest in it If they can make money from it, they will take the opportunity to do so

gettin

Weekly DCA into BTC. When I run out of dry powder I sell off some stocks that I am holding. This way I am still invested in the market but all new money goes into BTC. Eventually my brokerage account will have been all sold off. I do have IRA and 401k holdings as well

RandomJoe7

What, you think crypto will keep doing 100x's all the time? Really? Have you ever tried to run the math on that? Yeah, exactly, it's not going to happen. The more mature/bigger a market becomes, the less explosive the growth will be. I can't believe there's still people who think BTC will keep doing the same growth as 10-15 years ago...

Ashhh1991

I was basically 20% in BTC but that has ballooned into 60-70% over the past few years. I sold some of my BTC to move the money towards the stock market, but with the Black Friday Sale and the Cyber Monday Flash Sale by the Bitcoin CEO, I couldn't pass up the opportunity and moved some it it back to BTC. I still have savings for emergencies, a career and a house. This is just my retirement stuff.

Yasha666

If the Fed comes out of their FOMC meeting with a 50 basis point rate cut, I am sure that BTC will pump in the short term.

NHLBigFan

I can see BTC dropped to $9XK at some point so let the sleeping dog lie.

NewPhoneNewAccunt

I bought around 1000BTC in total. Bought stuff with them. Found 0.1BTC quite a while later and at that point it was worth about as much as I had spent on all my bitcoin ever. Sold it right away and thought it was funny how everything I ever bought with Bitcoin was essentially free to me.

Yasha666

Don't forget about the 'infinite' divisibility of Bitcoin. You are leading yourself to interesting questions about scarcity but failing to realise the point. Forget your 'whole number bias'. There are currently 100M sats per BTC. This could potentially be changed in the future if there is a consensus vote to increase the divisibility.

JDovah

Exactly. I was one of those who believed last cycle was going to be different, and I held my BTC I bought at $40k-$60k all the way down to $15k, but I didn’t panic sell, even bought some of the dip at $20k and below. Just held it until I recovered all my losses and ended up making some decent profits too. If you’re at a loss, it’s all about having patience and not letting you emotions get the best of you, that’s why you should only be buying BTC with money you don’t need. It eventually goes back up, sometimes can take 2-3 years though.

VariatCA

From the looks of it just now, it was the Nasdaq flushing -0.35% in 5 minutes, followed by over $1 Billion in shorts being opened up on BTC within 2.5 minutes. They managed to nuke another $50M in high-leverage Longs before stocks did a complete-180. Today wasn't without its usual daily 24hour lead of shorts-vs-longs, but buying pressure has been a little thin to absorb is, so we're down like 1.5% or so lol.

HoldOnDearLife

People are trying really hard to get you to buy BTC and crypto. Why? Do they really want to share the wealth with you? hahaha when have the rich wanted to help the little guy?

layersofme72

this could happen but the solution is simple, just hold actual BTC in self custody and ignore all the derivative products. if institutions want to create paper BTC and blow themselves up thats their problem. the original use case still works fine if you actually own your keys

Capable_Location9278

Why did you buy BTC? This should tell you when to sell. For me, it is to hedge against the dollar and enhance my retirement. I agree with u/Due_Statistician2604

kirtash93

Smart people owns BTC

Due_Statistician2604

Never sell all. wait till you can retire off 5-10% of your BTC per year and if things go as they should you’ll end up with more than 50% of your stack to pass on

PsychologicalElk4573

100%, probably like the other said too, it's probably less smart than just buying BTC directly but it looks cool.

mju25524

Sorry, I didn't understand very well, I'm new to BTC, but if I buy a BTC will they give me a castle?

panthera_N

reddit censorship is terrible `BTC just took another step deeper into tradfi, which further reduces CZ's ability to manipulate BTC, making BTC's price action even more unpredictable. The positive is that it gets BTC closer to the 1M target, but the price action is probably closer to the stock market`

jmorais00

You still trusted the govt and centralised currency when you went into BTC before 2012?

LatinumGirlOnRisa

I think you make a good & realistic point: as, imho, it seems that people making use of BTC in any way they want to/choose to is what adoption likely looks like. so not really a cult-like form of adoption dictated by others but rather the free-will use of it. something Satoshi Nakamoto - whoever s/he or they as a group might be - apparently considered.🤔💭

HSuke

For 15 BTC, I'd store my backup keys encrypted on a public cloud. No way I'd risk a fire or flood taking out both the hardware signer and paper key at the same time.

panthera_N

BTC just took another step deeper into tradfi, which further reduces CZ's ability to manipulate BTC, making BTC's price action even more unpredictable. The positive is that it gets BTC closer to the 1M target, but the price action is probably closer to the stock market

whimsical-crack-rock

This is what I tell myself when I go back and look at some of the transactions I was making back when I was day trading BTC and ETH in ~2016 lol. “no this is good, everything happens for a reason, its awesome that I sold 90 ETH for like $900 when at its peak it would have been worth closer to 400k.” “I would have sold it anyway long before it got onto the thousands either way” pounding beers, buzzed as hell sitting in my bedroom in sweat pants firing off trades that would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars today lol

Informal-Ad220

Everyone is a genius in hindsight. At the time, I thought we were at a point where BTC was going to keep going. If it had, I would have had the money to make my personal goal.

return_z3ro

He probably understands the technical details but… just let him enjoy his moment. Besides, his 1 BTC may technically be on the chain, but if he loses the keys, then it’s no longer *his* Bitcoin. I think, metaphorically speaking, it’s fair to say the Bitcoin is on the cold card. “There’s a cold card with 1 BTC on it” sounds better than “there’s a cold card in a safe with the seed phrase for deriving an address with 1 BTC on the chain.” We all understand what he means.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

You’ll see in a few months whether the crypto market will be in a bear market or a bull run. Right now, BTC is below the 50-week moving average, so you have to guess what will happen next.

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shpeucher

At this point can there be a separate BTC meme sub

Zealousideal_Rain_79

Not so much! BTC is below the 50-week moving average, which according to this indicator means the end of the cycle.

OrdinaryReasonable63

No, they bring people in who buy BTC, Blackrock doesn’t have any price exposure to BTC, their customers do. They just hold the assets in their custody and collect fees. Of course they want a larger base of people investing in their funds so they can collect more fees, but that’s the entire extent of their interest.

donjoe0

Kaspa for one, you could bother because it's simply better tech that does the same thing as Bitcoin, without sacrificing anything mentioned in the famous trilemma - it breaks out of the trilemma by being a blockDAG, not a block-chain, and is developed by some supernerd OGs with published papers on crypto technology. The only question is if it's going to get the required network effect or sustained popularity growth after it got an initial one in 2023-24 but then deflated, and meanwhile the top exchanges are still refusing to list it. (With continued development it could become a combination of the best things about BTC and ETH/SOL, so if it can't win on just being better than BTC, it could win later down the road by replacing both top dogs, or all 4-5-6 top dogs.)

DardMiner1982

Ah yes, the usual rejection at 93.5K… The bears call it 'strong case', I call it 'BTC having a coffee before breaking its dreams'. Fed or no Fed, every consolidation just seems like a pre-game warm-up.

Admirral

My comment refers to real technical supply. Not circulating supply or emission rates. BTC total supply (including lost coins, whats in exchanges, whats not in exchanges, etc.) can only go up, to a maximum of 21 million. ETH on the other hand has the ability for its total supply to decrease. And it has been some two years ago (then it went back up after scaling improvements). Sure, you can argue that lost coins cause deflationary-like effects, etc. etc. But BTC does not have a true "burn" mechanism the way Ethereum does. Ethereum is also equally as susceptible to lost coins as BTC, so this is mostly an invalid comparison.

Informal-Ad220

I'm that driver. I had the money and opportunity to reach a milestone, so I did it. My wife is not upset about my timing at all. She agreed with the decision. Like Michael Saylor would say, are you going to care you paid $125,000 when BTC is worth a million?

ComfortableRow3558

your better off just buying the BTC. those miners are really a scam due to to such a low hashrate more of a novelty that you could get some but waste of money all the same since its like impossible odds. Asic miners not great at the minute either since costs more on power to run unless you live in a country where it can turn a profit.

B1ggusDckus

Dude, you got it backwards. I agree with most of your statement, except that: QE is bullish af for 2026. This money needs to go somewhere and a big chunk is gonna end up in BTC. And thats exactly what I am sayin: The cycle is not past its prime, its about to take-off.

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bsdjones

I have experienced the same thing. I'm to the point were I'm about the spam there inbox to the point they aren't able to reply to other people until they address this issue. The app was great but for the last 3 month they just keep dropping rewards and if they keep going at the rate they are ill be earning 0 BTC in 40 days.

Present-Reality-1369

Absolutely agree they're useless for the most part but just curious if you capitalize on hype cycles. Seeing as you may be extremely well off and set for much further wealth appreciation just holding BTC I appreciate any current strategies you find effective other than holding.

A-Stock-A-Day

Calm before the pump. BTC coiling at 93k, ETH flexing on ETF inflows, Fear/Greed at 26 screaming oversold. Jobless claims tomorrow = rocket fuel if soft. I’m just buying small, staking on Nexo for 8-12% while I wait. Sideways is accumulation season. Dec historically rips.

Sonster111

yeah the MSTR worship is kinda wild. theyre just borrowing money to buy BTC, if rates stay high or BTC drops hard the whole thing gets sketchy fast

Happy_Discussion_536

At the end of the day tutes are buying BTC AND bringing more people in. The effect is the same, it benefits BTC.

Velvet-Thunder-RIP

Ok but in this scenario this I get "shareholder value" when they start selling picks in mass. XRP. ETH. and BTC going to keep going up.

Proof_Jellyfish_5046

Try and prove in a court of law that wallet xyz DOES NOT belong to you, after I purposely denounce you that you own 1000000000 GBP in undeclared BTC :). I dare you!

Correct-Potential-15

yeah but lets say 1 BTC is worth 1 billion USD, 1 sat is worth 10 full dollars... meaning the transaction fee for 1 transaction will be OVER 5,000 DOLLARS...

badharp

u/LovelyDayHere are you bearish on BTC short-term, medium-term, forever-term? I try to get as much feedback as I can, hope you reply.

MaybeOnFire2025

[](https://www.reddit.com/user/MaybeOnFire2025/)Question -- I didn't know squat about MSTR until recently. As I understand it, the core idea is the belief that bitcoin will never go down in the long run, so they buy and hold. Claim to never want to sell (except for the recent caveat). I also understand that bitcoin doesn't produce revenue. I further understand that they just diluted their stock to pay existing shareholders a dividend. Questions: 1. How do they generate revenue, other than by stock dilution? 2. Does this dilution, coupled with the recent "well, *maybe* we will sell BTC if we need to" announcement, mean that other equity is essentially not available, and that it's dilution or (or then) bust? 3. If I am correct about #2, and they are paying *existing* debt obligations with diluted new equity...how is this not a Ponzi scheme at this point?

y2kobserver

The bitcoin network is a software. That software could be made to allow transferring BTC out of any wallet without having the private key (the blockchain data is public) with a “deleted” flag on the defunct wallet. How law enforcement (judges) hasn’t figured this out yet boggles the mind.

DangerHighVoltage111

>Confused if you’re calling me a low karma account with 13k karma? No, I don't mean you. I made the edit after I read the other answer to your comment: r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1pdlgs0/gold_is_not_the_problem_your_moe_is/ns7j9vo/ Maybe reddit didn't show it to you in time? >Lastly, lightning has not failed. Oh it very much has. https://old.reddit.com/user/DangerHighVoltage111/comments/1ne1qyt/ln_fails/ What you see as "Lightning" today is almost completely custodial IOUs. Because that is the only way it scales. >Ark is coming online to offer more options and liquidity on layer 2. They all have the same problem: You need at least one onchain transaction and BTC is so massively crippled that this will not work at scale. Instead custodial solutions are rolled out providing nothing of the freedom and control an uncrippled Bitcoin would. >This is all very predictable. It is but in the complete opposite sense you mean it. BTC/LN is shoehorned back into custodial use so that banks and state can keep control if they decide to use BTC. >Edit: also just to be clear, there is a mantra many actual bitcoiners use these days in place of hodl… it’s “spend and replace”. I have not heard this in years from Maxis. Instead the few occasions I see a Bitcoiner talk about spending they get ridiculed by the majority of replies for spending their BTCs. >Bitcoin incentivizes you not to spend it on shit you don’t need, which is a good thing. You should only be spending your money on things that are valuable to you and not because your money is evaporating like an ice cube. The REAL reason bitcoin is not used more broadly in the US in 2025 is because the tax treatment makes it a massive pain in the ass to do so. Nice, that we agree, at least, on your last sentences 😄🙂

cizmainbascula

You have to ask yourself different questions: \- Will quantum processing be able to crack BTC cryptographic algorithms? Or any other technological advancements? \- Will BTC still be a thing? Parts of BTC being permanently lost... is the least of my worries. Not 300 years from now but 5 years from now.

Capable_Location9278

I would ask what are you doing with your other funds? How many people are putting 100% of their investment funds into BTC? I hope no one. Point being, this would tell you what you might diversify into. Investments being defined as savings, CD's, equities, real estate, crypto, commodities, collectables etc. Not considering the pro's and con's of each investment type.

marcelodf12

No, it doesn't detract from the value. If you buy 0.001 BTC today and hold it for 50 years, when 0.1 btc equals "1 BTC today" the 0.001 BTC will have increased by 10x. The concept of scarcity is linked to the creation of new BTC, not how much a BTC is divided. It's like when a country decides to remove zeros from its currency, that does not generate inflation or deflation. In this case it would be the opposite, it would be like adding zeros which does not generate inflation or deflation either since the rewards will also be adjusted to the number of new decimals.

RiceMofo

Because he’s not a minor but someone who for some reason can’t cash out his BTC legally

DangerHighVoltage111

BTC yes, Bitcoin no.

VariatCA

That's not what this place is lol. /CC is 95% people who only bought Alts, Memes and Shitcoins for the last 3 years without ever buying a single Satoshi-worth of Bitcoin, then watching as BTC's choppiness destroys their alts.

Capable_Location9278

One thing to remember is sure, companies are developing quantum cryptography to break passwords and controls, but other companies are developing the other side to block this also using quantum computing. My view is this will result a balance between the two sides, as exist today. The BTC technology will keep up with the ability to keep the wallets secure.

Happy_Discussion_536

BTC is up from then.

Happy_Discussion_536

If you didn't leverage like a regard and still holding BTC you should be fine.

Emergency_Egg1281

The REVERSE is about to happen . BTC fall and ALTS pump....

Awkward_Potential_

>The fixed amount of Bitcoin doesn't matter. Value (of an fraction) goes up and down on a whim and it's impossible to do any kind of price tags for anything in BTC as what 0.0001 btc is tomorrow worth might be very different to what it is today. This is likely true until the dollar dies. Dollar death will be the thing that brings "stability" to Bitcoin.

DigitalHierophant

There is no way Zcash is going to hold $300 when BTC inevitably retraces to 70k

Key_nine

Yeah but to reach 1 million, it will take another 20 years. BTC will now grow like the S&P 500, it will also be manipulated by professional institutions to make money from selling options. It is no longer what it set out to be, it is just another way for Wallstreet to make money from selling options to retail.

GoldmezAddams

I don't trade. Bitcoin is long term savings that I will deploy thoughtfully when the time is right. But I do own other stuff, mostly low cost broad market index funds in my retirement accounts, and some precious metals. Selling BTC to just sit in dollars and "call it a day" is insane.

wanwand69

Can BTC rise up to $100K today? Wdyt?

thebaldmaniac

You can buy it on DeFi. Don’t think any CEX providers have it. I wouldn’t bother anyway. Here’s the weightage https://app.reserve.org/bsc/index-dtf/0x2f8a339b5889ffac4c5a956787cda593b3c36867/overview It’s 70% BTC and close to 15% ETH, just buy those two in that percentage and you are matching it without the additional risk

L00PYLL0YD

Damn, that is clever. We cannot access River in the UK, therefore use Strike. Hopefully they implement a similar feature with the 7 day MA, although I do allocate my funds to my DCA amount (Also hourly) as per my budgeting with wages etc, but did increase my hourly recently as BTC took a dump, to captivate on the sale sats. I did like though that Strike have recently added the ability to change the amount without resetting the fee timer. (It used to reset the fees when you changed the DCA amount).

b1mm3rl1f3

Love how Lamborghini just launched their own BTC wallet. Prepping cause they know who the next consumers are lol

SemanticMap

The price of BTC is set by open trading volume. The BTC lost from lost keys a while ago were never on the market and don't affect price. MarketCap extrapolating the active trading price to all coins is an Illusion that quickly evaporates when all those coins go up for sale at the same time. 3 to 2 is significant if all the fab eggs are on the open market. 1000000 to 9999999 and that 1 lost wasn't on the market has no effect on trading price.

Lekkerbesje

Wait until BTC hits 50k then buy some BTC and iso20022 tokens. Then just sit and wait a few years. Don’t forget to put all your digital assets on a cold wallet!

L00PYLL0YD

I agree with you 100%. The sentiment is very good and for a sub with 8m members, it has some damn clever people in it. I have never felt more relaxed than buying BTC on a hourly DCA. Seeing the amount of purchases over time has just encouraged me more. I know when I go to sleep, or to work where I am not allowed my phone, when I next look, I have more sats! I sometimes try and resist looking to be more surprised by the balance! HODL!

Holiday-Kaler

Just buy BTC on an exchange and send it from Solflare or a simple BTC wallet, quick and easy for payments.

Freedumbaintcheap

Meaning ,Blackmail officials into allowing law changes that would tank BTC price tdlr

Aggravating-Club4003

Change the price chart of BTC price in USDC to the price of USDC in BTC (how much BTC you need to buy 1USDC) and youll see it clearly, dollar, euro and other government backed currencies are always inflationary, as they can always print more and devalue it basically. There is a limited amount of BTC so it is inherently deflationary, meaning supply is capped and offer (is supposed to) keep growing. While the Us of Europe keep their currencies pretty stable (and that involves a lot of politics that i dont know about, wages, rents, etc all influence the "stability" of a currency), the most return youll get against inflation (your money having less purchasing value) is with limited supply assets, like BTC, gold, etc

Mohammad_Noruzi

save 0.01% fiat for daily purchases. this way, you're not forced to sell your BTC for daily purchases.

trillionSdollarstech

ETF flows of yesterday: * BTC: –$15M * ETH: **+**$140M * SOL: –$33M

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PirateSKB

BTC is down like 0.5% on the 24 hour chart lol...

qthistory

I remember the late 2017 crash of BTC. "Wait until Wall Street gets their bonuses!" "It's just going down because of the Chinese New Year, it'll rebound!"

dinkydonuts

I used to buy ETH, and now I’ve become a BTC Stan.

Visual_Building_1666

Interesting post. I don't understand enough about the Japan debt thing...but looking into it. I don't like the sound of this, but I really hope the bull-run is still going and BTC (& SOL) will hit all-time highs in the next few months. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMS-83IZiVk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMS-83IZiVk) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEh3nECbjSk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEh3nECbjSk)

Emergency-Owl344

buy BTC , if you cant stack sats

Happy_Discussion_536

Yea it's a ton of degens that use way too much leverage and trade rather than invest. That's where all the volatility comes from. The good news is that it creates tons of opportunities for disciplined buyers when BTC gets very cheap like now.

Sad-Mango-5363

even if 90% got lost (which is a huge stretch), you’re mixing up “number of coins moving” with “economic value moving”. Miners don’t care if they get 0.00001 BTC or 1 BTC in fees, they care about the \*purchasing power\* of that reward vs their costs. If supply keeps shrinking but demand to use the network is still there, each sat just prices higher and fees in fiat terms can stay attractive. on top of that, if we’re talking 300–400 years out, hardware, energy, even what “mining” looks like could be totally different. if demand is dead by then, it’s not because too many people lost their keys, it’s because bitcoin failed for other reasons. more info here: https://fazilcrypto.com/es/blog/cuantos-bitcoins-hay/#:\~:text=Opciones%20para%20comprar%20bitcoins&text=Por%20ejemplo%2C%20plataformas%20como%20Fazil,resulta%20dif%C3%ADcil%20seguirles%20el%20ritmo.

EnsambleOfShadows

Bank of America tells people to allocate 4% to BTC. Majority that doesn't hold crypto yet will buy the BTC etf, which is what they want because it makes them money.

SeriousGains

This time is different^TM Remember 2018 - Bitcoin ETF’s, Institutional money is here Remember 2022 - Tesla accepts BTC, Bitcoin treasuries, Nations accumulating

Grand-Button5819

That's exactly what I'm talking about. BTC **is** money. If your goal is to accumulate more fiat currency then you're going to keep getting anxious whenever the fiat denominated price of BTC dips. When you realize that there are different forms of money with different properties and choose the hardest available money the anxiety goes away.

Atlesi_Feyst

Yeah, the guys that buy <1k in BTC and don't have large amounts invested. If you're serious about it, you're not spamming memes lol