BTC

pronebonedetector

Thank you, I actually forgot to consider that a lot of the HNWI capital, which is not tied into real estate or land etc, is probably managed by those third party managers who for sure still avoid bitcoin completely. No one is putting their job on the line if they can just opt for a safe alternative. But still, I find it hard to believe that even 1-in-3 of those people would not have enough liquidity to try investments with their own cash and be able to buy a single BTC. And even more so if we lower the bar to much much below a millionaire limit.

Cryptocaller

I added the BTC price as a Coinstats widget on my Apple Watch. Lost its fun factor in less than a week.

sillygitau

Agreed. For me, BTC isn’t speculative. It’s a hedge against a collapsed or even insanely restricted western financial system.

Legitimate_Cry_5194

First advice is don't buy ETH and in general buy only BTC. Second advice is don't day trade crypto. Third advice is don't buy yet. And fourth advice, to answer your question, is use Kraken. Don't expect privacy anywhere, if you are into some illegal shit think twice.

ReceptionSmall9941

A solid framework is to start with BTC/ETH only, then track each buy with a written thesis and an invalidation point before you enter. If you can’t explain the token’s cash-flow/utility driver and major risks in a few lines, skip it for now.

GalaxyS25Plus

BTC is crashing like no tomorrow and you say nothing?

anyholsagol

Most people do only allocate a small percentage to crypto, BTC being the main one. Like 5% of their portfolio just to have some skin in the game most likely. Big gains take patience. Spread your investments and chill, there's no lottery ticket. Just accumulate and hang around.

Rare-Sheepherder-740

I’ve tried using Bitcoin mainly for paying for online services too since it can be useful for privacy-focused transactions. I sometimes use Whop to get paid for my services, but generally it’s good to watch transaction fees and price swings when using BTC for payments. If you’re new, start with small test payments just to get comfortable with the process

Maleficent-Hair8802

I can corroborate @lowalron89, as he is indeed a witness to the Jesus'ness. I am a deciple of and only require... 1 BTC, Sir.

Rare-Sheepherder-740

I ran into the same issue before when buying larger amounts of BTC. I ended up using Whop to get paid for my services and handle client transactions since it doesn’t have the same tight daily purchase limits that some exchanges have. If you’re verified, you might check if Whop supports your funding method for faster setup.

mepethue

Millionaire? In which currency? There are no millionaires in BTC. In Iranian rial, you’d be one with just a single US dollar.

Dannyspud

Don’t know why your comment was downvoted so much. It’s a valid question. You also never said everyone. I think 1 in 3 is a fair estimate, at least for people even thinking about investing in BTC.

Rare_Rich6713

With BTC it's a smart gamble, BTC controls everything. If it goes down, I know everyone is getting rugged with me. So yeah, BTC or nothing at this point. I noticed institutions are going in as well through BTCFi, that's a sign.

pronebonedetector

I'm sure this is a big part of it but personally I don't think BTC is going anywhere but up in the future, as it's been around a good while already

Rare_Rich6713

If that basket is BTC, I will without thinking twice. I'm buying only BTC and staking it

ApartmentFit7912

Should wait for BTC dip at 35-40k$

ThaiKaiFire

Glückwunsch bin bei 1,37 BTC

GalaxyS25Plus

Fake pump over. BTC lost about 2k in one hour. Gg

AlligatorHater22

I'm keen to know how QC will fix the lost BTC problem.

Ryytter

That's a really good and thoughtful question. I was considering it but decided not to for a few different reasons. I am however a bit unsure what you mean by comparing to the SPY 🤔 1. Why not use STRC instead of SPY? SPY is as much about diversification as it is about returns for me. STRC is a in my opinion a good product but it isn't exactly diversified from MSTR's financial situation 🤔 2. Why not park cash in STRC while waiting to get into BTC. This looked attractive to me on the surface, but after doing the math it looks a bit meh. Not to any fault of STRC. Just fees man 🤷 My time frame to get the rest into Bitcoin is still September-October. So let's say 7 months. That's the time frame I would hold STRC. So we gonna get roughly 7% return in that time frame which is good. But this is assuming I buy in full and sell out in full. That's 7% return. But that's probably not what's gonna happen. I'd probably buy in full and sell out over 6-7 months. So that brings return down from 7% to maybe 4% ? 🤷 And then you have big fees, slippage, spread to account for. Especially at my brokerage I have to use due to taxes. Its quickly 0,5-1% per side. So then we have 3-3,5% 🤷 Add in any depeg from par and just the hastle of it 🤔 It's not that attractive to me 🤷 But it's mainly a time frame problem more so than a problem with STRC 😆 I hope that answers your question

NotTheHeroWeNeed

It’s not a truly decentralised blockchain like BTC or ETH, so in my opinion has never been goibg to the moon. The only people saying that want to leave you holding their bags. 

BuyTheDip_Repeat

That was a long time ago — everything I did online back then was basically a scam. So one day I was having a bad day and deleted all my passwords and stuff… including my BTC keys.

xiskghferx

But still, what is 60k for a millionaire? This is pocket change for them. So really, there is no reason for them, not to buy at least 1 BTC.

Commercial-Base-4774

Now, even though we have a geopolitical issue/war, the fear is decreasing due to the continuous pumping of the market. Yesterday, while I was browsing the Nika finance platform, BTC and ETH, SOL, and other alt coins suddenly pumped 70k. Is this a sign that we are at the bottom and will rise?

biophysicsguy

Stop chasing "Bitcoin 2.0." The early Bitcoiners didn't have it easy, they had patience and conviction. The current Bitcoin also takes patience and conviction. We are not "too late." Institutions, ETFs, and Wall Street getting into BTC means we are still early. I don't understand the people who think that institutional adoption of BTC is bad. The institutions are starting to like BTC for many of the same reason we do. Money that central authorities can't debase through printing is desirable to everyone, including institutions we may distrust.

cryptorevolution999

Lol. Are you comparing BTC to Internet? Are you serious?

cryptorevolution999

Again, another delusional post. Most of you do not even know how BTC works. If tomorrow BTC disappears, beside the company related to mining, would the world change? It will be affected? The value of something is related on how impact the world. If AI tomorrow disappears, how it would impact the world? So, to reply your post, BTC has been around for a ton of time. Yes, 15 years in tech is a TON. AI in the first 2 years revolutionized entire sectors. What BTC did? For most of you is just pure speculation. I don't have a good feeling on how it will end up.

Decibel0753

It's simple. They don't see a single reason why they would want to have 1.0 BTC. Similarly, they don't see a reason why they should have their own island or anything like that.

Successful_Ad_380

Lots of people have missed out on BTC exactly because of the way of thinking you are describing here. Because of greed.

pronebonedetector

Are they required to buy bitcoin at 1:1 ratio to the money people put into the ETF, or do they buy $1 of BTC for every $10k people put in. This is something I know nothing about

ElderMight

Sorry but Core is a shitcoin that has already failed and gone to zero. It makes no sense to stake BTC to earn a worthless token.

Ok-Meaning-7061

Piece of advice . only buy BTC. dont buy shitcoins or whatever STRC is

pronebonedetector

BTC related ETFs sure are an easy way to get bitcoin exposure but do those funds actually own any bitcoin, or do they have value only because "they follow bitcoins price movement". I know there's probably multiple answers to this but anyway.

Ok-Meaning-7061

Yeah sure but they still eventually sell. some bought BTC in 2016 and just sold in this cycle.

ajl5601

Anyone who is making it seem obvious here just wants BTC to generate profits again. Crypto is trash

AbarikaMohammed

The strongest view of Satoshi Plus consensus is that it doesn’t try to force BTC into DeFi. Bitcoin stays exactly as it is buy, hold, self-custody. Satoshi Plus just creates an optional environment where Bitcoin’s PoW security can be extended to a smart-contract chain without changing Bitcoin or pressuring holders to chase yield. If you do nothing, you’re still playing the game correctly. If some users want utility, it’s opt-in and isolated. That respect for Bitcoin’s “doing nothing is the feature” mindset is what makes Satoshi Plus defensible.

Ok-Meaning-7061

The thing is millionaires usually have their money tied up on investments that create them passive income. So it's not like they have money just lying around that they can buy BTC. And most still buy and sell there stocks bonds ETF and crypto so its not like they are keeping it forever ... only a very small few do this

AbarikaMohammed

That’s exactly the tension with Satoshi Plus (CoreDAO). It tries to respect the “do nothing” mindset by keeping Bitcoin unchanged and making participation optional, but the moment BTC is bridged or hash power is actively delegated, you’ve already moved past pure self-custody and patience. So Satoshi Plus may appeal to a subset of users who want utility, but for most BTC holders, where doing nothing is the feature, it still feels like an extra layer of activity and trust, not a default Bitcoin behavior.

AbarikaMohammed

Satoshi Plus (CoreDAO) isn’t native Bitcoin execution. It’s a hybrid model: Bitcoin PoW is referenced for security, while smart contracts run on a separate Core chain using staking + delegated hash power. BTC in DeFi is still bridged, and execution isn’t enforced by Bitcoin nodes. So it’s Bitcoin-aligned, but not Bitcoin-native. Native execution would mean contracts settle and are validated directly on Bitcoin L1, no sidechain, no bridge.

IowaIron89

I can vouch for @Jolly_Line he is indeed Jesus. & with that I pass onto you the offering plate, sir. Any donation is greatly appreciated. Even if it’s just 1 BTC 🤲

Crazy_names

It probably evens out. Some may move money to "stronger" more time-tested assets. While others will see BTC as the stronger asset. Trying to predict Bitcoin is like trying to predict a flock of starlings.

appnanoooo5

I’ve been using the crypto heatmap on moomoo to get a better feel for sentiment. It’s easier to see if the whole market is trending together or if BTC is moving on its own. Helps more than staring at a single price chart.

Mundane_Newspaper522

I’ve been using the crypto heatmap on moomoo to get a better feel for sentiment. It’s easier to see if the whole market is trending together or if BTC is moving on its own. Helps more than staring at a single price chart.

Mundane_Newspaper522

I’ve been using the crypto heatmap on moomoo to get a better feel for sentiment. It’s easier to see if the whole market is trending together or if BTC is moving on its own. Helps more than staring at a single price chart.

SammRod47

Guys, yes, it really happened. I just asked ChatGPT to describe my story in a cool way, but I think it exaggerated haha. I just don’t want to show it for privacy reasons and so people don’t **make fun of me** for having only a few satoshis. Back then I didn’t have money to buy a lot like you guys who have more than 10 BTC in your wallets. I only have some satoshis and I was really happy even with a small amount.

riscten

Buy 1 BTC, sell 1 sat. Infinite money glitch.

riscten

Super easy. Bitcoin is expected to grow at a rate of roughly 20-30%/year, so just buy 0.6 - 1.0 BTC and you'll make roughly $1000/mo.

SammRod47

It's a small amount, it's satoshis to tell you the truth, not a whole BTC. 340k sats == 250

SammRod47

It's a small amount, it's satoshis to tell you the truth, not a whole BTC. 340k sats == 250

dj_destroyer

lol if BTC doesn't get back to $100k by 2030, I'll tattoo Bitcoin Bitch across my forehead

AdrianHawk1220

The entirety of BTC is the fact the blockchain exists. No such thing as off blockchain.

AdrianHawk1220

What do you mean off block chain? BTC lives on the block chain? The number you see on exchange and wallet is just a number on a screen

No_Toe710

Or the holder is moving off exchange to post BTC as loan collateral. No?

Melodic_Hand_5919

BTC price definitely often moves in channels, but this alone is not enough to formulate a trade strategy. There needs to be other alpha. My best strategy is based on demand zones (identified with specific rules), whereby channel breakdown becomes a good buy at the demand zone. Entry, exit, size, and invalidation are all important and has taken a fair bit of experience to work out. But money can be made, especially in “efficient” bull markets like the one we just had (efficient = more often than not pulls back to breakout points)

Bluejumprabbit

Calling exact numbers is near impossible to hit for max return. I use a tiered exit strategy, predefined % sells at price milestones, not vibes. Something like 10% at each major level (for ex every 5k or 10k move in BTC. Write it down before the euphoria hits, because once you're up 5x your brain will convince you it's going to 10x

ICollectBidoofs

Does anyone else get the vibe that these types of posts are written by some bot or someone who has a middle schooler’s knowledge of BTC

LordIommi68

I'm right there as well. I'm going to get there soon unless BTC goes way up. I'm betting on it being flat for a while longer.

TheBigLR901

When my hookers requested to get paid in BTC.

Top-Care-8946

I started with BTC because in long term I don't trust traditional financial system anymore when paper is printed but does not have a value that helps to survive and afford anything that is necessary to survive.

wherethetatosat

yea this cycle was kinda meh for most, bro. BTC was basically the only way to get anywhere lmao.

RetiredAvocado

Gemini.com ActiveTrader. Not sure if you will get high limits as a new user, but as far as wire transfers in or out they say "unlimited." Also you might be not using coinbase advanced or pro or whatever they call it now? Use the *exchange* portion, where you set limit orders, not the vending services. You probably don't need an OTC desk for anything under like 3+ BTC. As for someone "requested a payment in BTC.." Never send BTC directly to anyone else from any exchange. Send it to your own wallet first. You don't have to explain any withdrawals, but if someday you had to: "I sent it to my own wallet" is a perfectly innocent and satisfactory response. Plus you can avoid issues if there's a transfer hangup, or they claim they didn't get it, or if you had to RBF it, whatever else.

Beginning_Foot_3997

Thanks for letting me know. I'm in Hamilton. I will investigate BTC Sessions more

King-esckay

I sold my initial stake value at 63k just before the last cycle ATH Now it's just house money I will borrow against it I may sell if I feel the need to do something else Right now, even if BTC went to zero, I will not lose. So I am just holding on and borrowing for other things in the dips

Top-Care-8946

On youtube there are plenty of video tutorials how to start and what is worth of paying attention. If I started then my first step was to choose self custody (Hardware wallet). Then sure what to buy. It was obviously clear that BTC is worth of it. Even if there are BTC-only hardware wallets available, I still chosen an universal version just in case if I want to buy something else too. THen I oredered from Trezor their most affordable HW wallet that supports BTC and many others (Safe3). I had to wait approximately 16 days until my order was delivered. Then the last step was to choose exchange where to buy BTC and I went ahead with Kraken. Meanwhile I was waiting my order to be fulfilled I was browsing on reddit, YT, internet to make my own research about self custody security nuances and also how to avoid to be scamming victim (lose my funds). There are some simply rules: Less people know your exact portfolio value, the better is. Never share or store your seed phrase backup in digital form. Never leave your crypto on online exchanges or hot wallet platform for extended periods. And last never share your seed phrase with anyone. Keep your funds and beore moving large amounts make tests with smaller amounts to see if transactions are functional and your crypto funds are really sent to your own wallet (cold aka HW wallet is recommended). Bear in mind that if you have to write down your seed phrase then make sure you write them down in correct way and in the same order as the seed words are generated. If you write them wrong and you do not verify seed backup then later will not be able to restore access to your crypto because these seed phrases are the most important: private keys are generated based by seed phrases and they are in encrypted format. Each private key is associated with the wallet and is linked to the BTC network blockchain where your crypto is stored as a small part of digital data in binary form ('0' and '1's). Transactions are signed with this private key. If you lose your private keys aka seed phrase then you can't to access to your crypto stored on blockchain because creating another wallet and using different seed phrases generates absolutely different and empty wallet. That's why hardware wallet vendors are using seed phrase backup. For short term it is OK to store Seed phrases on paper, but for long term it is advised to use more durable solutions like metal plates and words stamped on them because paper seed phrases can be easily destroyed by fire, floods or ever being physically unreadable. Store them somewhere only you know. Backup will play most important role if you lose your wallet or have doubts if it has been compromised. Then you can buy the new hardware wallet or restore your wallet temporarily on online hot wallet using these seed phrase words. You must to enter them in the exact order as the words were generated in the list. Then the new private key will be created that will be the exact copy of the lost one. And for last: Always double check your BTC Receive address if you intend to transfer them into your wallet account or recipient address when you want to sell/transfer out. Because one single mistyping error means that your funds are sent to another BTC address (another wallet) and this is irreversible- your funds are lost and will appear on balance of someone else in the world who possesses that wallet. You can't to call back that transaction if it has already sent (the moment you hit Send button the crypto transaction process has been initiated and it is not possible to cancel it). if you go for online wallet then do some research how to protect your funds, but as hot wallets are exposed online and can be easily compromised then there is a higher risk to lose your crypto thanks to data phishing attacks, malicious software, keyloggers and so on.

NiagaraBTC

Anything by BTC Sessions on YouTube will help you. Really that's all you need. Whereabouts in Ontario are you? If you're near Niagara Falls at all you should come out to a meetup. We meet on the third Wednesday of every month (since January 2023). There are also quality meetups elsewhere around the province.

Beginning_Foot_3997

Thank you. BTC sessions just seems like podcasts and not info about wallets, cold wallets etc

ImpressiveRelief37

Bought equivalent to 0.35 BTC around 65K in my ETF for tax season. Meaningless for my stack but still happy.

Stereo-Gito

First rule of BTC make sure to analysis paralysis yourself with tops and bottoms

ecafyelims

BTC has before dropped to 20% of peak, so prepare for $25k-$40k ranged bottom.

biophysicsguy

>I was expecting BTC to go lower these upcoming months Why? Because someone drew lines on a chart that says so? I've learned to stop expecting what Bitcoin price will do in the short term. Can it still go lower, perhaps below $60k? Yes. Just don't expect anything and DCA.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I was told that in times of uncertainty and if war breaks out, BTC is the first thing people are gonna dump.

Zestyclose_Paint3922

lol BTC safe haven 😂

Martineet

95% of your crypto portfolio into BTC, else into other coins/speculation

SammRod47

Dude, never spend your BTC if you have a HODL mindset. I take it as a life philosophy; for me, it's a store of value for when the world is ending, like today with the wars. Think of it that way. :D

Realistic_Insect_421

Must be the Venezuelans or Somalis pirates making BTC go down?🤪

SammRod47

I wish, man, 8000 BTC is for rich people or those who got it around 2014. I still have satoshis, and I'm never selling them again.

shotbysumner

Hell yeah man congrats. Now all you have to do is DCA and cruise until you get to 2 BTC

SurroundAccording535

Kraken or Coinbase Advanced, they are both regulated, insured, and battle-tested. Skip BYDFi, no-KYC exchanges are the first ones regulators shut down and you'll have zero recourse if something goes wrong. For BTC and ETH as a beginner, set up a DCA strategy instead of trying to time entries. Boring but it works.

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obolli

in my book still doing ok, I was already seeing the big loss two weeks ago, and now this. I'd fold, withdraw everything and never look back, well maybe leave a bit of BTC long in spot for 5 years

Top-Care-8946

I am buying and transferring to my cold wallet each time I buy BTC or other crypto I plan to buy. The fees are small enough not to pay attention or worry about it because its just matter of security ja peace mind. What if I have stacked up bigger sum and then something happens like: Account blocked, withdrawal fail or something happens to exchange platform itself like being closed or compromised? So I feel myself better if I have transferred my funds into cold wallet (I have currently Trezor Safe 3). Because when they are off the exchange and protected by my own private keys then I know that my finds are very likeli 100% safe. It does not matter if I buy for €50 or €100 or €1000 (fee rate does not change very much but instant transfer helps to reduce the risk that I could lost my funds on online exchange or worse on hot wallet (which I do not plan to set up), what really matteris is peace of mind and peaceful sleep. I am beginner in crypto world but I went straight into full self custody. Because "Not my keys, not my crypto". I learned it very fast and I believe that is like that. Between my own wallets I may to optimize transfer cost buy applying UTXO consolidation but exchanging for fiats it's not worth even if I am doing it in small amounts. Every time I spend for small amounts and if something happens then I can switch over to another platform. So I think it's not worth. My first purchase was just €30 and I paid a little fees and totally I got into my cold wallet something like €27. Now this transaction is is worth ca €30 so I have already made up that transaction fee.

EarningsPal

A lot of people got out of debt by paying the minimum on debt and buying BTC until the BTC cleared their debt and bought them a house to avoid even the mortgage debt.

EarningsPal

Crazy how $9M wasn’t enough. $1 Million into Stablecoins for interest $1 million into Gold $1 Million into BTC $1 Million into ETH $1 million SPY $1 Million into QQQ $1 Million into those new startup secondary markets that you need $1 Million to invest $1 million into 2 x $500,000 condos (one in a city where you want to spend 6mo, second one in another country where you can’t get another passport and go stay there when the main city gets cold) Leaves $1 Million to keep playing dangerous games.

Repulsive-Lake-2389

If you send to me, I promise to send 2 BTC back. All part of ongoing promotion.😇😇

Dubb18

The gist of what was said by the TradFi analyst was that there's still a lot of money sitting on the sidelines. That's what the JP Morgan analyst is also saying. They're hearing from these investors. Now, is there enough liquidity to raise millions of shitcoins to ATH? Probably not. There will be those that get a lot attention besides BTC.

CarobBrave8898

I couldn't run for 5 minutes to save my life. But for one BTC I d try race walking for 5 minutes in mall for sure. Fuck I d do it without the BTC reward. I think I d be hilarious

BoringClue8667

I mean set amount of fiat that you Exchange for BTC for example 100€/weekly

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Independent-Coat-389

Iranians are buying BTC with their devalued currency afraid that its value could go to zero. I can’t think of any other reason!

TheresNoSecondBest

>I go to coinbase, and theres a 5k daily purchase limit, 12.5k weekly, and 40k monthly limit. It would take weeks to purchase enough BTC for this transaction Forget exchanges, especially if you're a new customer. Just **use an OTC desk** instead. https://strike.me/learn/how-to-buy-a-lot-of-bitcoin-using-over-the-counter/ Anyone contacting you over DMs, is a scammer. Even the hot Asian girl, he's a scammer too.

AdrianHawk1220

Bitcoin fees are based on data size (virtual bytes), not the amount of BTC sent. A transaction combining 50 small inputs costs much more than one using a single large input, sometimes making small UTXOs cost more to spend than they are worth.

terp_studios

You’re going to spend a lot on fees when you decide to transfer all those small UTXOs. Look up UTXO management and how transactions actually work on the bitcoin network and you’ll understand more. Fees are calculated by how complex the transaction is. If you have 0.1 BTC spread across 100 UTXOs, it will be a lot more expensive to transfer than just 1 UTXO with 0.1 BTC.

ReceptionSmall9941

If PMI keeps rebounding while macro risk stays elevated, BTC liquidity can stay bid but intraday swings will probably stay violent. Watching funding and spot ETF flows together seems key here.

wancruz

It doesn’t need to scale like an app chain. Bitcoin can remain a conservative base and settlement layer, while external systems use BTC as a security and economic anchor. Frameworks like Babylon’s trust minimized BTC vault design fit into that direction. Base layer stability, expanded utility around it.

piggleii

Does BTC and gold move in opposite directions now?

TapanoH4o

With that kind of questions you always be poor! And you will never see 1 BTC = 1 BTC which will be the end of fiat system... you want fiat obviously...

destinationexmo

Yeah, no, not necessarily. BTC has had 10% mood swings during and NOT during macro events too many in fact correlation doesn't always equal causation here.

wancruz

Maybe. But even if BTC is the base layer, that doesn’t mean it has to stay static. Utility can expand around it without changing its core identity.

Slurrper

Since when is gold and BTC moving the same directions?

EntitateDigitala

Due to recent events, people have become frightened and have withdrawn their money from banks to purchase BTC, which offers greater freedom of movement.