BTC

MC_SKWAIRD

Also, 4) don’t store more than 0.1-0.5 BTC on each wallet 5) keep them in a safety deposit box at the bank. 6) never tell anyone you own BTC Wallets are cheap, and deposit box is $99/year in my area. Good luck brotha

DontLook_Weirdo

They seem bearish because they didn't bother to look at why. Yeah, he broke his mantra.. but dividends have to get paid somehow, and he sold thousands and it barely even made a dent... Lol BTC is fine, and so is strategy.

igrokyourmilkshake

It's all built on trust. Freezing Satoshi's BTC will ruin BTC and likely crypto at large. If we actually develop the quantum tech capable of cracking wallets or mining more reliably, then no currency is really safe (among many other industries). I'd rather crypto fail and actually have the benefits of quantum tech than ruin it prematurely without having quantum tech. That's like asking for a divorce now because there's a possibility in a few years you'll meet and fall in love with someone else who's perfect and your spouse will leave you.

OneImportance4061

Buffett also said BTC is rat poison squared and he would not buy all of it in the world for $25.

SmartestMoth

I believe that there have been security improvements to Bitcoin wallets that make them less vulnerable to a quantum hack. Because Satoshi wallets predate this they are vulnerable. The worry is that the sudden spike in supply once these old wallets are hacked will crash BTC value

Vino1980

When we reach the next ATH, hopefully BTC will go all the way to $250k, then a lot of people will sell, while no-coiners will be envious and kicking themselves for not buying low. With all this selling and profit, many retailers/companies will create benifits/perks if you have BTC. Naturally BTC will go back down to, $125k and bring in a lot more people waiting for the next ATH.

Good_King9558

Good, 1 company owning a lot of BTC is not healthy

AlternativePut87

Appreciate you sharing your perspective. I just started buying into BTC recently - better late than never I guess!

AndyKJMehta

Is freeze effectively code running on at least 51% miners that deny movement of BTC from specific wallets?

Substantial_Shop_171

Sadly, there are viruses that do nothing other than look for wallets on your computer and drain them. They don't need the seed, they just do a basic send transaction from the wallet as if you did it yourself. Might be what got you. And you don't need to interact with a suspicious link or phishing email, they can hack a reputable site and infect you through it. Obviously most sites/companies have their own security and firewalls to prevent this, but not all, and none are completely secure. Even the CIA has been hacked. Why cold storage is so important for any amounts that are more than trivial or not being actively used. But do you see the transaction sending it out in your history? Because it can't just disappear, it has to be a transaction, that's part of the security of the whole network and why we say BTC can't be hacked, only the wallets and exchanges. If there's no transaction, including the ones you know about, then you might not have been drained, your wallet is just messed up. They can get screwy with updates and whatnot and do stuff like open to a different account or chain. But the virus could also do it, so don't get your hopes up yet. Create another with the seed and hopefully it will be there or the transaction draining/sending it will be. Conversely, if you have your public address, you can search it in a block explorer and will see all the transactions, including you funding it and the drainer. Then you can follow it to the hacker and report it to the police. However, most criminals are using mixers, so it could become a dead end, so don't get your hopes up on that. Good luck, hopefully with this and in the future.

ElPozonCgena

Don't waste your money on a shitcoin, buy BTC & SOL if you want to make real money

discussionandrespect

Decentralized means there’s not one singular entity with decision making power. If this were to happen it would happen democratically voted on by the thousands of developers who have worked tirelessly to make BTC what it is today. That sounds pretty decentralized to me.

Veganarchyst

Are you willing to live lean if the price drops or doesn't recover for a long time? Are you willing not to splurge or overextend yourself with toys and big houses when BTC goes way up, so you are prepared for when it "shocks" everyone again with how far it falls next? If you are okay being super frugal until your stack has 10x or 50x from where you are now Then yes, retire. Get the f- out of the grind

chuckrabbit

More money? Sure, to buy compute. But more BTC? No. That’s now how it works. More BTC does not give you more votes.

longonbtc

Which exchange is best for you depends on what country you are a resident of. I recommend buying bitcoin on [River](https://river.com/), [Strike](https://strike.me/), or [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) if these platforms serve residents of your country. When selling bitcoin you will pay the lowest fees by setting a limit sell on one of the big cryptocurrency exchanges. If you set up an automatic hourly, daily, weekly or monthly recurring purchase schedule on [River](https://river.com/), then River stops charging you fees after the first week. https://river.com/zero-fee If you set up an automatic hourly or daily recurring purchase schedule on [Strike](https://strike.me/), then Strike stops charging you fees after the first week. And if you set up an automatic weekly or monthly recurring purchase schedule on Strike, then Strike stops charging you fees after the first automatic purchase. https://strike.me/faq/how-do-i-set-up-a-recurring-purchase/ If you set up a daily, weekly, biweekly or monthly recurring purchase schedule on [Cash App](https://cash.app/help/us/en-us/31091-auto-invest), then Cash App will not charge you any fees. https://cash.app/bitcoin/fees You should also be aware that exchanges get to choose how much they want to charge their customers for withdrawing bitcoin from their platform. This fee is referred to as a bitcoin withdrawal fee. Some exchanges choose to overcharge a very high bitcoin withdrawal fee in order to generate more revenue and some exchanges choose not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee at all (meaning it's free to withdraw bitcoin). [Strike](https://strike.me/) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you choose the slowest option. [Cash App](https://cash.app/bitcoin) chooses not to charge a bitcoin withdrawal fee if you withdraw 0.001 BTC or more and you choose the standard speed option. [River](https://river.com/) chooses to give their customers one free bitcoin withdrawal per month.

Strongest-There-Is

CZ gets pardoned by Trump. Trump family buys tons of BTC. CZ convinces the community to freeze up Satoshi’s stash. Price skyrockets. Trump family and CZ cash out, laughing all the way to a 24 carat gold space ship to Moscow.

Majestic_Ebb9783

Ledger has worked well for me. I mainly care about security and keeping full control of my BTC for the long term. It's good to have a setup that's ready as more native BTC use cases emerge.

NeighborhoodPlane794

It’s probably the most obvious wallet for hackers to target, if someone gained access it would prove nobody’s funds are safe and the hackers would likely look to sell a significant amount. If such a thing were to happen, the loss of confidence in bitcoins security combined with the possible selling pressure of 1.1 million BTC would be a disaster for Bitcoins price in the short term and a disaster long term reputation and adoption

banananuhhh

Yup. With consensus you can change just about anything. This is why BTC can (theoretically) be 51% attacked.

Doritos707

Owners of BTC\*\*

VRtheNews

I read the comments. But I'm still not seeing how the crookery worked. How was it drained? My guess is that the OP accepted a malicious token into Phantom, that then got to the BTC. Or cookie-jacking the browser. Or using Windows, with a virus or malware getting to it. I really would like the OP to find out, we can learn from that. Secondly, what advice would you guys give to someone saving up BTC on a wallet? (Except using a cold wallet.) Maybe split it over several wallets (and of course not storing seed phrases on the same device)?

ReblWithoutApplause

ETH and BTC, yes

arveena

Doesnt matter if CRO or not this sub is completely useless for financial advice. They are gonna shit on your shitcoin but will praise nano and ADA in the same paragraph. Same for BTC price. If they tell you it will go up its probably gonna go down. I made a lot of passive income with CRO. But its obviously not a serious investment can it go up yes. Should you only invest what you are willing to loose also yes.

PrettyQuick

If you are gonna retire you should diversify your portfolio and lower your risk profile. You don't want to risk having to go back to work at 55. The easiest way would probably be to convert portions of your BTC into all world ETFs. Not as exciting as BTC but it's probably the safest bet on steady growth over a 30-50 year timeframe.

submarinefarm

Wrong. They sold 3,588 BTC.

DackNBills878

I get it, but look at how long that 58.2k was in, an hour tops not even? might not show on the daily chart. Basically point is: everyone ITT thinks BTC will go lower and bottom in Q4, waiting for 50k or 45k, I'm saying high chances they're wrong. We'll just have to see

Itchy-Acanthaceae841

Damn it. Years ago I really thought this and ETH are safe bets, guess there really is only one and that is BTC

nose_noticer

F NO. Try monero BTC LTC

buy_bitcoin_orwhatev

21m BTC / increasing money supply

Mak333

Okay, so this is great. You are 100% correct. However, I guess I'm what some exchanges call "Cross" positions? I'm on Coinbase, and my current account allows me to stay in this position until $50k BTC. I can add funds, which I have plenty of, to move the liquidation even further. From a position standpoint, yes, underwater 80%.

SeriousGreenA

BTC, XLM, ETH MINIMA will be everywhere as it is quantum resistant, fully descentralised and it can run from ARM to PC.

Local_Math_5512

It's pretty simple. I don't know why so many people struggle to understand it. In simplest form, MSTR sell's STRC for $100 each. They keep enough USD to pay 17 months of dividends ($17). MSTR uses the remaining $83 to buy BTC. Maintaining confidence in the instrument of STRC encourages more people to buy STRC. This raises more USD for MSTR to buy more BTC. Selling BTC to keep confidence in STRC means less BTC for MSTR in the short-term, but much greater BTC in the long term as STRC will continue to raise USD for further BTC purchases.

Loud_Adhesiveness172

Lol, what a simple method, and it offers a variety of customer options. However, if you only trade with BTC, the choices are very limited, and it seems like an attempt to evade taxes!

EmergencyClue5263

E' successa la stessa cosa anche a me questa notte. Un brutto risveglio questa mattina. Ho controllato nel mio "Google Authenticator" e la (2FA) era impostata. Secondo me come dice @[Healthy\_Ant\_6987](https://www.reddit.com/user/Healthy_Ant_6987/) ci dev'essere stata una violazione dall'interno, altrimenti non mi spiego come abbiano potuto creare un nuovo conto all'interno del mio account. La dinamica è stata la stessa: 1) Accessi vari da alcune parti del mondo, Svizzera, Filippine, Repubblica Ceca, Nepal. 2) chiusura di alcune posizioni. 3) Passaggio dei soldi sul conto Metatrader nuovo. 4) Conversione in BTC. Sono riusciti a prelevare il 60% dei miei fondi. Ho passato la mattinata a mandare e-mail al supporto "Vantage". Io sono Italiano, provvederò a fare la denuncia alla polizia e continuerò a pressare Vantage, sono loro che si devono preoccupare per primi dei loro clienti e dei loro soldi ! Fammi sapere come sta andando @[Kaliberrrr](https://www.reddit.com/user/Kaliberrrr/) !

Gr8WallofChinatown

1. BTC is not a safe haven to inflation. BTC is a result of excess liquidity 2. I never said a bubble burst would drive inflation and rate hikes. I said we are currently in increasing inflation and are on pace to see two rate hikes this year

quintavious_danilo

…but they also sold into a strong upward momentum, essentially eating up the negative sentiment. BTC still rose despite the news. This is bullish.

quintavious_danilo

It’s not about the guy, it’s about the market reaction which was basically zero, meaning even a bigger sell can’t put BTC or MSTR down, meaning they will both weather the bear market OK and come out gunning wild on the other end

Known-Application106

People love to cherry-pick timeframes to make BTC look bad. DCA from the 2018 bear bottom and you're up multiples. The whole point is you're buying an asymmetric asset — the downside from here is way smaller than the upside over a 4-year cycle. S&P is a great benchmark but comparing a 100-year-old index to a 15-year-old asset during a bear market is missing the forest for the trees.

Leownx

Get BTC or perish. You don't need your government permission for anything related to Bitcoin once you have self custody.

lonnie123

When he sold a few BTC a couple weeks back there seemed to be an outside dip related to it Make of it what you will but many considered one of the biggest, most vocal BTC bulls on the planet selling BTC to be a sign of his bullish sentiment running out

lambdasintheoutfield

I really am starting to think this subreddit is the best technical indicator for BTC price 😂

picklepasttimes

BTC. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're wrong.

LionRivr

Ever heard of buy the rumor, sell the news? Well this time it was sell the rumor, buy the news. MSTR having to sell a bunch of BTC was the rumor. Rumor was priced in already. So confirmation of selling is actually good news.

God_Hand_9764

*Almost* beating the S&P is a pretty pitiful outcome when you consider all of the massive downside risk that we assume by buying into something like BTC. But let's see where it's at in a few years.

Arijan101

Yeah, Viagra was meant to treat heart disease, but that's not what it's used for. So yeah, what BTC was meant for is completely irrelevant, it's just a speculative asset people buy because they hope the line will go up and to the right forever. That's really all there is to it.

ThknGpeLvr

Fortunately I was involved and around future founders back in 2011. Alts only exist as a way to acquire more BTC. 15yrs and 100% still applies. I thank those founders everyday for telling me the truth that far back.

FortuneFirst8820

I think it just comes down to the basics. Are you healthy? If so, that’s vastly more important than any BTC. Are you physically any different than before you lost the Bitcoin? Has anything in your day to day life changed? It sounds like you were in a position to accumulate a bit of BTC by working very hard, but it doesn’t sound like losing that BTC has had any real impact on your life beyond the obvious stress. When something like this happens to me, I intentionally do things I know I wouldn’t have done if it didn’t happen. Example is if I’m not going to workout one day, I’ll think of that and then decide to workout. Or call my mother to check in. Or give an unhoused person a couple bucks, or just do nice things that you might usually overlook or forget to do. Eventually you’ll get to a point where you realize none of that would’ve happened if you hadn’t lost the BTC. Or, butterfly effect type thinking, where you realize the next really big good thing that happens to you (meeting wife, having child) wouldn’t have happened if you hadn’t lost the BTC.

Lacklusterspew23

Yes, but the surge over the next 2-3 months in BTC to 100k will work for MSTX, and then we can flip it to MSTR to avoid long term decay. Some caculators show MSTR is trading at less than 1.0 NAV. MSTX vs buying a 2-3 month option or trading at leverage is likely superior given my expectation we will be at 80-100k in 2-3 months. I cannot wait for all of the people claiming the bottom will be in Oct. to cry when we are over 100k at that point. Not investment advice. If you buy or sell anything based on my post, not only are you regards, but you will lose everything. So, I'm not telling you to do anything.

genius_retard

> I don’t have to worry about losing my keys, hackers, FYI if the ETF's custodian gets hacked of loses their keys your investments will not be covered. Your investments are insured against the brokerage bank (Questrade, Wealthsimple, TD Direct, etc.) going bankrupt but the ETFs themselves are not. I have started diversifying my BTC ETF holdings among several funds that use different methods of custody (Gemini, Coinbase, and self custody) and making sure they all carry their own insurance.

genius_retard

The advise I give people is when the amount of BTC you have is enough that you would be very upset if you lost it, it's time for a hardware wallet.

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braamdepace

It’s a battle between Rich vs Saylor. BTC is just the battle field.

Typical-Snow3034

Hey! I’d treat this as two separate things: the legal sale process and the Bitcoin payment flow. For the legal side, you still want proper documents, escrow/notary guidance, and clear wording on how the BTC price is agreed and settled. For the payment side, both sides need to understand the address, timing, confirmations, and what happens if the price moves before completion. Once the BTC is received, the next practical question is how you’ll actually manage it afterwards: hold it, send part of it, exchange some, or use it for payments. That’s the part where CoinRabbit can fit naturally, since wallet, exchange, send/spend tools, and human support are together in one app.

kokanee-fish

I do think you would initially see a crater of almost everything remotely related to computers, but after selling off people will be searching for a new place to park their cash to fight inflation, and my bet would be that a lot of people decide crypto is a part of that portfolio. So while BTC would dive initially, I think it will outperform on the recovery. Curious why you think a bubble burst would drive inflation and rate hikes -- I see this scenario as being stagflationary to disinflationary.

Anonimo1sdfg

Los que históricamente han estado siguiendo subiendo con máximos nuevos, los demás en mi opinión son una basura, no tienen valor ni tienen negocio que produzca dinero. BTC es la excepción, claramente, por sus fundamentos. Mira estas monedas: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/s/tYEEsIK6Ea

Sufficient-Tomato518

What is the point of selling BTC, if he has $ 2.55 B in USD reserves?

_Ulot_

This is exactly why I think people should separate the politics from the products they use. Regardless of who passes regulation, users still need to do their own due diligence and manage risk. Personally, I keep most of my BTC in cold storage, but I leave a small portion on a CeFi platform like CoinDepo to earn passive yield instead of letting it sit idle. Diversifying custody has made more sense to me than relying on any single narrative or institution.

zooka19

Selling 25 Bonds for more BTC. This is the way.

CatPeopleBleaux

I was buying ETH at $9 and been part of it the entire ride so I'm fully aware of history. I feel like the way you talk about crypto, you are bitter about losing money on it or some shit. Most people who just sit around talking about Saylor going to jail and BTC at $10k are just haters. There are like 3 or 4 companies larger than MSTR from a holdings standpoint so yeah, some crazy shit would have to happen for BTC to hit $10k, much less sustain that level for over 6 months. But as soon as MSTR sells a couple thousand BTC, yall coming streaming out with the, "durrrrr, Saylor sold 1% of their holdings, he's def going to jail". Yall been doing this for years. My favorite part though is people thinking that MSTR doesn't have literal geniuses working there who are leveraging AI, data analytics and intel to predict markets or....at the very least, run scenarios on what happens at every level of pain is just fucking hilarious to me. They're a 35 yr old, US based company with $55B in holdings. They aren't a bunch of strung out 20 yr olds playing with monopoly money during COVID in Singapore or the Caymans.

theincognito66

MSBT has only 0.14% annual fee for their ETF that does the same thing as IBIT. I prefer owning actual BTC, but I also like to throw this info in where I can. DYOR - there are cheaper ETFs that do the same thing

Arijan101

What BTC was created for, and what it has evolved to be in reality are 2 separate things. It's nothing more than a speculative asset today.

dj_destroyer

Here's the thing, and no offence, but Saylor and the Strategy execs are smarter than you or I. Their earnings call actively state how they will sell creatively in order to harvest tax losses or to lock in gains -- both in an effort to increase BTC per share.

w1a1s1p

Do you have money to eat? You have a roof over your head? You are healthy? You are loved? Everything else is arbitrary, you will recover it tenfold, also if BTC is going to zero and we are in a death spiral the recovery will be cheaper

Sad-March-2358

Now, Saylor not buying BTC.

Sad-March-2358

BTC, Eth and Gold

el_rico_pavo_real

AI kind of cooling and BTC holding up decently well. Hope this Japan Yen Carry trade meltdown isn’t as bad as their cryptic Tweets make it seem.

HSuke

Tbey only sold $216 million BTC. That's only 5% of what they were planning to sell. This is far from over.

bbk13

If I was a Bitcoin millionaire, or even hundred thousand-aire, because of something I forgot doing more than 10 years ago I'd be bragging about it to everyone. It would be like winning the lottery but with the added benefit of being able to pretend I was actually just really smart and had incredible foresight. Unfortunately I never took the next step and bought the BTC. I definitely made the wallet when BTC were under $1000.

baIIern

Is that Japanese money even relevant for the Bitcoin market? Saylor is selling more BTC than the Japanese do

moviemaker2

No, it's overkill for banking passwords because a bank account and a crypto wallet are fundamentally different. 1. The bank is the custodian of the funds you deposit there. You are the custodian of your BTC wallet. If you want someone else to be the custodian of your BTC, that's what exchanges are for. 2. If your banking credentials are compromised, you can change them. 3. You should also have 2FA enabled with your bank, so even if you did accidentally share your username and password, that's not enough for an attacker to access your account. 4. Even if an attacker drains your bank account, that money was still verifiably legally yours, it can be recovered. 5. It's harder for a clipboard read attack to steal banking credentials, because you're not usually copying your username and password at the same time. If a script did recognize a password, it wouldn't automatically be able to know what it was to. Seed phrases are a standard pattern of words; they're easy for a script to recognize and that's all you need to have complete control of the wallet.

blur04

BTC obviously HBAR ALGORAND XRP XDC XLM

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RKrugel

This really sucks, sorry to hear! Recovery will take time. If you stop now and don't start over, you'll likely complain that you should have invested/stacked when BTC hits all-time highs again. Always move to a cold wallet, even if it's only a fraction of your portfolio.

Favelie123

Everyone has a different investment strategy, but I personally like keeping most of my BTC in cold storage while allocating a small portion to earn yield. CoinDepo is one of the platforms I’ve been researching for that purpose. Diversification and risk management are important.

Yoloballsdeep

Selling at 60k is better than selling at 10k. Saylor has been religiously buying BTC since the price of BTC was $11.6K not 120K. This shows that buying bitcoin is a shitty investment to begin with.

UrbanGrower187

Some people are acting like 3,500 BTC was a panic sale. Strategy still holds **840,000+ BTC** selling less than **0.5%** of its stack is financially insignificant. Michael Saylor still owns around **17,000 BTC** personally. If anything, improving liquidity while keeping virtually the entire Bitcoin position intact makes the company better equipped to weather any prolonged downturn. That’s risk management, not a loss of conviction kinda funny how so many ppl though ETFs and one corporate company is holding BTC up just confirms how deeply people are looking into the network.

derbyfan1

Strictly BTC

sushi_plots

BTC stack a coldcard

letsdrinktothat

Interesting - the product page indeed shows up to 0.02% APY unbonded/0.04% bonded, but then in the "Why you should strike BTC on Kraken" section, it says "In return, you can earn up to 1% annually on your BTC holdings". I don't get it.

Nice_Material_2436

Of course it about the BTC price. Nobody cares about how much BTC they have, all they care about is how much they can sell it for because you can't do anything with a BTC besides trying to sell it to the next fool.

BrokenHefaistos

Lol, some memer we yet have to discover, remeber BTC used to be for small scum...drug dealers...now it's from big scum bankers and YUGE PEETUS

OldHamburger7923

I bought the Jade Plus, didn't open it immediately. Months later I open it and the right button is sticky, it doesn't depress half the time. Super pain in the ass to use. If the hardware wasn't so cheaply made, I would recommend it. But I also had Trezor issues, with the device I had dying after a firmware update. I won't even get into Ledger issues - recommend them the least. If I were buying again right now, I'd look for something with BTC only, a keyboard, and known for solid hardware. Not sure if there is much that matches all 3, but should have something that matches at least 2.

Enrrabador

BTC

Bogdanoff_dump_it

My long term hodl conviction coins are BTC, ETH and SOL. No memes, low caps or shitcoins for me

Enrrabador

Unfortunately, it’s gone. You can flag the wallet so that when they cash out you get their details but bandits are smart, they will coinjoin the BTC and move it around so the trace gets lost, even if you do happen to understand who this person is, getting your BTC back will be nearly impossible

Fortune_Donut7432

I'd get some ETH also. It is quite low right now, it will go way higher soon. So get some ETH, some BTC. You'll have a great return during the next bullrun.

Rshellnizzle

I have a Trezor, it works fine and I’ve never had a problem with it. Do research on what you want and know that you don’t necessarily need a hardware wallet there’s other methods to secure your BTC.

AnxiousIndividual606

Kept my keys on a piece of paper in my safe . And I transferred my BTC from exchange to phantom because I saw stuff about not keeping ur money on exchanges . But yeah will definetly get a hard wallet in future if I can manage to stack up again 

whisperedstate

BTC generates zero yield, why should anyone get anything for depositing BTC on a platform? There is no lending market outside of leverage trading and that is fractions of a percent at best. You're much better off incentivizing stablecoins as a platorm, where you can actually get yield.

unknowngloomth

I hope he takes BTC back to 16k 😈

unknowngloomth

Is that your arguement? Lmaooo which is funny because I hold BTC too the worst performing asset for 1 year whereas my S&P, and some ETFs been blowing BTC out of water. You fucking loser. Keep putting your eggs in one basket. I will keep diversifying. We aren't the same.

aaj094

Anyone understand why Kraken's 'BTC staking using Babylon' has such a pathetic low apr of 0.02% (paid out in BABY tokens)? Like, what even are they thinking offering something as ludicrous like that? Got to have some decent proposition for anyone to consider depositing btc on a platform.

unknowngloomth

You know what it's comedy gold? BTC is down about 50% from its ATHs whereas this one alt I've been holding for 1 year now is only down about 7% . In other words, BTC is down about 42% for 1 year whereas the alt I've been holding for 1 year is up about 79% for 1 year. If I listened to maxi BTC tards. I'd be missing out gains.

Aseira

BTC is the best bet long term. ETH if you like more risk. I wouldn't touch anything else.

Novel-Common-3547

Talking about future, we have to take into account a possibility of crypto space being more and more (if not fully) integrated into current financial systems. With that in mind, big financial institutions would probably go with ISO compliant cryptos. Those are mainly XRP, ADA, XLM, MIOTA, ALGO, HBAR, XDC and QNT. Will BTC be around? Well, probably yes. Being the biggest now, being considered a store of value “like gold”, it will probably be with us for many many many years. Big players like ETH and SOL have big and great communities behind them. But, I am honestly not sure if that is enough, if cryptos become integrated. I think they would, if not being ISO compliant, lose its value. Interesting, tho very speculative, is Worldcoin. Sam Altman being one of the creators and Peter Thiel being one of the primary financial backers, who knows what can happen.

Monster213213

What’s the point of having hundreds of billions of dollars of BTC if no one believes you’ll ever sell it - for profit, to protect your equity, or for dividends They believe it now.

rankinrez

The actual level of buy support in real dollars for BTC is relatively thin. Selling large amounts of it for dollars will influence the price. Simple as.

Syrion1984

I've been around for long enough to not really get panicked by anything anymore at this point. All I see with these sells are possibilities to strengthen my holdings on the dip. Been doing it for years now and will continue to do so until I acquire enough BTC to become financially independent.

Old_Network1961

BTC. For anything else I am not sure...

sarcastic_bastard

Only BTC and thats a big if.