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OneFourtyFivePilot

You buy BTC every frickin day?

Exotic_Leek6738

This crash had nothing to with BTC. It was a USDX error that liquidated everyone with collateral leverage. Horrible, but not a BTC or ETH issue. What happened: • USDX, issued by Stable Labs, lost its $1.00 peg on November 6 2025 and fell as low as ~$0.30–$0.60.  • The drop came after a liquidity shock when a Balancer V2 vault exploit drained USDX/sUSDX-related funds.  • USDX was used as collateral in various DeFi lending protocols (e.g., Lista DAO, Euler) and abnormal borrowing rates (e.g., 800% + APY) were observed, indicating under-collateralized risk exposure.  • As USDX’s market value collapsed, many positions using USDX as collateral became under-collateralized and were automatically liquidated. Some protocols executed flash loans to liquidate millions of USDX and recover other assets (e.g., Lista DAO liquidated ~3.5 million USDX to recover ~2.9 million USD1).  ⸻ Why the liquidation cascade occurred: • A synthetic stablecoin design (USDX) depended on hedged positions and liquidity, not simply fully-backed fiat reserves. When liquidity evaporated, the peg broke.  • Because USDX was widely integrated into lending collateral, when its value dropped, that triggered cascading liquidations across protocols that accepted it as collateral. • Lending protocols reacted by dumping collateral (USDX) and seizing positions, which further depressed USDX’s value — a feedback loop. • The sudden loss of confidence led holders and protocols to withdraw or reduce exposure rapidly, accelerating the cascade.

ilfollevolo

I think the entire world must pray that BTC does not come short on the expectation because the collapse that will follow will be “species endangering” level

CheesecakeIcy3023

It will go up again. 1 BTC = $500k in 2030. If you don't believe it, then you're not gonna make it.

esohseekayes

💯💯💯💯been buying almost every single day the last few weeks. My average is well below anywhere near where we're currently at anyway because I've been in crypto for so long so I'm actually raising my BTC average every buy but who cares. This is a long term play.

MakCapital

Yes, and can go much lower too. It's also going to 10x. Get excited for the gifts the market provides. Things don't go straight up and more than 50% corrections are standard. All major assets have large corrections. Meta recently crashed 75% before 8xing. This is how markets work. Designed to shake you out. That doesn't mean we will see as large pullbacks in this bear, but all these numbers are possible. DCA on the crashes and be happy you get better buys. Only L1s people still use: - Bitcoin - Ethereum - Solana - Hyperliquid Of those only BTC is valued as a true SOV and Solana & Hyperliquid are scaling revenue with Hyperliquid currently bringing insane rev back to investors. Position accordingly.

PaulblankPF

On chain metrics shows that it’s mostly 1+ year long hodlers that are selling. That means a lot of new bagholders are being created. They will hold the bag as long as more news that sounds bullish keeps coming out and cycled around. Long term holders will sell each bump up as it makes a staircase downwards. My guess is around 65k it’ll find some support. Leverage is killing people for sure out there but it’s not the main source of the dump, it’s smart money getting out and being smart about it. Bulls will watch accounts worth 150 million turn into 30 million and still hold and believe it’ll go back up but in the history of all speculative assets they have all crashed out eventually. It’ll never go to zero because there will always be believers that will hold no matter what imagining 1,000,000 a coin but the % growth has slowed each cycle significantly and in the past 5 years you’d have seen almost 1000% more growth out of just investing in Nvidia than BTC (BTC 370% growth, NVDA 1250% growth). BTC is barely outpacing other blue chip stocks over the past 5 years and they aren’t speculative and require a Ponzi scheme to go up and have real earnings and growth. At this point it’s better to just go with a diverse portfolio than all in BTC. Long gone are the days of BTC going from a fraction of a penny to tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

718Brooklyn

Anyone who doesn’t think that quantum computing is going to either end BTC or at the very least scare institutions out of it, are fooling themselves. When the founder of Ether says it’s game over in 5 years, people should listen to him.

martianfrog

"M2 index hitting an all-time high" <- is this where it is now? has BTC lost correlation with M2?

Choobtastic

I’m buying more, BTC is on sale!!!!!

VariatCA

I'd have to do some serious digging in the charts' history books, and of course results vary based on what "time" a 24/7 market closes each day, but if closing time is 00:00 UTC, that marks the 10th consecutive red day in a row for BTC. I can't remember a worse streak. The closest might be all the way back in June '22.

Ikki_The_Phoenix

The market rewards narratives. This cycle the narratives were ETFs, AI, DePIN, privacy, memes. What do you mean a few alts? Many AI alts outperformed BTC short term.WLD, FET AI, memes such as Fartcoin too and many other memes, also, HYPERLIQUID did a 16x, Aster, privacy coins such as Zcash did a 26x, Monero did a 2x Monero just didn't more because it's not listed onto tier 1 CEXs, the QuBIC attack on Monero was bullish news to Monero.. but in the long run just BTC wins.

BizDev1

Hey OP imo you should just HODL. Been into BTC since 2013. Bought at all possible levels when everyone were sure its going down to where it started in its debut. Believe in this and be a long term holder. Do not sell in panic. You will make fresh money. So just buy more at lower levels and hold tight. You will see the reversal sooner than later. With all the institutional adoption coming in, BTC may shoot up pretty quick. Also check out the liquidity on exchanges thats drying up fast, not to mention many a wallet thats possibly lost its keys. Scarcity will create huge demand and we can see it happening. Currently the markets may be manipulated and panic selling now will hit your bottom line and maybe your morale. Do not succumb. Not now, not later. You are one of the few individuals with a full BTC. A RARITY these days. Remember no one can time the markets. Fundamentals are very strong and buying BTC at any price point will always stand to benefit you in the mid term to long term. My 2 cents. Not financial advice. Please DYOR. good luck.

Dmarine999

Safe for exchanging fiat for BTC and vice versa. "Safe" for holding...... Probably okay from a security perspective, but you don't have control over your assets in the event of government seizure order (likelihood depends on the country in which you live). Also, the bigger the exchange, the larger the target for hackers. For me, short term storage until I can transfer to my own wallet.

cjnkns

UGH, of course I switched jobs and transferred my 401K into Fidelity BTC. at 120K .. FUUUUCKKK

Y0l0BallsDeep

What makes you think that? Unlike any other bank MSTR can't create money out of nothing. Eventually he’ll have to repay the money he owes his creditors—principal plus interest—or keep rolling that debt over. On top of that, he has ongoing obligations to shareholders and all the operational liabilities that come with running a business. His entire model is built on leverage. And leverage means borrowing Asset A to buy Asset B. If the value of Asset B (BTC) drops far enough to violate loan-to-value thresholds, creditors will demand that he post more collateral. If he can’t, they’ll liquidate the position. There’s nothing mystical about it. It really is that simple. Don’t get distracted by the bullshit Michael Saylor pumps out to keep the narrative alive.

Comprehensive_Tip310

Go check out the 2017 march BTC crash. Look at what happened immediately afterwards. It was the last major, and strongest correction of the BTC 2018 bull run. Everyone was acting just like they are now. Worse even. Shortly after that dip from 1800 to like 1100, we went to 20k in a few months. Stop stressing brim. If you put your cards in places that aren't gambles, there's no need to worry. And if the entire financial system collapses. You want to be in the hardest money there is. BTC. Also, if smart money is buying, and you're panicking, You've lost the script. Price doesn't matter. USD is going to zero. Price everything in BTC and forget the rest. https://preview.redd.it/rw65xv7l3i2g1.png?width=1440&format=png&auto=webp&s=8841e2ebce9a28161613ff25b74971daf82b32eb

kraghis

If the BTC algorithm is broken won’t that mean all traditional infrastructure would be broken as well? Serious question

hammerscribe98

It obviously makes sense math-wise to sell high and buy low no matter how you muddle it with your DCA or whatever. The problem is you don’t know that it won’t change direction the second you hit the sell button. If you could be certain, why not sell all of your BTC and buy back in at 60k? Hell, why don’t we all do that?

SendMeAGoodSong

I really can't remember what influencer or video I saw, but it's you vs everyone else, it's a war-field, instructions, retail, random hedge funds, crypto multimillionaires, it's a digital take and grab. Look at me in my face and tell me that's not the casw and it's "chart" "price" "mkcp" "leverage". It's just a bunch of humans, taking hungry hippo with other humans. If BTC is SOO valuable (~2.~T) and our collective humanity has a stock valued at 6.~. And Bitcoin keeps swinging and wiping out money left and right, making people fomo, remembo, think differently about investing since the ever glamour of ***digital encryption coin***. Just put two and two together, pick a price, ride it up, ride it down. If it goes to 300-500 or 850- a milly in 10 years. Who are you to say you'd even be healthy enough or alive. We are ALL on some inner and monologued PvP server right now. Humans are NOT at peace and you all forgot psychology 201 where you heard a snippet of "They want you to think you haven't turned but have but not". Actually funny. And immensely sad.

devCheckingIn

This is the time of the day where alts double-dump to catch up to BTC's daily losses.

Gumbi_Digital

I’ve bought at least 10 BTC back in the day when I’d get great acid and shrooms off of Silk Road….most expensive drugs I’ve ever bought.

chewyjackson

My dad, who moved a majority of his retirement funds over to BTC between 86-110 is sweating bullets right now.

FairClassroom5198

Got to be delusional BTC is not emerging tech, its 20 years old. Youre never going to make money of this like the real early buyers did.

NinjaChore

When 20k BTC?

GabeDef

Completely false. XRP has out performed BTC and ETH since November 16, 2024. If you purchased $80k of XRP on 11/16/24 (that last time it was a $1) - you would be $62,000 in profit still. If you bought $80k of BTC on 11/16/24 you would be at about -$4000 loss, and if you bought $80k of ETH on 11/16/2024 you would be at about a -$7500 loss.

RizzleP

I spent my BTC on The Silk Road 2. Sigh.

drifterlady

I got my letter from barclays before BTC hit $125k. All banks globally are getting on board with such rules. And exchanges are hooked up to HMRC/IRS now and have been for a while. It's not good.

OnlyCollege9064

I'm 40% down on my ALTS and I consider myself not to be too bad. I can't keep pouring money into them though, I need to keep money to buy BTC. I'd love to be OEing right now.

ForowellDEATh

Then you hear from each corner; buy bitcoin, bitcoin is future and see big amount of people entering crypto it’s best sign to sell or short. Then you hear: BTC doomed, crypto is scam, it’s the end! It’s the best sign to buy.

Interesting-Sink-284

Just hold BTC long term (10+ years). 95% of traders loose money. Trading works until it doesn’t. Markets change. Your psychology can fail. Many risk factors involved. Statistically you can only make money in the market by investing long term. This is slow but has always worked. Keep in mind loosing it all can happen quick if you are trading. If you insist on trading risk management is key. Try to loose as little as possible.

FibonacciBoy

Lmao it’s not copium. Because in the first cycle the same people were saying this. Who was right ? The bears who said it will go to 0? Or the moon boys who thought BTC can reach 100k?

Simke11

If you bought BTC a year ago after it had gone up few hundred precent in space of less than 2 years, you were asking to be exit liquidity.

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bbrout

Question: Are people selling stocks and BTC, converting to USD and fleeing?

tomsmac

Those are my two as well buddy. He can start making up for it by announcing that the U.S. will buy 1 million BTC within the next five years. Have to think he’s going to do something like this after his new ETF just bought a couple of billions worth. That and those evil spawn of his.

Suspicious-Skill1934

Crypto is different of BTC, everythings (99.9%) except than BTC will go probably to zero. May be some project that is useful (i mean really used in real usecase) will pass throught the filet.

cincy15

Black Friday deals on BTC

vertigo42

16 and 20 are 20% off from each other my guy. BTC usually reaches about 70% of its value.

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PsyOmega

The sheer amount of $3 BTC i spent on silk road acid... No regrets though. Those trips were priceless.

BrunoNFL

Thanksgiving is right around the corner and people are going to judge them for having BTC and it being “dead” because it dropped 15%.

corplaw100

I know, that’s why I called that out. I think a lot of focus on BTC is on short term price action. Over the past year it’s become more difficult to find correlations.

SaiyanPride_45

These are the posts we should be seeing... Not all these crazy ass people who dumped every single penny they owned into BTC at the top. Lol

GabeDef

Nah. It’s my fault. I bought a ton of MSTR and then BTC shit the bed. Unfortunately, I’m going to buy even more MSTR to average down… so, I’m sorry for the next dump.

SophonParticle

I DID say the same when I held at $38k. I still have that BTC.

cryptosage

Dude sold 11 THOUSAND BTC. Not 11. lol

lordofmetis

High volatility in BTC often stems from its relatively small market capitalization compared to traditional assets. For instance, imagine global traders flocking to small-cap stocks like RKLB—these assets are prone to sharp price swings due to limited liquidity and speculative trading. Similarly, BTC’s current volatility is amplified by its niche status. However, as BTC’s market value grows significantly, its liquidity will increase, and its price movements will stabilize. This is because a larger market cap makes it harder for individual trades or events to cause extreme fluctuations, similar to how major currencies like the USD or EUR exhibit lower volatility due to their widespread adoption and massive market size.

bkx90

i bought hundreds of BTC in 2013 to buy stuff on the black market. Yeah.

Due-Papaya-6217

Why would you leave BTC? You can get a heir transplant in Turkey SMDH

SpontaneousDream

Alts are cooked, have been cooked, and will continue to be cooked. Idk how anyone can rationalize buying them over daddy BTC

Selmemasts

They own $57b in BTC, has $8b in debt that is due in 2028 and $8b in credit that doesn’t come due. It’s a long way to liquidation.

foot_bath_foreplay

Look... We've arguably been in a bull market with brief exceptions for the entire duration of my life. I am by nature a gay bear - I see underlying value, I see market cap diverging and it makes me feel like everyone is stupid & the market is just hype, greed and fantasy. None the less, number go up. The major downturns have been '20, '08, '99, and '87. Each one could have been bad for a long time. But they weren't - not for equities anyways. For the real economy, sure. If we have a real, strong correction here, that would increase my confidence in a 5-year time horizon. We need it. Things *should* get some selling pressure, and the bullshit companies faking their way through need to be culled. Looking at you, CVNA. Most professionals in finance have at this point come to the consensus that Bitcoin is here to stay... I mean, I didn't touch it at $10, I thought it was silly and ephemeral. I thought that block chain would be important for banking, but that it's use would be limited to stable-coins and related things. People like me have admitted we were wrong. And the theoretical price ceiling for BTC is so astronomically high that... It's worth the risk. By all means diversify - every portfolio should be thoroughly diversified unless you are consciously gambling. But I really don't think this fire-sale is anything more than a discount. Could it drop to 50? Yeppers. Does it matter on a 5+ year time scale? Not really. I would *definitely* not sell if I was at a loss, and if I sold now I would be hunting for a new entry.

spirax919

If Kamala was president BTC would still be stuck at 58k you jackass lefty lmao

SimpleMoonFarmer

In fact, OGs are dumping the most, some people say it is "the IPO moment for BTC." They may be buying mansions, lambos, and nice things; but BTC is still the best asset to own.

Ikki_The_Phoenix

Unless you're a masochist you become a BTC maxi.

Quickevery1panic

I always love to come back to this subreddit during larger pullbacks to remind myself how idiotic people are in here. Some of you (probably bots) still get shaken up by shit that we’ve seen over and over and over again that shouldn’t bother most who understand Bitcoins true purpose. Calling for 30k BTC and the infamous scam accusations never gets old.

Swapuz_com

The Terminator isn’t saving humanity. He’s buying BTC on the cheap. It’s meme compression where mission tightens into buy.

prod7teen

same shit happens every single dip or correction. doomers take over when it goes down, bulls take over when it goes up. everything all over reddit & CT just want to be the guys that say “i told you so”. just whole bunch of jackasses trying to chase the narrative. NO ONE knows what it’s gonna do. BTC usually does what everyone least expects. it likes to throw you a curveball. if you’re in it for the long run, just sit on your hands and stfu.

wow247897

BTC dipping below 100K was common sense and not a prediction... you should be happy we are dipping like this if you did in fact take those profits otherwise you would be stuck bag holding and be upset

SuckMyR0cket

Im traveling internationally at the moment preventing me from transferring funds and buying more BTC. This tells me by the time I get to my destination and settle in the price will have bounced back. How do I know this? I could not be so lucky 😂

rhazux

It's not income tax. It's capital gains tax. The government could absolutely automate your income taxes, and chooses not to. The government cannot automate your capital gains taxes. Especially when you can decide to self-custody your own BTC wallet for an indeterminate amount of time. Your example of transferring to an outside wallet can never be automated. It's 100% impossible to do what you described. The exchange does not have a means of determining which human owns which BTC wallet. And there's certainly no official or legal government framework.

MrRoyal420

I NEVER wander into Crypto and I couldn't help but pick up a little BTC at this price.

RetiredAvocado

Sparrow or Electrum. No ads. Exchange depends on country. No linking. You send BTC out of exchange to one of your wallet addresses. They will set the fee. You set your own transaction fees when sending. Use mempool.space to see what the next block fee range is estimated to be and go just above lowest. Practice restoring from backup. Do not leak, lose, or give away the backup.

Pasukaru0

So what? That means people were able to buy 11K BTC from him. And the last ones even at a discount. I don't see the problem. That's how markets work. If nobody sold, nobody could buy either.

FrenchFryNinja

While its not forever, The S&P 500 has a really good run. BTC is kind of a proxy for the whole crypto market. Its rare that alt-coins have a bull run when BTC does not.

ReDeaMer87

Guys. Im so sorry. I started buying BTC near all time highs. Not even joking..

Longjumping-Bonus723

Yooo BTC up 2k from today's low ;] a chance. A hope. Yoda.

MotanulScotishFold

People either are amateur or have short memory. Look in the past. Remember in 2021 BTC dropping from 64k to 28k before making a new ATH to 69k? And people screamed at that time it was bear market but after BTC it recovered and made a new ATH, many did FOMO again and got burnt. To see if the cycle is over, look at the BTC.D to be less than 50% while alts will overperform, creating FOMO, like in 2021 and again people will be burnt.

VariatCA

I literally did take profit, what are you even basing that assumption on? My comment history is all there, feel free to do digging. I sold over 65% of my BTC/ETH over a 120k / 4.5k average, and have been using some of those proceeds to buy this ridiculously-oversold dip as well. You guys keep predicting the end of the world, and you miss one opportunity after another.

spirax919

BTC is slow and clunky and lightning is shit

Remote_Dance8838

Honestly, this time it could be different for alts like ETH, LINK and similar. I know alts are risky and heavily manipulated, but consider that now every serious DeFi and RWA project has big players coming in, and many are already involved. I’d still allocate a small amount to solid alts, just to have some exposure in case the bull run really takes off, and I think it will, because some of these projects are genuinely strong. BTC will remain the leader, of course, but don’t sleep on good alts. In 2021 the alt market was mostly driven by NFT hype; this time it’s different.

Super8take

Doesn't matter what the price goes to, the utility of BTC when you use it right will make you thousands.

aaron2933

The only good advice here is to only buy BTC in crypto. The rest is just speculation

Backrus

Was, not anymore. Let's look at April low. NVDA, the biggest market cap in the world, did 2.5x from the bottom. BTC did like 50%. Even from bear market bottom it was underperforming META, etc. On a risk-adjusted basis is done until proven otherwise. It's also the only asset in the world this year that collapsed instantly the moment it went into positive gamma. And it should behave more like TSLA or gold in August - gap up and go, and you don't look back because gamma feeds onto itself. Free assets move like that, and, on top of that, are able to squeeze shorts. You could have been short BTC since December 2024 FOMC meeting and never be in danger. In a post halving year, with historically weak dollar and during later innings of the greates bull market in history. Let that sink in. Since BTC as freedom idealogy is dead, and has been for quite some time, I'm interested in outperforming debasement, and it seems like mega caps with passive flows are the way to go. Those and anything with decent momentum. Logically, one should assume that there will be frontrunning of new FED chair and ZIRP so bottom around May, but who knows. It depends how deep we'll go this bear. IBIT cost basis is at 80.5k. Selling will accelerate there. Zombie companies will start puking coins. MSTR will get delisted from indices because it's just a close fund (and for close fund with expenses being 6-10% below mNav is considered fair value). So my guess would be 30k-40k range as bottom. Maybe even below IBIT floor, why not? Unless US or Japan tumbles - BTC has never seen real recession so 4-digits is the possibility then. There's also a scenario that the real top was in early December 2024 because we got peak euphoria then and BTC has topped in gold terms (and it printed and confirmed nasty head and shoulders in gold terms now). All in all, fully financialised BTC aka hijacked coin has become everything I don't like about financial world so I sold my whole stack few weeks ago and I'm enjoying unfolding carnage now. But I can see reality when Wall St runs ETH without BTC because narrative is there and test pump in Q2 was quite successful.

darkrood

Why would they lock their billions in, when they can just sell, then they can just: \- buy BTC on a discount \- buy any companies near bankruptcy at a discount \- go on a shopping spree with yacht sale nah...you know what, they gonna diamond hand, cuz "THEY IN THIS TOGETHER WITH US!!!"(/s)

em-fan

The smart money made a killing on BTC and the DATs, suckered in retail to play via ETFs etc and then called time and bailed.  And that's about it.  Next game.

VariatCA

Ah the classic "defend being incredibly wrong with a proclamation of Just Trolling Bro" If I listened to the people calling for the death of BTC back then, or throughout 2023/2024 or the Spring dump of 2025, I wouldn't be up 350% since then.

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IrishMedic722

Maybe of THIS cycle. But every four years it usually loses like 60% of its value before reaching new ATHs after the halving. Just keep DCA-ing. This honestly isn’t even a bad one historically. But yea if you aren’t in it for the long haul and were relying on the money for short term gains then yes I can see this being pretty brutal. If that’s the case for you I’m truly sorry. But if you’re in this long term I wouldn’t sweat it. BTC is pretty predictable. But since they announced no rate cut today everything went down - on a macro scale things have been happening over the past month that have caused this market wide. It isn’t just BTC. But it will rebound. So if you can hang in there just keep hanging on. You don’t lose unless you sell. And it will rebound eventually. Hang in there.

randobis

I had 5 BTC I bought for next to nothing and sold them all in 2017 for under $2000. I thought I was the Wolf of Bitcoin.

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Post is by: Ubique008 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1p2gr23/playbook_from_a_crypto_veteran_nfa_dyor/ Been here since 2017. I lost everything in the FTX and Luna crash. Became a BTC maxi and it made me wonders this time. I bet the house in 15k BTC 2022 and sold it all at 107k. Never made back my 2021 paper gains, but still. What I am, me, me personally, have written down to do: BTC can go 75 80 85% down. It happens. The 4y cycle has not disproven itself yet. I am sitting all in safe treasure bonds until 13-14 months after all time high. By november decemver 2026 the bottom should be in. My guess is around 40-55k for BTC. When will I sell? 13-14 months after halving. I 100% got the bottom in 2022 and missed the top by not much tbh. It was the same time playbook that worked in 2017, and worked 2021, and worked again 2025. 2021 I lost 100% what I invested in the LUNA FTX crap. Never again. I myself will only buy BTC. Again, around nov 2026 and sell around 13-14 months after halvint whenever that is. This is not financial advice, this is just what a crypro veteran who got 100% wrecked did this time and will do again. Hold right now if you want. But Hold BTC. HOLD ONLY BTC. I would sell everything, even BTC, and way for nov 2026, but if you hold BTC i wouldnt blame you. I hold now what would be over 8 figures of alts at ATH, that are cents. Even bluechip alts like DOT and AVAX that I hold since 2021 ATH still wrecked me to hell. I would never in a million years hold alts agains, even ETH. Buckle up kids. The bear market memes are always amazing. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Vast_Thing_9060

There you again I crashed it by buying some chum change BTC.🤩

reliable35

Bull over & no Alt coin season total 💩 show… BTC going to $35k~$45k range - by summer 2026.

namieorange

Since everyone is just throwing numbers $680 and Zec will be $700 The new BTC 🤣

SnowImportant4517

The OG's dumped BTC on WST and they in turn dumped it on retail, what did I miss ?

TurkishBitcoiner

"Best investment may be: Just spend $1000 on buying yourself 85 Bitcoins... and wait." - a comment 13 years ago. I mean holy shit. Everytime no matter the marketcap people panic, no matter what happens BTC reaches new high's. I can't even imagine, 85 BTC for 1000 USD. What a life.

IndigoRoot

OP isn't saying BTC has no negative impact, just that gold's impact is worse but gets no attention from the same people that complain about BTC impact. The implication presumably being that people who complain about environmental impact of BTC don't care as much about the environment as they do about hating BTC.

warriormango1

Ok and? Are you claiming that BTC is going to perform the exact same as the last 10 years?

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Post is by: IsItSafe2Speak and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1p2ghct/what_does_everyone_think/ As I've said in a previous post, we've all been watching the steady downtrend over the past month. With BTC seemingly stabilizing right do you think it will continue the downtrend into the 70s, as I predicted, or will it catch a rebound. Are we consolidating right now in preparation for an uptrend? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

JustLTFD

Agreed. There is always a catalyst. Mt Gox, FTX, LUNA, ect. The catalyst this time is MSTR is blowing up. They borrowed billions and have been buying the last couple years. Well they are out of money and their stock has burst. So they will no longer be buying and will likely need to become sellers to cover interest payments. Many saw this coming long before it happened. Somehow Saylor is still in denial about having to sell BTC. The day he says it there will be blood in the streets.

No-Positive-3984

Good. My chance of hitting .25 BTC is much more likely at these prices.

Dangerous-Hair6217

BTC doesn't have just that, it's a safe and decentralized way of sending and receiving any amount of value from anywhere in the world at all time without any intermediary this is absolutely huge and moreover it has stellar economics, I don't think you understand how important and precious btc is becoming, the whole financial system and its actors prove everyday that they very well understand how important it is in a fiat world that is crumbling

namieorange

It will be the first time BTC closes the post halving year, not only without massive 5 in red!! Also, cycle when it hit ATH before halving Also, first cycle with such massive interest rates that only now started to decrease But all the same. Bear year 2026, after bear year 2025, because lines 👍

Charming-Designer944

And I sold 200 BTC when it was about It US $600... If kept them then my family would not need to work ever again for generations to come.

Substantial-Sea3046

See this as an opportunity to buy more, don't look at the fall in fiat value, look instead at your BTC balance.

dynastyfriar

I’m someone whose investments non even including 401ks/457s are maybe 2% BTC 10% precious metals 88% ETFs/stocks. I follow here and invest a little in BTC for fun(have purchased for as little is 9k) but I just don’t believe in it it’s value. I buy and sell for entertainment maybe someday I’ll be convinced it’s the future but right now it seems to be all speculation. Also I feel like it could go to under 1,000 or 1,000,000 just as easily and why take such a risk with my families finances? Maybe if I was young single and childless I would risk more.

Unhappy-Novel1536

I'm glad that BTC is so untethered from the fiat financial system.

Intelligent-Radio159

Giving his BTC to Saylor and the rest of us….. “This is the way”

PM_Me_Your_Mustash

That’s 0.0715% of BTC’s marketcap 😂