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Do you think the people affected by the historical floods over the next five days will be buying, selling, or holding BTC?

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How do you monitor positions + orderbooks across DEXs, CEXs, and other platforms?

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Peter Brandt Highlights Bitcoin Price Pattern Key to Keeping BTC's Bull Trend Healthy

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How do the largest hodlers of BTC store thier coins?

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Done stacking, now HODLing

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Paper bitcoins

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What percent of us do you think are hodling this way, Pros and Cons. Storage

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Are Bitcoin Loans a good idea?

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What’s your DCA amount for BTC?

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Is it a common misconception that Bitcoins gain their value from the cost of electricity required to generate them?

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BTC can't turn $1 into $10 in 2024 - yes it can, over and over

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Simple Replies to Skeptics

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Contributing to ETF custodial holdings

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WTH happened to $BTC volume here?

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BTC: The era of US Dollar dominance is finished.

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MSTR or miners for leveraged play? (and how is the halving supposed to be bullish for miners??)

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Need help in understanding XPUB derivation paths

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BlackRock Bitcoin ETF has surpassed holdings worth over $2 billion, equivalent to more than 52,000 BTC.

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BlackRock Bitcoin ETF has surpassed holdings worth over $2 billion, equivalent to more than 52,000 BTC.

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Don’t Get Caught Chasing

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BTC Transaction stuck over 3 months :( !!!

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Don't Get Rekt in This Bull Run: Remember the 2017 "Earn" Scams?

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Don't Get Rekt in This Bull Run: Remember the 2017 "Earn" Scams?

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Questions about DCA and UTXO

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Which oracle will be dominant in 2024?

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BTCMinetrix | ERC-20 | Cloud App | Stake Tokens = Mine Bitcoin | Audited | Presale Is Almost Finished | Join Before Official Launch

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Reminder: Bitcoin Was Invented to Replace the Current Flawed System, Not to Be Absorbed Into It. Stop getting excited about BlackRock and Fidelity accumulating more BTC every day, and be aware of what's coming.

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I LOVE BTC logo design. Feel free to use it for any purpose. Design source files are in the comments.

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Shouldn't we just denominate BTC in sats

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So this didn't age well

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Bitcoin As A Power Law: why BTC is predictable over the long run

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ICYF: BTC ETFs can start advertising on Google from Today.

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Coinbase trade any amount for chance at 5 BTC

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"Traditional" Investor here looking to diversify, should I buy a lot of BTC before the halving?

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Will BTC continue to rise

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Unluckiest Man Alive

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Mined BTC early, trying to figure out if recovery is possible...

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BTC for grandkids

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Crypto Reporting (US) - Bitcoin and failing to report loses; Need help to fix this

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Found a MAJOR discrepancy in price of BTC on exchanges

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BitcoinMinetrix | ERC-20 | Cloud Mining | Stake To Mine BTC | Audited & SAFU | Jump In Before Listing

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Setting up a Node on a new N100 Mini PC, What do I need to Know?

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Reminder: Bitcoin Was Invented to Replace the Current Flawed System, Not to Be Absorbed Into It. Stop getting excited about BlackRock and Fidelity accumulating more BTC every day, and be aware of what's coming.

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Overførsel av crypto

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Just another example of why we Bitcoin…

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Where can i get a free BTC

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Another big dump!

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The last deadline for an Ethereum ETF approval for the SEC is in May 2024, expect a stronger pump than the months before the BTC ETF approval

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My last post was deleted: I heard you guys loud and clear

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MSTR in a ROTH IRA for BTC exposure

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Why BTC will be sideways or downward for months..

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ETF's price drop explained, and why the growing optimism!

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Hey are you interested in BTC investment The BTC investment is that you will have to open a btc wallet and fund it and if you have it already then you’re already a winner What you will just do is that you will use $50-$200 $100-$300 $150-$400 $300-$500 $500-$1000 $1500-$2000 $2000-$3000

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If Bitcoin Didn't Exist Where Would You Put Your Capital?

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Navigating the BTC Market Shake-up: Understanding Grayscale's Move and the Dynamics of Weak vs. Strong Hands

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A discussion on BTC intrinsic value

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When someone calls BTC a scam…

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I have $2.29 in ETH left on Arb Nova...

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Taking out a 15k CC loan to stack more sats

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Taking CC out Loans to Buy More Sats

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Question about ETF -- are BTC traded or do they tend to be held?

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I just saw my first Bitcoin ad on basic cable tv….

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Exodus Wallet any Good?

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Hey are you interested in BTC investment The BTC investment is that you will have to open a btc wallet and fund it and if you have it already then you’re already a winner What you will just do is that you will use $50-$200 $100-$300 $150-$400 $300-$500 $500-$1000 $1500-$2000 $2000-$3000

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How long…?

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As a whale, I was never worried about halving

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Saudi Arabia to Match Satoshi Nakamoto's 1Million Bitcoin!

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Die #Bitcoin Konferenz in #Innsbruck

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Die #Bitcoin Konferenz in #Innsbruck (kurz #BTC23)

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The previous Bull Run was pretty underwhelming.

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Clarification on UTXOs / what am I misunderstanding re: consolidation?

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Bitcoin Mempool Ordinal / BRC-20 / DataCarrier transaction comparison?

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Have you ever wondered what Albert Einstein may have said about Bitcoin?

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Have you ever wondered what Albert Einstein might have said about Bitcoin?

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How long did it take you to understand why BTC really matters?

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Is Bitcoin Finally Finding Firm Ground as Grayscale’s BTC ETF Outflows Calm Down?

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Is Bitcoin Finally Finding Firm Ground as Grayscale’s BTC ETF Outflows Calm Down?

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Daily Bitcoin Update

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WTF is a BTC Spot ETF actually???

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Joe Rogan learning BTC being the best store of value in the world 10yrs ago when BTC is 900$

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Waiting?

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1 year ago I ACTUALLY lost most of my Bitcoin in a boating accident.

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Lightning CEX to CEX, cheap & safe?

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BitcoinMinetrix | ERC-20 | Cloud Mining | Stake Tokens = Mine Bitcoin | Audited & Safe | Presale Is Almost Finished | Join Before Listing

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Thanks cryptos

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ETF misconceptions

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Bitcoin Monthly 32 - Stay up to date with what matters

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Pricing All Everyday Goods in BTC, From iPhone to Houses, Will Act as an Electroshock to Your Awareness of the Bitcoin Revolution.

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Finding Remote International Jobs (Freelance or Salary) That Pay In BTC

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Should i sell my Gold chain for Bitcoin?

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Hedge funds caused the price drop.

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How safe is Trezor?

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Bitbox02 btc only or Coldcard Q Wallet

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Bitbox02 btc only or Coldcard Q

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Blockchain In Review

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After looking into Bitcoin for 1 month and reading A LOT of posts on this Reddit I have no clue if BTC will go to the moon or go to zero.

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Cheapest Way To Purchase Bulk Crypto/BTC

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Bitcoin and the media, such a joke

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Does the fact that Coinbase holds custody of 8 out of the 11 spot BTC ETFs pose any risk?

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Daily Bitcoin Analysis

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I guess I don't know then. Debt is debt and they owe it, convertibles or whatever. And their income doesn't seem to support servicing it. Which was the point of the "business model" comment. And yes, bad bitcoin price is very very bad for them with all of that debt load. They would have to sell BTC which is bad for everyone else.

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At this point checking the BTC price is like checking the weather in San Diego. "Oh look, it's 90K and sunny again, what a surprise"

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The Malibu chart is brutal; it shows how real estate in prime locations acts as a classic "store of value": scarcity + constant demand = strong historical gains. But Bitcoin has been much more explosive in the same period (multiplying thousands of times vs. tens of times over decades). Both share that "scarce asset that people want to own forever" vibe, but BTC wins in liquidity and total portability. Ultimately, premium real estate is the analog Bitcoin: slower, more tangible, and with income, but with less crazy upside potential. I see them as complementary for diversification.

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??? BTC prices are directly and intrinsically linked to their Valuation and their valuation is directly linked to their debt and equity market cap (which allows them to control debt & interest through convertibles). This is my point, you have no clue what you're talking about.

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My daughter was born within that time, unless I can make sure that I have HER specifically then I take the 10 BTC.

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Go back to 2010 and buy BTC is the only good answer.

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I remember the faucet but creating a wallet was quite hard and 5 BTC was less than a dollar and the big discussion was if it were ever going to break a dollar so I gave up after like 30min. Would've sold at 100$ at the very latest, I think, so it doesn't bother me much. I'm more sorry I didn't move forward with my plans to mine bitcoin with a couple of rasperry pis because I wouldn't have broken even with my electry bill right away..

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Honestly speaking, there is no good reason to take the red one, except if you’re worried about altering your future by changing actions you took in the past that led you to who you are today. If you take the blue one, you could get 10k BTC, not just 10. It was cheaper than coffee back then.

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Just like BTC is better than fiat currency, privacy is better than BTC. Just my opinion.

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Why did you compare it to buying a home then? I said nothing about BTC prices at all. Just the company's debt, interest on that debt, and the profits available to pay for it all.

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There are many reason for example to build a diversified asset class savings for retirement and once retired sell it a bit every year to complement your pension and live a bit better. And you sell to anyone as the BTC is very liquid there are always buyers out there. It could be as well to fund long term project like buying a secondary residence then you cash out once you have accumulated enough to do so. Ultimately it could be as well to provide some transmission to the next generation without having to pay tax immediately(delay the taxation process) you just need to transfer to another recipient who will hold it for another generation and so on (depending on the country applicable rules sometimes transferring asset could be taxable)

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LOL alt bags always lose money. BTC only.

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Why does it bother you if it moves against BTC? Don't be a BTC supremacist, it's stupid

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Stick to BTC. Just DCA. Thank me later.

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I don't think they are worried about copying and pasting the wrong address. I think their question was does anybody do dusting with BTC.

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That’s the thing cash only depreciates gold and metals aren’t rocket ships either BTC is mostly vertical over 5 years and nearly vertical over 10 years but keeping $250k in the each bank isn’t insane to me because i wouldn’t use that money to weld power or buy things i would let the $2k a month pay my bills and stack sats with a portion of what’s left but in a realistic setting 0.250% is the highest the average person can go and there aren’t enough high yield banks to get the maximum out of interest rates and stocks and bonds aren’t rockets either

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The psychology of a butt coiner is truly sad. Imagine how miserable your life has to be to actively root against a digital asset. Of all the things there is to do and explore in life they choose to talk shit about BTC and post about it online. Humans are funny

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Irrelevant of the maths, whether you used a AI to write this for you, I am purely writing as if this post is legitimate. I did the exact same but with only 20k AUD in alt coins, a chunk of money I was happy to lose (but ideally didn't want to). My brother in law has been through multiple alt coin seasons, he's had BTC, ETH and then a range of alt coins. His initial investment was 100K some time back now, and before the crash in October? this year he had 600K (500k profit - not counting taxes and money to withdrawal). He does charting every day, he's done courses and has a group of people who invest and collaborate who do the same. He was loving seeing the profit, till now. Hes gone from 600k portfolio to less than 300k as he moved all his BTC and ETH to alt coins such as SOL, SUI, SONIC etc. I too have about 20k in the above and down over 50% currently, for me its a live and learn. I wish I had that 20k now that we just had Christmas etc. but also I am just going to leave it there now and wait. Brother in law still has a slight hope of an alt coin season but I can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice, his hope is not like it used to. Now to the real question which option. I would rule out option B. You are taking more loss transferring, and right now its just too volatile to pick any alt coin to rally. So you have the get out option A, use the tax losses to your advantage but still come out down. Otherwise if you can live and survive, not have to sell a car, or assets might have to sit on what you have, just remember you havent lost anything yet till you actually withdrawel. You still have the amount of coins you had when you put in 88k or whatever it was. Either way, yes you got caught up in the hype train, 4 year cycle was coming to an end, top analysts were all banking on massive rallies... but at the end of the day, this is all funny money, dictated purely by the whales out there. We are living in their world, they want to pump in a few hundred million, watch the little people like us trip over themselves, then pull out. This is not a game you play to bank on winning, only hope.

Pfffffft. I could but 100BTC back then for under $100 and have over $11mil today if sold at high.

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Crypto is getting exposed now. Don't hope for any season of any kind. It's a dumpster even ETH and BTC at this stage. There is a reason stock is up, gold, silver is up because people beleive these are the real proper assets not some ponzhi scheme like crypto.

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If you do business with Coinbase, they can issue you a debit card which you can use for purchases or at ATM's.  Each transaction with the card triggers an automatic exchange of BTC to USD.

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> I see that it’s the leading revenue generation coin by a wide margin. Be careful of NOOB bagholders shilling and misinforming you. DYOR and verify for yourself. | Time Frame | TRON | ETH | |:-----------|------------:|:------------:| | 7 Days | $44.7 Million| $1.9 Million | 30 Days | $201 Million| $11 Million | 90 Days | $642 Million| $76.6 Million | YTD | $3.5 Billion| $529 Million https://tokenterminal.com/explorer/projects/tron/metrics/fees?interval=ytd https://tokenterminal.com/explorer/projects/ethereum/metrics/fees?interval=ytd Even the the YTD numbers are misleading. Both networks have had upgrades resulting in declining fees but ETH's drop in Fee revenue has been MASSIVE from $26-40 Million per week in the first couple of weeks of the year to $2-3 Million or less today as traffic has migrated to L2s and upgrades have slashed fee revenue to very little. See my other comments, ETH fee revenue is down -98% since the 2021 peak. I am not advocating to invest in TRON in any way, just pointing out the facts. Bagholders of all sorts of Alts think they have fundamentals and point to fee revenue, technology, partnerships, etc. But the fact is that all Alts are completely double speculative assets that rely completely on BTC price movements (BTC itself is speculative) **ETH is a double speculative asset** ETH is a double speculative asset that historically has a 0.96 correlation coefficient to BTC. *ETH only appreciates when BTC goes on parabolic bullruns.* Otherwise like the rest of crypto, it does nothing relying entirely on BTC for any appreciation of value and then *loses 70% to 90% of its value when BTC goes into a bear market.* - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021 - August 2025. ETH briefly touches past 2021 ATH after BTC breaks $120K

this graph is not selling. It's showing BTC transactions.

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No its not. If I go back 10 years in time my kids are away . I can make new ones but they wont be the kids I have/love right now. I would choose 10BTC even if stupid from a financial + ageing aspect

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Don’t mess with the timelines, get the 10 now as it is a sure thing. You go back in time, step on a butterfly and BTC does not grow into anything. Rookie time travel mistake 😝

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Because if those early coins start moving it would freak everyone out and probably tank the price hard. Satoshi has like a million BTC just sitting there untouched since 2009-2010 and people assume he's either dead or never coming back. If that wallet suddenly wakes up it means either someone cracked it or Satoshi is back, and nobody knows what they'd do with all those coins

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You built family, you’re happy, you don’t want to loose that. 10 BTC means you don’t have to worry anymore. You cash that out, invest into etf, enjoy about 2k a month in passive income. Or just hold couple months or years and cash that at the moment btc hits certain value, because you don’t need anything. Or you have nothing worthy going on in your life, you take the blue pill, take the chance to fix your life and start over. I suspect majority of redditors will be in this group, and majority of them will end up in the exactly same place as they are now, but with fuckton of bitcoin.

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Even though BTC has only traded with about +/- 4% variation centered on 87k these last two weeks, it's kind of striking when you look at the chart for it. So many 2% swings happened in barely the span of 15 minutes. "Rollercoaster" hardly even describes it... more like one of those gravity-tower rides at a theme park lol. https://imgur.com/a/lnbEIic

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That's me more or less. Not silk road, but similar. I'd buy a few bitcoin, do my deal, and be left with a casual $9k in today's BTC. I actually came across an old paper wallet from those days, years and years later, had a few hundred bucks worth of BTC on it that was worthless change when I was using that wallet.

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If your cost to generate those guesses exceeds the reward, the genie doesn't give you BTC—he repossesses your hardware.

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With the current prices you can almost argue that alt season was Sept/1st week of Oct before the BTC drop. 

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No, they are saying if you like BTC, buy it. Not through an increasingly shaky operator like Salor.

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I was 5, I would’ve had a stroke if I went back 15 years with this much knowledge about BTC. Young Sheldon would’ve nothing on me.

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I don't hold any altcoins but have been considering buying some now as a gamble. I've been mainly a BTC guy and mostly anti-altcoins but now would be the time to buy.

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Example Hello friend i am rakeesh bhaaraatamumbai Number 1 BTC to cash please give seed phrase i may begin convert my friend

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I hold 85% BTC and 15% ETH, so still heavily weighted towards BTC

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You mean I could buy BTC in 2010 and also avoid ever meeting my ex-wife the same year??

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Yeah you can even mine many sorts of crypto (probably also BTC) from your phone through various apps. It's just very slow to do it if you don't have the proper hardware.

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All very decent projects, but unfortunately crypto doesn't always make sense. - I would definitely get out of some of those dinosaur coins, and swap for 70% BTC / 30% ALTS - Try BTC/QNT - I would slowly DCA out of the market each month from here, then slowly DCA back in when prices are a bit lower next bear market (although we're already at pretty cheap prices)

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Easily 2010. Plus you could buy 10 BTC back then for no more than $9.50. Go back to 2010 and buy as much as you want. It never once broke $1

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One of the reasons why BTC appreciated is that many of us never knew this would have happened to hold as many as we can. Even though the BTC halving kept the supply balanced, while demands grows.

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Maybe I'm being obtuse, but BTC lacks any future cash flows, right? How does that refute the point?

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10 BTC for sure. That kind of knowledge/time travel would break you. There's no way you could to go back and live through 2010 to today without going a bit crazy no matter how much BTC/$$/Assets you'd be able to accumulate. That kind of mental burden would be ridiculous. You wouldn't be able to tell anyone anything that you know is coming without them thinking you've lost your mind, or being deeply creeped out by you when they discover you're right, or knowing horrible events are approaching (personal/family or global) and you really can't do anything to stop them, or being visited by the Men in Black if you do something to trigger their curiosity.

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Yeh, maybe. But I'd live pretty comfortably with 10 BTC for the rest of my life. If I went back, I'd just appreciate more spending time with my loved ones instead of trying to get rich. As I mentioned before, I'm not greedy, I'm practical. This choice would be the practical one.

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USDT has almost nothing to do with BTC and its price.

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If #BTC really runs to $250K in 2026, the “XRP upside case” people are pushing is basically this: XRP held up better than many alts in 2025, Ripple is building real financial infrastructure, and the SEC cloud is finally gone. A few articles making the rounds claim the broader altcoin market fell ~42% in 2025 while XRP was down ~15%. They also point to Ripple spending $2.7B+ on acquisitions (payments, treasury, trading infrastructure). And Reuters confirms the SEC case is ended, which removes a major long-term risk. Big question: if BTC hits $250K, do you think capital rotates into “use-case + regulation” coins like XRP… or does it mostly chase whatever has the strongest momentum?

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Why use the term “sold”? He paid for the pizza with BTC. Do you say you sold your dollars to the electric company when you pay your utility bill?

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If this was pre $1k per BTC i would say you could meet up with a person in meat space to trade BTC for cash…but post $1k per BTC you are more likely to be mugged and at $100k territory you will be tortured just like that one guy in las Vegas at the crypto convention in 2024

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It's part of a 50 BTC block mining reward, someone must have found their wallet.dat 😀

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I mean in 2011 Bitcoin was barely worth pocket change and most people used the free BTC for silk road

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And then it’s already too late to get in and most get burned anyway. In the end they learn the lesson that everyone needs to learn, and then they become a BTC maximalist.

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Haha 10 BTC now 😎 but 2010 knowledge would have been insane !! 🚀🚀

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10 BTC, I can't imagine not having my family right now... I don't want to get too rich... 10 btc is enough for me to live comfortably

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Is this a copy and paste from that deleted thread? Wrote the response back there here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1pxzwfv/comment/nwf2c3l/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1pxzwfv/comment/nwf2c3l/?context=3) Instead of getting a reply, OP just capitulated and deleted the thread. > It is functioning as a cypherpunk hedge against bitcoin  It is grasping for every straw that I see. First, they talk shit about crypto getting co-opted by ETFs/DATs. Then Grayscale files one for ZEC, and the twins launch Cyph DAT for ZEC. Then you hear all the blah blah from these advocates on how BTC will crash because Saylor's Strategy mNAV will go below 1 or how ETH will crash because Tom Lee's Bitmine mNAV will go below 1. Then I look at Cyph mNAV already below 1 - can't fathom ppl throwing stones in a glass house. If anyone irl asks me why crypto feels manipulative and deceitful, I will gladly tell them story about ZEC.

According to this graph, if I have 1 BTC on an address for 1 year I am a long time holder. If I move it to another address, I have sold. Which is obviously nonsense.

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As far as I know, alt season needs a trigger: BTC crash and that is not gonna happen as BTC is already “owned” by fin. institutions, not retail. BTC went up, it made almost double-up, but it forgot to crash. This is obviously a metaphor. Charles H. explained that recently well - retail is not already dumb, wont get caught for 3rd time (2017, 2021). Honestly this whole idea of the cycle is utterly stupid. It basically is a scam.

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Lol, I understand completely. But people are assuming a lot of things out of ignorance from this. But honestly, 10 BTC right now is more than enough money to last me my whole life, and it would be even more with time. I'm not greedy. I'm practical.

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I had hundreds of BTC in 2010...

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You’re describing a utopian theory that has already been debunked by history. We have already lived through a "Sound Money" era: The Gold Standard. Gold is mathematically scarce and impossible to "counterfeit" or print. According to your logic, the Gold Standard should have made fractional reserve banking and "bad debt" impossible. It didn’t. In fact, it birthed the modern fractional reserve system. Why? Because human self-interest favors convenience and yield over protocol purity. Banks realized they could issue more paper IOUs than they had gold in the vault because most people preferred the convenience of paper. We see this with Bitcoin today. You say people will choose the base layer out of self-interest, yet millions of people voluntarily gave their BTC to platforms like Celsius and FTX to chase a 5% yield. They traded "real Bitcoin" for "IOUs" because greed is a more powerful motivator than technical auditability for the average person. Furthermore, the base layer cannot scale to 8 billion people. That means 99% of the world must live on sub-layers and IOUs just to function. Bitcoin is a breakthrough in settlement, but it is not a cure for human nature. People will always find a way to lend what they don't have to chase a profit, and no amount of code on the base layer can stop a private contract or a side-chain spreadsheet from existing. I am primarily a Bitcoin maximalist, but my psychology degree and even a casual review of human history (when hard money was in effect) confirms hard money does NOT actually stop these things no matter how much we wish and want to believe it would. It absolutely won't. I stand by my original statement that believing otherwise is completely delusional, or at best, confabulation of the reality of human nature, psychology, and history. Your utopian vision is ideal, and how we both intend to choose to live ourselves, but virtually impossible to become reality with all 8 billion people suddenly living that way. It's not going to happen. That doesn't mean there is no point though. Bitcoin is a tool. It's neutral about anyone's intentions or use cases. It will allow people to use it any way they want. People will absolutely use it in ways contrary to someone else's ideals of what they wish it was solely used for. Bitcoin doesn't care. It's for everyone. We'll use it our way, but history already shows how some people will use hard money when it is the standard and all these problems still existed then.

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Zcash is the \*only\* viable hedge to bitcoin. Only 5 coins have fair PoW distribution, and only one has claim to on chain cryptographic privacy. It is functionally serving as a hedge against bitcoin - while 25% of BTC is being stored with US institutions (who would confiscate it if the government told them to - like they did gold in 1933) & bankers get to decide if bitcoin violates the social contract & deletes Satoshi's coins when quantum hits.

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This is a checklist of hopium, not a thesis. Ending QT doesn’t mean QE, and rate cuts usually happen because the economy is breaking — not because it’s time for alts to moon. A “crypto-friendly Fed chair” is fantasy until it actually happens, and even then the Fed isn’t cutting rates so random L2s can pump. Regulatory clarity helps BTC and maybe ETH — it doesn’t magically create demand for 90%-down, endlessly diluted alts with zero utility. Being at cycle lows isn’t bullish when most of those projects are structurally dead. If liquidity improves or DXY weakens, BTC eats first — we’ve already watched that play out this cycle. The market changed: ETFs, options, sports betting, and memecoins replaced alts as the casino. Retail isn’t coming back to baghold infrastructure tokens. There will be random pumps. A broad alt supercycle in 2026? That’s pure cope. I hope you all the best, but its best to be real than hold onto false hope.

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You might wish to read the entire history of the r/Bitcoin and r/BTC subs (going back to their inception) **before** you opine further on the matter.

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Yeah I was just making an innocent comment and you’d think I swore death against BTC holders. People get so defensive over the dumbest things. First I’d never use BTC to pay a bill right now. That may change but not now. Second I do it with two clicks on my phone in 15 seconds. Fiat seems to be working just fine right now. When that changes I’ll change but I’m not getting a software engineering degree so I can pay the light bill. It’s crazy.

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Try being in a worse situation. Having not only known about BTC but owned ~50 BTC 10 years ago only to have sold at the bottom of a “flash” crash. Never got back in until somewhat recently.

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Just created my Bitcoin maxi channel on telegram for some btc Hopium! Please join and need a lot of BTC believers! https://t.me/tisay87

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Easily go back to 2010. Can I not only buy BTC for pennies on the dollar but also be 15 years younger? :D or do I come back immediately?

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Ahg! What a tough question, being without alot of money in my early days has taught me alot. I have met many people by being without money that I would not have met if I had crazy money. There were so many people that showed there true faces just cuz I didn’t have money. I think the people I met right now are amazing and I wouldnt risk loosing them in any case. However, if I do get to 2010 I would be crazy rich right now. Probably the guy with most money in the world. Taking into account everything that I said. I would still take 10 BTC right now and try to flip it into something greater. I would keep 7-8 BTC and use the rest to make money by different businesses.

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I'll take the 10 BTC now cause there have been so many lucky coincidences leading to my current life (Job, Wife, Kid) I would never risk not having even for the billions I could make with the other pill.

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If you don't want issues with banks just buy the IBTC ETF through your regular share trading account. After that you can convert your ETF units to BTC for a $1000 fee.

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One comma three BTC purchased. So much! European here btw. 😂

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Blue and purchase 100 BTC

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You need to look at today from the perspective of the future. Time horizon is the single biggest free arbitrage you can tap into. Solana is a hedge against Eth, Zcash is a hedge against BTC. Outside of those four the crypto market is totally cooked.

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All time travel options are essentially infinite money. That said extremely greedy and greed would lead me to ruin. Send me my 10 BTC plz, thank you.

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10 BTC, it’s not possible to go back in time.

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At one point we all could have bought 10k BTC, or much more...how is this even a choice???

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Unfortunately, this comic will not come to be. People will continue to doubt BTC for years (if not generations) to come, as the problem is their lack of understanding of the technology, not its price.

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Ummm, go back to 2010 and buy 10 BTC duh

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Incorrect. You lock in BTC as collateral and live your life on the loan. You work, trading Time, to buy more BTC collateral.

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From what I gather of crypto the only 2-3 coins I’d personally sink money into and feel ok leaving it there a few days w o checking up on it are BTC, ETH, or Monero. The rest are pure speculation and have no real connection to reality and the other Financial markets. Stick to those 3 if you consolidate. But some people ride to the wheels fall off or their investments bounce back. At least w the stock market you know real big money people are behind each stock or corporation and if a stock tanks it’s because of a real life situation that causes the downfall. Great companies bounce back because theirs real value there backed by the 1%s cash! Follow the money and you’ll always see a bigger picture. But With Crypto it’s all hype and the only reason markets move is when bitcoin holders sell a coin to purchase other coins of lesser value. With so few holders of most of these coins, regardless of which coin it is, makes it easier for a few to manipulate the many or the market itself. If they move together on any given trade they can easily pump into some shit coin and inflate the value instantly. As soon as the market moves up all the little people start piling in which further pushes up the price. Our 2 villains decide when to rug pull and work in tandem to max profit and virtually sucker people into buying something they think will keep rising. Meanwhile our villians leave everyone else holding the bag while they cash out into the next cycle on another coin or back into the ones they feel are safe. Thats a simple example, but with whst seems like Unlimited shit coins out there, imagine being able to issue your own coins with no oversight! Sam Bankman Fried ring a bell. You cant trust these coins until theres a reality based reason for their value imo. Otherwise you’re just trying to get lucky

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I’ve been following crypto for well over a decade, have forgotten more about it than you’ve ever known, and understand the trading of it (and every other financial asset) better than you understand your native tongue. BTC was corrupted before you knew it was a thing and has been nothing more than just another speculative financial asset which is entirely controlled by the banking cartel for at least 8 years.

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10BTC sound very good

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Seeing the shift could take a decade when you consider all the corruption in this "industry". Binance alone (for better or worse) has shown that the large players cannot be trusted whatsoever. Algorand shows us that we can't even trust respectable institutions like MIT to do what's right. BTC is your safest bet but it too will eventually be obsolete.

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Haha, running away to tell mommy? How does a bank control money in your little world? By providing a service? Do you mean like networks? By giving access to credit? Btw, if BTC has so much value and you are now in control (like a bank), are you willing to let me borrow some?

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My BIL bought the top of BTC and Silver. Can wait to see what he targets next.

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No he should have just bought BTC, but somebody im sure will yell at me for even suggesting something as old and slow as BTC. Yet, here I am very well and deeply in the green just holding BTC.

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This is why I keep saying just buy BTC. But no, nobody ever listens. They just call us "Maxies". They tell us BTC is slow, old, or whatever they want to call it. If you had just bought Bitcoin, you would be either up or at an absolute bare minimum, broken even. Even if you bought at 100K, you would be at least close to broke even. I sold off all my alts in august? I'm doing alright, straight into BTC.

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The flaw is assuming you can reliably time Bitcoin’s underperformance. BTC’s returns are lumpy and discontinuous—miss a few upside weeks and your “extra fiat to dump into BTC later” permanently buys you less BTC. That’s market timing, not diversification. If Bitcoin is the end goal, being underexposed during repricing is the real risk.

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Back to 2010 obviously. I would just need to hold the BTC I bought in 2011 and be set for life.

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That's a no brainer for me. I don't have a family of my own, and I've only lost people since 2010. I was 18yo with my entire life a head of me. If I knew bitcoin was going to be $100k in 2025, I would've stayed at home and dumped nearly my entire paycheck into Bitocoin. I'd be a billionaire, without even changing the trajectory of cypto. The amount I'd be perpetually buying, that early in BTC's existence, would completely fly under the radar.

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yeah this is the dumbest choice, because it's essentially not a choice. Red pill is just some money right now. Blue pill is easily SUBSTANTIALLY more money. Even assuming you didn't use any of your other future person knowledge and were broke, you would be able to get substantially more BTC and also know when to hold and sell, AND get 15 extra years of existence?

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Buying with a mNAV below 1 Quarterly "Bitcoin yield" of -2.1% YTD return of -48%, 66% drop off their all time high Indexes considering excluding his company Little Kermit Saylor is scrambling. This company has diluted so readily they may never return to their highs If you believe in Bitcoin, skip the grifter middlemen and holding companies and just buy BTC.

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The only BTC exchange in my Country for the early years completely rugged, and I don't think hardware wallets were much of a thing, so I'd be worried about the security element in those days.

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Isn't that technically wrapped BTC and borrowing stablecoins within defi. I think that's worth noting considering there are depegging risks as well as potential smart contract and oracle exploitation risks

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I said this before on another thread but I don't think BTC is going to be the Be all into all especially for generations from now That's a lot to ask for. Will Bitcoin be big in our generation in the next for sure. Three more generations after that I'm highly doubtful, there will definitely be something better think about it The world thought Fiat currency was going to last forever, The US dollar dominating at all. It was "too big to fail" now we're over 34 trillion dollars in debt... Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to shoot holes through my beloved BTC but I'm going to be realistic I don't even think most major auto manufacturers, and well-known companies will be around four generations from now. The world is going to be a completely different place and let's just face it the state of the art encryption we have today. Will be like breaking into a four digit pin in the future. So definitely something's going to come along that is a lot more equitable, A lot more secure, decentralized, with way faster transaction speeds

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I would take the ten BTC. Obviously I could go back in time and buy hundreds of thousands. But so many good things have happened in my life otherwise. Why would I want to erase all of that? 10 BTC is a nice early retirement present for me as it is.

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An then .... Time + Luck being a fickle bi... It'll go completely the other way with BTC ... Akin to buy high sell low.

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10 BTC! One should not be fucking with the passed. Have you not seen back to the future!

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If you had bought BTC for 15k to 30k, you would have at least 150k/200k. Your problem is not understanding that the name of the game is accumulating SATs... nothing more. You know for next time; if I were you, I would put everything in HBAR and wait until 2028, thats 200k coins im sure this project will see a dollar.

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"alt" season will definitely happen. Maxis just call anything other than BTC alts or scams. They called eth a scam for years. Blockchain technology has huge potential for growth. The question is. Are all alts over valued right now? I would vote yes. I would vote BTC is over valued based on its utility and deviation from the white paper. There are block chains that the next generation will rely on world wide. What they are doesn't really matter right now and they most likely dont exist. Governments will likely create logical regulations towards blockchains and then use that technology to further the populous just like they do with centralized banks to ensure the working class don't get too far ahead and the rich stay rich.

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