BTC

book4225

One of the comments: BTC will be around $600k, ETH will be around $40k. Let’s see haha

No_Theory9958

Bro, you got scammed. Be glad it was only $400. People have learned much more expensive lessons than this in crypto. You’re wasting your time and energy arguing with this company/exchange. 0% chance they return your BTC and you will definitely spend more on legal fees if you go that route

LionRivr

1. Have stable income 2. Pay your monthly bills 3. Service your debts 4. Contribute to retirement account for tax advantages and stock exposure 5. Account $ for daily expenses (food, gas, etc.) 6. Build 3-6 months of cash savings in case of unemployment. 7. Consider $ for hobbies/entertainment 8. DCA whatever’s left, or whatever you’re comfortable with into BTC. 9. Get adequate sleep, whole nutritious foods, proper hydration, sufficient sunlight, strength training and mobility/injury prevention exercises. 10. Support your family, friends, and community.

DyehuthyTV

>He says nothing about monthly.., 👇🏻 >When I get money I invest all of it into BTC immediately... You don’t have to be a genius to figure it out lol

tommazikas

There is, but if there was no BTC there would be no alt coins, it started with BTC, maybe someone else would have created something different then would be somethong different. Debate worth nothing to debate about.

barchilla

99% of shitcoins are just a cheap copy of #Bitcoin 4 me there is only 21millions of BTC and a world full of fiat inflation

machin_bidule

Imho, main benefit is protection against inflation, because banks and government can't create Bitcoin from thin air, like they do with $. Bitcoin is rare bc the supply is mathematically capped. USD is based on politics, Bitcoin is based on maths. Hardware wallet cost is $75 or less nowadays. They are useful only for big amounts. Op lost 0.1BTC, he should have bought a hardware wallet...

Some-Platform1968

Yes, because that company’s stock price was based on expected future profits and the business burned down…no more future profits. BTC is valued on magic so I think it requires more time for investors to gradually exit the market. But I can’t think of an event that would make every holder sell at once to drop the price to zero. I wonder what could happen that would make every investor go to sell the same day, or over a really short period

Capital-Ad8143

Stop spreading lies, you evidently do not believe in the technology and advancements that BTC brings to the financial world.

paperlevel

You don't buy on the wallet, the wallet is how your keys are stored. I would actually recommend starting with an ETF especially if you already have a brokerage account. If you want BTC directly an app like Strike is pretty good, keeps it simple.

paperlevel

DCA is too passive for me. When I get money I invest all of it into BTC immediately. I keep all other accounts as close to zero as possible. If you do it like this you'll make progress much faster.

Juus

300 billion dollars disappeared from SpaceX in the last 5 days, so i don't think it is farfetched to see a trillion disappear from BTC in 14 years.

racecrack

Except that... it is deflationary compared to the dollar. So even if the dollar value of things would remain stable over the next 16 years (*allow me to cough there*) - the USD value of a stable BTC amount would still rise.

Old-Committee944

Tbh I dont even care about the exact price anymore. If BTC is still around in 2040 after 4 more halvings, thats already game over for the bears. Feels like people will be arguing over whether it’s worth $2M or $5M instead of asking if it’s dead lol.

jsands7

!remindme 14 years “Is Bitcoin closer to $1,000,000 or $0? Reference: BTC at $64,000 today”

ihateduckface

How would quantum computing devalue BTC? I’m curious.

Schwoanz

Two users predicted BTC to be at 68k (that‘s damn accurate!) and 60-80k.

Arijan101

Nobody controls it? It's more centralized then regular money, check how much supply is in the hands of a few players. Nobody can print more? It's literally open source code with trillions of identical copies. No government can shut it down? They can just shut down the internet, rendering it completely useless. No one can hack it...yet. The 1st Quantum computer will crack it open like a can of cold beer after a long shift. Also if anyone's ever gets to control 51% of the entire network, that person can then literally change anything and everything about it. No bank can deny you acces to it? What a stupid take. Exchanges can freeze your assets at any given time, just like banks can. Also if you hold it in cold storage you still risk,damaging it, losing it or getting robbed,so this whole access mumbo jumbo is just another dumb talking point. Your BTC can just as easily be tracked and confiscated by the government like regular money. Decentralized? Look how much of the supply is held by a select few wallets. The top 100 wallets hold 15% of the circulating supply. How is that decentralized?

Anonimo1sdfg

My fear are the Quantus Computers. I don't know what is gona happend with this because i don't really know how it will affect BTC

textoro

2028 - 842k ATH 2032 - 22.4M ATH 2036+ BTC is multi-planetary asset

Nietsnuts

1BTC will be 1BTC

OneMiners_Marc

By 2040 ill either be retired from BTC gains or still telling people “just one more halving”

paperlevel

Power law has it around $4M per BTC in 2040. The support line is $1.5M. The upper bound is around $9M. If you want to see these charts yourself just search for Bitbo Power Law

Arijan101

And 100% of the BTC total supply is literally digits that some random dude typed on his keyboard while coding it, so what's the difference? Instead of 21M he could've just typed any other number at random and it wouldn't make any difference. This entire "scarcity" argument is pure B.S.

Available-Distance81

Use lightning wallet. Cashapp has a lightning wallet. also, I wouldn't hold 1 whole BTC on an exchange, put it on a private wallet, keep what you'd keep in a checking account in a lightning wallet.

Hazel-cyperpunk

BTC: Up always

Boniouk84

Long term it’ll equal gold market cap. Is that 10 or 30 years? Not sure but BTC will be a 10x minimum in 5-10 years

MotanulScotishFold

Crypto advantage is that there is no middle man to cover your mistake, you are your own bank if you buy and store BTC to a cold wallet. If you want systems with consumer procetion, you need a middleman, a business like a bank to do that for you.

UrbanGrower187

People act like self-custody is some impossible task when it’s actually pretty straightforward. • Buy a **Ledger** directly from the manufacturer. • Follow the 10-minute setup. • Write down your **24-word recovery phrase** on paper or a metal backup. • Never photograph it, save it digitally, or share it with anyone. • Create a Bitcoin account in Ledger Live with one click. • Transfer your BTC from the exchange to your Ledger address. • Verify the address on the Ledger’s screen before confirming. • Store the Ledger somewhere secure. • That’s it your Bitcoin is protected by your private keys, not an exchange. If your Ledger is ever lost, stolen, or destroyed, you simply buy another compatible hardware wallet and restore it using your 24-word recovery phrase. Your Bitcoin isn’t stored on the device it’s recorded on the blockchain, and the recovery phrase is what gives you access to it.

BashCo

Companies who make wallets with screens (Coldcard, Trezor) argue that without a screen on the signing device, the software app you're using to create your transaction can lie to you, tricking you into signing something you wouldn't normally authorize. For example, suppose I'm a very sophisticated hacker. I create a clone of the Tangem app and trick you into downloading it. Or maybe I'm a disgruntled Tangem employee who slips a malicious function into the official app. The compromised app is identical to the official app and everything looks normal when you go to spend your coin, but on the backend it's replacing the amount and destination address you're sending to with my own information. The app shows that you're sending 0.1BTC to your exchange, but on the backend you're sending your entire wallet balance to an address I control. You happily complete the transaction without realizing that the software is lying to you. This is hypothetical of course, but that's the general argument for having a screen on the device that shows you precisely what you're signing.

MajorAnamika

From that thread: >Cryptocurrency won't be just a currency, it will be everywhere like in payments, internet, vpn, supplychain, games, social media, maps, etc etc. It's the future!! I feel like now we're at a stage similar to how the beginning of internet was like. Also, ETH will flip BTC.

Dangerous_Relief8971

went and checked, half of them said BTC would flip gold by now and half said it'd be worth 0. reddit collectively has the calibration of a magic 8 ball lol

AccomplishedDig4284

You can have firms custody BTC for you. I have two BTC with Fidelity because I don't trust myself with keys. It's not true BTC ownership like the nerds will say, but it works for me.

BetterSeesaw

Bitcoin is dramatically easier to access than stocks. You can buy, sell, or transfer BTC 24/7/365 from anywhere in the world with just a phone and internet — no broker accounts, no trading hours, no paperwork, and no borders. Plus you can self-custody your own keys and truly own it.

Mrvette1

7/10/26... Now what? You have so much faith in BTC that you can't believe a actual person could talk shit about it... You have a problem dude.

BrokenHefaistos

Soon : I proofed BTC can be stolen and have bought a bunker on the bahama's...

Specialist_Trust4945

Except that in the timeframe you're considering BTC was still relatively small (and not as easy to access) compared to stocks. On the other hand, when BTC became "big enough", it started being outpaced by real investments. Let's see in the next 20/30 years if BTC will outperform S&P500, Nasdaq-100 or MSCI World. I'm ready to bet it won't.

Zealousideal_Pool_65

I know it’s too late now, but this is worth remembering for next time: if you can afford to save enough for 0.1 BTC, you can afford to spend $100 on a hardware wallet to keep your assets safe.

RandomPlayerCSGO

How? They don't even have any physical money to steal, unless you can hack their accounts and send yourself transfers to some offshore bank and then convert it to BTC or Monero before police seizes your offshore bank

NoBrosCrypto

3M pounds per BTC in the next year? Let’s keep it real $250K is my expectation. Do I see it reaching the Ms in 5-10 years, absolutely. More than happy to be proven wrong, but there’s a difference between FUD and being realistic.

cyger

Just allocate to various bags. I was very heavy BTC and alts a couple of years ago. Now I'm more like 60% stocks, 35% BTC and 5% alts

Imp-Classic17

The feeling is awful because this also happened to me but at least it was "only" 0.1 BTC

arveena

I find the price Action for how dead this sub is and what is happening in the world actually super encouraging. The stock market scares me more and seems way more inflated than the crypto market. BTC I think is a less risky buy then some AI stocks at the moment

Old-Director-6727

Well, do you understand how much less in market cap Bitcoin is compared to GOLD or any other asset? It's still new historically, and this instability mainly arises from large holdings, that for eg whales and institutions. If Bitcoin had the same volume/market cap as gold, it would have been very much more stable. Comparing gold to BTC is like comparing BTC to a memecoin, which was released two days ago

Capital-Ad8143

spreading FUD like this on the BTC subreddit should be banned, we're looking at £3m within the year, and 5-10 within the next 2.

RandomPlayerCSGO

I have BTC and eth on aave and I take usdt loans against it when I need liquidity

RudeDragonfly4408

Yes that is my intended use. It’s gonna be kept somewhere safe in my room along with the offline written seed phrase. While occasionally sending bought BTC to that address

Get_the_nak

I doubt governments will have a choice. BTC is here to stay. It is happening.

LibertyWithLiquidity

If BTC matches the Mag 7 in market cap, we'd be sitting at $1.1M a coin. And that's only Mag 7, no other stocks, no real estate, no bond market, no gold... You are NOT bullish enough! 🍊📈

sinewgula

Meet them in your local meetup. There are some people who earn in BTC and must sell for living expenses. Try things like Vexl and see if your network is already on it. If not, try to grow your network. Perhaps through the Bitcoin meetup. Some have had success with hodlhodl, robosats, but I haven't yet.

keith976

youre stupid if you think bitcoin cannot be controlled by centralized entities.. sure it cannot be "controlled" in a sense but they can buy up huge amounts of BTC and manipulate the price which gives them control over its value

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, or if you're legit new to what's been going on. People have been talking about the 4 year cycles since around 2014/2015. And it became big when it unfolded exactly again in 2016/2017 with BTC returning from the ashes as predicted. Ever since then, people have made the same predictions. And every time there's always someone that goes, "everyone knows we're gonna have a bullrun in 2021, so we're not gonna have a bullrun". But then the 4 year cycles keep unfolding. You want some posts? It took me 2 seconds to find people talking about "we all know about the 4 year cycle" and about another bullrun in 2021, posted in 2020. [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jwe9p9/cycles/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jwe9p9/cycles/) Here you even have comments about a peak in 2021, and a start of a bullrun in 2024: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ja0arp/the\_case\_against\_lengthening\_cycles\_and\_my/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ja0arp/the_case_against_lengthening_cycles_and_my/) Here's a guy talking about not buying the upcoming bear market in 2022, in a 2021 post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qe7ku3/this\_is\_why\_im\_rarely\_in\_the\_red/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qe7ku3/this_is_why_im_rarely_in_the_red/) This guy precisely talked about the end of the bull market and the bear cycle starting after February 2022, posted in 2020: [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ja0arp/the\_case\_against\_lengthening\_cycles\_and\_my/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ja0arp/the_case_against_lengthening_cycles_and_my/) And there's hundreds more of these. I just picked out of the first few ones that ticked all the boxes.

ShanktarDonetsk

BTC + ETH reached ATH in 2025. You waiting for the altcoin pump that will never come?

MushroomDizzy649

Again, hindsight is 20/20. Even if you perfected those plays, do you think you can keep going? Probably not. You’d hop on one hype train after another and eventually your luck will run out and you’ll be at a point of regret and play a scenario in your mind where you just held BTC from the start.

bananabastard

Only buy BTC, nothing else, and for now, buy on Coinbase and leave it there until you learn more about Bitcoin. I'll be honest, it took me years before I moved out of Coinbase and into self-custody. There's a lot to consider and it's people who rush into it that end up fucking themselves.

wkndatbernardus

I sold my house in 2025 and put most of the proceeds in BTC at ~$105k. Sure, it stings right now because I'm 40% in the red but, i take solace that I'm part of the revolution. Even if Bitcoin collapses, it will have been worth all the losses I incure for the shot at freedom from the tyranny of government controlled money.

FlavalisticSwang

I dont think you guys understand. The money only sits in usdc at 3.5apy for 2-8 months as it is incrementally DCA'd into BTC, after which it is transferred to cold storage. Better for the money to be generating little nibbles of BTC for a few months and/or positioned for deployment in the case of an undeniable dip, and to be rotting away as cash.

Puzzled-Rip641

\> Do you understand how to wire A/C electricity in your home? Do you understand how TCP/IP enables you to download stuff from the internet? Probably not, and every company making money from these technologies will be fine if you never learn. No because those things won’t completely fuck me over with one mistake on my end with zero recourse. \> This is why your Visa credit card is happy if you keep paying them interest to borrow money that doesn't retain value in exchange for their protection while they implement crypto rails for payments to take advantage of programmable money. I’m super happy with the safety and security my visa credit card gives me. A fun hack with credit cards is if you pay your bill theu don’t charge you interest….. \> Bitcoin just happens to be an international standard that cannot be controlled by central banks to inflate away the value - it can only be changed by network consensus. Billionaires cannot bribe their way to primacy in a public ledger without people knowing and everyone who learns about how it works will have an advantage, whether they can afford to hoard BTC or not. Yea it’s perfect, expect for the fact you can lose everything with one mistake and you have zero recourse……..

jgarcya

The crypto market moves according to bitcoins four year cycle . In year four of the cycle BTC loses 70-80% from its all time high.... We are in year four. Around Jan 2027...the cycle restarts.. cycles are measured low to low... The first two years of the cycle are accumulation years, and year three is the peak. Now... Knowing this .. why would you sell in the year that it tanks... When three years from now crypto will be peaking again. Since all crypto indirectly follows BTC... It would be unwise to sell ADA now, bc next year it should climb back up... Will ada peak again at $3??? Maybe... But most likely not .. But I'm willing to say Ada will be higher in price in 2027-2030.... Than it is today... Long story short... Sell today get massive loses...sell during next cycle get some gains back. Or just sell and harvest the tax loss over decades.

bruce_cockburn

I never suggested it would be mass adopted. Do you understand how to wire A/C electricity in your home? Do you understand how TCP/IP enables you to download stuff from the internet? Probably not, and every company making money from these technologies will be fine if you never learn. This is why your Visa credit card is happy if you keep paying them interest to borrow money that doesn't retain value in exchange for their protection while [they implement crypto rails for payments to take advantage of programmable money](https://www.visa.com/en-us/solutions/stablecoins). Bitcoin just happens to be an international standard that cannot be controlled by central banks to inflate away the value - it can only be changed by network consensus. Billionaires cannot bribe their way to primacy in a public ledger without people *knowing* and everyone who learns about how it works will have an advantage, whether they can afford to hoard BTC or not.

MariachiArchery

If I could get the Monday news paper delivered on Sunday, I'd be able to tell you what is priced in, and what isn't. But, alas, I cannot. This is always the answer to these questions, or in other words, no one knows shit about fuck. It sounds so stupid, it's not the answer you are looking for, but it's the answer you need to hear, man. No. One. Knows. Full stop. Are the midterms priced in? Yeah, to some extent, but there are dozens of micro and macro economic conditions that could swing it way up or way down either before or after, and it really just all comes down to market vibes. The midterms are just one tiny part of the valuation. For example, SpaceX holds a bunch of BTC that is now publicly disclosed, the stock is down 25% since the IPO. They also just moved some BTC. If they dump, Musk makes a move, the market probably freaks out. And there is absolutely no way in hell to see that coming, at all. If that happens, the market freaks, then whether or not the midterms are priced in means absolutely nothing. The secret to all of this? Time in the market. We will always come back to this.

MikeOuchie

This is exactly what i was thinking of doing. VOO, BTC, then gold/silver/etc for a low correlated portfolio. Just sucks b/c my last big buy was BTC, but that’s the lowest of the three so i guess i’m buying more of that instead of diversifying. Really like Monero too since it’s untraceable and an OG coin now. I feel like it’s one of the few with good utility

Physical-Title-9442

Just wait bro. October/november BTC 50k

Distinct-Presence52

Suuurrrreeee... But was he? He could have never been buying BTC for all you know.

PeaceAgitated1978

Yeah . Old story. Quantum computing attacking BTC before easier targets? Normals banks accounts are so easier to drain for a fact. Why try to break BTC? And keep traditionnal finances? They are outdated. And actually actively being phased out 🤔🤣 since the treat that quantum computing and "regulars AI" are imposing on them.. Anyway, do your own researchs as usual. And believe only what you want to. The same applies for everyone 🤷

Supermoon62413

I wasn’t over leveraged in BTC.

Ms_TitAdorable

I DCA a fixed amount every payday regardless of the price. If BTC drops significantly, I might add a little extra, but I don't try to perfectly time the market

PrizeAsleep6133

Of, for, and by the node runners (people). BIP 110 to prevent turning your node into a public file storage dumping ground! Make BTC money again! Fight big government; protest by running a BIP 110 node; and Miners Signal For IT!!

JustMortalSoul

It’s funny that regret will come either way. Today you regret not selling at the top but may be few months down the road you will regret not buying at current prices. Regret will never leave you 😬 Either way I regret not finding the magic ball that can tell me when to buy and when to sell… Did anybody find that magic ball? Only way to deal with regret is changing perspective and make BTC price irrelevant and see it as a technology that can change the future of financial industry

UzItOrLuzIt

OP was worried about extortion risk of self-custody, I offered building a protective barrier of bankers between themselves and would-be attackers via a fund. You took it to another tier of conspiracy tho, in which the bankers are complicit. I argue, nobody here need worry about that level of conspiracy. Sharks don't bother to look at minnows...not even remotely worth their time. The entirety of the BTC market is a pittance when compared to other markets. If a banker is dirty, they won't risk their hide going after us when we are a drop on the bucket compared to fiat opportunities.

JayJames29

Dm me and I can sell you my BTC and USDT

anontalk

0.1 BTC would have bought land in the country side

xilepandora

If you are lucky to be in a country with BTC or ETH ATMs you can deposit cash and transfer to a wallet you have then trade onchain via decentralized exchanges or Hyperliquid

Mrvette1

Lol, you won't listen to a guy who creates a fake profile picture about you buying a fake investment? Go tell you're that while you're looking in the mirror. Why i think BTC will hit 15k before 150k. Because BTC will never hit 150k. It will fail when enough folks lose faith in it and as it happens it will keep on dropping.

r33gna

0.1 BTC and you didn't consider buying an actual hardware wallet? Damn.

Mrvette1

I'm going off what I heard, so I'm sure there are more then what I heard from a year or two ago. I know only 21 or 22 million can ever be made. You're not addressing my argument that btc is shit. Only really helping it. California has 14.6 million housing units. There are more btc then houses in California. A house you can fucking live in. Touch and see.... BTC is nothing. If all BTC goes away society would be unaffected. Go buy something real.

kshucker

It’s more likely that you clicked on some bullshit link that you thought was legit but wasn’t and then it drained your account. Your BTC is gone nothing you can do about it.

kepalautakkau

I mean if BTC starts pumpin, most alts are probably gonna follow anyway. Why DOGE though?

FitCompetition1804

If the S ever HTF, you’ll wish you had self custodial BTC. I know most don’t think like that, but that’s what makes it a unique asset. With ETF’s or leaving it on an exchange, you lose that aspect of Bitcoin ownership.

NoBrosCrypto

Just remember that when you sell the top, you pay tax. I did the maths. Let’s say I bought $10K worth at BTC $25K and made 5X by selling the absolute top $125K. So now I have $50K and made $40K net profit. $12-15K in tax. So now I have $35K total left to buy back in. If I just held, my BTC dropped in value to $25K since it’s about half the high. I’m only $10K ahead with a whole lot of risk if I timed it incorrectly. Then with the $35K I have to time the absolute bottom whilst being completely out of BTC. Would I have held out to $60K?? Or would I have jumped back in at $80K? In which case I’d be about on par having not sold anything. Always easy in hindsight but the reality is different. HODL is easier and less stressful. Hope the above gives you comfort.

Gears6

> Like a true BTC maximalist Just hope quantum computer doesn't have a sudden leap in advancement rendering BTC broken.

Gears6

The other one is, you buy at $30k, it goes to $90k, you now think it's a winner and you cash in some. Then it goes to $120k and then you won't buy, only for it to go $150k. Ever seen that pattern? I see it way to often in stocks, and my trick is to evaluate it based on what new information exist. Problem with BTC is, it doesn't have as much information, and is entirely dependent on demand. There's no inherent value, or production of anything really. So it's much harder to determine.

Gears6

> I keep replaying it in my head. I had chances to sell high last year and just... didn't. Told myself I was in it for the long haul, that timing the top was a fool's game, all the usual HODL logic. And on one level I still believe that. But some nights I do the math on what I left on the table and it stings. I am still a Bitcoin maxi but I'm constantly thinking I could have doubled my BTC in a single year. Like anything, you learn. I've done that a few times with stock. One time, I earned $400k on a stock. Didn't take the gain, and figured I'm in for the long haul. Saw the stock shrink to a fraction of that, and now I'm taking a gain of $150k instead many years later. Learning from that, I now take some gain off the table, and go after more lucrative opportunities. With that said, you cannot agonize over something you don't know. You could've sold the BTC at $80k and at $120k you could've said damn, I lost out on 50% growth! 👀 So the rule I have is, buy things when they seem low (based on whatever metric you use since BTC is hard to evaluate) and sell some when they seem overpriced. Then also don't solely rely on a single source of investment, especially something as risky as BTC. In other words, I sold some stocks recently and bought some BTC. I'm contrarian.

NoBrosCrypto

That’s your price target for BTC? I would agree there’s a future where we see that become a reality.

Guy-Lambo

I agree with this. Personally the fomo of BTC running up hurts more than buying and seeing BTC drop 30-50% for me.

wgcole01

What regret? I last bought BTC in 2019 at around $3400. I'm always up.

MarioWilson122

I can see some people adding ETH to that list, or even SOL. But after last cycle, it's hard to really argue against BTC being the pick if we only get one, especially if it's a large amount of money in it.

MinimumWrong6961

Sell half, keep half in. Buy cheaper BTC during bear market

Siludin

A subjective shitpost about a meme shitcoin with no technical merit, intended at its base level to devalue itself into irrelevance, and its comparison with BTC.

Simke11

So if you expect new BTC ATH, why not just buy BTC and get that 2-3x without gambling on a shitcoin for the same potential return?

patsfan2019

Longtime holder and believer. Bought through the ups and downs, including ATHs. Since 2014 I have never sold for a gain, not once. I have sold specific lots when the realized loss is >15% then immediately repurchase at the lower price. With no wash sale rule applying to crypto this results in a tax loss to offset income while preserving my total BTC total (minus 1% buy/sell fees) and driving down total BTC holding avg cost. BTC price volatility and no wash sale rule presents a unique tool, only downside is the fees, and I only sell and realize a loss when the tax gain offset is greater \~ 3x fees.

ChicksX

I agree BTC and stablecoins have the clearest long-term roles, but I wouldn’t say every meme coin is dead forever. DOGE is just a very different thesis. It’s more liquidity, community, and speculation than fundamentals. It can definitely pump again in a risk-on market, but calling it a “no brainer” is where I’d be careful. Position sizing matters a lot with coins like this.

Independent-Box-451

Wntr yeildmax bought btc at 82k..bought 28k worth. And been buy more wntr ever time btc hits 63500. So far so good. Im out of WNTR when BTC hit 55k

ImZappy

That's for you to decide; it's a very personal thing. Some people have the idea of holding forever, which I can understand if you believe in BTC super long term; me personally, I will probs sell a large amount of my stack in 5-10years, whenever I have enough money to buy a nice house tbh. Something you gotta answer for yourself

Remarkable_Ad5011

When my BTC value equals my mortgage balance, I am selling. Now, it’s looking like they may intersect at about $0. 🤪😂

PeaceAgitated1978

It's way more about buying the best amount of out of the old system in terms of BTC quantity. Of course as long as $ are still backing the whole economy.. there's a use to trade BTC against US $ 🤷 it's still a net accruance of net worth if you win your Trades.. but trading isn't for everyone... Investing on the other side.. is for everyone and should have been since way back then . Only some people seems to have strayed from common sense. Or sometimes, they have been strayed from the right investments by their own advisors at Banksfor less and less risks.. but risk is rewards equivalent. And not having the best rewards make sure you end up below the average debasement of your currency. And that word is the best one to truly understand. Debasement is you paying for the gov. Debt upright via net buying power of yours being stolen by your government while he just printed endless amounts of cash . To pay / roll his debt further away. So yeah.. minimum you should have as a return on my end of it? An average of 16% / year.. beating the broad indexes.. SP 500.. or so.. first step to not being fully stolen of your purchasing power.. next step is estimating how much does you should have been investing.. so that you still have something left to ease your life after you have worked out your full working time.. aka slaving your way 🤷

ucbcawt

BTC is out of fashion-those using it as an investment have moved on to things like memory stocks. I don’t see it going to 200k for a long time if ever

LionRivr

Corny question gets corny response. And the real answer isn’t simple. Everyone’s different. 1. Are you selling just for short term trading profits? 2. How much? All of it? A portion? 3. Are you trying to time the top to buy back in later? 4. Will you regret if it keeps going up without you? 5. Do we know if the 4-year cycle is guaranteed? 6. Are you selling because you need to make a payment? 7. Is it even worth selling when accounting for taxes based on where you live? 8. Short term capital gains tax? Long term capital gains tax? 9. Can you just spend the BTC wherever you need to? Most likely not. But will you wait until that point? 10. Are you selling to chase another speculative bet?

Gr8WallofChinatown

It’s possible but why the fuck would I do that? You know why people don’t use bitcoin as a currency? It’s because why would someone pay with something that might go up in value. Aka the bitcoin pizza story. Why would I pay a fee converting fiat into BTC, pay transfer fees, all to pay a bill? You’re behind in times. People gave up on BTC as a currency since 2015

Ketroc21

Next year you could be thinking: "why didn't I sell at $60k when I had the chance?". No one knows where BTC is going. It's silly to regret not knowing the unknowable last year.