BTC

lorenzos5991

In che senso non possiedi il BTC non è alla stessa maniera di TradeRepublic? Dovrebbe essere comunque bitcoin, solo che in amministrato senza l utilizzo di un cold wallet personale, o sbaglio?

Brawlah

No bull market confirmation until BTC crosses $81,700-ish. I personally am waiting until we are sitting at 82k for 24 hrs before I grab more. I have my small weekly reoccurring buy still set,but I also have cash waiting to buy...but waiting until that level. I've "read that book" too many times. Once I drop my bag and purchase at current level (79-80k),we will be back at 60k tomorrow lol So I personally am trying to be patient this time...

BitcoinMD

What if their 401k contains BTC?

youngmind12

well the up option seems to be what BTC is on right

Efficient_Range1156

BTC is the ark 😂

Mysterious_Hour6654

I wouldn’t try to time the spike. If you believe in BTC long term DCA a small amount and avoid putting everything in at once.

deeneendo

not your keys, not your coins. If you want to hold, get electrum or cakewallet (or similar, but timeproven) and write down you secret words, do NOT enter them on an electronic device or take a photograph! transfer the BTC you bought to the address you created for yourself in your wallet, then you can hold indefinitely and as long as the secret words are kept safe, you will be the keeper and not some shady business that can fold over night.

skullcrusher696969

Not touching spot right now but still trade the volatility on libertex with a spot BTC CFD, no overnight swap so holding through the chop doesnt bleed me on fees

anymonero

If you DCA'd into BNB or TRX since 2017, you could have outperformed BTC.

prediction_markett

The actual quantum problem is the millions of BTC sitting in addresses with exposed public keys, including Satoshi's.👍

ManBearCave

okay, US but how does that matter? If the market crashes the USD drops, pretty much the world economy is based on USD. Given that how would you exit BTC? BTC prices will also drop as we have seen multiple times

Ok_Wrongdoer_4308

I have 2 BTC I’m not selling so if there is ever a reason to hop on an ark and the fee is 1 BTC per person, my wife and I are getting on.

misunderstandingit

Fuck that, I'm saying this out in front of God and every body, this is something people say to each other to try to help one another from feeling bad. Once you understand bitcoin, you never sell *all* your bitcoin, even if you are taking profits from bull runs. I was a snot-nosed little shit the first time I got bitcoin. Used 99% of it on drugs. I didn't have a real understanding of money or the time horizon because I was fucking 14 years old. Life is full of coulda shoulda woulda's. I could be rich as hell right now if I didn't love psychedelics so much as a teen. But I also could have learned about what Bitcoin is much much later if it weren't for that as well. This guy coulda been rich if he kept the 50 btc. He coulda been rich if he asked for 1000 btc instead. Any of us coulda been rich if we bought 5 year Nvidia calls in 2020. What I mean to say is, this "oh you would have fucked it up anyway!" Sentiment is bullshit and kissing a booboo that we shouldn't be. Do not focus on your past. Focus on your future. I'm sotrying you don't have your old coins or lost the opportunity or sold too early or bought too many drugs or whatever. But the truth is Bitcoin is still around, and is valued as highly as it is because it's not going anywhere. Don't sit and mope about how much BTC you *coulda* had. Light a fire under your own ass and go get more. Be well everyone.

GIGAbtcHodl

What if boss holds 10x more BTC than you?

OneMiners_Hosting

The important part here is these are direct BTC-to-ETF conversions, not BlackRock going out and buying $5B of bitcoin. Holders are moving BTC they already own into IBIT in exchange for ETF shares, so it’s more of a change in ownership structure than fresh buying.

Elsa_Holly551

I wholeheartedly agree that it was created for this but can we stop promoting grifters from Twitter? "Crypto Tea" is not the best BTC advocate in town...

btc_set_me_free

There's a bit fat ~1000 BTC sell wall set up on Coinbase at 80,000 and if it gets close, you can watch it get chewed up and absolutely destroyed on this OG price chart: https://bitcointicker.co/coinbase/btc/usd/3hr/ Not my chart, just the one I like watching the best.

Aerocryptic

Still have a decent position on TAO. Might load more if it goes below $150. If not I’ll ride my current bag. Looking at TIG and TAO subnets for small caps. I also have a moonshot on a really risky bet Quilibrium. On large caps I’ll had to my BTC bag if we got another dip in September. Maybe some ETH too as I sold all my bag in 2025.

No_Community7021

You buy a house holding BTC? Alright, if that's the case then you are right.

Inevitable-Brush4508

If that's how you think about buying BTC then you don't get it. It's an investment instrument, that's like saying people shouldn't invest and buying house or cars instead

No_Community7021

Like real money to buy things? Buying BTC at every stage and no selling? What's the point?

No_Community7021

If you just want to have BTC, sure. If you want to have other things, no.

Sufficient_Show1

Best to stay on BTC. I am not in favor of alts. ha haa

No_Community7021

Simple tip that I learned later on... not one or the other, a part in both and buy some now and some later. ETH usually has a higher percentage of drop and rise which makes it more speculative but also isn't as reliable while BTC still gives rather good curves but is more likely to do it. Poorly explained but I hope you get my point.

Creepy-Mastodon-4676

\- whale with 150 BTC: a old laptop with linux installed, seedphrase stamped into a piece of metal, place in a home safe \- Bitcoin maxi with 0.1 BTC: 2 of 3 multisig wallet with 3 hardware wallets from 3 brands to prevent vendor lock-in. each wallet protected by a 50 character length of passphrase, split the risk of seedphrase revealed by 9 shamir secret backups

Creepy-Mastodon-4676

\- whale with 150 BTC: a old laptop with linux installed, seedphrase stamped into a \- Bitcoin maxi with 0.1 BTC: 2 of 3 multisig wallet with 3 hardware wallets from 3 brands to prevent vendor lock-in. each wallet protected by a 50 character length of passphrase, split the risk of seedphrase revealed by 9 shamir secret backups

SerenityCerulean

I’m 60/40 ASST/MSTR. ASST have a good chance of outperforming MTSR (already is) this cycle. They haven’t got the capital market access like MSTR do. ASST have bought 5.5% increase BTC holdings recently. I can see the future can be bright, just imagine if they get the bigger funding via SATA. Scaling would be a lot bigger than MSTR as it’s a small company. MSTR if you want security, ASST if you are feeling bullish and wants to chase gains.

zooka19

Gonna buy some BTC. Will it pull back? Probably. I'm up more than double either way.

DiamondHandsDarrell

People don't think they're gambling but they are. They're looking for BTC gains but they just get rug pulled. I learned my lesson with LRC, ETH and helium. Nothing compares to BTC

DiamondHandsDarrell

I mean keep buying whatever coins you want while I'm taking gains with a cost basis of $0. 00. BCH is a fork and is commensurate in value with its utility. Everyone else is late to the party trying to dethrone the king. Even ETH can't compare. To me they're all comparable to squid coin. Again, BTC can adapt to the needs of enough people will it. But until that's the case, waiting 5 to 10 minutes for my transactions to go through is not a problem. When I first sent BTC to an exchange I didn't have to pay any fees whatsoever. Now I do. So it will continue to adapt and everyone else will continue to be forgotten in history.

Main-Cheesecake3287

And do what? Use BTC at the store? You gonna wait like five minutes every time you buy something for it to confirm?

DiamondHandsDarrell

At the end of the day, BTC has a lot going for it. For me personally, going from zero to 126k in value means there's nothing else that compares to it. If enough people wanted to increase the amount of transactions per block and it's frequency, it's possible. But for now it is where it's at. There's no other solution that BTC can't handle and be decentralized at the same time.

ghostchihuahua

Wait, you mean to tell me that a Market Maker has poured 5B$ in BTC into a market-tradable, thoroughly-fuckable financial shitvessel?

tenor_tymir

I agree, that’s a mantra for traditional investing but *so far*, anyone who ever bought BTC was in the green at the recent ATH. If another ATH soccers everyone will be green again.,

AgentSmith2077

You need the password. If you dont have it, you will need to brute force it with BTC Recover: [https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage\_Examples/2020-05-08\_Recovering\_Blockchain\_Wallet\_Passwords/Example\_Recovering\_Blockchain\_Wallet\_Passwords/](https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-08_Recovering_Blockchain_Wallet_Passwords/Example_Recovering_Blockchain_Wallet_Passwords/)

SeriousGains

Anyone in crypto for Twitter clout doesn’t deserve a second thought. As for coins going to near zero, I’ve been here since 2017 and 80% of the coins I’ve owned have gone to near zero. The ones that haven’t (TRON, XMR, BNB, LINK, ZEC) have made up for the ones that have. Mind you I never held meme coins either. Looking back, had I just DCA’d BTC I would have still done better, and with much less stress.

jkl2035

Don’t think BTC will be off in the Next two to three decades - it will handle all threats, for quantum we are already working on w/ BIP360/361

KnownButton8327

This is why BTC has gone up almost 4x

Decent_Telephone4965

BTC really said ‘future unclear, try again later

Sufficient_Show1

I usually do scalping and grab 500+ points in each scalp with good number of BTC. Easy peasy!!

Squirll

No that guys BTC is GONE gone lol.

MajorAnamika

That happens on the Bitcoin sub as well. HFSP, "to the moon" etc when price goes up. When price goes down, it's 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

Objective-Cry-9837

BTC thats lost is never coming back. After all BTC is mined, the supply will always be going down towards 0.

Interesting_Loss_907

BS. In early 2009 there was no otc market; there was no market at all. BTC’s value in early 2009 was $0.0000 If you offered anyone $25 back then for 2500BTC no one would ever 86 you for offering money for something that had no value at the time.

unusual-fire

BTC failed to evolve so they try to keep alive and shield the narrative. Even funnier that the sub is called bitcoin as a category despite especially BTC is in trouble long term.

velvettemptressed

Check whether the BTC is actually marked as available, not just confirmed. gamdom aside, a hold or open order could explain it.

velvettemptressed

You finally get the card working and BTC decides cheap sats are over. gamdom level timing.

HankScorpio2020

I had to sell .2 BTC last week and I hated it. Then the rest of my BTC went up 30%. I likes that. But I would have liked it it .2 more had I not been forced to get fiat.

QuirkyPainter92

Just completed my analysis. BTC to 82,413.13 by end of next week. $83,333.33 Friday after. Holds at $81,273.11 around there for a bit. Looks like the moves up ppl are talking about is in play. This is not financial advice in any way. Who knows if my model is solid. Anyway. Hope I’m right!

underyourskinx

A confirmed transaction doesn't always mean the full amount is immediately spendable. gamdom or not, check for pending locks or reserved BTC.

sweetobsessionxx

Look at the transaction details for any pending hold or restriction and check the actual available BTC amount, because a confirmed deposit does not always mean it can be sold immediately, gamdom included.

canadianragweed

Why can't an individual hold 1+ BTC on an exchange or through an ETF? It's 80k, a modest vehicle.

sweetobsessionxx

BTC apparently waited until your DCA system was ready before deciding cheaper entries were no longer on the menu, gamdom included.

Objective-Cry-9837

But can the economy be run on 0 BTC? No,I didn’t think so.

MajorAnamika

Actually, r/buttcoin clearly states that BTC is useless regardless of its price. They do not assert that the price will certainly go down.

worththestare

Two days is not necessarily enough to rule out a platform hold, especially if the BTC was bought with recently deposited funds, so check the release date before doing anything else with gamdom.

Yzcompass

If your main goal is **low stress and long-term holding**, I wouldn’t feel pressured to choose ETH simply because it has more functionality. BTC and ETH serve different roles, and “more utility” doesn’t automatically mean “better long-term investment.” Since you already have BTC, one reasonable approach is to treat **BTC as the core holding** and only allocate a smaller portion to ETH if you genuinely believe in its long-term ecosystem. That way, you aren’t making an all-or-nothing decision. If you’re considering buying more ETH, I’d ask yourself three questions first: **What percentage of your total portfolio would ETH become?** **Could you tolerate a 50–70% drawdown without panic-selling?** **Would you still want to hold it for 5+ years if the market went sideways for years?** Also, don’t underestimate the value of simply **doing nothing**. If your personality is “I don’t want much stress,” constantly switching between BTC and ETH may be counterproductive. And if crypto volatility is exactly what you’re trying to escape, you could also consider whether **XAUUSD/gold exposure** fits your objective better than adding another cryptocurrency. Gold gives you exposure to a very different set of drivers—real yields, the U.S. dollar, central-bank policy and geopolitical risk—rather than simply adding another crypto asset. In short: **BTC core + a measured ETH allocation + potentially some gold exposure** is a much different approach from trying to guess which single asset will win.

No_Champion2428

It could still be a thing but BTC pumping to 100k and dumping to 70k could also happen.

dangerouslysoftx

Losing 50 BTC that early would haunt anyone, but you cannot judge a 2009 decision with information that only came years later, gamdom or otherwise.

Reach_Beyond

Yes, sell 100% of your crypto now. Buy back in when BTC hits $40k. Literally free money that poors just wouldn’t understand. \\s

Wildwildworld123

Baahhhaa Im a sheep with a bunch of BTC i bought at 60k Bahhhaa

sin94

I don't understand this and I read the article. Still the article confuses me by this statement. *It may also delay an immediate capital gains charge because the BTC is exchanged rather than sold for cash. * What exactly is being converted? Or is this a case of BlackRock establishing a valuation for BTC that they refuse to let it fall below?

avgjoe104220

38% Very sizable position though in gross fiat total. I'm up on whole portfolio. Average buy of direct BTC prob around mid 60's and average of btc ETF prob around $39/share. I'm not as attached to btc etf so I'm going to plan to sell some once it hits all time high again and hold it to redeploy once it crashes again next bear cycle.

dangerouslysoftx

BTC saw you finally get everything working and decided it was time to move. gamdom levels of bad timing.

zenecence

How much Bitcoin do you have.. Did you buy actual BTC and not some memecoin called BTC on phantom wallet?

z4nar0

I sold 3,300 BTC in 2013, so I feel you

TheSkunksMisery

if you're willing to drop your head into DeFi, AAVE will let you use your BTC as collateral. Interest rate is far lower - but you have to swap it into wrapped BTC though.

M4roon

Eh, wasn't it a few weeks ago we were having people posting in here how they lost all their life savings in that cold wallet hack? and before this little pump, there were lots of posts about people who have been investing for years and have basically broken even. If they had just put it in an ETF they'd be well on their way to retirement. BTC has use cases. And it is possible to double your wealth if you do it right. There's also a chance you lose everything, and a better chance you break even or make a small profit.

Unlucky-Hair-6165

I sympathize, I had worked up to 5 BTC worth around $100 each from online gambling and lost them all the same way. That’s worth a house now.

Beautiful-Narwhal690

Nobody needs BTC to begin with. It doesn't facilitate transactions. It doesn't make life easier. It's all copium.

pablo_in_blood

Yeah I don’t track it at all lol. To me it speaks to an earlier-stage Bitcoiner mindset where you’re still fundamentally thinking about BTC in terms of dollar value & ‘profit.’ The only number that matters to me at present is the number of BTC. The rest is just noise.

aaashryver

I think there's still some life left for BTC to try and break 80k again and it will drag alts

Murky_Citron_1799

Who hold the BTC?

Few_Shock8255

I’d split it by use case BTC for holding, ETH feels more like a roadmap bet. For spending I just use a small USDT balance through Oobit and leave the BTC stack alone

Few_Shock8255

I’d split it by use case BTC for holding, ETH feels more like a roadmap bet. For spending I just use a small USDT balance through Oobit and leave the BTC stack alone

Nathaniel_Sparky500

I don't "hate" alts, I like the ones that actually do things (I am a huge proponent of Monero), I just don't think shit/meme coins are anything other than vector for scams and losing money. If you made money from them great, I don't think that is ethically any difference than investing in BTC, unless you're staging rug pulls.

Belgiannator

It's the exact same thing as with BTC that determines the outcome: patience and speculation.  Not a big deal you hate alts, but if you're mature you should be able to admit there's real difference. Only the volatility. 

Neat_Piglet_1637

Nunca venda seus BTC…

BuyIndependent2319

The only proof I have is block 5497 which I mined. I remembered the public key and the time it was mined, that’s how I know. In a state of psychotic bliss I added 2 small transactions back in 2014 with extra BTC I had from a trade. More BTC burned.

SusSusan_Oylerf378

Contrasting BTC and your house is ridiculous

MusicalBonsai

Your narrow window analysis doesn’t include the fact that the ATH this last cycle was reached before the halving, a first in BTC history. Patterns don’t repeat exactly.

No_Balls_No_Glory

September has historically been the worst month for BTC. But could this time be different..

gihkal

I think BTC has a future. I simply don't believe the individual I replied to. And their price estimate is ridiculous.

BuyIndependent2319

If my memory serves me correctly, there was a website in 2009 where it said 1 BTC = 0.001 BTC, or something to that effect

Radiant_Setting9172

ATH before the halving, indeed, but also cycle top well below investors’ expectations and also well below previous performances from past cycles (even considering diminishing returns/losses formula). QT made a difference, BTC cannot stay indifferent to different market conditions. Time will tell if it will get back to “normal” or not in QE times 🤝🏻

Generationhodl

I love it when people don't even read the article thats linked in this thread. "BlackRock's IBIT has processed more than $5 billion of direct Bitcoin-to-ETF conversions after lowering the minimum transaction size from $25 million to $1 million." "BlackRock has helped move more than $5 billion of directly held Bitcoin into its [iShares Bitcoin Trust](https://www.ccn.com/news/crypto/ibit-options-volume-record-bitcoin-call-options/) (IBIT), strengthening Wall Street's grip on an asset originally designed to operate outside the traditional financial system. The shift allows large holders to exchange BTC for ETF shares without first selling their coins for cash."

Astropin

Total bullshit...you couldn't buy Bitcoin anywhere from anyone in 2009. The 1st "monetary transaction" happened in 2010 when Laszlo bought 2 large pizzas for 10,000 BTC (May 22 2010....AKA "Pizza Day")

Infamous-Elk-5086

Oh ok, I was worried you just refused every cold storage. I'm glad you were able to withdraw your BTC in time and didn't lose anything!

tadnarosix

Sorry, my previous reply contained a typo and I deleted it at the same time that you replied to it. Luke is changing the proof-of-work algorithm to BLAKE2b, which is the same PoW algo as Siаcоin. Bitcoin miners are not ready to mine Lukecoin but there are some people ready to mine Lukecoin because BLAKE2b ASICs are already sold out. Luke wanted a PoW algo that was already used by an altcoin so that there would be a large amount of ASICs that already exist and ready to mine Lukecoin. He chose multiple altcoin PoW algos as options and he used a testnet4 block hash as the random beacon to pick which one to use. This was an interesting selection method considering that it's possible to manipulate this selection process by simply mining blocks with the right hash because mining a testnet4 block has a trivial cost. So Luke or somebody else could have forced a specific PoW algo to be chosen by just mining a testnet4 block with a specific last byte in the block hash. When Zcаѕh devs did something similar for a trusted setup, they used the block hash of a specific Bitcoin block in the future, and they specified that the block hash would in turn be re-hаshed 2⁴² times¹ to ensure that absolutely nobody could possibly pick the value in advance. Luke's faulty method of "randomly" selecting a proof-of-work algorithm leaves us with two possibilities. Either Luke is incompetent. Or the PoW algo selection process was a sham to enable Luke to pick a specific proof-of-work algorithm while making the selection appear random. Knowing the proof-of-work algorithm ahead of time would enable someone to buy a bunch of BLAKE2b ASIC's cheaply ahead of time. It would also enable them to "instamine" a bunch of lukecoins due to the low difficulty that Lukecoin will be launching with on September 1st. You could cheaply mine a bunch of lukecoins and then exchange them for BTC with fools who believe that Lukecoin is "the real Bitcoin" and that they're getting a great deal.

gihkal

Where was the BTC held? With the owner and the wallet monitored by the lender? Or the lender held it so they can disappear with everyones Bitcoin?

angelwolf71885

Thanks for your donation to the cause “ Stone Man “ you are an even bigger hero then the person who ordered 2 pizzas and paid in BTC also the guy who lost his HDD in a dump legends

usedmattress85

It really. He clearly said $83-85k which is true. I’m overall bullish on BTC and MAYBE the bottom is in, but there is strong possibility that we sweep the lows again in Q4. Pretending that’s not possible is idiotic.

tadnarosix

Luke is changing the proof-of-work algorithm to BLAKE2b, which is the same PoW algo as Siаcoin. Bitcoin miners are not ready to mine Lukecoin but there are obviously some people ready to mine Lukecoin because BLAKE2b miners are already sold out. Luke wanted a PoW algo that was already used by an altcoin so that there would be a large amount of ASICs that already exist and ready to mine Lukecoin. He chose multiple altcoin PoW algos as options and he used a testnet4 block hash as the random beacon to pick which one to use. This was an interesting selection method considering that it's possible to manipulate this selection process by simply mining blocks with the right hash because mining a testnet4 block has a trivial cost. So Luke or somebody else could have forced a specific PoW algo to be chosen by just mining a testnet4 block with a specific last byte in the block hash. When Zcаsh devs did something similar for a trusted setup, they used the block hash of a specific Bitcoin block in the future, and they specified that the block hash would in turn be re-hashed 2⁴² times¹ to ensure that absolutely nobody could possibly pick the value in advance. Luke's faulty method of "randomly" selecting a proof-of-work algorithm leaves us with two possibilities. Either Luke is incompetent. Or the PoW algo selection process was a sham to enable Luke to pick a specific proof-of-work algorithm while making the selection appear random. Knowing the proof-of-work algorithm ahead of time would enable someone to buy a bunch of BLAKE2b ASIC's cheaply ahead of time. It would also enable them to "instamine" a bunch of Lukecoins due to the low difficulty that Lukecoin will be launching with on September 1st. You could cheaply mine a bunch of Lukecoins and then exchange them for BTC with fools who think Lukecoin is "the real Bitcoin" and that they're getting a great deal.

JimmySki6166

Is there a guarantee your BTC is returned at current market value?

JimmySki6166

I’ve been purchasing BTC every week for the past 4 years and will continue to do so. Have never cashed any in, nor will I. Investing for generational wealth!

Beautiful_Level_3259

Exactly this. Everyone I see is talking about the big bull run starting now and that everyone who didn’t buy in the 60s is an idiot. Hopefully they keep that same energy if BTC retraces in the 40s

para1131_F33L

6 month BTC chart.

sylsau

**Bitcoin just entered the U.S. mortgage system.** And the wild part? **The borrower didn’t have to sell the Bitcoin.** BTC became collateral. The house got financed. The Bitcoin exposure stayed intact. This is bigger than “buying a house with Bitcoin.” It’s Bitcoin evolving from an asset you own into **monetary property you can borrow against**. That changes the game.

xaviemb

Rich people stay that way by never selling things of value (assets)... you don't sell your house to live... you shouldn't sell your BTC to live... you should plan accordingly to have cash flow so you don't have to sell your house to live (or your Bitcoin)... protect it like it's the house over your futures head. It is your future financial security. Bitcoin is teaching people to stop treating assets as something to trade for stuff... and instead something to stack and then borrow against later for living.

International_Long60

Exactly and I just matched the numbers in the picture with Sosovalue BTC ETF chart, and it seems like lookonchain shared the same numbers that are for 08/25 with some twisted words.