BTC

Reasonable_Band1536

Come on, Guy. I’m part of the class of ‘25. I jumped in around $110,000 on the way up. I know better than to touch alts. I’m also a maxi and do believe that gold and silver are doing so well is the pressure from BTC. Old money is forcing that narrative.

Bigdyll13

IN MY OPINION...Everyone here is going to say yes but it depends on your personal case and your accessibility/ease of liquidity out of BTC in the case you would need to spend these funds in haste. In short, it would be an effective means to transfer the wealth from them to you. You may have difficulty using the Bitcoin *PRACTICALLY* and you would be paying fees to exchange for fiat if you need to do that to pay bills/local grocers/etc that don't accept btc. Not certain if the compensation method was set in an agreement prior to the work being executed but...I would have had a clear indication of how, where, and when my compensation was to be delivered upon completion. If you can afford to take this payment and hold it in BTC, I say that would be excellent. If you need to spend the money to live, I wouldn't take any amount of payment in BTC that would create difficulty down the road. Budget. BTC is just not quite there yet. One year from now could be a totally different story. N.F.A.

Rigid-Daisy

Done I collected my $10 winnings this Mae’s BTC more useful

HouseOfFlowers

So I have a question, what if in 5 / 10 years time this company "Trezor" does not exist? Then what happens with your device and how would one move BTC on and off the device?

Fine_Entertainment97

My aunt’s gift this year was a ‘Deodorant of the Month’ club. Apparently, my personal brand is ‘stinky.’ I’m tagging u/KrakenFX because 1 BTC would smell a lot better than ‘Sandalwood & Regret.

AlphaCryptoHub

You don’t need a middleman. It’s simple: 1/ The Cash App user goes to Bitcoin → Withdraw / Send 2/ The Kraken user generates a BTC deposit address 3/ Share that address 4/ Send BTC directly from Cash App to the Kraken address 5/ Wait for confirmations — bet settled ✅ - Important: • Make sure it’s a BTC on-chain address (not Lightning) • A small test transaction is smart • Use the standard Bitcoin network

biba8163

Bullshit crypto articles. The facts are plain and simple. | Date | AUM | |:-----------|------------:| | Dec. 2024 | ~$120 Billion | Dec. 2025 | ~$116 Billion December 2024: BTC $120 Billion in AUM > U.S. spot-listed bitcoin ETFs currently have an AUM of $120 billion (December 2024, BTC $106K) https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/12/19/u-s-listed-spot-bitcoin-etfs-on-the-verge-of-surpassing-gold-etfs December 2025: BTC $116.55 Billion in AUM https://www.coinglass.com/bitcoin-etf

namieorange

I'm in profit. Just saying that none of that liquidity is going to BTC with all other assets class making new ATH after ATH while crypto sinks. In the scenario of a correction of of those next year, crypto will be in a way worse position. Something broke on 10/10 in the crypto market. It will probably take time to heal. Or maybe is something deeper. But you cant just overlook how the posthalving year, historically the best or second best year for BTC turned into one of the worst in history. Which would be fine "it happens", if every other assets wasn't doing great and pumping with no issue

earlyslug

BTC is solid, but the most important thing is to diversify your investments and not just hold onto them; you also need to know when to buy and sell, and manage them well. Otherwise, don't forget, it's your money, your responsibility. : )

Flamboiant_Canadian

I'd recommend to not just be BTC/ETH ETFs as well, or else we'll end up in the same boat whenever there is speculation of a recession or bear market. There will be significantly less market impact from BTC dumping, dragging everything down despite network progress. BTC holds back the entire market regardless, if it's up or down because of how much impact it has.  Once all the ETF/ETP approvals start making their rounds for the rest of the cryptocurrency markets, we'll start to see a shift from BTC price impacts. 

Fluffy-Flamingo3983

Just remember …all those other coins….more can be created….ad infinitum. Which means they can be manipulated. BTC is fixed and finite. Sell the rest and just buy sats

PsychologicalBit803

Can one of you smart people explain in simple terms why I would buy an ETF over just buying crypto? And how is the price of an ETF affected by ups and downs of BTC?

Bigdyll13

Does nobody pay any attention? 1. If you're coming here for advice, I guess you're lost already anyway so I wouldn't expect you to 2. Never disclose your bag, much less post a screenshot from your cold wallet suite. But since we are here... Doge is still a thing people have other than Elon? People still have money in it after his blatant manipulation over the years? If all of your solana isn't staked, you're losing value due to the schedule of inflation. Up your BTC ratio if you're planning on years. That is a no brainer.

Scionic94

Should be “Bitcoin held in an ETF or on an exchange” Self custody BTC is the soil on which the above sits 😉

PsychologicalBit803

And a bunch of options expired yesterday evidently? I admittedly have no idea how options work but I kept hearing Friday was going to be a big day. Everything staying about the same. Seems more probable we have larger players manipulating markets to get liquidity out. I think it’s very possible institutions will do everything possible to own and control as much of the BTC as possible. Even more reason to buy and hold. Hold in cold storage even better.

Scionic94

BTC only. Don’t prop up the exit scams.

DimitriJutras

Looks like 50-25-25 it's perfect even safer, you have all big market cap and almost 50% of your capital in BTC it's perfect in my opinion. If BTC goes your wallet grows and if finally alts have a run and dominance of Bitcoin start to fall, you are making money from both side. If market dip just stay in BTC. And the most important is , never sell your Bitcoin as Michael would say lol 🧠🟠⚡

jlittle984

What if it never goes back to 65K, you just do t want to participate in the next bull run? Could start next week or next month and never go back to 65K. Don’t believe in the asset, or just looking to scalp some price movement? If it’s the latter, find a tamer asset to trade…it’s dumb to try to time BTC.

copyofa_

Go to work. Earn fiat, yeet it into BTC. Or work for BTC.

watch-nerd

BTC is already at my target asset allocation. I'm not desperate for more at any price. And I don't think it will go to 500K or 1M in the next 4-5 years.

FitInformation3311

I would increase the BTC allocation and reduce the altcoins, thanks for sharing

jlittle984

Those prices are never coming back. Trump, Bessent, Fink, Saylor are not usually wrong and billions are at stake. DCA, don’t trade BTC.

Glittering_Pick_9738

This. I first purchased BCH in 2024. I couldn't care less about price from 2017. It is still is my second heaviest bag after BTC so I cheer for its success.

namieorange

Yeah, the crypto matket is not feeling any of it. Everything hitting ATH and BTC and crypto just barely hanging

gunnychamero

BTC whales are used to huge returns so the price will be suppressed until they have accumulated enough for significant gains..

PirateSKB

XMR is good for security, Nano is fast is feeless, XLM is fast and takes very little time to transfer funds, BNB is basically a more centralized version of BTC but does better smart contracts than BTC, Litecoin is still around ironically and moves funds cheaply, USDC and USDT are important as stablecoins Etc

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

MSTR owns over 3% of the total supply and over 4% of the circulating supply, if you don’t think that hasn’t moved the price up I don’t know what to tell you. Saylor himself has said if MSTR never bought BTC its price would be 10k right now.

Kind_Soup_9753

I say turn up the pressure cause this cooker is gonna blow the lid soon. Containing BTC price is like containing steam and that was our first bomb. I don’t think we were expecting the outcome.

PirateSKB

>All crypto dead (5%) ...All crypto dies in your scenario, and that's a 5% chance? Like all 20,000+ projects just instantly cease development, all exchanges close down, and all ETFs stop, and everything just instantly grinds to a halt? >BTC and ETH survive (30%) What's your definition of survival btw? Plenty of stuff fell 90%+ in 2018 and its still around being developed, and alot of stuff that survived the bear market came back to make new all-time highs

Expensive_Special120

And how much is BTC down from 125? Can you do basic math my son?

DarkSatoshiX

“BTC surprises, even when doubted.

Educational_Care_156

Not all cryptos have Blockchains that you can trace everything. There are implementations that you cannot be traced. But criminals have other ways of laundering their money even if they are BTC

WiseChest8227

Not really. There is an abundance of people bullish on BTC. 

LaughterCoversPain

The negative posts about BTC have cranked up 100x lately. Like nothing has changed… Be patient and quit playing into the hands of the market makers, billionaires and fund managers.

GabeDef

Micro could become a bank. (Like Ripple and Coinbase) They are currently having meetings with the big three us banks to use BTC as loan capital.

Exotic_Cantaloupe_96

Any predictions for 2026? Should i sell my silverware and buy more BTC?

110010010011

If she needs an email addresses to recover, that sounds like her BTC is on an exchange, which is honestly the best case scenario. It should be no worse than losing her bank login. She probably has a literal active Coinbase account with the 1 BTC still sitting on it. Just have her try the account recovery on all her past email addresses. The account also should be in her name, so customer support should be able to verify her identity even if she doesn’t remember the email address. If none of this works, she’s just lying.

Anxious_Noise_8805

I lost 640 BTC in 2015 because I sold them and didn’t buy them back. True story

Romanizer

No guarantee, but not pointless: past performance helps when you understand why it worked and the drivers are still intact. Today, nobody would have a doubt about Bitcoin surpassing $1m/BTC in the near future.

Muddy-Waterz

It’s a good opportunity to get a little extra BTC for free.. but your time horizon with BTC at this point should be many years.

DeLoreanDMC-12

Even if bitcoin goes down, it creates an opportunity to do accumulation. Bitcoin is just dependent on MSTR would be wrong, both financial giants Blackrock and Fidelity has billions parked in BTC. There will be demand. Right now people are hoarding gold once that gold rush is over they will return to digital gold aka bitcoin.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The article discusses concerns about the reserves and internal controls of HTX, a cryptocurrency exchange owned by Justin Sun. HTX's reserves include unusual assets like tokenized BTC from Poloniex, with unclear collateral backing, and a majority of its stablecoins, such as USDT and USDC, are lent out on platforms like Aave and Morpho. The article highlights discrepancies in reserve management, transparency issues, and Sun's involvement in various cryptocurrency projects, raising questions about the security and governance of HTX's assets. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

KIG45

There are many, as I said. They do a great job cheaply, quickly and securely. What is 100% certain is that it will not be just BTC left.

Everest2017

There are no good projects apart from BTC and ETH. Name at least one and I will tell why it is not good in one sentence.

FnAardvark

It bodes fine for the future IMO. OG whales dumped over 800k BTC between Oct and Dec. That means the market absorbed more BTC than MSTR holds in just a few months. Yea, the price is down, but MSTR doesn't move the market because they aren't a significant part of the market volume.

Killer_Stickman_89

BTC is fine. The problem is alts. The alt market is completely fucked right now. While newer buyers legitimately can't invest in BTC at this point unless they already have a lot of money.

omg_its_david

People were claiming other people were stupid for buying BTC at ath of 3k. The reality is that no one knows the future, we're all just gambling pretending to see patterns that don't exist.

ThreeTonChonker

Is any of this even worth discussing anyway? MSTR buys aren’t moving the price of BTC. Every couple of years this sub finds a new source of FUD (China ban, tether liquidity, quantum computing, etc) and if it isn’t bots driving it for market makers then it’s the human equivalent. FTX was never part of the FUD narrative because it was actually a huge deal but like most things you should actually fear, completely unknown. My underlying assumption is that market makers consider this sub to be retail and thus use FUD as a lever to push sentiment in whatever direction they choose. Which is hilarious because redditors can’t be making that much while working the drive thru at Wendy’s so I don’t know why they bother.

iwakan

Depends on what exactly you mean by die and survive. Are you talking about price only? Or activity/interest? On what timescale? And what exactly do you mean by "alts"? If, aside from BTC and ETH, only one more chain survives but thousands of others die, does that still count as option C? If I just make lots of assumptions regarding my questions above, I guess my percentages would be something like: - All crypto dead (15%) - Only BTC survive (1%) - BTC and ETH survive (10%) - BTC and Alts survive (74%)

pop-1988

Browser wallets are insecure But there are so-called "supply chain" risks in all software. People have quickly forgotten the recent large-scale compromise of libraries in the NPM repository Does this means Javascript wallets are insecure? Maybe, but it would be naive to pretend that any repository of software libraries is safe BTC Core spent a lot of developer effort removing its OpenSSL dependency. But it still has dependencies on Google's LevelDB (for UTXO database, and other blockchain indexes), and SQLite for user wallet files. It's no longer dependent on an ancient version of Berkeley DB

No-Operation-3100

That’s my point of “market making”, vs “position building” volume. It’s very tricky to quantify that, but I’m convinced that given the latency of the volume traded on exchanges, the overwealming majority of the reported volume is market makers and other HF organisations playing with each others. For the “huge buys haven’t moved the price”, you don’t know where that price would be without those buys, but it is evident that I’d be lower: supply and demand is still a thing, even in a market as manipulated as BTC.

iwakan

>Only BTC survive (60%) Stupid-ass prediction. If crypto as a whole survives, there is a near 0% chance that the most important and used application of crypto, namely smart contracts, aren't a part of the survivors.

Everest2017

It may also be that Alts are overvalued but BTC is undervalued.

Everest2017

I see four scenarios possible (in brackets is my prediction) 1. All crypto dead (5%) 2. Only BTC survive (60%) 3. BTC and ETH survive (30%) 4. BTC and Alts survive (5%)

iamjide91

For a portfolio focused on sustainability and real world use, I’d definitely consider adding $AIOZ. It’s not just another alt, it’s a DePIN project powering Web3 streaming, decentralized storage, and AI compute. These are real utilities that could remain highly relevant over the next 5–10 years, especially as demand grows for decentralised infrastructure and AI workloads. It’s the kind of project that could complement BTC and ETH in the long run. You should do your own research, though.

pop-1988

> MicroStrategy could become insolvent Not true. MSTR can convert the loans and the preferred stock to regular stock. The low stock price might make the lenders insolvent MSTR's accumulation of Bitcoin is a number-go-up bet. It's obvious that if the price doesn't go up, the bet fails The loan contract periods are based on a prediction of the timing of price increases which follow a price fall. The prediction is based on an analysis of historical price charts. That is, it doesn't matter if the price falls below $13k, if it increases back to at least $70k before the loans fall due The lenders are playing exactly the same bet. They know they're risking insolvency if the price is low when the loans fall due, ie. if the historical cycle doesn't repeat MSTR's chief number-go-up advocate claims MSTR never needs to sell BTC. That's true, because MSTR can convert its loans to regular stock Who loses if the price falls and doesn't go back up? Lenders and shareholders, through MSTR stock price fall, and dilution Is it sustainable? No, because historical price charts are not useful for predicting future price movements

PhazeXer

Stop the BS statement. BTC are now rigged by the whales.. it follows whatever the whales are plotting. No need to say this BS statement..when it moves it moves...

Inevitable_Pin7755

I would say keep it until you need it. I had seen some people here buy a house with their BTC. That’s amazing and perfect for me. I am holding until retirement, but that’s me

LinusVPelt

Why lowering the value of their BTC holdings would start a negative feedback loop? If BTC value decreases, their mNAV will increase, balancing the metric.

Effective-Start3859

And then? Will you buy anything for BTC at the end? Or will you keep it forever?

dividedSt8s

Run your own node. Build your own TX database. Do the analytics. Let us know what you find. I could care less about what other people do with their BTC but at least this way you’ll be contributing to the network.

dmx442

BTC@87k, This sub is dead and calls it deep bear market We have come a long way my friends.

MakCapital

If you use Web3 you'll end up using only 3 L1s. Majority of activity and active protocols on one. Perps heavily used for the other which generates insane revenue. Last is well known for being the first smart contract platform. That's Web3. You can confirm that everyone is issuing, owning, using financial services, trading on pretty much just these L1s with any numerous data analytics sites like Defilama. Don't need to be savvy. Open Phantom and use the most popular financial services from perps to lending to trading to anything. You'll end up using these 3 networks. There's no reason to discuss L1s that no one uses. One has even been dead for multiple cycles. They simply get shilled a ton on Reddit by drowning whales with no liquidity to exit. Only reason to discuss L1s, with no activity, is if they're brand new and have the potential to disrupt current leaders. Better be brand new and multiples better in both economics and technical metrics. Follow most engaged Web3 on X to see what new things people are excited about. You can find social links on Reddit profiles. Best to stick to long holding BTC if you're still unsure what majority use. Good luck!

Fetz-

The explanation is stupidly simple. Everyone was front running the indicators. DCAing out of BTC before the indicators trigger. That means they will never trigger. If you didn't sell before the peak, then you are the one who didn't understand what's going on.

Patient-Fruit-2946

I admire the trust in such gadgets. Type in the wring PIN too often and the BTC are gone. Technical malfunction and it is becoming a digital grave.

VolcanoPlant

Just go long on BTC. It doesn't matter short term movements. Actually it's the other way around. This is a great price to buy even more bitcoin.

dividedSt8s

Since 2017. Gold is up -270%, BTC is up 2700%. Maybe look at more than just the last weeks price action? I dunno.

andDevW

800k if they rebuy that amount of BTC today. 10 years from now those 10 BTC will cost far more than 800k.

Fragrant_Pear_1425

30% ETFs and 70% BTC

nobrainer47

Have you looked at these indicators? Many of them need to see some extreme growth before they claim the top is reached. With BTC calming down more after every cycle they do not work anymore. Time to look for new indicators. Fear&Greed is the only one that makes sense to me and works for stonks too.

DoritoZNJ

System is fine, we are just poor and that's the reality. If you ask a rich man that the system is broken he will laugh at your face. It's just we somehow have the short straw and basically fighting for survival by working jobs we don't like. Bitcoin won't make us rich when we are in this loop but we can at least for the first time in history protect our small amount of hard earned money and maybe even grow them a bit when the price goes up. Will BTC fix a corrupt system- most likely and realistically NO. Government's already try to control it with taxes, restrictions on how much you can buy etc. Mostly taxes to be honest since they can't allow your money to grow. They still can't stop you having BTC but they might try in the future, check transactions follow money flow etc. So play it smart and try to preserve what you have instead of chasing Dubai gainZ.

steelchairframe

Ummm BTC is volatile. That 50B could be 25B in a year. No one knows. And they still have 800MM to pay out per year for preferred stock payments.

patelbadboy2006

The big companies hoarding BTC are going to crash the market imo

WrathofTitus

They just made the case to buy more BTC.

Fudge-Still

I panic sold BTC and invested in alts that all took a much bigger dump. Lesson learned was not to have done that in the first place. But being down so much now it's also hard to convince myself just to stick it back to BTC

steelchairframe

21 months until USD runs out. And stratergy selling BTC is a huge sign of weakness. If you're not factoring in what selling BTC means to a company that has based its entire facade on holding forever, then it's going to be a shock for some. Think of an automotive company that marketed itself on nationally built cars, then had to move everything to a foreign country. The shares would slide massively.

Sprunklefunzel

I'm 80% BTC, 10% Gold and 10% Cash

steelchairframe

It's interesting that I saw a video on this the other day. Their nMRV is 74k. Once they go below 74, they stop selling preferred stocks and rely on a cash pile of USD which will last about 21 months. After that, BTC has to go which starts a negative feed back loop of selling and creating weakness which requires further selling.

pen_jaro

100% BTC here

Mechprince

I bought BTC when its marketcap was only 1B. That’s when I felt that the upside was very high.

Legitimate_Cry_5194

Good luck BTC going x100 in next 10 years like it did in the previous 10.

certaintyclammy

Sorry for your loss man. Definitely reach out to Coinbase support with the estate paperwork - they have a process for this stuff. And honestly keeping it in BTC to honor him sounds like exactly what he would've wanted

ardus666

I max out my 457k, HSA, ROTH, put money into an emergency (with different buckets), anything left goes to BTC.

elmo_big_pp117

Im bullish on BTC.... just not for this cycle

NorthvilleGolf

50k bitcoin? Bring it on because I’d love the chance to own 0.1 BTC lol

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; MicroStrategy, the largest corporate holder of Bitcoin, faces significant financial risks due to its highly leveraged position, holding over 671,000 BTC funded by $15 billion in debt and stock dilution. Its sustainability is tied to Bitcoin's price, with a potential collapse in 2026 if BTC drops sharply. A failure could trigger a market shock larger than the FTX collapse, as forced liquidation of its holdings might destabilize Bitcoin's price and the broader crypto market. The probability of collapse is estimated at 10–20%, highlighting rising concerns about its financial fragility. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

WrathofTitus

They were saying the same thing last cycle too. I remember several articles saying "If BTC drops to $XXXXXX, Microstrategy will be forced to sell. It never happened. B in fact he just bought more.

Hot_Philosopher3199

I have a BTC/TSLA bag. Was 70/30 BTC/TSLA until Oct, then 30/70. Great trade. I value everything in BTC and my bag has done very well since the flip.

Different-Club-5058

I used to be 100% in BTC until a few months ago. Now I am 99% in BTC and 1% pokemon cards. Call that risk management

Revolutionary-Cup78

It would drain liquidity because instead of having that money waiting on buy orders, investors placed it on the promotional stack to get some quick yields. Someone lost a long or placed a market sell order that drained all reasonable liquidity. This same thing happened not so long ago on the pair BTC MXN (Mexican peso), not that weird of an occurrence even for BTC pairs.

Different_Walrus_574

100% BTC only lost my job last year haven’t needed to apply for another one since

LegitimateDream4942

Fiat is used as a medium of exchange - reality. Gold is a store of value - reality. BTC - "infinite possibilities, fuck up the system." Why would you want to fuck up the system? I hate the system as much as you do, but why would you want to fuck it up? Nobody will benefit from its downfall. You look at something like real estate, it's overpriced, right? But as your parents' retirement security....do you still want "the system to collapse"?

masturbator6942069

BTC to $1M by June I can’t wait

Easik

That's been the narrative for 15 years, when does that happen? I don't know of a single merchant that accepts BTC and I don't know a single employer that pays employees in BTC. You are ignoring reality to fit a narrative that you hope happens.

Easik

You should literally type a complete thought when commenting to people. MSTR and BTC are both near 52 week lows. mNAV is also near a 52 week low.

GeneralOwn5333

Sold BTC for silver waiting to get back into BTC

PsychologicalBit803

My parents sold their house and had a decent amount of cash left after buying another place. It was November of 2022 when they closed. I told them they should take the 80k they really didn’t need liquid and buy BTC and just plan to sit on it 5 years. My dad was ready to go but my mom couldn’t be convinced. She mentions every so often now when she sees the BTC price. I’m sure there are millions of similar stories.

PsychologicalBit803

Is there an ETF that the share price changes as BTC price does exactly? I honestly haven’t spent any time looking at the ETFs

HoPMiX

Cash is the problem mid to long . If you wanna speculate on BTC at least put it into a fund or gold while you’re waiting to move. I of course dunno where you are. I’m commenting on USD.

Cratos007

I’m focused on the idea of paying taxes in BTC.. I don't care what trump does. I don't think the policy would be bad.