BTC

Decibel0753

Revolut X (Note: Do not confuse this with the regular Revolut app.) is the cheapest - 0% fees for the limit. Withdrawals, however, are more expensive - 3 euros - so it’s worth waiting until you have a larger amount of BTC to withdraw.

read_more_comments

People can't comprehend the scale of this stuff. I do one 24 word seed with a lengthy passphrase. I like using different addresses, one BTC per address. That way no one knows my actual balance.

tastefullylate

SEPA transfer plus a proper spot order is usually the route I'd look at first. gamdom aside, compare the spread and withdrawal fee too, because the lowest commission doesn't always mean the most BTC.

tastefullylate

That 54 BTC coming back out in one piece is wild. gamdom would probably get less attention than this guy's wallet movements.

Ok-Basil4240

Bitcoin was $0.07 at the time so 9000 BTC is about $630 Worth about $50M today Holy fuck

Striking_Doughnut648

XRP went up more than BTC and it even started going up before BTC in some instances

Syntheone_Labs

I’d separate two questions here: **1. Do I want more ETH in my long-term portfolio?** **2. Is right now a good time to rotate all of my BTC into ETH?** Those are very different decisions. BTC and ETH aren’t really an “either/or” choice. BTC is generally the more established and simpler long-term thesis, while ETH gives you more exposure to smart contracts, DeFi and the broader Ethereum ecosystem — but also comes with different risks. Personally, as a beginner, I’d be very careful with an **all-in rotation** from one asset into another, especially if you already bought BTC at a price you’re happy with. If your goal is genuinely “hold long term and don’t stress too much”, a gradual approach may fit that goal better than trying to perfectly time a BTC → ETH switch. You could keep your BTC position and slowly build some ETH exposure over time instead of making one huge decision at one price. The important thing is not just asking: **“Which asset has more upside?”** but also: **“Why am I buying it, how long am I willing to hold it, and what would make my thesis wrong?”** And one last thing: utility and price performance are not automatically the same thing. A network can be extremely useful without necessarily outperforming another asset as an investment.

PeechayHutt

This, let them do and incredible job, and there is no way to trace whatever they are doing All these BTC are as good as lost

Lacklusterspew23

So, 4.5% a year. Seems like blackrock or some other big institutional market manipulator wants to short BTC and is paying 5.5% a year to coinbase for the right. This could be evidence of a conspiracy to crash BTC for the next 2 years. Take ALL your BTC off coinbase NOW! Leave them with NOTHING. Screw the market manipulators. Basically "deposit your BTC with us and lock it up for 2 years to get 9% so we can crash BTC down to virtually zero." I cannot imagine why coinbase wants BTC on deposit with them so bad that they are paying such a huge rate unless either 1. someone else wants to short it or, 2. they lost a ton of BTC and have to replace it because an institutional demanded self custody. Can anyone audit coinbase's BTC holdings?

v_rocco

The amount of silly shit I bought on Silk Road for 50-100BTC each stills haunts me.

SecureUse5513

I do regret that many many years ago, I had a redditor that was helping me out with a financial request and told me that he was sending 100BTC, which at the time was worth about $140. He said if I kept it, it could become really valuable in the future but otherwise I could use it at a website for a gift card to Amazon. I didn't believe that "magic Internet money" was ever going to be a thing. So I got the gift card, and sent a friend of mine who was convinced it was going to be very lucrative in the future the remaining 3BTC. So yeah, I should probably get some sort of award for being the biggest dumbass in the United States, if not the entire world. Sadly my stupid ass has had so many times where I had the opportunity to be a lot richer than I am today, which is "po' folks", so broke I couldn't afford the or. And yes it was a real restaurant back in the day, and yes that was the draw and the joke from the restaurant. Food was cheap and edible. Which for the money, was a good thing.

devCheckingIn

\+8,320 BTC piling into ETFs so far this week. 🤩

AquarianAge144

Precisely. Inflated BTC

Imaginary_Peak_3217

I remember I mined in college and thought I was a big shot mining and having like 20 BTC when it was like $20 a coin and when it bumped up to $100-$200 a coin I sold I think everything to buy a nicer PC. Cashed out way too early, could've been sitting on a beach somewhere probably never having to work again. And I can't remember what I was doing in highschool because I was mining, but my god I must've had hundreds. Spent too long trying to track it down. At least the ride was fun right?

WillTheThrill1969

Everything is priced in BTC, as it should be.

trader2O

Get your money ready, this October is the historical low in BTC 4 year cycle

OkCryptographer9393

The bear market talk is just noise at this point honestly. People were saying same thing in 2018, 2022, and now again. The ones who bought alts when everyone was screaming "dead" made the most money later. Not saying it's easy to pick the right ones, most will fail, but that's always been the case. I got couple small bags in projects I actually use, not just random stuff from twitter. If they go to zero whatever, I knew the risk. But the whole "only BTC and ETH" crowd acts like they got some crystal ball. Nobody knows shit, you said it yourself.

ConcentrateJolly5461

Much love right back at you, man 😂 Daily DCA is the way. I buy every single day no matter what the chart’s doing.. green, red, sideways, doesn’t matter. Just keep stacking. Your friend’s story is too real. Chasing tops and bottoms is how people turn a win into a loss while the boring daily buyers just keep climbing. Respect for sticking to it and being up big on those 4.87 BTC. Keep stacking, king. We’re both just out here being jolly and collecting sats.

SeaworthinessSad7300

He is a net negative for BTC

sjnyo

I was buying let’s say interesting things in 2009/10/11 using BTC. I was also a little shit getting banned from forums, communities and so on trying to evade. I had dozens of online wallets and emails and remember doing deals for 50 here and 100 BTC here and there. At various points I’ve logged in to old emails and searched “BTC” and “wallet” etc and found TX confirmations or wallet setups and tried to find long lost BTC. Old emails recovering for other old emails etc going down the rabbit hole. I know for sure there’s an email which I’ve got as far as needing to enter the recovery phone to a number I guess was mine long ago but I don’t know or access too (can see last 4 digits) that I might have some BTC. I did get lucky in late 2022 and recovered about 0.8 BTC from some random site that had it sat in there platform after spending months proving my identity. Another sting was seeing a lot of historic mtgox activity and quite a few other dead sites that may have had a BTC trail to follow. Likewise seeing “you sent 93 BTC to wallet address xxxx” from like 15 years ago makes me laugh. I was just using it to transact, no idea if the investment potential behind it or really why it was technologically interesting.

Flat-Aerie-8083

BTC is best long term. You can borrow against it with a healthy LTV (account for winter) and buy some ETH.

DeadPhish-710

LTC has perpetually set lower lows for 15 years. Look at the LTC/BTC ratio. It's going to keep under performing the market. Like it always has.

Cautious-Lecture-858

“Stop connecting BTC to an idol” Proceeds to connect Bitcoin to a mythical messianic figure that

degenxbt

keep DCAing at dips. going market long when BTC has already pumped 25-30% makes no sense

IncreaseCareless123

My exact thinking. Although -50% would be too rare for my liking, -30-40% would be my range. Currently DCA blindly but thinking to switch. Where do you park cash for BTC DCA when it’s above -50%? HYSA?

Alien69Flow

BTC

shimkei

I think I bought 100 BTC to try and purchase a fake ID. Remember buying the BTC but got too complicated and forgot about it. Oh well…

Mammoth_Outside3592

I think it is a bit premature to label the current situation as the start of a new bull market. While Bitcoin has indeed regained strong upward momentum recently, this is driven by a mix of factors: sentiment surrounding the Trump administration's push for clearer crypto regulations, as well as the weakening US dollar, shifts in bond yields, and the reallocation of institutional capital. BTC recently broke past the $80,000 mark, posting significant cumulative gains for August. for the idea that Trump might be creating an exit opportunity for large investors, I believe this perspective warrants caution, though there is currently insufficient evidence to prove such a deliberate intent. While favorable policies can certainly boost liquidity and market sentiment, it is entirely possible for large capital holders to use the rally to reduce their positions. Therefore, I am focusing less on Trump's rhetoric and more on whether institutional inflows persist, whether trading volumes hold steady, and whether there is genuine buying support following the rise. A true bull market should be driven by sustained capital and fundamentals, rather than just short-term market movements sparked by policy news. As

JunkBondJunkie

I forgot about my BTC back in the day. Thank God I was a hoarder.

ejon7

in 2010 the block reward was 50 BTC, not 25

JimmySki6166

Look at the 200 EMA, more realistic! BTC is the best asset one can purchase, keep stacking when you can!!

plumpyplummy

BTC is very interestrong

BapeGeneral3

RH = not your keys, not your wallet. BTC 101. Just annoyed that BTC moves and we get people like you claiming they have been down since day one and “know it will hit 1M”. For those of us who have been around for awhile, we smell you a mile away

L3mmy_winx

Take a longer term view. The math, using Aug 25, 2021 → Aug 25, 2026: **• Start:** \~$46,850 (BTC close, Aug 25, 2021) **• End:** \~$79,200 today **• Total return:** \~69% **• CAGR:** (79,200 / 46,850)\^(1/5) − 1 ≈ **11.1%** That’s a solid return considering we’re way off all time highs here.

BapeGeneral3

Since when? Since you just entered the market? You are posting a RH screenshot of BTC current price. Do you hold anything? Or just trade like your Pokémon cards?

ObviousEconomist

Fake bounce. When the AI bubble bursts BTC will go to 40k. Then the real bull run starts after.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

I think BTC will range here for a while and built up liquidity, then eventually a pullback. When pullback comes I will reasses.

ilovesaintpaul

As a Minnesotan like me would say (and a solid bitcoiner) 'Ope! Just a bounce before the sale goes on in Oct-Nov. Too much uncertainty and volatility for risk-on BTC to jump. (Yet. It will eventually.) DCA is the way.

BapeGeneral3

My first full BTC was bought for $300. I am unfortunately extremely well informed on the topic. It’s just funny that any time the price does anything at all it goes straight back to $1M BTC any day now just HDOL!

HelloYatta

Ain't nobody worried about our $5/$10 weekly DCA in BTC bro

yorker95

A thousand BTC gets you to whale status, so that’s a nice goal. Should be able to accumulate that over the next few months for under $100mm. It could go up or down significantly at any time, impossible to know.

yorker95

30 BTC is a good place to start, but I think it’s best to buy more, yes. /s

MarketObserver1

Bull market is coming soons guys . Only 4k left if btc goes to 84k just start buying eth and alt coins Specially ETH BTC XRP going to give good return and my favourite one is CHAINLINK It’s not financial advice …

BigNoseParody

I will never ever create another Topic ridiculing 40k crew, infact I will apologize to them. I might secretly put a 40k buy order myself who knows. Sadly for them I'm 100% confident. I just see a clear path for BTC to prevail now with new laws, which will be aproved mark my words. There wont also be any hikes because that will hurt Japan, and they would sell off the bond market. I'm not even talking about astrology here, the 4 year cycle, screw all that. There are actually real live events there that benefit BTC, not to mention money printing mashine is back at full speed which further strengths core fundamentals of BTC. Bloomberg might actually be right, 500k at the end of 2023 alligns with my 200k prediction this year.

ZekeTarsim

Funny video but are people really celebrating this rally? Does anyone actually believe BTC bottomed? Cause I don’t!

devCheckingIn

When alts start to dump like that, BTC usually follows eventually.

2xfun

First of all I don’t have any kids. Then it’s not the houses going up, it’s the money being debased … real estate was just the substitute store of value society has picked. Never got into debt. Debt is slavery. Chill my dude … we all know the system is rigged. I am a BTC maxi but I have to say I fell like I am living in the Idiocracy movie atm.

SecureDigitalMarkets

If BTC reclaims its ATH by December, spot from here pays \~57%. A binary struck at the high pays 16x. We're hosting a free webinar Sept 3 walking through how these options actually work, strikes, payouts, how the multiples are priced, plus live Q&A. See you there -> [https://webinar.sdm.co/?utm\_source=x&utm\_medium=organic\_social&utm\_campaign=long\_binary\_calls\_webinar\_aug\_2026&utm\_content=organic\_post](https://webinar.sdm.co/?utm_source=x&utm_medium=organic_social&utm_campaign=long_binary_calls_webinar_aug_2026&utm_content=organic_post)

SecureDigitalMarkets

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PeteyPab305

Only assuming he doesn't have any children that would eventually become A beneficiary of a will or trust. Because that would make absolutely zero sense to convert to USD, especially when it coincides with a historical level of debasement and a potential revocation of the Petro dollar as the world reserve currency as JD Vance's advocating for. If not then yes let him enjoy his retirement but keeping one BTC out of that many just to not have to deal with volatility seems very short-sighted.

prayerrwow

I understand your point, what i mean is with crypto, blockchain, and all the unclear stuff around true ownership in the fiels things are not like the one you mentioned. For example, all the seed phrases already exist out there, when you create a wallet you dont generate a seed, you just use one that already exist and everybody can freely access and control as long as they have they keys. No adress belongs to anyone, if you can guess satoshi wallet phrase the BTC inside are yours to take, because no one can at 100% say you are not satoshi if you have the keys

ST-Fish

> BTC was never meant to be controlled by Corporations but lookie lookie. >Black rock and microstrategy own the Lionshare. Glad Bitcoin is POW, not like them having more bitcoin gives them any control over **the network** does the guy with the most gold "control" gold? Is your gold in your safe not yours anymore because someone else has a lot of it? huh?

InsightKnite

If you are buying to flip for profit than why tf are you wasting time with BTC? Both Solana and ETH do a 4.5x while if BTC hit ATH it would only be a 2x for the vast majority of holders. I know math is hard and all but ...

digital_current

BTC will bottom out at $41,250 in October of 2027.

InsightKnite

Just fyi for those that care at all. BTC on it's best day averages a 2x potential. If you are buying crypto to sell for profit BTC is actually one of the worst ROI coins in the world. Period. If you think BTC is going to be some global currency by all means have fun with that but if you are legitimately trying to gain income via crypto than you need to be paying attention to the potential multiplier on a coin and not it's TOTAL cost. You would think this is obvious but I can't explain how many people I see on these subreddits competely burning money on the table because they are saving for a 2x return after 10+ years of investment. It's wild.

LVL99stocks

I bought THOUSANDS to buy runescape gold with. They where maybe $.1 to .3 each? I bet that old computer has 10-14mm of BTC on it. Wherever it is.

MarioWilson122

Yeah, you might've missed this dip, but we can still potentially see $55k later this year for all we know. It's still a bear market year, and one strong rally doesn't necessarily mean the lows are behind us. BTC is still down around 30% from a year ago despite this recent run. The funny thing is even if it does get back to $55k, people waiting for that exact price can still hesitate once it gets there because they'll start thinking $50k or $45k is next. That's the real problem with waiting for the perfect entry.

Sensitive-Crew-6025

So owning 2.5 BTC is actually a big achievement?

OkLaw1527

So less then 5% of whole world holds BTC lol, are there so many altcoin holders who skip btc? 😄 😄

Capital-Line-8140

Naja der 4 jahres zyklus ist tot, würde dieser weiterbestehen, gäbe es kein zukunft fpr BTC

AquarianAge144

True. Im just specifically referring to Iran because it has such a strain on Energy. Oil going up is not good for BTC. Also. Agree on Saylor. I just dont think we need to keep being over there. We already destroyed their nukes and now we should be leaving but instead they wanna keep pushing so they can own the strait of hormuz. Not realizing that they are springing a trap that will set the economy back Big. I like that we pumped but if they start bombing eachother again i fear we may dump even lower than the 60k bottom we were working. However, elections are coming. So there is a possibility they put hostilities on hold and let us break free in order to secure votes. We will see.

mozy-rama

Most indicators on 1-day up to 5 days chart are over-bought territory (closer to 100). BTC is currently trying to break above the 50 day moving average on weekly chart, which is at $81.5k. Chances of that happening is very low as historically there's a higher probability that price action will hit 50-day moving average at least one time then pull back to recover. Price can hit the 200-day moving average before the final push above the 50-day. 200-day moving average is currently at $65k but is slowly moving up with each passing week. It was previously at $62k June 2026. Question is.. can BTC pull back to $65k or whatever the price will be at the time BTC hits the 200-day moving average on weekly chart. One thing is for sure... Stochastic RSI is extremely over-bought territory on 1-day to 5-day chart. Weekly chart is about 70% the way up? Price pull back will happen in the very near future. You have 2 options.. \- 1.) Wait for the pullback on BTC price to get in. It can go to 200-day moving average price which is now at $65k (again.. price is slowly moving up each passing week). \- 2.) Wait until BTC hits above 82/83k and confirm that as support. Then get in at that support level + stochastic RSI indicators should be over-sold territory (closer to 0 area). Less profit.. but a guarantee win!! You're pretty much trading out of pattern and locked in for a guaranteed win with following the uptrend ride up. Good luck!!

fittes7

I guarantee that this breed wouldn't invest a dime even if BTC would suddenly fall to 11k last night. They're just yappers and excusers, they're saying this excuse to feel better because they don't have the balls to invest.

neurone214

If you want this person or people to be caught, I probably wouldn't post about what they're doing wrong on the internet where they could very well read it. That said, from the commentary I've read, this person / these people seem reasonably sophisticated; I'm not in BTC (just interested in the drama), so I don't fully understand why this approach seems silly, but if it's glaringly so then maybe it's a red herring?

Amazing_Client_6950

Slowly accumulate BTC and hold it for 3–5 years.

Fit-Heron8411

I remember I used to exchange BTC to Linden dollars (Second Life currency) - I remember I had 1700 at one point 🙃🙃🙃

hodler1992

Why would it become worthless? Even if a quantum computer could create longer chains the maximum damage it could do is to reverse a payment one has sent right beforehand. I actually don't see a massive danger here any soon. But I agree that BTC reaching 1 million and even more is in inevitable

eride810

So weird, I thought BTC was dead…..

mvrozanti

Yeah, I guess we're not 1000x or 10000x early. But there's trillions not in it still, and the mechanism bringing dollars to BTC is still very much alive. Now compare that to 7% APY investments or even S&P500 - BTC still beats them. And when financial people get convinced that this is not a scam but a cryptographic fortress available to everyone, and they advise their clients to put 1%, 2%, 5%, 10% of their assets in it, we will see fireworks again, is what I think.

Secret_Operative

A UK friend asked me how to get their retirement account into BTC, similar to the IBIT fund in the US. I have zero clue, anyone know?

NatureNeat5506

BTC is heavily manipulated. It has to hit the 50s before the bull cycle starts . Be careful

PatternAgainstUsers

If you buy the top of this move on leverage then it's a bull trap. If you are referring to the business cycle as a whole, or someone just buying spot as an investment at the top of this move with diamond hands, then that is not remotely a bull trap. Your frame of reference means everything. Ask yourself this question: why when BTC is having HISTORICALLY strong bullish order flow just off the lows (relatively speaking, currently) is your FIRST impulse to say "bull trap"? It's because your perspective is not tying the long-term together with the short-term... you are ONLY looking at the short-term. What that tells me is you have a bearish bias. Do you know why you have a bearish bias? Because intuitively you know this asset is *most likely* going to drift up and to the right over time with liquidity, with debasement, similar to most strong asset classes (at least the ones that actually beat inflation and don't just move nominally - because we care about *real* returns). What does THAT conclusion tell you about your bet if you are short / sidelined here? It tells you that you KNOW on some level your risk/reward is capped... this is the famous argument against being a structural short-seller... capped upside. People can short BTC tactically, or as a hedge... totally fine. I'm just telling you to zoom out, because your context is totally off (clearly) if you're calling a move like this a bull trap at the bottom of a move like this considering the past 6 months of market context. That's still true EVEN if BTC breaks to new lows by the way.

ruck_my_life

Hate to be <that guy> but this title is misleading. It's 1 in 10,000 people *who hold any BTC at all* hold *at least 1 BTC*. So roughly 1 100^th of 1 percent of the entire planet.

Silver-Initiative702

"None of this is advice, and none of it makes borrowing against BTC a good idea." Well, I don't think that borrowing against BTC is such a bad idea in the bear market though. It's better than selling.

AquarianAge144

Im not hating. I am stating a Reality that BTC is now owned Majority by Corporations like Blackrock and Microstrategy. They now own the Lionshare combined with our government and federal reserve which is now in Cohoots together to buy up as much as possible for a strategic reserve. This takes power out of the hands of the people and into Elite companies like those i mentioned. If you cant see how Satoshis Dream of BTC is not the same as Saylors Vision then i cant help you Bub. Have a Good Day tho. Appreciate the joust

PatternAgainstUsers

"You might be an NPC"...says the guy who line breaks his comments out like a North Korean bot. Chill on the conspiracy theory nonsense. "We" refers to HUMAN BEINGS who BENEFIT FROM INNOVATORS. Clear enough for you? You are speaking with your ego, not reason. You clearly want to be in some kinda cypher punk cool kids club. That does not serve you, or anyone else... that is meaningless hipster BS. The average person is NEVER going to self-custody BTC the way YOU want them to. Go research any major consumer adoption in history, if it's not stupidly simple with a clear value proposition, it almost never catches on unless there is simply no (conceivable) alternative and the product is of utmost importance. That is why STRC simplifies BTC exposure for the risk-avoidant... and it's better than nothing. Learn to ask the question "compared to what?". It will solve a lot of problems and ridiculous expectations in your life. Also stop lecturing people 2x your IQ, it's annoying.

EricLimbongan

I get that. But what about using BTC as collateral or putting it to work without selling it? That’s where some newer use cases come in.

Silver-Initiative702

Interesting, hadn't heard the DLC term before. Does that Oracle dependency apply to every native-BTC lending approach? I've seen the term Trustless Bitcoin Vaults come up in this context too, not sure if that's the same mechanism as a DLC or something else entirely.

EricLimbongan

I agree that making BTC easier to spend would be a huge step for adoption. At the same time, I think there’s another side to BTC utility beyond payments, with TBVs being developed to put native BTC to work. What do you think about that approach?

AquarianAge144

I want no part of whatever "We" is. If this is what u call fueling adoption that is hilariously funny. 🤣 He is manipulating with his Stock and Tech buddies. BTC was never meant to be controlled by Corporations but lookie lookie. Black rock and microstrategy own the Lionshare. If u dont see how thats an issue then i cant help you. You might be an NPC.

PatternAgainstUsers

It could not be more clear man. Learn auction market theory, volume spread analysis and review the weekly BTC chart. Your conviction to fight the tape here tells me that you either sold your BTC recently or have active shorts... be careful. This is a market with upwards drift (like most scarce assets). It does trade crazier than something like the S&P of course, because it's a kind of commodity / hard money hybrid but don't get attached to the bear market. It's not gonna be a straight line up (probably), but the likelihood of a durable low being in is extremely high now... PARTICULARLY confirmed by the crowded bearish narratives in COMBINATION with the massive amount of confluences here. Are there short-term longs who will be wiped out and punished for chasing? Almost certainly, but that is a difference of time-frames.

EricLimbongan

I can see that. Retail might be fine with just holding it, but institutions could have more reasons to put BTC to work as BTCFi develops.

AquarianAge144

Bro. Thats just a lie. We have literally dropped 50% from 126k To 63k and now rebounding to 78k Which is only a 30% increase after a 50% drop.... It was not because of Saylor. Saylor is hurting Crypto these days 🤣 His MSTR stock completed inflated everything and he is literally recycling the gains through BTC. He is not a Hero. STOP CONNECTING BTC TO AN IDOL BITCOIN IS SATOSHIS BEAST. NOT MICHAEL SAYLORS. AND IT OBEYS NOBODY.

Jojop0tato

I'm sorry man, this is not early. Mining coins on my Lenovo Thinkpad in 2009 and selling in 2011 was early. The guy buying a pizza for 10k BTC was early. People who watched the fall of MTGOX were early. Nowadays everyone has heard of it and even big institutions hold BTC. "Still early" is an old meme that makes holders feel special but it's just not true any more. There's still upside to BTC but it's not gonna 1000X or 10000X like it did before.

PatternAgainstUsers

Stop listening to "people". Listen to good traders with a track record who can explain their argument if you want to learn. When you say the word: "people" what that tells me is you are seeking safety in the opinions of the crowd (the safe, mainstream opinion). That is exactly what makes people lose in trading; prioritizing emotional security over alpha. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about, I've heard the same "it will definitely bottom in October" and "it will go to 40K first" for the past year non-stop The crowd COULD be right on that, but the probability is extremely low that they will be, due to positioning math... unless they intend to trade much differently than they speak, and it was all some kind of social engineering ruse. The way BTC is trading right now, IF we get a retracement to prior fair value (64K area), you SHOULD expect it to reject very hard and continue upwards from there if that was indeed a durable low and attracted bids. Particularly because of the clean squeeze that broke that range of value. Anything can happen, I can't predict exact lows and no one can... just describing what the auction would be expected to do. That said, we do NOT have to return to 64K. If we get a retracement to \~69K (approximately the current VAL of the impulse we're undergoing), or thereabouts you could also see passive bids creating a higher low than expected. The higher that low is the more bullish this move is, assuming you see absorption on heavy volume and a rapid clean bullish impulse. You don't get signals this clean very often, but the process of the last bearish impulse barely creating any lower value at all relative to the prior February range, plus weekly RSI divergence at the lows, plus CLEAR seller exhaustion, plus a short-squeeze catalyst after a period of historically low volatility, and this kind of confirmation with the impulse move not being given back rapidly over the past week... it's hard to ask for more validation that the bull cycle has begun - AT THE POINT OF THE TURN. People saying "I'll believe it when we create fair value above 76K etc. - that's a fair point to confirm the thesis... but as for turn-calling, that's late.

b1rdk

Como BTC va a llegar a los 120k, todavía estás a tiempo

R4ID

> I really dont care about XRP from an investment pov or generally enough to argue about it. I dont like the way it is less decentralised (if you believe it is decentralised by definition). Thats a big thing for me personally. there is no argument, you made a claim, why are you unable to substantiate it? The basic rule of crypto is dont trust, verify. Ur just spreading lies and then when called out on it running away with this nonsensical answer. XRP is decentralized, Nobody can freeze transactions/wallets, Nobody can reverse transactions, censor users/wallets/transactions, Nobody can create more XRP, nobody can force a code update on the validators of the network. There is no theoretical or practical example you could present of the "centralization" ur claiming is there because it is decentralized. This is not a "grey" thing or a "kinda thing" its a 0 or a 1, you are either decentralized or ur not and in this case it is. >XRP is likely going to go way down as BTC has too much network effect. When it gets the point that BTC is much more adopted, people will be using layer 2 for transacting with BTC. They wont use XRP. Even if it has some better aspects. >I think you should cut your losses and throw the money in btc while its still low. Best case scenario for BTC is it rallies following BTC. But its not going to do as well as BTC. Is my prediction. All this nonsense, yet ive made 8 figures from XRP TWICE, Again you simply dont know what you're talking about and its embarrassing for you to be even posting here, No wonder u hide ur comment history because people would probably bash u over the head with it in the comments when ur constantly posted this nonsense.

Fun-Analysis-182

The setup you're describing at the end already exists and has a name: a Discreet Log Contract. The BTC stays locked in a contract on the Bitcoin chain the entire time, no bridge, no wrapped token, no pooled balance. What actually moves is an oracle's signed price attestation, and that only comes into play to settle a liquidation. Lava is the most visible project doing BTC-backed loans this way right now. The honest catch is the one another commenter already flagged: you've swapped custodian and bridge risk for oracle risk, trusting whoever attests the price to do it honestly at liquidation time. So it doesn't remove trust, it narrows the two failure modes you mapped down to one much smaller one.

Immediate-Vast6955

5% allocation of whole portfolio. Rebalancing with salary savings or trading when BTC reaches 4%/6% of portfolio.

SaltAndAncientBones

The lesson here is to never try to time the market. Dollar cost average in. If you like BTC, start buying it in chunks. The price is going to go up and down.

NefariousnessOld3525

Tell me you've been in BTC less than 10 years without telling me you've been in BTC less than 10 years...

Tiny-Design-9885

DCA cash at all time highs. Nibble with your cash as it dips DCA cash into BTC hard when below 50% all time highs. Continue to DCA.

Historical_Candle511

Broken Money was eye-opening to more than just BTC; it was an explanation and exploration of why FIAT systems fail, and then concludes through challenging different mediums of currency that Bitcoin solves pretty much all of the root causes for empire/currency collapse.

Longjumping_Iron8826

At least you didn’t pay for 2 Dominos pizzas for 10,000 BTC

Ok_Carry_6699

It’s a good question. When a lot of activity starts in BTC, it signals that alt-coins are set to move as well. While BTC is the king, people want the “alpha” 4-40x returns so they start piling into alt-coins as well. It’s mostly algorithmic activity considering how they move in tandem.

FrostingCareless8357

Will BTC keep on spiking or it'll come down?

DistributionOne4607

I have a position in IBIT using my qualified 401k. Because, like you, I didn't have a ton of liquid to buy actual BTC from an exchange. I wanted a single bitcoin of exposure, and I took the position during the 100K price fomo of 2025. So here I am with my "1 BTC" of IBIT. Underwater but resolute.

groundkittenbeef

I still hold some BTC that I purchased at $347. Don’t assume everyone would’ve sold. Not a fair assumption for us 💎 🙌.

Party_Treacle_9440

Back in the early days I used to mine using a a serviced based on JavaScript attached to some of my websites. I tested it for a day and managed to mine around 0.12 btc. Eventually I stopped using it because the user experience was impacted. I didn't touch BTC again until 2017 and from time to time I think about those stacks who may be lost forever. I turned that frustration into determination and I've been stacking ever since.

lovemyhawks

Back in 2015, before draftkings was a thing i would sports bet on nitrogensports and bovada. Probably gambled away 2BTC which was like maybe $500 at the time. Live and learn