BTC

BangkokPadang

Are there like... goliaths that move through if somebody makes a 10,000 BTC transaction or anything like that? Little surpises to keep it interesting? It's hella cool btw, that was just my first thought.

NotMyBestEffort

Seals with clubs poker... my first BTC purchase was 3 for $45.00. My poker stats say I lost a couple hundred grand playing online poker. I did not. I lost how much I bought in for, about $150.00.

Crypto_4_Cash

Damn bro. I read this entire thread, and all I can say is that I feel your pain. In 2019 i got got because of interpol cracking down on WSM/DM. Lost about 250 BTC to seizure. But btc was a lot more expensive. I think we paid 12.5k per coin for the vendor deposits at the time. We thought we were on top of the world. 3 months and 300+ sales in, we thought we were unstoppable. Little did we know, but 200+ of those sales were to the police. I never touched the drugs, or the shipping. Let's just say I was in "customer relations". Damn BKA sentenced me to 7 years probation and over 30k (plus 16k for my lawyer) in fines. All in addition to the massive amount of BTC they confiscated from me. Shit happens. You live, you learn, and if you're smart you never repeat your previous mistakes. In march my probation is over, and I can finally completely move on from that terrible point in my life. I can't wait! Congrats on getting through your troubles, dude! Good luck with all your future endeavors.

Billkr

Why would you want to store clutter on the BTC blockchain?

MrMoo151515

Pick one of the other shit coins to muddy up. We don’t need anything else on chain. Just BTC.

Future_Truck1126

Well, I certainly bought, took out a loan against a small stack of my BTC, we will see how it goes! Either way, its all money I can afford to lose! God speed to all!

MoneyComesWithTime

BTC 25k next step. Going down big the next couple of months.

blaivas007

Bitcoin is not regulated directly by a central figure. It can try to regulate it via third party actors (CEX, for example) but the reality is that if I wanted, I could freely use my BTC however I want and nobody can do anything about it (short of illegal scifi level CIA hinderance). That's the whole reason why crypto is so popular among criminals. As for the *idea* behind Bitcoin in 2026, well, everyone has their own opinion, hence why you objectively cannot say the person you responded to is objectively wrong. There are far more reasons people would want crypto to remain unregulated than just to commit crimes. I'm sure you can think of some.

Good_Extension_9642

And the irony is now we think why didn't we buy any in 2015, it was between $320 - $463, our excuse was "I didn't know about it then". In 2035 when BTC is over 1 million we'll think " it was so cheap back in 2026 at 60k"

finepnutty

When the AI bubble pops BTC will go down with it

Virtual-Metal9290

With BTC: Food once each week or two. All of my electronics for the past few years. About a dozen other random one off things. With oil: nothing With fiat (which was not part of the original comparison): everything that has no vendors who have yet started accepting btc

Itur_ad_Astra

The only way to make money in crypto is if you have zero belief in it. Treat everything like a shitcoin, short pumps, realize that even BTC is a shitcoin that will be dead in a few years anyway, and you can make some money.

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ProfsrGabriel

Don't worry about that. It's just a distraction. I'd rather keep accumulating or natively staking my BTC. That's what I'm doing while waiting for the TBV launch.

HarveyKiam

Don't worry about that. It's just a distraction. I'd rather keep accumulating or natively staking my BTC. That's what I'm doing while waiting for the TBV launch.

Fettiwapster

Should BTC be an inflationary hedge?

Ruzgarkanar

Trying to time the perfect entry is almost impossible, especially in crypto. What I personally find more useful is tracking multiple signals together: BTC trend, volume, sentiment, major stock market movement, and overall risk level. A single chart usually doesn’t tell the full story. I’m currently building a tool called AlphaWatching for this exact reason — an AI-assisted market tracking dashboard for crypto, stocks and funds. It’s not meant to give financial advice or “buy/sell” calls, but to help people follow the market with less noise and more context. I’d be curious what you guys usually check before entering the market. Price action only, news, sentiment, macro, or something else?

AccordingFloor7010

The problem with that analysis is that fiat currencies are falling / failing / diluting much, much, MUCH more slowly than fiat cryptos.   The US dollar will go hyperinflation,  yes, but that can can be kicked down the road another decade or so.  The useless-as-teats-on-boar-hog fiat crypto BTC can can only be kicked another few weeks to few months before tanking, maybe a year or two at the most.

AccordingFloor7010

That's true.  But the instant that MSTR declares that its invoking that fine print and choosing to not pay preferred dividends (which is coming fairly soon), the price of both common and preferred's will immediately tank, and all confidence is gone, triggering that death spiral, which will lead to BTC dropping to $15 - 30k ish within less than a quarter, maybe even a bigger drop.  I think EITHER one of these scenarios WILL trigger the death spiral:  a declaration of non-payment of the full dividends just one time, or the BTC price staying below $60k for more than 10 days to 2 weeks.  If BOTH happen, it's "Katie, bar the door...."

Scholar_of_Yore

True, but that is a questionable reason to keep BTC of all things. Realistically everyone should have learned by now that the goal of this is to buy and sell it for a profit. Nothing more. Besides, even if you do use it for another purpose you would still, eventually, sell it. You have to be dumb to actually think he would literally never sell it. Even if he somehow meant it he is not gonna be in charge forever.

4510

What is your point? Is your point that you don't like the price of BTC or that you don't like the subreddit?

WatchDecent2822

Once the Trump crime family have sold all their BTC...that's when they'll dump. Or the first day a democratic socialist becomes the President of the United States.

NecessaryGlittering8

I would like to enlist in the BTC Buy army o7

Good_Extension_9642

BTC ETF are best, don't believe me? Ask everyone who got their BTC stolen from their cold wallet in the last week

Molasses_Calm

This is not the reason that BTC is down today. Nasdaq dropped 1.5%. Renewed strait of Hormuz issues. Inflationary pressure.

Adonael

I don't know which altcoins you're looking at, but I'd recommend you CoinTrends for finding altcoins that hold up best/worst during the BTC dip/sideways action. It's much easier to do and see outliers than to what you're currently doing with tracking all of the coins manually. E.g. here I selected the start of the BTC dump and current time. I filtered top 100 coins, but you can play with the ranges and filter out top 50, top 20, or if you like shitcoin territory you can select range between 200-300. (those have thinner books that you described) Try it out and let me know if you like it. https://preview.redd.it/kjooxjjrp1dh1.png?width=2275&format=png&auto=webp&s=7bcb358c795faad2cf59337d80825a4f931d80d2

Adonael

People telling you you can't make money at this market are lying. Of course you can. But it's much more difficult and to be honest, current game is just to preserve your capital as much as you can, before the next bull run happens. What I've been doing is shorting alts that have shown good strength in comparison to the rest of the market (especially when BTC dips). Then I short them on round numbers (e.g. 5$, 10$, 20$) or when the coin is near ATH. I use CoinTrends to find outliers, but I never buy worst performers, I only look at top performers and short them. (Currently I'm in DEXE short, shorted on 47.5$)

PublicBarracuda5311

Compromise and sell like half or only third of the BTC. You have an investment oppoturnity.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

And BTC dropped below $60K.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Gold just dropped below $4K Last time gold dropped below $4K, BTC dropped below $60K.

user_name_checks_out

Thank you Mister Avocado. I don't disagree with anything you say. I just can't cope with it. I did not understand coin control at the start. I have a UTXO that combines funds purchased from an exchange (for which I have a screenshot) with BCH converted to BTC via Changelly / Monero. I do not know if I will ever be able to spend that one.

TennisRugbyBoxing

There is no logical reason for it to go to $200. Needs millions of speculators to come in on blind faith and push it up. All while the smart money liquidates. Remember the old poker saying ‘if you don’t know who the mug is around the table it’s you….’. Same for BTC - unless your an insider your the mug! Just because you get lucky a few times does not make you an insider. You know if you are, and if you don’t know, then you are the mark, the mug…..

skywalker1990

I use SatStacker, but you need a Strike account. Gets me about 2% extra BTC on my DCA

Low_Carpet9764

Too big of time frame- who the fuck knows what world will look like in general by then, let alone BTC

fan_of_hakiksexydays

They raised that cash by diluting more shares of its stock and from its sales of BTC. So the title is a bit misleading. They did in fact sell over 3,000 BTC to raise that cash.

champing_at_the_bit

Yea, between myself and some friends we had hundreds of BTC. There are wallets out there with multiple coins that will never be recovered.

Sam888888888

Better question would be - Anyone selling drugs on silk road back in 2012 back when BTC was $1 and stumble back into your wallet to find you’re now richer than the cartel 🤣

devCheckingIn

But he would have been a genius if BTC was $150k right now.

Romanizer

Bitcoin is a (nearly) zero-sum game supply-wise. The goal is always to increase your BTC holdings by as much as possible and you can only do that if others are selling. If everyone just held their Bitcoin without trading them in, we wouldn't see bear markets. So some people see it as opportunate to try to get others to sell so they can load up more.

gushkaper

That's fine, BTC didn't have its last ever bull run, more to come once this bear is over

ShardsOfSalt

You paper handed people need to relax and dump the coin and stop looking at BTC.  It's not good for your mental health.

Free_Entrance_6626

Drama wise it also seems much lighter than FTX saga or Mt. Gox even. The only thing that would increase the drama is if, for example, Strategy files for bankruptcy or is sued by the government or something. That could send BTC into the 40k range later this year.

MrKillerKiller_

Yes. Alts are simply a BTC profit sweetener on those select moments BTC pumps into big sudden profits and holds sideways for a boring amount of time. Otherwise they just sit there oscillating and constantly sweeping lows on low liquidity. Bull run, crypto winter doesn’t matter to alts. Its all simply a BTC play.

__redruM

I started with SMH in 2024, and continued to buy through March of this year. I buy lower to medium risk and hold long term. Basic passive investing. There’s likely long term mileage on BTC and maybe ETH, but otherwise stay away from crypto, and learn about stock based ETFs. - /r/ETFs - /r/LETFs - /r/bogleheads

tenor_tymir

If I were you I would buy as much BTC as I possibly could in this bear market. But that’s just me - if I were you. 🥸

polymath_uk

Just find a bullion dealer that takes BTC.

GilbyGlibber

Yea I agree. There were a lot of "firsts" in 2022. If BTC is going to 0 like the doomers say, it would have done so in 2022 or earlier. This time around, I think the bottom won't be as low as people think.

Adventurous_Mode_369

started my btc position at $45k, my highest purchase is $115k…. if you’re “hoping” for a price, you’re thinking backwards still. Getting $ out of the fiat system and into BTC is what i’m hoping.

tenor_tymir

I started investing in the last waves of the 2023 bear market and had a pretty good buy in of \~$20k/BTC. So all I know so far is …. green, even after this pull back. So, for me, all is good and i’m loading up at these prices, hopefully staying green forever.

gushkaper

It's just dependent on BTC which hasn't done much. Once BTC delivers a couple of high volatility up days, STRC is quickly back at 100$

Virtual-Metal9290

I purchased more consumer things with BTC than I have with oil. Maybe I'm just early on oil, but I don't know any vendors accepting it in their POS

gordonfr_

For some content here, can someone explain why this is not moving the BTC price? Is the current trading volume that high?

HSuke

STRC price is still gradually bleeding out over the past week. Selling MSTR when its price ratio relative to BTC is this low is not only dilutive and dumb as fuck. It also goes against their own announced strategy of preferring to sell BTC instead of MSTR when enterprise mNAV is under 1.22.

dj_destroyer

$36k per mined BTC -- is that the industry standard? Seems super cheap.

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HSuke

They sold MSTR this time. It's either selling BTC low or selling MSTR lower. This was the worse choice of the 2 since MSTR ratio is even worse and enterprise mNAV is low.

Jaded-Box-717

Do not sell just now and read about BTC as much as possible. If it doesn’t convince you, you will know how to transfer easily to a exchange but trust in your uncle and hodl it…

Extra-Succotash-9846

Do not listen to any speculation around value. Your 80k could be double or half in 6 months. If you want that cash value, make an exchange account (coinbase, etc.), and get your BTC loaded onto it and sell.

derbyfan1

Dont forget, before Q makes Bitcoin obsolete, it will make the current banking system obsolete. There are much bigger things to worry about than it making BTC irrelevant. But to answer your question - It wont make bitcoin obsolete.

Dettol-tasting-menu

Your uncle left the BTC to the wrong nephew.

Wonderful_Ad_8295

Open an account with any centralized exchange of your choice, transfer the BTC there and then convert to cash with your Bank account as the reciepient .. Do not send the BTC to the each till you have completed the KYC

dj_destroyer

Of course if you need the money then find a good off-ramp and sell; however, your uncle might have chose you for a reason (particularly if he has no kids). You're the youngest family member he could trust and he likely figured you would be the best suited to take it on. Remember, you may "need" the money but you didn't have it last month -- so how were you going to pay for these needs before? Do you think he bought the BTC just for you to sell it and cash out? Maybe he did, probably he didn't. Did you ever talk about Bitcoin with him at all? Maybe sell a bit for your needs and keep the rest as a token of your love and appreciation to your uncle? He was well ahead of his time and left you with over 1 BTC which is an incredible feat. Nothing is for sure but some people estimate BTC will be $1M by 2035. Will you be able to live with yourself if your uncle's last dying gift could have made you a millionaire but you sold at an all time low? Just my 2 cents and food for thought!

Selmemasts

Honor your uncle by learning about BTC and sell some after that if you still think it’s a good idea.

lexicon_riot

Bitcoiners have enough conviction to outlast every crash, and we're only down 50% from ATH this time. People won't stop building. Lightning, Ark, ecash (Fedimint and Cashu, not Paul's shitcoin), etc. The Jacks, Dorsey and Mallers, representative of businesses who are driven to scale Bitcoin payments and living on a Bitcoin standard. Circular economies around the world, from El Salvador, to Switzerland, online, and throughout Africa. The massive push for stablecoins to prop up demand for US treasuries, which is our Trojan horse that psychologically prepares the masses for BTC rails. Our doomed monetary and fiscal policy, which necessitates infinitely expanding credit, and which leave zero room socially or politically for reform before it's too late. The rising tide of authoritarianism on both the left and the right, highlighting the problem which Bitcoin is designed to solve.

Sadlave89

You will see news if BTC will start moving up. When it on flat position you don't see a lot of news ;)

Front-Assumption817

Won’t get passed and means nothing for BTC

MrMoo151515

The beautiful thing about Bitcoin is that 0.000001 hodler has as much of a say as someone with 5000 BTC. Reminder that anyone involved in BTC in one way or another is on the same team. Anyone in the space is benefiting you. Unlike FIAT which is a zero-sum game and revolves around theft.

mansonearrn

I went with Instacoins instead; they're regulated and cool with $20k or more. I swapped about $70k USDT for BTC last month. The spread was under 1%, and EUR hit the next day. It was way smoother than expected. They're on WhatsApp at +356 9907 3921. Just DM them what you have and what you want to swap to. You'll usually hear back within a few hours.

Cuckooland2

the fact that most people think its a cult, and although years of promise, it doesn't seems to have any value amongst a "digital gold" Most people i talk too are more interested in stocks, companies they can invest in an see founders speak, and actaul product - ps i love BTC

btc_marshmallow_test

16 BTC

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RespectFront1321

It’s mainly used by BTC maxis to dismiss any (often valid) criticism by alt coin holders. They post a BTC price graph and smugly claim HFSP without addressing anything else.

Bradystanish

How do you only buy 0.1 BTC in 2013? The low was like 13 bucks back then but it did hit some higher numbers later in the year

Spirited-Birthday-20

Fair buh you forgot 2013 had two distinct worlds January was $13, December was over $1k.I bought near the top of that year's run, not the bottom. $100 got me exactly 0.1 BTC back then. Yeah, yeah I know Timing is everything, including the timing of my own stupidity.

AdBrilliant7812

Yo hago como tú. Dca a btc, billetera fria, no tocar. Compro 1-3 acciones MSTR al mes. La misma idea en mente. BTC para largo plazo y seguridad. MSTR para venderlo a medio plazo y sacar rentabilidad.

zooka19

It impresses people who have no idea about Crypto, when in reality, SOL & BTC are the only reason my portfolio still sees green.

ivanjurman

Well, someone who has 0.000001 BTC practically has nothing, as a transation fee would probably be higher, his BTC are useless

MandyG6

Agreed. I did everything right last cycle and rotated into alts ready for the alt run which never happened. Got screwed. Lesson learnt. BTC all the way, have patience and lower expectations for returns. .

Optimal-Description8

0.07 BTC hodler here 🙂‍↕️

MuncherOfPaintChips

Hey I hold .00001 BTC my opinion is valid

Lefties_TheWorst7331

0.01 is being very generous lol the majority of people in this sub are anti BTC shills who are holding a bag of some trash ALTcoin(s) and come here to diss BTC instead.

KateR_H0l1day

There’ll be a lot of people writing about the second half of 2026 in the future, all about how they wish they’d have bought more during that period. And many more writing about how they wish they hadn’t sold when they did. And, yes this is definitely a prediction for what we’ll see! The smart money is looking at the markets, and considering when to rotate out of the S&P500/Nasdaq etc; back into Crypto, primarily BTC. I sold some SPY in the last month and bought BTC. I’m planning to do the same during the rest of this year, but only when I feel the prices are right both ways, and it’ll be relatively small amounts.

Peepzer

I could see the bip-110 stuff causing issues more so than Saylor. Saylor's a net buyer still and his last sell saw BTC go up in the near term. I think there's actually some relief there that people finally can see him as a human not a "I will always buy and never sell" bot. BTC was made to be transacted both ways! S&P is an interesting one. It's true that AI plays have had some shaky days recently, but I tend to believe these crazy upward moves can continue longer than seems reasonable.

No-Masterpiece2246

tbf BTC has much bigger problems than spam. Like, massive rehypothecation and naked shorting

Dangerous_Relief8971

"assuming BTC doesn't crash any lower" is doing about 90% of the work in this analysis lol. love the effort though, this sub needs more spreadsheets and fewer "wen moon" posts

everyoneisapotato

I don’t know how it works or what forces are behind it but this 4 year cycle is something else lol. This will be my 4th cycle and for the first 2 cycles i watched and played a little here and there. But in last cycle i planned it started DCAing when BTC was around 20-25k (low was 15k) and I sold most of my BTC and other crypto around 97-100k. This cycle i started again around 60k. I hope these cycles keep on playing and we can make some smart money. ETH performed real shit last cycle and I hope it breaks 5k this time. ✌🏻

SnooSnoo_1988

I know i had atleast 1 BTC in my Mt.Gox account. Never got it back and was too late to claim in the law suit.

Big-Finding2976

It's ETH and BTC that will fail.

Pacman_Frog

Okay... Here's the thing. That is a BTC wallet...from 2013. This means there are other wallets on forked block chains that have the same seed and also contain funds. Convert that shit to Bitcoin!

gorgonfr

It is all speculation. Could also never get to ATH again if fiat money gets scarce in next years. Enough time that people forget about BTC.

BestialitySurprise

I'm the opposite. If I see it surging even more after a ridiculous climb, I'm out. I'm too disciplined to buy when it's climbing. The people who panic are the ones transferring their money to those who are patient. I think there's going to be a long slump ahead. The cap on market BTC is getting big. Those who say they're holding until a million are dillusional. These price swings are going to stabilize now that BTC is mainstream, which is a good thing for the holders.

DangerHighVoltage111

Bitcoin is an idea for sound money where everyone can control their own money and transact p2p. It will never be obsolete. BTC got hijacked and ossifiers are slow to update and users will be even slower to migrate if they ever update. However other Bitcoins like Bitcoin Cash are not slowed down and already have QC save options that people can transfer too.

Timely-Fig2030

BTC > ETH > ICP feels like the natural progress. People say it for the last 6 years and lots of people got burned in ICP, but i still believe Internet Computer is the logical next step. Bitcoin feels old and slow. If you add the lightning network to bitcoin, then bitcoin also has just 1 company behind it, which doesn't make it different from ETH or ICP. So it is what it is. In this case internet computer is far more advanced. Just because ETH and ICP had more reliable gains in the past, doesn't mean it has to be like that in the future.

2xfun

I grind of mine just bought 2 properties. How? Payed with BTC ofc 

Brian_GRAY123

BTC giving crumbs and calling it mercy

arcrenciel

It is the same as stocks. You have the penny stocks, which most altcoins are. Buy these, and you either beoome insanely rich, or lose all your money. You usually just lose your money though haha. Then you have the blue chips, which is BTC/ETH. These are proclaimed dead every 4 years, but has always managed to come back stronger.

substandard2

Simple. You trade BTC for profit. Stop holding it.

razorfox

Just buy BTC and hold 😎❤️

Internet_is_tough

You don't understand the basics, but I am not here to educate you. BTC and ETH do different things.

BrokenHefaistos

Epstein basically funded the research that laid the foundations of BTC, dude needed kidcoin for his ops.