BTC

ScopulyX

Altcoins could follow if BTC stabilizes and liquidity starts rotating, but I’d expect the move to be selective rather than everything pumping at once.

Interesting_Rise_309

45% BTC, 45% gold, 10% S&P500

Lingarasa_Churm19

*BTC seems to go up and down a lot. I better keep using a currency that only goes down. At least I know what to expect*

daniel2640

The $81K rejection is real. But jumping from “BTC was rejected at the 50-week MA” to “$50K is next” is a pretty big leap. The 50-week MA around $81K is clearly an important resistance level, and BTC still needs a weekly close above the ~$81K–$83K area to confirm a meaningful trend change. But the current data doesn't make $50K the obvious next destination. Spot BTC ETFs have seen roughly $2.5B+ of inflows over the latest six sessions, while CryptoQuant's indicators have shifted strongly bullish. That's not proof that BTC can't fall — it simply means there is significant spot demand that needs to be considered alongside the technical rejection. A rejection at $81K can mean a pullback, consolidation, or another attempt at the breakout. It doesn't, by itself, establish a path to $50K. $50K is a bearish scenario, not a confirmed target. The more interesting question now is whether BTC can hold the ~$75–76K area on a pullback and eventually reclaim $81–83K with a weekly close. If it does, the $50K narrative becomes considerably weaker. If it loses key support and spot demand dries up, then the bearish case becomes much more compelling. Resistance is data. A prediction is an interpretation. Let's not confuse the two.

OdonsOwn1966

Pretty obvious I am late to the party here, or have a good head start on other investments as I am less than 1 percent. I DCA a tiny amount daily into BTC and ETH and have a couple thousand xrp and xlm, but crypto for now is my lottery ticket money. If it blows up, great, I can leave it to someone who needs it, or fund some veterinary school scholarships or something. Then again, I'm probably older than most on this sub (just hit 60) and now thinking of retiring at 62 instead of 65. Will I NEED crypto due my life, pro not, but someone younger may, so I want to have a bit to leave, just in case.

Kawazor

Mt Pelerin, your first CHF 500 (\~€533) worth of BTC each year are 100% free, without spread and delivered directly to any self-custodial wallet.

levigoldson

I think I had bought roughly 5,000 BTC a long time ago if you added it all up through the eras. I don't regret it at all. It was worth what I paid for it at the time, almost nothing, and I sold it for what it was worth at the time, a little bit more. Anything else is like saying gee, I wish I had known to pick the right lottery number, 10 times in a row, because every time it shot up over the years, was another point you would have sold.

Belgiannator

Tell me, what's the difference between making money with BTC or making money with alt coins? Our money has the exact same value. 

jakestvn

Percentage wise ofc. But would you rather own 1 ETH or 1 BTC 😂

hodler1992

There is a lot of things in your writing I do agree with - especially that the crowd is still sleeping while in the meantime those changes already began. Even when we take Bitcoin as an example we all tend to put it's price in fiat money. Who many people buy BTC because they want to earn some fiat money with it. Not understanding that no matter what the current price is what you'll get in BTC is more worth than that. It is always a good trade because you give up something which is part of our old, dying world, to receive its equivalent in "future proof" value. For myself I buy BTC not because I want $10 Million. Yes - maybe I would buy myself a nice house somewhere on a coast - but I wouldn't need to use any fiat for this in 20 years. A little amount of my BTC stash will buy me everything I want in the future. Because it's the only thing in the world which is truly scarce.

hodler1992

Imagine beeing one of these losers selling the one and only true BTC right at the start of a bull market to buy some pile of dogs*t instead and lose all your money. Meanwhile nobody in the world would even notice that anything happened at all after their fork.

HeroicHeron

Even today you still spend the entire address when sending BTC. HD-wallets simply contain and keep track of many (understatement) adresses, including change addresses and the end user mostly doesn't notice what's happening under the hood. You send 1k / 10k sats from your wallet and your wallet shows 9k remaining. In reality that 9k is now associated with a different address than before.

bcyc

Counterpoint is the the world doesn't need bitcoin. But the world needs USD (at least for now). And at the end of the day BTC is valued using currency.

mrjune2040

Past performance is not a predictor of future performance. The idiots (YouTubers) selling a dream of simplistic predictable cycles haven’t been in financial markets long enough to understand that a myriad of macro economic factors can affect all markets in unpredictable ways. Bitcoin isn’t special in that regard, it just has way less historical data to draw from- ie barely 10 years of meaningful (NOT the fucking BTC-e/MtGox years) of actual high volume trading.

user_name_checks_out

No, that was just a typo. He had 9,000 BTC, he sent 1 BTC to himself as a test, and 8,999 BTC were returned to a change address in his own wallet. Afterward he still had all 9,000 BTC, but he neglected to make a backup that included the change address.

supbuddy20

A good rule of thumb is: * BTC: \~$77k–$79k * Efficient ASIC + cheap power: potentially **10–30%+ operating margin** * Power around $0.06/kWh**:** potentially profitable with modern hardware * $0.08/kWh+**:** margins get thin * $0.10/kWh+: many setups become unprofitable * Old ASICs: often unprofitable unless electricity is extremely cheap Current mining data shows some of the newest ASICs generating roughly $8–$23/day in operating profit per machine before hardware and other business costs, depending on the model. As per coinshares the weighted average cash cost of producing 1 BTC at \~$79,995 for public miners in Q4 2025, and 2026 has continued to put pressure on inefficient miners. This is what my research/data GPT said.

Bilatsibagya

If I could turn back time, I wouldn’t buy Bitcoin. Time is more precious than BTC.

Hidden_Holder

Unfortunately easier than you think. With my strategy of buying €25 daily, I have a monthly fixed "expense" of €750 by investing in BTC. But I have also other investments, so I have some more Euros to invest monthly. Is summary, In a big drop I try to buy less of the other investments and do an extra effort to do an effort to invest more. But in general, in big drops, I tend to invest something between €500 and €1000. It depends on my monthly budget.

NivTheGever

I agree, btc literally drops from 126k to 58k and the moment it goes to 80k people screaming at you "you are so dumb" just for still thinking it's a bear market.... Like hell, I bet no one of the bought btc at 58k and now fomos in just to get the next correction on their head. I don't want anyone to get that but when you use so much emotions in the market you will lose everything you put in. Everyone need to be friends whatever your thoughts are, in the long run we all think BTC is a great inflationary asset to invest in and we all see it go up to 1m eventually. That's why we are all here :)

ilouiei

66% is in my 401k, 33% is in BTC.

OtherwiseNeat9617

It still matches to the cycle even if its already bottomed. It was only 2 to 3 months different.. things arent going to happen to the exact month every time.... it was oretty obvious this time would be different. It it an institutional asset of 1 trillion dollars. Held by ETF's.. one company hlds 840,000 BTC.. thats why its different. Every other cycle was retial driven.. not anymore You think it always stays the same to the day, to the dollar ??? Nope.

Firm_Yogurtcloset835

Stone Man lost his 8,999 Bitcoins because he used a Live CD Linux system, which runs entirely on volatile RAM and erases all generated data and files as soon as the computer reboots. The error occurred because he backed up to the flash drive before network confirmations: upon sending 1 BTC, the system automatically generated a new change address to receive the remaining balance (UTXO concepts), but this new private key was permanently deleted when the system rebooted. His created backup did not actually contain anything related.

pauldegrasse

Where’s the other 99 BTC?

OtherwiseNeat9617

Thats correct.. 70k.. doesnt mean it goes to 40k does it ?? How long would a capitulation to 40k actually take ?? They have no idea, because they're clueless. You are talking about leverage mostly and the 10/10 crash happened when BTC was at 110k plus... we are talking about a 50% move from the 50 week MA in a bear market.. BTC isnt the same as it used to be.. it cant be sold off to nothing anymore

DecentStriker

The borrow-against-holdings is legit. However, I think the risk everyone skips over is liquidation. If you borrow against BTC and it drops 30% in a week (which it does), you can get margin-called at the worst possible moment.

ElderMight

Welp the price just skyrocketed lol. You sold BTC at the bottom of the market. You could have taken out a 6% loan while your bitcoin went up 23%. That's a net 17%. This why you don't sell your btc especially if you can borrow money cheaply.

OtherwiseNeat9617

50% fall from the 50 week?? Has that ever happened in any other bear market ? Who is going to sell or short BTC at 60k for this to happen?? The shorts were already liquidated... dont get do you

ConcernSquare2474

Muh 40k BTC is coming! Behold! Muh prove, as everybody knows, a statistic sample size of 3 is rock solid, like a clock!1

OtherwiseNeat9617

If thats is the case then why would you wait... you are contradicting yourself.. you want to wait for a 10% discount on 60k, when you are saying you'll end up at buying at 80 instead... The BTC cycles are changing slighty. Every cycle is slightly different. Diminishing returns to the upside, almost means Diminishing returns to the downside.... As if you are really saying that... it makes no sense at all. I have an average price of 65k. This cycle and I can bring thay down if it falls. Because I wasnt sidelined. You're admitting to being prepared to pay 50 week MA prices... silly

Ordinary-Fruit-2396

Holding BTC might be most profitable for some people. You don't need to strategize much and just stock up your BTC and other coins in a longer period of time and sell the coins if the profit is enough.

SMK_12

If he cared that much about owning BTC he also could’ve just bought a few thousand more and if he did (which for all we know he may have) he’d still be very wealthy

oneawesomewave

It's not about Bitcoin. It’s about stupidity. It doesn’t matter whether BTC will eventually surpass its ATH. What I’m saying is that the same kind of person who makes ridiculous statements like OP’s will come back crying if their crystal-ball prediction turns out to be wrong. And regarding your statement: it definitely matters, because HODLing is not what most people think it is. It’s not about being dedicated to Bitcoin but being dedicated to your actions. The more you are emotionally involved the more you will tend to be the former person. Not caring requires emotional detachment from price action. OP is clearly emotionally attached. It took me several years to understand that this kind of posts rather express insecurity than anything else.

chungkingexp

He meant 8999, When he transferred 1 Bitcoin, the client automatically sent the remaining 8,999 BTC to a hidden "change address" generated inside the local wallet.dat file but because early bitcoin core software required manual backups for every new address generated, his old backup file only contained the original 1 BTC, leaving the rest stranded on an unrecorded key after he wiped the drive.

Cool-Bath874

Because there’s factors at play here, but the most important one being that this is healthy consolidation. When BTC literally moved > 20% in 2-3 days, it needed genuine time to digest this move. This is a bullish and good thing, because it means if buyers are still remaining persistent and present, and it’s still consolidating just below $80k, then selling it compresses more and more. Why? Because there can only be so much selling pressure at this resistance zone at $79k - $80k or so, before they’re unable to absorb all the buying pressure. That’s how buyers eventually dominate sellers. But it can also go the other way too, which is what a compressed price range can do. If buyers stop buying as consistently as it has been, it can retrace hard. So what you’re seeing is boring and annoying asf, but it’s actually important. **Really important.** If buyers keep constantly probing near $80k, then it can potentially just spring coil upwards

Decibel0753

Revolut X (Note: Do not confuse this with the regular Revolut app.) is the cheapest - 0% fees for the limit. Withdrawals, however, are more expensive - 3 euros - so it’s worth waiting until you have a larger amount of BTC to withdraw.

read_more_comments

People can't comprehend the scale of this stuff. I do one 24 word seed with a lengthy passphrase. I like using different addresses, one BTC per address. That way no one knows my actual balance.

tastefullylate

SEPA transfer plus a proper spot order is usually the route I'd look at first. gamdom aside, compare the spread and withdrawal fee too, because the lowest commission doesn't always mean the most BTC.

tastefullylate

That 54 BTC coming back out in one piece is wild. gamdom would probably get less attention than this guy's wallet movements.

Ok-Basil4240

Bitcoin was $0.07 at the time so 9000 BTC is about $630 Worth about $50M today Holy fuck

Striking_Doughnut648

XRP went up more than BTC and it even started going up before BTC in some instances

Syntheone_Labs

I’d separate two questions here: **1. Do I want more ETH in my long-term portfolio?** **2. Is right now a good time to rotate all of my BTC into ETH?** Those are very different decisions. BTC and ETH aren’t really an “either/or” choice. BTC is generally the more established and simpler long-term thesis, while ETH gives you more exposure to smart contracts, DeFi and the broader Ethereum ecosystem — but also comes with different risks. Personally, as a beginner, I’d be very careful with an **all-in rotation** from one asset into another, especially if you already bought BTC at a price you’re happy with. If your goal is genuinely “hold long term and don’t stress too much”, a gradual approach may fit that goal better than trying to perfectly time a BTC → ETH switch. You could keep your BTC position and slowly build some ETH exposure over time instead of making one huge decision at one price. The important thing is not just asking: **“Which asset has more upside?”** but also: **“Why am I buying it, how long am I willing to hold it, and what would make my thesis wrong?”** And one last thing: utility and price performance are not automatically the same thing. A network can be extremely useful without necessarily outperforming another asset as an investment.

PeechayHutt

This, let them do and incredible job, and there is no way to trace whatever they are doing All these BTC are as good as lost

Lacklusterspew23

So, 4.5% a year. Seems like blackrock or some other big institutional market manipulator wants to short BTC and is paying 5.5% a year to coinbase for the right. This could be evidence of a conspiracy to crash BTC for the next 2 years. Take ALL your BTC off coinbase NOW! Leave them with NOTHING. Screw the market manipulators. Basically "deposit your BTC with us and lock it up for 2 years to get 9% so we can crash BTC down to virtually zero." I cannot imagine why coinbase wants BTC on deposit with them so bad that they are paying such a huge rate unless either 1. someone else wants to short it or, 2. they lost a ton of BTC and have to replace it because an institutional demanded self custody. Can anyone audit coinbase's BTC holdings?

v_rocco

The amount of silly shit I bought on Silk Road for 50-100BTC each stills haunts me.

SecureUse5513

I do regret that many many years ago, I had a redditor that was helping me out with a financial request and told me that he was sending 100BTC, which at the time was worth about $140. He said if I kept it, it could become really valuable in the future but otherwise I could use it at a website for a gift card to Amazon. I didn't believe that "magic Internet money" was ever going to be a thing. So I got the gift card, and sent a friend of mine who was convinced it was going to be very lucrative in the future the remaining 3BTC. So yeah, I should probably get some sort of award for being the biggest dumbass in the United States, if not the entire world. Sadly my stupid ass has had so many times where I had the opportunity to be a lot richer than I am today, which is "po' folks", so broke I couldn't afford the or. And yes it was a real restaurant back in the day, and yes that was the draw and the joke from the restaurant. Food was cheap and edible. Which for the money, was a good thing.

devCheckingIn

\+8,320 BTC piling into ETFs so far this week. 🤩

AquarianAge144

Precisely. Inflated BTC

Imaginary_Peak_3217

I remember I mined in college and thought I was a big shot mining and having like 20 BTC when it was like $20 a coin and when it bumped up to $100-$200 a coin I sold I think everything to buy a nicer PC. Cashed out way too early, could've been sitting on a beach somewhere probably never having to work again. And I can't remember what I was doing in highschool because I was mining, but my god I must've had hundreds. Spent too long trying to track it down. At least the ride was fun right?

WillTheThrill1969

Everything is priced in BTC, as it should be.

trader2O

Get your money ready, this October is the historical low in BTC 4 year cycle

OkCryptographer9393

The bear market talk is just noise at this point honestly. People were saying same thing in 2018, 2022, and now again. The ones who bought alts when everyone was screaming "dead" made the most money later. Not saying it's easy to pick the right ones, most will fail, but that's always been the case. I got couple small bags in projects I actually use, not just random stuff from twitter. If they go to zero whatever, I knew the risk. But the whole "only BTC and ETH" crowd acts like they got some crystal ball. Nobody knows shit, you said it yourself.

ConcentrateJolly5461

Much love right back at you, man 😂 Daily DCA is the way. I buy every single day no matter what the chart’s doing.. green, red, sideways, doesn’t matter. Just keep stacking. Your friend’s story is too real. Chasing tops and bottoms is how people turn a win into a loss while the boring daily buyers just keep climbing. Respect for sticking to it and being up big on those 4.87 BTC. Keep stacking, king. We’re both just out here being jolly and collecting sats.

SeaworthinessSad7300

He is a net negative for BTC

sjnyo

I was buying let’s say interesting things in 2009/10/11 using BTC. I was also a little shit getting banned from forums, communities and so on trying to evade. I had dozens of online wallets and emails and remember doing deals for 50 here and 100 BTC here and there. At various points I’ve logged in to old emails and searched “BTC” and “wallet” etc and found TX confirmations or wallet setups and tried to find long lost BTC. Old emails recovering for other old emails etc going down the rabbit hole. I know for sure there’s an email which I’ve got as far as needing to enter the recovery phone to a number I guess was mine long ago but I don’t know or access too (can see last 4 digits) that I might have some BTC. I did get lucky in late 2022 and recovered about 0.8 BTC from some random site that had it sat in there platform after spending months proving my identity. Another sting was seeing a lot of historic mtgox activity and quite a few other dead sites that may have had a BTC trail to follow. Likewise seeing “you sent 93 BTC to wallet address xxxx” from like 15 years ago makes me laugh. I was just using it to transact, no idea if the investment potential behind it or really why it was technologically interesting.

Flat-Aerie-8083

BTC is best long term. You can borrow against it with a healthy LTV (account for winter) and buy some ETH.

DeadPhish-710

LTC has perpetually set lower lows for 15 years. Look at the LTC/BTC ratio. It's going to keep under performing the market. Like it always has.

Cautious-Lecture-858

“Stop connecting BTC to an idol” Proceeds to connect Bitcoin to a mythical messianic figure that

degenxbt

keep DCAing at dips. going market long when BTC has already pumped 25-30% makes no sense

IncreaseCareless123

My exact thinking. Although -50% would be too rare for my liking, -30-40% would be my range. Currently DCA blindly but thinking to switch. Where do you park cash for BTC DCA when it’s above -50%? HYSA?

Alien69Flow

BTC

shimkei

I think I bought 100 BTC to try and purchase a fake ID. Remember buying the BTC but got too complicated and forgot about it. Oh well…

Mammoth_Outside3592

I think it is a bit premature to label the current situation as the start of a new bull market. While Bitcoin has indeed regained strong upward momentum recently, this is driven by a mix of factors: sentiment surrounding the Trump administration's push for clearer crypto regulations, as well as the weakening US dollar, shifts in bond yields, and the reallocation of institutional capital. BTC recently broke past the $80,000 mark, posting significant cumulative gains for August. for the idea that Trump might be creating an exit opportunity for large investors, I believe this perspective warrants caution, though there is currently insufficient evidence to prove such a deliberate intent. While favorable policies can certainly boost liquidity and market sentiment, it is entirely possible for large capital holders to use the rally to reduce their positions. Therefore, I am focusing less on Trump's rhetoric and more on whether institutional inflows persist, whether trading volumes hold steady, and whether there is genuine buying support following the rise. A true bull market should be driven by sustained capital and fundamentals, rather than just short-term market movements sparked by policy news. As

JunkBondJunkie

I forgot about my BTC back in the day. Thank God I was a hoarder.

ejon7

in 2010 the block reward was 50 BTC, not 25

JimmySki6166

Look at the 200 EMA, more realistic! BTC is the best asset one can purchase, keep stacking when you can!!

plumpyplummy

BTC is very interestrong

BapeGeneral3

RH = not your keys, not your wallet. BTC 101. Just annoyed that BTC moves and we get people like you claiming they have been down since day one and “know it will hit 1M”. For those of us who have been around for awhile, we smell you a mile away

L3mmy_winx

Take a longer term view. The math, using Aug 25, 2021 → Aug 25, 2026: **• Start:** \~$46,850 (BTC close, Aug 25, 2021) **• End:** \~$79,200 today **• Total return:** \~69% **• CAGR:** (79,200 / 46,850)\^(1/5) − 1 ≈ **11.1%** That’s a solid return considering we’re way off all time highs here.

BapeGeneral3

Since when? Since you just entered the market? You are posting a RH screenshot of BTC current price. Do you hold anything? Or just trade like your Pokémon cards?

ObviousEconomist

Fake bounce. When the AI bubble bursts BTC will go to 40k. Then the real bull run starts after.

ODD_Old_Dirty_Degen

I think BTC will range here for a while and built up liquidity, then eventually a pullback. When pullback comes I will reasses.

ilovesaintpaul

As a Minnesotan like me would say (and a solid bitcoiner) 'Ope! Just a bounce before the sale goes on in Oct-Nov. Too much uncertainty and volatility for risk-on BTC to jump. (Yet. It will eventually.) DCA is the way.

BapeGeneral3

My first full BTC was bought for $300. I am unfortunately extremely well informed on the topic. It’s just funny that any time the price does anything at all it goes straight back to $1M BTC any day now just HDOL!

HelloYatta

Ain't nobody worried about our $5/$10 weekly DCA in BTC bro

yorker95

A thousand BTC gets you to whale status, so that’s a nice goal. Should be able to accumulate that over the next few months for under $100mm. It could go up or down significantly at any time, impossible to know.

yorker95

30 BTC is a good place to start, but I think it’s best to buy more, yes. /s

MarketObserver1

Bull market is coming soons guys . Only 4k left if btc goes to 84k just start buying eth and alt coins Specially ETH BTC XRP going to give good return and my favourite one is CHAINLINK It’s not financial advice …

BigNoseParody

I will never ever create another Topic ridiculing 40k crew, infact I will apologize to them. I might secretly put a 40k buy order myself who knows. Sadly for them I'm 100% confident. I just see a clear path for BTC to prevail now with new laws, which will be aproved mark my words. There wont also be any hikes because that will hurt Japan, and they would sell off the bond market. I'm not even talking about astrology here, the 4 year cycle, screw all that. There are actually real live events there that benefit BTC, not to mention money printing mashine is back at full speed which further strengths core fundamentals of BTC. Bloomberg might actually be right, 500k at the end of 2023 alligns with my 200k prediction this year.

ZekeTarsim

Funny video but are people really celebrating this rally? Does anyone actually believe BTC bottomed? Cause I don’t!

devCheckingIn

When alts start to dump like that, BTC usually follows eventually.

2xfun

First of all I don’t have any kids. Then it’s not the houses going up, it’s the money being debased … real estate was just the substitute store of value society has picked. Never got into debt. Debt is slavery. Chill my dude … we all know the system is rigged. I am a BTC maxi but I have to say I fell like I am living in the Idiocracy movie atm.

SecureDigitalMarkets

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SecureDigitalMarkets

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PeteyPab305

Only assuming he doesn't have any children that would eventually become A beneficiary of a will or trust. Because that would make absolutely zero sense to convert to USD, especially when it coincides with a historical level of debasement and a potential revocation of the Petro dollar as the world reserve currency as JD Vance's advocating for. If not then yes let him enjoy his retirement but keeping one BTC out of that many just to not have to deal with volatility seems very short-sighted.

prayerrwow

I understand your point, what i mean is with crypto, blockchain, and all the unclear stuff around true ownership in the fiels things are not like the one you mentioned. For example, all the seed phrases already exist out there, when you create a wallet you dont generate a seed, you just use one that already exist and everybody can freely access and control as long as they have they keys. No adress belongs to anyone, if you can guess satoshi wallet phrase the BTC inside are yours to take, because no one can at 100% say you are not satoshi if you have the keys

ST-Fish

> BTC was never meant to be controlled by Corporations but lookie lookie. >Black rock and microstrategy own the Lionshare. Glad Bitcoin is POW, not like them having more bitcoin gives them any control over **the network** does the guy with the most gold "control" gold? Is your gold in your safe not yours anymore because someone else has a lot of it? huh?

InsightKnite

If you are buying to flip for profit than why tf are you wasting time with BTC? Both Solana and ETH do a 4.5x while if BTC hit ATH it would only be a 2x for the vast majority of holders. I know math is hard and all but ...

digital_current

BTC will bottom out at $41,250 in October of 2027.

InsightKnite

Just fyi for those that care at all. BTC on it's best day averages a 2x potential. If you are buying crypto to sell for profit BTC is actually one of the worst ROI coins in the world. Period. If you think BTC is going to be some global currency by all means have fun with that but if you are legitimately trying to gain income via crypto than you need to be paying attention to the potential multiplier on a coin and not it's TOTAL cost. You would think this is obvious but I can't explain how many people I see on these subreddits competely burning money on the table because they are saving for a 2x return after 10+ years of investment. It's wild.

LVL99stocks

I bought THOUSANDS to buy runescape gold with. They where maybe $.1 to .3 each? I bet that old computer has 10-14mm of BTC on it. Wherever it is.

MarioWilson122

Yeah, you might've missed this dip, but we can still potentially see $55k later this year for all we know. It's still a bear market year, and one strong rally doesn't necessarily mean the lows are behind us. BTC is still down around 30% from a year ago despite this recent run. The funny thing is even if it does get back to $55k, people waiting for that exact price can still hesitate once it gets there because they'll start thinking $50k or $45k is next. That's the real problem with waiting for the perfect entry.

Sensitive-Crew-6025

So owning 2.5 BTC is actually a big achievement?

OkLaw1527

So less then 5% of whole world holds BTC lol, are there so many altcoin holders who skip btc? 😄 😄

Capital-Line-8140

Naja der 4 jahres zyklus ist tot, würde dieser weiterbestehen, gäbe es kein zukunft fpr BTC

AquarianAge144

True. Im just specifically referring to Iran because it has such a strain on Energy. Oil going up is not good for BTC. Also. Agree on Saylor. I just dont think we need to keep being over there. We already destroyed their nukes and now we should be leaving but instead they wanna keep pushing so they can own the strait of hormuz. Not realizing that they are springing a trap that will set the economy back Big. I like that we pumped but if they start bombing eachother again i fear we may dump even lower than the 60k bottom we were working. However, elections are coming. So there is a possibility they put hostilities on hold and let us break free in order to secure votes. We will see.

mozy-rama

Most indicators on 1-day up to 5 days chart are over-bought territory (closer to 100). BTC is currently trying to break above the 50 day moving average on weekly chart, which is at $81.5k. Chances of that happening is very low as historically there's a higher probability that price action will hit 50-day moving average at least one time then pull back to recover. Price can hit the 200-day moving average before the final push above the 50-day. 200-day moving average is currently at $65k but is slowly moving up with each passing week. It was previously at $62k June 2026. Question is.. can BTC pull back to $65k or whatever the price will be at the time BTC hits the 200-day moving average on weekly chart. One thing is for sure... Stochastic RSI is extremely over-bought territory on 1-day to 5-day chart. Weekly chart is about 70% the way up? Price pull back will happen in the very near future. You have 2 options.. \- 1.) Wait for the pullback on BTC price to get in. It can go to 200-day moving average price which is now at $65k (again.. price is slowly moving up each passing week). \- 2.) Wait until BTC hits above 82/83k and confirm that as support. Then get in at that support level + stochastic RSI indicators should be over-sold territory (closer to 0 area). Less profit.. but a guarantee win!! You're pretty much trading out of pattern and locked in for a guaranteed win with following the uptrend ride up. Good luck!!

fittes7

I guarantee that this breed wouldn't invest a dime even if BTC would suddenly fall to 11k last night. They're just yappers and excusers, they're saying this excuse to feel better because they don't have the balls to invest.

neurone214

If you want this person or people to be caught, I probably wouldn't post about what they're doing wrong on the internet where they could very well read it. That said, from the commentary I've read, this person / these people seem reasonably sophisticated; I'm not in BTC (just interested in the drama), so I don't fully understand why this approach seems silly, but if it's glaringly so then maybe it's a red herring?

Amazing_Client_6950

Slowly accumulate BTC and hold it for 3–5 years.

Fit-Heron8411

I remember I used to exchange BTC to Linden dollars (Second Life currency) - I remember I had 1700 at one point 🙃🙃🙃