BTC

maddhy

ETH/BTC. One day you'll appreciate decentralisation.

GotABeeKiddin

I hear you. That's exactly why I'm on this board. I have no one to discuss BTC with. Everyone I mention it to thinks I am a misdirected fool.

SeaPsychological8398

First bear market for me I’m 21M been DCA for just over a year and trying to keep up but I might be moving out soon so that might need to stop. Im about 10% BTC in my portfolio now. Stack sats not fiat and good luck brother

OpticallyMosache

If you plan to be a diversified investor: Convert all savings into BTC now and invest in traditional markets with future earnings. (or) Convert a percentage of savings into BTC now and a percentage of all future earnings. It dawned on me that Option #1 is probably superior if you're someone that can buy 1-5 BTC now and still have many future years of earnings from employment. Thoughts?

The_Nothing00

I set a target of 120k and I still ended up not selling because all the schmucks crowing "It's different this time. We have institutional investors now. BTC will never go below 100k again! The four year cycles have ended. It's a super cycle now!"

ReliantToker

MSTR is amplified BTC so it is more likely to generate the 'generous' return you are looking for. It is, however, a company with third party risk, one of the main reason of getting Bitcoin in the first place.

Buydipstothemoon

Would be funny if a Altcoinseason starts tomorrow while BTC stagnates the whole time 😂

More_Ad3831

Just Don't trade them please for your safety, memes are just gambling with more data. You can make some money and loose it the next day. Be professional create systems and make your own analyses for more longer term investings with major coin like BTC People on telegram and other communities are give you signals for their advantage to make you an exit liquidity player. Please...

inbeforethelube

BTC isn't a security.

helluvatrader

Im participating in the market since 14 years (Not BTC, only last four years) and still didnt manage to get the buy and forget energy. It needs a lot of discipline and confidence in the investment to get to this point where you really dont care so its not an option one can actively choose.

Bear1232

I DCA earlier and worry less. I started weekly buying when we hit $80k. Would it have been better if I caught that $60k bottom? Sure, but in the grand scheme of things I believe BTC will eventually hit another ATH. The constant thinking and stress of worrying about catching the lows (1) probably won’t move the needle much on my basis and (2) won’t be worth the gains.

BTBL1

The majority of alts are going to be gone for good after this. No more scams, memes, or other types of bullshit. Maybe some coins like ETH will survive, but I just want to see Fartcoin go to fcking zero so all of its massive liquidity flows into BTC.

twendah

This is my exact thought. Even the nations have bought BTC already. Are the new buyers aliens or what? Who comes next? I believe we will have long bleed to 2017 levels and even celebrities will jump out and we go all the way back to 3-10k levels. From there only project with actual use case will survive, which are like 100 of the 200 million of crypto projects..

Kommandant_Milkshake

That is true... however the S&P 500 cannot and will not deliver 500% gains in two years like Bitcoin did from Dec 2022 to Dec 2024. The real money in BTC is made between cycles, by accumulating when it's in a bear market and selling sometime during the bull market. The nice thing about it, is that you don't necessarily have to time the top, you just need to sell sometime during the bull, and DCA throughout the bear.

Jes_Snowulf

I saw it when maga’s, who were originally anti-crypto, started asking me if they should buy BTC. A month later, BTC topped.

Prahasaurus

It's not about the "casino operator," it's about the actual paying users, few of why care about BTC. It's just extra friction.

Tube_Amp_Degen

Nobody at a large scale is going to use a currency that is so volatile and has no buyer protections. Let's be real, the main use crypto had as a currency was money laundering and elicit markets. Even then a lot of people who used crypto as currency for sneaky stuff during the 2010s realized how stupid we were when a bag of weed back then could have bought a small house today. Many companies that tried adopting it as an accepted currency during the early 2020s boom ended up jumping ship when they saw their BTC based income essentially halve in a value in a matter of months. BTC adoption as a currency failed, what's left is a highly volatile speculative commodity. Again, that's fine, there is money to be made, but BTC bros need to come to grips with the reality. BTC is closely tied to USD and the economy, if the other two fail so does BTC. The idea that crypto is a hedge against fiat and the Fed fuckery is ridiculous.

riscten

It's unlikely that the coins are still around, but considering Bitcoin was worth $13 to $1000 in 2013, you might be sitting on up to 77 BTC (worth $5.5M today), so it's worth prodding around to see if you can still access them. Since you mentioned adding a password, it's more likely that the coins where on an exchange. This is not great, as most exchanges from that era have gone down. The largest were Mt Gox, BTC-e, Bitstamp, Kraken, Coinbase, Bitfinex and BTC China. Each one has a different story. A few are still around. I think your best bet would be to chat with an LLM and look at screenshots online to try and figure out which one you used. Best case scenario would be Kraken as the coins would most possibly still be there in a dormant account.

Ukrann

A lot of BTC maxis will be born after this

RecklessStallion9999

Start scouring his email account for correspondence with an exchange such as Coinbase, or with the keywords ‘Bitcoin’ and ‘BTC’. If you’re lucky, you’ll find something and will be able to follow a lead. If not…

GeorgeOrrange

would be a reasonable argument if BTC was scalable and could be used for something other than hodl and hope number go up

GreenStretch

It's a good strategy if you have enough other money that you won't need to sell BTC if a problem comes up.

One_Barnacle_6191

It's just how much you can stomach to see (thus far temporarily) lose. I see BTC at 200k within 5 years.

Ge_Yo

15 years is solid. If you want extra utility along the way, native BTC staking is worth exploring. And later, trustless Bitcoin vaults could be a nice option once they go live.

tacocat_-_racecar

Either they’re dumb as hell or it’s a fugazi. Funny thing that this happened to a family member of a public figure right around the time BTC crashed. If criminals use crypto they would have asked for monero. BTC is a dumb option for ransom.

Dimension-Green-444

Waiting for BTC at 25k

bcoppari

Some random guy on the internet said BTC is going to crash and I should sell! Surely this guy is correct and I should listen! Go touch grass brother.

MusicalBonsai

Nothings changed since 2017. I buy regularly, BTC only. I treat this asset no different than anything else. Just like with my retirement accounts and personal brokerage, I just continually invest. I’ll sell only when I need to, and only the amount I need. I’ll never sell it all unless I absolutely have to.

Bubbly-Hope6968

There’s not much of a real link between inflation and BTC. Why you’d choose bitcoin over gold for that purpose is a mystery. Using things without intrinsic value to benefit from rising inflation is a wild take. It’s like saying here’s an option (gold) that does what you want when per print money and inflation rises, then choosing an options without those properties (BTC) instead. You could make money on the speculation, but it’s not going to track inflation. Kind of like using a hammer on a screw.

funkinaround

> there is strong evidence Tether does immediately issue them and put them into circulation specifically to buy BTC and thus prop up the price. There is no evidence of this. There is only evidence that Tether buys BTC with interest earned from cash and cash equivalents.

TheRealGypo

Sad to hear OP. A similar thing happened to me in 2021/22. I went heavy on pretty much all the coins you listed. Things were great at the beginning but then toward the end of 2021, it all came crashing down. I panicked and sold (this was a big mistake) and by the end of it, I was sitting on a 60% actual realized loss. It was painful. But I took what I had and DCA over the course of early 2022 for an entire year. At some point, I was catching BTC at $18k. I invested enough of what I had left that by the time the bull run came around last year, I was able to steadily triple my money to the point where I had made back all of the 60% I lost and then some. It took nearly 4 years and basically left me more or less where I started, but the point is you can make this money back if you’re patient enough. This experience honestly taught me to remove the emotional aspect of seeing your crypto balance go into the red by a scary amount. Once it doesn’t faze you anymore, and once you accept that you may never make that money back, you sleep easy. If you’re patient enough and don’t need the money, you might just make it all back. You may just need to wait a while and be very patient. Good luck :)

GeorgeOrrange

never before had the leadership of Core and blockstream exposed as connected to the most notorious child sex trafficker in human history.. for that reason alone everyone should swap to BCH(which works better than LTC) and send BTC to zero leaving the oligarchs holding the bags

proud_landlord1

The Agent/Bot is gonna just using Stablecoins. I don't understand how this might benefit the countless altcoins or BTC

lexxwern

Keep it simple .. If they print USD .. Gold and BTC will pump Silver and Alts are downstream of that. Alta is doubtable because all the gambling money is now with prediction markets such as PolyMarket.

ardus666

How much BTC did u have OP?

Azatis-

No you dont get it, i have BTC !

Willing_Gas7868

Solid plan. Buying in fear with a stepped DCA from 60 → 40 reduces timing risk, and aiming for an average around $50k is reasonable. Agree that 2026 looks more like a correction year than a straight run to a new ATH. What matters now is whether BTC can reclaim recent wick levels and rebuild demand.

Hungry_Mission_3933

That’s fair, but deferred preferred payouts would signal stress and weakness long before BTC sales ever would.

DBFargie

Still at a 65k purchase average on BTC. My alts on the other hand… happy BTC is 60% of my portfolio!

Progress_8

Fundstrat’s head of digital strategy, Sean Farrell, on Dec. 17th, 2025, predicted that the bottoming for BTC $60–65K and ETH $1.8–2.0K. You can join the action or wait until the ship passes you by.

ImpressiveCitron420

Love how you’re being downvoted for actually using your bitcoin to change your life. Would people downvote the same if you said you purchase a house with BTC but didn’t mention fiat at all?

NPC_With_Agency

100%. IOTA saw the vision first. The difference is infrastructure vs. standards. IOTA tried to bootstrap a whole new network from scratch. x402 just patches the existing internet (HTTP) to accept existing money (BTC/USDC). No niche token needed, just a standard protocol. Great point though. They were definitely the pioneers.

AnonymousLiberal

Why would a true believer in BTC waste their time on this subreddit rather than stacking? There is a reason the silent majority is silent.

Kontrav3rsi

Being helped into existence by Epstein isn’t a “leverage test”. That fact will never change, it is mutable, BTC is a pedo coin and everyone around the world now knows it was used to traffic underaged victims. “Leverage test” more like a morals check.

Tube_Amp_Degen

This line of thinking is broken. 95%+ of crypto holders have zero intention of using it as a currency, they simply want to sell it to the next person for more USD than they paid. BTC's value is absolutely tied to fiat, specifically USD. Take out the highly speculative gambling aspect of current day BTC investment and it would be worth a fraction of its price today. Having a set number of BTC in circulation means nothing when the primary use of it is glorified fiat gambling. FYI if USD collapses than crypto goes too. The first thing to be offloaded in time of uncertainty is highly volatile assets, which BTC wins that award by a long shot. Those violent swings that make people rich are exactly why it's a poor currency. Nobody wants to spend a currency that can 2x in a year, on the flip side nobody wants to accept a currency that can halve in months (this is broad stroke). If you really believe that USD and the Sp500 will implode you should be buying rural land far away from populated areas, food, guns/ammo, and ways to secure water. If the economic collapse really happened we would see mass civil unrest and the erosion of modern society. Over 60% of the economy is service jobs and the US doesn't have manufacturing to fall back on for rebounding like the great depression days, we are talking unemployment rates that would make the GD look like child's play.

Woodpecker5987

One scenario you might be missing is rotation without capitulation BTC chops through the bear phase while capital quietly reallocates into defensive TradFi assets like gold and indices, then flows back when risk stabilizes. That’s partly why having access to both on Bitget TradFi helps you don’t have to exit the ecosystem to hedge or rotate while still holding core BTC through whichever scenario plays out.  

itsadiseaster

All your 0.05 BTC just flooded the market.

cake__eater

This is the buy more phase. Nothing changes. DCA is the way. This cycle I’ve introduced BTC to my children and started send them bitcoin instead of cash.

HSuke

OP thinks he's the main character after buying 1 BTC.

Legal-Net-4909

This is basically where a lot of people end up after a full cycle or two. Not because BTC is exciting, but because everything else adds layers of timing risk. The “BTC moves first” part matters more than most realize. Even in strong alt cycles, BTC usually leads, then chops, then alts maybe get their window. Missing that rotation is how people get stuck holding bags for years.

Progress_8

Fundstrat’s head of digital strategy, Sean Farrell, on Dec. 17th, 2025, predicted that the bottoming for BTC $60–65K and ETH $1.8–2.0K. You can join the action or wait until the ship passes you by.

Open_Organization722

Send it. I’m blue collar union. I have an annuity (100% employer funded) and a (95% employer funded) 401k. I dumped half of the 401k took the penalty and tax, paid off high interest bullshit debt and invested the rest to the tune of 3/4s of a coin. This was when it was in the low 40s. BTC at 71 I’m still on top of the investment into it but probably not the tax hit as of right now. Regardless that changes with the roller coaster. BTC is a long term strategy. If you’re thinking 2-5 years this ain’t the right game. Think 15-20.

wgcole01

That last time I bought BTC was in 2019 at about $3400. I still hold every sat I bought.

Aromatic_Bed_8439

I can't get my eyes to stop bouncing up and down. And now, for SOME strange reason, I've got a hankering for a nice milkshake!!😲😉🙀🤯😱. Now, what ANY of this has to do with BTC, I haven't the FOGGIEST idea! 👀🤔🤷🙏🤗❤️👍😁👋

__redruM

While he’s clearly using vibes, BTC does always recover to it’s ATH given enough time sometimes it’s a couple months, sometimes a couple years.

agnelvishal

No XRP since I don't see any use case with it. More in BTC and zcash.

Aerocryptic

>The big question is whether this is the start of a bear market and whether I’m being too impatient Yeah I pretty much play defense since early November. Majority of my pf is in stables. 2nd position is the remaining BTC I keep for long term. I kept some TAO that I didn't sell and I'm slowly investing them in subnets as there's a nice upside potential if I pick a winner. I also have another alt position that I did not touch, cause it's still in dev so there's no point in selling before the team delivers major perks. Have you seen the latest hyoe around this new gen of agents clawbots?

TheBigLR901

Ahh, bitcoin dead again. Music to my ears.. Confirms BTC stronger than ever now when this FUD hits.

synthwave_man

Thats what the 4 year cycle priests have told you. But that theory isn't a guarantee for anything. I think it will be invalidated this year once and for all, with BTC going back up to at least 100k, perhaps even ATH.

whisperedstate

Agreed. The halvening will reduce security to insignificant amounrs of BTC issued in the late 2030s / early 2040s. So by the time quantum computing see's uses, Bitcoin will already be in the process of being abandonned.

delta-70million

🚨Spoiler alert: I don't wanna break it down for you pal, but if you keep doing this without knowing the intrinsic value of bitcoin, you will end up lossing. Taking out loans to buy BTC is crazy, i know you might say it has been working out fine so far. Yeah so far...

Prahasaurus

This entire discussion was about the risk of having your assets frozen (check title of original post). Decentralized stablecoins eliminate that risk entirely. And you have the advantage of being pegged to the US Dollar, like Tether. That's what users want for payments. They don't want BTC, the market is very clear on that. They want dollars, and if it's crypto, they want dollar stablecoins. So the ideal solution is decentralized dollar stablecoins. Nobody is going to use BTC for payments. Just look at the failure in El Salvador. Look at the failure of Lightning. Yes, sure, you have different risks, including smart contract risk, etc. But that is a separate discussion. No technology, including sending BTC from one wallet to another, is without risk.

No_Giraffe_4647

I have a split with a top 10 coins and here my ranking BTC ETH HBAR CC XRP SOL ZRO ICP SUI DOVU

Merchant1010

BTCI looks real attractive. Plus BTC $65k was lowest it could get for a long time, this is my POV: https://preview.redd.it/hs4xjbn42aig1.png?width=1563&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e1f24a60dc8fdb0dab24bfb1de908f5bea9aa06

Necessary-Nature-380

If BTC is so cheap, investors will not need any leverage to get liquidated...

Arlennx

If quantum is able to hack BTC, it is not like any person with a pc can do it. It would take government lvl backing or big money that would need to even find the equipment and talent, that could be able to do it. And if it does happen, BTC will be the least of our worries as that would mean fiat/banks would easily be hacked before BTC. This fear is overblown.

StaticWood

What is with the 2% claim?? Approximately 1.2 million bitcoin left to mine. 2 percent is 24000 BTC per day. Block reward is 3.125 BTC makes 7680 mined blocks per day. 1 block per 10 minutes on average. Needs 1280 hours in a day 🤷🏼‍♂️ Probably he’s trying to point out they contribute 2% of the total hash power!

Efficient-Listen7784

There would be 0 crypto if $BTC failed. You fail to realize with each decimal of diminished supply on a hard cap capital is lock and stored forever. Literally it can’t go to zero + inactive wallets/lost wallets holding everlasting value if never decided forever. Whoops

quintavious_danilo

I exchanged all my ETH for BTC today. It's pointless, because I've held ETH for three years and am now exactly where I was three years ago, while my BTC – which I bought at the same time back then – is still 100% higher than it was three years ago, despite the recent price drops. From now on, BTC is the only option for me.

Badj83

I’m ok with BTC plummeting to $300 if this bitch can lose more money because of it.

debilitatingjoy

GPT - write a speech to rally the BTC holders as if you were Braveheart.

Washingtonwilly

Just a bit of advice, don't give advice. BTC is not foolproof as many want you to believe.

TheFyreLord

If you dont have BTC, just buy peer-to-peer (robosats, bisq or hodl hodl - www.kycnot.me). If you have bitcoin, sorry. They know. But you can hide: - bitcoin on exchange -> your wallet -> coinjoin it -> peg in into liquid network -> 3 ou 4 peg outs to another wallet, dont reutilize UTXO.

jkl2035

Think BTC has to solve it on their own, and they will

jkl2035

Sure it will not happen in the next 2-3 years, nevertheless a) Migration for BTC will take several years, so discussion has to start way before the risk becomes real, b) there‘s a lot of acceleratuon observable in quantum computing area, Alphabet just warned of further risks there a few days ago in a blogpost

NorthernH3misphere

Zoom out and look at peaks and valleys over the last 10 years, realize that with every dip there has been: “panic selling, I told you so from critics, BTC is going to 0 etc”. Then look at the all time history and connect all the lowest points to today, notice how it just keeps going up over time. How likely it is that BTC is dying here? 91k is significant, I’d talk to a financial advisor.

mariopuzo98

I’m buying every week and that’s DCA. I regretted I didn’t keep the BTC when I bought at 400.

Turtle_TraderPK

Sorry to tell you but BTC will max pump till 90k and after that we will likely see 20-30k$ in 2026-2027

Next_Statement6145

Two days ago, someone sent 2.5 BTC to Satoshi’s wallet. What is it with rich people?

Important-Minimum777

That's what I said. When you see the price, it's for 1 BTC and not a block. Easier for people to conceptualize.

willmorecars

No send that BTC to a custodial wallet. Not your keys, not your coins.

Blockchainauditor

Perhaps you should hang back a bit. Why do you think reinvesting is a good way idea? Why were you so influenced by the headlines and what has changed for you? Your two actions - selling a house for BTC and panic selling - are both very drastic measures.

bobbyv137

I would be surprised if Bitcoin doesn't achieve $5tn market cap thus $250k per BTC by the end of this decade.

Blockchainauditor

How confident are you that it is actual BTC and not a token masquerading as BTC? I would not worry about the Trezor. Addresses are independent from wallets and the system permits anyone to send to an address, much like you can’t stop people from emailing you, you can only filter. No one deposits to your Trezor; they deposit to an address on a blockchan you control because of your Trezor,

Mohowl_

That's a big loss mate, sorry to read it. You could buy back in, if your time horizon is 3 - 4 years. There is a very high probability that BTC will reach another ath again around that time frame. If you sell at 122k, you would have only lost between 63k and what ever you bought it back at, or alternatively wait for that amount tone above 122k. It depends if you need that cash now or you can wait, that's really the only question to ask yourself. If yes - buy in, but you have to believe in wat BTC is, not just use it because you thought it'd make you mega bucks. If no - find other investments for your remaining money to grow. Either way, you will have to wait. Personally I'm down €50k with BTC, but I can wait it out.

Alternative_Show9800

yep. BTC maxi, way to go, anything at these levels is so good...just need 4+ year horizon

EarningsPal

Conveniently timed headline from Forbes Next: BTC going to 0 from Seeking Alpha Then: Analysis Reports Bitcoin is Dead by Motley Fool

Hot_Philosopher3199

lol. Take a deep breath and look at the many other investments that are great investments. Find something that works better for you. I invest in BTC and disruptive tech. My stocks have done a lot better than BTC over the past 2 years.

CoffeeAlternative647

So why the post is pricing it in dollars instead of BTC ?

Important-Minimum777

Probably because Bitcoin is priced per BTC and not per block.

Low_Date1078

Truth is anyone without real balls ⚾️ ⚽️stays IN the game! Glad to see a NORMAL BTC drop, happens every other year… stay calm and buy the dip and stack and stake!

Commercial_Ad_9864

there's zero risk of layoff it's my business - I am borrowing a few thousand nothing crazy. And I keep the interest right back into my account... Garnishing is a bad word - as i will still be buying $60/day BTC regardless of the loan payments of 52 weeks ... so yes i can afford it. But i understand your concerns. 0 risk of layoff

dinosaur-boner

Right, except I'm saying there is strong evidence Tether does immediately issue them and put them into circulation specifically to buy BTC and thus prop up the price. Do you get it now? In the end, they are insanely profitable now so they are able to back their issuance. Their actions over the years were not (and likely still are not) kosher. Hence their refusal to do audits, where the order of operations does matter.

CXavier4545

hell yeah he top blasts BTC like no other and he dgaf

Blatter95

BTC wird steigen, der abstürzt letzter Woche war bedingt durch Südkorea, es wurden 42Mrd $ an Bitcoin irrtümlich versendet an Kunden und hat eine Verkauftsreaktion ausgelöst. Bitcoin wurden wieder zurückgeholt an Südkorea. Wir werden bald die 100.000$ sehen!!!

Caspica

You don't really understand economics, do you? If people en masse took their BTC off the exchanges then the liquidity in the asset would go down. For a financial product that's very rarely a good thing. 

helluvatrader

Not worth it. Your phone will break before you have earned enough to buy a coffee. Its way cheaper to buy BTC instead

DangerHighVoltage111

The throughput of BTC is way to tiny. This was the first crash that you couldn't see in the mempool. Why? Because nobody self custodies anymore.

DangerHighVoltage111

This was the first crash that you couldn't see in the mempool.... BTC is fully assimilated, even inflated. p2p cashers warned against this. Throughput is necessary so that fees stay low so that everyone can self-custody.

Azatis-

When these guys decide to unload their bags because it’s not a question of *if* but *when* it will be the biggest massacre in BTC history