BTC

wizardofwestworld

Bought my first several BTC for under $700 ~10 years ago. Found the thesis compelling and I’ve been buying daily ever since. Still a believer even at these prices.

ABahRunt

Base your assumptions in today's world, not of 5 years ago. If you want to model an emergency, consider you bought 6 months of emergency money into btc in January 2025. Now it's worth 10% less, after a year. If there's a huge worldwide emergency now, and you lose your income, and BTC crashes to 45k. You're left with 45% of the emergency fund you've had, after 1 year. That's what a triple whammy is: you've lost income, emergency fund as well as opportunities to find another job.

MariachiArchery

If you buy BTC today, there is a 99.99% chance you will at some point be in a losing position. The inverse is also true. The real question is, are you prepared to hold onto your investment when it starts to decrease in value?

gihkal

Ya. Core sabotaged BTC. It doesn't matter now. Pandora's box is open. There are plenty of methods to protect individuals that want to transact without overreach. The government fears crypto so they made nonsensical claims about it being a commodity. Which it isn't. It's a currency.

Aggressive_Buy_2075

Tbh selling a rapidly depreciating Mustang for a shot at an appreciating asset is way less crazy than people will say, especially at 22 with time on your side. Only thing I’d watch is how heavy you are in correlated BTC plays like MSTR and MARA instead of just stacking actual BTC. If this cycle rips you’ll forget all about that Mustang when you’re speccing out the Corvette 😂

Sudden_Lake42069

I'll trade you some Pokémon cards for a bucket of BTC after the crash.

Doc_SaasFdr24

I’m new to Bitcoin, you invest and ride the waves…forget all about BTC for the next 20-30 years. Look at your cold wallet balance upon retirement. Don’t be a tortured soul.

Wadafak19

Thank goodness I bought 80% of my BTC in 2022 DCAing through the year.

Livid_Theory_7707

I agree with OP, but there is a catch to this which will play out in the long term: gradually there will be more and more people who are holding long term. Especially for coins as BTC & ETH. So the less available it will come. And the prices will have to go up anyway. A lot of markets are being manipulated. Try to ignore it at daily basis and look at the long term. Or do some day trading

Watpotfaa

You lost nearly half of what you paid into the car so that you could buy into BTC and lose nearly half of the car’s proceeds. Not a terrible idea but bad timing and even worse execution. We got a long way before it bounces off the bottom and starts another climb to the moon.

toddtimes

Have you looked at a BTC price graph lately?!? It’s not depreciating (because that word has specific meaning) but it’s still losing value from its peak faster than that Mustang did

Additional_Dirt8695

No matter what year it is or who tells you what, remember Bitcoin has always followed the BTC halving cycle. If you're so new you don't what that is then look it up. I've been through 3 cycles, about 10 years. Every time there's a different group of people giving different reasons why BTC goes up and why it goes down. The only thing that matters long term is the halving cycle, Idk why but that's how it is. Everyone was so sure it was going to end the year over $130k and were now down $36k from recent highs. That is because we are 18 months from the last halving. 

CourseDazzling9537

Learn about UTXO management so the BTC you buy will not dissolve.

resellprice

Damn a $24,000 loss in one year. I hope BTC shoots up in price, so you can recoup your losses. When I worked in the car business my General Manager used to say "A loss is nothin' to a boss!".

Lemurtime2

There are bad years. There are really really bad years, massive hacks and BOJ interest rate hikes which have had in the past a negative effect on BTC. There's regulatory uncertainty. It's a long game. Be prepared to hold for at least 4 years, preferably longer, as digital gold regains it's footing, and the value of digital hard money becomes fashionable again. Need that conviction to get through the valleys 

richardto4321

Actually, numerous people (including myself) have been able to use it to exchange for everyday goods and services. Many places/people accept it and you just have to keep an open mind. You chose not to use it because you don't find it necessary or useful. That's completely fine. It's a free world and no one is forcing anyone to do anything. But to say that nowhere/nobody accepts BTC as money and it can't be used anywhere is disingenuous and biased.

Appropriate_Roof_862

Ok gotcha. If BTC is adopted world wide, the price for goods and services would go up and down with market volatility? Exp…. Average price of 1 Satoshi in 2024 was .00045. You would need 11,111.11 to buy a $5.00 bundle of bananas. Average price of 1 Satoshi in 2025 this year is .00102. You would need 4,902.96 to buy the same amount of banans.

BeefonWeck00

i own 200k worth of BTC, ETH, XRP, SOLANA, TRAC and then a handful of other shit coins. the ones i mentioned are my biggest bags and im well positioned. My portfolio is nowhere near where it has been at it's peak several times, but i continue to hold waiting for the day the "super cycle" someday comes.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A debate emerged about the potential impact of a quantum computer hacking Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin stash and selling the 1 million BTC, potentially causing a market crash. Bitcoin expert Willy Woo noted that many Bitcoin OGs would buy during such a flash crash, and the network would survive. Older Bitcoin wallets, including Satoshi's, are vulnerable to quantum attacks, but newer wallets are more secure. Experts like Adam Back believe Bitcoin has decades to adopt quantum-resistant cryptography before quantum computers pose a real threat. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

There are probably approximately 2-4 million BTC (my guess) in wallets with lost keys due to apathy, ignorance, or death. One could almost argue that if those coins were able to eventually come back on the market, it would be a good thing, as it would mean that BTC has a chance of getting close to its intended long-term usable supply approaching 21 million BTC. I wouldn't argue in favour of that position, but some would. What I definitely would argue against, however, is "20-40 years." It's coming.

Appropriate_Roof_862

Maybe I should have been a little more specific. This is just for conversation. If bitcoin were $10,000 BTC and 21 million were privately owned ( minus the ones that are supposedly lost forever) and the price of the existing supply went up by 30% per year because the crypto gods say so, couldn’t the holders charge more for Satoshis to buyers that want in and could have certain % return YOY negotiation with the buyer like a high yield savings?

Small_Appearance2014

Start small, consider well-known coins like BTC or ETH, and explore promising projects like RYO for real-world utility. Focus on learning and consistency rather than chasing quick profits.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Zoom out. Meme coins have performed horribly against BTC. Everyone calling for alts to go lower when they don't realize alts have been in a bear market for 4 years. Most crypto influencers talked about BTC only the past few years, including Ivan on ~~Tech~~BTC, "~~Altcoin~~" BTC Daily, ~~Cryptos~~BTCrus. I stopped watching their Bitcoin shilling years back. Your Friend Sommi is a lot more entertaining than those losers.

Tyjet66

Thank you for reminding people why you should never buy new vehicles. Good luck with BTC!

__Ken_Adams__

>While yes I do agree that BTC is largely more free and fair than fiat by almost every metric, you still have the issue of amassing the lions share of it in a largely centralized location. It sounds like you misunderstand the true meaning of "decentralization". Decentralization doesn't mean "decentralization of ownership" & never aspired to solve wealth inequality.

Confident-Tank-1036

Bought mined and HODL. have a few🤠 Most people forgot just a few years ago BTC wasn't worth shit like in 2020 during covid 5K USD Ming and block rewards were higher. So for the stupid people that are all like oh you don't have this and that, invest in it the right moment stack it then swap if needed the money.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

ETH has had 9 red months since December 2024. BTC has not had the same kind of negative performance. Ethereum's fundamentals are sound, so it has been mispriced by an irrational market. BTC dominance might trend down similar to 2017 and 2021. The 2025 BTC.D chart looks very similar to 2017 and 2021. Change the style to Candles, and 12 months. Zoom in until you see it like this: [https://i.postimg.cc/9CMQcj3t/BTC-DOMINANCE-CHART.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/9CMQcj3t/BTC-DOMINANCE-CHART.jpg) [https://www.tradingview.com/chart/JhkJkbxB/?symbol=CRYPTOCAP%3ABTC.D](https://www.tradingview.com/chart/JhkJkbxB/?symbol=CRYPTOCAP%3ABTC.D)

berry-7714

There are few stocks that have performed worst this year than BTC, being like a stock would be a plus

Diego-Crypto

Okay, okay, while I'm telling you, BTC reached 90, I'll close my long position peacefully 😊

Unlucky-Map-8969

Sellers need buyers to sell BTC. Buyers need sellers to buy BTC. Exchanges are not sellers of BTC. They are simply intermediaries that bring buyers and sellers together. As long as the transaction history still exists, buyers and sellers will still exist. If everyone were a seller, no transactions would ever happen. If everyone buys, no transactions will ever occur. Therefore, the chart automatically moves with all transaction history in real time. 

FilmDazzling4703

As long as there are people to sell it you can buy it. If no one is selling and buy pressure persists the price will rise until someone is willing to sell. Mining will end or from what I understand the block rewards will at least, which would theoretically end mining. So then the only sats moving would be what holders are selling. Unless the community as a whole decides at that point to alter the tech somehow to create more or recycle lost ones. I really hope the future community will not do this, but it’s impossible to predict what the culture will look like in 2140 when the last BTC is mined

Diego-Crypto

I think we shouldn't rush things. The market and BTC thrive on liquidity, and we are the liquidity. So it has to go up to go down and down to go up. We as traders have to learn to ride the waves of the market.

Hot_Philosopher3199

Like I said, if I lose the 1/3rd that's perfectly okay because if BTC is not >122 by then, the thesis is broken. Don't worry about me, I know what I am doing and I have very calculated risk.

GivePeaceaChancex10

So what are you driving now? I actually did the opposite and bought a car with BTC profits to take a little off the table back in 2021 and have zero regrets despite Bitcoin's appreciation. I still hold plenty

Far_Calligrapher_437

My idea is to accumulate for at least 10 years. That way you can enjoy what you've accumulated. Today, 0.1 BTC is worth only $10,000, but when 1 Bitcoin is worth $1 million, I can enjoy $100,000. With $100,000 you are a millionaire in any country in the world, outside the US and Europe. In the next 10-15 years, we may not be able to do this anymore, since buying Bitcoin will become more expensive and you will have to work to obtain it, as Bitcoin will be widely used as a global currency.

Rajking777

BTC became a real asset only because people buy and sell it. If everyone simply held forever and never traded, Bitcoin wouldn’t function as Bitcoin at all.

jwz9904

ETH performing better than BTC recently. Magic by Tom Lee?

theincognito66

you'll start to see people talking about Satoshis more than BTC when that happens. As long as there is a demand, there will be a market.

BTCWallahFXEmpire

Its like real estate. You wanna buy it but its just too unaffordable. Good thing: one can break a BTC down into 8th decimal point unlike a real estate so no worries, you'll still be able to find a seller who wants to pay his credit card bills after selling BTC.

Kind_Soup_9753

Why would you though? The less dollars is no dollars like BTC kills the dollar, euro, yuan. All of them.

Kind_Soup_9753

I don’t spend sats very often, I pay bills and everything left goes to BTC. When you have been through a couple cycles you’ll get it. I don’t see red anymore I’ll tell ya that. And I personally think the growth rate is going to pick up speed. We now have countries, corporations, ETF’s all stacking and with limited supply for the first time ever it’s going to melt minds that haven’t spent the time researching it. And no I won’t be selling as I can now borrow against it tax free.

Ok_Golf_6467

BTC bull, alts bear. Crypto can do what the fuck it wants lol

inShambles3749

Yeah in 2018 BTC was 4k or so and I had 500 bucks in the bank. I asked for loans everywhere. By the time I got a 10k loan BTC was back at 8k. Well, life's tough when you're poor...

Ok_Golf_6467

ISM trending up, Fed injecting liquidity, institutional support for BTC/ETH to name a few

Chattaboog

Best bet... wait for BTC to drop below 70 and throw in everything you have. It will only grow. If you have the capital, 25% + can be a game changer. Im gonna buy XPL at this bottom and cross my fingers, but im not going big on it. Just hoping for a 10x someday with like a 1k bet.

Kind_Soup_9753

You only have less BTC if you sell. Count sats not dollar value.

richardto4321

And by your logic, you might as well compare it to Tulips that are still being sold everywhere. It's an open/free market. The market participants determine the value and utility. Could BTC eventually have the same fate as Tulips and NFTs one day? Absolutely. But to imply that BTC has not gained wider adoption and recognition throughout the years is pretty ignorant.

Kind_Soup_9753

He’s saying BTC will get rid of the dollar. (Less dollars) And we ain’t selling our sats for no sea shells. (Not looking for profits but insulation from money printing) I didn’t see anyone that got this if I am even correct.

Blockchainauditor

The first Bitcoin faucet was 2010 ... the first Bitcoin was 2009 ... what makes you think you were given 5 free BTC in 2008-2009? There was something called  "Facebook Credits" in May 2009, What documentation do you have for being given 5 BTC on Facebook in 2008-2009?

FilmDazzling4703

I plan to be all 5 the hell? Tbh tho end of the day married is probably the most valuable thing here, I prioritize true love over education/real estate/businesses/BTC but that’s just me. If I had to pick to loose all but one, I’d lose everything but my partner. Still love BTC tho

Fun-Sundae4060

Lol I’m 26 have my own residence, rental properties and 2 businesses thanks to TSLA stock. I have a wife and kid, maybe I should pay you $2 to jerk my meat 💀 And maybe one day you’ll actually get your timing correct with those $2 on BTC

JimmyB889

BTC is never going to be a million.

botle

>there are people involved in trading BTC on both the demand and supply side, who spend time and energy and money to extract the asset much like gold. All those uses are for running and maintaining the Bitcoin infrastructure itself. >I buy bitcoin because I genuinely believe in the technology and its ability to fix our financial system. Is that not speculation? Are you not buying it because you speculate that it will be valued more in the future. Imagine if you believed that Bitcoin is the future and will revolutionize the world of finance, but will do so while staying at it's current price. Would you still buy it then? A stock in a company that makes something will pay you dividends even if it doesn't increase in price.

OBXAngler15

First things first, there are no “crypto experts”. Literally nobody knows where this market will go in the short term. That being said, I’m in the same position as you. I have some money to deploy but the market is in such a weird place right now, I have no idea if it’s going up or down. I’m holding tight to see if a trend starts soon. If it takes another leg down, I’m willing to start deploying some more cash in quality utility plays and BTC.

FilmDazzling4703

there are people involved in trading BTC on both the demand and supply side, who spend time and energy and money to extract the asset much like gold. People don’t just buy bitcoin for speculation. I buy bitcoin because I genuinely believe in the technology and its ability to fix our financial system. People act like it’s a big mystery why our economy sucks, when all the data points to 1971 going off the gold standard.

Chrysalis1111

Todays average multimillionaire has no hope of acquiring a whole Bitcoin. Do the maff. Number of millionaires vs number of BTC up for sale.

Diego-Crypto

Relax, you're not the only one with this strategy; there are thousands of them, and if it reaches 90 again, many people can profit. Holding isn't the only way to make money with BTC.

aribului

BTC is so useful I can go out and buy stuff at almost any grocery store, bars, airports… so widely accepted. Almost everyone out there is walking around with their crypto wallets tapping away and using their awesome satoshis. Let’s pretend Amazon, Walmart, target, Costco, eBay, Safeway, Kroger and so on alllll accept satoshis. So useful. Tech of the future for sure

Nossa30

When bear, HODL BTC. When bull, stay in BTC.

TeaGroundbreaking306

MSTR has more BTC than countries do. That’s bananas.

NefariousnessOwn6890

I choose BTC and no groceries over not bitcoin

NefariousnessOwn6890

Just DCA. Even if you buy the pumps it’s predicted to 210x in 20 years, so doesn’t make a huge difference. I put away a percentage of my paycheck in BTC, treat it like a 401k

anymonero

Not even that: > scammers Solana > drug dealers Monero > nerd buying jpegs Ethereum ... yeah, BTC is useless

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Free-Resolution9393

Well there is actually two ways for 1 BTC to become worth $1M. One is good for you, but other one isn't. Both won't make you rich with 0.03 of it though.

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Extreme fear hasn’t even come yet, it will when we hit 50s on BTC

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Codebender

If anyone can tell how much BTC you have that's entirely your fault, just as it would be if they knew your bank balance.

Louis_Gara

39m. Started in 2020, just DCA. At one point I had 2 BTC, but my dumbass had a little over 1 in a BlockFi interest bearing account when they went under. I did get some money back after a year, but the mfers gave me the cash equivalent to what BTC was worth the day they halted withdrawals. Needless to say if they just returned my BTC in kind, I’d be much better off. I got back up to about 1.3 this year, but sold .3 a few months ago to buy a vacant lot adjacent to our house for half the appraised land value. I still DCA daily, but I’m sitting at around 1 now. I’ve learned a lot over the last 5 years, mainly not to trust any exchanges with large amounts.

Strange_Age5499

Congrats on joining the 1 BTC club! The best ivestment decision you made was holding on What's next? 2X, 3X, moon? 🚀

Foxsyder

A good leverage after a big BTC sell-off following big news is a good strategy

FuckSteveHuffman3

Top: Normal BTC hodlers Bottom: People who has 0.01 BTC and check the price at least 10 times every hour.

thethoughtstream

That incorruptible argument is always funny to me. While yes I do agree that BTC is largely more free and fair than fiat by almost every metric, you still have the issue of amassing the lions share of it in a largely centralized location. Of course it will never be fully centralized, but a controlling definitely could be. I'm also genuinely curious, what is people's answer to the problem of a potential technology that could render the Blockchain obsolete? In other words, being so powerful that it could solve the hash essentially immediately?

Kernel___Panic

1 BTC would still equal 1 BTC.

TempleofXin

Wanting/needing 1 Bitcoin is completely arbitrary. BTC will be so high at some point we should all get used to breaking it down into SATS. Do "millionaires" say "I want 1 gold plz"?

NewNewspaperB

Business as usual. DCA if you can afford to. BTC is King 👑 Worried about price movement... Charts... Ppl need to move on. BTC is a long game.

Cute-Championship-86

If you want to play it safe, then just invest in BTC and ETH. I’m not a financial advisor though. ALWAYS do your OWN RESEARCH before investing in anything.

Seattleman1955

Why can you just not ever sell anything? Some are trading, some are diversifying, some need the money. Not everyone is 21 with .1 BTC.

coinluv

BTC was $2400 then $1800 when I started in 2017. I squandered it on sh\*t coins. I started over in 2020 and just DCA. I'm old as dirt. I already gave my Bitcoin to my heirs. Now I just play with some coins for fun. All you have to do is DCA and buy more when there is a dip.

BacchusAndHamsa

A third world hellhole with small BTC holdings is significant... why?

Purplenastie

You need to study and make your own decisions. Every one tries to sell you the coin they bought and they probably bought because some tik tok vid or you tube guy told them to buy. My advise, all crypto investment should be long term. Safest play, BTC then ETH Best return on investment and still safe $QNT (Study Quant Network) Other good plays $HBAR, $TAO, Safest play, split investment over all 5.

Thegame_changer21

My terms were wrong cause I didn’t know exactly what they were Shrimp Less than 1 BTC Usually everyday holders. Most people fall here. ⸻ 🦀 Crab 1–10 BTC Serious individual investors. Often long-term holders. ⸻ 🐙 Octopus 10–50 BTC High–net-worth individuals or early adopters. ⸻ 🐬 Dolphin 50–100 BTC Very large private holders or small institutions. ⸻ 🐳 Whale 100–1,000 BTC Institutions, funds, exchanges, OG miners. ⸻ 🐋🐋 Humpback / Mega Whale 1,000+ BTC Exchanges, governments, Satoshi-era wallets.

gold1982

Bars!! I’ll check out River for sure. I’m definitely all BTC no crypto. I haven’t even thought about the benefits of mining, I always thought I needed a super computer to actually mine any BTC so I’ll look into this too.

PResidentFlExpert

Asking BTC stans to do an unbiased read of the chart

Low_Masterpiece1560

All that *really* matters is what precisely is *driving* the price of BTC. Honest answers to these questions is a useful guide: 1. Has BTC become more useful than it was ten years ago? 2. Is BTC paying more dividends today than it did ten years ago? 3. Do retail BTC investors buy BTC in the hope that it will keep pace with inflation, or because they think BTC price will double in six months? 4. Was retail buying or selling BTC @120K? 5. Were the "whales" and institutional players buying or selling BTC @120K?

RetiredAvocado

Bitcoin owners around here have some zeal. But bitcoin traders treat it just like any other thing to buy and sell. They will sell bitcoin or msft shares without much hesitation if they need capital to cover margin. One hope is that whoever is going to end up buying BTC from them has a long term holder mindset. I have a recurring monthly purchase order. No, I'm not adding a whole lot to the overall buy side support, but the sats I buy will not need to be sold to cover any margin debt when bubbles elsewhere burst. I don't have any margin debt to pressure me to sell. Some percentage of people are probably the same as me.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

I bought 3.5 BTC at $4k, then it dropped to $2.5k and I felt like a fool. Then it went to $12k and I sold 3 and felt like a genius. Then it went to $24k and I felt like a fool and fomo’d back in. Then it went to $16k and I sort of gave up on timing it and decided to just DCA. No regrets since I started DCA’ing.

RespectFront1321

I guess not having a CEO/VCs/founders to dump on you is a big plus. The vast majority of BTC maximalists got rid of their BCH a long time ago as well. There’s probably more upside here.

RespectFront1321

I guess not having a CEO/VCs/founders to dump on you is a big plus. The vast majority of BTC maximalists got rid of their BCH a long time ago as well. There’s probably more upside here.

Pkrinv

Perhaps they mean that they seek those things, and it doesn’t have them, as you said.  And yeah. The digital labubu statement is somewhat reasonable.  BTC value is only held in the belief of people wanting it to have value and demand.  Mature BTC has never seen a real long term recession. I’m not a BTC hater, and I’ll hold what I have so long as it doesn’t overtake 10% of my nw again, then I’ll go get my cold wallet out of the bank box and sell down again. I’m not a BTC hater, but when a recession starts happening ( if it does) In America at least, the first asset your average person is going to sell is their collectible digital coins, because the vast majority don’t view it as a currency to be used as a one world currency. They view it as a collectible that goes up in value, like gold or silver or baseball cards but non tangible. And it’s fast and easy to sell on an exchange within minutes. When people have to worry about their mortgage payment, or losing their car, or paying their bills, their high volatility digital tokens that can be exchanged for money instantly are going to be the first thing to go. 

Coixe

Buy BTC only. Hold until ripe. Sell. Your mistake was day trading and all that other nonsense.

asir100

Don’t have any cryptocurrencies. But doesn’t this literally concern you people? That ”fiat” controls the market? Why would a rate hike on fiat affect BTC? If anything, cryptocurrencies are more centralized and connected to global currencies than ever before. Just feels like the whole point of crypto no longer exists. Curious to hear your thoughts.

JuxtaposeLife

Fun with On Chain Analytics from my node... Happy to run specific date ranges (similar to below), or age-bands if anyone is interested just post a question below this comment and I'll see if I can answer them all. Here is the format that helps me to get you an answer: Age Greater Than: 4y Start: 2024-12-14 End: 2025-12-14 The above query was --older-than **4y** \--start **2024-12-14** \--end **2025-12-14** from my script. Here are the results for the last year looking at 4yr+ old coin activity relative to everything else. **======** Update from my full-node analytics... From **Dec 14, 2024 → Dec 14, 2025**, coins **≥ 4.5986 years old** (log-band cutoff; conservative) accounted for: * **1,197,476 BTC** of *cumulative on-chain spend volume* * **0.4889%** of total on-chain spend volume over the period (≈ **244,955,145 BTC** cumulative turnover) Economic footprint (realized PnL): * Total **gross realized PnL magnitude** (Σ|PnL|): **$603.8B** * From ≥4.5986y cohort: **$102.3B** → **16.9379%** of Σ|PnL| * Net realized PnL for ≥4.5986y cohort: **+$102.3B** (mostly/entirely profit in this window under this model) **Takeaway:** older coins were a *small share of spend volume* (mostly because of how much volume is very short dated) but a *meaningful share of realized gains (and all in profit)*. That supports “some older holders took profit,” but it’s not evidence of broad “OG capitulation” by volume. *Notes: “volume” here is on-chain BTC spent (turnover), not exchange trading volume and not unique coins. PnL is realized on spend using my UTXO entry-cost model.* Turnover counts repeat spends; this is not ‘% of total supply sold.

timmayX

Purely advice about our reality in that type of regression and desperation. OP was asking about how to transact BTC after a global power grid failure.

Purple_Oak

Demand for cheaper BTC held by Big Players, against majority of the Retail Traders. Big/Rich Players use Spot trades to influence small momentary price actions, while they are profiting on Leveraged Trades (Futures and other types) over those moves. As the Retail traders are squeezed in one price range, they move to the other. Now, most of those Big Players who both own the assets and also have enough cash to move the market exchange their assets in chunks while they push the uptrend, and when exhausted (or farmed enough on Futures, if enough exists in their vocabulary) they will just stop and reorder as low as they can. That results in reduced cashflow, and much lower-priced demand zone against the sell pressure of FOMO retail Buyers and Traders. Big Players determine where will majority of us buy/sell their assets, and its price range will always be cheaper than they have had to spend for the uptrend they pushed. Example: If someone bought 2 BTCs at 40k$, used those two tokens to push to the ATH of lets say 80k$, exchanging those two BTCs for a total of 120k$ - he can now buy 1.5 BTC, so he needs to lower the price to at least 60k$ to have the same power of 2 BTCs. Or to lower it back to 40k again and have the power of 3 BTCs). They just do this at the greater scale, and do it as silently as possible. Currently, In the past 18 days, since the price range last dropped: - Long Retail Futures Traders have been mostly liquidated during yet another sidechop, which means most of the Longs in this price range are out - whether out of money, or out of will to participate at the current market conditions; - Long "Smart Money" Traders are waiting to enter where the Spot and Wallet Big/Rich holders (individuals, groups, institutions, investors) keep their next demand supply - which is bellow current price range. By my calculations, their Buy Order Walls over mutlitple exchanges and various sources, are at around 74.5k ± , 60k ± , 40-45k ± , bellow that I am still not sure. And this is an estimate which can warry depending on the live conditions of the market when the price range drops near their demand zones. Anyways, most of the people above that are small holders and traders. - After both Holders and Futures traders that are currently holding 86-88-90k ranges are squeezed enough, the next cluster of Retail orders is at around 78-82k. - Short's clusters of orders and liquidations have been barely scratched at 94k. This shows the demand for yet another repositioning of the price range, and unless somebody starts selling on Spot and putting in more cash into Futures - it will go lower.

Archophob

6 years ago means 2019, before the pandemic. Maybe 3500 was the price back then and 1000 the amount invested, so she has about 0.3 BTC. Unless the platform where she bought was FTX. Then, it's gone.

theboywaaal

I have 2.002 BTC, bought a full one in August 2022 after selling my sneaker collection and the last one I bought it by making a £6000 purchase and the rest DCA

Negative_Put_5363

You have to change the wallet address when it arrives, as they come with a BTC address populated—if you don’t change the public key. You're probably mining for someone else, but it's not worth worrying about.

SevereArrivals13

Chilling and stacking more BTC, BNB and Moons whenever possible. Staking all of them except for BTC for very juicy rewards too. Everything is gonna be fine.

Hooftly

Listen. BTC and ETH have issues andthey are not perfect... but if you are going to sit there and claim Hedera is Decentralized because fdo the reasons you provided which are provavbly false there is no helping you. Im not saying Hederas Tech is bad, Im not saying it won't succeed. Im saying its permissioned and distributed which means it does not solve the trilemma. This is fact not fiction and if you asked the Hedera Devs I bet you they would tell you the same because they are not stupid.