BTC

redXXred

practically he is trading ZEC/BTC

Bettie9

I have a steady paycheck, and I set aside money in a savings account every week. If I want to go out and have fun or treat myself to a nice meal, I’ll pay for it with my salary rather than selling my BTC.

redXXred

This explanation is naive at best. There are dozens of BTC soft forks... so according to your reasoning, they should all have a market cap similar to BTC? Come on!

lophomainiac

The price of BTC on Sept 6 2036 will be $420,690,666.

thuishaven

You should research: BTC, ETH, SOL, HYPE, SKY, MORPHO, UNI, XMR, ZEC thank me later

logavulin16

\*one exception - SOL has actually currently outperformed BTC from low to low which is very interesting, its highs have underperformed however.

logavulin16

No coin has performed BTC on a 4 year time span so BTC

Project_Demosthenes_

https://preview.redd.it/16ti06fzhxnh1.jpeg?width=968&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d04dd435719af9aead6a783f04d9b44eb7f72cd Wish BTC hadn’t lost its cypherpunk culture.

WeCanTripleIt

Fidelity holds all my actual BTC.

MungerCH

BTC and Solana

palmdata

3.125 BTC is the number miners actually budget around. At ~$79.6k that's about $249k of subsidy per block before fees, split across roughly 934 EH/s; power, uptime and capex decide who keeps that revenue. The headline skips the hashprice side of it.

theabominablewonder

I go 70% BTC 20% ETH and then a bit into random stuff which I won’t mention because it would come across as shilling my bags.

zeeshiscanning

I actually ended up building my own tracker/automation around a Dynamic DCA strategy because I wanted something more systematic than simply following a fixed DCA multiplier. The basic idea is similar to what you described: I never completely stop buying, but the amount I allocate changes depending on where BTC is in the cycle. When price is relatively high, I keep the regular DCA smaller and preserve capital. As BTC gets cheaper relative to the long-term indicators, the allocation progressively increases. I also use a laddering approach rather than having one huge “buy the dip” trigger. The available capital is divided across multiple levels, so as BTC moves progressively lower, progressively larger amounts are deployed. I'm not trying to guess the exact bottom. If BTC only corrects a little, the strategy deploys a little more; if the correction becomes much deeper, larger portions of the reserve are deployed. I built the system around Google Sheets + Apps Script automation. The sheet calculates the current DCA allocation based on the predefined conditions, while the script handles the alerts and record keeping. I also have an email trigger set up, so I don't have to constantly open the tracker and check what the strategy is saying. On the scheduled trigger, it pulls the current BTC price and the calculated DCA amount and sends me an email with the current signal/amount to deploy. So the workflow is basically: BTC price/data → strategy calculations → DCA ladder → recommended amount → email alert. That was important to me because I don't want to be sitting there watching BTC every day and deciding emotionally whether a move is “low enough” to buy more. The system tells me what the rules say and I can simply follow them. I also use the 200-week SMA and 200-week EMA as part of the bear-market logic. When the weekly close moves below those long-term averages, additional reserve capital can be deployed. I deliberately use the weekly close rather than reacting to intraday wicks, so a temporary crash doesn't unnecessarily trigger the deeper levels. I also have a separate rule for the other side of the cycle: if we're in a bull market and BTC gets unusually close to the 200-week SMA, I can deploy an additional lump sum on top of the normal DCA. So there are predefined rules for both major corrections during a bull market and deeper bear-market conditions. The tracker records the actual amount invested, BTC/sats acquired, effective BTC price after fees, cumulative BTC, etc., so I can compare the result against simply buying the same amount every period. For me, the biggest benefit is removing the emotional decision-making. The indicators determine the market condition, the ladder determines how much capital gets deployed, and the automation calculates the amount and sends me the email trigger. That's what eventually led me to build the whole thing rather than just following a simple DCA multiplier.

Temporary-Cause730

It's an interesting question, because in my view "revenue" is a narrative that is here to stay, but it is a weak moat for any specific coin. It makes the coins go up when revenue is growing, but what happens if revenues fall? What happens if a better competitor comes along and starts generating more revenue? So these are not positions that are "buy and forget", in my view. You have to monitor them and be ready to sell if the situation changes, and buy the new coin that is generating more revenue. If you want only positions that you can buy and hold for the next few years, then I would be way more selective, and would only hold BTC and ZEC, maybe ETH and SOL.

Interesting-Store-15

Blue chip - BTC and ETH that’s not a question Growth - Solana, ZCash, Virtuals

skyfox_uk

For what is worth, dumped by BTCB2 there for BTC and had no problems with deposits and withdrawals. Would not trust with large funds, but B2 coins is almost worthless, so was happy to take the risk for few sats.

KateR_H0l1day

I do a similar thing with every coin, I end up deciding if it’s worth investing in, have 3 types of rankings, dependent upon risk/reward, plus likelihood of success to its ATH. Once started, the entry price becomes my yardstick, 95% of the time, only buy when it’s actually red. How much it’s down from the entry price, dictates how much I’m buying. Some times coins change ranking positions, up or down, which dictates a new yardstick price. Similar format works with my Crypto ETF’s. For both Coins & Crypto ETF’s, very little has been sold, but some I’ve completely come out of. Last three years, been slowly selling TradFi and increasing Crypto ETF’s, selling more TradFi, such as S&P500 as it got higher. BTC in the green, but things like MSTR, still in the red a little. But, lately added ASST, which is green. My overall portfolio is definitely red, but also portfolio is so much bigger than a year ago, as I’ve been adding red more. I’m happy for the red, only because I wasn’t buying to sell in 2026. This has been going on for over 5 years, but buying BTC-ETF was when it first became available, all other Crypto ETF’s came later, ASST only been in the portfolio a couple of months. MSTR is the biggest $value, BTC (ARKB) is well up there, but during this downturn, MSTR attracted more buying, this will revert I’m sure!

ScoobyD00BIEdoo

Treat all but BTC as a scratch off

Long_Friendship_2904

The russian minister is mistaken and cynical the true reason America wants BTC and developed BTC is simply because it can replace gilts / bonds. You need and asset that every business cycle outpaces debasement to avoid perpetual debt. Initially the slow rise in public debt was fine. Now people will start to realise it's not working.

TheresNoSecondBest

Please, don't compare a 100% premined and centralized shitcoin like r/ripplescam to Bitcoin. It is the absolute opposite of BTC. Also, learn what r/thelightningnetwork is and how is capable of handling millions of transactions per second while keeping the fees under a penny.

Maik_trvpping

BTC, ETH and ICP. The is trash imo

Creation_Zero

Nur BTC. Hat sich immer wieder bewiesen.

vujy

Why not make a new currency that is quantum secure in its architecture, then offer any BTC holder a method to exchange it by a certain deadline? Socially agree to abandon BTC thereafter, but it’s not directly taking over anyone’s coins. And satoshis would presumably never be exchanged. We could call them Atoshis or something.

DisguisedRector

I watched that video few times already, it's sitting in my saved list for months now The 8 year cycle thing he talks about is interesting but what gets me is how people still think crypto is just magic internet money when institutions are literally building whole systems on it now What I remember most is when he said something about the current cycle being different because of all the ETF approvals and government adoption, that part made me actually think this time might not follow the exact same pattern as before I don't know if any single coin will do what BTC did but the whole space is changing so fast that ignoring it feels like same mistake people made in 2013

Interesting-Egg-2539

BTC for the win :=)

Sensitive-Crew-6025

Mit with 3 BTC 😄

stonktradersensei

I don't get involved in people's finances and their choices. It's their journey with whatever risk tolerance they choose, it is not my place to tell them what to do. From her perspective, I feel like even if you do convince her to get some BTC, and suddenly we start pulling back for a while, she's just gonna hate you for it? Like she was right she should've just stuck with HYS. You don't wanna be involved in all that. You've made your recommendation, she don't like it, so it's ok to move on from the subject

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CyberCrud

5-7 years is too long.  Buy and hold BTC until summer of 2029.  

s1nth3tic

Ok so no YouTube but where did you learn this? And don't just say trying because from what you said so far it's not super clear how it works. Perhaps you have a book you could recommend? I'm extremely curious on how 'funding farming' works and 'short sold ETH and BTC collaterized in kind' bit. As I understand you can't do this on exchanges? Would love to learn more if you could direct me.

I_often_bump_my_head

BTC/ETH & then Genesis L1 for a moonshot

stoicparallax

Ok so I get the idea of holding the fiat debt being beneficial if btc rips.. but walk me through the hypothetical of your scenario please: BTC at 90k, you post 1 btc and take out a loan for 30k. Over 6 months, price dips to 60 (bringing your LTV to 50%, still safe) and then price bounces up to 80k so LTV drops into safer territory. All the while, you’re paying \~10% interest on your loan. You have 30k to spend, but why was this more beneficial than a regular bank loan thus far. Is the primary benefit the fiat devaluation on a long term basis?

Mak333

I would actually buy BTC perpetual contracts at 2X to 10X leverage. Perhaps aim for a liquidation price around $30k BTC. If you don't have that rist tolerance, buy spot BTC.

ArugulaPotential366

Okay hypothetically it's been a long time, something that you like is going to be released. Do you sell the amount of Bitcoin to pay for that or is your plan simply using BTC for needs only?

JamesScotlandBruce

If you're treating it like a long term retirement savings scheme. Then guess you use it as a long term savings scheme. Just because it's BTC then it doesn't mean it's any different. You've plenty of time to dip in and out if that's what you want to do. Perhaps set a limit. But these no rules.

icantgiveyou

I don’t think Satoshi put age limit on BTC.

RobodOfficial

$10k lump vs $10k DCA is mostly time-in vs regret-management. If you can sleep after one buy, lump has historically won more often on BTC than waiting in cash. If a 30–40% drawdown would make you sell, split $10k over 8–12 weeks so the process matches your stomach, not a slogan. Same $10k, same pair, two schedules on weekly closes: [https://robod.com/trading-calculators/historical-buy](https://robod.com/trading-calculators/historical-buy) [https://robod.com/trading-calculators/historical-buy-dca](https://robod.com/trading-calculators/historical-buy-dca) That’s history, not “today’s call.”

ScopulyX

A non-KYC wallet is different from a non-KYC way to buy BTC. You can use a self-custodial wallet without an exchange controlling it, but buying BTC still depends on the service and its age requirements.

mierwendy

BTC probably gets the first wave. I’d also watch the infrastructure supporting institutional flows, especially the workflows connecting different rails and systems.

JameelaJameel

My dad bought BTC at 96k (i told him NOT to). Its at 80k He still shares these kinda posts with me. Lols

MMButt

I’m not this person but I plan to use it in addition to my taxable brokerage to facilitate early retirement. My DCA is probably a fair bit higher than most people and I’m not planning to cut it back for a few years. I continue the same amount to my taxable brokerage monthly. There’s gonna come a time 20 years from now when my taxable brokerage + BTC can gap me to being able to take money from my tax deferred accounts at 59 1/2 years. That’s when I’m going to start thinking about selling lump sums. If BTC hits $500k-$700k between now and then it’ll be a different situation. Or maybe I’ll get to a BTC number I’m happy with and allocate that money somewhere else after that. We’ll see.

Low_Explorer_2097

No. He would not. BTC today is becoming everything he wanted to fight against.

H3lw3rd

Anyone who says anything Else then BTC hasnt been in crypto long enough.

quintavious_danilo

Yes, do BTC only. You’ll thank yourself

quintavious_danilo

It’s a long term investment for me. I used to be in stocks but not anymore. I‘m now 100% BTC and tend to grow my stack with dynamic DCA depending on the where we approximately are in a cycle.

knarsn

XMR 100% ist the only coin thats ecisted since early crypto and completly decoupled from BTC. Insane resiliance even after all the delistings.

piggleii

Guys, think about it. Winklevoss was shilling BTC and ETH when they were dirt cheap. Now they're shilling ZEC. Make of that what you will. NFA

Turbulent-Land-5664

My meaning was just a person who buys some BTC for the first time and enters the space.

hodler1992

BTC is on a bullrun since 2009. There may be red days but overall it's only going in one direction. Just buy know and you'll be good

Bogdanoff_dump_it

Why do you have so few BTC and SOL compared to ETH and XRP? Other than that, I think this portfolio will do okay (assuming you take profits on time).

Interesting-Egg-2539

Agree, BTC sounds like best option so far.

hodler1992

Sell all XRP and put all in BTC.

M4K1M4

BTC only.

theabominablewonder

XRP is a shitcoin you should just put that in BTC

hodler1992

No. I will hold BTC for at least 10 years not touching a single Sat

Routine-Can-1678

You can do MSTR to outperform, as long as the CEBE is low enough. The simple fact that they have nearly 50% debt means market cap is way lower than the Bitcoin holdings. When BTC is way higher, the debt ratio goes down, so you get the benefit of operational leverage. Also, we are at a pullback stage now: +162k jobs with +55k revisions and nowcasting models of VERY HOT inflation of 0.35% MoM headline inflation / 0.27% MoM PCE Core inflation + hawkish Warsh = no room for the doves to pause We will deanchor inflation expectations if we leave things be. The Taylor Rule suggests that we are in somewhat accommodative rates in after-inflation terms

Ok-Basil4240

So right now you’re moving BTC to sol?

BigX070

BTC is my savings account. I don't look at the price, only buy what I can miss, keep it on a cold storage and I've only sold when unemployed and hungry

Deadly-Se7en

BTC. Hype.

quietbyday

That's a valid question, but the answer is more complex, because there can be several reasons and I'm not an expert on the details. 1) Taking some Bitcoin they had bought previously bought high and selling it at a loss can make sense, because they basically get free money due to the tax loss harvesting (in the form of a reduction in the corporate tax they would normally have to pay). Think of it as getting bonus money when you sell one widget, that you can then use to turn around and buy another widget a a reduced price. 2) It would also make sense when the mNAV is below 1 (i.e. the market cap of the company is less than than the market value of the BTC they hold), because then the situation is reversed and the Bitcoin is amplified vs. shares, so it makes sense to sell BTC and buy back their shares. In that situaiton, doing so increases the number of BTC per share. This situation hasn't occurred yet, but it's a useful tool, for example if ever short sellers tried to drive the stock price far down during a bear market. 3) Third is a much more complex reason: they can sell BTC just to prove that they can do it without substantially moving the market. The reason they would do this is to convince third parties (credit rating agencies, index committees, potential insitutional purchasers of STRC, etc.) that they can easily sell BTC to raise liquidity whenever needed, to show that their is no risk that they won't be able to pay the dividends indefinitely into the future. This makes STRC and their other preferred stock much more attractive to conservative income investors and therefore strengthens their ablity to raise much more capital through STRC and buy more Bitcoin over the long term. Think of it as an investment in marketing - short-term expense for long-term gain. In fact, when combined with Reason 1 above, it's not even an expense, it's actually an accretive transaction that has this added benefit. From what I gather form the earnings calls and communications, reasons 1 and 3 both apply to their BTC sales this year. Reason 2 is more like a fallback, break-glass-in-case-of-emergency strategy. There might be other reasons that I'm not aware of. The bottom line, though, is that they've only sold a tiny fraction of their BTC, they've been net accumulators, and I don't think they will do much of it moving forward, esp. not if we're actually starting a longer bull market (fingers crossed).

micave

BTC only

FlyKnown4829

If the time horizon is genuinely 5–7 years, I'd keep it boring and buy Bitcoin. Most altcoins are effectively bets that a particular project will still be relevant several market cycles from now. That's much harder to predict than people admit. Look at the top 20 cryptocurrencies from 2017 or 2021 and see how many you'd actually want to have bought and forgotten about. Bitcoin has the longest track record, fixed supply, the strongest network effect, deep liquidity and increasingly established institutional infrastructure. It can obviously still fall 50–70% along the way, so I wouldn't put money into it that I'd need on a particular date. For me, crypto is one of those areas where trying to find the next 50x often creates a worse long-term portfolio. If I wanted something I could buy today and still be comfortable holding in 2032, BTC would be the easy choice.

TheresNoSecondBest

>use stable coins and put the dent on stable coins then depeg them to make crypto go to 0 Let's entertain this scenario. The US government creates/uses stable shitcoins. To buy one bitcoin, anyone has to pay 80k of this shitcoin. Now the stables depeg - I means one today's USD stable purchasing power = 1,000 USD stable next week, for example. In that case, **to buy the same bitcoin, you will need 80 million of that stable**. Worthless USD will make the number of bitcoin only going up, not zero. The purchase power of BTC wouldn't even have to move at all. >and wipe off their debt, resulting in biggest robbery Yes, if the purchasing of the USD goes down, it'll be easier to pay their debt. Yes, this scenario will **steal money from anyone, holding the USD** or USD stable shitcoin. **The conspiracy theory is saying buy bitcoin while you can and protect yourself from the robbery**.

CorfranGoch

It's part of my retirement plan. When I need it, I'll draw what I need and the rest stays in BTC.

Wonderful_Cold_3017

https://preview.redd.it/pywzpqsjlunh1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc9b6fa6d43c62ea33be0293216adf5153c1bb01 Just buy BTC, ETH, HYPE and SOL and forget

MakCapital

The answer is still BTC, but if Hyperliquid continues to eat on-chain trade with a near 100% burn on trading fees (Plus additional services) you have no where to go but up. Platforms, exchanges, and wallets have only just begun adding it. Many not just adding support, but deploying their own markets. It's very possible one day a sizeable percent of exchanges, wallets, and you name it are leveraging. Revenue would then far exceed any CEX, and all that revenue moves back into HYPE. Price can just keep moving up without market cap going up. We really have nothing else that's coded to move all value generated from high demand decentralized services into a single asset that acts as ownership over all future revenue. At least not to this degree and not with similar asset alignment. Closest things are governance tokens, but they don't actually have true authority and public ownership over the product. They act more like unregulated promises over a cut of future profits.

No-Conflict-6578

Well it may not be something you use right now, today. But for some people crypto offers a way to exchange money without the need for intermediaries like central banks, govt’s, etc.. if I want to send someone in another country a million dollars, to do it without crypto I would have to involve maybe 6 or 7 different banks and 2 governments. With BTC or any crypto for that matter but really using BTC, I can just send it to a person wherever they are in the world and that person can then exchange it for their fiat dollars and boom. So in everyday life maybe you don’t use it right now. But you will see soon in the future it will be utilized more and more.

youngmind12

you can continue investing in the big once like BTC ETH and also check out tokens like SOL LIT and more but make sure is what you can afford to loss man

RayolCanadel

Starting out I would recommend you have at least 60-70%. Some good candidates this bullrun seem to be HYPE, ZEC, PUMP, etc. you will hear them shilled a lot. Honestly would only put 10% in an individual alt and if it runs, sell only portions instead of all and either hold in cash or reinvest into BTC

Patriot_tech

$50–$100 a month is enough to practice. It is not enough to turn into “send money to Mom” on any honest timeline. Treat the monthly number as a contribution, not an income plan. Start with $50. Keep $100 as a stretch month only after rent, food, and a small cash buffer are already handled. If a 50% drop in what you put in would change how you eat or help your mom next month, the size is too big. Do not buy that whole coin list. Most of those names are the same bet with worse liquidity. On a $50 ticket, spreads and fees on thinner coins can eat a real chunk of the purchase before the trade even starts. Bitcoin is the only one on that list that has deep books, tight spreads, and a long enough history that a monthly buy is not just lottery tickets. Ethereum is the only reasonable second sleeve. Hyperliquid as a $7 test is fine. Leave BNB, XRP, Tron, Zcash, Rain, Monero, and the rest alone until the stack is big enough that a 2% spread does not matter. A simple split that actually survives a drawdown: • 80% of each month into Bitcoin • 20% into one satellite at most, or skip the satellite and stay 100% BTC • Same day each month. Do not “wait for a dip.” That is how people buy the green candles and freeze on the red ones. Your $40 / $7 test is the right instinct. Run it long enough to feel a full down-leg. Bitcoin can lose a third to a half and still be “normal.” Alts can lose 70–80% and take years to matter again. In a risk-off week they usually fall together, so owning eight coins does not protect you. Keep this on spot only. No leverage, no perps, no “earn” products you do not fully understand. The Crypto app is fine for learning size. It is a poor place to park money you cannot replace. If this ever grows past a few hundred dollars, move it to a venue you control and write down the recovery phrases offline. The Mom goal is the part to protect. Crypto should be the last sleeve, after a cash stash you can actually send her. A $75 monthly buy that compounds for a decade can become something. A $75 monthly buy you raid every time the chart goes red becomes a fee machine. If you want the math in front of you before you lock the number, the free DCA planner and position-size tools on denntech.io will show what $50 vs $100 does across a few years and how large a drop you are signing up for. No account. Use them as a range, not a promise. Watching how liquid names actually move — ranges, volume, why a spike happened — is a useful habit too; they run a free watch-only stock scanner stream on the same site. Different market, same lesson: price path first, story second. Buy Bitcoin on a schedule. Ignore the rest of the menu. Measure success by whether you can keep the habit when it looks ugly, not by whether this month funds a wire home.

HighlightDowntown966

It's easy. You buy it and ignore the dollar value. For example: "I am now an owner of 0.5 BTC"

Shaguar_Driver

Crypto is dead. And I don't care if BTC goes to $160k in 2029. I can make better returns on stock market. The returns aren't there and as soon as everyone else realises that it will collapse

Worldly-Ad-1274

I use BTC like saving account and I buy MSTR and ASST for making some extra money 🤑

read_more_comments

Yeah. Why does the US messing around with their own currency make BTC go to zero.

Gold_Panic_7528

I would contact the top lenders who take BTC as capital and tell them to loan me money I never have to pay back or I would expose myself and crash the price. Anyone with enough skin the game is going to pay me off.

richardto4321

Nah I'd encourage OP to do it so that one day, BTC will be even more scarce and the rest of our stacks will be worth more.

call_me_soup69

Personally I buy Bitcoin and Monero (XMR). You could add Etherium. Stay away from everything else. Also XMR is a risky bet. If you're worried just invest in BTC. Also - BTC could easily still drop to $50k or lower. Don't buy if you won't have the conviction to hold for several years.

Revolutionary-Cup78

An amount you are comfortable using, or the amount you intend to use. I recommend to avoid coins that aren't dominant in their category (If you are unsure about types of coins out there, get some BTC and leave it at that) Unless you are an insider on a rug pull, crypto is no longer a place where you can become rich quickly. It is another asset

Berriosa20

Who the fuck buys BTC on cash app lmao

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Why Bitcoin only? You realize BTC mining will fall apart after a few more halvings? You simply can't expect or anticipate if miners will continue to secure Bitcoin at a loss. Many miners have started to pivot to AI because it is more profitable. This blind conviction in Bitcoin makes little sense to me.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Since when has use case mattered? Reference BTC, Pokemon cards, etc. It's all about mindshare, meme, hype, price movement, scarcity, etc. Don't forget the recent claimed 51% attacks on Monero.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Is Monero backed by Israel? BTC has no privacy and look how much it is worth.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Why is BTC at $80k and ZEC at $1k with the same finite supply cap? ZEC has superior privacy features. Is a 80 x BTC premium justified? Even at a 10x premium ZEC would be worth $8k. I know BTC was the first chain. It's premium over other chains is just ridiculous. Shows you how important mindshare is. Bitcoin is mentioned on most news stations. That's free marketing that the other chains have not received.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Agreed. ZEC has the same finite cap as BTC. Yet Bitcoin is trading at a 80x premium over ZEC. Plus it has Israeli connections. I would not discount that and am surprised it's only now started to wake up after its dismal performance since 2017. I am terrible at price prediction though so ignore my points - lol! I am still holding ZEC from my mining days in 2018. Sold 1 ZEC a few months ago for $750. The rest I'll hold for longer to see if this goes anywhere. I just think the BTC premium over ZEC is way too high.

whatnow2019

I remember the days when I had to argue with my banks to purchase Bitcoin. In the end, I had to threaten to move my accounts to another bank. The last time I purchased straight BTC was the wee hours dump at the beginning of COVID. It was terrifying and exhilarating!

Zealousideal_Rain_79

At this point, just buy a BTC ETF!

HumbleLearner69

Anyone interested in, my friend launched a startup that you can trace/track your BTC, ETH and XRP in case you got scammed. Provides a comprehensive report and for I guess for $10 bucks A report that you can take to the authorities and try to recover or find the scammers. Let me know and I will send you his email and you can reach out to him directly. Sorry about that bruh

Flaky-Rip-1333

Sorry to hear. But before BTC hits 85k we pbb will testing 75 again, and if it breaks, 68.

Flight_Early

If one believes in alternative finance, such as BTC, then why not? There are people that think the coin will be worth $1m. So, who cares if you buy at 80k or 60k….

ProtectionCareful103

Dodn't know you could put ZEC and BTC in the same wallet. Thanks AI.

Legitimate-Ad-5785

What I’ve heard is that even if mining companies take AI contracts, BTC mining is always going to be part of the equation. Although AI is more profitable, it’s not always available: when you have unused or off peak compute or power capacity, BTC mining helps pad your bottom line

Electronic_Quote399

Yup. Especially BTC, it's the most traceable one of all. Thats why I was/am convinced that with that Nancy Guthrie thing, that the ransom notes demanding btc were all fake, or really stupid people taking a longshot. I think it was a distraction from the real kidnapper, to buy time and get away, not expecting a payment. Some platforms may let you trade some crypto without kyc, even if you figure that out and receive bitcoin for, say a ransom, and they don't know your identity, but they do have your wallet address, they can flag it, as soon as you try to move or spend that BTC, the feds will know exactly where it went. And they'll come and get you, even if its 10 or 20 years since the ransom was paid. That btc will always be hot, and your whole wallet, too. Only way you can get it clean is to take it to Russia or some non extradition country, and know a guy who can do it. If you just went to Russia and started asking for someone to wash your BTC, someone would take you up on it, but probably rob you.

gioacostax

BTC, ETH, SOL y LINK. El resto es basura, estos al menos son infraestructura y tienen apoyo politico, lo que lo deja bien parado a nivel especulativo.

tmmroy

Accumulate on-chain BTC via credit card rewards, trade etf BTC in my IRA by cycle timing. I don't expect to sell my on-chain BTC until the dollar is internationally recognized as no longer being a primary reserve asset.

BlazingPalm

Currently, these suck and charge wild fees. I would love to start my own BTC atm empire with like 3-4% fees. Non-KYC. Not for everyone, but it may pick up… More rare are BTC atms that allow you to sell for fiat cash. I would find that much more useful if I were the type to use these things (which I’m not). May be hard to keep it safely cash-stocked tho- one whale withdrawal and it’s tapped out.

Objective-Walk6780

50% BTC, 25% ETH, 25% Shitcoins. Always worked well for me

quietbyday

The mechanics of Strategy buying BTC are different. They should be buying high. The thing they are buying Bitcoin with (MSTR shares) goes up in dollar price when BTC goes up in dollar price. Not only only that, it goes up at an amplified rate on average. So, if Bitcoin is 5% higher today than last week, the money they can get by selling shares might have gone up 7% or so. So, he is actually getting Bitcoin at a discount when it goes up. As a rough proxy, look at IBIT - up 2.4% over the last 5 trading days, will MSTR is up over 11% over the same time. Would you rather buy a widget worth $100 for $100 or a widget priced at $102.4 with $111? In the first get case, you get 1 widget, while in the second you get 1.08 widgets. In other words, 8% more. It's counterintuituve for a regular retail buyer, but it's actually a worse deal for Strategy to buy when BTC is low, because of the very unique asset they are buying it with and how it grows at an amplified rate relative to the thing they're buying.

flarept1

I just noticed, 17th of August was the day BTC started the god candle move. Lmao Preserve the daily as a reminder

Charming-Designer944

All BTC its risky enough. Assuming its money I.dont neee until 2029. If the time frame is short then crypto is not the right rool. We are not out of the crypto winter yet and there may well be another drop in the range of 30-50%.

6M66

At that time most of us were watching TV probably while this guy was buying BTC.