BTC

Yoloballsdeep

Michael Saylor, the biggest BTC bull, has been DCAing into bitcoin for the past 5 years. He is under water on his BTC and would have done better if he bought treasuries.

Admirable_Edge_1956

Man, that ETH/BTC 4h slide is brutal to watch. To stop myself from panic-checking TradingView every 10 minutes and ruined my day, I coded a simple script that acts as a Telegram bot. It monitors key oversold RSI levels and Bollinger Bands anomalies across multiple timeframes and pings my phone when a potential reversal or bounce is actually forming. Takes the emotion out of it. If you or anyone here is tired of chart fatigue and wants to test it, let me know. Happy to share the link for feedback

Think-Sector-6329

been monitoring SOL thru blueblocx, and there's real activity begind it. I wouldn't assume $83 is a guaranteed floor. If BTC keeps dragging the market down, SOL can definitely go lower too. Long term, just watch flows and wallet activity before adding more

liftcookrepeat

I'm leaning range for now. Falling OI with stable price feels more like leverage getting flushed than fresh conviction coming in. I'd want to see stronger stablecoin inflows and ETH/BTC improve before calling it real expansion. Right now it still feels fragile underneath.

Leonardns

I had bought BTC and TAO I préfère focus on only few coin.

LiquidityCompass

Hardest part for me? Ignorance gave me confidence. I thought I knew a lot and that trading alts against BTC was easy money. The market proved me wrong. Twice.

FigmaWallSt

Stupid question. BTC could be @1M in 2034 and drop to 100k again in 2035. No one knows where BTC will be in almost 10 years just like no one knew BTC will be above 100k once. A lot of people hoped it will be extremely valuable in the future, but no one knew for sure especially before the mass adaptation and ETF inflows. BTC won’t grow as much per year like the previous years. You can already see it and even from peak of the bull run to the peak of the latest bull run the growth shrinks

bootmeng

I'm all about Bitcoin backed lending but I haven't quite figured out the strategy yet. Rates like 11.49% for loans less than $250k doesn't seem so competitive. I can get a better offer at Sofi and they don't hold my BTC.

NeutralSpacerx

[](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s31qag/for_people_using_self_custody_how_do_you_actually/)to skip the exchange step, no-signup swaps convert between coins from your own wallet, but for actually spending, gift cards and BTC-accepting merchants are the self-custody-friendly route. depends if you mean spending or cashing out.

tenor_tymir

You should really get to 1 BTC.

user_name_checks_out

> You’re like an annoying YouTuber that bought a ‘$300.000’ car and then shows a beat-up Mercedes that they paid $5.000 for. That is not a good analogy. A better analogy would be that they bought a car for $5K, its value increased to $300K, and now they talk about having paid $300K for a car. They paid $5K, not $300K - just as OP paid 0.38 BTC, not $30K.

WhaleWilliam

BTC to 1 million. Crazy to see anything that started from cents to dollars and 10x over and over such a long period of time is something that probably naturally a lifetime to produce naturally. Shows how bad the world's problem with currency is

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

Trying to time the “sell now buy back lower” move is where a lot of people get wrecked honestly. I’ve done it before and watched the coin randomly pump right after I sold because BTC sneezed green for a day. If you still believe in NEAR long term and you’re only 10 cents off your average, I’d probably think more about whether you actually need the cash or just want the feeling of making an active move. Sometimes holding is less stressful than trying to outplay every swing.

Debra_Tina

4M BTC conviction wallet number is the real signal here

Syrion1984

True, just using the current BTC price to calculate. Still my most expensive event ever!

Leithm

I don't think there is one, but yeh I should have picked a better time range. [Source](https://www.binance.com/en-GB/trade/ZEC_BTC?ref=40896146&type=spot)

hypersignals

The collision is real but the framing of "hard money vs yields" misses that BTC has effectively become a duration trade now. Spot ETF flows correlate more with long-duration tech than with gold over the last 18 months. So 5% Treasuries hurt BTC the same way they hurt unprofitable growth names, not because the hard-money story broke. Worth tracking the BTC-to-NDX 60-day correlation rather than BTC-to-gold if you want the read that actually matters for positioning

_R0Ns_

It's easier to pay in USD, that's without a trace, BTC is the worst use when paying for any crime.

GoElastic

BTC ded

lmcampos

If your target was 1 BTC you are half way. Keep going. Now what will this convert into if had to suddenly spend it? That's the question you should be asking. Or when will it be needed. Money in itself is just like the Midas king story.

PuzzleheadedHuman

I work on data at Coinpaprika, so take this with that bias in mind. A few concrete things from running the data side of this workload for stat-arb teams: 1. Quote currency. Run two parallel universes, USD-implied and USDT, and reconcile them. USDT depeg events are rare but they show up as cointegration breaks in the residual when you only carry one quote. Cheap to compute, expensive to discover later. 2. Venue anchoring. For cointegration on top-20 BTC-beta names, single-venue is fine; for the 20-150 cohort the per-venue funding series diverges enough that the funding line item flips sign between venues during squeeze windows. Either tag each pair with the venue you would actually execute on and use that venue's funding history, or run venue-blind on spot and price the funding leg separately. 3. History depth. Pre-2020 OHLCV on alt-L1/L2 names is where most universes silently truncate. If your half-life filter throws out anything with less than \~3x the half-life of history, the survivorship bias on the eligible set ends up biased toward the venues that survived, not the trades that worked. 4. On Q5 publication, the equity precedent does not transfer cleanly because cohort heterogeneity is much wider in crypto. Two cohorts (top-20 perp-executable, 20-150 multi-venue) with separate eligibility filters is more honest than one ranked list.

Epictricker2025

Exactly, In fact the BTC.D chart strongly suggests that Bitcoin is going to outperform alts for at least another few months, until BTC.D puts in a new high, as described in detail [here](https://medium.com/coinmonks/is-altseason-coming-soon-65525386b752).

Zealousideal-One-640

I don’t think 0.5 BTC would be enough to retire or change most people’s lives. Thats about $35k USD. We have a blow off time bull run every 4 years when BTC can 2x or 3x but that 2x/3x gets more difficult the higher its market cap goes. Assuming we got two more bull runs by 2035 and each bull run does a generous 3x, thats around $300k. Assuming you never make another dollar, no social security, no pension, maybe you’d have an okay retirement but hard to imagine it’d be a luxurious retirement with traveling and buying a dream home. The time to get rich off BTC has long passed. You have to be almost rich already to invest $75,000 for 1 whole coin and even then, bitcoin isnt going to grow rapidly like it did previous years. The market cap is so high, almost $2 trillion, it’s not easy for a number that high to continue doubling. It still can but it won’t be doubling as quick as it has to in previous bull runs.

oopssomething

ETH/BTC 4h chart is just a long slide down

andy2002_

The fact that people casually talk about owning 0.5 BTC is already wild to me.

Simeonsub

I’ve had a smooth experience selling Bitcoin on Zoomex. The process is simple, fast, and easy to understand even for beginners. Transactions are processed quickly, and the platform interface makes selling BTC stress free. A good option for anyone looking for a reliable crypto exchange.

BriBumer

I do not sell anything. If you are not excited about my choice. Make a better constellation. Like 75% BTC 25% Eth Or 50% BTC 25% ETH 25% Different alts. and so on.... BTC and ETH got more reasons to be in the portfolio than some users got braincells... Hyperliquid is used by the smart people. The reason is easy to explain. **Own Orderbook** **Own Orderbook VS Market Maker. Every good trader will prefer the orderbook over the market maker.... Either you trade directly or a third party try to make some better trade conditions for itself.** It doesnt matter for low budget trader. But for the big ones one trade could made a difference which coul be your year salary (hope for you its around 100k) and much more....

SomewhereBusiness503

Your allocation is not crazy, but it’s very concentrated toward SOL and a couple smaller narratives (Render, Celestia). That’s fine if you’re intentionally betting on them, but most long term portfolios end up struggling more with allocation drift than with coin selection itself. The hard part over 5 years isn’t setting the split, it’s sticking to it when one coin runs 5x and another drops 70%. People usually either overconcentrate without noticing or keep tweaking based on emotion. If you want a cleaner approach, keep BTC/ETH as the core and treat the rest as satellite bets with a fixed cap so they don’t silently take over the portfolio. Also, since you’re adding monthly, it helps to have a way to automatically maintain those target weights instead of manually rebalancing each time. A lot of long term investors use rebalancing tools for exactly that, so the portfolio stays aligned to the original plan without constant intervention.

Super_Cloud_5573

I did the latter as well! I don't really share my opinion much on BTC though. When I do it's it's pretty much the same sentiment. Investing is gambling just like any other form of gambling, but one of the few where it can be done successfully for reasons other than pure luck. I invest in a lot of things and I base them on all info available to me and my appetite in said contemporary Setting. If someone wants to do the same then they simply need to educate themselves on what they are buying into and how to do it in a way that doesn't cause regret if it doesn't work out. IE don't invest more than you're completely willing to lose in its entirety. If they can't do that, don't buy in. I simply see BTC as a good investment. I can't say I'm I'm overly convicted in some deep belief of it, I just believe it to be a worthwhile investment as well as a valuable utility for exchanging currency/value very quickly at very low cost. Ive done both for a long time so it's comfortable for me. But for someone who has no use for it as a utility or no real interest in investing in it, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to explain my thoughts to them (unless they ask and simply want to hear).

cryptotouchline

Depends on your own risk appetite honestly. Going all in on one coin feels a bit too “go big or go home” for me personally. I prefer building a more balanced portfolio instead. For example: * VOO / S&P500 for long-term stability * NVIDIA because I believe AI still has huge growth * Some bonds for balance * Then only smaller higher-risk exposure like BTC and ETH And my diversification isn’t just within crypto/altcoins either. I think diversifying across different asset classes matters too instead of having your entire future dependent on one sector or one coin.

Emotional-Eye1878

depends on your definition of "life changing" if BTC hits $300–500K by 2035, 0.5 BTC puts you at $150–250K. Meaningful money, but not retire-forever money for most people

cryptotouchline

Feels like a lot of people are still mentally trading the 2021 cycle tbh. Back then money flowed down the risk curve much harder because the market was way more retail-driven. Now a huge chunk of institutional money just gets absorbed into BTC ETFs directly instead of spilling everywhere into alts. And yeah, the ETH/BTC ratio still looks pretty weak honestly. Hard to scream “altseason” when ETH itself still can’t really outperform BTC consistently.

ResidentResearcher94

I bought MANA and a few other coins early days and sold. Only BTC now. But I got an email about still having MANA coins... I clicked the link, and they drained money from a digital wallet I had. I bet that was an inside job, stupid alts. Only about $40 fiat was in there, but such a fail. Just don't click links in emails or sms. 😫

xxALLARKxx

Good question OP. We have a marktplace platform for people to buy and sell things for BTC. Adoption IS there but nowhere near mainstream. There is a lot more demand for mainstream card-checkout BUT....mainstream card-checkout comes with fraud that is ZERO with Bitcoin. 👍

NiagaraBTC

So apparently the largest lightning transaction ever sent was 11BTC. There's no technical limit. If you and each put in 50BTC to a channel then you can send me those 50 and I can send all 100 back. Whoever receives the transaction needs to have that much liquidity space in their channel. Most lightning transactions are well under 0.01 btc though. Many are only 1 sat!

Top_Bluejay_9483

Im a narrstive hopper but I leave 20% unrealized gains as a runner with a trigger sell at 20% above average cost to cover fees and slippage. Rotation within the narrative. Example: Tao - hold sell at 60% unrealized. 60% ladder back into tao - 30% - Render/ath/icp/virtuals. 10% dry powder. When i close the trade the 20% runne5 left in tao position lets me realize periodically if there is a pump. That runner remains active in the AI narrative while I set up the next major narrative. So if 20% was $1000. I wont add captipl to a trade once it's closed. Just recycle that remaining 20%. Repeat the next major narrative. While slowing expanding the $1000. Lets say my thesis is "digital gold is heating up. Ill ladder deploy into BTC. Once it runs in might rotate into STX, deposit into a vault, borrow against the positon, leverage the borrow at 3x. Move the stop to BE.. when i close the trade 20% of that is now in a vault. Collecting on whatever the yeild is. Long gets closed. Profit is rotated back. And I move to the next narrative. Now I have a AI postion and digital gold postion. Complete profit positions. Ill close it all down when things start to go bad, but ill take the loss waiting for whatever support I set to crack confirming the down trends. Maybe close 50% and start dca's with whatever was left. And on and on and on. I also get to use price ad a lagging indicator since eventually those small positions go back to green. THEN (this is the secret) I can deploy my actual capitol when the narrative confirms and that runner position acts as protection on the full deployment because that runner lets me drop my average cost on the larger deployment. So if im wrong or the market nukes I can generally close the position before my full capitol gets hit. Rinse repeat. There is obviously way more to it but for a basic description I hope it makes sense.

ConsciousSkyy

I’m glad. Made almost 2 BTC off early ETH gains. Very very glad I sold and got out. Really feels like the Linux or MySpace of crypto

dj_destroyer

Depends what is life changing money to you. But by 2035? BTC will likely be on it's way to $500k. So You probably need \~5 to never work again depending on your age.

Supachenko82

Cryptocurrency = BTC, ETH, and maybe Solana is diversified enough. Stock = Just go for it.

Icy_Subject7683

I just shot for BTC ETH XRP and PAXOS G. And just add to them when I can

TortyPapa

If the US revalues BTC to one million per coin, they will also have to defend and buy any BTC on the open market for this price or it will not work. This means any foreign central bank or individual should be able to sell their BTC to the US government for $1 million each. If it is still/becomes a useless medium of exchange and no one wants them back, the US will be the biggest and dumbest bag holder of all time.

blackjackn

0.5 BTC will be a 3000 sqft home, uber eats daily and grocery shopping exclusively at Metro Market if not, Lexus vehicle or better, and 2-3 international vacations per year. Source: I made it up.

TentacleHockey

I love trading fee free BTC on Binance US 🤷

Guilty-Share-1508

BTC

Southern_Answer1894

Someone will mention meme coins eventually so here is what you need to know before you touch one. They are not investments. They have no revenue, no product, and no floor price. The only way someone profits is if someone else buys in after them and sells before it crashes which means by the time you see it trending the people who got in early are already looking for exits. Treat anything that is not Bitcoin as high risk speculation at best. Set your expectations now: most altcoin positions go to zero and the ones that do not take years of drawdowns to recover. If you would not be fine losing every dollar you put into something that is not BTC, do not put it in.

AdhesivenessNorth847

Im still holding 25BTC since 2016

devCheckingIn

Back's counter-point is that BTC is up 30% since it dumped to $60k at the end of last year. 🙄

almo2001

BTC was created to enrich people who got in early. Anything else is bonus.

104MAS

Coinbase is the biggest ripoff ever. They charge you a percentage for every trade, the have a ridiculous spread and will way overcharge you, they go down so you can’t sell or buy during crashes etc. I can buy a BTC etf on Schwab for zero fee and a 1 cent spread.

SuessMeetsSats

I think the better question is how much BTC can you stack if you simply DCA each week...whatever you can afford to stack and forget. Bet that's more than .5 by 2035. DCA BTC & HODL ;)

ZachF8119

No… inflation still hits every stage in mining. If the USD is weaker BTC should be higher when it’s 1 btc per 60 to 100k.

John_parker2

BTC doing its weekly "humble the retails traders" routine.

efbh1979

I had some money from inheritance, about 25k back in 2020 when the Covid crash happened. I was close to buying bitcoin (literally had my finger on the confirm button for about 5 BTC) but ended up playing it safe and buying stocks. Huge mistake... To this day I keep wondering how my life would play out by 2030-2032 if I didn't chicken out on 5 btc.... 😭

zenethics

BTC or no, 2 accounts is ideal with only spending money in each. Ideally one is a big national bank and one is a local credit union. My 2c.

Vnogkiller

Gpt — My opinion: shielded ZEC is the superior privacy technology. Monero has historically been the superior privacy default/user-behavior system. That distinction is the whole knife edge. Zcash shielded transactions use zk-SNARKs, meaning the chain can verify a transaction is valid without exposing sender, receiver, or amount. That is a deeper privacy model than Monero’s “hide the real spend among decoys” approach. Zcash is not saying “one of these 16-ish outputs is real.” It is saying “the proof is valid, but the details are not revealed.” That is a cleaner cryptographic beast. Zcash’s Orchard protocol is the current shielded design, and Halo/Halo 2 removed the old trusted-setup problem that haunted earlier Zcash narratives. Monero’s strength is mandatory privacy by culture and protocol design: ring signatures for sender ambiguity, stealth addresses for receiver privacy, and RingCT for hidden amounts. That makes Monero very strong in practice because users are not constantly choosing between transparent and private modes. Where Monero is weaker, in my view, is that ring-signature privacy is probabilistic and decoy-dependent. The system’s privacy depends heavily on ring size, decoy selection, wallet behavior, timing, churn patterns, and statistical analysis resistance. Monero researchers themselves continue refining decoy selection because the wrong decoy distribution can leak probabilistic clues. Where Zcash is weaker is social/adoption reality. Optional privacy used to be its Achilles’ heel. Transparent ZEC damaged the narrative because people could say, fairly: “great tech, but most users are not using it privately.” That critique becomes less powerful as shielded adoption rises, but it was real for years. Recent analytics have shown meaningful growth in shielded supply and shielded usage, which is exactly the metric that matters for ZEC’s privacy set. So my ranking: Best pure privacy architecture: shielded ZEC. Best historical privacy-by-default coin: Monero. Best future-facing privacy tech: ZEC, especially if shielded-by-default wallets become normal. Best current “normie can’t accidentally use it transparently” privacy UX: Monero. My blunt thesis: Monero is a beautifully hardened privacy coin. Zcash is a more powerful cryptographic privacy platform that spent years underusing its own weapon. That is why your line works: If BTC proves digital scarcity matters, then ZEC argues private digital scarcity matters.

MoHawkCrypt0

Trading is hard. Holding BTC for 1, 3, 7 or 10 years ain't easy either, that's for damn sure. that is unless you like watching your USD value go down by 77% every so often. "Smart people" scream it's going to zero, zero! sell it you stupid quack. But you sit back ignore those clowns, chuckle say those guys are fn idiots and you wait, then wait some more..........and more....and guess what, yup you're still waiting. That's ok though cuz it will be back over 100k by Christmas (long time I know) but that's probably your last chance to buy sub 100k Bitcoin. So trade it or mock it, but if your actually smart. You'll buy bitcoin regularly, smile and wait

Affectionate_Pen6882

BTC is a Comet, you cant change its trajectory

Dmarine999

Yes. BTC is becoming centralized with all the BTC treasury companies. And rumors of Saudi fund interested in gobbling up a bunch could make it a lot worse. Retail will avoid, and that will hurt long-term.

na3than

It's really not. Two times less than 1 BTC is -1 BTC.

Dmarine999

It certainly feels this way.... BTC treasury companies, lead by MSTR, are hoarding and making it less decentralized. I feel like this is not a good thing. I have just hit 2 coins recently, but I feel that I'm too late too the party.

Not_Bound

It’s exactly 1/2 BTC.

Possible-Change-9160

If you sell it and buy new BMW SUV than certainly your life will be different from now.. you will have BMW and will not have 0.5 BTC

Livinlife_

I would say get her something else too. Lots of people don’t care about the future and want something now. I know it sucks, and in 10 years she’ll be like “why didn’t you buy me more BTC!!” But that’s how it works.

pablo_in_blood

Yeah, for a lot of people .5 BTC would be life changing _right now_, let alone in 2035

pablo_in_blood

Yeah, exactly. 0.5BTC is life changing money for a lot of people already, depending on where in the world you live.

Magiamarado

BTC is an antiquated asset that has performed terribly in the last 12 months. You’re better off investing into the Nasdaq with leverage.

slacknoise8

Yeah and it’s the equivalent to 0.5 BTC

ViniSamples

It's 2 times less than 1 BTC

retireontop

Depends on what is life changing for you. BTC will probably be around 300-600k by that time.

Fun_Manufacturer_122

Yes, that seems like a reasonable number of BTC. It's a shame it's so difficult to reach those BTC levels.

morefundsneeded

Well… I’d say .5 BTC combined with any other type of motion I think you definitely got a bag there brother

morefundsneeded

Well… I’d say .5 BTC combined with any other type of motion I think definitely got a bag there gang

Direct_Low6537

I think that 0.1 BTC would be life changing I future. But for now my main goal is to achieve as much BTC as possible for me.

slacknoise8

It’s higher than 0.4 BTC

Lefties_TheWorst7331

BTC > shitcoins. They're called "alt" coins for a reason.

brkinard

Huge short position by market...either lots of people getting rich soon or BTC jumps to 82k. I think people getting rich this week.

Fit-Tiger-6448

I think the whole crypto market is done. BTC will stay the longest but most if not all Altcoins have seen their ath. Now it‘s all dying. Slow but steady. XRP will never see 2$ again like ETH will never see 4000 again. This year XRP will go below 1 and ETH under 1000. It can be over in 2028. The market is exhausted.

phaceacid

Love to read this kind of stories. BTC is a solution.

panthera_N

If BTC behaves like past cycles, that's a good thing, because it means BTC will continue to recover strongly after sharp price drops and continue to reach new ATH.

Ok-Guarantee598

Wouldn’t recommend doing bets with friends and family. Just buy more BTC and friends remain friends

Powerful_Government7

This tension is real and under-discussed. When risk-free yields are 5%, the opportunity cost of holding a zero-yield asset like BTC is significant. The "digital gold" thesis worked when rates were near zero. Now BTC needs to deliver equity-like returns just to justify not parking capital in T-bills. The question isn't whether BTC goes up — it's whether it goes up enough to compensate for the carry cost of not holding 5% risk-free.

Powerful_Government7

This asymmetry is actually well-documented historically. Only 3 of 13 BTC summers were green after a Q1 crash. The pattern you're noticing — needs a catalyst to bounce but drops on its own — is typical of a market where buyers are exhausted and sellers don't need a reason. Doesn't mean it's going lower necessarily, but it means the burden of proof is on the bulls right now.

Ill_Elk7625

Around 10, maybe less. Less than 2% of the worlds population own btc. There’s 60m+ millionaires that grows each year, with the amount of btc that have been lost and the amount locked up by treasury companies(that keep buying regardless of sentiment and price)/countries/companies/sovereign funds holding it on their balance sheets the chances are that less than 2m people will ever own a whole btc, most won’t even own .05btc. Approximately 10-30m people join the network each year with more in a bull market. When BTC hits $1m that’ll be a wake up call that drags in more people.

panthera_N

People need to stop hating the bears. BTC and ETH both have huge market capitalizations. We need to see a drop in price to get more X value. If they just pump slowly, it will be no different from gold or the SP500. >Let's pray together for: 2026: BTC 50k.......ETH 1k 2028: BTC 180k.....ETH 3.5k

BlackDog990

BTC doesn't fix wealth inequality, nor does it claim to.

perfectpaperpusher

Idk man that number keep getting smaller and smaller. I remember when BTC dom was at 70%

Cultural-Candy3219

I agree with that split. The clean bear case for BTC is not simply “bills yield 5%.” It is credible fiscal consolidation, positive real yields that can stay positive, and less fear that purchasing power has to be defended outside the banking system. If that combination actually holds, the hard-money premium should compress. The messier version is different: yields stay high until something in credit, refinancing, or politics starts to creak, then policy has to choose between tight money and system stress. In that world, high yields can hurt BTC for long stretches while still feeding the longer-term reason some people want an asset with a fixed issuance schedule. So I would not treat 5% Treasuries as a thesis-killer by themselves. I would treat them as a filter. If someone owns BTC mainly as levered liquidity beta, high real yields are hostile. If they own it as a long-duration hedge against fiscal dominance, the question is whether the fiscal path has actually improved, not just whether today’s cash rate is attractive.

Strus57

BTC is the gamble now that people are waking up and seeing the "digital gold" narrative as a sham.

Str8truth

The short-term dip may have been from Strategy not buying BTC this past week. For the longer term, BTC is not interesting many new buyers, so its value will probably continue to drift down.

BoomerSooner-SEC

I’m sort of tired of this inequality bullshit. BTC started at less than a dollar. I don’t care how poor or downtrodden you were you could afford a dollar. The reason there are have and have nots in BTC is because there were people who took the risk and people who didn’t. There are clearly unequal outcomes but we ALL had the same access. These outcomes are driven not by social forces but by decisions you did or didn’t make. Thats not “wealth inequality”. Thats the wealth you deserve.

Rare_Rich6713

Yet Google said it’s 3 years away. Props to chains like ALGO and QAN for developing quantum-resistant chains already. My question is how easy will it be for BTC to migrate.

nullc

It's a unserious garbage proposal which has effectively already failed. its authors and proponents consistently lie about it's properties -- including critical ones such as the fact that it will confiscate the coins of people using a traditional timelock to pay to a moderately complicated multisig. It's also already been discussed to death and the proponents keep using bad-faith techniques like flooding with AI generated slop intentionally breaking forum rules then complaining their posts were removed or just outright lying and saying they were censored when their posts were never sent at all and doing it from behind sock accounts to escape consequences for their bad conduct. The proposal absolutely guts bitcoin's programmatic functionality, stripping out conditionals (so no "if then" ... so much for calling it script) and caps taproot trees to 127 leaves which means you can't recover from the missing if statements by pre-expanding all the possibilities (at least if your script had mode than 7 choices).. Keep in mind that 10 choose 5 is 252 so even 5 out of ten like thresholds have issues. And then it does all this without even accomplishing a purpose-- when pressed the proponents have been forced to admit that it won't stop or abate spam. Not the "spam" is even a major issue currently or for the last several years-- prevailing transaction rates for immediate confirmation are just cents [and have been for a long time](https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),all,weight).

Top-Care-8946

I recommend consider using "cold" aka Hardware wallet instead of "hot wallet" like online account. The main idea is that your account can be "freezed" or become inaccessible for various reasons.Once you have significant amount of BTC or any crypto assets it's really very stressful to lose them. As fact there are already some online platforms closed and this exposes a direct risk of loss your assets. If you have Hardware wallet then you can be sure that you control your private keys (it's the main key to access your funds and make transactions) because in crypto world there is a rule: Not your keys, not your coins. I am using for an example Trezor Safe3 but there are different HW wallet companies that offer their products. Some of them are BTC-Only, some are cross-network based (They're supporting different blockchain networks). Generally you can buy crypto from exchange platform and then send or transfer onto your wallet address or you can also trade directly in-app, but these transfers have higher fees. I am buying crypto from Kraken and I always transfer funds immediately to my Trezor.

XXsforEyes

I love that so many people fixate on early Bitcoin adopters and call it out as unfair. They took the risk, they get the reward. One point of BTC is that people have opportunity. Anyone with a computer or a cell phone and an internet connection can participate. It’s still up to the person to do something about that opportunity: mine it, buy it, earn it, HODL it. If you (the indefinite you) are the person stopping you from doing one of these things, that’s on you.

MoistAbuelita

BTC price is being suppressed as we speak due to foreign countries usage to circumnavigate trad-fi and illegally transact for their own benefit. Iran cough cough Russia cough cough NK

SoundMoneyWade

Flow vs Thesis. Real yields hurt BTC in the short run by raising the opportunity cost. That's real and people underestimate how much speculative positioning gets unwound when bills offer 5%. But that's a flow problem, not a thesis problem. The thesis only breaks if the fiscal situation resolves cleanly, which would mean the high yields worked, the debt gets managed, and the dollar stays trusted. That's the scenario where you'd want to revisit the hard-money argument. The more likely path, based on where debt issuance is headed, is that high yields become politically unsustainable before they become fiscally solved. That's the loop you're pointing at, and I think it's the right place to focus. Short run, yields create headwinds. Longer run, the reason yields are high is part of the reason BTC exists.

quantumsparq

Yep. I keep an amount of BTC in a cold wallet for liquidity. I’m very comfortable with it.

Typical_Pool_2969

I remember buying my first coin at around 20$. Good times.. at some point I was holding 48 BTC before everyone's funds disappeared, not much of security back then. Lesson learned

Ge_Yo

Yep. The fact that governments, institutions, and even projects now treat BTC as a reserve or settlement asset already says a lot about how far the perception has evolved.

Ge_Yo

True. And that’s why the idea of native BTC utility is becoming a bigger conversation now too, not just BTC as passive long-term savings. Delegated borrowing, productive BTC reserve models, and BTC-backed liquidity could become a huge shift over time.