BTC

crosshawk21

Anyone else actually enjoy the boring Bitcoin days? After enough years in BTC, sideways feels almost relaxing 😂

quintavious_danilo

KYC/AML rules and the recently introduced MiCA regulation aim to regulate the crypto market and prevent money laundering and tax evasion. Do you think these regulations will be relaxed or tightened over the next 10 to 20 years? I’d say they’ll get stricter, making it increasingly difficult to buy and sell unregulated BTC. I’m just an ordinary guy you know. I want to accumulate BTC now and be able to sell it easily later whenever the time feels right. Should I look for people on P2P exchanges to sell my BTC for cash? But what would I actually do with, say, $500k in cash? And yes, those are the kinds of sums I’d like to have accumulated in 10 to 20 years. I just want to cash out and be done with it. I have no intention of playing Robin Hood or anything like that.

themastersmith123

Avoid LEVERAGE. AVOID OPTIONS. JUSR BUY AND HOLD BTC

PatchyRain

This time round, just SOL and BTC. Got fed up of all the sh*tcoins dragging my portfolio down.

Scottex99

You don’t have any money, you don’t know what you’re doing - there is zero point in “becoming a trader” Put $100 into BTC and check it again in 10 years

Bred_Slippy

AI and BTC mining use very different hardware (GPUs/TPUs vs SHA-256 ASIC) so you can't just switch their compute like that. 

Billgatesisamoron

I no longer have the confidence I once had in BTC because of how retarded the developer community is on both sides of any debate. I started diversifying into owning acreage. It seems as though holding btc in 2026 is basically putting the fate of your entire net worth in the hands of a small group of retard developers. Some of them want to increase the supply cap with tail emissions. Not a safe bet imo.

Medium-Renewed

You're right, my example was bad but you get the point. Short term outperformance against BTC shouldn't count as altseason when they are generally still down massively from ATH, so the index should rather consider data that indiciates that altcoins are showing major growth to actual new highs (like TOTAL3ES). Hope we will see that again this cycle..

omni_wisdumb

No the F it's not. Stop pretending BTC (or any Crypto project) is trying to have any utility. There's a reason Satoshi left the project way back at the beginning, and most definitely lost his keys bc he also thought it was dead. There's only one reason anyone gets into this space, and it's to make more fiat via profits.

HedgehogGlad9505

Comparing to what? I mean, do you think you will be better holding 100k USD than 1 BTC when ASI happens? That is all you need to decide. The rest is not related to BTC.

chainglance_cm

By the morning of the announcement, futures traders had it at over 90% odds, so it was priced in weeks earlier. That's partly why BTC was sliding in the run-up. Once the Fed actually did it, the uncertainty was gone and the "sell the news" crowd had already sold. A small 25bp hike also looks nothing like 2022, when they kept hiking every meeting. Add oil dropping and Trump-Xi optimism, and a relief bounce makes sense. So yes, three things usually happen at once. The trick is to ask what the market expected, since the event itself matters less than the gap between the expectation and what actually happened.

Cryptognito

Start by not trading. Start by not calling it crypto and sticking to BTC only and start by having a buy and hold strategy. Once you’re comfortable with that strategy, and you see some gain in value of your portfolio by simply sitting and holding Then and only then should you consider the possibility of diversifying out of BTC and or trading If you know, nothing about trading then you will be I’m a short pass to losing money Buy and hold patiently is a strategy that can be used by novices and still get gains.

Cryptognito

Start by not trading. Start by not calling it crypto and sticking to BTC only and start by having a bite and hold strategy. Once you’re comfortable with that strategy, and you see some gain in value of your portfolio by simply sitting and holding Then and only then should you consider the possibility of diversifying out of BTC and or trading If you know, nothing about trading then you will be I’m a short pass to losing money Buy and hold patiently is a strategy that can be used by novices and still get gains.

chainglance_cm

Nice work. Are you using today's top 50 or the one from 90 days ago? Today's has survivorship bias baked in, since coins that pumped into it count as winners and the ones that dumped out vanish. Also worth stripping stables, wrapped BTC and LSTs, since they can't beat BTC by design. Your Dec 2024 point is the solid though.

chainglance_cm

TradingView has a paper trading mode, and Binance and Bybit both have demo accounts if you want to poke at futures without real money. Give it a month and compare your results to just buying BTC and doing nothing. Most people lose to the "do nothing" strategy, and it's way better to find that out with fake money. I'd skip futures for now. With $300 and leverage, a random wick can liquidate you even when you were right about the direction.

Cosmineus

BTC is a hot potato now

Heyy_linni

Forget buying things when BTC hits millions. I’m just waiting for the dip to buy the dip of the dip.

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BoringPrinciple2542

The rule of 4-5% withdrawals predates Bitcoin by fifteen years and is based on stock market data going back to 1926. The point of 60-75k safe withdrawals is based on the $1.5mil valuation (1.5M x 0.04 = 60k while 1.5M x 0.05 = 75k). The discussion of the relative value of $1.5mil is not tethered to the market volatility of BTC. When the conversation is over your head and you don’t understand what is going on, it is ok to keep your mouth shut. In fact, most people prefer it as it prevents highlighting their stupidity.

CryptoPulseOficial

Corto: es una herramienta divertida con memoria selectiva, no un oráculo. Contexto: nació en 2014 como un **meme** en Bitcoin Talk — alguien pintó bandas de colores sobre un gráfico logarítmico y les puso nombres ("¡Estás loco si vendes!", "Máximo de burbuja", etc.). Después varios la refinaron con regresión logarítmica. **Lo que sí tiene de fondo:** BTC ha crecido en escala logarítmica desde su origen, así que una regresión log "atrapa" el precio hacia el centro de las bandas razonablemente bien. **Lo que nadie te cuenta:** * Es *curve fitting*: la recalibraron después de casi cada ciclo. El arcoíris de 2017 "falló" en 2021; el de 2021 ya fue reajustado. Siempre afilan el pasado, nunca predicen el futuro. * Solo funciona mientras BTC crezca secular. Si entra en fase de madurez (tipo oro), las bandas dejan de tener sentido. * Cero fundamentos: no ve halvings, flujos de ETF, macro ni adopción. Es el precio pasado dibujado bonito. **Cómo usarla bien:** como termómetro de sentimiento, no como señal. Bandas inferiores = históricamente zona de acumulación paciente. Bandas superiores = zona donde la euforia te cobra caro. Pero ni eso es garantía: en 2021 tocar la banda roja no impidió que siguiera subiendo un buen rato después. Si tu plan es "compro en verde, vendo en rojo", funciona hasta que deja de funcionar — y nadie te avisa cuándo es ese momento. Úsala como mapa del clima, no como pronóstico.

Full-Shake-173

ok sure but the word "offer" makes it sound like a hypothetical situation where someone is offering above market price, rather than the price of BTC just being higher at some point in the future

Ordinary-One2597

Take the offer and use the fiat to buy 0.1 BTC lol

Bluejumprabbit

This is just BTC dominance sitting elevated, capital crowds into BTC early in a move and alts only get a real bid once it flattens out. Watch the dominance chart rolling over as your signal, that's usually when rotation into ETH and the majors actually kicks in.

DNR159

AI stocks are the new BTC. BTC is the new gold

Time_Basis2535

Over the last year I have converted 6 0z of gold to BTC. Gold had its run. BTC is still 30 % off

Blackfish69

why it increases more than those other things is simply because of the ease of access AND scarcity. At some point bitcoin becomes a profit center as more people turn to it for any number or reasons. In theory, all of those other things keep becoming more productive, more available, and/or less demand by shrinking populations. In contrast, BTC just needs to capture more market share and keep spreading. That’s basically it.

LiZa_Angel8716

Personally, I wouldn't sell a profitable asset just because another one is dipping. Gold and Bitcoin serve different purposes in a portfolio. I've learned that patience, diversification, and risk management matter more than trying to catch the perfect entry point. Why not keep some gold and gradually build your BTC position instead?

DarrelXero

This is what you will run into. Those of us dipping a toe and moving on are not the whales you are looking for. There were enthusiasts and there was something else. Could be forced HODLing through semi-lost keys or true visionaries. Either way you aren't going to get the historical record you are looking for. Kudos for trying though. I formatted the drive holding my wallet.dat after mining (unsuccessfully) in that time frame but holding multiple BTC freely given by the faucet because I came to the conclusion that everyone was right and it was a scam. Just a story and no system logs. Write a dissertation on that ;)

Anxious_Ad1846

1000% of a BTC or 10

Inevitable_Moment_11

All this time over a coin that 100s of coins do the same , some even faster. BTC is manipulated.

StopBeingABot

Bro BTC was literally created as hard money. Not fiat. Fiats collapse is exactly why the technology was created

Embarrassed-Ad-7032

vol-neutralized momentum across coins and one called low BTC-beta alts plus BTC. worth an update since that comment though, the crypto benchmark itself turned out to be wrong. someone else on this thread pointed out the 18 coin basket is a today-survivor list, so i rebuilt it point in time back to 2017 using historical market cap snapshots. holding what actually existed each year, bitconnect and nem included, returns 20%/yr instead of the 79%/yr the survivor basket shows. so the honest hurdle for these strategies is way lower than i originally benchmarked against also ran your other point, dropping each strategy's single best year and re-annualizing what's left. 0 of 46 strategies that were ahead of buy and hold stay ahead once their best year is removed. the crypto one you're asking about is the extreme case, every single year of its 9 year run was positive, so there's no 'rest of the series' left once you pull the best run out your fear/greed number holding up better is interesting though, might be a genuinely different effect to what i tested, i only had directional momentum and vol signals not a sentiment index

Medium-Renewed

I think the altseason index sucks, it basically alerts an altseason when alts make a 2x across the board after -90%. It should rather be based on BTC pairs or ratios like TOTAL3ES

ComasArentFun

ASI is a lie. Don't fall for the bait.. think of it as a the BCH to BTC AI is a tool. BTC is a tool - both only as good as the application it's applied to (BTC > AI btw.. just to be clear. AI promotes inflation and wealth inequality, BTC seeks to bridge it) BCH was a fabricated lie pretending to do more than the tool it replicated. ASI is the same The ASI branding is just AI with a new hat on..

gustavodemelo

Acho que justamente em outubro o BTC irá subir buscando novas máximas.

plumpyplummy

Get off coinbase BTC will go up, promise. I am in the hospital till end of the week. Go out to a park, smell the bushes. Once I get out Sunday, check back at it again.

coolfarmer

Yes, I can imagine, because I bought BTC and ETH in March 2016. I am still holding, leverage will never get me.

Ok_Body_2830

Cheers. One mental trick I use is if I am thinking "should I sell or should I hold?" or in bad times "should I buy or keep my powder dry?", I think "why not both?" and sell (or buy) some and keep some, From a mindset perspective, it means that I am happy with any movement. A year or so ago, I had sold about 30% of my holdings for a decent profit. When it fell, I thought to myself "Great! I will replenish my BTC at a lower price and keep the difference as profits (or reinvest them to have a bigger stack)". If it had kept going up, I would have thought "Great! I'll sell some more and have even more profits." So I am always fairly happy about my investments. And probably most importantly for both mental health and my investment strategy, not stressed and always second guessing myself. I admit that's a bit of a cheat. The same logic that I use to tell myself "anything is a win" also means anything is a loss. But if you can get yourself to think that way you will be both happier and are likely to do better.

Plus_Seesaw2023

I’ve lost roughly the equivalent of 4 BTC. I started out with less than one BTC. I lost it all.

lynchrw

There's another Reddit page called Bitcoin is money. many people there call the hard fork Bitcoin and the original BTC Bitcoin is a scam. A very delusional lot over there.

AD1AD

> > They have the first mover advantage for DeFi. EVM chains had full programability at launch, while UTXO chains didn't get comparable programability until many years later. > And that doesn't make you hesitant at all to see UTXO be completely supplanted by other models? No? Why would it? They moved first, but don't scale well. It was an open question for a long time whether you could even do the things EVM could do on UTXO. But we learned/proved it can. And now... we're building? What about that situation would make me hesitant? It makes me confident. I know the use-cases have demand. EVM proved it. But UTXO actually scales so, long term, DeFi that requires massive scale will almost certainly be on UTXO. > And yeah, now the other methods have the most infrastructure and tooling but that wasn't always the case. I mean, if Vitalik knew the benefits of UTXO back then and still chose to go another route for Ethereum, what does that tell you? He knew the benefits of UTXO for scaling, but didn't know what kinds of applications would take off with EVM, nor did he know whether UTXO could reach similar levels of programability. Like I said, it was an open question whether UTXO could support advanced programability until much much later. > And yes, Ethereum is exploring UTXO-style features, but like I've explained already to the Cardano maxis, it doesn't exactly make me think "UTXO = right, accounts = bad" when the blog referenced literally says "This property is worth borrowing, and Ethereum can have it without giving up accounts. For payment workloads that do not need persistent state, native UTXOs bring the permanent state usage down by roughly 99.8%." Of course ETH doesn't want to give up accounts, because that's what all their infrastructure and tooling is built around. The fact that they recognize UTXO as merely a scaling option for simple constructions is shortsighted, but still proves the original point you wanted answered: do authorities recognize UTXOs better scaling properties? Yes, they do. Even if ETH just moves its basic send/receive functionality to UTXO (not all its smart features), it would scale much better. Moving to pure UTXO DeFi would basically mean throwing away their entire ecosystem, so, again, of course they're not going to do that. > UTXO went from virtually 100% market share of usage, to less than 1%(pretty much no matter how you measure it) and the way it's trending is that if it exists at all it will only be supplementary on chains that are natively based in other models. A lot of that has to do with the Bitcoin hijacking. Adoption was increasing exponentially until ~2016 when we hit the blocksize limit. The fact that UTXO chains have gone to the wayside is probably due to the perfect storm of BTC being hijacked and EVM unlocking a TON of new use-cases. But that doesn't say ANYTHING about EVM's long term viability. It just means it got the first mover advantage.

BoringPrinciple2542

ErikBKL said: “1.5m usd is a wow fucking wow life changing amount. It's incredible. I wish we get there. If that's the bearish case - wowowowow” You responded to him: “1.5m usd with a family of 4 is for me not fuck you money... it's not enough..” A reasonable person would assume you are disagreeing with his statement and stating hat $1.5mil is “not enough”. We could pretend that this was a misunderstanding but you replied to my initial response with: “My means differ from yours ;-). I don't live frugal (and I dont want to)”. Then you go on to say: “Let's take a realistic example. Mom & dad 30yo with 1.5mil in their account and kids around 5 years old following the 4% rule (and that's only 60.000$ which is NOT enough for a family of 4,” So I’m assuming that you disagree with the original statement and haven’t just been arguing a point because you think I’m devilishly handsome and want me to continue interacting with you. If you are expecting to retire early in your career then why do you care about the price of BTC in 20 years? And if you make so much money that $60-75k is meaningless then why worry about the cost of retirement? But as a wise man once said: “So first read before you emotionally react”. 😁

pr0prfkt

If you truly believed in BTC you would auto buy and only plan to sell when you have an urgent expense to pay for. You can’t time markets. And you even say you plan to hold for years and are already contemplating exit. Auto buy, don’t panic sell. That’s all anyone needs to know. BTC has worked similarly to legacy, just that the penalty for panic selling is more severe because of the volatility. The solution: don’t panic sell. Best of luck.

Upbeat-Student5924

me personally would firstly allocate a big % to BTC however do like ADA, AVAX and LINK.

CoinRabbitFinance

Hey! Dominance is better read as relative performance than as a literal map of capital flows. It can rise because money is moving into BTC, because altcoins are falling faster, or because both are happening at once. Crypto-backed borrowing is one example of activity that the metric does not capture. Borrowing stablecoins against BTC on CoinRabbit changes how that BTC is being used, but it does not create an altcoin-to-BTC purchase. I’d compare dominance with spot volumes, stablecoin supply, and BTC/alt performance before drawing conclusions about where capital moved.

mamon_miner

Don’t sell Use Compound Finance and get loan in usdt against BTC with 3.5% Annually Keep it under 50% and you should be good

inadyttap

i liked it better when BTC was above $100k

Electronic_Map1148

I would split the position into a long term portion and a portion you would genuinely be willing to sell. That removes the pressure to find one perfect exit price for everything. Moon can handle shorter term BTC directional views separately but that is very different from deciding what to do with actual bitcoin you intend to hold for years.

Express_Reach980

Price gets all the attention, meanwhile the network just keeps producing blocks through every cycle and headline. That consistency is probably one of the coolest parts of Bitcoin. Moon's BTC market sits on the price speculation side of the equation, while the underlying network just keeps doing its thing regardless of sentiment.

UnhappyVast4933

This is basically the universal Bitcoin experience. Nothing happens forever, patience finally breaks, then price immediately starts moving. Trying to perfectly time every short term swing is a fast way to make yourself miserable. Moon makes the directional bet explicit, while actually holding BTC is a completely different long term decision.

Working_Pick_5723

Price refusing to break while a seemingly bearish flow is hitting the market is often more interesting than the flow number itself. If sellers keep showing up and price absorbs it, somebody else is taking the other side. Reclaiming and holding 80K would make that resilience more meaningful. Moon's BTC market gives a continuous directional read but I would still watch spot structure and actual ETF flows before treating sentiment as confirmation.

Right_Strength2170

LINK is weird, frontran even BTC on the August pump, now every upwards attempt gets sold off.

Unlisted_User69420

I respect your decision as well. I understand risk appetite, had to absorb the gut punch as I actually went red by 2% earlier this year, after the ATH back in October 2025. I just started investing, later than I should have, so taking a risk on BTC, balancing with stock and 401k to pad my retirement. All the best, and may we all prosper

Equal_Wheel109

Ik heb gehoord dat je met 10 BTC een pizza kunt kopen. Doe maar in plaats van fiat, want dan heb je tenminste gegeten

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polymath_uk_

I may be being a bit slow. You have the hash in that link. Presumably we put the password candidates through a hashing algorithm and aim to match the published hash or produce a different valid hash. What algorithm is used for this hashing and how do we validate the output?  I used to know a fair bit about encryption (wrote a double ratchet messaging app) but it's been a while and I've never looked at how BTC does it. How embarrassing. 

Pyroll2206

Yes bro i was just talking about the technicality that there just no BTC in no wallet on the all world ( in the sense of having fiat money in your physical wallet ). Your balance on you cold wallet is also a raw in the giant data base that is the blockchain.

kennychesney_lied

trying to double your BTC by timing the market is going to end in failure and you will regret it unfortunately. you don't want to be that guy that says "i had so much btc at one point it i still had it today i'd be rich"

whiteknives

If someone does crack it I hope they’re honest, because you just handed the entire world a treasure map to 16BTC.

AncientWanderer00999

you can sell half and buy BTC

Unlisted_User69420

I’m winning, been DCAing since 2021. Sitting on .7509 BTC, up 31%.

Dependent_Ant8054

Cold storage still makes the most sense for the stack I do not plan to touch. I keep the trading side separate because mixing long term BTC with short term moves is how I end up doing dumb stuff after a red candle. Been testing Moon for the market side and keeping custody as its own thing. Makes the setup boring but boring is good when BTC starts throwing 5 percent candles around

Fdgm1tveT

Flaunt your BTC. How many you holding?

sa1ffff

I’m gonna HODL that. But it’s kinda cheap now. Wondering if i should move from Gold to BTC. I also am stuck with my silver investment. Cannot sell it at a loss. Gold is where im in a significant profit and can cash it towards BTC

booyahbroski

1.0 BTC or more. Sorry, but 0.05 ain’t gonna cut it if you want to be wealthy. I’m assuming $1,000,000+ BTC at that time.

BetterFunny6883

Never ever sell your BTC, it'll be a $21 million per coin by 2046 Watch this before you die https://youtu.be/hqoagNBtIps?si=Ir5eRU3XnHJLbMjf

ribz18

I’m saying somewhere in the area of 500-800k Because after 2 halvings… let’s say each halving causes the price to double from the last ATH… and at that point a block will be 0.78125 BTC if a blocks purchasing power stays roughly the same (roughly 300k today) when a block is 0.78125 the cost for one bitcoin should be something more then 300k of buying power So my base case (on the low end) is around 500-800k USD

CrustyBus77

No, I mean that when BTC goes up I can move out of my parents basement.

hoppeeness

Small alts have been out performing BTC. Usually they are after BTC/ETH/SOL. They still seem connected as a market but not lead by BTC anymore.

tandlmosey

Sure thing. Long one to follow: First, write down all of your debts in the order you are going to pay them off, not the amount you owe. You mentioned cc debt in another post, which is usually by far the worst debt to carry. So unless by some miracle the cc debt is a lower interest rate than your 13% student loan, that's the first one to pay down. And you need to pay more than the minimum monthly payment. The cc companies want you to do that bc you never get out of it. They won't like you paying more, so think of it as giving them the middle finger every time you send more than the minimum. Also, right now today get rid of your credit cards/apple pay all of that. You should just pay cash for what you need until you can get your finances in a better spot. Part of getting in debt is not 'feeling' it when you spend. But with cash, you can old school see it and feel it. Sounds kind of crazy but it really works. Putting things on credit cards is too easy to feel like you didn't pay for it at all, when you're really paying 10 times more for what you bought when you add in the interest on the debt. You mentioned moving in with your folks. That would definitely be a money saver, but know that Ii you do that you Can.Not. slack off. Sometimes people move back home with the intention to save some $ but sometimes parents are caring for you like when you were a little kid in that situation, which leads some people to stay stuck in that mode. You need to focus on getting out of this debt hole you're in asap bc that student loan amount by itself is enough to fuck up your life later on. And also think about work you can engage in to up your income. I don't know your age, so if you're starting out in life your income won't be all that great which is fine. but you need to think of areas that can bump it up--construction, plumbing, that kind of thing pays quite a bit these days and they are hiring. I'm not preaching btw I had lots of cc debt, luckily a small student loan, but I let the credit get wayyy out of hand. Buckling down and paying it off is the smartest financial thing I ever did. Totally freed me up to invest in stocks, BTC etc later and do very well. Good luck!

Pennies2millions

You guys act like BTC wasn't supposed to be a tradeable asset.  It's just like any other asset. Cars, real estate, Indian Rupees, and literally everything else in the world, will change prices with interest rates. Why do you think that it would behave any different?  Being free from Central banks doesn't change how people trade. 

Expensive-Paint-9490

Honestly Ethereum price seems correlated as always to BTC price.

basketbun

There is a company that holds your BTC in a will or trust for your beneficiary, called LEDN. They have an estate plan for it. I don't know much about it, but have seen ads for it.

quintavious_danilo

I knew about that already and it doesn’t stress me at all. I rather have my BTC kyc’d and MiCA-regulated so I don’t run into any restrictions in 10-20 years when non-KYC BTC will be impossible to sell.

powerbone

Institutional ETF absorption distorts historical 200DMA averages, making structural liquidity key for $BTC expansion.

Cryptomuscom

No exit strategy needed when you're measuring in BTC

Coininator

This. And exchange doesn’t buy BTC and sell them, an exchange matches buyers and sellers through the order book… Same if you buy stocks. It’s not NASDAQ holding Apple stocks, it’s the seller selling to the buyer…

quintavious_danilo

Yeah, but I simply ignore the altcoins altogether. I put the BTC/EUR pair into my favorites and that’s the only pair I see when I open the app. I don’t even see the other coins.

Adept-Condition4644

Hhheeyyyyy, agreed. Got 50% BTC, 25% ETH and 25% HBAR going in.  Almost 10 years fucking around trying to buy the unknown (never realized gains) now just buy and hold.  

Oliverdako

AI could actually be good for Bitcoin mining. Miners can use cheap power for BTC mining and switch to AI workloads when that pays more. The big question is whether BTC price and fees can keep mining profitable as the block rewards keep getting smaller.

EthanDavis63

Buying $20k worth of BTC as a multi-millionaire isn't an investment, it's just a PR campaign for the crypto vote.

basketbun

I like to use the Power Law when thinking about this stuff, 2046 Power Law predicts $9.5 million USD for 1 BTC, not really assuming hyperinflation, I would say 1 BTC today would be enough to be life changing in 2046.

Oliverdako

Basically: You give MoonPay $1,000. MoonPay gets the Bitcoin from exchanges or other sellers. They send the BTC to you and make money from fees/spread. The dollars don't turn into Bitcoin on the blockchain. You're simply buying BTC that already exists.

quintavious_danilo

Personally, I like Kraken Pro or Bitpanda both charge around 0.25% in fees for spot trading BTC. I also use OKX occasionally, spot fees are only 0.1%, I just can't shake an uneasy feeling about that exchange though. I only buy small amounts there while I always handle larger purchases via Kraken Pro.

SamFromJupiter

I would suggest keeping your BTC stack in self-custody wallets. so ideally non-kyc But yeah, make sure you have a hardware wallet bcz you are now responsible for storing your btc securely.

Icy_Dragonfruit__

Just be careful with trying to sell at a specific target and buy back lower. Getting the timing wrong twice can leave you with less BTC than you started with.

Savings_Language_183

that counterfactual is fun, but the real lesson is how absurdly path-dependent it is. A kid starting college now has a fixed deadline, while BTC can drop 30% during one bad month. Tuition money needs to be there when the invoice lands

ExpertGur1136

Since you’re too dumb to analyze this things called nrs, at least use ChatGPT: Over roughly the **last 2 months**, Bitcoin has increased by about **30–31%**. **25 July 2026:** \~$64,312 per BTC **24 September 2026 close:** \~$84,379 **Increase:** \~$20,067 per BTC **Percentage gain:** **\~31.2%** So, for example, **€10,000 invested two months ago would be worth roughly €13,120 today**, ignoring EUR/USD movements and fees. The exact 60-day measure (27 Jul → 25 Sep) is about **+29.1%**. Keep trying to sound smart 🐑

Honest-Mess-7431

How is this possible, China banned BTC, right?

faisal_yk26

Watching the 30-year yield more than the BTC chart this week. It hit its highest since 2004 yesterday and BTC slid straight back under 84k. Until yields cool off I think we just chop around here.

outoftownMD

All season will be incredibly diluted and minimal again except for the solid projects. Things like pump, fun diluted liquidity, and all those people who rug pull through those all coins will trade back into Ethereum, BTC, USDC or USDT. I have a lot of SUI

A_Honking_Goose

Because if you look at certain bull market indicators u will see BTC is already above most of them why are you sideliners so slow and weird with this stuff, just means as per usual you people miss out on the initial pump and end up fomoing in later

goyva

i think the biggest question is what happens if BTC suddenly drops 20–30%, not whether borrowing looks smart while it’s going up. That’s what made Arch Lending interesting to me. The BTC is held with Anchorage, they say it isn’t rehypothecated, and liquidations can be partial instead of automatically closing the entire position. If I was borrowing against BTC, I’d probably care more about those details and keeping the LTV conservative than trying to predict where Bitcoin goes next.

Jurgenlklopp

i feel there is a complex pullback gping on but then again, i said that 2 days ago and the support at 84k holds still. That's why it is called complex i guess. But my feel is being supported because BTC also got rejected at 84.3k multiple times so it will be interesting today what is going to happen. My humble analyses says we will either stay here for the weekend or we will slowly head back to 79k.

0a0d0s0

You've got the accumulating and HODLing part... the bit people often forget is having a plan for what happens next! 😄 That's actually why I built [https://bitcoinlifespan.com](https://bitcoinlifespan.com) ... you can play around with stacking, HODLing and eventually withdrawing BTC to see how different scenarios might work out.

kebertxelag

Some good advice here but a lot of people romanticize buying the dip and stacking sats, at some point you’ll need money to live off of if a significant portion of your wealth is in BTC. You can either stack sats responsibly forever but will have to live with the reduced income forever until these price targets, or stack sats at certain price targets as we go lower then layer out as we go back up. I personally have a never touch/never go below amount and a trading amount that I do this with.

Volgrand

None. I stick with my usual portfolio: BTC, eth, XRP and ADA. And I did bet for VELO, so I'll hold it until moon or dust (or a better investment comes by)

marshallxfogtown

I do the exact same thing, havn't had to sell much yet, and started doing it at what seems like a great time. Have accumulated 0.026BTC since June, average price of 64k.

Charmy_Babe

Have acquired 0.00328898 BTC so far

Pyroll2206

I would had 1% payed in BTC ! Mining without mining XD