BTC

Much-Possibility6336

Just buy normal BTC and decide what to do with it after the time window.

Initial_Fun_2093

I have .1 BTC and it’s approximately 1/8 of my portfolio

Mobilink-124

BTC is going between 78000$ to 84,000$ .over all it is going to 135000$

Ajfennewald

not one has ever shown me a problem that BTC solves. Other than for criminal uses.

Trick_Dragonfly460

The scaling algo provides enough buffer time for more miners to spin up and prevent centralization before allowing blocks to keep going bigger. Again it's not just infinite unchecked growth. And if BCH usage spiked, then it would be more profitable to mine BCH. The philosophy is high transactions count low fees, the referse of BTC's fee market structure. Too bad the block war left many exhausted and wastefully robbed a lot of energy and manpower from crypto, but BCH has tech that's real and could solve the problem if it was given a chance.

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Extension-Sense-13

mistake on title it was 0.018 BTC at the rate of like $72-73k ish😭 still good?

SsoundLeague

BTC typically retraces 50% of ATH, as well as the 200 day MA being around 58-59k range. Not surprising it ended up actually retesting that 200 MA support. I don't think we are done yet, also expected numerous relief rallies to 70-75k even 80k before eventually falling once again. I still stand by my rule of the cycle. Until we break that rule in October, that's my plan.

dirtyshits

Yeah ofc you have to know what you’re doing. I’ve taken gains 9 times over the last 7 years in BTC. Bought me a house but not recommended for folks who don’t have conviction and a solid plan.

Leintk

BTC has more utility in large one off purchases vs. instant transactions due to the blockchains required difficulty. So btc will never be able to be like a credit card where we pay our grocery's with btc. It has much more utility in being used to fund massive construction projects, or purchasing a large amount of equity in a company, etc. Because to transfer billions through the banking system it takes way too long, and involves it's own risks. BTC avoids all of that. So from my perspective there is a lot more functionality in btc as a nations reserves, or large transactional wealth exchange. Of course poor people can own btc and profit from having a share of "digital gold" but it's not really going to be any use for them functionally speaking besides watching it sit in your wallet. (disregarding illegal transactions)

JohnnyStrides

The average person trying to time things is going to get it wrong way more often than right... you're not wrong though selling when you're in the green is never a bad idea but... I'm assuming anyone investing in bitcoin isn't foolish enough to actually need those funds anytime before retirement. It's the ultimate "let it ride" asset. The days of moving it over to an alt after BTC goes on a run seem to be over with the death of the alt season. You're right on the taxes as well, in Canada one can take their profits from cashing out and move enough into their FHSA/RRSP to offset the gains tax.

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Extension-Sense-13

Thanks so much for your reply, Ill see this as that, rather then leaving $1k in the bank, that I am never planning to use unless in critical unexpected conditions, I will leave it in the BTC and hope that it will rise again. What If I am saving the money until I have my first job, hence I have few months until june, which is when I would need money, You recon I should still sell? loose $150? or just hope for the best until maybe it will go up and Ill get what I paid for back? I paid $1.3k at the BTC rate of around $72,184.

ThePirateFairy

I went all in on XRP, have a little in HBAR, XLM, SOL and DOGE. XRP has been a wild ride, but there is a strong community and if you study up on the utility you have the potential to really get somewhere even with a small investment. I love the idea of BTC, but the cost is too high that a ROI is just not worth it.

tshureih

Like someone said earlier, consider it "gambling". I am old enough and throughout my life and career experiences, I can claim that I learned a few things and thus would like to share an opinion based on experience and facts. I remember when I received a forwarded email from a non-technical friend, sometime in 2009, telling me about this project called Bitcoin and how it's the next big thing and will eliminate Banks, etc., which I told him later when we met, it's a scam or fake. At the time, Bitcoin was still mined with CPUs. I later read the White Paper and learned more about Bitcoin. "One CPU one Vote" was the idea, but then GPUs replaced CPUs and now ASICs dominate. The point is, the people who actually make money in BTC are either: 1) Early adopters when each Block reward was 50 BTC 2) Today, you need money to make money -- Starting capital to buy ASICs, warehouse, electricity, etc. Everyone else is gambling. ETH is not usable anymore. The fees alone contradict the whole "cheaper and faster than Banks". Who makes money in the ETH eco-system? "Validator" holders which requires 32 staked ETH (and most validators lose money when fees are low).....same with Solana and all PoS coins. I don't pay attention to meme coins, but there is another in-your-face gambling scam, sadly, under the name and umbrella of Cryptocurrency! Cheers ✌🏽

hindermore

If you are investing, leave your BTC alone, stop checking charts, and go touch some grass. If you are gambling, then I suggest you don't use an amount that will cause you to lose sleep if it goes down another 50% tomorrow.

Revolutionary-Rub103

If you started buying these assets a few weeks ago. It means you have been accumulating more BTC than the other assets to keep it at 15% (since BTC has been falling more than the other assets). I think it's smart to keep doing that, but if you are prepared to take on higher volatility, you could increase your BTC allocation...

Extension-Sense-13

will BTC rise by 10%? ($69,976.77 )from this rate or not a chance this year? to see if I should just hope it will, and get my mone and tiny profit and just leave it for months? until june?

Extension-Sense-13

I bought 0.18 BTC at this rate, $71,222

ThirdHuman

Right. Take out credit, sell your house, withdraw your 401k. The only way to lose is failing to buy more BTC.

DullTranslocation

Keep it all in BTC and thank me later!

Extension-Sense-13

will BTC rise by 10%? ($69,976.77 )from this rate or not a chance this year? to see if I should just hope it will, and get my mone and tiny profit and just leave it for months? until june?

Aboozer2

Well, don't get too excited. This may just be a temporary recovery on the way down. Whoever was dumping huge amounts of BTC may continue doing this.

Extension-Sense-13

What If I am saving the money until I have my first job, hence I have few months until june, which is when I would need money, You recon I should still sell? loose $150? or just hope for the best until maybe it will go up and Ill get what I paid for back? I paid $1.3k at the BTC rate of around $72,184.

chubs66

\>tortoise and hare metaphors Hilarious because in what world it BTC some kind of agile, distracted hare? Cardano managed to just be a much slower tortoise in a race with about 100 other more capable hares.

Flamboiant_Canadian

Not really. Everything that is compared to BTC is compared to USD and all of those networks have rather large gold or USD-related assets, because the ties to the US Dollar are so great. If I was a great cryptocurrency network, why would have all my backing in a non-crypto-related avenue? That just sounds dumb. 

Ge_Yo

Safe “put it to work” can mean staking or using BTC as collateral. The trustless BTC vault approach is built around keeping BTC native and unmoved, with clear rule based terms, so it can support collateral style use cases without relying on wrapped versions.

OkZucchini5351

That 5/100 was printed at the time BTC was down to 60k. It's gonna update in a couple hours and it'll definitely be higher than 5.

Right-Caregiver-9988

I’m gonna stick to stocks… Apple alone has outperformed BTC over the last 5 years. I used to love SOL and LTC but crypto is too volatile, addictive and stressful for me. If I’m gonna HODL anything it’s gonna be a tangible asset.

Blueberry_Dependent

I try my best to DCA or bulk buy when I see a big drop. I'm still waiting for the price to reach mythical levels so I can accumulate more with less fiat. Whatever happens. At the end it's a long run game, I'm not going to sell anything at any price for the next 4 - 5 years that's for sure. For the stake I stake ETH (I know not many people are a fan of it). The goal was and still is to get some profit from it and with the money to buy more BTC, but my Bitcoin is mine. I don't want to stake it. For me it's like pension fund, only allowed to put money inside but not taking out except of its something very very important and those are my last funds. But this is too unrealistic to happen anyway. 

MonsutaReipu

When making comments like this, just show me your short position. That's all I ask. It's comedic when people base their analytics on whichever way the wind is blowing only once a hurricane starts. "Durr, don't you guys see, it was obvious this whole time?" Sure, then show me your position. Oh, this cycle is obvious? BTC is just going to keep crashing until October 2026 when it bottoms out, then it will pump again? Ok, show me your short position. It's free money, right? Just short it until October, take out a reverse mortgage to do it obviously since it's free money, then go all in on a long position for the next 2 years to follow. Who knew money could be so free?

TheSchnazDotCom

This is a real problem and it's not just Coinbase — I've seen similar delays on other platforms during volatile periods. When BTC drops fast, every hour matters if you're using it as collateral. A few things worth knowing if you're borrowing against BTC: 1. Always keep your LTV well below the liquidation threshold. Most platforms liquidate around 80-86% LTV, but if you can't move funds quickly (like your situation), you want even more buffer — I'd aim for 50% or lower. 2. Have collateral pre-positioned. Don't rely on being able to transfer during a crash. If your BTC is split across a cold wallet and a lending platform, make sure the lending side has enough margin to survive a 30-40% drawdown without needing a top-up. 3. Know your exact liquidation price before you borrow. Sounds obvious but most people just eyeball it. A liquidation calculator helps — I use this one: [https://www.trybitstack.com/tools/liquidation-calculator](https://www.trybitstack.com/tools/liquidation-calculator) The frustrating thing is exchanges have zero incentive to speed up transfers during drawdowns. More liquidations = more fees for them. It's worth planning around that reality rather than trusting they'll process things quickly when it matters most.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

No because even if one does a 2x, the other lost 50%+. After you buy a bunch and average it, you'd be better off just buying BTC, maybe some ETH. Also WAY less hassles of taxes and storage

innominategoat

I am actually surprised. With that much money in an asset why not take loans against it? No income tax needed and you can pass the BTC on to your heirs. At least the hemorrhaging has stopped for now....

NOneHOne

Wtf are you talking about?  This is clearly DCA.  Who actually sells BTC?  Buy every week and buy more on the dips, hold forever. 

CrAZiBoUnCeR

November 2023. My friend talked about bitcoin and bitcoin standard. I like reading so I said fuck it and got the book and read it on my way to Japan. When I got back from the trip I bought Bitcoin for the first time. Bought as much as I could until November 2024 but took a pause for buying house and needing the fiat. A few months ago I restarted a small, weekly DCA. Please note I was a stupid alt holder since 2017 with the “BTC too big. I can’t make billions”. Boy if only I started DCAing then lol

cizmainbascula

Nice. Also bought 0.1 BTC since that’s my monthly investment budget but I decided to pour everything into BTC now since it’s at a sale🤣 Just wondering: are you keeping everything on binance or you’re eventually moving to a cold storage?

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hryipcdxeoyqufcc

Point is that holding for five years make any volatility during that time irrelevant. At the end of the five years, either you’re up, or you’re up a lot. Doesn’t matter if it dipped 80% along the way. The last five years has shown that the SP500 in the best case is roughly on par with BTC in the worst case. And buying BTC at anywhere other than the top has massive upside over SP500. If held for at least five years.

LovelyDayHere

In what world can an exchange user just cash out 2000 BTC. Not happening, plus they're all KYC'ed, aren't they? It's not like anyone is going to get away with funds.

Ok-Barracuda39

Recently? BTC was pushing $130,000. Why didn't you sell then?

Langstudd

There are so many options in the volatility spectrum between BTC and bonds. This is a bit of a forced duality

piggleii

New BTC ATH next week.

InstaSwap_io

Shall I leave my wallet here also? Just in case someone wants to accidentally send me 2k BTC. Hahahaha.

Good-Book-6912

Cardano trying to larp as Bitcoin's sexy side chick for DeFi is the funniest timeline. There was a time when Cardano was supposed to be serious competition for BTC. Now they are just deepthroating the BTC maxis.

komokazi

2 Trillion? Since when, BTC ATH?

japsock

just woke up from being in a coma since 2021, congrats on the new BTC ATH! 70k+!

DBFargie

I still have my bags. 3 of 10 are underwater 50%+. SOL, ETH, and HBAR are my only profitable alts, and just barely at this point. Waited too long for the alt season that never really came. With that being said, I will not liquidate them. Many, like the three mentioned, along with my positions in LINK, ONDO, and even ADA I still believe will do well… eventually. I’ll only grab BTC from here until the market picks back up and hopefully I can break even or even sell those for profit at some point.

maltokyo

I am a Nigerian Prince, and I specialize in investing in crypto exchange startups! Finally, a project with a solid whitepaper and a clear roadmap. "I’m collecting Bitcoin" is honestly the most transparent business model I’ve seen since FTX. It’s refreshing to see someone skip the technical jargon and get straight to the "give me money" phase of the rug pull. Tell you what, I actually have $45 million in unclaimed inheritance currently stuck in a cold wallet because I lost my seed phrase in a tragic boating accident. If you can send me just 0.25 BTC to cover the "blockchain transaction verification fee," I will personally fund your entire exchange. We can call it **RoyalRugSwap**. I’ll even let you be the CEO while I handle the liquidity management from my palace in Lagos. Just DM me your private keys and your mother’s maiden name so I can start the wire transfer. To the moon, brother!

LevelSea9227

So are you aggressively shorting BTC right now, or just talking out of your ass?

Brisas787

BTC might never come back

I_argue_for_funsies

That's part of the problem, everyone equates tokens to dollars. MC is a shitty metric but it's the one that caught on and the measuring stick was created This is why projects went to great lengths to push circulating supply via "locked tokens". "Vesting periods". "Tranches" etc etc. All ways to manipulate that number. Transactions, new wallets, user numbers, dev counts, GitHub commits, personnel, partnerships, and of course, THE USE CASE should all be taken into consideration in trying to establish value. It's not perfect by any means, but need a combination of measuring sticks to get a true projects value. There was a time when just creating a whitepaper on a BTC talk thread was legit lol. We've come far.

crakinshot

Look, it's bread and butter tactics to engage within the community to advance your position. Jim Cramer admitted that is _exactly_ what he does, they even give him a TV show (or did) to do it; where he takes out a position, then advocates the opposite. There is literally a video of him admitting it. Every legitimate trader here needs to understand this is what happens. Long Traders will way its going to moon so they can ofload onto new buyers. Shorter will say its going to 0, to buy as people panic sell. This has been going on since Victorian era... and now it's X bots... the truth is that BTC is likely just following the same patterns, and now it'll crab +-10% for a year... Just go back 4 and 8 years, same shit...

PURpleVAuLt714

How do you guys decide when to sell? Do you pull the trigger based on a target price? Or when the coin hits a particular profit %? Like, when my BTC increases by 30% I sell? Or when my BTC hits $100k? I mean, at some point you HAVE to sell, otherwise what is the point, die and leave it to someone else in your will?

gentryb_1

2000 BTC is insane lol. wonder how many people immediately withdrew before they noticed. probably gonna see some wallets frozen

ra246

Yeah, I sold half of my BTC and basically *everything* else at $100k. I'm very happy to see these dips. I'm positioned and I know what I'm buying and when. 4 years ago I was a bag holder, with many coins down 60-90% (fortunately nothing more than $200 into the vast majority of them) This time I'm not a bag holder! Can't wait for the next run..

Trick_Dragonfly460

Math about how small blocks kill Bitcoin. But I guess if you're only in it for the money you don't have a clue about the context. Just remember, BCH is the actual champion of the crypto use case. BTC was crippled to being mostly a speculative toy, and I hope it goes to 0 just so crypto can have a chance to restart and have people actually care about its use case.

northcasewhite

You can get 6% in stocks long term or even BTC. Nothing has out performed BTC since Nov 2022.

Andres_995

Finally someone rational here. Greedy cunts don't understand that even a 2x in a couple of years is not the usual in the stock market. BTC did like 7x from top to bottom in 3 years.

RandomJoe7

Wait, there's still people who don't zoom out max on BTC chart and realize this is just the typical 4 year cycle all over again? But wait... let me guess... "it's different this time"? No, it's literally not, it's just the same bear/bull cycle as 2021, 2017 etc. Who is sitting in the US white house has never had an effect on it... I get that end of last year, when a lot of people (including me), made posts saying "you should sell, the drop is coming and bear market is here to stay), there was still people who "didn't believe it". But now? How can you now look at the chart and not see the obvious pattern? If you can't see it, you probably shouldn't be investing into any of this.

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azdcaz

Exactly. He also has his own BTC stack but we’ll probably never know his cost basis on that.

Upstairs_Report_788

Please tell me you received an amount corresponding to the value of the BTC at the time of the sale, not at the time of the transfer?

Ztoxed

Honestly stay away form subs that pump BTC and others. They all want you cash and make up fantasy stories and wealth and riches in the future. Needs to be laws from group doing that kinda crap. Sucks, truly does OP. Sorry to hear this.

Junior-Guitar-3058

Regardless if it in or not I can’t wait to see bears get rekt. Im already retired, my BTC is is just fun money. The tax loss harvesting rules in crypto are unbeatable worse case if goes down just sell and repurchase and take the tax break.

Abject-Stretch-1187

I’m guessing you didn’t detect the sarcasm. I’m clowning you for thinking we don’t all know that BTC isn’t perfect but that’s not a good enough reason for you to be a weak handed investor. 

Anthony18555

We're in a 1 year bear market, BTC works on a 4 year cycle 3 up 1 down, if you haven't lost much yet I would sell unless you plan to hold longterm and depending on how much money you have invested (Not financial advice) next bull will start most likely end of year if not 2027 depending on economic conditions amd what not so Oct 2026-Feb 2027.

Erasmus_Tycho

Oh that's right, BTC came before the market. 🙄

Abject-Stretch-1187

And how many people use BTC to store value? You know, the thing money is also supposed to do lol Listen enjoy your fiat, you will love it. 

pbybel

honestly when everything pumps together its just BTC momentum + everyone piling into leverage. fundamentals barely matter in these runs. sei's been moving nice tho feels undervalued still

JKimRX

You’re lacking some reading comprehension here. Mark my words, BTC won’t dip to $38 - if it does then BTC is broken, as it goes far below the minimum linear regression power law support, which is $53K right now. Been in BTC since 2019.

biophysicsguy

When you have a long term outlook these drops are fire sales. The longer they last and the deeper they go, the more BTC you can accumulate

Informal-Ad220

I no longer trade on Coinbase, but I do recall any time I deposited ACH funds to trade, Coinbase had a 7-day holding period before I could make a withdrawal. Now I trade on Kraken. Several months ago, Kraken lifted their 7-day holding period from my account. Now I can deposit cash, trade, and withdraw my BTC in less than 24 hours.

songbolt

Is it technically possible to 'claw it back'? Does BTC have a mechanism now to reverse transactions?

bloodd1

Have you not noticed every cycle it has dumped 60% ? BTC wasn’t broken it’s a cycle.

satoshi1022

Stop paying attention to anyone that wants to talk about 'crypto'. YouTube, reddit, influencers, whatever. My actual advice, ignore everything and leave it alone. It'll rebound. Literally just ignore it. Look at historical charts to make you feel better. It's hard to see it during a dip, but it's an obvious cycle. Things tank for months or years, and somewhere around the next halving of BTC everything will shoot the moon again. Stay hot, get morons to buy in, etc and then eventually tank again. Rinse repeat. Sure maybe it'll all go bust finally, but that's not my bet and I've been around much longer than a subreddit existed for crypto bros and wall street bets. It's a cycle. It's hard to see, but wait years and it'll shoot back up. Buy more BTC if you can stomach it even. But stay away from alts, bad scammy morons pretending they are useful and insightful, a tale as old as time. BTC, ETH or get out of this space.

PerceptionOk8543

They don’t like it because you tell them the truth. Average bitcoin buyer with 0 iq that can’t comprehend simple patterns. You are 100% correct, BTC is going to 30k and will sit there for the next 4 years. All those people crying in the comments will get filtered out while I will make money again :D

hortic97

The only people losing real money are those selling BTC, no matter what they paid for it. Otherwise, the rest of us still have the same number of sats we did yesterday, unless we bought or mined more. 

blaziken8x

I've got some stellar lumens, doge, ltc and eth and it's been all moving pretty much with BTC. I thought about just converting them to BTC, but there is no point in selling low and if BTC goes up, they'll move with it.

FnAardvark

Go to coinglass and look at the funding, it's STILL negative right now by a significant amount. This wasn't manipulation, this was bears fomoing in all the way down to 60k, and now they're trapped. Nobody was selling spot BTC at 60k, just bears borrowing it and selling to short. When that many shorts pile in, the funding swaps to negitive meaning they have to pay they longs to keep their position open. As the price has been going up, the funding is STILL going down, because shorts continue to try to call the top. They are getting squeezed hard today. This isn't manipulation, it's literally market dynamics.

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OpticallyMosache

No lol Just looking out for anyone that emotionally sold yesterday and then gets tempted to emotionally buy back today. One thing I think could help antsy holders is to transfer BTC into a cold storage wallet. This adds a barrier to make you pause before selling. It's always going to be better if you never sell. If you do sell, chances are you'll never buy back as much as you had. Bitcoin shouldn't be traded. It should be accumulated and held for as long as possible.

That_Jicama2024

This one time, BTC was at $125,000 and then it WENT ON SALE to $70k

CT4nk3r

Damn I wish SmartBCH wasn’t a big scam back in 2022, I love the initiative though compared to normal BTC

l_work

Let me tell a sad story I bought a lot of Bitcoin when it was a bit less than 2 dollars. Not to invest, just to buy drugs. By a lot I mean around 50BTC/month. then the price skyrocketed and I had like 1BTC only. Quickly it reached above US$100 I rejoiced and bought more drugs with the last bitcoin I had, ending with a round zero in my wallet. The end.

samiamyammy

I went short at 68,800 thinking it was a fake recovery kind of move 😅 I literally bought the BTC planning to go long, but played too many games bridging and swapping (to get ready for using this DEX) and missed my intended entry 🙃.. I'm under water now, lol.

Blockchainauditor

You asked if Bitcoin might drop 50%. On October 6, 2025, it hit a high of $126,080 US. Yesterday, it hit low of $60,256 US. That's a 53% loss. Are you asking if it might lose ANOTHER 50%? If you are serious about investing in BTC, consider dollar cost averaging (DCA); do not put $1,000 in all at once, but in regular intervals. You will get more BTC when the price is done less when it is up, but be better able to deal with price variability.

frozengrandmatetris

these opcodes are important to someone, but apparently not the BTC community

jewellui

Any idea if those who transferred the BTC/funds would have to give it back?

Accomplished-Cow769

Sentiment always wins lol. Cheapskates calling for $40k won't get it. BTC is going to most trade between $52k-$72k until next year.

Strong_Swimming_1304

"American news this, macro Economics that, blah blah blah". You just need to follow the liquidity and understand how market makers manipulate the price of BTC to liquidate traders. Not saying 60k is the bottom but I entered long at 60k.

ZUU_Music

Fair enough. I sell everything in Q4 post-halving year and buy back 1 year after the top. Its more than doubled my BTC holdings twice now across two cycles. I obviously never time the exact top and bottom to the very dollar but its been an excellent strategy so far.

Junior-Guitar-3058

Can’t wait for the short squeeze back up. Bitcoin's daily Relative Strength Index (RSI), which is a popularly used momentum oscillator that assesses whether an asset is oversold or overbought, flashed 17.6 (on a scale of 0-100) on Thursday — heavily oversold conditions that were topped in the modern BTC era by the Covid crash in 2020, when it fell to 15.6, and the 2018 market bottom, when it dropped to 9.5.

cizmainbascula

Instruction unclear. Bought 0.1 BTC at ~65k

Scum_turbo

Is this caused by borrowing again BTC or buying it with margin? I dont typically use credit so im not sure what this means.

Zelarto

Each user has received 2,000 BTC. [https://www.imaeil.com/page/view/2026020623482727995](https://www.imaeil.com/page/view/2026020623482727995) So technically about 200k+ BTC were given

BallBearingBill

With the speed of execution and pooling of BTC, it can happen much faster than stock sell offs. Anything is possible without a fundamental floor.

Guachito

Apparently it was 2,000 BTC total, but the point still stands.

Guachito

It was 2,000 btc per user that received the reward. And the ensuing sell-off made the price in their exchange fall 10% below the global price. Saylor sells off of exchanges and over the counter, so it doesn't affect the price. 130M won't move the global price either, but multiple people selling 130M will crash the price within the market as everyone keeps selling cheaper and cheaper, so they can quickly get rid of all the BTC and proba ly move it to privacy coins to hide the assets.

OpticallyMosache

Did my first conversion of VTI to IBIT in my Roth IRA. Proud owner of 100 IBIT (proxy for real BTC) The way I view it is I have enough native BTC to capture the value of holding a truly bearer asset on a permisionless monetary network. These BTC should never be sold. But then there's an aspect of wanting to ride the upside of BTC's price appreciation. Holding something like IBIT provides this plus I get a 1099 issued if I ever sell which makes tax reporting easy. Anyway, always felt IBIT was wrong but it's not necessarily wrong if you're buying some BTC for NGU technology.