BTC

Paddy2015

BTC is really committed to the bear market bit

CoinEnergy

Don't sell at a loss, lol. Bitcoin is for centuries. Better think about money flow and get some extra income sources to acquire more. Just get a savings plan into BTC and chill your eggs. Disable notifications and keep your inner peace. Keep as much fiat as you need to live comfortably; the rest shall work for you. Just test the markets out; divide into proportions as you believe and trust. Gold, Stocks, ETFs, crypto, REITs? Let the savings plan run for a while and check the results later; adjust proportions. In the end, Bitcoin isn't growing; it's the fiat which is failing. Stocks are worth the idea, people depend on property, and fiat has a limitless supply. Bitcoin is also an idea and we're still in the beginning of it.We didnt even got to use it yet properly. In Venezuela, they use gold rn to buy goods because their fiat X failed. We use fiat Y, and for some reason, we trust it. BTC is more convenient for payments also.Its a good emergency plan too. You gotta have the infrastructure for that, though. 1/2 of the world does. My proportions are 40%Reits to ensure moneyflow 40% Crypto ( 80% BTC 20% -SOL , and other Meme-Coins) 10% Gold 10%Stocks (mostly AI and automatisation for now) But im not far away from just full yolo in BTC all in. Sincerely S

tungfa

Prices for fancy watches are way down , calculate if u make u “rolex” money back u put in - if yes = definitely BTC

EddieD1234

I bought $600 worth of BTC at $2000 but sold it because I got scared.

Previous-Border-8283

So last 4 years the s&p 500 has overperformed compared to BTC. Nice

Sudden-Dingo-9722

I used to play a game on a website where they had an option to redeem points in BTC. Not sure what was the name of it but I had redeemed it for 0.47 BTC. It was like free money…That site went offline and I lost the address. 🫠 good old days.

No_Difficulty7633

Have never used Grok? No worries response is below: Bitcoin. Reasons: • Fixed supply (21M cap) → hardest money, proven deflationary. • Perfect scarcity + divisibility + portability + verifiability. • 15+ years of network effects, liquidity, and security (hashrate > all supercomputers combined). • Survived every attack cycle; now held by institutions, ETFs, nation-states. • No counterparty risk if self-custodied. • Historical CAGR ~200% since 2009; best long-term store of value in recorded history. Gold is slow and custodied. Fiat inflates 7-20%+/year. New money I create has zero network/value; takes decades to bootstrap trust. For long-term value retention while benefiting humanity: accept/create work valued in BTC, hold BTC. Nothing else competes.

jsh63

Boomer here. Tomorrow will be the 12th anniversary of my fist BTC buy.

RandomJoe7

If you're lucky we might see a dead cat bounce soon to get somewhat close to your buying price, but other than that, you're going to have to wait a couple years to get back to your purchase price. BTC is going to go down to 50k or so in the next 1-2 years, and in 3-4 years will go to new ATH (but much lower ATH than you'll read about in the media... none of this "BITCOIN TO 1 MILLION SOON!!!" bs...).

riscten

15-ish BTC? Not bad. A lot of people could retire out of this immediately.

jujumber

I bought a dog bed from overstock.com for .3 BTC to prove to my Ex wife that bitcoin has actual utility.

iamjide91

Even if BTC enters a prolonged bear or consolidation phase, that doesn’t mean all crypto slows down. Networks with real world use cases, like AIOZ, continue growing through the cycle. We have others building too. Participate in projects like GRASS, etc. Adoption and usage keep moving forward regardless of price action.

Wesinator2000

I once owned 15 BTC, bout in early 2010, for like a total investment of $200. Gambled and spent most of it away. Too young, too dumb to understand what I was doing and I beat myself daily for it.

ieatmoondust

What if we broke the 4 year cycle last December when BTC peaked, and we're now only just a few weeks away from the typical year-later bottom? The worst is almost over!

ieatmoondust

If you're still young enough to have recently still had a grandmother, your BTC will 20x by the time you are retirement age.

RandomJoe7

I'm so glad I stopped listening to people like you in the last cycle. The same voices "the cycles are over, it's all different now!" cost me a lot of money in the past. This cycle I did it different... bought at the bottom of the bear a couple years ago, sold a month ago near the top. One day I zoomed out on the BTC chart and it struck me as so obvious "this looks so much like 2021 again, it's going to drop soon, I'm getting out". Voila, within a few weeks now, I would have lost 30%. Instead, now I have a lot more money, and I can rebuy again next year when it's lower again. Maybe my strategy will be wrong this time, but it sure as hell wasn't wrong the last time - even though a lot of people like you kept saying "the cycles are over".

CheesecakeIcy3023

I already own a house. no mortgage, no debts, pretty good life. I’m in my 40’s. I think it’s good to have both hard assets and digital assets to hedge against inflation. I have both gold and BTC. My child will inherit everything. I just come here to bitch about the current market, it’s been brutal.

beanbalance

sadly I cleaned my old comments (this one it was about how my mind is blow that people saw btc pump from liker 15k to 125 and arent selling now and that this can only go down) BUT just coming back to lol at you. That was when BTC was still 115K+ BTC maxis loled,. and now it dumped to 85k it I am loling at comment like yours.

Impossible-Weight852

This is/was already a $2T asset class. It takes a lot to move it. Don’t expect future performance to be anything like the past. You’ll just be kidding yourself like all the influencers who put out content saying 0.1 BTC is a big deal and you’ll be able to buy a house with it. If you bought in 2013 you should be doing fine, no need to panic, unless you need money.

Adept-Ad-738

If you’re posting crap like this, and not celebrating the opportunity to stack more BTC - you don’t understand BTC / you shouldn’t be here in the first place

stackedinsats

DCA do not drop all your money in one shot. There's many exchanges to buy BTC. Be aware of the spreads.

Adept-Ad-738

Federal reserve about to print over $2 trillion so wait and see how high BTC pumps in the next rally. It’s going to start getting insane. US is on the edge

fifibag2

BTC is in the Epstein files. No joke.

jwz9904

Bloomberg just report 11 straight days of lower lows for BTC. We are again on MSN!

Impeesa_

The BTC halving is a real thing though, which affects both the total new supply and the price at which large-scale miners need to sell.

CheesecakeIcy3023

Someone called me stupid for buying bitcoin. I stopped telling people about my BTC journey.

CheesecakeIcy3023

Yea, BTC is the way to go. Have you looked at other layer 1 projects? I wish I had bought Solana when it was $35 in 2023. I bought Kaspa instead. KAS will rally someday, but not anytime soon.

Pfaerd

FIAT is superior to BTC

SevereArrivals13

Hey at least with the staking of Moons on Teller I am earning a 20% APY while waiting for the market to recover Buying more BTC, ETH and Moons too

pterodactylwizard

Time in the market > timing the market. If you like BTC at a specific price and want to lump sum into it, that’s your call. It might be beneficial, it might not. One strategy that has always worked is DCA.

Jonyesh-2356

2 BTC ETF & rest go to Index fund . 10 yrs wait time & you flip it for 3 houses 😎✌️

GenuineErsatz

Once China revealed at the end of October 2025 that the US government stole $780 million worth of BTC from a Chinese citizen with terrifying ease, the market has been imploding ever since.  Anyone who still thinks their crypto is safe is fooling themselves—your digital assets can vanish in an instant, stolen by anyone, be it a government or a private hacker, and there’s nothing you can do to stop it

metwoto

I invest in BTC and one rule I follow is: Is BTC growing? Hold it. Is BTC falling? Buy it. Is BTC staying same? Watch it. Never SELL it. Only INVEST in it.

WatermelonCheeks

I owned 70 BTC in 2016 and 2017. Buffet made comments that made me worry so I sold. Regret is a waste of energy. Learn and move on.

GenuineErsatz

Once China revealed at the end of October 2025 that the US government stole $780 million worth of BTC from a Chinese citizen with terrifying ease, the market has been imploding ever since. Anyone who still thinks their crypto is safe is fooling themselves—your digital assets can vanish in an instant, stolen by anyone, be it a government or a private hacker, and there’s nothing you can do to stop it.

fairlyaveragetrader

What exactly is the plan with you religious types anyway? Like I've had I don't even know how many BTC over the course of the time that I've been in it, enough to pay off a house, build up a good fund. It's been a rewarding but I realize I'm trading psychology. If I just held the entire time it would have destroyed my mental health which is what's curious about so many of you guys and my working theory on why you get so religious. But if you're from a working class background and say you get up to maybe 10 or 15 btc, we go on another run, above 100K again, 150k maybe, you just going to sit there and stare at it? That's enough to buy you a nice property, give you the ability to work less, completely change your life? Lot of you guys don't seem to think that out

Key_Maybe_719

I believe so, we're getting closer to bitcoin being usable in DeFi with the help of new tools and bridges emerging, including platforms like jumper exchange that make moving BTC into DeFi much easier and faster. It’s not fully seamless yet, but the progress in the last year has been way faster than before.

DwightsShirtGuy

No crypto. Only BTC. Also yes.

bucketzBro

Because the dip isnt over... im holding out for the USA civil war before I start investing in BTC

CheesecakeIcy3023

Owen Gunden bought BTC in 2011, now he’s a billionaire

Reasonable-Alps8577

Yes id do the opposite of DCA. 0.01400 BTC for a li f time

wodes

Have a look at subreddits like r/fatfire or canadian finance subreddit. Be responsible. Allow a fraction of what you have in BTC. You may have people that depend on you financially (kids, family etc). What do you do if you buy now, and then BTC goes to 20k?

SeaworthinessSad7300

ok break it down for me? You sell IBIT and buy BTC and the IRS dont consider it to be buying the same thing. Maybe USA is more loose but here in Australia the ATO will look and see if its effectively the same thing. They would consider an ETF of gold to be the same as buying gold bars. I have read their content on this and if its effectively the same underlying asset they wont let you get away with it

Material_Exercise_10

I dont DCA through the drop, at least for now, I only do it when BTC is at 60K or lower, we will se who is the dumber.

The_Nothing00

If he were a true believer, no, he absolutely shouldn't have. He should've taken a loan out with his BTC as collateral instead. Clearly, that whale had no faith in BTC being anything other than a ponzi.

CheesecakeIcy3023

no, because I’m hodling until 2030. When I first bought BTC in 2023, I made a decision to Hodl for 7-10 years.

Suspicious-Cut3237

Either $60k or $70k... Sure hope your gut is right though, cuz if that happens I am selling everything and going all in on BTC... I'm prepared to live in a tent for the next 5 years if I have to...

SeaworthinessFit3721

If you think that it will drop down to $40k then switch to BTC to usdc and buy back when it dips, instead of holding while it drops another $45k. If anything, set your stop loss like 5-10% under break even, but if you think the dip will continue then get out and rebuy later. I do think we get a December pump though

VariatCA

Wow an entire $1 Billion? Damn I can't believe the market didn't completely collapse from that. ...Oh wait I can. Barely two months ago an old whale cashed out 80,000 BTC in under a week for over $9 billion, and the price only moved from 118k to 115k. BTC has been doing 120-140 Billion in volume nearly *every single day this month*.

Notrustjustverify

Been stacking since 2016 and yes the 4 years cycle is real, even though I don’t care about it because I only see sats as sats.  However I must add that this formula might not apply as accurately anymore because now Wall Street is involved massively, and following this cycle timeframe many people will short BTC and that means money to be made on the upside.  Just be watchful and remember BTC always rewards patience. Have a nice day/evening.

CheesecakeIcy3023

90% of people make money, because they Hodl. OG whale bought BTC and hodled for all these years. I will continue to Hodl. Hodl. Hodl. Hodl. DCA and Hodl. DCA and Hodl.

MariachiArchery

I've sat out too many bear and crab cycles. When we started to take off towards 100k, I thought to myself "I'm going to be ready when this pulls back." My investment strategy going into this most recent bull market, was to catch the falling knife. So, what do you guys think? What do you have as the bottom for BTC and ETH? How much further y'all think this knife is going to fall? I'm thinking like 60k/2k. What do you got?

Aurorion

Maybe. With BTC self-custody, that's definitely a possibility, especially if you don't have people you trust completely both in terms of integrity and technical competence. In that case, he would probably have recycled at least part of the proceeds to Bitcoin ETFs though.

tornavec

Bruh, BTC is gonna dump the whole time Trump's in office. Stop waiting for a rebound.

The_Nothing00

150k? This time last year they were predicting $350k BTC right around now.

Simke11

I mean they are kind of "right" every bear market, while at the same time they watched BTC go from $100 to $125,000

The_Nothing00

So I just heard a Satoshi era whale recently cashed out over a billion dollars worth of BTC. Is that the nail in the coffin? Were the buttcoiners right all along?

Material_Exercise_10

Ok, hold BTC to ETERNATY while the whales dump it on you and ur kind all the way down. Sound like Wealth accumulation, it's just not for you.

bbatardo

You might get a chance to buy that low again if those BTC treasury companies start to collapse. I wouldn't rush to spend all your cash right now.

LLCoolRS

I see a lot of people claiming there is no more 4 year cycle. But for that claim to be true....we need to see the pattern broken! An example of this would be next year 2026 is NOT a bear market, and in fact puts in a new BTC all time high. But the pattern has NOT broken!!!! As of today..... The Oct bitcoin high EXACTLY FITS THE 4 YEAR CYCLE TOP TIMEFRAME!!!!!! So the idea of the 4 year cycle no longer exists is just.... an "idea". Just like any other idea that hasn't proven itself. Like plan-b's idea that this bull run will have a top price of $500k, not $125k. Like tom Lee's idea of 10k eth this cycle. Just..... Ideas. Whereas... the chart is showing you a $125k current cycle BTC top. 4 years after the last cycle top. The 4 year cycle is currently intact. Until it shows us prices above $125k, proving the bear market has NOT begun.

Zebatoken

Congrats man! 🎉 Love seeing people stack consistently like this — it really shows discipline. I’m also trying to buy small amounts whenever I can. Some days even a few dollars, because most of my energy is going into a small charity-driven crypto project I’m helping build called ZEBA Token, created to support struggling single mothers. Stacking BTC slowly while building something meaningful on the side feels amazing. Keep going — consistency wins in the long run! 🚀💛

phil_tek

Now you know to just DCA. When there has been a massive rally for the past year it was only a matter of time for a price correction. I even told another guy not to in a different post when he said he was going to put in over $200k in one shot when BTC was over $100k.

FreeBoss2824

They're gonna print their way out for now, transition to CBDC, implement UBI as AI demolishes the labor market and knowledge capital. What, how, and when you buy will be controlled, and BTC will be the only vehicle to sovereignty. Buy Bitcoin. It's inter-generational pristine capital that's finite. You should now be thinking about things like legacy, inheritance, anti-coercion features to fight duress/thieves, and the Bitcoin quantum threat. UnoLock is the way (disclosure: I'm associated with them). Once the control mechanisms are in place, we'll have very few pathways to break them. Bitcoin is one of them. Maybe the only one that matters. In 50 years, explaining infinite money printing to kids will be like explaining why doctors used to prescribe cigarettes for asthma.

datcoolkiidd

Me sitting here with exactly 0.0001 BTC just to see what happens. Glad I didn’t invest more in it yet

davidvietro

It's like people that say 1 BTC = 1 BTC. Pure Cope

Sea-Reception-2697

No, What I'm actually saying is GO DO SOMETHING and stop looking at BTC price every day every hour like a crazy person. I've been hodling for years, saw that many times, just forget for a couple days or buy a couple more sats and move on.

Pretenderinchief

Riiiiiiiight....bc that's how every person who has their 401k invested should be doing, buying meme coins and shorting hyper leveraged crypto. Also, love the confidence in saying BTC would have done this without him. You can see Trumps pubes on your lips dawg.

duncwawa

Money printing around the corner. BTC to 200k 1/26 per my baby brother. Not Financial Advice.

bigtioenergy

Haven’t been around here long, huh? I’m sure when BTC peaked in 2021, a lot of folks would have highly doubted that it would take nearly 3 years to get back to that 2021 peak but that’s exactly what happened.

carsonthecarsinogen

People making those posts haven’t been in BTC for more than a few years, ignore them.

Material_Exercise_10

OK! Most people want to accumulate wealth, BTC price is dropping, so it isn't called waelth accumulation if you hold BTC right now!

chance_waters

People sell their softest money first, what do you even sell BTC for? Maybe property? BTC is a store of wealth, most people want to accumulate unless they actively need the money.

giiip

Fundamentally, something will have a value because their is a general consensus of future value. People keep USD because they know that in the future (tomorrow, in 1 year, when they retire,...) they will be able to exchange it for something of value (food, home,...). That expectation exists for BTC so it does have a value.

noviwu97

Felt good. I got to sell my BTC at ~$115k average and SOL at ~$250

nickeypants

Every retail store ever has a black Friday sale and it's a good thing, but BTC does it this one time and everyone is unhappy? Make up your mind!

suitguy25

I feel kinda lucky. I got in right around ATH, and also bought now that it’s lower. I am buying 100 a week, and will not sell, no matter what happens. The 100 I add each week is to cover me in my older age. I am 37, and, if family genetics are a good prediction combined with poor life choices in my younger years, I will live till about 75 tops. I’m halfway done with life, and if I just keep putting a set amount in, I feel very confident I will have a nice nest egg for when I’m old and on my own. I have no children, and am living quite frugally, so I feel very confident that by the time I’m ready to tap into my BTC it will be worth way more than it is now, and that’s before I keep adding a set amount. Just HODL, and trust in the long play that when you mention it to people sometime in the future years, they will all say “man I wish I had thought to do that!” But by then, it will be too late to emulate. THIS is that time to buy, and sow your seeds of capital, and in a decade or two, you will be so pleased you didn’t consider selling every time you read about it going down in price. It’s a roller coaster of a market if you watch what happens every 15 mins, it’s a great investment if you buy, shut up, and keep what you buy, even if it’s down later. Now is not the time to freak out and sell, it’s the time to freak out and buy.

okworm

I have a feeling BTC is about to go spike back over $100K soon. People are trying to drum up doubt to short like usual, but now it's extra fake hysteria. It's a useful sign.

Aurorion

Downsizing your largest holding and diversifying into other assets is perfectly normal, and is prudent financial management. But suddenly selling your largest asset _completely_ is not normal at all. Someone who bought into BTC in 2011 and held all this while is obviously a very smart person. Which makes me wonder why he really did this. Anyway - like you said, the rest of us need to just stack sats. While being smart about _our_ financial management.

Simke11

BTC treasury companies

sentrypetal

They will buy gold. BTC is a risk asset with almost zero correlation to gold. Gold was held by Kings, Emperors and Pharoahs.

sentrypetal

Gold is up 53% YTD. Bitcoin is -8.45% YTD. If you bought November 2021 at $67,000 today you made only 30%. If you bought gold November 2021 at $1773 it is now $4000. You more than doubled your money. So over last 4 year period BTC is a very very poor investment.

Simke11

Start of last bear BTC feel down roughly as much percentage wise as it has now in similar time frame. Over the next month or so it fell down to some 50% from ATH.

Aurorion

Downsizing your largest holding and diversifying into other assets is perfectly normal, and is prudent financial management. But suddenly selling your largest asset completely is not normal at all. Someone who bought into BTC in 2011 and held all this while is obviously a very smart person. Which makes me wonder why he really did this.

FreeBoss2824

2011 bought on Bitstamp for $23, crashed to $12. Thought it was a scam, panic sold it all and never looked back. Went on with your life broken and resentful. Years later you get a call from a mate - 'bro do you still have the Bitcoin you bought? It's $12,000.' WTF... You rush in. Can't believe you sold in 2011. Buy in. Let's gooo! Bang, $4,000. Lose it all. Sell again. Fuck, I'm out, never again. 2019: 'Haha suckers, COVID fucked everything, Bitcoin going to zero, so glad I stayed out.' Mate calls: 'Hey bro, Bitcoin's $69,000!' WTF! Kraken, hit buy. It's going to the moon, lambo soon. Bang, $18k. Kraken, sell. Fuck this, never again, I'm out. 2025: BTC from $125k to $80k. Me watching from my lounge chair, single, alone, and fedora'd up. 'So glad I didn't buy Bitcoin.' That's how it feels. Every. Fucking. Time. This is not a bear market, this is a drawdown by OG holders coupled with a liquidity crunch alongside the usual degen leverage monkeys creating Bitcoin's largest cascading liquidations ever. Don't be me.

Romanizer

The 80,000 BTC whale did that a bit better, but okay. Everyone has a different strategy.

VariatCA

Holding up well relative to BTC. It's basically been tagging alongside its price action for well over a month now, and one could make the argument that ETH has held up several support ranges sturdier than even BTC has.

Th3onib

Being down 17k and being down 35k is a big difference. It's nothing to people that have money in BTC that they don't need to mess with, problem is most people buy with the money they need. We will see 76k easy

VariatCA

It's not even the first time BTC's been down -30% this year lol

Reasonable-Alps8577

Lots! They are really confident. https://www.coinglass.com/pro/futures/LiquidationHeatMapModel3?coin=BTC&type=pair

Interesting-Sink-284

Yea lol. They think they can buy BTC and not have any drawdown. Every time I buy BTC it dumps afterwards and I have been buying since 2023 so in a total bull market. BTC fear and greed is just wild. Few weeks ago greed was off the charts and now it’s all over BTC is doomed. We only had a 30% correction.

VariatCA

The last time BTC was around 86k on the way down in March, ETH was still around $2,000. On the way back up on April 20th, ETH was nearly bottomed-out for the year at $1600. $2800 is holding up pretty well, all things considered.

HouseFun5243

You all forget that market stopped being connected with reality. Economy has been shit for a while, but market has been doing great. You can’t predict shit in environment like that. My guess is BTC is still a good long term investment, because it’s limited and government can’t just print more.

TherealCarbunc

Not sure what you mean by your first sentence. Frankly they can't buy rn because they've already bought higher and planned to use their BTC as collateral vs buy/sell from my understanding. Wouldn't their institutional selling be reported? If they crash their own market they'd get hammered by investors leaving their stock.

bimbobandit2016

Lol, you have to be the unluckiest guy in crypto. ETH pumped a couple months after you abandoned it, then BTC dumps a couple months after you enter. Just stable up and wait for the bear. Those who enter at the bottom are the only ones who win comfortably. Everyone else ends up squirming in their positions

VariatCA

Yeah it's a pretty strangulating rule change. I can't imagine how Strategy would work around that with it written as-is. It would either need a gigantic round of fundraisers/stock offerings and dilute their stock into the core of the earth, to raise like $30 Billion to buy *non-BTC* assets against their company's mantra, or selling off a ton of their BTC (or wayyyy more risky, borrowing against it) to diversify. This will of course hurt other companies like BMNR and the like.

FreeBoss2824

Don't trust anyone who DMs you. Get on Kraken Exchange. Transfer Canadian Pesos to Kraken. Buy BTC. Withdraw to Ledger/Trezor. Or, buy your pc and hummus. Good luck mate!

TherealCarbunc

Don't know the quotes, what are they from? but did he trigger it or just decide to sell out and not go through another cycle. there's been a lot more than 1.2k BTC sold off

ETHTradr

I’m praying $36-50k call me delusional I just want to buy BTC much cheaper for more

Lumpy-Category-3045

I mean, as long as you are buying as it goes down, doesn't it effectively do the same? I panic sold just north of 91k, ran with pretty big profits. regretted it immediately (both bc I missed the ATH and also BC last time I sold BTC was when it was $40 and I still blame that for my alcoholism). I now am reinvesting at 1k intervals with limit orders all the way down to 65k. SO far this week I feel like a genius. I'm sure this time next week I'll want to put my head through the wall.

2capshanker

You’re not wrong there, there are some stupid people around that’s for sure. But most people are good, and I’m just gonna keep hoping good things prevail…BTC is global so no matter how much the USA screw things up for themselves; a lot of people are catching on to sound money. I hope the best for you