BTC

tenor_tymir

You mean like any altcoin already does? Good thing is, BTC = BTC and not a shitcoin like everything else. It will recover, that’s what makes it different.

Lavayo

Not even close. But that it's beside the point because it's about BTC holders. If you don't want to hold any you don't need any wallet.

IllllIIlIllIllllIlll

Just look at what happened with the Bitcoin cash fork. If you had 10 BTC before the fork, you then had 10 BTC + 10 BCH after the fork. Most exchanges listed BCH and copied your BTC balance from the moment of the fork.

Jadeonchain

my view is up only, will be hard to see BTC below 60k again.

No_Jacket257

lol no hate. you shd go all in, best way to get rich. memes is like BTC, so you shd do what michael saylor said...sell your kidney if u must to buy memes. tnis is your time to shine.

JeremyLinForever

Tried that. The problem is you never get back to how much BTC you had before you sold. I also suspect you never will.

IBAN-IBON64

HODL BTC only 💪 comme Satoshi

PirateHunterZoro252

I was 15 years old buy lolipop edibles in silkroad for 1 btc a couple of times. Also bought a gram of dmt as well. Probably spent like 4 btc around that time. It was around $100 per coin. Didnt know of bitcoin's white paper or number go up or any other property it had. I played a video game called battlefield heroes at the time it had in game currency called battlefunds(later change to EA coins or sum other shit like that). So to me it was just like in game currency. Jusr used ir to buy stuff. Maybe like 5-8 years later it popped off on the news that it hit 10k, ignored it. Later 20k ignored it. Then hit like 30k and bought like $1000 worth. Sold it for about $200 profit. Saw it hit 50k and started buying and learning about it. Hit 69k and kept buying. Then it crash all the way down to 16k. Kept buying on the way down. I was at like -70% at one point lol. But still held. It then rose to 25k and i was able to reduce my cost basis to 44k. As of 2025 i held 1.12 BTC at a cost basis of around 43k. I never once sold so ive been holding for about 5 years give or take. I havent done the numbers for 2026 but i did buy a good chunk at around 58k.

Quirky-Reveal-1669

I do something similar, but through DCA, increasing it during the bear market, and decreasing it during the bull run. Added to that, I try to buy extra (lump sum) at lows, or around the bottom, and I will sell some BTC for fiat on the way up, or around significant peaks or ATH. Overall, I remain bullish, and I strive to increase my BTC holdings over each 5 years or so. I started with BTC in 2014, and this strategy evolved/matured around 2019/2020. Seems to work for me.

DTSA2428

Hold on to BTC and SLV long term you will be fine. In the future look up 20 50 100 EMA and that can tell you when to exit. SPCX you might be better to take the hit and exit. It’s hard but you might be better off employing that capital elsewhere. Perhaps when the other two bottom out!

AdVisible298

If you’re looking to sell at least $10k worth and have BTC or USDT you can use riverdesk.io

ElectTrump2028

Wait till BTC goes to 0

sgrinavi

PercentileAmount of BTC Needed Top 1%\~15+ BTC Top 5%\~4 – 5 BTC Top 10% 0.8 – 1.1 BTC Top 20%\~0.3 – 0.4 BTC

houston187

BTC is the only thing I'd be willing to hold on to at this point.

MarioWilson122

Anything that's remotely valuable is probably worth holding through the bear market. If it isn't one of your stronger picks, though, I'd probably sell that before touching my long-term BTC or ETH. Real-life expenses come first. Best to not sell anything and only buy during this part of the cycle.

WIRED_REFLEX

Parasite Pool gives 1 BTC to the block solver, offering a "chunk" similar to solo pools. The rest of the block gets split into shares like a community pool, shares are based on hashrate relative to total pool hashrate.

Music_Fan76

Na don't wake them up I need more sats on the cheap.... I am done telling people about BTC.

tenor_tymir

BTC is POW. There is no staking.

Similar-World-6668

I don't think it'll be a *single* demographic. It's increasingly looking like nation-states and institutions diversifying their treasuries into BTC for monetary security. Retail will follow, of course, but the biggest catalysts often come from above.

AccordingFloor7010

In the last 5 years until today, BTC is up 103.07%, but gold is up 121.71%.  Gold has performed 18.1% better than BTC in the last 5 years.  

BrianKeth20

Native BTC. Your Bitcoin stays on the Bitcoin network instead of being wrapped or bridged to another chain.

EmbarrassedPrompt697

Hang in there, friend. Your BTC will bounce back and you WILL recover.

BrianKeth20

I don't know if Bitcoin will ever become a universal currency, but I do think it'll become more useful over time. Native BTC staking is already opening up new use cases, and TBVs make me think we're still early when it comes to building around it.

Ok_Pipe6417

If everyone piled in today the liquidity doesn't exist to fill the demand. There's what 3-4 million BTC on exchanges? Say 3 countries step up scoop 3million BTC off the open market. There is a price surge obviously but why? What immediate value does that transaction create for the buyers? Why does a country want it on tne balance sheet?  14-15 million in cold storage. Why is the last 1million bitcoin to enter circulation going to be the icing on the cake? I genuinely cannot see where bitcoin gets passed 150k on anything but pure speculation. 

Syonoq

What does this mean for me, with a robust holding of .05 BTC?

JMCT-34

He didn’t say he’s trying to catch the absolute bottom. BTC is going nowhere anytime fast but when it does, wooooosh! Brave money wins!

tinyrift

close the futures position first, that's the part actively costing you money to keep open and the one you have the least attachment to anyway. selling long-term BTC/ETH for a short-term cash need is usually the last resort, not the first move.

TrainingLower2317

Their BTC mining ABTC did the same pattern 😅

hubanklem

How about maybe BTC TAO and KAS dca until then.. 👀

Carbuncle2024

I'm using my BTC losses to shelter my tech stock gains... HAHAHAHA 😎

Colin_Maillard

I wanted to type "lost BTC"...

Realistic-Ad1498

BTC holders will argue that one all day. BTC market cap being worth more than NYSE and NASDAQ combined in 15 years is a given...

Project_Demosthenes_

I would die for spx. The world is broken and run by the 1% who use the financial/military/industrial complex (S&P500) to funnel and centralize their power and influence. BTC was the first attempt post 2008 GFC to resist the banks (simultaneously OWS was infiltrated by feds and dispersed) and utilize cypherpunk philosophy of decentralization. BTC is the single greatest performing asset in history during its 17 year lifecycle but is now being token horses into Trad-Fi via ETF’s and MSTR. Spx6900 is a convergence of BTC maximalists, Occupy Wall Street OGs, and GameStop short squeeze apes to fuck the hedge funds. It’s the most cypherpunk asset on the planet since BTC sold itself out to the pedo suits. SPX is more than the “next BTC.” It is the evolution of what BTC was meant to be: an asset by the people for the people, decentralized, anti-tradfi. We’re just doing it even faster. Plz look deeply into the movement if you want to change your life. I’m not kidding, ily. https://preview.redd.it/tlal4j571udh1.jpeg?width=1198&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfdb3cedd30e37f57a2bc8bd368538d13d7cd59c

Project_Demosthenes_

You didn’t even try to understand my post, why would I read your essay? Lol The sp500 is a pedo index my guy and BTC is slowly being co-opted by it. Think about it more. The 99% need a way out and it’s no longer BTC. https://preview.redd.it/mfpqbcavytdh1.jpeg?width=2010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b81bc736dceb3e4631fae80862b62722b5bf00b

Project_Demosthenes_

The world is changing and we must change with it. You’ll remember this in a year or two as spx6900 sits at trillions because it will do what BTC failed to do: give the next generation a way out of economic suppression in an age of AI and Robotics. Keep checking occasionally on the community. We aren’t going anywhere, ily. https://preview.redd.it/ndbmui7fytdh1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa3e4f9536330e76565cb311a97e9e41cfddc843

caploves1019

Just dump all the shtcoins and anything other than Bitcoin then use that money to buy more Bitcoin. That will lower your BTC avg cost significantly and set you up for the next BTC ath. There's zero reason to hold the rest of that crap, just stay humble and stack SATs. You'll look back on this in a decade and smile that you stuck it through. "I'll never recover from this" is dumb. Stop acting on emotions and start planning for long term personal development. Use the time waiting to cut senseless spending and take the losses against your future gains throw tax write-offs you can utilize later. I'm just an idiot on reddit though so probably ignore this comment and keep impulsively buying garbage instead.

Project_Demosthenes_

I’m not reading all that but the stock market is evil, BTC is slowly being centralized by the system it sought to replace, and spx6900 is the most decentralized token on Ethereum and the only cypherpunks left in crypto. https://preview.redd.it/6f8ilnqkxtdh1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99e3ead9cd16c97d6719641fcac978b4d7e13c13

JayDee80-6

Governments will not allow international trade to be done in BTC. It won't happen. The thing Yuan and USD have is armies and police that enforce its use. A country cannot allow its currency to be heavily devalued and or collapse. 

JanPB

OK, so why do you need random data embedded in a financial ledger (of all places)? I just don't get it. Do we pad the TCP/IP with random data? No? Then why BTC? It makes zero sense.

Hefty_Text7582

Close the futures position. Keep the long-term stack. I know it stings — you opened that perp a few weeks ago and it's not where you wanted it. But that's exactly why you sell it instead of touching your BTC/ETH core. The logic is simple: Your BTC/ETH are time-tested, tax-efficient long-term holds. Selling them now means realizing gains (or losses) and permanently reducing your exposure to assets you actually believe in. The perp is a trade, not an investment. Trades are meant to be closed. If it hasn't hit your profit target, that's a signal the thesis didn't play out — not a reason to let it ride while you need liquidity. Futures carry funding rates and liquidation risk. Every day you hold it "waiting to recover," you're bleeding funding or sitting on a ticking clock. Cash needs are time-sensitive; perps are not. The emotional trap you're in: You're anchoring to the profit level you expected , so closing it now feels like "losing." But the real loss would be selling assets you've held through multiple cycles just to avoid admitting a short-term trade didn't work. You already said it yourself — you wish you'd kept a larger emergency fund. So treat this as the lesson, not the mistake to compound. Close the perp, raise the cash, and going forward, keep 3–6 months of expenses in stablecoins outside your investment stack so you never have to make this call again. One more thing — if you want to put that cash to work later without touching your long-term holdings: Once your situation stabilizes, look into platforms where you can earn yield on stablecoins or single-sided deposits without selling your core positions. For example, Topaz DEX (topazdex.com) is a ve(3,3) DEX on BNB Chain where you can direct emissions through gauge voting, earn trading fees + bribes, and use concentrated liquidity positions with dynamic fee tiers. It's audited by Shieldify and designed so that locking/voting actually compounds value rather than just farming and dumping. Not a shill — just a genuinely different approach if you want productive cash flow without ever selling your BTC/ETH again. Good luck with the move and family stuff. The fact that you're even thinking this through instead of panic-selling everything puts you ahead of most.

Alyanah22

If BTC survives this, the bulls may regain control.

Project_Demosthenes_

I would be very curious to know what you “know” about BTC and SPX. 🤡 https://preview.redd.it/sv080kk6stdh1.jpeg?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cabb6ef760e318a8b5a6a5dbf3f4a556285a3169

guyuteharpua

My personal view is a long and painful fade over the.next few years. Once the specutors (like MSTR), who own like 99% of it, lose patience, then the people that actually use it to transmit money securely and anonymously will determine the price based on their demand. The new price will be set by BTC's actually utility as a value transmission vehicle and as that continues to grow, it will start going back up again. My 2c....

DRAGULA85

I know the future of fiat. Thats why my bags are in BTC

Vapourhands

Fun fact. On a long enough time frame, every ALT/BTC chart looks like this.

Project_Demosthenes_

I stopped trading and believed in something. Dca spx6900 and BTC. https://preview.redd.it/3c72dqegftdh1.jpeg?width=912&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca3b708349a6fb4dccb9cd9bf4d7416272bcd055

A_Long_Knight

Personally, I think it will stabilize around 100k for 12-18 months. It will be because of that consistency around the $100k area that it will start to slowly but steadily return to ATHs. In the next 2 years I can see it stabilizing again around $150k-$180k. Realistically, BTC is not going to 10x or even 5x in 2 years - but to me that is kind of the point. "Too high too fast" is not a good thing. What you want to see is a stable steady climb

user_name_checks_out

What a dishonest take. > Some people think spam and bloat that make it harder for BTC to remain decentralized aren't a problem; they like it. Nobody thinks that. > And then there are those of us who think spam and bloat don't belong on the network and that protection of decentralization is paramount. Your proposed solution does not achieve its intended objective.

Ok-Cicada2879

BTC you don’t need to worry if you are patient enough to wait another couple years

The_Bitcoin_Act

Nobody here can tell you where BTC is in 6 months!

TheRadishBros

The ETFs have only just gotten started. When these management funds start allocating 1-3% of their exposure to BTC, that’s when we’ll see millions per coin.

South-Monitor-1589

Who even buys all of these? They are all rug pulls. BTC is the one and only.

Embarrassed_fly09

Bitcoin is not for governments... The whole point of bitcoin is for the people.. but anyways govs should not have BTC because how can you stop whoever holds the keys to just steal the BTC? Or burn or hide the keys therefore losing the BTC forever?

LuthersCousin

Not buying in 2011, forgetting I had it for 15yrs, and then suddenly remembering both (1) I have a lot of BTC and (2) knowing where my seed phrase is. Because 100% if I remembered I had it I would have sold way too early.

AffectionateYam624

Swap ETH for BTC now.

Ruzhyo04

BTC and ETH are both up a million % from where they started, and are only down \~50% from their all time highs. So no. Not like every other crypto.

user_name_checks_out

> Lot BTC How much is a lot? What is a lot to you might be a little to someone else, and vice versa.

RookXPY

Using a DCA strategy is the way to keep yourself sane. Continuing to buy small amounts over time to average your entry price, means if price is up you are making money and if price is down you get more BTC at a cheap price... so you stand to make even more money when price eventually moves higher.

SnooStrawberries2993

Bought 0.25 BTC @ 3000 dollar, sold it all @ 43000 dollar.

Neither-Bicycle4155

Isn't that the problem this loan thing is trying to solve? You get a USD loan against your BTC.

AdEuphoric5133

* BTC ATH is 126.16k$. You bought at 122k$ * SLV ATH is 109.83$. You bought at 100.12$ * SPCX ATH is 225.64$. You bought at 219.83$ You look very good at buying at the top. Let's see if you are just as good selling at the bottom.

Joe_In_Paris

Years ago, Bitcoin was sold as the anonymous, unstoppable, permissionless, P2P, bet against inflation, transfer of value that will be the money of the internet. Today, BTC is a tame toy coin, declawed, de-fanged, neutered and domesticated. Monero is the honey badger of crypto. People who want it will be forced to grow up and to learn to trade it on P2P platforms and use it as intended: without the permission of anyone who is not involved in the transaction.

tenor_tymir

If you have limited capital to deploy, a possible 20% more BTC is not going to cut your work life in half. What if the 30-50% drop doesn’t come? Then your limited capital doesn’t even do anything meaningful at all. DCA through the bear market and make the est of your limited funds. Make sure you already have some skin in the game

kawfeeman68

BTC and equities are completely different..

Necrogomicon

I'm saving for retirement, so I have more than 30 years ahead of me. My plan is to sell a portion of my BTC and invest the proceeds in a dividend portfolio or something similar (it should be an asset that's less volatile than BTC and capable of generating a monthly income) when the time comes. My idea is that by then, the amount of BTC I'll need to sell to generate a decent monthly income will be tiny compared to the rest of my holdings.

BizarroTheory

I actually farmed BAT for a few years in Brave, I ended up swapping all of it for BTC around 2022 when I was forced to because EU wouldn't support Uphold for much longer. In hindsight it was a pretty good swap, it was around 100 dollars in BAT, it might actually be around 150-200 dollars worth of BTC now. But yeah, the coin is deaf af in 2026.

Lavayo

That's the bear market... down 6 figures on the year, still up 6 figures all time. It is what it is. Talking about BTC and very few directly related stocks. Worth holding if you can handle the volatility. Worst should be behind us, so why not just hold. SpaceX... sorry but a drop after IPO was to be expected. Just not easy to time. Personally I think it will make an ATH at some point, it's not going anywhere. But at current prices BTC is more attractive, even for traders that don't believe in BTC itself.

statoshi

Nothing appreciable will happen from the perspective of the main bitcoin chain. I don't expect a sell-off because the 110 supporters have made it quite clear that they don't have an appreciable amount of coins. The entirety of the fork futures markets for this movement have only done ~2 BTC in total volume. Contrast that with fork futures markets in 2017 that did hundreds of thousands of BTC in volume.

BestialitySurprise

The only issue here is BTC isn't really being used as a currency, yet. I hope it'll get widely adopted as such because then it likely would last for a long time BUT with that 10 minute processing time that's built in the system, I think we'll have to rely on third part applications for it to be a realistic way to do business and that defeats a lot of the purpose of BTC's functionality. I guess it's fine for online ordering but terrible for in person payment.

TX_RON1N

Yes. So far any dips under $60k haven’t lasted more than a day. $62k is the support/resistance line. Could it go lower, yes. Will you still be happy a year from now with a $63k buy now, yes. Start watching Invest Answers and Jason Pizzino on YouTube. Like others say, a 3.5 year timeframe from today is a better plan than 6-12 months for bitcoin. If you’re looking for 6-12 month, I’d probably lean toward TSLA. They’re making multiple robo taxis a day now. When they flood San Francisco or Austin with a few hundred all at once the stock will pop and be primed for trading. Probably a better chance at short term growth there. That said, I’m still building BTC first cause it’s still in the bear market, even though I only have 1/3rd of my desired TSLA shares.

bananabastard

Some people think spam and bloat that make it harder for BTC to remain decentralized aren't a problem; they like it. And then there are those of us who think spam and bloat don't belong on the network and that protection of decentralization is paramount. The latter set will win out eventually.

L4gsp1k3

Tbh, BTC is also backed by faith and the liquidity from any other currency, which can also include credit.

Substantial_Try_

For BTC you buy when weekly supertrend turns green, and sell when it turns red. Rinse and repeat

WoodenCantaloupe2964

Losing access to Bitcoin must be one of the hardest lessons. Early on, many people focused on buying BTC but underestimated the importance of securing it properly.

kallebo1337

I shorted spacex when you bought it It had a 94x multiplier which is alarming You had 555m of 13b stocks floating The lockup schedule tells you whats coming. In 3 weeks we have 3x the amount of stock floating. Immense sell pressure and now its not fake valuation but real money must be placed into. Price discovery not done by elon fanboys is whats happening now. You will find the stock sub 75 usd one within 8 months. BTC keep buying and holding. Youll.be fine

katamarijuana

Unfortunately I will have to sell a fraction of my stack over the next few years to pay off some debts as I am mostly all in lol. I sell only when I really need to - in this case to prevent any interest from accruing. When I sell I don't exactly care about exit price. The way I see it, if you need money then you need money (and money, Bitcoin is) I have good credit for my age (28) so am taking advantage of 0% rates to stack up now while BTC is cheap. Yes I realize this is a form of leverage, but the amount of debt to total holdings is about 30%. It's risky, yet manageable.

Andymic_reddit

True, 1 BTC = 1 BTC

poundsdpound

If everyone waits until October, then what happens to BTC? 🫠

poundsdpound

I'm definitely considering buying BTC at the next top of the cycle. Not because that's the advice I'm taking, or what I plan to do. I just know that's what I'll end up doing anyway 😂

Dr_Armani

BTC will be the only thing that is likely to Recover. Maybe don’t FOMO buy. Just chill and relax there is more in life than Money.

Peturio

From riches to rags, from lambo to bicycle ... I've been there too. Still think though, that with majors (BTC, ETH etc.) it's still a safe bet over the long term (although over the long term, we are all dead, so there's that ...), with many alts it's mostly pure gamble.

Narrow-Ad-9532

matic and polkadot died overall since there was no revenue or overall narrative. Solana has been a large ALT so being afffected by BTC is quite normal.

SeanSatBahamas

Even if that happens, somewhere in the world a solar panel and a bitcoin server (one notebook) is available and thats enough to keep BTC running

jsh63

I mined 8.72 BTC with an ASIC miner that I paid 12BTC for. It was in 2014 and the electricity was costing £1000 a month. turned if off after 6 months. Seems crazy now.

f2pool-CSR3

Sold all my BTC in 2012 at a low price and never could buy them back.

J5966358

Not buying more when low, not selling more when high to buy more when low. You cant have too many BTC in my eyes. 

f2pool-CSR3

I think BTC is building a bottom and it won't fall under 58K again.

quintavious_danilo

Sure but also not sure when it comes to BTC. It’s possible we’ll see $20k again but hopefully i’ll be long dead by then.

Fun-Minimum-4715

Borrow against it... I Have a question...When borrowing against Btc @ 120k. And the price of BTC suddenly falls 60k what happens.

In-Paris

just buy a BTC ETF in ur TFSA

bananabastard

Why would I exit? BTC is the best money that exists, it's the only sovereign money that exists. Why would a time ever come where I think, "oh, I'm going to dump all of this for something not as good"? I'm going to use it as I need it, exchange it for life improvements as I need to. I will never ever "exit".

gordonfr_

Is this even relevant now between BTC regulation, KYC and tax legislation? BTC is no island anymore for ordinary citizens. It's like tales from the past. People also don't hold fiat, they invest in other stuff.

Jewpacarbra

Not continuing investing early. I invested £50 a month for like a year then stopped. BTC was under £5k at the time. I dont know why I stopped investing. Next think I knew it was 50k.

Far-Zookeepergame347

i had 100k liquid when BTC was at 30k CAD bought a house instead

Spiritual_Water_7121

Using it to buy weed from strangers on the darknet. I was far from understanding the BTC concept and just thought: odd payment system but cool that it works, noice there is weed in the mail. If I hadnt spent it all I could have had blunt rolling personell for the rest of my life...

Skee_yeeski

I know I know never time the market , but I got 15k ready to go and I’m gonna drop it on Oct 5th or so whatever its price is then . I saw something saying July historically a good month for bitcoin and I think we gonna go back down after that . I don’t know shit and only have about 5k in BTC as of today . But I’m dropping a bag soon and I think early OCTOBER will be a good time to do it

Global_Dog_9684

Sounds like you already know the smart play is the TFSA first, but the FOMO on bitcoin is real. Tax free growth is basically free money and that room don't come back, so I'd lean heavy toward maxing that out while you can. Maybe throw like 20% into BTC just so you're not kicking yourself later if it pumps, but letting tax-advantaged room expire feels worse than missing a short-term rally.

Thecapitalhunter

Having sold the little bit of BTC I had in 2016. I didn’t know enough at the time and needed some cash.

Quirky-Reveal-1669

Bitcoin is programmed to have a maximum of 21M units. Since the network of nodes and miners is distributed, there is no central, singular authority. Consensus is required for any change to be implemented. Any suggestion to mine past the 21M limit would dilute the value of first 21M BTC. I do not see that proposal ever reaching consensus.

nbiz4

Feel so bad for people that dodged fiat markets and went to crypto as their main “investment”. It’s one of the most speculative assets and 100% a gamble. Only a small portion of your wealth should be in crypto imo. I got lucky with Eth in 2017 and got it for a low cost basis, sold some at the peak in 2021 for a downpayment on a house and left the rest staking. I probably should have sold most of it in 2024 when it peaked and just moved all it over to fiat markets, index funds. Even though I got very lucky with Eth I still wish I just used all the money to buy nvidia or even index funds tbh in 2016. Fiat is how you grow your wealth, and crypto should be only a tiny portion of your wealth for pure gambling and hedging. And don’t fuck with altcoins, it’s Eth or BTC only imo.