BTC

DrManolx

When dollar is worth shit BTC will worth 1M shits, yeah.

TomorrowLow5092

Over a billion dollars of BTC, ETH, etc have been stolen in last few years and they are getting better at it.

Reason_Boner

RemindMe! When BTC hard fork is scheduled.

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slimdizzy

100000 qubit projection is like 10 years away at best I believe. To break what's needed to hack BTC and by proxy banks, military and other critical infrastructure we need something like 500000 - 1000000 qubits. We have one machine capable of 6000 or so currently if I recall. I believe it doesn't scale like normal computing either (not 100%). I don't work in the field, this is just my research and interest in it over the last couple of years. Someone can correct me please if I have mis-stated anything.

AuthorOne6979

DCA on Altcoins is literally the worst decision you can make. Especially if your portfolio is built on some weak coins. Most of nowadays projects are useless, and driven only by marketing and influencers. Only DCA i would go for is BTC but this Also have some serious cons. You have zero guarantee that they will reclaim value over time. Dont do it broski - Srsly.

Bishaqs

Nah, I don't see it this way. I think 99% of the alts are trash yes, i can give you that, but coins like Solana, Ethereum, the AI Narrative coins, Doge, Pepe... all of these coins, in my opinion, have a longer life span than 99% of the useless trash we have right now because they still have real holders. I think the problem right now is that people don't know where to put their money in, and you don't really have a risk-on environment overall. I would not blame you to just buy and hold BTC, and I'm the last person who does it, but I think we will get another alt season or a specific coin rally by the simple fact of the rotation.

Henry_old

Thinking BTC will still provide 100x gains is a logic error. It’s a store of value now, not a growth engine. Real multipliers are in high-speed ecosystems like Solana. Volatility is profit, provided you have the tech to trade it faster than the crowd

Express_Smile6163

It's holding up better the majority of alts, down the same amount as BTC. One of the largest L1s and used for stable coins which are going to be a major part of cryptos future. CZ and Binance are bad news and manipulate other coins but manage to keep BnB up. Im not in it for the tech or because I idolice the creator, I'm in it for number go up.

ShittingOutPosts

100%. BTC is my hedge against so many risks.

Big80sweens

I’m already in stocks, I’m not really in bitcoin because I think it’ll moon. I’m in BTC for the security. I’m not in a war torn country today and probably won’t be in the near future, but if I find myself as a refugee in another country I want to know I can access some wealth despite the rest of my assets being frozen, bitcoin is that solution. Accessible anywhere in the world and only by me. Oh and if it moons, great!

Interesting_Loss_907

Depends on time frame. You won’t see 100X from here (6.7 M/Btc) within the next decade or so, ie. not like we saw before. But 20-30 years from now that’s entirely possible. Why? Because USD & other fiat currencies can be printed without limit. There is literally no limit to the amount dollars (or €, or £) can be depreciated in terms of purchasing power over the next 30 years. once BTC passes $1M per coin, $1M won’t have the same purchasing power it does today. But holding some Bitcoin will almost certainly prove beneficial to your long term savings as compared to holding only fiat.

OldHamburger7923

I'm cherry picking, but: Bitcoin (BTC): from $16,688.85 on Jan 3, 2023 to $66,098 now. That is +296.1%, or about 3.96x. Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO): from $349.99 on Jan 3, 2023 to $602.30 now. That is +72.1%, or about 1.72x.

ilikeplayingthisgame

Disagree, 100x from here is $6.7m a coin. Absolutely not happening anytime soon but if you believe in BTC there isn't really a floor for the price. So far it hasn't hit one PT and been like yeah, that's it.

Bishaqs

I still think BTC will hit 1 mil sooner or later so if you buy at these prices you could make a bit less than 20x on your net-worth think this is self-explanatory...

Confident_Hunter7506

Cut your losses. None of those coins are recovering. SOL maybe but ETH didn’t even hit a new ATH last cycle. SUI can’t attract liquidity and the other 2 are useless. BTC is the only play and maybe HYPE.

CuriousGeorge22_02

This. If Coinbase made a mistake they will take it back eventually. If no one contacts you after a week consider it an airdrop and buy more BTC

Safe-Painter-9618

All I know is I put 10k into BTC yesterday. So naturally the price will tank.

Senior_Intern8786

BTC is a risky asset. Buy and hold was ok years ago. But now it's more for swing traders

No-Faithlessness6917

why do I see these expect same copy/paste posts everyday? Cope harder buddy, you fomo'd in at the top. BTC didn't even hit 128k either. What is it with these idiots that have to engagement farm because they couldn't put some more effort in before buying and realize that buying BTC in q4 of a post halving year is probably not smart.

Romanizer

Funny how you could replace BTC with almost anything of value in that sentence. The point in that case is to get as much of it as possible as soon as possible.

Coininator

Check the order book; this can be easily done on big exchanges like kraken or coinbase on the USD or USDT pair. Make a limit order to be safe. You are not going to move the market price by selling less than 1 BTC ;)

PrettyPleaseYo

The altcoin market has been in bearmarket for over a year! Most people expected an altcoin season and for alts to follow BTC sometime in 2025, and so most people who sold, also sold in the bearmarket. Even if prices were double or triple back in October when it felt like no alt season was coming. Given the market last time, many alts may never return to their ATHs. I’m sticking with bigger ALTs this time. But also concerned about macro, we have only seen the crypto market in bullish economy. No way to tell what happens if we enter a proper recession decade.

AbsolutelyRich

I’ve been testing a few platforms recently and here’s roughly how they feel from my experience: * **Binance:** Low trading fees and huge liquidity, plus solid derivatives options. Can be overwhelming for beginners, and verification can take a bit. * **Bitget:** Good balance for intermediate traders—competitive derivatives fees and decent spot trading. UI is simpler than Binance, but spot liquidity isn’t as deep and it’s less well-known globally. * **Coinbase:** Very beginner-friendly, smooth fiat-to-BTC process, and strongly compliant with regulations. Fees are higher, and spreads can be wider. * **Kraken:** Strong security and reliable fiat support. Better for intermediate traders; the interface isn’t the easiest for newcomers. * **Bybit:** Fast execution and withdrawals, good for derivatives and margin. Spot trading isn’t as deep as Binance or Coinbase. A few things I pay attention to when choosing: * Security first—cold storage for large holdings is safest. * Liquidity—important for bigger trades to avoid slippage. * Verification—some platforms onboard faster than others. * Fees—spot vs derivatives fees can vary a lot. * User experience—simplicity matters if you’re just buying and holding; advanced tools matter for active traders. I’ve found Bitget hits a nice middle ground for intermediate traders, while Coinbase works well for first-time BTC buyers.

LiveInLayers

BTC institute says use BTC. Shocker

Pi72a

Have you not heard of "tax loss harvesting"?  HIFO? BUY HIGH. [price drops]. SELL your highest bought Sats LOW ..... but then immediately BUY LOW because no wash sale. Now I have a lower cost basis and a huge cap loss that's been harvested.  In other words, a credit for offsetting cap gains or $3K of income that I can apply to my family's tax bill.  Oh and it rolls over every year. So I'm still holding roughly the same amount of BTC as before. I've secured a benefit, and can continue playing accounting games as the price goes lower. I do everything on my terms and have no interest in trying to time the markets. I may have bought less than the dudes/gals who held fiat during a downturn.  But I also wasn't going to miss the upside, you know?  What if last year was when BTC ran up to $200K?!? People holding fiat and "trading" between it and BTC are speculating on price. They will be the winners in slightly more than half of scenarios, but also losers in others. That way of living is exhausting IMHO. It's far less exhausting and mentally fatiguing to just hold your wealth in the greatest sovereign savings vehicle ever conceived, Bitcoin. The main takeaway I want people to understand is that it doesn't matter what price you buy Bitcoin at.  When people ask you in the future Q: What price did you buy BTC at? You can say:  Any price Q: How much do you have? A: Not enough --- In terms of strategies to stack more Sats, I DCA from cash into Bitcoin, i tax loss harvest, and I HODL. BTC is my collateral base that I borrow against. Now, this generating cash business to buy BTC at ATHs.... I am employed. I pay for life with my income. I save a little. With my modest savings, I trade leveraged options on Bitcoin Treasury companies. I limit my downside risks and am being capital efficient by using options. DAT prices are by design "amplified" Bitcoin so I'm two fold speculating on BTC prices. I do well in both bull and bear markets. But, you see, there's this pesky problem when Bitcoin is ripping to a new ATHs.... I'm swimming in gains!!! At first, I didn't quite know what to do. But then I eventually did the exact thing you questioned:  I bought the top!!!   😅 Because the whole goal is to convert into Sats. (saving on taxes is the long part of this explanation)

Bishaqs

I really think this is one of the best strategies to play and he definitely understands BTC and Fiat

simonmales

I don't use stable coins. But understand the use cases. And of course they assume trust as you mentioned: Pleb can permissionlessly accept USD. I understand in some parts of the world, opening a bank account is a big deal, if not impossible. People and business cannot stomach the fluctuations. So they accept 1 USD and spent that 1 USD with some gas token. We had to pay a vendor in China and we didn't have the stable coins of preference. E.g. we had USDC, but they only accept USDT (or vice versa, don't recall). In the end we agreed on BTC. But we had to pay the invoice within 30 mins to avoid the fluctuations.  Because they are not treating BTC as money rather than a store of value. And stable coins as money.

user_name_checks_out

Double post. [I accidentally withdrew my BTC to a saved wallet and I can’t find where that wallet goes to.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sa0369/i_accidentally_withdrew_my_btc_to_a_saved_wallet/)

DiddysAfterparty

The only thing that will tighten is your sphincter, when BTC is at 30k by July.

002Chris

So when all the BTC in the world is owned by like 5 people, what's the point of it then? or the value?

Drizznarte

Don't trust a 3rd party to hold your bitcoin, not your keys not your coins. Probably best to get the first purchase in asap , on rainbow chart we are in fire sale. Whoever you use to borrow against your BTC doesn't matter yet , decide later.

nastysurprise666

Aim for 0,1 BTC but you have to start somewhere :) **Got for it!**

Reason_Boner

2 years is not a lot of time to correct it, especially as no one has seriously actively aggressively acknowledged this issue on the Bitcoin community side. It’s more outsiders seeing the issue. The longer that silence lasts, the lower BTC will value, and there may come a point that its value is too low to spend resources to save its encryption schema.

Spicyocto

Man these days everyone just seems to be waiting to offload their BTC for fiat. Never sell all your BTC. There will be a time you be able to USE it without the need to sell

Fit-Poet6736

My BTC is on Nexo, they do about 6% a year on it which is better than most places I've found. Quick math on your 50k that's like $250/month give or take. Not bad for literally doing nothing

Tuftekvess

Donald duck will pump BTC insanely at some point. Not sure if its a good thing but mark my words. Its hes way of saving USA economically when all waste is over.

DankShibe

Your real infrastructure shitcoins will be obliterated to obscurity like LRC or ICP were , while doge will still be around and reaching the high heavens every 4 year BTC halving cycle

Independent-Funny342

Grass is an interesting DePIN angle because it ties “passive income” to real network activity, not just token emissions, which is why it’s getting attention in the AI narrative.But like most of these bandwidth/DePIN plays, rewards can be variable and depend heavily on demand cycles and user growth staying strong. That’s why I still like balancing higher-beta stuff like this with more stable CeFi yield options like CoinDepo, where BTC/stablecoin income is more predictable instead of purely network-driven.

NoodlesOnTuesday

Glad it was useful. The stablecoin distortion is one of those things that once you see it you cannot unsee it. If you want a quick way to sanity-check the real alt exposure, CoinGecko lets you filter by category. Pull up the total market cap, subtract BTC, ETH, stablecoins, wrapped tokens, and liquid staking derivatives. What you get is a much smaller number than total3 suggests, and it moves differently during rotations. The other thing worth watching is whether dominance is rising because BTC is pumping or because alts are bleeding. Same number on the chart, very different implication for what happens next.

Independent-Funny342

Yeah that’s a fair read, it doesn’t feel like panic anymore, but it also doesn’t feel like full conviction either. More like the market has adapted to constant macro noise rather than actually resolving it, BTC in that environment just becomes a slow grind asset, less emotional swings, more “wait and see” positioning. That’s usually where people either get chopped up trying to trade every move or shift toward longer-term positioning and passive yield strategies like CoinDepo instead of trying to time the macro perfectly.

ProQuest23

Buying $300k BTC in chunks for a long HODL? Kraken is solid for low fees on Pro, easy withdrawals to your Ledger, and they offer margin. For borrowing against it later, many just send to Ledn or Unchained once bought better rates and terms than most exchanges. Coinbase works too if you want simpler onboarding, but fees bite more on big buys.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

That’s honestly a nightmare situation, sorry you’re dealing with that. Stuff like this is exactly why people in my circle are always a bit paranoid about leaving anything on exchanges long term. If you can still withdraw fiat, that at least means your account isn’t totally locked, but the BTC transfer block is the scary part. I’ve seen people mention that sometimes re-verification flags temporarily restrict crypto withdrawals, but the timing with the shutdown makes it way worse. If it were me I’d be spamming support and trying every official channel, even socials, just to get eyes on it. Also maybe double check if there’s any extra security step pending that’s blocking transfers. Hope it gets sorted before the deadline, that’s super stressful.

Independent-Funny342

yeah this is actually a real pain point in crypto, everything feels fragmented across different platforms that were never built for this use case, even discovery, growth, and monetization are still dependent on Web2 systems that can change rules overnight or throttle reach without notice, that’s why I personally focus less on chasing social platforms and more on simple strategies like holding BTC long term and using CoinDepo for steady CeFi yield in the background, having stable, predictable income mechanics feels way more reliable than relying on any single platform for distribution or earnings

Independent-Funny342

yeah I think you’re right that a big chunk of crypto still trades more on narrative and sentiment than actual cash flow, but I also think value isn’t always “revenue” in the traditional sense, sometimes it’s network utility, liquidity access, or being the rail for capital movement, that’s why I try to separate speculation from allocation: I keep most BTC long term in cold storage, and then use CoinDepo for steady CeFi yield where there’s actual lending/structured return mechanics behind it instead of pure hype, fixed yield platforms feel closer to traditional income models, even if the underlying crypto market around them is still sentiment-driven, over time I agree only projects with real usage or cash-flow-like structures will survive, everything else just rotates with cycles

Financial_Vanilla_47

They'll come back if BTC dies because in post mortem people will realize why the rest of the market was always so mispriced.

Financial_Vanilla_47

Oh we probably are I say this is the big one! For BTC not for all crypto... We need BTC to die so the rest of the markets can get priced properly.

ozera202

can BTC just break down to 20-30k already maybe even 1k due to recession and financial crash that's coming so we can buy....

pabl0b

Can I ask a real n00b question and ask why you wouldn’t just buy on an exhange like Coinbase? Is the consensus that it’s not safe or stable at any significant volume? (over 1BTC, let’s say) ? Why broker?

Financial_Vanilla_47

Do what now? Do you want me to explain my thesis in more detail? I don't think BTC mining can handle below 30k and structural failure sets in around there... What's wrong with stables or other projects I think they'll do great!

AmazingfurnitureCT

Nothing to feel about BTC just stack and chill

polymanAI

$80M short BTC + long crude is basically a bet that the ceasefire talks fail and energy crisis deepens. That's a directional macro bet dressed up as a hedge. His track record being bad is actually useful info. On Polyman we score traders by historical accuracy for exactly this reason - knowing someone's past performance before tailing them is the difference between following a thesis and following a degen into a volcano.

polymanAI

BTC sitting at $68K during a geopolitical crisis that would have cratered it 2 years ago is actually significant. It's maturing as an asset class even if it's not "digital gold" in the traditional sense. Polymarket has some interesting markets on BTC price targets. The smart traders on Polyman have been split on direction lately - some loading up on BTC above $75K by summer, others hedging with NO positions. When the top-rated wallets disagree, that usually means the market is fairly priced.

Onalerono

They do have that option. Businesses in the US that use Square have the option of accepting BTC and keeping it as BTC, accepting BTC and having a specified percentage automatically converted to USD, accepting USD and having specified a percentage automatically converted to BTC, or accepting USD and keeping it as USD. And those businesses can withdraw their BTC from their Square merchant account at any time.

CryptoOnTheSidewalk

Which chain are you actually planning to stake on, and is it real BTC or some wrapped version on another network? Native Bitcoin doesn’t support staking, so if a platform offers “BTC staking” it’s usually lending or a derivative setup, meaning your return depends on counterparty risk, not just network rewards. With something like that, returns can change and aren’t guaranteed, so I’d first check how the yield is generated and what happens if withdrawals get paused. Just don’t treat it like passive income, because the risk side matters more than the percentage they show.

speederaser

Real talk though, risk management is for everyone. If you had kids, you're right, you should risk less, but no kids doesn't mean risk it all.  I would put a bit in an index fund so I'm prepared for when I do have kids or want a nice wedding, and then dump the rest in BTC. 

rgoncalves96

Eu acho que não é ruim. Há estimativas que se todos milionários (em dólar) do mundo quisessem ter Bitcoin, a divisão daria por volta de 0.1 BTC para cada um. Logo, se você triver 0.01 não está mal.

No-Head1851

There are two mistakes in his reasons: 1) Gold has no independence, so I don't see why should I swap an oversold asset like BTC for an overbought asset like gold on those grounds.  2) Since October BTC had not been reacting to any news whatsoever, if it had, it would have pump alongside gold. The market has (specially gold) started to follow on this dynamic, until both the lack of FED rate cut and the US iranian intervention.  At that moment, the only asset that didn't overreact and stayed flat (already completing a cycle) was BTC.  Do I need to explain why I just bought this asset? This is the asset I wanna have for this very situation, and not only that, for this change of paradigm.

Lazy_Insect_5552

I am trying to recover my BTC I withdrew it from kraken. And I don’t know what adress that is it’s labeled with my initials. But I can’t find it anywhere

EducationalChemist14

If you want to buy and send BTC without verification, check out flake.exchange. You can swap from other crypto or buy directly . Connects straight to a wallet like MetaMask or Trust Wallet. Simple and private.

Sloth_engine

People underestimate how much even a small amount matters. Most folks don’t even own any BTC at all.

riscten

There's about 1.3 million BTC left to be mined. Once that's done, we'll send the existing BTC to each other.

According_Cherry_837

BTC king of shitcoin

Financial_Vanilla_47

Seems like no one wants to consider where the breaking point is for BTC but I've done my analysis and I'm confident! This is the big one guys it'll be obvious when it's under 30k. The rest of the crypto markets will THRIVE without the dead weight of BTC which was nothing but a giant liquidity eraser for the broader crypto markets... Say hello to an alt season born from the ashes of Bitcoin!

Financial_Vanilla_47

It's actually a combination of people realizing the long leverage keeps getting reloaded at at price level. The institutions being delta neutral, and the health of the BTC mining and block times that, and strategy being in a horrible position around much lower prices levels that will invalidate any bullish thesis this year... Especially if we start closing under 30k I consider that the event horizon for BTC... Let's see who's ready for it.

Financial_Vanilla_47

I did. And I'm not out of crypto either I just don't believe in BTC anymore.

submarinefarm

You've made one just one BTC purchase? Huh.

EarningsPal

Where can you borrow from BTC for a home with no liquidation risk?

TentacleHockey

You think hacking BTC is bad, wait till you learn what else Quantum computing can technically hack.

rankinrez

Migration is no walk in the park though. _However, forward-looking migration to PQC is not a panacea. Dormant digital assets, including those abandoned or inaccessible due to lost private keys, pose a distinct and critical challenge. We highlight the example of Bitcoin’s Pay-to-Public-Key (P2PK) locking scripts, which secure over 1.7 million BTC. The total amount of dormant quantumvulnerable bitcoin may reach 2.3 million BTC when all script types are considered. Unlike active wallets that can migrate to new standards, dormant assets cannot be “fixed” via forks that enable PQC protocols for future transactions. They represent a fixed target — tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in value that will eventually become accessible to a quantum attacker. The community will soon face difficult, unprecedented decisions regarding the fate of these assets, forcing tradeoffs between the immutability of cryptographic property rights and the economic stability of the network._

BlackbeltKevin

That is also true. My opinion on it is still extremely skeptical. I fail to see the value in BTC. I do have a very small amount that was paid out from a sweepstakes casino that I’m just holding. About $120 at current value.

john_wilkesboof

But always make sure you have only 5 percent of that BTC in crypto so I would allocate that into percent more BTC..but that's just me

JTHM8008

I’ve been buying BTC on Cash App and I get the price I want with no spread BS that Coinbase does. If you do recurring buys, there are no fees. Cash App is owned by Jack Dorsey who’s a big Bitcoiner. Fuck Coinbase.

Confident_Hunter7506

Keep in mind all the Digital Asset Treasury (DAT) companies that are underwater with their holdings. They all bought ETH and BTC near the highs of the last cycle. The bottom will be after their business model explodes.

yoyo1231234

Look at a 5 year chart and see how many months BTC can consistently dip before it does a monster come back. Nov 12th 2021 at the top of a high dipped for 13 months until dec. 20th 2022 when the price bottomed at 16k. 13 months of overall dipping with some small comebacks along the way. After that pretty much straight gains until March 29 2024 from 16k back to 71k. 16 month bull run. After that a 6 month volatile over all dip, 71k->54k. Then 54k to 124k, 13 months with major volatility but ultimately a bull run. That ended oct 3 2025. All this to say is be prepared for downturns and upturns anywhere from 3-16 months. But ultimately the price goes up.

mickalawl

Most chains still fail the trilema. But nore importabtly they never made the algorithms oligarch resistant. Some of the chains are decentralised but the oligarchs have built all the scaffolding around it to control it. GOP would not go into crypti if they did not think their billionaire backers could control it. A couple of big mining pools for BTC - the hardware requirements iced out the little guy. Tether and strategy reinvented the infinite money glitch of printing. With thin liquidity the whales can control the price. The lack of regulation is touted as a boon of dece tralisation but it also means fleecing the little people is niw consequence free.

Putrid-Garbage55

For $300k over a few months, you're in OTC territory regardless of which exchange you pick. Standard spot orders that size will eat slippage, especially if you're buying in chunks. Kraken OTC has a $50k minimum and negotiable fees, their public taker fees start at 0.26% but with OTC you'll get much better. They also have a solid track record on the borrowing side if you're thinking about using BTC as collateral down the road. Other options to consider: * **Bitfinex Borrow** P2P lending, lets you borrow against BTC directly without selling. Minimum loan $175 equivalent * **Coinbase Prime** if you're in the US and want the most regulated path, but their OTC minimum is $100k and fees are higher One thing worth watching: on chain whale movements and exchange liquidity flows before you execute each chunk. I use [Coinlobster](https://coinlobster.com/crypto-whales) to see when large wallets are moving BTC to exchanges, helps avoid buying right before a sell wall hits

j0ker31m

Would it have happened if we weren't in a global pandemic though? Y'all love to forget that part when posting statistics about Biden's term. But the economybeas already in shambles when he was sworn in, got worse when the shutdown happened, and then bounced back well before Biden left office. The economy back to normal, stock market was hitting all-time highs under Biden, BTC reached an all-time high under Biden, and then started tanking again under Trump. Bidens policy didn't kill the economy, covid did. Once covid was in the past, Bidens policies created a good, stable economy. We are not in any sort of stable economy now, and Biden is not our President.

nibirian_

Long-term HODL with $300k is a solid plan. Kraken is popular for low fees and good margin/borrowing options, plus they play nice with Ledger. Just make sure you understand the tax implications of borrowing against BTC or using it as collateral — some countries treat it as a taxable event. Anyone else doing large DCA into self-custody lately? What broker worked best for you?

Libertarian000

It is very good goal. BTC will be worth 15 milion USD soon so your 0,01 will be valued 150 000 USD. 👍

angelwolf71885

0.01 BTC that’s a good amount to start with

GoldenKettle24

I'm also in the UK, and had been wondering about this for a while, so I decided make an attempt yesterday to acquire some BTC without KYC. My attempt was successful, and here is what I did: I already had a Wise account, which helped to make the fiat transfer easier. I downloaded the Bisq application for Windows and installed the application I then tried to make a purchase, but discovered you need a \~25% deposit in BTC to be held in escrow before you can make a purchase on Bisq. At this point, you have the option to fund the required deposit with your own BTC, but if this has been purchased with a KYC exchange, then it can potentially be traced. The solution to this (as recommended on the Bisq website) was to use the alternative Bisq2 / 'Bisq Easy' platform to make a purchase for the deposit amount. The 'Bisq Easy' platform is different to the main Bisq platform in that there is no deposit/escrow requirement, but because of this the spreads on offer are generally wider from market, and the amounts on offer are lower than the main Bisq platform. So, I downloaded the Bisq2 appication from their website, installed this, and found someone willing to sell me £50 worth of BTC for around 15% over market price. I sent the buy request, and entered the Funding Wallet address of my main Bisq account as where I would like to receive the BTC. I was then provided with the sellers Wise username. I logged into my Wise account, and sent the £50 directly to the seller. I was then sent the BTC. Now that my main Bisq account had £50 worth of BTC available to use as deposit, I was able to find a seller offering €150 worth of BTC at around 8.5% above market price. I placed the order, and used my £50 of BTC from the previous Easy Bisq purchase to fund the deposit/escrow requirement. I was then sent the sellers Wise account name, and I sent the €150 to the seller from my Wise account. Once the payment was received, I received the €150 of BTC into my Bisq wallet (the main Bisq app creates you a new BTC wallet when you install the app) My depost from this trade was refunded in BTC to my Funding Wallet address, and is availbe to use again as deposit in future transactions. There is no mobile trading app for either of these platforms. It's Windows/Mac/Linux only, but the main Bisq platform does have a mobile app that lets you receive notifications from the Bisq network when your transaction status has changed. You enroll the app with a QR code from your main Bisq app. Both the main Bisq and the Bisq2 / Bisq Easy apps open a Tor tunnel for traffic in the background when you launch them. All-in-all this was a seamless process that I would be willing to use again. Having a Wise account already setup for multiple currencies definantely made the fiat side very simple to manage.

Equivalent_Dog6713

entendi! e onde eles estão agora? a ditadura seria o governo atual? realmente é uma merda, um dos motivos de comprar BTC é me proteger disso...

LiquidityCompass

BTC is always in a buy zone until liquidity says otherwise 😄 price can stay “cheap” way longer than people expect are we buying value… or just early?

TheresNoSecondBest

>Is 0.01 a good target to aim for with BTC? That's 1 million sats and an excellent target, mate. https://satsperperson.com/

AppropriateJackpot

as BTC stabililizes, the inflow comes no?

Shrijit27

You could look into Delta Exchange India if derivatives are important for your strategy. From what I have seen, quite a few traders here use it for BTC/ETH derivatives, and the FIU registration gives some level of regulatory comfort from an India perspective... One thing to keep in mind is that deposits and withdrawals usually happen via INR rails, so many people end up using a mix of platforms depending on whether they prioritize USDT transfers, derivatives access, or long term storage.

Designer-Beginning16

It’s a good starting target but 0.1 BTC should be the long term stacking goal.

Equivalent_Dog6713

perfeito! estou investindo ativamente em BTC, também invisto em ações, fundos imobiliários e tesouro nacional. no momento meu foco realmente é aumentar a posição em BTC pois não tinha nada até final do ano passado.

LiquidityCompass

It is a great goal, but once u will get there, make your goal at 0.1 BTC. I think it will be life changing in 10 years. Avoid daily trading at any cost, u will lost everything. Keep dca.

praise_the_most_high

Any amount is better than no BTC! Keep stacking sats and all the best

RothStonk

I've been tempted to and I think BTC has upside, but I think it comes with a lot more volatility and tax implications that I no longer have to deal with.

repomies69

Or just use the normal order books. It is not going to make a difference really. If you want to save some money, create post-only market maker orders. But 300k is not much on BTC markets these days, especially since the plan was to do it in chunks.

Excellent_Load9336

since 2021, Altcoins havent recovered 2022 bear market. BTC made highs and dropped, QQQs and SPY near ATH, gold and silver hit moon... where are we going? will altcoins ever recover? What can cause it to outperform rest of market? will it atleast recover?

Glittering-Doubt4955

BTC would just fork to a quantum resistant protocol, if that would be the case. This is a non-issue.

Georgiy8

COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS: "The quantum threat = the end of BTC" — no, this is a threat   to a specific algorithm (ECDLP), which can be addressed through migration "Only crypto is vulnerable" — no, the same threat   applies to banks, SWIFT, HTTPS, and military systems CZ (Binance): "we just need to update the algorithms" —   true in theory, but for decentralized networks   coordinating updates is extremely difficult CORRECT INFORMATION: On March 30, 2026, Google Quantum AI published a peer-reviewed whitepaper showing a \~20x reduction in quantum resource requirements for breaking ECC-256. Theoretically, a future QC system with \~500K qubits could derive a private key in \~9 minutes during an on-spend attack (41% chance per block). \~6.9 million BTC have exposed public keys. But current hardware (105 qubits) is \~5,000 times less than what is needed. The threat is real ON THE HORIZON, not now.

RedBostitchStapler

Historically post-halving midterm years BTC bottoms around October.

DontLook_Weirdo

Coinbase allows you to load up their debit card with crypto and use the card like normal. Strike allows you to pay with lightning Cashapp allows you to spend BTC by using their card like a BTC debit card at the thousands and thousands of listed brick n mortar stores Hope that helps

gianfc2001

What are you talking about, they literally sell BTC to institutional investors and business

Brawlah

Interesting take on his Ledger. Any thoughts on Trezor? I'd like ro use for multiple tokens...but BTC would be my biggest chunk. Tyia