BTC

anontalk

0.1 BTC would have bought land in the country side

xilepandora

If you are lucky to be in a country with BTC or ETH ATMs you can deposit cash and transfer to a wallet you have then trade onchain via decentralized exchanges or Hyperliquid

Mrvette1

Lol, you won't listen to a guy who creates a fake profile picture about you buying a fake investment? Go tell you're that while you're looking in the mirror. Why i think BTC will hit 15k before 150k. Because BTC will never hit 150k. It will fail when enough folks lose faith in it and as it happens it will keep on dropping.

r33gna

0.1 BTC and you didn't consider buying an actual hardware wallet? Damn.

Mrvette1

I'm going off what I heard, so I'm sure there are more then what I heard from a year or two ago. I know only 21 or 22 million can ever be made. You're not addressing my argument that btc is shit. Only really helping it. California has 14.6 million housing units. There are more btc then houses in California. A house you can fucking live in. Touch and see.... BTC is nothing. If all BTC goes away society would be unaffected. Go buy something real.

kshucker

It’s more likely that you clicked on some bullshit link that you thought was legit but wasn’t and then it drained your account. Your BTC is gone nothing you can do about it.

kepalautakkau

I mean if BTC starts pumpin, most alts are probably gonna follow anyway. Why DOGE though?

FitCompetition1804

If the S ever HTF, you’ll wish you had self custodial BTC. I know most don’t think like that, but that’s what makes it a unique asset. With ETF’s or leaving it on an exchange, you lose that aspect of Bitcoin ownership.

NoBrosCrypto

Just remember that when you sell the top, you pay tax. I did the maths. Let’s say I bought $10K worth at BTC $25K and made 5X by selling the absolute top $125K. So now I have $50K and made $40K net profit. $12-15K in tax. So now I have $35K total left to buy back in. If I just held, my BTC dropped in value to $25K since it’s about half the high. I’m only $10K ahead with a whole lot of risk if I timed it incorrectly. Then with the $35K I have to time the absolute bottom whilst being completely out of BTC. Would I have held out to $60K?? Or would I have jumped back in at $80K? In which case I’d be about on par having not sold anything. Always easy in hindsight but the reality is different. HODL is easier and less stressful. Hope the above gives you comfort.

Gears6

> Like a true BTC maximalist Just hope quantum computer doesn't have a sudden leap in advancement rendering BTC broken.

Gears6

The other one is, you buy at $30k, it goes to $90k, you now think it's a winner and you cash in some. Then it goes to $120k and then you won't buy, only for it to go $150k. Ever seen that pattern? I see it way to often in stocks, and my trick is to evaluate it based on what new information exist. Problem with BTC is, it doesn't have as much information, and is entirely dependent on demand. There's no inherent value, or production of anything really. So it's much harder to determine.

Gears6

> I keep replaying it in my head. I had chances to sell high last year and just... didn't. Told myself I was in it for the long haul, that timing the top was a fool's game, all the usual HODL logic. And on one level I still believe that. But some nights I do the math on what I left on the table and it stings. I am still a Bitcoin maxi but I'm constantly thinking I could have doubled my BTC in a single year. Like anything, you learn. I've done that a few times with stock. One time, I earned $400k on a stock. Didn't take the gain, and figured I'm in for the long haul. Saw the stock shrink to a fraction of that, and now I'm taking a gain of $150k instead many years later. Learning from that, I now take some gain off the table, and go after more lucrative opportunities. With that said, you cannot agonize over something you don't know. You could've sold the BTC at $80k and at $120k you could've said damn, I lost out on 50% growth! 👀 So the rule I have is, buy things when they seem low (based on whatever metric you use since BTC is hard to evaluate) and sell some when they seem overpriced. Then also don't solely rely on a single source of investment, especially something as risky as BTC. In other words, I sold some stocks recently and bought some BTC. I'm contrarian.

NoBrosCrypto

That’s your price target for BTC? I would agree there’s a future where we see that become a reality.

Guy-Lambo

I agree with this. Personally the fomo of BTC running up hurts more than buying and seeing BTC drop 30-50% for me.

wgcole01

What regret? I last bought BTC in 2019 at around $3400. I'm always up.

MarioWilson122

I can see some people adding ETH to that list, or even SOL. But after last cycle, it's hard to really argue against BTC being the pick if we only get one, especially if it's a large amount of money in it.

MinimumWrong6961

Sell half, keep half in. Buy cheaper BTC during bear market

Siludin

A subjective shitpost about a meme shitcoin with no technical merit, intended at its base level to devalue itself into irrelevance, and its comparison with BTC.

Simke11

So if you expect new BTC ATH, why not just buy BTC and get that 2-3x without gambling on a shitcoin for the same potential return?

patsfan2019

Longtime holder and believer. Bought through the ups and downs, including ATHs. Since 2014 I have never sold for a gain, not once. I have sold specific lots when the realized loss is >15% then immediately repurchase at the lower price. With no wash sale rule applying to crypto this results in a tax loss to offset income while preserving my total BTC total (minus 1% buy/sell fees) and driving down total BTC holding avg cost. BTC price volatility and no wash sale rule presents a unique tool, only downside is the fees, and I only sell and realize a loss when the tax gain offset is greater \~ 3x fees.

ChicksX

I agree BTC and stablecoins have the clearest long-term roles, but I wouldn’t say every meme coin is dead forever. DOGE is just a very different thesis. It’s more liquidity, community, and speculation than fundamentals. It can definitely pump again in a risk-on market, but calling it a “no brainer” is where I’d be careful. Position sizing matters a lot with coins like this.

Independent-Box-451

Wntr yeildmax bought btc at 82k..bought 28k worth. And been buy more wntr ever time btc hits 63500. So far so good. Im out of WNTR when BTC hit 55k

ImZappy

That's for you to decide; it's a very personal thing. Some people have the idea of holding forever, which I can understand if you believe in BTC super long term; me personally, I will probs sell a large amount of my stack in 5-10years, whenever I have enough money to buy a nice house tbh. Something you gotta answer for yourself

Remarkable_Ad5011

When my BTC value equals my mortgage balance, I am selling. Now, it’s looking like they may intersect at about $0. 🤪😂

PeaceAgitated1978

It's way more about buying the best amount of out of the old system in terms of BTC quantity. Of course as long as $ are still backing the whole economy.. there's a use to trade BTC against US $ 🤷 it's still a net accruance of net worth if you win your Trades.. but trading isn't for everyone... Investing on the other side.. is for everyone and should have been since way back then . Only some people seems to have strayed from common sense. Or sometimes, they have been strayed from the right investments by their own advisors at Banksfor less and less risks.. but risk is rewards equivalent. And not having the best rewards make sure you end up below the average debasement of your currency. And that word is the best one to truly understand. Debasement is you paying for the gov. Debt upright via net buying power of yours being stolen by your government while he just printed endless amounts of cash . To pay / roll his debt further away. So yeah.. minimum you should have as a return on my end of it? An average of 16% / year.. beating the broad indexes.. SP 500.. or so.. first step to not being fully stolen of your purchasing power.. next step is estimating how much does you should have been investing.. so that you still have something left to ease your life after you have worked out your full working time.. aka slaving your way 🤷

ucbcawt

BTC is out of fashion-those using it as an investment have moved on to things like memory stocks. I don’t see it going to 200k for a long time if ever

LionRivr

Corny question gets corny response. And the real answer isn’t simple. Everyone’s different. 1. Are you selling just for short term trading profits? 2. How much? All of it? A portion? 3. Are you trying to time the top to buy back in later? 4. Will you regret if it keeps going up without you? 5. Do we know if the 4-year cycle is guaranteed? 6. Are you selling because you need to make a payment? 7. Is it even worth selling when accounting for taxes based on where you live? 8. Short term capital gains tax? Long term capital gains tax? 9. Can you just spend the BTC wherever you need to? Most likely not. But will you wait until that point? 10. Are you selling to chase another speculative bet?

Gr8WallofChinatown

It’s possible but why the fuck would I do that? You know why people don’t use bitcoin as a currency? It’s because why would someone pay with something that might go up in value. Aka the bitcoin pizza story. Why would I pay a fee converting fiat into BTC, pay transfer fees, all to pay a bill? You’re behind in times. People gave up on BTC as a currency since 2015

Ketroc21

Next year you could be thinking: "why didn't I sell at $60k when I had the chance?". No one knows where BTC is going. It's silly to regret not knowing the unknowable last year.

ScrotusAmongus

I saw BTC on Bitcointalk forums when it was $1 and I spent $1000 that year on dumb shit. I guess time heals all wounds.

Striking_Policy9252

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PomegranatePure208

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CleanUpstairs7593

BTC = pain BTC Maxi = MAXPAIN

ximogui

BTC is an asset where you win by going against the crowd. Good times to buy are anti-correlated to sentiment by design. It is all a test of conviction.

miamiair92

I have a good story for you. I sold some BTC around 32k price because I thought it was the top. I had debt and I needed to pay it off. That’s why I don’t sell anymore, every time I sell I regret it. Did I think about selling at 83k a few months ago when I was mostly sure BTC would go lower this bear? Yeah I did , did I? Fuck no because I’m not a physic and don’t know for sure it was going lower. Just hold you coins for dear life and only sell for something that’s really found to make your life better, a house, retirement, kids college . Cheers in 5 years it’s all in the past and you will be happy you didn’t sell

Deep_faith

Perps? You can basically (and I’m going to use the wrong term for simplicity’s sake) bet on cryptos going up or down. You used to be able to do it at 15 mins, 1 H, 1 D, or even 1 month intervals. Now you can do it indefinitely. My question is, what if we all invested back in Bitcoin, right now that it’s low, and bet that it’s going to go up? If we all bought bitcoin, and held the coin with diamond hands, then our Long perps position (betting it will go up) pays off. Not only that, but Kalshi is offering this thing where you can multiply the volume on your position x6 for BTC, and x2-4 for other coins.

bunky_bunk

If the bank computer tells you you have to pick a new password, does that make you lose trust in the bank? Nakamoto has one year to "change his password". You think he shouldn't be bothered. On the other hand, everyone should be willing to donate 5% of the BTC wealth to quantum computer developers.

gordonfr_

I wouldn‘t leave bitcoin on any crypto exchange, but I trust in the big ETF issuers. ETF or BTC is for me a tax question.

RN_in_Illinois

I'm not sure about Fidelity, but at Schwab, my choices are to buy IBIT ETF for free with a .25% annual fee for the ETF. If it is truly a long-term hold, then I can buy BTC directly through them with no markup, but a one-time .75% transaction fee. Holding for more than 6 years (given .75% to buy and sell) would be the factor that would favor BTC instead of IBIT. I've gone with IBIT because, 1. I do sell covered calls way out of the money and make a few additional % each year to buy more IBIT, and 2. I live in Illinois. Our awesome state government and governor just signed a .2% tax on all crypto transactions - and once a tax is passed in Illinois, it historically has been raised whenever they need more money. And with the largest collection of unfunded pensions, in the country, Illinois will ALWAYS need more money over time.

Jogi1811

I'm currently in a tanked ETF (MSTE) in Canada trading at $1.84 after close. All time high for BTC was $126k in 2025 and MSTE was around $19. The reason I chose MSTE because there are two paths to generate money. One, being capital gains. BTC will probably double its value in 2029. Where as MSTE has a potential chance to gain much more. Maybe 6 or 7x my average cost per share. Two is the dividends that MSTE pays out. Let's say MSTE does not reach my price target or I wait too long as it drops. The ETF will still pay me a large dividend each month that will fluctuate with the price per share but still is substantial to me. My DCA starts at the low point of BTC and will stop at the halving. I will just continue it during the next cycle and see if I hit my price target then. This is my approach but I feel I might be downvoted for it.

moviemaker2

This is very important to know: You are sooooo much more likely to lose your BTC by trying to self custody too early than you are by leaving it on an exchange. Vastly more people have lost funds from errors in self custody than have lost funds from exchange failures. And if you count only the 'modern era' of the past 8 or so years, you're ***vastly*** more likely to lose from self custody as a newbie. People will parrot "not your keys but not your coins", but they're also not your coins ones someone access your seed phrase and drains your wallet because you didn't see the harm in storing the seed phrase in your password manager.

Deez1putz

The more people buy in an ETF the more BTC loses several of it’s value proposition.

Decibel0753

"Do not really care about having “full ownership of the BTC” I think enough exchanges have gone bankrupt or been hacked, and enough people have lost everything, for you to care about this very real risk.

PeaceAgitated1978

Lesson for that message, it's kind of time to stop seeing your net worth in dollars and start seeing it in BTC or sats accumulated. Like a true BTC maximalist

PeaceAgitated1978

I definitely agree with you, 💯 I liked that. But some strategies are better than others.. fiscally speaking.. Why pay cap gains on BTC if you have a TSFA empty and ETF exists 🤔🤷🤣

PeaceAgitated1978

Deal with it that you had a Delta neutral edge in short next time.. just to make sure you never lose these gains.. never sell. Always buy spot. Always treat it as a trade. And when a trade is too risky to stay open, you close some portions of it to capture your gains.. only now you have a strategy that allows you to never sell. Since you capture gains by opening a short that will pay you. All these cap. Gains you made during the ascention. To later be reinvested at the bottom of the Bear market or close to it. You need discipline to rule your wallet the way I described. You need good signal also, to know when to open or close positions. You need to know how to properly Trade. Not gambling your money in emotionals decisions. You need convictions that Bitcoin future is really as good as we all think as BTC maximalists.. Next step is passing to actions and actually implementing the strategy. Learn to be a rich before you have a wallet like they does. Otherwise you won't ever be able to manage such type of capitals in your own wallet. And therefore you won't stay rich for long 🤷🤣

WishboneSudden2706

In 2022 I sold all my BTC at 21k, after buying at 17k two months before.

Terrible-Roof-3956

Not your keys, Not your Crypto. Si mantienes tu BTC fuera de línea es intocable, fin. Por eso no compartas tus 12 palabras con NADIE. Si vas a largo plazo lo conveniente es una COLD WALLET. Si tenes una parte que pensas venderlo en pocos meses usa una billetera caliente, conectada a internet. Si usas ese dinero para comprar y vender a diario, usas el Xchange.

Zestyclose-Suit-2858

I don't plan on selling. So there is no regret, because there was no mistake. You couldn't have doubled your BTC, because you don't know what the market will do. It's such basic logic that I do wonder if you should play in money markets at all. Grow up!

Prestigious_Long777

What regret? What would I have sold for? I’d rather have BTC than USD or any other FIAT currency and I don’t like gambling.

xaviemb

When it eventually reaches $1m in your lifetime, will it really matter? Looking backwards, timing entry to fiat, and back to BTC seems so easy and obvious... in reality, most who attempt it end up with a lot less Bitcoin (and fiat) in the long run because they tried.

Critical_Deer_1892

https://preview.redd.it/gdfvz0g439ch1.png?width=3420&format=png&auto=webp&s=6335541ecf83eb109a90fe9da0e611c0ba616f6d ETF flows are starting to diverge. BTC ETFs: -$84.9M latest flow ETH ETFs: +$70.5M latest flow BTC still holds the larger AUM, but ETH is showing cleaner short-term demand here.

OldDomainer

Wow, 3,588 BTC sold by the man who once defined corporate HODLing. It’s a reminder that leverage comes with obligations and direct BTC ownership doesn’t. So be it you hold with **CoinDepo** or in a cold wallet, understanding how your Bitcoin is held matters. But the one question I have is, is this a one-time sale or the start of a recurring trend?

Mrvette1

Why would you want too? Repurchase. Take your profits and buy something real. You are a winner. When the number of foolish folks turn away from BTC it will never come back. Trends and fundamentals are out the door. The soul reason BTC has any value is because enough people have faith in it. Its only based on that. Everything else has a demand for other reasons. I see BTC going down with small bounces up. You'll see BTC at 15k before you see 150k.

OldDomainer

Stablecoins might actually be crypto’s cleanest product-market fit so far. Not everyone wants to trade every candle. Some people just want a simple way to hold value, move funds, and earn passively without dealing with 20 wallets and smart contract risks. That’s why CeFi platforms still make sense for beginners. I’ve been looking at platforms like CoinDepo because they make BTC/ETH/SOL/USDT yield feel simple, especially with fixed-rate options. Crypto doesn’t always have to be about chasing the next 100x. Sometimes the real use case is just making your assets work quietly.

ElderMight

>I'm constantly thinking I could have doubled my BTC in a single year. This is gambling. Keep it simple man. Stay humble. Stack sats. Hold your own keys. Read The Bitcoin Standard. Learn a new skill and create value for the world. Lift weights. Eat red meat and vegetables. Enjoy life with family and friends.

ScopulyX

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Some people keep BTC as a core position while allocating a smaller portion to higher-growth opportunities.

aluculef

This dip was my entry to BTC. Really happy with the sale!

JeremyLinForever

You make peace by knowing that the human mind and psychology plays a long way. If you sold at the top and think you could buy more at its low right now, you will never think what would’ve happened if you sold and it went higher just for you to limp in at ATH and acquire less Bitcoin overall then you would have had? Everybody wishes they sold the top and buy the bottom, but the reality is that everybody, even Bitcoin OGs that buy at the very bottom, see a parabolic bull run for BTC and will almost always limp in at the top because the market forces are just too powerful for them to ignore. It’s for that exact reason why so many Buttcoiners are prevalent. They get burned so bad by missing out on gains that they made it a personal mission to bash on it, lose sleep over it, and hate it - because they either lost money in it or they could’ve had life changing money and freedom but chose not to.

bunky_bunk

Nakamoto has absolute sovereingty to save his coins. A real sovereign has to lift a finger now and then. Does BTC guarantee that i will not be kidnapped and tortured for my passphrase. If I leave my front door unlocked? That is amazing.

StraightPromise3596

Once a month, when I get paid. After paying rent and everything else I do 25% for leisure, 25% for emergencies, and 50% for BTC.

Numerous_Ad_6142

The key is to focus on creating income in other ways so you dont have to rely on BTC or other investments. 

Jogi1811

I invest in dividend paying BTC ETFs for this reason. If my investment does not reach a $ limit I set I continue to collect dividends until next cycle. I DCA during low points and stop at halving. Both strategies work out with dividends paying less over time versus selling and diversifying my portfolio with the lump sum I get from selling the BTC ETFs.

rizzlejee

I only started buying at that point. And now I'm continuing to DCA all the way down and will continue all the way up too. And HODL forever until I can use my BTC to pay for my expenses

Bogdanoff_dump_it

I buy BTC while saving fiat for future dips. I’m using a spreadsheet to track every purchase. The lower we go, the more I buy. The formulas in my spreadsheet calculate how much I should buy and save, depending on the current BTC price. Feel free to steal my method here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11t6tfKVL6jFSELJq\_\_j8ILmnos9XHDZcxv7Jgr0exhM/edit?usp=drivesdk

No_Swimmer_115

How would've you felt if BTC kept pushing to 250k til today and you had sold of what you thought was the top and now you have 0 btc bc you sold it all? Hindsight is 20/20. If you're a believer hodl and dca during bear markets. No one knows how price action will be tmrw. If and when BTC hits 500k, how many pple will look back and be glad they got in at 120k?

Milksteak_Sandwich

Bought last year at $112 and DCA'd down to 80. Held when it went down to 65 but then sold for a loss when it went back up to 75. Since then I've taken that money and have made 20% on MU stock while BTC has gone down another 20%. Hoping to offset profit on MU with the loss on BTC and then buy back into BTC sometime in the next 4 months whenever we get the next big drop. I may be wrong, but this is my strategy. Still bullish on BTC long term.

Billkr

The whole point of DCA is not to time the market but to purchase a little bit at a time over a long period of time. Heck, some of my DCA buys were at over $100,000 BTC price while some are below $50,000. It all averages out in the long run. The expression "Time in market will beat timing the market" is true. I have DCA set up to purchase roughly $50 a day. I simply stopped going out to dinner each night and put it in BTC instead.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Job news has been great! Stocks are flying! And BTC is fly...nope it only went from $62K to $63K, and now already struggling to hold $63K.

fucken_jim

I went all in in september... I wish i'd have waited until now. But... I am still all in. Any extra goes to BTC

Mrvette1

BTC isn't an investment. Its gambling. Its not rare (18 million of them), it doesn't actually do anything. Nobody needs BTC. You can't eat it, burn it, or collect interest on it.

Mrvette1

That someone is me. I recall a Thanksgiving conversation about 15 years ago when BTC hit $600. I told my family I wouldn't touch it. Was that wrong. Sure. But if I had that risky mentality I probably would of invested in a hundred different things like BTC which 95% of them go to near zero. At that time of that Thanksgiving I was investing in real estate. Buying foreclosures (2-3 a year) and rehabbing them and renting. So by money did very well. Just because BTC was a winner doesn't mean it will always be a winner. Nobody needs BTC. Everyone needs housing. Everyone needs to eat.

DV_Zero_One

10k BTC to buy a slice of bread? I don't think it'll go that low. Maybe parity with the dogshit RON perhaps.

ChangeHeroOfficial

BTC's still the easiest "sleep well at night" allocation, other stuff moves faster but also unwinds faster

Ok-Fun119

To say BTC or other decentralized cryptos are not being used is just wrong. What people are using today doesn't really indicate what they will be using in the future. Also, so many people have a problem with not being able to control their money and governments devaluing their money by printing more. Apart from gold, which has always had value in all of recorded human history, there hasn't really been a way to have decentralized money. It might take 20, 40, 80, 100+ years, but a decentralized open currency will become mainstream globally at some point. It might take a WW2-like event, but it's coming.

dasdatt

Same guy who said he’d never sell BTC? Sounds like someone trying to get everyone to panic buy because he knows he’s finished if they don’t.

PracticePenguin

BTC is unaffected by this

WKCLC

4% BTC, 30% property, 60% stocks, 6% personal property

FunkyGrass

that's the thing, you didn't have to pay the website really. You would meet in person with a stranger that put for sale their BTC there, the sale goes recorded just like you were buying something on marketplace. Not sure why it isn't operating anymore but given that BTC is more and more a legitimate financial instrument, I think it's normal these places disappear, unfortunately.... Another one is Bisq but I never used it, I downloaded the client but maybe do some more research about that.

WorkerPlayful4192

How much BTC there?

Suspicious_One_825

I don't know how much BTC you own and for how long you plan to own it, but a facebook password is not the same as a seed phrase for me. Good luck!

wjean

It could poison his address/wallet. You co-mingle existing BTC with new BTC received from a mixer or has otherwise been blacklisted and both the old and new BTC will be considered compromised. Good luck with that if you ever send it to an exchange to turn back into Fiat.

MyOtherActGotBanned

You’re asking good questions and the comments are trying to farm upvotes instead of helping you. You’re right, it’s much safer to hold a hot wallet than keeping BTC on an exchange. But you are prone to risks. Your phone could get stolen or hacked. Your password manager could get compromised. Your keys are stored on an internet connected device which comes with risks. If you don’t have life changing money stored on your blue wallet you’re probably fine. But just know that you are prone to getting the keys stolen unless you store them offline on a cold wallet and physical backup. I would take your keys off the password manager though. I know it’s encrypted but it’s not adding any layer of security than your physical backup.

moviemaker2

Assuming this is a genuine question, yes a cold wallet is better, obviously. That doesn't mean you can't have both. I keep a day-to-day amount in my phone wallet for quick transfers, but the bulk is on hardware wallets and spread across multiple exchanges. Someone stealing your phone is ***NOT*** the same risk to your BTC as to your bank account. If someone gains access to your bank account from your phone, it's nearly impossible for them to transfer funds without leaving a trace - and even if they could, the funds are recoverable because the bank is the ultimate custodian - the responsibility is on them. But if someone gains access to your wallet from your phone, those funds are gone. It doesn't really even matter if you can see what address they went to, you have no recourse. A phone wallet opens you up to other attack vectors. There was a post here the other day where a user copied their seed phrase from one wallet app to another. Both wallet apps were sandboxed - but the clipboard wasn't. All funds drained in the course of about a minute.

WarDaddyPUKA

> I bought this in 2018 and will sell for less than what I paid Yeah, definitely not the right person to write a BTC guide lol.

veskald

Everything points to the same thing: this isn't the spot to be long. The place is 61,000–61,300. Thats where the 1.36K wall sits, where the green zone is, and there's basically nothing in the book between here and there - so price can drop into it fast (the fresh 4h red flag makes that pullback pretty likely). Don't buy the level blind though. Wait for the feed to react - a green flag on 1h or 4h after the zone gets hit, and the wall still standing. If that 1.36K starts disappearing as price gets close, forget the trade - it was bait. Straight up without a pullback is still on the table too - the daily streak and the 15m back it. But we only trust it if price holds above 63,600 and the asks at 64-65k start getting eaten or pulled (there's barely anything there, 63+51+76 BTC). Once that happens the empty book works for the bulls - nothing but zones between there and 66k, no actual orders in the way. One thing kills the whole bullish idea: 61,000 breaks and the wall gets eaten. Next real bids are all the way down at 57–58k, and the daily green streak dies with it. https://preview.redd.it/tlkm0rr6h7ch1.png?width=3774&format=png&auto=webp&s=9184ff389fe6728cd761645b74cb6416e1f9fb24

SkyEnvironmental7746

Because BTC is not likely to die. Which means Flare won’t die because it’s attached to it.

TheMaharishiEffect

Why have a crypto tied to BTC... not just buy BTC 😆

WastelandOfConfusion

Not sure how to tell you this, but BTC hasn’t bottomed yet. It’s far from it.

Electrical-Cat-6660

I always get the same rate…1BTC to 1BTC

ExactWasabi7693

Charts can say one thing and BTC still decides to do the opposite

ProfitableCheetah

They sending BTC to Mars?

Realistic_Fee_00001

BTC didn't care much about decentralization beyond that they needed to to cripple the blocksize for it 😄🤪

DebugDiag

I’m sticking for now with BTC and XMR.

Extreme_Trip6773

The interesting part isn't just buying BTC, it's having ways to express the whole macro view. I've found myself using Ostium for that instead of jumping across multiple platforms.

cyger

Pretty much agree. We've heard 99% of Alts will go to zero, more like 99.999. There will be very few winners. I've sold most of my alts after the 10/10 BS last fall. Even my BTC I've converting to AI stocks over the last couple of years. Maybe Solona has a chance we will see.

SimpleAromatic2128

I wish BTC was $9,000!

GIGAbtcHodl

bought at that price but an average is still around $60k per BTC.

mlag000

Except BTC has no hype anymore and no one talk about it. Wanna invest in high volatility high profit ? Buy IA, it has real potential whole crypto has absolutely still no use case.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Ugh, I spent money at 7 different places in Singapore today, 2 restaurants, 2 clothing stores and 3 food/gift stores. 0 of them had an option to pay in Bitcoin. I bet zero of them had an option to pay in Zimbabwean dollars, Turkish lira or Argentinian pesos. >And if I needed to send BTC, I would have to get my hardware wallet, which is somewhere in NYC, and link it up to a computer and then spend it. If you left all your cards and cash in your home safe **which is somewhere in NYC**, how difficult would paying in the shops become? You're comparing a cold wallet (home safe) to a spending wallet running on r/thelightningnetwork (the cash or card in your pocket). Do you see the difference? >It's objectively less convenient for most transactions. Financial privilege or not... Not for millions of unbanked people, living in third world countries. Financial privilege at its best, mate.