BTC

SimpleMoonFarmer

Still one of the best tools to escape financial repression and take your wealth as you flee a country. Politicians will continue to be a PoS (safest bet), BTC is there to help you.

BloodWillow

In the very, very unlikely (nearly impossible) event where the entire Global power grid is down, some people/communities would still be able to generate power through generators, hydropower and solar. In addition, mesh networks and HAM radio stations would fill the gap for communications/data relay. [Here's an article that addresses some of the problems, challenges and solutions currently available.](https://d-central.tech/bitcoin-beyond-boundaries-transmitting-through-radio-waves/) >Bitcoin’s transport layer diversity is growing. In 2026, we have satellite downlinks, LoRa mesh networks, shortwave relay, and experimental protocols all providing alternatives to plain internet TCP/IP. The [network hashrate](https://d-central.tech/mining-glossary/network-hashrate/) has crossed 1 zettahash per second. Difficulty has surged past 144 trillion. The block reward sits at 3.125 BTC following the April 2024 halving. Bitcoin is more robust, more distributed, and more resilient than ever. Long story short, if humanity survives, Bitcoin survives.

TargP

Nobody's forcing anything; it's available as an option. Wallet-to-wallet via Lightning Network. You know, the whole peer-to-peer, no intermediary thing? The whole thesis of Bitcoin?  I do think the community would welcome an education from you on why BTC without Visa and "normal payments" is inferior, though 👍

raynhornzxz

jeg har ikke fått noen epost varsel, heller ikke inne i binance, og jeg har lånt 200k for ordren jeg kjøpte i isolated margin trade (USDC/BTC), men blir litt nervøs nå i tilfelle jeg blir tvunget til å måtte selge med tap før prisen rekker å gå opp igjen.

Mariahausfrau

ETH is alt like it or not. BTC is BTC and everything else is alts and they follow BTC. Just hold it many years enough and you realize BTC is the only choice.

MECO-420

With 17 months of USD in reserve to cover the dividends, if they sell BTC now, its to buy back STRC or MSTR at a discount. Why shouldnt Saylor buy back STRC at $80 or $90 when they sold it at $100?

Disastrous_Camp6869

Unless the government decides to move towards a Central Bank Digital Currency (off the table til 2030 for now). This would mean every transaction is monitored by the government. This includes corporations. CBDCs would be sold as a way to “provide transparency” and “end financial criminal activity” and there are countless positives that would be the selling points… until the govt decides to put limits on your credits, give relief packages you have to spend or lose to bolster the economy, take fines and taxes directly from your account at will, etc. It would be masked as security, but at the cost of freedom. Should that happen or even be discussed, BTC will rise significantly.

newMoneyStyle

lmao true, BTC has basically become the global risk-on barometer. Anything sneezes in tradfi or tech and crypto catches the flu first

Kitchen_Net_GME

Over time you never know. BTC is a speculative asset. As an investment you hope someone down the road will pay more for it than you. And historically that has always worked as of 2025. Will that speculation pay off again? No one knows. Hence it being speculative. What’s crazy is it keeps going up, despite its lack of mainstream utility (as you said with the TSLA example). So this is a play that historically keeps going up without utility. And hypothetically, if utility does manifest then you could argue it will also go up for those reasons. Seems like a fair play. Only “bet” what you can afford. But seems like a pretty good thing.

EmJay6010

Hard lesson to learn but many make it. Never trade based on emotion (sentiment). Have a plan, follow it, adjust as needed. But have a system and follow it. If you want to trade BTC like a stock asset, then trade it like its an asset. Have your stop losses at technical points you have set, buy back at planned buy back points that is supported by whatever technical data you have or beliwve. Or if you are a believer, and plan is to HODL, invest only money you are prepared to lose and not impact your life. That way when you see the price drop, and like a big portion of BTC holders currently, are underwater, you are less tempted to make emotional trades as it was money you were prepared to lose anyways

No_Toe710

Real estate is expensive to hold because decent returns require leverage, in addition to RE taxes. And like other hard assets (gold, silver, etc) is tough to move without absorbing huge fees. BTC has no holding costs, and can be used as collateral for a loan that close in hours. Not weeks or months. It’s cheap to hold, easy to move, and does not require a ton of humans or silly fees to finance.

somethingimadeup

Everyone wants to make BTC to keep going up but also says they want things priced in sats. That will only happen with a stable price. You can have one of these things.

V_rddit_ot_2007-ma

If you are not selling your pants to go into BTC right now, you don't deserve to be on this subreddit.

nikko_at_autheo

This will be great for the crypto industry for sure. But the guy also predicted BTC to be at 350k in 2024.

HSuke

It's $1.25B on top of another $1B for STRC buybacks and $1B for MSTR buybacks. So about 55000 BTC total.

viberama977

ETH too tied to BTC price. BTC is a shitshow right now, so ETH will suffer because of BTC.

Dukeintheplace

This feels more like treasury management than a change in conviction. If they're selling some BTC to support dividends, buybacks, or maintain liquidity while still holding a massive position, that's very different from abandoning their longterm Bitcoin thesis.

thebalancewithin

This is VERY bad for both BTC and the stock market

GrossFleshSack

And that's WITH all of the money they have printed in the last decade. But somehow the dollar is even stronger than before. After all the leverage and liquidations finish tanking those markets(people investing in crypto tend to be a little more risk happy), I'm sure it will come back strong. BTC, eth, silver, gold. Also depends whether the fed decides to tighten or just let inflation run wild.

Forward-Article724

totally agree. I remember last cycle in 2022 and 2023 when it was at 20K I wanted to buy in but I was broke just out of college. Now that its near the bottom again at 60k I finally bought in. So when 2028, 2029 comes around it will reach a new ATH. This is because every 4 years BTC halves.

Infinite-Captain5104

They didn’t. Saylor sold exactly 32BTC of his 800k+ horde. He said in an interview he may do so to “inoculate the market” to the idea that he may sell some some day (as the move will be misunderstood by people who just read the headlines, like the one above you). He’s since bought hundreds more.

PeaceAgitated1978

All you had to do is borrow against your BTC and buy the dip with it. Come one be serious about it. If not a true believer in the asset, get the f out and leave. But yeah it's like a drug . Bet y'all he is coming right back in when his convictions got back on track.. with less than he would have had if followed the plan.. 🤷 he deserves to loose returns on investments since he's faith is weak..

stellarfirefly

It can store $50,000 worth of USD fiat currency more easily at $50,000 than at $5,000. Insert any values here. If in doubt, imagine trying to buy $1 billion worth of BTC when it's value was under $1000. Yet today, dozens of institutions including corporate treasuries, exchanges, and sovereign governments hold that amount when valued in USD.

Scorpio_2020

go ahead and downvote my motivation banner, I could care less lol. Maybe share your thoughts on BTC instead?

Scorpio_2020

Pretending I found something how? Literally said I am showing the engine that says BTC whales are accumulating. That's it!

PopLegion

Bears making liquidation event scenarios is retarded yes. What is much more likely is MSTR becomes a perpetual seller of BTC for years on end as they never recapture 1.0 mnav, and BTC needs to deal with a constant downwards pressure for years. If saylor can't raise money through ATM offerings of MSTR or STRC, 1.5 billion a year minimum of selling from saylor. Def worth keeping in mind if you are long BTC. As for MSTR and STRC investors today, I feel sorry for them. I'm sure many made money, but the ones left will become bagholders.

LoveHateMachine85

Strategy holds roughly **847,000 BTC**. The authorization is to monetize **up to $1.25 billion** if needed. At today’s depressed prices, that’s only around **20,000 BTC**. That’s roughly **2-3%** of their holdings. So this is **not** an announcement that they’re dumping their entire treasury.

TeachingAncient2798

maybe it's a bear trap strategy, when everyone is selling Saylor will buy a lot of BTC and kills the bears

bitsteiner

USD is a fiat currency like any other. BTC is not like any other shitcoin. There is a big difference.

Drakoolya

I wouldn't touch any alts till atleast late this year to next year. Alts keep losing against BTC through the Bear markert.

No_Toe710

US Treasuries cannot be lived in like real estate, and they pay a negative yield when adjusted for inflation. Yet, there is plenty of demand for this product. In part because there is low counterparty risk with the issuer. With BTC there is zero counterparty risk.

JohnnyStrides

Bag holding? My ACB in ETH is $450 and on BTC is under $1K ;) I've been in this a very long time. There could be a total crypto collapse and I'd still be in the green. You sure aren't that bright eh

HSuke

Basic mNAV is a very simple formula: (total MSTR mcap) / (total value of BTC held) Their website shows enterprise mNAV, which they quietly switched to late 2025. All 3 types of mNAV can be found here https://bitcointreasuries.net/public-companies/strategy

JohnnyStrides

Why would I sell my BTC? It's the only coin that's actually doing anything meaningful. I have a few ETH I should probably unload but my ACB is so low I might as well ride it out. I certainly won't be stupid enough to buy any alts, that ship sailed long ago.

IShootWide

Frankly, I’d sell it all. Trump, Saylor, these guys can afford to loose their entire BTC holdings. Can you? Don't be the last guy holding.

IShootWide

Well, I guess so. I mean if you count the bodega on the corner. You keep making yourself feel better brother. When you have EVERY BTC treasury executive finally admitting that it will never be used “but don’t worry, now it’s storage of wealth” I am absolutely positive that you know better than them my little internet friend. You should be in charge of the world.

No_Balls_No_Glory

Question, why sell the land ? Isn't smarter to keep the land, use equity from it then buy more BTC or metals ?

Automaton9000

Lol why not monero or something similar at that point? An untraceable BTC seems like a lot of work to both buy and sell. And it could ultimately still potentially be traced.

GoldmezAddams

A couple things wrong with that. For one, trade is not zero sum, it is positive sum. Both sides value the other side of the trade more than their own or else they would not voluntarily make the trade. Both sides walk away with more subjective value (the only kind of value) than they started with. There does not need to be a loser or a "correct side" of the trade. Additionally, there is not a fixed amount of value / money in bitcoin. As demand to hold bitcoin balances grows, the market cap / value of the entire pie can grow. The price of bitcoin can rise with demand and one could gain purchasing power (or dollars, if we have to go there) from it, without someone else having to have bought high and sold low. Nobody had to lose a trillion dollars for BTC to reach a trillion dollar market cap.

BigMeatyProlapse

Congrats man, this exactly mirrors my timeline with BTC and ETH. Bought around 35K and 1.575K average prices per coin, respectively, and sold in November around 120K and 3.8K. Seven figure profit. Nobody wants to here it but I am out for good and expect a BTC low of 45K. Don't even care about ETH at this point, nothing but BTC matters for speculation or usefulness (ie money laundering).

pappa4484

he already sold a few BTC. now he gonna sell a lot more

Enough_Background777

I don't buy crypto, but BTC has to be near the bottom rn. It's held up quite well, IMO

john_wilkesboof

Especially when the military has a BTC miner now lmfao plus when quantum cracks the last coins like an egg

OldHamburger7923

You don't understand BTC. It doesn't matter what it costs. The point is the ability to transfer without a third party. And we can subdivide it further if sats become too valuable in USD by adding additional values after the decimal.

john_wilkesboof

Um if I had a million dollars I wouldn't mess with BTC anything last 50,000 I get one coin at that price and do real estate or something 🤣 I hit 6bdigits and honestly haven't boughten one sat just because I don't feel like I need to take risks anymore

ubermensch1001

Isn't it amazing how stupid these people are? They have 18 months worth of cash to cover dividends and this is move here allows them to sell a small portion of their BTC if they absolutely need to. Literally talking about the possibility of selling 2-3% of their stack at current prices if they really need. Most of these people don't understand how Strategy works.

EndSmugnorance

If untraceable self-custody is your goal, why not Monero? It’s quite undervalued compared to BTC.

unknowngloomth

I'm currently sitting on unrealized profits. This one coin has been performing well in this bear. Holding steady during BTC dips and getting adoption..

MetaGryphon

Why owning BTC if it is to never sell them? At the end, profit is in fiat , not bitcoin.

r2cyp

People see BTC green one day and think we are back. True gamble addicts https://i.redd.it/vpmpj6emiaah1.gif

tenor_tymir

Nah, see that’s where you are wrong. Strategy buys BTC that is already on existence and not newly minted directly from miners.

TaltineDawn

The “death spiral” narrative sounds clean on paper, but it leaves out a few important realities. First, MicroStrategy isn’t a forced-liquidation fund. Their debt structure is long-dated and mostly not margin-style. That matters because it removes the immediate “price goes down —> instant liquidation” mechanic that actually creates true spirals. Second, the preferred dividends and obligations are real, but they’re not automatically “must sell BTC tomorrow” triggers. They have multiple levers: issuing equity when conditions allow, refinancing, restructuring maturities, or using operating cash flows from the software business. It may be uncomfortable, but it’s not a binary trapdoor. Third, the idea that selling a small portion of BTC automatically causes a cascading collapse assumes a very fragile market. Bitcoin’s liquidity is deep enough now that even large sellers tend to be absorbed over time, especially if it’s structured and not panic driven. Also worth noting: the “they broke the never sell rule with 32 BTC” point is mostly symbolic noise. That wasn’t a structural shift, it was housekeeping-level movement, not evidence of a new liquidation strategy. The real risk with MicroStrategy isn’t a guaranteed doom loop, it’s leverage plus volatility. If BTC has a long, deep drawdown, their equity can underperform badly and funding gets harder. That part is valid. But “automatic spiral to zero” requires conditions that aren’t actually hard-wired into their balance sheet. So it’s not a ticking time bomb in a mechanical sense. It’s more like a highly leveraged bet on Bitcoin that can survive a lot, but would get ugly if the downside lasts long enough.

Key-Rutabaga-3572

bot what? Asking a question, that's the best argument. BTC value is speculative so far

AdmitThatYouPrune

The USD is the most widely used currency in the world (almost $10 trillion in transactions daily). The problem with your analogy is that BTC isn't really functioning as a currency. It's functioning as a speculative asset.

Sea-Macaron-4964

It can survive, but there will definitely have to be some adjustments in energy consumption. At residential electric rates, it's gonna be tight, especially since we all know that residential is the first place power companies come after when they want to cut electricity usage. Reducing that power demand is gonna be key. I suspect a lot of it is going to come down to consolidation, kind of like what hosted mining companies are doing, bringing everybody's rigs together in a place where the electric costs are lower, but instead bringing everybody's rigs together in a place where the power is plentiful. Since you've got BTC hosts like Epic Mining running off green energy already, I imagine this being the wave of the future - instead of solo mining off your residential power supply, I could see groups of people linking up and creating solar or hydro power centers where they can group mine. I don't think it's going anywhere as long as miners are willing to adapt and innovate, and i think the best miners are doing that already.

JohnnyStrides

Leverage will always exist and be applied to most investment vehicles. If you want BTC to crash just to shake Saylor out do you really think there won't be another treasury that just plays things slightly differently?

oki_sauce

You should watch a video about how to use it and how cold wallets in general are used and why they are used. Dont get sucked into the meme coin trap (assuming youre planning on buying crypto) start with BTC and the further you go down the line, the more risk youre taking on.

Calenwyr

The price needs to stabilise before it could be used as currency the price of things doubling ir halving every few months makes it impossible to use as currency. Imagine you got paid 2 BTC a year (6 months ago your wage was 240k and now its 120k) 6 months from now you could be on 180k or 60k per year who knows. That uncertainty makes it non-viable as a currency. It becoming a currency would be against the interest of probably 90% of the current holders and so its not likely to happen.

JohnnyStrides

But either is only worth as much as people want to own it... and BTC wins in that category. It's the more desirable baseball card.

Reach_Beyond

When in doubt BTC dip.

nafnaf0

Yep. They can now fund MSTR stock buybacks by monetizing BTC. Because MSTR shares often gets depressed far more than Bitcoin during the bottom of bear markets, selling BTC at bottoming to repurchase those heavily discounted shares creates value for the common shareholders. It is an active treasury maneuver capitalizing on market volatility and buyback discounts to structurally increase shareholder value when it is most advantageous.

Reach_Beyond

If BTC goes back up and this continues for years. He could surpass madoff level of fraud. Not saying it’s all a fraud, for cryptos sake we don’t want that.

Ace2021

Went mainly for the BTC transaction but wasn’t disappointed in the food at all.

Ace2021

Three Bitcoin burger combos, one single combo, two shakes, and a Red Bull type drink my other friend got. I paid in BTC for the novelty and to show friends, they paid me back then I rebought the BTC via River exchange. Just shows how fiat inflation is ridiculous. If BTC price was near ATHs this would cost half the sats though.

Ace2021

I hope so! Also, I replaced the BTC after purchase just in case. Keep in mind 90k sats was for the shake + multiple meals.

etaoin314

whoever told you that was probably trying to sell you more mstr stock. The only way that works is if they can get spot price for their entire stack with no slippage. If you think that is true, let me tell you about a lucrative investment in my bridge, that I will open up just to you for a very special price. seriously, though, I dont see how you can believe that narrative after the last few weeks. they sold 32 btc and it dropped several %. maybe causal, maybe coincidence, either way it did not give any credence to the idea that they could actually monitize their stack. that is the only way that they can survive for any length of time. Bitcoin does not generate cashflow, their business, is negative cashflow, so that means they have to sell something, either stock, preferreds, or BTC. Nobody is buying the first two when bitcoin is on the ropes and falling, and if they sell the BTC that makes the first two even more unattractive. Right now the only thing that saves them is a sudden massive influx of investment into bitcoin....from somewhere. barring that, they are cooked, maybe not today, maybe it takes a year or two, but the way I see it is that the cycle is their final hope. If the cycle holds true and we hit bottom in the next few months and then recover and reach new ATH, then great, congrats your mistr will be worth a fortune. If the cycle breaks they are cooked.

wolfenstein734

Im assuming they sell BTC to buy back STRC then resume buying BTC by issuing MSTR?

bambil00

I'd say the bigger risk is a nasty economy, not one random regulation headline. If jobs get hit hard and people need cash, some holders won't be selling because they want to, they will be selling because they have to. That kind of pressure would test BTC way more than the usual government noise.

ratpH1nk

Except their share price where is behaves like a high proxy beta and declines more than the actual BTC price drop. So the first thing that has happened is stock price. >540$ in 11/2024 to \~90$ now? Next up is this Strategy prepares to sell up to $1.25 billion of Bitcoin (thestreet.com). That’s not part of the plan, for sure.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

2024 was after an over-exhausted bear market, and when things started to breakout and get bullish. Selling in 2025 in the middle of a bear market would have a lot more consequences. Look at how the market freaked out over him selling just 32 BTC.

Abject-Stretch-1187

You’re an idiot. We don’t all buy BTC for the same reasons. 

Gears6

Yup. I agree with the, /u/Gastenns, but at it's essence it's still very similar. It's just the footprint is different. Crypto, especially BTC has very limited utility, whereas stocks i.e. ownership in companies tend to have much wider utility. Anyhow, I'm banking on crypto people not understanding it to make money. 😜

Adventurous_Wrap_712

Why force direct BTC acceptance though? In most places it seems easier to use something like Oobit and pay through Visa rails, while the merchant still gets a normal payment

BaldBear_13

If you are buying, somebody is selling. If BTC keeps growing steadily, then yes, everybody can profit. But BTC does not grow steadily. It dropped to ~$60K now, and last time it was that low was in 2024. So when you are buying it from somebody today, what are the chances that they bought it before 2024, did not sell it in 2025, but are selling it today?

xcrunner2414

Ha, I’ll be buying your Bitcoin! I’m prepared to buy another $15k worth of BTC when/if the price approaches $50k /BTC.

Ididitforthelulzzz

Hindsight is 20/20. If you think owning BTC is a ponzi scheme then you are missing the mark.

stellarfirefly

A. Don't try to time the market. B. Don't let your emotions make your financial decisions. C. If you can't do A and B, then perhaps BTC isn't the best investment for you. Consider the S&P, perhaps? If you'd have done that 5 years ago, then you would be seeing a +72% gain today, which is quite good for something as reasonably safe as it is.

Ididitforthelulzzz

When Binance knocked over Luna and later FTX completely out of the game, they massively profited. You can make the same argument that their clients own the BTC and not them. They still did it anyway. I don't follow your argument here.

BennyOcean

His real problem is that this whole bitcoin strategy is stupid. He should have just loaded up on AI stocks and especially the semiconductor suppliers. If he was a real visionary he would have identified the booming market opportunity. Instead he sat with billions tied up in a declining value asset. He is no visionary. If he was a visionary he would have bought BTC when it was sub-$1000. Again, his whole strategy regarding crypto and how to profit off it has been stupid and doomed to failure from the start.

UpbeatFix7299

When meme stock conspiracy theories start showing up, that's always a great sign. Financial companies like blackrock don't want their BTC. Because they don't own BTC. Their clients do. Just like the company that manages your 401k doesn't own the investments you have in it. I don't know why this is hard to understand for the "durr these few companies own 88% of all stocks" crowd.

OkRip7540

The protocol currently prints 13,500 BTC per month. Strategy buys on average 16,500 BTC per month. If Strategy stops buying BTC, that will have a huge impact on BTC prices. We're currently in a downturn - now is not a good time for them to be selling BTC

No1orangepilled

BTC is an experimental setup, not the experiment itself; it's running now for the first time as an experiment. Once/if it's finished, the experimental design will remain for further attempts to run this experiment.

OkRip7540

I mean, they don't include treasury bonds as equity either. In it's simplest form, the biggest issue was Strategy carrying something like $7.5 billion in corporate debt with less than a billion in cash reserves. The proper fix is to raise cash reserves which they are doing through stock dilution. Strategy doesn't need to sell any BTC to earn a better rating, they can just sell equity to continue raising cash

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Pretty much every week there's some bull saying "this is definitely the bottom" or just making fun of people for shorting, and pretty much every week I make more money from shorts.🤷‍♂️ It's been free money. And with that free money, I'll be buying BTC for free, twice a month, starting in September, or if it goes below $45K (about -65% from ATH). Whichever comes first. That's strategy. Take some notes Saylor.

SilverPrivateer

One month ago I posted this, and you called me crazy. Well, the MNAV went below 1.2. Then below 1. There's no more playtime. Now Saylor is preparing to dump billions on your head. You had your warning. Now you get the consequences. "Dear Bitcoiners, Hope you're enjoying the pump! Just remember - you would be at 35k without us. Did you read the latest Saylor tweet? "Buy more bitcoin than you sell..." That's right. If you allow our stock to dip below 1.2xMNAV, it now becomes accretive to shareholders to sell BTC to buy MSTR. That's right. Your precious coins will get a big, stinky dump. This is a threat. The MSTR army is kind. But we will not tolerate betrayal. You scratch our back, we scratch yours. You support our chart... we support yours. But if you lets us fall, we're taking you with us. We stink on you and all MSTR holders get bitcoin gain from the sale. That's right. We gain bitcoin, you get agony. Your final warning, from the MSTRer army. So let's keep this pump going... it would be a shame if the music suddenly... *stopped*"

OkRip7540

The real test is if BTC can uphold it's value after Saylor stops buying BTC and instead sells 20,000-40,000 BTC. If the price can hold up relatively well, then yes, it will tell banks that BTC is liquid and has value

Rickard403

In what ways would BTC be more accessible? It's not like exchanges are simply out of BTC.

baIIern

Remember when BTC never fell below the old ATH?

OkRip7540

The buy back is for 1 billion in common and another 1 billion in preferred. Strategy will need to sell alot more than 1.25 billion in BTC to cover those two actions. Not to mention they owe another billion in corporate debt next year. What remains to be seen is whether Strategy stops buying BTC altogether. I think that will have a bigger impact on the broader BTC market.

rockhoundlounge

It's not even really about BTC noobs vs. veterans. It's about good investors investing what they can afford to lose and holding till profit vs. people trying to get rich quick and trading on emotions because they're way over leveraged.

OkRip7540

>one of the criticisms from the rating agency S&P was that they were committed not to sell any Not quite, the concern was "currency mismatch" - Strategy claimed BTC as a liquid currency reserve but S&P disagreed and gave them a "junk" rating. S&P couldn't care less about willingness to sell or buy BTC, they care about the end state of the balance sheet and Strategy has been carrying low cash reserves for a while and that presented as a risk. Bringing cash reserves up to $2.5 billion helps to bring their balance sheet in line with modern risk thresholds - how they fund that cash raising effort is entirely up to them. Strategy doesn't need to sell BTC to fund cash reserves, they can sell equity via MSTR or STRC to do so

OkRip7540

The real question is, will Strategy continue buying up BTC under this new plan? Strategy is currently a net buyer of BTC at an average of 16,500 per month. What will the new net activity look like? So long as it's still net buy, I don't think we have anything to worry about

Jake0024

I'm always curious what BTC enthusiasts think they mean when they make claims about being "decentralized" Why is that a good thing? To what extent is BTC actually decentralized? How do you measure that? What would it take to stop being decentralized?

_BreakingGood_

Yes, I really feel the reason BTC is stagnating is in big part because of Strategy. If they catastrophically exploded tomorrow, BTC would be more more accessible to normal people.

thinkingperson

Based on the charts, most recent date for op to have bought MSTR and "lose" 76%+ is 6 Oct 2025. MSTR is doing what it does, multiplied BTC both ways. If op and wife bought bitcoin then, it would have been at 125k, at the market peak, they would be down 53k. They would be complaining that they lost 53%!! Boohoohoo

mallenby1

BTC isn’t dead, we are just very, very early. Even though the general public is dumb as rocks EVENTUALLY they will be forced to come to terms with the fact our government, like most others. Spends taxpayer money like a drunken sailor is a wh\*re house. There will be no choice if you want to not be a financial slave.

EdHarleyTheThird

I bought BTC in 2011. How you like them apples ward monkey?

JPM1216

So he is buying BTC high and now selling low. This regard belongs in WSB! Or at least the dense people who buy this do…

Glass_Culture_6209

BTC is useless? If so , what is USD or EUR? Colored paper and someone telling you its worth something🤣 Not to forget the inflation! I paid a lot of things with btc and for me its the best thing to store value!

devCheckingIn

Was that the shortest bear market in BTC history?