BTC

HurpDurpington84

Send me BTC and I'll give you some shit

solrac149

That's because the future of crypto success is trading hedged, and trading with massive leverage in perpetual futures markets. And the only way to win doing that long term is with a hedged strategy. Hedge funds are always the long term winner. Any market that rewards "HODLers" for holding for a few short years is temporary fluke. The only real winners are either hedge funds or extreme long term investors (decades). That being said, BTC isn't going anywhere. It's the future of humanity.

GranzJ473

this is why I keep a stablecoin float for actual spending and let the BTC sit long term. treating crypto as a spending account and as a savings account at the same time makes both jobs harder.

I_Love_Lava_Lamp

Tangem Pay works great. You would sell your BTC for USDC and spend the USDC with your Tangem Visa

dylan6091

True. And even then, "selling" would be using BTC to pay for life expenses, not cashing out. I just figured I'd start with conventional wisdom for the novice person's sake.

MathiasThomasII

No, it is not smart to out $15k on two assets. That being said do whatever you want, but don’t try to predict BTC.

Obvious-Ad-4560

The big players are trying their best to shake out retail to buy BTC at lower prices. It’ll go up eventually just keep holding bros.

spaceshiploser

Bitcoin is an interesting asset, I mostly monitor it to gauge the market’s sentiment on risk for a given time. I am here to see where Bitcoin investors think the price is going and hear reasonable arguments. But I also reserve the right to call bullshit out when i see it. If there was a liquidity crisis i imagine everyone would sell their BTC and buy real assets

TripTryad

The issue here is that this is a midterm election year and btc was always going to bleed this year and bottom and q4. People needed to sell Q4 of last year and come back next year. But I will be back to buy the bottom of BTC this Q4. Nobody is telling the newbies about the 4 year cycle. 2026 is going to be red, just like 2022, and 2018 and 2014. Those are always the bear market bottom years. (technically the 2014 bottom snuck barely into Q1 25 but the cycle is still the same each time)

ConsistentRub934

My rule is written before I buy: take out the initial on the first big move, trim more when everyone starts calling for insane targets, and never wait for the perfect top. Some goes back to BTC and ETH, some stays in stables. I use Nexo for part of that when I’m sitting out, but the main point is simple: don’t let a 5x turn into a round trip.

Tongue_Chow

BTC can save her

AndromedanPrince

BTC

Spiritual-Welder-630

BitcoinII ($BC2) and LitecoinII ($LC2) for me. They’re fair-launch, Layer 1 Proof of Work coins using the same code as BTC and LTC sitting at veeeery low market caps.

HydrogenSun

As opposed to? When BTC goes 60k to 120k to 60k what is changing about it's 'fundamental value'? They think it will go up they buy to make money.

mrpotatonutz

Large private equity like Blackrock JPM etc are quietly buying up BTC. It will be the little guys that panic sold who get reamed when it blasts off again. I personally feel like these corrections are good for the market. Just when everyone declares BTC dead for the thousandth time it will start pumping

Gsw-

True, but id argue the broader stock market averaged much higher than usual annual returns and that might not be the case the next 4 years. BTC could outperform in such an event.

Obvious-Shop-6260

You’re basing your assumption on an N of 4. This no different than saying “I know 4 people who all died in a car crash driving a Ford… so all Fords are death traps. I know a lot of very smart people who made money in stocks ….. I also know a lot of stupid people who made money in stocks. Do stocks attract smart or dumb people ? Have you tried reading (whitepage, credible sources that both support and reject BTC, etc ) yourself and coming to your own conclusions / opinions ? If you haven’t researched on your own - start with the Bitcoin Standard. Also, posting this in a “Bitcoin” forum will get you biased answers.

InvestmentSorry6393

I think that was one reason why the bullrun was subdued. I also think a lot of investors who would have otherwise been interested in Bitcoin and crypto went to ai. The 10x gains in companies with unclear valuations, and wild speculation is supposed to be our thing! As for the hopeful next bullrun a lot of people are predicting diminishing returns based on the power law model. I just wonder if it's possible that a lot of the capital that's been placed in AI companies that may or may not be profitable get re-distributed. Obviously it's not all going to come rushing into Bitcoin but I could see a lot of people who are looking to reallocate as the AI trade begins to look like a bubble seeing BTC 55-60% off it's ath being attractive. Then maybe we could get a more impressive bullrun

pragmacrat

It's because they introduced STRC. As long as BTC goes up, they could issue new shares of STRC to get cash to buy BTC. If BTC goes down, they will need to find cash to pay for STRC's 11.50% semi-monthly dividend. They've recently come out they have 10 months of cash reserves for dividends. If BTC keeps declining and their cash reserves shrinks, they will need to start selling their bitcoin to cover. The recent sale of 32 BTC triggered a mild panic. Imagine Saylor having to sell thousands of BTC to fund STRC. It would be a doom spiral for MSTR.

Reasonable_Band1536

I hate people, but when BTC behaves like this, it forces me to fill the void that is my life with the drivel of others as well as my own awful voice. Nice reply👍🏻

Prize-Bug-3213

Yeah, we should be looking at BTC earnings. Oh wait 🤣

Porcellanidae

U/true-lychee might be referring to block # 149,097 BTC was almost dead back then..the block took 141 minutes to be mined

jeremiahcp

Yes, I agree it's time to buy, but I'm not sure BTC is the big-ticket item this time around. It depends on how far this AI trend will go. If it keeps going through BTC's next cycle, you'll likely still make money on BTC, just not as much as you could have on AI.

KCConnor

I don't think measuring high to high is a valid predictor at all. I prefer measuring ratios of lows to highs. The first two cycles were ridiculously explosive in this regard. The third cycle was like a 20x. This most recent cycle was an 8x from low to high, about $15K to about $125K. I'm anticipating a 4x to 6x from whatever the low is established to be during this bear period. That's my worst case. I think Powell actively worked to defuse the BTC bull market during this cycle, and Walsh is likely to be more cooperative to the next cycle. We could see up to 10x from the lows of this cycle with appropriate federal money policies. Assuming a $45K low, I expect somewhere between a $225K to $275K high as a worst case. Best case with the right policies, I see up to $400K.

aahosb

Just what would happen when the last BTC is mine. Running the network doesn't cost much. But the idea is that BTC would cost so much that even the small amount means something. So if let's say energy is free. Then the previous BTCs were already mined at a price and theoretically as long as people still using it it should be more than that price so it could stop growing. Note that BTC have gone in price less than what it takes to mine it. But also that's relative because energy prices are not the same in all countries, and also it's a supply and demand like any other commodity or currency. If people decided they don't want it it doesn't matter that it took 60k to make you have to sell for a loss.

nemodigital

BTC failed to even keep up with the broader stock market over the last 2 to 3 years. It isn't looking very optimistic right now

Financial_Freak

looks like you have enough of BTC and don't want any more of it :)

Mix_Right

From the website “Monetize BTC. Live big. Tax-free Bitcoin loans against your policy. Take a Bitcoin loan against up to 90% of your policy's value, with no fixed repayment schedule. In many jurisdictions, borrowing isn't treated as a taxable event. Your Bitcoin works for you while you're alive, not just after. “

Jayar9000

Sold 32 BTC, price tanked, bought another 1000+ at discount...

ArchiMode25

The last part isn't true anymore. No one has lost money holding 4 years. In 2022/23 bear market BTC dropped to $15k-$17k which was below the 2017 high of $20k. Again, during this 2026/27 bear BTC hit a low so far of around $58k which is below the 2021 high of $67k.

FirstDavid

At this point what is the bull narrative anymore? It’s not retail since Trump convinced everyone that crypto is still a scam by making a new one. It’s not a US reserve BTC treasury since Trump lied about doing that. It’s not the ETFs because that already happened. I’m running out of narratives

Typical-Snow3034

Hey! Your concern is fair. A BTC-backed loan is always a tradeoff: you get liquidity without selling, but the collateral still needs to be controlled in a way that makes the loan enforceable. So I’d compare the parts that actually matter: collateral policy, LTV, liquidation level, alerts, repayment flexibility, and whether the collateral is reused. CoinRabbit gives you the borrow-without-selling route with fixed APR, visible LTV/liquidation levels, risk-zone alerts, and no rehypothecation. It’s not the same as untouched self-custody, but it can make sense when liquidity matters more than selling BTC outright.

Typical-Snow3034

Hey! This is exactly the situation where selling feels the worst: you don’t actually want to exit BTC, you just need cash because life picked a bad week. I’d still keep an emergency cash buffer first, but borrowing against crypto can be useful when the need is short-term liquidity. With CoinRabbit, you can borrow against BTC and other supported assets instead of selling outright, with fixed APR, visible LTV/liquidation levels, and risk-zone alerts. The key is keeping LTV conservative so the loan stays a liquidity tool, not extra stress.

DESIGNvsNONE

I hope some day they'll teach in schools why house prices inflate. It's not because the houses got better. MSTR may be ahead of a long curve if BTC gains broad acceptance as a universally attainable hard asset.

Hypnotic101

Might be time to recognize BTC has failed its thesis as a store of value.

Pristine_Cricket_633

Trigger a short squeeze and watch BTC shoot up like a firework along with MSTR.

HSuke

Its top line is predicting $600k. And BTC price just broke through the bottom line yesterday

Billkr

We as humans (I assume most of you are) look for patterns in things. And if you look at Bitcoin price history there seems to be a 4 year pattern. Is that pattern going to continue? Who knows. Is it a valid predictor? Nobody knows for sure. I am fairly certain we are close to the bottom, but I am just guessing (gut feeling). I do have waterfall purchases set up on an exchange to purchase set amounts at 59k, 58k, 57k, all the way to 50k. That way if it does fall rapidly, at least I will have purchased some more BTC on the way down as it gets cheaper. I don't expect them to activate anytime soon. And when the prices rises I will have to reset my waterfall prices.

Hypnotic101

BTC has effectively failed it's thesis as a store of value. It will be extremely difficult to break the ATH simply because there are so many people looking to get out or at least lighten their bags without taking a loss.

Rey_Mezcalero

I agree. Before there was new countries coming online and all the fantasy talk that all the countries of the world was going to use BTC, etc etc. That isn’t happening and people losing the fantasy world and accepting that this is just a speculative gamble. The highs are getting lower and rebounds not so volatile. This would be good for those daydreaming BTC being a currency as it would need to be “boring” without big price swings and trade sideways.

shaun3416

You do realize the price of BTC is down \~42% since the 1st day of Trump’s 2nd term, right?

Dealer_Vast

yeah don't calculate it from the BTC amount, calculate it from tx size. I usually just leave a little extra buffer because Electrum can show the actual fee before broadcast anyway, and at 2 sat/vbyte even a chunky normal tx is still way under right now

Internet_is_tough

Very easy to make those low effort posts at these times, I am wondering if you'll post anything when BTC is back at 100k+ , MSTR is back at 400 and STRC stays above 100 for the whole duration of the bull market

Due_Jellyfish5857

“It’s coming back. BTC is going to 1 million.” He says with a whimper.  Just remember that wisdom was banned one person at a time from these subs. It’s an echo chamber of financial ignorance.

_This_Is_Ridiculous

To be fair, the hype was dead in 2022 when BTC dropped to 16k. I am not saying anything is a given but we will see if the cycle breaks down this time around. So far it hasn't.

3pinripper

The end of 4 year cycle is Oct/Nov of this year. Don’t act like BTC is dead and MSTR won’t pump again during the next bull run. Let’s see what ages like milk.

Stress_Living

That’s a horrible way to think about it… BTC has no intrinsic value, just like fiat. It is entirely dependent on people’s desire and willingness to use it. You can measure its value in what someone is willing to trade you for it. People are using dollars because it’s a good substitute for that. How many tvs, cars, pizzas, etc you can buy with btc has absolutely gone down. It would be completely different if we were in a deflationary environment, but we are not.  The amount of goods and services you can consume with a single dollar has (and continues) to go down, and the amount of single dollars you can get for your bitcoin has (and continues) to go down as well.

ProfessionalHefty349

Then why do you get downvoted to hell in BTC subs for saying that it’s only utility is to facilitate illegal activities?

Middle-Wrangler2729

Why do we continue repeating these same conversations? Like for years I have heard the exact same conversations about BTC every time it moves up and down.

Working-Library-4974

The entry is the easy part 😂 I try and keep it simple, it’s boring but it’s worked for me. Don’t hang on to the losers plain and simple. When everything else is pumping and the one you’re holding is doing nothing, get rid of it because in no time at all they will all lose 70+ percent of their value. I pick 3-5 alts with conviction and hope 1 or 2 hit like crazy. My first buy was doge at 4 cents, sold it all at 42 cents. It rose to 70 cents or something like that…now I layer the sells. My target price sell 50%, and then 10-20% I’ll sell at different levels and some leftover in case it goes absolutely crazy. Most of it just goes into BTC to hold long term.

HSuke

That's basically Power Law chart's top line, and it's off by an order of magnitude predicting $600k BTC now. https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/ Don't do this.

Proton-user

BTC —-> bc1qv8zzh4jvl99gvnlh0mdepn5z3cpncx2khlngcd

Vast_University_7534

If he can't survive a normal bear market from BTC, then he was never gonna make it

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bdemon40

[This YT channel](https://www.youtube.com/@JoeNakamoto) has been documenting BTC use around the world. Small cases, but still legit. And still very early.

MrKillerKiller_

I manage a position based on chart probabilities and ignore alts completely unless BTC profits start flowing into the alt sector. Alts are simply used as a sweetener for BTC profits. If BTC surges and holds sideways for an extended period alts have more potential to have a moment. Otherwise they simply oscillate and sweep lows over and over on ultra low volume and liquidity as a whale occasionally swings through to pump and dump in the noobs butthole.

Porcellanidae

Nope, paper Bitcoin is just an IOU When s hits the fan all the customers get roasted, whilst they keep the actual BTC.  Not even mentioning that they might over promise and under deliver in terms of selling IOU and holding actual BTC

antaran

They have a cash reserve for 10 months of dividends. After that they have nothing. They can't raise anymore money through selling pref shares, because the interest would be at like 20%. They cant raise much more money through the issuence of common stock, because the stock already crashed lik 90% and selling more would just put into a death spiral. They cant sell any meaningful amount of BTC because it would crash the market. They sold just 32 BTC a few weeks ago and it sent shockwaves through the crypto world.

_Stylite

Here I will try again. Where does the **purple band** start **at the current price of BTC, 59,9K** on **the rainbow chart**. Please tell me

gkibbe

Ive paid 3.5 BTC for an ounce of weed before , its just another Friday for me buddy. Try not to panic sell over the weekend.

bananabastard

>What exit target are people looking at? There is no exit for me. Ever. There is exchanging BTC for things I need, as I need to. And always leaving everything in BTC. Through all the ups and downs forever.

_Stylite

Obviously I’m familiar with a log graph. Go tell me where the purple band starts at the current price on BTC, or any of the color bands. Go tell me where they were when BTC was $70K, from that graph. My point is that the log scale of the y axis is chosen to make the model appear to have cleaner fit, meanwhile it’s unreadable garbage for anything practical.

blaziken8x

Yep all of top crypto moves with BTC, but people argue because they want to buy the one that will go 3x or 4x when BTC goes 2x. If you look at something like dogecoin, that is right now at 7.5 cents, it's not that crazy to think it might easily go to 20-30 cents during next BTC ath.

blaziken8x

Is there a chart that puts a line through the ATH peaks? Because, it seems like if we were to do that, we'd get about 200-250k BTC in a few years.

Top-Care-8946

By my own viewpoint BTC biggest problem is that it's not widely applied as main payment method. So that will push bitcoiners to see it as investment for future. If majority of payments would done in BTC then the situation would drastically change. There is also one thing that gives a reason to have concerns: Worldwide usage could put BTC network under stress that it can't handle because every transaction must be confirmed and then blockchain info updated. Usually average confirmation takes about 10 minutes ore more. So I think that there must be some changes made to BTC in it's core system. It should be instantly sent from sender to recipient or at least recipient must get a valid confirmation that transaction is valid and will be executed accordingly. There is a workaround like bitcoin Cash but it does not replace BTC because has no the same value and uses it's own network too.

New-Sky-9867

If you could see this coming from a mile away and had any clue what BTC is going to do, you'd be a billionaire. You can't time the market.

blaziken8x

You'll be up 80-120% at the next BTC ATH, on all of them probably. I was in this position last cycle.

Whereismypost

I’m dollar cost averaging in every week until 2030. if BTC goes the way some of the biggest fund managers in the world say there’s a good chance I can free up my time, not slaving away at work everyday. If it flops and I lose well I still gotta work anyways… but here we all are reacting to you… who’s wife’s boyfriend makes sure you make a fresh batch of fries to put in the bag

moviemaker2

Remindme! 6 months "BTC 45k?"

devCheckingIn

Frustrated that all the FUD work has only got BTC down to $60k. They are trying to rush the bear market low and get their short positions to print big. Now they will have to go back to the drawing board and come up with better FUD since the Saylor story is losing steam.

devCheckingIn

Yeah, it's just the psychology of FUD that rules bear markets. Miners have to sell (a massive amount of) BTC all the time just to pay their bills to keep the lights on and run their companies. Nobody cares. Saylor has to sell a substantially less amount of BTC to pay some dividends? Panic sell! I mean I do get it, but I'm just saying... try to understand the psychological warfare TPTB are waging on traders. We have to discern between Saylor selling to pay some bills vs. selling because he doesn't believe in BTC anymore and is getting out of the treasury company business altogether.

poundsdpound

100,000 to the order of a 1 mil. That is a different kind of scale from the jump between $10 to $100. Just saying. Yes, arguably there are a lot more people interested in participating in BTC now that it has gone over the 110,000 barrier. However, think of all your friends who have got $10 to spare over something they view as a 'silly' side quest vs how many people you can actually name who have got ten thousand times that amount. To spare. Imagine lots of jars, 10,000 of them, all containing $10 each. And they have this to spare

Ok_Voice_659

I will sell when the penultimate BTC gets mined in the year 2140

devCheckingIn

He has $50 billion in BTC on the balance sheet and $6.5 billion in debt. What bank wouldn't be willing to refinance? Unless BTC goes to 0...

Remarkable_Sleep_944

Because Reddit is compromised. They have 1000s of Ai FUD bots telling people to buy stocks instead of BTC, and useless posts mocking people who have faith in BTC in th long run. It all started after Reddit sold it's soul for the IPO, and became slaves to the big banks.

devCheckingIn

It's just a vehicle for increasing BTC exposure. That means MSTR goes up more than BTC in bull markets and down more in bear markets. An ETF will only give you 1-to-1 exposure to BTC whereas MSTR is accretive, increasing BTC per share by purchasing BTC with stock issuance.

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swissfamrob

I’m literally the person you were responding to lol I understand the context well. As far as the unproven 4 year cycle narrative you keep parroting, I don’t see that logic holding true for anything other than (maybe?) bitcoin. Not stocks. Not bonds. Not real estate. So to rely on it to guide your BTC decision making as some sort of proven rule is foolish given how new BTC is.

richardto4321

Yeah I'd argue that most people who own BTC nowadays are way outside of this venn diagram.

devCheckingIn

ETFs sold 21,000 BTC this week alone (so far). And true to form, BTC did go down. Not sure it's really that big of a deal though in the grand scheme of things.

coffeebadger21

> The wealthy holders NEED to start looking into marketing budget. Why do you think the price is down? Work is being done. You can't just advertise a new economic and cultural paradigm on TV. We need to neutralize the threat of anti-capitalist regimes internationally before they realize what's happening. It's best that BTC remains underestimated so that our enemies end up with less of it before it's officially recognized as world reserve currency.

BANKSLAVE01

BTC of a STRC, even!

swissfamrob

4 year and 16 cycles have been around for a century? That statement has zero meaning esp as it relates to BTC.

CeltsFan420

I'm about 60-65 BTC and rest stocks and very small percent in real estate investment app

devCheckingIn

Yes, they're tied to algo trading bots related to BTC, which itself is also tied to other things. Alts are just leveraged plays on BTC. Problem is, over time, the downside moves tend to outpace the upside moves with each cycle.

devCheckingIn

The whole point of "diluting the shares" is to get more Bitcoin per share. They call this "BTC Yield". That's the whole strategy and that's why people buy MSTR because it gets holders more exposure than buying BTC alone. Diluting the common stock is not a downside but rather the method they use to get BTC yield.

CommonBoot1305

Really uneducated take.  Just because you dont understand STRC or MSTR, or heck even BTC doesn't mean they will crash.  I just means you're r3tarded and shouldn't talk about things you are uneducated on.  Shoot I bet by the end of this year alone, MSTR is worth at least 30% higher than it is today.  

Turbulent-Land-5664

HOw does it work? I really wish I could do something like staking to earn some interest. I know theres a wrapped BTC but dont know if I can do that inside an exchange or how to get there from straight up BTC. Also dont know how that can be done with self custody.

Ok_Chemistry6851

Solana is seeing a lot of tokenized stocks action, but with the way BTC is going there is no chance of any of that to show up as price action.

Turbulent-Land-5664

I am sorry I mean 4% or .04 of 1 BTC. And yeah Ive used Binance P2P works pretty well.

Rickard403

If it was you would you watch BTC just ride up to ATH again without buying back in? How is this even a serious take for anyone interested in buying BTC? I thought BTC was going to $12k last cycle and i could've bought sub $16k. I was wrong, so i bought in at $19k. Problem solved.

titsngiggles69

Do y'all read? The article is bullish on BTC, but says the rainbow chart isn't as relevant as it once was.

Available-Distance81

1 BTC is still worth 1 BTC

CuriousDebauchery

Eh I never saw what's wrong with selling at some point when you're already in profit, and the market seems to be on a down turn, and then buying back in when the new price is suitable. Over the last 2 cycles I did that with whatever BTC I had accumulated and it accelerated my gains by quite a lot. I dont pay capital taxes on profits, which works well for me, but even if I did, I had 5x profit this cycle when it hit 124k and there's no amount of tax that I'd pay that would make me not want to see above 100k and buy back in as DCA on the way down, and lump sums at apparent support levels.

Independent-Base4040

Spend it in countries , places that accept BTC. From ur cold storage to a lightning spending wallet

JeremyLinForever

I’m sorry you feel that way. I’ll buy your BTC from you if it makes you sleep better at night? Edit: I’ll even reluctantly take it from you at a discount of $20,000 per BTC price :)

Strom22222

By making that statement, you have no idea what the play or position is. Your first sentence is correct. But to say there is zero reason for him to have a business is ignorance. Much like many or the comments in here. His goal is not to be the market maker for the price. The goal to to accumulate, regardless of price. The long term play is to be able to establish the first BTC bank and be able to use the BTC as leverage. STRC is the first iteration of this, although it's design is used for more accumulation. Do your research.

pommesUNDwurst

I am somewhat with you on this. I sold my whole stack in 2021 and 2025. And I don't believe we will see 1 Million $ or even 200k BTC anytime soon. But I feel like this cycle feels exactly like the last. The hate BTC gets. The BTC sekt that always screems to DCA no matter the price. The FUD... It's the same it has ever been. I diversivied. I cannot loose. BTC has treated me well so far. No reason to doubt it as long as the 4 year cycle is intact.

ColegDropOut

Yea I think we’ll just use it to buy more BTC.

Strom22222

I'm not saying you are right or wrong. Like with anything and especially investments, time will tell. The only question I have is: Given you are "petty", if BTC goes on a bull run now or a year from now and MSTR/STRC goes back to $400 and increases it's yield respectively, will you also concede Saylor was right? Or will this thread be deleted? Or will he just be called "lucky"?