BTC

spb1

Serious question - why do people think that when BTC goes up it just cant go back down? Is it not as likely to go back down to 60k this year as it is rally to 100k?

poughkeepsee

It could never be trusted in the past, it was often corrected to make it fit whatever BTC was doing. Like another user said, astrology for men.

Ok_Promotion_5940

Years ago bought at 16k and sold for 32k still haunts me to this day and it was a total of 9:( But this cycle bought three at $68k taken me a Long time to buy back in because of BTC PTSD

Big_Perspective_209

We spend a lot of time being told BTC is worthless and going to $0 so when it pumps there’s nothing to do except gloat and dream of the next pump lol

Sea-Development-8046

Because with actual $BTC we could ask for proof, which he could easily provide. With an ETF, it's easy to fake. Dude is full of shit.

Sea-Development-8046

You have a 100k to invest in BTC, but then run to Reddit for validation. Nah. You're full of shit. 100%.

RetiredAvocado

Maybe it all \*seems\* obnoxious because you missed the boat. Don't let random accounts online cheering bother you so much. The problem is not them, it's you, and your conscious or subconscious regrets. I'm a big fan of bitcoin. Can't imagine if bears and trolls and detractors trashing BTC upset me every day. They can be pretty vocal, but in one ear and out the other. No effect on my cortisol, dopamine, serotonin. What you focus on gets noticed. Look for, and count, all the red cars you see today. Or whatever specific detail you usually don't pay attention to. And no, I don't get all giddy when bears get rekd. It's someone losing money. Again, your whole issue is within. It's not what happens but how you react to it.

Aerocryptic

Really depends what time frame you look at. The XMR/BTC all time chart is not really bullish

Peturio

ZEC is the whole story here. It runs at about 150% annual volatility, more than twice SOL, so with 48% of the money it carries 72% of the risk and the four coins behave like 1.8 independent bets rather than four. The upside of that is real. In a one year simulation from current volatility and correlations with no trend assumed, 30% of paths double and the top 5% end above 7x. The other side is that the worst 5% lose 71% or more (BTC alone, 51%), five paths in six go through a 50% drawdown at some point, and one in three goes through 70%. This mix does not do moderate. Two things about ZEC the weights don't show. Over the last twelve months its correlation to SOL, NEAR and HYPE was 0.35 to 0.45, low for crypto, which is why the diversification ratio is a decent 1.19. Over the last 90 days that has flipped. ZEC's beta to BTC is now about 1.9, the highest in the book, so a 30% BTC drop today maps to ZEC −56%, NEAR −40%, HYPE −38%, SOL −35%, and the book −46%. The coin that diversified you last year is the one most sensitive to BTC right now. Replays on today's weights. The October 2025 to July 2026 bear, which cost BTC 51%, would have made this mix +47%, entirely because ZEC rose 152% inside that window while SOL fell 66% and NEAR 39%. The path still went to −22% first, in March. The June 2026 liquidation cascade cost 29% in five days and ZEC fell 33% in it, so in a fast deleveraging it does not hedge anything. The FTX window costs 41%, mostly SOL at −63% (HYPE did not exist yet and is filled in by beta). One number to distrust. Resample the last twelve months of actual daily moves and the median outcome is 14x. That is not a forecast, it is the 2025-26 ZEC rally dominating the sample, and what it tells you is that this book's entire track record is one event. Liquidity at retail size is a non-issue for all four, and a stock market shock on its own barely registers. As usual, there are model estimates under those assumptions, not advice.

Schuano

I am begging people to denote the BTC value in other currencies IN ADDITION to USD. Back in 2024 2025, people were talking about BTC going 120k USD etc. without pointing out that the value of the USD had dropped a ton. If you had 92 Swiss Francs in the beginning of 2023, that was worth 100 USD, those same 92 Swiss Francs now are worth 112 USD. One of the main theses of the sub is that the US is devaluing the dollar. Cool. But if you actually believed that, you wouldn't be using the USD conversion as evidence of BTC's real value.

Peturio

Ran the five coins in your screenshot (if there are more below ROSE, post them and I'll add them). At current prices that's about $1,020, LTC 70%, DOGE 10%, VET 9%, ADA 8%, ROSE 3%, and you need roughly +80% to get back to what you paid. Bad year first. Simulated one year forward from current volatility and correlations with no trend assumed, the worst 5% of outcomes lose 64% or more. The same dollars in BTC alone lose 51% or more. The median path goes through a 49% drop at some point during the year, so the odds of sitting through a 50% drop in the next twelve months are about one in two. For BTC alone it is one in five. One path in ten goes through a 70% drop. The recovery question, since that is really what you asked. In the same simulation, 18% of paths end the year at or above what you paid in May 2025. Put the same dollars into BTC and that number is 8%. The reason is the same one that makes the 50% drop likely. These five coins run at about 65% annual volatility against 44% for BTC, and volatility cuts both ways. It is what gives you a real shot at +80%, and it is what puts 13% of paths below half of today's value. If the next twelve months look like the last twelve (a resample of the real daily moves since September 2025), the picture is much worse, under 1% of paths reach breakeven and the median path loses another 54%. That is a statement about how bad the last year was for these five, not a forecast. Which coin does the damage. LTC is 70% of the money and 69% of the risk, so there is no hidden concentration beyond the obvious one. The five move together at 0.8 to 0.9 with each other (ROSE at 0.6), and the mix has a diversification ratio of 1.08, meaning five coins take about 7% of the volatility off compared with holding one of them. If BTC drops 30% tomorrow, the last 90 days of betas say LTC drops 26%, DOGE 35%, VET 31%, ADA 44%, ROSE 29%, and the book 29%. The coins you are down most on (ADA, ROSE) are also the ones that fall hardest when BTC does. Replays of actual crashes on today's mix. October 2025 to July 2026 costs 68%, BTC alone 51%. The 10 October 2025 flash crash costs 23% in a day, BTC 7% (the mix falls three times as far as BTC on a fast liquidation day). The June 2026 cascade costs 20%, BTC 15%. The FTX week costs only 1.6%, but that is because LTC happened to rise 11% in November 2022 while DOGE fell 47%, so treat it as luck rather than protection. The August 2024 yen unwind costs 20%, the December 2024 Fed selloff 17%. Days to get out. At this size every one of the five sells in minutes, total slippage about $4 even at 5% of a stressed day's volume. Liquidity is not a risk you have. What the numbers above do not include is that all of it sits on one exchange, which is a separate risk from price. One more thing the models say. A stock market selloff on its own (S&P −15%, dollar +8%, credit down) moves this book by under 1%. It only reacts to what BTC and ETH do, which matches the 0.8 to 0.9 correlations above. And the necessary disclaimer at the end: none of this is a prediction or advice.

MM0627

When everyone started talking about BTC i prefer short again...

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wahhabmirza

DCA BTC 1000/12=83USD/month

Illustrious-Award747

Zero BTC = zero stress for them, infinite peace for us😴

Intelligent_Cup_5529

Man i sold 1k USD for a small emergency at 70k BTC. It's always the same, never fucking sell

Peturio

Ran your allocation through our portfolio risk analysis at [Sentralis.io](http://Sentralis.io), with the gold line modelled as PAXG and the two 5% groups split equally. The eleven lines behave like one asset. Simulated a year forward from current volatility and correlations with no trend assumed, the worst 5% of outcomes lose 50% or more, the median path passes through a 39% drawdown, and one in five paths passes through a 50% drawdown. Holding BTC alone gives 51%, 38% and one in five. The mix removes about 12% of the volatility you would carry in a single coin, and shifting correlations to a crisis regime adds only 0.3% to the risk, because the large coins already sit at 0.8 to 0.9 with each other in normal times. Where the risk sits is different from where the money sits. BTC is 40% of the money and 36% of the risk, ETH is 20% and 25%, SOL is 15% and 20%. Those three carry 80% of the risk in the portfolio. The 10% in gold carries 2% of it, and swapping that gold for cash moves the one year loss figures by about one point, so at that size gold is doing what a cash position would do. The six coins in the two 5% groups carry 11% of the risk between them, about their weight, and at 1.7% each no single one of them can move the whole portfolio by more than two points even if it goes to zero or doubles. As a check, a repeat of the October 2025 to July 2026 bear on this mix costs 52%, against 51% for BTC alone. Gold ended that window up 3%, and the lines that fell hardest were ADA, SUI, HBAR, SOL and UNI at 65% or more. All of this is a model estimate under the stated assumptions, not a prediction.

Bilatsibagya

Because i sell BTC pump again

tenor_tymir

I buy BTC, that’s what my intuition is telling me.

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1wn1nbz/btc_tapped_84k_but_the_coinbase_premium_just_went/ BTC broke $84,000 and cleared $260 million in shorts doing it. The number underneath the rally matters more than the price: CryptoQuant's Coinbase Premium Index just slid below zero. [The Coinbase Premium measures the price gap between Coinbase (US institutional and spot demand) and Binance (global, leverage-heavy)](https://news.bitcoin.com/market-updates/bitcoin-price-84k-coinbase-premium-negative/). Positive means US buyers are paying up, real spot demand leading. Negative means Coinbase is trading at a discount to offshore venues, so the buying pressure is coming from derivatives and non-US flow, not American spot allocation. BTC ripping to $84K while that index goes negative means this leg was driven by leverage and a short squeeze, not by US spot buyers stepping in to confirm it. The move is real on the tape but thin underneath. Resistance overhead at $84,000-$85,000, the zone that just got tagged and where the squeeze ran out of immediate fuel. Above that there's air toward the prior high near $82,833 on higher timeframes, already reclaimed, so the next real test is holding above $82K on a daily close rather than wicking it. Support sits at $80,000 (round number and prior battleground), then $77,000-$78,000, the band that absorbed selling repeatedly this month and flagged as the level to defend since early September. The negative Coinbase Premium says that handoff hasn't happened yet. If the premium flips positive in the next day or two, US spot is confirming the move and $84K holds as a base. If it stays negative and funding runs hot, this is a leverage-driven spike that mean-reverts toward $80K once longs get overextended and the liquidation cascade runs the other way. Watch the Coinbase Premium more than the price this week. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1wn1lgy/the_fed_hiked_rates_and_bitcoin_ran_from_75k_to/ The Fed raised rates. Not held, not cut. Raised, for the first time in years, into a slowing economy. Textbook says risk assets bleed when that happens because safe Treasury yields get more attractive and money leaves anything volatile that pays nothing. [Bitcoin went from the mid-$75,000s to over $84,000. $260 million in shorts got liquidated. Analysts are now calling the bear market over](https://news.bitcoin.com/market-updates/bitcoin-price-crosses-84000-as-analysts-declare-bear-market-over/). The single most-repeated bearish setup of the year fired, and the market did the opposite of what the textbook promised. The hike was fully priced before it happened. CME had a 90% chance of higher rates baked in for weeks. By the time the Fed actually moved, every seller who was going to sell the hike had already sold. The event arrived and there was nothing left to unwind, so the shorts stacked on top of the "obvious" bearish trade became fuel instead. That's the $260M liquidation. ETF inflows ran strong through the entire rate scare, IBIT alone pulling billions while everyone argued about basis points. Raoul Pal's framing is the one that fits the tape: rates breaking higher signals fiscal dominance, governments so deep in debt they can't control long-term yields, and that environment is the whole reason a fixed-supply asset exists. The other read is simpler and worth respecting: this is a leveraged short squeeze on thin conviction, not real spot demand, and it fades the moment the liquidation fuel runs out. The Coinbase Premium going negative even as BTC tapped $84K says US spot buyers aren't the ones driving this, which is exactly what you'd expect from a squeeze rather than a durable bid. Both can't hold for long. Either the hike proved crypto has decoupled from Fed policy and $84K is the start of the next leg, or it's a squeeze that unwinds and drags back toward $80K once the shorts are cleared. The negative Coinbase Premium is the tell I'd watch. If US spot demand doesn't show up to confirm this move, the squeeze crowd is right. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

PJacouF

You are stupid. Not because you bought BTC at these levels but because you didn't have any DCA plan. Nonetheless, I think you're gonna be fine in the long run, but DCA always makes sense.

Opposite_Ad_4431

Isn’t there a limit on BTC withdrawals with cashapp? Last I used, it was $1k a day I believe

derbyfan1

No, its for LG-BTC.

Patrick_Atsushi

Bought at $95, he has already unloaded my BTC bag and generated some profit.

Shang_Ally_Mal

>BTC is, if anything, reliably consistent and predictable. That it goes up long term. That's about it.

Bilatsibagya

What if BTC goes round trip 3 years from now

Timely_Food_7352

82K aged fast lol. BTC is already pushing 86K+.

k_brn

My theory is that it's the combination of Bitcoin ETFs and the US cracking down on Iran money laundering through shady/non-KYC exchanges. US big banks now have good control over the BTC supply and are probably ready to pump, and they don't want outsiders to profit.

GigglesGirth

Hard to argue that point while in a bitcoin page and yes you are right there is a large separation between BTC and the others but that doesn't stop BTC from being a crypto currency. By definition that is what BTC is.

onlinemaxi

One more god candle on the BTC chart and 40k bears will literally cry 😆

Onebigsausage

Hold approx US$18k in CashApp. Trust them to still have your BTC when you want it. Collect $0.79 per week

Brief_Daikon_D093

BTC is becoming like a woman, the moment you think you understand, it gives you the finger and changes complete behaviour.

UC_DiscExchange

They've literally been more profitable than BTC

Brief_Daikon_D093

BTC is becoming like a woman, the moment you think you understand, it gives you the finger and changes complete behaviour.

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Unfair_Explanation53

Not in the slightest. BTC is so much more volatile then investing in SP500

Remarkable_Ad5011

I just need it to hit 1.8M… then I’m selling out! 😂 (I’ve always said when my BTC value and Mortgage balance are equal, I’m selling to pay it off… hopefully that further, rather than closer to zero).

Jellydude25

Bro HODL and borrow against it. Don’t cut your winners early. “Money loves speed, Wealth loves time”. Bitcoin just had its first weekly close about the 50 Week SMA since November 2025. Big. Last time BTC had a weekly close above the 50W SMA in a bear market, that signaled the start of a new bull trend (for the most part) and then rallied 350%.

johndo3000

A thought for the person who bought BTC at $5 and sold it at $10. They secured their gains. 😅

heltonbomfim

BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, compre , em 2029 você me diz

NiagaraBTC

BTC Sessions just did a whole video on all possible scenarios with BitKey

twitch-switch

Oh wow, I feel like a noob This whole time I thought a bear hibernated for the winter. This whole time I was confused with a BTC Squirrel

bananabastard

Don't ask me, I don't intend to sell ever. I will withdraw and use as I need to. But for me, BTC is the best form of money and the best asset, it's the only asset I hold that is truly mine. I will not be mass dumping it for an inferior asset.

Snowman33001

They sold 6916 BTC recently and currently hold 846,000 BTC. That was a sale of 0.8% of their holdings. The reason was to inoculate the market against BTC sales and raise dollars to buy back STRC/neutralize their debt. STRC is about $9.3B right now borrowed at 12% - but this is the key -the principal never has to be paid back. They think it has the potential to grow and their shareholders agree. Also mNAV has gone below one before. It then got up to 3/4. Now it’s at about 1.2. Nobody knows what the mNAV is going to do. It is purely a reflection of sentiment, and sentiment is fickle. What is clear is that MSTR has outperformed BTC since 8/10/20, and MSTR has paid all its obligations up to this date. So far, the business model is working and profitable.

AriesThef0x

Assuming your bought at today’s prices you’d have about 1.18 BTC. Just for perspective I sold 1.2 BTC damn near the peak of last year and bought my first home with 30% down and a decent savings cushion. 1.18 on a sufficient time horizon should absolutely be a decent amount.

No-Masterpiece2246

Even more fundamentally, they need to book a profit from buying/selling BTC, therefore they'll always be less profitable for a shareholder than somebody who just bought BTC.

No-Masterpiece2246

We're long past that phase. This shite is a pure stock pump-n-dump play built off a number-go-up retard Maxi meme. The BTC chain doesn't adhere to Satoshi's concepts. It will never scale thus it can't be a peer to peer payment system. Unless you like high fees and deliberately limited capacity. Imagine if you could only send 10 emails per day!

Greedy-Helicopter-99

BTC is a 4 year hold...no guarantees in 2 yeara.

Business_Cold4393

Recordatorio que estamos ante una posible ww3, en puertas de una crisis energetica total, japon necesita ser rescatada y adicionalmente EEUU y muchos paises de la Eurozona estan con bonos en maximos. Si alguien te dice que BTC puede llegar a 130k USD, ten en cuenta que "puede" significa que puede como tambien que no puede. Ten mente fria, la post pandemia atrajo mucha gente influensiable y que sus transacciones hacen mucho ruido en el mercado, lastimosamente el acceso a internet y el surgimiento de plataformas exchange solo trajo aun mas incertidumbre a un mercado ya dominado por la incertidumbre como el mundo de las criptos.

colemusic1

Risky? To put $100k into S&P 500 or BTC, you’re going my to say is riskier than BTC? Sorry dude but are you new to the stock market, or crypto market for that matter?

Betuko_

No te vuelvas loco , el precio del BTC es algo que tú no controlas y no puedes poner tu vida entera en algo que no controlas , ve tranquilo.

T_sauce9112

I use my job as my main retail sentiment gauge, and ABSOLUTELY no one wants anything to do with BTC. I wouldn't gauge what's going on as euphoria, but its still early, hasn't even been 24hrs. 2022 bear market rally hit 25.2k after crashing down to 17k, about 42% up After it hit 25.k, it earased all of it and went on to make the final low of 15.5k. This time could be different, but its always smart to be defensive.

Mwilley23

Time after time. It just amazes me that people jump into self custody and don't take the time to freaking understand what that entails. Sometimes with TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars worth of BTC. Insanity.

WeGottaTalkAboutYT

It’s just nice to have a positive rip again, it’s been a genuinely long time in terms of BTC standards

omg_its_dan

1 BTC+ is the top few percent of holders

NeedleworkerDue9121

Why said war? Every government will protect their currencies but all politicians love BTC, it is not for civilians…

T_sauce9112

Most retail participants don't want to touch it, everyone is still chasing the AI narrative. With this move I'm curious if the main stream media outlets will start shilling it. Regardless too many people are bullish now, that's a recipe for disaster. If BTC broke 83k and it was quiet, and no one was sure of it, everyone was skeptical, fear and greed was still sub 40, I'd say this is for real. We are at fear and greed 78, right after breaking 83k, before a pull back retest and go, when we still have 93k above, and 100k. Fear and greed 78?! This early?! That's fucking wild!!!! Either this time is different, or we have a correction coming...

BastianHS

As someone that's been in BTC for a while now, never say never! 😂😭

game_changer_world

Thanks for the info, I know its not much BTC, but its better than nothing to be honest.

Blade_Runner_69

Every BTC the UK government holds is theft or seizures. All governments do it tbh

pomplemice

from the dump. somebody told me to dive into a landfill and find some hard drives. I fished out an HDD with a bunch of BTC and don't know what to do

zerg_001

This. 6%.. hell 20% swings for BTC is nothing

ZucchiniIntrepid719

Unless you're friends with the top 8 BTC account holders, you have no business making any predictions.

Pretend_Key_3980

That's a tough spot to be in! Hopefully, BTC makes a comeback before you make any big decisions.

OoFrosty88

Fiat is a monopoly cartoon. BTC to the moon

Random_Person_246810

Why don’t you like Jack? All he does is educate people on BTC.

HueJaPenus

Im still up 97% in BTC with buys in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026.... Always be buying

JimmySki6166

I’ve been purchasing BTC weekly since 2019, regardless of the price!

Snowman33001

Is that why MSTR is outperforming BTC since the company started acquiring it? Looks like the business model is working. At least for now.

Ucscprickler

These are the people that buy .01 BTC at 65k and then sell it at 68k, making a sweet $24 profit after short term capital gains taxes and then feel like geniuses.

weouthere96

I bought STRC and cucked myself. Depeg near the BTC bottom had me down 20k I couldn't bring myself to risk anymore capital. Congrats regards!

fittes7

Yeah, its you with your 0.465291 BTC

FrontProfessional651

Keep running BTC 🏃‍♀️ 💪 ✨️ we need 100k ...

KidAmulet

Don't let unit price bias make you pick subpar digital assets. You can buy 0.1 of a SOL or 0.001 of a BTC. 10,000 HBAR is currently around the same dollar value as 7.5 SOL. You don't get extra points for having 10,000 of something.

KidAmulet

BTC has had its day and needs to be laid to rest. Put in a mix of ETH, SOL, and ZEC.

Cedarapids

Now do BTC against an inflating away USD the last two years. BTC holders lost their ass.

No_Cat_8269

What you're seeing is a screenshot with multiple red flags that strongly point to an investment scam. The image shows a purported trade details section posted by a user on the Reddit forum [r/Bitcoin](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/), where an account is simulated with completely unrealistic and contradictory numbers. ------------------------------ ## 🔎 Breakdown of Inconsistencies (Red Flags) * Colossal fictitious balance: Shows a "Qualifying balance" of 441 BTC. At the exchange rate indicated on the screen ($86,803.18), that amount would be worth more than $38 million. No legitimate platform gives away or assigns million-dollar balances out of thin air to ordinary users. * Outdated or manipulated exchange rate: Shows the price of Bitcoin at $86,803.18. Although the crypto market is highly volatile, fraudulent platforms often manipulate internal prices or freeze past quotes to make users believe they are operating in a legitimate environment. * Zero-cost transaction and zero totals: It says "Total $0.00" and "Fees $0.00," but above it displays an amount of "Bitcoin amount: 1 BTC." It is mathematically impossible to acquire or transfer 1 real BTC at a total cost of zero. * Promise of fixed return ("Bonus rate"): It details an annualized interest rate of 2%. In the real Bitcoin ecosystem, the currency does not generate interest on its own simply by being held. Platforms that promise "fixed returns" or "bonuses" for holding balances are usually Ponzi schemes where real money never enters the market. ------------------------------ ## ⚠️ How the Scam Works: How does this scam operate? These types of interfaces are part of a scam known as the fake trading platform scam: 1. The bait: They show you a website or app (with attractive charts and inflated balances) where it appears you've earned or received a large amount of Bitcoin. 2. The trap: When you try to withdraw this supposed money ("qualifying balance"), the platform blocks the withdrawal. 3. The extortion: They'll ask you to deposit your real money (fiat or crypto) under the pretext of paying "withdrawal taxes," "network fees," "verification costs," or "account upgrades." 4. The outcome: Once you make this deposit to "release" your supposed earnings, the scammers disappear with your real money, and the balances on the screen remain frozen or are erased. ------------------------------ ## 💡 Recommendations for Your Financial Security Since you mentioned being new to this ecosystem, the golden rule in the crypto world is: If it seems too good to be true, it's a scam. * Don't deposit money: Under no circumstances should you send funds to "release," "unlock," or "pay fees" for balances that appear suspicious in these types of applications. * Use regulated intermediaries: If you want to acquire Bitcoin safely, do so only through recognized international exchanges or local platforms supervised by your country's financial authorities. * Learn about custody: In legitimate cryptocurrencies, you control your funds through private keys (seed phrases) using non-custodial wallets. Any balance that depends on the whims of an unknown website is likely to disappear. To help you navigate safely, could you tell me where you obtained this application or if someone contacted you to offer this investment? This will allow me to give you specific steps to protect your accounts or report the site.

Any-Pipe-3196

He really wasn't that wrong tbh. I mean he missed it by a month. I think he overstepped on being too bearish by thinking this would be a normal BTC bear market after a relatively muted bull market

Traditional_Most105

Just set a range of profits you're comfortable selling and feeling good about it... You can't predict the market. When BTC was at 75000 - 78000 i saw people saying it will go back to 60000 and 50000 and that the bottom will still come. Now that it's at 85000 people are more bullish. If it goes back to 78000 people will start predicting bearish outcomes.... So no one can predict anything... They only confirm their predictions after the outcome is already obvious. If you put money you can afford to lose and accept any consequences, if you do your research on the coins you have and you believe they have potential of reaching higher prices in the long term and if you aren't comfortable taking the current profits you already have then why sell? Just to position yourself better? And if that never happens? I prefer to hodl and put money gradually thinking of them as money i could waste in other useless stuff. I also believe some of my coins will rise more than they are today so i am holding, buying at different prices and hoping for the best... If the profits go to the desired range i might sell some and leave some for a potential higher price... If not i either lose money or wait for the next increase in prices which it might or might not come... In the end it depends on what your end goals are.... If you want to take profits gradually then you have to accept the possibility of prices rising more than you thought. If you hold long term hoping for higher prices you have to accept that prices might start dropping. So just set your own rules when to sell and when to buy and accept the consequences...

No-Masterpiece2246

Strategy is not out of the woods yet. STRC is a shitcoupon and the market knows it. It'll take a BTC pump past $100k to fix their books.

GGudMarty

Gonna go ofer 100k again soon and listen to mutual fund purists tell us about how dumb we are about BTC lol

Backrus

Yeah, calling for blue skies ahead at pico top of 2021, so good. Not to mention having close to 0 alts that cycle. His only good call was being BTC heavy into ETF era and that's about it (and even that was quite a lucky call because nobody could predict that IBIT options would kill vol to the point that GVZ flipped BVIV early this year, and BTC would have vol like Google while offering no additional upside and much more downside). Keep in mind that he doesn't trade but has been living off subscriptions since he wasn't balding that much lol So him being right or wrong is a blow to his ego, not to his net worth.

TheBestintheWest11

funny things is China confiscated those BTC lol

Temporary-Cause730

This same post was made when BTC went from 63k to 80k, lol

Temporary-Cause730

Well, it could happen, sure. But if the bull market is confirmed, I doubt it. The fact that it's making an ATH at this stage tells me it has a lot of to grow, just like HYPE and LIT. Besides those, I have my main bag of BTC and a little bit of ETH/SOL/PUMP Btw, what are your bags right now, and what are you looking to buy soon? 

i_marketing

In hindsight, there was so much resistance in the 60K range. I bought a little in the low 60K range, but of course there was the possibility that BTC would drop to the 50K range, 40K range, or lower, etc, when we were in the 60K range. But yeah, now that we can look at the past, 60K was where the resistance was, and it was difficult for BTC to go lower than it. Oh well, hindsight is hindsight, nobody knows the future.

faisal_yk26

Ha, fair. Yours was on the timeline though, mine was on the wording. And the last comment in your thread says "BTC hash encryption safe for long time", which is pretty much the mix-up I meant. Good video though.

i_marketing

In hindsight, there was so much resistance in the 60K range. I bought a little in the low 60K range, but of course there was the possibility that BTC would drop to the 50K range, 40K range, or lower, etc, when we were in the 60K range. But yeah, now that we can look at the past, 60K was where the resistance was, and it was difficult for BTC to go lower than it. Oh well, hindsight is hindsight, nobody knows the future.

Steel-Tempered

198,109 BTC = $17,152,877,490.27 US National Debt = $40,125,046,192,853.00 (and rising every second) = US still $40 Trillion in debt after BTC. China, only has $18.7 USD trillion in debt, so China is the net winner.

GigglesGirth

Ehhh, I'm saying no one knows, the fortune tellers think the bottom will be in Q4 but we have just put in a new high so it's looking bullish. It's just normally better to average out to hedge your bets. What I don't believe will happen is that we keep running and BTC breaks ath anytime this year. That'll be mid next year. Maybe if you feel like it's going to keep running and you are struggling with FOMO put 40-50% in quicky then DCA the rest

dbll888

You can buy a LOT more coins if you buy a crypto that is cheap now and that is going to be used in the coming years. Look up Weiss ratings. You can look at their analysis for free. They've been something like 90% correct in their recommendations over many many years. They show you ratings from A+ to E- and tell you the coins rate of adoption and it's rating in being used by tech co's, etc. ENA is rt below BTC and has an excellent rating and is under 25 cents or it was earlier today.. Grass is cheap and rated very highly too. You'll make more profit by buying the coins that are pretty much just starting out, are cheap and are going to be utilized. If you buy BTC like everyone is saying, your buying power will be a LOT less and your profit will be less. You'll be able to buy much more of these highly rated, inexpensive coins. Do some research and make your own decision. But, get Weiss ratings app is my suggestion.

keepitcasualbrah

Specifically the advice about getting his head straight/not watching news/go to gym/avoid negativity/quit any drugs, smoking, drinking/have good career :) The BTC advice may or may not pan out like you said but if he does all of the above he’ll be good no matter what. Hence, your advice was good :). Cheers and thanks for the comment

GigglesGirth

I've owned BTC since 2016 and still have most of my bag just thought I'd make the joke 🤣🤣

TexasBoyz-713

BTC $100k EoY, this time I’m super **duper** cereal.

r3v3rb_1

On average, 1 BTC costs 100,000,000 sats. This should be the same for everyone.

CrAZiBoUnCeR

Congrats! Got a house last year and getting married next September! I’d also be ecstatic for $250K BTC Dec 2027!

Temporary-Cause730

I'm not buying anything here, I'm all in already, lol. If I had more dry powder I would be buying the coins I listed + BTC/ETH/SOL, but the question was about 4x, and I think these 3 have less potential. 

YoloYield

My avg is 67K 0.37 BTC, is this good enough guys?

Awkward_Product_7428

This is just a big ol' nothing burger, I don't roll out of bed for less than 150k usd BTC.