BTC

Dangerous_Relief8971

$1B liquidations in 24h is just the market's way of saying "leverage is a speed run to disaster." The real lesson: even hedging doesn't work if you're hedging against momentum this size. BTC moves fast, but liquidation cascades move faster.

No-Masterpiece-1513

BTC is going up my man

on_hype

Bitcoin's correlation with geopolitical events is weaker than people assume. Look at the data: Feb 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine, BTC was already in a downtrend and did not accelerate. Markets price in risk before headlines hit. The "war = dump" narrative is lazy pattern matching without evidence.

MrFartyBottom

BTC is nowhere near the all time high.

joos_hubert

I would want the liquidation policy in writing before I cared about the headline rate. For a Bitcoin-backed loan, the dangerous part is usually not the normal month. It is the ugly weekend move where BTC gaps down and you need to know exactly what happens. What starting LTV are they assuming, when does a margin call trigger, how much time do you get to add collateral, and is liquidation automatic or manual? If a lender cannot answer that plainly, I would treat the rate quote as incomplete. Cheap debt is not cheap if the collateral rules are vague.

Embarrassed_fly09

BTC is going up what u on about

gordonfr_

BTC is a topic where there are no wrong opinions. Sub could be right, OP could be right. I just don't know.

gordonfr_

BTC 40,000 when?

EyesFor1

Get a cold card, generate 24 word seed. Send BTC to address generated by seed. Secure seed. Forget about it. No need to complicate it, this is a very easy and secure method.

intermk

I started buying into BTC about 9 yrs ago, on the upswing as I recall. Thought about selling when it reached $124k but greed got the better of me and I kept buying. We all know what happened shortly thereafter. Down about 48% now and I don't think it will ever see it's all-time high again. It's my opinion that crypto is only good for the filthy rich folks. For the rest of us, crypto is dead.

Specialist_Trust4945

"Institutional buyers" don't exist, except for MicroStrategy which is probably doing more harm than good to Bitcoin and crypto in general. BlackRock and similar buy BTC on behalf of their clients, not for their own portfolio - so it's still retail controlling the price although indirectly.

Embarrassed_fly09

Why not just put BTC in a cold wallet and put it under the bed and forget about it?

BaseOk280

I do, but holding it in fiat is a worse pain. I'd rather hold in BTC or gold.

Realistic-Reveal-586

Dm me. I’m hard right now for that BTC.

Ordinary-One2597

What happens when the 21 Million BTC are mined and theres no incentive for Miners anymore to maintain the network? I know its in 2140 long after we all die but still

Crisederire

In 10years he will still have the same number of BTC, I do not get it, what will change ?

TexFarmer

For sure, those who hate freedom also hate BTC and gold even more!

TexFarmer

Congratulations, just out of curiosity, what is your cost basis for that 1 BTC?

HoldOnDearLife

When they liquidate Apple Park, you, as a common stakeholder, would be entitled to none of the money. When MSTR liquidates BTC because they file bankruptcy, you the common shareholder, would be entitled to NONE of the money.

HoldOnDearLife

If/when they collapse as a business, the common share holder gets nothing while everyone else gets paid out by liquidating the BTC. It won't be a 1:1 but it will be a lot of usd for them.

RohitRojo

You don’t need “exposure” to alts. You need patience and risk management. Which leads us to BTC

Ms_TitAdorable

I don't really have a stop-buy price. If I'm DCAing for the long term, I keep buying regardless of price and just hold. If BTC dips more, I might simply buy a little extra.

soaringtiger

the suppression narrative is less about conspiracy and more about market microstructure: large, liquid paper channels buffer and redistribute demand and supply, which tends to flatten the price path and tie BTC more tightly to global risk-on/risk-off flows. Eli5 makes price move less because it takes more steps to get to the final result of BTC purchase or sale.

MRJohnson1997

If I have dollars, I exchange them for BTC. Price isn’t that relevant

NYEXPRESS56

BTC does what it always does. One year down-three years up. It’s the buying season for the smart money.

Top_Bluejay_9483

Without knowing your 50% btc and 50% alts. It would really depend on your alt allocation and conviction. Persoanlly, I think eth is a better play for capitol growth but BTC might have longevity... unless tokenized gold over takes it. Now, moving to a gold standard could be replaced with a BTC standard since btc is already above the required $32k oz gold. Possible yes. Probable, not really.

cubeeless

BTC to $400k!

masonhawaii

Travala. Travel with BTC. Hotel, airline, car rental, activities. Buy credits with BTC then use the credits like cash. We claim it at year’s end but worth it. Travala.

JimmySki6166

You can never have enough BTC! Greatest asset! Keep accumulating for generational wealth!!

just-a-tan-guy

Nice. Like I said I’m super new to investing directly into bitcoin, so my end of year goal is more realistically like 0.02 bitcoin haha. Could very well be a lot more but I’ve got a few juggling priorities at the current moment. BTC is just one bucket I pour into rn

BlazingPalm

You don’t stop. Maybe reduce the DCA percentage. You can also tax loss harvest when it’s low and you have higher cost basis and use HIFO. IE- sell $1000 worth of BTC to pay bills and buy $1050 worth at the same time.

Technical_Car3729

If I have the money $5 daily It ain’t much but it’s honest work. Doesn’t matter what the actual value of BTC is

bitsteiner

With rising valuation people will use mBTC or µBTC at a certain point.

Flashy-Potatoe-Queen

Kraken is a solid platform to make your purchase and/or to trade.... but the first purchase you should make as a beginner is a coldwallet. Buying coins is meaningless if you keep yourself vulnerable. A coldwallet is not a "safety option" it's the minimum requirement. Tangem is probably the best for begginers if you buy a set of 3 and go seedless. Otherwise Ledger and Trezor are also pretty solid. If you want to invest in crypto, you need to know why you are here to pick the right thing for you : - You want to trade ? Pick coins with a lot of volume like BTC, ETH and SOL. - You want to invest long term and let it grow ? Go for decentralisation to avoid long term manipulation with things like BTC, KAS or XMR. - You want to gamble ? At least do your own research to learn how to avoid the most obvious scams, there are tons of it. Good luck on your adventure and trust no one, ESPECIALLY if that personne DMed you first, they are 99.9% of the time dirty scammers acting friendly to empty your accounts.

DecisionThink55

Bitcoin can and probably will still drop another 20%, bare that in mind. I think the safer play would be to sell 50-70% now whilst you are in profit, so that you still have a cash reserve to be able to DCA as price drops. BTC historically during mid term years tends to bottom out October-EOY. Knowing that you can prepare better. Manage your risk and accumulate at a better overall average.

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awesome_onions

Did the Mayans predict BTC market? Are they bullish rn?

brock_h

If you had $16mm you wouldn't be sitting here raging at comments in your free time and talking about how BTC is still going to $20k, you'd be doing something more interesting with your life

teeter1616

BTC is headed to $20,000 why not wait to buy more

Alfador8

Is crypto dead? It *should* be, but BTC dominance is down 4% over the last year. ​ Bitcoin doesn't seem to be weathering the bear market significantly better than the broader crypto space in aggregate. I agree that Bitcoin would be better off with out all the affinity scams around it, but I don't see evidence that the scams are going away.

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quintavious_danilo

Go with reputable and open source wallets like Blue Wallet or Blockstream BTC Wallet (former Blockstream Green)

Wheaties4brkfst

I was saying that, conditional on both of those things being true (low mnav and preferreds below par) then BTC per share, mathematically, must decrease. It’s possible that they stop diluting and rely on the reserve, yeah. But they should already be doing that right now, right? What else is the reserve for if not to pay your dividends while the stock price is low? I’ll be honest I don’t understand why they are just buffering the reserve while mnav is so low. Why do you think they are?

Ok-Lead-9255

It's better to DCA than buy all at once, u can never catch the bottom or the top ( unless you are as good as me who predicted BTC top at 120k ) a certain amount each month is great. But I don't think we will have as big gains on crypto as in the past, it will be more stable with bigger marketcap. I think starting to buy now is great as we are 50% down from the top, we can go 30% more down or up from this point

Wheaties4brkfst

It’s mathematically true as long as STRC isn’t at par and mnav is low. Will they rebound? Maybe. If you’re looking at MSTR rn there isn’t really an incentive to get in as long as STRC remains below par. There isn’t any way to increase BTC per share without the preferreds or new debt. And you will only be more diluted as the company pays more dividends. The only way they could is by selling bitcoin and buying MSTR. Which they might! But we’ll see how much that pushes down the price.

Wheaties4brkfst

Recently though bitcoin per share has only declined. If you bought any time on or after 4/20 you now have less BTC per share. Since the mnav is so low now, any time they offer shares they decrease BTC per share. They also can’t offer any more STRC because it’s so far off par.

Wheaties4brkfst

They’re probably asking about ETH because it only just barely hit its ATH this cycle. They’re probably asking about BTC because we’re entering a period of sustained hashrate decline. Bitcoin also failed to double this cycle so that means miner revenue may be on the decline.

katamarijuana

People could be looking for an attractive entry point. They understand BTC but may not have had the means to buy any

voyager14

Experts recommend a 85/15 bitcoin/BTC allocation

b1mm3rl1f3

Macro risk is turning, looks like this could be the bottoming area for BTC and alts. Everyone calling for a Q4 bottom makes me think we won't get one but nothing surprises me anymore

Opening_Ask_443

When dollar is also down, BTC is up. SPX is actually the instrument that goes up and down with dollar. Though not always, BTC more often than not, moves opposite the direction of USD. Very basic confluence of trading.

Electronic-Rate5497

I think it’s because they have friends/family that own and they wanna see them fail so they hate on BTC.

Just_Fkn_Sayin

It not just BTC. There is a saying- Never tell anyone your plans or goals. Most people will just shit on you because of their own problems.

seansy5000

Bots? Banks hate BTC and have the resources to deploy legions of bots.

blaziken8x

They always ask that when BTC is cheap and they say "Hi, I'm new to crypto what should I buy" when prices are near ATHs.

solenico

I think people have switched to stock shares, indexes, ETFs and mutual funds. Once Saylor fails with his Strategy it’s deal done and end of the story. I would newer put more than 2% of my portfolio on BTC.

cowboy_shaman

Honestly I wish the term “Bitcents” was more popular. It’s defined as 1/100 of 1 Bitcoin. The Bitcoin penny, basically So for $65,000 BTC, one bitcent would be $650, which is much easier to relate to

fan_of_hakiksexydays

But to raise that cash they have to dilute MSTR. And that's gonna plummet it's already plummeting value. Which is gonna limit how much cash they'll be able to raise from that in the future, if they don't want to tank the whole thing. Which means their next option is pretty much gonna be selling their BTC reserve. Because if they raise STRC dividends even more, which is already high, it's gonna raise their cash need obligation even more.

ShittingOutPosts

What are you talking about? Do you think there are rules or something? Everybody’s free to use BTC however they want.

Used-Height-2670

You can set up an automatic transfer on Strike to send your BTC to your HW depending on whatever trigger amount you set

Logical_driver_42

Yuck your in /bitcoin not /memecoin. Even if you were down 50% on BTC it wouldn’t make a difference because it’ll come up over the next five years. Idk what memecoins your are putting your money in but it’s probably gone forever.

The_Bitcoin_Act

Short answer: yes, 1.5 BTC puts you well ahead of the pack — most people never get near a full coin. Around 950,000 wallet addresses hold 1 BTC or more in 2026, under 0.2% of all Bitcoin addresses.

LevelStationaryPlane

I keep selling and rotating into other assets and continue to be proven right lmao. Thanks BTC!

ivanjurman

If that makes you feel better, then yes… but the real meaning is about discipline, are you disciplined enough to still keep holding your BTC even after seeing the value has fallen 50% in the bear market, because that’s the important part, you need to be strong enough to not sell at a 50% loss because to not miss the 100% profit

poughkeepsee

You first mention 10k \*worth\* of bitcoin and then say you’re a multi millionaire. 10k worth of BTC and 10k BTC are wildly different outcomes. Which is it?

Possible-Class5969

Honestly I don't feel like answering this kind of questio again, but... sigh... here we go again I’m not trying to embarrass you. But this isn't the first time I've seen the same sentiment over and over again for how many years already, and you certainly won't be the last. That’s why the 'fear and greed' concept exists—you’re currently stuck in the 'fear' side, so pls do urself a favor and check your psychology. If you’re always on the fear side everytime ur PNL is negative, you aren't cut out for crypto space because BTC has a history of price dropping as low as 90 percent. You are also no different from those who gets overly euphoric the moment crypto goes up by just 25 percent and brag the project behind the coins to the whole nation like their neighbors should also trust and depend their savings on it. When you already decided on something esp with money, it's done. Nevertheless you can no longer prevent urself from being the contrarian of what ur own disposition used to be. Do you think there's still a point debating with others why you should not change ur mind? BTW only a couple of weeks ago, I also just mentioned in one of the subreddit discussions that rookies who buy BTC at higher prices will also be those leading to shout BTC is dead. Yeah...ain't the first time seeing that. And definitely not the last. Always during bear market and black swan events. Always... Now think about this, what if BTC like the rest of the US stocks, change its cycle from 4 to 18 yrs? (which I'm sure you haven't heard yet. Where for US stocks, the cycle is 14 years rally and 4 years recession). Me, I know what's gonna happen, there's gonna be more fear and panic out there for sure.

Antonio_928s4

That video was when each Bitcoin price was $5942.20 per BTC. That must hurt from being a multi millionaire with $326,821,000 Million dollars to over $70K in credit card debt in a couple minutes…

jojothehodler

Pretty much everything in modern systems is using elliptic curve. HTTPS, SSH, JWT... That's already 90% of information traffic... So you can believe that the effort to make quantum resistant algorithms is clearly not a BTC-focused problem. A majority of crypto-experts are working on it worldwide. My knowledge was a few years old, so yeah it seems we already have a very strong algorithm candidate that should be deployed in a few years. Now, will BTC specifically use the same one as everybody else, I have no idea, but from my amateur point of view, I don't see why not. I have a very big luck to be working in a space where a lot of genius are around me (but not me, I'm just an average computer enthusiast), and I sometimes can ask them a few questions. Last time I checked with them, quantum attack were far FAR FAR away from being serious. Like it would need a quick chain of major breakthroughs before it starts to make them raise an eyebrow. So maybe they are too much confident, but personally I align with their point of view of "quantum computing is exponentially difficult to scale, so having to 10x the power is 1000 times harder to build in real life...and we need like at least a hundred times more power than we have...which is 1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 times harder to build...so having faith in our (humanity) ability to innovate is good, but a little realism might also prevent us from rushing too much such an important milestone in the future of communication. TL;DR : I'm an amateur, I just regurgitate the little I think I understand from much smarter people I have the chance to listen to 😊

TrueRead1435

1.5 BTC is far above what most people will ever own. The people you see posting online are a very biased sample—long-term holders tend to be the most vocal.

WittyDay7400

Do u think BTC price is indicative of the blockchain being the foundation of Finance? If you believe BTC has nothing to do with infrastructure (which it doesn’t ) then it can go to zero. But it is the symbol of the blockchain infrastructure - and symbols are powerful. (In financial markets Blockchain based stocks, bonds, derivs, are slowly becoming the norm. It is no longer a question of a solution in search of a problem)

Dangerous_Relief8971

The size is the problem more than the protocol. Split it and TWAP — no single-block route survives 'large amounts' without the dynamic fee spiking. Benchmark each chunk against a CEX quote on ETH/BTC; if your decentralized route is >0.5% worse you're donating to arb bots. And given the [Switcher.finance](http://Switcher.finance) scam thread here last week: only use routes where you can verify the contract yourself, not web frontends recommended in comments.

Possible-Class5969

Sentiments of those who buy BTC at the top. Geez..

IronLawResearch

1.5 BTC puts you in rarer company than most people realize. Only a low single-digit percentage of all addresses hold a full coin or more — and while addresses aren't people (exchanges custody millions of users in a handful of wallets, and one person can hold many addresses), every serious attempt to untangle that still lands in the same place: a wholecoiner is well inside the top few percent of holders, and 1.5 is comfortably beyond that. But honestly, after 30 years around speculative markets, I'd gently push back on the comparison itself. "Am I above average" is the wrong scoreboard. The questions that actually determine whether you keep those 1.5 coins through a full cycle: is the position sized so you can watch it draw down 70% without selling, is none of it money you'll need in the next four years, and do you have an actual plan for what you'd do at cycle extremes instead of a vibe? Plenty of people accumulated more than 1.5 and handed it back to the market by oversizing, panic-selling bottoms, or getting cute with leverage. The average hodler's stack size matters less than the fact that most people, whatever their stack, don't survive with it intact. Being the guy who still owns his coins two cycles later beats being above average.

SpontaneousDream

Show us all time charts of your coins againt USD and BTC Thanks for playing lmao

lockduck1

Wait till you discover Travala. My last 3 vacations paid fully with BTC.

GuitarAlternative336

I'm on 0.1BTC at about $10k AUD worth just DCAd in over the last 12 months If It goes to zero I'm prepared to lose it, if it goes 10x I won't complain

Bradystanish

1.5 BTC is a lot compared to above average holders

Disastrous_Fee5953

You can’t pay for travel or hotel with BTC in most if the world; even in most first world countries. So the fact that no one would accept it is holding me back. Lol.

jojothehodler

Quantum solutions already exists, problem is there are a lot of them. Consensus is being discussed to select "the one". And this is not a BTC consensus, it is a world wide cryptography consensus. No need to worry, we do really have. A lot of time before it becomes a problem, do NOT listen to the headlines of crap newspapers, they really don't know what they are talking about.

Sadlave89

You are this guy, who paid for pizza few hundreds BTC?

Single-Kitchen9702

BTC sentiment can look dead on the surface while bigger players quietly reposition. happens more often than people think.

Visual-Juggernaut455

BTC loves shaking out impatient people while capital quietly rotates behind the scenes lol.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Are BTC and ETH dead?

inadyttap

I bought some more BTC. 

Jadeonchain

Yeah, 1.5 BTC is a very solid stack compared to the average hodler. A lot of people talk about being early, but not everyone actually held through the volatility.

youtubeBitcoinTabs

I expected bitcoind to finish syncing and then showing that the BTC was already spent long ago...

unusual-fire

As there are better alternatives and BTC/ETH fail to innovate, it's hard to allocate funds towards them. So it's only traders and NGU people who try to make money but builders are moving elsewhere. So less dead but more slowly dying.

Rippliever

OG Rule #1: never say how much BTC you have.

TheresNoSecondBest

Here's how spending bitcoin directly looks like: https://youtu.be/Tlhvnpi2ukA If you're thinking about spending some, here are my favorite directories: http://lightningnetworkstores.com/ https://btcmap.org - awesome map, you can even add your local vendors in, once you orangepill them. https://acceptlightning.com/list.html https://spend-sats.com/ https://spendabit.co/ https://directory.btcpayserver.org/ There's also an option of buying gift cards https://thebitcoincompany.com/ https://bitrefill.com https://www.egifter.com/buy-gift-cards-with-bitcoin - this one's least fave because they use a shitty custodian for payments but are handy for a few cards. Spend and earn some sats back: https://foldapp.com - save up to 20% Starbucks, Uber, Target , whole foods , Dunkin https://www.lolli.com – save up to 30% by spending BTC anywhere but primarily USA stores https://satsback.com/stores-list - save up to 20% by spending BTC anywhere but primarily Europe stores.

Jonny_Sidepin

You mentioned it would take you two years to save up the extra 13k for the bike, is a bike really worth two years of your life? Is there an option where you can earn more money somehow? You might be better off taking that 7k you have and using it to pay for some training/education to gain new skills and monetise that so that you can earn more? Or using it to start a side business so that you can then earn more, save faster? Both of those options at least leave you potentially better off in the future as well as getting the bike, rather than gambling that BTC will go up 200% before then.

degenerativeguy

It could but no one is using that because why🤷‍♂️. Same thing with btc units. Do you say you buy a cup of coffee wi**th 0.00005445 BTC or 5445 satoshis. Smaller units are invented beca**u**se **i**ts just easier to u**se.

Zestyclose-Suit-2858

Bro I'm like 85% in BTC. The 95 is because it went down from All time High. :)

Important_Neck_2122

I've been purchasing almost 1ks worth of BTC each week for almost 5 yrs. And will keep doing so, for my daughters future. Best asset you can purchase in my opinion.

Choice_Employee_7739

Thanks for sharing! So you mean the architectures of BTC and ETH are fixed now. Could their developers update or scale them for better use?

DreamingTooLong

I’m buying $.25 worth every 60 minutes using STRIKE ($180/month) It auto transfers to a hardware wallet once I have a balance of 200,000 sats They allow as little as 100,000 sats for auto transfer but too many inputs is a pain in the ass in the future. (100k sats = 1/1000th of a BTC)

Forded_Fiction24

If your goal is accumulating the most BTC as possible, then it's best to not just invest in BTC actually  I wouldn't have near as much Bitcoin as I do now if I had ironically only invested in Bitcoin exclusively. Different assets have different investment time horizons. I find it advantageous to have some short to medium term investments and then roll those profits into buying more Bitcoin for the long haul

Nick700

Strike is an exchange not a self custody wallet so they don't give you any seed phrase because there aren't any specific bitcoin set aside for anyone, they just show you an IOU of how much BTC you've purchased, until a request to withdraw is made then they actually gather the correct amount of BTC and send it from any random one of their wallets

thuthanh

*BTC at $72K, Robinhood Chain doing $500M volume, and people still say crypto is dead. Okay.*

LongDaysPleasntNites

Ther have been a bunch over the years. Do a couple searches and I’m sure they’ll come up. Millions in value lost. I stopped paying attention to them and only focus in on BTC

macetheface

there's less than 1M people in the world that own more than 1 BTC https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html And this assumes each wallet is 1 person which is not necessarily true so it's less. 0.01% of the world's population. Not a lot of people with more than 1BTC are going to be posting here anyway and the ones that do are prob fake/ bots. r/cc is rife with bots