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KFC_Tuesdays

These post must be set to set a narrative I’ve noticed that with these money groups. You really think Trump cussed a pull back? That’s right another victim lost in the gains hopium forgetting our recent run up from ~30K USD to ~120k USD. We need a pull back we need a bear market to set higher lows and a new foundation for BTC to discover higher prices. No sustainable asset goes up forever, people forget politics and your mind set of “mAy gO uP MaY gO dOwN” clearly we can use tools to our advantage to create wealth for ourselves. If you are willing to take a risk and think outside the box. Discounted bear market BTC is on its way will you take your opportunity or squander it again.

arod422

With us already seeing major fluctuations through movements of BTC, who’s to say it can’t be manipulated in the future?

Nossa30

Well don't buy Alts. I said BTC not Alts. If you want to gamble on Alts that's on you. I stick with the trusted and proven.

SilkenicDud

Hey, so that advice might be worth a shot. Usually, banks see transfers as safer than card payments, so they're less likely to block them. Just keep in mind it really depends on your bank. Some folks are good for ages, while others get flagged out of nowhere if their usual activity changes – even if everything's legit. Honestly, that random uncertainty is the real issue. You could be doing the same thing each month then suddenly get frozen with zero warning. That's why some folks split things up and go with something built for crypto instead of messing with old-school bank rules. I've heard people talk about blackcatcard. It’s an EU thing that’s got your own IBAN, crypto stuff built in (buying, selling, sending BTC, ETH, USDT, USDC) and a normal Mastercard for everyday buys. Having something like that along with your regular bank can cut down on the times you get a headache, mainly when transfers are in the mix

JackedUpNGood2Go

" 5 years from now everyone will be holding BTC and we will be buying groceries with DOGE" - the average low IQ crypto head in 2021

justlukedotjs

This only makes sense if you don't know how trading works. BTC can be unpredictable, but not to the extent that you can't reliably trade on it. The trades I make are low risk and low reward, but if I make 5-10 successful trades in a month, i can reliable make +5% every month. It just takes time to learn spot good trades. I recently sold at 94k on the way down because of failed retests. It was a high probability (not a certainty) that price would fall hard. And even if price went up, after I sold, I still have many opportunities for trading again. Trader mentality and investor mentality are completely different. I used ti be. HODLer, but i realised I could do both... the HODLer side of things takes almost ni effort

Lilkongt

You can still make money without excess risk by allocating less to BTC when overpriced then allocating more when you think it’s a good but by opportunity. I think the chance it drops to 60k is low, but could happen with the right macroeconomic event within the next 6 months 

SouthTippBass

There were only 3 coins on Coinbase in 2017. BTC, ETH, LTC.

superanth

Likely BTC only dropped because people/institutions needed liquidity. With the dollar cratering in value they probably need more fiat to cover the bills.

soursop_magnolia

this is not yet over, BTC was supposed to break the last bottom to go up

Mammon84

Hahahahaha you are pretty Clueless on Gold buddy 🤣 Gold is up times 2.5 from its previous bull market ATH and it's not done yet! Something BTC failed to do despite all the hype! These are just facts. Also yes gold bear cycles take a much longer time then crypto bear cycles. But so do the BULL cycles in Gold, we are not done yet! But yes i expect a correction soon.

Leithm

It's not where it does but how long it stays there. They can pay their commitments for a couple of years. They are a drag on BTC on the way down and a boost on the way up.

DudeFilA

BTC is too closely linked to the USD performance. Great for situations like what we saw in Iran, not great for when the American system goes to shit. Either way, keep holding and it'll go back up eventually. Just like the US economy.

cooltone

I think OP's question is legitimate. Most currencies are built on dispersed mass confidence. It is quite rational for everyone to follow and use a common exchange token because everyone wants the confidence that their token can be exchanged for the same value as when purchased. Sometimes it pays to be a sheep. If a set of BTC holders decide to sell, it could have a big impact. Today I believe it's unlikely to topple BTC because retailers hold a significant share. Years from now I expect that institutional ownership will be globally diversified making challenging for a subset institutions to topple bitcoin.

TheresNoSecondBest

Here's how spending bitcoin IRL looks like: https://youtu.be/Tlhvnpi2ukA I'm using Bitcoin almost on a daily basis. Buying groceries, paying for meals, taxis, domains/hosting, VPN... Spend and replace is usually the name of the game so no, I'm not spending bitcoin while saving in cash. If you're thinking about spending some, here are my favorite directories: http://lightningnetworkstores.com/ https://btcmap.org - awesome map, you can even add your local vendors in, once you orangepill them. https://acceptlightning.com/list.html https://spend-sats.com/ https://spendabit.co/ https://directory.btcpayserver.org/ There's also an option of buying gift cards https://thebitcoincompany.com/ https://bitrefill.com https://www.egifter.com/buy-gift-cards-with-bitcoin - this one's least fave because they use a shitty custodian for payments but are handy for a few cards. The custodian might steal your sats and ask for a KYC before releasing them, so go with tiny amounts only if really need to use them. Spend and earn some sats back: https://foldapp.com - save up to 20% Starbucks, Uber, Target , whole foods , Dunkin https://www.lolli.com – save up to 30% by spending BTC anywhere but primarily USA stores https://satsback.com/stores-list - save up to 20% by spending BTC anywhere but primarily Europe stores.

PoolExpress4655

I spend my BTC via Lightning to save on fees. And yea, mostly online stuff, but if I see small cafes accepting BTC while I travel, then I tend to buy a coffee.

Mammon84

Gold doesnt crash nearly as hard as crypto dude. Also the bear markets in PM are getting shorter and shorter. Also the risk in Gold is way way less then in Crypto. As for the crazy returns in crypto, lets look at it this way: BTC top was 69K in 2021 and it could not even double that this bull market. Cirrently its sitting at 80k. 1 million by 2030 is not looking good brav

crazy_lolipopp

Aww I thought I was gonna wake up and see sub 80k BTC, that's really disappointing

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Fit_Employment_2595

While it's not fun going down, Imagine going back to like 2017 and telling people you're pissed that BTC went DOWN to 80k.

HTKmusic

You just posted a screenshot showing how much BTC was sold. Where’s the exact reason dude? Dvmb@ss Post😂 The reason is microsoft crash which caused the nasdaq crash then gold and silver and then of course btc… Showing a screenshot is not the „exact reason“ dude wtf😂

dca-bot

I keep a lightning wallet (Wallet of Sathoshi) on my phone. Evertime I see a BTC sign in a shop I use BTC to pay. Spread the gospel !!

PapaCryptopulus

1 billion prob wouldn't even move BTC. Saylor buys that trash every week and it still goes down

Assist_Lumpy

I use fold app it's a Bitcoin debit card. TLDR: Fold app is like a middle man debit card so you can seamlessly move between BTC and usd. You can receive your paycheck in cash turn it immediately to BTC or if you have BTC you can buy gift cards for a bunch of brands in usd or BTC and it's pretty easy to sell BTC into your debit card balance. Lmk if you need a referral or better not in depth explanation!

SpecialVariation9825

Je ne pense pas que ce soit une surprise, tout les gens qui suivent le BTC depuis plusieurs cycles savent que cette courbe ressemble beaucoup a celles des cycles précedents, il y a juste un decalage dans le temps car il y a une adoption plus large et donc les mouvements prennent plus de temsp. Est ce que je trompe

AstroRoverToday

If you had a solid plan you wouldn't need a push. So, no. First, create a plan, like for example: I will buy BTC with X amount of fiat and let it sit there for Y years because of reasons A, B, and C, and I'm certain I don't need that money due to D, E, and F.

BaadMike

One of my limit orders is set at $69,420.00. Planning to buy 0.69420008 BTC. Gonna cost $48,191.37. I hope the order fills just for nostalgia. Still DCA'ing every month regardless.

DRAGULA85

Your hypothetical: \*If you buy $50k at $100k/BTC You have 50M sats, then BTC drops to $70k for 3 years and doesn't go back up to $100k\* My hypothetical: If you buy $50k at $100k/BTC You have 50M sats, then BTC moons to $170k (which isn't an outlandish price) doesn't go back down to $100k. Then I have stacked more sats than you? So is your glass half empty or is it half full? I would assume you would likely think bitcoin would go higher over the long term or am I mistaken>

Simke11

You can't, that's the best part. If you are smart you'll realise BTC is what you should be stacking during bear.

JOliverScott

Utility yes, value no. Unless you think it'll be to BTC what Amazon was to B&N. 

PinoTo0ns

If you buy $50k at $100k/BTC You have 50M sats, then BTC drops to $70k for 3 years and doesn't go back up to $100k. During all that time I'm DCA, then after 5 years BTC slowly goes back up to $100k. I've stacked more sats than you, my average price is well below $100k.

-Allot-

Totally true. But what it has is history and actual application. All BTC is currently is a bagholder asset.

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DRAGULA85

On the contrary. I am thinking long term. Run it through chatGPT and see for yourself: Lump Sum vs Weekly DCA (10 Years) Hypothetical: • BTC price = $100k • cash to Invest = $50k • 10 years time horizon (long term) • 30% annual growth Lump Sum – Buy 0.50 BTC – Final value ≈ $690k – 50,000,000 sats Weekly DCA – ~$96/week – ~0.22 BTC total – Final value ≈ $304k – ~22,000,000 sats Difference – 28M fewer sats with DCA – ~$386k less value – Lump sum = ~2.3× more BTC

Slum-Bum

Stay strong even when it hits $30K/BTC. Not kidding

Low_Date1078

Back up the dump truck and start loading up on MSTR and BTC!! #LFG 🚀🚀

PinoTo0ns

Lol, you're talking about fees, so long-term investing isn't for you then 🤣 I do DAILY DCA on BTC, so DAILY fees. But over time, I'm at around 50% profit. The fees have been more than absorbed.

PirateSKB

Nono, I mean if it drops into the 70ks. If it drops to 10k, i'm buying a whole BTC, and probably more than one lol

Azatis-

This is the paradox of it .... we do not see any like we used to be. Major alts hit all time lows or close to that already with BTC at 100-90k

ShmoodyNo

BTC is a glorified tech stock. Simple as.

Dongerated

Binance topped up its SAFU fund to $1B in early November 2022. BTC was around $20k then, dipped to ~$16k later that month, and rose to over $60k by February 2024.

xianthus

Lol, they're afraid of the crypto market crashing. Else they have no more money to gain. So now they're pumping BTC to extract more money from the masses. Fuck them

Key_Skill_2120

Because BTC if a ponzi

qwertydcf

Buy 75% BTC and 20% ETH 5% in shitcoins, jmo

MK2809

It's looking more likely! We'll see if BTC bottoms out in October

Extreme_Homeworker

You’re not crazy and Coinbase isn’t stealing from you, but their UI definitely makes this confusing. When you buy on Coinbase simple buy, you’re not buying at the chart price you see. You’re buying at their quoted price, which already includes spread plus fees. In fast moves, that spread can be a few hundred bucks on BTC. The chart you’re checking is usually a mid-market or last trade price, not the actual execution price Coinbase gives you. They also lock the quote for a few seconds, and if price moves during that window, you still get the quoted price. If you want tighter pricing, use Coinbase Advanced and place limit orders. Same account, way less spread, much clearer fills. So not a shit wallet, just an expensive and beginner-friendly one.

GooferMcDaniels

Interesting to see how much BTC will bleed against metals. If it holds around 70 - 80k whilst metals plummet 20%+ then I'd be pretty stoked about the future of BTC.

Dongerated

Binance topped up its SAFU fund to $1B in early November 2022. BTC was around $20k then, dipped to ~$16k later that month, and rose to over $60k by February 2024.

DullSheepherder4684

I know it's tempting, but really only invest what you wouldn't mind losing. Think long term, are you gonna need this money within the next 5-10 years? Crypto is incredibly volatile, even BTC still nowadays. There are no guarantees or protections, so you gotta understand the risks. Like what other people are suggesting, spread out your investment to reduce the risk a little rather than going all in

Expensive_Special120

I cant wait for MSTR to fold. Its going to pull BTC down to absolute amazing levels.

nantesdeals

You're asking for a smarter version? Here it is: BTC below 90k, you add + BTC above 90k, you subtract This way you smooth out your price better... Of course, the range I'm mentioning is the current one; it's up to you to redefine it as the market evolves... In a year, we'll probably be closer to 120k...

ExplanationHead6727

this is the dip Ive been waiting ….im back bitcoin. Long story short …. Celsius screwed me and I’ve been salty about BTC since . Welcome me back Haha

trucker-123

Most alts won’t survive until the next BTC cycle. That’s why you get BTC and not alts.

zooka19

Still profitable on BTC, ETH, SOL, BNB, but XRP... pahahaha

zooka19

Still profitable on BTC, ETH, SOL, BNB, but XRP... 

OkZucchini5351

If even just 10% of the current market cap of gold would flow to BTC, the price would go to $235K. There's gonna be so much liquidity when gold tanks it's insane.

nanotothemoon

Ok BTC was at 89k 2 days ago too.

Teddeybeard

Stop trying to time the market. If you believe BTC is a store of value/whatever your thesis is, DCA in & chill. The market will lay the truth bare over time.

Fbar123

My goal is to own 1 BTC, your goal is to own $ 100 000 worth of Bitcoins. We're not the same.

JohnSnowHenry

Gold is actually valued and it’s used for a lot of real things in the world… BTC has value just because people choose to think that way

Utopian-Mind

Only the long-term holder survives, no matter BTC, Gold or anything else.

Routine_Bake5794

A B up, like usual, at some point in time, erasing shorters and giving false hope to BTC on the moon dreamers.

petragta

20k on a CEX… Go buy a ledger or a BitBox02 and learn how to much your BTC to a cold wallet…

FuckM0reFromR

Eventually fear will subside, and greed will cause capital to flow out of gold and into riskier assets. But that's years away, and no guarantee BTC will still be relevant by then.

DBRiMatt

Are they still buying daily BTC?

DBRiMatt

Was going to say, BTC didn't even drop to 10k last winter. xD

Sphan_86

Short, BTC it'll go up

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DBRiMatt

I actively trade only a small fraction of my ETH, while I only buy BTC on the dips. It's been working for me!

DryMyBottom

BTC will

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Rexide

Saw the Price this Morning and bought some BTC 😂

setokaiba22

This seems utter stupid raising more shares to buy more BTC when they have an ongoing debt pile or is that just me? Why not just invest in BTC yourself directly rather than buying shares in these so called ‘BTC’ treasury companies. If the bank comes calling and they can’t pay their debt you lose. At least if it’s your own BTC you’d still have it

wbg777

Can’t believe these posts are a thing at an 82k BTC. Looking like the shitcoin subs

flying-fox200

Because it's risky. When BTC reached $60K, there were those who sold and said "I'll buy back at $40K!"... but it never dropped that low again. You never know when BTC will do what it does and just... skyrocket. If it does, and you sold, then you're in trouble. If you've has a good experience doing what you do, I'm happy for you, but I think the most sensible thing for most is to take luck out of the equation and just hold.

Red-RebelZz

With that logic, BTC was under $1k a few years ago, so if we’re above that, we shouldn’t be freaking out lol? A 33% drop from its ATH in a few months is a sign of a crash.

twitch4685

BTC right this second

More_Supermarket5068

10 Dollars? Take That Money and invest on Books of something, but for BTC is that nothing nothing

Livid_Friend_307

narrator: this time was indeed not different on my way to scoop another whole BTC this year, feels great to be patient and respect the 4 year cycle

aaj094

How are DATs bad actors? They very publicly and transparently accumulate BTC. Not remotely like the as yours you mentioned.

Expensive_Special120

BTC going to 30k. Nice

ubermensch1001

Yeah, man, I honestly don't get it. I think most of these people are either new(ish) to the market, bought at or near the tops OR were overly invested in alts and severely underwater because they bought at the incorrect time in the market. Hell, BTC was at 74k back in April of 2025 during all that drama with the tariffs, and we are still above this. Even if we are in a bear market, the 200 week is at a tad under 60k right now and this would represent just about the lowest it could go, or very close to it. This is only about a 30% drop from where we stand right now, it's like buying BTC at 25-30k in the spring of 2022 before it finally capitulated below 20k. This, in addition to alts being back to the prices we were at BEFORE the 2024 election, means we are either at the bottom OR very close to it, which there is an even stronger case for this given macro economic conditions, etc.

Quirky_Locksmith5128

Only 15k above the previous ath that was over 4 years ago is pretty shitty. BTC has matured as an asset class is being bought by ETFs and institutions and Nation States and all it has to show for it is a measly 15k above the previous ATH. Pretty underwhelming and definitely undervalued. It absolutely boggles my mind that it’s not 150-200k by now.

tornavec

I'd rather lose money than my freedom and conscience. That said, I never trusted Trump—he's a contrived personality. That's why I sold BTC at 100K, planning to re-enter at $60K. For now, I'm still earning on altcoins.

Sensitive_Yellow_123

Same situation here. Getting filled on limit orders I placed months ago. I’ve been in Bitcoin since 2016 and I’ve lived through multiple cycles and ugly drawdowns. The cycle doesn’t play out as cleanly anymore, but the story never changes: months where everyone says Bitcoin is dead and nobody wants it. That’s when money is made in BTC. Not at ATH. Yet somehow most people will still buy the top and sell the bottom. Once again, reminding myself: be bullish when people are scared, and be cautious when everyone is bullish.

CryptographerTop8629

That is a very nice thought but not everyone has the possibility to just spontaneously buy 0.01BTC

verysillyman

Who would’ve thought 2025 and 2026 would be even worse than 2022. Almost every coin besides BTC is much lower now

Horror-Sector7498

yes, but only briefly. There were a few short windows where alts outpaced BTC, but they were rotation pops, not a full alt season. Capital quickly flowed back to Bitcoin, which usually means the market is still in a BTC-dominant phase, not a full cycle shift.

braamdepace

If you’ve been in BTC for 15 years and aren’t a whole coiner… I don’t want to take your advise

Horror-Sector7498

I wouldn’t see it as BTC vs gold, more different roles: * Gold = capital preservation * Bitcoin = asymmetric upside over time Your allocation actually looks pretty balanced already. Going forward, I’d personally keep gold for stability, BTC for long-term growth, and only add risk when sentiment is dead not when hype is loud.

txrambler

Damn straight OP! I believe in BTC long term (10+ years), price drops dont scare me - they’re opportunities. People freak out because they’re over-leveraged, secretly short-term, or glued to the chart instead of the thesis. If nothing about your conviction has changed, lower prices just mean better DCA and more sats. Red days only hurt when belief is weak.

Horror-Sector7498

Most people use Coinbase Advanced now — same account, lower fees, more control. The regular app is fine for simple buys but pricier. For 2026, many stick to BTC, ETH, maybe SOL for growth, and some are also watching RYO for its focus on real-world payments and compliance. Start slow, avoid hype, and ease back in with small buys.

heisenbugz

Unless people leave it for some other more feature rich currency (like a community funded UBI option). Which I imagine is inevitable in tech. BTC could remain the reserve currency though; depending on # engaged participants.

heisenbugz

Why BTC? Is this better than trading🌷?

A1JX52rentner

Won 0.005 BTC from kraken yesterday. Didn't expect to be able to lower my 39k Average

jwz9904

**Binance will convert the SAFU fund’s \~$1B stablecoin reserves into BTC with the process completing within the next 30 days.** The SAFU fund will undergo regular rebalancing based on its market value. Should BTC price movements cause it to fall below $800M, Binance will replenish it to $1B. We believe Bitcoin is the foundational asset of this ecosystem and the premier long-term store of value. By making this move, we’re embracing market cycles and standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the industry, just as we always have.

PirateSKB

If BTC drops like $10k saylor is gonna be underwater and a bagholder (well, MSTR will be a bagholder). There's no guarantee that it'll drop that far (anything is possible), but I do wonder if Saylor thinks about the optics and how skittish investors might get

Rallino_

Easy to say. When you got bought BTC at 7$ 🤣 Btw I also trust BTC future il bright, that is normal cycle, I guess it could go even lower at 70-60k, but nobody know the future, let's see , this is part of the game, let's all celebrate when it go back up to 200k in few year

RiceVast8193

I used the eqivelant of what would at its height be over 8 million dollars in BTC to buy a $40 peice of software way back in the day. I think about it every time I close my eyes at night...

jesse059

I used the eqivelant of what would at its height be over 8 million dollars in BTC to buy a $40 peice of software way back in the day. I think about it every time I close my eyes at night...