BTC

perhapssergio

Try to be closer to 1 BTC at 22. Not bad tho

Burrito-Picoso

Better than 0.332, worse than 0.334. =\] Saving in BTC is never wrong. You are doing great.

Head_Work8441

You have 2 BTC and you are almost 65, Best case scenario, if you survive till you are 75 and healthy( That is the main driving factor) If you are able to walk and talk till then, and you have your memory intact, I would say your 70s will be wonderful, I am happy for you that you have 2 BTC. do not pass those onto your children, Just utilise them for your own benifit I am mid 30s, I have around 0.4 BTC, I do not plan on growing that investment as of now because of my other expenses, I am planning to keep myself healthy and survive till 2065, If in next 10 years BTC blows up and becomes a big asset type, We will win. If not, I will pull the plug and invest in something else. but for now, I dont see anything else catching up right now.

Spiritual_Toe_622

Love seeing the BTC/gold chart, the trend is undeniable even if we're still far from that 41 oz peak

Darth_Liberty

Well I've been calling bullshit on the four year cycle since I first heard it, and right now I'm continuing to call bullshit on sub $60k future BTC prices. Look, black swans - as you alluded to - can occur. But in that case it will be a Covid-style flash crash with a V-bounce, not a sustained price level. The fundamentals of BTC are just too strong to allow for sub-$60k prices. The floor has been well established as per the exceedingly solid base price trendline one can see on a BTC Power Law chart. In a world in which SPY (and numerous others) could well crash, toppling entire markets, hard assets like BTC will initially be sold off to prop up etherral fiat-based assets, but will then rapidly be reaquired by those rushing into hard assets precisely because fiat markets are cracking at the seams. BTC has been running close to the base levels for a long time now. Weak hands are largely gone and funds have CONTINUALLY been moving into the hands of longer and longer term hodlers. I stand firmly by my declaration of no further BTC prices in the $40ks and $50ks.

Cryptomuscom

Better than 0.0 BTC at any age, keep DCAing and stay humble

Impossible_Try_1985

The best thing is that you learned investing in the right asset from a young age. You don’t only own BTC now, but also a great mindset. But do not invest money you might need in short term, so you never have to sell your BTC.

jojothehodler

It's 1/100000000 of the total supply of BTC that will ever exists.

Ok-Independence6469

I had my opportunity to get about 0.3 BTC twice. I would’ve had about 0.6-0.65 BTC had I made a rational decision. Instead I chose to gamble and poof 🤣🤣

TameemJi

Most people don’t even have 0.003 BTC (\~$250). You’re doing great.

jawni

Pump and dump schemes are how I found out there were coins besides just ETH and BTC, but this was back in 2017. I was playing PUBG competitively at the time and someone from the community posted on Twitter like "isn't this shit illegal?" I joined the discord to check it out, basically it was pyramid scheme where the more people you got invited to the discord, the earlier they would tell you what coin was being pumped. I tried it once out of curiousity, put in like $10 and the coin they picked pumped but only for like 30 seconds and by the time you knew which one it was, most of the pump was already over. I imagine it works similarly now, but instead they probably just launch their own coin.

quintavious_danilo

A 50% drop is very tame in terms of BTC volatility. I suspect it’s going to go there next bear market.

salinungatha

I suggest plugging your numbers into a Bitcoin retirement calculator and seeing what options you might have. I think the best ones are based on the Power Law floor which is by no means a guarantee but historically has held. There is risk and only you know what risk holds best for you. Prima facie, you might already be good with low expenses and 2 BTC. PowerLawfloor.com/retirement Bitcoincompounding.com Satsplanner.app Charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/

JSIECJ

Once quantum computing can find the keys those "dead" old wallets will be hacked and the BTC will be moved to then (hopefully) quantum resistant wallets, so they will come back in supply. How long this will take depends entirely on the innovations in quantum computing. As for cold wallets I am not entirely sure if quantum computing can break those as well, perhaps somebody else has more knowledge on this subject.

id-ltd

Theres discussion of freezing old wallets. The early encryption was not as good and soonish they will be crackable. If satoshis stack was opened up the value of BTC would plummet. So maybe at some point just reject tx with the old encryption..although I guess you could just count them as tainted so people can chose whether to accept anything that derives from them.

No-Woodpecker-6188

I would definitely sell at least one of your coins. It might recover ATH but it could also set a new low, you don’t have the luxury of all in to a high risk investment. If it was me I’d sell both, I’m all aboard BTC but not with money that I can’t afford to lose.

bobbyv137

Your number is incorrect. [20.09m BTC have been mined to-date](https://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/dashboard/). The number of truly 'lost' will never be accurately verified. Almost every week you hear of dormant wallets from 10+ years ago 'coming back to life'. The only coins we can reliably claim as 'negated' would be Satoshi's. But some people claim if they're not wholly 'his'. If I had to put a number on it: I'd guesstimate 3m.

Vagelen_Von

Someone must give a reward to the dumpster guy for contributing to scarcity of BTC.

Right_Strength2170

Small shakeout before BTC reclaims 87k.

Wild_Opportunity6623

BTC lost the May high.

Thaddaeus_Undergrade

I'll be your friend, if you will remember me once that one BTC is worth millions

Onemoretimego1

That's the problem with trying to calculate "lost" BTC. You can measure coins that haven't moved in 10+ years, but you can't tell the difference between someone who lost the keys and someone who is just extremely committed to doing absolutely nothing. Either way those coins aren't exactly adding much sell pressure.

Protrado_com

Getting past 1 BTC is one of those milestones that probably feels completely different after years of stacking. Congrats.

Turbulent-Land-5664

Its botheringme more and more, however, the interest is 6.5% and someof that is leveraged into my BTC which has easily by far recovered the interest I have paid - and it has not always been this much. Also my car and TFSA will pay that off so it is covered. The health insurance is too prohibitive, visas can be a pain, but I can get a 1 year retirement vias where I am going, and Ive been there already and know all about that part of things.

Weary_Strawberry2679

Basically, you can identify a short squeeze in the Bitcoin market by watching for a sudden, aggressive price spike driven by massive waves of forced short liquidations and rising trading volume. Try to look for date/time correlations here: [https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/?timeframe=1M](https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/?timeframe=1M) (the regular BTCUSD price chart, for example around 18 September and onwards to the peak) Then look into this: [https://cryptoquant.com/asset/btc/chart/derivatives/short-liquidations?exchange=all\_exchange&symbol=all\_symbol&window=DAY&sma=0&ema=0&priceScale=log&metricScale=linear&chartStyle=column](https://cryptoquant.com/asset/btc/chart/derivatives/short-liquidations?exchange=all_exchange&symbol=all_symbol&window=DAY&sma=0&ema=0&priceScale=log&metricScale=linear&chartStyle=column) (the SHORT liquidation chart for Bitcoin over all exchanges) - you could identify a similar spike in short liquidations. Another assisting graph to look into is this: [https://www.coinglass.com/liquidations/BTC](https://www.coinglass.com/liquidations/BTC) It tells you what is the status and volume of liquidations and to which direction they point to: LONG or SHORT.

Shays_P

If you can spend it as BTC, the aus gov't doesnt have a way to track it, so it woulnt be an issue. If youre gonna cash it out though, they'll know.  I dont know where you can buy coffee with BTC in Australia though, I dont think theres too much you can realistically get. Buying $500 gift cards at a time?

neatly_brown_voltage

Sounds like the move to southeast asia is the right call if you can handle the healthcare situation there and the visa runs. 2100/month goes a lot further in places like thailand or vietnam, but you'd need to budget for flights back occasionally and maybe private insurance since provincial coverage won't follow you. The 0.00333 BTC monthly sell is basically a 25 year runway on one coin, which is not crazy at all if you think BTC trends up over that horizon. Just watch the tax side carefully, canada still wants its cut on capital gains even if you're non resident depending on how you structure your departure. Might be worth talking to a cross border accountant before you pull the trigger on leaving. Also that 24k credit line creeping up is the thing that would keep me up at night, not the BTC. If rates stay high that debt compounds fast and eats whatever you're saving by moving abroad. Maybe sell a small chunk now to kill the credit line while BTC is up near 120, then start the monthly DCA after.

ZMetrics_net

That’s totally valid. If you treat BTC purely as long-term savings and don’t care about checking the price, then this probably isn’t for you. ZMetrics is more aimed at people who like keeping an eye on the market regularly.

ZMetrics_net

Yeah, I know there are already a lot of tools like this. The idea is to keep improving ZMetrics with more useful features and build trust over time, especially around privacy and security. And yeah, I get that this is a Bitcoin subreddit, not an altcoin one. But even if you only hold BTC, the extension can still be useful as a quick way to check the price, set alerts, and eventually get a simple daily overview without opening another site.

curvyanna85

Thinking about I spend about 7 BTC a week to buying some green online back then is driving me crazy 😂 But staking the first one must feel great Happy for you you made it Achieved more in your life than most people can and will ever achieve Kudos well done my man

Worldly-Ad-1274

0.1 atm, I hope some day I reach also the 1 BTC milestone 🙏

blueboi6969

if it just BTC ur looking for STRIKE is the way to go. No fee dca and free to move inte cold storage.

MhattiBri

>BTC failed. We know, we saw it happen. The attempt at mainstream adoption was made, but then it was turned into a volatile vehicle for speculative investment -the reason why 99% of the subreddit is here- and so the places that were piloting accepting it stopped doing so.

Active_Objective8285

Still waiting for $40K? BTC clearly had other plans 😂

Hour_Flounder1405

okay it's been a while since I've been charitable. so pay attention...like you didn't last time when I was first charitable back in July can called the 57K a major hard support floor...and that turned out to be true, because I am not wrong about major swing points. ever. You don't need to know how I do this, but just understand that my only agenda here is altruism. 100 percent charity. take or leave it. I'll not be responding to any questions or requests. over the next 180 days. BTC has a 44 percent chance of touching 53K a 51 percent chance of touching 59K. a 63 percent change of hitting 74K. to the upside, a 12 percent chance of hitting 96K. a 14 percent chance of hitting 92 K. a 98 percent chance of hitting percent chance of hitting 85 K. here is your trade range: place limit buy orders from 74K down to 53K. weight them to furnish a good average entry. Take profit at 85K, and at 92K and at 96K. The likelihood of BTC marking any new significant all time high in the next 180 days is very very low. So you are now committed a range trade model. It's wide enough to make some profits, just please don't get greedy and lever up on margin. Don't use margin at all for these trades. If I have to explain that to you, then you just have not traded long enough, in which case I reiterate that you not trade on leverage....ever. not perps for this one. Just straight plain vanilla. long term. There is a macro hard floor of support that extends down to 43K and even one large tranche at 22, and below that 17K. Now this IS your risk with these trades, but probabilities hold these are nearly practically impossible to mark unless there is complete market structural failure. And then we will be talking about much more serious issues...asteroid impacts, mega quakes, nuclear war, gamma burst disuptions, alien invasion and snakes on the plane. that sort of thing. But if we assume those black swans are gonna be the doom of us anyway, what is the loss of a bitcoin trade. One needs to have perspective about risks. some are credible and others are actually impossible to manage because they represent a problem that cannot be solved. The risks I am talking about toward 43 is actually real. But below that, unlikely. So if you are really risk averse, then set your limit orders all the way down to 43. Will that happen in the next 180 days? if 43 does get marked yes, it will likely happen in the next 180 days. after that presuming bitcoin does not retrtace below the current hard floor support of 57K/53K then we should see bitcoin take off again and make the all time high again and go to 160K is pretty fast clip. you are welcome

Lord_Mythand

Depends entirely on the FED rate hike and the performance of US Tech stocks (BTC has been behaving like a tech stock)

johnpress

When bitcoin was new you could go on a website, click a button and you're get like 50 btc. Thousands of BTC on my mom's PC probably hawked for drugs over a decade ago RIP. Good job on your milestone though!

Old_Cucumber_1343

dont tell anyone IRL you own BTC, ever. it sucks. i'm going to be rich off btc too one day. but i won't tell a soul. if you want you can DM me as long as you're ok with me revealing nothing about myself, but we can celebrate together when it hits 1 million.

Eren__08

The “wake up → Fed prints money → buy Bitcoin → repeat” cycle 😂 At this point the alarm clock should just say “check BTC.”

CaltonSmith

The whole reason of BTC was to NOT exchange it with Fiat to trade Fiat for goods but to Trade BTC directly for goods. If You have to exchange it for Fiat to Trade for goods BTC failed. Or is still Not matured. However you want to Look at it.

QuickStopMaster

A friend of mine sold a bag of weed to a guy back in the day (when Bitcoin was newish). He had no idea how to use it. The guy paid him 50BTC and he's held on to it ever since.

Sin-City-Sinner

Some places are even worse, and yea that was my point to the person who said 1.0023BTC will make you rich when it goes to $1,000,000, even in the US your only walking away with 600k maybeeeeee, unless you don’t cash it out and use it wisely, but your still not rich.

Upper-Media3769

I feel you. I achieved that a few months ago. It's better to keep it private. In 10 years you don't want anyone to know your BTC balance.

Professional_Track95

Higher gain (50-100%+) when keep holding BTC. No waiting to trade on market hours.

Top-Care-8946

I am doing just like that: Buying BTC from Exchanges like Kraken and then send them directly to my hardware wallet. So far no problems. One thing what must be taken into account that exchanges may freeze accounts or decline to initiate transactions if they suspect fraud attempts. For this it's very important that KYC must be processed and passed correctly. I have tried different ways of swapping crypto using Trezor Suite and this works well. I don't spend my funds to purchase something because these transactions are taxed so my idea is just collect BTC with small amounts because it's volatility has proven that it does not have sense to buy large amount as it's market value fluctuates too much. By the way currently I have paused buying crypto and BTC at all (I don't sell either). I just watch how my balance changes and later when I decide that it's time to buy again then I will continue to stack up BTC again.

Optimal_Jump_8395

Just tell them what your BTC bag is currently worth and they'll get it... Kind of... WTF?? 😆 🤣 😂

Icy_Dragonfruit__

Keep some gold instead of moving it all into BTC. No one really knows if this is the bottom or not and having both gives you some diversification instead of going all-in on one asset.

Johnaaayyyy

I wrote down a simple system for myself assuming BTC is above all time highs and above the 60 Week EMA, I have round tripped enough investing bags to hopefully learn my lesson xD. I will sell 1/100th of my allotted stack for this cycle trade every week. When it has a weekly close below the 60 Week EMA I dump the rest. Will allow me to DCA out without much head ache for up to 100 weeks if we get a crazy bull run and still exit at a reasonable point as well. Simple, but has performed well all previous markets.

THE_CRYPTOMEEL

Sittin at a cool .02 of BTC, wish I’d never sold or gotten liquidated in October 😅

RunItupBaby

Your buddy messed up his trades and got deeper than he could handle. I mean BTC just broke new highs not too long ago pushing $126k. It will test that again and push even higher. If your not trying to day trade it and just hold onto it, you will see gains

No-Librarian9605

Step 1: never price BTC in fiat Step 2: see step 1

IAmFitzRoy

Uh?. Thats not true. Why many talk like BTC have some fixed returns somewhere?

billybobbybrownbaby

QNT volume is insane. second only behind BTC on coinbase. Congrats all long term holders.

eflatviola

Did he even say buy his stock rather than BTC?

Key_Independent_818

Wtf are you talking about? You can directly choose the mining pool. Don't comment on something you have no idea about. Kryptex streamlines everything to make it an easier experience for people. You can join a particular pool for a coin and choose to convert it automatically to BTC or mine BTC yourself. How the F is it a scam. I cashout everything month and send it to my wallet.

Cold-Dragonfruit-868

Bticoin is really the only hope for the USA to get out of debt. No way it happens at 5% interest per year. They need a 5x on bitcoin value to make a dent in that debt. In the end you are right BTC is the only hope for fiscal sovereignty of the USA.

billybobbybrownbaby

it’s either enough money to where you won’t be able to cash the crypto out without some KYC (if you’re american) or it’s not so much in which case get it in BTC and buy some gift cards

eflatviola

He is a BTC advocate not mstr advocate

tenor_tymir

Thing is if you take that money now and buy BTC, it would most certainly yield a better return than mining on free electricity

No-Masterpiece2246

Putting money in MSTR instead of BTC undermines the investment thesis he is advancing. It centralizes supply in a counterparty. And increases confiscation risk 1000x. The government could seize billions worth of Bitcoin by simply forfeiting Strategy's entire stack. So it follows that when the time comes, Saylor must do what the government tells him to do.

Lavayo

BTC was lower when everyone expected cuts at the beginning of the year, now we got a hike and it rallied, another hike this year is broadly expected. After the fed meeting the narrative shifted why BTC would rally despite or even because of hikes. Nobody knows shit, except that BTC is a hard asset in a dying system.

coolgamerboi23

So I recently sold a few roblox items on the grey market, and now I need help cashing out. paypal requires my SSN, which I dont know and dont want to give, so that leaves 3 options, BTC, ERC20, and LTC, the latter 2 I've never even heard of. Idk if there even is a way, but I figured if anyone knew it, it'd be you guys

Good_Extension_9642

OP is a decade too late, it's a cutthroat business now, you're safer just buying BTC

Gehrman_JoinsTheHunt

In 2016, people would have said the same thing about a 60% CAGR prediction over the following 10 years. But it happened. The range I gave for the next 20 years was 15-20% average annual growth. 15% would result in roughly $1.5m per bitcoin. 20% would result in $3.3m per. 20 years is a long time. I'm not an irrational hyper-BTC person, but I do think either end of that spectrum is reasonable.

JAMGlobalStudio

One underrated use case is actually **using crypto as infrastructure rather than treating it like an investment**. For example, depending on where you live, it can be useful for sending money internationally, receiving payments without relying on traditional banking rails, interacting with decentralized applications, or holding/transferring assets directly without an intermediary. If you're interested in the broader technology/business side rather than just buying coins, I’d also check out this book: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HKY9JYBY](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HKY9JYBY) It’s not specifically a crypto book, but it covers AI systems, automation and digital business workflows, which IMO is where a lot of the interesting practical applications of decentralized tech can eventually connect. And yeah, I think your question is fair. If you're just buying BTC and staring at the chart, you're mostly treating it as an asset. The more interesting question is what problems the underlying infrastructure actually solves for you.

KeyBackRecovery

You've actually established something important here: the 18-word phrase appears to belong to the old [Blockchain.info](http://Blockchain.info) wallet, not the Mycelium wallet. Since you believe the BTC was transferred from [Blockchain.info](http://Blockchain.info) to Mycelium, I wouldn't spend too much time trying to turn those 18 words into a Mycelium seed. The two things you mentioned later are potentially much more interesting: the original HTC phone from 2014 and the 500GB disk image from the computer you were using at the time. I would preserve both exactly as they are before experimenting further. If the old phone still contains the original Mycelium installation/data, that may be much more useful than trying to reconstruct a seed phrase you may never have written down. The disk image is also worth preserving. Old wallet backups, exported keys, screenshots, notes, email archives, browser data or other wallet-related files may still exist there even if you don't remember creating them. Before modifying, updating or resetting the HTC, I'd first determine the exact phone model, Android version if possible, whether it boots, and whether the original Mycelium app/data is still present. And don't post any recovered seed words, private keys, wallet databases or backup files publicly. If you're still working on this, I'd start with the original HTC rather than the 18-word [Blockchain.info](http://Blockchain.info) recovery phrase.

byylu

Good question Merged mining solves network security problem. The same hardware mining Litecoin can simultaneously, with 0 extra electricity or hardware, secure any number of smaller chains on the same algorithm (Scrypt). This isn't theoretical, the AuxPoW protocol has supported it since 2011(?) (Namecoin has been merge-mining with Bitcoin ever since, with no changes to BTC's code), and today on Scrypt, LTC + DOGE + BELLS + PEP all do it at once. So: Bitcoin was technically capable of this from the start, all the merge-mining logic lives on the auxiliary chain's side, not the parent chain's. And yes, in theory you could merge-mine a "ton of tokens" at once, the protocol allows it. In practice, the bottleneck isn't cryptography, it's pool software (has to handle x different chains) and economics (each additional token is marginal benefit for the miner). But here's also a part merged mining doesn't solve: it secures the network against attacks, but says nothing about how fairly the coin launched.... Creator can premine or instamine, meaning allocate themselves a big chunk of supply before or right after launch, and then still plug in merge mining later to look "secure" and legitimate. Hashrate defends against rewriting block history, not against dishonest distribution at launch. Those are two completely separate things, and both need to be checked independently. That's why, for any merge mined coin, I look at two things: who's securing the network, and who actually holds the coins. Pepecoin checks both boxes: 100% of supply mined publicly from block one, no premine, no ICO, and merge mining was added only after the fair launch, not as a way to disguise one.

Budget-Aardvark-7860

the only one sounding delusional is you, when tf does someone trust Fidelity on the matters of BTC, i think i’ll trust the people that have been in the space a decade + and if they are skeptical so am I, time will tell who was right

AmazingfurnitureCT

DCA BTC for the rest of your life and Chill. Time is on your side

account009988

AI has no effect on BTC mining so what are you asking?

Budget-Aardvark-7860

All i’m seeing is ppl that think they are geniuses because they bought at 75k, and calling everyone that challenges their thesis about up only “sidelined”, idk about yall but id rather not be with the herd on this one, its crazy people are calling a bull market when BTC hasn’t even tested its prior support to hold, ive seen this story before, retails stays getting dumped on smh

Patrick_Atsushi

I personally prefer a relatively steady growth over constant +-10% fluctuations. The long term gain in BTC is better than stocks so here I am.

pubic_discourse

Very good counterpoint, but real estate has a lot of transaction costs, carrying cost and idiosyncratic risks like location and build and whatnot. You’re absolutely right, other real estate stands to gain a large % of the capital, and other hard assets too, but Bitcoin has a lot of great properties for people who come to this epiphany: liquidity, ubiquity, sovereignty etc. I think the thesis is sound even if BTC is only a tiny fraction of where this capital moves frankly

quintavious_danilo

Yes. BTC going to zero is very very unlikely.

Torshein

Dollar cost average. Set it, forget it. Only convert the USD you don't need in the next few years to BTC.

Confident_Ground_775

Not true. When you convert BTC into USDC it is a taxable event.

Zealousideal-Ad7773

Do the opposite of Youtube thumbnails. Everyone was bearish and we got up. Now everyone is calling BTC at ATH, we will probably correct.

88eth

Should be fine I have sent 50 BTC to the wrong address before, its always been returned. One time I sent the $250m payment for my superyacht by mistake 18 times and they refunded it also (browser was bugged and reloading the page would re-send the transaction). You are lucky its only 50 ETH, ETH is literally still worthless and not worth anything more than the $0.25 i paid for them back in the day.

JakobBowser

No guarantees for another alt season, I'd stick with BTC and maybe a little eth

RobOTx63

Reads like OP asked AI to write a story about losing BTC with X, then decided to post across multiple subs.

LetsLearnYouZhongWen

My brother in Christ, you are questioning BTC while blindly throwing money at other crap. 

username12435687

That's still 2.5k worth of BTC.. and at its highest closer to 5k in BTC. I'd be pissed too

Backrus

Performance this year vs benchmarks (BTC and MSTR); performance since we started bull on August 24 (close above weekly ema50), whales' positioning, ETFs flows, and narrative simple enough that even average redditor can understand it (ZEC is privacy, although honeypot lol, but number goes up, but just use Monero, HYPE is basically better CBOE/RH, although for options there's DRV, LIT is the same so it's diversification, NEAR has been he best out of AI plays). Then again, alts shouldn't be more than 5% of your overall stock portfolio. Disclaimer: I've had those since 2025, so my cost basis is infinitely small. Still, every cycle worked like that - early winners just kept running and winning even more.

Efficient_Range1156

0.0289 BTC?

hoppeeness

Yes. Skipped. Too many old school cryptos here to admit it though. Small cap alts are way out performing BTC and ETH and even SOL a little Great example in DOVU. Actually moved from ETH to HBAR…real tech for real use cases. https://np.reddit.com/r/Hedera/s/dTzrZIvOVg

Alfador8

Night and day is a fair comparison. They're very different assets. Bitcoin is a single, notoriously volatile asset, whereas SPY is meant to be a relatively nonvolatile basket is exposure to many large companies in a variety of industries. That being said, they share the characteristic of being a hedge against monetary inflation/debasement. The debasement narrative has been picking up steam for the last 3 months, and during that time BTC is up 40% and SPY is up 4%

Backrus

Honestly, no point for quite some time. First of all, there's no such thing as "investing" in crypto - to invest in something, it has to have fundamental value. Tokens created in 15s (yes, it takes that long) don't have any fundamental value. You can argue BTC has some, but still, you're gambling on price appreciation without any logical reason. When IBIT options launched, BTC lost its ability to generate upside volatility (in January GVZ flipped BVIV, and BVIV chart alone is just sad). Without that, it's just another stock with market like returns and much bigger downside risk. So it's hard to find honest argument to have it in your portofolio on a risk-adjusted basis. Then again, if you have to hold something, do it with BTC - there are periods when it decorrelates from stocks (but over last 3 years it decorrelated from the upside lol). Since COVID dump / post 2021, stocks have better volatility, and better risk-adjusted returns (BTC has been the worst performing asset in the world on an absolute and risk-adjusted basis since IBIT options launched on November 19, 2024; although it might change with the start of new bull market on August 24). Not to mention all the investor protections in the world. If you still wanna gamba, this cycle has already decided its winners: HYPE, LIT, ZEC, NEAR.

MAGICAlenceria

No lo haga Bro. La estrategia correcta es el Precio de Compra Promedio, entre 12 y 18 meses posteriores al ATH, ya van 12 meses. Te recomiendo aprender sobre el Ciclo Mundial de Futbol Soccer/BTC Requeriría mucha explicación pero el precio correcto para este ciclo de 2026-2029 es debajo de 75K, si eres bueno de 65K a 75K. Y calculamos que llegará de 210K a 230K, 20% de probabilidades a 250K.

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Feralz2

SPY made a new ATH, and BTC made a new low the last 3 months lol literally night and day

Odd_Sud

If BTC manages to close today above 83k we can new highs

Top_Psychology276

I keep my actual BTC stack mentally separate from anything short term cold storage is one thing and trading is another Moon sits more on that second side for me so I dont start treating every little move like a reason to touch the long term bag

Happy_Somewhere_2751

BTC chop is where I start doing dumb stuff if I stare too long been bouncing between the chart and Moon around these levels but theres still no reason to force anything until the range actually gives

Feralz2

S&P has been outperforming BTC, are you ok

Riker-Was-Here

> Dedicated OS (avoid Linux with telemetry) in a USB. Clean and only used for banking and BTC. Can you speak more about what OS is good and why linux is bad. (Was thinking of getting linux)

Inevitable_Yam1513

bit of both. I have an economic calendar bookmarked and if i see something big coming, i 'll cut my leverage down beforehand. learned that the hard way last year lol. I keep most of my BTC on bydfi with alerts set so I'm not glued to the screen all day. honestly the best thing I did was stop trying to predict every move and just manage risk around the dates that matter

eggchickenf

So by that analogy 1 BTC = 1 BTC and 10 BTC = 10 BTC , funny 🤣

sayqm

Drop xrp. Get BTC, profit

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cryptosystemtrader

So you wanted me to say 'blackrock customers are buying'? Fine - but I chose to phrase it in a more succinct way so that we can focus on the matter at hand, which is retail sentiment. Besides, Blackrock does not represent small retail clients, they service public/corp pension funds, insurance companies, and of course private capital. So whales. I could have mentioned all that but it was easier to say 'Blackrock just loaded up on BTC' ;-)