BTC

Breotan

Precious metals rocketing to the moon while BTC languishes. Something is broken, but it ain't the BTC cycle.

xaviemb

I like to flip this argument on its head and instead state "Save in BTC" ... it's the best store of your energy and time humans have ever known. You don't "spend" your house... you also don't "spend" your retirement... until you get to the place of security. Similarly, you should not "spend" your BTC until you're financially secure. Or else you're stealing from your future. I can see a need to spend BTC if all you ever did was save and you needed to live... but if your goal is to be wealthier in the future, for the love of God don't spend your BTC... or else you're just a hamster on a wheel. Spend the other 90%... save 10% ... protect your future. If everyone did this with BTC the world would be a better more prosperous place.

Flat_Development6659

Ah yes, rather than spending my money on a coffee, I will convert that money into BTC with a fee/spread and then I will spend the BTC. Makes complete sense.

tacocat_-_racecar

I used to use BTC as a p2p payment. If I’d known what I know now I would used it as an investment. Definitely wouldn’t be where I am now. Everything happens for a reason

Sundance37

This is the question. I had no idea Home Depot accepted BTC.

nb4u

No market place I've seen is trading in Nano. It's BTC or XMR and BTC isn't private and has higher transactional fees. It's a no brainer.

Cryptomuscom

Spend the debt (USD), save the equity (BTC). Simple math.

-5H4Z4M-

>What would happen if you paid in BTC instead? In many countries, it creates a tax event that you have to declare at each transaction.

kzt79

How exactly do you spend BTC at Subway, Starbucks etc? Not that I would actually do so, but I’m just curious. Damn sure not signing up to any other platform etc

erjo5055

Currency went down, BTC didn't go up

user_name_checks_out

> But then they go to spend USD at Home Depot, AMC, Whole Foods, Subway, and Starbucks. All of these places accept BTC as payment. Do any of those places accept Lightning? Because I am not signing up for any kind of custodied, KYCed platform.

biba8163

> Paper Hands If the guys that no longer want to be scammed by Meme Tech Shitcoins with predatory tokenomics that devs and insiders dump for free money are paper hand idiots? What does it make the morons who continue to hold and get scammed? **Top 10 from 8 Years Ago Today* Crypto | Price Change | Δ Supply | Cap++ | Shitcoin++ | |:--------|--------------:|---------------------:|------------------------:|-------------------:| | BTC | ⬆️ +539.66% | +18.89% | --- | --- | | ETH | ⬆️ +123.99% | +24.48% | --- | --- | | XRP | ⬆️ +1.77% | +56.69% | --- | --- | | BCH | 🔻 -77.31% | +18.15% | --- | --- | | ADA | 🔻 -55.71% | +38.69% | --- | --- | | LTC | 🔻 -70.55% | +35.25% | --- | --- | | NEM | 🔻 -99.93% | +0.00% | --- | ✅ | | XLM | 🔻 -66.73% | +81.18% | --- | --- | | IOTA | 🔻 -97.71% | +52.42% | ✅ | ✅ | | EOS | 🔻 -98.95% | +256.53% | --- | --- | **Δ Supply* - Change in Circulating Supply **Cap++* - Increase in Capped Supply **Shitcoin++* - New Shitcoin Tokens launched for the project https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180113/ /r/cc 8 years ago falling for tech memes and thinking crypto coins were like tech companies. > - In 20 years Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet. > - In 2017 alone, Ethereum, Iota, Ripple, Vertcoin, Monero and Litecoin have all made big moves in terms of tech and adoption. What will 2018 bring? 2019? Will Bitcoin still lumber into 2020? > - Lol—try 3-5 years. > - I think 20 months tops > - 20 yrs? Think 2. > - It' ll happen sooner. The world turns faster constantly. Bitcoin is like a fat, slow dinosaur > - Agreed. Could be months. The space is wide open for competition. Could def see ETH and BCH taking the crown. > - Someday people will think that it'd ridiculous to pay fees and wait time to transfer money and they will buy IOTA > - Companies will not bet on a burning piece of garbage like Bitcoin, and whatever they pick will win. I guarantee it. See: Bosch/IOTA. > - Hmm your comment has made me think of possibly splitting my portfolio four ways - ETH, IOTA, XRP, REQ. > - The sad fact is there are coins from 4 years ago that are better than Bitcoin, we don't even need new projects to take leaps forward. > - Tl;dr I think your bitcoins are going to be about as valuable as your 20 hours of free internet CDs from AOL https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7kval4/in_20_years_bitcoin_will_be_to_crypto_what_aol_is/

GreemBeam

I mean it kinda does. Very difficult to buy currencies such as USD in that country. Anyone with an Internet connection can acquire BTC and send it anywhere / trade it for anything.

aaj094

What, according to you, is manipulated about BTC? That it doesn't keep going higher all the time and ensure all are always over cost basis? Lmao.

Aerocryptic

It has qualities for being a store of value, better than Gold even. But reaching that status takes decades even centuries. There's a trust that needs to be built and it takes time. You seem to focus too much on narratives that the cryptobros like to repeat to each others. The fact that you're disappointed won't stop BTC to keep on growing. How much time it will take before the next ATH remains to be seen. But if you lack so much confidence about it maybe you should just sell your coins and move on instead of whining here

Late-Cry-5665

And once critical mass in bitcoin adoption is reached there is no stopping BTC

Jessyy97

The whole market is a joke, including the more and more heavily manipulated BTC...

Conscious-Opposite88

BTC MIL IN 2040 is impossible!⭐ Sorry

Gangaman666

What the fuck has this got to do with BTC, take your trash propaganda somewhere else. I came here to read about BTC not some low karma bot shite.

Conscious-Opposite88

Missing: (ME) When BTC Hits 1M$ in 2040⭐👍

Mou_chaine

When the chart goes vertical in local currency, it says more about the currency than about Bitcoin. This is exactly why BTC exists.

Certain-Stranger3561

Just to add another real experience here: I used Ledger Live for a BTC swap in December 2023. Changelly was the only available provider at the time. My funds were frozen immediately for “compliance review”. I fully cooperated and submitted all requested documents. More than a year later, the funds are still frozen with no ETA, no decision, and no responses. Ledger says they are only an interface and cannot intervene. Posting this so others are aware this risk exists.

Protocol_Man123

I have become 90% BTC maxi. May become 100% soon.

Altruistic-Raise-579

Pretty significant move seeing 21Shares get both a Bitcoin and gold ETP onto the LSE. The BTC side isn’t just another product ticking a box, it’s one of the tighter regulated gateways in a major European market and gives a chunk of institutional capital a vehicle that can settle in GBP without going through OTC swaps or trust receipts. The gold ETP launch in the same breath also tells you how these firms are trying to bundle credibility with diversification narratives. I’ve been logging institutional flows into these regulated ETPs versus the OTC desk demand for years now because once you watch how flows cluster around launch windows and rebalancing events, it starts to tell a story investors normally miss. Curious how this one performs when macro volatility spikes next quarter.

TechnologyMinute2714

Doesn't Strategy hold their BTC under Coinbase custody or sth?

Altruistic-Raise-579

Every time there’s a macro headline tied to a clean round number, price does this little fake out dance. Feels less about the tariff itself and more about how crowded the $92k expectation got. When everyone’s watching the same level, it almost never behaves politely. I’ve stopped trying to guess direction off the news and just keep a rough log of how BTC reacts in the first few hours after these announcements, especially volume and who blinks first. The pattern is weirdly consistent once you stop reading the narratives. Curious if this chops for a bit or if people panic sell the headline again tomorrow.

Altruistic-Raise-579

The BTC lock part is the only thing here that really matters to me. Papers and postmortems are fine but real money sitting there quietly untouched says more than most audits. What stood out wasn’t that TEEs can be hardened, but that Oasis didn’t pretend TEE alone was magic and built around the assumption that something will break eventually. I’ve seen enough systems fail at the edges that I tend to keep a running log of what actually survives contact with incentives versus what just sounds good on docs. This one’s interesting because the incentive was loud and still nothing moved. Makes you wonder which other privacy stacks would even dare to run the same test.

CyberCrud

Garbage prediction.  How well did ETH do when BTC hit $126k?  It slept.  It barely cracked it's own previous ATH.  If BTC hits $1M, which is unlikely until the mid 2030s at best, ETH might hit 5 figures.  

ReservedXM

Maybe OP trying to say he transferred all of his brokerage funds into BTC??

d8_thc

This is such FUD. Do you know how little levered MSTR is? Do you know how long and profound a BTC drawdown would have to be for MSTR to be in any sort of danger? Do you understand there aren't 'margin calls' for MSTR that would require forced selling?

DryMyBottom

with BTC you only lose money if you lose your patience

Captain_Planet

It doesn't. All it means is a nation of people who have suffered for decades now face even mroe pain and hardship, even death. But yeah, terribly sorry you couldn't get more BTC.

Turbulent_County_469

well, at least i have some BTC to cheer me up

Great-Towel-6275

At a family dinner at home in November; I told my family that BTC is the best investment, that Starlink has super strong internet signals, and that I like silver or gold jewelry. (Mental translation: a crypto miner, internet anywhere, or some silver or gold jewelry as a future investment. I said it hoping they’d get me something useful.) They laughed at me. Called me an idiot. I’m the only “tech person” in the family. Christmas plot twist 🎄 Santa brought me: 🧢 A tin foil hat (€15 + €29.60 shipping) 📶 A WiFi extender that does absolutely nothing (€10–12) 🦈 Shark slippers for around the house (priceless, can’t deny that) 🍫 A box of Ferrero Rocher. (I guess the wrapper was the “gold” I mentioned.) Santa even left a note inside the tin foil hat saying I’m brainwashed and that I need to wear it throughout 2026. But I still think the same: They should’ve bought crypto instead.

Jessyy97

Let's get this shit over with. A quick decline to 70k then a slow climb to ATH 200k/BTC!

Jessyy97

Do you think XMR could be a worthy investment right now or before the next bull (I'm bearish for BTC atm)? Regarding all the upcoming regulations and stuff...

SevereArrivals13

Wanted to get more BTC and BNB Moons are the best moonshot out there by far but there is always huge risk when buying low cap coins

Charlie-boy1

It looks lil you got the picture of this sub. But also be prepared when BTC goes up and becomes news again, people will flock to you and say why didn’t you try harder to convince me or why didn’t I listen. 😂

mngos_wmelon1019

Too bad it’s been corrupted by the big dogs already. BTC was supposed to be for the little guy and no we’re in the same shit show together.

elixon

I don't expect equal distribution, but such imbalance is stunning (and still growing) and is potentially threatening to wider adoption. That is all. I am just thinking about the future: what may happen, how people will react to it, and what it will mean for the blockchain system. Normal analysis. No politics, no feelings. I actually find it very interesting - what is being demonstrated with BTC. Thanks to its relative transparency, this is something every sociologist should study, because I believe that similar things are also happening in the fiat world, but we don't have access to see it.

Red-Oak-Tree

so you buy it on an exchange, transfer it to cold waller (tracking stops) then you change it to whatever you want without fear of taxes then at some point, you will sell your private BTC and reconcile taxes then?

SevereArrivals13

Range trading BTC with quantity 83k to 93k brought in some money in the past 2 months. Quite solid and no big downside if you plan to hold for the future anyway if it dips. Stacked a couple BNB and almost 100k Moons with the recent gains.

Red-Oak-Tree

Converging towards BTC Not there yet as still hold 3 ALTs but used to have about 20+ alts BTC, ETH, XRP, CRO CRO will be rotated into BTC at some point. ETH and XRP could remain long term.

Lost_Box_5926

That was proven to be false, as you said said they never had over half of the network's hash, of course it is still a threat but literally the more people that know about Monero and contribute to the network's hash the less one singular pool can be a threat. If this were a thing with BTC it would be a problem since the entry level to BTC mining is thousands of dollars for some good ASICS. In comparison to Monero, which is ASIC-resistant and anyone with a PC can actually contribute to the network making decentralization much more realistic.

Sulth

BTC massive CRASH today! Went from 92400 to 91900! BTC is dead

Zestyclose-Echo838

BTC is at over 90k, what the hell are you doing??

Johan_Laracoding

Those books may be awesome and your mind may be progressive and open. I can respect that, and there is a decent possibility it will serve you well. But consider this too. The market decides what's going to happen, not a well written book full of fiat critique. BTC is still a very risky investment. Society today runs on fiat. Crypto is divided into many coins and overall adoption is brittle and slow af. Maybe your people aren't missing out as much as you think.

biba8163

**Top 10 from June 2017 ranked by performance (When Crypto became big caps and Flippening narrative) to Today* | Crypto | Price Change | |--------|--------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3,637% | | XMR | ⬆️ +1,358% | | ETH | ⬆️ +765% | XRP | ⬆️ +694% | | LTC | ⬆️ +151% | | ZEC | ⬆️ +5% | | ETC | 🔻 -31% | | DASH |🔻 -61% | | IOTA |🔻 -80% | NEM | 🔻 -99% |

biba8163

> betting on ETH for too long ETH appears to be a big outperformer but it's an underperformer long term that only performs after a massive drop (-92% from ~$1400 to ~$80, $4,000 to $1500 last year, etc) **Top 10 from June 2017 ranked by performance (When Crypto became big caps and Flippening narrative) to Today* | Crypto | Price Change | |--------|--------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3,637% | | XMR | ⬆️ +1,358% | | ETH | ⬆️ +765% | XRP | ⬆️ +694% | | LTC | ⬆️ +151% | | ZEC | ⬆️ +5% | | ETC | 🔻 -31% | | DASH |🔻 -61% | | IOTA |🔻 -80% | NEM | 🔻 -99% |

biba8163

> ~80% btc/eth ETH appears to be a big outperformer but it's an underperformer long term that only performs after a massive drop (-92% from ~$1400 to ~$80, $4,000 to $1500 last year, etc) **Top 10 from June 2017 ranked by performance (When Crypto became big caps and Flippening narrative) to Today* | Crypto | Price Change | |--------|--------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3,637% | | XMR | ⬆️ +1,358% | | ETH | ⬆️ +765% | XRP | ⬆️ +694% | | LTC | ⬆️ +151% | | ZEC | ⬆️ +5% | | ETC | 🔻 -31% | | DASH |🔻 -61% | | IOTA |🔻 -80% | NEM | 🔻 -99% |

Doji_Star72

BTC will come around again eventually, but as i said, only by value of collective delusion. As a useful technology, it is obsolete and inferior. It's trending below a death cross right now... so from a technical analysis perspective, it's likely going to be a while.

jozhn2997

4 year cycle is still in play. Based on past years’ extrapolations, BTC will probably drop to around 50k near the end of 2026. Save this message and let me know if I am right in a year’s time? So be cautious.. 😉

One-Monkey-Army

Idkw but is this reminded me that Tesla sold 75% of their BTC in 2022 when prices were around 20k…and I still find it funny

satoshinotnakamoto

Nobody can predict the future, but just for fun, I don’t think 2035 is unrealistic. The idea is that Bitcoin’s link with tech stocks will slowly disappear, maybe after a big crisis (the dollar, AI, who knows). Bitcoin could become a real reserve asset, thanks to both its price and its technology, with partial or total separation from stock markets. If Bitcoin gets closer to gold’s market value, which keeps rising, then $10M per BTC by 2045–2050 seems possible.

ZealousidealIncrease

This thread is a perfect reminder of how early we still are. Most comments are comparing these options like it’s a math problem, but they’re completely missing *what Bitcoin actually represents*. People see volatility and think “risk,” but ignore monetary debasement, counterparty risk, and the fact that fiat guarantees loss of purchasing power over time. $10M feels safe because it’s familiar. $10k a week feels comfortable because it’s predictable. 200 BTC feels scary because it forces you to think long-term and outside the system. History shows that the hardest asset to hold is usually the one that ends up winning not because it’s smooth, but because it rewires how value is stored and transferred. Every cycle, people say “too late” while still not understanding *why it exists* in the first place. Most won’t choose Bitcoin and that’s exactly why the upside exists. We’re not early because of price. We’re early because of mindset.

Turbulent_County_469

Blue pill to get new kids ... 🙈.. and another wife... and buy more BTC Can't recommend getting two ADHD kids with a crazy woman.. I love my kids though.. but life could have been simpler.

Utopian-Mind

Fiat Currency is a commodity. I bought commodity a lot of times with BTC

flying-fox200

BitcoinII (BC2, not BTC2). It's literally "Bitcoin, re-launched". It's almost a 1:1 replication of Bitcoin, but re-launched about 7 months ago. The developer created it as a "second chance at Bitcoin", to give people a taste of what it might have been like around 2009-2012 for Bitcoin. It's meant to be a sister chain - not a competitor. Here's the [code](https://github.com/Bitcoin-II). You can swap any crypto for it on [nonkyc.io](https://nonkyc.io/).

Seattleman1955

I think the market will mature about 2035 with BTC at $500k. Dollar debasement will eventually cause any asset to reach any price denominated in dollars and in this case I'd say that should happen around 2045.

Any_Ice1084

BTC stalling under 92k while privacy coins pop feels less like weakness and more like rotation. Capital is clearly hunting narratives again: privacy on one side, AI-linked miners on the other. Unless BTC loses key support, this looks like consolidation, not distribution.

Sea-Development-8046

A long, long time ago I bought a pizza for 10k BTC.

Gate9Psychopath

Dude stop trying this shit. I did it too and no one listens except maybe 1 person. You what though? At the ens of the day better for me, more money for me, more BTC for me, less awakened people and still more sheep. Let them stay asleep, this makes my come up and yours easier. 👌🏽

MemeyOreos

honestly this is pretty solid for mainstream adoption. gold bugs can dip their toes into BTC without fully committing and vice versa. LSE listing gives it that legitimacy traditional finance people need before they touch anything crypto related. fees gonna be the real deciding factor tho

xanokothe

92k BTC aaaaahhh its gone

Benzo_Head

Even BTC/Gold is a great chart to look at (not looking great right now)

Benzo_Head

Are you looking at BTC/Turkish Lira because my BTC/EUR chart shows that it’s down -30% from its all time high

yoyodark

I believed in BTC before John McAfee spoke so openly about it. Not a fan of John at all. He was a murderer and a complete nutcase. It wasn't a good look for BTC to have him as a spokesman. With that said, may God rest his soul.

Mekka_Siekka

This is so shitty and karma farming. At this point this subreddit is just an echo chamber for folks trying to convince them that no matter what we are win win win. It's OK, but some arguments and plots are just pure retardium. POS: 0.66 BTC.

elixon

I understand that. But I wish we could use BTC for payments - e.g. not long-term speculation only.

elixon

1. You can barely buy anything with BTC. 2. Just 80 addresses control over 10% of all bitcoins. 3. It is now an asset used almost exclusively for speculation, and nothing else. I would not call it a scam - I have never called it a scam. It is a very transparent unregulated market for speculators where small investors are greatly disadvantaged. That's it.

MajorFantastic9498

Bruh if someone's offering you $1000 worth of BTC for $250 that's not a scam, that's just straight up robbery with extra steps

Tuny

Tether is obligated due to the use of USD. BTC would've prevented this

OregonBroncoNix

Been into ONLY BTC since 2021. I have purchased my home with cash (500k+), paid off two cars (5 series BMW and Subaru Outback) and retired at 51 two years ago. I take profits every 3 to 6 months on average. Taxes friggin suck, but I still am heavily invested BTC. This is a patience game and I am being 100% honest. I look at the price maybe once a month or two.

Bobster_O

Still feels crazy to be that BTC (most of the world still has yet to own) is already no.8 largest asset in the world. I guess prices are programmed to go up right huh

dweeegs

Nah, most of the money comes from straight up issuing MSTR stock at the market. A smaller percentage comes from issues the STR* products, mainly STRC. He isn’t using BTC as collateral It’s in their 8-K they file every time they do this https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltf8d808d9b8cebd37/blta7da64f7ebf6312a/69645ea3818dc30008b31ebb/form-8-k_01-12-2026.pdf

dweeegs

He’ll keep shitting shares out until the company is worth way less than the BTC they hold and then they’ll get bought it. That’s the nice thing about the commons, the shareholders get dumped on and there’s no repayment No idea why you would think there’s going to be a giant implosion. The company might suffer but he won’t have to dump. He’s issues how many tens of billions of shares and he’ll keep doing it while the shareholders left say thank you

Bobster_O

When you're pessimistic, see the adoption rate for BTC in the past decade!

quintavious_danilo

If i only had a dollar for every dead BTC cycle i’d be rich

Efficient-Writer-906

If someone had over $20,000 in BTC would it make sense to sell some for at a loss and put a portion of that money into STRC and buy back into BTC with the monthly dividends?… asking for a cousin.

cheeseitmeatbags

It's $150 BTC equivalent per year. Has a few quirks since it's kinda shady and a low budget company out of India and you gotta use certain hardware like a firestick. Only use this website, there are fakes if you google for it. A VPN is highly recommended. It gives you ALL the channels worldwide, movies and streaming. PITA to set up, but worth it IMO. https://apollogroup.tv/

graytleapforward

FTX was an absolute gift to me. Bought BTC near the panic lows and sold half of it near the recent ATH. Couldn't care less if my shit coins are worthless now, they'll be handy tax write offs.

ReplacementBig7068

I bought a couple of pizzas back in 2010… cost me 10,000 BTC 😱

Quirky-Reveal-1669

Financed a house renovation/upgrade and extension project with it in ~2018. I am still not quite back at the amount of BTC I once had. 🤦‍♂️😬

ninjaheartbeat

I bought bitcoin when it was $1500 in May of 2017. 3 coins to be precise. I sold one coin at $25k as a way to hedge my bets if it all came crashing down the next day. Dumb move. I never forgot selling that coin and when it began to rise after $25k (along with some dips) I kept purchasing little by little for the next 5 years until I clawed my way back and got the coin I sold. I’m now at 3.35 coins and have no intention to ever sell at least not for the next 20 years. Patience and knowledge. Patience because it takes time for an asset to mature and grow. Like a lot of time. Knowledge because people still don’t get the fact that in order for BTC to thrive it needs infrastructure. It’s going to happen. In the future you’ll use BTC to purchase food at McDonalds, buy movie tickets, buy a car and whatever else you want to do.

Bitcoin-Revolution

I stopped trying to convince people too. It’s like fishing — if you hold the worm between your fingers, the fish feels the tension. You need an invisible line and a hidden hook. You don’t chase the fish. You let them come to you and ask the question. People don’t care about arguments. They get curious when they see someone calm and optimistic about the future of finance, especially when that calm comes from BTC.

Clean_Difficulty_225

People holding BTC, etc., take note.

Emergency-Warthog-56

What spread price and fee were you charged because at current prices, you should have received around 0.0011 BTC

WrathofTitus

If it wasn't for stable coin farming and BTC, 2025 would have ended in the red for me.

Azoth424

It appears likebit shoukd have been 2 seperate fhings as u see the color change on the top path from green to the bottom left where its the gold/yellow color. So yes, sloppy, but I can understand what it was intended to show. One side is just showing he sent the 10 BTC that LED to the other path whwre the price grid is and the dates like 2017 etc show the prices in those respective years. The top path way of the sending of 10 btc needs to not be a pathway. Just a statement. Or it is aligned with the bottom pathway, not seperate.

flying-fox200

Congrats!! Don't forget to move it to a wallet you control once you reach ~0.01 BTC. BlueWallet on iOS/Android is good for starting out. For significant sums, get a [hardware wallet](https://trezor.io/).

Sin-City-Sinner

Ok yea you’re right but we are only a couple weeks in. I started a year ago and I’ve seen BTC pump from 70k-124k (lucky me!) I took profit right off the very top (again, lucky me!) and IMO it will go to the moon, it’s just a matter of time so just stack and hodl. And yes I’m only in the market a year but that year was dedicated to learning crypto, I spent the last year 7 days a week and anywhere from 8-16hrs a day so I’m not exactly new, but for arguments sake I technically am..

asherlevi

January ‘25 to January ‘26, BTC down almost 4%. Compare to the S&P being up 20% during the same period. So, at year end, folks looked at their portfolio and said ‘let me get out of this position’. This is a post about ETF liquidity, and that’s why ETFs holders are dumping right now, it’s not been a good investment over the last 12 months.

Rare_Rich6713

For me it eventually came down to time horizon. If I’m holding BTC long term anyway, I felt okay exploring staking as long as it didn’t involve custody, wrapping, or bridges. That’s why I ended up trying Babylon. Not saying it’s for everyone, just fit how I already think about holding BTC.

SettingFriendly4339

It’s not wrong, it’s just concentrated. If you believe in BTC long term and big swings won’t mess with your head, that’s really the test. Most mistakes come from emotions, not the asset. It all comes down to whether your conviction holds during drawdowns.

macetheface

4 year cycle happened to be 4 year cycle because the overall economy was doing well at the top and not well at the bottom. This is evidenced by [ISM/PMI](https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/ECONOMICS-USBCOI/). Anything under 50 and economy is not well; been in decline since August. I believe BTC and most other risk on assets will follow this. There is some cyclic nature to all markets with the presidential elections; perhaps some of the halvening stuff initially but not anymore. To get things going again with crypto, we'll need a serious jolt to the economy and start seeing quite an uptrend past 50. The neat thing though is even though it's essentially ranged since 2023, BTC still managed to put in an ATH. I think if ISM/ PMI had gotten to ~60, we would have seen over 200k end of last year.

dunksbx

What reason would the cycle have to be continuous? None. Have fun waiting for that dip until youre paying double for your BTC.

North_Difference328

Interesting I thought the entire point of BTC was to be outside.gov control. You're proving my point that it shouldn't have been an ETF and is papered

NOneHOne

Yeah, I stopped trying 3 years ago when BTC dropped to like 17k. Told everyone that now is the time to buy, etc... Most people didn't listen and then came to me when it hit 100k. Told them again to buy when the bear market started and it dropped below 100k. Not sure if anyone is listening. Not my problem... lol

riscten

Absolute slop lol. Why is the initial value at the lower left corner, and then Satoshi sends 10BTC to Hal at... the end of the timeline? Is Satoshi sending Bitcoin to Hal in the future? 🤣 And what's with the nonsensical dates in the calendar? Why is the initial transaction somehow connected to 2017? Why is the value graphic completely off the real price? And why does it also stop at 2017? For the record, I love AI, I just hate slop. Either clean your stuff in Photoshop or get better at prompting. This is an absolute mess.

yoyodark

DCA every week or month, even if it's $100. Take a pass on that fancy coffee or going out to eat a couple times a month and use it towards increasing your Sats. Every little bit counts. 0.0005 BTC is better than NO BTC!