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Nervous_Shape_7469

I bought ~ 90% of my BTC in October 2023 when it was at ~ $36k / BTC but NO ONE knows when the "floor" will be ,not even you 😭 But as I mentioned above , most that have held for min of 5 years,is in profit . Now that doesn't mean it'll work out like that for you but the odds of holding 5 years or longer,you'll be in profit. If ya can't do that and are too scared then just invest in S&P and avg ~ 7-9 % APR ... factoring in inflation. Lol 😆

ReggieCorneus

Your line of arguments has run its course long time ago. Your only thruline has been "it is so small of a problem that we don't need to do anything" when EVERYONE ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT E-WASTE IN GENERAL and how our devices are not designed so that we cuold re-use parts and have made recycling more difficult. Your whole point was moot from the fucking start and you are the ONLY ONE who has not realized it. That by definition, is sign of having below average intelligence. Is that so, i don't know but that is at the moment what you are doing. Everyone else is discussing about the WHOLE and you came in and started talking about ONE thing... and even then it makes no fucking sense. "There are lot of holes in this ship so THIS ONE DOES NOT NEED PLUGGING". You haven't even talked in favor of plugging holes, which at least is somewhat logical. It is "always a bigger fish" fallacy but it has some logic but dude... You have argued against plugging holes so far, how do you think you are the one dominating this? And the value of bitcoin is very debatable, my honest opinion is that it is a net negative, waste of money and resources. Burning trees to make money is stupid.

TheresNoSecondBest

Short answer is, yes if the network can survive until 2140, it can survive on fees alone after 2140. Four years before that, the miners will receive the transaction fees + one single satoshi as a block subsidy. Do you think getting ONE SINGLE SATOSHI will make the difference that will break camel's back? I mean, the miners "lost" 312,500,000 every ten minutes in the last halving. Why are they still here? This 312,500,000 sats the miners "lost" every 10 minutes if we compare it to the rewards four years ago is incredibly massive if you look at it from 2140 (that's when all 21 million coin will be mined) perspective. All miners in the world will work for about 40 years to earn 2.15 BTC or 215,000,000. I mean, why waiting until 2140 if they can leave in 2100. Why sticking around right now if they earn 50% of what they got four years ago?

AlpineGuy

The whole point was never to be your own bank but to have an electronic cash system without a central authority and no double-spend. So basically properties of cash, just online. The basic idea still works: Create a wallet on your computer and you can receive + spend the coins. The problem is cybersecurity really. There are so many vectors to attack this through software, hardware, networks, etc. And the problem with cybersecurity is that in the de-centralized world the security relies on a few unpaid volunteers and underpaid researchers while the attackers have the incentive of potentially becoming millionaires. Centralized providers can have highly paid security experts around the clock and bug bounties. > If you could fix ONE thing about crypto to make ordinary people actually comfortable using it, what would it be? The whole user interface would need to become a lot more simpler. No more 26 character addresses. No more fake transactions. Automatic filtering of spam. A central authority that keeps track of spam/scam/fraud/crime addresses and filters them out (though that's a danger for neutrality, of course). So basically identities that cannot be faked. It needs to be absolutely clear who the money is going to.

nada_sagrado

Exactly why would you IMPORT ANYTHING if you are supposedly creating a NEW ONE?

ATP_generator

the thing about price predictions is that NO ONE KNOWS if it's going up or down and anyone who thinks they can predict the price is even more clueless. the only question should be: will BTC have a smaller OR larger place in society in 10 years / whatever your investing timeline is.

Keith_Shadis69

So many of you guys miss the point of power law it’s actually hilarious. There is quite literally ONE band that matters. And it’s the bottom one. It hasn’t broken yet so for the time being it’s a relatively GOOD indicator of the current and future floor.

Hypersonic10

I'm happy for you. TELL NO ONE!!

Opti_Dude_

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Chl0r0PHIL

You'll NEVER believe this ONE SIMPLE TRICK!

TexasBoyz-713

ONE to $1!!!

Argyrus777

And they say NO ONE can time the bottom

ExtentNo3020

NO ONE CARES!!!!! they say I can buy everything day essentials and pay my bills with bitcoin, then I’ll back it until that time it’s useless 

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Ironman_is_here

Let's take it to the moon, like Gamestop. NO ONE SELL!!! DIAMOND HANDS💎💎🤑🤑

Luminous_Emission

Could it really not have waited ONE day?

StraightOuttaC-137

Good point. The whitepaper states that the person who wrote it is American. However, they use some words like “favour” (British) instead of “favor” (American). The fact that Len lived in Belgium is by no means solid evidence, but it does give pause for thought. What I find fascinating is the similarity between the BTC white paper and the ones Len had written previously. As for forensic writing experts, the woman behind the Unabomber’s identification was asked what she thought about Satoshi, and she expressed absolute certainty in stating that there was only ONE person behind Satoshi’s writings. According to the theory I’m presenting, Satoshi’s identity would be split into two: a voice and a coder.

Pretty_Breakfast_962

I think I finally got the idea, although I’m not 100% sure I would have found it without the hint about 20 and 26. The first thing that bothered me was the numbers 32, 16, 8, 4, 2 and 1 on the six cards. That can't be accidental. They are exactly the binary weights, and six binary choices give 2⁶ = 64. And there are exactly 64 positions on the 8×8 card. So I started thinking that the six cards are really just six switches. For every number from 1 to 64, we can record whether it appears on each card or not. That gives a unique six-bit code for every number. Then the hint about 20 and 26 suddenly becomes interesting. Apparently, apart from the 8-card, 20 and 26 behave the same way. But if they were also the same on the 8-card, they would have exactly the same six-card code. That can't happen, because every number has to have a different combination. So 20 and 26 MUST be opposite on the 8-card. That looks like the first little piece of the whole construction — basically an initial condition from which the rest can be worked out. Then there is the 180° rotation. At first I thought that was just a theatrical part of the trick, but it seems to be another clue. A card is either flipped or not flipped, so again we have a binary operation. When I think about combining those independent binary states, XOR starts to make sense. So the magician isn't really doing arithmetic with the number the volunteer is thinking of. He is decoding the six yes/no answers. The Franklin square is what makes this much more constrained. Its 2×2 sums and broken-diagonal sums give enough relationships between the positions that the card distributions can't be arbitrary. The resulting construction can be described with fixed XOR values: 32 → 26 16 → 22 8 → 10 4 → 36 2 → 43 1 → 63 Once the magician knows which cards contain the chosen number, he just combines the corresponding values using XOR (with the fixed offset). And now the original 38 trick makes much more sense. The volunteer says, “I can't find this number.” That means the number is absent from all six cards. In binary language, that is simply 0. There is only ONE such combination out of the 64 possibilities. So the magician doesn't need to see the cards at all. He knows exactly which position that combination corresponds to, and in this particular Franklin-square arrangement that position contains 38. That's the part I really like about the puzzle: the magician isn't somehow guessing 38. The information has already been encoded before the performance even starts. The two things that finally made it click for me were: First, 32-16-8-4-2-1 immediately screams “six binary bits”, and six bits giving exactly 64 possibilities can't really be a coincidence. Second, the 20/26 clue tells us that this isn't just a generic binary-card trick. Their forced difference on the 8-card gives an initial condition, and the Franklin-square constraints then pin down the rest of the construction. So I think the real secret is the combination of binary encoding + the special Franklin-square constraints + XOR. And the magician's “38” is just the most amusing example because the volunteer accidentally gives him the easiest possible code: all six bits are zero. If iam correct: 1GajcPPZYUCeCV8LQ126qM1iJjBYEFpf1g

ryencool

It has nothimg to fo woth takimg thimgs from people who are not liked. Absolutely NO ONE works hard enough to be a billionaire. On top of that they have the money ajd resources to shaoe the workd based on their beliefs, one person. Hundreds of thousands of people cam vote for something that will greatly improve their lives. Them a single billionaire can throw their money and power at that issue akd change the outcome. They do this to benefit themselves, akd their companies. Not other people.... The out comes and humam history can be changed be a single lumatic that got lucky like trump has. Yet here you are stickimg uo for them. Taxing someone who has a billion dollars is the right way to do things...theyll still be insanely rich...

j-reacher77

I used to invest in stocks before this war. When the war started, all stocks went down, and the brokersI was using suddenly had “technical issues” preventing investors from withdrawing their money. Both platforms were middle eastern. Meanwhile bitcoin? Barely moved, and no one in the world could ever lock it. That was when it “clicked” for me and moved everything to bitcoin afterwards. I might be wrong, but at least now I am sleeping knowing that NO ONE has control over my money.

Hour_Flounder1405

that's not the complete story. in my backyard, I have a hybrid fig tree. it's a one of a kind. It tastes like maple syrup, vanilla and rich sweet cherry. I'm not kidding. I don't know how it happened, but it's something like a miracle. But the thing is, it's just ONE TREE. No one else knows about it. No one but me knows anything about it \*until now\*. There is no doubt in my mind that this tree could be sold for millions and millions. but then, think about that for a few minutes. a. it's scarce and limited...but currently is has no store of value...none. No one knows about it. b. The minute it becomes known, more to the point, the minute that others can start cloning it...it is not longer scarce.. But could it become valuable? probably. likely. But over time, would it hold the same level of interest and command such a high price? probably not. Especially if ANYONE COULD BUY IT. sure it would be popular, but the value would go down. c. What is really the difference between bitcoin and my delish fig tree? perceived valued? that producing a single fig isn't going to cost me approximately 80,000$USD in energy and infrastructure costs? I can continue to clone the fig tree and no one can stop me or anyone else. Bitcoin does have a "manifest" that agrees to limit the total bitcoin at 21 millions, with 20 + million already minted, and with the last 1 million to be minted/mined between now and year 2040. Whereas I can own fractional amounts of bitcoin, no one buys 1/50th of a fig. I can actually trade a couple of pounds of these figs for lots of things...shrimp, beef. Heck I can even set up at farmers market and sell the figs. All by myself...and no one cares. No one is telling me what price I can or cannot sell or buy them, what taxes or not I should assign and I get the benefit of seeing a smile on someone's face when I watch them eat one of these incredible figs. if it's not clear...we are not really dealing in reality with bitcoin. at every part of the narrative, it fails to completely satisfy the very definitions that we pretend can be assigned to it. it is NOT a store of value. Nor is it deflationary. Any price chart should inform you of this and some basic understanding about the costs of producing and mining and yes, storing them. Those costs exceed the price of bitcoin and it's likely to be the same in the future. It becomes more costly to produce them. And because you can buy the fractionally...and because the "market" that influencing the price is more about speculation than anything fundamental like value. it's nothing more than a giant casino game. with odds far lower that you will find a return that even covers the cost of your time and the inflationary factor of fiat. because remember, when you do "win", what happens then? you of course convert it to some future fiat currency. And at that point in time, your fiat currency will have dramatically dropped in purchasing power. say hello to inflation while you wince from that reality. it's best to think about bitcoin with a clear understanding about what to expect. Most people don't understand bitcoin because well, it really doesn't make sense. God Bless America

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Astr0b0ie

> here is no actual cycle it's just people buying in assuming there is a cycle ... which actually creates the cycle. The four year bitcoin cycle is real and has been occuring before people realized there was a four year cycle. Of course, it's ultimately formed through human behaviour which is influenced by general macroeconomic cycles and "the halving", but that doesn't negate the fact that there's been a consistent four year cycle. It's pretty damn clear: The first bull market peaked in Nov 2013, the second in Dec 2017, the third in Nov 2021, and most recently in Oct 2025. Each bull market cycle occurred every four years +/- ONE month. That's a very consistent pattern.

DrCrazyCurious

**In the same way walking into a casino and dropping $1000 on the Roulette table is a way to build wealth**. The wheel has 37 (or 38) possible results. For every 37 people who drop their money on a specific number, 36 will walk away broke and ONE lucky person will walk away with $35,000 The problem is after 37,000 people do this you've got a full 1000 people walking around saying they're a genius and making money on meme coins is easy while another 36,000 people are broke. Both the winners and the losers happened by luck. But all of them were fools if they thought any skill was involved. Now multiply that by the millions of people running to meme coins because the latest YouTube video or whatever said something is a sure bet. It's gambling. It's just gambling.

crowninvestor

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Dormage

It is an altcoin mr. smart ass. The token is called NOW, and ONE of the products is an exchange.

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Legitimate_Form5449

TWENTY ONE CAPITAL FULL TIME EMPLOYEES: 3 good nite 😄

tedusam

Stop spreading nonsense. NO ONE said there will be a rate hike at Jackson Hole.

veskald

The switching layer is the wrong picture. You dont need a bot that picks strategies - you need strategies that each know when NOT to trade. The regime filter lives inside each strategy: a trend rule that stays silent in chop, a range rule that stays silent in trend. Build 2 or N of those, run them together and check the losses/drawdown correlation between them - if its low, the portfolio curve is smoother than any single strategy. The portfolio IS the dynamic bot, no picker on top. And the order still matters: first ONE rule that survives an honest test with fees and funding. The "which conditions does it work in" question comes up during that test anyway - you will see it in the results.

Demonyx12

There can be ONLY ONE! 🌩️⚔️

SilverPrivateer

Okay. I'll bite. I've been a bitcoiner via MSTR for some time now, but if ONE of you can explain why "fartingcoin" is worth 200 million dollars, I'll buy 100 bucks worth. Go ahead, memecoiners of reddit. Let's hear your genius. Because I think I'm pretty happy being a bitociner instead.

immersive-matthew

Seems a bit odd to post this before the end of October. Maybe this is going to be a meme in a meme later. Who knows as NO ONE KNOWS.

LionRivr

But imagine in 4 years after a peak of $250k and then price crashes to $120k. Then the price goes from a low of $120k all the way up to $180k within 1 week: “*BTC pumped $60k in ONE WEEK. Four years ago, an entire Bitcoin was worth $15,500.*”

nachtraum

If you only think short term then no one knows the answer. Could pull back lower from here, could explode. NO ONE knows. If you think long-term, lets say 5 years, there is a good chance that it will be a good investment. But only if you wouldn't panic sell when dumps are happening, which most newbies can't stomach.

vinikct

actually I’d rather check the shady gushi land website on your bio (I did it) than actually publish 1 by 1 screen shots, this is not how papers are done, Imagine Satoshi sharing BTC whitepaper “hey guys check it out, BUT WAIT LET ME UPLOAD 9 PRINTSCREENS ONE BY ONE BECAUSE THE CRYPTO SECURITY PARANOIDS WON’T READ IT” by the way clicking on forum links and downloading things was riskier then. If your setup won’t allow you to read the paper then you are not the audience.

ILost1Bitcoin

Everyone has been talking about an October bottom, and then everyone also talks about the October bottom being front run. You know the REAL, MAX PAIN scenario NO ONE is talking about? Sideways until dec like no one is expecting and then a 50% dump to 30k in dec-jan. no one is talking about that scenario. max pain scenario.

lexicon_riot

There's nuance to this discussion. The question isn't how much hash you need to produce the next block, the question is how much hash you need to stop malicious miners from gaining the incentive to attack Bitcoin. We don't know the answer to that question yet. Hopefully we never will, but it will be a LOT higher than just one CPU, so this "BUT ACHTUALLY YOU JUST NEED ONE LAPTOP" rhetoric doesn't help at all.

MakCapital

Lol everyone: "ONE MORE DIP! BOTTOM OCTOBER!" This usually means the bottom is already in or we fall well below common targets. Whatever happens will surprise the majority. Should already be buying these lows and buy more if the crypto gods gift us with even lower prices on the majors people actually use.

xarips

This is such a tasty dip for HARMONY ONE Buy ONE and lets all go to the MOON

AppropriateTry9400

> We don’t really need them, because Bitcoin specifically has 128 bits of cryptographic security, and 256 bits doesn’t add anything in that regard. But your 90 bits are already too little to match Bitcoin’s level of cryptographic security. Why do 256 bits exist? Well, it was ONE OF the seed options considered when BIP-39 was being developed, so to speak. It had a number of its own considerations. For example, a 24-word seed cannot be recovered if you enter the seed on a computer in a random order. This was needed at the time for the Trezor One (and the standard itself was developed by this wallet developers). Another consideration I heard from Ledger (why they offer only 256-bit seeds) is simply having a “good safety margin” in terms of entropy, a better checksum, and things along those lines. Basically, if you’ve already chosen a hardware wallet, why not use BIP-39 to its "full potential"? And there’s a third reason I heard recently. When transitioning to post-quantum cryptography, people will most likely be able to continue using their existing seed phrases without having to recreate their wallets. But that would only work if the seed has 24 words. 12 words (and 128 bits of security) would already be insufficient for post-quantum cryptography. That said, this is still a matter of debate, since nothing has been decided on this front yet.

markalanray00

People in this sub give me Safemoon type vibes. ONE has been “dead” for years. It will not come back.

FarlessWesner_24

ONE's been bleeding out for a while now - at this point you're either averaging down betting on a Harmony comeback or watching a dead project slowly fade. If you're holding bags, might be worth asking yourself if that capital could do better elsewhere.

cccc0079

It was a promised chain in the past until their bridge was hacked. Didn't know their chain still in alive until today. I still have some ONE on the chain.

No-Average3202

Not even the first time Harmony gets hacked either, this is like the third major exploit for them at this point. ONE has basically bled out to nothing over the years, feels less like bad luck at this point and more like a project that was never built solid to begin with.

TexasBoyz-713

ONE to $1!!!

Alatarlhun

AAVE still locking my now entirely worthless ONE tokens from the first hack years later.

Systemonly69

On the last hack of Harmony ONE. They should have shut down the project and restarted with a new name. Now it’s just Harmony DONE

BossCatBrian

Haven’t been following news since I lost everything…but wow ONE coin was still alive? Lol

Prior_Parsley3960

summary for paid article. lol at the shade the summary agent threw **Importance:** ⭐⭐⭐☆☆ — severe for Harmony, limited broader crypto impact # What happened * Harmony suffered an apparent exploit allowing an attacker to **create roughly 4 billion ONE tokens out of thin air**—about **26% of the pre-attack supply**. * ONE subsequently plunged roughly **40%**. * Harmony confirmed the attack, paused its bridge, issued an emergency software update and asked exchanges to freeze funds associated with four attacker addresses. # How it works This is essentially catastrophic unauthorized inflation: **\~15B ONE existing → attacker creates \~4B additional ONE → sends tokens toward exchanges → sells essentially free tokens → legitimate holders get diluted + price collapses.** The exact technical vulnerability **has not yet been publicly explained by Harmony**. # What happens now Harmony says it's considering a **blockchain rollback**—rewinding the chain to before the exploit. That could erase the fraudulent mint, but it could also **reverse legitimate transactions made after the attack**, making this technically and philosophically controversial. And coins already moved onto centralized exchanges are much harder to recover. # Important context This isn't Harmony's first major security failure. Its Horizon bridge lost about **$100 million in 2022**, and a separate 2023 bug accidentally created **146 million ONE**. # Bottom line **Potentially existential for Harmony, but not a systemic crypto event.** An exploit capable of creating **a quarter of your token supply at will** strikes directly at confidence in the chain itself. Even if Harmony successfully freezes/rolls back much of the damage, restoring trust may be considerably harder than fixing the software.

Left_Entrepreneur918

You need to get a good lawyer who can get an exchange to stop processing or turn over kyc. This is an uphill battle and will suck because it’s going to be costly. Honestly just take the lesson and invest in a retirement account. Crypto isn’t for you. I don’t say that to be a jerk but you had 25 btc in one wallet, no safeguards, and you put your seed into the ONE place Trezor says NEVER to put it, on a computer.

illyipsi

It’s worth a lot of you Realise that in this is the value of only ONE asset in your Pocket.

Jenn2895

Ya, **releasing ONE BILLION tokens per month** is great for token holders. lol. So more people can get wealthy… off of something that already has a **market cap of $70 BILLION.** Definitely sounds reasonable to me.

xarips

ONE is a magnificent project Buy HARMONEY ONE and be rich forever! - this sub all 2021

jjwmonsta

Just remember. No ONE controls BTC. As long as that is the case it will be decentralized.

Garland_Key

STOP. PUTTING. YOUR. WHOLE. BAG. IN. ONE. PLACE. This needs to become a standard in our community: Don't put more Bitcoin than you can stomach losing on a single device.

Zestyclose_Ad2462

Planes crash all the time. Do people stop flying? No. Why? Because the crash was caused by pilot error, mechanical fault, weather etc and NOT a flaw in flying itself. Crashes are studied and improvements/corrections are made. As a result, flying is safer today than it ever has been. Bitcoin did not fail. On the contrary, it succeeded. The price went UP and will keep doing so. Why? The network still works. Transactions still process. Institutional adoption continues to accelerate. I do agree having your life savings in ANY 1 place/investment is asking for it. But you can self-custody with other safeguards, leave some on a reputable exchange and invest the bulk in ETF's using various custodians. To indict an entire asset class just because ONE cold wallet company was negligent is.... wrong. But I won't stop you from sticking with "safe" investments. There are still people that write snail mail letters, vs email. The world has passed them by, they just don't realize it.

bfr_

Now show me similar research for the crypto hardwarw wallets. It doesn’t exist. Ledger has ONE connector library and it was already used to drain users by supply chain attacks. iPhones have been remarkably secure despite being attacked continuously and used by tens of millions of users. Also governments. This is what battle tested means. Also I’m talking avout *storing* your keys and i never even said you should use your online iPhone. I have zero interest in viral posts, i say this because of my proffession. Those devices are way more secure than the wallets made by random teams of 4 people. You are free to believe what you want. And Yes, i speak about iPhones which are secure because of the whole ecosyststem is controlled by Apple, a privilege Android does not have.

wannaplayspace

I want to call bullshit on something you said here: NO ONE types in the address manually. You copy and paste it. Every system is set up that way. Only a mad man would try to just type it out for the fun of it. Lets be real here.

zazzologrendsyiyve

I think the issue arises if you have received multiple transactions in the same address, and you have also spent some from the same address. So a good verification would be to check if your addresses have more than ONE deposit transaction. If they are all change addresses (generated during other transactions) then you should be fine (unless of course the multisign wallet configuration file has been stolen from you - because configuration file + 2 seeds = big problem).

BuyIllustrious4576

Coldcard, you had ONE job

Neat-Finger197

And keep “Trusted by Bitcoiners” in a tag line?! Lol, find me ONE bitcoiner who trusts this POS company now. They’re cooked.

AutoCockerPB

If the police never show up to arrest you, you never go to jail. Welcome to the clown show. This is what was warned before the election, this shit show. He has full control. Even if he doesn’t have full control of his brain or asshole, he CAN do what he wants bc NO ONE IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE has stopped him. This is just another grain of sand in the desert full of garbage he’s gotten away with. And at this point, he’s too far gone to ever understand punishment. Bro is pooping his paints and repeating words in the middle of speeches. Shits fucked.

locustsandhoney

WHY IN THE WORLD are they using the same address to receive the stolen Bitcoin? That’s literally the only way to prove it was stolen. Anyone could CLAIM their Bitcoin was stolen, but if it goes to some random address, there’s no way to know whether it’s an address they control themselves. But since the attacker is using ONE address for everything, they are making it a million times harder for themselves to actually utilize the stolen funds, since everyone will be tracking them, and they are also giving all victims clear proof that the theft was real. WHY WOULD A THEIF DO THIS? I genuinely don’t understand.

marshyr3d1and

Why the fuck can't we all just use stainless plates in multiple locations? Trust NO ONE!

MrMoo151515

My biggest gripe, is that some individuals are acting disgusted with coinkite (rightfully), and basically saying they fucked up the ONE thing they couldn’t fuck up and that’s proper entropy. Which yes, agreed. But then when it comes to themselves I haven’t even seen an apology after shilling for the company for years. They literally have an EDUCATIONAL channel teaching people the do’s and the do nots of wallets and how to self custody. This is some people’s life savings. If you have an educational channel for such important products about security and sovereignty it’s pretty important you don’t fuck up talking about the one thing that keeps them safe. It’s obviously not their fault and they aren’t to blame. But publicly apologizing to those you let down goes a long way. People put trust in your education and you sure as shjt sold people on the idea. The bare minimum needs to be an apology for those who lost there BTC.

Todo_es

This has nothing to to with Bitcoin, safe-custody or normal hard wallets vulnerabilities. This was all on ONE very shitty small company with a shitty CEO and a shitty dev that put a bug in their firmware (by mistake or intentionally) and NEVER, not even ONCE tested the firmware before publishing and implementing. Trezor and Ledger hard wallets are completely safe, impossible to hack if you keep your 24 words safe.

Todo_es

In ANY case, this was an incredibly stupid mistake by a shitty small company with a shitty CEO that should have NEVER been trusted: > So the assumption it woulda been found relies on the idea that end-to-end TESTING would be done. My question: WHY was that testing not being done the whole time?!? > > If your co. has ONE JOB, then where's the prioritization of quality testing? https://x.com/serumroth/status/2084347339737588107

Inevitable-Waltz-889

You live in a bubble.  Most people probably haven't heard about this.  I have friends that own bitcoin, in cold storage (thankfully not on a Coldcared) that had zero clue it was happening. If anything this is good for bitcoin as a whole because Coinkite was some dogmatic entity to a lot of "true" bitcoiners.  All the security LARPing about airgapped and battery powered was just a farce because they clearly didn't spend enough time getting the ONE thing that needed to happen correct: seed entropy.  And then had the audacity to trash other companies that were trying to make self custody more user friendly.

-_-0_0-_0

My wealth and treasures? If you want it, you can have it! Search for it! I left it all at that place! **THE ONE PIECE IS REAL**

RecoverOld9545

Why would you have a single point of failure? I don't mean to monday morning quarterback and pile on here but holding that much in ONE wallet is nuts to me.

Caspica

>It's not a self custody hack! Its ONE service/manufacturer who through its incompetence, added to malicious intent of other party, fucked over a lot of people. This is no different than a bank telling customers their money is safe in their vault and then get robbed like in the movies. The difference is that customers get their money back even if the bank was robbed. The CC victims won't. 

Sprunklefunzel

It's not a self custody hack! Its ONE service/manufacturer who through its incompetence, added to malicious intent of other party, fucked over a lot of people. This is no different than a bank telling customers their money is safe in their vault and then get robbed like in the movies. The concept of Self custody is as valid as ever and many other manufacturers are not affectedby this bug, but trust that open source code is better by default is now eroded quote a bit though. The whole thing is unfortunate and im truly sorry and saddened for those who lost property, but hope this serves as a lesson to other wallet makers.

RedKard76

TRUST NO ONE. Multi sig is all you need. Anything else means you don't understand.

Lavayo

Does MSTR have a risk apart from BTCs performance? Yes of course. But I don't trust Saylor but the whole company. It might not seem like it sometimes, but its not a one man show. According to communication and the release of current data like buys / sells its an uniquely transparent company. Your seem to just hate THE ONE GUY and ignore pretty much everything else.

00-SilverShot

I always thought airgapped wallets were pointless and stayed with Trezor because their source code is on Github. So glad I did. Thank you God! My Trezor is the older Model T. I’ve been wanting to upgrade for a while and now is a great time. I went ahead and bought a new Safe 5 (btc only) for better entropy than the Model T. Nothing is wrong with the Model T, but I’m not taking any chances after recent events. This also shows that YOU SHOULD NEVER PUT YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET. If you’re lucky enough to hold over 1 BTC, split it between a multiple hardware wallets from different manufacturers who have a better reputation (Trezor, Ledger). I also use BlueWallet on iPhone (open source). I keep some on the Strike app (custodial wallet, I trust Jack Mallers) and also hold FBTC in my Fidelity account.  Hardware wallets are for long term holds, soft wallets are for spending, and ETFs are for short/medium term holds where I take profit during bull markets. Never put more than 50% in one spot. I’m not saying this is for everyone, but it’s what I do. If one thing gets hacked, you still have at least half your coins still. Stay safe out there friends.

frugaleringenieur

It's awful, I understand how it happened and can relate but it's so incredibly wrong on so many levels for a security focused product that especially has THAT SINGLE ONE JOB to generate high entropy and safeguard that derived private key.

Serbithar

Find a tutorial; you need only ONE dice. 5 rolls for one world. Or 4 rolls + coin flip. Having 5 dices speeds things up, but it's not required. You note the results and read words from the table. Last step is to calculate the checksum. Preferred are CASINO GRADE dice(s).

LanguageStudyBuddy

its because stolen property can always go back to the owner, even if you werent the one who stole it and it changed hands 100 times since the initial theft. because everyone can see that these coins were stolen the moment they hit a service that does know your customer, the coins could be seized to be returned to the original owner. Therefore NO ONE would want knowingly buy or sell these coins unless they were involved in some illegality

Sleepycoiner

A financial crisis and a bank going under vs a crypto hack is absolutely night and day. Like wtf is this comparison? There havent been hundreds of thousands of people hacked for their crypto and ONE financial crash that led to banks closing. No one is hacking jp morgan and stealing your money dude

Todo_es

> compared to 12 words or 24 words That was NOT the issue. 24 words are 100% unhackable. The problem was a ONE bad company´s TERRIBLE security fail. This was an extremely rare event, an incredible stupid error from a very small and undersaffed company.

Full-Atmosphere-4818

Remember that all except ONE etf stores their Bitcoin at Coinbase. The one that does not is Fidelity. 

Abject-Stretch-1187

I don’t think you genuinely understood what you just wrote. Assets today denominated in fiat are over valued not just because people are assigning higher premiums to them but also because more fiat is chasing those same scarce goods hence why their value are exaggerated. If you don’t believe me, study the German mark or even the Zimbabwean dollars. Goods, assets, companies were valued in the trillions not because they were actually worth trillions but because they’re priced in shit fiat currencies.  When those with these overvalued assets actually wanted to sell them for better money, those asset fetched considerably less(this isn’t an indication that they aren’t valuable btw)  The onus is on you to show me ONE fiat currency that has survived for centuries, you can’t. But I can show you commodity-monies that have. Whether you like it or not, all Fiat inevitably fails, it’s not theoretical nor feelings, it’s a fact and if you’re struggling with this reality, it’s not my prerogative.  You can own productive businesses or sell valuable goods and services but you’re fighting against inflationary pressures that isn’t meant to be part of your economic calculation. This pressure alone can cause your business to collapse and if in the eventuality it doesn’t, you will be stupid to use another FIAT as your denominator going forward because the fate of your business will be the same(this is what will most likely cause the shift to a decentralized form of money) initially folks will switch to the dollar but that is just a placeholder as the dollar WILL fail as well.  Bitcoin has a better chance of replacing fiat than any other made-shift money like assets we have today simply because those assets weren’t designed to be monies is my point. 

Systemonly69

Initially mined BTC in 2015 and sold in 2016, then buyed Harmony ONE in 2020 and made a profit and then purchased LTC thinking it would go to $300.

DonTheHolder

Nancy Gutherie kidnapping. Iran straight of hormuz tolls. Oh wait.... 10,000 ;?bitcoin for 2 papa John's 🍕 pizzas. Worth $630,000,000 630m or $1,200,000,000 1.2bn ath ath Yeah. That. ONE.

Darkpriest667

The same thing.... that happens to every imitator... folks there is ONE cryptocurrency and it is bitcoin everything else is a SCAM or a cheap imitation. Even Ethereum.

marvinrabbit

Just as a heads up, this may not be the end of the story. (I'm sorry, I don't have any advice on gaining leverage at crypto.com.) One very common pathway that many of us use is to buy crypto at an exchange (like crypto.com, in your case) and transfer some or all of it off their platform. This is called 'self custody'. Locally, the *keys* to the crypto could be kept on a computer in what's called a 'software wallet' or 'warm wallet'. They could also be managed by an external device called a 'hardware wallet' or 'cold wallet'. Usually a hardware wallet will have a matching software program with it. Search installed apps on any computers for common management names; Trezor, Ledger, Swallow, Electrum, Exodus, MetaMask (browser based), Tangem, Rabby. This is not an exhaustive list. **Generally** a self custody wallet, software or hardware, will have a backup 'key' that allows access to all the assets, regardless of the wallet name. This key **usually** takes the form of a series of words that we call the 'seed phrase'. The seed phrase is most commonly 12, 20, or 24 words. (Depending on how they are stored, they may be shortened to only the first 4 letters each.) That can be on a paper, a metal plate, stamped or scribed on metal washers or tags. It could just be holes or divots on a metal plate. **IMPORTANT:** If you find something that you suspect may be a seed phrase list, **NEVER** make a digital record of it. Don't snap a picture with your phone, don't send it in email or text, don't even make a photocopy. Simple: If you do, all of it will disappear. Not maybe, definitely. Come back for more help. And as others have mentioned, ignore any DM requests. EVERY SINGLE ONE will be trying to scam you out of your money.

MediocreTax7927

Well you haven’t help me and decided what I wanted to hear yourself.. I literally asked for opinions not what I want to hear. Everyone wants it to go the highest possible it seems pretty obvious. I’ve rejected what exactly? I’ve asked questions and thanked everyone I replied to. It’s called a discussion. We don’t have to agree but we don’t need to be rude. Maybe just say you don’t know.. or that you don’t like questions like this, that’s fair. But to pretend you don’t look at the price of it and that makes you the ONE that understands it. Seems pretty ignorant to me.

Blake_a12

This is the absolute worst time to do that - and would most definitely make your uncle roll in his grave and dishonor him, respectfully (and I DO mean respectfully- that’s the point, don’t disrespect him & left you and what he did & worked to leave you) - you would be selling at the bottom in the most bear point of the bear market, in the literal ONE truly >!known!< cycle that is truly predictable on a near exact time schedule, than any asset in history - sell any time after this year, especially at least 2028, but 100% especially especially 2029 when the parabolic bull cycle returns post bitcoin-halvening, and that $80k will be at least double to triple - yes, that $80k will be at least $160k -$240k .. that is QUITE LITERALLY what is on the line with your decision .. and do you not only want to maximize this opportunity of your lifetime and gift of your lifetime, but honor him and his dedication and commitment and work to make this all possible for you- he didn’t quite get to live to see the part/reward being waited on that I just described to you over these next couple years for 2029, but now you do, and it’s quite literally all on you how you handle it and if you maturely & patiently & wisely seize this opportunity of all opportunities, or if you ‘squander it,’ not to sound like Eminem in Lose Yourself aka the biggest song of the 2000’s because of exactly biggest-opportunity-in-your-life situations like this one So sorry your uncle passed away - hopefully it was peaceful and had family loving him <3

FixedGearJunkie

It stings when you can look back and be like, "shoulda sold and bought back more for less etc". When it's the top NO ONE knows it's in fact the top. How would it feel if you sold at 120k only to watch it rocket to 190k? I had similar feelings a few cycles back. Now I just stack and ignore what could have been and try to stay focused on the future.

TexasBoyz-713

ONE to $1!!!

Erudyx

well it was more complex than this actually The private key on the discord server was ONE of the phantom account I was using, mainly for test or small transfer. The one I used was another phantom account, BUT I discovered afterward that ALL phantom account shares the same seed phrase, with no way of changing this when creating a new account.......... So, all my account were compromised, from an account I alsmost never use lol Anyway, do not do like me yeah lol

Puzzleheaded-War960

a ONE HUNDRED percent chance? a certainty? you absolutely cannot be serious

geteum

Yeah, sure buddy, where one dummy with 12 b ( less than 1% of the ONE TRILLION) can tank the market. Something tells me that there is no where near the volume and the money people says the market have.

Backrus

They can't coexist because no compliance team will allow random validators to handle big institutions business. Good example in smaller scale is ETH L2s which was and still is a disaster, but even here you got ONE clear winner (Arbitrum and HyperEVM). You have no idea how financial institutions and their world work.

CompetitiveDrawing89

You want to tell me ONE guy can move whole market? Where is decentralisation?

CompetitiveDrawing89

So decentralization means ONE guy can crash whole funny money market?

ClearSnakewood

Even if they upgraded it all to the flashiest, most secure, best security, whatever, practices… I DONT TRUST THESE FUCKING BANKS. Because they’re all PARASITES! The reason why I’m so hardcore Bitcoin is because NO ONE needs to give me permission to use it and I can verify where my money is. There is nothing like Bitcoin and all these Stonks and Wallstreet products are still under the grip of these parasites. And I’m going down with the ship if I have to. Bitcoin or bust! F these banks and F Wallstreet.

LibertyWithLiquidity

Legend. If you currently use a software wallet, that is okay, but make sure to purchase a hardware wallet soon (this is a large amount of Bitcoin). I recommend the BitBox02. Get the Nova if you want to use it with iOS, for Windows the regular BitBox02 is enough. Buy it directly from bitbox.swiss, not Amazon or another seller. Generate a fresh 12 word seed phrase with that hardware wallet, write down the words with a pencil (more durable than a pen) & store it in a safe location. Those 12 words are your Bitcoin essentially, NO ONE should ever get them, otherwise your Bitcoin WILL be gone in no time. Anyone who asks for those words is a scammer, no exceptions. Not the police, not tech support, no one. The hardware wallet itself is not critical, as it's secured by a PIN you choose when you set it up. After 10 unsuccessful attempts it will factory reset & wipe out the keys stored inside the wallet. So you can pretty much keep that thing in your desk drawer.

Ternerxdd

Good idea, real gap. But last \~100 tweets kills it, you're auditing recent tweets, not a track record, so a permabull scores 100% in a bull sample and 0% in chop, same account different month. APompliano at 0/100 on ONE call is a coin flip with a confident UI. and extracts predictions via scraping hides all the bias, who decides what's a falsifiable call or a hit? 256 calls is a tiny sample with a fuzzy layer. Open source the logic or it's just neat marketing