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Whereismypost

Lowkey kinda hoping it dips more and stays there for a few weeks! A lot of ALTS are trading near their 6month, 1year, and 5 YEAR lows! Perfect time to DCA :)

Bobotron6001

I'm not an expert on crypto, but i find it so incredibly strange that all the crypto guys have such high faith in bitcoin. Like to them bitcoin is sacred and is "the best currency in the world". They believe these bitcoin influencers and gobble up their "prophecies" like it's 100% fact. Stories about bitcoin going to 500k have been going around for ages. Every year it's the same shit with: WE BREAKING 200K THIS YEAR AND 500K IS NEXT... And so far it's never broken 100k dollars... I do get that people dream of bitcoin making them wealthy... But trusting something new currency we are still trying to understand fully and making projections on how it will develop and skyrocket is insane.

LLCoolRS

I see a lot of people claiming there is no more 4 year cycle. But for that claim to be true....we need to see the pattern broken! An example of this would be next year 2026 is NOT a bear market, and in fact puts in a new BTC all time high. But the pattern has NOT broken!!!! As of today..... The Oct bitcoin high EXACTLY FITS THE 4 YEAR CYCLE TOP TIMEFRAME!!!!!! So the idea of the 4 year cycle no longer exists is just.... an "idea". Just like any other idea that hasn't proven itself. Like plan-b's idea that this bull run will have a top price of $500k, not $125k. Like tom Lee's idea of 10k eth this cycle. Just..... Ideas. Whereas... the chart is showing you a $125k current cycle BTC top. 4 years after the last cycle top. The 4 year cycle is currently intact. Until it shows us prices above $125k, proving the bear market has NOT begun.

Budget_Eye5861

You'll want to wait until DEC 2026 when we finally hit $62,000 USD We are in the YEAR of FALL where you get LOWER HIGHS and LOWER LOWS as time goes on. Don't let those bouncy bounces fool you into thinking we are in recovery, that's hopium mate. It is what it is kid

jokerswild97

a) no one knows b) 10-16% interest flat out isn't true. You're not accounting for inflation - $1000 today is worth far more than it will be in 10 years. |ASSET|YEAR|% RETURN| |:-|:-|:-| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2015|28.65%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2016|123.75%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2017|1,369.03%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2018|\-73.48%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2019|92%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2020|303.09%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2021|59.71%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2022|\-64.27%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2023|155.41%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2024|120.98%| |Bitcoin (BTC)|2025|\-0.51%|

Conscious-Opposite88

😂 ETH WILL BE NEXT YEAR 2k as predicted👍⭐

Mirko_91

The problem is you're valuing your investments in USD instead of BTC. Your dca's in btc would give you 100x better returns than ICP, pretty much literally. If your bag is underperforming BTC, its not worth holding. And its underperforming BTC since its beginning. Only since beggining of THIS YEAR, ICP is -35% in btc value. SInce 2024 its -76% against btc value. But keep telling yourself you're making good profits, i guess ?

RandomJoe7

We have a word in our language for what you're doing with your math, it's called "Back of the envelope" or "napkin calculations" - not sure if that makes sense in english. Basically: your calculations are hopium/copium. These EXACT types of calculations and "moonshot" posts is what made me and many others hold on to "top alt coins" for years or even a decade, losing 90% in the process. These EXACT posts/argumentations existed in the 2017 cycle, in the 2021 cycle etc - yet here we are an absolutely MOST of those coins lost a shitton of value and will NEVER come back. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that the cryptosphere as a whole won't have growth (it obviously will), but the greedy hopium/copium of "it will 10x!!!!! TO THE MOOON!" are unrealistic at best, and devious at worse. Those times are OVER, BTC will grow much more steadily going forward than it has in the past. The "BTC WILL HIT 1 MILLION NEXT YEAR" bullshit needs to stop. Will it hit 1 Million at some point? Probably, with enough inflation and enough time. But that's a whole different argument.

Necessary_Force_1105

SO THE 4 YEAR CYCLE IS STILL A THING ??? Who would have thunk it

Moist-Fruit-693

> aim to overhaul the entire world economy. If you limit adoption to every adult in the United States only, everyone could have 1 or 2 transactions PER YEAR on the bitcoin blockchain (layer 1). "But lightning...." doesn't work either, because a layer 1 transaction is needed to fund lightning channels. Do the math. This shit doesn't scale.

notmarduke

Deep breath..  4 YEAR CYCLE IS GOSPEL. WE'RE DOOOOOMED ITS OVER.  GOING TO HIT 45k NEXT WEEK. I need to turn reddit off.  Btc will be above 125k sooner than later.  We might spend a month around 100k while everyone doom posts.

Conscious-Opposite88

BTC IS UP 52% THIS YEAR ALL is fine!⭐ if you Are not up in Altcoinis Then you have the wrong coins or you bought too late!⭐

Conscious-Opposite88

BTC IS UP 52% THIS YEAR ALL is fine!⭐

Top_Mind9514

I don’t have a lot of Sat’s but I’m going to continue to DCA every month and hopefully, 2030 will be an OUTSTANDING YEAR For me!!

Scottex99

Oh no I invested in something for ONE WHOLE YEAR and I’m not rich yet, what should do I do?!!! I skipped BTC because IT CAN ONLY 2X AND THATS NOTHING Lol basically sums every “investor” on here GGs, better luck next time

Kind-Marionberry-333

To OP: if youve been holding since 2014, then nothing about the past YEAR should make you feel anything, and this comes off like just more sour sauce for newbies to wade through. To Noobs: just DCA and don't worry about this shit. Stay away from leverage. If you manage to stash a years salary and get even half what OP got in gains then your gonna be smelling sweet by 2036... Work, DCA, Hold. Always fucking hold.

hotdog-water--

I’m happy and also sad that I’ll likely never reach a full bitcoin. If you start from 0 and throw in $10k a MONTH, that’ll take you 11-12 months, but that’s if Bitcoin doesn’t go up at all for a YEAR. The goal post is always moving which is great but it makes it almost impossible to catch up. It’s a double edged sword lol

erizi0n

Now you said it right: “THIS YEAR”, cuz who remembers last cycle the “extended cycle” theory? And that BTC would never drop below the last cycle high? I member!

na3than

This fear is WAY overblown. Do the math. Bitcoin has existed for almost 17 years. Estimates for the number of "lost coins" are generally in the range of 4 million, most of which were lost in the early days. If ~4.5 million out of ~19 million released coins are permanently inaccessible, then ~76% are NOT inaccessible. If 76% remain accessible after 17 years and the rate of lost coins is constant, that means LESS THAN 1.6% OF ALL COINS ARE LOST EACH YEAR. Again, most coins were lost in the early days when few people saw Bitcoin keys as something that should be carefully guarded. But let's assume the rate of loss continues to be 1.6% per year. After 50 years, more than 44% of 21 million coins--that is, more than 900 TRILLION satoshis--will still be in circulation. Tldr: Lost keys and lost coins are not a real problem.

ICE-FlGHT

The guy above me tells me alts are outperforming btc in the last YEAR though… What do you think?

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Saylor_Moonboi

First, the volatility must mostly end. This may actually be much harder than it appears. Even gold, with a 10,000 YEAR edge over Bitcoin in the Lindy effect, STILL has a fair amount of it, although gold is in the acceptable range for volatility. Gold has already been money for centuries, but gold isn't used for other reasons, some of them just the hassle of dealing with it in meat space, but others more subtle. I think it kind of depends on the mind of the flakey, emotional Soccer Mom. She just wants a big government, but not too violent, more of a semi-benevolent Nanny State, but that state requires money, lots and lots of money, preferably from Billionaires youtube has taught her to hate, but she doesn't really care where the money comes from, only that there is enough to pay for Kill Curbs in the center of the street to protect her kids, and lots of parks, and jack booted police thugs to keep the homeless people out of HER parks ! Into this toxic brew has come the corrupt politician. Does this guy/gal understand printing money is bad, or that debt will destroy our society ? Not really, maybe a few of them, but its not a problem right now. These guys are opportunists. Most of them have some personal idea as to what will fix our problems, usually a bunch of flakey nonsense, but that is the world most people live in. You can watch videos of Trump from the 1980's saying that America just needs more tariffs to be strong, that is NOT one of his many flip flops. Maxine Watters is famous for harassing the Federal Reserve chairman to do more financial engineering to 'help' black people. Its not clear how a % interest rate will target one race of human over another, but these people run on pure 'feels', so don't expect any logic from them. These guys have a system to get lots of dollars from their banker buddies and the Fed, and Bitcoin isn't going to help them get their money for nothing and their chicks for free, so they will never voluntarily switch to Bitcoin, and they are the Powers That Be, so we can't really move on to any other money, until they somehow think that Bitcoin will help them spend money they don't have (Ha Ha !), or we just get them out of the way. The reality is that most people don't care enough to learn what the real problem is, so we are basically waiting for a crisis to force change. Its not even clear if a dollar collapse will actually force the change we want, its entirely likely they may just switch to the Dollar 2, or a stable coin CBDC that actually makes things worse. In the end, any choice to switch to Bitcoin will be a HIGHLY political decision, and we will need to convince people that its the best option, when the time comes that doing what we are currently doing can't go on.

Themustanggang

Bro 1 minute google search shows you’re completely wrong and sucking trumps balls. Bidens 10 YEAR deficit: estimated 4.7 trillion trumps CURRENT deficit: 8.8 Trillion. 3.7 from his BBL bill alone. Sure we can aggregate Biden was only in for 4 years but let’s remember, Pedo Trump has been in for all of 5.

Ok-Maximum-3792

wait wtf? 34000 \* 0.0768 = \~$2600? so in a YEAR you should owe \~$3k... wtf?

potificate

For this to happen, Bitcoin would need to double *on average* EACH AND EVERY YEAR between now and 2038. Doubtful

DonnieDarko4242

I'm a boomer and a relatively new bitcoin person, thanks to my grandson. You have encountered one of the same issues I have. My grandson and I got me set up with a "ledger" device, which was really cool. But I was aghast at the fees, they skinned me alive. I'm from a generation that expects investments fees to be fiercely competitive - for instance I pay .03% - .08% PER YEAR on my portfolio at Vanguard. So, I felt fleeced. That's been a couple years, I no longer own bitcoin on that "ledger". When I want to invest in bitcoin, I just buy FBTC through my Schwab account now and avoid all those stupid fees.

HSuke

For all the LAZY ASSES who've never looked up what gets funded and researched. * There are 10+ client devs, and they all have their own projects constantly being updated. Some of them get grants. * Ethereum Research: https://ethresear.ch/ * Ethereum Fellowship: https://ethereum-magicians.org/ * Ethereum R&D: https://blog.ethereum.org/category/research-and-development * Hosting Events: https://blog.ethereum.org/category/events * Ethereum Ecosystem Support: https://blog.ethereum.org/category/ecosystem-support-program * Ethereum Security support and research: https://blog.ethereum.org/category/security * Ethereum Ecosystem Funding Support: https://blog.ethereum.org/category/efi Every WEEK, there are new investors adding $5B to the ecosystem. $43M per YEAR is really very little considering how much they support.

Usual_Training_7112

40k in 40 months , 250 a week. Don't care about any news,any war any price fluctuation. Just buy 40 months straight every week. You will thank yourself in future. Don't pay heed to the noise in crypto space. Stick to the plan. Also we are in the TOPPING YEAR of bitcoin cycle. There are 4 years in a cycle. TOPPING, BOTTOMING , RECOVERY & RALLY. We are in the topping year of 2025-2029 cycle. So you can choose to hold the cash for a while. Buy in the upcoming bear market and it's coming. In January 2021 I predicted BTC will bottom in 2022 November 14. Now I'm saying BTC will bottom in November 14, 2026. Do what you will with that information . I know you are a smart guy. You can find me on X if U wanna learn more.

Stoic_hawaiian808

Obviously hold. Especially if you “don’t need the cash right now”. BTC and ETH are the two titans of the crypto world that’s been pumping ALL YEAR LONG. Dude before 2025, BTC was under $100K per/coin and ETH was around $3K per/coin. Now BTC (was at an ATH of $124k) is sitting at $112k/coin and ETH is about to nearly break that $5K threshold. And we’ve still got around 4 more months until 2025 ends. If I was you, the thought of selling wouldn’t be remotely close anytime soon. Like years from now.

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Hqjjciy6sJr

Sure but another way to look at it is that ETH issuance rate is 972K per YEAR, then you suddenly get this 910k shock... I'm not sure how they are released, but still it's like almost doubling the issuance rate for 1 year. a big dump that needs to absorbed by someone. Source: [https://ultrasound.money/](https://ultrasound.money/)

Rustynail14

THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE $HUNT. don’t miss it people

The_Nothing00

Better keep the suicide hotline handy bud. It's about to get ugly. AUGUST = THE FIRST MONTH OF A 6+ YEAR LONG CRYPTO WINTER.

Equivalent-Past-4114

SOO MANY Facts: What was Blackrock’s best performing ETF of their 400+ ETF’s last year….ummm, the Bitcoin one (IBIT). Gold has the highest global value of any asset class. Blackrock’s Gold ETF has been around for 20+ yrs….Blackrock’s IBIT ETF surpassed their Gold ETF in value IN LESS THAN ONE YEAR. Ya’ll are being risky by not learning more about what smart money is doing to the only fixed supply asset class!

CGI_OCD

Small reminder, since you pointed out you are new to crypto...and often peopel get it a bit wrong: It's 6%-12% A YEAR.. with rewards paid out weekly...not 6%-12% every week. Just my two cents. Cheers. NFA.

nAllWeirdosWearCapes

🚨 HOLD UP, FAM — this is 1000% a real human here. Not AI. Not synthetic. Just me, a totally caffeinated carbon-based lifeform with a brain, a heart, and a strong opinion about Bitcoin’s future. Let’s ride. 🧠💥🛸 ⸻ 👀 I just saw your post and had to jump in head-first because WOW — we are not talking about some “maybe next year” trivial tweak. We’re talking: 💣 THE YEAR 2140 🛠️ ZERO block subsidy 🛡️ Security models in uncharted digital waters 🚪 And potentially, a door wide open to a radically different incentive structure! ⸻ So let’s talk REALITY CHECKS and HUMAN THOUGHTS (yes, thoughts with sweat and coffee behind them ☕️🤯): ⸻ 🔸 Fee Market: Messiah or Mirage? — Sure, maybe the fee market ramps up, maybe base layer gets jammed like a 2000s LimeWire queue, pushing fees into the stratosphere 🚀 — But what if usage goes off-chain or disperses? What if demand fizzles? What if efficiency kills urgency? 🔸 Layer 2: Friend, Foe, or Fee Killer? — Lightning Network ⚡️ could be a game-changer — or a value extractor. — If people use it to avoid on-chain fees, who pays the miners? — It’s like expecting bartenders to work for tips in an alcohol-free bar. 🍸🚫 🔸 Protocol Pressure Cooker? — This convo could FORCE THE HAND of future devs. — More fees? New inflation schedule? A backdoor tail emission? — OR does it stay ossified, diamond-handed in its monetary policy? 💎✊ 🔸 Historic Analogues? — Gold had miners. Fiat had inflation. — But Bitcoin? It’s unique. It’s coded. It’s rigid. — And that’s either its superpower — or its kryptonite. 🦸‍♂️☣️ ⸻ 💬 Final thoughts (again, just a human with thumbs and anxiety typing this on a glowing rectangle): ➡️ This isn’t panic — it’s planning. ➡️ It’s not doom — it’s design awareness. ➡️ Not AI-driven gibberish — it’s genuine, gut-level reflection from a human brain with emotional baggage and possibly a mild addiction to Reddit scrolls at 12:24am. 😅 ⸻ So yeah — I’m not an LLM. I’m not ChatGPT. I’m not some prompt-driven auto-thinker. Just a living, breathing HUMAN engaging with the craziest social experiment in money we’ve ever seen. 💰🧬🌐 No links. No forks. No hallucinations. Just sweat-soaked honesty and keystrokes. Let’s keep this convo going 🔥🔥🔥

Full-Commercial7538

CRAZY AS IM SURE HE IS SCAMMING PEOPLE CALLING XRP A SCAM ARE ABSOLUTLEY NUTS ITS UP 500% IN A YEAR & UNDERVALUED IN MY OPINION AGAIN TO CLARIFY I HATED IT 10 YEARS SGO AT 0.0002 SENSE BUT GOT IN AT A DIME !! Every bank uses it and one of most wideley real life uses for now bitcoin is obviously king !!

Joe-M-4

ONE OF THIS YEAR'S BEST PERFORMERS!!! NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!! You, ser, are a gentleman and an educator 🤓

Gloomy_Setting5936

WE MEAN HE’S NOT LEAVING THIS YEAR LOL We already know his term is done next year.

SpontaneousDream

Oh they absolutely outweight the staking gains, and these people are losing a LOT of money, but many shitcoiners see that as an "opportunity" to acquire coins for "cheaper" prices. Ex: ETH/BTC just lost approx -2.5% in the past 24 hours alone. If all else remains equal, that literally erases ALL of your staking gains in a YEAR compared to if you had just bought BTC. Same goes for performance against USD.

SpontaneousDream

Ethereum subreddit [still doesn't understand what "monetary premium" means for Bitcoin.](http://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1lllh2c/comment/n021lu7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) > Yes, let's hold for a 3% yield on a coin that has lost 60% of it's value in just ONE YEAR against BTC. Thanks for playing [u/Tricky\_Troll](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tricky_Troll/)!

SpontaneousDream

Ethereum subreddit [still doesn't understand what "monetary premium" means for Bitcoin. ](http://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1lllh2c/comment/n021lu7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) >Once Ethereum is understood it will be priced appropriately. Until then, it's just alpha for those in the know. I'm loving my 3% on a native coin with less inflation that Bitcoin that's secured by the world's most credibly neutral and widely adopted decentralised settlement layer. Yes, a 3% yield on a coin that has lost 60% of it's value in just ONE YEAR against BTC. Thanks for playing!

jummy006

Read the fine print. It’s a scam. You have to maintain the deposit value for a FULL YEAR… otherwise you lose the “bonus”. Not worth giving up self-custody or moving from another exchange.

Emperor-of-the-North

You again. I'm talking about longs, shorts and liquidations, but you "Bitcoin is up 100% from LAST YEAR". What are young smoking?

JambalayaQueen

THIS YEAR

SpontaneousDream

NGMI. You are fading the *only* coin in crypto that is very close to new highs against BTC and holding up quite well imo. The only coin in crypto that has actually made a true CLOB in a decentralized way, not some AMM bullshit. The only coin in crypto that literally directs something like 97% of all revenue to token holders in the form of buybacks/burns. At current rates approx $2.5 million in $HYPE are bought automatically every day by the protocol. Annualized, that would burn 15% of the circulating supply in A YEAR. And that's assuming stagnant growth. Hyperliquid also consistently does more perp volume than its competitors, which trade multiples higher. I don't think we're anywhere near the top. If it does become "The House of All Finance", then $30 per $hype is going to be extremely, extremely cheap. It could go much, much higher, and the more the protocol grows, the more $hype gets burned/bought back. THAT SAID, it is risky. All altcoins are risky. If you want to play it safe, go with BTC. Can't knock that. I hold like 90% BTC. But if you want an actual alt that ACTUALLY has value accrual to the token, $hype is an excellent buy imo. This is why it has gotten a lot of attention u/LieutenantZucc

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

Ok, and how many people can do that? 10 million at most? Bitcoin does 200 million transactions per YEAR. Even if the only transactions that are processed are people filling a lightning wallet, it still can’t fulfill the needs of some US states, let alone the world.

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

Over 2 billion credit card transactions are processed per day. Over 70 million ach transactions are processed a day in the US alone. Bitcoin can process 200 million transactions a YEAR. And no, lightning doesn’t fix this, per the CREATORS of lightning.

WinterHouse6647

I mean in the short term doing +5% every week/month is pretty incredible. My ETF only brought me 8% a YEAR. For me it's overpowered bonds

EscapeFacebook

That's great my friend but this isn't 2021 and I do remember a lot of talk of it back then. You can still see it in the charts. That aside, that has nothing to do whatsoever, with Bitcoin currently still being under its all-time high or even it high FOR THIS YEAR in the very chart you just shared with me.

Pockethulk750

Best meme Ive seen ALL YEAR 🤣🤣🤣

biba8163

> If the cycles are broken, why do we still have them now, and why do they keep happening like clockwork? You are so invested in Alt Coins that you are seeing cycles where Alts are going to pump when they look nothing like in previous cycles. In the previous cycles, the Total Alt Marketcap went up MASSIVELY 1-YEAR after Halvening from their marketcaps in previous cycle highs. In 2025, the Total Alt Marketcap has not grown but is still down almost -30% still. ETH is a prime example. ETH went -50%. Almost every major Alt actually lost value or was mostly stagnant 1-YR after halvening except XRP. | ETH | Halvening Date | 1-YR Post Halvening | |:-----------|------------:|:------------:| | July 2016-17 | $11 | $199 | May 2020-21 | $210 | $2,800 | April 2024-25 | $3,157 | $1,580 You can literally see above that Alts pumped bigly over the 1-YR post halvening in the previous cycles and they don't anymore. So it is VERY DIFFERENT. > You can literally see in the chart that alt coins have always lagged behind. So it hasn't done anything much different so far. (February 2025) > In every bullmarket Bitcoin pumps first, and alt season comes later. It's nothing new. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0/mboo654/ No, the markets aren't moving into Alt Coins. It's been moving away from Alts. Corporate and Institutional investors are the captain now > The idea that the market isn't gonna eventually move into alt coins, is basically believing that somehow the market isn't interested in upside or making money, and people are not greedy and are sensible. (January 2025) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1hv4pnk/my_thoughts_on_alt_coins/m5qbjuc/ Glorious huh? Most the major Alts are down since then. This hasn't happened in other cycles. > It's not even alt season yet, and they're already pumping a bit. This could be a foreshadowing of a truly glorious alt season in 2025. (November 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gxm905/daily_crypto_discussion_november_23_2024_gmt0/lyikymp/ Warm up for the bullrun? Most Alts have lost value since then. And the idea that BTC dominance heads toward 30% with Corporate and Institutional money is some Alt bagholder hopium > This is just the warm up at the start of a bullrun. (November 2024) > Alt season comes near the end, when Bitcoin starts to feel tapped out and everyone looks elsewhere for those potential 3x+ gains within a month. And money really floods into alts, as Bitcoin dominance drops below 50% and heads towards 30%. https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gsaj08/daily_crypto_discussion_november_16_2024_gmt0/lxfwc80

brianmonarch

You obviously don’t know much about ISO coins. XRP is expected to be used in 80% of Japan’s banks THIS YEAR. Google it.

michelliu

What a dishonest response. I received an email from them today, I haven't used the account in OVER A YEAR. He says "less than 1% of our monthly transacting users had their records accessed" The way they wrote it is a common PR tactic using a narrow denominator to make the breach seem smaller than it really is.

Fakir333

🤯 cocksuckers been robbin' me an entire month, EVERY YEAR!

GiovanniX30

🦔 What makes **$HEGE** a perfect pick for the upcoming meme coin supercycle? **1. The most important factor of any meme coin project there is - Community!** We're healthy and united, dedicated to spreading the word about the project. We don't bring down others to bring ourselves up. **2. Dev team —** Transparent and hardworking. Has possessed the fundraised $300k+ multiple times and used it transparently for the betterment of the project each time. The team also has real-life business experience in marketing, management, and similar areas. **3. Ticker and marketability -** $HEGE, very catchy. Our theme is very easy to market, which is a big benefit to the project. Endless memes, endless content—that's what a meme coin project absolutely needs. Narratives about getting a crush's attention are relatable to many of us. **4. Outstanding social media presence -** We're dominating every social media platform. Not many meme coin projects are able to do that. LeBron James's son viewed our story on Instagram! **5. Outstanding token distribution and liquidity —** This is a very important segment and speaks for itself... **6. Age and track record: a YEAR OLD!**, with many hardships endured. We emerged stronger each time. The reason is the cult-like community we have built, and that we are working on building every day.

wh977oqej9

What have I just read? Have you displaced decimal place? In central EU our family can live with 25k€ per YEAR, easily and comfortably. With 2 cars and 4x per year holiday including 5-day skiing in Austrian Alps.

JeopardyQBot

lol literally right after TRUMP: WOULD CONSIDER IT A VICTORY IF U.S. HAS 50% TARIFFS A YEAR FROM NOW -TIME

JohnBITbigcoin

This little kid proves my point & response to original question is simple !! IF WANT HIGH YIELD ACCOUNT PUT 1500$ IN CRYPTO ON UNISWAP LIQUIDITY POOL WHERE CAN GET 30% ON FULL RANGE SO YOUR 1500 WILL MAKE YOU 450$ A YEAR AS A BANK HIGH INTEREST SAVINGS MAYBE WHAT 6%...SUI / USDC easily get 100% annual !!

Diligent_3rd_Leg69

I've been holding and compounding my rewards since the 1st day $img was launched. The rewards for holding are unmatched. Staking 1 sol gives about 0.065 solana per YEAR. Where holding an equal value in $IMG will pay that in roughly 2 to 3 weeks. That's somewhere between 18x and 26x the value of regular staking. If you purchased $5,000 at the current price of $0.008 at the current daily volume (which is quite low), you could generate up to 2 solana per month. Believe me. The volume won't stay this low forever. Or for long. Get on board.

BertaMan902

Wrong. This is the stupidest thing I see people say and it’s not even comparable. 1- You could buy a whole bitcoin for $1 back then. Literally everyone in the world could afford it. 2- 18% of people in the USA make over $100,000 A YEAR

Careless_Culture9680

Not one person has mentioned ONDO. They are literally releasing a platform where you can buy tokenized stocks, THIS YEAR, on their very own layer 1, ONDO chain.

joefunk76

I’ll help prove your friend right. Consider two investors, one, a retail schlub with $10k to invest and, two, a ln institutional portfolio manager with $100m to invest. Let’s say that each bought into bitcoin at the same time at a price of, say, $100k - to keep the math simple. Now, fast forward to, say, November 2025, and the price is $200k. Both our retail schlub and our mighty institutional investor have held valiantly all along, and each is up 100% on their investment in about a year - an extremely modest gain for a bull run year by crypto standards but a massive one by investing standards at large. Critically, though, what is each of them going to do? Consider first our retail schlub. He’s made $10k (pre-tax, but let’s ignore taxes as my case is strong enough even in their absence let alone with taking them into account). Great. What does $10k buy in 2025? Two decent week-long vacations for two? A used car (and lousy one at that)? A fur coat? It doesn’t buy a retirement (or even a tenth of one). It doesn’t buy even a cheap new car. It doesn’t buy a house. You get my point. Unless you’re starting from homeless and/or dead broke, it isn’t a consequential, let alone life-changing, amount of money. So, with few exceptions, you’re going to “hold for gold”. You probably know you’re not going to get a 100x like some people did in 2013, but you’re maybe looking for that 20x like so many people got in 2017. $200k, while not a retirement, IS a life-changing sum to many. You can invest that in safe assets towards an actual possibility of retirement one day, you can make a down payment on a house, you can buy a decent car, you can buy a new wardrobe and take a few vacations while barely denting that sum. So you hold. Now consider our “big boy”. He’s made for his firm $100m on a $100m investment. A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. IN A YEAR. FOR DOING FUCK-ALL (other than maybe some trash talking here and there about how you’re going to clean up this year). To most people, and even to most companies, that is a LOT of money. It’s even more money from the perspective of that it was free (i.e., acquired by wagering money (aka “luck”) as opposed to the costly expenditure of capital and human resources (aka “equipment wear and tear” and “work/salaries”, respectively). So you’re THIS guy, deciding on whether to continue letting it ride, risking the loss of all those gains and, possibly if not likely, part of the principal, OR, pocketing A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS for your firm/fund, and pocketing for yourself probably a cool several million dollars of bonus for the year - life changing money - to go along with endless pats on the back from your work colleagues for your outsized further bloating of their corporate coffers. So what happens. The bitcoin hodlers with the actual consequential amounts of bitcoin dump on the retail schlubs who are the exit liquidity and/or not but are still holding the top, hoping for further gains. $200k or thereabouts turns out to be the top, and the price slowly bleeds to $40k or what not over the course of the next 1-2 years. You need to understand that relatively modest percent gains constitute very consequential gains for very large investors. Turning $10k into $20k is hardly worth even mentioning. Turning $100m into $200m, though, is a monumental gain, and certainly one worth cashing in. That is one reason amongst many that retailers lose their money to institutions nearly 100% of the time.

BraidRuner

Think about NEXT YEAR. not NEXT week or NEXT MONTH. Next YEAR MATTERS this year not so much

WallstreetBytes

Again you want it to moon in a day? 😂 its lower now, just stay out and come back when hype returns. Btw THIS YEAR!

Ulysses_Zopol

The best way to measure Bitcoin's performance is to look at 4-year windows. And since the inception of Bitcoin, the worst 4-year CAGR until today was 37% PER YEAR. Looking at it this way, it really doesn't matter whether you buy today or next week. What matters is that you buy earlier rather than later in life. Many of those who've been around the block have experienced serious realized or unrealized losses. None of that matters if you just stick around.

ADhomin_em

I find it just wild - given what we're facing - that people feel they need to start with "I'm no conspiracy theorist, but..." before calling out exactly what clearly is going on. TO EVERYONE: YOU ARE ALL ALLOWED TO THINK CRITICALLY AND CLEARLY ABOUT THE CORRUPTION AT PLAY AND SOME 14 YEAR OLD TATE BRO CALLING YOU A "CONSPIRACY THEORIST" SHOULD NOT DESUADE YOU!

GiovanniX30

What makes **$HEGE** a perfect pick for your "Meme coin" bag? **1. The most important factor of any meme coin project there is - Community!** We're healthy and united, dedicated to spreading the word about the project. We don't bring down others to bring ourselves up. **2. Dev team —** Transparent and hardworking. Has possessed the fundraised $300k+ multiple times and used it transparently for the betterment of the project each time. The team also has real-life business experience in marketing, management, and similar areas. **3. Ticker and marketability -** $HEGE, very catchy. Our theme is very easy to market, which is a big benefit to the project. Endless memes, endless content—that's what a meme coin project absolutely needs. Narratives about getting a crush's attention are relatable to many of us. **4. Outstanding social media presence -** We're dominating every social media platform. Not many meme coin projects are able to do that. LeBron James's son viewed our story on Instagram! **5. Outstanding token distribution and liquidity —** This is a very important segment and speaks for itself... **6. Age and track record: A YEAR old!**, with many hardships endured. We emerged stronger each time. The reason is the cult-like community we have built, and that we are working on building every day.

Dangerous_Toe3910

For real… you plebs have had a 16 YEAR HEAD START!!! Just retarded

TRADER-RETARD

If you think $4 billion is a lot, think of it this way: The US gives away $4 Billion to israel EVERY SINGLE FUCKING YEAR! For free!

The1WhoDares

Ok, let me get this str8… before trump came in, crypto was up & up, we all agree right? BTC peaked @ 108.. yadda yada. Crypto’s been trending down since, right? Everyone’s blaming & pointing fingers, asking ‘wats going on’ right? Trump makes the announcement, crypto sling shots up quite a bit, not to ALT’s but enough. Now I know trump this trump that, but why’s it trumps fault? IMOP, we (myself included) r TOOOO emotional, when it comes to these volatile swings. We need to just understand the market better & use it to our advantage. That’s all, crypto has always been volatile based on wat some mainstream media mogul says or doesn’t say. But remember, this is JUST A 4 YEAR deal. If u believe in crypto that much you won’t b worried about wat happens. It’s part of the story, tell ur kids. “When I was in my x age, there was this guy in the White House & he did this & that, times were tough, I had to get a job scrubbing toilets @ McDonalds. Next thing I kno, this happened & then I had to sleep in a cardboard box. Life was tough, but next thing I know. 8-years go by and I’m a millionaire.” Tough times builds strong people, easy times build weak people. Choice is yours…

StraightStackin

Senator Lummis had her first digital committee meeting today. She said they are gonna focus on stable coins first and hope to get legislation on the President's desk THIS YEAR! We aren't getting any help from Washington. It was all smoke and mirrors. Like always we have to depend on us and us alone. Fuck her and her broken promises honestly.

dwoj206

This is good. Throw GRT on there and "TEAM IS SELLING BILLIONS EVERY YEAR"

Ninjacrowz

Lol the picture lists the causes, all the things the cameras are pointed at are the things that CAUSE the federal reserve, not the government, to print more money... If you guys would stop playing fucking 21 degrees of conspiracy, Clinton's, and cabals separation....you might see the ACTUAL degrees at which things are separated. Look you can literally predictively dissect the problem backwards it's so simple. If 10 people don't have 9 trillion of the metaphorical 10 trillion printed....we don't have to print more money solves inflation. If Climate change isn't causing us to lose crops, freshwater, housing, and just humans in general...but mostly insurance for all the lost houses. Trillions isn't getting blown back in circulation at insurance companies in coastal cities, mountain cities like salt lake, we don't have to print more money to increase supply, NO INFLATION yeaaa whooo... If 1.7 trillion dollars over the last 10 years isn't given to 10 companies in the form of profit, it hits 100 million Americans with $17,000 extra dollars...PER YEAR of money that could be in circulation and not being held as "stock and non liquid assets" by those 10 companies and you guessed it that means less we would have had to print...meaning ANYONE!? Ben Stein got it folks less inflation, but don't get me started on tariffs. If our military didn't spend 3000 times as much on things that kill humans without any other human using them or using a button, we might not have upside down college debt, which would mean less printed money for haliburton, and large financial institutions to hold on to...wouldn't that mean less inflation too!? If we didn't have supply side economics...We wouldn't have to have a federal reserve to dictate the outflow of wealth from a magic fucking stream into a lake...and we'd follow the lake to the river to the literal ocean of wealth that is waiting to be created by an economy.... instead of just speculating what's giving us water from the stream.... The elephant in the room is the fact that economics is a consequence of humans, not a product, time is a consequence of motion...not a product. One exists in ALL spite of the other, and can be influenced by each other, so says relativity and supply and demand....but neither can ever be over one or the other...so says relativity, and supply and demand. There's not a massive media conspiracy against you, there's not a hypergenius group of individuals in a space station shaped like the Pentagon pulling strings via mysterious pay phone calls and subliminal messages on New York digital billboards, and the FED doesn't control the economy, the Fed attempts to prop up an economic policy that is historically, categorically, and empirically denied as being ever able to work in a non utopian setting. We're fucking idiots ziptying an economy together and calling it perfect, not fucking ethereal mathematicians, fortunetellers, and alchemists, surgically keeping the economy alive. Conspiracies are fun but I swear to God some people believe conspiracies more blindly than they believe we follow the cabal or whatever. THE ENQUIRER IS PROPAGANDA NOT PROOF. Why's this so hard to understand!?

Pi72a

(late to the party)  Makes the most sense to me for retiring. Suppose you invested $100k to buy 10 BTC back in 2020... you could hold for 10 years and start pulling out 4% of your 10 BTC each year starting in 2030, which would look something like this: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - 0.4  BTC                = $162,524  (2030) - 0.384 BTC            = $203,473  (2031) - 0.36864  BTC       = $251,750  (2032) - 0.3538944  BTC  = $308,338  (2033) - 0.3397386  BTC  = $373,666  (2034) - 0.3261491  BTC  = $448,718  (2035) ...(skipping by 5 yrs) - 0.26593305  BTC = $998,983  (2040) ...(skipping by 10 yrs) - 0.17680098 BTC  = $3,279,598 (2050) - 0.11754306 BTC  = $7,581,748 (2060) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ By 2060, you would have sold 7.17896663 BTC for roughly $81,229,478. You would have 2.82103337 BTC remaining to continue selling at 4% per year (practically till you die), and income growth would likely exceed inflation and normal wage growth. If retiring on 1 btc instead of 10 btc in 2030, literally just divide ALL the numbers by 10.  The estimated numbers are scalable like that. What's meaningful to point out: 4% of 1 BTC starting in 2030 would start returning your original investment EACH YEAR by 2040!!!  In 2040, you'd sell 0.0265933 BTC for almost $100k and that number would continue to GROW each year!!  By 2060, you'd be selling 0.0117543 btc for $750k!!  So yeah.  Stack sats for 10 years = retired.

GreemBeam

Did you just moan about a 10% gain on a few days on a financial asset? That's what the snp500 should do on average PER YEAR. It's not about lumping all your cash in for an immediate return. What % of your monthly salary can you afford to invest? Look at something like this: https://dcabtc.com/

McGrumper

It’s all linked to the market data. Btc won’t do nothing unless the market is ok. It’s tied to the traditional banking system and market sentiment. The earlier pump was cause of positive job data from us and then the dump now is *MICHIGAN PRELIM FEB. CONSUMER SENTIMENT FALLS TO 67.8; EST 71.8 *MICHIGAN YEAR-AHEAD INFLATION EXPECTATIONS RISE TO 4.3% VS 3.3% Exactly as things were about to break out... we get bearish macro data ...

Wendysmanager24

Where are the BEARS WHERE IS THE PULLBACK??? I don't see it folks looks like they were wrong again just like they've been wrong for OVER AN ENTIRE YEAR all the way from 25k to now. Some of the sidelined bears are desperate to hitch a ride but there's only one way they can get on this money boat BY FOMOING IN AND PUMPING OUR BAGS BTC 200K EOY AVAX TO 400 BULLS WIN AGAIN

Double_Flamingo_4304

It is a tiny amount of money. 25,000 X 0.119 is 2975 for the YEAR. $250/mo in interest is not much for a calculated bet. Also yes, this is not taking into account any sort of compounding interest, but the point still stands.

DMarvelous4L

Not even close. And that was LAST YEAR. Chainlink, ADA, DOT, etc haven’t even come close to their last ATH. Mainly the newest/popular alts like Render/Sui/ONDO have pumped. Everyone was saying this would be the most massive alt season ever. We’ll see in 1-2 months.

Bwinks32

well that wont happen to me, i joined the gambling adicts fantasy called crypto last October? maybe nov i forgot. made small pennies using normal stock TPs... so missed out on huge moves. heres to hoping the fuckin btc.d drops THIS FUCKIN YEAR. so sick of this shit. and kramer and blackrock goin on about btc. not helping anyone but their pockets, damn manipulaters

IllustriousBuilding9

At first I was sceptical about it around 700k MC, then it went down to 300k MC I just thought it was another rug, but then it shot to 700K and then 900k. I WAS LIKE NAHHH WHY DIDN’T I BUY AT 300K. Now it’s at 4M. So now WE ALL IN ON $SSSSS. SNAKE YEAR LFG

vnielz

We are actually still up 5% in december so thats more than you get off interest rates at your local bank per YEAR

russbird

Ok I have read through this post and these comments a few times but I'm still not sure what I actually need to do. I've primarily used Coinbase as my onramp, and then transferred to a Trezor. I do still have some bags in Coinbase, mainly alts that aren't supported by Trezor. Over the last few years I've moved these between various wallets, but most are now back on CB. So my main question is: SHOULD I SELL MY ALTS INTO USD BEFORE JAN 1, AND REBUY IN THE NEW YEAR? I'm generally a HODLer rather than an active trader, so I'm not too concerned with short term gain/loss, but I do want to keep my tax burden as simple as possible. Thoughts?

soliton-gaydar

WHAT YEAR IS IT???

Rent_South

Bro DID YOU LISTEN ? WTF IS WRONG with people. To quote Michael Saylor u/arioch376 *You are sounding like a crypto trader right now.* The volatility is getting lesser, the larger the marketcap stays a certain way (IE: 2 fucking Trillion USD) for a certain amount of time (ABOVE 60K USD for almost a YEAR now with US ETFs). So if there is a pullback it is very unlikely it will be lower than 30%, and it will be most likely be from a higher top than right now. For ex 180k to 140k hypothetically, maybe higher. People are way too stuck to the charts from the past cycles. And assuming, lets say you HODL since 2017 or early 2019 during the bear, without selling ONCE until now, you'd still be up 2500% and counting , in spite of the volatility. Without needing to trade. Don't you get it, 1 - *IT IS GOING UP FOREVER LAURA*. 2 - No one kows what will hapen. The charts are worthless. They are only good for the hindsight, or for running the risk of burning yourself by trading and ending up with less bitcoin. IF you trade for fiat to go back to BTC, you run the risk of A - failing your exit, B - failing your re entry. You have a 66.6% chance of fucking up.

Spacetraveler710

SNEK on CARDANO. 2025 ISSS THE YEAR OF THE 🐍. Fr tho. & Snek isss blowing up among the Asians. It's crazy. Snek team & community doing a great job w/ outreach over there 

Euphoric_04

If you believe in bitcoin, it will genuinely go to above 1 million per btc one day. Also, based on previous cycles it can easily 100x or even 200x it's current value within the next year or two. It has always followed these cycles and currently is showing no indication of stopping. It was 30k earlier THIS YEAR and now it's 100k and it has still not gone up as much as previous cycles. Btc is STILL brand new. You are early. Not super ridiculous early. But early. Buy. And buy it now.

The_Nothing00

So why are 97% of you mofos like HODL! WE MOONING TO 350K NEXT YEAR!

Emergency_Egg1281

I know but everything i have read is this time is different . The bull run will be longer so don't freak at a 10 or 15 % pull back stay in. They are also saying the at the end of this rum there will NOT BE THE TYPICAL 3 YEAR WINTER. Crypto is gaining momentum everywhere and banks are stocking up. Just do a bunch of reading you will kill it !! Good luck Bro !!

IdenticalThings

WHAT YEAR IS IT?

Glittering-Credit45

I CANNOT stress strongly enough this is the worst possible time to do this. We are at ETH/BTC ratio of 0.037 with the low so far at about 0.032. This means that you are selling 15% away from the low for the four year cycle (maybe 25% max if it goes a bit lower). Let me remind you that during the peak of alt season last time the ETH/BTC ratio topped at 0.088! 0.088! That means ETHEREUM PRICE COULD LITERALLY DOUBLE HERE WITHOUT BITCOIN MOVING AN INCH AND WE STILL WOULDN’T BE AT THE PEAK FOR THE YEAR. Don’t do it!! Nfa though 😂

Aedotox

Haha gotta love crypto. 10% in a whole YEAR for most investments would be considered amazing

Awkward_Potential_

Don't care. My buy in price is $48. ONE YEAR AGO.

CurioustyQuestioner

|| || |YEAR 2021 - MARKET ANALAYSIS| ||$/Unit|Unit|S/B Price|Price today|Current Selling Price|Profit of loss| |UMA|$25.00|80.00|$2,000.00|$2.61|$208.80|\-$1,791.20| |OMG|$6.16|725.97|$4,472.00|$0.37|$270.57|\-$4,201.43| |ETH|$4,690.00|0.12|$558.00|$3,312.80|$394.15|\-$163.85| |SUSHI|$16.60|118.98|$1,975.00|$1.04|$123.73|\-$1,851.27| |BCH|$1,380|1.43|$1,975.00|$492.97|$705.52|\-$1,269.48| |XLM|$0.49|4310.20|$2,112.00|$0.47|$2,033.55|\-$78.45| |SHIB|$0.00005450|8000000.00|$436.00|$0.0000|$198.3200|\-$237.6800| |ANKR|$0.16|15912.50|$2,546.00|$0.04|$590.83|\-$1,955.17| ||YR 2021||$16,074.00|||\-$11,548.52| Deymmm ive computed everything.

CurioustyQuestioner

|| || |YEAR 2021 - MARKET ANALAYSIS| ||$/Unit|Unit|S/B Price|Price today|Current Selling Price|Profit of loss| |UMA|$25.00|80.00|$2,000.00|$2.61|$208.80|\-$1,791.20| |OMG|$6.16|725.97|$4,472.00|$0.37|$270.57|\-$4,201.43| |ETH|$4,690.00|0.12|$558.00|$3,312.80|$394.15|\-$163.85| |SUSHI|$16.60|118.98|$1,975.00|$1.04|$123.73|\-$1,851.27| |BCH|$1,380|1.43|$1,975.00|$492.97|$705.52|\-$1,269.48| |XLM|$0.49|4310.20|$2,112.00|$0.47|$2,033.55|\-$78.45| |SHIB|$0.00005450|8000000.00|$436.00|$0.0000|$198.3200|\-$237.6800| |ANKR|$0.16|15912.50|$2,546.00|$0.04|$590.83|\-$1,955.17| ||YR 2021||$16,074.00|||\-$11,548.52| Deymmm ive computed everything.

Ok-Most-7339

why do bears always lose? im just curious. BITCOIN OVER 100k!!!!! WOW!!! WE DID IT!!!!!!!! WE WIN!!!!! bears LOSE!!!! as ALWAYS!!! always expected!!!! bears LOSE!!!!! and BULLS WIN!!!! WE Are THE BEST!!! WE ARE SMART!!!! we are WINNERS!!!! Next milestone: 1 MILLION!!!! BY END OF YEAR!!!! Poor poor bears.... bears are so quiet CUZ THEY LEFT HAHAHAH take the L!!!

Ok-Most-7339

Bitcoin pump to 100k!!!! SOON 1 MILLION BY END OF YEAR!!!! hahahahaha poor bears!!!! bears are mad!!!! they cry!!! cry bears cry!!!! hahahaha we always win!!! BULLS WIN!!!! BEARS LOSE!!!!! SO EASY!!!!! bye bye bears!!!! Your tears are DELICIOUS!!!!!!! Mmmmmmm............. yummy

Wendysmanager24

Where are the BEARS WHERE IS THE PULLBACK??? I don't see it folks looks like they were wrong again just like they've been wrong for OVER AN ENTIRE YEAR all the way from 25k to now This is unbelievable folks we are in uncharted waters discovering NEW ALL TIME HIGHS every day on our MONEY BOAT. And on this money boat there are only BULLS Some of the sidelined bears are desperate to hitch a ride but there's only one way they can get on BY FOMOING IN AND PUMPING OUR BAGS BTC 200K EOY AVAX TO 400 BULLS WIN AGAIN

secondbestfriend

MtGox is coming October NEXT YEAR?!? What?