BANK

Specialist-Front-007

Also the BANK BANK BANK signs

spilltrend

Power the miners with foot and door swing kinetic energy from the BANK RUNS!

user_name_checks_out

I started using wise years and years ago. I loved them. When I used them to convert between euro and sterling accounts that I held AT THE SAME BANK, they were cheaper than doing an internal transfer within that bank. When bitcoin gained ground, I thought, Wise, an up and coming company that is rocking the status quo, surely they will embrace bitcoin. They were antagonistic toward bitcoin right from the very start. I imagine that they adopted that stance out of necessity, I imagine that they were already not in the good graces of the regulators. I don't care, fuck Wise, I hate them for blocking bitcoin.

Unfair-Remote-3388

What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, I'm going to go under the pretense that I AM BEING MY OWN BANK. Then the cops should REALLY help me because a bank as legitimate as they come. Anyways, money is money regardless of whether it is cryptocurrency. Wacko

JohnBITbigcoin

This little kid proves my point & response to original question is simple !! IF WANT HIGH YIELD ACCOUNT PUT 1500$ IN CRYPTO ON UNISWAP LIQUIDITY POOL WHERE CAN GET 30% ON FULL RANGE SO YOUR 1500 WILL MAKE YOU 450$ A YEAR AS A BANK HIGH INTEREST SAVINGS MAYBE WHAT 6%...SUI / USDC easily get 100% annual !!

BraidRuner

What if , and I'm just spit balling here...what if we BANKED the UNBANKED in AFRICA? Guiz ! Guiz ! Where ya going....they are enjoying electricity...lets BANK them!

Sudden_Ad_5011

Ignorant to think utility based BANK, energy, real estate world assetts, and energy based coins (which actually help miners mine btc for way cheaper electricity) are "scams" 🤣 🤣. Reminds me how I had to convince ppl that bitcoin was NOT a scam on yahoo and nobody wanted to believe me lol... This is why you guys get priced out and fomo when it's too late

Immediate-Effortless

This kind of stuff would result in a BANK RUN!

Aromatic_Dare_6104

Made BANK with 50€ hahaha God I miss those times 😂 buying random shit for 10-50$ and getting 200x profit was wiiiiiild.

sadiq_238

"But for now I'm making BANK LMAO"

savysofa

as long as your making money and not losing great! I made money on $Trump which then made me research these coins and If I have a chance of making money I will 200% take it—- but the big dogs are making BANK BANK

DontLookAtTheM00N

Oh yeah, we've all been misled... ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK whoops I said the quiet part loud and the loud part quiet oh ho ho dear....

baggr288

They also bought almost $800M of MSTR so their total Bitcoin exposure is nearing $1B [BMO Holdings](https://www.quiverquant.com/institutions/BANK%20OF%20MONTREAL%20%7CCAN%7C/)

earonesty

extra 100 million ibit purchased, but also 732,500 put contracts! [https://www.quiverquant.com/institutions/BANK%20OF%20MONTREAL%20|CAN|/](https://www.quiverquant.com/institutions/BANK%20OF%20MONTREAL%20|CAN|/)

davebawx

Haha exactly. It's NATIONAL BANK™. (Of the country of Canada.)

SpaceFaceMistake

Sorry to break it but it’s not it’s essentially the massive gap in low to high liquidity. Of that coin. If you try change to ANY OTHER COIN eg stable coin it will be worth around the same price as you swapped for it being $50 minus fees or dips or growth etc. but I wouldn’t hold for long.. it’s fake $ I did this with a coin I just read Online in a AI generated Post like 95% and I chose this coin on OP chain and I got it and I then had $10 into $500~ I was like omg and nearly brought more but I figured it out to be to good and googled why. And found it’s due to lack of buyers and the token being massively available and the price you see as a higher price is purely miscalculation via a massive difference to any or most other tokens that run with good economics and have supply demand that works and isn’t on one side the whole time EXCEPT having huge demand and a Limited supply AKA $BTC. So don’t Try make money from google posts or even on Forbes where it’s a “WHAT COIN TO MAKE BANK ON 2025” whatever. Just don’t even Ideas on TradingView are IDEAS AND NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE THIS IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE LOOSE BIG ON BITCOIN AND ALTCOINS Ethereum whatever and then it’s up back above their buy price or sell price and then profit but they sold due to the hyper volatility we experiencing right now. That anyone in any other stock market or forex can’t comprehend anymore. It’s like 1-25% dips or gains daily and more so more than 1% which is like what FX changes in a day maximum. So yeah. Buy the peoples fear. Sel their greed! It works. Just be PATIENT!

optimus_primal-rage

Lmao. Look at US. WE ARE THE BANK NOW JEROME. The dinosaur institutes better catch up or go extinct.

Glass_Two8208

Why would u be downvoted for saying that. All of Canada can’t STAND TRUDEAU. He is as corrupts as it gets and I’m guessing majority aren’t from Canada to not know this. Not only did he shut down the trucker protest. He locked some of the “leaders” up. And he ALSO WENT INTO THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS AND EMPTIED ALL OF IT!!

totallymyreal

Dude, Telcoin is the BANK 😂

RobinhoodsFuckingYou

If you hate banks so bad, why you giving your money to an investment BANK that runs an ETF? Your comprehension skills are pure shit sir. Google the word example. The only reason you see a “safe deposit box” is because the conversation suggested putting money in an ETF which is literally handing your money to a bank, and you own shares in a fund that owns what you want to own. Fuck that - I’ll just directly own what I want to own. You can keep your smoke in mirrors bullshit.

valtro05

Still gonna make BANK soon!

skydiveguy

This is just stupid mentality.... you are still GIVING THE BANK 3%. Pay it off and you get to keep that 3% for yourself. I had a 3.5% mortgage and shaved off $40,000 in interest by paying it off early. Thats $40,000 that I am now able to put into my own pocket

Jolly-Championship31

someone just made BANK

ARTOURingINyourbase

LINK. Essentially being used by thousands of financial institutions with SWIFT, DTCC, EUROCLEAR, BANK OF BRAZIL, world liberty financial ( Trumps entrance into crypto), ANZ bank, to name a few. As countries create regulatory clarity around cryptos, banks will get involved and LINK will be there to connect them all

IndubitablePrognosis

He is creating a BITCOIN BANK. If/when he can clear the hurdles, he can create a bank where you deposit fiat, then get a high-interest fiat return. He can do this because he only needs to offer higher rates than other banks. ZIRP periods offer no real interest at trad banks or bonds AND cause inflation. Inflation leads to Bitcoin going up. He can then offer to allow you to take withdrawals in Bitcoin. This spreads adoption but also allows them to clear Bitcoin from their balance sheet without "selling". This on top of creating Every. Possible. Financial. Instrument to allow the world to have exposure to Bitcoin.

MooFz

BANK

Fine_Letterhead_1971

If I had a spare 75k lasting around, If stick all that into FIAT stock and make BANK!

Menkau-re

Oh, some people made BANK. It was mostly just luck though. If you happened to already own some when the craze began back in like early 2020 AND cashed out when everyone else bought it, responding to that craze, then yes. The problem, of course, was that for MOST people, they bought in BECAUSE of the craze and by then, it was already mostly too late. All the mass buy-ins, causing all the gains, had basically all happened by this point, so for most people it sat relatively steady, until it declined. So, most people maybe broke more or less even, or likely even lost. But for those lucky few, well, literal millionaires WERE made.

ts_wrathchild

> If this trend continues, I'd be selling bitcoin, moving the money into a BANK and then using a debit card ? Yes. That's what you do. > It seems like the promise of no involvement of banks isn't really true then? There is no future for any currency that can't access established traditional banking rails. That said, you will *never* need a bank to transfer BTC from one wallet to another. That is the promise of Bitcoin. Nothing more.

Narrow_City1180

treat it like a withdrawal and then use it ? It appears fewer and fewer places are accepting CASH. I was at this coffee shop recently where they said they would not accept cash. Crazy so I had to pay with a creditcard. If this trend continues, I'd be selling bitcoin, moving the money into a BANK and then using a debit card ? It seems like the promise of no involvement of banks isn't really true then?

CilicianCrusader

No sorry bro, not a Swiss bank account in their pocket …. A Swiss BANK in their pocket . He doesn’t get it

Pretend-Living-2620

DONT LEAVE BANK until you entirle understand how bitcoin and crypto works. There is a part behind as the same as banks in wich you dont know excatly who manages your money, you only do like movements but they have power over it. But if you are not familiar with it do not close your bank account just tey moving little amount of money justto see how it works.

can_of_hearts

A quick fact that everyone should now: Of the top GDP countries in the EU, Italy was one of the few that aggressively pushed against introducing crypto friendly visas and policies. A reason for this is that the key decision makers of Italy's central bank also happen to be the main drivers of CBDC's and are responsible for much of the focus on blockchain from BIS (BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS). Fabio Panetta being a key figure in the middle of all of this.

Injoker11

Wow you redittors are so stupid! Clearly he is right! A BITCOIN BANK TO MAKE PAYMENTS WITH BTC. HAHAHA, ANYONE STILL INVESTS IN BTC AFTER HEARING THIS CO-OPTION OF BTC

sortofhappyish

/r/personalfinance mods seem to be actual BANK employees, based on the things they will ban people for, such as even HINTING fiat is a dead-end or that banks rip people off paying 0.1% interest etc.

AbjectFee5982

Again. For like the 7th time FTX IS NOT A BANK and crypto is a security Good luck with your bankruptcy laws to get your money back in full. More over If you had any money on FTX... LEGALLY THAT MONEY OR CRYPTO WAS NEVER YOURS. UNTIL you cashed out.. it's also not insured like a bank.

CipherX0010

Tell me you don't know the meaning of decentralized finance without telling me you don't know the definition. 🤣 The whole point of crypto is YOU'RE THE ONE IN CONTROL YOU ARE YOUR BANK Banks are not safe and never have been, have fun living in the matrix

Choobtastic

Are you a completly soft? He’s fighting Jake Paul gonna make huge BANK

Sufficient-Clock-364

guarantee you googled if coinbase was fractional reserve and found out they actually hold a 1 for 1 reserve because they are NOT A BANK

RogueAxiom

Crypto has to be turned into real money SOMEHOW at SOME BANK/CRYPTO EXCHANGE. If you are US based, you may have to leave home with the literal clothes on your back. But after you get some support and a lawyer, you can get subpoenas for ALL assets. With some detective work, you husband would have deposited cash or used credit/debit to put the cash into crypto--that has an address. There is very good software lawyers and private detectives can use to trace crypto trades as THERE IS ALWAYS A RECEIPT ON THE BLOCKCHAIN. This is how the US government has been catching criminals out lately. Nothing will be easy, but you should not let fear preclude you to stay a prisoner. You are already near rock bottom anyway, so the crypto thing is the least of your worries. **"A bird builds a nest 1 piece of straw at a time. A woman leaves home the same way--1 piece of underwear at a time" --Chris Rock (paraphrase)**

MinimumDiligent7478

Some people, depending on time/chance, might be able to exploit the system of exploitation themselves, taking their (unearned)"profit" from the bitcoins, but bitcoin wont save anybody and is not a solution to our monetary issues. Theres a process to the creation of (GENUINE)money. One(and one only) method of monetizing our production, or, of tokenizing our wealth, free of any exploitation/manipulation. Because people allow this one(and one only natural) process of money creation to be, taken advantage of (or obfuscated? misrepresented? distorted? subverted? etc.), usury rules the world today.. Unless youre addicted to volatile trading for the sake of volatile trading, stay away from bitcoin. Will bitcoin arrest the multiplication of artificial indebtedness were subject to? No Does bitcoin solve inflation/deflation? No Will bitcoin save people from unjust foreclosures? No Will the bitcoins stop governments from imposing austerity measures? No Can bitcoin restore peoples artificially destroyed credit worthiness? No How is bitcoins redeemable in anything of value of its own, when its exchanged, for things financed under "banking" exploitation? Its not Bitcoins (and all these other cryptocurrencies) dont end "banking" exploitation. They only sustain it... "To actually claim BitCONS have value as bitcoin suggests because they are useful & because they are scarce **is not only admitting BitCON has unaccountable representation but likewise has a volumetric impropriety to begin with as any gold standard would or had in the past.** Useful does not qualify immutable representation nor does scarcity qualify stable whatsoever. Scarcity of money today, by imposed interest on a falsified debt, is the very reason why we have a irreversible multiplication of artificial debt, so be assured as soon as bitcoin starts lending, ( SEE HERE WHERE BITCON HAS BEEN GIVEN THE GO AHEAD TO OPERATE AS A BANK ) they have just stepped into the bankers shoes of terminal exploitation. Actually they already have one shoe on because they are complying with banking regulation, **which is the very reason why there is an exchange of bank money to acquire Bitcoins in the first place, thus any bitcoin value is not only wholly artificial but is logically a further misrepresentation derived from a former misrepresentation — originating from the banks purposed obfuscation of our promissory obligations we have to each other.** Contrary to those advocating bitcoin merely assuming it has no connection to banking whatsoever — **the connection is not only to initially purchase bitcoin with bank money,** SEE HERE & HERE , **but bitcoin has to likewise conform with the current banking regulation,** SEE HERE" https://australia4mpe.com/2017/06/30/is-bitcoin-the-solution/

iGotItNowRobbie

Don’t invest in things that can literally go to zero… memes can disappear. ETH and BTC could take a 80-90% haircut but let’s be honest, like BANK OF AMERICA, They are too big to fail, if you HODL you will eventually be in profit. Long term, don’t try to get rich on memes… might as well hit the casinos.

EvaUnit_03

So them getting malaria and inventing the cure, is an extremely profitable game for certain companies. You are looking way too small. Like curing cancer. We've been funding that shit for 50 years, yet we havent cured jack. But many companies have made BANK off of it.

shadyghxst

Lmao seems you lack reading and comprehension skills and thats the most fucked up. Did you read Op post? THERE IS NO CRYPO INVOLVED ANYWHERE ITS MONEY FROM DAD BANK ACCOUNT TO SCAMMER or Scammer laundering money in Dads bank account.

tianavitoli

no i believe joe biden when he says: **don't.** can take that to the BANK

MinimumDiligent7478

Real money, is a immutable token of value commensurable to what people give up by engaging in production. A representation Like the purported "banking" system, the scam of alternate currencies, produces nothing. First, to defraud former possessors of money, of their money. Then, to manipulate volume in further ways that its architects may "earn"(profits?) without producing. Pathetic. Some people, depending on time/chance, might be able to exploit the system of ("banking")exploitation themselves, taking their (unearned)"profit" from the bitcoins, but bitcoin wont save anybody and its not a solution to our monetary issues. Theres a process to the creation of (GENUINE)money. One(and one only) method of monetizing our production, or, of tokenizing our wealth, free of any exploitation/manipulation. Because people allow this one(and one only natural) process of money creation to be, taken advantage of (or obfuscated? misrepresented? distorted? subverted? etc.), usury rules the world today.. Unless youre addicted to volatile trading for the sake of volatile trading, stay away from bitcoin. Will bitcoin arrest the multiplication of artificial indebtedness were subject to? No Does bitcoin solve inflation/deflation? No Will bitcoin save people from unjust foreclosures? No Will the bitcoins stop governments from imposing austerity measures? No Can bitcoin restore peoples artificially destroyed credit worthiness? No How is bitcoins redeemable in anything of value of its own, when its exchanged, for things financed under "banking" exploitation? Its not Bitcoins (and all these other cryptocurrencies) dont end "banking" exploitation. They only sustain it "To actually claim BitCONS have value as bitcoin suggests because they are useful & because they are scarce is not only admitting BitCON has unaccountable representation but likewise has a volumetric impropriety to begin with as any gold standard would or had in the past. Useful does not qualify immutable representation, nor does scarcity qualify stable whatsoever. Scarcity of money today, by imposed interest on a falsified debt, is the very reason why we have a irreversible multiplication of artificial debt, so be assured as soon as bitcoin starts lending, ( SEE HERE WHERE BITCON HAS BEEN GIVEN THE GO AHEAD TO OPERATE AS A BANK ) they have just stepped into the bankers shoes of terminal exploitation. Actually they already have one shoe on because they are complying with banking regulation, **which is the very reason why there is an exchange of bank money to acquire Bitcoins in the first place, thus any bitcoin value is not only wholly artificial but is logically a further misrepresentation derived from a former misrepresentation — originating from the banks purposed obfuscation of our promissory obligations we have to each other.** Contrary to those advocating bitcoin merely assuming it has no connection to banking whatsoever — **the connection is not only to initially purchase bitcoin with bank money, SEE HERE & HERE , but bitcoin has to likewise conform with the current banking regulation , SEE HERE ."** https://australia4mpe.com/2017/06/30/is-bitcoin-the-solution/

Ok-Lie-8068

Hello, I'm looking for a reliable receiver for a *SWIFT GPI MT103* cash transfer. If you have a verified SWIFT or BANK account and can receive large transactions securely, please share your details. I prioritize confidentiality, speed, and security. Let's discuss further if we can work together. Please share your: - CIS DETAILS - Any relevant details" +44 7466 604647

ToastFaceKiller

“I trust DFV” Bro why?? You don’t know the guy lmao. He’s making BANK off people like you and he’s back for round 2 lol

The_Realist01

Correct. I love how everyone here thinks 220+ congressmen are pro crypto. THIS IS PRO BANK PPL.

Nfakyle

<in blatantly audible to bystanders voice> "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BANK DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY?"

UniversalDarkMatter

They wanted another transfer of $83K in Crypto 1.28 BTC TO A SWEDEN BANK with an address that has been reported here many times as a Scam! (Kalkofnsvegur 2, Reykjavik, Capital Region, 101, IS)

UniversalDarkMatter

My email from Juilofxpro Platform about “Self Serve” through their Banking System SGIBN.com Due to the VOLATILITY and HIGH SENDING FEE TARIFF in BITCOIN (BTC) sending due to the HALVING “” we have paused our BITCOIN WITHDRAWAL PORTAL until further our ONLINE BANKING SELF SERVICE PAYMENT PORTAL is ready for use . You are advised to send your personal information and will be directed to our ONLINE BANK from our Platform for Self Service. Service Payment provided by SGIBN.COM

UniversalDarkMatter

Look up Juilofxpro.com you can sign up. Also SGIBN.com Bank (in Sweden) Customer Care at 800-522-4100 phone number belongs to Bank in Cali. National Valley Bank I asked if they are affiliated to SGIBN.Com, I asked if I was a client with them, gave them my personal information, IM NOT. The Only Contact Number I have for SGIBN bank is via Chat (S.G.I.B.N® MARIEBERG 112 59 STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN. 24/04/2024. Due to the VOLATILITY and HIGH SENDING FEE TARIFF in BITCOIN (BTC) sending due to the HALVING"" we have paused our BITCOIN WITHDRAWAL PORTAL until further our ONLINE BANKING SELF SERVICE PAYMENT PORTAL is ready for use. You are advised to send your personal information and will be directed to our ONLINE BANK from our Platform for Self Service.

Righteous_Fury

They probably sent that money to buy sandwiches Just kidding! This is the first stage of the Bitcoin parabolic explosion. It's like a double back run. Everyone withdrawals their fiat in a short period of time so they can get some BTC. WHICH IS LIKE A SECOND LAYER BANK RUN I think we are entering uncharted territory FAST

iamexercised

Guys I am a client of Bank of America and I used their credit card to buy btc which I then used to purchase my new memecoin ZukElonBabyDoge. So in essence, Bank of America has bought a stake in my memecoin (until I pay back the credit) **BANK OF AMERICA PARTNERSHIP WITH ZUKELONBABYDOGECOIN**

Shiratori-3

HERE'S A THING - CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA DENIES + SAYS HAS BEEN MISQUOTED: 🚨Update: Central Bank of Nigeria called it false news, Cointelegraph/Coindesk and other agencies misquoted it. https://twitter.com/cenbank/status/1783081492018602076

ElonMusksStalker

But the "MY BANK ACCOUNT" is 100X smarter Just saying

Master-Piccolo-4588

It is a BANK. You know what they do right? Besides, it’s pretty profitable.

UrethreaFranklin1

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WITHDRAW MONEY FROM A BANK IF THE GRID GOES DOWN? Insert SpongeBob meme

Inevitable-Ad9006

Reddit guy "Michael Saylor gonna be laughing to the bank." Michael Saylor: "BITCH I AM THE BANK!"

ryanvk__

Doesn’t disappear. It comes out of the BANK system, removing several levels of leverage for the bank.

godofpumpkins

No no, when price goes up it means the world understands how right we always have been, and when it goes down it means the BANK$TERS are conspiring to keep the rest of us poor. Only possible explanation

PopFirm5291

Fck Chase Banks. Fcl Well Fargo. Fck Silicone Valley Banks. Fck all of them. Bitcoin is YOUR BANK now.

BraidRuner

Name the BANK so people can take action as in moving their accounts.

Desigrow

wtf is the branch “director” your mother? First off I agree with them in principle in life. But nonetheless this is against freedom. Add your age for context. Kindly put detailed google review, after you close that fuking bank account. Add the bank name here and help redditors leave the bank. It’s not you. THAT BANK DOESN’T DESERVE TO SURVIVE.

zero0n3

So whatever happened to that country who was using Bitcoin for their reserve currency? They must be making BANK right now? Bought golden toilets for all their citizens??

apex_editor

My wife keeps looking at our CB account and I keep telling her, until it's in our BANK account, we haven't made a profit.

Navman22

And you can take that to the BANK (cold storage)

CollarNegative

Also I’m not done reading their convo but looks like he was wiring to coinbase, account got frozen and then he started wiring to Bitcoin gate. Bottom line DOES THIS MEAN SHE HAS THE BANK INFO!????

LuganoSatoshi

customtoggle just learned the meaning of a BANK, thats there the money goes away from the stupid to the rich.

mrKennyBones

I’d say some of the projects within the Cardano ecosystem. $SNEK is a good meme coin, $AGIX, $IAG, $COPI and $BANK for gaming. And while it’s slower because it’s Cardano, who the fuck cares when it’s SAFE and predictable to use. This is a no-brainer to me. Cardano projects will go to the moon like any other chain. But the risk is so much lower on Cardano. Speed will come, that’s not the most important right now. Other, much larger problems needs to be solved first. Then those will and can scale later.

Southraz1025

Find a credit union, never use a BANK!

KlearCat

This is not about BANK safety deposit boxes, this is about a company offering safety deposit boxes that was doing shady things. Furthermore, having your only copy of your seed in a bank safety box is not a good idea. But have a copy of it IS part of a good plan if you are trying to craft a Will that will pass down your recovery seed to your loved ones. If I was crafting such a Will, I would 100% do this. Much better than saying "use metal detector in back yard and find recovery seed." Why? Because simply a bad actor lawyer who reads this would realize that you hold significant sums of crypto in your backyard that all they need is to go and get it. A lawyer can't go in your safety security box, and breaking into someone's backyard is much simpler than breaking into a bank. Also you can easily disguise your recovery seed. One example is in your will say "I leave my safety deposit box to ______. Please read the contents carefully, including all cards, paperwork, and mail" and leave an envelope disguised as a birthday card with the recovery seed inside. Even if that bank was broken into and robbers broke into the safety deposit boxes, they are looking for cash/jewels/valuable items...a birthday card from Grandma ain't it. (Also, you would know immediately as that would be front page news in your town that a bank was robbed) You can literally leave your recovery seed without even saying you are and with little worry that the recipient won't get it. People need to think outside the box here (or inside, I should say) and not just flip out when reading about some shady non-bank being raided for doing illegal things.

Ranchyspatula

ADA is 🔥 don’t believe the FUD! Checkout what Palmyra, Rosen Bridge, and $BANK have cooking! Iagon and Indigo are two other popular projects!

montauk87

You get two sets of keys - the bank does not have their own. No code. If you lose the key then the BANK will drill the safe to replace the lock and give you a new key

Full-Perception-5674

Not sure if you knew but this and Elon musk YouTube fakes were super popular a few years ago. Boy they made BANK on idiots. Sooooo much bank on soooooo many idiots.

Lavasioux

Here is some info for Stellar #XLM Fans, Stellar #XLM Stats for Dec 26, 2023 Transactions: 2,310,647 Operations: 7,481,792 (3.24 Ops/TX Avg) Average TX Cost: 0.000618 XLM ($0.000077) That's 2.3 Million transactions and all of the fees combined are about $177. 5 second transaction time average. Stellar Network has a built in Decentralized Exchange; SDex. No need to TRUST any exchanges! Accessable any day/time via any non-custodial XLM wallet (Lobstr, Solar, Stellarterm, etc) "Our Keys, Our Coins!" There is a Coinmarketcap type ranking website where we can view the assets issued; SDexExplorer, and check issuing token address authenticity as well as browse current trading volume and marketcaps. Stellar partnered with Moneygram and we can now on/off ramp $USDC with Zero fees at over 300,000 Moneygram locations in 180 countries, without needing a bank account. NO BANK ACCOUNT NEEDED. Stellar recently announced that the "Soroban Smart Contract" release date is January 30th, 2024. Just around the corner. It is currently live on the "Stellar Test Net". The official unofficial Stellar slogan is "Viva la Stellar!")

vastercryptos

HERE I LEAVE YOU THIS DE-ENTRALIZED BANK IS AS A BROKER AND PAYS YOU BETTER, IT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING TO LOOK A LITTLE https://nexo.com/ref/e7eed4e7mg?src=web-link

vastercryptos

HERE I LEAVE YOU THIS DE-ENTRALIZED BANK IS AS A BROKER AND PAYS YOU BETTER, IT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING TO LOOK A LITTLE [https://nexo.com/ref/e7eed4e7mg?src=web-link](https://nexo.com/ref/e7eed4e7mg?src=web-link)

yebyen

I did not have any malice intended and I seriously am genuinely interested in your trauma, otherwise I would never have engaged this conversation at all. I'm sorry if that felt like a cheap jab. I do not pay fees if I can avoid it, which for many cryptos is impossible, and I get that – but banks, you can usually move money for free. It isn't complicated. I don't get why you think it's complicated. There is no fee. I'm saying schedule, but really what I mean is "before it's too late." Before the scheduled payment comes out? You know? Which is why I'm not averse to using my bank or crypto funds. The fees are nil because I have practiced this, and I know how to avoid the fees. I have been burned by fees, that is part of my trauma. >Or... OR! And hear me out on this one because it might sound crazy: you could just ASK YOUR BANK. These things are regulated Are they? And this call is being recorded, is it? Hmm. I wonder if that will ever work in my favor. I've done that, bro, and it is deeply unpleasant. Like this conversation has been. I hope the rest of your day is better, whether you have one bank or many banks in your future. (Or no banks at all!)

FeeeFiiFooFumm

> I haven't heard you make one solid argument for why that's a bad idea - "too complicated" or "costs money" are both variables What do you mean you haven't heard any solid arguments? "too complicated" I never said but "costs money" and "doesn't do anything besides complicating things" is exactly the argument not to do it. Do you not realize that all your tests and checks are utterly worthless should your bank or crypto exchange or blockchain of choice break down? What does it help you that you spent and rebought your bitcoin every month, all the while incurring unnecessary taxes on these transactions, when once the exchange/blockchain DOESN'T allow you to withdraw or transact, none of your prior tests will help you? You're delusional if you think you can avoid losing your money by "spending and replacing on a schedule" especially if it comes to crypto. Even with banks I don't see how it helps you to move your money around. Not having all money in one account might save you from a single bank failing, yes. Moving money around doesn't contribute to that. > Ever heard of rotating your keys? It's a good idea for opsec reasons to rotate your keys on some schedule Yes I did and no this is absolutely not the same as "spending and replacing some bitcoins on a schedule". You're not "rotating your keys", you're just throwing money out the window for no good reason. > I think you should move your coins because you should have an idea of what it costs You can get this idea perfectly well without ever moving one sat of crypto. Have you ever heard of tx fee calculators? There's whole websites dedicated to just showing you the transaction fees for almost any crypto. **Why do you think you need to actually move it to know what it will cost? Especially if you consider that fees are dynamic with most blockchains and your tests don't tell you a single relevant information in terms of cost for any future transaction.** My man, with every sentence you write trying to explain your reasoning it becomes ever more clear that you really haven't thought this through. > I suspect that's where our disagreement actually stems from, but you don't want to admit it because you're a small-blocker. No, I believe I was rather clear on where I disagree with you: Moving around cash or crypto is useless and only costs you money. I don't know what you mean by "small-blocker" but whatever you think that insult to mean, it's got nothing to do with why you're objectively wrong in your assumptions and reasoning. > I think the same about my banks. If one bank takes 4 days to move money and the other bank takes only one day, that's an operational characteristic of the bank that I won't know if I'm not moving money around. Or... OR! And hear me out on this one because it might sound crazy: you could just ASK YOUR BANK. These things are regulated. They have to tell you how long a transaction will take. It's in their terms and conditions. Again, you're incurring extra work and potentially extra fees to get an information you've already been provided when you signed up with the bank and which you otherwise could get for free at any point in time by JUST ASKING. > So I am glad you got a good bank and good relationship with them hope they never lock you out of your money. How does moving my money around on any random schedule help me with that once they do lock me out, though? > hell, I used to work for one of these banks As a janitor or a teller at best, maybe. You don't seem to grasp basic operation and regulation concepts of any proper bank according to your own words. > Surely it's a good idea to incur your tax liabilities little-by-little not all-at-once. This doesn't help you here at all. You're just incurring ADDITIONAL UNNECESSARY tax liabilities by doing it your way. > Honestly, if you have more than one crypto token then why wouldn't you have more than one bank? Because a crypto token and a bank are two completely different things. I don't need two banks to hold EUR and USD. I can do that perfectly fine with just one bank, just one account and no moving of funds on any schedule whatsoever. > because all banks won't open you an account at all once your credit is no good. (Ask me how I know.) I don't need to ask. You showing it over and over again: you don't understand this stuff. You are financially illiterate AND you don't realize that you are. > Honestly, you're the one with a problem. I never said I had a problem, I just said I move my money and you had a whole conniption fit "you shouldn't do that" Buddy, you're on the internet. Commenting on a thread about avoiding high fees with BTC. Nobody asked you but you decided to comment your nonsense about "spending and replacing your crypto on a schedule". What did you expect how others would take this? Did you think everybody else would just go "oh, that's just a random stranger mumbling to himself" or maybe rather that you tried to provide an answer or at least to contribute to the discussion? Of course you could get feedback to your comment and in this case it wasn't positive. I don't believe that's a "conniption fit", my man. > I think you have some unresolved trauma you're not telling me about. I do and I won't tell you because it doesn't relate to the issue at hand. But also because you can't even take care of yourself, apparently. Why would I trust you with MY trauma. lol. Also: that's a cheap and unnecessary jab.

Ok-Western-5799

What are your thoughts about FET? One of the most talked about AI projects of the year. I think the Oracle will also take shape ahead of the next market run and projects LINK, BANK, SUPRA (Public sales happening soon) taking the lead

Crypt0nomics

Read up you may learn something OP. STOP USING CRAP exchanges- should not take a lot of time and shouldnt cost a dime! Coinbase and Binance are the Fedz "Man the process is very exhausting. Having to transfer to coinbase, and then transfer to your own bank account takes a lot of time. Plus all the fees along the way make you lose a lot of money. For example I withdrew $200 USD, and had to pay $50 USD in fees along the way." \---also in a nation that touts USD like America.. it is always going to make crypto take a back seat. However you can buy food and water with BTC and crypto.. but many of these places are areas where the USD is not the premiere currency. People in Latin America couldnt even survive if it wasnt for crypto due to hyperinflation of their sovereign currency. Also buying crypto via an exchange is not the only way to obtain crypto. It can always be MINED and many ppl in Latin America did just that when their currency went belly up. Although America hasnt seen hyperinflation YET.. it will and when it does having crypto as well as other forms of payment like precious metals and cash will be the diversity to allow you to get things that many pppl cannot. Crypto was never about avoiding banks. It was to allow you to become YOUR OWN BANK. To have a store of value in crypto that no one can take from you. Now if you sell and give it back to the market in exchange for USD- thats on you. You dont OWN Us Dollars- the Federal Reserve does. They however dont own and control crypto. They do however control many of the mainstream exchanges which is why you have to get verified and KYC BS. The time has come where the feds are clamping down on exchanges. This is their way of controlling the crypto space- but its only worrisome for ppl who are only buying and trading back to USD. They clamped down on Coinbase many moons ago. Binance is their next victim. You should never use either of these.. and if you do it should be to buy and quickly withdraw the crypto from the exchanges back to cold storage. If your in crypto to just buy and sell as the moon rises and sets- well that isnt what it was for. Afterall your going right back to the BANK lol. It was meant to allow you the buyer sole control and have a store of value. Just because you cant do things with crypto in your country now, doesnt mean you wont tommorrow. It also doesnt mean other ppl arent using it to survive and make ends meet.

pazsworld

Adding to this! I can sell a portion of my MSTR and have the funds in my FIAT BANK account immediately. I'm not fully onboard with my node and my current FIAT Dollars are currently being utilized with the banking system. THIS will have to change soon!

Lavasioux

Info for Stellar #XLM Fans, Stellar #XLM Stats for Dec 01, 2023 Transactions: 2,080,674 Operations: 8,164,580 (3.92 Ops/TX Avg) Average TX Cost: 0.000570 XLM ($0.000068) That's 2 Million transactions and all of the fees combined are about $141. 5 second transaction time with a feww less than 1 cent. Stellar Network has a built in Decentralized Exchange; SDex. There is a Coinmarketcap type ranking website where we can view the assets issued; SDexExplorer. NO EXCHANGE NEEDED. Stellar partnered with Moneygram and we can now on/off ramp $USDC with Zero fees at over 300,000 Moneygram locations in 180 countries, without needing a bank account. NO BANK ACCOUNT NEEDED. Stellar recently announced that the "Soroban Smart Contract" release date is January 30th, 2024. Just around the corner. It is currently live on the "Stellar Test Net". The official unofficial Stellar slogan is "Viva la Stellar!"

Lavasioux

Info for Stellar #XLM Fans, Stellar #XLM Stats for Dec 01, 2023 Transactions: 2,080,674 Operations: 8,164,580 (3.92 Ops/TX Avg) Average TX Cost: 0.000570 XLM ($0.000068) That's 2 Million transactions and all of the fees combined are about $141. 5 second transaction time with a feww less than 1 cent. Stellar Network has a built in Decentralized Exchange; SDex. There is a Coinmarketcap type ranking website where we can view the assets issued; SDexExplorer. Stellar partnered with Moneygram and we can now on/off ramp $USDC with Zero fees at over 300,000 Moneygram locations in 180 countries, without needing a bank account. NO BANK ACCOUNT NEEDED. Stellar recently announced that the "Soroban Smart Contract" release date is January 30th, 2024. Just around the corner. It is currently live on the "Stellar Test Net". Every XLM wallet on the network receives a daily Twext from Salt's Giveaway bot. Like it or hate it, the official unofficial Stellar slogan is "Viva la Stellar!"

poops314

What are we doing? Basing monetary policy opinion on a bank chief’s son’s trading experience? What if he’d gained 60%, would that sway a BANK CHIEF’S opinion? Satire.

crypto_dood

The Binance app shows the message: Channel Maintenance Due to technical reasons of the channel, we are suspending the BANK TRANSFER (MAYMONADE) service. We will resume the service as soon as possible.

audigex

Is there a law against YOU sending money to the casinos or YOUR BANK sending money to the casinos? If the latter, it’s probably not illegal for you to bypass the restrictions on banks unless there’s specifically a law against that

LoudSoftware7528

"This is then broadcast over the network" Maybe if you read the sources that you post, you will understand that "I can send Bitcoin over ham radio" still means using THE INTERNET. Sure, I can use the first telegraph to buy Bitcoin. I can also use the first telegraph to make a bank transaction. BANK TRANSACTION ARE UNSTOPPABLE. What is your point?

telejoshi

This is actually (really) big. Right now it's for institutions but it's just the beginning. Here's the translated announcement from their website: >DZ BANK has launched a new platform for the settlement and custody of digital financial instruments. This makes the cooperative central institution one of the first banks to launch such a service for institutional clients based on blockchain technology. With a volume of over EUR 300 billion, DZ BANK is the third-largest custodian in Germany after BNP Paribas and State Street, and the largest among German custodians. > >"We assume that within the next ten years, a significant proportion of the capital market business will be processed via distributed ledger technology (DLT)-based infrastructures. In the medium term, we see DLT as a complementary technology to the established infrastructures in existing capital market processes," says Dr. Holger Meffert, Head of Securities Services & Digital Custody at DZ BANK. The bank has hired more than a dozen new employees in IT, operations and compliance to operate the new custody solution. > >The bank has been working with blockchain technology for years, and in 2022 it began setting up the digital custody platform for institutional clients. Here it will initially take crypto securities into custody. This includes a crypto bond from Siemens, which Union Investment and DZ BANK subscribed to six months ago and which has now been transferred to the bank's own custody. DZ BANK had previously been involved in the first external transaction of crypto fund shares of Bankhaus Metzler as a settlement agent and custodian. As both cases fall within the scope of the German Electronic Securities Act (eWpG), custody is already possible with the existing licenses. > >In order to enable institutional clients to invest in cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin in the future, DZ BANK applied for a crypto custody license from the German Federal Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin) in June. In parallel to the solution for institutional clients, the bank is working on an offering that will enable private clients to invest directly in cryptocurrencies. > >With the existing infrastructure, the bank is also in a position to actively participate in the exploration phase of the European Central Bank (ECB), in which the settlement of large-volume capital market transactions in central bank money is being tested.

maskci

it's obviously the next step in evolution, anybody who trashtalks crypto doesn't understand the financial system in the slightest, and either doesn't know too much about blockchain technology or doesn't know it's context on a macro level. not to mention the max potential here is always somehow misunderstood by those often paid off misinformants. &#x200B; *Let's start with the no-brainer:* if you find yourself in a life threatening situation that money can help you get out of... and your bank is down due to maintenance, revolut or any other tardfi company blocks or deletes your account, funds are frozen here or there... you or other people threatened by that circumstance are all dead. and only the tardfi is to blame for that... can't happen with crypto, ever. *Other reasons:* Decentralization with perfect code to run systems means the central parasitical entity in EVERY SINGLE COMPANY is overthrown by a selfless, human-less system. The management becomes perfect code either through ai or a system governing equally weighted user input; in other words, what previously was ran by greedy men exploiting all possible human resources, now becomes like breathing, like water circulation cycles around the globe. There is a corporate middle man between every transaction ( financial breathing, in and out ), parasiting off of people and creating fake money from the sky... without the middle man but with a perfect code-governed system, the CEO has to go, the BANK has to go, the fucking corp has to go. With blockchain AI would replace EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY those that have so much because of old money, connections, and other commie shit. Payments, verifications, safety precautions, company allocation of whatever resource, ai could do that and no human has to eat fat stacks of $$$ to do something like that, exploiting people on the way. \+ moving value across borders \+ storing info / value forever infinitely &#x200B; buddy... get more knowledge, only when it's all obvious then you can take a break! also, remember there's a war between centralized and decentralized systems any opinion in the markets against crypto is by people who make buck being on the opposite side whenever a normie bashes crypto please understand their whole life is supported by a paycheck of somebody who would go bankrupt had decentralization of their economic field taken place, they are heavily, deep in the system that pays them. the system hates decentralization. it's death of the system's governors.

Deep-Distribution779

is it possible that “CENTRAL American BANK” might possibly have an agenda in making Bukele and his BITCOIN agenda look bad?

Classic_Ad3154

Nuff Respect! If Your money is in Chase Bank but you can't spend or risk Your money as You see fit. CLOSE YOU CHASE ACCOUNT AND TELL THEM WHY IN WRITING! DEFUND CHASE BANK! DEFUND ANY AND EVERY BANK THAT TRIES TO CONTROL WHAT RISK YOU TAKE; WHILE HAVING YOUR MONEY IN THEIR ACCOUNT IS ACTUALLY A RISK THAT YOU TAKE! DEFUND CHASE BANK!

TarkovRedditor

Bloomberg Terminal: KRAKEN: RECEIVED AUTHORIZATION FROM CENTRAL BANK OF IRELAND AS AN E-MONEY INSTITUTION

Elegant_Tale_3929

Right, but because they are a BUSINESS and not a BANK there is a limitation on reclaiming that money. I believe it's around 6 months or so after that it gets a bit iffy in the US, at least, and their eligibility to reclaim that money. Australia might be different though.

teh_d3ac0n

Really awful way to learn you can't trust someone that his surname is a combination from the words BANK and MAN. &#x200B; Banksters in disguise.

atict

This isn't sitting on their balance sheet it means nothing. BANK HOLDS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS sounds dumb. Before some nut fuck says its an exchange and people shouldnt treat it like a bank lets live in reality people do and will continue to. Not only that it will be the go to for institutions to have a company like Coinbase or Galaxy custody their BTC.

Agree-Refuse-69

And THIS is how you DESTROY CENTRAL BANK SCAMMERS' holds on your country &#x200B; bravo The government controlled by IMF and CenBanks can LARP all it wants but PEOPLE set the REAL MARKET RATE

No-Tackle-8652

It definitely needs it scalability. Every app on Cardano shits the bed whenever there's a highly anticipated launch or meme coin. Recent examples are SNEK / BANK / whatever that options token was on Muesliswap.