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Planning to autoinvest 300usdt in these 7 coins every 2 weeks. Any toughts and advices much appreciated
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What narrative can bring the next major bull run before halving?
Which cryptocurrencies stand out in the field of artificial intelligence?
What's up with the AI tokens and which one is really worth for the next bull run in your humble and educated opinion? (AGIX, Fetch.AI, Ocean) - I really don't want to lose my money on mostly speculations and FOMO.
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Crypto AI coins - What is the hype all about and is it sustainable?
The hype around AI is as big as it has ever been.
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AGIX has been performing better than most lately, but it has just now showed up in the top gainers feed on CoinMarketCap. Is this because it has to be the top 100 to make it there?
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Let's talk business: Which is the IA project of this year?
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The AGIX ERC20 converter testnet is now live - IOHK Blog
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AGIX, FET and OCEAN all straight out of the gates with nearly 20% gains. ASI hype is real.
I don’t understand how but ocean seems to be underperforming AGIX and FET. Aren’t they all merging soon into ASI?
tldr; SingularityNET has partnered with Minswap Labs to enhance the decentralized finance (DeFi) ecosystem on the Cardano blockchain by integrating AI technology. This collaboration aims to improve user interfaces, transaction processes, and liquidity provision on Minswap using SingularityNET's AI capabilities. Additionally, it will increase the utility of SingularityNET's AGIX token within the Cardano ecosystem and explore new AI-DeFi products for the Web3 space. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
ABT, LCX, AERO, PNG, KAS, LandX, LayerAI, SeedFi, Jasmy or Fetch (merging with Ocean and AGIX soon, so one of those maybe but not all are 1:1)
0.433350 ASI per AGIX token and 0.433226 ASI per OCEAN token.
Bullish on ASI - the super intelligence alliance. FET, AGIX, and OCEAN will merge like an AI crypto transformer and pull a terminator on tradfi. Don't miss out. Dips are opportunities to get in top projects
Any idea what exchange is for AGIX and OCEAN?
tldr; The Artificial Superintelligence Alliance has confirmed a token merger set for early May, combining FET, AGIX, and OCEAN into a new ASI token. This follows community approval from Fetch.ai, SingularityNET, and Ocean Protocol. The merger aims to democratize AI infrastructure, challenging Big Tech's dominance in AI. The new ASI token will have a total supply of 2.63055 billion and is expected to be among the top 20 largest cryptocurrencies with a market cap of $7.5 billion. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
This is the way. I started using Koinly, and the trick is to review transactions to make sure it is keeping up with everything. I'm not an active trader, so I mainly do a monthly review to make sure it has all my staking rewards and the handful of transactions for buying/sending to my wallets. With Koinly, they generate the reports which I can upload directly if I use FreeTaxUSA and I dont have to manually enter ANY transactions (I wasn't able to do this on TurboTax or H&R Block, so if you're dedicated to those, idk what to tell you) It's also a pretty damn good Crypto Net Worth tracker and has support for smaller coins that other services lack (ex. ERG and Cardano Native Assets like WMT, AGIX, and so on) Bonus tip is that they also send out discounted offers, usually mid-year around August/September, so you can usually get it for 40-50% off standard price. I've been using it for 3 years now and have never had an issue, I couldn't recommend it enough.
Look into ASI. FET/AGIX/OCEAN merger.
Loaded up on AMP AGIX and ICP
What do you think about the future price action concerning FET/AGIX/Ocean to ASI? Did we have merging tokens before somewhere? My point is that with such a big MC and supply there wont be such profits as before/till end if March. What do you think?
Look into HIVE and IQ. Also SNT. I’ve been watching a few and I guess aside from the ASI merge tokens (FET/AGIX/OCEAN) and RNDR these look promising. I got a few more to research yet. Was looking into Golem and some others but their price action is balls rn. Could be good long term 🤷♂️
I’ve been looking into Hive and IQ. I’m already up like 600% on FET and AGIX and don’t really want to average up so I’m looking at things that no one is talking about yet.
Shilling both FET and AGIX shows you probably don’t understand what you hold.
AERO SOL SUI SEI NEAR FET AGIX For a for sure win. Get back to me in a year.
Both superb projects with great teams & in the hottest narrative going forward. Sam Altman believes GPUs will become the most precious resource on the planet. RNDR has a smaller market cap, compared to the soon to be ASI. I’ve owned RNDR, FET & AGIX for a good while now. Best bet diversify & own both, as which one has the greatest gains from here is impossible to say. Only thing to know is both will do exceedingly well this cycle.
RNDR & ASI (FET, AGIX & OCEAN) are the coins to have.. nobody buys Meme coins at $500+… TAO for this reason does not appeal to the large mass of retail buyers yet to come, whereas RNDR & ASI in the single digits, low double digits, are really appealing not only as great projects, but also at a great phycological price level…. Easier for most retail buyers to imagine a $5 coin going to $50… than a $500 coin going to $5000… (Even if the two projects have the same MC which mass retail buyers often overlook)
All three protocols that are merging are leaders in the AI narrative. So I don’t think it’s cope at this point. The timeline is pretty bullish on this as well. They’ll merge all three tokens into one AGIX.
Solid investment that will probably be worth a few hundred k if not a million a decade from now? Obviously BTC (and/or ETH). Speculative narrative play on crypto & AI that may result in a lot more profit than BTC this cycle? FET ... I think once it's merged with OCEAN and AGIX to be converted to ASI, we'll see a new top 10/20 token rapidly taking over, so probably at least a 5x in value. Moonshot 100x gamble of the cycle? AVI
If you are just taking it for a spin, you can just reverse the transaction. But WMT, AGIX and COPI would land you into RWA, AI and gaming narrative.
When I bought in, I went with AGIX based on the conversion rate and the prices at the time. Not advice. Interestingly, those 3 coins have been trending downwards since the announcement of the proposal. But I am bullish nonetheless and am using it as a chance to get in. I think if they merge, the anticipated longevity of the project(s) goes up. Voting to FET ends tomorrow April 7th. It ends for AGIX on April 16th. Keep your eyes on the dates. I’m excited for the build up! I’m trying to type up qualitative scenarios of what could happen. So many hypothetical scenarios. If FET vote passes then it could see a bump in price but then come back down before the merger. Unless most people don’t know ASI’s proposed intro price it could hover around that. However, I think trading volume for FET could be up as people move in and out around the ASI intro price. If trade volume decreases but stays near the conversion rate price, then it could signal a new level of stability that people anticipate within those coins or a perceived increase upon listing. I’m going to try and figure out, are the people buying it focused on the hype of the merger or if they believe in the technology, or both, or neither. How many people going in will know about the conversion rate? How many people will post on here saying “MY FET IS GONE!!! WHAT DO I DO?!? WHAT IS ASI ON MY ACCOUNT!! WAS I HACKED?!” 😂 If conversion rates are known, there is going to be a lot of build up to the merger. If it goes through, which I hope it does. I could see people dumping ASI upon listing as they make gains on the price gap from when they got in. Or if the prices for 3 coins hover above the conversion rate equivalent it’ll signal that people think ASI will boost past that intro price very quickly, before they have a chance to sell. Still if people dump, bullish sentiment will hop on buying the initial dip. My perspective says sentiment for ASI seems positive on the whole. So I think watching prices of the 3 around the merger will be a somewhat unique case study to follow along with. Qualitatively I think it’ll be a good way to gauge sentiment. It’s something really unique that’s happening imo. It could set a precedence for similar proposals or mergers going into the future. If it succeeds I’m interested to see if we find more power couples. I’m looking at and creating scenarios for 1) the price of each before and after each voting period 2) what the vote is 3) general sentiment on podcasts, YouTube, etc. 4) trading volume around the voting periods and leading up to the merger. 5) try to gauge the level of education that people trading these coins have. Mainly, do they get the technology? And I’m going to try and estimate what’s gonna happen at launch because more skilled and staked investors than I am will be able to execute trades before I can even open up an exchange. I’d tons of possibilities. I’d be interested to hear other peoples hypothetical scenarios or qualitative metrics. Mine are in no way fully encompassing of my thoughts, just tossing some things out there. For discussion.
The community is voting on switching FET, AGIX, and OCEAN all into a new coin with the ticker ASI. Each of the project independently realized they were outgunned in the AI space when competing against large tech like google and openAI. The proposal is to create an “alliance” so that all of them can have an increased chance of being relevant long term. Each focusing on different aspects of their vision. Somewhat like “my enemy is my enemy, but if we both have a shared enemy that can crush us both, then we share a common interest.” But I agree with you. I think they all will do well as ASI. The conversion rates are as follows. FET to ASI 1:1 OCEAN to ASI 1: 0.43 AGIX to ASI 1: 0.43 I don’t think we can talk price here but the starting price for ASI is public info. Using some basic math and the current prices of FET, OCEAN, and AGIX you can arbitrage and pick a best case path to get into what will become ASI. This is not financial advice. Just stating hypotheticals for the sake of discourse and fun :)
Nano(XNO), XMR, AGIX
Lol the downvotes. Well, for once, these projects have yet to amount to anything. This still seems like a money grab. Neither AGIX, FET and OCEAN have similarities between each other apart from them all being AI coins
Glad I listened to the one guy here in 2021 who shilled FET and AGIX. My portfolio is saved thanks to him, whoever he was.
I mean sure laugh if you want, but Ben from AGIX was already working on things like AGI and LLM in 2018 along with neural networks and had already thought of/explored/coined the ideas of Artificial General Intelligence and in his opinion Artificial Super Intelligence (A.I. that trains A.I. ) as early as the 1990s so it is a fitting name and he was on point with all of his predictions to date in 2024 from back then.
AGIX converts to ASI at a set ratio. There is no fees and it should be automatic on major exchanges. AGIX/Fet/Ocean cease to exist/trade after merge from everything I understand about this.
tldr; The text does not provide a summary of the Artificial Superintelligence (ASI) Alliance Vision Paper or its contents, focusing instead on procedural questions related to token mergers and exchanges for holders of $AGIX, $FET, and $OCEAN tokens. It addresses how these token holders can participate in the merger, exchange rates, and what actions they need to take, but does not detail the vision or goals of the ASI Alliance itself. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Ocean is most likely about to merge with AGIX and FET, and people who hold Ocean (and AGIX) are only going to get 0.43 ASI for every 1 Ocean. FET will be distributed 1 to 1. I'm bullish on this merger in the long run, but I don't know if I'd recommend buying Ocean rn
Can't tell much about REQ and FOR. VOXEL looked good when I looked at it, but looked expensive by then, might be worth revisiting. OCEAN is a monster, and a must have IMO. Specially after their anounced merger with FET and AGIX, there's now a clear market leader on AI, the same way that there's one in oracles with LINK. I also have been growing my interest on the Bitcoin L2 space with STX (Stacks) as an OG token worth revisiting and some cool emerging ones like BEVM and LBIT.
But the double supply makes up for the injection of AGIX and OCEAN? I’m still trying to figure it out
I cashed out my OCEAN, FET and AGIX because I don't like the merger. Anything else I can buy that's having a discount right now? Something top 100-200? And maybe some LTO? Come on, shill me!
I’m trading BTC, APT, SUI, OCEAN, FET, AGIX, GLM, ONDO, and JUP this cycle. Alts did 1000% last cycle. They’ve only done 100% this cycle. Wouldn’t expect BTC to go over 140k.
Just incase you are not in the know, AGIX, FET, OCEAN will merge to ASI. Ratio is still not clear to me. But besides AI trending, I also think BRC20 has also picked up a lot of momentum with projects like DOVI, LBIT, BEVM, etc in the limelight.
I got some VET but it’s underperforming compared to AGIX/FET
Okay, now that OCEAN, FET and AGIX are combining to become the crypto equivalent of the megazord (ASI), I need some fresh mid/low cap gems to gamble on. What are peoples thoughts on SEI, HIVE, IQ, ARB and SNT?
Would it be wise to sell your coins before the conversion to ASI? It seems that holding AGIX and Ocean is not as profitable as FET since the fixed 0.43 ratio related to FET but I could be wrong in my way of thinking.
Keep eyes on NuNet. They are a computing+AI division of AGIX. Spawned from their DAO. They will be working with all 3 companies. 37mil MC. Up 30% today. Available via Cardano DEX.
Keep an eye on NuNet Spawned from the Singularity DAO. Will be doing all the computing work for the new ASI coin teams (AGIX/FET/OCEAN) 37mil MC currently. Up 30% today. Available on Cardano Dex.
Not a AGIX FET and OCEAN. The merger is sending them skyward
It never left really. FET and AGIX weathered the dip admirably
Def just announced a merger with AGIX and OCEAN
Yeah ^ this. It will no longer be FET but ASI and it will have the combined market cap of AGIX, FET and OCEAN.
Yeah so if you have 10k usd in either Fet AGIX or ocean you will get the exactly same amount of ASI tokens
FET + Ocean + AGIX = ASI
>The first priority is to execute the token merge. The $FET token will be the reserve token of the Superintelligence Alliance. It will be renamed $ASI — ‘Artificial Superintelligence.’ >Holders of $OCEAN and $AGIX need not do anything right now. You can continue to hold your tokens without worry as the exchange rate between $FET/$ASI and $OCEAN is fixed to 0.433226 $ASI per $OCEAN and the 0.433350 $ASI per $AGIX. >Holders can choose to swap their tokens as soon as the token swap tool is available, or 10 years from now if they want to, at their leisure. The exchange rate will remain fixed. There is no rush.
From what I understand, FET will be converted into ASI 1:1 and if you keep your FET in an exchange it will happen automatically. OCEAN and AGIX will also be converted into ASI, but only at a 0.43 ratio. As far as I know, this hasn't been voted on yet. I think the final word will come in the next two weeks if it's actually going to happen, but I'm assuming it's pretty likely if they've told the public like this.
Thoughts about the merge between those? It feels like a big deal as a complete AI market leader. With such a big cap, it will be though to outperform though. Still processing the info myself (I hold AGIX and OCEAN).
*"Holders of $OCEAN and $AGIX need not do anything right now. You can continue to hold your tokens without worry as the exchange rate between $FET/$ASI and $OCEAN is fixed to 0.433226 $ASI per $OCEAN and the 0.433350 $ASI per $AGIX. Holders can choose to swap their tokens as soon as the token swap tool is available, or 10 years from now if they want to, at their leisure. The exchange rate will remain fixed. There is no rush."*
This is very bullish. $100bn market cap easy for the new ASI coin. A power move by FET AGIX & Ocean.
FET AGIX OCEAN confirmed merger. New ASI coin with different ratios for conversion... I did the math with my Ocean and at current prices I lose money on conversion...
Wait is this good or bad news if you own individual AGIX, FET & OCEAN tokens?
P&D on AI coins that aren't AGIX, OCEAN or FET
It surely is too! What are you into? I am glad I got some AGIX at a good price and I regret taking profits on FET which carry on growing... Also keen on AI used in improving Liquidity Pools like FluidAi and Dafi do.
Missing AGIX in that selection. Thing does not stop..
We have no idea… & that includes your assumption on the Alt coin cycle. Personally driven by the release of ChatGPT 5, SORA & the possibility of AGI within the next 18 months… AI alts coins will 🚀 RNDR - FET - AGIX - AKT - TAO & others.. will be the outstanding performers IMO
It will have a great run this cycle, I also hold AGIX AIOZ as other ai projects I think we'll do really well
Expecting people to put together shit here. But that Sir. Is an S Teir portfolio. For a bit more risk. I’d probably change it to. 25% BTC 25% ETH 20% RNDR 10% SOL 10% NEAR & the final 10% in FET AGIX & AKT…(3.33% each).. But equally can’t go wrong with your suggestion. Love it.
AGIX just because Ben Goertzel
I didn’t get my tax money UNTIL the top…. Shoveled all of it into alts only. Down on everything. If I would’ve had money a year ago to invest I would have 100%. Holding bags rn RENDR @ $11.26 IMX @$3.12 NEAR @$7.67 ILV @$1.42 EGLD $61.56 ICP $13.69 AGIX @ $1.25 Etc.
Yes that is correct. But i believe they plan to build a few projects. Such as Rejuv (RJV - [https://singularitynet.io/ecosystem/rejuve/](https://singularitynet.io/ecosystem/rejuve/)). "While building the foundations for AGI, SingularityNET is also bootstrapping an ecosystem of organizations that will fuel the platform with AI services and create massive utilization of the AGIX token." - https://singularitynet.io/ecosystem/
> No AGIX? I'm not familiar with this one. A very brief look at it seems to suggest that AGIX's SingularityNET is just a generous-purpose platform meant for other people to build AI. They're not the ones developing the AI products. They're just providing the blockchain for it. So its success really depends on what decides to build on it. The Roadmap is a bit concerning. Lots of updates in 2022, but it stops suddenly in Q1 2023. Either there's nothing planned for the future, or they just haven't updated this page. https://singularitynet.io/roadmap/
No AGIX? What's your take on that?
You got FET but where's RNDR? or AGIX?
Yes but some of us don't have the funds to make a 3 x back worth it 🤣 certainly not enough to buy half a bitcoin when 16 , wish I had shitloads to put into eth tbh as reckon that's next but here I am hoping on ADA , MATIC , AGIX etc. Not exactly shit memecoins but not the same stability......might just get that 20x though 😬🤣 I'm also new as fuck , as in new last year so could be talking out my arse but just how I see it 🤷
Thanks! what about AGIX?
Your list is missing AGIX and DIA. Although DIA is popularly known for being a data oracle, it's also under the AI/DATA category.
Should look at some AI coins such as RNDR, FET, AGIX, AR. May he sell the news event tomorrow with the nvidia conference so if there is a dip, may be a good entry.
Thanks… saved me posting the same… RENDER, FET, AKT, AGIX - all you need this bull….
AGIX, FET, RNDR are already top dogs. My next picks are HIVE and IQ because no one is talking about them yet.
I have 12 but I’m only deep in AGIX and FET. Most of them are double digit green today though so holding them all seems smart right now.
For such a long time frame, diversification would be the most important point to focus. As I am a relatively cautious investor I'd stick heavily into large caps, meaning 50-60% into Bitcoin and Ethereum, no others. With such amounts I'd stake Ethereum on chain. Then I'd allocateabout 30% into large caps, let's say 20! Would have to look into it properly to make a selection but surely would include Solana, Avalanche, ChainLink, VeChain, Polkadot, Injective, etc. Would stake everything I could here too. It's important to keep in mind that from these coins, most likely in 10 years many maight go to zero, or close to it. Everyone should remember EOS, the most promising ETH killer 5-6 years go. Finally the remaining 10% or so, I'd go into small caps, with high risk and high moonshot potential, whith HUGE diversification, let's say 100 coins! I'd surely add up the coins that I've been looking into recently like URUS, BAND, DIA, ORDI, DAFI, AGIX, etc. Here 90% or more of the tokens should go to zero or close to it oin 10 years time, but the survivoes surely should have exploded and compensated the losses of all the others. I gues that for a set & forget strategy this would be the one, with just more thought needed when it comes to pick the whole token list, but the percentages would be something like this for sure.
>Took my ADA and invested it in Cardano Native Tokens.. AGIX up 320% last 30 days, WMT up 80% last 30 days Iagon up 80% last 30 days, NuNet up 122% last 30 days, OrcFact up 30% last 30 days, LQ up 30% last 30 days, COPI up 40%.... Bravo!!!
I went against the naysayers.. invested in CKB and COTI since I was holding ADA. Both up 300-400% 🤷♂️ Took my ADA and invested it in Cardano Native Tokens.. AGIX up 320% last 30 days, WMT up 80% last 30 days Iagon up 80% last 30 days, NuNet up 122% last 30 days, OrcFact up 30% last 30 days, LQ up 30% last 30 days, COPI up 40%....
Actually my portfolio just hit a new ATH thanks to AGIX and FET recovery.
AGIX also looks like it has potential
If you're looking for a "lower" cap AI coins I would check out ROSE, OCEAN, AGIX
I mentioned NTX on here yesterday and it's gone up 27% since. Basically it's a decentralized computing project and part of the ecosystem from AGIX which has become a top AI coin lately. I'm thinking people might start to filter into the other projects by AGIX team eventually as the MC grows and people look for lower MC coins
Peoples opinions on CorgiAI? I’m trying to hold a new coin or 2 and decided I want to go for AI based ones. Iv already dipped my toes in AGIX and AIOZ, which fortunately was at a good time and gave me some nice gains that I can skim off and diversify more. I know it’s in its infancy and I don’t consider it as strong as the other 2 Iv mentioned at present, but I think it may be worth a gamble. Opinions?
NuNet: 47mil MCap. Born out of the Singularity DAO (AGIX) It's a DePinn play of AI + Computing. Currently only available on Cardano Dex. Currently up 30% over the last 90 days. Iagon: 101MCap. Decentralized storage DePinn. Rumored Tier 1 listing coming soon. Over 1mil Voluke per day. Currently only available on Cardano Dex. Currently up 60% over the last 90 days. CKB: PoW work coin. Up substantially for the year on news of BTC L2. Only room to keep going up as the team continues to build and release the final product COTI: After working on designing Ergo and Cardano algorithmic stable coin the team shifted to building an L2 for Ethereum. Using a method called 'Garbled Circuits' COTI successfully built a L2 which will be privacy focused. Up substantially on this news, but still lots of room to grow as the team continues to build and release the final product. Cardano: trust me bro 😎
I held AGIX for years, bought at .04. Sold my bag at .55 literally two days before the current pump. Had to pay off debt.
I bought a tiny amount of AGIX and FET around the same time. FET 10x, AGIX 8x.
AGIX has been the strongest for me over time.
NTX, part of the network of AI coins associated with AGIX, but it is still small
Add in some dot it’s not going away and it’s great tech. It’s solid. Lol I just bought render a couple weeks ago it’s rolling. I’m going to find another AI crypto to go with to hedge my bets I’m thinking AGIX.
It'll be a money printing machine this cycle, AGIX too I bet
Alot of chains say ai to pump their bags as they know that will be a major narrative but apart from FET, AGIX and Render (only because of Nvidia GPUs) there is no real ainplaybin the top 100
Tbh I think any in the top 1-150 is fine, those are probably the ones that are gonna pump the most short term due to retail investors because they're available in most exchanges. So can't go wrong with any of: RNDR, FET, AGIX, OCEAN, AKT, ROSE, TRAC. The last two pumped a bit less and have a smaller market cap so I'd get a heavier bag on those but I think you can pretty much go for whatever.
BTC, ETH, ALGO, AGIX (old bag running nicely now)
I have been thinking FET is too big to grow for months, and here we are. Same for RNDR, AGIX, OCEAN. I am pretty happy with my AI bag but I might have made more if I invested in bigger names lol
Pssst.. I have tons of ADA in Cardano Defi earning. I use ADA to swap on Cardano dex for Iagon (up 90% last 90 days) AGIX (up 300% last 90 days) Nunet, WMT, etc.. all making +50% Why do I need memes? CKB and COTI have alone given me +400% gains the last 90 (Both partners with B-tier Cardano 😆) DYOR and you don't need memes.
I'll let you do your own research, but the ones I follow closely are : FET, RNDR, AGIX, GRT Usually when AI coins pump (like right now), they all pump, so short term you can't really go wrong