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What if satoshi was just an ASI that the government put in place and we will never know that they have ASI
Quantum computing is as close as ASI; neither will happen any time soon. They don’t scale like any classical system. More components added means more noise and more errors, not just more productivity.
And ASI has always “been around the corner”. These systems don’t scale like people think. You can’t just add more compute and get to ASI just like you can’t simply add more qubits and break encryption.
The whole MLOps stack has decentralized alternatives. Here is an example stack with traditional and decentralized options: 1.) Data collection -> Traditional: s3, google cloud, azure, apache kafka etc... Decentralized: Ocean, filecoin (IPFS), streamr (or just ASI nowadays) 2.) Preprocess/analysis data -> Traditional: Jupyter, databricks... Decentralized: ASI + Bittensor + Akash hosting 3.) Model training -> Traditional: PyTorch, TensorFlow... Decentralized: Bittensor or [fetch.ai](http://fetch.ai) for the actual training + Render or IO for GPU compute. 4.) Model deploy -> Traditional: Kubernetes/SageMaker... Decentralized: ASI/Fetch.ai on Akash 5.) Model monitoring -> Traditional: Prometheus + Grafana... Decentralized: on-chain provenance aka zk + ocean or just ASI These are not all the MLOps steps, like there is also data labeling and model re-training, but these concepts require manual labor not tooling. You are basically leveraging DePIN to build DeAI workflows.
Absolute facts. AI/ASI: •Could: create genuine utopia on Earth; end war, disease, famine, provide high UBI, propel us into the stars! •In actuality: likely going to result in technofeudalist society, where the wealthy have extreme and excess access to the greatest of all things - while people simultaneously starve in the streets in increasingly higher numbers.
Wrong. the US goal in Iran is to seize the global oil spigot. Venezuela in January -> Iran in February. Neutralize every supply channel outside the dollar system within 90 days. Achieve a compliant successor government and complete energy dominance. The oil thesis was the obvious layer. However, when you zoom out & view the last four years as a single sequence rather than isolated geopolitical events, the architecture of the grander US plan becomes visible. 1st was Europe, which laid the groundwork. The Ukraine conflict provided the justification for sanctions that collapsed Russian pipeline gas from 150 billion cubic meters to 40. Then Nordstream was destroyed, which rewired the entire European energy system permanently. The US went from supplying 28% of Europe's LNG in 2021 to 58% by 2025, exporting a record 111 million MTs, the 1st country in history to break 100 MT. Europe was transformed from a customer with options into a captive market now purchasing its survival in USD. 2nd was Syria. The fall of Assad severed the critical node connecting China's Belt & Road Initiative to the Mediterranean. The trilateral railway linking Iran, Iraq & Syria, designed to bypass Western maritime chokepoints, was completely destroyed. This isolated Iran geographically & cleared the path for what came next. 3rd was Venezuela. In January the US effectively took control of the world's largest heavy crude reserves. The US Gulf Coast has the most advanced refining complex on earth, specifically built for heavy sour crude. Phillips 66, Valero & the rest are now positioned to process hundreds of thousands of barrels of Venezuelan crude daily. The US captured a massive strategic reserve & solidified its position as the dominant exporter of refined petroleum products, an industry worth $110 billion in 2025 alone. Venezuela & Iran were the two major oil supply channels that existed outside the dollar system. Both produce heavy crude sold primarily to China & evaded US financial supervision. Both now being neutralized within 90 days, which leads us to.. 4th is Iran & the Middle East energy shock. Israel struck Iran's South Pars gas field, the world's largest natural gas reservoir. Iran retaliated against Qatar's Ras Laffan, the single largest LNG facility on earth, responsible for a fifth of global supply. QatarEnergy's own assessment is that 17% of export capacity is gone and recovery will take up to 5 years. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. European gas prices spiked 70%. Asian spot prices doubled. The only remaining scaled supplier? The United States. If Iran falls & a successor government is installed that the US controls or influences (the Delcy model described weeks ago) then roughly 40 to 45 million barrels per day of global production out of 103 million is effectively under US control. OPEC becomes irrelevant because the US coalition is now the marginal producer. Now add the gas dimension & it goes beyond oil. This war is solidifying the petrodollar system as it evolves into a hybrid petro/LNG-dollar. The old system was built on Saudi crude priced in USD. The new system is built on American crude plus American gas from the Gulf Coast, with no alternative supplier of comparable scale. The dependency is deeper because LNG infrastructure requires long term contracts & regasification terminals that lock buyers into supply relationships for decades. Europe & the Pacific allies (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.) cannot pivot away as there is nowhere left to pivot to. They're now locked into the US energy system. The market confirms this. DXY went from 96 to 101. Gold down ~20% from its January all time high. Bitcoin down 20% on the year. Brent above $100. European & Asian institutions are liquidating precious metals and crypto to buy dollars because they need dollars to buy the only remaining scaled energy supply. The world is selling its gold to buy American energy in American currency. The dollar is now being weaponized through energy dependency. The structural repricing is happening regardless of how the conflict resolves. But the US grand strategy goes deeper.. Artificial intelligence is a physical industry. It runs on power and chips. Data centers require massive uninterrupted baseload electricity, primarily provided by natural gas. Semiconductor fabrication requires helium & rare earths. By choking the Strait of Hormuz & crippling Middle Eastern LNG & helium production, the US is systematically degrading China's ability to power its data centers & fabricate semiconductors at scale. The US is energy self sufficient, especially with newly captured Venezuelan reserves & expanding Gulf Coast capacity running on domestic gas. On the other hand, China is import dependent & every joule it imports effectively now transits chokepoints the US Navy controls.. Iran was the Belt & Road's overland energy bypass, the corridor that allowed China to mitigate the Malacca Trap. With Iran neutralized that corridor is severed. China faces a world where its compute infrastructure competes for scraps on a depleted global LNG market, while American data centers run at full capacity on domestic energy. Russia is next in the sequence. A post-war Iran reopening under US influence competes directly with Russia for the same refineries in China & India at lower cost. Iran's production costs are lower. Russia loses its last structural advantage in heavy crude & its economic lifeline. Additionally, under the Iran war cover, Ukraine has been opportunistically destroying Russian energy infrastructure & all signs point towards Russia being at the end of the line. The message from Washington becomes very simple: we dismantled two regimes in three months, your economy is about to get crushed, sign the Ukraine deal. Then Trump sits down with Xi holding every card. Complete energy dominance. The hybrid petro/LNG-dollar fortified, Iran cleared, Russia cornered, & China facing the Malacca Trap fully closed with no remaining energy bypass. Israel & the GCC are absorbing the kinetic cost of a conflict whose primary beneficiary, counter to the mainstream narrative, is actually America (First). Qatar offline for 5 years reprices the entire global gas market in favor of US exporters for the remainder of the decade. The Gulf states face years of rebuilding. Europe faces its 2nd energy crisis in four years. Sure, the average American might face temporary moderate inflation & higher gas prices. But if you are the architect of the US empire & you view the rise of China & Chinese ASI as an existential winner takes all scenario, the collateral damage is acceptable cost. Whoever controls the energy corridors controls the monetary system. Whoever controls the monetary system & the energy supply simultaneously controls the compute infrastructure that determines which civilization builds ASI first. The US is seizing all 3.
Singular trade, making like +1300% on FET during the FET/ASI hype.
I think retail hasn't had as much disposable income as they did in 2020&2021, so crypto (outside of Bitcoin) hasn't had as much interest this cycle. I think quantum computing as a threat to only Bitcoin and Crypto isn't a justified concern. If Bitcoin is cracked by quantum computing, I'd suspect there would be bigger concerns across all other industries that use computers. Quantum computing feels similar to the AGI/ASI hype of AI
Another teacher here. Ive had conversations like the one you propose with my students (uni-prep) almost every day since A.I started becoming as common as TikTok in the academic industry, you do not have much to worry about if you use the tools at your disposal, commercial A.I is nothing to be afraid of, but alot to be excited about. People will not be replaced by A.I itself in most industries, but people who use A.I will replace almost everyone in most industries. We have a few years (hopefully) before commercial robotic embodiment of ASI entities. We will likely get access to ASI (super intelligent) agents long before then. Even then, we will need engineers to maintain the infrastructure, hence, I have literally classes that are full of kids that want to study every avenue of engineering possible. The reality is that we are still a type zero civilization. You couldn't have been born at a better time you're literally now as a young adult at the precipice of options you couldn't imagine that people in the future will look back at and go (fuck they were so damn lucky and they didn't even know). You have more hope than you realize and exponentially more than anyone in the past ever has or in the future ever might. Consider yourself super lucky. Regarding Bitcoin, buy a little here and there and forget aboutit, it will grow, just don't FOMO during the pumping season.
5-20 years is a ridiculously large range in the age of AI. ASI comes first and once it does anything becomes possible. For me this is the best rational for the 4 year cycle ending, what happens between this halving and the next could change everything.
The ASI Project (Fetch.ai) is my pick. They sit at the intersection of AI and Blockchain. Veteran AI team from deep mind (now google). If this was a public stock it would be worth 10x its current market cap. Launching autonomous AI payment agents in January. Massively undervalued, Buy,buy,buy
IMO, $FET (fetch.ai / ASI ). is the most undervalued project on the market. Solid AI veteran team, agentic AI and blockchain vision. If this was a public stock, it would be worth 10x what it is now.
tldr; Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin dismissed the narrative of a U.S.-China arms race for Artificial Superintelligence (ASI), arguing that claims of China's determination to dominate ASI are overstated. He engaged in a debate on social media, countering concerns that a U.S. pause in AI development would cede leadership to China. Buterin highlighted China's challenges, including hardware shortages due to U.S. export controls, and proposed a 'pause button' for AI supercomputers during critical moments instead of a moratorium on AI development. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
FET - ignore the Ocean smoke screen, ASI is showing they're able to get access to high performance GPUs, and the project has some serious funding, infrastructure, and brains behind it. They're going for a vertically integrated decentralized Ai stack and I don't see anything else out there like it. If you REALLY want some risk/reward for maximum leverage, TRNR. They're positioning as a FET treasury and there's a lot of FUD around it. I'm pretty confident they've still got roughly 40M FET tokens, but the trick is to enter in small chunks or try to time your entry (good luck) because they've been shorting and diluting the pants off it. But do the math, $5M market cap holding 40M of a token that's like 10 to 15x below it's ATH. It's like they're building the bones of a manufactured meme stock. The investors behind this have some serious money, coupled with ASIs ability to acquire Big Boy Nvidia GPUs, the ability to buy compute on those GPUs with the tokens, and their professional grade development base and infrastructure, I think it is one of the best deep value plays out there. Of course, you have to ask why it's "undervalued" because there's no free lunch. The best answer I have for why it's so cheap is that the Ocean dispute is manufactured drama to keep the price low for accumulation. It just doesn't make sense to me that a project being taken this seriously would have such a public bitch fit while they continue to build the rails and secure contracts (one of them being with Telegram for fucks sake lmao)
This is what you can ask AI and get to perfect result. Even better, you can collect data on cryptos from, lets say CMC or coingecko, and just query that using chatgpt. I used chatgpt to build a very nice indicator that signals a buy on cryptos when prices are down and sell when they are up. But ofcus, using other indicators as well confirms a lot of stuff. TLDR; just saying you can get whatever data you need using chatgpt. However, after answering your questions, I think we are all over complicating trading cryptos. If you just traded it like you are trading stocks. For instance, you want AI on the stock market, you pitch for NVIDIA, in the crypto space, AIOZ, OCEAN, ASI would be alternatives. Buy, HODL, sell when it appreciates and you'll be good. That's a stress free way to trade cryptos.
Post is by: veldmaarschalkje and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1oskhdf/yolo_fet_ocean_having_a_messy_divorce_and_im/ So apparently two of the biggest “AI” crypto” projects “FET and Ocean Protocol, decided to merch earlier this year and create some giga brain thing called Artificial Superintelligence Alliance (ASI). Yeah, sounds cool right? Synergy, decentralization, buzzwords, basically everything that gives a crypto nerd a stiffy haha. Fast forward to what happened and now: They’re suing the shit out of eachother. Like actually lawsuits. Apparently Ocean was supposed to join the alliance, got a mountain of FET tokens, and then dumped them faster than my ex dumped me after I bought Dogecoin at the top😹 So FETCH got mad like a wild dog, called their lawyers, and now everyone’s pointing fingers at eachother. Ocean said, “nah bro, it was part of the deal”. FETCH said, “cap”. And the community is sitting here watching the charts fall off a cliff. Now everyone’s like “ai crypto is dead.” Nah bro. That’s exactly what they said earlier about GameStop before it went nuclear. Here’s what’s really happening: Fetch got punched, sure. But it’s still standing. The devs are building, the AI hype isn’t going anywhere, and half of crypto twitter secretly wants to see them pull a comeback bigger than GME in 2021! I don’t care if my wallet is bleeding. I don’t care if Ocean dumped on us. I’m still here, holding my bags like a proud idiot, whispering myself every night: “WE RIDE THE TRAIN OR WE DIE TRYONG” Charts looks ugly? Don’t care. New looks bad? Don’t care. This ain’t nothing. I’ll be the guy that when FETCH AI recovers, screaming in the comments “told you”, while eating ramen out of a FET branded cup. Buyyyyyyyyyy *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
This project seems really impressive. I have questions about the tokenomics and anything causing strong downward pressure on the token price. But I beliebe you have just announ ed a partnership with Fetch ASI? Thats a positive for me. But there is something amiss in your socials and putting off potential people in the way I have experienced is really odd. So I am confused what to make of it.
Rebrands almost never work out. FTM/SONIC MATIC/POL FET+OCEAN+AGIX/ASI
One of my biggest wins was never swapping any of my OCEAN tokens when ASI merge started. It definitely was a lesson in patience. I learned a new skill and now waiting for some major price action again.
no bro, it's completely F\* useless coin in the grand scheme of pump the bags narrative compared to meme coins and BTC. how is ARB going to monitor Eth that anyone truly cares about? great project, great technology, great science, and great in depth research with brilliant minds attempting to tokenize governance ... BUT ... it's got no F\* NARRATIVE, absolutely zero community interest, except getting rugged when market conditions are spiraling downwards. I used to be a believe in blue chip stuff, but after seeing what happened to RENDER and ASI (Fetch), and even XRP rugs, I'm convinced ARB is just another bullshit coin that will go to zero dot zero when the market hits the crash of crashes for 2025-2027.
Twice a day? That's still frequent. :) I put my patience to the test with the ASI token merge. I was against Ocean Protocol joining the Alliance and, since they opened swaps indefinitely, I decided to wait a bit with full bag of tokens that started losing value. I still decided to hold my huge bag because the swaps were not chained to price. A year later or something, Alliance is broken, sht hit the fan and guess what? The only project that will survive is actually Ocean Protocol and they continued with independent work plus the token is pumping again. Patience is important and is important to know where are you investing and why. Patience is definitely a skill in this space. Just take a look at the BTC chart and everything becomes perfectly clear for those who want to see.
Ocean Protocol's governance and communication has been a mess since the ASI merger drama. The subreddit lockdown you're seeing is probably damage control because the community is pissed about how the whole thing was handled. The merger with Fetch and SingularityNET into ASI was supposed to create this unified AI token ecosystem but it fell apart because the governance structure was unclear and the communities couldn't agree on direction. Ocean basically got absorbed then spat back out without a clear plan forward. Our clients who track DeFi and data marketplace projects stopped paying attention to Ocean after the merger chaos because the value prop got diluted. The data tokenization concept was interesting but the execution has been sloppy and the token economics never really made sense at scale. The radio silence from the team is the biggest red flag. When crypto projects go quiet after major drama it usually means internal issues or they're trying to figure out what to do next. Either way you're holding a bag while they sort their shit out. Whether to hold depends on your cost basis and risk tolerance. If you're down big already might as well hold and see if they can salvage something. If you're breaking even or up, taking profits probably makes sense given the uncertainty. Don't expect transparency anytime soon based on their track record. The data marketplace idea isn't dead but Ocean's implementation has too many problems. There are other projects doing similar stuff with better teams and clearer vision.
Real Talk, can you imagine the predictive ability of a Quantum System running ASI... Scary... And most people can't even fathom the depth of what it even means... Even all the followers and supporters of these systems think it will benefit them and not a new Empire
Biggest failure fusion I ever saw is ASI. Men before that fusion FETCH was ripping it.
I’m gonna jump into OCEAN, definitely. This exit from the ASI Alliance will turn out to be a great move.
RIP ASI token. I’ve seen stronger alliances in the Galactic Senate.
The merge was done cause all these companies were broke. After the run they had, you can be sure that their treasuries are full again. That's also why the ASI coin felt into the abyss
Let's see if that ASI coin becomes apart of the AI hype again.
This has been a semi scam from the start. Started off as SingularityNET, and the founder is just a grifter. Then Charles boy realized his network had zero activity, so Cardano made a deal to SingularityNET to migrate to Cardano. Then they rebranded to ASI or whatever, and "merged" with a bunch of other shitcoins. And now it's a shitcoin that's stranded on a blockchain with no acitivity or liquidity, for a product that is speculative at best.
You guys saw the news that Ocean Protocol resigned from ASI Alliance? I liked the market reaction when then news hit this morning.
ASI is out of top 100! The merge did them bad.
My favorite AI-related project is Ocean Protocol. Mostly because their Compute-to-Data and their approach to privacy, ownership and monetization of data. I also like all ASI Alliance projects, Fetch.ai, SingularityNET and Cudos.
For me, Ocean Protocol and the whole ASI Alliance right now... Phase 2 of nodes is coming, it's a whole new dimension of decentralization, and if it's as successful as phase 1 it will be a very big asset to the project for adoption.
wtf should fetai hodlers do if exchabge aint doing the second phase of migration is $ASI. should i just do it myself now? or wait till after q4 and 2026? lookin for fet to return to $2 and sell it then buy asi after we enter bear. but if we get delayed i wanna have $asi going into 2026
BTC is the smart play if you are looking for long-term investments. Imo, there are also other great long term plays with projects like Chainlink. My long-term play is definitely ASI Alliance and all the projects that are included. Ocean Protocol, Fetch.ai, SingularityNET and Cudos are nailing it when it comes to tech development. AI and data are important subjects and they managed to solve couple of bottlenecks already. Do not buy memes, that is not something you should count on when it comes to long-term gains.
It is long way to go but it's better to position now in projects like Ocean Protocol and Fetch.ai than to be late. I like how they are developing so far and can't wait to see the full potential behind ASI Alliance and all projects included.
Explain what Ocean (now a part of ASI, that ocean?) is doing for mining?
Don't check ChatGPT for that. I'd rather use Ocean Protocol's ASI Predictoor.
If we are really on the cusp of ASI & automated everything these are all rookie numbers.
$FET is the token of the ASI project. They are at the cross roads of AI and blockchain. Can't think of a better place to invest. I think it is massively undervalued when compared to traditional centralized AI companies. No brainer! (not financial advice).
> This would happen if they inflate the money supply I don’t think the US will create Zimbabwean levels of hyperinflation. More likely ASI (Artificial Superintelligence) could cause GDP growth to reach insane levels of 100% p/a. We’re talking doubling the GDP every year as AI solves all the problems and robots are building so much stuff. Only then does it make sense that Bitcoin is going to $1bn per coin in a few decades. But only if quantum resistance can be implemented.
Also, check out Ocean Protocol and their ASI Predictoor. Great AI tool for predicting the market and earn from the correct predictions.
Do you use Ocean(ASI) Predictoor as a trader?
AGI / ASI / Quantum AI / Time Travel
AGI/ASI may disrupt bitcoin in that timeline.
A little boom? Bro you had 10x minimum. I think ASI / fetch will be the big winner still. Sold the top and trying to decide if now is time to buy back, or if BTC is gonna dip and take everything lower still.
I am still into ASI Alliance just because of the Ocean Protocol. Their tech makes the most sense.
There’s very few good ai projects out there. ASI being one of them.
We have incomes for now, til ASI takes over :)
Trusting ChatGPT when you have Ocean Protocol and its ASI Predictoor tool is just ignorant.
Your curiosity and your willingness to navigate into those topics and the fact that you express concerns, indicates you are a very smart person. I encourage you to dive deeper into those topics, and I can almost guarantee it will be a fascinating journey for you. I don't have just one source, but rather spatial sources. But by having interest you can find many information online. You can search by keywords about: AI, AGI, ASI and then about post-scarsity world. If you are not familiar with those terms, I highly recommend to start a discussion with ChatGPT and ask things about them, letting it explain to you simply. This could change your view about our world. You see we are into the Bitcoin sub, but we are talking about other topics. If you go at the top level of our discussion, I tried to make people realize how those changes could affect Bitcoin. People discard those ideas by saying "AI won't hack the Blockchain". People can't grasp the idea that something outside of cryptocurrency world can make the whole concept to become redundant.
You say ASI is a widely accepted theory. What is the source for the theory that you have accepted? Is there a book or research paper that you refer to?
Could you explain to me what you mean by saying "source for ASI"?
I am listening to those XRP talks for a while now. It's not that mighty after all. I can't say what will happen in a long run but I can say that earning from short-term crypto price predictions is really interesting. Check out ASI Predictoor if you think that you are good at it and you won't have to chase dips anymore.
First let me explain that this is not "my utopia". It s is a widely accepted theory and widely explored theory, it has scientific explanations underneath. I understand your concerns. But let me give you some extra context around it. The main question is: How can we land into that utopia? First we need to answer the following question: "Do we -as humans- control the ASI"? \- If people control the ASI (less likely), then in order to land into that utopia, we need the ASI to be aligned with our values and the "leaders" (people) to be aligned too. \- If an ASI is uncontrollable by humans (highly likely) then it is only needed to be aligned with our values. That brings us closer to the utopia. (The alignment of AI can be done only by us, people) The main threat is ourselves, the humans. Elite people who are against average people, and average people who are against AI (that in fact can eliminate the greediness of the elite people).
I interpret "post scarcity" to mean that Maslow's hierarchy of needs are met at the physiological level (Food, shelter, clothing) which is great. The level of Safety is yet to be determined by our future AI overlords, or the people with asymmetric control of AI. The third level and beyond: Love and Belonging, Esteem and Self-Actuation are higher needs that I remain very skeptical will be met in a post-scarcity world. Yet these needs will be longed for by people. I do think we will enter a golden era, especially with sound money like Bitcoin. Benign ASI sounds great in your utopian theory. But in practice, we have seen that power corrupts.
Let's suppose that an ASI can't create truffles (which I highly disagree with that statement, but let's go for it because that's not the main point). In a post-scarcity world, scarcity like this becomes social, not economic. If only 10 truffle dishes can exist, and 1,000 people want one, then what could possibly happen? Maybe the chef chooses who gets them, maybe through a lottery, personal connection, reputation, or artistic intent. Maybe people value the story and context, not just the taste, and so those 10 dishes become events, experiences. Maybe an alternative way emerges, meaning an AI might simulate flavor, but people may still seek the real thing for authenticity. The main takeaway is: True scarcity becomes **a cultural moment**, not a commodity. The value shifts from “**owning**” to “**experiencing**.”
I am trying not to spread too thin but also I am not in one coin only. Yeah, my biggest bag is BTC and it will probably stay like that. I have some nice bags of SOL and AIOZ as well but speaking of utility, I got stuck with Ocean Protocol and what they are offering. I am using ASI Predictoor almost daily to make some extra gains. There are many good things out there but you gotta find the balance. At least I am trying to do so.
My suggestion would be Ocean Protocol, especially if you are looking for projects with long-term vision. They are dealing with data safety/privacy and they have a bunch of AI tools that you can use for development or to make some extra money. As a part of the ASI Alliance, their potential is huge.
why should they? I mean ICP maxis are constantly talking about the deployment of dapps "on chain "aspect of the network and Caffeine\`ai..Ok, great but even if that makes ICP an advantage vs other Web3 AI chains e.g. Hedera, Near, ASI, Bittensor.etc ICP is competing with GIANT web2 companies like Google,Microsoft, Open AI, Anthropic, Meta who are spending 10's of BILLIONS in cap ex. ICP probably spends $100 million max.
I don't believe a word of this, but as I understand it, it's not about taking money away, it's about using ASI and robotics to do away with the need to work. Everything will be, more or less free. I have no idea how that's supposed to be possible.
I think ASI within even 10 years let alone 2 is a tad optimistic. Even when (if?) ASI is achieved, consider that first it will be in the western world and with western values. ASI does not necessarily equate to some ‘supreme and benevolent entity’. In other words, it ain’t gonna feed the world and ensure global peace etc. Maybe eventually, but I think that depends more on us humans than an ASI itself. But, I agree there is some possibility that human society will progress, with or without ASI, to a point like Star Trek say. Everyone has what they need, mostly what they want too. But that timeline may be way off and actually in the 22nd millennium at earliest!
Fetch.ai (ASI) and Injective Protocol
Have you tried ASI-1 Mini? It's made by ASI Alliance, I am sure that you are familiar with the core projects of the alliance. Fetch.ai, Ocean Protocol and SingularityNET are a beasts when it comes to tech and development. Give it a chance.
ASI is going to lead to GDP growth in the double to triple digit range. As that happens, gold and BTC (and stocks) should reach new highs. 100% GDP growth every year could see Bitcoin reaching $21m per coin.
I think I agree with most of what you are saying. I'm a graduate with a master's degree in Nanotechnology. Everything I've learned throughout grad school has shown me two major things. First, we don't even remotely know what's possible yet- we have research going into countless new fields and nanotech extends into everything from materials science to healthcare to energy production and beyond. So we can't know what will happen or when just yet. The second thing I learned is that we have revolutionary new technologies available to us that greatly expedite the process of doing things like prototyping and generating new methods for synthesis of novel materials (I'm not even talking about AI yet - this is human intelligence), and things like sheets of molybdenum disulfide and various other quasi-2-dimensional materials (like graphene) will definitely have applications that we can't fathom as possible yet, like filtering saltwater without high input of energy and creating more powerful computer processors beyond the silicon chip era, for some examples. So new tech is going to exponentially increase in occurrences over time. I would say that you are correct, it will be a huge and energy-intensive task to generate and use ASI, but I wanted to chip in to just say this: I think that humanity can definitely achieve that soon with the tech we have developing today. Bitcoin is itself a testament to the fact that humanity is learning that great levels of both energy production and also logistical control of that energy (for efficient use) are paramount to the success of our species. I don't think cold fusion is realistic, but I could be wrong. Additionally, as I said previously, there are a lot of novel synthetic methods currently under research that will allow us to generate materials that help us to do things like generate and efficiently use a lot of energy. In spite of that, I still don't see a future where Bitcoin has no value. I think it will always have value, unless something catastrophic happens, which I don't think is likely anytime soon.
Yeah that’s the weakness that you and all those “AI experts” are showing right now. You think it’s just as simple as getting AGI and then the next step is ASI linearly afterwards. The power needed to run ASI or even AGI is exponentially higher than what we achieve now. We can’t even define intelligence…how are we supposed to create it? All the “AI” that we have now is only trained on knowledge we have, there’s no creative thought. At best, it can recognize patterns. We’re far away from actual intelligence. Building ASI will require a level of cooperation between nations that no one is capable of at the moment. And if it is just one nation that figures it out first….well it won’t be free and unlimited, that’s for sure. Even when the ASI figures out how to make this “unlimited free energy”, ***people still have to make it***. It will be a very long time until energy is free and unlimited.
Humans one biggest weakness is we think linearly and cannot think exponentially. All of the world's leading Ai experts estimate AGI is within 3-6 years, and ASI within 20 years. The first AGI will help train the next AGI which will help train the next and so on until you have a team of AGI's doing 50 years of Ai R&D in a span of 1 year to reach ASI.
You’re vastly underestimating how close we are to ASI. We don’t even have AGI yet. Even when we do get to ASI, the power requirements will be insane even just to power it for 5 minutes.
You vastly underestimate how smart artificial super intelligence (ASI) will be. They will be a billion times smarter than Einstein and will be discovering Nobel winning breakthroughs in science everyday. Cold fusion? Done, now you can create a near unlimited source of energy. Room temperature superconductors? Done, now you can transport energy without any loss of energy. Nanotechnology that can reorganize any material into any other material? Done, now you can build whatever you want made out of whatever you want. Not to mention any other breakthroughs humans can't even conceive of yet.
There is no top because technological breakthroughs like AGI, ASI, and robotics will continue to accelerate efficiency and increase deflation. Bitcoin is just the measuring stick.
100%. There's gonna be a club...ASI, And humans who have Bitcoin. I pray for everyone else....
It is true the Fiat is withering away. However no one seems to consider what it's going to be transforming into. The genius bill just signed last week will eventually transform all forms of currency into a stable coin / cbdc system. And it's already been documented by many people with a little research done, the capabilities that this system is going to have. The ability to control everyone's financial freedom. It can be turned on and off at will and given an expiration date. If any particular government doesn't want to allow its people to purchase certain items, no transaction will go through with that particular digital currency. So while cryptocurrency may be a nice decision for the short-term, the people who are buying and holding for several years to come or for the rest of their lives may be hit with quite a rude awakening. The cryptocurrency we know today can very simply be outlawed by the any governments stable coins and cbdcs. Bitcoin could go to 200,000 or even a million dollars... But what's it's going to be worth when there are no more dollars ??? And governments will not allow any other form of currency to take away the control they gain from these new digital assets. Then of course there's a discussion of AI which is expected to achieve AGI (artificial general intelligence) and ASI(artificial super intelligence) within the next 2 to 3 years. Certainly by 2030. And then of course the other one slightly further down the road of quantum computers that can hack every bank account and crypto wallet address on the planet in a second. All things to consider and plan your future around. Because you know the ones that have nefarious ideas in mind have already thought these things out for us.
Where's the rush? Since they announced ASI merge I didn't expect anything to explode right away. I think it's the tech that matters to them, not the hype. That goes to all projects included. It's not that hard to realize the long-term potential behind Fetch.AI, Ocean Protocol and SingularityNET.
I got flamed for this but I said switching to ASI was the worst thing ever, now look. Imagine rebranding when your coin is at ATH.
With some AI projects I don't need altseason to make some money. Some tools are useful in all market conditions. First thing that comes to my mind is Ocean Protocol's ASI Predictoor. I am using it almost daily. But I am not sure if majority of the people out there are looking for function. I think that most of them just want easy gains.
Its worse than a rug. The GENIUS act shows their hand. Theyre giving the tether printer to commercial banks. Theyre pressuring jpow to cut rates. Trumps tarrifs are front running and slowing stocks. Theyre getting ASI built up and ready. Its obvious isnt it? The oligarchs are cashing out. Theyre redirecting capital flows. Theyre going to go all in on pumping deflationary bitcoin with hyperinflationary USD, entrenching the oligarchy. Dirty hyperinflation fiat for the peasants, perfect deflationary asset for the rich. Technofeudalism here we come.
ASI Predictoor is also a great tool that came out from the Ocean's kitchen.
The HODL list is good imo, I'd also add ASI because Fetch together with Ocean and Agix has the best tech in AI&Data, and I'd add Inj as a decentralized platform. That's it...
Honestly... at this point, just go full zimbabwe mode with the printers and start using 10^x notations or tetration and stuff when needed. I bet we could escalate that for 50 years or so, get the sim pods ready with the money and let ASI play facility manager. Deliver me
It appears as though the supply and demand of mining tends to keep the system in balance, but there is always a risk that 1 centralized mining operation takes over 51% of the hash rate, but if that happens it would instantly devalue Bitcoin and thus the motivation would be low given the sheer cost to hash that much for little gain in the long run. It is a non zero chance though and there could be other vectors too so nothing is guaranteed. That said we have had over a decade of many attempts to bring Bitcoin down and none have been successful so it does appear fairly hardened. Of course AI, AGI and ASI may tip the tables, but that goes with everything. I am also not the most knowledgeable of Bitcoin as I have been more of a sideline watcher. This is just my understanding. Sure there are maximalist here there can school is all much better but I think this is the general gist.
Yo frens, supply shock is real AF , whales scooping BTC off exchanges like it’s Black Friday. 🚨 Once BTC rips past 130k, alts gonna go parabolic, don’t get caught sleepin’. 👀 Two alts I’m loading bags on: 1. RNDR (Render) – AI + GPU power narrative is strong, and this thing moves like a beast in bull cycles. 2. FET (Fetch.AI) – Merging with Ocean + Singularity for the $ASI token? That’s major alpha, AI season ain’t over yet. 🔮 Strap in, we’re just getting started. 🚀
I am using Ocean Predictoor. Actually it's ASI Predictoor now, because Ocean Protocol is a formative part of ASI. The development is only making it better. I don't have any plans to stop.
Not bad strategy keeping in mind the current market conditions. I really hope that you gonna make it with XRP, I sold mine. BTC is no-brainer, it's riskier not having it than having it. :D My long-term play is ASI and all the projects involved. When it comes to utility Ocean Protocol and Fetch.ai nailing it. If you take a look at anything related to ASI you will recognize the obvious long-term potential. People always speak about going long until they see red and start chasing pumps but if you have patience, that would be my suggestion.
I'm not trading, I am not buying. I'm using ASI Predictoor when the market is like this. If you are good at predicting the prices, you can earn some extra while you waiting for a sign. :D
That's right, they are a member of the ASI Alliance. The important thing is that all teams continue to work individually on development, and I notice through nodes, predictoor, data nfts that Ocean has made the most progress there. Certainly, that's all ASI, exactly what you say.
Agreed. By ocean, do you mean ASI? If so yes I agree they are gonna do nicely as well
>Coins with solid tech often focus on long term value and utility not hype. That's why I will never give up on ASI Alliance projects. The long-term vision behind Ocean Protocol, Fetch.AI and SingularityNET is more than obvious, especially if you look at the docs. I stopped chasing quick gains a while ago. Got burned badly cpl of times.
Have you ever used ASI Predictoor? That way you can earn more and save time and frustration... a solid tool.
Yeah, BTC dominance looks brutal right now. Most alts are back at 2022 levels or worse. That said, I’m not looking for hype right now, just projects actually delivering. BTC dominance climbing usually drains alts, especially those without real traction. Still holding LINK for oracles, RNDR on GPU demand, and FET post-ASI merge. OCEAN is a quiet builder, 1.4M+ nodes, compute-to-data tools, and real AI prediction use. if rotation comes, I’m betting on infrastructure over hype.
I believe the only thing that can disrupt bitcoin will be ASI developing a different money/model/economic system / (or just holistically wiping us out).
Instead of futures, I use ASI Predictoor, a much safer trade, and the Ocean token itself is a good option. I'm here long term...
Longevity Escape Velocity is a real thing, and with AGI seeming fairly likely within two decades and ASI almost inevitable at some point after that, it wouldn't surprise me if cutting-edge medicine can eliminate age-related causes of death completely within 50 years for wealthy/connected individuals. So secure your BTC to a ridiculously paranoid level, maximize your sovereignty in all dimensions of life, be very health and longevity conscious, improve your networking skills over the coming decades and this is very much on the table for most of us.
You can, Solana is good, many developers work there. I also noticed that there are many developers working on MultiversX and ASI Alliance, so maybe that's a sign... The systems they developed are good, Multivers for L1, ASI for AI&Data.
I think OCEAN is still a good buy. And other ASI Alliance projects as well.
Everything that Ocean Protocol is doing still feels authentic. Their approach to data through C2D is something that will be utilized a lot in the future. Their level of decentralization with a vast network of Nodes is outstanding. Not to mention the ASI Alliance.
I'm sorry you feel that way. It was the next logical step to defend against all threats (Bad actors, Quantum, etc...) And the only ASI capable of Hyperbitcoinization. Not human efforts.
Okay - I did give 10-50 year window for AGI which is reasonable for just general intelligence. Unless you are thinking of ASI, artificial super intelligence... because if you think an A.I cant be generally intelligent like a human (not saying that makes it conscious or gives it life) - you arent paying attention. General simply means that it can be trained as a medical A.I but teach itself other completely different skills and tasks without human help or input. I would counter your argument and say that putting AGI aside, dismissing AI's near future potential impact is equally as dumb. Our best AI currently has an IQ of 136 (thats a better score than 98% of humans), it was 120 only a few months back. The technology is growing exponentially. It will be implemented with other technologies that are growing or not invented yet. It does not have to be a mythical, mystical robot born intelligence "AGI" to help develop our progress on technology by orders of magnitude. Even a marginally smarter AI than we have today with better and more useful implementation (specialised LLM's for hospitals, research assistants etc) will speed up human progress. But the rate the tech is improving it will blow past that in 5 years. Sure you can dismiss AGI, a definition nobody can even agree on, let alone know when we have reached it. But you cant dismiss how influential A.I will be in general on humanity at every level in the next 10 years.