HODL

Zestyclose-Power-132

What i discuss is HODL / never sell mentality didn't paid off for the last 5 years, if you do buy at 15k and sell at 125k then bravo, but it just makes you a good trader and doesn't make BTC a good long term investment after all. Even going as low as 15k over 1 year period just shows the problem for long term holders.

LornaQin

From 'HODL' to 'Fold'. Even if it’s just 0.00X% of total holdings, the math is irrelevant—the ideology **has** bowed to reality

Flynn_Kevin

LMAO I bougjt the top once, with money I couldn't afford to lose.....in 2013. Was so embarrased that I fell for such a scam that I just repressed the memory. Life went on, I packed a bunch of stuff into storage and took a travel job to pay the bills. I found my wallet in a box full of USBs that I had packed back then in December 2020 as I was unpacking boxes looking for Christmas decorations. It was our first Christmas in our first house. Dust in 2013 became real money in 2021. I sold the first top at $65k. Accidental HODL didn't make me rich, bit it sure did make life a lot easier. I took the time to study the pattern and came back to the table a better, more patient investor. If my 2035 plan works out, maybe I can actually retire before I drop dead.

Advanced-Summer1572

I love when really hopeful people pretend to be unimpressed. Nothing has changed with Bitcoin. It is being adopted at lightning speed, in all of the correct industries. (Finance) Our experience curve is becoming more aligned. Remember, "Utility coupled with Innovation, equals adoption"... Goodnight... HODL

SuessMeetsSats

This is it!! HODL strong. Forget about it. Pretend it’s not there. Continue to DCA and let time be your friend. Travel without touching your sats. It’s going to pay off!!

solariyoung

HODL it and never sell it.

Background-Usual9828

Bro is paper hands HODL

The_Mean_Gus

If you’re so concerned, keep your money outside of the 401k lol. They are often used by everyday people who are saving for retirement. Go tell your blue collar aunt that her portfolio is down 15% when she’s ready to retire because she was invested in crypto and winter came. “Sorry you’re down 100k, just HODL!”

JeremyLinForever

What makes you think it’s ripe for manipulation? Let’s compare that to people in the wallstreetbets sub scamming novices that SPCE stock is actually SpaceX stock when they damn well know it’s not, but the stock still pumps anyway. Let’s compare that to a housing market in a high cost of living area where people will squeeze you out of deals when they have any advantage or upper hand. Let’s compare that to businesses either shutting the competition down by playing dirty or just buying them out to get rid of the competition. It happens all across the board. Welcome to the big boy table. Have a seat and learn how to HODL through the fire and the flames and come out on top.

Turbulent-Land-5664

yeah, Im not smart enough to be a trader in markets or try to beat them, so I never pay too much attendtion the the dollar values. Ofc when its lower it feels shitty and when its surging its so exciting, but if you have been in it for a while like I have - 2017 - you can see how it is, if you want the highs you need the lows - and so you expect it. Every time I tried to trade I almost lost, and had so much anxiety about it that it wasnt worth it. So all I do is HODL. This last ATH I had to sell a little bit to pay a legal bill and was able to buy it all back when it dropped so that I still had the same amount, so that worked well - I guess I took profits - but I did it strictly because I had no choice. I will live like a pauper until my investment is matured and where I want it to be.

coinluv

I was wondering if I should have sold at 120k and bought back in now. Not sure HODL is the most profitable strategy?

SeriousGains

No no no. HODL only. To the moon or to zero. That’s how we do it in crypto. That’s how you get lambos bro. /s

Advanced-Summer1572

Come on. Do some research: I am not getting paid for this but here a freebie: "There is no exact figure, but several major traditional banks and institutional lenders now accept Bitcoin (BTC) as loan collateral, moving beyond specialized crypto institutions into mainstream finance. The institutional lenders supporting or preparing to offer Bitcoin-backed loans include: JPMorgan Chase: Offers institutional clients the ability to pledge Bitcoin and Ethereum as collateral for loans. Goldman Sachs: Has been executing Bitcoin-backed loans for clients since 2022 and continues to expand its digital asset lending operations. BNY Mellon: The world’s largest custodian bank rolled out crypto custody and services to help institutions engage with digital assets. Charles Schwab: Exploring digital asset custody and extending credit lines against Bitcoin. Citigroup: Expanding its custody, payment solutions, and credit offerings tailored for institutional investors holding digital assets. Additionally, several dedicated crypto financial platforms specialize directly in BTC-backed loans, such as Unchaine and SALT—are commonly used by borrowers who want direct Bitcoin-backed loans." Have a great day. Do your research. Answer your own doubts. The info is on line. HODL

TheresNoSecondBest

DCA & HODL is the name of the game.

Advanced-Summer1572

And finally..."Citigroup is launching institutional Bitcoin custody and banking infrastructure to integrate the cryptocurrency directly into traditional safekeeping, tax, and reporting frameworks, allowing clients to hold BTC alongside conventional securities. The bank's current Bitcoin and market updates feature:Custody Rollout: Citi is building this infrastructure to make Bitcoin "bankable." Clients will be able to plug Bitcoin positions directly into existing risk controls and tax workflows without needing to manage wallets or private keys themselves. Price Forecast: Citi analysts lowered their 12-month Bitcoin target to \(\$112,000\) (down from \(\$143,000\)). The revision reflects the stalling of U.S. crypto market-structure legislation, such as the Clarity Act, which has narrowed the window for regulatory catalysts that drive ETF demand. Market Scenarios: In a bullish case driven by high ETF-demand and regulatory progress, Citi sees Bitcoin reaching \(\$165,000\). Conversely, in a recessionary macro backdrop, the target drops to \(\$58,000\). Institutional Platforms: Citi is also building broader digital asset capabilities (CIDAP) to support asset tokenization and smart contracts across public and private blockchains. You can read more about the bank's digital asset strategies on Citi Digital Assets or explore the price forecast details reported by Reuters." Got to get back to finishing this analysis for a client. Enjoy the read. HODL

BlazingPalm

I would mostly HODL if I were you. You’ve got the gift of youth on your side. What you do now can have major impact in a (relative) little while. 1 year is over 4% of your lifetime, it feels long, I get it. I look back now and can’t believe how fast my 20s flew by. A few years from now with hodling and stacking you will likely (my opinion) have a position of financial strength and many more options. Good luck, dude!

KCConnor

I went through similar several years back. I said I would cash out my BTC when it was worth enough to take the weak 3.6L engine out of my Jeep Wrangler and put in a Hemi V8. Sure glad I didn't do that, since my wife crashed my Jeep and insurance lowballed me heavily to where I couldn't replace the vehicle with what they gave me. But it wasn't the crash that stopped me from that plan. The plan changed to "I'll cash out when I can pay off my house with it." And I wizzed right on past that one, too. About 25% of my Bitcoin bought me a rural acreage, and left me a tiny bit leftover to reinvest this cycle (on top of my 75% HODL). Getting close to jumping back in soon. I want to take 25% out again in fall of 2029 and build on the property. Then 4 years later I want to retire. I'll be 55 at that point.

HQ_Husky

Exactly. That's the legendary part of how he will be remembered... look you dead in the eye, say HODL, and instantly click sell.

Advanced-Summer1572

Hard to believe that a strategy based on logic can be abandoned because the market has a shiny new product. I wish I had a line of credit with a million dollar limit. Wow! What an opportunity. Nothing has changed. Bitcoin is a limited edition holder of value which is recognized as collateral by banks. Time is on Bitcoins side. It works against an unprofitable but seemingly exciting new product. There are plenty more new products in the pipeline. Not so with Bitcoin. HODL.

HQ_Husky

**"**HODL**"** \- Saylor

PuzzleheadedList5915

Man the f up, you have such a long time horizon. HODL or stfu Janice

OutlandishnessLimp25

I’ll be buying .05 BTC a month while it’s in the 60s, same if we enter 50s. Started buying in 2017. These prices are phenomenal for a longterm holder. HODL

KCConnor

HODL for 2-3 more years. Then sell 25% of your stack and long term HODL the rest. Set aside half of that to buy back in at the bottom of the bear that will follow, and take the other half and either diversify your investments or treat yourself to something. Rinse and repeat every 4 years. You will have a very pleasant life.

Zestyclose-Power-132

Why would someone be interested in what it did from dip of a cycle to ATH? It is cherry picking. I compare only ATHs as it shows what it brings over multiple cycles. The sentiment in this sub is HODL, it is not "buy low sell high", it is not a trading sub.

rsouxlja7

Now you are learning why HODL is not an investment strategy for investments that have no intrinsic value.

MCL-Jonathan

Love this post. The biggest shift wasn't Bitcoin, it was your mindset change and congrats for being able to "SEE"! You started saving for a motorcycle and ended up investing in your future. The bike can still come later. I like delayed gratification. Building the habit of consistently buying, holding, hodling and thinking long term is far more valuable, key investment lesson you learnt there is patience now! Wishing you success in finding a better-paying opportunity too, for your younger self, consistently find ways to up your income to stack more and stay patient. Future you will no doubt thank you. Certainly you can time your bitcoin buy a bit too and I found it easier to concentrate my buy during the bear market (now until early next year), and keep a HODL and SWING Bag along the way too! [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

TheresNoSecondBest

In 2020 we had over 50% drop within two days. This is nothing, mate. DCA & HODL is the name of the game.

TheresNoSecondBest

HODL & DCA is the name of the game.

SkewerSk8r

Buy high, sell low... weak hands.. HODL

Nagemasu

HODL has never been synonymous with "buy". It's about refusing to sell, not taking the chance to buy.

Advanced-Summer1572

Amazed at all of these comments. Almost as if any of it is true. I was a professional investor since 1987. None of this stuff is true. Bitcoin was available on the dark web. You needed an invitation. It was used for drugs, gun running, prostitution services and gambling. Silk Road controlled the web then. No brokers would touch it. There was a chat group that did mine coins, but they were like a teen club of nerds who argued all day while sitting at home in their parents home. Again...they couldn't get you an invitation to the dark web. The story about mining. Is interesting. There were maybe a hundred people in 2009 in the world who could do it. Nobody in the investing universe took it seriously and nobody offered it for sale. But carry on with the great stories and histories. It will be great for your book. Currently I hold .175 of a coin. I DCA once a month. Very cool. HODL Que the brigade down votes. I will show myself out. LOL

Famous-Ebb3041

In 2021, I became a Bitcoin believer, because I saw "the pattern". I've been a 100% HODLer ever since. There is a short term pattern I've noticed and hoping it happens this year as in cycles past and the 4 year cycle is the other pattern I'm waiting for. My sayings are: "HODL til you waddle!", "It can't go high enough, it can't go low enough", and "Buy red, never green!" But I also started in 2021... focused solely on the far future (4 years down the road) and ignoring everything between the peaks! I rode out the Crypto Winter like it was a balmy summer day... seriously. Everything I have is now in the red, except my BTC, SOL, and XRP. And I'm just eagerly waiting for the day when THOSE go red, too!

One-Formal-824

perfect moment, just to HODL and earn on Nexo or Kraken

Spicyocto

Yep I’ve been in the game 12 years. Always sell a good chunk in bull run years. It’s pretty much like clockwork at this point. This year is a HODL or buy more year until we do it all again in 2028

ryryrocco

It def works. Stopped buying stupid useless stuff I don't need. Started stacking sats whenever I have any extra cash. It's working out well so far. Just gotta stick with it, ignore the FUD, buy the f*ckin dip and HODL... ☮️❤️😎🚀

EnderSword

It's the whole reason they train people to be the HODL gang. Need some Diamond hands to buy it

TheresNoSecondBest

800k sell wall would be a really nice test of the current HODL gang.

Consistent_Coach_823

That’s an interesting perspective on the VC-funded side of the equation. Do you think those 'long play' entities are genuinely looking to HODL for the long term, or is their strategy still too tethered to venture exit timelines? Curious if you see them shifting their model as the macro environment evolves.

Its_priced_in

I don’t think this is a huge deal at all, although it goes against the HODL approach they’ve taken from the start and raises more doubts on servicing their debts and dividends. The comment I’m replying to is just stupid. I wouldn’t touch this thing with my forty millimetre peen though.

TheresNoSecondBest

That's a wrong reason to HODL bitcoin.

kallaloostx

Wall Street. The game has changed. Just HODL.

Known-Application106

The ponzi takes are overblown but the math doesn't lie — $120m/month in preferred share dividends means they can't just buy and HODL forever. 32 coins is nothing, but it shows the structure they built has real pressure points. Sideways BTC for too long and we'll see a lot more of these 'rounding error' sales.

Incredibly_Based

For the people who heard Saylor's "HODL HODL HODL" pitch and bought it this must be earth shattering

Omnishambles22

Btc doesn't play by anyone's expectations. HODL or stick with fiat.

omgmyusernamesucks

Layer 2's to secure other chains whilst retaining custody are coming, be patient and HODL

Medium_Change4574

The risk/reward in alts is better from here, nobody wants to buy BTC here thanks to Saylor but the risk appetite is still growing cuz stocks surge. 2025 got me rekt but I ain't gonna capitulate my bags to BTC near the BTC.D top aftee 5 years of HODL. This is a degenerste gambler's thought though, rationally just leaving crypto behind alltogether is likely wa

Opposite_Cold8616

if he HODL for over 15 years $5 would be worth millions now lol

Zombie4141

Why is this not the only response? Phase 1- buy Bitcoin Phase 2- HODL Phase 4- profit.

fxsoap

Well thats like 2 hours of the cost/day for the war. DECENT return! HODL

Ok-Necessary-7637

La prima è da HODL, la seconda da trader

Main_Boysenberry1720

Don’t trip bro. HODL

Stoic-Mindset

HODL

alfredonoodles

$1,000,000 2035 Just HODL

Academic_Attorney996

F\*ck FTX, F\*ck lending platform. Just DCA and HODL !!!

neverhodlHQ

Lo que nadie dice: si hubiera hecho HODL puro, habría aguantado una caída del -77% en 2022    (de $69K a $15K) viendo cómo sus $36M se convertían en $8M sin vender un solo sat. La         mayoría no sobrevive psicológicamente a eso.                                                  El verdadero error no fue tradear , fue no tener un sistema. Los datos on-chain (MVRV,        NUPL, SOPR) han señalado correctamente cada techo y cada fondo de ciclo desde 2017. No        necesitas 200 trades al año. Necesitas 2-3 decisiones correctas por ciclo:                    1. Acumular cuando MVRV < 1.5 y Fear & Greed < 25            2. Mantener durante el bull                                                                   3. Tomar ganancias cuando MVRV > 3.5 y NUPL entra en euforia   Con solo esas 3 reglas y los mismos $387K en 2017, hoy tendrías más que los $36M del HODL —    porque no habrías sufrido los drawdowns del -77% y habrías recomprado el fondo con más       capital.                                                     HODL no es una estrategia. Es ausencia de estrategia. Los ciclos existen, usarlos no es   tradear, es sentido común con datos.

Savik519

One is HODL one is SODL

AngrilyShaky

Like most of the crypto holders currently, HODL, do not sell yet. You might regret it in the future. If you are too eager to sell, do not sell all of it.

Sparky90032

HODL my friend. This is the way! Never sell your Bitcoin! Only one million left. It’s what they want you to do

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Jenn2895

You’re welcome. As others have stated, timing the market can be rough. I would say it depends on your personal strategy, exit plan & timeframe. I usually buy crashes. I love major crashes. Lol. But I’m also very patient & aware I could miss the boat entirely. I bought the 2018 crash, Covid crash & 2022/2023 fear & it worked out nicely. However, in hindsight the 1st time I bought Ether it was around $100. I sold around $300 that cycle. Would it have been better for me to just DCA & HODL? Maybe. But I ended up taking profits & being able to help my family when it was needed, so I don’t regret it at all. I now keep a long term HODL bags on my favorite blue chip. Sold my btc at $100k. But my average was only $20k. If there’s another massive crash I will buy more. But I have skin in the game elsewhere so not going to be upset if I miss the next btc boat. If you plan on holding long term you might as well save yourself the stress & just DCA. If you are in it to trade & make a “quick” buck maybe you should wait for a crash. But just also know that crash may never happen & you might miss the boat entirely or end up fomo buying at much higher prices. * And also, that “quick buck” can, and usually does, take years. Lol.

LowLebenSteezin

Pro tip , cancel the trip , put 90% of liquid non essentially assets into BTC . Live frugal and HODL . 20 years from now, drive a Porsche, bang hookers, and maybe leave a a little in the cold wallet for the kids. No need to thank me later, I'll be balls deep in the suite next door.

_CtrlZED_

'Just buy and HODL' is so unappealing as a direction for crypto. Either there is development of capability or there is nothing. If all crypto is, is buying an invisible, nonproductive asset in the hope that other people will also buy and never sell, then it absolutely will fail.

Illustrious_Way3898

All retail has to do is buy and HODL and refuse to sell.

Illustrious_Way3898

When retail and influencers stop wishing for crypto to crash more and avoid leverage trading. Just buy and HODL. Or just leave crypto if they don’t want to do that.

boniggy

Never take a profit.and HODL. I mined 100mil Doge and over 50 btcs when I started back in 2012.

doge_lady

And HODL!

Expert-Evening9303

It's absolutely trying to sound quirky because it's a play on HODL but for lend instead of hold.

locotx

It's a take on HOLD vs HODL . . .come on man . . Marketing 101

MartyfuckinByrd

Buy more Bitcoin HODL

Omarsaleh66

Yes I would get .5 btc and HODL

SuessMeetsSats

I think the better question is how much BTC can you stack if you simply DCA each week...whatever you can afford to stack and forget. Bet that's more than .5 by 2035. DCA BTC & HODL ;)

MargeInCall

My answer with 4 letters : HODL

AcostaJA

Duress + funds on both wallets, never allow no one to know you HODL except *maybe* your fiance.

XXsforEyes

I love that so many people fixate on early Bitcoin adopters and call it out as unfair. They took the risk, they get the reward. One point of BTC is that people have opportunity. Anyone with a computer or a cell phone and an internet connection can participate. It’s still up to the person to do something about that opportunity: mine it, buy it, earn it, HODL it. If you (the indefinite you) are the person stopping you from doing one of these things, that’s on you.

Big80sweens

Yes definitely, so just DCA and HODL

coinluv

Sold when I needed money to live on. Bought back in and just DCA and HODL now. Hope I’m alive to see Bitcoin reach *One Million Dollars* (pinky up)

bilabrin

Yeah, we HODL because pre 2017 adopter adoted it for different reasons. We believe it will be the backing foundation for a new financial system based upon hard money...Bitcoin. We're not interested in these day-trader ups and downs or even the 4 year cycle. We sell only when necessary and we always regret it later. Time in the market beats timing the markert.

No_Ordinary_Rabbit_

Part of me is proud that I was one of the ones that bought $1000 in BTC before 2017. The other part of me is quite irritated that I sold it the next day because I chickened out. Honestly, I had no business buying it in the first place, because I still did not understand it. I sure do now. And I sure am glad I got in before the real fun started. It is true, you get Bitcoin at the price you deserve. HODL.

PBR_is_OK

HODL my 1 bitcoin since 2010!

Anarkhia00

Still HODL but don’t have capital to have seen massive gains but the gains I did make was deff worth not selling it stay strong guys 💎✊🏾

Academic_Attorney996

EVERY DAYS are bear markets. Just DCA and HODL.

OutlandishnessLimp25

HODL

sgrinavi

HODL!

FitCompetition1804

That’s awesome. I don’t know how people could 100% HODL without selling off at least a portion of their stack. Kudos to you.

AcostaJA

There are no structural issue driving down price, only speculation and fears on war, HODL, whatever it down the higher and faster will be the rebound, reason: Bitcoin on traders hands at record lows, it's unsustainable for typical trading manipulation tactics (you'll see it never goes beyond a wall despite the coordinated fear campaigns.

doggosfear

Would you have invested at ath of $20k in 2017? Coulda woulda shoulda, but if you have convictions about what bitcoin is then you should HODL. If you don’t believe then sell.

Advanced-Summer1572

Make fun of him if you want. Banks and institutions are loading up in these low prices. Obviously they are not looking at the dollar value. This is like buying stick in Ford when Congress was still trying to appease the horse and buggy economy. I am buying. I believe this man. HODL

TheresNoSecondBest

Happy Bitcoin Pizza Day to you too, legend! Anyone wondering who jercos is... Jerome is the guy who accepted the 10,000 BTC offer from Laszlo, called Papa John's, ordered the pizza and paid for it with fiat. Sadly no. Jerome didn't HODL.

Crypto_future_V

Bitcoin price is per one whole coin so when you sell it shows the current market rate around 100k right now if you sold one BTC you got roughly that amount minus fees just HODL and learn the basics first bro youll get it

MCL-Jonathan

Pure CAGR? Historically Bitcoin wins by a mile. But retirement investing isn’t just about max returns… it’s about surviving volatility long enough to stay invested. That’s why for some, well at least for me, a bit of diversification makes sense: S&P 500 offers stability + steady compounding Bitcoin brings higher growth and upside That said, if you’re young, there’s a strong argument for being more aggressive early. Assuming you’re in your 20s/30s Some may stack Bitcoin hard for 1–3 cycles (4–12 years), build conviction, then diversify later into S&P / income assets. No right answer of course nfa always dyor. Bitcoin’s historical CAGR has been insane… but only if you can survive the volatility without panic selling. I always say, to have a HODL bag and SWING bag. HODL bag you hodl forever and never sell. Swing bag you buy low and sell high. Take some profits add them into s&p500 and the rest buy back into bitcoin during bear market. [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

Ok-Necessary-7637

Sono appena entrato nel mondo btc come HODL, ho investito quello che potevo permettermi… anche se non si parla di cifre grandissime, non ho aspettato a comprare un cold wallet e usare l’exchange solo ed esclusivamente per comprare e trasferire sul wallet. Leggendo questi Reddit penso sia stata una grande decisione!!!

Hitachi22

Ever since then, it's just been all down hill. He essentially signed Litecoin's death certificate with what he did.  That's even worse than just selling. All his followers trusted him and he told them to HODL while dumping his bags on them. That's the ultimate betrayal of trust. Nobody will ever want to work with him after that.

Technical-Jicama8840

HODL

TheresNoSecondBest

Not really. Only noobs flip "every few days from “bull run confirmed” to “everything is over”." The long time HODL gang is getting bigger. They are calm. Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy in their line. Focused. Flourishing...

_FreeThinker

HODL*

sha256btc21ml

be patient and HODL strong , avoid the price noice around you, this is temporary, Bitcoin was designed to go up in value forever due to fixed supply and increased adoption , which is happening since 2009 when Bitcoin was sold for less than a dollar and now reached 100,000, this is exceptional growth in today’s financial world , you are well ahead of 95% of global population who don’t even have 1 sat in their portfolio, keep staking and avoid distractions, Bitcoin is rewarded patience and conviction, punishes trading and speculation . All the best for HODLing

DaLastComeBack_I_Got

Yeah, when I buy, I know it will go down. So, I just buy .00025 (about $20) every thousand it goes down. I started doing that at 80k and it's already about to go into the 75k range. If I keep doing this, the BTC gods will keep going lower. Then, I will buy huge orders 60k-65k ish and then just HODL forever!

Wiccaocram

get in and HODL

Ok_Freedom3290

 has it? Like I can distinctly remember back in 2021 when it seemed like crypto was everywhere. Buy bitcoin this, buy ethereum that. Elon Musk was pumping dogecoin. Even heading into late 2024 when Trump won the US election, there was this massive wave of hype for the first "crypto president", and bitcoin was gonna go to the moon or whatever. Now fast forward to today - bitcoin is stuck in a lull, Trump coin is down 97% from its ATH, and general overall interest in crypto appears to be drying up outside of terminally online "HODL" bros. I'm not saying the price of bitcoin has necessarily "peaked", like do I believe $125k is likely the peak for all of eternity? Probably not. But the generational gains of the early adopters, the wave of big hype, it all seems to have passed us by at this point. What are your thoughts?

MCL-Jonathan

Soon after hitting the bear market and when I still HODL Bitcoin, that’s when you stop looking at charts