HODL

ProfessorShanks

Don’t sell it. It’s already invested. Don’t ruin your fathers HODL

Lucky-Campaign-8965

HODL 10 years and don’t pay attention to the price or anything else. Don’t tell anyone you have it when you are rich. Private key. Then you can spend it slowly when it hits highs.

OutlandishnessLimp25

Smart imo and good on you for doing the work to have the conviction to do such. I think you’ll be happy with this decision. HODL

0a0d0s0

Agreed, the spread is the real finding. The stack size is mostly a bet on the price path, with a spending plan attached. I think you’re right about flexible spending, and it should matter more for bitcoin than for stocks. Every dollar you don’t spend near the bottom saves a lot of coins, because each coin raises so little there. The one catch I’d watch is timing - bitcoin bear markets tend to sit near the lows for a year or two, so a cut that only lasts 12 months might end right when you need it most. The simulator doesn’t model that. Spending only goes up with inflation, so I can’t give you a proper number. The closest I’ve got is the HODL or Fold game, where you can choose to spend 25% less for 12 months when the price drops, on real price history since 2013. It’s a rough way to see the effect, not a proper test.

baltaruiz

Don’t worry. Just HODL. Keep them in Mt. Gox…

H8ckt1v1st

I buy many services with BTC, dinner, electric bill, utilities, etc. Hotels, etc. HODL is a different topic

Katolo

I don't understand how this makes any sense. - bitcoin as payment - bitcoin replaces fiat - HODL, 30 year horizon - DCA, keep stacking - to the moon Surely people understand the first two statements contradict the last 3? Either btc is just an investment vehicle or it's replacing fiat, it can't be both.

4pocketsfuls

HODL🚀🌌😬

Sin-City-Sinner

Great! Another 24K and you’ll have a full one, HODL my friend!!

BreakInfamous1195

It sounds like you have enough to not have to sell at all. HODL and borrow against it if you need cash.

Virukev

Just keep it. Let it ride. HODL

morphyhu

Born with nothing, you are right. HODL

Successful_Ad_380

If BTC is not a "safe investment" then there is no safe investment. If BTC "gets hacked" then everything gets hacked. No investment anywhere matters, your money on the bank won't matter, that is, if that happens. I think there's a lot of fear surrounding AI including pessimism. It's not for nothing that our adage and core maxim is: HODL.

SimpleMoonFarmer

1. Buy, DCA. 3. Leverage when it dips, to buy more. 4. Buy more when it keeps dipping, to keep collateral levels. 5. HODL when it goes up. 5. Repeat from 1.

M45K3DG4M3R

January 28th 2021 will no longer be known as they day they stole our buy button... But as the day where the apes of the world declared in one voice! WE WILL NOT SELL QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT! WE WILL NOT SELL OUR SHARES (OR COINS) WITHOUT A FIGHT! WE'RE GONNA HODL ON! WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON! TODAY WE CELEBRATE OUR DIAMOND HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOO-HOO!!! YEAH!!! FUCK YOU HEDGIES!!!!!!!!

MCL-Jonathan

HODL at least a one full cycle (4 years), beside you bought at the bear market, so congrats on getting in the right timing

jmorais00

You bought an entire BTC at once? DCA my dude Also, -3% is a walk in the park. HODL

Alt123Acct

🚨🚨 BITCOIN HAS COLLAPSED. FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN JEOPARDY. 🚨🚨     Bitcoin just dropped $3. THAT’S A WHOLE 0.003% OR WHATEVER.     THE CHART IS RED. THE VIBES ARE WORSE. 🚨     SELL YOUR HOUSE. SELL YOUR CAR. SELL YOUR CLOTHES.     SELL YOUR WIFE. (She’s probably already in a 100x leveraged short.)     The institutional investors are panicking. Whales are crying. Satoshi has been spotted updating his résumé on LinkedIn.     My $47 portfolio is down $0.14. I WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS.     🚨 EMERGENCY FED MEETING AT WENDY’S PARKING LOT IN 10 MINUTES.     If BTC drops another $2, we’re reverting to a barter economy. Start stockpiling canned beans and USB-C cables.     IT WAS AN HONOR LOSING MONEY WITH YOU ALL. 🫡📉     #Bitcoin #BTC #CryptoCrash #HODL #WeAreSoBack

Foreign-Concept-1184

Who cares? It is adoption. Keep it. If course China will accept any increase in the international markets. Excellent! If they had destroyed it or said it was useless? That would have impacted financial markets. This affirmation of the value in holding Bitcoin. HODL

YingYangBoomerang666

HODL and *buy* in dip

CyberChuckle7

The HODL button only works if you close your eyes and delete the app.

Iamtutut

HODL and live your life.

ChemicalSomeFish

Best part is he can't check the price every five minutes. Perfect HODL conditions.

Blockchainauditor

1) Are we forgetting the breach involving Trezor’s shipping provider in August? 2) If we have no business owners, isn’t that a big problem? 3) If our life goal should be to HODL BTC, how does ANYTHING get done? Where does the electricity to run the PC come from?

After_Club6421

FOMO. Just through HODL.

Big_Pie_3616

my advice it just to buy major altcoins and btc and HODL

Grizly2000

Aren't people using BTC globally offline with pagers or old phones? Bitcoins zero counterparty risk. Quantum well it effects normal banks too so. I believe in BTC more then $ HODL

Foreign-Concept-1184

It is a limited supply opportunity. There is no reason, other than the current leveraging strategy, that can possibly make this go to zero. LOL. No offense intended to all of the Reddit geniuses. Most were around seven years old in 2009. HODL

DepthHorror9528

People always try to make sense of the price. It's impossible. All your models will be destroyed. Just HODL works.

SpendHefty6066

Run a node. Don't let fiat price swings enter your emotional state. No FOMO no panic. Live below your means. Focus on your craft. DCA, HODL, watch the hash rate securing the network and the blocks tick tock on your node, not the fiat chart. Remember, honey badger dgaf about price.

isunktheship

What did he say? #BUY MORE AND HODL?

sumpyrromach

The only realistic bear case is government overreach going full 1984 on on-ramps and self-custody. It would crush short-term fiat price and cause massive volatility. But honestly, that just proves why we need it in the first place. You cant ban the math or shut down the network itself. Worst case, it goes underground for a bit, but the fundamental need for hard money will always win out. HODL strong.

sicknal

We don’t, we HODL!

Queasy-Ride4291

Hell yea, in about 10,000 more years, BTC will also have a 29.1T market cap. All we have to do is wait. HODL!!!

TheresNoSecondBest

Exactly zero influence. I'm a simple man, I buy bitcoin and HODL it in my own air-gapped cold wallet.

Stoic-Mindset

Only HODL.

Valuable_Paper_6231

Oh man, haven't got the memo yet? HODL and pump it. Simplicity itself!

NankerPhelgeRahrig

HODL

OutlandishnessLimp25

Usually the harder decision is the right one. Enjoy your freedom! HODL

gamezjunkie

Just HODL. You just picked the wrong possible period of time to start doing it, but still, you will get big money in the future. Just trust in BTC. It will only get more valuable with time.

TheresNoSecondBest

That's just another shitcoin, mate. Zoom out to 10 years and compare it to BTC. It's constantly losing value in sats. I wouldn't HODL it long time.

Rahim556

HODL

CrazYforGold

Pizza for the low price of 10,000 BC 🤣 I still wonder about that guy. Anyone knows if he continued to HODL?

Ok_Review_784

I fully agree. I don’t understand the gambling. Just DCA and HODL. Wins every-time.

praise_the_most_high

Never even spend it , just HODL indefinitely

stamaton

Patience doesn’t pay off after just two years. HODL even stronger.

12buklmashu

Or HODL

SpendHefty6066

Agreed. Limits plus DCA and HODL is a solid stress free accumulation strategy.

RewardFuzzy

You are supposed to trade it for goods and services. Stop the HODL!

Tex_Buttinski

Bought in October 2017. 6k per coin. 30 months later I was back at square one. HODL

aladeeninyourmalawa

You need one full cycle at least. HODL and chill. Give it another 2 years.

sheeeeeeeeei

Can I prod for a second? Do you view buying bitcoin as “destroying your cash to acquire bitcoin”, do you believe fiat is worthless? And do you believe it is embarrassing to buy bitcoin with said Fiat? Is it sketchy and untrustworthy and a stain on your career to buy BTC with fiat? To me, kinda is. It means you are paying the electric bill of the miner. And now you must HODL. But really, to be honest, buying BTC always seemed like a losing game, when there is a new block every 10 minutes. You’re just not doing the full work, you’re buying BTC that someone else did the work to create. BTC has always been cheap AF until recently. Sorry, I just have a weird perspective on buying bitcoin, and trading it at all for FIAT, or vice versa. Everyone should own some bitcoin , right? So in a way you’re taking a handout by buying BTC, and the person selling it has no true understanding of the value of said BTC. Embarrassing deal overall. But I still sure do wish I bought some BTC back in 2012, instead of being a stuck up pri- I mean person, in the way that this comment illustrates about me.

Lemon-Tuna

only lose when you sell. HODL

OutsideWishbone7

“Deep” was that a deliberate phrasing for “dip”, kind of like HODL was a misspelling of HOLD and became a life of its own? We should adopt “deep” to mean a crypto “dip”, I like it ❤️

Hitachi22

In the early days Litecoin just marketed itself as a faster and cheaper Bitcoin, "digital silver". Also as a test net.  They should have shifted narrative to a store of value to protect against currency debasement since it's a fixed supply coin. Low fees and fast confirmation is not enough to add value. And Charlie Lee telling his followers to HODL while dumping his bags on them didn't help.

Nikky-B-

Well we’re a lot of people that have been f\*\*\*t over the years in crypto. I’m down around 8k in 2 coins because I was new and naive. But at the same time I’ve learned the lesson and now I’m somehow glad I did because I would probably be losing more money if I didn’t get burned. Now I just HODL one coin and bide my time for a few years.

Lunican1337

LTC is one of the most widely adopted and USED coins out of all. Kids in here thing of everything as it its full purpose is to HODL and invest. But Litecoin is one of the few that really holds up to what Bitcoin was created for in the first place

33halvings

Stack and HODL is the way

Sunnyjim333

DCA, HODL. That is it. No leveraging, just HODL. Now you know.

MondayOctober

Stop asking questions. just HODL or not. 

TheresNoSecondBest

I still HODL because the fundamentals are exactly the same as one year ago at 115k or two years ago at 58k. Yes, the price keeps changing but **the most decentralized network in the world** gets stronger every year, no matter the exchange rate.

SippingInMountains

I check the charts every day, multiple times a day. I'm from class of 2020, and my HODL plan is 20 years+.

RareVibeDelight

Nobody knows exactly when the next bull market will arrive, but the whales 🐳 aren’t accumulating Bitcoin for nothing! I’m thinking long-term, not chasing short-term predictions. HODL, keep stacking sats, run your own node + verify and enjoy the journey! 🧡💎🙌

RareVibeDelight

HODL! 💎🙌 Ignore the noise, keep stacking sats, and think long-term. Bitcoin rewards patience, not panic. Run your own node and stay sovereign! 🧡🚀

RareVibeDelight

Absolutely! 🧡 HODL I believe in Bitcoin long-term and its 4-year halving cycles. The next halving is roughly 1.5 years away, followed by another in 2032. I’m thinking decades, not months. Keep stacking sats, run your own node, and enjoy the journey! 🚀🧡

Foreign-Concept-1184

You do understand what Bitcoin bis part of. Anyone planning a sell date for a limited opportunity? They are either an investment company that doesn't own the coin, but is housing it for a group or a government that intended to use Satoshis as the cornerstone for the next evolution in currency. Even then the plan is not to "sell" it, but to use it for the next step. Not that wantibg a better car, or house or hooker or cocaine. Just that you don't understand the nature of Bitcoin. HODL

Foreign-Concept-1184

The beautiful thing about adoption? If the idea is innovative and has utility? Nothing can or will stop it. Bitcoin will endure. Fiat is the gateway. SATOSHIS RISE! HODL

TalkZealousideal3889

Use long-term moving averages. My advisor was able to purchase 55% more Bitcoin in Sept 2026 than Dec 2025 sold. You do not need to be perfect to beat HODL, just use a long moving average.

wikidemic

This is the eternal **HODL**

yell0w8

if there's one coin that proved you need to HODL, it's Quant

TheresNoSecondBest

>Do you actually see yourself holding it for the next 5–10 years Already doing that. HODL is the easiest strategy. >do you have a price in mind where you'd sell everything? There's no reason why to do that at all. Even if it goes to $1 gazillion, it just proves it's much better money than the dollar. Why would I "sell everything?" To have the dollars that keep melting down?

Porcellanidae

Everybody thinking that HODL stands for Hold on for dear life is wrong, this is the original HODL post: [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0) Back in 2013 this guy's girlfriend went to a Lesbian bar, and he got drunk AF. Hodling Bitcoin. I hope he is hodling the majority of his Bitcoin to this date !

Dragnskull

this is the most recent lesson I've learned. I jumped on the HODL bandwagon years ago and never got off, i've seen great growth because of it but recently realized if i would actually sell during the ATH's and jump back in after the inevitable crash I'd make a ton more. problem is I don't know where the top is, so think I'm going to start planning out a "Step off the ladder" approach where once it hits an ATH i pull a little out here and there locking in some profits while waiting for the rollercoaster ride to drop so i can jump back on

Icy-Chemical6699

This is the only comment that matters …they literally make the money, can’t stop people from embraceing it, and want to give away what would rather have ? HODL …”this is a test of the emergency broadcast system”

PsychologicalBit803

Yeah I get what you’re saying. The whole BTC system is just becoming another asset controlled by big banks. 90% of trading and price manipulation is by futures trading which is institutional investing. If you really want to know what’s going on with the price look at spot buying/selling. That tells the real story. I just learned a couple years ago this is the way it is. ETFs pumped billions in the system but now they also control the pricing greatly. Certain people follow these things closely so I listen to them daily to get a better picture where the market is going. I 100% believe long term in buying BTC. I encourage my younger family to DCA. I trade daily on futures exchanges but id never encourage that without spending a lot of time getting educated. Im about a year in on a two year education journey myself before I will start trading significant amounts. Still very much learning but it’s been eye opening. Absolutely lost some money early on but I fully expected to. I planned it out and treated this investing as a business. I keep it totally separate from my usual spot buying of crypto. I’m a BTC HODL guy also. Just no reason you can’t participate in all of it. Takes the right mentality and great discipline to trade daily but overall it really isn’t rocket science. Much more about proper risk management. So many great resources these days online. Great people to follow that made all the mistakes and help you not repeat them. Lots of money to be made on up or down days. Doesn’t matter but you have to dedicate yourself to getting educated on reading charts and knowing when to get in and out. All very learnable. I enjoy it a lot and allows a great deal of freedom now and I only see it getting better. Looking forward to the start of the bull market in the next year or two.

sQtWLgK

OP implies that they have more coins which they HODL; they'll be fine. That hurts only if those were all the coins.

abercrombezie

Safest way to HODL? You don't even need a wallet. You just need a seed and a recipient address. Once done HODLing, you only need a wallet to spend.

ReservedXM

If you couldn’t interpret my humor, this is what I ment. Regardless of price, just stack says and HODL long term (20-30 years). Thank yourself then…

tasty_iron

This is exactly why people should not do. Look at the charts. Just HODL

21Moto

Trading Bitcoin is a losing strategy. DCA2BTC and HODL or HFSP. 😊

Hitachi22

The difference between Charlie Lee and all the other founders is he told everyone to HODL while dumping on them.

WorryDesigner8152

honestly, paying off your mortgage sounds like a pretty good reason to break the HODL rule 😂 there’s gotta be something satisfying about knowing the house is officially yours

No_Fuel4693

In jurisdictions where BTC attracts CGT, and every withdrawal is treated as a 'disposal' event, it makes little sense to transact with it, so most just HODL or trade. Transacting in BTConly works in places where there's no-KYC, and/or no CGT tracking (or you're willing to skirt around those two).

OutlandishnessLimp25

Haven’t spent a single sat. Been buying and stacking since 2017. It’s a bit silly at this point, but what can I say, I love watching a number on the screen go up. HODL

Golden_King_911

Diamond 💎 HODL

Unlisted_User69420

Congratulation$!!! Keep stacking, and like the experts here (I am NOT one of them), HODL

sylsau

**Bitcoin was supposed to buy you freedom.** So why are you afraid to spend it? **“Why spend Bitcoin if you expect its value to rise?”** Turn that around: **Why hold dollars if you expect their purchasing power to fall?** Because you have a life to manage. Needs. Responsibilities. Choices. The same applies to Bitcoin. Paying for your child’s care. Funding an education. Keeping your family housed during a difficult month. That is savings doing its job. **Good money encourages you to think twice before spending. It doesn’t require you to say “no” forever.** Somewhere along the way, “HODL” became a rule that made people feel guilty for using the freedom they spent years building. **An incentive to save is not a command to never spend.** What would make spending your Bitcoin worth it?

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Old_Preparation8434

If you dont need it, hold it for atleast 3 years. Thank me in 3 years. Good luck and HODL!

green_apple_trees

Yes. HODL and then borrow against your Bitcoin if you need to take money out.

No-Wrap3568

I assume you're a beginner. With that in mind here's all that you should look for in a wallet:- 1) EAL 6+ secure element 2) More than one source of TRNG, so that what happened with coldcard doesn't happen again 3) No single point of failure, managing a seedphrase is nightmare for most people, I was no exception. Best option would be a Shamir's Secret Sharing enabled wallet, the best solution as of now 4) A BTC-only firmware if you don't trade in shitcoins, reduces the surface area for unwanted attacks. 5) Native-Inheritance support if you're not too young and if you don't hold a big amount. Make sure you don't skip your own research, before buying, spend some time understanding how cold wallets works, what breaks them and what to avoid. HODL for life!

No_Ebb_3017

LMAO, Litecoin has done nothing for the past decade. It's dropped from top 5 to top 20. It was the first coin I bought which turned out to be a huge mistake. Wish I would have listened to the Bitcoin maxis. I'd be retired. Charlie Lee destroyed it's reputation by dumping on his followers while telling them to HODL.  Every single thing you listed has done absolutely nothing for the price. None of those brought any new demand. You'll get some bounces here and there but it will just continue to bleed on it's ratio. 

Unhappy-Shelter-8785

HODL

OkDeer4213

Same thing happened to me. Bought 1BTC for 5k. Panic sold during the pandemic. Had to buy it back at 10k. HODL ever since!

Golden_King_911

People think we are delusional, but the day bitcoin reaches 1 million Everyone will Join us HODL 💪💪💪💪

VeterinarianFun2455

bond market sell off continues risk assets sell off to cover losses. this is short term as the high bond market sell off increases the bond prices and then the fed has to step in with QE or some alternative aka printing money. HODL, and HODL hard because this is going to be a boon for the the larger BTC community.

xXMrGoodKat

It may sound complicated at first, but before worrying too much about charts, prices, or finding the perfect entry, or Holding....I think the first thing you should do is structure yourself financially. **1. Get your regular finances in order first.** Separate the money you actually need from the money you're willing to invest. Have money for your normal monthly expenses, some savings, and IDEALLY an emergency fund. Bitcoin is volatile, so you don't want to be forced to sell BTC during a bad market just because your car broke down or you suddenly need cash. The money going into BTC should be money you can realistically leave alone for years if necessary. **2. Decide how much risk you're actually comfortable with.** Don't invest an amount that will have you checking the price every 10 minutes or panicking when BTC drops 20–30%. Bitcoin has had much larger drawdowns historically. Decide beforehand what percentage of your savings/investments you're comfortable exposing to BTC. **3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.** That applies both to your investments and to how you store your Bitcoin. You don't necessarily need everything you own concentrated in BTC, and as your BTC position becomes significant, think about whether you really want 100% of it sitting in one place. You might eventually have traditional investments, cash, BTC, etc. And within your BTC holdings, you might keep a small amount accessible while putting your long-term holdings into proper cold storage. **4. Learn storage BEFORE you accumulate a large amount.** At the beginning, keeping a small amount on a reputable exchange while you're learning isn't the end of the world. But if you're planning to accumulate BTC long term, learn what self-custody actually means. Learn about hardware wallets, seed phrases, backups, passphrases, and recovery procedures. Most importantly, understand that self-custody gives you control, but it also gives you responsibility. If you lose your keys or expose your seed phrase, there may be nobody who can reverse the mistake. Don't rush into complicated wallet setups you don't fully understand either. Simple and secure is better than sophisticated and confusing. **5. Take security seriously from day one.** Use a unique password, 2FA, secure email, and be extremely suspicious of links, DMs, "support agents," giveaways, and people offering to help you with your wallet. Never give anyone your seed phrase. Never type it into a random website. And don't advertise publicly how much BTC you own. As your holdings grow, your security should grow with them. **6. Keep records of where your BTC came from.** This is something beginners don't think about enough. Keep records of your purchases, dates, amounts, prices/cost basis, exchange statements, wallet transfers, and transaction IDs. Moving BTC from an exchange to your own wallet isn't the same thing as selling it, but years later you may need to demonstrate where those coins came from and what you originally paid. Good records can save you a massive headache later. BIGT TIME! **7. Learn taxes, AML/KYC BEFORE you need it.** People spend years learning how to buy BTC and almost no time learning how they're eventually going to turn some of it back into dollars. If BTC becomes worth substantially more someday and you want to cash out, understand capital-gains taxes, exchange KYC requirements, AML/source-of-funds checks, withdrawal limits, and how your bank handles large transfers. A legitimate large withdrawal can still generate questions from an exchange or financial institution. That's another reason to preserve a clean history showing how you acquired the BTC. Don't wait until you're trying to cash out a large amount to figure all of this out. **8. Have an investment plan instead of reacting emotionally.** Decide whether you're DCAing, buying larger corrections, or using some combination of both. Decide roughly how much you're willing to invest per month/year and what would cause you to stop buying. You don't need to predict every top and bottom. Having rules helps prevent FOMO when BTC is pumping and panic when it's falling. **9. Think about your exit plan even if you're a long-term holder.** "HODL" doesn't mean you can't have a plan. Maybe your goal is to hold for 10+ years. Maybe someday you'll sell 10–20%, recover your original investment, buy a house, or gradually take profits. You don't have to know the exact price today, but you should understand what you're actually investing *for*. Basically: **Finances → risk → buying strategy → storage → security → records → taxes/AML → exit strategy.** Once you build that foundation, Bitcoin becomes much less overwhelming.

Lvrker2Poster

should not have done lumpsum to start, but thank God I HODL instead of selling. I'm now seeing green, and I hope this pattern continues while I DCA.

Nrs_Vecna

It's the New updated version of HODL.

TheOtterSpotter

Misspelling is the lore behind the original HODL though