HODL

TheresNoSecondBest

HODL & DCA is the name of the game, mate. You cannot time the beast.

Scary_Metal2884

We did a study of the ETF IBIT, HODL, BTC. Both IBIT and HODL have lowest slippages. IBIT fees are much higher than HODL. IBIT has a deeper order book in case you are afraid of moving the market with your orders. I eventually went with HODL for lower fees

ImpressiveRelief37

And also taxes suck. I prefer to just HODL. I don’t even add to my position, it wouldn’t make any sensible difference.

Old_Cat_9534

First time buying sub 100k (AUD) since Aug 2021, that's crazzyy but still, feels good to stack sats and HODL at a discount.

pass341

No because when you’re investing in something that is quintessentially useless, sooner or later sanity will prevail… Literally exactly what happened with Gamestop yeah? Or AMC lol… All of it valiant in the moment, but time moves on and people stop caring. You can HODL all you want but sooner or later that which has no utility will become irrelevant. No amount of hype, FOMO or diamond hands can save you from that…

Floppy-Rivers

HODL Hold on Dreams longterm.

usedmattress85

I quit HODL’ing. Sold my entire bag at $110k when the Larsson Line flipped, waiting to pile back in. I suspect we’ll have a little relief rally and some sideways moves then a final leg down to the bottom. Never HODL and bear markets become the most exciting phase that happens.

Finentce

I started my Bitcoin journey in 2023. All I've known is up. I thought that the "Noobs freaking out about a dip" and "First Time" memes were over exaggerated. I was wrong. Riding the roller coaster down in the range of 50% from ATH, I get to see it with my own eyes. Even now there are multiple posts on the front page of r/Bitcoin with hundreds of engagements _freaking out about the dip_. Welp, guess they didn't do their research. _We_ saw this coming. I can't help but think as I see them, "Must be their first time". DCA, HODL, and Chill friends.

_JamesDooley

Man I ain't spreading shit lmao I just don't care. HODL and chill no matter where the price goes shouod be everyone's motto. Just don't ever pretend you know shit (and this goes to the first guy too)

Anonymous_Lurker_1

Personally, I plan to HODL long term. I'm thinking another 10 years. I'll see where we are then. You might want to check your ISA rules. I believe if you're holding actual BTC, ISA's aren't eligible after April, and you won't get the same benefits as you do currently. I held IB1T on T212 too and sold around Christmas time. I think T212 will just automatically cash in the value and you have to open an IFISA instead. I am still considering IB1T again though. Keep what I have in cold storage, and let T212 manage my keys. Against the BTC ethos, I know, but I want to cover all bases. I do think MSTR is worth having too - though I haven't got any currently. When I did have some MSTR, I held a few others too that performed well whilst BTC was around ATH - check out GLXY, HIVE, RIOT and MARA. I simplified my stocks into an All World ETF and a few individuals with small allocations, but I am thinking of lump buying some of the above again. When BTC rips, BTC-related stocks rip more (though they drop more than BTC drops too).

GreedVault

it looks like you are pretty much forced to HODL.

_JamesDooley

I DCA since around 2 years ago and I'm down 20%. I don't even care, HODL and chill 👍🏻

bitski44

HODL. There's a tool I use called Never Sell Your Bitcoin that has a lending calculator. The whole idea is you never sell, and if you ever need cash you borrow against your BTC instead. Worth checking out at [https://neversellyourbitcoin.live](https://neversellyourbitcoin.live) to see how your $4k could grow over time.

parkdanks

I literally had a dream last night that Bitcoin was at $10,000. Felt sad but still bought more. HODL.

Vakua_Lupo

HODL!

Cold_Respond_7656

That’s incorrect ETF name & symbol Fee Grayscale Bitcoin Mini Trust (BTC) 0.15% Franklin Templeton Digital Holdings Trust (EZBC) 0.19% Bitwise Bitcoin ETF (BITB) 0.20% VanEck Bitcoin Trust (HODL) 0.20%* Ark 21Shares Bitcoin ETF (ARKB) 0.21% iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT) 0.25% Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund (FBTC) 0.25% WisdomTree Bitcoin Fund (BTCW) 0.25% Invesco Galaxy Bitcoin ETF (BTCO) 0.25% CoinShares Bitcoin ETF (BRRR) 0.25% Hashdex Bitcoin ETF (DEFI) 0.25% Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) 1.50%

Shaykh_Hadi

Good move. HODL

BaldGuyAce

Oh the irony that a guy who is this bad at math wants to HODL

Blockchainauditor

On this subreddit, you will be encouraged to move the BTC to a non-custodial wallet and HODL. If you need to give them 1 penny to move the $4k of BTC to your own wallet, it is a scam.

GoodFaithGPT

Forever HODL, there is no endpoint. You can't time the market, so let the market time you.

Numerous-Annual-721

buying bitcoin with no-kyc is easy. ever getting your money out is a different story. there's no bank that will deal with bitcoins of unknown origin, not to mention you will have a very hard time proving what you paid for the bitcoin for tax purposes when you actually try to get your money back. no-kyc is for drug dealers and people who believe HODL or die. since you're looking at taxes, you're not a HODLer.

BoomQ9966

HODL and delete crypto app until next bull market

Dalhia_Moon

HODL is a lifestyle at this point. 💎🙌

Osobnost

Yes, trailing buy is good and I’m using it. But for long term HODL, it’s not very efficient. Another downside is that the buy amount is set in BTC, so beginners need to calculate it in USD by dividing USD by the activation price. In the end, you will get roughly the same amount of BTC, but you save some capital if the price goes lower.

B-Boy357

All BTC baby!!! and HODL FOR 5 years📈

OwnHelicopter7255

Bitcoin hasn’t survived a serious market crash yet. Don’t use COVID as most dumbasses spent there stimulus money on the junk pushing it higher. All the smart money has been selling on the backs of the stupid HODL’ers. You’ll see soon enough tho. This crash is terminal

TheHollowed_Knight

I do too, but I’ve yet to meet a time traveler that can time the market because they know the future, so all I -we- can do is DCA and HODL.

alxkwl

I love the platform. Buy eth, supply on AAVE, borrow USDT at 40% LTV while prices are low and the interest cancels out, buy BTC. HODL. Wait for previous ATH and unload.

uncle_romulusX

HODL. In 2-3 years it will make sense. Then next time spread out your total investment money better so you can handle the volatility better. Ask me how I know lol. Good luck and see you in a couple of years. You’ll be fine.

TheresNoSecondBest

HODL & DCA is the name of the game, mate.

mickalawl

What are you offering though? Is it Just paying $20 gas to HODL useless tokens and/or swap with other useless tokens or stake to get slightly more useless tokens that are magically minted? A 1000 chains a day are created that do all this. A 1000 more will be created tomorrow doing the same thing. Most will be $0 by this time next year. What real world value do you offer. Besides a fun way to exract fees for miners.

omnipotentnothing

Or just DCA and HODL and stop trying to time and outsmart the market. You will never miss a bottom or a bull market if you just DCA. You can also write off some of the losses while the market capitulates during the bear.

Blueberry_Dependent

Because some people HODL a bunch of shitcoins for 4 years and when the time came for them to pump ...guess what... they went even lower so now they have to hold another 4 year in hopes of price movement not to make profit but to get their money back. If they sell now they lose 90% of their investment. Just wonderful.

tem3rair3

HODL!

aaj094

Do you deny there is institutional adoption? https://x.com/HODL15Capital/status/2020886423314768134

nem3sis_AUT

HODL.

Successful_Ad_380

Posts like this make me realize we're still so early. HODL.

Imagination_Drag

Personally i am watching and waiting for $50k. I could easily be wrong but i dont see any real use cases for bitcoin beyond scarcity so i want to trade it not HODL it. One big risk is more forced selling by smaller “treasury” firms. I dont think MSTR is going to have to sell but smaller firms may.

TheSoggyPops

In for 15k Up to 26k Down to 8k I should’ve took profits I was just wasting for 30k which 2x seems reasonable in crypto. Guess not. I’m going to start DCAing again now. And just HODL my positions I guess. Lots of alts. But they are already down 90% so the only risk is they go to zero…

XapoBank

It’s a great point. Ten years ago, a drop of over 50% would have felt like a retail panic; today, it feels like institutional rebalancing. We’re seeing that the 'New Rules' are much more about macro liquidity than just the 4-year halving heartbeat. In this more mature environment, the 'HODL playbook' is evolving. It’s no longer just about holding through 80% drops; it’s about managing your position with professional-grade discipline. Many are finding that a conservative 40% LTV is the new benchmark for staying resilient. It allows you to participate in the 'Supercycle' potential while recognising that Wall Street introduces a different kind of volatility than we saw in 2017 or 2021.

OutlandishnessLimp25

Fire away and HODL

geditaza

HODLers gonna HODL, buyers gonna buy, scared people gonna scream.

WhiteNinja3

HODL and buy with confidence

ZannyNanny23

Cardano hasn't done anything in months I dumped my bags like 4 months ago it wants looking good then and it seems like it's doneite get a bounce but I'm good off the HODL ada plan.

Gainzster

Just send it to me, I'll HODL forever so you don't have too.

petenorf

If it's definitely going down, why is everyone intent on screaming that from the rooftops? If people get washed, let them get washed; that's the market in action. I'm HODL till death, and I'm ok w my decisions. Also somebody should tell the government that.

Alfador8

For the uninitiated, 6.15 BTC is a meme started by American HODL years ago. According to him, 6.15 BTC is the key to eternal riches and big tiddy bitches. 

Nementon

Bitcoin, like any fiat currency, has inflation. Maybe stop repeating what others say without thinking. 🐧 Bitcoin will likely keep falling this year, and that’s nothing new for it. Sell now and buy twice as much later, or HODL to death and beyond.

Advanced-Summer1572

Bitcoin is not a "Stablecoin". I see a lot of comments conflating the two. Bitcoin is collateral in the eyes of banks as of two months ago. Bitcoin is the future of digital stores of value. If you want to spend your gold or silver? Good luck finding a store that will assess it, chop it, and negotiate a fee that is commercially recognized . Then give you a product that reflects that agreed upon price for your precious metal. Bitcoin has a readily available price and is easily converted to fiat currency. Also easily verified via its Blockchain. If you are on an exchange, a simple push of a button can convert your Bitcoin to whatever currency you are wishing to use. Coinbase has a credit/debit card that allows you to do all of this while standing in line to make a purchase. That is the difference regardless of what you may read about a "use" argument. There are handheld calculators that have been in use for years at markets in third world countries that allow for the conversion and use of Bitcoin for commerce. Stablecoins older the tokenism of modern folding currency. Banks don't want to offer interest or rewards for holding Stablecoins. It is what us currently holding up the passage of the Clarity Act by our US Congress HODL

SteadyGridProfits

Honestly, crypto cards are a fantastic idea and everyone should at least consider them. They let you spend your crypto, earn a little back, and show real adoption in action. That said, a lot of them feel like prepaid cards—you still have to sell crypto, load the card, and then spend it. That extra step keeps most people away. Add in minor trust concerns, tax reporting headaches, or just plain laziness, and adoption stays low. I’ve used one myself and had a lot of success with it. If you believe in crypto, it’s a small but concrete way to actually use it, not just HODL. It’s one more step toward mainstream adoption, and honestly, it feels good every time you do it.

Blueberry_Dependent

Buying is easy, a few clicks away but without knowing what you buy how you can protect it and HODL something you don't understand? You understand it, you learn then price goes 85% down - You don't care, you don't panic selling like crazy , simple as that

Dnlaly

I’ll HODL to the next ATH

Solareclipse9999

Looks like we found something else to HODL

peakperformance81774

HODL. When the boat is in a storm you do nothing. You just power through the storm. If you keep the faith that you will SURVIVE this storm, you will… Nothing but rainbows after a storm. Knowing you kept the faith the rewards are for your harvest. 🌈

AzLoMax

HODL to zero and buy the dip of the dip of the dipty dip ✊🏻

Scuttlefuzz

Those are the blue chips I am talking about. If you bought SOL/ETH at the peak last cycle, you barely made a profit on paper, more than likely they held assuming it would higher and are now at a loss or sold at a loss. Same goes for XRP except this applies to 2018 top blasters. New alts that can run on hype can probably see some short-lived gains but alts in general are not in a good spot when BTC is now the only one that can truly break new ground cycle to cycle. I think the "speculation" phase for long term alts is done, it's going to take real use cases and adoption to have sustained upside. Those charts are not going to paint a pretty picture with the way things are going. Of course you can always be a cycle trader, buy the pico bottom and get out whenever, but viewing these as HODL because it's never going to zero might be a big mistake.

TooFatNoFurious

„Yeah uhh it‘s like some internet magic bean that‘s essentially useless but it was the first crypto currency. Most of it is owned by rich people and institutions that just hold it. I hold my 0.004 Bitcoin as well and hope the line goes up. Yeah bro it‘s like digital gold you know. Use cases for the blockchain and crypto? No you just hold. Oh but we call it HODL cuz it‘s fun. Wait where are you going, I need to tell you about them evil central banks“

Advanced-Summer1572

This sounds like a person who is making a verbal book report before the entire English class and has only read the synapses on the cover. What is up with these posts on Reddit? Most are pure nonsense. I have to get back to work. But they used to be fun to read and sometimes informative? Now? Just say anything negative about crypto and the other camp followers upvote. Oh well. I do have other things to do. Just letting go of Reddit. Too bad. HODL

erjo5055

HODL to zero? Really? First time? This is normal and lower than usual volatility. Shouldn't be in crypto if you can't handle it

KFC_Tuesdays

Brother this group is like a herd of sheep they only think “HODL” or “DCA AND HODL” or “May go up may go down who knows” Just a herd of sheep riding the wave, you are correct buy the dip then sell the highs. I suggested this at peaks with a post I made but deleted in this group saying this cycle is following last cycle. I got ridiculed for this idea, yet I followed my plan and well looks like it did eventually follow last cycle. Think for yourself look at history, take profits and you’ll make money.

TapThatYak

Here's a level headed approach for you all that was passed down to me, but also is fundamentally common across youtube. Some short analysis followed up by the easy way to sell out. Lows in percentages down from ATHs: 2017, \~84% 2021, \~75% 2025, \~52% so far This can be used as a guide. Volatility has gone down, therefore he highs and lows are contracting. One can expect a higher than average possibility that this cycle will be down between 62-66%. That puts us in a fair overall drop to $43-48k. (Realistically drop to 50k will be the psychological barrier) Percent increase from Cycle low to cycle low: 2014 low to 2018 low: \~1900% increase 2018 low to 2022 low: \~380% increase 2022 low to current low: \~270% increase If we touched 45k, it will make the low to low from prior cycle will be \~180% increase. Seems low, but once again volatility has come down quite a bit. Let's look at cycle low to cycle highs: 2014 low to 2017 high: \~11500% increase 2018 low to 2021 high: \~2000% increase 2022 low to 2025 high: \~690% increase What's the takeaway: You're never gonna time things 100% correct but you can about 50-70% depending on what metrics you look at and how you DCA. Hint, consider buying when the weekly RSI is below 30 and monthly RSI is below 45. Right now, I assume next cycle worst case will be below 690% increase from this year's cycle low to the next high. Say you buy now (70k), and the cycle low hits 50k this year, and we go up 600%. This puts us at 300k BTC price, that's a 428% return. Say you sell on the way up, 10% at 150k, 15% at 180k, 15% at 200k, 20% at 230k, 20% at 250k and perfectly time the last 20% at 300k. That gives you average sell price at 228k, yielding at \~325% increase. You pulled roughly 54%, 325%/600%, of the overall cycle low-cycle high bitcoin gain! If this happens across 3 years, congrats you just achieved 48% annualized gains. It takes mechanical discipline. If you want your sanity to grow a family and as a person, it's absolutely necessary. If you're wealthy enough and don't care, congrats HODL for the next 3 cycles.

Cryptotiptoe21

Just buy spot and HODL

botch07

You don’t get it, yet, I’ve tried what you’re going to try, and every time I ended up panic buying back in at a higher price. Just buy and HODL. You’ll thank me later.

DBA1000C

My two cents: OP just wants to introduce a new word (on purpose), like the original “HODL,” and hopes to be remembered for it.

The_Nothing00

If it was an ultimate hedge, my portfolio wouldn't be red after 2 cycles of HODL nonsense.

Advanced-Summer1572

Yep! If investing was easy? Everyone would do it. HODL

SteadyGridProfits

Respect the conviction 🙌 That’s a bold move, and I get the logic with RSI this low and support coming in. What’s your plan of attack from here—pure HODL or scaling in over time? I’m always happy to share my playbook too. There’s a pretty safe way to stay conservative and still potentially 2–3x without going full risk-on. No pressure at all—just open dialogue. Either way, I respect the move. See you in five years 🚀🌕

Impossible_Seat2775

HODL oh wait i actually have to pay for stuff, cya

Corbiusk_

HODL, from where you bought it may take two years or a little less to get profit but you will get profit. Personally I wouldn’t dca, I would take that money and go into stocks. Touch grass and don’t look at this portfolio till early next year at the earliest. Tell your partner you will be fine; you invested in quality sir. You must bought towards the top. Relax and just chill. Screenshot this

N1Philip

Thats the risht HODL mentality right there!

syKonaut

Props to you my guy. I don't see what the issue about stating a fact is. It is not a gloat. You sold the top? That is what you are supposed to do. These idiots just want to round trip profits constantly it seems. Can't HODL forever..you would just be losing all your money then.

Treece-57

Never invest what you may have to utilize within 2-10 years - HODL is no joke

Aggravating-Buy-1695

Just HODL. Your friends are shaken out. Scared money don’t make money.

Osobnost

The author is a newbie, which actually means he can easily use a smart DCA strategy on every dip. We are currently about 45% below the ATH, so with this approach he can realistically achieve a 100% gain once the price returns to ATH. Whether it takes one month, one year, or four years does not really matter. Where else can you realistically get a 100% return even over four years? On top of that, he has a much easier position than we do. My average price was 29k before the drop and now it is around 49k. So even when I buy during dips, I am increasing my average price. That is simply my strategy. If the author splits his capital into at least five parts and buys after every 5k drop, he can be profitable quite easily. It is simply HODL combined with a smart DCA strategy and requires almost no time investment. If you want higher returns, you need to move to smart automated trading, which requires a bit of your time. If you want even higher returns, you must dedicate all your time to manual trading, because it is a full time job. As long as BTC is under 1M, it is always a good time to buy.

GreenStretch

The wallets and exchanges earlier people started with are now called trash in all the crypto spaces. Some really were, like Mt. Gox or FTX. Don't use Gemini! Use Strike! Use River! Are the new ones better or have their flaws just not been exposed yet? Normies are going to do what Brian Harrington and British HODL advise, whether they watch youtubers like that and buy the bitcoin through Blackrock or Fidelity.

RandomJoe7

Well that's exactly what I'm trying to get at. The "HODL"-mindset that is spread so often here and adopted by "noobs" has nothing to do with investing responsibly. It's a bad tactic, it's lead by emotions etc. Which is why I made this post, not to try to explain anything new to people who already know this (obviously), but for the many people (especially on this sub) who clearly fall for the same bad tactics that are being spread again and again.

RandomJoe7

Well that's exactly what I'm trying to get at. The "HODL"-mindset that is spread so often here and adopted by "noobs" has nothing to do with investing responsibly. It's a bad tactic, it's lead by emotions etc. Which is why I made this post, not to try to explain anything new to people who already know this (obviously), but for the many people (especially on this sub) who clearly fall for the same bad tactics that are being spread again and again.

RandomJoe7

Sure, but imagine having sold at 100-120k.... to be able to rebuy even more now (that being said I wouldnt buy now, I think it's going even lower towards later part of this year). And that's exactly what I learned from my previous "HODL" cycles: HODL costs a lot of money, one can make so much more without the HODL mindset. One should never be "emotionally attached" to an investment.

daredevil707

buy for long term and HODL.

RandomJoe7

It's a few months later, do you still feel the same way? It looks like the "diamond hands" are getting burned (just as I got burned last cycle because I bought into the "HODL" narrative). No hard feelings, I tried to warn you with my post. :(

Frosty-Feeling338

Yea , do as you like , I HODL

Kalelofindiana

If you're the person inheriting her money 🤑 it's ok! Just HODL

Advanced-Summer1572

Institutional Investors are loading up in this discounted asset. These political posts are interesting, but adoption continues. Retail investors and hobbyists are very nervous. HODL

No_South_9912

BTC does have the benefit of the most HODL of any crypto, which would prevent it from going to zero.

Character-Ad-5367

Youre panicking. HODL, take extra mcdonalds hours, buy more. Thou must serve the dip before you buy the dip.

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Advanced-Summer1572

The majority are very young people that simply want to be involved in the discussion. Unfortunately their view of the world is through video games of competition and offense. This is not hatred, it is their view of interaction. Some of us call it "contrary behavior"...it is deeper than that. It seems to be centered around dominance. This makes it impossible to have a discussion with them because that would require giving up their dominance. I doubt many actually own any cryptocurrency and definitely never owned Bitcoin. HODL

Stunning_Cancel6467

I think we're entering a phase where everyone who wanted to own Bitcoin has some. I would consider selling some of your holdings while there's still buyers as those HODL too long will find out there will be few willing buyers. I sold most of mine at 80K and don't plan to buy more.

scintillatingsin

Im expecting BTC to hit 46-56k region at some point. If you plan to HODL, don’t freak out with the draw down. Worst case bear market bottom 25-35k

IBAN-IBON64

Boomers piss you off HODL

IBAN-IBON64

HODL

Same-Plane-635

People are not understanding the Blockchain market, they think it's get rich quick. It's actually "get really rich" but with patience and focus. Who ever spends money on HODL. The major chain coins in the long run, only they will be net positive

CFinnRun

It’s all good HODL

TheresNoSecondBest

Zero day trading here. HODL & DCA only. Just having a bit of fun, mate. Try it.

Nossa30

Because he did the right thing HODL. We all keep saying it, but for a reason. It works and Im also living proof. Trying to time the market is only for insiders and the just plain lucky.

AffectionateSkill631

My average buy price 82k i think. I dont feel great about it. I dont have money to buy more but luckily I don't need the money so I am going to HODL

Right-Caregiver-9988

I’m gonna stick to stocks… Apple alone has outperformed BTC over the last 5 years. I used to love SOL and LTC but crypto is too volatile, addictive and stressful for me. If I’m gonna HODL anything it’s gonna be a tangible asset.

Nossa30

Everybody thinks they can time the bottom. The reality is we never do. Best to just HODL.

azar_dep

I can always make more blood. HODL HODL HODL 

bitski44

Congrats!! Great timing. The Bitcoin Power Law is running at a -44% deviation. Should be an easy HODL ride up from here.