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Foreign-Concept-1184

This article almost sound prophetic. However, it cannot distinguish crypto currency from meme coins. That is the difference. Crypto is functional and evolutionary. Meme coins are novelty coins like cabbage patch dolls or pet rocks. .that is the difference. Fiat currency is in its final days. Cryptocurrency is inevitable. As for Bitcoin? HODL

cyclik

I love this. All of it. I love watching it all. HODL 🥇

cooltone

Ok. As retail you have no chance of calling short-term volatility, when a bubble collapses and when the bottom is exactly. So we need a different approach a low frequency approach - i.e. long term. Using the term HODL is a bit vague for me because what you are relying on? For me that thing is adoption and arbitrage , which appears to be following a Power-Law. See by power-law.nl and on YT look up Geoffrey West to see why power-law are applicable. To cut a long story short; buy closest to the floor price as you can, then you should get 34% CAGR. This CAGR reduces every year reaching 16% CAGR in 20 years. In the meantime there will be bubbles and since you buy at the floor it's all upside. We are not quite at the floor today. [This Bitbo chart](https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/) tells you the time to reach the floor price (scroll down). Currently it quotes 7 months, so you'll have to wait that long before the 34% CAGR starts. Of course short-term you might get an upside, but that's difficult to predict. Anyway, just my opinion, what do I know, I'm an idiot. And my opinion, 7 months is not a bad wait. Last week it was 5 months. Who knows how long you will have to wait tomorrow.

jmorais00

What's a profit? Does that involve selling? HODL

Sweet_Coach4530

HODL

Treece-57

Bro - chill lol this is nothing compared to FTX collapse pandemic dump. The worlds ok ✅ HODL

SteveW928

There is software available if you want to literally match the letter of the law (which vary based on jurisdiction), and calculate gains on each transaction at the exact time it happened, etc. Another approach, which I believe matches the spirit of the law, is to move your buys, sells, and what you HODL through wallets you connect to such software, and then have spending wallets (Lightning, and maybe on-chain too, depending on the size of your purchases). Then kind of like when you take cash out of an ATM, the capital gains happen when you fund the spending wallet, and you're not tracking every Lightning latte payment at the exact time it happened (as you already paid the capital gains when you moved it to the spending wallet). Of course, the 'spirit of the law' approach above would be off by cents or a few dollars if the price of Bitcoin swings wildly, but in general, I think that is what the gov't is after, unless they are literally trying to trap people on the letter of the law. Of course, like many seem to be expressing here, you can also just do a 'screw you' to the gov't, and hope there are too many doing so to prosecute. But, since hardly anyone does no-KYC, if they ever actually try, they'll easily catch these people. But, as long as they are paying taxes on major sells... are they going to go after them for the missing $10? At the end of the day, make your own decision and do what you feel is fair. There are tools available to do it any of the ways above, if you want to put in enough effort.

omg_its_dan

K. I will continue to HODL

tnseltim

Maybe they just plan to HODL

HaMMeReD

Without exchanges, crypto is worthless. The only thing that gives it value is the speculative trading aspect. If you need to pay gas/network fees to use a CEX it removes like 90% of what people want from crypto. Basically it's a huge hit towards liquidity, and without liquidity it doesn't have much supply/demand to inform the price. If everyone HODL's, it's completely worthless. So it's not great for transactions (gas/fees are worse than tax), it's not great for fraud, and hodl'ing it is only good if there is a market you can sell it on. But honestly, people won't smarten up to it.

SeriousGains

Probably should have been more specific. DCA HODL **BTC.** Have I bought and sold other coins? Of course, that’s where greed comes in. Haven’t sold a single sat in 8+ years.

Arceus411

Oh baby I love when things go on sale. HODL

SeriousGains

Who said you have to be the biggest winner to benefit? Everyone chasing greed will lose. DCA HODL remains undefeated.

Ok_Pipe6417

Forced HODL mode engaged.

manuel_794629

HODL is a long-term strategy with a five-minute refresh rate.

OmgwutaB

HODL and wash

ComparisonMelodic967

New HODL successor?

SeriousGains

SAFU -> safe HODL -> hold

Grizly2000

down voting HODL in a BTC sub?

Grizly2000

It's not worth dealing with taxes just HODL

KarateKid84Fan

HODL my beer

Business_Fox_1975

Retail Fear, tech stocks dropping like crazy. BTC isnt really a HODL thing anymore. BTC is all about riding the wave and capitalizing when you can now.

ProfessorShanks

Don’t sell it. It’s already invested. Don’t ruin your fathers HODL

Lucky-Campaign-8965

HODL 10 years and don’t pay attention to the price or anything else. Don’t tell anyone you have it when you are rich. Private key. Then you can spend it slowly when it hits highs.

OutlandishnessLimp25

Smart imo and good on you for doing the work to have the conviction to do such. I think you’ll be happy with this decision. HODL

0a0d0s0

Agreed, the spread is the real finding. The stack size is mostly a bet on the price path, with a spending plan attached. I think you’re right about flexible spending, and it should matter more for bitcoin than for stocks. Every dollar you don’t spend near the bottom saves a lot of coins, because each coin raises so little there. The one catch I’d watch is timing - bitcoin bear markets tend to sit near the lows for a year or two, so a cut that only lasts 12 months might end right when you need it most. The simulator doesn’t model that. Spending only goes up with inflation, so I can’t give you a proper number. The closest I’ve got is the HODL or Fold game, where you can choose to spend 25% less for 12 months when the price drops, on real price history since 2013. It’s a rough way to see the effect, not a proper test.

baltaruiz

Don’t worry. Just HODL. Keep them in Mt. Gox…

H8ckt1v1st

I buy many services with BTC, dinner, electric bill, utilities, etc. Hotels, etc. HODL is a different topic

Katolo

I don't understand how this makes any sense. - bitcoin as payment - bitcoin replaces fiat - HODL, 30 year horizon - DCA, keep stacking - to the moon Surely people understand the first two statements contradict the last 3? Either btc is just an investment vehicle or it's replacing fiat, it can't be both.

4pocketsfuls

HODL🚀🌌😬

Sin-City-Sinner

Great! Another 24K and you’ll have a full one, HODL my friend!!

BreakInfamous1195

It sounds like you have enough to not have to sell at all. HODL and borrow against it if you need cash.

Virukev

Just keep it. Let it ride. HODL

morphyhu

Born with nothing, you are right. HODL

Successful_Ad_380

If BTC is not a "safe investment" then there is no safe investment. If BTC "gets hacked" then everything gets hacked. No investment anywhere matters, your money on the bank won't matter, that is, if that happens. I think there's a lot of fear surrounding AI including pessimism. It's not for nothing that our adage and core maxim is: HODL.

SimpleMoonFarmer

1. Buy, DCA. 3. Leverage when it dips, to buy more. 4. Buy more when it keeps dipping, to keep collateral levels. 5. HODL when it goes up. 5. Repeat from 1.

M45K3DG4M3R

January 28th 2021 will no longer be known as they day they stole our buy button... But as the day where the apes of the world declared in one voice! WE WILL NOT SELL QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT! WE WILL NOT SELL OUR SHARES (OR COINS) WITHOUT A FIGHT! WE'RE GONNA HODL ON! WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON! TODAY WE CELEBRATE OUR DIAMOND HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOO-HOO!!! YEAH!!! FUCK YOU HEDGIES!!!!!!!!

MCL-Jonathan

HODL at least a one full cycle (4 years), beside you bought at the bear market, so congrats on getting in the right timing

jmorais00

You bought an entire BTC at once? DCA my dude Also, -3% is a walk in the park. HODL

Alt123Acct

🚨🚨 BITCOIN HAS COLLAPSED. FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN JEOPARDY. 🚨🚨     Bitcoin just dropped $3. THAT’S A WHOLE 0.003% OR WHATEVER.     THE CHART IS RED. THE VIBES ARE WORSE. 🚨     SELL YOUR HOUSE. SELL YOUR CAR. SELL YOUR CLOTHES.     SELL YOUR WIFE. (She’s probably already in a 100x leveraged short.)     The institutional investors are panicking. Whales are crying. Satoshi has been spotted updating his résumé on LinkedIn.     My $47 portfolio is down $0.14. I WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS.     🚨 EMERGENCY FED MEETING AT WENDY’S PARKING LOT IN 10 MINUTES.     If BTC drops another $2, we’re reverting to a barter economy. Start stockpiling canned beans and USB-C cables.     IT WAS AN HONOR LOSING MONEY WITH YOU ALL. 🫡📉     #Bitcoin #BTC #CryptoCrash #HODL #WeAreSoBack

Foreign-Concept-1184

Who cares? It is adoption. Keep it. If course China will accept any increase in the international markets. Excellent! If they had destroyed it or said it was useless? That would have impacted financial markets. This affirmation of the value in holding Bitcoin. HODL

YingYangBoomerang666

HODL and *buy* in dip

CyberChuckle7

The HODL button only works if you close your eyes and delete the app.

Iamtutut

HODL and live your life.

ChemicalSomeFish

Best part is he can't check the price every five minutes. Perfect HODL conditions.

Blockchainauditor

1) Are we forgetting the breach involving Trezor’s shipping provider in August? 2) If we have no business owners, isn’t that a big problem? 3) If our life goal should be to HODL BTC, how does ANYTHING get done? Where does the electricity to run the PC come from?

After_Club6421

FOMO. Just through HODL.

Big_Pie_3616

my advice it just to buy major altcoins and btc and HODL

Grizly2000

Aren't people using BTC globally offline with pagers or old phones? Bitcoins zero counterparty risk. Quantum well it effects normal banks too so. I believe in BTC more then $ HODL

Foreign-Concept-1184

It is a limited supply opportunity. There is no reason, other than the current leveraging strategy, that can possibly make this go to zero. LOL. No offense intended to all of the Reddit geniuses. Most were around seven years old in 2009. HODL

DepthHorror9528

People always try to make sense of the price. It's impossible. All your models will be destroyed. Just HODL works.

SpendHefty6066

Run a node. Don't let fiat price swings enter your emotional state. No FOMO no panic. Live below your means. Focus on your craft. DCA, HODL, watch the hash rate securing the network and the blocks tick tock on your node, not the fiat chart. Remember, honey badger dgaf about price.

isunktheship

What did he say? #BUY MORE AND HODL?

sumpyrromach

The only realistic bear case is government overreach going full 1984 on on-ramps and self-custody. It would crush short-term fiat price and cause massive volatility. But honestly, that just proves why we need it in the first place. You cant ban the math or shut down the network itself. Worst case, it goes underground for a bit, but the fundamental need for hard money will always win out. HODL strong.

sicknal

We don’t, we HODL!

Queasy-Ride4291

Hell yea, in about 10,000 more years, BTC will also have a 29.1T market cap. All we have to do is wait. HODL!!!

TheresNoSecondBest

Exactly zero influence. I'm a simple man, I buy bitcoin and HODL it in my own air-gapped cold wallet.

Stoic-Mindset

Only HODL.

Valuable_Paper_6231

Oh man, haven't got the memo yet? HODL and pump it. Simplicity itself!

NankerPhelgeRahrig

HODL

OutlandishnessLimp25

Usually the harder decision is the right one. Enjoy your freedom! HODL

gamezjunkie

Just HODL. You just picked the wrong possible period of time to start doing it, but still, you will get big money in the future. Just trust in BTC. It will only get more valuable with time.

TheresNoSecondBest

That's just another shitcoin, mate. Zoom out to 10 years and compare it to BTC. It's constantly losing value in sats. I wouldn't HODL it long time.

Rahim556

HODL

CrazYforGold

Pizza for the low price of 10,000 BC 🤣 I still wonder about that guy. Anyone knows if he continued to HODL?

Ok_Review_784

I fully agree. I don’t understand the gambling. Just DCA and HODL. Wins every-time.

praise_the_most_high

Never even spend it , just HODL indefinitely

stamaton

Patience doesn’t pay off after just two years. HODL even stronger.

12buklmashu

Or HODL

SpendHefty6066

Agreed. Limits plus DCA and HODL is a solid stress free accumulation strategy.

RewardFuzzy

You are supposed to trade it for goods and services. Stop the HODL!

Tex_Buttinski

Bought in October 2017. 6k per coin. 30 months later I was back at square one. HODL

aladeeninyourmalawa

You need one full cycle at least. HODL and chill. Give it another 2 years.

sheeeeeeeeei

Can I prod for a second? Do you view buying bitcoin as “destroying your cash to acquire bitcoin”, do you believe fiat is worthless? And do you believe it is embarrassing to buy bitcoin with said Fiat? Is it sketchy and untrustworthy and a stain on your career to buy BTC with fiat? To me, kinda is. It means you are paying the electric bill of the miner. And now you must HODL. But really, to be honest, buying BTC always seemed like a losing game, when there is a new block every 10 minutes. You’re just not doing the full work, you’re buying BTC that someone else did the work to create. BTC has always been cheap AF until recently. Sorry, I just have a weird perspective on buying bitcoin, and trading it at all for FIAT, or vice versa. Everyone should own some bitcoin , right? So in a way you’re taking a handout by buying BTC, and the person selling it has no true understanding of the value of said BTC. Embarrassing deal overall. But I still sure do wish I bought some BTC back in 2012, instead of being a stuck up pri- I mean person, in the way that this comment illustrates about me.

Lemon-Tuna

only lose when you sell. HODL

OutsideWishbone7

“Deep” was that a deliberate phrasing for “dip”, kind of like HODL was a misspelling of HOLD and became a life of its own? We should adopt “deep” to mean a crypto “dip”, I like it ❤️

Hitachi22

In the early days Litecoin just marketed itself as a faster and cheaper Bitcoin, "digital silver". Also as a test net.  They should have shifted narrative to a store of value to protect against currency debasement since it's a fixed supply coin. Low fees and fast confirmation is not enough to add value. And Charlie Lee telling his followers to HODL while dumping his bags on them didn't help.

Nikky-B-

Well we’re a lot of people that have been f\*\*\*t over the years in crypto. I’m down around 8k in 2 coins because I was new and naive. But at the same time I’ve learned the lesson and now I’m somehow glad I did because I would probably be losing more money if I didn’t get burned. Now I just HODL one coin and bide my time for a few years.

Lunican1337

LTC is one of the most widely adopted and USED coins out of all. Kids in here thing of everything as it its full purpose is to HODL and invest. But Litecoin is one of the few that really holds up to what Bitcoin was created for in the first place

33halvings

Stack and HODL is the way

Sunnyjim333

DCA, HODL. That is it. No leveraging, just HODL. Now you know.

MondayOctober

Stop asking questions. just HODL or not. 

TheresNoSecondBest

I still HODL because the fundamentals are exactly the same as one year ago at 115k or two years ago at 58k. Yes, the price keeps changing but **the most decentralized network in the world** gets stronger every year, no matter the exchange rate.

SippingInMountains

I check the charts every day, multiple times a day. I'm from class of 2020, and my HODL plan is 20 years+.

RareVibeDelight

Nobody knows exactly when the next bull market will arrive, but the whales 🐳 aren’t accumulating Bitcoin for nothing! I’m thinking long-term, not chasing short-term predictions. HODL, keep stacking sats, run your own node + verify and enjoy the journey! 🧡💎🙌

RareVibeDelight

HODL! 💎🙌 Ignore the noise, keep stacking sats, and think long-term. Bitcoin rewards patience, not panic. Run your own node and stay sovereign! 🧡🚀

RareVibeDelight

Absolutely! 🧡 HODL I believe in Bitcoin long-term and its 4-year halving cycles. The next halving is roughly 1.5 years away, followed by another in 2032. I’m thinking decades, not months. Keep stacking sats, run your own node, and enjoy the journey! 🚀🧡

Foreign-Concept-1184

You do understand what Bitcoin bis part of. Anyone planning a sell date for a limited opportunity? They are either an investment company that doesn't own the coin, but is housing it for a group or a government that intended to use Satoshis as the cornerstone for the next evolution in currency. Even then the plan is not to "sell" it, but to use it for the next step. Not that wantibg a better car, or house or hooker or cocaine. Just that you don't understand the nature of Bitcoin. HODL

Foreign-Concept-1184

The beautiful thing about adoption? If the idea is innovative and has utility? Nothing can or will stop it. Bitcoin will endure. Fiat is the gateway. SATOSHIS RISE! HODL

TalkZealousideal3889

Use long-term moving averages. My advisor was able to purchase 55% more Bitcoin in Sept 2026 than Dec 2025 sold. You do not need to be perfect to beat HODL, just use a long moving average.

wikidemic

This is the eternal **HODL**

yell0w8

if there's one coin that proved you need to HODL, it's Quant

TheresNoSecondBest

>Do you actually see yourself holding it for the next 5–10 years Already doing that. HODL is the easiest strategy. >do you have a price in mind where you'd sell everything? There's no reason why to do that at all. Even if it goes to $1 gazillion, it just proves it's much better money than the dollar. Why would I "sell everything?" To have the dollars that keep melting down?

Porcellanidae

Everybody thinking that HODL stands for Hold on for dear life is wrong, this is the original HODL post: [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0) Back in 2013 this guy's girlfriend went to a Lesbian bar, and he got drunk AF. Hodling Bitcoin. I hope he is hodling the majority of his Bitcoin to this date !

Dragnskull

this is the most recent lesson I've learned. I jumped on the HODL bandwagon years ago and never got off, i've seen great growth because of it but recently realized if i would actually sell during the ATH's and jump back in after the inevitable crash I'd make a ton more. problem is I don't know where the top is, so think I'm going to start planning out a "Step off the ladder" approach where once it hits an ATH i pull a little out here and there locking in some profits while waiting for the rollercoaster ride to drop so i can jump back on

Icy-Chemical6699

This is the only comment that matters …they literally make the money, can’t stop people from embraceing it, and want to give away what would rather have ? HODL …”this is a test of the emergency broadcast system”

PsychologicalBit803

Yeah I get what you’re saying. The whole BTC system is just becoming another asset controlled by big banks. 90% of trading and price manipulation is by futures trading which is institutional investing. If you really want to know what’s going on with the price look at spot buying/selling. That tells the real story. I just learned a couple years ago this is the way it is. ETFs pumped billions in the system but now they also control the pricing greatly. Certain people follow these things closely so I listen to them daily to get a better picture where the market is going. I 100% believe long term in buying BTC. I encourage my younger family to DCA. I trade daily on futures exchanges but id never encourage that without spending a lot of time getting educated. Im about a year in on a two year education journey myself before I will start trading significant amounts. Still very much learning but it’s been eye opening. Absolutely lost some money early on but I fully expected to. I planned it out and treated this investing as a business. I keep it totally separate from my usual spot buying of crypto. I’m a BTC HODL guy also. Just no reason you can’t participate in all of it. Takes the right mentality and great discipline to trade daily but overall it really isn’t rocket science. Much more about proper risk management. So many great resources these days online. Great people to follow that made all the mistakes and help you not repeat them. Lots of money to be made on up or down days. Doesn’t matter but you have to dedicate yourself to getting educated on reading charts and knowing when to get in and out. All very learnable. I enjoy it a lot and allows a great deal of freedom now and I only see it getting better. Looking forward to the start of the bull market in the next year or two.

sQtWLgK

OP implies that they have more coins which they HODL; they'll be fine. That hurts only if those were all the coins.

abercrombezie

Safest way to HODL? You don't even need a wallet. You just need a seed and a recipient address. Once done HODLing, you only need a wallet to spend.

ReservedXM

If you couldn’t interpret my humor, this is what I ment. Regardless of price, just stack says and HODL long term (20-30 years). Thank yourself then…