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Kilimainjaro

Exactly. It's hilarious to see this likely-fraudster-of-a-whale's would-be defenders here plead that his massive wins must be all "skill"; I mean, setting up a $735 million BTC short, which along with a massive ETH short, yielded Garrett Jin a $200 million profit, just 30 mins before Trump made his fateful October 10, 2025 tweet threatening 100% tariffs on China and suspiciously convenient collateral depegs occurred on Binance (the largest and most manipulative of crypto platforms, formerly headed by the convict Changpeng Zhao), leading to the biggest liquidation event in crypto history and wiping out $20 billion and 1.6 million traders? Pure luck and/or pure skill? Uhhhh, no. This Garrett Jin character has a shady past. He was CEO of BitForex from 2017 to 2020. The exchange was later accused of falsifying trading volumes and flagged by Japan’s Financial Services Agency for operating without registration. In 2024, BitForex lost $57 million from its hot wallets, froze withdrawals and ultimately shut down after its team was detained in China. Hong Kong’s SFC later issued a warning for suspected fraud, and users claimed millions in unrecovered funds. Following BitForex’s collapse, Jin founded several ventures, including WaveLabs VC (2020), TanglePay (2021), IotaBee (2022) and GroupFi (2023). Most of these projects have since become inactive. In 2024, he launched [XHash.com](http://XHash.com), a staking platform that allegedly funneled ETH from questionable sources. When investigator u/emmettgallic posted about Jin’s potential involvement in insider trading relating to the October 10, 2025 shorting windfalls, Jin's social activity changed abruptly: Telegram privacy settings were updated, hiding his phone number and photos. References to u/XHash_com disappeared from both his X (Twitter) and Telegram bios. These actions, combined with prior wallet correlations, strengthened suspicions that Jin sought to obscure public ties to the whale operations. And you can bet on it that the Trump Cartel, with their history of profiteering from meme coin rug-pulls (19-year-old Barron Trump, for example, reportedly now has a net worth of $150 million thanks to his own meme coin), and their crypto-friendly allies in the administration, such as the Lutnicks (Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick's firm, Cantor, now run by his sons Brandon and Kyle, miraculously had its best year ever in 2025 and is on track to post revenue of $2.5+ billion), managed to make windfalls from the crypto crash of October 2025. There's a reason Trump pardons people like Changpeng Zhao, one of the most influential people in the crypto world - follow the money. With Trump, always follow the money. He essentially sells presidential pardons like the medieval Catholic Church sold indulgences. Over the past year Trump has rewarded dozens of convicted fraudsters, drug traffickers, tax evaders and unregistered foreign agents with presidential pardons. And it stinks all the more when, soon after doling out one of his bought-and-paid-for pardons, Trump suddenly feigns amnesia. Asked about the pardon he gifted to Changpeng Zhao, Trump said, "\[I have\] no idea who he is". Only the guilty deny the truth.

Money_Bet3057

ETH and Ripple actually show value to them. Bitcoin is literally a popular Dogecoin. It does nothing, merely for trade and being the first. Like anything that was first, it crumbles and gets taken over by more useful assets.

CryptoNerdSmacker

RLUSD transacts on ETH Mainnet and XRPL. Currently RLUSD volume is around 80/20 split respectively. USDC can also do the same but I suspect RLUSD will slowly become the top stablecoin. It’s very compliant, the most. Highest graded. Couple that with this banking interface and its marketcap should grow quick. Already has, look at its marketcap graph. Exponential curve.

MaximumStudent1839

Thought only alts had this over concentration problem suppressing price. It turns out BTC/ETH suffers the same at higher magnitude despite how Saylor and Lee is printing billions of stocks to raise new buys.

CryptoNerdSmacker

This deal basically just linked ETH and XRP to ACH directly via RLUSD. From ACH they’ll Segway into FES, etc. Huge news for XRP and ETH. The upward pressure on them from RLUSD will be substantial.

WhiteHartLaneFan

10% Crypto split 60-40 BTC and ETH

Nearby_Iron_4222

Based on outcomes alone, he’s made several impressive calls on Hyperliquid and Polymarket, but whether those came from inside information is ultimately less relevant. What really matters is his background, position structure, and overall risk exposure. With experience as an exchange director, CEO, and later a founder and VC, he likely has a strong understanding of market structure, liquidity, and sentiment inflection points. That said, the current risk profile is far from conservative. Running 5x on ETH and Bitcoin using roughly 60% of available margin, combined with a 20x long on SOL fully in cross margin, effectively concentrates correlation risk across the entire book. In a systemic move, losses would scale non-linearly. I’d view him as someone worth monitoring rather than a strategy to mirror. His edge lies in access, timing, and risk tolerance, which are not easily transferable to most participants.

Knight925

I am not even talking about the supply. The block rewards are mostly an incentive for miners to use real energy to secure the blockchain. I prefer an actual limited supply, as stead inflation would limit the price longterm. But this really has nothing to do with my point earlier. It is the actual energy consumption that we want and need. Who decides which transactions come into the next block? The transaction fees and miners decide who get's into the next limited size block. If mining was free (no energy consumption) then who would get to decide the next block? Currentlly it is the fastest miner on earth, the one who wins the mining-lottery. And because it is decentralized a different miner could create the next block every time, meaning that every transaction has a chance to get into the block. Transactions can not be prevented, because we have decentralized miners. How would the next block decided without proof of work? There isn't really any good option besides proof of work with it's energy consumption. The next best thing is proof of stake, but it is not even in the same ball park of decentralization and resiliance. With proof of stake typically the people who own the asset create the blocks by having the job go around between the holders. That means if the holders band together with a big stake, they can censor transactions between them. And permantently and at no cost, as just holding the stake is enough. Smaller holders become irrelevant while the big oligarchs control the chain. And while Bitcoin mining incentivises decentral mining, spreading around cheap energy sources around the map, proof of stake incentivises centralized block creation or at the very least has no incentive against centralization. Therefore proof of stake is just less secure, risks becoming centrally governed and can be censored. There is a reason why even the biggest proof of stake, ETH, has very few validators and is highly centralized compared to BTC. ETH would drop dead without the Ethereum foundation, while BTC needs noone. You can destroy half the earth with all it's people and Bitcoin just continues on the other side without a hitch. The energy consumption of Bitcoin is a managable amount for the world to provide. And it is a cheap price to pay for the one decenralized and independent money that humanity needs and will have. It is the first time humanity came up with a solution for decenralized digital money and as to our knowledge it is the only way that works. Everthing else is just tech stocks.

Flamboiant_Canadian

Literally. Everyone is always doom/gloom during periods of bear market activity, but it is literally the best time to be buying.  Maybe not so much for BTC because it is still priced insanely high compared to the bear market low of $15k, but ETH is down almost 50% from the recent high, and most alts are at a lower entry price now than they were during the last official bear market.  I know damn well I will be when I get my bonus next week. 

TekatoZikame2

Yes! I managed to sell all my ETH but didn't do BTC. That was a mistake.

gamefidelio

Wintermute market maker is short top crypto markets like ETH, BTC, SOL and lately market makers are printing like there's no tomorrow. https://preview.redd.it/kox4scra7t6g1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e874af1e6e7428b090b9f18a071e485e37ffd1b Track Wintermute's current trading positions inside [**Nansen analytical tool**](https://app.nansen.ai/profiler?promoCode=ChainROI&address=0xecb63caa47c7c4e77f60f1ce858cf28dc2b82b00&chain=hyperliquid).

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tldr; Oobit, backed by Tether, has launched in the U.S., enabling crypto payments via Visa across all 50 states. Users can connect non-custodial wallets to pay with cryptocurrencies like BTC, ETH, and USDT, which are instantly converted to fiat for merchants, avoiding crypto volatility. Partnering with Bakkt ensures regulatory compliance, enhancing trust. This innovation bridges crypto ownership with practical use, signaling progress in crypto's integration into daily commerce. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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namieorange

BTC exists and pumps. ETH brings use, adoption and with other coins future and they barely move, if lucky to not just dump. Amazing market

obolli

I think people kind of miss an important point I made in the post above. I have been impressed and a little bit in awe of his calls. But this dip, and draw down does actually make me more impressed. Look at the second screenshot above. He couldn't fill the order at once without moving the market massively. But also he pretty much timed the current dip to a dollar. He split 180k ETH into 1.2$ step 300 ETH a piece orders, which are now almost completely filled. Quite literally his orders are the EXACT dip 3300 until 3030, every 1.2$ 300 ETH he literally buys every single liquidation out there right now. Feasting. So I don't know if he will still lose or win. But if he wins this is makes me much more skeptical of calling Garrett "lucky"

obolli

he's 9/10 on HL and 17/18 counting his spot position trades, more if you add polymarket. I'm not saying he's right, but imho i think he's more skilled than lucky. Also you might miss the point of these orders, he placed a large 180k ETH 600+ Million order split into 1.2$ steps in 300 ETH a piece all the way from 3300+ down, he calculated this exact dip to fill his position including the drawdown.

Tallwhitedude123

You mean ETH

obolli

He's actually buying all the liquidated users right now, note he's planned for the price to go down all the way down to 3030, still has 9000 ETH of orders left to be filled

glizzy_goblin710

Well that settles it I was thinking of diversifying my crypto portfolio a little today buy selling some XRP and adding some ETH lol, guess I’ll go through.

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whatsaburneraccount

long 3095 ETH 5x, see ya in valhalla

rorowhat

It goes against what the crypto was meant to be. It's totally centralized and controlled by a few validators. However. This gives it a lot of speed and they can make changes faster vs a decentralized approach where it needs consensus and all that stuff. It's made for wall street. SOL can 2x its price and still be 1/2 of the market cap of ETH.

WellPayed

Feels like BTC ETH SOL & XRP about to pump

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Abdeliq

Every time someone commits fraud and buys crypto, headlines act like crypto was the crime. Bro, the problem was the scamming, not the ETH he aped into.

GroundbreakingPage41

Yeah and that Solana was going to go to 0, there’s no reasoning with them. Ethereum barely beat its ATH, they’ve shit on other chains for the same exact thing. This is a sub full of ETH maxis begging for their mythical payday.

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Post is by: obolli and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1pkqltu/the_insider_who_shorted_oct_10_is_entering_a/ You can follow along live here: [https://wangr.com/watch/0xb317d2bc2d3d2df5fa441b5bae0ab9d8b07283ae](https://wangr.com/watch/0xb317d2bc2d3d2df5fa441b5bae0ab9d8b07283ae) This is the insider some associate with the CPP, Trump etc, his track record is 9/10 200+ Million in profits. Note he still has massive BUY orders which would increase his ETH position by another 30'000 that haven't been filled yet. From 3150 to about 3k, he's currently still buying every dip. Garrett Jin is an ETH Billionaire who famously shorted the October 10th crash with a similar sized position as of today. Last night he placed a series of Long Buy Orders for ETH From 3300 down to 3k, the filled orders put him at about 500 Million Dollars in ETH 92 Million in Bitcoin and 35 Million SOL. His Bitcoin Orders and SOL Orders have been fully filled. ETH is still buying every dip. Currently 8 Million in profits. Garrett Jin [https://x.com/GarrettBullish](https://x.com/GarrettBullish) is a trader who has an Economics degree from boston university. He's made a few great "lucky" calls on Hyperliquid and Polymarket. It's unclear where his information comes from but he usually is in line with trump tweets, some say spies from the CPC in Trumps office feed it to him, others say he has his own sources. Either way it's someone worth watching with this history. Garrett was a director at Huobi, CEO at Bitforex, before founding his own company (ETH Staking) in Hong Kong and also becoming a VC. He has 5x on ETH and Bitcoin, using about 60% of his available 240 Million Margin right now. He's more confident on SOL one could say or willing to take a bigger risk. 20x long. Everything is in Cross. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

MinimalGravitas

I partly agree with this article, but it is only telling half of the story. There are two types of adoption happening right now, and the author only mentions one of them: * The article talks about traditional finance taking onchain assets and putting them into their packages, ETFs and treasuries etc. I agree that this isn't real adoption and is not beneficial to crypto in the long run. This is the value of crypto being taken and wrapped into the legacy financial world, meaning, as the author points out, any benefits of self-custody, peer to peer transactions etc are removed, and instead a bunch of middlemen get to extract trading fees while reducing crypto assets to purely 'greater fool' speculation. * However the article neglects to note that the opposite is also happening. Assets from the traditional financial world are being tokenized and brought onchain. Banks are spinning up L2s and using crypto networks as the rails for tradfi products and projects. This type of adoption adds value to crypto rather than extracting it, and shows the route by which crypto can actually win in the long run. I have never been excited by ETFs wrapping BTC or ETH and taking it into a bank's custody, or for billionaires like Saylor buying bitcoin and just selling shares. But Larry Fink talking about tokenizing everything in his chairman's letter, EY (one of the 'Big Four' accounting firms) running an Ethereum conference, Deutsche Bank deploying an L2... as part of the international 'Project Guardian'. in fact just yesterday the DTCC (the entity that settles the vast majority of securities transfers in the US) published confirmation that they have been authorised to offer tokenization: > Under the No-Action Letter, DTC is authorized to offer a limited production environment tokenization service across L1 and L2 providers. https://www.dtcc.com/news/2025/december/11/paving-the-way-to-tokenized-dtc-custodied-assets To think that banks selling ETFs is the only type of adoption is really short sighted.

Funnyurolith61

Binance as an exchange, CoinStats for tracking crypto prices and portfolio, Phantom as Solana wallet, Metamask for ETH and EVM chains

MariachiArchery

Stocks are a little different because we are almost always converting to cash when exiting a position. You would never be trading Amazon shares for Google shares. You'd always convert to cash. Crypto differs in that we can swap BTC for ETH, or USDT for SOL, for example. Neither of these transaction involve cash, but they are both taxable events. It's a little different.

Jazzlike-Code5891

Adding ETH is temping too

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tldr; $4.5 billion in Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH) options are set to expire today, December 12, 2025, amid cautious market sentiment and thin year-end liquidity. BTC's price is $92,249 with a max pain level of $90,000, while ETH trades at $3,242 with a max pain level of $3,100. Balanced call-put positioning suggests contained volatility, though traders remain cautious due to macroeconomic factors and ETF outflows. Long-term momentum holds, but near-term catalysts are needed to break BTC and ETH out of their current ranges. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

GreenStretch

On coingecko or coinmarketcap [https://www.coingecko.com/](https://www.coingecko.com/) [https://coinmarketcap.com/](https://coinmarketcap.com/) Coinmarketcap wouldn't let me sort by volume and scroll down. their figure for DAI volume is $68,974,686, fairly far down on the list of the top 100. Coinmarketcap shows a figure way below USDT, BTC, ETH, and USDC. [](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/multi-collateral-dai/#markets)

SeriousGains

I believe e his new number is ETH 30k by EOY 2026

Ok_Golf_6467

Don't forgot 10k ETH 😅

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tldr; Ether (ETH) price is showing signs of recovery as spot Ether ETF inflows have risen by 28% since Nov. 21, reaching $21.5 billion. This marks a potential shift in market dynamics, with aggressive sellers weakening and taker buyers returning. However, ETH faces resistance near $3,450 and support at $3,000. A bullish breakout could occur if demand zones hold and ETF demand continues to grow. Conversely, a breakdown below key support levels may lead to further declines. The market remains at a structural crossroads. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

WrathofTitus

Sure buddy, keep telling yourself that 🤣. I've been doing this long enough that I never tell anybody how much I trade, but I will tell you what I do in a choppy sideways market.....grid bot trading. BTC is up .54% & ETH is still down 2.75%. Indecisive choppy sideways price action.....perfect grid bot trading.

Buddy_Palguy

My $9.96 of ETH turned into $10.16 literally overnight Lambooooo time

AdUpper1710

ETH Multi-Timeframe Update Added 15-min & 30-min timeframes to Overlay. All three show bullish: 15-min: 83.3% bullish, 66.7% confidence, target $3,209   30-min: 77.8% bullish, 55.6% confidence, target $3,214   1-hour: 77.8% bullish, 55.6% confidence, target $3,209 Key insight: Confidence INCREASES as we zoom in (66.7% on 15-min vs 55.6% on 1-hour). This suggests strong immediate momentum. All timeframes agree = stronger signal than usual. For your DCA strategy (bought $3,070, added $2,700), current levels look solid for accumulation. Real price ($3,200-3,210) vs median target ($3,209) = 0.03-0.28% accuracy. Short-term bullish across all timeframes, but remember these are intraday signals - weekly/monthly structure could still be bearish.

strongboy54

80% restaked ETH, 20% stablecoins on ether.fi so I can spend it, while earning interest and cashback.

piggleii

On my X timeline, it's all just ETH bulls predicting a bright and rosy future for Ethereum and ETH holders.

sirporter

This is the problem with all cryptos outside of BTC and ETH.  We already have the store of value with BTC. Almost all other L1s will be out competed by ETH L2s because they inherit the security and network effects of ETH’s L1.  The only advantage those L1s have is marketing. 

TravelandFoodBear

ETHs inability to follow through with a green candle is worrisome, selling pressure is relentless. Rarely have I seen such an ugly and pathetic looking chart. Well at least the stock market is green, I would have probably jumped of a cliff by now if I wasn't heavily invested in US stocks. Better not to think about how much of my money BTC and ETH has evaporated over the last 5 years when I add the devaluation of the dollar, inflation and the loss of purchasing power since the last cycle. Us Euros got absolutely obliterated

WrathofTitus

Ah, you're one of those reddit crypto bros that voted for Harris 🤣. Our wonderful President could make BTC US legal tender and you'd still think he's bad for crypto 🤣. Thank the Lord nobody takes leftist redditors seriously. Not sure why you linked to the ETH chart. The BTC chart shows a very dramatic downtrend right after your boy Powell made his hawkish comments.

WrathofTitus

Ah, you're one of those reddit crypto bros that voted for Harris 🤣. Our wonderful President could make BTC US legal tender and you'd still think he's bad for crypto 🤣. Thank the Lord nobody takes leftist redditors seriously. Not sure why you linked to the ETH chart. The BTC chart shows a very dramatic downtrend right after your boy Powell made his hawkish comments.

VariatCA

ETH's breakout will happen only after its asset-tokenization infrastructure has been implemented on Wall Street, and enough of its ownership has been properly scooped up at an affordable price. I still remember what interrupted its brief rise to a new ATH back in late-August. In the middle of the day on a low-BTC volume Sunday, someone placed a *10,000 BTC spot sale* all at once that drove Bitcoin down over $4,000 in minutes, and it properly chopped the legs off Eth's rally.

Ill_Bee6659

I don’t doubt you’ve had issues… but I just did a large purchase (split 10k BTC, 10K ETH) and it went smoothly. I was on Kraken Pro, which I’ve been told is the best option. Were you on standard Kraken or Pro?

Medium_Change4574

What's ETH survival now? Hitting the same ATH every 4 years?

KIG45

Regarding stocks tearing apart cryptocurrencies. Buy Bitcoin mostly because everything else (except maybe ETH) is an absolute casino. The whole point of the manipulation is for the big guys to own all the Bitcoin. Don't sell! Bitcoin Last year 69.5% Last 5 years 955.0% Last 10 years 38,906.1% S&P 500 Last year 10.1% Last 5 years 116.3% Last 10 years 244.8%

LargeSnorlax

What would the value proposition of buying alts near the top and at the end of the cycle be? They're only ever going to go one direction. You'd be hoping that Bitcoin hits all time high again and I don't see why you would. Not really into fortune telling but I think if this cycle at all follows previous ones you'd see a bottom somewhere around 50-60k, or [prices like this from last February](https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20240218/) ETH was actually holding up well then - Same with SOL, all the rest of the alts dropped off a cliff though, so if you wanted to buy them you'd probably buy them after Bitcoin bottomed a bit more. That being said, there's huge money flowing into the Bitcoin price now - Will we actually see a big dip like the past or will it just kind of flutter around 80k for a while as the "bear market"?

FlapJackson420

Excuse my ignorance. When these institutional investors make a half Billion Dollar ETH purchase, does get reflected in the price chart? Is there a small upwards bump in price, or is even a purchase that large just a drop in the bucket? Ty

northcasewhite

I would never fully cash out. Keep some money in BTC and ETH.

nomoney110

Apart from BTC and ETH, nothing will survive in the long run.

jabbarpk94

Honest advice: Stay away from these shitcoins! If you absolutely must buy some, then wait a few months to a year and buy them around $1000/$30 (ETH/SOL).

jawni

Honestly, I never understood the appeal of Cardano from 2017 onward. The better question is why it had such lasting popularity despite not really doing anything better than any other chain and doing most things worse than other chains. >Cardano has low fees, smart contracts and fast transactions. Cardano has the highest fees and the slowest transactions. You can't even really argue, just compare fees, only ETH L1 and Tron are going to compare(and they get used 100x more), everything else is cheaper. And on block times Cardano has excruciatingly long blocktimes, so it's slow as hell. It also took forever to get smart contracts. >It's meant to be the scalable alternative to Eth. I don't think it's ever been more scalable then ETH. Just as an example look at this block: https://beta.cexplorer.io/block/cb0d72572e3b52fda542a1755c4d4291bb21de0bc6cc854283f9da0a438716a9 This block took about 40 seconds and processed 50 transactions. Those 50 transactions took up 80% of the block. If we fill that block with similar transactions, that comes out to ~60 transactions. 60 txn / 40 seconds = 1.5 TPS There are scaling solutions, Hydra got hyped up with Hydra Doom and has actually been usable for a few years now, but no one uses it. Probably because it's akin to a state channel and not a very good option for general purpose scaling. Leios is the other scaling option, but still not ready. Supposedly it will 60x scaling, but even with 60x'ing Cardano's throughput it wouldn't be that impressive. >What does does the future hold for Ada and is there any hope for a return to the hay days? Need to find something Cardano can do better than other chains, something with the eutxo gives them an advantage. People kept saying it was going to be the liquidity/defi chain for native BTC... clearly that hasn't happened.

Distinct-Thanks-6477

The experienced fellas know exactly what to do in these situations. Being brave enough to buy quality dips always works out well. I have loaded up ETH, AIOZ, and TAO religiously all through this turmoil. Expecting the most from AIOZ due to how cheap it is.

HolyMotherTheresa

The insider trader is obviously extremely stupid. Yesterday he was $30 million in profit on his ETH long, and then, being greedy, he opened an additional long when ETH started dropping. He didn’t take any profits and is now only up about $700k lol. There’s no way this is some experienced trader, more likely someone with Trump-level IQ.

Newbieisme3

This is just crypto doing crypto things. Seen it a hundred times already. Nothing "broke", just one bad macro headline, some panic selling, or a wave of liquidations, and boom, everything dumps together. BTC sneezes, ETH catches a cold, and the others may end up in the ER 🤧

lomoos

just suprised this happens that fast as i created the wallet minutes before made a single transaction with no ETH attached, and left it be.

FabulousPlum4917

Investing in ETH or SOL can make sense, but it depends on your risk tolerance. **ETH** is the more stable, long-term option with a huge ecosystem behind it. **SOL** is faster and cheaper but also more volatile, so it comes with higher risk. A lot of people split between both to balance things out. Just remember, crypto is unpredictable, so only invest what you’re comfortable losing.

VariatCA

*Another* positive day for ETF inflows for both Bitcoin and Ethereum. +$57M for Eth today, and +$223M for Bitcoin (+193M of that was Blackrock, their highest 1D inflow in weeks). That makes about +$540M for BTC inflows and +$570M for ETH inflows since the November 20th lows.

Lonely_Holiday_6376

SOL is a great coin to trade or hodl for a longer while, but also btc, ETH and so many others. Always remember that the value of your investment can go up but also go down, it sounds corny and shit, but most people seems to think charts of ‘their’ coin will only go up….. I am deep into BRIT now, very high risk play, did a 10x already but I expect it to grow another 10x or even 100x in the coming time…. Maybe diversify your money a bit, invest for instance 5 times $100 in the next months. Just take time to DYOR.

hplovecraft1977

Thanks again for the detailed feedback — you basically became my QA team for the day 😂 Everything below is already live (just pushed the build 5 minutes ago). 1. **Signup font color** Fixed for good. Dark-mode CSS conflict is gone — text is now clearly visible on every theme. 2. **Paper-trading timeout / execution error** Root cause found & killed. The engine was stupidly waiting for the full AI analysis before confirming the trade. Decoupled it → paper trades now fill instantly (<500 ms), AI just journals in the background. Tested 50 BTC/ETH orders — zero timeouts. 3. **What “Hide Garbage” actually does** It auto-hides stuff that’s mathematically untradeable for scalping: • RVOL < 50% of normal (dead volume) • Super thin order books (you’d get rekt on slippage) • Price basically flat (< 0.1% volatility, pure chop) You can lower/raise the strictness or disable it anytime in Settings → Filters. 4. **AI flipping from Strong Buy → Strong Sell in seconds** That was painful to watch, sorry. Old model was overreacting to every tick. New rules (live now): • Won’t call “Strong” anything unless RVOL > 1.8× AND price moved > 0.8% AND sentiment agrees • Added a proper neutral/choppy zone so tiny moves don’t trigger bipolar swings BTC right now is correctly showing “Neutral — Low Conviction” instead of freaking out. 5. **What the AI actually uses** Not just volume anymore — current mix: • Relative Volume (RVOL) vs 20-period average • Order-book imbalance & depth • Bollinger Band squeeze / volatility regime • Quick social sentiment pulse (Reddit + X trends) If anything still feels janky, keep swinging — I’m glued to the dashboard fixing stuff in real time. Seriously, thank you for helping ship a better v1 on day 1.

Zealousideal_Rain_79

In order to have an altcoin season you need a few classic signals. BTC pushing into a new ATH or hovering right near it. BTC dominance dropping hard, ideally under 50% or at least showing a clear downtrend. Capital rotation: first BTC, then ETH, then large caps, then mid caps, and finally the low-caps/shitcoins. Retail piling in once the hype gets obvious, TikTok kids, normies, the whole circus. That’s the typical recipe we’ve seen in previous cycles. But here’s the thing: In my opinion, these conditions aren’t lining up this time. BTC looks like it has already finished its cycle, and current market data points more toward a coming downturn rather than a blow-off top or rotation into alts. So I don’t think we’re getting an altcoin season in this cycle. The signs just aren’t there. From the way things look, a crash or at least a strong correction seems more likely in the near future.

VariatCA

I couldn't give anything resembling a fair estimation. It really depends on how long individuals have been in the crypto space, if they were buying the established and more heavily-adopted coins like BTC/ETH, if they practiced in averaging-down or DCA'ing over time, etc. Though if you've been in crypto for more than 2-5 years by now... if you've been steadily buying BTC/ETH you are most likely still in profit. If you just gamble on memes/altcoins, you are probably *way* down.

ComplexWrangler1346

You sound brand new to crypto ….i guess you weren’t invest in April when bitcoin dropped to 75k and ETH to 1350…this is nothing

hplovecraft1977

Quick update: already added SOL, ETH, BSC, Base, and Arbitrum pairs. Working on Polygon and Avalanche this week if people actually use it :)

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Ok_Field461

Dozens of coins are coming out every second litterally it fuck up the whole market for the majority. No one is willing to hold crypto long enough so it all just dries up. This is why good project dont take off any more. Ada and xrp are just sitting duck at this point. And the new coins never get chance to establish good gains long terms. It all about dumping. Even ETH is affected by BTC coming down it really shows it doesnt really have its own eco system. So for long term btc is the only way to go unfortunately.

DBRiMatt

I'm bullish on my ETH/USDC liquidity position. High volume, and pretty consistent trading range for the most part xD

BottomTimer_TunaFish

I can agree that not all coins will run up because there are simply too many of them. Mostly the projects with utility and adoption will reward holders. Most of the pointless and vaporware tokens may not go up much. Only a small portion of the useless coins like meme coins will perform those 20, 50, 100x gains. Where I disagree with is the claim there won't be alt season. I believe there will be at least one more alt season if the business cycle recovers to healthy levels in 2026. Altcoins have always had their season whenever the business cycle peaks. Altcoin index and business cycle charts look the same, especially when normalized to oscillate around the zero value on the y axis. I have BTC, ETH, and altcoins, so I'm definitely not biased towards one class of coins or the other. I think all 3 can do well.

Illustrious-Boss9356

Crypto has done exceedingly well for me. Although I'm what you all would call a BTC maxi. Maybe if people stopped buying new projects because they don't want to enrich the previous group, we would get there faster. But most newcomers I know hate the idea of buying BTC and ETH because others discovered them before them. They'd rather try to find the next BTC or ETH and end up right in the hands of rugpullers. Read the recent article buy the Aave cofounder, the shit's a casino and you are not the house. House wins. Buy BTC.

Itur_ad_Astra

Because the fate of every crypto except BTC, ETH, BNB and stablecoins is to go to zero. Not 99.6% down. Zero. Check the alts from 2013, you will find maybe three that still exist.

216_Cleveland

Sorry this happened to you. Losing money in crypto - even $40 - sucks and feels scary. Let me help you figure out what happened. **Short answer: This is NOT normal for legitimate wallets.** **Here's what likely happened:** **Option 1: "Best Wallet" is a scam app (most likely)** There are TONS of fake wallet apps on app stores designed to steal crypto. They look legit, work at first, then steal your funds. If you can't find "Best Wallet" on any reputable crypto site or it has sketchy reviews, this is probably what happened. **Option 2: Syncing issue** Less likely, but possible - the app lost connection to the blockchain and isn't showing your balance. Your crypto might still be there. **Option 3: You lost your recovery phrase** When you reinstalled, did you use your original 12-24 word seed phrase? If not, you created a NEW wallet, not restored your old one. **What to do RIGHT NOW:** 1. **Find your transaction on a blockchain explorer** - Which crypto did you buy? (BTC, ETH, etc.) - Go to the appropriate explorer (blockchain.com for BTC, etherscan.io for ETH) - Search for your wallet address or transaction - See if the money is still there or if it was sent somewhere 2. **Check if "Best Wallet" is legitimate** - Google "Best Wallet crypto scam" - Check r/CryptoCurrency for mentions - Look for reviews 3. **If it's a scam app:** - Report it to the app store immediately - Post warnings so others don't get scammed - Consider it a $40 lesson (expensive but not devastating) **For next time - How to avoid this:** **ONLY use these established wallets:** - **For beginners:** Coinbase Wallet, Trust Wallet, Exodus - **For advanced:** Ledger, Trezor (hardware wallets) - **For Bitcoin only:** BlueWallet, Muun **Red flags for scam wallets:** - Promises of "guaranteed returns" - Requires you to deposit to "activate" - No clear company information - Very new app with few reviews - Generic name ("Best Wallet" is suspiciously generic) **The golden rule:** If a wallet isn't mentioned frequently on r/Bitcoin or r/CryptoCurrency, don't use it. **Your $20-50 budget is PERFECT for learning** - just make sure you're using legitimate tools. Start with Coinbase (the exchange) and keep your crypto there until you have $500+, then move to a proper self-custody wallet. I got scammed early in my crypto journey too (lost way more than $40). Now I track crypto safety and common scams weekly to help others avoid what I went through. Free newsletter at www.cnsplanet.net if you want to stay updated. **Can you tell us the exact name of the wallet app?** I want to warn others if it's a known scam. Don't let this discourage you from crypto - just use better tools next time.

Advanced-Kale2014

Wow, that’s a wild ride! Honestly, your story is a great reminder that in trading, luck plays a huge role, and going all-in, even after winning, can wipe out months of gains in a heartbeat. The fact that you barely broke even shows how close you were to disaster. The takeaway isn’t just about ETH or crypto, it’s about risk management. Set stop-losses, use reasonable leverage, and don’t let past wins trick you into thinking the next move is guaranteed. Treat your second chance as a lesson...discipline and patience usually beat greed in the long run.

VariatCA

QE steadily restarting = more liquidity Inflation = more liquidity Rate cuts = more liquidity Meanwhile, ETF inflows for the last 2 weeks are over +$300M for Bitcoin and +$500M for ETH. Meanwhile, Bitcoin is back up $12,000 and Ether is back up $800 from November's lows *while there has been $33 billion more in short-volume than long-volume.* You're missing the forest for the trees while staring at just short term volatility.

EarningsPal

How is it all BS when someone can actually profit and live from Defi? You obviously can’t if you don’t have assets already. But you can take BTC, pair it with ETH, then use that token as collateral and then borrow usd from it for spending. Same as JLP. You can keep using work earnings to buy more JLP and then borrow USD using the token as collateral. JLP gets trading fees and the upside of SOL, BTC, ETH. You just have to stick to the plan for a few years and so far the gains have out run the loans. The volatility is the problem and the solution. The dips suck bad. But you just have to accept them and hope you are right in the long run. That the market will rebound and you will see another round of all time highs.

Advanced-Comment-293

Devil's advocate: low fees means ETH is slightly inflationary, since the fee burning is lower than staking rewards. The whole "inflation vs fixed supply" discussion is quite prominent amongst investors so that could be a risk factor.

VariatCA

- QE picking back up for the first time in 4 years on Dec 12th to the tune of $40 Billion/month - Rate cuts further dropping making liquidity even more accessible - Clear indicators of ETF (Retail) inflows turning positive over the last two weeks since November's low, with over +$300M for BTC and +$500M for ETH - Powell still projecting at least one more cut in 2026 *while all his successors are publicly chomping at the bit to accelerate rate cuts if elected in May* I hope you're all paying attention to how the economy is shaping up, with respect to the monetary policies that sparked the 2020-2021 run.

biba8163

> DeFi is overcollateralized loans and liquidity and it's not pretending to be anything else It's literally called Decentralized Finance but - It's not decentralized - It has not real world financial products that people need and use every day So it is 100% pretending to be something it is not. > You can use DeFi to play with "shitcoins" if you want, but that's not its main use. Look at the volume on AAVE, it's mostly stable coins or ETH/BTC derived tokens. Wait wait, I thought you said it was DECENTRLIZED FINANCE! Lending/borrowing ETH/BTC derived tokens is not finance in any way. Only children living at home with their parents who have never had to get insurance, a mortgage, a home equity loan, etc will think this is finance. > And complaining about acronyms? DeFi isn't decentralized and it isn't finance isn't a complaint. It's a fact. > Any community gets tired of spelling things out and invents its own terms, you're really grasping at straws. The community is grasping for straws trying to come up with and reframe a completely misleading use case narrative . Lending/Borrowing ETH/BTC/ALTs/Stablecoins isn't finance in any way. It's casino games.

tkuid

they know next to nothing about cryptography and then "ReSearChThEWhitEPaPER" lmao. Utility of ETH is infinitesimal. Even the utility of BTC is in serious doubt after institutional capture.

devCheckingIn

Although ETH, BMNR and SHIB are all green candles right now so maybe there is something going on.

Objective_Digit

> I am 100% on ETH but this is vaporware. Absolutely useless except for speculation. You should have bought Bitcoin. People constantly forget that Bitcoin isn't just a currency or an investment. It's also a network and a ledger. A untouchable cyber bank. We didn't have that before.

longtestgame

ETH charts make you feel more comfortable than BTC.

Known_Click

You known that ETH has been in the same price range for 5 years right?

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RiceMofo

There are a few interesting projects out there besides BTC and ETH. You need to do a lot of research and navigate around the rug pull coins

Advanced-Comment-293

> I am 100% on ETH but this is vaporware. Absolutely useless except for speculation. If you really believe that then you should sell it all and never look back. Trying to make money by buying shit in the hopes of finding someone to sell shit to at a higher price is a very bad idea. For the record I'm mostly in ETH and I don't agree with your view at all. I've never cared much about the price. I run Ethereum nodes, follow the development and engage with some communities (not this one, this one's shit honestly). It's a fun hobby with a somewhat outlier chance of changing the world. What's not to like?

discipleofvitalik

i use defi every day, it is NOT a scam. over collateralized loans are an amazing tool if you have collateral. many defi tools (see defisaver) such as uniswap and liquity are completely decentralized. others such as AAVE have hybird governance models that are also novel and interesting. prediction markets pros and cons are debatable but also interesting. the biggest use case of L1 native assets (ETH and BTC) is as a SoV, itself revolutionizing and democratizing global finance. stable coins and liquid staking are also interesting. proof of identity is interesting. AI accessing finance in a permissionless manner is interesting. yes there are scams, but it's not all one big scam and there is no reason to discount the whole technology as you have

Advanced-Comment-293

DeFi is overcollateralized loans and liquidity and it's not pretending to be anything else. Everything else you wrote "shitcoins" "scams" is useless exaggeration. What makes DeFi awesome? For example I can loan out USD stable coins and get interest on that without any banks or any government involved. I can withdraw my balance at any time, I get the interest in real time and all this is guaranteed not through some person or institution but through open source code and an always online perfectly transparent and secure computer. If you don't think that's mind blowing then you probably don't understand what it means. You can use DeFi to play with "shitcoins" if you want, but that's not its main use. Look at the volume on AAVE, it's mostly stable coins or ETH/BTC derived tokens. And complaining about acronyms? Any community gets tired of spelling things out and invents its own terms, you're really grasping at straws.

flsurf7

No, that time was mid Nov. You can wait for another dip to switch BTC for ETH. My personal position has already been secured back at the prior dip in June

ThrowRA-hamburger

yeah ETH is probably the safest bet in alts, along side projects like SEI, & SUI. Real usage, regulatory clarity in most places, actual institutional interest.

andytobbles

ETH is going to take off if any major rally begins

flyfree256

You're completely wrong. I did the math because I was bored. Investing $100 in ETH every month for the last 60 months. Total spent: $6,000 Total ETH accumulated: 2.79 ETH Value @ today's ~$3,330 = ~$9,291 for an over 50% return. Not close to 0 lol.

PreferenceFit9842

I mostly agree. Simple BTC (and maybe ETH) + patience beats what most retail traders do. No need to overthink it. I just wouldn’t say all alts are trash. Most definitely are, but each cycle a few legit ones survive and do really well. The problem is picking them early, not that they don’t exist. BTC/ETH long-term is the safest play for most people, no doubt.

flsurf7

That BTC/ETH chart is looking mighty bullish (1 WK candles) https://www.tradingview.com/x/n9SPgLDf/

detectiverylan12

ETH on base or Bitcoin on lightning

Funnyurolith61

Never bet against ETH

fugogugo

huh.. wow I am more surprised with ETH boost

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