ETH

igoldring

“Council membership is governed by the Hedera Council LLC Agreement, signed by members upon admittance to Hedera Council.” - https://hederacouncil.org/about Maybe read the actual website or keep coping? Hedera Council LLC is quite literally registered under Delaware and the governing body is operated through an agreement. “While Hedera’s code now benefits from the stewardship and vast resources of the Linux Foundation, the operational governance of the Hedera network remains with the Hedera Council.” - https://hedera.com/blog/introducing-hiero-the-foundation-of-the-future/ Donating code to an open-source project does not transfer mainnet network control, node validator permissioning, or operational governance away from the Hedera Council LLC. Also that was posted by their president. How can you have a president of a project and call it decentralized loool you’re a fucking idiot. 😭😭😭 Genuinely a simple Google search refutes your points but Hedera fanboys like yourself are going to go into a psychosis attempting to explain its “decentralization” and how it’s “better than ETH.” You also continue to ignore key points I’ve made on how Hedera IS NOT decentralized even though that was the basis of my argument. It’s not the future and it isn’t decentralized, cope harder.

Historical_Quail_463

​BTC for digital property rights, XMR for private p2p payments, and ETH for global stablecoin rails. ​Every other shiny L1 is basically competing to be a faster casino for trading the tokens created on it.

igoldring

There’s genuinely no way you referenced “ETH” and “mining pools” in the same sentence 😭😭 Also, referencing Hedera when they have a governing council of literally the most centralized institutions / corporations vs Ethereum with a permissionless network spread out across independent node operator is comical.

GesturalAbstraction

We’re still in a bear market and in the meantime, AI continues to go on a rip and affect real world change at the level that crypto enthusiasts had dreamed crypto would have and… still just hasn’t quite happened like anybody said it would. So crypto is not really in the spotlight right now, instead it’s AI. Meanwhile FI infrastructure is quietly building on top of RWT, making this a great time to accumulate ETH and/or BTC at really great prices.

exitof99

I started with paper wallets, but when I wanted to do anything with the funds (I was receiving BTC from NiceHash back before ETH went PoS), Coinbase/GDAX didn't support paper wallets, so I had to use a wallet with another website, then transfer to Coinbase. It seemed safe, and ultimately once you've done it once it's not difficult, but you have to pay fees for those two steps from paper wallet to digital wallet to exchange.

ultimatepoker

It’s happened on ETH. Once.

Known-Anywhere3808

I’m with you, lost some amount. Both Bitcoin & ETH

Odd-Fun-1482

yeah ive stopped my ETH dca in favor of BTC. I might break even during the bull run on ETH, but any growth beyond that would require serious development. BTC on the other hand i feel this is a very fair price point, bar anything stupid happens in the next couple of months

VendettaKarma

Anyone left in this space just hears: “Now the self custody everyone preached got hacked.” This might be the thing that really kills everything not named BTC, ETH or SOL

MurderTech

Yup. The big hype around Dogelon Mars after what happened to the other large mean coins making people Millions with so many fake write-ups about how the above coin was going to Skyrocket and just getting into crypto i bought into the whole thing and purchased over 10,000 US dollars in that Meme coin with the chats being filled with what seemed like thousands upon thousands of people but when crypto suddenly crashed it dropped my money down to $2,000... I held on to it for so long roughly 2 years until it was down to about $1500. I was just going to hold on to it and hope it came back but then we ran into financial hardship and had to sell off what cost me $10k. I realize this was my fault but I was just getting into crypto and believed the hype on the other end of things I told my brother and my mother that Bitcoin would explode when it dropped down to what was it 11,000 a coin? It was down very low when everything crashed, I promised them that Bitcoin would explode after looking into it a lot of different research this time realizing that I really messed up but checking every single bit of information over multiple days I told them both to invest as my mother had just gotten 400,000 after my stepdad passed away and was worried about her future as she was supposed to get a million but the brothers of the stepdad caused a lot of issues and it went to court it was very sad i told my mother to invest in six coins which would be around 60 or 70,000 and within a year I guaranteed her that it would at least be 20 or $30,000 if not more and that she could not lose out on it but she did not believe me only to have the coin reach upwards of $90,000 I think was the top? And my brother did the same saying that he didn't believe me when he was investing in regular stocks he invested around $20,000 that he could have invested in Bitcoin which would have been roughly two coins and would have gained him $180,000 instead he lost 5,000 on the regular stocks and when I showed both my mother and brother how massive Bitcoin had gotten and that they should have listened to me after I sent them a plethora of information on it that took me so long to put together and I wished so badly I had the money to invest as I realized the mean point was an absolute loss but that Bitcoin would absolutely come back whether it was only $20k or if it exploded like it did, either way they would profit off of it if they looked at my information and both of them got upset and didn't want to talk about it. Once it was that high and I told them I also said that the information that I was looking up said not to invest whatsoever at that point because it was going to have another drop plus investing that much money on a coin that was about four times last before it exploded it's just asking for a loss.... So I am officially done with crypto as well. And done trying to help people when I do extreme amounts of research and look at prediction charts and past charts now that I absolutely figured out crypto although when I say absolutely I mean for the most part as it's unpredictable as a whole and other than that Bitcoin explosion from such a low number all the other things I've looked into are not concrete and I can't invest any longer as this was one of three major losses that I took along with 10 others that were smaller Investments that had all sorts of height and were well known coins that wouldn't make me Millions or even hundreds of thousands but looked like they were going to be very lucrative including Luna, which absolutely was a major loss in total my crypto losses well I invested from my landscaping business was roughly $22,000.... And from that amount of money I cashed out $4k when I became disabled and lost my business and everything we had and had to cash out with many of them dropping even lower afterwards that's $18,000 lost yes from believing the hype believing chats and believing fake news articles on Yahoo and all sorts of places which I figured out after the fact. Again this is my fault I'm not blaming the coins I should have done an extreme amount of research like I did with Bitcoin afterwards when I saw that it had become so low and even when it skyrocketed all the other coins that I had invested in, did not. Everything from well-known coins that everyone was investing in including ETH, SOL and so many others in that category with LUNC losing me $3500. I believe that was the South Korean guy that tried to run or whatever. Sorry for the long post it's very upsetting and I just kind of went on an upset rant which probably hundreds of thousands of people can understand and have also had made your losses higher than me. I wish you guys all luck whoever is investing just be careful and do your research and make sure that your research is done on reputable sources and not just links on the internet as many are fake, paid for write ups to boost the hype sadly. I really thought crypto was the next big thing but it has too many scams and too many rug pulls to be anything legitimate enough to safely invest. Just my 2 cents. Maybe one day they will have certain laws and regulations placed on the coins and the people who created them allowing those people to have to pay back those that they scam or rug pull or are called out for having hundreds of pages and chats that are fake with Bots that make the room look huge but mainly our fake accounts and Bots. Crypto could have been such an amazing thing and I was so excited for it but I think everyone knows now that it's an arcade where you put your money in and you get very little back when you go to cash out....good luck to all!

Due_Difference_1412

Yes, currently only BTC and ETH offer significant investment value; other cryptocurrencies don't offer much investment potential. Holding long-term is too risky; I only do short-term trading now

VendettaKarma

90% of retail feels the same. Self-Custody as been preached for over a decade. Now that’s not even safe? Nah, bro most are out and definitely aren’t coming back. The mainstream window is closed. Beast chance was right after the pandemic when everyone had stimulus to invest. BTC, SOL & ETH will be the last ones standing. Everything else that has any value will be because people have lost keys, passwords, etc. there’s a lot there. The thrives, grifters, rug pullers & fake influencers ruined this space. Just like they’re ruining everything else. It’s just over.

chief_erl

This is why I don’t trust bullshit startups to hold life changing money. This is why I bought a ledger and use it properly. People, go with the tried and tested wallets to hold your crypto!!! I feel you OP I lost 1btc and 28ETH to Celsius. You can rebuild. It is possible. Keep your head up and keep going. I am very sorry this happened to you and I wish it on no one.

Sufficient_Fuel5269

If you already have BTC and ETH in a cold wallet, the safest thing is to move them to a regulated exchange where you have passed KYC. If you decide use Coinbase or other exchange, is the most standard option for cash-out to USD: you send from your cold wallet, sell to USD and withdraw to your bank. I think to Robinhood works, but is more limited and less used for large withdrawals. If the amount is high, first make a small test transfer and activate 2FA before moving everything.

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anonymous__ignorant

No, i want your 0.00001 ETH on nova if you have any. Those 2 cents mean that i'm just robbing you blind for the amount of moons i'm not decided i care about or not.

anonymous__ignorant

"Please add more ETH on Arbitrum Nova to pay for fees. You currently have 0.00002 ETH, but the transaction requires 0.00003 ETH." Do we still give a shit about moons?

Ok_Winter8503

Categories are useful for research, but I’d build the portfolio around risk budgets, not category quotas. For each holding, ask: What job does it do? How much total downside can it create? How correlated is it with the rest during a crash? What would invalidate the thesis? A portfolio of BTC, ETH, SOL and several L1s can look diversified while remaining one correlated bet. I’d cap each speculative position, stress-test -20% / -50% / -75%, and rebalance on written thresholds rather than narratives. Categories tell you what you own. Concentration and correlation tell you whether the portfolio survives.

Itur_ad_Astra

It will be lower. Complete guesses, but something like $95K for BTC and $3500 for ETH. Maybe in 2028.

Itur_ad_Astra

What, the 1% drop for BTC and 2% drop for ETH? That's just a taste. I'm talking about double digits here.

SCUDDEESCOPE

I've lost some faith when I lost some BTC and ETH from my Trust Wallet because I probably gave permission to some shady site that somehow drained my wallet...it was probably my fault but I still cannot understand how is it possible to just gain access to a wallet.

coolfarmer

It's not because you don't understand ETH that it is weak. Ethereum is also a king here, even if the supply go up in time.

unknow_feature

... selling those 5k ETH

DrGrungy

ETH is not it. It can be printed just like fiat, whoever owns the most controls the network. Don't listen to these shills!

ripple_mcgee

Hey OP. One thing you need to understand is that crypto prices as a whole perform poorly in higher interest rate environments. Most crypto degens borrow money to trade crypto (ie. leverage), so when rates are high there is less volume. What I'm driving at is that crypto currencies like ETH are reeling from economic forces caused by tariffs, AI and war. Honestly, I am surprised the price has held so steady around the $1,800 mark given what has transpired the last year. US rates are predicted to go up later this year (bad for crypto) to combat inflation. One thing I'm watching for is the US midterm elections. Although republicans say they are pro-crypto, the administrations economic policies they put out are not. If the political winds start to shift in the US, I'll take it as a positive sign.

Strong_Judge_3730

Don't give up, after the ETH DAO hack people got some of their coins from white hat hackers. Maybe a bounty could be offered

ripple_mcgee

I miss the days of mining PoW ETH with my rig...although I can't imagine what is would be like in this environment with GPU prices being what they are. Hardware requirements for PoS are very reasonable.

SpontaneousDream

Doesn't matter because ETH can't capture the value on the chain

cardpilled

Congrats, hope it shows up fast. India's card options being thin makes sense, most issuers just don't want to deal with the RBI/FEMA compliance overhead for a still-uncertain regulatory picture, so you end up with a handful of niche players instead of the big names. On pros/cons: the "don't have to think about conversion" thing you mentioned is honestly the whole value prop, but worth knowing what's happening under the hood. If it's converting your crypto to fiat at swipe, that's a taxable sale every time, doesn't matter how invisible it feels to you. If you're spending a stablecoin instead, there's basically no gain to report since the value doesn't move. Good idea to check which one your card is actually doing. On the "not sell your bitcoins" thing, that's actually live already outside India, just not common yet. A few cards let you borrow against BTC/ETH as collateral instead of spending it directly, so you keep the position and just pay back the loan later. No credit card version of that reaches India yet as far as I've seen, but it's the same idea people mean when they bring up that meme, and it does exist elsewhere. Nice find on the Poshvine rewards stacking, that's the kind of thing that makes a mediocre card actually worth carrying.

DontLook_Weirdo

While BTC is trying to be an asset and is treated as such, Eth is trying to fix how money transacts. ETH is a terrible performer in the sense that it's incredibly boring.. rarely moves up or down, but the tech is there and it'll implement. When it does, it'll take off.. but it's 100% faith in the tech because ETH is so very boring on charts.

HoldCtrlW

2027 will be so good, we'll find our "price floor" and finally get some stability for ETH

TT_________

IMO it would hit sub 1500 in Q4 before making any new ATH. Eitherway it's a decent price for the long run and no one knows the future. In terms of alt ETH is probably one of the only few alts that is more safe and stable compared to most.

Itur_ad_Astra

- End of the month. - Friday. - BTC/ETH failing to overcome resistance for weeks. Yeah, this weekend is going to be a bloodbath. You know it, I know it.

GBeastETH

It’s happened before. There was a service that generated custom ETH addresses, and their clients got drained for the same reason. Even after the bug was discovered and announced.

Themeatmanofdoom

This is why I also hold QRL along with my BTC and ETH.

Rough-Suggestion-294

Worth knowing before you plan a big one: "accepts Bitcoin" and "accepts your Bitcoin" are not the same claim, and the gap is almost never disclosed on the product page. Sotheby's is the clearest example. They do take BTC, ETH and USDC, but only on lots specifically designated for it, and their own bidder guidance states payment has to arrive from one of five named custodial exchange wallets (Coinbase Custody Trust, Coinbase Inc., Fidelity Digital Assets, Gemini Trust, Paxos Trust), from a single wallet, after photo ID is on file. A payment from your own hardware wallet is refused. So the person most likely to be bidding is the one who can't pay. TAG Heuer is the opposite shape: they will take self-custodied crypto through BitPay on the online boutique, but their US terms cap the whole purchase at USD 10,000, which isn't mentioned anywhere near the products. Pavilions Hotels publishes a proper crypto page covering 28 assets, and then excludes its Bali and Phuket properties from it. Two of the best known hotels in the group, carved out of the group's own policy. None of that is a rail limitation, incidentally. BitPay's own terms say plainly that it has no access to or control over crypto in your wallet and doesn't provide custody. Where a merchant demands a named custodian, that is the merchant's own source-of-funds policy, not the processor's. Practical version: for anything meaningful, read the merchant's actual terms page rather than the "we accept Bitcoin" badge, and ask which wallet before you commit. The constraint clusters at auction houses and banks, the places with the heaviest source-of-funds duty, and is rare at dealers and hotels.

Biocognition

We are either in a long crypto winter, which some see as a time to buy. I have been in crypto a long time, and this is definitely a bad one. When it ends, whether that be another huge rush to come or another downslide is anyone's guess. If you are firm believer, it is your money, and I would say the best bets (literally, because that is what this is) are likely BTC and ETH... maybe SOL. However, I would recommend finding a solid company and investing in its stock right now over crypto. Just my opinion, though.  Again, anyone's guess, and it is possible  I look back at this comment I left and say to myself, "Wow, should have bought some crypto at that time." It is also possible I look back at my comment to this thread and say to myself, "Wow, so glad I didn't jump back in."

Acsnook-007

I sat on ETH (and others) for over 5 years, losing over 60% of my money. To make matters worse, had to pay a few hundred dollars in fees which was a total rip off. I also held ADA and had to create a new wallet (with the SecondFi hack] and move money around and it was all a nightmare, being on pins and needles wondering if I had made a mistake somewhere and lost my money. I believed in crypto early and put a decent amount of money in it only to now conclude it's all a dying scam. It will never become mainstream. Good luck but I would invest that money in SpaceX or an S&P fund and hold real assets.

Biocognition

I would add ETH to that big if as well. Better utility than BTC, but yes, BTC could continue to be a sort of "digital gold."

_kidrah_24

This was my first cycle so i didn't understand only when to take profit but one good thing i did is DCA and right now i am staking BTC , ETH , SOL and in alts i am staking REKT and CHECK tokens .

WorldlyCaramel3793

Does it mean there are more buyers for ETH ETFs and BTC token than BTC ETFs and ETH token

TheBitcoin21

Etherum & ETH are 2 different things. Stack sats stay humble :)

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BakingBreadBB2

Should have held ramen instead of ETH

cccc0079

ETH is here to stay but the price always a gamble. You can stake your ETH for 1-2% yield anyway.

Intrepid_Load_1714

I’m no expert on this but seems you can have a centralized regulated company but decentralized finance. Defi is their technology but need some centralized structure for investors to put some value on them. Makes most sense from investor standpoint. For the life of me I can’t figure the actual value of ETH and i listen to people here and places like cnbc (e.g. Tom Lee from bitmine) where they make these predictions on price literally out of thin air. But stuff like hype, jup with seemingly real company structure, financials, ethics etc are more quantifiable. So the clarity act may end up producing more companies like these using and developing technology but have palpable revenue and earnings. My 2 cents.

crustyrobots

I think you should just stop before you lose any more money. Everything but ETH you have there is a rank shitcoin. ETH is legit but its price action has always been Bitcoin's slave bitch. We're in a bear cage filled with sharks right at the moment and you're swimming with your dick out

MushrooGuy

ETH is losing its market share. It's losing the one thing it was supposed to have over everything else.. institutional use https://preview.redd.it/jsozllo2mggh1.jpeg?width=2101&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f08728559863144fa417e779b5cf59dd70ba177d

b1mm3rl1f3

If little ole MU can do 30% in 24 hours so can ETH

QuantityOk5892

I guess we can all agree that $ETH is basically a stable coin now 🤣

HalcyoNighT

No crypto has gained more value over BTC in the last 5 years. Just buy BTC man. You can buy your ETH and SOL on the side but your main has to be BTC. Nothing is ever getting the jump over BTC.

peasantscum851123

So Sell ETH at Gas station

The_Bitcoin_Act

You’re not losing money because “crypto is a waste of time.” You’re losing money because you bought shitcoins. ETH and Solana are not Bitcoin. They’re venture capital tokens dressed up as “crypto.” Of course they dump hard and recover slower, that’s what happens when the entire value proposition is marketing, hype cycles, and endless inflation.

stassiks

Are we deadass now calling eth and solana shitcoin? **Ethereum (ETH)** – The second-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization after Bitcoin **Solana (SOL)** – One of the largest smart contract blockchains.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Looking at past cycles, $1,300 is still conservative. And with everyone disappointed in the last alt season, or more with its lack of it, and the alt market that keeps suffering, it's not too inconceivable to see ETH drop below $1K this cycle. If this cycle is like any previous cycle, there's potentially another 50-60% drop from here. So that would put ETH at $700-$900.

Crypto-Bets

I prefer to buy my ETH on sale. When ETH hits $1,500 I buy.

Elrondel

Nope, $0.28 here. Still outperforms ETH though.

abhicoinexpansion

That's probably the simplest strategy to stick with. Do you think that changes at all during different market cycles, or do you stay with BTC and ETH regardless?

abhicoinexpansion

That's probably the simplest strategy to stick with. Do you think that changes at all during different market cycles, or do you stay with BTC and ETH regardless?

Survivaleast

ETH, BTC. Viable projects have come and gone. Started and pivoted, rose and fell. Many years ago I may have thrown a bunch of project names that mean very little now. “Yah bro check out Link, XTZ, XRP, Algo and Cardano.” The truth and fact of the matter, is that there is ETH and there is BTC. Then there is the game of musical chairs of projects struggling to be relevant among 24,990 other pointless coins. The sooner people come to terms with that reality, the better the market will become.

bettercallso

Let’s build a DAT for ramen, ngl would be a better one compared to an ETH treasury.

No-Masterpiece2246

ETH and SOL have benefited from the new SEC and CFTC staff. Gensler and his buddies were out of control. They really had no chance at stopping crypto. But that didn't stop them from rigging prices for 4 years. Every time Gensler said "ETH is a security" the price dumped 15%.

Emotional_Perv

My option- and I’m a regard too - so dyor, believe your own gut, or whatever Bitcoin - I’ve heard it called the gold standard, it’s the proof of concept for crypto historically. The crypto doesn’t give a fuck about history. I feel like bitcoin is going to rapidly become the golden “tulip” as in the Dutch Tulip market in the 1800s. People are gonna get left hole in the bag. ETH - I’ve heard this one called the Oil standard. I believe in Ethereum more than I believe in bitcoin simply because it has uses distributed apps, smart contracts, etc.. It has the ability to do work. Other than that, I try to do my research on crypto coins that support DeFi, like chainlink solana, polkadot, etc. But my portfolio is 75% Ethereum in Solana. The rest of DeFi is a gamble to me. I avoid any AI related crypto.

petruzzi600

It’s bitcoin and then ETH if you really believe in the crypto narrative for diversity. Otherwise there’s 100s of better stocks to invest in with more upside potential.

Kylynator124

Mainly BTC and ETH with some XRP as well. Nothing else imo

Old-Committee944

For me its mostly BTC and ETH, then maybe few strong L1 or RWA projects. Trying to catch every new narrative is how you end up with 30 random bags and no idea why you even bought them lol.

Far_Cut_8100

Vous pouvez retirer des USDG ? Bitmart me met les réseaux SOL et ETH "suspendue" donc impossible de les retirer.

Alatarlhun

This shit is only being posted because ETH slightly outperformed BTC recently and bitcoin maxis are very fragile.

HoldCtrlW

Still short on ETH here. Looks like they want one more leg down (\~$1300-1500) target

Nethereos

I'm not saying I beleieve this momentum is going to continue, just a completely objective stance. Your observation that you feel the ratio is getting weaker recently isn't right, at least in the timeframe of the last month. It can clearly be seen by looking at ETH/BTC directly.

MulberryAcceptable39

ETH, the original shitcoin

Ok_Golf_6467

People laughed at the internet too 30 years ago. ETH will have it's moment, rest assured

Acsnook-007

Most of my bag was ADA with some ETH, XRP and DOGE.

jerryBsifu

Dude its crazy u ask this i literally asked chatgpt and Gemini this the other day. I feel like ETH is slowly drifting off into its own direction. It's still following BTC for now but everyday it's steering away.

Nethereos

It has to be because recently the actual ETH/BTC ratio has been increasing. Albeit only for the last month or so, but you did say recently

Otherwise-4PM

Are you saying that you could have bought 16,800 packs of ramen for one ETH five years ago, and today one ETH gets you 1,453 packs?

DulyDully

ETH. Follows the market except when it goes up. Follows Corn except when it goes up.

Cool-Custard-8104

Investing in noodles>investing in ETH

cowboy_shaman

I stopped looking after I didn’t swap more ETH to BTC at the 0.08 level. Now it just makes me sad. I have lost all faith in Ethereum and hope I can dump these bags

Timely-Fig2030

What's so special about the ETH/BTC ratio lately? I see a chart.

Minute-Lake-1819

I know most look at price, but my comment was purely about fundamentals. BTC,ETH,LTC and several others from the early days are showing on chain growth. Not death like one would expect if they were indeed worthless

Sweaty_Guitar_4447

Nah, I think you’re seeing something real. ETH still follows BTC, but every bounce feels weaker lately. The ratio needs to show some actual strength before I’d call this just noise

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I_argue_for_funsies

First owned was BTC... but that led to... BtcTalk mining forums where I built multiple Radeon 290x rigs to mine POW coins. I mined some of the earliest blocks of DOGE. Was a /r/Dogillionaire many times over. Still have my Josh Wise #98 shirt... Lost 10+ million doge and more than 300 LTC in the Moola/Mintpal exchange drama. Quadriga happened but lucky I had nothing in there... Then capitulated into Cryptsy in 2015 only to have Vern fuck me again in 2016. Multiple BTC and LTC gone again... In 2016 I was reignited by ETH and activated old shit coin wallets and dumped them all on Cryptopia (mostly Mintcoin lol). Ended up with double digit BTC. Bought a lot of Antshares. I still have a giant folder of wallet.dat files around that I have no idea what they are for. So many wallet app clones

No_Success_4269

BTC, ETH, LTC in that order. I still have the history on Coinbase and I sometimes look at that history and those prices. August 2017.

c0horst

Bitcoin, 2020. I was never into purchasing crypto, when it was profitable to mine at home I'd run Nicehash to mine ETH and get paid in BTC. I then started mining ETH directly, as well as other mineable coins like RVN as I expanded my mining rig. When ETH went proof of stake I sold all crypto and all GPUs and never looked back. ETH killed my enthusiasm for crypto, lol.

ShinkaRoam

Yeah, I only invest in ETH

synthwave_man

SOL will come back, but probably won't outperform ETH again. Pump_Fun and its memes have ruined crypto, that's why i don't like SOL.

blue-chips

Is the $50 balance in an ERC-20 token? If so, you may not have the right tokens to pay gas fees to make a transfer. Looks like you're using the OKX Wallet. You can apparently pay gas fees on with ETH, USDT, USDC, or USDG (in addition to ETH). [https://web3.okx.com/help/gas-fees-faq](https://web3.okx.com/help/gas-fees-faq)

master-beast-72

the honest answer requires separating the price question from the fundamental question **fundamentals**: Cardano has working smart contracts (Plutus/Aiken), a functioning DeFi ecosystem, and solid academic research underpinning its design. it's not vaporware. but by most on-chain metrics — TVL, transaction volume, developer activity, protocol revenue — it significantly lags Ethereum and even several smaller L1s like Solana or Avalanche. the eUTXO model is technically interesting but created friction for DeFi composability that the ecosystem has been working around **price**: ADA has historically been one of the most narrative-driven assets in crypto. it rallies hard when Hoskinson announces development milestones and when retail sentiment turns bullish on "undervalued L1s." it's also had severe drawdowns — peak to current is down 90%+ from 2021 highs **who's buying ADA**: largely existing holders averaging down, retail looking for a "cheap" alternative to ETH, and people who believe Cardano's peer-reviewed approach will eventually generate more meaningful adoption **the bear case**: Cardano has been building toward "the next phase" for years and ecosystem growth has been slow relative to competitors. there's an opportunity cost — that capital could be in faster-growing ecosystems it's not obviously worth buying or avoiding — that depends heavily on your thesis and risk tolerance

CrossPuffs

ETH. It was about the same price then as it is now.

Timely-Fig2030

ETH. I wish we had the old times back and no dilution, especially no memecoin assholes 😭

RandomPlayerCSGO

I don't trust anything like that, I only trust yield for ETH staking in its own network or for lending in Aave, both are smaller yields than 14%

Sookkhuii

just dcaing every BTC low and sometimes maybe ETH and when bull is really coming buy more major alts like SOL

thinkingperson

The last time I tried a project that offered 14% APY in ETH and BTC, I got a 55% haircut within six months 😅

synthwave_man

Just buy ETH, wait for a 2x, and sell. That's it. The times to make 10x, 100x or 500x in crypto are long gone. In 2018-2021 you could have made those gains easily from buying altcoins in the bear and holding them until the peak of the bull. I miss the old days.

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TheSquattingSlav_21

This is what most people don’t understand. Once user adoption comes in (and it WILL, although a bit more institutionalized than we may have wanted..) smart contracts functionality is going to go crazy and ETH will hit spectacular pumps. Still a bunch of years away though, I can wait :)

master-beast-72

The core concept is solid — price-triggered automations fill a real gap for people who don't want to watch charts all day. A few honest thoughts: The fixed percentage trigger (5% dip, 8% surge) is the weakest part of the idea. In a high-volatility regime, those levels get hit constantly and your automations fire too often. In a low-vol sideways market, nothing triggers at all. Volatility-adjusted thresholds — anchoring to something like ATR rather than absolute percentage — would make the triggers much more meaningful across different market conditions. The "trigger → action" model is only as useful as the action types you support. If the only action is a notification, it's a slightly nicer alert app. If you can integrate with exchange APIs to actually execute limit orders or DCA buys on trigger, that's a meaningfully different tool. What actions does it support right now? The Bitcoin-only scope is either a feature or a limitation depending on your target user. For BTC-only holders it's clean. For anyone running a multi-asset book, they'd want the same logic applied to ETH, SOL, etc. without needing separate tools. Two things that would immediately improve it: (1) backtesting view so users can see how their rule would have fired historically, and (2) a way to set cooldown periods so a 5% dip doesn't trigger 8 times during a single crash. What's the data source for the price feed?

master-beast-72

Started with Bitcoin and it did change how I think about investing, though maybe not in the direction you'd expect. The main shift was realizing that volatility isn't inherently bad if your time horizon is long enough and your position sizing accounts for it. Traditional finance wisdom says you should reduce risk as a position grows, but Bitcoin's actual return profile punished people who sold at the "rational" exit points repeatedly. It taught me to think more carefully about why I'm holding something and whether the thesis has changed, rather than selling because a number felt high. It also recalibrated my baseline for what "a big move" means. A 40% drawdown in crypto is a rough month; in equities it's a generational crisis. After spending time in this market you stop treating normal equity volatility as scary, which has been useful. The branching out happened when I wanted to balance the crypto concentration with something that grows more predictably. Index funds ended up being the vehicle for that — not because I lost faith in the crypto thesis, but because a portfolio with 80% in one highly correlated asset class isn't great risk management regardless of what the asset is. So for me it was: Bitcoin → understand asymmetric bets → ETH and alts → realize concentration risk → build out the rest of the portfolio to stabilize it. Bitcoin is still a meaningful position but it's not the only piece.