ETH

nitroacid411

Been a good week. Here's some current data trending *** Current News (1 to 7 days) *** - 3.2 trillion market cryptocurrency cap exceeded - $90,000 k Bitcoin - Gold (perspective) - $3,000 k ETH - Silver (perspective) China/USA trade tariff deal Russia/Ukraine war peace deal Artificial Intelligence AI: - Nvidia down $195 -> $170 20th-25th November - Remember Deep Seek fears from China competitor - Nvidia challenged by Google Gemini buyers from Meta data centers - Big 7 AI are opening up more companies and this will not continue to be the only 7 in this stock market Federal rate cut: December 10th: - November rate cut no effect on cryptocurrency - USA bonds backing BTC - Cheat Sheet in 11/26 (Greater > 6.5 trillion is the number) - Jobs - Cartels were liquidated last week and during the month of November - Drop 30% - China #3 worldwide miners of cryptocurrency - China eyeing opening the ban since 2021 - Russia open for cryptocurrency - Russia sold bags to pay bills - can't pay soldiers Public moves: - Andrew Tate liquidated 700k+ - Baron Trump longs opened 50m+ - Garrett Jin longs opened 200m+ Imagine the people NOT showing their cards in poker? How many of these people are you or connected to your investments? - Michael Saylor holding even at a close 74k topple and explains the 12 year cycle not 4 year - Tommy Lee holding ETH on the dump - Robert Kiyosaki is not a crypto investor - A real estate mogul yes, not crypto, he sold - JPMorgan Chase - Bitcoin bond What have you seen in the past 1 to 7 days. Ask yourself? Ask your team? Time to invest or sellout? Watch those %'s and gains or loses. It's showing a lot of data.

Dormage

Onchain implies transprency. Are you sure you want that target painted on your back? If leverage is ussed I assume AAVE with ETH as collateral? What is the exposure you think you can safely take on?

biba8163

**Days ETH's intraday high fell within each price range from November 1, 2017 to today (2025-11-27):** | Bucket | Days | % Spent | First | Last | First-Last (days) | |--------------------|------|---------|------------------|-----------------|-------------------| | $500–$1K | 196 | 6.67% | 2017-11-29 | 2021-01-02 | 1130 | | $1K–$1.5K | 204 | 6.94% | 2018-01-04 | 2023-03-11 | 1892 | | $1.5K–$2K | 492 | 16.73% | 2021-02-02 | 2025-05-07 | 1555 | | $2K–$2.5K | 231 | 7.86% | 2021-02-20 | 2025-06-28 | 1589 | | $2.5K–$3K | 284 | 9.66% | 2021-04-15 | 2025-11-25 | 1685 | | $3K–$3.5K | 255 | 8.67% | 2021-05-03 | 2025-11-26 | 1668 | | $3.5K–$4K | 193 | 6.56% | 2021-05-04 | 2025-11-13 | 1654 | | $4K–$4.5K | 109 | 3.71% | 2021-05-10 | 2025-10-29 | 1633 | | $4.5K–$5K | 51 | 1.73% | 2021-11-02 | 2025-10-09 | 1437 | Last 1 Year (Nov 27, 2024 to Nov 27, 2025): - Most time spent: $2.5K–$3K bucket with 23.84% (87 days) - ETH spent the entire last year above $1.5K Last 3 Years (Nov 28, 2022 to Nov 27, 2025): - Most time spent: $1.5K–$2K bucket with 30.87% (338 days) - This period reflects the bear market bottom and recovery phase - Second most time: $2.5K–$3K with 16.44% Key Takeaways: - The last 3 years show heavy consolidation in the $1.5K-$2K range during the 2022-2023 bear market - The last year shows significant upward movement, with ETH spending ~24% of time in the $2.5K-$3K range - ETH has reached $4.5K-$5K for 51 total days (1.73%), with 30 of those days occurring in the last year - Unlike BTC (which spent all of last year above $80K), ETH has been more range-bound between $1.5K-$5K with significant time spent across multiple buckets

Feisty-Body285

I don’t even bother or even check sentiment anymore For me it’s simple: I have a certain amount for buying btc every month, when dip happens in the month I buy, easy Going to sell all alts and half of my ETH around top (if I can), but I won’t sell my btc 💪

CriticalCobraz

If ETH reached $10k what do you do? sell? If so for what purpose, when your goal is to be completely onchain?

Busy_Rich266

Anyone who has been around crypto for a while knows Bitcoin is the true king. Very few altcoin projects will actually make it. I believe ETH has a good chance of sticking around.

andys811

No, but 99% of altcoins will die out. I'll happily laugh in your face if you tell my ETH, SOL etc are shitcoins. 99% of altcoins are shitcoins, but that doesn't mean all of them are, and the good thing is that it means the odd couple altcoins are good projects but get given a shitcoin price tag which is what you wanna see.

The_Vibe_is_Eternal

The ETH/BTC chart is looking pretty juicy, as well as the TOTAL3. A classic move is for people to move into BTC, just for alt coins to start outperforming BTC. I really anticipate alt coins to outperform bitcoin for the next month or so.

dutch_85

Except ETH can literally generate revenue.

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Post is by: ChillGuy383 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1p83q3v/people_are_borrowing_against_btc_instead_of_their/ I have been watching the lending numbers lately, and something interesting is happening. More people are borrowing against their BTC and ETH instead of tapping home equity, and honestly, it makes sense. Galaxy Research put crypto-backed loans at around $73.6B in Q3, which is the highest we have ever seen. That is not a DeFi side experiment anymore. That is a lot of people choosing liquidity without selling their stack. Meanwhile, traditional finance is doing its usual dance. JPMorgan spent the week pushing FUD around Bitcoin and MSTR, people started the whole #BoycottJPM thing, and then suddenly JPM wants to let clients borrow against BTC and ETH. The timing speaks for itself. What I found more useful was Galaxy’s breakdown of the actual lenders. The biggest players right now are Tether, Nexo, and Galaxy - basically the firms that survived 2022, tightened up their collateral rules, and kept things simple and fully backed. Comparing this to real-estate loans feels like two different eras. With crypto you get: \- Liquidity in minutes \- No capital-gains hit because you are not selling \- Global access without banks slowing you down. Sure, volatility matters and you need to keep your LTV sane, but the market today is way healthier than the last cycle. So I am curious: If you needed liquidity tomorrow, would you borrow against your house or your Bitcoin? Anyone here already doing this? How has it played out?  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

lymanite

50% BTC 30% ETH 20% SOL Once I understood the genius behind “Proof of History” I really fell in love with Solana.

Illustrious_Mix4946

Nice to see ETH breaking past the $3,000 resistance level! This is a critical technical milestone. I've been tracking this level on ChartScanner.ai and it shows strong support forming around $2,850. The Fusaka update boost seems to be the catalyst pushing through that resistance. If we can hold above $3,000, the next target would be around $3,200. What's your view on where the support levels will hold if we see a pullback?

Spoofik

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coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Ethereum has surged past $3,000, driven by market recovery and anticipation of the Fusaka update, which is set to enhance performance and reduce transaction costs. The update, scheduled for December 3rd, introduces PeerDAS to improve data capacity and lower rollup costs, promoting Layer-2 adoption. Ethereum ETFs have seen significant inflows, reflecting growing investor interest. Analysts suggest further price increases if ETH surpasses $3,200, while caution remains for potential dips below $3,000. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Cryptocaller

And? Since 2017- I’m 70% BTC, 20% ETH, 10% Everything else… Things are great. Your shill bags are lame. 😒

PPCclimber

ETH, ICP, FIL, XTZ spread among these.

PMmeuroneweirdtrick

How is the time in the market working out for ADA, ETH, any altcoin holders?

nitroacid411

Support is in this week. Check out some interesting changes. *** Current News (1 to 7 days) *** - 3.2 trillion market cryptocurrency cap exceeded - $90,000 k Bitcoin - Gold (perspective) - $3,000 k ETH - Silver (perspective) China/USA trade tariff deal Russia/Ukraine war peace deal Artificial Intelligence AI: - Nvidia down $195 -> $170 20th-25th November - Remember Deep Seek fears from China competitor - Nvidia challenged by Google Gemini buyers from Meta data centers - Big 7 AI are opening up more companies and this will not continue to be the only 7 in this stock market Federal rate cut: December 10th: - November rate cut no effect on cryptocurrency - USA bonds backing BTC - Cheat Sheet in 11/26 (Greater > 6.5 trillion is the number) - Jobs - Cartels were liquidated last week and during the month of November - Drop 30% - China #3 worldwide miners of cryptocurrency - China eyeing opening the ban since 2021 - Russia open for cryptocurrency - Russia sold bags to pay bills - can't pay soldiers Public moves: - Andrew Tate liquidated 700k+ - Baron Trump longs opened 50m+ - Garrett Jin longs opened 200m+ Imagine the people NOT showing their cards in poker? How many of these people are you or connected to your investments? - Michael Saylor holding even at a close 74k topple and explains the 12 year cycle not 4 year - Tommy Lee holding ETH on the dump - Robert Kiyosaki is not a crypto investor - A real estate mogul yes, not crypto, he sold - JPMorgan Chase - Bitcoin bond What have you seen in the past 1 to 7 days. Ask yourself? Ask your team? Time to invest or sellout? Watch those %'s and gains or loses. It's showing a lot of data.

RealPrinceZuko

Crypto will come back again once the technology of the block chains is actually valued. In order for that to happen, it needs to bring in real users. Companies need to be able to utilize the chains to make money. Businesses need to be built around them. Basically, web 3.0 needs to take shape and become adopted. That's my opinion. There is so much power being held in a handful of institutions, and while it's great for the small majority of people that hold stakes in those institutions, most people don't have that same fortune. Web 3.0 and crypto offers a reset for everyone, but the problem is there's so many scam/meme coins that provide no actual value and are just pump and dumps. It's not even gambling anymore, you're just donating to scammers/developers. Just my opinion, BTC and ETH will continue to hold and grow as the money supply expands, but all other projects will hurt until web 3.0 becomes mainstream.

KMI_Dragon_Knight

This is innacurate, ETH networks get upgraded, and it was upgraded just a few weeks ago to keep it current and incredily fast.

Available_Win5204

Bitcoin can be cloned endlessly just like ETH. “Scarcity” is a farce. Any argument that you try to make for bitcoins perceived scarcity applies to every other crypto. It comes down to “yea but this one is special.”

ADHD-Developer

Invest in all 3 and consider adding ETH and ADA to ur portfolio, WAIT FOR THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM (200 week ema on Btc) to enter

j0ker31m

I only invest because its cheap and moves faster than BTC and ETH. Im not sure of long-term investing, but I've made large profits from dips in the recent past. Im still buying into the idea that crypto will dip further in the upcoming months and I wanted to pull out my coins to reenter at the bottom. Trouble is, its been all uphill since the moment I sold. Lol

MrKyleOwns

People have been saying ETH is oil for far too long, the truth of the matter is that it’s at its current valuation the same reason bitcoin is at its current valuation, people are speculating on it similar to buying a gold coin. It’s a store of value, and doesn’t gain much of its value from any practical use. If mass adoption comes to cryptocurrency, the Ethereum network is too old and slow to be of any substantial use. If mass adoption comes it’ll use whatever is the newest cutting edge technology. ETH and BTC will still be of value simply because enough people view them as a store of value.

Available_Win5204

Bitcoin treasury companies are destined to fail. Despite what bag holders desperately want you to believe, bitcoin isn’t useful. As we’ve seen over the past few months. It’s not digital gold either. ETH is a different play. From a pure treasury standpoint it’s a minimally better play due to the ability to stake reserves. However if Ethereum continues to become a more important piece of infrastructure as we move forward, treasury companies will become uniquely positioned to operate services with lower costs than late comers. If ETH is oil, and in the future oil quadruples in price, anyone who stockpiled it can run their oil-based business at 25% the cost of competitors. 

Ok_Golf_6467

ETH, AVAX, and SOL should get you there. BTC is the safest but I don't see it doing a 6x in 4 years

sigstrikes

The same ETH that is 2/3 the value it was 4 years ago, continues to lose revenue share and has massive overhang from one whale who is $4B in drawdown right now? Not to mention the remaining “treasury”companies who already had to sell Sure I guess anything is possible

Wang_King8

Hmm. Nothing is impossible in crypto. One massive ETH run to 10k is literally a 3.5x from here

SubstantialPlenty301

That's why you gotta get on the ETH train...

MaximumStudent1839

ROFL! ZEC shillers were all over the place about how ETH and BTC were corrupted because they have an ETF and got "took" over by the "institutions", and lost their "cypherpunk ways". I called out their BS and said Grayscale would 100% convert their ZEC trust into an ETF when momentum starts to fade, and they need to keep the hype going. They just downvoted me and ignored what I said. LOL!

biba8163

**Days ETH's intraday high fell within each price range from November 1, 2017 to today (November 26, 2025):** | Bucket | Days | First | Last | First-Last (days) | |--------------------|------|------------------|-----------------|-------------| | $500–$1K | 196 | 2017-11-29 | 2021-01-02 | 1130 | | $1K–$1.5K | 204 | 2018-01-04 | 2023-03-11 | 1892 | | $1.5K–$2K | 492 | 2021-02-02 | 2025-05-07 | 1555 | | $2K–$2.5K | 231 | 2021-02-20 | 2025-06-28 | 1589 | | $2.5K–$3K | 284 | 2021-04-15 | 2025-11-25 | 1685 | | $3K–$3.5K | 254 | 2021-05-03 | 2025-11-20 | 1662 | | $3.5K–$4K | 193 | 2021-05-04 | 2025-11-13 | 1654 | | $4K–$4.5K | 109 | 2021-05-10 | 2025-10-29 | 1633 | | $4.5K–$5K | 51 | 2021-11-02 | 2025-10-09 | 1437 | Notes: - Bucket with most days: $1.5K–$2K (492 days) - Bucket with second most days: $2.5K–$3K (284 days) - Price range ETH spends most time: $1,500–$2,000 for nearly 500 days over a span of more than 4 years - Longest days between first and last vist to $1.5K to $2K bucket: 1,555 days (from 2021-02-02 to 2025-05-07)

Gubbie99

This is true… BTC cycle don’t end until all coins are mined. 👍 But ETH don’t have expensive mining so the need to sell huge ammounts to take out competition don’t exist based on mining cost. So from here ETH might not crash so much.

4x4taco

BTC pulling an ETH.

metallica41070

You're welcome guys. Had to sell my ETH etf for a downpayment. Instantly went up haha

ProdByDontPanic

ETH forming a macro cup n handle rn, if we mean a true Alt bull market then I agree. She’s bouta pop assuming conditions permit

RealPrinceZuko

I'm mostly referring to ETH and alts. ETH has essentially doubled from 3 years ago if you bought somewhere in 2022. People are basically saying it will go back to that price or lower (basically calling for everything else to die except BTC).

dayvoid3154

So do you and me and everyone. Remember when ETH went ICO, Solana and BNB and we all could buy for less than a dollar each???

LargeSnorlax

At least those are comparisons to something in the last century of technology, which actually makes sense to compare, whether or not it's accurate. When you're comparing an era where [women took arsenic to make their skin beautiful](https://i.imgur.com/EKdRJpQ.png) the comparison is weaker than ETH's ratio to BTC.

biba8163

Let me have my comparison. I've been listening to /r/cc for years saying BTC is like AOL or like MySpace and that ETH is like AMZN in the 1990s.

biba8163

**Railway Mania of 1800s** There was a Railway Mania and Boom in the U.K and U.S in the 1800s that saw plebs who invested on railroads during the century mostly lose their money. The railway companies who issued the bonds and society as a whole benefited from the investors who essentially subsidized this industry. **Crypto Rails Mania of 2020s** Crypto rails are networks that facilitate the transfer of stablecoins: ETH, ETH L2s, TRON, SOL, ALGO, etc. Crypto investors are essentially doing the same thing and subsidizing the development of these networks and are getting very little in return. Since 2021, Stablecoin marketcap is up 200% while prices of these crypto rail networks are mostly down or flat as the dominant networks continuing slashing fees in a race to the bottom to compete with each other. **Agentic AI Micropayments 2030s?** It'll be interesting to see how this develops but we could potentially have a future where we are paying a bunch of AI agents to run small tasks and agents themselves would delegate smaller tasks or even a simple function to other agents and so forth for micropayments for the services. Google has the Agent Payments Protocol (AP2) and has collaborations with several blockchains including Ethereum, Solana, Algorand, SUI, Coinbase Base etc for Agent or Agent-to-Agent payments using Stablecoins and it looks like financial services companies and even retail giants are exploring their own private chains for these because this needs to scale and the fees need to remain free-cheap. The key point again is all these are payments in USD Stablecoins and not the network crypto and it is essential for the network to remain free-cheap. Your Alt doesn't need to appreciate but thank you for your contribution.

Supaflyray

I’d rather mine BTC, or hold ETH and get paid to be apart of their governance system. Then being a bag holder watching a foundation dump pre mined coins onto people. The business model makes no sense. This is how they enter new coins into the market. It’s absurd. I did not tell one lie in my post Ripple releases pre mined coins onto people, lock up what nobody else will buy, and resells them at a later date. They squish the price of the token. For no reason other than to take profits for themselves. How do you not see that. The ledger is just the scam they gave the name too. What would the price of XRP be if they didn’t release tokens every month? Ask yourself that. Why should they release any tokens period?

BenniBoom707

Fucking sell kid. Never look back. You have your money in a shitcoin. This is pure gambling. But congrats, due to luck, you beat the house. Now walk away and never come back. Or put your money into BTC/ETH and just kick your feet up

No_Leather_3676

BTC will soon be dropped as the standard. It looks like it already is. It just won’t be as profitable to whales anymore as they an hike that percentage up with the same leverage for their money. XRP, ETH or even other secure but cheaper coins like DOT will become the playground, leaving the utility disabled BTC as a relic. Anything in the top 10 is a fairly safe gamble, as safe as can be in crypto, anything outside the top 10 is pure chance. XRP to me is strong, will see good profits and has an ever growing real world case all the time, with the possibility of mooning.

biba8163

**BTC** BTC itself is a speculative asset with the narrative of digital gold. It's a digital asset with no intrinsic value except the speculative value we give it. Satoshi: > *As a thought experiment, imagine there was a base metal as scarce as gold*... > ..and one special, magical property: > - can be transported over a communications channel > *If it somehow acquired any value* at all for whatever reason, then anyone wanting to transfer wealth over a long distance could buy some, transmit it, and have the recipient sell it. > Maybe it could get an initial value circularly as you've suggested, by people foreseeing its potential usefulness for exchange. (I would definitely want some) Maybe collectors, any random reason could spark it. Alts are double speculative and need BTC to go up and then hope that BTC carries it along. They have on average a 0.90+ correlation coefficient to BTC. They have no independent value in and of themselves despite the narratives sold to you. **XRP** > Nostro/Vostro, ODL, the Standard, Global Settlement Currency, MoneyGram, SWIFT, Japanese Banks Yet XRP price today is the same as it was 8 years ago in 2017. Almost a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ Despite the bullshit narratives, XRP has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - -92% in BTC bear market from 2014-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - Modest rise in 2021 BTC bull market - Dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2018 ATH again in 2024 when BTC bull runs to $100K **LINK** > CCIP, CCID, VRF, CRE, SWIFT, Muh Town Crier will tell you the Truth, Hocus Pocus Oracles will serve you Truths from Golden Data Containers Yet LINK price today is the same as it was 5 years ago in 2020. Exactly half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20200815/ Despite the bullshit narratives, LINK has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun - -$2 to $20 ATH in 2020 when BTC went from $4K to $12K bouncing off the Covid lows and into tge halvening pump - ATH of ~$50 in 2021 BTC bullrun - -90% in 2022 BTC bear market - Left behind ever since **ETH** > DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations will be the corporations of the future), Triple Halving, Supply Crunch, DeFi (Decentralized Finance will replace Traditional Finance), RWA, muh Institutions, the Plumbing of WallStreet.... Yet ETH price today is the same as May 2021. 4 1/2 years. Almost half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20210514/ Despite the bullshit narratives, ETH has no independant value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - No real appreciation in BTC bear market from 2015-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - 900% gain in 2021 BTC bull market - -70% dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2021 ATH again in 2025 when BTC bull runs to $120K

Sh4yce

Arrival of trustless bridge to other chains like ETH such that all the value of BTC could with minimal risk and no middlemen earn a yield. I mean the whole debate vs gold as a store of value is like okay, but imagine if gold could earn a return. BTC can be that and it will be a game changer

LargeSnorlax

Bitcoin hit 5 different all time highs. In April, every asset went down a crazy amount due to Trump's tariff fears. ETH briefly touched all time highs, along with XRP and SOL. The genius act is laying a bit of framework for crypto so work has finally gotten started there. Banks are chomping at the bit at the chance to make their own stablecoins. Moons have been on a steady decline since the beginning of the year with occasional spikes upwards, nothing has changed with distributions. A lot of people are moaning because Bitcoin is currently on the downtrend, likely from being at the very end of the current cycle.

MysticDicki

The only thing I can say dont do that, it is the most stupid thing you can do. Most altcoins are useless and don’t have any utility so just invest in BTC and ETH if you don’t have time to check charts everyday

panthera_N

ico scam -> NFT ETH scam -> memecoin solana scam. if you ask me about the vision, I guess the next cycle or later will be the reign of meme stocks, easy to create a token and peg the price to a stock you want, thanks to that altcoin "investors" (gamblers) easily buy meme stocks and become real investors, buy things with "real value", of course, this entails a lot of altcoins will really die in PA in the next cycle

biba8163

The market is maturing and consolidating. - BTC Marketcap 5.4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Top 4 Alts Marketcap 4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Total Alt Marketcap 3.1X since 2017 BTC ATH - Stablecoin Marketcap 320X since 2017 BTC ATH Innovation is just crypto hype to sell you a bunch of shitcoins that make the founders and VC rich. The Use Cases are that are being adopted are clear: - Store of value = BTC - Payments, transfers, remittances = Stablecoins - Rails for Stablecoins = Ethereum, Tron, Solana, ETH L2s, etc. - Privacy *(Very little wide level public interest but honorable mention here)* There has been little innovation of anything can can provide real world value and adoption outside BTC. Remember, the Omni Layer was created on top of Bitcoin that allowed custom token ownership and transfer in the network which allowed for the creation of ICOs and the launch of Tether on the Bitcoin network. Other networks like Ethereum and Tron now provide the rails for Stablecoins instead of BTC which functions as a decentralized store of value. Remember what Vitalik said in 2018 that Altcoins are defacto Layer 2s for Bitcoin. Stablecoins have just moved to BTC Layer 2s (Altcoins) for better efficiency as rails. | | Dec. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | Nov. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $0.32T | $1.23T | $1.73T | Top 4 Alts | $0.163T | $0.8123T | $0.68T | Total Alt | $0.282T | $1.52T | $0.97T | Stablecoin | $0.001T | $0.11T | $0.32T | Total Crypto| $0.603T | $2.86T | $3.02T | **Top 4 Alt Dom. over Alts**| **57.80%** | **53.44%** | **70.10%** | **BTC Dom. Over Top 4** | **66.25%** | **60.23%** | **71.78%** | **BTC Total Alt Dominance** | **53.16%** | **44.73%** | **64.07%** **Any dominance indicated is measured excluding stablecoins* Reminder, Rails for Stablecoins need to remain cheap: > in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains. (September 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

etrigan_

If you bought altcoins, check what happened to them from top to bottom last cycle. Most of them didn't recover to previous ATH, with the largest ones (ETH and SOL) just marginally recovering. The easy part is to buy, so do it on the right time. The hardest part is to sell, especially if you need to cut losses. My tip to you is: There's no painless solution. Adjust your portfolio according to YOUR risk assessment. Sell what need to be sold and be prepared to whatever comes to the market. Forget how you will "appear" to the community. The 'community' won't be there for you when you need money for whatever it is that you are investing for. \- IF this is the beginning of a bear (which is my guess) we are not going to see new ATH. Maybe a 'dead cat bounce' (much lower than previous highs) to then run to the bottom. How would you approach that? \- IF you sell some and we go to ATH, how much would that affect you? There's no right answer. Just what seems ok for you. Don't follow the herd.

biba8163

The market is maturing and consolidating. - BTC Marketcap 5.4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Top 4 Alts Marketcap 4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Total Alt Marketcap 3.1X since 2017 BTC ATH - Stablecoin Marketcap 320X since 2017 BTC ATH Innovation is just crypto hype to sell you a bunch of shitcoins that make the founders and VC rich. The Use Cases are that are being adopted are clear: - Store of value = BTC - Payments, transfers, remittances = Stablecoins - Rails for Stablecoins = Ethereum, Tron, Solana, ETH L2s, etc. - Privacy *(Very little wide level public interest but honorable mention here)* There has been little innovation of anything can can provide real world value and adoption outside BTC. Remember, the Omni Layer was created on top of Bitcoin that allowed custom token ownership and transfer in the network which allowed for the creation of ICOs and the launch of Tether on the Bitcoin network. Other networks like Ethereum and Tron now provide the rails for Stablecoins instead of BTC which functions as a decentralized store of value. Remember what Vitalik said in 2018 that Altcoins are defacto Layer 2s for Bitcoin. Stablecoins have just moved to BTC Layer 2s (Altcoins) for better efficiency as rails. | | Dec. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | Nov. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $0.32T | $1.23T | $1.73T | Top 4 Alts | $0.163T | $0.8123T | $0.68T | Total Alt | $0.282T | $1.52T | $0.97T | Stablecoin | $0.001T | $0.11T | $0.32T | Total Crypto| $0.603T | $2.86T | $3.02T | **Top 4 Alt Dom. over Alts**| **57.80%** | **53.44%** | **70.10%** | **BTC Dom. Over Top 4** | **66.25%** | **60.23%** | **71.78%** | **BTC Total Alt Dominance** | **53.16%** | **44.73%** | **64.07%** **Any dominance indicated is measured excluding stablecoins*

epic_trader

What are the fees to use ETH these days?

eldron2323

lol ETH is a mess.

Coquito3000

I have 816 ETH staked in a CEX. They have been there for years now. I plan to exit this and roll into VOO till death. Maybe keep 400k in cash and replenish that as necessary. Why even look back? In 2021 I could have sold higher than now. Everyone said sell a portion. I kept saying either I believe this shit is going down and sell it all or I believe it s going up and I will keep gambling. But now I dont believe it's going much further. Maybe it can rally by christmas. Who knows but Im ready to move on after this christmas and if it rallies without me I am ok with that.

Coquito3000

My journey started in 2017. I believed in Bitcoin as a high risk high reward type thing and I considered it in 2013 but I didnt get involved until 2017. Well I got in bitcoin but got excited for Ethereum instead. 8 years later I feel like it's mostly vaporware. There isn't much to hold the projects except hype. And the hype has died out. Now people here want only hype and hopium and copium. I dont know if it will rally again but Im exhausted. I hold 816 ETH. Most of the clowns saying wild dumb shit here dont hold that much money to see the swings. Every other day my NW goes up more than my yearly salary. And also like you are saying. Crypto insists upon itself. L2 is the most obvious bs. Imagine needing a VISA but it only works if you use VISA EXPRESS or VISA PREMIUM. Like what are we talking about? In terms of innovation I dont know anymore. I feel like there is better innovation to chase. ROI on AI is massive compared to crypto now. And that's the tip of the iceberg. There are other things that could grow much more and much faster. And once bitcoin becomes boring speculators will move on. Crypto may have a couple years of growth but I dont think you can have permanent speculation without showing any real results. All the crypto babble doesnt even mean anything. Fusaka is coming next week with PeerDAS. Why would normies even give a shit? All that stuff doesnt mean that the world supercomputer has any valuable data on its blockchain. It's just more nonsense and a 10+ year roadmap that hasnt solved real world problems. Compare that to AI and it's just ridiculous. As it stands, I think Bitcoin is a class apart. I dont own any. But bitcoin is decentralized money for very niche cases. Say like something like wikileaks would love bitcoin. Everything else is just noise and pumps and dumps. Anyway, I'm all here for the next pump if it happens but I am tired of waiting for adoption and a real revolution.

Expensive_Special120

Nah with these killer ETH fees … not really

Still_Theory179

Bridges themselves are not really risky to use quickly, the longer you hold bridged tokens the risker it gets. Eg brige from ETH to SOL and then swap into native SOL

50sat

>Many like which ones? When did BTC or ETH node owners/miners had to do something like this? Any times this year? 7 times for bitcoin ETH only once with a second maybe before end of year. > why not just be honest and not say it was fixed automatically when clearly manual intervention was needed This is the nature of reddit. I didn't say that.

KipAndrew

honestly if losing value scares you maybe just dca 5-10% of your portfolio into BTC/ETH. Even if you ride the dip down, you're just improving your DCA for when it bounces. Maybe add one or two alts later once you understand what you're holding. NFA. DYOR.

Sonster111

honestly most people (including me) overthink this just do like 60-70% majors and then pick 2-3 things you want to take a chance on. check them once a week, not every hour. I hold BTC, ETH, SOL, SEI, and NEAR right now. that's it. might add one more if something interesting pops up but trying (and failing still) not to overdo it

GarrettJohnson1984

stop trying to pick winners. just DCA into a group of tokens you pick and stick to that. BTC, ETH should be the main bags. Put like 30% aside for some other bets you want to take a chance on.

panthera_N

ETH depreciates against BTC by about -10% per year, I guess your ETH staking return must be high, maybe 20% 🤣

GarrettJohnson1984

If you're skeptical, but still want to get in, might be worth DCAing instead of lump sum. Even if you have a lump sum to put in, DCA lets you average the cost of the investment, and you can add more each month based on your risk appetite. About Trump... yeah the whole "be your own bank" narrative gets messy when the president can tweet and personally fuck up your bag, but ultimately governments and media have always influenced anything we invest in, thats just the game. For alts, I'd maybe wait til you're comfortable with BTC/ETH.

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brutang

My ETH validator node proposed its first block today after 105 days. Earned 0.05623 ETH. Pretty happy about that. A normal day is around 0.0021 ETH.

BuiltToSpinback

Could we worse. We couldve bought ETH

maxintos

Many like which ones? When did BTC or ETH node owners/miners had to do something like this? Any times this year? Also even if it's the principle of the network and you have good reasons for why it's done, why not just be honest and not say it was fixed automatically when clearly manual intervention was needed?

KingPabloo

Crypto shouldn’t be a journey and it should be less than 5% of your investment portfolio (and I’d argue less than 1%) which should basically just be between BTH and ETH.

No-Masterpiece2246

Bhutan digital ID also on ETH

piggleii

Damn, Tom Lee was right about ETH after all. ETH definitely going to 15k by end of year. Oh, what's that? He says 7k now? Ok, well, ETH definitely going to 7k by end of year then!

Catnips64

Grandpa ETH and grandma Sol best step aside for Monad. Time for bed oldies

GardenKeep

I’ll prob sell half around $10k ETH and half of that at around $20k ETH

XRP_SPARTAN

This is my second one. Even last cycle, people said “no more deep crashes due to institutions blah blah blah” and then the market got obliterated on may 19th 2021. I remember seeing ETH dive nearly 50% on that day alone. And despite that, people still kept saying Bitcoin won’t have nasty bear markets anymore…these people never learn. We always go lower than what most people expect!

kironet996

It’s his second attempt at long ETH, last attempt ended in loss for his both BTC & ETH longs. 

Express-Silver27

And even more till your bleeding BTC and sweating ETH

biba8163

Leon will be a bagholding for eeons > ALL-TIME HIGHS expected for February 2025! 🔥 (February 4, 2025) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1886796125107322961 > As the #ETH balance drops sharply, scarcity is tightening even more than Bitcoin's. All-time highs will come sooner than most expect! (February 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1757119412904050794 > 📈 If this trend continues, expect much, much higher Ethereum prices. (November 2024) > Supply squeeze incoming. > BULLISH.🚀 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1860996379243692157 > 135K ETH burned since the Merge.🔥 (October 2024) > Everyone still underestimates how bullish this is for #ETH when the real bull run kicks in.📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1847676543310713067 > Odds seem high that the bottom for #ETH is in! 📈💪 (August 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1820456771783360850 > - The #ETHEREUM SUPPLY CRISIS is getting more SERIOUS by the day. (August 2024) > - With staking rates soaring and exchange reserves plummeting, as soon as sellers are exhausted and demand increases, #ETH will fly!📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1829151012428628402 > The market still doesn't grasp how scarce #ETH truly is. (August 2024) > Just imagine what happens if demand picks up even slightly — ETH will melt faces!🔥 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1823037542062793069 > With the imminent trading start of the #ETH ETF, institutional interest is set to rise. (July 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1810943563641016835 > - ETH is becoming SCARCER than BTC. (July 2024) > - ETH Exchange Balance: 10.189% 📉 > - BTC Exchange Balance: 15.086% 📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1809923770821267878 > Most investors still don't realize how tight the ETH supply side is and how big the effect of the ETF will be! (July 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1813102955874382043

ecnecn

[https://phemex.com/news/article/crypto-whale-opens-significant-long-positions-on-eth-and-zec-39109](https://phemex.com/news/article/crypto-whale-opens-significant-long-positions-on-eth-and-zec-39109) ETH and ZCash... many Long Leverage Wales... wonder what kind of news are around the corner - that must be insider

Distinct-Thanks-6477

I basically pick my coins based on fundamentals. Right now i majorly hold 5 tokens - BTC, ETH, LINK, TAO, AIOZ. The rest are in bits. I am holding these right now because i truly believe in their long-term credentials.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Recent data shows a high percentage of Bitcoin (BTC), Ether (ETH), and Solana (SOL) held at a loss, but much of this supply is locked in staking, ETFs, or institutional reserves, reducing liquid supply under pressure. For BTC, 35% is held at a loss, but institutional holdings and lost coins lower its liquid float. ETH has 37% at a loss, but over 40% is locked. SOL has 70% at a loss, but 73.6% is staked. These factors suggest the loss percentages overstate potential sell pressure, as much of the supply is not liquid. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Jebne

Not to mention you shoulda also all inned BTC in december 2018, hold till summer 2019 peak and sell, all in during the exact ETH bottom of the covid crash, hold till 4K, swap to BNB, all in that to a doge 100x long, dump (100x short preferred) when Elon was in SNL, buy back in at the bottom of 2021 summer, sell at 69K, go 100x short at the absofucking lute peak, hold that till ftx crash, then all in btc, hold till 100k, swap to gold ETF with 100x leverage. It was all so obvious, why did you not do it??

Koguruy

Absolutely agree with you. Not even ETH is respected (regarding altcoins)

PirateSKB

Uh, I have the day of work, i'm a man, and my libido came back thanks to low stress and free time I can very much assure you that the one thing on my mind isn't the ETH/BTC ratio lol

Aerocryptic

Why did I buy an appartment in 2015? Should have gone all in on BTC instead. Or better on ETH. Or better should have mined BTC with 200 PCs in 2009 and put everyting on ETH in 2014, swap to BTC summer 17 and sell at the pico top in december I'm really good at hindsight trading

inDilema

Men want only one thing and that is ETH/BTC at 0.1 Is it disgusting?

inDilema

Men want only one thing and that is ETH/BTC at 0.1 Is it disgusting?

nitroacid411

BTC - GOLD ETH - SILVER EASY picking.

T1Pimp

Barron just opened longs for ETH. So, Trump is about to manipulate the markets again.

redstormrock

I like their channel and basically watch most of their videos for about 4 years or so. However I would never consider subscribing to the club thing. Their general sentiment is Guy is bullish on ETH, Nick on Solana (or at least was) and kinda ride the narrative strategy overall.

Letsmovethemarket

Everyone is not worried. It's called volatility! Learn about it if you want to invest in the space. Buy BTC and ETH. The others are just poker chips on the roulette table.

BarrKk-SKA

33% BTC, 33% ETH, 33 % WeFi would be my recommendation

BarrKk-SKA

Hi, while I also recommend to invest in BTC, ETH, ADA regularly, my best choice would be WeFi (future of Banking Defi - credit card already operational).They planned a constant growth, and you can even make better long term investment mining the WeFi token at low price (just buying ITO). We are potentially at the end of this cycle for BTC, and the strategy of WeFi makes it very resilient even during this type of phase. If you have questions, happy to help. https://preview.redd.it/uitpis5asd3g1.jpeg?width=2622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51248d14dee3343a422bc31f54eb48ff83093a56

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MariachiArchery

The beauty of Ethereum is that it doesn't really need to scale. It functions just fine as a settlement layer, and that is all it really *needs* to do. Would it be nice if it did? Yes. Does it *need* to? No. There is opportunity off-chain to scale ETH, and that is just fine. Scaling is not an issue holding ETH back.

jekpopulous2

I’ve bought BTC and ETH at all levels for the past 7 years. I look for slumps at this point but don’t really care. I’m on like the 5th “death of crypto” rn. I don’t care… especially with ETH. Like half the global financial system is building on rollups but price down? Just get it. Get some BTC too…. pick a few alts to throw like 15% at. If you don’t need the money rn you’re good. Just buy and wait it out when things are bad. If you might need that money rn stay away.

nitroacid411

Checklist: November 27th China and USA trade peace deal. November 27th Russia and Ukraine war peace deal. December 10th Federal USA rate cut. Cartel got liquidated throughout the month of November. Long were obliterated. Russia got obliterated on their BTC holdings. I do not think they can pay their soldiers wages anymore? Andrew Tate got liquidated last week. Baron Trump opened longs last week. Tommy Lee is still holding ETH. Michael Saylor is still holding BTC. Robert Kyiosaki is a slumlord not a BTC OG. Peter Schiff sniffs gold in his sleep. Invest in gold per Peter Sniffer. What have you seen in the past 1 to 7 days. Ask yourself? Ask your team? Time to invest or sellout? Let's go.

Feeling_Yak7c

my new technique, Daily $5 BTC, $5 ETH, and $3 random Gem.

jekpopulous2

Banks can push a cryptography in a week or two. A blockchain has to soft-fork and update the consensus mechanism on all their nodes. That said… I know ETH and other major coins are planning to soft-fork to update their nodes over the next year or two but haven’t heard anything about BTC doing it. Alarming honestly.

pcm2a

Does that make ETH go up?

GroundbreakingPage41

Don’t really think that’s fair given ETH’s ETF launch was while the last bear market was ending while SOL’s ETF didn’t get approved until the current bear market was beginning. You also conveniently leave out that ETH has had significant ETF outflows.