ETH

_speedoflight_

* 60% RSU + VTI (Taxable + Trad 401k/IRA), * 20% RE, * 20% BTC + ETH (cold storage & Roth IRA).

Rare_Rich6713

I hear you, staking can feel like free money until you actually break down the real returns vs expectations. For the major PoS assets like ETH and ADA, yields are generally in the low single digits usually around 3–6% APY or so, depending on the platform and network conditions. That’s decent, but definitely not crazy, especially after fees or if you’re just delegating instead of running your own validator. For BTC, the situation’s a bit different because Bitcoin doesn’t natively support staking. But with protocols like Babylon enabling BTC holders to contribute to securing PoS networks, you can earn rewards on BTC too

DifficultyMoney9304

I know crypto.. i've been in it long enough to see similar vaporware your referring to blowup 90%+ alts are not it. Unless they are ETH or maybe SOL.

CM19901

I became an ETH Maxi thanks to this 5 years bear market, so I get it 👍

Numerous_Wonders81

1) “Hard cap doesn’t equal Bitcoin scarcity / social consensus matters” Correct — and that cuts both ways. Bitcoin’s “immutability” is social too. The real question is: what’s the credible commitment of each system now and what are the governance levers to change it? ETH has changed monetary policy multiple times (issuance + burn mechanics fundamentally changed after EIP-1559 and the Merge). So “code can change” isn’t an Algorand dunk — it’s a universal property. The relevant comparison is how hard it is to coordinate a change and what interests dominate that coordination. 2) “Algorand changed its supply schedule / accelerated vesting” Yes — early distribution policy changed. That’s not “revisionism,” it’s history. But you’re acting like that automatically invalidates everything else. It doesn’t. Two separate axes: Token distribution / emissions (economics) Consensus / settlement guarantees (protocol) You can criticize early emissions while still acknowledging: Algorand’s L1 gives deterministic finality with fast settlement and no reorg game. 3) “ETH ‘middleman’ argument is overstated; PBS/relays mitigate MEV” This is the biggest sleight of hand. Saying “PBS isn’t centralization, it’s mitigation” is like saying “adding a middle layer isn’t a middle layer.” PBS/relays/builders create structural specialization, which creates concentration pressure. “Validators can build their own blocks” is technically true, but economically irrational at scale — so it centralizes in practice. That’s the whole point: decentralization isn’t what’s possible, it’s what’s incentive-compatible. 4) “Centralization risk is researched and mitigated, unlike hand-waving here” Researching a risk doesn’t delete it — it admits it exists. The critique is that ETH scaled by moving complexity and trust boundaries up the stack (L2s, sequencing assumptions, cross-domain messaging, etc.). That’s a tradeoff. Pretending it’s “not centralization” because it’s being studied is marketing. 5) “HBAR comparison is a strawman” Not really. Nobody claims Hedera is permissionless today — that’s exactly why it’s relevant in a ‘decentralization vs tradeoffs’ discussion. If a network has a council/permissioned governance model, that’s a different trust model. Mentioning it isn’t a strawman — it’s classification. 6) “Bitcoin energy per transaction is a bad metric / security budget not tied to tx count” Agree. Per-tx energy is a sloppy metric. Better framing: PoW’s security budget is tied to block reward + fees, not tx throughput. But that doesn’t magically make PoW critique “activism.” The real critique is: PoW converts external resources into Sybil resistance. Some people value that, others don’t. Call it a tradeoff — not a moral victory. 7) “Virtually zero e-waste for PoS is marketing; hardware still obsoletes” Also agree partially. PoS still uses hardware. But it’s disingenuous to pretend PoW and PoS are comparable here: PoW’s competitive dynamic explicitly incentivizes constant capex/opex arms races. PoS doesn’t require burning energy to stay competitive in the same way. So yes, “zero” is marketing — but orders of magnitude lower is not. 8) “Stake concentration introduces centralization risks PoW does not” PoW has concentration too — it just hides inside mining pools + cheap energy geography + ASIC supply chains. PoS concentration is visible (stake). PoW concentration is visible (hash). Neither is immune. 9) “Cardano chose hard languages for formal verification; accessibility isn’t rigor” Fine — but “Haskell = safety” is not automatic. What matters is: whether the platform’s design + tooling reduces exploit surface in practice, and whether composability + execution semantics encourage safer patterns. Accessibility and rigor aren’t opposites; they’re orthogonal. 10) “Overall reads like an Algorand pitch deck; tradeoffs exist” Sure. Tradeoffs exist. That’s the whole conversation. But dismissing protocol arguments as “pitch deck” is a dodge. The core claims being made are protocol-level: deterministic finality fast L1 settlement low fees no reorg / no confirmation depth games You can say “ecosystem smaller” without pretending those guarantees don’t matter.

SpacklingCumFart

ETH and BTC are the ONLY two cryptos that are worth investing in. I lost a lot of money figuring that out.

neo101b

Taikos built on Ethereum, and will hopefully be the go to L2. Its completely decentralised, no L2 sequencer, its fast and cheap. The best part its fully compatible with ETH contracts and such. I know it gets some hate because of Loopring, hopefully they can over come that. I don't think its s shit coin, they have great tech. If the clarity act gets passed, it will favour that token.

inShambles3749

Uhu because all that traffic is totally organic. Just like SOLs. Lmao just go touch some grass and accept that Algo is trash just like pretty much everything else except BTC and XMR. ETH maybe as well

epic_trader

Yes it does. Ethereum has a rate of inflation that is limited by the number of validators. The max possible inflation is 1.5% per year, but in order to reach that, every single ETH has to be staked. Currently inflation sits at 0.9%, before accounting for any ETH burned.

epic_trader

Ethereum has about 1 million validators, but that is partly due to how validators used to be limited to staking increments of 32 ETH. Many stakers run several validators, centralized players like Lido and Coinbase run thousands. If you want to get the actual count of unique validators, you'll probably get close with a node count which is around 13,000.

MinimalGravitas

> I said your data points are cherry-picked. It isn't cherry picked... it covers the entire time from the first ETH staking deposit to now. You either don't know what the term 'cherry picked' means, or (much more likely) just don't care about arguing honestly. > not answering simple questions. I said at the start that I will happily move onto new topics with you after we finish the first one you made a claim about. You don't just get to move on to something else when I call out your bullshit on your initial point, we can move on after you acknowledge that claim was false.

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lexxwern

Your data points are points in time.  My assessment was long term, not right now. You claim honesty and yet you try to frame me in a strawman.  Now please address the facts about ETH: - Limited supply of ETH or other PoS coins - Centralized nature of control The only difference between ETH and fiat is that ETH Foundation (I.e. Vitalik) is in control, and not central banks.

tornavec

I’ve spent the last six months stacking Monero and staking TRX at rates up to 20%. Honestly, I’ve moved on from BTC and ETH completely.

Vartemis

"Solana gonna kill ETH" mfers 🤡

jkl2035

It’s depending on the algorithms used for encryption in on the blockchain, there are Blockchains existing which apply algorithms considered to be quantum Secure by NIST, BTC & ETH have to be migrate

Unlikely_Poem307

You will get only problems using mixers, try Monero (XMR) instead via [Darkchange](https://darkchange.app/), exchange ETH for XMR it's instant and currently they got 800+ XMR available, which is pretty good.

The_Roaring_Fork

And the rest besides BTC and ETH are just zombies waiting to die

fugogugo

well duh .. it's been 10 years and the only crypto worth keeping is bitcoin even ETH is losing

MinimalGravitas

Your 'gotcha' is from Aug 19, 2021, 4 and a half years ago... Since then they implemented the toggles that I referred to above, which just eliminate entire sections of the TVL, as described in the note you have linked to... > Other TVL aggregators attempt to remove this double counting by just removing the TVL of some protocols from total TVL, but this approach leads to incorrect data. One of the most basic protocols, aave, has deposits in a lot of basic assets such as ETH and USDC, but it also has DAI and uniswap LP tokens, so if you include it into the TVL sum you will introduce some double counting, yet if you exclude it you will be excluding a lot of TVL that should be counted. Anything you do will lead to incorrect data. That means that the $74B is almost certainly an undercounting of the 'true' value. But nice try I guess...?

Available_Win5204

Would have made more with ETH.  WAY more with NVDA. 

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Not answering as a retail user here, but from a platform perspective. We’re UEX US, a very young (a few months old) exchange startup. From what we see, the most commonly staked assets are ETH, SOL, and ADA because they offer relatively easy access to liquidity without long lockups. Some of the higher-yield staking opportunities are on assets like ATOM, which has a longer unbonding period (around 21 days). For staking rewards to actually matter, you generally need a meaningful position and a long-term view. If someone holds an asset they believe in for multiple cycles, earning 5–6% while keeping exposure can make sense. Short-term trading often ends up wiping out whatever staking gains you would have gotten. On our side we also offer “savings accounts,” which are basically a simpler alternative to staking, with yields in the ~3.5% to 16% APY range depending on the asset. Not advertising or dropping links — if anyone’s curious you can just check the profile. We’re a new product and very open to communication both video and audio, feedback etc.

SeriousGains

This sub has been purely for ETH shilling since at least 2017

Numerous_Wonders81

I’m reading you loud and clear; you’re just describing a different kind of loop. Even after you strip out staking, your '$74B DeFi TVL' is still a hall of mirrors. ​The Rehypothecation Trap: Ethereum DeFi isn't growing through new capital; it's growing through leverage. Users deposit ETH into Aave, borrow USDC, and use that USDC to buy/deposit more ETH. You’re counting the same 'organic' dollar multiple times across lending protocols. ​Whale Concentration: That '$3.5B weekly growth' you're flexing? It’s not new users. It’s a tiny group of whales and curators intermediating the vast majority of that value to hedge leveraged crypto risk, not to build real-world utility. ​The Utility Gap: While you’re shuffling $3.5B in leveraged loans, Algorand is actually moving Real Economic Value (REV). We’re settling 1 million+ airline tickets and **$1B in national utility bills**. One chain is a circular economy of debt; the other is a global payment rail. ​The Nakamoto Reality: No matter how many billions of debt you stack, your network's security is still bottlenecked by a Nakamoto Coefficient of 2. Algorand is 6x more decentralized and inclusive because we don't have a $105,000 gatekeeper fee to participate. ​Ethereum is a playground for money legos. Algorand is the engineering standard for the real world. Stop worshipping the debt loops and look at the utility.

Numerous_Wonders81

Ethereum's TVL is a total fraud. Its double counting value without adding capital. It’s built on 'recursive leverage' where the same ETH is counted as TVL in the staking pool, then again as an LST (stETH) in a lending protocol, and a third time in a restaking layer like EigenLayer. You're counting the same dollar 3-4 times to pump your vanity metrics. https://blog.quicknode.com/restaking-revolution-eigenlayer-defi-yields-2025/?hl=en-US

Numerous_Wonders81

Right and then you said but ETH has more tvl, I posted a an article about algos tvl but the thing is eths tvl is a loop. Did you read what I posted?

gigabyteIO

The upside is 90% of all ALGO are now in circulation and it has a capped supply unlike ETH/SOL. It has probably the best underlying cryptography in all of crypto and is one of the only truly quantum secure chains. Silvio Micali and Chris Piekart are no joke.

account009988

BTC/ETH is still the best

Numerous_Wonders81

​Minimal, your 'growth' is a total joke. ​TVL is Fake: Bragging about TVL in 2026 is embarrassing. Over 60% of ETH's TVL is just a recursive loop of restaking—it’s the same dollar double-counted four times to look big. It’s not 'value,' it’s leverage. ​Whale Aristocracy: You’re literally defending a network with a $105,000 gatekeeper fee (32 ETH). That’s not decentralization; it’s an elite club for whales. ​The 'Lido' Chain: Because of your 32 ETH barrier, Lido controls 32% of your network. One single point of failure and your 'world computer' goes dark. ​Engineering vs. Hype: Algorand’s Nakamoto Coefficient is 6x higher than ETH’s because we actually let the community participate. While you're waiting 15 minutes for 'probabilistic' finality and paying 700x higher fees, ALGO settles in 3.5s for $0.0002.

y0ujin

If want to learn a bit about cryptocurrencies while not risking too much - I would suggest you this portfolio: 50% - BTC 25% - ETH 25% - Altcoins you like from top 20 on CoinmarketCap (except stablecoins of course)

Boner-Boii-69

Wait, ETH isnt a stablecoin?

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tldr; Major US non-bank lender Newrez will begin accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum, SEC-approved spot ETFs backed by BTC or ETH, and USD-backed stablecoins as part of mortgage qualification starting February. This move allows borrowers to use eligible crypto holdings for income and asset verification without selling them. Newrez aims to adapt to the growing role of digital assets and cater to younger generations of wealth holders, while requiring all mortgage payments and closing funds in USD. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

ADHD-Developer

I have 1 eth for retirement reserve, getting staked at 5.5 % APY, i dont see my self selling it for the next 20 years, can reach 2.65 ETH after 20 years, and alot of aidrops along the way

Calm-Professional103

Although I lament it, the enshitification of BTC and ETH with “structured financial products” is the real issue. Inevitable that TradFi would eventually discover s way to capture and extract fees from something they otherwise could not touch. 

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Numerous_Wonders81

Flexing Ethereum's $125B TVL in 2026 is just admitting you don't understand the math behind it. Over 60% of that 'value' is a recursive loop—liquid staking and restaking protocols (LSTs/LRTs) count the same $1 three or four times as it moves through the stack. It’s a vanity metric that masks stagnant growth. ​Ethereum has become a Whale-Only Aristocracy where you need $105,000 (32 ETH) just to run a validator. Algorand is a True Democracy where 1 ALGO gives you a seat at the table. This is why ALGO’s Nakamoto Coefficient is 6x higher—it is technically more decentralized and resilient to collusion. ​While you're paying 700x higher fees for 'probabilistic finality' on ETH (waiting minutes to be sure a trade won't fork), Algorand settles in 3.5 seconds with instant finality. That’s why institutions like TravelX, Lofty, and Agrotoken chose ALGO for real-world assets: a bank doesn't wait for 'confirmations.' ETH wins on hype; ALGO wins on engineering."

Numerous_Wonders81

You argue that Ethereum's $125 billion TVL makes Algorand’s $53 million insignificant. However, a high TVL often reflects "stagnant" wealth rather than active utility. ​Barriers to Entry: To become a validator on Ethereum, you need 32 ETH (roughly $105,000 at a $3.3k price). On Algorand, the barrier is just 1 ALGO. This makes Algorand’s ecosystem far more inclusive for the "average" person rather than just whales. ​Network Activity: While Ethereum has more "locked" value, Algorand is built for high-velocity transactions, currently processing roughly 1,200 Transactions Per Second (TPS) with near-instant finality.​The user paints Ethereum as the only viable option, but Ethereum still relies heavily on complex Layer-2 solutions (like Arbitrum or zkSync) to be usable. ​No Forking & Instant Finality: Algorand offers instant finality, meaning once a transaction is confirmed (in about 4 seconds), it cannot be reversed or "forked". On Ethereum, you often have to wait for multiple block confirmations to be certain a transaction is final. ​Pure Proof of Stake (PPoS): Algorand’s PPoS mechanism randomly and secretly selects validators, which prevents the centralization risks seen in other networks where a few large staking pools hold most of the power.​The most common "Ethereum-killer" argument remains the cost of participation. ​Flat Fees: Algorand has a fixed, predictable fee of $0.001 per transaction. ​Gas Fee Volatility: Even after upgrades, Ethereum gas fees can fluctuate wildly, often reaching $0.50 to $50+ depending on network congestion. For decentralized finance (DeFi) to be truly global, it cannot cost $5 to send $10.​While Ethereum dominates speculative DeFi, Algorand is winning in Real World Assets (RWA) and institutional adoption. ​Institutional Focus: Algorand is being used for central bank digital currency (CBDC) pilots, bond issuances, and tokenizing traditional assets like real estate and equities. ​Sustainability: Algorand is carbon-negative by design, making it the preferred choice for enterprises with strict ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) requirements.

MinimalGravitas

> Why this sub is full of it for eth? Because if you think numbers like this are impressive (and presumably you do because you posted the article): > According to DeFiLlama, Algorand’s Total Value Locked (TVL) has been steadily rising since mid-December and currently stands at $52.95 million. The increase in TVL over the past few weeks indicates growing activity and interest in Algorand’s ecosystem. Then surely you must see why people would be impressed by Ethereum's equivalent numbers? In the last 7 days DeFi TVL on Ethereum has grown from $118.704 Billion to $125.613 Billion. That's an increase of $6.909 Billion of DeFi TVL, in 7 days... 130x more than the TOTAL value of Algorand's DeFi TVL quoted in the article. I hope that context helps you understand why people here are likely to be more 'full of it for ETH'. If you are upset by how insignificant that makes your preferred chain seem then I suggest sticking to information bubbles where you are not exposed to the broader context of other ecosystems.

cunasmoker69420

Friend of mine did the same on a smaller scale, got a 10k loan when ETH was kicking off the first time. Figured if he loses it all its *just 10k* in the grand scheme of things and he'll pay it back eventually Dude ended up buying a house with the gains

Unlikely_Poem307

You will get only problems using mixers, try Monero (XMR) instead via [Darkchange](https://darkchange.app), exchange ETH for XMR it's instant and currently they got 800+ XMR available, which is pretty good.

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Sea-Environment-5938

Staking is nice, but I stopped calling it 'free money' once I realized it's mostly yield in the same asset and price volatility/inflation can easily outweigh the APY. ETH is my main stake for long-term exposure. Are you staking natively or through an exchange?

TheRicFlairDrip

the same custodian holding an BTC ETF doesnt have plenty of altcoins to choose from, ETH, XRP, SOL and LINK maybe. Those arent even altcoins anymore if you ask me, they are crypto blue chips.

robmeetspeople

ETH and SOL are being used to build the future of financial transactions. BTC will be an asset like gold, so it on what use cases matter to you. If BTC is an option in work retirement accounts, I expect it moons.

piggleii

Ok, now the latest ETH narrative is something about Mr Beast. What happened to JP Morgan tokenizing everything? And what's latest with Vitalik's "Trustless Manifesto"?

No_South_9912

900 BTC, 600 ETH, 300 SOL, $200 for random alt coins.

Maximum-Surround8969

Lmao some are making it their 3rd hold next to BTC, ETH, SOL, FART

DBRiMatt

"ETH killers" need to gain attention somehow.

__redruM

Just the opposite IMO, BTC and ETH are the only safe-ish crypto investments. And you should also be buying stock based ETFs like QQQ, SMH, and VOO.

einfachmaro

Still hold $ETH

No_South_9912

BTC, ETH, SOL are the "investment grade" coins according to major brokerages. That's why they offer ETPs. Then there's XRP, DOGE, LTC, HBAR offered as "3rd party" ETPs. Then there's the coins with no ETPs offered, only owned by those heavily into the crypto ecosystem.

Arijan101

You're the one spreading disinformation. You have no clue what you're talking about, and are shilling BS because you obviously have an interest in doing so. The chances of "quantum proofing" ETH or any other Blockchain are smaller then the chances of you and me winning the lottery twice in the same year. If a quantum computer ever becomes fully operational, it will take programmers a few months to break even the new theoretically quantum resistant algorithms like Kyber or Dilithium,because it can be easily programmed to solve lattice problems or any other problems for that matter. This assuming that ETH survives until the creation of a fully functional quantum computer.

Arijan101

Quantum resistant cryptography is a myth more than a theory. It's like applying another coat of paint on a wooden fence in the hopes that a tsunami wouldn't break it. This entire stunt looks more like a marketing B.S. thinly vailed in a "scientific" see through coat to slap a "quantum resistant" label on ETH without the means of proving it really works,because there simply isn't any way to test it, since the thing it should be providing protection against doesn't exists yet.

Calm-Professional103

BTC and ETH pretty well cover it all. 

Erocdotusa

Will this reduce the number of accounts that will have those 8 bit ugly headshot profile pictures, hundreds of thousands of followers, and usernames that have like ".ETH" or equivalent in them?

Hooftly

By using Quantum resistant cryprography for signatures. Right now ETH uses ECDSA which in theory can be broken by Quatum Computing once realized. Algorithms like Falcon or Dilithium are resistant to this Attack vector so using them instead of ECDSA provides security against this.

BigvalBROski

Remember those clowns….. “ ETH to $15k ny the end of 2021!!!!!!”

epic_trader

You can send 100k transactions on Ethereum L1 today for 0.3 ETH.

Prestigious_Long777

Your CEO will dump 4M ETH on your exit liquidity if it even tickles above 5k. 30-40k is unrealistic until the USD starts dead printing the global reserve currency, at which point 30k will get your 3 months rent.

outoftownMD

I was drilling into a wall in 2018 in my house. My stud finder said I was in wood, but it went through to easily. I pushed further and hit the hot water pipe. It shot a 30 ft maximum water temp through the wall to the other side of my place. I addressed the water frantically. Months later, I was looking for my codes because I'd bought a new trezor. I couldn't find them and couldn't remember the code to get into the trezor I had. I looked everywhere. I eventually found them in my bookshelf that had been hit 30ft across by the water. Water damaged, faded away. all BTC and ETH purchased from 2016-2017, gone. (11btc+, and 80eth+). I was spooked from it all and didnt want to ever touch it again. In 2020, I slowly starting buying again. In 2021, had reaccumulated 1.6 btc from slow purchases. put all of it into SPELL. it ran up to 8BTC + worth. Then it came out that the treasury for SPELL was connected to QUADRIGACX collapse and potential founder death. It fucking cratered before I was even aware since I wasn't frequently checking. It fell all the way back to pretty much my initial, AND I HELD. SUNK COST FALLACY hit hard with LOSS AVERSION. (understand these). I took the 'last' BTC I had and wanted to put it somewhere 'secure'. I SHOULD have put it into USDC or USDT if I had the knowledge I have now. My cousins who had been in before me, and with the feeling of SCF and LA alive in me, had me highly suggestible to any insights or recommendations. They recommended I put I put it into a 'blue chip NFT'. so I bought a high rarity Doodle. :(. A few months later, Doodle pumped and I didn't sell. A few months after that, the Doodle founder came out saying 'Doodle was never meant to be an investment vehicle', CRATERED 80-90%. so from 1.64 reaccumulated BTC (+ 20 ETH that I had on the side making some trades), I went up to 8BTC, greed held, cratered to 0.4 BTC. ETH from 20> 46>4>2). So, journey indeed.

Fit_Brilliant1708

Just invest in the blue chip alts. The top layer 1’s like ETH. The ones needed for the next financial system like LINK. Privacy like XMR. The top in every category essentially.

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ADHD-Developer

If you think about it, just look at ETH versus ADA. Charles Hoskinson talks nonstop about governance, “real” decentralization, academic papers, proof of stake, privacy chains… all the buzzwords you can imagine. Supposedly all about real-world use, yet the network TVL is basically nonexistent. Vitalik, on the other hand, is like “I don’t care, I’ll fix problems as they come.” The focus is simply on building and letting real usage grow. And what sits on top of Ethereum? AAVE and Chainlink, billions of dollars in TVL and the largest blockchain oracle out there. So honestly, who’s actually winning here?

Aerocryptic

Not really a grifter. More of a fraud. He got lucky by being introduced to Vitalik when ETH was just a white paper.

Successful-Win-8035

I would do ripple, and XRP instead. ETH is at the end of its life cycle.

SameWeekend13

Well only after ETH starts pumping, still hasn’t happened. Also a key indicator for end is if LTC starts pumping. Even that hasn’t happened yet.

Horror-Sector7498

With $20 and a “go big or go home” vibe, maybe try a mix — a meme coin for fun + a small portion in a mainstream like BTC or ETH. Could be risky, could be moon 🚀💸

The-Happy-Mannequin

I have been guilty of jumping into the alt coin hype and have learned an expensive lesson... Unless you are the lucky or incredibly smart .5%, stay away from alt coins. 80%+ Should go to Bitcoin. 10%+ ETH. A few percent in SOL. XRP is ok but I'd keep any alt coin investment outside of the top 10 at less than 3%.

VariatCA

Guess that helps explain why Crypto was up on a day where stocks were down as much as -1.5% and the entire Mag-7 was in the red. ETFs set another, daily-consecutive, higher-high of net inflows since early October. **+$840 Million** in net BTC inflows today (Blackrock alone was +$648M) and ETH had net inflows of +$175 Million. That's over $1 Billion worth of ETF purchasing today, and just over $2 Billion in the last 3 days. Shorts wanted *none* of that smoke today trying to go up against that sort of accelerated buying momentum.

North-Stranger-7028

Buy ETH and the rest is easy

discipleofvitalik

Capped supply is a weakness long term, what’s important is gradually increasing scarcity. Issuance is what secures the network. Once the BTC supply cap is reached how will miners be incentivized to secure the network? Transaction fees are down only, digital gold is mostly held not transacted. ETH issuance isn’t capped but it is limited and lower than BTC by percentage of supply. Ethereum also has burn mechanisms that could make it deflationary. It’s ok to prefer BTC but the intellectual dishonesty or lack of clear discourse on the quantum resistance or security budget issues is cultish.

trx-repo

Just DCA that 3k into BTC and ETH over the next few months and forget about it. Don't try to time the market or pick obscure altcoins if you want safety. See you in 2031.

Ghola_Mentat

Just buy BTC. I regret putting any money into alts, including ETH. My BTC position has doubled in value and I’ve been buying continuously for years constantly raising my average cost basis. I’m just a little in the green on ETH now after a similar period of time. Every other alt is deep in the red.

Escapement_Watch

BTC is not above your budget. Get some BTC/ETH/SOL ignore the rest. win in 5-10 years. slowly DCA every month and use cold storage.

jawni

Don't think so. They expanded deposit support to ETH, Arbitrum, and Solana but I haven't seen anything official about them moving.

OpticallyMosache

If it's a significant amount of money and part of your savings/investing portfolio just swap 75% to BTC & 25% to ETH. Be done with Pulsechsin. If it's more of a gamble, consider one of the following (IMO) USELESS, ASTER, BONK, SPX6900 or DOG (Bitcoin rune or bridged Solona version). I personally went all BTC back in September exvept still hold ASTER.

Escapement_Watch

Pulse chain is just a shitty eth. If you wanna buy pulse just stick with eth. Sol will be 1000 dollars one day....long term. could be 1 year could be 100 years from now. and if it hits 1000 dollars it will hit 10,000 dollars. It could be in 1 year or 100 years from now. But it will get there. Not if just when. BTC/ETH/SOL your good to stack and hold forever. Stake your solana for 7% returns and eth for 3%. btc makes its own returns by pumping hardest.

Gotglo

Unfortunately the corrupted US govt is here to control and deceive us like clockwork just like how they are being controlled. Alot of US politicians have dual citizenship and pledge allegiance to another country if y’all didnt know. This is why privacy coins have already been a hot topic and will continue to be. Please don’t not call me antisemitic this is truth and reality that all US infrastructure is controlled for the gain of themselves and to the elites they send money to, to avoid getting blackmailed. Some notable relations in crypto: -Barry Silbert: Founder and CEO of Digital Currency Group (DCG), a major investment firm in the space. Charlie Shrem: Early Bitcoin entrepreneur, founder of BitInstant, and a key figure in Bitcoin's early days. -Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF): Founder of FTX, a major (though now defunct) crypto exchange, who has a Jewish background. -David Sacks: A prominent Jewish venture capitalist and PayPal COO, named "White House A.I. and Crypto Czar" for the Trump administration. -Rabbi Michael Caras (@thebitcoinrabbi): A Chabad rabbi who connects Bitcoin and Jewish law (halacha), bridging the two communities online. -ETH - Ethereum Co-founder Joseph Lubin, a Jew, previously worked in finance at Goldman Sachs. He single-handedly created ConsenSys, building MetaMask, Infura, these foundational tools for Ethereum. In simple terms: ETH is the 'water, electricity, and coal' of the crypto world. Regardless of whether it rises or falls, you still need to use it; it’s the legitimate child of the military. -WLD coin Founder Sam Altman, the big guy who previously worked at OpenAI, a Jew with an extraordinarily strong background. -Founder Eli Ben-Sasson, one of the pioneers of Zcash's zero-knowledge proofs, from Israel, really knowledgeable in cryptography. STRK is an L2 project, specializing in ZK technology, using mathematical methods that allow you to verify without revealing details. -Solana Founder Anatoly, previously an engineer working on chips at Qualcomm. The investor lineup is very fierce: Multicoin, A16z, and David Sacks (a Jew), one of the PayPal Mafia. -XRP - Ripple Founders Chris Larsen and Jed McCaleb, with a lot of early money from the old financial sector, including funds like A16z. Although the SEC has been chasing lawsuits for two years, it just won't die. Why? Because there are people backing it up, it's really not something a regular small project can compare with. -Donald J Trump The current US President has expressed strong support and took significant actions solidifying the U.S.-Israel relationship, including recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. Embassy, recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, increasing military aid, and challenging Iran, fulfilling campaign promises that demonstrated deep commitment to Israel's security and interests.

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Yeah i mean why would anyone be obligated here? I wasn't referring to obligation so I'm not sure why you are bringing that up. I was mentioning how using Ripple/XRP would benefit others, not that others have to use it. Tokenization is coming, a new enhanced efficient cross border payments system is coming and inevitable as long as the worlds tech hasn't disintegrated. If you think JP Morgan is going to be the King of the future of cross border payments and tokenization and offer better solutions and products, then invest in JP Morgan i hope. Good look to JP Morgan finding the liquidity and trust to move the worlds money and catching up to other blockchains years ahead of them. And no matter what a JP Morgan blockchain will always be Centralized because its OWNED BY JP MORGEN. This can work for people who chose to bank with JP Morgen, but that's where its use case ends. People that don't want to use or trust JP Morgan or any other bank or companies' centralized blockchain product are much more likely to use a product that is free from banking, government, and business influence (DECENTRALIZED). Also, JP Morgan can create its own blockchain (any bank or business can) and still use XRP, SOL, XLM, ETH, HBAR, and other cryptos' software. Its called interoperability. Companies with and should build their own blockchains built to there specific needs. Just as they should also turn to others that help them save time & money. I'm betting on both happening. Banks building there own blockchains actually makes it easier for them to integrate with crypto like XRP and XLM through stable coins and interoperability lol. Could XRP go to zero? Of course. My view is that it will be worth a lot more than it is today. If you think it will have no role in the future that's cool. We'll see what happens. You see that article you just posted of BNY? Did you know BNY and Ripple are collaborating? Lol https://www.bny.com/corporate/global/en/about-us/newsroom/press-release/ripple-selects-bny-to-custody-ripple-usd-reserves.html#:\~:text=Ripple%20is%20the%20leading%20provider,%2C%20exchanges%2C%20and%20moves%20value. https://thedigitalbanker.com/bny-mellon-to-hold-reserves-for-ripples-new-stablecoin/#:\~:text=These%20efforts%2C%20if%20successful%2C%20would,regulated%20tools%20for%20value%20exchange. "Bank of New York (BNY) Mellon and Ripple have a strategic, expanding collaboration centered on the integration of digital assets into traditional finance.  Key aspects of their relationship include: * **RLUSD Custody**: BNY Mellon serves as the primary reserve custodian for Ripple's enterprise-grade stablecoin, Ripple USD (RLUSD). This partnership lends credibility and regulatory alignment to RLUSD by having its cash reserves held by one of the world's largest and most trusted global custodians. * **Tokenized Deposits**: Ripple Prime, Ripple's institutional arm, is an early adopter and participant in BNY Mellon's new **tokenized deposit service**. Launched in January 2026, this service allows institutional clients to convert cash into digital tokens on a private blockchain, enabling 24/7, instant settlement for transactions like collateral and margin workflows, which is not possible with traditional banking systems that have cutoff times. "

Maconi

Ahh, I didn’t realize they had made that much progress, although I knew they were working on ZK rollups for a while. The big issue I remember was the network congestion and high fees every time a big event was occurring. Are L2s still necessary or is L1 (ETH) all that’s needed at this point?

epic_trader

>What happened to Sharding and what not? Ethereum has implemented an improved version of sharding called PeerDAS in its last hardfork, Fusaka, in December. This version is better than the original vision because it doesn't break up the blockchain into smaller parallel shards, but instead breaks up blockchain data into smaller shards, using sampling, so that validators or nodes only need to process a smaller subset of the data, providing higher scaling and a better design. >Wasn’t there also something called Plasma? Plasma never took off because we got rollups instead, which offer better security and the ability to execute smart contracts. Today we have zk rollups and optimistic rollups. >Feels like crypto stagnated after the 2017 boom. Ethereum has undergone an insane amount of improvement and transformation since 2017. Ethereum successfully moved to Proof of Stake, its base layer can process about 15x more transactions than back in 2017, and Ethereum's Layer 2's can process tens of thousands of transactions per second. Stablecoins and DeFi has taken off. And it's not possible to send ETH for less than $0.01.

wmrsion

He published his own JP Morgan stable dollar and coin on Base via ETH … he’s degrading his own products

Serenaded

It wasn't that, they transferred all my memecoins to ETH/Solana and stole the ETH/SOL (multi chain wallet, hack in this way can only be done with full access ie, the private key). Support identified pretty quick it was a wallet compromise not a malicious signing. Shit if I had known Google Sign in was completely unsafe I wouldn't have bothered. I wonder why they even offer it. Still, how they got into my browser files is a mystery to me.

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RepulsiveCheck9201

trading trading advice from reddit is crazy.... but ill give my two cents anyway I think it depends on how much research you want / have time to do, i work a full time job so i dont really have the time to keep up with the new tokens and such but still like to have some in my portfolio so i just dollar cost average in to ETH BTC and a little bit of LINK, make sure you youre using a safe platform too, shop around different ones to try, i see a lot of people recommending ndax, kraken, wealth simple and dcafun, at least for what i like to do (dca) not much of a lump sum buyer

Own_Condition_4686

Hold Bitcoin stake ETH, personally I would not touch anything else.

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discipleofvitalik

Don’t put money into anything you don’t understand, that’s what an s&p500 index is for. Do some reading, figure out what has chance of gaining major adoption and will be around 20 years from now, and if comfortable or believe in the benefit it provides humanity, then buy some and hold it long term. Then continue to educate yourself, and don’t go for the flavor of the week pushed by the marketers. I personally think Ethereum is interesting and the native asset ETH has the most potential, but you need to come to that conclusion yourself not by listening to me or anyone here.

Hitchie_Rawtin

Shitcoin echo chamber effect, CC lost sight of what it used to be around 2020 unfortunately, now it's mostly SOL memecoin grifters or BTC & ETH maxis. Pretty sure 99% of people here have zero interest in the technologies that used to be discussed here anyway, project founders used to post and comment here regularly, they don't nowadays because it's become a cesspit of WSB cunts.

discipleofvitalik

Don’t listen to this person. ETH is arguably more decentralized under PoS and has more sound fundamentals. BTC quantum resistance plans are unclear and will have a major security budget issue in coming years. DYOR.

_moneyish_

tbh if you’re purely long-term DCA, BTC + ETH is totally enough. I mainly stick to BTC and ETH for my DCA, but I’ve been using BYDFi to dip into Solana and NFTs, do some small trades, and just get a feel for the ecosystem

RSomnambulist

I don't really understand the relevance of this given that ETH has been technologically superior to BTC pretty much since it released, and it has always sat in BTCs shadow like a sad, goth kid. I say this as someone holding on to that sad kid hoping they'll one day get recognized as cooler than the quarterback.

cryptotrencher

I’ve been using SuperBoring to DCA, it’s a streaming DEX built on Superfluid so i also earn SUP as i DCA into ETH and BTC. So far, I’ve loved the user experience and it keeps buying every second so i get the best avg price every time.

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DryMyBottom

ETH staking at its ath, ETH new wallets at its ath, even the usage of the blockchain is sitting at its ATH, then why the price can’t reach its ATH again, and even smash it?

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tre6123

been thinking same lol $40k ETH by 2030 feels ambitious but Standard Chartered probably modeled some big adoption curves idk tbh i’m just holding ETH and SEI for fun while the market decides