ETH

Solid-Individual-913

at this point Im holding ETH but I think crypto is dead, scams, ponzis and absolute garbage. Maybe bitcoin survives. It may still rally the next time the fed cuts rates to a certain level. But if there is a rally to like 5k/ETH im taking the money.

jawni

>There is more value in RWAs on Ethereum than on every other chain combined; more value in DeFi on Ethereum than on every other chain combined; and more value in stablecoins on Ethereum than on every other chain combined. And this has been true for years, but it hasn't really mattered that much in a practical sense and hasn't matter from a price perspective. ETH is at roughly 50% dominance for stablecoin supply and TVL share of the industry and while a 50% share is great, it's also been at 50% for years now and obviously started much higher (essentially at 100%). Every chain it competes with has plenty of liquidity and can use those same assets to similar degrees and often with better performance. So why would this be a selling point for ETH? And what is the bull case for ETH right now?

end32urzm

While I agree, we've seen superior tech fail time and time again. Still bullish on HBAR long term but I wouldn't be surprised if ETH pumps in the next few years, sometimes that's just how it is.

oak1337

Idk how anyone can be bullish on ETH... Vitalik literally just said they have to rebuild and redesign the entire protocol over the next 3-4 years (optimistic). "Lean Ethereum", because it's too complicated, too centralized, not secure enough (quantum), can't scale, etc. Bye bye ETH, it was nice knowing ya! HBAR is the future! All roads lead to Hedera!

AdOk1101

ADA is the only serious protocol.  ETH is still playing tech catch up to ADA.  BTC was first, thats its only reason why people buy it even though its the most obsolete tech.

Exact_Release5966

Good point. Is the staking yield your main reason for choosing ETH, or is it the ecosystem as well?

Dangerous_Relief8971

honestly probably ETH just because it's the one I actually understand well enough to not panic-sell during a 70% drawdown. holding something for 10 years is more about your own conviction surviving the chart than picking the "right" coin

Funnellboi

BTC or ETH is clearly the obvious answer. However, if you want to "venture" out into lower cap coins, I would say any of RENDER, CRV or TEL would be my choices.

MinimalGravitas

Holding SOL long term will be looked back on exactly like we look back on EOS, NEO etc. BTC might be fine in 10 years, but it faces 2 long term risks, the security budget falling and the threat to old UTxOs (potentially about 30% of BTC) from quantum computers. There is no way to know when either of these will result in an attack, but there is also no sign of any meaningful consensus from the bitcoin community about what to do about either risk (other than trying to avoid talking about them). So that leaves ETH. Since the move to PoS there is no risk to the security budget, and a fairly simple analysis of addresses shows that less than 0.5% of ETH is in accounts vulnerable to the early private key hacking type of quantum attacks that threaten bitcoin. On the other hand, heads of literally the biggest financial institutions in the world are currently talking about moving the legacy financial system onto 'one common blockchain' and have been deploying tokenization projects to Ethereum. https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum/ There is more value in RWAs on Ethereum than on every other chain combined; more value in DeFi on Ethereum than on every other chain combined; and more value in stablecoins on Ethereum than on every other chain combined. The answer to your question seems pretty simple.

DrSpeckles

Yea I reckon you might be right. I doubt BTC will be worth much at all, its just a useless HODL coin and if thats what you are after youd invest elsewhere. Has to be one on which lots of other things are built. SOL or possibly ETH.

NoBrosCrypto

I’d recommend: 45% - Bitcoin 45% - ETH 10% - whatever else Bitcoin is king. Scarcity is the key. Protection against debasement. A store of value you can easily use as money. Ethereum is looking more and more like the rail infrastructure of the future, clearly where the big end of town is gravitating and has the majority share of stablecoin activity. It makes sense that this will continue with their proposed upgrades. For the rest, take your pick. Solana has proven it will take a slice of the action. Hype has had a phenomenal run. A few will survive but this next cycle will show which ones will be well and truly relegated to the zombie chain pile.

Survivaleast

Probably ETH. Have been messing around in that ecosystem for the past 10 years already. Found more use out of it than anything else, and the staking has been nice. Close 2nd BTC, but just for holding since there isn’t much to do with it otherwise. BTC is a rich person’s game at this point. To 3x or 4x from it we’d need big big numbers from the next bull run if there ever is one. Most commoners aren’t going to buy BTC worth hundreds of thousands, so it’s dependent on institutional accumulation - which seems counter to the point of its creation.

1moreApe

Ur current portfolio? 90% btc 5% xrp 5% link Im being very generous. The only other 2 coins id have are HYPE and ETH (haters, come after for holding ETH i deserve it)

unknowngloomth

Why do you ask this kind of regarded question for strangers? Nobody fucking knows, dude. As we don't know your risk tolerance and time horizon.This market is chaotic. Link is a trash coin. It's massively down from its ATHs. It hit a new ATHs back in 2018 roughly 8 years ago. The bagholder ceiling is fucking brutal. XRP print good gains. It outperformed ETH massively last cycle. As for BTC. It has a huge market cap. So expect more and more diminishing rois.

Head-Examination1429

It happens more often than you’d think. Memecoins can move independently when there’s a strong narrative, influencer attention, or a sudden wave of speculative money. They don’t always follow BTC or ETH in the short term, but they also tend to give those gains back just as quickly. That’s why I keep most of my portfolio in longer-term holdings, and while I’m waiting, I use a platform to earn passive yield instead of constantly chasing meme pumps.

Educational_Cable405

Stable to stable that size should be a couple bucks if it hits an actual stableswap pool, so the route is what got you, not the fee. $360 is right around 2.4%, which usually means one of two things: the swap widget left slippage at like 1-3% and a sandwich bot filled exactly up to whatever you left sitting there, or the aggregator hopped you through ETH on the way and you ate price impact on a volatile leg it never needed to touch. Big USDC/USDT orders on a shallow pool are basically a dinner bell for MEV.

Educational_Cable405

Whenever my ETH is deep red I close the chart and go punt on some frog coin to feel something, so honestly the answer might just be a few thousand bored versions of me doing the same thing at once.

MonsutaReipu

I'd say yeah, probably. During the bull markets between 2017-2021 I didn't have much faith in BNB going that much higher than it was. It would have been a much better hold than ETH.

ReblWithoutApplause

ETH and BTC, yes

divexpat

I just continue to dollar cost avg every month and buy more ETH. I actually have no idea how to value ETH, and I have no idea what the price will be, but I am confident that much of the world's finance will run on Ethereum in the future. When I buy ETH I feel like I am investing in the next "component" of AI before anybody else is paying any attention. How much will ETH be worth? All I can say is that it will be very useful and important.

Itchy-Acanthaceae841

Damn it. Years ago I really thought this and ETH are safe bets, guess there really is only one and that is BTC

SkyEnvironmental7746

I read about it on Flare documents and proposals. I looked into the inflation and compared it to ETH and SOL early days.

SeriousGreenA

BTC, XLM, ETH MINIMA will be everywhere as it is quantum resistant, fully descentralised and it can run from ARM to PC.

Dependent-Fig-6799

Read this June 2026 for the ETH business case. https://ethereum.org/reports/basics-for-governments-institutions.pdf

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CatPeopleBleaux

I was buying ETH at $9 and been part of it the entire ride so I'm fully aware of history. I feel like the way you talk about crypto, you are bitter about losing money on it or some shit. Most people who just sit around talking about Saylor going to jail and BTC at $10k are just haters. There are like 3 or 4 companies larger than MSTR from a holdings standpoint so yeah, some crazy shit would have to happen for BTC to hit $10k, much less sustain that level for over 6 months. But as soon as MSTR sells a couple thousand BTC, yall coming streaming out with the, "durrrrr, Saylor sold 1% of their holdings, he's def going to jail". Yall been doing this for years. My favorite part though is people thinking that MSTR doesn't have literal geniuses working there who are leveraging AI, data analytics and intel to predict markets or....at the very least, run scenarios on what happens at every level of pain is just fucking hilarious to me. They're a 35 yr old, US based company with $55B in holdings. They aren't a bunch of strung out 20 yr olds playing with monopoly money during COVID in Singapore or the Caymans.

jawni

>This sub has become an echo chamber of anti-Cardano sentiment. This sub has long been an echo chamber of positive Cardano sentiment for many years, only recently has the sentiment shifted and obviously there are valid reasons for it. >A lot of it feels driven by pro-ETH bias and people jumping on the “hate Cardano” bandwagon without actually looking at what’s being built. Cope. Any objective look at Cardano will find plenty of things to criticize. >Cardano has been quietly building, researching, testing, and iterating for years. The network has proven itself as one of the most reliable blockchains in the industry, with no major protocol-level hacks, no network-wide shutdowns, and a strong emphasis on decentralization, formal methods, and security from day one. Almost every chain has been "quietly building, researching, testing, and iterating for years", that isn't anything special, that is simply table stakes for having a chance at being a relevant blockchain. Basically no chains ever suffer protocol-level hacks. Most chains have 0 downtime, or have had negligible downtime that hasn't deterred people from usage. 100% uptime isn't a selling point, if it was, Cardano wouldn't be in this position and chains like Solana would've died out long ago instead of being one of the most used chains. >What’s interesting now is that Cardano’s security-first approach is starting to intersect with major scalability improvements. Projects like Leios aim to significantly increase base-layer throughput (10,000 tps), while Hydra adds another path for high-speed scaling. (See Doom on Cardano demo) Except we have yet to see any actual adoption. Leios is still not done and Hydra has been usable for years, yet the only usage anyone can point to is a stress test that the team did themselves. >Add Midnight bringing privacy-focused technology and selective disclosure to the ecosystem, and you start to see the foundation for enterprise-grade blockchain infrastructure that can handle real-world adoption. Midnight definitely has a more plausible pathway to viability, but like Cardano, it seems like no one wants to use it. >People can debate timelines, adoption, and execution, but pretending nothing has been built or that Cardano has no value proposition is ignoring years of progress. Criticism is healthy, but blind tribalism isn’t analysis. Just things in general have been built, but nothing *useful* has been built, which seems to indicate to me that the value proposition of Cardano is weak or non-existent. Can you tell me what use case Cardano should excel in? And can you tell me why it doesn't currently excel in that use case?

unknowngloomth

Meanwhile hyperliquid been blowing everything out water. BnB and XRP blew ETH out of water last cycle.

Bogdanoff_dump_it

My long term hodl conviction coins are BTC, ETH and SOL. No memes, low caps or shitcoins for me

Fortune_Donut7432

I'd get some ETH also. It is quite low right now, it will go way higher soon. So get some ETH, some BTC. You'll have a great return during the next bullrun.

Banker_dog

This sub has become an echo chamber of anti-Cardano sentiment. A lot of it feels driven by pro-ETH bias and people jumping on the “hate Cardano” bandwagon without actually looking at what’s being built. Cardano has been quietly building, researching, testing, and iterating for years. The network has proven itself as one of the most reliable blockchains in the industry, with no major protocol-level hacks, no network-wide shutdowns, and a strong emphasis on decentralization, formal methods, and security from day one. What’s interesting now is that Cardano’s security-first approach is starting to intersect with major scalability improvements. Projects like Leios aim to significantly increase base-layer throughput (10,000 tps), while Hydra adds another path for high-speed scaling. (See Doom on Cardano demo) Cardano offers something very few chains can combine: strong security, decentralization, reliability, and scalability. Add Midnight bringing privacy-focused technology and selective disclosure to the ecosystem, and you start to see the foundation for enterprise-grade blockchain infrastructure that can handle real-world adoption. People can debate timelines, adoption, and execution, but pretending nothing has been built or that Cardano has no value proposition is ignoring years of progress. Criticism is healthy, but blind tribalism isn’t analysis.

Aseira

BTC is the best bet long term. ETH if you like more risk. I wouldn't touch anything else.

Novel-Common-3547

Talking about future, we have to take into account a possibility of crypto space being more and more (if not fully) integrated into current financial systems. With that in mind, big financial institutions would probably go with ISO compliant cryptos. Those are mainly XRP, ADA, XLM, MIOTA, ALGO, HBAR, XDC and QNT. Will BTC be around? Well, probably yes. Being the biggest now, being considered a store of value “like gold”, it will probably be with us for many many many years. Big players like ETH and SOL have big and great communities behind them. But, I am honestly not sure if that is enough, if cryptos become integrated. I think they would, if not being ISO compliant, lose its value. Interesting, tho very speculative, is Worldcoin. Sam Altman being one of the creators and Peter Thiel being one of the primary financial backers, who knows what can happen.

varadero332

well that's why it's so difficult for everyone to make money in any sort of market, because the only way you can do it is by being contrarian. buying when everyone is panic selling requires growing a pair and trusting your strategy but it's hard. in my case, i just remind myself that if i believe in an asset, i should be happy if it drops in price because i can buy more. how would you feel if your favorite brand went on sale? so that's how i'm looking at things now. eg ETH, i know everyone is losing their mind about it but i like to look at it from the perspective that it's very cheap at the moment https://preview.redd.it/y5xut7pj3sbh1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=115e50d35193916560e593a8a1c55f91476247e5

Fun_Assumption_4609

Brother you just admitted you got rekt holding the ETH bag and now you're shilling some random alien coin like it's the second coming. The cycle never changes does it Every time I see these posts the coin is already up 500% and the only people making money are the ones who bought 3 days ago. By the time it hits my feed the dump is loading Not trying to be negative but if you really want to help people maybe share how you pick entries instead of just naming the coin. That way we can all eat instead of just being exit liquidity Still hope it works out for you though, nobody deserves to get rugged twice

Digital-Exploration

No BTC or ETH? Damn dude

CODE_HEIST

i get the simplicity of that view. BTC, ETH, and SOL are cleaner than chasing every rotation. my point is more that if someone is going outside that basket, they need a real invalidation plan before buying. otherwise the mistake already happened.

Leynnox

ETH and SOL are also alts

SpacklingCumFart

Altcoin mistakes start with buying an altcoin. There are only 3 viable plays in crypto, BTC, ETH, and SOL.

Quickprepper

I am not sure if you were looking for yields on ETH or had a preference for a specific chain. On Solana, I use JupLend, they have some good yields on Stables with decent yield. You can also check out their transparency page for info on security and [audits](https://jup.ag/lend/transparency)

MSmithRD

If ETH is gonna have a time, it's gonna be in the next 3 years. If BlackRock's tokenization prediction happens and ETH is chosen as the primary then it's ETH's best shot at exploding 10x or more. Possibly SOL as a hedge too. I'm still primarily BTC but a little ETH too...just in case

SpacklingCumFart

BTC, ETH and SOL are the only ones that are viable long term.

ReloadFilth_

yall are clowning the coins but not naming a single coin you hold? The ones that do have been fucking SOL and ETH lmao. None of y'all knows wtf you're doing here, but love to pretend you do

biggest_guru_in_town

It's a temporary deflation. I get what you mean when it burns tokens during fees when the network is busy....but that's temporary. I agree it is more used than btc by far. It has more utility than btc. Gold's primary value doesn't come from its industrial use in electronics; it comes from the fact that it is scarce, inert, and incredibly hard to produce more of. Bitcoin mirrors this by only having a 21 million cap. Ethereum's monetary policy has changed multiple times throughout its history (shifting from Proof-of-Work to Proof-of-Stake, changing issuance models). While these upgrades made ETH better, a true "store of value" requires absolute predictability. You can't have a store of value if the underlying rules can be rewritten by a dev team or community vote. So to me ETH is less trustworthy in that aspect. Bitcoin is old a dinosaur but it remains bitcpin since it's inception obeying it cycles to this day.

SkyEnvironmental7746

That’s what I expect from Flare but in the long term we’ll mature like ETH and SOL. HBAR as well. I’ll see you in 2028-2030 make sure to come back and congratulations to me. 😙

Blade_Runner_69

Like I said no hate on ETH I have a decade of experience with it and some great memories. But I just don't see where it's going at the moment. Maybe I'll be wrong on that, perhaps if the rumours are true that Vitalik wants to add a privacy layer it may become interesting again, but I have way more trust in BTC personally. But I don't wish bad luck on ETH.

Blade_Runner_69

Your wrong about supply. Bitcoin started with 0 BTC and now has about 20.02 million BTC in circulation, with a hard cap of 21 million. Around 95% of all BTC that will ever exist has already been issued. Ethereum currently has about 120.7 million ETH in circulation and no hard supply cap. since the last bull market peak (late 2021) Bitcoin, approximately +8% increase Ethereum, approximately +17% Increase That means Ethereum's circulating supply has increased by about 9 percentage points more, or roughly 2.1× as much as Bitcoin's. Since 2021: ETH supply growth is 17% vs BTC 8% (ETH inflated about twice as much) Bitcoin guarantees a maximum of 21 million coins. Ethereum doesn't, even though its current issuance is relatively low.

Dyler_Turden369

ETH supply is currently increasing at the same rate as Bitcoin. Ethereum has a clearly outline plan to sell their ETH. About $30 million this year in contrast to Saylor's $216 million dollar sale he just made. POS costs ETH stakers roughly $10 millon dollars a year to run. POW currently costs Bitcoin miners $12 Billion a year to run. POS is a VASTLY more cost efficient system. As for scalability, Bitcoin does 5 transactions per second at a cost of 35 cents per transaction. After Glamsterdam upgrade, Ethereum will be doing 75 tps at a cost of less than a cent for a simple transfer with a roadmap targeting 10,000 tps. As for shitcoins, ETH is an open source protocol and people are free to build what they want. The US dollar hasn't collapsed just because Chuck-e-Cheese issues tickets.

Blade_Runner_69

Supply increases, Eth foundation constantly dumping on holders and ruining sentiment, P.O.S is garbage compared to P.O.W, poor scalability, endless shitcoins. I started mining ETH in 2017 so Im not a hater, but I've become disillusioned by it these last few yrs now I only have a small percentage.

Difficult_Spite_774

All alt coins... Only buy BTC and ETH.

BaldGuyAce

XRP is absolute garbage. Only people who blindly follow YouTubers think that XRP has any shot. There are some alts that have a chance at succeeding, like ETH and SOL, but XRP is not one of them.

Dyler_Turden369

They don't. ETH foundation doesn't even hold $216 million worth of ETH. Their current plan is to sell 15 percent of their treasury yearly scaling down to 5 percent. At the 15 percent mark, that's $30 million per year currently. Currently, Bitcoin miners have to sell $12 Billion in Bitcoin each year just to pay their electric bill. As for Vitalik (the founder), he makes small occasional sales to fund Ethereum ecosystem projects that he believes in. Even if he suddenly decided to sell half his coins, it would still be less than the $216 million dollar sale Saylor just made.

OsChMoScH

There are companies stacking ETH just like MSTR

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Timely-Fig2030

Now is the best time to accumulate for the coming cycle. I would never enter something that has dangerous unlocks. That's why i said goat blockchains. The good ones already have unlocked everything: e.g. ETH, ICP, VET, etc. I also like SUI and the remaining unlock happens in 2030, so nothing to worry this cycle.

No_Secretary9165

Other than BTC and ETH do not stay for long term✌️

HoldCtrlW

Looks like hard ETH rejection at $1800 going lower (Want to see sub $1500)

b4basit

ETH foundation & Founder sells more than that I think.

B111yboy

Sol ETH BTC ….

Mozillarum

Cut your losses right now and move everything to BTC or ETH. That's the only move.

Dyler_Turden369

ETH doesn't have this problem.

Dyler_Turden369

ETH doesn't have this problem.

Any-Internet-7796

Dude, sell all that crap now and put it into the S&P. Memecoins are over!! Feel bad for people who do this lol. Don't let it go to zero, because it will. Alts were a short lived phenomenon, for whoever needs to hear it. Perhaps there will be one more run so that the officials who stand to benefit from this stuff could manipulate it.. But that is literally your only hope. The only crypto worth putting any money into at all would be BTC, ETH, Monero or MAYBE SOL but I doubt it at this point and I am about to sell mine The only way meme coins will ever go up again is if there is another large scale pump and dump basically, and if there is you better sell because it'll be the last one. I hold my BTC just in case, but otherwise I've completely moved into the stock market and it's way better

ARoundForEveryone

No BTC or ETH in sight. No kidding you're losing money and don't care. Alts are fine, but only as a secondary and more risky investment. You've assumed almost nothing but risk, and haven't even learned a lesson from it.

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Post is by: CaffeineComaMode and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1uoxs0u/july_1st_came_and_went_heres_whats_actually_left/ The dust is settling, out of the \~1,300 firms that operated in Europe before MiCA (up to 3,000 counting lighter national registrations), around 220 got licensed. Everyone else is winding down EU services, restricting features or sending you those important changes to your account emails. So instead of another thread arguing whether MiCA is good or bad, here's a practical map of what still works, by use case. Spot trading: Kraken, Coinbase, OKX, Bitstamp, Bitvavo, and Bitpanda all made it through. Liquidity on the majors is fine, and OKX and Coinbase have been running aggressive migration offers to absorb users from platforms that didn't make the cut. If you're just buying and holding majors, you've lost basically nothing. Derivatives and leverage: This is where it gets thin, MiCA doesn't cover derivatives - that's MiFID II, a separate license - and only a handful of platforms hold both, Kraken and Gemini among them. Retail leverage is capped at 2x. If you're a serious leverage trader, the honest answer is the regulated EU market no longer serves you. And sadly that's a policy choice Brussels made intentionally, not something any platform can fix. Earning yield and borrowing: The category MiCA hit hardest indirectly, since a lot of earn programs died with their platforms. What's left: Nexo came through with its MiCAR license and kept the full earn/borrow suite running - interest on idle crypto, credit lines against BTC/ETH without selling - and YouHodler cleared licensing on the lending side as well. If your strategy involves your crypto working for you rather than sitting still, this is now a two-or-three-platform conversation instead of a ten-platform one. Stablecoins: USDT is off regulated EU venues entirely - Tether refused MiCA's reserve requirements and walked. USDC and EURC inherited the market by default. If you're still holding USDT on a licensed exchange, most have moved it to sell-only; swap to USDC via a DEX if you want to keep stables on regulated rails. Self-custody: Completely untouched. MiCA regulates service providers, not you. Ledger, MetaMask, your own keys - all of it stays exactly as it was, and holding or trading anything peer-to-peer remains fully legal. If the shrinking regulated menu annoys you, this is the one exit no rulebook touches (at least for now). The overall picture: if your needs are simple, you're fine, arguably better protected than before. If your needs are sophisticated - leverage, exotic tokens, yield strategies - the menu shrank hard, and the platforms that did the compliance work early are inheriting everything. Consolidate accordingly and don't be the person still sitting on an unlicensed platform when the withdrawal queues get long. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Realistic_Fee_00001

You didn't get it. The same coins were BCH and BTC before the fork. Big blockers received small blockers coins and small blockers received Big Blockers coins. It's just your viewpoint. >how is BCH any different or better than BTG or BSV? I mean this question can only come from total ignorance. BCH is a working scaling Bitcoin with privacy, smart contracts, the fastest syncing node per MB and a lively community. BCH could manage the traffic of BTC, ETH and Doge together without any problem. >You are not even in line with reality any more while BTC is 1 TRILLION + , BCH is still under 5 billions. So what? BTC is worth more, so are military stocks worth more than solar stocks. I still rather invest in p2p cash than a captured controlled opposition. >This means that BTC OGs can spend a few billions each and every cycle to hinder BCH from ever seeing the light Yes, but BTC are peanuts against the dollar system. These guys can print trillions out of thin air. If Bitcoin as p2p cash system cannot win against this it was doomed from the beginning. Fortunately BCH does not need a higher price than BTC to win, it just needs people to use it.

CaffeineComaMode

Not sure about ETH, seeing how it keeps bleeding...

SAULucion

Ripple and anything ripple adjacent is a scam. Just warning you. Invest in ETH tard

SkyEnvironmental7746

I don’t really like ETH. I think FLR is ten times better investment than ETH. We will know by 2028-2029

SAULucion

If you have this much money you just need to invest in ETH and chill. Maybe add a couple of real coins like Morpho

cc99v

Personally cannot see how you’re gonna be in profit in 4 years on these. But clearly you’re very rich and losing 200k is nothing. Out of interest what made you choose these and not BTC, ETH, SOL, HYPE.

MrStarrrr

Finally did this a few years ago and exchanged all for the king and ETH. I’m regretting not dumping ETH for BTC at the time too. Meh.

FYATWB

This post is a nice reminder that nearly everyone should be holding 90%/95% BTC and 5%/10% ETH It's so sad to see people getting duped by scammers on youtube into buying garbage. Shitcoins like xrp may never recover, there are too many old bag holders waiting to dump on you.

A1JX52rentner

Remindme! 5 years "I only have found 4 alts which aren't massively down from their ATHs so far. holy cow. even ETH, SOL, XRP are massively down. But they still have a chance to overcome the overhead resistance because some of them have enterprises, ETFS money pouring in.. mid and low market caps on the other hand, will have a hard time overcoming the bagholder ceiling problem."

Artem1131

What’s are your thoughts on ETH for today?

ryamecoo

That's probably the real test. The upgrades sound good on paper, but doing it without breaking existing apps/users is what makes ETH upgrades so slow and political

Educational_Cable405

Kraken can't do anything here, they already broadcast it and that ETH left custody the second it confirmed. So ignore the "contact support" advice, this isn't a reversible transfer. The only thing that decides your outcome is whether that address actually has code on mainnet or is just an empty spot the X Layer deployer happens to control. If it traces back to OKX's deployer you might have a shot emailing them, if it was some throwaway you're mostly talking to a wall.

ryamecoo

I think it's less "changing for the sake of changing" and more protocol maintenance at this point. think of it as blockchain age like software, not like gold. if ETH stops upgrading, the tech debt eventually wins

IndustryMaximum83

So Aptos is a “major” blockchain? Compared to what, the memecoins and shitcoins? Theres BTC, ETH, XMR, and everything else, and the everything else has been a carousel of promises, pump-and-dumps, manufactured hype, and failure for the last decade or so.

Ms_TitAdorable

BTC and ETH for sure

Prior_Parsley3960

**Headline:** Vitalik Buterin has unveiled **"Lean Ethereum,"** a 3–4 year roadmap to rebuild much of Ethereum's core infrastructure, calling it the network's biggest overhaul since the Merge. **Why it matters:** The plan aims to make Ethereum faster, more scalable, more private, and resistant to future quantum computing threats—while minimizing disruption to existing applications. * **A gradual rebuild:** Rather than one massive upgrade, Lean Ethereum is a series of protocol changes rolling out over several years, replacing many core components while maintaining compatibility with today's ecosystem. * **Key upgrades:** Planned improvements include **recursive STARK verification**, **quantum-resistant cryptography**, faster transaction finality, multidimensional gas pricing, a more scalable state model, and a potential long-term transition beyond the current Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). * **Privacy becomes core infrastructure:** Buterin says privacy should be built directly into Ethereum's protocol instead of relying primarily on application-layer solutions. * **Scalability vision:** Ethereum could eventually separate "traditional" state from newer, highly scalable storage models, allowing applications like tokens and NFTs to scale far beyond today's limits while preserving compatibility. * **Challenging backdrop:** The roadmap comes as the Ethereum Foundation cuts spending and staff, while ETH remains well below its 2025 highs amid broader weakness in crypto markets. **Bottom line:** Lean Ethereum is an ambitious technical vision rather than an immediate upgrade. If successfully executed, it could significantly modernize Ethereum's architecture and extend its competitiveness for the next decade—but the changes will take years to implement and carry meaningful execution risk.

MotanulScotishFold

Bitcoin is the only that survived for 17 years, the other don't have the performance of Bitcoin until proven opposite. Ethereum is since 2017 and survived, it's 2nd in the top, yet it does not surpass BTC in dominance and depend to a team of people. If Vitalik ever happened something to him, we don't know what happens to ETH afterwards. Bitcoin, nobody knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto and nobody claim to be the creator of it.

YoungMoose71

Any Ethereum upgrade is years in the process before it goes live on main net. So id assume any impacts of an upgrade are already priced in before it goes live, unless the upgrade goes poorly. However long term these upgrades are going to improve throughput, security, and decentralization among other factors which have major impacts on the future of Ethereum. So I wouldnt expect immediate price changes but these upgrades may enable a long term growth in ETH the asset if Ethereum grows.

flappysack-

Bitcoin and maybe ETH will do well, shitcoins will rotate and churn and eventually each will vanish.

Budget-Award-9951

Funny how everyone wanted ETH at $4k but calls it dead at $1.5k. Fear usually creates the best entries... if the thesis hasn't changed.

neo-caridina

Sooooo CC, XLM, ETH, LINK, ONDO, TEMPO, or what?

BakesaleAtSyrinx

I've got most of my ETH staked, but have a couple staged with limit sales so I can take profits when the price rises

Romanizer

Could be interesting for BTC, but ETH? Why?

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Post is by: AIautoagent1 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1uo7xpm/cbdcs_are_moving_from_theory_to_reality_while_the/ The most interesting monetary story right now isn’t an ETF or halving – it’s that CBDCs are quietly moving from white papers to actual infrastructure while the US just politically froze its own “digital dollar” experiment. We’ve now got a pretty clear split: China’s e-CNY is live at scale, the Bahamas, Nigeria, Jamaica and a few others already have retail CBDCs in production, and the Eurozone plus a cluster of EMs (Brazil, India, etc.) are deep in pilots and design phases. The Atlantic Council’s tracker shows over 130 countries exploring CBDCs, and the IMF/WEF crowd is openly discussing cross-border CBDC interoperability as a future “upgrade” to the global monetary system. Meanwhile, the US President literally signed an executive order banning a US CBDC for now – which doesn’t stop the Fed from building FedNow rails and experimenting in the background, but it does signal political resistance to a fully-fledged “Digital Dollar.” For Bitcoin and crypto, I don’t see CBDCs as direct competitors – they’re more like a confirmation that the fiat game is going fully digital and fully surveilled. A CBDC is just the same debasing unit with better policy levers: instant negative rates, expiring money, more targeted capital controls. At the same time, de‑dollarization is creeping forward (BRICS, bilateral trade in local currencies, talk of CBDC-based cross-border settlement). If the dollar’s network effect erodes at the margin, I want exposure to assets that sit outside any single state’s liability structure: BTC as the reserve asset, some ETH and quality infra, plus regulated access to the “inside” system via public markets. Given where this is heading, self-custody is non-negotiable for me. With CBDCs accelerating, I keep everything off exchanges in self-custody on a Ledger — the whole point of crypto is the exit: https://shop.ledger.com/?r=earning-hq&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cbdc&utm_content=ledger and I only use centralized venues for liquidity and fiat on/off-ramps. For anyone just getting positioned, Coinbase is the most compliant US ramp: https://coinbase.com/join/earning-hq?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cbdc&utm_content=coinbase Curious how others here are pricing CBDC risk: Are you changing your allocation (more BTC vs alts), your custody setup, or your jurisdictional exposure as these projects move from pilot to live? Ledger and Coinbase links are affiliate links. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

RickSanchez67

yeah dont worry, not going to do anything crazy before I am 100% sure and I have everything tested out. \- Binance : it works and I have managed to deposit USDT and swaped it for USDC before they close on europe on July 1th. Now that they closed on europe, not sure it is still possible, and even if it is possible I might have problems selling the USDC at the end because normally they said all trades are closed for europeans ? \- Kraken : just looked, and USDT is not available for deposit on my side, only USDC \- [Crypto.com](http://Crypto.com) : allows deposit on USDT and exchange to EUR, unfortunately the exchange does not seem to have a lot of liquidity (around 10k daily volume on USDT/EUR) so I might have issue exchanging everything What you suggest is I do two steps ? First bridge the USDT from Tron to ETH and then after swap the USDT to USDC ? do you have a service with very good reputation to do that ?

unknowngloomth

XRP out performed ETH last cycle. It's a good coin to make money off if you sell heavily during an euphoric bull run.

BrokenHefaistos

Offcoure it is, BTC drives nothing but 'investuuuhrr burps' ETH drives a whole trading game although it could do more, the game is fun and educative, the gains are real. All BTC does is hang around on the coach like an OG on hopium.

North-Exchange5899

BTC for store of value, ETH for smart contract infrastructure

tek3k

Your logic: "Bitcoin is number one only ...only bc it weas first." Ford is the best car bc it was first AOL is the best email bc it was first Yahoo is the best search bc it was first Napster is the best music bc it was first MySpace is the best social media bc it was first Blackberry is the best phone bc it was first "Every crypto is fundamentally the same..." LUNA BTC ETH XMR USDC Oh yeah. I see your point. /s

Honest-Mess-812

Bitcoin and maybe ETH. Most shitcoins will be gone. Same like most popular websites from 2000s are gone now.

HoldCtrlW

Looking to retest $1500 for ETH. Just waiting for a pullback

borakhot

ETH will be safe. They have solid reasercheras and devs to make network post quantum safe. I am not sure about other...

DogStunning4845

Everything is spinning on the ETH right now, eth to 4500! 

Active-Rope9301

BTC/ETH/SOL. Possibly HYPE. I’d like to say TAO/Bittensor but I dunno, the AI space is crowded.

HoldCtrlW

Looks like ETH rsi is overbought Expecting a pull back to $1500