ETH

No_Success_4269

BTC, ETH, LTC in that order. I still have the history on Coinbase and I sometimes look at that history and those prices. August 2017.

c0horst

Bitcoin, 2020. I was never into purchasing crypto, when it was profitable to mine at home I'd run Nicehash to mine ETH and get paid in BTC. I then started mining ETH directly, as well as other mineable coins like RVN as I expanded my mining rig. When ETH went proof of stake I sold all crypto and all GPUs and never looked back. ETH killed my enthusiasm for crypto, lol.

ShinkaRoam

Yeah, I only invest in ETH

synthwave_man

SOL will come back, but probably won't outperform ETH again. Pump_Fun and its memes have ruined crypto, that's why i don't like SOL.

blue-chips

Is the $50 balance in an ERC-20 token? If so, you may not have the right tokens to pay gas fees to make a transfer. Looks like you're using the OKX Wallet. You can apparently pay gas fees on with ETH, USDT, USDC, or USDG (in addition to ETH). [https://web3.okx.com/help/gas-fees-faq](https://web3.okx.com/help/gas-fees-faq)

master-beast-72

the honest answer requires separating the price question from the fundamental question **fundamentals**: Cardano has working smart contracts (Plutus/Aiken), a functioning DeFi ecosystem, and solid academic research underpinning its design. it's not vaporware. but by most on-chain metrics — TVL, transaction volume, developer activity, protocol revenue — it significantly lags Ethereum and even several smaller L1s like Solana or Avalanche. the eUTXO model is technically interesting but created friction for DeFi composability that the ecosystem has been working around **price**: ADA has historically been one of the most narrative-driven assets in crypto. it rallies hard when Hoskinson announces development milestones and when retail sentiment turns bullish on "undervalued L1s." it's also had severe drawdowns — peak to current is down 90%+ from 2021 highs **who's buying ADA**: largely existing holders averaging down, retail looking for a "cheap" alternative to ETH, and people who believe Cardano's peer-reviewed approach will eventually generate more meaningful adoption **the bear case**: Cardano has been building toward "the next phase" for years and ecosystem growth has been slow relative to competitors. there's an opportunity cost — that capital could be in faster-growing ecosystems it's not obviously worth buying or avoiding — that depends heavily on your thesis and risk tolerance

CrossPuffs

ETH. It was about the same price then as it is now.

Timely-Fig2030

ETH. I wish we had the old times back and no dilution, especially no memecoin assholes 😭

RandomPlayerCSGO

I don't trust anything like that, I only trust yield for ETH staking in its own network or for lending in Aave, both are smaller yields than 14%

Sookkhuii

just dcaing every BTC low and sometimes maybe ETH and when bull is really coming buy more major alts like SOL

thinkingperson

The last time I tried a project that offered 14% APY in ETH and BTC, I got a 55% haircut within six months 😅

synthwave_man

Just buy ETH, wait for a 2x, and sell. That's it. The times to make 10x, 100x or 500x in crypto are long gone. In 2018-2021 you could have made those gains easily from buying altcoins in the bear and holding them until the peak of the bull. I miss the old days.

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TheSquattingSlav_21

This is what most people don’t understand. Once user adoption comes in (and it WILL, although a bit more institutionalized than we may have wanted..) smart contracts functionality is going to go crazy and ETH will hit spectacular pumps. Still a bunch of years away though, I can wait :)

master-beast-72

The core concept is solid — price-triggered automations fill a real gap for people who don't want to watch charts all day. A few honest thoughts: The fixed percentage trigger (5% dip, 8% surge) is the weakest part of the idea. In a high-volatility regime, those levels get hit constantly and your automations fire too often. In a low-vol sideways market, nothing triggers at all. Volatility-adjusted thresholds — anchoring to something like ATR rather than absolute percentage — would make the triggers much more meaningful across different market conditions. The "trigger → action" model is only as useful as the action types you support. If the only action is a notification, it's a slightly nicer alert app. If you can integrate with exchange APIs to actually execute limit orders or DCA buys on trigger, that's a meaningfully different tool. What actions does it support right now? The Bitcoin-only scope is either a feature or a limitation depending on your target user. For BTC-only holders it's clean. For anyone running a multi-asset book, they'd want the same logic applied to ETH, SOL, etc. without needing separate tools. Two things that would immediately improve it: (1) backtesting view so users can see how their rule would have fired historically, and (2) a way to set cooldown periods so a 5% dip doesn't trigger 8 times during a single crash. What's the data source for the price feed?

master-beast-72

Started with Bitcoin and it did change how I think about investing, though maybe not in the direction you'd expect. The main shift was realizing that volatility isn't inherently bad if your time horizon is long enough and your position sizing accounts for it. Traditional finance wisdom says you should reduce risk as a position grows, but Bitcoin's actual return profile punished people who sold at the "rational" exit points repeatedly. It taught me to think more carefully about why I'm holding something and whether the thesis has changed, rather than selling because a number felt high. It also recalibrated my baseline for what "a big move" means. A 40% drawdown in crypto is a rough month; in equities it's a generational crisis. After spending time in this market you stop treating normal equity volatility as scary, which has been useful. The branching out happened when I wanted to balance the crypto concentration with something that grows more predictably. Index funds ended up being the vehicle for that — not because I lost faith in the crypto thesis, but because a portfolio with 80% in one highly correlated asset class isn't great risk management regardless of what the asset is. So for me it was: Bitcoin → understand asymmetric bets → ETH and alts → realize concentration risk → build out the rest of the portfolio to stabilize it. Bitcoin is still a meaningful position but it's not the only piece.

master-beast-72

The Saylor comparison is apt but there's one structural difference that makes the ETH version more interesting from a network perspective: if Bitmine stakes that ETH, they're not just a price-concentrated holder, they become a significant validator. 5% of staked ETH is meaningful. Current staking participation is around 27-28% of supply, so 5% of total supply translates to roughly 18% of the staking pool if they stake it all. That's in range to start influencing things like block proposal rates and MEV extraction patterns. It doesn't give them consensus finality power (you need 33%+ to threaten liveness), but it's enough to matter. The no-debt point from r/euro347 is the key variable. MSTR's vulnerability isn't the BTC concentration, it's the convertible note structure — if BTC craters, they can't service debt and have to sell into a falling market. Bitmine without debt just sits through a drawdown. The house of cards analogy only applies if there's leverage behind the position. The real question is what they actually do with the ETH. Buy and hold on the balance sheet is one thing. Stake it, run validators, and participate in MEV supply chains is a fundamentally different entity.

master-beast-72

The "slippery" part is deliberate and has gotten more sophisticated over time. Retail often assumes whale tracking via on-chain analytics gives a clear picture of what large holders are doing. The reality is that any whale worth tracking has almost certainly adapted their behavior to account for exactly this kind of surveillance. **How sophisticated whales obscure their positions**: 1. **Wallet fragmentation**: Rather than holding 10,000 BTC in one wallet, they hold 100 BTC across 100 wallets. Any individual wallet looks like a mid-sized holder. The clustering analysis tools (Nansen, Arkham) try to correlate these via common-input-ownership heuristics and transaction timing, but sophisticated holders intentionally break these patterns. 2. **OTC desks**: Major moves often don't happen on-chain at all. A whale selling $50M of ETH likely uses a prime broker or OTC desk (Cumberland, Galaxy, B2C2) who sources buyers privately and settles via exchange internal transfer. Whale Alert never sees it. 3. **Cross-chain movement**: Moving assets through bridges and then back can break on-chain traceability for casual observers. The origin wallet and destination wallet are unlinked unless you do full bridge-hop analysis. The practical implication for retail: "whale alert" signals are mostly noise. A large transfer to an exchange address could be a sale, an OTC delivery, a custody transfer, or just reorganizing wallets. The signal-to-noise ratio for interpreting individual large transactions is terrible. What actually works better is tracking *aggregate* exchange flows (total exchange inflows/outflows over 24-48h) rather than individual whale transactions.

seanmg

That's literally impossible unless you invested in trash coins. Bitcoin is up 7x in that time, and ETH is up 12x in that time.

seanmg

$.90 for a transaction is not super cheap and fundamentally limits the type of products that can be developed on ETH as an L1.

Cold_Entertainer_851

That's an interesting perspective. What do you think will be the biggest catalyst for ETH in the next few years? Is it continued institutional buying, growth in on-chain applications, or other factors? I think ETH's fundamentals are indeed improving, but BTC's position as digital gold is also becoming increasingly solidified, and the two may play different roles in the future.

master-beast-72

Worth understanding what's actually happening on-chain here, because it illustrates a few things simultaneously. When a CEX announces shutdown, you see two types of on-chain movement: legitimate user withdrawals (users pulling their ETH to self-custody) and exchange consolidation (the exchange moving funds from multiple hot wallets into fewer addresses as they wind down operations). Both show up as large ETH outflows from exchange-associated addresses. The surge in withdrawals during a wind-down notice is actually the healthy response — it means users are reacting to information and pulling funds while withdrawal processing is still running normally. The dangerous scenario is when exchange wallets stop moving funds while users are still trying to withdraw (the FTX pattern: withdrawal processing froze while the exchange was still accepting deposits). A few practical things to check if you or anyone you know still has ETH on BitMart: - Are withdrawals processing at normal speed or are there delays/queues forming? Delays are the first warning sign. - Is the withdrawal minimum being raised or are certain assets suddenly "under maintenance"? Classic early-stage restriction signs. - What's the stated final withdrawal date? Most regulated wind-downs give 30-90 days. The on-chain data showing large ETH outflows from BitMart's known wallets is actually reassuring in this case — it means the funds are moving and users who requested withdrawals are getting them. The exchanges that silently fail are the ones where nothing moves. Not your keys at any point means this stress doesn't exist.

master-beast-72

The mark price problem on tokenized stock perps is a systemic issue that doesn't get enough attention when these products are launched. On crypto-native perp pairs (BTC/USDT, ETH/USDT), mark price is aggregated from multiple high-liquidity spot markets with tight spreads. Manipulation is expensive because you'd have to move price on Binance, Coinbase, and several others simultaneously. On tokenized stock perps — SK Hynix, Tesla, Apple, etc. — the underlying reference price often comes from one or two sources with thin liquidity outside of US market hours. If the feed from those sources has a bad tick, gets delayed, or the underlying stock moves sharply on news that's hard to arbitrage back quickly, the mark price diverges from fair value. Positions that were healthy at the "real" price get liquidated at the distorted price. The "exchange covers losses" response is the right call and is essentially what the insurance fund exists for. What matters is whether they cover the full delta between the liquidation price and the fair price at time of liquidation, not just a partial refund. This should prompt exchanges to review their mark price methodology for tokenized equity perps more carefully. Options: wider confidence bands before liquidation triggers on illiquid pairs, mandatory funding rate limits that force position deleveraging before reaching liquidation, or just being conservative about which stock tokens they list and in what leverage. Worth watching whether TradeXYZ publishes a post-mortem on how the mark price diverged — the mechanism matters for evaluating whether they've fixed the underlying issue or just plugged this specific hole.

master-beast-72

The mark price problem on tokenized stock perps is a systemic issue that doesn't get enough attention when these products are launched. On crypto-native perp pairs (BTC/USDT, ETH/USDT), mark price is aggregated from multiple high-liquidity spot markets with tight spreads. Manipulation is expensive because you'd have to move price on Binance, Coinbase, and several others simultaneously. On tokenized stock perps — SK Hynix, Tesla, Apple, etc. — the underlying reference price often comes from one or two sources with thin liquidity outside of US market hours. If the feed from those sources has a bad tick, gets delayed, or the underlying stock moves sharply on news that's hard to arbitrage back quickly, the mark price diverges from fair value. Positions that were healthy at the "real" price get liquidated at the distorted price. The "exchange covers losses" response is the right call and is essentially what the insurance fund exists for. What matters is whether they cover the full delta between the liquidation price and the fair price at time of liquidation, not just a partial refund. This should prompt exchanges to review their mark price methodology for tokenized equity perps more carefully. Options: wider confidence bands before liquidation triggers on illiquid pairs, mandatory funding rate limits that force position deleveraging before reaching liquidation, or just being conservative about which stock tokens they list and in what leverage. Worth watching whether TradeXYZ publishes a post-mortem on how the mark price diverged — the mechanism matters for evaluating whether they've fixed the underlying issue or just plugged this specific hole.

TheMadDog86

If you want that money to grow, dont buy BTC. At most it can 2x. In an extreme shift, 3x. ETH is much the same. Might 2 or 3x, moonshot of hitting a 5x return. Buy Solana. Its the only one that has the cap where you can still 5x-10x your return.

MushrooGuy

Ooor stick with me... ETH is a legacy chain and all the promises that were made on ETH are going elsewhere.. https://preview.redd.it/a79y0b7pf1gh1.jpeg?width=2101&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=053bb88415f1b520ac95b5ae7e1c157addcffdf6

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b1mm3rl1f3

Hayes bought $6M worth of ETH, and Tom Lee bought $19M. At some point you have to stop trying to pick the perfect entry because you could end up waiting forever

borakhot

trading is too much effort. dca into ETH. wait for 3-5x recovery. easy money a lot of free time.

SM-

ETH is going to front run the bull market, that thing wants to fucking fly. It seems like everyone and their nan is loading up.

mwilliam1263

For a simple swap, Trust Wallet works well, but don't swap directly in the wallet without comparing rates. Connect it to a reputable DEX aggregator like 1inch or Matcha to get better pricing and lower slippage. Also, make sure you have enough native gas tokens (ETH, BNB, etc.) on the same network before swapping.

PatientReasonable348

Now we wait for him to bullpost about ETH. That's when he sells the whole stack

doyzer9

Start with something simple: put **$200** on **Kraken** and watch it for 12 months. A beginner‑friendly allocation might look like: * **50% BTC** * **20% ETH** * **15% SOL** * **10% XRP** * **5% KAS** All crypto lives on blockchains and requires **private keys** to move. On an exchange, the platform holds the keys. With **self‑custody**, you hold the keys yourself, usually stored as a **24‑word seed phrase**. Anyone who gets your seed phrase can take your crypto, so beginners are often safer starting on a top‑tier exchange like Kraken or Kraken Pro. Learn the basics early: * Blockchain fees * Exchange fees * Spreads * Stop loss orders * Self custody wallets * Seed phrases * Passphrases * Hardware wallets, Ledger and Trezor are well known hardware wallet brands. Avoid **hot, web and extension wallets**. Assume most people online want to scam you, hack you, or trick you into giving up your seed phrase. **NEVER** enter a seed phrase online or record electronically as text or image.... **NEVER**! Always use official websites, double check URLs, and be extremely careful with anything you download. Good internet security software is strongly recommended. Be ready for **50 percent or more price swings**. And be aware that simply HODLing right now has a higher chance of losing money, although nobody knows what the market will look like in a year. **DO NOT INVEST MORE THAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE!!!!**

Slavastey

Welcome to crypto! Here's the safe way to do this: 1. **Use a reputable DEX**: Uniswap or 1inch are the most trusted for ETH swaps 2. **Connect your Trust Wallet** directly to the DEX (not through any "helper" site) 3. **Start small**: Swap $100 first to test, then do the rest 4. **Check gas fees**: Sometimes they're higher than the swap itself ⚠️ **IMPORTANT**: Never give anyone your seed phrase. If your "friend" asks for it, it's a scam. If someone offers to "help you swap" by taking control of your wallet, it's a scam. Do it yourself through Uniswap's official site. It's safer and you'll learn how DeFi works. Good luck! 🔐

ChicksX

At this point any big-name buy gets treated like a signal, then the market immediately humbles everyone. I’d rather watch what ETH does over the next few weeks than react to one whale headline.

Far-Dependent713

DCA into ETH/BTC, nibbling at some other alts.

PuzzleheadedBell4057

DCA monthly on the 15th into BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, HYPE, LINK, TAO, ZEC and RENDER $100 ea. Have a round-up on my checking account that I empty monthly to fund Doge - about $20-$30/month.

BrokenHefaistos

ETH, SOL, LINK, AVAX and call me stupid PEPE 🐸 fren

Mak_ibo

They provided a mix of mining pool and crypto trading/lending platform. So many miners would actually just lend their BTC, ETH and whatever to poolin for interest. Was deemed okish as it was the biggest mining platform at the time, until pan gambled too much with borrowed money and lost lots of customer funds in the process ..

HoldCtrlW

Easy short here on ETH. Target $1750

Icy_Peak5368

Agree regarding ETH and things it will beark lh and change its characters and move towards bull move

Sufficient_Fuel5269

I believe that BTC and ETH still have to retest lower prices, we still have an opportunity to buy back at good prices... although there is not much liquidity!

GodBlessPigs

Bear market is over when ETH closes above 2k again.

CipherScarlatti

If it's ETH it's at 1944. Maybe you should sell now and be happy with your current result than fantasize about $3000 or higher.

hiimtashy

ADA, ETH and most alt coins are done man. People are working out shit coins are really to make the insiders rich. Bitcoin or nothing at this point. Not advice.

b1mm3rl1f3

ETH under $2k and bros are waiting for even lower. NGMI

IArtificialRobotI

Yup, I love how Cardano makes it so easy to stake. I think it has issues with its governance system but they are growing pains. We are also entering an economy that will be driven by AI agents pretty soon. Privacy will be huge and Cardano is all over that already. You could say the NIGHT token is a partner chain but it interoperates with the cardano chain so its still bullish for Ada if NIGHT takes off which it will. Also ETH is finally backtracking and is going with a UTXO Model.Cardano already has this. See cardano was built with all the shortcomings of ETH in mind already. ETH is so ahead of Cardano they say LOL its not even close. AI will humble all of these other chains that build fast and wait for things to break

ubermensch1001

With the current prices, you could easily make some swing trades on it for easy profits. Just keep in mind, all alts have been absolutely decimated this year and collectively dead little to nothing in 2024 and 2025. ETH for instance is at the same price as it was in the summer of 2023.

b1mm3rl1f3

Are you watching ETH/BTC? because it just broke out. ETH also refused to make new lows in the 2022 bear market and was extremely resilient to BTC as it continued to drop. Even if BTC capitulates in Q4, ETH might not follow. It will also outperform BTC over the coming years due to macro risk turning for the first time since 2020.

Traditional_Most105

I agree with you. But many posts and comments i read in this sub are from people who own btc and eth and they always advice on btc and eth which theres nothing wrong with it. But they also trash talk alts they might never heard or research about or alts in general without any explanation. If you're gonna tell me to buy BTC and ETH because they are safer and alts are more volatile, i will take it as an opinion. But trash talking alts people talk about or ask about without giving facts on why they believe they are trash then why even comment? Give facts and a proper answer based on facts on why certain alts mentioned in this sub are trash and ill reconsider my position on them. Not all are trash. Yes they are more volatile, yes they mostly depend on how btc will perform. But do you know what might happen for sure? In the end its gambling for all of us. Just some bet on btc and eth based on past performances which is a safe gamble. Others bet on other coins that they might have researched a lot about or not researched at all. Its gambling with a more safe approach, an almost safe approach and a not safe approach at all. Cause who knows if tomorrow btc might go to 0 or if alts might gain more attention or if something else entirwly happens? Nobody.. So we are all speculating. But when you comment on why you believe something is trash or why something is good you could at least give an explanation with facts not a trash or not answer...

Xiximaro

There's not much to explain... The alt fans use, use case logic and especulative future adoption relying in the future. The rest that only focus on BTC and ETH don't explain anything because there isn't nothing to explain either... Since they rely on past events to not choose anything besides BTC and ETH, their ALT armor hás taken so much hits that there isn't really anything left that will repair it. Both aren't really wrong or right. It just that both bet into the future with different perspectives, one based on the past events (BTC/ETH) another based on future events like adoption (Alts).

martinkarolev

spent years to figure out bag holding is dead and that's why I like what these guys do they actively rotate among alts every week and have been outperforming BTC and ETH since 2020 with annual return of 106% [https://research.fich.ai/p/crypto-strategy-utility-protocols](https://research.fich.ai/p/crypto-strategy-utility-protocols)

martinkarolev

buying alts is tricky but this is where the big money in crypto is - these guys have a long only strategy that actively rotates among alts every week and has been outperforming BTC and ETH since 2020 [https://research.fich.ai/p/crypto-strategy-utility-protocols](https://research.fich.ai/p/crypto-strategy-utility-protocols)

nails4coffee

I would hold LTC, ETH and XMR. And you can’t talk me out of it.

Illustrious-Boss9356

I'm pretty sure one of the smart contract programmable money L1's will have a place. I'd place the odds at: ETH- 25% BNB- 5% SOL- 5% TRX- 5% ADA- 2% Other New Crypto not in existence today- 25% Other New Crypto not in existence today built by the US Gov or the Fed Reserve in partnership with all the major banks and global payment infrastructure entities like IMF, Bank of Settlements, etc. - 33%

Traditional_Most105

You basically say that fans of alts are not intelligent? While the one who did not comprehend my question was a dude mentioning BTC and ETH plus preferring to light his money on fire rather than buying the 4 coins i mentioned which i never suggested them as an advice, just as an answer to my own post. I prefer the alt coin fans. The rest are absolute on their opinion and they don't even explain why... They just spread their comments about BTC and ETH like a virus.

Traditional_Most105

1. Nobody told you to buy them. 2. Already mentioned that BTC and ETH are excluded 3. Its obviously a question for people who like alts. I swear most people read 3 to 5 words from a question/post here and just comment anything else irrelevant to the question asked...

Reach_Beyond

I’d rather light my money on fire than buy any of the alts you listed. I’d buy and do own significant BTC, ETH. All others (maybe SOL or I’d have to research XRP) I’d just hold USDC.

unknowngloomth

Hahaha KASPA the BTC and ETH "killer" 😂 86 down from its ATHs brutal!! https://preview.redd.it/ehphmq6mzgfh1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=3211db20fbba7e468f971a7194805437b5f3eb2b

Sayntjefe

ETH. Most stable, most utility.

50sat

There will always be a few of these, at least as long as infrastructure models for trad-fi still exist. Savvy investors will, perhaps more with crypto than with traditional equities, continue to index themselves. Unlike trying to match index PA you can group them and earn interim yields as well. https://ibb.co/v4qtJ4cd Depending on what you want to build around it. I accept some limitations to run a tax model on the side that converts yields atomically to ETH and stores them in a communal buyback contract. In this way the tokenized index gets the PA sharing action of an indexed instrument, with an additional risk/reward layer (can't ignore it) that earns yield without speculating on re-composition. Depending on your arrangements (I put some locks right now) the ability to manage to news and rapid changes in defi markets is also a plus. IMO crypto, and specifically smart chains, offer so much more usability over a traditional index ETF that it's worth the extra management even with relatively small bags. I think that in the current markets, crypto index ETFs are ok for a tradfi investor who has sufficient money to pay management fees while they sit on idle capital. More active investors will move as the space evolves and offers better opportunities.

Suitable_Acadia_190

this lines up with what the ETH structure is showing too. price pulled back right into the retest zone of a level that already broke out, not fresh weakness, just the market giving the move back before continuing if this were actually crypto specific you'd expect alts leading the selloff since they're usually first to break on bad news. instead BTC's holding up and dominance is climbing, which is exactly the signature of risk-off money leaving everything at once rather than crypto getting hit on its own

CatPeopleBleaux

Ill bring back an old school one for yall OGs. CORE/CVault Finance/Delta. While they have definitely pissed off all the people who gave them a $100M treasury(value during last bull run, now around $60M), HYPE took most of their ideas and built their platform, along with 100s of forks from others. The difference though is the locked liquidity and mechanisms to create value for the users, devs and platform. Delta flopped bc of the very reason you mentioned. They broke Uniswaps trade algo and Hayden Adams booted them from the platform, showing they are centralized at their core also.  The rub here is they haven't been heard from in years. Theyll trade the treasury every once in a while but nothing on TG. I was an OG investor in CORE LP1 and went heavily into Delta. There is a lot to be mad about from that perspective but the treasury is still there. If they were scammers, that money would have already been gone. I've chalked my money as a loss, but I do hope they stay true to the statement that they'll launch during the next bull run. And while BTC was strong this last one, ETH never sustained ATH.  They are ETH maxis so I would guess in a couple of years, theyll come back and launch the project. Until then, it's a bunch of bullshit of nothing but id keep it on your radar once ETH season pops off. 

LordHammercy432

If you're new to crypto do not buy meme coins. You will lose your money. Stick with BTC and ETH and do nothing else.

Givefreehugs

Seeing the 3 main ones, BTC, ETH, and LTC- makes sense. They’re the global standards over the past decade.

kyuronite

The eth-test.eth (or similar "test/alpha reward" ENS domain) scam is a fraudulent web3 testing ruse. Scammers trick users into sending real cryptocurrency to a designated address under the pretense of "testing smart contracts," "testing networks," or receiving high daily percentage returns.How the Scam WorksThe Hook: A scammer or fake group chat instructs you to send real ETH or tokens to an ENS address like eth-test.eth or similar variants to participate in a "test".Fake Returns: They may send back a tiny initial profit or show a fake inflated balance on a malicious dashboard to build false trust.The Trap: Once you deposit a larger amount of real funds, the scammers cut off communication, block your withdrawal, or drain your wallet entirely.Testnet Confusion: Scammers often exploit confusion surrounding test networks (like Sepolia or Goerli), claiming dummy test tokens have real-world monetary value or can be swapped for profit.Safety Rules to FollowNever Send Real Crypto: Legitimate developers will never ask you to send real mainnet ETH to an ENS name or personal wallet for "testing".Ignore DMs: Anyone messaging you on social platforms, Telegram, or Discord offering guaranteed crypto returns or web3 testing tasks is running a scam.Check Official Resources: Refer to Ethereum Security Guidance for official safety practices and to learn how to identify phishing attempts.

PerfectPineapple49

There is no guarentee that ETH will continue to fluctuate within these same price range, I am a beginner so I think this is a good way to learn how crypto market works. Once I become more confident, I will leave this comfort zone and take more risks to see if I can get more rewards or mess it up

master-beast-72

Poolin peaked at around 20-25% of Bitcoin's total hashrate in 2020-2021, which made them genuinely systemically important to the network. Their collapse is a good case study in how brutal the mining business model actually is. The fundamental problem: mining has near-fixed costs (energy contracts, hardware depreciation) but income that's directly proportional to BTC price × (your hashrate / total network hashrate). When BTC dropped 75% in 2022, the math flipped overnight. Hardware bought at peak prices in 2021 suddenly had a payback period of decades. Poolin's specific failure point was their "Pool.io" earnings account — they were offering yield on miners' accumulated BTC balances, essentially acting like an unregulated bank. When liquidity dried up in August 2022, they suspended withdrawals. Many miners lost their earned BTC sitting in that account. The pattern repeated across the industry: Core Scientific (filed December 2022), Compute North (filed September 2022), Argo Blockchain (near-miss), Greenidge Generation... The Ethereum Merge also hit GPU miners who were pooling on Poolin's ETH side. Worth noting: the miners who survived were the ones with locked-in low-cost energy contracts (sub $0.04/kWh) and owned their hardware outright rather than leasing. North American miners with cheap hydro/wind power had a structural advantage that Chinese miners largely lost after the 2021 ban.

newMoneyStyle

fr, having ETH on mainnet vs base vs optimism as separate options is confusing af for new users. should just default to cheapest network or something

skilg

Right now I am doing ETH & SOL, L2 so gas fees are low!

master-beast-72

the existing comments are correct — this is a mainnet vs L2 network mismatch. a bit more context on why it happens: when Coinbase asked "how do you want to send" with 3 options, those were different networks: Ethereum mainnet, Base (Coinbase's L2), and possibly another chain. Base is built on top of Ethereum but it's a separate network — funds on mainnet and funds on Base are not interchangeable directly. your USDT and ETH currently sit on Ethereum mainnet. the recipient is expecting tokens on Base. how to fix: bridge your USDT from Ethereum mainnet to Base. Coinbase has a native bridge in the app (look in assets menu for a bridge option) or use bridge.base.org. after bridging, your USDT will be on Base and usable there. gas fees on Base are dramatically lower than mainnet ($0.01 vs sometimes $5+) which is why many people want to use it. going forward: always verify that sender and recipient are using the same network before sending.

master-beast-72

the River report data is real and the tension it exposes is also real. the "42% US hegemony" figure plus ETF concentration means a significant portion of bitcoin is now held in custodial wrappers by a handful of institutional players — BlackRock, Fidelity, Grayscale. the uncomfortable paradox: mainstream Bitcoin advocacy for years was "we need institutional adoption for price discovery and legitimacy." that adoption happened and what it produced is bitcoin held in SEC-regulated ETFs by the same institutions Bitcoin was supposed to disintermediate. the decentralization of the network (hashrate, nodes) is a separate question from the decentralization of ownership. the network remains technically distributed but economic ownership is consolidating. what's different from Ethereum's institutional adoption: ETH exposure is more fragmented — staking providers, multiple ETF issuers, on-chain DeFi protocols — less concentrated in a single jurisdiction or product type. not decentralized, but differently distributed. none of this "kills" Bitcoin but it's a meaningful shift from the white paper vision.

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Post is by: Macro-Equity and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/technicalanalysis/comments/1v5i61h/usdtd_at_85_what_stablecoin_dominance_isnt/ TL;DR — Stablecoin dominance is a ratio. It rises either because fresh money is coming in (dry powder), or simply because the rest of the market is collapsing. The chart looks identical in both cases. Right now USDT.D sits at 8.5% while supply has been flat for months — that's the second case. And we've seen this signature before. Disclosure: None of this is financial advice. The problem with USDT.D You see it constantly: "USDT.D bouncing off support → alt season incoming." The implicit reasoning is that rising dominance = capital waiting on the sidelines = fuel for the next leg up. That can be true. It can also be completely wrong. The dominance chart alone can't tell you which. The mechanics : USDT.D = USDT market cap / total crypto market cap It's a fraction. It rises in two opposite situations: Case 1 — the numerator rises. New USDT gets minted. Fresh money enters and parks in stables. Real dry powder. Constructive. Case 2 — the denominator falls. Supply doesn't move an inch, but BTC/ETH/alts get destroyed. Dominance rises mechanically, without a single new dollar arriving. The chart goes up the same way in both cases. That's the whole problem. How to tell them apart: absolute supply Look at market cap in dollars, not percentage. On TradingView: CRYPTOCAP:USDT below USDT.D. |Dominance|Absolute supply|Reading| |:-|:-|:-| |↑|↑|Genuine inflows. Capital waiting. Constructive| |↑|flat or ↓|No new money. The market is just bleeding.| |↓|stable or ↑|Capital deploying into risk. Risk-on signal.| Only the first has predictive value. And it's visible only on the supply panel.  Top: USDT.D weekly. Bottom: USDT market cap (CRYPTOCAP:USDT). Boxes aligned on the same time windows. What the chart shows Today: USDT.D at 8.50% (+1.45% on the week). USDT supply at 183.99B, down roughly 30M week over week. Dominance is climbing while supply has been flat since early 2026, with slightly negative weeks. Do the implicit math. If dominance rises sharply while the numerator stays fixed, the denominator — total crypto market cap — must be contracting. That's what this chart is saying, and it's invisible if you only look at the top panel. 2022-2023: same signature. Dominance peaks around 9.1%, and on the bottom panel you can see USDT supply contracting meaningfully over the same window (from \~83B down toward \~65-70B). That wasn't dry powder accumulating. That was the bear market: the market collapsing while money genuinely exited the ecosystem. Today dominance sits at 8.5%, just below that peak, with the same absence of net inflows. Limitations of this comparison (important) I'd rather raise these myself than leave them for the comments: 1. The magnitudes aren't comparable. In 2022-2023 supply actually contracted, on the order of −20%. In 2026 it's a plateau with marginal weekly moves (−0.02%). What they share is the absence of net inflows, not the intensity. This is a growth stall, not a collapse. 2. Two occurrences aren't a statistic. I'm showing what this configuration looked like last time. I'm not claiming the outcome repeats. 3. The context changed. Spot ETFs didn't exist in 2022. Part of institutional capital no longer needs to route through stablecoins to get exposure — so this indicator captures TradFi flow less well than it used to. It mostly tells you what's happening inside crypto-native markets. 4. The levels aren't identical. \~9.1% in 2022 versus 8.5% today. USDT ≠ USDC: the layer above Aggregating all stablecoins throws away the most interesting information. USDT — offshore-dominant, Asia, retail, non-US exchanges, perp markets. It's leverage collateral. Its supply reflects global speculative appetite. USDC — regulated, US rails, DeFi, corporate treasuries, banking on/off-ramp. Its supply reflects institutional capital. The divergences are the real signal: USDC ↑, USDT flat → institutional money via US rails. Slower, generally more durable. USDT ↑, USDC flat → offshore leverage and speculation. Faster, more fragile. Both contracting → global deleveraging. Money leaving crypto. One level deeper: supply by chain. Stables flowing onto one chain while global supply stagnates isn't new money — it's capital rotation. Invisible on an aggregate dominance chart. (Not available on TradingView; use DefiLlama.) Other caveats worth knowing Not every mint is new money. There's cross-chain rebalancing and treasury pre-positioning. Look at smoothed net mints, never the isolated event. This is a slow indicator. Regime context, not entry timing. Don't build an intraday trade on it. Correlation ≠ causation. Rising supply doesn't force anyone to buy. It indicates capacity, not intent. What this actually changes None of this gives you an entry. What it gives you is a regime filter: knowing whether you're trading in an environment where capital is genuinely available, or one where dominance is rising simply because everything around it is burning. The two look alike on a chart. They don't have the same follow-through. What I'm watching for a regime change: supply resuming its uptrend, not dominance falling. If USDT.D drops while supply keeps contracting, that's a false signal of exactly the kind described above. Data: TradingView (USDT.D, CRYPTOCAP:USDT, CRYPTOCAP:TOTAL), DefiLlama for per-chain breakdown. Do you track stablecoin supply in your process? Curious whether anyone here watches the per-chain split, and on what horizon you find it actionable. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

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the dismissive responses here aren't wrong per se — most altcoins underperform BTC over any meaningful timeframe. but "all alts are dead" misses the actual question, which is about approach, not whether it's possible. what actually separates people who make money on alts from those who don't: 1. picking alts with real revenue — protocols that generate fees, have token buybacks/burns, and would survive a bear market because users actually need them (ETH, AAVE, UNI, etc) vs pure speculation plays 2. position sizing — keeping alts to 15-25% of portfolio max, so BTC/ETH carry the bulk and alt losses don't wipe gains 3. entry timing — alts tend to outperform BTC late in bull cycles when BTC dominance peaks and capital rotates. buying alts in sideways/bear market is where most people get burned. 4. setting profit targets in advance — alts are volatile by design, and people who made money typically had a "sell 50% at 2x" discipline rather than HODLing until it reversed. none of this guarantees anything, but those are the actual variables that matter.

BeenALurkerTooLong

You are selecting ETH on base if I am seeing it correctly. But your usdt and Eth is on main St as you probably want it to be. If you want to send on Base you might have to switch. (Ignore any DMs you get offering to help. They are scams)

FroGenCoin

Maybe your problem is not the product but poor timing? If you want to stop losing money on blue chip tokens, such as ETH or BTC, then stop selling them when you are on minus. They will go back up! Maybe it will take some time but they will. It's different story about pure meme lottery tickets. If the token has nothing but speculative value to provide and the community dies, or rogue team pulls the liquidity, then you should consider selling on minus. At least you get something, instead of getting zero. If you want to take more risk and win big, I suggest to look for new project launches, do you own research and bet on new projects that provide value. Good luck!

VendettaKarma

AI is the new crypto. Alts are dead. Basically it’s only BTC and ETH.

Longjumping-Low3164

You are a fool if you think ETH is not gambling. ETH has ecisted over a decade and has brought endless list of failed projects ir scams.

HoldCtrlW

$1900 ETH hard rejected, going to $1500 retest then we can see

MCL-Jonathan

Wow, you’re ticking all the right boxes. 👏 Higher allocation to **Bitcoin** (digital gold), followed by **ETH** and **SOL,** a sensible long-term approach. Let’s make sure you won’t fall into the meme traps again when the market is all hyped up again. Can I ask what caused the shift? Was it a change in conviction, or simply your investment strategy maturing? Personally, since I still believe we’re in a bear market, I’d continue DCA-ing into Bitcoin. Historically, buying around the **200-week moving average** has produced some of the healthiest returns in the following bull market. [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

gethereddout

Everyone is losing money right now. The high fees on ETH are hardly a selling point. This is a marathon, not a sprint, and it’s far from over. I personally think Cardano has a better programming model

HoldCtrlW

ETH $1900 hard rejection going lower

Banker_dog

The hate on this sub is never ending. Bunch of ETH fanboys that can’t celebrate anything apart from their own disdain for anything else that innovates in the blockchain space.

Flashy-Potatoe-Queen

Kraken is a solid platform to make your purchase and/or to trade.... but the first purchase you should make as a beginner is a coldwallet. Buying coins is meaningless if you keep yourself vulnerable. A coldwallet is not a "safety option" it's the minimum requirement. Tangem is probably the best for begginers if you buy a set of 3 and go seedless. Otherwise Ledger and Trezor are also pretty solid. If you want to invest in crypto, you need to know why you are here to pick the right thing for you : - You want to trade ? Pick coins with a lot of volume like BTC, ETH and SOL. - You want to invest long term and let it grow ? Go for decentralisation to avoid long term manipulation with things like BTC, KAS or XMR. - You want to gamble ? At least do your own research to learn how to avoid the most obvious scams, there are tons of it. Good luck on your adventure and trust no one, ESPECIALLY if that personne DMed you first, they are 99.9% of the time dirty scammers acting friendly to empty your accounts.

dynamic1v1pros

I have similar % gains to you, What should I short next? I’m planing to short ETH

jekpopulous2

Rollups pay priority fees which go directly to the validators… they make up about 10% of the total transaction fees. Rollups also burn tons of ETH between blob base fees for DA and L1 base fees for settlement contracts.

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Wheaties4brkfst

They’re probably asking about ETH because it only just barely hit its ATH this cycle. They’re probably asking about BTC because we’re entering a period of sustained hashrate decline. Bitcoin also failed to double this cycle so that means miner revenue may be on the decline.

ETHMeMeSwifties

60 billion USD is spent every month on MEME coins. Many new users lose everything, because they do not have experience. To MINIMIZE RISK, First, you must make a change. The best change, is to go to the new Robinhood chain. Requirements, Meta Mask wallet and ETH any amount. Next, go to dextools, all chains and select Robinhood chain, at the search box, you can type SHIBCAT, click at connect, select EVM wallet, in the list select Meta mask and swap ETH directly to SHIBCAT, if you have other Robinhood MEME, you can swap them directly to others without having to sell them first. To sell, you MUST convert tiny amount of ETH to Robinhood ETH version, very tiny like 2USD this required to cover the tiny gas fees in robin hood. WHY SHIBCAT basically the BRAND NAME, SHIB is very famous, many cat MEMES in Robin hood network have failed due to lack of BRAND NAME  

Django_McFly

I use Coinbase, but pretty much the only "exchange" I do with them is exchanging dollars in my bank for USDC and then I buy what I want on a DEX. And as a free bridge for USDC/ETH/cbBTC. I kinda don't like them but they offer 1:1 USDC to USD on buys and sells so it's convenient. There *was* a Direct Deposit program which was nice but they got rid of it and switched to a provider I don't trust. They changed my account, gave me no notice, their attitude was "meh, I'm sure he'll notice something is up when the money is missing so why bother letting him know ahead of time?" Binance.us was always ass. Crazy fees on everything, even when you withdraw to BSC. For the tokens I buy, Coinbase withdraw fees are $0 as long as I'm not withdrawing to ETH L1. I actually liked FTX.us because they treated like 5 different stables as 1:1 with USD and supported a bunch of chains, but obviously they had issues. Kraken is a US exchange and is older than Coinbase but they didn't start accepting US bank transfers until like 6 years after Coinbase did, so they weren't a real option for me (my primary use is converting dollars in my bank for crypto) when I was getting started.

Dangerous_Relief8971

The size is the problem more than the protocol. Split it and TWAP — no single-block route survives 'large amounts' without the dynamic fee spiking. Benchmark each chunk against a CEX quote on ETH/BTC; if your decentralized route is >0.5% worse you're donating to arb bots. And given the [Switcher.finance](http://Switcher.finance) scam thread here last week: only use routes where you can verify the contract yourself, not web frontends recommended in comments.

deltamark_btc

the price-didn't-follow is the key signal for me as a trader. corporate demand at the register, but large wallets net depositing to exchanges simultaneously - that's supply meeting demand, or just distribution into the narrative. ETF net outflow confirms it. retail selling while corporates buy = net effect on spot is muted. been watching ETH fail $1,879 multiple times this week and the tape keeps agreeing - buyers exist, just not above that level. the concentration point is underrated. if BitMine drives most of the ether treasury flow, that demand is only as durable as BITM's premium over NAV. premium compresses, the buyback logic reverses. good research. what are you using for the on-chain net depositor flag - that's the signal i'd want in real time.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Are BTC and ETH dead?

gyeol9

Depends on what you’re holding, but general rule: Coinbase/Robinhood are custodial — they hold your keys, not you. Fine for buying, but not really “your” crypto until it’s off there. For a beginner-friendly non-custodial wallet: MetaMask (great if you’re mostly in ETH/EVM chains) or Trust Wallet (supports way more chains, decent UI, good starting point if you’re not sure what you’ll end up holding). If you ever get into bigger amounts, a hardware wallet (Ledger is the most common one) is worth it — keeps your keys fully offline.

unusual-fire

As there are better alternatives and BTC/ETH fail to innovate, it's hard to allocate funds towards them. So it's only traders and NGU people who try to make money but builders are moving elsewhere. So less dead but more slowly dying.

counterboy12

Impossible, the monolithic architecture makes scaling the base layer difficult without introducing tradeoffs in decentralization, security, or hardware requirements. ETH took a weird route where they basically let other people built centralized chains on top of them, with the possibility to halt and censor transactions up to 12 hours….

Choice_Employee_7739

Thanks for sharing! So you mean the architectures of BTC and ETH are fixed now. Could their developers update or scale them for better use?

unknowngloomth

Gas is always paid in ETH, never in the token you're sending. LINK lives on Ethereum, so moving it needs ETH sitting in that same wallet to cover the network fee, even though LINK itself has value, it can't pay for its own gas. Check your real balance on Etherscan. Copy your wallet address from Cake, paste it into etherscan.io, and confirm exactly how much ETH is actually in that address (not just what Cake shows). Check the live gas cost. Etherscan has a "Gas Tracker" page that'll show you what an ERC-20 transfer actually costs right now, in real time. Compare that to your confirmed ETH balance. If ETH is short, top it up in the exact same address. Send a small amount $5 or 10 to be safe from an exchange or another wallet, directly to that Cake Wallet address. Then retry the LINK transfer. If your ETH balance is genuinely enough and it's still failing, that points to something wallet-specific rather than a funds issue worth trying to import into MetaMask via your seed phrase, done privately, never shared with anyone to see if it goes through there. One last thing, you're gonna get DMs offering to "help" now that this is posted. Don't share your seed phrase or private key with anyone, ever, no matter how legit they sound. Everything above you can do yourself

Longjumping-Low3164

I do not see value in ETH. I see value only in Bitcoin. How can a platform that generates endless list of useless projects or scams be worth of hundreds of billions of USD?

Longjumping-Low3164

Its been over a decade. ETH market cap of 225B USD is irrational. Where is the value?