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kironet996

Niice green dildos. Any reason? I see BTC dumped back below the resistance, ETH is still well above it so far. What are we thinking? Fake pump to bait longs or actual reversal?

MaximumStudent1839

2021 was a crazy time. Simp NFTs. NFTs promising to be the next playboy. NFTs promising to be the next pornhub. Yada yada yada Anything imaginable, it was done on ETH NFT season. Now Solana is just digging up all the old shit and launching them as “ICM/creator” tokens. This space is so stupid. Insanity is literally trying the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.

hblok

Well, Europe is never going to learn. Same story over and over. That's been well established with hundreds of years of history by now. Nothing news-worthy. What's much more worrying, is that the leader of the only worth-while alternative crypto coin is getting into politics. I don't know or care what he was referring to, however, Vitalik's main concern should be ETH not EU.

Ghola_Mentat

Can’t wait to buy a bunch of those stupid expensive NFTs for like a buck and $200 in ETH transaction fees.

piggleii

ETH couldn't carry this market if you gave it a forklift.

A_Birde

Thats why I long ETH

LargeSnorlax

In fairness, in a couple years, the negative commenters here will be on buttcoin, saying how crypto is a scam, so the pipeline is pretty much the same thing Look at the people raging here - Big buyers of Injective at ATH (-90%), Bitcoin at 125k, ETH at 5k, DOGE at ATH in 2021 We all know what they bought, when they bought it - They aren't people involved in the space, they're degenerate gamblers, people spending more money than they can afford to lose, who are mad that they're not good at degenerate gambling Same with the people on buttcoin, they're all former /r/cc users who lost their shirt and pants trading garbage that they didn't understand, so now crypto is a scam and it's going to zero yadda yadda and so forth It's been the same for the entire time I've been in crypto and I doubt it'll change ever

CheesecakeLong4760

I hope sharing my story can bring some value to others who might take something away from it. Let’s break it all down, starting from where it began back in 2017. In 2017, I bought crypto for the first time some ETH and DOGE. Honestly, I only bought them because everyone was saying it was “the next big thing.” I didn’t really know what I was doing. I ended up trading my ETH on Binance for random altcoins and eventually sold the ETH I bought at $100 each for coins like TRX… and basically lost it all. I repeated the same mistakes again around 2021. Now for the interesting part. After those first two “cycles,” I had around $3k left. But the difference was that during that time, I’d actually gained more financial knowledge mainly because I had started a stock index investing plan and just wanted to learn how to make money in general. So, I started again with that $3k, but this time I was much more curious and engaged. I lurked around google, connected with Bullish Ledger Market signals, and made my first “Breakthrough” in the space. Finally, I turned that $3k into $10k thanks to Bullish Ledger Market signals. I hit $100k on July 27, 2025, and for the first time, I felt like I actually had some skills and maybe I could really build something from this.❤️

hautedog

40% BTC, 20% ETH, 40% USDC/DeFi

Numerous_Ruin_4947

ETH is extremely undervalued.

GroundbreakingPage41

Yep, this is literally an ETH sub pretending to be a general crypto currency sub. You’ll see people parrot the same talking points as if they actually give a shit about fundamentals, centralization, and tokenomics. Everyone here is just deep in ETH and has been for years and are desperate to see it live up to the decade long hype

_Jimmy_Rustler

Inverse r/cryptocurrency. The hivemind here is a real thing. Three things this sub will always be are pro-ETH, anti-SOL, and broke.

outoftownMD

BTC first, ETH next, Sol also but last.

Distinct-Thanks-6477

Who has been bold enough to buy dips during this unpredictable price action? Waiting patiently for my reward for adding more ETH, AIOZ, and SOL. I think BTC breaking past $100k is the key.

Rusty_Charm

Are you onchain at all? The answer must be ‘no’ because otherwise I really don’t understand how you could say nothing has changed. Look at the ETH eco: You have a blossoming defi sector, you have privacy layers, you have social apps (farcaster), you have wallets that have substantially decreased friction (e.g. farcaster wallet). On top op of that you have fees on L1 substantially lower than they were in 2021, and ofc you have L2s where a txn costs a few cents. So I really don’t know how that could possibly be called “nothing has changed”.

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The article title also doesn't match the content, I am half convinced that slop nonsense like this just gets posted to fill up the maximum thread limit and keep actual news from being shared. Title: > Old Ethereum Whale Moves $1.19 Billion After A Decade... First line: > A long-dormant Bitcoin wallet reawakened... So it's not about an old Ethereum Whale, it's an old Bitcoin whale taking a 5x long ETH position [https://hypurrscan.io/address/0xb317d2bc2d3d2df5fa441b5bae0ab9d8b07283ae].

VariatCA

BTC's up 4.5% and ETH's up 7.5% in two hours. Yeah that's still worth lighting off a sparkler or two lol.

VariatCA

And yet the BTC and ETH I bought near the November lows are +16% and +26% since then. Perspective! There's plenty of opportunity to be made if you keep your eyes on the ball and focus on the macro-economic perspective.

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tldr; An old Ethereum whale, dormant for nearly a decade, moved $1.19 billion, sparking speculation about increased institutional interest in Ethereum. The whale deposited 10 million USDC into HyperLiquid and opened a leveraged long position on 15,000 ETH. This activity coincides with BitMine Immersion Technologies' aggressive ETH accumulation, now holding nearly 3% of the total supply. Analysts suggest this signals institutional confidence, though concerns about market centralization and Ethereum's future trajectory remain. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

HoldCtrlW

Shorting ETH here, target is $1600 bounce.

whisperedstate

That's funny, because on Ethereum today you can take out loans on your ETH using your keys and without a custodian. If you want a loan from Saylor, hand over your keys.

TechnicalRadish78

Right after ETH hits $10k...which means never.

jinalva

Did you stack at least 2-3 months of expenses on your bank account and invest into ETFs/stocks? Only then would I go into crypto as a side bet. 80/20 BTC ETH would be my recommendation. Main thing is that you stick with your plan.

NorskKiwi

IIRC I'm paying around 2% to loan bnUSD via Balanced Network. Can use ETH, SUI, SOL, AVAX, XLM and a bunch of other assets as collateral. You could then swap it on their DEX to native USDC on any of those chains.

epic_trader

> It. works.like. that. right. now. It doesn't my man and just saying "it does" just proves you haven't actually got a clue. But why don't you take what I wrote and put it into claude so it can explain it to you and see for yourself? Maybe you'll learn something. >It's Base Fee + Priority Tip, in ether. You're not explaining how the fee is priced. Your claim was "the less valuable ETH is the more transactions can be done on it, and the more value the apps that use it are" which is utter nonsense, so I'm asking you to explain the mechanism behind this claim. Everyone knows you pay for transactions in ether, but try to explain *how* they are priced. What's the mechanism that determines if the price of a transaction goes up or down?

pbybel

honestly kraken is one of the better exchanges but youre right about counterparty risk. for ETH you could do Lido or Rocket Pool. SOL maybe Marinade or just native staking

Aerocryptic

99.9% of the coins have been unlocked already on Solana. It was one of the last coins that was profitable for the early investors who were not VCs. I know you love to hate it, like most ETH maxis do, but you could have picked a better example

tornavec

I've been using centralized exchanges and wallets for the past 6 years. Yes, there's undeniable risk involved, but cryptocurrency as a whole is a risky venture – just look at its massive drawdowns every four years. As for staking, you can't stake Bitcoin anywhere without taking on risk. It's a Proof-of-Work blockchain. Similarly, staking ETH independently is out of reach for most due to the technical and financial barriers (32 ETH, node maintenance). This is where trusted centralized services come in. You can find attractive yields there. For example, I'm earning ~20% APY on my TRX with Cryptomus. That yield alone can offset even significant price dips in the underlying asset.

Fit-Poet6736

yes, especially ETH

Fit-Poet6736

just keep adding to your ETH position at this point

Connect_Gold_8148

I do $200 split BTC/ETH 70/30 every paycheck. Use BingX recurring buys so it just happens automatically at 9 am on payday. Zero thinking and zero emotion.

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tldr; The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has launched a pilot program allowing bitcoin (BTC), ether (ETH), and USD Coin (USDC) to be used as collateral in U.S. derivatives markets. The initiative aims to establish clear rules for tokenized collateral, including real-world assets like U.S. Treasuries. Futures commission merchants meeting specific criteria can accept these digital assets as margin collateral under strict reporting and custody requirements. The program updates outdated guidance and aligns with the GENIUS Act to modernize digital asset regulations. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Bubbacarl

Fully agree it makes no sense lets hope it defies logic and makes us a lot of money. I was hoping to add to my ETH this week but I’ve got a couple ugly stocks that were supposed to be unloaded last week!

GardenKeep

Yea he also said ETH is gonna hit 60k… Regardless he’s already bought like 4 percent of the whole fucking supply and the price hasn’t moved. Why is it gonna double in the next month? Makes no sense.

Bubbacarl

Did you see Tom Lees presentation on ETH two days ago? He’s saying ETH will double and bitcoin to 250k by end of January. I sure hope he is right!

NinjaChore

Congratulations, you own all of BTC, everyone now uses ETH, your BTC is worth nothing

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epic_trader

Everything you say about BTC and mining is correct, yet you're completely missing the point. If the hashrate drops, the network is less secure. It becomes cheaper to attack the network, there's more mining hardware sitting idle on the sidelines which potentially could come back online to attack the network. Do you get it? The fact that the difficulty will adjust itself based on the hash rate or that you know the issuance schedule does absolutely nothing to make the network more secure. >In fact the less valuable ETH is the more transactions can be done on it, and the more value the apps that use it are! That's the entire point of Ethereum, that I think everyone is missing. This is nonsense and I don't know why you brought this up anyway (I mean I do know, but it's not relevant here). The cost of using the network isn't relative to the price of ETH, it's based entirely on demand for blockspace.

Gubbie99

Your questions are real. And that’s exactly why Ethereum implemented the burn mechanism. To hinder the network to be flooded or congested. And if the supply drop and price spikes it would make people not spend ETH as much and then ETH would slowly inflate again. So it was a very well thought trough improvement. Instead of answering questions here on Reddit you should research into it. Many of these EIP’s that makes Ethereum better and faster and cheaper is done so with functions that are clever and well thought trough.

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dhoni23

Well, no one could precisely predict how the world would be like in 2026. But I do believe in a big dip in 2026. Sold all my crypto close to the peak. ETH at 4400, SOL at 240, etc. Waiting for that next dip. Always asking myself if I should buy it already as the dip is here or wait for that crazy bearish world in 2026. haha!

mrjune2040

Sure, in the worst case the risk a complete loss of funds relative to any liquidation proceedings. Many many centralised lenders have gone under, so it’s not like Kraken would be the first. However the odds of Kraken going under are probably pretty low as they’re moving towards their IPO and reporting standards are going to need to be more transparent once they’re public. That said- I keep zero funds on exchanges. The sole exception was Celsius years ago- but I was lucky on two parts, firstly that it was a very small portion of my total crypto holdings (I intentionally de-risked) and that I actually made money from the bankruptcy because most of my holdings were stables and we were paid out in BTC and ETH which then quickly appreciated. My advice- everything kept on an exchange should be an amount you’re willing to lose in the worst case.

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flsurf7

It's odd because ETH never really set a new ATH in this last "cycle". Something funny is happening between ETH/BTC, just not sure how significant it will be.

PapiMak

ETH maxi, not a bad call.

Available_Win5204

DCA into ETH and nothing else. 

Supaflyray

ETH does majority of the stablecoin volumes, which pays us stalkers heavily. I think ETH almost did $2 trillion in volume in stablecoins alone. That’s a lot of transactions to verify through staking. Sol does have a lot of transactions, but it’s mostly gamble bots on pumpfun if you ask me. And SOLs inflation is no where near what ETHs is.

outoftownMD

Possibly What’s more likely since I know some of them, is they bought and had a good pretty good sense of when the peaks were ending and then they would buy back at a lower price. They were really good at that especially early on. They were really good at not buying to hope. They were also first access to many ICO that would then pump that they would then sell from that currency back into ETH or BTC. So they didn’t have to touch any of their stacks, and in fact accumulated a lot more.

PapiMak

Go 80/20 on BTC/ETH and just dca for a few years and forget about it, treat it like a savings account.

iwakan

Your own chart shows ETH doing pretty well against BTC in the long run. Up more than 10x vs BTC since its inception ten years ago (because your chart is actually wrong, the ratio was 0.0023 this day in 2015, not 0.008). If you want to make extraordinary claims like "alt/btc bleeding being the only guarantee in crypto" you better actually provide some evidence, which whatever you posted certainly falls short of being.

imfuckinglying2u

ETH is not a shitcoin. ETH is *the* shitcoin. Daily cope here and at r/ethereum are hilarious. If crypto somehow survives, it will be through BTC.

biba8163

Remember ETH Maxis made a site mocking Saylor for buying BTC over ETH and even created a site to expose his foolishness... > MICROSTRATEGY (MSTR) BTC HOLDINGS $ 2.679 billion > IF THEY HAD BOUGHT ETH INSTEAD, THEY WOULD NOW HAVE $ 5.596 billion https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ylroaa/what_if_microstrategy_had_brought_eth_instead/ ...and they started looking really stupid > MICROSTRATEGY (MSTR) BTC HOLDINGS Invested: $ 30.360 billion, currently worth: $ 45.652 billion (50 %) **(2025)** > IF THEY HAD BOUGHT ETH INSTEAD, THEY WOULD NOW HAVE $ 31.455 billion (4 %) https://web.archive.org/web/20250221180630/https://www.blockchaincenter.net/en/there-is-no-second-best/ So that Website now directs to a site that tracks MSTR buys/holdings lol

MinimalGravitas

> What is going on here? I must be just mistaken. Yea, I'm afraid so... > There was promises of fast secure and private payments. Ethereum settled $27 trillion in stablecoin transfers last year, in total $49.7T worth of stablecoins were transferred onchain in the last 12 months... for comparison Visa (the biggest card payment processor in the world) settled $15.7T. https://visaonchainanalytics.com/ > Promises of good integrations Talking of Visa, they now have a RWA tokenization platform that allows the to bring tradfi assets onchain to Ethereum. So does Blackrock (the biggest asset manager in the world) and UBS (the biggests private bank in the world). Sony has built an Ethereum L2 and a stablecoin for use in their online payments; Robinhood has built an Ethereum L2 and a stock tokenization platform for EU customers; Deutsche Bank have launched an Ethereum L2 as part of the huge international crypto adoption push 'Project Guardian'... https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum/ > and low fees. It currently costs $0.02 to send ETH on Ethereum L1, or around $0.0001 to send over one of it's L2s. https://www.growthepie.com/fundamentals/transaction-costs > Promises of decentralization. The network is more decentralized than ever, both talking about distribution of nodes: https://chainbound.grafana.net/public-dashboards/d001850804e1454fa24852c9dd82db97 And client diversity: https://ethernodes.org/ > But it only seems like we've gotten less of that over time... Based on what...? > I thought we would have options to exchange with each other What do you think is missing, in what way do you see a barrier stopping you sending something to someone or whatever? > and make payments more easily by now You can use projects like Gnosis Pay to literally spend onchain assets in a self-custody multisig with a regular Visa card, anywhere Visa is accepted - what could be easier than that? https://gnosispay.com/

biba8163

Innovation is just crypto hype to sell you a bunch of shitcoins that make the founders and VC rich. The Use Cases are that are being adopted are clear: - Store of value = BTC - Payments, transfers, remittances = Stablecoins - Rails for Stablecoins = Ethereum, Tron, Solana, ETH L2s, etc. - Privacy *(Very little wide level public interest but honorable mention here)* There has been little innovation of anything that can provide real world value and adoption outside BTC. - Stablecoins were the result of the Omni Layer created on top of Bitcoin that allowed custom token ownership and transfer in the network which allowed for the creation of ICOs and the launch of Tether on the Bitcoin network. Other networks like Ethereum and Tron now provide the rails for Stablecoins instead of BTC which functions as a decentralized store of value. Smart Contracts have NOT proven to provide any type of real world value except for trading, leveraging, gambling, lending and yield farming shitcoins on DeFi casinos. The market is maturing and consolidating. **The Total Altcoin market is shrinking (-35% over 4 years) not growing over a 4-year period period for the first time in history.** *BTC and Stablecoins are provide the main growth. This is the market maturing and consolidating:* - BTC Marketcap 5.6X since 2017 BTC ATH - Top 4 Alts Marketcap 4.3X since 2017 BTC ATH - Total Alt Marketcap 3.4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Stablecoin Marketcap 320X since 2017 BTC ATH | | Dec. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | Dec. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $0.32T | $1.23T | $1.80T | Top 4 Alts | $0.163T | $0.8123T | $0.70T | Total Alt | $0.282T | $1.52T | $0.97T | Stablecoin | $0.001T | $0.11T | $0.32T | Total Crypto| $0.603T | $2.86T | $3.09T | **Top 4 Alt Dom. over Alts**| **57.80%** | **53.44%** | **72.16%** | **BTC Dom. Over Top 4** | **66.25%** | **60.23%** | **72.00%** | **BTC Total Alt Dominance** | **53.16%** | **44.73%** | **64.98%** **Any dominance indicated is measured excluding stablecoins*

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tldr; BitMine Immersion Technologies, led by Chairman Tom Lee, has purchased $429 million worth of Ethereum (138,452 ETH), bringing its total holdings to 3.864 million ETH, valued at approximately $12 billion. This marks the company's largest Ethereum purchase in nearly two months. Lee attributes the aggressive buying to confidence in Ethereum's future, citing factors like the Fusaka upgrade, Federal Reserve policies, and market recovery. BitMine is also developing a staking infrastructure, MAVAN, and anticipates a 'crypto supercycle' driven by adoption and tokenization by 2026. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

TheDadThatGrills

(1) The word Platitude doesn't mean what you think it does (2) Do I really need to spell out the progress of the last decade for you? Sure. In 2015, was the year ETH was created. Today we have $12B of actual assets tokenized on the same platform.

_Sanner_

Before you go into the crypto investment, do some paper trading first. if you think you ready, evaluate how much you are willing to risk. To make things easier just look at BTC and ETH first. Don't touch other coins. Top rules: whatever you try to invest, keep your capital is No.1 priority.

flsurf7

Anyone seeing a trend on the BTC/ETH chart - Daily Candles+? We just held above another support level and Im seeing a "flippening" trend continuing.

biba8163

Reminder that the ETH/BTC ratio was once 0.15 (Summer 2017). Reminder that when you are picking an Alt, you are trying to pick an Alt which bleeds the least vs BTC. They all bleed. ALT/BTC bleeding is the ONLY guarantee in crypto. | Date | ETH/BTC Ratio | |:-----------|:--------------------------------------| 12/08/2015 | ████ 0.008 12/08/2016 | ██████ 0.010 12/08/2017 | ███████████████ 0.028 12/08/2018 | ███████████████ 0.027 12/08/2019 | ███████████ 0.020 12/08/2020 | █████████████████ 0.030 12/08/2021 | ██████████████████████████████████████████████ 0.088 12/08/2022 | ██████████████████████████████████████████ 0.074 12/08/2023 | ████████████████████████████████ 0.053 12/08/2024 | ██████████████████████ 0.040 12/08/2025 | ████████████████████ 0.034 > If you think 0.04 BTC is low, the ETH/BTC ratio is going to feel like getting kicked in the nuts over and over again over the long term as the ratio falls below 0.01 and goes lower and lower. **(September 2024)*** > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. > | | Initial | High | Current | > |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| > | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC > | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS > | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC > | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9jvct/

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imfuckinglying2u

The gold rush is over, there won't be another "alt season". Just BTC, and maybe (a big maybe) ETH gradually strengthening its foothold and tagging along other assets.

ProfitableCheetah

The lower fees go, the fewer ETH is burned. I really don't understand why people expect it to be deflationary when fees are trending toward zero

puffythegiraffe

The inverse is also true so this says nothing. Volatility on ETH and other smaller caps are always going to make them “outpace” whatever trend bitcoin sets.

Odd_Fun5012

Damn this is like the crypto equivalent of prepping for the apocalypse lol. I respect the security paranoia but at that point you're basically running a one-person CIA operation just to buy some ETH The lawyer thing is actually pretty smart though, never thought about that approach for inheritance planning

Dongerated

If you want to lose 20% of the value in a single day. Sure. There’s a reason why whales stick to ETH or BTC instead of these new projects.

Internal_Resort5451

ETH is the more conservative long-term choice due to its established infrastructure. SOL, however, is benefiting from high throughput, low fees, and increased user inflow this cycle.

Gubbie99

"From my understanding the burned eth is sent to random accounts and not truly destroyed." This is how you do it as a private person. The burn mechanism built in various smart contracts and ETH blocks remove them from circulation (existance). so ETH can and will go negative supply if its growing quicker than its scaling thats what we did see a few years ago.

Patient-Process-2565

Be very careful, crypto is highly volatile and risky. S & P 500 or similar for the bulk of your investments a couple of ETF’s perhaps a single stock of a company you fully understand. A small position (5%) into BTC, (3%) ETH and 2% into altcoins but learn to take profits from your alts.

Odd-Parking-90210

BTC's inflation rate, the "mining" of new BTC, is fixed. ETH's is not fixed. It was changed to be deflationary. The point is not that it is not deflationary, even though it is now burning ETH, **the point is that the inflation/deflation rate can be changed at all.**

No-Entrepreneur-1010

ETH sure stack a lot of it but im not sure about SOL

HSuke

It's already close to 0 and bounces between the +/- 1% range. The community valued low fees and attracting usage over deflation. Ironically, the price of ETH went down in 2022 while it was more deflationary and went up in 2024 while it was more inflationary. And the loudest voices tend to care more about price.

Character-Reply407

Doesn't ETH have an unlimited supply cap, so it will eventually be just as diluted as the USD? 

MinimalGravitas

Do you believe that the 21M limit will be kept then? If so, which of the other solutions to [the security budget problem](https://budget.day/) do think will be used? Copying BCH and getting big blocks, or copying ETH and getting rid of miners?

lotad_or_bust

Idk what the rule for this is but i snagged this be re-searching this in reddit. all hail the OP [Gubbie99](https://www.reddit.com/user/Gubbie99/) •[2y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/171cj45/comment/k3pslbn/) ETH is deflationary when the need for the blockchain is “too big”. The block size is limited. But it can be “exceeded” at a cost of burning some ETH. That’s why ETH has been deflationary since merge… the need for Ethereum has sometimes been bigger than the blockchain growths “target”. Ethereum was redesigned or upgraded a while back so the monetary policy would target a steady use of the blockchain, when there is “spare room” in the blocks, (gwei lower than 25) then ETH is inflationary to encourage more usage of the chain. When gwei goes above 25 i signals that the blockchain is congested and some ETH is burned in the process to increase the value of ETH and slow down the growth of the blockchain. Pretty smart tech! 🫡

I_post_my_opinions

That's not how it works in practice, and for good reason. Cryptos are valued against the total possible supply. New bitcoin being mined does not have any effect on the economy surrounding it. ETH supply increasing by 0.15% YoY WILL have an effect.

I_post_my_opinions

That's not how it works in practice, and for good reason. Cryptos are valued against the total possible supply. New bitcoin being mined does not have any effect on the economy surrounding it. ETH supply increasing by 0.15% YoY WILL have an effect.

tobypassquarant

It's pointless to even say this. ETH is the darling of this sub. You can't say the princess is ugly.

_Jimmy_Rustler

BCH has been a solid investment from the start. Also, I think it and XRP are still the only two to have flipped ETH.

geppelle

that's not how it works. You could say there never gonna be more than 10^999 ETH to give you an upper bound like BTC and have the same reasoning.

VariatCA

Compared to August/September prices, I'm sure he's not complaining while snagging an extra 100,000 ETH a week. His average buy of ~3k is hardly even budging at these prices.

VariatCA

Where did I say I was buying "the pump" each day? The BTC and ETH I bought back on November 20th is currently up 12-15%, and I don't have any purchases since then. I don't have another unless my ladder-buy order triggers at 77.6k.

Letsmovethemarket

Buy ETH and BTC. All others are just poker chips on the roulette table!

oak1337

Hedera is faster, cheaper and has deterministic finality (100% sure), versus ETH (and most others) probabilistic finality (just get more sure over time, but never really 100%). Hedera has fundamentally solved the Blockchain Trilemma. You talk about tradeoffs, which is what balancing the Trilemma is all about. ETH has to sacrifice security or scalability or decentralization in order to improve on any of them. ETH sacrificed scalability initially, which is why L2s are needed for scale. But those L2s also had to make sacrifices in security or decentralization in order to get that scale. Hedera does all things well. ABFT security (best mathematically possible). Unlimited scalability (add more nodes/shards = add more scale). Equal node consensus power, and it gets more and more decentralized as it scales (adds more nodes/shards). Add that it's fixed fees priced in USD, that makes it predictable and forecastable costs. No fluctuating, wildly unpredictable gas fees.

NeoDynomite

Let me share this with you. I created it with AI to make it easy for my family and friends to understand… For over 50 years, our financial system has barely changed. It runs on slow wires, middlemen, bank delays, and tons of paperwork. Now everything is being rebuilt using blockchain technology — and the change is as big as the jump from landline phones to smartphones. People like Tom Lee, Larry Fink (BlackRock), Ray Dalio, and others are openly saying: ✅ “This is a once-in-a-generation change in how money and assets move.” Here’s the easiest way to understand it. ⸻ 🔹 1. Everything is moving onto blockchains Stocks, bonds, real estate, currencies — everything is being “tokenized,” which means they will move and settle on the blockchain. Just like movies moved from DVDs → Netflix assets are moving from paper → blockchain. This makes transactions: • instant • cheaper • safer • 24/7 • global This is why Wall Street, banks, and governments are all switching to blockchain rails. ⸻ 🔹 2. Ethereum is becoming the “internet of finance” Ethereum will likely become the network where: • stocks trade • real estate transfers • loans settle • money moves • contracts run automatically Think of Ethereum like the new financial computer. Banks will use it. Companies will use it. AI systems will use it. This is why big institutions are quietly buying Ethereum. ⸻ 🔹 3. Bitcoin becomes the foundation underneath everything Even if people mostly pay with dollars or stablecoins… The global financial system still needs a backup asset that everyone can trust. Bitcoin became that asset because: • it can’t be changed • it can’t be printed • it belongs to no country • it’s fully transparent • it settles instantly worldwide Bitcoin becomes the “digital gold” that backs the system — not by backing dollars, but by backing trust. That’s why so many billionaires, CEOs, and investment funds view Bitcoin as essential. ⸻ 🔹 4. Why both Bitcoin and Ethereum matter ETH = the digital world where assets live and move Think of it like the highways, power grid, and computer system of the new financial world. BTC = the digital asset that gives the system trust Think of it like the safety vault and the foundation the system stands on. Both are needed: • Ethereum runs the global financial apps • Bitcoin secures the global financial value This is why neither replaces the other. ⸻ 🔹 5. Why this transition is happening now Because the old system is: • too slow • too expensive • too easy to break • not built for AI, globalization, or 24/7 commerce The new system is: • instant • global • programmable • transparent • much safer Every major institution — BlackRock, Fidelity, JPMorgan, Citi, etc. — is preparing for this shift. This is NOT a small trend or a fad. It’s the beginning of a new financial era. ⸻ 🔹 6. What this means long-term Bitcoin and Ethereum are becoming: ✔ Core building blocks of the future financial system ✔ Assets that institutions will need for decades ✔ Critical infrastructure for governments, companies, and markets This is why so many analysts — Tom Lee, Mike Novogratz, Cathie Wood, etc. — believe prices will rise long-term. It’s not speculation. It’s adoption.

MinimalGravitas

The amount of ETH in circulation has gone up by an average of 0.193% per year since it switched to proof of stake ('The Merge') about 3 years and 3 months ago. The amount of BTC in circulation has increased by an average of 1.282% per year over that same time. Looking more recently, over the last 30 days the current BTC supply has been increasing by 0.825% per year, while the current ETH supply is increasing at 0.783% per year. > But BTC doesn’t have inflation, we’re mining to the last block reward, and then transaction fees will be paid to miners. This just depends on human choices, it is not a law of the universe or anything, it just depends on consensus. There is no agreed upon solution to Bitcoin's security budget issue, and one of the most likely options is to introduce tail emmissions, scrapping the 21 million limit in order to keep paying miners... and this would happen significantly before the current emmission schedule reaches zero. The problem to be solved is that Bitcoin (the chain) can only process a relatively small number of transactions per block, therefore the only way to replace the new BTC issuance with transaction fees is to massively increase the cost for users. Doing so however would disincentivize users from transacting, which means the payment to miners would need to be taken from fewer transactions, meaning they would need to cost more, meaning fewer people would transact etc etc and round we go again. The result is that less revenue would be going to miners, so less miners/hashrate would participate, and so the security of the chain decreases. The more expensive BTC becomes and the lower the security budget, the more tempting of a target the network becomes. A lot of people who get their understanding from twitter memes and non-technical influencers like Saylor seem to believe that Bitcoin would be infinitely expensive to attack, but a successful 51% attack at the moment would cost just tens of billions of dollars, a lot for sure, but not much compared to the total amount of value on Bitcoin. Just letting the cost of a successful attack reduce will all but guaruntee that the chain is 51% attacked at some point. None of the proposed solutions seem very palitable: * Massively increase block-size so more transactions can occur per block - this would reduce decentralization and last time it was proposed there was a civil war that resulted in BCH; * Abandon PoW mining and change to a new consensus model - difficult because Bitcoin Maxis have spent the last 5 years preaching that every other system is heresy; * Abandon the 21 million limit and introduce tail emissions, this would allow miners to be sustained long term and would not need a big change to the network, but of course would upset all of the 'store of value' newbies who think understanding Bitcoin just means believing the coin will increase in value.

Supaflyray

You gotta be a bot. BTC has a finite amount. Only 21m. ETH doesn’t have a max supply. But as transaction happen, old ETH is burned and new ETH is minted. At one point, ETH was deflationary. Burning more ETH than it mints. But the last time I checked, it’s like a few hundred thousand new ETH is minted every year, depending on burn and gas fees. Like maybe 100k NEW ETH entering the market every year.

oak1337

3rd crypto ever, behind BTC and ETH, to get a spot ETF. Entire countries adopting (examples Australia and Georgia). Global Fortune 2000's building on it, which will be seen when CLARITY Act finally passes. I guess time will tell... While ETH and all it's L2's are still fumbling around with the Blockchain Trilemma trying to figure out how to scale, Hedera solved the Trilemma, donated it's entire codebase to Linux Foundation, and got launched into space on satellites for Post Quantum Security companies.

IndependentPrimary89

Ethereum blockchain is the internet pf decentralised computing. It’s going to be one of the biggest chains in the next 10 years. But what its going to do in next 12 months is not certain. Question is, will you be able to handle it when/if ETH goes to $300? I would have shared my YouTube video if you were Indian since it’s in Hindi, where I talk more about ETH.

oak1337

Lol keep referring back to the value, the liquidity, etc... You can keep repeating it, and I'll keep repeating it... Liquidity and value can change in an instant. Your foundation is quick sand. Ya know what can't change in an instant? The underlying technology. Hedera is, and will always be, technologically superior to ETH. It's an F15 jet vs a Honda Civic.

oak1337

I'm just saying that the answer of "liquidity" for using ETH is flimsy. The tech sucks, that's why they have to build L2s. The L2s suck. It's just bad tech, Hedera is better. Liquidity will move.

VariatCA

So did the guy you're responding to, back in April/May of this year. He was here every day saying how "shorting ETH was free money and it was about to nosedive below 1k soon". He had measurably much less to say on the matter as Eth climbed from like $1800 to $4900 in barely 3 months, though. Crypto can always surprise you. "It works until it suddenly doesn't."

oak1337

Lol the entire point of Web3 is that liquidity can move anywhere, at any time, instantly and cheaply. Liquidity can change instantly. Underlying fundamental technology cannot. Hedera tech > ETH tech

Original-Ad4399

I tried this once. Then ETH rallied and I got burnt

Project_Demosthenes_

Alt coins are all memecoins and I would recommend only BTC, ETH, and SPX6900.

SpontaneousDream

I don't get why more people aren't lending BTC and borrowing ETH or LINK on Aave. Borrow APY for LINK, for example, has been sub 1% for a very long time!! And the link/btc ratio has literally just been going straight down for over 5 years straight...same with eth/btc. Ratio has been straight down since 2018! That means if you borrow ETH back then at around 0.14 ratio, the debt you owed would be worth about-75% less. When you include a roughly 3% borrow APY, the debt owed would've gone down in value by about 70% (in other words, you profit 70% on your ratio trade). Am I missing something?

oak1337

Lol no. They'll be on Hashgraph Online (www.hol.org). Why would an AI agent choose ETH? Slow, expensive, not secure for quantum. Lol.

YogurtclosetTall2558

Most “top crypto” ETFs end up looking simpler on the surface than they actually are. The overfunded effect you’re seeing usually comes from premiums, liquidity gaps, or how the fund custodies the underlying assets. Crypto ETFs don’t behave like S&P index funds because the underlying market is fragmented and custody risk still exists. So the ETF price drifting above actual NAV isn’t unusual. If you want exposure without picking coins but still want something closer to the real assets, you’re usually better off holding a small basket yourself. BTC + ETH plus one or two infrastructure plays gives you more control and less hidden structure.

YogurtclosetTall2558

Honestly, with 1000 dollars the best move is to avoid chasing random tickers. Start with assets that have survived every cycle like BTC and ETH. Then, if you want exposure to newer narratives, look at projects solving real problems instead of meme tokens. For example, data infrastructure in AI is becoming a real sector. Something like Ocean Protocol focuses on secure data exchange and has been around since 2017 without blowing up users. But don’t buy anything blindly. Start small, learn how wallets work, and treat it like a long term experiment instead of a gamble.