ETH

HoldCtrlW

Ugh I got liquidated again. I guess I'll go back to [r/wallstreetbets](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/) because I had more luck with shorting AI stocks than ETH.

HoldCtrlW

Ugh I got liquidated again. I guess I'll go back to r/wallstreetbets because I had more luck with shorting AI stocks than ETH.

LTP-N

RIP u/HoldCtrlW who's ETH liquidation price was $2,030 and his dusky comments saying ETH was guaranteed to go under $1,500

LTP-N

Current price: $2,013 u/HoldCtrlW 's ETH liquidation price: $2,030

Slade_Duelyst

yeah somehow someone had his address and sent it there, or an automated system from one of the sites he uses messed up. You might be able to track where the ETH came from and see.

MrAl290

ETH going to melt faces

SnideyM

Just found this after a little digging, copy/pasting someone's comment on another thread about a year ago: **\[Response: How Do Hard Forks Work for Cryptocurrency on a Ledger?\]** Hey [u/AnonymousReddit0r995](https://www.reddit.com/user/AnonymousReddit0r995/)! Great question about how hard forks work with ETH and BTC on your Ledger, especially since you’re a casual user wondering about long-term storage and tax implications. I’ll break it down clearly based on the latest 2025 info. #LedgerSupport # 1. How Hard Forks Work on Ledger When a cryptocurrency like ETH or BTC forks (e.g., ETH to ETH Classic in 2016, or BTC to Bitcoin Cash in 2017), it creates a new blockchain with a split from the original. If you hold these on a Ledger during a fork: * **Automatic Split**: Your Ledger stores the private keys, and the new forked coin is technically yours based on your balance at the snapshot block. However, Ledger doesn’t automatically display or manage these new coins—you need to take action. * **Ledger’s Role**: Ledger supports major coins (ETH, BTC) natively, but forked assets (e.g., BCH, ETC) require manual updates or third-party wallet integration. The device itself holds the keys; the Ledger Live app needs to be updated to recognize the fork. # 2. Do You Get the Forked Coins Automatically? No, they don’t just “appear” in your wallet. Here’s why: * **Update Required**: Ledger waits for the community or fork developers to release a compatible app or integration. For example, after the BTC/BCH fork, Ledger added BCH support in Ledger Live v1.4.0 (2017). You’d need to install the forked coin’s app (e.g., Bitcoin Cash app) via Ledger Live’s Manager. * **Claim Process**: Some forks (e.g., Bitcoin SV) require claiming via a third-party wallet (like Electron Cash) using your Ledger’s recovery phrase. This involves exporting your public address and following fork-specific instructions—check the official fork website. * **Your Case**: Since you’ve never gotten anything, it’s likely no major forks (e.g., ETH 2.0 merge wasn’t a fork) hit your holdings, or you missed the update window. Past forks like ETC or BCH had 6-12 month claim periods. # 3. Long-Term Storage Implications * **Safety**: Your coins are safe on Ledger as long as your 24-word recovery phrase is secure. Forks don’t affect the original coins unless you move them. * **Action Needed**: If a fork happens, monitor crypto news (e.g., CoinDesk, X) and Ledger’s blog (ledger.com/blog). Unclaimed forks can lose value over time—e.g., Bitcoin Gold dropped 90% post-2017. * **2025 Note**: Ledger’s latest firmware (2.5.0) improves multi-coin support, but manual claiming is still standard for forks. # 4. Tax Reporting: Have You Overlooked Fork Income? Yes, you might have, and it’s a common oversight for casual users. In many countries (e.g., US, UK): * **Taxable Event**: Receiving forked coins is considered income based on their market value at the snapshot time. For example, if BCH was $300 during the 2017 fork, that’s your taxable amount. * **Reporting**: You’d report this on your taxes (e.g., IRS Form 8949 in the US) even if unclaimed. Since you didn’t know, check past fork dates (e.g., BCH: Aug 1, 2017; ETC: Jul 20, 2016) and their values then. Consult a tax pro—tools like Koinly can help reconstruct. * **Ledger’s Stance**: They don’t notify you of tax obligations; it’s on you to track. # 5. What to Do Now * **Check Fork History**: Look up ETH/BTC forks since you bought (e.g., BCH, BSV, ETC) on blockchain explorers (blockchair.com) using your public address. * **Update Ledger Live**: Ensure you’re on the latest version (v2.58.0, 2025) and install any missing fork apps. * **Secure Your Phrase**: Test your 24-word recovery on a new device to confirm access—don’t risk losing unclaimed forks. * **Tax Prep**: Review 2016-2025 for forks and amend past returns if needed. You’re not alone in this confusion—forks can be tricky! Did you buy during a known fork period? Let’s figure it out together! #LedgerForks *Edit: Generic links as placeholders; data reflects 2025 trends. Not financial or tax advice, just guidance!* !

HoldCtrlW

Looks like another hard rejection at $1900 for ETH. Still waiting for $1750 retest

tom_murray_nw

I don't think there's anything wrong with trading Bitcoin if that fits your strategy. Different assets can have different jobs. For me BTC and ETH are long-term holdings, but I wouldn't pretend the smaller positions have the same level of conviction behind them.

tom_murray_nw

That's pretty much how I look at it too. BTC and ETH are the core holdings, then the smaller positions have a completely different job. Do you keep crypto as its own allocation within a wider portfolio as well, or is crypto your main focus?

AlternativeHunter543

Tangent on the "structure doesn't care" part, since it's something I measured recently instead of assuming. I took 9,000 hourly ETH candles (about 375 days) and grouped every candle by hour of day. Average absolute move per candle is nowhere near flat: loudest hour (14:00-15:00 UTC) 0.66%, quietest hour (10:00 UTC) 0.31%. That's 2.11x between them. Same test on the others: BTC 2.09x, SOL 2.04x, XRP 1.94x. The absolute volatility of those four is wildly different, but the ratio between their loudest and quietest hour is almost identical, which suggests it isn't a property of the coin. It's the same participants showing up and leaving at the same times. Where it bites on structure reads: a level tested at 10:00 UTC is being tested by roughly half the activity of one tested at 14:00 UTC. It can look respected on the chart and just be a thin sample. Same line, very different amount of evidence behind it. I split the year in half and re-ran it on each half separately before believing it, and the two loudest hours held in both halves.

UnknownEssence

funny story. i bought ETH in like 2018 or some shit and it went to 1400 and then down to 85. I was down like 95% . Kept holding for years it actually came back up

fuenfsiebenneun

i sold everything at around 100-110k in january 2025. every single bit. BTC and ETH from 2018 and onwards aswell as SOL from around 2022 i think. always kept DCA‘ing until 2024. i kind of lost the conviction of this space and sold it all. put everything into index funds. and a bit into pokémon cards for the lulz. it has been liberating. letting all that shit go was actually freeing as fuck. not worrying anymore about wallets, exchanges, hacks, suspicious links, you name it. just boring index funds. i love it.

arveena

That's just such a troll post. If you really would be in the game for the last 10 years you would be in the green unless you dont own any BTC or even ETH. So i call BS. You probably bought high if you are 90% down in the last bull and are now crying.

JimmySki6166

Put it all in BTC! ETH & SOL have dropped the past year or so, ETH was over 4k and Sol was close to $275. Look at them now.

Somening

Where do i read about BTC/ETH and alt coins ?

Johnny_cross8

£20/month is plenty to start. I’d keep it simple — BTC/ETH, learn how wallets, fees and volatility work, and ignore the “100x” hype. Treat the £20 as tuition while you learn..

Gears6

> c) I think the costs aren't really small, they're just incorporated into the price. Often charged to the business which eats up profits which incentives the business to raise prices. For example, if you're selling your goods at a 20% margin and paying 3% in fees (on revenue) that's like 18% of your profit. I should clarify that it is negligible compared to the benefit of increased purchases. Cash makes people less likely to buy and they can always pay it "later". As a former business operator that dealt with a lot of that, it's not negligable and we by par prefer people pay with debit cards or even cash (despite the handling). > Also for the "sent and done" property. I don't think there's anything stopping networks from building this into a network. But I guess it either hasn't been asked for or networks that have built this haven't succeeded. It's a double edged sword for businesses too. It's not a technical challenge, but a business and operations challenge. Somebody has to decide if it's okay to cancel transactions. The whole idea of crypto is, nobody is in charge of that. So to implement something like that, we're suddenly no different than the existing systems ruled by the banks. It also means, the government can demand payments be stopped. > So definitely some pros and cons but the credit card model seems to be working pretty well in general. It works out of a necessity to strike the balance between convenience, oversight and profit for the middle men. For people like me, we take advantage of it, and try to profit by maximizing our cashback. The system doesn't care, it charges everyone else a high interest. Which to me at least means, everyone else is paying more than me. > It's a huge risk, not just for crypto. Agreed. It's also a relatively small risk right now, but who knows with AI. We're having huge breakthroughs in science and mathematics due to AI. > There's a ton of pros and cons for and against crypto but it hasn't proven itself as a global payments system i.e. It hasn't replaced Mastercard and Visa. It's great in third world countries. But that's mainly an access thing, rather than because it's a better technology. It likely never will replace MSC/VSA by the simple nature that the value addition that MSC/VSA adds is the real secret sauce of why consumers use them. It's not that it's electronic payments, because let's face it, there's debit cards with a PIN which is quite common in Europe. In fact, I rarely saw credit card transactions in my businesses. It was always, slip the card in, type in your pin and a receipt pops out approving it. Basically, crypto can't be a global payment system until there's some layer on top that solves the business and operational problems that MSC/VSA and the banks have solved. Until then, it's better as a money store and digital gold for those investing. > but I don't think it's necessary in their interest to make crypto payments better than Fiat payments. I think they're more just riding the wave. We'd probably need some big names like that to build more tech for crypto payments to gain more trust and adoption. Anything that tries to solve those issues, likely will need the same operational and business processes that MSC/VSA and banks have. Essentially we're back at the current system. The other aspect is the high cost (or should I say energy usage) of operating BTC. It's still a huge factor and yes, there are other crypto that is based on proof of stake that solves that, but we're in BTC sub. 😜 From a practical standpoint, I believe ETH is much better suited.

Pyroll2206

You are saying you are investing in xrp. I went out of xrp to abswer your question. Otherwise BTC ETH Sol, some rest of others like tron but meaningless

RealAndroid_18

Oh sorry brother! English is not my native language, however, you did understood me very well, right? That is because even thought my english is not perfect, I can perfectly communicate in this language with people like you that only speaks one language... sorry about that :) 2 -> Yeah, Gas fees is for ETH, and btc has BTC fees/transaction fees... same thing, different name. What is your point, dude? You remind me of that meme: "Sorry about grammar, English is not my native tongue! You speak english because that is the only language you know, I speak english because that is the only language that YOU know..." lol

Timely-Fig2030

A max supply is not necessary if features of a deflationary mechanism is implemented, which ETH has through EIP-1559. Dogecoin has nothing to stop it from increasing, because it's trash.

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KrunchyKushKing

ETH also doesn't have a max supply is it shit now too?

spencerocean

I have the exact same strategy as you. BTC and ETH are long term holds. I don’t flinch no matter where the price goes. All other cryptos are speculative trades that I will happily swing trade

Romanizer

BTC is a long-term play. ETH is questionable as the projects supporting are mainly based on throughput, not store of value. Everything else just exists to wait for a pump and sell, here's where you need inside information for an edge.

hodler1992

With only $500 I would tbh not bet on major ones like BTC or ETH. Buy Hyperliquid or Solana instead - those both with outperform of that I'm sure. BTC and ETH is safe play but I guess the outcome of both with such small investment would be neglectable.

MCL-Jonathan

For a first crypto portfolio, I’d personally make **Bitcoin the clear majority**. I’ve been through multiple cycles, makes perfect sense to have higher Bitcoin allocation, otherwise holding anything else you will round trip. Allocate something like: **70–80% BTC** **10–15% ETH** **5–10% SOL** **0% XRP / SUI for me** Why heavier Bitcoin? Because it has the strongest track record, deepest liquidity, clearest market cycle, and the lowest chance of simply disappearing versus smaller crypto assets. I’d also split BTC into two bags: **1)HODL bag** \- long-term, ideally untouched. **2) Swing bag** \- accumulate during the bear market, take profit near the next major cycle top. For ETH/SOL or any other altcoins, I’d treat them differently: **I would plan to sell most or all near the next Bitcoin cycle top and rotate profits back into BTC or cash.** And with Bitcoin still in a bear-market zone, I’d personally be buying more now through DCA rather than waiting for everything to feel bullish again. Good luck 🍀 [Bitcoin Bear Market DCA Playbook](https://youtu.be/JXvr49ECTuo)

ForeverInYourFavor

How's the value store component going? > as with any money, the adoption timeline is first people using it as a store of value Is it? Says who? I thought money evolved as a better way to facilitate trade. Being able to buy things rapidly is perhaps the #1 feature a currency needs in today's world. Cryptocurrency in general had promise. Perhaps has. But the environmental damage caused by mining is unforgiveable, and BTC is never going to reach mass adoption. Funny thing is that 7 years ago I could buy my lunch in London with ETH. Now no-one outside of a niche even knows what it is. Crypto is a sinking ship. I don't see any comeback from here.

MinimalGravitas

There are plenty of legitimate ways to donate to public goods onchain, but I don't think any memecoins would be included in the list. Gitcoin, Giveth and Octant are all platforms I've used in the past and continue to trust. They all work in different ways and are worth learning about from a perspective of interesting tech solutions to democratizing funding what matters, even if you don't plan on using them yourself. I don't really see why making a charitable donation through part of the fees for a memecoin makes sense, compared with just donating all that you want to give, it seems unnecessarily convoluted, and there is clearly a risk of the creator just keeping everything. Lots of people in crypto are pretty generous. Gitcoin alone has had 5 million donations, from 270,000 people through its quadratic funding rounds, totalling over $60 million. Crypto users also donated a pretty huge amount to Ukraine when Russia invaded, about $29M in ETH, almost $23M in BTC, and roughly $12M in USDT, though that was mostly direct donations rather than through any particular smart-contract platform.

PureCod9290

Death doesn't necessarily mean quick death. Look at the returns of any coin past 5 years. Very few winners, ETH down bad and BTC losing to inflation. It's ridiculous to think some use case is gonna emerge 15 years later. It's all just speculation that requires someone else paying more later. It's a house of cards

Traditional_Most105

In every bear period people said crypto is dead because of different reasons. What if BTC strengthening, new regulations that make scam coins fall, and a few of the top 50 alts fight for ETH position and prove to be useful? But then again it's just speculation. 15+ years and crypto still being around with people still investing in bear markets then it means there's speculation. And maybe there might be future usage also that we don't know. Or there might be another new technology in the future that replaces crypto. So again it's just speculation. So the point is nobody knows what will happen but what i see is that there's speculation. Cycles might take longer now, or even broken and something else will start happening. So in the end if you believe crypto is dead, it is dead, if not then you believe you could make profit and that's why you speculate and throw money in it... The whole post is just speculation so you can't actually prove crypto is dead as people in past bear periods couldn't prove it either... you can only prove to yourself that crypto is dead and not worth throwing your money in for a possible profit.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Why aren't satoshi's early mining efforts considered "premining? Permining is when a scammer, let's call him Vitalik, for example, creates 72,009,995 ETH in the Genesis block, before letting anyone else to compete with their hashrate. >Presumably He mined most of the first million BTC unopposed That's not true. I believe Dustin mentioned [in this podcast](https://stephanlivera.com/episode/314/) how the first node (possibly Satoshi) was waiting for another node before it started mining. And even if Satoshi wouldn't wait, there still was competition from other users. Half I believe tweeted his legendary" Running Bitcoin" about a week since the network started. So have many others. Some turned the mining off, some believed in the network or wanted to support it and kept mining. One way or another, Satoshi was competing with other users/miners, burning his energy that was more costly than the mined coins generated.

GesturalAbstraction

You seem to be new to crypto. Crypto is currently in a winter cycle, which is why token value is low. Crypto has 4.5 year cycles that coincide with BTC’s halving events. The last halving event was about two years ago, and the major run up for the crypto space usually takes place about a year afterward (last year). Following that year is a “crypto winter” which is what we’re in the middle of right now - everything slumps. If you’re smart this is a great time to start accumulating for the next bull cycle (probably about 2-3 more years). Alt coins are doing terribly and may not meaningfully recover. However BTC and ETH are still relevant - BTC as a long time store of value with programmed scarcity, and ETH network being quietly used to build the infrastructure layer for RWT. Good luck and have fun

Harfatum

One of my favorite products in crypto is Alchemix - either take self-repaying loans on your ETH or USDC collateral, or get paid (currently excellent) rates on fixed duration bonds that back the other side of the liquidity on the loans. Fully non-liquidatable except in the rare case of the underlying vault taking losses.

Effective-Strike69

You're being downvoted but other than ETH, I agree.

BuiltToSpinback

Same. Then swapped the rest of my ETH for BTC a while back, too

OkRadish2611

Garbage. Another useless ALT. BTC only, maybe little ETH

Fragrant_Change_2497

You've made a good profit, so take 50% and invest in BTC, BNB, or ETH.

yeezy_boost350v2

Outside of BTC I still grab ETH for stacking

Acrobatic-Sea-7514

ETH and BTC are fine, my alt coins are essentially down 95%

P00slinger

I stopped paying much attention to ETH years ago because I moved to Solana. It was already giving me far cheaper transactions, growing usage and, for me, substantially better value growth. So yes, my ETH gas price reference was outdated. Congratulations, you corrected it. None of that required the condescending “how are you so far behind reality?” bullshit. You could’ve just provided the updated numbers like a normal person.

MinimalGravitas

No, not for $50 gas... because Ethereum has scaled massively over the 2+ years since that was true... how are you so far behind reality? Current gas prices for sending ETH are less than a cent, swapping tokens is about $0.06, the most expensive regular thing you can do is minting NFTs, which currently costs about $0.10: https://etherscan.io/gastracker And before you embarrass yourself by claiming that this is because the chain is not being used much, you should probably know that the amount of gas being used is almost at an all-time high: https://etherscan.io/chart/gasused Cool huh? Why do you think you were so far behind in your knowledge?

Psychological_Bug981

Minting increases supply and makes the price harder to move, while burning reduces supply and makes it easier to move the price. Buying and selling cause a spot market’s price to increase or decrease. Multiple spot markets can have price differences, which create arbitrage opportunities between them. Stablecoins mint and burn 1:1 against a backing asset to help maintain a stable price. Non stable coins use various supply, issuance, and burn mechanisms that can make them more or less volatile, but they are not designed to maintain a fixed price. Coins can burn transaction fees to reduce supply and create upward pressure on price. Coins can also be minted to increase supply, either with corresponding backing to help stabilize the price or to be sold into the market, potentially at the expense of existing holders through dilution and additional sell pressure. Order size affects slippage, and the amount a trade moves the price depends on the available liquidity in that particular market. Larger orders consume more of the available bids or asks and therefore tend to produce greater price movement. Only the portion of Bitcoin’s total supply that is actively available to the market directly contributes to its immediate liquidity and price discovery. Coins that are lost, inaccessible, or held without being offered for sale reduce the effective liquid supply, although the entire outstanding supply still matters for valuation and expectations. Ethereum also supports tokens and applications built using its blockchain and development standards. ETH acts as the native asset used to pay gas fees for activity on the network, so demand for blockspace, applications, transactions, and Ethereum based infrastructure can contribute to demand for ETH. Ethereum also burns a portion of transaction fees, while new ETH is issued through its proof of stake system, meaning its net supply changes according to the balance between issuance and burning. CRO’s burn rate is variable and is influenced by transaction fee burns alongside its quarterly burn mechanism.

Citizen_Kano

I've been BTC-only since last year. Most of my alts were sold at pretty heavy losses, except ETH

Zealousideal_Day192

No SOL no ETH no TAO what a shit portfolio

Dablicku

I think you're forgetting that a lot of companies are doing this already through RWA tokenisation + liquidity companies that back them up like Steakhouse, Sentora, RockawayX, etc. Most of which is done on the SOL and ETH chain because there is absolutely no use case for XRP when it has been done a 1000x successfully.

SolidSky

Swapped everything for BTC and ETH a while back.

HoldCtrlW

Easy short on ETH here $1750 target

alien_frontier

Your post 18 days ago: “The answer, 2017. Coinbase was trending and there were only 3 coins to choose from. BTC, ETH, LTC. And I bought LTC first because it was the cheapest full coin option.” You don’t remember your own post because you share your account with other shillers?

JimmySki6166

I swapped ETH & XRP into BTC a few years back. Will only ever hold BTC for crypto! You won’t regret making this move!!

WildNight00

BTC ETH XMR and SOL I still hold but I don’t look at any of them

TechCynical

They don't have to dawg why are we larping crypto 😭😭. This shit is public we can make lists of payment rails, suspected gateway addresses and general referral volume. USDC and the ETH ecosystem completely dominates on chain to real world purchase volume. You are living in a complete bubble if you think Litecoin is surpassing L2's with their stable coins for payments.

blaivas007

XD Solana - ~25.3B transactions in 2026 Q1 alone, over 500x more. XRP - ~2.5M transactions per day, ~15x more. ETH - ~2M/day, ~10x more. BTC - ~750k/day, ~4x more. XD

Fluffy-Insurance-500

I’ve started following a few alternative coins just to diversify. Maybe it’s time to explore beyond BTC and ETH?

liquid_at

The issue you seem to ignore is that LTC is not the only currency out there. Bitcoin is the only artifical-pump-asset that has a high enough market cap to be considered crypto gold. Even in the upper ranks of Crypto, LTC has XRP, Doge and BCH compete as pure payment solutions, while ETH, SOL and TRX also provide functional payment solutions. Even Bitcoin, with the lightning protocol, competes against LTC here. And before the haters come in, this is by no means a qualitative statement. Just that when you want to go for crypto gold, you have bitcoin, bitcoin and bitcoin, while going for payment solutions, there are much more options. You will never find a high concentration like in Bitcoin, in a single one of them.

No-Entrepreneur-2612

If you are new on an exchange, you often can get an additional welcome bonus. BTC and ETH are the best crypto coins to have.

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This is one of the cleanest predictions in the entire archive because: * it was specific, * it had a deadline, * and there was no way to reinterpret it afterwards. **10/10.** He deserves credit for this one. # 3. June 2025 BTC $120k–150k forecast — strong hit On June 29, 2025, he said Bitcoin could reach roughly: **$120,000–$150,000 over the next few months.** BTC subsequently entered that range and eventually traded above $120k. Because his forecast was a **range**, I don't think it's fair to say it failed simply because BTC didn't reach $150k. The lower part of his stated target was reached. **9/10.** # 4. $115k–125k BTC short zone — probably one of his best trades This is one of the more impressive parts of the archive. During August/September 2025 he gradually: * sold spot, * moved into USDT, * and built BTC shorts inside approximately **$115k–125k**. By September 14 he stated that he was effectively: **100% shorts/USDT and 0% spot/stocks.** BTC eventually topped around the upper edge of that area before falling significantly. As a **trading zone**, this was extremely good. **9.5/10.** # But there are significant misses too # ETH $10k–14k prediction This is probably the clearest failure I found. On July 23, 2024, he published a very specific ETH roadmap: * **Q3 2024:** $4,500–5,500 * **Q4 2024:** $5,500–8,000 * **Q1 2025:** $5,500–8,000 * **Q2 2025:** $8,000–14,000 He also explicitly expected: **ETH $10,000–14,000 within one year.** That simply didn't happen. ETH remained dramatically below those targets through the stated periods. Later ETH eventually reached approximately $4,800 in 2025, and that move was heavily celebrated as another successful ETH prediction. But here's why maintaining the original record matters: Calling $4,800 successfully later **does not retroactively make a $10k–14k one-year forecast correct**. Those are different predictions. **Original ETH forecast: 2/10.** # February 2025 ETH call In February 2025, around roughly $2.1k–2.7k ETH, he said February, March and April were ETH's strongest months. He was confident enough to effectively say: **“In two months we will find out.”** ETH instead remained weak and went lower. The bullish thesis was subsequently extended further into 2025, and ETH did eventually rally strongly later. So directionally the longer-term bullish idea eventually worked. But the **specific two-month timing didn't**. I'd score this around: **4/10.** This is an important pattern I've noticed: **His directional instincts can be substantially better than his timing.** # The 2026 recession / stock-market crash call This is probably the single most important failed macro prediction because it had a hard deadline. In September 2025 he argued that a major recessionary / 2008-style crash was coming. More importantly, he didn't just say “eventually.” He said the market had: **maximum time until Q2 2026 — approximately May/June — before the recession broke wide open.** He was still pointing toward June 2026 as the important crash area in May. That deadline passed. The massive crash described in the original prediction did not occur within the stated window. That makes this fundamentally different from saying: > The original prediction was falsifiable. And based on its original terms: **1/10.** The crisis thesis may still eventually prove correct. But if it happens later, that doesn't make the original **“maximum May/June”** prediction correct. That's exactly why I froze the predictions before judging them. # The $145k–150k BTC controversy is more nuanced than I initially thought This one surprised me. At first I thought I had found a pretty major contradiction. On August 24, 2025 he said he expected: 1. a September BTC correction, 2. followed by another rally toward roughly **$145k–150k**. Later he became extremely bearish and described \~$120k as the cycle top. That sounds like hindsight rewriting. Except when I dug deeper into the archive, I found something important: **he actually did publicly cancel the $140k thesis before the later outcome.** By September 10, the $140k move had already become only one possible scenario after the expected $90–94k correction. And on **September 26**, he explicitly wrote that circumstances had changed and: **the $140k target was invalid.** So I don't think it's fair to call this a fake prediction or contradiction. A trader is allowed to change his mind when information changes. In fact, that's usually what a trader *should* do. # But there is still a problem with how this gets remembered later Later he summarizes 2025 roughly as: > That's not completely false. He did pivot and position for the top. But it leaves out an important part of the history: **only weeks earlier, he himself had also been expecting $140k–150k.** The full history is therefore: **bullish $145–150k target** **→ conditions deteriorate** **→ target becomes conditional** **→ target explicitly cancelled** **→ full bearish pivot** **→ $115–125k becomes the major short/top zone** That's actually pretty good adaptive trading. But: > would be a much cleaner story than what really happened. And this distinction is probably the biggest thing people should understand about his content. # Another interesting example: the 2022 $18k BTC bottom DrProfit frequently references his legendary \~$18k Bitcoin bottom call. And to be fair: **it was a good call.** During 2022 he repeatedly bought BTC around $18–20k and called the area the bottom. BTC eventually bottomed around $15.5–16k. Calling $18k from dramatically higher prices is still an impressive macro call in my opinion. I'd personally score it: **7.5/10.** But the complete archive contains another detail I almost never see mentioned. On **June 13, 2022**, while BTC was collapsing, he wrote that although he had previously predicted $18k: **he no longer believed in $18k because too many people were now calling for it.** He subsequently changed his mind again and returned to the $18k thesis. Later he repeatedly bought there. Again: there is nothing inherently wrong with changing your mind. But saying years later: > makes the path sound considerably more linear than it actually was. # Altseason is another case where the reality was more nuanced In December 2024 he strongly announced that: **altseason had begun.** At first I assumed this was another bad call because of how badly many alts subsequently performed. But after checking the market at the exact time of the prediction: he was actually pretty justified. Altcoin-season metrics were very high in early December and many major alts were outperforming BTC. So the original **“altseason is happening now”** call was fairly good. Where it became weaker was the expectation that this would continue into a much larger sustained cycle. I'd give the original call around: **7/10.** # So what is DrProfit actually good at? From everything I've seen so far, I think his strongest abilities are: # Identifying major Bitcoin zones He seems genuinely good at recognizing: * accumulation areas, * distribution areas, * major technical regime changes, * and spots where risk/reward becomes interesting. The $115–125k short area is a good example. # Changing positioning Contrary to what I initially expected, he actually does change his view when the evidence changes. He repeatedly talks about being “like water.” The archive supports that more than I expected. The $140k cancellation is a good example. # Macro narrative construction Some of his macro calls have been excellent. The 50bps Fed prediction was very impressive. Howeve

casiocoin

NFT’s are far from dead, that’s the blueprint as to how we tokenize RWA’s in the short future. I think the old ones will come back when the use case is there for real RWA’s. I’m not heavy into them, just mostly BTC, ETH, some select memes, but I see the potential of individually serialized tokens on a blockchain interfacing with individually serialized assets, I.e. vehicles, real estate, Pokémon graded cards etc. all of those are individually serialized RWA’s that will eventually have a 1:1 NFT proving digital and physical ownership. Want to sell a car, house, sports card? Just receive payment over a blockchain network and transfer the digital RWA (NFT) through defi or exchange, it doesn’t matter. No more 3rd party, DMV, govt land office, probate, estate disputes, NFT’s are now sales contracts for anything, irreversible, timestamped, and can contain additional digital information.

NoBrosCrypto

You mention BTC and ETH as your buys but then mention delisted coins. This sounds like you bought quite a few alts. It also sounds like you bought during the last bull run and bought the highs. Aside from BTC and ETH, and a small minority handful in the top 10 to 20 by market cap, the rest will likely go to zero or become zombie chains. Just stick with BTC and ETH. 90-95% of crypto portfolio and use the remainder for your gambles - because that’s what they are. If they delisted it means volume wasn’t there to justify keeping it listed. That means it’s pretty much dead.

MakCapital

Don't use built in swaps. Takes a second to open a website. Save massively on fees and can control how much loss from target price you're willing to accept. Things like built in wallet swaps or swaps on centralized exchanges like Coinbase are newb traps. Especially on something like MetaMask with Ethereum L1 which is just going to allow sandwiching. Hyperliquid remains best place to trade spot ETH and most crypto. Low fees and real order books with $1 withdraws.

Digital-Exploration

BTC and ETH literally are the only real options. 

ubermensch1001

Anything under 70k I'm a heavy buyer, but I kept this cash I have in reserve for later this fall if the 4 year cycle plays out and we have another slightly lower low. If this doesn't happen, I have no issue buying around these prices, but it would be awesome to buy at the mid 50k range and below. Your thoughts pertaining to Solana are something I've kept on the back of my mind. I'm aware of the shutdowns with that chain, and as the other poster on here mentioned that is a bit of a red flag. What attracted to me to it is that it mirrors ETH very closely but has slightly more potential to the upside while offering pretty generous staking yields. I'm just not really that excited about ETH and when it comes to buying that or BTC I am way more interested in buying the BTC. I had a solid stack going into 2021 that I held onto for a while but I ended up converting that over to BTC way back in early 2024. I spent months thinking about it, but with it trading close to .06 to BTC and with the possibility of it crashing hard it was a no brainer. Fast forward to spring of 2025, just over a year later, it was trading at under .02 to BTC at under $1400. I ended up making a lump sum purchase there that I'm still holding, but at current valuation I'm just not that interested. I really am leaning towards throwing these funds I have 100% into BTC. This was my strategy way back in 2022 when I was buying at 20k and under at around the 200 week moving average, which are right at now. My biggest mistake with 2018-2020 was being too heavily invested into alts, I got away with it at the time though because everything was so cheap AND we had that very impressive 2021 alt season. We basically had no alt season in 2024-2025, but there's a part of me that thinks because everyone has given up on them we actually see this play out in 2027 or 2028, as big money has been scooping them up while retail panic sells. This is a big reason why I want to just hold what I currently have instead of flipping stuff around. I'm way ahead of the curve and honestly kind of forget about this at times. The reality is that I have more than enough and won't miss a damn thing.

TheresNoSecondBest

>The Genesis Block — Block #0, mined on January 3, 2009. The Genesis block wasn't mined, it was created. That's the reason why Satoshi made the **50 BTC reward of that block non spendable**. The block could be created only by himself and it would be unfair to the rest of the, at that time nonexistent, network. Vitalik for example, created 72,009,995 ETH in the Genesis block of his shitcoin. **All spendable**. Do you see the difference between a genius and a scammer?

tequilawhiteclaws

I'm with ya. Was a cardano maxi, sorta still bullish but theyve got a massive branding problem even if the tech is good. It's probably a 3rd world governance + rwa platform eventually. BTC is all brand. 99% of use cases will be ETH + LINK + Google/Apple running private wallets on your phone

sylsau

**Russia just exposed Bitcoin’s most dangerous feature.** Not scarcity. Not volatility. Not mining. **Exit.** Moscow is opening the door to Bitcoin, ETH, and USDT. But ordinary Russians will face limits on how much crypto they can buy through regulated intermediaries. Why? Because Russia wants crypto’s power… without fully accepting crypto’s freedom. Bitcoin is useful when sanctions threaten Russian trade. Stablecoins are useful when traditional payment rails fail. **Crypto is useful when Moscow wants financial sovereignty from Washington.** **But when citizens want monetary sovereignty from Moscow?** Suddenly, limits appear. That is the paradox. Governments love Bitcoin when it weakens **someone else’s** financial control. They become much less comfortable when it weakens **their own**. And Bitcoin doesn’t care. No nationality. No investor classification. No central bank. No annual purchase limit written into the protocol. Russia can regulate the gateways. It cannot rewrite Bitcoin. **Russia wants Bitcoin’s power without Bitcoin’s freedom.** That contradiction tells us where the real battle over money is heading.

JamieMc23

Terms in this thread a newby would have to learn: - Metamask - ETH/Ethereum - USDT - ETH/USDT Pool - Block/Block Explorer - Cold Wallet - Unguessable String - Dexes - Transaction Hashes - Liquidity Pool - Slippage/Slippage Range - Trade Size Impact - Odos/Matchaswap/Llamaswap/Cowswap - Limited Routing - dApps - MEV Bots (squeezing) - Rango/Shapeshift - Wallet Connections - USDC - Route/Price/Fixed Fee - Swaps - Limit Order - CEX/DEX - Dedillama/Defi Swap Site - Dec Aggregator - Gas Fees - Route Swap - Built-in Defi Activity - Rubic Plugin - WETH - Rabby That's literally just this thread. I'm around crypto a long time without ever getting too into it and I wouldn't be 100% on a lot of that. There is literally no hope of mass adoption while it looks like this and while there's no safety net. You may understand it because you're deeply into it, but it's a mess. Again - I'm pro crypto.

ubermensch1001

If I would swap to ETH with my ada I would just put it into Bitcoin, eth isn't going to make massive gains. Asking about Solana here, not Link.

Efficient_Range1156

With the exception of ETH and USDT, there is no such thing as a quality alt.

universe_pound

That’s a strong thesis. I think the next cycle could be much more selective—BTC/ETH absorbing institutional liquidity while a smaller group of real-utility, revenue-generating alts outperform and low-quality tokens fade.

whataboutbenson

I don’t want to tell you not to buy SOL, but to me it seems to be quite a shoddy chain. It’s had a lot of down time over the years and I think the team are not very discerning about what the chain is used for, eg scamcoins. I just don’t see it having a very long term future like I do BTC or ETH. The price may very well go up in the next few years though.

ubermensch1001

Yeah, man, I'm not particularly excited about ETH and this why I'm not buying it right now, would rather just stack sats.

whataboutbenson

BTC is the only one worth owning tbh. I have ETH as well but it doesn’t perform.

Previous_Valuable873

XMR is the only true crypto. Look at it's performance compared to BTC in the last year. SOL, ADA, ETH, all joke. https://preview.redd.it/z0kuiwftykjh1.png?width=1099&format=png&auto=webp&s=e9da501148f3ec0c39d4ea88e0bcd00c5530b000

ubermensch1001

Right, criticize the person who was buying ETH at $100 and Bitcoin below 10k lol.

Ss_priest

You don’t sound like you want SOL, you sound like you want a reason to stay 100% BTC. That’s not nothing. If the ETH position already doesn’t excite you, adding a third alt you’d have to babysit might just be more to manage, not more upside. SOL’s a real network with real usage, but at 75-80% BTC and “not in a rush,” the simplest answer is usually the one you keep.

ubermensch1001

I'm assuming you meant to reply to me here. This is exactly why I lean towards just being 100% BTC with the remaining funds and locking in those sats. I already have solid positions in both ETH and ADA, which I've been holding for a long time now, so I have plenty in the alts.

ubermensch1001

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. I actually considered getting ETH but really not that excited about it compared to just buying BTC. SOL I think has slightly more upside potential relative to ETH with regards to it's BTC pairing. Really leaning towards just 100% BTC though with these funds.

ubermensch1001

Stuff like this is kind of why I lean towards just buying BTC. What I like about Solana is the fact that it has staking rewards AND because it has a lot of interest from tradfi institutions. For instance, it's one of only 3 offered on E-Trade, other 2 being BTC and ETH. Not saying there won't be others, but it's obviously a relevant player.

Klutzy-Sea-4857

SPX is a pure meme with no utility, just vibes and wishful thinking about flipping the S&P. Can it pump? Sure. Can it dump 90%? Also sure. If you want gains, put around 10% in memes and the rest in BTC/ETH. Do not yolo your entire stack into a meme late in the cycle.

Klutzy-Sea-4857

You bought BTC and ETH, those are not getting delisted. What altcoins did you actually buy? It sounds like you chased pumps. DCA into BTC and ETH only, forget the shitcoins, and wait 2+ years. Crypto is not hard, patience is.

No-Average3202

Honestly I'd put Bitcoin in its own category. Everything else, including ETH, SOL, whatever's fighting for the "ETH killer" spot this cycle, feels like gambling to me dressed up as investing. BTC is different. It's been through multiple cycles at this point, there's an actual track record, and it keeps coming back. I'm personally 100% BTC for that reason, no cap. Real question isn't "will it come back" tbh, it's "do you still believe in this stuff or not." If you don't believe in the alts anymore, sell and move into something you actually believe in, no shame in that. If it's BTC you're holding, it's just a waiting game at this point. Don't rush it, winters don't last forever. I've got full confidence we see new highs on Bitcoin again. Can't say the same for the rest of the space though.

Fortune_Donut7432

You can't compare NFT and crypto. May be memecoin, but is the trend totally over ? BTC, ETH, SOL, damn, even XRP, but there is way more, are still alive, no matter the downtrend. NFTs were a shortlived trend. Bear markets are frightful moments. It is temporary.

diradder

An ETH/USDT pool... not able to support a $20k trade without 4% slippage? I don't know where OP traded exactly but most pools on Ethereum for these two assets can easily deal with this amount with less than 1% slippage. MetaMask is notorious for higher fees and limited routing (wouldn't put beyond them to actually use pool they have MEV bots squeezing)... prefer dApps like ShapeShift or Rango, you can connect most wallets to them, they will aggregate the best quotes using popular routers with enough liquidity, and will be much more transparent with fees/slippage.

Leather-Cod2129

Why convert all (including bitcoin) to usdc then move? Instead of converting all but ETH and BTC to usdc, then move usdc + bitcoin + eth ?

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sintic22

**Swapping 12 ETH through a wallet's built-in feature without checking the slippage is a crazy expensive lesson. Next time, just use Uniswap or 1inch directly.⁠**

JDB-667

All this means is that we are close. The exact signal or moment hasn't tripped, yet. Probably like it generally does in these scenarios, it needs a trap - something to catch bears stepping offsides - and some macro event to trigger a new bull run. But you are correct. I see you also noting ETH - which I agree should outperform.

Mr_Footies

Polymarket is literally on the Polygon blockchain and uses the USDC stablecoin. It’s a massive crypto success story. Recently Robinhood launch an Ethereum L2 using native ETH as gas. It’s already going billions in daily trading volume, successfully bootstrapping a new DEX from scratch. Crypto evolves.

sylsau

**Russia just exposed Bitcoin’s most dangerous feature.** Not scarcity. Not volatility. Not mining. **Exit.** Moscow is opening the door to Bitcoin, ETH, and USDT. But ordinary Russians will face limits on how much crypto they can buy through regulated intermediaries. Why? Because Russia wants crypto’s power… without fully accepting crypto’s freedom. Bitcoin is useful when sanctions threaten Russian trade. Stablecoins are useful when traditional payment rails fail. **Crypto is useful when Moscow wants financial sovereignty from Washington.** **But when citizens want monetary sovereignty from Moscow?** Suddenly, limits appear. That is the paradox. Governments love Bitcoin when it weakens **someone else’s** financial control. They become much less comfortable when it weakens **their own**. And Bitcoin doesn’t care. No nationality. No investor classification. No central bank. No annual purchase limit written into the protocol. Russia can regulate the gateways. It cannot rewrite Bitcoin. **Russia wants Bitcoin’s power without Bitcoin’s freedom.** That contradiction tells us where the real battle over money is heading.

Timely-Fig2030

Last but not least: There is a big difference if people say it's dead and it's dead for real because everything sucks and their tech is fake VS it's dead, but it has mind bending and groundbreaking technology. Then you know it's not dead. Solana was considered dead, but got the memecoins utilized and that's why it recovered. Now you have ICP and people call it dead, but it has a much bigger narrative brewing. A narrative as powerful as ETH once had with smartcontracts. Even bigger than that.

Worldx22

BTC is lower than a year ago. Convert everything except BTC ETH and maybe SOL to USDC. Send to Kraken. Wait. That's if you don't need the cash now.

FTuno

ETH, SOL, SUI, TRX, BNB. also HYPE works until it doesn't

Elendron

Converted a load to ETH on Monday. It's pumping little bits since while ETH does nothing... The ultimate BS thing is that Link was at my cost basis while I set my LINK/ETH order, then it wicked down, filled, and now I have a tiny capital loss to report. This market shows no mercy.

ubermensch1001

ETH is solid, but at roughly .03 to BTC when it peaked at .085 in 2021 I don't think there are massive moves for that compared to BTC. Maybe a 2 or 2.5x compared to BTC when there is the potential for this not to happen makes want to just buy the primary asset instead.

Timely-Fig2030

ICP supports Bitcoin, Solana and ETH natively through chain fusion technology. So you can even use ICP and keep your old favs.

Leather-Cod2129

Thanks a lot. Convert all to USDC even my BTC ETH etc. ? And whats the less stupid thing to do if i dont need those 265 euros now? convert all to BTC and wait for year? or i could loose even more? thanks

Timely-Fig2030

BTC = 1st financial blockchain ETH = 1st to implement smart contracts ICP = 1st world computer

Timely-Fig2030

Okay, then i recommend you to checkout the Internet Computer Protocol. (ICP) Everyone says it's dead, but when you look at the tech you will be sucked into the rabbit hole. This thing went from 2021 centralized pump and dump (FTX perps and seed investor dump) to a decentralized world computer, that has become truly decentralized through the NNS. Seed investors have dumped long ago and everyone is underwater. Most fail to see the potential because of it. I can see it though. There is only 1 world computer. BTC led to ETH. ETH will lead to ICP.

ubermensch1001

Yeah, man, that is a very good point. I kind of see it as something more comparable to ETH now where it can slightly outperform it but not to some massive degree. For instance, ETH peaked at 5k last year while SOL was at a around $250. As I'm writing this, ETH is at just under $1900 and SOL is at $75, so to go to the highs from last year you are looking at a roughly 2.5x for ETH and a little less than a 3.5x for SOL. I'm not saying ETH or SOL are dead or won't perform well, but there may be other alts that have easier potential for large returns OR to where you may just be better off buying BTC.

Suitable_Acadia_190

Not 100%. I play the macro flows & the rotation cycles, when it starts its always been ETH to move before LINK. I mean Solana is great and will grow massively as well, just different scales of tradfi adoption and that's where the real capitol will come from so anything more directly attached to that has reason to grow the fastest and the most.