ETH

Django_McFly

The only place that Ether (ETH) is natively issued is the Ethereum blockchain. All Ethereum that's any place other than Ethereum L1 (Robinhood Chain <> Ethereum L2) is wrapped/bridged ETH.

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diradder

In practice, I've had way more delays/issues on THORChain than on ChainFlip personally (mainly trading to acquire BTC). On a technology/market level, THORChain pools pair every supported asset with RUNE (a BTC-to-ETH swap effectively passes through BTC/RUNE and RUNE/ETH internally) when Chainflip executes swaps through its virtual just in time AMM (automated market marker) where orders are processed on its State Chain and settled using native assets held in protocol vaults. As I said before I had a better time on ChainFlip in terms of delays, and fees remain reasonable but I've mainly used them through ShapeShift which generally has lower fees than ThorSwap (and supports both chains, and more).

HoldCtrlW

$1900 hard rejection for ETH looks like it's heading to $1750

mcpickems

If you started out with stating BTC and ETH was 90% of your portfolio my response would have been differenr

iothewispp

lol does it matter? BTC + ETH still like 90% of my portfolio and these altcoins are just optional profit, i really dont care if they are "red"

SaraTalbotAU

Robinhood Chain is its own EVM network with its own native gas token, so the ETH you see there is actually the WETH ERC-20 contract, not native ETH. You can't unwrap it to native ETH because that chain doesn't have any - check the chain's native currency in your network settings.

derbyfan1

Stopped reading at "Excluding BTC and ETH..."

BN_Boi

ETH

jkl2035

I did some Research in that - imho the big chains will be able to migrate - think ETH will be faster than BTC, in the quantum pure area I think QRL is the most serious approach but super small/niche

Ypsn

I would go with 80% BTC, 10-15% ETH and 4-10% LINK Maybe link and eth will not be used to tokenize stocks markets but im convinced that their chains will be used. That said I'm no expert, just a dude watching some stuff on the internet

iothewispp

top 5 biggest market cap: BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP, TRX. Sell small alts first when it pump, BTC and ETH can wait.

thuishaven

BTC, ETH, SOL, HYPE for majors XMR, ZEC, MORPHO, SKY, RUJI for alts I also recommend 30% of portfolio in market making products like jlp or hlp. 

LedeniCaj22

Kaspa would be my pick outside of BTC/ETH. The tech angle is what got me in: it’s a proof-of-work chain using a BlockDAG structure instead of a single blockchain, so it can process blocks in parallel rather than sequentially. That gives it way higher throughput than traditional PoW coins without giving up decentralization the way a lot of “fast chain” alt L1s do… I’ve been DCA-ing into it for a while now with a set exit plan rather than just holding blindly, since it’s still a small-cap and can be brutal in drawdowns. But for a 3-year hold, low market cap + real technical differentiation + still PoW (so it fits the “relatively low risk by crypto standards” framing) is the combo I’m betting on. *Not financial advice, obviously, just why it’s in my bag.*\*

igoldring

The holy trinity of BTC, ETH, XMR. Please don’t listen to BTC maxis attempting to convince you it is BTC or nothing.

SallyYoung1

Why would you buy an ETH etf and also ETH? Surely just choose one or the other... And even then, why an ETF when you can gain direct exposure?

fan_of_hakiksexydays

25% actual BTC 30% BTC ETF 10% actual ETH 15% ETH ETF 10% BTC perp long 5% ETH perp long 5% ADA perp long

UC_DiscExchange

90% BTC 10% ETH. I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. After a decade in crypto the longer I go the more I become a Bitcoin maxi. There are no fundamentally valuable alts.

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melch_18

Depends on your goal, here's what I'd recommend after 6+ years working FT and investing in the crypto industry. \- safer and long term holds: go with the big names, BTC, ETH, SOL, SUI (not XRP, Cardano, they're dead) \- riskier, shorter hold, higher upside: find a project that's about to launch, get involved in their community and get in early. Or look for well funded projects in the 200 - 400 market cap listing on coingecko .com (expect it to go to zero) These are very early startups, very young, very risky. Not advice but Euclid Protocol is one of my favorite projects that we've worked with for years and will launch in 1 - 2 months.

Ladlow

Probably BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP (Larger market cap coins with institutional support). Do some research and go with the one you have the most conviction on.

winphan

I would stick to BTC/ETH/SOL. Those actually have *low risk tolerance.*

Subject-Wrongdoer812

Posting this as a factual timeline with screenshots, not as an accusation draw your own conclusions. 1. BingX ran a promo giving me a Position Voucher: 200 USDT position value, max 5x leverage, position auto-closes after 24h, no fees, restricted to designated pairs (BTC, ETH, XRP, DOGE, SOL, BNB, GBPAUD, DOWJONES, CADJPY). 2. I used the voucher as intended within the app's own rules opened a position on one of the listed pairs, no manual workaround or exploit, just used the feature the way it was presented. 3. Shortly after, my account got restricted. In-app notice cited "account anomaly" / unusual activity, with trading, bonus claims, new-user rewards, and event participation all blocked. [screenshot 1] 4. Got an email asking to reply with a video of myself holding my ID reading a specific script, to "lift the restriction." This came as a plain email reply request rather than through the in-app verification flow, so I did not respond to it directly. [screenshot 2] 5. Follow-up email confirmed: "earnings obtained through violations have been deducted (including: 16.59 USDT)," and some account functions remained restricted. [screenshot 3] 6. First withdrawal attempt (65.34 USDT) came back "Failed to pass review." [screenshot 4] 7. No open disputes remain I've since submitted an account deletion request.

IndependentPear1212

I like ETH, and now ETH has brought me wealth.

farcry_x1z

When ETH finally decides to pump, LINK will go parabolic

VarsityCop

Same here. Have my sell orders set around previous ATH’s for both BTC and ETH. Can’t wait to wipe my hands fully clean and transition to 100% VOO/VGT

Fit_Spite_4389

Same here, I requested a payment in ETH from LuckyCircus and Travel Rule was applied, so my money blocked. Did you solved?

MrCalabunga

I mean, I thought this was obvious? Just take a look at the charts around and after his meme coins came out. BTC was at an ATH, ETH was hovering around $3,500, then about a week or two after $TRUMP launches crypto starts receding and has yet to recover? What a weird coincidence.

WindClanSeminole

What is ETH gas and how does one make money on it?

HoldCtrlW

$1900 ETH rejected, looking to go lower \~$1750

NaiveMercury

Dude this is 100 bucks. I know you are from India, but this is a small amount even by indian standards. Stick to BTC (maybe ETH) and stocks and move on.

Ok-While-1160

Passing clarity allows massive amounts of institutional inflow into crypto, aside from ETP and pension flows. The analysis below doesn’t even account for the potential that tokenization will bring for real world asset and securities markets generally. For starters, putting asset custody, segregation, risk metrics, capital requirements, etc on exchange platforms eliminates a large percentage of the perceived risk around the industry which was garnered from the FTX/Celsius gambit years ago. Moreover, most banks currently will not use digital assets for defined banking activities in part because the law is ambiguous or doesn’t allow it, and capital metrics and accounting make doing so more or less impossible. Additionally large market makers, brokers, dealers, etc. will start to process trading in crypto assets in a similar way that they do now for other assets. This will rely in part on value generation from real world use. But we’re already seeing stablecoins, BTC and ETH be used for collateral and margining positions by CFTC regulated intermediaries. Remember crypto is 24/7 unlike tradfi. If traditional whales can make money between 5pm-9am using crypto, you bet they’ll play around. Lastly, Bitcoin has historically served as the primary gateway and liquidity anchor for the crypto market. Expanding legitimate use cases and institutional participation across the ecosystem could create additional demand across digital assets generally. A rising tide does not lift every boat equally, but greater adoption of the asset class as a whole is likely positive for the strongest networks. If regulatory clarity increases demand from institutions while available liquid supply remains relatively constrained, even incremental institutional allocation can have an outsized impact on price. This is the same basic dynamic that contributed to strong market reactions around the approval of spot Bitcoin ETPs: a new pool of demand entered a market with limited readily available supply. Obviously the caveat is that regulation alone does not guarantee price appreciation. It creates the conditions for broader participation; actual price impact depends on whether institutions allocate capital, how much they allocate, and broader macro conditions. But Clarity at least creates the market environment to drive allocation.

anymonero

But ETH alone is already 50x the market cap of LTC not to mention total market cap of all the tokens on ETH. Litecoin's ratio is much more impressive.

Laui02

Think of ETH or SOL like fuel. It provides a base. People can use it to produce energy and provide important services. They could also put it into a tank & harm people. It doesn't chance the fuels importance. The memecoins are shady af, but thats not only a SOL problem. Its just more used for this kind of shit , because of cheaper , faster settlement

mdeeebeee-101

Guy that just sold ETH low the bought high with all the data analytics at hand ?

MadSL1m

The friction you're describing is the thing the industry already gave up on solving. Merchant acceptance never really arrived, so the payment layer that works is still the old one. Of the 138 live crypto cards I track, 137 run on Visa or Mastercard. That's the whole trick. No address to fumble, no app switching, and 115 of them sit in Apple Pay. The merchant just sees a normal card. What it doesn't fix is the fee, it hides it better. The cost moves into the conversion spread at the till, and most issuers keep that off the pricing page. In the US there's a second catch: every swipe is technically a sale of crypto, so paying with ETH logs a gain on a coffee. Funding with stablecoins keeps that near zero. So the blocker isn't wallet UX. It's that nobody accepts crypto, and cards are the workaround everyone quietly settled for. Fee and custody breakdown is on my own site: [sweepbase.net/cards](http://sweepbase.net/cards)

b1mm3rl1f3

If it does, I'm buying. Summer of ETH, then summer in st Tropez

HoldCtrlW

Easy short on ETH going down to $1750

Consistent-Gold-7572

Yeah I conceded that ETH will be used by agents. They are currently making money creating and selling NFTS to other agents

No_Knee3385

To use stablecoins you need ETH. The demand for the usage of Ethereum impacts ETH

PuzzleheadedBell4057

I have the same allocation - 80% stocks (mainly broad market ETF), 20% crypto. The 20% crypto allocation contains 10 different coins with BTC and ETH accounting for half the allocation (30% and 20% respectively). I'm old fashion - I believe diversification is key to risk adjusted out-sized returns.

Backieotamy

Due to sheer luck & timing on when I got into ETH and SOL, primarily; Crypto actually makes up about 2/3 of mine.

HoldCtrlW

0% chance we go higher on ETH. $1900 is hard rejection

Dream_Catcher__

I',m not sure either. I asked Claude what it thought and might be someone trying to launder my money in ETH.

Gooner_93

I remember transferring some ETH from my cold wallet to an exchange, a minute later, a scammer sent a very small amount of ETH to try and get me to fall for address poisoning. I always verify the address everytime, so it wasnt an issue. Scammers really are pathetic/scum of the earth and crypto is the wild wild west, at the moment.

fishing_boobies

Thanks for Sharing. I've had my nano with cold wallet ETH address for almost 10 years, and 3 or 4 months ago I moved some crypto over to my hot wallet \\ metamask for the first time in a long time. Almost instantly my cold wallet address suddenly had micro transactions from what I thought was my metamask wallet. addresses was very identical to my metamsk. It was late at night and I thought I accidently moved eth back from my meta mask. Was in the middle of copying the spoof address getting to move eth back when I realized I never signed that transaction.. Took a closer look and yup, it wasn't my meta mask address. Everytime I take some out from my original Cold wallet these fake addresses pop up. I've been super careful all these years but I can't help but feel one day they will get me some how.

majorkeycapital

https://preview.redd.it/jzzhaxat5khh1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=497ac2818606cbaf46c43bf243671d36df2f37d5 I think the easiest way to think about any potential recovery in crypto right now, is this: the entire crypto market has been diverging into three categories. 1. The first category is memecoins, that have ever been so chased after by the trenches, with some people gotten really lucky and millions more trying to repeat their success that’s often been stemming from insider knowledge or simply luck. 2. Then there are actual on-chain businesses that have either recently been emerged (e.g. CARDS, etc) or are already well-established (e.g. AAVE, UNI, etc) and have ongoing developments around accruing value to their token much like a tokenized equity. There is still no regulatory framework around that and so most of their price performance hinges on the market trusting their promise. But there are still unclear questions on how the value is being distributed with some calling for full token buybacks, while others say cashflows are enough. 3. The last and most established category is the standalone infrastructure itself, resembling much more digital economies with their tokens acting as digital commodities (e.g. ETH, SOL, etc). I think this is were the market is most confused and their lies great opportunity ahead, due to their established size and predictability of cycles. In my view the most reliable method to value these tokens are on their fundamental demand based on fees/flows. Anyone looking solely at token burns, TVL, active wallet counts etc, is missing the forest for the trees. I think the best shot at a broad market recovery comes at looking at the tokens of these big, digital economies, such as ETH. If you’re long enough in crypto, you know that this has always produced the most healthiest rallies and market conditions. Right now it’s not looking like that, but the flows are dynamic and subject to change in a daily/weekly basis. Here’s a screenshot of custom-built software around that and it’s suffice to say that we still have to see flows picking up further to reliably call a market bottom. But I am personally very excited and bullish for the next 18-24 months.

Tedious-Butcher

Ran out of btc. No worries. I paying a lower level thug in ETH to slap that person of yours that slapped my BTC contractor.

Due_Difference_1412

I agree that SOL probably has more upside than BTC and ETH. However, its volatility and unpredictability are also much higher. Network stability, ecosystem competition, and overall market sentiment can all have a significant impact on its price. For me, investing isn't just about chasing the highest returns—it's about finding the right balance between risk and reward. That's why my current focus is on short-term futures trading. I prefer to manage risk through strategy rather than relying solely on the long-term potential of a single coin

InsightKnite

They both have some of the lowest multipliers in terms of return. Neither of those coins are getting more than a 3x and that is absolute best case scenario. Hell even SOL can hit a 4.5x on it's best day. A far better ROI than BTC or ETH.

HoldCtrlW

Looks like hard ETH rejection at $1900. Betting we'll go to $1750 first as there is 0 chance we're going higher

BillIsrael710

I feel like an idiot as well. I have never been scammed in my entire life. Only had 1ETH but it is gone. Same thing happened to me. Haven’t touched my Ledger in a while. Got an email last week that I need to update it. I also bought a new laptop without Ledger Live installed. I simply googled ledger Live download and clicked the first link. It said it’s updating and then I needed to input 24 word passcode to continue. I completely own up to my mistake but still can’t believe how good they are getting.

Alimakakos

New highs and new lows being set for BTC and ETH SOL and a few other non shit coins too...

l0rd_raiden

Lol using news 2 years old when the fud was all over the place. You are a little bit outdated, a lot have happend. Poor haters. https://cryptorank.io/news/feed/3081c-clarity-act-clears-key-hurdle-as-senate-vote-odds-jump-to-72-before-august-deadline https://pluang.com/en/news-feed/volumen-spot-dex-solana-lebih-besar-dari-cex-besar-kedua-setelah-binance https://coinmarketcap.com/academy/article/doublezero-brings-wall-street-data-speed-to-solana https://cryptonews.net/news/altcoins/33231195/ And remember if another chain would be faster and cheaper meme coins would move there... As they were once on ETH, some of them still are.

etan1

Because staked ETH is what secures the network. So if network TVL grows, so has the underlying security. Otherwise you have the Polymarket situation where POL is worth less than the bet volume, and UMA (the token needed to resolve what side won) has an even lower cap. It just takes one billionaire to realize that and the entire thing can be taken over.

ThreeTonChonker

The result of events like this is that people realize the problem isn’t Bitcoin, it’s the products surrounding Bitcoin. If the hackers had only stolen Ethereum, would that mean the death of ETH? No. It means BTC is scarce, valuable, and requires defense. Thus the price reflects that and if anything it will go up.

MinimalGravitas

The idea is ultimately to onboard the entire traditional financial world to settle Ethereum, both on L1 like Blackrock, Fidelity, UBS, JP Morgan etc are doing, and on rollups, like Deutsche Bank, Robinhood , Sony and LG are doing. https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum/ Then even though each individual transaction will be cheap, there will be so many of them that the total fees, and therefore the amount of ETH being burned will be high. It's easy to see how this works for L1 fees (as we have already had examples of deflationary periods) but it's less intuitive to picture how many transactions that would need on rollups (L2s), so there is a useful tool at https://github.com/blue-yard/ethereum-blob-simulator which models how this could play out. For reference the ecosystem (L1 + L2s) is currently settling about 5k transactions per second (https://www.growthepie.com/ethereum-ecosystem/metricsand) the peak today was 26.8k TPS. The all time high was the 29th of January this year, with a burst throughput of 75,862 transactions in a second.

Illustrious-Option-9

Why should it go up though? I mean, technically, why should ETH go up if it's adopted by more and more institutions? Just FOMO, popularity, greater fool theory, or is there something backed into the the ETH / smart contracts that natively drives the ETH price up the more it's adopted. Genially asking this. Like, one could say that the more it's adopted, the more fees are generated, but ETH has made already good progress to lower the fees, and their roadmap is to have like $0.001 per transaction. So then what is there left to push the price up (apart from FOMO and greater fool theory).

mss413

yep, those are the tokens on ETH. make sure buy/own the coin version for pepe the frog. we may see the mc from tokens to shift over to the coin version. [pepecoin.com](http://pepecoin.com)

TCr0wn

It’s a shitcoin on ETH.

green4mi

Apologies, forgot to state that the transactions are on the ETH mainnet.

Longjumping-Pop7512

You want honest verdict ? With the current implementation none. BTC is not problem solving chain it's more of store of value much like gold. It's worth is what people agree to spend. More like a rare commodity.  For any industrial use it's already to expensive. ETH and similar are trying to bring intrinsic values by running smart contract ( pay fee for execution of the smart contract ), but again too expensive for large scale real world execution.  Crypto is in limbo and the problem is; if your blockchain does not generate revenue it doesn't get traction or adoption and if it generates revenue it becomes too expensive for real world mass adoption. Anyway, first the tech need to be made smooth for general purpose use and bad actors needed to be weeded out ( the casino makers, useless L1 chains, false promises etc). I think the best one not yet invented which will solve the “crypto limbo” — bring intrinsic value while being affordable. 

Gossipmang

The problem with alt coins is the only useful thing they have ever done is offer a cheaper way to move BTC and ETH around when gas is high. They literally don't do anything but offer speculation. After 10+ years of multiple generations of investors being burned, its just not worth it. You can get the same returns with less risk from the stock market.

byylu

TL;DR Memetic / Pepecoin (2016) – The original Pepe coin launched in 2016 as Memetic and later rebranded to Pepecoin. There were concerns about the first few blocks, where roughly 500k coins were mined. Years later, due to low mining activity, the project migrated to Ethereum. PEPE (ETH) – The largest Pepe project by market cap. Launched about two years ago as an Ethereum token. There have been wallet-freezing controversies, and while token burns were promised, there hasn't been much news about them for over a year. Pepecoin (Pepecoin.com / $PEP) – Launched in January 2024 as a fair-launch Layer 1 blockchain with no premine and no VC funding. Development and listings are community-funded. The network is secured through merged mining with Litecoin and Dogecoin, giving it the security of the Scrypt mining ecosystem.

Substantial-Word4466

Depends on what you undestand as original, almost all are tokens hosted by L1 chains like ETH or SOL Only one is still L1 and it's $PEP

Altruistic-Parsnip-4

There are two. $PEPE is an Ethereum ERC-20 token that requires ETH for network fees, whereas $PEP is an independent Layer 1 blockchain based on PoW.

alterise

In a currency exchange? I doubt it. This wasn’t a transfer. This was a swap from BTC to ETH.

USMNT_superfan

Swapping BTC to ETH now? LOL

Dry-Pop-7635

Im calling it now. BTC 50k bottom. ETH 1.4k

VendettaKarma

Personally, I abandoned most when MOONS and NFTs on Reddit were rugged. If you can’t trust a community and an app like this, what can you trust? I agree with you OP. Theres no way unless society collapses that people will be using any kind of crypto to pay for anything. There’s no development, all of the projects and white papers amount to nothing but rugs and massive investor losses. 90% of the public thinks crypto is a scam. And.. are they wrong? BTC, ETH and to an extent SOL (due to ease of use) will be what’s left and it’ll only be used to dupe people like a stock that people buy below a certain point, wait for FOMO, then dump on unwitting new retail investors. There will never be another “alt season,” and the cycles are all broken. Crypto could’ve had the impact AI did, it was just held back and ruined by criminals, rug pullers and scammy influencers who took their bags and ran. I sometimes see old crypto TikTok people , who have moved on and do different things. They all deny they were ever even involved at all .

Tedious-Butcher

TYO is up by 136% from 5 years ago. It is now down by 20% from ath. With japan yen volatility that is still ongoing. I fear for japan future. ETH and other crypto are on the front line to be the first to reach a new ath. Just a matter of time.

Tedious-Butcher

Everyone mock btc and ethereum for its volatility. But look at the other first world countries stock exchange. Down between 6% to 50%. Except US. I am convinced ETH will bounce back up strongly when times are good again. Just a matter of time. Tbh, the risk reward is very much worth it at this point.

MushrooGuy

Look at ETH go https://preview.redd.it/0b4qfk4dh2hh1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb7783990a4096bfb3f438535656e675a1cde619

NeonMaxi

The point is not to trade the nonsense meme shit we crated. That was more or less the proof of concept but not the point. The point is to trade tokenized assets on chain that are representative of actual equity and issued in a way that is transparent and verifiable from any participant within any aspect of the system. Removing trusted intermediaries and replacing them with verifiable code. Deploying protocols whose immutable rules keep their users honest in a world of dishonest actors. We don’t need thousands of L1 chains to achieve this. Ethereum seems to be the favored platform and so I stick to that. I also enjoy when a DAO runs as its own L1 ecosystem like Fraxal or maybe HDX? But stick to ETH if your not sure what the use case is

MushrooGuy

Oh yes... Look at ETH dominating the rwa scene... Oh wait that's Canton https://preview.redd.it/ghg5g78xe2hh1.jpeg?width=2101&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87fcce8beb11589167a2a2ad50f682cd630c3ff2

Typical-Snow3034

Hey. CoinRabbit team here. A promotional rate is not automatically fraudulent, but 14% on BTC or ETH cannot be evaluated from the APY and lock period alone. The first question is where the yield comes from. It could be funded temporarily from a marketing budget, generated through lending, depend on another protocol, involve asset reuse or apply only to a small capped balance. “Regulated” also needs context. Registration to provide crypto services does not necessarily mean deposited assets receive the protections of a bank deposit. At CoinRabbit, we make the custody side explicit: customer balances are held with 100% reserves and assets are not rehypothecated. That does not make yield risk-free, but reserves, asset reuse, custody and withdrawal terms are exactly the details a platform should disclose before the advertised APY means much.

HoldCtrlW

Easy short on ETH here. $1600 is rejected.

igoldring

“Council membership is governed by the Hedera Council LLC Agreement, signed by members upon admittance to Hedera Council.” - https://hederacouncil.org/about Maybe read the actual website or keep coping? Hedera Council LLC is quite literally registered under Delaware and the governing body is operated through an agreement. “While Hedera’s code now benefits from the stewardship and vast resources of the Linux Foundation, the operational governance of the Hedera network remains with the Hedera Council.” - https://hedera.com/blog/introducing-hiero-the-foundation-of-the-future/ Donating code to an open-source project does not transfer mainnet network control, node validator permissioning, or operational governance away from the Hedera Council LLC. Also that was posted by their president. How can you have a president of a project and call it decentralized loool you’re a fucking idiot. 😭😭😭 Genuinely a simple Google search refutes your points but Hedera fanboys like yourself are going to go into a psychosis attempting to explain its “decentralization” and how it’s “better than ETH.” You also continue to ignore key points I’ve made on how Hedera IS NOT decentralized even though that was the basis of my argument. It’s not the future and it isn’t decentralized, cope harder.

Historical_Quail_463

​BTC for digital property rights, XMR for private p2p payments, and ETH for global stablecoin rails. ​Every other shiny L1 is basically competing to be a faster casino for trading the tokens created on it.

igoldring

There’s genuinely no way you referenced “ETH” and “mining pools” in the same sentence 😭😭 Also, referencing Hedera when they have a governing council of literally the most centralized institutions / corporations vs Ethereum with a permissionless network spread out across independent node operator is comical.

GesturalAbstraction

We’re still in a bear market and in the meantime, AI continues to go on a rip and affect real world change at the level that crypto enthusiasts had dreamed crypto would have and… still just hasn’t quite happened like anybody said it would. So crypto is not really in the spotlight right now, instead it’s AI. Meanwhile FI infrastructure is quietly building on top of RWT, making this a great time to accumulate ETH and/or BTC at really great prices.

exitof99

I started with paper wallets, but when I wanted to do anything with the funds (I was receiving BTC from NiceHash back before ETH went PoS), Coinbase/GDAX didn't support paper wallets, so I had to use a wallet with another website, then transfer to Coinbase. It seemed safe, and ultimately once you've done it once it's not difficult, but you have to pay fees for those two steps from paper wallet to digital wallet to exchange.

ultimatepoker

It’s happened on ETH. Once.

Known-Anywhere3808

I’m with you, lost some amount. Both Bitcoin & ETH

Odd-Fun-1482

yeah ive stopped my ETH dca in favor of BTC. I might break even during the bull run on ETH, but any growth beyond that would require serious development. BTC on the other hand i feel this is a very fair price point, bar anything stupid happens in the next couple of months

VendettaKarma

Anyone left in this space just hears: “Now the self custody everyone preached got hacked.” This might be the thing that really kills everything not named BTC, ETH or SOL

MurderTech

Yup. The big hype around Dogelon Mars after what happened to the other large mean coins making people Millions with so many fake write-ups about how the above coin was going to Skyrocket and just getting into crypto i bought into the whole thing and purchased over 10,000 US dollars in that Meme coin with the chats being filled with what seemed like thousands upon thousands of people but when crypto suddenly crashed it dropped my money down to $2,000... I held on to it for so long roughly 2 years until it was down to about $1500. I was just going to hold on to it and hope it came back but then we ran into financial hardship and had to sell off what cost me $10k. I realize this was my fault but I was just getting into crypto and believed the hype on the other end of things I told my brother and my mother that Bitcoin would explode when it dropped down to what was it 11,000 a coin? It was down very low when everything crashed, I promised them that Bitcoin would explode after looking into it a lot of different research this time realizing that I really messed up but checking every single bit of information over multiple days I told them both to invest as my mother had just gotten 400,000 after my stepdad passed away and was worried about her future as she was supposed to get a million but the brothers of the stepdad caused a lot of issues and it went to court it was very sad i told my mother to invest in six coins which would be around 60 or 70,000 and within a year I guaranteed her that it would at least be 20 or $30,000 if not more and that she could not lose out on it but she did not believe me only to have the coin reach upwards of $90,000 I think was the top? And my brother did the same saying that he didn't believe me when he was investing in regular stocks he invested around $20,000 that he could have invested in Bitcoin which would have been roughly two coins and would have gained him $180,000 instead he lost 5,000 on the regular stocks and when I showed both my mother and brother how massive Bitcoin had gotten and that they should have listened to me after I sent them a plethora of information on it that took me so long to put together and I wished so badly I had the money to invest as I realized the mean point was an absolute loss but that Bitcoin would absolutely come back whether it was only $20k or if it exploded like it did, either way they would profit off of it if they looked at my information and both of them got upset and didn't want to talk about it. Once it was that high and I told them I also said that the information that I was looking up said not to invest whatsoever at that point because it was going to have another drop plus investing that much money on a coin that was about four times last before it exploded it's just asking for a loss.... So I am officially done with crypto as well. And done trying to help people when I do extreme amounts of research and look at prediction charts and past charts now that I absolutely figured out crypto although when I say absolutely I mean for the most part as it's unpredictable as a whole and other than that Bitcoin explosion from such a low number all the other things I've looked into are not concrete and I can't invest any longer as this was one of three major losses that I took along with 10 others that were smaller Investments that had all sorts of height and were well known coins that wouldn't make me Millions or even hundreds of thousands but looked like they were going to be very lucrative including Luna, which absolutely was a major loss in total my crypto losses well I invested from my landscaping business was roughly $22,000.... And from that amount of money I cashed out $4k when I became disabled and lost my business and everything we had and had to cash out with many of them dropping even lower afterwards that's $18,000 lost yes from believing the hype believing chats and believing fake news articles on Yahoo and all sorts of places which I figured out after the fact. Again this is my fault I'm not blaming the coins I should have done an extreme amount of research like I did with Bitcoin afterwards when I saw that it had become so low and even when it skyrocketed all the other coins that I had invested in, did not. Everything from well-known coins that everyone was investing in including ETH, SOL and so many others in that category with LUNC losing me $3500. I believe that was the South Korean guy that tried to run or whatever. Sorry for the long post it's very upsetting and I just kind of went on an upset rant which probably hundreds of thousands of people can understand and have also had made your losses higher than me. I wish you guys all luck whoever is investing just be careful and do your research and make sure that your research is done on reputable sources and not just links on the internet as many are fake, paid for write ups to boost the hype sadly. I really thought crypto was the next big thing but it has too many scams and too many rug pulls to be anything legitimate enough to safely invest. Just my 2 cents. Maybe one day they will have certain laws and regulations placed on the coins and the people who created them allowing those people to have to pay back those that they scam or rug pull or are called out for having hundreds of pages and chats that are fake with Bots that make the room look huge but mainly our fake accounts and Bots. Crypto could have been such an amazing thing and I was so excited for it but I think everyone knows now that it's an arcade where you put your money in and you get very little back when you go to cash out....good luck to all!

Due_Difference_1412

Yes, currently only BTC and ETH offer significant investment value; other cryptocurrencies don't offer much investment potential. Holding long-term is too risky; I only do short-term trading now

VendettaKarma

90% of retail feels the same. Self-Custody as been preached for over a decade. Now that’s not even safe? Nah, bro most are out and definitely aren’t coming back. The mainstream window is closed. Beast chance was right after the pandemic when everyone had stimulus to invest. BTC, SOL & ETH will be the last ones standing. Everything else that has any value will be because people have lost keys, passwords, etc. there’s a lot there. The thrives, grifters, rug pullers & fake influencers ruined this space. Just like they’re ruining everything else. It’s just over.

chief_erl

This is why I don’t trust bullshit startups to hold life changing money. This is why I bought a ledger and use it properly. People, go with the tried and tested wallets to hold your crypto!!! I feel you OP I lost 1btc and 28ETH to Celsius. You can rebuild. It is possible. Keep your head up and keep going. I am very sorry this happened to you and I wish it on no one.

Sufficient_Fuel5269

If you already have BTC and ETH in a cold wallet, the safest thing is to move them to a regulated exchange where you have passed KYC. If you decide use Coinbase or other exchange, is the most standard option for cash-out to USD: you send from your cold wallet, sell to USD and withdraw to your bank. I think to Robinhood works, but is more limited and less used for large withdrawals. If the amount is high, first make a small test transfer and activate 2FA before moving everything.

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anonymous__ignorant

No, i want your 0.00001 ETH on nova if you have any. Those 2 cents mean that i'm just robbing you blind for the amount of moons i'm not decided i care about or not.

anonymous__ignorant

"Please add more ETH on Arbitrum Nova to pay for fees. You currently have 0.00002 ETH, but the transaction requires 0.00003 ETH." Do we still give a shit about moons?

Ok_Winter8503

Categories are useful for research, but I’d build the portfolio around risk budgets, not category quotas. For each holding, ask: What job does it do? How much total downside can it create? How correlated is it with the rest during a crash? What would invalidate the thesis? A portfolio of BTC, ETH, SOL and several L1s can look diversified while remaining one correlated bet. I’d cap each speculative position, stress-test -20% / -50% / -75%, and rebalance on written thresholds rather than narratives. Categories tell you what you own. Concentration and correlation tell you whether the portfolio survives.

Itur_ad_Astra

It will be lower. Complete guesses, but something like $95K for BTC and $3500 for ETH. Maybe in 2028.

Itur_ad_Astra

What, the 1% drop for BTC and 2% drop for ETH? That's just a taste. I'm talking about double digits here.

SCUDDEESCOPE

I've lost some faith when I lost some BTC and ETH from my Trust Wallet because I probably gave permission to some shady site that somehow drained my wallet...it was probably my fault but I still cannot understand how is it possible to just gain access to a wallet.

coolfarmer

It's not because you don't understand ETH that it is weak. Ethereum is also a king here, even if the supply go up in time.

unknow_feature

... selling those 5k ETH