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jazy510

> Barely over it's last all time high it hit 0.14 BTC / ETH back in June 2017....

rv009

I don't think that gonna happen. And I bought this when Cardano launched was a full cheerleader of the project etc etc.... But it just hasn't done anything. Not even a stable coin yet a real one not these random ones..... Held all this time but I'm gonna bounce. It's pretty obvious to me that the winners of this is Bitcoin ETH and maybe Solana.  Even ETH to be honest is a disappointment. Barely over it's last all time high.....lol Next cycle I'm out of altcoins completely....

Rare_Rich6713

ETH is just talking about quantum resistant while QAN has been on it for years, ETH need to catch up faster and the price has been the same for years.

gCAN9

I've been using etherfi for a long time now and really happy with them. 3% instant on-chain cashback in USDC and ETH. And around 5% yield on funds (historically 10% but it has gone down as yields generally decreased in the market - still great getting yield + cashback on money you'd spend anyway) I posted a review on X earlier today [https://x.com/gCAN9k/status/2059581190827368841](https://x.com/gCAN9k/status/2059581190827368841)

First_Sock7249

It'd require a hard fork and the support of the majority of the community. Like ETH after the DAO hack

Spare-Dingo-531

> the true value proposition behind BTC is that it is limited in supply. The limited supply will be BTC's downfall. Once the security budget gets low enough, bitcoin will get reorganized by monero. Furthermore, because bitcoin has limited supply, each halving has diminishing returns. This is something you can even measure and quantify. The diminishing returns of each halving should catch up with bitcoin in the next 4 years, this previous cycle was the final cycle to get any returns. > of the fundamentalists have been stubborningly focused on not caring about price because they think it will follow with utility This is the reason why ETH is the L1 with the second highest market cap and the main reason why Ethereum will overtake Bitcoin one day.

turbo5vz

I'm an ETH holder, but have to admit that from a price action standpoint the true value proposition behind BTC is that it is limited in supply. Otherwise, BTC has mostly failed in all other practical utility aspects. ETH can do far more in all areas, but the hype stage has long been over. It took years just to somewhat taper off the inflation stages after staking. Alot of the fundamentalists have been stubborningly focused on not caring about price because they think it will follow with utility.

oopssomething

Today we will finally see ETH under $2k, might close half my short at market open to cover my roll over fees.

TechCynical

The ethereum foundation (EF) has been regularly clowned on for selling lots of ETH on the open market. Cowswap is usually one of the protocols they use which lets them get their sell filled from hundreds of competing bidders. Whoever can fill the best rate for the EF's order gets filled. That could mean private liquidity, on chain dexs, aggregators, or all of them combined. But yeah tldr eth foundation selling tokens using a onchain swap

Low_Carpet9764

Most people defending small cap cryptos are poor and it’s their entire bag or they are the dev themselves. The wide consensus amongst any kind of serious investor is BTC/ETH then some of the banking alts with maybe one meme as a fun gamble. Nobody should have a primarily altcoin portfolio today

Numerous_Ruin_4947

There are only about 6 ETH for every 1 BTC, yet people act like BTC should trade at 50+ ETH forever? Bitcoin is increasingly becoming Saylor’s leveraged Ponzi trade, while miners’ real purchasing power keeps getting squeezed after every halving. It is nice that people think Bitcoin mining just runs on autopilot, but that assumes miners will keep choosing BTC over AI-related infrastructure that may be far more profitable. Energy is not getting cheaper. Hardware is not getting cheaper. Infrastructure is not getting cheaper. But the block reward keeps getting cut in half.

MediumLibrarian7100

Nah my first purchase was bitcoin and ETH CFDs on a platform called plus500 back in may of 2017, didn’t even use social media back then and still don’t. I especially wouldn’t be buying anything based solely on some buzzword tweets. Hope this helps.

Chaoslava

Exactly. ETH went 5 bucks ahead of ATH and the only coin that did something interesting was BNB. Everything else just floundered. Even BTC only doubled in price from its previous ATH, last cycle it was more than 3x its old ATH.

HannahMD

DCA into BTC and ETH is honestly the most sensible starting point for a long term position, you don't need to overthink price levels the fear and greed index timing sounds logical but in practice it's hard to execute emotionally when everything is actually crashing and the news is terrible

GEB82

5% BTC.. fuck ETH…thank me later…much later…

Negative_Salt_4599

Crypto is more gambling than a casino almost less it’s ETH or BTC. It’s all just a scam. Just a digital scam.

MariachiArchery

The BTC maxi's are right. ETH is the only alt. ICO's are unregistered penny stocks. Take 2FA seriously. DCA. Anything 'algorithmic' is a in fact not algorithmic. Buy the dip.

sethjr10

Start by using a trusted exchange like Bybit, Binance, or any exchange you prefer(dyor) deposit a small amount you can afford to lose, buy major coins like BTC or ETH, and focus on learning before chasing profits.

Solid-Individual-913

Finally some common sense in this sub. All the crypto narratives never mattered. But crypto rallied because interest rates were low. That liquidity is now gone and won't come back. But not only that, gamblers can make better bets on AI, chips and other bets. There is no reason for anyone to be gambling with crypto when MU went 700% in a single year while ETH went -30% in the same period.

panthera_N

2026: BTC 50k.......ETH 1k 2028: BTC 180k.....ETH 3.5k

magicseadog

I say avoid. The race has kind of been run already. Not only is anything worth coming on chain already going on ETH/SOL the best use case for crypto as far as I can tell are stables, and accessing liquidity. Neither of those drive L1 price appreciation which is why despite essentially winning when you look at the numbers (almost all of crypto is locked on ETH including a ginomormous about of bitcoin) the price has languished. ETH has all the TVL. One of the lowest inflation schemes. No foundation that owns half the supply. No insider or vc unlocks. Yet still it languishes. Things like mon are proped up by the market makers (who are the same people who invested in it). Buying something I created back off you for 30% cheaper than you paid for it is profit. They can't have it go to 0 because it looks like a rug so thry support the price bank the profit and make money on the churn. Crypto it's sbouyskimg money on things appreciating. The money is in fees.

cool_eta

Start by buying the biggest coins: BTC, ETH, and SOL. Personally, I don’t really like being exposed to Ethereum. I prefer focusing on Solana, since it’s an ecosystem I’ve been living in, working with, and supporting for a long time.

Diligent-Leopard-140

I usually treat cash as its own allocation bucket instead of trying to manually recalculate every position. So if my normal allocation is: BTC 40% ETH 30% SOL 30% and I want 20% cash, I mentally scale the invested portion down to 80% and keep the relative weights the same underneath. That means: BTC 32% ETH 24% SOL 24% Cash 20% Makes it easier than individually deciding what to trim each time, but still takes some work on my end.I do this in spreadsheet like once in 2-3 months.

ihsan_builds

The right shape for someone coming from stocks, 20% allocation, BTC + ETH, long-term. One thing to push back on, "DCA or buy at extreme fear" is the same trap as "DCA or wait for the right entry". They're opposite strategies. Fear/Greed index is interesting in hindsight but useless in real time, extreme fear can stay extreme for months while price keeps falling, IMO. Pick DCA or level-based buying, not both. If you DCA, buy on the same day every month regardless of price or sentiment. If you wait for levels, you'll probably still be waiting when BTC is $200k. Skip the "key price levels" idea entirely for a long-term holder. Levels matter for traders. For a 5-10 year horizon, every entry in the last 8 years looked terrifying at the time and obvious in hindsight.

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calm_scooter

Sold a chunk of ETH in 2017 thinking I was being smart taking profits, then watched it 10x while I sat there holding stables like an idiot.

buy_bitcoin_orwhatev

Let’s be real; it’s only worth having btc, and maybe 2-3 others. Y’all can fight over which ones, but I think XMR and ETH deserve a conversation. What other alts would you even consider holding at this point?

No-Masterpiece2246

No particular order. Each has its pros and cons. ETH for example has some drama happening with the Foundation again, but has increased throughput and lowered fees with the latest code. BCH has great devs but hardly any marketing. XMR is used by a huge community but has a dark side with its darknet ties.

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oopssomething

Had an alert this morning that ETH was pumping, immediately opened a short. Had to wait 1 hour to get +3% on it, not bad.

alanispul

Stop throwing your money away in alt projects!! BTC and ETH is the only way to go!

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blaziken8x

Ah, that makes more sense. I bought BTC and ETH when it dipped too, but I kept buying, and they seem to be stable enough right now.

blaziken8x

Bro buys BTC and ETH at peak, just to sell at bottom and now buys AI stocks at peak. lololol I bought Samsung and Intel stock when they were a flaming dumpster fire and now I'm up 260% on samsung and 370% on intel, but I don't think I would be willing to put more into them at this point. But I am putting more money into BTC.

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Post is by: smelbemag and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1toa3dz/inwallet_swaps_are_scam/ The built-in swap feature on most wallets is genuinely terrible and I don't think enough people call it out. Tried swapping ETH for something else last month through one of the major wallet providers and the fee was absurd. Not "small spread" absurd, like noticeably, insultingly bad. And that's before the swap hung for 20 minutes and I had no idea if it was going through or not. The frustrating part is that most people just shrug and eat it because it's the path of least resistance. Click, confirm, done. Except you're leaving real money on the table every single time, and the wallet knows you won't bother doing the math. I ended up doing a bit of digging and trying a few alternatives. Used [Stable.com](http://Stable.com) for a stablecoin leg of the trade and that part went fine, no drama. But for the ETH-to-other-crypto side, onchain aggregators are almost always better than whatever the wallet UI is offering you natively. The routing is just smarter and the execution price shows it. The KYC thing is also a real consideration. A lot of the smoother non-custodial options don't require it, which matters if you, don't feel like having your funds frozen over some compliance flag on a routine swap. That's not a fringe concern, it happens. Anyway, ended up finding a DEX aggregator that handled it cleanly at a fraction of what the wallet quoted. The in-wallet swap convenience premium is not worth it at any meaningful size. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

NonVideBunt

I should have exited. Have a bag of BTC, ETH, and ADA and keeping my fingers crossed it eventually goes up but ah well. Very small part of my net worth.

c0horst

I'm not planning on it, I exited in 2022 after ETH went to proof of stake and am happy with that decision, just wondering why anyone else would look at the current landscape and decide to put their money into this...

Aerocryptic

Lowest MC for ETH in 2022 was around $125B. Your numbers are completely off

MediumLibrarian7100

You aren’t wrong. We can’t even call it a good investment anymore (besides bitcoin, maybe ETH and a couple of others). It’s total gambling now.

TomorrowLow5092

Altcoins have gone the way of NTF's. Super sized data centers are popping up and data flow is the product to own. Ask AI what coin to own over next 10 years and it's BTC and ETH. Everything else is noise.

Intelligent-Radio237

This take is directionally right on one thing: the market structure changed, but the conclusion of “alt season is dead forever” is way too absolute. Crypto is not trading in a normal cycle. We’re in one of the strangest macro/political regimes in decades: Trump-era policy volatility, fiscal dominance, tariffs/geopolitics, sticky inflation, and a bull market happening while the Fed has still been draining liquidity through QT. The old “retail buys BTC, profits rotate into ETH, then alts, then microcaps” model may be weaker, but liquidity does not need to look identical to 2017 or 2021 to create another speculative cycle. In fact, the argument ignores the bigger setup: COVID money printing and fiscal stimulus created a massive inflationary aftershock. The Fed then tightened aggressively, but risk assets still found a way to rally. That is not proof crypto is dead — it is proof the system is being repriced under a new inflation/liquidity regime. Commodities are also waking up from a multi-decade base. If the 30-year commodities cycle is breaking out, capital will not just hide in bonds and cash. Hard assets, scarce assets, energy-linked narratives, monetary hedges, and inflation-sensitive trades all become more relevant. Bitcoin already fits that framework. Select altcoins can too. Yes, ETFs trap some liquidity in BTC and ETH wrappers. But they also legitimize the asset class, bring in larger pools of capital, reduce career risk for institutions, and create second-order effects. Institutions do not need to ape microcaps for retail to come back. Retail follows price. Price follows liquidity. Liquidity follows macro. The “40 million tokens” argument is valid, but it does not kill alt season. It kills lazy alt season. The future probably is not “everything pumps.” It is selective, narrative-driven, and more brutal. But that is different from saying the opportunity died. The real mistake is assuming structural change equals permanent death. Markets evolve. Liquidity changes shape. Speculation migrates. In 2021, the dominant trade was cheap money, stimulus checks, and retail leverage. In the next cycle, it may be inflation hedges, commodity scarcity, AI/crypto rails, real-world assets, stablecoin infrastructure, energy, DePIN, tokenized finance, or whatever narrative fits the macro moment. Alt season is not dead. The free-money, zero-rate, 2021-style casino is dead. That distinction matters.

FnAardvark

ETH was green 6 of 11 Q3's so more thab 50%. Even your historical analysis is wrong, and you're the one that posted the picture 🤣

otetmarkets

Yeah, I’m seeing it too. This cycle feels more like rotation than one big story: BTC is mostly macro plus ETF narrative, ETH is a slow grind, and alts are quick isolated pumps when liquidity shows up. That might be “maturity + tighter risk appetite” more than weak conviction. What do you think would actually unify it again, rate cuts, a real killer app, or a new rails narrative like RWAs?

Cannister7

Buy Bitcoin. And if you buy other stuff, then take profit early. And definitely take it when you're well ahead, even if you think it's going to keep going up. I've been so far in profit overall and then didn't sell and now I'm 50% in the red, even despite being probably 4x up on the Bitcoin and ETH I bought, just because of all the other stupid stuff I lost money on.

Desibuddy995

Buying crypto at high :( Holding ETH, SOL, XRP, Lite, Cardano, Dogecoin Hoping to recover soon so that I can sell at buying price

King_Helm84

Selling 8 ETH around $300 in 2020 when it then kept rising

Adorable_Ms_G

Diversifying it is. BTC ETH SOL and some altcoins☺️

oopssomething

First thing everyone should do when touching crypto is opening a short on ETH. Always my first and only advice for friends talking about cryptocurrency.

Bluejumprabbit

Yeah, because liquidity is fragmented now too. ETF BTC, ETH beta, Solana memes, stable yield, and AI all have different buyer bases, so one trade is not dragging the whole market the way it used to. That usually means shorter narrative life

Suitable_Acadia_190

The manufactured FUD observation at the top is the most underrated point in this whole post and you moved past it too quickly. Coordinated negative sentiment doesn't appear randomly. It tends to cluster at specific structural moments — after a significant drawdown when retail is already scared, before a move that institutions want to execute without competition, or when a major position needs to be distributed into remaining buyer liquidity. The timing of FUD cycles in crypto has historically correlated with accumulation activity far more than with genuine fundamental deterioration. That doesn't make every bear case wrong. It means the loudness of a narrative is a terrible proxy for its accuracy. The 401k data point is the one I'd highlight above everything else on the institutional adoption list. Less than 1% of plans offering crypto exposure despite legal ETF access means the actual institutional wave hasn't happened yet. What's happened so far is the infrastructure being built to allow it. The capital itself is still sitting behind fiduciary inertia that will dissolve the same way every new asset class eventually gets normalized — gradually, then suddenly. The advisors at Morgan Stanley and BlackRock recommending Bitcoin to clients in 2025 would have been career-ending moves in 2019. The Ethereum stagnation point is legitimate though and worth sitting with honestly. ETH underperforming its prior cycle peak relative to BTC while carrying significantly more narrative weight is a real structural question, not just FUD. The answer probably lives in the L2 fragmentation of fee revenue, but that's a longer conversation. The Germany Bitcoin sale at $62k is going to be studied in finance courses for a long time.

LavoP

Good for you. The point is you could have sold ETH 5 years ago and invested into NVDA or something. Then you wouldn’t even be here on Reddit because you would be too rich.

MediumLibrarian7100

You’re wrong about 5-10 years ago. Like factually wrong. Thousands of coins pumped 10-100x+ as retail liquidity rotated freely across the cap table on exchanges. That upside probability no longer exists. Post 2024 ETF inflows and institutional custody have concentrated capital in BTC/ETH wrappers and major custodians and that’s now preventing the same free flowing cascades. Most coins now stay flat or die. Oh, and up until 21 there has only ever been around 20k tokens minted. So the majority of tokens actually PRINTED for us. Maybe you just wasn’t there?

EdLesliesBarber

I’m not sure I have regrets really but I completely exited the market a few year ago after taking profits over the years. My BTC average costs were less than 300, ETH single digits and LTC cents. At the time I bought my a house, set up a retirement account for her and dumped the rest into the market. It’s grown healthily since and we have more than a comfortable nest egg. I don’t really follow or check prices any more but every now and then I do the math and feel a little funny.

tonybanner1619

Sounds interesting on paper, but which chains does the neural routing engine actually support right now? Is it mainly ETH/Base or are they scaling to Solana LPs too?

Cryptocaller

So I bought ETH starting around $34 and ranging up to $400ish. From 2017-2019. It’s your entry point that matters. You seem like the one that is mad but I don’t know why.

jekpopulous2

While I partially agree with this… you seem to be overlooking security - which is IMO the greatest benefit to a trustless / decentralized system. If you’re using HYPE (for example) you just have to trust that their chain is safe because they don’t publish the code for their order books, oracles, or consensus mechanism. They don’t disclose how many people are on the multi-sig that can emergency freeze the chain or who even has the keys to it. If you’re a retail trader playing with house money that may not matter much… you’re getting fast, cheap trades without much friction. If you’re a market maker risking billions of dollars by putting it on-chain that matters a lot though. That’s why even despite bearish narratives the majority of capital is still deployed on ETH. JP Morgan isn’t going to deploy hundreds of billions in RWAs onto a chain controlled by a handful of competitors with a multi-sig. The entire industry is currently walking a fine line between trust and greed. You might be right that the core ethos of DLTs has been abandoned… but if that’s the case the whole industry is cooked anyway. We just end up with 20 different chains with 24/7 stock trading and the exact same predatory middle-men taking a cut. This is what Ethereum is saying no to. I don’t have a crystal ball to see how this all plays out but what EF is doing is commendable.

Wait_for_You

not buying ETH at USD 300 and I had the money to do it... sold most of what I had when went up to USD 4800

Doogy_style6

Selling shib for .3 ETH - looked it up later, worth about 24m USD at the time. Pain.

007TheLostOne

why are you getting so mad? Its my money and I can decide what I do with it, I simply dont see any point in me holding ETH anymore. I sold it and bought other positions in crypto and stocks that are smoking ETH returns

007TheLostOne

Yea I sold all of my ETH recently, its literally down 12% for 5 years. Maybe itll hit ATH maybe not, all I know is I'm not waiting another 5 years to find out. There are much better other investment opportunities out there

007TheLostOne

holding ETH for 5 years...

No-Maintenance5961

Honestly I knew when ETH was forced to proof of stake that crypto was cooked.

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Admirable_Edge_1956

Man, that ETH/BTC 4h slide is brutal to watch. To stop myself from panic-checking TradingView every 10 minutes and ruined my day, I coded a simple script that acts as a Telegram bot. It monitors key oversold RSI levels and Bollinger Bands anomalies across multiple timeframes and pings my phone when a potential reversal or bounce is actually forming. Takes the emotion out of it. If you or anyone here is tired of chart fatigue and wants to test it, let me know. Happy to share the link for feedback

liftcookrepeat

I'm leaning range for now. Falling OI with stable price feels more like leverage getting flushed than fresh conviction coming in. I'd want to see stronger stablecoin inflows and ETH/BTC improve before calling it real expansion. Right now it still feels fragile underneath.

Element2218

Long term holds I have LTC, ETH, Sol, Ada, Hbar, Xrp, Xlm, Dovu. I just started adding ZBCN slowly every month. I do like Mon I’ve nearly double my stash by swing trading thinking of start halving it and start adding a long term hold.

otetmarkets

By 2030 it’s a coin flip between ETH becoming the neutral settlement layer for L2s, stablecoins, and tokenized assets (big rerating) or getting squeezed where L2s and competitors capture most of the value (underperformance even if crypto grows). The tells are boring: L2 activity secured by ETH, stablecoin/RWA volume onchain, and whether fee burn actually outpaces issuance over time.

piggleii

Well, I like Linux better than ETH.

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oopssomething

ETH/BTC 4h chart is just a long slide down

BriBumer

I do not sell anything. If you are not excited about my choice. Make a better constellation. Like 75% BTC 25% Eth Or 50% BTC 25% ETH 25% Different alts. and so on.... BTC and ETH got more reasons to be in the portfolio than some users got braincells... Hyperliquid is used by the smart people. The reason is easy to explain. **Own Orderbook** **Own Orderbook VS Market Maker. Every good trader will prefer the orderbook over the market maker.... Either you trade directly or a third party try to make some better trade conditions for itself.** It doesnt matter for low budget trader. But for the big ones one trade could made a difference which coul be your year salary (hope for you its around 100k) and much more....

SomewhereBusiness503

Your allocation is not crazy, but it’s very concentrated toward SOL and a couple smaller narratives (Render, Celestia). That’s fine if you’re intentionally betting on them, but most long term portfolios end up struggling more with allocation drift than with coin selection itself. The hard part over 5 years isn’t setting the split, it’s sticking to it when one coin runs 5x and another drops 70%. People usually either overconcentrate without noticing or keep tweaking based on emotion. If you want a cleaner approach, keep BTC/ETH as the core and treat the rest as satellite bets with a fixed cap so they don’t silently take over the portfolio. Also, since you’re adding monthly, it helps to have a way to automatically maintain those target weights instead of manually rebalancing each time. A lot of long term investors use rebalancing tools for exactly that, so the portfolio stays aligned to the original plan without constant intervention.

cryptotouchline

Depends on your own risk appetite honestly. Going all in on one coin feels a bit too “go big or go home” for me personally. I prefer building a more balanced portfolio instead. For example: * VOO / S&P500 for long-term stability * NVIDIA because I believe AI still has huge growth * Some bonds for balance * Then only smaller higher-risk exposure like BTC and ETH And my diversification isn’t just within crypto/altcoins either. I think diversifying across different asset classes matters too instead of having your entire future dependent on one sector or one coin.

cryptotouchline

Feels like a lot of people are still mentally trading the 2021 cycle tbh. Back then money flowed down the risk curve much harder because the market was way more retail-driven. Now a huge chunk of institutional money just gets absorbed into BTC ETFs directly instead of spilling everywhere into alts. And yeah, the ETH/BTC ratio still looks pretty weak honestly. Hard to scream “altseason” when ETH itself still can’t really outperform BTC consistently.

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Vitalik Buterin Reveals 90% of His Net Worth Sits in ETH Amid Foundation Overhaul Plans [https://coinstats.app/news/7879d8ac10900e63fbfcb4bf0ab102f45dec3542e4ed911bc3033d79eab5388b\_Vitalik-Says-Ethereum-Foundation-Will-Streamline-Operations-and-Reduce-ETH-Sales/](https://coinstats.app/news/7879d8ac10900e63fbfcb4bf0ab102f45dec3542e4ed911bc3033d79eab5388b_Vitalik-Says-Ethereum-Foundation-Will-Streamline-Operations-and-Reduce-ETH-Sales/)

ConsciousSkyy

I’m glad. Made almost 2 BTC off early ETH gains. Very very glad I sold and got out. Really feels like the Linux or MySpace of crypto

Supachenko82

Cryptocurrency = BTC, ETH, and maybe Solana is diversified enough. Stock = Just go for it.

GreenStretch

ETH could easily reclaim $4k, but will we ever get the $10k we were hoping for?

Icy_Subject7683

I just shot for BTC ETH XRP and PAXOS G. And just add to them when I can

Bluejumprabbit

Alt season probably starts with ETH beta coming back. I would watch ETHBTC and stablecoin margin growth before I watch alt season posts.

_Commando_

Sell less? They've already sold most of their coins, they've got approx. 160,000 to 200,000 ETH left...

grotness

>but nothing stops people from continuing to use other established decentralized blockchains. I explicitly addressed this in my first comment. It's a niche now and isn't currently showing any sign of growth beyond speculation. >I personally think major players will build on Ethereum and these other similar chains, not their own. This is because they are long tested and resilient, and publicly verifiable. Why would they? They could build their own network of validators and get the same level of stability and immutability but with total authority for a *fraction* of the CapEx & useage cost. You could build 5 units with the hardware capability to run a node for the price of 1 ETH. Furthermore, as it's a private network, you wouldn't need gas, so your running cost will just be hardware maintenance. You would have the same stability & ledger capabilities, total control over back-end digital infrastructure and not beholden to an external organisation. >This is because they are long tested and resilient, and publicly verifiable. The software is all completely open-source. They can very cheaply manafacture their own resilience and they don't need public verification. The crypto ideals of self-governing financial libertarianism did not take hold. I would argue that instead, we handed them a financial infrastructure that suits their agenda far more than what we already had. Everyone already knows at this stage how egregiously unethical the inception of the data industry was. Global commerce on blockchain rails just hands them more control and erodes our privacy and autonomy even further. Data collection will be more invasive than ever. Refer back to my first comment on what circumstances I think need to eventuate before the people see the *true* value of crypto and start to self-govern. I'll restate my position, the world was not ready. I truly hope that some day we are.

darkrood

Provide Liquidity for Vitalik and his friends and the promise of one day ETH crossing a million

Fine-Comparison-2949

Creates value for private companies that roll their own EVM clones or centralized L2s, which doesn't benefit ETH holders at all.

stefansilva_xrp

Im talking strictly price action. ETH is dumping the hardest and pumping the least compared to the others same thing XRP did until Q4 2024.

Fit-Tiger-6448

I think the whole crypto market is done. BTC will stay the longest but most if not all Altcoins have seen their ath. Now it‘s all dying. Slow but steady. XRP will never see 2$ again like ETH will never see 4000 again. This year XRP will go below 1 and ETH under 1000. It can be over in 2028. The market is exhausted.

Medium_Change4574

ETH still below 4k in 2028 would be insane

panthera_N

People need to stop hating the bears. BTC and ETH both have huge market capitalizations. We need to see a drop in price to get more X value. If they just pump slowly, it will be no different from gold or the SP500. >Let's pray together for: 2026: BTC 50k.......ETH 1k 2028: BTC 180k.....ETH 3.5k

No_Ebb_3017

HYPE in Top 10 will flip SOL soon and then flip ETH

counterboy12

I wouldn’t count on ETH, it’s old tech. You will be more lucky trying your luck with Flow and it‘s native cadence language

Empty-Operation569

I have 1/3 in BTC SOL ETH. Staked and I DCA those. 1/3 in well researched alts, staked. Then 1/3 is for trading plus a few wild cards with insane staking yields that seem worth the risk.

steyMorgan

I don’t go all in on one coin I prefer diversification to manage risk. For core holdings, I stick mostly to BTC and ETH, then a small portion in stablecoins and a few selective alt plays depending on market conditions. I also use Coindepo to help keep everything structured, especially for tracking positions and staking yields instead of just chasing one bet.

GlorionToken

Great questions! For staking security, a hardware wallet like Ledger adds an important layer of protection for your private keys, even when staking. Contract risk is real but Lido and Rocket Pool have years of track record and audited smart contracts, which makes them safer than newer alternatives. For someone without 32 ETH, Rocket Pool (minimum 0.01 ETH) is probably the most decentralized option. Always spread your risk and never stake more than you can afford to keep locked up!

GlorionToken

Great portfolio breakdown! The BTC/ETH core makes a lot of sense as a foundation. Hyperliquid has been impressive — real usage and real revenue is what separates it from hype-only projects. Your point about delivery vs promises is spot on, that's the key lesson most crypto veterans learn the hard way. Good luck with the bull market!

sshegem

Best believe they arent done YET - an altcoin purge is coming. Majority will literally die, only a few will survive. BNB ETH TAO KAS are a few that will survive and thrive

Temporary-Cause730

I keep the majority in BTC (50-60%), some ETH and SOL (around 10-15% combined) and the rest I use in 2-3 conviction plays. I used to have like 15 coins, but honestly it just makes it harder to follow and mentally exhausting. 

Dubb18

I'll give some lesson-learned examples. I once bought and sold BNB between $30-$40 to go all in on another coin. That coin is now down 99%, and if I had kept some BNB, I'd be sitting on a nice profit right now. I once bought several ETH at sub $1K and went all in on another coin. That coin is now down 99%, and if I had kept some ETH, I'd be sitting on decent profit there too. I now diversify my portfolio. I have bought some high risk tokens that are currently down, but I've also kept stuff like AVAX and SOL in my portfolio which have some solid fundamentals and some good upside (IMO) over the coming years. Also, I don't have all my savings in crypto. Also have it in an IRA, 401K, and other stuff.

SpontaneousDream

It will flip ETH

arveena

They are both still in the top 50 you could have gotten burned way harder with something like VET or algo or even Terra Luna. At the moment every alt besides hyper is shitting the bed even ETH. So just average down and hope for a bull run again