ETH

Opposite-Car2809

I learnt my life lesson this year that greedy can kill one's mental health, I was thinking ETF gain too slow only 15% on average and I encounter crypto and see ETH can do 400% a year then I went all in. I fuckin regret I did this, Im now on the verge of deeply depression, if I listened to myself this woudnt happen at all and my mood wont affected by the market like hell, like whenever Im dating my girl, then all my excitement and joyfulness dissapears whenever I opened the charts and ETH drops another 5%, and my girl would be angry cuz she think Im being mad at her for no reason. FCKKK! If i invested in QQQ, I would happily date my gf and knowing my money is riding safetly

partymsl

I dream of ETH $5K... one day.

Prince-Minikid

Just sold another ETH lol

biba8163

*OP bought a bunch of shitcoins because he thought they'd all *"go through the roof"* in Altseason and he lost a ton of money. So he decided to post like he still knows something, warning of the most brutal crypto crash and of MSTR collapsing.* *Just like he knows nothing of how crypto markets work, he knows nothing about Microstrategy debt structure, obligations and maturity.* **HINT NOOB: Microstrategy leverage is nothing like 3AC, Celsius and Terra.** I do have some concerns past 2027-2028 but if you are going to write about MSTR collapse, at least provide some details and a cohesive breakdown of why it will fail and not some bogus gibberish just because you lost money on ETH and shitcoins like ADA and LINK. > Tell me your three bets and why **(Nov. 15, 2024)** > ADA/ETH/SOL/LINK https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1grzmlx/comment/lxbn0pb/ > I have hears this one many times, every cycle "this will be the mast major alt season". Yet, we see it again and again. Also this time. **(November 2024)** > In fact, the high liquidity injection to BTC's mcap could truly send ETH through the roof when focus shifts. https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/1gq1oax/comment/lwxx711/ > ADA and ETH are my top bets. Personally I believe ADA has a lot more room for growth, also financially. **(December 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1h43p01/any_coins_that_will_beat_eth_and_ada_in_2025/lzxm06k/ I warned NOOBs like the OP that THIS time was very different. You can't be holding a bunch of shitcoins and expect them to just go up. They lost money and now still are acting like they know what they're talking about. > Noobs who weren't around in 2016 and 2020, you should know that 2024 looks very very different so far than at this time frame in 2016 and 2020. **(Nov. 5, 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gkfvzs/bitcoin_price_crushing_altcoins_heading_into_us/lvlrry1/ > The market is changing: ETFs, MSTR, etc account for a lot of the inflows. This money is not going to leave BTC seeking greater return on Alts **(Nov. 13, 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1gq6ahm/daily_general_discussion_november_13_2024/lwymxl9/ > Each cycle is a bit different. Too many people are saying, just hold on to your coins, it's playing out exactly the same. **(Nov. 13, 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gqexix/why_are_there_so_few_active_users_when_btc_is_at/lwxx36a/ > Be careful of people telling you this cycle is playing out exactly the same. ETFs, institutional and mainstream involvement, memecoins, L2 options and ETH competitors, it's very different **(Nov. 19, 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gujmk1/daily_crypto_discussion_november_19_2024_gmt0/lxyt5pw/

RSomnambulist

5-year View BTC: Up 389% ETH Up 484% Both your comparison and mine aren't entirely relevant, but there's some more numbers to ponder.

parntsbasemnt4evrBC

i started covering some shorts with ETH sub 3k, but looking to cover the rest sub 90k BTC hopefully tonight/tomorrow AM, IT would be crazy to not take some of the table ahead of the NVDA earnings & Non farm payrolls after close wednesday / AM thursday

SeriousGains

Don’t worry, Tom Lee, one of the biggest ETH bulls (so clearly a smart guy), says 200k EOY!

Low_Arm9230

I have a question for you. Do you also invest in other promising cryptos like ETH, XRP or are you just focused on bitcoin only ?

biba8163

ETH was sitting at ~$2,500 when Tom Lee was marketed as the chairmain of BMNR. In the months that followed: - BMNR bought ~$13 Billion ETH - Tom Lee shilled ETH weekly on CNBC - Tom's shilling brought about ~$14 Billion in net inflow into the ETH ETFs - ETH reached $4,950 *Without Tom Lee and BMNR, ETH probably would be sitting under $2K. This was a stroke of serendipity for ETH bagholders to free themselves but they drank the Kool-Aid instead* > ETH is a once in a generation asset. Bitcoin was the protype, Ethereum is the implementation. Don't fumble this, don't get sidelined. > 10K is just the beginning. Never sell the golden goose, stake and stack. https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1m5a29c/daily_general_discussion_july_21_2025/n4bruwj/ > ETH literally goes to 20k and never comes back down again. Gold is 20T, and some people here legitimately thinks 2T is some kind of top for Ether lol https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1n4m3vn/daily_general_discussion_august_31_2025/nbobz46/ > ETH at golds valuation would be $198k > ETH is going way beyond that https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1neugb4/daily_general_discussion_september_12_2025/nds088r/

LargeSnorlax

Lotta tippy top signals to take profits this year - 5th bitcoin ATH - ETH hitting ATH - SOL hitting ATH - BNB hitting ATH Nice trade

CharlieTheo-14

ETH is an alt.

an525

I sold my ETH trade at a $4.7M gain from Feb to Aug. Bought at like $2200 sold at $4600. I’m so fucking thankful I talked myself into completely selling out.

harvested

ETH touching previous ATH by like $5 for 5 minutes is so poetic. Don't shitcoin folks.

cascading_disruption

I feel sorry for our ETH bros, they were a punching bag for almost 4 years since 2021 and then they got their ATH for like 69 ms and off we go to being a punching bag for four more years.

cascading_disruption

Last chance to buy ETH above 3k! Aaaaaaaand it's gone.

Soil_Electronic

On ETH?

Lisaismyfav

BTC 92k and ETH 3k breached. Bring on Saylor and Tom Lee.

Medium_Change4574

There goes 3k ETH

BusinessGoblins

Ngl, slow season for work so I don't mind watching the charts while BTC and ETH flounder around.

skkane1

Kid's got alligator blood. Can't get rid of him. | ETH not sub 3k

HoldCtrlW

BTC has no use case besdies speculations. Might as well just get ETH or something for some use case

BusinessGoblins

Battle for 3k on ETH. FML

ketchupmayocombo

Tom Lee will learn the hard way with ETH.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Tom Lee, Chairman of BitMine Immersion Technologies, predicts a 100x 'supercycle' for Ethereum, similar to Bitcoin's past growth. BitMine, the largest publicly traded Ethereum treasury, recently added 54,156 ETH to its holdings, now totaling over $11.1 billion in ETH. Despite Ethereum's recent price drop, Lee remains optimistic, suggesting the crypto market is recovering from October's liquidation event. He anticipates a market cycle peak in 12-36 months, with Ethereum potentially reaching $7,000 and Bitcoin $150,000-$200,000 by year-end. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

104MAS

Anyone else waiting for ETH to crash back under 2k? 🍿

50sat

Nah just because we don't take advantage of them doesn't mean they don't have useful capabilities. There's lots of interesting and useful tech in crypto. The markets on the other hand are purely speculative. It's well understood, I think, that the 'degen' space exists and is the predominant face of crypto. Just as it is, tbh with stocks. If you are a trader talking with other traders about markets, it's all about the monetary speculation. If it helps any with the larger perspective - mainstream finance is moving towards ETH a lot faster than ETH is moving towards mainstream finance. On the simplest level, the token is just one more asset for traditional markets. But more and more of traditional investing is moving towards blockchain/tokenization. We'll still be joking about the price of ETH when we're remembering the fall of the dollar. IMO.

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Everest2017

All of this is bad for ETH because it just proves that Ethereum is 100% centralized. One person (Vitalik) decides everything.

SeriousGains

He was ultimately right about his ETH buy signal after taking lots of heat for it.

piggleii

Tom Lee woke to the sour stink of last night’s whiskey still clinging to the sheets, the red glow of his phone telling him ETH had kissed $3k before bouncing a cruel twenty bucks. Three billion in paper losses, maybe three and a half now; the number floated above him like a private storm cloud while the rest of the world slept. He lay there a moment longer, one arm over his eyes, feeling the familiar ache behind the temples that came when hope finally collapsed. In the marble bathroom he splashed cold water on a face that millions would soon watch for signs of fracture. He practiced the smile in the mirror (easy, reassuring, the one that had sold entire conferences on the idea of digital scarcity), then rehearsed the line he’d deliver to the CNBC camera in forty-five minutes: “Institutional flows are just getting started… fifteen thousand by Christmas feels conservative at this point.”

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piggleii

Is Tom Lee still buying ETH?

BoringPrinciple2542

You are confusing crowds with individuals. It’s not individual institutions or giga-whales moving the market but rather the effect of the overall market moving. At any given time there is a vast number of people buying and selling. Sometimes there is more selling pressure which leads to downward price action and sometimes it is more buy pressure and the price goes up. Ultimately though it’s a sort of statistical sentiment not coordinated action. If you want to identify the largest movers though, you can use explorers like Arkham to look at the flows. Link below will show ETH as an example. https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/token/ethereum

JohanBlazer

I’ve been through 2 BTC cycles and have no money to show for it. So my advice sucks. But this doesn’t feel like a top. More like a leg down. I think ETH is heading for wave 3 and BTC is heading for wave 5. I also made $0 in crypto.

biba8163

It was obvious Altseasons were coming to an end. Every subsequent "cycle" BTC had diminished returns and Alt gains were more muted. In 2021, we didn't even have a broad Altseason. 2024/25 it was obvious that with BTC diminishing returns, Institutional involvement and ETFs that most Alts would be decimated. The total Alt marketcap has shrunk -40% since November 2021 and nobody knows where the money for Alts will come from since they can no longer depend on leeching off BTC. **2013** Weekly Alt Performance as BTC pushes towards $1K - LTC 150% - XRP 300% - Peercoin 270% - Namecoin 620% - Primecoin 670% - Novacoin 335% - Megacoin 1,400% https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131126/ **2017** Weekly Alt Performance as BTC pushes towards $20K - ETH 60% - BCH 50% - XRP 200% - LTC 63% - ADA 340% https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171218/ **2021** Weekly Alt Performance as BTC pushes towards $70K - ETH 11% - BNB 18% - SOL 22% - ADA 8% - XRP 18% https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20211108/

Kniffliger_Kiffer

Its time for all the alts with no real value like ripple to dump over some time, although i think it will be a slow and painful dump. Only bitcoin, Monero and maybe ETH (although slower) will continue to grind up. Those VC-backed altcoins will suffer most.

MaxxGawd

You will lose everything. The chance of this being the start of Crypto bear is more than 50% given everything lining up. And ETH will go down \~60-80% from here. See you at Mcdonalds sir.

Aerocryptic

$470M worth of BTC and $176M worth of ETH deposited on Coinbase by Blackrock 1 hour ago. Bommers are selling their bags

Illustrious_Mix4946

Honestly, this turned out way more valuable than I expected — really appreciate everyone who took the time to reply. I’ve been active in stocks for years, but stepping into crypto felt like entering a completely different universe. The nuance, the conviction, the skepticism, the depth — it’s all very real here. I’m genuinely grateful for the honesty and the mix of perspectives. I came here to learn, not to flex or shill, and I feel like I actually walked away with something meaningful. Right now, outside of BTC & ETH, these are the 4 I’m keeping on my watchlist based on everything I learned here: • SOL • SPX6900 • HBAR • Hyperliquid Once I’m fully clear on my entry price and strategy, I’ll share the allocation and reasoning too — not as advice, just as accountability and maybe to return the same value this thread gave me. Thanks again to everyone who commented. You didn’t just help me build a list — you helped me build conviction.

TheFlyingHambone

ETH is dead to me at this point. Sorry

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Legitimate_Cry_5194

Have sold everything for this cycle, made around x4 of my investment which was very low 6 digits. Could have made X6 but ETH destroyed me. But it's ok, we can't be right all the time and my investment was still very successful, it took me a while to deal with it emotionally though. Next target is all in at 50% down from ATH, only in BTC. Maybe a trailing stop buy at 5% increase or even at 10% if i sense that the price is heading much lower due to some extraordinary reasons. If i miss the train so be it, i am not interested in DCA on BTC, especially with the hugely diminishing ROI.

fisstech15

Because it's where most of the money and dapps are. And because it's one of the few that's censorship resistant. If you swap it to ETH they will not block your wallet or take it away.

_DigiTap

Going all-in takes guts, but just make sure it fits your risk tolerance. ETH at these levels can be a solid long-term play

TheBitcoin21

Pl don't bring in it on yourself. You can buy ETH for less t han it's 2021 ATH. This says a lot. Bitcoin. Minimum 4 years, good a decade & ideal Never sell unless there's life emergency. Stack sats stay humble :)

Dry-Illustrator-5277

BTC, ETH, SOL. Last one either ICP, LINK or HYPE Do a 40, 30, 15, 15 split

AlonzoSwegalicious

What is ETH Gate??

Patient-Process-2565

Your crazy. You had a good portfolio of stocks to sell and go all in on ETH? Why didn’t you keep all your stocks and allocate a small portion of your funds to ETH if you believe in it. Don’t believe the crypto hype, it can crumble very quickly

bizaroo933

One advantage: no idiot in the world will ever touch this scam if this was the ‘bullrun’. Alts barely went up, ETH couldnt even stay longer then 5 mins above its 2021 ATH and BTC is about to collapse back to the 60’s/70’s despite its so called goverment and institution interest

AlwaysLosingDough

Might see that ETH price soon

zazapatilla

ETH is done. Whales already sold after the pump. If you're moving to crypto, might as well invest in BTC and Solana.

Blueberry_Dependent

It's because people expected a pattern to go again. BTC up, ETH up, alts up. But the big players won't allow that to happen. The moment people saw any similarity in the cycles they manipulated it. I won't be surprised if BTC stays around 100k for the next 4 years. 

piggleii

Even the Ethereum Foundation doesn't swap their ETH to USDC onchain anymore. They literally use CEXs to dump their ETH on retail.

seanmg

XRP became irrelevant when ETH came on the block in like 2016.

quintavious_danilo

You had a chance to choose BTC but you went with ETH. Don’t come crying when it’s not moving as expected.

EVOape8

Okay, this is probably the craziest thing I’ve seen today. I would’ve maybe understood if you said BTC but ETH. My guy that’s just nuts.

_BannedAcctSpeedrun_

Going all in on ETH because you think your safe stocks are too manipulated is certainly a choice.

Alexdip99

What’s happening has nothing to do with BTC, it’s a massive liquidation across all cryptos. Btc is holding better than the rest of the lot additionally . This has nothing to do with the halving of the 4 years cycles . Look at ETH (-45%) or solana (-60% from its Ath )

Finally_Free88

Should have split between ETH and SOL my man. Assuming you already had a large BTC bag prior to buying that ETH.

Anneliese2282

I would be hesitant to get out of stocks right now. That said, I dont regularly trade ETH. Are there reasons I dont see to support the idea of getting long ETH down here?

Dazzling_Marzipan474

I'll buy more Bitcoin at like 60k-70k. ETH around 1500. I like Bitcoin and have a little. I've given up on crypto. I don't give a shit about ETH at all but I think the risk reward if it goes to 1500 or less is there. Fuck all the alts.

More-Coffee-8855

and to drop all that $$ in ETH, probably the most manipulated and sketchy behind the scenes deals. ETH-gate is a thing for a reason.

Silarous

If you buy ETH from an exchange like Coinbase, withdraw it to a ETH address in your wallet, do a bunch of trades/transactions outside of the exchange at places like Uniswap, and then finally deposit those funds back to Coinbase from that same wallet, they have a complete record of everything you did. It's all packaged up in nice little box with a ribbon on top. Ethereum is an account based blockchain and is probably the worst chain for your privacy unless you take proactive, very advanced steps to clean your history. The average Joe is not able to evade a well versed chain surveillance service. Especially with AI tools that are available now. It's extremely important to do things by the book if you want to remain in compliance with the law. By the time most people realize how easily tracked their on-chain activity is, it's to late to clean up their past mistakes. You must be proactive, not reactive.

Nice_Assumption_6396

Bro nobody was saying ETH was the future back then except maybe a couple of crypto influencers on twitter and nowadays the average gas fee on ethereum is rarely ever above a dollar.

TheFlyingHambone

i swore ETH off in 2021 because I tried to make a transaction and it failed and ate like $100 worth of ETH anyways. I was like, "this can't be the future."

2CommaNoob

Yes; this. If everyone thinks and accept something is a bubble, it's not a bubble. It's the same shit with the housing prices. Prices come down a little (-10%): oh bubble is popping.... people start buying because they want to get in at a good price and the drawdown slows and no bubble popping. BTC and ETH are already \~30-40% below the highs, the smart people are going to start buying at these prices and keep averaging down. I think the days of Black Monday, 1929, 2008 are not going to happen anymore because of many factors including: Technology is different, way more knowledge available, more people have access to markets, markets are international, people can click and buy in a instant, 24 hour trading. What we'll have is faster bear markets but a quick recovery like 2022, or april of last year.

tomsmac

IMO that was a huge mistake. ETH has massive competition that is not only cheaper but MUCH faster. I have zero doubt that it’ll soon see sub <$800.

-GrizZz-

Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, Chainlink. Bitcoin: digital gold. ETH: almost half of every thing is built on it. Solana: super fast and low fees and getting highly adopted. Chainlink: king of the oracles. There's plenty of other projects with more upside potential for this bull run, but those 4 are pretty much guaranteed long term profit makers- the set it and forget it kind of coins.

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the post specifically mentions stabling ETH as what flagged it

Simke11

I’ve made decent profit on BTC, not as much on ETH, but BTC was majority of my portfolio so I walked away happy.

FuckDataCaps

>and suddenly every flip from ETH to USDC Seems like they weren't only moving if it involved trading ETH/USDC pair

To_k

Read again, I said microcaps and small caps. No, most of my microcaps were much higher last year. Yeah Solana and ETH can go down still, but if you look at a coin like $ERG, it’s literally plateaued at $0.5-0.6. It’s harder and harder to justify selling it at these prices. Remember, even the $OTHERS chart includes the top highest MC altcoins outside of the top 10. The tail end of crypto coins occupy a very small fraction of the $OTHERS.D. Most of those microcaps have hit extremely low levels. Like we’re talking sub $1M in MC. Considering that no alt season has occurred so far, accumulation will likely continue, not discontinue at these levels. I would agree with you if we had already gotten an alt season, but with years of selling pressure, the upside potential will only increase.

piggleii

Why do ETH fans look at a photo of Vitalik dressing or acting like a creepy dork and then think that that's bullish? How does that work?

ComplexWrangler1346

Bitcoin Up to 105k on Tuesday ETH will be above 3600 by Wednesday Alt coin season starts the day after thanksgiving Zcash will hit $1,000 by next Saturday XRP hits $3 the following week Solana hits $300 on Xmas day Dogecoin hits $1 on January 1st

Saffuran

That is just not the case, there has been no parabolic move but if someone has been largely in Bitcoin with some splashes in ETH and SOL since 2023 they have been eating. Just because the shitcoins with no utility and useless ass meme coins are doing nothing doesn't mean the bullrun has been bad - people who bet on Fartcoin and Dogecoin just bet wrong.

Crivos

I would have laughed if ETH was at the same as current prices.

Maconi

It’s the worst I’ve seen and I’ve been around since 2013. To be fair, crypto has stagnated since 2020. It’s like everyone cashed out with ETH ICOs in 2017 and things haven’t been the same since. Ignoring all of that, BTC was made in response to the 2008 recession, meaning it hasn’t existed during a real economic downturn (where TradFi has a long sustained bear market). This could just be the result of the impending TradFi economic downturn. Crypto is looking like it will follow (which would mean it fails one of its original purposes IMO).

piggleii

If you feel bad about your ETH bag, just read Vitalik's "Trustless Manifesto". Before I would have asked you read about Ethereum building the "Alternative Human Coordination System", but now it's the "Trustless Manifesto".

Ezelia

The four projects I would include are : BTC, BTC, BTC and ETH ;)

crimsontape

I'm gonna ignore the comment section, cause it's the typical disaster. The network itself works. I've used it. It was the most effective, fast, and efficient. Why it's worth anything is speculation. I think about adoption versus technical debt. There's a pure quality to the crypto ecosystem that I think tickles a lot of people in finance looking for efficiencies. It's automated ledgering. Whether it's slow or fast determines the market for that transaction type. XRP is centralized. Look at the technology underpinnings. Why *would you want XRP* is the better question. It's a version of a product that wasn't as open, and better stands to be *controllable*. It's not the open mess that is BTC and ETH. But it's far enough from privacy tokens. That said, ETF of late is pump and dump territory until it evens out. Cause it's here. It's now. Ride as you will. Know what you're buying into.

ImthatRootuser

Can I get ETH at $1700 again pls

jwz9904

ETH almost under 3k.

eXch-Affiliates

Several tokens serve real purpose. BTC, LTC, ETH, SOL, XMR for starters. XRP is not and will never be one of them.

KrisyKrossy

Another pointless post about XRP, regurgitating nonsense from an echo chamber as old as the crypto space itself does not make you smart XRP still number 4 (technically 3) after all this hate Still top 10 after several bullruns, apart from BTC and ETH, many past top 10 have fallen very far from grace You can cry all you want, but if you can’t beat them then join them. I used to hate on XRP, but taking a big chance on XRP after the SEC lawsuit was filed in 2020 was the single best decision I’ve made in crypto

CryptoNerdSmacker

XRP is used as gas, and secures the transaction via cost based deterrence, for any transaction on the XRPL. This has been confirmed by the CTO. RLUSD taking off is a boon for XRP. Even if the network of choice for transacting remains split between ETH Mainnet and XRPL around 80-90 / 10-20 that’s still billions of dollars of volume on the XRPL needing XRP as gas. There’s also XRP being removed from circulating supply to create trustlines for RLUSD on XRPL, Liquidity Pools, etc. Legitimate flywheel utility and organic upward price pressure. A lot of people are concerning themselves with XRP losing grip on the cross border payments narrative but it’s more of a change of mechanism. It’s still facilitating the transactions but not as the currency of choice. Not financial advice but imo the cryptos to watch closely are any cryptos whose native chain is used to transact stablecoins in such a way that said cryptocurrency is required as gas.

Away-Percentage4756

Im new to crypto but isnt btc for new people like me stupid i dont have thousands of dollars to invest so isnt it smarter to go for ETH or other coins?

North_Weezy

BTC, ETH, SOL, LINK. However I’d personally stay away from the market until the consensus is we are in a bear market because prices could definitely go lower.

biba8163

> You're describing the whole crypto market lol. Reminder that the Use Cases, Utility and entire investment thesis of your favorite Alt is entirely fictional. A bear market always reveals all these Alt Narratives as pure bullshit. Alts only appreciate when BTC runs and brings money into the crypto market. BTC itself is a speculative asset with the narrative of digital gold. Alts are double speculative and need BTC to go up and then hope that BTC carries it along. They have no independent value in and of themselves. 12 years of data prove this fact. Denial will be a blood red river of tears of Alt Bagholders in a Bear Market. **ETH** > DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations will be the corporations of the future), Triple Halving, Supply Crunch, DeFi (Decentralized Finance will replace Traditional Finance), RWA, muh Institutions, the Plumbing of WallStreet.... Yet ETH price today is the same as May 2021. 4 1/2 years. Almost half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20210514/ Despite the bullshit narratives, ETH has no independant value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - No real appreciation in BTC bear market from 2015-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - 900% gain in 2021 BTC bull market - -70% dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2021 ATH again in 2025 when BTC bull runs to $120K **XRP** > Nostro/Vostro, ODL, the Standard, Global Settlement Currency, MoneyGram, SWIFT, Japanese Banks Yet XRP price today is the same as it was 8 years ago in 2017. Almost a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ Despite the bullshit narratives, XRP has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - -92% in BTC bear market from 2014-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - Modest rise in 2021 BTC bull market - Dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2018 ATH again in 2024 when BTC bull runs to $100K **LINK** > CCIP, CCID, VRF, CRE, SWIFT, Muh Town Crier will tell you the Truth, Hocus Pocus Oracles will serve you Truths from Golden Data Containers Yet LINK price today is the same as it was 5 years ago in 2020. Exactly half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20200815/ Despite the bullshit narratives, LINK has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun - -$2 to $20 ATH in 2020 when BTC went from $4K to $12K bouncing off the Covid lows and into tge halvening pump - ATH of ~$50 in 2021 BTC bullrun - -90% in 2022 BTC bear market - Left behind ever since

Emergency_Frosting55

I agree, the charts are reflecting a weaker ETH over the long term. There is still enough meat on the bone to justify a trade though. In time, I see SOL as the No. 2 crypto which is why I hold SOL and not ETH in my long term portfolio.

Amazing_Rice_954

BTC is done for this cycle. ETH and alts coming next. BTC is the only coin that is bound by the 4 year cycle. with every cycle it gets less power to control the rest. First to break free is gonna be ETH next year and have its own bull run.

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MinimalGravitas

> What apps are using ETH? Broadly you can divide Ethereum apps into two categories: * Mainstream adoption of Ethereum (e.g. companies like Deutsche Bank, Shopify, Sony etc: https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum/ * DeFi applications (e.g. onchain dApps like AAVE, Uniswap and Curve): https://defillama.com/chain/ethereum Those two sites have links to lots of the main projects running on Ethereum, but they don't include probably the biggest current use case by value - stablecoins. Visa have a dashboard tracking that: https://visaonchainanalytics.com/supply Then obviously there are huge applications that run on Ethereum but don't quite fit under the 'DeFi' umbrella, such as public goods funding (such as 'Gitcoin' - https://impact.gitcoin.co/). And of course all the pointless 'memecoins' and NFTs etc that are probably not worth considering as 'apps'!

Personal_Wafer36

I lost thousands in ETH when I bought in after the first dip, and then the second..but not the 3rd, and 4th..so I took my money out (while crying) and put the rest in Vanguard S&P 500. It was so nice on Friday to finally see my money going back up, instead of down, down, down daily. With Trump is office, crypto has just become another one of his crimes. He’s ruined everything he touches.

crossy1686

I think SOL will most likely trade within a range of 120-200 for the next year. It could go much higher if tokenization really catches on soon. I think the guys that are big into SOL have a price target of 1000 within 5 years. If SOL had the current market cap of ETH it's price would be 675. So I do think a huge move is doable, and out of all the networks, SOL seems to be positioned best to handle a huge amount of transactions within a few seconds. Personally I opened a position in SOL after doing some development work in the space and getting to grips with just how performant the tech is. I'll hold for long term though, once companies move to tokenization I can't see any other network being able to offer what SOL does.

Jealous_Inside_9984

What apps are using ETH?

HSuke

Something has intrinsic value if people would value it even if it had no price. For example, water and air are given freely, but they have huge intrinsic value. Bitcoin and XRP have practically no intrinsic value. They provide no utility. XRPL fees are so cheap that they generate no significant revenue. In contrast, even if no one were allowed to trade ETH, people would still want it so that they can use the application layer of Ethereum and build apps.

jazz_king_seb

Even for sending crypto between wallets, XRP being fast and cheap doesn’t give it real intrinsic value It’s terrible to build on compared to ETH & Sol & on top of that its centralised Yes, you pay a tiny fee in XRP for transactions, but it’s minuscule and mostly burned. Unlike Ethereum or Solana, where the native token is essential for running the network and paying validators, XRP isn’t required in a meaningful way. Its price exists mostly because people hope someone else will pay more for it later. Being fast and cheap alone does not make a crypto token truly valuable.

MaximumStudent1839

I like to think of it like what Celestia was. Back in the early innings of the bull market, the modular infrastructure was all the hype. People were hyped about how BIG DA consumption would be. So TIA pulled like a 10x+ from TGE. Over time, the real demand for DA for Celestia proved to be much lower than expected. Then, the marketing team pivoted to "modular money". It became incoherent over time because the execution L1s built on top of Celestia also had tokens competing for "money". Over time, Celestia slowly crashed from $20 to below $1. The value accrual thesis is a Frankenstein for Zcash. The first narrative is that they want Bitcoiners to think of it as a new SoV. I am not sure it makes any sense. A big portion of Bitcoiners always hated ETH for its premine, non-ossification, and PoS emission etc. They vehemently want to label ETH as a tech stock because ETH has upgrades and PoS. Zcash has PoS on its roadmap and further upgrades like enlarging its block size. It also has a premine and a previous dev mining tax. Don't see why their ETH critiques don't pass down to Zcash. Then there are Bitcoiners who are worried about the security budget issue and dislike alts for their centralization. Zcash faces the same problem with its hard cap and mining concentration. I don't understand how Zcash would crack this cultural barrier when ETH/LTC/XMR haven't. If you go through X, it is mostly alt shillers/KoLers shilling it as the next BTC. The other angle of SoV is that it is a fork of BTC with encryption. But there are already a hundred thousand different BTC forks, many with different permutations of technical additions. If you add a technical feature to a BTC fork, then it becomes the next BTC well, and then you would have a million different BTCs. Is the space ready to open this Pandora's Box? Are you ready to dilute BTC like Pump Fun did in diluting DOGE? You could make the argument, "privacy" is a high-demand feature, so we should treat it as a premium. But I don't see it in the data. In fact, private transactions on Zcash sit below 5%. Now, the second narrative is that it is the best platform to conceal transactions. First, it is debatable. Second, the token value accrual thesis is questionable. The argument is, it has the largest anonymity set in TVL for an encryption-based approach. Monero has the biggest TVL, but it uses the dummy approach. Alt L1s also have their native encryption-based protocols, but their TVL isn't as big as Zcash. This shortfall is a reflection of a lack of organic demand for privacy tech. If there is real demand for privacy, I don't see why ETH stuff like RailGun can't have higher TVL than Zcash. This Zcash TVL seems more like an artificial narrative building than organic demand. If it is just concealment, then people would just use it to transfer rather than hodl. You end up with a case like Litecoin - ppl just buy, transfer, and then sell. It is better to bet directly on intent solvers/LPs, not even NEAR TBH, to earn swap fees than hold Zcash. Generally, "crypto cash" is not a good narrative to bet on. I draw the comparison to Celestia because it is the earliest, biggest run getting hype way beyond what it shows the proportional substance.

devCheckingIn

I'm still waiting for ETH ETF staking approval. Like what is even the delay?