ETH

Objective-Choice6518

Maybe creating ETH was the best disguise ever

ScholarPlayful3421

I do 40% BTC 40% S&P500 10% International stocks 10% ETH

Bluejumprabbit

The staking ETF angle matters more because it changes portfolio construction. A spot ETH ETF with 3% to 4% staking yield starts competing with income producing assets from pure beta trades. That means allocators can justify larger weights and longer holding periods because the asset is paying them to stay in the position.

Itchy-Box-7378

ETH

yadius

This is why Proof of Work > Proof of Stake And the correct conjugation of ETH is ETHed

HoldCtrlW

Easy shorts on ETH >$2400. I don't think we're going higher this year.

OriginalOk2939

Do you think ETH, besides BTC, is worth buying in large quantities right now?

ofthephoenixx

The Reactive Network is what will change the game for ETH and the entire crypto space.

ComplexWrangler1346

I bought 10000 ETH for .50 cents on Coinbase in October 2015…..I retired in November 2021 at the age of 42

defeater33

No leverage. Just stay with ETH and BTC 90% or greater of crypto investments. Use monthly candle chart to buy at lows and sell on the highs for longterm. Don't get greedy. Big swings mean a lot money(50%-100%) while being safe.

SpontaneousDream

LOL I can't belive people still believe this utter bullshit. None of what you said matters when virtually zero value accrues to the ETH token. There are no spot buybacks of ETH using protocl revenue (which is peanuts anyways). Burns are easily offset by new issuance. ETH/BTC has been down for almost a decade...

RealCryptoCrank

Remember. We do not have quarterly reports for crypto like stocks. So when you “invest” the determining factor for the product is …does it still have devs working? Gaining partnerships? Being used in real world use cases? These are a must for me to even think about investing. My portfolio for institutional bullrun/institutional bear market is BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, TRX, HYPE.

Zestyclose-Suit-2858

SOL is even more garbage than ETH. At least ETH was kind of semi organic in its infancy (Vitalik was mad about his Warlock getting nerfed in WoW).

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HoldCtrlW

Please let's short ETH below $2400. We want to retest $1600 first before next leg up.

CaptainTrader32

Your take highlights the core shift: Ethereum’s story is increasingly about utility, not just price. Scaling upgrades (like proto-danksharding and beyond) are indeed aimed at drastically improving throughput and lowering costs via rollups, though “Visa-level” speed depends on how L2 adoption evolves. On ETFs, staking inclusion would be a meaningful structural change—turning ETH into a yield-bearing institutional asset—but it still depends on regulatory clarity. The BlackRock tokenization angle and stablecoin dominance also support Ethereum’s relevance.

decentralised_cash

Trust wallet is not to be trusted. Use BlueWallet for Bitcoin, MetaMask for ETH.

side0797

honestly the PAXG integration is the only reason i even bothered looking into the Base58 Labs docs . most platforms just offer the standard ETH/SOL liquid staking which you can get anywhere . bridging actual digital gold into a compliant yield-generating setup is something different. i signed up for the waitlist just to see if the early access benefits are actually worth it, but who knows how long until public launch. beats holding fiat right now anyway.

Unclebob9999

You are taking a gamble, that right now is looking pretty good, best of Luck. Biden destroyed the value of the Dollar by over printing, cyber coins have a lot of advantages over the dollar. Cyber currency has the potential to eliminate the majority of illegal financial transitions when combined with A.I. This would be an IRS dream come true and a nightmare for the Banks, and anyone currently working for cash to avoid paying taxes. ETH may have some advantages over Bitcoin in the future. We are pawns in the game and Big $$ and greedy Politicians can control which way things go in the future. So there are no sure things!

Cryptocaller

I participated in the Mainframe Token air drop and used multiple ETH addresses. I got $14k (peak ATH) of MFT in an airdrop and just sat on it as the price plummeted. Eventually I traded it all for 6 XMR. I participated in the BOMB token airdrop and received 200 BOMB which quickly ran to $14 per token making my free airdrop worth $2800. I just sat on it again but now those tokens are only worth $41 total. So those decisions did not work out at all. Well, aside from the 6 Monero tokens gained for free I suppose.

Lower-Instance-4372

the biggest thing i wish i understood earlier, custody matters more than returns early on. learn the difference between keeping crypto on an exchange vs. a self-custody wallet - exchanges like Coinbase and Kraken are fine to start but you don't truly own the assets. once you're comfortable, protocols like EtherFi let you stake ETH while keeping your own withdrawal keys, unlike Lido which holds them for you. start small, learn the basics, and don't rush.

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Post is by: No_Section_5137 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ssro1i/it_feels_like_the_gap_between_retail_defi_and/ been watching all these protocols struggle with liquidity lately and it’s honestly exhausting. retail is out here chasing a 4% yield on liquid staking while constantly worrying about bridge exploits or random depegs. i started looking into what the actual institutional money is doing right now and it's a completely different world. they aren't using the same front-ends we are. saw this report that a firm called Base58 Labs just pulled in $35M . they are building this institutional staking platform called Basis . what actually caught my attention is they are integrating PAXG right alongside standard stuff like SOL and ETH. it makes so much sense to hedge on-chain volatility with digital gold, but retail rarely gets access to that kind of secure infrastructure . i'm still trying to figure out exactly how their consensus layer handles the PAXG yield without exposing it to the usual smart contract risks, but they literally just finished private testing. it’s currently waitlisted so you can’t even stake anything yet, but early access is open . might be worth keeping tabs on just to see if early participants get any benefits. curious if anyone else is rotating into gold-backed tokens right now or if everyone is just riding out the crypto volatility? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Cryptocaller

They probably left out SOL because it sucks. 9 outages since inception in 2021 is wild. Keep shilling that crap and the rest of us will stick with ETH.

postys_back

All the more reason to pick xrp over ETH

yefuck

How do you go from BTC ETH and SOL to crap like PENGU and BOME. Not complaining just a strange 5 coins to discuss

Tall_Run_2814

Years back I was drunk and invested $100 into a random BS coin, I woke up the next day and my $100 was worth $1,100. I immediately sold and took the entire amount and bought 6.5 ETH which as of today is worth $15,600.

lurkinns

Easy eth 2500 as btc is above friday‘s level and stock markets also still up. ETH gapping up

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Post is by: ShockCatOnSol and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sspsgu/fear_at_32_while_btc_posts_3_and_sol_hits_88_the/ Fear & Greed at 32 but the market is going green across the board. This is not a reckless rally — this looks like accumulation wearing a fear mask. Today’s full signal breakdown: BTC — BUY. Conviction 68/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $76,500–$80,000. Target $95,000. +3% on $46.5B volume in a fear environment. That’s institutional accumulation not retail FOMO. Watch consecutive closes above $80K for confirmation. SOL — BUY. Conviction 71/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $83–$91. Target $135. +3.73% on $4.28B volume. Ecosystem generating $400M+ combined daily volume across meme coins. Most favorable large-cap setup in today’s report. ETH — HOLD. Conviction 52/100. Outperforming BTC on 24h at +4.21% which is mildly positive. But one green day doesn’t reverse months of underperformance. Watch ETH/BTC ratio above 0.030 for early alt rotation signal. PENGU — HOLD/WATCH. Conviction 55/100. +11.87% on 38% market cap volume. Genuine accumulation signal but don’t chase an 11% move. Watch $0.0080 hold over next 48h for confirmation. BOME — SELL. Conviction 28/100. +6.92% but 124% volume-to-market-cap. The entire coin changed hands in one day. Whales using the green candle to exit into retail liquidity. Loudest warning bell in today’s data. Fear at 32 is the admission price for the next leg. The patient holder recognizes that. The crowd will buy 40% higher and call it smart. Not financial advice. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Ok-Tooth-4994

We didn’t get a 2024/5 alt season cause 1. There’s a million alt coins. Buyers were diluted across infinite coins. 2. There wasn’t as many participants cause money was being made elsewhere. Stonks were ripping. Degens got their hits elsewhere. 3. Normies with relatively low net worth didn’t have the money to YOLO into alt-coins this cycle cause they struggled to pay their bills. 4. Who cares about stupid alt-coins? There’s some blue chip layer 1 alts, but those didn’t lose investors due to stables. They lost investors cause their narratives got cloudy for a minute. Don’t worry. ETH and SOL have bright futures.

HoldCtrlW

Easy short, don't let ETH go above $2400

Rock_Strongo

Do you want a free market or not? I've been around crypto long enough to remember when Coinbase was taking all sorts of heat because they only listed BTC, ETH, and LTC while other exchanges were offering 100 different coins already. Ultimately these are exchanges, as long as users are properly warned of the risks I don't think it is their moral duty to determine which of these coins are "legit" - considering roughly 90% of all coins are going to 0 in the long run.

ChangeHeroOfficial

people will always argue price but the staking ETF angle is the one worth watching. ETH sitting idle in funds is one thing, ETH locked for yield is a completely different supply story. the BlackRock tokenization choice is also hard to ignore, they don't pick chains randomly.

__redruM

There are investments that will almost always recover from their bottom. Stock market index funds certainly. If QQQ or VOO dips, it’s safe to buy. BTC and ETH may also have that luxury, though 2022 took a while to recover. But there’s no reason to expect a random crypto project to recover from a dip.

krfc89

Yup everything about ETH in upgrading, except for price since 2020 :) This is why I invested in it in first place

LiveSchiop

The premium on Binance P2P in India is brutal, like 3-5% sometimes which eats into your SIP gains pretty fast. I was in a similar spot and started checking other P2P platforms... ended up using BitValve for some of my buys and the spreads were noticeably tighter, though it depends on the day and available sellers tbh. As for SOL specifically... doing a SIP is fine in theory but you're putting all eggs in one basket. maybe split between SOL and ETH or BTC? just a thought. Tax wise you're looking at 30% flat on gains + 1% TDS on every transaction above 10k. Keep records of EVERY buy, the date, amount in INR, quantity. You'll need it at tax time. A lot of people ignore this and then panic during ITR filing lol Not financial advice obviously but the SIP approach itself is solid, dollar cost averaging works. The premium is your real enemy here.

Lower-Instance-4372

same tbh - after getting wrecked chasing narratives last cycle i basically stopped looking at anything that doesn't have real utility. been shifting toward ETH-based yield instead; staking via EtherFi earns standard staking rewards plus EigenLayer restaking on top, all non-custodial. Rocket Pool and Lido are solid options too, but EtherFi is the only major one where you keep your own validator withdrawal keys, which matters a lot to me.

crossy1686

“But the tech!” They all cried in unison. I think it’s been proven a million times over by now that no one actually cares about the tech because 90% don’t understand it, don’t care to understand it, and never will. The only thing people care about is the price action, especially the casual speculator. In your list you left out SOL, which totally ate ETH’s lunch for the entirety of last year. As with all these technologies, until there is a genuine use case that requires people to use the network without even realising they’re using the network the price action will be poor. In the future, companies are going to build on the blockchain more, look at prediction markets, some lean into crypto, some hide the fact they are crypto, but they’re all built of blockchains. This will happen more and more in the next few years, the question you need to ask yourself is will anyone bother to build this stuff on ETH or will they build on a network that’s more friendly?

LiquidityCompass

Good points on fundamentals, but markets don’t price “what could happen in 2026–2027” in a straight line. ETH having real usage and infrastructure is clear. The question is when that actually translates into flows and price, not just narratives. Right now it feels more like strong long-term story vs unclear short-term catalyst.

HoldCtrlW

Good time to short here. I've been shorting ETH since start of the month. Easy money, any time it goes up just short.

Classic-Direction778

lmao this is almost exactly my story except I didn't even have the conviction you did. I took a loan against my ETH in like mid 2022 because I wanted to buy a car and didn't want to sell. Then ETH kept dumping and suddenly I'm scrambling to top up collateral at 2am on a Tuesday. The car was nice though. Ended up just forgetting about the loan for a while, ETH came back, paid it off eventually and still have my stack. Sometimes the best strategy is just being too lazy to panic sell. Mine wasn't even a crypto decision really but I aped into SOL at like $9 because someone in a discord said "trust me." That's it. That was the research. Sold way too early obviously but still walked away up like 4x.

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Post is by: Electrical-Shape-266 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sslgj8/everyones_arguing_about_eth_price_and_nobodys/ Was scrolling last night and saw someone ask where ETH would be next year. The comments saying 5000, some saying back to 800. People focused on arguing about price but completely ignored what ETH is actually doing. ETH's biggest problem is slow. It can only handle about 30 transactions per second, it's slow and expensive, everyone knows. But the Ethereum team has two big upgrades planned for 2026 and when those are done it's not just a little bit faster, it's like dozens of times faster. Then there's another one coming in 2027 and by then the whole network should be processing transactions faster than swiping your Visa. Then it won't be slow or expensive to use anymore. Another thing people barely talk about is the ETF side. ETH ETFs already got approved, but the ETH inside them is basically just sitting there and cannot be staked. It is kind of like owning a stock that pays yield, except the fund tells you that yield does not go to you. The SEC has a new chair now and the tone has become a lot softer. If staking gets allowed in 2026, then institutions would not just be buying ETH to hold it. They would be buying something that can also earn yield. And once ETH inside ETFs gets locked up for staking, that means even less supply is out there to be sold. The on chain side kinda interesting too. BlackRock, which is about as big as it gets, chose Ethereum for tokenized assets. Not because ETH is the fastest chain, but because it has been around the longest and people trust it not to break. Stablecoins are still huge on Ethereum too, and every transfer uses ETH in some way. That is why I do not really buy the idea that ETH is only being propped up by speculation. There are still real things happening on it every day. And all those ETH killers everyone was hyped about? DOT ADA AVAX? Go look at them now. Meanwhile stuff that left Ethereum is coming back,like Polymarket and Synthetix. I was also watching the order book on bydfi for a while and buyers were way heavier than sellers. Price got down at one point and bounced right back up. Thats means down there is buying everything. I honestly don't know where ETH will be next year but it really feels like it's about to make some big moves *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

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Post is by: Any_Pomegranate1134 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sslc0g/what_is_the_most_traded_cryptocurrency_in_the/ he main trend shows that **institutional investors are currently the primary buyers** of both Bitcoin and Ethereum through regulated spot ETFs, with Ethereum attracting more new capital than Bitcoin in the most recent trading sessions . Here are the latest net flows for the US spot ETFs as of April 21, 2026: |Asset|Daily Net Inflow|Recent Streak| |:-|:-|:-| |**Bitcoin (BTC)**|**$11.8 million** |6 consecutive days of inflows | |**Ethereum (ETH)**|**$43.4 million** |9 consecutive days of inflows | # 🔍 Who is Buying Right Now? The buying activity is heavily concentrated among large institutions, with a clear leader emerging. * **BlackRock is the Dominant Buyer**: The world's largest asset manager is leading the charge for both assets. On April 21 alone, BlackRock's Bitcoin ETF (IBIT) saw **$39.3 million** in inflows, while its Ethereum products (ETHA and ETHB) pulled in over **$52 million** combined . A day earlier, on April 20, the firm bought over **3,350 BTC and 38,280 ETH** in a single day . * **MicroStrategy is a Major Corporate Buyer**: The business intelligence firm continues to aggressively accumulate Bitcoin. Over the recent week, MicroStrategy spent **$2.54 billion** to add **34,164 BTC** to its holdings, surpassing BlackRock to become the largest corporate holder of Bitcoin . * **Other Institutional Activity**: "Whales" (large holders) have accumulated over **45,000 Bitcoin** in the past week, the highest pace since July 2025 . Additionally, asset manager Bitmine added **101,627 ETH** in the third week of April, marking its largest single-week purchase of the year . # 📈 What's Driving These Flows? The movement of capital into crypto ETFs is being driven by a few key factors: * **ETF Momentum and Access**: Spot ETFs provide a familiar, regulated way for traditional institutions like pension funds and wealth managers to gain exposure to crypto without directly holding the assets . The recent consistent inflows indicate that many see current price levels as an attractive entry point . * **Macroeconomic and Political Climate**: The market has been buoyed by news that the US-Iran ceasefire has been extended, which has boosted overall market confidence . Furthermore, recent statements from Kevin Warsh, the nominee for Federal Reserve Chair, that "crypto is now part of the US financial system" have reinforced the asset class's growing mainstream acceptance . * **A Shift Towards Ethereum**: While Bitcoin ETFs have seen massive inflows in the past, the data for April 21 shows a clear rotation of *new* capital favoring Ethereum. This suggests institutional investors are now increasing their allocation to Ethereum, possibly viewing it as a more established part of a long-term crypto portfolio . This is supported by a 41% increase in Ethereum's daily transaction volume and the mint of 1 billion new USDT on its network, which are signs of growing on-chain activity . # 📊 A Note on Outflows and Mixed Signals It's important to note that not all products are seeing inflows. The positive net numbers are driven by a few specific funds, masking outflows from others. * **Grayscale's Products are Seeing Outflows**: The Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) and Ethereum Trust (ETHE) saw outflows of **$17.5 million** and **$12.1 million** respectively on April 21 . This is a long-running trend as investors move from Grayscale's higher-fee products to newer, cheaper spot ETFs. * **Mixed Flows Among Issuers**: While BlackRock is buying, other major issuers like Fidelity and Bitwise saw outflows from their Bitcoin ETFs on the same day, highlighting that strategies vary among institutions . In summary, institutional investors, led by **BlackRock** and **MicroStrategy**, are the primary buyers, accumulating both Bitcoin and Ethereum via spot ETFs. While Bitcoin has seen massive accumulation, **Ethereum is currently attracting more fresh capital** on a daily basis. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Spare-Dingo-531

I forgot to make a ethereum bottom prediction. https://www.tradingview.com/x/rU6ixp7J/ Ethereum has been in a parabolic downtrend against bitcoin since the merge. I think Bitcoin is subject to diminishing returns and crypto is inherently valuable, so I think Ethereum (which has the most adoption, most developer brainpower, and most advanced (by far) support ecosystem) will go up relative to bitcoin. That happens in 2027. The clarity act + dropping interest rates will also help out defi post-2027, which should support the ETH/BTC ratio. That being said, I think bitcoin crashes to 35K. And the ratio line is 0.0185. 35000*0.0185 is 650. So I think we see sub-700 Ethereum prices before the bear market ends.

Aerocryptic

That's a horrible take. Most of the people I know mostly invested in ETH in 2017. Maybe a few % on ICOs but I don't know a single person who was degen enough to go all in on these ICOs. Everyone knew that most were vaporware and would fail. Anyone who bought ETH between 2017 and 2020 made some very respectable gains. On the other hand the Solana trenches were full of memecoin maxis. Only a few of them made money from pumpfun

SeriousGains

TRON is actively working on it and will adopt well before ETH and BTC.

EdgeQuiet2199

Mid 50s BTC / $1.4k ETH isn’t a wild call, but feels a bit “old cycle logic.” With ETFs and bigger players now, dips don’t always get that deep. Also geopolitics isn’t one-directional — sometimes it actually supports BTC. Shorts can work, just feels risky waiting for a perfect bottom that may not come this time.

EdgeQuiet2199

No fixed ETH→Eclipse rate, it depends on when the swap happened. Price is down a lot from 2025 highs, so if they bought near the top, they’re likely in loss right now. Best way is to check the wallet/tx history — that’s the only way to get the exact value.

Choice_Potato_6279

Would you agree that ETH casino destroyed more lifes than all of the SOL meme coins and ponzis like Bitconnect? There was a ton of people here that in 2017 thought they are investing in the new worlwide decentralized infrastructure and put tons of money on Ethereum chain in ICO's. Pumpfun is attacked a lot, Terraluna whatever happened there... but I think the most normal people got destroyed on ETH, on pumpfun at least people know it's a casino.

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Lower-Instance-4372

i'd stop obsessing over price and focus earlier on making my holdings work passively - staking, yield, etc. i wasted years just holding and watching charts. now i have ETH staked through EtherFi, earning dual yield from both regular staking rewards and EigenLayer restaking, non-custodial the whole time. Rocket Pool is another great non-custodial option. the compounding from yield strategies does more for your stack long-term than most trades honestly.

Drumroll-PH

Good start. The main thing is don't check it every hour lol. If you ever want your crypto to do more than just sit there, ETH staking is worth exploring when you're ready. EtherFi and Rocket Pool both let you stake non custodially while keeping your own keys, unlike Lido or Coinbase staking where they hold them for you. For now though just hold, learn how self custody wallets work, and don't put in more than you can afford to lose.

MinimalGravitas

> Exclude everything centralized by outcome, because their blockchains are so bloated that **nodes are expensive to run,** which makes the node network very small - ETH and all the other so-called "smart chains" Where have you got this idea from? You can run an Ethereum node on a Raspberry Pi: https://ethereum-on-arm-documentation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html And there are many thousands running around the world: https://chainbound.grafana.net/public-dashboards/d001850804e1454fa24852c9dd82db97 I don't know the links for other ecosystems network dashboards, but I'm pretty sure that lots of other smart contract chains (e.g. Cardano, Cosmos, etc) also have low enough requirements that you can run nodes on Raspberry Pi equivalent hardware. Whoever told you that running nodes for Ethereum etc is expensive was just lying to you. They knew you wouldn't check and so just say whatever will manipulate you into investing more in the asset they hold. What other bullshit narratives have they fed you?

Liskpro_com

Great idea, bro! Long-term BTC/ETH exposure has historically outperformed most savings accounts, but the setup matters a lot. **Two main approaches people use:** Custodial account (e.g., Coinbase, Kraken): easiest to set up, but you're trusting a third party. Exchanges can freeze accounts, get hacked, change terms \[you name it\]. Fine for small amounts, but "not your keys, not your coins" really applies here. Not my preferred solution, especially for long term storage. Cold wallet (self-custody): more work upfront, but you fully control the funds. This is what most serious long-term holders recommend. I'm in this team for sure. For cold storage, a hardware wallet like a Satochip, Trezor or even Jade is worth considering. Do prefer HW that are open-source of course... By the way, the smartcard format is actually nice for this use case: easy to store in a safe or safety deposit box and forget about for years. On the volatility concern: totally valid. Dollar-cost averaging monthly (which you're already planning) helps a lot. Some people keep a small cash buffer alongside so kids aren't forced to sell at a bad time.

slop_drobbler

I’m thinking circa £30k bottom for BTC before the year ends, probably around October. Around £120k top in 2029, so the opportunity to make a 4x if you time the market perfectly. People thinking we’ve already hit the bottom, or that we’re moments away from another rally are delusional imo. Trump will find another crisis to manipulate the markets with after he gets bored with Iran. Don’t give a fuck about ETH, it’s not worth bothering with any more imo

VastJuice2949

Btc. Just buy BTC. Maybe ETH.

314_999

key take-away: - the board has high confidence this type of machine (Q- computers) will eventually be built - the real vulnerability is wallet-level (looking @ you BTC; an estimated 6.9 million coins are threatened - proof-of-stake chains have additional exposure (looking @ you ETH) - developing quantum-resistant alternatives is not the hard part, its rolling them out and with significant affects on transaction speed, storage, cost. (Analogy: Have fun putting a V10 into a Corolla. step 2: floor it ;) - migrating millions of wallets across decentralized networks, where every user has to take action, is a coordination challenge unlike anything traditional finance faces (looking @ you BTC)

ec265

This sounds like toxic maxi cope I’m all for meaningful discussion on these things, but simply dismissing things is not conducive to this ETH monetary policy has never changed; it has always been minimum viable issuance ETH issuance has only ever decreased; started high to bootstrap the network (just like Bitcoin) and then has been decreased, with the last decrease happening with the transition from PoW to PoS 4 years ago - it’s quite literally all part of the plan And Ethereum is more decentralised than Bitcoin; Antpool and Foundry have over 50% of hash rate combined, and this is increasing Foundry has mined 8 blocks in a row before which also increases the risk of a reorg Meanwhile Ethereum stake concentration is much better diversified But decentralisation extends beyond nodes; you are only as decentralised as your most centralised point 99% of Bitcoin nodes use the same client implementation, whereas Ethereum has many client teams and no one client has a supermajority (above 66%) Ethereum is the only blockchain to take client diversity seriously which is what makes it the most resilient blockchain

LeaderUnusual5049

ETH price prediction

pop-1988

Exclude everything that was launched as an airdrop by fraudulently inheriting the prior history of Bitcoin - BCH, BTG Exclude everything centralized by design - XRP and similar entrepreneurial projects Exclude everything centralized by outcome, because their blockchains are so bloated that nodes are expensive to run, which makes the node network very small - ETH and all the other so-called "smart chains" This leaves BTC, NMC, LTC, DOGE, XMR In recent years, apathy has led to developers drifting away from LTC and DOGE. They both still have large-enough node networks to be decentralized. But each of them is only one Core bug away from having zero nodes > the Price is volatile So? The price market isn't relevant to the question The software which runs on each Bitcoin node has no price-related functions The gold analogy is ludicrous

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1ss7s33/kelpdao_followup_arbitrum_froze_71m_of_the_stolen/ A lot has moved on the Kelp/Aave situation since Saturday so it's worth doing a proper update because the picture is meaningfully different from the initial chaos. **What's been recovered:** The Arbitrum Security Council executed an emergency freeze of 30,766 ETH (roughly $71 million) sitting in an attacker-controlled address on Arbitrum One on Monday night. The Council said it acted on input from law enforcement regarding the exploiter's identity. The funds have been moved to a governance-controlled wallet and can't be accessed without further Arbitrum governance action. That's about a quarter of the total stolen recovered so far. **The official bad debt picture:** [Aave Labs and risk management firm LlamaRisk published a formal incident report](https://news.bitcoin.com/incident-report-llamarisk-aave-service-providers-detail-kelp-rseth-hack-across-ethereum-and-arbitrum-markets/) on April 20 covering two scenarios. Scenario 1: if Kelp socializes losses across all rsETH holders, the token depegs roughly 15% and Aave is left with around $124 million in bad debt spread across 7 markets. Scenario 2: if losses are isolated to L2 networks, bad debt rises to approximately $230 million concentrated on Arbitrum and Mantle. Which scenario plays out depends entirely on how Kelp decides to allocate the shortfall: that decision hasn't been made yet. The attacker split the stolen rsETH across seven wallets, deposited across Aave V3 and borrowed \~$190 million in WETH and wstETH, with loan health factors sitting between 1.01 and 1.03. Those positions are still live and can't be meaningfully liquidated while rsETH is frozen. **Liquidity situation:** Aave's WETH pool on Ethereum Core V3 has been unfrozen: users can supply WETH again and some withdrawals are processing. However WETH remains frozen on Ethereum Prime, Arbitrum, Base, Mantle, and Linea. About $204 million in core USD liquidity was repaid within 48 hours as the panic subsided. AAVE token itself has recovered from a low of roughly $80 back to around $93 as confidence partially returned. **The structural exposure:** Aave's DAO treasury holds $181 million as of April 20. $62 million in ETH-correlated assets, $54 million in AAVE tokens, $52 million in stablecoins. The DAO generated $145 million in protocol revenue in 2025. Depending on which scenario unfolds, the treasury is either approximately sufficient to cover the shortfall or gets uncomfortably close to its limits. Service providers have already been securing indicative recovery commitments from ecosystem participants, which is the DeFi equivalent of calling in favours. The Kelp vs. LayerZero dispute over responsibility for the exploit is ongoing and unresolved. Kelp has not yet published how it plans to allocate losses. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

defeater33

Just stay with ETH and BTC 90% or greater of crypto investments. Use monthly candle chart to buy at lows and sell on the highs for longterm. Don't get greedy big swings mean a lot money while being safe.

gigabyteIO

This isn't about Algorand, stop coping. This is about ETH L2's being no better than banks.

artiface

ETH forked to revert the first DAO hack, so L1 is not really any better than L2, but that was the miners choice at the time so at least somewhat democratic.

Few-Sky-976

I started out buying Butcoin, ten years ago, and only regret that I didnt buy more. My strategy was to swing trade Bitcoin by buying at below the current median price (buy the dip) then sell once it rose to 10 or 15% above the median. Rinse and repeat, hundreds of times. This strategy was designed to increase my holdings, as BTC was very volatile years ago. Of course I had to pay shirt term capital gains every year, but I didnt vare, just as day traders dont care. Now, we have better options for buying the top 4 cryptocurrencies, as the wallet storage issues and crypto taxes are a nightmare, frankly. Instead of opening a Coinbase or Gemini or other account, you can just open a Fidelity or Robinhood or Webull account instead (Webull has great offers for new accounts, too), and then simply buy ticker IBIT (Bitcoin ETF) or ticker ETHA (Ethereum ETF) or ticker GSOL (Solana ETF) or ticker XRP (Ripple ETF) after you deposit USD into your new brokerage account. A simple buy and hold strategy where you use Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) to buy any of these 4, will allow you to hold crypto in ETFs, where you DO NOT HAVE TO DO CRYPTO TAXES. Instead, the brokerage will send you a 1099-B form at the end of each year, which is 20X easier than a complicated crypto tax return. I know, we do them every tear, and we have to use crypto tax software to summarize our gains. And here's the deal. The gains are the same essentially, minus a tiny ETF fee. Also, Coinbase or whatever exchange charges you a fee for every buy and every sale, so it works out to be the same capital gains purchasing via a crypto ETF with a brokerage account. This is a huge advantage that only recently became possible, when Bitcoin ETFs were launched, followed by ETH ETFs, then Solana, then XRP So, this was not even possible 4 yeaes ago, but it is now. Also, with a brokerage account, you can also invest in Strategy stock (ticker MSTR) and its new preferred dividend stock "Stretch", (ticker STRC), which pays an amazing 11.5% monthly dividend based upon MicroStrategy's Bitcoin holdings. So, it's now easy to have a 100% crypto based investment strategy using a brokerage account. Do it with a Roth IRA and it's an even better strategy.

SupernovaScoped

As much as I love Monero and am a huge supporter of the coin, it’s probably only pumping again cus some grandpa got scammed and the scammers are trying to wash their take. I’m a big fan of Lukso (LYX). It might be useless, but it’s definitely not a scam! It’s a carbon copy of ETH with some bells and whistles on it that might keep it ready for the future, for web3, should it ever take off

bitcoin_islander

Since when is ETH scarce

ColdOverYonder

ETH cannot be frozen at the protocol level. L2s are different. BTC doesn't technically need consensus for a fork to happen. Though it can be argued that a fork without consensus is simply a shitcoin. You're right, they're not the same.

Krazygamr

Until the ETH mainnet starts being able to cause those problems, it's not going to matter. It's just another service that people try to use that exists on top of the token. Another known business entity.. aka a bank, just sitting on top of ETH trying to pretend it's NOT a bank<insert hello fellow kids meme here>. Then everyone is all surprised when the thing pretending to be a bank on infrastructure not meant for banks gets wrecked. What did you think was going to happen? That the bank on a public blockchain wouldnt become public target #1 for everyone with the skills to hit it? With *no* repercussions? (because tracing the hackers who do this is difficult to say the least.) Until the community at large adopts a proper secure model for people to follow for establishing such operations on the blockchain that organizations can reliably follow, I highly doubt you'll ever stop hearing about this.

lumpy_der_hund

Cc, SUI, Hbar, Icp, Xrp & ETH only 💪🏻

TechCynical

this exact response is why crypto will never succeed. You have a clear cut case of actual fraud, harm, and possible future destruction caused by an authoritarian government. Money was stolen from every day people and will be used to basically fuel research to bomb and kill other people over seas. The only way to get this back is if 9/12 people distributed globally coming from different backgrounds, projects, and experiences VOTE to use a function built into the chain for cases exactly like this. A way to prevent harm that would ultimately cause extreme damage to the future of both their chain, and the broader ecosystem. Just so mention it again, this had to be voted on by people all over the world coming from different projects. but dont worry! redditor here is taking the moral high ground. What if they decided no one should have money!!!! dude what if they (ignoring they have literally never done this) just decide everyone should have 9999999 ETH! they can make all the rules dude bro its so unsafe man its literally never happened before and it requires a hyper majority of people from completely different projects its so its basically like 1 person deciding everything! these posts are so fucking annoying and 50% of my timeline is just people crying that PEOPLE VOTED to give money back from VICTIMS, of which NORTH KOREA STOLE. The us cant even force 50% of the council to do anything here so its completely worthless to bring up. And even if so, what makes you think if they would go that far than they wouldnt just do the same for any project? you think that the US gov wouldnt use quantum computing 5 years from now to just effectively rob every bitcoin wallet but they would round up people from across the globe to censor some transactions on some L2??

defeater33

You can use ETH chart simultaneously with BTC chart to control false signals. Fifferent percentages but ETH and BTC tend to go same direction. https://preview.redd.it/lvxa3bu7vlwg1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daa4dba771a150e9d9758420df42dba4667da1d1

ShockCatOnSol

Exactly the read on BTC confirmation - SOL’s thesis strengthens significantly above $80.5K. On PENGU, the IP angle is what separates it from pure narrative plays. ETH chopping zone is the right frame range trade or wait for the catalyst. The Grid is watching the ETH/BTC ratio as the real tell for when that changes.

Moist-Worry7308

I'm not sure I follow. Yes the $192m is bad debt, but how does that make the rsETH tokens invaluable? The whole point of aave is that debts are over collateralized, meaning the value of rsETH > the stolen ETH, and thus aave has a massive temporary imbalance of assets.

blastermckaster

Institutions trying to keep ETH above 2300 so hard. Let it free fall already for christ's sake.

igoldring

GNO, AAVE, STX, INJ, & ZBCN. GNO seems to be my safe bet at this point, it’s consolidating at 2022 bear market lows and its relation to ETH. AAVE is still the leader in DeFi and you could add Morpho if you’re looking to diversify in that sector. STX being approved by the SEC for their ICO is a plus for me. INJ I like here for R/R ratio. ZBCN is a very interesting due to their payroll and streamlined payments as a real time payroll/streaming finance infrastructure.

suckyuhhmada

SOL conviction at 3:1 r/R makes sense given the ecosystem momentum, but I'd want to see the $80.5k BTC breakout confirm before getting too aggressive. The PENGU narrative is interesting — IP-backed meme coins with genuine community have held up better than pure hype plays this cycle. ETH hold at 44/100 tracks with what I'm seeing too. The symmetric range suggests it's in a chopping zone rather than a trending one — good for range traders, rough if you're trying to catch a directional move.

Bodhisluttva

I’ve got about 1.5 ETH and 2,500 ADA from when I first got into this space. Haven’t bothered exchanging them and I’ll probably just let it ride. All BTC for years now.

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Post is by: ShockCatOnSol and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/u_ShockCatOnSol/comments/1srvqrt/fear_at_33_while_sol_and_pengu_flash_accumulation/ Today’s full signal breakdown: BTC — HOLD. Conviction 68/100. 2:1 R/R. Holding $75K with $43B volume in a Fear environment. Not the moment to add aggressively but absolutely not the moment to exit. Watch $80,500 for breakout confirmation. SOL — BUY. Conviction 63/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $82–$88. Target $128. Positive 24h print with $3.3B volume while broader market sits in Fear. Ecosystem meme activity elevated. Most favorable asymmetry of any major asset today. ETH — HOLD. Conviction 44/100. Underperforming BTC with negative 24h print. Symmetric range between $2,100 support and $2,700 resistance. Not compelling enough to add, not broken enough to exit. PENGU — BUY. Conviction 61/100. 3:1 R/R. Entry $0.0072–$0.0082. Target $0.0135. +3.71% on 30% market cap volume in a Fear market. IP-backed narrative with genuine accumulation signature. Clearest bullish divergence in today’s meme data. BOME — SELL. Conviction 18/100. 94% volume-to-market-cap on a -6.75% day. When 94% of a coin’s market cap trades in one red day the smart money already left. Distribution event unfolding now. Fear at 33 is where weak hands have already sold and strong hands haven’t bought yet. The setup lives in that gap. Not financial advice. Signal over noise. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

yefuck

ZEC, Dash, ZEN, BTC, LTC, ETH. but to be super clear I’m like 80% btc

ReliefPitiful9

Majority of my portfolio is Bitcoin but I have others such as ETH, SOL, Kaspa, HBAR, ADA and PAXG. Kaspa looks promising.

Mediocre-Home-2331

This is a solid breakdown and the cost-per-TVL framing is something more people need to internalize. The part about incentive structure mattering more than raw APY is so true. Most protocols just print tokens and hand them out, which creates this cycle where the rewards themselves become the sell pressure that kills the project. Its a death spiral dressed up as yield. Thats actually why i've been paying more attention to models that try to address sell pressure at the structural level instead of just ignoring it. One thing i've been looking into lately is OlympusX which hasnt launched yet but the design is interesting... instead of just hoping people dont dump, it captures market sells through a dynamic tax and routes that ETH back into treasury and staker rewards. They also allow users to chose their vesting schedule and become the VC, longer lock ups give better entries. Feels like the kind of thinking you're describing here but applied to the token itself rather than just the incentive layer. I hope to see more models like this in the future. Anyway good post, bookmarking

DaddyDontTakeNoMess

In that case, 80% in BTC, 10% in ETH, 10% in whatever you want to feed the alt itch. The alt itch is real, but sooner or later we all stop doing it, and BTC and chill. It's too hard to time the alts

noodlesystem

I’d be careful getting too anchored to previous cycle patterns this time. The structure has definitely changed with ETFs, institutional flows, and how quickly liquidity moves in and out. You still get drawdowns, but they don’t always line up cleanly with the old “predictable” cycle bottoms anymore. Mid 50s for BTC and 1400 for ETH isn’t crazy, but the market doesn’t need to go that low just to reset.

HoldCtrlW

Easy short on ETH here, back to $1600

Colekaine

I don't know about ETH but thinking mid 40s for BTC as absolute bottom and this would be generous from the previous cycles losing 75-80% value.

mujhebohotbhuklagih

Hope that whale isn't on Binance or the fees on a $90M position will be insane. I've been using bydfi for 6 years since it’s smoother for ETH perps, plus they have that $1M anniversary promo live right now.

Suspicious_Act4982

The Dencun upgrade is the missing context. L2s posting data cheaply means more transactions but less ETH burned per unit of activity. Volume up, burn down, price flat all makes sense once you understand that mechanic. The thesis is intact, just slower. Been stacking through it and parking idle ETH in nexo earning me yield while waiting for the next leg.

Repulsive_Counter_79

Update: The Arbitrum Security Council has taken emergency action to freeze the 30,766 ETH being held in the address on Arbitrum One that is connected to the KelpDAO exploit. The Security Council acted with input from law enforcement as to the exploiter’s identity, and, at all times, weighed its commitment to the security and integrity of the Arbitrum community without impacting any Arbitrum users or applications. After significant technical diligence and deliberation, the Security Council identified and executed a technical approach to move funds to safety without affecting any other chain state or Arbitrum users. As of April 20 11:26pm ET the funds have been successfully transferred to an intermediary frozen wallet. They are no longer accessible to the address that originally held the funds, and can only be moved by further action by Arbitrum governance, which will be coordinated with relevant parties.

Repulsive_Counter_79

I completely agree! the original dream of anonymous, private crypto is fading fast with KYC everywhere, traceable transactions, and endless regulation.But privacy tech didn’t die; it’s evolving. Me and my buddies are shipping AnomaPay (anomapay.app) delivers real private payments right now. You can send and receive existing assets like USDC, USDT, ETH and more on public chains such as BNB Chain.It uses Anoma’s intent-centric architecture plus Zcash-style zero-knowledge proofs so your details stay confidential.Everything is non-custodial, simple to use, and your assets stay secured on the original chain. sooo the ship hasn’t sailed yet. projects like ours are still building safe havens for privacy.

Repulsive_Counter_79

I completely agree! the original dream of anonymous, private crypto is fading fast with KYC everywhere, traceable transactions, and endless regulation.But privacy tech didn’t die; it’s evolving. Me and my buddies are building AnomaPay (anomapay.app) delivers real private payments right now.You can send and receive existing assets like USDC, USDT, ETH and more on public chains such as BNB Chain.It uses Anoma’s intent-centric architecture plus Zcash-style zero-knowledge proofs so your details stay confidential. Everything is non-custodial, simple to use, and your assets stay secured on the original chain. The ship hasn’t sailed yet, projects like ours are still building safe havens for privacy.

Lower-Instance-4372

that basket has some real tokenomics headwinds, especially FIL and AEVO which still have significant unlock pressure coming. if you're thinking about repositioning into something with more durable yield, ETH-based liquid restaking through Lido, Rocket Pool, or even better EtherFi generates real yield from actual network activity rather than depending on speculative token appreciation, and EtherFi specifically adds EigenLayer restaking rewards on top of base staking returns.

Slowleytakenusername

Not really a fan but I admit to not understanding it enough to have a well enough formed opinion on ETH.

Drumroll-PH

For ETH specifically, liquid restaking through EtherFi, Lido, or Rocket Pool lets you earn staking yield plus restaking rewards rather than just holding, with EtherFi adding EigenLayer rewards on top of base staking returns. For altcoin diversification more broadly, the track record favors blue-chip DeFi infrastructure over newer speculative tokens, and keeping position sizes smaller on anything outside the top 10 by market cap has historically helped a lot.

GeoSystemsDeveloper

The main ones (ETH, SOL, ADA, AVAX) and the privacy ones (ZEC, XMR)

Fit-Poet6736

currently holding stables, BTC & ETH and NEXO (strong utility and actual usage, check it)

Leading_Wafer9552

AI summary: \-What happened (the core event) Around April 18, a major DeFi hack (\~$290M) occurred in the Ethereum ecosystem. The target was a restaking protocol called “Kelp” (using restaked ETH). About 116,000+ restaked ETH was drained. \-The setup (why this system is complex) The exploit involved multiple stacked systems: Staking → ETH is locked. Liquid staking via Lido → creates tradable “stETH.” Restaking → adds another yield layer on top. Cross-chain bridges (e.g., LayerZero) → move assets across chains. Lending protocols → use tokens as collateral to borrow other assets. Each layer adds extra risk, especially when combined. \-The actual exploit (what went wrong) This was NOT a smart contract bug. Instead, it was a cross-chain message forgery attack: The attacker faked a message that looked legitimate. The system incorrectly trusted that message. Funds were released from escrow based on that fake signal. \-Key technical failure: The bridge used a “1-of-1 verifier” setup (only one validator confirming messages). Best practice would be multi-verifier (e.g., 3-of-5). With only one verifier, the attacker only needed to compromise or trick one point. \-How the attacker cashed out Instead of dumping tokens (which would crash price): Deposited stolen tokens into lending platforms. Borrowed real, liquid assets (like ETH) against them. Walked away with clean assets. Left bad collateral behind → creating system-wide debt. This is what caused contagion. \-The fallout (why it’s a big deal) \~$290M stolen directly. \~$13 billion in DeFi liquidity pulled within 48 hours. Multiple protocols affected (lending, staking, etc.). Created bad debt across the ecosystem. \-Who might be behind it Likely linked to the Lazarus Group (North Korea-backed). But attribution is not confirmed. \-Key lessons Bridges are a major vulnerability Especially weak verification setups. Complex DeFi stacking = hidden risk Individually safe systems can become unsafe together. Lending protocols amplify damage They act as an “exit liquidity” for attackers. Single-point verification is dangerous Multi-party validation is essential. Security focus is shifting Not just code bugs → system interactions & architecture flaws \-Advanced AI can: Analyze entire systems at once. Detect emergent vulnerabilities humans miss. Result: Hacks will likely increase, not decrease. \-Big takeaway This wasn’t just a hack—it exposed a structural issue: Modern DeFi risk comes from how systems interact, not just from bugs. And when something breaks: It doesn’t stay isolated It spreads across protocols → creating financial contagion

suckyuhhmada

Being selective makes a lot of sense here. Most alts are still trading on narrative momentum rather than actual fundamentals, and the ones that do hold up usually have real liquidity and user activity behind them. ETH and stables as your core while keeping a small watchlist of high-conviction plays is probably the right framework. Random but — when I was hunting for something with decent spot liquidity on a smaller cap recently, BitMart had it listed when others didn't. Not always the case but worth checking.

Drumroll-PH

Both assets behave more like long term cycles than entry point decisions. People who try to optimize for perfect timing usually end up sitting on the sidelines, while those who use a consistent approach (like small, regular buying over time) tend to avoid that pressure. Between BTC and ETH, they serve different roles: BTC is more macro/store-of-value driven, while ETH is more ecosystem and usage driven. Instead of trying to pick one perfect entry, it usually makes more sense to decide your time horizon and risk level first, then build exposure gradually rather than all at once.

Drumroll-PH

yeah metamask routing can get expensive fast, especially on smaller swaps where fee + slippage dominates. I usually cross check 1inch and CoW Swap first, then keep my longer term ETH position in EtherFi staking so I am not overtrading just to chase quotes.