ETH

herzmeister

you don't mention the most important aspect, a centralized setup means regulatory pressure will either force them to become a bank eventually (it's possible that one day you'll have to do KYC when you want to use Solana or ETH just like with any neo-bank), or (more likely) they will exit-scam when push comes to a shove. most shitcoins tell you they have the better "technology", but it was never about technology why legacy banking is expensive and slow, it is regulatory. as a proper bank you have to lawyer up and implement a lot of expensive compliance things.

jeremiahcp

This is stock, not crypto.. . . Major AI-related technology stocks such as Nvidia, Meta, Google, Amazon, Micron, TSMC, Oracle, and similar companies are not going to behave like crypto. They can be volatile, but they are still ownership stakes in real companies with revenue, assets, cash flow, customers, and products. Crypto, including Bitcoin, is fundamentally a speculative asset. That doesn't mean it can't be profitable. I am stacking ETH myself. But it should be treated as a speculative position because it is capable of massive swings in either direction that have little connection to underlying cash flow or earnings. For a tax-sheltered account with a 10+ year horizon, the primary focus should be long-term compounding through quality businesses. My view is that AI-related technology stocks are still the most logical place to concentrate growth. The AI infrastructure buildout is ongoing, data centers are still being constructed, and companies are investing enormous amounts of capital into labor force automation and AI deployment. If that trend continues, demand for semiconductors, memory, networking equipment, power infrastructure, and raw materials will continue to grow. If the AI boom succeeds, many of these companies will benefit directly. If the AI boom fails, the broader market will likely suffer, but speculative assets such as crypto will probably be hit even harder. That's why AI-related technology stocks make more sense as a core long-term growth allocation. Crypto can have a place in a portfolio, but it should not be treated as if it carries the same risk profile as established technology companies.

Sufficient-Rent9886

i think the harder lesson is deciding when to sell before you buy, not after the market moves against you. If your reason for buying BTC, ETH, and SOL hasn't changed, being down a little isn't automatically a reason to cut losses. A lot of people end up making emotional descisions when prices drop, then regret it later if the thesis was still intact. Personally, i'd be asking myself whether anything fundamental changed, or if it's just normal volatility, because those are very different situations. Nobody really knows when they'll come back or how high they'll go, thats the part that keeps all of us humble.

TheShadowInvestor

*L'analyse est solide. La structure de liquidité a effectivement changé.* *Mais il manque une conclusion pratique : si la saison des altcoins est morte, le retail n'a plus qu'une seule option rationnelle BTC, ETH, et passer à autre chose.* *Les gens cherchent le prochain 10x. Le marché leur a appris à chercher ça. Désapprendre prend du temps.* *The Shadow Investor*

InnerPepperInspector

Crypto has fundamentals? What's the P/E for ETH again?

InnerPepperInspector

If you have lost faith in ETH, you should sell now. Sunk cost fallacy and all

crossoverXYZ

The longer I'm in this space the more I've converged on a boring strategy: heavy allocation to BTC and ETH, small allocation to things I've actually researched deeply (not just seen shilled), and never investing more than I'd genuinely be fine losing. The people I know who've done best over multiple cycles are the patient ones with strong conviction, not the ones constantly rotating into the newest narrative. Execution discipline beats intelligence in this market almost every time.

a2ztimes

execute a swap directly on MetaMask to ETH or any stablecoin, you will see the final value on the swap screen

CryptoMemeEdu

The hardest lesson in crypto isn't about charts or tech — it's emotional discipline. Buying at the top and panic-selling at the bottom is probably the most expensive mistake you can make, and almost everyone does it at least once. What helped me: stop looking at USD value. Look at BTC/ETH ratios instead. If your stack grows in crypto terms, you're winning even when the dollar chart looks rough. Time in the market > timing the market, cliché as it is.

SpontaneousDream

It makes millions of dollars *every single day* and something like 97% of that money programatically buys spot Hype. It's the best tokenomics in crypto, by far. Also its the only coin making new ATHs against everything (BTC, ETH, USD, etc).

ConsciousSkyy

Believe what you want. Charts show a totally different picture. Market doesn’t value ETH as money, end of story.

Original-Read-6475

Lol sure. It could barely even reach its 2021 cycle peak during the 2025 bull market. For 2029 I predict a cycle top value of ~$4900. Look at the ETH/BTC chart and then tell me this coin has any value.

baIIern

Exactly. Doesn't happen to ETH 👍🏻

Crypto-Bets

Nope. XMR is not ideal for a terrorist organization, they wouldn’t be able to spend it & slippage would be massive. They should have stuck to Solana & ETH like most terrorist……

Pretend-Regret-7342

I am all in on ETH and SOL. I am currently borrowing against these tokens as collateral to get some money to spend for daily usage.

terp_studios

Sell ETH and Solana right now. Keep Bitcoin forever and just take loans out against it as it appreciates in fiat terms.

HSuke

That's because ETH has many testnets and goes through thorough testing. That being said, they have absolutely destroyed their testnets with bugs similar to this before. (E.g. Goerli and Holesky)

BillNye69

Since May 2021, BTC and ETH in my port. No growth

neverhodlHQ

El DCA con ajuste dinámico es inteligente, pero le falta una pieza: saber cuándo PARAR de acumular y empezar a proteger.   Tu spreadsheet optimiza la entrada. Pero sin una señal de salida basada en datos, en el próximo ciclo alcista vas a ver tus ETH hacer x5... y luego devolver el 80% porque "esta vez es diferente". Pasó en 2018, en 2021, y va a pasar otra vez.                              Lo que yo haría: añadir a tu modelo un indicador compuesto que combine on-chain (MVRV, NUPL) + macro (M2, Fear & Greed) + derivados (funding rates). Cuando ese indicador supere el percentil 75-80 histórico, tu spreadsheet debería invertir la lógica: en vez de "cuánto comprar esta semana", calcular "cuánto tomar de ganancias esta semana".                           Acumular es fácil. Todo el mundo se siente genio comprando el dip. La parte difícil — la que separa al 5% que realmente genera riqueza — es vender cuando todo tu timeline dice "vamos a $10K ETH".   Tu sistema de entrada es sólido. Ahora constrúyele el sistema de salida. Los datos existen solo hay que usarlos.

dflagella

Look into Circle's Arc L1 that aims to be an economic OS for stablecoin settlement. Existing L1s like ETH won't act as the settlement layer but will interact with it. I'd look at which existing L1 is taking significant market share of tokenization. I've always thought AVAX has potential here

steppe5

It doesn't happen to ETH 🤷

Invisible-Pepper349

Long term I still think BTC is the safer play, but ETH has more actual network utility. Only annoying thing is fees when activity spikes...think I’ve nearly paid more in gas than the deposit itself using ETH primarily on crypto casino͏ sites like St͏ake, Roo͏bet and my favourite Ace͏bet...

Scriptor87

ETH is actually undervalued. But with this I mean that it can reach 10-15k in a good bullrun. But 40k and more is a wild call. Sounds more promising to play the lottery…

Blackiris-Code

If they believe what they're saying, why aren't they buying more ETH themselves?

__redruM

Well they should start buying all the ETH they can at a the current price. Imma wait and see.

HoldCtrlW

Easy ETH short here.

counterboy12

Semi correct: A monolithic L1 like ETH might get modular with layer 2s, but it’s still not regarded as a real modular chain, since L2s come with different threats and faults

Odd-Orange-5122

So what's the play then? Just hold BTC and ETH and cry?

Anda-Tamarua

I’ll take altseason seriously when ETH/BTC stops looking like it needs therapy. Until then, every random alt pump is just rotation, not resurrection.

Expensive-Paint-9490

The main problem is that cryptocurrencies are easily manipulated (because of low loquidity and lack of regulations). This makes altcoins, even ETH, disproportionately more risky vs their potential larger gains. It means that BTC has a better investment profile overall. It won't make you rich in few years, not anymore.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

The stablecoin thesis makes more sense to me than chasing random narratives tbh. Feels like the boring “picks and shovels” side of crypto. ETH and TRON especially already have insane stablecoin usage compared to most chains people hype on here. I’d just be careful assuming usage automatically translates to price action the way people expect. Crypto loves disconnecting fundamentals from reality for months at a time.

KrustyLemon

But what would I even use ETH for?

12161986

I'd love to see ETH that high! Would absolutely love it! I understand the application and use of ETH way more than I understand BTCs and because of that I'm sure ETH will never rise above 5,000.

Extreme-Benefyt

ETH feels like the safer infra bet there. TRON moves a ton of USDT, but Justin Sun/governance vibes always feel a bit sketchy to me

RealMercuryRain

Per one ETH or the whole market share?

ChangeNOW_Community

ETH, BTC, DOGE don’t move in isolation , they move based on where risk appetite concentrates, not past drawdowns

cyger

They need to, so they can suppress the price via wintermute. Binance has done this repeatably with ETH and SOL, (NEVER BNB)

Azatis-

Watching my wallet : 1000 ETH Posting on X : Ethereum Price at $40,000 Despite ETH Slump I wonder why i post such things

Itslittlealexhorn

Core devs do care about ETH price since that ultimately secures the network. If ETH is too cheap then the network becomes vulnerable. But yeah, as long as it's expensive enough they don't really care about pushing the price and would rather improve throughput and user experience. That may be why the price has been lagging. There's no "CEO" here who feels an obligation toward stake holders to maximize profit. So even if the project is wildly successful, there's no guarantee that it will ever pay off for ETH holders.

CodyEngel

You're complaining about Crypto as a whole. It's incredibly easy and quick to send BTC from one address to another. What's not easy is when BTC needs to first convert to ETH or SOL or another protocol first. I don't disagree with the pain point buts it's also not for BTC to solve either.

brandonholm

Too many to count. Some that come to mind are ETH and other ERC-20s, LTC, XLM, and way back in the day were Feathercoin and Terracoin. I’m glad I never fell for the XRP or HBAR shams.

no_choice99

You are missing that when you stake using delegation, you give up your ETH to a smart contract. Your ETH won't be protected via your wallet anymore. It's a high risk for a little reward (around 1 percent APY). Not worth it in my case. About hardware wallet you're right, both open source hardware and software is an absolute must. If you have any doubt you can ask some AIs to analyze the security yourself if you're lacking technical knowledge, among other verifications.

troythedefender

🤷🏻‍♂️. People don't want to think or read, it's a reflection of society as a whole. Mindless herd. The herd is currently selling everything they own to buy a handful of grossly inflated tech stocks that will take a massive dump on them soon enough. The Trump era pump and dump market manipulation shell game can only last so long. To each his own, I'm not selling all crypto, if they weren't idiots they'd already be diversified into S&P and crypto. The number of posts in crypto group telling people to flee crypto and buy stocks is humorous - they want to pump those tech stocks to the max before selling - meanwhile they will be loading up their BTC and ETH etc. I'm enjoying the show nevertheless.

PenguinsInvading

Those are DeFi concept. Let's say you're buyingBTC, ETH, ARB, AVAX and a bunch of other coins for bullrun. Instead of sending them to your hard wallet and hope for 10k% in gains, you use some of your bag to generate even more coins. When I want to swap my ETH for ARB using DEX, there needs to be some ARB and some ETH in the dex so that my request gets filled. Who provides them in the dex? Me, you, whales, ordinary people etc. There has to be enough Liquidity in the asset pool. In DeFi, you can participate in this. You deposit your assets, people use your LP to swap, you get a percentage of the fees. Your assets generate money for you.

Capital-Assistance84

ETH is here to stay and it has a incredible future. I have been lurking this sub for a decade almost and this is just yet another cycle of fear on top of people being upset about the price action. The ebbs and flows of all markets can be a bitch sometimes but you got to stay mentally strong and cut through all the noise, stick to your values and what you believe in, Its going to be okay. I see ETH as a long term hold and the tech is clearly outpacing the rest of the crypto space. For what it is worth Vitalik holds 90% of his money in ETH still.

PenguinsInvading

Yest but remember if you're gonna borrow alt coin, you have to have a solid understanding of the current market conditions. If it's a bullish market you simply borrow stablecoin, convert them alt coins and create LPs or farm using them or trade. But for bear market you do the opposite, you borrow alts then swap to stablecoin. For the first scenario you do this because in a bulish market your assets are constantly creating higher highs and higher lows. So you pocket your profit and pay back the stablecoins your borrowed. BUT if you borrow alt coin, for example ETH, since it's a bullish market, the ETH has also gone up in price. You can apply the opposite for bear market. One key note: you have to correctly figure out marke trajectory. Otherwise you risk liquidation. Don't jump into defi without proper instructions. Start wuth small amout and figure things out.

BenzinaGrandeCapital

Sold 1 BTC and 10 ETH back when BTC was only 45k and ETH was 3k

theultimateusername

got really into leverage at the end of the last bullrun and was impatient, put around 2BTC, 15 ETH and around 100 BNB as collatoral for $100k trades at 10x. for some dumbass reason i shorted near the bottom (around 16k) expecting it to dip a couple of thousand dollars. of course it hit mid-15's and shot up from there and burned what would be around a quarter of a million dollars worth today. needless to say i dont leverage trade anymore 😃

vivalahueva1985

ETH is never comig back to ATH.... bitcoin might...any other crypto. I doubt. Too manipulated

ConsciousSkyy

It’s money because the market believes it’s money. Satoshi designed it as money. Why do you think governments, pension funds, companies, HNWIs, and millions of people around the world hodl BTC? Just for shits and giggles lol? ETH is not money, it’s a gas token that captures basically zero value 😂 You new here or something?

MinimalGravitas

The demand for blockspace is going to be a lot higher in the future. 4 months ago Larry Fink of Blackrock (the biggest asset manager in the world) was presenting at Davos to the WEF about his vision of bringing the entire financial system onto a single common blockchain. Since then Blackrock have filed for 2 more Ethereum based tokenization projects. UBS (the biggest private bank and wealth manager in the world) who were also there promoting a similar intention have also deployed multiple tokenization projects onto Ethereum, but more important than any specific one is that they are part of an international group of banks, regulators, and other financial institutions working under the banner of 'Project Guardian' to bring global finance onchain. In my opinion this project is one of the biggest 'hidden-in-plain-sight' pieces of 'alpha' that anyone in this space could be learning about at the moment. Unfortunately very few people can be bothered to do any research themselves and so will know nothing about it until an algorithm or influencer feeds it to them, by which point the opportunity to benefit will be gone... Other members of the group such as DBS (biggest bank in Singapore); Deutsche Bank (one of the biggest banks in Germany); and JPMorgan (3rd biggest asset manager in the world), have also deployed projects to Ethereum. Anyway, to make a long story short, real adoption is coming, and Ethereum is going to need the blockspace capacity that at the moment seems like an excess. Gas fees are low now because the network has futureproofed itself for the requirements that are coming. When expanding transaction volume start to approach the new upgraded limits we will again see the burn increase and the demand for ETH to pay for transactions increase again... however because the capacity and volume will both be so much higher than back in the first deflationary 'ultrasound' phase, the individual gas fee can be much lower to get to the same or greater overall total. So transaction costs won't be too high for users, while the burning of base fees can make ETH deflationary and so please holders... win-win for everyone. Ultimately, with 'STARKification', ZK provers and statelessness the chain's capacity can be increased almost arbitrarily highly without sacrificing the ability for a regular user to run a node and verify the network on low cost hardware. That is probably what will be required for the ultimate fulfillment of onboarding the majority of the global financial system to an open, permissionless, decentralized network. The more transactions there are the cheaper each one can be while maintaining the deflation of ETH. And obviously, we are talking about sophisticated financial entities, they will realize this too and so buy ETH based on the knowledge that it will have an increasing demand over time. And unlike BTC, the demand will not just be based on hope for an eternal sequence of 'greater fools', but on real need for the asset to pay for transactions. Hopefully that addresses your question sufficently. Don't you just get warm fuzzy feelings thinking about the world's economic institutions moving their assets onto a network that is at least in part secured by $200 DIY hardware running in random peoples' living rooms! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkrBARsNicI

Jayar9000

I always had him more as an ETH simp

Worried-Low4580

lol it’s funny you think pointing out parameters of the top 100 supports your argument. Yes, we will certainly see an altcoin season where the top 100 gets residual flows from the influx of formal capital investment. Comparing to 2024-25 is naive. The difference is that you are isolating a time period where formal institutions were making one by one exceptions and mostly for btc. These institutions did not broadly accept and jump into “crypto”, the jumped into btc and maybe ETH (for the most part). Once there is clarity across the industry, there will be a more wide spread effect that yes will impact the top100. Not the whole market but deff top 100. You been hanging in those btc maxi echo chambers too long

Starkey18

Is this fully recovered ETH still available?

oopssomething

Ok got liquidated didnt expect ETH to fully recover today

liquid_at

I think the classic "BTC" vs. "Alts" classification isn't working anymore. We have seen a split with ETH pulling up earlier and various classes following, one after the other. But I am still unsure if it will be an extended cycle with more steps, like BTC->highCap->Currency->governance->... or if it will be more of a spagetti-mix, with random projects popping off, giving some sympathy gains to adjacent projects, without any real predictability to it... What we can say though is that the multiplier for bitcoin has done about minus 2/3rd of the previous cycle, This means it would be the last time Bitcoin would go up over 100% in a single run, with the one following already being \~70%. This must affect alts also.

No_Knee3385

ETH and BTC are really some of the only chains that are decentralized, and even they are controlled by a few dozen companies

MediumLibrarian7100

ETH at the cycle lows is a smart move. Vitalik dropped a quantum roadmap recently I believe so it’s definitely here to stay.

thebalancewithin

Not dropping a dollar into alts at this point, maybe some ETH if it gets even lower but I'll just stake

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Upset_Albatross_9179

>The price action has been crap This connection had always seemed a bit strange to me. As you say, ETH has *a lot* of activity. It's very useful. But why should that be connected to the price of ETH? If lots of people want to buy and hold ETH, that drives up price. If there's a huge demand to have ETH to execute useful functions, that drives price up. But the if there's some innovation to make those transactions faster and easier, that makes ETH more useful and eases demand and probably drives down ETH price. It's a good thing for users if ETH is very useful. It's a good thing for investors in ETH price appreciates. It's really not clear to me that they have to or should be related.

w0j4k_

Like ETH was “dead” last year and then doubled in only a couple of months. If anything, now is a time to stack crypto. Many stocks are at an ATH, so now would literally be the worst time to get in. Why do people fail to see this? If I were OP, I would indeed hold on a little longer.

quintavious_danilo

BTC yes. ETH probably, but not sure.

Liberal_Bot123

Last time crypto dropped during last spring the fear mongering was crazy like it is now. It made me stay away even when my close friend was telling me to get in. ETH dropped to around $1500 at that time. My friend had big money in it while I avoided it after following what reddit was saying. Months later it shot to almost $5000. I woulda made a pretty penny. Never trust the haters on reddit during a bear market, you will lose out on good money.

MinimalGravitas

> But don't you think they will always keep the price down because they want to avoid high gas fees? Sort of, but that is only half of the equation. The number of transactions will be a lot higher so even if individual fees are low, the total will be high. Gas fees depend on whether or not the network is near or exceeding its capacity. A blockchain has a certain amount of space available for transactions in each block. If the volume of space available is higher than the demand the transactions can be arbitrarily cheap. The gas fee increases as a measure to prevent congestion by disincentivizing low value transactions when there is not much space available. Ethereum has over the last year or so increased the amount of capacity faster than the demand for blockspace, so there has been no congestion, gas has been cheap and so little ETH has been burned. Now there is much more space, so next time demand for capacity starts to catch up with the limit the total number of transactions will be a lot higher, that means that more ETH can be burned while each individual transaction can cost less, win-win. There is already much more gas being used on Ethereum L1 than at the height of the 'ultrasound' meme when the asset was most deflationary: https://etherscan.io/chart/gasused Next time we hit the capacity limit it seems very likey that the cause won't be from short term PFP NFT drops or memecoins, but from much more sustainable projects: https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum/

liftcookrepeat

BTC getting back to ATH in 12-24 months is possible, ETH feels less certain right now. You already did better than most by taking real gains before. I’d just make sure your sell targets still fit your goals, not emotions.

Epictricker2025

ETH looks done to me honestly. For BTC it depends. If BTC breaks way bellow 58k before next October it's probably also done. If it chops down to 58k slowly until October, then there's a chance it could come back strongly next year.

DankShibe

Alts 70-80% down since inauguration, ETH 50% down , BTC 35% down .

TripTryad

I understand your skepticism, but the OP is telling the truth. The only thing thats odd is that they are doing it for small amounts. I had this happen in the previous bear market (apparently thats when they started doing this in large quantities) but it only ever happened when I was moving several hundred thousand USD in transactions. It didn't matter what type of transaction, they would lock you for 2 to 4 weeks before you could do any sort of transaction OFF of their platform. You could trade on coinbase itself though just fine. For reference, I have a maximum verified account, and I have had my account since the GDAX days, looooong before Coinbase itself even offered altcoins. We are talking about the days when all they carried was ETH, BTC and LTC. You cant have a more verified account than I have. And not even I was spared this runaround. But as long as I kept any amount of BTC/Fiat transactions below $100k then it seemed to be fine. I made reddit posts there on their subreddit if you just want to verify it by checking my profile. I only bother to say this to warn you so you don't end up in the same situation. Be careful with coinbase....

_Commando_

At this rate we'll be posting MEME's about $300 ETH again...

oopssomething

Yesterday morning I predicted ETH would go under $2k today. Wow crypto so hard, no one knows anything...lol

Radiant-Place-6400

man last year i watched ETH go to like 1300 when I was full ported , thought it was over then it went to like 4500 just be patient

devCheckingIn

Tom Lee said the other day that he thinks the ETH chart is inversely correlated to oil. These copes are getting fantastic.

Serenaded

Lol, no. You withdraw the USDC into Polygon or ETH, then you use a tumbler to turn into Monero and you've disappeared. And vice versa. It's actually very easily UNtrackable.

Horror-Tower9460

Trump bought 47 million of ETH

Horror-Tower9460

Trump bought 47 million of ETH

Horror-Tower9460

Trump bought 47 million of ETH

Opportunityfind3r

BTC and ETH DCA is exactly the right starting point. Forget price levels for now - consistent buying over time beats trying to time entries every single cycle.

devCheckingIn

ETFs... not ETH.

Solid-Individual-913

I will tell you what I told my nephew. He is 19 and he started his first job and he started investing. The best thing to do is invest consistently. Buy VOO and never sell. 1Y performance is 27%. YTD is 9.82%. Chasing big gains is a matter of luck in a way. Index funds are boring but that's the easiest way to learn the dynamics. After you have some of that you can explore your risk appetite. I started with stocks. I invested in ETH a couple years later. Not because I wanted big gains. I got bigger gains that I expected to be quite honest. I got in at like 900 in 2017. It climbed to 1400 then collapsed for years in 2018. But I invested in ETH because I wanted the tech to win. I wanted decentralized applications, decentralized social media, decentralized ID and all the things eth promised to do that failed to materialize. So my point is we cannot predict the future. I invest after I pay all my bills. I have safety cushion too in case I get messed up. For example I got vehicle repairs and they are 2.5k. But that doesn't affect me because I have more than enough to cover it. Now this may be getting too long so I'll keep it short for you. tl;dr Pay your bills first. Invest money after everything is paid and you have a safety cushion. Never invest more than you are willing to lose. Don't get in debt to leverage. That's the easiest way to get massive losses. And then finally buy for the long term and just don't sell until you want to. Don't follow hype.

MaximumGenie

the framework you described is basically how ETH liquid restaking works, which is none of the only yield categories that actually checks all those boxes. EtherFi's eETH earns yield from real validator work on Ethereum plus EigenLayer restaking on top, paid in ETH not the native token, no lockup, and it's been running on mainnet long enough to have a track record. Yearn and Aave generate real yield too but they don't stack dual sources the same way, and EtherFi is the largest LRT by TVL if you want a signal adoption

TRASHTALKINGCOCKSTAR

Needs to get done by August because congress will turn its attention to campaigning for midterms by then. My prediction is if it doesn’t get done, the bear market drags on for another couple years. If it gets done, I think we will see a bull market for BTC/ETH with new pools of institutional capital coming in. I could be super wrong about that though, please DYOR!

account009988

Sell. Solana is down only against BTC and ETH.

oopssomething

Love this even in this state inverting the Daily still is profitable. Think because no one 'new' will ever come here, and if they do and start reading the pinned 'usefull links', mostly about Moo s and how they will pump ETH. They leave as fast as they can.

Warm_Pressure_3977

There was actually a small ALT cycle around April 2024 and little in 2025. I don't think it's the ALT cycle that was the issue but more the drop that followed. Most Alts are down 90%. Will they come back? Honestly, I agree with you and say no. Meme crazy is done. Retail has been burned. Useful projects - ETH, SOL - which both have issues, NEAR, and others in top 100 - possibly but even some of them will vanish. BTC will be fine. True, alt run in in earlier cycles was during QE not QT. Rates are higher, everything costs more and lots of macro uncertainity. If that goes away, can we run? Sure. Too bad it won't be for a long time.

QuirkyGlove3326

Buying anything other than BTC or ETH.

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Post is by: Ced-Invest and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1tpbq4t/anyone_using_ai_tools_to_crosscheck_their_smc/ Curious what tools people here are running to validate their SMC structure work. I picked up the habit of cross-checking my own reads against an AI analyzer after marking the wrong leg on a daily range twice last month. Posting in case it is useful, and in case someone has a better workflow than mine. The one I have been running on BTC and ETH for the past 3 weeks: https://investisseur2-0.com/en/smc-ai-analyzer. Free, no signup, you paste a chart screenshot. What it does well: liquidity pool tagging (SSL, BSL, equal highs and lows), FVG detection on H4 and Daily, last BOS and CHoCH, and a non-binding bias derived from the structural read. The FVG auto-marking is where it saves me time. I tend to miss small displacement FVGs when I am tired. What it still fails on: OTE premium and discount when the swing range is ambiguous (which leg do you measure?), order block versus breaker block in choppy zones, Wyckoff phase C nuance (spring versus failed spring), and anything narrative-aware. It does not know ETF flows or macro context. Sanity check on today's BTC tape: it tagged the $73.8K to $74K SSL pool as next draw, FVG April 24 at $76.8K to $77.4K unfilled below, $584M long liquidation cluster sitting on the sweep target. Matches what I had marked manually. The structural read is solid. Where it falls short is flow context. Six straight days of BTC ETF outflows, $1.26B gone, 2026 net inflows collapsed from the $2.44B April record to $536M. Pure SMC reads structure not flow. The tool stayed structure-bullish while the flow says institutions are reducing risk. Anyone else running their charts through an AI analyzer? What are you using, and where have you seen yours break? Especially curious about anyone running the same framework across FX and crypto. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

LargeSnorlax

Any measure of decentralization is centralization - There's no way around that. If you're relying on a middleman, it's not decentralized, so arguing whether ARB or SOL or TRX or SHIB is more decentralized doesn't really mean anything, they're all the same. > The only way you can be censored is if 8/12 people across the globe from different backgrounds and countries decide otherwise (which is higher than bitcoins 3 required mining pool takeover). The Arbitrum foundation literally controls the chain. Mining pools are not people, this is another tired argument that makes literally no sense and you would never make it if you were ever in a mining pool, since you'd know that your miners have autonomy and you can point them at whatever you want. > Also 40 cents is fucking wild and completely out of touch. Can you imagine if every time you paid at the store 40 cents was a tax you had to pay? You're eating this and more every time you use a credit or debit card, it's just hidden by the store owner like you said. These companies have really good PR, but I promise you that you're paying for their services and that they make absolute bank from you doing so. > Now imagine the average day person USING crypto """currency""". It's the main reason this shit will never be adopted with Bitcoin being the main thing exposed to everyday people. The average person is never using, and will never use cryptocurrency. First - They don't understand what Cryptocurrency is, let alone its purpose. The average person is a complete moron who walks into poles in the street and falls down staircases looking at their phone. Yesterday a girl on her phone faceplanted into a glass window trying to walk through a revolving door, missed the door entirely, then got stuck inside the revolving door because she couldn't pay attention for 2 seconds to push it. That's the average person, a numbskull who evolved the minimum way possible to not get hit by a bus every time they step out their door. They're not going to adopt Bitcoin, they never would in a million years. They listen to Fox news telling them Barack Hussein Obama is the antichrist and donate to pedophiles who tell them they talk to a man in the sky. > Look in just saying the best way for the space to evolve is just get people onboarded to something like ETH first or its most decentralized L2 first aka arbitrum. The best way in this space if you're using these metrics is tell them to use NANO. It's literally free. Make a wallet, I'll send you NANO. Whee, cryptocurrency! It's how I've onboarded many people, and the best thing is, they don't have to worry about decentralization, cost, or speed. It's perfect on all counts! The thing is, NANO doesn't stand up on its own for a reason - What do you think that reason is? The reason is - No one cares about decentralization, cost or speed. If all you use it for is payments, why does it have a value? Why not make it a stablecoin? Why would its price ever need to go up, or down? There's a reason cryptocurrency was *always* niche, and why it will remain niche forever, despite any adoption or regulation - The average person is a moron.

TechCynical

Again this whole thing revolves around people treating centralization as this ultra binary thing. You can be less decentralized than the other guy but still decentralized. With arbitrum you can be still protected and still force your transactions even during a chain outage. The only way you can be censored is if 8/12 people across the globe from different backgrounds and countries decide otherwise (which is higher than bitcoins 3 required mining pool takeover). So in these 2 scenarios it still takes just a handful of people to decide they want you to have a bad day. Also 40 cents is fucking wild and completely out of touch. Can you imagine if every time you paid at the store 40 cents was a tax you had to pay? Credit card costs already increased this but stores kept the increased cost anyway just because people spend more anyway the more convenient and easy paying for something is. Now imagine the average day person USING crypto """currency""". It's the main reason this shit will never be adopted with Bitcoin being the main thing exposed to everyday people. Look in just saying the best way for the space to evolve is just get people onboarded to something like ETH first or its most decentralized L2 first aka arbitrum. Someone's first impression of the future of money should take 10 minutes to deem it safe as gone though and cost you $30 a month to use and has near 0 ecosystem for apps built on top of it. That sounds like some start VC funded scam except no it's Bitcoin and it gets a free pass for being dog shit at everything except just 1 thing 99% of people don't even care for clearly.

TechCynical

well I do. my entire comment was complaining that our poster boy for convincing the masses to use decentralized CURRENCY is the slowest and most dog shit at being currency for 99% of people on this earth. We cry about someone in a hut in the poor countries not being able to run a node but then make it to expensive for them to use the currency everyday. Cant you see the irony of that? Its a complete failure of vision and design and people are just coping and moving the goal post now to say ohhh it was never supposed to be ACTUALLY usable!!!! only the 1% should be able to viciously spend it! poor people like you are only supposed to use it every 90 days for it :3333333. Seriously how can we possible convince the everyday man to adopt digital currency when 80% of people on subreddits like this are focused on telling people everything else but bitcoin is a scam, so then they try to use bitcoin day to day and if more than 5 people do that then they spend so much on fees they just drop crypto altogether. this discussion makes me so heated cause its so fucking stupid. We had a good thing and we just completely killed it and now its just some equivalent to labubus on a computer. BCH is equally just as stupid because its a minority vision of a dog shit chain. Bitcoin didnt just need 2mb blocks, getting faster block times and more was also equally as important. If there are any payments the most logical way to do them right now is using arbitrum and whatever stable / ether for payments. That way you can get sub $0.001 payment costs and have transactions that fully confirm in 250 miliseconds. And if someone is so concerned about something that has yet to happen so far like the government forcing the chain down or something, you can just do the same on ETH. Itll be just as expensive but at least you only have to wait 1/45th the amount of time and is basically the speed of a tap to pay at the store counter.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

There goes BTC's security budget. Meanwhile ETH staking supply is at an ATH. BTC is trading at a 6x snowflake premium against ETH.

jazy510

> Barely over it's last all time high it hit 0.14 BTC / ETH back in June 2017....

rv009

I don't think that gonna happen. And I bought this when Cardano launched was a full cheerleader of the project etc etc.... But it just hasn't done anything. Not even a stable coin yet a real one not these random ones..... Held all this time but I'm gonna bounce. It's pretty obvious to me that the winners of this is Bitcoin ETH and maybe Solana.  Even ETH to be honest is a disappointment. Barely over it's last all time high.....lol Next cycle I'm out of altcoins completely....

Rare_Rich6713

ETH is just talking about quantum resistant while QAN has been on it for years, ETH need to catch up faster and the price has been the same for years.

gCAN9

I've been using etherfi for a long time now and really happy with them. 3% instant on-chain cashback in USDC and ETH. And around 5% yield on funds (historically 10% but it has gone down as yields generally decreased in the market - still great getting yield + cashback on money you'd spend anyway) I posted a review on X earlier today [https://x.com/gCAN9k/status/2059581190827368841](https://x.com/gCAN9k/status/2059581190827368841)

First_Sock7249

It'd require a hard fork and the support of the majority of the community. Like ETH after the DAO hack

Spare-Dingo-531

> the true value proposition behind BTC is that it is limited in supply. The limited supply will be BTC's downfall. Once the security budget gets low enough, bitcoin will get reorganized by monero. Furthermore, because bitcoin has limited supply, each halving has diminishing returns. This is something you can even measure and quantify. The diminishing returns of each halving should catch up with bitcoin in the next 4 years, this previous cycle was the final cycle to get any returns. > of the fundamentalists have been stubborningly focused on not caring about price because they think it will follow with utility This is the reason why ETH is the L1 with the second highest market cap and the main reason why Ethereum will overtake Bitcoin one day.

turbo5vz

I'm an ETH holder, but have to admit that from a price action standpoint the true value proposition behind BTC is that it is limited in supply. Otherwise, BTC has mostly failed in all other practical utility aspects. ETH can do far more in all areas, but the hype stage has long been over. It took years just to somewhat taper off the inflation stages after staking. Alot of the fundamentalists have been stubborningly focused on not caring about price because they think it will follow with utility.

oopssomething

Today we will finally see ETH under $2k, might close half my short at market open to cover my roll over fees.

TechCynical

The ethereum foundation (EF) has been regularly clowned on for selling lots of ETH on the open market. Cowswap is usually one of the protocols they use which lets them get their sell filled from hundreds of competing bidders. Whoever can fill the best rate for the EF's order gets filled. That could mean private liquidity, on chain dexs, aggregators, or all of them combined. But yeah tldr eth foundation selling tokens using a onchain swap