ETH

JerseyRunner

You started with a lie. When was the last time ETH staking yield was 3-4%?

Green_Ad9723

It's really great, I'm so happy!!! So many people are still thinking about diversifying into fiat products!!! That tells me I'm very early with BTC... early with Bitcoin!!! People, everything can be multiplied indefinitely, the stocks, the SX, everything rises just because inflation is rising!!! Fiat is worthless and infinitely expandable, everything, really everything. Gold and silver are still 90% in the ground... Bitcoin is limited to 21 million... If you're really scared, buy a house and a few toys, the rest in 99% BTC, 1% ETH, SOL, and BNB. You'll all get as much money as you need!!!

Fast-Show6083

You will only get problems using mixers, it's currently outdated, I used railgun and sent to coinbase and it took 1 month+ to unlock my funds. If you want privacy just do ETH>XMR>ETH via [Darkchange](http://Darkchange.io) that's the smoothest option by today.

olduvai_man

Usually ETH or Polygon. If it's a stablecoin and I'm going to do a withdrawal to fiat, then I send to KTA and wire to my bank from there.

focal78

# Key Insights from the Cryptocurrency Market Report * **Bitcoin (BTC)** maintains its dominance with a market cap of **$1.79 trillion**, despite a **2.37%** price drop in the last 24 hours. * **Ethereum (ETH)** faces a **3.63%** decline, with net ETF outflows of **-$98.3 million**, indicating cautious investor sentiment. * **Solana (SOL)** shows rising interest in derivatives with a **1.92%** increase in open interest, even amidst a **3.06%** price decrease. **Explore insights on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and more!** [Report](https://askfocal.com/focal/workflows/reports/13933?is_legacy_report=false&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=marketintelligence&utm_content=mi-0108)

RastaBooties

From Binance Audit page for WLFI: **Cautions** **Blacklist Restrictions Found** **BSC** ⚠️ Blacklist restrictions allow the contract to restrict users' transactions by blacklisting their addresses. **On-Chain Token Trading May Be Paused** **BSC** ⚠️ According to the token rules, trading may be paused via smart contracts, preventing on-chain buys or sells. **Mintable Detected** **BSC** ⚠️ Mintable function means token total supply can be increased, which may affect token price. **Contract Upgradeable** **BSC** ⚠️ Upgradeable contract means the token contract can potentially change rules and may introduce malicious functions. **Blacklist Restrictions Found** **ETH** ⚠️ Blacklist restrictions allow the contract to restrict users' transactions by blacklisting their addresses. **On-Chain Token Trading May Be Paused** **ETH** ⚠️ According to the token rules, trading may be paused via smart contracts, preventing on-chain buys or sells. **Mintable Detected** **ETH** ⚠️ Mintable function means token total supply can be increased, which may affect token price. **Contract Upgradeable** **ETH** ⚠️ Upgradeable contract means the token contract can potentially change rules and may introduce malicious functions. I don't understand why people are buying this shit

deilasi

You don’t sound dumb at all — this is a very normal question. What you’re seeing is usually a mix of **liquidity loosening + risk-on sentiment**. When BTC and ETH start moving, money often rotates into alts, so it *feels* like “everything is pumping at once.” The tricky part is that **price going up ≠ good entry**. A lot of people lose money by buying simply because things are green. If you’re unsure, learning *while* being lightly exposed is often better than going all-in or staying completely out. Holding small amounts of ETH is already a solid way to learn how cycles and volatility feel in real time. Instead of asking “what coin should I buy,” it can help to ask: * What problem does this project solve? * Does it have real users or revenue? * Is it infrastructure, an app, or just hype? There’s no rush. Markets will always give you another opportunity. Protecting capital matters more than catching every pump.

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Aerocryptic

You work on an hypothesis that ETH deserves a higher pricing against btc. That’s just an hypothesis. The market doesn’t agree with your hypothesis yet. Everyone has called for an ethbtc run since 2023. And yet it never really happened besides last summer relief rally. After ethbtc dumped close to its 2019 low Long term security plan for btc remains a long term issue and won’t have any consequence in the next couple of years.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

There are only \~6 ETH for every 1 BTC in existence, yet BTC is trading for 28+ ETH. That’s a massive distortion. Historically, the average has been closer to 20 ETH per BTC over the past 8 years. By any relative measure, BTC is stretched and ETH is deeply underpriced. A repricing is overdue. ETH has stronger and clearer fundamentals. Meanwhile, Bitcoin has a real, unresolved security problem looming as block rewards keep halving. How exactly are miners supposed to pay for electricity, hardware, and infrastructure when subsidies dry up? It’s no coincidence many are pivoting to AI workloads. This is an uncomfortable topic for BTC maxis, but it’s a structural risk whether they like it or not. Macro is also shifting. M2 velocity is rising. QT has effectively stopped. Trump is openly signaling a “run it hot” economy going into the election. This is classic late-cycle liquidity behavior. And let’s be honest: alts have been bled dry for 4 years while BTC has enjoyed green after green. That’s exactly when you buy - when sentiment is trash and nobody wants them. “Blood in the streets” isn’t a meme, it’s a strategy. Now is a great time to rotate some BTC profits into quality alts that are priced for disaster. Risk is in being late, not early. [https://ca.investing.com/analysis/markets-are-pricing-a-sovereign-debt-trap-in-real-time-200621118](https://ca.investing.com/analysis/markets-are-pricing-a-sovereign-debt-trap-in-real-time-200621118)

Rare_Rich6713

You’re not alone ETH’s technology and real-world usage have improved massively, but price doesn’t always reflect that right away. A lot of capital still sits in BTC and speculation, not fundamentals. Also think about projects like xMoney that help bring real utility like payments, easier UX, native settlement that’s the kind of demand that should actually move markets but still price is very low.

Rodrixh

I got 1 ETH sitting on an old ledger. Dipping this into Patos and still DCAing $35 a week.

SeriousGains

Just imagine how much it will be when ETH reaches 250k as Tom Lee says it will.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitmine has staked an additional 19,200 ETH worth $60 million, bringing its total staked Ethereum to 827,008 ETH, valued at $2.62 billion. The company now holds over 4 million ETH, making it the largest corporate ETH holder. This move aligns with Bitmine's strategy to expand its Ethereum-focused treasury and prepare for the launch of its U.S.-based validator network in 2026. The staking activity highlights Bitmine's commitment to Ethereum, though concerns about centralization have been raised due to the concentration of staking in corporate-controlled validators. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

CloudStrikes12

I could see this making sense. ETH moving towards 10k ETH will bring in massive inflows to other Alts. NSDQ is one that hasn't gone parabolic yet but has shown organic growth, price action, survivability, and memetics. Solid bet for risk/reward

Fabulous-Wasabi-9358

Never understood the concept of not putting anything you cannot afford to lose into Bitcoin and crypto. As you rightly pointed out, fiat is dying too. Stocks are just as risky. So what's left, ETF's and commodities? I have gone all in on BTC and ETH. Guess time will tell if I retire comfortably or in a gutter.

seascalex

There isn’t really a single “DEX” that natively swaps across chains. Once you go cross-chain, you’re always involving bridges under the hood. That’s why aggregators exist. Instead of forcing you to learn which bridge works for BSC → Polygon or ETH → Tron, they just route it for you. For US users stuck with BSC, that’s usually the least painful path. I’ve seen people use stuff like LI.FI or Jumper, but Rubic is also pretty practical here since it supports BSC and non-EVM routes and doesn’t add extra protocol fees on small swaps. You connect a wallet, pick chains, done. r/Rubic has a few threads from US users dealing with the same Binance access issue. If you’re cashing out gambling deposits from BSC, the key is minimizing hops. Don’t bridge twice if you don’t have to. Cross-chain isn’t elegant yet, but aggregators are the closest thing to “it just works” right now.

AnaHedgerow

First: invest in a cold wallet to store your crypto safely. My fav is Tangem. Second: stick to majors like BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP. Third: don’t reply to DMs, that’s how people get scammed.

pcm2a

Someone get the Orange Final Crypto Boss to pump ETH for a last one way trip to the moon.

GBeastETH

I saw a lot of hype yesterday about how they skipped Ethereum when they announced their new Bitcoin and Solana ETFs. Looks like they were just running a day behind on the ETH filing, or maybe they wanted to be able to make a separate press release for more coverage.

Listen2TheWindMFr

Highly suspect and interesting that there’s no XRP in that listing. However, on day one that Trump announced the strategic reserve, he mentioned bitcoin, ETH, and XRP. Both Eric and his friend waved him off and whispered to him something and he said bitcoin and ETH and left out XRP. I wouldn’t doubt that some of the 47 billion XRP that are in escrow have been assigned to the US government on an OTC order, but not until the time is right.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Morgan Stanley has filed for spot Ethereum ETFs, aiming to track ETH's price and pass staking rewards to shareholders. This marks the bank's first foray into the crypto ETF market, alongside applications for Bitcoin and Solana ETFs. The move reflects growing institutional interest in digital assets, with other major banks like Bank of America and BlackRock also expanding crypto offerings. Despite this, the broader crypto market faces challenges, including a $600 billion drop in Bitcoin market cap and heightened volatility. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

FunProposal1989

I plan to move 1,000,000 sats monthly until bitcoin reaches its next ATH then I will sell as a whole. In the mean time does small DCA transactions of account based crypto like ETH and SOL have any impacts if I move them daily/weekly to my hardware wallet?

FunProposal1989

Thanks for the link I will take a look, does ETH and SOL have a similar system or am I free to move smaller amounts to my hardware wallet without having to worry about future fees?

LongBeachJohn

I have allocated my crypto holdings 70/30 (70 % BTC and 30 % ETH). Combined, they are 16 % of my investment portfolio. The remaining 84 % of my portfolio is stocks and mutual funds.

LongBeachJohn

With 70/30 allocation of my crypto holdings (70 % BTC and 30 % ETH), I welcome the year of 2026 to be bullish for both of the two largets cryptos.

DoritoZNJ

Wrong, ETH will be 10,000$ when BTC reaches 1mil and that's a fact.

northcasewhite

I hate TRX. It's a plagiarism of ETH. But why downvote a factual post? TRX keeps rising and we need to understand why.

nugymmer

If ETH hits $10k I’d cook one of my balls in the fish soup.

nugymmer

If ETH grows to $250k I’d have a double dick and I’d be able to have a threesome. LOL It’s this bullshit that’s the reason why we are heading down. Massively fucking down.

axius7

Neither because they don't have a good way to bridge between EVM network to their network without going through an exchange and you probably have to KYC. If you have a non-KYC way to switch assets then go for that. This method involves EVM network with ZK bridges to a ZKP network (Manta). meaning when you use the EVM bridge the target wallet shouldn't have any connection to your wallet. However, I think people can still guess based on the transaction amount and time of transfer. That was why Tornado Cash had people deposit same amount like 0.1 ETH or 1 ETH to make it harder to guess. But people depositing a lot of ETH will make it much easier to guess. You may need another layer of privacy on top of using a ZK network/ZK bridge. Any Tornado Cash clone is as good as the amount of users that uses it. For a small amount I probably wouldn't worry too much. It's more like if people somehow want to make private a large amount of transfer they need more layers of privacy.

Alarming-Nose2400

Obviously not I spread most of my money across equities and crypto (BTC, ETH, XRP, SOL). Me personally I could never be the ALL IN BTC guy but holding some of each of those coins listed give me more confidence because each has their own purpose in the crypto world.

Illustrious_Echo3222

I think the hard truth is that anything that looks like a public, reusable mixer on Ethereum is going to get flagged eventually. Railgun works technically, but the compliance layer around CEXs kind of defeats the point if you ever want to touch fiat again. A lot of privacy seems to have shifted toward behavior instead of tools. Things like smaller hops, timing separation, or moving across chains where surveillance is weaker. It is less convenient than Tornado was, but that era might just be over for ETH mainnet.

trx-repo

The problem is that crypto markets run on hype, not just utility. ETH is boring right now compared to the shiny new memecoins, but smart money knows it's still the infrastructure king.

Advanced-Kale2014

If I had $20k for crypto, I’d mostly stick to $BTC and $ETH, maybe a small slice in a few promising altcoins. I’d consider spreading it out over time instead of buying all at once to ride out swings. Only invest what you can afford to lose, because crypto is unpredictable.

iamjide91

You are not the only one, ETH has made huge technical and ecosystem improvements, but it’s also a crowded space. That’s why it’s smart to balance it with projects building real world infrastructure and utility, like $AIOZ, where streaming, storage and AI compute are already generating adoption. It’s a way to diversify into tangible use cases beyond Ethereum’s narrative.

Skyobliwind

Yes because with the last Bitcoin Pump to 100.000$ ETH also reached 25.000$ as we all know.

Ireallydontknowmans

Maybe ETH should try to beat its 2021 ATH lol

Educational-Row-4262

honestly 5k ETH wouldnt shock me that much if momentum stays. ppl said the same stuff last cycle and then it just kept grinding up. im mostly just holding and not overthinking it, keep my eth in best wallet and check in once in a while. trying not to stare at charts 24/7 lol

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investingtruth

If it were a no-brainer, the price wouldn't be where it is. Markets are forward-looking. ETH has improved, but so has the competition. Solana, Base, and other L1s/L2s are eating into its dominance. Not saying don't buy it. Just saying "no-brainer" implies certainty that doesn't exist.

Glyzzza_

You should do the "buy low, sell high" you can start small, learn the market, and look for dips to accumulate strong coins like BTC or ETH.

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Then_Helicopter4243

Big signal for ETH maturity. Traditional finance stepping in via regulated structures shows growing institutional confidence, adoption is getting harder to ignore.

Rare_Rich6713

It’s actually simpler than it sounds. Usually, at checkout, the merchant will give you a wallet address and the exact amount to pay in crypto. All you need to do is send that amount from your wallet whether it’s a personal wallet, Metamask, or an exchange like Binance/Kraken to that address. The key is to double-check the network for ETH, make sure it’s the Ethereum network and not, say, BSC or another chain. I’ve done something similar when booking a flight through an alternative airline using xMoney. At checkout, it worked much the same way: the system gave me the crypto address, I sent the exact amount, and the payment went through smoothly without having to use any special features. The main thing is just confirming the address and network once that’s done, it’s pretty straightforward.

imaginecomplex

Even 0.1 BTC / ETH is generous. If that were the case now, ETH would be over 9000

chappersrctilbo

No it won’t. ETH should have been higher than 2021 last year but failed to move.

VariatCA

Blackrock (IBIT and ETHA) single-handedly kept ETF flows from getting out of hand today. Total BTC outflows today were -$243M, with IBIT being the lone net-buyer at +$228M. This makes $888M worth of blackrock BTC inflows in just 3 days. Total ETH inflows today were +114.7M, with ETHA being basically the lone net-buyer at +198M. This makes $350M worth of blackrock ETH inflows in just 3 days.

GreenStretch

Now I'm out of alts for real, just sold the last ETH. BTC only.

Legitimate-Net-7744

From top l2 coins, ETH CAN GO 4-8X UP, Solana maximum 2-4x, and SUI 10-40x. All with proportionally similar risk, but eth/sol won't skyrocket beyond those numbers.

TotalRepost

On a tax adjusted basis, an efficient ETH digital asset treasury company will perform better. The ETF will only be able to stake about 50% of their ETH while the DAT can stake it all and get a lower tax rate on the staking rewards. Not to mention they may unlock additional yield though leverage or other defi lending

ironmoosen

My prediction for a long time was $10k ETH when BTC hit $120k. I’m still surprised that it hasn’t done better this cycle.

botperception

ETH needs to reach all time high from 5 years ago before Tom Lee starts aiming for Mars.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

>Lee predicted that ETH would reach $15,000 last year. Very rough estimates. I aint doing much math for something this stupid. So let's see that would put BTC at like a $10T market cap and ETH at $45T. Where the fuck is this extra $52T coming from. The entire crypto market cap is like $3T now. This guy is a dolt.

Capital-Assistance84

ETH will come!

oak1337

I’m not using those words as hype, I’m using them in the distributed systems sense. “Unlimited” means no protocol-level throughput ceiling, not infinite TPS today. “Guaranteed” means mathematically proven properties of the consensus, not vibes. "Never" means Ethereum will never be ABFT, unless they reconstruct and rearchitect the entire foundation of the protocol, and then it's not even ETH anymore, it's a brand new chain. You don't build a 100 story building on a foundation, and then decide to rebuild the foundation. It doesn't work. Hedera does have linear/horizontal scaling. Add more nodes/shards, add more TPS capacity. **Unlimited scaling, only chain to do it**. ABFT is what helps facilitate this, since all shards are ABFT. Hedera does have guaranteed finality even under adversarial conditions (**ABFT with COQ Proof, only chain to do it**). Hedera does guarantee decentralization over time. Nodes do not get more weight, even if they surpass 100% of staking maximum. Individual nodes can never gain enough weight to centralize power or influence consensus. Equal node consensus power. Hedera does guarantee leaderless fair ordering. The only IF here is, IF Hedera scales to 10's of thousands of TPS and higher, it is inevitable for permissionless. It's not a choice, and they're already preparing for it as we've said with DAB and Block Nodes. If Hedera DOESN'T scale, then the network itself will eventually go bankrupt and die. So permissionless won't matter anyway. Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting is a fundamental breakthrough in computer science. No votes are cast. De minimus data added (two hashed timestamps) and you achieve free consensus thereafter by just gossiping your transaction. Hashgraph operates at the fundamental limits of physics. As hardware improves, Hedera gets faster. It is Future Proof, since it's built on perfect math and is modular by design to upgrade as needed. **ABFT consensus/security, at unlimited scale, with guaranteed decentralization over time, is the end game of DLT. It is the Holy Grail.**

oak1337

You say I’m "redefining" things, but I’m just looking at the scoreboard. You’ve admitted Ethereum is failing its own "trustless" goals. Now you’re just arguing that intent matters more than results. You’re evaluating a centralized, leader based, and permissionless Ethereum, based on a dream from 10 years ago that has turned into a $100k entry fee nightmare, where users get robbed by MEV kings. **Again, it has a Nakamoto score of 2, which is literally 1 step away from being an SQL database with a million spectators.** Amazing to be that centralized with 1.1 million validators (13,000 nodes), right? Experiment over. Failed. Once you're that centralized, there's no un-fucking it. Not to mention it can't scale and isn't ABFT. I’m evaluating a decentralized, leaderless and permissioned Hedera based on Mainnet code that has delivered the most fair, most secure, high-speed performance in the history of computer science. Nakamoto score of 11, which only increases as any nodes are added (equal node consensus power). ABFT at unlimited scale is the end game of DLT. Rolling out permissionless in a methodical fashion, while guaranteeing decentralization along the way, is practical and necessary. Ironically Ethereum also started permissioned and moved to permissionless, but didn't have a strong foundation and didn't implement a good plan for obtaining true decentralization. It failed. 2015 Canary "Centralized" Contracts, 2016 DAO Hack & Centralized Fork, "Difficulty Bombs" for coerced centralized governance, 72 million centralized Genesis ETH Distribution. All factors in ETHs current Nakamoto score of 2. Leader based systems like ETH can add as many nodes as they want, whenever they want, because there's only 1 leader at a time, and the most important leaders already hold all the power. They don't care what you do, your node is literally a paperweight. You are really a spectator, not an actual contributer. Hedera is leaderless, so you don't just add nodes willy-nilly otherwise you unnecessarily increase Time To Finality for no reason. It's a Gossip protocol, where every node participates in every transaction. You add nodes when you need to scale. When you add enough nodes, you shard. You keep sharding as needed by TPS demands, or other demands, like the need for your nodes to be within your country bounds by law (banks, etc). Again this is already coming into action, the DAB is already live today. It officially removed the "manual gatekeeping" of node account IDs. Block Nodes tested this month. They are preparing for imminent scale, likely having to do with CLARITY Act regs on the horizon. While membership to the Council is gated, membership to community and permissionless nodes is now ready for implementation as required by TPS or other demands.

SendThemToHeaven

made way more money after I gave up on ETH. you're missing out on opportunity cost but ok

jawni

This is notable for many reasons. 1. It's Morgan Stanley, 6th largest bank. 2. Only the 3rd and 4th ETFs to be under the "Morgan Stanley" name directly. 3. Until recently, Morgan Stanley advisors were barred from buying crypto ETFs for their clients. 4. No ETH!?

jwz9904

6 daily green candle for ETH

VariatCA

After all that, BTC finished the day only down -0.19%, and ETH nearly got all the way back to its morning peak to finish +2.2%.

the_j4ckal

Your logic is sound questioning whether or not it can reach 10-15k - I don’t know your portfolio allocation but I really hope you aren’t heavy in ETH.

A-Stock-A-Day

I'm mostly a long-term spot holder (mainly BTC/ETH),still believe in the fundamentals, adoption, ETFs, and scarcity post-halving. The past couple years' choppy action (with BTC consolidating around $90k early 2026 after the late-2025 dip) has tested patience, but I view drawdowns as accumulation opportunities rather than reasons to baghold forever.

R3dFiveStandingBye

Look I believe in the jump, I’ve never been able to buy ETH at the first price I bought it at… which was .. $176….so the jump does exist it’s just a matter of when.

Revolutionary-Cup78

I don't se ETH doing any drastic upwards movements ever again. Most likely it will stay near 3.5k with a small risk of crashing, while very slowly "increasing" its price (actually USD going down)

R3dFiveStandingBye

I honestly hope ETH does well in the future because it did make me bank it the past it’s just been so stagnant for so long while Bitcoin actually did something under tight monetary conditions and high inflation.

R3dFiveStandingBye

I’m not sure silver is the best comparison ETH is more like oil in crypto because it causes a branch of ERC-20 Tokens that work because of ETH, so ETH stays relatively sideways until a major breakout and for bitcoin, as long as it stays scarce and harder to mine every 4 years, it has a reason to go up….forever essentially as long as money flows into it and the inflation rate increases, ETH doesn’t have these reasons

oak1337

Sorry. Hedera built their CAR out of titanium. Happy? Pedantic and trying to run away from the point of the metaphor and argument. Hung up on engine lmao what a tool. DAB and Block Nodes are the code that facilitates permissionless. Time to scale to that level is what determines when that happens. There is no theoretical future in which Ethereum improves to beat Hedera on ANY technological level. They're not in the same league. For example, Ethereum will NEVER be ABFT. Ethereum will never have unlimited scalability. Period. It's already proven that it can centralize to the maximum over time though (Nakamoto score 2 is the worst possible). It can continue it's little improvements here or there, but it's the AOL of Web3. Had it's time in the beginning, but it'll die a slow and painful death cause Maxi's like you will go down with the ship. Hedera will NOT face the same centralization pressures as it transitions to permissionless. Completely different architectures, and Hedera's doesn't allow it. You haven't listened when I talk about equal node consensus power. No node can control more than 2.5% of the network. Hard coded. Will not centralize. Guaranteed to be more and more decentralized forever as it scales. Period. Again, Hedera didn't side step or rig the system. They chose a measured roll out of permissionless, which works in tandem as Hedera scales, to ensure decentralization throughout time. Forever. This is not disingenuous, it is proper planning. Guarantee Decentralization now with the 39 equal and rival/competitor council, and guarantee it in the future during expansion. It's also inevitable as Hedera scales, not a "promise". If Hedera scales, permissionless is inevitable. ABFT is ABFT, whether it's "Lab experiment permissioned" or permissionless. Whatever you want to incorrectly label it as, it does not matter. Hedera's COQ Proof of ABFT means that it's infinitely better than ETH even under the worst adversarial conditions. 100% Deterministic finality in under 3 seconds. Not ETHs shit-ass 99% Probabilistic finality after 15 minutes. The highest possible security, and best possible consensus. I repeat, Eth will NEVER be ABFT, never have unlimited scale, and will continue to centralize (though it essentially cannot get worse than a Nakamoto score of 2). Hedera is already ABFT, does have unlimited scalability, is more decentralized than ETH now with a Nakamoto score of 11, and will continue to get more decentralized with permissionless as it scales.

R3dFiveStandingBye

ETH can go f itself personally, Bitcoin makes crazy new highs and ETH tops at barely $200 above its 2021 all time high, Jesus Christ it didn’t even hit $5,000 after 4 years of chop sideways, even if ETH goes to 10k it’s trash. So much money for transactions still while Bitcoin stays cheaper to do transfers. It’s such a shame, I was an ETH fanboy from 2019 to this cycle.

PapayaJuiceBox

ETH has been used in quite a bit of real world execution. Ergo, it’s already not speculative.

ShittingOutPosts

Tom Lee is now an ETH salesman. His company depends on ETH appreciating. There’s nothing else you need to know.

Goad_Goat

Except bitcoin has a fixed amount and ETH has no limit. Keep dreaming Tom

Hqjjciy6sJr

Adjusted for inflation, ETH hasn’t hit an ATH since 2021, so let’s not get too excited...

lexxwern

The fundamental problem with ETH is centralized control and infinite supply. Just like USD and am other fiat.

A_Fat_Sosig

If ETH hits 250k i will personally lambos for all 53 of you commenters

AbstractAcrylicArt

10k/ETH is pretty reasonable

Cptn_BenjaminWillard

If BTC gets to $100m, ETH will cure cancer.

oak1337

I've already won the debate, this is just clean up and dog walking. Ethereum - attempted decentralization, failed. You conceded this point, **they are losing the battle to centralized entities**. It was bad in 2018 when Gencer wrote his paper, and it's only continued to get worse until now with a Nakamoto of 2. Battle lost. Centralized. BTC - attempted decentralization, failed (Nakamoto score 3). You quoted both authors that say as much, about mining pools centralizing the system. Again, it's continued to get worse and they have lost the battle. WHY do these authors say this? Because they know **Decentralization of POWER** is what matters, not NODE COUNT, whether it's permissioned or not. EQUALITY of nodes, EQUALITY of power. **Yes, permissionless is the GOAL**, and Hedera has maintained that track. The Dynamic Address Book is live TODAY, so Hedera's 'gatekeeper' role you’re obsessing over 'ad nauseum' has already been coded out of the protocol with that update. So AGAIN I'll bring it back to the beginning. Hedera is CURRENTLY more decentralized than Ethereum, despite being permissioned, and it will only be MORE decentralized over time as it becomes permissionless. This is because Hedera can guarantee equal node consensus power over time, including as it adds more permissionless nodes. It's Nakamoto score will only INCREASE over time, not DECREASE like BTC and ETH. The 4 scenarios still stand: 1)Permissioned & Centralized 2)Permissioned & Decentralized 3)Permissionless & Centralized 4)Permissionless & Decentralized Hedera fits BOTH of the quotes perfectly that you cited from the researchers. **There is not a trusted gatekeeper**. There is a Council of 32 EQUAL members, NONE of whom trust each other, they are ALL rivals and competitors against one another in reality. I don't trust ANY of the council members INDIVIDUALLY either, BUT we can trust the group as a WHOLE. Sound familiar? That's because it's a real life, corporate version of the Byzantine Generals Problem. IBM and Google don't trust each other, they are competitors. I don't trust either of them either. But I trust that they don't trust each other. That is the literal definition of solving the Byzantine Generals Problem in the real world. Your ultimate problem is that you're treating DECENTRALIZATION and PERMISSIONLESS as synonyms with the exact same definition. You use them interchangeably. That is wrong, and where your confusion lies. You will never learn until you're able to separate the two in your mind, realize their differences, and where they overlap.

ryencool

This. It used to make up 90% of my holdings when i had little to invest. I now own a few ETH, but its like maybe 40%? I do own some ETH related stocks like SBETand BMNR who both hold wuite a bit of ETH as well. I was hoping to see a MSTR lioe take off with those. I think SBET hit 120$/share for a short time, and is now in the 20s. So im trying to lower my buy in to closer to that. If it jumps again thats a 2.5x, if it goes higher? Gravy. ETH is the red headed step child though, atleast in my 5 years.

Not99Percent

I think most people in here already know this, but ETH’s big moves usually come after Bitcoin runs, then pulls back sharply, that’s when Ethereum tends to make its real move

bbatardo

So BTC will 11x and ETH will 75x+? Find that very hard to believe ETH will outperform BTC that much. In the last 5 years ETH is up slightly more than BTC, but we are talking like 40% higher.

roy360

Crap I just found this online: "No, the [Fidelity Ethereum Fund (FETH)](https://www.fidelity.com/etfs/crypto-funds) does not currently stake its underlying Ether (ETH), as Fidelity amended its filing to remove staking, meaning investors won't earn staking rewards directly from the ETF, although it does provide passive exposure to ETH's price. While Fidelity initially proposed staking to enhance returns, regulatory hurdles and considerations led to its removal from the current ETF structure, creating an opportunity cost compared to directly owning and staking ETH." ETHE here I come.

Ghola_Mentat

I’m not sure I would do that. FETH could get approval for staking rewards after you sell. I would find out when you need to hold ETH to get their next distribution and time it around that. I have ETH and all this seemed to happen very quickly. I just noticed yesterday that the name of the ETF had changed to include staking. Didn’t even have enough time to switch to DRIP for that position.

boringtired

Just because BTC goes up, does not mean ETH going up.

Bongressman

Just like ETH being one quarter BTC's value now... er, wait.

3DanO1

Wtf is this. Has 4 ETH = 1 BTC ever existed at any point in history? So if BTC 10x, ETH is just going to magically 100x in the same timeframe? Press (X) to Doubt

SeriousGains

250k ETH makes total sense in clown world.

roy360

It actually says on those pages for ETH their distribution frequency is "None" while ETHE says "Monthly".

b1mm3rl1f3

Liquidity hunting, where have you been? and ETH has been up only so far, from $2.8k to $3.3k in just 6 days. Bears are in rough shape 😂

roy360

Hmm are you sure? I see on their website that ETHE has done a distribution (https://etfs.grayscale.com/ethe#distributions) whereas ETH has never done one yet: https://etfs.grayscale.com/eth

GBeastETH

I was expecting them to just roll the earned ETH into the body of the trust, thereby increasing the value of each share. The article hints that they are constrained by securities laws, which might explain why they are doing it as a cash dividend instead.

GBeastETH

Get ETH not ETHE. 0.15% expense ratio vs 2.5% Both are Grayscale, and both stake the ETH.

GBeastETH

The Grayscale ETH mini-trust has just 0.15% expense ratio, and it is staking. So unless you are locked in by long-term capital gains tax exposure, it makes sense to sell all your ETHE and buy ETH.

Cautious-Lecture-858

Is this why BTC and ETH are down?

Cautious-Lecture-858

I mean, we know ETH is going down to 1800 so this may be the last opportunity to sell before the dive.

Advanced-Summer1572

ETH and SOL are not in competition. Each performs as expected for their customers. ETH is slower, much more expensive than SOL but it concentrates on Institutions, Government and Security. SOL is speed, massive numbers of verification per second, a fraction of the cost per transaction and many more customers. Gaming, retail, gambling, credit card sales....a much larger base and so inexpensive. Currently being used in a pilot program for VISA in its Western use strategy. The company VISA is using is CIRCLE. Look it up. Own both.

Byro1218

ETH is underperforming and undervalued. Lately I’ve become an ETH believer because there a lot of usage. Sadly we are in a bear market

Escapement_Watch

lol you have to look long term when etf's are involved not just on news day! But yes I admit I chose sol over eth over 5 years ago. I use the block chain on a daily basis and eth was just too fragmented and frustrating for me. So when I tried sol it was a breath of fresh air...and i ended up by an insane amount at 30 dollars and live off the yield 6.25% honestly the best decision of my life and I only wish I bought 1000 more coins back then. but i know i have more then most and am grateful for that. I hope ETH goes to 1 million dollars for you bro!

Cautious-Lecture-858

ETH dropped 3.81% from its high today. Perspective.

potatoMan8111

Found the 🤡 who chose SOL over ETH lmao