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_alkoshi_

I believe you should be able to use [https://app.methprotocol.xyz/unstake](https://app.methprotocol.xyz/unstake) to convert it back to ETH to avoid conversion slippage.

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jaathoven

Since December if 2024, Doge has lost almost 70% of its value against ETH. Most people lost on this. Better off holding the big boys

Zealousideal-Bus4712

it might genuinely be over this time. rates are staying high, world getting increasingly dangerous / value driven, saylor about to go down, Agentic coding / quantum computing posing major threats, and despite the most crypto friendly, bullish admin in history (strategic reserve, clarity act, trumpcoin, etc.) ETH is still DOWN 15% over the past 5 years while the s&p is up almost 125%.

b1mm3rl1f3

Going all in at $65k BTC and $1.5k ETH. Been waiting all year for this. RemindMe! 1 year

rarely92

Wheres ETH, BNB, SOL?

WhimsicalVibe_1

your tokens are fine, you just can't trade them on bybit anymore. withdraw the cmETH to a self-custody wallet like metamask and swap it for ETH on any major DEX like uniswap. friendly reminder: this is exactly why you shouldn't hold liquid staking tokens on a centralized exchange long term. keep them on-chain

MinimalGravitas

Sure, but once I do can you please acknowledge how ridiculous it is that the head of the project is also on the leadership team of IOG... surely you can't be pretending to believe they will be unbiased? Anyway, as to an example of bias in the data. In their Consensus section (the first section they published, about 2 years ago) one of the metrics they present is Nakamoto Coefficient. They gave Cardano a value around 75, which could only be obtained if they counted multiple validators run by the same entities as different (e.g. as if "LBF1" (Ledger by Figment pool 1) was unrelated to LBF2, LBF3... etc. They gave Ethereum a value of 2, which could only be obtained if they treated all of the 31 (or maybe 33 at the time, I don't exactly recall) entities under the 'Lido' system as a single entity. Lido validators are run by companies and organizations, in different countries, with different client software. The company Lido directs staked ETH into the entities under their banner but has no control over transaction ordering or any other consensus impacting influence. The idea that they should be counted as a single entity while multiple Cardano pools operated by the same company are counted as different is a clear example of the bias that they use to ensure the company that they work comes out looking like the best. If your investments prevent you from acknowledging that then imagine it wasn't crypto. Would you believe a report put out by a group founded and funded by 'X', headed by a member of X's board, on which AI was most reliable, when they inevitable come up with the answer that it is their own Grok that is the best?

MinimalGravitas

Sure, but once I do can you please acknowledge how ridiculous it is that the head of the project is also on the leadership team of IOG... surely you can't be pretending to believe they will be unbiased? Anyway, as to an example of bias in the data. In their Consensus section (the first section they published, about 2 years ago) one of the metrics they present is Nakamoto Coefficient. They gave Cardano a value around 75, which could only be obtained if they counted multiple validators run by the same entities as different (e.g. as if "LBF1" (Ledger by Figment pool 1) was unrelated to LBF2, LBF3... etc. They gave Ethereum a value of 2, which could only be obtained if they treated all of the 31 (or maybe 33 at the time, I don't exactly recall) entities under the 'Lido' system as a single entity. Lido validators are run by companies and organizations, in different countries, with different client software. The company Lido directs staked ETH into the entities under their banner but has no control over transaction ordering or any other consensus impacting influence. The idea that they should be counted as a single entity while multiple Cardano pools operated by the same company are counted as different is a clear example of the bias that they use to ensure the company that they work comes out looking like the best. If your investments prevent you from acknowledging that then imagine it wasn't crypto. Would you believe a report put out by a group founded and funded by 'X', headed by a member of X's board, on which AI was most reliable, when they inevitable come up with the answer that it is their own Grok that is the best?

Front_Orchid6864

If it were me, I would keep the ETH.

CM19901

ETH and SOL will definitely recover.

unknowngloomth

Nobody knows. But ETH barely hit a new ATHs from its 2021 top if I'm not mistaken. If only one had bought S&P and held they'd be up about 63% or more.

Illustrious-Boss9356

I think ETH and SOL are sort of competitors in the same space. Chainlink is competing in the RWA/Oracle space. BTC is the only one w a unique space but it is the slowest and oldest tech of them all.

fabio_it

Noone can tell with a 100% certainty. ETH and SOL probably will recover and reach ne ATH

MediumLibrarian7100

Institutions changed crypto liquidity from retail rotation to product gated allocation. Between 2022-today, they: \- wrapped crypto in tradfi products \- concentrated liquidity into BTC first, ETH second \- professionalised custody, execution and risk \- turned stables into settlement rails \- made “compliance liquidity” matter OLD cycle was: **BTC pumps -> retail feels rich -> profits rotate into ETH -> large caps -> mid caps -> microcaps** NEW cycle is: **ETF inflows -> BTC/ETH absorb capital -> institutions rebalance through regulated products -> little spillover to illiquid alts** That’s why in 2024 after halving BTC could rise without automatically feeding the whole market. Add three more pressures: too many new tokens diluting attention, venture unlocks creating constant sell pressure, and retail weaker than in 2020/21 because rates were higher and stimulus was gone I’m yet to see an advantage to them arriving

Objective-Street-957

Polymarket killed Alt coins, big tech ate BTC/ETH money. It's gojo over.

stockfish11

You are not built for risk. Many great long term solid investments that wont crash but also wont sky rocket. Like Utilities. I started buying btc/eth in 2016 in small amounts and have been adding, in very small amounts for 10 years this dec 17. I have never sold any of it and I keep buying in micro amounts. My eth is staked so its like a " drip" investment. Ive been through 4 crashes and bought every extreme dip and runup. Everyone cries and runs for the exits during crashes and down periods I just keep buying all the time with 50-100 dollar investments Regardless of price. The current dip is caused, imo, by 2 factors. 1. The high risk investors who are the demographics of btc buyers have moved to AI stocks which are very volatile and mostly moving up and very sharply here and there. 2. Trumps charades into crypto have stained the community and that has had an effect. Btc isnt going away . ETH has a clear utilitarian function that use grows everyday, especially in AI block chain applications. Humans are strange, they prefer buying equities when they are very high and not buying them when they are on sale. Short term attention span of people today make buy n hold almost incomprehensible to them.

templatexyz

Sell ETH, buy Bitcoin and don’t stop. In due time, you will make back what you lost 🤑.

Saffuran

Stay out until closer to Q4 most likely -- also don't look at things outside of the top 20 or so tokens (market cap) and I tend to avoid memes in that filter as well. By the time BTC bottoms the ETH/BTC dilation iis probably going to be toward its relative lows which will be interesting for entry. Solana should also see a strong bounce (between now and Q4, SOL will probably be trading in the $30s at some point and that will be the safest entry since its fair value gap will be filled. I admit there is second-hand meme exposure there so there is a double-edged sword but I genuinely like how the system operates. AVAX/LINK will be interesting layer 2 projects to look for entries in and Real-World-Asset markets and aggregators like ONDO may be some of the biggest overall opportunities. Privacy coins/layers like ZCash and ZKsync are already showing decent strength (especially ZEC) in this downtrend and if ZEC can maintain that relative strength with Bitcoin transitioning back into a Bull Market environment, it could have the biggest boom potential of all.

Mountain-Tap-8788

Why Bitcoin, why not ETH and why not Shiba or Doge? Maybe Claude tokens would be actually useful to access AI compute power. Why choose something where a huge percent is already owned by some random MSTR or Satoshi if he decides to wake up. What have they contributed to the world economy to hold so much of it? What backs BTC? What if governments refuse to exchange their currency for BTC?

day_after_day513

I started out broke. Looking for sign up bonuses online. Didn’t have a dollar in my bank account. And across OKX crypto app that gave out $10 free when I signed up. I noticed it said up to $400 in rewards free. When I first got the free $10 I sold the bitcoin they gave me and bought ETH. OKX per terms and conditions require rewards stay in your account 30 days before withdrawal. They want to hope you don’t get the money and run and who can blame them. If it wasn’t for that requirement I would never have noticed the glitch. A week after receiving the free $10 I went into the app and was clicking around. I came across the rewards section where it explained how to unlock The remaining $400. I noticed a small bar graph at the bottom under the buy/sell requirement showing I had $10 of the $3000 required to unlock my remaining $400. I thought to myself “hey, when I sold bitcoin and bought eth it counted to the requirement to unlock the remaining $400” . One would think it would have to be new money being deposited but it can be the free money they give at sign up. So I spent the next hour sitting there using the same $10 buying and selling bitcoin, as my original $10 i was given free at sign up depleted from the bid/ask spread I think I had about $4 left and my next reward unlocked. I now had $74. The remaining $74 I now had to trade $7000 total in order to unlock the $300 reward. I sat there another 30 minutes and watched the amount go down to around $50 and my $300 reward was given instantly as well. I now had $350 withdrawable in 30 days. Now okx if running a campaign where referrals get you a $100 bonus and they receive up to $400. Every few days I will post a video with my referral link on my social media and can generate a good passive income revenue source at the moment and you can too. Hope this helps someone as much as it has helped me. Any questions don’t hesitate to ask. I am incentivized to help in order to get my reward for you signing up and will make sure you understand clearly so you can show someone else

Prior_Parsley3960

**What happened** * Cosmos/Ethereum bridge **Gravity Bridge** was exploited for approximately **$5.4 million**. * Initial reports suggest a **bridge signing key compromise**, allowing unauthorized withdrawals. * Validators have **halted the bridge** while the incident is investigated. **Assets stolen** * \~$4.3M USDC * \~274 WETH (\~$553K) * \~$434K USDT * \~14 PAXG (\~$64K) **Current status** * Some funds have reportedly already been moved through **ChangeNow** and **Binance**. * The attacker wallet was still holding roughly **2,100 ETH (\~$4.2M)** when security researchers published their findings. * Bridge operations are paused. **Why this matters** * Gravity Bridge is one of the more decentralized Cosmos↔Ethereum bridges, relying on validator consensus rather than a small multisig. * If the signing-key-compromise theory is correct, the incident highlights that even decentralized bridge architectures can still have critical key-management risks. **Broader market implications** * Another major bridge exploit adds to growing institutional concerns about DeFi infrastructure. * Bridge hacks remain one of crypto's most persistent security problems because bridges often become concentrated pools of assets. * This is reportedly the **8th major bridge exploit of 2026**, with cumulative bridge losses now exceeding **$300 million** this year.

stheodore1974

I sold all my ETH for BTC about 3 years ago and have zero regrets. I started my crypto journey with ETH in 2020 but in hindsight I should have always made BTC the foundation. I corrected that about 3 years back and if I could turn back the clock I would have done FAR better with BTC. There is no second best

Useful-Thought2378

Okay and if that day ever comes 1 Bitcoin will be worth 10trillion dollars making ETH a completely pointless hold still

Certain-Use8674

After Binance force-settled my original short position, a remaining positive/net long ZEC balance was still left on my account. At that stage, there was already no compensation being considered for the losses on the short position, so I simply wanted to realize the remaining losses, fully exit ZEC, and move on. In the legal email, Binance stated that the remaining assets “could be transferred out at my convenience.” Based on that wording, plus earlier support discussions, I understood that I would still be able to internally liquidate/convert the remaining ZEC exposure. Because of that, I partially transferred the remaining ZEC long exposure from Isolated Margin into Spot, expecting I could later convert it into USDT or another supported asset like BTC or ETH. But after transferring into Spot, conversion of ZEC into USD/USDT or any other supported pair was no longer available on my account. After realizing the Spot conversion was not working, I personally tried using the force close/liquidation option on the remaining ZEC that was still left inside Isolated Margin, and that portion was successfully converted internally into USDT. If I had known earlier that internal force liquidation was still possible, I would never have transferred part of the remaining ZEC exposure into Spot in the first place. Now support says the remaining ZEC can only be transferred externally to another wallet/exchange, even though this was never clearly explained earlier. I also followed up with Binance Legal again regarding this issue, but unfortunately have not received any reply so far. At this point, what frustrates me most is not even the unsupported-asset policy itself, but the inconsistent handling during the migration/restriction process. I simply wanted to close the position, realize the losses, and regain access to my liquidity, but instead the situation became more complicated at every step. The remaining ZEC is now stuck in my Spot wallet, where I cannot trade, convert, or internally liquidate it into USDT/BTC/ETH. Support is now saying I can only transfer it externally, but I currently do not even have another crypto exchange/wallet account available. Would genuinely appreciate if anyone could suggest any practical solution on how I can move or convert the remaining ZEC from my Spot wallet into USDT

account009988

Sell BTC for ETH?

SpontaneousDream

ATHs against BTC, ETH, and all others too

SpontaneousDream

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTk6RZMtzVs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTk6RZMtzVs) CEO of Sharplink talking about ETH. *This* is who the ETH people are putting their faith in? Lol so bearish. Send this trash lower

TheresNoSecondBest

There's Bitcoin, the absolute mathematical scarcity and then there's the rest. People call them shitcoins for a reason. Sell both, ETH and the r/ripplescam before losing even more.

Gangaman666

💯 BTC and XMR only for me. But I do think ETH has a future. Im Just not a fan of POS coins. The rest is noise to me.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Many people say Bitcoin can't be used for anything, but I just bought a pair of High End loudspeakers for my HiFi audio system. I think it has been the best purchase I have ever made using BTC. It made me very happy. I think buying a nice audio system has been the best use case for BTC that I can think of. These people clearly never used bitcoin before, making the conversation a waste of time. >Currently my crypto allocation is 90 % BTC and 10 % ETH. Holding shitcoins over long period of time is a great way to lose money. Bitcoin only is IMHO the best way. It gives less support to the scammers like Vitalik, who premined 72 million ETH before letting anyone else to use the network.

askolein

Buy BTC XMR ETH only real demand for these supplies Rest (XLM ALGO XRP LINK) is full bs

GeoSystemsDeveloper

**Daily crypto TL;DR:** * ℹ️ Bitcoin social sentiment is highly bullish but the Fear & Greed Index shows extreme fear, signaling a potential contrarian red flag. * ⚠️ Spot Bitcoin ETFs have recorded 10 consecutive days of outflows totaling over $2.97 billion, pressuring BTC prices. * ⚠️ Escalating US-Iran tensions have pushed oil prices above $100, intensifying global inflation fears and crypto market volatility. * 🚀 Large Ethereum holders have accumulated nearly $2 billion worth of ETH, reaching a 10-week high despite ongoing ETF outflows. * ⚠️ JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon vows to fight the Clarity Act stablecoin bill over concerns with yield offerings and AML requirements. *News summary from the* [*HODLings app*](https://www.geosystemsdev.com/products/hodlings/)*.*

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JustAnotherRandom611

The idea of just bouncing around the investments is more to the point - like how much did you actually make in Crypto and then have to pay in taxes to then buy super HIGH costs of AI stocks as they are going up. No on is able to truly TIME the markets and the BIG 7 are currently propping up the Market and even while BTC and ETH are down in the dumps - I'd argue better to just hold some positions in those, or hit some of the smaller but top 20-30 Coins because the returns their could be huge -- XRP, ADA, LINK are the three I'd definitely just throw a few bucks in and just hold for the next year or so in the event a bigger crypto bull run.

Chance-Bet-9770

Speed is part of it, but the bigger thing is build culture — on SOL you can ship utility in week 1 instead of a 6-month roadmap. Recent example I've been watching: $GL1TCH launched recently. By day 7 they had: full audit (RugCheck 1/Low, mint+freeze null, Token-2022 0 tax), holder-gated TG rooms with signature-based verify (no spend authority), public on-chain give-back wallet, 5 tiers of access. Try doing all that on ETH in a week without a $100k audit invoice. SOL lets memes act like real protocols. (Disclosure: I hold, but the build-speed point stands separately.)

marsangelo

He was an alright dude. I remember when reddit first decided to talk to the mods preemptively about how they were going to sunset moons, i was at the gym and i noticed moons did -85% i lost about 2 ETH worth in a minute because mods dumped before everyone. Totally illegal and fuck those mods and fuck reddit and moons its better this way.

Glass_Look_959

Yes. I am counting on it. Load up on the put spreads for August and September if ETH comes back in June

herzmeister

you don't mention the most important aspect, a centralized setup means regulatory pressure will either force them to become a bank eventually (it's possible that one day you'll have to do KYC when you want to use Solana or ETH just like with any neo-bank), or (more likely) they will exit-scam when push comes to a shove. most shitcoins tell you they have the better "technology", but it was never about technology why legacy banking is expensive and slow, it is regulatory. as a proper bank you have to lawyer up and implement a lot of expensive compliance things.

jeremiahcp

This is stock, not crypto.. . . Major AI-related technology stocks such as Nvidia, Meta, Google, Amazon, Micron, TSMC, Oracle, and similar companies are not going to behave like crypto. They can be volatile, but they are still ownership stakes in real companies with revenue, assets, cash flow, customers, and products. Crypto, including Bitcoin, is fundamentally a speculative asset. That doesn't mean it can't be profitable. I am stacking ETH myself. But it should be treated as a speculative position because it is capable of massive swings in either direction that have little connection to underlying cash flow or earnings. For a tax-sheltered account with a 10+ year horizon, the primary focus should be long-term compounding through quality businesses. My view is that AI-related technology stocks are still the most logical place to concentrate growth. The AI infrastructure buildout is ongoing, data centers are still being constructed, and companies are investing enormous amounts of capital into labor force automation and AI deployment. If that trend continues, demand for semiconductors, memory, networking equipment, power infrastructure, and raw materials will continue to grow. If the AI boom succeeds, many of these companies will benefit directly. If the AI boom fails, the broader market will likely suffer, but speculative assets such as crypto will probably be hit even harder. That's why AI-related technology stocks make more sense as a core long-term growth allocation. Crypto can have a place in a portfolio, but it should not be treated as if it carries the same risk profile as established technology companies.

Sufficient-Rent9886

i think the harder lesson is deciding when to sell before you buy, not after the market moves against you. If your reason for buying BTC, ETH, and SOL hasn't changed, being down a little isn't automatically a reason to cut losses. A lot of people end up making emotional descisions when prices drop, then regret it later if the thesis was still intact. Personally, i'd be asking myself whether anything fundamental changed, or if it's just normal volatility, because those are very different situations. Nobody really knows when they'll come back or how high they'll go, thats the part that keeps all of us humble.

TheShadowInvestor

*L'analyse est solide. La structure de liquidité a effectivement changé.* *Mais il manque une conclusion pratique : si la saison des altcoins est morte, le retail n'a plus qu'une seule option rationnelle BTC, ETH, et passer à autre chose.* *Les gens cherchent le prochain 10x. Le marché leur a appris à chercher ça. Désapprendre prend du temps.* *The Shadow Investor*

InnerPepperInspector

Crypto has fundamentals? What's the P/E for ETH again?

InnerPepperInspector

If you have lost faith in ETH, you should sell now. Sunk cost fallacy and all

crossoverXYZ

The longer I'm in this space the more I've converged on a boring strategy: heavy allocation to BTC and ETH, small allocation to things I've actually researched deeply (not just seen shilled), and never investing more than I'd genuinely be fine losing. The people I know who've done best over multiple cycles are the patient ones with strong conviction, not the ones constantly rotating into the newest narrative. Execution discipline beats intelligence in this market almost every time.

a2ztimes

execute a swap directly on MetaMask to ETH or any stablecoin, you will see the final value on the swap screen

CryptoMemeEdu

The hardest lesson in crypto isn't about charts or tech — it's emotional discipline. Buying at the top and panic-selling at the bottom is probably the most expensive mistake you can make, and almost everyone does it at least once. What helped me: stop looking at USD value. Look at BTC/ETH ratios instead. If your stack grows in crypto terms, you're winning even when the dollar chart looks rough. Time in the market > timing the market, cliché as it is.

SpontaneousDream

It makes millions of dollars *every single day* and something like 97% of that money programatically buys spot Hype. It's the best tokenomics in crypto, by far. Also its the only coin making new ATHs against everything (BTC, ETH, USD, etc).

ConsciousSkyy

Believe what you want. Charts show a totally different picture. Market doesn’t value ETH as money, end of story.

Original-Read-6475

Lol sure. It could barely even reach its 2021 cycle peak during the 2025 bull market. For 2029 I predict a cycle top value of ~$4900. Look at the ETH/BTC chart and then tell me this coin has any value.

baIIern

Exactly. Doesn't happen to ETH 👍🏻

Crypto-Bets

Nope. XMR is not ideal for a terrorist organization, they wouldn’t be able to spend it & slippage would be massive. They should have stuck to Solana & ETH like most terrorist……

Pretend-Regret-7342

I am all in on ETH and SOL. I am currently borrowing against these tokens as collateral to get some money to spend for daily usage.

terp_studios

Sell ETH and Solana right now. Keep Bitcoin forever and just take loans out against it as it appreciates in fiat terms.

HSuke

That's because ETH has many testnets and goes through thorough testing. That being said, they have absolutely destroyed their testnets with bugs similar to this before. (E.g. Goerli and Holesky)

BillNye69

Since May 2021, BTC and ETH in my port. No growth

neverhodlHQ

El DCA con ajuste dinámico es inteligente, pero le falta una pieza: saber cuándo PARAR de acumular y empezar a proteger.   Tu spreadsheet optimiza la entrada. Pero sin una señal de salida basada en datos, en el próximo ciclo alcista vas a ver tus ETH hacer x5... y luego devolver el 80% porque "esta vez es diferente". Pasó en 2018, en 2021, y va a pasar otra vez.                              Lo que yo haría: añadir a tu modelo un indicador compuesto que combine on-chain (MVRV, NUPL) + macro (M2, Fear & Greed) + derivados (funding rates). Cuando ese indicador supere el percentil 75-80 histórico, tu spreadsheet debería invertir la lógica: en vez de "cuánto comprar esta semana", calcular "cuánto tomar de ganancias esta semana".                           Acumular es fácil. Todo el mundo se siente genio comprando el dip. La parte difícil — la que separa al 5% que realmente genera riqueza — es vender cuando todo tu timeline dice "vamos a $10K ETH".   Tu sistema de entrada es sólido. Ahora constrúyele el sistema de salida. Los datos existen solo hay que usarlos.

dflagella

Look into Circle's Arc L1 that aims to be an economic OS for stablecoin settlement. Existing L1s like ETH won't act as the settlement layer but will interact with it. I'd look at which existing L1 is taking significant market share of tokenization. I've always thought AVAX has potential here

steppe5

It doesn't happen to ETH 🤷

Invisible-Pepper349

Long term I still think BTC is the safer play, but ETH has more actual network utility. Only annoying thing is fees when activity spikes...think I’ve nearly paid more in gas than the deposit itself using ETH primarily on crypto casino͏ sites like St͏ake, Roo͏bet and my favourite Ace͏bet...

Scriptor87

ETH is actually undervalued. But with this I mean that it can reach 10-15k in a good bullrun. But 40k and more is a wild call. Sounds more promising to play the lottery…

Blackiris-Code

If they believe what they're saying, why aren't they buying more ETH themselves?

__redruM

Well they should start buying all the ETH they can at a the current price. Imma wait and see.

HoldCtrlW

Easy ETH short here.

counterboy12

Semi correct: A monolithic L1 like ETH might get modular with layer 2s, but it’s still not regarded as a real modular chain, since L2s come with different threats and faults

Odd-Orange-5122

So what's the play then? Just hold BTC and ETH and cry?

Anda-Tamarua

I’ll take altseason seriously when ETH/BTC stops looking like it needs therapy. Until then, every random alt pump is just rotation, not resurrection.

Expensive-Paint-9490

The main problem is that cryptocurrencies are easily manipulated (because of low loquidity and lack of regulations). This makes altcoins, even ETH, disproportionately more risky vs their potential larger gains. It means that BTC has a better investment profile overall. It won't make you rich in few years, not anymore.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

The stablecoin thesis makes more sense to me than chasing random narratives tbh. Feels like the boring “picks and shovels” side of crypto. ETH and TRON especially already have insane stablecoin usage compared to most chains people hype on here. I’d just be careful assuming usage automatically translates to price action the way people expect. Crypto loves disconnecting fundamentals from reality for months at a time.

KrustyLemon

But what would I even use ETH for?

12161986

I'd love to see ETH that high! Would absolutely love it! I understand the application and use of ETH way more than I understand BTCs and because of that I'm sure ETH will never rise above 5,000.

Extreme-Benefyt

ETH feels like the safer infra bet there. TRON moves a ton of USDT, but Justin Sun/governance vibes always feel a bit sketchy to me

RealMercuryRain

Per one ETH or the whole market share?

ChangeNOW_Community

ETH, BTC, DOGE don’t move in isolation , they move based on where risk appetite concentrates, not past drawdowns

cyger

They need to, so they can suppress the price via wintermute. Binance has done this repeatably with ETH and SOL, (NEVER BNB)

Azatis-

Watching my wallet : 1000 ETH Posting on X : Ethereum Price at $40,000 Despite ETH Slump I wonder why i post such things

Itslittlealexhorn

Core devs do care about ETH price since that ultimately secures the network. If ETH is too cheap then the network becomes vulnerable. But yeah, as long as it's expensive enough they don't really care about pushing the price and would rather improve throughput and user experience. That may be why the price has been lagging. There's no "CEO" here who feels an obligation toward stake holders to maximize profit. So even if the project is wildly successful, there's no guarantee that it will ever pay off for ETH holders.

CodyEngel

You're complaining about Crypto as a whole. It's incredibly easy and quick to send BTC from one address to another. What's not easy is when BTC needs to first convert to ETH or SOL or another protocol first. I don't disagree with the pain point buts it's also not for BTC to solve either.

brandonholm

Too many to count. Some that come to mind are ETH and other ERC-20s, LTC, XLM, and way back in the day were Feathercoin and Terracoin. I’m glad I never fell for the XRP or HBAR shams.

no_choice99

You are missing that when you stake using delegation, you give up your ETH to a smart contract. Your ETH won't be protected via your wallet anymore. It's a high risk for a little reward (around 1 percent APY). Not worth it in my case. About hardware wallet you're right, both open source hardware and software is an absolute must. If you have any doubt you can ask some AIs to analyze the security yourself if you're lacking technical knowledge, among other verifications.

troythedefender

🤷🏻‍♂️. People don't want to think or read, it's a reflection of society as a whole. Mindless herd. The herd is currently selling everything they own to buy a handful of grossly inflated tech stocks that will take a massive dump on them soon enough. The Trump era pump and dump market manipulation shell game can only last so long. To each his own, I'm not selling all crypto, if they weren't idiots they'd already be diversified into S&P and crypto. The number of posts in crypto group telling people to flee crypto and buy stocks is humorous - they want to pump those tech stocks to the max before selling - meanwhile they will be loading up their BTC and ETH etc. I'm enjoying the show nevertheless.

PenguinsInvading

Those are DeFi concept. Let's say you're buyingBTC, ETH, ARB, AVAX and a bunch of other coins for bullrun. Instead of sending them to your hard wallet and hope for 10k% in gains, you use some of your bag to generate even more coins. When I want to swap my ETH for ARB using DEX, there needs to be some ARB and some ETH in the dex so that my request gets filled. Who provides them in the dex? Me, you, whales, ordinary people etc. There has to be enough Liquidity in the asset pool. In DeFi, you can participate in this. You deposit your assets, people use your LP to swap, you get a percentage of the fees. Your assets generate money for you.

Capital-Assistance84

ETH is here to stay and it has a incredible future. I have been lurking this sub for a decade almost and this is just yet another cycle of fear on top of people being upset about the price action. The ebbs and flows of all markets can be a bitch sometimes but you got to stay mentally strong and cut through all the noise, stick to your values and what you believe in, Its going to be okay. I see ETH as a long term hold and the tech is clearly outpacing the rest of the crypto space. For what it is worth Vitalik holds 90% of his money in ETH still.

PenguinsInvading

Yest but remember if you're gonna borrow alt coin, you have to have a solid understanding of the current market conditions. If it's a bullish market you simply borrow stablecoin, convert them alt coins and create LPs or farm using them or trade. But for bear market you do the opposite, you borrow alts then swap to stablecoin. For the first scenario you do this because in a bulish market your assets are constantly creating higher highs and higher lows. So you pocket your profit and pay back the stablecoins your borrowed. BUT if you borrow alt coin, for example ETH, since it's a bullish market, the ETH has also gone up in price. You can apply the opposite for bear market. One key note: you have to correctly figure out marke trajectory. Otherwise you risk liquidation. Don't jump into defi without proper instructions. Start wuth small amout and figure things out.

BenzinaGrandeCapital

Sold 1 BTC and 10 ETH back when BTC was only 45k and ETH was 3k

theultimateusername

got really into leverage at the end of the last bullrun and was impatient, put around 2BTC, 15 ETH and around 100 BNB as collatoral for $100k trades at 10x. for some dumbass reason i shorted near the bottom (around 16k) expecting it to dip a couple of thousand dollars. of course it hit mid-15's and shot up from there and burned what would be around a quarter of a million dollars worth today. needless to say i dont leverage trade anymore 😃

vivalahueva1985

ETH is never comig back to ATH.... bitcoin might...any other crypto. I doubt. Too manipulated

ConsciousSkyy

It’s money because the market believes it’s money. Satoshi designed it as money. Why do you think governments, pension funds, companies, HNWIs, and millions of people around the world hodl BTC? Just for shits and giggles lol? ETH is not money, it’s a gas token that captures basically zero value 😂 You new here or something?

MinimalGravitas

The demand for blockspace is going to be a lot higher in the future. 4 months ago Larry Fink of Blackrock (the biggest asset manager in the world) was presenting at Davos to the WEF about his vision of bringing the entire financial system onto a single common blockchain. Since then Blackrock have filed for 2 more Ethereum based tokenization projects. UBS (the biggest private bank and wealth manager in the world) who were also there promoting a similar intention have also deployed multiple tokenization projects onto Ethereum, but more important than any specific one is that they are part of an international group of banks, regulators, and other financial institutions working under the banner of 'Project Guardian' to bring global finance onchain. In my opinion this project is one of the biggest 'hidden-in-plain-sight' pieces of 'alpha' that anyone in this space could be learning about at the moment. Unfortunately very few people can be bothered to do any research themselves and so will know nothing about it until an algorithm or influencer feeds it to them, by which point the opportunity to benefit will be gone... Other members of the group such as DBS (biggest bank in Singapore); Deutsche Bank (one of the biggest banks in Germany); and JPMorgan (3rd biggest asset manager in the world), have also deployed projects to Ethereum. Anyway, to make a long story short, real adoption is coming, and Ethereum is going to need the blockspace capacity that at the moment seems like an excess. Gas fees are low now because the network has futureproofed itself for the requirements that are coming. When expanding transaction volume start to approach the new upgraded limits we will again see the burn increase and the demand for ETH to pay for transactions increase again... however because the capacity and volume will both be so much higher than back in the first deflationary 'ultrasound' phase, the individual gas fee can be much lower to get to the same or greater overall total. So transaction costs won't be too high for users, while the burning of base fees can make ETH deflationary and so please holders... win-win for everyone. Ultimately, with 'STARKification', ZK provers and statelessness the chain's capacity can be increased almost arbitrarily highly without sacrificing the ability for a regular user to run a node and verify the network on low cost hardware. That is probably what will be required for the ultimate fulfillment of onboarding the majority of the global financial system to an open, permissionless, decentralized network. The more transactions there are the cheaper each one can be while maintaining the deflation of ETH. And obviously, we are talking about sophisticated financial entities, they will realize this too and so buy ETH based on the knowledge that it will have an increasing demand over time. And unlike BTC, the demand will not just be based on hope for an eternal sequence of 'greater fools', but on real need for the asset to pay for transactions. Hopefully that addresses your question sufficently. Don't you just get warm fuzzy feelings thinking about the world's economic institutions moving their assets onto a network that is at least in part secured by $200 DIY hardware running in random peoples' living rooms! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkrBARsNicI

Jayar9000

I always had him more as an ETH simp

Worried-Low4580

lol it’s funny you think pointing out parameters of the top 100 supports your argument. Yes, we will certainly see an altcoin season where the top 100 gets residual flows from the influx of formal capital investment. Comparing to 2024-25 is naive. The difference is that you are isolating a time period where formal institutions were making one by one exceptions and mostly for btc. These institutions did not broadly accept and jump into “crypto”, the jumped into btc and maybe ETH (for the most part). Once there is clarity across the industry, there will be a more wide spread effect that yes will impact the top100. Not the whole market but deff top 100. You been hanging in those btc maxi echo chambers too long

Starkey18

Is this fully recovered ETH still available?

oopssomething

Ok got liquidated didnt expect ETH to fully recover today

liquid_at

I think the classic "BTC" vs. "Alts" classification isn't working anymore. We have seen a split with ETH pulling up earlier and various classes following, one after the other. But I am still unsure if it will be an extended cycle with more steps, like BTC->highCap->Currency->governance->... or if it will be more of a spagetti-mix, with random projects popping off, giving some sympathy gains to adjacent projects, without any real predictability to it... What we can say though is that the multiplier for bitcoin has done about minus 2/3rd of the previous cycle, This means it would be the last time Bitcoin would go up over 100% in a single run, with the one following already being \~70%. This must affect alts also.

No_Knee3385

ETH and BTC are really some of the only chains that are decentralized, and even they are controlled by a few dozen companies

MediumLibrarian7100

ETH at the cycle lows is a smart move. Vitalik dropped a quantum roadmap recently I believe so it’s definitely here to stay.

thebalancewithin

Not dropping a dollar into alts at this point, maybe some ETH if it gets even lower but I'll just stake

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Upset_Albatross_9179

>The price action has been crap This connection had always seemed a bit strange to me. As you say, ETH has *a lot* of activity. It's very useful. But why should that be connected to the price of ETH? If lots of people want to buy and hold ETH, that drives up price. If there's a huge demand to have ETH to execute useful functions, that drives price up. But the if there's some innovation to make those transactions faster and easier, that makes ETH more useful and eases demand and probably drives down ETH price. It's a good thing for users if ETH is very useful. It's a good thing for investors in ETH price appreciates. It's really not clear to me that they have to or should be related.

w0j4k_

Like ETH was “dead” last year and then doubled in only a couple of months. If anything, now is a time to stack crypto. Many stocks are at an ATH, so now would literally be the worst time to get in. Why do people fail to see this? If I were OP, I would indeed hold on a little longer.