XLM

ubermensch1001

He isn't the only one, there were several other posters on here that were arguing with me about this. This was a reply I made to another poster more or less arguing with me about the same thing pertaining to buying ETH vs. ADA right now. "Let's say we go into 2027; the market is starting to get into a bullish environment and BTC is trading at 90k+. Let's say ETH at this point is trading at 4k, so a little over a 50% move from here. What do you think would happen with the rest of the alts? In this environment, do you see ADA at best matching ETH's performance by only being at 30 cents? Very short term price action is impossible to predict and pointless. For instance, in the fall of 2024 ADA was trading around 35 cents while ETH was at a similar price to where we are currently, about $2400. After the 2024 election hype ADA traded as high as $1.30 while ETH peaked at about 4k. I'll use XLM as an example from that same time period. Right before the election it was trading around 10 cents and then climbed above 50 cents at it's peak, so a 5x. A weak example would be LTC, it was around $65 and peaked at a little over $100 in this same time period. Another one is Bcash, both of these had very little price movement for years leading up to this, at least relative to the rest of the alts out there. The whole point is that when we do get bullish phases with alts, ETH leads and many of the alts with smaller market caps will OUTPERFORM it. IF someone were looking to do this, they need to be able to identify the correct time to be buying. I'm not saying people should do this, the point is that when ETH pops hard relative to BTC the broader alt coin market follows along even stronger. It has nothing to do with fundamentals of the coin lol. If you aren't aware, virtually all alts, including ETH, are primarily driven by hype and speculation. Picking the horse that runs the fastest is honestly going to come down to luck. What is NOT luck is identifying when these alts are low and where they could be making large gains for profit. What you are seeing now is NOT a bullish phase in the market, it's a bear market rally. This is not the same as the Q1 2024 ETF pump, the Q4 election pump or the spring 2021 alt season. When this occurs again, and it will, you will see what I'm describing here play out."

ubermensch1001

Bro, I'm talking about right here and right fucking now with ADA. The guy has these coins locked in at the time we are writing on here. Let's say we go into 2027; the market is starting to get into a bullish environment and BTC is trading at 90k+. Let's say ETH at this point is trading at 4k, so a little over a 50% move from here. What do you think would happen with the rest of the alts? In this environment, do you see ADA at best matching ETH's performance by only being at 30 cents? Very short term price action is impossible to predict and pointless. For instance, in the fall of 2024 ADA was trading around 35 cents while ETH was at a similar price to where we are currently, about $2400. After the 2024 election hype ADA traded as high as $1.30 while ETH peaked at about 4k. I'll use XLM as an example from that same time period. Right before the election it was trading around 10 cents and then climbed above 50 cents at it's peak, so a 5x. A weak example would be LTC, it was around $65 and peaked at a little over $100 in this same time period. Another one is Bcash, both of these had very little price movement for years leading up to this, at least relative to the rest of the alts out there. The whole point is that when we do get bullish phases with alts, ETH leads and many of the alts with smaller market caps will OUTPERFORM it. IF someone were looking to do this, they need to be able to identify the correct time to be buying. I'm not saying people should do this, the point is that when ETH pops hard relative to BTC the broader alt coin market follows along even stronger. It has nothing to do with fundamentals of the coin lol. If you aren't aware, virtually all alts, including ETH, are primarily driven by hype and speculation. Picking the horse that runs the fastest is honestly going to come down to luck. What is NOT luck is identifying when these alts are low and where they could be making large gains for profit.

Sumdumfuqr

I’d buy the one with regulatory clarity that the central banks are working with XRP and XLM I know people (and me) hate banks and the system, but the system ain’t going anywhere so it’s a safe bet. All the central bank CBDC’s are being built on the XRPL sidechains and you have to use XRP to use the XRPL so there will always be actual demand. Many more reasons but I won’t list em here.

Infinite_Raise8611

Well by pure return vs BTC Eth underperformed, SOL absolutely destroyed BTC, AVAX underperformed, XRP underperformed but hardly, XLM basically same return, and Zcash obliterated them all. I sold all near top and have reentered and am very confident in my allocation heading towards this next cycle. Would be shocked if ETH/SOL don’t outperform BTC this next cycle.

CajunMoose

XRP XLM and HBAR. top 3

Infinite_Raise8611

I don’t disagree at all- my crypto portfolio comprised of 60% BTC 18% ETH, 15% SOL/some AVAX/XRP/XLM and rest alt moonshots. I just don’t believe in the industry wide hype wave up again. It’ll be isolated projects w solid fundamentals along w random meme coins. Had little bit of Zcash but dumped it on pump- hope to reenter at some point

gunnychamero

Buying coins like XRP, ADA, XLM coz they are cheap and could make them billionares !

SadMall6272

XLM, Avalanche, Polkadot

TooEasyBGM

Xrp XLM the way for a good move hopefully next 2-3 months 🥲🥲🙏🙏🙏

Temporary-Cause730

The issue is that there is a lot of supply overhang and people underwater on XLM, this creates a strong sell pressure if it starts going up. It is still more than 4x away from ATHs, with a huge resistance at around 0.50\~0.60. And regarding then launching whatever they were working on, it has been a decade, how much longer do they need? Hyperliquid came and shipped a ton of cool and inovative stuff in 1 year, the market rewards that, teams need to move fast.

Top_Bluejay_9483

I would push back on XLM. It's already moved and their partnership with the DTCC has some hooks. I watched a interview with their ceo after its first move. She wasnt interested in the price action because "it's narrstive driven and there isnt an army to keep the price inflated". Said late 2026 - 2027 is when they planned on launching whatever they were working on and that the capitol investment would be of a different kind than general crypto moves.

Temporary-Cause730

I don't think we will have a broad altseason where every coin pumps, like we did in other cycles. Too many coins now, so it's very important that you select good coins to hold. I also think that many dino coins from the past won't have a good performance, like XRP, ADA, XLM. The coins that will pump will be the ones that generate revenue, like HYPE, LIT, PUMP. 

rling_reddit

I haven't used Uphold, but I am holding XRP and XLM. It is a good humility exercise.

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Temporary-Cause730

Sell XLM and buy BTC/ETH/HYPE

Nose_Grindstoned

Zcash was one of my favs, for transfers and for buying things. But then I learned about their ties. I use XLM now, are they shady?

joebmurphy55

I have no BTC at all. It was just too expensive to buy any substantial amount. Sure, I would have loved to buy it at $100, $500, or $ 1,000, but that ship has sailed. I just really don't see the point of buying $1000 worth of Bitcoin and getting 1/78th of a Bitcoin. Even if Bitcoin took off and doubled, I would only double my original investment. Not enough to retire on. However, if I spend that same thousand on XRP, XLM, HBAR, or one of the other alts under a dollar, and it takes off and goes to $5, $10, or $20, I have made much more with the same investment. I don't have the kind of money it would take to buy a substantial amount of Bitcoin that I could retire on, so for me it's just a matter of mathematics. Bitcoin is not an option for me.

Electronic_Quote399

Im going with morpho over Aave. They partnered with coinbase and made the lending against staked assets super easy and seamless, crazy low fees, but most importantly, the button is RIGHT on the main dashboard and it says "borrow up to ___". I took a couple morpho loans to ape into a brutal dip on a couple different things. Worked seamlessly, easy, and paid almost no interest. Ether always leads the pack, solana will catch up, i was into avax but am scaling out of it. Keeta has been saving my ass all year with its wild swings, idk about it long term tho. Don't like hbar much, but I had a little and it did ok. Xrp crushed it today but I still think its trash. I like XLM a bit better

opensandshuts

Interesting to look at bc presumably, the higher the recent gain in the last 24, presumably the more short interest. I see this less as a chart about winning as a chart about where there is considerably doubt in the market. That doubt can be ranked as follows: 1. HYPE 2. STETH/WSTETH 3. ETH 4. XRP 5. XLM Seems investors are betting most heavily against these.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Not a chance these 3 are massive projects just look at where HBar, XLM and Algo sit on top ranked cryptos, true utility tokens These are the best buys for the money Might even buy some SUI next

Mysterious_Sleep7443

You forgot to mention XLM, HBAR and Algo these are not shot meme coins, please adjust your original post to include what i have mentioned Thanks in advance

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Your outta your mind Please explain how Hbar, XLM and Algo is a scam Get Fkd

Dangerous-Bed-5885

BTC is pointless now. Could swap that for like 2,000 XLM or some more XRP, or a crap Ron of HBAR. Maybe even get 1.5 TAO

Only-Environment7550

Big difference, but the primary is their target audience: XRP is built for big banks and institutional settlements via Ripple, while XLM (Stellar Lumens) focuses on individual users, peer-to-peer transfers, and financial inclusion, like us the poor...so yes you are diversifying when having both in your portfolio.

Floridamanfishcam

Financial institutions use public bridge assets like XRP or XLM because a private blockchain only works if both sending and receiving banks trust and join the exact same closed network. Xrp would also get them out of the pre funded nostra accounts.

crookedVessel

Yeah, most alts from a cycle or two ago never come back to their old highs. ALGO and XLM have been around a long time and neither has done much. If you'd want to own more BTC in five years, the boring move is rotating some of the tail into it and not touching it tbh

Timely-Fig2030

E.g.: ETH, SUI, XLM , ICP, BTC, TAO, etc. Centralized fake-crypto, such as pengu, bonk, mother, hogan, turbo, popcat, ... and the billions of other shitcoins, created by 12 year old pimple assholes or a corrupt president or a wannabie star is not decentralized, nor trustless. Fuck memecoins!

J5966358

So AI bubble bursts and than money flows only into XLM, Algo, Hear? Pls confirm so I can place my oddly specific longs.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Not meme bullshit XLM, Algo, Hbar only

Mysterious_Sleep7443

The only thing id be buying is Algo, XLM and Hbar Easy 40X

Jenn2895

Banks already announced their partnerships. Almost all of them are using their own private blockchains, they are all partnered with Chainlink for CCIP & CRE, using Stellr XLM & Canton, etc. They already started transitioning & active. Just takes time to scale.

blaziken8x

Hey man, aren't stocks pretty much always at ATHs? You could have made the statement "stocks are at ATHs" pretty much any time like last 10-15 years. I have both stocks, etfs and crypto. (plenty of XLM too, but I'll still shill BTC and diversification)

Mysterious_Sleep7443

The only thing you should be holding is Algo Hbar and XLM Why would anyone moron buy stocks or ETFs when this stuff 10X in an hour Also stocks are at an ATH Only morons buy that garbage

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Why the F would you Bitcoin when you can 10X on Algo, XLM and Hbar

Seisouhen

XLM is pretty great, it also recently did this https://dailycoin.com/stellar-flips-ethereum-in-government-debt-tokenization/

CivilSenpai69

Depends on where you are.  I had no problems using XLM while traveling.  

exitof99

Coinbase randomly required I revalidate my bank account, but it wanted me to do so using Plaid. Plaid actually required at that time (and still might) access to your banking web portal. They literally created fake bank login screens that looked like your bank, and if you entered your username and password, it would then sign into your bank account to "verify" your account. I realized something was off, so I refused to sign in at requested to my bank account. They wound up getting sued for this and settled a $58 million dollar class action lawsuit (admitting no wrong, but happy to pay out). In order to fund Coinbase, I used a convoluted way which involved setting up an account with Fidelity because they do not charge for wires, wiring funds to Kraken because they didn't charge to receive wires, converting the USD to XLM, transferring the XLM to Coinbase with low fees, then selling the XLM at a percentage or two above for a small bump. The funny thing is I would up really liking Fidelity and have since been investing in stocks rather than crypto. I do miss the 24/7 trading, but I'm lucky to have about broken even with all of my crypto adventures (did well with BTC, lost on alts). And if you want volatility, the Elon stocks are that. Bought TSLA at sold for 130% profit. SPCX is doing the exact pattern of a new crypto on an exchange, opens and spikes, then drops below to initial price and slowly declines. I fully expect that SPCX will be another TSLA over the next few years, so DCAing it.

thats_gotta_be_AI

I made plenty of money with XRP in 2017/18 Christmas/New Year, 2021, and November 2024. Also with XLM.

misterbiggler

I can say he’s terrible but at same time stick with the way everything played out. I made 7 figures off of his election in XLM and XRP and another $200k off $trump alone. It was worth jt

Jenn2895

Most banks created their own private chains. They are using chainlinks services though. (Link is not a blockchain) So far between Swift & DTCC I know Chainlink, Ethereum, Canton & XLM will all benefit.

ProfessionalAir104

If you want to start small. Buy 1000 XRP. 10000 HBAR. 10000 XLM. 10 QNT. 10000 XDC. All of these company’s have great backgrounds and are backed by a great team. Buy this amount and come back in ten years. You can thank me. Shouldn’t cost you more than $10K or less.

Routine-Can-1678

Macro regime change. Turns out, most altcoins are really just doing an interest rate carry trade. You borrow money from a bank at near 0% interest rate, shove it into Aave or Compound or Curve for about 5%, profit. The liquidity spillover is the part that fuels the really stupid stuff like NFTs, DOGE, etc. We went from 0-0.25% interest and $100b/month free money from the Fed to about 4% interest and $100b/month of Fed taking money away. Every Ethereum + copycat, L2, and things that rely on spillover liquidity died simultaneously for 2022-2025, because the money vanished. The only things that stayed alive were things like: Bitcoin Treasury companies: MSTR, Strive, Metaplanet Crypto stocks: COIN, HOOD Futures trading protocol: Injective, HyperLiquid Bitcoin-similar protocol: Kaspa DeFi with 20-150% interest rates: Sui Organic meme-casino: Solana, Raydium OG memes: DOGE, BONK, PEPE In the late cycle, when retail boomers see headlines about Bitcoin ATHs and get very greedy, but balk at the price, they get interested in XRP. XLM also gets a boost because it's the same narrative. After that, everything dies. The only profitable thing during a bear market is IBIT puts.

Aromatic-Ad7987

Hbar - Nothing that it doesnt do well. Link - Is working with almost everyone King of Oracles XLM - Very good at what it was designed to do

Chickensrock1977

Huh, no love for XLM? Which has been chosen by the DTCC for a percentage of moving Quadrillions per year, let alone more adoption in other areas of the DLT sphere. Is in several and assuredly more ETFs. Plus Flare is coming soon for FXLM to stake and lock up more XLM. Crazy, I’m loading up under $.20 lol.

smokehashdaily710

XLM is indeed solid, one on my list to stock up on before this bull run starts

futurefloridaman87

XLM- real use case for the masses. Plus an OG.

JustStopppingBye

They have literally lost all their value and continue to do so except XLM. All your gains with XLM will be wiped out by buying irrelevant shit coins.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

Absolutely not Algo , XLM, Hbar are top tokens Just down at the moment I have patience and been around since 2016 Im actually using my profit money to buy 1000$ weekly across all 3

The_Roaring_Fork

XLM fans want to act like XLM is the only chain with DTCC agreement

Mysterious_Sleep7443

I would definitely touch ALTs XLM, ALGO, HBar will 50X shortly

Peach_Lover_101

My "all time" is break even only due to selling MANA at the top (80x, my only real successful crypto trade). Should have sold everything back then. round tripped the rest of the pile twice like a retard. though if you held about half of your stash in ETH and BTC you shouldn't look as bad as that. The Coinbase bag is mostly dinosaurs: BTC, ETH, LINK, XRP, XLM, ADA, HBAR. Got more adventurous plays on Kraken and Coinbase wallet which honestly, I'm afraid to even look at.

SkyEnvironmental7746

Flare is a Crypto currency built by a legit team focusing on bringing defi to Bitcoin and XRP, XLM, DOGE, Litecoin, WETH. I have sent tons of transactions on blockchain Flare pays you a passive income. I’m making about $7K a year at current prices. For every penny Flare moves after $0.009964 which is my average buy price. My net worth explodes $100K. At $0.02 I make $100K profit. $0.03 another $100K profit.

diamondblaster67

XLM

SeriousGreenA

BTC, XLM, ETH MINIMA will be everywhere as it is quantum resistant, fully descentralised and it can run from ARM to PC.

blur04

BTC obviously HBAR ALGORAND XRP XDC XLM

Novel-Common-3547

Talking about future, we have to take into account a possibility of crypto space being more and more (if not fully) integrated into current financial systems. With that in mind, big financial institutions would probably go with ISO compliant cryptos. Those are mainly XRP, ADA, XLM, MIOTA, ALGO, HBAR, XDC and QNT. Will BTC be around? Well, probably yes. Being the biggest now, being considered a store of value “like gold”, it will probably be with us for many many many years. Big players like ETH and SOL have big and great communities behind them. But, I am honestly not sure if that is enough, if cryptos become integrated. I think they would, if not being ISO compliant, lose its value. Interesting, tho very speculative, is Worldcoin. Sam Altman being one of the creators and Peter Thiel being one of the primary financial backers, who knows what can happen.

Beginning_Pop_4637

Without a doubt, Yes, It’s a good time….. Market leaders only, Bitcoin, Etherium, HBAR, AAVE, ADA, Solana, XLM.   Those are some great ones, there are others.   

YoItsRico

I hope Quant does well, Doge XLM and XRP will still be here but you would make much more money elsewhere.

MJDiAmore

XLM is actively used in the real world substantially. Otherwise agree.

SkyEnvironmental7746

All of it is compounding. FLARE, XRP, HBAR. Soon XLM and Doge will join. Paying taxes on it out of my salary.

SkyEnvironmental7746

Just don’t let go XRP, QNT, HBAR, XLM, XDC, these in my opinion are long term holds. 10 years

Rehcraeser

Besides XLM

neo-caridina

Sooooo CC, XLM, ETH, LINK, ONDO, TEMPO, or what?

paytiencecanwait

XRP XLM SHx thank me in 20 years and to the future well hello there 🤠

puddingboofer

XLM

OdonsOwn1966

That's a heck a jump in. My total crypto exposure is still less than 1 percent of investments. I just use my play money and my lady at Edward Jones handles the rest. Should be accumulating a bit using DCA, but as fast as other investments are growing, it'll always be a fraction unless BTC, ETH, XRP or XLM blow up (preferably all of them). At least you are getting in at a good time.

Timely-Fig2030

All the main blockchains be good picks: SUI, ICP, Algo, VET, XLM, ETH, ADA, etc. Opened yesterday a post on CryptoCurrencies about it: 4.3k views, 0 likes These idiots still think blockchains are dead and want to gamble memecoins. Little do they know, that there are no memecoins without blockchains. The space has become so dumb and uneuphoric that now might be the best time to enter goat blockchains. Btw, fuck memecoins!

numbersev

LINK, HBAR, XLM. Research them.

ExMachima

I keep posting it. XLM.

RastaBooties

Beside Eth, I would probably consider XLM (Stellar), it has been consistent through cycles but it's nowhere near its bear market levels yet.

biggest_guru_in_town

They are most likely to utilize cheap alts like the stellar XLM network. A fintech platform recently came online for Caribbean and African freelancers and remote workers who wish to save their earnings in USD, its like a virtual US bank account. They give each account a crypto wallet address that only can receive and send Stellar USDC. I find it handy as an off ramp.

unknowngloomth

80% BTC. XRP outperformed ETH last cycle. I didn't look into HBAR yet. Isn't XLM a XRP 2.0? I know a friend of mine who holds XLM

ExMachima

I keep posting it. XLM

Sad_Significance2541

Buy XLM all ya need to do in crypto, buy as much as ya can.

Animated_effigy

Im interested in coins that are getting full on regulatory backing by the US right now as everyone goes full adoption. Any of these coins now have full regulatory backing: BTC, Eth, Sol, XRP, ADA, Avax, Link, Dot, Hbar, XLM, Lotecoin, Doge, Shiba Inu, Tezos, BTC Cash, and Aptos

hoppeeness

Canton, XLM, quant,HBAR

The_Roaring_Fork

XLM shills in shambles.

Interesting-Lab-7128

XNO, XLM, HBAR look good

biggest_guru_in_town

I do notice utility coins having stagnation in prices,are dirt cheap or take extremely long to reach something close to an ath before sinking again. Polygon,DOT,XLM,Cardano,ETH, etc.

Ok-Suit541

XLM is here to stay

ExMachima

I keep saying it. XLM.

Fun_Performer3120

lmao "horoscopes for traders" is actually accurate but also TA does work sometimes in crypto because enough people believe in it and act on it, so it becomes kind of self-fulfilling. that said XLM doing 26% in the week is not because someone drew triangle on chart

thistimelineisweird

Market cap = price someone is willing to buy * circulating supply.  End of list.  Revenue generation is only a slim part of a use case, and doesnt influence demand the way you are thinking it does. Like, sure, I like that I can stake my ETH for some yield, but that's not why I bought some in the slightest.  I actually like XRP and XLM for exactly what you said- they can move money for very little fees at all. 

whitenoise2323

XLM will be processing trillions of transactions when DTCC takes it live.

ExMachima

XLM. I keep telling ya. 

Most-Use-2167

Tbh XRP and XLM were really growing on me, but after actually doing the math. Even with XRP doing 1 billion transactions a day, that would only generate $12,000 in on-chain fees a day at the rate of USD .000012 per transaction as it currently is. I’m kinda lost on the value of these ultra-low fee compliant ledgers like XLM and XRP now. I think there’s some legitimate use-case for RWA projects that form a global bridge for things like stocks and bonds to be traded. But the actual L1 infrastructure itself… I mean VISA only does 901 million transactions a day… I don’t see where the actual L1 itself is supposed to generate the revenue that justifies its current valuation.

Da_WooDr

Siacoin, Holochain, Amp, XRP, XLM, LTC, Dash, BCH, ZEC, VeChain, Mana, ICP, XDC, Algo, Link, FileCoin, XMR,

CivilSenpai69

XLM. That's it. Haven't found a real world use for anything else.

Aromatic-Ad7987

Hbar, Link,XLM,ZEC,

Intelligent_Net_2786

My other bags: BTC, Eth, LInk, Sol, Hype, XLM, ZEC, Tao

Popapalooza

XLM, TAO, BTC, XRP, HBAR, Chainlink

BookOfKingsOfKings

At the moment, XLM. Exited HBAR to reallocate my liquidity but as I am making more income now I may get back into it. Looking into XMR but that one is a little tougher as no exchange wants to carry it these days, nor any cold wallet wants to support it. But I think the privacy-centric design is a big selling point.

thecryptostoic

You really do have to have patience in crypto especially when you're down over 50%... these are the best times to buy in fact to increase your position but also make sure to diversify into other cryptos similar to Solana like SUI. I'd also recommend ISO coins like XRP XLM and HBAR.

Repulsive-Lake1753

Buy some BTC now, then buy some more later. Look into DCAing, and start only with BTC, maybe ETH. Once you've done that, have an account with an exchange, and understand the basics then.... Be sure to look up total supply and how much is out there already/if it's it max supply. BTC has 21MM max coins, XLM has 50BB. Entirely different supply/purposes. Because there are so many more XLM, it's almost never going to go up as much as BTC, for example. Send test transactions of small amounts for any transfer or wallet use.

BookOfKingsOfKings

BTC, XLM. That’s it for now, im too bearish to trust many coins right now, and want to diversify beyond crypto but no clue where to start.

ExMachima

XLM all the signs were there and you ignored it

BookOfKingsOfKings

I am DCAing BTC and one alt, XLM, for now. I want to look to diversifying past crypto but got no idea where to start (ETFs, stocks mutual funds etc) one thing I sure won’t be buying is SPCX. 

jwheel888

I feel like there is money to be made in XLM and XRP. The DTCC partnerships were not for nothing

IdratherBhiking1

XLM