ADA

jhflores516

Cardano was all hype and no substance. I had high hopes for ADA too.

Trick_Candidate_2797

If you like your list fine, but I would take ADA out forsure. Maybe check out STX, ONDO, and PEPE (for the memes)

DBFargie

I still have my bags. 3 of 10 are underwater 50%+. SOL, ETH, and HBAR are my only profitable alts, and just barely at this point. Waited too long for the alt season that never really came. With that being said, I will not liquidate them. Many, like the three mentioned, along with my positions in LINK, ONDO, and even ADA I still believe will do well… eventually. I’ll only grab BTC from here until the market picks back up and hopefully I can break even or even sell those for profit at some point.

xdustx

It's good for the industry. If it would have been just a walk in the park, then Cardano project would have been weaker. Strong competition is good. For me though, personally, I would lose some money but the industry would be stronger and I would not be so sorry for those lost $$$ invested in ADA as I'm not all in. Winners and losers if you just take the financial part. Wide adoption is still ahead of us for any crypto project - that would be the real win, even if the value will stay low.

R50cent

I dunno, I think i understand Cardano pretty well. A big issue of theirs was how they tried to build use cases, often behind others doing similar projects and often in worse ways. Cardano has tokenization! Nobody cared. NFT's? Nope. How about just the coin itself for the use case? Nope. They tried making it a ubiquitous cross border currency in Africa, only to find out that the gas fees destroyed the notions of a low cost coin being used for every day purchases when people were having to shell out a rather large percentage for fees compared to what they had just spent... so that shit failed. Then later on we see Cardano's head Charles Hoskinson rubbing up against the leg of the Trump administration in the hopes that they might put some ADA into the governments coffers in an effort to give it more legitimacy. Trump did what Trump does, and fucked the guy over by not actually accruing any ADA, but by holding on to a small amount the government had already seized... but not before a good solid speculative pump that good old Charles used to make himself lots and lots of money. I remember people laughing at me when I got out around 85 cents at the time. Cardano had a fun idea with Ouroboros, this notion that fees would circle back into wallets through staking, but it seems to not be enough to keep people investing, not when staking their coin through things like Daedalus won't even beat inflation. Then you have the unmitigated failure that Sundaeswap was, with the token to date having lost 99.4 percent of it's overall value. Cardano was/is... in many ways... a worse version of coins like Algorand, which beat it in speed, transaction cost and scalability, but even Algorand didn't win out, and that's what I usually point to when people are confused about the crypto space, because if solid tech in regards to the 'trilemma' is what people were really looking for, they'd have found it in Algorand... but it turns out none of this is about any of that. Cardano survives because it's old, and well known in the space, and because there are still scores of people out there, extolling it's virtues, holding their bags, and waiting.

whodamans

I really haven't paid attention to Crypto in 5+ years... When i did, pay attention, ADA/Cardano was the clear winner on all the technical aspects and i invested. Its never done me any better or worse than anything else. The fact its not in the top 3 at this point just shows nothing really matters, public sentiment, backdoor manipulation, and just straight poopoo magic drives this scene more than any fundamentals and technology.

BouncingDeadCats

As much as I hate Cardano, I consider it still in top 10. What are these garbage OCTA, YZY and WBT ranked ahead of ADA?

Prahasaurus

It's crazy that Cardano was ever in the top 10. It's a useless chain, ADA is basically a meme token for people too proud to buy FARTCOIN on Solana, and too stupid to operate within DeFi on Ethereum.

lambdasintheoutfield

SOL is a shitcoin. People who say it’s a solid choice are only saying it because they overweight the marketing vs the actual core fundamentals. They can’t actually articulate WHY it’s a strong tech choice because they either don’t understand how blockchain works OR they are unaware of significantly superior alternatives. ADA’s tech compared to ALGO and XTZ is also garbage. The way crypto markets work have shifted to almost pure speculation to being based on their interactions with the broader TradFi market. Yes there is obviously still speculation, but the rules of the game have changed and are evolving. Too many people fell victim to the induction bias of the 4 year BTC cycle when we didn’t have such widespread institutional adoption. People who knew better planned accordingly. The same people waited for “altcoin season” for complimentary reasons. Also, price predictions need to be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. In order to make good token selections, there needs to be a genuine understanding of how crypto has shifted. Then, we need to understand there are a lot of choices in each crypto subsector (ex. DeFi) and how much of that market share the coins have, and then intelligently speculate on future price. “Do your own research is true”, but useless as most people are looking at crypto through an outdated and/or myopic lens so the “research” and the conclusions aren’t based on sound principles.

apkatt

ADA has been in and out of top 10 since its launch in 2017, MC ranking is one of the most meaningless metrics anyway. If you want to FUD Cardano why not mentioned that it failed to hit a new ATH in this cycle – which is true for the vast majority of cryptos. This post is beyond stupid.

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piggleii

I'm Charles Hoskinson. And Trump is bad because he doesn't do things that will pump ADA. If I were Trump, I would do such and such so that ADA would pump. And I would do this and that and ADA would pump. But Trump doesn't do those things. That's why ADA doesn't pump.

pressresetnow

Buy ADA!! Just joking

DuckBeddit

Another HBAR bag holder 😂 They are the same as ADA bag holders.

Best-Jackfruit5593

I like HYPE, the only reason why I’m not investing in it is because I feel like it’s dropped hard like the others. Still hasn’t dropped to 50% from last high. What’s CANTON and QNT? What do you believe on them more than the likes of ADA, AVAX or LTC?

ra246

As a bag holder from 2021 to 2025, ADA?!?! Absolutely not.

dirkseyboy78

ETH AVAX ADA NEAR RENDER SOLANA ONDO SUI INJECTIVE Some of these I bought high and they are completely destroyed right now but long-term I have faith in all of them.

Skyobliwind

Would be nice if ADA would finally see some upwards action, but that's more hopium than probability...

biba8163

> Turns out cycle boys were right all along. You led noobs off a cliff > With these prices already, things are getting clearer for 2025: **(Nov 2024)** > - ETH to $5K looks very realistic now. > - **DOGE** should **easily get past $1** this time. > - **SOL to $400** is too conservative. > - **ADA** could match its **ATH**. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1goeu1f/daily_crypto_discussion_november_11_2024_gmt0/lwnpbmg/ > I started doing an inverse r/cryptocurrency about 3 months ago, when everyone was fudding any alts not called SOL. **(Nov 2024)** > So **I started loading up on alts**. I got just a few of the many that people here were shitting hard on: **ETH, ADA, ATOM, DOT.** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gmwzf3/daily_crypto_discussion_november_9_2024_gmt0/lwbu2u2/?context=3 I was honestly expecting alt season not to kick off until summer 2025. **(January 2025 )** > But seeing how we've already had a really nice pre-alt season rally in 2024, **I think alt season could kick off early.** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1hxr73a/daily_crypto_discussion_january_10_2025_gmt0/m6bhx9w/ > The fact that **Bitcoin maxis are pushing this narrative** so hard, and are becoming so confident **that alt coins are dead and won't rise, is a signal that I should probably start loading up on alts instead of waiting for a bigger dip.** **(February 2025)** > You can literally see in the chart that alt coins have always lagged behind. So it hasn't done anything much different so far. > In every bullmarket Bitcoin pumps first, and alt season comes later. It's nothing new. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0/mboo654/

StopRunningBiatch

I am stacking ETH,XRP,SOL,ADA,LINK,XLM like crazyyy ! Pls sell moree I want more Fear in the Market...

Everest2017

This crash itself is not insane. Insane is that shitcoins (XRP, ADA, DOGE, Zcash, etc) still have valuations in tens of billions of USD. For example, XRP still has almost 80B (!) market cap. It is insane. Market still has to correct this.

Odd_Pen_1041

Lol, what? If you think BTC is vulnerable whats gonna happen with all the alts (except ADA 😎)?

biba8163

All the people who bought undervalued Alts in the 2022 bear market are rich now /s > Polkadot (DOT) is incredibly undervalued. (DOT $24) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/rzx79w/polkadot_dot_is_incredibly_undervalued_tomorrow/ > Cardano's at its most undervalued price in almost 2 years, data shows (ADA $1.15) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/sp2rch/cardanos_at_its_most_undervalued_price_in_almost/ > MATIC is the most undervalued project considering it’s performance (MATIC/POL $1.15) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pyttnp/matic_is_the_most_undervalued_project_considering/

oopssomething

What about ADA? Also keeps on printing and doesnt do well during bull

Decentralization-God

ADA, NIGHT, PYTH, (LINK) Dont ask me why, you need to be able to see through the fog, to understand

Sea-Environment-5938

From a markets perspective, ADA’s underperformance isn’t that surprising. Liquidity, stablecoin depth, and active users tend to concentrate where capital efficiency is highest. ETH L2s, Solana, and Avalanche captured real USDC liquidity early, which matters a lot for trading, DeFi, and onboarding new users. Cardano’s ecosystem growth has been slower, and that shows up clearly in TVL, volumes, and dApp usage metrics. Tech philosophy aside, markets tend to reward traction first and research later.

graytleapforward

ADA never adopted USDC or USDT when it mattered. Unfortunately that ship has sailed.

oopssomething

ADA just broke $0.3 just like Nov '23 and we all know what happened next

FederalOrder2822

Hbar, AMP, ADA, ETH.

biba8163

> **Would you rather hold 1 BTC or 10 ETH and why? (From 2018)** > - 10 ETH. ETH is more usable than BTC. I'm not a fan of BTC after the "store of value" ridiculousness. > - ETH definitely. BTC only holds the value it does because of exchanges, and some sites which don't offer alternatives (very few nowadays), the digital gold argument is stupid > - **ETH it's cheaper so more potential profit.** > - **If you think BTC is more likely to reach 40,000 than ETH reaching 2,600 you're lying to yourself** > - 10 ETH. It is faster, cheaper and supports DAP's. It will also eventually switch off mining which I feel will be a step forward for crypto. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/83olas/would_you_rather_hold_1_btc_or_10_eth_and_why/ > **Hypothetical: 1 BTC or 20 ETH? (From 2021)** > - **20 eth is worth 74k or so 1 btc is worth 50k or so.** > - 20 ETH. The **potential for growth is higher for ETH**, in my opinion. > - I don’t see how 20 ETH wouldn’t be the better option. > - I see BTC bouncing down off 59k like a lost tennis ball. ETH will hit 5k no problem very soon > - Easy, **20 ETH** for me. One pays you for holding it and is **growing a hell of a lot faster.** > - 32000 **ADA** (currently worth $9K) > - 350k **VET** (currently worth $3K) > - 43215 **Matic** (currently worth $5K) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/nd6yvs/hypothetical_1_btc_or_20_eth/ **Alt Coin Mirage of Outperformance** Alts can outperform BTC: - When they are tiny/small marketcaps and are gaining prominence - When they dump to kingdom come and are lucky enough to recover Rookie Mistake: - Thinking Alts are cheap and will have more growth - Thinking that Alt that outperformed when it was a small cap will continue to outperform - Thinking your Alt is going to recover Veteran Mistake: - Losing sight of the Alt/BTC ratio and believing your Alt is doing well because it pumps more than BTC after dumping to kingdom come but bleeds to death against BTC long term - Thinking tech and partnerships matter for price appreciation when the only thing that matters is BTC going on a bullrun with every Alt depending on BTC profits for appreciation

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GrailThe

After a lot of research, (I will be pummeled here because its unpopular) I believe Hedera is destined to be one of the winners, for a variety of reasons. It is not a blockchain, it uses a DAG hashgraph architecture that avoids many of the problems of blockchains (congestion, variable gas fees, front running, high energy use) . It has security (ABFT), proven velocity(10K TPS), speed (<3 sec finality), fixed, low cost (.0001 / transaction), proven scale (71B completed transactions (no including voting as SOL claims), very low energy usage (\~0.000017 kWh per transaction), it is EVM compatible to connect with ETH DeFi, ISO 20022 certified for financial use cases including RWA tokenization, a governing council of 39 global enterprises including Google, Boeing, Dell, Mondelez, LG, IBM, etc.). Hedera has never really played the press release pump game of other cryptos and it is not well known or liked in the retail crypto gambling space. Its current market cap is a tiny fraction of SOL or ADA. In my opinion, it's the "AMZN" of the crypto world in 10 years.

jawni

>ADA Community is not on Reddit. Well I don't know who else would be commenting in /r/cardano if not the ADA community, especially since this thread is making it pretty obvious that any people with negative opinions are being banned. >It's somewhere between X and GitHub. lol thanks for the laugh. Relatively speaking the Cardano community on X is large compared to here, but that's only because X in general has a much larger crypto community then reddit. Relative to other altcoins, Cardano is easily one of the biggest alt communities here, or at least it's been that way from 2017 to recently. I've noticed it drop off a bit in the last year or so, but it's pretty obvious that there is a pro-Cardano bias in this sub compared to other alts. It's the only altcoin that ever has posts about minor protocol upgrades or really just any largely inconsequential shit that still gets upvoted. Any other alt coin, even with major news, will rarely get upvoted and rarely have positive comments. If you're ranking the bias of altcoins from positive to negative in this sub it goes: ETH, then ADA, then a big gap, then ALGO/DOT, then ICP/HBAR, and then you have a massive gap and it's SOL being mostly hated, then another massive gap and it's the purely hated projects like BSC, XRP, TRX, etc.

NoAverage9216

Something about ADA, every time I buy it it pumps hard and every time I have to sell it everything goes down

donjoe0

Gotta stay on top of the narratives game and jump ship the second you smell fear from your existing alts. Got wrecked myself by ADA, DOT, ATOM, RENDER, TIA, IMS and INJ in 2024, I wanna say I've "learned my lesson" but I'm prolly gonna make the same mistake again. Now I'm seeing freshness in Canton (somewhat) and in the new stablecoin settlement layers hoping for institutional adoption, i.e. Tether's STABLE (already launched) and Circle's ARC (no mainnet yet, hope I can catch an explosive move when it launches) and Stripe's TEMPO (also no mainnet yet, same hope, watching for news like a hawk).

Buydipstothemoon

ADA Community is not on Reddit. It's somewhere between X and GitHub.

jawni

I would care if I was an ADA holder, as it's a bad look for the community.

Wadafak19

ADA is light years away from its 2021 ATH. It’s a fact. Everything else is speculation. That’s why I’m out.

ADHD-Developer

I see no other road for ADA than total failure unfortunately.. just like polkadot, both are great projects. Problem is real world doesn’t care because its not bringing any benefit to capitalists. They are committed to centralizing ETH and BTC through accumulation the biggest size they can.. whats next ? If you control 10 - 20 % of an asset its already over

No-Contribution9918

You're not wrong, but it is also unsurprising. Mob mentality is a Reddit-wise. Cardano already has bridged USDC, and it did nothing for them. ADA and DOGE where the only two coins in the top ten to not reach a ATH in terms of price or market cap.

Anxious_Noise_8805

Hype is going to flip ADA soon

Full-Sound-6269

Ada went from 0.25 to 1.26 in 2024. Sure, it's not 10x like Solana had, but still it's not that dead. I think next run, if it happens, ADA will be way less active because it didn't do as good as people expected it to do. At the same time, when btc drops to sub 40k ADA will be near 10 cents, possibly a good opportunity.

kingjoeg

You're not allowed to talk about other cryptocurriences on specific crypto subreddits. One reason for this is because if it was allowed people would come to the ADA subreddit and spam it with mentions of their coin.

AlternativeTiger4302

There's usually three "buckets" fire alt drops from tippity top to bottom: The best: only drop ~75-85% The middle of the pack: drop 90-93% Extreme scenarios: drop 97%+ (and some recover to set new highs next cycle like ADA did from 17/18 cycle to 21/22 cycle). I highly doubt BTC goes that low though. That's the *obvious* spot on a chart. Last cycle everyone thought $10k-$12k and it ended up being $~15.5k. This bear everyone will think mid-30's and it'll end up being 45-50k watch.

XRP_SPARTAN

Yep ADA 2021 it is 💀

Independent_Term5790

Most of these coins like ADA that do absolutely nothing are still worth billions. There is so so much more pain coming in the future

TimeForGrass

'to win the market you must hold majorly btc' That's been a bit true over the past couple years but in general it's not. I bought ADA last bull run and some associated smaller cap coins and did pretty well, 5-6x return. 

nafnaf0

Yes, sadly I think this what caused most of pump up. I had around 20k ADA and sold it all at around a 15% loss in December 2024, when it had one last little rally. It is not a asset for speculation. You can stake and make decent rewards, but the rewards got much smaller. Basically it just long term generally goes down in value.

GreenStretch

Top 10 doesn't mean very much in crypto. It changes a lot. Peak this cycle [https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20251005/](https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20251005/) Peak 2021 cycle [https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20211114/](https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20211114/) Peak 2017-8 cycle [https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180114/](https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180114/) So which coins, excluding stablecoins, are in all three BTC, ETH, XRP, ADA BTC is the only one with a big increase in fiat price. ETH was slightly above its 2021 peak in this cycles ATH. XRP was also up, but was way down in 2021 with the SEC case. ADA didn't match its 2021 peak. SOL and BNB were in the last two cycles, but SOL didn't get anywhere close to the optimistic predictions expecting it to match ETH's growth between 2017 and 2021. BNB did well. DOGE and TRON were sort of odd shots with DOGE roaring in 2021 and TRON reaching its ATH this cycle. The other thing is its possible to buy former top 10 coins when they're massively depressed in the bear market and hope to take profits, even if they don't reach previous ATHs.

watch-nerd

You're drinking the kool aid. Big Ethereum L2s like Arbitrum have way more usage than ADA.

whisperedstate

Incredibly low chance with BTC or ETH. There's like a very slim possibility that ETH goes to 10k, and even slimmer possibility that BTC goes to 250k, and that's still not even close to 10x. So now you need to go down the list. Very unlikely any of the top 10 does a 10x (like SOL going from 60B to 600B, very unlikely). You're essentially looking for a 10B mcap to turn into 100B mcap, or 1B into 10B. The only 10B coin in the top 15 is ADA, but that is dogshit and basically 0% chance it does 10x. So the next choice is Canton CC. This is a network created by banks, and they'll be using it as a private network. But it also has a public facing side. Many won't distintuish between priate Canton and public Canton, so once toknenization gets into full swing later this year, CC is going to find itself as an new L1 with a hot narrative behind it. So that's where my money would go if you forced me to invest 300k looking to hit 3M in 2 years.

oopssomething

U/Technical-activity95 just want to let you know ADA is under $0.3 you must be buying like crazy now!

DryMyBottom

ADA I dead, like the 99% of the coins out there, it's just people find it hard to accept

balaena7

I don't get the ADA hate at all... it seems Cardano is the only project with real use cases while keeping the crypto spirit: store of value (finite supply), focus on decentralization (unlike SOL), identity management, supply chain management, focus on integration into corporate structure, and a visionary CEO... seems like a very solid tech startup to me... best pick after BTC and ETH, imo

rytoke

ADA

noviwu97

Some people never learn... how many of the "real & amazing tech" L1 from 2021 is practically a zombie now? People used to say the exact same thing to DOT, ATOM, XTZ, ADA, CRO, NEAR, FTM, ONE, etc

PirateSKB

lol why did you choose ADA?

luxtris

Oof. Felt that regarding ADA. What a shame that was. Lost a prettyyyyy penny

Schrezberatina

Don't hurt me like that. If I wish hard enough, the thousands I lost on DOT & XTZ & IOTA & ADA will come back.

Routine-Tomato-6896

If it’s acting like ADA 2021, then yeah… enjoy the long slow bleed

Bkokane

LINK/ADA/ONDO/VET, just buy whatever’s been beat down the hardest. Even shitters like DOT will probably go back to $10 (6x from here) fairly quickly if BTC recovers above $125k

Hidden5G

Calling it “Ripple’s XRP” already breaks the argument. Ripple does not own XRP, control the XRPL, or set its monetary policy. XRP is a neutral asset on an open ledger. If the premise is wrong…the conclusion collapses with it. Second…XRP has not had price discovery. Not even close. For years it was legally sidelined in the largest capital market on earth. US exchanges delisted it, funds were barred, institutions couldn’t touch it. Assets do not discover price when major participants are legally excluded. Third…XRP is still not formally labeled a commodity in statute. A court ruling limiting one regulator’s reach is not the same thing as full regulatory classification. Institutions don’t allocate on “good enough.” They allocate when the asset has clear legal treatment, balance sheet clarity, custody rules, and compliance certainty. That switch has not been flipped yet. Comparing XRP’s structure to Cardano’s 2021 top is lazy chart astrology. ADA topped in a fully open, retail driven market. XRP consolidated under artificial legal constraint. Similar shapes…completely different causes. Yes, markets can dump. That’s macro liquidity, not proof that XRP’s thesis failed. And “good news marks tops” only applies when the market is already allowed to price that news. XRP wasn’t. If your analysis starts by mislabeling the asset, ignores regulatory suppression, ignores lack of price discovery, and ignores the absence of formal commodity classification, then the conclusion isn’t bearish. It’s just uninformed. Finally…saying you sold most of your position doesn’t strengthen the analysis. It explains the motivation. This reads like post hoc justification of a trade decision, not evidence that XRP’s role, design, or trajectory has failed.

MakCapital

And in next bull XRP will grossly underperform with small pumps and a lot of sideways as it continues to bleed against other majors. Just like ADA last 4 years. Then another bear hits and it makes new shockingly lower yearly lows. The SEC trade is longggg over. Everyone that didn't realize they were in a meme pump will hold back to negative. Long term holders of an asset trying to be a currency that no one will ever use as currency, and a network no one trades on will only go down long term.

Decentralization-God

There are two main options: 1) Either ADA is dead chain, ghost chain and joke 2) Or whole crypto market is joke … unable to value real projects objectively, a compromised market where memecoin shit has higher MC than scientifically developed platform If I compare Cardano in 2021 and now, then I clearly see option 2 is 99% correct 🤔 I HODL and trade with accumulate/improve avg price goals. Either bitter end … or Victory!

Educational-Row-4262

How about you. Did you stake some? I stake some ADA already

Veronica_JW

Who would've thought ADA is even more stable than some other stablecoins

Cautious_You7796

On the 5 year chart I think Bitcoin looks okay, not great. But some of these Alts like Link and ADA really do not look good at all.

No-Contribution9918

"More promising"? So you think Cardano and Dogecoin are promising? In what way? If you mean price, both ADA and Dogecoin are the only coins in the top 10 (on CMC) that neither surpassed their ATH in terms of price and/or market cap. If you mean as chains, Cardano is over-hyped and under-delivered chain, whereas Dogecoin is a literal joke.

Neat-Shower7655

Didnt realize ADA is a stable coin 🤔

Icy_Arm5616

Good ol’ ADA sitting pretty at .35 in all three

SN8KE_FARM

Bitcoin, like 2% - crypto ~15% mostly holding ADA

biba8163

Normies are people who don't have interest or believe in crypto but who jump into crypto during bullrun hype cycles. There was a massive influx of them in the 2017 and especially the 2021 cycle when people who weren't normally investing were jumping into crypto and even meme stocks like GME. In August-September 2024, I kept on posting that this cycle was completely different and that most Alts are completely fucked now because of macro conditions and institutional driven BTC rise. In January 2025 I posted that there would be no Alt Season in 2025. Crypto Influencers and Bagholders are slow and stupid so it looks like it has taken a year plus for them to come to grasp with reality. > Reddit Crypto and Bitcoin subs are detached from all reality. People are struggling due to the high cost of everything because of inflation only made higher by the high interest rate environment. We are in a much different environment that the 2017 bullrun and the 2021 bullrun. And despite what people here say, even big cuts in interest rates does not mean we are going back to near zero interest rates next year. Bitcoin is now a huge market that is harder to move going against economic headwinds -- if Bitcoin goes on a big bullrun next year, it'll be fucking impressive. **(August. 2024)** > - 2017 Bullrun: Fed Funds rate in was between 1-1.5% > - 2021 Bullrun: Fed Funds rate was between 0.05-0.10% > - 2024: Fed Funds rate sits at 5.5% > - 2025: Fed Fund Futures is predicting 2 percentage rate cuts by next July leaving it 3.25% to 3.5% > - Credit Card delinquency rate at the hugest since 2011 > - Credit Card debt at record high of $1.3 trillion > - 1 in 3 people said they will have more credit card debt by the end of 2024 > - Average credit card interest rate is currently 22.76% > - Average family in 2024 must pay 38% of income on mortgage to purchase a house > - Low-income families would have to spend 77% on mortgage to purchase a house > I only have anecdotal evidence of of how much of the money comes from low income retail. But during the last bull run, it seemed like every regular Joe who had a smart phone was trying to make money on crypto and meme stocks like GME. > My girlfriend's mom who is a waitress got a note from someone who left her a tip saying invest in these two "XRP and DOGE" and she wanted me to put in money for her. Christmas in 2021 I am with my girlfriend's family who have NEVER invested in anything and they're talking about the best shitcoins. That stuff was all over TikTok. > My plumber went all in on GME, COIN, SQ, BTC, ADA. I saw him again in 2023 and he now says his only investment is his house. I really think this retail FOMO did have an effect on the market. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1essrtn/seeing_engagement_here_sentiment_is_lower_than_in/li8cj8m/ > That is **my prediction range $100K to $120K IF we do real well.** But BTC going 2X from here is not going to give you 5X, 10X, 50X on all these Alts that people are holding at major losses and need those type of numbers to just break even.... **Most Alts are absolutely fucked now. (September 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1f98l4j/daily_crypto_discussion_september_5_2024_gmt0/llnadcz/ > A lot of people are holding heavy Alt bags **rationalizing a huge Altseason is coming** this year. Your Alt echo chambers are telling you, it's 100% happening. **There is zero percentage chance of that happening** without another big BTC leg up so it would be wise to temper your expectations. **(January 1st 2025)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1hr1bgb/btc_returns_2010_2024/m4uaz4g/

NatBitty

Ok what’s the best way to short Doge, ADA, XRP, ETH, things of that nature long-term?

Impressive_Pilot8415

From all my tokens, it is only ADA which I am down >-70%. ADA is not the Future unfortuantely. Would love to be wrong!

Uncle_Rico_Was_Frat

It really just boils down to the fact that adoption hasn’t occurred and there is no incentive for further adoption, the latter of which can be split into not enough incentive for (1) retail with accessible high yields and high liquidity/volume products and (2) corporates because there is not a VC funnel supporting ideation and product generation on the chain. As much as many hate that SOL is the “VC chain”, it drives a lot of activity and builders onto the chain, similar to what we’ve seen with Base in the last couple years. Unless something drastic happens—and I mean so drastic that no one is capable of predicting it like JP Morgan saying they’re going to rely on ADA alone for their blockchain exploration—ADA will continue to fade into obscurity.

blueb_oy

Care to explain your take on the longevity or long-term investment of ADA?

Godrayoae123

If you selling anything from those bags keep BTC and sell the rest. Personally I would keep Solana as well. Definitely get rid of XRP and ADA until they actually build something great that people use.

NatBitty

Better hope it’s a cycle, because for everything other than bitcoin it sure looks like a long term downtrend. I mean honestly though bitcoin has “store of value” / currency debasement for its potential long term case, but what is the long term case for ETH, XRP, ADA, Doge, etc? Like cmon at some point they absolutely will not exist, just a matter of when.

iamjide91

Don't hop on memes. Focus on LINK, ADA, AIOZ, SOL, RNDR for the most part. Play with the tech as much as possible, it gives you a better view of the project.

Plenty_Dog_5684

Swap all your SOL ADA and XRP for BTC and maintain a solely BTC and ETH balance. Everything in crypto besides monero and stablecoins follow bitcoin anyway

biba8163

> zoom out - 99% of crypto is down big from 4 years ago - 99.9% of crypto is down even bigger from 8 years ago Even most of the top 10 from 8 years ago are sitting at massive losses. **Top 10 from 8 Years Ago (Jan. 1, 2018)** Crypto | Price Change | |:--------|--------------:| | BTC | ⬆️ +552.81% | | ETH | ⬆️ +283.19% | | XRP | 🔻 -20.56% | | BCH | 🔻 -75.54% | ADA | 🔻 -51.00% | | LTC | 🔻 -70.14% | | IOTA | 🔻 -97.71% | | NEM | 🔻 -99.93% | | XLM | 🔻 -66.73% | | DASH | 🔻 -93.39% | https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180101/

Uncle_Rico_Was_Frat

Give up on ADA. It’s not happening and any hope left is sunken cost fallacy. I am an XRP hater as it serves no useful purpose post-adoption on stablecoins but I know the XRP Army will screech that I don’t understand it (I work in industry).

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Holiday_Return_4112

that fucking ada bull will be posting a video later for sure titled "big things coming for ADA"

Mad_Zion

lol my ADA earns 0.61% daily staking on Mevolaxy while I nap 😎

ChripToh_KarenSy

ADA isn't accepted though since it's not on the list, but will check TRX as someone also suggested it earlier. Appreciate the suggestion.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The Cardano Foundation has delegated 220 million ADA, worth $77 million, to 11 selected Delegated Representatives (DReps) to enhance community involvement in governance and promote resilience and diversity. This initiative aims to decentralize power, reduce centralization risks, and empower community members in governance decisions. The delegated tokens grant voting power to trusted representatives while remaining under the Foundation's control. This builds on a previous delegation program and aligns with Cardano's goal of strengthening its ecosystem without relying on venture capital. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

ginnipix

• 50% BTC 20% ETH 20%SOL 10% ADA • Been using KuCoin and I don't mind putting it on a hot wallet • Gas and NFTs cost me • I'll avoid FOMO

Despaciito

Btc dropped another 2k and ADA didnt move? Impressive

ADHD-Developer

Hoskinson actually believes in decentralization. He knows governments will always try to screw people one way or another, and he’s been saying it for years. That’s a huge reason why I’m into Cardano. ADA is basically Bitcoin with smart contracts. Truly decentralized. No one owns it. That’s the whole point.

stfudog

ADA

nastimoto

ADA is decent? 🧐

morning_mushroom

I was sold the crypto story in 2018... Was watching podcasts and all... So now is 2026, I don't see any real utility here beside maybe stablecoins if you want to transfer cash to someone. This is or was nice story, but now it is obvious crypto hasnt toppled the banking system amd will only be used for the USA to get rid of its 13 trillion debt to a degree, like they did with gold... So maybe just keep BTC positions, all else is relatively useless. Presonally I closed all my position this year, except stupid ADA as Daedalus was so damn slow. Good luck anyway :)

rootpl

Yeah, I'm waiting until $0.10 before I buy more ADA. And probably until $4'ish for LINK. This ain't over yet.

RastaBooties

And taking into consideration the "peak" for most alts this cycle was \~50% lower than their 2021 peak, why do you think the "bottom" won't break below the 2022 bottom? Why won't ADA drop under $0.20? Ethereum didn't even make a new ATH this cycle (in Euro), 2021 Eth 4,150 EUR 2025 Eth 4,100 EUR And if we adjust for inflation Eth top this cycle would be equal to Eth at \~3,400 EUR in 2021 or some shit, so the top for Eth this cycle was in fact 15-20% lower than 2021.

nugymmer

Link of course. I don't know much about ADA. I never really took much of an interest because it didn't offer anything radically different to what Ethereum offered.

AgentAiLeader

I stopped trading based on 'reversal sentiment' and started looking at the Developer Mindshare. ADA and LINK are two very different beasts under the hood. LINK is basically the industry standard for oracles, it’s the plumbing of DeFi. ADA has a dedicated community but a much slower dApp ecosystem growth. If you’re 'backing up the truck,' ask yourself: if the price stays sideways for another 12 months, which of these projects will still have thousands of active devs building on them? I’d rather bet on the infra that everyone else has to use to build their own apps.

nosimsol

Why do you consider ADA?

staywoakes1

no? XRP is doing well. ADA is not

MinimalGravitas

> Sustainable... How did that work out for something like ADA hardly uses electricity but got destroyed What does electricity have to do with anything? I am confused?! > But im excited if the supply becomes deflationary but at what rate? I gave you a link to the blob simulator above. You can get to a deflationary burn by increasing the number of rollups or the average throughput of each transaction... or more likely a mix of both. And the point at which the overall effect makes ETH deflationary depends on the 'blob target' at the time... so I can't give you a specific 'rate', there are a large set of combinations of values for each variable that will result in deflationary ETH. Just go play with it!