ADA

MushrooGuy

Dave from ADA on X is hilarious to watch for the occasional meltdown as well

DrCrazyCurious

I've said this about a lot of other crypto techs too: **Hype damages more than it helps**. What we're seeing for the first time in many years is the actual value of many crypto projects. If the pandemic-era flood of cash and the tweet news cycle hype machine had never influenced the crypto world, we'd see all these coins like ADA and many others at the price of their actual usage, their actual adoption, and their actual fundamental value. Instead, we saw coin after coin pump like crazy because of hype from the influx of cash. Suddenly, 50%, 80%, heck maybe 90+% of the coin's price was due to hype and expectation. *(For many meme coins the price is 100% hype and 0% actual value.)* The underlying value didn't change. Only our expectations. *("TO THA MOOOOON!" etc. is behind us.)* Now that the price has come back down to represent the actual price that they're worth, the dust starts to settle and we see the reality: A bunch of developers chipping away at solving problems. It's not glamorous. It's not fast. It won't churn the hype machine. But it'll develop (pun intended) the price the underlying asset actually deserves. Maybe it'll stay at its current price forever. Maybe development will slow/stop and it'll fall further accordingly (not crash due to FUD but decline due to decreased value). Maybe new adoption and solutions will see the price trend upwards again. But I think we finally found the actual value of Cardano. Now the question is whether it'll go up or down from here. And no one knows that for sure.

buy_bitcoin_orwhatev

I was in the Cardano scene for years. It’s dead. There are MAYBE 3k total users of Cardano- not counting buying/holding ADA.

LivingShine83

ADA? …… 😬

MinimalGravitas

> Hedera is the new Cardano * Fake hype built around misleading announcements - Check; * Presenting out-of-context stats to trick low information retail investors - Check; * Low single digit TPS - Check. You might be onto something! The only real difference is that ADA is still trading above it's launch price, whereas HBAR is down so much that it's even below the price paid by pre-launch SAFT 3 investors!

unknowngloomth

And it is still extremely down from its ATHs. Guess people don't care what ADA been building?

cyger

Problem is it has no usage. Solana has already built all those things and is eating Eths lunch. ADA is not part of the conversation anymore.

Novel-Common-3547

Talking about future, we have to take into account a possibility of crypto space being more and more (if not fully) integrated into current financial systems. With that in mind, big financial institutions would probably go with ISO compliant cryptos. Those are mainly XRP, ADA, XLM, MIOTA, ALGO, HBAR, XDC and QNT. Will BTC be around? Well, probably yes. Being the biggest now, being considered a store of value “like gold”, it will probably be with us for many many many years. Big players like ETH and SOL have big and great communities behind them. But, I am honestly not sure if that is enough, if cryptos become integrated. I think they would, if not being ISO compliant, lose its value. Interesting, tho very speculative, is Worldcoin. Sam Altman being one of the creators and Peter Thiel being one of the primary financial backers, who knows what can happen.

Beginning_Pop_4637

Without a doubt, Yes, It’s a good time….. Market leaders only, Bitcoin, Etherium, HBAR, AAVE, ADA, Solana, XLM.   Those are some great ones, there are others.   

Tramp876

Are you a Crypto Hulk viewer or member? I have most of these and I watch the podcast. I also have ADA, Veechain and SHIBA that are all down considerably. I am holding as well. Good Luck!!

Hitachi22

ADA is back from the dead. 

Sebanimation

Good to see some green on ADA, it‘s been a while!

Andrewshwap

I think it’s life or death for ADA and other alt counts. Can I see it surviving? I can if they complete their timelines. If AI bubble is real, I can see it completely decimating

Leynnox

Everything is green, I mean, even ADA is up 11% today lol

CryptoAnarchyst

I think you’ll have 2 chains left, maybe 3 and all of them will have to natively interact with BTC and each other. ADA is trying but it’s too late for it. And you’ll probably have banks take over most of the trading, or existing traditional exchanges. The model we have right now is unsustainable

ADHD-Developer

Not ADA

AsbestosDude

ADA "died the last two cycles" Its more like dormant

Efficient_Ice_1001

The question isn't who is selling, the question is who is buying when crypto returns look like this and a safe boring boomer S&P 500 index is returning 164% from early 2018 and 65% from late 2021? LTC is -18 from December 2013 XRP is -55% from December 2017 ADA is -80% from December 2017 ZEC is -45% from January 2018 XMR is -20% from January 2018 ETH is -18% from January 2018 when accounting for inflation LINK is -60% from 2020 SOL is -70% from 2021 price BNB is -20% from 2021 price Even BTC is -13% from 2021 high

Mirved

Ya just like ADA, NEO, TRON, HBAR etc. And they all end up the same.

Latter_Present1900

Yes. Come the next bull market there will be dozen or so new projects diluting the market, jostling for a Top 10 spot. ADA will never regain that position.

MotanulScotishFold

Look back, in October 2023. Is ADA dead? The same question was then

Orson_G

ADA looks sound on paper, unfortunately not translating into solid adoption

unknowngloomth

Not only ADA.. pretty much everything else is dead at the moment. Except hyperliquid

0fWhomIAmChief

ADA has always been trash

kingjoeg

It is dead. There's been no technical progress and no good projects, just errors exploited and Charles Hoskinson quiting Twitter/ X. I wouldn't touch ADA with a 10 foot pole. It will slowly go down the top 100, and eventually fall out of it over the next 5-10 years.

Prize_Chapter_5113

I can relate. I put about $20k into ADA because I believed in the long-term thesis. Years later, it’s been one of my worst-performing investments. It’s a reminder that a good story doesn’t always translate into good returns.

Educational_Cable405

The staking percentage is doing a lot of unearned work whenever ADA comes up. People wave the big staked number around like it's a supply sink, but Cardano staking has no lockup and no slashing, your coins sit in your own wallet the whole time and you can sell mid epoch and still collect the rewards. So it props up the price exactly zero on the way down, that whole 'staked' supply is fully liquid the second anyone wants out.

One_Design5834

ADA

djmc0211

Back in 2021 I listened to all the hype and dropped 50k into ADA. Biggest waste of money...

AccomplishedMany9277

ADA is a useful case study in the gap between technical credibility and market execution. Cardano had genuine academic rigor behind it — peer-reviewed research, formal verification, Haskell — but shipped features years behind schedule while competitors moved faster with less rigorous but working code. The market punished the timeline gap more than the technology quality. The lesson isn't that rigor is bad, it's that in crypto, shipping late is its own kind of failure regardless of why. Projects that move slower than the narrative cycle lose mindshare permanently even if the tech eventually delivers.

Mysterious-Unit-5330

might be the worst and most useless ai slop post of all time and no im not a ADA holder

MidgarDreaming

I think the guy who lost all his money and is spamming his tears around ADA is the mad one tbh

warriorlynx

Once the gov wanted nothing to do with ADA early last year it was the beginning of the end, and the end came with Charles video a few weeks ago lol

celmate

I bought ADA at like 25c and sold around two dollars. Could have made more, could have made a whole lot less. Holding crypto through bear markets has always been dumb af, especially for alts. Like 99% of the people who bang on about these "cycles" never fucking profit from them. I haven't invested in any crypto since then because the global economy has been fucked and any pumps have been so meager. I yolo into crypto when the stupid money is pouring in and everything is number go up lol, until I see one of those hyper bear markets again I'm just not that interested.

Longjumping-Bonus723

Well. Been studying this for 5 years. I saw so much hive mind I already know what they will say but I prefer listening to what FedEx for example is doing not what a small boy in reddit that is holding a ADA bag is claiming

Longjumping-Bonus723

I said this 4 years ago and I still say it: ADA is a 1st. generation Blockchain. Its very old and ineffiecient. The technological aspects (finality time, security, scalability, fees etc.) are terrible. It was only that worthy because it was around during the big altcoin season. Its like a CD-ROM. Forget about it. We already have 4th generation DAG-DLT infrastructure (Hedera for example) that is way more advanced... fact.

Leading_Wafer9552

Your low effort braindead AI post can get a low effort AI response: ***"ADA is dead money" because it's down from its all-time high? Welcome to crypto.*** ***Most altcoins are still down 80–95% from their 2021 peaks. Many didn't even come close to reclaiming their previous highs this cycle. That's not an ADA-specific phenomenon—it's the reality of the broader altcoin market.*** ***You write as if ADA uniquely failed, but where's the comparison? If you're going to call it one of the worst long-term investments, show how it stacks up against the rest of the alt market instead of pretending it's the only chart that looks ugly.*** ***And pointing to a bear market chart like it's some devastating revelation isn't analysis. During bear markets, almost everything looks terrible. That's literally what bear markets do.*** ***The claim that ADA is uniquely "dead money" falls apart the moment you zoom out and look at the rest of the altcoin market. If there was no broad alt season for most projects, singling out ADA is more narrative than evidence.*** See, now we can just have AI respond to AI and none of us have to think for ourselves or converse with each other, but we'll pretend like we are for fake meaningless internet points called "karma"

giodude556

Everything went to shit. Not just ADA...

Boniouk84

Posting about dead coins in the bear bottom of the largest recent history risk off runs is just pointless. Vent somewhere else. No crying in the casino. In fact, i’ll go buy some ADA now. It’ll be fine.

Kaiisim

About 5 years ago I bought $200 of ADA and $200 of Nvidia. Nvidia is like 2000% profit. Ada is like 100... The more I have read since then, the more I realise these were all proofs of concept. Blockchain is 100% the technology we will use in the future instead of banks. But it's likely to be proprietary coins created by governments or banks :(

Chill_Knight

ADA always felt like it was a couple consistent falls away from completely capsizing.

Ubique008

If its not Bitcoin there will always be something better next cycle I was an ADA maxxi 2017 and 2021. But now I realize, eventually, all BTC maxxis are right All the so called "bluechips" from 2017 that made all time highs in 2021 are now rekt

Dedsnotdead

Really think you are reaching when you say Solana is the Apple of Crypto. I’d agree with your post about ADA though.

NoAverage9216

“This is what bagholders still don’t want to hear: surviving is not the same as performing.” I will bet all my ADA and my balls that Chatgpt wrote that

KeyPerformance2810

Ada is capped though, so why are you fudding? Lets stick to truth, theres enough shit to throw at ADA without having to make shit up.

Baka_Jaba

Sold my ADA bags to ALGO back then. Everyone's bagholding.

kingjoeg

ADA is dead and will just slowly drop further down the top 100 over time

Tim-Rocket

Who would want the global financial system running on bitcoin? Not bitcoiners, that's for sure. If you're curious, "smart contract" platforms (such as ETH, BNB, SOL, TRX, ADA, etc...) could (And are starting to) handle that.

hazi1008

i have never felt so had. fucking ADA to 100 dollars in EXODUS and i don’t have enough to pay the ‘fees’ to move it. evil genius fuckers all.

Pauliuss

Avax,, LTC, SOL, LINK, DOT, ADA and ATOm

coindigest

The part that doesn't add up: SecondFi says the $18.5M (129M ADA) was an "emergency rescue measure" routed to a third-party custodian, but Hoskinson is now relaying that Emurgo claims they don't even know who the white hat is. You can't both have deliberately triggered a rescue AND not know who's holding the funds. One of those is wrong, and that's exactly why people are uneasy and some are calling for an investigation. Worth remembering what actually broke: this wasn't a smart contract bug or the Cardano base layer, it was a flaw in SecondFi's (formerly Yoroi) wallet-generation software. Think of a locksmith whose key-cutting machine was quietly stamping out duplicate keys, every wallet made through it is suspect no matter how carefully you stored your seed. That's why "just move your funds" is messier than it sounds, and why the early official advice was to NOT restore that seed into a fresh wallet. For anyone actually affected: SlowMist (Cos) puts the real exposure north of $20M across \~178 wallets, and scammers are already impersonating SecondFi "support" with fake recovery tools. Stick to official SecondFi channels only and never paste your seed into any "recovery" anything. That second wave is what cleans people out after a hack like this.

Timely-Fig2030

All the main blockchains be good picks: SUI, ICP, Algo, VET, XLM, ETH, ADA, etc. Opened yesterday a post on CryptoCurrencies about it: 4.3k views, 0 likes These idiots still think blockchains are dead and want to gamble memecoins. Little do they know, that there are no memecoins without blockchains. The space has become so dumb and uneuphoric that now might be the best time to enter goat blockchains. Btw, fuck memecoins!

CALINXD94

my 40k$ ADA now worth 8k$

Mr_Stimmers

Yeah, the majority of that I’m only holding for tax loss harvesting. I have faith the ETH, SOL, and LINK will recover, and hopefully the ADA (looking very doubtful at the moment). The rest are dead to me.

SeriousGains

ADA, VET, ICP, SUI have already been flushed.

TripTryad

End of an era, I vividly remember getting into ADA and BNB token late 2017. Became the base of what I built. Were my biggest winners. ADA was 2 cents and BNB had just crashed to like .80 cents shortly after Binance launched and put the other exchanges to shame. Good times.

SeriousGains

Every coin loved by this sub has failed (ADA, LINK, LTC, DOT). Why should ETH be any different?

graytleapforward

ADA biggest issue was never onboarding a meaningful stable coin. They killed liquidity.

verified_canadian

IBIT will eventually come back, just keep holding. ADA you're probably fucked.

mrjune2040

Your title is about BTC but your examples are fucking ADA and POL lol. Not the same thing.

Backieotamy

No, not at all. But my answer to his question is factually correct. The only thing I am starting to lean into is that bear/bull four year cycles are starting to get shorter and some alts are decoupling from BTC. I have been accumulating ETH, SOL, XRP, hbar, DOGE (dont judge me), and ADA which I finally sold because it is not following that pattern at all and every low and every high for the last 8 years have only declined so I removed it. The only given is BTC and even thats still questionable on its ability to not start a global financial meltdown at this point in investment capital. Some ath still haven't reached the 2021 levels which that bear run took a lot of wind out of the crypto sails and has continued to keep a lot of $$ out of it however that retail investor drop is finally being replaced with commercial capital and a lot of it. But there is no guarantee other than rich people will get richer regardless of market performance, a lot of us normal folks will lose a lot of money on get rich quick ideals, corrupt/mismanaged crypto firms, scam tokens, or cashing out at the bottom of a bear because they dont have the stomach for it (and I don't blame them other than shouldn't have got in to begin with) and then some retail investors will make money. The only thing I am assuming is that the market will recover but tbh, DJT is a wild card and everything he touches turns to shit.

unknowngloomth

ADA is just like the 95% of alts. A bunch of hopium.

BananaBully

ADA

ozera202

ADA lol what a POS coin

ChestChance6126

What’s striking is that ADA built one of the biggest and most loyal communities in crypto, and staying relevant for that long was no small feat. but eventually the market shifted, people started caring more about real world usage than future promises, and that’s where many newer chains managed to pull ahead.

Hearasongofuranus

I remember a couple of years ago my poor as fuck cousin living in a two room apartment with a wife and two children telling me he bought ADA with everything he has when it was 2usd. My jaw hit the floor and I told him to sell it all tonight. He laughed. I don't think he's laughing now. 

ubermensch1001

Yeah, man, ADA is insanely cheap right now. Most of these people probably bought at ridiculous price levels and are way underwater or sold at a big loss. One poster on here talked about buying at $1 in 2024 with 20k, so it would make sense for him to feel this way lol.

sapiensane

Yep. I did with everything else but for some reason just hung on to ADA.

hoya_doing

ADA needs to disappear to the bottom 1000.

vinkulafu

Darn, I chose crypto at the wrong time, as usual. Down on both ADA and IBIT.

hamson2024

I heard Charles has been shorting ADA 

Full-Sound-6269

Considering ADA devs also leaving bit by bit - it is indeed finished, almost 10 years old chain with nothing to show.

FlyKnown4829

100000 ADA must be something like $20 or so.

ubermensch1001

That was for people who were using a yoroi as a hot wallet instead of just connecting a cold wallet to stake there instead. I was reading some posts on the sub reddit and there were people with actually sizeable positions in ada that got drained doing this, talking 100k+ ADA. Kind of insane to think about.

BeYourself__

Damn, I'm out of crypto world for about a year and I remember ADA already sinking by then but had no idea it gone worse Wont complain tho, I made good money in ADA between 2022-2024

Animated_effigy

Im interested in coins that are getting full on regulatory backing by the US right now as everyone goes full adoption. Any of these coins now have full regulatory backing: BTC, Eth, Sol, XRP, ADA, Avax, Link, Dot, Hbar, XLM, Lotecoin, Doge, Shiba Inu, Tezos, BTC Cash, and Aptos

Spare-Dingo-531

ADA doesn't have the developer count, market cap, mainstream attention or stablecoin volume that Ethereum or Solana have. Honestly, I think ADA is very interesting, but I don't have faith that it will last compared to Ethereum or Solana because those aforementioned advantages tend to compound over time.

SeriousGains

Anyone tempted to scoop the dip on ADA?

anymonero

> Bitcoin and the vast majority of altcoins dropped more than 50% of their price We're not quite at the bottom yet, but this is true right now. Though it's fair to say that ADA and DOT *should have* already recovered back when Solana did, but I don't remember considering them as dead as I did Solana at $8.

anymonero

ADA and DOT remind me a bit of Q4 2022 Solana by how convinced I am that they're dead.

rhagerbaumer

My Cardano (ADA) is down -83%. XRP down -60.89%. AAVE down -73.18. BCH down -62.90%. Basically the whole basket is in the shitter.

Beginning_Ask_9930

you are posting about the guy who scammed. Quit ADA and is not even a real DR. LOL [https://x.com/laurashin/status/2062728679625515032?s=20](https://x.com/laurashin/status/2062728679625515032?s=20) [https://x.com/Crypto\_Jargon/status/2062750465008554324?s=20](https://x.com/Crypto_Jargon/status/2062750465008554324?s=20)

ubermensch1001

I made a lump sum purchase of ADA with this recent dip but other than that every purchase has been Bitcoin, almost all of those in the 60k range. 80% BTC, rest is ETH and ADA.

Ryjin2

Loading up on ADA still?

fuduran

Until ADA drops under 1 cent lol

Illustrious-Boss9356

This is why Cardano has a minimum 1 ADA tx limit. Prevents spam from being cost effective.

Napalm-For-Pets

FET. been a big fan of ADA for almost a decade but got out high.

MakCapital

You drank the Kool aid. Every major active L1 does this better and does it at scale. Meanwhile Cardano struggles with 1 TPS. Tokenization at scale couldn't happen. The whole point. The industry has made numerous valuable achievements, and shipped many amazing products attracting enormous revenue. Some major L1s have lost users. Some gained. In that same time Cardano went from 0 to 0 users. Why it can't hold rank. Don't be mad at me. Be mad at the charlatan that tricked everyone and shipped a non-usuable product at scale just to dip out on Discord. You have nothing to teach me. I was running a Cardano node before main net launched. Did very well with ADA when things were still speculation on what will capture users. Been here since before major exchanges existed. Better pray we decided to run it up out as a next cycle meme play or the last holdouts will continue suffering without massive improvements.

Buydipstothemoon

Okay I don't follow hoskinson even as a 2020 ADA holder, but one thing I know for sure. Hoskinson is never talking about prices. Must be fake.

chubs66

Pretty interesting timing, Charles. It's almost as if he didn't like the analysis going on about him dumping hundreds of millions of dollars in ADA while promising ADA holders that the token was going to moon.

Good-Examination2239

ETH and ADA are my bags. Strongly considering choosing BTC next depending on its movements in the coming months. Feeling very bullish on Crypto in general given how low these prices have been and how bearish the market has been about the general global situation and the opening of AI tech stocks. I think crypto prices go up much more once things become more stable, it just might take several months first.

Good-Examination2239

Shouldn't have said that, no, but in a vacuum, ADA dropped 30% along with basically every other crypto coin when people started pulling out of Bitcoin and started dumping their liquidated assets into the new tech AI IPOs that launched right around that time. There's apparently big movement on the Iran-US war maybe hitting a resolution and it's already back up double digits. Agree with the sentiment. Sounds like the founder is an idiot who needs a stronger stomach or a better project manager with a cooler head than his. The coin has strong growth potential based on its patterns over the last 5 years and is one of the easier ones to stake during low price growth periods.

oopssomething

ADA is still king

CoffeeVikings

He’s the main reason I gave up on ADA

D3VOUR3DD

People gonna shit talk about ADA on X regardless of Charles and his grifters are there or not lol

tetsu2323

ADA has always been a joke riding on his previous role at ETH. Polkadot with Gavin Wood going to 0 too

Manofthe1374

You people need to ignore small timeframes and focus on larger timeframes. This way you will avoid making many mistakes out of emotions, you can avoid losing a lot of money and time this way. Stop trading, take a walk and DCA , it's the bear market. It's the time to plant not to harvest. Volatility and fluctuations exist and the fact that ADA can get back to its ATH 3$ from 0.18$ or Avax to 144$ from 7$ or DOT to 55$ from 1$ is not impossible tbh. The bet is clear, coins will hit the ATH in like years but what's like gambling right now is buying and selling nonstop which might lead you to make many emotional decisions. Just DCA in and you're fine.

Prior_Parsley3960

**Quick Take** * **Claim:** Charles Hoskinson wants to improve Cardano's community culture by shifting discussion away from X and into a more heavily moderated Discord server. * **His reasoning:** He says X is dominated by drama, misinformation, anger, and personal attacks that make productive discussion difficult. * **The plan:** Future community discussions and AMA questions would increasingly come from Discord, where moderators can enforce rules and remove disruptive behavior. * **Critics' response:** Opponents argue this amounts to censorship and avoids addressing deeper concerns about Cardano's ecosystem, adoption, governance disputes, and ADA's poor price performance. * **Notable context:** The article highlights recent ecosystem challenges, including the cancellation of the 2026 Cardano Summit and the shutdown of TapTools. **Why it matters** This isn't really a story about Discord. It's a debate over whether Cardano's reputation problems are primarily: 1. **A communication problem** (toxicity, misinformation, infighting), or 2. **A fundamentals problem** (price performance, ecosystem growth, governance, execution). Supporters of Hoskinson will argue that productive communities require moderation. Critics will argue that stronger moderation can become an echo chamber that suppresses legitimate criticism. **Bottom line:** * **Hoskinson's view:** Better moderation = better community discussions. * **Critics' view:** Moderation won't fix underlying ecosystem concerns. * **Key takeaway:** The real question isn't Discord vs. X—it's whether Cardano's reputation issues are driven more by community behavior or by the project's results.

theroch_

So what you are saying is buy more ADA? Lol. Think I’m gonna buy more anyway. Hope it takes off, I’m emotionally attached now after all these years holding

financeguruIB

1000%. I don’t hold $ADA but i actually couldn’t believe he said that. In a bear market too, when confidence in the market isn’t high in general. Cardano needs new leadership