DOGE

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tldr; Meme coins reached a record $150 billion market cap in December 2024, driven by political-themed tokens like Official Trump (TRUMP) following the U.S. election, according to CoinGecko's 2025 report. However, the market saw a sharp 69% decline within a year, dropping to $47.2 billion by November 2025. The surge was fueled by trends like 'PolitiFi' and massive token launches, but the sector faced issues like rug pulls and insider manipulation. Despite volatility, meme coins like Dogecoin (DOGE) and others continue to evolve, integrating DeFi tools and gaming platforms. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Survivaleast

Most alts deserve to die and I’ve been saying this for nearly a decade at this point. With 95% of them being equivalent to penny stock share selling schemes, it’s not good for the legitimacy of the market. Even the ever so popular DOGE was really just a vast social media marketing campaign to con others into buying so the down on their luck risk takers could finally unload. There are a few projects like Ethereum that really deserve to be in the space, because they have actual real world use. Unfortunately the masses are stupid and want to get rich quick, so they buy into whatever big influencer is peddling at the time. This further delegitimizes the market, because not only are they inevitably getting rug pulled, but are buying coins named after farts, breads, dogs, rainbows and all sorts of other pointless things. The alt space needs a severe cratering, so that the legitimate portion of this market may resurface and claim the value it truly deserves.

Skysor99

Alts switching sides faster than DOGE memes. 🐕

Future-Bet4783

Historically yes, that was insane. But marketcap wise, it doesn’t hold a candle to what we saw in 2021. GME,SHIB, and DOGE slushed multiples times over the amount of money that went into $TRUMP

X_Y_Z807

Be kind: should I dump my DOGE and full port into BTC? My average cost is $0.26 so I'd take a $450 loss and only have $375 to put into it. I feel like I should leave it and find some different cash to expand my BTC holdings, which I have available. Thoughts?

biba8163

> altcoins bleeding like hell… (always has been) **Alt Coin Mirage of Outperformance** Alts can outperform BTC: - When they are tiny/small marketcaps and are gaining prominence - When they dump to kingdom come and are lucky enough to recover Rookie Mistake: - Thinking that Alt that outperformed when it was a small cap will continue to outperform - Thinking your Alt is going to recover Veteran Mistake: - Thinking an Alt is outperforming when it is massively losing value to BTC in the long run - Thinking an Alt is outperforming when it only does a big move after dumping -50% to -90% and the net return if you held is significantly lower than BTC or any other traditional asset you could have invested in - *Example: ETH appears to be a big outperformer but it's an underperformer that only performs after a massive drop (-92% from ~$1400 to ~$80, $4,000 to $1500 last year, etc).* **Cryptos from mid-2017 when crypto became a big marketcap* | Crypto | Since Jun. 2017 | Since Jan. 2018 | Since Nov. 2021 | |--------|----------------|----------------|----------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3509.08% | ⬆️ +434.83% | ⬆️ +31.43% | | ETH | ⬆️ +721.67% | ⬆️ +155.23% | 🔻 -37.97% | | XRP | ⬆️ +640.42% | 🔻 -43.33% | ⬆️ +51.73% | | DOGE | ⬆️ +4167.49% | ⬆️ +655.97% | 🔻 -52.88% | | LTC | ⬆️ +159.21% | 🔻 -73.10% | 🔻 -70.56% | | XMR | ⬆️ +851.05% | 🔻 -7.04% | ⬆️ +48.48% | | XLM | ⬆️ +482.15% | 🔻 -69.12% | 🔻 -47.75% |

biba8163

**Alt Coin Mirage of Outperformance** Alts can outperform BTC: - When they are tiny/small marketcaps and are gaining prominence - When they dump to kingdom come and are lucky enough to recover Rookie Mistake: - Thinking that Alt that outperformed when it was a small cap will continue to outperform - Thinking your Alt is going to recover Veteran Mistake: - Thinking an Alt is outperforming when it is massively losing value to BTC in the long run - Thinking an Alt is outperforming when it only does a big move after dumping -50% to -90% and the net return if you held is significantly lower than BTC or any other traditional asset you could have invested in - *Example: ETH appears to be a big outperformer but it's an underperformer that only performs after a massive drop (-92% from ~$1400 to ~$80, $4,000 to $1500 last year, etc).* **Cryptos from mid-2017 when crypto became a big marketcap* | Crypto | Since Jun. 2017 | Since Jan. 2018 | Since Nov. 2021 | |--------|----------------|----------------|----------------| | BTC | ⬆️ +3509.08% | ⬆️ +434.83% | ⬆️ +31.43% | | ETH | ⬆️ +721.67% | ⬆️ +155.23% | 🔻 -37.97% | | XRP | ⬆️ +640.42% | 🔻 -43.33% | ⬆️ +51.73% | | DOGE | ⬆️ +4167.49% | ⬆️ +655.97% | 🔻 -52.88% | | LTC | ⬆️ +159.21% | 🔻 -73.10% | 🔻 -70.56% | | XMR | ⬆️ +851.05% | 🔻 -7.04% | ⬆️ +48.48% | | XLM | ⬆️ +482.15% | 🔻 -69.12% | 🔻 -47.75% |

biba8163

**Top Performers/Survivors from the Summer of the Flippening (2017)** https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20170615/ | Crypto | Price Change | |--------|--------------| | DOGE | ⬆️ +4167.49% | | BTC | ⬆️ +3509.08% | | XMR | ⬆️ +851.05% | | ETH | ⬆️ +721.67% | | XRP | ⬆️ +640.42% | | XLM | ⬆️ +482.15% | | LTC | ⬆️ +159.21% | | ZEC | ⬆️ +3.34% | | ETC | 🔻 -32.61% | | DASH | 🔻 -76.10% |

No-Committee5221

My Recommendation: Exodus is ideal for beginners due to its clean UI and strong support. Guarda is great if you want broader token support and more advanced features. A- Strategy Option: Convert smaller assets into one or two low-fee coins (e.g., USDC on Solana or DOGE), then transfer. B. Conversion Tips Before Transfer - Use Binance’s Convert feature (not Spot trading) to swap assets with zero fees. - Consider consolidating into BTC + USDC or ETH + DOGE, depending on your long-term view and fee tolerance. C. Transfer Process 1. Install Exodus or Guarda and write down your seed phrase securely. 2. Generate receiving addresses for each coin you plan to transfer. 3. On Binance, go to “Withdraw” → paste the wallet address → confirm network (e.g., ERC-20 vs. Solana). 4. Double-check everything before confirming — especially the network and address format. D. Tutorials : - "Exodus Wallet Setup & Transfer Guide" - "Guarda Wallet Beginner Tutorial" Search YouTube with those keywords — look for recent videos with high likes and clear walkthroughs. If you need more help just ask.good luck.

RosieDear

A little history. My Bro was a big time follower of Shiff (fiat money, don't pay your taxes) and all that stuff - starting in the 1970's. He gave me all the books - Daddy Shiff died in prison. I have bought and sold BTC and DOGE. Only once did I buy (BTC) for an actual reason.....that being when it seemed the world was falling apart during the first Trump presidency. We bought Gold and BTC...still have the Gold, sold most of the BTC. Over the years since then I have learned a lot. I also have 40 years of market investing experience. "Being here", in general, means I have interest in Crypto. The particular interest NOW might be in helping people avoid being taken to the cleaners. But, even then, I always felt better when I rid myself of the losing investments in my portfolio. Seeing them on my dashboard always bummed me out.

robertorgg

How to learn more about a SUI and ADA ? I don’t believe in DOGE but I’d like to learn more about those 2. Is there sb who doesn’t videos on YouTube you can suggest ? Or any website I can look into ? Thank you.

WormCastings

Take a look at Volume on Base or any other platform for ideas. High volume often times speaks volumes. Current top 5 Volumn on base is - DOGE, ZCash, SUI, Cardano and Link.

DBRiMatt

DOGE will remain the #1 memecoin DOGE will continue to make a lot of people money DOGE will continue to make a lot of people lose money DOGE will continue to weaken to BTC on the long run

jormor4

What do you all think of the future of DOGE? I’ve been wondering if its it’s too silly to earn the respect of new big money and too big to be a real moonshot at this point. The ties to Elon were once viewed as positive but sentiment there has shifted majorly too. I hold some but will look for an exit when the time is right. It’s insane to me that it’s got a much bigger marketcap than LINK, XLM, XMR, LTC, etc.

PennywiseMeetGeorgie

Awh I just use CMC and Etoro. I have coins on Base that are tracked using CMC but nothing else. I see others suggesting Coinstats and Coingecko. Might look into it but my portfolio is so small now that it's not worth being mad about it. Literally only have DOGE, HBAR, Swissborg & 1 or 2 more shitty meme coins I don't even look at because they're dead in the water 😂

PennywiseMeetGeorgie

Aye I made some money on XRP, took it out, put it to DOGE and HBAR. Now it's stagnant, maybe a 3% loss or something. Hoping it recovers and goes 0.2 - 0.35

ThriceHawk

It would help if people stopped pinning their hopes and dreams on POOP, FARTCOIN, XRP, PEPE, DOGE, SHIB, FLOKI, PENGU, etc.

ChuckSRQ

And DOGE doesn’t do any of the printing either…

LargeSnorlax

In fairness, in a couple years, the negative commenters here will be on buttcoin, saying how crypto is a scam, so the pipeline is pretty much the same thing Look at the people raging here - Big buyers of Injective at ATH (-90%), Bitcoin at 125k, ETH at 5k, DOGE at ATH in 2021 We all know what they bought, when they bought it - They aren't people involved in the space, they're degenerate gamblers, people spending more money than they can afford to lose, who are mad that they're not good at degenerate gambling Same with the people on buttcoin, they're all former /r/cc users who lost their shirt and pants trading garbage that they didn't understand, so now crypto is a scam and it's going to zero yadda yadda and so forth It's been the same for the entire time I've been in crypto and I doubt it'll change ever

CheesecakeLong4760

I hope sharing my story can bring some value to others who might take something away from it. Let’s break it all down, starting from where it began back in 2017. In 2017, I bought crypto for the first time some ETH and DOGE. Honestly, I only bought them because everyone was saying it was “the next big thing.” I didn’t really know what I was doing. I ended up trading my ETH on Binance for random altcoins and eventually sold the ETH I bought at $100 each for coins like TRX… and basically lost it all. I repeated the same mistakes again around 2021. Now for the interesting part. After those first two “cycles,” I had around $3k left. But the difference was that during that time, I’d actually gained more financial knowledge mainly because I had started a stock index investing plan and just wanted to learn how to make money in general. So, I started again with that $3k, but this time I was much more curious and engaged. I lurked around google, connected with Bullish Ledger Market signals, and made my first “Breakthrough” in the space. Finally, I turned that $3k into $10k thanks to Bullish Ledger Market signals. I hit $100k on July 27, 2025, and for the first time, I felt like I actually had some skills and maybe I could really build something from this.❤️

Signal-Accountant-33

I get what you mean. There are some pretty stable predictions - like how holding for a decade is very likely to be a good investment, and how short-term gains are much less likely and much riskier. We know that meme coins like DOGE have more chance of permanently dipping over BTC. But you're right, those predicting that BTC will be worth X in whatever space of time are just wildly guessing and they have zero evidence for it.

Fun_Equivalent8716

Don't put money into DOGE and shit like that, it's a meme coin. Put it into BTC instead.

Ragnogrimmus

So DOGE coin crashed after Elon went in and gutted a bunch of jobs. Rightfully or not, Money after all at the end of the day is perception. How much you believe in an asset. So in this case the Trump coin sort of shows the overall approval ratings at current time. All currencies usually start higher and sink and level off. By next year you can sort of look at Trump coin and it should give an idea of the general approval ratings of the POTUS. I don't have the underlying differences between the Solana chain or the Ethereum chain. I have some understanding of Ethereum. I bought DOGE coin twice. The 1st time I did it as a joke and lost a little. The second time I thought it had a chance. As soon as the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE was made... I sold for a loss for the 2nd time because I knew DOGE would take forever to recover. People think DOGE and people get upset depending on the person. But DOGE got a little to personal for my taste. In a way the POTUS has balls for putting his name on a Currency while he is currently in office. \-I have no investments in Crypto- Motley Except for IBIT which is on fire. So I like that.

AlexAcoustics

I’m still making fixed weekly investments now. In fact, I got into cryptocurrency back in 2017, and in 2021 I made some money from SHIB and DOGE. But I’ve grown tired of caring about the market every single day — now I just want to do something more mechanical and consistent.

piggleii

Just checking the DOGE/BTC chart. And it hasn't even fully retraced its pump from the 2021 bull market. That's impressive.

LuckyRaven11

Based on the analysis on the cycle. This basically means it a guarantee to go up. Right? I know these last 3 months have been a roller coaster I’m a hodler but I’m nervous that BC will end up being treated like DOGE in 2026. Is BC 4 year cycle comparable to DOGE 4 year cycle?

RascalSr78

They need to filter out all the lying bullshit that Trump spews out of his mouth on this site! Everything that comes out that man’s mouth is a fucking lie! Won’t take accountability for anything, blames the Biden admin for everything and anything, when it’s just him not fulfilling his campaign promises!! He literally makes shit up off the fly, whether it’s a lie, and then talks about it like it’s a fact, knowing that his fact is a lie or he’s just that stupid and just believes his own lies?!? as Trump, the man himself would say, things are amazing in US, we’re bringing in more money than we’ve ever seen in the history of the country, companies are building factories at a crazy rate everyone’s building, only me King Dump good staff eight wars in their first 6 months in office. I didn’t know there was eight wars going on? Anyone else? The only thing fact about Trump, is he definitely needs his mental faculties checked hourly, because something ain’t right with that man! He’s a lying cheating, scamming lunatic who, idols dictators so much that those are the only people he meets with anymore! Well, that’s because we’re hated by every country in the world to the extent that we don’t even have any allies anymore, and we are hated. Yes, we are hated here in the US, literally by everyone! Even people from the poorest countries in the world don’t want to come here, because they know all about Trump, and would rather starve!! No TV, internet, food or radio’s, completely shut off from the world, and they know he’s a dirt bag! Word must travel fast!That they’d rather stay in there mud huts, no doors surrounded by West Nile, carrying mosquitoes, skin and bones and starving than come here to the US! Maybe if he didn’t treat our allies like complete dog shit, this wouldn’t be happening. And the way he’s treated our European allies, especially Zelenskyy his first time at the White House, telling Zelenskyy he needs to be grateful, that he doesn’t have the cards!!!??? What’s funny is the leader of the free world doesn’t have the cards either 😂either does Trump!! He couldn’t end that war if his life depended on it! Here’s why, he favors Russia, is in bed with Putin “who has dirt on him” and favors or wants to be a dictator himself!! It’s just like the war between Israel and Hamas and several countries in the Middle East, which are far from over! The only reason we’re not hearing about bombings in Palestine every day is because Israel’s completely wiped everyone out and there’s no one left the fucking report on or talk about it! And Elon, huge fan my man! I know you’ve had your recent issues with him, but you have no one to blame but yourself! You claim to be, and are a very intelligent man when it comes to being Booksmart, not so much street smart and let Trump’s compulsive lying conning convict ass talk you into doing DOGE“ Department of Grifting Economies” and you should’ve stayed far far far further away from him! It’s obvious you see the light and have distanced yourself, since you’ve realized he’s a using, manipulating, constitution breaking straight up lying dictating con man, or is the light not bright enough yet to see all those zero’s on all your fat ass tax breaks “$500,000,000.00” 🤷🏻‍♂️

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ah-hum

Absolutely. However a ~60% pullback and rejection of the first local ATH as a price floor is a pretty good sign. I'd put it's price floor around $300, tentatively watching this moment to validate that, and I'd put it's true value much closer to Ethereum. I mean, after all this time, DOGE has maintained a high valuation and sits around 20B market cap. Doesn't ZEC have more true value than DOGE?

timetofocus51

What government spending has he cut? The deficit just was increased by 2 trillion. DOGE was ended.

krakensupport

Hey all, totally understand why yesterday’s email caused confusion. Just to clarify: Opting out always returns the same asset you opted in with. 👉 No DOGE surprises. No mystery coins or “trust me bro” The phrasing in yesterday’s message didn’t land the way it should’ve, that’s why a corrected email went out today. Appreciate everyone who flagged it and asked the right questions 🙏 Harley 🐙

tontot

20K to 3K . Shutdown and forgot about it until Musk and DOGE came back to make some noise

bbqyak

15000% lmao? Brother nobody in 2025 is going to be investing in whatever the new version of DOGE/PEPE is at 300k market cap. That's asking to get rug pulled.

Fluffy_Cookie_2023

I checked too, you can stake SOL, ETH, BTC, DOGE, and get daily returns easily

Grand-Button5819

Think about that inflation argument for a moment. What are the real consequences of inflation? You can't really save up in dollars, because inflation will devalue your savings and you'll lose purchasing power. So what do you do? You buy index funds and pump the valuation of the already largest companies in the world. Most shares (90+%) are held, by the richest 10% of people, so you're just making the rich richer. The second thing most people do is buy government bonds, which increases inefficient government spending. Public money is the most inefficient, because there's no real cost analysis to how efficiently it's being spent. It just costs what it costs and there are no incentives to make these services run more efficiently. Say what you want about DOGE, but it uncovered just the tip of the waste spending. So does inflation boost the economy? Kind of, but not very efficiently and in a way that increases wealth inequality. Let's now consider the alternative. Let's assume that you don't need to invest just to keep your purchasing power. The main Keynesian counter argument is that people will start hoarding money, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Sure, some people are content with just having the money sit in a bank account, but these usually aren't the people that have tons of money anyway and their aggregate influence on boosting the economy through investments is probably quite small. People who have lots of money will probably still look for productive ways to allocate capital and earn a profit on it. They will start businesses or buy shares of existing companies through private equity or the stock market. TL;DR: imo the "we need inflation to stimulate the economy" argument is flawed at best and purposefully misleading at worst.

Huge_Strain_8714

I do research on altcoins beforepurchasing. Soon as I buy, it plummets...ADA, XRP, and recently MON....even DOGE, which, just for the heck of it

Wonderful_Writer_133

Just nose-dived 2% into the eighties. EUT, SOL, DOGE, XRP all down 3-4+%. Macro news?

SkunkMonkey

At one time in the first year of DOGE I had as much as 6 million of it, worth $900k atm, and I sold long before it had any real value. I probably got $5k total over a few months. At it's peak, DOGE hit $.50 for a day or two and I would have had 3 million. I'm all out of crypto now, but man, that was a hell of a ride.

Dfeldsyo

Clearly BTC, ETH, BCH, and DOGE.

devCheckingIn

It's all fun and games until you buy, then it dumps 90% and never comes back. Looking at you, BONK. And WIF. And DOGE. And SHIB. And MOODENG.

CapitalIncome845

There's a DOGE ETF now IIRC. I don't have long term conviction on Doge. Sorry.

pop-1988

Use a calculator. Look at the current DOGE price on bitinfocharts. Multiply the DOGE price by the amount of DOGE you're selling. Ask the buyer to agree to the price. Get the buyer to send you a DOGE address. Get the buyer's money Download the offline version of coinb.in Follow the instructions - add one or more of your coins to the txinputs, make a txoutput for the person you're selling to, make another txoutput for change (if you're not selling it all). Make sure you're paying a small fee: input amounts - output amounts = fee amount When you're sure the transaction is correct, especially the output address (buyer's address) and the fee amount (tiny number), sign the transaction. If the signature works, check the transaction again. Send it

pop-1988

The DOGE Core developers have no relationship to dogecoin.com or to the fake Dogecoin Foundation

Spexar

Ahh I see... when ETH is in your 4th house of SOLANA, it forms a square with your DOGE in retrograde which transitions into BTC rising with the new moon.

pop-1988

Dogecoin.com is operated by the self-appointed Dogecoin Foundation The "Foundation" has no relationship with the DOGE developers

pop-1988

For a DOGE wallet, use Coinb.in or Dogecoin Core. No trust for the others > let me know if it can convert the cryptocurrency into any currency from any country A wallet isn't for selling DOGE. It's for receiving and sending Of course, you can sell by sending, if the recipient pays you the right amount of real money You want to avoid KYC. You can sell from a wallet without KYC Sell DOGE to your friends, in person, for cash Otherwise, sell DOGE in a Coinbase account, with KYC

PennywiseMeetGeorgie

Sold XRP and bought HBAR & DOGE so here's hoping it can do decent. If both can do 0.35 - 0.55 cents I'll be happy. If there is indeed a parabolic bull run I'll take 0.80 on each.

nitroacid411

Do not go with the TURTLE you have seen the alts of DOGE...which is not doing well. These meme coins fail hard. SHIB, PEPE, leave them alone like TRUMP, HAWK, FART. STOP.

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MusaRilban

Ergo is one of those projects that will either explode or die, no middle ground. Founded by the same guy who made LINK. It's got zk proofs, it's eUTXO like BTC, proof of work, a great mixer, true fixed supply (coins that don't get used for years get redistributed to miners as fees, it's the only crypto with a true fixed supply so figure can't go up or down - BTC and others ultimately trend towards 0 as coins are lost). Smart contracts, DeFi, not on any tier 1 exchanges. The devs just non-stop build. I think it's pumping rn because of BTC Runes. The Rosen Bridge team (a bridge on Erg to BTC/ADA/ETH/BNB/DOGE) have just introduced BTC Runes+ which essentially lets you turn BTC into a playground for custom tokens. There's so, so much more. It's honestly a hidden gem waiting to rip your face off.

Pristine_Kangaroo527

XRP is flailing. It’s got a big following like ADA that don’t know when to quit. DOGE is one of the dumbest coins ever. No utility, and younger generations will laugh at GenZ/Millennial love for it like GenZ/Millenniaks laugh at some boomer stuff.

nitroacid411

I couldn't imagine the taxes and capital gains paid from paper hands? We literally just had a Shutdown longest ever. Fed rate cut. Cartels liquidated in past 2 weeks on longs . These are great moves. I'm glad they came at this time. Instead of blindside. It hurts feeling when an asset goes 125k max However, let's look at November 2024? $69,000 $86,000 now. After all the crap. We are still up as hodl. Imagine holders like Russia, Cartels who burned assets. You think middle class holders are selling? You're nuts man. This isn't panic your average holder. These are sells taking profits. Look at how long DOGE a meme coin has been up and down. That crap is for the birds. They didn't kill it off. Come on man since 2009. Rocking Satoshi. You should too. Hang in. Don't hang yourself. Holidays are rough. Everyone wants a white Christmas. Hold and save for one some day. Don't cave over this. Saylors, El Salvador, these are wild inspiring. Turn off the marker price alerts. Get you a home screen widet price for your favs like the time and temperature of your phones. Stop opening that app like Facebook or whatever you do over and over refreshing and expecting different results. Pay attention but don't let this consume you. Good luck and have fun investors.

vb90

LOL, the twitter profile thing reveals that the guy behind DOGE is a scammer from India. haha

LayWhere

Nephews brain stuck on DOGE as if they ever achieved anything

mR_m1m3

may I ask how much DOGE do you hold? because following your reasoning, one should definitely have a bag of it, just in case.

Gold_Alfalfa5077

Honestly. Nobody really knows. I don’t subscribe to buy and hold with crypto because it has no intrinsic value. I do buy on the dips of 8% and above weekly and then in 2-3 weeks sell at a profit of 15-20% gains for the week. Since May I've more than tripled my initial investment of $5000 doing this on XRP, DOGE, HBAR, TRON, and ADA. Robinhood and Kraken (I'm sure others do too) make this easy to set buy and sell limit orders so you don't have to constantly watch it. I've bought $12k of the above this week and because the losses have been so great, I've raised my "sell" percentage to +15% on $8k and +25% on the remaining $4k as the top 10 players are off over 30% average on their all time high. So even if I miss the mark on my 25% I'll still make excellent returns on my 15% targets. The key is being patient, don't panic and don't get greedy on your expected returns...8-10% return in a 30 day period is 96-120% annual return rate!

YogurtCloset3335

Well I guess there are all kinds of wallets? Exodus for example supports ETH and all ERC-20 tokens, but also supports basically all top 40 cryptos from BTC/DOGE/ZEC/TRX etc. It's a big app but it seems to work. At the end of the day, nobody cares which protocol or SDK is used if their payment product WORKS. Certainly there will be winners and losers but they'll be chosen based on a variety of factors. The amount of consumer adoption will likely be the most important however. Oh, and which wallet/coin/system gets hacked the least.

biggest_guru_in_town

Bitcoin,ETH,XRP,DOGE. Probably Solana,BNB. Yes its regarded.

Emergency_Egg1281

2 Words THE DEMOCRATS !!!market should have pumped after job report being positive. For all the crap everyone gives Trump about the crypto space and how he is manipulating it etc....thats straight B.S.. There are more whales than trump with more influence and a bunch are Dems who are trying so hard to make him look bad THEY are keeping you from making money because only they can make money off us and they made it clear when they slipped during the DOGE housecleaning by actually saying " you keep your hands off OUR money , Trump.!" It's OUR F ---king money NOT theirs. Almost every analyst thought the crypto space would pop after positive job report number...but it shit the bed again. It's still going to bump but I think the government cracking down and seizing BTC used for criminal intent has put a speed bump on things. I personally am loading up on CORE that is a bargain under .24 per token. Everyone thinks only BTC will survive but Corechain will be here as long as BTC. go to the website Core is a perk for bitcoin miners as you can mine 4 tokens a years now which is fine IF BTC stays above 120k. If its stays low it gets to the point its to much cost in computer power to mine with not much profit. So CORE is given to miners to fill this gap. Research CORECHAIN and its tie to BTC. To me , seems like a NO Brainer. It was .13 this morning an ATL !! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, HANG IN ITS GOING TO GET BETTER THE CYCLE HAS CHANGED.

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biba8163

There were several prolific posters who claimed to be experienced vets who have been in crypto since 2013-14 who predicted DOGE to $1. I would point some out but then I'd be called a creepy stalker.

Flimsy_Oven_7569

Bitcoin. (Current DOGE bag holder)

Otherwise-Line-9223

Honestly, I thought DOGE and XRP would tank with BTC, but they’re holding up better than expected. I only buy alts, and since the two strongest ones aren’t really down, I’m not buying right now.

StacysMom-_-

Fr better off with DOGE lol

Necessary-Nature-380

Crypto was absolutely fine without Trump. It was the ETFs that helped it along the way... he's done absolutely nothing for crypto and Musk leaving DOGE was a huge PR disaster. If Kamala was in charge, at least crypto would've grown organically and those so called "hostile regulations" would've stopped those liquidation events which was clearly aimed to fill Barron's bags.

MaximumStudent1839

I like to think of it like what Celestia was. Back in the early innings of the bull market, the modular infrastructure was all the hype. People were hyped about how BIG DA consumption would be. So TIA pulled like a 10x+ from TGE. Over time, the real demand for DA for Celestia proved to be much lower than expected. Then, the marketing team pivoted to "modular money". It became incoherent over time because the execution L1s built on top of Celestia also had tokens competing for "money". Over time, Celestia slowly crashed from $20 to below $1. The value accrual thesis is a Frankenstein for Zcash. The first narrative is that they want Bitcoiners to think of it as a new SoV. I am not sure it makes any sense. A big portion of Bitcoiners always hated ETH for its premine, non-ossification, and PoS emission etc. They vehemently want to label ETH as a tech stock because ETH has upgrades and PoS. Zcash has PoS on its roadmap and further upgrades like enlarging its block size. It also has a premine and a previous dev mining tax. Don't see why their ETH critiques don't pass down to Zcash. Then there are Bitcoiners who are worried about the security budget issue and dislike alts for their centralization. Zcash faces the same problem with its hard cap and mining concentration. I don't understand how Zcash would crack this cultural barrier when ETH/LTC/XMR haven't. If you go through X, it is mostly alt shillers/KoLers shilling it as the next BTC. The other angle of SoV is that it is a fork of BTC with encryption. But there are already a hundred thousand different BTC forks, many with different permutations of technical additions. If you add a technical feature to a BTC fork, then it becomes the next BTC well, and then you would have a million different BTCs. Is the space ready to open this Pandora's Box? Are you ready to dilute BTC like Pump Fun did in diluting DOGE? You could make the argument, "privacy" is a high-demand feature, so we should treat it as a premium. But I don't see it in the data. In fact, private transactions on Zcash sit below 5%. Now, the second narrative is that it is the best platform to conceal transactions. First, it is debatable. Second, the token value accrual thesis is questionable. The argument is, it has the largest anonymity set in TVL for an encryption-based approach. Monero has the biggest TVL, but it uses the dummy approach. Alt L1s also have their native encryption-based protocols, but their TVL isn't as big as Zcash. This shortfall is a reflection of a lack of organic demand for privacy tech. If there is real demand for privacy, I don't see why ETH stuff like RailGun can't have higher TVL than Zcash. This Zcash TVL seems more like an artificial narrative building than organic demand. If it is just concealment, then people would just use it to transfer rather than hodl. You end up with a case like Litecoin - ppl just buy, transfer, and then sell. It is better to bet directly on intent solvers/LPs, not even NEAR TBH, to earn swap fees than hold Zcash. Generally, "crypto cash" is not a good narrative to bet on. I draw the comparison to Celestia because it is the earliest, biggest run getting hype way beyond what it shows the proportional substance.

MaximumStudent1839

> And when tesla actually started accepting doge for cars it didn't even do anything to the price.  Exactly. That is what the last cycler believed - adoption means a higher price. That is why they rushed to buy DOGE. Only over time, the space slowly realized it is hodling, not "adoption", that drives price up. BUT the speculation of adoption drove ppl to buy and hodl DOGE. > Winklevoss bought 208,000 zec, currently valued at $120,000,000 The price they bought at won't buy the same amount now. For the chart to go up, they won't be the ones to top blast. That is why they issued a DAT to build a "flywheel" amping up speculation to drive up marginal buys. > didn't buy nearly as much. Most of these VCs buy their coins at like 20% of the entire FDV. That's not "nearly as much" to you? If not, I don't know what is.

1_BigPapi

yup. Its a shitshow (said as someone laid off this year by Elon's DOGE). We'll see how that goes but hopefully not a second shutdown.. especially if the tariffs haven't been resolved yet, it would probably be the catalyst for the end of any bull cycle (assuming we are in one then).

Survivaleast

Nope, but it’s fairly easy if you just stick with eth and btc. All the people with regrets have either not been in the market long enough, or got lured into buying some pointless coin by an influencer or fake social media marketing campaign. Look at the history of DOGE, where millions of absolute fools were duped into buying a coin because it was the trendy social media thing for a bit. We have had countless projects fade in and out. Some offering nothing, some claiming to be the ‘eth killer’ or ‘btc killer’. Yet people don’t seem to learn these very important facts. There is no ETH killer. There is no BTC killer. There never will be, and the fact one project feels the need to compare itself to the already established and superior offering should be enough to tell you that new project is going to fail. In crypto, it’s the unpopular, contrarian opinion that reigns supreme. Popularity is usually faked, and easily done through astroturfing, shill campaigns, paying influencers and so on. The masses seek to get rich quick and wind up losing their money. The individual thinkers persevere and change their lives.

zooka19

20% Used to be like 60/40 crypto to stocks, but I've been in AI a lot more. I've only bought Crypto (ETH), maybe twice in the last 12 months. Bit of DOGE too, but that's just fun money I'll give to my parents whenever they want it.

manifestDensity

WiF and DOGE are always so tempting to me, but I always manage to talk myself out of them before I pull the trigger. It seems like every time I look at them there is so much upside. But then I look closer and that there is also a very long way for them to drop

chernz94

Not at all! I only invested in BTC, ETH, SOL and DOGE when I first started. Sold ETH, SOL, DOGE and went all in on BTC. It's been very good to me! 🙏

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Post is by: NOBENTCORNERS420 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ovmekg/dogestation_an_informative_review_on_character/ I wanted to share my experience with DogeStation, a platform I've been checking out that blends the fun of collecting characters with a passive crypto rewards system focused on Dogecoin ($DOGE). It's a low-effort way to potentially stack some sats (or shibes!) daily. This isn't a high-action P2E game; it’s more of a Collectible Mining / Idle-Earn platform built around the Doge theme. If you're looking for a simple, passive addition to your crypto routine, read on! 🔑 The Core Concept: Character Mining DogeStation’s main mechanic is Character Mining. Instead of running heavy hardware or grinding in a game all day, you acquire digital characters that automatically generate Dogecoin for you over time. The Crew: Each character in your collection has a specific, set DOGE/day earning rate. For example, a common character like "Nibble" might earn 0.025 DOGE/day, while a rarer, higher-tier character will have a significantly better return. Passive Income: The earnings are passive. Once you have a character, it generates DOGE for you every 24 hours, and you simply log in to collect the profits. Acquisition: Characters are primarily acquired through Mystery Boxes (Basic, Epic, Legendary), offering a lottery-style chance to get a rare character with higher earning potential. 💡 Key Benefits and Earning Streams True Passive Income: The main appeal is the set, automatic earning rate of the characters. It's a "set-and-forget" model once your mining crew is established. DOGE Focus: Directly earns one of the most widely recognized and liquid cryptocurrencies ($DOGE). Multiple Earning Avenues: Beyond the daily character mining, there are several ways to boost your potential returns: VIP Program: Progressing through tiers (usually by depositing $DOGE) unlocks benefits like free boxes, faster withdrawals, and bonus rewards. Quest Center: Complete simple tasks (like writing reviews or making social media posts) to earn extra $DOGE or Mystery Boxes. Referral System: (If allowed by this subreddit's rules) You can invite others to the platform and earn a commission on their deposits, often starting around 10% and increasing with VIP status. Referral Tournaments: Participate in weekly competitions where top referrers share a large prize pool of $DOGE. ⚠️ A Note on Engagement & Risk As with any crypto project, please conduct your own research (DYOR). While the passive model is appealing, remember the value of $DOGE is volatile, and the profitability depends on the platform's long-term sustainability and your initial investment in acquiring characters. It falls under the "gamified staking" or "yield farm" category, so only commit funds you are comfortable with. Want to check it out? If you're interested in building your own Doge-Mining crew, I've included my referral link below. Using it helps me out directly and might give you a small bonus, depending on the current promotion! My Referral Link: https://dogestation.com/register.php?ref=69122299 What are your thoughts on collectible mining models? Has anyone else tried DogeStation or a similar crypto-collectible platform? Let's discuss below! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

MusaRilban

You are definitely correct that a fair bit of the immunity has come from those facts tbh. But what keeps me bullish is a few things: 1. It's got optional privacy features as good as or better than 99% of privacy coins 2. No premine, ASIC resistant allowing for decentralised distribution 3. Mewfinance/Mewmart (check it out, so good) 4. Rosen.tech (bridge to ADA/BTC/BNB/DOGE/ETH+ more coming) 5. Sub-blocks rolling out soon leading to exponentially faster block times 6. Demurrage (coins not used for years get recirculated back to miners - pure fixed supply not trending to 0 like BTC and other limited supply coins) In the end, I'm probably just an idiot shouting at the wall. But value is 100% there. It's not on exchanges but has held this 50m mcap floor so well. If there ever was a true moonshot, Ergo is 100% it. It's just depressing that the cypherpunk values of crypto have turned to shit coin scam.com . The guy who replied to me laughing has posted multiple times about being scammed via crypto. People just do not get it at all.

c0brachicken

I use to work at Best Buy, and stayed chatty with a few of them. A bunch of them put their stimulus checks on DOGE, and went to 10-20k per person. I was in the store the night Musk was on SNL, and told them they need to dump at least half before the show, if not all of it. Never did ask if they sold or not. But I do know for a fact, that they have to remember me telling them to dump before the show started. Like you went from $1,200 to 20k, cash out and run.

Busy-Chemical-6666

Just recharge your dollars to USDT in an exchange and the sit quite until the market crashes. Wait for months, years and when the market crashes (set up some alarms) buy coins that are not very stable. It could be SUI, DOGE or something. After market crash these will bounce back giving you 2x-3x return and then sell and then buy Bitcoin and hold.

Project_Demosthenes_

Better off looking into spx6900, an evolution of DOGE culture, BTC, and GME combined. r/spx6900 https://preview.redd.it/wp03u4fi8p0g1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58381d7be37690a95631ca037ac9724ac5810307

DBRiMatt

I'm not so familiar with proof of work, but I assume there is some sort of 'lottery' to it. I believe SHIB is like BTC, it has a max supply, and relies on burns to bring it down. I think DOGE just gets more supply. I was hoping some else would have answered this for me xD

Y0l0BallsDeep

I'm still waiting on my DOGE stimu check

Melodic-Rip5039

Ada is barely even spoken of your choice but you know what your getting into with those. Casino. Your not the house bro. A solid bro would suggest BITCOIN , ETH , SOL AND XRP. THATS FUCKING IT. DOGE AND SHIB FOR PEBBLES IF YOU WANNA GAMBLE SOME.

fredjsnj

After the DOGE $5k check

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Post is by: LongjumpingPresent19 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ot0zgz/us_currency_market_gov_dollar_make_it_make_sense/ I’m a pretty street smart, work in finance, have taken the red pill, yet cannot put my finger on what’s playing out here across the topics below. I have to imagine this feels a lot like what it felt like in 1970 before the reset or in 2007 pre-recession, but it’s like a mix of The Big Short, Terminator, Anastasia, Squid Games… and everything happening all at once, which I realize is by design. I know I’m not the only one feeling this, so let’s put on some tinfoil hats and figure this out… 1. Currency & Dollar Debasement - [ ] The Genius Act with stable coins tied to treasuries… - [ ] Hedge funds currently holding up US Treasuries - [ ] Nonstop printing/ debasement of the dollar - [ ] Global shift toward CBDC, stablecoins, digital IDs, etc. - [ ] This admin and its cronies pushing BTC and stablecoins simultaneously - [ ] JPMC still only owns about $1M worth of BTC - [ ] Various BRICs backing investments in gold while we open up AK mining for gold and invest tons of money into nuclear power - [ ] DOGE doing whatever the hell it did with our info 2. Economy - [ ] Constant, impending crash, reset or rug pull - [ ] Endless bailouts- Basically, real estate, healthcare, insurance, cars, banks are all living off gov subsidies (aka our taxes and value of the dollar?) - [ ] Big Beautiful Bill incentivizing home buying amidst property taxes rising, institutional investors and so many Boomers dying off - [ ] UN “you’ll own nothing and be happy” - [ ] All of Trump’s comments about paying off the national debt with bitcoin - [ ] Gov allowing PE access to our 401ks - [ ] Gov withholding benefits distributed directly from their hands, while deepening reliance on every facet of “private markets” via constant bail, outs and inflation - [ ] The AI genie is out of the bottle and going to inhibit our ability to maintain careers/ stable pay Questions/ hunches I have, but haven’t fully pieced together: - [ ] Switch to stable coins feels like a pseudo-nationalism currency play on US gov spending? But aren’t the stablecoins even worse than our fiat dollars if they can still be devalued by “printing?” Even worse, these would incentivize the gov to keep over spending and allow them to further monitor us… - [ ] Hasn’t every empire who tried to nationalize their currency faced sabotage? Or are we going to stage wars (or currency crusades) to impose the US stablecoins on others? - [ ] Does this further cuff us to the sinking US ship? - [ ] Is this admin moving toward the WEF’s wishes or against? - [ ] The Hedge Funds have insider info from the admin and are hiding their money in treasuries for some sort of windfall to come? - [ ] Various BRICs backing investments in gold—is the next war going to be around 2 world currencies? One backed by gold, one backed by the US gov’s P&L? - [ ] Or are we going to devalue gold via the AK mining? Also, isn’t gold made via nuclear fusion? We’re investing a ton into nuclear, how long until we can make gold in a lab? - [ ] Was Elon’s point about no currency and just energy referring to BTC, carbon credits or otherwise? - [ ] This admin and its cronies pushing BTC, but if it were truly valuable wouldn’t they’d wanna keep it to themselves? - [ ] Yet there’s no plans for regulating it and the genius act or otherwise, so is it truly the sovereign hedge? - [ ] DOGE- let me guess they’re going to say Russia breached our data, we have to shut down Social Security, and here’s a new digital asset account for you all set up and ready to go? - [ ] BTC becomes a non-regulated store of value hedge, but it can still be confiscated? - [ ] What happens to the credit card networks in this? - [ ] What leverage do we have? - [ ] Beyond your religious beliefs, community and nature, what does sovereignty actually look like in this mess? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

drugofchoice76

https://preview.redd.it/1jvyza8rwb0g1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cec68d65676d074e4844fc582849d19bc3854b2d Yes! Im going to put in the same place where my DOGE check is.

Stunning-Chipmunk243

Still waiting on my payout from all the savings DOGE supposedly garnered for us all

Dubb18

Bessent actually clarified this post this morning and suggested the $2K may come in the form of tax breaks. All this means is don't hold your breath while Trump is setting up to blame a Supreme Court decision on tariffs as to why those checks didn't come in the mail (they were never going to come like the DOGE checks).

Double-LR

Is my DOGE check just gonna be stapled to the back of this check or… should I keep checking my mail box every day???

MandyG6

We’re gonna be rich! Oh wait, where’s my 5k DOGE rebate.

kellzone

Still waiting on that $5K check from all of DOGE's savings that we were promised. Should be here any day now I bet.

ScandicVoyager

Like the DOGE check?

poa_kichizi

Checks are in the mail right behind the $5k DOGE checks

Carmanman_12

If you think this is going to happen, you’re delusional. It’s like those $5k DOGE checks.

straylight_2022

This payment will immediately follow the 5k *DOGE* dividend *check scheduled for "next year".* Unfortunately that is a musk "next year" which has a indeterminate actual time frame. Could be 3 years, 12 or never. It is related to a trump "two weeks".

night_crawlers

The check is in the mail just like the DOGE checks 🤣

lunargrover

Yeah, DOGE dividend, plus Tariff money is $7000! lol

Dr-Mumm-Rah

The same idiots that are still complaining that their DOGE savings checks were probably lost in the mail.

M3ad0w5

I’m still waiting on my DOGE dividend… /s

Future-Bet4783

Tech boomer coins leading is good for the market, usually means it’s still just crypto native people fomoing in. When you see shit like SPX6900 doing a DOGE coin type move, shit is max frothy

mrtotot1995

The irony is people who disregard Chat GPT like this, clearly don't use it. It actually lists the sources used for the information gathered. So you're only settling for Reddit if you are entirely uncritical and choose to settle for Reddit. Mine is programmed to only seek credible and non partisan sources and it links said sources, so your point is entirely invalid. I think it's good that you claim to watch all outlets, I would agree that's good media literacy practice. But claiming Fox news is the most credible....while reality dictates that it is among the least credible, reveals a level of brainwashing and projection that is beyond my scope to deal with. I don’t hate Elon, I just see him for what he is. He bought his way into political influence, used ‘saving taxpayer money via DOGE’ as a smokescreen, and then gutted agencies while funneling contracts to his own companies. that’s a textbook conflict of interest. His fraud and waste claims were exaggerated to justify it, and when that narrative collapsed, he flipped audiences. First grifting the left with idealism, then the right with outrage. He’s not a hero or a villain, he’s just another billionaire opportunist playing both sides for profit.

ArtichokeUsed1129

>**Well you got your answer**, fundamentals matter even if the underlying ownership of the asset isn't being publicly traded. Huh? Is that a yes or no on if you wouldn't mind owning your cryptos even if they werent traded on a marketplace? I mean all in all your assets have to produce SOMETHING to you for you to own it, right? I don't know what hyperliquid or whatever is and am not interested in learning about it, but maybe you can tell me what do you get out of those others you mention, assuming you own them to mention them, ETH, AAVE, SOL, TRON, etc. Can you tell me how you calculate what price you are willing to pay for any of them? What price you determine to be overvalued? You say you can calculate it using traditional metrics. Can you just tell me what figures you've come up with? You mention P/B but that makes zero sense for a crypto. I'm not going to open 5 different links on something that you can just say because surely you can spit out some metrics as an owner yourself. Honestly, If I go to a cryptosub and ask what metrics they use to value their holdings you think anyone will do anything else than laugh? Never did I see ANYONE talk about P/E on a shitcoin, and I seriously doubt you have done any financial calculations to determine a FAIR price. I know that these communities are such large echochambers that theres always a few posters leading others who are just parroting the same stuff forwards without even understanding it themselves. It's actually funny that you think these aren't speculative assets where money is being made based on other people speculating on their market price. Do you not see most of your fellow investors say its just speculation and they are just gambling? Does that not bother you? What comes to luck, that's probably the biggest cringe here. You think something like DOGE has good fundamentals instead of holders just getting lucky that Elon decided to pump it because he though it was hilarious? So if someone made Doge 2.0 with objectively better "fundamentals" how would you determine it's market value compared to the original? Other peoples speculation IS the driving factor for any crypto. Or are you going to use P/E, P/S, P/B again on something that doesn't produce anything or have a book for their assets to even calculate it of? How many cryptos even produce anything where you can do your valuation that you deem accurate? I mean you must regard your valuation as accurate for it to even have any meaning. Probably less than 0.1% though? Nobody here even here cares about anything that's been produced, at most its SPECUALTION on future developments, do you really not see that? Thats why these aren't fundamentally sound assets, they are speculative ones based almost entirely on hype from retail investors, none of the actually smart investors would touch any of this, and no you aren't smarter than them and neither are the twitterbros you parrot who probably have zero education on economics.

Fyve0nit

My 2014 DOGE made profit... SURE it took eight years, some Elon tweets and mutiple rigs on this very site before that... My 2017 XRP bag made profit SURE it took 8 years of garlicbread pressure but it made profit You see what im getting at?