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AI says - how many 5090s for one PH/s it depends on the hash mode (algorithm). An RTX 5090’s speed varies a lot by hash type in Hashcat benches. Using recent 5090 FE benchmarks: • NTLM (mode 1000): ~340 GH/s per 5090 → ~2,940 GPUs for 1 PH/s.  • MD5 (mode 0): ~220.6 GH/s → ~4,533 GPUs for 1 PH/s.  • SHA-1 (mode 100): ~70.2 GH/s → ~14,236 GPUs for 1 PH/s.  • MySQL323 (mode 200): ~544.7 GH/s → ~1,836 GPUs for 1 PH/s.  Rule of thumb: #GPUs ≈ (1,000,000 GH/s) ÷ (per-GPU speed in GH/s) because 1 PH/s = 1,000,000 GH/s.
They can't attack Doge coin. It uses Litecoins proof of work which is ASICs... Their a GPU coin they can't effectively mien scrypt. It's like brining a knife to a gun fight. Nothing will come of this.
I’ve cracked a few before. Happy to write you a GPU script, open source it, others here can peer review. If I crack it, send me a tip. :)
Do you have any idea if you used really secure passwords or not? If you didnt use long passwords, you could try cracking it yourself with a gaming GPU.
Not possible. This is like saying what’s the probability we stop using large harvesting machines and went back to slave labor for farming. GPU mining offers nothing but more cost and difficulty with mining compared to ASICs.
> Maybe the ASICs become much more profitable mining something else This is very unrealistic, since an ASIC is essentially a door stopper, if it doesn't mine bitcoin. By design, it cannot really do anything else. Anyway, if such a scenario happens somehow, the difficulty adjustment algorithm has a maximum level of downwards adjustment, which IIRC is 25% downwards for every adjustment period(2016 blocks). So first of all, the remaining blocks of that specific period still need to be mined in order for the adjustment algorithm to kick in, and second of all, it will by only adjustment by 25%. This means there will a lot of time be passed before GPUs become viable again, since new blocks will be coming in so slowly, until the difficulty adjustment will reach a level where GPU is in any way profitable.
It doesn't affect Bitcoin in practice because there are no Bitcoin miners close to 50% The mechanism being discussed - secretly mining a series of blocks and releasing them all as a "surprise" to replace the chain tip - is useful for a few reasons 1. it defeats Satoshi's white paper mining risk calculations, because those calculations assume competition for each block, one block at a time. See section 11 "Calculations" 2. it defeats the double-spend victim's "wait 6 blocks" strategy if the replacement chain tip is more than 6 blocks long The definitive example of this method is the 2020 BTG double-spend attack https://gist.github.com/metalicjames/71321570a105940529e709651d0a9765 The theft works by depositing BTG to an exchange, buying BTC, withdrawing BTC - all during the regular miners making 6 blocks per hour. At the same time, the thief uses 51% mining hashes rented on NiceHash to mine 2 hours of blocks faster than the regular miners, and in these 14 blocks spending the same BTG to themselves instead of depositing it to the exchange. Then release the 14 blocks to the BTG node network. The nodes automatically replace that much of the chain tip because the new tip is a longer chain The thief gets to keep the BTG, and also keep the BTC bought on the exchange This worked on BTG because * BTG is not SHA256, not ASIC-mined, is only GPU mined * GPU mining hashes are available for rent on NiceHash and similar hash broker sites * BTG's price and hash rate means it only costs $1700 per hour to rent 51% hash rate for BTG * the exchange (Binance) wasn't smart enough to wait 30 blocks after receiving the BTG deposit (now they are) None of those conditions apply to BTC, but it's possible in the future, after the BTC price bubble bursts --- To clarify the Monero discussion, it's not possible there either, because Qubic doesn't control enough miners' hashes, and because its miners will switch from Qubic to another pool to prevent Qubic having 51% The pool only controls its miners' blocks if the miners don't switch pools. Qubic's malicious attempt drives away its miners Also Monero is CPU mined, not GPU mined, costs much more than a few thousand per hour to overtake the network, and because Monero CPU hashes are not easy to rent on NiceHash (at least, it's not possible to rent 51%)
BitcoinMag wanting us to choose between HFSP and commiting tax fraud. This isn't 2011, you can't mine it from your C/GPU. This ship sailed long ago.
Yes I've been saying this for years. This problem is hugely amplified by the ASIC miners. It used to be most people could participate (even if uneconomically) in mining and strengthening the network with broadly distributed GPUs. Then those GPUs became hard to access. Then ASICs made those GPU's obsolete from an efficiency standpoint. Then the ASICs became difficult to procure in any amount of scale for all but the best capitalized players. So we've created a technological bottleneck to decentralization (though it's still decentralized relative to a central bank). But as a BTC maxi (with 0.5% outside of BTC), I'm happy to see this effort. Discussion like this is what will make BTC durable. Hopefully the community continues to debate issues and try solutions. Godspeed to all.
Yes. of course GPU mining of altcoons was wiabke for many years after. The GPU reference was a reminder of the state of Bitcoin at the time.
While GPU mining for Bitcoin was dead then. GPU mining for other coins persisted and could have been paid out or converted to Bitcoin.
I bought a new GPU just about when bitcoin was being talked about on slashdot, I am like I can generate money and test my GPU works. It was well before 2012. Later on I had a spare hundred grand or so, and I told the misses, I was going to buy $1000 worth of bitcoin, it was less than 10 a coin that point. She said she would leave me if I did.... I could of have retired, she could have retired. Every one I know could have retired.
Outsider with no horse in this race between you two. Criticising his laptop is a shitty way to push an argument. You can trade on a 15 year old netbook, the GPU makes zero difference. It's completely irrelevant to the discussion and just makes you look like a prick. Enjoy your retirement.
TAO doesn’t have the same capabilities as Render. Bittensor is focused on creating a decentralized network for training and sharing AI models, while Render provides the distributed GPU power needed for rendering, visual effects, and AI workloads. They’re in different lanes. It’s a bit like comparing a teacher to a power plant — one shares knowledge, the other supplies the energy to run the machines. Both are valuable, but one can’t fully replace the other. It’s a bit like comparing a teacher to a power plant — one shares knowledge, the other supplies the energy to run the machines. Both are valuable, but one can’t fully replace the other. I’m terrible with analogies. I even had to ask ChatGPT to help me with an analogy and I think it’s worse than I am. 🙄 I think you should buy back some render basically, but that’s not investment advice.
I love PEP - proof-of-work coin, fork of doge, no pre-mine, no ICO, fair launch, merge-mined with Doge and Litecoin, GPU-mineable, low market cap frog money. Early doge vibes are real.
I used to be an activist about it. I would be sending people bitcoin from my phone, I would talk about it, I hosted seminars about it at work back in 2012. I tried to get friends and colleagues to split the cost of a GPU mining rig in 2011. Nothing really made a difference because people just thought I was a kook. Then I worked with people for a few years that were bitcoin 24x7 and it was amazing! Now when people ask me about bitcoin I just brush them off and move on. I never bring it up myself.
You would download and all known addresses (UTXO) that had non-zero balance or at least activity (received and spent money) during a given time period when the user knows they were using the wallet. It is large but not excessive, less than 100 GB? Full blockchain size is 670GB, we need only addresses not other details, and can filter by known time range, and addresses can even be trimmed from 25 bytes to let’s say 10 bytes for address - it will still be very unique. Computationally it does not even need to be in GPU or even in RAM, it can stay on disk. Compute all valid permutations of words -> calculate ~29mln (479 millions / 16) seeds to BIP derivation paths (this is computationally intense!) -> get perhaps 200mln candidate addresses at common derivation paths -> 10 GB of candidate addresses (if trimmed to 10 bytes per address). Now need to lookup/join a 10GB dataset against a 100GB dataset on disk, it is doable on a PC in lots of ways effeciently.
Yeah the GPU can easily give you all the possible permutations of the correct seed phrases and checksums but how would you go about checking every derivation path for a balance? Shit starts to get weird really quickly.
Not exactly. The number of order permutations of 12 words is 12! = 479,001,600 combinations. It can probably be solved on a powerful GPU in a matter of minutes, especially since 1 of 16 combinations passes the checksum test, and 15 out of 16 can be very quickly discarded. With 24 words… 6.5e+23 - practically unfeasible today but not impossible. Like 10,000 GPU cluster x 1,000 years (back of the napkin estimates). So while the order of words is an important information, by itself it not secure enough by itself.
Well, either SHA-256 will become re-enforced for quantum computing, potentially an upgrade for the mining suite and the miners will give a consensus to upgrade the network hash. Or we will see a AI dystopian world where the first person to unlock it will be able to competently do a 51% attack and destroy the network by front running all the data and being able to program the hash out and front run the transfer location and drain any transactions that occur on the block that is being solved with Quantum Computing. Its a catch 22 scenario, we just need to pray who ever gets the GPU is not a tyranical fiat driven over-seer... Oh wait...
Yeah, don't need to.. I'm a huge fan of AMD (their CPUs are killer) and I like the fact that ROCm is open source (their version of CUDA) but unfortunately it is a fact that Nvidia is the defacto industry standard. Every single LLM related code/platform/etc defaults to CUDA. Everything from ChatGpt, huggingface, lm studio, ollama, gpt4all, vLLM, and on and on are all built with CUDA acceleration baked in.. and sure AMD's ROCm backend technically exists but who's going to port the 10 billion lines of code for every single library when day one every single one already supports CUDA? That's a ton of work and a hell of a headache that is not worth the 20% savings offered by getting an AMD GPU.. nobody's going to spend an additional two months manually porting every single update, every library drop, etc. AMD's open source ROCm is cool, I like the idea in principle but am I going to port my own code and then deal with the ify support for AMD? Not in this lifetime CUDA has decades of refinement and has gained market dominance.. ROCm's tooling and driver stability is waay behind CUDA.. Consumer grade RDNA 4 isn't even fully supported as of ROCm 6.4 and all of AMD's APUs with Radeon 890M literally don't even work out of the box still waiting for community patches 🥸 Literally just ask anybody in AI and they'll tell you Nvidia all the way. There's no way in fuck that AMD is going to catch up with the decades Nvidia has had to saturate the market.. Try coding anything involving an LLM and you'll see CUDA is just assumed. Not that I'm saying AMD isn't a good investment too, but Nvidia spends its time optimizing and innovating while AMD just tries to catch up to what is already outdated by Nvidia standards.. because by the time AMD has a (glitchy) port for the newest library 🧗Nvidia has already released 2 newer versions 🪂
I randomly started mining a few weeks ago. Wasn't making crazy money, but enough for it to be worth it. Are we about to see another GPU rush?
To the best of our knowledge and expectations, quantum computers won't "crack" SHA-256 at all. That doesn't mean the quantum threat does not exist - the main issue is ECDSA. The scenario grok refers to as "cracking" SHA-256 is being able to run Grover's search on it, which gives a quadratic advantage in search. That means that to fully reverse a hash (find a preimage that hash to a specific hash) you need to do around 2^128 steps instead of 2^256 - but that is still unfeasible to do, will take more than the age of the universe even if we assume the QC is as fast as the fastest processors today. The problem of finding collisions (two preimages that hash to the same thing) is a bit easier, takes 2^128 steps classically and 2^64 with Grover's search - that is still mostly unfeasible, but not quite "age of the universe" level and could maybe be done if we get quantum computers *very* fast. But even in this case, it's easy to just move to SHA-512. The issue which is unique to Bitcoin is mining. In mining the miners do a partial reversal of SHA-256 (trying to hit a range of preimages) which is just hard enough for the whole network to do it in 10 minutes. A quantum computer gets a quadratic advantage on that partial reversal too, and since mining is competetive it won't need to be extremely powerful to dominate. Still you would need a much more powerful quantum computer than we currently have or expect to have in the coming decades, and you can't even effectively "join forces" from several quantum computers because Grover's search doesn't parallelize well. So it looks like this isn't a concern for a while, but when it is it looks like it would change the landscape of mining significantly (much more than the CPU->GPU->ASIC transition), mostly for the worse it seems for decentralization and robustness. It's unclear if any kind of proof-of-work we know can work well with quantum. Anyway the real problem which is more pressing is the ECDSA signature scheme, which is what is used in Bitcoin to sign transactions using a private key, such that they can be verified with the public key. This signature scheme is thought to be possible to crack with quantum computers - going from public key to private key. Now there are modern algorithms which are thought to be quantum resistant, but there are some issues with moving Bitcoin to use them - you need people to willingly migrate to a quantum resistant wallet, as they need a new private key from the new algorithm. It's of course tough to rally everyone and for some it would not even be possible as they lost access to their keys. Quite a few of the early wallets whose public key is exposed would become "quantum loot" and there is some discussion over whether to let it be stolen or freeze those finds. Another issue is that the signatures in quantum resistant algorithms are much larger, and that's an issue with block space already being a premium.
SHA-256 is not an encryption but a hash function, and it already is something that quantum computers cannot crack (to the best of our knowledge and expectations). The scenario grok refers to as "cracking" SHA-256 is being able to run Grover's search on it, which gives a quadratic advantage in search. That means that to fully reverse a hash (find a preimage that hash to a specific hash) you need to do around 2^128 steps instead of 2^256 - but that is still unfeasible to do, will take more than the age of the universe even if we assume the QC is as fast as the fastest processors today. The problem of finding collisions (two preimages that hash to the same thing) is a bit easier, takes 2^128 steps classically and 2^64 with Grover's search - that is still mostly unfeasible, but not quite "age of the universe" level and could maybe be done if we get quantum computers *very* fast. But even in this case, it's easy to just move to SHA-512. The issue which is unique to Bitcoin is mining. In mining the miners do a partial reversal of SHA-256 (trying to hit a range of preimages) which is just hard enough for the whole network to do it in 10 minutes. A quantum computer gets a quadratic advantage on that partial reversal too, and since mining is competetive it won't need to be extremely powerful to dominate. Still you would need a much more powerful quantum computer than we currently have or expect to have in the coming decades, and you can't even effectively "join forces" from several quantum computers because Grover's search doesn't parallelize well. So it looks like this isn't a concern for a while, but when it is it looks like it would change the landscape of mining significantly (much more than the CPU->GPU->ASIC transition), mostly for the worse it seems for decentralization and robustness. It's unclear if any kind of proof-of-work we know can work well with quantum. Anyway the real problem which is more pressing is the ECDSA signature scheme, which is what is used in Bitcoin to sign transactions using a private key, such that they can be verified with the public key. This signature scheme is thought to be possible to crack with quantum computers - going from public key to private key. Now there are modern algorithms which are thought to be quantum resistant, but there are some issues with moving Bitcoin to use them - you need people to willingly migrate to a quantum resistant wallet, as they need a new private key from the new algorithm. It's of course tough to rally everyone and for some it would not even be possible as they lost access to their keys. Quite a few of the early wallets whose public key is exposed would become "quantum loot" and there is some discussion over whether to let it be stolen or freeze those finds. Another issue is that the signatures in quantum resistant algorithms are much larger, and that's an issue with block space already being a premium.
What are you really securing if you're just locally computing hashes that will never realistically amount to a valid block in your lifetime? Fundamentally, any sort of fair validation mechanism lets you contribute roughly in line with the share you make up of overall network security. So there's a pigeon hole problem where with a limited amount of duties that need to be performed, you can either allow small contributors but have them wait forever for their turn or set a reasonable minimum and take contributions from everyone that meets it. PoW is fully probabilistic. There is technically no minimum, but there is also no guarantee. A tiny amount of hash power like a single GPU gets you a very small but non-zero possibility to mine a block, which is the only real duty in PoW. There is one block every 10 minutes, so to be of use to the network within a year for example, you should provide at least 1/50,000 of total hash power, which is going to be much more expensive than 32 ETH. Any extra hardware and electricity you need for this is also sunk cost, unlike the capital for PoS. Proof of stake has not only block proposals (which are also probabilistic based on stake), but other duties such as attestations. That way, each validator is guaranteed to contribute to consensus each epoch by attesting to blocks they deem valid. But you're right that there is a minimum of 32 ETH to contribute if you don't want to be part of a staking pool.
This is a broader question, so I’ll give my personal take. AI is great at spotting patterns in massive datasets, which makes it ideal for analyzing on-chain activity for example. It can flag malicious behavior, detect anomalies, or even optimize smart contract logic better than traditional tools. On the other hand, crypto gives people access to decentralized GPU networks like Akash or Nosana for example, letting anyone rent out compute and earn from it. AI benefits in turn from this availability. Together, they unlock a more open and efficient infrastructure where anyone can contribute, benefit, and build smarter systems without relying on Big Tech.
its super slow compared to other crypto that will handle transactions in seconds. its also a lot more expensive. just facts. you bought all these things with crypto because you are a delusional enthusiast and not because its convinient, cheap and fast. i can buy a GPU without any fees online. i can buy my burger with cash, with my credit card, with my debit card, with whatever i choose. without any fees at all. 99.9% people do not need cross border payments. and in europe its even free and literally instant. called SEPA, if you didnt know… bank transfers via Wise, Revolut, etc. do not take a week. just inform yourself about the fintech companies that have amazing services for travelers, expats and people that need to transfer money.
Particularly for larger transactions, its cheaper and faster than the banking system by far. What are you talking about? I've bought a GPU with it. I've bought a burger at a restaurant with it. I helped facilitate a payment for a buddy overseas who needed a niche car part. Banks would have taken a way higher percent of his $$ and it would have taken a week.
Technology is a “physical” thing/force/process, see CPU’s, GPU’s Motherboards, Servers, etc etc. BTC is a Digital Token, and Tokens, have been integrated into how “we” exist, how we function now and in the future, in conjunction WITH technology. Every single time that you login to a website, part of the authentication process is, issuing you a Token after your Identity has been verified. Tokens are not going away. They are an essential part of technology, now, and in the foreseeable future. BTC will NEVER Die or disappear, and if it does, so will WE ALL
Well my first buys were on Gox, then used Coinbase for retail purchases but have been mining since GPU days. I guess I just don't pay much attention to the trading side of this. For reference, my first BTC buys were at $110 and my first ETH buys were at $5.60
Hello and thank you for holding this AmA, As someone who uses AI daily at work your platform looks very interesting and obviously into crypto lol, my questions: 1. Can you expand more on decentralized GPU infrastructure? 2. Can you name a startup or a creator that's been using your platform and share some feedback they provided? 3. More about no-code fine-tuning the model? Or maybe share some tutorial video to learn more. Thank you!
Render over AVAX 3-6x, GPU is the narrative for the bull run. can’t believe I’m the only person that can actually answer what you’re asking and not shill eth or btc lol
Damn you couldn't be farther from the truth! It sounds to me like you're upset because you held all of your assets in ethereum and you didn't do your due diligence to actually research Solana and you wonder why the price has outpaced ethereum in the past few years. More people are consistently using Solana then all chains on ethereum combined. I've made a simple list for people that want the truth to dispute everything that you said because damn near everything that you said is a lie or misconstruted... 1. "Solana lied about the circulating supply" Correction: Solana did not lie, but mishandled the disclosure of a loan from the Solana Foundation to a market maker in 2020, which involved ~11.3 million SOL. This was a transparency issue, not an attempt to hide supply permanently. Once discovered, the foundation corrected it, published a public report, and burned the excess tokens shortly after. That’s not "hiding for years"—this was addressed within weeks of launch. Sources: Solana Foundation Response, 2020 --- 2. "TPS is around 300, not 50,000. Anything more is fake." Correction: Solana’s architecture is fundamentally different. It processes parallelized transactions using Sealevel, unlike Ethereum’s single-threaded EVM. Solana can process tens of thousands of non-overlapping transactions per second. The 50,000+ TPS figure includes vote transactions because Solana's consensus is deeply integrated with transaction flow. That’s not marketing trickery—it’s a function of the network design. It’s also incorrect to say "300 TPS" is the limit—on-chain data regularly shows 2000–4000+ TPS, excluding votes, in real time. Dropped transactions occur during congestion, which all chains experience, including Ethereum and even its L2s. TPS dashboard: Solana Beach TPS Tracker Validator.app TPS Stats --- 3. "Hyper-centralized validators that halt the chain" Correction: While Solana has ~2000 validators, not 1000, the active set is over 1300+, with more coming online. Coordination during a halt is not proof of collusion—it’s a strength, showing validators can resolve critical issues in a decentralized-but-efficient manner. The halts (which mostly occurred in 2022) were due to design flaws that Solana Labs has since addressed via upgrades like QUIC, local fee markets, and Firedancer (Jump Crypto's independent validator client). Ethereum’s Lido controls >30% of validator stake, and RocketPool & Coinbase hold more. Solana’s top 20 validators do not control the majority of stake, and no entity can unilaterally halt the chain. --- 4. "SOL inflation is 5–10% and worst in smart contract blockchains" Correction: This is false or outdated. Solana’s current inflation rate is 5.5%, decreasing by 15% per year until it reaches a long-term steady state of 1.5%. ETH had inflation >4% pre-Merge and >10% during the ICO boom (2017–2019). Since the Merge, Ethereum’s supply is sometimes deflationary, but not consistently, and ETH inflation is tied to gas activity, which also impacts user costs. Moreover, Solana has very low fees (fractions of a cent), so inflation is used to compensate validators. That’s a design tradeoff, not a flaw—unlike ETH, Solana doesn't require high fees to secure the network. --- 5. "All research and innovation comes from Ethereum; Solana just copies" Correction: This is baseless tribalism. Solana has pioneered multiple innovations, including: Sealevel (parallel VM execution) Proof of History (cryptographic clock to order transactions) QUIC-based communication Firedancer (new validator client with 600K TPS throughput) ZK Compression State Compression for NFTs and Accounts Ethereum has brilliant researchers, yes—but Solana is not a copycat. They explore fundamentally different scaling paths. ETH chooses modularity and rollups; Solana focuses on monolithic performance. --- 6. "Solana L1 has no plan to scale, so it’s copying L2s like Ethereum" Correction: This is backward. Solana was designed to scale at L1 from the beginning. L2s are being built on top of Solana by third parties (e.g., Nitro on SolanaVM, Eclipse), but they are not required for scalability. These L2s exist for experimentation and custom environments, not because Solana can’t handle demand. Solana still processes more raw transactions per second than all Ethereum L2s combined. Liquidity fragmentation is an active issue on Ethereum—many users are stuck between Arbitrum, Optimism, Base, zkSync, etc., and bridges are often risky. Meanwhile, Solana has shared state across all apps on L1, allowing atomic composability—a feature L2 ecosystems cannot replicate easily. --- 7. "Dangerous trade-offs put users at risk" Correction: This is vague and emotional. Every chain makes trade-offs. Ethereum: favors decentralization and modularity, but users pay $5–$50 per transaction. Solana: favors throughput and latency, with lower hardware requirements than people think (many validators run on ~$100/month bare-metal servers). Solana’s low-latency, high-throughput model is exactly what powers its growth in consumer apps, like: Helium (5G) Render (decentralized GPU) Hivemapper (real-world mapping) Dialect, Jupiter, Backpack, and more. These trade-offs are deliberate, and they serve real use cases.
Yeah wish I hadn't used my stash to buy a new GPU
You can just edit your original post, replace "GPU" with "ASIC", and all the confusion will go away.
by GPU I’m referring to parallel processing which ASICs do but GPU is more general. Semantics… Power could be more available over time but it is still a controlled utility and people can control where power is distributed. Third I bring things up because I did the homework. It’s not nonsense it’s critical. Bitcoin has several vulnerabilities that can be a threat to the network. You should be more critical if you care about it.
Bitcoin hasn't been mined by GPU for years. It's mined with specialized hardware (ASICs) that takes whole warehouses and lots of power to be truly profitable. It's centralization is concerning, but not because of GPUs and network security flaws.
Superior Transaction Speed and Throughput: Solana’s blockchain is designed for high performance, capable of processing up to 65,000 transactions per second (TPS) theoretically, with real-world averages around 2,700–3,000 TPS. This is significantly faster than Cardano’s current capacity of approximately 250 TPS, even with its Ouroboros consensus. Solana achieves this through its unique Proof-of-History (PoH) mechanism combined with Proof-of-Stake (PoS), which allows for parallel transaction processing and minimizes latency, making it ideal for high-throughput applications like DeFi and NFTs. Lower Transaction Costs: Solana offers some of the lowest transaction fees in the blockchain space, averaging around $0.0015 per transaction. In contrast, Cardano’s fees, while still lower than Ethereum’s, are higher than Solana’s, making Solana more cost-effective for users and developers, especially for microtransactions or high-frequency trading applications. This cost efficiency enhances Solana’s appeal for real-time, high-volume use cases. Innovative Proof-of-History Consensus: Solana’s PoH mechanism is a groundbreaking approach that acts as a cryptographic clock, enabling nodes to agree on the order of events without extensive communication. This streamlines the consensus process, allowing for faster transaction confirmation and higher scalability compared to Cardano’s Ouroboros PoS, which, while secure and energy-efficient, prioritizes academic rigor over speed. PoH gives Solana a unique edge in optimizing performance. Parallel Transaction Processing with Sealevel: Solana’s Sealevel technology enables parallel execution of smart contracts, allowing multiple transactions to be processed simultaneously across GPU cores. This contrasts with Cardano’s Plutus platform, which uses Haskell and focuses on formal verification but lacks the same level of parallel processing capability. Sealevel makes Solana particularly well-suited for complex, high-traffic applications like decentralized exchanges and gaming platforms. Stronger Adoption in DeFi and NFT Ecosystems: Solana has seen rapid adoption in decentralized finance (DeFi) and non-fungible token (NFT) markets, with a higher total value locked (TVL) compared to Cardano. Its fast transaction speeds and low fees have attracted developers to build robust ecosystems, including projects like Audius and NFT platforms backed by high-profile figures. Cardano, while growing, has been slower to develop its DeFi and NFT ecosystems, partly due to its delayed smart contract rollout in 2021. Developer-Friendly Ecosystem and Mobile Integration: Solana’s infrastructure is designed to be developer-friendly, supporting multiple programming languages and offering mobile-friendly tools for Web3 development. This flexibility has driven innovation and adoption among developers building high-speed applications. Cardano’s multi-layered architecture and use of Haskell can introduce complexity, making it less accessible for some developers and slowing feature rollouts compared to Solana’s more agile development environment
Kaspa (KAS) A proof-of-work based Layer 1 project with revolutionary BlockDAG technology - offers extremely fast transactions with full decentralization. Why interesting? • BlockDAG instead of Blockchain: Enables multiple blocks per second → extremely fast finality and high scaling without Layer 2. • Proof of Work 2.0: More environmentally friendly than classic PoW chains thanks to efficiency and simple hardware requirements (GPU mining friendly). • Pure decentralization: No premines, no VCs – completely community-driven. • Growing adaptation: Integration into wallets, exchanges and payment systems is increasing; new smart contract plans (Rust-based) are in development.
Fuck I miss POW coins White papers and GPU mining
This is only a problem for GPU hashes. For ASIC hashes like in Bitcoin, hurting the network makes all your ASIC’s worthless.
Yeah I just did asked AI the same thing. What I got was that Akash is more grounded right now (real compute, actual revenue, decentralized GPU hosting). But that FET plays a different role, more about autonomous agent infrastructure and longer term AI coordination. I don’t think it’s Akash over FET, I think they’re attacking different layers of the AI stack. If AI is the next big wave, both could eat. Just depends on what piece of it you believe in more.
It's because gamers hate Bitcoin because they drove up GPU sales for non-gaming purposes. (yes people still GPU mine for Bitcoin but it's via shitcoin mining and then trading it for btc). The majority have written it off as a scam and disregard its capability for liberty, and won't accept any other answer.
I mined for nearly 2 years on my $1000 GPU while it was still profitable. It was like printing money. Once those days were over, it became like any other investment.
Render is a company that allows users to borrow GPU power, think of it like an AirBNB for computers. Kaspa is basically Ethereum, Solana, Bitcoin, and Sui all in one. They use a ghostDAG protocol which is hard to explain, but other than that they have insane block speed, really good security and everything. They just need a few smart contracts and partnerships and they will boom up. Read the white papers to learn more
I was mining BTC using my cpu and a 256 mb GPU, generating 2 BTC every 3 days. I have stopped after about 3 weeks, don’t remember my wallet recovery, also I could have kept on mining and have a complete different life now 🥲
This hits all the right notes if you're into **low-cap coins with strong community vibes** and some *actual* utility. What makes $DOGPU interesting isn’t just the meme factor—it’s the combo of **GPU mining**, **fast block times**, and a genuinely fun ecosystem. If you’ve got a gaming PC just sitting around, the fact that you can mine it with a standard GPU (no crazy ASIC setup) is actually kind of refreshing. It feels like those early Dogecoin days—but with way better tech behind it. And while price predictions are always just guesses, that tiny starting price + active devs/community does make it one to watch. Especially if you’re into crypto that mixes *fun, function,* and a bit of “what if this actually takes off?” Wouldn’t ape in, but tossing some spare GPU power at it? Could be a fun ride.
Bought a burger with bitcoin last week at a restaurant. Bought a GPU from an online vendor with it as well last year.... when's the last time you used your 401k?
I read it again, but still dont get it. The buyer of the GPU has a totaly different name. Maybe a scammer could circomvent this by first selling an GPU and creating a new account on BISQ under the same name as the buyer and than search for a bitcoin seller who is offering exactly the same amount of bitcoin. Is this the way it took place?
Go for monero for cpu and something like Ethereum Classic for GPU.
You cannot mine Bitcoin with a GPU, sorry.
Attention! I got scammed on this method. Basically, the buyer send you money via wire, the btc is then released. After a few days or weeks, you are called by your bank that there is a charge back request and you are forced to return the money if you don’t provide any evidence that you sold a product, indeed. Which you didn’t. It can get even worse: I had a case when the scammer wanted to buy some bitcoin. Then, in the same time, he posted a sell announce on eBay or other similar platform that he is selling some high end GPU at a good price. He got a buyer. The scammer requested a btc buy with the same amount he requested for GPU. The GPU bayer received my bank account information of course and was told to send the money in order to reserve/deliver the GPU. I received the money - the bitcoin was released but the guy with the GPU got scammed. He requested charge back. Police involved of course.
Had 17 in 2018. Paid 0.5 for a GPU. The I tried to trade and multiply the rest. Fucked all
Oh don't worry, you won't be making any money. Not without investing in specialized hardware and running it long enough to pay for itself, if ever. You can use an old version of [cgminer](https://cgminer.info/) to just do some hashes on your GPU. Or, if you just want to know all about the process, [by hand](https://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html).
Yea I had a gigantic GPU in my desktop that was sitting idle all day and I heard about bitcoin, but I had "more important things" back then than spending a few hours figuring out how to set up a miner. I would have probably sold all of it at 1$ or something
If you already hold Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana and want to diversify into alts, consider spreading your extra capital across projects that power the Web3 ecosystem rather than chasing hype. Chainlink offers reliable on-chain data feeds that will only become more essential as DeFi and AI applications grow. Render provides decentralized GPU compute capacity, helping developers train and run models without exorbitant cloud fees. And Ocean Protocol’s Compute-to-Data model lets you share datasets securely while earning royalties through its Data NFT framework.
The summer of 2011 is when GPU mining first became more known. I wouldn’t be shocked if this guy mined all of these
If I was 23 again I would observe AI was added to my competition, ontop of women and immigrants. Easy to see they have to reset the fiat system since it is clearly on a runaway track. Just like pokemon cards, the value of BTC is in the purchaser's eye. In 1991 everyone thought upperdeck baseball / hockey cards were a wise investment. The only thing that was certain throughout human history was GOLD in your hand not that ETF crap. BTC is subject to the new system just as it is subject to fiat today. Your internet access can be restricted, your person can be cut off from fiat exchanges and currently BTC is getting wrapped up into the NWO. So if you do wind up having a bunch of it you will have to be a whore of the "golden age" system in order to use it. The days of trading BTC for hockey bags of cash are gone and the freedom we had is gone with it. So, observe your freedom is being further restricted each year, your competition is increasing with each deployed GPU and issued passport and everyone is getting less competent and less willing to uphold a system that keeps them fed due to rampant fraud and general degeneracy. Your call bud, but if I was 23 again, I'd start reading a bible.
The price of GPU’s finally go down
You are lucky, you don't have to regret. I could have mined 1 Million Bitcoins but I used the Nvedia GPU in my PC for playing WWE Raw vs Smackdown, GTA Games and Takken series on a PlayStation 2 Emulator. 🤫 For Bitcoin was a worthless gaming currency as per general perception in my circle and we never wasted our time in researching about it🫡☺️
Not in 2012. GPU mining was still viable in 2011 though.
I paid 7 BTC for a GPU back in 2012. No regrets.
Bought a GPU a couple weeks ago
It does feel like everything’s lining up—ETH’s role as settlement layer, stablecoin clarity, and institutional flow. I’m layering into Chainlink for oracle demand, Fetch .ai for autonomous agents, and keeping a stake in ocean protocol’s Compute-to-Data network. Adding some USDC yield for ballast and a small position in Render’s GPU grid too. That mix should capture both the short-term rally and long-term infrastructure growth.
I usually allocate around 5–10% of my total portfolio each month. That translates to roughly $2k–$3k right now split across Chainlink for oracles, Render for GPU compute, [Fetch.ai](http://Fetch.ai) for smart agents, and ocean protocol for secure data-compute credits. I keep a small stablecoin buffer for opportunistic buys, too. Curious what others are setting aside each month?
They had their chance to be the most popular GPU mined chain, but their devs ignored their shit difficulty adjustment rules and failed, ergo, no one cares
You would "invest" in it because it protects your holdings from your own countries currency devaluing. Just like you would with gold. We don't hold gold because it has an inherent use. We have enough gold harvested right now to fulfil our industrial needs for hundreds of years. Bitcoin isn't too inefficient to compete with other coins. It was specifically designed to be a means of p2p currency for the world's masses. Like buying a coffee in Somalia. The core group that controls the block size and efficiency won't budge because it will decrease mining profits. Therefore Satoshis vision was sabotaged for the greed of miners that took control. Partly due to the advent of Asics and these massive GPU banks that made it unrealistic for the average person with a computer to help the network and be compensated. I don't really blame the core group as it's more complicated than I'm laying out and we need the miners to keep the network secure. I'm just happy the Pandora's box of Bitcoin was opened so things like ethereum and Monaro could be released to still allow a currency of liberty for the world's masses. The fact is. Bitcoin was not meant to be an investment nor a store of value. It was a means to protect the world's masses from governments and banks ineptitude.
GPU mine a decent project. There is one.
No don't say that, I'm already in the camp that bought a GPU for 220 BTC in early 2011
I read an article about mining and decided to try, completely oblivious to the GPU shortages in 2017. Also bought $150 worth of xrp. The ripple took off to like 10x my investment in a few months and I thought I had an infinite money glitch. Turns out you have to sell to make money though.
I remember when they were in a heated battle against ATI for top GPU maker. Guess thats settled forever
brute force, using a GPU you can hundreds of millions of keys per second with software like [https://github.com/brichard19/BitCrack](https://github.com/brichard19/BitCrack) there are pools of people working together to do it.
Personally I think dca (bit by bit) might be a safer play while Bitcoin is near all time high. Although since the projected end game is Bitcoin price far surpassing 100k, it doesn’t matter too much. Strike is good. Just make sure your id is verified and you’re able to withdraw. A cold wallet is the only way to go for long term storage. I use Jade in stateless mode, much like a seedsigner hardware wallet. Mining is now primarily run on specialized ASIC hardware, not CPU or GPU in your computer. And you’d need a lot of asic and near free electricity to see any profitability, but something like bitaxe is a fun lottery miner.
I sold 13 BTC in 2015 on account of my divorce, now I wish I would have been a little less honest with the court about my assets... For f*@ks sake I had to explain to the mediator what it was and how it worked. I should have told them I was all in on my RonPaulCoin and AnonCoin while conveniently forgetting to tell them about Bitcoin. 😂. I doubt either of them still exist as a functioning blockchain and my poor bitcoins that I had mined mostly with my own GPU rig from 2012 to 2014 when I was spending more on electricity than I was making in return, despite joining a pool... Certainly it would have been easy to hide back then, especally since I had mined most of it or made profit from a certain defunct bazaar on the Internet. Could have, should have, would have! Now I am stacking Sats instead of coins. 😆 I also regret my $100,000 hard drive every time I see it, was from Overstock.com and cost me 1 BTC in 2015. 🥹
Yo frens, supply shock is real AF , whales scooping BTC off exchanges like it’s Black Friday. 🚨 Once BTC rips past 130k, alts gonna go parabolic, don’t get caught sleepin’. 👀 Two alts I’m loading bags on: 1. RNDR (Render) – AI + GPU power narrative is strong, and this thing moves like a beast in bull cycles. 2. FET (Fetch.AI) – Merging with Ocean + Singularity for the $ASI token? That’s major alpha, AI season ain’t over yet. 🔮 Strap in, we’re just getting started. 🚀
Thinking I was secure. Been in the space since I could mine BTC on a GPU. A couple weeks ago, my wallet was fucken cleaned out. My tin foil hate was large… but not large enough. Everything I worked for was stolen and I only have my self to blame.
Choosing to do SETI @ HOME over Bitcoin back when you could run it off a CPU/GPU.
This “bull” feels quiet because most of the action is under the hood, protocol upgrades, node deployments, and tool releases. We’re seeing real accumulation in Chainlink for oracle adoption, Render for GPU compute, and Fetch .ai for on-chain agents. Ocean Protocol’s Compute-to-Data network just hit 1.5 million nodes, and they’ve rolled out Data NFT v2 with royalty hooks. When infrastructure compounds quietly, it sets the stage for bigger moves down the line.
100% quantum proof? That's not a consensus issue, that's about signature schemes,it still uses ECDSA same as BTC, so no QR there. Hyperscale with no wallet upgrades? Where's the proof on that? The current GhostDAG doesn't scale globally without centralisation trade-offs, esp. factoring in latency sensitive propagation - All these claims about solving the trilemma are a bit dubious imo. Anyway, GPU mining is becoming more centralised due to economies of scale, just like BTC and ASICS. Your fast block rates increase bandwidth /syncing requirements favouring the big players with mega infrastructure - increasing centralisation... It promises a lot, but I'll wait until this DAG Knight is deployed/audited ....Is it in testnet?
Lol! Kaspa devs really said "what if Bitcoin, but with a DAG and none of the adoption?" Quickest PoW? Congrats, you made high-speed irrelevance. "Carbon-positive"? Maybe if your GPUs run on unicorn farts. Still no privacy, по smart contracts, no real usage just another coin chasing buzzwords while pretending it's not just GPU mining with extra steps.
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The hash difficulty will be adjusted according to the mining capacity; perhaps a simple GPU will get the job done.
Eth was awesome, you could mine 5 bucks a day with a mid range GPU, it was just awesome. And what did they do? Those greedy fucks switched it to proof of stake, so only the already rich ETH holders would earn all the the money for doing absolutely nothing. And they wonder why no one uses it or holds it when they dump 10s of millions every day.
Today's staking can all be done with a home level computer, I hope that future staking would still be possible to run at home level computer, even a GPU is needed If you separate the roles, then the decentralization will decrease dramatically, like Solana, no one with less than 100 million dollars can run their staking node profitably, similar to that they run a centralized database like Nasdaq
The idea is to have builder/proposer/attestor separation. This provides the most censorship-proof design. The block builder is not the validator, which only attests to the validity of the block. Only the block builders need a GPU or above. Validators only need to verify, and they should be able to do it on a smartphone when the technology is ready.
Dwarfed by people who mined? Pizza guy was the first GPU miner. He's currently a billionaire
Ok then if it ever makes its way to L1, validators would need 4090 level hardware to run staking independently? GPU mining days are back
This right here. I got into mining not necessarily to make money but to understand the tech better and what was going on behind the scenes. I started with an old GPU and quite frankly found it kind of addicting to build my rig and see how far I could push it, mining, different coins and things like that. I also cemented my knowledge on using command line arguments and working with the command line in general.
Been there, done that. We've had mining rigs set up in our basement since about 2018. It will really depend on your GPU etc. Very doubtful you'll have any success at all using an outdated laptop with likely onboard card. I wouldn't even bother . It creates a ton of heat, uses a lot of energy and you'll be competing with the pros for scraps.
Even with a GPU you're about 12 years too late
First, this isn't used by Ethereum L1, at least not until it gets native rollups. L2 zK rollups use it for their sequencers. The prover needs the GPU farm. The validator does not. They use ZK protocols where the proof is difficult to create but very easy to validate.
They use ZK protocols where the proof is difficult to create but very easy to validate. It's like kind of like Bitcoin mining where it costs $150k of energy to find a valid block but only costs $0.01 to prove that the block is valid. This is also specifically for zK proofs, which currently isn't used by Ethereum L1. L2 zK rollups use it for their sequencers. The prover needs the GPU farm. The validator does not. Ethereum devs are investigating using native rollups to compress its own L1 transactions using zK proofs for a 20x-50x increase in throughput. But that's years away.
"For context, existing setups require 50–160 GPUs to achieve a 12-second proof, depending on block size." So the current setup is only viable for GPU farms, then how does each ETH staking nodes require so little hardware spec today?
Even when I was mining in 2010 the returns were closer to 1-2 BTC per month for GPU mining. It still was really hardly worth it because you could just buy 2 BTC for $6
Man who ever told you that was dumb. That was peak GPU mining. ASICs were just starting to drop.
Looks like smart money is buying the dip while retail fears the next crash. Whales aren’t just stacking Bitcoin, they’re loading up on LINK for oracle demand, RNDR for GPU compute, and FET for AI agents. I’ve also quietly added ocean protocol as its node network tops 1.5 million and Compute-to-Data tools gain traction. When infrastructure projects catch a bid, the broader market usually follows.
Putting $450K of retirement money into a single crypto is a huge red flag. Staking ATOM carries slashing risk, variable yields, and no principal protection if prices tank. Better to cap crypto exposure at under 5%, diversify across low-cost funds or bonds, and preserve liquidity. Better to cap crypto at a small percentage, diversify into Link for oracles and RNDR for GPU compute, and keep plenty of safe, liquid assets. Encourage your friend to consult a certified financial planner before moving parents’ nest egg into any volatile asset.
Quiet consolidation often points to smart money accumulation. Exchange balances are down while long-term holders keep stacking, and on-chain data shows whales quietly adding near these levels. I’m watching LINK for oracle demand, RNDR as GPU grids scale, FET for AI agent use, and Ocean Protocol for its growing node network and compute-to-data tools. When rotation back to alts happens, projects with live infrastructure tend to lead.That’s where the next real breakout could come from.
Meme coins spike on viral hype and easy entry, driving fast but unstable gains . Utility tokens grow with real adoption, think oracles, GPU networks, and smart-contract marketplaces. Chainlink, Render, and Fetch are moving slower but with solid on-chain usage. Ocean Protocol is quietly deploying over 1.5 million nodes, rolling out Compute-to-Data tooling, and launching Data NFTs with automated royalties. When capital rotates back to fundamentals, projects that ship real infrastructure almost always lead the next leg up.
You're absolutely right — realistically, scanning such huge ranges on a phone isn't practical. Mobile apps like mine are more for learning, experimentation, and exploring how keyhunt-style scanning works. In real-world puzzle-solving, tools like KeyHunt (CPU-based) or BitCrack (CUDA/GPU-based) on desktops are statistically far more capable. **For example:** 📱 Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite → \~100 keys/second 📱 Poco X3 Pro → around 3–4× faster than that (\~300–400 keys/second) On a modern PC with proper GPU support, you can easily reach millions of keys per second. So yeah — the mobile version isn’t for serious cracking, but it helps visualize and test ideas while on the go But hey — maybe you're just *really* lucky 🍀 Might be worth a try, right?