ETF

JimBoukie

Put it into a TFSA ETF, guaranteed 8% return year over year. Reinvest the interest every year and let it compound.

LuckyWinds

> Bro its an etf to collect fees, not some 4d chess crypto fantasy This is a pretty uninformed take. A lot of people clearly are new here. Bitcoin is becoming mainstream in the financial world. This would have been unheard of just a few years ago. And now the fastest growing ETFs of all time are Bitcoin. The largest asset manger's most profitable ETF? Bitcoin That single bitcoin ETF was ranked #3 in terms of inflows across ALL ETFs in the USA. Only being beaten by VOO and IVV. And people act like this isn't a big deal....

Romanizer

ETF net flows only went down by 12% while Bitcoin went down 50%. They are more diamond hands than holders outside of that.

harl_vann

That is true. But the point I’m trying to make is that a memecoin has the potential to become more than a short term fad, For example, Canary Capital has filed an S-1 registration statement with the SEC for a spot PEPE ETF, marking a significant expansion of meme coin financial products following DOGE initiatives. This move aims to bring institutional investment to the PEPE token, which is currently consolidating within a broader downtrend but showing signs of potential recovery.

Romanizer

First, it's an ETF product. Then, it becomes collateral and finally it becomes the balance sheet anchor for liquidity creation.

BitcoinBaller420

New Bitcoin ETF from Morgan Stanley has a successful launch, Bitcoin up hundreds of bps, fear and greed at 17... lol

cashflashmil

Lately I’ve been reading WebSnack for that. It’s a daily crypto newsletter covering Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, market sentiment, and the broader crypto market context. Much easier than trying to piece everything together from random posts and headlines.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Morgan Stanley launched the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust (MSBT) on NYSE Arca on April 8, 2026, becoming the first major U.S. bank to issue a spot Bitcoin ETF under its own name. The fund holds physical bitcoin, tracks the CoinDesk Bitcoin Benchmark, and charges a market-low 0.14% annual fee. Analysts say Morgan Stanley’s vast advisor network could help MSBT gather significant assets, intensifying competition and fee pressure in the spot Bitcoin ETF market. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

ItsPickles

Prob jus dipshit ETF holders

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Post is by: cashflashmil and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: https://websnack.org/news/morgan-stanley-msbt-spot-bitcoin-etf-apr-2026 Morgan Stanley has officially launched MSBT, a spot Bitcoin ETF listed on NYSE Arca. What makes this more interesting than a normal product launch is that this is the first major U.S. bank putting its own name directly on a spot Bitcoin ETF. The fund holds physical bitcoin, launched on April 8, and comes in with a 0.14% fee, which undercuts most of the existing spot BTC ETF field.  To me, the bigger story is what this says about where Bitcoin sits now in traditional finance. Up to this point, most of the major spot ETFs came from asset managers like BlackRock, Fidelity, and others. Morgan Stanley changes that dynamic because it brings a bank balance sheet, a private wealth brand, and a massive advisor network into the same trade. The article notes roughly 16,000 financial advisors overseeing $6.2 trillion in client assets, which is a very different kind of distribution channel than retail-driven ETF demand.  The fee also matters more than people think. At 0.14%, Morgan Stanley is basically telling the market this product is meant to compete seriously for long-term allocation, not just exist as another checkbox product. That kind of pricing usually means they expect Bitcoin exposure to become a persistent part of client portfolios, not a temporary trade.  So the real question here isn’t just whether MSBT gets flows. It’s whether this is another sign that Bitcoin is moving deeper into core portfolio infrastructure and away from being treated as a niche satellite asset. Curious how others see it: is this mainly a fee war and distribution story, or does a major bank launching its own spot Bitcoin ETF mark a more important shift in how traditional finance now views BTC? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Cartier1847

It will take a while before MSBT is available outside the US. It’s not even trading on the global NYSE platform yet. The 16k and $9.3T numbers have no bearing to this ETF.

CyroSwitchBlade

I have been having a feeling that the new Morgan Stanley Bitcoin ETF could be kind of a big deal.. I am going to get some in my Etrade account tonight just to show support.

777GUNMETALGREY

The exposure is already there mate. BTC ETF spots kicked off in 2021, Then ramped up for your big players like blackrock, fidelity, ark etc in 2024.

Premium_Hunter

Could buy long dated options on an ETF. The problem will be if BTC stays down for an extended time they will bleed out eventually. However, if you feel confident BTC will rise over the next 2 years it’s a way to juicy the gains. Nothing is risk free.

TheresNoSecondBest

Start with the [Whitepaper](https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper), mate. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Putrid_Pollution3455

The easiest way is to just buy the spot price ETF in a regular brokerage account… Unless you plan on actually making transactions with it, then the second easiest is to buy it on a central exchange. Maybe even your brokerage would allow you to do that… And finally the old-school way is to actually figure out how to build a cold wallet and all that fun stuff.

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LiquidityCompass

Feels like everyone’s focused on levels, but it’s really about conditions. If ETF flows hold and liquidity doesn’t tighten, $80k makes sense. If yields rise or flows slow, $60k is still very possible. If we hit $80k, what’s more likely next — $100k or back to $60k?

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tldr; Morgan Stanley’s spot bitcoin ETF, the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust (ticker: MSBT), is set to begin trading on the NYSE on April 8. It will be the first BTC ETF launched by a major U.S. commercial bank and will be distributed across about 16,000 Morgan Stanley financial advisors overseeing $6.2 trillion in client assets. The fund will charge a 0.14% fee, lower than BlackRock’s IBIT by 11 basis points. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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Post is by: DanielCrossDXB and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sfetg0/why_localcurrency_stablecoins_might_matter_more/ Feels like one of the more important things happening in crypto right now isn’t another token launch or another ETF headline, it’s local currency rails quietly getting built. Watching what’s happening around AED-linked stablecoins made me think about this more seriously. If a place like the UAE starts moving toward real local-currency blockchain infrastructure, that feels like a bigger shift than most of the usual crypto noise. Not because it’s exciting on Twitter, but because it starts touching actual money movement, payments, settlement, and trust. That’s when crypto starts moving away from pure speculation and closer to financial plumbing. To me that matters more than people think, especially for traders and exchanges. Better local rails eventually affect how money gets in and out, how friction drops, and which platforms actually feel usable versus just tradable. Curious how others see it. Are local-currency-backed stablecoins actually a bigger deal than the market gives them credit for, or is this still mostly branding for now? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

BitcoinMD

NCIQ ETF. Mostly Bitcoin but the other top coins in proportion to their market cap. Basically a crypto index fund.

Todo_es

Nice: "Morgan Stanley’s spot Bitcoin ETF appears set to begin trading Wednesday after the SEC declared the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust effective and the bank filed its final prospectus. Bloomberg ETF analyst Eric Balchunas said in a post on X that the fund looks set to go live April 8, citing a screenshot of the NYSE listing notice. The trust is expected to trade on NYSE Arca under the ticker MSBT. The filing confirms Morgan Stanley is entering the crowded US spot bitcoin ETF market with a physical product that will hold Bitcoin directly and track the CoinDesk Bitcoin Benchmark 4 PM NY Settlement Rate. The trust will not use leverage, derivatives, or active trading to try to outperform Bitcoin. The product also arrives with aggressive pricing. Morgan Stanley disclosed a 0.14% annual delegated sponsor fee, which is below the 0.25% level charged by BlackRock’s IBIT and lower than most major spot Bitcoin ETFs currently on the market. Morgan Stanley said BNY and Coinbase Custody Trust Company will serve as Bitcoin custodians for the trust. The prospectus also says the initial seed creation baskets are expected to total about $1 million, with 50,000 shares created ahead of listing. This is a notable step because Morgan Stanley became the first major US bank to file for spot Bitcoin and Solana ETFs in January, marking a deeper push into crypto investment products by a traditional finance firm. Morgan Stanley also plans to offer Bitcoin, Ether, and Solana trading through E*Trade in the first half of 2026 through a partnership with Zerohash."

Disraelo2

ETF that is backing based on BTC or crypto.

Alfador8

No, some will consider the tax implications of selling their current ETF holdings and decide it isn't worth a few basis points in fees. Some people still hold GBTC because of this.

Henry_old

Morgan Stanley ETF launch: Institutional liquidity is here. Great for volume, but expect tighter spreads. Retuning my sniper bots for the "Wall Street" sessions. Massive liquidity spikes incoming. Get your API keys ready

BaldBear_13

all this makes ETF sound so much easier ... But do not get worked up, I will get a real wallet, just for the challenge of it, when I have time, and energy.

cashflashmil

If it were someone in my family, I wouldn’t start with random crypto picks at all. I’d probably say: Most of the money goes into broad index ETFs first. If they specifically want crypto exposure, keep it small and start with Bitcoin. Maybe some Ethereum later, but only after they understand what they’re buying. That’s the honest answer. For a beginner, the biggest mistake is thinking the question is “which coin will do best?” Usually the better question is “what can I hold through volatility without panicking and making bad decisions?” If I care about the person, I’m not giving them a speculative altcoin. I’m giving them something simple, liquid, and proven enough that they can actually sleep at night. So if I had to make it practical: 80–90% broad ETFs 10–20% Bitcoin and only add more complexity after they’ve spent time learning how markets actually behave. That’s also why I think it helps to follow the market in a structured way before making bigger decisions. WebSnack is pretty good for that. It’s a daily crypto newsletter covering Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, market sentiment, and the bigger narratives moving crypto. It’s useful if someone wants to understand the space without drowning in noise.

Dellis251984

And I predict a Bottom around $37,500 - $45,000. They will bring it down close to where ETF's were approved and live which was around $35,000 if I am remembering correctly. But not so close that people in those ETF' see no use in that ETF.

devCheckingIn

Rather significant ETF inflows for BTC yesterday. That probably explains the pump.

PuzzleheadedBell4057

An S&P 500 Index ETF is the 1st investment I would suggest to anyone new to investing. I would not suggest any Crypto as it's an asset that's very volatile. You need more time to find out what your risk tolerance is. Get your sea legs wet first. Learn a little about the markets. Definitely learn about Dollar Cost Averaging (if you have a 401k you're already practicing it and you probably don't even know it). Take a couple of years to help you get use to market gyrations. That time will help you get use to the short term possibility of seeing an account balance worth less than the money you have invested - i.e. a loss. If you feel you must be invested in Crypto, invest in Bitcoin, but make it a small part of your portfolio, 5 - 10% for the 1st couple of years. This is the advice I would give to a family member that's just beginning to invest

LiquidityCompass

If you were my family I’d honestly keep it simple… some broad ETF + a bit of BTC and just leave it alone. And seriously, avoid day trading at all costs. Most people just end up losing everything doing that. Biggest thing is to start learning first — understanding what you’re investing in matters way more than trying to be early or clever. Are you looking more for steady growth or higher risk/higher upside?

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Financial_Vanilla_47

Nah you are just in denial that this is a miner capitulation and strategy/ETF insolvency driven breakdown because you won't admit it until it starts to actually happen but it probably won't happen until BTC is below 30k and by then it's too late and only the people who admit and and move on at some point survive.

Calm-Professional103

Are you referring to the Purpose BTC ETF?

PuzzleheadedBell4057

2017. Reading various articles. I didn't know much about Bitcoin but thought it was something I should be adding to my portfolio. Found out the brokerage I was using at the time (E-Trade) provided a BTC trust that I could invest in (Grayscale GBTC - it's an ETF now) for exposure. DCAed into the trust for about a 1-1/2 years while I learned the ins and outs of BTC. Moved to cold storage in 2019.

North-Cry-7815

Feels like momentum is building again, but calling it a “boom” might be early. BTC + ETF flows are strong signals, but macro (rates, regulation) still matters. Probably more of a gradual uptrend than instant hype cycle.

MarcusCollective

Depends entirely on your time horizon. If you're asking about the next 30 days nobody knows. If you're asking about the next 3 years the data is pretty compelling. Fear and Greed has been below 15 for 46 consecutive days. The last time sentiment stayed this low for this long was near the 2022 cycle bottom. Bitcoin has also held $65,800 support through the entire stretch which is meaningful — price is diverging from sentiment. The macro headwinds are real. Fed is hawkish, Iran tensions keeping oil elevated, institutional ETF outflows in March. Those don't disappear overnight. But historically the best entries have always felt like the worst time to buy. The people asking this question in October 2022 at $16K were getting the same answers.

ReadingTheSign23

If they’re not tech savvy, ETF is honestly way easier. It just behaves like a normal investment account, no wallets, no seed phrases, no stress about messing something up. They can check it like any other stock. CEX is fine too, but you’re still dealing with accounts, transfers, maybe confusion around sending and fees. That’s usually where people get stuck. Really comes down to whether you want them to actually hold BTC or just get exposure. For most parents, simple usually wins.

Romanizer

If that intention is coming from your parents and they know what they get into and can handle the volatility, they should use the ETF.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Zestyclose_Cheek527

Cmon we all know what will happen to bitcoin if ETF holding becomes normalized

u_spawnTrapd

If they’re not tech savvy, ETF is honestly the smoother experience. It just looks like any other stock in a brokerage account, so checking price and buying more feels familiar. CEX works too, but even the simple ones still have extra steps like transfers, 2FA, wallet stuff if they ever go that route. That’s usually where people get stuck or nervous. I’d think about whether they actually care about holding the BTC directly. If not, ETF is way less friction. If yes, then pick the simplest exchange possible and maybe walk them through it once so they’re not guessing later.

mrestiaux

If you’re in Canada - ShakePay will give you spread free recurring buys. If you’re in the states- that’d be strike. That being said, the easiest, most care free way is the ETF.

merdekabelajar

I think since the ETF introduced we already at bottom somehow. But still this year will be bearish and next year bullish

Dettol-tasting-menu

I think we are on the same page just reading from a different angle. No one should keep their sats on exchanges. Period. Most people are aware of its risks by now. But then they go the other way and buy ETFs instead. Neither is a good option. The risks of holding ETF is less obvious and many people even think ETFs are a “better” way to HODL. Strong disagree. The whole point of Bitcoin is “permissionless decentralized censorship resistant money”. That’s what gives Bitcoin its value in the first place. If everyone buys ETFs and call it the day, Bitcoin get lock up in the custodian dungeons and never get sent P2P, then it will no longer have any value. Scarcity alone won’t cut it. Scarcity must also come with utility for something to be valuable.

Dettol-tasting-menu

Yes. ETF is also the worst from self sovereignty standpoint. It’s buried within layers of custodians and Authorized Participants and redemption mechanisms and even after the so called “redemption”, you’d only get fiat back. The bitcoin involved won’t see the light of day again. Exchanges, for all their fragility and shortcomings, are just one step away from true self custody. Just one withdrawal request and boom you get real sats in your wallet.

riscten

Agreed, except I'd swap the first two levels. Bitcoin on an exchange is IMHO the absolute worst way to hold. It's all the downsides of cryptocurrency with all the downsides of traditional banking. With the ETF you at least get the benefit of having your money protected by the FDIC.

atlasayn

The cycle isn't dead but it's getting noisier. We track this with a multi-factor approach: MVRV, days since halving, ATH drawdown, 200W SMA distance, and supply in profit %. By those metrics we're in a POST-PEAK / LATE-CORRECTION zone — not the clean "up only" mid-cycle most people expect. The real shift is macro coupling. BTC/SPX correlation swings between 0.55 (moves with stocks) and near-zero (independent). When coupling is high, a Fed decision matters more than halving supply math. When it's low, on-chain metrics dominate. Knowing which regime you're in matters more than whether "the cycle" exists. The 4-year structure probably persists as a loose framework, but the amplitude and timing are getting distorted by ETF flows, institutional rebalancing, and macro regime shifts. The cycle is real. The clockwork precision people expect from it is not.

Dear-Director-6043

I feel like very few people are talking about the lack of structural damage from this drawdown. Last bear market, SBF was convicted as a fraud, exchanges were liquidated, and there weren’t any real catalysts to pull it out for years. Now we have had no bankrupted exchanges (yet!), clarity act and institutional adoption is picking up daily (Morgan Stanley ETF, Franklin Templeton) clacclarClarity Act

joos_hubert

Mostly yes. Crypto news can move Bitcoin for a few hours, but the bigger moves still seem to come from dollar liquidity, rates, ETF flows, and general risk appetite. The crypto-specific stuff matters more when it changes the long-term demand story, otherwise macro usually wins.

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TheresNoSecondBest

Read this, mate. Come back with any questions. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

More-Ad-2831

You are correctly identifying your biggest threat (Operational Risk / Human Error), but your proposed solutions walk you directly into an even bigger threat: Systemic Counterparty Capture. If you move your BTC to Kraken or an ETF (IBIT), you are legally executing a downgrade in property rights. Under current commercial code (UCC Article 8), an ETF or exchange balance is not 'your' Bitcoin. It is a 'Security Entitlement.' You are demoting yourself to an Unsecured Creditor. If the custodian faces a liquidity crisis or a 'bail-in,' the secured creditors (derivative counterparties) have legal super-priority to sweep the pooled collateral. You get what's left. You are trading the risk of a lost seed phrase for the risk of institutional confiscation. There is a third option you are missing: You don't need an ETF; you need Collaborative Custody (like Unchained or Casa). It’s a 2-of-3 Multisig vault. You hold 2 keys, they hold 1. If you lose a key while living your nomad lifestyle, you aren't wiped out. The firm uses their 3rd key to help you recover the vault. But because they only have 1 key, they can never move, lend, or seize your Bitcoin. It solves your 'mismanagement' anxiety without surrendering your property rights to Wall Street. Don't trade atoms for paper IOUs."

cashflashmil

In my view, yes - Bitcoin is still reacting more to liquidity than to most crypto-specific news. Crypto headlines can create short-term volatility, but the larger moves usually come from the bigger backdrop: liquidity conditions, rate expectations, ETF demand, and overall risk appetite. If that macro setup is weak, even bullish crypto news tends to fade quickly. If the backdrop improves, the market can absorb almost any narrative and still move higher. That’s why I pay more attention to market context than to isolated headlines. WebSnack is useful for that. It’s a daily crypto newsletter focused on Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, and the main narratives moving the market, which makes it easier to separate noise from what is actually driving price.

cashflashmil

Yeah, I think crypto did overprice the narrative. A lot of people weren’t pricing in actual policy. They were pricing in a simplified story: pro-crypto messaging = bullish market. But markets rarely work that cleanly. Even if the political tone becomes more favorable, crypto still trades inside a much bigger framework: macro liquidity, rates, regulation, risk appetite, ETF flows, and overall positioning. That’s why the follow-through has felt weak. The narrative sounded bullish, but the market still had to deal with real conditions, and those conditions were not fully supportive. This happens a lot in crypto. People latch onto a headline, build a whole thesis around it, and then forget that price usually responds to capital flows, not campaign language. My view is: Trump-related optimism probably helped sentiment at first, but it was never enough on its own to carry the market. If liquidity and broader macro don’t confirm the move, the narrative eventually fades. That’s also why I prefer following structured market breakdowns over political hot takes. WebSnack is good for that because it tracks Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, and crypto narratives in a way that makes it easier to separate what sounds bullish from what is actually moving the market.

CallMeMista96

Totally with you on riding this out. These low fear index dips are where conviction gets tested the most. If we're getting regulatory clarity and steady ETF flows during literal missiles flying, that's not a sign to bail. I'm letting my risk models call the shots right now (been using AlphaSquared for position sizing, helps kill the second-guessing), so I'm still scaling in while everyones tripping over headlines. choppy markets are where you build the next move anyway.

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Extreme-Benefyt

If you want actual BTC (not an ETF), Bull Bitcoin or Bitcoin Well are solid since they push self-custody. Shakepay is convenient, but you pay for it in the spread unless you stick to their recurring buy setup. :)

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

LeprechaunSayYea

To many Haters here Look. **The "Unbreakable" Bear Case: April 2026** * **The "Energy Toll Booth" Theory**: * **Strait of Hormuz**: With the closure potentially lasting until mid-April, oil is stuck near **$100–$106/barrel**. * **Disposable Income Drain**: As you noted, $5 gas isn't just an inconvenience—it's a direct "tax" on the retail liquidity that Bitcoin needs to pump. If people are choosing between a tank of gas and 0.001 BTC, they choose the gas every time. * **The Weekend Liquidity Gap**: * Institutional ETF trading (BlackRock, Fidelity) stops on Friday. This leaves the price in the hands of "exhausted" retail traders on Saturdays and Sundays. * Historical 2026 data shows an average **3.17% drop** over weekends, making your short position statistically more likely to print while the "bulls" are asleep. * **The 12–18 Month "Post-Peak" Trap**: * Bitcoin peaked at **$126,000 in October 2025**. * Historically, the "most painful" part of the bear cycle occurs 12–18 months after the peak. This puts the ultimate "capitulation bottom" squarely in **late 2026**. * Your **$45,000 target** aligns perfectly with the **0.85 MVRV ratio**—a metric that has called every major cycle bottom in Bitcoin's history. * **Institutional "Exit Liquidity"**: * While the "moon boys" talk about the ETF floor, U.S. spot Bitcoin ETFs actually saw **over $6 billion in net redemptions** between November and February. * Institutions aren't "HODLers"—they are profit-takers. If they see a recession confirmed, they will sell to protect their balance sheets, and they will sell faster than any retail trader can. # Reddit "Hornet's Nest" Talking Points 1. **April 15 is a Sell Event**: People have to pay taxes on their 2025 gains. They aren't buying more; they're selling to avoid the IRS. 2. **The "Halving" is Priced In**: The 2024 halving is long gone. The supply shock already happened, and the market has already moved on to worrying about **global stagflation**. 3. **ETF Inflows have Stalled**: The "wall of money" has turned into a "trickle of doubt" as geopolitical risks replace momentum as the main driver.

TheScientistVampire

Buy a bitcoin ETF like Ibit

DeckIan

Yeah, i'll probably buy some ETF on IBKR Thanks for ur message

OldHamburger7923

I'm cherry picking, but: Bitcoin (BTC): from $16,688.85 on Jan 3, 2023 to $66,098 now. That is +296.1%, or about 3.96x. Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO): from $349.99 on Jan 3, 2023 to $602.30 now. That is +72.1%, or about 1.72x.

vpae

I agree self-custody is the way to go but everyone has a different risk tolerance. In a worst case scenario, if your house burned down, do you still have access to your seed? If so, maybe you’re okay keeping it the same. If not, maybe you need to find a better way to back that up or maybe an exchange or ETF can give you that peace of mind you’re obviously concerned about. You could always diversify and go 50/50 or 33/33/33. If you died tomorrow, can someone else access your coins? What’s the plan there? You can set a beneficiary on an ETF. Not so much for an exchange and I don’t know what you have in terms of a will.

Saibazz

This is better, ETF in bitcoin can't control the price now, because sometimes whale's playing the chart even a crypto exchange

Additional-Plant4004

Yes I just got my T3 today from Wealthsimple for FBTC in my non-registered account in Canada and I owe capital gains of around 2% of the value as of Dec 2025 (haven't sold anything). "Based on final reports for the 2025 tax year, the Fidelity Advantage Bitcoin ETF (FBTC) announced an annual reinvested capital gain of **$0.84031 CAD per unit** as of December 15, 2025"

FunnyNo8982

Better , now ETF can’t control the price the same level as they could .. perfect

LiquidityCompass

Good headline, but flows matter more than one print. $1.3B inflow after $6.3B outflows isn’t a trend yet — it’s a shift attempt. If this continues → real liquidity is turning. If not → just positioning noise. Liquidity moves first, price reacts. Are we seeing sustained ETF demand… or just a temporary bounce?

banica24

I appreciate you so much. I can't wait to learn this, it's so overwhelming already of resources and options 😭 but I think it's important to consume over time. You broke it down pretty good. I didn't see Coinbase in the list of ETF places. Is Coinbase pretty bad with fees? Or it's for normies and the real pros use the "proper exchange"?

Rez_X_RS

BTC moves like a leveraged nasdaq ETF

Stock-Courage-3879

There's rarely a perfect time to start and waiting for things to calm down usually means missing the move. Since you're used to ETFs the easiest entry point is probably a Bitcoin ETF. There are spot BTC ETFs available now that work exactly like what you already know. BlackRock's IBIT is the most popular one. If you want to hold Bitcoin, Coinbase or Kraken are good starting points. Just make sure you're not putting in more than you're okay watching drop temporarily because that happens and it's normal with BTC. Start small, learn as you go, and don't check the price every hour.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

InvestAISavvy

This is the part that doesn't get talked about enough. A 60-year-old and a 28-year-old both independently arriving at the same conclusion from completely different life situations. That's not a coincidence — that's a signal. The social data is backing this up too. Institutional accumulation hasn't slowed down despite BTC being 45% off its October highs. MicroStrategy, the ETF flows, even some sovereign wealth funds are quietly adding. Meanwhile retail sentiment has been getting more bearish week over week. That gap between what big money is doing and what the crowd is feeling is exactly the kind of divergence I pay attention to. OP's got the one thing most people don't — time. At 28 with a 5-6 year horizon, he's not even playing the same game as the people panicking about weekly candles.

ClixelOfficial

The hashrate recovery is a healthy sign. People were quick to panic about miners pivoting to AI but the reality is most large operations are diversifying revenue, not abandoning mining. The difficulty adjustment mechanism keeps working exactly as designed — when marginal miners drop off, it gets easier for the rest, which pulls hashrate back up. The ETF outflow narrative is interesting too. Four weeks of inflows followed by one week of outflows isn't a trend reversal — it's normal institutional rebalancing.

Moon_Shakerz

If you're putting 20k a month into some sort of broad market ETF then 2500 sounds fine for crypto. If all of your investments are in crypto you could be in for a rude awakening. You'll be guaranteed over time to make money with something like VOO or VTI. With crypto there is a chance it could go to 0 and you've lost everything. Sure, it could also go up so it's worth investing in if you want to but don't put all of your eggs in 1 basket. 10% of your portfolio in crypto would be considered aggressive. If you want to be ultra aggressive then go 25% in crypto but anything more than that is just crazy.

F4NT4SYF00TB4LLF4N

**4 Bitcoin infrastructure developments this month that nobody is talking about:** 1. **CFTC no-action letter** — Futures Commission Merchants can now accept BTC as margin collateral. Treats Bitcoin on par with cash in derivatives markets. 2. **Joint SEC/CFTC formal taxonomy** — BTC officially classified as a digital commodity, not a security. Published to the Federal Register. The legal ambiguity that B/D compliance departments have hidden behind for years is gone. 3. **Coinbase + Better Home Finance — Fannie Mae-conforming BTC mortgages** — Bitcoin accepted as down payment collateral on conforming loans. No margin calls. No liquidation on price movement. Bitcoin is now collateral in the US housing finance system. 4. **Morgan Stanley files MSBT at 0.14% — the cheapest BTC ETF** — First major bank to issue its own spot Bitcoin ETF directly. 16,000 advisors. $6.2T in client assets. Bloomberg's ETF analyst noted the low fee "means none of Morgan Stanley's advisors would feel conflicted recommending it to clients." Launch expected early April pending SEC approval. None of these moved price meaningfully. All of them are structural. The plumbing for institutional mass adoption is being laid in real time.

WeakEstablishment686

Yea fully agree here. You’re young based on the Uni comment so you have time on your side. This means everything you stack now has decades to compound which is the number 1 factor for building wealth. If you get too cute trying to play with options or leverage (eg mstr), you add in infinite decisions, might actually lose some principal, and likely won’t beat just stacking BTC. I would also highly suggest you have at least a portion of wealth in a simple total stock market ETF like VTI or VT if you don’t already. I’m all for Bitcoin but you always need some level of safer growth, which a total stock market ETF provides.

2xfun

Retail interest was gone during the last cycle… it was complete apathy and a let down for everyone. What we’ve seen was capital rotation from one ETF to another (the one with the lower fees), bitcoin becoming political a hence loosing half of the retail (because of political polarization). All the bullish news were not enough to have a significant price impact during the cycle. I ask you now on a brink of a financial colapse: what will be the catalyst ?

Forded_Fiction24

I definitely don't have access to it in my 401k. Also just because they allow it legally doesn't mean every employer-sponsored 401k is going to add it as an option. My employer is pretty progressive but they choose to give generous matching as opposed to having the most comprehensive of fund options within our 401k so I wouldn't be surprised if I never see it added. A combo of self-custody BTC and Roth held BTC ETF's will suffice though if I never see it and maybe the better option anyways

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Lavayo

I never was opposed to BTC but indifferent and skeptical. I could have been around early. I was a tech savvy mid 20 with exposable income, I heard a multiple hour long podcast about BTC in 2011. But I did not buy any and lost track. From time to time it appeared again on my radar, mainly through mentions in other podcasts etc. Remember spcifically that I was amazed when it hit the $1000 barrier, I thought this could not last. I inhereted fiat in 23/24 and had to really decide what to do with it. I got in after the ETF pump, I think the media presence at that time helped a lot, don't know if I would have seriously considered it back then if it had been the start of a bear market. Read and learned a lot since then though so I'm sleeping well right now. Impatience is human though. ;)

thistimelineisweird

I won't be surprised if many people will move to hold some amount of BTC in a 401k due to the tax advantage of buying there or simply as a diversification hedge. Hell, my partner and I have a nominal percentage of our 401k portfolio in BTC ETF, too. But also, the liquid supply (coins that actually move in any given year) is, what, probably less than 10 million right now? So if 70 million people have 401ks >$100k and some percentage of those buy a nominal amount, that could add up fast. Wouldn't take much for a subset of 401k accounts buying even just 0.1 or 0.05 BTC to snatch a large amount of circulating supply and influence price.  I'm not saying this will happen. I just did some napkin math to see what would be required and it isn't really that much.

101blockchains

Yeah it's real. 2026 isn't like 2021 hype - institutional money's actually flowing in. **ETF impact (historic)** January 2024: SEC approved 11 spot Bitcoin ETFs (BlackRock, Fidelity, ARK). ETFs now hold 1.29M BTC (\~7% of total supply). $142B value. Global crypto ETPs: $87B net inflows since launch. This opened Bitcoin to pension funds, asset managers, RIAs via traditional brokerage. **Who's buying** Harvard Management Company - holding BTC in institutional portfolio. Mubadala (Abu Dhabi sovereign wealth fund) - accumulating. Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy) - raised USD reserve fund specifically for continued BTC purchases. Less than 0.5% of U.S. advised wealth allocated to crypto currently. That's growing fast. **Price projections (analyst consensus)** 2026: $150k-$250k range (most forecasts cluster here). 2030: $250k-$1M (based on halving cycles, institutional adoption, scarcity). Standard Chartered: $150k by end 2026, $500k by 2030. Charles Hoskinson: $250k by 2026. Michael Saylor: $1M by 2030, $13M by 2045 (extreme but shows conviction). **Why it's different now** Regulatory clarity: Bipartisan crypto legislation expected in 2026. Scarcity: 20 millionth Bitcoin mined March 2026. Only 1.32M unmined (under 7% left). 3-4M BTC permanently lost (forgotten keys, destroyed wallets). 2024 halving cut daily issuance to 450 BTC. **Bitcoin as digital gold** U.S. debt problem putting pressure on dollar's store of value. Bitcoin supply capped at 21M. Programmatic, can't be inflated. Countries accumulating (governments hold 647k BTC). "Alternative store of value" thesis gaining institutional traction. **Real risks** Volatility still huge. Not a stable asset. Regulation could turn hostile (unlikely but possible). Tech risk - quantum computing future threat. **Learn it properly** CBP from 101 Blockchains - 100+ lessons covering Bitcoin fundamentals, technical structure, wallets/key management, transactions, mining economics, security/privacy, use cases, legal/regulatory. 13 hours CPD credit. 160+ practice Q&A. CPD accredited. Helps you understand what you're investing in beyond just buying and holding. **Bottom line** For long-term (5-10 years)? Yeah, BTC looks solid based on institutional adoption data. For short-term trading? Volatile as hell. Don't put in what you can't afford to lose. The "digital gold" narrative actually backed by institutional behavior now, not just Redditors saying it.

Robotoverlordv1

State and Federal adoption, Regulatory framework adoption, Financial institution adoption, Recommended by almost all financial advisors now, ETF approval and now widespread adoption. A massive ecosystem being built to make widespread adoption feasible.

NostalgicFor2012

If you are going to trust a SIPC insured brokerage to hold your stock, you can trust it to hold your SEC vetted bitcoin ETF. Telling inexperienced people to own their own keys is bad advice. As it’s a million times likelier that they will fuck something up, as opposed to say, Fidelity stealing their 25k worth of BTC and somehow getting away with it. Former is a real scenario that happens all the time, latter is a scenario that paranoid crackpots daydream about.

Hfksnfgitndskfjridnf

And nobody uses it p2p, they all run through centralized exchanges which are only banks by a different name. Most people who own Bitcoin have never made a Bitcoin transaction, they only hold it on an exchange or through an ETF.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Orange_Tang

Came here to say this exact same thing. Why in the world would anyone go into questionable stable coins rather than go into SGOV, an ETF backed directly with US government bonds. It's not FDIC insured, but it's way safer than a fucking stable coin. This article is dumb AF.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Right now, I don’t have capital, but I’m willing to put in the work and learn the right way. A good way to get some capital is to get a job. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Fickle_Actuator_5145

Honest answer that isn't just "HODL" or "buy the dip": Before you touch Bitcoin or any investment, do these first: 1. Pay off any high-interest debt (credit cards, personal loans above 8%). No investment consistently beats 20%+ interest rates on credit card debt. 2. Build 3-6 months of expenses in a high-yield savings account or stablecoins earning yield. This is your "sleep at night" money. 3. Only invest what's left. If you have no debt and already have an emergency fund, great, all 25k can go to investments. Now for the actual investing part with whatever's left: Don't put it all in at once. BTC is sitting below 67k right now after a meaningful pullback. Nobody knows if this is the bottom or if we go lower. Dollar-cost average over 3-6 months. Put in a set amount every week or every two weeks. Split between Bitcoin and a broad index fund (S&P 500 ETF like VOO). Bitcoin is high conviction for a lot of people here, and I get it, but diversification isn't a dirty word. Something like 60-70% BTC, 30-40% index funds gives you crypto upside with less volatility. Self-custody at least some of your BTC. Hardware wallet (Coldcard, Trezor, etc). Not your keys, not your coins isn't just a meme after what happened with FTX. Most importantly: have a plan and write it down. What's your time horizon? Are you holding for 5+ years? Are you going to panic sell at the first 30% drop? Be honest with yourself before the emotions kick in.

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Junnowhoitis

Bloomberg ETF analyst who works for a company selling a Bitcoin ETF telling people that buying Bitcoin and holding it is a good idea. Lol what a surprise.

dextarstoic7

Near 70% When I started investing 3-4 years ago I bought bitcoin and traded much(day and swing trades) which had grown my portfolio bigg Iam slowly redistributing the wins into ETF's and Stocks to have a better diversification but believing in bitcoin

Beginning-Put-4467

50% world ETF 50% BTC

Dramatic_Patience_41

Why is the fee so high when the "ETF" is just Bitcoin?

ClearSnakewood

ETF’s are not Bitcoin. Real Bitcoin lives on the blockchain.

Survivalist2

Hey man! I am new in Bitcoin too. I wanted to buy bitcoin when the price was 17.000€ . I didn’t. I invested some money into BTC last year. I think mostly because of FOMO. First purchase was totaly based on feelings and not on any research. Later, I started reading about bitcoin, listening to podcasts, watching yt videos, and it opened another world for me. You see, I invested before in other assets like ETF’s , so that means im not totaly new into this right? I was so wrong! Bitcoin is an investment on another whole level, and the whole cominity is just amazing. My advice is, buy the dips and DCA as long as you can, because IMO you won’t be able to do that in the future.

Baberpk

"Nice entry! $66k is looking like a very strong institutional support level right now. I actually just finished a deep-dive analysis on why the traditional 4-year cycle is changing in 2026. The 'Retail Era' of 80% crashes is likely behind us because of the massive ETF floor. If you're planning to HODL, I've broken down why these levels are holding so well here: \[https://bitfluxe.com/bitcoin-2026-cycle-evolution/ . Good luck with the investment!"

baIIern

Are those ETF inflows in the room with us now?

leonm0161

Correct, but you are forgetting something. A stock is a virtual piece of ownership that only belongs to you as long as the government protects your "right" for that virtual ownership. It's not like you have private keys for that. Expropriation of company ownership is nothing new & grows with growing socialism, the direction our world is heading to (remember how bytedance was forced to sell tiktok US?) In Germany eg, they have implemented the "Vorabpauschale", which is a small tax on unrealized ETF gains. Also, the companies you own stocks of can only send you the "money" as a dividend that they earn. But what if they will need to send you a CBDC in the future, which you might not be able to use since you don't align with governmental agenda? It will be essentially worthless to you. Bitcoin is the only digital asset that you can definitely prove your ownership of without the risk of being expropriated