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Huntingtonbeach88

ETF is more than done for most people. The “not your keys, not your cheese” crowd are more like “peppers” than investors. And if society collapses luke they fear bitcoin will be the last of your problems. Self custody or etf is preference more than anything else. I love my coins being held at an institution

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nonkeywayzee

>no fear of losing Everything That is exactly where you are mistaken. On top of that, when you buy a Bitcoin ETF you don't just leverage the responsibility to a 3rd party, but you also give them all of your agency over your money, they can negate you access to your own money anytime they want, or the moment your government goes to shit and siezes every private asset (if you are American this might seem as imunimaginable, but it was also unimaginable in Venezuela until it happened, I lived through it.), so yeah, it is a lot better. If you think convenience is worth the risk just so you can see a a bigger number on the state imposed monopoly money aide of the trade, you do you, just know that the risks are higher than you just not knowing how to take care of a few words.

creative_usr_name

You can’t lose it with an ETF. But someone else can lose it for you. 

Fafetto

In Italia si paga il 33% di tasse su crypto E si paga il 26% di tasse su ETF So che non possiedi personalmente la CRYPTO ma i guadagni sono li stessi 🤞🏻

Bulky_Dingo_4706

I guess I should sell my BTC ETF.

Fafetto

Credo in quello che dici! Ci proverò e fra qualche anno ti dirò! 🍀🤞🏻 Comunque vada sarà Una vincita Però fiscalmente per me conviene ETF in BTC

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Mammoth-Birthday-437

the short covering is a good signal but i wouldnt read too much into it in isolation. macro products like ETF shorts getting unwound usually means the big players think the worst is behind us, but it also means they already captured most of the downside profit. crypto tends to follow equities with a lag so if stocks bounce from here BTC probably follows within a few days. keep an eye on the options skew too, thats where the real sentiment shows

Impressive-Dust5395

Most of the volume comes from institutional desks, market makers, and ETF-related flows, and they all run on weekday schedules. The ETF piece is especially relevant now because a huge chunk of BTC is locked in spot ETFs that only trade during market hours. On weekends that liquidity is completely absent. Retail alone doesn't move the needle enough to compensate.

LordJamPunt

When retail investors buy a Spot Bitcoin ETF they are buying a traditional stock. "Paper Bitcoin” Wall Street can trade billions of dollars in ETF shares, derivatives, and futures contracts without a single BTC ever moving on the blockchain. They can create artificial supply and demand derivatives, suppressing or inflating price without on-chain analysts seeing a thing A massive, growing percentage of the global Bitcoin supply is being funneled into their wallets. Once wall street controls a large enough share of the physical supply, they dictate the terms of the market. They can lend it to short-sellers, hypothecate it, and use their massive holdings as leverage to exert gravity.

Available-Word-6493

ETF’s are owned by people like you and I. Not by one entity. They are just the resellers…

Maniac0815

Ich würde niemanden erzählen das ich Krypto habe oder dazu raten.Jeder muss sich selbst damit auseinandersetzen und es dauert Jahre bis man versteht wo drum es geht.Ja es gibt gute Projekte aber es gibt keine Garantie auf Erfolg.Ist bei Aktien ,Indizes und ETF aber genau so.Der einzige Unterschied ist das Aktien stark vom jetzigen Finanzsystem abhängig sind und viele Kryptos halt nicht

AcostaJA

They just repeating what big media narrative wants you to believe. A fact is big ETF and whales (not just microstrategy) wants to control Bitcoin supply to eventually squeeze and set the Bitcoin price as they where the OPEC for Bitcoin, this they want to buy it cheap until retailer (and mostly traders) got depleted of Bitcoin. That's absolutely opposed to what the Bitcoin paper teach about freedom. Those are the same people that don't believe in r year cycles but push that narrative fiery because they are the ones purchasing every Bitcoin at lows.

BitcoinBaller420

A few recent highlights: \- Strategy created a huge new source of demand by dialing in their STRC product. Bitcoin-backed credit demand is growing rapidly, one of the most successful product launches ever. \- Iran gave a live-fire demonstration of the value of trustless money to exchange value between enemies, that has the potential to be another large source of daily demand \- Morgan Stanly launched their own bitcoin ETF, adding another set of highly motivated wealth managers pushing bitcoin to their clients going forward

BitcoinBaller420

Retail's ability to remain fearful even when everything is coming up roses for Bitcoin is shocking. New record demand for Bitcoin-backed credit on Friday, new ETF from a major bank, a new wave of wealth managers pushing these products, potentially hundreds of millions / day in new oil demand to pay tolls... and you're still bearish? Sheesh.

BaldBear_13

I can send internationally. Crypto might be a bit faster, but they are in a different time zone anyway and will not get it until tomorrow anyway. ETF cannot be taken from me. I know the government *could* take over the brokerage, but also hackers *could* take over your wallet app through an undiscovered backdoor. I do not have to ask permission to change the numbers. I believe brokerage does buy BTC to support it. And even if it does not, it has plenty of capital to cash me out when I want to.

KCConnor

That's a bit too low unless we get another FTX sized collapse. Strategy being forced to sell into the lows, Blackrock being proven to hold no actual BTC for their ETF (though that should actually drive price up rather than down but it's scandalous enough), something like that. I see a trend line from the October high to the January 14th high, descending through to October 2026. By the first week of June we should be in the $58K range. I expect summer flirtation with $60K on and off, then an August/September scare to $44K.

Warrior_witha_Garden

buy coffee ! send it internationally instantly. and it cant be taken from me. you dont own it. we both have numbers on a screen. i dont have to ask permission to change those numbers... which is the whole point why we are here !!! ETF is just a coinbase honey pot...6102 ?

LuckyWinds

> Crypto is never going mainstream anytime soon because of friction. Fastest growing ETFs of all time? Bitcoin Largest asset manager in the world's most profitable product? Bitcoin ETF And you say it's not mainstream?

mrkrabz1991

> There IS NO GOLD in the fed reserve vaults. Only PAPER IOU notes and e-gold in bs ETF's. Again, top comment on Reddit is misleading and inaccurate. Reddit is going downhill... What's more likely is the Fed didn't want to deal with packing, security and transporting that much gold out of Manhattan, so they bought it from France OR Trump loves gold so much he convinced France to sell it instead of moving it out of Manhattan.

magus-21

>What does that tell us?! >There IS NO GOLD in the fed reserve vaults. Only PAPER IOU notes and e-gold in bs ETF's. Or it's because France didn't want to pay for a cargo ship to send a literal fuckton of gold across the ocean for no reason. Wtf, don't be dense

Odd_Bar9513

How much $ did you spend ETF’s and to pay off your debts? Sounds like a sound and reasonable move all in all. Though probably personally I would have kept a bit more as BTC.

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1shbbj9/btc_hit_72k_on_ceasefire_news_etfs_just_had_their/ Let's look at what's actually happening in the market right now versus what sentiment is saying, because the gap between them is unusually wide. This week: BTC pushed above $72,000 on ceasefire optimism as Trump announced a two-week pause in Iran hostilities brokered through Pakistan. Monday saw $471 million in ETF net inflows. It's the sixth-largest single day of 2026. Morgan Stanley's $MSBT launched on Tuesday at 0.14%, the cheapest spot Bitcoin ETF on the market, attached to $9.3 trillion in wealth management AUM. Bitcoin has now broken out of a two-month $62K–$75K range to the upside on meaningful volume. The ceasefire, fragile as it is, has removed the single biggest macro headwind that's been sitting on every risk asset since late February. Fear & Greed: 11. Extreme Fear. That's the widest disconnect between price action and sentiment that's appeared in this whole bear market cycle. Price is doing one thing. The index tracking how scared people are is doing the complete opposite. There are two readings of this. The cynical one: Fear & Greed is a lagging sentiment indicator based on social media volume and survey responses from retail participants, many of whom have been burned repeatedly over the last six months and no longer trust bounces. The index being at 11 during a $72K print just means retail is exhausted and disengaged, not that the market is actually fragile. The other reading: the market is right to be scared. The ceasefire is two weeks, not a peace deal. Iran hasn't formally confirmed all terms. Oil is still above $100. The Fed is on hold. The altcoin divergence, where ENA is down 66% over 90 days, SUI and ARB down 50%+ while AI and privacy tokens outperform, suggests capital is concentrating rather than rotating broadly. That's not what healthy recoveries look like. What I'd actually watch: [if BTC holds above $72K into the weekend without the ceasefire unravelling](https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-shatters-72000-as-middle-east-ceasefire-sparks-relief-rally/), the next resistance is $75K–$76K. A close above that on spot demand rather than short liquidations would be the first genuinely clean bullish signal in months. If the ceasefire breaks and oil spikes again, back to $65K–$67K support. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

LuckyWinds

This is what I'm talking about when I say you are misinformed. $33.9m for a single ETF is a huge inflow on it's first day.

LuckyWinds

The fact that this is being upvoted shows how misinformed this sub is about ETF inflow numbers. It's really quite embarrassing.

BitcoinBaller420

STRC brings another $300m in fresh capital from credit investors with zero vol, Morgan Stanley launches an ETF, Iran gives a live-fire demonstration of the value of Bitcoin to enable huge payments between adversaries... and you're still bearish? The S-curve of global adoption is just about to kick into high gear, credit markets have entered the chat.

BaldBear_13

TL; DV: Level 1: ETF Level 2: Centralized Exchange Level 3: Hot Wallet Level 4: Cold Wallet + Steel Backup Level 5: Decoy Wallets Level 6: Multisig Level 7: Assisted Multisig with Automatic Inheritance

Sad_Sky7303

Btc as a savings is a bad idea in my opinion. I am pro-crypto but not as a savings placeholder. A better way to save would probably be a liquid index fund (ETF) or a HYSA earning a decent yield. I would just acquire bitcoin and hold it. That simple.

InvestAISavvy

The social data around BTC right now is wild. Fear & Greed index is sitting at 14 — extreme fear — while price is actually up 8% on the week. Meanwhile Morgan Stanley just launched a spot BTC ETF today with $34M in first-day volume. So you've got a sovereign nation demanding BTC for critical infrastructure tolls, the biggest US investment bank launching an ETF, and retail sentiment is the most bearish it's been since February. That disconnect is hard to ignore. I keep going back to the idea that institutions are positioning for a world where BTC has real geopolitical utility while retail is panic selling. Whether Iran actually follows through on this is almost beside the point — the fact that it's even on the table changes the narrative.

BaldBear_13

no. I did invest into ETF, and I plan to start mining once the weather gets colder.

OkMagician7867

Nobody's missing it — it's just not the full picture. Morgan Stanley ETF + $471M in ETF inflows + Iran ceasefire pushed us to $72.7K yesterday. Sounds incredible. But my orderflow data shows VPIN at 0.91 — that's extreme. Sell-to-buy transaction ratio is roughly 7:1. Someone big is using this exact rally as an exit.

hughkuhn

How are you all missing the fact that Morgan Stanley introduced their BTC ETF yesterday? 16,000 wealth advisors now able to put their clients in an MS Bitcoin ETF....

FromThePits

I can imagine Exxon paying Iran a toll of 25 BTC to pass a ship through the straight of Hommuz Also paying a Korean shipyard for their next bulk carrier with bitcoin. I can imagine Iran buying anti-air weapons from Russia with BTC, and Russia buying drones from China, and China buying debt from USA. But with an average of 1000 sats transaction fee I don't see BTC becoming a daily standard for salaries or coffee purchasing any day soon (ever?) . Second layer solutions will also have to settle from time to time . Too expensive for small-timers. ETF's might break also. It's tradition with third party solutions, although there's some big money behind this time. Time will tell.

FromThePits

I wont. Of course we all have other sources of income. My point is that BTC is bound to slip through your familys fingers over a few generations. Doesn't matter how much of a diamond hand you are and how much cold storage you do. They will become close to no-coiners, if you don't do plan for them. I plan to save for the next 4 generations. Just to give them a fighting chance and hopefully inspire them to do the same. Otherwise they will also become no-coiners, and wonder what the hell I was thinking about, having millions and not saving just a little for them? They will still be able to save in satoshi or milli-satoshis, but for every generation, their salary will allow them less and less bitcoin. Meanwhile institutions and not just the ones that issues ETF's, but banks, governments, retirement funds, companies etc. around the world will scoop up every bitcoin found in the wild, and they will sit on it forever for leverage and collateral. Individuals will not on a large scale be able to compete, so retails share will shrink significantly. NYKNYC or not. Thats not the issue here. Stamina is.

FunWithSkooma

nah, there are people, in this sub even, that said that they rather buy the ETF than having the asset itself.

Immediate-Engine9837

unthocks is right here. $471M in ETF inflows on these catalysts is actually pretty modest if institutions were really convinced tbh. Short squeeze energy with retail chasing liquidations while smart money sits cautious or takes profits. That's why the Fear & Greed dropped even as price pumped - totally different buyer convictions.

SparseClarity

The drop in sentiment despite the rally suggests the move in Bitcoin may have been driven more by short liquidations than strong conviction buying. Even bullish news like the ETF from Morgan Stanley didn’t improve confidence, which could signal traders doubt the sustainability of the pump.

redditor71567

Bitcoin is up 25% in 5 years. Worse than the average savings account let alone ETF tracker

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Ethereum is holding near a key support around $2,168-$2,100 while facing heavy selling from three sources: the Ethereum Foundation, spot ETH ETF holders, and whales. The Foundation has already sold 3,750 ETH worth about $8.3 million and plans to convert 5,000 ETH total. ETF inflows quickly reversed to outflows, and whale holdings also declined. Technically, ETH remains trapped in a symmetrical triangle, with a possible golden cross at risk of failing if support breaks, opening downside toward $2,102 or lower. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

CryptoOnTheSidewalk

Which timeframe are you looking at here, and are you basing this more on price action or flows like ETF inflows and volume? It reads more like relief than conviction to me since real trust usually shows up as sustained bids and follow through, so the practical move is watching if dips get bought consistently, but the caveat is macro headlines can flip sentiment fast so this can unwind just as quickly.

OkMagician7867

I think self-custody is the whole point. But ETFs bring in capital that eventually finds its way to real BTC. Most people start with the ETF and end up running a node two years later. The on-ramp matters even if it's not the final destination.

HesitantInvestor0

"AUM is not same as total client assets. They report their AUM as $1.9T, not $10T." I know. 1.9 trillion is around 7% of the AUM of all other Bitcoin ETF providers combined.

OkMagician7867

Fair points. You're right that short liquidations can be the spark and ETF inflows are real demand, not arguing that. My concern is more about the timing. When retail L/S is at 1.73 long and top traders are net short at 0.87, the liquidation cascade tends to hit longs first before shorts get squeezed. Sentiment lagging price is normal yeah, but the four days of exchange inflows on top of that makes me want to see a daily close confirmation before trusting the move.

unthocks

You’re mixing signals. Short liquidations can start a move, not invalidate it. And ETF inflows literally are institutional demand. Sentiment lagging price isn’t unusual at all.

stupiddodid

Thankfully you now have crypto ETF offerings so problem solved. Thanks for the advise stranger

ross_iya

So basically you'd suggest your family to buy GDLC ETF? It's the top five cryptocurrencies by market cap.

CaptainNuggetPuta

Or the timing of ETF being released now is all too convenient... to be the one catching the falling knife

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Post is by: Bcom_Mod and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/bitcoin_com/comments/1sgd7c9/morgan_stanleys_bitcoin_etf_goes_live_today_93/ $MSBT becomes effective today, April 8th, on NYSE Arca. For context on what this actually means: Morgan Stanley Wealth Management oversees $9.3 trillion in client assets. Their 16,000 financial advisors can now pitch a Morgan Stanley-branded Bitcoin ETF as their own house product: not a third-party fund they're reluctantly offering access to, their own fund at 0.14% annually. That undercuts BlackRock's IBIT at 0.25% by 11 basis points. Bloomberg ETF analyst Eric Balchunas called it a "semi-shock" when the fee dropped. James Seyffart's reaction was simply "WOW." Strategy's CEO Phong Le did the maths publicly: Morgan Stanley recommends a 0–4% Bitcoin allocation for clients. A 2% allocation across their AUM would be $160 billion. BlackRock's IBIT, the fastest-growing ETF in Wall Street history, currently has about $55 billion. So even a modest shift in how Morgan Stanley's advisors allocate client capital could create inflows that dwarf what IBIT has built over two years. The distribution angle is the story here, not the product itself. BlackRock built the best-known Bitcoin ETF. Fidelity built one with institutional credibility. [But Morgan Stanley has a private client wealth management network](https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-bitcoin-etf-expected-tomorrow-as-massive-inflow-speculation-builds/) that specifically reaches the demographic most underexposed to Bitcoin: older, wealthier, advisor-driven investors who wanted the exposure but needed someone they already trusted to package it for them. That population hasn't moved yet in any meaningful size. This all lands while BTC is at \~$69K, Fear & Greed is at 13, and sentiment surveys are about as bearish as they've been all year. Every institutional access point that gets built during this drawdown is supply that will matter when conditions change. Worth watching first-day inflows closely. IBIT did around $112M on day one in January 2024. MSBT has a different distribution base and a fee advantage. The opening number will tell you something about how ready that advisor channel actually is. The bank that took two years of ETF approvals to finally launch its own product chose to do it while BTC is 45% off ATH. Make of that what you will. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Friendly-Profit-8590

On one hand the more ETF’s and such there are the more available it is to your average investor and perhaps the more attention Bitcoin will get. On the other Morgan Stanley just sees another way to make a buck. At the end of the day, for them, that’s all it is. It’s not a nod to Bitcoin’s future it’s just them seeing an opportunity to collect fees.

JimBoukie

Put it into a TFSA ETF, guaranteed 8% return year over year. Reinvest the interest every year and let it compound.

LuckyWinds

> Bro its an etf to collect fees, not some 4d chess crypto fantasy This is a pretty uninformed take. A lot of people clearly are new here. Bitcoin is becoming mainstream in the financial world. This would have been unheard of just a few years ago. And now the fastest growing ETFs of all time are Bitcoin. The largest asset manger's most profitable ETF? Bitcoin That single bitcoin ETF was ranked #3 in terms of inflows across ALL ETFs in the USA. Only being beaten by VOO and IVV. And people act like this isn't a big deal....

Romanizer

ETF net flows only went down by 12% while Bitcoin went down 50%. They are more diamond hands than holders outside of that.

harl_vann

That is true. But the point I’m trying to make is that a memecoin has the potential to become more than a short term fad, For example, Canary Capital has filed an S-1 registration statement with the SEC for a spot PEPE ETF, marking a significant expansion of meme coin financial products following DOGE initiatives. This move aims to bring institutional investment to the PEPE token, which is currently consolidating within a broader downtrend but showing signs of potential recovery.

Romanizer

First, it's an ETF product. Then, it becomes collateral and finally it becomes the balance sheet anchor for liquidity creation.

BitcoinBaller420

New Bitcoin ETF from Morgan Stanley has a successful launch, Bitcoin up hundreds of bps, fear and greed at 17... lol

cashflashmil

Lately I’ve been reading WebSnack for that. It’s a daily crypto newsletter covering Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, market sentiment, and the broader crypto market context. Much easier than trying to piece everything together from random posts and headlines.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Morgan Stanley launched the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust (MSBT) on NYSE Arca on April 8, 2026, becoming the first major U.S. bank to issue a spot Bitcoin ETF under its own name. The fund holds physical bitcoin, tracks the CoinDesk Bitcoin Benchmark, and charges a market-low 0.14% annual fee. Analysts say Morgan Stanley’s vast advisor network could help MSBT gather significant assets, intensifying competition and fee pressure in the spot Bitcoin ETF market. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

ItsPickles

Prob jus dipshit ETF holders

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Post is by: cashflashmil and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: https://websnack.org/news/morgan-stanley-msbt-spot-bitcoin-etf-apr-2026 Morgan Stanley has officially launched MSBT, a spot Bitcoin ETF listed on NYSE Arca. What makes this more interesting than a normal product launch is that this is the first major U.S. bank putting its own name directly on a spot Bitcoin ETF. The fund holds physical bitcoin, launched on April 8, and comes in with a 0.14% fee, which undercuts most of the existing spot BTC ETF field.  To me, the bigger story is what this says about where Bitcoin sits now in traditional finance. Up to this point, most of the major spot ETFs came from asset managers like BlackRock, Fidelity, and others. Morgan Stanley changes that dynamic because it brings a bank balance sheet, a private wealth brand, and a massive advisor network into the same trade. The article notes roughly 16,000 financial advisors overseeing $6.2 trillion in client assets, which is a very different kind of distribution channel than retail-driven ETF demand.  The fee also matters more than people think. At 0.14%, Morgan Stanley is basically telling the market this product is meant to compete seriously for long-term allocation, not just exist as another checkbox product. That kind of pricing usually means they expect Bitcoin exposure to become a persistent part of client portfolios, not a temporary trade.  So the real question here isn’t just whether MSBT gets flows. It’s whether this is another sign that Bitcoin is moving deeper into core portfolio infrastructure and away from being treated as a niche satellite asset. Curious how others see it: is this mainly a fee war and distribution story, or does a major bank launching its own spot Bitcoin ETF mark a more important shift in how traditional finance now views BTC? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Cartier1847

It will take a while before MSBT is available outside the US. It’s not even trading on the global NYSE platform yet. The 16k and $9.3T numbers have no bearing to this ETF.

CyroSwitchBlade

I have been having a feeling that the new Morgan Stanley Bitcoin ETF could be kind of a big deal.. I am going to get some in my Etrade account tonight just to show support.

777GUNMETALGREY

The exposure is already there mate. BTC ETF spots kicked off in 2021, Then ramped up for your big players like blackrock, fidelity, ark etc in 2024.

Premium_Hunter

Could buy long dated options on an ETF. The problem will be if BTC stays down for an extended time they will bleed out eventually. However, if you feel confident BTC will rise over the next 2 years it’s a way to juicy the gains. Nothing is risk free.

TheresNoSecondBest

Start with the [Whitepaper](https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper), mate. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Putrid_Pollution3455

The easiest way is to just buy the spot price ETF in a regular brokerage account… Unless you plan on actually making transactions with it, then the second easiest is to buy it on a central exchange. Maybe even your brokerage would allow you to do that… And finally the old-school way is to actually figure out how to build a cold wallet and all that fun stuff.

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Post is by: OkMagician7867 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sfnl9a/morgan_stanley_etf_iran_ceasefire_pumped_btc_to/ I run an automated monitoring system that tracks BTC orderflow, on-chain data, and macro signals around the clock. Today's rally looks amazing on the surface. $71.7K, +4.37%, $471M in ETF inflows. But my system flagged 3 problems: **The sellers are hiding inside the rally.** A metric I track called VPIN — it measures how much "smart money" is moving — hit 0.91. That's extreme. The sell-to-buy transaction ratio is roughly 7:1. Somebody big is using this pump as an exit. **Volume is lying.** On the 1-hour chart, actual buying volume is shrinking while price climbs. This divergence is how most "fake breakouts" start. My system targets $68,500-70,000 as the likely pullback zone. **History says this pattern loses.** Going long during a bear market bounce has a 90.3% loss rate in my dataset (31 instances). The bearish regime hasn't changed — one good day of news doesn't flip the structure. I'm watching $68,500-70,000. If BTC gets there and seller activity calms down, that's where things get interesting again. BTC halving anniversary April 20 could add positive sentiment heading into it. But CPI April 10 first. I don't touch anything around that release. What's your take — sustainable move or news-driven bounce? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

LiquidityCompass

Feels like everyone’s focused on levels, but it’s really about conditions. If ETF flows hold and liquidity doesn’t tighten, $80k makes sense. If yields rise or flows slow, $60k is still very possible. If we hit $80k, what’s more likely next — $100k or back to $60k?

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tldr; Morgan Stanley’s spot bitcoin ETF, the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust (ticker: MSBT), is set to begin trading on the NYSE on April 8. It will be the first BTC ETF launched by a major U.S. commercial bank and will be distributed across about 16,000 Morgan Stanley financial advisors overseeing $6.2 trillion in client assets. The fund will charge a 0.14% fee, lower than BlackRock’s IBIT by 11 basis points. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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Post is by: DanielCrossDXB and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1sfetg0/why_localcurrency_stablecoins_might_matter_more/ Feels like one of the more important things happening in crypto right now isn’t another token launch or another ETF headline, it’s local currency rails quietly getting built. Watching what’s happening around AED-linked stablecoins made me think about this more seriously. If a place like the UAE starts moving toward real local-currency blockchain infrastructure, that feels like a bigger shift than most of the usual crypto noise. Not because it’s exciting on Twitter, but because it starts touching actual money movement, payments, settlement, and trust. That’s when crypto starts moving away from pure speculation and closer to financial plumbing. To me that matters more than people think, especially for traders and exchanges. Better local rails eventually affect how money gets in and out, how friction drops, and which platforms actually feel usable versus just tradable. Curious how others see it. Are local-currency-backed stablecoins actually a bigger deal than the market gives them credit for, or is this still mostly branding for now? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

BitcoinMD

NCIQ ETF. Mostly Bitcoin but the other top coins in proportion to their market cap. Basically a crypto index fund.

Todo_es

Nice: "Morgan Stanley’s spot Bitcoin ETF appears set to begin trading Wednesday after the SEC declared the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust effective and the bank filed its final prospectus. Bloomberg ETF analyst Eric Balchunas said in a post on X that the fund looks set to go live April 8, citing a screenshot of the NYSE listing notice. The trust is expected to trade on NYSE Arca under the ticker MSBT. The filing confirms Morgan Stanley is entering the crowded US spot bitcoin ETF market with a physical product that will hold Bitcoin directly and track the CoinDesk Bitcoin Benchmark 4 PM NY Settlement Rate. The trust will not use leverage, derivatives, or active trading to try to outperform Bitcoin. The product also arrives with aggressive pricing. Morgan Stanley disclosed a 0.14% annual delegated sponsor fee, which is below the 0.25% level charged by BlackRock’s IBIT and lower than most major spot Bitcoin ETFs currently on the market. Morgan Stanley said BNY and Coinbase Custody Trust Company will serve as Bitcoin custodians for the trust. The prospectus also says the initial seed creation baskets are expected to total about $1 million, with 50,000 shares created ahead of listing. This is a notable step because Morgan Stanley became the first major US bank to file for spot Bitcoin and Solana ETFs in January, marking a deeper push into crypto investment products by a traditional finance firm. Morgan Stanley also plans to offer Bitcoin, Ether, and Solana trading through E*Trade in the first half of 2026 through a partnership with Zerohash."

Disraelo2

ETF that is backing based on BTC or crypto.

Alfador8

No, some will consider the tax implications of selling their current ETF holdings and decide it isn't worth a few basis points in fees. Some people still hold GBTC because of this.

Henry_old

Morgan Stanley ETF launch: Institutional liquidity is here. Great for volume, but expect tighter spreads. Retuning my sniper bots for the "Wall Street" sessions. Massive liquidity spikes incoming. Get your API keys ready

BaldBear_13

all this makes ETF sound so much easier ... But do not get worked up, I will get a real wallet, just for the challenge of it, when I have time, and energy.

cashflashmil

If it were someone in my family, I wouldn’t start with random crypto picks at all. I’d probably say: Most of the money goes into broad index ETFs first. If they specifically want crypto exposure, keep it small and start with Bitcoin. Maybe some Ethereum later, but only after they understand what they’re buying. That’s the honest answer. For a beginner, the biggest mistake is thinking the question is “which coin will do best?” Usually the better question is “what can I hold through volatility without panicking and making bad decisions?” If I care about the person, I’m not giving them a speculative altcoin. I’m giving them something simple, liquid, and proven enough that they can actually sleep at night. So if I had to make it practical: 80–90% broad ETFs 10–20% Bitcoin and only add more complexity after they’ve spent time learning how markets actually behave. That’s also why I think it helps to follow the market in a structured way before making bigger decisions. WebSnack is pretty good for that. It’s a daily crypto newsletter covering Bitcoin, macro liquidity, ETF flows, market sentiment, and the bigger narratives moving crypto. It’s useful if someone wants to understand the space without drowning in noise.

Dellis251984

And I predict a Bottom around $37,500 - $45,000. They will bring it down close to where ETF's were approved and live which was around $35,000 if I am remembering correctly. But not so close that people in those ETF' see no use in that ETF.

devCheckingIn

Rather significant ETF inflows for BTC yesterday. That probably explains the pump.

PuzzleheadedBell4057

An S&P 500 Index ETF is the 1st investment I would suggest to anyone new to investing. I would not suggest any Crypto as it's an asset that's very volatile. You need more time to find out what your risk tolerance is. Get your sea legs wet first. Learn a little about the markets. Definitely learn about Dollar Cost Averaging (if you have a 401k you're already practicing it and you probably don't even know it). Take a couple of years to help you get use to market gyrations. That time will help you get use to the short term possibility of seeing an account balance worth less than the money you have invested - i.e. a loss. If you feel you must be invested in Crypto, invest in Bitcoin, but make it a small part of your portfolio, 5 - 10% for the 1st couple of years. This is the advice I would give to a family member that's just beginning to invest

LiquidityCompass

If you were my family I’d honestly keep it simple… some broad ETF + a bit of BTC and just leave it alone. And seriously, avoid day trading at all costs. Most people just end up losing everything doing that. Biggest thing is to start learning first — understanding what you’re investing in matters way more than trying to be early or clever. Are you looking more for steady growth or higher risk/higher upside?

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Financial_Vanilla_47

Nah you are just in denial that this is a miner capitulation and strategy/ETF insolvency driven breakdown because you won't admit it until it starts to actually happen but it probably won't happen until BTC is below 30k and by then it's too late and only the people who admit and and move on at some point survive.

Calm-Professional103

Are you referring to the Purpose BTC ETF?

PuzzleheadedBell4057

2017. Reading various articles. I didn't know much about Bitcoin but thought it was something I should be adding to my portfolio. Found out the brokerage I was using at the time (E-Trade) provided a BTC trust that I could invest in (Grayscale GBTC - it's an ETF now) for exposure. DCAed into the trust for about a 1-1/2 years while I learned the ins and outs of BTC. Moved to cold storage in 2019.

North-Cry-7815

Feels like momentum is building again, but calling it a “boom” might be early. BTC + ETF flows are strong signals, but macro (rates, regulation) still matters. Probably more of a gradual uptrend than instant hype cycle.

MarcusCollective

Depends entirely on your time horizon. If you're asking about the next 30 days nobody knows. If you're asking about the next 3 years the data is pretty compelling. Fear and Greed has been below 15 for 46 consecutive days. The last time sentiment stayed this low for this long was near the 2022 cycle bottom. Bitcoin has also held $65,800 support through the entire stretch which is meaningful — price is diverging from sentiment. The macro headwinds are real. Fed is hawkish, Iran tensions keeping oil elevated, institutional ETF outflows in March. Those don't disappear overnight. But historically the best entries have always felt like the worst time to buy. The people asking this question in October 2022 at $16K were getting the same answers.

ReadingTheSign23

If they’re not tech savvy, ETF is honestly way easier. It just behaves like a normal investment account, no wallets, no seed phrases, no stress about messing something up. They can check it like any other stock. CEX is fine too, but you’re still dealing with accounts, transfers, maybe confusion around sending and fees. That’s usually where people get stuck. Really comes down to whether you want them to actually hold BTC or just get exposure. For most parents, simple usually wins.

Romanizer

If that intention is coming from your parents and they know what they get into and can handle the volatility, they should use the ETF.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Zestyclose_Cheek527

Cmon we all know what will happen to bitcoin if ETF holding becomes normalized

u_spawnTrapd

If they’re not tech savvy, ETF is honestly the smoother experience. It just looks like any other stock in a brokerage account, so checking price and buying more feels familiar. CEX works too, but even the simple ones still have extra steps like transfers, 2FA, wallet stuff if they ever go that route. That’s usually where people get stuck or nervous. I’d think about whether they actually care about holding the BTC directly. If not, ETF is way less friction. If yes, then pick the simplest exchange possible and maybe walk them through it once so they’re not guessing later.

mrestiaux

If you’re in Canada - ShakePay will give you spread free recurring buys. If you’re in the states- that’d be strike. That being said, the easiest, most care free way is the ETF.

merdekabelajar

I think since the ETF introduced we already at bottom somehow. But still this year will be bearish and next year bullish

Dettol-tasting-menu

I think we are on the same page just reading from a different angle. No one should keep their sats on exchanges. Period. Most people are aware of its risks by now. But then they go the other way and buy ETFs instead. Neither is a good option. The risks of holding ETF is less obvious and many people even think ETFs are a “better” way to HODL. Strong disagree. The whole point of Bitcoin is “permissionless decentralized censorship resistant money”. That’s what gives Bitcoin its value in the first place. If everyone buys ETFs and call it the day, Bitcoin get lock up in the custodian dungeons and never get sent P2P, then it will no longer have any value. Scarcity alone won’t cut it. Scarcity must also come with utility for something to be valuable.

Dettol-tasting-menu

Yes. ETF is also the worst from self sovereignty standpoint. It’s buried within layers of custodians and Authorized Participants and redemption mechanisms and even after the so called “redemption”, you’d only get fiat back. The bitcoin involved won’t see the light of day again. Exchanges, for all their fragility and shortcomings, are just one step away from true self custody. Just one withdrawal request and boom you get real sats in your wallet.

riscten

Agreed, except I'd swap the first two levels. Bitcoin on an exchange is IMHO the absolute worst way to hold. It's all the downsides of cryptocurrency with all the downsides of traditional banking. With the ETF you at least get the benefit of having your money protected by the FDIC.

atlasayn

The cycle isn't dead but it's getting noisier. We track this with a multi-factor approach: MVRV, days since halving, ATH drawdown, 200W SMA distance, and supply in profit %. By those metrics we're in a POST-PEAK / LATE-CORRECTION zone — not the clean "up only" mid-cycle most people expect. The real shift is macro coupling. BTC/SPX correlation swings between 0.55 (moves with stocks) and near-zero (independent). When coupling is high, a Fed decision matters more than halving supply math. When it's low, on-chain metrics dominate. Knowing which regime you're in matters more than whether "the cycle" exists. The 4-year structure probably persists as a loose framework, but the amplitude and timing are getting distorted by ETF flows, institutional rebalancing, and macro regime shifts. The cycle is real. The clockwork precision people expect from it is not.

Dear-Director-6043

I feel like very few people are talking about the lack of structural damage from this drawdown. Last bear market, SBF was convicted as a fraud, exchanges were liquidated, and there weren’t any real catalysts to pull it out for years. Now we have had no bankrupted exchanges (yet!), clarity act and institutional adoption is picking up daily (Morgan Stanley ETF, Franklin Templeton) clacclarClarity Act

joos_hubert

Mostly yes. Crypto news can move Bitcoin for a few hours, but the bigger moves still seem to come from dollar liquidity, rates, ETF flows, and general risk appetite. The crypto-specific stuff matters more when it changes the long-term demand story, otherwise macro usually wins.