ETF

_paydao

I agree — this looks much more like a demand problem than a miner problem. For me, the clearest sign the void is over would be sustained ETF inflows plus obvious whale accumulation showing up on-chain at the same time.

Mammoth_Bank790

Why invest in a token when you can invest in an Crypto & Blockchain ETF?

MrKillerKiller_

Little by little, yes. National currency for El Salvador and Central African Republic. ETF’s for mainstream retirement funds. US President declaring US’s crypto holdings as a Strategic National Asset. It’s approaching a more legitimate side of the global lexicon now.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

IndianaGeoff

Where are significant new buyers coming from since ETF demand is past the rush stage.

RickJamesBoitch

I would have done better putting my money in an S&P 500 ETF 5 years ago.

Dependent_Code7796

Adoption will keep growing. Besides the ETF’s institutional adoption hasn’t even really begun yet. With the passing of the clarity act, every financial institution will officially recognize bitcoin as a legit commodity and they will all want a piece of the pie. Between that and all the consistent buys from the treasury companies, it seems like a supply shock would be inevitable and imminent, barring any major black swan events.

J_Jelizah

I have my 100 LTC in cold wallet strange thing is litecoin has more transactions than bitcoin, has ETF, most of supply is in circulation, has optional privacy with MWEB, now with LitVM smart contracts are being integrated. However, didn’t see affect on price yet

1hty

You do better of investing those pennies into just one like BTC or some ETF stock.

Romanizer

That's it. In European law, an ETF has to include more than one product so funds that only hold Bitcoin are ETPs.

Electronic-Spite-421

really? If I said you could buy a "share" in something for a dollar that SOME people thought might increase to a million dollars in ten years, you couldn't imagine investing in that? just playing devil's advocate with an extreme example. but it's all on a continuum. there's a difference between putting 20 bucks on a single number at the roulette table for fun, and your mortgage equity I don't personally believe bitcoin or other crypto is likely to have such a wild jump as the above example. but, the fact bitcoin's been around so long, and seen such crazy gains, is held by multiple governments, now has ETF funds available with blackrock, etc, that I can hold in a tax-advantaged account, makes it seem like a highly volatile asset that MIGHT go up 10x or 100x in the coming decades \*shrug\* so that's literally the only high-risk part of my portfolio. 3%. the rest is boring, safer, index funds. I figure, if I lose all the bitcoin value, I won't lose sleep. it'll be a "phew, glad I wasn't dumb enough to invest most of my money in that!" but IF it goes up 10-100x, I'll be kicking myself for not investing in SOME exposure

WellieWelli

Quite positive honestly. The fundamentals that got it this far are the same fundamentals we have today that will continue pushing it forward. Beyond that, institutional adoption is skyrocketing, most of the largest global banks are integrating Blockchain into their systems and recommending bitcoin. Bitcoin ETFs are expanding and an upcoming ETF by Morgan Stanley's has the potential to double the current capital coming in from ETFs. The number of financial institutions recommending and integrating bitcoin into portfolios has expanded massively and is continuing to expand. It's reaching levels where the standardisation of bitcoin allocations is becoming possible. The tokenisation of assets & Blockchain settlement rails becoming mainstream, the new York stock exchange & London stock exchange are both building tokenized trading and on rail settlement platforms and NASDAQ just announced token settlement plans & partnerships for xStocks. As the use of AI agents grow, transacting anonymously between each other much of this is being done on-chain bypassing traditional finance. Stablecoin growth is skyrocketing with MasterCard implementing Blockchain technology. Corporate & business accumulation growing and accelerating. Recent SEC Framework classifying bitcoin as a commodity, clarity act getting closer. I find it hard being negative when there's so much positive momentum on the ground.

StrategicallyLazy007

I think it's the European version of an ETF

Fritzbox5000

May I ask where you're from? I'm from Germany, transitioned from a classic ETF investor into a Bitcoin maximalist mostly for ideological reasons. I didn't want to invest in "safe" companies like Microsoft, Facebook, McDonalds and others, which are supporting warfare campaigns in the middle east or destroy the middle class. I also didn't want to keep my FIAT money on the bank due to inflation and the fact that banks are investing my money in dubiose finance products in the meantime. However, I'm not satisfied with the sole strategy of HODLing my capital but actually use this currency in my daily life. There is the Lightning Network for fast transactions (which I never tried and used), but are there any places where a Bitcoin only cashflow and ecosystem is possible? Are there any people out there, who managed to get a Bitcoin-paid job, buy food with Bitcoin etc. or is this something we won't even see in 20 years?

WellieWelli

The fundamentals that got it this far are the same fundamentals we have today that will continue pushing it forward. Beyond that, institutional adoption is skyrocketing, most of the largest global banks are integrating Blockchain into their systems and recommending bitcoin. Bitcoin ETFs are expanding and an upcoming ETF by Morgan Stanley's has the potential to double the current capital coming in from ETFs. The number of financial institutions recommending and integrating bitcoin into portfolios has expanded massively and is continuing to expand. It's reaching levels where the standardisation of bitcoin allocations is becoming possible. The tokenisation of assets & Blockchain settlement rails becoming mainstream, the new York stock exchange & London stock exchange are both building tokenized trading and on rail settlement platforms and NASDAQ just announced token settlement plans & partnerships for xStocks. As the use of AI agents grow, transacting anonymously between each other much of this is being done on-chain bypassing traditional finance. Stablecoin growth is skyrocketing with MasterCard implementing Blockchain technology. Corporate & business accumulation growing and accelerating. Recent SEC Framework classifying bitcoin as a commodity, clarity act getting closer. I find it hard being negative when there's so much positive momentum on the ground, I think 150k is low balling.

ptrnyc

Finite supply. So less. Unless BTC goes to 0, but I personally believe that the ETF's made that extremely unlikely.

wkndatbernardus

No, it's only a wash sale if you sell a spot ETF, like IBIT, and then buy the same ETF right away (before 31 days has elapsed). The grey area is whether we can sell a spot ETF, like IBIT, and then buy another spot ETF, like FBTC, without waiting 31 days. Some financial pros say that strategy is not a wash sale because they are different securities, operated by different companies, and some say it is because they both track the exact same asset. Personally, I solved this problem by selling some IBIT at a loss and then purchasing MSTR with the proceeds.

TheresNoSecondBest

Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

MangoROCKN

Just like any ETF. Set and forget. Too many people investing with emotion

WeakEstablishment686

Wash sale rule does not apply to a direct Bitcoin holding (property) but does apply for a bitcoin ETF (security)

Meoler9

Well, you'll be at the mercy of the custodian/institution with your IOU. Maybe they'll allow you to withdraw the bitcoin that they should be holding for you to back the claim to the bitcoin you bought via the ETF. Maybe they'll price it and give you equivalent in the new currency they or the government tells them to use. Thankfully we can self-custody and don't need to worry about these things and can just have our bitcoin :)

darkrood

Are you really talking about the coin that failed to break its own 2021 ATH? All the risk with exchange and cold wallet for peanut gain? Your investment in stocks and ETF would be more profitable and secure.

MagnumMeatball

I'm also invested in an FTSE ETF which makes up a majority of my monthly DCA so i'm fine with the higher risk there. After all i only plan to hold the coin for 3-4 years, depending on the run, and the ETF is obviously for 15+ years.

isBecause

Say someone under 60 had $100k in a Roth IRA and decided they wanted to allocate 50% of that to BTC. Their only options are to buy the ETF or, if they wanted to buy spot and self-custody, withdraw and face possible penalty. If the dollar still exists in 20 years, we know BTC will go up in dollar terms and that $50k would increase as well and at some point be withdrawn tax free.

isBecause

I guess for me it's trying to wrap my head around not thinking in terms of dollars. If someone has $1 million worth of BTC ETF, as we know the dollar today, that's a lot of money and can buy a lot of stuff but yes, debasement is causing it to buy less stuff for that same amount over time. If there is a "new" dollar created due to hyperinflation, does that same "$1 million" have the same purchasing power? Probably an unknown question bc we're not there and no one knows what a society would look like in that scenario.

TheRadishBros

Unless I’m misunderstanding your question, if the dollar collapses, the value of BTC versus the dollar would increase, so the value of any ETF shares held would also increase. Even in hyperinflation scenario, there would be a “new” dollar created that has some exchange compared to the old one, so the ETFs can realign accordingly.

isBecause

Random question of the day in my head. If people are buying the BTC ETFs and money is flowing into BTC via retirement accounts, what happens to that if someday the dollar collapses? If money printing continues and the dollar price of BTC continues to increase but eventually the dollar doesn't exists, what happens to all the money that was put into ETFs? Is it just gone? Does the institution (Fidelity, etc.) just keep all the BTC? Would it be dispersed to the ETF shareholder like now you get the actual BTC instead of just shares bc the dollar is worthless?

andreaste

The funniest part is this isn't even a meme anymore. Oil is literally trading more volume than XRP on a decentralized exchange right now. The S&P 500 just launched on-chain. Grayscale filed for a HYPE ETF. Traditional finance is migrating to crypto rails and most people are still arguing about which altcoin will 10x.

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Subject-Chest-8343

To be fair though, this never happened with BTCC, the other canadian bitcoin ETF... So no idea what happened here. I thought these ''non-cash distributions'' were mostly a REIT thing. You can also straight up buy IBIT in Canada, it is listed both in US and canadian dollars. We've had BTCC and EBIT since 2021, well before IBIT came around. They also both use cold storage instead of a Coinbase account, like IBIT does. Personally that's why I hold BTCC and not IBIT. >and should not scare you to hold a bitcoin ETF like IBIT. Best way to not care about it is to hold ETFs in a non-taxable account, of course.

Subject-Chest-8343

Not a tax expert here, all the ETFs I have are in my TFSA. But if you have a capital gain of 14k, doesn't that mean that you can adjust your cost basis to 104k, allowing you to claim a capital loss of 31k for 2026 ? That being said, I had no idea that kind of sh*t could happen with a bitcoin ETF... I'm holding BTCC, which never had any kind of distribution, despite having been around longer. A non-cash distribution of 8$ per share, on an ETF that was 43$ per share, is fricking wild.

Subject-Chest-8343

It's not really an unrealized gains tax, they're called ''phantom distributions''. It's when a fund realizes a capital gain, then the tax liability is passed to the holders. A good example is REIT. Let's say the fund sells a property for 20M$, that they had paid 10M$, but then they bought another property for 20M$. No cash is returned to shareholders, but someone has to pay the taxman for that 10M$ realized gain. When you're in a non-taxable account, you just don't worry about it. When you're in a taxable account, you have to pay the capital gains tax, but you can raise your cost basis by an equivalent amount, so you don't pay tax twice when you sell your shares eventually. All that being said, I have no idea why this happened in a bitcoin ETF. I own BTCC, another canadian bitcoin ETF, it's been around longer than EBIT, and never had any distributions, phantom or not.

gizram84

You didn't get screwed by the ETF. You got screwed by the Canadian tax law. Clown world taxes like this don't exist in civilized countries.

ObjectiveJackfruit35

Yes, they arbitrarily adjusted OPs cost basis up, but that's not the reason for the capital gains tax. The ETF that OP bought in Canada is technically classified as a mutual fund trust. As a result of this, whenever anyone holding that ETF sells for a profit, everyone in the ETF is included in the capital gain from the profits of other users. Enough people sold for a profit in the ETF that despite being negative overall, OP was taxed with a capital gain. It's a completely diabolical Canadian system. So, yes, their cost basis was increased, but what this actually means is that the loss OP sold for is now quite a bit more which they could use to offset other potential gains. Canada's bitcoin ETF is not user-friendly, at all.

ObjectiveJackfruit35

Damn that sucks dude. For anyone else outside of Canada, such as the US, this shit does not apply to you and should not scare you to hold a bitcoin ETF like IBIT. Canada has some fucked up tax laws for ETFs, holy shit.

DarthBen_in_Chicago

Their AUM is under $2 trillion or $4 trillion depending on year and source. $8 trillion would put them above Fidelity which they’re not. I’m all for more issuers which will drive down expense ratios. I just don’t think MS adding an ETF is going to do what you think.

TheresNoSecondBest

Yesterday. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

NielsAurora

FYI not just Bitcoin but almost any stock / ETF worldwide just gained 3-5% not just Bitcoin and crypto.

baIIern

Bitcoin is holding better than my ETF or gold even lol

Logical_Cockroach713

Does this app also show any ETF related info?

Objective-Choice6518

Not safe. I'd rather buy ETF than use a hot wallet

choicehunter

In theory, you may only have to pay interest and never actually pay back the loan. Many people do this with margin loans. The idea is that if the average growth rate exceeds the interest rate, you can continuously borrow against it, and as it grows you can borrow more and do this indefinitely whole only paying interest, but since your asset value grows at a higher average rate than the interest, you are always able to pull out more money than you lose paying off the interest. Many rich people do this so they never have to pay taxes since their income is just taken out as tax free loans and since they never sell the assets there is never a capital gains tax either. The critical fine print is ensuring you won't dip down below a margin call during a crash. It can be risky if someone plays risky. Strike has a pretty high interest rate and as I recall low pay back periods. If I was going to do it, I would move some of my stash to a spot ETF and use a competitive margin loan through a regulated broker for cheaper interest rates and better protection.

colemusic1

But again, you're correlating to two cycles that you mentioned (2018, 2022). Yes its true the halving cycle is predictable but unless we have decades and decades of data where in cycles, where institutional flows or structural changes are made in between, then we can't conclude with "it happened the last two times, this time is no different" It very well could be, but we can't base it off something like ETF's where we don't have anywhere near the amount of history to assume such

DarthBen_in_Chicago

Claiming to be the largest ETF? Not true.

WellieWelli

It wouldn't be overnight, but I don't think it's a stretch. Blackrock recommends 1-2% on average but it doesn't control its clients portfolios. Morgan Stanley has 8 Trillion in client assets that are *actively under their control* and they recommend up to 4% to their own financial advisors with Morgan Stanley Global Investment Committee (GIC) advising clients to allocate a minimum of 2%. They will be allocating a certain percentage by default, advisors are all incentivesed to integrate their ETF into clients portfolios. They're essentially standardising BTC allocation in a way no other ETF is.

ChanceCash6708

There are lots off altcoins, the first months there are lots of money going to this projects. But after that the price drops like 80 à 90%. There is the last week some more inflow in the BTC ETF’S I think we have seen the bottom and we're going to go higher.

Educational-Cap2401

BTC 20/ VWCE ETF 80 works for me

LNCrizzo

I'll admit I don't know much about how MS operates, but I find it hard to believe they are going to allocate that much by default across the entire 8 trillion they manage. Don't their advisors have some autonomy in what they recommend? Don't their clients get to make the final decision on how their money gets invested? I looked on their website and they seem like they don't manage their client's funds unilaterally. They can recommend until they're orange in the face, doesn't mean people are going to do it. If their ETF breaks $100B in the next few years I'll happily eat a shit sandwich and say you were right, but I doubt it.

WellieWelli

Wrong. Current largest ETFs is Blackrock, which recommends 1-2% on average and doesn't control it's clients portfolios. Morgan Stanley has 8 Trillion in client assets that they *actively control* and they recommend up to 4% to their own financial advisors. They will be allocating a certain percentage by default, advisors are all incentivesed to integrate their ETF into clients portfolios. They're essentially standardising BTC allocation in a way no other ETF is.

Thick-Ad5921

40% ETF inside a TFSA for hope/lottery ticket and 60% cold storage for long term store of value and hedge against currency ($CAD) debasement.

Wheaties4brkfst

I mean these things aren’t like mutually exclusive. It can be a mirage and you can still make money on offering services for it. They’re not directionally exposed to bitcoin by offering an ETF.

Samrat011

Another sign that the institutional adoption phase of Bitcoin is still expanding. Every new ETF channel makes BTC easier for traditional portfolios to access.

MattBonne

Yes that’s the only exception. Still, better ETF options out there than MSBT

MattBonne

Yes that’s the only exception. Still won’t buy MSBT, better ETF choices are out there.

Laukess

He's probably buying it with his fiat salary, which he would otherwise use to buy ETF's. So I guess you could say he's buying it with ETF's

FromThePits

He's not buying his bitcoin with ETF's, is he?

IllllIIlIllIllllIlll

OP never talked about fiat, they talked about broad index ETF. I don't know why this false dichotomy is always brought up in this sub.

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KateR_H0l1day

With the STRC success, and Strategy buying BTC in volume, many investors are happy to get a steady income stream thanks to BTC. This is giving valuable support to BTC, that’s not been seen before in the downturn, the normal cycle has been disrupted by ETF’s and BTC-TC’s. This is not to say there won’t be another leg down, because I think it will go down again, but not to levels many are predicting! Just IMO of course 🤷‍♀️

ReceptionSmall9941

ETF wrappers can expand access, but sustainability still depends on fee structure, liquidity depth, and staking mechanics over time. The headline is interesting, though the underlying product details will matter most.

colemusic1

While you may be pointing out patterns in the history of market analysis, it doesn’t necessarily mean that’s going to happen exactly as it were in the previous cycles. A lot of things have changed. ETF flows exist now (huge difference already), liquidity dynamics are deeper & different, institutional flows are significantly higher. This reduces downside extremities a lot more than earlier cycles (such as 2018, as well as even 2022). I’ll always agree that patterns are important to follow and the history of market analysis from it, but further context of what’s changed since previous cycles is important to include to know why although it’s possible it could revisit such lows, it’s not likely. I’d say it’s highly unlikely in fact

TheresNoSecondBest

**Time in the market beats timing the market.** Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

ReceptionSmall9941

Sentiment can stay extreme longer than expected, so price holding support matters more than headlines alone. I’d watch spot volume and ETF flows together to judge whether this is accumulation or just a pause before another leg down.

TheresNoSecondBest

**Time in the market beats timing the market.** Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Today I purchased my first 1% of coin. Congrats on getting your first million sats! >Any advice tou can give me? Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. DCA is probably the best approach. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. **Hardware Wallets** (larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. If you can afford it, opt for Safe 7 (air-gapped) and use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor). Sadly, this device is not air-gapped. [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, making is an expensive hot wallet. The opposite of what you want from a cold wallet. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. The same goes for many other hardware wallets that are too new or filled with too much of unnecessary shitcoin code. Stay away. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

JerseyJimmyAsheville

Although Strategy made strong buys in 2025, because of the price, it limited their ability to acquire quantity. As for Bitcoins price action, the four year cycle appears to be intact as it pertains to new all time highs and all time lows. Lastly, the price action may be more muted as these Bitcoin Treasury Companies begin to hold, hoard, and not use the digital asset. Many people expected Bitcoin to push well above the $126K it achieved, I myself thought it would achieve a $207K price target, but it only doubled its halving price, so maybe, maybe, it was in part due to the ETF’s, options, and Bitcoin Treasury Companies. Only my opinions of course.

2xfun

The US announces the bitcoin strategic reserve. The ETF was approved. Everything was bullish last bull cycle and we had apathy.  Interest is gone and idk what will it take to bring it back.

Robotoverlordv1

It's a great time to buy in. You might see it get down to 55k USD, but that's unlikely and not that big of a discount from 70k USD. This is close to the same price you could get Bitcoin even before the ETF's,genius act,clarity act and more!

thinkingperson

Also out there in public domain, 75% of iBit ETF is from retail. If that is any representation to go by, then it is mainly retail scrambling to buy with institutions forming a minority for now.

Subject-Chest-8343

There are ETFs that don't use Coinbase, or any third party at all. For instance, BTCC has been listed on the Toronto stock exchange since 2021, trades in both US and Canadian dollars, and all the bitcoin is held in cold storage by the ETF issuer themselves. I think FBTC from Fidelity is similar, and US listed.

JerseyJimmyAsheville

You may not agree with people like me that use the Bitcoin cycle to trade and make money, so while I believe in the structure of Bitcoin, and love the limited availability of the crypto itself, I’d challenge you not to close your eyes to opportunities that exist. Things to think about and that I ponder daily: Is the 4 year cycle still valid? How have ETF’s changed the game? How have puts and calls impacted BTC? Why was 2025 the first down year? And did the bear cycle start early? 2026 is the first cycle that Bitcoin broke through its previous halving Price for the first time in history. Does it matter who is really buying and selling the asset? Strategy has been buying since 2020-2021, and I’d argue that it has not impacted the volatility, the price action, or the Bitcoin Cycle. I try to balance all of these factors when investing in this particular asset…why, because I will not watch an asset that I own drop from $126K to $40K, know it’s coming, and not take advantage of it. You can hold it all you want, and wait every 4 years to pound your chest, but I will not stand idly by watching $100 bills go down the drain.

DoubleRNL

Start with no meme coins. And if you want less volatility , think about investing in ETF stocks instead of crypto

GamerRevizor

That’s a fair concern - with iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT) you’re accepting custodial risk from Coinbase in exchange for tax advantages. Many people hedge this by splitting between ETF exposure and self-custody to balance risk and control

kajunkennyg

this was broken this cycle because the early ath, was because of the ETF stuff, the important part is after the ath you can figure about a year of bear market. So look for a low this fall and then we start the climb back up to a new ath.

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Ok-Vegetable-8900

Good take — this kind of divergence is where things get interesting. Price action looks strong short term, but ETF outflows aren’t something I’d ignore. When retail momentum and institutional flow disagree, it usually doesn’t resolve cleanly. I’m leaning toward a short-term pullback or at least chop before any continuation. Feels like late longs might get shaken out first. That said, if structure holds after a dip, that’s probably the better entry anyway. Seen similar disconnects on smaller markets too — sentiment pushes price fast, but flows take longer to confirm. Sometimes that lag creates opportunity if you’re patient.

BitChick

We moved our IRAs into a Roth Ira and now hold bitcoin in an ETF (fbtc.)  Potentially we will save thousands, if not hundreds of thousands depending on growth, when we are old enough to sell tax free.

ElephantEarTag

I'm actually in a similar scenario to you. I recently fired my financial advisor and I'm going to self-manage my retirement accounts including my 401k, 2 Roth's and a brokerage. I have decided to allocate 5% to bitcoin, which will go in my Roth because of its high growth potential. The ETF I am going with is Fidelity Bitcoin fund (FBTC). The reason I'm choosing Fidelity is because they are one of the most established and largest financial institutions in the country. If Fidelity goes down, then we are all completely screwed anyways. They are a well established company. Can I say for certain that they won't get hacked? No I can't. The one thing I don't like about this ETF is the expense ratio of 0.25%. it doesn't seem that high, but when compared to the other vETFs like VTI it's quite a bit higher.

Forded_Fiction24

IBIT uses Coinbase for a custodian. With FBTC, Fidelity holds it themselves. So my strategy is to mitigate the custodial risk at least somewhat by buying both equally into my Roth. I also custody my own Bitcoin as well and more of it, but find the risk personally acceptable and didn't want to deny myself the huge potential benefit of holding Bitcoin ETFs within my Roth. Everyone's risk tolerance differs and some aren't tolerant of the risks associated with Bitcoin ETF, while others like myself are

omg_its_dan

I do both. For me the level of risk is not enough to offset the tax benefits so I’m fine with the ETF for these accounts. At the same time, I retain a separate holding of real bitcoin purchased with post tax money.

Ok_Art_231

TULIP/BITCOIN ETF???? Holy shit

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Suguha_chan

if BTC up too much, I buy more shares of an all world ETF. If BTC goes down again, I buy more BTC

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tldr; Altcoins in AI and privacy sectors surged as Bitcoin hit $75K before pulling back to $74K. Zcash rose 17.9%, while AI tokens like Bittensor gained 37% over the week. Experts attribute the rally to macro liquidity, institutional Bitcoin ETF inflows, and demand for decentralized infrastructure. Privacy coins like Monero and Zcash benefit from AI's need for confidential data handling. Analysts remain optimistic but note declining spot volume and skepticism about a broader altcoin season before 2026. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

TheresNoSecondBest

>Is there like an official bitcoin website where i can buy them There's no "official Bitcoin website" like there's no official water website. Bitcoin is a decentralized network. Many sites are buying and selling water/bitcoin but none of them are official. >and how long does it usually take to make a profit Knowing about bitcoin this early, is the profit, mate. Anyway, read/bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://21vox.com/dca-calculator) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

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tldr; The U.S. SEC has officially classified 18 crypto assets, including Bitcoin, Ether, Solana, and XRP, as digital commodities rather than securities under federal law. This decision, detailed in a 68-page interpretive release, introduces a five-category token taxonomy and provides regulatory clarity for these assets. The move marks a shift from the SEC's previous enforcement-heavy approach and aims to facilitate institutional adoption and ETF applications. The classification aligns with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission's framework and serves as an interim measure while Congress advances related legislation. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

choppyish

FTX collapse and bitcoin ETF. There’s a new ATH

Funk4Bob

Yeah, that's a solid approach. I used to be a trader, and the first thing you learn is that panic selling is a guaranteed way to lose. If someone can't handle a 20% dip in a boring ETF, they'll get wrecked in crypto. What do you think is the main thing missing for beginners? Is it just the emotional discipline, or do they not have the right tools to track things without getting stressed?

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quiaro21

I have a three tier system to move money down from risky to safe. I have predefined ratios of crypto, speculative ETF and "Safe" ETF. Whenever something hits a trigger (the portfolio is somehow unbalanced) money moves down to a less risky tier. My tiers are Crypto -> Leveraged ETF -> Dividends ETF. Crypto is the engine, but money slowly moves down to the lowest tier, which is the one I hope it will pay for my retirement. I'm more emotionally attached to the lowest tier than to the upper two, because I feel the upper two are just free money out of luck. The only money I actually use, are the dividends generated by the lowest tier.

Ok-Vegetable-8900

If you’re coming from stocks and thinking long-term, I’d stick mostly to majors and only take small bets on smaller caps. My core watchlist right now: Bitcoin – still the cleanest macro bet. It’s basically becoming digital gold with strong institutional flows and ETF demand. Ethereum – backbone of DeFi and smart contracts. Upgrades are improving scalability and keeping it relevant long term.  Solana – higher risk but strong growth in apps, trading, and user activity. Feels like the “high beta” play in this cycle.  For smaller caps, I’d only look at projects with real infrastructure use cases (like oracles, DeFi rails, etc.), not hype narratives. IMO the edge isn’t picking the perfect coin, it’s position sizing and not overexposing to speculative stuff. Most people lose by going too far down the risk curve too early.

SubstantialKey6828

This pump to $75k feels like a combination of positive regulatory signals in key regions and investors front-running potential ETF inflows – the market’s definitely reacting to a perfect storm of bullish factors. I’ve been exploring different platforms to manage my trades better, and BYDFi has caught my eye with their recent updates. One thing that stood out is their TradFi Spot Carnival promotion – super low barrier to entry where trading just $1 gets you VIP1 and a shot at sharing $50k total. They’re also running a "Seize Market Opportunities" initiative with unique perks for active traders, and I was happy to see their perpetual futures data is now integrated with TradingView so I can track everything in one place I’m already used to.

cashflashmil

Right now I’m keeping it pretty simple. BTC is still the anchor. Most of the liquidity, institutional flows, and macro exposure run through it, so if you’re building a base position, it usually starts there. ETH is more of a bet on the broader ecosystem. Even when narratives shift, a lot of activity still settles on Ethereum in one way or another. It’s not always the fastest mover, but it’s tied to real usage. For a third pick, I’d look at infrastructure plays rather than random small caps. Things connected to real flows like exchanges, stablecoins, or tokenization trends. That’s where a lot of quiet growth is happening right now, even if it’s not the most hyped part of the market. I’m not chasing memecoins at this stage. Those usually run later, when liquidity and risk appetite are already high. The bigger thing I’m watching isn’t specific coins, it’s: * Macro liquidity * ETF flows * Stablecoin supply Those tend to move the whole market more than any single project. If you want to get a better feel for the market faster, it helps to follow consistent crypto market analysis, not just random news. One useful format is a daily crypto newsletter that breaks down Bitcoin, Ethereum, macro liquidity, ETF flows, and overall market sentiment in simple terms. That’s why I read WebSnack - it’s a crypto newsletter focused on short, clear updates about what’s moving the market right now. It’s especially helpful if you’re trying to understand how macro events, institutional activity, and narratives actually affect crypto prices over time.

BonePants

Well 1 ETF does not mean 1 person. Same here. They buy for their investors.

BonePants

Well 1 ETF does not mean 1 person. Same here. They buy for their investors.

ZonkyNut

My recommendation would be to find a crypto ETF. Someone else manages it, you get a spread of underlaying coins which in the end is a better risk management stratergy.

goawayjoebro

reposting this from that comment section. Saylor himself having ownership of more than 5% of bitcoin is a real concern. However, many large firms (Vanguard, blackrock included) use MSTR as a part of their means of acquiring Bitcoin by proxy. Vanguard has a larger portion of MSTR stock, i think about 11%, Blackrock owns about 5% but has much larger stores of it's own BTC via the BTC ETFs. Blackrock's bitcoin ETFs by volume actually hold more Bitcoin than Saylor's company. Saylor has ~730,000 and Blackrock's total BTC ETF issuance is slightly more than that. What this signals is that there is increasing retail/big firm/tradfi adoption of Bitcoin. Strategy is actively being pried out of Saylor's hands. *Exact figures:* - BlackRock's iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT), its primary spot Bitcoin ETF, holds approximately 782,180 BTC as of March 16, 2026. - - MSTR holds 761,068 BTC as of today - Vanguard holds approximately 8.55% of MicroStrategy (MSTR) stock, while BlackRock holds approximately 5.8% - Blackrock AUM = ~14 trillion, Vanguard = ~12 Trillion

goawayjoebro

Saylor himself having ownership of more than 5% of bitcoin is a real concern. However, many large firms (Vanguard, blackrock included) use MSTR as a part of their means of acquiring Bitcoin by proxy. Vanguard has a larger portion of MSTR stock, i think about 11%, Blackrock owns about 5% but has much larger stores of it's own BTC via the BTC ETFs. Blackrock's bitcoin ETFs by volume actually hold more Bitcoin than Saylor's company. Saylor has ~730,000 and Blackrock's total BTC ETF issuance is slightly more than that. What this signals is that there is increasing retail/big firm/tradfi adoption of Bitcoin. Strategy is actively being pried out of Saylor's hands.

BumblebeeMurky3724

Gold & silver getting crushed on Fed rate hike fears, while crypto rips higher on ETF in flows & risk-on sentiment-same old story: traditional safe havens suck, digital assets print.

JuxtaposeLife

Fair point on pension funds and endowments. I am speaking mainly about individuals who have a choice... people who are fully capable of taking self-custody, yet choose IBIT instead. That is what I mean by surrendering upside, and potentially protection, in exchange for convenience, aka "laxy" My suspicion is that many of those investors have not fully thought through the structural tradeoff they are making. If IBIT, or similar products, do not end up reflecting Bitcoin’s scarcity as cleanly as people assume, then the downside may not simply be underperformance. In an extreme scenario, it could mean investors are left with cash settlement or repayment at some version of original cost basis, while Bitcoin itself has repriced dramatically higher. That is the deeper risk: not merely missing upside, but discovering too late that the vehicle was never as sovereign or scarcity-aligned as the underlying asset. And if the ETF structure ever proved to be looser in practice than investors believe... especially if “held” Bitcoin across products turned out to be less cleanly segregated than advertised... then convenience could end up being extraordinarily expensive.