ETF

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h311s

depends on the amount and risk ...if you really want to diversify you should go for other non crypto ETF...if you still want crypto which means more risk maybe you should pick 2 more max from the top 20

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WormHole_15

Monthly DCA 0/-20% from ath --> 500€ -20/-40% from ath --> 1000€ -40%/-60% from ath --> 2000€ -60%/-80% from ath --> 4000€ over -80% from ath --> 8000€ When new ATH happen, I slowly move balance from BTC to MSCI ETF until 75%/25% proportion is reached.

HumongousShard

This would be devastating for a stocks or even a broad market ETF portfolio I bet it will get watered down or scrapped by the next government before it has the chance to be enforced

Illustrious-Depth361

Bro, cold storage IS simple. Simple and beautiful, and perfect. My absolute best advice is to take a couple hours of your time to study and co sider cold storage once more. It's the most simple of all forms of conservation of your money. Easy method: - split your 24 words in 3 groups : A, B and C. - engrave A+B on one metal plate, B+C on a second and A+C on a third one. - store one at your home and the 2 others in a different geographical place (your parents basement, your office, your bank, a safe, etc) Get a TREZOR at home to get a new BTC address every time you move your purchase to cold storage. Take the time to really understand it. It ceases to appear complicated then. And boom, you have simplicity and the most robust form of self sovereignty. Not your keys not your coin. Can't trust banks with your future. If you're buying BTC because you think it's going up next year and wanna make a few bucks then okay. If you're buying Bitcoin because you want out of all of "this", then self custody is the way. Banks may fail you. ETF is paper bitcoin. YOU CAN DO THIS.

nafnaf0

Outflows from ETFs since the Oct 7, 2025 have been pretty small, only around 4.1% to today 2/15/2026. ETF selling hasn't been what has been driving price action.

BTCindicatorpanel

It’s just a worst-case scenario expectation, a social sentiment that usually plays out and forms a cycle. At least, that’s how it always worked before the ETF approval

Teqtoke

This whole thread is bananas. Like others said, if you just want to treat it as a short term investment to exchange back to fiat later, or get slight exposure, then get the ETF or buy on an exchange. Start thinking about self custody for larger amounts. But it is clear most people don’t really understand what Bitcoin is for, and why self custody matters. I suggest looking into this first. When CBDCs become reality and government controls our money, this is when this will matter. That said most of these coins are all KYC anyway, so there is that.

Small_Appearance2014

If you want simple, brokerage-style exposure, a Spot Bitcoin ETF is the easiest option. No wallets, no keys — just buy it like a stock. You get price exposure, but not self-custody.

GPThought

crowded shorts are literally free money for market makers. they just need to push price up 2-3% and the cascade of liquidations does the rest. last time shorts were this extreme BTC went from 26k to 48k in like two months. im not saying history repeats exactly but the setup is almost identical. record short interest + fear index in the teens + ETF inflows still positive = one hell of a squeeze brewing. not financial advice but if i was short btc right now i would not be sleeping well.

ithinkican2202

ETF

DA2710

They would buy ETF’s or mstr and call it Bitcoin

Cool-Duty-7416

Please don't. Invest in an SP500 ETF. Your 50 year old self will thank you.

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turick

If you wanted real bitcoin and not an ETF, the only exchange I would trust is River. They custody all of their clients bitcoin, publish their financials, and publish Proof of Reserves every month. And their customer service is second to none.

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tldr; Risk appetite in financial markets has surged, with U.S. equities showing strong bullish positioning, while Bitcoin lacks similar institutional conviction. Data indicates a divergence between traditional assets and crypto, with Bitcoin's spot demand metrics and institutional flows remaining weak. Key signals for Bitcoin's recovery include sustained positive Coinbase Premium, consistent ETF inflows, and spot-driven price strength. Until these align, Bitcoin's upside remains fragile despite favorable macro conditions like lower inflation and stable liquidity. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

WeakEstablishment686

DCA is the best strategy, some people increase their DCA amount the lower bitcoin price falls. I would also recommend DCAing into an ETF like VT. Each $ you contribute at 14 will be worth $2, $4, and $8 at ages 24, 34, 44. Might not seem like much now or too long of a wait, but consistency wins. Once your total invested gets large (~$300-500k), doubling every 10 years (or much less in bull market runs like the past 3), can really start to build wealth.

Jhonny_Crash

Hey, newbie here. Why is leaving BTC on the exchange a bad idea? And how does an ETF differ in this case?

gtrttt14

There is no such thing as buy and hold anymore. See for example you buy 10 BTF’s today for $100 each and don’t watch it anymore in 10 yrs and it goes up and down.Now you are at retirement age and it’s $80 you lost out on the whole game. There are a lot of ETF’s,volatility is less and you need to watch the market closely. Buy low and sell high. Buy low again…..

Charming-Designer944

Invest via an ETF traded at your favorite investment platform and ignore that it is crypto. Handle it the exact same as another investment.

Legal-Net-4909

If you want simple brokerage style exposure and don’t care about self custody, a spot Bitcoin ETF might fit what you’re looking for. It removes wallet management entirely, but you’re giving up direct control of the coins

Professional-Fee-957

I figure he has holdings in the Inverse [Inverse Cramer ETF](https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/inverse-cramer-etf-bets-against-mad-money-jim-cramer)

idkAboutYouMan

Invest in an ETF instead of bitcoin!!!

Mr_Ander5on

Another thing people don't realise is that your can turn off stock lending on a lot of brokerage accounts. I agree the derivative markets are bad for bitcoin in general, but anyone buying a portion of their exposure using registered accounts for preferential tax treatment should see if they can turn off stock lending. (Example, my country has capital gains on bitcoin... so while I stack real bitcoin for my kids in a cold wallet, the exposure that I plan to use to potentially buy some things later I do unfortunately buy an ETF in a tax free savings account. I wish it wasn't this way, but until there are no capital gains on bitcoin then it is)

bcoppari

ETF outflows

hannyayoukai

That's a good point, ETF inflows HAVE been a massive floor now.

rs1971

If you don't control your private keys, you are taking on counter party risk. There's no free lunch. Everyone is suggesting that you buy an ETF, but (almost?) all of them custody their BTC with the exchanges anyway. I'm not saying 'don't buy an ETF', the odds are it will be fine. I'm just saying that no one can suggest a 'second best' option. Either you control your keys or you don't.

TheresNoSecondBest

Here's a guide I usually copypasta when I see people looking for answers. Read/bookmark it and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

pingAbus3r

If you want brokerage style exposure without managing keys, the closest fit right now is probably a spot Bitcoin ETF through a regular brokerage account. You get price exposure and don’t have to think about wallets at all. The tradeoff is you’re trusting the custodian and giving up actual self custody. Some people also use reputable custodial services that specialize in long term holding, but that still comes down to counterparty risk. It really depends on whether your priority is pure simplicity or having direct control over the coins.

Alarming_Focus_6557

Dealt with the same thoughts. Decided to buy spot BTC on a trustworthy exchange instead of buying ETF due to taxes. In Germany profit of „real“ BTC ist zero taxes after holding for 1 year. ETF however will be taxed ne matter how long you hold. Best is to check tax status before deciding.

stellarfirefly

Just go with any trusted brokerage, whether dealing directly with BTC or using a Spot ETF.

Scary_Metal2884

We did a study of the ETF IBIT, HODL, BTC. Both IBIT and HODL have lowest slippages. IBIT fees are much higher than HODL. IBIT has a deeper order book in case you are afraid of moving the market with your orders. I eventually went with HODL for lower fees

Horror-Sector7498

But Bitcoin isn’t positioned like a stock — it’s closer to digital scarcity / a decentralized monetary network. People invest in it as a hedge against monetary expansion, not for cash flow like an ETF. The real distinction is: Stocks = ownership of productive companies. Bitcoin = censorship-resistant, fixed-supply money. Whether that has long-term value depends on whether you believe decentralized money matters.

Aurorion

I don't think SIPC covers tail risks such as ETF holdings getting hacked. But yeah, ETFs are a much better option than leaving on exchanges, and easier for the average investor. To reduce risk further, just diversify across multiple ETFs such as IBIT, FBTC, FBTC, etc.

hannyayoukai

How when the ETF is supposed to follow the price of Bitcoin?

trimbandit

Or just buy ETF on a reputable brokerage and be covered by SIPC in the unlikely event they go belly up

ScorpseLy

Regarding buying crypto on Vanguard, their offerings are mostly ETFs so far. On the other hand, OpenSea gives you more direct access to crypto trading through wallet-based swaps, crossing chains like Ethereum and Base. Does anyone here mix ETF investing with OpenSea's direct token swaps?

columbusabsolute

Whales cashing in on capital gains after $126K ceiling didn’t break in fourth quarter of 2025 also something about ETF being bulled back or something along those lines.

Substantial-Sea3046

paper bitcoin, like others say, ETF,ETC keep in mind ETF value could decrease and real btc value will explode when institutional will be prohibited from mortgaging Bitcoin multiple times without real btc

bonsaitreehugger

I had a Ledger years ago. I don't like having to deal with secret words. Transferring is annoying. Also, the Ledger started glitching out after awhile. Probably just need an ETF.

Villavillacoola

ETF

SpruceJuice5

Welcome to Ireland, where you're taxed at 38% on unrealised gains on ETF's. Used to be 41% before this year. Excellent way to stop the middle class from investing. Great to see the Netherlands follow the most braindead tax policy around

Darryl_444

Sold all by averaging out during Q4 2025. Decent gains, dodged the cyclical bullet. Immediately bought a BTC-shorting 1X ETF (BITI, available in $CAD or $USD) with 1/3 of the proceeds. Rest into low-risk, low-yield liquid investments. Plan to exit short position around late Q3 2026, and look to re-enter BTC bull market again in Q4 2026 or Q1 2027, it probably won't make much difference.

RespectFront1321

Barron got the inside scoop from the SEC on the BCH ETF.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Truth Social, the social media platform associated with President Trump, has filed for a Bitcoin and Ethereum exchange-traded fund (ETF) with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). This move signifies the platform's entry into the cryptocurrency market, aiming to leverage the growing interest in digital assets. The filing aligns with a broader trend of financial institutions seeking regulatory approval for cryptocurrency investment products. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Alarming-Jello-5846

Look into how Grayscale schemed pre-ETF approval. They were charging 2% on the fucking NAV even when they were at a deep discount. Fucking criminals.

dubble22

Buy and quality assets. Boring investments like JnJ , shell, chevron ect. Reinvest dividends . Or set and forget with a low expense ETF like VOO. Investing is not rocket science . I love BTC, but I also think of BTC in terms of terms of ten years +

2xfun

Which banks? Surely you are not talking about the ETF brokers 

kneebeards

If they can't handle self custody they should not do it. The ETF is a good way to exchange the risk of losing the keys and access completely for the risk that comes with trusting an exchange or fund. You can disagree but adding "shit idea" is the hallmark of a reductive perspective.

OrcOgi

I have been short coinbase since high 300. The reasoning was obvious 1) Coinbase ears money from traders, not holders. They need an altseason for this 2) Altseason is fuelled by speculators, those people have left for the prediction markets 3) Hence why Coinbase is shifting towards stocks, prediction market as well 4) All of this with a lack of altseason is a clear death indicator for Coinbase. They have no moat when most of retail buys crypto via ETF now. GG Coinbase

Jrsq270

I buy as FBTC. Bought 10k this morning Holding 230k in ETF.

Anonymous_Lurker_1

Personally, I plan to HODL long term. I'm thinking another 10 years. I'll see where we are then. You might want to check your ISA rules. I believe if you're holding actual BTC, ISA's aren't eligible after April, and you won't get the same benefits as you do currently. I held IB1T on T212 too and sold around Christmas time. I think T212 will just automatically cash in the value and you have to open an IFISA instead. I am still considering IB1T again though. Keep what I have in cold storage, and let T212 manage my keys. Against the BTC ethos, I know, but I want to cover all bases. I do think MSTR is worth having too - though I haven't got any currently. When I did have some MSTR, I held a few others too that performed well whilst BTC was around ATH - check out GLXY, HIVE, RIOT and MARA. I simplified my stocks into an All World ETF and a few individuals with small allocations, but I am thinking of lump buying some of the above again. When BTC rips, BTC-related stocks rip more (though they drop more than BTC drops too).

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Most people, even HBAR holders, do not realize how groundbreaking Hashgraph and the Hedera network are. It's fast, fair, and secure. Blockchains are neither of the three. The invention of the Hashgraph algorithm solved a previously unsolvable computer science problem - how to do aBFT security at scale (aBFT being the highest possible security for distributed computer systems). So, Hashgraph is literally the perfect consensus algorithm. I'm talking on a physical level, the amount of bytes sent between nodes to share information and come to consensus is already at the absolute minimum. It's perfectly secure and efficient. This algorithm is then used to build the Hedera network which is legally owned and operated by a public decentralized council of term-limited global enterprises. So, we have the best tech and also the most trustworthy governance (tech is open source but you can't fork governance). HBAR is the most unique coin in the whole space. Most people are going to midcurve this . Don't think too hard about it - this is factually the best ledger in the world and it's becoming the trust layer of the internet which connects everything. And yes, it has an ETF

No_Giraffe_4647

Not all instruments are crashing my IGE ETF is performing correctly When economy crashes on uncertainty plus the gold/silver that have skyrocketed is creating a weird scenario where there is profit taking on commodities while the stocks getting sluggish for most part. I am still confident on commodity market, the fear is hitting crypto market the most then stocks then commodities.

OsChMoScH

I think some ETF will have to be liquidated eventually, because it's not worth maintaining them. Afaik, that happened to normal ETFs too.

TheresNoSecondBest

You look confused, mate. Read/bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

Newbie123plzhelp

Store two copies of your seed phrase on metal plates and one on paper. Wipe and test recovery before transfering large amounts to it. At the end of the day if you're not tech competent no shame in using an ETF, self custody is not for everyone.

MrMpeg

Interesting is that no one showed up here claiming it's going to zero when the price was up. Now you see all these doubters looking for confirmation that they're right not buying while I'm relaxed as never before. Previous cycles whe had real threats but now now with ETF's, Banks and Countries involved you're doubting if it has staying power? Lol.

Affectionate_Sky_168

While I applaud the level of self awareness, having it on exchange or in an ETF means you in fact OWN precisely zero bitcoin. Possession of the private keys is necessary for this to be the case. ask anyone involved with an exchange blow up who owned their bitcoin. 

Aurorion

This. Bitcoin ETFs are safer than direct purchases and leaving on exchanges. You could also diversify across multiple ETFs, rather than putting all your eggs in one single ETF.

Cold_Respond_7656

That’s incorrect ETF name & symbol Fee Grayscale Bitcoin Mini Trust (BTC) 0.15% Franklin Templeton Digital Holdings Trust (EZBC) 0.19% Bitwise Bitcoin ETF (BITB) 0.20% VanEck Bitcoin Trust (HODL) 0.20%* Ark 21Shares Bitcoin ETF (ARKB) 0.21% iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT) 0.25% Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund (FBTC) 0.25% WisdomTree Bitcoin Fund (BTCW) 0.25% Invesco Galaxy Bitcoin ETF (BTCO) 0.25% CoinShares Bitcoin ETF (BRRR) 0.25% Hashdex Bitcoin ETF (DEFI) 0.25% Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) 1.50%

Hot_Philosopher3199

lol. Dude. ETF. You are the poster child for a person who NEEDS ETF rather than the real thing.

Shaykh_Hadi

I’m more scared of keeping it on an exchange. Just save your 12 words on metal. If you’re too scared, buy the Bitcoin ETF. Simple. P

Educational_Bunch574

Which ETF dropped 50%? Thats crazy

HugeLarry

If you trust yourself 100% and want full control with all the responsibility that entails, then go for full self custody. However that’s not the only reasonable or “real” option for all people. It’s true that the risk of self-custody user error is higher than third-party custodial risk for some people. If those people want BTC exposure as an investment, and if they trust their financial institutions, then why shouldn’t they own BTC through an ETF or through their financial institutions keeping custody on their behalf? It’s worth mentioning that exchanges aren’t the only custodians available. For example, Fidelity can now custody BTC, and although there’s risk with any custodian, I think it’s silly to claim that Fidelity is just as risky as any random crypto exchange. A lot of the people who want BTC exposure and don’t want to deal with self custody probably already have a bunch of assets with companies like Fidelity, so it’s a natural step for them. My view is that self custody, third-party custody, and the ETFs are not mutually exclusive, and that the ideal distribution across those depends on each person’s specific circumstances. Splitting BTC across those methods can be advantageous because it removes any single point of failure. If you screw up and lose your keys, at least you still have some BTC in ETFs or third-party custody. Similarly, if your custodian tanks or your government tries to seize assets, you still have your self-custody BTC. Another important consideration is that the ETFs have big tax advantages when held in retirement accounts. Logically, I agree with “Not your keys, not your coins”, but of course “Lose your keys, not your coins” is also true. Taking a broad view, our whole society is still based on trust. Trust between people. Trust between entities, etc. I’m a big fan of how BTC can be used in a totally trustless way, but I also think it’s reasonable to say that some people might want to trust other people / companies to take care of BTC on their behalf. Yes, they are taking a risk, but we’re all taking different risks all the time, and we all have to decide which ones we can live with. \--- Note: This response is largely copy/paste from another thread I commented on which ended up getting removed. Now I've found a new home for it!

BeachedinToronto

That was quite a rant. Not a lot of it makes sense. What if you already own the television? It is an investment. People care about what the price does. If you already own a lot of the investment and you are not buying more (diversification) then you are not excited for cheaper prices/dips as you maybe don't want another buying opportunity. Not everyone wants to keep stacking sats with everything they have. Wall Street and soon most banks will be all in on Stablecoins. Bitcoin will never be permitted to be anything but a store of value now. The lack of volatility in Stable coins exploits one of Bitcoins many weaknesses. Who wants to pay with bitcoin when it can lose 50% of its value in 4 months? Soon stablecoins/tokenization will be the next big thing fueling more gambling/more stock speculation and far less people will move into or consider Bitcoin. I was excited about ETF adoption and Treasuries but I am now beginning to think that the whole BTC adoption is slowing dramatically.

Hitachi22

It's looking more and more like a failed experiment that never gained adoption. It was a great idea, having a global peer to peer digital currency but it's accepted at even less places now than in 2017. Early adopters were the only ones that got rich. Now it's just another asset that wall Street can manipulate and milk the ETF fees for all eternity.

RefrigeratorOwn1224

I'm buying ETF shares. I expect BTC to hit $50,000.

_Panda

The reason for the AP structure is that it makes them much more tax efficient. In a mutual fund structure (what you imagine), every time the mutual fund has to sell assets to redeem customers wanting to cash out shares it generates taxable events that affect all fund holders even if they themselves did not cash anything out. The ETF structure isolates so that you are only exposed to taxable events when you sell your own shares. Of course it means that APs get a small payout, but that is part of the expense ratio and most passive ETFs have very low overall expenses. Of course buying and holding the base assets for yourself means no expense ratios to worry about, but there are plenty of other responsibilities and risks that entails.

AstroRoverToday

You can't lose what you don't have. If you only invest in an ETF you aren't actually buying bitcoin. Your title suggests you want to own BTC. If that's what you want, then buy bitcoin. Once you own it, and you're careful with how you store it, you won't lose it.

word-dragon

Technically, you don’t own bitcoin, but a line on the ETF spreadsheet. If it’s in an IRA or a (non-solo) 401K, you’re probably stuck with the ETF.

stanktoedjoe

What ETF are buying?

Romanizer

That's exactly the point of the video. The IGV ETF that tracks tech stock correlates with Bitcoin even more. Traders still think Bitcoin is a tech stock. 4 year cycles are business cycles and coincide with liquidity regimes.

OwnHelicopter7255

Yep it’s the same it’s going down your right. But here’s the big difference, the more people that have been burned by bitcoin means less new capital that want to enter. It’s easier to attract suckers when those fools haven’t been burned already. Now what makes this also different is there’s no more new whale to bring in fresh capital, who can come in now, government? Already done, ETF’s? Done, stocks ? Done? Where’s the new cash coming from?

ILETOJUL

2026 Current Market outlook. The crypto market has entered a clear bear phase, down 40–50% from its October 2025 peak. Analysts expect weakness or sideways movement for another 3–8 months, with a possible bottom by mid to late 2026. A modest recovery could follow in the second half of the year as ETF inflows return and interest rate uncertainty fades. Some suggest the next uptrend will align with improving global liquidity rather than the traditional halving cycle timeline.

OwnHelicopter7255

Stop calling it a “crypto winter” Call it what it is, bear market and trust me this time you’ll lose big money holding in. If the US government, Strategy, ETF’s and so forth can’t hold its price then you’re fucked. This isn’t like “all the other crashes” this is a knife dropping

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

If you want to fight the corrupt system the only way is self custody, ETF holders or exchange users are not part of the revolution.

rgnet1

The answer is that spot ETFs sit in the middle. They're not derivatives. They must be settled, so actual bitcoin must move around as the shares are bought and sold. But it doesn't happen as quickly as bitcoin changing owners on exchanges, so it does impact liquidity. And low liquidity is not a derivatives friend. Reading about ETFs, by the way, I find it to be its own crazy system. You imagine that when customers buy shares in a spot ETF, the fund manager goes out and buys bitcoin. No. There are "Authorized Participants" (banks) that buy bitcoin, give it to ETF custodian, get shares for it, and THEN sells those shares on the market that you or I would purchase. Same in reverse. Bank redeems shares, get the bitcoin, then sells it in the market. The AP makes money on arbitrage. Sound like yet another scam to make banks money when people could just directly buy/sell themselves?

TheresNoSecondBest

>but I am suspicious about whether it can survive once the cost of mining becomes unprofitable, and once new coins effectively run out. This has been already explained in many comments. Simply, unprofitable mining makes mining for others more profitable. >I am considering dipping some baby-money into Bitcoin ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/app/](https://blockstream.com/app/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

ExactArugula6821

would be icing on the cake if this is after 401ks allowed ETF buys

s1cWid1T

Just look away otherwise you will be sick to your stomach wishing you sold the top just like every draw down ever. Review the power law, review all the positives. Remember this is blackrocks new bell cow and top earning ETF, they will not let it die unless they have to. Remember we have to utilize stablecoins to refinance our debt Citibank, Charles Schwab etc are new entrants More banks to come. There is a lot but you must keep understand it is a risk asset and not widely used as collateral in credit products. There are some lenders that are utilizing btc in real estate loans etc so it’s still finding its place in the traditional finance system for now it is just a volatility instrument. Hopefully it gets adopted, I imagine it will first through stablecoins and tether buying more and more for their reserves along with whatever happens to DATs. The world isn’t quite ready for bitcoin but soon enough it will be. Likely commoners really will not be using it at scale but some will. Most people got burned in ftx but they ultimately are not folks that had a pot to piss in for investments anyway and now dislike crypto because they lost gambling as they never invested a day on their lives and had never lived through volatility. Ramble ramble.

uncapchad

Legislation and Institutions have worked to keep retail away. Institutions couldn't get involved until there was legal clarity and they were also concerned about volatility. Now Institutions have stripped the volatility which makes it boring. The other issue is also legislation - from intensifying AML enforcement the world-over to blocking certain domains/entities operating outside of enforcement. In India for e.g. they got ISPs to block domains. Taxation & surveillance has been another avenue to frighten off retail - being kicked off exchanges, funds frozen etc. Add in a few rug pulls, hacks and of course the bull run that never came and yeah, retail just don't see the point. They'll buy an ETF or add a MSTR/STRF/STRC to a portfolio but the heady days of easily making bank are over.

GPThought

67k and the fear index is screaming. meanwhile ETF holders havent sold. retail panics, institutions accumulate. same story every dip

Kalelofindiana

Broad market ETF? Example please 🙏

No-Permit8369

Open a fidelity account, drop 20k into the contra fund and 10k into their bitcoin ETF. I’d spread it out too.

biba8163

> Crypto will pump with the Clarity Act, Genius Act... Reminder of the ETF hopium that would pump various cryptos. Desperate bagholders are being strung along again. It's always bait and switch from the old narrative to the new as the old narrative fizzles out. - ETH is down 🔻-42% since its first ETF launch in July 2024 - XRP is down 🔻-42% since its first ETF launch in November 2025 - LINK is down 🔻-30% since its first ETF launch in December 2025 - HBAR is down 🔻-52% since its first ETF launch in October 2025 - SOL is down 🔻-58% since its first ETF launch in October 2025 - LTC is down 🔻-52% since its first ETF launch in October 2025

biba8163

> Crypto will pump with the Clarity Act, Genius Act, the fight between banks and crypto exchanges for yield on stablecoins Who cares? None of this matters to crypto prices. Reminder of the ETF hopium that would pump various cryptos. Desperate bagholders are being strung along again. It's always bait and switch from the old narrative to the new as the old narrative fizzles out. - ETH is down 🔻-42% since its first ETF launch in July 2024 - XRP is down 🔻-42% since its first ETF launch in November 2025 - LINK is down 🔻-30% since its first ETF launch in December 2025 - HBAR is down 🔻-52% since its first ETF launch in October 2025 - SOL is down 🔻-58% since its first ETF launch in October 2025 - LTC is down 🔻-52% since its first ETF launch in October 2025

JumpedUpPantryBoyy

This is the smart thing to do IMO. In a S&P500, Total Market or All-World ETF, something like that.

hit_that_snare

Don’t put it all in BTC. I would recommend putting 20k into an all-world ETF like VWCE and the rest in BTC. Hedge the risk and diversify.

ChartSage

Fear index at 9 and we're seeing massive ETF inflows.

Last-Reception-2296

the digital gold narrative is having a bit of an identity crisis lately lol. it is interesting to see actual gold hitting records while BTC is behaving more like a high-beta tech stock. i honestly stopped trying to guess the reason why behind the price action because internet theories are just noise. my advice is to try some tools that track real-time institutional fund flows. it will help you see if the big players are actually exiting or just rebalancing so you dont end up as the exit liquidity. are you focusing on the total AUM movement or just the specific spot ETF outflows?

numbersev

There was a controversy last year between BlackRock and Coinbase over paper Bitcoin. Experts Weigh In on Coinbase-BlackRock “Paper Bitcoin” Spot ETF Rumors https://share.google/zkahPk23Or8TvhKVo

magus-21

Physical gold sucks. Just get a gold ETF.

ruibranco

saying the quiet part out loud — MSTR stopped being a software company years ago and is now a leveraged Bitcoin ETF with extra steps. the "we'll just refinance" framing only works as long as someone is willing to keep lending against BTC collateral that just dropped 90%.

luke_3007

I started investing in Bitcoin in August. I was relatively high at the all-time high. After the crash, I felt very insecure. I couldn't take my eyes off the chart, even though it was just standard DCA. But then I delved deeper into the subject and learned so much more about investing. I increased my savings rate and made several large individual purchases, so my average buy-in has dropped so drastically that if Bitcoin rises again, I'll already be in profit. For the last two or three months, I haven't even looked at the chart and have just let my position run, hoping that Bitcoin will drop a bit before my savings plan is executed, further improving my buy-in and allowing me to gather even more data. So, in the roughly eight months since I started investing in Bitcoin, I've learned more about investing than I did in two years as an ETF investor. ... It was truly amazing to understand how to properly read a chart like that. I also traded Bitcoin occasionally, which I wouldn't recommend to anyone. I made three good trades and then lost everything in one. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's better to buy stats instead of trying to make more money with leverage. I will certainly never sell Bitcoin!

devCheckingIn

If I could at least stake my ETH ETF and make a little pittance on that... 😩

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin experienced a massive crash, dropping nearly $15,000 in 24 hours, with theories pointing to high-leverage bets by Hong Kong hedge funds. These funds reportedly used risky strategies involving Bitcoin ETF options and the Yen carry trade, which backfired due to slumping Bitcoin prices, rising financing costs, and losses in the silver market. This led to forced liquidations and a market sell-off. While other factors like AI-related sell-offs and regulatory uncertainty may have contributed, the hedge fund theory remains the most compelling explanation. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Cryptotiptoe21

When the first gold ETF was made gold went on a 10yr bull run...