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China’s Financial Giant Files Application for Bitcoin Spot ETF in Hong Kong

r/BitcoinSee Post

If you look at it closer...the halving already started!

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ETF options?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Contributing to ETF custodial holdings

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Inverse Jim Cramer ETF Shut Down After Poor Performance Leaves Investors In The Hole

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Inverse Jim Cramer ETF Shut Down After Poor Performance Leaves Investors In The Hole

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR or miners for leveraged play? (and how is the halving supposed to be bullish for miners??)

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

BlackRock's Spot Bitcoin ETF Volume Topping GBTC Today, Signaling Market Shift

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How far would Grayscale sell off?

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

BlackRock Bitcoin ETF has surpassed holdings worth over $2 billion, equivalent to more than 52,000 BTC.

r/BitcoinSee Post

BlackRock Bitcoin ETF has surpassed holdings worth over $2 billion, equivalent to more than 52,000 BTC.

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Hong Kong SFC Welcomes First Spot Bitcoin ETF Application

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The Global Landscape of AI vs Bitcoin: Trends, Interest, and Growth Outlook

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

UK looks increasingly isolated in its anti-crypto ETF stance

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Large Chinese fund files for spot Bitcoin ETF in Hong Kong

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

How would you invest in crypto if you had a million in fiat, sterling or dollar

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Harvest Fund Applies for Spot Bitcoin ETF in Hong Kong

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Which oracle will be dominant in 2024?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Harvest Fund Applies for Spot Bitcoin ETF in Hong Kong

I am bullish on ETHEREUM ETF. Wallstreet and Institutional investors will invest in an Ethereum ETF because Ethereum is GREEN and does not pollute the environment, It is ESG compliant. Past Events that will make Ethereum ETF a success.

r/BitcoinSee Post

Where to buy the new spot bitcoin ETF?

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BTC for grandkids

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Analysts expect Charles Schwab to make a Bitcoin ETF play

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Bitcoin ETF advertisement all over Boston subways

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Big Day Tomorrow: Google Likely to Start Allowing Bitcoin Spot ETF Ads

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The last deadline for an Ethereum ETF approval for the SEC is in May 2024, expect a stronger pump than the months before the BTC ETF approval

r/BitcoinSee Post

My last post was deleted: I heard you guys loud and clear

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MSTR in a ROTH IRA for BTC exposure

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Why BTC will be sideways or downward for months..

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ETF's price drop explained, and why the growing optimism!

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BlackRock’s IBIT Hits $2B Inflows, Google Greenlights ETF Ads

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The Bitcoin ETF didn't pump my bags!

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Ripple Makes Strategic Hiring In Preparation For XRP ETF

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Question about ETF -- are BTC traded or do they tend to be held?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin: The Reason Behind the Wild Rides

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Is there a good database of publicly known wallet addresses?

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Is Bitcoin Finally Finding Firm Ground as Grayscale’s BTC ETF Outflows Calm Down?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Is Bitcoin Finally Finding Firm Ground as Grayscale’s BTC ETF Outflows Calm Down?

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WTF is a BTC Spot ETF actually???

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ETF tracker that shows holdings

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Inverse Cramer Tracker ETF Is Shutting Down with a Loss of 15%

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Is etf doing good or bad for btc

DePIN projects have highest growth potential in 2024 / 2025 and DePIN ETF is most likely to be approved in the future by the SEC.

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

DePIN projects have highest growth potential in 2024/2025 and DePIN ETF is most likely to be approved in the future by the SEC.

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Spot Ether ETF Applications Decisions Delayed by SEC

r/BitcoinSee Post

ETF misconceptions

r/BitcoinSee Post

Coinbase is the custodian of nearly ALL Bitcoin ETFs. Coinbase insurance covers a loss of $320mm, while Coinbase already holds over 2 BILLION in Bitcoin. 💣

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

SEC Delays Spot Ethereum ETF Decisions

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Here's the New SEC Deadline for BlackRock's Spot Ethereum ETF

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin ETF Data: Net withdrawals from the #BitcoinETFs are around 80 million. The bottom line drains for the fourth day in a row.

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ELI5: GBTC and dumping from FTX and other bankruptcies

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401k

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BlackRock ETF holds ~$2b in Bitcoin

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

The SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Approvals Have Forever Altered The Global Monetary System

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The SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Approvals Have Forever Altered The Global Monetary System

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The SEC Bitcoin ETF Approvals Forever Alter The Global Monetary System

Do you still believe in Buy the FUD and sell the News?

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Official on-chain addresses for ETF holdings verification

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

New SEC Deadline for BlackRock's Spot Ethereum ETF Announced - Daily Coin Post

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First over-collateralized ETF

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HSBC Canada bans all crypto related assets

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Binance Report Unveils Crypto Market Insights

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Bitwise Becomes First Spot Bitcoin ETF Provider to Provide Wallet Address

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

The SEC extends its decision on BlockRock's spot Ethereum ETF proposal to March, allowing more time for evaluation.

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

SEC Extends BlackRock’s Spot Ether ETF Decision to March

r/BitcoinSee Post

We value Bitcoin at $300K USD by 2034

r/BitcoinSee Post

More dangerous to hold Sh&t coins right now … Greyscale selling pressure might bring down BTC price due to liquidity crunch

r/BitcoinSee Post

To everyone who told me to dump all my money in and not DCA before ETF Approval!!

r/BitcoinSee Post

ARK 21shares ETF BTC address

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Bitcoin ETF in a Roth IRA?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

SEC delays BlackRock's Ethereum spot ETF to March

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Is SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Green Light a Watershed Moment for Crypto Industry?

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Is SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Green Light a Watershed Moment for Crypto Industry?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitwise Bitcoin ETF releases holdings address

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Live Look at GBTC & ETF Flows

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

$515 million came out of GBTC yesterday for a total of -$3.96 billion in outflows since converting to an ETF. Newborn 9 saw +$409 million flow in. Net outflows in total for yesterday were -$106 million. --- Bloomberg's James Seyffart. Hence, GBTC selling maybe near the end. GLTA!!!

r/BitcoinSee Post

DCA plan

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Crypto.com is now 9th largest exchange by spot volume, with more spot volume than Kraken and Kucoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

Dip is over

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin ETF derby in near real-time…Shows total btc held by each ETF, excl GBTC

r/BitcoinSee Post

DO NOT SHAKE AT THIS TIME

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

SEC Commissioner: Ethereum ETF approvals won’t be same as Bitcoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

Isn’t the amount sold by greyscale small compared to the amount they hold? Shouldn’t we expect most of the rest to be sold too?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bitwise top 10 crypto index fund

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I'd be surprised if anyone that has owned BTC since pre 2017 is suddenly concerned by recent price action.

r/BitcoinSee Post

Is the fact that there are a bitcoin ETF such a milestone?

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Bullish: Bitcoin set for supply shock as ETF buys surge and halving nears

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Lonely HODLer

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BITO

r/BitcoinSee Post

Despite Grayscale's sell-off the total amount of BTC in all ETF's are increasing

r/BitcoinSee Post

Despite Grayscale's sell-off the total amount of BTC in all ETF's are increasing each day

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Despite Grayscale's sell-off the total amount of BTC in all ETF's are increasing each day

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Can Someone Explain How Bitcoin ETFs Work?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Amount of BTC Held by Bitcoin Spot ETF Companies Has Been Revealed: Here's How Much BlackRock and Others Hold

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Bitcoin Tumbles Below $39K, Shaking Market Confidence as Grayscale ETF Shareholders Continue to Exit Positions

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Bitcoin Tumbles Below $39K, Shaking Market Confidence as Grayscale ETF Shareholders Continue to Exit Positions

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BTC Dumping

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Why isnt Bitcoin bulling with the new ETFs?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin mining stocks?

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LMAO 40k support lever held for over 6 weeks into ETF FOMO

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Coinbase is a company, it's not a word we use in general for exchange platform. Also Coinbase is not a good company (it's historically quite anti-Bitcoin). So forget Coinbase. If you are looking for a centralized exchange, choose something else, but avoid Coinbase, avoid Binance, avoid [blockchain.com](https://blockchain.com). You can purchase ETF, but it's not your Bitcoin, you are not really experiencing Bitcoin there, you are merely staying in the old fiat system, trying to make more fiat. If you want to really start the Bitcoin journey, educate yourself. Read books, find your local community, if it exists. Touch the actual Bitcoin.

Mentions:#ETF

Max out Roth IRA w ETF ever year. The rest in air-gapped cold storage.

Mentions:#ETF

The companies doing BTC ETF's refuse to show proof that they actually have enough BTC to back up the ETFs they sell! It's basically Fractional Reserve Banking! These companies DO NOT have your best interests in mind! This is not what bitcoin was designed for! When you buy an ETF you are not buying BTC! This is a fact.

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

>I know. I've asked two questions recently in the cc sub and got so many answers from people to a question I didn't even ask. Hard not to get annoyed, even though people are trying to help. You are right, is very hard not to... >where people just want to tell you that you shouldn't do the thing that you're asking about But maybe with all the replies you got confused on this one: I'm not the OP. The OP was asking about a trade that went wrong (he must be very new, cos the reason was obvious), that trade was a Spot BTC/USDT trade. As the guy that replied mentioned fees, I've asked him about the cost of doing that but on futures, if those fees were cheaper. And then that dude started talking me about ETF, which I didn't asked, then try to lecture me, which of course I didn't asked either. I politely kind of said ok, my bad. And then he derailed completely on the later massage. You know what pisses me off? People online that refer to others as if they know who they are talking about. I've been scalping stocks for over 10 years, man. ETFs? That's for people who don't have time or A) Can't handle Psycho Trading B) Risk Management or C) can't read price action. I only talk about what I know, so, as for Bitcoin, I'm new, less than 6 months, been buying , holding, doing some swing trades but I haven't gotten into futures yet, so I don't those fees, I ask. It was a simple answer, yes, no, I don't know, etc. Anyway. >Not sure who that was now I've lost track. I reply too much tbh, probably better just to let it go. You are right. If I reply It will end up with a ban or something. Thanks for your time, man.

What tax shelter do you get from an ETF?

Mentions:#ETF

Yeah sorry Sunday we are closed to sell your BTC ETF vs Flying to Dubai on Sunday to spend some BTC with my hard wallet.

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

Max your Roth IRA w ETF. Everything else goes to cold storage

Mentions:#ETF

I currently have about 70% in a hardware wallet and the rest on Coinbase. I have coinbase locked down using allow listing of my withdrawal address. Not perfect, but I feel good about this solution. I think the fact that most of the ETFs are using Coinbase for custody should speak to their security practices. If I wouldn’t have to pay taxes to move into the ETF, I’d consider putting half in there.

Mentions:#ETF

I understand English fine. The concept of splitting your stack (stack usually refers to digital assets in this sub) between a wallet and an ETF really means selling half your BTC for fiat and investing it elsewhere. Even if this other asset tracks with Bitcoin, you are losing half your BTC. What's not to understand? I know he wants to mitigate risk but enlighten me if this isn't exactly what he is proposing. What did you understand the question to be?

Mentions:#ETF#BTC

Reports are coming in that Greyscale filing for an ETF for privacy coins. Does it have anything to do with COTI L2? Prob not lol But the only thing that matters is narrative in crypto. This is its second or third pump tho. 65% for the day, 150% for the week ans like 300% for the month. They've got a goof narrative run going. The news of COTI V2, then the working example, then the Greyscale filing. Stars aligned for them. Good team tho. Did contract work for ERGO and ADA as were steady builders through the bear. Active socials and Youtube. So a solid team of builders. So rightfully deserved imo.

Mentions:#ETF#COTI#ADA

Seems like a reasonable approach. People like to pretend like a hardware wallet is a 100% safe solution. In reality there is no such thing, thus it’s reasonable to diversify where you store your holdings. You could also look into multi sig options. That said if you already own the BTC, you probably don’t want to sell and buy the ETF if you would have capital gains.

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

CKB and ROSE (I do like MINA tho) I'll give an educated response. CKB is working on a BTC L2, very promising. ROSE is privacy focused and we will see that become a big narrative. Especially since we seen a Greyscale filling for a privacy coin ETF. I do like MINA. Guy from DC Spark who just finished his game on Cardano/Arbatrum said he would love to see a MINA/ADA/ARB collab. Jasmy is a shit coin. It's big with the Facebook groups and shit coin pumpers.

Go for it, whatever lets you sleep better at night. Most of the ETF's besides Fidelity are just storing the coins on Coinbase. Imo Fidelity can most likely afford to repay a hack, Coinbase can't. SIPC insurance might also cover you in the event of a hack, but I'd rather not rely on that.

Mentions:#ETF

Then why does OP ask about splitting their attack to store half in an ETF. THIS ISN'T EVEN POSSIBLE?

Mentions:#OP#ETF

You cannot store BTC in an ETF. An ETF is a stock that tracks the value of BTC, but you don't actually own any.

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

You obviously haven't been paying attention. Bitcoin dropped almost 20% in January after the ETF launch. Then shot up around 20% in February. That is the opposite of stable.

Mentions:#ETF

I mean, I’m long ETH. I think it’s set to continue growing as proto danksharding happens and gas fees come way down. When that happens, game on. No reason not to use it. Stable network and great dev team. Also, the ETH ETF should help as well

Mentions:#ETH#ETF

I'm shocked how many people are considering ETF as an option- For my not your wallet, not your coins.

Mentions:#ETF

I'm expecting 1-2 bull weeks before 2-3 weeks of pre-halving retracement. I wouldn't be surprised if it finds liquidity around 49k before rallying on sunday night - monday morning. Couple of weeks ago we were seeing rallies on sunday night after the ETF, might have been Asia waking up and warming up the market before the start of the week. Many people on Twitter calling pennant flags and stuff, also discussing the historical data on the 60d before halving on 2016 and 2020.

Mentions:#ETF

10%? I havent seen 10%, as i say, it's hovering around 50-52k. It seems to have stabilised since the ETF introduction madness.

Mentions:#ETF

Do you think Satrix Nasdaq 100 ETF is legit to invest in on easy equities?

Mentions:#ETF

Buy a BTC ETF if you’re going to be a longer term investor. No fees

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

> the ETF's can and probably will try to control the price, make it less volatile These words? Why would they want to?

Mentions:#ETF

I know. But these institutions own a lot of bitcoin (not just in the ETF's), which is what i said in the OP. Do we kow how much is placed into ETF and what is owned by these major institutions? ​ Weve already seen GBTC 'controlling' the price of bitcoin. Imagine if they all move together on it?

Mentions:#ETF#OP

The ETFs can’t “control the price” of bitcoin. These institutions don’t decide when to buy and sell, the clients do by buying/selling the ETF.

Mentions:#ETF

Came here to say this. I love self custody, but it’s honestly a nightmare in terms of estate planning, security, and moving it around without losing it to a silly mistake. I will continue to self custody because I want that control, but everyone else I recommend the ETF.

Mentions:#ETF

When prospects or clients ask me about BTC I tell them to buy as they see fit. Intel them about the exchanges, and cold storage. Only one client buys it, and has it on cold storage.  As far as the ETF goes I tell them it’s as secure as a gold or silver etf 

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

The ETF isn't inherently tax-advantaged, but if you buy into the ETF through your 401k or IRA, then you can reap some tax benefits.

Mentions:#ETF

>is this profitable Nobody knows. Anyway, we all have been where you're, read my guide and make sure to learn along you go. Congrats on the move, it's never too late. ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick and read this short guide, please: **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first year**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Bitcoin to me, is a savings account. If I have some spare cash, I exchange it for sats. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting. Now, don't buy a fake Bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. A few good wallet choices: [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but works on mobile too. Lightning wallets to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for very small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - rapidly becoming my favourite LN wallet [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill or LN Pizza Hardware Wallets (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, less new user friendly but there are great tutorials to help with setting it up. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend as not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable or sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different than the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey.

Biggest risks to Bitcoin to me are: 1. We break it trying to make it better. 2. The government forces a censored hard fork that we choose to follow because that's where all the ETF liquidity goes. At the end of the day we have control

Mentions:#ETF

ETFs let you avoid taxes I believe. Instead of using taxes income to buy ₿, you use untaxed income to buy ETF into your retirement portfolio

Mentions:#ETF

Asked the same question and the response was, “It's basically a huge company with tons of cash, that changes the price of the ETF to follow bitcoin as much as possible if bitcoin goes up 10%, the etf goes up 10%, etc. They make their money off of the fees they charge per year, usually 1% of the money you have in the ETF.” Not sure how it will do in the future. My thought process is why not just buy bitcoin but, I’m guessing people are scared of dealing with crypto which can be scary if you’re not tech savvy.

Mentions:#ETF

>Is there a good “Idiots guide to bitcoin and crypto” out there that can easily deliver the info needed to figure out what I need to do? **Bitcoin, not crypto**. Anyway, we all have been where you're, read my guide and make sure to learn along you go. Congrats on the move, it's never too late. ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick and read this short guide, please: **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first year**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Bitcoin to me, is a savings account. If I have some spare cash, I exchange it for sats. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting. Now, don't buy a fake Bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. A few good wallet choices: [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but works on mobile too. Lightning wallets to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for very small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - rapidly becoming my favourite LN wallet [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill or LN Pizza Hardware Wallets (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, less new user friendly but there are great tutorials to help with setting it up. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend as not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable or sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different than the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey.

Uncle talked to 3. Each of them suggested the IBIT Bitcoin ETF. What does that mean?

Mentions:#IBIT#ETF

I forecast a very underwhelming halving just like the bs BTC ETF hype..........

Mentions:#BTC#ETF

Your money on a brokerage is insured. And you also don’t own the crypto by investing in an ETF.

Mentions:#ETF

Yup ETF demand & supply dwindling. GLTA!!!

Mentions:#ETF

Just buy the ETF and pay the small yearly fee.

Mentions:#ETF

An ETF of Bitcoin is just a derivative, you don't own the asset. You have to pay fees for the ETF, you don't own it, and the Government can seize it: [Executive Order 6102](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102). Buy the real deal.

Mentions:#ETF

How? Almost every bitcoin was mined before the ETF launch. Of the circulating supply, over 76% is owned by little guys like us. The ETF companies have a lot of bitcoin, but compared to the 21 million there will ever be, they got in very fucking late. If we never sell, they can never accumulate more than about 3 million coins. If the ETFs buy bitcoin, it's because people like us sold it to them.

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>Is it too late to Jump In and make a Decent return in the Long Run.? Never too late to have some.money outside of the current system. >Does anybody believe it will drop back down to 45k .? Nobody knows. >And What is the Safest/Best platform to use.? This depends on the country of your residence. Anyway, we all have been where you're, read my guide and make sure to learn along you go. Congrats on the move, it's never too late. ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick and read this short guide, please: **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first year**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Bitcoin to me, is a savings account. If I have some spare cash, I exchange it for sats. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting. Now, don't buy a fake Bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. A few good wallet choices: [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but works on mobile too. Lightning wallets to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for very small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - rapidly becoming my favourite LN wallet [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill or LN Pizza Hardware Wallets (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, less new user friendly but there are great tutorials to help with setting it up. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend as not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable or sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different than the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey.

The reason it dropped in the past was miners selling off hard to upgrade miners. Miners already have sold off hard and are still. It just got eaten up by ETF inflows. To some degree we will probably pull back at some point before halving but i wouldn’t count on a lot.

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It will probably not go below 50k again..ETF are buying like crazy,nobody is selling and halving is in 60 days

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I wouldn't put everything into ETF's using the same custodian. If coinbase blows up or just decides to sell off all its assets to the US government you could be screwed. The risk isn't necessarily with Bitcoin. As an aside, my retirement accounts lost 40% because I was in a "balanced" portfolio with stocks, metals, and bonds. Bonds and treasuries, which have been increasing in weight in my portfolio as I age, and are supposed to be the safest investments, lost 50% of their value as interest rates climb. I feel like a fool for not following my gut. I never liked bonds as an investment but was convinced I needed to be moving to more income than growth.

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ETF. It’s by far the easiest and safest.

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Okay then buy with ETF.

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ETF shares will never equal one Bitcoin.

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Wen Bennie baby ETF?

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Probably true a few years down the line, but the full extent of the ETF impact and inflows are yet to be seen

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I just realized I own like 60 different coins. Like my own shitcoin ETF 🫠

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The ETF means the returns will be smaller and at a slower pace with less volatility 

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I’m 63 and jumped into my 1st purchase of BTC the easy way through the IBIT ETF. Bought enough a month ago to equal 1 bitcoin. I like that institutions can easily buy it now.

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Unlike what some have said, if you're day trading crypto. I am a firm believer that BTC and ETF are the safest. I swing trade both of them often, pretty much the same thing but holding time is a little longer. If you're in the US and using Coinbase. Make sure you're using advanced trade. It's an option setting in your account. Otherwise the spread is going to kill you. This is very difficult to do though, unless you have a high monthly trading volume as your fees will be much lower. My typical 30 day trading volume is at minimum over $70,000 which keeps me in advanced tier 4 fees or higher if I'm over 500k. It makes a huge difference in your trading fees. Of course don't use a wallet for anything you're day trading or you will have more transaction fees as well. Do use a wallet for anything you're holding long term

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If i understand correct the recent bitcoin etf allows brokers to buy bitcoin and provide the regular ol' IOUs for normal wall street trades. If I also understand correct the broker retains ownership of said Bitcoin via regular ol' bitcoin rules if the ETF crashes and the broker goes "bankrupt". Maybe a broker buy-in using real people's money before the rug pull on the etf? 

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Bitcoin is cryptographically Stone Age technology, but it offers unique characteristics when it comes to general decentralisation. The Lightning Network is speculative and it has a lot of quirks that need to be worked out. It is not clear if the lightning network is what it promises to be. In my mind it is still the best bet we got, but like you I wouldn't allocate all of my funds to it. If we assume a median real inflation of 7-8% per year, I am fine with holding securities to match inflation and allocating BTC to eventually outperform it. For example 70% world-ETF 30%BTC. Going all in on BTC is tempting but there it is surely not risk-free.

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I would say you are perfect position to go all in on an ETF. The hit would be huge to cash it out. I actually just found an old 401K with a bunch of GBTC. I am rolling into an account I can control and will be just converting it to IBIT as soon as I can. Ended up taking a nice ride on that GBTC though.

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If you asked me last year, hardware wallet. Now, ETF. I stopped DCA'ing BTC through exchanges and started DCAing with ETFs.

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The only doubt I have about BTC is the looming potential of just how bad things COULD get in the world. If it gets bad enough, everyone will have much bigger problems than money/BTC. For the record I am hopeful, I'm also just realistic about other potential outcomes. But with regards to the ETFs and the chatter around them: You ain't seen nothing yet. The ETFs (specifically in the US) were the second to last "big step" towards mass adoption. The last big step will be a first world/superpower country declaring BTC a legal tender or using it to back their fiat. The people who complain about the ETFs, and how much these companies hold, are usually the people who have zero grasp of what "infinite divisibility" actually means with respect to money. Whether you choose to self-custody or go with an ETF, you will always be early with BTC.

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Can't tell ya Bull or Bear. All I could predict there will be at least $3 Trillion Coin Market Cap in general. Thereafter, definitely will see a minimum $5 Trillion Coin Market Cap as a whole. From there, you proportion by percentage accordingly. The BTC outcome will probably be in $65k range, then peak around $150k thereafter. Beware of ETF buying frenzy from OTC market where inventory is squeezing tight. Any slight economical tsunami will send shockwave multiplying the Coin Market Cap beyond $10 Trillions to as high as $50 Trillions especially the rich now trying to liquidate their hard assets ready to ride the recorded crypto wave.

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in a spot ETF for the convenience of estate transfer and easy tax filing if I want to trade it (made over $5k playing within resistance bands already)

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When these ETF got hack, it means Coinbase is in trouble. These ETF keeps their BTC with Coinbase.

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There are approximately 1 million bitcoin addresses that hold 1 or more BTC. So currently, 1 million whole coiners is a good max number. As BTC gets to $100k or more, it's just going to be that much harder to do. Now, can sone rich guy, who wants in, cone and buy 2,3, 10? Yes. But how many of those are there? Plus, most people who want exposure can just buy the ETF. So I think 1M is a safe max number.

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And here cucks are buying the ETF asking to be “governed harder”

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Only one coin has ETFs. I have purchased the Fidelity Bitcoin ETF. Still continue buying other coins

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Tough to say. It's one of those coins (including LINK, SOL and AVAX) that pumped the hardest during the BTC ETF rally. But it could just be because the coins that pumped the hardest during that rally were the coins that were shorted the most, which also happened to be the coins that had the most utility (apart from AVAX, which IMO sucks). I personally don't hold any RUNE at the moment (been buying and dumping for profit recently), but it's certainly one I'm open to buying again ... personally. NFA

I would rather use Coinbase. I would never buy an EFT. I don't think it matters, old people buy ETF and young people use CEX and Dex.

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Interesting fact. When the gold ETF was first approved gold went up for 8 years straight. No reason BTC could not do the same.

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I’m increasingly more skeptical we’ll ever see stuff like this. There is this narrative that 80% of BTC hasn’t moved in last two years thus none of those BTC are not really available for sale and thus we’ll see god candles when OTC desks run out and daily demand is 8-10x the issuance post halving. But I doubt all those 80% holders are all diamond hands, and also doubt all the new Spot ETF investors are allocators vs. traders. So that means we are gradual price increases post halving but don’t see all of these market participants hodling like diamond hands and forcing spot markets to go moon in search of liquidity.

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No, because ETFs are not the same as crypto, just like mutual funds are not the same as stocks. They are so "not the same" that their price doesn't have to correlate at all. A BTC on an exchange can be $50k while in the ETF it can be $100k or $25K. Coinbase will be just fine.

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Bullish. Those spot ETF approvals put more skin in the game. They can't afford to lose. Plus the halving is a math event (no FOMO). Basic laws of supply and demand are in favor of bullish. *not financial advice

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Everybody should come back to this post in a year or so when a major ETF fucks up massively and gets hacked or loses everybody’s crypto. It blows my mind how people seem to forget the importance of self custody so quickly. Major exchanges collapsing, stablecoins depegging, etc. and the customers’ assets are always the first to be frozen.

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I hear a GameCupe ETF is close to approval, as well.

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Not until you can buy the ETF with crypto. For now you can only buy with USD so you need a CEX to off-ramp

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If by “custodian” you mean they hold Bitcoin and you hold an IOU denominated in fiat then yes. Try sending that financial energy to a person on the other side of the world. What’s involved? CEX: copy paste address, click send. ETF: sell ETF shares. Wait for funds to settle. With draw to bank account. Wait for funds to settle. Wire money. Wait for recipient to receive and funds to settle.

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Not all countries have ETF

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Daytrading bitcoin is a good way to lose all your money. That being said the fees on ETFs are annual. Fidelity spot ETF is 0.2% per year. Compare that to bitcoin exchanges which are 0.2% to 1%+ PER TRADE. With the emergency of low cost spot ETFs I wouldn't buy future ETFs. They have higher fees (0.5% to 1.0%+) and other risk factors. The liquidity and volume is also collapsing in favor of spot ETFs. Still seriously don't day trade bitcoin however if you refuse to listen then the two large new spot Bitcoin ETFs (IBIT and FBTC) are going to be vastly cheaper in terms of fees paid than any Bitcoin exchange.

Since you can't withdraw your crypto from the ETF but are forced to sell for dollars, not really

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No they can’t. Only shareholders of the ETF can decide to sell.

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...I do wonder what's may happen just before US election, seems another 'event' may happen. So many elections around the world this year. Can also imagine boomers buying ETF's may dump en masse at 1x. The are used to making single digit annual gains, not selling after even a 0.5x might be possible. Plus Mr Fink has more control and may just manipulate like a kid in a candy store, is tradfi really going to give away power or is this an infiltration, positioning troops before a mass attack.

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I sold a good chunk (1/3) at 52,200 in prep for a big correction/consolidation. If I get to rebuy in with it at 46, cool. If not, my remaining 2/3 Is doing good. I did the same with my ETH. Sold at 2975, but a little less than 1/3 as the ETF hype train could explode at any time.

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You should allocate 1% in a bitcoin ETF

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This. As a traditional invester (stocks, ETF's etc.) my goal was to grow my wealth by 10% to 15% annually (not including the monthly contribution). It is bizarre to read that, also assuming that these are mostly young people, that they do not consider returns of 50% sufficient and take bizarre risks to achieve a 400% return. It fits perfectly with the 'get rich quick' Instagram generation. What will probably suffer in a small group of the rich and a large group of the poor compared to a large group of sensible and slowly building wealth.

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He asked if you could transfer to it. You can, and many people have transferred to the public address of all ETF already. Bitwise posted their address publicly and people started sending sats. OP *only* asked if OP *could* send directly to ETF wallet. OP never mentioned anything about having OP's account credited with those Sats. My reply is 100% correct.

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Truly don't believe any of the past cycle stuff is relevant - we've got a truly insane scenario here with the ETF's and ability to hold in IRA's now. Institutional money is coming in hard and once retail investors get a taste of this - they'll never relinquish. The stock market has treated retail like ass for the last 2 decades.

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It could easily fall that low. Mostly probably even 40k . Bitcoin is over bought and you can see it’s only staying around 50k because of ETF prices in flows which is a bad sign . Also it’s close to end of year business profit taking and also miners will need to sell because of the halving.

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