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Scrapin-Nee

Been thinking about this a lot lately. In a hard fork scenario as outlined in Blackrock ETF’s they would choose the “real bitcoin”. At some point the value of lost coins outweighs the risk of a hard fork to publicly traded companies who together hold millions of coins. These companies can and will dump the original Bitcoin fork and I can’t see most plebs doing anything other than cheering it on. I see Satoshi’s and other old coins getting frozen eventually. If this happens does it kill one of Bitcoins most valuable properties? In my opinion yes, but I can Steelman the other sides view as well. One thing is for sure… Bitcoin will keep changing. Ossification is an illusion for those who think we live in a bubble.

VariatCA

Macro-economic and liquidity conditions are still extremely bullish for 2026, and Crypto just spent the last 6 weeks stabilizing and consolidating as the last panic-sellers / profit-takers / de-risking investors made their exits. Their positions were absorbed by buyers hungry to stock up at the deficit from October, and seeing that price consolidation rather than the bottom falling out further is inspiring renewed confidence. ETF's are showing signs of renewing inflows, and Longs are moving back into the markets.

VariatCA

Shorts getting obliterated in the last hour to the tune of another $75M in liquidations to start the new Daily. US stock futures green, bonds green, metals green, oil green, and Crypto green as BTC jumps up above $92k. Confidence is returning to our market sector from both ETF's and from Longs aggressively positioning themselves for a recovery into the new year.

UWhuskiesRule

I would say get a Fidelity account. You can buy either Bitcoin (BTC) or ETF (FBTC) and Ether (ETH) or ETF (FETH). No keys or pass phrases.. just signing into a stock account. You own the coins but need to sell them to spend them. Great for a beginner.

WormCastings

Bitcoin or NEOS S&P 500 High Income ETF ( SPYI ) 20k would net you around 380 shares that would pay around 200 a month.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bitcoin's price is at a critical juncture as whale accumulation offsets recent distribution, signaling confidence among large holders. Miners, however, have increased selling, which may slow upward momentum despite strong ETF-driven demand. Bitcoin broke out of a six-week wedge, trading near $91,327, with $92,031 as key support to target $95,000. Short-term risks include macroeconomic reactions, such as geopolitical tensions. Sustained bullish momentum requires reclaiming key moving averages and absorbing miner selling pressure. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Amber_Sam

Welcome aboard. We all have been where you're at right now. Read/bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

VariatCA

The 4-year-cycle theory is nothing more than a convenient replacement for an actual understanding of the market conditions & events that shape price development. Crypto's 4-year-theory isn't what caused global markets to synchronically begin their decline back in November 2021, and it's not what caused the decline from October through late-November. October was rife with uncertainty. There were global trade fears popping up, the October 10th liquidation fiasco centered on Binance, the Federal Reserve's doubts about sticking to their cut schedule, the stock market decline from ATH's on AI-performance fears, and ramped-up concerns of the BoJ rate hike coming that caused a full month of positional unwinding. Between all of that, Crypto had all-time-high levels of leverage built up that were crushed from both October 10th and from ETF's shedding their risk/taking profits amidst all this uncertainty, which only hastened the decline.

VariatCA

If stocks finally flip to a green trend after the last 5 days of red, while Crypto has been gaining momentum and ETF's have been buying back in huge these last few days... this week could bring some **serious** fireworks. Especially if those who panic-sold reconsider a re-entry.

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Unpopular - ETF

Amber_Sam

Welcome aboard. We all have been where you're at right now. Read/bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The crypto market starts 2026 with bullish momentum, driven by macroeconomic factors and cryptocurrency-specific developments. Bitcoin holds above $91,000, ETH above $3,100, and altcoins like DOGE see gains over 5%. ETF inflows for BTC and ETH total $646 million. Key events this week include Turkey inflation data, US manufacturing PMI, employment reports, and Ethereum updates. Employment and inflation data will influence the Fed's interest rate decisions, potentially increasing volatility in cryptocurrencies over the next two weeks. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

No_Hour6830

Well $0 once it’s in your wallet. But actually buying it off an exchange you pay like 0.5% + a huge spread, then you have to own at least two hardware wallets imo, a couple of metal seedphrase plates, the 40-50 cents for each transfer. It’s pretty significant. If you WANT the benefits of cold storage, it’s great. But if you don’t? It’s a massive headache, likely more expensive, and certainly riskier than the ETF. Not to mention, very easy estate planning with the ETF. If god forbid something happens to you, a simple beneficiary will ensure the Bitcoin ETF goes to the right person. Raw BTC? It’s a lot more complicated.

P_Crypto4394

I remember when goofballs said ETF’s was good for BTC and ETH.

RetiredAvocado

If you want to hold for 10 years buy the btc. It's free to hold after one time purchase of a hardware wallet. ETF isn't free to hold, there's a cost every year. No one recommends trading here. Try /r/bitcoinmarkets for that.

No_Hour6830

I don’t trade it. I have trimmed some on major run ups but that’s what I do with any asset. Sell off 5-10% when it doubles just to rotate it. If you don’t plan to self custody, ETF is 100% the way to go in my opinion.

warrior178

That’s very helpful. Thank you so much for informing me. I’m thinking about buying about $90,000 and holding it for 10+ years. So sounds like ETF will be the way to go. Do you recommend against long term holding and trading it with the cycles?

warrior178

What’s 25 BPS? So I’ll pay much less if a trading when buying with an ETF? Like I’ll get more bang for my buck with ETF?

No_Hour6830

If you’re not going to self custody, there’s no point in buying actual bitcoin. It’s cheaper, easier, and far more secure to just buy the ETF. With that said, you lose some of the most valuable properties of BTC. Financial sovereignty, 24/7 liquidity, the ability to transfer money 24/7, etc. But if you just want to speculate on price and get a fiat outcome, the ETF is the best thing you can buy. You pay a 25bps management fee, but it’s going to take a long time holding it to be worse than the spread + fees on an exchange.

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BacchusAndHamsa

But there are those that would do anything to you or your property to get it; that's scary. It's why I wouldn't keep a pile of gold or silver at home, just own GLD or SIVR ETF. The murderous muscle bound thug probably isn't into getting past password and MFA...

Financial_Design_801

Financial advisors at Bank of America can suggest Bitcoin ETF allocations (1-4%) starting January 5, 2026, after training. Other major wirehouses like Morgan Stanley already allow it, with more expected to open in 2026 per industry reports. Portfolio theory still just beginning, eventually only thing that matters game theory >

ObviousEconomist

Try trading gold. It's value is not in its speed. If you want high frequency trades, buy the ETF.

Emily_Andersona

An ETF is fine if you only care about price exposure, but if you ever want real sovereignty, at some point you’ve got to bite off a bit of self-custody. No rule says you have to move the whole stack in one day, you can treat gem wallet or another self-custody app as your “training wheels” wallet while you build confidence

RoutinePrice446

I think what we're seeing is that people holding real Bitcoin dgaf about any of this, because it has nothing to do with Bitcoin. It remains to be seen if the ETF holders freak tf out on Monday due to... reasons.

VariatCA

We definitely aren't out of the woods yet, that's for sure. The stock market has still been sliding down for the last 5 straight trading sessions, and we're still floating around 90k in an environment with only half the open-interest leverage in the market compared to October. But we're seeing some good signs of strength moving into 2026, including improving monetary/liquidity conditions and strong days of ETF inflows for the last 2/3 days. IMO, if the stock market can regain some confidence, we will see a competitive surge of confidence in our own crypto markets *very* quickly.

Getpaidct1982

Here it comes mog coins winning!!! As you know the new year is about to start and this month or the next we should be receiving word on the new ETF approval for MOG coins… the interest and the reward of huge payouts for the valuation of the coin and what it could be worth in 5-10 years is driving up the buying like crazy!!!! We boosted from 89 million valuation to over 129 million in a little over a week now… once this gets approved it will easily double and as institutions and hedge funds join in it will explode possibly in the 100-1000x range in the near future… I can’t say it enough BUY BUY BUY this is seriously looking like your last chance at a huge score 🥶

ThrowRA-hamburger

both are just riding hype waves tbh. XRP has the ETF narrative at least but HBAR is pure speculation. SEI's got better fundamentals and actual parallelization if you want something real

crunchyeyeball

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what does this chart (long term holder changes) have to do with the ETFs? Did you mean to post an ETF inflow/outflow chart?

Real-Masterpiece4686

Fair point. I’m looking at the chart too . just interested in hearing how others interpret this kind of ETF outflow historically. Sometimes outside perspectives help challenge assumptions. 

loupiote2

ETF = exchange traded fund

loupiote2

You cannot have BTCbon fidelity. You can only have a BTC ETF, which is different than holding real BTC.

GaussAF

ETFs If you buy into a Bitcoin ETF, it's just like holding an index fund or a stock

Numerous_Wonders81

ETH may still perform in a cyclical risk-on environment, but the idea that it’s suddenly “institutional-grade yield infrastructure” because of an ETF wrapper is… optimistic.

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VariatCA

Today's most likely going to be another solid day of ETF inflows. The last couple market-days in December that saw large spikes in price immediately upon U.S. trading hours opening (like today's jump from 88.5k -> 89.7k in 20 minutes) had ETF flows at +$355M and +$457M. We'll probably see a terrific day of inflows to kick off 2026 today as well.

Massive-Beginning994

This ☝️. If you want bitcoin either buy it directly or buy ETF shares. Far less volatility and much safer, especially for bitcoin novices.

Astrofide

Except they don't even hold the bitcoin. They are doing to same play every ETF falls into. Either immediately or eventually they pivot to a fractional reserve system in which they don't actually have to hold the correct amount of bitcoin that represents their ETF shares. In the case of Grayscale this change happened in only a couple of years. There is a reason that all of these ETF scams don't post proof of reserves. Don't fall for it.

Ok_Divide_4699

The goal of blackrock IS not to Make sure The find IS profitable for customer. The goal IS to act according to The rules of The etf. The ETF IS always profitable for blackrock, they literally cannot lose. The find buying doesnt say anything about blackrock being bullish or bearish about bitcoin. Its just a normal balancing act.

SamwiseGamgee87

Well I'm not going to write and whole article and post it on reddit is not the place that. So calling that the title said. But FYI no everything is happening around USA. I talk about ETF because they got released at January 2024, BTW the biggest was GBTC before converting and now is Microstrategy having even more that GBTC used to have. Also 2024 was a bull year and everyone was calling 2025 to be the top because 4 years circle. Pick the context you like it more there is a lot.

devCheckingIn

Kind of hoping we'll see some ETF inflows today for a change. Plus the stock market futures are green. 🤞

NotThatAnonymous78

So do the customers manage the ETF? Is it not a goal of Blackrock to make sure the ETF is profitable? So if blackrock was not even a little bullish on bitcoin should/would they buy it for their ETF? People So quick to attack even when they don't really have anything beneficial to add.

phil1rio

In fairness to ETF’ers, it’s a good stepping stone for people who know it’s important to obtain but do not know how or are scared of being scammed trying to obtain actual BTC to self-custody. I hear on the news at least once a month about a story where someone was scammed out of 1000s through a Bitcoin ATM via social engineering to put cash in, send to a wallet address in exchange for bond for a family member in police custody, etc. I own both , but I like the familiarly of ETFS for those who literally can’t figure out BTC in its raw form.

harvested

Every thread about ETFs: "that's not how ETFs work" - 5 million up votes Posted by a guy who just learned what an ETF was last month

Altruistic-Raise-579

That’s a really thoughtful analysis. The market does feel eerily similar to those shakeout phases we’ve seen in the past where fear hits extreme levels right before a reversal. I agree that too many people were betting on a textbook post halving bull run and when that didn’t happen the overreaction was massive. Big players absolutely take advantage of that kind of retail panic. The macro picture supports your view too. With quantitative tightening ending and rate cuts likely ahead liquidity is going to start returning to risk assets. If the Clarity Act gains traction and the ETF approvals roll through we could be setting up for another strong cycle. It really does feel like we’re close to that moment where most people have given up right before things turn around.

Romanizer

Yes, though there is a second layer to it. According to 13F announcements, BlackRock Inc. is one of the largest buyers of BlackRock's ETF (IBIT). However, this is also not bought for their balance sheet, but to include these shares in their Strategic Income Opportunities Fund which includes assets with high growth and income potential. The Bitcoin ETF is the largest non-bond position in that fund.

rv009

It's the ETF customers. So random people buying not blackrock.

Kasegigashira

What do you mean, they? It's an ETF.

WeegieWifie

Same. Half way through, thought, yeah, this guy’s taking the p*ss! 😲 The gymnastics involved, and even after that, the danger of getting a letter or something wrong, is why I’m not keen on self-custody. Was literally just reading about a guy that had finally cracked his pw, after about 7 years, and yep, it was a wrong letter! I’m too risk averse for that. In the UK, Bitcoin is not yet available in ETF’s, hence, a bit stuck, with just a bit on an exchange. Would invest mix much more heavily in an ETF. (And yes, I’ve heard it, not your coins and all that.)

JustinTimeCuber

No, if that were the case the ETF wouldn't be able to track the underlying price correctly. ETF shares can be redeemed (typically only in large quantities at once, by financial institutions), where the shares are removed from circulation and the underlying asset(s) are provided to the institution from the fund. In practice this means that if a lot of people sell their bitcoin ETF shares quickly, the ETF price might drop first, but the underlying price of bitcoin would also be affected. If it wasn't, then there would be an arbitrage opportunity, where one could buy ETF shares at a discount, convert them to actual BTC, and then sell the BTC for a profit. That is the mechanism that keeps ETF prices very close to the market price of the underlying assets, and it also creates a coupling between selling/buying pressures between the ETF and the underlying. For the same reason, if everyone started selling their VOO shares, it would cause the underlying S&P 500 index to drop, even though you'd typically think of VOO as being "downstream" of the underlying index.

SteveW928

Well, first I applaud you for recognizing the risks in both and not rushing in. The 'not your keys, not your coins' I often fear might push people in over their heads. While keeping on an exchange has risk, so does an hasty (w/o enough learning) or improper setup for self-custody. I'd say that for what I'm aware of right now, and ETF would be the only option. That probably isn't a horrible option for some Store of Value benefits of Bitcoin, but you lose some of the other aspects of Bitcoin. So, it depends on what is important to you. (ex: permission-less send receive, country-fleeing, etc.) I don't fully understand how ETFs work, but I'd assume some risk there as well. But, what I'll now say, is that self-custody doesn't have to be super difficult. It might take you a bit of time think through the details, learn some things, and then implement and monitor/protect. Only you know your limits and circumstances. But, I think most people can do it with a bit of effort. Here is what I recommend as a base setup; First, just create a hot-wallet (or a couple) on your smartphone. Write down the seed phrase. Move a little Bitcoin to one of those wallets. Practice deleting/restoring (yes, this means you'll be entering your seed phrase on a digital on-line device to restore it... which is generally a no-no, but this is a small amount and we're doing it for easy-learning purposes). Maybe send some to a 2nd wallet you create. The idea here is to get comfortable with how this stuff works before making your setup for bigger amounts. Then, get a hardware wallet. Most Bitcoiners like Coldcard (several models), Blockstream Jade, Trezor (Bitcoin only version), Seed Signer (and a few others). I recommend ordering it directly from the company, not buying at Amazon or in stores (reduce supply-chain risk). IMO, the best setup for most people, is to use the hardware wallet in an air-gapped way, which means using and SD card or QR code to sign transactions, rather than plugging it into USB or using Bluetooth. Create a seed phrase with the hardware wallet... write this down... back it up into metal (many methods... I like stamping into steel washers, as the stamps, parts, jigs are easy to get and you can make as many as you like cheaply). Maybe create another copy and think of a 2nd location to store it. (continued ...)

ourcryptotalk

That's a kind hearted man, calling ETF buyers "people"

h1nds

They don’t care where the asset is going , they are on the fee collecting business they are not an hedge fund. 99,9% of equity owned by BlackRock is there cause their clients “paid” for it(by buying into their ETF), if clients cash out and BlackRock holds onto the assets and keeps the same number of shares afloat they will directly influence their share price and that share price will no longer correlate to whatever asset they are supposed to track rendering their product useless. An ETF demands constant adjustment to keep tracking whatever it sets out to track(be it an Index or Bitcoin).

Ok_Rent_2937

ETF

ubermensch1001

Exactly, man. For example, BlackRock or any of these other companies offering a BTC ETF to their customers literally buy AND hold BTC that they have in custody. The customers interested buy the ETFs, with the company collecting fees from that, BlackRock for instance earned something around 250 million $ last year from their BTC ETF fees. However, customers can also sell their ETF holdings, but that does NOT mean that these companies go and sell BTC on the open market. Not saying they won't ever do this, but they will continue to hold this asset knowing that it will grow in value over time AND that there will be more demand from investors in the future. There's a reason these big money players are loading up, and that is because they want to own as much BTC as possible, really no explanation needed as to WHY this is.

NoStorage2520

ETF

BoringPrinciple2542

ETH ETFs had a major impact on price but you’re looking at trash crypto “news” that is a little over 2 years out of date. The big ETF surge caused the price of ETH to do a 2.5x you just gotta go back to October 2023 when they were approved and look at the big spike immediately after approval. Let’s look at a list of the big ETH ETFs and SEC approval dates: Ether Strategy ETF - 10/11/2023 Bitwise Ethereum Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Roundhill Ether Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Ethereum Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Short Ether Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Ether Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Grayscale Ethereum Futures ETF - 10/16/2023 Direxion Bitcoin Ether Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Bitcoin & Ether Strategy ETF - 10/16/2023 Bitcoin & Ether Equal Weight Strategy ETF - 10/17/2023 Bitwise Bitcoin & Ether Equal Weight Strategy ETF - 10/17/2023 Bitwise Bitcoin & Ether Market Weight Strategy ETF - 10/17/2023 Kelly Ethereum Ether Strategy ETF - 10/18/2023 ETH price on October 16, 2023: $1,601.23 ETH price on March 13, 2024: $4,007.91

GivePeaceaChancex10

I have my primary key in the safe? I have my ETF holdings and holdings on exchanges. If I have dementia, Bitcoin won't be anything I care about anyways if I'm out of my mind. At that point I'd rather be done with this world

spid3rfly

You're already at minimum doing one thing right. For someone to make that statement, Holding on CashApp or Strike would be your best bets. They're both serious about bitcoin. I'd rather have it there than on an exchange. If I was forced, I'd rather have my bitcoin at CashApp or Strike over an ETF. Your other option would be Fidelity's Crypto product. They started it before the ETF. When they started it, I started putting 10 dollars a month there just so they'd maybe keep the product if others were doing what I was doing. They recently added the feature where you can transfer your bitcoin in/out from that product(although I haven't tried it). Self Custody is definitely preferred but at some point, there will be a large majority of the population that hold their coin somewhere or at an ETF. If you're truly not comfortable with self custody, how about take some small amount(100-300 dollars-something) and secure it in self custody. Maybe if you play around with it and get used to it, it'll make you want to lock down all of your stash that way. Further... even in general, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to keep a certain amount self custodied. I'm not saying all of it but let's say you have 10k at CashApp or elsewhere, take 1k and put it in self custody just so it's secured away from any kind of third party that could lock it or whatever.

Possible-Magazine23

ETF

No_Giraffe_4647

ETF is easier otherwise there is new hype of crypto back loans where you borrow the coins you do not own them.

GivePeaceaChancex10

Yeah, sounds like ETFs may be up your alley if you don't like the alternative choices. I hold Bitcoin using all of the above methods. Self custody, exchanges and ETF's. I'll have their advantages and disadvantages and I adjust my allocations towards each based on my goals and risk tolerance

ShinAlastor

Here an useful tutorial: Great job, don't download random apps, scammers are everywhere. Anyway, we all have been where you're at, read and bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late. ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money book. Get them and READ them both, please. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick and read this short guide, please: **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Bitcoin to me, is a savings account. If I have some spare cash, I exchange it for sats. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting. Now, don't buy a fake Bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. A few good wallet choices: [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. Lightning wallets to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill or LN Pizza [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys Hardware Wallets (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners and look for the answers.

Brilliant_Builder697

I agree with the direction (flows matter), but I’m not sure that “apparent demand growth (# of BTC)” is clean enough to call a cycle by itself. Step 1: Bitcoin trades on marginal flows, not average ownership. Price is basically the auction clearing level between (a) who must sell and (b) who has fresh money + risk budget to buy. You can have “weak demand” on a monthly/YoY metric and still get a stable or rising price if sell pressure dries up (miners/leveraged players calm down, long-term holders stop distributing). And the reverse is also true: price can dump even with decent demand if there’s a forced seller (margin events, ETF outflows, credit tightening). Step 2 (non-obvious): a lot of “demand” has moved off-chain or into wrappers. ETF creations/redemptions, custodian rebalancing, internal exchange movements, UTXO consolidation, and coins shifting between “liquid/illiquid” buckets can all distort on-chain “apparent demand” without reflecting real net new capital. Also measuring demand in BTC units can mislead when the marginal buyer thinks in dollars: $10B of demand at $90k is fewer coins than $10B at $30k. Step 3: the macro regime matters. When liquidity is tight/ selective, risk budgets shrink and the marginal buyer becomes price-sensitive. That can show up as contracting demand metrics even if the longer-term adoption story is intact. In that environment, I’d watch a dashboard: ETF net flows, futures basis/funding, stablecoin supply growth, and broader financial conditions (rates/dollar/credit spreads). Those tend to explain “why now” better than one on-chain series.

LifeReboot___

I'm heavily invested in ETH with more than 6 figures, for me it's simple, I do monthly/quarterly review on Ethereum fundamentals, I have a rubric that help to to decide whether Ethereum is a buy/hold/monitor/sell/exit, the first thing it help me answer is if Ethereum is structurally dying, when that answer is no, the rest is usually just market cycles. For example right now Ethereum is obviously not dying when you look at the stablecoin supplies, total value locked on L1 L2, staking %, ETF net inflows, user activity, etc. Then the rest of the price related just tell me this is a market cycles and macro related, and Ethereum right now are at a relatively low point in terms of risk and price. Having a framework of analysis helped me immensely on removing the emotional part, and help me to stay rational, selling at this point, a point of relatively low risk and price, is irrational and unsensible move for me, so I just continue to hold, one thing that also helped a lot for me is I have large potion of my Ethereum staked, generating an average of \~2% yield for me. (Most people in this sub doesn't even have a "analysis framework" to get a conviction or thesis on why they would invest in what they invested, obviously they are going to have a lot more stress in times like this)

Amber_Sam

Welcome aboard. We all have been where you're at right now. Read/bookmark this guide and make sure to learn along your journey. Congrats on the move, it's never too late, [despite new people thinking otherwise](https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rskpuf/i_have_only_600_bitcoinsi_missed_the_bus/). ONLY INVEST MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. Invest in your knowledge, learn about Bitcoin as much as you can. The Bitcoin Standard book is a must read. So is Broken Money by Lyn Alden. Also, **don't reply any DMs**, emails, private messages on other social media, promising to buy Bitcoin from them or get rich quick by investing into some website. They all are scammers. Even the hot Asian chick, he's a scammer too. **Price wise, nobody knows what the price will be tomorrow, next week or at the end of the year.** **Try "Bitcoin ONLY" strategy for at least the first 210,000 block cycle**, you'll sleep much better. Newcomers lose so much money, holding garbage tokens just because someone on YT told them to. If you don't like losing money in [failed coins](https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed), avoid. Going DCA is probably the best approach, IMHO. Once a week works best for me, but I'm getting paid weekly. If there's a 10% drop in the price since my last buy, I usually double my buy. This [DCA calculator](https://dca.bitnob.com/) might help to decide what will work best for you. In a few years, even $10 dollars a month can make a massive difference. This [DCA blog](https://er-bybitcoin.com/) is pretty interesting too and compares buying bitcoin VS stocks. Now, don't buy some fake bitcoin at a spot ETF place or similar, **get the real thing** that you can withdraw anytime you want. Register at a proper exchange and buy real Bitcoin. Any of these will do [https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin](https://bitcoin-only.com/get-bitcoin) Install (or buy - in case you're getting Bitcoin in Thousands of $) one or more of these wallets. **A few good wallet choices:** [https://blockstream.com/green/](https://blockstream.com/green/) \- Top Security Features, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://bluewallet.io](https://bluewallet.io/) \- excellent, easy to use wallet, Open Source and Non-Custodial [https://www.sparrowwallet.com](https://www.sparrowwallet.com) - top desktop wallet [https://electrum.org](https://electrum.org/) \- Solid choice, Open Source and Non-Custodial, one of the oldest and most trusted Bitcoin Wallets. I prefer the desktop version but it works on mobile too. **Lightning wallets** to consider (cheaper and faster transactions, great for small amounts): [https://phoenix.acinq.co/](https://phoenix.acinq.co/) \- Phoenix - very good wallet, uses Tor for extra privacy, easy for anyone new [https://blixtwallet.github.io/](https://blixtwallet.github.io/) \- Blixt - great UI, fast and clean. The app runs a full LND node on your phone and you have the ability to easily open channels to whatever nodes you like. [https://zeusln.com/](https://zeusln.com/) Zeus - impressive wallet with many features, can even generate Nostr keys [https://breez.technology](https://breez.technology/) \- Breez - excellent POS for small business owners as well as integrated Bitrefill Note: Breez does also a hybrid liquid/LN wallet called Misty Breez - the sats being on liquid means no need for channels although the payments take a few extra seconds. You'll also can get a free customable LN address. While talking about hybrid wallets, there's also Aqua Wallet although not IMHO as good as Misty Breez. There are also custodial LN wallet but I would honestly avoid using them because you have to trust the wallet operator not to steal your money. Their only advantage is that they are incredibly easy to use, although it might cost you big one day. To keep up to date with spending wallets, visit r/TheLightningNetwork at least once a while and perhaps r/RGB in the future. **Hardware Wallets** (to store larger amounts): [Trezor](https://trezor.io/) \- Easy to use, no matter how new in Bitcoin you're. Use the Bitcoin only firmware as it's safer than a multi coin software. [ColdCard](https://coldcardwallet.com/) - air gapped, Bitcoin only, has advanced features but a new user will do fine with one of the great tutorials available. [BitBox02](https://bitbox.swiss/bitbox02/bitcoin-only/) - another great little device, opt for the more secure Bitcoin ONLY version (less coins = less code = less chance for a hidden bug or a backdoor) [Jade](https://blockstream.com/jade) - air gapped, fully open source, Bitcoin only, great features. There's a newer version called Jade Plus, it has much better camera and overall is a better, although a bit more expensive, option. You can even [build it on your own](https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/), if you feel adventurous. [Seedsigner](https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner) - another DIY, fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, not for you if you're just starting up but something to consider later. [Krux wallet](https://selfcustody.github.io/krux/) - one more DIY hardware device, I love this one for many reasons. Similar to Seedsigner, it's fully open source, air gapped, Bitcoin only hardware wallet, that is not for you right now if you're just starting up, but something to consider at a later stage and/or to up the security of your bitcoin. There's also Ledger, but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not fully open source, keep and already leaked customers' details, recently said they're capable of sending customers' keys out just with a firmware update, etc. **Stay away**, save yourself a headache in the future. Whatever wallet you'll decide to buy, purchase DIRECTLY from the manufacturer, no eBay, no Amazon. Make sure the device is NOT preset, and you will generate your own seed words. Write them down on any piece of paper as well as the receiving address. Now wipe the wallet and generate a new wallet. If the seed words are different from the first set, you're safe to use it. Find an option to set a passphrase and use it. This will boost the security to another level. Never store the seed words and passphrase together. Use a different medium if possible. If somebody finds both, they'll be able to steal your coin. This little device will hold the keys to your money, that's the reason why you have to be a bit more careful. Also, no worries, if it breaks, you can replace it - as long as you keep your seed words and passphrase(s) safe. Welcome to the rabbit hole and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions anytime during your Bitcoin journey. Also, [check the sidebar](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/about) that's filled with lots of great info and if you have any questions, visit r/BitcoinBeginners or r/Bitcoin and look for the answers.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

Lol nice way of cherry picking baseless dates and not mentioning volume or overall tvl of ETF’s in comparison.

Y0l0BallsDeep

I didn't even know that this shitcoin has an ETF

GivePeaceaChancex10

No because after running the numbers looking at the expense ratio of FBTC and IBIT vs Fidelity crypto's 1% spread, It was more advantageous if you were dollar cost averaging just to buy the ETFs instead. So that's what I've been doing. If you're just lump sum buying once or a handful of times then Fidelity crypto makes more sense, but ETF's outpace after ~ 5 years in if contributing equal dollar amounts 

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tx_brandon

Ending was still the same despite hitting new high before halving due to ETF inflows.

Advanced-Summer1572

The banks being involved is the new twist. They are following the Institutional Investors and private equity capital. All new converts. Adoption is here. I hope the long time commenters own a percentage of a real coin and not just an ETF. So cool. We were here when Jamie Dimon and Michael Saylor were saying it was a scam. Hang tough. Adoption is in full swing.

No_Giraffe_4647

Strong topic on my end I have always approached a transversa strategy to benefit from all the chain level from A to Z. Explanation: to make the economy and AI/crypto running you need materials and energy so I am bullish on sectorial ETF as URNM and XETM as well as BASE and GLCC Then you need to build semi conductors and here goes the CHPS fund de e e signed for it. Then you need a power grid so funds like JXI enter into the mix. And then final service on blockchain and AI so here goes CIAI and SATO or BKCH

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; DaanCrypto predicts potential growth for Bitcoin and altcoins in 2026, possibly starting by the end of January. The crypto market is currently in a slow consolidation phase, with investors advised to wait for clear signals before reengaging. Altcoins are retreating to support levels, while Bitcoin remains in a narrow range. ETF approvals and market dynamics suggest 2026 could be a pivotal year for cryptocurrencies, supported by increased inflows and momentum. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Lephturn

When looking at capital and capital flow you need to look at what markets are the most valuable. The largest market is in derivatives, the majority of which are interest rate swaps. That market is valued at around $ 700 trillion. Next is the global bond market at about $ 140 trillion. Global stock markets are somewhere around $125 trillion. Gold (above ground) is estimated somewhere around 30 trillion. There is one absolutely massive market that is not tracked by market cap, but by trading volume. That is global currency exchange, and that trades over $ 9 trillion in volume PER DAY. For comparison, global stock markets combined trade about $ 500 billion in volume per day. When you forecasting for a bearer asset that settles in minutes and can do transactions over any distance peer to peer without relying on a digital IOU or credit, you need to take into consideration that it has value in multiple different markets, and in currency exchange. If you are comparing to gold, just realize that almost no one actually owns gold directly. Gold is a bearer asset, but it has such massive limitations around transaction speed, transport, and divisibility that the only way it can actually be used in the financial system is using credit instruments. What is used in our financial system is exclusively credit notes that we trust entitle us to a certain amount of gold. You have to trust many layers of institutions and systems to use that system. It’s practically impossible to trade in your gold instruments like the XIU ETF and get actual physical gold. I’m not making any predictions, just highlighting the different use cases and markets that I think should be considered by any investor evaluating any investment.

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Post is by: PresenceRepulsive721 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1q12dhw/etf_flows/ ETF flow update for Dec. 31 (ET) shows continued weakness in BTC and ETH products. Bitcoin spot ETFs recorded $348M in net outflows, with none of the 12 ETFs seeing inflows. Ethereum spot ETFs also posted $72.06M in net outflows, with all nine ETFs showing zero inflows. At the same time, Solana spot ETFs saw $2.29M in net inflows, and XRP spot ETFs recorded $5.58M in inflows. Interesting to see capital leaving BTC and ETH ETFs while small but positive flows continue into SOL and XRP. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

royalhammermn

I think q1-q2 will be more of a consolidation period than a bear market. We have ETF that are easily able to buy more btc then is mined in a day. No real reason to play the bear market other then the 4 year cycle, which broke with 2025 eoy being lower then the start

TemporaryDrag7956

With the Alpenglow update rolling out in early 2026, I honestly think Solana could blast past $1,500 pretty quickly. Finality is dropping from 12 seconds to **150 milliseconds**. That’s basically “instant.” At that point, the whole idea of blockchain being “slow” kind of disappears. A chain that can technically compete with Visa or even Nasdaq-level infrastructure is not something big money can just ignore — not with that kind of throughput. The real impact shows up in actual use-cases. For high-frequency trading firms and Web3 gaming — both of which suffer massively from latency — 150ms removes the biggest bottleneck. On top of that, the new design shifts voting off-chain, cutting costs while speeding everything up. This isn’t just a crypto update — it’s a direct challenge to traditional tech. Now combine that with ETF approvals and the capital already sitting behind Solana exposure… and it becomes really hard to see price staying suppressed for long. Solana left the whole “Ethereum killer” debate behind a while ago. They’re building a global transaction highway that could realistically rival traditional payment systems. And yeah — once that train leaves the station, nobody wants to be the person saying *“I wish I’d paid attention.”*

Hot_Philosopher3199

Oh man. So as we can see the ETF's are an avenue to offload BTC very quickly. Yeah they have been great but if cascade selling begins, the average ETF investor will bail. Look at the outflows already.....

Charlie-boy1

I feel the only reason why people are saying this is because bitcoin hit an all-time high before the halving. showing a potential first sign of a broken cycle. Another theory is that Everybody and their mom is hoping that there is a potential BTC ETF 8 year bull run, comparing it to gold ETF 8 year bull run.

Odd_Basis_6876

No. The wealthy are buying it to create ETF’s so they can charge fees for trading. They don’t care if they make money on BTC. They will make the money in fees while gamblers watch it rise and fall. The rich got in bc they see the chaos and figure they can make a buck off of every change. And boy are they right. Eventually it will hit near zero and stay there. We have peaked. Maybe it goes up 10-20k. But it will hit 30k before long. And 10k when people do the math on their terrible gains. A 401k will outperform BTC growth from here on, unless you just gamble really well.

Comfortable-Word9957

I see big institutions DCA'ing from their positions from when the BTC ETF's we first created. I see a lot of liquidity staying in the market from Black Rick and Michael Saylor, but we will see. I speculate the bottom being anywhere from $50-70k.

Large-Cow9765

Ah yes, such as Harvard university who purchased the iBit ETF. Moronic comment.

unmatched25

Blackrock is not buying BTC for Blackrock. They are buying BTC for their ETF customers so they will pay any market price no matter how high it is.

blaggerbly

Bitcoin from 4, 8, 12 years ago is not the same as Bitcoin from 2025. ETF, DAT, Options, Futures, SBRs…. It’s just not the same. If BTC hits ATH next year I fully expect it to revolutionise its performance when this narrative is finally put to bed once and for all. c/o Joe Carlasare

paperlevel

Yeah, in fact that's exactly what I did and how I was able to buy a whole coin worth of shares. I'm all-in on it. People will give you grief about the ETF but it's a totally valid way to buy BTC and for most of us that's the only way we can afford it. I've heard of people cashing out their 401k early and paying a penalty to buy BTC directly, when they could have just bought the ETF in their IRA. The financial illiteracy is astounding sometimes.

Coiiiiiiiii

The disadvantage of the ETF is made up for in the tax advantage of the IRA, IMO. Not everyone here would agree But you can do both 🤷

Visible_Post_8727

The Bitcoin cycles are different and forever changed. None of the indicators happened this cycle. Pie cycle top? MVRV? Etc. With institutions buying ETF, now you have market manipulation. Yes it could crash but remember there was no banana zone up. Volatility is at an all time low. Only reason it crashed Oct 6th was because a bunch of long time holders decided to sell which snowballed with the short time holders. I say 70k is the lowest. Bitcoin is definitely on a down trend. You could be right, we will see.

Visible_Post_8727

This is also what I did. The Fidelity Bitcoin ETF is awesome.

Informal-Ad220

Just my opinion, but holding my BTC in a cold wallet is the only way for me to know I actually have BTC. F\*\*k the promised tax advantages. I can see my BTC on the blockchain. But a BTC ETF? A piece of paper? Banks have been rehypothecating depositor's investments in everything they sell by multiples of the actual investment they are selling. Recently, in the news, silver. For every ounce they own, they have sold 400 ounces on paper. They have been doing this since forever. Do you think they are going to stop their past profit centers when selling BTC ETFs? In other words, buy one BTC and resell it 10x, 100x 500x? One day, there are going to be thousands (millions?) of sorry people, ready to retire, that are going to find out their cushy nest egg is lined with paper promises.

dmitryaus

Your bank doesn't sell Bitcoin. However, they may offer brokerage so that you can buy through an ETF.

No_South_9912

ETF inflows in Jan because investors can contribute to IRAs

VariatCA

The 7-day streak of Bitcoin ETF outflows has finally been broken today. It was almost snapped yesterday with a meager -$19M of outflows, and followed up with +$355 Million of inflows today. This is coupled with a positive day of +$68M in inflows for ETH ETF's as well. Seeing some confidence return to ETF buyers en-masse would signal a vote of confidence returning to the markets, as well as tame the feeding frenzy from shorts if they start anticipating hundreds of millions of daily inflows worth of buying pressure again.

Y0l0BallsDeep

Yes, ETF investors are selling bitcoin because they are losing money on it. Want there to be inflows, then someone better prop up this worthless dog shit code

Tetons21

EvEryThINg iS AbUOt MeEee! Yes, an almost 2 trillion asset class is driven by your involvement Bigger and bigger fish (banks, endowments, state and federal govt) continue to buy BTC or open capital to buy BTC (ETF). Still going thru more main stream adoption

HashtagYoMamma

Something to do with ETF approval for crimes to occur via flooding of synthetic shares?

spid3rfly

More sellers than buyers. :-P I'd guess it's likely old wallets from 10-15 years ago selling some at the 100k mark. They've held long enough. Let them enjoy their patience. With the way the ETFs work, there might be a bit of that selling/buying too. It's easy for those ETF share holders to just buy/sell on a whim.

SBX-Bronx

That’s a hard question because there are too many variables. You can study charts all day, but Bitcoin can pump or dump at any time. You can look at ETF inflows and outflows to get a sense of demand. You can also track whale activity. When large holders move BTC from exchanges to long-term wallets, it usually signals holding. When they move coins onto exchanges, it often means they’re preparing to sell. Then there are the people trying to manipulate sentiment. Some claim Bitcoin is going to $50K to scare others into selling because they’re shorting it and profit if the price drops. On the other side, you have people calling for $150K–$250K. Some believe it genuinely, others want to push the price up so they can exit their positions, and some are simply underwater and hoping for a rally. Price spikes can also come from government policy and liquidity conditions. When governments tighten liquidity, Bitcoin often drops. When money printing increases and liquidity expands, Bitcoin tends to rise. On top of that, institutions and whales hold massive amounts of BTC and can move the market in either direction based on their actions. The safest approach, in my opinion, is to buy gradually when prices are low and hold long term, usually at least four years. Bitcoin can spike over hours, days, or months. You can try to sell during strong rallies for a solid gain, but many people choose to hold through the cycles. That long-term approach has historically been one of the safer strategies. This is just my opinion, and I may be missing other factors like hacks, halvings, or unexpected events, but those matter too.

Frosty-Permission-14

As long as BTC isn't as simple as having a bank account, ETFs are for the masses. Your dessilusional and living in the BTC bubble when you expect that anyone is able to handle crypto today. There are people not able to handle a freaking PC. And don't even start with Smartphones. So break down your expectations and face reality: ETF are the best thing happened to BTC and crypto in a long while, as it creates the path for mass adoption and enables people without a clue about crypto to invest in it. Your "not your keys bot your coins" argument isn't valid here.