SWIFT

JustStopppingBye

Wow you’re actually delusional lol LINEA IS AN PERMISSIONLESS L2 NETWORK. SWIFT BUILT THEIR OWN L1 PERMISSIONED NETWORK. Since we do we trust “cointelegraph” lmao https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/swifts-blockchain-based-shared-ledger-progresses-mvp-implementation \>Swift will operate the ledger, providing orchestration of transaction workflows, validation of funding commitments and coordination of interbank processes. How can Swift operate an L2 network controlled by linea? The CIO also said it doesn’t use a token so how can it be linea? “Time will tell” this statement worked last year but now we know it’s not an L2 network. Seek help

supercashme

I actually think that's the goal. Most people don't know or care whether a payment goes through ACH, Visa, or SWIFT they just care that it works. If stablecoins become truly mainstream, they'll probably fade into the background the same way. People won't say, "I'm paying with USDC." They'll just scan a QR code or tap a button and expect the transaction to be instant and inexpensive. The technology succeeds when users don't have to think about the technology.

magic-karma

Shares is typically used to indicate equity or ownership. XRP is token. It’s more like a license than equity. Shares would be in Ripple, the issuer of XRP who run the XRPL (ledger). Ripple mints an outstanding amount of token every month. It is not a decentralized platform design. It was hyped to be a replacement for SWIFT. SWIFT has recently announced their own blockchain (it is not using XRP) and the banks signed on to use SWIFTs blockchain are much more impressive than what Ripple has put together. Use your impressions over my own.

Cheap_Consequence_26

**SWIFT** (the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) is not owned by a single person, company, or government. Instead, it is a global, member-owned cooperative. 1. Ownership: A Banking Cooperative SWIFT is legally registered as a cooperative society under Belgian law, headquartered in La Hulpe, Belgium. The Shareholders: It is owned and controlled by the more than 11,500 banks, security houses, fintechs, and corporate businesses across over 200 countries that use its network. Voting Power: Shareholder stakes and voting rights are reallocated every three years based on the volume of financial messages each institution sends over the network. The most active users get the largest say, though rules are in place to ensure geographic diversity. Operation and Governance While it serves the global financial industry, it operates strictly as a neutral messaging utility (it transmits financial instructions but does not actually hold, manage, or clear funds). The Board of Directors: SWIFT is governed by a 25-member Board of Director. These directors are senior executives from major international commercial banks (such as JPMorgan Chase, Citi, HSBC, and BNP Paribas) who are elected by the shareholders to set strategy and oversee management. Executive Management: Day-to-day operations are handled by a full-time executive committee led by a Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Oversight: The Central Banks Because SWIFT is critical to the stability of the global financial system, it operates under intense regulatory scrutiny rather than absolute independence. Lead Overseer: The National Bank of Belgium acts as the primary overseer because SWIFT is physically headquartered there. The G-10 Framework: It is jointly monitored by the central banks of the Group of Ten (G-10) nations—including the US Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the European Central Bank, and the Bank of Japan. Global Forum: Major developing economies (like the central banks of Australia, China, and India) also participate in information sharing through the Swift Oversight Forum to ensure the network remains secure and resilient.

GabeDef

This is bearish for the entire crypto space. No reason for anything if SWIFT has its own chain. 

Vancecookcobain

Yea nobody controls it. Did that ruffle some feathers? Please point out a centralized entity that controls Bitcoin? 😂 If you shut down the internet the SWIFT payment system is cooked 😂 You can copy the source code of Bitcoin but nobody is using your stupid ass block chain. They are using the Bitcoin block chain 😂 If you have Bitcoin in your wallet nobody can take it from you. 😂 Controlling 51% of the network in 2026 requires nearly a trillion dollar budget and the man power to set it up....that's an expensive way to break Bitcoin 😂 Holding it in cold storage is a bit different than holding say money in your wallet...do you know why???? You can make multiple copies so you have redundancies in case one does go bad....can't do that with cash or even a debit card....they only let you have one at a time or whatever cash you have 😂 The top 100 richest Americans own around the same level of Americas wealth and the dollar is totally centralized....you are also obfuscating WEALTH CONCENTRATION WITH DISTRIBUTED DECENTRALIZED NETWORKS 😂 Every argument you presented had the dollar in a worse scenario and made Bitcoin a more attractive store of wealth. If that was the most indepth critical analysis you have of Bitcoin vs the dollar you are probably too dumb to even understand how bad your arguments are.... Try not to be so arrogantly ignorant 😂

8enWade

Appears to be a brand new chain that is EVM compaitible, not a Layer 2. [SWIFT Blockchain Announcement](https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/swifts-blockchain-based-shared-ledger-progresses-mvp-implementation)

Upset-Bluebird-8411

SWIFT doing a POC with chainlink too not just ripple, people always forget that part. xrp army gonna be mad but the whole thing is just banks testing waters, not some final decision

wgcole01

SWIFT news: RIP XRP or XRP POC?

Doug_the_Hutt

**SWIFT using blockchain doesn’t fix the real problem: blockchains can only tell you what the network** ***agreed*** **happened — not what actually happened.** **Consensus = agreement, not truth.** **If the system can’t prove an asset is real, unique, and not duplicated, you still need reconciliation, settlement, audits, and fraud checks.** **We’ve been patching the same flaws in money for thousands of years — blockchain is just the newest patch, not a fix.** **It makes the same old problems more expensive.**

Agreeable-Weight-425

What's the actual plan here? Cut up your bank card? Stop using SWIFT? Banks are just a tool. So is crypto. Using both for what they're actually good at seems more productive than declaring war on one of them.

Eazy_Fort

Look up SWIFT and DTCC exprimentation for collateral/tokenization. Its already happening.

AdVisible298

Most of the world uses SWIFT. And outside the US are a lot of countries where the argument for BTC is even stronger.

anon-187101

Bitcoin is akin to SWIFT, *not* Visa. That's what the Lightning Network is for. I guarantee I know far more than you about all of this.

JeremyLinForever

SWIFT banking system says hi!

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Post is by: AIautoagent1 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1ugcog4/are_accelerating_cbdc_pilots_changing_how_we/ The part that should have every crypto holder paying attention right now isn’t price action — it’s how quickly CBDC pilots are moving from “theoretical” to “live infrastructure” in the world’s biggest economies. If you look at the Atlantic Council CBDC tracker and recent central bank comms, we’re past the experimentation phase. China’s e-CNY is already in large-scale pilot with cross-border tests, the ECB is in the “preparation phase” for a digital euro, India is expanding both wholesale and retail pilots, and over 20 G20 members are in advanced stages. The BIS has multiple cross-border CBDC projects (mBridge, Dunbar, Icebreaker) explicitly aimed at reducing frictions in dollar-based settlement. The Fed is lagging on a retail CBDC but is clearly building rails (FedNow) and running ongoing research; meanwhile, Congress is debating the policy issues, not the existence of a digital dollar per se. This isn’t conspiracy — it’s public policy architecture for the next monetary regime. Macro-wise, this intersects directly with de-dollarization chatter and institutional Bitcoin adoption. A small group of countries are openly exploring CBDCs as a way to reduce dependence on the US-centric system and SWIFT, while the US leans on sanctions more aggressively. At the same time, US institutions are normalizing BTC exposure via ETFs and regulated custodians. My read: CBDCs centralize control over payment rails and data, while BTC/crypto become the parallel, non-sovereign collateral layer. CBDCs can absolutely crowd out weaker private stablecoins, but they also legitimize “digital bearer assets” as a category. In a world of programmable, surveilled fiat, the argument for a censorship-resistant, supply-capped asset like BTC only gets stronger, especially if fiscal dominance keeps pushing real yields negative over the long term. Positioning-wise, I assume CBDCs are coming in some form. That makes self-custody non-negotiable for me: with CBDCs accelerating, I keep everything off exchanges in self-custody on a Ledger — the whole point of crypto is the exit: https://shop.ledger.com/?r=earning-hq&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cbdc&utm_content=ledger. For regulated on-ramps and ETF exposure, I still think Coinbase is the most compliant US ramp: https://coinbase.com/join/earning-hq?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cbdc&utm_content=coinbase. I treat CBDC risk like a slow-moving regulatory and technological regime shift, not an overnight ban — so I’m overweight BTC, careful with KYC trails, and I assume capital controls can tighten in the next crisis. Curious how everyone else here is modeling CBDCs in their portfolio construction. Are you adjusting your mix between BTC, stables, and alts, or treating this as noise until we see real retail rollout in the US/EU? Ledger and Coinbase links are affiliate links. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

quantum_simpleton

EFT / SWIFT, and other softwares exist which are exponentially more efficient than bitcoin could ever be due to scaling limitations. You fail to understand basic finance. You could even go as far as to use some crap "USD Stable coin" to do exactly what bitcoin does without any of the risk. Bitcoin is not and will never be a currency.

givenofaux

Bitcoin and litecoin both don’t do anything aside for operate a peer to peer payment networks. Their utility is the same as SWIFT. They move money around. We got ordinals with Bitcoin and it has the potential to be more of a platform. Bitcoin and litecoin share a code base. Litecoin has often been used as testnet for Bitcoin Ethereum and others like it are proper platforms for building on. They are really exciting tbh. Web3 is here

Real-Technician831

Is US SWIFT that ancient? Seriously? In Europe transfers between normal peoples accounts are pretty much instant, as in you have to wait at most couple minutes for amounts to show. Banks moved to this system some years ago to fight against Paypal and European alternatives such as Mobilepay.

proxyfate

Fun fact, SWIFT is not Instant. I get that you want to pick fights with people over crypto, but at least know your facts and stop embellishing your answers to attempt to favor your argument. SWIFT transactions move through a chain stopping at multiple destinations during the transaction. Each stop is held up until processed and passed forward until reaching the final destination. SWIFT transactions have cut-off times, make a request after cut-off time and your transaction is held until the next business day. Even a transaction already in route can be hung up due to cut-off times of banking hours. SWIFT transactions don't move on weekends or holidays. There is nothing instant about this process.

Hot_Sacks

What’s the case for buying XRP vs BTC? Higher risk/reward? I understand the long-term thesis for BTC, and though volatile, the long term trend is pretty clear and seems to be holding up. There are also multiple paths to wider adoption. XRP seems like it’s totally path dependent based on institutional/ SWIFT adoption. Sure, the gains will be higher than BTC if that hits, but it seems like a narrow-ish success criteria. Is that close to an accurate depiction of the case for XRP, or am I missing something?

Real-Technician831

Dude, seriously. Despite brainrot that is pushed here, banking people are not amateurs, they have already switched to quantum resistant algorithms. Fun fact, SWIFT is instant, the reason banks so transactions slowly is because they can use the money in transit for making profit.

Jenn2895

Bro, the two guys running Chainlink out of a Russian nail salon didn't code the backend plumbing for SWIFT, Citi, the DTCC, etc just for you to call it 'not needed' in 2026. I think I’ll be alright. 😆 But thank you for your concern.

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Electronic_Quote399

​The most glaring issue with XRP is its tokenomics. Unlike bitcoin, which is minted by a decentralized network of global miners, Ripple created 100 billion XRP out of thin air at inception. Ripple kept a massive chunk of the supply for themselves and locked 55 billion XRP into cryptographic escrows. Every month, the escrow automatically unlocks 1 billion XRP. Ripple sells a portion of these unlocked tokens to institutional buyers or on the open market to fund their own operations, executive bonuses, and expansions. Whatever they don’t sell gets rolled over into a new escrow at the back of the line. ​Imagine investing in a stock where the CEO holds a massive vault of shares and dumps hundreds of millions of dollars worth of new supply onto the market every 30 days. It creates an artificial, permanent ceiling on price appreciation and aggressively dilutes retail investors who are HODLing while the corporation uses them as exit liquidity. ​ ​Ripple changes its story based on whichever way the wind is blowing. They constantly try to separate themselves from the token when it’s convenient, yet use it for everything. When the SEC sued them for selling unregistered securities, Ripple’s legal team aggressively argued that XRP is completely independent of Ripple Labs and is just a decentralized open source asset. Yet, their entire corporate branding, their software packages, and their marketing materials completely conflate the two. They pitch banks on Ripple's corporate ledger software, but retail investors are led to believe that bank adoption means the price of the retail token will explode. In reality, banks don't need to hold volatile retail XRP to utilize Ripple's private ledger software. ​ ​The social media ecosystem surrounding XRP is horribly unnatural. Independent investigations over the years have noted that the XRP army behaves less like a community and more like a coordinated marketing campaign. ​There are heavy allegations and strong evidence of massive bot networks on X and YouTube designed to suppress any criticism, trend artificial hashtags, and pump hyper bullish sentiment. Paid influencers and predatory YouTube channels run livestreams with clickbait titles featuring fake news about SWIFT completely replacing its network with XRP. It preys on retail investors who don't understand how institutional banking actually works. ​​True crypto projects focus on building open source tech, Ripple acts like a Wall Street cartel. During major election cycles, Ripple and its executives Brad Garlinghouse and Chris Larsen poured massive sums into PACs. They didn't donate out of ideological belief in financial freedom. They split their donations aggressively down the middle, backing both pro crypto Republicans and pro crypto Democrats. ​Chris Larsen funneled millions into super PACs supporting Democratic candidates, while other facets of their lobbying machine cozy up to the right, buying political favor from whichever takes power to ensure their corporate survival. ​ ​The price targets pushed by XRP moon boys are mathematically illiterate. You'll often see influencers claim XRP will hit $100, $500, or even $1000 "when the banks take over." With a circulating supply of 55 to 60 billion tokens, and 100 billion total max supply, you just have to use basic multiplication, price x supply = market cap. ​If XRP hits $100, its market cap would be $5.5 trillion to $10 trillion. Larger than the entire GDP of most major world superpowers. ​If XRP hits $1000, its market cap would be $55 trillion to $100 trillion. The entire amount of physical and digital money in circulation globally is roughly $100 trillion. ​To believe in $1000 XRP, you have to believe that a single, corporate controlled settlement token will capture 100% of all the money on planet Earth. It's impossible. ​When Ripple came out over a decade ago, the idea of fast, cheap cross border payments was revolutionary compared to Bitcoin’s block times. But today the tech is ancient. ​High speed, cheap L1 networks like Solana can process tens of thousands of transactions per second for fractions of a penny. Ethereum L2 networks, stablecoins, and native bank infrastructure have completely filled the cross border settlement gap. Banks would much rather settle using a stablecoin pegged to predictable fiat than a volatile altcoin like XRP. My suggestion would be to start with some Solana, Ethereum, and some bitcoin. Don't go all in until you have done your own research and become more comfortable with the market. Don't follow influencers, they all have their own agenda. Even if someone sounds like they know what they're talking about.. trust but verify. Look into what i said, what others say, and form your own opinion. Most of all, dont use anything you'll need for living expenses, you dont want to get stuck behind the 8 ball and be forced to sell at a loss, only for the asset to 3x the following month. Good luck!

UnspeakableHorror

For freelancers they have been one of the best ways for international transfers paying only a few cents at most vs hundreds of dollars using SWIFT. Fees have gone down over time as other alternatives appeared, but stablecoins are still the cheapest solution by far. If you don't need international transfers then, yeah... they are not very useful.

chubs66

Chainlink is paying at least 70% of defi, maybe more. But they're also the bridge between tradfi and blockchains. Both DTCC and SWIFT are slated to go live in 2026, which will both be done doing billions of dollars of transactions per day.

Patient_Craft2195

For me it was settlement times. Sent money abroad once through a bank, took 4 days and ₹1,800 in fees. Then I moved USDC in 30 seconds for a few cents. Never looked at SWIFT the same way again

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314_999

https://blocknow.com/swift-crypto-50-banks-jpmorgan-citi-cross-border-payments/ "30 of the 50 banks already use Ripple’s network, meaning XRP is quietly wired into SWIFT’s new infrastructure, whether SWIFT mentions it or not."

314_999

https://blocknow.com/swift-crypto-50-banks-jpmorgan-citi-cross-border-payments/ "30 of the 50 banks already use Ripple’s network, meaning XRP is quietly wired into SWIFT’s new infrastructure, whether SWIFT mentions it or not."

richlobstermeow

If that were true, why hasn’t every bank just built its own SWIFT, Visa, Mastercard, or stock exchange? Networks derive value from liquidity, counterparties, and interoperability. Anyone can fork XRP Ledger. They can’t instantly recreate the liquidity, market makers, integrations, exchanges, and ecosystem around it.

richlobstermeow

I think comparing XRP’s market cap directly to global GDP is where the argument starts to break down. GDP measures economic output. Financial assets routinely exceed GDP. Global real estate, bonds, equities, derivatives, and other stores of value are many times larger than annual GDP. I also think the velocity argument cuts both ways. If XRP is only being used as a bridge asset for a few seconds, then yes, a lower valuation can support large volumes. But if institutions, market makers, custodians, tokenized asset platforms, and liquidity providers start holding XRP inventories to reduce slippage and guarantee liquidity, velocity drops and the required value of the network rises. The other thing that gets overlooked is that Ripple today is targeting much more than payments. They’re moving into custody, tokenization, stablecoins, real world assets, capital markets infrastructure, and institutional settlement. The opportunity they’re pursuing is much larger than simply replacing SWIFT messages. I’m not saying that means $1,000 XRP is guaranteed. I just don’t think the “market cap exceeds GDP, therefore impossible” argument is enough on its own. The real question is how much XRP institutions would actually need to hold if XRPL became a major liquidity and settlement layer.

RecoveringXRPHodler

Lives off lies. Like the one that SWIFT was going to use it.

Suspicious-Can-7079

Xrp crazy price targets come from cult like propaganda that pretends it's going to be the world currency. They're using the Ethiopian calendar for their predictions because their date has already passed.. That's all you really need to know. Incoming AI slop on 1k xrp "Pure math first, then the narrative requirements. The math XRP has \~62B circulating supply and a max supply of 100B.  At $1,000/XRP: • Circulating market cap: \~$62 trillion • Fully diluted: \~$100 trillion For context, total global GDP is \~$110T. The entire US stock market is \~$50T. Bitcoin’s ATH market cap was around $2T. XRP at $1,000 would be the largest single asset in human history by a massive margin. What would actually need to happen 1. XRP becomes the dominant global payment rail. SWIFT processes \~$5T/day in cross-border flows. For XRP to justify that valuation, it would essentially need to capture a significant share of all global financial settlement — not just cross-border payments, but FX, trade finance, sovereign reserves. Even then, the question is whether XRP needs to be held to move value, or just used as a bridge (the velocity problem — high velocity = low holding requirement = lower price). 2. Massive supply reduction or burn mechanism. Unlike ETH (with EIP-1559) or BTC (21M hard cap), XRP was fixed at 100B at launch with no burn mechanism built in.  Without destroying supply, the per-token price ceiling is structurally lower than scarcer assets. 3. Ripple stops selling. Ripple controls \~42% of XRP through escrow reserves  and releases tokens on a schedule. That’s a persistent supply overhang. At $1,000, Ripple’s escrow would be worth \~$38 trillion — they’d be the richest entity ever created with enormous incentive to sell. 4. Regulatory and geopolitical tailwinds at a civilizational scale. XRP ETFs launched, SEC clarity arrived — that’s a catalyst for a $3–10 price, not $1,000. The jump from here to $1,000 is \~850x. Even the most bullish XRP scenario (replaces SWIFT, global adoption) struggles to justify more than low-to-mid three figures. Bottom line: $1,000 XRP requires a market cap that exceeds global GDP. It’s not a price target — it’s a thought experiment about whether a single crypto asset could become the reserve settlement layer of the entire world economy, with Ripple somehow not being a seller at those levels. Theoretically possible in a science fiction framing, practically implausible within any investable timeframe. If you’re bullish XRP, the realistic high-conviction range to debate is $10–50 (solid adoption, ETF flows, ODL scaling) vs. $100–200 (dominates global FX settlement, becomes quasi-reserve asset). $1,000 requires premises that would restructure the global financial system entirely."

JustStopppingBye

>They all claim SWIFT.  One doesnt claim anything, Swift does it for them. [https://www.swift.com/news-events/press-releases/swift-unlocks-potential-tokenisation-successful-blockchain-experiments](https://www.swift.com/news-events/press-releases/swift-unlocks-potential-tokenisation-successful-blockchain-experiments) [https://www.swift.com/news-events/press-releases/swift-ubs-asset-management-and-chainlink-successfully-complete-innovative-pilot-bridge-tokenized-assets-existing-payment-systems](https://www.swift.com/news-events/press-releases/swift-ubs-asset-management-and-chainlink-successfully-complete-innovative-pilot-bridge-tokenized-assets-existing-payment-systems) [https://youtu.be/AAfmgbmoAgs?si=e3HOSVPBiqckY5Rj](https://youtu.be/AAfmgbmoAgs?si=e3HOSVPBiqckY5Rj) [https://youtu.be/o6frxYOk4fA?si=rs5-7vv-0FNyRNyV&t=650](https://youtu.be/o6frxYOk4fA?si=rs5-7vv-0FNyRNyV&t=650)

AdFast1121

The only way is round robin the top 50, research the ecosystem, tokenomics, technical specs, market depth, partnerships, things that you know... matter. Select your alpha.  But remember, a tradfi partnership or enterprise partnership doesn't exist unless the non crypto party has made an announcement. No, that chain is most likely not partnered with SWIFT. They all claim SWIFT. 

No-Problem49

“To avoid sanctions” You do realize that part of avoiding sanctions means getting goods from sanctioned countries right? In the real world: people sent money to places to receive something in return. Company a buys lumber from company b. That’s currency. Of what use is a currency that I can send to Iran around the SWIFT system if all countries outside of SWIFT I can’t receive value for what I’ve sent because the sanctioned countries themselves plus the us navy prevents me from getting the goods.

Ordinary_Inspector61

Just because people use something now doesn't mean they always will. Monetary regimes change all the time in history even though they still last pretty long. Before the current regime we had the bretton woods system from post war until early 70s, before that a different system. Use of SWIFT is use of the dollar, the actual company of SWIFT has no real actual power over the network, that belongs to the US treasury and federal reserve. the dollar became the world reserve currency for a large combination of historical forces, the central one being the US was the most powerful country in the world with a dominant economy after everyone elses was destroyed by two world wars, but that does not mean it's still the optimal choice today. The US's power is eroding as central banks accumulate gold and dump treasuries. This was accelerated after the US abused its control over the network when it froze russias assets, proving to the rest of the world and especially non aligned countries that their US assets are not actually safe like they thought they were, decreasing the value proposition of the network. This abuse is inevitable when you have centralized power. Having one international reserve currency is extremely useful and makes everything easier cheaper and efficient, there's a reason the dollars dominance is so strong. At the end of the day I believe fundamentals will shine through one way or another, though it may take a long time.

Zestyclose-Power-132

Nearly all countries use SWIFT which is based in Switzerland. Not every country has to use same thing or 1 thing at all also, there are bridges. I am sorry but this is not something BTC can solve as it requires proper lobbying, bribing, engaging. BTC mainly supposed to be about storing value over inflation lately.

No-Problem49

Bitcoin is solely reliant on a stable world hegemony to succeed at being a free trade currency able to make transactions happen worldwide without any interference from some regional actor. Whether hegemon in China Russia or the USA doesn’t matter. But for sure the worst thing for bitcoin is for there to be conflict between these 3 powers for hegemony which is the stage we are at now that bitcoin promoters seemed to be looking forward to. If USA blocks the straight of Hormuz and I want to buy something from Iran using bitcoin and ship it by water it doesn’t matter that the USA can’t stop my transaction on SWIFT because they can literally just bomb whatever I buy. Bitcoins adoption case by society is actually dependent on a strong usd, a strong usa military and the willingness of the USA president to facilitate free trade using the USA navy. If company a in USA can’t legally bitcoin to buy goods from Russia then what good is the ability to avoid swift using bitcoin?

314_999

"*30 of the 50* banks already use Ripple’s network, meaning XRP is quietly wired into SWIFT’s new infrastructure, whether SWIFT mentions it or not."

JustStopppingBye

"meaning XRP is quietly wired into SWIFT’s new infrastructure" lmaoooooooo. Completely false.

Saylor_Moonboi

The power to run a laptop is trivial, compared to the energy currently being used to do the same result, using ASICS, Millions of laptops are in use every day, and could also devote a few cycles to Bitcoin, without even being noticed in the overall energy usage stats. But if you want to nit pick, SOME power is indeed needed to support the network, if it is running, but it could safely be 95 % less than is currently used to do it, with no noticeable effect on network performance. There is no reason for the price to drop in a mechanistic way, just because energy use went down. Price is determined by the market for bitcoin, which is probably more driven by emotion, than anything else at this point. There are things that can be done, if there is a credible threat to the network. You can wait more cycles to confirm transactions, as the cost to attack for 10 cycles is exponentially more than attacking for 3 cycles. You could also, (shock), actually know your customer, not in a legal compliance way, but so you could demand payment, if the transaction was reversed. Just because some code was manipulated does NOT actually not obligate your partner to just keep the money. Transactions get reversed all the time in the SWIFT system, and people still have to pay for the things they buy. Yes, its cute not to have to trust anyone on the network, but in the non-criminal world, you have legal contracts for purchases, and they are enforceable...

Saibazz

This is actually a huge Bitcoin story if it becomes real at scale. Iran is reportedly building a system called “Hormuz Safe” where ships can pay insurance and shipping-related fees using Bitcoin instead of traditional banking systems like SWIFT.

kingcakeaholic

I am my own bank and SWIFT.

After-Basket3058

Every time a major nation successfully routes around SWIFT using crypto, the argument for Bitcoin as just a speculative asset gets a little harder to make. This is not a headline about cryptocurrency anymore, this is a headline about the future architecture of global trade.

Old_Suggestions

The us would charge tolls in usd. No way they'll do anything to undermine the 'almighty dollar' . Iran is telling usd and SWIFT to go fuck themselves. China may turn to bitcoin if us debt gets much more out of hand, but that's beyond my confidence level to opine on.

Alfador8

Bitcoin is money for enemies. One of its strongest use cases is as money between parties that don't trust each other. This has increased importance since the Biden admin froze Russian assets on the SWIFT system in retaliation for starring the war in Ukraine. The message there was clear: if you piss us off, we take your money away. This move from Iran is them insulating themselves from that same risk by embracing a trustless monetary system. They won't be the last.

Romanizer

Yes, to some extent you could call stablecoins and the blockchain rails (central) banks currently are building a CBDC. Bank accounts and payments become easier programmable and more transparent for a central entity. Central banks and government will have the ability to censor and block any payment or deposit. I think SWIFT is also currently implementing a blockchain going live this year for international payments. I wonder when people will understand that Bitcoin is the only way left to store and transact value freely without censorship or having your assets seized or frozen. This will also go for real world assets once they are tokenized.

Outside_Scheme_377

Everyone is watching the $2B expiration, but nobody is watching the offramp settlement delays. I’m seeing Tier-1 VASP (Virtual Asset Service Provider) corridors through Dubai and Singapore hitting massive latency on T+0 swaps. If you’re trying to move 8 figures into fiat right now without triggering a mid-tier banking block, the standard SWIFT/SEPA rails are essentially a trap. The real liquidity is currently being moved via private ledger offsets—if you're still waiting on a standard exchange withdrawal today, you've already lost the window.

Extension-Dentist-42

Just XRP / Ripple. It's taking over SWIFT and BRICS. Trump endorses it

Then_Helicopter4243

The irony is hard to miss, the same voices that once dismissed Bitcoin and tokenization are now on stage championing them. Wall Street giants holding more BTC than sovereign funds and SWIFT executives pushing tokenization show how quickly the narrative flipped.

biba8163

> Believes the Earth is flat, and thinks XRP is going to $100 People who believe this should read the posts and comments from ~9 years ago when all the XRP shilling scammed people into believing XRP was going to $10 in 2018 because bank would be using XRP freeing up trillions in nostro/vostro accounts 🤡 > There actually is a **moral argument for XRP** *(December 2017, XRP $2.30)* > It's to do with freeing up **$27 trillion locked up in nostro accounts.** > **$10 xrp is quantifiable based on tangible assumptions** without speculation given the 5 tr dollars of x-border settlements, the 27 tr dollars locked up in nostro accounts alone. It also enables 95% of the 11000 banks on the SWIFT network to transfer peer to peer instead of proxying cross border through the mega-banks. > XRP can do a lot of good...! Fiat is debt based... mainly issued to governments and we all pay the interest. We are paying bong debt via put taxes for $27 trillion which is locked up... without getting benefit... xrp can release some of that... and that's a good thing... surely https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mzcld/reminder_ripple_xrp_is_centralized_and_they_can/dry2rn8/ > so much Ripple FUD. so many are mad cause they called ripple centralized yet ripple keeps signing on banks after banks. **Ripple will hit $10 2018 and we will still hear "but XRP is useless" "ripple is a bank coin".** *(December 2017, XRP $2.30)* https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/drxlwr2/

erikwithaknotac

Bitcoin is based on being able to move billions of dollars outside the US SWIFT system. Iran showed us how that could be useful in a world where US influence drops daily.

liquid_at

then please educate the dumb people on how you move XRP onto a fiat bank account via the SWIFT system, evading all KYC. Because if you figured that out, you're smarter than me and there are a few million criminals on earth who would really like to give you millions if not more for that knowledge. You could be rich if you figure that out. No speculation needed.

KrombopulosThe2nd

Currently there are (at least) two major (centralized) financial systems - potentially more depending on how deep and complicated you want to get... But 1. SWIFT - This is essentially the "Dollar" based system, operated by a group of the primary banks across most countries (e.g. JP Morgan, Bank of China, Deutsche Bank), overseen by the Central Banks (e.g. Rothchilds, Epstein Class) - controlled most heavily by the current Hegemon (United States) 2. CIPS - Chinese RMB based system built as an alternative to SWIFT Decentralized finance (e.g. Crypto currency) was meant to be a seperate option from the above and not rely on either of those payment systems or any major bank for transactions. That is increasingly not the case but still remains the ideal that it was designed for in the beginning.

CaptainTrader32

Hey mate! Thanks for your input. But hear me out: The global cross-border payments market is dominated by entrenched players like SWIFT, large correspondent banking networks, and increasingly fintech rails (Visa, Mastercard, regional instant payment systems). For Ripple to reach anything close to 70%, it would need near-universal bank adoption, regulatory alignment across dozens of jurisdictions, displacement of legacy systems that already process trillions daily No current data or adoption trend suggests that level of dominance is even remotely underway. Also, if RLUSD (and other stablecoins) are already handling flows, then: * Why introduce XRP volatility into the system? * Why would institutions switch from stable, fiat-backed rails to a volatile bridge asset? The industry trend right now is the opposite: * Move **toward stablecoins**, not away from them * Even Ripple itself is leaning into that direction

DPNX1000

This is genuinely significant. Iran using BTC for Hormuz transit isn't just a payment story — it's a signal that sanctioned states are actively building parallel financial rails outside SWIFT. The interesting question is whether this creates long-term demand pressure for BTC or just short-term narrative fuel. If more trade corridors start denominating settlement in crypto, the use case becomes structural rather than speculative. Either way, this is exactly the kind of real-world adoption that Bitcoin maximalists have been waiting for.

zenethics

>Just because the Swift system which is basically just agreed upon secure banking email has widespread adoption does not mean Bitcoin will have widespread adoption. Swift is not actually sending money if you know what it actually is under the hood. I don't think you understand the difference between unit of account and payment system. > Get out of your bubble for gods sake. You can't get most people to program the clock on their microwave. You think they're going to willingly shift to a lesser capable system (that actually saves you no money with fees) with wallets and key phrases, and technical jargon and all the rampant fraud everyone's constantly reading about with no recourse? The dollar is a unit of account. No dollars are "sent" anywhere when you buy something for $1. Likewise, I think in the future Bitcoin will be a unit of account. No on-chain transaction will take place when you buy something for a few sats. People will be as-removed from the idea that there is some "blockchain" down there buried in the layers somewhere as they are removed from the idea that there is some "SWIFT" system buried somewhere. Very few people will be remembering seed phrases or whatever. The blockchain will just be final settlement (between businesses and nations for 100+ Bitcoin transactions) and proof of reserves and to keep the monetary policy rigid. > For those of you that are still hopeful people are supposed to be their own bank you guys should wake up and see you are still living a pipe dream and it's crazy 15 years later. Glad I always knew it was speculation and made my money and got out, now it's just entertaining to watch how long it goes on. At this point it's hilarious to me you expect widespread adoption. And now a few whales control most of the Bitcoin anyway. Comically and undeniably hilarious. Ok, so don't buy any? Nobody here cares... There's websites dedicated to people calling the death of Bitcoin. Bitcoin has "died" like 10,000 times but each time the funeral gets more expensive to attend.

zenethics

It depends on what you mean by that. Does the SWIFT system have widespread adoption? I think it will be like that - almost nobody will own any Bitcoin on chain, but prices will be in Satoshis (maybe 20-30 years from now).

Ghost_In_The_Ape

In my example above I was mostly referring to assets (stocks, etc). Things that require assigning ownership for dividends, record date, corporate actions. Strictly cash? Crypto is fast if you stay inside crypto. The moment you touch fiat, it’s not magically faster than modern banking, it's often worse. Exchanges, KYC/AML - on ramp / off ramp - jurisdiction rules for those exchanges. Or for example if you are in Japan, you can use an American Bank debit card and withdraw cash instantly from USD->JPY as in seconds at any ATM albeit subject to exchange rate fluctuations. The banks do the heavy lifting here. Or for same curreny across borders SWIFT gpi is same day - near real time tracking, minutes usually with UETR tx reference. So probably modern SWIFT is often faster than BTC, I imagine only transaction size (over 10k) would slow it down due to some sort of compliance check. For large cash transfers (over 100k USD) I think generally you WOULD want a compliance heavy middle man (bank) to save you from loss of funds or prevent theft and serious crime when something goes wrong

choicehunter

I believe there's a misunderstanding. I wouldn't say Bitcoin is out of date any more than base layers like TCP/IP or fedwire are out of date. Bitcoin was never intended to be comprehensive. It was intended to be a foundational base layer protocol with a bunch of sub-layers built on top of it. Think of it as something like TCP/IP for the Internet. It is not intended to do everything that's possible on the Internet, but it is the base layer everything we do is built on, including advanced stuff like streaming. Or if you want a financial analogy, think of it like Fedwire with the USD system. Fedwire doesn't and can't process every single transaction with US dollars. It's not built to handle that. It is simply the base protocol and final settlement layer. It is a final settlement that doesn't get reversed. It has low throughput and high security. It relies on layer 2's or deeper nested sublayers built on top of it to act as payment layers. These are things like ACH, SWIFT, Credit Card networks, payment rails/apps built on top of bank IOUs, etc. Those aren't settlement layers, they are secondary layers that go to the base settlement layer for finality. Bitcoin works the same way. It's basically an improved version of fedwire. It's not supposed to replace credit cards or checks directly, though people could use it that way.... The intent is for daily transactions to go through secondary layers such as the lightning network or other things being built. The only way Bitcoin is out of date is related to Quantum resistance technology. I think that's the only thing that could eventually force a hard fork to resolve it. And if that ever happens, then while they're at it, I could see 51% voting to resolve the UTXO dust issues if a hard fork is happening anyway. I don't realistically see approval for almost anything else changing because it's set up great to work as a simple base layer final settlement protocol to take the place of something like Fedwire. What more does it need to do that can't simply be done with a secondary layer instead just like what fedwire does with credit cards for daily transactions since it can't handle them all itself with the low throughput?

Romanizer

SWIFT is going to implement the blockchain for international payment, so the technology is the same anyway. I could imagine that Bitcoin will be the payment system of choice for any company, branch or country that's at the slightest risk of having assets or payments frozen. Although I am not sure how SWIFT would survive that in the long term. All that with being a reserve asset as main use-case. We should pass gold's market cap very swiftly.

fajarsis02

Iran, Russia and North Korea are already blocked from SWIFT. Previously they proposed to be paid in Yuan for the tolls, but China felt unease with the proposal, so they switch to BTC. When the US also blocked China from SWIFT, that will be among the triggering event for BTC flying to Saturn..

No-Masterpiece2246

Probably easier to pay with Bitcoin, SWIFT system sanctions Iran and you better believe they're fucking around with any electronic payments destined there this week. How hard is it to buy Bitcoin? Just buy it.

Romanizer

Not because of friction, but because it doesn't solve any problems for the average joe. Payments? These are done easily directly from the bank account with a lot of apps without any friction. Store of value? Now that's something the average joe never heard of. Most are living paycheck to paycheck and can't invest in anything and especially not hold as you would with a store of value. Some try to get rich by buying during euphoria and FOMO and get burned because they need to sell again, when it crashes. Maybe there are some fringe cases where they could use Bitcoin for remittance to save costs, but those are only worth a sidenote. But yeah, by that definition Crypto will never be mainstream even if all countries in the world have a strategic reserve, SWIFT uses blockchains and stable coins for international money transfers and banks use Bitcoin as a balance sheet asset to generate liquidity.

rainy_desert

Banks can patch their systems overnight. Bitcoin requires ecosystem-wide consensus for any cryptographic upgrade, and one paper estimated ~76 days of downtime just for the transition.  SWIFT and US federal agencies are already on post-quantum timelines. Bitcoin’s leading proposal (BIP 360) is still on testnet. On top of that, 6.9M BTC already have public keys exposed on an immutable ledger. Adversaries can harvest that data now and crack it later.

Skepsis93

No, because USD can still be transacted without the use of a blockchain or cryptography even if SWIFT adopts cryptography for their own security. Stablecoin transactions can't bypass the blockchain, that is how the transactions *must* resolve.

BiggusDickus-

So if SWIFT started using cryptography to send bank wires does that make the US Dollar a crypto? Please answer that question. I'd love to hear your logic

BiggusDickus-

The coins themselves are secured through trust, not cryptography. Decentralized trust, secured with cryptogrqohy, rather than a central player is what makes something "cryptocurrency." The US dollar is NOT a cryptocurrency, nor is any other fiat. It does not matter how it is transferred. If SWIFT started using cryptography to send bank wires that would still not make the Dolllar "crypto."

SuperbAssumption

Countries like Iran using stablecoins or yuan makes sense when they’re cut off from SWIFT. But that’s very different from global oil markets *choosing* to move away from USD. Interesting signal though: stablecoins are proving useful where traditional rails fail. That’s a niche today, but niches can grow.

Tsmacks1

Project mBridge to bypass SWIFT and dollars is coming next

InvestAISavvy

He's right that USDC being backed by treasuries isn't exactly de-dollarization. But that kind of misses the point of what's actually happening here. The interesting part isn't *what* they're settling in — it's *how* they're settling. Iran is bypassing SWIFT, bypassing correspondent banking, bypassing the entire sanctions infrastructure that the US built over 20 years. And they're doing it using a dollar-denominated instrument. That's the irony — the dollar stays dominant as a unit of account, but the rails that give the US leverage over dollar flows are getting routed around. If this becomes the template for sanctioned commodity trade — stablecoins for fast settlement, no bank needed, yuan or rials as the on-ramp — then the US still has the dollar but loses the chokepoint. That's a much weirder outcome than "death of the dollar" and honestly harder to deal with from a policy perspective.

Saffuran

I'm not as familiar with low liquidity collateralized tokens like crvUSD [there is not enough of it to transact at high scale] but DAI is directly backed by stablecoins as part of its collateral -- not entirely, but USDC e.t.c. is a large part of the mix of what the DAI derives its value from. The most important aspect of USD Stablecoins - if Iran or any other nation is transacting in them through backdoors - is that they are a way to get around US Sanctions, since they exist outside of the SWIFT banking system. Using USD Stablecoins outside of SWIFT/through sanctions doesn't directly kill the dollar, but it does suppress [to an extent] the leverage the United States tries to throw around through monetary economics globally. The dollar is hit harder when more of the oil trade begins to settle in Yuan and other currencies.

Georgiy8

COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS: "The quantum threat = the end of BTC" — no, this is a threat   to a specific algorithm (ECDLP), which can be addressed through migration "Only crypto is vulnerable" — no, the same threat   applies to banks, SWIFT, HTTPS, and military systems CZ (Binance): "we just need to update the algorithms" —   true in theory, but for decentralized networks   coordinating updates is extremely difficult CORRECT INFORMATION: On March 30, 2026, Google Quantum AI published a peer-reviewed whitepaper showing a \~20x reduction in quantum resource requirements for breaking ECC-256. Theoretically, a future QC system with \~500K qubits could derive a private key in \~9 minutes during an on-spend attack (41% chance per block). \~6.9 million BTC have exposed public keys. But current hardware (105 qubits) is \~5,000 times less than what is needed. The threat is real ON THE HORIZON, not now.

Serenaded

so stupid you obviously have no idea how SWIFT works. When you create the network (CENTRALISED SLOP) the numbers they can steal mean nothing because the banks could simply freeze accounts, and in the case of SWIFT, money is actually just a programmable number that can be changed retroactively.

chubs66

"While not acting as the central depository, SWIFT provides messaging services for securities, automating the communication between asset managers, brokers, custodians, and market infrastructures to enable settlement." Ok, but there's a fine line between "do" and "enable" or "facilitate."

chubs66

Well, except it's SWIFT, so essentially a king maker in the world of financial settlements. The usual buzzword circus is hoping that someone with money will notice their really fancy tech. This, on the other hand, is the biggest player in the game telling you what tech they're using.

thistimelineisweird

1B+ would be like, what, 11k TPS consistently? I think part of that delay in settlement is, like SWIFT, just to process backlog. I know some also take even longer than one day, too.

JustStopppingBye

>Chainlink is basically a window into DeFi. Institutions like SWIFT are using it to as a steping stond, but it’s still a massive gamble if DeFi as we know it will even ever be needed. TradFi will only adopt what adds value, like trust and finality, i highly doubt it will willingly relinquish its crown and ever need the full ecosystem long term. See your whole thesis is wrong. Chainlink isnt “a window into defi” for entities like Swift. Its an oracle network that connects blockchains to real-world data, off-chain systems and **other blockchains**. Defi is just one early use case, not chainlinks endgame. Secondly, Swift arent experimenting with Chainlink " as a stepping stone into defi" .” They’re testing things like, cross-chain settlement tokenized asset transfers and interoperability between private and public systems. None of this uses defi. >TradFi won’t give up control, and that’s what Chainlink's success depends on. Theyre not....what Chainlink provides is a neutral coordination layer between them, just like what Swift is between banks (and why Swift has been invested in Chainlink since 2016)

East-Day-7888

Well my personal view, Chainlink is basically a window into DeFi. Institutions like SWIFT are using it to as a steping stond, but it’s still a massive gamble if DeFi as we know it will even ever be needed. TradFi will only adopt what adds value, like trust and finality, i highly doubt it will willingly relinquish its crown and ever need the full ecosystem long term. Crypto is like the dot-com bubble. After consolidation, the need for broad DeFi access will likely disappear. I believe in distributed ledgers, that’s why I buy HBAR for. But I don’t see a full shift to decentralization. TradFi won’t give up control, and that’s what Chainlink's success depends on. SWIFT using Chainlink is testing a public comitment to defi. If DeFi proves necessary, they’ll likly fire chainlink and build their own. If they think it has a strong likelihood to fail, outsourcing to link is the smarter move, instead of investing creating their own. So I appreciate your unquestioning devout loyalty to link, but fact that swift is parentered to link is only evidence that swift also believes defi will fail at bubble pop.

shyanzik

Found this after digging around ChatGPT for info on SWIFT and Linea. Pretty wild if Ethereum L2 is really getting pulled into payment rails like that, thanks for posting.

Scottex99

Except stablecoins already captured almost all the flows, and will capture SWIFT too

Long_University_7864

XRP market cap doesn’t matter. It’s not considered a security. It’s infrastructure, a faster/safer/cheaper and more efficient way to settle payments. A highway for money. What % of the SWIFT network can we capture. Just 5% would equate a token around $180. Is how you look at value.

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CaptainDongguan

Yup with all the stable coin infrastructure, sanction on SWIFT looks like a joke 🤣

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UC_DiscExchange

You thought I was talking about SWIFT the payment service, not swift as in the word meaning quick? Damn your ability to understand context is non-existent.

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RichardRichard777

Chainlink works with SWIFT Maybe HBAR and XLM. Do a reaserch on their partnerships. Quant (QNT) is also solid project with low supply. Good choice may be also ICP. Always do reaserch and check theit partnerships. Many of theese crypto are now working with a banks and financials institutions. Good luck

kallebo1337

Coinbase or Kraken don't have domestic bank accounts thus the money is sent via SWIFT abroad -> capped at 2k EUR. OPs chance is buying locally with Hryvinia and take a 10% loss to swap into USD. then sell USD locally on Bitpanda and have it converted to EUR and withdraw. Take a total of 10-15% in fees and he's good.

sean_hash

714,285 transactions per coin is the wrong unit . what matters is how many *settlement finality events* that buys you compared to a SWIFT wire at $25-45 each.

BTCWallahFXEmpire

You’re asking the right question. Note these points. I wrote them in a rush and asked GPT to "polish the f\*\*\* out." **1) “XRP will replace SWIFT” sounds bigger than the proof.** After years, we still don’t see clear, massive real-world bank usage that matches the hype. Most cross-border money still runs on SWIFT/correspondent banking, and a lot of “crypto settlement” today is happening with stablecoins (USDT/USDC) because they don’t swing in price. **2) Small/mid banks needing big XRP reserves is a real problem.** People say “they can use on-demand liquidity,” but someone still has to provide deep XRP liquidity in every corridor. If liquidity is thin, costs rise (slippage), and banks hate that kind of uncertainty. **3) The $50 XRP argument isn’t the main issue.** Price per coin doesn’t matter much because XRP is divisible. The real issue is volatility: a bridge asset that can drop/rip fast is risky for payments. **4) Ripple owning a lot creates an overhang.** Even if they don’t “control” price, big supply concentration means markets expect more supply, which can cap upside. **5) “It’s an L1” doesn’t fix adoption.** Lots of L1s exist. The core promise was cross-border dominance — and that’s still not obvious.

FrankSlipHelp

>\\\*\\\*Consider what we know:\\\*\\\* Ok I’ll expect credible sources then. >1. How it’s used to conduct cross-border payments Plenty of info direct from Ripple on this. >2. Ripple owns the majority of shares, primarily (IMO) so they can control the price Coins, not shares. XRP is not a share of stock of Ripple, Ripple did not issue XRP, XRP ownership does not transfer to Ripple ownership. How would owning a majority of coins control price? Look at the daily, weekly and monthly trading volume and explain what price control Ripple’s monthly escrow or other OTC sales could possibly happen. The math doesn’t math. Ask your favorite AI agent to do the math for you. >3. The goal is worldwide adoption/to replace SWIFT Credible source on this? Ripple has stated that they expect to take some marketshare from Swift due to the nature of the technology and banks wanting to have faster cheaper payments without holding nostro vostro accounts, but nowhere have I ever read that the software RipplePayment’s was intended to replace swift. Swift is a secure messaging platform, Swift does not move value, RipplePayments moves value, it is also a secure messaging platform. >How will smaller and mid-size banks adopt the technology if they can’t afford to buy the large amount of xrp needed in their reserve to conduct transactions? They don’t need to hold XRP in reserve, RipplePayment’s is a software suite and when ODL (on demand liquidity) is used no nostro / vostro accounts are needed. >XRP is intended to represent an amount, the amount of money being sent, as I understand it. It would be stupid if it was worth $50 where the dollar is worth $1, right? No. This post is from David Schwartz. >It can’t be dirt cheap. That doesn’t make any sense. If XRP costs $1, they’d need a million XRP which would cost $1 million. If XRP cost a million dollars, they’d need one XRP which would, again, cost $1 million. >Except that higher prices make payments cheaper. Right now, you can buy a million dollar house with bitcoins. When bitcoins where $300, it would move the market too much and be too expensive to be practical. So higher prices make payments cheaper. ~ David Schwartz recently retired CTO of Ripple and co-creator of the XRPL and XRP ~ https://x.com/joelkatz/status/932748963526066178?s=61 Slippage is real, and why moving the market makes payments more expensive, in order to not do that a higher value coin helps with keeping payments cheaper. >Does ripple control the price because THEY HAVE TO in order to KEEP IT LOW to operate as intended? Ripple does not control the price. Let’s use critical thinking here. If this was the case, wouldn’t that have been discovered during the 5 years that the SEC had full access to every financial document Ripple had? Wouldn’t that have been a ‘gotcha’ for the SEC? No, and they know what you don’t, Ripple does not control the price, has no means to control the price, and there is no evidence they have controlled the price. >Is xrp essentially a “hybrid” version of a stable coin (I know it’s not one technically). But it just seems like it has to remain stable or it can’t function as it’s intended. Your logic used here is false, it may ‘seem’ this way to you, but I don’t know where you derive your assumptions from, but from what I have read from you i’d say you need to get info from the source and not 3rd party. XRP is a country neutral crypto currency that has no central authority, stable coins are issued by companies and under regulation by the jurisdictions they are used in. >CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IM AN IDIOT AND EXPLAIN WHAT IM MISSING? Not an idiot, but you don’t know what you don’t know. Same for everyone until due diligence is done and even then there is always more to discover about what you don’t know and learn.

mrcaulimanXRPL

You’re not an idiot. You’re just mixing up what XRP actually does. 1. XRP does not “represent” the amount being sent. It’s a bridge asset. Temporary liquidity. It exists for seconds in a transaction. USD → XRP → MXN Done. It doesn’t need to equal the dollar. It needs liquidity and depth. 2. “How can small banks afford it if it’s expensive?” Higher price actually makes it easier. If XRP is $1, you need 10M units to move $10M. If XRP is $50, you need 200k units to move $10M. Higher unit price = fewer tokens required per transfer. They also don’t need to sit on massive reserves. On-demand liquidity exists specifically to remove prefunding. Liquidity is sourced when needed. 3. “Does Ripple keep it low on purpose?” No. Ripple doesn’t control the open market. Escrow isn’t price control. If they could control price, the SEC years wouldn’t have happened the way they did. 4. “Does it need to stay stable or low to function?” It needs liquidity and reduced volatility over time. Nominal price is irrelevant. Gold works at $2,000. Bitcoin works at $60,000. A bridge asset can function at $5 or $500. The math scales. 5. “Is it basically a stablecoin?” No. Stablecoins are pegged. XRP is neutral liquidity between two volatile or fiat assets. Now the real part. People believe it can run because if even a fraction of global cross-border liquidity routes through XRP, demand for bridge liquidity scales hard. Global cross-border flows are in the trillions. You don’t need total SWIFT replacement. You need meaningful corridor penetration. That’s the thesis. You weren’t wrong to question it. You were just aiming at the wrong mechanics.

mrcaulimanXRPL

You’re not an idiot. You’re just mixing up what XRP actually does. 1. XRP does not “represent” the amount being sent. It’s a bridge asset. Temporary liquidity. It exists for seconds in a transaction. USD → XRP → MXN Done. It doesn’t need to equal the dollar. It needs liquidity and depth. 2. “How can small banks afford it if it’s expensive?” Higher price actually makes it easier. If XRP is $1, you need 10M units to move $10M. If XRP is $50, you need 200k units to move $10M. Higher unit price = fewer tokens required per transfer. They also don’t need to sit on massive reserves. On-demand liquidity exists specifically to remove prefunding. Liquidity is sourced when needed. 3. “Does Ripple keep it low on purpose?” No. Ripple doesn’t control the open market. Escrow isn’t price control. If they could control price, the SEC years wouldn’t have happened the way they did. 4. “Does it need to stay stable or low to function?” It needs liquidity and reduced volatility over time. Nominal price is irrelevant. Gold works at $2,000. Bitcoin works at $60,000. A bridge asset can function at $5 or $500. The math scales. 5. “Is it basically a stablecoin?” No. Stablecoins are pegged. XRP is neutral liquidity between two volatile or fiat assets. Now the real part. People believe it can run because if even a fraction of global cross-border liquidity routes through XRP, demand for bridge liquidity scales hard. Global cross-border flows are in the trillions. You don’t need total SWIFT replacement. You need meaningful corridor penetration. That’s the thesis. You weren’t wrong to question it. You were just aiming at the wrong mechanics.

mrcaulimanXRPL

You’re not an idiot. You’re just mixing up what $XRP actually does. 1. $XRP does not “represent” the amount being sent. It’s a bridge asset. Temporary liquidity. It exists for seconds in a transaction. USD → $XRP → MXN Done. It doesn’t need to equal the dollar. It needs liquidity and depth. 2. “How can small banks afford it if it’s expensive?” Higher price actually makes it easier. If $XRP is $1, you need 10M units to move $10M. If $XRP is $50, you need 200k units to move $10M. Higher unit price = fewer tokens required per transfer. They also don’t need to sit on massive reserves. On-demand liquidity exists specifically to remove prefunding. Liquidity is sourced when needed. 3. “Does Ripple keep it low on purpose?” No. Ripple doesn’t control the open market. Escrow isn’t price control. If they could control price, the SEC years wouldn’t have happened the way they did. 4. “Does it need to stay stable or low to function?” It needs liquidity and reduced volatility over time. Nominal price is irrelevant. Gold works at $2,000. Bitcoin works at $60,000. A bridge asset can function at $5 or $500. The math scales. 5. “Is it basically a stablecoin?” No. Stablecoins are pegged. $XRP is neutral liquidity between two volatile or fiat assets. Now the real part. People believe it can run because if even a fraction of global cross-border liquidity routes through $XRP, demand for bridge liquidity scales hard. Global cross-border flows are in the trillions. You don’t need total SWIFT replacement. You need meaningful corridor penetration. That’s the thesis. You weren’t wrong to question it. You were just aiming at the wrong mechanics.

Carterlil21

Anyone can publish their own copy of bitcoin, but EVERYONE can see that it is not the original. Bitcoin is verifiable. If you think it's not useful, you have never tried to transfer a reasonable sum of money across boarders, or make a large transfer happen quickly, or make that transfer on weekends. You can't compare bitcoin to venmo or other transfer services, because these services don't actually move money, they just change numbers on their internal accounts. If any went bankrupt or refused your transfer, you would have no access to your money. Look into how many US banks have collapsed in the past 5 years. Bitcoin is a global payments settlement layer. The closest thing you can compare it to is SWIFT, which is the global banking payments settlement layer. Swift will charge $300 for a $10,000 transaction. Bitcoin will charge 30 cents. Swift will take 2+ business days to complete the transfer. Bitcoin will take 2 minutes to verify the transfer and it will be finalized within a few hours. Swift requires intermediaries to confirm and approve transactions, and sometimes it refuses to approve the transaction at all. Bitcoin's transaction will go through 100% of the time as long as you have the funds in your wallet to initiate the transfer. A government subpoena can not stop or even slow a transaction. You don't understand what you are talking about