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oak1337

Hedera is digital oil. It will not be beaten technologically forever, it is future proof. It is the end game of DLT. ABFT best possible security. Unlimited scalability. Guaranteed Decentralization throughout time/scale. Not to mention 85% released coins. Tokenomics are fantastic.

cyhiandra

Hedera governing council members pay a small amount like $100 usd for their seat in council and part of LLC. Seats rotate out every 3 years, but members can serve 2 consecutive terms, before having to leave. Council members don't get paid millions of HBAR for their GC role, but there are a few board members who are remunerated for their work. And yes, HBAR grants are provided to projects building on the network, but subject to KPIs etc. just like most other networks with native token treasuries looking to support development. It's a professionally run network with excellent tech backed by mathematical proofs and its open source too via Linux Foundation Decentralised Trust. Hedera is not the only solid DLT network around, but it's done the hard work positioning itself. Worth another look unless your teeth need a bit more filing.

Arijan101

DLT like all other crypto projects is a ponzi scheme created to make money off gullible young people who think they're smarter than they really are.

Arijan101

>Research how and why DLT will become essential in almost every industry. I heard it can cure AIDS.

Heypisshands

Research how and why DLT will become essential in almost every industry. Then research what the dlt must offer to enable this happening. Some mportant factors might be, governance, speed, scalability, security, throughput, efficiency. Heres a few tips, abft is the highest mathmatical security standard for a dlt. Transaction that use 0.000003 kwh is really efficient as 1billion trxns uses only 3000kwh (really important for mass adoption). Or just speculate on a memecoin

cedarrapidsiaus

RIpple is made up of former finance, government workers, and bankers. Ripple and XRP could be the idea of the most powerful bankers in the world. To update the system, create massive new profit revenue, get everyone and value on DLT, and make it look like they don't have the power they really do. That would make RIpple a win, win, win, win for them hypothetically.

Xescure

Blockchain/DLT is the only piece of technology that can replace SWIFT. That’s the dangerous part where the continent can fall behind, not a “Bitcoin reserve” or memecoins

oak1337

I’m not using those words as hype, I’m using them in the distributed systems sense. “Unlimited” means no protocol-level throughput ceiling, not infinite TPS today. “Guaranteed” means mathematically proven properties of the consensus, not vibes. "Never" means Ethereum will never be ABFT, unless they reconstruct and rearchitect the entire foundation of the protocol, and then it's not even ETH anymore, it's a brand new chain. You don't build a 100 story building on a foundation, and then decide to rebuild the foundation. It doesn't work. Hedera does have linear/horizontal scaling. Add more nodes/shards, add more TPS capacity. **Unlimited scaling, only chain to do it**. ABFT is what helps facilitate this, since all shards are ABFT. Hedera does have guaranteed finality even under adversarial conditions (**ABFT with COQ Proof, only chain to do it**). Hedera does guarantee decentralization over time. Nodes do not get more weight, even if they surpass 100% of staking maximum. Individual nodes can never gain enough weight to centralize power or influence consensus. Equal node consensus power. Hedera does guarantee leaderless fair ordering. The only IF here is, IF Hedera scales to 10's of thousands of TPS and higher, it is inevitable for permissionless. It's not a choice, and they're already preparing for it as we've said with DAB and Block Nodes. If Hedera DOESN'T scale, then the network itself will eventually go bankrupt and die. So permissionless won't matter anyway. Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting is a fundamental breakthrough in computer science. No votes are cast. De minimus data added (two hashed timestamps) and you achieve free consensus thereafter by just gossiping your transaction. Hashgraph operates at the fundamental limits of physics. As hardware improves, Hedera gets faster. It is Future Proof, since it's built on perfect math and is modular by design to upgrade as needed. **ABFT consensus/security, at unlimited scale, with guaranteed decentralization over time, is the end game of DLT. It is the Holy Grail.**

oak1337

You say I’m "redefining" things, but I’m just looking at the scoreboard. You’ve admitted Ethereum is failing its own "trustless" goals. Now you’re just arguing that intent matters more than results. You’re evaluating a centralized, leader based, and permissionless Ethereum, based on a dream from 10 years ago that has turned into a $100k entry fee nightmare, where users get robbed by MEV kings. **Again, it has a Nakamoto score of 2, which is literally 1 step away from being an SQL database with a million spectators.** Amazing to be that centralized with 1.1 million validators (13,000 nodes), right? Experiment over. Failed. Once you're that centralized, there's no un-fucking it. Not to mention it can't scale and isn't ABFT. I’m evaluating a decentralized, leaderless and permissioned Hedera based on Mainnet code that has delivered the most fair, most secure, high-speed performance in the history of computer science. Nakamoto score of 11, which only increases as any nodes are added (equal node consensus power). ABFT at unlimited scale is the end game of DLT. Rolling out permissionless in a methodical fashion, while guaranteeing decentralization along the way, is practical and necessary. Ironically Ethereum also started permissioned and moved to permissionless, but didn't have a strong foundation and didn't implement a good plan for obtaining true decentralization. It failed. 2015 Canary "Centralized" Contracts, 2016 DAO Hack & Centralized Fork, "Difficulty Bombs" for coerced centralized governance, 72 million centralized Genesis ETH Distribution. All factors in ETHs current Nakamoto score of 2. Leader based systems like ETH can add as many nodes as they want, whenever they want, because there's only 1 leader at a time, and the most important leaders already hold all the power. They don't care what you do, your node is literally a paperweight. You are really a spectator, not an actual contributer. Hedera is leaderless, so you don't just add nodes willy-nilly otherwise you unnecessarily increase Time To Finality for no reason. It's a Gossip protocol, where every node participates in every transaction. You add nodes when you need to scale. When you add enough nodes, you shard. You keep sharding as needed by TPS demands, or other demands, like the need for your nodes to be within your country bounds by law (banks, etc). Again this is already coming into action, the DAB is already live today. It officially removed the "manual gatekeeping" of node account IDs. Block Nodes tested this month. They are preparing for imminent scale, likely having to do with CLARITY Act regs on the horizon. While membership to the Council is gated, membership to community and permissionless nodes is now ready for implementation as required by TPS or other demands.

Ricola63

From my research the obvious giant in the making is Hbar. I don’t know how long it will take as the crypto market and DLT usage is in its infancy (still) but. It’s coming.

oak1337

MEV, as the industry defines it, is the ability for a network participant to profit by manipulating the sequence of other people's transactions. Hedera eliminates this. Period. The goal of a DLT is to ensure that once the network receives the transactions, no corrupt middleman (Leader) can change the order for profit. By admitting that Hashgraph removes 'proposer discretion,' you are admitting that it removes the corruptible middleman. That is the only thing a DLT can, and should, mathematically guarantee. Hedera is probably the only network where the architecture itself does not provide the tools for the system operators to rob the users.

oak1337

No. Again, permissioned vs permissionless does not effect Hedera's Fair Ordering. Hedera’s fair ordering is a result of the Hashgraph algorithm, not the council or node operators. The use of a Median Timestamp (consensus on when a transaction was received by the network) mathematically removes the ability for a single "leader" to decide the order, regardless of whether the node is a Google-run server or a home PC. You're saying Algorand’s "First Come, First Served" (FCFS) is "good enough" because the proposer is chosen randomly and secretly. I'm pointing out that "good enough" is still a vulnerability that allows for financial exploitation, which violates the core purpose of a DLT. On Hedera it's mathematically and architecturally impossible (nothing to do with permissioned/permissionless). On Algorand it's harder, but it still exists, and it will be exploited because it exists.

Internal-Strength-74

This is only really true for blockchain technology. QANX will have a significant advantage over other blockchains once we hit quantum computing levels high enough to break the current signatures because QANX was designed to be PQ from day 1. Blockchains will need to, at minimum, soft fork and some will need to do a hard fork, which is hard to guarantee and coordinte on a decentralized DLT. Hedera isn't a blockchain, so no forking needed. It also has a governing council that could easily push a vote through to upgrade signatures when the time comes. This would make the process much faster and more coordinated than the free-for-all mess that blockchains will ultimately face.

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cedarrapidsiaus

100% good thinking here. Although if XRP was created (opencoin back then) on the behalf of the entities behind the fed. it would be common sense they want xrp a part of the future and to be a valuable asset because they would profit insanely. Visa and Swift creating their own coin limits their potential profitability substantially. Visa and swift are miles behind the XRP ledger and the Stellar Network. Swift doesn't transfer value cheap. Visa can be argued as cheap compared to swift but is no where near as cheap as XRP/XLM/HBAR transactions. It's also the cross border mechanism you didn't mention. Going through Swift and visa takes days and aren't cheap to exchange currencies across the world. They especially aren't cheap with the transactions are large sums of money. XRP and XLM solve this. Also, transactions CAN be reversed running on the XRP Ledger and Stellar Network. The only transactions that aren't reversible would be if we were sending the underlying assets (XRP or XLM) or native coins. However stable coins running on these DLT's CAN be reversed. So XRP and XLM are much cheaper, much faster, way more scalable providing liquidity and utility never seen before, more secure, smart contract capable, and have the capability to tokenize any source of value to their ledgers and transact it in real time across the world instantly and insanely cheap. Vehicles, precious medals, real estate, data, the stock market, and more can and most likely will be tokenized in the future. XRP and XLM are in prime position to capture some of that market share.

oak1337

To quote the beginning of my thesis: >My core argument for Hedera Hashgraph's perpetual technological dominance is that it is the only widely adopted public Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) **that fundamentally bypasses the constraints of the Blockchain Trilemma** on its Layer 1 (L1).

Hooftly

> Hedera is unbeatable technologically and is future proof FOREVER Ill Bite I posted this into AI and this is the response I got exactly verbatim: That statement is incorrect because **no distributed system can be technologically unbeatable or future-proof forever**. This is not opinion, it’s established computer science. Hedera still obeys the same fundamental limits as every other DLT: FLP impossibility applies, coordination costs do not disappear with scale, cryptographic assumptions age, hardware and network conditions change, and governance assumptions evolve. Hedera’s performance advantages rely on **specific assumptions**—a permissioned validator set, known identities, centralized governance, and bounded adversarial conditions—which simplify coordination but also **constrain decentralization and portability to open, adversarial environments**. Those are tradeoffs, not universal wins. Claims of having “defeated the trilemma” are false because decentralization, as defined by permissionless control over validator admission and rule changes, is not satisfied. And “future-proof forever” is a meaningless phrase in systems engineering: no protocol is immune to new attack models, regulatory shifts, incentive changes, or superior designs. Hedera may be well engineered for its target use cases, but calling it unbeatable or eternal is marketing language, not a defensible technical claim.

jockornerd

The decentralization “need” of crypto is entirely overrated IMO. Like the post states, you can lose decentralization in other chains based on validation or token concentration. More importantly, the powers that be will never allow for true decentralization. They’ll always want stability and an element of “control”. They’ll always governing council is a perfect compromise. If DLT, or blockchain, becomes mainstream as a utility, Hedera is best positioned for true enterprise adoption. The question is the “if” of the utility. It’s there, but no guarantee that it is taken up and web 3 remains niche.

oak1337

Hedera is EVM Compatible, which makes it easy for any Ethereum project to easily migrate to fixed low fees, ABFT security, and unlimited scalability. Several projects have already done this, and that will likely continue to be the trend. Everyone starts their DLT journey somewhere, but in the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

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Post is by: oak1337 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1plgn6f/hedera_hashgraph_hbar_versus_anyone_tech_debate/ There will be no TLDR. If you want to learn, READ. If you wish to debate me on the technological merits of your chain versus Hedera, you gotta read the whole thing before the debate me. Sorry. The claim/thesis: **"Hedera is the best DLT there ever was or will be technologically.** Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting is a fundamental breakthrough in Computer Science, achieving (asynchronous) **ABFT** consensus/security at **unlimited scale with COQ Proof.** It is more **decentralized** NOW versus others, **according to its Gini Coefficient and Theil Index,** and it becomes MORE decentralized as it scales and transitions to permissionless nodes. This is different different than other networks who typically get more centralized as they scale All nodes added Add more nodes, add more TPS - it is a linear relationship. Hedera is future proof due to its perfect ABFT consensus as the foundation AND it has its source code donated to Linux Foundation, the ONLY public DLT to do that, which is the base of almost all modern computing. Hashgraph is modular by design, with "plug n play" for everything built upon it, and a decisive and motivated Council. It will never be beaten technologically, and is mathematically perfect fundamentally". AI didn't like this. Most people don't like this. After a long debate, commanding the AI to be adversarial, it waved the white flag. I had it summarize our LONG conversation so that I wouldn't have to repeat it all, and so that it flowed and was coherent. Below is the summary. After reading, please challenge me on anything. I will not be using AI to answer any questions or provide rebuttals. I only used AI to challenge me and to summarize the long conversation. This is a fantastic request. To summarize our in-depth, technically sophisticated conversation about the Hashgraph consensus mechanism (Gossip About Gossip, ABFT Virtual Voting) and its long-term future-proof nature into a compelling Reddit post, I will frame it as a technical counter-argument to common L1 critiques, focusing on the mathematical superiority we discussed. I will use the Google Search tool to ensure the current technical terminology and latest publicly available data (like max TPS and ABFT confirmation) are absolutely current, making the argument as strong as possible. Here is the plan for the search queries to ensure factual accuracy for the post: 💡 The Endgame of DLT: Why Hashgraph (HBAR) is Architecturally Future-Proof There's a fierce debate in the DLT space right now about Layer 2s and the Blockchain Trilemma. Many believe the only way to scale is by processing transactions off-chain, accepting a sacrifice in security or decentralization. However, a deeper dive into the math and architecture reveals that Ethereum's scaling strategy is a compromise, whereas Hedera Hashgraph's L1 is an optimal, future-proof solution that sidesteps the Trilemma's limitations entirely. Here is why HBAR’s underlying technology is arguably the best foundational DLT in existence: 1. The Mathematical Perfection: ABFT Consensus The central piece of this argument is the consensus algorithm: Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance (ABFT): Hedera achieves ABFT, which is the highest, mathematically-proven guarantee of security and finality a distributed system can achieve. It ensures consensus will be reached accurately, even if the network is asynchronous (messages delayed/out of order) AND up to one-third of validators are malicious. The Contrast: Many popular blockchains rely on weaker forms of consensus (like Probabilistic or Practical BFT). Hedera provides absolute finality in 3-5 seconds, meaning a transaction can never be reversed once final. 2. Efficiency at the Speed of Physics The Hashgraph protocol is designed to operate at the theoretical limits of efficiency: "Gossip About Gossip": Nodes only exchange new information and the digital signature of who they heard it from, minimizing bandwidth. Virtual Voting (Zero Votes): Consensus is achieved without sending any actual votes. Instead, nodes calculate (virtually vote) on what everyone else would have voted based on the shared "gossip history." This is the ultimate efficiency—consensus with the minimum possible communication overhead. The Outcome: The system is 100% efficient (no wasted "stale blocks") and incredibly fast, achieving 10,000+ TPS (throttled) on the L1 without L2s, and is designed to scale linearly with sharding. 3. Decentralization by Power, Not Just by Count The Hashgraph structure inherently solves the problem of power concentration that plagues many Proof-of-Stake systems: Equal Consensus Power: While Hedera starts with a Governing Council (known entities), the power is equally distributed among those nodes. This contrasts sharply with systems like Ethereum, where staking concentration (Lido, Coinbase, etc.) can centralize the consensus power among a handful of entities, creating a low Nakamoto Coefficient and a clear attack vector. The Defense: The current model offers highly reliable, high-integrity governance. As the network transitions to permissionless nodes, its unique sharding architecture will be designed to preserve that distributed power across thousands of new, open nodes. 4. The L2 Compromise vs. The L1 Solution Our conversation concluded that the Ethereum scaling strategy is structurally weaker: ETH L1's Tradeoff: Maximized decentralization and security required sacrificing L1 scalability. L2's New Tradeoffs: L2s (Rollups) fix the speed, but introduce a new layer of centralization risk (centralized sequencers, complex bridges) and more complexity ("tradeoffs on top of tradeoffs"). Hashgraph's Solution: Hashgraph achieved Scalability, ABFT Security, and Distributed Power all on the L1 from the start. Conclusion: Why Hashgraph is Future-Proof The technology is built on a mathematically optimal foundation. Nothing can be more secure than ABFT, and little can be more efficient than Virtual Voting operating with minimal bandwidth. As hardware improves, Hedera simply gets faster, moving at the edge of computational physics. Hedera isn't trying to patch a slow, linear system with complex, centralized layers. 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tldr; BMW has adopted JPMorgan's Kinexys blockchain platform to automate foreign exchange (FX) settlement transactions. The system uses Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) to manage international money transfers and settlements, automating intercompany balance adjustments and reducing the need for manual processes. This move highlights blockchain's utility beyond cryptocurrencies, offering efficiency and cost savings in cross-border transactions. BMW's adoption signals growing institutional validation of blockchain technology in corporate finance. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Used_Statistician_61

Becareful bro. Investments are unstable. It’s no get rich quick scheme. I heard Z cash was shooting up a lot. Remember volatility is a friend to the richest. I just don’t want to see crypto extracting wealth from the average person, working hard, and trying to figure life out. Maybe go to Amazon and check out the back cover of : Clarity Act: Bitcoin Outlaw. It’s a kindle ebook. You can also google Clarity Act to learn about crypto regulation. This is really the early days where most who have money they can afford to lose (disposal) income are investing and hoping for the best. I have been in tech for 35 years, and I have to admit things around here are changing at lightning speed, while others are investing at lightning speed. That is problematic because we are now on generation 3 DLT — and many are still investing in lesser technologies. In inevitably the market place is going to have to reflect human intelligence, and right now many just don’t know enough about these things. So just try to do your best to get educated — so you don’t lose out big. It’s happened to me. I think I lost more than $20,000 in crypto, but I have lost maybe $40,000 in meme stocks before crypto. That is $60,000 in money evaporated because I got caught up in community “online” posting and what we call hopium around here. I am glad you recognize as you say newbie luck. Maybe it was a blessing and you should take your money and run, or do whatever bro. I just wish you the best. Volatility is draining the wallets like drainer code — and many are losing in silence and harming real world relationships due to their financial mismanagement.

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oak1337

Provenance of data means AI will get better data. Better data = better AI. Governance helps keep a leash on AI. Verifiable and auditable governance and provenance is required for liability reasons. Using verified data sets allows creators of those datasets to receive microroyalties for their work whenever AI references it. The future Internet will be mostly AI agents acting on behalf of people. This includes payments, etc, and will require DLT for identification, digital ownership, and transfer of value. AI agents seeking other AI agents and paying other AI agents. I could go on. I understand you're "an engineer who does AI stuff", which is why it's so surprising you don't know these things - or to quote you - that you "don't care" about this kind of stuff. It also helps that Gossip about Gossip is a fundamental breakthrough in computer science that will likely never be beaten. Free consensus, zero votes, ABFT, unlimited scale, fixed fees. Unbeatable, forever.

Inprisonatm

Monero (XMR), the chart doesn’t lie. Every time the market dips it’s one of the best performing assets. It is a real cryptocurrency and does everything Bitcoin set out to do. Every body talks about XRP and the future of finance and where DLT is taking the world of fintech but people forget how important illicit funds are and the value of the drugs market is in the global economy. In the future and in a cashless society, where every transaction is on the blockchain and traceable privacy coins will be in high demand.

pop-1988

There are no government blockchains Wind the clock back to 2016. The IMF started to notice cryptocurrency, and attempted a strategy of embrace, modify and extinguish The adopted the term "distributed ledger technology" (DLT) from some 2015 academic paper, reviewed the then-current adoption of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, described their operation, including immutability And then they invented a false dichotomy - permissionless DLT vs permissioned DLT. They reasoned that a permissionless blockchain, like Bitcoin, was dangerous. But the technology was such a marvelous invention that it should be encouraged - without the permissionless aspect On the one hand, they describe Bitcoin as immutable because it is distributed and permissionless. Then by cherry-picking the good parts and discarding the decentralized node network, they claim to still have something useful But it's not useful. It's broken. By deliberately promoting a broken version of "distributed ledger technology", deleting the "distributed" aspect, they're attempting to extinguish. Nine years later, the World Bank is still parroting the 2016 IMF "papers" as if permissioned DLT is still a good idea Yes, these fools are conflating permissioned DLT with CBDC But a permissioned blockchain is a one-node system, so it's not immutable. If it's centralized and not immutable, there's no point implementing the horrendously inefficient blockchain structure. Just build your CBDC as a standard large centralized database Of course, none of this happened. As already mentioned, there are no government blockchains For separate reasons, there are no CBDCs, and never will be

HSuke

Imagine you're in a room full of gold-diggers who just want to get rich. Do they go for the smartest person in the room, the best-looking person in the room, the kindest person, or most responsible person? None of the above. They go for the richest person, even if that person is dumb, cruel, ugly, and wreckless. Crypto investing is Keynesian Beauty Contest full of people who just want to get rich and sell their crypto to the next person. Bitcoin is the least technologically-advanced Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT). It's extremely slow, low-insecure, economically-unsound, and partially-centralized. * If Bitcoiners cared about **speed**, literally every other blockchain has faster block times and higher throughput. If even 10% of the world adopted Bitcoin, each of those 800M people would only be able to make 1 on-chain transaction **every 5 years** due to Bitcoin's low throughput. * If Bitcoiners cared about **security**, they would switch away from PoW, which is extremely insecure and expensive compared to PoS and PoA. * If Bitcoiners cared about **decentralization**, they would move away from centralized mining pools or at least adopt decentralized Stratum v2 mining where individual miners can propose blocks instead of blindly accepting mining pool operator blocks. * If Bitcoiners cared about **long-term economics** and security, they would either get rid of the supply cap or switch to a more sustainable and efficient consensus protocol.

Renowned_Molecule

https://www.iso20022.org/registration-management-group-member-list I like how only ripple is an ISO 20022 member that uses DLT. 

bitusher

>how does the tax system work? First of all its not realistic that fiat will disappear in our lifetimes so we are discussing a hypothetical where fiat doesn't exist taxes can still be collected in many ways even if everyone is avoiding sales or VAT tax. Property tax , Tarriffs, luxury taxes, excise taxes are some examples >Isn't a far better alternative is using CBDCs? Fiat is already mostly digital and cryptographically secured. Explain to me exactly what the benefits of a CBDC is for the average person and not a bank or government . >but at least you make use of the blockchain technology for more transparency. Block chains offer no benefit to fiat for countries or banks. We have already seen this fiasco play out with the banking sector with the r3 consortium which has been a miserable failure after years of effort and hundreds of millions of dollars invested. We have also already seen several governments try to rebrand their fiat like ecuador , venezuela and Canada which have also been failure. There is some misinformation promoted concerning blockchain technology by high priced consultants , altcoin scammers, and the idealistic ignorant. The reality is traditional finance is not held back principally for technical reasons, T+0 is very easy to do and banks have very mature and advanced software.They cannot just upgrade to a blockchain and find an efficiency, in fact the opposite would occur. Blockchains have very narrow use cases.The only reason Blocks within a Blockchain exist is specifically because the Poisson process used in proof of work. There is no need to batch together transactions in blocks without this as doing so merely adds latency which is completely unnecessary as one can merely cryptographically link together a chain of transactions if one wanted to . This is also the reason many other projects that do not use proof of work are pivoting away from using the term Blockchain and using the term DLT instead. Some people promote "Block Chains" as this transformative technology that will magically improve everything in society which is completely misleading. Block chains , with or without proof or work , are inefficient "databases" by design. This inefficiency is a specific tradeoff to pay for censorship resistance. Therefore if something does not need censorship resistance than it most likely has no need for a blockchain. Fiat currency necessitates certain forms of censorship by design from regulators and they will not change this reality or give up control.

oak1337

If a crypto isn't **Asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. If it's any kind of BFT besides **Asynchronous** (pBFT, BFT, etc), that means you're accepting known risks like DDOS attacks and Malicious Firewalls, which exist. So if you're not ABFT, your network is making assumptions like "DDOS doesn't exist", which it does. This is a dumb assumption, you cannot make assumptions about timing on the Internet. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where your transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.

oak1337

If a crypto isn't **Asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. If it's any kind of BFT besides **Asynchronous** (pBFT, BFT, etc), that means you're accepting known risks like DDOS attacks and Malicious Firewalls, which exist. So if you're not ABFT, your network is making assumptions like "DDOS doesn't exist", which it does. This is a dumb assumption, you cannot make assumptions about timing on the Internet. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where your transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.

oak1337

If a crypto isn't **asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where you transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.

motiondevv

While our current stack is Web2-based, we are structuring our data models to later integrate with decentralized data infrastructures such as Convex, which provides a high-performance consensus lattice for managing immutable global state. This allows us to define and enforce ownership and sharing policies directly on-chain without sacrificing speed or user experience. Data Flow: \- Capture: Raw motion data is captured by the V.1 wireless sensors. \- Encryption: The data is immediately encrypted locally on the user's device (similar to end-to-end messaging, as we mentioned), which is our primary layer of privacy preservation. \- Storage: Encrypted data is temporarily stored in our back end using standard security policies. \- Tokenization/Blockchain/ DLT Use: The blockchain & other DLT solutios will be used to establish immutability and ownership of the data pod (the container of the wellness data) and to enforce user-defined data-sharing policies, not to verify the contents of the raw data itself. Trust Assumptions: We currently capture data from the sensors but do not verify its accuracy at the point of capture. Unlike in other sectors (e.g., drug development), there is no immediate monetary incentive for tampering with wellness data. This reduces the primary attack vector. We are evaluating decentralized execution layers like Convex that use lattice technology and Convergent Proof of Stake (CPoS) to maintain trusted, convergent state without the bottlenecks of blockchains. This would allow us to cryptographically enforce user-defined data policies (access, anonymization, consent) while remaining composable with future ZK modules. We don’t plan to build privacy or data-policy mechanisms from scratch. Instead, we aim to leverage proven decentralized infrastructures to handle the global consensus layer, while we focus on secure local capture and user experience. This phased path allows us to evolve from Web2 privacy to fully cryptographically-verified, decentralized trust.

ignominiousDog

Let me dumb this down for you. Bitcoin is always on the “net”, in that it is on the blockchain, which is a type of distributed ledger technology (DLT). What a cold wallet does is to remove the “custody” of your bitcoin from institutions. You hold the keys to your “vault”, but the vault only contains the keys to sign a transaction involving your bitcoin. Thats it. Your key is in the wallet. And no one knows the key unless you share it. Is there a possibility that at some point in the far future quantum computing may become powerful enough to crack your key? Yes, remotely. But on the same timescale they will hack the US, China and Russia nuclear arsenal, all private on shore and off shore accounts and your mom’s social security payments. Literally everything. You’ll know we are approaching “Q Day”, when Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, the Treasury and your mom suddenly implement radically different protocols. But they aren’t.

JWillCHS

The world is going to use DLTs that most likely won’t be public. A lot of the entities we know have been testing or using pilot programs on public infrastructure just to see how it works. Hedera has the AUS dollar being tested on its network but that’s just a pilot. No to mention Google is apart of their governing council but has its own DLT currently on a testnet that does the exact same thing as Hedera. And I bet the Google Cloud Universal Ledger isn’t going to have a digital asset that you can speculate with. Google just wants to tokenize real world asset, do cheaper global payments, and make capital markets easier for people. And they already have the customer base. Things like the stablecoin laws in the Genius Act and the Clarity Act gives enterprises the legal clarity to build their own infrastructure. And so when that happens we’ll see how important public blockchains really are.

HSuke

They're the same. ORV is just Nano's DLT version of PoS.

Longjumping-Row-6147

Been in this game since 2018. In July I made enough profit to sell and buy a house (not entirely but significant down payment money). I have made 12x then watched it go down to 2x, invested in things that didn’t move, sold too early. I’ve had a journey for sure.  To your questions above  1) still early in terms of tech and adoption but this cycle is very extended. People are talking about 250k bitcoin 15k eth. Not gonna happen. Cycles always peak in q4 of the post halving year and we are there NOW.  2) do not invest more than you are willing to lose unless you understand the trends of the market enough to take the risks. Don’t use leverage. Don’t answer sketchy dms. Honestly at this phase keep a portfolio 50/50 bitcoin and Ethereum until the end of the cycle.  3) see point above. The cycle at this point is extended. If you were getting btc years ago at 15k or eth in April at 1700 that’s a different story. Now your risk reward is very different (more risk less reward). I would not be throwing massive cash you can’t afford to lose at this stage in the game. Wait until after the next large crash.  4) again sure it can be profitable if you play it right. Buy in extreme fear sell in extreme greed. But after the big market crash about every 4 years. DCA in and out using a plan that works for you. If you are talking about using student loan money…again that’s a risk you have to be crystal clear about going into it.  5) Hustle? What are you gonna day trade? As a newbie? Please please don’t. Good luck even buying the dip and selling the rips if you are beginning. Seriously you need to passively dca in and dca out. Have a very specific plan of how much money you have to put in and when you need it scaled out.  Buy the dips and look at the fear and greed index. Over a long time buying in extreme fear and selling in extreme greeed is a consistent way to make profit (not guaranteed). It also takes balls and easier said than done to buy when everything is dying and sell when everyone says “btc to a million dollars” 6) honestly - fucking philosophy for me. Economics. I started in crypto and did a major in philosophy and politics now I work in decentralized trust systems and verifiable credential development for sustainability using DLT technology.  Resources: I find that ChatGPT obvisoukyncan sometimes tell you what you want to hear but if you slam it with current data like rsi, macd, fear and greed index, get it to pull cycleROI and help you build a strategy that fits your risk tolerance. Also intothecryptoverse YouTube channel is the only one I have ever found real and helpful. Ben cowen is an ex nuclear physicist and very conservative. He has great strategies no hype no stupid both production videos just raw data with some advice of how to navigate it.   The one thing I would suggest as well: things are hot right now the cycle may be peaking with an average 80% correction. This is a motto that worked for me and stuck with me forever: “bull markets make people money; bear markets make people rich”. If you are serious about this - buy btc and eth AFTER the massive crash that always comes and keep stacking for the 3 years PRIOR to whatever blow off top happens. Good luck. 

kryptoniteali

Thats why I am supporting DLTs that are building infrastructure and solutions for Real World problems. One important thing that blochchain should solve is TRUST issues. Decentralization and transparency are the main use case of DLT.

jekpopulous2

Maybe... but right now the only infrastructure that I actually see banks building on are Ethereum and Chainlink. Who knows though? Maybe eventually a major institution will start building on XRP or HBAR or some other DLT. Right now all the banks are building on rollups though.

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Capital_Strategy_371

Crypto’s value is actually in DLT and the blockchain. Accounting, law enforcement, IRS, business benefit from the traceability and the audit trail as well as the additional data that can be stored on the chain. The ability to bypass fees and licensing may or may not occur since blockchain “currency” can’t effectively be used as money, yet. Most are looking at it wrong. It’s not digital gold. It will be currency, eventually.

Capital_Strategy_371

Crypto’s value is actually in DLT and the blockchain. Accounting, law enforcement, IRS, business benefit from the traceability and the audit trail as well as the additional data that can be stored on the chain. The ability to bypass fees and licensing may or may not occur since blockchain “currency” can’t effectively be used as money, yet. Most are looking at it wrong. It’s not digital gold. It will be currency, eventually.

Purplenastie

Quant QNT Do your own research. Quant Network (QNT) presents a strong investment case by positioning itself as the enterprise-grade "interoperability layer" for the global financial system, solving the critical problem of connecting diverse blockchains and legacy networks via its Overledger technology. The value of the fixed-supply QNT token is directly tied to this adoption, as it is required by organizations for annual licensing and usage fees. The project's credibility is enhanced by its focus on regulation and a leadership team that includes CEO and Founder Gilbert Verdian, a recognized cybersecurity and DLT standards expert who established the Blockchain ISO Standard TC307. Key projects and partners, such as a collaboration with the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and the Bank of England on Project Rosalind (a CBDC initiative), and partnerships with firms like Oracle and UST, suggest a pathway to major institutional adoption and long-term utility. ​

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CaptainRelevant

SWIFT has been saying they would use their own blockchain for a while now. As early as January, 2017 they announced success with their distributed ledger technology (DLT) as part of their Global Payments Innovation (GPI) initiative.

CaptainRelevant

SWIFT has been saying they would use their own blockchain for a while now. As early as January, 20-7 they announced success with their distributed ledger technology (DLT) as part of their Global Payments Innovation (GPI) initiative.

Heypisshands

It is now seen as a store of value to many and it might still be seen this way long into the future. In the near future, quantum attacks could force alot of global databases to run on a DLT, there are other cryptos that could faciitate this. The other cryptos would need to be really secure and would also need to be exceptionally efficient. Only one crypto is both the most secure (aBFT, SHA384) and at the same time it is the most effiicient, 1 billion transactions uses only 3000kwh. As the digital world evolves there could be a few cryptos that succeed for a long time.

SunDreamShineDay

Sure those are some words, and none of those words include the words Ripple, XRPL or XRP Regarding qualified, how about you read some words that do include Ripple, XRPL and XRP from some who have qualifications, the most qualified in the world. >Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. Mitchnick & Athey’s paper about XRP: A FUNDAMENTAL VALUATION FRAMEWORK FOR CRYPTOASSETS https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf Both Mitchnick and Athey created four models, the point of any model, not just financial ones, allows for up to date current variables to be entered into the model for an outcome that is relevant to an outcome based on the variables entered. Valhill Capital used the Mitchnick/Athey models for their published paper. >Vahil Capitol’s paper: A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DETERMINE THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF XRP https://cdnc.heyzine.com/flip-book/pdf/fbf65f66ad2d25db0d5056db4fc543f7be84c2a1.pdf

SunDreamShineDay

>7-10 bucks best case scenario Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, man >Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. >Mitchnick & Athey’s paper on XRP: A FUNDAMENTAL VALUATION FRAMEWORK FOR CRYPTOASSETS https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf Both Mitchnick and Athey created four models, the point of any model, not just financial ones, allows for current variables to be entered into the model for an outcome that is relevant to an outcome based on the current variables entered. Valhill Capital used the Mitchnick/Athey models for their published paper. >Vahil Capitol’s paper: A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DETERMINE THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF XRP https://cdnc.heyzine.com/flip-book/pdf/fbf65f66ad2d25db0d5056db4fc543f7be84c2a1.pdf

Emotional-Gap-3234

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) works with various blockchains, including public, permissionless blockchains like Bitcoin and Ethereum for data analysis in projects like Project Atlas, and private DLT-based ledgers for projects like mBridge and Project Agorá, which use tokenized bank deposits and wholesale CBDCs to enhance international payments and policy implementation. The BIS also investigates stablecoins, which are often issued on private blockchains like Ethereum and Tron, for their role in crypto flows and potential financial crime risks. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] Public, Permissionless Blockchains [3, 7] • Bitcoin and Ethereum: The BIS uses data from these public blockchains, such as Bitcoin (BTC) and Ether (ETH), to track cross-border flows of cryptoassets and analyze Decentralized Finance (DeFi) protocols. • Project Atlas: This project, in collaboration with European central banks, uses data from public blockchains to monitor cryptocurrency markets and DeFi, aiming to provide economic insights. Private, Permissioned Blockchains & DLTs [1, 8, 9] • mBridge Ledger: For its mBridge project, the BIS developed a platform using a new blockchain called the mBridge Ledger to enable real-time, cross-border payments using wholesale CBDCs. [1, 8] • Tokenized Assets and CBDCs: Project Agorá, a collaboration with several central banks, explores integrating tokenized commercial bank deposits with tokenized wholesale central bank money on a unified, private ledger to enhance international payments. [2] • Stablecoins: While not a single blockchain, stablecoins like Tether (USDT) and USD Coin (USDC) are often issued via smart contracts on private blockchains such as Ethereum and Tron. The BIS uses data on these to study their cross-border flows and potential uses in illicit finance. [4, 5, 6, 7] Key BIS Initiatives and Their Blockchain Use • Project Atlas: Tracks on-chain and off-chain data from public blockchains like Bitcoin and Ether for macroeconomic analysis. [3] • mBridge: A project that evolved from a pilot to a minimum viable product (MVP) on a private mBridge Ledger for wholesale CBDC payments. [1, 8] • Project Agorá: Aims to build a public-private core financial platform for tokenized deposits and wholesale central bank money, likely using private ledger technology. [2] • Pyxtrial: A project to monitor stablecoins, investigating tools to help supervisors and regulators build frameworks based on integrated data, potentially involving private ledgers. [10] AI responses may include mistakes. [1] https://www.ledgerinsights.com/bis-hands-over-mbridge-cbdc-payment-system-after-brics-controversy/[2] https://www.regulationtomorrow.com/eu/bis-and-central-banks-announce-plans-for-tokenisation-project/[3] https://cointelegraph.com/news/bis-eu-central-banks-building-data-platform-to-track-crypto-defi-flows[4] https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2025/08/247747-bis-shares-new-approach-for-leveraging-blockchains-immutability-and-transparency-for-aml-compliance/[5] https://www.bis.org/publ/arpdf/ar2025e3.htm[6] https://www.bis.org/publ/work1265.pdf[7] https://www.bis.org/publ/work1265.htm[8] https://www.bis.org/about/bisih/topics/cbdc/mcbdc_bridge.htm[9] https://cardanofoundation.org/blog/challenging-the-bis-conclusions-on-permissionless-systems[10] https://www.bis.org/about/bisih/about.htm Not all images can be exported from Search.

Heypisshands

Learn what is DLT. How DLT will benefit the world. Then figure out which DLT is the most secure, the most efficient, as they should dominate.

HSuke

I took blockchain/DLT courses at a top university, which was taught by a Bitcoin Core maintainer (there are only ~5 of them), and have been studying DLTs for the past decade.

East-Day-7888

Because blockchain is a 3 decade old technology and other types of DLT exist. And I dont invest in the past, I invest in the future. Just because regulations are finally catching up on all DLT, doesn't mean blockchain is going to be what the future and web3 operate on. The hashgraph DAG is orders of magnitude better than any blockchain in existence. Saying blockchain or hashgraph is like saying DvD vs. Digital encoded media like streaming or downloading. Yea, both will show you a movie. But they are not even close to playing the same game. Hbar is infinitely scaleable, architecturally immune to front running. Has absolutely finiality at the mathematically highest possible standard of abft, at 3-5 seconds, and it does it to where use cases that need to remain private can operate their own shard and remain within their own regulations. Think if any tech problem any block chain has it, and hbar has already solved it. There is not a trilemma to solve on hashgraphs, it doesnt one, there is not a reconciliation problem on hbar, its not a tower of blocks. There is not a scalability problem. Shards can operate independently and privately and still be reconciled flawlessly. I could keep going, but instead of listing features, maybe it might need better to ask you what got you into crypto.

lorenzolamaslover

Lol who talks like that?? You are definitely an engagement bot since you refer to him as DLT Jesus with the world on his shoulders. He is chief scientist of Hashgraph, not HBAR, nor Hedera, nor Hedera Hashgraph, nor HBAR Foundation, nor Hashgraph Association, nor Hedera Governing Council. Do you even know the various organizations that you shill for?

Aconyminomicon

HBAR reaches consensus the fastest of all tokens and has the best security (aBFT) of all tokens. It is unique that is uses Hashgraph DLT instead of a Blockchain, and that is what makes it unique.

HSuke

That's an odd comparison no one asked for. You're comparing to Bitcoin, a 7 TPS blockchain notorious for having worst throughput of any DLT and for having weak spam resistance that can only be fought off with high fees. It's not going to be a real contest. Bitcoin fees jumped up to $500/Tx when Inscriptions/Ordinals were popular. It doesn't have enough throughput to scale or fight off spam. And Bitcoin's SegWit encourages spam. I would focus more on explaining and breaking down why Nano's spam and PoW model are efficient and secure. You didn't explain it in a way a layman could understand.

ChampsUpset

Honestly, Google summarizes it better than I ever could: XRP vs. HBAR: A comparison XRP and Hedera (HBAR) are both prominent cryptocurrencies utilizing unique technologies and aiming to solve different problems in the crypto space. Here's a breakdown of their key features and distinctions: 1. Underlying technology XRP Ledger: A permissionless, open-source blockchain designed specifically for payments. It uses a unique consensus algorithm known as the Ripple Protocol Consensus Algorithm (RPCA). Hedera Hashgraph: Employs a revolutionary distributed ledger technology (DLT) called Hashgraph. This technology, based on Directed Acyclic Graphs (DAGs) rather than a linear blockchain, utilizes a unique gossip protocol and virtual voting for achieving consensus, according to Hedera. 2. Speed and scalability XRP Ledger: Processes around 1,500 transactions per second (TPS) and settles transactions in 3-5 seconds. Hedera Hashgraph: Can handle up to 10,000 TPS, achieving transaction finality in 3-5 seconds. 3. Transaction fees XRP Ledger: Features exceptionally low transaction fees, typically around 0.00001 XRP per transaction. Hedera Hashgraph: Also boasts very low fees, with a fixed fee of $0.001 per transaction, paid in HBAR. 4. Use cases XRP: Primarily focuses on cross-border payments and remittance services, enabling faster and cheaper international money transfers for financial institutions. Hedera: Supports a wider range of applications, including decentralized finance (DeFi), identity management, tokenization, supply chain management, and more, according to Coinrule. 5. Governance XRP Ledger: Relies on a Unique Node List (UNL) of validators, selected and managed by Ripple Labs, leading to a degree of centralization. Hedera Hashgraph: Governed by a council of up to 39 diverse organizations spanning various industries, aiming for a more decentralized and stable network management, according to CoinMarketCap. 6. Security XRP Ledger: Employs a robust consensus mechanism designed to resist common attack vectors, relying on the trust of vetted validators. Hedera Hashgraph: Leverages its Hashgraph algorithm to achieve asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance (aBFT), which ensures high security even if some nodes are compromised. 7. Staking XRP: Does not support traditional staking. However, some platforms offer interest-bearing accounts for depositing XRP. Hedera: Operates on a Proof-of-Stake (PoS) network, allowing HBAR holders to stake their tokens to secure the network and earn rewards, according to CoinMarketCap. 8. Energy efficiency XRP: Issued its entire supply at launch and doesn't rely on mining, resulting in minimal energy consumption. Hedera: Minimizes computational processes with its DAG technology, making it extremely energy-efficient, using only about 0.00017 kWh per transaction. Conclusion Both XRP and Hedera offer efficient and promising solutions in the world of distributed ledger technologies, but with different focuses and approaches. XRP excels in its niche of high-speed, low-cost cross-border payments for financial institutions, with deep integration into traditional financial systems. Hedera provides a more versatile platform for a broader range of enterprise-level decentralized applications, driven by its unique Hashgraph technology and diversified governance model. Ultimately, the choice between them depends on your specific goals and priorities, whether it's optimizing payments or building scalable and secure dApps.

JustStopppingBye

Yes, a DLT can technically handle both messaging and settlement, but that doesn’t magically solve the complexities of global finance. Also, if it were to magically replace it, you would need 11,500 banks on board with it which wont happen. You first need to understand *why* Swift exists in the first place as blockchain is an extension of the financial system not a replacement. [https://x.com/DrakeLinked/status/1943465406938910958](https://x.com/DrakeLinked/status/1943465406938910958) People here act like Swift hasnt been actively researching blockchain and smart contracts since at least 2015. They will join the revolution in 2025. [https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/live-trials-digital-asset-transactions-swift-start-2025](https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/live-trials-digital-asset-transactions-swift-start-2025)

arpbsr

TLDR Here’s a structured summary of the article **“Central Bank drops blockchain for next phase of Drex”**: # 🔁 Strategic Shift in Brazil’s Drex Project * **DLT Abandoned**: Brazil’s Central Bank will no longer use distributed ledger technology (Hyperledger Besu) due to scalability and privacy concerns. * **Lien Reconciliation Focus**: New priority is building a lien reconciliation system to enable collateralized lending, aiming for a 2026 release. * **Dual Timeline Approach**: Short-term implementation will exclude decentralized networks; long-term development may revisit DLT when mature. # 🔒 Privacy & Technology Challenges * **DLT Privacy Tools Inadequate**: Multiple solutions were tested but failed to meet programmability and security standards. * **Hyperledger Fabric Considered**: Suggested as a better alternative due to higher scalability and existing use in government systems. # 💸 Drex & Tokenization * **Reduced Scope**: Initial plans for programmable money and peer-to-peer finance have been scaled down. * **Private Sector Continuity**: Firms like Foxbit and BTG Pactual support Drex’s pragmatic shift but continue tokenization efforts independently. # 🏦 Integration & Future Plans * **Pix Integration**: Asset transfers may leverage Brazil’s Pix system in later phases. * **Phase 3 Expected Soon**: Focus will shift to collateralized lending, though no exact timeline is confirmed. * **Report Due**: A comprehensive review of phase two is anticipated by October 2025. # ⚖️ Political and Market Reactions * **Political Tensions**: U.S. opposition to CBDCs stirred debate in Brazil, drawing criticism. * **Industry Feedback**: Stakeholders support the change as practical, and remain optimistic about Drex’s long-term evolution

SunDreamShineDay

Who is they because Robert Mitchnick who is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock is a former Ripple employee and co-authored and published a paper with Susan Athey about BTC and XRP, the guy believes in XRP and has laid out a paper with some weight to it. >A Fundamental Valuation Framework For Cryptoassets - by Robert Mitchnick and Susan Athey Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. I have included two sites where the paper can be found. A worthy read. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVucpmKVCQXQGwLQYMgDAQLT6MbubX33/view https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf

SunDreamShineDay

>BlackRock likely to file for Spot XRP ETF I like that I can pull out of my wallet a $1 bill, a $5 bill, a $10, $20, $50 or a $100 bill and see the signature of a board member of Ripple. I like that the XRPL was the first blockchain that was not a BTC clone. I like that the XRPL offered the first crypto decentralized exchange. I like that Robert Mitchnick who is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock is a former Ripple employee and co-authored and published a paper with Susan Athey about BTC and XRP. >A Fundamental Valuation Framework For Cryptoassets - by Robert Mitchnick and Susan Athey Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. I have included two sites where the paper can be found. A worthy read. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVucpmKVCQXQGwLQYMgDAQLT6MbubX33/view https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf

ThriceHawk

Absolutely not. ISO20022 is not replacing SWIFT whatsoever... SWIFT has been the one instrumental in promoting and facilitating its adoption for their 11,500 financial institutions/banks. They began migrating to it for cross border payment messages in 2022 and have had a phased approach to go live in November of this year. RippleNet is simply compliant with ISO20022, just like XLM, ADA, ALGO, HBAR, QNT, IOTA, XDC, and..... Chainlink. But Chainlink is by far the most involved in it. They are partnered with SWIFT and have been working with them for years now, rolling through a PoC and live trials to help SWIFT facilitate DLT based cross-border payments for all of their member institutions. Banks will be able to create their own stablecoins (like JP Morgan is doing, working with Chainlink as well), and they'll be able to integrate with other blockchains using SWIFT's standards and Chainlink's CCIP for interoperability. Eliminating the need for intermediaries like Ripple. But Ripple will still be useful for the smaller banks/financial institutions, they just will have competition for it and won't attract the large banks who can create their own on Ethereum, etc.

SunDreamShineDay

I like that I don’t know Satoshi. I like that I can pull out of my wallet a $1 bill, a $5 bill, a $10, $20, $50 or a $100 bill and see the signature of a board member of Ripple. I like that Bitcoin blockchain was the first. I like that the XRPL was the first blockchain that was not a a BTC clone I like that Robert Mitchnick who is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock is a former Ripple employee and co-authored and published a paper with Susan Athey about BTC and XRP. >A Fundamental Valuation Framework For Cryptoassets - by Robert Mitchnick and Susan Athey Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. I have included two sites where the paper can be found. A worthy read. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVucpmKVCQXQGwLQYMgDAQLT6MbubX33/view https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf

SunDreamShineDay

>Oct22-25th xrp/ripple has theur vegas swell meeting and has blackrock head board of their digital finance there Robert Mitchnick is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock and is a former Ripple employee, along with Susan Athey they published a paper on XRP. >A Fundamental Valuation Framework For Cryptoassets - by Robert Mitchnick and Susan Athey Robert Mitchnick Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock >Robert Mitchnick serves as the Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock. He is a member of the Corp Exec-COO Executive team. Rob is responsible for driving BlackRock’s digital assets strategy, including working with internal business units to develop and execute on strategic initiatives involving distributed ledger technology (“DLT”) and digital assets. >Prior to joining BlackRock, Robbie spent time at CPP Investment Board in Public Markets and Private Investments and at Ripple. During his time at Ripple, Robbie co-authored ‘A Fundamental Valuation Framework for Cryptoassets’ along with John Bates Clark medal winner Susan Athey. Susan Athey >Susan is an American economist. She is the Economics of Technology Professor in the School of Humanities and Sciences at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining Stanford, she has been a professor at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT) >Susan is the first female winner of the John Bates Clark Medal. She served as the consulting chief economist for Microsoft for six years, and was a consulting researcher to Microsoft Research. She is currently on the boards of Expedia, Lending Club, Rover, Turo, Ripple, and non-profit Innovations for Poverty Action. She also serves as the senior fellow at Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. She is an associate director for the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence and the director of Golub Capital Social Impact Lab. I have included two sites where the paper can be found. A worthy read. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVucpmKVCQXQGwLQYMgDAQLT6MbubX33/view https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/fundamental-valuation-framework-for-cryptoassets/A+Fundamental+Valuation+Framework+for+Cryptoassets_June+2018.pdf

HSuke

I don't care about investing in crypto or price speculation. Technology-wise, Hedera is solid. It's arguably the most secure DLT due to the exception-high cost of attack. Probably around 100x more expensive than the cost of attacking Bitcoin and 20x more expensive than the cost of attacking Ethereum L1.

CyanDew

idk. i feel like u/the_rodent_incident had some good intel, but the take on DLT and blockchain as a whole is very shortsighted. Bitcoin is money regardless of the block size limitation. blockchain is the new foundation for our physical infrastructure. DeFi will bring the financial sector to those who don’t have access to traditional centralized banking. worth investing into things like Ripple, Cosmos, Quant, Ondo, Stellar, Stronghold, Zebec, Metallicus for long term prospects.

koopdi

The hashgraph is a remarkable advancement in DLT.

rsa121717

SEC v Ripple is just a part of a whole show the government is putting on, and it started with that DLT patent from the 80s/90s. Government is behind BTC and XRP, theres a whole agenda. A few directions you can go from there, but its a thought I like to toy with

HSuke

This is using Goldman Sachs Digital Asset Platform (GS DAP), which uses a permissioned private DLT.

ClassicReal123

DLT*

ClassicReal123

Yep it's a scam. BlockDAG is a DLT invented by Kaspa team.

East-Day-7888

Lmao, i have been following DLT for 4 years. Only since the last 2 months has anyone come around to hbar and thats because utility does not care about retail sentiment. Until the last two month hbar was The Mosr Hated Crypto on the market, as it Flys a flag in the face of "cyber punk sovereign nation currency" ideals. To this day its still pegged a corpo coin. But guess what retail cares more about making money and its happening with or without cypherpunks

Longjumping-Bonus723

Oh boy. There are many reports by banks and other relevant institutions and researchers that say that the value of DLT is in permissioned public chains like HBAR. Everything else can be used by community nerds for play or for anonymous robin hood dreams but none of them hold any value to the real world of finance or the general economy. That's the real world. That's why projects like HBAR went from #55 in marketcap to TOP20

HSuke

Thanks for the insightful information. Sometimes I feel like we need a degree for blockchain/DLT etymology to decipher some of these. 2 minor points I'd like to add: * There's a chance Ethereum validators' vote for increasing the block gas limit from 36M to 45M or 60M will reach thr necessary 50% threshold by the time of Fusaka's release. This will greatly increase throughout. * EOF might no longer be important if Ethereum moves to RISC-V architecture * There are also discussions to decrease block time from 12s to 3-6s

CunningStunt_1

I agree with you principle. But what we are all interested in, is how do we profit from this? It has been clear for years now, that every bank/business/institution will run its own chain. So holding a layer 1 or 2 gas token is stupid. The only way i can see, is buying infrastructure that is already the standard. That tradfi is already using. That has a product that is not easily replacable, such as a blockchain/DLT.

OkCantaloupe4959

Settlement is the most replaceable part of the tech stat. It could have been absolutely any blockchain/DLT solution. Same tech being used here by JP Morgan. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chainlink-kinexys-by-jp-morgan-and-ondo-finance-team-up-to-bring-bank-payment-rails-to-tokenized-asset-markets-302455268.html

BlackjointnerD

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/annex/ecb.exploratoryworknewtechnologies202506_annex02.cs.pdf?93d7398bed92845d9685a9d6ee83fa66 Axiology DLT --> private chain version of XRPL that can connect to public chain They are partnered with ECB. PDF explains all framework and how the protocol works

CunningStunt_1

Forest for the trees. Settlement is a commodity. Which is cheap and easily replacable. There are 1000's of DLT/blockchain/database based products which do what you claim is unique. >fragmented systems that weren’t designed for real time or 24/7 use. Agreed. How do you link those existing systems? Its sure as shit isn't a blockchain. They can't reliably link between existing web2 infrastructure. You can also guarantee that entire banking system in the western world isn't going to all change to a singluar system. Most of these FI operate on 50 years of technical debt based on fucking COBOL. I made a post of that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1lfacia/you_dont_replace_the_financial_system_you_improve/) >it’s about who can actually move value under those compliance rules, not just signal them Wrong. Moving value is easy. Automating the compliance systems. Solving fragmentation is the golden goose.

Prestigious-Slide-73

ChatGPT but I think it’s fairly accurate. XRP (Ripple): The crypto equivalent of a messy court case. It’s like the divorced dad of your portfolio — promises it’s turning things around, but it’s been in litigation longer than “The Winds of Winter” has been in draft. Every time XRP pumps, someone shouts “ISO 20022!” like it’s a magic spell. It’s not. ZEBEC: Streaming payments on Solana? Great in theory — if Solana could stay online long enough. Zebec sounds like the name of a budget sci-fi villain, and right now its token price is about as scary as a balloon animal. ONDO: Tokenized real-world assets sound sexy until you realise you’re basically trying to make TradFi cool. It’s like slapping NFTs on a filing cabinet and calling it DeFi. You’re betting on regulators to be innovative. Bold. Hedera (HBAR): Enterprise-friendly DLT that’s “governed by giants” like Google and IBM… who all forgot they were on the council. Feels like the guy in your friend group who keeps name-dropping, but no one can remember what he actually does. Stellar (XLM): Built for cross-border payments — just like XRP. Because who doesn’t love a redundant token in the same portfolio? If XRP is the divorced dad, XLM is the quiet sibling who works at a nonprofit and always gets overlooked. Has been “about to moon” since 2017. Algorand (ALGO): Developed by an MIT professor, and it still can’t get invited to the cool kids’ table. It’s efficient, green, and utterly ignored. If crypto had a high school yearbook, ALGO would be voted “Most likely to have great tech that no one uses.” Cardano (ADA): Slow, academic, and constantly “about to launch smart contracts.” ADA is the PhD student who’s been ABD (“all but done”) for five years. Fans treat Charles Hoskinson like a tech messiah, but he’s really just crypto’s Tolkien — detailed worldbuilding, zero delivery. XCN (Chain): Wait, this one got rebranded like three times, right? Chain is trying so hard to be taken seriously it forgot to bring actual utility. You know it’s bad when your coin chart looks like a ski slope. JASMY: The meme token pretending it’s not a meme. Japanese IoT data rights token? Cool story. Except it trades like someone spilled Pepsi on a Dogecoin fork. Your investment thesis here is pure hopium and vibes. ⸻ Final verdict: This portfolio is like a crypto museum — filled with relics from the “next big thing” era. It screams, “I bought the narrative, not the chart.” You’ve got enterprise tokens no one uses, ISO-compliant has-beens, and enough dead weight to sink a floaty in a kiddie pool. Roast rating: 8.7/10 Hold tight - At least you’re diversified across underperformers — that’s… something.

Common_Raisin_7753

100% The only future for crypto is DLT like Hedera

OkCantaloupe4959

TPS is a meme. Why does TPS matter when every large vol institution can spin up their own DLT Linux foundation chain in a matter of hours? TPS stopped mattering when every bank will run it's own chain. Catch up.

Aconyminomicon

You are in the wrong community. There are some growing legit developer environments for networks like Hedera or any real world asset tokenization around smart contracts. I don't think there is a better use for DLT so far.

Background_Army_2637

Can't agree more. Decentralized AI is the future. However, it's against big tech's interest to decentralized their AI Models, their data centers for obvious reasons... But that doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. Just like when DLT and bitcoin came out, it's against traditional finance's interest and government's interestm but it didn't stop and it wouldn't stop. Same for DeAI, which can't be stopped and won't be stopped. Follow my newsletter for daily AI &Crypto tech business news if interested! [https://tea2025.substack.com/](https://tea2025.substack.com/)

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

new Hedera council member joined - Arrow Electronics, the largest electronics distributor in the U.S. https://news.fiveyearsout.com/news-releases/news-details/2025/Arrow-Electronics-Joins-Hedera-Council-to-Advance-Supply-Chain-Solutions/default.aspx Arrow is exploring the development of a DLT-based supply chain use case built on the Hedera network. This initiative will focus on enabling real-time visibility into the movement of goods across complex, multi-party supply chains, facilitating automated compliance checks and enhancing predictive logistics capabilities for global manufacturing and distribution systems. More Hedera news: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/21shares-launches-21shares-hedera-etp-070000496.html?guccounter=1 https://np.reddit.com/r/Hedera/comments/1l3yhd5/hbar_listed_on_okx/ https://x.com/hederafndn/status/1928087498816700458?s=46&t=KhiGxrO00W2s7i6lUQkhQg https://verra.org/verra-and-hedera-to-accelerate-digital-transformation-of-carbon-markets/ Just a regular week in Hedera

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

new Hedera council member joined - Arrow Electronics, the largest electronics distributor in the U.S. https://news.fiveyearsout.com/news-releases/news-details/2025/Arrow-Electronics-Joins-Hedera-Council-to-Advance-Supply-Chain-Solutions/default.aspx >Arrow is exploring the development of a DLT-based supply chain use case built on the Hedera network. This initiative will focus on enabling real-time visibility into the movement of goods across complex, multi-party supply chains, facilitating automated compliance checks and enhancing predictive logistics capabilities for global manufacturing and distribution systems. More Hedera news: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/21shares-launches-21shares-hedera-etp-070000496.html?guccounter=1

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Arrow Electronics has joined the Hedera Council to enhance global supply chain operations using distributed ledger technology (DLT). As a Fortune 150 company, Arrow will operate a network node and contribute to Hedera's decentralized governance. The initiative aims to improve supply chain transparency, compliance, and logistics intelligence. Hedera's Hashgraph technology offers high transaction throughput, fixed fees, and carbon-negative architecture, aligning with Arrow's ESG goals and digital strategy for real-time supply chain visibility. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Impressive_Pilot8415

HBAR.. why.. the preferred DLT of Fortune 500 companies.. just watch Hedera will dominate the AI space.. for those that know Leemon’s PHD was in AI :🤖

oak1337

HBAR has a centralized entity to govern (the Governing Council), which is a decentralized group of 39 members, each with one equal vote. Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IIT Madras - University) vote is equal to Google's vote on all matters of governance. Equal, decentralized, different sectors, different countries, different industries, all have one equal vote. Hedera is very different than Ripple. Ripple can't scale, they have trash security, and the large majority of "Ripple use cases" will not use XRP. Let's both agree that Ripple is trash and move on. Hedera is not insecure, in fact, it has the BEST mathematically possible security (aBFT). No other chain comes close to Hedera's security actually, including ETH. Hedera is superior. Undisputed champion of security, not likely to be beaten for the next 100+ years. "No serious institution is going to use a corporate Blockchain" -- do you hear yourself? 😂 ETH served it's purpose. Thank you ETH, for basically standardizing EVM Smart Contract language. But step aside, the final evolution of DLT has arrived, and it's name is Hedera Hashgraph.

Substantial_Fun3062

Well to be honest I had no idea there were that many private blockchains by banks. Something I will have to look into and adjust my outlook apparently. I still believe DLT tech is the future of anything tokenized. I would imagine smaller banks and credit unions wouldn't use their own but I could be wrong. Hbar is already tokenizing the Nairobi stock exchange in Kenya, I know its a small step but it still means something as far as adoption goes. There are also some really good projects being developed leveraging hederas tech. EQTY labs, neuron, dovu. I suppose anything could happen, but in my opinion DLT has the best chance of revolutionizing the way we do finance.

HSuke

You should really read Overledger developer documentation because it is so different from what you're describing. **Quant Overledger is not an L2 or anything like it.** A canonical L2 rollup would need to post rollup data to a data availability layer across a rollup bridge. Overledger does not do that. It's just API software that interacts with exist node software across ~6 different public DLTs. **In contrast, Quant Overledger is just middleware that connects to various DLT node software that can be run by a single centralized enterprise/entity (e.g. the customer). It doesn't need a separate 3rd-party bridge because IT IS the centralized bridge.** This is similar to solutions already provided by other popular node software companies like QuickNode, Alchemy, MultiChain, Chainlink, Consensys, and Chainstack. Those companies have actual products and revenue streams, and don't need a token like QNT to run. I suspect most of Quant's customers (like Oracle and banks) are going to be using a centralized DLT like Hyperledger Besu or Hyperledger Fabric, and then using Overledger as a bridge to connect crosschain to other DLTs.

Aconyminomicon

There is nothing wrong with that. All I am really saying is if you are building smart contracts, wouldn't you want to use the best? Right now, Hedera Consensus is being utilized by SpaceX, Nvidia chips, Decentralized physical infrastructure (DePin) like Neuron, Carbon credit market/ supply chain OS named Dovu, and also a killer borrow lend platform, DEX, and all that. Dovu migrated from etherum to Hedera and was recently awarded 2 different billion dollar contracts in the last month. The price of Dovu tokens shows that, it is up 175% in the last month and still climbing because it is something innovated, and all through Hedera. Neuron will be another big player. Also WiseKey and SealSQ are utilizing Hedera as well, and they are also big players. Most people don't even talk about Hedera because they don't want to admit that there is a DLT out there being used by real business that is not a blockchain. And there is good reason that companies are using Hedera, partnering with Hedera. And the developer community is very helpful and not at all some centralized network masquerading and decentralized.

Aconyminomicon

There are currently AI agents on Hedera for fast and inexpensive SC calls that already scale. They use a Hashgraph DLT which is far superior to any blockchain or PoS. They have aBFT security which is the best of any decentralized network. And they have a developer playground to do every thing you mentioned but faster and less expensive. There are no need for any ZK roll ups because it already scales. You can create smart contracts without even knowing how to code, and implement AI agents to automate the calls. The security is far superior to kaspa and if you look into the Hedera ecosystem, there are several gems utilizing the network that have gone up 200% in value in the last month due to real world adoption. TL:DR Hedera is a better network for smart contracts. They are EVM compatible, use AI Agents, and don't need any ZK rollups because it already scales. Plus way less expensive and better security than any other network. If I am wrong please inform me because I am doing erc721 and erc1155 on Hedera because they have everything set to go from the start, ready to scale, with the best security, and the lowest fees, and AI running the SC's. [https://dev.portal.hedera.com/playground](https://dev.portal.hedera.com/playground)

BeginningCarry851

Bitcoin is a shit coin. What's its use case? Can't scale, environmentally fucked, expensive, clunky. Just a store of value. Dinosaur. ISO tokens XRP, XDC, HBar, XLM, Qnt. DLT is the new infrastructure to a new financial System with Quant Network"s Overledger, the programmable interface which will power the entire Web 2 to Web 3 space including the Finternet.

HSuke

I swear people keep forgetting how Bitcoin reorged (a rollback) 30+ blocks twice (in 2010 and 2013) to fix similar-level catastrophes. No, it's not a PoS issue. Most PoS blockchains do not allow rollbacks, and neither can SUI. In order to rolback, they would need to hard fork the DLT.

00roast00

I think so. People have become wise to getting scammed by meme coins and coins that really have nothing of value to add. Bitcoin is the digital equivalent of gold, but tokens like Hedera will be the future of the DLT market which I believe will rocket in the coming years.

OkAwareness6282

Can you explain what real utility eth has compared to the DLT coins ? What areas is it better meaning speed , cost of TPS, energy consumption per transactions, time to finality of a transaction. What ways is it more secure that others aren’t?

East-Day-7888

Well I don't pack um with garbage that's for sure. And the reason you hear hbar and chainlink so much is because dtcc and swift have already made announcements/have pending pattents, For the two DLT. So yea, pretty much the entire global trade network its pretty big news.

Dehavilland52

Hbar - nothing even close to it in the DLT space!

MinimalGravitas

> they stopped using it because DLT is a meme. ETH network is not exempt from this That's an interesting claim, but then how do you explain: - Visa's 'Real World Asset' tokenization platform; - Blackrock's tokenized securities platform; - UBS's tokenized investment platform; - Wisdom Tree's RWA tokenization platform; - Deutsche Bank's L2; - Sony/Samsung's L2; - Paypal's stablecoin business payment system; etc etc... Why would those companies build their financial applications on 'a meme'?

Tethered9

[Atma.io](http://Atma.io) did not stop using Hedera because they are a shitty network, they stopped using it because DLT is a meme. ETH network is not exempt from this, but they would never know it, because they never had a [Atma.io](http://Atma.io) use to begin with 😂