MEV

Hour_Bill_578

RPC for privacy so easy to get shielded from MEV attack!

inShambles3749

Don't use MEV when doing money stuff. Unless it's blue then snort away

RefrigeratorLow1259

Correct, Object based and UTXO models, unlike account based don't grant approvals for drains and MEV's.

poelzi

That is why I'm using sui for defi only. Not seen a MEV attack yet and there are plans to use forward encryption to make it impossible.

lturtsamuel

What the hack does that have to do with MEV? It's just an exploited misbehavior. You approve large amount to a contract which can be triggered by anyone. That's just like you leave money on the road and someone took it. The bot is fast to spot that money on the road and took it, that's all. Nothing MEV is involved.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase lost $300,000 in fees to an MEV bot due to a misstep involving the 0xProject swapper smart contract. The contract, being permissionless, allowed the bot to exploit token approvals initiated by Coinbase. The incident, which did not affect customer funds, was attributed to changes in a corporate DEX wallet. Coinbase has since revoked token allowances and moved funds to a new wallet. Critics highlighted the error as concerning, especially given Coinbase's recent challenges, including a reported cyberattack and downtime issues. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

GinormousHippo458

The issue with a fast Blockchain is i that it grows in capacity so fast that decentralization becomes insufficient and even impossible! Just look at "slow" ETH; very few full archive/chain nodes exist. And most of the usable nodes are hosted on AWS by Infura and Consensys. 😬. And worse, their block creation and subsidy rewards are monopolized and MEV harvested by the ETH whales through proof of stake. Where Vitalik is chair of the ETH central bank.

MaximumStudent1839

What has happened is that people have become aware of the limitations of this technology, the severe conflict of interest between secondary buyers and the dev team/VCs, etc. > What happened to the thoughtful discussions on how crypto can improve people's lives? You realize either a) a decentralized computing system is a poor fit for the problem, or b) there is too much conflict of interest between the dev team and the vision. For a), a good example is talking about helping the "unbanked". The reality is that an immutable system with code prone to bugs/hacks is a booby trap for the economically vulnerable, aka the "unbanked". These folks are often poorly educated, making themselves even more vulnerable to tech hacks and social engineering hacks. For many developers, they become instant millionaires once they launch a token; they are too detached from the struggles of the underclass to sympathize with them and build a system for them. Also, crypto VCs don't care about funding improvements for the underclass, unless they think they can use the narrative to farm your sympathy and make your hard-earned dollar fly away.... For b), you can look into how big players glorify toxic MEV during this run - Blockwork's obsession with Solana's REV being the prime example. In 2021, ppl were talking about making a decentralized system more resilient to market manipulation. It is not really in the validators' or devs' interest to combat these manipulations if they can do the manipulation to enrich themselves. The reality is, blockchain doesn't change human nature - probably exacerbate the worst of them because they get to hide behind a stream to do nasty things to you while they stay far away in Dubai/Singapore. Devs, VCs, etc have thoroughly farmed a lot of goodwill out of this space in their path to enrich themselves. > What happened to people talking about new tech integrations A lot of it, "new tech integrations," end up just as a narrative for funds to pump and dump. You don't see many tangible benefits. > supporting other struggling communities. You are better off by donating money directly to select charities. They will be more effective and transparent about what they will do for your social utility function. > Additionally everybody is either hostile to each other in the comments  I have grown increasingly intolerant, impatient, and hostile toward a lot of nonsense in this space. The level of brainwashing is insane here. If someone keeps telling you the sky is green everyday, you eventually get fed up and tell them to STFU.

pawgtube

Been in crypto for a while and seen plenty of platforms come and go but Mevolaxy caught me off guard in the best way. This isn’t some clickbait staking Dapp with made-up APYs. They actually run predictive mempool scanning, build sandwich bundles, and let you stake capital into those flows. It’s the first time I’ve seen MEV infrastructure offered through a clean interface for public use without centralized control. I staked ETH to test and the bot execution looks sharp. What’s really wild is they’re not just stuck in Ethereum. L2s are already in the pipeline and routing optimization across chains is working under the hood. Feels like someone finally brought serious infra-level logic to retail DeFi.

shanehaverney

Totally agree. At first I was pretty skeptical about this whole MEV staking idea. It sounded a bit too slick and usually that kind of thing ends up being either some middle-layer scheme or just a flashy UI wrapped around nothing. But in this case you can tell the architecture is actually solid. They’re really parsing the mempool in real time and building custom bundles. Also really impressed with how they’re handling L2 integration and crosschain stuff. Almost nobody actually scales beyond Ethereum but these guys are already testing Scroll and zkSync. From an architecture standpoint this doesn't feel like some MVP thrown together. It looks more like an institutional-grade platform. No goofy liquidity pools with random tokens either. Everything’s pretty transparent and yes it’s fully noncustodial.

WorthRepair8798

NEO \- Tiny market cap \- Well funded (can afford decades of development still) \- Huge tech developments on the horizon \- Most comprehensive toxic-MEV resistance (currently on test-net) \- AI with SpoonOS x ChainGPT partnership (excited to see where this go) \- The dual token system (check out GAS rewards, its incredible) \- Solid De-Fi (Flamingo Finance)

MinimalGravitas

No probs, I'll always try to answer properly if I can. And I think in terms of total drop it could potentially be up to 0.3% if you factor in MEV and tips, but yea, not a big deal really. There is just so much ETH staked already that the ETFs aren't a very significant size in comparison.

MinimalGravitas

There are currently about 6.6 million ETH held across all the ETFs. There are about 36 million ETH currently staked, so if all the ETH held by ETFs was staked it would increase the total amount staked by about 18%. Current attestation reward is 2.58% (not counting unpredictable things like MEV and proposal tips). With the extra 6.6 million staked the basic rewards would drop to about 2.37%, as the total both increases slightly and is shared between more validators. Things like the MEV and tips would just simply be reduced by the 18% (though obviously they vary a lot week to week anyway. If your total staking rewards at the moment were 3% today they might be expected to drop to about 2.7% if 100% of the ETFs converted to staking.

Xescure

There’s only one chain capable of taking on the wave of stablecoins and tokenized assets. One that not only scales like no other (11M TPS stress test with Google Cloud), but also has the all the compliance features needed for institutional adoption: Optional KYC, an extensive permission system, native tokenization (no smart contract vulnerabilities), and the elimination of mempools (bye bye MEV). Reading between the lines they had more adoption in their private pilot programs than half of crypto combined. For example: They operated as the authoritative record of balances for banks all around the world. They not only took over the interbank settlement layer, but also the banks’ internal tech stack. This pilot birthed the Anchor system, which is probably the most useful feature that I’m not even gonna go into. This is still just the tip of the iceberg. I could go on and on, like how this can actually extend to 50-100M TPS or how they trialed a system to replace VisaNet (that’s why they needed PCI DSS Level 1), but you would stop believing me. Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction. See you at r/Keeta

barthib

The inflation of the ETH supply is 0.12% since the Merge (0.8% at most in low activity periods). Moreover, if you stake, you get a 2.8% yield (more if you subscribe to MEV). **So, overall, in the worst case (low activity period) you profit from the equivalent of a stock buyback of 2% per year (deflation), while holding BTC costs you a dilution of 0.8% per year and will never be below 0%.** For treasuries, there is no doubt that ETH is a superior asset to store value. –2% inflation versus +0.8%.

barthib

The inflation of the ETH supply is +0.12% since the Merge (+0.8% at most in low activity periods). Moreover, if you stake, you get a 2.8% yield (more if you subscribe to MEV). **So, overall, in the worst case (low activity period) you are left with the equivalent of a stock buyback of 2% (deflation), while holding BTC costs you a dilution of +0.8% per year and will never be below 0%.** For treasuries, there is no doubt that ETH is a superior asset to store value.

BioRobotTch

This shouldn't be illegal. Nodes that do MEV exploit network users to extract value from them by sandwich attacking their trades. Allowing attacks on nodes doing MEV punishes those who are exploiting network users. Don't want to be a victim to this then don't do MEV.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; MIT-educated brothers Anton and James Peraire-Bueno face trial for allegedly stealing $25 million from Ethereum traders using MEV bot manipulation. They exploited vulnerabilities in the Ethereum network, targeting validators with lure transactions to attract bots and execute their scheme. A U.S. judge denied their motion to dismiss fraud charges, citing insufficient arguments. The stolen funds were laundered through multiple crypto addresses. The trial is set for October 2025. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Xescure

There’s only one chain capable of taking on the wave of stablecoins and tokenized assets. One that not only scales like no other (11M TPS stress test with Google Cloud), but also has the all the compliance features needed for institutional adoption: Optional KYC, an extensive permission system, native tokenization (no smart contract vulnerabilities), and the elimination of mempools (bye bye MEV). Reading between the lines they had more adoption in their private pilot programs than half of crypto combined. For example: They operated as the authoritative record of balances for banks all around the world. They not only took over the interbank settlement layer, but also the banks’ internal tech stack. This pilot birthed the Anchor system, which is probably the most useful feature that I’m not even gonna go into. This is still just the tip of the iceberg. I could go on and on, like how this can actually extend to 50-100M TPS or how they trialed a system to replace VisaNet (that’s why they needed PCI DSS Level 1), but you would stop believing me. Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction. See you at r/Keeta

MichielLangkamp

I really like keeta, read this post i saw on twitter: Keeta Mainnet is around the corner, so what should we expect? Most mainnets are sell events because of huge capital raises and VC unlocks using the news for volume on their exit pump… in these situations the Mcap has already been over inflated to multiple billions and the tech was more than likely vapourware to begin with. Why would @KeetaNetwork be any different? Keeta launched at roughly 600k Mcap, lowest I’ve ever seen for an L1 and they allowed the trenches and non VCs to bid it all the way up. Was the fairest launch I’ve seen in some time for a tech project. With no VC sell pressure, and all holders waiting to see how the tech goes, if mainnet is a success will there be a sell off? Perhaps a little but it will be short lived. $KTA is really breaking barriers and if they deliver on everything they say they’re doing, we send to billions. Not an if, it’s a when. -11 million TPS -Anchors allowing it to be the financial back bone for all of fiat and crypto -KYC compliant for institutions -MEV resistant -Quantum compute resistant -Transaction cost at fractions of a penny -Eric Schmidt backing (ex google ceo, who took google from a startup to what is is today) -More big partnerships yet to be disclosed They’ve identified a real need in the financial space and they are solving a problem that will garner the interest of all of TradFi. They didn’t just build an L1 for the sake of it. We are going a lot higher. This is where kings are made. Everyone wishes they invested in Facebook, Amazon or Google early but who really pulled the trigger? Now’s your chance imo. Happy bidding :)

Realistic_Ad_7930

Keeta $KTA It‘s the only chain capable of taking on the wave of stablecoins and tokenized assets. One that not only scales like no other (11M TPS stress test with Google Cloud), but also has the all the compliance features needed for institutional adoption: Optional KYC, an extensive permission system, native tokenization (no smart contract vulnerabilities), and the elimination of mempools (bye bye MEV). Reading between the lines they had more adoption in their private pilot programs than half of crypto combined. For example: They operated as the authoritative record of balances for banks all around the world. They not only took over the interbank settlement layer, but also the banks’ internal tech stack. This pilot birthed the Anchor system, which is probably the most useful feature that I’m not even gonna go into. This is still just the tip of the iceberg. I could go on and on, like how this can actually extend to 50-100M TPS or how they trialed a system to replace VisaNet (that’s why they needed PCI DSS Level 1), but you would stop believing me. Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction. r/Keeta would be its own Subreddit

AnoAnoSaPwet

You'll get MEV'd if you try to do that on any exchange or DEX. 

QuantumBurritoz

Because people can't use it yet, lol. SC roll out in 2 weeks. That opens up DEFI, Stables w/ MEV resistance, and a slew of EVM apps. There are a ton of apps already live on the test net. Did Solana have a ton of users before it launched?

QuantumBurritoz

I think if you look into Kaspa's MEV resistance for stable coins, that should be all you need to know to see the potential. But, look into KII and DII if you want some more. Zk roll ups. Defi uses blockdag (written by the OG). Everyone is going to say there is no use case blah blah blah. Nobody uses Kaspa blah blah The fact is, no-one does use it. Well, at least for a few more weeks. Smart contracts are getting ready to roll out (2 weeks). Circle already committed to a native USDC stable on Kaspa. Again, look into MEV resistance and you will see why this is VERY attractive to whales. Defi with the quickest settlement times and the highest security features. All the technical stuff is cool, but when it comes to real world uses, Kaspa is stocked and is finally, after 3 years of building, ready. There are a ton of apps already running on the test net. The next few months should be pretty intense for Kaspa. Will it replace BTC? No. And no one is saying it will, lol. If BTC is gold, Kaspa will be silver.

QuantumBurritoz

I think Kaspa's MEV resistance would like to have a conversation with you.

bestjaegerpilot

we tokenized the Brooklyn bridge. you can buy a part of history right on the blockchain. you need phantom wallet with a MEV bot DM me for details. only $29.99 on ETH. guaranteed to moon in one hundred years

MaximumStudent1839

> DefiLama reports Solana's 24hr revenue at 125k, ETH's at 500k and Tron at 2.2M. What these articles are really talking about is "REV", a rebranded name for MEV. Defillama's revenue number is for base fees. Solana's majority of revenue is coming from MEV. The biggest examples include 1) sniping bots paying validators to bundle and snipe new meme launches or 2) MEV bots fucking traders on illiquid memes via sandwich attacks. Now, if Solana only has big memes, this revenue would dry up quickly. Why? You can't really bundle established memes. Neither can you snipe them. Big memes also have sizable liquidity pools so it is a lot harder to sandwich attack traders. This is why for Solana's REV to go up, they need to promote newcomers to get raped on new meme launches constantly. Only a never-ending cycle of launching millions of meme per year can you keep up Solana's REV up. It is completely unsustainable because there are just not enough retards out there to get constantly butt raped by these bots paying REV to validators. You eventually run out of fools. When pump fun "trenches" died, Solana's REV also got chopped up in half. Right now, you are seeing another boost coming from Solana cabal trying to make bonkfun the next thing. Hence, you see another spike in REV as bonkfun is now printing gazillion new memes everyday for bots to buttfuck traders.

MaximumStudent1839

The time to be bullish for SOL was in 2023 and 2024. I was shouting hard about it in this sub and got muted with downvotes everytime. Now SOL leadership show they have lost the plot. Back in 2023/2024, there was a credible case for Solana to outperform everything. It defined its own lane. It promised to be different from this cesspool space of VC nonsense. In the end, it just embraced what it critiqued, turned its back, and became obnoxious. 1) Solana brand itself to build apps “only possible on Solana.” It turned out to be a massive narrative farce. Top leadership are just all interested in promoting token launches. That shit has been in crypto since forever. They said they will fund the best non-financial consumer apps. It turned out a lot were just retarded AI slop. A lot of its DePIN projects turned out no different from the rest of crypto in being an inflation farm. 2) Solana promised to invent its own best narrative and lead the space. It turns out, it just promote whatever slop derivative aping what ETH is doing. ETH talks about AI agent, Solana makes its chatbot rugpull slops. ETH talks about tokenizing tokens, Solana follows up with its rug ICM meta. Not only it signals its leadership as unimaginative but also signaling a lack of confidence to follow their own lane, as they like to brag about it before. 3) Solana has pushed for parallel execution. That is good. But every other chain is slowly adopting it too. It is not a moat anymore. Plus, when the chain gets busy, your tx just get dropped often, making it unreliable to use. 4) Solana think it is smart to tie its token valuation down to the REV metric. It is the same mistake ETH maxis did with ultrasound money. There are multiple vectors to this problem. Most of Solana revenue comes from extraction games. They are often unsustainable and don’t promote a rosy growth picture. The amount of idiots who can glue their face on pumpfun 24/7 probably peaked. When the pool of fools who want to play sub-1 min rug games get depleted, the music chair stops. So you’re tying up your token’s value in a drying up game. Then, shit like MEV makes the entire crypto system a complete downgrade compared to TradFi. You are tying up your token’s appeal by relying on it being an inferior system to TradFi. 5) Solana’s public image is so bulldozed. They used to criticize ETH for all the VC games. Now they are just doing the same. Have you watched Coffeezilla vids? His YouTube channel has a much wider reach than most retarded crypto influencers. He has a couple of episode interviewing influencers on them being bribed to launch shit to rug their followers on pump fun. A lot of shit even surprised me - even though I spent so much time here. It goes to show a lot of those who run Solana hates crypto and just want to rinse this space as fast as possible and cash out for good.

skirtedrails

You're building (or may already have built) your own aggregator. What was the reason for this decision instead of going with an established aggregator? What security measures are in place on the aggregator to prevent attacks like MEV?

princess_princeless

Most likely also with an MEV/Flash bot so it's not even remotely worth it.

Additional-War-837

What do you mean by MEV btw? First time I read about this acronym to be honest

sirporter

Yeah is a difference I think quite a few people are missing. Many stablecoin users want speed and cheap transactions while counter party risk is not a huge issue, especially those who have a small amount of their net worth or those whose alternative (ex: unstable foreign currency) is worse. Now what about a large company or institution who is building new financial rails? They care about counter party risk, MEV, and long term guarantees. They are more likely to build their own L2 or build on top of a centralized sequencer because they can trust MEV won't be a large issue (depending on the L2).

caramida_plutitoare

I'm trying not say that you are dumb, but you are not making my job easy, trust me. You clearly do not understand the differences between the two protocols. So please put that arrogance aside and read. **Ease of Adoption** **StratumV2**: Requires firmware updates or translation proxies for V1 devices. More complex due to new sub-protocols and roles, but backward-compatible via proxies. **DATUM**: Simpler to adopt, runs as a lightweight layer on Stratum V1. Requires a Bitcoin full node and DATUM gateway (can co-exist on one device). **Adoption Barriers** **StratumV2**: Slow adoption due to complexity, firmware updates, and pool reluctance to cede control. Miners may avoid Job Negotiation due to MEV (Miner Extractable Value) concerns. **DATUM**: Easier for miners to adopt due to minimal changes to existing setups. May face resistance from pools not supporting DATUM. Requires miners to run nodes.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; SOL Strategies, a Solana infrastructure company, has launched a Strategic Ecosystem Reserve (SER) to support key blockchain projects within the Solana ecosystem. The reserve's first acquisition is 52,181 Jito (JTO) tokens, the governance token of Jito, a leading MEV infrastructure and liquid staking provider. The initiative aims to back projects that enhance Solana's growth and performance. SOL Strategies plans to fund the SER using validator revenue and expand support to other Solana projects in the future. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

MaximumStudent1839

>  It's hilarious you started this outrage by saying "SOL is pulling in 1B per year?!?!" and now attempting to move the goalpost to "it's currently declining!!". ROFL. You are honestly a clown to think it's past revenue that matters, not forward revenue. If you think ***centering the discussion on forward revenue*** is moving the "goalpost", then you have no position to talk about evaluating an asset by revenue. This is why the space is such a clown show. It is ppl like you abusing metrics to polish turds. >  Easier to admit you didn't know.  Go look through my history. When I argued for the SOL's bull case, it was around $20, and everyone was full bull on ETH/Celestia. I have been closely tracking SOL for many years now, before BTC even got its ETF. I pivoted once I realized the ecosystem's top is only interested in promoting fraud narratives, like ChatGPT as "AI" and Web 2 companies issuing meme tokens as "ICM". Sold and exited the ecosystem for around $250. > Issuance goes fully back to SOL holders lol. Doesn't change the fact it is an expense to maintain the network. > everyone believes L1 coins that earn 0 rev over a meme is somehow acceptable for established networks.  Oh wait. How did SOL make its revenue? Is it not MEV tips from trading memes? Yeah, its REV ran the hardest during that vaporous AI meme run. And it peaked exactly at the Trump/Melania meme. Then it accelerated its decline after the Argentine meme. Bruh, your entire REV historical data is based on ppl trading zero-revenue tokens. You just ran into a paradox - argue for trading revenue-based tokens means Solana's future REV will just continue to decline, hence its token valuation. > web 3 revenue with Solana apps Let us rank Solana's apps by cumulative revenue. Source: [https://defillama.com/chain/solana](https://defillama.com/chain/solana) 1) Pump 2) Phantom 3) Photon 4) Jupiter 5) BullX 6) Bonkbot 80%+ are all related to trading short-term shitters. All the extraction is already one. The data shows an extremely high attrition rate - just see how much Moonshot's volume has fallen off a cliff. Those poor noobs who got burnt, they aren't coming back to Solana casino. Warned many of them not to participate in the pump fun extraction last year - many didn't heed my warning. LOL. So, what catalyst will bring Solana close to its old levels? Nothing on the horizon. You are just latching on to old data for hopium.

Particular_Pop_7553

If pointing out real solutions makes it a cult, what does blindly following hype make the rest of crypto? I’m pointing to actual design choices that solve real issues that plauge every chain, reentrancy, MEV, infinite approvals, etc. I don't think people understand how bad those issues are. Most chains haven’t even attempted to tackle these structurally. If that’s “cultish,” then i guess crypto is done for.

Particular_Pop_7553

So what about Alephium? It actually is solving issues like reentrancy and MEV attacks that plague Ethereum. I don't think any other chain has touched on this. It also makes tokens themselves a native asset so you have full control over them. Uses sUTXO as well, essentially just UTXO like bitcoin but also account logic for SCs. Also custom language called Ralph which does things like explict asset approvals,built in annotations, and its syntaxs makes ralph more simple than say solidity. Did I mention it uses proof of work? So full network security of bitcoin. It also uses something called BlockFlow, which is pure atomic single step sharding which has also been abstracted away. Something to keep your eye on IMO. Fundamentally it does something different that no other chain does. Actually fix shit.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

[https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/attack-and-defense/](https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/attack-and-defense/) *At >50% of the total stake the attacker could dominate the fork choice algorithm. In this case, the attacker would be able to attest with the majority vote, giving them sufficient control to do short reorgs without needing to fool honest clients. The honest validators would follow suit because their fork choice algorithm would also see the attacker’s favored chain as the heaviest, so the chain could finalize. This enables the attacker to censor certain transactions, do short-range reorgs and extract maximum MEV by reordering blocks in their favor.* [https://ethresear.ch/t/dynamic-finalization-considering-51-attacks/21112](https://ethresear.ch/t/dynamic-finalization-considering-51-attacks/21112) *1. Classification of Existing Attack Methods* *Several attack methods against PoS Ethereum are known, with potential outcomes that attackers might realistically target, including reorg, double finality, and finality delay. A crucial factor in this analysis is the staking ratio required for an attack, indicating the minimum stake necessary, which serves as a barrier to entry. However, nearly as critical is attack sustainability, which measures how continuously an attacker can maintain the attack. If an attack is sustainable, it could cause significant damage. Additionally, attack stealthability is also important, as it indicates how covertly an attacker can execute an attack. If a protocol cannot detect an attack, it becomes difficult to determine whether defensive measures are necessary. Higher values for both metrics indicate a more negative outlook from the protocol’s perspective. The representative attack methods analyzed include:* 1. *Finality delay 33% attack* 2. *Double finality 34% attack* 3. *Short-reorg & censoring 51% attack (control over future)* 4. *Short-reorg & censoring 66% attack (control over past and future)*

biba8163

> Price is a lagging indicator - these things get priced in eventually Keep telling yourself that but here are the facts: - Stablecoins have grown 120% since 2021 while ETH marketcap/value is down almost ~-50%. > there are unrelated catalysts like RWA’s ETH is down -30% since the BlackRock RWA meme shilling began https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bkm1u1/blackrock_unveils_crypto_fund_first_with_5/kvzup2u/ There have been ~6,000 BlackRock BUIDL transactions over 1+ year. At the current rate, the transaction fees collected would something like $900. So all that Blackrock brought was ~$800 in fees for 1 year. https://etherscan.io/token/0x7712c34205737192402172409a8F7ccef8aA2AEc YYou will eventually learn that ETH like all cryptos is a speculative asset whose value does not come from utility or usage and in order to compete as a rails network for stablecoins, it will need to remain cheap... > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. (Sept. 2024) > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/ ...and ETH is not cheap considering it has no institutional, corporate, nation state, big money interest > Who is buying ETH for $3,000+? That is insanely expensive. Plus, insiders, developers, VCs got a ton of the supply for essentially free and have oligarchical privilege to print their own ETH for free and dump until perpetuity. (Nov. 2024) > Who is buying ETH at $3K to make significant moves to a $400 Billion marketcap asset? https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gujmk1/daily_crypto_discussion_november_19_2024_gmt0/lxzks6h/

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bybit is launching Byreal, a decentralized exchange (DEX) on Solana, marking its entry into Hybrid Finance (HyFi). Byreal combines centralized exchange speed with decentralized finance transparency, featuring RFQ + CLMM tech to reduce slippage and combat MEV attacks, a 'Reset Launch' mechanism, and a 'Revive Vault' for yield strategies. The testnet launches June 30, 2025, with the mainnet planned for Q3. This move signals Bybit's pivot into DeFi and commitment to rebuilding trust in the Solana ecosystem. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

HSuke

Just dumping information I wrote awhile ago on the problems with Stratum. This is not ChatGPT. ------------------ The most popular pool-mining software, Stratum v1, uses **Getblocktemplate** under the hood. What miners can see from command line network requests: - Coinbase Transaction hash - This ensures that miners don't cheat the pool since the Coinbase Tx rewards will go to the pool's address - Previous block hash - Target hash difficulty That’s not enough info to detect a reorg or withholding attack as it’s being prepared. One misconception is that Bitcoin miners within a pool only get rewarded for solving submitting a winning block. If that were the case, most miners would NEVER get paid. **Instead, individuals usually get paid a shared reward whenever any members solve a puzzle, and they also get paid when they solve a lower-difficulty puzzle with fewer leading zeros.** **There are 2 big problems with Stratum v1**: 1. miners don't know if they solved a share (an easier puzzle) or the actual block puzzle, so they can't tell when a withholding attack is happening, even if they are monitoring it. 1. Getblocktemplate info is all hidden under the user interface. If they're using one of the top pools, they're not going to be monitoring it unless they’re running command line scripts. ##**Stratum v2** The main proposed solution to solve mining pool centralization that's been in development for several years (and 10 years overdue) is [Stratum v2](https://braiins.com/blog/stratum-v2-bitcoin-decentralization). **Stratum v2 is an optional pool-mining software upgrade that allows miners to propose their own block of transactions** If everyone were to switch to Stratum v2 with the optional Job Declaration and Template Distribution Protocols enabled, then all transactions would have to be agreed-upon by **both** the pool operators and the miners, but the miners control the order and the MEV. **Thus, as long as either the pool operator or the worker is honest, AND the worker is monitoring using a node, attacks cannot happen without both the miner and pool operator allowing it.** The problem with Stratum v2 is that there is no economic incentive for mining pool operators to allow v2. They would be shooting themselves in the foot. With v2, the game theory problems from years ago would return. ##**Problems with Stratum v2**: - **It's optional**: Stratum v2 is an optional upgrade with 3 optional components. No one is forced to run any of them. Pool operators don't have to allow Stratum v2. Job Declaration and Template Distribution Protocols which allow for miners to have input on blocks are also optional and not enabled by default. - **Economic disadvantage**: Miners will likely continue to join the pools with the highest rewards rates, and those will be the ones running Stratum v1. At the end of the day, miners care about getting the highest rewards rate. For example, Flashbots is still way more popular its competitors despite censorship simply because they have the most MEV. - **Reduced MEV and loss of control**: Miners are packaging their own transactions, and they might not select the most MEV for the pool. Pools would no longer be able to control out-of-band MEV by ordering transactions in the block for their partners. For-hire mining would take a huge loss. - **Requires miners to run full nodes to be decentralized**: Miner-submitted block templates require miners to be running full nodes. There are plenty of miners who choose to not run full nodes and thus can't build block templates. So the decentralized version of Stratum v2 would be limited to miners who are also running full nodes. - **Network Delays**: There is a small additional network delay due to miners building their own blocks, sending it to the pool, and then waiting for a response for whether it's valid. The Job Negotiation process can take several seconds. Mining empty blocks would have a larger competitive advantage. - **Vulnerable to Sabotage**: Competitor could also sabotage their pools by not submitting blocks so that their rates seem lower, leading to more joining their own pool. Competitors would lose out on a $million worth of rewards, but they would gain more miners in the long run. - **Mining Pool operators can still reject miner-submitted blocks** … though this specific kind of attack would be detectable and can serve as an early warning. Currently, there are a few small anti-censorship pools that use Stratum v2 with miner-submitted block templates. There is almost no chance any of the top pools to use it because it’s economically-disadvantageous. Thus, mining pool operators still control all of Bitcoin mining, and it’s impossible to detect an attack by miners until after it happens.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Crypto exchange Bybit is launching its first decentralized exchange, Byreal, on the Solana network. The testnet will go live on June 30, with a mainnet launch expected later this year. Byreal aims to combine centralized exchange liquidity with DeFi transparency, featuring tools like RFQ and CLMM routing to enhance user experience and prevent MEV attacks. The platform will also introduce innovative features for fair token distribution and yield opportunities. Bybit's move positions it to compete with leading DEX platforms like Uniswap and PancakeSwap. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

AnoAnoSaPwet

I'd recommend to just make smaller trades, pay slightly more fees, to avoid being MEV botted. I always pre-plan all my live trades now because it happens so often, that you might not notice a HUGE chunk lost to the bots? If you're day-trading, I'd recommend to hop from DEX to DEX for more opportunity to buy/sell. I've noticed you're more likely to be botted if you're day-trading on the same DEX, with similar trades, than if you jumped to another DEX that has the same token you're trading.  I swear DEXs nowadays have their own bots that prevent you from swap trading for profit on their platforms? 

HudyD

Depends on your risk appetite. BTC is steady(ish), and a weekly DCA strategy will do well over time. Alts? Higher upside, higher risk. If you’re planning to explore alts, maybe do a 70/30 split and make sure you use tools that won’t leave you exposed to MEV or rug pulls. Banana Gun’s bot helped me not get sniped like 3 times in a row

sdmikecfc

Bridge your ETH from Ethereum Mainnet to zkSync Era using Orbiter Finance, then wrap it into wETH. Take that wETH and deposit it as collateral into a LayerZero-enabled lending protocol like Radiant Capital on Arbitrum. Borrow USDC against your wETH, then swap that USDC for stETH on Curve using a custom zapper via DeFiSaver. Stake that stETH in Pendle Finance to tokenize your future yield, then LP the YT/PT pair on Camelot for extra emissions. Use the Camelot LP tokens as collateral on a new LSDfi protocol like Lybra to mint their overcollateralized stablecoin, eUSD. Finally, bridge your eUSD back to Ethereum using Across Protocol (for fast finality), swap it for ETH on CoW Swap (to avoid MEV), and now you're back where you started—but you're now "DeFi-native," have six wallets, a tax nightmare, and possibly a future airdrop coming your way. Welcome to crypto!

zxr7

If you wonder what that "whatever" is here is a bigger list: Smart contract bugs Bridge hacks Oracle manipulation Custodial risk Collateralization failure Governance attacks Flash loan attacks Liquidity risk Rehypothecation Regulatory risk Minting/burning errors Key management failure Exit scams Insider threats Censorship risk Chain reorganization Peg loss Front-running UI/UX spoofing Sybil attacks Dependency risk Time-delay exploits Upgradability risks Multisig compromise Phishing attacks Economic design flaws Token standards mismatch Downtime or halts Dependency on third-party oracles Composability risk (Lego risk) Incomplete audits Network congestion MEV (Miner Extractable Value) exploits Chain-specific vulnerabilities Cross-chain execution risk Lack of insurance coverage Liquidity pool draining Mispricing in AMMs Contract immutability or lack thereof Fee volatility Slippage risk Wrapped asset depeg Legal enforcement on custodians Trust assumptions in minting authorities Cross-chain data inconsistency Insecure integrations

DonkeyAsleep7884

Yup. Better UX is great, but I'm also glad to see stuff like gasless execution and MEV protection getting more common. Things are changing for the better in DeFi and that’s all that matters.

fishyflu

That's a MEV bot, he bought and sold that amount of sol to make a quick 10$ trade.

fishyflu

It's a MEV bot trade I think

AnoAnoSaPwet

BTC has some viability attached to holding, for security purposes, but if everyone is holding it, it's only going to pump so much.  These companies are buying and selling for 5% gain, dipping in and out, while you hold it for their security. They are the ones who own all the MEV bots, the snipe bots, swap traders, that flip for a few bucks here and there with a 99% success rate.  How much money are you making by holding? Probably fuck all until you sell. I watched Trump's wallet back in January, through Arkham and Etherscan, every Pro-Crypto tweet he or his family made, was immediately followed by dumping Ethereum. They dumped $250M worth of ETH in a span of a few years days.  And that's just Trump. Imagine how many others are doing it?  Etherscan has a public transaction max of 10000 trades, and you can do that in a couple days easy. Good luck auditing that. 

Warm-Expression-369

I’ve built bots like this for a client before, and honestly, I got hooked on the idea of using bots to automatically catch pump or moonshot trades. The early days were rough - my bot kept getting wrecked by MEV bots and sandwich attacks. But after adding some countermeasures to stop frontrunners and sneaky scripts from tricking us, the results got really solid. What I’ve found to work best is: - Never use more than 1 SOL per trade. - Don’t hold more than 3 positions at once. - Always have the option to close positions manually. - And most importantly, let the user fully customize and filter the logic however they want. Lately, I added a quick flash loan feature that you can trigger with just one click. This opens up a ton of new possibilities. Plus, there’s a simple text field where you can add your own options and functions using Pine code, making it super flexible. Overall, it’s been a wild ride, but these tweaks really made the bot way more reliable and powerful.

jclaslie

Enclave masks your trade with encryption, so no one can see it taking place until after it is executed. There is no way for MEV bots to extract anything from you because the trade doesn’t even show up on their radar.

g4mersdavico

That sounds great but how does that even work? I always thought that on-chain trading can’t be hidden from MEV bots?

Tricky_Troll

> Yes, lets look at Blackrock's BUIDL Fund. > > ETH is down -50% since mETH Heads started shilling the BlackRock BUIDL shilling started 1 year ago and mETH Heads started smoking hopium talking about the number of transactions that were about to flow through... I find it comical that you're once again only relying on past performance to justify your opinions. Man will this bite you in the ass one day. I feel bad for you at this point. The lack of critical thinking is palpable. Nice cherry picking data again! Holy fuck you're disingenuous. You're grasping at straws at this point. Try $245 million in the first week and that was a year ago. Now Blackrock is looking at up to approving $150 **BILLION** on Ethereum. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bpqffo/blackrocks_buidl_ethereum_fund_draws_245_million/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1kb9ekn/the_worlds_largest_asset_manager_blackrock_files/ >75% of all trades all algorithmic, High-Frequency (HFT) trades. The last few years, there have been improvements in things such as hollow-core fibers to try to improve systems by nanoseconds for trading systems to gain advantages. Do you know what a nanosecond is? A nanosecond is a billionth of a second. What blockchain can process transactions at that speed? It literally does not matter who is behind the trades. In the future, the vast majority of transactions will be done by AI agents and bots. This is by design. After all, all of these transactions pay fees! >Do you know what a nanosecond is? A nanosecond is a billionth of a second. What blockchain can process transactions at that speed? Trying to be condescending eh? Don't play a game you can't win. Have you heard of MEV? Blockchain transactions have long been ordered based on who pays the highest fees to block builders. Not who gets their orders in first. You clearly don't even understand the basics of blockchain if you think that getting your orders in first matters. >Aptos, Arbitrum, Avalanche, Optimism and Polygon Arbitrum and Optimism are both Ethereum and Polygon's roadmap ends as Polygon becoming a ZK rollup on Ethereum. This is basic knowledge. How can you not know this? Mind-boggling. As for Avalanche and Aptos, well their usage is minimal and TVL insignificant. >You CANNOT point to ONE SINGLE large corporate purchase of ETH by corporations, institutions or billionaire investors. Hell, the ETF has barely brought in any inflows. There is NO big money interest in investing in ETH. Are you a bot? Are you a hallucinating LLM? When did I do that? Ethereum adoption has a comprehensive list of major institutions and companies building on Ethereum. >You are misleading noobs and gullibles Gullibles is not a noun. Not that you know what a noun is I'm sure.

CunningStunt_1

I don't hold any AAVE. I occasionally suggest "use AAVE". People suggest AAVE because of its track record and stability. Does the protocol even have any bad debt? Rates are secondary in this market when an exploit happens every couple weeks. It is all liquidity. I'm not 'loyal' to Eth. I'm loyal to usefulness. Uniswap allows me swap 1000's in value with minimal slippage. My only concern is MEV, which I counter act with flashbots. If fluid manages a couple years without exploits or accuring large sums of bad debt I will look at moving some stuff over. By then, the rates will be the same!

CaptainUssop

"I’m curious what other people are doing for real on-chain automation. Do you run your own scripts on a VPS or use a service? " - You I run my own scripts. I own a vps but I jut run them from a secondary computer that I treat like a highly restricted work/code pc. ( no games, no cracks, no installing random software. it has like 3 programs and runs linux. I trust my server security but I mean I only trust it because I have not had a problem yet. Hosting a website or game server or even a business is alot different than hosting the keys to my direct personal finances. Also no , I do not use any third party services at all. Just python, my pc, and an exchange api. " What kind of success rates do you see and how do you protect yourself from failed transactions or MEV front-runs?" - You Define success rate? From one perspective I could say a 100% success rate. When the market dipped last month, some funds did get tied up at higher levels but today that is all cleared up and recovered. If you mean a success rate based on trades within the same day. Probably like 8 at 1.2% but I wouldnt use the numbers I list as optimal. I still have more coding to do and areas I Can improve. January I was testing a hft strategy, this month I am doing a grid strategy thats a bit wider. I was at 34k volume with the hft strategy. Grid strategy is muuuuuch muuuuch slower but does feel safer if the market dips. I have not really had failed transactions. Sounds like your are doing a completely strategy than me that involves on-chain features. I would note that me doing things differently doesnt mean you are wrong, I just haven't tried it. I can't really comment. "Would love to hear about your setups, the actual numbers you hit, and which tools or strategies you trust to keep your wins ahead of your costs." - You You would. I wont tell you my strategy or setups but here are a few numbers. my sql database has 60k rows of orders. I started in october with mostly small trades. 10 cent trades. at one point I botted 7 different cryptos but now I am a bitcoin maxi. I also do litecoin because I can afford a full coin, and its boring. Its boring and volatile. a rise from 70 to 80 excites no one. a rise from 80-90 excites no one. It gets twice the trades as bitcoin does and is so spectactularly boring. all gains it makes in price crashes immediately. But the ltc trade bot is only using like 5% the funds the bitcoin bot is using. its been fantastic. I have probably spent 1k hrs since october coding or doing math. instead of being gain focused, most of my ideas are about risk aversion. B4 ppl think I am rich, I am only making like less than $10 a day. I put in a couple minimum wage checks into the bot. That is all. If i lose it, well I just lost a couple months, im okay with that since i probaly spent alot more on alcohol in my 20s just to piss it all away.

7862518362916371936

>> Do you really think calling people 'mETH heads' and DeFi a 'shitcoin casino' makes you sound smarter or somehow strengthens your argument? >The DeFi shitcoin narrative has resulted in EVERY single investor falling for the meme losing money on DeFi shitcoins of which EVERY single one is at a loss from 4 years ago. Someone needs to talk common sense instead of /r/cc circlejerking itself to DeFi off a cliff >> stablecoins >Stablecoins are crypto's killer use case and besides BTC, the only other asset that is growing long term. These networks are just rails and not investments >> lending >overcollaterlized loans using volatile crypto as leverage to gamble on shitcoins. Nobody is getting a loan for a car, a mortgage, etc with the DeFi meme >> tokenization >97% just stablecoins. Some niche case pilots for treasuries but shilled to death as RWA are the future and leading people to huge losses >> Billions in real-world value flow through Ethereum daily, enabling financial tools without banks, borders, or gatekeepers. >Besides value moved around in trading as with all cryptos, again rails for stablecoins. Doesn't mean ETH is an investment or has to go up in value. Tron dominates developing countries btw. And it doesn't mean this shitcoin tokens that are being shilled will go up in value. >> Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains >https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/ Okay so it feels like you’re making up arguments and then answering them yourself, weird but ok. This conversation is not about token prices or investments so I'm not sure what you're trying to do here, I'm not having another "my crypto is better than yours situation". Calling DeFi a “shitcoin casino” or Ethereum a “pure investment vehicle” completely misses the point. We started with “Ethereum is dead,” yet it powers a multibillion dollar DeFi world: stablecoin rails, tokenized assets, permissionless lending ecc... That's not a meme coin casino. Stablecoins as investments? That is like calling roads investments instead of infrastructure. Ethereum is a utility platform powering real economic activity, if you're only after price what's the point to even discuss anything.

biba8163

> Do you really think calling people 'mETH heads' and DeFi a 'shitcoin casino' makes you sound smarter or somehow strengthens your argument? The DeFi shitcoin narrative has resulted in EVERY single investor falling for meme losing money on DeFi shitcoins of which EVERY single one is at a loss from 4 years ago. Someone needs to talk common sense instead of /r/cc circlejerking itself to DeFi off a cliff > stablecoins Stablecoins are crypto's killer use case and besides BTC, the only other asset that is growing long term. These networks are just rails and not investments > lending overcollaterlized loans using volatile crypto as leverage to gamble on shitcoins. Nobody is getting a loan for a car, a mortgage, etc with the DeFi meme > tokenization 97% just stablecoins. Some niche case pilots for treasuries but shilled to death as RWA are the future and leading people to huge losses > Billions in real-world value flow through Ethereum daily, enabling financial tools without banks, borders, or gatekeepers. Besides value moved around in trading as with all cryptos, again rails for stablecoins. Doesn't mean ETH is an investment or has to go up in value. Tron dominates developing countries btw. And it doesn't mean this shitcoin tokens that are being shilled will go up in value. > Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

biba8163

> Can bitcoin natively handle Stablecoins As I have explained to mETH Heads, Bitcoin is not competing with Shitcoin Networks. If you still don't get this, you will continue losing money or at best it'll be a massive opportunity cost long term > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/ > Defi DeFI, TVL, etc are all scam narratives. It's not Decentralized. It's not finance. - Essentially a Shitcoin Casino. Leveraged plays, trading shitcoin tokens, earning yield on shitcoin tokens, providing liquidity on shitcoin tokens. NOT FINANCE - Every player like, MakerDAO, AAVE, LINK etc, is COMPLETELY CENTRALIZED - There are **no life financial products like life, home, health insurance, mortgages, home equity loans, car loans, personal loans without massive collateral, commercial loans, etc.** Again, shitcoin trading, yield farming, etc is NOT FINANCE. - Then you slap some scamified metrics like TVL based on scam tokens locked up to make gullible fools believe real capital is locked up instead of vaporware scam tokens.

biba8163

> my environmental concerns Because you are repeating some narrative from 2016 saying "destroys the environment" without articulating anything. Most of BTC mining is powered by clean renewable energy today and trending more to that. It's actually helps bring demand to transition to renewable energy, stablizes the grid, reduces the need for gas peaker plants, etc. > Also ETH via UNI and AAVE allows people from countries with no access to dollars to not only hold dollars via stablecoins TRON dominates Stablecoin usage in developing countries and as I've said many times, rails for stablecoins is the killer use case for these competing networks which will have to remain cheap. > Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/ > ETH’s dapps are decentralized...Via governance, you know, the only buzz word you chose to not include in your rant. Decentralized Governance is a scam. I've called this centralized governance bullshit scam out many times, 5 years ago, 3 years ago, etc. > One man, Rune Christensen controls the system, interest, fees, voting, etc. There are ELEVEN addresses that accounted for 98% of the voting for the protocol change for an "executive vote" used USDC. Eleven addresses control the entire protocol and a protocol change was voted in just...what 24 hrs? And most of those addresses are probably owned by a handful of people. On what planet is that decentralized? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/fl68d4/crypto_collateralized_stable_coins_have_proven/fkxc40i/ > AGP42 : Put differently: aside from one whale, AGP42 passes. The Aragon community overall voted for AGP42, but it was rejected with 69% of the vote because of one whale. > AGP37: 82% in favor of AGP37. 453k to 99k. But then the whale voted. So despite 83% of addresses voting in favor of AGP37, on the surface it appears to be a large defeat where 66% vote against. > AGP-35:: Here’s another case in point: Edgeware Lockdrop Proposal for Aragon..The 792k whale voted for this. Deduct the whale’s votes and you get 338k. Which means that this proposal was losing by about 15% at ~43% versus ~57% pre-whale. Then the vote went from losing decisively to winning by a massive landslide. So aside from the whale, the Aragon community voted against Edgeware lock drop participation https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/16qpy14/comment/k1zmjv5/

CunningStunt_1

Ahahahaha priority lane for MEV!! Hope you are lubed up, retail Arbitrum users, Jaredfromsubway is coming.

jclaslie

What about encrypted exchanges? I read somewhere that they don’t have frontrunning issues because MEV bots can’t see your transaction until it is executed?

biba8163

> ETH is like Amazon in 2000 Zoomers investing with meme narratives is exactly why you keep losing money. In 1999, Amazon had a PE ratio of like 160 at one point. It was an online startup that did sales of mostly books and was LOSING money. The entire stock market was in a huge bubble with a PE of 33 and things came crashing down. Through the next 15-20 years, Bezos and Jassy transformed Amazon to a retail giant which today has: - 40% market share of all ecommerce. 40% of all online sales goes to Amazon. - 30% market share of Cloud Computing, a massive cash cow where the world, business, governments, media, etc all run on AWS Cloud. - A massive global delivery infrastructure including 1.5 Million employees, 100,000+ vans, 99+ Airplanes, 175 massive fulfillment centers - 350 Data Centers across 20 countries, a massive global infrastructure of undersea transatlantic and transpacific cables bypassing the slow public internet for their content delivery networks ETH is no AMZN. Nothing is being built on it except Shitcoin Casinos. Sure it'll be used as rails for Stablecoins but as I've warned before it's just competing to be a cheap network with other networks and its own L2s. Just like the Meme ETH narratives of DAOs, ICOs, DeFI, Triple Halving, Ultra-Sound Monies....the RWA and "ETH is like AMZN" will continue to result in losses or at best missed opportunity in better investments. > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

itdoesntmatter51

Yeah I meant 250 and mistyped, doesn't really matter because it's 500x the other chain all time highs, and the 45b last month is still 100x higher. Hasn't died out at all, and the MEV scene is a lot more active on that chain too, so volume away from DEXs is higher too. Talking about memecoins being success is pure goalpost moving, you took issue with the idea that Solana has handled higher volumes than any of the other chains. Whether it's memes or not doesn't matter, it is the most performant chain we've seen

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

The standout feature with EnclaveX is the fact that it’s fully encrypted. So not only is your orderflow private, which is a pretty big deal on its own, but this also makes MEV/frontrunning and sniping obsolete as well.

DaddyDogmeat

There's no 100% safe way There's always some attack angle. Seen projects audited by trusted companies and still hacked. If you're putting a part of your savings, like profits from shit coin trading into such stuff then it's different than money that you owe. I gambled on insanely risky shit but I wouldn't do what you're planning. Only decently safe yields would be something like Eth validator but then it's only about 4% It's a bit more with MEV boost as long as you use trusted relays

DaddyDogmeat

What "info" are they going to steal? You make separate wallets for use with telegram bots and don't store large sums in them, move profits regularly They've got nothing to steal from you apart from the coins you have You need to understand that MEV bots (all forms of them) are insanely hard to do well It doesn't matter how good you're in programming, you could be best programmer in the world but if you don't understand and have experience in MEV and deep deep knowledge of Blockchain it's not going to work. Unless you mean simple trading commands so you don't have to log into your wallet. But if you want a bot that will successfully snipe or want the bot to automatically sell your coin milliseconds before a scammer dev pulls liquidity from it The you only have like 3 products on EVM chains that can compete. Rest is useless

biba8163

**Every crypto investor should read about ETH Maxis shilling bullshit hype narratives before losing their money investing in ETH!** Since March 2024 when ETH Maxis started shilling BlackRock BUIDL, Soneium, RWA memes and ETH is down -60% since then. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bkm1u1/blackrock_unveils_crypto_fund_first_with_5/ RWA was shilled so much that mETH Heads actually believe ETH is like oil. I mean the entire planet consumes oil every day, nobody has heard of ETH or needs ETH > - Remember Ethereum has all the fundamentals to be the engine of the next gen Internet economy. > - Did the 1973 oil crisis end the demand for oil? Not. > - This market crisis doesn't change anything in Ethereum's properties and the superpowers it brings to onchain applications. > - Onchain is the new online. And Ethereum is best positioned to make it. https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1jsnf2h/daily_general_discussion_april_06_2025/mlsga3o/ Remember when ETH Maxis said, Blackrock is only building on Ethereum? They've also started using multiple chains now including Aptos, Arbitrum, Avalanche, Optimism and Polygon. I tried to warn mETH Heads that ETH has to remain cheap in order to compete with other Shitcoin Networks and it is competing with its own L2s but they wouldn't listen > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/ Even if the whole world needed public blockchain tokens for transactions, the tokens would not go up in price. Competing networks that provide rails for any time of widely adopted tokenization will need to remain cheap in order to compete. - In 1970s, the world population was ~3 Billion, energy was 16% to 20% of the S&P 500 - Today, the world population is ~8 Billion, energy comppanies account for 1.5% to 3% of the S&P 500 Interesting, Stablecoins which make up 97% of RWA have gone up 120% in marketcap while ETH has gone down -~70% since 2021. BTC and Stablecoins have had growth and Excluding BTC and Stablecoins, the total marketcap has gone down more than -50%. Hell, ETH price ~-10% from January 2018 when accounting for inflation. | | 2021 | 2025 | Δ |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| | BTC | $1.23 Trillion| $1.62 Trillion | 32% | Stablecoins | $0.11 Trillion| $0.24 Trillion | 118% | Memecoins | $0.066 Trillion| $0.048 Trillion | -27% | Ex.BTC/Stables/Memes | $1.45 Trillion| $0.752 Trillion | -53% | Total Crypto | $2.86 Trillion| $2.6 Trillion | -9% RWA is just ETH Meme investing propoganda just like these memes that were spammed endlessly here telling your ETH would conservatively be $20K and reach up to $150K flipping BTC in marketcap. This has done nothing but resulted in losses or forgone profits from the opportunity cost in investing in ETH which has an Annualized Rate of Return of 1.52% over 7+ years from January 2018. - Triple Halving - Supply Crunch - Ultra-Sound Money - DeFI > The Ethereum triple halving and why ETH will easily overtake BTC in marketcap https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/p5m9eq/the_ethereum_triple_halving_and_why_eth_will/ > You've probably seen many ETH price predictions usually ranging from $10,000 to $20,000...but it would thus be erroneous to use BTC price predictions and apply them to ETH as it is almost always done with ETH price predictions. EIP-1559 and PoS will account for a reduction in ~90% in sell pressure due to the deflationary tokenomics and huge monetary incentive to stake ETH which in turn gives more illiquidity, implies the price of ETH could reach up to $150,000 in a best case scenario. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pen9od/the_ethereum_triple_halving_part_2/ > Let's clear up the facts around EIP-1559, the merge/triple halving and ЕТН becoming a deflationary asset...For over a decade now the crypto market cycles have revolved around the Bitcoin halvings when the supply of new coins going to miners halves. This is important because miners are majority sellers. They have electricity bills to pay https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ofcxrn/lets_clear_up_the_facts_around_eip1559_the/ > Here are some simple calculations implications of POS' triple halving. ...ETH issuance goes down from 4% to 0.5% IMMEDIATELY. What took BTC 12 years to achieve, ETH is gonna do it in 1 block length! https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/oz5hkm/eth_has_managed_to_burn_4600_eth_24_hours_after/ Reminder that there have been other ETH meme investing thesis in the past like the Ethereum Alliance of businesses that would lead the whole world to build on Ethereum. Or Ethereum hype about gaming giants coming to Ethereum: > Gaming Giant Ubisoft announces their first game on Ethereum https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/14okrbd/ubisoft_announced_theyre_releasing_their_first/ > Grand Theft Auto' dev Take-Two's first crypto game launching on Ethereum https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1712q12/grand_theft_auto_devs_first_crypto_game_doing_a/

AyeeTerrion

Verus is everything Ethereum wishes it was. MEV free, fair launched, self sovereign rent free IDs, fidelity awarded it as most innovative technology. AI will even pick this over ETH. Nobody wants to be front running and all liquidity is don’t on the protocol level.

biba8163

> So I’m still early! You might get earlier. ETH is growing like Benjamin Button. Well, not just ETH but all Alts. BTC/Stablecoins and Alts are completely different universes. The BTC/Stablecoins Universe is Expanding. The Alt Universe is contracting. - BTC and Stablecoins are the only assets that are growing long term - Excluding BTC/Stablecoins the marketcaps of crypto has now gone down more than -53% - Even Memecoins which get blamed for taking away liquidity have shrunk in marketcap - Number of Alts sharing that shrinking marketcap has gone from 5,000 to over 1+ Million | | 2021 | 2025 | Δ |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| | BTC | $1.23 Trillion| $1.62 Trillion | 32% | Stablecoins | $0.11 Trillion| $0.24 Trillion | 118% | Memecoins | $0.066 Trillion| $0.048 Trillion | -27% | Ex.BTC/Stables/Memes | $1.45 Trillion| $0.752 Trillion | -53% | Total Crypto | $2.86 Trillion| $2.6 Trillion | -9% ETH Maxis have brainwashed ETH investors with the RWA meme. 97% of RWA are just stablecoins. Stablecoins have grown 120% since 2021 but ETH price has tanked -70% since then. Yet still, ETH investors really have been brainwashed into believing ETH has fundamentals with ETH having the utility of oil or the internet. The entire planet consumes oil every day, nobody has heard of ETH or needs ETH > - Remember Ethereum has all the fundamentals to be the engine of the next gen Internet economy. > - Did the 1973 oil crisis end the demand for oil? Not. > - This market crisis doesn't change anything in Ethereum's properties and the superpowers it brings to onchain applications. > - Onchain is the new online. And Ethereum is best positioned to make it. https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1jsnf2h/daily_general_discussion_april_06_2025/mlsga3o/ Even if the whole world needed public blockchain tokens for transactions, the tokens would not go up in price. - In 1970s, the world population was ~3 Billion, energy was 16% to 20% of the S&P 500 - Today, the world population is ~8 Billion, energy comppanies account for 1.5% to 3% of the S&P 500 I tried to warn mETH Heads that ETH has to remain cheap in order to compete with other Shitcoin Networks and it is competing with its own L2s but they wouldn't listen > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

AyeeTerrion

It’s also not MEV free and front running extracts value out of users. TPS isn’t what changes the game nor treating it like an investment for a project. AI will also not choose Tron because of active users on telegram. It’s not decentralized either

biba8163

This is how dumb ETH investors are. They really believe ETH has fundamentls fundamentals with ETH having the utility of oil or the internet. The entire planet consumes oil every day, nobody has heard of ETH or needs ETH > - Remember Ethereum has all the fundamentals to be the engine of the next gen Internet economy. > - Did the 1973 oil crisis end the demand for oil? Not. > - This market crisis doesn't change anything in Ethereum's properties and the superpowers it brings to onchain applications. > - Onchain is the new online. And Ethereum is best positioned to make it. https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1jsnf2h/daily_general_discussion_april_06_2025/mlsga3o/ Even if the whole world needed public blockchain tokens for transactions, the tokens would not go up in price. - In 1970s, the world population was ~3 Billion, energy was 16% to 20% of the S&P 500 - Today, the world population is ~8 Billion, energy comppanies account for 1.5% to 3% of the S&P 500 I tried to warn mETH Heads that ETH has to remain cheap in order to compete with other Shitcoin Networks and it is competing with its own L2s but they wouldn't listen > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, **in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains.** BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

Whole-Ad3696

Gotta watch out for that MEV sandwich.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A white hat MEV operator, 'c0ffeebabe.eth,' intercepted $2.6 million in crypto assets stolen from Morpho Labs' DeFi protocol after a vulnerability caused by a front-end update. The funds were transferred to another wallet, but it's unclear if they have been returned to the original owner. Morpho Labs reversed the update, confirmed its front-end is safe, and resumed normal operations. 'C0ffeebabe.eth' has previously recovered funds in other DeFi exploits, including Curve Finance and Blueberry protocol incidents. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

oak1337

Hedera Hashgraph HBAR. Leaderless Fair Ordering. No front running. No trade sniping. No MEV. Fair trades, always. Fixed Fees, priced in USD. https://docs.hedera.com/hedera/networks/mainnet/fees

oak1337

Hedera Hashgraph HBAR. Leaderless Fair Ordering. No front running. No MEV. Fair trades always. Fixed Fees, priced in USD. https://docs.hedera.com/hedera/networks/mainnet/fees

Mattie_Kadlec

You can’t prevent frontrunning as long as you are using basic DEX interfaces. This is an inherent “flaw” of blockchain tech itself. I know that some dexes like Cowswap tried to add MEV and frontrunning protection but fully encrypted exchanges are the only way to protect yourself from this.

CunningStunt_1

Protect.flashbots Will get a rebate on your Eth lost to MEV/front running. Similar product that chainlink just released with AAVE for MEV reclaim from liquidations. I do find front running less an issue on L2s. Assuming you are trading on Eth?

101ca7

\> Next time, maybe read the whitepaper before trying to dunk on Bitcoin. It has been known for years that relying solely on a fee market in Bitcoin is highly problematic without further amending the protocol. See e.g. Carlsten et al. "On the Instability of Bitcoin Without the Block Reward" and Tsabary and Eyal "The Gap Game". Basically the incentives to maintain a public mempool become much worse than they are now, and mining profitability becomes erratic. Btw you can see a similar issue in Ethereum due to MEV, where mempool privatization is unfortunately moving forward. Next time you maxisplain, at least paint an accurate picture

warriorcustomer

Asked deepseek this: "how would you try to take over (manipulation of) the crypto market if you were a market party like BlackRock or vantage to avoid being shut out of the market by the parties that lead the crypto market?" Answer: To hypothetically explore how a large financial entity like BlackRock might attempt to influence or dominate the crypto market, we must consider a blend of strategic, technical, and regulatory approaches. Importantly, this analysis is purely theoretical and does not endorse unethical or illegal actions. Here's a structured breakdown: ### 1. **Strategic Market Influence** - **Acquire Key Infrastructure:** Purchase or invest in major crypto exchanges, custodial services, or blockchain platforms to control liquidity, fees, and market access. - **Launch Dominant Financial Products:** Introduce ETFs, futures, or staking services to attract institutional capital, leveraging brand credibility to sway market trends. - **Tokenize Traditional Assets:** Create tokenized versions of real-world assets (e.g., gold, stocks) on blockchains, positioning their ecosystem as central to crypto markets. ### 2. **Market Manipulation Tactics** - **Liquidity Control:** Use high-frequency trading algorithms and dark pools to manipulate order books, creating artificial price movements. - **Wash Trading/Spoofing:** Artificially inflate trading volumes or spoof orders to mislead retail traders, then execute large OTC trades to avoid detection. - **Cornering Assets:** Accumulate a critical mass of a low-liquidity cryptocurrency (e.g., a niche DeFi token) to manipulate supply and demand dynamics. ### 3. **Regulatory Capture** - **Lobby for Favorable Policies:** Advocate for regulations that burden smaller players (e.g., stringent KYC/AML rules) while securing exemptions for institutional entities. - **Promote Institutional-Friendly Stablecoins:** Push for adoption of a proprietary stablecoin as a regulatory-approved standard, marginalizing decentralized alternatives. ### 4. **Network-Level Influence** - **Target Proof-of-Stake (PoS) Chains:** Acquire large stakes in PoS cryptocurrencies (e.g., ETH, SOL) to influence consensus decisions or extract MEV (Maximal Extractable Value). - **Collude with Miners/Validators:** Partner with mining pools or validators to prioritize transactions that benefit their strategies (e.g., front-running trades). ### 5. **Information Warfare** - **Narrative Control:** Use media partnerships, research reports, and social media to promote narratives favoring their holdings (e.g., "Bitcoin to $1M") or disparaging competitors. - **Exploit Insider Data:** Leverage data from partnerships (e.g., exchange order flows) to inform trading strategies before public disclosure. ### 6. **Decentralized Finance (DeFi) Infiltration** - **Acquire Governance Tokens:** Buy controlling stakes in DeFi protocols (e.g., Uniswap, Aave) to steer protocol changes, fee structures, or asset listings. - **Exploit Smart Contracts:** Use proprietary algorithms to identify and exploit vulnerabilities or inefficiencies in DeFi protocols for profit. ### 7. **Obfuscation and Risk Mitigation** - **Shell Companies/Offshore Entities:** Mask ownership of wallets, mining operations, or trading accounts through layered corporate structures in lax jurisdictions. - **Plausible Deniability:** Frame aggressive strategies as "market-making" or "risk management" to avoid regulatory scrutiny. ### 8. **Long-Term Ecosystem Capture** - **Standardize Proprietary Tech:** Develop blockchain interoperability standards or privacy tools that favor their infrastructure, becoming indispensable to the ecosystem. - **Merge TradFi and Crypto:** Integrate crypto services with traditional finance (e.g., collateralized loans, payment rails), creating dependency on their platforms. ### Risks and Counterforces: - **Community Backlash:** Crypto’s decentralization ethos may trigger resistance (e.g., forks, protocol changes) against perceived centralization. - **Regulatory Blowback:** Overreach could lead to global investigations or sanctions. - **Technical Limits:** Blockchain transparency (e.g., on-chain analytics) might expose large accumulations or manipulative patterns. ### Conclusion: A hypothetical takeover would require a multi-pronged approach combining financial firepower, regulatory influence, technical expertise, and narrative control. However, crypto’s decentralized architecture and community vigilance make sustained dominance challenging. Ethical market participation, rather than manipulation, remains the viable path for long-term success.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Aave has integrated Chainlink's Smart Value Recapture (SVR) on the Ethereum Mainnet to reclaim liquidation MEV, historically leaked to blockchains, and boost protocol revenue. SVR uses Chainlink Price Feeds and Flashbots' MEV-Share service to recapture Oracle Extractable Value (OEV) from undercollateralized loan liquidations. Revenue is split between Aave and Chainlink communities, with plans to expand markets and enhance features. This innovation aims to create sustainable DeFi economics and support oracle infrastructure. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

KhunSG9722

Crypto still wild as ever - hacks, rugs, MEV drama nonstop. DEX volume’s up, but stability? Nah. BTC’s either trolling or gearing up. So, we ridin’ this wave or cashin out?

jawni

Find better sources. DBCrypto and Wazz are notorious for constantly trying to FUD Solana. What actually happen was a lot of the volume came from an MEV account, and that account lost it's delegation because of the sandwiching, leading to it winding down the operation. https://x.com/artemis/status/1806311804534161555 A lot of volume on every chain comes from MEV and arbitrage, another example is a bot on Base literally paying 20% of all the fees Base generates as well as 30% of the ETH/USDC volume and 40% of the cbBTC/USDC volume: https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1870953803606049064

chillinewman

There is no such thing to send it privately to a MEV bot directly. You need to bundle it in a block.

Zaytion_

You could just read the article: > "If you have [North Korean] illicit funds you could construct a very MEV-able [transaction], then privately send it to a MEV bot and have them arb it in a bundle that way you wash all the money with close to 0 losses."

Zestyclose_Acadia_40

"The trader was using a USDC-USDT liquidity pool on Uniswap V3, which is one of the most liquid trading pools for stablecoins. According to DeFi researcher Michael Nadeau, an MEV bot front-ran the trader's transaction by swapping out all of the liquidity, causing a disparity in prices between two coins supposed to be pegged to $1. The bot also tipped a block builder called bobTheBuilder to process its transaction first." - The Article

amrelshamy

There is something called slippage (spread), which is the % deviation you can allow from the agreed upon price and still have your transaction execute. For example, if I’m buying a token at 100k and I set my slippage to 10%, my transaction will go through anywhere from 90-110k. Setting high slippage is a must when trading volatile tokens (like memecoins), so some people use 40%-60%. There exists a solution for this, called MEV protection, which is usually very effective. This incident seems either intentional or a very horrible mistake because there is no way somebody has this high of a slippage when swapping stablecoins.

jaymbee00

Basically, your trade is front run. Someone buys a million shares milliseconds before you, pushing the price way up. Your transaction goes through at the new higher price. Then asshole immediately sells under you, and your purchase is now half the value. There are bots scanning blockchains looking for these types of attacks. Keep MEV protection on.

hasanDask

Read up on MEV

biba8163

> A big L for Ethereum is that it's delivering so much value, BTC is what gives ETH value. The market is a cruel teacher and if you don't get this, it will keep kicking you in the nutsuck until you do. I went to several mETH Houses help mETH Heads suffering from brain rot but I was told to *"get some psychiatric help." > ETHs value appreciation comes not from utility but like all Alts from capital and liquidity brought by BTC -- see point 1. Also, in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains. BTC on the other hand has no competition. It doesn't have to scale, it doesn't have to become cheap, it doesn't have to keep advancing, it doesn't have to keep up with the competition because there is no competition. > *All this points are illustrated with ETH value is already being less than 1/3 BTC value from the summer of 2017 and continuing to trend lower over time. A short time frame of possible ETH out-performance if/when BTC goes on a big bullrun will draw short-sighted fools and their money who will over time watch with despair the falling ratio just as /r/ethfinance is doing so today.* https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

MinimalGravitas

**Pulja Ohlhaver** Pulja has become well more know in the Ethereum community following the publication of the paper 'Decentralized Society: Finding Web3's Soul', of which she is a co-author. This was what sparked the conversations around soul-bound tokens and their uses in the middle of last year, it also talks about the state and future of many aspects of the space that are key to governance, such as Sybil resistance, quadratic funding and social recovery wallets, all of which are becoming increasingly important in DAOs and Web 3.0 in general. * https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4105763 She is a big picture / long game thinker for what the crypto ecosystem could become, if we can navigate our way there without falling into corporate/governmental control on one side of the ridge or fraudsters and scams on the other. If you haven't read the paper yet then I highly recommend it, or at the very least listen to her explain it. * Bottom up Building: Pathways towards a Decentralized Society [DevCon 6]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpBmA-8FVc Like everyone else on this list, Pulja has a variety of other contributions, such as being the Strategy Counsel at FlashBots (the MEV research and development organization). * https://www.flashbots.net/

oak1337

Hedera is King of DLTs. None better. RWA Tokenization Studio, Stablecoin Studio, AI Agent Kit, AI Provenance and Governance (NVIDIA and Intel), IoT with satellites launched on SpaceX, Etc etc etc... Infinite scalability, mathematically best possible security aBFT, fixed fees priced in USD ($0.0001 USD), leaderless fair ordering (no MEV trade sniping), greenest (carbon negative) etc etc etc... Entire codebase open sourced and donated to Linux Foundation. Hedera will be the Trust Layer of the Internet of Value.

AnoAnoSaPwet

MEV bots and Trading Bots destroyed every DEX. You can't compete with their sheer buying power. They can be used to destroy competing projects. Now we sniping bots, bundling bots, quick sell bots. There's too many trading bots now as it is. 

shadowdax

Like mate it isn't hard. If you have any evidence, any at all, that validators deliberately took down the chain, then please present it. Instead you just mumblefuck about MEV or something. I am waiting

CorneliusFudgem

Example of Snapshot substitution to restore block headers (and with MEV’d tx’s you can rearrange order and finality in the halted/resumed block as you’d like). That would be the DDOS attack in 2023 where superminority took the chain down via coordination in discord. And another list for you: https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?collection=solana-instability I’ll let you do your own homework from here on out buddy. It’ll do you some good to learn how to use the internet 😉

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

And yet, the number one PoS blockchain is vulnerable to DDoS attacks, MEV frontrunning attacks, and other malicious activity because it uses a leader-based consensus protocol; Hashgraph does not have those issues That's the importance of aBFT security. Hope you learned something today!

edmundedgar

BTC is a greater fool game where the expected return for the average investor is mathematically guaranteed to be negative. ETH is a productive asset with a positive expected return, because holding ETH entitles you to fees and MEV revenue from people sending each other USDC and trading pictures of monkeys (in varying proportions depending whether you choose to stake or not).

Pure_Ad_9865

The Hedera Hashgraph consensus algorithm is the mathematical endgame of distributed ledger technology. Unlike blockchains, uses compact hashes instead of large raw data in a graph structure (DAG) to achieve efficient, decentralized consensus. Information spreads through the network with virus-like efficiency, making Hedera (HBAR): * **aBFT-secure** (offering the highest level of security) * **Leaderless with no MEV** (preventing transaction manipulation) * **SHA-384 post-quantum resistant** (future-proof cryptographic security) * **Provable fair ordering** (eliminating miner/validator manipulation) * **Infinitely scalable** without L2s or forks (100,000+ TPS per shard) * **Sub-3-second finality** (near-instant transactions) * **Carbon-negative** (the greenest DLT) * **Low, fixed fees pegged to USD** (\~$0.0001 per transaction) * **Open-source codebase with a vendor-neutral governance model under the Linux Foundation** (Project Hiero) On a technical level, Hedera isn’t just more advanced than other DLTs—it defines the future of decentralized technology and the post-quantum era. For example, it is 3300x more energy-efficient than Ethereum. But, to take Hedera to the next level, we need: * **More aggressive marketing towards retail adoption** * **Community nodes for increased decentralization** Leemon Baird (inventor of Hedera) and Charles Hoskinson have been spending time together recently, proving there’s no need for hate or tribalism. Hedera and Cardano are building the future—together. ❤️

alterise

Don’t forget the MEV. Solana’s pretty brutal on that front since transactions are so cheap and bots can just spam all day.

monerobull

Monero doesn't get half of it's blocks censored by OFAC compliant MEV builders.