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Legal-Fault5426

I know people who own cryptocurrency on Binance and don't know what a metamask or other wallet is. It's a tragedy. One of the reasons people moved away from DeX to CEX is the fucking MEV.

Intelligent-Leave676

I like Cardano and hold a lot and engage still in Community votes as a dRep. Charles is not in charge. Solana has more usage but 80% are bot transactions (low transaction fees) and a lot also include MEV attacks. The only chain which has real usage is Erhereum because of first mover advantage and because UTXO and Cardanos EUTXO is really hard to build on - but that is changing really fast. I think it has the chance to catch up.

oak1337

It certainly does! Let's start easy. ETH cannot fairly order your transactions (MEV, Frontrunning, Sandwich Attacks). Users pay bribes to the King Block Leader in order to decide where their transaction gets ordered. Hedera has leaderless fair ordering. Fair for everyone! No one can decide the order of transactions. There's many more (scalability, decentralization, ABFT, fees, network stalls, etc) if you'd like me to continue.

CODE_HEIST

I would not trust any swap venue enough to stop comparing completely. For small swaps the time cost matters, but for large ones I check the final received amount, MEV protection, and route quality. A platform can look cheapest in the quote and still lose after execution.

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Post is by: oak1337 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1uxampy/in_the_end_all_roads_lead_to_hedera_hashgraph_hbar/ Hedera Hashgraph (HBAR). **Leaderless** architecture completely eliminates MEV, Frontrunning, Sandwich Attacks, etc. Any chain with a Block Leader has these problems and has some way of trying to "mitigate" it. **Don't mitigate, eliminate!** Block Leaders are also a security issue, since if you shut down the centralized single leader (DDOS), you shut down the network. **ABFT (Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance).** This was an unsolved math problem in computing since \\\~1982 (over 40 years). Dr. Leemon Baird solved it using \*\*Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting\*\*. It is the gold standard of consensus algorithms and will never be beaten. Perfect mathematics. \[https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/\](https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/) **Fees are fixed in USD, and paid in HBAR**. This makes it easy to forecast costs for users. \[https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees\](https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees) It has **Unlimited Scalability**. The current throttle is 10,000TPS, but that is a conservative throttle on a single shard. Add more nodes/shards to add more scale, as needed. Unlimited. **Modular Design for easy upgrades.** Hedera has the perfect mathematical foundation of Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting. Everything on top of that can be plug and play. This is why it will only take changing a couple lines of code to upgrade to Post-Quantum Security. **Hedera should be Post-Quantum with ML-KEM (waiting on libraries) and Falcon Signatures (waiting on NIST) by 2027.** Add that Hedera is already SHA384 and AES256, both Post-Quantum. \[https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/\](https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/) It is **Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale**, meaning it's Nakamoto will only increase as it scales. All nodes are essentially equal (Gini and Theil Index), so adding more nodes/shards only increases Nakamoto. https://www.nodiens.com/market-research-reports# (Decentralization Comparative Model Across Blockchains) Full Hedera code base has been \*\*open sourced with Apache 2.0 and donated to Linux Foundation.\*\* \[https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero\](https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero) **Private HashSpheres, ZK Proofs, and encrypted messages to Mainnet,** means you can use your own private network that seamlessly connects to Mainnet, or keep your transactions private in many ways. https://hashgraph.com/blog/introducing-hashsphere-a-private-permissioned-network-powered-by-hedera/ **Cross-Ledger Protocol (CLPR)** enables cryptographically-secured communication and token transfers between independent blockchain networks–all without bridges, pooled liquidity or intermediary validator networks. Bridges are the most hacked/scammed part of crypto, so CLPR offers **bridgeless bridging.** https://hashgraph.com/clpr/ It's also **governed and being built on by a diverse set of Global Fortune 1000's and University's**. They have 3 year terms (max 2 consecutive terms, max 39 members), and all have 1 equal vote on governance issues. This means the Council rotates and power is never consolidated. https://hederacouncil.org/ **In short TLDR**: leaderless, best possible ABFT consensus, best possible SHA384 AES256 ML-KEM Falcon Signatures Post-Quantum Security, Unlimited Scalability, Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale, fully open sourced with code donated to Linux, private HashSphere, connect to any network with CLPR, with a rotating expert governing council that is building enterprise grade solutions. Any questions? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

oak1337

Hedera Hashgraph. **Leaderless** architecture completely eliminates MEV, Frontrunning, Sandwich Attacks, etc. Any chain with a Block Leader has these problems and has some way of trying to "mitigate" it. Don't mitigate, eliminate! Block Leaders are also a security issue, since if you shut down the centralized single leader (DDOS), you shut down the network. ABFT (Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance). This was an unsolved math problem in computing since \~1982 (over 40 years). Dr. Leemon Baird solved it using **Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting**. It is the gold standard of consensus algorithms and will never be beaten. Perfect mathematics. [https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/](https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/) **Fees are fixed in USD, and paid in HBAR**. This makes it easy to forecast costs for users. [https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees](https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees) It has **Unlimited Scalability**. The current throttle is 10,000TPS, but that is a conservative throttle on a single shard. Add more nodes/shards to add more scale, as needed. Unlimited. **Modular Design for easy upgrades.** Hedera has the perfect mathematical foundation of Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting. Everything on top of that can be plug and play. This is why it will only take changing a couple lines of code to upgrade to Post-Quantum Security. **Hedera should be Post-Quantum with ML-KEM (waiting on libraries) and Falcon Signatures (waiting on NIST) by 2027.** Add that Hedera is already SHA384 and AES256, both Post-Quantum. [https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/](https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/) It is **Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale**, meaning it's Nakamoto will only increase as it scales. All nodes are essentially equal (Gini and Theil Index), so adding more nodes/shards only increases Nakamoto. Full Hedera code base has been **open sourced with Apache 2.0 and donated to Linux Foundation.** [https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero](https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero) In short: leaderless, best possible ABFT consensus, best possible SHA384 AES256 ML-KEM Falcon Signatures Post-Quantum Security, Unlimited Scalability, Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale, fully open sourced with code donated to Linux. It's also governed and being built on by a diverse set of Global Fortune 1000's and University's. https://preview.redd.it/629pbn012fdh1.jpeg?width=918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2b1b470bb578aaecba269e450c153be5487ad15

GooodNiightaringding

I always use CoW swap. With most other swappers you're exposed to MEV-bots. There are others like Uniswapx that also protect against MEV, but I always get good rates through cow swap even for relatively illiquid tokens, so I just stick to it.

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**100% on-chain — and why that's rare** "On-chain" is a claim almost everyone makes and almost no one fully meets. MULTI/DEX means it literally — the matching engine, the books, custody, prices, history, and the front-end you're reading are all canister code on a public network. For contrast: **vs. Ethereum DeFi.** The contracts may be on-chain, but the *front-ends* typically aren't — they're websites run by for-profit companies on ordinary servers, which can change, gate, or disappear. And because that website is where you actually sign transactions, a **hacked front-end puts traders directly at risk**: a compromised domain or an injected script can quietly swap in a malicious transaction and drain the wallet that trusted it — a failure mode that has hit real DeFi users more than once. Here the app itself is served by the exchange canister; there is no company-run website in the middle to compromise. Meanwhile, front-running by validator nodes able to order transactions is seen as a feature called **MEV** (Miner Extracted Value). **vs. HyperLiquid.** It's fast, but it runs on what amounts to a dedicated, purpose-built cluster and is **entirely closed-source**. Because no one outside the company can see the code, its traders must place their **full faith in the operator** — you cannot verify the matching rules, the fees, or whether the house quietly advantages itself. MULTI/DEX runs on a real, general-purpose public network (the Internet Computer) and is **open source**: anyone can read it, verify it, fork it, or propose changes to it. **vs. dYdX.** Its order matching happens **off-chain**, in an engine the operator runs — only settlement touches the chain. So the rules that decide whose order fills first, and in what order, are not public, and there is **no way to know** whether the operator or privileged partners receive preferential treatment or the opportunity to **front-run** everyone else. MULTI/DEX matches *entirely on-chain*, in using rules that are public code: orders are staged so there is no queue to jump, release priority is earned and visible, and no operator or partner can be handed a private edge — because there is no operator. https://multidex.ai/#docs

oak1337

I think the MEV lawsuit against Solana Foundation & Founders, plus the general memecoin pump/dump/rugpull mania exhaustion, unplanned outages, plus the 90%+ decrease in performance for upgrade to Quantum Security will end up killing Solana.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera. https://preview.redd.it/ossiwx0390ch1.jpeg?width=970&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c91244062ded60855e3f33142e536076cdf466f

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus/security. Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

Aldhyabi

Dont use Stablecoins , MEV bots

Educational_Cable405

Stable to stable that size should be a couple bucks if it hits an actual stableswap pool, so the route is what got you, not the fee. $360 is right around 2.4%, which usually means one of two things: the swap widget left slippage at like 1-3% and a sandwich bot filled exactly up to whatever you left sitting there, or the aggregator hopped you through ETH on the way and you ate price impact on a volatile leg it never needed to touch. Big USDC/USDT orders on a shallow pool are basically a dinner bell for MEV.

CODE_HEIST

for 10k+ i would care less about the quoted fee and more about final execution. split routes, slippage, MEV, and liquidity depth can matter more than the pool fee. checking 1inch or CowSwap against direct pools is usually a good sanity check.

Backrus

You're parroting KOLs' narrative. Nobody uses public blockchain for anything critical. Why would they? To get sandwiched by MEV bots? Or frontrun in mempool? Tokenization? Do you believe Tom Lee? Because institutions chose Canton, not premined ether. I wonder why. BTC failed all its narrative, and lost ability to generate upside volatility after IBIT options launched - so it offers 0 risk premium over US indices, while offering the biggest downside in the world. If you don't see how cooked this space is, I have a bridge to sell you.

Irrationalender

Hilarious response from metamask.eth after this MEV sandwich jerk-off Jared cries hes gonna sue [https://xcancel.com/kkashi\_yt/status/2069084790679318786#m](https://xcancel.com/kkashi_yt/status/2069084790679318786#m)

Prior_Parsley3960

**Headline:** Infamous Ethereum MEV bot JaredFromSubway was drained of \~$7.5 million after attackers tricked it into approving malicious contracts. **Why it matters:** This wasn't a smart-contract hack or stolen key—it was a sophisticated manipulation of the bot's own automated trading logic, highlighting a new attack vector against MEV infrastructure. **Key points:** * Attackers created fake tokens and liquidity pools that appeared profitable to the bot's arbitrage/sandwich algorithms. * While pursuing these fake opportunities, the bot granted token approvals to attacker-controlled contracts. Some approvals remained active instead of being immediately consumed. * The attackers later used those lingering approvals to pull funds via `transferFrom`, draining roughly $7.5 million in ETH, USDC, and USDT (the operator claims losses may be closer to $15 million). * Portions of the stolen funds were reportedly routed through Tornado Cash to obscure their trail. * The bot operator has offered a 50% "white hat" bounty, offering to let the attacker keep half the funds if the remainder is returned. **Context:** * JaredFromSubway became one of Ethereum's most notorious MEV bots, reportedly accounting for a large share of sandwich attacks during 2024–2025. * In an ironic twist, a system designed to exploit other traders was itself exploited through its automated decision-making process. **Bottom line:** This is less a "hack" and more a **highly engineered approval trap**. The biggest lesson is that automated trading systems need strict approval controls and stronger safeguards against interacting with untrusted contracts—even when those contracts appear profitable.

CriticalCobraz

# Details about the Glamsterdam Upgrade: **Overview & Timeline** * **What it is:** Glamsterdam is a massive Ethereum hard fork combining the **Amsterdam** (execution layer) and **Gloas** (consensus layer) upgrades. Developers consider it the network's largest fork since "The Merge." * **Timeline:** Currently undergoing full-scale fork testing. Mainnet activation is expected in the **second half of 2026** (delayed from H1 2026 due to the upgrade's massive scale). The next milestone following Glamsterdam is already named **Hegota**. **Key Protocol Proposals** * **EIP-7732 (ePBS):** Introduces *Enshrined Proposer-Builder Separation*, moving block-building into Ethereum’s core protocol. This reduces MEV manipulation, removes reliance on centralized off-chain relays, and levels the playing field by guaranteeing payments for everyday validators. * **EIP-7928 (Block-Level Access Lists):** Allows blocks to declare in advance which data they will interact with. This enables client software to preload information and process transactions in parallel, making block execution faster and more predictable. **Performance, Capacity, & Fees** * **Throughput Boost:** The gas limit per block will increase from 60 million to **200 million**, pushing network throughput targets toward **10,000 TPS** (a \~10x increase). * **Fee Reduction:** Fees for simple transfers and complex smart contracts are projected to drop by **78.6%**. High-level computation will become cheaper (clearing a path for faster zero-knowledge proving systems), while raw state access will become more expensive. * **L2 Impact:** The cheaper, expanded block space will further reduce costs for Layer 2 rollups, building on the data capacity gains from the previous **Fusaka** upgrade.

SpareHonest1701

Account contention is what doesn't get talked about enough here. Parallel execution only works when transactions access different state. When everyone's hitting the same pool account — which is exactly what happens when a token goes viral — Sealevel serializes those and you're back to a queue. That's not a bug waiting to be patched, it's a consequence of shared mutable state. The local fee market (per account) is supposed to mean a memecoin frenzy doesn't affect unrelated swaps, but in practice when the scheduler floods on hot accounts, priority fee signaling stops working and transactions just drop. Ethereum's global fee market does the opposite. EIP-1559 means everything competes for the same block space — a Pepe launch raises gas for everyone. That sounds worse. It's also at least legible. The price signal actually works. The app architecture piece matters more than the fee debate. Solana's latency makes on-chain CLOBs viable — OpenBook exists and functions as a real CLOB. Ethereum at 12-second blocks with unpredictable gas killed serious CLOB attempts, which is why AMMs took over completely. This shapes price discovery more than fee mechanics: tighter spreads, faster arb loops, more market maker participation — but only when the network isn't congested on the same handful of accounts. On MEV: Jito formalized what was already happening. Validator tips through Jito are significant now and shape ordering behavior. PBS on Ethereum has been more mature and concentrated for longer. Both chains end up with sophisticated actors capturing most value during volatility. Different mechanisms, similar result. On your chain-vs-infrastructure question: the account model and fee market structure are the hard constraints. Everything else — RPC quality, validator geography, app architecture, MEV tooling — operates within those or exposes them. Most "Solana congestion" complaints are really account contention on a hot account. That's a different problem from raw throughput and it doesn't resolve the same way.

SpareHonest1701

Running three positions with real conviction right now, all based on forensic tokenomics work: **$ARB** \- Highest conviction. The L2 thesis is real and Arbitrum is the largest by TVL. Token structure has issues but at current FDV you're getting a meaningful discount to what this ecosystem should be worth if L2 activity keeps compounding. Key risk: whether sequencer fees ever actually flow to token holders. **$JTO** \- Jito captures actual MEV revenue from Solana. Unlike most infrastructure tokens with broken economic models, JTO accrues value from real protocol activity. If you're bullish on the Solana ecosystem, JTO is the cleaner bet than SOL itself - you're buying the toll booth, not the road. **$SXT** \- Smaller, write-off-tolerant position. ZK data infrastructure trading at a 14–20x discount to peers, backed by Microsoft M12, Framework, and Circle. The bear case is real: 30%/year dilution through 2029, protocol revenue only $68K/year. But the downside is mostly priced in. It's a lottery ticket on ZK infrastructure adoption - credible issuer, asymmetric payoff if the thesis plays out. What's your 5-6? Curious what thesis you're running on each.

lambardar

supposed. 1. for a currency to be a currency, it needs to have inflation. It has to lose value over time; otherwise people will just hoard it and cause it's value to go up. making it useless as a currency. 2. Regulation is important. The more I look at crypto, the more scammy it gets (MEV ??). Think of it like going to a bank to do a transaction in the wild wild west. You have shady people on the way, in the bank, everywhere. fake currencies, tellers scamming you. The whole bank might be fake. You need to be extra careful at every step. 3. Only time I've seen people use it is to do illegal stuff. Something as simple as paying a jeweler to avoid AML or taxes.

ThorgrinHaphazard

A few things! Happy to dive into it. Firstly, we’re not an aggregator. EverSwap is an AMM so we have our own liquidity pools - but our architecture is a brand new design. Each asset has just one pool - (e.g one pool for ETH, one pool for USDC, etc). We don’t have token pairs in a traditional sense. Instead of token pairs, we use a new weight based system. Each pool is assigned a dynamic weight that reflects its relative balance and utilization within the ecosystem. That weight is used to calculate the exchange value between assets - which also means that we have no reliance on external price oracles, which are a huge attack vector. Because of the design of our pools, every token essentially has a direct swap route with every other token - which means better swap rates because there is no need for routing through intermediary tokens eg ETH > USDT > wBTC, with EverSwap it’s simply ETH > wBTC. Our pools also facilitate swaps, lending, and borrowing from the same liquidity source. This is very cool - because it means that LPs can deposit just one token, they earn fees from multiple streams, and they earn every time the token they deposit is utilised - not just a specific pairing. We have some more magic that happens behind the scenes with relayers too. Because EverSwap doesn’t use pricing oracles, every pool interaction (swap, lending, borrow, etc) creates an arbitrage opportunity between EverSwap and external venues. We use relayers to execute transactions on EverSwap - with a new kind of meta transaction. Relayers fulfil users intents, perform arbitrage across the system to rebalance the weights of the pools. They get paid - and they share arbitrage surplus back to LPs - keeping value that would otherwise be lost to MEV within the protocol. That’s just a brief overview - let me know if you have any more questions :)

Unable_Beat_3194

There is always a counterparty, every sale has a buyer whether it is a market maker/taker, arbritrage, margin brokers or MEV trader. ETF settling between internal clients and flash loans especially same block executions rely on a consistent liquidity pool to have fast instant settlements. The point of having a large count coin is that you become the guarantor for liquidity between all these parties. That is one of the biggest reasons to be a treasury. You act as a central bank for the asset class similar to how soverign central banks issue overnight interbank funds.

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Beneficial_Crab6954

Great breakdown of MEV/privacy spectrum. The real shift is execution layer abstraction + intent-based trading. Biggest gap remains UX + institutional-grade compliance rails for mainstream adoption of these solutions today

Far-Photograph-2342

Honestly this is a good breakdown 😅 Most people think privacy is just “hide my wallet,” but in DeFi it’s also about execution quality, MEV protection, routing, and who you’re trusting in the middle.

Admirable_Fan_9530

Solid breakdown, MEV is basically an invisible tax most retail users never price in. The real takeaway is there’s no single “privacy fix,” just tradeoffs between trust, UX, and security. Most people will likely default to private RPCs or intent-based systems, while full zk or enclave solutions stay niche but powerful.

50sat

Wow thanks for this. I already reported to blockaind and solidus(tokensniffer back end) but haven't take rugcheck seriously. Go plus dropped off after a blockaid resolution before and I've assumed they were primarily feeders. >From outside, there's no way to know which. Yeah I'm not stressing that. I mean things in the market came to a particular point, I felt pressed to try some ideas I had been kicking around regarding V3 LPs. Several similar (slightly variant) tokens in overlapping times with counter-liquidity moving around between. NGL I think one team had too much and triggered some reporting channel tbh. Solidus reporting every token I made since Base launch with "serial rug pull" etc... So I could be pattern matched, activity threshold trigger, or manually reported then profiled from the address side. As far as other triggers I haven't tried to evade anything. Same IPFS workspace for remix deploys. Same Rabby wallet, etc... I"m not bothered about the token scanner sites TBH. These guys with trusted APIs keep me off of the paymaster, transaction bundlers, and other defi constructs that make much of the volume in defi and don't otherwise care about anything past the current block. MEV bots, etcetera are my usual audience and I clean up after myself. There's enough flags I'm not even worried about the initial trigger, I just need to know what services have clout from the commercial API side. I honestly don't care about UX and 'sniffer ratings' as many of these tokens I'd rather no human buy. I told Solidus which tokens I cared about, and had locks. They removed those tags. Blockaid too. New token though? Tagged immediately.

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MediumLibrarian7100

You’re not wrong that earlier alt cycles had genuine excitement around new technology narratives, but the reason those narratives exploded so hard was because of the market structure and liquidity environment at the time. Back then crypto was far smaller, far more reflexive and almost entirely retail-driven. A handful of influential accounts and communities could collectively manufacture momentum because social media algorithms were different, there were far fewer tokens competing for attention, and capital actually moved on-chain through order books rather than disappearing into ETFs, custodians and institutional wrappers. I was chronically online in crypto for years and watched this transition happen in real time. Projects used to hand influencers massive unlocked allocations or pay them directly in BTC/stables because one coordinated push across CT genuinely could move price. Twitter was actually social media back then, not an engagement maximised news machine flooded with bots, AI slop and recycled narratives. Communities felt smaller and more organic so hype spread much easier and traders would front-run one another trying to catch the next run. That reflexive behaviour is basically what people later labelled “alt season”. The tech narratives mattered, but they mattered inside an environment where liquidity and psychology amplified everything exponentially. Now retail attention is fragmented, most engagement is fake or botted, MEV and automation dominate flows, and institutions absorb huge amounts of liquidity through ETFs and custodial products instead of letting it cascade through the alt market. At the same time influencers lost most of their actual power, which is why projects no longer pay them the insane money they once did. A lot of KOL campaigns today are basically just affiliate marketing wrapped in fake engagement. In many cases the influencer is now the exit liquidity rather than the guy farming the exit liquidity.

MediumLibrarian7100

I am happy you’re making money on selective plays but just so we’re clear that’s not what I’m disputing. The point is the old easy meta (random coins -> crazy broad returns via retail cascades) is structurally dead because liquidity now enters and stays in institutional pipes Price action, narratives, sentiment, etc still exist… but they dominated by MEV etc Most people chasing the old dream won’t replicate past results this is the shift I’m getting at

drunk___monkey

Traditional LPing on Uniswap or Curve has become completely unviable for retail users who don't want to babysit their ranges 24/7. Between MEV bots eating your slippage and rapid volume shifts, you basically get bled out on gas fees trying to manually keep up. If Klad͏ween can actually layer a predictive neural model on top of that to absorb the heavy lifting, it cha͏nges the ga͏me.

MediumLibrarian7100

Leverage is exactly why most retail day traders get destroyed long term. You are not trading against random humans anymore you are trading against bots, market makers, latency advantages, MEV systems, liquidation hunting and firms with vastly superior execution infrastructure. The idea that retail can consistently out trade industrialised algorithmic systems in one of the most manipulated markets on Earth is honestly one of the biggest fantasies crypto still sells people.

MediumLibrarian7100

People hav always said crypto was risky or overvalued but they have not always said the market structure fundamentally changed because it objectively has. A market with a few thousand assets and primitive infrastructure is completely different to one with millions of tokens competing for fragmented liquidity inside an ecosystem dominated by bots, MEV, market makers and institutional infrastructure.

MediumLibrarian7100

You are still thinking like it’s 2017-2021 where finding a “gem” in a small inefficient market could realistically outperform everything else. That environment barely exists anymore bro please listen to me. Millions of tokens now compete for fragmented liquidity while bots, insiders, influencers, market makers and MEV systems dominate attention and execution. The average person is no longer competing against other random retail traders they are competing against industrialised speculation infrastructure. That is the entire point people keep missing.

pavlentyy82

Cool project. One angle I’d be curious about is whether this could be separated from the “new chain” framing and used more as a post-quantum receipt / audit layer. For example: signed records of private state transitions, agent actions, tool calls, or execution events, with STARK proofs attached where needed. A full PQ + ZK chain has huge problems around ordering, MEV, networking, and anonymity leakage, but the receipt/audit layer use case might be much more immediately practical.

pavlentyy82

Honestly, this thread gave me better feedback than I expected. My current conclusion: the crypto pipeline works as a prototype, but the real hard parts are probably not just “PQ sigs + STARKs”. The hard parts are: transaction ordering, MEV resistance, real anonymity instead of best-effort mixing, and keeping AIR constraints practical. Also, fair point on the QChain name. I somehow didn’t think about the QAnon association, but yeah, probably worth renaming before taking it more seriously. Appreciate everyone who pushed on the weak spots instead of just saying “cool project”.

MediumLibrarian7100

I assume you’re using bots etc to front run the 90% then???? Or you’re massively underestimating how manipulated low cap alts are. Bots, MEV, sniper wallets, insiders…. These dominate the market now because thin liquidity makes them easy to control. Most people think they’ve found an edge and then lo and behold they become exit liquidity for faster actors and automated systems 🥺

BEWViD

Thanks a lot for the thoughtful feedback, really appreciate you taking the time to dig into it. 1. Transaction ordering Right now ordering is fairly simple and not really optimized. it's closer to a deterministic queue arrival-based inclusion rather than anything MEV-aware. You're absolutely right that this becomes critical in financial contexts especially with swaps liquidations, and it's something I haven’t tackled yet. At this stage the focus was more on the cryptographic pipeline STARK proofs + verification inside the state machine, but proper ordering mempool design is definitely a big missing piece. 2. Privacy model mixing Totally agree what I have is closer to a “best-effort” privacy layer rather than a formally strong anonymity system. It’s not meant to compete with something like Zcash-style shielding. The goal was mainly to explore how STARK proofs can be integrated for private state transitions, but I’m aware that simple mixing approaches can be vulnerable to de-anonymization depending on context and usage patterns. This is an area I’d like to improve or rethink more fundamentally. 3. Naming QChain That’s a very fair point 😄 I hadn’t really considered the QAnon association when picking the name. Since this is still early and mostly a research project, renaming is definitely on the table if it ever moves beyond that. Thanks again this is exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping for. If you have suggestions specifically around ordering or stronger privacy constructions, I’d love to hear them.

Blackiris-Code

I don't see what you're talking about but I see very clearly what OP described. This is not a MEV sandwich attack as far as I understand.

CrazyAppel

"The transaction is right there to check" Lmfao how ironic, pls go here: [https://etherscan.io/txs?block=25128590&sort=desc&ps=100&p=4](https://etherscan.io/txs?block=25128590&sort=desc&ps=100&p=4) This is the 4th page of the block where these transactions happened. Look for OP's transaction hash: 0x98724339b603a0158aab2f7a2a350ff47f8501f0bbb49e946a6f8d84eb7fc5ad LITERALLY the SAME second, the transaction RIGHT UNDER his transaction is from "jaredfromsubway.eth" MEV bot hahahahaha fucking stupid dumbass telling me "tHe TraNsActiOn is RighT thEre" gtfo hahahaha

CrazyAppel

[https://support.metamask.io/develop/building-with-infura/general-knowledge/mev-protection-infura/](https://support.metamask.io/develop/building-with-infura/general-knowledge/mev-protection-infura/) "Is MEV protection guaranteed? MEV Protection is best effort and not always guaranteed. If transactions don't successfully get picked in the virtual mempool within two slots, then we will refer the transactions back to the network to be included in the public mempool, which would still be susceptible to harmful MEV strategies. This would correspond to the default behavior developers have traditionally experienced. " The 400 usdt went to the liquidity provider, not in the pockets of MM, that's fucking stupid.

quantum_burp

The transaction is right there to check, MM are the ones taking the 400~ usdt And by default, MMs "smart transaction" infra shields you from MEV bots

CrazyAppel

u got sandwiched by a MEV bot. 1. bot sees u make sell order 2. bot instantly makes same order but puts gas fees way higher 3. because of this wOCT price drops 4. your transaction goes through on much lower price (10-15% loss) 5. bot buys back the wOCT and pockets your loss Although yes, you got attacked, and it's not REALLY a slippage/liquidity issue, but it IS relevant. The only reason this MEV bot was able to do this is because it knew there wouldnt be any other transactions happening during this time. You can only assume this risk if the coin has low liquidity. In the end, the issue is with you, YOU decided to swap from wOCT to USDT instead of manually making multiple swaps from wOCT to ETH to TRX to USDT. You may claim that it was an attack and not your fault, but I can also claim you are lazy and risked so much to save some time...

biba8163

Sheep kept on bleating Stablecoins and RWAs. Stablecoin marketcap has 3X since 2021 while ETH price is 1/2 what it was and ETH mainnet fees are down -90% since then. I was laughed at by ETH investors making this point in 2024 who thought $10K ETH was on the menu. Now, USDC issuer Circle is getting its own blockchain with investment and testnet participation from AWS, Anthropic, BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, Visa, etc. How do people still believe in the Stablecoin/RWA narrative? > ETH is a Network Utility Token. That is all ETH is. It's competing with a many competing network utility tokens and many networks and L2s. **These networks are increasingly going to be rails for stablecoins and such (97% of RWA are just stablecoins) and in order for the network to remain competitive they need to remain cheap. ETH is utility of being a rail for tokenized assets doesn't give it a $500 Billion marketcap** -- ETHs value is derived from the money and investors that the pet rock brings. **(November 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1gq6ahm/daily_general_discussion_november_13_2024/lwyql0 > in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. **This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap** or utility and users will move to competing chains. **(September 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

cqm

assets prices are a distraction, providing value is more lucrative. for example, validators providing MEV shielding are earning way more than anyone, swap contracts are collecting tolls on volume, there is plenty of opportunity to do any of that no matter if anything is "mooning" or cratering

PuzzleheadedHuman

Solid writeup. The 150 CEX problem is real and the techniques translate, but the DEX side is a different beast. A few things change the shape entirely: * \~30M liquidity pools to track instead of 150 venues * 80%+ of swap traffic is bot-generated (MEV, sandwich, arb loops, wash routing through your own pools) * "Stale data" works differently: onchain state is fresh by definition, but pool reserves can lag a transaction that just drained liquidity * Cross-exchange median doesn't exist on a low-liquidity pool; the pool IS the price, so MAD-style filters need a different anchor * Wash detection at this scale can't lean on wallet history (doesn't pencil at 30M pools), so aggregate heuristics like reserve-to-volume mismatch and cross-venue divergence at the asset level become the workhorses That's the actual job at CoinPaprika and DexPaprika. Same trust problem, very different statistics.

HSuke

I'm almost certain EIP-1559 will cause problems in the future. Are you familiar with how gas fees work on Avalanche C-Chain and Polygon PoS? They also use EIP-1559, but with higher gas limits higher, and there just wasn't enough demand for those limits. Mathematically, if there is even 1% less demand than the gas target per block over a single day, the gas price will decrease to ZERO (3.7 x 10^-32 actually). And that's what happened to C-Chain and Polygon PoS. Validators quit in mass. On Avalanche, devs implemented a 25 nAVAX minimum fee. On Polygon PoS, validators unanimously colluded to use a minimum priority fee. And that's on 2 networks where validators are already extremely centralized. If this happened on Ethereum, validation would become extremely centralized. Financial Sustainability and Yield Adequacy was the highest concern on the [Ethstaker Staking survey 2025](https://paragraph.com/@ethstaker/staking-survey-2025). > Stakers shared complaints about low income, especially compared to straightforward TradFi investments. Additional frustrations mentioned taxes, MEV favoring larger players, and the price of ETH.

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HypnoticonymLow

I should probably look into stocks as well but I currently make a good amount of money with ETH through my MEV bot, so it's easier to keep it within crypto and just swap for other coins.

Unhappy-Branch8118

Most of that is probably just MEV bots on Uniswap frontrunning everyone. I've been running grid bots on bydfi lately since they've been around 6 years and have a $1M anniversary pool running.

Berrio6

Yeah this is a known issue with MetaMask swaps specifically on cross-chain bridges. The 0.875% is their base fee, but what they don't advertise upfront is that it compounds with bridge fees, LP fees on the destination, and worst of all — their quote engine sometimes uses stale liquidity data, so by the time you execute, you're getting a worse rate than shown. On a 5-figure swap that gap adds up fast. What most people switch to after this exact experience: **For EVM chains (ETH/Base/Arbitrum):** **1inch** or **CoW Swap**. 1inch routes through 200+ DEXs and charges zero platform fee — you only pay the underlying pool fees and gas. CoW Swap batches orders and protects against MEV front-running, which is probably also eating your swaps without you knowing. **For cross-chain specifically:** **deBridge** — no liquidity pools, no slippage, guaranteed rate. It's what I use for anything over $10k. **If you're open to Solana:** **Jupiter** is genuinely miles ahead of anything on EVM for swap execution. Sub-cent fees, splits across 50+ DEXs automatically. Obviously only relevant if you're holding Solana-native assets. The dirty secret is MetaMask's swap UI is optimized for UX, not best execution. It's fine for small trades where convenience matters more than 0.5%. For 5-figures it's the wrong tool. On your question "is this the state of DeFi in 2026" — kind of yes for wallets that charge interface fees, no for dedicated aggregators. The aggregator layer has gotten genuinely good. The problem is wallet UX hides the fee structure. Worth reading if you want to understand why Solana-based DeFi has structurally lower costs: [https://wealthmindlabs.com/solana-staking-rewards-2026.html](https://wealthmindlabs.com/solana-staking-rewards-2026.html) — it's about staking but it explains why the fee architecture is different from EVM. The same reason staking fees are fractional is why swaps on Solana are also much cheaper.

oak1337

Reminder: Hedera doesn't even own it's own source code. Both ETH and Hedera are open sourced. But Hedera's technical roadmap is community led with Linux Foundation, and not gatekept by one single person (Vitalik). Hedera also doesn't have centralized block leaders. You can't bribe the "King Block Leader" to get your transactions re-ordered, like on ETH. Unfair ordering, cheating other users, frontrunning their transactions, sandwich attacking, etc. Hedera uses Leaderless Fair Ordering, with no MEV, no frontrunning, no bribing the leader, etc. Also, a single block leader is a single, centralized point of failure from a security standpoint. Not to mention Hedera has fixed gas fees, priced in USD. Imagine knowing how much you're gonna spend for the next year, instead of not knowing what you'll spend in the next few minutes or hours on ETH. Hedera's EVM Compatibility means any ETH project can migrate to Hedera easily and run better, faster, more secure, and more decentralized.

foretdown

The most profitable ways are also the riskiest. If you don’t want the risk, look into MEV bots. It’s been my safest passive income in crypto.

oak1337

Every metrics website says the Nakamoto is 2. I guess everyone has it wrong except you lol. ETH = Slow finality. Centralized. Complicated/heavy. Unfair ordering with a centralized block leader (MEV/frontrunning/cheating). Not scalable. L2's centralized trash as an attempt to scale. There is literally not one good thing about it. ETH introduced the world to smart contracts. That's it. Thank you. But that only makes it a stepping stone, and for all the other reasons, it will never be the final destination.... Except for ETH maxis, who will never let go of it. It'll die a very slow and painful death because of that. Vitalik says they have to basically rebuild the whole thing to try and make it scale. He says L2's are useless. Honestly that doesn't inspire one bit of confidence about the future. Let alone quantum threats. Good luck. 👍

RefrigeratorLow1259

X is trying to be a bank here itself! A centralised entity running on a supposed decentralized network with outages, MEV, and failed txs! ( Solana! )😏

alt-co

That makes sense as an allocation strategy. The part I would still think about in advance is the source of funds / source of wealth side once you actually rotate BTC or XMR into the banking system. Compliance is very strict when it comes to crypto even at "crypto friendly" banks. For smaller amounts, it's often manageable. For larger amounts, banks usually want a coherent file showing: * how the position was built (trades from an exchange if it's still around & salary slips other proof of income) * which wallets / exchanges were used * Forensic report on your crypto addresses (Scorechain, Chainalysis etc) * how the assets were sold (ideally you prepare this before selling to avoid your funds getting frozen) These are the requirements for a basic case they can get a lot more complex and they usually are for early adopters, privacy coin users, miners, high frequency traders, market makers, MEV bot operators, ICO participants, Early OTC purchases (in cash) etc. BTC is usually easier to document. Monero is possible too, but obviously more complex from a compliance and documentation standpoint. I actually posted on r/Monero about how people can prepare that file in advance if that is useful to you. Something to keep in mind for when you eventually diversify part of your crypto holdings.

ginete_tech

yeah MEV is the clearest proof that on-chain doesn't mean fair. settlement transparency and execution fairness are two completely different things and most people conflate them.

Matthews_Allestra

yeah this is actually a solid take, people fixed custody but just ignored execution. on chain doesn’t automatically mean fair, MEV alone proves that

Matthews_Allestra

yeah this is kinda facts tbh, everyone learned self custody but nobody questions execution. just cuz it’s on chain doesn’t mean you’re not getting played by MEV bots or weird ordering

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jclaslie

The encrypted lending use case mentioned here is actually the biggest takeaway. MEV and front-running are massive issues for large players right now. If FHE can successfully hide collateral liquidation points and loan sizes without breaking the underlying smart contract logic, it removes a massive barrier for institutional capital entering DeFi.

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jawni

yeah, if no one else is trying to use the blockspace then having MEV take up a large amount inefficiently isn't really an issue. If blocks are full then it's more of a problem.

Heypisshands

If it works well it should be adopted by institutions that are slowly rolling out their dlt solutions. Governance and compliance is critical for these institutions, along with security, costs, efficiency and more. I know nothing about lightning but if it ran on hedera it might succeed, abft consensus, sha 384 encryption, falcon signatures (when needed), no front running (MEV), transaction costs from $0.0001, efficiency at 0.000003 kwh per transaction or 3000kwh for 1 billion transactions, compliant and accountable governance, transaction finality around 3 seconds. If lightning matches what hedera can do, then it has a chance imo.

Stats_DontCare0

That 35% number sounds scary, but a lot of “failed” ETH txs aren’t really system failures in the way people think. A huge chunk comes from MEV bots and arbitrage attempts that are designed to fail if conditions change mid-block. So it ends up inflating the stats, especially during volatile periods or when bots are competing hard. Layer 2 interactions and bad gas settings from newer users probably add to it too. Still not great optics though. Even if it’s mostly bot noise, seeing failure rates spike like that doesn’t exactly inspire confidence for regular users.

tornavec

Yes, this figure includes MEV bot activity as well

jawni

It is and it isn't an issue for the chain. It's working as intended, which is what people typically misunderstand, but the intended working procedure is often not optimal in these cases. As block space opens up from gas increase limits or other scaling solutions, it disproportionately gets taken by MEV bots who do pay for the transactions but likely are underpaying compared to how much block space they use and the fees they pay. It's an issue on any chain with a lot of tradable assets and cheap enough fees. https://x.com/bertcmiller/status/1934657926272307332 https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.01462 https://x.com/chrischang43/status/1923835638261907921

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FriendsMade_MeDoIt

This is exactly the kind of thing my group chat would spiral over for a day lol. Someone sees “35% failed” and suddenly everyone’s questioning everything. From what I’ve seen though, a lot of those “failed” txs aren’t normal users messing up, it’s bots and MEV stuff firing off tons of attempts that get invalidated. One of my friends tried doing manual trades during a busy period and yeah, failed txs happen, but nowhere near that level. Still kinda wild if the trend keeps going though. Curious if devs address it soon or if it just ends up being one of those bot-driven noise spikes again.

jawni

If it's mostly MEV bots, then that's kinda to be expected. A lot of people and bots (operated by people) will just spam transactions because they don't care how many times it fails as long as they have a chance to submit a successful transaction. This is probably very similar to what causes a lot of failed transactions on Solana. When Solana had rates of failure similar to this, the vast majority were from an error code given when slippage is exceeded. Most failures (85%) were from traders who would rather have the trade fail to execute than give a bad price, so they submit with low slippage, if it fails no biggie.

Unusual_Brain3815

If privacy is the main priority, I'd separate the category into two buckets: 1. tools that are branded privacy-first 2. tools that are better on execution but still offer private routing Houdini is usually the one people bring up first for the privacy-first side. RocketX is worth looking at from the second bucket. It has private swap routing and MEV-aware routing, but what stood out more to me is that execution seems better when you compare rates, speed, and size. So if the goal is "private enough without giving up route quality," it’s one of the more practical options I’ve seen. Main pitfalls I’d watch for with any no-KYC / anonymous crypto swap service: * price impact vs quoted amount * actual received amount vs expected amount * execution time * transaction limits * whether "privacy" just means no account, or whether the route itself is actually designed to reduce exposure So I wouldn’t just compare on the privacy label. I’d compare on output, time, and limits too, because that’s where a lot of these services separate pretty fast.

atlasayn

Most "crypto AI agents" fall into two buckets: signal generators (what to trade) and execution bots (how to trade). The missing piece is risk governance — how much to risk given current conditions. For analysis: CoinGlass for derivatives data (funding, OI, CVD, liquidations), DefiLlama for on-chain/TVL, and FRED API for macro. Feed those into any LLM and you get decent regime reads. For execution: CoW Protocol if you're on Ethereum (MEV protection, better fills than Uniswap for larger orders). The gap nobody talks about: none of these tools tell you position sizing relative to current market regime. An agent that's correct on direction but 3x oversized during a volatility spike still loses money. That's the layer most people skip.

Z3LUT

All that talk about MEV after the digital asset summit was pretty bearish too.

niloc_w

Does Llamaswap protect you from MEV?

Bluejumprabbit

This usually happens when slippage tolerance is set too high or the MEV extraction is brutal on that particular pool. For six figures, think you can have this escalated to MetaMask support with the transaction hash and screenshot. Going forward, compare multiple DEX aggregators before committing because different routing algorithms hit different liquidity. Some alpha is to use Llamaswap i find their aggregator effective plus gives you a warning on slippage

HSuke

Did you fact check this? > Ethereum has been deflationary for a while now. No, it's been inflationary (though very close to 0%) since the start of 2025 > EIPs like EIP-4844 will further reduce Layer 2 costs of transaction Huh? EIP-4844 was released 2 years ago. Fukasa's update, not Decun's, is what scales blobs reduces L2 Tx cost. Recent L1 gas limit increases also indirectly decrease L2 Tx cost. > Hegotá Upgrade in the 2nd half of 2026 which will focus on Layer 1 security, long-term growth, and quantum-proofing the network security That's not what [Hegota](https://etherworld.co/all-you-need-to-know-about-ethereum-hegota-upgrade/) is about. It completes Glamsterdam's updates (FOCIL from Glamsterdam was moved to Hegota) and focuses on censorship-resistance and MEV-resistance.

alterise

In the [swap transaction](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9fa9feab3c1989a33424728c23e6de07a40a26a98ff7ff5139f3492ce430801f), (ignoring insignificant sums), the weth-usdt lp received $50m usdt, sent $37m worth of weth, the weth-aave lp received $37m worth of weth and sent $37k worth of aave to the user. [**in the very same block**](https://etherscan.io/txs?block=24643151&sort=desc&p=2) (24643151), the [mev transaction](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x45388b0f9ff46ffe98a3124c22ab1db2b1764ecb3b61234e29e5c9732b7fd4ab) immediately after that swap transaction, $14.5k worth of aave was swapped for $37m worth of eth $27m worth of eth was sent to Titan Builder, the block builder, as a bribe, $10m worth of eth was taken by the MEV bot this is the bulk of the lost value. subsequent MEV transactions in the same block systematically arbitraged the rest of the imbalanced LPs, paying Titan Builder their bribes to extract as much as they can. in total, Titan Builder received 16,943.64 eth ($35m) in bribes for that block alone, the rest of the approximately $15m went to the MEV bots.

MyMagicJohnsonIsSick

It’s collusion between the swapper and MEV bot owner. Washing funds.

alterise

No, most of it went to the block builder as a bribe, the remaining went to the MEV bot.

EastCoastGrows

I do understand. That isn't even close to what happened. Titan builder got $34M, two different MEV bots got $12.5M combined, and $3.5M went to swap fees.

schmuhmuhu

Yes... and 99,9999 period % are scams. People get rugged in general or lose money in MEV attacks. It's a shame.

CHL9

how are the humand receiving the MEV bot moneys, and the swap fees, and the titan builder thing (plus what is titan builder)

Logical_Lemming

That's actually a complicated topic. [This article](https://hackernoon.com/ethereum-block-building-the-hidden-economy-behind-every-transaction) is a pretty good primer on how block production and MEV works in modern-day Ethereum. Back in the day it was the big mining pools who would benefit most from mistakes like these. These days it's more complicated. The MEV searchers, block builders, and validators all get a cut. But ultimately it comes down to: can you develop algorithms that are smarter and faster than the algorithms already developed by some of the smartest people in the world?

Logical_Lemming

Titan builder got $34M, two different MEV bots got $12.5M combined, and $3.5M went to swap fees.

Ourcrypto_news

Vitalik pushing for big FOCIL and encrypted mempools is all about **reducing centralization in block production**. Keeping block builders from seeing transactions early helps level the playing field and protects the network from MEV extraction and front-running. Exciting to see Ethereum continue experimenting with fairness at the protocol layer.

Boring_Tailor_5350

Yeah bro setup. Personal MEV bots, zero impermanent loss, and steady rewards really put it in a different league compared to typical yield farming.

Long-Scholar-2113

The personal MEV bots in 2.0, zero impermanent loss, and those steady daily rewards make it stand out from the usual yield farming crowd.

AnneCodeX

Honestly happy I listened to my friend about MEV staking

Pitiful_Fortune_3300

it's easy to see why with things like AI powered MEV bots, high APRs, and user friendly tools. 

GPThought

encrypted mempools are the one im most excited about honestly. right now MEV bots are just front-running regular users on every single swap and most people dont even realize its happening. ePBS and FOCIL are nice for validator decentralization but encrypted mempools is what actually protects your average degen from getting sandwiched

garybaws

Yess finally no more jaredfromsubway MEV bot

External-Neck-7278

I’ve been on MEV 2.0 for a bit now. Returns have been steady so far, and the daily payouts feel smooth

ToeInside3570

Hello mate ,How long have you been using MEV 2.0, and what kind of returns have you been seeing so far?

External-Neck-7278

I’d recommend MEV 2.0 to anyone wanting consistent, hands off income from their crypto holdings.

Full-Two-5917

Kalqix is a high-speed zkDEX • First vApp • Private, verifiable trades • No custody, no MEV