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pickleBoy2021

Last place on earth to go. You will fall for cult scam coins. “Oh that sounds good!” Stick with BTC, ETH, SOL. Projects that are vested or minimal/no VC. Have TVL or billions in DeFi and activity. DeFi llama will show you protocols- activity and rank. Like AAVE has $60B and does borrowing and lending. Bigger then most the 💩. Don’t believe in hype and trade carefully. Crypto the price always comes back. Watch for FOMO. Avoid KOL on YouTube. They get paid to shill you coins. Then you are down and crushed. If you want to put money all in. Put it in stables. Earn yield. Then deploy carefully. Most projects will go to zero. Even great projects like Link are not fully vested and the price never moves. Learn FDV and market cap. Good luck.

MaximumStudent1839

> Everyone was cheering institutional investors, Without the ETFs, this market would have long been in serious bear territory from all the serial VC/KOL rape and early BTC whales dumping billions on the market daily. Yeah, no. Like it or not, non-crypto native, more traditional funds are more PvE at this point than most of the elements within crypto who are accustomed to rape newcomers.

Captain_Fredl

Asking the same rn. Maybe because VC‘s fucking us

AeonPeter

Look for the project with the strongest community and believers, do not blindly trust what VC’s or KOL’s are telling you. Also token unlocks as each unlock is selling pressure of the team dumping on you 🙄

StacysMom-_-

Don't project. If the standard is “institutions won’t touch anything that can go to zero,” then explain why venture capitalists exists, why PE buys distressed assets, why junk bonds are used by pension funds, why hedge funds hold commodities, and why growth stocks with no cash flow get trillion-dollar valuations. The world’s biggest money allocators don’t avoid risk, they price it. The difference between a degen and an institution isn’t risk aversion, it’s structuring and time horizon. Capital doesn’t chase safety. Capital chases asymmetric payoff. Bitcoin proved that model already, the rest of crypto is just whether new narratives can earn that same trust curve. “institutions don’t touch things that can go to zero” funny because history shows the exact opposite. BlackRock, Fidelity, Wellington, Goldman, CalPERS, the whole crew were neck deep in dot-com companies that literally went to zero: Pets.com Webvan Global Crossing eToys Excite@Home Lycos (acquired then value collapsed so basically zero) And those weren’t retail gamblers, those were institutional allocations from pension funds, sovereign money, and the same firms now buying Bitcoin ETFs. Institutions didn’t stop investing in tech after many of their dot-com investments went to zero either… They just priced risk better the next cycle. Dot com wipeouts paved the way for: Amazon Google Meta Nvidia Salesforce Now imagine they looked at those stocks and said NO WAY, that's too much risk! Remember our last stocks that went to zero! I'll say again, check your emotions at the door, trading and investing is not for the emotional weak. You pretend too sound like you understand “institutional money flow,” but you're actually describing a world that has never existed. If institutions avoided assets with a nonzero chance of going to zero, VC, tech, biotech, commodities, growth equities, and crypto wouldn’t exist as asset classes.

magus-21

> No, you were literally saying about lending money to stupid people, which shouldn’t not concern you as It is against collateral. In my **very first comment**: "The reason why companies are offering 8% is because they are juicing the returns with their own VC money to attract customers, but the risk is that you won't be able to withdraw it. Just ask the people who got burned by TerraLuna." >Systematic risk exists anywhere, including bonds And the lower interest rates in bonds reflects lower total risk, not just default risk.

magus-21

> Apparently you can earn like 8-10% on stablecoins which is way more than my bank gives me (literally nothing) No, you can't. A HYSA is 4%. Anything higher than that represents higher risk. The reason why companies are offering 8% is because they are juicing the returns with their own VC money to attract customers, but the risk is that you won't be able to withdraw it. Just ask the people who got burned by TerraLuna.

nugymmer

Not a chance. The cycle has completed. If you want to sell, wait for a rebound...or not. I doubt we will see much over $120k again. And the market doesn't care a fuck about alts, and why should the market care about VC backed shitcoins?

vengeful_bunny

Well said. Same in the VC world. Once you show a demo or an MVP, they can't fantasize anymore that it will take over the world. Dreams sell, not (actual) business plans.

aaaanoon

This should mean only trash projects with exorbitant dev funds or VC funding are listed on Binance. Turns out it's true

biba8163

> Bitcoin belongs to 2 pools. ETH maxis think Triple Halving, Supply Crunch and Ultra-Sound money are real things but cannot grasp what a mining pool is. A mining pools consists of thousands of miners from across the globe who control their own hashpower but pool it for greater and more stable rewards; they still have the ability quickly change pools or go to a new pool at any time and they have done so in the past. On the other hand, you can easily take control of ETH through centralized players LIDO, Coinbase, Kraken, Binance, etc. Most of Ethereum nodes are hosted on the 3 big cloud providers. **And according to ETH's lord and savior Vitalik's own principles of decentralization, ETH is NOT DECENTRALIZED** because the majority of the supply is premined and gifted to founders, developers and VCs who funded its development and these insiders can stake their premined coins to enrich themselves even more to perpetuity. > Credible Neutrality: Essentially, a mechanism is credibly neutral if just by looking at the mechanism’s design, it is easy to see that the mechanism does not discriminate for or against any specific people. The mechanism treats everyone fairly, to the extent that it’s possible to treat people fairly in a world where everyone’s capabilities and needs are so different. Anyone who mines a block gets 2 ETH is credibly neutral, Bob gets 1000 coins because we know he’s written a lot of code and we should reward him is not. - **Vitalik Buterin on Credible Neutrality as one of the guiding principles of decentralization** https://nakamoto.com/credible-neutrality/ 72 Million or 60% of ETH was premined and gifted to the Founders, Developers and VCs. **Ethereum VC investors from 2014** - Konstantin Lomashuk and Vasiliy Shapovalov of Cyber Fund (VC) - Adjacent Venture Capital - Artichoke Capital - Blockchain Assets - Compa Capital - CRVN Capital - Flux Capital

JustStopppingBye

I don’t need your ai slop. Pyth is a VC scam.

trillionSdollarstech

1. Loss of confidence since Trump can crash the market at any moment with just a tweet puking his last whim. 2. Loss of confidence after last weekend market manipulation (the crash was mainly triggered by people using a flaw in Binance's pricing method) and Trump's insiders profiting while retail lost. 3. All real usage adoption of the technology is occurring on Ethereum whereas retail was promised by years of Solana and Ripple VC's propaganda that it would occur on their bogus blockchains. Here again, retail loses. 4. The Clarity Act is stalled by democrats who introduced a version that would ban decentralized finance.

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mrjune2040

Ethereum is doing great. It's transactional volume and TVL on main-net and the entire L2 ecosystem blow everything else out of the water. Vitalik is about the only guy in crypto that has his head in the right place ethically and professionally speaking (ie with genuine commitment to the protocol and it's relation to users). He's not a VC shithead that's trying to pump and dump the price with a short-term window in mind, and his motives are not financial (unlike half the crypto-sphere). You're probably upset solely because of price action, but even then it's doing just fine, it literally hit an all-time high two months ago—and it's the second biggest asset by a long way. Long live Vitalik.

MaximumStudent1839

Understanding the dynamics I said is how you avoid ending up at McDonalds. Every market is about supply and demand. Bitcoin was created in reaction to govt printing money to save overleveraged institutions. In crypto, we printed infinite altcoins to save crypto zombie companies and VC portcos from meeting their eventual market outcome. You must be insane to think bidding all these altcoins worth massive supply overhang is going to get you anywhere. There is also limited reason to bid alts over BTC if BTC has a better adjusted R&R while alts are constantly framed as having an expiration date.

MaximumStudent1839

Here is a contrarian take. You need BTC to top for alts to run. Otherwise, the R&R always favor sitting on BTC and never touching alts. If the SP500 outperforms every stock in the short/long run, no one wants to do stock picking anymore. The old BTC dominance needs to go up for alt season makes no sense. Why? The new marginal BTC buyer is coming via ETF. They aren't going to come to CEXs to rotate downward. The higher the BTC goes, it doesn't necessarily mean more dry powder for alts. For an alt to run, it needs to find a better footing in balancing its demand and supply equilibrium. They need to drastically cut supply overhangs. Protocol needs to be leaner, e.g., aggressively cut down emissions from staking etc., start laying off as much as possible to cut down expenses, etc. The market needs to stop pushing VC garbage loaded with huge supply overhang from unlocks and constantly high emissions to keep TVL. But this space is run by VC/KoL/Dev communism. So all these simple things are too much to ask. In real capitalism, like stocks, all these obvious things would have been easily implemented. See how the tech stocks aggressively restructure themselves as they got their bounce off the lows from the Fed rate hike tightening cycle.

XysterU

Right, so when the USD collapses in value (inevitable with its runaway debt) Bitcoin will also collapse in value because the risk appetite will vanish and tech will be destroyed because VC capital will dry up. You're saying that Bitcoin value grows for the exact opposite reason that gold value grows. I think the gold investors are right this investment cycle.

mrjune2040

I think that you’re thinking of 2021. The total value of monthly VC funding raises right now are about 25% of what they were back then.

nugymmer

What is a VC coin?

harra23

You fail to realise that if you are on reddit. Then you are retail. If you are still bag holding alts from last cycle. You are retail. Retail is already here and is already fully allocated to VC alt shit coins. Every cycle the participants mature and this cycle if you haven’t realised that nobody is coming to buy your heavy bags of VC coins then I don’t know what to tell you. If retail is coming then they came earlier this year to straight up meme coins like squirrel coins because everyone understands that unless it’s bitcoin it is a shit coin. So if you are going to gamble on anything it might as well be fart coin because everyone understands that they are starting on a level playing field and no one is buying anyone’s bags from last season. VC coins are dead.

pickleBoy2021

They can still be part of the issue. Depends on the platform. You can receive but there are still spreads and arbritrage across chains/platforms. Tx that take longer than milliseconds which is fine on slow days. It’s not their fault but this is an issue that was in tradfi for years till it got arbed away. You can’t deny the billions worth of tokens that are not vested. They have dream jobs and they’re rich. Comfortable. Outside of crypto their model would be a target. VC’s would fund competition to challenge them. As time passes it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

AeonPeter

Do you mean blockchain or what to buy? Dca, long term, mainly BTC! Patience, and if you want to try alts, just strong communities with Lindy Effect (with history +2 years). Check the SPX6900 if you feel like to, I am not telling to to buy, just study and see by yourself. You can also go the ‘new tech revolution’ kind of alts but these are mainly VC’s and KOL’s shilling their bags to dump on you. Good luck!

Halvinz

All I know is that since this fraud started the office of presidency, crypto has died for little guys while corruption has taken off, and the only people profiting are his inner circle and VC's who poured ill-gotten money into his campaign to get him elected. Do better next time, America. Do better.

my-little-puppet

Most, if not all, alts are VC/dev supply controlled farms. Stop buying them

SoggyGrayDuck

VC money is changing things and I don't like it. I suspect they know how to capitalize on momentum and spikes in a way they keep the cash and smooth out the timeline somehow. It's why it's starting to follow the stock market l, soon we'll see 10% yearly gains just like every other asset they have their fingers in.

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OrangePillar

Knots has a single maintainer who has done dangerous things to Bitcoin in the past. You are trusting him mightily not to do anything bad going forward because of a VC-funded campaign against Core.

MaximumStudent1839

In every market, price is determined by the balance of buying power vs selling power. For the four-year cycle to be over, you need the buying power to swarm out all the sellers who believe in the four-year cycle. It is only over if the dominant buyers and holders don't believe in it anymore. Just like VC overhang on tech alts, this will also be an overhang on BTC. You can't cheat it. Time-based capitulation is the only way out.

SoggyGrayDuck

It definitely changed with VC entering the space

pickleBoy2021

Lots those spaces were run by KOL’s or influencers who were selling ref links or got paid to shill. Builders, devs, VC’s who actually fund and build would jump on for events like the FTX but usually they were working. They are more likely sharing on discord, twitter posts, podcasts, and writing articles. Big difference between the two groups and the quality of alpha hour going to get.

Bino_i_told_u_so

Great project! Q4 will be good with full mainnet launch. I like that it was a fair launch and has no VC funding. Max 10m circulation and all 10m on the market with just 3% left for sale. True unicorn potential with that speed, 0.1 second finality and noob proof web based dev kit.

memegalerie

There are many. I can share the one we're doing. honestly have our model has risen a lot im popularity amongst bitcoiners which is [lendasat](https://lendasat.com/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=comment&utm_campaign=launch&utm_content=post26) we enable customers to get liquidity from their bitcoin if they need it without selling their bitcoin trough DLCs and multisig on bitcoin. We have a lot of compition and its a tough market tho. Mostly VC backed companies like strike which to it in a custodial way are often being used.

blockunchained

I think this is largely correct. In general, as bitcoiners we're way too bullish, and that means we tend to be "too early" for our bitcoin business ideas, which is the worst timing possible for a startup. We're 15+ years in and there are still very few examples of revenue-driving bitcoin startups, especially startups that drive enough revenue to justify VC investment. HOWEVER, if you're absolutely and truly driven by a passion for participating in the inception of the bitcoin industry, more so than you are concerned with maximizing your stack/quality of life, then it's still a good idea to start/join a bitcoin startup. It's exciting, you're learning things that no one else is, lots of crazy stories, and still enough money flying around to make a decent living. And if we're right about this whole bitcoin thing, one of these days we're not going to be too early, the timing's going to be \*just right\*, and if you have a great idea well executed, you're going to do A LOT better than if you'd prioritized mining fiat.

ManBearPig9220

yeah, this cycle’s not about legacy alts like ADA or DOT mooning on hype (there are no solid narratives i. those ecosystems now). the market has started rewarding projects with tangible revenue models that directly benefit token holders via yields, fees, buybacks, and governance (but mostly the first three). it’s selective, capital’s flowing to protocols where emissions are backed by actual earnings, not just VC pumps and old 2017 narratives (“banks are going to use XRP” no they’re not). ethereum’s supply shock is real, the narrative is tangible, adoption is actually increasing, but alts need more than narratives; they need mechanics that compound value over time. here’s how some standouts are doing it right (yes, my bags): • Aerodrome (AERO): on Base, this DEX pulls in huge fees ($21M+ in recent epochs) and funnels 100% back to veAERO holders through emissions, bribes, and voting power. it’s why AERO’s steady at ~$1.15 amid growing TVL, real accrual beats speculative bets. • Moonwell (WELL): DeFi lending on moonbeam/base, where protocol fees from borrows/interests feed into staking rewards and governance for WELL holders. Even at $0.023 (down from ATH ~$0.30), it’s building with emissions tied to genuine demand, creating sustainable holder value.  • Curve (CRV): classic stable DEX with veCRV lockers claiming a slice of billions in TVL fees (inflation cut to 5% for longevity). At $0.77 (way off ATH $15.37), it’s still a fundamentals play, holders get direct yields that outlast hype cycles.  • Katana (KAT): this new DeFi-only L2 focuses on sharing chain revenue back with its users through a flywheel that recycles chain revenues (sequencer fees, Vaultbridge yields, AUSD treasury returns, and chain-owned liquidity or CoL) back into pools and vaults, boosting APYs for active users. CoL alone is at $340k, providing permanent liquidity and routing earnings (like $165k+ in recent donations) to LP positions on Sushi/Morpho. the staking model: stake KAT for vKAT (ve-style), then vote to direct incentives, earn app fees, bribes, and exit fees. chain-wide veTokenomics that accrues real yield to holders as TVL grows. pre-TGE, rewards are stacking via quests and campaigns, but post-launch, this setup ensures holders capture the network’s growth directly.

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-LoboMau

That's spot on. Most are just VC-backed projects designed to create exit liquidity for early investors, not genuine innovation or solving real problems.

bryanchicken

Get a holy trinity for investment. AP or Patek better than VC in that regard

absurdcriminality

Follow the VC money. Look for projects that got hundreds of millions in funding and start from there

SoggyGrayDuck

Unfortunately I feel like VC money now controls the price vs actual supply and demand. Yes it's a bit more volatile than the stock market but they basically follow the same path now

Human_Ad8651

Hyper liquid I don’t own any because exchanges in the US don’t want it listed. I’d need a VPN and another wallet and account. Next best it will most likely be my #1 hold/long play. It’s the largest perpetuals dex I believe. They do constant token buybacks. It actually is profitable. Like more profitable than only fans, Nvidia or Facebook in terms of rev per employee. It’s an actual functioning business with a core customer base. It has its growth pains, but I think it’s like buying binance at $50 way back when. So yeah - eth has a lot of stable coins on it which is a really good use case. SUI could cycle up this q4/q1 - if it collapses in price like solana did in 2022 I could see it building and front running growth and more users migrated to it. But SUI is a big if and has a lot of VC selling pressure potentially. Hype buys its coins on the reg. Eth is steady eddy for stables.

cavolfiorebianco

here is the CEO saying the quiet part out loud [https://x.com/Pledditor/status/1687141159951286272](https://x.com/Pledditor/status/1687141159951286272) you can also consult ZachXBT report finding insider trading and basically a rug [https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1683512534811172864](https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1683512534811172864) Defi report on it (this is the latest one there is also an older one) [https://x.com/DefiSquared/status/1813506473915466142](https://x.com/DefiSquared/status/1813506473915466142) this is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg btw... like even just by doing the basic math is clear to anyone with a functioning brain brain that this is a soft rugpull that just traps people into fake pumps to milk them for liquidity for the infinite supply... and that is just the math... then there is the insider trading, the fact that devs are from ex DAO crypto scams, the fact that the app itself is full of illegal gambling content or just straight up scams or money grabs, the fact that not a single process was kept (70k orbs by 2025 while we have around 1k and 1 billion verified by 2024 while we had 5 mil that is not a miss that is a lie to generate hype), the fact that the ID is fundamentally illegal in all EU jurisdiction and the fact that it doesn't work is not unique at all... I can keep going... but anyway I don't think u should ask for "opinions" since there are a lot of shillers around some of them are even paid discord members from their official discord that just go around and shill this scam... and is so funny because the main argument used is "this is not just a coin" which is literally what every single crypto scam community member will tell you in order to scam you XDXD I dunno I just find it funny... btw this is not a new scam... there are thousands of these they are all the same... the real problem here is only 1 Sam Altman... without Sam Altman there would be no worldcoin... 1 billion market cap from VC? XDXD wouldn't have reached 10k... there would have been literally no founding what so ever, and if they somehow managed to start the rug it wouldn't have died way faster, they keep milking his name again and again but reality is that he was just in some investor group that put money in random startups and ended up in this garbage likely due to mondane Silicon Valley nepotistic friendly reasons... wasn't for him not a single person would have bought in we wouldn't even be talking about it it would be some forgotten scam coin at the bottom of coinmarketcap next to "pissshitcoin" lol just another low float high FDV cyrptoscam move along... cash out the free stuff tho if u have any nothing wrong with that

Illustrious-Boss9356

I'm sorry I offended you. You're right I'm a simpleton investor. But if you just take a look at how many millionaires that Alts have created (outside of VC Insiders and Founders) and compare it to how many millionaires BTC has created, it's not close as to which has been the better investment. You do you though! And BTW- It's also funny that you singled out ADA as I happen to be a believer in the Cardano chain and actually develop on it. I'm pumped for Midnight and have a small exposure to ADA (been staked for almost 6 years).

Commercial-Shape5561

This is objectively true imo, almost all of these rug pull VC “utility” coins are in reality completely useless

slasherzx

Ergo top 500 coin, fair launched, POW, smart contract, diverse Dapps, bridged to BTC, Doge, Eth, BNB and ada through their homegrown decentralized bridge (Rosenbridge), no VC.

formerFAIhope

Still cautiously believing in KAS. Kaspa core endorsed/recognised upgrades are coming end of this year. Then 2026 is the year of establishing itself. This is the closest retail gets to a "VC round" of investing.

OneDigitNumber

For SPX: there was no pre-mine, no founder (who stuck around anyways, that we know of), no foundation, no company, no VC, etc., It basically started at zero too. The original dev locked up the liquidity pool for decades and burnt their supply. If they had any other wallets, surely they are mostly or completely sold off by now. If they wanted to make a bunch of money they definitely wouldn't have deleted the socials and telegram early on as well (caused a panic and selloff, which they surely knew was going to happen),

Narwhal-Public

Because of VC pump n dumpin like horowitz

dunc2k

so the ones with VC and insider vesting unlocks, and locked staking you can see the upside in, but the one with no vesting unlocks, that worked out how to implement smart contracts on UTXO and has native liquid non-custodial staking 'seems overvalued'? the marketing is working on you

yvthousands

1000% in almost all cases pure vaporware with zero substance (but a lot of VC bags to offload)

yvthousands

Thanks for the response, I appreciate youre perspective. I think what you say was true years ago, but no longer. Tech alts are now completely inflated due to the capital formation happening exclusively via VC over the past 4-5 years. They launch at 5-10 billions with no fundamentals, no revenues (tbh debatable tech) and from there it's down only to make the initial investors their 100x. Look into organic memecoins which can be multicycle eg SPX, APU and others. you can check their dynamics onchain objectively here [https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1nltkac/my\_thesis\_for\_memecoins\_and\_why\_i\_allocated\_in\_a/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1nltkac/my_thesis_for_memecoins_and_why_i_allocated_in_a/)

yvthousands

Totally. Just memecoins have beeter memetics and are better at community building, so imo they have an advantage (and are more honest) than the VC-backed tech vaporware launching at billions and using retail as a pure exit liquidity

SurprisedByItAll

Solana is more a VC pet project with like 98% of the offered tokens being in their hands unlike ethereum that distributed those initial coins allowing you to understand who they're really trying to benefit.

No_Brilliant731

And lets remember that a lot of "real altcoins" are a bunch of VC companies creating fake coins with fake printed money. "Memecoins", or in the case of SPX6900, "Cultcoins" has way more room for expansion, since real people are after them, and not just big companies who are waiting a time to dump tokens and move on to the next project. So yeah, Cultcoins have won way past "real altcoins" nowadays.

yvthousands

Not sure if it's sarcastic, but in any case I appreciate your comment. I mean, reddit really hates anything "memecoins", but I still haven't understood if it's because they actually have an original opinion, or if they have just been brainwashed by the VC-complex over these past 3-4 years.

amderve

Fair, I get why it sounds like shilling — most alt mentions are shilling. But I actually agree with you on Algorand and most “utility” coins — utility alone doesn’t save price if there’s no real demand loop or scarcity. That’s why I found GRAND interesting — not saying it’s perfect, but the tokenomics are more like “time mining” with fixed daily issuance + some deflation mechanics. Feels closer to BTC’s difficulty concept than just another VC dump. Anyway, I’m mostly watching to see if any of these models survive the next bear cycle. History says 90% won’t.

Drogon__

So it's another VC pump and dump, got it.

NoStress42069

No Bitcoin is digital gold You wouldn’t carry a brick of gold around and shave pieces off to pay for things Bitcoin is an appreciating asset now that VC is involved Dollar stable coins just makes sense Use the blockchain security but other chains make more sense … regular users want easy not learning

Makina__Fi

The raise was done through a SAFT, which means they receive tokens. Importantly, the terms were the same $35M FDV that the community gets access to through Tickets in the Priority ICO. There were no discounted private rounds or special carve-outs. This way, alignment is clear, lets launch at the same valuation and a low FDV. Backers include cyber. fund, Interop VC, Steakhouse, and Bodhi Ventures. Their support helps with long-term stability, but the launch path is structured so that token holders and SAFT investors share the same valuation basis. If you dig into our twitter you can get a longer list of investors (people like Seedphrase and Cozomo)

ConsciousSkyy

Another VC shitcoin that generates barely any revenue.

mrjune2040

2017 was when it reached critical mass imo. Coinbase had 15 million users accounts and 1 billion in revenue that year (and halted all VC funding due to its success), Grayscale had accumulated roughly 400k Bitcoins and was the first to apply for an ETF product, Gemini was a major player and launched a futures market with CBOE, Circle launched its Pay product and USDC was born the following year. There was so much happening at both a corporate and retail level by 2017 that imo Bitcoin went well beyond the binary bet of whether it would fail or succeed. And at the bare minimum it was absolutely a 'serious financial asset'. 20/21 was a second wave of mass retail but a significant amount of institutional and retail adoption had already occurred in the years prior. If anything this was the period of 'mass retail' at a far greater level than years earlier, but so many of the major corporate and institutional products were already in place before that bull run.

DangerHighVoltage111

They are not exactly standing on the plaza shouting we did it, you know? But there are hints. For example we know Blockstream got a shitload of VC money which enabled them to hire many of the core developers which were important in crippling Bitcoins throughput. Adam Back sounds completely different before and after that, regarding bigger blocks and 0-conf for example. There is also a link between theymos and adam back important in controlling the narrative. And Tether and blockstream are good friends and invested in each other and we know Tether was not backed in the past and Tether had its first big print during the fork. It surely looks like a combined effort to strip Bitcoin of its p2p capability but there was just as much hubris and false understanding from the community.

Realistic_Fee_00001

>This sounds like all those religions which promise something and then make excuses when it doesn't materialize. No it sounds like every other revolution people didn't understand at first. > It was tried and failed Again, false. It was tried and crippled. The narrative changed when Bitcoins transactions became expensive and unreliable and that was a direct cause of the small blockers winning the year long scaling war. And they won because they had millions on VC money and bought and censored the two main spaced where Bitcoin discussion happened at the time. >"Write numbers on a spreadsheet and buy stuff with it." The banks do nothing else. but they maintain full control while Bitcoin as p2p cash would remove this control and spread it to almost everyone.

Designer-Beginning16

The relief is amazing. There’s beauty in the simplicity of just owning Bitcoin (digital property). All the rest of the crypto market is moonshots, scams, and VC-like types of investments. Consolidating into BTC is the wise move to make IMO.

Previous_Course_6951

“Satoshi’s wallet could sink crypto.” With that mindset, you’re cutting yourself off from high-return potential. Crypto is a high-risk/high-reward game, and studied properly, the risks can be reduced while still keeping the upside. It seems you’ve gone down the VC/tech-utility path, which is why I’m suggesting the memecoin thesis. It fixes all the BS in this industry. And it’s been playing out, as memecoins have been the most dominant category over the past few years and it’s not slowing down. The majority of people want to gamble for higher returns. Funny money is gonna turn into serious money soon.

cascading_disruption

I mean after all these cool VC coins like SEI, SUI, AVAX, Luna, Trump, Melania, Aster, Hype, etc. that pumped and dumped on the retail who's got the time to buy the real things from top 10... When alt season tho?

AnoAnoSaPwet

Honestly, if you're invested in something that is technology-based you should be fine. We're in the pre-adoption phase currently, focus is primarily on getting BTC/ETH normalized (we now have BitMine doing VC crowdfunding for ETH, like Michael Saylor does for BTC), XRP is getting adopted for stablecoins for the new EuroDollar, Solana/Cardano just went live for ETFs/ETPs, it will be a fair amount of time yet before we get into mainstream adoption. I wouldn't worry about all the "4-year cycle" mumbo jumbo that everyone talks about. Once the legal/regulatory walls come down, there's going to be more market liquidity to go around and when institutional investors get the go ahead to go buck wild in the market, they'll be buying up everything else.  There will be almost no spot that you could park money, that won't be successful, as long as you can hold out for it?  When blockchain industries come looking for the best technology, they aren't going to be buying up cryptocurrencies that can't handle the workload. They'll be buying the best tech for the lowest price and there is a fuck ton of those. 

LazyLifeguard

Loopring and don't forget Algorand. All them scammed their users, either through the foundations, angel investors etc., there is a reason 99,9% of coins have premined coins and foundations and everything, even in the top 10. There is only one coin without a premine or allocation to VC's like that, it. However, to be fair I list all of them, which are not all in the top 10 anymore: BTC DOGE LTC MONERO And yes, I am aware Satoshi could wake up tomorrow.

biba8163

First almost everything is VC backed including XRP and ETH which were funded by VCs. Second, you don't have some type of formula based on some analysis you do about the quality of VC backing, the unlock schedule, etc for choosing the right Altcoin to invest in. If you made a ton of money getting in early on a project that took off, it's more luck than any type of research you do or your skill. People generally tend to get lucky on some Alt and will lose money thinking they have a strategy that works. The vast majority of Alts lose money so the more Alts you buy/trade + volatility, statistically you're going to end up losing money. Lets take 4 projects that entered the market around the same time between 2019-2020. DOT was $6 range, HBAR was $0.07 range, ALGO was in $1 range and SOL in the $0.10 range. All projects doing massive unlocks and dumping tokens into circulating supply. - DOT has dumped 2X the circulating supply and is LOWER than in 2019 when it entered the market. - HBAR has dumped 4X the circulating supply and has gone UP 4X from 2020 which isn't bad until you consider BTC and ETH went up more than 10X. - ALGO has dumped 8X the circulating supply and is below 2019 and 2020 prices - SOL has dumped 12X the circulating supply but is UP from $0.40 to $200 Everybody tries to act like they were bullish on SOL but EVERY single analysis that was done on SOL when it was pennies in 2020 was that the token unlock schedule was going to dump it to kingdom come. Meanwhile DOT and ALGO price have dumped to kingdom come over 5-6 years and HBAR has measly gains over 5 years considering it was a tiny marketcap nobody knew about back then. > Solana Unlocks 11.3 Million SOL Tokens secretly and then tries to cover up (SOL $0.60) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g9mf24/solana_unlocks_113_million_sol_tokens_secretly/ > When it evaluated for 20 something cents, and then opened at around $1 on binance, I noped out of there. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g9mf24/comment/fovqamq/ > Solana (+441%) dump is going to be historic. Imagine paying over $1 when pre sale paid $0.04-$0.20. (SOL $1) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/fykd3i/solana_441_dump_is_going_to_be_historic_imagine/

hduynam99

Just looked at it, it is a new coin so not much data to analyze, it also doesn't have any VC, look like a community build. For this I will put it as a very risky one. It might pump in short term but for long term, I don't see the value. Play it Safe.

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I missed the boat on it, so I wont be buying any. I don't think it will be successful long term (5+ years). Hype is just better: No VC control, fair token distribution, community-first image. But hype should be dropping soon due to aster and plus other factors coming up. Aster is insider-heavy, not a fair drop, more centralized in both governance and execution. I like using hype and jup for on chain exchanges. curious to see coinbase make one with a base token. I would probably buy that if they decide to.

my-little-puppet

Depends on what you hold, most alts are just VC/dev supply controlled farms

RamoneBolivarSanchez

This is coming from the guy who shills Temu phones claiming they’re web3 hardware. He also trash talked Bitcoin in the past and even Solana’s very own nft communities even though they’re the ones who kept Sqlana afloat after FTX collapsed. Solana has less than 1,000 validators, and absolutely zero slashing risk - so staking is literally larp and SOL as no security value relative to the network. The cofounder Raj had like 10,000,000 extra SOL in a side wallet that was introduced into circulation years ago when people called him out. Running a validator on Solana is a permissioned and KYC process with the Solana foundation and they have to subsidize the voting fees for the first year because it’s so expensive and exclusive to even run a validator in the first place ($850,000+ at current prices). It’s totally not centralized to have to ask for permission, approval, and complete KYC to run a node, right??? My last fun tidbit of Solana info is for the inflation! Take a look at Solana’s all time price chart and then switch it to market cap instead of price. Take note of what happens. The market cap is 2x the market cap of Solana at $260 at its previous ATH about 4 years ago. This means Solana has printed about 80-100% more tokens in the past 4 years just to get to where it is market cap wise. They’re literally doubling the supply in short periods of time just to inject more exit liquidity into the market on the heads of new retail users. Now ask yourself why you’re investing in crypto in the first place? Is it for decentralization? Solana isn’t that and they’ve mocked it throughout the past cycle. What about inflation and the powers that be infinitely printing money and devaluing the purchasing power of regular people? Nope, Solana is so inflationary the supply is arguably increasing faster than garbage fiat like USD. Remember when you’re buying Solana you’re buying locked up bags from VC slimeballs like Kyle Samani who are structuring Solana ETF’s to effectively offload locked funds that have yet to be fully vested. You’re buying the foundations tokens that they conveniently *find* and pump up with inflationary tokenomics. You’re buying a coin whose team coordinated full chain downtime from a Discord with 6 guys in it.

Fast-Builder-4741

Unfortunately, ETH is a pile of shit compared to ADA. It may have the VC's on board, but is slow, clunky, expensive and continually copying what Cardano has accomplished.

Sea_Implement4018

This season is fundamentally different from 2017 and 2021 because... Enough people have been absolutely wrecked by the asinine bullshit going on in the crypto community that they are starting to see it for what it really is. VC jackasses stealing from plebs. Industrialized theft on a global scale. 99% of all crypto is undefendable garbage. Anyway, yeah... shitcoin roulette is spot on.

romangiler

Different game… too many coins and not enough players. It’s just a bunch of liquid funds trading back and forth between their portfolios. With chains like Story and Aptos who have founders selling and running away and basically slow rug everyone, we’re unlikely to see any real alt season unless it’s sanctioned by the VC and the Market Maker… loook at LayerZero - real usecase, real tangible infrastructure, real revenue… real shitty Price Action.

slasherzx

Ergo is fair launched, POW, no VC, smart contract enabled, connected to BTC, DOge, BnB, ADA, ETH through RSN (their own homegrown bridge).

larrydalobstah

A majority of the VC backed chains, Solana & SUI are the prominent ones that have high node requirements which allows them to make a high rate of return than retail. This is an industry where the markets care more about eyes than tech and decentralization so make sure to keep that in mind.

idekwutp

I’ll talk to my boss about it. It’s probably fine to do just video call, but we will completely dox ourselves on call. LinkedIn, intros etc. we are backed by a very large VC. The initial screener is anonymous but when we reach out we will be very open

mickalawl

All those things you mentioned came and went. NFTs are a great example of a useless scam - the techbros extracted a bunch of wealth from the dumb dumbs and moved on. There was no actual innovation that produced any value in your list. Yes - the "tech" moves too fast for the average investor because the techbros delibretly keep coming up with new buzzwords and concepts, and tbr investors keep falling for it. Crypto tokens have no place in AI. Anyone claiming that is scamming you in this next phase of wealth extraction. Buy and hold if you believe the SoV narrative , but stop falling for "innovation" as the techbros desperately search for a use case that actually fits blockchain for their next round of VC funding and rube cash grabs.

slasherzx

Ergo POW, fair launch, No VC, smart contract enabled, Dex, Dapps, Bridged to BTC, BNB, ETH, ADA, Doge with their own unique system.

MaximumStudent1839

The amount of COPE to push a coin called USELESS is insane. LOL! And then the amount of cope to push a corporate shit bag penguin is equally disgusting. There are already rumors of Luca wanting to ICO his company. Who the fuck wants to bet on his Igloo brand via his meme coin over his stock? Already confronted him on Reddit about Abstract going to dilute his PENGU attention. Instead of admitting the problem, he just invented BS about the market not viewing Abstract as tied to the Pudgy brand. What next? Peddle the BS, his stocks won't dilute Pengu attention as a bet on Pudgy brand? I guess, you get away to talk absolute BS once you have huge VC backing you. The largest cap meme, DOGE, is neither a corporate invention nor a negative energy vibe token. The lesson is in there... keep telling everyone how a coin literally made to mock everything in crypto as USELESS or just farts is going to have staying power.

pickleBoy2021

I was referring to reading the biggests banks 10Q and investor presentations. They outline their Swot. Strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats. Public CEO’s holdings are also transparent. Private have assets. They all can take loans against their holdings or vested shares for liquidity and to minimize taxes. If a girl only does anal,she can claim she’s a virgin. No different with Brad. Claims and the truth are buried in the loopholes. Business go after stuff. That’s the point. If this was not crypto, this business would be laughable because of what little scale and integration they have had over such a long period. Having an endless runway of cash and retail message that resonates keeps it going. I like Hype. Have revenues. Captured a whale audience. Huge TVL and stables player. Built a strong base and great product. AAVE is another $60B beast. They make money have shitty margins but are actually profitable unlike most DeFi companies. Once they get their free cash flow game on. Game over. Battle tested and keep scaling up. Those are 2. Both are either almost vested or have no VC’s. Executing buybacks and but they keep innovating products people can test use and see for themselves. Basic. Believable. Usable.

SunDreamShineDay

>Show me the users and the adoption. Ok. Back in 2023 I was curious what International companies were signing up with Ripple and using XRP while the SEC case was ongoing in the USA, this isn’t a complete list of companies from the time they were sued to when I compiled this list, but it showed me adoption was happening during a time of uncertainty and these companies were not afraid of the outcome in the USA. So here are a few banks and payment companies that are using XRP that have all partnered with Ripple since the SEC sued Ripple in 2020, they all say XRP is being used in the articles. SBI Remit said that it had expanded its services using Ripple’s XRP to bank accounts in the Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia. By leveraging XRP as a bridge currency and partnering with its affiliate SBI VC Trade, SBI Remit aims for faster and cheaper money transfers that can boost adoption of XRP in target markets. SBI Remit and Ripple are eyeing these Southeast Asian markets because of their growing remittance flows. https://www.kapronasia.com/blockchain-research-menu-item/sbi-leans-further-into-digital-assets.html Ripple’s cross-border payments technology is used by enterprises, and its clients are primarily banks, payments services providers and other fintechs. The overall payment volume on its payments network RippleNet exceeds $15 billion, and its global ODL volume has grown ninefold year-on-year. ”We have seen a lot of interest in our services in MENA. We have partnerships with several leading banks in the region, including with SABB in Saudi Arabia and QNB in Qatar. We are also working with local payments service providers such as Pyypl and LuLu Money, which are using Ripple’s [ODL] crypto solution to facilitate global movements between different currencies,” Gupta said. https://www.zawya.com/en/markets/currencies/interview-ripple-bullish-on-mena-expansion-to-cash-in-on-crypto-payments-surge-h57fzchx LuLu Exchange, Ripple’s business partner based in the UAE, has formed a strategic alliance with (Mbank), the acclaimed first fully integrated virtual bank in the United Arab Emirates. LuLu is an early adopter of XRP, implementing business solutions via Ripple’s On-Demand Liquidity (ODL) service (now Ripple Payments). In a previous press statement, the Managing Director of LuLu Financial Holdings, Adeeb Ahamed, disclosed that Ripple’s ODL facility played a pivotal role in enhancing its fund management capabilities within the APAC region, all while adhering to the established regulatory guidelines. https://thecryptobasic.com/2023/11/02/uaes-al-maryah-bank-selects-ripple-odl-partner-for-cross-border-transfer/ LuLu Exchange, Ripple’s business partner based in the UAE, has formed a strategic alliance with (Mbank), the acclaimed first fully integrated virtual bank in the United Arab Emirates. LuLu is an early adopter of XRP, implementing business solutions via Ripple’s On-Demand Liquidity (ODL) service (now Ripple Payments). In a previous press statement, the Managing Director of LuLu Financial Holdings, Adeeb Ahamed, disclosed that Ripple’s ODL facility played a pivotal role in enhancing its fund management capabilities within the APAC region, all while adhering to the established regulatory guidelines. https://thecryptobasic.com/2023/11/02/uaes-al-maryah-bank-selects-ripple-odl-partner-for-cross-border-transfer/ Filipino banking firm, ChinaBank has joined forces with Qatar National Bank (QNB) to facilitate direct transfer from Qatar to the Philippines using the RippleNet payment solution. With Ripple’s On-Demand Liquidity (ODL), both banks can enable instant settlements using XRP, doing away with the need for conventional correspondent banking relationships and the costs and delays that go along with them. https://coingape.com/ripple-expands-further-in-europe-xrp-price-rally/ Ripple the leading provider of enterprise blockchain and cryptocurrency solutions for global payments, announced today the launch of RippleNet’s first live On-Demand Liquidity (ODL) service implementation in Japan, in collaboration with SBI Remit Co., Ltd, the largest money transfer provider in Japan. With ODL now available in Japan, RippleNet customers can leverage the digital asset XRP to eliminate pre-funding and reduce operational costs, unlocking capital and fuel the expansion of their payments businesses. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210727006246/en/Ripple-Launches-On-Demand-Liquidity-with-SBI-Remit-to-Accelerate-and-Grow-Cross-Border-Payments-from-Japan Ripple has launched RippleNet’s On-Demand Liquidity (ODL) in Brazil with Travelex Bank, the first bank in Latin America to utilize ODL. Travelex is the first bank registered and approved by the Central Bank of Brazil to operate exclusively in foreign exchange. By utilizing XRP, a digital asset ideal for payments, Ripple’s ODL solution allows customers to send money across borders instantly with very low-cost settlement and without the need to hold pre-funded capital in the destination market. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220818005147/en/Ripple-Launches-Crypto-enabled-Enterprise-Payments-in-Brazil-With-Travelex-Bank Ripple has announced a partnership with FINCI, the Lithuanian online international money transfer provider, to deliver instant and cost-effective retail remittances and business to business (B2B) payments via RippleNet’s On-Demand Liquidity (ODL), which leverages XRP for crypto-enabled cross border payments. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220518005134/en/Ripple-and-FINCI-Introduce-the-Benefits-of-On-Demand-Liquidity-to-Lithuania Morningstar, a financial information services subsidiary of Japanese financial giant SBI Group, will continue its XRP shareholder benefits program. The new dividend payout option comes as part of the company’s year-end reward program to thank its shareholders for their continued support in addition to interim shareholder benefits. Under the program, Morningstar will provide XRP rewards of 2,500 Japanese yen ($23) units per 100 shares owned by shareholders as of March 31, 2021. https://cointelegraph.com/news/sbi-holdings-subsidiary-continues-xrp-benefit-program Ripple partners MFS Africa. The partnership will allow MFS Africa to make use of Ripple’s on-demand liquidity to streamline real-time mobile payments for customers in 35 countries. In contrast to a legacy payment infrastructure that’s prone to errors and needs an average of 3 to 5 days to settle international transactions that involve multiple parties, ODL leverages Ripple’s XRP token to act as a bridge between two fiat currencies. This allows the system to ultimately settle payments in local currency at the payment destination in a matter of seconds. ODL corridors now exist in Europe, the Philippines, Australia, Japan and Africa thanks to its recent partnership with MFS Africa. https://thepaypers.com/mobile-payments/ripple-partners-mfs-africa-to-streamline-real-time-mobile-payments—1259214

jawni

>On one hand, it is clearly a VC/insider project if you look at who owns most of the tokens (VCs, whales, insiders), vesting schedule and unlock periods. That is why all of the absolute pump and dump garbage has benefited insiders, but hurt retail. 1. VC funding is basically the only way to fund such a project. ([While Solana has historically garnered a reputation for being a heavily “VC-backed” blockchain, the reality is that there are not many legally-compliant alternative fundraising mechanisms for this type of early stage protocol. Moreover, some layer-1 competitors have raised even more money than Solana, including NEAR, which has raised a total of ~US$524M from private investors since inception.](https://www.coinbase.com/institutional/research-insights/research/tokenomics-review/solana-sol-native-scalability)) 2. [VC lock ups are 99.9% over](https://solana.messari.io/token-unlocks). 3. Anyone could've bought Solana for under $1.00(I believe it at $0.60 when Binance listed it), so VCs got a cheaper entry, but that's just how venture funding works. The key difference between a lot of other projects is that the vast majority of the upside was available to anyone. 4. You can't blame "absolute pump and dump garbage" on the chain itself. Also not really sure what specifically you're referring to. If you mean just memecoins in general... then wouldn't that apply to every chain? Solana does the most memecoin volume, but if you look at any chain's DEX volume, memes will make up a large part. >Sadly Solana has been designed to benefit a select few, not the masses. Once you know this, you will be in a better position to make profit by timing things right (if you can). Can you explain this is in far less vague terms?

Aldhyabi

Run by community, no VC

realthigh

Sounds exactly like a VC coin.

Mundane_Weird9387

Unpopular opinion, but Solana is is a double edged sword. On one hand, it is clearly a VC/insider project if you look at who owns most of the tokens (VCs, whales, insiders), vesting schedule and unlock periods. That is why all of the absolute pump and dump garbage has benefited insiders, but hurt retail. One the other hand, the tech is superb, and actually can be used to scale so many interesting use cases. Sadly Solana has been designed to benefit a select few, not the masses. Once you know this, you will be in a better position to make profit by timing things right (if you can).

mrjune2040

"there are tons of projects that return 12%/yr profits to their players"—absolute bullshit. Any project returning a universal return to all players is simply funding that cash through either: 1/ VC money acting as CAC or 2/ Self-issued shitcoins that produce a (temporarily) inflated APR, or 3/ Inflated asset value when supply is limited which crashes upon further supply being added. And no game is sustainable when everyone wins, at least without a huge amount of continued funding/external advertising (or via the points above). I've spent a lot of time in the web3 gaming space and I've yet to see any that are sustainable economically over the long-term.

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That's exactly why 90% of my holdings is in BTC. And I hold a small bag in HYPE as it had no VC, no major wallets holding when I bought it. Liquidating slowly and redeploying everything into BTC

MaximumStudent1839

It is so fucking ironic for this scam-peddling VC, Qiao, to post this crap. He was the one pushing so much garbage just to pump his portico and helped to normalized so much BS, from AI coin trash to ICM trash...

UweLang

Just in case you do not like Hive - unpopular I agree (reasons I can not influence even I drafted marekting/sales plans - the branding is another topic) - I know people have their preference in crypto (I love BTC and Hive is where I am in community since ages - it is great but no one knows us based on reasons - we are basically the original Steemit after Justin Sun made an u nfriendly takeover we even produced a movie from). If you do not mind some USPs (as DPoS chain we do not really compete against BTC) - what makes Hive different (maybe better) * **Fee-less, high-speed DPoS chain** → perfect for social apps, gaming, and microtransactions. * **Decentralized, community-owned governance** → no VC or corporate control. * **Proven Web3 content & social infrastructure** → Hive is one of the **oldest functioning Web3 ecosystems**. Now i stop shilling - do not kill me for that :-)

DangerHighVoltage111

Trueeee, their VC money has Banks written all over it. They are here to specifically block it from scaling.

Hqjjciy6sJr

My guess: Infiltration by intelligence agencies or catering to VC friends and colleagues in the crypto industry

thebaker66

And so it should have been back then, it was new, nascent and rife with all types of shenaniganry. Yes the Dems have been harder on crypto but 1. Trump never did anything for crypto in his previous term and also slandered it. He is only backing it now because it could be used politically and the Silicon VC's were willing to turncoat just to get their aim of getting crypto pushed which of course thankfully is happening, For me it is how it has been done. I have no issue with it being the republicans having been the ones pushing it, the problem is Trump and the association with him, he should have just approved all relevant regulations and just shut up about it, now unless you're a MAGA cuck or some right wing/libertarian type/someone who was already into crypto you now see crypto as not only a scam after FTX/Luna etc but associated with the no1 grifter in the world. Not good for crypto, crypto will be fine long term but this is a set back in public perception. I think crypto needs a rebrand tbh but no matter what in a few years everyone will be using crypto but it will be the back end rails and they won't even know they're using it.

I_like_robots_3112

This could be huge for smaller companies struggling with access to capital. Suddenly, any Joe can own a sliver of a publicly traded company. What implications does this have for traditional VC firms?

RefrigeratorLow1259

Really? 😁 Uncapped supply like SOL and ETH is better? 😳 ( SOL will hit 800M from 600m current supply in 10 years!) Plus SOL was heavily backed by VC's and 48% of supply went to them and insiders...