ICP

nomorebonks

350-500 million transactions daily on ICP cause it serves web content.

C01n_sh1LL

Bitcoin is the only project in this space which I believe in. I think Ethereum still has legs as a speculative investment, but I do not believe in it long-term, as the primary use case for years now has been hosting scam token projects which can't be bothered to implement their own chain. The various ETH clones do that better now anyway. If I've learned one thing in the last couple of cycles, it's that the coins with "use cases" are the most likely to be bullshit pump and dump schemes, and are on a tier just below meme coins in terms of credibility. It's easier to see this in retrospect, so if you're having trouble seeing today's projects in this light, just think back to the projects which seemed credible in 2018, and check their investment performance in the years since then. Or look at a project like, say, ICP, which promises the moon technologically speaking, but which very quickly went more or less to zero soon after listing on Coinbase. I've come to believe that the supposed markers of credibility, by which I mean a whitepaper, a road map, a "doxed team," a distinctive use case, etc, are actually red flags now, and have been since early 2018 at least. It's a checklist to credibility which all the scammers and grifters have been taking notes on. Even less technical Nigerian, Bangladeshi, and Ghanaian scammers know the template now, and know how to tick all of these boxes. They quite literally buy and sell website templates that meet this credibility checklist. I think OP might be drawing a false distinction between true belief and emotional investment. For most people, these are the same thing.

nomorebonks

ICP serves website smart contracts from the chain. MATIC does nothing. Which has better use cases and tech?

look-at-them

Stupid sexy ICP

TurbanD00med

ICP? Are you insane?

devilsgospel666

I've tried a lot of the bigger stuff on ICP but in all honesty I loved the blockchain tarot readings and the AI-assisted (or something) lofi beat maker lol. I spent a lot of time with those little things.

Ceago

Same - although admittedly I spend most of my time fucking around on Cubetopia. Still clunky but I enjoy it. What's your favorite ICP dapp?

devilsgospel666

I'm gonna get hate, but ICP

islandchild89

ICP

theyfoundDNAinme

Somehow Insane Clown Posse is only the second most embarrassing ICP

Adogcallednog

ICP

Octopus-Pawn

If we’re doing inverse r/cryptocurrency, I’m all in on ICP

nomorebonks

ICP

SnowFlakeDude

ICP and squidgamecoin.

nomorebonks

Ignoring the tech argument now and just resorting to ghost chain and baggie talk again like everyone else when someone compares ICP tech. >Pretty much what i said earlier, nobody is going to use these except ICP holders You're not getting that these are built on-chain, will be run as DAO's controlled by an on-chain protocol just like the entire Internet Computer is, and are a true web3 architecture for a new internet where you can actually control your data. A lot of talk about that and ICP actually does it. *Your keys, your data*. That's what separates it from regular web2 bullshit where all your data is stolen almost daily. Where you're subject to platform risk because they don't like your politics, your content in general, shut off a service you need without notice, or where they take 30% or some shit of your profit. >Sweet, just need some adoption. Agreed - companies looking to save millions will be looking and finding it. Absolutely perfect for indie devs who always run out of money because of costs of hardware and cloud. >We have an AWS alternative too. Akash. Not built on COSMOS and more importantly not built on-chain either. It's a great product that has some coins on COSMOS. Not very exciting and nothing close to ICP at all. It still has all the web2 vulnerabilities that ICP solves with being on chain and having tamperproof smart contracts for the web - there's no firewall needed. No one is hacking your smart contract the way they do on web2. >Lot of places to build web3 games on. No there aren't - only ICP is able to run these games from the chain. Those are the same gimmick we're seeing all over - a game hosted on AWS or run on your PC with some coins moving around somewhere on the backend. Because that's all the chain offers. It's all it can offer. Except for ICP. >I'll take my defi and nft crap and 53 sovereign blockchains All 53 of those do the *same* exact thing - nfts and high APY defi questionable scams. That's all they can do on-chain. ICP's tech allows for endless possibilities of development on-chain. ICP tech is clearly better. Probably wouldn't be having this discussion if FTX hadn't released ICP-PERP trading to run up the price and give the appearance of just another P&D. Still recovering from that but I think there's a chance to turn it around. The tech is there. Good luck to you too.

0ne_too

> It's all on-chain activity since it's hosting web content So those 500m txs are just clicks on all these social platforms? > distrikt, seers social, catalyze, taggr, dsocial, openchat, onlyontrax, cubetopia, faefolk, portal I looked at everyone of these. Pretty much what i said earlier, nobody is going to use these except ICP holders. It's cool that's it's onchain i guess, and decentralized, but does that really matter if no one adopts? Those aren't going to disrupt youtube, twitter, discord, aws, or anything else they're trying to be. If im wrong in a cpl years come find me. I'm completely fine w Cosmos not trying to do this. You win i guess. I'll take my defi and nft crap. > They're taking on AWS as an alternative web hosting and it's cheap and easy to develop on the IC. We have an AWS alternative too. Akash. Cloud compute and services. Dude who runs it is one of my fav Cosmos people. Check their twitter. > They're getting rid of the IT stack for companies which will save hundreds of billions a year. Sweet, just need some adoption. > Perfect spot for Indie game devs not looking to get eaten up by fees or be subject to platform risk Lot of places to build web3 games on. Im sure some will choose to go this route. Really would have liked to see Cubetopia. Cosmos has Strange Clans (it's own L1) and Androverse, and Bushi (on Secret). None of those are out but getting closer. We'll see who does better. Sounds like you're as happy w ICP as i am with Cosmos. Good luck to you ser

StygianFuhrer

Let me get this straight. You think ICP, 99+% down and with over 200 million tokens (almost 50%) not yet in circulation, can do over 125x to reclaim ATH?

StygianFuhrer

Okay, at any point in 2025, what price do you think ICP will be?

StygianFuhrer

ICP all time high: $750.73 ICP all time low: $3.39 ICP current price: $5.46 (-99.27%) ICP status: new blue chip

UhUhWaitForTheCream

I reckon most of the new blue chips will be Layer 1’s for ecosystems. Like Algorand, ICP, Ava’s etc

3utt5lut

Marketing is everything. Polkadot has no marketing, it develops solid tech, and everyone sleeps on it. Cosmos has really good marketing, is developing good tech albeit slowly, but still moderate nevertheless, has explosive price movement. Cardano despite being quite basic has extensive marketing, only just got smart contracts recently, and was #3 last year. I like to look past all the marketing and it wouldn't be bad bet to support ICP again, despite how much everyone on here hates it. I read their whitepaper and it was exploring concepts that weren't even fully developed yet, very closely related to how Polkadot operates, with bits and pieces of other popular blockchains piled into one.

nomorebonks

It's all on-chain activity since it's hosting web content. That's not theory and it's the only chain doing it. It has HTTPs outcalls from the chain, stores all data, web, images, NFTs entirely on the chain. Has direct integration with BTC eliminating bridges and will do that with all ECDSA chains - meaning you get smart contracts and DeFi for BTC. You can create oracles on chain to provide instant settlement and get rid of callbacks. Decentralized front ends for all chains. Some other sites: distrikt, seers social, catalyze, taggr, dsocial, openchat, onlyontrax, etc, etc, etc it's going to be an endless list. You can actually develop useful shit on ICP not just DeFi and NFT junk. I'm using some of those every day. They're *entirely* on the chain in tamperproof smart contracts. COSMOS can't do anything close to this. Any of it. There's nothing COSMOS is doing that can't be done on ICP either. ICP is in another league and it's years ahead.

0ne_too

what on ICP is getting 500 million tx's a day. Got any other sites besides that one? It's great that's all on chain, but no one but bag holders are going to visit that more than once. Got any Defi or NFT sites? Got any non-theoretical examples of the tech beating comsos?

nomorebonks

Being outperformed by ICP. And ICP tech and actual developer use case is years ahead of COSMOS.

GetEmDaddy902

you mean like FOMO into $260 SOL $3.12 ADA $700 ICP Me I never chase a pump, I learned to love my red days to be honest, just buy when its comfortable for you. I wouldn't buy a coin that pumped 140% in 3days if its up %20 I wouldn't call that FOMO.

FluffayPenguin

OP is hoping ICP will get back to its launch date price.

Ghost_Lagoon

A new blockchain appearing out of nothing and straight up pumps into the top30? Gives me some ICP vibes

nomorebonks

>To say you can only build DeFi and NFTs just shows how little you understand it. I asked you to name use cases and you couldn't. Name one besides DeFi and NFTs. My average ICP buy is 4.50 - it's clearly the best tech in the space. How anyone isn't able to see is blows my mind.

nomorebonks

One - ICP.

WhiskasTheCat

8. The ones who bought ICP at launch

crownpoly

He DM’ed me and said ICP is a solid hold

nomorebonks

Lol at the down arrows. They're not going to suppress ICP forever. It's years ahead.

USDA_Organic_Tendies

Does ICP still exist? The coin, not the clowns

Grunblau

I have this exact same question. Will have to check out ICP…

nomorebonks

ICP. All data on-chain secured with your key.

nomorebonks

Internet Computer is the only chain building real world use case applications entirely on the chain. All of it is on chain - storage, data, web code, images, Unity games that connect to your wallet, etc., etc. Everything can live on-chain. No other project can do this. It's not possible to do any of what you can do on ICP on any other chain. A [social media site](https://dscvr.one/) like this lives 100% on-chain secured in a tamperproof web smart contract, and eliminates the need for a traditional IT stack saving potentially hundreds of billions across the traditional IT space. This is what web3 actually is. Barely scratching the surface of what ICP can do though.

Skeptical_Kevin

Why ICP?

nomorebonks

Convert them all to ICP

Odysseus_Lannister

Hmm, the ICP? I feel like I’ve heard that before

Intelligent_Page2732

I don't think ICP will ever reach it's ATH again.

CointestMod

#ICP Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by DaddySkates which won 2nd place in the ICP Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > My biggest negative point with the Internet Computer is the fact that they are promising us a completely decentralized world wide web, while their platform is in fact completely centralized. > > It was previously already suggested that you beed a pre-approved mining rig just to run their node. One security flaw in those rigs and the whole network could be affected as all would have the same issue. This is the complete opposite of the decentralization that, funnily, they are trying to present us. > > If we leave the pump and dump aside, I think that alone is one of the biggest red flags out there for ICP and its future. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtt0/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_internet_computer/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest Archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Internet_Computer) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/10erynt/daily_general_discussion_january_18_2023_gmt0/).

CointestMod

#ICP Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by DaddySkates which won 3rd place in the ICP Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > The ICP or Internet Computer has a defined path they want to take, which I respect. I know that it was extremely pumped in its early days but the team behind the project Dfinity, is a organization consists of almost two hundred specialist who are working on the project and are pouring its energy in it. > I am still interested in ICP despite the FUD that surrounds it and almost cursed like status when you speak of it here. It has a good use case in my opinion by making the world wide web completely decentralized. > With time, when the dust settles from the pump and dump, I am quite sure that ICP will have a good base to build up from. > > We all need completely decentralized internet if we are to truly adopt cryptocurrencies worldwide. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsu\/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_internet_computer/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest Archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Internet_Computer) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

CointestMod

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coinfeeds-bot

tldr; ICP price has surged by more than 60% from its lowest level in 2022. Internet Computer is a blockchain project that was created by Dfinity, a Swiss-based non-profit organization. It is a world computer that can host programs and data in the form of smart contracts. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

AdventureousTime

There was nothing manipulative in the way ICP rose and fell. That's just how Juggalos roll.

Hawke64

Imagine some shitcoin like ICP pumping because of that

gn0234

ICP is the one with the real user and with them real daily transaction is well.

Shiratori-3

I have to admit, I know very little about ICP, and I hold none, but '*Internet Computer*' is fundamentally quite a cool name.

nomorebonks

ICP is doing 350-500 million transactions a day of chain activity. It is running website smart contracts off the chain.

ResponsibilitySea549

Meanwhile ICP has Full Social media platforms operating seamlessly 100% on chain. And has been around 1/5 the time

ResponsibilitySea549

Lol. ICP

nomorebonks

I thank this sub and others for turning me onto ICP. Without all the FUD I wouldn't have looked into it. Shit chart, far and away the best real world use case tech platform. Actually the *only* real world use case blockchain. You know that though since you did your research.

Harold838383

There's coins I refuse to buy into thanks to this sub. This includes Doge, Shib, Sol, ICP, any exchange token etc.

AlienInTexas

\- MATIC will be the big winner. Price decline was not as big as other crypto, so it has a good starting point \- CELO has built an amazing ecosystem and is gaining traction \- you can hate me as much as you wish, but ICP made really solid progress and it is only a matter of time till the features it offers get noticed

aTalkingDonkey

The most realistically useful coins are ETH, ADA, ALGO, DOT, SOL, ICP, everything else is based on marketing and hype instead of function and utility.

WingChungGuruKhabib

Sure I'll buy, quite bullish on ICP

Schwammosaurus_Rex

Anyone wants to buy my ICP bags? I'll do 3 for 2

nomorebonks

All in on ICP. It's the only project that matters.

CatBoy191114

> Ofcourse this may be anecdotal but I've been on this sub for quite awhile and have never seen such animosity towards a certain coin. Shib and ICP holders can probably relate.

nomorebonks

More ICP talk please

LHansenL

I’m finally up on ICP for once.

onguito

The ICP. A coin shittier than ltc...and that's a fuck lot to say since LTC is shit AF...

TooWhiteToFunction

You’re right, even ICP is pumping

Narshlob88

Imagine if ICP hit triple digits again.

nomorebonks

SOL is SBF’s coin. Try talking about ICP.

nomorebonks

Garbage. Buy ICP.

nomorebonks

At least you'll be able to use your sats on ICP since it can now write smart contracts using native BTC that lives on the Internet Computer and doesn't involve any bridges. Stays all on the Bitcoin mainnet while being used in smart contracts. ICP will do this for *all ECDSA chains*. A first for BTC - it'll get that utility it's been looking for. Use native BTC in website tipping, website stores built on ICP like an Etsy, Amazon, Spotify, etc, and pay with native BTC. All of it on chain. If you can name a chain with more real world utility I'll buy into it right now. There is no project like ICP. You're stuck on the chart.

nomorebonks

I will eventually sell my ICP because it is a governance token in the first ever fully on chain DAO for decentralized internet hosting built on a next gen blockchain controlled by a protocol, and because it has to be burned to get cycles to power the Internet Computer canisters. It has use. You will sell your coin because someone is FOMO'ing into some DeFi or NFT garbage.

Spacedude2187

The ICP reputation is pretty much destroyed whoever the scapegoat is and that doesn’t make a nice pumping altcoin. I’m here to stack sats.

nomorebonks

Internet Computer is the most powerful project in this space and it's not even close. Decentralized internet fully on chain away from AWS, Google, Microsoft, Hetzner, Alibaba, government control, etc., etc. so they stop stealing all your god damn data and censoring you. They cannot track you on ICP. WTF are crypto projects joining forces with AWS for besides a pump in price. Only project in the space that can do this and allow you to build real world use case projects on chain. Entire websites, storage and all, on chain. The chart sucks. Go ahead and down arrow.

Spacedude2187

The lord and savior ICP?

nomorebonks

> Lots of FTX words here Because FTX is almost singlehandedly responsible for the enormous run up in price due to synthetic trading of ICP. Now people like you keep repeating the BS about the launch. ICP is under attack for a reason because there is *no* project that is as powerful as the Internet Computer. If it fails then blockchain is a fucking joke. It's all scams in DeFi and NFTs in this space right now. People throw together a website on AWS and move some coins around behind the scenes and call it web3 or "building on chain" when it's not. People like you who can't see this are the problem. Whatever bag you're holding I know it doesn't do a damn thing in the real world because you can't build shit on chain with it. Everything is like that except for ICP and developers are beginning to realize this. I almost don't even care if it pumps because I know the tech is needed and will *change everything* about big tech being in control of our data and our lives with how you have to bend the knee to them. Decentralized Internet away from big tech and government control is the future and that's only possible right now on ICP. Every other chain is garbage. Flat out shit brimming with scams.

Spacedude2187

Oh ffs… ICP might’ve been the worst launch in history of crypto 😄 pls tell me you forgot ”/s”

kirtash93

I was expecting a pump because of ICP data but not that big.

nomorebonks

ICP. There's no need for other projects.

ahabraken

So.....buy ICP right???

StygianFuhrer

You managed to lose from January 2021? What did you buy, ICP?

fuzzyduck88

Your mom started taking ICP for hers… that explains it!

Mundane-Farm-4117

I mean people still mention ICP here

nomorebonks

>It's very obviously not a blockchain It very obviously is. This remains the worst ICP take ever.

nomorebonks

This is the worst take on ICP I've ever seen. It seriously is. >most arrogantly pretentious things I've ever heard That's your whole post.

nomorebonks

> I was wondering why I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find an ICP shill. A five day old account and you posted this? Are you kidding me? You're fooling no one and you were constantly on my case about being an "ICP shill". Dude it's hilariously obvious.

nomorebonks

Because on chain it's all able to be wrapped in tamperproof smart contracts and all data is locked behind your private keys and **not accessible to anyone else but you**. I can't BELIEVE I have to explain shit over and over about this because people simple hate that it can be done, and even WORSE it's on **ICP**.

nomorebonks

Why, did you remember that only ICP can do this shit?

SteveHoltSonofEve

I was wondering why I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find an ICP shill.