ICP

NikkiOh_1110

I don’t see enough people talking about ICP. They need to be.

JustStopppingBye

[Find it in the report, if you think they used ICP. ](https://www.swissbanking.ch/_Resources/Persistent/7/9/e/a/79ea024daa9834c99fc299db5d5f69c4317525a2/20250916_Ergebnisbericht%20PoC%20Deposit%20Token_EN_FINAL.pdf)

JetHeavy

How much you wanna bet they are using the Swiss based ICP.

Confident-Bar-9526

Can someone rate my bags? 50% LINK 12% HBAR 9% ALGO 9% TAO 7% ETH 6% LTC 4% ICP 3% STRK. Planning on selling late 2025. Any input or critiques appreciated!

LegendaryJohnny

Now do this with ICP graph. Or with DOT graph. Not so cool hm 🤣

TheDoge420

It’s all computer nod to ICP and FLOKI

LegendaryJohnny

I expect one final push up this year followed by massive sell out. 4 trillion market cap will go to below 2 trillion. Most top 100 alts will die and will never recover next bull run (ICP is good example). It will be great shorting opportunity. Imagine you place short on shitcoin which will go just down for 2 years and never recovers. Easy money. My guess is that Solana will crumble hard as well.

Sebach-balkanoid

ICP is stable coin

WR3CKONER

ICP

Reasonable-Button-62

Pudgy penguin, XRP, Solana, ICP, AVAX snd etherum

Panchokis

ICP will be the death of ada and all other chains

Shrekworkwork

lol. I agree with your picks but ICP and ALGO are both hbar and ada tier too

Shrekworkwork

Ofcourse nothings a guarantee but I think ICP and ALGO will blow up big.

AbbreviationsIll213

ICP. Check out caffeine.ai

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loc710

I just really wondering what convinced you to buy ICP?? That’s gotta be the shittiest coin

Commercial-Shape5561

Bruh what the hell, all these coins are trash, sorry brother you need to start over from the beginning here and get your BTC, ETH, SOL, LINK and TAO right. Fundamentals first. Who told you to buy this crap?? Look at the ICP chart vs BTC… ICPBTC on trading view… it has only ever gone straight down. Complete scam. All of these coins are like that.

Rampage-De

hodl BTC and stake ICP

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Even_Virus_3017

85% Bitcoin 10% ICP 5% USDC

vish729

ICP is a scam that gets promoted over and over. Tired of seeing it.

SneakiSasquatch

ICP

beepo7654

ICP is going to rocket

nahkiaispallo

well Algo but really, ICP

Squidsoda

You love to shill ICP huh

AbbreviationsIll213

ICP is on sale

Domino540

ICP

LegendaryJohnny

Is this I See Pee (ICP) lol

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autosites

Research ICP. I got early invitation code to try Caffeine AI yesterday. Very impressive. I would try it out before investing in anything else.

Sassy_Allen

Maybe you should explain more about what is going on? Or also realize as well that currently about half of the tokens are locked and a majority is lock for 8 years. The real liquid supply is actually around Eths supply which is also infinite with less utility to it. Maybe actually learn about ICP before just blatantly saying stuff that you clearly don't understand.

USAtothemoon

My brain dead take is exactly what you just said you fucking twat. As stated, my argument to why tokenomics sucks becomes null and void if ICP actually gained value and usage. Which it isn’t, because dfinity sucks. Eat a bag of dicks and learn to read you dumb cunt.

Sassy_Allen

ICP doesn’t have runaway inflation the way critics frame it. The network pays node providers a stable fiat equivalent reward to keep infrastructure reliable, minting more ICP when the price is low and less when it is high. On the other side all computation burns ICP permanently, and as usage scales those burns can outpace the minting which makes the system deflationary rather than inflationary. With governance set limits on node rewards and growing demand from AI, storage, and dapps, the claim that they just mint and dump ignores half the picture. What a brain dead take.

USAtothemoon

Among just a general shittiness, they mint ICP tokens to pay the node providers. There is a set monthly reimbursement the providers get to run a node. I used to be really in to ICP but it’s been so long that I can’t remember the amount but let’s say it’s $100. If ICP is only $5 then they mint 20 new ICP tokens to pay the provider. If ICP is $20 then they’d mint 5. So they’re constantly minting new ICP tokens to pay providers who turn around and dump them in order to cover their costs. In reality, if the price of $ICP would be more in time with what it should actually be worth, say $50, it wouldn’t be a terrible model but because they don’t do anything to increase price, they’re just constantly inflating the supply.

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tldr; The Internet Computer Protocol (ICP) is a revolutionary approach to computing, addressing issues like cybersecurity and reliance on cloud providers. Inspired by Bitcoin's security principles, ICP uses cryptographic protocols and distributed systems to create a decentralized, unhackable, and unstoppable platform for running smart contracts and applications. It offers developers a secure and efficient environment, reducing costs and complexity. ICP has been operational since May 2021 without failures or hacks, delivering on the vision of a World Computer. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

USAtothemoon

ICP has amazing tech, no doubt. But their tokenomics are garbage, their community is small and insufficient, down right insufferable at times. Dfinity that runs it doesn’t listen to the holders, made a shit ton of money on their backs and has zero ability to properly market what they have. Dominic Williams and Jan Carmichael are geniuses but they suck at communicating to the broader crypto community. ICP could be amazing, no doubt, but it’s very unlikely that its potential will ever be realized because the foundation in charge of it absolutely sucks.

LegendaryJohnny

Lol, he is lOnG tErM holder bro. Meaning he is holding dead 2021 coins like Polka Dot or ICP 🤣🤣🤣

Fibocrypto

ICP

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tldr; Diode.io announces the launch of new production canisters featuring vetKEY-protected file system functions, enabling end-to-end encrypted file storage and chat functionalities on ICP. This ensures maximum privacy, as only authorized users can access encrypted data. The update allows ICP Canisters to act as 'always on peers' for Diode Zones, enhancing data availability while maintaining privacy. Currently in beta testing, the rollout will soon be available to all users, with source code accessible on GitHub. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

t0rus1

ICP

JetHeavy

Tell him to buy ICP instead if he wants AI . Go look at dfinity.org the foundation responsible for this and tell him to stop buying inferior tech scam or not

JetHeavy

ICP can run Crysis now.

Electronic-Board-977

Hbar, Bonzo. Lots of coins on Sui like Deep and IKA. ICP..?🤔

Natural_NoChemical

Doubling subnet storage to 2 TiB means ICP can now handle larger replicated states, improving scalability and app performance. For developers, this opens the door to building more complex dapps directly on-chain.

Sassy_Allen

It is a fair point, and that is why most chains rely on IPFS, Arweave, or cloud for bulk storage. The tradeoff with ICP is intentional: by replicating the full state across every node in a subnet, you get instant, trustless access to all your data with no extra layers, no availability risk if some nodes vanish, and no need to juggle off chain solutions. It is heavier, but it unlocks things other blockchains cannot do, such as complex and data heavy apps running entirely on chain. ICP also has distributed blob storage on the roadmap, so developers will have both options in the future: fully replicated state when you need it, and cheaper distributed storage when you do not. It is less impractical and more of a different design choice with different strengths.

Sassy_Allen

DFINITY just upgraded every subnet on the Internet Computer to **2 TB of replicated storage**. For context, most blockchains can only handle tiny amounts of on chain data before it gets insanely expensive, so they push developers to use off-chain storage like IPFS or Arweave. On ICP, every node in a subnet holds the full 2 TB state, which means developers can build large, data-heavy applications entirely on chain. With 47 subnets live, that’s **94 TB total replicated capacity** across the network right now. No other blockchain even comes close to this level of seamless, scalable on chain storage.

Sassy_Allen

Caffeine AI is now live, built on the Internet Computer Protocol (ICP), making it possible to create full stack on-chain apps just by chatting. With ICP canisters, your plain English prompts turn directly into decentralized code without relying on AWS or other middlemen. Everything runs inside ICP’s architecture, which means stronger privacy, resilience, and transparency than typical cloud tools. This marks a shift where apps can be built, deployed, and evolved at chat speed while staying fully Web3. An app store is set to launch in October, giving builders and users a direct hub to share and discover what Caffeine AI creates.

AlhadjiX

ICP issues new tokens as staking rewards. Apps burn ICP into cycles for real usage. Net supply = minting minus burning ……. So not endless inflation. Storage and the apps Caffeine creates will lead to more ICP burned than issued. DYOR, or the Cope will be generational.

Miserable_Turnip_380

I'm all for ICP and KTA

raulbloodwurth

I like how their logo matches the max supply of ICP: ∞

Ir0nman123

Artificial Intelligence sector should do very well in the next few months. AI is sexy, it’s the future. Shiny shiny ✨ but seriously, look into FET, TAO ICP.

Sassy_Allen

It is on ICP because the apps and websites you create live on chain, so they cannot be taken down like they could on AWS or other cloud providers. VetKeys add privacy and time locked features, and storage coming online in October is extremely cheap at around 25 dollars per terabyte. Put that together and you get a platform where you can build, store, and protect data in ways that normal cloud just cannot match. It’s uncharted territory once it launches.

GentlemenHODL

This feels like an actual pivotal moment. You now have a prompt based app engineering tool in which you can walk it through and create your own app in minutes. That's wildly impressive. I don't understand what this has to do with blockchain or why it's on ICP though.

Sassy_Allen

Yeah, that is where vetKeys could come in. They allow time locked encryption and selective reveals, so you could store messages or media on ICP and then set rules for when it is viewable or when it wipes. That kind of crypto tooling makes the Signal or Telegram plus ICP storage idea actually workable.

still_salty_22

Is ICP for real...?

Sassy_Allen

I’ve been watching ICP pretty closely. Unlike most chains, the token is an actual utility since ICP gets burned into cycles to run apps, storage, and compute straight on chain. The storage part is not just raw cold storage like Filecoin, it is dynamic storage that can serve websites, dapps, and even AI workloads directly. With Caffeine AI dropping soon and public storage going live, we’re talking apps that are tamperproof, permanent, and can’t just be taken down. Storage will be around 5 bucks a year per GB, like 43 cents a month, which is super competitive for something that is live and on chain. Unlike other AI tools that just spit out code, this actually lets you build and host apps fully on chain. As the network grows and more gets built, more ICP gets used up, and that is where price growth comes from. If adoption keeps building, ICP has way more going for it than just speculation.

Sassy_Allen

Yeah, storage going public in early October is the big step. It will be priced per gigabyte at rates that are meant to compete directly with traditional cloud providers, but with the added difference that once it is on chain it is tamperproof and permanent. The development side is basically done, now it is about rolling it out at scale. This is also where people forget ICP itself is a utility token, it was not designed to just be speculative, it is supposed to reflect actual usage of the blockchain. As more storage, compute, and apps run on ICP, more tokens get burned into cycles, which ties price action directly to adoption. Caffeine AI could play a huge role in that because it makes it easy for non technical users to actually build and deploy apps on chain. That is where the real upside comes from, not just hype but usage that keeps growing over time.

Sassy_Allen

On ICP, data and apps live directly on the blockchain, which makes them tamperproof and impossible for a company to just switch off. There is no AWS or Google style landlord to hand over a DMCA takedown request to. That means we are in completely new territory for how takedown laws interact with decentralized infrastructure. Developers can still build moderation and filtering into their apps, but the underlying data on chain remains untouched. The NNS governance system can step in for extreme cases, but even that is a community decision rather than a corporate one. This flips the current model where hosts carry liability and governments lean on them to police the internet. It forces the question of what censorship even looks like when the infrastructure itself cannot be easily censored. It’s going to be pretty wild when it all goes live publicly.

kidhack

Some interesting use cases here. $25 per terabyte seem like a good deal for data that can be secure, anonymous, and decentralized. It would be awesome to be able to connect services like Signal or Telegram to use storage on ICP so you can view it (without the app) and securely wipe it when ever you wanted.

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tldr; Dfinity Foundation has launched Caffeine AI, an alpha platform enabling AI-assisted app creation through natural language prompts, aiming to democratize software development for 5 billion smartphone users. Built on the Internet Computer Protocol (ICP), Caffeine allows users to create functional apps in minutes, challenging traditional app store models with features like cloning and modifying apps. Partnering with Anthropic Inc., Dfinity integrates advanced AI models to enhance decentralized computing and Web3 innovation, potentially disrupting the software development landscape. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

DivineMackerel

ICP was an expensive lesson in FOMO for me. I like the technology but was stupid about the price.

Sassy_Allen

A lot of people don’t realize that when ICP launched, Binance and FTX had futures trading before the token was even public. That let insiders push the price up and then crash it, which is why the same old chart still gets thrown around today. Bringing up the launch price now is mostly just cope, because even with that rough start ICP has kept pushing major upgrades and pushing the limits of what blockchains can actually do. Most projects are still talking about features ICP already has live, let alone what is planned next. The focus should not be on the launch price but on how far ahead ICP is compared to all the other blockchains.

Sassy_Allen

People see the storage price on AWS or Filecoin and think that is the whole deal. The catch is you also get billed for compute, data transfer, gateways, and everything else needed to make it actually work, so the real cost ends up much higher. With ICP the number you see for storage is the number you pay. Compute, identity, and file delivery are all built into the same system. It keeps things simple and makes the total cost clear from the start.

bigsequence

Bitcoin and ICP

Bigred-to

ICP

ManyMaroshMondays

ICP learn more here - https://icp-56h.caffeine.xyz/ ( btw ICPs caffeineAI made this website and wrote all of the information with a single prompt - hosted entirely ON CHAIN)

ManyMaroshMondays

ICP

ManyMaroshMondays

$ICP DYOR and see why

penarhw

I think the obsession with everything on-chain often ignores the user experience dimension. Rialo, for instance, doesn’t claim to be an ICP style stack. It’s middleware designed so users don’t feel the on-chain parts at all. If you measure adoption by traction, their community is already exploding

AbbreviationsIll213

https://icptokens.net/ I think ICP ecosystem will explode this run once caffeine ai is public. Every meme on ICP is under 1 million MC. Some aren’t even memes, but legit companies like OpenApp. Even the top RWA (Origyn) is only 25 million MC. If I’m right, there’s huge gains to be made here with very little capital.

t0rus1

ICP

ZeroFuxYT

Its $ICP for me 😘 14% staking rewards for an 8year lockup, for the best tech in the entire space.. Sooo overlooked its insane. Only blockchain that runs games, ai, NFTs, websites, apps, ENTIRLY on chain without reliing on czntralised cloud for hosting 💪 Tired of all these transaction layers claiming "onchain" istge new online, while theres only ONE doing it forreal.

Sassy_Allen

I would wait to see caffeine ai. It comes out to the public in 3 days? I believe Oct 7th is when people will be able to deploy thier websites and applications directly on ICP.

Juice79man

ICP

Sassy_Allen

You can literally use OpenChat, DSCVR, or Distrikt without touching a token. Tokens are just there for governance or extra features. Real people are already using these apps every day without speculating on anything. That is a working example right in front of you. Here is also a link to dapps on ICP https://internetcomputer.org/ecosystem

Sassy_Allen

Best is subjective. If you want smart contracts that can run full apps and services at scale and serve the Internet directly, ICP is the only blockchain built for that.

Podsly

Lost me at ICP 🤣

Sassy_Allen

Not AI, just me actually taking the time to explain ICP instead of tossing out a short post that will be downvoted by people who do not understand how things work.

mindcandy

I also hold Kaspa and see it the same way. Once smart contracts get in, the tech will be solidly awesome. Effectively a new POW ETH at 1000 transactions per second. And, upgrading to 10k soon. The main thing it’s missing is a bunch of rich pre-investors. Because it was fair-launched, no small group has the money to front a marketing campaign for it. So, it just kinda sits there being ignored by the public. And, no group has the money to pay off exchanges for listings. So, it is also ignored there too. And so, I see lots of shill online for ICP, Polygon and Arbitrum but not KAS even though they all have similar market caps. If it was a 21 million coins supply cap like Bitcoin, it would be around $100 per KAS. Does all that mean the price is gonna moon? Maybe. But, I don’t expect it to be fast. Until a year ago it was on a nice smooth curve. And, had action largely decorrelated from the rest of the crypto market. But, changes in mining economics were badly timed with wild changes in the general economy. And, it has been a rough recovery ever since.

Sassy_Allen

I get the point you are making but it mostly applies to chains where smart contracts are valuable only through token activity. ICP is different because canisters are full applications that can scale, upgrade, and serve the web directly. Yes, ICP has to be converted into cycles to power them, but the end user does not need to hold the token to use the app. That means one popular app or site running fully on-chain could prove the model, showing real utility where the token fuels the system in the background rather than being the product itself.

Sassy_Allen

get that you see some of it as filler but that is just your opinion. The extra context is what makes the post complete and people seemed receptive to my last one. If someone wants a short version I can always do that but not everything about ICP can be explained in a couple of lines. And if you think it is filler you can always scroll past. Calling it propaganda does not really fit because I am pointing out actual features of the tech. The word evolution makes sense here since smart contracts started as simple scripts and on ICP they have grown into canisters that scale, upgrade, persist, and even serve the web directly.

Sassy_Allen

I mean a canister is literally the next step for smart contracts that allows you to do more things on the blockchain. You clearly don’t understand the impact of this and what ICP is capable of doing over pretty much every other blockchain? It call it an evolution is not a stretch at all.

Sassy_Allen

Fair, but some topics can’t really be explained in a 150 word length post. If people only ever read surface level takes, they’ll never understand why ICP’s model is different. Short versions are fine, but sometimes you need more depth.

C-Dull

Who the hell is talking about ICP?

Hitchie_Rawtin

Ah, the Lesser Spotted ETHmaxi who diminishes Dfinity as a fake marketing chain despite Vitalik complimenting them. I fucking wish ICP was a fake marketing chain at this stage, they don't market shit, they just keep building and hoping somebody arrives, pretty fucking annoying tbh.

JetHeavy

Oisy wallet based on ICP is a non local decentralized wallet. No add-ons no software. Check it out.

ZeroFuxYT

ICP is something else man 👀 Watch this video: https://x.com/ZeroFuxBJ/status/1952379592943309259?t=xj6YfxaGQQp01vF0RGPKOg&s=19

ToohotmaGandhi

Better than using AWS or Google Cloud that can steal your data, get breached. Plus other chains can just use ICP as the infrastructure to get off AWS and whatnot and then use chain-key tech to interact with thier chain. The future of the internet in on-chain and a multi chain solution

ma0za

Holy shit for a second i really thought this was going to be a post critical of fake Marketing chains... AND THEN HE SAID ICP LMAOOO

Sassy_Allen

It’s still a verifiable public chain, just architected differently to scale beyond the toy model most chains are stuck with. The replicas run full consensus, certify state, and provide cryptographic proofs that anyone can check, which is a bit more than a ‘private database’. Calling it permissioned ignores that node providers are vetted, public, and growing in number under open governance. If you think ICP ‘misses fundamentals,’ maybe the fundamentals you’re clinging to are the reason most blockchains can’t do more than overpriced ledgers.

Sassy_Allen

ICP not on chain is just a misunderstanding. Ethereum keeps every block forever which is why its storage is insanely expensive while ICP uses consensus to replicate and certify state across independent nodes. The entire application stack still runs natively on chain including code storage and front end it just does not waste cycles replaying history forever on every subnet. That is not off chain that is simply a more efficient design.

paroxsitic

ICP doesn't technically host things on chain, you can read more from a dfinity member here: https://np.reddit.com/r/dfinity/s/0eSMGESZzN

paroxsitic

ICP doesn't technically host things on chain, you can read more from a dfinity member here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dfinity/s/0eSMGESZzN

SicklyPotatoes

UPDATE ((XRP, LINK, HBAR, XLM, ETH, QNT, BTC,ADA, JASMY, ICP)) If anyone cares these are what I went with. Went over my budget a little bit but got healthy amounts of each and was also already holding some things suggested. Not expecting to become a millionaire but decent returns would be nice. Followed advice kinda and waited around and caught most of these during today’s dip which was nice. Interestingly enough, everything on this list followed the exact same dip and recovery pattern today besides ADA, which also has the strongest recovery up 4% from before yesterday’s dip.

SlyckCypherX

Did you also get some ICP at $700?

Sassy_Allen

The use of Cloudflare there is purely because the ICP dashboard is a separate informational website and not part of the blockchain itself. The dashboard is basically a convenience tool. It queries the network, formats the data, and presents it in a browser. Since it is just a public facing site, the easiest and cheapest way to protect it from DDoS and spam traffic is to use a service like Cloudflare. That has nothing to do with ICP’s core infrastructure or its ability to handle attacks on the blockchain itself. As for ICP itself, the protocol and boundary node architecture are designed to resist network level flooding and spam, but the dashboard is not mission critical to the network. If the dashboard went offline, the ICP blockchain would keep running exactly the same. Developers and anyone else can still access the network directly through nodes or APIs without touching the dashboard.

meme_2

why is the site you are linking to using Cloudflare if ICP's infrastructure is so amazing? They obviously rely on Cloudflare for some critical things, likely DDoS protection and other security features that they can't handle themselves. Pretty comical if you ask me.

SwingNMisses

I mean they did timely list ICP so it could dump hard on retail. I too hate Coinbase.

HSuke

I made the mistake of focusing too much on your 1st point (where the infrastructure is hosted) and glossed over your later points (e.g. full application stack is not on-chain for most other blockchains). Personally, I don't really care about your 1st point that much, but your later points are quite good and a concern for other blockchains. For other blockchains, most of the dApp is hosted off-chain, and only the state change for smart contract is hosted on-chain (e.g. changes in account balances). Client-side wallet UX hasn't gotten advanced enough to decipher a complex batch transaction for non-technical users. That is a concern for trustlessness. Much of the reason consumers trust dApps is almost entirely reputation-based. For example, we trust OpenSea or Uniswap because they have gained sufficient reputation and known teams, and because there are enough users to raise alarms if something goes wrong. But if a dApp developer ever decides to go rogue and be malicious for a one-time whale attack, this would be really hard to prevent on other blockchains if the whale consumer is on auto-pilot signing transactions generated from the dApp without carefully examining them. I think ICP is the best solution for when the application full stack needs to be run entirely on-chain. On the other hand, would this make things more secure for non-devs? They don't have control over the application code. Non-dev end users are still trusting that the dev using ICP is running the correct code and making safe updates.