ICP

Blocks_and_Chains

Apart from the usual suspects—BTC, ETH, etc.—it's really hard not to be excited about the value propositions of both the AI and modularity niches. I really love the fundamentals and the aggressive developments from: * Render * ASI (Artificial Superintelligence) * ICP * Celestia * Cartesi * Expresso and a couple of others.

oneknee44

Brave man/woman bringing ICP up around these parts 🤣 Eat those downvotes, that's what got me into ICP and anyone else who has figured out that to make money you do the opposite of what's popular in this place.

oneknee44

Only Blockchain powerful enough to build a Blockchain on top of ICP. Give me your downvotes while you invest in calculators 🤣

vdzz000

BTC, SUI, ICP yo name a few dump all legacy Alt that didn't perform last cycle

stonkgoesbrr

ICP It may has the worst chart of all L1 projects, but the chart is misleading since it was highly manipulated by SBF nad FTX around launch date. If you look at the fundamentals, this project is really developing quickly currently. Here some key facts: - Currently with more than 120 core developers one of the most active projects. For comparison: ETH has around 370, SOL has only 12. - Highest development activity in general right now with more than 6,8K commits. For comparison: ETH has around 11K, SOL has (AGAIN) only 303. - Top 8 ranked by generated monthly fees, ahead of Arbitrum, AVAX, Polygon etc. with an increase rate of 5,8K% MoM - Highest (live) TX/s in comparison to all other L1 with currently around 7,5K Tx/s - Only L1 chain which can run - amongst other things - AI directly on chain. Also another project in the ecosystem (decideAi) has integrated chatgpt 3.5 directly on chain. More to discover, those are just some quick facts. Sure this will get down voted to hell.

beepo7654

ICP is going to melt faces

Ancient_Being0

I'm in the middle of trying to make a decision on ICP right now.. would you mind giving me your brief argument(s) for/against it?

SwingNMisses

Not hard. ICP ICP ICP ICP ICP.

Lee911123

ICP?? All those coins you’ve mentioned have been pretty disappointing throughout previous cycles, maybe except for XMR, but then XMR has been delisted across all of the major exchanges for being too good of a cryptocurrency

MinuteStreet172

In order of importance: XMR BCH NANO ADA ICP(or Arweave, or any solution for storage).

Ancient_Being0

I have heard a lot about ICP, will definitely look into it more mate, thanks.

WR3CKONER

If you like AI projects check out ICP and its ecosystem . Only on blockchain with multiple built in AI apps. DCD/ELNA and it just keeps growing

MinimalGravitas

I'm pretty sure we've read this same article before referring to EOS/NEO/ALGO/LUNA/AVAX/ICP etc etc in various prior cycles...

oneknee44

ICP already beats solana in transactions per second, doesn't keep going to sleep either. It's growing pretty nicely over the last 6 months and actually became deflationary over the last month after someone built a Blockchain on top of the Blockchain, killing all the fud that the tokenomics are horrendous. We can run social networks on chain, actually can pretty much run anything on it as it's it's own internet. To begin with I was genuinely asking you questions to learn bits I didn't have the answer to, but me asking questions seems to have goaded you. It's costs 10's of thousands of dollars to store a single picture on solana🤣 Have a look how cheap ICP is to store data on. Wipes the floor with everyone's crypto. Good luck to you, if you haven't made lots of money already I hope you do 👍

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

ICP defi my boy. A pretty decent indicator that the blockchain is doing something… https://defillama.com/chains

oneknee44

TVL of ICP alone is $2.1 billion

Overestimated123

ICP, No doubt

ZeroFuxYT

ICP, easyly the best alt this cycle.. not just a crypto. WORLD COMPUTER!

galimi

I can't believe people still exist who think ICP doesn't have value

Jimmy_fog

0.5 bitcoin the rest ICP

kyocooro

🤣🤣🤣. Shill shitcoin ICP again ? 🤣🤣🤣

oneknee44

ICP inflation rate 5.75% and within year 4.

nomorebonks

None of those DAO's were actually autonomous with the code restricted from being upgraded by the protocol based solely on voting. Those do exist though - ICP is an actual autonomous functioning DAO, and any project built through the SNS on top of ICP is autonomous as well. There's no possible way to alter the smart contract application without a vote. It's literally impossible because the protocol is in control. True DAO's are just starting.

galimi

ICP

Extension-Rub-4929

What about ICP guys? 🤔

OkMath2290

I think that is a good idea, put some of that 20% into KASPA, ONDO, ICP, & ABT

Emergency-Gene-3

How long did you want to keep it maturing? ICP's DAO allows you to lock tokens anywhere from 6 months to 8 years. 8+ year lock currently yields just 15% p/a in maturity which can be restaked or taken out. In the community they call each other the 8 year gang. 8YG. There is an age bonus the longer you keep it locked. (Not dissolving, which means locked for 8 years, but you haven't started the 8 year count down yet) You need to participate in the proposals which is essentially voting on the code updates, new features, etc that take place on chain. It's currently the only full stack on chain blockchain that can also process AI compute on chain. You can also host dapps or websites on chain. Think Amazon Web Services completely on chain. Sounds a touch technical. Check out the ICP Dashboard, there are charts on who is staking what and what their daily returns are etc.

Rampage-De

ICP!

WR3CKONER

ICP

Powerful-Alarm9394

ICP?

lukas199312

RENDER, ICP, FET, INJ, ONDO, MINA, NEAR & QNT and you’re good mate

WR3CKONER

Just to add, I invested around 5k last November in Alts such as XMR, ADA, DOGE, MOONS and more recently ICP. I took profits where I could and I’m up like 18%. If I would’ve thrown that all into BTC/ETH and sold back in March I’d be up a 100% or more. So yeah lol you live and learn. My portfolio is mostly ICP now, little bit of ADA, I took profits on XMR too early, should’ve taken more profit on ADA back in March. But hopefully it’ll all work out. DOGE& MOONS it’s only couple hundred dollars on each but down on both of them. Hope this helps

WR3CKONER

No such a thing as safe investment in crypto, but safest have been mentioned above. BTC/ETH. This is a casino, and any alt or meme coin can sky rocket or plummet fast as fuck at any time for no reason, or for a reason. Do lots of research and remember not your keys not your coins. Meaning if you keep your coins on a CEX they are just an IOU from that exchange. Buy low sell high, don’t be a pig. Take gains when you can, and don’t get stuck bag holding or get sucked into bullshit influencers or so called crypto gurus. Sure there’s some predictions on each cycle, but it’s mainly doing research and dumb luck. My main investment right now is in ICP which I think is going to be big within the next decade, take a look at it. So yeah no such thing as safe, but there’s educated guesses that can work out. Be careful and remember you are your own bank! Only invest what you are willing to lose. Good luck!

MCThrAwa

>many other coins Other than ICP and XMR they mostly all obscure shit coins. I'm glad some regulation tries to bring some legitimacy to the space

ProfessorOfThought

It's only reasonable to buy altcoins that got a huge uptick in the last bullrun. Coins like LTC, DASH, BCH, COMP, MKR, ICP will melt faces again regardless of what you think of them as past glory! As for the new boys, sleep on FET, SOL, TAO at your own doom!

EnigmaticMJ

Which of the principles I mentioned does ICP adhere to, and how?

SwingNMisses

He failed to mention ICP when it comes to resolving scalability but sadly mentioned Nano. Disregard article.

Jujup27

SUI is 24th and is an excellent pick in my opinion. ETH also has great potential. 2 other I would recommend are KASPA and Solana and for a third ICP, FET or APT are bangers although they are a little lower

oopssomething

ICP worth to buy our still a bashed coin here?

VillageWorth6181

You people are absolutely insane, I can't understand you. ADA is run by a charlatan. 90% down vs BTC over the last few years. Algorand and ICP MIGHT be around in 5 years, but I doubt it. Who on earth are you to say something is undervalued? I think most of the top 20 and more are wildly OVERvalued. Ghost chains with propped up mcaps.

Accomplished-Yam-815

The Internet Computer. Decentralized serverless compute. $ICP thank me later.

LeoCap_NFTs

I really appreciate everyone’s comments. Thank you. For those who commented about tokens that would be great bets, what amount do you feel you should hold now to become a millionaire (USD)? For example, based on the principles of tokenomics, some brought up good projects but when their supply is 50B+ how would dollar cost average over 20-30 years make you wealthy if a supply that massive might see it move from .10 to .80? Or those projects that some mentioned like ICP but it has no max supply so they could always keep making more, right? What holding amount would make one a millionaire with these great projects with great tokenomics? Might be a dumb question or a hard question that no one has the answer to but thought I’d ask anyway

Accomplished-Yam-815

There is only one. $ICP Internet Computer. Thank me later.

WR3CKONER

ICP and anything on the NNS

lukas199312

ICP 100%

luke993

Erm, have you seen the ICP graph?

WR3CKONER

DYOR and remember the golden rule Not your keys Not your coins. Check out ICP it has an extremely promising future long term.

lukas199312

1000 BTC, 250 ETH, 200 FET, 200 ICP, 200 ONDO, 150 PRIME. Spread out for different narratives.

Sour-Bitter-Confused

All time chart of ICP: 😂

Chance-Permit4247

ICP > Kaspa

Hitchie_Rawtin

Compute on the chain (every single action when it's used) burns the token, so the more it's used the more it burns. Two memecoins popped out in the last week that leveraged compute to mine their blockchains which are hosted on the IC, they made it temporarily deflationary yesterday. Good for a stress test to see how much load subnets can handle, but unless they pivot I don't really see much value being added by them apart from burning through ICP, although it is a novel experimental way to launch tokens I guess & if people want to burn through their ICP to gain some memecoins as a gamble I'm a-ok with that.

oopssomething

Alright, so if I would buy ICP, I would have to stake them otherwise any profit will be eaten by inflation?

lukas199312

I see both FET, RENDER, NEAR and ICP 10-20xing at least. So yes

biba8163

> why nobody talks about ICP You are technically illiterate and are getting scammed. Decentralized Compute, Storage, Cloud, AI are all scams. These kind of bullshit hype scams have been around since 2017 with SIA, Golem, etc and are most vaporware and/or not feasible/efficient to compete with public cloud solutions providers who invest billions per year into infrastructure and R&D. Forget Blockchain tech competing with the space, multi-billion dollar companies cannot compete to host the computation, storage, latency and high availability across geographies that the big cloud providers have. Blockchain is not designed for that, is totally inefficient and doesn't have the infrastructure, investment or capacity for. You can't achieve high availability, low latency access and uploads compared to the big cloud providers where you have options to access data from edge locations and/or you are bypassing the public internet entirely by using their global backbone. For low latency applications, data on the blockchain is unusable. For deep archiving 100s of gigabtyes or to a petabyte of data going through the public internet will take an eternity. As for AI, Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook are spending between $30 to $50 Billion per year on AI and all losing money on it. They are saying that it's an arms race they are forced into but they have no idea where the returns are going to come from. OpenAI makes like $4.5 Billion off subscription fees and it's losing billions of dollars a year and they could face bankruptcy in 12 months. They are spending billions on chips which they will need to upgrade to stay competitive. They are spending hundreds of millions on energy costs. The average AI Research Scientist is getting paid over $1 Million in annual compensation at Mag 7 companies. You might as well give your money to a Nigerian Prince if you think a rugpull scam that collected money from gullible crypto investors is going to built something a viable to compete with them.

Aerocryptic

Viruses and hacks existed before any cloud service was born. Maybe it's time for you to use your brain instead of repeating the bs advertisements you've read on the ICP's sub.

Aerocryptic

You sound like an advertisement bro, you probably should take a step back. "imagine an internet with no hack or viruses?" WTF does it have to do with AWS or Google cloud? Do you have any idea of what you're talking about? As for the decentralized cloud i'm already invested in what i consider as a better alternative than ICP

oopssomething

Isnt ICP always unlocking huge amounts of tokens for the devs?

PirateSKB

> Why would I invest in BTC/ETH and maybe 2-3x my investment when I can invest in something that can 30x potentially Yep that's why most people invest in alts in general (not just ICP). Alts have higher risk but also higher reward

Aerocryptic

On chain AI is not the bullish case you think it is. Just like many applications ICP is looking after. Who the F needs messaging on chain? Find me a killer use case with real adoption that ICP covers and i might change my stance

nothingivesaidistrue

[RCP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bYSC6OT6s) > ICP

CommunityMajor3469

I still do not understand why nobody talks about ICP in here. I researched it early this year and converted all the SOL I was buying the last 3 years thinking that would be the best. ICP can literally do anything and scale infinitely, the fastest finalization time, highest transaction speed, and most developers MoM. Not to mention it’s the only blockchain in the world with AI running on chain. In reality, nothing can compete and the recognition it is not getting I believe is due to how the chart looks (manipulated by FTX). Then I had to ask myself one question - why manipulate something? Because nothing can compete.

CommunityMajor3469

Yes, they’re called $BOB (Built on blockchain) and $BURN. Also $DCD, decide AI is huge. These have all contributed to the explosive growth of the cycle burn rate over the last week, making ICP deflationary (most predicted it would take 3 years to achieve this). It’s truly incredible and there is also one of the biggest AI updates ever that will transform the way you see blockchains according to Dominic Williams (founder). Should be coming out within next month. Huge things ahead and an easy 10x this run in my mind.

Accomplished-Yam-815

The Internet Computer is the only one true blockchain to rule them all. $ICP

Loose_Screw_

ICP is certainly an interesting one. Any interesting new dapps come out recently? I tried out the chat one.

CommunityMajor3469

Strongest AI focused coin…? That’s a hyperbole. ICP is the strongest AI coin

Trenkenhard

ICP

WR3CKONER

ICP yes and anything in the NNS ecosystem. DCD is killing it right now

WR3CKONER

ICP, or its ecosystem. Or keep it simple with BTC

TryonTriptik

FET ICP RENDER...A.I is the narrative this Bullrun, forget Bitcoin you're in cryto to make money not sit on the sideline like a scared little bitch.I would research into AI crypto and then go all in, win or bust. Good luck in your crypto journey.

SwingNMisses

It’s frankly embarrassing ICP gets no love. People are over consumed with shitcoins like XMR and SAFE.

nomorebonks

ICP looking pretty good today.

ShortYourLife

The only true Web3 blockchain is ICP.

Accomplished-Yam-815

Internet Computer $ICP The only one true blockchain to rule them all.

oneknee44

ICP

Italianboga

Which coin or token has good potential between these four... Hbar vs Avaax vs Aero vs ICP ?

Rampage-De

Have a look at ICP and what's already possible on the IC blockchain :)

MinimalGravitas

That's even worse than Avalanche and Solana, and almost as bad as ICP or Polkadot! https://x.com/RyanWatkins_/status/1394283802009145348/photo/1

oneknee44

The ICP network isn't just crypto. Actually improves bitcoin and Ethereum etc.

WR3CKONER

Long term hold ICP, quick flip Aerodrome finance, ARB, KASPA

Chance-Permit4247

No mention of ICP?

veegaz

ICP Great project for full stack decentralization, they just recently managed to run GPT2 fully onchain

nomorebonks

ICP has HTTPS outcalls to talk directly to web2 APIs without the need for oracles as well.

nomorebonks

The entire model, data, code, and website you’ll use to interact with it are all contained within a canister smart contract on ICP.

nomorebonks

You can’t decentralize AI without smart contracts and ICP has better security as well.

OderWieOderWatJunge

Why? They're doing