BAT

biba8163

If you see a scammer like Brendan Eich scam people with the BAT token which is down -90% and you decide to buy his 2nd scam project RNDR, it's not an investment, it's a donation.

SpontaneousDream

HA wow, $BAT. Now that is a throwback. I think the real lesson is that product market fit =/= token price appreciation. Best example of it is probably ETH. Has tons of usage on the chain, yet price performance has been bad because there's barely any value accrual to the token.

biba8163

A lesson for shitcoiners is how the value of the token has really nothing to do with any kind of usage or utility. - Polymarket has 300,000 users (probably crypto's most mainstream success) but that shitcoin will never recover to it's ATH - Reminds me of BAT bagholders cheerleading 1 Million Active Monthly Brave Browsers users in 2018 to 2 Million, to 3 Million....to 10+ Million users today but BAT is down -80% from 2018 price

pault133

I've thought about selling my BAT tokens a few times too, but I’ve held on, mainly because the concept behind Brave is still solid. It’s not just another browser; it’s a privacy-first ad platform that actually rewards users for their attention. That’s a unique model. From what I understand, Google can’t easily replicate this without totally disrupting its own ad-driven business model. Firefox has adopted a few similar features, but not the integrated token economy that Brave is building. I think as privacy, ad fatigue, and data ownership become bigger issues in the next decade, BAT could quietly gain real traction, maybe even get acquired or integrated into something bigger. Until then, it’s not costing me anything to hold, and it’s one of the few tokens tied to a working product with actual users. Could it stay flat? Sure. But could it pop later as the attention economy shifts? Possibly. So I’m holding. Let’s see how it plays out."

Educational-Ad-4352

But the point kind of is that you don't need to watch them even if you have turned the ads on. They are small popups and when you see the popup you already have the BAT..you don't need to click and actually watch the ad. You can watch it if it really interests you, but it doesn't affect the amount of BAT you get.

exmachinalibertas

It also doesn't make economic sense. If they're not paying me as much as I would require to watch ads as a job, then I am getting less value by watching the ad and getting BAT versus not watching the ad and recapturing 100% of the value of my time.

cmcalgary

Just got this e-mail. I only use Uphold for Brave BAT's but I guess that's over and done with? Lame

biba8163

> Exchanges are just after money. It's that simple Solid, legit long-term projects that the OP talks about are just solid, long term rugpulls and scams. It's that simple. 7 1/2 years ago, Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong tweeted that Decentralized Apps would replace the top user content and social media apps and centralized companies would be competing against DAOs. > I think most or many user generated content apps on the web today (stack overflow, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, quora, github etc) will all get rebuilt on the decentralized web and every upvote/like/star/follower/etc will send real money to the creator of the content - January 2, 2018 https://gist.github.com/travisbrown/ef999d98e9f79c05221bebb36563e3ec 7 1/2 + years ago, Brain Armstrong was hyping up 2 projects as having legitimate use cases, utility and primed for adoption -- and these were the first 2 ERC-20 tokens listed on Coinbase: - BAT is -92% since 2018 (Brave Browser token) and the - ZRX is -98% since 2018 (Bullshit DEX token hype) Almost 8 years later, there is no indication of anything like this being built on crypto 6+ years later. Still VCs and Foundations generating hype and dumping worthless tokens on gullible crypto investors. All the 2017 projects that people fell for that were going to decentralize Compute, Storage, etc like SIA, Golem, are also down -97% with people investing in them having lost most of their mone;y. Scammers like big brained Brendan Eich, creator of Javascript and founder of the Mozilla foundation were telling investors in 2018 that his BAT scam was going to outpeform BTC https://x.com/BrendanEich/status/956237347649069057 - Breden Eich 2018 After BAT slowly rugpulled investors, Brendan Eich has moved on to his other project RNDR and people are still falling for his solid, legit long term project. In 2015, Emin Gün Sirer was pretty much calling all Alts scams saying they don't do anything innovative and was just project founders trying to enrich themselves to get more BTC. > I am most excited about the efforts to build new value-added services on top of the Bitcoin blockchain....Altcoins are useful as testing grounds for new ideas. Ideas that are deemed too risky or too unknown to integrate into Bitcoin can be tried in the smaller universe of an altcoin. Sadly, however, most of the altcoins in existence do not actually have sufficiently innovative ideas at their core. In many ways, they are reactions to the distribution of wealth in the Bitcoin blockchain - Emin Gün Sirer 2014 https://bitcoinist.com/exclusive-interview-with-professor-emin-gun-sirer/ In 2015, Emin Gün Sirer is probably a billionaire with his own project AVAX which got seed funding from by VCs and has been relentless dumping tokens on gullible investors and will continue to bleed out like the rest of the Alts. Emin joins another professor, Silvio Micali, who also launched his own project ALGO and kept 20% of the supply as a founders reward and the project uses money collected from dumping tokens is used to buy FIFA sponsorship, racing sponsorship, dead file sharing companies Napster, LimerWire, etc and a lot of bullshittery to lure new buyers

light_death-note

Too bad BAT and their wallet was so terribly implemented.

SevereArrivals13

And the Brave browser is great, the execution was lacking though as some countries had no ads or couldn't receive BAT or the wallet would frequently disconnect

OccasionalXerophile

BAT had a use case and vanished into oblivion

Renard2000

BAT

biba8163

> I have learned to be bullish when the overall sentiment is bearish in this sub and reddit as a whole. Are people really this dumb? Do people really believe that basing your investment thesis on inversing /r/cc and buying a failing investment is smart. You know what they say about fools and their money... > ######"Why I'm shorting Luna" > *"I guess its time to buy LUNA!"* > **Do the opposite of what the sub's users say!** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tlxerl/why_im_shorting_luna/i1wbj60/ > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

biba8163

> *"Why I'm shorting Luna"* > I guess its time to buy LUNA! > Do the opposite of what the sub's users say! https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tlxerl/why_im_shorting_luna/i1wbj60/ > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

biba8163

> None of this matters when Bitcoin has 0 dapps Are the Ethereum dApps in the room with us? There is NOT one SINGLE dApp on Ethereum that every day people need or can use. 8 years ago, Ethereum hype was shilling about Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAO) replacing corporations, creating decentralized Uber, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc and Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong kept tweeting all these apps that people would use every day would be decentralized. 8 years later, there is nothing like this exists and there is no indication that this is being built or will be built. Just VCs and Foundations dumping worthless money grab tokens. The only thing that has been built is Shitcoin Casinos like AAVE where you can do leverage plays, trade shitcoin tokens, earn yield farming shitcoins tokens, provide liquidity on shitcoin tokens and call this Shitcoin Casino DeFi although there is not single gwei of Finance and all the players like AAVE, MakerDAO, LINK are completely centralized. > I think most or many user generated content apps on the web today (stack overflow, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, quora, github etc) will all get rebuilt on the decentralized web and every upvote/like/star/follower/etc will send real money to the creator of the content (from January 2018 Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong after shilling BAT, ZRX, etc where investors have lost most their money) https://gist.github.com/travisbrown/ef999d98e9f79c05221bebb36563e3ec > "Decentralized Autonomous Organization" and theres a strong possibility that DAOs replace a lot of the world's biggest corporations...et's take a company like Uber. Uber is a platform that brings people who need rides together with people who have cars. To facilitate this interaction, Uber collects 20% of every ride. With Ethereum and blockchain technology, there is nothing to prevent a bunch of software developers from writing a dApp that creates a decentralized Uber. Instead of 20% per ride, transaction fees are paid to the network and the driver takes home the lions share of the transaction..theres a strong possibility that DAOs replace a lot of the world's biggest corporations. (from 2017) https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/7jj1so/rethereum_i_wrote_this_to_explain_ethereum_in/ > Bitcoin...destroys the environment ETH Maxi shift in narrative from *"ETH will flip BTC"* to *"Don't invest in BTC it'll destroy the environment and its future security mechanism is doomed to fail"* COPE

biba8163

> Silvio himself said... Reminds me of all the BAT fanboys worshipping Brendan Eich in 2018/2019 saying the big brained creator of Javascript, founder of the Mozilla foundation was creating a revolution in digital advertising and I am a fudder who doesn't understand what's happening when I kept telling people BAT was a money grab gimick token. Of course big brained Brenden is a scammer and so is Silvio and they'll say anything to dump on you at a higher price > BAT is a gimmick and it'll never be adopted https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/cflfh9/why_does_brave_need_its_own_currency_why_cant_it/euba6hr/ > simply the best tech I warned people not to fall for the tech meme almost every day back in 2018-2020. Of course people fell for token dump tech memes like ALGO, DOT, ATOM, HBAR, etc over the next few years and everyone has lost money. > You seem to be fixated on tech. Tech means nothing if nobody uses it and if nobody cares. NXT was the most advanced coin in 2013 and still one of the most advanced now. Created by the founder of IOTA, it had a ton going for it. People thought it was like TCP/IP or Linux of blockchains and the future: > - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake pioneered by IOTA founder > - 1.5 minutes block times > - Java > - DEX > - Messaging > - Assets in the blockchain > - Programmable APIs > But what happened? LTC is #4 and doing great and NXT is pretty much dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/

crazyfreak316

Anyone remember when crypto coins competed on tech? Nano, NEO (Antcoin), BAT. 2017 was so good for good tech crypto. Now it's just scam-villa

biba8163

Number 1 advice on r/cryptocurrency has always been "Just buy and hold BTC". NOOBs think every shitcoin rises from down -95% to pump 20X just because SOL did. /r/cc and crypto sentiment is right on this almost every single time when coins are declared scams or dead. > Look at all the paid shills in here, the ripple marketing campaign has no limit to where its paid shills pop up. We're talking about a token which is utilized by literally no institutions, is fully centralized, closed source, printable, all nodes owned by ripple, and vast majority of supply owned by ripple (which has a team full of bankers), only to be sold or distributed at their will. (January 4th, 2018 XRP $3.20) > The more I see these regarded anti-Ripple FUD posts on this subreddit the more I laugh. Please, by all means, sell! > i bought more after reading this https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o6u64/sold_my_all_ripple_after_reading_this_just/ > *"Why I'm shorting Luna"* > I guess its time to buy LUNA! > Do the opposite of what the sub's users say! https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tlxerl/why_im_shorting_luna/i1wbj60/ > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

biba8163

Why are you celebrating scams and scammers? > I am most excited about the efforts to build new value-added services on top of the Bitcoin blockchain....Altcoins are useful as testing grounds for new ideas. Ideas that are deemed too risky or too unknown to integrate into Bitcoin can be tried in the smaller universe of an altcoin. > Sadly, however, most of the altcoins in existence do not actually have sufficiently innovative ideas at their core. In many ways, they are reactions to the distribution of wealth in the Bitcoin blockchain - Emin Gün Sirer 2014 This Scammer said Alts are mostly for Scammers enriching themselves and went on to create a Scam to enrich himself https://x.com/BrendanEich/status/956237347649069057 - Breden Eich 2018 This Scammer told you that his BAT scam was going to outpeform BTC and when it got flushed down the toilet, he moved on to his next scam RENDER

DBRiMatt

It's probably country/region dependent as to where advertisers are targeting; but as an Aussie; I have received over 400 BAT since switching to brave in early 2022. Some months are much better than others; particularly when market sentiment is stronger and more companies want to actually spend on advertising. I wouldn't call it a good investment; but it still is a cool concept of utility.

GiantOneEyedDwarf

I remember using brave years ago. Is it actually giving BAT now?

DBRiMatt

BAT - Fortune favors the brave browser! It's a niche, but I like the circle of life associated with the token. * Brave distributes BAT to users. * Users sell BAT * Advertisers pay Brave for advertising rights * Brave buys back some BAT tokens * Return to point 1

Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

BAT

SquatAngry

> paid BAT shills How can one become a paid shill, I've got dips to buy.

TripleReward

the worst offender in that regard is brave. hands down brave and their paid BAT shills.

DragonGeek42

So I want to attempt to give a somewhat intelligent retort to the whole “Pi is a scam” thing. I’ve been hearing it for almost 5 years, and frankly I’m almost exhausted by it. But here goes. 1. You don’t have any real proof. You’re stating the same criticisms that have been leveled at the project for years. But I have yet to meet anyone who’s had their identities or otherwise stolen in this elaborate $11 billion scheme. Which leads to #2… 2. Why? If you’re a scam team just mining identities for peanuts…. Why would you blow an $11 Billion project for some chump change money selling IDs on the dark web? Or even just to advertisers? It doesn’t make a lot of sense to risk that… especially now. 3. Mining for Pi isn’t “real mining”. Ahem… yah. It probably isn’t. We already know this, dude. Do you think this is a big revelation? Or is that why you call us all noobs? Because we just didn’t understand the obvious here? The best way to understand Pi mining is that is more like allocating and distributing a token based on pushing their “mining” button. There is no Proof of Work requiring large computations. The energy required, like other Proof of Stake projects, uses no more energy than sending an email. So yes, there’s no mining as we understand it. Consensus protocols vs using crypto “POW” protocols and whether one is legit or not is a different debate. You’re paid for engaging the network… almost like BAT (basic attention token). 4. The ol’ Ponzi Scheme… (I’m bringing this one up here because it should be addressed). Pyramid schemes require at their core that someone lose money, and someone else gains at their expense. This is NOT the way Pi works. ALL Pi users get the SAME base mining rate. You can multiply that rate by referring people. This is where most accusations come from. But it’s also identical to how a bank will give you points or bonus money for referring friends and family. This, however, is not the only way to increase your rate. You can also use the Pi browser (like the Brave browser and Basic Attention Token). Run a node (currently in testnet). Be a moderator. Be a validator. Or even apply to be part of their social media efforts (of which I am NOT a part of, FTR). 5. Anyhow, the only piece here that might make some sense is that the platform has a lot of noobs on it. Yes, this might be true. But I would also point out that the entire crypto space is full of users like this. It’s actually sometimes easier to open a crypto account and start buying and selling than it is to buy stocks. I dunno. There’s six years of pontificating about how Pi is a scam. And now it’s here, and all I hear is grumbling that it’s not fair that a “fake coin” that doesn’t do “real mining” just beat out a bunch of pump-and-dump schemes. People have put a lot of energy into calling Pi a scam with total certainty … but it’s definitely bizarre to me that those are the same ones throwing a tantrum because it turns out it’s not. Sorry, these arguments don’t make any sense anymore. They belong in the dust-bin of bad internet conspiracies. ✌️

DBRiMatt

*You received 1.973508 BAT from Brave Software International.* Fortune favours the Brave browser! /s

Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

I ask because I'm about to do something probably stupid soon enough. I have about 170$ in BAT from the last 2-3 years, was going to convert it to CRO to put towards 7.5% staking on defi. I understand CRO is about to go through a shit show.... But as an "investment", this was all free to begin with.

Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

OP, you are asking for validation from the community here about your mining on a device that is not a computer.... Otherwise highly unacceptable talk in these parts. You won't find people here that will take you seriously because life has taught everyone a lesson "nothing is free" and "if it sounds too good to be true..." Personally, if you have made any gains on a phone, and have been able to secure it in ***your own personal wallet***, enjoy. I don't own a PC and have been mining a few currencies over the last 6ish years, only secured around 4k USD worth. BTC, XMR, BAT.

CatatonicMan

Arguably similar. BAT is, at least, transparent about what it is and how/why it's earned. Pi I'm less sure of.

Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

Would you consider this the same approach as BAT? It's still 100% "free".

type_error

It’s ad driven.  When marketers see that the ads don’t work that shit will collapse. I mean… look at BAT

biba8163

It doesn't matter if it's 1 Million memecoins if there is no liquidity and nobody is buying them. There were ~32 Scam Tokens in the top 100 from the Ethereum Scam Casino in 2018. Widely popular scams like OMG (blessed by Vitalik), REQ, ZRX, GNT, BAT, SALT, etc which a lot of investors put huge amounts of money believing were building tech of the future but ended up rugging investors leaving nothing but losses. Solana to this day, has not had this like of scamming. There have been more scams on Ethereum X100 than all other platforms combined. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180115/

biba8163

> Pretty much inverse any opinion that is gaining traction on this sub. The #1 advice on this sub has been just buy and hold BTC. > Remember last time this sub said SOL was a dead coin SOL is the only coin that among hundreds that this has happened to, /r/cc and crypto sentiment is right on this almost every single time when coins are declared dead... > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

biba8163

- January 2018, Brave crosses 1 Million Daily Users, BAT priced at $0.85 I said BAT is a money grab token, BAT has zero do do with a forked Chrome Browser and called BAT creator Brendan Eich is a scammer - January 2025, Brave crosses 100 Million Daily Users BAT price $0.18 Scammer Brendan Eich has moved on to RENDER scam token preying in the gullible with AI hype narrative

biba8163

> Not sure what metric other the speculative price would suggest this Speculative Price is the only thing that matters in a speculative asset. The metrics are just bullshit to lure gullible investors into thinking things are going great. And when the sentiment turns and people call a project/coin dead they are always right and the one exception so far has been SOL. > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

biba8163

I haven't said ETH is dead, just that it will continue to underperform BTC long term like all Alts. And, 99.9% of the time when people start saying a project is dead, they are right and the project is dead or dying. Survivorship bias of a coin like SOL pulling out from $10 too $200 makes will fool you into believing you are some type of genius for going against sentiment. > Decentraland is a dead https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qxogsc/decentraland_is_a_dead_metaverse_and_youre_gonna/ > Is Cosmo Atom a dead project? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cc1y3a/is_cosmo_atom_a_dead_project/ > Is Brave/BAT officially dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18z5jb9/is_bravebat_officially_dead/ > [Serious] OmiseGo: Is this coin dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/11nbl5p/serious_omisego_is_this_coin_dead/ > I thought REQ was dead? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ > Loopring (LRC) - Is it "Dead"? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/tiyxg5/loopring_lrc_is_it_dead/ > DOT, feels like it’s been abandoned https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1grko67/dot_feels_like_its_been_abandoned/

DBRiMatt

Same as my BAT xD

masahirox

I got lucky with a solid flip on solana $200 buy, $250 sell, back in at $230 That’s it lmao Sold my eternal BAT bags right BEFORE the run in March lolllll

biba8163

Stop falling for scams. On top of everything below, RENDER is another moneygrab from multi-project scammer Brendan Eich who also made off like a bandit with BAT > - Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook are spending between $30 to $50 Billion per year on AI and all losing money on it. They are saying that it's an arms race they are forced into but they have no idea where the returns are going to come from. > - OpenAI makes like $4.5 Billion off subscription fees and it's losing billions of dollars a year and they could face bankruptcy in 12 months. > The idea that shitcoins that collect money from selling tokens will create any sort of viable AI product product is an idea that only people in the crypto space would be gullible enough to believe. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fcnakr/singularitynet_fetchai_and_ocean_protocol_launch/lmabhy3/ > Decentralized Compute, Storage, Cloud, AI are all scams. These kind of bullshit hype scams have been around since 2017 with SIA, Golem, etc. These are vaporware and/or not feasible/efficient to compete with public cloud solutions providers who invest billions per year into infrastructure and R&D. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1dron6t/daily_crypto_discussion_june_30_2024_gmt0/layo7nb/

jewellman100

It's soaring if all your holdings are in BAT _My holdings aren't all in BAT_

yell0w8

Nice pump action on BAT

Laughingboy14

Why is BAT up so much today?

p4t0k

BAT

biba8163

I think that someone like Brendan Eich is smart enough to know that the tokennomics and the project would never work as they were marketing. Back in 2017/18 I kept I wrote some long posts as to why it would never work if you looked a bit deeper into it. In early 2018, Brendan Eich tweeted that BAT would outperform BTC and he wanted to bet on it. People were saying, are you seriously doubting and betting against one of the biggest brains in the world, someone who created Javascript and founded Mozilla? These scammers stake their reputation on these moneygrabs. Kind of like Silvio Micali in the last cycle. People were saying, yuh bet against turning winner Silvio Micali you dumbass. They all got rugged.

MichaelAischmann

Would you classify BAT as a scam or is it maybe just a failed project? I noticed it kinda died but I've not heard of malicious intent or anything like that.

biba8163

Scammed you once, shame on them. Scammed you twice, shame on you. | Scammer | Shitcoins |:-----------|------------:| | Jed McCaleb | Mt.Gox, XRP, XLM | | Charles Hoskinsonn | Bitshares, BitUSD, ADA | Dan Larimer | Bitshares, BitUSD, Steem, EOS | Kris Marszalek | Monaco, Crypto.com, multiple bankruptcies | Da Hongfei | NEO, ONT |Sergey Ivanchegl, Dominik Schiener | NXT, JINN, IOTA | Jusin Sun | TRON, BitTorrent | DJ Qian | Qtum, Vechain | Brendan Eich | BAT, RENDER

2peg2city

Brave is a browser, BAT is their useless token you get for looking at adds. The browser doesn't have anything to fo with blockchain

newtonia168

This is how I got into Brave. Didn't even realise it was by BAT at first

Randyd718

what are your sell target for BAT, LINK, VET? think they all hit new ATHs in alt szn?

LocalGMan

Wanna risk that $1000 on a lower cap? Have a look at Carbon Browser. Their token is CSIX and it will likely out perform BAT this bull run

fatlever2

All these dead coins from the past have been pumping since BTC broke to new ATHs. - EOS +120% - IOTA +170% - Tezos +170% - BAT +100% - Holochain +120% Don't make the mistake thinking that your favorite project has now turned things around. Everyone is a genius when the bull runs.

Educational-Ad-4352

Maybe BAT..I think when on-chain rewards open for everyone by default. Then no custodial wallet needed anymore, rewards going global + self serve ads, new roadmap, etc finally happening. If you spread all the bats evenly to current users (1500000000 BAT÷78950000 Users=18,99936668777) so about 19 bats per user..what happens to the price of bat when everybody is able to collect them easily by default..? Yes I have a bag since 2018 and don't have high hopes for this one anymore..just maybe😅

p4t0k

BAT

Technical-Wallaby

I'm only using Uphold because it's the exchange of choice for receiving BAT when using the Brave browser. It used to be Gemini. I find Uphold’s interface too busy compared to Kraken or Coinbase. That being said, I think it's a decent exchange, even though they don't list some assets that I'm interested in.

Bauzzzz

Already in beta. I'm participating in the beta and already getting some bat sent straight to my wallet. I'm pretty excited about the move to on-chain. I think it's going to be a big deal for BAT and Brave in the long term.

Bauzzzz

They already have on-chain rewards without kyc in beta  It currently uses Solana wrapped BAT.

Bauzzzz

They are moving to offering that. They even have onchain rewards via Solana wrapped BAT in beta. I've been getting some of my BAT rewards directly into my wallet for a couple months now. If interested in it, then you can add yourself to the guestlist for it.

doctorj_pedowitz

I just use for ad blocking but hopefully they make it easier to withdraw BAT

thinkingperson

Also, can Brave just issue the rewards to self-cust wallets like metamask and also use L2s or sidechain networks like Arbitrum One or Polygon? Issuing to CEXes just makes BAT accrued quite useless as users have to deal with withdrawal minimums, fees and whatnot on CEXes.

Lillica_Golden_SHIB

Good ol' times when I used to get 20 BAT a month, now just dust

timbulance

Definitely a good browser; I hope BAT succeeds long term.

DessieFahy

Stupid UK stopped me getting my Brave BAT Still use Brave though

DBRiMatt

I hold my BAT, so it will probably fail.... now what?

kirtash93

I use to sell my BAT so it will probably succeed.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The BAT Roadmap 3.0, titled 'The On-Chain Era,' focuses on expanding the utility and adoption of the Basic Attention Token (BAT) within the Brave ecosystem and beyond. Key initiatives include enhancing Brave Rewards with new earning opportunities, expanding self-custody options, and integrating BAT into e-commerce and creator platforms. The roadmap also emphasizes collaboration with Web3 projects and the broader attention economy to promote BAT growth across multiple blockchains. The goal is to provide users and creators with more ways to earn, use, and integrate BAT. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Pure-Disk-8001

I feel like BAT Is such a neat token. I hope it gets more publicity

kehmesis

Don't give a shit about BAT, but I don't understand how anyone would use Chrome over Brave. Makes no sense.

passaty2k

Like so many said… the browser is great… the fact you get BAT is good… but they fucked it all up by using that garbage uphold…

CatatonicMan

BAT ended up being worthless. I gave it an honest shot for a while, but I gave up on it when they wouldn't let me link up another browser. See, *for some godawful reason,* they implemented limitations on the number of times you can link a browser to Uphold. If you run out of your allotted activations... well, you can get fucked, basically. If your UX is that shitty, then your product is a lost cause.

SuperSiayuan

I love the browser and the search engine keeps getting better. Wish I could oay for the VPN and premium search with BAT.....

Django_McFly

I used to use Brave but the * BAT rewards stopped working for me * They were only on Ethereum L1 at the time so I would have need like $40 of BAT just to cover the cost of moving it to. * The browser is jankier than Chrome * The browser is literally just Chrome so it's amazing that's it's jankier some how * Ad blocking was invented in 1996 for Netscape. People may have never heard of it until Brave, but this has been bog standard internet tech available in every browser ever for almost 30 years now. For me, it's 0% a selling point. Every browser supports it.

liquid_at

was a good idea, but didn't really work out. Payouts were virtually non existent and then they changed the BAT they paid to a voucher-token that you could exchange for real bat, if you create a KYC account at a very very very limited number of exchanges that support it. That entirely killed the idea of BAT. If you need a KYC exchange account linked to BAT to be able to receive it, it's a failed project.

gimmedaloofa

They suggested the Chrome browser be broken off and sold. This will never happen imo. They 'may' pay a fine and have to make changes to make it easier for competitors to get on Android and some integrations with their search/ad engines be changed. This may not even happen now that Trump admin coming in. But make no mistake, Google is absolutely a monopoly that has been abusing its power similar to what Microsoft did with IE. I use Brave exclusively but haven't really gotten any BAT for it

sar662

I had a bag of BAT but I couldn't get it out from the browser and I had to reformat the computer. I donated it all to Wikipedia.

BloodFoxxx31

BAT is garbage but the browser is cool.

GaRGa77

I used brave b4 but never fucked with BAT 🤣

Mr_Stimmers

I was using Gemini. Just sold all my BAT a couple of days ago.

kirtash93

Brave is great with or without BAT.

EarningsPal

Earned BAT early but it was never successfully withdrawn from the browser. There was a centralized exchange needed to withdraw at the time.

Aheuhue

I hold a small bag of BAT. Just straight up bought it as speculation Everything is in circulation in a fixed supply, and imo the association is enough (this is crypto after all, utility isn't even a requirement). Imo the token shouldn't have trouble pumping at some point during alt season. The browser is great, though I just use Firefox right now, especially mobile, so that I can listen to YouTube instead of watching

maniloona

Guy said “BAT is lame, Brave wiped my tokens”. It’s a thing that happened, whatever you said doesn’t change or invalidate any of that lol. Brave is okay now, brave did a shit thing back then so it’s lame, what’s hard to understand here lol

maniloona

Did you get into brave like a year ago or some shit or are you intentionally being disingenuous? They literally wiped the vBATs stored in people’s browser sometime back then if they couldn’t transfer it to a partnered custodian. And a lot of countries didn’t have access to a partnered custodian AND sol wrapped BAT wasn’t a thing back then.

Bauzzzz

They are moving to offering an On-Chain Rewards option via Solana wrapped BAT that doesn't require KYC. I'm in the Beta for it right now and its working well. So the custodial stuff should stop being a concern. I could probably make a post with a link for signing up for the guestlist on here...if there's interest. 

CCNightcore

That entire model was a failure to launch. The specifics changed too much and it wasn't compelling. The creators wouldn't know they were making the BAT. Just a terrible idea.

BlueBird884

BAT was an essential part of any r/cryptocurrency portfolio in 2017.

jaimewarlock

I have been using Brave slightly longer than 4 years so was curious if I had anything. When I went to check, the password didn't work. I checked Keepass to verify my password and saw that I had saved a recovery phrase too, so I used that to restore it. Nothing. Nothing at all. No BAT. Which makes me wonder if it is bugged or something. I am a knowledge worker and browse the internet at least 8 hours a day looking for useful information.

Ace-of-Spades88

Never could figure out how to actually get the BAT tokens, but I've been using Brave since 2020 and love it. When I use other computers for web browsing or YouTube I'm taken aback by all the ads. I forgot what an ad-filled internet experience looks like.

mo_y

When I noticed not even Brave was shilling it I was like all right I’m out. Last year I sold off all my BAT and now I just enjoy using Brave.

ReverendAlSharkton

This. I lost all of my BAT because I couldn’t register with uphold. They also lagged on developing stuff like self serve ads. I like the browser but I removed BAT from my portfolio a few years ago.

throwaway92715

So many things going on here. The decision may not happen (it will be appealed), and even if it does, there's no telling what that will do to Chrome's userbase. It may *increase* Chrome's userbase. If Chrome loses users, why would they go to Brave over another competitor like Firefox or Edge? And if Brave does see a surge of new users, does that really mean that BAT would go up?

dormango

I guess it’s probably because they hoped user would give BAT to good content providers but, we all hoarded it instead.

DaoScience

What would Brave need to do to have BAT become a successful and useful token? It seems there is so much potential there. When you start out with the browser with a built in wallet they have a huge advantage they could use to Shepard people into their services. The wallet could connect to their own exchange and the browser could have easy accessible built in crypto features that people would end up using because they are already there with easily clickable icons on their browser anyway.

DBRiMatt

Fortune favours the Brave Browser! /s But, the general sentiment is Brave is amazing, BAT token isn't worth investing, but happy to accumulate for free. I think I've earned in total about 500 BAT over 4 years, which I'll eventually withdraw and convert to something else.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

The coin sucks but the browser is amazing. I've gotten like $300 from BAT though from maybe 4 years. The only thing I don't like and don't know how to fix is that it'll add bookmarks to my bookmarks that I didn't bookmark.

Rsloth

BAT is lame, Brave wiped my tokens

Crypto-Hero

I've been using Brave browser on my computer. It rewards BAT crypto token in exchange to shows you ads (I disabled the function in my OS but still kept receiving monthly BAT tokens). This year so far, I've received about $100 USD in BAT. I exchanged it for BTC yesterday and felt good about doing it! Who doesn't like free money?!

Paratrooper2000

What are thoughts of BAT. I have a small bag, which finally turned green. Should I sell or wait for alt season to come around?

noviwu97

They stopped giving out 0.5 BAT every month for littering our notification bar?

jwz9904

Browse safely and earn BAT