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fractalfocuser

Yep I'd agree. We're in another quiet building stage for crypto. First it was the nerds, then the speculators, and now the first mover normies are coming along. They don't trust it yet (and they shouldn't, skepticism is how banks stay in business) but they're testing the waters. Another 5yrs of development will see the rest of the normies start to move onchain. Use cases need to be proven viable, long term stability needs to be earned, and regulations need to be signed in blood. It took 15 years to go from NCP to TCP/IP and another 10 years for HTML to come along. The dotcom bubble burst in 2000 and people said the internet was a fad. Now I'm writing this on a mobile device with near constant network connection more than 50 years after ARPANET came online. Revolutionary technologies take a lot of time

biba8163

In 2019, I kept warning gullibles not to fall for the tech meme. Of course people fell for token dump tech memes like ALGO, etc. Don't be like bagholding governors. You can do better. > You seem to be fixated on tech. Tech means nothing if nobody uses it and if nobody cares. NXT was the most advanced coin in 2013 and still one of the most advanced now. Created by the founder of IOTA, it had a ton going for it. People thought it was like TCP/IP or Linux of blockchains and the future: > - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake pioneered by IOTA founder > - 1.5 minutes block times > - Java > - DEX > - Messaging > - Assets in the blockchain > - Programmable APIs > But what happened? LTC is #4 and doing great and NXT is pretty much dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/

ShivaDestroyerofLies

Not at all. The more I am around crypto the stronger my belief in common-sense regulations. We should be careful to recognize that you can’t just copy/paste old regulations onto a new asset class but there is absolutely a need for reasonable regulation. Who gets hurt by KYC laws? Scammers, money launders, the black market, people avoiding paying taxes…. But for law-abiding users this is just an annoying step in initial setup & maybe a periodical proof of identity when onboarding more assets. Securities & commodities laws should absolutely fall under their appropriate existing guidelines. Crypto can blend and blur existing definitions but we should endeavor to classify and treat things accordingly. Within the US framework the Howey test is a pretty simple way to sort things and it’s simple enough to say “if it meets the Howey Test” criteria it is a security. Or in other words, if your money is pooled in a common venture where you expect returns through the work of others (a big chunk of DeFi) then it is a security and people should be expected to follow all guidelines designed to protect investors in securities. Does this mean that it’s harder for a 17 year old in Bulgaria to start a fictional hedgefund with plagiarized IP and AI generated team? Yes. Is that bad? No. Likewise mixers serve no legitimate purpose. If you need to hide a financial paper trail then you are doing something that you shouldn’t be doing. I am a big believer in privacy but realistically there is no good reason. That you should be hiding your transactions and the flow of your money so that investors, law enforcement, and tax regulators cannot verify your reported transactions. Yes, in the rare instance of authoritarian regimes there is an argument against regulatory action but 1) exceptions should not define the rule & 2) truly authoritarian regimes will pass laws and crackdown on users regardless of what the civilized world does. The people who are most vocal about preventing regulation are the people who benefit the most from exploiting vulnerable or uneducated investors. And those people deserve far worse than having their opinions ignored.

Astropin

I'm saying if you understand dominant protocols then you understand why Bitcoin can't be replaced. If you think it can then you don't understand how dominant protocols work. TCP/IP is the dominant protocol of the Internet. It has been around since the 70's. It doesn't get replaced...it gets built on top of. Bitcoin will get built on top of ...not replaced. Volatile? Yes... risky? No. There is a difference.

GkyIuR

C'mon really? I meant major intelligence units . Money can find you everything, pay the people who managed the forums/socials where he posted, pay the people managing eventual proxy servers he used, get his IP, pay the people working at his ISP to find out which user had that IP in a certain time frame etc. It's not really that hard if you have funds to burn.

KPS-UK77

It's not really comparable, TCP/IP is literally a protocol, it was serving a purpose globally. Currently BTC is not integrated into any system. Really there's nothing stopping the whales suddenly crashing in, selling up everything and switching another altcoin, which would I turn cause that coin price to rocket. Until BTC is integrated into our banking/financial world it's still a speculative.

oespanyol

Best analogy is the TCP/IP protocol for the internet. Not the best, but one of the first ones that quickly became the dominant. Very difficult to replace now unless there is a new paradigm.

MT-Capital

What do you mean hiding a second wallet? How are they going to track your IP if there's no power and the grid is down.

Invest_Expert

Oh right, because hiding a second wallet is super practical during a collapse, but hiding gold is totally impossible. Makes perfect sense. You also forget that they can track your IP the moment you touch that wallet. Digital doesn’t mean invisible.

JanPB

It's just like in the early 1990s when people thought (including Warren Buffett) that digital commerce wasn't real. I remember snickering around that time: "Microsoft? And what do they produce? Just software? How is that sustainable?" What the TCP/IP does to information, Bitcoin does to the money. Also keep in mind that nothing has intrinsic value except water and food. Everything else (gold included) relies on a mere social convention or agreement for it to function as a carrier of value.

Hour-Oil-1666

The best would be to open source the project - the thing is that BTC is built around privacy - for people it's hard to trust 3rd party to put their private info in, specially if it can corelate with IP/email/whatever when stored.

riscten

**Good** You actually have a privacy policy. **Bad** The terms are awful. "Information We Collect \[...\] \- Transaction information: details of your Bitcoin purchases that you manually enter, including date, amount, and price. \- Technical data: IP address, browser type, operating system, and other technical data related to your access to the site." "We do not share your personal information with third parties, except in the following circumstances: Service providers: we may share information with third parties that help us operate and improve our site, always under confidentiality agreements." **NO THANK YOU** With Bitcoin you need more than to just store people's investment information on a database and call it a day. At the very least the data should be encrypted on your end and users should control the decryption key. The key should never leave the user's device. You should be completely unaware of the transactions your users log.

KingofTheTorrentine

There was a lot of deceptive marketing like the belief that you were buying some sort of IP or contract.

CMDR_BitMedler

I mean, to be fair, this project was different in that you actually got something - the clones came with a full 3D mesh rigged and you owned the IP. I know a bunch of artists that were able to use that to jump start a healthy career of making cool shit both by having a trendy eye catcher character and the network of people they caught up in it because Nike.

sun_cardinal

Elaborate, because to me it seems like the server or instance hosting the original NFT image was taken down for violating cloudflare's policies. How does that tie into networking? I am also assuming you mean networking in the TCP/IP sense.

Crypto-Wizards

The guy on the team was also the first man to even get a BTC. his IP was 3 Miles away from Sakamoto IP :) so ya you keep on brainstorming pal

BaconGreaseShot

Of all the theories I've heard, Dr. Jack Kruse has the most compelling take on how bitcoin was originally created - The concept was started by the Jewish mob as a way to launder money. In 1973 Meyer Lansky is released from jail and went on to search for the most brilliant IT person to setup a P2P money laundering system for Murder Inc and CIA. That's how he discovered David Chaum Chaum works from 1981 - 1998 creating and running Digicash. Couple of his customers are Duetche Bank, Mark Twain Bank (ran by mob) they were trying to take Lanky's idea and use Chaum's system, Lansky dies in 1983, who was trying to build his private P2P network. Chaum open sources it in around 1987-1989, then the Cypher Punks come in. Digicash is sold in 1998 to Naveen Jain who ran Infosis, which was google before google. Len Sassaman, a PHD candicate under David Chaum shows up. He realized what Chaum, Adam Back, what everyone didn't know. Timestamping is key. Sassaman was involved in the creation of TCP/IP for TOR and that's where he learned about timestamping. If it didn't go open source and Sassaman wasn't the PHD candicate for Chaum, bitcoin would have never happened. 02:19:45 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yALOChgRrHQ&t=8437s

StrangerMurky

I can tell you’re a BTC maxi but for a fully integrated web3 economy to work it will require some key crypto projects like ETH and other emerging layer 1 competitors and a trusted source to verify and validate off chain data. BTC is very similar to gold in that it is a good hedge against inflation, scarcity and demand are key price drivers. We are so early into web3 that link is acting like the introduction of HTTPS/ IP to the internet age I.e. web2

StrangerMurky

Chainlink is like https/ IP It’s connecting everything

intelw1zard

People certainly went to lengths to hide his identity. When the BitcoinTalk forum db breach happened. I was excited to dig thru it to solely go look @ the Satoshi user entry. His IP address was not in the db as it had been manually removed by an admin or Satoshi himself.

Solana_Chief

Take a look at Tokyniq, they suggested me a great one. Unfortunately there are tons of shady exchanges that supposedly doesn't require KYC and your money could be at risk, especially if you are using a VPN with a spammy IP, be careful with it...but their suggestion is working fine for me, so far, so good.

Solana_Chief

Take a look at Tokyniq, they suggested me a great one. Unfortunately there are tons of shady exchanges that supposedly doesn't require KYC and your money could be at risk, especially if you are using a VPN with a spammy IP, be careful with it...but their suggestion is working fine for me, so far, so good.

SeaworthinessOk8381

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coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The article discusses how generative AI is flattening creativity by obscuring authorship and erasing ownership, as seen in cases like Studio Ghibli-style AI art and unauthorized use of IP. It argues that blockchain technology can address these issues by providing proof of provenance, enabling creators to cryptographically register their work, automate royalties, and track derivatives. This infrastructure would protect artists, ensure authenticity, and preserve creative integrity in the digital age. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

HSuke

Which is completely pointless because all governments block by IP address, not by DNS resolution.

McBurger

All domain names are registered through a pseudo-public-private organization called ICANN. Registrars (like GoDaddy or Namecheap etc) pay ICANN a fee of some $180,000 annually for the right to register domain names, reselling them as per protocol to hopefully turn a profit. ICANN is based in California and regulates what top-level domains exist, and controls who can register them. .eu, .mil, .edu, etc they are responsible for this. Your DNS provider (often your ISP, or anyone else with a DNS server) is responsible for routing domain name records to their appropriate IP addresses of their servers. As you can imagine, other nations aren’t always so wild on the idea that a US-based semi-private organization is responsible for all domain names in their entire country’s economy. There are many, many examples of the US govt seizing domain names from piracy websites or illegal content. Theoretically, the US government could force ICANN to delist all .ru domains, for example, to really fuck with all Russian websites, email addresses, and their economy, if they wanted. The US could do this to any company, any nation, any domain name in the world if they wanted, outside of nations like China that have their own internet. Even your normal DNS provider could just choose to blacklist domain names. So far to date, they generally don’t, but the ideology of crypto says they shouldn’t even have the *ability* to. For example, spectrum internet could change a simple record to redirect all traffic on their network intended for starlink.com to go to spectrum.com instead. Anyway this is all stuff that namecoin’s blockchain aimed to fix. A decentralized system with no central authority. No possibility for censorship. You spend namecoins to register a domain, it’s on the blockchain, no one can take it from you, and no one can dispute where that domain names points to. The NMC you spend goes as a block reward to miners. It was all a really, really good use case of blockchain for a system that needs fixing.

SeemedGood

When you print the world reserve currency **and** have the biggest economy in the world **and** are a net importer instead of a net exporter **and** almost all of what you export is food, IP, and your currency, tariffs will hurt your net trading partners *a lot more* than they’ll hurt you. Especially when you’ve just printed a lot more money than your trading partners (thanks idiotic Covid policy!) and thus the net effect of your inflationary policy is aggregate price increases in your home turf and you’re importing the vast majority of your manufactured goods. Under that circumstance you *absolutely need* your trading partners to print their money a bit faster than you are. The tariffs are just a tool for forcing them to do that.

PlasticEyebrow

Personally I have an airgapped hardware wallet, with a Sparrow read only setup. Sparrow is pointed at my node, so each time I start Sparrow I see my funds and I get the info from my own node. Whatever you use, you should be able to configure it to talk to your node. That way, each time you check your funds, there isn't some third parties node that can see (and log) that your IP address is checking your wallet address. It gives you more privacy.

GeeEyeDoe

Technology tends to have a first in rule to it. The first best thing is the most popular. Amazon, Netflix, TCP/IP, cellular networks, etc. People try to make copies but the first one has the networking and marketing power such that it will not be overtaken unless someone finds a much better alternative (ie VHS to DVD to Digital Streaming). Bitcoin was the first of its nature. Decentralized blockchain protocol with an immaculate conception whose creator(S) vanished. It is the best so far. Sure, someone could make a copy and vanish, some may use it, but it will never get the same level of adoption and admiration at the first, Bitcoin, which is trusted and proven.

alchem04

Jeez you really hate China don't you? Are you hoping that USA will go to war against China or something?  You really think America is so great? That they've blessed the world with all these wonderful gifts and made the world a better place? China has been the factory of the world for the last 50 years, basically responsible for the increase in the material standard of living for the entire world by producing goods cheaply, working for low wages nobody in the west would be willing to accept. You really think that the people in America want to work in factories for shit wages? To be slave Labor as you call it? Yes, China steals copyrights and IP cos to them that's how they play the game. The west exploits China by taking advantage of their workforce, paying them shit wages to produce cheap goods to maximize their profit margins, abd China gets even by stealing their patents and IP. Both sides are exploiting each other, trying to extract as much as they can from the other. Nobody is morally superior here.

vicanonymous

It's used on the darknet, places such as XMRbazaar, etc. It's only the IP, sender, receiver, and the amount that is hidden.

biba8163

> Silvio himself said... Reminds me of all the BAT fanboys worshipping Brendan Eich in 2018/2019 saying the big brained creator of Javascript, founder of the Mozilla foundation was creating a revolution in digital advertising and I am a fudder who doesn't understand what's happening when I kept telling people BAT was a money grab gimick token. Of course big brained Brenden is a scammer and so is Silvio and they'll say anything to dump on you at a higher price > BAT is a gimmick and it'll never be adopted https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/cflfh9/why_does_brave_need_its_own_currency_why_cant_it/euba6hr/ > simply the best tech I warned people not to fall for the tech meme almost every day back in 2018-2020. Of course people fell for token dump tech memes like ALGO, DOT, ATOM, HBAR, etc over the next few years and everyone has lost money. > You seem to be fixated on tech. Tech means nothing if nobody uses it and if nobody cares. NXT was the most advanced coin in 2013 and still one of the most advanced now. Created by the founder of IOTA, it had a ton going for it. People thought it was like TCP/IP or Linux of blockchains and the future: > - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake pioneered by IOTA founder > - 1.5 minutes block times > - Java > - DEX > - Messaging > - Assets in the blockchain > - Programmable APIs > But what happened? LTC is #4 and doing great and NXT is pretty much dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/

Ur_mothers_keeper

So the money itself, there's really no way to know who paid. Buying LTC on a KYC exchange can lead authorities to come asking where the money went. If you live in an oppressive country, the technicality that is "they can't probv anything" is probably not enough to save you from anything. They can track the LTC, the KYC stuff, but not the Monero, but that might not be enough for you. The library... They cannot find out who you are from the Monero transaction. But they can get the library server's logs and your IP from there. You'd better hope there's no way to track who used the library, or use some way to hide that like a VPN or Tor. So essentially, the xmr portion of what you're doing is protective, but everything else about it may not be. Don't rely only on xmr to hide your activities from a government, you use it as one of the tools to do so.

LuptinPitman

Yeah, don't do that. That's the privacy part. If you use a public node you will be linking your IP address to the wallet address and all of the funds in it. Spin up your own full node. Install an Electrum server on it. Install your own instance of mempool.space (if you want to query your transactions). Use Tailscale to connect to your node remotely. Set up a watch only wallet on an app that you point to your own Electrum server on your node to check your balances. BlueWallet is a good choice. Nunchuk is another. Sparrow Wallet is the gold standard for desktop. Using fresh addresses for each deposit has nothing to do with your xpub. That is just additional good hygiene to make it more difficult for chain analysis companies to build a profile related to your funds and their sources and destination. DO NOT type your xpub into a random block explorer on the open Internet if you care about privacy. Having a watch-only wallet pointed at your own node is best practices for checking balances and grabbing fresh addresses for deposits.

PlasticEyebrow

Run your own node. Point your wallet to your node. Now only your node can see that your IP address is checking your wallet address regularly. As for the quantum computing threat, I think you are overthinking it. We are a long way from quantum computers being able to break sha-256 encryption, and by that time there will be quantum proof wallets.

admin_default

The TCP/IP system you’re using now has been the standard for 50+ years, with no signs of abating. Protocol level technologies can persist far longer than anyone will be alive.

Objective_Digit

AOL was/is a service provider. Bitcoin is a protocol. TCP/IP is an old, old protocol. It still hasn't been supplanted. "Slow" is completely relative. It's far faster than shipping gold. Monero may be faster (for whatever that's worth, after all a Bitcoin wallet shows a 0 confirmation tx immediately) but it's less secure. https://howmanyconfs.com Privacy can built onto Bitcoin. Lightning txs are private. Monero will always be a target for regulation. >(finite supply neither creates nor preserves value Explain then how Monero is down 90% vs Bitcoin. This tail emission rubbish is what Monero heads use to defend no supply cap.

DiedOnTitan

An important step is to set up a full verification Bitcoin node. And attach your wallet to it. Using someone else's node leaks your IP address and transactions. Also, when (not if) the next fork happens, you want to make sure your rules, the one your node adheres to, are set up properly. Running your own node is the **only** way to know that you truly own your Bitcoin. Strike is good. But...don't trust. Verify.

DiedOnTitan

If you run a node on a dedicated server, there is not much to get compromised. If you put your wallet on there with the private keys, you risk your funds. That is why it is crucial to keep your private keys separate from your node. A node does leak the IP Address, unless you run it exclusively under TOR. My priority is to secure private keys. The node is a much lower security priority, but a vital piece of the full Bitcoin picture.

Dfirestart

got it! so running my own node doesn’t expose my network and IP address? confused as i know nothing about network security 🤔

procabiak

You don't own something if it can be taken away. Physical assets can be stripped away from you. They could be done through "fair" exchange like the gold ban EO 6102 of 1933 in the USA, which gave dollars in return. Or they could be stripped off by force like the Land Seizures of 1945 in China, and in return, they gave nothing and promoted the murders of ex-landlords. Least of all war and conquest. Many digital assets can be stripped from you. Your bank accounts aren't yours. Your media isn't yours. Your media licenses aren't even yours. Even Intellectual Property isn't yours to fully own. It's stripped away from you after 50~70~120 years, depending on where you live and what type of creation it is. Gotta thank the Mouse for that 120 year stretch. Bitcoin, on the other hand, is very, very hard to strip away from you (I say that, because it's not perfect e.g. quantum computing), but only if you protect it so. You could be sleasy and reuse addresses, and quantum computing yoinks it out of you once they're ready. You could write your seed phrase on a post-it note, and any raid on your home could strip it away. You could memorise the seed phrase completely in your head, and lose it completely to a $5 wrench smack to the face and your attacker walks away rich and grinning ear to ear. I'm sure at this point you might realise True Ownership is what you can take to the grave and deprive others the joy of. Everything else is just a Very Long Term Lease agreement that anyone can break at any time. We might have a good lease for the next 50 years, or we could have another Mao ZeDong within the next 4 years. Russian conquest could break out all over the EU. Sony could revoke all your licenses. Banks could drain all your dollars. Disney could steal your IP. True ownership, with Bitcoin, is memorising the seed phrase completely in your head, take $5,000 wrenches worth of beatings, and only when you've been juiced of all your blood, your attacker walks away with a really sore arm and a bad day. (I'm sure it's easier to use some other tool at some point). The only other thing in the world you can truly own is your own memories and experiences, which is really what owning Bitcoin is. (At least, that will remain true until someone can extract our memories). It is ironic we can't own the flesh that contains said memories and experiences given there is so many ways it can be deprived of in this world.

DiedOnTitan

Each node contains the full blockchain and when your wallet connects to it, it pulls each tx in your wallet from that node. And it sees your IP address. This is a major opsec leak. Also, there is nothing stopping that node from transmitting information that is not aligned with your expectations. Running a node enforces your rules. Not your node, not your rules.

__Ken_Adams__

When you have a bitcoin wallet & are sending & receiving transactions, the wallet must use a full node to broadcast/relay the transaction. Most wallets default to using a node operated by the wallet company or some other public node(s). Those nodes can see your IP address & possibly more. When you run your own node, you can use a wallet that allows you to set & use your node for broadcasting instead. A second advantage is that you know for sure that you are communicating with a trusted node that is validating transactions accurately. Although it's a low risk, there are potential shenanigans that could happen when communicating with an untrusted node.

StiGuy06

Hey man, I was in a *really* similar spot not too long ago. Was barely holding things together, job sucked, rent was late, my cat didn’t even look me in the eyes anymore. One night, I’m doomscrolling and KEYCAT just shows up on my feed. I laughed at first, like, "ha ha funny cat with piano." Then I saw it was actually *licensed*, listed on Coinbase, and somehow Elon and GameStop were mixed in? I thought, “Whatever, let’s see what a meme with real IP can do.” * Portfolio’s up * My mood’s up * I go outside voluntarily * My cat now sleeps *next* to me instead of on the router * I even started making music again because that stupid piano jingle got stuck in my head Not saying it fixes everything, but KEYCAT really helped me out

Traditional-Fan-9315

Well, it won't last forever. The best thing is for another country to come in and bring them to the adult talking table., so they save face but it happens soon. Don't know what would make trump happy right now. Maybe have China stop stealing IP and have an international court to settle IP theft? Also for them to stop going around tariffs through other countries like Vietnam. I feel America probably does some shady stuff but it looks like China, mostly, rn.

SunDreamShineDay

>Sounds like a massive risk for centralization Centralized? Can you tell me how just 1 of the things below can happen? how can Someone doublespend? how can Someone reverse transactions? how can Someone create more XRP? how can Someone censor a user from the network? how can Someone force a code update on the network? how can Someone owning XRP get rights to code base, validators, network and governance? The XRPL was the first blockchain that was not a Bitcoin clone The XRPL offered the first crypto decentralized exchange The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple did not create the XRPL and XRP Ripple does not own the XRPL and does not distribute XRP Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP

SoggyGrayDuck

And most people don't realize that this would also fix the quality and flat out fake products that are now showing up everywhere. I laughed so hard when someone said that China might decide to ignore our IP and patents and steal it. Uh, do they not realize that's been happening for a long time already?

rgnet1

That question’s been asked since bitcoin’s invention and there’s been plenty of active friction. SEC put blockades up constantly until a judge ruled they can’t just block it without reason. IRS ruled spending a coffee’s worth of bitcoin is a taxable event same as selling a block of $100k. Banks actively propagandized first that it was a scam then that it’s unsafe, then that it’s worthless… until now they all have it as an investment option. Bitcoin is a protocol, same as TCP/IP is the ruleset the internet uses to communicate. You can’t shut it down. You can create friction. As long as “free” democracy countries continue to uphold an open internet (ie not China, Russia etc), bitcoin is neutral communication like every other bit of net traffic. Although even in those closed countries, VPNs can circumvent. Napster was shut down because it was centralized. Torrents are still used because bittorrent is just a decentralized protocol. And no, torrents aren’t just for criminals, same as decoupled money from government isn’t. Blizzard used to use torrents (they still do I think?) to distribute its massive Warcraft patches because centralized distribution would fail on patch day.

kirtash93


Objective_Digit

It's not the same. Bitcoin is a protocol, not a product. Where are the other versions of BitTorrent or TCP/IP?

SunDreamShineDay

Centralized? Perhaps you know more than I then. Can you tell me how just 1 of the things below can happen? how can Someone doublespend? how can Someone reverse transactions? how can Someone create more XRP? how can Someone censor a user from the network? how can Someone force a code update on the network? how can Someone owning XRP get rights to code base, validators, network and governance? The XRPL was the first blockchain that was not a Bitcoin clone The XRPL offered the first crypto decentralized exchange The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple did not create the XRPL and XRP Ripple does not own the XRPL and does not distribute XRP Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP

kirtash93

Here we go again. 

DreamingTooLong

You have log into your router settings Find the IP address to the computer that’s running the bitcoin node It starts with 192.168.0.x Look for the option for port forwarding You want to forward port 8333 for the IP address of the computer you are using to run the node This will activate the incoming connections If that doesn’t work A last resort option that isn’t recommended is setting your router DMZ setting to the IP address of your node Much better to just get port forwarding to work on port 8333

Aggressive_Finish798

AI is an IP nightmare. The sad reality is that no courts or countries are willing to do anything about it, for fear that it hampers their stake in the AI race. Turn the blind eye to achieve the AGI.

SlooperDoop

Hide your IP. You don't want any connection between your Crypto accounts and any other part of your electronic footprint. Every connection is potential scambait.

SlooperDoop

Never ever touch your crypto without using a VPN. Besides the absolutely required security, you get to have an IP in any country you want.

DreamingTooLong

I live in Michigan with 400mbps cable internet, I set my NordVPN IP to Washington DC area

thistimelineisweird

I'd rather AI companies just get sued to the point that they stop allowing such possible theft in the first place. But they're far more likely to do this just to pass on blame to the users and not themselves. FWIW, I have my doubts that a style is considered enforceable IP, especially if no one is using it for profit, but definitely using trademarked names in the generation absolutely should be a no-go. Still, as a photographer who has had images stolen on social media, it'd be nice to see a blockchain-based solution to track things like this. The conventional solutions are terrible.

Remarkable_Sleep_944

 congratulations on embarrassing yourself, you can contact Sherlock Holmes and Batman for all I care, we are not the same person and an IP check will prove it, you let your paranoia run wild! 😂

AvatarOfMomus

That's assuming they could find who did the market manipulation. If they were smart about it then it wouldn't be obvious, at which point they just need to extract the funds and get them overseas to somewhere they can be laundered or are outside the reach of the US legal system. What I mean about verified users is that literally every account is individually identified. Since all accounts are a known quantity and there is no "instant signup" sort of system to use the market they can do things like issue unique keys to every user, link them to IP addresses or similar, and otherwise seriously cut down what's called their "attack surface". The short-short version is basically that the critical systems aren't on the public internet in any real way, so even finding something to attack is difficult, let alone gaining any kind of access and then finding an exploit to use.

diHobbes

I think Bitcoin will be used for much longer than that. Bitcoin is a protocol, basically a language for computers. Just like languages for humans the bitcoin protocol will evolve and improve so there won't be a need for a replacement. The same thing will happen with other internet protocols such as TCP/IP or the internet as a whole, it will evolve and adapt.

Ego92

easy. check the account, track IP, get the mail and find info. find the person and force him or her to send their bitcoins or give their wallet passphrase. it happens more often than one thinks

Tasty-Apartment-8235

Dude it clearly says that individuals who got breached are on infected devices. Clearly, it's just a keylogger that monitored individuals visiting which websites, entering which phones and they got the IP already anyways. Binance has more than 170 million users. This is 0.07% of the users.

etherenum

NFT's as a non-fungible token have huge potential, but so far we're only really seeing the digital art usecase 99% of the digital art is noise, but there are some OG's like CryptoPunks that have provenance - these are what the art world will agree will be valuable, just as in the real world But as for other usecases, I'm more interested to see NFT's used in Law (IP), supply chain management (think verifying transfer of ownership) and real estate (fractionalised ownership) I personally like Breitling's adoption of NFT's which can prove authenticity of luxury items (replacing a certificate that you used to have to keep hold of)

SunDreamShineDay

>No. I also don’t hold bitcoin for the same reason. Not holding a coin based on dex volume makes zero sense to me. >Usage of XRP as a bridge currency is supposedly demand neutral. Not usage, ODL is demand neutral, not the usage of XRP as a bridge currency, ODL transactions are demand neutral because they constitute a small fraction of the overall XRP market activity and do not significantly influence its price. >So the value is in the number of transactions and the fees are revenue. Value is determined by more than those two variables, that is like saying Nike’s value is the amount of shoes produced and the revenue generated by their sales. The value of XRP comes from many things, - Utility in Payments - the ease of which payments can be made and the rails and on/off ramps available - Liquidity - liquidity is the King of all markets, all of them, and the XRP liquidity available is mucho - Ripple the company and their Partnerships - 1,200+ employees in 6 offices on 4 continents with strategic partnerships, an example would be their Payment license in Ireland which allows them access to all EU countries - Scarcity and Supply Control - people who bag on Ripple as dumping on the market are the ones who do not understand why the escrow was established and the unlocking and re-locking - Network Effect - one of the oldest chains, the first chain to have a dex, the support the chain has from companies who invest in the XRPLs growth using grants for projects and startups - Speculation and Investment - refer to my Bloomberg TV+ comment - Decentralization - those who think Ripple = XRPL and XRPL = Ripple are those who don’t understand Ripple did not create the XRPL or XRP, they own no IP or patents of the XRPL or XRP, they do not own the trademark of the XRPL and XRP, the chain is an open source network that is decentralized, some equate XRP ownership as decentralization, bit when asked to show how someone can reverse transactions, censor a user from the network, create more XRP, force code update on the network, or doublespend…… they can’t. - Regulatory Clarity - the value of this one alone is more than the 150 million spent defending against the SEC and the 50 million fine they paid. XRP is the only coin with clarity coming from a Federal Court, XRP in and of itself is not a security. The value this brings for institutions, both domestic and global is what we will be seeing over the next 1-3 years. >Am I making sense? I want to revisit market cap Here are the reasons why I believe market cap is a meaningless metric for a commodity like XRP, these reasons are why market cap should not be used as an indicator for the health or growth of a blockchain or it’s native layer level 1 token. • ⁠Market cap doesn’t = value - All that happened was more investors were willing to pay a higher price. In the vast majority of cases, no underlying value was added to these assets, did the network get more users, launch a new technology, or achieve more mainstream adoption? • ⁠Market cap only reflects the last transaction price - it assumes all sellers, buyers, and even all holders, including those that aren’t selling or buying, are at the last transaction price. • ⁠Circulating supply is over accounted - The problem is that it’s hard to tell how much of a coin or token’s supply is available for trading at any given time, and coins lost or unavailable are NOT excluded when calculating market cap (multiplying the circulating supply X last transaction price) • ⁠Market cap doesn’t represent real money invested - if the market cap rises or falls by $100 million, it doesn’t mean $100 million has entered or exited from the asset, in no way helps in understanding the value. Price represents what actually occurs as a result of specific supply and demand conditions, while value is an economic concept that equates all potential future benefits. Square peg, round hole.

ColonelKlink87

It's definitely something you have to be cautious with for sure. I've used a handful of services for trading and they all require this. I at minimum did a little research on the service before using it but not everyone will do that. Security would be a big focus on this if I get the itch to make it happen. What are your thoughts on Coinbase's Fast Connection option compared to API keys? From how I understand it at a high level, if uses your Coinbase account as the authorization method to trade instead of API keys. Also, a lot of exchanges offer whitelisting of IP address so this to me would be another additional security measure. I'm big into security as far as using every method I can to secure any online account I use but that's only as good as the provider of the service as well. Appreciate the feedback! :-D

KCConnor

Miners devs and wallet users decide how Bitcoin works, or doesn't. Laws are irrelevant. I am eager for the first government to require IP geo blacklisting of mining companies inside it's borders, or similar baloney. Then watch the temper tantrum unfold.

Puzzleheaded-Bug-223

Nice read/explanation. How can TCP/IP-like technology be commercialised though?

DaveinOakland

You would need to take steps to fake your IP and pretend to be from another country.

CunningStunt_1

My mistake. I misunderstood your post as chainlink is not a Blockchain. It's a oracle network, which is similar, as they both have nodes that work together to form a consensus. Chainlinks CCIP sits on top of 100s of other blockchains, like TCP/IP, does to bring the internet together.

lordmairtis

yeah, but with TCP/IP it was ARPANET's invention, the TCP/IP is literally defined in an RFC (request for change) that was the collection of standards specific to that network, it wasn't some random team thinking we should come up with a bridge and get rich. ARPANET community defined a protocol, it was efficient and it spread to other networks very quickly.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A new ransomware group, 'Mora_001,' is exploiting two Fortinet authentication bypass vulnerabilities (CVE-2024-55591 and CVE-2025-24472) to deploy a custom ransomware strain called SuperBlack. The attack chain involves gaining 'super_admin' privileges, creating admin accounts, stealing data, and encrypting files for double extortion. Links to LockBit ransomware are suspected due to similarities in encryption methods, ransom notes, and IP overlaps. Forescout has provided indicators of compromise to help mitigate these attacks. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

SunDreamShineDay

Ownership of the coin does not allow for centralized control of the blockchain, ownership of XRP does not give rights to code base, validators, network and governance. If you truly believe it is centralized can you tell me: how Someone can reverse transactions how Someone can censor a user from the network how Someone can create more XRP how Someone can force code update on the network. how Someone can doublespend Calling the XRPL centralized, when it was the first blockchain to have a decentralized exchange on it’s layer 1 makes zero sense. The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple does not own the XRPL and XRP Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP If you still believe it is centralized, make an argument that it is and support it with facts.

rechtim

The underlying IP of strategies b2b software wore than make up for any shortcomings in the btc market. They're not entire a bitcoin treasury. Also Saylor bought 2b in coins for an avg price of 97k ea. they're doing fine at strategy.

SilverLight2000

What about IP?

zany_obscurity

So what if utility? What if IP? What if Branding?

DuckDuckMosss

Congrats! Hackers and scammers are now trying to hack and track your IP address. Good luck!

GaRGa77

Bitcoin is like TCP/IP

MiltronB

Yes dude. I told you. Bitcoin is the hardest form of money every created. All the rest is just noise. You guys want to build the next TCP/IP; have at it. But that is not "anti-establishment". And if you think "smart contracts" are sticking it up to the man, you are very wrong bro. I see you are from Oz. You guys have it worst than the Brits or the Canadians. You thnk cardano fixes that? No bro. Charles will be the first to give your keys to the government if they dont like what you are doing.

Roland_91_

Being compatible with the current system does not mean you are intrinsically part of the system. Regulation will exist. Being marked 'illlegal'  is not the only metric for being classed as anti establishment.  The aim here is for cardano to be the standardised blockchain protocol, like TCP/IP, Bluetooth, 5g, etc.  It's not about complying with regulation. They are trying to write the regulations.

HammersGhost

Doesn’t STORY IP do the same thing?

Btcyoda

I understand the comparison with the internet. Bitcoin is a Protocol so compare it to TCP/IP. That also explains why it doesn't need much innovation, if it works it works. Next money is nothing new, Bitcoin is a better form. It is replacing fiat, which is a terrible solution, and gold/silver As such it is hard to compare with a new application as the internet. Since we have Lightning it is suitable to be used large scale. So that is only a few years ongoing. In its current form it is not sure if LN can on-board all humans. It is reasonable to expect more innovation in that respect (LN or another layer all together). All things combined it is hard to see anything that comes close to it, so comparisons will only work limited. The internet was giving a free flow of information and changed the world. Bitcoin is combining the Store of Value of gold and the transportabiliy of fiat. It combines the best of gold and fiat while leaving out the bad. If it succeeds it will have a bigger impact on humanity than the internet had.

SunDreamShineDay

Centralized? Perhaps you know more than I then. Can you tell me how just 1 of things can happen? how can Someone can doublespend? how can Someone can reverse transactions? how can Someone can create more XRP? how can Someone can censor a user from the network? how can Someone can force a code update on the network? how can Someone owning XRP gives rights to code base, validators, network and governance? Please tell me how any of those things can be done and I will agree it is centralized and sell my bag and send you the tx’s. The XRPL offered the first crypto decentralized exchange The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple does not own the XRPL and XRP, Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP Back up your claim and show where I am incorrect on the above.

Medium_Change4574

Surely many have asked before but what the hell is PI and IP? Shit spawned like TON and NOT back then

AVGmetSperzieboon

It's IP, MOVE, OM and MNT everytime... Do i need to take that hint?

FiatFree

Pi and IP are still green for the day and the last hour WTF are they?!

pakovm

Your transactions will still be trackable on-chain, simply other nodes won't know what IP address sent the transaction as long as all you connections are using either the V2 transport protocol (P2P encryption) or TOR.

goldtank123

Still don’t know what that IP coin is nor why is hasn’t dumped. Meanwhile im holding on it dear life with massive losses.

DiedOnTitan

I don’t see it the way you do. Bitcoin is an Internet protocol. Like TCP/IP. There were competing protocols at this layer, but TCP/IP won and now we build on top of it. HTTP/S came along much later and brought the web to us. Arguing for a better TCP/IP is pointless. Internet protocols are designed to be layered and they should not strive to handle all use cases. In about 3 halvings, the block reward will be about even between newly minted Bitcoin and transaction fees. From that point forward there will be more reward to miners from transactions. If the price of bitcoin does not cover mining expenses then miners will simply shut down until the equilibrium of difficulty to reward is stabilized. I am not worried at all about the future of mining as the current algorithm will adjust according to market dynamics. If it is not painfully obvious at this time that Bitcoin is the clear winner, then you are free to continue speculating in shitcoins and hope you get out before the inevitable rug pull or their continual slide against the value of Bitcoin. Money is a winner take all war. The market has chosen.

SunDreamShineDay

TLDR: you don’t understand the things you try and talk about with people who do understand. >A public shit chain is a public L1 that nobody uses and it’s only reason for its existence is to scam people because nobody actually uses it. So you think the XRP Ledger is Ripple and Ripple is the XRP Ledger. Ripple doesn’t own it, run it, have patents about it, own any IP or the trademarks for XRPL and XRP. So you saying the L1 blockchain exists to scam people doesn’t make sense to those who know what you don’t. I believe what you are meaning to say is that you think Ripple exists to scam people. But because you word it the way you do and conflate the words XRPL/XRP/L1 to Ripple, it shows you don’t understand who Ripple is, what the XRP Ledger is, and why XRP is not ‘owned’ by Ripple, was never pre-mined or distributed by Ripple, and how Ripple can exist without the XRPL and XRP, and how the XRPL and XRP can exist without Ripple. > Also, XRPL is not decentralized as it crashed a month ago and had to be manually restarted according to David Schwartz. You have misunderstood whatever you read then. The way the XRPL operated during the time when some nodes crashed is proof and a great example of its decentralized behavior and code. The Ledger did not crash. The XRPL operated according to code and behaved as written and as intended. When an occurrence happens where enough nodes have an issue, the nodes unaffected finish whatever transaction isn’t closed and then it temporary halts to protect itself and the integrity of the network. The nodes affected had not updated their software to the newest version, these computers had their software crash and simultaneously reboot when an account’s ledger object ID was used in the CheckID field of a CheckCash transaction. The unaffected nodes knew that the threshold was met for the amount of nodes having an issue, and to protect the network it did as coded and finished closing the transaction it was performing, then temporarily halted to protect itself and the integrity of the network until enough nodes came back online. In under 10 minutes enough nodes came back online and updated and the nodes across the network resumed transactions. This is decentralization. No one had to restart the whole network. when a node crash occurred, the remaining nodes continued to operate and maintain the ledger’s overall integrity. This allowed the network to start recovering once the issue was identified. As intended. > Nobody uses XRPL anyways and their TVL reflects that. More ignorant speak illustrating your misunderstanding about what you speak of. Why would a chain whose primary focus is on payments need or have a high TVL? Do you understand? No you don’t. Why would a chain running on consensus being used for fast low-cost payments and cross-border remittances, rather than decentralized finance (DeFi) applications have a low TVL? You don’t know what you don’t know. The fact it has a low TVL shows the XRPL is being primarily used for payments. Get it? >They’re not a leader in the industry The company you believe exists to scam people was shown in court when sued by the SEC to not exist to scam people. Read that again. The company you believe exists to scam people was shown in court when sued by the SEC to not exist to scam people. Under the full deep dive microscope of the SEC not a single transaction or action taken by Ripple was found to be a scam. The company with 1,400+ employees in 5 offices on 4 continents has proven themselves leaders in the industry by taking on the SEC and delivering a win for ALL of crypto. I am heavy bags in both link and xrp. I am here for the gains. Last 12 months Link is down -24% and XRP is up 274%, last 6 months link is up 43% and XRP up 329%. If you were about the gains too you would have spent less time shit talking about Ripple/XRPL/XRP and more time educating yourself on them, +300% there for anyone not infected with a false narrative. There is no one ring to rule them all, you have fell trap to being divided and being a divisor yourself, spreading FUD and it’s not even intelligent hate, you look and sound dumb on the matter you are hating on. Link too will see a great return of investment, XRP has been a great return on investment, neither are done either. Good luck on your bags. Chainlink rules! XRP rules this bull run, +329%

godofleet

>Why does Bitcoin even exist? Because there is no other/better tool that does what the bitcoin protocol and network do. There is no better digital sound monetary tool... Why does Email as a protocol exist? What does TCP/IP exist? Why not just use fax machines and snail mail?

SomeYak5426

If your story is genuinely 100% true, then go to the police and file a formal complaint. Given it was so long ago, I would assume nothing will happen though. Nobody is going to freeze an account over a screenshot of something from 7 ago, and a reference to an IP address. Screenshots aren’t proof of anything. Even providing tx records that can be verified independently still only show that a transfer occurred, it wouldn’t explain why. Maybe you bought something illegal and so that’s why you not report it? If you are an exchange, would you really want to get involved in these sorts of conflicts? Luno is not a large or significant exchange, so it’s just a random website from an outsiders PoV. Maybe someone logged in, posed as you, and then a “legitimate” exchange occurred. Maybe the other person paid for the BTC. Maybe the account it was sent to is also in your name. Maybe there’s some larger scam that you’re not aware of. It’s not clear, and they’re almost certainly not going to tell you anything about who owns the account because you may be lying, and because of data protection laws. There’s a whole industry around false claim and “recovery” scams, impersonators using other people IDs etc, so it has created a situation where exchanges even if they wanted to resolve every case of genuine theft, are not really in a position to do so. I have never “hacked” or stolen anyone’s crypto, but have been accused of doing so because people lie. It happens all the time. Do not underestimate how easily some people will lie for money, and exchanges will see lots of these false claims and often don’t want to get involved. Coinbase is regulated so if you provide a police report they might respond, otherwise it’s extremely unlikely they’ll do anything. How do they even know you’re the wallet holder of the address the tokens came from? How do they know the wallet even has anything to do with luno? How do they know you’re not lying? How do they know you weren’t scamming them or trying to revert a trade, or just phishing for information about the account holder? If they’re issued a subpoena/warrant and are required by law to disclose the account holder to the police as part of a criminal investigation, then that’s very different to a random person asking them without any actual proof any crime has even occurred. It also means you have to tell the story to the police so may be prosecuted if it turns out you’re lying, which from the exchanges PoV is good because it reduces the chances someone will makes false claim if they have to lie to police first. It also means they can contact the police and verify the story is as you’ve provided it to the m because sometimes people will even fabricate police reports in elaborate scams. There are a lot of “recovery” scammers and “investigators” who are essentially just scammers themselves, and will lie, hack, and threaten people into submission.

DiedOnTitan

That’s like saying there are no better protocols than TCP/IP. There may be, but it doesn’t matter. TCP/IP won and we are building on top of it. Block speed does not matter. It’s about settlement assurance. How much energy over time does it take to reverse a transaction? Bitcoin crushes all other PoW blockchains combined and it is not even close.

SunDreamShineDay

>Centralized crap. If it is centralized then can you tell me: how Someone can doublespend how Someone can reverse transactions how Someone can create more XRP how Someone can censor a user from the network how Someone can force a code update on the network. how Someone owning XRP gets rights to code base, validators, network and governance Calling the XRPL centralized, when it was the first blockchain to have a decentralized exchange on it’s layer 1 makes zero sense. The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple does not own the XRPL and XRP Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP If it is “centralized crap”, tell me how it is not a decentralized blockchain.

Worried_Possession_6

XRP or HBAR if you are looking for something a little long term , for a quick trade maybe check out IP

76darkstar

I did this a week or so ago with Story IP. Borrowed $650 BTC from myself and bought Story IP two days later it went from$1.81 to $8. I paid myself back $650 I borrowed plus paid 100% interest and bought $650 more BTC and still have $700 house money in IP that’ll I’ll hold forever or until I need it, it’s Sitting there printing money as we speak

castorfromtheva

There are some things your dream was obviously missing, though: - Bitcoin is, was and will always be for everyone. Also for those people/groups/institutions/states you don't want to own bitcoin. - You can't reinvent the wheel in the same manner like you can't reinvent a better Bitcoin. Bitcoin like tcp/IP is the low lever protocol for the internet if money. Rest assured, it won't go away or will be replaced. - Bitcoin is not "crypto". Even if *you* have always been for both of it. The opposite is the case. As long as you're a proponent of "crypto" = altcoins = shitcoins, you haven't go to the core of the essence anyways. - Bitcoin's distribution becomes healthier and healthier with the time going by.. More 50% of the circulating supply if the the hands of usual people, average Joes. And that won't change anytime soon. The opposite is the case: Bitcoin adoption is on-going worldwide and due to many reasons this won't change anytime soon. - while you are dreaming your dream and seek for deeper meanings in it while depending your life and circumstances on it obviously, I'm rather gonna continue stacking dese sats and hodl. Nevertheless, it was a pleasure having you on our side. Good bye.

Western-Kangaroo-854

Not at all where I was going, you have to understand in business, putting something in the books does not equal sell sell sell. Just are they about to leverage tech to capitalize our assets in a very fanciful, tinfoil hat way of looking at it. Assets. Intellectual property is an asset, and I'm speculating they're about to IP the assets onto the books, not sell land, Jack up entry fees, etc etc etc Y'all confuse assets and revenue..

Dictator-Tom

I called it to see what their angle was. They were fishing for API information and private keys. Told him I had his IP and was coming for him then hung up. It was entertaining for about 5 seconds.

LordIommi68

I was under the impression that you have your wallet connect to your node through a tcp/IP network connection. Most wallets have network settings that allow it to connect to nodes (usually random by default) for verification.