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Yaxiom

Just use an old windows pc, set up a incoming vpn. Probably have to pay $14 for dynamic dns, if you don’t have a permanent IP, then just remote home and do it yourself

Mohammad_Noruzi

did you changed your IP or used any VPN?

Nanobirds

“It isn’t as valuable as I perceive?” That’s an interesting way to pose the question. But I think I understand what you’re getting at, and I’ll do my best to respond. To be clear, I don’t conflate market price with intrinsic value. In my view, Nano’s current valuation reflects a combination of low adoption, structural limitations, and missed opportunities—not a lack of utility. Here’s how I break it down: ⸻ Why hasn’t Nano appreciated in value? My take: • No financial incentives or hype mechanics – There’s no mining, no staking, no token burns, no inflation schedule—nothing that creates yield or fuels attention cycles. In a market largely driven by incentives and narrative loops, that’s a structural disadvantage. There’s no engine to attract speculative capital or sustain trading interest. • Deflationary and volatile – A fixed supply with zero inflation leads to inherent volatility, especially in low-liquidity environments. That repels short-term traders and makes price discovery less stable. • Not listed on major exchanges – Nano declined to pay listing fees during a critical growth window. Whether principled or shortsighted, that decision limited access, trading volume, and visibility. In a momentum-driven ecosystem, that lack of exposure had lasting consequences. • Two major blows at key inflection points – The BitGrail theft and spam-based network attacks hit during pivotal bull runs—moments when Nano needed to prove reliability. They weren’t fatal, but they severely undermined trust and stalled broader adoption. • Highly anecdotal, but telling – I spoke with an acquaintance working in the crypto division of a major financial institution—someone deeply embedded in the space. He had never heard of Nano. After going through the protocol, he was genuinely impressed. One conversation doesn’t prove anything, but it highlights a broader issue: the discovery process in crypto is broken. Between noise, marketing hype, and inflated promises, real utility often gets buried. It’s like sifting through a landfill for working code. • Adoption isn’t meritocratic – Institutional interest is driven by regulation, internal incentives, and brand optics—not necessarily by technical merit. • Good tech often lags adoption – EVs, MP3s, TCP/IP—many technologies sat dormant until macro conditions shifted. Utility often takes a back seat to timing. • I fully accept it may never happen – Not every sound technology succeeds. Nano may stay niche or never see widespread use. That’s a realistic possibility. • Still, Nano fits where the future could be headed – A feeless, energy-efficient, deflationary currency aligns well with emerging use cases: machine-to-machine transactions, AI-driven microeconomies, and scalable value transfer. If the market ever pivots toward actual function, Nano is structurally ready. ⸻ So no—I’m not holding out of blind belief. I simply see something rare: a protocol built for utility, not hype. I know the risks. But I’m okay being early… or wrong. Not trying to convince you—but do any of these points resonate with you?

aquahealer

I had a Livecoin account. It went under(scammed/hacked) and I lost 10k back then which is worth 100k today. I had a Binance account, then they pulled some isht and said I can't login from an America IP address, lost 15k there which is probably worth another 100k today. I have peanuts in a Kraken account which I predict will take all my crypto sometime within the next decade. Buy and get a stick

Qwahzi

Nano uses the same incentive model as most open source software/protocols (Linux, TCP/IP, HTTP, SMTP, etc). The technology itself (and the businesses/benefits that technology can bring) are the incentive. You don't need everyone to run a node, just enough to keep it decentralized

Qwahzi

Nano was given away for free via CAPTCHA faucet, and when audited, its initial distribution pattern looked very similar to Bitcoin's early distribution pattern: - https://imgur.com/a/u6nEYXS - https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/h7fmge/ The network itself is the incentive. Just like people use Linux, HTTP, TCP/IP, etc - the benefits of the technology itself (and the business opportunities they create) are where the incentive comes from

casiocoin

No they don’t capture IP addresses, maybe KYC exchanges but not defi wallets. Even if this was true did there’s nothing illegal about selling your wallet.

GreedVault

It's really up to you, but just so you know these wallets (metamask, phantom) do capture IPs. If they uses them for illegal activity and gets caught, the history of your wallet + IP could potentially be traced back to you.

essjay2009

When you say your old phone was "wiped", did you wipe it? I'm confused about what happened there. I'm assuming you didn't just give a phone with all your accounts logged in to a random guy, so did they do some sort of recovery attack hence the apple verification code you mentioned? Is this an iPhone? Have you checked on iCloud FindMy whether the phone is actually wiped? Have you checked recent activity on iCloud, Apple, your email, and Blockchain for recent logins / activity - they usually list IP address, time, and location and will give you some answers. If it is an iPhone, you have to wipe it yourself, they can't do it for you even if they have your phone (they would also need your iCloud password which obviously you should never share). If you gave them your phone with all your accounts still logged in, and then gave them a TOTP or SMS 2FA code *over the phone* whilst they've got your old phone, with all the accounts still logged in, in their hands, then I think it's pretty obvious what happened (again assuming not because that would be like giving someone digital power of attorney, they could do anything they wanted).

GreedVault

If those who bought his NFTs also received the IP rights to the music, it might have been worthwhile.

CryptCranker0808

> And yet Apple eventually prevailed. Every computer OS company that existed at that time failed, including the version of Apple that was dependent upon Macintosh OS, the Apple-II, and the LISA. The only reason apple even exists today is the ipod and iphone. > TCP/IP is far from perfect yet is still the preferred internet protocol. Bitcoin doesn't have to be perfect to keep its crown. Protocols are hard to usurp. You can't be a protocol when no one builds on or uses your system.

Objective_Digit

> A great question. And the answer is...? >You know how Microsoft crushed Apple and all other comers in the late 80's and early 90's? There were dozens of competing operating systems and computer companies, and Microsoft was neither the best nor the biggest nor the fastest nor the earliest, not the most profitable, not the most secure and not the most stable or reliable. Microsoft crushed them because they made it the easiest to build and operate software of any kind on their system and have it just work well enough. They didn't care if you ran their software or a competitors - so long as you ran it on DOS/Windows. They didn't care if you used hardware they liked or hardware of a competitor - So long as you ran it on DOS/Windows. They didn't even care if their contracts paid very well - so long as those contracts put DOS/Windows on every computer sold. And yet Apple eventually prevailed. >The BTC I got into over a decade ago was not a ponzi scheme - It intended to useful for many things. We compared it to TCP/IP. TCP/IP is far from perfect yet is still the preferred internet protocol. Bitcoin doesn't have to be perfect to keep its crown. Protocols are hard to usurp.

CryptCranker0808

> Why is Bitcoin's price so much better than Ethereum's if everyone's using the latter? A great question. > And if Ethereum has so tps would it matter if Bitcoin has a bigger market cap? It's not TPS. You keep pretending that the real numbers on Ethereum are comparable the imagined or theoretical numbers on other altcoins. Other altcoins either have almost no actual usage, or only bots like Steem, EOS, or BCH used to have. They didn't have any fees that amounted to anything, so the numbers didn't matter. > They not meaningful if they are just being used to transfer other altcoins. Then no one would pay for them. And yet, they are. You know how Microsoft crushed Apple and all other comers in the late 80's and early 90's? There were dozens of competing operating systems and computer companies, and Microsoft was neither the best nor the biggest nor the fastest nor the earliest, not the most profitable, not the most secure and not the most stable or reliable. Microsoft crushed them because they made it the easiest to build and operate software of any kind on their system and have it just work well enough. They didn't care if you ran their software or a competitors - so long as you ran it on DOS/Windows. They didn't care if you used hardware they liked or hardware of a competitor - So long as you ran it on DOS/Windows. They didn't even care if their contracts paid very well - so long as those contracts put DOS/Windows on every computer sold. Markets are not rational in the short term, and Ethereum's usage metrics don't matter to most investors - until they do. In order to not be essentially a ponzi scheme, coins need real use and real usefulness. The BTC I got into over a decade ago was not a ponzi scheme - It intended to useful for many things. We compared it to TCP/IP.

exiadf19

another rug pull using other people IP ... matt furie and picopico doesn't have anything to do with this shit coin.

SpendHefty6066

Good to hear that. When you use someone else’s node, you are trusting what their node tells you. And you leak your IP address and Bitcoin addresses to them. Don’t trust. Verify.

Jad8484

I really hope she was smart enough to just sell the IP to some other idiot who only made 4k. Like why even bother?

MittenSplits

Well we have about 10,000 attempts and none of them have done it. You're thinking about BRC like a financial asset with competitors. It is fundamentally a computer networking protocol, and those have much different adoption patterns. The internet only has need/room for one native monetary layer that is neutral and decentralized, and that layer has been chosen by an emergent process Another helpful protocol to compare it to is chess. You can go make your own version where the pawns can move backwards, but everyone is too busy with the original protocol to care. Just like much of the internet tech stack (TCP/IP, SMTP) Bitcoin has been relatively ossified by it's large user base.

Murky_Citron_1799

Too much, and you never know what website will track your IP and it later gets tied to your address by some coinbase or ledger leak .. it's not even uncommon. It's fairly guaranteed your shit will be leaked and linked. 

Smoking-Coyote06

>And I don’t know about you, but I do a lot more than one transaction a year. Im storing capital, so I dont do many transactions with my btc, but I get your point. I dont use btc for daily transactions, just saving money. >It’s not decentralized because even though a few people can spin up a node There are thousands of reachable nodes. >The internet became ubiquitous as quickly as infrastructure could be built. Nope. ARPANET was live in 1969. TCP/IP was invented in 1973/74, ans ARPANET transitioned to the new protocols in 1983. So oddly enough, Krugman said the internet was useless 17 years after the modern internet was invented. And here you are, similarly calling the bitcoin network worthless after 16 years... Btc is the fastest asset to reach $1T market cap. When Krugman made that statement 4 of the Mag 7 weren't public companies, and Apple and Amazon were less than $2B each. He was categorically wrong, after 30 years that is clear. Bitcoin has already been successful in its first 16 years...its next 30 will be interesting as well.

Smoking-Coyote06

You're still mixing the concepts. Yes, there are centralized exchanges. And yes, many people purchase and store the bitcoin on centralized exchanges. That has nothing to do with the distributed, decentralized network protocol. >And none of Bitcoin the assets value is derived from the networks decentralization. That is incorrect. Btc value is definitely based on the security of the network and the decentralized nature of the network. If bitcoin (network) could be hacked (insecurity) or if the US gov could walk into Bitcoin headquarters and turn of the servers (centralization), btc the asset would not be as valuable. It's the facts that it is highly secure, and not centralized that gives it value to a global market. >90% of transactions are to/from centralized exchanges and 90% of Bitcoin “owners” have never even made a Bitcoin transaction, they’ve just bought and held on an exchange. What percentage of internet users actually tap into their own SMTP server to send an email? How regularly check their IMAP or POP3 servers to receive an email. Do you think most people actually understand TCP/IP, or do they just type a web address and click go? Centralized exchanges, online brokerages like Fidelity, BlackRock, Charles Schwab, JP Morgan, etc. will be the way most people access btc, the same way most people get to the internet via Gmail, Google, safari, etc.

kill-dill

Wow it's great that they can't track your spending!! Now if only your phone didn't track every second of your day including fiat on and off ramps, IP, every wallet address you've ever copy-pasted, your contacts, the monero sites you visit, and your Grandma's secret recipe, you might have some privacy one day!

whattheshadow

he connected via his real IP one time only, out of millions of connections, that’s how he got caught

Vaxtin

I still remember Bitcoin faucet. Website just gave you bitcoins but was IP restricted and eventually you could only do it one time per IP… and now obviously you can’t at all.

Martinator92

There was a theoretical attack of sorts that would have brought the next monero upgrade effective ring size down to 3.9 from 16, the study cipheranalysis did afaik required extremely special circumstances and wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt conclusive, I think they practically flooded the monero TXs and certain outputs had a higher chance of being connected. Also IP analysis attacks which are irrelevant if you run your own node and dandelion++ prevents them effectively Future-wise FCMP++ would increase the ring size to every single TX in chain, non-trusted setups for zk-snarks are also being researched as they don't rely on decoys at all and remove some attack vectors (of course introducing new ones, that's the point of the research :D). There are optimization and implementation contests for a couple hundred XMR for the more mathematically or cryptographically-inclined

footofwrath

I hear you, and it's good advice. I did try that with IP. Mainly because it loved to pump 2-3x, I rode that camel twice, though once I caught in the drop the first time I started being more careful with HODLing. There's literally no gain in a 10x pump if you hold it and it drops back to your starting point (or nearby). And knowing when to pull that out is the exact skill needed for trading anyway, so that's where I turned my focus. I don't trade on the 1m though. I enter on the 1m to get the entry point, but I plan the trades on the 5m. I do watch the 15 but whenever I think that might be more relaxing, I check and I see in the 6x 15m candles, the price has barely moved in total more than it did in the 5m bracket - too much back and forth movement. 1, I don't like being up and then being back down again - that's not wasted money, it's wasted time, since you wait an hour, and you're almost entirely back where you started from. the 5 usually only has one or two pullbacks; and they're usually smaller, and it seems to be the average/ideal price movement zone in terms of total movement vs net gain over the period. Depends highly on the instrument of course but I watch a handful of assets and trade when the movement looks the least "duplicated". I find that works best at the 5m chart. Anyway I would rather cut short a profit than see it drift back to zero. If it comes back I can always take the trade again. Yes it means more time trading and less time enjoying the day, but while I'm still learning that's better anyway. Btw what's your view on Heiken Ashi bars, if you have one?

Acceptable_Hand8622

2011. I remember price was about $1.00 and my then wife dismissed it. We had just bought 2 IP the year before. We had 2 kids in private school and planning a very late wedding. Budget was tight every dollar counts. Made first purchase about 1 month ago. All in a week ago. Made money from property sales. Now single but own my home. life is so much easier now. Still early. It looks like I have found my next investment and hobby. DCA to 2029 bull run then early retirement. Stack more if opportunities arise. If I had bought in 2011, it would have sold when I divorced if not before. You get the price you deserve.

B1ggusDckus

Nobody is saying he was still in academia. The paper is one of the most concise papers, I'm sure it wasn't his first publication. There is also his leaked IP address from California.

GreedVault

Strong IP is crucial, it can stand the test of time and some IPs are shit tier, and the collaborations arent bringing any real benefits.

FearTheLeaf

Probably not like you're 5 but... He was the only miner. Back then it was just a program on your computer that created bitcoin roughly every ten minutes. Then he gave the program to other people and now they're connected and those other people agreed that he has those bitcoins because he started the blockchain and when those other people got the software it downloaded the blockchain from his computer. They have no reason to steal the code at this point because it's just research and development at this point and the power of it is in the network so they need others anyways. I suppose if those people had network logs they could have gotten his IP address but the circle of people who were first invited to this were likely very private, security conscious and highly technical.

SunDreamShineDay

>Xrp is centralised shit! Centralization? OK, so if it is centralized shit tell me how just 1 of the things below can happen? how can Someone doublespend? how can Someone reverse transactions? how can Someone create more XRP? how can Someone censor a user from the network? how can Someone force a code update on the network? how can Someone owning XRP get rights to code base, validators, network and governance? The XRPL was the first blockchain that was not a Bitcoin clone The XRPL offered the first crypto decentralized exchange The XRPL and XRP are open-source Ripple did not create the XRPL and XRP Ripple does not own the XRPL and does not distribute XRP Ripple does not own the IP or Trademark of XRPL and XRP

whattheshadow

Ok, will scrape his reddit history, then analyze with chatgpt for clues, osint his username, check for leaked passwords, try to bribe a mod for IP, devise a spearfishing campaign, and will report back 🤩

Fantastic-Newt-9844

In the essence of btc, my preference is to spin up what I can so I can be the verification. I know what I do with my data :)  You can get a raspberry pi setup for this, look at PiVPN. Also consider PiHole for network wide ad blocking. You can also self host a DNS server if you're concerned about trusting 3rd parties with IP resolving 

SANcapITY

IP is fundamentally incompatible with basic libertarian property rights. It is bunk and shouldn't exist. Incidentally, do you believe that you own your bitcoin when you control your private key, or merely possess it? Stephen Kinsella argues, I think very convincingly, that one cannot own bitcoin.

KingPettyx

Lmao all they have to do is track your IP address to find you brotha

SmoothGoing

The quotes is to point out selective and arbitrary labeling. Is opentimestamps spam? Is copyright of some IP spam? Anchoring of some other blockchain project? Is someone's wedding date spam? Childbirth? Real estate deeds? Ads from miners and exchanges? Bitcoin whitepaper? Wikileaks? tributes to people of past and present, rickrolls, bible quotes? satanic rites? racist shit? ordinals? Well of course ordinals are spam but they are not using that opcode anyway. So going through all that and deciding where a line needs to be drawn what is spam and what isn't.. a self-crowned arbiters of where "useful" and "ok" stops, and "spam" begins? Luke and Mathhh..yooo Krater are not the authority on this but act like it. They each absolutely can make their videos, and write code patches, and gather followers. That's fine. They can even act high and mighty like they know better. But I also can point things out, just for my own goodfeelz.

Mantis-Prawn

TCP/IP (internet as we know it) was created in 1983, whilst it took to the late 90s for the average househeld to be connected.

Remarkable-Ride8820

I mean it must be possible. Figuring out your address with an IP address is how people get swatted

EkariKeimei

IP protocol

Satoshiman256

You're making yourself a target for reconnaissance, hackers will collect small pieces of data over time like usernames, email addresses, posting history, possibly IP addresses etc. OP has posted saying he owns over a million dollars of Bitcoin, he is now a target. It's this careless attitude to security that causes us to see posts of "I got scammed out of XXX BTC"

East-Day-7888

Gaming tokens are complete shit, and meaningless. Nfts could be awesome if any dev would stop guarding the ip to allow for interoperability. Chances are, it will never happen. Closest, we will ever get it amiibos, and even those are stuck within the Nintendo IP

cannedshrimp

Presumably all payments steak n shake is taking are lightning payments (not sure). Lightning already has better privacy characteristics than layer 1 bitcoin already. Realistically, most people using lightning today are using it through a custodian. If you are using lightning through a custodian you can look into chaumian e-cash (Cashu is one implementation) chaumian e-cash is 100% custodial, but has nearly perfect privacy. All the custodian knows is that someone has requested a payment for x amount and that it is their money. The only info the custodian would have on you is from your IP address. It's also feeless if the person you are paying uses the same custodian. If the payment is to another custodian or you are paying a lightning invoice the custodian makes the payment kn your behalf. You can basically think of it as a private, open Bitcoin bank built on lightning. All this said, you are of course suppose to self report everything to the IRS per the law... So 🤷

Smiling_Jack_

Do you... do you think websites/apps don't know your IP? How do you think routing works?

Acceptable_Hand8622

Wait till start of next financial year before you sell IP. You will then have 12 months before you have to pay the CGT. Then you could take some BTC out to pay the CGT once BTC has gone up. More CGT when you cash out som BTC. That’s how it works in Australia. Our FY starts in July. Yours is October though. Can you afford to wait? Maybe take a loan out using property as collateral if you can’t. Just ideas, not FA.

GreedVault

Avalanche is pretty good at securing strong IP, maplestory and FIFA.

Asleep_Blueberry_177

The problem is. You can't make a Bitcoin 2.0 with a similar proof of work mechanism. (Rewarding miners, while creating coats to secure the network). The organic grown, largest network is what secures BTC. To recreate a bitcoin 2.0, (without any central entity everyone has to trust), the network is weak (or uses a different algorithm). It is easy to short the new currency, rent miners and attack the new BTC 2.0 network and kill it with a 51% attack and make big money. (BTC is the other way round, you make money by working for it, not attacking it). Also BTC is more like a protocol and it has the first mover advantage. Everyone is using TCP/IP on the Internet, we can easily use a "better" transfer protocols, and there are nieches where this is required and done, but you will not change all of the Internets communication, because someone has a "better" idea. You just don't replace millions of working machines as long as it gets done what is required. Everyone knows this, so why would a different transfer protocol replace all of this?

uncapchad

Really hard to say because so many agencies are involved in AML and other surveillance, also what *list* your new part of the world might be on. I would stay away from VPNs and public wiFi. VPN detection is pretty robust and that can trigger risk alert, public wiFi is just dangerous, anywhere. But you could also trigger an alert logging in from a foreign IP, especially one several TZs away. There's no straight answer. Digital finance and securty are dark arts, nobody knows. Worst of all, you only find out after the fact. Use Bisq or similar for the time being?

Acceptable_Hand8622

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think crypto is more about gambling than being the same as owning an investment property. With an IP you own a physical house or property that is tangible.you can claim all sorts of expenses off your tax bill. When you gamble in Australia on lotteries or casino, we don’t pay tax on wins and you can’t offset losses against future years. I hope they have Harvey Spectre as their lawyer. Ato would be taxing the exchanges on their profits. Why do they always have to double and triple dip. The money flowing through exchanges must be generating billions in tax at the moment.

Acceptable_Hand8622

1. Just received my cold wallet, easy to use and wallet is only used if I am moving crypto off my cold wallet. Only interested in BTC. Starting to stack every day until I’m all in and then maybe some from redraw. I wouldn’t trust this on exchange or hot wallet that can be hacked. 2. For your employment, do you pay tax? If you bought and sold an IP you would pay CGT. For BTC, you’re not paying in USA or Australia where I am until you sell. While there are ways around CGT ( comes up here regularly) why bother with the extra hassle and risk of imprisonment if you are caught. Also do you think a crypto lawyer will help you if you fight an exchange and help you to avoid tax. Long term investment, if you 10x and pay 15% CGT, you are still up 8.5x *just pay the tax IMO*. Also you have other investments, if you lose on them, they will be subtracted from your gain if in the same year or carried forward from previous years. Additionally if you think like most here, you will only be changing to fiat in small crumbs to buy that car or holiday, leave the rest in BTC to keep growing. You’re only paying CGT on the crumbs so CGT isn’t that big an issue. Definitely cold wallet and pay the cgt. HODL and never sell it all, only crumbs.

Ramast

I tried to report but I can't find the right option. There is: "Infringing on my IP rights" but seems only coinbase could do the reporting since it's not "my IP". Will post there see if they'd be interested to intervene

inShambles3749

Don't worry about this unless you run a child porn ring or launder vast amounts of money that gets international attention.... Protonmail and also their VPNs are great products they have a no log policy and IP logs will be deleted after a certain period which they have to keep to be able to keep operating in Switzerland. However while having a provider caring for privacy and utilizing PGP and general ended encryption it's not the tech what you need to worry about but yourself. You are the weakest link. PGP is sound and safe and pretty much anything that's sha256 encrypted is.

Fear_Blind83

Proton Mail, while generally prioritizing user privacy, has been known to share user IP addresses under specific circumstances, primarily due to legal compulsion from Swiss authorities. They adhere to a "no-logs" policy for user activity, but may log IP addresses for legitimate reasons like combating abuse, fraud, or when compelled by law. 

mkuraja

People that see a good meme pass it forward themselves instead of asking the OP to post it somewhere else or sometime later at the same place again for the new people. That's fine. No, this guy sees someone post their own personal thought(s) in the form of a question or statement, he sees it get a lot of clicks and views, but then he doesn't repost it lending his reach to help spread the IP's post, he copy/pastes it separately as his own words in hope for the same viral attention. That's what we all specifically see this dude do over and over.

The_Realist01

Yeah, i was also under the impression it was everyone and im glad Coinbase rejected me as a user because I attempted to sign up while vacationing in Mexico but using US ID / Passport lol. Flagged for IP address mismatch haha.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The OpenSea Digest highlights key developments in Web3 and NFTs this week. The Infinite Node Foundation acquired CryptoPunks IP from Yuga Labs to preserve and expand its cultural significance. Refik Anadol launched 'Biome Lumina,' a generative AI art collection. Pudgy Penguins introduced Pengu Clash, a web3 game on TON. Rohun Vara stepped down as DeGods CEO. Coinbase announced a $2.9B acquisition of Deribit. Steak 'n Shake will accept Bitcoin payments nationwide, and Arbitrum Gaming Ventures invested $10M in web3 gaming projects. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

DreamingTooLong

There is a service for deaf people called IP relay. Use that for calling the scammers lol

GreedVault

No strong IP, and the founders don’t really have particularly impressive backgrounds... >Viktoriya Hying is a co-founder of B3 and was previously Business Development Manager at Base. She graduated from the American University in Bulgaria in 2015. >Daryl Xu is the co-founder of B3 and founding partner of Scale8 Partners. He previously worked at Coinbase. He graduated from the University of Chicago with a degree in psychology and studied abroad at Renmin University of China. >Sean Geng is the co-founder of B3 and was previously Engineering Manager at Coinbase and CTO at Smoke Cartel. He graduated from the Savannah College of Art and Design with a degree in advertising.

GreedVault

MapleStory is on Avalanche, Pokémon is on Sui, I can't find any good IP on B3.

csoignier

How would they ID you and your precise location from an IP address?

Atyzzze

>Protocols are built in layers. HTML on top of TCP/IP for instance. HTML isn't a protocol, it's a standard. HTTP/HTTPS could be considered a protocol >This is logical and intelligent engineering. Lol, well, explain then how come we see almost no Bitcoin L2s whereas other ecosystems have dozens and dozens of L2s ?

Alfador8

Protocols are built in layers. HTML on top of TCP/IP for instance. Or Cashu built on top of Lightning built on top of Bitcoin for another.

Maje_Rincevent

Just about everything is wrong in your comment. For all its flaws, bitcoin is software, hardware, cryptography, and networking, not just the bitcoin protocol. The Internet is not a protocol, it's a network. HTTP or IP are the protocols the Internet is built upon, along with many many other acronyms ending in 'P'. Also, a protocol is definitely a technology.

Ok_Score9113

It doesn’t need to used and circulated to have value but if it doesn’t become the actual money of society that would be a failure. When fiat collapses, as it has always done in history, humans go back to sound money. And Bitcoin is the only sound money that can support modern society. The catalyst would be a huge print that causes hyperinflation. But you need layer 2 solutions to be ready for mass adoption at that point to really have everyone using it. Right now it’s a slow and steady thing. Things take time, look at how long it took from TCP/IP being discovered until full global internet adoption. That’s where we are The main thing is layer 2 solutions for bitcoin need to be reliable, scalable, and easy to use for the masses.

SmoothGoing

Not really. They did not sell off and close up, they bought bitcoin. They still have a company and employees and office space and directors. And they are not making any money. Posted 1.2B loss last year. It's all that debt they took on and whatnot. They sell some kinda software and perhaps they have a few legit customers for that. But if they closed up those customers would buy from SAP or Salesforce or Oracle or others that would buy off their BI IP. What I'm saying they should sell everything, retire Mike, fire everyone and disband the company. They are a horrendously bad business based on those losses.

rgnet1

>Just a protocol that speaks for itself. Kind of wild when you think about it 🤣 It's not just "kind of wild." It's the reason all other cryptocurrencies are just noise and foundationally about their creators generating wealth for themselves than solving a problem. When Satoshi created bitcoin, it was the same as any other open source developer putting something into the world that they felt hadn't been solved. It's all written in the single paragraph opener of the white paper. Did he know how much wealth he stood to gain by working on it and releasing it in the wild? Sure, but anyone else in the world could have generated the same wealth at exactly the same pace as him if they bought into his vision on day 1 and ran their own node. Other cryptos are pointless variations on a protocol where only one needs to exist. Like TCP/IP, the backbone of the Internet, it's not a perfect networking protocol, but it's better to have one that's good enough than fragment one global community. The only fragmentation of the Internet has been done by authoritarian countries like N Korea, Russia and China, to maintain control. Creators who start other cryptos are sort of the same; they don't care about what's best for the crypto user or the world, only what they can control and self-serve from. Imagine if all crypto enthusiasts from the beginning had just united behind bitcoin instead of splintering into all their own clones; global adoption would be a given. Instead, we suffer 15+ years of a confused, noisy landscape that has actively discouraged its use. The uncertainty has made it easy for its natural detractors -- traditional finance and government -- to make simple arguments against it and discourage average users from trying or adopting. And despite this, the trend continues to show that everyone ends up owning bitcoin first or exclusively in the end.

shikiyan

No, I see gold as an inferior predecessor to Bitcoin. Bitcoin has all the monetary properties of gold—scarcity, durability, and decentralization—but improves on them dramatically. It's more secure, more portable, and offers true ownership. Unlike gold, Bitcoin can't be easily confiscated. It’s divisible down to sats, and anyone in the world can generate a seed phrase, making it universally accessible. Gold supply grows at about 1.5% per year, doubling roughly every 50–60 years. Bitcoin, on the other hand, has a fixed supply cap. In fact, its circulating supply goes down over time as coins are lost or forgotten—making it even harder than gold. Let’s not forget history: the U.S. once made private gold ownership illegal. Witth bitcoin, in a worst-case scenario, you can cross a border with nothing but a memorized seed phrase or have it hidden in plain sight. Gold ETFs miss the point entirely—those are paper claims, not real possession. I do have a small portion of my pension in mstr, but I barely contribute to it and can’t really access those funds anyway. The most exciting part is that Bitcoin also has the properties of an internet protocol. Like TCP/IP, it’s a base layer that anyone can build on. We will see a revolution with money as more and more people are struggling with inflation.

Keats852

They're using the data to tie the amount of BTC you have to your IP to see if it's worth it to hack you

FieserKiller

if its a IP39 mnemonic and you know which place it had recovery is easy. if its one of the 11 first words there are only \~2000 possibilities to check. if its the 12th word you can directly calculate it because the last word is only a checksum. btcrecover is a tool whcih helps a lot with recovery of forgotten words, guessing a single missing one should take seconds at max (if you know which one is missing)

DarthBen_in_Chicago

It’s like blocking IP address. If the address with the bitcoin is not known, it’ll be blacklisted.

thad88

I got a call from an unrecognised landline and a very professional posh british man introduced himself as Coinbase support and that an IP address in UAE was attempting to login to my account. It was very convincing. He asked me to login to my Coinbase app and tell him my portfolio value to verify my identity. I told him three fiddy and he hung up on me

PlasticEyebrow

Miners do the mining, they compete for the block reward and their combined hashing power give the network security. Nodes do the validation of transactions and blocks. Full nodes are also storing the entire block chain (meaning entire transaction history). Both are important. If you wanted to defend the 21 million cap, then running a node gives you a the power on your node to reject a possible future change to the 21 million cap. The main reason to run a node would be to connect your wallet to your node so that when it gathers the info of your wallet on your own node. If you were to do this on a random public node, this node can log your IP address, and the fact that you are regularly checking certain wallet addresses.

PlasticEyebrow

I run my own node with my wallet connected to my node. This will give you privacy once you send from your wallet to somewhere. But when you send from an exchange to your wallet, the exchange will have your info (wallet address, IP address, your personal details). Also when you consolidate, all the transactions are linked together, also removing privacy. I am not too bothered about all of this, but if this really is a major concern to you, then yes maybe go ETF.

Fun-Sundae4060

Slavehack, a web-based hacking game where you can hack other people’s virtual computers if you find their IP and plant viruses on them. I made every victim of my hacks into BTC mining machines lol. BTC in the game reflected real BTC values in real life and it was $170-200 at the time after a major crash. I probably have hundreds of thousands of BTC in that game now… unless my BTC wallet was hacked

alineali

Of course it helps with privacy. That's why I wrote "Of course, if you are using this node in some way this is a different story". But this has nothing to do with "voting" of any kind. Also, from pragmatic perspective, unless you are doing something more than just DCAing, probably some blockhain explorer will be enough in practice. Of course there is a bit of privacy loss, as they will know your IP, but probably it does not matter in most cases.

SmoothGoing

What are you trying to protect? Exchange already knows you. Transactions don't record IP anywhere.

PlasticEyebrow

Supposing you are running the node on the same network, did you use the internal IP address? If so do you have an active firewall on the node maybe? Are you telling it to use port 8332?

Natalwolff

Yeah, I'm not really sure what people expect. Pretty much all the benefits of crypto are things people only care about in relation to their finances. There's a lot of talk about supply chain transparency, IP ownership authentication, all sorts of authenticity use cases like that, decentralized storage, social media networks. The problem is simply that pretty much no one cares about the benefits of decentralization in those applications enough to lose out on the efficiency of centralization. It's not like blockchain is suddenly going to start materializing Lithium deposits or heavy machinery.

notdroidyoulooking4

Warning: That site seems suspicious. Possibly being used as a honeypot. Try going there with iCloud relay on and it warns that the site can’t be used without revealing your IP address when used in a private window.

Ruskig

I have zero doubts because it only needs the TCP/IP system to work. In other words, as long as the Internet exists, Bitcoin will also exist.

enqvistx

To 3: Bitcoin is a protocol. We all use SMTP/IMAP for email and TCP/IP for web even though there are better, slicker, leaner alternatives. Network effect wins.

EdwardPotatoHand

Come to my site leave me your IP and tell me how much bitcoin you have 💀

Disseminated333

I agree. just saying make sure your network and computer are secure before accessing that drive (because this info has been posted on reddit there are probably already people looking for their IP and physical address , and make sure that HD is in a safe deposit box. Dude basically announced to the entire world that he has $5M in cash sitting on his dining room table

soundssarcastic

A btc address isnt like an IP address. There's no bitcoin ISP that can "backtrace" it. If it was sent to an address on an exchange, and that exchange needs KYC, then perhaps that person could be found. Otherwise its like seperating one persons air from another

Disseminate_333

First pay geek squad or some pros to come install a firewall (or firewalla) at your home and secure your router and device. Take whatever advice is here and delete this thread and account. You have just notified international crime syndicates that there is possibly $5million or whatever sitting unsecured in your home. That isn’t paranoid. Gwt a safe deposit box in a bank. THEN make your copy, keep the original drive in the safe deposit box. When talking that much money someone hacking or tracing your IP to get your home address and breaking into your house is not off the table. Posting online like this is dangerous. - or you’re a scammer or looking for clicks.

Alfador8

Bitcoin is a protocol like TCP/IP, not a video rental company. Protocols win via network effects. Bitcoin has already won. The market has decided.

uncapchad

sounds like the IP you signed in from was in a forbidden or restricted country. As previous transactions by your family were from an IP in an acceptable region, suddenly logging in from somewhere else is going to trigger various things especially AML.

fractalfocuser

Yep I'd agree. We're in another quiet building stage for crypto. First it was the nerds, then the speculators, and now the first mover normies are coming along. They don't trust it yet (and they shouldn't, skepticism is how banks stay in business) but they're testing the waters. Another 5yrs of development will see the rest of the normies start to move onchain. Use cases need to be proven viable, long term stability needs to be earned, and regulations need to be signed in blood. It took 15 years to go from NCP to TCP/IP and another 10 years for HTML to come along. The dotcom bubble burst in 2000 and people said the internet was a fad. Now I'm writing this on a mobile device with near constant network connection more than 50 years after ARPANET came online. Revolutionary technologies take a lot of time

biba8163

In 2019, I kept warning gullibles not to fall for the tech meme. Of course people fell for token dump tech memes like ALGO, etc. Don't be like bagholding governors. You can do better. > You seem to be fixated on tech. Tech means nothing if nobody uses it and if nobody cares. NXT was the most advanced coin in 2013 and still one of the most advanced now. Created by the founder of IOTA, it had a ton going for it. People thought it was like TCP/IP or Linux of blockchains and the future: > - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake pioneered by IOTA founder > - 1.5 minutes block times > - Java > - DEX > - Messaging > - Assets in the blockchain > - Programmable APIs > But what happened? LTC is #4 and doing great and NXT is pretty much dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/

ShivaDestroyerofLies

Not at all. The more I am around crypto the stronger my belief in common-sense regulations. We should be careful to recognize that you can’t just copy/paste old regulations onto a new asset class but there is absolutely a need for reasonable regulation. Who gets hurt by KYC laws? Scammers, money launders, the black market, people avoiding paying taxes…. But for law-abiding users this is just an annoying step in initial setup & maybe a periodical proof of identity when onboarding more assets. Securities & commodities laws should absolutely fall under their appropriate existing guidelines. Crypto can blend and blur existing definitions but we should endeavor to classify and treat things accordingly. Within the US framework the Howey test is a pretty simple way to sort things and it’s simple enough to say “if it meets the Howey Test” criteria it is a security. Or in other words, if your money is pooled in a common venture where you expect returns through the work of others (a big chunk of DeFi) then it is a security and people should be expected to follow all guidelines designed to protect investors in securities. Does this mean that it’s harder for a 17 year old in Bulgaria to start a fictional hedgefund with plagiarized IP and AI generated team? Yes. Is that bad? No. Likewise mixers serve no legitimate purpose. If you need to hide a financial paper trail then you are doing something that you shouldn’t be doing. I am a big believer in privacy but realistically there is no good reason. That you should be hiding your transactions and the flow of your money so that investors, law enforcement, and tax regulators cannot verify your reported transactions. Yes, in the rare instance of authoritarian regimes there is an argument against regulatory action but 1) exceptions should not define the rule & 2) truly authoritarian regimes will pass laws and crackdown on users regardless of what the civilized world does. The people who are most vocal about preventing regulation are the people who benefit the most from exploiting vulnerable or uneducated investors. And those people deserve far worse than having their opinions ignored.

Astropin

I'm saying if you understand dominant protocols then you understand why Bitcoin can't be replaced. If you think it can then you don't understand how dominant protocols work. TCP/IP is the dominant protocol of the Internet. It has been around since the 70's. It doesn't get replaced...it gets built on top of. Bitcoin will get built on top of ...not replaced. Volatile? Yes... risky? No. There is a difference.

GkyIuR

C'mon really? I meant major intelligence units . Money can find you everything, pay the people who managed the forums/socials where he posted, pay the people managing eventual proxy servers he used, get his IP, pay the people working at his ISP to find out which user had that IP in a certain time frame etc. It's not really that hard if you have funds to burn.

KPS-UK77

It's not really comparable, TCP/IP is literally a protocol, it was serving a purpose globally. Currently BTC is not integrated into any system. Really there's nothing stopping the whales suddenly crashing in, selling up everything and switching another altcoin, which would I turn cause that coin price to rocket. Until BTC is integrated into our banking/financial world it's still a speculative.

oespanyol

Best analogy is the TCP/IP protocol for the internet. Not the best, but one of the first ones that quickly became the dominant. Very difficult to replace now unless there is a new paradigm.

MT-Capital

What do you mean hiding a second wallet? How are they going to track your IP if there's no power and the grid is down.

Invest_Expert

Oh right, because hiding a second wallet is super practical during a collapse, but hiding gold is totally impossible. Makes perfect sense. You also forget that they can track your IP the moment you touch that wallet. Digital doesn’t mean invisible.

JanPB

It's just like in the early 1990s when people thought (including Warren Buffett) that digital commerce wasn't real. I remember snickering around that time: "Microsoft? And what do they produce? Just software? How is that sustainable?" What the TCP/IP does to information, Bitcoin does to the money. Also keep in mind that nothing has intrinsic value except water and food. Everything else (gold included) relies on a mere social convention or agreement for it to function as a carrier of value.

Hour-Oil-1666

The best would be to open source the project - the thing is that BTC is built around privacy - for people it's hard to trust 3rd party to put their private info in, specially if it can corelate with IP/email/whatever when stored.

riscten

**Good** You actually have a privacy policy. **Bad** The terms are awful. "Information We Collect \[...\] \- Transaction information: details of your Bitcoin purchases that you manually enter, including date, amount, and price. \- Technical data: IP address, browser type, operating system, and other technical data related to your access to the site." "We do not share your personal information with third parties, except in the following circumstances: Service providers: we may share information with third parties that help us operate and improve our site, always under confidentiality agreements." **NO THANK YOU** With Bitcoin you need more than to just store people's investment information on a database and call it a day. At the very least the data should be encrypted on your end and users should control the decryption key. The key should never leave the user's device. You should be completely unaware of the transactions your users log.

KingofTheTorrentine

There was a lot of deceptive marketing like the belief that you were buying some sort of IP or contract.

CMDR_BitMedler

I mean, to be fair, this project was different in that you actually got something - the clones came with a full 3D mesh rigged and you owned the IP. I know a bunch of artists that were able to use that to jump start a healthy career of making cool shit both by having a trendy eye catcher character and the network of people they caught up in it because Nike.

sun_cardinal

Elaborate, because to me it seems like the server or instance hosting the original NFT image was taken down for violating cloudflare's policies. How does that tie into networking? I am also assuming you mean networking in the TCP/IP sense.