OPEN

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

You're exactly right. Technically speaking, they built a backdoor and they lied about it. Ledger even lies on their packaging. > ["WE ARE OPEN SOURCE"](https://i.redd.it/dysdk6j9516b1.jpg) The box for hardware with closed-source firmware says they're open source. That's intentionally misleading if not outright fraud. The more you learn, the more you'll see that Ledger is dirty.

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

Have you seen this? > ["WE ARE OPEN SOURCE"](https://i.redd.it/dysdk6j9516b1.jpg) The box for Ledger hardware that uses closed-source firmware says open source. That's intentionally misleading if not outright fraud.

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

No, Ledger isn't fine if you care about your security. Ledger can't be trusted. Here's a summary, with links. 1: Ledger's word can't be trusted. The following was a lie: > Your keys are always stored on your device and never leave it > SOURCE: [btchip, Ledger Co-Founder, on May 14th, 2023](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13gs0xn/using_ledger_with_3rd_party_wallets/jk34kcn/) ...that's a lie because they added key extraction firmware to users devices. 2: Ledger's code can't be trusted. It can't be verified: > There's no backdoor and I obviously can't prove it > SOURCE: [btchip, Ledger owner & co-founder](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13itm7u/is_there_a_backdoor_yes_or_no/jkbvys7/) ...they can't prove it because their code is closed source. 3: Ledger can't be trusted with your privacy. Their CEO said so: > "If, for you, your privacy is of the utmost importance, please do not use that product, for sure." > SOURCE: [Ledger CEO Pascal Gauthier, on video](https://youtu.be/M3VjQUcyZSY?t=2342) ...he said that about one of his own products. For sure. 4: Ledger's security can't be trusted. They've been hacked: > Ledger wallet users face mounting home invasion and other scareware threats as hacker dumps private customer information online. > SOURCE: [Cointelegraph, December 24th, 2020](https://cointelegraph.com/news/ledger-data-leak-a-simple-mistake-exposed-270k-crypto-wallet-buyers) ...they can't even keep *their* data secure. Don't trust them with your coins. 5: Ledger's security has been hacked, and yet... > "The bombshell here is the explicit confirmation that Ledger themselves hold the master decryption key for all Ledger Recover users." > SOURCE: [@sethforprivacy](https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1671532787294191618) ...what could possibly go wrong, eh? 6: Ledger lies on their packaging. > ["WE ARE OPEN SOURCE"](https://i.redd.it/dysdk6j9516b1.jpg) The box for hardware with closed-source firmware says open source? That's intentionally misleading if not outright fraud. 7: Ledger refuses to answer questions. They're [deleting questions](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13itm7u/is_there_a_backdoor_yes_or_no/jkbvys7/) in comments on their sub. They're [shadowbanning](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/144439c/ledger_please_answer_this_question/) the users who ask them. They're [scrubbing their website](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13z1yew/ledger_updates_academy_articles/) to remove claims they've been making for years. They're dirty. Ledger Can't Be Trusted.

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

Ledger lied about what is in their closed source code. That's the point I'm making. > Your keys are always stored on your device and never leave it > SOURCE: [btchip, Ledger Co-Founder, on May 14th, 2023](https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13gs0xn/using_ledger_with_3rd_party_wallets/jk34kcn/) Think about the date of that quote. No, really, think about that date: **May 14th, 2023** Now, think about how long it took to create Recover. Ledger had to find other companies to partner up with, and lawyers from three different companies had to agree on terms and contracts. Any guesses on how long that took? Ledger had to write the code and test with all three companies. That's quite an undertaking. Think about how many months Ledger was falsely selling hardware while telling customers things like this: > "Hi - your private keys **never** leave the Secure Element chip, which has never been hacked. The Secure Element is 3rd party certified, and is the same technology as used in passports and credit cards. A firmware update cannot extract the private keys from the Secure Element." > [SOURCE](https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1592551225970548736): @Ledger And this, all of which has recently [been scrubbed from their website]( https://np.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/13z1yew/ledger_updates_academy_articles/) > "Private data, such as your private keys will be protected and never leave the device due to the combination of BOLOS and the Secure Element." > [SOURCE](https://www.ledger.com/academy/security/our-custom-operating-system-bolos/): Ledger.com > "The secret keys or seed are never exposed to the BLE stack and never, ever leave the Secure Element." > [SOURCE](https://www.ledger.com/ledger-nano-x-bluetooth-security-model-of-a-wireless-hardware-wallet/): Ledger.com > "While Ledger is using a dual chip system with an MCU as well, the important part is that your private keys remain inside the Secure Element." > [SOURCE](https://www.ledger.com/academy/security/not-all-chips-are-born-equal): Ledger.com > "This means that, beyond keeping your private key offline and away from hackers, the Ledger device itself is also completely impenetrable from external threats" > [SOURCE](https://www.ledger.com/academy/basic-basics/2-how-to-own-crypto/what-is-a-crypto-wallet): Ledger.com Even their packaging lies: > "WE ARE OPEN SOURCE..." > https://i.redd.it/dysdk6j9516b1.jpg The issue isn't that Ledger's firmware is closed source. The issue is that they lie about it, and they lie about what's in it.

DeviljhoFood

>The (Secret Window) is \[OPEN\] Tuesdays • Thursdays • Sundays • **6pm** to **12am** est Also, [the one I see](https://i.ibb.co/tDM0S2V/20231109193632.jpg) is different from yours.

jwz9904

banging on the doors of 31k! OPEN UP!

lxdr

>they publicly admitted that they could download firmware to extract seeds This goes the same for Trezor. The average person doesn't compartmentalize when it comes to dealing with this stuff. The risk of having an infected host computer with compromised firmware is just as high. Trezors didn't even have a secure element until their new model, which makes it a dilemma from those shouting from the "MUH OPEN SOURCE" crowd. There has to be *some* element of trust. Of course if you're truly concerned about proper cold storage you should be looking at fully open sourced airgapped solutions anyway.

AmbitiousPhilosopher

First, don't panic or rush. Second, learn about which wallets can be trusted, OPEN SOURCE community supported wallets are the safest. If it's a lot of money, investigate offline signing, but if it isn't, you can do it online with a good amount of safety.

Guilty-bnb

TAKE a good LOOK at this guy , He is already living overtime he is old school and the unused Innovation part of his brain has collected to many spiderwebs it would be impossible for him to understand or even try to visualize BTC’s potential so is much easier to blame the stupidity on BitCoin let’s give him a break and try to understand his perspective , now back to reality imo the next 4 months starting now are extremely crucial for not only BTC but all top alt coins as well we are about to finally see the GATE OPEN UP and this time with the participation of smart money keep you eyes open

Caponcapoffstillon

I literally just talked about the supposed “attack vector” on the device itself that you just mentioned. It’s not possible, view the architecture of the device. You can’t just upload malicious updates Willy Nilly, the ledger device goes through a lot of anti tampering and device attestation before the OPEN SOURCE app even releases it. If you honestly think the firmware update is getting through the whole company without company going rogue itself you’re just mistaken and you should prob read how the device itself works. I did, so I’m telling you how it works, if not I can just link it to you and you read through it yourself if you want. The only attack vector introduced is the companies you export your seed phrase to.

Complex_Flower3418

Fidelity doesn’t low u to withdraw bitcoin from them. Yes buy BTC and put onto an OPEN SOURCE hard wallet/cold storage. Forget about it for ten years

Mark_Logan

If that is an actual Casascius coin, view the amount under the hologram, BUT *DO NOT OPEN IT*. If you are going to sell it, sell it unopened. This is like a fine wine, if you open it, it loses its collector value. Yes, yes whatever, it’s worth one Bitcoin. I know the arguments. It’s always going to be worth at a MINIMUM 1 BTC (if that’s what is loaded on it) but these things are so stinking rare (unopened) you can probably get even more for it. If you’re going to auction it off, please post in /r/Bitcoin I’d love to follow that.

Crypto-4-Freedom

The only advice i would give is that you make sure you buy an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT from CHINA.

savinelli_smoker

The site looks legit. It should point you to the right telegram group. Which is just a normal telegram chat. No ticket number no help desk. You just post your question OUT IN THE OPEN and talk. There are many scammers on that channel waiting and would DM you pretend to be “help desk” though. Ignore every DM. Always talk in the main chat out in the open.

MoneroArbo

There's so many layers of stupid. Why would you exceed have that on the same machine you stream from, much less unencrypted, much less in an OPEN document. Just wow. I usually feel bad for people but I honestly just laughed at this.

viertwintig

Why trust a company when the open source variant is just better????? Keepass, anyone?????? Why do ya'll keep trusting companies when there is a FREE OPEN SOURCE alternative.

Novarttis

That because Bitcoin has a CVE list it's a bad (OPEN SOURCE) project.

MaxwllRedrum

Just don't jump in any trade blindly. Identify levels of support (a bottom with a following uptrend) and resistance (the top with following sell-off) on a high time frame like 1D or 4hrs. (Go back months) Look for strong structures in between and that will most likely be your mid-range. Now you have a basic setup. Don't go long at resistances, don't short the support. Wait for a clean break or confirmation of either. Set a stop loss when opening the position. That will be the money you are willing to lose! Once in profit lower that stop loss to the amount you wanna have as profit even if price counters the position. Indicators on Trading View (set them as favorite don't use all at once): RSI EMA 200 SMA & EMA crossing (50 & 200) MACD AGGREGATED OPEN INTEREST NET SHORT AND LONG POSITION SMART MONEY CONCEPTS You have to read up on how to interpret these indicators and how to configure them yourself to really understand it. Leveraged trading is possible, play it safe! Look at your margin levels and calculate the possible win/loss, stop losses before opening a position. At best you never really lose money because of the stop losses. Don't trade US-CPI dates or big events. Price is likely to move up and down so quick .... I'm doing it for 2 years. I'm not rich, I'm a noob! I lost a lot of trades but could even them out and you will get to a point where you will make money and don't lose trades. Even if it's just a small amount!

pizzapicnic

A trick that helps me is to keep your eyes OPEN (but actively try to sleep, i.e. no phone) it helps tire the eyes. Also, not a bad time to meditate a bit. I hope you get some good rest 💕

genjitenji

OPEN UP!

teh_d3ac0n

\-Open your eyes \_ \*opens eyelids more \-OPEN your eyes \-\*proceeds to stretch eyelids with fingers \-\*ahhhh fuk it with those braindead apes

JuggaliciousMemes

for real tho, i don’t get why them peoples don’t like Bricks, how could anyone NOT want to be paid for being active in something they enjoy? a day or two ago I seen someone in FortniteBR make a post talking about getting rid of bricks BECAUSE OF the kraken listing AND THEY HAD AN OPEN VAULT TOO like…..why?

wylie2020

OPEN a BTC ROTH IRA play it safe

Suspended_9996

2012 td bank + td canada trust "DRILLED OPEN and EMPTIED" 16,000 safety deposit boxes

Pristine_Spinach8718

*’Missis…’* … POLICE OPEN UP!

joannew99

**Wanted to leave my personal opinions out of OP so I'll post them here; An alternate way to look at this:** 1. Coldcard put profits ahead of consumers. Many consumers bought Coldcard because they were open-source; and now they are no longer open-source. If they will switch on such a core tenet, what else will they switch for profits? 2. Coldcard complaining because someone duplicated their FOSS code in a new product is dumb. ITS OPEN SOURCE, isnt that kinda the point. Your code is duplicatable and and is used by others which helps building and vetting upon the code. They didn't forsee this happening? 3. If Coldcard had a meaningful and active bug bounty program, I'd be a lot more comfortable with this. But they don't. Again just my personal opinion... with all the existing wallet options who are actually open-source, this is enough for me to eliminate Coldcard as a hardware wallet option. I understand wanting to remain brand-loyal though, but brand loyalty is not something I consider when it comes to security. Their products do admittedly look really cool though but I no longer consider using wallets that aren't open-source.

7FigureMarketer

>I like to think the scammer was busy targeting other addresses, and by the time they saw the $20 million arrive it was just too late 😂 ...or they were running a script while they were sleeping. Either way, it's pretty hilarious to think you had a $20m payday being a complete dipshit and missed you WIDE OPEN 1 hour window. LOL.

kirtash93

I was once a SAFEMOON laser eyes guy. I feel bad for the ones still trapped in r/SafeMoon... OPEN YOUR EYES and switch to Moons, a real legit project.

bookworm010101

5x-10x meaning 500% -1000 ALL up over 500% low to peak and over 250% YTD CVNA up almost 2000% low to high this year MLTX MARA IONQ INGN OPRA SYM RIOT OPEN OSCR

igotdeletedonce

True but up to this point he’s AI’s “golden boy” with a squeaky clean image meeting with senators and congressman. Doubtful he would mess that up and invite tons of scrutiny towards OPEN Ai.

Hatrick-Swayze

Everyone has the daydream of having their own money printer. The mechanism through which you acquire this frictionless money varies from person to person but the core idea is the same. Someone created a protocol which basically created value. AND ITS OPEN FUCKING SOURCE. Of course everyone was going to copy/paste it.

Playful-Iron6855

ShitCoin tokenomics that's for sure. This is from the same guy who started "OpenAi" with the intention of building OPEN AI but sold it to Microsoft. I personally wouldn't trust him with my data. I'll invest a little for the hype and short on the fall but that's it.

FattestLion

When you suspect it's the market short term top and the correction begins you post on your social media: "Ah shit here we go again" 5 minutes later: "FCA OPEN UP!!!!"

joannew99

Being open source helps others improve existing code + identify potential bugs, bc others are actively using + building on the code. Coldcard no longer benefits from this An alternate way to look at this is: Coldcard put profits ahead of consumers. Many consumers bought Coldcard because they were open-source; they are no longer open-source. If they will switch on such a core tenet, what else will they switch for profits? Crying because someone duplicated your FOSS code in a new product is dumb. ITS OPEN SOURCE With all the existing wallet options who are open-source, this is enough for me to eliminate Coldcard as an option. I understand wanting to remain brand-loyal though, but brand loyalty is not something I consider when it comes to security

Crypto-4-Freedom

Get an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT from CHINA. Keystone and jade are from china. And coldcard is not open source.

Hatrick-Swayze

Lots of people did actually know. It's crazy to me how many people can't see the forest for the greed.... I mean trees. Bitcoins invention allowed digital scarcity to exist. It allowed value to be created and it was OPEN SOURCE. Everyone has the money printer fantasy. Regardless of what mechanism it takes place in, be it winning competitions without friction or finding a huge sack of money we all have that day dream of getting value for little to no effort. Well guess what... all you have to do is pick a cute little icon, say some buzzwords, make a bullshit roadmap, lie to people and then copy and paste some code to accomplish this. That's all these tokens are and it's insane people don't see it.

Crypto-4-Freedom

I got a trezor model t. I think its great. But it doesnt matter to much which hardware wallet you get as long you get an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT from CHINA.

crua9

I'm not saying you wrong, but.... ​ >should learn from the recent Ledger debacle This was caused by Ledger flat out lying and abusing their trust. Like they flat out made a service that went against what they said and still are pushing it. In fact, they are forcing it on current users since the update which allows it is being forced if you want to do anything with your device. Like some say you have to sign. BUT WITHOUT IT BEING OPEN SOURCE. HOW DO YOU KNOW? We have no idea of the pit falls around this. But again, they flat out lied, then blame the user base saying we don't know how a hardware wallet works. They literally said it a number of times.

MinimumComment7553

Their system is falling apart. By the way, It's called OPEN-SOURCE

Crypto-4-Freedom

I would say move it to a wallet when its around 0.04/0.05 btc is. NEVER but really NEVER put it in an atomic wallet. Atomic fuckd up big time and around $100.000.000 worth of crypto was stolen from users not that long ago. Atomic wallet is a closed source wallet. They put a update out and made the wallet vulnerable for a hack and everyone who updated lost their private keys. I got a trezor model t and i really like it. It doesnt matter to much what wallet you do as long as it is an OPEN SOURCE (hardware) wallet thats not from CHINA.

Crypto-4-Freedom

I use a trezor and i really like it. But it doesnt matter to much. As long you got an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT from CHINA.

Crypto-4-Freedom

If the HW is air-gapped but comes from china it doesnt sound trust worthy to me. Make sure that you hardware wallet is OPEN SOURCE and NOT from CHINA.

Crypto-4-Freedom

I said alot of times and i will say it again : Buy an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT from CHINA.

Si1entDruid

Open eyes at 6:15 am. 6:16 am OPEN CHART

Crypto-4-Freedom

Good. Now get an OPEN SOURCE hardware wallet thats NOT FROM CHINA.

Effective_Young3069

You didn't say anything lol. Are there ponzi schemes? Yes... Are there scams? Yes... Is this a game changing innovation? Yes! To address the basics: Blockchain is OPEN SOURCE. Do you think open source code is bad or good? Blockchain is AUDITABLE IN REAL TIME. Is the ability to audit good or bad? The token means that FOUNDERS, WORKERS, USERS, AND INVESTORS ALL PROFIT from increased adoption. When Google increases the number of ads on YouTube, this benefits the shareholders but not the users. When Google fires 10% of their workforce, this benefits shareholders and not workers. When a Blockchain gets 10 million new users, this benefits everyone. Incentives are aligned. Blockchain is DIGITAL. This means AI and robots can interact without needing to deal with lawyers or middlemen. If you are investing in a project that doesn't do these things then it might not be on the Blockchain. If you're gambling on something just for hype you are probably just gambling. If the project has a use case that can bring users naturally then it's probably a real project and can be a long term investment.

thezenofpython

Oh please he isn't doing this because he's pro self custody. OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE

Amber_Sam

You read wrong. Keep listening shitcoin scammers, scared of LN. I open a LN channel, using a single on-chain transaction. Now I'm capable to do a million transactions with the rest of the network, without touching the first layer. LN is "about the scalability". OPEN YOU EYES!

null_npc

He doesn't have an answer and just realized he's not as clever as he thinks even though he said "OPEN YOUR EYES".

1Tim1_15

What's a good multi-coin wallet that is 100% OPEN SOURCE? That's the only way I'd trust it. Are any of them 100% open source?

DankShibe

Yeah, in terms of tech, some Chinese wallets defeat Ledger. Ngrave Zero is pretty much the most advanced wallet, and it is not Chinese (alongside the Coldcard Q1), but Ngrave is closed source and uses a different standard than BIP44 + they aren't long time in the game. Also, it is expensive AF. The upcoming Tropic Square Trezor (probs end of 2023 or early-mid 2024) will slap any wallet in the market. It will have an OPEN SOURCE secure element (Tropic Square chip), something that no other hardware wallet or smartphone with secure element have.

bzImage

Mainly because of this: [https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware](https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware) You can view and verify the firmware source code.. And you will say "hey im no programmer or i don't have the time or i don't want to do it" or whatever.. but.. there are thousands of nerds/geeks that do look at the code. I trust that thousands of nerds more than trezor/ledger. OPEN SOURCE FIRMWARE, NOW YOU KNOW WHY.

mnkbstard

the fuck? it's impossible to have a discussion with you. i'm here advising for a EASY, TRUSTLESS and OPEN SOURCE solution which is achievable by using completely disconnected devices to generate seeds or sign Bitcoin transactions. no need to trust hardware providers, and no need to review thousands of lines of code. you only need to trust bitcoin protocol and check what you are signing.

Mr_Bob_Ferguson

>FBI OPEN UP!!!!!! No, children, I didn't mean you.

rootpl

>Would be really cool if I could add $500M to my bank account from nothing. \*knock knock\* FBI OPEN UP!

EasyMacN34

Do not open. **DO NOT OPEN**

Every_Hunt_160

*Redditor actually tries this protip* *The very next day* ‘*WojakPepe69, FBI OPEN UP! You’re under arrest motherfucker!!*’

Knotley-Hunt-Brick

Any chance they are getting to OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPERS? If not , I see a huge rise in Raspberry Pi wallets.

middlemangv

[FBI, OPEN UP!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c46_iL2QqOE)

AlligatorDerby

He was seemingly Pro-crypto until 2021. We went from excited : having an MIT blockchain and money fall 2018 OPEN COURSEWARE Lecturer as an SEC chairmen. To pulling the Knife out of our back.

PeterStepsRabbit

- "FBI OPEN U...okay, that was easy." - "Basement."

ChaoticNeutralNephew

I read a book about a guy in a French penal volony in the 30's. Everybody had a tube in their rectum with their stash in it. Dudes would CUT PEOPLE OPEN to steal the stash.

na3than

That's why you should only accept OPEN SOURCE firmware where you can independently verify the build. Like [Coldcard](https://github.com/Coldcard/firmware)

ZyriaNova

Came for the post, stayed for the pun. My advice: DON'T DEAD OPEN INSIDE

outofobscure

\*sees rocket emojis\* SEC, OPEN UP!

tallreagan

Okay 'redditor for a day'. We know that Bitcoin is decentralized, not controlled by a 'key entity' and that mining is de decentralized because it is an OPEN SOURCE protocol and network. We know these things because we can literally see who committed code, where miners are located (approx), see all transactions and fees and thereby calculate and deduce the state of Bitcoin.

Denaneha

I know there are a LOT of lurkers here that never even opened their vaults . IF YOU READING THIS PLEASE OPEN YOUR VAULTS YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR MISSING !!! I’m sure you gonna love moons

Ryuzaki_63

***"TV License inspector OPEN UP!"***

Rastifar

Dude, there is 0% chance of solid financial advise in this comment thread. DON'T OPEN ANY LINKS SENT TO YOU, for starters. For some people 30k is settlement for life.

MystikSnek

That's definitely an approach too. OPEN YOUR VAULT

ra246

1 in 20 of us don't have a vault. I mean first off, that's a pretty great statistic. That's a lot of people who've taken the time to open a vault, but we don't want to leave those in that 5% behind. So, ​ **OPEN YOUR DAMN VAULT! AND WRITE DOWN YOUR RECOVERY PHRASE!**

maynardstaint

LMAO!!! Did you even read your own article? Paragraph 2 begins; XRP operates on its own DECENTRALIZED, OPEN SOURCE block chain. If you mean the fact that ripple has their tokens locked into a an algorithmic escrow that releases 1 billion monthly; I would remind you that more than 50% of total supply is in circulation. The balance of the coins in escrow is not carried on ripples balance sheet. They are held by third party custody. And when the escrow is released to them, they sell what they need, and lock the rest back into that escrow. Every single person can track that release and lock up. I believe every protocol should be this transparent about supply. What percentage of total eth supply does the EEA own? They won’t tell you. So there is no way to compare who owns what. Algorand almost tripled supply last year. Hbar doubled. A programmed, timed, publicly transparent release is the most fair thing to token holders.

Badaluka

FBI OPEN UP! You're under arrest for using the MOST DANGEROUS EMOJI for our nation!

Ryuzaki_63

jpg of "FBI OPEN UP" or Just Liam Neeson "I will find you"

EasyMacN34

Vault police! 🚨 *OPEN UP*

I_was_bone_to_dance

This morning we are waking up to the USDC news. By the way Icy, OPEN YOUR VAULT BRO

timbulance

When 5 happens we have 12 million users real quick. HELP HOW DO I OPEN MY VAULT !!

grndslm

Is metamask open-source? Or Trust wallet? The name of the game is Trust *Minimization*, which means that the code you're running should be OPEN, verifiable, etc. I only use Electrum with a ColdCard in order to MAXIMIZE Trust Minimization. ;-)

Odysseus_Lannister

*knock knock* **SEC OPEN UP**

PaulD244

It’s funny to see how traditional banks just throw random shit at the wall to see what sticks. Next year they’ll be doing promotions like: OPEN A BTC CRYPTO CREDIT CARD AND GET 1% BTC BACK ON ALL PURCHASES

Eights1776

OPEN Sesame!

bigherb33

OPEN YOUR VAULT? “Hedge-funds hate this secret trick!” Power to the retail party - I’m a member.

UptheIrons2023

*knock konck* “IRS OPEN UP!”

whitdemon

"x doesnt want you to know" its a OPEN LEDGER TECHNOLOGY (opinion discarded)

CipherScarlatti

Reading stuff like this reminds me of Eurotrip. "AH! A NICKEL! YOU SEE THIS? I QUIT. I OPEN MY OWN HOTEL."

TheGreatCryptopo

Two mistakes I see with your post. There is no DCA out and you do not have a Moons vault open. DCA IN and OPEN your Moons vault. Have a good day.