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jawni

*let's see what fun and exciting stuff is happening in the world of cryptocurrency!* Elon Musk’s X removes crypto emojis, leaving community puzzled (cointelegraph.com) - **WHO CARES** Japanese Financial Giant Preparing for Approval of Bitcoin ETFs (headtopics.com) - **WHO CARES** Massive Sleeping Bitcoin Wallet From 2013 Moves 750 BTC After 11 Years, Valued at $48M (news.bitcoin.com) - **WHO CARES** / **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blasts inflation as 'government theft' (finbold.com) - **WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CRYPTO?** US senator withdraws support for Elizabeth Warren’s anti-crypto bill (cointelegraph.com) - **WHO CARES** Grayscale Ethereum ETF bleeds Thursday, outflows exceed $1 billion since debut (cryptobriefing.com) - **WHO CARES** Cryptominer with palm-sized $179 ASIC hits the jackpot with $206,000 in Bitcoin (tomshardware.com) - **WHO CARES** / **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** Blackrock foresees “very little interest” in crypto ETFs beyond Bitcoin, Ethereum (cointelegraph.com) - **WHO CARES** CZ is NOT getting released from U.S. prison next month (cryptopolitan.com) - **WHO CARES** New Jersey wants to invest city pension fund in crypto ETFs (cryptopolitan.com) - **WHO CARES** Cash, not crypto, still top funding choice for terrorists, Singapore reports (cointelegraph.com) - **WHO CARES** / **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** Russian ransomware generates over $500m in crypto proceeds, TRM Labs says (crypto.news) - **WHO CARES** / **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** Argentina wants to tame crypto market due to money-laundering concerns | Cyprus Mail (cyprus-mail.com) - **WHO CARES** / **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** At this rate, Grayscale's ETHE could run out of ether within weeks (theblock.co) - **STILL DON'T CARE** MARA purchases $100 million worth of bitcoin, holdings surpass 20,000 BTC (theblock.co) - **WHO CARES** Russia mulls launching tokens backed by cenbank-owned gold: report (crypto.news) - **ONLY HEARD THIS ABOUT A MILLION TIMES** USDT/USDC spending without EUR conversion (self.CryptoCurrency) - **Niche problem, irrelevant to most** VanEck Predicts Bitcoin to Skyrocket to $52.38 Million by 2050 in Bull Scenario (beincrypto.com) - **WHO CARES (HOPIUM EDITION)** Crypto miner Marathon Digital adds $100m in Bitcoin to reserves (crypto.news) - **STILL DON'T CARE** In harsh year for NFTs one group of ‘Made Mutants’ still believe in Yuga Labs’ future (dlnews.com) - **WHO CARES** Help with BEP2 changing your bep20 (self.CryptoCurrency) - **Niche problem, irrelevant to most** Alchemy Pay’s Advanced Banking Solution Enables Web3 Enterprises to Open Multi-fiat Accounts with… (alchemypay.medium.com) - **THINLY VEILED AD** Arbitrum Foundation’s proposal to deploy Orbit chains beyond Ethereum opens for initial vote. (theblock.co) - marginally interesting but largely irrelevant. Broad Lister Cryptoexchange Gate.io, Gives Up On Compliance Heavy Japan (observers.com) - **WHO CARES** Grayscale Ethereum Trust Sheds $327 Million in a Day as ETFs See Mixed Flows (decrypt.co) - **STILL DON'T CARE AGAIN**

TheRealGaycob

you buy off the exchange and send to the wallet when the stack is big enough. DON"T send over small amounts to your wallet.

crimeo

> consent is needed for a trade not to be considered theft I disagree, says who? Theft is colloquially one sided, not a trade. We have arrived at more root answer to the original question. "Why can nobody explain to me...?" because they're using the word as what it actually means, and you made up a personal definition. So of course it confuses everyone. > The mafia The reason people consider it theft from the mafia is they DON'T offer you anything in return. it's not a trade. They "protect" you from themselves, it's not literal, it's just a dumb euphemism. If there was actually some legitimate threat that they were actually protecting you from, and nobody else was (government has abandoned this neighborhood and never sends cops there, for example), then in that case, people actually LIKE the mafia historically. Or at least that aspect of them. Because it was an actually needed service, same as from government police/military if they show up.

fverdeja

# DON'T READ THE BITCOIN STANDARD. I'm not joking, the book doesn't understand Bitcoin and it's 90 % opinion, stop recommending that piece of sh\*t to people who want to understand why Bitcoin is important, all the book does is spew a bunch of conspiracies, wrong historical references, and misunderstandings of the technology as facts.

uhhh-000

Yeah... DON'T do this 🤣 Thanks, Ganesh.. give Shiva my regards

Katatad

Definitely OP DON'T follow this way

Jaynafay

think about that you are trying to tell me that at 50 yrs old and having lived at the ocean my whole life, i live by a busy airport, ufos, all kinds of things going on in our ocean and sky, that I DON’T KNOW WHAT I SEE WITH MY OWN EYES? cmon. just because you cant see it and weren't there, doesn’t mean ur RIGHT, i know what a lens flare is.. if u look at my video which u won’t you can see the difference. but you know it all and i have no idea whats real and what is just floating on a lens

J_Pilla

Men lie. Women lie. NUMBERS DON'T! This is going be life changing. CAW CAW! crow with knife! Time to take flight! https://i.redd.it/bgu6t86valbd1.gif

Academic_Candy_3194

The post was meant to be funny, I trade very low leverage. Maybe 5x. With only 10% of my isolated futures balance. DONT ever ever do cross. Make sure you use isolated. I have found pretty good success trading on the one minute chart to the 15. And then analyzing the volume. Sometimes the RSI. And of course watching Big Daddy Bitcoin because if that suddenly dumps they all dump. SET VERY TIGHT STOP LOSSES, DON'T REVENGE TRADE. IF YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY STAY OFF THE F****** PLATFORM. Don't ever ever trade sideways trends, The hardest part is being patient and waiting for that perfect setup either short or long. I have lost over $4,500 making all the mistakes. I learned the hard way. - when you enter a position, put your tight stop loss in. Close the app and go do something else for a while. Don't f****** watch it. Especially on the 1 minute. You'll get scared and bail right before the miracle.

Conscious_Chance_665

Best tip I could give you is DON'T DO IT but you will do it anyway.

garbage_band

Wallets DON'T STORE CRYPTO! They store keys

Rationally-Skeptical

DON’T TELL ME NOT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I used to believe this pseudo-economic voodoo bullshit too so I enjoy talking with them.

El__Patron

No, the question is redundant and if you ask this or plan to sell, you don't understand Bitcoin. YOU NEVER SELL. It's your MONEY and you spend it when you need to, or lend against it (beware not sure which lending service wont eff you in the rug-pulling A) I mean you wouldn't ask "When will you sell your dollars? or Euros? I mean yeah - sell all and buy Bitcoin but you get my drift... At the end of the month you don\^t wonder "Hm should I sell my dollars? You spend em if necessary...If you have leftover $/€ etc. - you obviously stack sats. i.E. You also don't sell the house you live in etc. unless you need to. If you flip houses that's a different story... also if you trade Bitcoin (DON't), then you might sell and buy in at a better price... (REKT). So NO. YOU NEVER SELL. Look into "Deferred Gratification". "What is deferred gratification? Delayed gratification, or deferred gratification, is **the resistance to the temptation of an immediate pleasure in the hope of obtaining a valuable and long-lasting reward in the long-term**." Meaning, you wait to spend your money i.E. your Bitcoin ONLY when you need to... It might moon for ever... So sell it TODAY if you NEED TO as in buying a house or a car or whatever necessary expenditure you must do... and of course spend your FIAT "money" first... Gresham's Law... you spend the weaker money first and keep the harder money until it's ripped out of your dying hands.. ;) Maybe the question needs to be, keeping "Deferred Gratification" in mind, when will you buy that thing you've been fapping over forever... now? And miss out on se mad gainz? WIll you spend it at 150k? at 1.5 mil? Aight, walking back to my sticks and leaves habitat with my 10 year old jeans and sneakers with holes in em...

SpaceToadD

Don’t tease me bitcoin. DON’T.

mnkbstard

you should read something about Hierarchical Deterministic wallets and BIP standards before losing your funds or doing something useless anyway, if you want to keep using the seed you engraved, you can go 3 different ways: - add a BIP39 Passphrase to your seed if you add a salt to your seed, it will generate different addresses - derivate BIP85 seedphrases from your original seedphrase BIP85 standard will allow you to generate new seedphrases from your original one - keep using your seedphrase without passphrase and generate the following address in derivation path you can check this useful tool to understand better how it does work: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ of course, DON'T WRITE YOUR REAL SEEDPHRASE use this online tool only to learn how derivation and seed work. you could also use this tool with your real seedphrase, but i'll advice to download the .html on a offline airgapped computer you'll wipe after use.

dark_deadline

To all of you who started farming moons DON'T expect big returns anymore. The total distribution of moons would be 33,333. So if 1000 people farm they will only get 33.33 moons And that 33.33 moons would be worth around $5 at the current price.

OldAd5925

Journalists have been saying this every two years since 2009. During the bear market period. 2011: "it's the end of Bitcoin!" 2012 (say nothing) 2013 (still nothing) 2014 *goes down* (it's the end of Bitcoin!) 2015 "Bitcoin will crash to zero!" 2016 (say nothing) 2017 (trying to warn people over a "it may be a big scam!") 2018 "BITCOIN WILL GO TO ZERO!! According to """experts""" 2019 "yeah don't get too excited too fast it just goes up a bit it will crash soon" 2020 "DON'T BUY IT'S A SCAM!!" 2021 "Yeah but it's Elon Musk!! He manipulated the market!" 2022 "Elon Musk and Bitcoin are a scam!" 2023 "you should sell now!!" 2024 "be careful it's maybe a scam!!"

Sutanz

If 2-3% yearly on crypto makes you do such dumb things and your reason to pick a wallet is the "customer service" you are doing it all wrong. Connecting your wallet to any service you see advertised anywhere is calling to be scammed. It doesn't matter if the ad is shown in your wallet as an NFT, on Twitter or reddit, you JUST DON'T CONNECT YOUR WALLET TO SITES YOU DON'T KNOW OR TRUST. Even less accept unknown transactions. You've fucked up on every level and this is only the result of greediness and ignorance.

Ok_Statement1359

best investments that can do is to buy and DON'T LOOK AT IT FOR 6m.

rasman99

Amen to this bruh. Don't follow YouTubers or Twitterati who post how much they make. DON'T TRUST, VERIFY.

Lokijai

Sure I cannot help send me your address and seed phrase and we can build it together. MAKE SURE YOU DM ME THE DETAILS SO YOU DON'T GET SCAMMED!!!

Taltalonix

Honestly I don’t agree with most comments here. Don’t gamble money you don’t have, I don’t care who you are you DON’T know how markets move, no one does. Some manage to gain an edge but this only works in the long run due to the rule of large numbers. At this age either spend the money on things you need or invest it in something safe (no, crypto is not safe). If you want to trade, do it without real money or an amount you can afford to lose, risk 1% on every trade no matter what.

Fernmixer

“… and the moral of the story, DON’T BUY Bitcoin because you know it’s going to crash” 😆🫠

RafaelCS33

Memes in BRC-20, DON GO TO THE MOON, in network of king BTC 🫡

harvested

Repost for visibility: So ETFs are obviously stacking. Do you guys realise how much will come out next 13F quarterly filings? More institutions will be revealed which does 2 things: 1. Makes it okay for other institutions to follow suit (no one wants to be **first** or too early in a 'risky' or unfamiliar position) 2. Game theory begins to play out, eg, funds under perform without bitcoin. What happens if we DON'T adopt bitcoin? Do we become obsolete? Get ready lads.. Bitcoin is entering the big leagues.

harvested

So ETFs are obviously stacking. Do you guys realise how much will be revealed next 13F quarterly filings? More institutions will be revealed which does 2 things: 1. Makes it okay for other institutions to follow suit (no one wants to be **first** in a 'risky' or unfamiliar position) 2. Game theory beings to play out, eg, funds under perform without bitcoin. What happens if we DON'T adopt bitcoin? Do we become obsolete? Get ready lads.. Bitcoin is entering the big leagues.

harvested

So ETFs are obviously stacking. Do you guys realise how much will be revealed next 13F quarterly filings? More institutions will be revealed which does 2 things: 1. Makes it okay for other institutions to follow suit (no one wants to be **first** in a 'risky' move) 2. Game theory beings to play out, eg, funds under perform without bitcoin. What happens if we DON'T adopt bitcoin? Do we become obsolete? Get ready lads.. Bitcoin is entering the big leagues.

PandorasBucket

It's actually shocking how many people DON'T own bitcoin.

LimitAlternative2629

You might be better off, taking a look at bip-85: [https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/11sk6k6/help\_me\_better\_understand\_bip85/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/11sk6k6/help_me_better_understand_bip85/) First, here's what was recommended to me by an OG on multisig: [https://youtu.be/7dNGdkeQ7ew?si=EklRBAKDQfY0lLFT](https://youtu.be/7dNGdkeQ7ew?si=EklRBAKDQfY0lLFT) For usability passphrase works best on a ledger, but I moved away from that for obvious reasons, but the killer feature here is that you CAN have two pins, one for the normal seed phrase, the other unlocks the seedphrase plus passphrase: [https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4983095135261-How-to-recover-your-passphrase-accounts?support=true](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4983095135261-How-to-recover-your-passphrase-accounts?support=true) [https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-How-to-set-up-a-passphrase?docs=true](https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-How-to-set-up-a-passphrase?docs=true) You don't need five wallets. You need two if you want to multisig OR have a backup / testing if you can successfully restore your primary access to the second wallet. To answer your question, if you have 5 different wallets, if means you DON'T have the same total amount in each wallet. If that is what you want, you can't set it up this way. If your intention is to have different wallets, then, by all means use a passphrase, you can totally use the same one, although using different ones is safer. At this point though I believe what another poster said is true, you are overcomplicating things. Wether you use the same passphrase or not, if ONE gets hacked or you get blackmailed into surrendering it, it will be known that all of your other wallets (if discovered) likely ALSO have a passphrase. Here's my tip. If you want to go down the route you said. Use to (different) hardware wallets (bitbox, leder, coldcard) to construct ONE master wallet, with a minimal amount 0,01% on it, then transfer 0,1% to your setup plus passphrase, and the rest of it to a SECOND passphrase. In this way you created a first and second layer of plausible deniability. Just make sure, that the BIG funds, never hit any of the smaller wallets. One more thing. The passphrase IS stored on a ledger wallet, otherwise it would be impossible to unlock it with a second pin. However even here you have the "temporary option" which means you have to enter the potentially complex passphrase EVERY time after unlocking the device. This is the default on Bitbox. Bitbox appears to NOT store the passphrase. Unfortunately, but they promised me to fix that, once it's unlocked it ASKS for a passphrase once initiated. So you HAVE to enter it and cannot attach it to a secondary pin and it sort of defeats the purpose of plausible deniability. you want the bitbox bitcoin only version btw to reduce the attack surface.

JYoungSocial

Had anyone noticed that whenever an anti-bitcoin / fiat defender enters the conversation that they can never argue from first principles? They cannot define good money. They can never state the attributes, characteristics, and qualities of good money. They can never define the purpose of good money. They cannot state the philosophy of good money. They don't understand the purpose of good money. They criticize bitcoin as money BUT they DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD MONEY IS. Their arguments are vapid. They are the inhabitants of The Matrix defending The Matrix.

vario

> DISCLAIMER: $HEGE IS A MEMECOIN WITH NO INTRINSIC VALUE. DON’T RISK MONEY YOU ARE AFRAID OF LOSING. THE PRICE MAY GO UP OR IT MAY GO DOWN. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF THE TOKEN This is literally the footer of the website. No different. Good luck with the unregulated gambling.

lukekibs

Kids, DON’T FUCKING DO THIS. If anything please just hodl the shitcoins. Do not fuck around with leverage unless u wanna find out

mylastdream15

This is a fact. How people allow themselves to be conned repeatedly by this conman blows my mind. Dude will tell you exactly what he thinks you want to hear, then do the exact opposite. And that's been his MO his entire career. Heck. He said he was AGAINST crypto at times while he was potus and wanted to strengthen the dollar. Half the time he'll even flat out tell some of these people exactly what they DON'T want to hear, and they'll defend it. It's maddening. I've basically given up trying to figure them out. I think some people like being scammed if they feel like they are part of something along the way. (There's a reason people fall for cults.) I've basically given up trying to rationalize with them or understand. It just is mind numbing and will make you lose your mind trying to figure it out.

ScoobaMonsta

There's a number of Technical Analysis books available to read. There's no difference between crypto or stocks when learning TA. Its just crypto is way more volatile. The basics of TA doesn't charge. Read up on Candlestick's first. The candlestick body and the wicks and what it means. Then learn about different shapes of candles. Then grouping of candles. https://www.tastylive.com/news-insights/how-to-read-candlesticks-beginners-guide After that move on to patterns. Using line tools and drawing resistance and support lines to find patterns. Learn what each pattern means. Bullish or bearish patterns. https://www.fidelity.com/bin-public/060_www_fidelity_com/documents/learning-center/Idenitfying-Chart-Patterns.pdf After you learn those basics above☝️, move onto indicators. The best indicator I recommend is the Ichimoku Kumo. When you learn all aspects of this indicator you will have the ability to see a huge amount of information of what is going on in whatever time frame you are looking at. https://www.ichimoku-kinko-hyo.info/en/pages/the-ichimoku-cloud-kumo.html Ichimoku is a Japanese word. It means "one look" or another way to say it is "a glance". Kumo means "cloud" When you know how to read this and interpret all the information it's an incredibly powerful indicator! You can get a large amount of information from a short look at a chart with this indicator on any timeframe! The Fibonacci retracement tool & the trend based Fibonacci tool are also very good tools to learn as well. Combined with the ichimoku they help confirm many things. There's a lot more other indicators and tools to learn, but learn the basics I stated above first. Very important to learn the basics first! Always make a trade on the confirmation of a pattern. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/confirmationonachart.asp These things I've given you above ☝️ will take you months to fully learn and grasp the basics. At least 6 months if you practice regularly. DON'T TRADE until you are comfortable knowing these basics. Do dummy trades for practice before actually putting money down. And then when you do start trading for real, be prepared to loose money in the beginning. Think of it as your tuition fee into trading. The last bit of advice about trading that you need to know, is to get to the point where you trust the work that you did. Trust the information that you gather from your own TA. DON'T let emotions dictate your decisions on your trade or other people! Trust the information you gather. Emotions will get you REKT!

hsmst4

Ironically, it's stupid if they DON'T do that...

Acceptable_Primary56

I love reading this. After a while in Bitcoin, it makes you wonder how there’s people that DON’T have any. Bitcoin is life changing for the positive in so many ways.

EntireGap3779

I HAVE TO AGREE, DON'T USE THEM. I am preparing a list of the crap hidden fees that they are doing and it's so exasperating, that I cannot give much attention to it. I need to seek an escape to calm down. They are full of secrecies for sure. and Hiding fees. Like the one-time payment card (one-time card), they don't tell you up front that one you go thru all the trouble of adding this new card to my WalMart Online account, I am gonna have to incur a 4% hidden fee when the complet checkout with payment process is tried. so for a $46.84 Cart Total WalMart payment, with a balance of $47.21 available on the one-time card, the card is declined cuz they are pushing thru a payment of over $49.00. I got so mad when I saw it, I exited out of the popup before noting the exact amount. So they wanna give me $2 back? that should have been 92 cents. But with the $2.50 HIDDEN FEE, I end up losing $1.58 on a 46.84 purchase. a whopping 3.3%. In all honesty, i might not mind this so much if they had divulged it loud and clear before I went through the trouble. I have more gripes to post soon.

BTCMAXE

The IDEA of it is important—I love it. But I would never stake my life on the current mechanics of it. I cannot unequivocally say that these devices DON’T connect to the internet in some way just because some company says so on its slick, fancy website. I have no way of knowing that.

Awkward_Potential_

So we're better off if they debase the currency but DON'T have anything to show for it? Also, "who would believe that the new currency is backed by Bitcoin". Public blockchain. They could publish the wallet addresses.

crimeo

This distinction makes no sense. If you knew when a bull run would end, then you would sell ALL crypto, not just some. Because of this nifty notion called buy low, sell high. If you DON'T know perfectly when a bull run will end, then there would be no reason to sell anything over other things, since you wouldn't know when to sell in the first place. In neither scenario does it make sense to only sell some types and not others.

Wayne2018ZA

Your "uncle" downloaded a fake Ledger Live. And when you buy a Ledger, it specifically says "DON"T PUT YOUR SEEDPHRASE ANYWHERE ONLINE". Why is this so hard to understand? Wave your crypto goodbye - you can't reverse the blockchain.

glockinmyprius

I’m starting to think posts like these are purposely made from people that actually DON’T want a bull run

Important_Table6125

DON’T FOLLOW HIM. I used to follow him in 2021 cycle and he was consistently wrong. He and that moron PlanB who cost me quite some money. MegaWhaleCryopto/ Jason Pizziano/ Wovles of Crypto are some of the better ones.

LimitAlternative2629

if you're 3/4 or more invested keep the dry powder. There may be a mid bull run correction during the summer. Or by now, if you have enough cashflow but DON'T fomo in at 90k since this is likely a temporary top - my two satoshi

FaerieDragon9

DON’T MISS OUT. 1 out of 250 million in MC ✅

FaerieDragon9

DON’T MISS OUT. 1 out of 250 million in MC ✅

magus-21

> You should ask yourself a similar question instead: If it was anything other than crypto, would you support arbitrary rules that exist for the sole purpose of stonewalling a new industry? Except I DON'T think SAB 121 is "an arbitrary rule that exists for the sole purpose of stonewalling a new industry." I've outlined how it makes sense and what distinguishes crypto. > You have a palpable disdain for cryptocurrencies that is entirely emotional in nature and origin I have a palpable disdain for **cryptobros** like you and the guy I originally replied to. I'm actually pretty heavily invested in crypto.

gmnotyet

Yep. I am computer literate for over 30 years and am TERRIFIED of crypto. You check a box or you DON'T check a box and POOF! your wallet is drained.

Sapper_Initiative538

Thats the cool part....YOU DON"T !! (China)

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

First of all, don't listen to anyone trying to give you exact timings. Nobody knows for sure, it may or may not play out like previous cycles. I'd basically just say my main advice for someone new is DON'T throw all your money in at once. Resist FOMO. Crypto is volatile.

EmpiricalRutabaga

> Naked shorting of shares is not banned and is performed in a very simple way - You borrow existing shares from, say, a pension fund, and you sell them. All shares exist, nothing fictitious. How uninformed are you? That's not naked shorting. "You borrow existing shares" means you're NOT NAKED SHORTING. Naked shorting is when you DON'T borrow shares from anywhere, you just sell something you never borrowed or owned and rely on settlement delays and corrupt brokerages to hide the fact that you're shorting NAKED.

BarryTheBaptistAU

I. DON'T. CARE. Anyone can make up stories (your exact words)

Dynatox

The impatience in the bitcoin space and market is palpable and laughable at this point. I can't even believe people come up with this nonsense. We're not even 1 month after the halving and we usually top 18 months after the halving. I like Steve and I listen regularly, but its only to gather different opinions and see what they are all saying. I listen to the bears, the bulls, the moon boys, the schiffs, the giovannis, the PlanBs, etc etc. Why not . . . . keep your mind open to differing opinions? And when you read between the lines, every technical analyst says exactly this in every video: "OMG Look at this deadly candle, bitcoin bulls are in trouble! We could go down! Unless we go up! IF we go up the bears are in big trouble!". But to answer your question, could we not see phase 4? Its possible. Now let me ask this question. **Do you want to bet against bitcoin in 2024-2025, 3-18 months after the halving?** How positive of a trade do you think this will be? Do you want your money against bitcoin or for bitcoin with everything we know about the 4 year cycle? And Someone should Steve this question. He will say what he's been saying, which is "its much riskier to be out of bitcoin right now than it is to be in bitcoin right now". Steve (and every other TA person, just about position themselves so they can say they were right no matter what happens. Its like the palm reader that tells you 5 general things, and when one is right, they look like a genius. No one knows exactly what bitcoin is going to do. If you want an opinion from some random stranger: there is a <5% chance we DON'T see a phase 4.

TheGreatMuffin

Copying an older post of mine, some of the links might be out of date *Nobody in bitcoin is interested in securing your privacy, except you yourself. Below is an incomplete list of things that an average user can do to increase their privacy on the bitcoin network.* **DO:** - run your own full node and connect your wallet to it: this avoids leaking your transactions/your IP to third parties (f.ex your Ledger/Trezor gives your addresses to their servers every time you receive coins) - try to avoid KYC services, if possible: instead use [Bisq](https://bisq.network), [HodlHodl](https://hodlhodl.com), or other [p2p exchanges](https://github.com/cointastical/P2P-Trading-Exchanges), establish a network for in-person buying/selling, go to meetups, start earning bitcoin etc - use ~~[Wasabi](https://wasabiwallet.io)~~ to mix your coins (or coinjoin features of ~~[Samourai](https://www.samouraiwallet.com/whirlpool) for Android~~, or the [Joinmarket](https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver) project) - practice [coin control](https://medium.com/@nopara73/coin-control-is-must-learn-if-you-care-about-your-privacy-in-bitcoin-33b9a5f224a2) after, before, and even without mixing - use [Tor browser](https://www.torproject.org/download/) when dealing with bitcoin services (blockexplorers especially) - consider using the Lightning network for more privacy **DON'T:** - reuse addresses - reveal your public keys to any software (watch-only wallets, f.ex), as it’s possible to derive all possible future receiving addresses from the pubkey - look up your own bitcoin transactions on blockexplorers, or at least use the Tor browser - don’t post your receiving addresses in public unnecessarily - don’t consolidate UTXOs without need: consider the trade-off between decreasing future fees and potential decrease in privacy **Reading material:** very extensive privacy wiki (see “Methods for improving privacy” especially), by u/belcher_: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy privacy FAQ by u/6102bitcoin: http://web.archive.org/web/20201104212122/https://github.com/6102bitcoin/FAQ/blob/master/hodl-privacy.md “Beginner’s Guide to Lightning on a Raspberry Pi” (includes connecting your hardware wallet to the Raspberry node, setting up Tor etc.. feel free to skip the Lightning part and jump to bonus section if only interested in privacy), by u/stadicus: https://raspibolt.org/ very basic introduction to some of the privacy pitfalls in bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy "Bitcoin Anonymity Guide 2019: How to use BTC like a straight up G": https://www.coincache.net/2019/01/02/bitcoin-anonymity-guide-2019-how-to-use-btc-like-a-straight-up-g/

xehlers

I would joke around with the women I would date and say " I have a micro penis, I hope thats okay with you" - and some would laugh - some would say oh size doesn't matter, and then one women called me out and said "You know how I know you DON'T have a micro penis? Guys with Micro Penis's don't tell others, even jokingly that they have a Micro Penis... " So you know how I know you don't have 63 Million Bitcoins?

TheGreatMuffin

The recent events certainly suck, but the same principle apply still (older post of mine): *Nobody in bitcoin is interested in securing your privacy, except you yourself. Below is an incomplete list of things that an average user can do to increase their privacy on the bitcoin network.* **DO:** - run your own full node and connect your wallet to it: this avoids leaking your transactions/your IP to third parties (f.ex your Ledger/Trezor gives your addresses to their servers every time you receive coins) - try to avoid KYC services, if possible: instead use [Bisq](https://bisq.network), [HodlHodl](https://hodlhodl.com), or other [p2p exchanges](https://github.com/cointastical/P2P-Trading-Exchanges), establish a network for in-person buying/selling, go to meetups, start earning bitcoin etc - use ~[Wasabi](https://wasabiwallet.io)~ to mix your coins (or coinjoin features of ~@[Samourai](https://www.samouraiwallet.com/whirlpool) for Android~, or the [Joinmarket](https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver) project) - practice [coin control](https://medium.com/@nopara73/coin-control-is-must-learn-if-you-care-about-your-privacy-in-bitcoin-33b9a5f224a2) after, before, and even without mixing - use [Tor browser](https://www.torproject.org/download/) when dealing with bitcoin services (blockexplorers especially) - consider using the Lightning network for more privacy **DON'T:** - reuse addresses - reveal your public keys to any software (watch-only wallets, f.ex), as it’s possible to derive all possible future receiving addresses from the pubkey - look up your own bitcoin transactions on blockexplorers, or at least use the Tor browser - don’t post your receiving addresses in public unnecessarily - don’t consolidate UTXOs without need: consider the trade-off between decreasing future fees and potential decrease in privacy **Reading material:** very extensive privacy wiki (see “Methods for improving privacy” especially), by u/belcher_: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy privacy FAQ by u/6102bitcoin: http://web.archive.org/web/20201104212122/https://github.com/6102bitcoin/FAQ/blob/master/hodl-privacy.md “Beginner’s Guide to Lightning on a Raspberry Pi” (includes connecting your hardware wallet to the Raspberry node, setting up Tor etc.. feel free to skip the Lightning part and jump to bonus section if only interested in privacy), by u/stadicus: https://raspibolt.org/ very basic introduction to some of the privacy pitfalls in bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy "Bitcoin Anonymity Guide 2019: How to use BTC like a straight up G": https://www.coincache.net/2019/01/02/bitcoin-anonymity-guide-2019-how-to-use-btc-like-a-straight-up-g/

PrivateCallerIgnorer

Lol community takeover after a rugpull. A tale as old as time. DON'T INVEST YOU WILL BECOME EXIT LIQUIDITY

UniversalDarkMatter

Exactly he’ll go on to another website and keep scamming people! DON’T USE JUILOFXPRO.com Raising AWARENESS!

Zealousideal-Wrap-34

This is the internet. We come here to react with either despair or elation based on the last 6 hours. DON'T INTERRUPT MY AUTISTIC SCREECHING

MaximumStudent1839

> This also shows me that the community is purely toxic. Sadly, this is the reality. A large swath of participants here are very low-life human scums. It happens because of internet anonymity, permissionless system, and scamming/grifting has proven to be a very profitable endeavor here. It doesn't have to be that way. But it is right now. The hallmark signs of a very nascent but growing "economy" are all here. If you go back to early American history, you will also find a lot of unsavory characters making their fortunes. It is the same with more recent developing economies. China is a big example of crooks and criminals were the first to make their fortune. The logic is very simple. It is a risk-prone territory with not a great reputation. Ppl who have decent jobs and lives stick to the traditional stuff. ***They have less need to go out in the risk curve to make it in life.*** This means the space gets a disproportionately large influx of huge risk-takers. Often, these ppl take the risk not because they are interested in the space, but because they are somewhat strapped out of opportunities irl. You see this by how much the space idolizes former drug addicts, indicted criminals, proven serial grifters, etc. Yeah, the human quality side of crypto is absolute trash. > What are your thoughts on blockchain development? I wouldn't use the quality of humans here to gauge the usefulness of blockchain. As I said, there is no argument that we have the bottom of humanity's cesspool. I wouldn't recommend you build or invest in something you don't understand. You need to do your research! Always try out the product first before making any opinions. 99% of the stuff here is a waste of time. But that is part of the learning process - developing the intuition from trial/error to understand what is trash and what is gold. Again, for every newbie out there, DON'T INVEST IN ANYTHING HERE WITHOUT FIRST TRYING IT OUT! The only exception is BTC.

TroopSupportArrived

Personally, I convert every extra $ of fiat not actively being used to BTC; because, fiat is guaranteed to lose value at a rate of 2-9% APR to inflation; whereas Since inception, BTC has consistently shown significant annual gains; and are projected to continue for decades to come. It is already outperforming gold and replacing it as leverage! I purchased my first $10K of BTC in 2021 during the retreat (on the way down) from the ATH of 62K. I made a rookie mistake; and bought too soon, at 35K. Then I had to watch my 10k disintegrate to less than 5k as the price fell all the way to 16K. But you never lose money unless or until you SELL! So I said a few curse words and threw my Ledger wallet into a drawer, and said, "Screw it; it'll be back in a couple years." So I let it just sit there; then 1 1/2 years later BTC resurged agained; my loss was restored, then my investment doubled in just 10 days as BTC hit its new ALT of 74K. Bitcoin should be considered a solid long term investment (with occasional ops for short term gains, for the experienced)) Remember, you do not actually lose money unless or until you sell. I had full confidence in BTC so DON'T SELL THE DIPS! (USE DIPS TO BUY MORE!) DON'T THINK IT IS TOO LATE TO GET INTO BTC NOW, EVEN AT $70-80k! MOST ANALYSTS PROJECT BTC PRICE BY END OF YEAR TO BE $100K OR MORE; AND LIKE LIKELY A 100% GAIN A YEAR FROM NOW! AND THE PRICE BY 2030!? UNBELIEVABLE. START NOW FOR YOU, YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN!

NeuAscension

What are they going to do? Make you prove you DON'T own/self custody bitcoin? Good luck to them.

EmpiricalRutabaga

DON'T EVER USE BLOCKCHAIN.COM They routinely and randomly steal funds from people. Use Electrum. It's not that fucking hard.

Fish_OuttaWater

I learned early on that I had to cap my losses w/ stocks…. In as much as I’m not looking for home runs, I get in with a plan of how much profit I want to take, same goes for when it tanks - when shit starts doing a nose dive, I strap on my parachute & get out. Depending on the company & fundamentals, etc… a LOT of times dives are excellent buying opportunities & help to leverage average cost per share/unit. Felt compelled to share this when I saw you’re down nearly 100%. My cutoff is 20% on either swing of the axe. BTC is an entirely different beast, as the more I understand the more I DON’T want to trade it for fiat.

wvutrip

You only lost $108 and learned a valuable lesson. DON’T TRADE . You are too emotional and buying literal shit with your money. Of course you going to lose. Now start DCA into bitcoin and don’t worry about it for 5 years. You’ll be good

LargeSnorlax

You're 27 years old and have never worked a day in your life, by your own admission. You are ahead of 99.9% of people on Earth from the very start. International students here are going to food banks and working their ass off in a factory to make ends meet. There's no reason to deny this - You're the one that said it. Every other person on earth, except for the absolute top of the social ladder has had a different experience than you growing up. You "have to budget and plan everything", hahaha, you DON'T WORK. You're "budgeting" *other people's money.* You've never lived a day of your own life. Listen - If you want to live the life of a normal joe, stop blaming the "Tech layoffs", go and get a job for yourself, cut off the parent faucet, pay for your own school, and actually live the life of a normal person. You said your American friends look down upon you "for some reason" - I'm telling you the reason, because you're living a life that no one else lives.

pigeonwiggle

of course it makes sense. but good luck calling tops and bottoms. the best you can do is ride a general wave. but like, when bitcoin is up - and you sell - does it later go back down? or six months later are you fucked? when bitcoin popped from 16k to 40k, and you'd more than doubled your money - do you sell? ...it would then go on to 70k. and is still in the 60s right now. so if you sold at 40k, you'd be sitting here on your thumbs praying for a crash. best bet? DON'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. TAKE SOME PROFITS. keep detailed notes of all your buys and sells for tax time.

uwu2420

"Hey honey the house is being foreclosed on next week and sadly we've exhausted our options, but DON'T WORRY THE BLOCKCHAIN STILL PROVES THAT I OWN BAYC #8399"

ScoobaMonsta

You are screaming for more regulation and less decentralisation! And you are talking about it like you know what this space needs! Crypto doesn't need regulation. Exchanges need regulating. But decentralised ecosystems DON'T! If you can't handle this space and do your due diligence and research what you are getting into, then you deserve to lose your money. Learning the basics of protecting your sensitive information is not difficult at all. Anyone who says it is, is straight up lazy and only wants to get quick fiat gains for doing nothing at all. People who leave their coins on exchanges where they don't have possession of the private keys or the seed phrase deserve to lose their coins! People like you who whine and complain about the exchange getting hacked have been told time and time again to protect their assets by removing their coins from exchanges into non custodial wallets which you control. Yet you people continue to ignore the advice! And you then blame exchanges for you losing your coins! So go shove your centralised, regulation rhetoric where the sun don't shine.

golden_bear_2016

there is a glitch in the blockchain, the price is wrong. DON'T SELL, THE PRICE IS FAKE!! AAAHH!!!!!

tannerjohngates

I used to by every week on CashApp from 2018-2021. Switched to Strike since. Both are good options for now. Here are some options ranked from best to worst IMO: * Strike * CashApp * River * Swan * Kraken * Coinbase * Gemini * Binance * Robinhood If it's not listed above, DON'T USE IT! Also, be sure you are using the correct site/s. Finally set up 2FA on every account with Authy and/or Google Authenticator. Never use SMS/text 2FA! Lastly, get a hardware wallet. Don't leave your coins on an exchange. The whole point of bitcoin is to be your own bank.

PlayerPlayer69

It’s only 2x, 5x, 10x, 69,420x, if you can luckily time your exit at the peak, which is basically day trading. Here’s an example of why you *DON’T* want to hold a leveraged ETF/asset for long term: For argument sake, let’s imagine that BITX was around in 2020. If you held that 2x leveraged ETF when Bitcoin was around $10,000 in November 2020, you would’ve made 12x your investment on the ETF in 6 months, when Bitcoin hit $60,000 in April 2021. That’s when you *HAVE* to sell your position to realize a profit of 12x, because you know what would’ve happened, had you held for the long term? You would’ve seen Bitcoin pull back down by 50%, from $30,000 to $60,000, in 3 months. Which means if you still held onto your leveraged position, you would’ve eaten a 100% loss. If you held from July 2021, and onward, you would’ve seen Bitcoin double in price from $30,000 to $60,000 giving you a 4x increase with your leveraged ETF. If you held for another 6 months, instead of taking that 4x profit, you would’ve seen another 50% downturn by May 2022, eating another 100% loss. So you tell me, does holding a leveraged ETF in an asset that has historically tanked by 50% in the months following ATH, a good long-term hold?

Sphinxsta

This post is riddled with mistakes. The halving refers to the reward for MINERS being cut in half. There is usually 12 months' worth of upward price action following a halving. I very much doubt you own 432 BTC! You must have 432 EUROS worth of BTC. Put simply, DON'T SELL.

SmooveMari

My best advice for this bull run is… DON’T FORGET TO SALE!

bigl7007

Yea, i get it, but why not SEE the future, so i have "concrete" evidence to back-up my investment strategy. Who knows, maybe somebody comes along and invents "SHITCOIN", and in 10 years that's the coin that's worth $5,000,000 ( I'm sure it would have a more glamorous name 😆). ANYTHING can happen, life is just too unpredictable. What can we "actually" be sure of. Read all your sheets, look at past performances, but in the end, we just DON'T KNOW, that's why any investments comes with risk.

CinnamonHeartBabe

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa Have Fun Staying Poor DON'T threaten me with a good time.

Dettol-tasting-menu

Bitcoin is reversible if the recipient agrees to return the coin, just like cash payments. But unilateral “charge back” style of recouping payment is a) unfair to the merchant who shipped the goods; b) requires a third party to be the mediator/authority. I think there are good use cases for reversible payments such as credit card charges; but as a society we already have them today. What we DON’T have is the irreversible digital payment that behave just like cash coins and notes, but could be done digitally and remotely.

mad_bitcoin

Number #1 rule of Bitcoin, DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU HAVE BITCOIN! Number #2 rule of Bitcoin, keep your hardware wallets, seed plates in a secure hidden location. Something can't be seized if no one knows about it!

burghblast

Do you see the irony here? You are literally encouraging others to suffer the same fate. Why? I really don't get it. DO NOT RUN FROM POLICE. DON'T DO IT. It won't matter if they're later found to be at fault

YourFixJustRuinsIt

It’s not like we don’t chant this EVERY thread, not your keys… and DON’T answer DMs

__Anomalous__

Haha. Aw. Don't be mean to the authoritarians. How would you like it if every time you thought about the relentless, unstoppable growth of the world's first, last and truest decentralised monetary network, you started convulsing wildly & vomiting profusely whilst shouting "IT'S NOTHING. I CAN'T CONTROL IT. I CAN'T CONTROL IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STOP IT. *HU-BLEEEERGH*. IT'S... NOTHING..."

Affectionate-Web-242

Yeap that's nice too BUT ALWAYS SET A TARGET AND DON'T GET GREEDY.....ask me how ? Let's say you invested $300 on Dodge at $0.07 and your target was to sell at $0.22 then always take profit at $0.22 first, wait for a correction then get back again into the market if you want to or stop there depending on your goals (was it a short term investment or a long term investment) don't go like "if it reached $0.22 then it'll reach 0.25 or $0.30" that way you'll be disappointed coz crypto prices always fluctuate, taking profit is the best part of any investment!

cecil_X

> I clicked on the email This is what all the people scammed have in common. STOP CLICKING ON EMAILS. DON'T. JUST DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T!!!!!!!!!!!

Puzzleheaded_Yard468

Is it cold? Or hot hot hot ? Cause you rather DON’T want a Wallet HOT HOT HOT ! 👎🏻

arlofischer

DON'T DO IT! Expensive weddings are overrated and never worth it.

vanlifecrypto

uhhh what?? You DON'T want to make more money? You don't want to use a higher salary to buy more Bitcoin, making more money on top of more money?? &#x200B; I mean if you have enough to never worry about money again then that's fine, but you say what you have is enough for an emergency, which is very different. Heck, I retired off my Bitcoin in 2019 and I am still thinking of how to make more money in the future during my retirement (partially to buy even more bitcoin). &#x200B; Jobs and making money are never guaranteed. You should definitely go for the promotion if you can get it, unless it involves new responsibilities which you just don't want. But feeling like you don't want to do more than the bare minimum and never make more money just because you own some bitcoin is probably some sort of issue with your ambition/motivation in life.

LUKIN_TEAST

I was just like you 3 years ago. Just remember that you cannot predict the market, you can just find opportunities with a long-term strategy. Now, let's start with my suggestion: Go on youtube and search for a video that teaches you how the blockchain works and what are the purposes of different cryptocurrencies (search for videos that explain it simply). Then, I recommend a book named THE BITCOIN STANDARD, by Saifedean Ammous, it was the first one I read and teaches you everything about currencies (old and modern). But when I finished reading that, I found out you need a base of knowledge on the technology behind this things to understand the rest. That's why I decided to write a short guide a couple months ago about cryptocurrencies and all that (wallets, why do some coins explode and die in days, how to create accounts and wallets, secure your assets...) and I will post it on Amazon as an ebook, if you are interested. After you did all that, find good projects with purposes and very specific utilities. Invest in them and wait for one or two to explode (I mean REALLY EXPLODE and make you 10, 20, 50 or 100x on your investment). Sell and enjoy. JUST DON'T GO CRAZY AT THE BEGGINING!

piggleii

Yeah so do the opposite of what this guy says and DON’T buy ADA.

ScoobaMonsta

Because you can hedge your trades for crypto profits and not fiat profits while not having to deal with submitting tax forms. If you hedge your trades for crypto you can increase your coin holdings on both sides of the trade. For example if you are trading BTC and ETH, you can increase both your ETH stack and BTC stack on each trade. Your overall coins increase. In the long run your wealth is much greater than just taking fiat profits. And when you do this on non kyc exchanges your government doesn't know how much crypto you own. I've been trading crypto for crypto since 2016. Increasing my crypto holdings has increased my wealth drastically more than how much fiat I have. I work and earn fiat. I use that fiat. I don't save my wealth in fiat. I save my wealth in crypto and in property and other assets. Don't look accumulation of fiat to increase your wealth. Look at accumulation of crypto to increase your wealth! People who care about the day to day price of their coins are noobs in the crypto space. If you want to get rich from crypto, DON'T think in how much fiat. Think in how much crypto you have.

Background-Paper-686

Yeah exactly, you can't find anything wrong with the coin, we have over 6M in liquidity, and it takes like $100k to move this coin anywhere, no one needs your $1, so you realize all of this, and then you resort to "well you know, o just, you know I don't like shilling" I DON'T LIKE SHILLING. I DON'T LIKE ADVERTISING. DON'T ADVERTISE TO ME. You're a loser end of story.

Bitcoin_To_The_Moon_

DON´T USE blockchain,com!

summonsterism

YOU DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A SCAM? Mate, when you go to a shop and don't get the thing you paid for - do they ask you to give them more money to fix it? You got scammed, You must see this.

what-why-

This is why you only invest with money you DON’T NEED. The money in crypto is gone. You hear me, gone!

JohnniePeters

Usually I am a "winning" futures trader. But even if you win, you will still feel like you lost. Example: Last thursday I made an 80% profit within the span of an hour. I was satisfied at that moment, I hit my target and closed my X20 position. Only to find out alter that day the coin didn't stop mooning after a small correction, therefore I missed out on another 400% gain that dat. So my feeling: I LOST! No matter what, you will always lose in futures. I'm doing this for a long time, so I know about this feeling and I can put it aside quickly, but I still have that feeling. Furthermore you should have done it with money you were prepared to lose without any regrets. And let me give everybody a tip: don't do it if you don't know what you're doing. And IF you do always take out the profit and DON'T re-invest in futures, but buy coins on the spot and hold them until bear market starts. So always come back to the initial amount of money. Even if you only "win" like $10,- on a trade, than transfer it to your spot account and buy more good crypto. Last thing: when bullmarket is over (I think this will be a long one, so at least 11-15 months from now) you keep an eye on meme-coins. They tank twice as hard when the sell-off begins.

reliable35

RENDER is going minimum $100+ this cycle. 1 - It’s Solana’s AI & Depin coin 2 - It’s got partnerships with Disney & has real world utility in Hollywood. J.J Abrams is on the board. 3 - Breaking News: Partnership with Stability AI worlds leading AI company. 4 - One of only two Crypto’s where the CEO is a key speaker at Nvidia GTC 2024. This years most significant tech conference. 5 - YOU DON’T OWN ENOUGH RENDER… hits every narrative this cycle..

RicoBelled

DON'T pay off your house, learn about inflation. Chances are the interest rate on your mortgage is lower than current inflation, so holding that loan actually MAKES you money. DO take profits off the table to cash or gold. I don't have kids so I can take bigger risks than you, but I believe in BTC for the long run; I'd be very surprised if it didn't hit at least 500k in the next 5 or 6 years. At some point, IMHO, the price will stabilize and become kind of like gold. I'm not selling most of my BTC until above 200k.

dark_deadline

Imagine being here and crying you could've done another 25x if you would've bought at 2c but keep crying WE DON'T CARE

yazan154a

PAXFUL SCAM COMPANY Don't using this company.. FROM 10 days trying to contact support teams but no answer. My issue is not a big issue just need verfiy phone number ( PAXFUL said need a mints to do this ) from 10 days no one back to me... Paxful trying to buy my account  but not accepted... PAXFUL CREATED A FAKE BUYER ACCOUNT TO STEEL MONEY.. ANYONE'S SENDING MONEY AND NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING MESSAGES ME TO SENDING IT TO MY LAWYER.. TRYING to HACKING my account.. AFTER THAT REPLY AND TELL ME ( HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEM) SO PAXFUL NO ABOUT HACKER'S OR PAXFUL A HACKER'S... PAXFUL DOWN BLOK MY ACCOUNT IF NOT A SCAM COMPANY PROVING THAT BY REPLY... IF NOT A SCAM.. I HAVING A PROVING THAT A PAXFUL A SCAM... ANYONE'S HAVING BALANCE IN PAXFUL SENDING OUT TO ANOTHER PLATFORM..( IF YOU CAN) HAVING A PROVE... IF PAXFUL NOT A SCAM REPLY DON'T BLOCK MY ACCOUNT...

AdAltruistic5445

I was also skeptic when I first saw this coin but the minute I saw how active, hard working and tight the community was I JUMPED IN and I DON’T regret it one second! We have people from 4 continents all working towards the same goal, it’s actually quite an amazing thing to witness!!

Pretenderinchief

Are you telling us to buy? I DON’T UNDERSTAND. To the MooooooOOOOOOooooon!!!!