EVER

_RonPaulWasRight_

Well said, but I actually agree with this post. In fact, this post spells out precisely why I do not EVER go to these conventions, despite being an avid Bitcoiner for several years now. It's just, unnecessary and misses the point of Bitcoin. The point of Bitcoin is to NOT be stolen from. Oh well. Still good publicity for the cause.

TheGameOfPawns

We dropped Microsoft (all products) years ago. BEST DECISION EVER!!!!

pennyPete

Didn’t the Bitcoin ETFs have the biggest inflow… of all ETFs … EVER?

Arthur-N-Owen

Bitcoin has zero fucks to give…. EVER. Get used to it.

voice-of-reason_

You should definitely read about “energy currency” experiments in the 1920s and see how similar it is to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the result of 100+ years of r and d. It isn’t stupid if you understand the problem. More than 50% of all USD EVER was printed post 2020 - but sure, Bitcoin is stupid lol.

marshyr3d1and

How long have you been into bitcoin? NEVER EVER store your pass phrase on line. Not only that but you've just told all the hackers and scammers watching this sub where they are. You really need to do more research.

Marin247

Show your wife the chart of BTC's performance vs every other major asset class. It blows them all away over the last 15 years. When you think about the fact that inflation is part of the returns in stocks, real estate, etc., there is no comparison. Invest in hard assets that can't be debased. If she understood, she wouldn't be nervous. The risk associated with BTC is now the lowest it's EVER been.

dontblamemeivotedfor

> I created a coinbase account and imported the wallet (learned this from a youtube video that another redditor suggested) but the funds do not match what he would always show me when he was alive. Fucking hell. Don't EVER do that. You NEVER type a seed phrase into any website or even a computer that sometimes gets connected to the internet. Seed phrases stay ONLY on offline devices that are dedicated to being used for transaction signing. If you haven't already lost everything, then KEEP THE FUCKING MACHINE OFFLINE. Go learn about wallets, how to set up Electrum or a hardware wallet, and how to check balances with watch-only wallets.

BeastMustang

Rule No. 1: Never ever ever ever EVER connect your wallet to a website you are sent by someone you don't know. 2. Never ever EVER EVER give you private key or seed phrase to someone under any circumstances. 3. Never have all your funds in 1 wallet. Always use a minimum 2 wallets. One of them where majority of your funds are, from this wallet you never make a buy/sell, you never connect it anywhere, all you do is transfer funds to/from wallet number two (call it intermediate wallet if you will). Make sure the funds you transfer are from well established coins/tokens. 4. In time, depending on your circle, you will meet some great people (majority are scammers) but then you meet a 1 in 1000 legit person. Keep them close, build trust both ways, expand your circle.

CointestMod

#Monero Pro-Arguments Below is a Monero pro-argument written by roberthonker. > **Taken from /u\/awhodothey's submission from last round** > > Assume no consumers ever care about privacy. Assume everyone is totally fine with all of their finances and purchase records being 100% visible on the blockchain to anyone who EVER pays or receives crypto from them once. Or assume crypto never catches on enough for casual consumers to realize they don't want every company to know every detail of their life... Monero will still succeed. Monero's real world market adoption will still continue to grow. > > Assume Monero was banned by every country in the world. Monero is the only coin who's market cap would be projected to increase even if it was completely banned, because Monero is the preferred coin of the black market, and black market activities are, by definition, already banned by law. > > The market cap of the black market is the market cap of every commercial activity that governments physically cannot stop. Monero's usage, market cap and price are increasing as the black market very slowly adopts Monero- despite the fact that most exchanges have already delisted XMR. Monero is the only multi-billion dollar coin that is known to have no chance at being listed on some of the biggest exchanges. So why is it worth so much still? Because unlike every other crypto, Monero is actually used as an exchange currency in the real world. > > The global black market is currently estimated to be over $10 trillion/year- larger than the economy of every country in Europe. If the global black market were a country it would be the second or third largest economy in the world. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2011/11/07/rise-of-the-shadow-economy-second-largest-economy-in-the-world/?sh=4198b6cf4a0e > > The anonymity of Monero is comparable to the anonymity of cash, but Monero is much cheaper and faster than cash transfers. Further, because Monero does not need to be physically transfered or stored, it is much safer and greatly reduces the risk of violence and theft to black market participants. > > But what if every single centralized exchange removed Monero? It's too late. All the necessary pieces are already on the board. Atomic swaps with bitcoin are live, and wallets are rushing to integrate decentralized, trustless BTC to XMR exchange. Secret Network already has a tokenized version of Monero (sXMR) on the testnet of Secret Swap (a private, decentralized exchange that anyone can use without KYC). Every major crypto will be convertible to Monero. And options like "localMonero" already exist for anyone who wants to convert cash or refillable debit cards directly to Monero. > > Monero is the leading privacy coin, and the only trustless privacy coin with a network effect and proven track record of real world use. It is privacy by default, and users have no risk of forgetting to enable privacy. The Monero network is highly decentralized and open source and does not require users to trust its creators. The community is active and passionately unified around the core objectives of creating a real decentralized currency that is private. The IRS's bounty for anyone who can crack Monero is a testament to years of proven success. > > Monero is *the* crypto currency of the black market. Monero has no competition in that market, and it leaves no room for another coin to prove itself. Worst case scenario, Monero is outlawed and rejected by all law abiding citizens of the world. Monero would eventually replace blackmarket currencies and make some black market practices, like money laundering and off shore banking, entirely unnecessary. > > There is no need for slow, extremely expensive off shore banking practices that carry privacy risks (like the Panama papers that leaked account holder's names) and security risks (like the government reforms that have lead to account confiscations). Monero is cheaper, faster, easier, safer, and more private. It makes off shore banking completely obsolete. > > The market cap of gold is about $11 trillion. Low end estimate of the offshore banking market cap is $20 trillion. At $222, the current market cap of Monero is about $4 billion. When Monero's market cap reaches 1% of the low estimate of the illegal global offshore banking market, that will make each Monero worth more than $11,000. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/?sh=191f47fa6ba6 > > Monero will inevitably become a major currency of the future. Probably nothing can stop that, so you may as well think about your privacy and choose to use it to protect your perfectly legal transactions too. Fortunately, Monero is designed to be a currency, not a store of value with a fixed supply that discourages spending. > > Black market adoption will put buy pressure on XMR, and that demand will slowly drive the price up. Monero may not be the fastest growing investment opportunity, but that's what makes it a better currency. I can't name an investment that would be lower risk, or name a better crypto currency. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Monero) to find submissions for other topics.

godofleet

Fucking gross. DJT is a fucking traitor and scammer who doesn't give a shit about anyone anything most certainly bitcoin. What a fucking joke and a disgrace that they would invite or involve him with a bitcoin conference... He embodies practically everything wrong with the fiat system and is simply pandering for votes... Absolutely never EVER going to a Bitcoin conference (they are a scam to begin with given the cost to even walk through the doors most of the time)

Darkpriest667

You're ahead of where the majority of people on earth will EVER be. You're in the game earlier than most.

Darkpriest667

is the fiat money supply going to decrease in the coming 10 years? Are they actually going to start backing it with something? BTC is solid 21 million EVER. and probably more like 17 million considering how much is lost.

lsmith339

Sad to hear. Some of these folks are very convincing but if we all just adhere to the ONE simple rule, we’d be mostly safe. The rule being that no bank, finance company, or IT will EVER call you and try to get you to make changes…EVER. Tell them they’re a scam and watch how mad they get. A legit person would always be like, I understand your concern….

Gig-a-bit

Hate it for you dude. Never, EVER give any info to an unsolicited phone call!

crimeo

Wtf do you think banks did for a living in 1800? In your mind, they can't have a fractional reserve, so in your mind, they kept 100% of the money on site. Then they had to give all of it back later... So... how did they ever make any money lmao? All banking, EVER, was fractional reserve banking.

not-a-bot-693528

Bitcoin and chill is the mf way. I have never felt financially comfy EVER until sometime after I bought a whole coin at the end of 2022 (and after a stupid amount of research and my own schizo TA). Then got another one when I could in the 30-44k. Friends are worried and keep telling me to diversify. People like Ramsay who they listen to have successfully missed a 13x from his “turn a million into zero” comment. There is no second best. HFSP

sauciestwaters

Garbage you want quality buy KAS RNDR for large caps even INJ. Smaller 100x potential for one QUBIC founder of IOTA first creator of DAG first creator of pure PoS... and a top returning coin EVER . It's at lows right now I'd be accumulating. Many more I do this for living but NFA here. Just remember this post.

BeautifulShot

I concur. With entirely different economic conditions than ANY crypto cycle, EVER....there is no past data to accurately forecast anything at this time.

FlyHealthy1714

Fifth sentence... What is centralized is what matters. You know what is centralized? Now and soon to be centralized: Property ownership Citizenship Automobile registration Driver's license Healthcare The internet and all electronic communication Take property ownership...in freedom loving America, you must pay property tax. They will not EVER accept BTC. If you don't pay? You lose your house. This is indisputable. Citizenship...same with income tax. Go to jail possible but lose property. Don't pay auto tax or annual renewal? How about government owned electricity and water utilities? They will not take crypto.

ieatvegans

It will NEVER go below 60k EVER again. Until it does.

clicksanything

> I miss the old bitcoiners Some of em are still around, but I don’t blame them for leaving. Most new folks in the sub hold little bitcoin, or no BTC at all but love to talk a big game. My favourite are the ones that are convinced bitcoin will NEVER EVER hit ______ price bc we’d need planets worth of cash to uphold its market cap. Lol. You’d think these guys started in 2014 or smth by the way they talk, but then u find out they dont even have a fundamental grasp on market cap and price work.

clicksanything

You would be correct in that assumption. Most people in this sub hold little bitcoin, or no BTC at all but talk a big game. My favourite are the ones that are *convinced* bitcoin will NEVER EVER hit ______ price bc we’d need planets worth of cash to uphold it. Lol. Like you said, they’re just lurkers. Wannabes. Yet they dont have a fundamental grasp on market cap and price.

CatchingWicks

500k is not happening in the next 5 years. Could it ever get there. Sure, but not in 5 years. 100 years maybe. The market cap would have to be around 10.5 trillion to reach 500k. The ONLY asset to EVER clear a 10 trillion market cap is gold. But with reason it’s the reserve for central banks. Will banks switch to BTC as a reserve? Maybe, but not in our lifetime. You know how long it takes a bank to just change a simple policy? They aren’t changing anything of that magnitude in the next 5 years and I bet it doesn’t even happen in the next 100 years. Finally, below are the top 4 market caps in the world. The next closest to gold is $3.3 trillion which is not even close. You can actually add Microsoft, Apple and NVDA all together and it still falls short of 10 trillion. 1. **Gold**: Approximately $13 trillion. 2. **Microsoft**: $3.327 trillion. 3. **Apple**: $3.192 trillion. 4. **Nvidia**: $2.903 trillion For this bull run. Max price is $120-150k. Absolutely the max. It might not even get there but it’s absolutely not breaking over $150k. Not a chance.

CointestMod

#Monero Pro-Arguments Below is a Monero pro-argument written by roberthonker. > **Taken from /u\/awhodothey's submission from last round** > > Assume no consumers ever care about privacy. Assume everyone is totally fine with all of their finances and purchase records being 100% visible on the blockchain to anyone who EVER pays or receives crypto from them once. Or assume crypto never catches on enough for casual consumers to realize they don't want every company to know every detail of their life... Monero will still succeed. Monero's real world market adoption will still continue to grow. > > Assume Monero was banned by every country in the world. Monero is the only coin who's market cap would be projected to increase even if it was completely banned, because Monero is the preferred coin of the black market, and black market activities are, by definition, already banned by law. > > The market cap of the black market is the market cap of every commercial activity that governments physically cannot stop. Monero's usage, market cap and price are increasing as the black market very slowly adopts Monero- despite the fact that most exchanges have already delisted XMR. Monero is the only multi-billion dollar coin that is known to have no chance at being listed on some of the biggest exchanges. So why is it worth so much still? Because unlike every other crypto, Monero is actually used as an exchange currency in the real world. > > The global black market is currently estimated to be over $10 trillion/year- larger than the economy of every country in Europe. If the global black market were a country it would be the second or third largest economy in the world. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2011/11/07/rise-of-the-shadow-economy-second-largest-economy-in-the-world/?sh=4198b6cf4a0e > > The anonymity of Monero is comparable to the anonymity of cash, but Monero is much cheaper and faster than cash transfers. Further, because Monero does not need to be physically transfered or stored, it is much safer and greatly reduces the risk of violence and theft to black market participants. > > But what if every single centralized exchange removed Monero? It's too late. All the necessary pieces are already on the board. Atomic swaps with bitcoin are live, and wallets are rushing to integrate decentralized, trustless BTC to XMR exchange. Secret Network already has a tokenized version of Monero (sXMR) on the testnet of Secret Swap (a private, decentralized exchange that anyone can use without KYC). Every major crypto will be convertible to Monero. And options like "localMonero" already exist for anyone who wants to convert cash or refillable debit cards directly to Monero. > > Monero is the leading privacy coin, and the only trustless privacy coin with a network effect and proven track record of real world use. It is privacy by default, and users have no risk of forgetting to enable privacy. The Monero network is highly decentralized and open source and does not require users to trust its creators. The community is active and passionately unified around the core objectives of creating a real decentralized currency that is private. The IRS's bounty for anyone who can crack Monero is a testament to years of proven success. > > Monero is *the* crypto currency of the black market. Monero has no competition in that market, and it leaves no room for another coin to prove itself. Worst case scenario, Monero is outlawed and rejected by all law abiding citizens of the world. Monero would eventually replace blackmarket currencies and make some black market practices, like money laundering and off shore banking, entirely unnecessary. > > There is no need for slow, extremely expensive off shore banking practices that carry privacy risks (like the Panama papers that leaked account holder's names) and security risks (like the government reforms that have lead to account confiscations). Monero is cheaper, faster, easier, safer, and more private. It makes off shore banking completely obsolete. > > The market cap of gold is about $11 trillion. Low end estimate of the offshore banking market cap is $20 trillion. At $222, the current market cap of Monero is about $4 billion. When Monero's market cap reaches 1% of the low estimate of the illegal global offshore banking market, that will make each Monero worth more than $11,000. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/?sh=191f47fa6ba6 > > Monero will inevitably become a major currency of the future. Probably nothing can stop that, so you may as well think about your privacy and choose to use it to protect your perfectly legal transactions too. Fortunately, Monero is designed to be a currency, not a store of value with a fixed supply that discourages spending. > > Black market adoption will put buy pressure on XMR, and that demand will slowly drive the price up. Monero may not be the fastest growing investment opportunity, but that's what makes it a better currency. I can't name an investment that would be lower risk, or name a better crypto currency. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Monero) to find submissions for other topics.

Blooberino

The worst thing is ALGO is my 2nd most used coin, next to XLM. Coins I've never EVER used are making me money, but ones thar are so easy/quick/cheap to use are hemorrhaging cash.

c05d

Ain’t no one taking my bitcoins EVER

njamimaranga

NEVER EVER DOUBT WIF . It could to absolute zero but within a day it would resurrect to ATH. Feel sorry for those weak legs that sold their WIF . from $1.45 to $1.9 within 24 hours . Next stop should be $6.7 . The good thing about WIF its in the Top 50 . Everyone knows it . If looses soo much market cap when it goes down but increases market cap when it tanks. WIF & BOME will outperform BTC

michelvankessel

Oh boy…be very very careful from now on. You will be haunted by scammers via DMs on reddit and even on other socials. That being said, NEVER EVER give the words to anyone. Only use them to restore in an application, on a trusted device. (I used electrum wallet my self)

LimitAlternative2629

buy hold on cold storage like cold card or bitbox never ever EVER trade it never rotate into shitcoins use bitfinex learn passphrase learn multisig

TertlFace

>my knowledge level in crypto is above average And yet you don’t know that you NEVER EVER EVER enter your seed phrase into ANYTHING except the hardware wallet. Not as above average as you think. Dunning-Krueger in full effect.

SeparateReporter6625

The best and friendliest community EVER

CockyMechanic

My bank called me to offer me a credit card. At the time I needed to build credit and was planning on opening more lines of credit, so sure, I'll listen. It all sounded good so i agreed. Then she started asking for personal information. I said... "Hold up, I don't know you're actually the bank, so I won't tell you that. You have all the information you need from me". She said she has to confirm to sign me up. So I asked her which branch she was at and who to ask for when I call so I can get back to her and confirm she actually works for the bank. She told me. I looked up the bank, called it and got to her. She told me now that she thinks about it, that was super smart of me to verify before giving any personal information but this is her job and no one has EVER asked for confirmation before giving out their personal information... It wasn't a scam, but just thinking about how many people freely give away their information is bad. Someone showed up at my door the other day (selling something I assume) and held up a tablet with my wife's name and our address and asked if this was me. I'm not even going to confirm that shit. I just said, "Who are you?" followed with "Who do you work for and do you have an ID?" Don't ever give anyone any personal information because you never know the next trick...

MoralityIsUPB

What could be a more effective way of solving that problem then removing the MEANS to becoming more Rich at the cost of people who have less though? Fiat is literally the single most effective and insidious way of doing this. Switching to bitcoin is the single most financially emancipatory thing any society could ever do EVER, because you can't simply decide you have more money now thus making everyone else's money less valuable effectively amounting to mass theft on a scale otherwise unimaginable.

Schwickity

there is absolutely no chance of the rent on this house outperforming btc EVER, but I'm glad you like your yellow house (bitcoin's color is orange).

JeffWest01

They somehow got your seed words. Did you EVER put them on a computer, or phone, or take a picture of them? Or have them written down where someone could see them? A good way to add a layer of safety to seed words is to use a passphrase and DO NOT store the words and passphrase together.

gokhaninler

You will never EVER see a bullmarket like 2021 again

drhodl

Crypto is FULL of grifters and fraudsters. THOSE are the people surrounding tRump and whispering things in his ear, of which he remembers some words and regurgitates them. tRump has NEVER not taken the fraudulent path, in anything, EVER. And yet, you say he's pro-crypto LOL? He's pro-fraud and pro money laundering, and that is all. He does not give a single fuck about you or anyone else.

Hornarama

Now imagine a global economy just running on it. NO TAXES to ANYONE, EVER.

GGAllinzGhost

The concept of never ever EVER using it is dumb.

Zealousideal-Weight5

It's never too late to get into Bitcoin for #1. #2 Bitcoin adoption right now is where the Internet was in the early 2000s #3 The Internet didn't fully catch on and didn't achieve mostly full adoption until like 2010 - present imo #4 So if they think about it, everybody getting in up until it blows up to full adoption is still getting in early. #5 They will regret not getting in now in the future when we do reach full adoption so don't let anything stop em #6 DCAing overall has not failed me yet. I got in late too, I got in for the first time at the beginning of 2020. I even sold some to make my down payment on my house in 2022. I thought I was late to the ball game when I watched Bitcoin go from a few thousand dollars to over 20k then it kept going up and down and up even further. If I had given up then and stopped I wouldn't have what I have now. It's never too late. Plus my money grows more in Bitcoin than it EVER has holding it in fiat. 💯 Facts

Spiritual_Navigator

I thought I could make it.... But my gambling addiction has led me to bankruptcy and suicidality Never EVER touch leverage trading... One month you are up 10x, next month youve lost it all P.s. is it legal that an exchange closes a trade at -40% and takes ALL of the funds? One Nightshift in hospice I thought I could play the market... But instead got played

USCitizenSlave

Btc is the opposite of “stable”, if that ever happened nobody would EVER buy Bitcoin they buy it for the volatility

stimul8s

DONT EVER FADE THE FADE https://preview.redd.it/6ysngolh7k5d1.jpeg?width=1093&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11f8e26810a8a23fbcc70a032560225ad01e0000

rjm101

Day 3001: Dear dairy, we are still at the $69k mark. Starting to contemplate whether "$69k 4 EVER" t-shirts would make for a good sale after all: at this rate it seems it will stay relevant.

njamimaranga

You never EVER panick sell the dib , but you buy the dip .ALWAYS

Libertos

Never, EVER store your seed in ANY type of tech / digital format. Analog only. Capiche?

TieEnvironmental8474

The sad thing is so many just cannot see this. I have been Hodling for a while also, buying every week without fail. The best savings plan EVER.

LimitAlternative2629

2. You want one for you and another one as a backup, also for you to practise the restoration of the first, to ensure you got the access either through memory card or seed phrase. Also important: NEVER EVER hand over your seed phrase, never take a picture, let alone safe it locally or in a cloud, never say it out loud and be sure to be alone and not observable when you are using your device. LEARN ABOUT USING A PASSPHRASE. This is a "25th" word that gives you a hidden layer of security and plausible deniability. Bitbox has this and I recommend to get it, but in all fairness, the integration of ledger is better, because now you have TWO pins, and you can surrender one without a second one being none. On Bitbox unfortunately it will ASK you for the passphrase if you have one, which undermines that layer of security. However I talked to Bitbox about it and I think they have it on the roadmap. They also have the BIP 85 . although I don't quite yet know what that is, it is helpful: [https://bitbox.swiss/blog/bitbox-04-2024-brienz-update/](https://bitbox.swiss/blog/bitbox-04-2024-brienz-update/)

Local_Doubt_4029

What??? You weren't A NOOBIE? EVER? Relax man. People are getting excited about this movement and people are joining, of course there's going to be noobies.

ReasonablePossum_

My gowd , sweet summer child.....No they/you/us dont.... at all, quite the contrary even lol NSA and other agencies get zero-day power over encryption methods, any old/new hardware or software comming into mainstream, and banks just old-school couped btc half a decade ago... There is no "vote-out" in a game where you dont pick who goes in, and corruption is practically legal (please do yourself a favor and google the definition of "lobbying") what tha hell you talking about? Have you missed all the dissection of the system that the Sanders/Clinton fiasco provided? And for the "rule of law"...... have you EVER watched the news?.... i mean, are you seeing what the US is doing to a presidential candidate?.. are you seeing what is legally happening around Israel bullshittery? Have you seen a single politician or banker go to jail for the 2009 crash? Have you seen anyone go to jail for sending americans to die in Irak and destroying a nation o bogus claims?. "RuLe oF LaW" LOL All messaging apps have been accessible for LEA for years my dude. It just depends on how high you are on their interest lists as to deploy that capability or not. This dude lives in the Marvelverse LOL.

ObnoxiousTwit

Man, I'm really not trying to get into a political debate here, just trying to point out the discrepancies of what Trump says vs what Trump does in the context of a political administration. I'm not going to make an argument for Biden related to crypto, I think there are very few politicians who get it, period, to everyone else it's just a black box of mystery and to them that's scary. But "Trump says" should never, EVER be a statement used to indicate where he stands on any given topic.

b0uncyfr0

Dont EVER give your bitcoin to anybody. Its dumb and reckless at this point.

Self_Blumpkin

A Billion dollar Bitcoin would put the market cap at 40 QUADRILLION dollars. USD would need to become more worthless than the Venezuelan Bolivar. We’d be wiping our asses with $10,000 bills. The entire world economy would collapse. People really have no idea how market caps work. Saying one BTC is going to a Billion dollars is equivalent to saying that the median household income in the US is in the millions of dollars. It’s nice to dream about BTC being worth a fuck load of money, but at some point it goes from a fun dream to absolutely fucking ridiculous fantasy that will NEVER EVER come true. For it to come true all countries would need to go the Venezuelan route and at that point, you wouldn’t even want to live anymore because the world would be so insanely fucked up for other reasons. This subreddit is funny sometimes.

Self_Blumpkin

A Billion dollar Bitcoin would put the market cap at 40 QUADRILLION dollars. USD would need to become more worthless than the Venezuelan Bolivar. We’d be wiping our asses with $10,000 bills. The entire world economy would collapse. People really have no idea how market caps work. Saying one BTC is going to a Billion dollars is equivalent to saying that the median household income in the US is in the millions of dollars. It’s nice to dream about BTC being worth a fuck load of money, but at some point it goes from a fun dream to absolutely fucking ridiculous fantasy that will NEVER EVER come true. For it to come true all countries would need to go the Venezuelan route and at that point, you wouldn’t even want to live anymore because the world would be so insanely fucked up for other reasons. This subreddit is funny sometimes.

Self_Blumpkin

A Billion dollar Bitcoin would put the market cap at 40 QUADRILLION dollars. USD would need to become more worthless than the Venezuelan Bolivar. We’d be wiping our asses with $10,000 bills. The entire world economy would collapse. People really have no idea how market caps work. Saying one BTC is going to a Billion dollars is equivalent to saying that the median household income in the US is in the millions of dollars. It’s nice to dream about BTC being worth a fuck load of money, but at some point it goes from a fun dream to absolutely fucking ridiculous fantasy that will NEVER EVER come true. For it to come true all countries would need to go the Venezuelan route and at that point, you wouldn’t even want to live anymore because the world would be so insanely fucked up for other reasons. This subreddit is funny sometimes.

Self_Blumpkin

A Billion dollar Bitcoin would put the market cap at 40 QUADRILLION dollars. USD would need to become more worthless than the Venezuelan Bolivar. We’d be wiping our asses with $10,000 bills. The entire world economy would collapse. People really have no idea how market caps work. Saying one BTC is going to a Billion dollars is equivalent to saying that the median household income in the US is in the millions of dollars. It’s nice to dream about BTC being worth a fuck load of money, but at some point it goes from a fun dream to absolutely fucking ridiculous fantasy that will NEVER EVER come true. For it to come true all countries would need to go the Venezuelan route and at that point, you wouldn’t even want to live anymore because the world would be so insanely fucked up for other reasons. This subreddit is funny sometimes.

Self_Blumpkin

A Billion dollar Bitcoin would put the market cap at 40 QUADRILLION dollars. USD would need to become more worthless than the Venezuelan Bolivar. We’d be wiping our asses with $10,000 bills. The entire world economy would collapse. People really have no idea how market caps work. Saying one BTC is going to a Billion dollars is equivalent to saying that the median household income in the US is in the millions of dollars. It’s nice to dream about BTC being worth a fuck load of money, but at some point it goes from a fun dream to absolutely fucking ridiculous fantasy that will NEVER EVER come true. For it to come true all countries would need to go the Venezuelan route and at that point, you wouldn’t even want to live anymore because the world would be so insanely fucked up for other reasons. This subreddit is funny sometimes.

SiriusCasanova

lmaooo imagine bagholding this ghostchain this is the same level of scam as hbar iota eos etc etc etc nobody uses it and nobody will no, REaL wORLd AssEts tOKENizATIOn isnt coming to algo... at least the good products. if they are coming to the blockchain why would they EVER chose this 1M 24hr ghostchain? u guys inhale some good copium

lordsamadhi

I'm not buying dollars.... EVER. So, I don't think I'm qualified to answer your question.

ScoobaMonsta

Everything you said is a load of shit! 🤣. I bet you can't produce any facts to back up your claims here? Market cap is irrelevant to how private it is! On chain transactions and its ever increasing hashrate is what makes Monero blow everything else out of the water! Litecoin has lower fees than Monero? Monero fees are 1 cent or less! Monero is extremely cheap to use! And Monero has never gone down! Monero community cares about privacy! It won't compromise on privacy. EVER.

nerdiestnerdballer

Did you get your funds you, if so im so happy for you, you are SO lucky you saw this transaction and were able to RBF it before the attackers transaction settled! Please never enter your seed phrase into any online device EVER! this is what airgapped hardware wallets are for.

0xR4Z3D

Historically the halving is just a starting bell and it takes a full year to get into the real swing of the rally. Its never EVER broken the old ATH before a halving, until this time.

the_lone_unlearned

hahaha exactly! \*no one EVER will have to deal with :D

Sam0883

I’d recommend trying to learn more about how BTC wallets work you don’t need to go right to a hardware wallet right away you can use start with a software wallet and use that same private key on your hardware wallet once you get to that point . Nothing wrong with keeping a few bucks in Coinbase but it’s good experience to learn how to manage your own wallet before you have thousands of dollars in it and want to move it . And as always never ever EVER share your key with anyone !

spajn

So you kept your bitcoin on a CEX? ARE YOU PEOPLE EVER GONNA LEARN?????????????????

99999999999999999989

They refunded all of the lost funds no problem. No one ever found the specific route used to access the account. Looking back I could not find anything that I specifically did that might have provided a vector. There had been a couple of high profile database hacks that stored a lot of information in the months prior so we figured that had something to do with it. As I said, you can be as vigilant as you want but if your water company gets ransomware because some moron tech wants to see nAKeD pICs oF TaYLoR sWIfT and their manager decides that backing up the customer servers just isn't worth the cost because what are the odds they will EVER need them then you're probably going to have a bad day some day and it won't be your fault at all.

theduke9

University isn’t just about getting a piece of paper. Some of the top research EVER came out of higher ed.

Direct-Quit5621

This is why I Uninstaller binance and no longer buy crypto through them. They can't be trusted. I however never left crypto on any exchange either way. They stopped letting US customers do bank withdraws and instead used a 3rd party moonpay. When I did get my deposit for the crypto I purchased 5DAYS LATER! It was for a price that it had NEVER EVER REACHED inits existence. Some B.S. I sent the crypto to one of my cold wallets complained and told them to go fuck themselves. If you deal with Binance you will be ripped off in some shape or form.

archyteckie08

**60 minutes did a profile on Amazon back in the 90s.** The beginning of the profile featured Jeff Bezos and they made him seem nutty. Just like modern journalist do with "Crypto Bros." Then the journalist asked a business anaylst, around 6:09 mark, >**Journalist:** Is this \[buying Amazon Stock\] investing or gambling? >**Anaylst:** Ahh.., Right now with the frenzy we've had...to me it feels much more like gambling >**Journalist**: Because its crazy! >**Anaylst**: Well..I don't I don't find it rational, to be honest with you. >**Journalist**: It went up almost a 1000% last year. When have you seen anything comparable? >**Anaylist**: Nothing [https://youtu.be/Yv8MrBBuRqI?si=aEd3Y9ea7kMgZhf-&t=349](https://youtu.be/Yv8MrBBuRqI?si=aEd3Y9ea7kMgZhf-&t=349) **Here's a fact: NO ONE HAS EVER 100X ON AN INVESTMENT BASED OFF "FUNDAMENTALS". You can only 100X off of faith in a founder's vision**. The founder's vision is based off faith in an unproven idea. To outsiders, faith looks like gambling, hero worship, or pure insanity. But to the true believer, its the surest thing in the world. **Tom Alberg, one of Amazon's earliest investors, invested in 1995. He did so by faith not fundamentals.** In hindsight, he made the right choice. But in 1995, his investment seemed like a gamble; https://www.geekwire.com/2020/tom-alberg-bet-seattle-amazon-shaping-regions-tech-industry-building-legacy-understated-influence/. This is what true faith looks like in practice. In order to see the real value in Crypto (or any emerging industry), you must have faith in it. If you don't have faith, all Crypto seems like gambling or a scam. **Most Crypto skeptics either invest in the stupidest projects, invest in good projects but sell far too early, or invest in nothing at all and call everything a scam. Since they lack faith, they lack discernment and will never see any gains from Crypto until it is too late.** Their interest in Crypto is superficial, either to "get rich" or to "mock believers". You'll never get 100X gain with such "Weak Hands" mentality. **Fred Wilson, an investor who lost big in the dotcom boom but later invested in Etsy, Twitter, MangoDB,** **and helped led Coinbase's Series A funding in 2013, was quoted** in the book "Boom Bust: A Look At the Economic Bubble" on the Dotcom bust: >**A friend of mine has a great line. He says "Nothing important has ever been built without irrational exuberance." Meaning that you need some of this mania to cause investors to open up their pocketbooks and finance the building of the railroads or the automobile or aerospace industry or whatever.** And in this case, much of the capital invested was lost, but also much of it was invested in a very high [throughput](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throughput) backbone for the Internet, and lots of software that works, and databases and server structure. All that stuff has allowed what we have today, which has changed all our lives... that's what all this speculative mania built. **The payoff in Crypto won't happen for maybe 10 more years. However Crypto Whales have faith to hold out until it pays out.** It helps that DeFi allows Whales to borrow, lend, or gain interest from their holdings. Whatever gain they make from DeFi, they reinvest into the Crypto market. Whales are able to buy Bitcoins, in bear and bull markets, from their DeFi windfalls. **A purely opportunistic way to invest in Crypto is to just track Whale wallets and invest in whatever they invest in.** These Whales get to know the founders of major Crypto projects through their connections. So they've have a better insight of the "fundamentals" of Crypto projects, than some random on Reddit. But then again, a lot of Whales also have a Reddit account. So you can't rule out all Redditors or Twitter users. The co-founders of Coinbase meet each other through Reddit; [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/coinbase-co-founders-launched-when-a-bitcoin-btc-was-worth-6.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/coinbase-co-founders-launched-when-a-bitcoin-btc-was-worth-6.html)

Still_Lobster_8428

It does make sense, you just not thinking ahead far enough.  Governments WILL enact laws around being an EXCHANGE, pretty sure there has already been cases of this for people who operate P2P as a business. Governments have come after them as they are in breech of laws that already exist. They are also required to keep records for KYC and AML.  All Governments will do to crack down on P2P is make it that no matter the value of the transaction, you are required to document everything for KYC/AML.  Failure to do so will result in your bank accounts being restricted, fines and whatever other BS they can come up with.  The reality of that will mean that the only people you are doing P2P with are people that are cash rich, tgat cash ISNT in the banking system and they need to transfer value from 1 country to another....  P2P works right up until Governments decide to come after it.... then it's just the hard-core users left using it that are willing to take the risk to say fuck you to the government!  The fiat on/off ramps have always and will always be the Achilles heel of crypto! The status quo system of banking will always be part of that Achilles heel!  Fiat for all its shortcomings, IS the last vestige of personal sovereignty! You are able to work and be paid in cash and no one would EVER know! You can buy with cash.... and no one would EVER know! It is the LAST of our personal sovereignty!  Along comes crypto and everyone is begging to move to a fully DIGITAL system (something Governments globally have tried to do, so fiat can be done away with, and people pushed back HARD every time it was raised!) But today, people WANT digital, because everything things digital is going to = BTC or their favourite coin.... but the reality is, Governments are going to introduce CBDC's and mark my words, they will make laws to ENSURE every single trade/transaction touches their CBDC so as to record EVERYTHING! You want to sell BTC and buy ETH.... BTC > CBDC > ETH.... and all of it logged and tracked to your digital ID!  Fiat will be phased out and we will all be 100% tracked and controlled on CBDC's!  The further we get along this path, the more I'm convinced that Satoshi Nakamoto = CIA,  and BTC is the greatest Trojan horse ever created!  Still bullish on BTC though.... shits going to moon on the way to creating dystopia!  Just be aware what's being taken from us in the exchange! 

moemonies1

Trump is the worse business man EVER! Idk how people say hes a success? I mean he only lost his real estate empire that his father built, 4-5x times. Trumps dad had to bail trump out numerous times because of horrible real estate investments. Majority of the buildings in NYC that bear trumps name, is all it is. Trumps name. Does not own all those buildings. And i mean lmao he bankrupted a casino!!!! Taj casino in new jersey?? How do you loose a casino business??? The media is what has kept trump alive. Otherwise he would be here in LA, homeless on skid row. The facts are right there. Every business trump touched, he destroyed and lost all the money. The media and trumps shady business dealings and generational wealth is what trump has earned.

NeckCrafty5641

But are you a whole coiner? And will you EVER sell?

IcArUs362

Yes both candidates are less than good, but one candidate is absolute trash. One obeys the laws and tries to do what's best in a bad situation (for most things anyway). Meanwhile the other lies, cheats, steals, and then acts like your best friend while talking shit about you behind your back. One pays his bills, the other doesn't. One lies with every gd sentence that comes out of his mouth. One is fake in EVERY. SENSE. OF. THE. WORD. Idk where yall get off with making it out like both sides are equally terrible. Are both sides ultimately controlled by the almighty dollar - YES. But is one side doing thing that AT LEAST keeps some level of freedoms available in the country & doesn't intentionally lie, cheat, steal, and backstab EVERY PERSON HES EVER MET. Fuck outta here with "both options for president are the same". No. No tf they're not.

Still_Lobster_8428

So, who you voting for.... Trump, the neocons and that clusterfuck..... Or Biden, the neocons and WWIII?  FFS, it's not even a choice anymore, we are fucked EITHER way the vote goes!  It's no longer about what's best for the country, people vote purely along lines of perception that they might be fucked less by choosing the party they identify with... but they STILL fuck you!  And you honestly think that's a choice?  The entire system is captured, doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different outcome every 4yrs is the height of stupidity!  No real change will EVER come voting for either major party, they are caputured and 2 sides of the same coin! The window dressing changes depending which 1 is in power, but the same core line continues to be moved along regardless who has power. 

Tropic_Tsunder

i mean, EVERYTHING EVER has its value intrinsically capped. bitcoin cant be worth more than all the wealth in the world. even if every bit of wealth on the planet converted to bitcoin, it would only be worth the total value of the world, not more than it

tenuousemphasis

No, that's absolutely wrong. You should never, EVER try to invent an exception algorithm yourself, it will be flawed. Use known algorithms and open source tools only.

UserNameless710

And you have specific examples of this censorship? Do you even know what information is necessary to benefit your own existence? You do realize that you have access- relatively easily- to any and all things posted on the internet? If you choose to subscribe to mainstream media you need to be aware of their bias and tendency to lean to a single side. This isn't a conspiracy. It's human nature. Us vs. them. An inevitability. It's more profitable to be a single side and cater to that side specifically... It, again is up to YOU to choose what you uptake as information... And is all that info truly relevant to your existence and community in a tactile sense? This is important... And why would it EVER be a profitable decision for a private media company to censor important information? Once truth gets out they would essentially lose all credibility at a degree that could mean their demise. Some things can't just "go away". Take FOX news' recent cancelling of hosts due to the allegations made against them... Now Russia and other types of countries - I don't doubt has lots of those issues within them.. I agree there is a dissolution of information but that doesn't mean that information is inaccessible. There are more opportunities than one could ever have imagined possible available in your hands than there were when Sagan claimed this statement

GMVRIN

Never send your seed out to anyone…. EVER!! Gold and silver are soft metals, you can easily do this yourself safely. Get your self a letter stamp punch set and a small hammer from Amazon and do this yourself.

isu_asenjo

Nobody has EVER told him "gold has been valuable for 5000 years so it being used in iPhones is not relevant" that's why he keeps using that "used in electronics" argumen.

NotJimCarry

Number sometimes go down mean can’t be number always go up technology! Me know because me zoomed in on one week chart! No look at 200 week moving average. No care that 200 week moving average never went downward EVER! Is scam but I is smart enough to no. /s

Haunting-Student-756

NEVER EVER

Halo22B

Your not getting it....the KYC links you to an "amount" of Bitcoin not to a specific UTXO. Instead of BTC let's use Tesla shares for this example. You buy 6 Tesla shares from an exchange (your KYCed) It doesn't matter if you store those shares in a coffee can or a hole in the ground or burn them if you EVER sell any Tesla shares on a KYC exchange .gov will know about it and expect their tax cut. If .gov passes a 6102 for Tesla shares they already know you bought 6 and since you didn't sell you must still have them.....UNLESS you have very plausible story about your gambling addiction that you hide from your wife and lost all your Tesla shares betting on crab racing....get it?

Defusion55

If you can't see the rock solid resistance at 60k I don't know what to tell you, this is the 2nd time it hit 60k and got rejected. It won't EVER give out we aint ever going over 60k resistance is too solid. sound like someone you know? Do you know get how resistance levels work? figure it out yet??

Greedy-End1565

I always average down bitcoin 7500 using 20 different AI models. I bought at 61k only 50$ worth. When it gets to 53500 I'll buy more add 10% to 7500 and wait target down again. Do not "all in" on crypto EVER, especially not 52 week high.

StianHvalborg

Why the fakk do you think I will ever sell my BTC for worthless fiat currency? Fiat currency has zero value. ZERO. What part of “I’m NEVER selling my BTC for worthless fiat EVER” do you not understand? I’ll repeat again. Your USD has a NEGATIVE value at this point. You’re at 300+ trillion dept. and your GDP is barely 30 trillion. You’re bankrupt kid. BANKRUPT. You just don’t know it yet. 1 BTC will always be 1 BTC, because the total circulating is 21 million BTC and will never go past 21 million BTC. Your worthless fiat dollar on the other hand has a INFINITE inflation and it’s gonna inflate into oblivion. Period.

SpinelessFork27

My angle is simply historic happenings through various market cycles. Re assurance at this stage seems crazy to me. What is there to re assure? That btc isn't going to have a somewhat similiar bull run to ***EVERY SINGLE ONE IT HAS EVER HAD EVER?????*** Short to short-medium term I don't care what happens. Like I said come back in 12-18 months time and I would like to hope that the price will have gone up from where we are now. Or maybe this is the first ever prophesied *different cycle.* As far as not seeing the panicking posts, nearly every comment in this thread and the r/CryptoCurrency daily thread has been complete and utter fear mongering that btc is done for, for about 2 weeks now I'd say. Maybe I'm wrong and the bull run is over and this is a different cycle and if so then there will be re assurance posts from me delaying the inevitable but I don't know how at this point in the market cycle people can claim btc is done for.

kinkpositive1

Relax people….. this is HIGHLY unlikely to EVER happen. Remember how efficient US congress is at passing laws ??? Good grief talk about panic.

EnigmaticMJ

I like XLM, but I'd strongly argue that Nano is better "in spirit and practice". Instant full settlement, faster than any other. Zero fees ever, so literally no one is ever excluded from participation. Fees on networks like XLM are small for now, but should be expected to increase dramatically with increased demand. Quality of service (priority) based on activity rather than who can pay the most in fees. ZERO supply inflation, meaning no holder will EVER be debased by the introduction of new supply. Properly incentivized decentralization. The lack of monetary rewards (inflation & fees) for service providers means there's no incentive to centralize, and they are actually incentivized to decentralize to improve network health.

EmpiricalRutabaga

DON'T EVER USE BLOCKCHAIN.COM They routinely and randomly steal funds from people. Use Electrum. It's not that fucking hard.

hewhoislouis

HARDEST ASSET CLASS TO EVER EXIST, FULLY PROOFED, and REQUIRES public participance as part of its mechanism. EVER. Fueled by KWHs used, past and present, hardware, time, speculation, losses, wins, 24/7/365, intrinsic and extrinsic values, ALWAYS DELIVERABLE People that don't like crypto are flame retardant as well. It's not about 'Liking,' crypto. They're literal superior stock tickers with explicitly programmed contract conditions readable by all to see just what the hell this thing does and could ever do as functions. You also get to see the public ledger, with all its useful information, including fuckery going on with suspicious transactions and pre-allocations that can be used to determine whether or not you should have a fucking thing to do with it. 24/7 trading between you, the world and as decentralized or centralized as your risk can tolerate. Someone that doesn't like crypto in place of boomer stocks that close to go to bed/get routinely artificially suspended for bullshit reasons and have a number of people that get to hear information before trading/developments happen to not only buy/sell their positions, but PRIME them with collateral on top of that, is the worst of all worlds. I would have to be generationally retarded to waste all this time and coming up with I DUHN LAIKE STOKSZ :O(. They're floppy disks compared to SSDS. Why the fuck would I rely and engage with floppy disks in the last 20 years, let alone pretend I'm not assmad about everyone using CDS and USBS over my shitty 'preference,' today? Fuck 'em and their backwards incompatibility.

LadyBird1281

Saylor says everyone gets Bitcoin at the price they deserve. It's still cheap even in the $60k range. Check out commentary on the wallets buying the most BTC. The mega rich already own 1 in 4 BTC that will EVER exist. I'm buying every chance I get.

_trevor_

The proper response is to shut the fuck up AKA "I don't answer questions". You have NO obligation to EVER talk to law enforcement. If they had you, they wouldn't need to ask you anything - that's why they're asking. Something like >90% of convictions occur because some dumbass talked to law enforcement.

grndslm

Unless you use coin control, every Tx from a wallet will pull from \*all\* UTXOs.... so you're still revealing all your funds which is the issue, no? This is why UTXO management is so important. If you have $1,000 in one wallet spread across 10 equal UTXOs, but fees are $90 at the time.... you really only have $100 total to spend out of that $1,000. If you DO use coin control, you are supposedly less secure for reasons I probably don't fully understand. But I do know that if you have EVER signed a Tx from your cold wallet, it could potentially be vulnerable when quantum computers step their game up in the future. So to be future proof... your cold wallet should NEVER be spent from..

TeaBreaksAnonymous

Bro, what? Are you using some random credit card that doesn't exist for others? - crypto fees are generally higher than credit card fees - transactions are nearly immediate. What the hell do you mean takes days to process? If you go into a store and pay with card, you get to walk out with it in seconds. No waiting around for it to process and confirm. - if there's an issue in crypto you won't see your money EVER! and people will just say "lol git gud" Cheers for your critical thinking 🤙

Zealousideal-Fan-698

Ok guys listen, I’ve thought about this for a whole 5min and I’m pretty excited about it. We as a subreddit write a btc bible, each person writes a paragraph then passes it on. Satoshi is actually a god alien from another solar system. We declare bitcoin a religion with tax exempt status and freedom of religion protections. EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER WILL SAVE AND USE BTC, BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE ONLY TAX EXEMPT FINANCIAL VEHICLE EVER Seriously think about this. Do we have a lawyer on this sub?

Frogeyedpeas

Everything you said is correct. The only issue I have is the "vibe" of your sentence "Basically if you just use an address to accumulate bitcoin, it’s not vulnerable to quantum computers, until you send bitcoins from it.". Sure, you can't rob the address UNTIL you send bitcoins from it. But if you DID NOT move those coins to a quantum secure wallet NOW you cannot EVER send coins from the address without getting robbed. So sending coins to that wallet you own is as good as burning them. I.E. You haven't been robbed yet, but owning an old wallet, unused, in a post quantum world, is the same as owning NOTHING.

Puzzleheaded_Popup

21,000,000 only…EVER vs. ♾️💰🖨️

drhodl

If you EVER have to deposit money to verify ANYTHING, EVER, it is ALWAYS a scam.

BigTimeButNotReally

I'm skeptical about the severity of climate change. No model HAS EVER been accurate. The scientists have been repeatedly caught changing data, and then calling for censorship. The people in control, talk a lot, but their actions speak loudly... They own coastal property and fly on private jets. It's all about control and power. Which leads me right back to supporting bitcoin even more.