FUD

ThreeTonChonker

“Let’s see if we can shake any more cheap coins out of retail with a bunch of FUD articles.”

Romanizer

I think they are still scrambling for FUD to justify their theory, but there is no systemic collapse or liquidity tightening like we have seen before. It's quite the opposite.

rgnet1

>I think comparing the risks of mortgage backed securities to an etf backed by non-rehypothecated bitcoin stored in cold segregated wallets at the best in class custodians in the US  Sure, but it's a lot of hindsight isn't it? MBS was all seen as fine, including by regulatory bodies, until the run started. The auditing for ETFs is not time tested. I'm not trying to create FUD - it's simply for me personally, in my bones, I don't trust any of them. From history we know they will not do right by small time shareholders if loss through negligence or attacks occurs. >Having Bob or Alice store generational wealth on a Trezor or whatever is asinine I think what's asinine is assuming you or I know what's best for uncle and auntie Bob and Alice and whether they can protect a bearer asset. Enforce laws already in place against fraud and theft; harsh penalties and no mercy for those proven guilty of predatory or fraudulent practices, or outright burglary. But don't tell me or anyone else "it's too scary and complex and risky for your pretty little head." And look, I believe in choice. If people believe in bitcoin's increasing value but want exposure to it through ETFs or simpler custodial products, that's great. What irks me is I think the messaging from banks, from government, and then from people who assume the worst intelligence in others, is that they NEED the ETFs. They warn and fearmonger to not even do the research or try to learn or attempt direct peer-to-peer usage, under the guise of for their own protection, but the motive is simply profit and control.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I'm starting to think that whales might have been pulling a fast one on us here, playing hard on the narrative of the cycles, making people believe that nothing but doom is coming. And retail might have played right into their hands. There was a big opportunity between unbalanced longs, and a situation that made it easy to liquidate them and go on a stop loss hunt, and engineering a big epic panic. Especially right at the time of the new China tariffs and government shut down, giving an excuse to point to. But the government shutdown has ended, and those new tariffs on China got reversed. So suddenly the narrative switched to "it's just the cycle ending" because there's really not much else to point to. QE is starting, global liquidity is rising, rates are getting cut, M2 is going up more sharply, institutions are continuing to jump in, ETFs and sovereign funds are only getting started, even adoption has been rising, and now we even have stimmy checks coming out. That's a lot of potential tailwind for 2026. I don't think the usual China FUD is gonna cut it here. I think they knew what they were doing.

ec265

Liquidity doesn’t magically happen - it is earned And your ETH FUD is stuck in 2017 - modularity allows for infinitely more scalability than monolithic blockchains Solana is *slow*

SUPERVISORACCOUNT

I think comparing the risks of mortgage backed securities to an etf backed by non-rehypothecated bitcoin stored in cold segregated wallets at the best in class custodians in the US (subject to third party audits and public audits financial statements) is an apple to oranges comparison. It's FUD. ETFs are the best way to get exposure to bitcoin for the majority of American investors, that's my opinion. Having Bob or Alice store generational wealth on a Trezor or whatever is asinine. Until the technology is accessible to the layperson (with controls around inheritance, backups, safe keeping, etc), it just doesn't make sense.

hungry-bubba

FUD - its actually short term holders that are capitulating. Dont listen to this shit.

Spaceseeds

Sigh, okay resditor for 3 days, you know what else is getting out of hand? 3 day accounts posting FUD and brigading every crypto sub. Go back to buttcoin where you all have no money

ThreeTonChonker

You can always tell when the FUD campaign is ramping up in the crypto subs. Dip? End of the world, sell your coins for cheap to the market makers.

Ok-Appointment4871

Hey brother, Just wanted to share my current DCA strategy and get some perspectives. • I’m buying ETH and Solana every day • €15/day into ETH • €2/day into SOL So far, I’ve invested: • ~€1,300 in ETH • ~€450 in SOL This is a long-term plan for me (not trading), and I’m focusing on consistency rather than timing the market. I like ETH for its ecosystem and decentralization, and SOL for its speed and growing adoption—fully aware of the risks on both sides. Not looking for hype or FUD, just curious: • Anyone else doing daily DCA instead of weekly/monthly? • Thoughts on the ETH vs SOL allocation? • Any lessons learned from long-term DCA in crypto? Appreciate constructive feedback 🙏

Longjumping_Gas7964

its not FUD boss. Charts are literally saying bearish. I will change my bias when the charts says so.

Special_Ordinary1951

I love the FUD…the patience in this group is nowhere to be found. People have been overly bearish into bitcoins weekly cycle low this entire cycle and it’s had a 79% return on average from the low EVERY single time 😂. Alts are ugly at the moment, but you also have to be okay with a 50% drawdown if you want to own an asset that can do 50% in a day. You can’t spell crypto without cry. As for the AI bubble, it’s all narrative. The stock market/crypto will be making new ath’s in a few months and this entire thread will be hilarious to look back at.

These-Brick-7792

Nice. Is this this cycles FUD / black swan narrative finally killing bitcoin for real this time?

MaximumStudent1839

Arthur Hayes is a professional rugger. Tom Lee and Raoul Paul aren't VCs - don't know what you are talking about. But the two are close to permabulls. In large part because they focus only on "long-term" narratives and miss short-term volatility. For example, Tom Lee is wrong about the stock market in the short term more often than otherwise. But he has a pretty decent hit rate in the long-term horizon. > Do you believe we will go much higher eventually or more downside and boring times ahead ? From the technicals, you can see that much of the selling is more panic-driven than a sophisticated exit. For example, constant hugging around the lower band with little relief is not an orderly exit. Early 2022 shows what an institutional exit looks like. You get bounces to attract sideline liquidity for institutions to exit at better prices. If you look at Coinglass, you can tell the short levels are overly aggressive at this point. And people are panicking into capitulation. Unfortunately, alts are held by the least sophisticated and panic-driven buyers, and short sellers are aggressively pushing FUD in this low-volume moment.

asseousform

My only true concern about bitcoin is the quantum threat, but even that I think is overblown. Every other FUD rhetoric is pretty much just people not understanding how bitcoin works. I think if bitcoin can quantum proof it is truly going up forever, or as long as the internet exists.

GroundbreakingPage41

Ah more Solana FUD, weird how we don’t get these kind of posts when Ethereum’s volume drops

Radiant_Mushroom_215

So they created a digital coin, with zero marketing, just a whole bunch of FUD for years, knowing it’d get to the current value less than 2 decades later? Ok bro. lol.

ReliantToker

ATM has a very minimal affect on price action. The algorithm they use is programmed this way. A perfect example would be shortly after the mnav guidance announcement. ATM stopped stock still dropped. This stock has absolutely ripped to the upside the last 5 years. You have to understand that even at these prices some are still up around 7x on initial investment. Then you have short sellers piling on due to sentiment. Banks spreading FUD because the MSTR model is disruptive to theirs. Alot of forces are working at the same time here. In the end it doesn't matter because bitcoin will do what bitcoin does and MSTR will keep stacking and become one of the most valuable companies in the world.

Miralunes

FUD. You spam that below every single comments, can mods do something?

pointy-boi

Ai created FUD

Hankarino

AI new link. FUD.

ThreeTonChonker

Holy shit there is so much FUD in this thread. All of you buttcoiners need to fuck off.

wetokebitcoins

dashing through the FUD, in a one horse open position, over the hills we crash, laughing all the way HA HA HA!

4BRUINZ

I'm fairly new myself in the grand scheme of things (2024), but based on that abbreviated history, my observation is -- and you can take this to the bank -- nearly everything anyone says about where BTC is going, where BTC should be, where it already should be, where it really is if everyone knew what they know, what some BTC price movement or BTC-related event means will happen next ... it's all 99.9999% complete B.S. Literally anyone could go on youtube or reddit and say a bunch of random words that are strung together to sound like sentences, and they'd be as correct as folks who purport to know what they are talking about. It's like stock market prognostication but 100x worse. Some of 2025's greatest hits: $500k by end of year, er, $250k by end of year, er $150k by end of year, er... the reason it's not the real price is because everyone is buying OTC ... er, it's all price manipulation and FUD to make you sell so they can buy.... er... It's all junk content for clicks. With all of that said, I haven't sold anything. I keep buying at every price.

richardto4321

The advantage is that I already have it. It's something that I have saved up in, preserved my purchasing power in and now I'm ready to spend it. It's not that complicated man. You're just grasping at straws to validate your argument and trying hard to deny that other people do use it - even if you don't. You're free to never find it useful but no need to spread lies and FUD. If it was truly useless, then you wouldn't even be here arguing about it 😝

TherealCarbunc

if its shorts, they'll keep doing it so long as they can cover in profits. I think it's a combination of shorting and fear. the BOJ narrative has been spreading a lot of FUD and then people calling it the end of the bull cycle. So Selling pressure re-affirms these fears and causes more selling which hits stop losses and margin calls.

hank1321

quantum computers are real threat to crypto. they are threat to any system that uses public key cryptography. that is a fact and not some FUD gimmick. the good thing is that we have the tools to upgrade blockchains to be quantum-proof. there are already many quantum-resistant algorithms. and there are already proposals to do this, e.g., BIP360 for bitcoin. but it takes time to achieve consensus, make the technical upgrade, and move all coins to quantum-proof addresses. there is a reason why all the other industries (tech, banking, military, telcom, etc) are working on post-quantum cryptography, for example: * **Cloudflare** uses hybrid post-quantum key exchange by default across its network, which handles \~20% of all websites. In October 2025 they announced a huge milestone: the majority of human-initiated traffic with Cloudflare is using post-quantum encryption. (Source: [Cloudflare](https://blog.cloudflare.com/pq-2025/)) * **Apple** added post-quantum encryption to iMessage in 2024. (Source: [Apple](https://security.apple.com/blog/imessage-pq3/)) * **Google** has added PQC to Chrome and Android. (Source: [Google](https://security.googleblog.com/2024/08/post-quantum-cryptography-standards.html)) * **Microsoft** has integrated PQC into Windows, Azure, and Microsoft 365. (Source: [Microsoft](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2025/08/20/quantum-safe-security-progress-towards-next-generation-cryptography/)) * **IBM** is testing quantum-safe tools for mobile networks. (Source: [IBM](https://www.ibm.com/quantum/quantum-safe)) * **Amazon Web Services (AWS)** offers PQC options for cloud data protection. (Source: [Amazon](https://aws.amazon.com/security/post-quantum-cryptography/)) * **Intel** added PQC support to its software tools in 2025, enabling quantum-safe encryption for cloud applications. (Source: [Intel](https://builders.intel.com/solutionslibrary/accelerate-post-quantum-cryptography-with-intel-crypto-technologies)) It's a technical problem that we can solve if we want to. but if we do not solve it, it's going to be bad times when Q-day comes. When it comes, no one knows. it can be 5, 10, or 25 years from now, but it is pretty certain that it will come.

NativeSkill

This is stupid people falling for FUD and selling them their bitcoin at a loss.

jawni

>Polkadot has the most active developer community right behind Solana. Yes, it's user base is very low, but they've been building infrastructure. And it's been like this how many years? Solana's development led to usage, almost instantly. I think this is very much apples to oranges. >There's a lot of FUD around this project, there was also a ton of FUD around Solana when it was trading at $4. At $4, Solana was still relatively unknown. It didn't face major FUD until the bear market/FTX crash and outages happened. And neither of those things had any lasting negative effects beyond reputation. Again, I think this is apples to oranges.

user_name_checks_out

I have had the impression recently that there is an uptick in FUD. People (or bots) are taking talking points that would fit perfectly on r-slash-buttcoin and posting them here instead. It feels like we are being astroturfed.

cassiuskk

Shut the FUD up

oak1337

They are all implemented in the code. Cut the strawman arguments and useless FUD.

ikikjk

Its fking hard to sell buuut not many people see it the other way, that you are also taking a huge gamble by not selling, selling some while you are on the green reduces risk. It doesnt help if they trade emotionally, luckly for me last bear mauled all my FOMO and FUD away from my system.

NewAgeBroker

19,4M$ is a nothingburger FUD

RealPrinceZuko

Smart money is buying here. I got back in after the 2.1 billion hard cap vote. I've been in and out of this project over the years but couldn't sleep at night with the infinite inflation (that's changed now). Polkadot has the most active developer community right behind Solana. Yes, it's user base is very low, but they've been building infrastructure. They are now shifting to products and have a hard coin cap. They've done the hard work of laying out a solid infrastructure (something big funds very much care about). There's a lot of FUD around this project, there was also a ton of FUD around Solana when it was trading at $4. I'm taking my chances and buying heavily into these drops at these levels.

kobriks

Solana FUD is back? Time to buy!

Outrageous-Leopard23

Bitcoin is one way to make push transactions on a deflationary digital asset. This was a utility that did not exist before BTC. So, that is an improvement. BTC will be two decades old soon, and it still works. That is impressive. How many posts have you jumped on with FUD today?

GuidedVessel

Short sellers love to blast FUD all over comment sections and publish FUD articles.

MaximumStudent1839

I generally find the space bragging about “growing developer size” and “more teams coming into this space” as more bearish than bullish. There is an over infuriation about “funding builders”. And the space also has an unhealthy obsession of favoring scheme supporting unchecked slush fund for “devs”. The most recent example is how everyone shit talks Monero in favor of Zcash. If you read into why some favor this shit talking, it boils down to Zcash has a “treasury fund for devs” and Monero is too decentralized to do such a thing. Years and years of crypto experience has usually shown growing a “big foundation for devs” is usually bearish for both ecosystem and token. The reality is, a lot of development is just dev building things they like but have rarely ever checked if there is real product market fit. They take money from community. They don’t grow the market. Then they blame everyone in the space as nihilists/degen/casino addicts yada yada yada. Too many have such an ego they refused to be humbled despite the evidence of the contrary. Here is a good example. A lot of Cosmos App chain devs blamed everyone in the ecosystem for a lack of users, financial support from the Hub foundation, etc. They throw a tantrum and go FUD Cosmos as a failing ecosystem for weird reasons. Yes yes yes, Cosmos does have legit problems - I have written extensively about it - but the ones these dev raise are extremely odd. So they all migrate their token and “community” to Solana or Base. In turns, their project just does equally shit…. Surprise surprise…. The problem is, 99% of crypto devs are just tools to facilitate liquidity transfer among the existing participants. They don’t create new interest to draw in new participant or liquidity. But they get paid lucratively via token or VC funding. So you end up adding more selling pressure into the ecosystem without any new buying pressure coming in. Crypto AI is probably one of the biggest. Lots of Cosmos devs and bozos went to scam on Solana and Base. And their project went to shit anyway lol.

Background_Home7092

True, true. My thinking is if the retail FUD is LOUD (and it definitely has been), that'll generally attract the mid-level whales (not necessarily the BlackRocks of the world though), who'll watch the pattern and wait for the right moment. For example, on Nov 15 the selling pressure was enormous, so it'd be easy to assume that "saavy" (air quotes) retail traders were *leverage shorting* the drop...so if I were said 'whales', I'd wait for selling pressure to ease off slightly then place a huge buy, thus wiping the shorts out and picking up a ton of spot at a discount. Would I consider that manipulation? Not at all, nor do I really consider what that video above describes as manipulation. It's more just basic market psychology: leave emotion at the door, watch where the FUD is taking the weaker hands, lead them into the trap, then liquidate. Rinse and repeat.

matrix-free33

Serious question… With more and more powerful entities including financial institutions and governments buying and mining bitcoin, what happens if they coordinate and just lock it away forever so they can continue to control the dollar or their own CBDC ? Not FUD just a thought that I have and am not smart enough to answer myself

Background_Home7092

I appreciate this, and you're absolutely right. Honestly I just thought it was a really good explanation of how basis trading on the part of makers has been luring retail paper hands into folding out of FUD; this correction always felt like a bear trap to me and if confirmation bias didn't feel good, well, it wouldn't be confirmation bias then, now would it? 😁 100% with you on ignoring the noise, and continuing to hold as usual. 👍

DRAGULA85

Ignore anyone here who pretends to think they have a clue of where this thing goes. You have your Bitcoin position. Guaranteed. You didn’t miss out any huge pumps by being too slow with DCA. It always fills soon as you buy. Ignore the FUD and the charlatans. Hold for 4 years at least. See you at the top

hank194

When I'm in a FUD competition and my opponent is a r/cc user.

Ir0nman123

One last FUD post? This is bullish.

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

AcostaJA

FUD anyone? Fed rates cut on the next door

GroundbreakingPage41

Ah Solana FUD, weird how there’s never many upvotes on Solana shill posts

Internet_is_tough

TLDR: This is a FUD low quality article with zero references and missleading information

Romanizer

What FUD? Haven't heard good panic fodder for years now, resistance against Bitcoin is pretty much dead. There is no reason not to be chill right now. Unless you have a lot of excess fiat.

Full_Muffin7930

FET - ignore the Ocean smoke screen,  ASI is showing they're able to get access to high performance GPUs, and the project has some serious funding, infrastructure, and brains behind it. They're going for a vertically integrated decentralized Ai stack and I don't see anything else out there like it.  If you REALLY want some risk/reward for maximum leverage, TRNR. They're positioning as a FET treasury and there's a lot of FUD around it. I'm pretty confident they've still got roughly 40M FET tokens, but the trick is to enter in small chunks or try to time your entry (good luck) because they've been shorting and diluting the pants off it.  But do the math, $5M market cap holding 40M of a token that's like 10 to 15x below it's ATH. It's like they're building the bones of a manufactured meme stock.  The investors behind this have some serious money, coupled with ASIs ability to acquire Big Boy Nvidia GPUs, the ability to buy compute on those GPUs with the tokens, and their professional grade development base and infrastructure, I think it is one of the best deep value plays out there.  Of course, you have to ask why it's "undervalued" because there's no free lunch. The best answer I have for why it's so cheap is that the Ocean dispute is manufactured drama to keep the price low for accumulation. It just doesn't make sense to me that a project being taken this seriously would have such a public bitch fit while they continue to build the rails and secure contracts (one of them being with Telegram for fucks sake lmao) 

ReliantToker

👆🏼 FUD parrot flapping around squawking things he heard.

Steezy_Steve1990

Bro, I’ve been in this market for 8 years. Keep showing how much of fresh meat you are in crypto. If this FUD actually works on you then you don’t have the balls to be in this market and are just going to invest with your emotions and lose all your money. I’ve been investing in crypto since 2017 and have never not made profit.

Steezy_Steve1990

You realize that they have enough assets to last 10 years even if BTC was 20k the whole time? You all talk like you know anything but you don’t even know what reserves Strategy has. This is just FUD like how Tether has been supposedly going bankrupt for the past 8 years.

Starwaverraver

What is this FUD nonsense And why is it the highest voted in a crypto sub!??

VariatCA

They all have their own reasons for still showing up every day here. - Some have just hated BTC/Crypto for years, and while watching it climb 10-100x over the past decade, these downturns are their only source of joy and hope. - Some here sold already, and are now mentally/emotionally invested in not being "wrong" about it. - Some gamblers have an active financial interest in the price going down, so showing up here to spread FUD and doomposting turns into their little side-gig. - Some are just destitute and full of regret for not taking any profits/doubling-down on dead alts/other poor financial decisions, and just use these dailies as a crying pillow.

Illustrious_Lie_954

Governments can definitely hurt Bitcoin in the short term with bans, taxes, or scary headlines we’ve seen that with China, India FUD, and even the U.S. at times.But making it go to basically zero just by condemning it isn’t really how it works anymore. It’s global, decentralized trades 24/7 and has millions of holders across dozens of countries. One government can crash the price temporarily, but killing the network itself is a whole different story.

Steezy_Steve1990

Strategy will be fine. Bears just love FUD.

Steezy_Steve1990

BTC would have to hit about 20k and stay there for years for that to happen. It’s just FUD. Just like how Teather has been supposedly about to blowup for the past 8 years.

jeffereeee

This, held since 2014, I don’t know how I’ve done it to be honest. It either allowed me to retire at 60 or I carry on working, no compromise no listening to the FUD, the hate, the banks, the governments. I retired this year.

sker13559

A millionaire with zero reading comprehension and an inferiority complex. OK you win the internet with your 3mil paid off house lol. Projection and insecurity. Strawman arguments all of them. We were talking about MSTR FUD remember. Nice edit on your previous post. Grok do that for you? Crypto cowboy huh...so spicy! There are so many strawman arguments in your feeble minded rants. Firstly, I never said anything about MSTR being the only vehicle to financial freedom. I am one of many in my circle that bought MSTR early. Its not that special actually. Good luck and future success.

VariatCA

Anything even remotely technical, metric-driven, constructive or even *optimistic* gets downvoted or buried by endless and incessant bears / buttcoiners / bots in here these days. Meanwhile, most people who would be on the other side of the fence have either capitulated to the FUD or left for another sub where they can actually discuss things. In a sub that still tries to attract advertisers, it's amazing that Mods allow people to flood this space with negativity & FUD day after day.

sker13559

What a strawman. I was specifically talking to the people who are actively FUDing MSTR. The ponzi and pyramid scheme references. And specifically why would you buy? Answer, because every share holder accumulates more of the underlying asset. My initial buy of MSTR was at less than $20. I cashed out the majority over $400. There will be more cycles. This just sounds like the same old BTC FUD we have been hearing forever. You went on a wild tangent there. BTC, FBTC, and MSTR combined is less than 20% of net worth including real estate. You made a lot of assumptions. Look beyond what exactly? Whats are your allocations? Teach me something.

shimanospd

Yeah, I do wonder why, why every time someone points out that gold, real estate, foreign stocks, or literally any other inflation hedge exists, the MSTR maxi cult screams “FUD!!!” like you just mentioning other assets is a personal attack. It's not. I own bitcoin myself. Bitcoin is 16 years old. Gold has been a store of value for 5,000 years. Real estate has worked forever. Swiss francs, Japanese stocks, commodity funds all of them have protected wealth from dying fiat currencies without a single sat involved. Asking “why not just buy the BTC directly or an ETF instead of this convertible-debt circus?” isn’t “believing the strength of fiat” or cheerleading fiat, it’s literally the most basic due diligence question ever. Pretending that question = blindness is peak cult energy. Look beyond, or don't. Whatever. I'll keep taking a multi prong approach to protecting myself from fiat debasement. Thank you.

sker13559

I assume that people will figure it out. Do you know the answer to "why someone would buy MSTR instead of raw BTC or an ETF? There are entire threads repeating a negative narratives on every platform simultaneously. Do you wonder why? Every share holder that has held for any reasonable amount of time owns more BTC or Satoshis per share today. More BTC for the initial investment. That is called leverage. So yes people who dont understand need to stop spreading FUD they heard, and instead do some research for themselves. There is room to own all three. BTC, ETF, and MSTR. All for different reasons.

EggMedical3514

The end of bitcoin again? Sigh. Worst. FUD. Ever.

Putrid_Pollution3455

Thank you 🫡 so much FUD lately, I like to remind myself all the reasons and arguments supporting my thesis. The world needs sound money which Bitcoin solves

EggMedical3514

Funny vid but the meme is buttcoiner FUD.

cantreadcantspell

this industry is just remarkable for the endless stream of FUD it generates.

BodyArmorOn

Don’t be fooled by the FUD don’t be tricked by ones that hold the most money. They know what’s happening

BodyArmorOn

Don’t be fooled by the FUD don’t be tricked by ones that hold the most money. They know what’s happening

Aggressive_Spell2314

Things were very different back in 2017. Don’t feel bad for selling. I‘ve been on this bitcoin journey since late 2022, so not that long. But even just a few years ago, there was so much FUD - Gary Gensler FUD, Operation Choke Point 2.0... etc. Jamie Dimon was trash talking Bitcon and now we see JP Morgan accepting BTC as collateral. How absurd. Keep stacking and Hodling!

binary_quasar

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how their business structure, debt, and financial obligations function. They would just take on more collateralized debt against their bitcoin holdings. This is what the wealthy and institutions do. There are plenty of banks who would be happy to give them loans and they have their own way to create and sell collateralized debt via their reserve notes. Those notes cannot be sold until 2029 at the earliest. Unless bitcoin sat for the next 3 years below their average price (~$74,000), it is extremely unlikely they have to sell any of their bitcoin holdings until the reserve notes can be redeemed. They also plan to sell more reserve notes that are leveraged versions of what they already have and expire later/earlier in 2026. They have tons of ways to create capital and they are a publicly traded company, but nobody wants to take a bit to actually find that info. They'd rather just spread FUD and sound regarded.

binary_quasar

How are *we* going to need it? Did anyone here claim to have a stake is MSTR besides just owning bitcoin? If you're talking about the risk of bitcoin dropping in price because your MSTR FUD fantasy comes true, then most long-term holders probably wouldn't lose their conviction on the future success of the asset. In fact., a lot of the people that have been in the space for years would be happy or relieved that MSTR failed because they don't like the idea of Wall Street types having that much of a stake in the game.

binary_quasar

Well, they can't give you all those details because then it wouldn't fit their FUD narrative of Strategy selling bitcoin.

Robotoverlordv1

Japan has already said they're gonna print. China has already said they're gonna print. Trump has already said he's going to print. The clarity act is coming. This is literally the most bullish macro landscape in the history of BTC. If you're buying the FUD rn have fun being poor.

Archer_solace

The FUD is on steroids lately.

Known_Click

Idk if people have amnesia or if this FUD it’s going from new investors who doesn’t know that Strategy was already underwater on 2022 in their BTC and they didn’t sold a single thing.

BitcoinEnojyer

It's often used to drive the price down, when Google Willow came out a lot of casual retailers flocked crypto subs and kept asking if Bitcoin is doomed, it's s bigger challenge than Y2K but since the solutions are there it's not a huge concern, if Bitcoin even crashes seriously to the quantum FUD it will be the easiest bet for a rebound.

BitcoinEnojyer

I'm fed up with quantum FUD, I hope they'll upgrade the chains soon since it's not a big issue just like with traditional tech, it's just new Y2K, it will be costly but not a doomsday.

Ir0nman123

Pointless FUD.

popoppopcorn

If having 89k(current 1 btc price) you can put into anything is an achievement, then having 1 btc is an achievement. I'd bet on BTC being a no-brainer move in 10 years after the fact. Just like it is now. The train isn't stopping and every time there's stalling and dumps in the road the FUD spreaders come out like their life depends on it. Banks are literally giving the OK to normies that BTC is an investment option now. Right now you don't know anyone who even looks at BTC because all they read is FUD to confirm their already held beliefs that BTC is a ponzi scheme rug pull. Soon they will be buying, pumping your bags because the banks said so. Even in a scenario where BTC is a ponzi scheme rug pull, there's still many many years of riding that scheme to the upside. You'd be silly to not take advantage.

21Moto

That’s real! Done arguing against the same old refreshed 2010’s FUD. Spend that energy figuring how to stack more sats instead.

partymsl

Bitcoin being called dead 🤝 Tether FUD at local lows

Ir0nman123

FUD

pumse1337

Is it FUD if its real?

Despaciito

Japan FUD again to kickstart the weekend

XysterU

Because they're all just rooting for their own shitcoin to do well. The greed is disgusting lol. This sub isn't about discussing and appreciating the technology that is cryptocurrency. It's just a place for people to spread FUD and shill shit

MapAwareness007

Gotta love FUD bots

AcostaJA

92 it's bears wall, where they just can't exploit FUD to lower bitcoin price

AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us

Have been since 2015/16 ... where I **feel** FUD became coordinated

Objective-Win7524

Hey you are spreading FUD!

PeteyPab305

OK except i bought TQQQ right before the split a couple weeks ago and im not regretting it... so do you big guy.🤷 I understand your point, but it's a valid trade theory, and a validated one. Just because you think it's stupid and just "cosmetic" doesn't mean that that's true. You think if large investment firms "chase" splits, and then the sentiment of retail traders condemns you for doing the exact same thing; might just be some FUD, and just don't understand the benefit behind the "vanity' of it? Because value can't be quantified by metrics thats why "value" and "price point" speculation is even possible. Because value is subjective.

Ill-Sandwich-7703

Keep going. If it’s not super FUD it’s super hopium on here 😂 Enjoy the ride and embrace it because crypto is inherently volatile (and that’s part of its attraction)

BitcoinBaller420

This is absolutely right, there are existential risks to IBIT over self-custody. But that's very different from saying that IBIT isn't owning Bitcoin at all. I understand the slogan, but suggesting that IBIT is merely a "vehicle that generally tracks bitcoin" is not correct. Suggesting that if the economy collapses and Bitcoin does well you'll own nothing is not correct. It's FUD. Self-custody has government seizure risk as well, for anyone who isn't prepared to fight their government when the gov says, hey, we see you moved that bitcoin from Coinbase into this account with XXX public key. Send it to us or you're going to jail. So it's not as clear as y'all make it sound.

aaj094

Here is some anti FUD https://bitwiseinvestments.eu/blog/regular-updates/bitcoin_s_2026_mispricing-12-2025/

Every_Hunt_160

The FUD was so bad last week there was even talk of SaylorMoon potentially selling his Bitcoins

dirtsmurf

Redditor for 1 week Named “BTC” Rehashing decade old FUD

emperordas

Everyone is believing in FUD. Meanwhile the Trump Family is [buying Bitcoin ](https://a2zcryptocurrencies.com/trump-family-crypto-fortune/) like it's the last opportunity

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