FUD

Romanizer

Who cares about who is going to implement their Bitcoin strategy first? The only winning move is to hold on to as much Bitcoin as possible and always has been. If you are able to shake others off through FUD, good for you but regular traders should probably stick to 'buy and hold'.

polishsuszi

Crypto was much better during Biden and all the FUD of Democrats. Much worse during 'the best Crypto president' first two years back in office

TopEmotional6734

Would you really call a huge amount of peoples crypto being hacked when they had it stored in what a layman would think is the safest way FUD?

ComfortableGas5223

You ever notice that right towards the end of a bear cycle, there’s a sudden attack or exchange collapse causing sudden FUD and price drop? Then major governments start buying at the bottom… Maybe all anecdotal but interesting timing nonetheless.

classified_x

so buy it, but don't come around to hold hands. there is no FUD tbh... not until it starts dropping 10% everyday, with some 15-20% spikes... not until much lower

Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck

Quit adding to the FUD

nonkeywayzee

1. Not really open source, just code available 2. They discarded all disclosed [attacks as FUD](https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0psuaeev9f3hqau0sn4kj7n282pd5ayjn2hxhlm3ay427g28e8ygpzfmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82cszyql6ph5spag4lu0j48prj7k7hj396470t8zlud9da3q3gms3aapsvyq08w6) and[ didn't compensate researchers](https://thecharlatan.ch/COLDCARD-Supply-Chain/). They created a situation where nobody had a single incentive to check their code, in an industry where it is pretty much standard practice to get your code reviewed by competitors. So don't blame competitors or researchers, Coldcard created an environment where nobody would want to help them and the little help they got despite such environment [got rejected even when being obviously critical](https://x.com/jamesob/status/2084624605969350915).

Thin_Needleworker795

No it does not. Quantum computers cannot break a properly generated bitcoin seed with good entropy. Please stop spreading all this FUD.

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Tanksgivingmiracle

Facts that you don't like are not FUD. Every time my credit card or bank account was stolen from, I got all my money back. This has happened at least 5 times over the last 30 years.

Todo_es

No, that's FUD and disinformation. A 24 word seed is impossible to hack. Please ask LLM's orcdi a basic research. This is a well known fact. Nobody can brute force 258 bits entropy. The possibilities are higher that the numbe vof atoms in the entire universe.

Jpotter145

No. Ledger doesn't work that way. If it had a "manditory" firmware update it would also have the direct download to install (no link) - but, it doesn't even offer a firmware update unless you go look for one. You can *alway*s use the wallet without updating the firmware. Just trying to make up more FUD huh?

Intrepid_Interest912

Odd that isn’t it it’s almost like everyone’s posting FUD to keep he prices down while the people in the know scoop it all up before the next bull run starts 😜

_GOREHOUND_

1. There’s scam calls/mails/websites on a daily basis. 2. If you’d really want to warn them, you could mention the three suspects and everybody could make their own decision. This isn’t a warning, this is FUD. 3. Knows more about what? Share the suspects and take it from there.

Cryptocaller

Whoa whoa easy with the truth pal. That doesn’t help this guys Ledger FUD narrative or his lack of understanding lol

Todo_es

Good info to stop de mindless FUD from the uninformed masses. This was a Colcard issue, NOT a Bitcoin or safe-custody issue. Trezor and Ledger seed words are impossible to hack since they make sure their TRGN' s are 256 bit entropy, and are thoroughly tested and certified,

Tennisboat

This is what I’m here to see! No more FUD and „lost my stack“ posts by bots.

nonkeywayzee

They should have taken the coda quality and user claims more seriously. On top of they should have persecuted researchers who submitted bug reports and they should have paid them for finding bugs. These are things you MUST do it you are a serious cybersecurity company, even if your code isn't open source (which Coldcard's wasn't it was just code available), Coldcard didn't take it seriously and decided to invest all the investor money in marketing instead of product, be dishonest about their bugs and security and discarded everything as FUD usually shifting attention to competitors. What happened is the consequences of many things, not just AI cracking codes.

MrMpeg

He's talking about the coldcard fiasco. Makes people doubt the whole self custody thing. Never put all egg into the same basket is my take away from this. Nothing fundamental has changed to Bitcoin itself though. When there is FUD it's most often good to accumulate.

FitCompetition1804

It’s not FUD if you generated a seed on a Coldcard MK3 and on. It is if you didn’t, which is the vast majority of folks who may also be panicking because they don’t understand what’s going on.

LanguageStudyBuddy

How is this FUD? Its a fact that these wallets will be drained unless the owners move them to a safer holding method or an exchange

Keefryan

Err. Because the seed generation process is completely different to coldcard. Suggest you dyor before spreading FUD

ConcernSquare2474

I prefer to understand what I’m doing, in particular about my money. No need to do anything. Your FUD is useless in me.

ConcernSquare2474

FUD much?

quintavious_danilo

Let the FUD begin.

Blade_Runner_69

🚨FUD BOT🚨 Post your transaction or this never happened.

Todo_es

Finally! The correct title and content. Just facts: This was ALL on Coldcard (a very small company with a very scammy CEO). No FUD against Bitcoin, self-custody or hard wallets in general.

Eastern-Try-6207

Let's face it; if it's so simple to execute a heist like the one that is allegedly still being perpetrated, then why the fuck has coinkite not conducted the experiment themselves, wiping out every wallet possible and recording the public addresses of each of the holders so that the funds can be returned. Everyone sitting her saying run like your ass is on fire, is not thinking. If this is so easy to hack - Do it and return the funds to their owners. If it's not so easy to perpetrate a crime of this nature then I ask you, who the fuck has the resources to pull something like this off? Who figured this out? Do we really believe this was done by some teenager in his bedroom? And the timing is certainly interesting too. Institutional investors are left with no choice but to enter the bitcoin space and they want total control. This has FUD written all over it. Someone is trying to dishearten the plebs and get them all running to exchanges who will probably subsequently go bankrupt. The message is very clear to the plebeian of the bitcoin space - you are too stupid to self custody your bitcoin, you need the more capable and enlightened ones to do that for you. The whole shitshow is sus.

Tanksgivingmiracle

Tinfoil hats will protect you from opinions you don’t like.   I mean FUD.

SeriousGains

Wait for the FUD articles and Jamie Dimon’s annual “it’s all a hyped up fraud” speech, now pointing to Cold card.

Elusive_BTC

Stupid FUD. Where's the proof?

KryptoKed

This bear market IMO has come with even more FUD than the last bear market / FTX blow up. Bitcoin still sitting at $63k is BULLISH

brassassasin

and what is the term for when ppl start calling FUD at any sensible mention of a threat to crypto?

Significant-Fan-8938

Then if you don’t own a coldcard you should still be bullish. Just because coinkite fucked up doesn’t mean every other company did too. FUD being thrown around like crazy. Use this to upgrade your security, better passphrase, learn about multisig, multiple devices, etc etc.

Kemilio

Of course they call it FUD, they’re terrified of it happening. It’s an emotional response, not a logical one.

NerdFarming

People called fears about quantum computers FUD. This feels like a preview of that.

Todo_es

1. Bear market is a great time to buy 2. Bottom or near bottom is an excellent time to buy 3. FUD times drops are the best times to buy Now we are on all three simultaneously, so ofcourse smart people are buying now. Only the uninformed and manipulable masses are selling.

Ready_Education5326

No it doesnt Theres waves of FUD like this every cycle. Last one it was ledger Now it's cold card. There will be more in the future Notice how this kind of fud always starts cropping up during the cycle low? Dont let them shake you out of your bags

VisiblePlatform6704

No, you don't understand how these things work in real life.  Your comment sounds like the Linux apologists when they said "it's a hardware vendor problem, not Linux problem" when X devices didn't work in Linux:   The fact is, that Linux doesn't work for many people,  it may not be Linux fault, but it's still it's problem. In the case of Bitcoin, sure, if we dive into technicals we can split hairs in much detail. But for the many non-technical people , this just leaves them with FUD about  bitcoin in general.   For those of us with more technical knowledge,  it's easy to point and blame, but it makes me sad that this is just  huge negative press for bitcoin in general. 

proofofderp

The FUD posts are making me bullish if anything. It’s a good wake up call on custody and how vigilant you have to be. Wallet diversification has always been my strategy so this episode in wealth sovereignty (not BTC) backs that thought. For those who have to start over, bear market is as good a time as any. May the sale persist for a while longer.

cliff_smiff

I'm gonna take this chance to say that FUD is a braindead term reflective of a braindead mentality. Fear? Uncertainty? Doubt? Yes these are real factors in life. Dismissing doubt is the absolute height of arrogance.

Shot_Pipe_3798

The FUD is heavy today.

ZTech11223

FUD

OBvanken

Coinbase sit on many peoples cryptos. Check it. It is one of the last exchange I would trust. Somehow their name pops up as “safe” during this FUD. Funny.

supahmcfly

Right on time boys, it's FUD o' clock

ConcernSquare2474

FUD the last days is unreal. Is Bitcoin dead now??? Is self custody dead now??? Same question asked over and over again. Total noobs and Bitcoin haters (you can tell by conclusion they draw) thinking they can push their shit on the back of Coinkite victims. Bottom must be near.

CiaranCarroll

The affected users absolutely did something wrong. What are you talking about? I'm an idiot and I knew that I should use dice and a passphrase. I think we're dealing with a lot of kids who are looking for someone to blame. Maybe the state scared them, and they thought that bitcoin was a more benevolent God that will protect them. But Bitcoin never promised to protect them, it only ever promised that they would have the tools to protect themselves. And it has, Cold Card provided the tools. It had a big, but it made a big song and dance about the fact that software has bugs and you should be adding your own entropy. "But I didn't know!?!" Now you do. Go back to fiat or stay, nobody cares. Cold Card should have made their device less user friendly by forcing dice rolls. I'm getting sick of this shit, I've been trying to create a business for years and nobody gives a shit if I succeed or fail, live or die, but we're supposed to all suddenly wear kid gloves for kids who made a basic fucking user error?!? I came here for a just world built on sovereign individuals. If that is too hard for you go back to the state and maybe you become our biggest enemy, a "former bitcoiner" used by FUD-merchants. Either way, Bitcoin will still be here for you when you get a grip of your senses.

Ar0war

he lies and ther communities wants him ban because all he does is spread FUD: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LEASHarmy/comments/p6kqnn/can\_we\_ban\_urishucrypto\_yet\_all\_he\_does\_is\_fud/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LEASHarmy/comments/p6kqnn/can_we_ban_urishucrypto_yet_all_he_does_is_fud/) With that CC darama there is a lot of people going out their caves to spread FUD. Don´t trust, verify. If the person doesnt upload any proof, then is a lie.

Sammy262

90% of the comments in here show that people don't understand bitcoin and don't understand what actually happened - but they still feel the need to spread FUD or misinformation.

pythosynthesis

Throughout the entire post you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of how any of this works. So much so it makes me think you've never had anything in cold storage, let alone "nearly a decade" - 2017 and holding throughout? Smells of BS. The seed is the only thing that matters. No firmware or software update can change the seed. And the hack now exploits the weakness of the seed, not some botched update to some software that made all h coins disappear. I judge this FUD, 10/10.

Todo_es

> I ain’t reading all that but... That´s the issue, the FUD and misinformation thrive because the ignorant masses panic by NOT KNOWING what really happened and not realizing this has nothing to do with Bitcoin or its code and the issue was just one bad small company with a bad dev who didn´t do any basic check before publishing and implementing the new HW software.

RecoverOld9545

Bro the ETFs are going to be the main way for most people to buy BTC anyway because it's already integrated into tradfi and people don't want to learn how to self custody. Very few people in the world will hold BTC long term in cold wallets, even less now due to the FUD.

Todo_es

Yes, it has taken a hit, no doubt. But not because Bitcoin or self-custody fault rather than FUD spread by comments like yours.

Todo_es

That is disingenuous and pure FUD. We know that Trezor and Ledger have very professional teams and have certifications to prove they test their software before publishing and implementing.

BigDik6355

Impact is probably very limited. Coldcard user base is very small, mostly consists of advanced users who know what they are doing generally so impact is not as big as if it were ledger for example. It might look like a lot of people were hit, but its literally like 0.0000001% at best. Lots of incoming FUD now in the sub trying to talk down the price.

veganbitcoiner420

you could've been me. i thought about the coldcard, but was lazy in migrating over this will be difficult, but you can rebuild from here.. one step at a time.. if you are reading this you are alive... you don't know me but you know I'm out there, I will continue stacking bitcoin FOREVER this realization that they just print money out of thin air and we have to work for it is not going away... although they try to distract us with entertainment, FUD, or whatever... I have had terrible things happen to me in my life, but I am alive, and I will fight on.. you know bitcoiners exist, you know what we're about... whenever you're ready we can keep building. i'm sorry this happened to you.

Ar0war

This is literaly FUD from a guy who told everyone to sell, this is his post 1 month ago: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uefb1u/sell\_now\_before\_its\_too\_late/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uefb1u/sell_now_before_its_too_late/) OP is lying. Stop. There are people actually afected from this bug and you are here talking shit. I don´t trust you, OP.

Heavy-Syrup-6195

Saylor isn’t selling $5b, nor has he announced any plans to sell. MSTR was previously approved to sell UP TO $5B , if needed. Old news rolled into new FUD.

Intrepid-Joel

# Stop the FUD against the dollar, banks and all other financial institutions. This was ALL on the federal reserve.

omni_wisdumb

I'm saying it now, as I said in the first post regarding this incident. I think it's highly likely this was all a pre-planned attack from the inside (perhaps even by founding owners of the company). There is also virtually nothing that can be done now. The company would not be solvent enough to survive any type of attentive judgment collection, they don't have insurance (unlike tori bank account or even if you stored gold in your own house)... And if it was an inside plan from the top, they can just file for bankruptcy and dissolve the company. You say don't FUD on BTC, which I agree overall as someone who had been in the community since around 2011-2012... But this IS the nature of it that people have to be aware of. That being, there are higher risks of losing your asset without a meaningful way to recover them, the crypto aspect if it does add the anonymity issue (on both sides), and the "high tech" aspect if it means your relying on other people competency to protect you. The network also allows mass hacks to happen, which is a quantum risk, people saying bank pins would fail first simply have no idea how banks actually work. These are all risks you should consider if you're putting ALL your life savings into crypto.

JeremyLinForever

It’s okay, let the FUD commence to shake the lettuce hands out. We need people like that to pump the ATH later on when they limp in anyway.

SpanglerBQ

Ledger Recover is an optional service that you have to explicitly opt into. It splits your seed phrase into three fragments that are cryptographically distributed among three separate companies for storage, so no single entity has access to the full backup. Ledger does support 25th word passphrase. If Coldcard had been closed source, this hack wouldn't have happened. Why are you spreading misinformation and FUD?

Orbital_IV

100% dude. This is pure FUD posting designed to get you to sell your fucking bitcoin at the bottom, right before Clarity Act passes. This whole ColdCard hack feels like a well-timed psy-op.

Hunabkuside

This is an endorsement so you do just that - buy ETFs and trust exchanges now. They want you to put your money into them. Because we are bottoming and getting ready for lift off. Bear market FUD - standard operating procedures always happen around bottoms. What max FUD can we do to scare you? The timing of this is not a coincidence.

JEI2E

The fact that this FUD gets upvotes, while a serious person stating simple facts about corrupt banks and the way fiat money works, get downvoted, is telling. This is the absolute bottom of this cycle. It sucks that we've had yet another "FTX moment", but it seems like this is required every 4 years to truly wash out the non-believers and simpletons.

No-Flounder312

If the only source is a random Discord leak, that’s nowhere near enough to make accusations like this. Show evidence, otherwise it’s just FUD….

ClearSnakewood

Do you have the tx’s on chain for proof? I’ve seen FUD-ers popping up.

ClearSnakewood

I just wanted to ask what the tx’s were for proof. Not to sht on people because I know there are real plebs out there affected, but seems many fakers are posting crap and additional FUD too…

proofofderp

Likely FUD with 22 karma account, but for those who were affected, the consolation is starting over in bear market is ideal over bull. Also a reminder of wallet diversification. Vulnerability is inevitable with digital products and assets – don’t put all your eggs in one basket.

seambizzle1

You’re acting like this was a bitcoin problem It wasn’t. At all There’s plenty of ways to securely store your keys. Passcodes for one. Multi sig for another Stop spreading FUD

nonkeywayzee

It was code available, not open source, they also didn't compensated researchers and usually dismissed threats as FUD after they were made public, [proof in TheCharlatan's blog](https://thecharlatan.ch/COLDCARD-Supply-Chain/) go to the "Coldcard's response" section. After this nobody had an incentive to help Coldcard since they didn't want the help, on top of NVK (CEO and spokesperson for the company) being a PoS who blocked all competitors and laughed at users whenever they lost fund using a competing device and every time they had a breach that targetted Coldcards users his first instinct was to say "Hey but look at our competitors, they have had leaks, so you are being targeted because of them, not our fault, and you are an idiot for thinking it was us" instead of taking responsibility for they fuckups, so yeah, competitors also wouldn't contribute to Coldcards, when it is an industry standard to contribute to each other's security because of the aforementioned. I guess this is what the ecosystems deserves for listening to snake oil salesmen who sound like they know what they are taking about to the point that nobody can question their authority instead of listening to people who actually now what they are talking about, are honest and the responsibility for what they do. This is the result of years of narratives and telling people to be focused on the complicated stuff that don't really matter instead of focusing on the basics first.

iwillachievemydreams

Cool FUD bro

timm-e

Let's stop trying to imagine the horrors while spreading FUD and start providing reasonable custody solutions.

Kitchen_Catch3183

I can see it now. The year is 2037, I come to reddit and a user is complaining that his life savings was stolen. The top comment reads: “Enough with the disinformation. OP, this is your fault. You clearly didn’t ensure the chromium content in your steel dice prior to rolling. A simple handheld X-ray fluorescence analyzer could’ve been used yet you chose to trust but not verify. Stop the FUD…. Life is sacred btw don’t do anything crazy bud”

pablo_in_blood

Beautiful FUD & chaos dropping the price. Buy now and 2x in 1.5 years

brothercannoli

I just thankful I’ve been in long enough to not be underwater. I hate to say that coinbase actually seems like the safest place to keep my coins now. Ironically if they fuck up they are regulated as a public company. No I’m not protected if someone gets my log in but im not protected from user error with a hardware wallet OR the company fucking up. what’s the point anymore? I’m not even trying to spread FUD. I believed in btc but my faith is disintegrating.

sudo_rm-rf_

Right. Definitely not a good look that when this first started NVK literally called it FUD and blamed the people who lost funds of importing a bad seed on their Coldcard, or user error of leaking their seed. Maybe he should have investigated a little bit before trying to be edgy and being a dick.

Beneficial-Cut-6597

Good points, honestly just FUD and laziness holding me back

Excellent_Pop_1075

What's ironic is how popular the Coldcard option became after Ledger got a public beat down for the seed capture feature update that was something you had to opt into and pay for. It made me doubt Ledger but I stuck with it as my cold wallet. It caused worry and some poor nights of sleep. This PR nightmare for Coldcard is 1000x worse than what Ledger experienced a couple years back. Those that stuck with Ledger thru the FUD aren't dealing with this and I'd never wish a wallet drain on any Bitcoiner... but man am I glad I went with my gut & intuition on this. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. I wonder how many Bitcoiners switched from Ledger to Coldcard and had this happen out of the 350 or so wallets drained.

DocumentMysterious74

FUD

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Aidsfordayz

Glad I didn’t listen to the FUD about Ledger and switch to Coldcard.

Ill_Vacation_3503

Not FUD sadly, it's remote. Seeds generated on 4.0.1+ firmware came from a busted RNG, that's the 594 BTC sweep. New firmware won't save an old seed btw, you need a fresh one and move your coins. 'd go Passport, only one with published audits and open hardware. Coldcard weirdly still #2, five year old bug but they patched same day. Rabbit hole with sources: https://inteldo.com/s/1d9aca16-5f1d-4459-ad59-da81b0cb43dc

ghostchihuahua

Yeh, we’re on the verge of another shitshow with yesterday’s encryption news - any info, as irrelevant as it may be, will be abused to try and spread FUD. Do pass.

Nyxariel42

*Load the Koren FUD, then phuuump iiittt*

Romanizer

Most negative about Bitcoin is FUD to get retail investors to sell. Bitcoin is (almost) a net-zero game in supply. If you want to buy, you need others to sell (miners excluded). If you want to have a good entry, get others to sell as much as possible.

creative_usr_name

LoL there is nothing new about FUD surrounding Bitcoin. It's been a constant for over a decade.

olduvai_man

Yeah, bears are the usual par for the course in a bear market and I know most of the FUD accounts on X in that they complained about losing money after 10/10 and now are on a mission to post about it constantly lol. I'm really bullish on it as an infra play and the Layer Zero partnership to bring commercial bank activity on-chain and enable it through Solana/Base/Keeta/etc is way more interesting than just another L1. The ASK group partnership, Google Cloud collabs, KYC/AML protocol native, etc are so bullish to me for a project of this size. Not expecting much for the rest of the year but sounds like there is a path to significant volume and buyback/burns so stacking as much as I possibly can while it's a sub-100M market-cap. Almost no retail interest in this project right now so bargain bin prices.

MonsterMunch00

Not FUD but 45k bottom in October. After that a gradual rise to the next cycle top of 165k. Those looking to make life changing money in Bitcoin are a bit late

skelijah

You really think banks are astroturfing Reddit to FUD bitcoin?😂😂😂

Blade_Runner_69

🚨 WARNING 🚨 Bots are spamming Reddit with fake problems to do with BTC, to create a false sense that BTC, or services related can't be trusted. These posts are then fed into ai services which use these as examples of why to avoid BTC. This practice is often paid for and promoted by boomer Legacy banking companies. Manufactured FUD so to speak.

quintavious_danilo

You should also buy next year. FUD can‘t be hard enough.

Objective-Choice6518

I'm buying this year, so I welcome any FUD

Upbeat_Acanthaceae41

BTC has been around for almost 30 years. Institutions and governments hold close to 20% of all BTC. Can we stop using the term ‘FUD’ like we’re on a meme coin Discord server?

Laukess

What FUD are you talking about? Do you consider it FUD when people suggest the bottom is not in?

Forded_Fiction24

I don't think so either which is what I said in my comment, but it sure isn't going to help to project bullishness either. All I'm saying is that may be a reason that holders put out  manufactured FUD. It could be a lofty and unrealistic attempt to manipulate markets even though I agree it's not realistic to work on any scale. Doesn't mean some naive people won't try.  I honestly don't spend any energy writing FUD or learning about Bitcoin anymore than the basics. It doesn't matter to me. I just have an automated buy weekly and it's as simple as that. Someone that buys the same amount that I am but has a greater understanding isn't benefiting any more from their Bitcoin holdings than I am if all we're both doing is holding

Forded_Fiction24

Better than being a cheerleader for Bitcoin, especially if you're still stacking. The strategy for holders here would be exactly that Projecting FUD probably won't do a damn thing but if anything it'd help you buy at lower prices assuming a collective trend catches on and people start buying into the FUD. I think it's naive to think a post has that much influence coming from some random unrecognizable name, but it surely wouldn't hurt

YuWangKing

Im not reading this. All i can say is don’t dig yourself into a FUD hole. Dca and chill. You’ll be grateful in the future

Crank_8ball

What did it "feel" like? It shouldn't "feel" like anything. If you are investing emotion then it should feel like something. But here is an idea: only invest/buy/whatever what you can afford to lose. If seeing chart go up or down make ape angry or sad, maybe ape in wrong game. I see commenters saying that the hard part is the silence, ppl stop talking about it etc.  What? Why are you even paying attention to any of what is almost certainly no more than speculation. Unwittingly spreading and consuming FUD just sounds like youre a masochist. In which case Id reccomend you sticking with trusting things like banks and playing the stock market while watching primetime network news. But seriously, remove emotion, dont pay attention to speculation or FUD or anything. Dont even look at the charts. Set it and forget it. If you read the white paper and have educated yourself at all about Bitcoin, you already know you just come back in 5 or 10 years and then check the chart. Otherwise just buy and forget about it. I think of it like a garnished wage or 401k. Once its taken out of my check its gone...til retirement.  Its a store of value high interest savings account that you can borrow against. Quit treating it like its some get rich quick scheme or it really seems like most of yall are gambling and are really bad at math or handling money. No offense, just an observation. 

Ok-Abbreviations6442

This is my second cycle, and my second bear-market (I'm reluctant to call it the bottom, because nobody can confidently call that). In the first bear market, my investment was down approx 50%, but with a solid DCA for the last five years, for this "bottom", I am still 50% up. Keep hanging on dude! Ignore the FUD and buttcoiners, hodl tight until the next bull run and you'll be happy 😎