FUD

Baseic

I find the attitude within the bitcoin community quite baffling, especially for a community which prides itself for its tech affinity. Devs are not wizards that can willy-nilly cast a spell and implement quantum secure (QS) cryptography. The implementation of such an algorithm, due to the size and/or signing constraints of a QS signature, is not trivial and will pose very unpleasant questions regarding block size and client side requirements. Whenever I visit crypto and bitcoin communities on Reddit, these topics are barely discussed, and if they are discussed they are always handwaved away as FUD without considering what QS encryption actually entails. To humour the few readers of this comment: a signature accompanying QS encryption would be so large that for the most ideal algorithm, the amount of transactions per block would be reduced by a factor of 4 - 7 and generating a signature requires some challenging setup.

CyanDew

i’m very bullish. so bullish in fact, that nothing can FUD me out of my bag anymore… i’ve been swayed by narratives and sentiment for far too long. i know what i hold, i’ve always fxckin known. i was right about Bitcoin but people never understood what i saw, and i let them sway me. i say, enough. it’s either valhalla or zero. Godspeed ladies and gentleman.

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mrpotatonutz

Meet the new FUD same as the old FUD “AI hacking BTC” is a ridiculous phrase, it’s just going to “hack BTC” last time it was Quantum computers

ZenaWitch

You're right, the community has had their heads buried in the sand because FUD is bad for price. But that needs to end. As a side, the problem with fiat isn't one person's account being hacked or even one bank being hacked, the system is remarkably resilient to that in a way bitcoin isn't because of its reliance on identity. Of course, identity is likely trivial for AI to fake, but that is another problem. The big problem for fiat is simultaneous hacks, which AI could do, that pull on the interlocking threads of rehypothication and debts. In theory, the entire system could collapse without the possibility of restoration. Much like the internet, fiat is a tangled mess built on decades, if not centuries, of assumptions that didn't anticipate the kinds of coordinated attacks AI may enable. Bitcoin, on the other hand, always had the threat model of the math breaking as a possibility, but never took seriously the possibility of super intelligence creating an environment in which no math can ever be fully trusted because you never know when the next flaw will be discovered by an ever greater intelligence. Creating backups linked to identity isn't a realistic option, but proof of ownership using off chain signatures in another, quantum proof, math scheme could, in theory, allow for backups.

mbraucht

Weekend trading warriors FUD. You're being played. By the dip if you like them to play with the kids.

Lavayo

If they could they would. There just is no reason, except WILD black swans. Everything that happens this year, rate hike, inflation, Iran, coldcard, quantum FUD, mstr delisting + FUD lead to the price we have now. Everyone that wanted to sell did sell, except of new buyers of course. We can go down, even to the 200 wma. But new lows? 40k? Never. Would have happened already, before we saw those agressive upside moves. People still proclaiming 40k as something to be expected are the same people that expected a 250k top last year.

Cricket_8719

Encryption doesn’t matter if the systems at each end are compromised by ai agents. Even if they find enough private keys lying around it’ll create tons of FUD.

Feisty-Stranger-3776

Again, a guy who thinks he has influence and spreading FUD for his own gains or ego.

SaneLad

I've been stacking since 2017 and have heard enough FUD. That said, the probability is not zero unfortunately.

dou8le8u88le

Famed VC is playing the oldest game in the book. FUD on the asset, crash the price, buy it all.

biggest_guru_in_town

Scams,Exploits, Quantum/AI FUD BS

Romanizer

ASICs can't be use for AI and AI GPUs can't be used for Bitcoin mining (only in theory). You are reading old FUD, network hashrate is going back up.

PsychedelicHypnosis

Plot twist: He’s been buying bitcoin this whole time and used FUD all these years to deter everyone else and have people sell so he can buy more…The world isn’t as it seems gunny.

bitusher

Its already common recommended to use 1 UTXO/transaction per address regardless in Bitcoin which prevents multiple concerns . This has been the case since the whitepaper so is nothing new. Justin Drake has a conflict of interest because he works for a scam altcoin so is spreading FUD and if anything its his altcoin that is far more at risk from AI due to its large attack surface After the cold card incident Bitcoin has teams of Devs all using the latest frontier models to find bugs and exploits before anyone else There is no evidence with any of the recent AI work that ECDSA is at risk If anything the take away you should learn from this is update your software in general quickly during the next few years as AI advancements are effecting all software. The irony is Proof of stake altcoins are more at risk than Proof of work coins like Bitcoin from this threat. Here is a good discussion on the topic from a security expert without bias https://x.com/LindellYehuda/status/2107999859219587309 I wasn’t going to comment since this is a really bad take IMO, but since it’s taken off I feel the need to. To my understanding, there is no evidence whatsoever pointing to a break of decades old hardness assumptions like elliptic curve cryptography. The fact that AI can prove theorems that have been hard does not indicate in any way that problems assumed to be hard are not. Our assumptions on hard problems are not based merely on human fallibility but on a belief that inherent hardness exists. Of course, we can’t prove that EC discrete log is hard, since we haven’t been able to prove P neq NP. But just throwing out - AI is doing amazing math so elliptic curve hardness is in danger has no logical basis whatsoever. Furthermore, if it really would be broken, the ramifications to our digital world including the traditional financial industry would be immense. Once I can break ECC, I can generate fake PKI certificates and impersonate bank websites. Worse, I can generate malicious banking apps and even operating systems and sign them and push them to people phones and computers and completely take them over. But this is fear mongering since there’s zero evidence to this capability existing. And there’s also zero evidence that elliptic curve hardness is more vulnerable than hash function hardness. In fact historically hash functions have been more broken than elliptic curves. So this is also based on conjecture rather than any evidence. In conclusion, making such statements without any evidence is the opposite of responsible behavior. It is the very definition of FUD — it cannot be proven wrong but there’s also no evidence whatsoever of it being true.

TheresNoSecondBest

Just the same FUD for years. Bitcoin has been update hundreds of time. Why do they assume the thousands of people working on the software will be sitting on their hands and do nothing in this magical "quantum age"? We'll gonna upgrade like the rest of the world and the trolls will have to come up with some new FUD.

creative_usr_name

100% FUD. If this happens all encryption used to secure the internet would also be broken. Online banking and shopping would all be just as vulnerable.

Particular-Edge-7666

FUD

carsonthecarsinogen

I’d say it depends on your algo and time/ cycle. Over the years I’ve noticed more and more non maxi here. A couple years ago you’d get downvoted to hell oven mentioning a shit coin. And we’re in a bear, so there’s a lot more FUD and haters here than when it’s a bull. Two tides colliding. In a year or so it’ll be mostly Pro Bitcoin hype talk.

proper_turtle

You've been in this since 2013 so you've seen through all the Bitcoin FUD and BS, but now fall for AI hype and BS? LLMs did not "find" mathematical proofs (not in the way you think), and the quantum stuff is way overhyped too. Regarding mathematical proofs: There haven't been new proofs found by LLMs, and the LLMs are usually used by mathematicians as Tools and closely guided. They have found some novel ways / solutions for already proven mathematical theories, which is cool I guess, but again: This was as part of a usage as a tool (!) by mathematicians.

10kpizza

That "influencer" is a shitcoiner whos trying to spread FUD about bitcoin. Quantum is a realistic fear but the bitcoin ecosystem does have a plan. Read the bitcoin developer mailing list. There are a lot of ideas. SHRINCS is an idea for a post-quantum signature scheme that would be appropriate for bitcoin. There is the commit/reveal plan where we can freeze vulnerable coins but allow people to spend them by providing a quantum-resistant proof. P2TRv2 and P2MR are proposals for how post-quantum addresses will work. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/the-quantum-issue-to-freeze-coins-or-not

Wildwildworld123

"account suspended" Get your bot ass outta here with your Trezor FUD. The Internet is a cesspool. We know this already. Clicking a bad link doesnt drain your Bitcoin.

lobhater

Yeah exactly! I don't believe it. There have been so many of these posts I think it's a FUD campaign. 8 years experience and makes the 1 mistake every rookie knows not to make 🙄

Global_Project3502

brb sending this to my brother who's still convinced every bitcoin headline is FUD. the popcorn tin detail got me, had to double-check that one was real

Awkward-Green-1653

FUD

TheVeloRebel

Its not FUD just prepoaration for the narative of the 'Crypto Agility' era. Algo, sui, Nervos CKB, NEAR etc they are all getting to the point of looking like they will be less likely to fall. I do actulaly agree that the threat of BTC will propel the Quantum talk more aggressively because obviously it controls the market All these chains suddenly posting “we’re going PQ!!!” because the narrative flipped and they don’t wanna look slow, all the capable ones jumping too. It’s not pure FUD, it’s just the market finally admitting the risk is real enough that governments and big companies are actually prepping. You can’t keep calling it FUD forever when that happens. But most of them are still gonna eat shit on the migration. Hard forks, coordination problems, big signatures, slower everything, users have to move coins, drama. SPHINCS+ adopted chains will be big, those that already have on testnet or mainet . Chains will start bleeding from bad migrations, the ones that can switch clean get the flow. PQ shit bag coins should be positioned for this, BTC will get political soon I should imagine

CreamePie_482

Ive seen this in X, i think its not fake. But i would say its FUD. :)

Generationhodl

quantum is the new tether/climate/mining/hashrate/chinaban/whatever FUD have fun they will always find another new thing to spook off people.

CoinGate_Gift_Cards

Feels less like FUD and more like an infrastructure upgrade the industry will eventually have to absorb. The winners won’t just be ‘quantum-resistant’, they’ll be the ones that implement it without killing UX, speed, or real-world utility.

SpendHefty6066

Raspberry Zero has many use cases beyond SeedSigner. While this is a non-zero chance, it is highly improbable. And it has never happened. What is your point? Sounds like FUD.

BeatenbyJumperCables

https://cointelegraph.com/news/mediamarkt-pulls-ledger-wallet-security-incident Mediamarkt has pulled all ledger devices in all countries in coordination with Ledger. This is not FUD. It’s about product liability that they can no longer ignore.

0x537

FUD - downvote

Leynnox

Pretty sure there were no confirmations about other resellers than CryptoBilis, except some shaddy x posts showing devices pics with no issues. So FUD post again. CryptoBilis is/was an official reseller for Ledger in Asia. This society has been sold, then we seen compromised Ledger being sold by them, that's it.

irkish

Trezor's database did not get hacked. But you want to say that it did. Ok. Spread your FUD.

irkish

And you won't admit you're wrong and spreading FUD.

irkish

I'm not crying about. I'm just pointing out that what you said was wrong. Stop spreading FUD. You know you're wrong and now you're saying who cares. Just acknowledge your mistake and move on.

irkish

You lied about Trezor's database being hacked. I don't care about having fun. Just get your facts straight next time and stop spreading FUD.

irkish

You're technically wrong. "Trezor's database" did not get hacked. That's FUD. You're wrong. Yes it is terrible what happened. But don't lie about what actually happened.

irkish

Yes, that is still terrible. But saying Trezor's database got hacked is not true. Don't spread FUD.

Go-brandon-69

Oh look more FUD 😂 quantum computers will hack your bank accounts and everything else before bitcoin.

No-Librarian9605

The bigger concern than 3rd party wallet FUD is miner concentration that is being essentially controlled by 2 main parties Antpool and Foundry. We need to somehow change that centralization otherwise btc can be in trouble.

KyleBr7

Let us artificially reduce the price through all this FUD so that we can continue accumulating sats for cheaper

lobhater

FUD like this is absurd ETFs are for people who don't have the time or the ability to self custody. It's not hard The chances of your hardware wallet being drained are minute if done correctly. Buy directly from the manufacturer, roll your own dice and your 99.999% secure.

av6344

BTC must be ready to make a move. A lot of bitcoin FUD is making rounds.

LongDaysPleasntNites

The powers that be are good at injecting FUD throughout the media. So glad to see this one slowly dying off! Only 99 other things we’ll have to endure 😅

stheodore1974

Just DCA and enjoy the competing narratives along the way. It’s 99.99% just FUD and few know to just enjoy the long and slow ride up

PowerappsDev

I get your point, and I still believe in Bitcoin. I used to have more of a "fuck it, it'll work out" mindset. But with two kids and significally risen costs, my risk tolerance has changed. Even a small chance of losing everything stresses me out too much. I'd rather stick with a world ETF now. Just a personal decision, not wanting to spread FUD

AcostaJA

Saylor (msrt) 'sold' some Bitcoin to get into AI, I won't be surprised if he just sold 10btc and on Monday he announced he bought 4000 Bitcoin more... The always FUD (IA, quantum etc) followed by some "scandalous sell' and traders panic sells, the same Whales buy back their positions and a lot more Bitcoin captured from traders... I'm perplex on how this happens again and again, btw I doesn't affect serious hodlers but says a lot of the market Immaturity.

Datsyuk420

Stop spreading FUD

snek-jazz

It was a once off to prove they could, and it wasn't very much. Fair price to pay to destroy a bunch of FUD? maybe, maybe not.

ywintedsabbage3

Honestly loved his breakdown here. When the charts get noisy, simple conviction videos like this help drown out the short term FUD. Just reminds you why we stack sats in the first place and look at the multi year horizon instead of daily red candles. Solid find, definitely saving this one to show friends who keep asking when to jump in. DCA and chill works every single time.

Suspicious_Depth5545

We just finished a 30%+ move up not even 2 months ago what do you expect a rocket to 200k? There’s something called consolidation you should search it up since I can tell you trade on emotions based on all your FUD. I’m in since 60k I genuinely do not care if we drop to 80, 77, 75 although I know you do with ur $500 shorts

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I mean MSTR is still down 70%. Sure it bounced back a bit from its crash and people who bought the bottom made some good gains. Long terms holders, not so much. Strategy still revealed its cracks in its foundation. MSTR fanboys always said that Saylor would never sell and STRC can peg back easily, and people were just FUDing. But the FUD proved to be true, STRC quickly lost its peg and still hasn't fully pegged back, Saylor had to break his promise and sell BTC and dillute shares of Strategy to keep the boat afloat. His solution for his sinking ship was to basically flood the other compartments and let them sink evenly, to get the ship upright again. But just because a ship is no longer listing doesn't mean it's not still full of water. The bond buyback rally and liquidation rally came just in time to get some of that water out. But is it gonna be enough?

Ark3tech

Lol, you really think private corpo is going to let it go down to a few bucks? That's a 99.99% crash in price. There has never been an insane crash like that in any major market history, so I don't even know where the notion comes from other than a pit of FUD.

Suspicious_Depth5545

Well well well look who’s back Gaston and flabarfin the two chud twins crawling out of moms basement to FUD again, the misery is just radiating from you two chuds

Suspicious_Depth5545

You and gaston44 should suck each other off with all the bearmaxxing you guys do all day. You FUD every day even on weekends, are you really that miserable irl?

MrExCEO

How can that law get passed, that’s just stupid, FUD right, right!!!

cosmicselva

A question I’d be asking myself is if the gov even has the capability to track down who owns what, and by the time they do if they’ll even do anything about it. If it were me I’d remain steadfast and hold in cold storage. Ignore the noise. I’d consider this another of the many attempts for governments to inject FUD. But you do what feels best for you OP

Suspicious_Depth5545

Buddy lives on the sub fudding every hour unless ur paid to FUD you might be the most miserable person I’ve ever seen chronically online

bluespacecolombo

I worked in web3 in 2 startups for 3 years total. I have the same conclusion. Working in the blockchain space was the biggest source of FUD for me so far. Funny how the most vocal about how blockchain is the tech of future are the people who have nothing to do with tech or little understanding of it, but I guess its telling

UnsersGottaGo

Article claims "no evidence" a cryptographically relevant quantum computer (CRQC) will exist within a decade, like bro, did you even read this paper? https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/68836d4838193cb461ebc7d2/6a9f3d3ada3cb06dec2ac20e_IonQ%20Fully%20Compiled%20End-to-End%20Resource%20Estimate%20for%20Breaking%20256-Bit%20Elliptic-Curve%20Signatures.pdf "19,397 physical trapped-ion qubits could recover a secp256k1 private key from its public key in about 25.7 days per attempt" IonQ's own roadmap states 20,000 qubits is 2029-2030. Quantum isn't FUD. it's a matter of time.

Romanizer

No shit. Bear market is over, keep that FUD for the next round.

SpendHefty6066

This papers central premise is flawed. Bitcoin never promised against wealth concentration. It holds its promise on three things: 1) cannot be censored. No one can block your transaction to anyone else on the network. 2) when properly secured, Bitcoin cannot be confiscated. Bad guys can hurt you, but unless you hand over the keys they get nothing. 3) your holdings cannot be debased by anyone else. No one can print bitcoin from thin air. It requires real energy. Whales have no power or authority over the protocol. This is FUD disguised as research.

bananabastard

Even before BIP-110, Kratter was starting to become a serious FUD channel prior to that. From imo the best out there, to 90% FUD.

No-Masterpiece2246

quantum FUD

Doritos707

The definition of FUD lol. Are u imagining that ASI to takeover all Asic miners and nodes somehow?

AidenTai

I'm not sure what will happen in October, but if we don't rise, quickly, we should probably prepare for retests of local support down. There's enough FUD right now about how fast we rose that calls the rally into question. We'll need a strong defence to keep the FUD at bay and regain upwards momentum, which appears to have stalled, at least in part due to macro outlook. Hopefully, the macro should get priced in and stabilize over the next couple months.

looneytones8

Banks, stock exchanges and websites have rate limiting. That being said quantum is pure FUD

ChillerID

I wonder if you read the article before claiming it a FUD. "The most difficult problem may involve bitcoin that does not migrate at all. Some early outputs have been dormant for more than a decade. Others may belong to people who lost their keys years ago. Still others are associated with Satoshi Nakamoto. If those coins remain protected by vulnerable cryptography after the rest of the network migrates, bitcoin faces several unattractive options. Leaving them untouched could eventually allow a quantum attacker to spend them. Preventing them from moving could mean changing bitcoin’s rules to make otherwise valid coins unspendable. The debate over quantum resistance could therefore become a debate about ownership. Should coins remain spendable simply because the protocol recognizes the signature? Does the network have an obligation to protect obviously vulnerable funds? Who decides when an unmigrated coin has had enough time to move?"

Hot_Local_Boys_PDX

Here is the Head of Digital Asset Research st BlackRock discussing quantum as it relates to blockchain for over an hour, but sure let’s keep dismissing it as “FUD”: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Puv7Yyymy6M

TheresNoSecondBest

**Don't give up, mate**. I had similar questions when I heard about Bitcoin for the first time. Then I started my research and ended up mining it myself. I would say, people without going through these questions at the beginning will FOMO buy the top and then all the unanswered questions will hit them at the bottom of the bear when there's FUD all over the news.

MinimalistMindset35

There is no Trezor exploit. Stop spreading FUD. Don’t say things you can’t prove. I’ve been in Bitcoin for almost 6 years, Trezor is the first hardware wallet and Coldcard STOLE Trezor’s open source code and changed a few lines to try to hide it behind copyright which is why Coldcard had the exploit in the first place, GREED. If Coldcard had kept the code is plagiarized from Trezor 100 million in Bitcoin wouldn’t have been stolen. You know CC had an exploit and you’re choosing to trust them, I can’t fix stupid. Don’t make a post on here looking for sympathy if you get screwed by CC. Smh

snek-jazz

Multiple things to address common FUD being thrown at them. * to prove they could without *crashing* the market, that MSTR is not the only source of demand for bitcoin. * to show that the bitcoin backing the pref obligations really is backing it. * to show that they are not ideological to the point of detriment - they're willing to sell if it makes sense to do so (even if it arguably didn't in this case) and they're willing to prioritize the STRC obligations. * A minor final point, but it was part of shoring up the cash reserve to a sufficient level. You could argue that they could have just ignored the FUD instead of caving and acting to address it. That they could have just rode out the bear market passively and waited for btc to recover. But they decided to be active, and it's put the company in a safer and stronger position at a slight cost to btc per share. Was it optimal? I don't know but I also don't care that much as the cost wasn't that much either. The important take away is two things: Firstly this summer was about responding to a STRC stress test, and learning the lesson that the market wanted a cash reserve. It was about building confidence in STRC for the future and reducing the future risk of the legacy convertible bonds. It was about showing what they can do if necessary. Secondly is that most of this was a anomaly that likely will never need to be repeated - they're not going to need to raise $6B+ from common/btc in a short period of time again, so any extrapolation of this summer to the future is ill advised.

Long-Championship851

We are in the middle of an oil crisis and major AI FUD. Bitcoin is treated like a tech stock on crack by traditional markets. When the stock market craters this year it will take crypto with it.

JeremyLinForever

wtf kind of beat post is this? Internet access FUD? Get out of here with that BS. If Bitcoin drops to $40k, it likely means that purchasing power of the US dollar is weak too. It’s all relative. But keep FUDing fudder.

yefuck

Hell ya ! It’s nothing! Upvote this post hombres we want full FUD.

zeroboundss

I was right that they are planning the big final exit pump in Q4. I was wrong about rate cuts, but that was just a FUD point being used back then to sideline retail. My argument did not rest on rate cuts.

devCheckingIn

Those of you who bought MSTR during the FUD crisis have made out pretty well I'd say.

Tealover2704

Both scenarios assume you can predict the market. I've been in the game long enough to know how often that goes wrong. I buy, the price drops. I sell, it goes up. I buy again, and it keeps dropping. There's no perfect solution because you can't predict the market. The only thing you can change is that assumption. What works for me is buying when everyone is in FUD and selling when everyone is in FOMO. Especially when it comes to crypto

Sea_Variety_1691

im not getting ahead of myself however i hope the shorts who have been posting FUD and smirking out of their asshole for the past year on here eat shit with this rally.

navras

Quantum FUD is only getting started.

Ninjahkin

FUD slop

Anoncry66

U forgot the biggest elephant in the room: $40 trillion in national debt simply cannot be sustained at 5% interest rates without a massive fiscal collapse. the stock market has been artificially sitting at peak valuations for years while AI has basically hit a wall, just doing circular revenue accounting to inflate numbers while compute sits idle. when interest payments alone eat up the budget, China FUD won't even be a footnote

Spiraldox

who knows, they're just saying it won't go DOWN to hit $80,000 ;) not FUD at all!

KryptoSC

Talk about a lame effort in creating FUD.

allg33k

100% I don't have any hesitation on continuing to invest in crypto. It's going to continue to grow regardless of regulation. I personally think a lot of this negative FUD is from the banking industry trying to hold on and at the same time build thier own infrastructure. Why would they be soooooo mad about deposit flight when they could just offer similar products. They already have the customers. It would be super easy to offer that kind of product to them to retain thier business. Currently they are just taking in way more profit because they way things have been and they don't want to give that up.

Tebasaki

FUD right here

devCheckingIn

Fake Fed FUD is over... time to pump to $90k. 💪

BoatsNFoes

If you say so. We’ve been seeing the same FUD and hearing about the Clarity act passing since 2024. It’s a matter of time before something breaks in the economy and money starts moving from assets again. Best thing to be doing is stacking and HODL

anon1971wtf

That's depends on security threshold. Currently for Bitcoin: 800 equivalent quadrillion Joules and 1000 equivalent SHA256b Proof-of-Work days For comparison: BCH is 30x or even less secure and still no one is amassing capital to attack it, not even double FUD + 51% attack

devCheckingIn

STRC pretty much back to par now. So what will be the next pile of FUD to come out?

lifeanon269

Enough with the bullshit FUD. Clarity isn't "doomsday". I'm not a fan of the act and I honestly don't think it will do much of anything for bitcoin itself. It is mostly for stablecoins etc, which are really just new payment rails for the existing fiat system. The protections for developers will likely be stripped which is about the only thing that would be good to have for bitcoin. If the US economy crashes, it certainly won't be because of bitcoin. That's a ridiculous claim to make considering everything taking place at the moment, all of which has far great impact on the economy. War, oil, money printing, job markets, tariffs, trade wars, debt, bond markets, interest rates, AI bubble, etc. Take your pick. All of these things have far greater impact on the economy. Bitcoin is so far down the list it shouldn't even be considered on it. The quantum FUD is also bullshit. Yes, there are addresses that won't ever be moved to post-quantum addresses and it is inevitable they will be moved by a QC someday. But it really isn't any different than if someone who did actually originally own those coins moved them. What matters here is that the people who currently hold and use bitcoin are able to secure their funds with quantum safe addresses and that is being worked on now and will be ready long before QC becomes a threat. The idea that we just wake up one day and a QC is suddenly a threat and peoples' money is gone is just fearmongering nonsense. It is clear from your post that you don't like bitcoin and are biased, so it seems like you got lost somewhere along the line and most likely somehow found yourself missing from the r/buttcoin sub.

DRAGULA85

Cool story. You can read all sorts of FUD for any investment.

btwwhichoneispink

The amount of FUD spreading for cold storage is suspicious to me.

Miserable-Regular544

😂 tether FUD keeps rolling. Insolvency turned old I guess, so now new “bad spotlights” are necessary. Actually this is a good thing and probably makes them (more) solvent. If what they do isn’t what the market wants people have a choice to use a competing USD pretending coin? I don’t really see whats the news or issue here?

AstroBoyWunder

The FUD sure took its sweet time to get here 🙄

Archiver_test4

The FUD against Iran is quite annoying really. Do Americans really think Iran would just sit there, let USA and Israel bully them, sanction them and they would do nothing? They shouldn't do anything?

BitcoinMD

Started with 5% of my portfolio and let it grow from there. Bitcoin is high risk, that’s not FUD

photonsponge

Praise be to FUD!

Huge-Charge3758

FUD