FUD

Low_Explorer_2097

The idea that all this coins are unique is wrong. Nobody cares what utility a coin has. Its all FUD vs FOMO and all shitcoins react to BTC movement.

djscoox

Humans are very predictable: fall for the FUD, succumb to FOMO.

anon1971wtf

It's in a superposition of FUD and existential threat at all times

Glittering_Pick_9738

Stupid tariffs FUD is back? 

Vivian830926

Exactly! People love spreading doomsday FUD without understanding basic cryptographic architecture. Fault-tolerant quantum computing with enough stable logical qubits to run Shor's or Grover's algorithm is nowhere near retail accessibility, it requires millikelvin dilution refrigerators and lab conditions. Plus, if SHA-256 and elliptic curve cryptography were compromised overnight, the global financial SWIFT network, national defense, and traditional banking would collapse long before Bitcoin! The post-quantum cryptography transition is already well underway.

AintNoFortunate1

I wonder how many are thinking to take profit now after all the FUD of the past few weeks.

devCheckingIn

Where did all the FUD about Strategy go?

MacMuthafukinDre

Just FOMO back in at $150k my guy, when there’s no more FUD. That’s usually the move. “Be greedy when everyone greedy” - Warren Buffer I think

P0werT0Th3Play3r

It is way easier. Do your own research, Invest only what you can afford to lose, do not pay attention to FUD. The most people here, do this. Cheers!

Objective-Walk6780

You hear about all these FUD every single bull cycle lol

Extra-Tip1259

FUD

Hypnotic101

Enough FUD. You're in the wrong sub for that.

Leynnox

You can stop with the FUD non sense, come back in 4 years, thank you

Disavowed_Rogue

Because people want cheaper Bitcoin. FUD

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

ploqx

Are we expected to believe consensus won't upgrade to post-quantum? "Moving funds" where? Once Bitcoin soft forks and gets post-quantum addresses, then it'll be the time to make the switch. FUD

snek-jazz

I agree with you on that, I agree with the person you're replying to on their final statement. If you bought MSTR at peak FUD in the last cycle you got a 30x+ run to the peak (source: I did)

binary_quasar

Bro everybody sees through your "just saying the facts" facade. This is a highly-regarded person's attempt at FUD.

binary_quasar

Couldn't have said it better myself. These people love to FUD MSTR and Coinbase. CB in particular has been on the brink of insolvency or actually insolvent for almost a decade now according to these shitsniffers.

Todo_es

Your FUD aged like milk.

snek-jazz

Sorry for your short, *concern citizen*. Not sure that out-of-date FUD will help you.

snek-jazz

how about you check the numbers in the out of date shite FUD you posted? how many bitcoin does MSTR have?

HodlusHereticus

40-100 years away, and we can update. Stupid FUD

suuperfli

yea all the FUD points that come out all over my posts during bear market because people are so butthurt and their views are dictated by emotions instead of logic

vvwaltervvsobchak

LOAD ZE QUANTUM FUD tldr- im sure you shilled some bullshit "quantum resistant" shitty alt in there and alternatively; you can go pound sand

Illustrious-Boss9356

Dude I totally agree with you. Which is why we have a lot of our capital in Bitcoin. But theft not being baked in doesn't mitigate real practical occurances of theft. And yes those are all FUD points, they also happen to be true and concerning.

OrangePillar

Anyone who says that will HFSP. It’s just FUD. Ignore that person and move on.

satoshisfeverdream

Good let the FUD flow through you.

Laukess

I actually think you're 100% right on the conviction being the variable that determine allocation. I don't think your description of conviction is correct though. None of the factors you describe change my conviction. Conviction to me is about knowledge. If you understand why you own bitcoin, and you know it's value proposition, price wont affect your conviction. I don't think the CC exploit should shake your conviction, as we've always known that custody carries risk, but it's still a far more reasonable argument as a factor that lowered your conviction than price. I also don't think reading news should have an effect. As you learn, you should know why all the FUD is basically baseless. News about adoption should also not affect your conviction. Yes, it might have a negative or positive effect on price, but again, price is not conviction. Anyway, I think 1%-5% allocation is reasonable for someone who's not into bitcoin, but want a bit of exposure in case it takes off. I think you can find some analysis on this if your interested. Your portfolio will be better off in most cases i think. If your well off, and don't want the risk, 20% sounds reasonable. Even if you lose it all, it won't be catastrophic, and if your well off, it's probably more important to secure your wealth compared to maximizing gains. For young people with a lot of time ahead of them, and high conviction, I think going 100% is sound. It's a bit extreme, but it might be the only way out for a lot of people. As time passes and the volatility lowers, this becomes a worse argument, and at some point having a 50% allocation might be the best choice. A disclaimer, I think bitcoin is still in a position that it can absolutely rip. Like $500k-$1m in 2029. Like some LLM math said that if we saw the same market cap gain in bitcoin as we've just seen with gold, bitcoin would basically be above $1m. Bitcoin is a lot lower market cap, so I think we could easily induce way more FOMO because the percentage price gain would be way higher and we've already had a history of insane runs. Obviously a lot of people think the fun times are over, because they look at the past 5 years. If you're in this camp, 100% allocation is probably not the way to go. I'm very happy that I went 100% when I found bitcoin, even though I had no money. Way better off today than if I would have gone 50% bitcoin.

Delicious-Care-5025

May god hear you bro, I'm still DCAing into DOT; the FUD surrounding it is huge, but I want to believe we've already hit the bottom with this coin

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Efficient_Ice_1001

Post from 9 years ago when XRP was $3.20 with a Bloomberg investigation into the claims that banks are using XRP for international transfers > Bloomberg - Banks do not want to use XRP from Ripple > Well it's been 6 years (since Ripple said that banks were going to use XRP) and it's not growing (XRP usage), the one company we found who is using XRP is a Mexican/U.S company that does remittances and they've done 10 to 15 transactions since October averaging between $500 and $1,000 dollars. That is the only company we've found that is using the digital token for the stated purposes that Ripple puts out on twitter and in other places all the time https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7t0j1f/bloomberg_banks_do_not_want_to_use_xrp_from_ripple/ XRP was $2.20 in 2017 when this guy sold all his XRP and warned people. Cripples were saying he was posting FUD. 9 years later XRP is at $1 > "You don't own anything of actual value with XRP...crypto investors are buying at $2+ per coin. Banks *DO NOT* want the coins https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/

Alfador8

OK so you're spreading FUD.

LongDaysPleasntNites

There’s so much FUD out there it makes me want to back the truck up but unfortunately I’m out of fiat and I’ve already sold one of my kidneys. Cest la vie

ZascandileandoAndo

Well you've done well. Get ready for the next dump and extreme FUD. I'd advise you to stop reading news about BTC because they're gonna tell you it's dead and going to zero non stop.

btwwhichoneispink

The FUD peddlers are in full force, someone wants the normies to sell 🤔

Save_JR

Stop spreading FUD

junkhead_7

How dare you spread FUD? /s

Top-Technology1

Internet computer (ICP) for me. It’s the only one in my opinion that is breaking away from being purely built for financial transactions. It’s now able to offer full-stack hosted apps fully on-chain, decentralised and sovereign and soon once they launch cloud engines it’s able to go toe-to-toe with AWS, Azure and GCP enabling mass adoption and utilisation. Seems like crypto’s best kept secret, but I suspect other chains don’t want it to succeed as it could wipe the floor with them, hence there is an incredible amount of FUD and negativity especially from people who bought in 5 years ago. Do your research, but I really think it offers a great opportunity.

ir88ed

Also old, and have been involved since 2014 or so. The halvings are more like global warming: a push that has a general effect. But there will be wild variance from day to day, month to month based on leveraged trading, FUD, FOMO, scandal, etc. Also your point about sample size is also well taken. Bitcoin has been around less than 20 years, and much of that time was in it's infancy were different forces were at play than now. Just like technical analysis of stocks is witchcraft, same applies to BTC. If you like the asset, just buy and hold.

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

jungle

Thank you for such an in-depth analysis. It's very refreshing to read such high-quality content amongst all the FUD and spam in this sub.

TooFewTulips

I get it. My friends have a knack for discussing investments. They talk about buying SpaceX and AI stocks and I say MSTR and Bitcoin look like good value. I give my brief analysis when asked, but they just come back with the FUD du jour. No criticism of analysis. Just FUD that Strategy’s 4% means Bitcoin is compromised, or that quantum is a threat — even they know nothing about bitcoin’s encryption, or most recently how miners are pivoting to AI. They offer no analysis of their stock picks other than being Elon fans and believers in Ai. They are like the personification of an X feed. I think many such people today just regurgitate the hot takes of the day.

ClottedYouth

This is FUD and speculation. I just bought a MK5 a few days ago and it has already shipped. Their online shop says the units will ship with updated firmware. I'll use dice for entropy and the CC will remain an air-gapped signing device.

Ok_Pollution7093

Speculation without a CVE or proof isn't a warning, it's FUD.

BritishBully

Anyone still claiming that CRO isn't going to $2.71 is just spreading FUD ! [/s]()

brando2131

Weird reasoning. Coldcard is a product that people would have still used regardless of the "dumb hive mind FUD about ledger.

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD and dangerous

Outrageous_Raise_535

This whole fiasco was prompted by people overreacting to ledger recover. Which was a dumb idea rolled out in a dumb way. However ledger has always been a solid product besides that. It’s sad to think that a lot of people lost money by listening to the dumb hive mind FUD about ledger. I was using ledger at the time, looked into the FUD, concluded it was baseless, and kept my coins where they were. Ultimately the thing which protects you is having some technical knowledge and the ability to sift through information on that basis. If you’re worried about secure seed generation, it isn’t magic. The seed is basically a long number. The “words” in the seed phrase represent parts of the number. You need a good source of entropy to make the words truly random. Ledger is probably fine. I have had coins on a ledger for nearly 10 years without any problems.

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD

hodler1992

So much FUD. Beautiful bottom zone

UzItOrLuzIt

These posts are manufactured garbage. ESL and yet 100% perfect English, purporting to use the pinnacle tech to secure their password from their sub-first world nation to protect their first world nation reasonably high-level stack. Coming out in droves to smother the boards. This is a FUD campaign. Clear, obvious and smooth brain designed to say the least. They want your coins/SATS. These sob-stories are fake and designed to shake your confidence. Very few from shithole situations/countries had the wherewithal to accumulate early enough, or significantly enough, to produce the loss tragedies being peddled on the boards for the past 2 weeks. 100% propaganda. Just a pile of fucking lies to shake your confidence and get you to sell at the low of the cycle.

Doritos707

FUD. This is time to buy. Lets see your comment next time BTC passes 100k

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

> You guys will go down in history Actually, within a few months, they'll be forgotten. I doubt most Bitcoiners know what BIP110 was. > they put up a good fight They didn't. They tried to spread FUD and misinformation, and they turned allies into enemies. Many of them declared civil war against Bitcoin, which is hilarious considering they didn't even represent 3% of those running nodes and probably less than 1% of the community as a whole. Now, some of them are trying to figure out how to come slithering back into the community as if they did nothing wrong.

slykethephoxenix

All the quantum FUD cleaned out the sellers. Now nothing is moving the price lower. Selling pressure seems to have all dried up. This works in reverse during bull markets too.

CiaranCarroll

A painful lesson, I'm really sorry that voices here and elsewhere in Bitcoin were not louder about the risk of this exploit. A lot of the responsibility is on people who propagated FUD about the "risks" of dice rolls. I have to question whether that was coordinated, and why other HWWs don't support them. It should be ubiquitous given how central to Bitcoin's principles the idea of verification is. People need to start asking questions around who is behind these accounts. I remember there was more commentary on this when I bought my CC Q a few years ago, so why did it die off. Why were people caught so unawares? Maybe it was simply a preference for over-engineered solutions in technical communities, and an antipathy to the analogue solutions available to anyone.

crooks4hire

Pretty surprising to me how quickly FUD whipped this situation from shitty proprietary codebase into “bitcoin is under attack”.

BigDik6355

Exacly. More FUD creation.

Fearless-Second-7230

https://twitter.com/COLDCARDwallet/status/1432681712941735939 That post shows how there were questions raised about entropy, yet nvk just being rude.over the security researchers and saying FUD. It is clear negligence right there, is like a car vendor angry for asking about breaks quality.

ConcernSquare2474

You got deleted because there are several threads already and you obviously dont give a shit. Because you either are to dump to look shit up or you want to keep the FUD going.

Gangaman666

True. I try not to complain too much, this space has enough FUD and ridiculous drama.

TheRicFlairDrip

I transferred $10k less than three weeks ago to my bank account, came within a day or two, delete this FUD

retrorays

sounds like bs - and FUD generation. Kraken is one of the best, and most experienced, exchanges out there. Why would you think they are insolvent??

CiaranCarroll

This is FUD. If you're concerned you can just roll them a few more times. It's a fucking stupid argument only an autistic person would come up with, or someone with strategic interest limiting the security of normal people by propagating disinformation. Either way, explain why using multiple dice or rolling a few more times doesn't mitigate against the lack of true randomness? Or don't, I don't, I won't respond either way.

MrMoo151515

We’ll see what happens today with the BIP110 stuff but after all the FUD the last couple of weeks and the price held I think we’ve bottomed. Doesn’t mean we’re going up any time soon but I doubt it goes lower

Careless_Product_792

No they did not. https://gitlab.com/walletscrutiny/walletScrutinyCom/-/work_items/340 All evidence is there that they just claimed FUD when security researches wanted to audit their shit.

HoldenVJ

Kudos! Good job destroying the FUD

SeriousGains

Absolutely. This Coldcard hack is one that actually brings fear, uncertainty and doubt to the HODLers, the group previously impervious to FUD. While affecting a rather small proportion of total users, it puts into question the core tenants Bitcoin, the safety and security of self-custody.

kobriks

Quantum FUD is still alive and well. Plenty of Joes still believe Bitcoin will be broken any day now

Disavowed_Rogue

FUD and stupidly. DCA and hodl

btwwhichoneispink

FUD is FUD, just keep stacking 🤙

Blade_Runner_69

Yep 100% co ordinated FUD. It's so pathetic these no life losers spend so much time crying about BTC!

gphie

A hardware wallet is still the best place for your coins. Ledger's RNG is solid and you can be sure manufacturers are gonna be obsessing over preventing another bug like coldcard in the future. Still, no form of protection is 100% effective, but succumbing to FUD shows you may not actually know what you invested in and you may just be speculating. If you're scared, a high yield savings account with fdic insurance may be more up your alley

baddabaddabing

Total overreaction. FUD is rampnat. Dont let that shit crawl under your skin. Educate yourself.

Blade_Runner_69

Sloppy Ai FUD post alert 🚨

SafeMoonJeff

Old news and highly exaggerated. As far as I know, only influencers/crypto millionaires or people working in the industry (CEOs) have been targeted. No "casual" user like you and me has been "attacked." I swear people FUD whatever and whenever the opportunity presents itself. Cheers

HughHonee

I think most of the "tainted bitcoin" shit is FUD I imagine addresses are blacklisted, and maybe coin that comes directly from it. But any individual can make as many of their own wallets as they want and spread them through out those to mix with "untainted coin" Then randomly swapped for another coin from various sources and boom, Bob's your uncle. Plus I doubt many platforms are going to turn away someone from depositing a sizeable amount of crypto onto their platform because some it came from a wallet linked to hacked funds many transactions ago

Aqua-Barracuda

Just in time for the FUD to drive down the price before the halving. 😂🤣

Ginux

It must be acknowledged that we cannot completely detach ourselves from the banking system at this stage, and the banking industry has an incentive to maintain this dependence by FUD . Therefore, the whole point of KYC lies in switching between the 2 systems. We don't need to completely reject KYC, you can divide your assets into 2 parts: KYC assets that need to be exchanged with banks, and off-grid assets that controled by yourself. This is easy to achieve, and I've been doing it since 2013.

Kitchen_Catch3183

Get a PhD in computer science and become a subject matter expert in cryptography. Then post here with your findings and get banned for FUD before becoming ostracized by the community as a whole.

Hypnotic101

2073 to hit 1M? lol. Trying to spread FUD?

Lazy-Effect4222

We are not even remotely close to that. And when someone is, it’s still far from a malicious actor gaining that tech. It’s not like Google or MIT will start stealing bitcoin. At some point we will likely be there. But right now the FUD around it is just stupid. Not the mention the same tech will bring the whole world to it’s knees. Everything is secured by those algos. Some systems can be fixed, some can’t. And the current VPN/email/etc traffic that is being logged by multiple actors is going to be a huge issue. Bitcoin is the least of our problems when encryption breaksz

CiaranCarroll

You have to wonder who was propagating that bullshit FUD. Maybe HWWs that didn't use that feature, in favour of using code-driven entropy that you cannot validate the way you could with ColdCard?

Intrepid_Interest912

FUD

KylianHaaland11

I'm a Bitcoin Maxi... The thing is that banks can rollback that if it happens... Worse case scenario they have the backing of the government to rollback any damage. Bitcoin doesn't. Just an opinion, I repeat I'm a Bitcoin Maxi, I will keep buying because I think the Quantum threat is FUD so won't deter me.

fuckswithboats

So you want bitcoin to be regulated? That’s the only way a govt will be defining “ownership”. The exchanges were the first bad thing to happen in crypto - the market was better when the difficulty of setting up a wallet and node was the moat. Exchanges brought in stupid money and carnival barkers who turned the whole thing into a sideshow. The exchanges aren’t gonna do shit - you think Steak n Shake will refuse them a burger because they used a mixer? The feeling you’re having now, and all of these “ideas to fix coldcard hack” are just the real life examples of what everyone writes off as “FUD”.

l_Pulser_l

Big money wants in to control it soo bad its all part of the plan. The FUD campaign from the media will not stop until their madters get what they want.

Frosty_Reporter_1250

Max FUD. Time to buy.

DRAGULA85

You’re waiting for the bottom absolute tip. Not gonna happen. Just DCA when Bitcoin is dipping. It’s amazing price right now Sure, $60k is better than $64k but you might not catch it. The whole point of DCA is to buy regardless of price. And it’s best to do it when all the FUD is screaming that it is a bear market.

Romanizer

Who cares about who is going to implement their Bitcoin strategy first? The only winning move is to hold on to as much Bitcoin as possible and always has been. If you are able to shake others off through FUD, good for you but regular traders should probably stick to 'buy and hold'.

polishsuszi

Crypto was much better during Biden and all the FUD of Democrats. Much worse during 'the best Crypto president' first two years back in office

TopEmotional6734

Would you really call a huge amount of peoples crypto being hacked when they had it stored in what a layman would think is the safest way FUD?

ComfortableGas5223

You ever notice that right towards the end of a bear cycle, there’s a sudden attack or exchange collapse causing sudden FUD and price drop? Then major governments start buying at the bottom… Maybe all anecdotal but interesting timing nonetheless.

classified_x

so buy it, but don't come around to hold hands. there is no FUD tbh... not until it starts dropping 10% everyday, with some 15-20% spikes... not until much lower

Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck

Quit adding to the FUD

nonkeywayzee

1. Not really open source, just code available 2. They discarded all disclosed [attacks as FUD](https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0psuaeev9f3hqau0sn4kj7n282pd5ayjn2hxhlm3ay427g28e8ygpzfmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82cszyql6ph5spag4lu0j48prj7k7hj396470t8zlud9da3q3gms3aapsvyq08w6) and[ didn't compensate researchers](https://thecharlatan.ch/COLDCARD-Supply-Chain/). They created a situation where nobody had a single incentive to check their code, in an industry where it is pretty much standard practice to get your code reviewed by competitors. So don't blame competitors or researchers, Coldcard created an environment where nobody would want to help them and the little help they got despite such environment [got rejected even when being obviously critical](https://x.com/jamesob/status/2084624605969350915).

Thin_Needleworker795

No it does not. Quantum computers cannot break a properly generated bitcoin seed with good entropy. Please stop spreading all this FUD.