FUD

BigDeezerrr

Energy FUD has been so thoroughly debunked and destroyed. It's funny the complete opposite of what they were saying is true, NOT mining bitcoin is the real waste of energy.

Alternative_Shop8999

Why would people put money into a riskier asset if they take it out of a less risky asset due to FUD?

readinurse

the humor isn't a weakness. it's armor. that line from the post nailed something I've been trying to articulate for weeks. serious projects crack under FUD because the brand can't absorb it. solfart buttheads absorb everything because the whole identity is built on not taking yourself too seriously while still doing serious math.

baxzax

Closing in on 3 million tokens in my bag and plan to reach 15-20 before this closes. I started with $40 and been consistently building since. The continued news that comes out every few days has been so positive. If it reaches 10 CEX listings this week, I'll probably begin filling my bag faster and go beyond initial goals. I have 3 diff tokens right now but none of them seem to keep up with Patos' activity . The news, the CEX Listings, and now this game. I dont get why people try to downplay the 'reality' of projects that have factual data out here for us to read. If you ask them "Whats better and how?" they get quiet on all of these subs. I assume it's FUD from other brands too as mentioned.

Life_Alternative9849

No, what's funny is your account. You'll post this just like the last 'FUD' account and not respond back. What coin would you invest in that has more CEX listing support? That can be found on Google News? And has a useful dAPP that connects to the wallet of users and rewards them? I'll wait sir.

Vetrol_

Possible? Sure. if market conditions change and everyone starts buying despite the 4 year cycle and FUD in the world. Probability? Basically zero. Nothing in the chart screams for a bounce and market sentiment is risk-off.

Rent_South

Are you trying to convincr yourseld ? Why write this post at all. FUD all day with these people. One of many. 

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Post is by: talkative_mine and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1relm6e/is_the_cex_stress_cycle_getting_shorter_another/ I didn't even finish reading the whole Guardian piece this morning. I got halfway through the part about $1.7B linked to Iran-backed groups and I just closed the tab and went straight to my exchange dashboard. I’m so tired of this. I don’t care if the allegations are 100% true or just another hit piece, I’m just a retail guy who doesn’t want my funds caught in the crossfire of a legal war between a CEX and a global regulator. We’ve seen this movie before. Headlines lead to FUD, FUD leads to a bank run, and suddenly the 'withdraw' button is just a decoration. If the biggest player in the game is constantly under the microscope, staying 100% on one platform is just asking for a bad time. My 'Emergency Exit' logic (what I actually did today): 1. Cold storage for the 'untouchables.' Anything I’m not trading this week is off the grid. Period. 2. Stop being a CEX loyalist. I finally stopped being lazy and split my active trading bags. I set up a secondary venue on BYDFi today. Honestly, what sold me was how seriously they treat asset segregation. They partnered with Ledger for cold storage and have a dedicated 800 BTC protection fund sitting there. If I’m going to keep liquidity on an exchange while the market is melting down, I want a 'Plan B' platform that actively proves user funds are isolated and backed by a real safety net, rather than a CEO just tweeting 'funds are safu'. Maybe I’m overreacting, but I’d rather have five different accounts and a cold wallet than be the guy crying on a subreddit because my only exit ramp got frozen by a surprise court order. How are you guys moving? Are you sticking with the 'Big Names' despite the headlines, or are you diversifying? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

FantasticInterest373

Haha most were still typing their FUD pieces tbh.

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TheresNoSecondBest

Not a FUD MEXC https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/mexc-investigates-complaints-from-users-alleging-frozen-funds/ar-AA1WT8jt https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/s/oF7npsPEIN

OMGArianaGrande

Clearly a fictitious unnecessary FUD/engagement post.

ThreeTonChonker

This sub = FUD city in a bear market. It’s hilarious how the mods are obviously complicit in all of this. Ban a couple of these bot accounts that are pushing this FUD and we could have some real discussions. But clearly the plan is to muddy the waters.

TattooedCFO

Correct. We are in the part of a price cycle where the sky is falling and buyers who bought the last top (probably on leverage) and experienced losses are just taking their frustration out on the internet by spreading FUD. Couple that with the click bait designed to leverage that frustration and here we are! Truth… Institutions are accumulating… and massive volumes are being taken off exchanges. That’s long positions being established. My expectation… BTC will trade sideways for the next 6-12 months. Traders will push it up and down a few points in the meantime to get theirs… My Takeaway… Everyone who sees value in BTC should be DCAing right now. 2027 is going to be the next leg up.

Serenaded

Ethereum these last few months is looking far more bullish long-term than Bitcoin is. Bitcoin has nuclear FUD with the quantum computing, I think it's basically over. We always knew Bitcoin was the first but won't be the last. Last cycle was weird with all the $$$ pumping into BTC but QC is going to fuck all of that. It's clear that elites are eyeing Ethereum as the next giga-pump.

Affectionate_Pen6882

Its just FUD

whybethisguy

More FUD please. I don't think it's anytime soon, but the day BTC decides to take off again will be glorious.

SyndicateIllusions

Quantum will help encrypt crypto further. Way before quantum will be able to decrypt. Decrety takes more time and energy. It's all FUD. Open your eyes

voluntarygang

Lot's of downvoting going on. Maybe someone using bots to promote their short position.. Pay attention to the FUD people. Don't get fooled.

Icy_Sign_908

Bitcoin going to zero is FUD but so is it going to a million. 1.33 trillion market cap is real. The 50% correction is normal volatility. What matters is adoption and use case. Institutions are loading. Governments are hedging. It's not going to zero and it's not guaranteed to moon. Just hold your position and stop listening to extremes

LiveSlay

Ignore the noise. Ignore the FUD. BTC is here to stay. Think long term and keep buying at set intervals irrespective of the price.

Glass-Touch7228

FUD alert!

theincognito66

If you didn't sell at 120k, why would you sell around 60k... I've only been throwing in $50 buys at a time these days. Got a couple limit buys set that we haven't reached yet... got close to one last hour. But since I've been stacking since 2020, I'm still in the green overall at this level. Enjoy the ride... FUD turns into FOMO quickly... or the US is going to bomb Iran in a couple days and we'll go below 55k. Exciting times!

LakeEffekt

I’m convinced this is collaborated and largely not drive lm by ‘the powers that be’. Every channel has very consistent and determined FUD lately questioning the fundamental premise of bitcoin. Try to convince me otherwise, but I think you know what I mean if you’ve been paying attention. I’ve never seen it quite like this

CitadelChad

Bitcoin isn't going to zero. It's being purposefully manipulated to maximize FUD, get people to give up, and allow the institutions to buy low and sell high. The whole time Bitcoin was not well known, Bitcoiners would say that this is the first time that retail gets to front-run the institutions. What do the institutions do with IPOs? They dump on the retail investor. Why? Because they bought really low initially. So what do you think the institutions will do if they don't get the chance to buy really low? Buy high? No. They will tank the price. In order to buy low. This is exactly what the Rothschild bankers did when they found out that Napoleon lost against the English.

Middle_Heat_8985

When the FUD is the worst, the bottom is in… Bitcoin to 80k by end of March. 150k by end of October. Just watch.

Middle_Heat_8985

When the FUD is the worst, the bottom is in… Bitcoin to 80k by end of March. 150k by end of October. Just watch.

Spaceseeds

Then the difficulty adjusts you FUD bot. Go home to buttcoin

NotMyMainLoLzy

Every time I get ready to sell XRP, I see a FUD post and don’t. Then, the price goes up within 2 weeks. What a mysterious coincidence.

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SlinkiusMaximus

We need another bear market and wave of FUD before I buy next

jacestrachan

This account will still be here lol and this post will age like milk just like the rest of the FUD for the past 16 years

Happy_Being_1203

Stop spreading FUD on ETH - Tom Lee

Money_Software_1229

There is a quantum FUD being spread lately. It could happen it's not a FUD but reality.

hodler1992

The more FUD the more confident I am that this is a very good time to accumulate.

kaedoge

This whole post is a bunch of FUD. Crypto is just getting started

harvested

Sentiment and FUD are sufficient to shake people out

Disastrous_Rent_6500

Not really a risk, governments around the world were aware of this risk a decade ago. As a result, alot of the internet itself is already quantum proof. Bitcoin is no exception to this fact. For bitcoin, there’s even more solutions I think. It’s all just FUD at this point.

Historical_Floor_82

More people know about crypto now. I assure you, people are buying. It isn’t going anywhere. It’s just more people and FUD, doesn’t mean anything.

Left_Opportunity6597

Duuuude this is pure FUD, maybe i would believe this also before Ivan called the tops in Bitcoin and Silver so perfectly I honestly want to defend Ivan just as a thank you for saving me Literally one of the best crypto youtubers (i watch only Ivan on Tech and Benjamin Cowen now)

ash893

This is not the end. People have been saying Bitcoin was dead every single bear market and it never died. China bans it, quantum FUD, and etc, same old FUD tactic to get the retail to sell it.

discoltk

It's like saying why don't the Native Americans just admit that the European way of life is better since they were either killed or forced to live on the worst land in reservations. (Though in your "bcash" vernacular I suppose you'd insist on calling them redskins.) Declaring climate change worries as FUD because we're not all underwater yet is similarly dismissive and ignorant. Bitcoin itself has lost a ton of momentum due to failure to realize it's purpose. Bitcoin Cash was unable to save BTC from itself, certainly with brain-dead trolls who never created anything in the space joining in on the hate and censorship that took place here. You don't seem very bright, and are a troll, so I'll leave you here.

norfbayboy

> 10 years ago you could buy games on Steam, buy PC parts on Newegg, buy a laptop from Dell, shop with Microsoft, all using Bitcoin directly. So how come none of these companies accept bcash today? Big blocks made "simple payments" *tenable* again right? Bcash has had a decade to prove small blocks were *the* obstacle to mass adoption between Satoshi leaving and bcash forking. Maybe it's time for big blockers to admit they were wrong all along and apologize for all the drama and damage they caused with thier FUD.

MoneyEnd1499

Trading bots are great for beginners because cutting out emotional decisions like FOMO or FUD. I use grid bots on BYDFi to automate my trades within a set range. It helps keep the strategy consistent .

TheresNoSecondBest

>For those who went through something similar, what actually helped you move forward Education helps a lot. It at least worked for me, and my first bear run. Understanding what Bitcoin is, the problems it's fixing and why shitcoins, FUD and charts are just a noise. Start with **Lyn Alden's Broken Money and The Bitcoin Standard**. Keep learning, keep stacking, no shitcoins, no leverage, no trading. DCA & HODL is the name of the game.

meandjarvis

It is exactly my mindset change. Started to DCA in mid 2024, I remember back then the price was about $58k, I was - 1. checking the price constantly. 2. selling at $67k. 3. mood went down when the price drops to $53k. Then I started to get my mind under control and kept DCAing. Fast forward to today, almost 2 years later - 1. I have a decent bitcoin portfolio, definitely invested more than if it was just a few bets on bitcoin. 2. even with the weak bitcoin performance in the past few months (many even think it's bear market now), am still well above the water, indicating the power of DCA and HODL. 3. During the process, I've learned how to ignore FUD and all the noise. I've been listening to some imo good sources that help me keep faith in BTC and my DCA strategy. And recently, I noticed that I even started to ignore these positive sources too... it's like am in monk mode, all the up and downs, good and bad, am watching, observing, experiencing, with calmness. 4. Maybe I will sell a little at some point but am sure I will DCA more. My portfolio consists of BTC, gold, S&P 500 and cash, and I consider this portfolio to be my retirement fund and even pass to my kid so I am in absolutely no rush. BTW, recently I've been thinking about buying an ETF that consists of top tier non-US equities. Any recommendation?

blvrg

Yeah, this is totally normal and almost every long-term holder goes through it. The first cycle is emotional chaos, by the second or third you barely flinch at 20-30% drops. It’s not that you stop caring, you just develop conviction through experience. You’ve seen the FUD, the “Bitcoin is dead” headlines, the 80% drawdowns — and it always came back stronger. What really helped me was zooming out and understanding where we are in the bigger picture. Take a look at [timetobuybitcoin.com](https://timetobuybitcoin.com) that puts things into perspective with long-term cycle data. Once you see the macro view, the daily noise just stops mattering.

meandjarvis

Been DCA since mid 2024, not only my average price is not too shabby, I also get to stay clam through turbulence. Recently I also found that not only I have been ignoring FUD long time ago, I also started to ignore the good news (those create FOMO). Guess am in monk mode, just buy and hold without giving any F about anything.

Alone_Pizza_371

We hear this pessimistic banter every year when the market is down. We all know how volatile the market is, but it always goes back up when least expected. Sure it may seem like a casino, but only when you want a quick buck. Challenge: read up on what Warren Buffett says about the patient and impatient. You will lose every time in that mindset. FUD on!

JimTheEarthling

>In 2026, it is the single most common way Bitcoiners get wiped out. This is inaccurate spam FUD trying to attract subscribers. SIM swaps represent less than 1% of cyber attacks. If you're worried about your crypto, you should be taking much more important steps such as securing your accounts with 2FA, learning how to avoid phishing, never downloading cracked software or sideloading phone apps, etc. And turning on SIM swap protection at your phone service. The [Microsoft Digital Defense Report](https://cdn-dynmedia-1.microsoft.com/is/content/microsoftcorp/microsoft/final/en-us/microsoft-brand/documents/Microsoft%20Digital%20Defense%20Report%202024%20%281%29.pdf#page=42) states that less than one-third of one percent of identity attacks use SIM swapping (compared to 99 percent for [breach replay](https://demystified.info/security.html#sec5.1.1), [password spray](https://demystified.info/security.html#sec5.1.2), and [phishing](https://demystified.info/security.html#sec5.3)). In 2023, the FBI’s Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) received [1,075 reports of SIM swapping](https://www.ic3.gov/AnnualReport/Reports/2023_IC3Report.pdf). This is less than 0.2 percent of the 880,000 complaints the IC3 received about Internet crimes such as phishing/spoofing (43 percent), data breach (8 percent), and identity theft (3 percent). It represents only 0.0003 percent of the 311 million mobile phones in the US. That’s one in 3 million. Even if only 5 percent of SIM swaps were reported to the FBI, that’s still only a tiny one-in-15,000 chance (0.0065%) that you might be the victim of a SIM swap. In 2024, SIM swap reports to IC3 went down to 982, so the odds got even smaller. SIM swap reports to the [UK National Fraud Database](https://www.cifas.org.uk/newsroom/huge-surge-see-sim-swaps-hit-telco-and-mobile) rose over 1,000 percent from 2023 to 2024, but the 2,760 reported cases represent less than one percent of all fraud reports and affected less than 0.02 percent of the roughly 85 million mobile phones in the UK.

Taraih

You cant persuade the same morons on reddit that keep posting this FUD. Truth is since the previous bear market lows XRP was one of the best performers in the top20 category.

Toyake

Right, so like I said in my OP, this FUD has broke boys going to bat for billionaires. If $500k is suspicious, it’ll get flagged, if it’s not (it’s still logged) then it’s seen as a regular occurrence, aka rich boi. I’m not believing the “what if regular people got caught in the net for rich people” aspect when it comes to millions and billions of dollars.

SwedishHero82

You are now in the FUD phase. Soon, you will be in the FOMO phase. Then, eventually, as God has decided a million years ago, you will enter the FAFO phase, eventually understanding the true meaning of words like REKT and REGARDED.

BacchusAndHamsa

not b.s. but timeline is uncertain. I never short or leverage. FUD here? Wouldn't affect the price of anything, that's a delusional view, just small fry here.

ShittingOutPosts

Oh man. You can type as much as you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how all of this works. And how arrogant do you have to be to think you somehow discovered the fatal flaw in Bitcoin that thousands of cryptographers, economists, and engineers somehow missed for 15+ years? Like they say, Bitcoin is the ultimate ego test…and, not to sound mean, but you’ve failed spectacularly. Your whole argument collapses because you mix up miner profit, difficulty, and network security like they’re the same thing. They aren’t. Security =\= miner profit margins. Bitcoin’s security comes from how expensive it is to acquire and sustain majority hashpower, not from whether miners feel rich or poor this year. If honest miners are near break-even, an attacker is also near break-even, except the attacker gets no block rewards, no fees, burns capex on ASICs that get flagged or stranded, and trashes the value of the asset they’re attacking, and is left controlling a chain that is no longer considered the real Bitcoin. A big congrats to them. There is no free attack unlocked by halvings. That is a major part of why the incentive structure is so genius. Bad actors are better off simply contributing to the network versus spending billions, if not trillions of dollars attacking it, just to be left with literally nothing. Difficulty is more of a thermostat, not the security budget. You are correct, when miners leave, difficulty drops. However, the remaining miners earn more per unit of hash. Miners then come back until marginal cost is roughly equal to marginal revenue again. The protocol automatically rebalances. Security tracks the total real-world spend pointed at the chain, not the difficulty number itself. Lower difficulty does not mean “cheaper to attack” in the way you’re implying. The attack cost still scales with the total honest spend. The “security goes to zero unless BTC hits $1 quadrillion” take is just bad math. Security budget = (block subsidy + fees) × BTC price. You’re assuming fees stay trivial forever and adoption doesn’t increase demand for blockspace over decades. That’s not only an entire bet against Bitcoin, but it’s not an argument, it’s a prediction disguised as inevitability. At the end of the day, hashrate isn’t vibes. You don’t need to know every miner’s power bill to know that more deployed hashpower means more real energy and capex defending the chain. Hardware efficiency improving doesn’t reduce security; it means the same security can be achieved with less energy, or more security for the same spend. The attack cost still scales with the honest network’s total expenditure. The “governments will attack at a loss” scenario doesn’t get cheaper with halvings. A state actor can burn money to disrupt anything at any time. That’s not a Bitcoin-specific flaw, it’s true for undersea cables, satellites, DNS, banks, and power grids. Bitcoin’s design just makes the cost visible and continuous instead of hidden and political. Ultimately, halvings compress margins, they don’t nullify incentives. Difficulty doesn’t cause security to collapse. And the idea that Bitcoin security is mathematically doomed unless price goes to a quadrillion is a category error and confuses who gets paid with how expensive it is to attack the system. If this model were correct, Bitcoin security should already be imploding right now. I know we’re down from $125k, but even $65k is far from an implosion. That is, unless you’re brand new to Bitcoin, in which case not only would your misunderstandings make perfect sense, but I would understand how it could make you feel scared. Please read The Bitcoin Standard written by Saifedean Ammous. All of this is covered. It’s a great place to start learning about Bitcoin without being confused by the FUD and influenced by the persistent negative narratives.

Wang_King8

I have been around for a few years now and these moments when FUD is everywhere is usually a good time to lump sum a bit. Always dca but had to go a little agressove now. I like my odds. Soon 10coins lets f go!!!

brtastic

Every cycle has its own FUD. This cycle it's Epstein and quantum, it seems. It will end just like it did in previous cycles, see you in 2028.

Nagemasu

> Just remember, FUD is how you're feeling, not what's reality. The FUD is in your head. Stop focusing on bitcoin and it's price and you'll stop feeling anything until you see it mentioned in the news in 3 years because the price is back near ATH and people have fomo

SaylorOfEntropy

Zoom out. Every cycle we get macro panic. Rates. Wars. Liquidity scares. Headlines. And every cycle, Bitcoin does the same thing it has done since inception. Halving. Supply shock. Expansion. Blow off. Compression. Accumulation. Repeat. Bottoms have historically formed about 12 to 18 months after the cycle peak. Recoveries from bottom to new highs have taken roughly 18 to 24 months. Not because of hype. Because supply issuance gets cut in half every four years while adoption trends upward. The 200 day moving average is the long term equilibrium line. When price holds above it, structure remains intact. The 50 day reflects short term momentum. When it reclaims upward slope after compression, expansion resumes. These are not memes. They are statistical reflections of capital flow against a fixed supply curve. What does any of this have to do with Bitcoin? Everything. Macro FUD is turbulence. Bitcoin is engineered scarcity with a 21 million terminal supply. The rules do not change. The issuance does not change. The network does not care about headlines. Maintain the thesis. Respect the cycle. Ignore the noise.

DRAGULA85

I agree. Sick of these chart boys. Wish I could shut out all this FUD

ObjectiveJackfruit35

This is why I completely disregard any bitcoin FUD posted by Redditors.

Therighttodo

Proof? Evidence? Sources? I haven’t seen any, so yeah, just FUD.

NilNow

Well that’s a FUD i haven’t seen before…please tell me this isn’t what’s keeping you up at night

CapitalIncome845

Panicking? Source? **FUD**

CapitalIncome845

But it is his money. He's the largest shareholder. Get that FUD out of your head.

Strong-Barnacle-3288

Just remember guys- can’t stop buying. We’re in this cult together. Anything else is FUD!

Great-Occasion3932

Everyone loves these hindsight millionaire fantasies. “If you invested $50 every time Bitcoin was declared dead, you’d have $40 million.” Yeah… and if you perfectly timed every market bottom in history, you’d also be a billionaire. The part people conveniently ignore? You would’ve had to buy during crashes of -70%, -80%, -90%… while media, governments, and “experts” were calling it over. Most people can’t psychologically handle that. They sell. They panic. They disappear. Survival > timing. Bitcoin isn’t impressive because of the math fantasy. It’s impressive because it keeps surviving coordinated attacks, bans, exchange collapses, FUD cycles, and still makes new highs. But let’s be honest too — past performance doesn’t guarantee infinite upside. The bigger an asset gets, the harder 100x becomes. The real takeaway isn’t “we’d all be rich.” It’s this: Conviction during chaos is what creates asymmetric outcomes. Most people don’t lack intelligence. They lack emotional durability. That’s the uncomfortable truth.

SpendHefty6066

Just remember, FUD is directed at weak hands. They want your coins. They are coming for your coins. Get your coins into air-gapped cold storage. Do not trust any exchange no matter how public, established, or too big to fail you think they are.

Coreantes

Well, international media much more, but so much of it is FUD. Like, it's been in the works for years, none of the parties, ESPECIALLY the current administration JUST INSTALLED (actually next week!) isn't happy about it and everyone says it's most likely going to change before it's even implemented. So, you COULD ask the question: how is this such a massive topic by Reddit standards there's posts about it daily, while the real situation is actually barely newsworthy? Sidenote: I'm also not happy if this was actually the situation for the unforeseeable future, but here we are. We voted, and those parties don't want this. I expect them to change (if the Belastingdienst can actually get their act together).

ThreeTonChonker

Every post about Saylor there’s at least 6-8 bot comments all bringing up FUD about MSTR within minutes of the thread being posted. Most threads in this sub get a couple comments at most. It’s fascinating watching this propaganda campaign.

GPThought

the fact that saylor even has to address this scenario tells you how much FUD is floating around. their average cost basis is around 24k and they have no forced liquidation triggers. a crash to 8k would mean btc lost 88%% from ATH which has literally never happened in its history. the real risk isnt strategy blowing up — its people selling their btc at the bottom because they believed doomsday scenarios like this

Original-Assistant-8

It is an issue for all systems using ECDSA, not just bitcoin. BUT that doesn't mean we can avoid it. Which is why Saylor is finally acknowledging it and looking to help, rather than deflect and dismiss as FUD like he used to. My guess is ETFs said this needs to be addressed. So that's good- while that is being sorted out, think about the market for making this transition to Post Quantum Cryptography for systems across the globe. A major undertaking. Qanplatform has tapped into this- already lining up enterprise adoption ahead of its public launch. This growth does not depend on bitcoin struggles- in fact I think it will gain more adoption if bitcoin stays strong. So, I'm all for bitcoin addressing this problem. Others are hoping to "replace" bitcoin, which simply isn't going to happen.

LakeEffekt

Bad, silly take. You’re basically positing: if you bought at the absolute worst times (highest) and sold at the absolute lowest, it hasn’t been as good at QQQ. So if you’re totally brain dead, maybe the two are comparable. For anyone with a pulse, they’ve made much better returns. But keep making up hypothetical scenarios and spreading FUD, you sound super smart 😂

Flat-House5529

Man, people are even farming out FUD to AI. Talk about a dead fucking internet.

Green-Experience420

This is FUD. It is a 36% tax on assumed profit which is about 5-7%. Even if you make a 300% profit you pay just the basic amount that they assume. Not bad really.

Wang_King8

FUD happends because people get their financial advice from twitter and youtube shorts. Braindead

TheRadishBros

It’s because the FUD is coming from the individuals, while the orgs/govts remain quiet.

Substantial_Ad_2116

Yeah I don't understand how the FUD keeps working when literal countries are holding and beginning to buy x.x

jmomentum

This is the glaring siren to me. Why isn't anyone else copying the Saylor 'playbook'? Is it because he has such an insurmountable lead that they are disincentivized to essentially pump MSTR with large bitcoin purchases? I also see this as a potential problem for Bitcoin. And not for all the MSTR solvency FUD. Quite the opposite.

wangshimeng1980

Haha, fair enough. The 'institutional takeover' vibe is definitely strong lately. That’s exactly why I prefer staying on the data side of things. Whether BlackRock wins or not, they’ll still be burning gas on the chain. That’s actually why I built my own tracker—I’d rather watch the raw network 'pulse' than listen to the hype or the FUD. Staying on the sidelines is a valid strategy, but if you do decide to jump back into the trenches, just make sure you aren't overpaying for the privilege! Good luck out there.

LakeEffekt

Totally agree. A lot is manufactured FUD and bot accounts

R4ID

> They wrote themselves a multibillion dollar cheque that users would pay for, while other cryptocurrency did not. They created a brand new solution to the doublespend problem, spent years developing, funding, coding and testing/producing a working product and its value was 0$ when they received it. >You're fine with that great, I'm not your just FUDing lol. > You can stop with the FUD and cryptobro lingo. I will continue to stay away from coins I don't like the structure of. im not telling you to buy it, im telling you you're understanding of it is wrong/lacking. >You could maybe not take it so personally? factually correct information =/= taking something personally. It's not your coin, you have nothing to do with it. Again you came here, spouted lies, got corrected and continued to spout lies. > I do not. have you considered moving to china or cuba? im not sure in what world you're not ok with the creator of something making the most from it. > I'm sorry you feel me calling it a shitcoin might hurt your profits, but it is to me garbage that was invented to make it's creators rich. Again invented to solve the double spend problem without mining (you can google the 2011 btctalk forum thread) >They specifically marketed it towards institutions unlike real crypto which is intended to be outside of institutions and institutional control. they specifically marketed to wards people in the beginning actually (which is why they gave it away for free to people) the pivot to an institutional settlement system only came later.. like MUCH later. So you're just wrong again about its origin (go figure) Also it doesnt give institutions control, it actually takes it away from the "old guard" and levels the playing field for everyone. but you wouldnt know that because you dont know how it works

TvAGhost

Theres even bots or AI posting insane FUD every day it's kind of giving desperation vibes. Like why do they want us selling so badly.

Chilln665

Not pacification. Just instilling some more rational thinking as influencers and market makers spread FUD

Substantial_Ad_2116

The 'but the only value is scarcity' FUD is wild. There are so many valuable use-cases.

global_hodl

If you had a quantum computer that could crack bitcoin what would you attack first - banks or bitcoin. People like to spread FUD to get attention when the price action is to the downside. I wouldn’t trust what Willy Woo has to say

372xpg

They wrote themselves a multibillion dollar cheque that users would pay for, while other cryptocurrency did not. You're fine with that great, I'm not, AND that's my threshold where I call a crypto a shitcoin. You can stop with the FUD and cryptobro lingo. I will continue to stay away from coins I don't like the structure of. You could maybe not take it so personally? It's not your coin, you have nothing to do with it. You made a ton of money that's great, and if you believe the founders deserve billions of dollars then great. I do not. I'm sorry you feel me calling it a shitcoin might hurt your profits, but it is to me garbage that was invented to make it's creators rich. They specifically marketed it towards institutions unlike real crypto which is intended to be outside of institutions and institutional control.

R4ID

>Ok so if they didn't retain 20 billion personally and 80 billion xrp to run the company They didnt own the 80 billion and never have. you started off lying with "the creators gave themselves half of the coins at inception" now after I hand you the answer on a silver platter knowing ur going to create FUD with it and here you come back with FUD just like I said you would. Again I asked you to read the founders agreement, and you claimed you did yet you still think they kept the 80 billion for themselves, which tells me you didnt actually read it or at least understand it. >with various contracts and escrows then please explain what they did do rather than just saying I don't know. The Time Locked escrows didnt exist on their funds until Dec 2017, a full 5 years later. The timelocked feature for the XRPL didnt begin development until March-May of 2016 IIRC (its somewhere around there that their fund intentions and feature development began I dont have time to dig up the old announcement im sure its still able to be searched on google if you want to read it) >I know some things have changed and I can't be assed to follow a shitcoin to find out what has changed but that was the original setup. You came here as a dishonest participant in discussion to spread FUD, you have only continued to do so even when handed the answer on a silver platter. Stop crying wolf when people dont engage with you on your terms when ur showing you're not here to discuss in good faith. you keep calling it a shitcoin yet you dont know anything about it apparently. The hubris or stupidity to do so is paradoxical >An escrow that limits the timing of release of coins in their control doesn't change the fact that they are in their control. They aren't in the founders control, and prior to Dec 2017, there were no escrows. Prior to the Dec 2017 escrows the company could of sold any amount at any time, they chose to lock their own funds up in good faith. They posted ther intentions to do so publicly in their quarterly reports for almost a full year prior to doing the move(again I could go dig up those reports but you're not here to discuss in good faith so I wont bother) The founders never had control over the 80 billion XRP. in fact technically you had just as much control as them over the funds. The private key to the genesis wallet is in the public code base, anyone could of taken any amount that they wanted. it was a 100% premine. At the time many famous people took from the genesis wallet, (ex Kraken CEO Jesse, Roger Ver) to name a few. Not only that but they used a very well known private key for the genesis wallet. https://github.com/XRPLF/rippled/blob/ffd453f7dd091b0499fd6ab964880c8268deead4/src/ripple/app/misc/NetworkOPs.cpp#L852-L854 The crypto community from 2012 was tiny, like I mean not even a fraction of a fraction of what it is today. It was also A very different mindset because at the time Opencoin(later Ripple) was simply trying to Solve the doublespend problem without mining. They were working/testing to create a new consensus method. They then later gave the XRP that they got away for free to anyone on the forums with an account. I'm pretty sure if you google "BTCtalk forum ripple giveaway" you'll still find their old post where they gave it away to everyone on that forum that had an account registered prior to the announcement. You can also find XRP's early development on that same forum by Jed by googling "bitcoin without mining, BTC talk forum" which was happening in 2011 IIRC. >Do you dispute that they retained a massive amount of the coins in circulation? 20% split between 4 founders who put in all the work, development, time and resources doesn't seem "massive" to me because at the time it was worth 0$. For you as someone who took no part in development, funds, time or resources to criticize their decision for their project is actually insane. Especially if you look at how much they hold today. Like the "founders took half the supply" is such a dead issue in today's world. Jeds wallet is empty (google XRPL tacostand wallet) David took nothing from initial distribution (because he feared the US Gov wouldnt be happy about them "making currencies") so there's half the founders instantly not being a factor in ur "issue" Britto took 2% 2012, and who knows how much he has sold since then. and Larson took the rest. and he as a bunch still but again, he put in the most time, resources, effort, funding etc. Should the founders of something not receive the greatest benefit?

Fit_Economics2585

imagine telling someone in 2021 that "he fell for the epstein FUD" will be a real thing

JeremyLinForever

Willy Woo is a trader, not a HODLer. He will spread FUD to close his short position on a profit if he needs to.

zeeshiscanning

Just another bear market FUD. Stay humble, stack sats 🫡

R4ID

> Oh sorry, I made the mistake and must have gotten it's coin cap mistaken with another garbage coin. "another garbage coin" lol >However it stands the creators gave themselves half of the coins at inception and strangely people like you that read what I read still bought in. >Do better You actually have this incorrect as well. I dont want to help you create more FUD because you very clearly dont know what you're talking about once again but the creators of XRP did not give themselves 50% of supply. You REALLY REALLY need to learn to at least attempt to learn the topic before posting nonsense. if you're confused, go ahead and google "XRP founders agreement . pdf" Initial distribution is and has been public the entire time.

Cautious-Lecture-858

He started calling for the apocalypse right after the GFC. It’s been 15 years of constant FUD while he makes billions off rising stock prices and selling books saying stocks are gonna tank.

hindermore

Let the bots FUD. Some of us would love to see 40k.

Substantial_Ad_2116

The FUD is failing.  Adoption is beginning to accelerate. 

TheresNoSecondBest

HODL & DCA is what always worked for me. Reading a good, usually Bitcoin related book, helps with the FUD.

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Richard-Turd

I’m buying because crypto FUD is and has been sub 10. I’ll stop buying when it’s back in the green.

No-Masterpiece2246

The scaling FUD never ends. As if BTC ever scaled? XMR current;y has 200x the capacity of BTC. FCMP can reduce the capacity but it'll still be 50x that of BTC.