FUD

Pinewatch762

That’s fine. Bear markets are when you accumulate and not worry about FOMO and FUD. I’ve already held for 9 years so

choicehunter

Brutal? Mute like rewarding. I thought it was awesome! More affordable SATs for those who aren't swayed by emotion/FUD and understand the fundamentals are a solid foundation. I kind of wish we could have a 2022 repeat.

maria_la_guerta

Dude this place has been anti SOL for years while it continues to climb in both usage and value. Let them backslap each other over the same tired FUD.

-Psychonautics-

So why are you spreading FUD rumors?

420osrs

I'm going to give you a controversial answer. Keep an emergency fund worth six months of expenses in cash.  The reason why is one day your car will shit the bed. You need to get it repaired or replaced with a sensible used one now. Not tomorrow. Not by paycheck.  And at that time Bitcoin will have whatever FUD has been running on it that week and it'll be down 25% from ATH.  You will sell BTC and within a week BTC will hit a new ATH.  Or you will borrow against your stack and get liquidated because BTC took a fat shit due to some BTC treasury company flooding the market because they can't make their debt payments.  Or you have a emergency fund that gets tapped and you are in a healthy situation to keep stacking. Sustainable stacking never selling never getting liquidated is the name of the game. 

Medium_Change4574

No way I trust a FUD snorter. Alt szn.

SnowImportant4517

I did some research into the FUD about bitcoin farms migrating to AI workloads and that's just not that easy to retrofit the kind of equipment needed for AI into the kind of places used for mining rigs, it's not just electricity costs, however I see some mid size farms having trouble to make a profit, a 30k rig can barely make a 5k ROI a year, everyone serious about btc should run their node, their hashrate and verify their own transactions, we cannot trust these corpo mining pools, who knows when they might flip on us...

SolventAssetsGone

Yes, this is essentially the idea. Government actor who prints fiat and can affect policy to disrupt mining. A massive crunch on transactions leading to a huge spike followed by FUD to cause lost of trust. Truly the system is resilient and would adjust eventually, I acknowledge this.

Sad-Crow1890

Diversification is good. Digital assets are here to stay- so says the us gov, most major banks and financial institutions and the European bank. The major crypto top 10 are all being used and seem to have a bright future. XRP is being used in anger. Despite FUD it works and 50% of it is in escrow for the one of the fastest growing financial companies in the world who have openly committed to its use. I can see why your parents made that call. Take what you want from this but I for one wouldn’t be that concerned. I mean the froth this year (10x ish). Could easily be repeated based market cap and a small slice of future use.

Django_McFly

Quantum is going to wreck so much. Not because it has to, but because people think that doing any preparation is just "FUD" and they'll always push it back. It won't be taken seriously until systems are actively being compromised.

Elegant_Shoulder_481

Literally everyone, because you're selling. Show me where the FUD touched you, sweet child.

Putrid_Pollution3455

I joined this sub to help me remain calm during winter but I see an alarming amount of FUD and gay bears. I suddenly feel like the maxi here and I’m not even a maxi 😂

Head-End-5909

FOMO in FUD out. Chillax! 😎

Head-End-5909

😱 Oh FUD!

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

RamoneBolivarSanchez

The amount of FUD is wild lol, we’re really cross posting /Buttcoin to /Bitcoin and trying to rally support? If you topblasted BTC at $125k just say so, but until it stops working or someone double spends - I would say the network is working perfectly fine and as anticipated

Able-Upstairs-9875

Going all in on BTC has made me a fiat millionaire (on paper) so I’m not complaining. Diversifying is for preserving wealth not building it. After 100’s of hours of research I sleep easy at night with all my eggs in the BTC basket. 😴 There is always FUD but as long as the network keeps working we have little to worry about. Tick tick next block. I really hope we get another big correction under one hundred K so I can accumulate more. 🤤

Ir0nman123

The FUD is getting bad… Altseason must be close.

biba8163

Vechain was launched in Nov 2016, basically a failed startup with zero customers and zero revenue. With 2017 came the Bitcoin crypto boom, lots of hype, lots of ICOs raking in money. Vechain decided to do an ICO and also grab dumb investor money with lots of hype as an enterprise supply chain project. ~8 years ago in May 2018, I got downvoted for calling this scam out and was called *"regarded"* and *"Can't tell if you're trolling or just stupid."* VEN/VET was $4.1 that day or $0.041 with the change in token denomination. VET is $0.016 today. An investment of $8K in BTC then would be $110K today whereas an investment of $8K in VET would be $3,000. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8k1xzb/daily_discussion_megathread_may_17_2018_at_1200am/dz586oa/ ~6 years ago in March 2020, I wrote a long writeup as to why Vechain was a scam. It had been 2+ years of these scammers hyping up *"trillions of transactions,"* coming, partnering with everyone under the sun, the CEO himself claiming to be buying as much VET as he could, etc. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/fn9zx2/discussion_of_the_day_vechain_vet/fl8q5it/ My comment above promoted a multi-part writeup by Vechain bagholders to respond to and debunk the FUD and people who fell for this scam calling me a paid FUDDer > Biba does this with a ton of projects. He’s very likely hired to do this. He’s an absolutely insufferable nut job > my first post I point out how he does this for every project...whether he does it personally because he has some serious issue or if he's paid off, he or some group are afraid of these projects becoming successful (or possibly FUDing to scare others off while they buy). https://np.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/fnixhq/daily_vechain_discussion_march_23_2020/flbjyf1/

Reedey

I only sell when I start losing sleep over it. I've been holding since 2013 so I have a better stomach for the ups and downs than most. I have been through all the FUD for 12 years, but the cultural rot that Core are bringing to the table is a new type of threat that we really need to chase out of town.

DRAGULA85

It’s a lot faster for quantum computing to hack into normal fiat 4 digit bank accounts before they target the 24 word Bitcoin addresses The software nerds will think of quantum protection in the meantime? Maybe 100 word seed phrase? Dunno Ignore the FUD, stack sats

Striking-Parsnip-588

This needs to be more well known. There is reason to be wary of QC, but if you practice good hygiene and move all of your bitcoin to a new wallet after exposing your public key, you’re good. Would help quash a lot of the FUD on this topic.

MaeronTargaryen

No. One mod had 1M moons, and he got most of them by posting memes before the karma cap was voted, not from the mod distribution. And he couldn’t have gotten a million DOLLARS from it, because moons never got to $1 It does matter, it’s not like mods decided to keep the money to themselves or something. It was a Reddit thing. I’m guessing it was so mods would have a bigger impact on governance so the sub doesn’t get mismanaged with bad governance, who knows Yes, WAS. Being so hung up on things two years later is pathetic tbh Your last two points are disinformation. You are clearly acting in bad faith. I’ve looked at your mod log, most of your removed comments were because you mentioned mods, and most of the were manually approved afterwards (the bot had removed them not humans). Oh and you were never banned. So I’m guessing that this is an alt account circumventing a ban since you said you were previously banned. This is grounds for a perm ban usually… It’s clear that you’re just a moon hater, you have been for years. It’s fine. Just don’t spread anymore disinformation, at some point you will get a ban. I don’t care if you use it to play victim even more, constant FUD is not allowed, period. Shit on moons and mods if you want but stay factual, with actual facts rather than whatever bullshit fitting your narrative.

MaeronTargaryen

And? I addressed that too and it doesn’t change that you said a blatant lie when you talked about millionaires. Don’t move the goalposts now It was also Reddit’s decision to give Moons directly to moderators. Since then some have sold, so not all the biggest whales are mods, or some were not mods during the Reddit days and earned and/or bought their moons as regular users Yes some mods frontran the announcement using insider info. And they’ve been removed from the team immediately after. That’s old history and the fact it’s still being brought up is ridiculous as they have nothing to do with the current team. Seeing that your comments are in such bad faith and blatant disinformation then I’m guessing that your comments were removed because that’s against the rules. FUD isn’t allowed on the sub so if you go around raising non existent issues just to stir the pot then yes you might face consequences

BainTrain55

75%+ in 9 weeks? With zero catalyst in sight? I think FUD is coming for sailor.

TheBigLR901

They've changed their tune because now they are bought in. Their FUD early on didn't take.

SonofAnarchy1973

This post wasn’t meent to create FUD, this is purely informative, I have no doubt things are gonna take off… I have thirty somewhat years left in me so I have time😉

NotMyMainLoLzy

One thing that’s held true over the last ten months. Every XRP FUD thread indicates a small or large breakout. Let’s check if it happens again.

Captain_Planet

Late 2013 hodler here. I had sod all money but made a bit on the side on ebay which I decided to put into Bitcoin rather than seeing it disappear into my overdraft. Second best decision of my life. I read about it in 2012 or 2013, looked into mining, seemed complicated so forgot about it for a while, then when the bull run started it got mainstream coverage (yes you did hear the name Bitcoin in 2013) I FOMO'd in near the top. Best decision of my life was looking at the 75% crash and thinking, well it has done this before, it hasn't been "hacked" as was the FUD of the time so I bought more - that one was the best decision! If I'd had money at the time I'd have bought a lot, lot more, but that is the privilege of being rich, it is easy to get richer.

Adventurous-Cut-1287

It was harder to hold 21 BTC back then due to FUD. Harder than it is to hold now. It went from $700 to 4k to 20k and back down to 3k months later. You had to have balls of steel and many sold along the way now swimming in regret. Low time preference is the key.

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Leading_Confection32

You made all of those conclusions not me. BTC is not the stock market. It’s way better. It trades 24/7 and is more liquid. Most financial instruments trade up and down with each other doesn’t mean when TLSA tanks an earnings BTC or META drops . BUT!!!! When BTC drops over the weekend you can guarantee the market will trade down. So maybe it’s the market that trades with BTC and not the other way around? Don’t put words in people’s mouths. You draw your own conclusions and bring them to light in your comments. Dont project your opinions about me as my opinions. You’re just spreading FUD about me in an attempt to boost your argument, which isn’t that strong.

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Historical patterns suggest 2-4 week timeline before large-cap phase. --- ### The Unlock Advantage (Underappreciated) **VIRTUAL: 100% of 1B supply circulating** Most alts face scheduled unlock events causing -20-40% drawdowns as locked supply hits markets. VIRTUAL eliminated this structural risk entirely. **What this means:** - No unlock FUD - No surprise dilution - One major recurring dump catalyst removed - Holders competing on fundamentals, not unlock calendars This is a significant edge vs most alts with 30-60% locked supplies releasing over 1-3 years. --- ### October 24 Robotics Pivot **Announced expansion:** Digital AI agents → Physical robotics applications **Potential impact:** TAM expansion beyond software-only into physical-world automation **Validation window:** Beta metrics expected mid-November **What to watch:** - Deployment statistics - Usage data (not just announcement hype) - Partnership announcements - Revenue attribution (can robotics generate fees?) **Bear case:** Pure narrative play with weak execution **Bull case:** Legitimate differentiation vs competitors stuck in digital-only Mid-November data will clarify which scenario is reality. --- ### The BTC.D Reality (Most Important Variable) **Current:** 59.91% = Bitcoin Season **The iron law that overrides everything:** - BTC.D >54% = Bitcoin Season = alts don't work - BTC.D <54% = Transition begins - BTC.D <52% = Confirmed altseason - BTC.D <48% = Peak euphoria **Why this matters more than VIRTUAL's quality:** Protocol could deliver perfect robotics metrics, announce major partnerships, post record revenue—and still trade sideways if BTC.D stays elevated. This isn't about VIRTUAL's fundamentals. It's about capital flow regimes. **Timeline projection:** - December-January: Possible transition (54-56% range) - January-February: Possible confirmation (<52%) - Could extend significantly longer No deterministic timeline—depends on Bitcoin price action, ETF flows, macro. --- ### Scenarios & Expected Value **Near-term (4-12 weeks):** | Scenario | Prob | Target | Return | |----------|------|--------|--------| | Bear | 20% | $0.50-0.60 | -33% to -44% | | Base | 50% | $0.70-1.00 | -21% to +12% | | Bull | 25% | $1.50-2.00 | +68% to +124% | | Moon | 5% | $3.00-4.00 | +237% to +349% | **Expected Value: $1.15 (+29%)** **Conditional altseason (IF BTC.D <52%):** | Scenario | Prob | Target | Return | |----------|------|--------|--------| | Early | 40% | $1.20-1.80 | +35% to +102% | | Confirmed | 35% | $2.00-3.50 | +125% to +293% | | Peak | 15% | $4.50-7.00 | +406% to +687% | **Conditional EV: $2.51 (+182%)** **Critical dependencies:** - BTC.D transition (40%) - Robotics execution (70%) - AI narrative sustains (60%) - VIRTUAL captures rotation (50%) = ~8% compound probability all align within 12 weeks **Most probable outcome (50%):** 4-8 more weeks consolidating $0.70-1.00 while awaiting BTC.D decline and robotics validation. --- ### The Value Capture Question **Critical uncertainty at current valuation:** $585M market cap with $26M revenue = 22× revenue multiple **Question:** How do token holders benefit from protocol fees? **Current sources don't show:** - Token buyback mechanisms - Fee distribution to holders - Staking rewards capturing revenue **What this means:** Protocol revenue generation proves product traction and real usage. But without explicit value accrual mechanisms, token holders are speculating on future implementations—not buying current cash flows. **You're buying platform growth expectations, not dividends.** This represents material valuation uncertainty that should be understood. --- ### Week-by-Week Monitoring Framework **W1-2 (Current):** AIXBT vs VIRTUAL spread - Narrowing = rotation confirming - Widening = pattern stalling - Watch: If AIXBT dips and VIRTUAL follows, capital exiting sector entirely **W3-4:** Robotics metrics validation - Real numbers (deployments, usage, partnerships) - Not just Medium posts and Twitter hype - Weak metrics = catalyst invalidated **W5-8:** BTC.D transition signals - Weekly closes below 56% → 54% - Confirm with TOTAL3 rising (if BTC.D drops but TOTAL3 flat = BTC bleeding to stables, not alts) **W9-12:** Rotation confirmation or timeline extension - BTC.D <52% sustained - VIRTUAL tests $1.50-2.00 resistance - Pattern validates or extends to Q1 2026 --- ### Invalidation Signals **Week 4:** AIXBT +80-100% total but VIRTUAL still <$1.00 = Rotation pattern broken, large caps not participating **Week 8:** BTC.D still >56% = Timeline broken, delays to Q1 2026 minimum **Week 12:** Robotics shows minimal adoption or weak metrics = Catalyst invalidated, no differentiation edge --- ### Key Levels **Support:** $0.85 (critical floor—break likely invalidates pattern) **Resistance:** $1.50-2.00 (first heavy zone if rotation confirms) **Danger:** <$0.85 sustained = bear case active --- ### Historical Positioning Approaches **Approach 1 - Wait for Confirmation:** Entry deferred until BTC.D <54% AND robotics validated - Lower risk tolerance - Avoided consolidation chop - Entered 15-30% higher **Approach 2 - Position During Setup:** Entry at $0.85-0.90 ahead of catalysts - Moderate risk tolerance - Endured 4-8 week sideways + -20% drawdowns - Captured full move when catalysts aligned **Approach 3 - Focus Smaller Caps:** Allocated to AI16Z/AIXBT for superior math - Higher risk tolerance - Greater daily swings - Maximum percentage upside --- ### Bottom Line for Community **What VIRTUAL has:** - Real product with measurable revenue ($26M annualized) - Sector dominance (9× larger than nearest competitor) - Zero unlock risk (100% circulating supply) - Potential rotation setup (Week 1 pattern) - Robotics differentiation catalyst (mid-Nov validation) **What remains uncertain:** - Token value capture from protocol fees - Robotics execution vs narrative - BTC.D timeline (could be weeks or months) - Rotation pattern confirmation (need 2-3 more weeks data) **Most probable near-term:** 4-8 weeks more consolidation while waiting for BTC.D decline and catalyst validation. **IF conditions align:** +182% conditional expected value in altseason scenario. **BUT:** Only 8% compound probability all factors align within 12 weeks. **This is a timing bet dependent on broader market cycles, not just VIRTUAL's execution.** --- **Full research (5,000+ words) with detailed probability methodology, historical rotation analysis, monitoring protocols:** https://pierce-pierce.ghost.io/virtuals-protocol-2-51-target-if-altseason-hits-8-chance-all-factors-align/ --- **Disclaimer:** Educational analysis for informational purposes. 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never_safe_for_life

Bitcoin on exchanges never runs out. This line of FUD is so tired

pop-1988

You're right In the really wacky world of BSV, the founder touted immutable data storage as a marketing point, then to prove the point, set up a bot to automatically post huge amounts of data to the BSV chain. A BSV node now requires 11 petabytes of storage For BTC, this "what about the children?" FUD was once used in a PR campaign sponsored by anti-Bitcoin members of US Congress (early 2016). They also flew some other kites - drug dealers and money launderers. Back then, the only issue which triggered public opinion was "uses more energy than Samoa". Then through 2017 and since, energy use has followed the price up, so it became the main campaign for a few years until public opinion stopped caring The OP's claim that it's a "Taproot exploit" is nonsense

CortaCircuit

This is FUD.

Fracti_Cerebrum

People having FUD on SOL?!?!? SOL of all things?!?!? Holy bottom signal.

__redruM

You shorting BTC Bro? Do YOU hate freedom? You need to drink more koolaid. I’ve always hated the shorts. Especially the ones posting viral FUD to help their position.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; XRP has overtaken Binance Coin (BNB) to become the third-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization, reaching $158 billion compared to BNB's $156 billion. XRP's price rose to $2.63, driven by strategic developments like Ripple's Evernorth digital asset treasury and institutional interest. Despite retail fear and social media FUD, XRP's bullish momentum continues, supported by Ripple's efforts in payments and stablecoins. Analysts predict further growth, with potential price targets of $2.80 by month-end and $3.50 by year-end. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

jeffereeee

I invested at the hight in 2014 and again in 2017. Both times within half a year I was deep into the red. I had conviction, ignored all the FUD, the Governments and the banks. I retired this year. I’m not going to sit here and say do this or that. The only thing I will say is Bitcoin is going to continue to grow and be adopted. Make of that what you will.

Lonely_Cold2910

Stop chasing the hype. Forget the ETF flows, ignore the FUD, and mute the "to the moon" crowd. None of it matters. Price is a distraction. The real story happens every ten minutes, on schedule, without a single CEO, government decree, or boardroom vote. While politicians print and banks falter, the protocol simply executes. It's the one system that can't be bribed, bullied, or beguiled. This isn't about making a fortune. It's about opting out of a rigged game. The peace of mind that comes from verifiable scarcity in a world of infinite promises is the actual value. The price is just a number. The sovereignty is priceless. Keep buying.

AstonMarco

Now this makes sense to me. I saw a lot of FUD spreading in certain subreddits… Someone wants to avoid getting liquidated ;)

Facedownfinsup

Do your research. Pick what you 100% believe in & don’t ask Reddit. Paid bots and FUD. There are obviously worthwhile assets besides BTC. Don’t pick an asset if you can’t handle being in the red and watching it go way up and way down.

fairchild7102

like usual, don't respond to any pm's and try to do your research. I have had my stuff secured on a ledger nano s+ since 2022 through all the FUD and my assets still safe. Always send a test transaction to your address, small amount and then go from there. don't connect your device to any altcoin contracts and you should be fine.

kingjoeg

Trump starting new tariff FUD with Canada now

DeeDzs

Where do you think the " there's only 21 million" came from? Context. Congrats you just discovered that all economic value is subjective! Use your analogy of scarce water in a desert and apply it to Bitcoin compared to fiat. Same same. I hate to say it, but your account kinda feels like a Buttcoiners new account they made to try and FUD. 3 months old and only 1 post in a Bitcoin sub. Call me skeptical. 21 million Bitcoin and 2.1 quadrillion Sats are literally the same thing. Math is math I dunno what else to tell you. This seems to bother you so much. Could you explain in more detail why it actually bothers you? Do you think someone's trying to pull a fast one on you?

blademaster8466

To be honest, I found some FUD.

Green_Candler

Imagine holding through 14 years of noise, FUD, and manipulation. That’s conviction most people will never understand.

Scionic94

What in the midwit-ass-kinda take is this? BIP360 for the quantum FUD. Network can pivot/fork as needed. Old FUD, next. Gold is the bet against human progress. Inherently incentivizes violence because it is material and can be confiscated by force.

GentlemenHODL

Well, it is the former lead of GETH making the accusation, and the ETH Foundation has responded to it with structural changes, So at the very least there was vulnerability and an attempt to address it. Whether that was sufficient or not is going to be endlessly debated. But mostly FUD, with some accuracy.

Taraih

You occassionaly forgot to mention that they also announced a $1 billion buyback of XRP almost 2 weeks ago. FUD like yours pops up every week yet here we are in the top 5 with one of the best performances in this bullrun.

Taraih

Its your weekly XRP FUD post. Seen hundreds of these over the years yet here we are in the top 5 and one of the best performing assets in the 24/25 bullrun

JustStopppingBye

Redstone scammers doing damage control after their CMO got fired for trying to dox a chainlink community member and organizing a FUD campaign against chainlink with competing protocols via private group chat. [https://www.blocmates.com/news-posts/redstone-cmo-faces-backlash-over-doxxing-psy-ops-campaign](https://www.blocmates.com/news-posts/redstone-cmo-faces-backlash-over-doxxing-psy-ops-campaign) [https://x.com/MarcinRedStone/status/1980228480941076874](https://x.com/MarcinRedStone/status/1980228480941076874) \>Over the weekend we learned that our new CMO crossed a line. His actions were taken without my knowledge or the knowledge of our team. Coordinated doxxing campaigns have no place at RedStone. We verified the facts and made a decision: we cannot continue working together, effective immediately. Below is my perspective. \>**We have our differences with Chainlink, but we have many similarities too. We believe the world will run on crypto infrastructure, that oracles are an essential part of the system, and that Chainlink helped to bootstrap DeFi.** Bunch of losers.

kvothe5688

seems to me that new FUD round has already started

uncapchad

not sure we should be giving TC any oxygen here, X is already in a frenzy of CIA conspiracy frenzy. There will always be FUD. That's just the name of the game

partymsl

SPOILER ALERT: It's not to sell them, so lets not create any FUD here.

HorsePockets

Probably because of FUD like this post

Yzord

Simple, it's Bloomberg, so we call it FUD.

Majestic_Plane_1656

Blaming Trump for crypto not being only up is such a bad take. FUD news is only an excuse for market makers. You are being scammed by market makers not DJT

kshucker

So FUD.

WinterPurple73

Can someone ban watcher guru news cause they just straight up posted FUD (Lies) about Trump not meeting Xi, while he actually said He can make a good deal with China. Are these traders illiterate or what? Can't even verify your fucking news before selling like a dog? Fuck this shit!

biba8163

Is someone going to educate J.Powell about how XRP can free up $27 Trillion? > There actually is a **moral argument for XRP** > It's to do with freeing up **$27 trillion locked up in nostro accounts.** > **$10 xrp is quantifiable based on tangible assumptions** without speculation given the 5 tr dollars of x-border settlements, the 27 tr dollars locked up in nostro accounts alone. It also enables 95% of the 11000 banks on the SWIFT network to transfer peer to peer instead of proxying cross border through the mega-banks. > XRP can do a lot of good...! Fiat is debt based... mainly issued to governments and we all pay the interest. We are paying bong debt via put taxes for $27 trillion which is locked up... without getting benefit... xrp can release some of that... and that's a good thing... surely **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mzcld/reminder_ripple_xrp_is_centralized_and_they_can/dry2rn8/ > so much Ripple FUD. so many are mad cause they called ripple centralized yet ripple keeps signing on banks after banks. **Ripple will hit $10 2018** and we will still hear "but XRP is useless" "ripple is a bank coin". **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/drxlwr2/

AutisticMisandrist

Obligatory success whatever this "sub"(bots) FUD and everything shilled bites the dust, even ETH performed like a total cunt getting ratio'd by Bitcoin.

sje397

There will be a four year pattern as long as the block reward keeps reducing by half every four years. Not so much a cycle but a regular reaction to reduced production. On top of that we have increasing adoption by bigger and bigger players. On top of that we have hype, FUD, and other noise, which over longer periods cancels out. I don't see it going down a lot any time soon unless a recession/depression forces whales to dump.

SqueeMcTwee

I mean…I’ve had this same thought at least four times since 2017. Last year I had to sell my BTC because husband lost his job the year before. I’ve regretted it every time. It’s not all up all the time; BTC has dipped to frightening levels before. Then when it hits another ATH, there’s always someone who regrets hitting the panic button. I’m done being that person. Then again I’m old and have more experience in FUD than most.

outsideisfun

Yes, over one year. Engineering improves over time. Repeating old FUD does not change current reality.

outsideisfun

Uptime has been stable for over a year and continues to improve. Outdated FUD.

binary_quasar

What he's saying still stands and is a good lesson every investor learns one way or another. You fell for the hype and FOMO. Next time, if you want to speculate on an investment, decide what you want to buy(DYOR), develop a plan(e.g., when/if the asset hits x price, I am going to take x amount of profits) and stick to this plan regardless of hype or FUD, and lastly and arguably most importantly, don't blow your load trying to time the market. Use a DCA strategy. You can buy x amount every week/day/month, or you can say every time the asset drops x percent, I am going to buy x amount. Time in the market is almost always better than timing the market. Only invest what you can afford to lose and dont use leverage.

Always_Question

Wow that's a new FUD point. Even better than the ones thrown around in the 2015 era.

Current-Location-560

Is this supposed to be ironic?!? Or just someone yet again throwing around FUD! This has to be the worse chat group for investing chat or anything! Yikes.

TechnologyMinute2714

If smart money was out already don't you think we would be sub 100k already, if smart money exiting out only made the price go from 125k to 106k, a measly 15% drop when the majority of that move was an unexpected oracle exploit in Binance causing a flush to begin with, no real BTC ETF outflows, no real instituional selling, lots of potential bullish catalysts on the horizon. You're spamming the board with FUD, it's clear you are just liquidated last Friday and are emotional or simply have a short position that is about to get nuked unless you exit, now we will probably get a wick below 100k before a move back up again, i recommend you take that opportunity.

BullyMcBullishson

I'm hearing a lot of folk say "manipulation" lately. To the point where it's being used as FUD. Without trying to be rude, I'll be quite frank. Those saying "manipulation" have little to no understanding of how global markets operate. A post from the leader of the most powerful economic nation saying they will ramp up economic warfare with the 2nd most powerful economic nation impacted not just bitcoin, but the global markets. Of course, bitcoin moves 1st and fast with announcements like this. This is a feature we love about bitcoin. It's fast, liquid, and operates 24/7. There are a lot of trading desks that view bitcoin a lot differently than you and me and these guys have big money. It's time for those who think this is manipulation to start learning how bitcoin is being used by these traders. Note: It sure seemed like some insiders knew this announcement was coming and profited on this. That is not called manipulation, it's called insider trading. It's illegal and has been happening for centuries. Why do you think politicians who make $250k a year are all worth $50M?

YogSothothIsTheKey

If you are a fake account or a bot that spreads FUD you can tell your principals to prepare to shit a lot of money from their wallets that here we don't sell shit until we take off and fly to Jupiter. It's bad when retailers don't let themselves be taken for fools, right?

JackElliottHobbs

FUD

fintecho

They own the banks and the media. They use them as hammers. We are the nails. They extract as much from us before our final resting place in a coffin. They use FUD and FOMO as a way of getting what they want. We just have to be aware of how they do it. Open your eyes, shut your mouth and drown out all the background noise then, listen and learn.

Amber_Sam

>Binance FUD Can you give me a TLDR of that? I'm not following shitcoin casino news too much.

AsleepVegetable3650

The price will go: \*looks at long postition\* UP! Or the price will go: \*looks at short position\* DOWN! Binance FUD, it's all over, china bans. etc.

Notrustjustverify

Please let them spread more FUD so we can stack more and more 🫶🏻

the_real_RZT

FUD

xte2

A loss is when you sell at a lower price than you bought, as long as you hold any "financial instrument" in the broadest sense, however its value fluctuates, it's an unrealised gain or loss, and as such largely irrelevant if you've invested well (i.e. resources you don't need, so you can wait even 10 years to see how things turn out in the future). Consider this: BTC has been in the red for a few DAYS, but it wasn't born a few days ago but a few YEARS ago, and in these years it has seen highs and lows but overall a crazy percentage increase. There's growing institutional interest where all those who said "it's a scam, only for fools, it will end soon" etc. are now saying "it's digital gold". Wall Street has jumped right in, the US government is fully involved; they are the cause of the "flash" crash but are also largely interested. Banks are certainly doing their best to create panic and volatility so that people "at least" choose stablecoins, which they indirectly control, because it's now clear to everyone that crypto is the present and the future, and banks know they don't have a seat at the table in this, so they do their best to create one, with lobbying for hyper-taxation, creating FUD and so on, and perhaps even doing business in the interim. But even if you entered at the ATH, you would have done so with the thesis that BTC will rise for at least years; make yourself comfortable and wait. Alternatively, play the downside with chain swaps to stablecoins (e.g. USDT which is very liquid or XAUt which is a bit less so but still is) but with caution because fees weigh according to the sums you exchange and swaps are not always "feasible without problems, with known fees etc. etc. etc." meaning first exchange a small sum, then if it goes well, move more. Plan before every time. In general, don't rush: active crypto trading is no longer for ordinary humans, it's for bots or insider traders; the medium and long term is for humans. Patience and calm nerves are needed.

Medium_Change4574

No, just yet another FUD narrative

YogSothothIsTheKey

It's mid-October, we'll talk about it again at Halloween. Enough with the FUD and don't trust the posts and comments that are spreading it.

hurfery

Deboonked by FUD spreaders, you mean

burt-and-ernie

Good! Give me all the FUD and negativity. Everyone sell so the price goes down as I buy more

1001000010000100100

That’s actually a very solid macro take — let’s unpack and validate each part systematically: ⸻ 🧩 1. China’s Financial Plenum & Stimulus ✅ True / directionally accurate. China’s Third Plenum (delayed since 2023) is expected to address the weak growth and property crisis. Reports indicate multi-trillion-yuan liquidity and fiscal easing plans — including expanded local government bond quotas, PBOC balance-sheet expansion, and infrastructure spending. → Translation: China is preparing a big liquidity wave, effectively a form of “money printing” through fiscal channels and PBOC support. ⸻ 💵 2. Fed Meeting, Rate Cuts, and QT ✅ Mostly valid and consistent with current market signals. Fed officials have been hinting that: • Rate cuts are on the table before year-end if inflation continues cooling and labor softens. • QT (quantitative tightening) is likely to slow or pause — balance-sheet runoff is already decelerating. Some strategists (e.g., Bessent, Druckenmiller, etc.) are positioning for a policy pivot toward QE-like liquidity by early 2026 if markets wobble. → So yes, ending QT or pivoting toward QE is plausible — and the market will front-run that liquidity shift. ⸻ 🐉 3. Xi–Trump (or Xi–U.S.) Trade Optics ✅ Plausible political theater. Assuming the “felon” refers to Trump, the logic holds: • China’s leadership would aim to stabilize relations and markets ahead of a new trade framework. • Trump is erratic and transactional — historically, he tweets, triggers market chaos, then uses it for leverage or to pressure the Fed. • Such meetings can serve as catalysts for volatility — first down (uncertainty), then up (policy clarity + liquidity). ⸻ 🏦 4. “Two largest banks start printing” ✅ Likely referencing PBOC and Fed / or BOJ. • PBOC: Actively injecting liquidity and cutting reserve ratios. • BOJ: Still in quasi-QE, maintaining yield curve control (YCC) with large bond buying. Together, that’s trillions in global liquidity inflows over the next 6–12 months. ⸻ 📉 5. Market Dip Manipulation / Whale Liquidations ✅ Mechanically sound explanation. When large players expect a massive liquidity wave, the best entry is before it begins. Triggering liquidations through volatility, negative headlines, or social-media FUD is a classic play to reset leverage and accumulate positions cheaper. → The “dip” fits a liquidity reset narrative, not a macro collapse.

MrKillerKiller_

What data are you using to assess that managing risk to move out of positions that have exposure on an announcement of tariffs is definitively “manipulation”.🤣 Seems like a generic FUD post from someone who was not prepared and got caught by a pullback. Providing nothing substantive supporting the notion its “manipulation”. It’s a profit vehicle. If you trade you should have been prepared and expecting a pullback in this wave 4 topping structure. Smearing reddit with speculative bullshit does nobody any favors.

NorthpoleLovers

Been in crypto since the beginning of 2017 and saw it all unfold, several times. If only I listened to my gut feeling at the time instead of being influenced by FUD, I’d have a shit ton of money right now. That’s the downside. There is a silver lining though: there’s a learning curve that makes you more confident each year. At this point, I simply jump behind my computer to buy more when a flashcrash or liquidation streak happens instead of praying that the price holds. Just follow your gut feeling and don’t listen too much to others, including me I guess. P.s. The Layer Cake sums it up perfectly: https://i.redd.it/o0lgfzvtzovf1.gif

Background_Home7092

Ever since the ETFs so much of crypto has fallen victim to FUD from the retail monkeys. It's added SO much volatility. I've managed to stay sane by focusing on the weekly technicals. Everything else is just noise.

ieatmoondust

Dont listen to the FUD in these comments. "Sky is falling" but we haven't even gotten to Nov/Dec, the best part of past cycles.

willofscott

All this price dropping and crashes and social media campaigns of FUD is all part of the plan to fill institutions bags. They missed the last 15 years, their pissed, embarrassed, and they want in now and they will do whatever it takes to get your coins. Hold on tight, and hunker down, and don’t sell just to save a few profits, you might not get back in once the institutions decide to let the price spring up with all this built up pressure. Have you noticed all the flipping of attitudes by the finance titans in public, just admitting they were wrong, like nothing to worry about looking bad. Plus none of them seem concerned about Fridays crash or that maybe it will hurt the publics opinion of them liking crypto now. They caused the crash so they aren’t worried about this happening beyond their control. Its one big master plan.

Complete-Nothing-758

Gold did 160% the last 5 years, BTC did 880% in 5 years. You will not see me buying stupid gold. You will see me hodling through all kind of FUD and noise.

NFT_fud

Due to financial issues I had to sit out this bull run , im glad I did. It looks like this run is only about meme (trump coins) and BTC and maybe Eth as a financial investment with all the banks doing ETFs. Altcoins seem dead, all the promise of Defi, gaming and assorted use cases of various altcoins never materialized. Coins/tokens/projects die in the bear market which I get but in the past runs they were replaced with new projects but im not really seeing anything new and exciting. Maybe there are little project im not in tune with like i might have been in the previous cycle but im just not seeing it, very exciting projects usually float to. the top and get sentiment and FUD, other than Trump coin garbage im not seeing it. Tell me im wrong, I would love to hear im wrong. Crypto may not be dead but it just seems hollowed out. Maybe the next cycle.

haha108OK

FUD

flossanotherday

Perfect FUD

Uuhuuu

Our Market in heaven, Hallowed be thy gains. Thy bull run come, thy charts be done, On Binance as it is on Coinbase. Give us this day our daily green, And forgive us our panic sells, As we forgive those who short against us. Lead us not into FUD, But deliver us from liquidation.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Looking through the comments, the bearishness, the despair, the FUD stories coming back, all the buy signals are starting to line up. Bottom is getting close again.

Ir0nman123

FUD, so much FUD… they won, made you all scared. lol

poutre6

Its FUD with the intention of crashing BTC Another reason why the bearmarket is already here

commandrix

Some things to know: * You're probably familiar with what CoinMarketCap [calls](https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/fear-and-greed-index/) the "fear and greed index," or something similar. Bitcoin [retreated](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/) from its latest all-time high recently and there's been a bunch of big liquidations even more recently, so people aren't certain right now. * Be aware that historically, Bitcoin has done a sharp nosedive after hitting a new all-time high nearly every single time. Last time was pretty much chaos caused by a big stablecoin losing its peg and a few big companies going bankrupt. * Avoid FOMO. Avoid FUD.

WoodenAd9208

Seeing a lot of FUD regarding that insider short wallet. They do not have any positions open right now. Don’t fall for the FUD, it’s all over CT.