FUD

ROSCO_MCD_95

This is completely nonsensical. You are literally just contributing to the mindless FUD going on right now. Have you not seen how accepted BTC has become in recent years? Blackrock offer to hold it on behalf of their clients, as do many other big asset management firms. These price declines suck for everyone but people shouldn’t forget that as a technology Bitcoin is way more valuable than fia currencies for simple reasons like it is limited in supply and more of it cannot be printed out of thin air, meaning it is scarce by design and always will be - that combined with its security and portability makes it a incredibly powerful technology. Still worth it long term imo

BaldDragonSlayer

You're in the pretty common position where you need most of your second cycle to recover the losses from your first. I wouldn't panic or fall for the massive FUD narratives that will surely begin as we head towards the bear market lows later this year. Just try to invest what you can spare, and time your DCAs when you've seen a few days in a row of massive fear in the market. Try to get your average cost basis under 100k as your main goal to start with.

Kaabob24

nothing new.. Bitcoin is more popular than ever, so the FUD is greater, just like before. Let the weak get shook out, and unfortunately the retail share reduces. Just HODL

letsago9987

jfc enough of that FUD

Allred87

Enjoy the ride. And FUD

rgnet1

> For almost any other asset, people actually discuss fundamentals What fundamentals are left to discuss? This is a piece of software launched in 2009. It's worked consistently since then. Tick tock, next block. Never a reversed transaction. Never an instance of a hack (at the protocol level). In 16 years, despite countless and ceaseless attacks, it has never stopped ticking. Decentralized, permissionless peer to peer value transfer. At one point, people worried about forks and alts. And other times, will regulation spell its death? Will a large exchange going bankrupt from corruption / ineptitude cause a crash? The death knell du jour is big, bad quantum. A topic that 99.99% of people on this forum have no technical qualifications to merit a worthwhile opinion. Hot take from a non-specialist engineer: It's FUD. Today's crash, and its preceding mini crashes, have no basis in fundamentals at all.

mgd09292007

The sentiment here flips on a dime. I’ll be honest, I’ve been through a few cycles of this. I just sold everything I had at a sizable loss because I think I can at least double my holdings when it bottoms out. Last time I held form 69k to like 16k and back up to the ATH. This time I would rather do a see DCA when I see the bottom or close to it. I might get burned but the FUD is so high right now, I hope I am right.

Classic-Invite-3254

All these years with China FUD and it’s America and trump that kills crypto lmao wild

Livid_Fox_1811

It was worse last cycle. But just wait. What happens is that we start ranging at the lows, and then some FUD comes out and then we drop again.

Taraih

Aha well it made me a lot of money and the XRP economy is just growing. Your FUD doesnt work mate. All cryptos fall, this is not related to XRP alone.

warblade7

Some effect, not a ton. If you look at each halving cycle and every “event” that triggered the mega bull run and the mega bear fall, there’s very little connection between the events other than when they happened in the halving cycle. The pump and dump this cycle are right on schedule (+\- a month or two) - what was wrong were 99% of the price predictions. Keep in mind, financial people who do this 24/7 as their living will front run any predictable pattern, and depending on their goals - can absolutely move the markets in a certain direction. On top of that, the FOMO and FUD arrive like clockwork. Every cycle has new adopters so they’re always prone to FOMO and FUD. But the floor keeps rising because every cycle creates new true believers too (who have survived multiple cycles). FOMO leads to overleverage and FUD leads to overshorting. The consequences are the same. So enjoy the fire sale, get ready for months of stagnation then wait for the next cycle to start anew.

Espedal1

Jesus is that the new FUD mantra? Mentioning fundamentals? Nice bots trying to push it even cheaper for the next ride up.

Robotoverlordv1

All this FUD during a lil dip is giving April Liberation Day Market crash vibes.

iAbc21

i love when there’s so much FUD. getting my money ready to DCA in 🤗

MrSocrateej

Been buying (and not selling) since 2019, it's the same FUD every time. The dips aren't scary if 1) you understand and believe in BTC and 2) you don't invest money you'll need in the near future. Bitcoin is like my retirement account. I don't care so much about the price today, only what it'll be in 30 years.

TRain2025

These posts seem like a coordinated effort to spread FUD

bcoppari

Another bot spreading FUD, how original.

Party_Operation_9711

If I had a BTC for every time I heard this FUD I’d be so damn rich

wishwashbum

Yes there’s FUD everywhere which is typically a good buy signal but we haven’t had a major black swan event. Some shit that’ll make all your friends and family call you and be like “we told you so”. Some shit that’ll make you question your life choices and give you night sweats. Until that happens I’m betting we go even lower.

HamburgersOfKazuhira

wait until you find out that the fiat value doesn't actually matter. take your FUD somewhere else little guy.

flarept1

Lmao FUD everywhere you look. Are you really gonna fall for it dude? I bought a LOT. Its never a straight arrow up or straight down.

Strict_Anybody_1534

This is my 3rd bear market. I feel nothing. If you hODL now, you'll also likely feel nothing in the future. What I love and keep receipts of online is the FUD. Seems to be quantum and Epstein at the moment. When we reach ATH's again in 2028/2029, i'l go back and see how they're acting now.

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77sleeper

I wonder if any of this is eastern related or just cyclical FUD

ThirdHuman

FUD like this should be banned on this subreddit.

courtesy_patroll

The amount and range of FUD right now is a good sign too. 

Anonymous_Lurker_1

This is my first bear market having got in in March '24. I read as much as i could in the early days and was expecting just this - albeit a few months early. In fact i was expecting ~$65k in June. Im trying to ignore the noise and am planning on coming off reddit to avoid the noise (My feed is getting bombarded with the Buttcoin weirdos), but even the Bitcoin sub seems to be people spreading FUD. I've upped my weekly DCA. Lump bought a load this morning. See you in 2028 🫡

The_Realist01

Don’t waste your time explaining this to these people. I don’t own any MSTR because I prefer the bearer asset, but nearly none of these issuances will be a problem for many years, and by then, holders of the debt will most likely convert to equity. This is all FUD.

bestinvestorever

What? They don’t “have to liquidate” ever. There is no liquidation price. The Bitcoin they hold are UNENCUMBERED, meaning they are NOT at the mercy of an MM or liquidation price. FYI. Ignore the FUD.

DryMyBottom

is the FUD in the room with us?

Necessary-Nature-380

Pre-meditated attack just to oust Saylor's BTC position and probably Tom Lee. Saylor was buying at around $90k levels but looks like he'll just wait until FUD is maximised and then go very long on massively discounted prices... Co-ordinated attacks work both ways, when BTC starts pumping 5-10%, regular investors will just into the FOMO. It'll probably crash to around $50k - $55k first before that happens though.....

Glass-Bodybuilder646

Nope . This sub has seen bitcoins 3k . FUD discussion was always there . Check 2019.

uncapchad

Now is not the time. The FUD has shifted into high-gear as all other attempts to discredit have failed. It's beyond stupid right now. Economic factors are also not great. Most people are going to have a tough year.

Dry-Caterpillar9862

The amount of ripple and other shitcoiners (even gold bugs) on X spamming bitcoin influencers with FUD and straight up personal attacks is off the charts right now. Stay strong bros, they'll be hating us even worse in a couple years.

Financial_Clue_2534

Welcome to the bear market FUD. It’s similar to the bull market FOMO where people think BTC will hit 10m in 2 weeks.

Modrew

FUD, I guess it’s similar to a capitulation/bottom, but I hodl!

juliandid

FUD !

Zipski577

Same haha. I am still keeping my cheeks clinched nonetheless. Allowed me to improve my cost basis last time but now I am remembering how FUD combined with watching my wallet & accounts dwindle in real time feels 😅

Serenaded

Unironically it seems the cycle is real though. Tune out the FUD. The bullrun arrives 1 year before the actual halving, which means 2026 is most likely going to be pre-bull green unless some blackswan turns the world away from crypto for good. Either altcoins move on the 3 year cycle (2020, 2023, 2026) or the halving will bull accumulate, coming 1 year early where the halving is actually the sell event, means 2026 is the bottom and beginning of the bull. Will be funny when the cycle repeats and BTC is 140k, ETH 5k and rhetorical altcoins pumping by December of this year.

hodler1992

Another regarded FUD spreader. Yeehaw

CortaCircuit

FUD

mamaburra

I've been buying a lot these days. Honestly I'm very happy I got the chance to revisit this level. I've been around the block so I don't get FUD every time the price dips. If it goes any lower I'll buy even more.

JeremyLinForever

How can they be underwater if they have convertible bonds at 0% interest rates from 2021 and the first one doesn’t become due until 2028? Yes, they have debt, but at 0% there’s really no need to pay it back unless they fulfill their debt obligations (which is a nothing burger). Stop spreading FUD.

anon-187101

it is absolutely FUD

Lavayo

I did not tell anything to anyone. Content creators earn money with clicks using clickbait, sure. It's the same now btw with bearish FUD. At least with some of them.

Modrew

FUD, is it the bottom?

CoffeeAlternative647

You're fed up with the FUD so you go on making a post for people to deposit even more FUD. It is impossible not to love bear markets. The amount of stupidity pour from everywhere.

corporate-citizen

We have seen enough of the newcomers and tourists wishing that they had loaded up more at better prices, but are ignorant or forget the negative sentiment that cause those better (lower) prices. These types of people consider tops as confirmation that the investment is a good investment and then invest. And some even do this on leverage. These are clowns that should just stick with “safer” investments like in the S&P returning less than the rate of currency debasement. For people with difficulty separating the mood from investment decisions, suggest keeping a running journal (or a comments block on a spreadsheet) and write down your thoughts and mood about why you invested and why you sold or why you didn’t seek or why your not buying . Maybe have a score of 1 to 10, from despondency or lack of interest to love of an asset (FUD to FOMO). Maybe color code those, too. That way when you start to have any of those extreme sentiments again, check for matches to make sure you don’t get your wires crossed again.

biba8163

generational bagholding > **$10 xrp is quantifiable based on tangible assumptions** without speculation given the 5 tr dollars of x-border settlements, the 27 tr dollars locked up in nostro accounts alone. It also enables 95% of the 11000 banks on the SWIFT network to transfer peer to peer instead of proxying cross border through the mega-banks. > XRP can do a lot of good...! Fiat is debt based... mainly issued to governments and we all pay the interest. We are paying bong debt via put taxes for $27 trillion which is locked up... without getting benefit... xrp can release some of that... and that's a good thing... surely **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mzcld/reminder_ripple_xrp_is_centralized_and_they_can/dry2rn8/ > so much Ripple FUD. so many are mad cause they called ripple centralized yet ripple keeps signing on banks after banks. **Ripple will hit $10 2018 and we will still hear "but XRP is useless" "ripple is a bank coin".** **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/drxlwr2/

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

Agitated_Skin_60

There are lots of things to do when it's dipping. Zoom out. All the way. [https://charts.bitbo.io/price/](https://charts.bitbo.io/price/) Check the hashrate. It took a hit recently, keep an eye on the bounce back. [https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/bitcoin/hashrate-chart](https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/bitcoin/hashrate-chart) Look at some of the holdings of the giants. There's a lot of FUD about Blackrock selling, but check their holdings for yourself. [https://bitbo.io/treasuries/](https://bitbo.io/treasuries/) Remind yourself of the fundamentals. Ignore the chatter and focus on what is great about bitcoin. [https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf](https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf)

SpendHefty6066

Bro - In your post, you named Bitcoin "Bitcon" not once, but twice. And you also stated in your post that it was seized and foreigners are selling because they think the U.S. can now magically crack Bitcoin's security model. You are spreading FUD based on your very poor understanding of how Bitcoin security and the English language works.

K42st

I’ll show you so you can go away with your pointless arguments you’ve cherry picked from YouTube content and lame news articles like most people on Reddit. The Word Mnav has to be taken in context you have not go a CLUE about the context that’s why you beleive what you’ve read, you have already shown you are clueless to how Stratagy runs its BTC purchasing model because if you had any idea you wouldn’t still be here argueing this silly Mnav narrative. 1. Bitcoin collapses 2. Debt refinancing becomes impossible 3. Cash flow can’t service interest These three senarios only are when Mnav under 1 matter to Stategy NONE of which are pertinent under the current situation. It’s embarrassing listening to someone who is ill prepared has little to know understanding of the subjects they are talking about and questioning one of the smartest minds in business that is Micheal Saylor. Even with all the fuel I’ve given you to show you the truth you’ll still beleive the FUD simply because Doom stories sound better than reality that’s how kids see the world. Plus not a debate I’d ever want with you but so what id Stategy sold BTC, it would be handled OTC it wouldn’t touch exchanges unless is small batches it would have very little impact on price and for every buyer there would be a seller, whales and institutions, Hedge funds, family offices and high net worth individuals would be directly paired with such selling soaking up cheaper BTC so its sell impact would mean nothing. Markets don’t blow up they go down until sellers are exhausted where inventory is cheap and attractive for buyers then the price goes back up, this is how markets work they always have and always will you’ll become a new person one day when the penny drops but in your case it may take a lot longer than some. Good day.

Naknoemoo

You’ll in my footsteps. I bought the top at 2017, 6k, 9k,10k,16k. And guess what, I regretted it 2018, but after a while, it was the best investment ever. And I’m still HODLING. Don’t worry about Bitcoin, nothing happened, no fundamentals change, no bug, nothing. Only FUD. It will rise again, if not tomorrow, next week, and if not next week, next month. You’ll only loose money when you sell.

Beneficial_Egg_5291

struggling to make up FUD with AI?

retrorays

At its earliest Epstein started investing maybe in 2024. This is 3+ years after Bitcoin became active. Basically all the scammers started jumping in then. No idea WTF the op is about but it sounds.like he's shorting crypto and creating FUD

Yodel_And_Hodl_Mode

YOU should actually try reading the documents instead of posting hearsay for clickbait FUD and karma farming. There's no connection between Epstein and Satoshi, nor is there any evidence that Epstein even knew who Satoshi was. The documents reference discussions with "some of the founders of bitcoin" which suggests that he didn't know who the real creator or creators of Bitcoin were. > Documents reveal that Epstein, through donations to the MIT Media Lab, indirectly funded the Digital Currency Initiative (DCI), which became a paymaster for several Bitcoin Core developers after the Bitcoin Foundation collapsed in 2014. Note that word: Indirectly.

NopeDotComSlashNope

If someone could crack the crypto space, why would they bother when it would be easier to just drain a bank? Or all the banks in the world? (Rhetorical question) You’re literally spreading the quantum FUD right now 😂

OpticallyMosache

I don't have a motivational mantra or some crystal ball to know what happens next but... I know that in every prior cycle's drop, it felt like I made a mistake not selling the high. It felt like a mistake I didn't wait to buy at a lower price. It felt like there's a chance BTC will never recover. But eventually BTC's price reverses and it starts to recover. Eventually passing the last ATH and shooting way past it. The dialogue changes... you read people saying they should've held. You start feeling like you should've bought more. You're glad you bought last cycle, even at the ATH. And just as strong as the FUD felt, you feel FOMO.

BankPsychological883

In 2028 we will be discussing the Jeffery Epstein FUD of 2026 and how we all should of bought more on the dip

lambdasintheoutfield

OP is a confirmed ooga booga. This is stupid FUD. OP you outed yourself as someone who doesn’t understand anything quantum related. Your crypto heroes are not quantum experts and not sure what logical basis you used for determining this warrants an actual problem. Like the rest of the ooga boogas, you also fail to realize if crypto was under attack, TradFi would be in even more danger, yet you don’t talk about that because you are the sheep the big players hope will sell coins so they can scoop them up at a discount.

Daktic

99% of this sub feels split between Bitcoin hype and general crypto FUD. I rarely ever comment because of it but I’m glad to see I’m not alone.

Ge_Yo

That wasn’t the intent. More about discussion than FUD.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A finance blogger, Zeng Ying, claiming to be Justin Sun's ex-girlfriend, has accused the Tron founder of market manipulation and insider trading. She alleges Sun artificially inflated TRX's price and dumped it on retail investors, using Binance accounts registered to employees in Beijing. Ying claims to have reported evidence to the SEC and accuses Sun of spreading false information about her. She also alleges Sun illegally fled China in 2018. Sun dismissed the claims as 'FUD.' The SEC has an ongoing case against Sun for alleged market manipulation. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

jawni

Something can be a legitimate threat and also used as FUD. The quantum threat has always been real, but people use it as FUD because it's still only a *potential* threat. Most chains will be fine because they are proactive enough. Bitcoin might be the one exception because it's so inert and resistant to change. But once the threat becomes more real, you better believe they'll spin into high gear if it's not already too late.

K42st

No it won’t, you can make Bitcoins safe from quantum attack today without any fancy cryptography, quantum computers can only reverse engineer public key addresses without a public key address they can’t get the Bitcoins in the wallet. So for now anyone can generate a new address on a hardware wallet just don’t move any coins or spend from it that way the public key has never been exposed to the internet so no quantum computer can get the coins!!! Of course quantum resistant addresses will be needed to truly protect wallets but if you think that’s not possible take a look at what’s already being worked on and you’ll realise like every problem their is an answer. Don’t believe the FUD that quantum computers will destroy the worlds finacial system that’s just ridiculous humans are smarter.

slimdizzy

So OP has made the very FUD post they were mocking? Huh. This is a great breakdown of the progress.

AstonMarco

Sorry, this is still quantum FUD. It‘s a distant problem for everything. The solution for Bitcoin is simple and will be implemented in time.

cooltone

1. Market wobbles as gold and silver bubbles burst 2. ETF newbies panic sell just like bitcoin newbies 3. Bots and media fuel FUD and accelerate the dip by blaming institutions 4. Experienced bitcoiners recognise the fire-sale and buy the dip 5. Bull run and ATH It's a new tale of media manipulation. Only thing is the identity and motivation of the perpetrator is well hidden.

Few-Being3764

Most of the FUD nowadays is about scenarios where Bitcoin would be the least of my worries. SHA-256 cracked by quantum? I'm more concerned about a nuclear apocalypse. Internet gets turned off? My visa card won't work either, any savings in a bank are functionally gone, the nation/world grinds to a screeching halt. People sometimes also mention that Bitcoin wouldn't be useful in a post-apocalyptic world with no internet, which is entirely true. That's also not the world that I am preparing for, and likely not gonna happen.

_GOREHOUND_

## It ain’t a crash, it’s just a dip. Stop the effin’ FUD posts.

hodler1992

It has not broken it it has tested it only to find great support. These goddamn FUD spreader everywhere

CandyLiving5009

The masses are incredibly easy to read, and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) is the oldest trick in the book te get rid of panic sellers. Whether it's a deliberate move by banks or just market cycles, the big players always wait for the 'weak hands' to jump off the boat so they can scoop up more at a discount.

uncapchad

the FUD won't go away, no matter how many times people are corrected. I have given up. So much bad advice and theorising going on. I've even seen a post saying Bitcoin will soon be banned everywhere because it's too volatile & Saylor will go to prison /xD From a someone with "whale" in their handle. There's just no fixing stupid.

S0l1DTvirusSnak3

Dude calm Down, if you actually own the crypto and are not leverage trading you will recover do not sell!!! That's exactly what they are trying to do push retail out the market! It's the banks selling everything they have and spreading FUD don't believe X or the news! Every bank and country is buying up crypto

Unusual_Square3283

FUD because Eipstein?

Nagemasu

6 redditors repeat this each time 7 redditors never actually capitalise on it despite claiming to know it A tale as old as time. No one knows jack shit about shit. Not even redditors who've seen it all before. BTC is just another market asset and not everything is started because of FUD. If you feel FUD, that's *you* reacting to the market.

Flexerrr

FUD? He was abusing children.. how it’s a FUD? Are you protecting him?

Medium_Change4574

I think this dump is due to general Epstein FUD, I mean that guy had connections to everyone powerful and their mother

Known_Click

The Epstein FUD it’s probably the most ridiculous one I have seen so far on Bitcoin history. And no, this dump has nothing to do with that.

IsEqualToKel

FUD

ThreeTonChonker

1. Introduce fear, uncertainty, doubt 2. Big players sell to drive down the price 3. Retail buys the FUD and sees the price, leading to panic selling 4. Big players buy the dip 5. Bull run and ATH A tale as old as time. Only thing that changes is the timeline of it all.

SpendHefty6066

Retail buying power is a drop in the bucket. Institutions are shaking lettuce hands and tourists out prior to rotating walls of fiat into Bitcoin. Retail needs a little encouragement. But whatever encouragement they get in this subreddit is nothing compared to the professional media FUD the banking cartels can deploy. Even if a few regular Joe’s hang on, I’ll take that as a win.

ThreeTonChonker

That’s some new FUD, you’ll have to employ some bots to make everyone scared about it first

cpunkai

The dismissiveness in these comments is exactly the problem. "It's FUD" isn't a solution. NIST has set clear timelines: ECC 256 deprecated by 2030, disallowed by 2035. Whether quantum breaks crypto next year or in 10 years, the migration window for decentralized networks is measured in years, not months. And unlike banks, you can't just push an overnight update to millions of uncoordinated participants. Some projects are actually building with post-quantum cryptography from the start instead of hoping to retrofit later. CPUNK uses NIST-approved algorithms (Dilithium5, Kyber1024) - same standards Apple adopted for iMessage PQ3. They're also building DNA-Messenger for quantum-secure P2P communication. The smart move isn't debating whether Q-day is real - it's positioning for a future where NIST's timeline plays out exactly as planned.

BitcoinHobbyist

Not many people in the world can EVER reach that level. It's a huge milestone and accomplishment. Hodling can be tough though, regardless of how long you've been accumulating. Don't tumble your bags because of emotions or FUD. Best of luck to reaching 2 BTC!

Alarming-Research-42

It’s all based on FUD and FOMO. It’s in a FUD cycle now.

_GOREHOUND_

# Stop the effin FUD posts and don’t call it a discount. Where do you think you are? Costco?!

GaRGa77

FUD time

ThreeTonChonker

The FUD right now for crypto is legendary. Market makers really want this price down. Bullish as fuck.

BannedInSweden

I can't quite tell if you are serious... You say you want to "change people's lives". However, ETH has done basically nothing but yo-yo since 2021. I haven't lost anything on crypto as i have no money in that casino - but i've come close to a fire # by investing diligently elsewhere during that time. Meanwhile I have watched people I care about chase this rabbit and do themselves great harm. I remember selling lotto tickets to homeless folks when i was a kid working at a gas station... It feels eerily similar. While I do acknowledge there was a run up for a few years there that was spectacular. You could say the same thing for netflix, google, amazon, nvidia, etc...Unlike ETH though - those companies have massive yearly revenue and send checks out yearly. I do loathe those companies but their value is not up for much debate. In the end, It's not FUD i want to spread. I don't want to mess up your Christmas here. Instead, I'm interested in breaking down the illusion that crypto is investing. Like you, I simply want people to find success. Though a success that doesn't require a greater fool to hold the bag ideally.

Ok-Amphibian3164

FUD

ThreeTonChonker

Everyone who knows anything knows that Saylor isn’t affected by any of these bear markets but it doesn’t stop this subreddit from trying to FUD nonstop

BoshansStudios

yes it's called FUD

Gen8Master

Crypto has been through this shit many times. Even back when it had zero credibility in finance circles and it still recovered every time. We are in a completely different place today. You are spreading FUD and you will be nowhere to seen when it recovers. Its not fair on people who could be changing their lives. Im not asking you to spread copium but at the same time you are not being remotely realistic about this technology and why it has captured the attention of every industry, economy and nation. So please, grow up at the very least.

binary_quasar

I'm not sure how you read my comment and thought i was saying they were working for me. I wasn't even defending them, honestly. I was just trying to illustrate that these fiduciaries move markets with total market caps that are multiples higher than Bitcoin's all the time and they literally just got skin in the game. They are just getting started and already announced they are rolling out other crypto investment products this year. Vanguard is an even more recent addition to these types and are likely launching their own BTC ETF. Bitcoin was Blackrock's best performing ETF launch *of all time.* I just dont see how anybody with brain can look at this actual institutional adoption and market legislation and come to the conclusion that *now* of all times, it's dead? These people make these calls with their portfolios %G/L, then go online to find FUD supporting their newly found conclusion, and then they come here to tell us how stupid they are via these posts.

SpendHefty6066

You conflate economic deflation with price deflation so consistently and deliberately that I'll assume you are paid to FUD.

JerseyJimmyAsheville

If halving cycle is still intact: 2014 BTC was down 58%, 2018 was down 73%, 2022 was down 64%, this is 2026 and Bitcoin started the year at $88,732. This is not FUD, just historical data. The only thing that I see that is outside the 4year cycle is that Bitcoin actually ended 2025 down 6.35% for the year. This is the first year that has been negative in any year except the ones I pointed out earlier ( part of the 4 year cycle which is why they seem this year the best year ). I’m guessing the 23.17% that BTC was down in the 4th quarter is partially due to an early start to the bear year as well as options trading. If the 4 year cycle is no longer intact, then all the information I gave this group is useless. I believe it is still intact, just altered in the various amount of ways that Bitcoin can be traded/used. This is not financial advice, just historical facts for the group, but I’d rather sell now and buy back more at a much lower price, it will reach its lowest price by September/October 2026 before it starts to recover. Good luck.

_GOREHOUND_

Stop the FUD posts. So annoying.

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