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ETF's price drop explained, and why the growing optimism!
Do you still believe in Buy the FUD and sell the News?
If the truth makes people fearful, uncertain, and doubtful is that still FUD?
You can still use Bitcoin Lightning in a decentralized way - Here's is a quick and easy 2-hour tutorial on how to use Lightning without centralized services
ETF simps and ETF doomsayers should be in a cage fighting, while we sit and watch them.
Another day, another doofus peddling FUD for attention on the bird app
Whats the benefit of holding a BTC spot ETF vs a Futures ETF?
I'm at work right now. Didn't know what was going down, saw some FUD. I chucked my pay check at the dip when I went for a bathroom break. Yolo.
Its crazy to see how perspective on Bitcoin has changed since last year
What's Algorand been up to in the Bear Market? FUD Fighters....
Coinbase requires UK users fill out risk-acknowledgement form
Don't fall into the bear trap. Diamond hands, folks 💎✋
BlackRock Names Jane Street, JPMorgan as Bitcoin-ETF Brokers
Crypto rules you loose money always for the same reasons
What if there’s just very little demand for spot Bitcoin ETFs?
Guest Post by Coin Edition: Economist Peter Schiff Argues Bitcoin Could Tank After ETF Approval
I really want to have much more exposure in BTC but
Using Logarithmic Charts to Prophesize Bitcoin's Price is Ridiculous
As we're approaching the ETFs approval, FUD has nearly disappeared or...
This is the first time in Bitcoin history that institution will be on our side during bullrun
I've gone through a decade of crypto cycles, I'm still amazed at how cycles continue to repeat like clockwork, despite many things that should derail them, despite everyone knowing about them. Here's why they remain strong, what's causing them, and why they won't go away any time soon.
I've gone through a decade of crypto cycles, I'm still amazed at how cycles continue to repeat like clockwork, despite many things that should derail them, despite everyone knowing about them. Here's why they remain strong, what's causing them, and why they won't go away any time soon.
Hot FUD, fresh off the press!: BlackRock ‘Will Completely Destroy Bitcoin’
What had me convinced to sell Solana at $14 in March
Never trust Crypto opinions that you read on Reddit. Congrats to Solana (#4 by Mcap) hodlers this year
The upcoming "Santa Rally" in the crypto market will catch people off guard
It sucks that paid FUD is going to turn a lot of people away from ETH before danksharding
Bitcoin: my price prediction is $5 million per coin by 2030
Bitcoin: my price prediction is $5 million per coin by 2030
Bitcoin: my price prediction is $5 million per coin for 2030
Bitcoin: My price prediction is $5 million per coin in 2030
Breaking news: my price prediction for Bitcoin is $5 million per coin in 2024
Breaking news: my price prediction for Bitcoin is $5 million per coin in 2024
I have been managing Nexo FUD for 400 days straight
Finally everything seems set on the right path now, all bull market boxes are checked. I'm not challenging fate but are there any legit and realistic FUD events left that can break the market instantly?
NOT FUD: Genuinely want to understand. 7TPS, 8 billion people. How do they all get on L2?
Actual Question and Potential Public Service Announcement
Is there a better alternative to Bitcoin as a store of value?
Legitimate Question Here (100% Scammer Bot)
Crypto is for Criminals - A rant on Jamie
The HODLer: A Tale of Patience and Profit in the Crypto Realm
The BTC Spot ETF is the only way for government to 'control' crypto, they will APPROVE it
Crypto comes out on top after yet another round of fear and doubt. Here's a look at just the last 18 "end of crypto" and "look out below" panics we had in the last couple years. And after all that, crypto is still no closer to vanishing.
The European Commission (EC) is about to take a draconian and unscientific stance towards Bitcoin that can not only pave the way for an EU mining ban, but could have far-reaching consequences for the entire global Bitcoin community. Links to resources and actionable advice inside
Collection of well written articles to combat bitcoin climate FUD
All the DCA we made during the 2-year bear market has finally paid off
Inflation is Bitcoin's Fault: The New York Times' Latest FUD
Parable: dust covers and stranded mining energy
What does FUD represent in crypto? (when used by founders / CEOs)
Do people want widespread adoption? Or for the price to raise insanely high?
Calling All Bois DING DING! $BOIS Coin & Mibois NFT Collection: Igniting the Crypto Blaze!
Treat all exchanges like a public bathroom. Go in, do your business, and get out ASAP.
JPMorgan FUD: Bitcoin ETF Approval May Drive BItcoin Prices Down - Daily Coin Post
JPMorgan FUD: Bitcoin ETF Approval May Drive BItcoin Prices Down - Daily Coin Post
Samurai Pepe | Embrace the way of the last PEPE | Mission to preserve what it means to be a true samurai |Stealth Launch 27th November 17:45UTC
Decoding Bitcoin's Future: An Insight on the Impending Price Rollercoaster from Now to the Next Halving! Brace Yourself for the Ride and Make Informed Moves.
Be extremely careful about your crypto if you have them on Binance.
You're not going to like what's coming
I'm really done with Cardano: you can't exploit the protocols and steal people's money, they welcome the "FUD" and address it, their "influencers" actually share the knowledge with the community & don't abuse the power. It's truly the ghostchain for VCs & hackers cause they're getting 100% ghosted!
It's going to be BlackRock or bust if we're not diligent.
If we want the Moons going to the Moon, we should get the Smart contract verified on Arbiscan.
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Right, so like I said in my OP, this FUD has broke boys going to bat for billionaires. If $500k is suspicious, it’ll get flagged, if it’s not (it’s still logged) then it’s seen as a regular occurrence, aka rich boi. I’m not believing the “what if regular people got caught in the net for rich people” aspect when it comes to millions and billions of dollars.
You are now in the FUD phase. Soon, you will be in the FOMO phase. Then, eventually, as God has decided a million years ago, you will enter the FAFO phase, eventually understanding the true meaning of words like REKT and REGARDED.
not b.s. but timeline is uncertain. I never short or leverage. FUD here? Wouldn't affect the price of anything, that's a delusional view, just small fry here.
Oh man. You can type as much as you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how all of this works. And how arrogant do you have to be to think you somehow discovered the fatal flaw in Bitcoin that thousands of cryptographers, economists, and engineers somehow missed for 15+ years? Like they say, Bitcoin is the ultimate ego test…and, not to sound mean, but you’ve failed spectacularly. Your whole argument collapses because you mix up miner profit, difficulty, and network security like they’re the same thing. They aren’t. Security =\= miner profit margins. Bitcoin’s security comes from how expensive it is to acquire and sustain majority hashpower, not from whether miners feel rich or poor this year. If honest miners are near break-even, an attacker is also near break-even, except the attacker gets no block rewards, no fees, burns capex on ASICs that get flagged or stranded, and trashes the value of the asset they’re attacking, and is left controlling a chain that is no longer considered the real Bitcoin. A big congrats to them. There is no free attack unlocked by halvings. That is a major part of why the incentive structure is so genius. Bad actors are better off simply contributing to the network versus spending billions, if not trillions of dollars attacking it, just to be left with literally nothing. Difficulty is more of a thermostat, not the security budget. You are correct, when miners leave, difficulty drops. However, the remaining miners earn more per unit of hash. Miners then come back until marginal cost is roughly equal to marginal revenue again. The protocol automatically rebalances. Security tracks the total real-world spend pointed at the chain, not the difficulty number itself. Lower difficulty does not mean “cheaper to attack” in the way you’re implying. The attack cost still scales with the total honest spend. The “security goes to zero unless BTC hits $1 quadrillion” take is just bad math. Security budget = (block subsidy + fees) × BTC price. You’re assuming fees stay trivial forever and adoption doesn’t increase demand for blockspace over decades. That’s not only an entire bet against Bitcoin, but it’s not an argument, it’s a prediction disguised as inevitability. At the end of the day, hashrate isn’t vibes. You don’t need to know every miner’s power bill to know that more deployed hashpower means more real energy and capex defending the chain. Hardware efficiency improving doesn’t reduce security; it means the same security can be achieved with less energy, or more security for the same spend. The attack cost still scales with the honest network’s total expenditure. The “governments will attack at a loss” scenario doesn’t get cheaper with halvings. A state actor can burn money to disrupt anything at any time. That’s not a Bitcoin-specific flaw, it’s true for undersea cables, satellites, DNS, banks, and power grids. Bitcoin’s design just makes the cost visible and continuous instead of hidden and political. Ultimately, halvings compress margins, they don’t nullify incentives. Difficulty doesn’t cause security to collapse. And the idea that Bitcoin security is mathematically doomed unless price goes to a quadrillion is a category error and confuses who gets paid with how expensive it is to attack the system. If this model were correct, Bitcoin security should already be imploding right now. I know we’re down from $125k, but even $65k is far from an implosion. That is, unless you’re brand new to Bitcoin, in which case not only would your misunderstandings make perfect sense, but I would understand how it could make you feel scared. Please read The Bitcoin Standard written by Saifedean Ammous. All of this is covered. It’s a great place to start learning about Bitcoin without being confused by the FUD and influenced by the persistent negative narratives.
I have been around for a few years now and these moments when FUD is everywhere is usually a good time to lump sum a bit. Always dca but had to go a little agressove now. I like my odds. Soon 10coins lets f go!!!
Every cycle has its own FUD. This cycle it's Epstein and quantum, it seems. It will end just like it did in previous cycles, see you in 2028.
> Just remember, FUD is how you're feeling, not what's reality. The FUD is in your head. Stop focusing on bitcoin and it's price and you'll stop feeling anything until you see it mentioned in the news in 3 years because the price is back near ATH and people have fomo
Zoom out. Every cycle we get macro panic. Rates. Wars. Liquidity scares. Headlines. And every cycle, Bitcoin does the same thing it has done since inception. Halving. Supply shock. Expansion. Blow off. Compression. Accumulation. Repeat. Bottoms have historically formed about 12 to 18 months after the cycle peak. Recoveries from bottom to new highs have taken roughly 18 to 24 months. Not because of hype. Because supply issuance gets cut in half every four years while adoption trends upward. The 200 day moving average is the long term equilibrium line. When price holds above it, structure remains intact. The 50 day reflects short term momentum. When it reclaims upward slope after compression, expansion resumes. These are not memes. They are statistical reflections of capital flow against a fixed supply curve. What does any of this have to do with Bitcoin? Everything. Macro FUD is turbulence. Bitcoin is engineered scarcity with a 21 million terminal supply. The rules do not change. The issuance does not change. The network does not care about headlines. Maintain the thesis. Respect the cycle. Ignore the noise.
I agree. Sick of these chart boys. Wish I could shut out all this FUD
This is why I completely disregard any bitcoin FUD posted by Redditors.
Proof? Evidence? Sources? I haven’t seen any, so yeah, just FUD.
Well that’s a FUD i haven’t seen before…please tell me this isn’t what’s keeping you up at night
Panicking? Source? **FUD**
But it is his money. He's the largest shareholder. Get that FUD out of your head.
Just remember guys- can’t stop buying. We’re in this cult together. Anything else is FUD!
Everyone loves these hindsight millionaire fantasies. “If you invested $50 every time Bitcoin was declared dead, you’d have $40 million.” Yeah… and if you perfectly timed every market bottom in history, you’d also be a billionaire. The part people conveniently ignore? You would’ve had to buy during crashes of -70%, -80%, -90%… while media, governments, and “experts” were calling it over. Most people can’t psychologically handle that. They sell. They panic. They disappear. Survival > timing. Bitcoin isn’t impressive because of the math fantasy. It’s impressive because it keeps surviving coordinated attacks, bans, exchange collapses, FUD cycles, and still makes new highs. But let’s be honest too — past performance doesn’t guarantee infinite upside. The bigger an asset gets, the harder 100x becomes. The real takeaway isn’t “we’d all be rich.” It’s this: Conviction during chaos is what creates asymmetric outcomes. Most people don’t lack intelligence. They lack emotional durability. That’s the uncomfortable truth.
Just remember, FUD is directed at weak hands. They want your coins. They are coming for your coins. Get your coins into air-gapped cold storage. Do not trust any exchange no matter how public, established, or too big to fail you think they are.
Well, international media much more, but so much of it is FUD. Like, it's been in the works for years, none of the parties, ESPECIALLY the current administration JUST INSTALLED (actually next week!) isn't happy about it and everyone says it's most likely going to change before it's even implemented. So, you COULD ask the question: how is this such a massive topic by Reddit standards there's posts about it daily, while the real situation is actually barely newsworthy? Sidenote: I'm also not happy if this was actually the situation for the unforeseeable future, but here we are. We voted, and those parties don't want this. I expect them to change (if the Belastingdienst can actually get their act together).
Every post about Saylor there’s at least 6-8 bot comments all bringing up FUD about MSTR within minutes of the thread being posted. Most threads in this sub get a couple comments at most. It’s fascinating watching this propaganda campaign.
the fact that saylor even has to address this scenario tells you how much FUD is floating around. their average cost basis is around 24k and they have no forced liquidation triggers. a crash to 8k would mean btc lost 88%% from ATH which has literally never happened in its history. the real risk isnt strategy blowing up — its people selling their btc at the bottom because they believed doomsday scenarios like this
It is an issue for all systems using ECDSA, not just bitcoin. BUT that doesn't mean we can avoid it. Which is why Saylor is finally acknowledging it and looking to help, rather than deflect and dismiss as FUD like he used to. My guess is ETFs said this needs to be addressed. So that's good- while that is being sorted out, think about the market for making this transition to Post Quantum Cryptography for systems across the globe. A major undertaking. Qanplatform has tapped into this- already lining up enterprise adoption ahead of its public launch. This growth does not depend on bitcoin struggles- in fact I think it will gain more adoption if bitcoin stays strong. So, I'm all for bitcoin addressing this problem. Others are hoping to "replace" bitcoin, which simply isn't going to happen.
Bad, silly take. You’re basically positing: if you bought at the absolute worst times (highest) and sold at the absolute lowest, it hasn’t been as good at QQQ. So if you’re totally brain dead, maybe the two are comparable. For anyone with a pulse, they’ve made much better returns. But keep making up hypothetical scenarios and spreading FUD, you sound super smart 😂
Man, people are even farming out FUD to AI. Talk about a dead fucking internet.
This is FUD. It is a 36% tax on assumed profit which is about 5-7%. Even if you make a 300% profit you pay just the basic amount that they assume. Not bad really.
FUD happends because people get their financial advice from twitter and youtube shorts. Braindead
It’s because the FUD is coming from the individuals, while the orgs/govts remain quiet.
Yeah I don't understand how the FUD keeps working when literal countries are holding and beginning to buy x.x
This is the glaring siren to me. Why isn't anyone else copying the Saylor 'playbook'? Is it because he has such an insurmountable lead that they are disincentivized to essentially pump MSTR with large bitcoin purchases? I also see this as a potential problem for Bitcoin. And not for all the MSTR solvency FUD. Quite the opposite.
Haha, fair enough. The 'institutional takeover' vibe is definitely strong lately. That’s exactly why I prefer staying on the data side of things. Whether BlackRock wins or not, they’ll still be burning gas on the chain. That’s actually why I built my own tracker—I’d rather watch the raw network 'pulse' than listen to the hype or the FUD. Staying on the sidelines is a valid strategy, but if you do decide to jump back into the trenches, just make sure you aren't overpaying for the privilege! Good luck out there.
Totally agree. A lot is manufactured FUD and bot accounts
> They wrote themselves a multibillion dollar cheque that users would pay for, while other cryptocurrency did not. They created a brand new solution to the doublespend problem, spent years developing, funding, coding and testing/producing a working product and its value was 0$ when they received it. >You're fine with that great, I'm not your just FUDing lol. > You can stop with the FUD and cryptobro lingo. I will continue to stay away from coins I don't like the structure of. im not telling you to buy it, im telling you you're understanding of it is wrong/lacking. >You could maybe not take it so personally? factually correct information =/= taking something personally. It's not your coin, you have nothing to do with it. Again you came here, spouted lies, got corrected and continued to spout lies. > I do not. have you considered moving to china or cuba? im not sure in what world you're not ok with the creator of something making the most from it. > I'm sorry you feel me calling it a shitcoin might hurt your profits, but it is to me garbage that was invented to make it's creators rich. Again invented to solve the double spend problem without mining (you can google the 2011 btctalk forum thread) >They specifically marketed it towards institutions unlike real crypto which is intended to be outside of institutions and institutional control. they specifically marketed to wards people in the beginning actually (which is why they gave it away for free to people) the pivot to an institutional settlement system only came later.. like MUCH later. So you're just wrong again about its origin (go figure) Also it doesnt give institutions control, it actually takes it away from the "old guard" and levels the playing field for everyone. but you wouldnt know that because you dont know how it works
Theres even bots or AI posting insane FUD every day it's kind of giving desperation vibes. Like why do they want us selling so badly.
Not pacification. Just instilling some more rational thinking as influencers and market makers spread FUD
The 'but the only value is scarcity' FUD is wild. There are so many valuable use-cases.
If you had a quantum computer that could crack bitcoin what would you attack first - banks or bitcoin. People like to spread FUD to get attention when the price action is to the downside. I wouldn’t trust what Willy Woo has to say
They wrote themselves a multibillion dollar cheque that users would pay for, while other cryptocurrency did not. You're fine with that great, I'm not, AND that's my threshold where I call a crypto a shitcoin. You can stop with the FUD and cryptobro lingo. I will continue to stay away from coins I don't like the structure of. You could maybe not take it so personally? It's not your coin, you have nothing to do with it. You made a ton of money that's great, and if you believe the founders deserve billions of dollars then great. I do not. I'm sorry you feel me calling it a shitcoin might hurt your profits, but it is to me garbage that was invented to make it's creators rich. They specifically marketed it towards institutions unlike real crypto which is intended to be outside of institutions and institutional control.
>Ok so if they didn't retain 20 billion personally and 80 billion xrp to run the company They didnt own the 80 billion and never have. you started off lying with "the creators gave themselves half of the coins at inception" now after I hand you the answer on a silver platter knowing ur going to create FUD with it and here you come back with FUD just like I said you would. Again I asked you to read the founders agreement, and you claimed you did yet you still think they kept the 80 billion for themselves, which tells me you didnt actually read it or at least understand it. >with various contracts and escrows then please explain what they did do rather than just saying I don't know. The Time Locked escrows didnt exist on their funds until Dec 2017, a full 5 years later. The timelocked feature for the XRPL didnt begin development until March-May of 2016 IIRC (its somewhere around there that their fund intentions and feature development began I dont have time to dig up the old announcement im sure its still able to be searched on google if you want to read it) >I know some things have changed and I can't be assed to follow a shitcoin to find out what has changed but that was the original setup. You came here as a dishonest participant in discussion to spread FUD, you have only continued to do so even when handed the answer on a silver platter. Stop crying wolf when people dont engage with you on your terms when ur showing you're not here to discuss in good faith. you keep calling it a shitcoin yet you dont know anything about it apparently. The hubris or stupidity to do so is paradoxical >An escrow that limits the timing of release of coins in their control doesn't change the fact that they are in their control. They aren't in the founders control, and prior to Dec 2017, there were no escrows. Prior to the Dec 2017 escrows the company could of sold any amount at any time, they chose to lock their own funds up in good faith. They posted ther intentions to do so publicly in their quarterly reports for almost a full year prior to doing the move(again I could go dig up those reports but you're not here to discuss in good faith so I wont bother) The founders never had control over the 80 billion XRP. in fact technically you had just as much control as them over the funds. The private key to the genesis wallet is in the public code base, anyone could of taken any amount that they wanted. it was a 100% premine. At the time many famous people took from the genesis wallet, (ex Kraken CEO Jesse, Roger Ver) to name a few. Not only that but they used a very well known private key for the genesis wallet. https://github.com/XRPLF/rippled/blob/ffd453f7dd091b0499fd6ab964880c8268deead4/src/ripple/app/misc/NetworkOPs.cpp#L852-L854 The crypto community from 2012 was tiny, like I mean not even a fraction of a fraction of what it is today. It was also A very different mindset because at the time Opencoin(later Ripple) was simply trying to Solve the doublespend problem without mining. They were working/testing to create a new consensus method. They then later gave the XRP that they got away for free to anyone on the forums with an account. I'm pretty sure if you google "BTCtalk forum ripple giveaway" you'll still find their old post where they gave it away to everyone on that forum that had an account registered prior to the announcement. You can also find XRP's early development on that same forum by Jed by googling "bitcoin without mining, BTC talk forum" which was happening in 2011 IIRC. >Do you dispute that they retained a massive amount of the coins in circulation? 20% split between 4 founders who put in all the work, development, time and resources doesn't seem "massive" to me because at the time it was worth 0$. For you as someone who took no part in development, funds, time or resources to criticize their decision for their project is actually insane. Especially if you look at how much they hold today. Like the "founders took half the supply" is such a dead issue in today's world. Jeds wallet is empty (google XRPL tacostand wallet) David took nothing from initial distribution (because he feared the US Gov wouldnt be happy about them "making currencies") so there's half the founders instantly not being a factor in ur "issue" Britto took 2% 2012, and who knows how much he has sold since then. and Larson took the rest. and he as a bunch still but again, he put in the most time, resources, effort, funding etc. Should the founders of something not receive the greatest benefit?
imagine telling someone in 2021 that "he fell for the epstein FUD" will be a real thing
Willy Woo is a trader, not a HODLer. He will spread FUD to close his short position on a profit if he needs to.
Just another bear market FUD. Stay humble, stack sats 🫡
> Oh sorry, I made the mistake and must have gotten it's coin cap mistaken with another garbage coin. "another garbage coin" lol >However it stands the creators gave themselves half of the coins at inception and strangely people like you that read what I read still bought in. >Do better You actually have this incorrect as well. I dont want to help you create more FUD because you very clearly dont know what you're talking about once again but the creators of XRP did not give themselves 50% of supply. You REALLY REALLY need to learn to at least attempt to learn the topic before posting nonsense. if you're confused, go ahead and google "XRP founders agreement . pdf" Initial distribution is and has been public the entire time.
He started calling for the apocalypse right after the GFC. It’s been 15 years of constant FUD while he makes billions off rising stock prices and selling books saying stocks are gonna tank.
Let the bots FUD. Some of us would love to see 40k.
The FUD is failing. Adoption is beginning to accelerate.
HODL & DCA is what always worked for me. Reading a good, usually Bitcoin related book, helps with the FUD.
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I’m buying because crypto FUD is and has been sub 10. I’ll stop buying when it’s back in the green.
The scaling FUD never ends. As if BTC ever scaled? XMR current;y has 200x the capacity of BTC. FCMP can reduce the capacity but it'll still be 50x that of BTC.
Thoughts on the FUD surrounding Epstein’s link to bitcoin?
I personally think the jpeg nfts were a grift from those who don’t want real use nfts to be mainstream. You know…the same people who beg you to sell your BTC? No way they would create FUD tho
I wouldn’t call it FUD when major researchers and industry teams are openly discussing it.
There’s just a team of bots that follow these Saylor posts with the dumbest fucking FUD
It looks pretty good to me. Apparently, people are shitting their pants even though nothing nearly as bad as the MtGox collapse has happened. That would mean it's all just extreme FUD, and it could go back up just as fast as it went down.
So why are you here then besides to spread FUD? Besides od course your mom's failure to abort her mistake
It's almost like we're currently in a downtrend where maximum FUD occurs.
It ain't a scam. It's one of the most popular crypto casinos out there. FUD makes always things more interesting.
Joined this sub in 17 and it is actually insane how common the trend is. FUD posts by buttcoiners and the clear bought the top newcomers when price takes the expected correction after a halving, and all those with conviction drop out for a bit. Then price goes back up after a halving and liquidity shortage from miners, then the bought the top shillers pop back in and buttcoiners swing back over to their sub. Without fail every single time
Same old FUD. Not even entertaining anymore. Not even creative.
FUD, next China bans Bitcoin, next quantum... C'mon 4yr cycles BS,
The FUD argument to what you are saying is that a bunch of degen gamblers are buying and selling $7.5 billion among themselves does not constitute a use case.
It signals small peepee energy for alt bagholders to FUD ETH on “value accrual”. ETH provides an example of a smart contract chain can aim to turn its native token into a SoV. That possibility is the source of speculation energy props up your ghost chains’ tokens to be not at zero atm.
The FUD echo chamber is getting pretty strong. I think this is the most negative and uncertain BTC has ever been in the public forum. That's always been a good sign in the past. Probably going to get worse before it gets better. If you're using money you can afford to lose, this may be the highest percentage chance of getting the upside of a major asymmetrical risk.
It’s the same people that will buy again as soon as the FUD dissipates.. I’m not buying trash.. I mean dollars with BTC 💎
Post is by: Tsmacks1 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1oju517/how_quantum_computing_could_derail_crypto_and/ I asked Gemini "What happens if everyone sold stablecoins at the same time?" **Answer:** A simultaneous mass sell-off of stablecoins would likely trigger a severe crisis in the cryptocurrency market and potentially have significant spillover effects on the traditional financial system. The core issue is that a stablecoin's stability relies on confidence and the ability of the issuer to meet all redemption requests at the pegged value (e.g., $1.00 for a dollar-pegged coin). Here's a breakdown of what would likely happen: **1. Stablecoin "Run" and Peg Failure** Loss of Confidence and Peg Collapse: A mass sale is essentially a "coin run," similar to a bank run. Issuers of fiat-backed stablecoins (like USDC or USDT) would face overwhelming redemption requests. If their reserves (cash, Treasury bills, etc.) cannot be liquidated fast enough or if the market value of those reserves drops, the stablecoin would "depeg," meaning its value would fall below $1.00. Contagion Among Stablecoins: The failure of one major stablecoin would likely cause panic, leading to runs on other stablecoins, even if their reserves are considered safer. Investors would rush to sell to fiat currency (actual dollars) or the safest remaining assets. **2. Market-Wide Crypto Crash** Liquidity Crisis: Stablecoins are the primary trading pair for almost all other cryptocurrencies (e.g., buying Bitcoin with USDT). If stablecoins lose their value or become illiquid, the main mechanism for trading, hedging, and capital movement in the crypto ecosystem breaks down. Mass Liquidations: Traders and decentralized finance (DeFi) protocols that use stablecoins as collateral or for lending would be forced into mass liquidations. This selling pressure would cascade across Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the entire altcoin market, causing a sharp, severe price crash. **3. Spillover into Traditional Finance (TradFi)** Forced Asset Sales: To honor redemptions, stablecoin issuers would have to rapidly liquidate their reserve assets. Since major stablecoins hold billions in real-world assets like short-term U.S. Treasury bills and commercial paper, a massive, forced liquidation could flood these markets, driving down prices and increasing borrowing costs for governments and corporations. Strain on Banks: Some stablecoin reserves are held as bank deposits. If issuers withdraw these uninsured, large deposits all at once, it could put severe strain on the banking system, especially smaller institutions. Regulatory Scrutiny and Policy Response: The event would trigger an immediate, aggressive regulatory response worldwide, focusing on how stablecoins operate and are backed, likely leading to stricter rules or even outright bans in some jurisdictions. In short, a simultaneous, mass stablecoin sell-off would be a catastrophic financial event for the crypto world, likely resulting in a deep and prolonged bear market and potentially causing significant, though probably contained, disruption to traditional financial markets. **My comments:** Now imagine Bitcoin and all other crypto's tanking at the same time. DeFi and crypto are completely vulnerable to attacks from quantum computing. These are the stakes for the necessity of post-quantum cryptography (PQC). If the "future of finance" does not include PQC, then stablecoins will be anything but stable. At the end of the day, crypto is a marketplace. And we need the market to tell crypto it values security with PQC. Sleep walking into a disaster would make a perfect excuse to centralize crypto and destroy the individual freedoms it provides. The market needs to demand this change take place. The decentralized future hangs in the balance. Quantum resistance should be embraced as a security innovation, not dismissed outright. This paradigm shift is coming and it's going to be sooner than people think. For more, see recent comments by Charles Edwards and Anatoly Yakovenko. This is no longer FUD, but reality. And quantum computing should not be feared, but seen as an opportunity to innovate. The foundational trust that crypto is built upon depends on it. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I've been working at the crossroads of traditional finance and the crypto industry for my entire career. Personally, I am a bitcoin maximalist in terms of what I own despite some of the other coins having genuine utility. It is a little religion like because I kid you not there is some serious FUD in bitcoin downturns and usually the people who believe in bitcoins value proposition are the ones continuing to DCA or buy in when the FOMO is not at all time highs. The cycle sort of self-repeats and some people get used to the volatility and hold true for the long haul and some people get washed out. I've bought bitcoin at 3k before so even though bitcoin just fell 50% I've made so much freaking money off this I dont even care. I think bitcoin fixes a broken monetary system and I'm literally an institutional FX (fiat) trader.
I sure hope so. I can’t wait to keep buying at a discount over this FUD.
I mean, this is a bit of FUD, in my view. They don't. Also, they law, which INCLUDES crypto, but actually exists to redesign the way they tax ALL assets you hold, is a complete package where this is a part of. Additionally, the reason they are going to sign is because the current system is flawed in many ways and not future proof in the slightest. Therefore, which is obviously never mentioned, all parties in the Netherlands ARE going to sign, but say the DON'T WANT TO, but have no choice. They accept this as an intermediate solution. Furthermore, this is future law and new laws are, from what I've read, already in the works. This law in it's current form is already, and will create more backlash that in the long term, this is absolutely going to change. Again, this post is not wrong, but it's looking at a small detail over something that's been in the works for a very long time and just includes crypto. It's not aimed AT crypto.
100% agree. It is on sale, tons of FUD & fear, good time to add. We may not have seen the bottom, still not enough tears and rage quitting.
FUD is a funny sounding word
There’s a lot of FUD with how quantum computers can attack btc. You would need Large-scale, fault-tolerant quantum computers capable of running Shor’s algorithm fast enough to attack ECDSA in real time… We are very far from that. You need millions of physical qubits, error correction overheads of several orders of magnitude and long long coherent runtimes… none of this is “next decade” tech by any serious hardware roadmap. There’s a huge hype with quantum computing at the moment mostly based on the huge overselling in the field (I can tell you first hand that there’s very little honesty currently in the sector). If we develop scalable fault tolerant quantum computers that can run long enough, if ever, during that time, Bitcoin can migrate to lattice-based signatures (Dilithium style), or Hash-based signatures (XMSS / SPHINCS+) or quantum hardened Schnorr-style constructions with PQ replacements. Making Bitcoin quantum proof is orders of magnitude easier than developing a working scalable fault tolerant quantum computers. The hard part is getting the consensus to make a change and the coordination, not cryptography. Also, funds that never reveal their public key can remain safe until migration so I think that we are pretty safe from quantum computing risk, if it is ever a thing which is far from clear. Of course that doesn’t mean that speculators or those who don’t really know much about quantum computing may dump based on unfounded fear, and that’s a very real danger itself but fundamentally not really a risk that can take Bitcoin to zero.
They are just spreading FUD to suppress the price. Bitcoin's intrinsic value is doing great, already for 17+ years. It is a truly unique asset.
I mean I listen to every podcast he’s on He and I think alike when it comes to bitcoin Bitcoin is proof of work. Not proof of stake. Him owning 3 million BTC is the same as you owning 3 million satoshi. He has no more say than any of us. Strategy has no intention to sell their bitcoin. That Bitcoin will never see the open market, this is good for price and value. It’s simple supply and demand. And if need be Bitcoin can be more divisible than it already is. There’s no risk for someone like Saylor buying and holding bitcoin. Stop spreading FUD
He's also said bitcoin would have to stay under $8k usd for longer than a cycle for then to have interest payment issues. Idk why people are still betting against him. FUD works every cycle lmao
This is just a recycled FUD, we keep hearing for over a decade. Nothing new. >Quantum computing could crack bitcoins encryption. Bitcoin is a piece of software. Once the QC became a reality, we'll upgrade it like the world will have to upgrade EVERYTHING ELSE. >Mining centralization is real and getting worse with the crash. It isn't. Thousands of miners in each pool says a different story. I know, I'm one of them. >Regulation is tightening globally. The regulation used to be much more hostile towards Bitcoin. Many of politicians already realized they can't fight it. The other will eventually learn.
Right now the news around crypto is all panicky and bad, but there is still plenty of talk about it. I feel like there’s not really a way for it to quickly take off (aside from short term short squeeze pumps) and that we need for it to stop being talked about and ‘die down’ again in the news cycles, get a good reset in perceptions so that a new catalyst will be ‘unopposed’ whereas a positive single catalyst right now would likely just get buried in all the FUD
>It can all reverse when institutions sell and never come back again. That's true of literally every market. If your entire bear case is “demand might go away someday,” then you don’t have a Bitcoin-specific argument at all. If you can come up with actual reasons for demand dropping that are not typical FUD and not already been debunked for years, that would be worth discussing.
I have been here since 2013. I feel more hope now than in previous bear markets. Even the Epstein FUD is a positive. It is positive for alts. As is core vs knots. It takes time for these narratives to bubble up.
True. While macro liquidity and rate cuts are the mathematical triggers, only **sustained price action** clears radioactive FUD. Historically, people ignore 'drama' once the uptrend becomes undeniable. The reset button is usually just **boring, steady growth**.
Exactly, if it goes back to $120k you’ll know the FUD is over. Then your buy signal is if it doubles from here because it means everyone is extremely bullish.
The 4 year cycle theory expects all of 2026 to be bearish with the ultimate low occurring in december 2026. I dont believe that will happen at all. I stated the 4 year cycle FUD will cause huge selling, which is exactly what we have seen. But I also expect 2026 to be extremely bullish with bitcoin making new all time highs by mid year. Meaning anyone who believes in the 4 year cycle who sold 4 months ago and waits until december 2026 to buy back in will be buying way above where they sold leaving them with far less bitcoin than they had originally.
Bitcoin makes most moon moves within 10 days. Usually when the FUD makes everyone thinks it’s dead. Pay for your train tickets quick
Maybe it's not FUD. Maybe, outside of BTC, it is all worthless and people have finally figured that out.
Another OP that likes to thier posts and comments hidden. It is surprising how many of these shy posters spout absolute rubbish FUD. It stands to reason that the company's treasury specialist will not do any research or take advice that; bitcoin is volatile, prone to periodic bubbles, but has good long-term growth prospects. Then suddenly lose all his brain cells and FOMO in. /s You've been sniffing too much WD40.
Haven’t you heard that influential were proposed to be paid to FUD XRP ?
True, it wouldn’t be crypto-only. If it ever gets practical, banks and the wider internet are in the same boat. That’s why I’m more interested in who’s quietly building upgrade paths now vs. arguing if it’s “FUD.”
Ahh, bitcoin dead again. Music to my ears.. Confirms BTC stronger than ever now when this FUD hits.
Lol this sounds like the most obvious scaremongering FUD. At this point I feel confident in buying again. After some years in the market you start to see the patterns.
Only thing is, seeing this for the first to time you must have been living under a rock. With Bitcoin existing for 16 years, what have you been doing when not to ever hear any of the incessant FUD from the past?
I feel bad for the newbies that aren’t immune to this FUD after hearing it 1,000 times before
Not the China FUD IN 2026 lollll
Just look away for a while. The FUD on this forum rn is also just crazy - honestly to the point that it seems pretty clear it’s manipulation - just keep your head and btc will reward you.
More FUD to try and get people to sell. It’s comical.
No there isn’t Binance FUD at all every cycle. The Teher narrative has faded and they have remained elusive and solvent enough for a long enough period that they have substantiated whatever fools game they were playing through the Trump admin. The Binance FUD however is new and has legs if it catches on.
Not gonna lie, and I know this is going to be very unpopular for the btc community. I couldn't take the extra risk of losing it on my ledger. Too much FUD around it back in 2024-2025. I sold my real btc for bito, mstr, and ibit, and bitx. It's been fine, and I don't have to worry about losing it all in one shot because someone hacks my computer. I collect some dividends w/ bito and bitx, and can sell covered calls on ibit and mstr. I'm content. (just started position in bitx after sell off)