FUD

elixon

Man, you have your whole life to figure out the questions you think you should already know the answers to. And to calm you down, the world is always falling apart. It was falling apart when your parents were your age, when your grandparents were your age, and when their grandparents were your age. They made it. You will too. Me personally, when I was growing up they told us that in a few years we would die of hunger because the world could not support so many people. Scientists agreed. They ran studies. They calculated everything. Today we have twice as many people, and there has never been a better time in history when it comes to eliminating world hunger. Then there was AIDS. We were all gonna die. Then pollution. Then global warming. Then COVID. Then financial crises. Then wars. And yet today people are healthier, live longer, buy more useless vanity stuff, and starve less than ever in history. Get used to it. FUD is always present and always has been.

No_Knee3385

Yes, there are two possibilities. We are going to get there, or we never will again. Because at the moment, there is no FUD or huge drops and uncertainty like we had in the previous cycles. In 2022, the influencers were leaving (many don't exist or made new accounts), their engagement was dead, crypto reddit as a whole was super dead. But those things are just not true now, people are still excited about crypto.

internetmoney-

This has been happening in cycles since I got in crypto in 2017, Markets can drop more and then come back stronger, but I agree there is a lot of FUD now should be a sign that we are nearing bottom in the next 6-12 months

HistoricalRock7146

So people are selling assets so they have cash to gamble? Sounds like an attempt at FUD to me.

ConcussionCrow

Nice FUD. Ath incoming

Cortexan

It’s funny how all the sudden over the weekend there is a flood of “advising” FUD posts in this sub, almost like a coordinated effort to influence the community, all selling the same message.

Illustrious_Way3898

This is a very soy boy post. We are CRYPTO BULLS WITH BIG BALLS and only want to see green candles. That's why we are here. To make money. Not to FUD our own bags. Oh wait, you're sitting on the sidelines...

tonio306

Big money realize that quantum safety is more than FUD, and is moving their BTC onto exchanges to start selling. Massacre begins NOW

broccolihead

Shut Up Shill This is Anti BTC Rhetoric Designed to Create Fear Uncertainty and Doubt Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling, and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

FOMOmeterCrypto

This doesn’t sound like FUD. It sounds like realizing BTC went from an outsider bet to a grown up macro asset. Less magic, fewer illusions.

mlhender

The accounts that post this stuff are bots paid for by legacy financial. Just more FUD but with better sounding arguments

ThreeTonChonker

Coordinated quantum FUD. Nice chatGPT message OP. Really scary. Very shook.

Bred_Slippy

The banks are moving to quantum resistant algos. Based on the underlying physics, I have serious doubts that QC will become commercially viable for many years (quite possibly never), but it's a great FUD angle that likely needs addressing due to that. 

turick

Listen to the latest What Bitcoin Did episode with Michael Saylor. I find him pretty cringe with the way he talks to Danny, but he makes good points about timeliness and expectations surrounding adoption times for technology. He went into pretty good detail about electricity and how long that adoption took (30 years?)... for people to embrace the most important advancement of our society. Bitcoin is insanely complicated. Most people dont understand money at all... Not just how it's created today, but where it came from and it's history. This is gonna take some time. Adoption WILL continue to grow. Can't be demoralized about OGs who have but their fingertips off for the past 17 years, sitting on hundreds or thousands of Bitcoin. Of course they're gonna sell. In another 15 years, whole coiners are going to be dumping millions of sats at a time, and people are gonna freak out asking why are these guys selling when bitcoin is being totally stagnant at £10MM a coin. You need to lean into the fundamentals. It's sound money and it's absolutely scarce. Quantum is FUD. Wait for a rip to $250k and you'll be laughing off all these doubts.

ThreeTonChonker

Back to the quantum FUD huh? Out of all the subs which exist to discuss a topic, this is by far the worst. This sub only exists for haters and morons to post their bullshit. Quantum computing has been debunked a million times over and by the time it’s actually a problem (decades from now) it will be trivial to solve. Now go away.

rottiesrule88

FUD Writen by AI

The_Realist01

You had it right in the first sentence. It’s far reaching FUD. That’s it.

zatkobratko

Very well-written post. I agree. The Crypto community should not regard quantum Computing as FUD. But merely an early call to be ready for adoption. We need Blockchains to be Quantum-Secure, so private keys are not hacked all over the globe and fuck the space.

biba8163

> I guess we are going up now. 🤡🤡🤡 > The rabid ETH FUD right now is a massive signal to buy more ETH **(Dec. 2023)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18la5ne/best_time_to_convert_eth_to_btc/kdxqhew/ > so much eth hate... it’s about to rocket upward **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0 > Not sure why you’d sell ETH right now when it’s going to increase multiples more than BTC **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1b3wzne/sell_eth_for_btc/ > Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Drops to Lowest Since April 2021 **(Sep. 2024)** > Nice time to buy then https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fic4xz/etherbitcoin_ratio_drops_to_lowest_since_april/

Mantis-Prawn

Current market cap and liquidity already is far too big for this.  Manipulation happens mainly through the spread of FUD. 

ThreeTonChonker

The crypto energy crisis was always FUD perpetuated by morons and buttcoiners (who coincidentally are also morons).

ObjectiveJackfruit35

Don't forget that most people in here who endlessly shit on crypto most likely have less than $1,000 in the game. The whales, the people who actually have a lot of money invested in crypto, aren't in this subreddit spreading FUD.

omnipotentnothing

People really need to start listening more to Michael Saylor. This FUD is just illogical at this point. FIAT is done for long term. Bitcoin is "perfect" money and the only thing it needs to show it is time. There isn't a single government on this planet that can afford to not inflate their own currency. I'll take my chances on Bitcoin any day over corrupt, bureaucratic governments that spend tax payer dollars like a kid with their parent's credit card.

Accomplished-Cow769

Old recycled FUD from end of November and nothing happened when Japan decided to raise rates. Nothing burger.

H8ckt1v1st

Bitcoin is not crypto. Bitcoin is math. math that will produce exactly 21M coins. The market of whales and TradFi are playing sleight of hand to distract you. Don't pay attention to FUD, simply have more SATs tomorrow than you have today. Your future self will reward your diligence in BTC, Fiat will be a history book lesson.

jawni

I know you're not dumb enough to think blockchains can dictate which projects launch on them. I know you're not dumb enough to think censorship is the answer. So why would you FUD like this? Not to mention Trove wasn't even supposed to be a Solana-based project, they only recently switched to Solana after their Hyperliquid partner: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trove-market-pivots-hyperliquid-solana-154902021.html

Least-Dingo-2310

Yes. Its a self adjusting system. OP is just spreading FUD

AstonMarco

This is the perfect FUD. EVERY technology has to adapt, not just blockchains like Bitcoin.

feanarosurion

Nic Carter is a smart guy but he's just fearmongering. He completely ignores that there are BIPs to make Bitcoin more quantum resilient. And even then, the most common address types already hide the public key before spending. He's just spreading FUD.

Hit4Help

There would be FUD from all angles. People would also be worried it's not satoshi and Bitcoin is broken at a fundamental level and keys are not safe.

mymasterpain

Community chatter is all positive. No FUD in sight.

ThereIsNoGovernance

Yawn... Quantum Computers are not ANY THREAT TO CRYPTO. They are a measure of how much legacy finance fears Crypto. QC is an ABSOLUTE pipe dream and you are GULLIBLE AF if you think they are a threat. QC cannot reliably factor a number greater than 15 and it doesn't even do that very well. They are, in effect, glorified random number generators that have ZERO future in computing. Already an utter failure continuously making flip promises that will NEVER be realized. Any number of Quantum physicists will assert the verity of what I state and have already hinted at how futile this pursuit is, but that won't stop Google/IBM/China etc. from continuing to use QC as a means of spreading FUD about crypto and the reliability of cryptography in general. As long as there are researchers willing to prostitute themselves in this field for grant money this farce will continue, unfortunately. If you are wise you will just ignore QC. It will eventually just fade away like a nasty fart on the wind.

cjarguello

Every time BTC dips, dips hard, or crashes, it is "looking good" and "looking better". Trump is your best friend. FUD is light in the dark. Crashes take you to the moon.

pop-1988

FUD written by tomshardware writer who doesn't understand cryptography or Bitcoin

Strict-Aardvark7942

It’s honestly exhausted to see that even in 2026, the narratives haven't changed at all. Every time the market breathes, the same 'doomsday' scripts about Bitcoin dropping to 10k or the network failing resurface. It is a broken record that ignores over a decade of proven resilience. These critics consistently mistake short-term volatility for a lack of fundamental value, failing to understand the Lindy Effect and the power of decentralization. The truth is that while people wait for 'blood in the streets' to buy back in at prices from years ago, the Bitcoin network only gets stronger, more secure, and more institutionalized. History has shown that betting against Bitcoin’s long-term growth is a losing game. The math is hard-coded, and the scarcity is real. Instead of falling for the recycled FUD on social media, one should look at the long-term trajectory: it’s a marathon, and the trend is undeniably up. People keep waiting for the 'perfect bottom' that never comes, while the smart money simply ignores the noise and keeps stacking. Some things never change

biba8163

> Strong buy signal for ETH Congratulations on playing the same recycled bagholder bingo cards in 2026 > The rabid ETH FUD right now is a massive signal to buy more ETH **(Dec. 2023)** https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18la5ne/best_time_to_convert_eth_to_btc/kdxqhew/ > so much eth hate... it’s about to rocket upward **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0 > Not sure why you’d sell ETH right now when it’s going to increase multiples more than BTC **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1b3wzne/sell_eth_for_btc/ > Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Drops to Lowest Since April 2021 **(Sep. 2024)** > Nice time to buy then https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fic4xz/etherbitcoin_ratio_drops_to_lowest_since_april/

biba8163

> It will pump once you sell all your ETH > Can’t wait for my bags to start pumping. Bagholder Bingo. It's been 4 years and 8 months since ETH reached ~$4,200 https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20210511/ > That's how it works That is NOT how it works. > The rabid ETH FUD right now is a massive signal to buy more ETH **(Dec. 2023)** https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18la5ne/best_time_to_convert_eth_to_btc/kdxqhew/ > so much eth hate... it’s about to rocket upward **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ik9pg4/daily_crypto_discussion_february_8_2025_gmt0 > Not sure why you’d sell ETH right now when it’s going to increase multiples more than BTC **(March 2024)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1b3wzne/sell_eth_for_btc/ > Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Drops to Lowest Since April 2021 **(Sep. 2024)** > Nice time to buy then https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fic4xz/etherbitcoin_ratio_drops_to_lowest_since_april/

Spaceseeds

I miss when the FUD actually had to do with crypto, not whatever this pathetic shit had become in this sub

Prestigious_Long777

Not at all. If you sold 2500 BTC in one go today that would barely move the price. That’s only ~225 million USD. Short and long positions far bigger than 225m are constantly being opened / closed. In the past 24h there were > 54 billion USD worth of opened long and short positions combined. You need to short BTC with billions at high leverage if you want to affect the price. MicroStrategy regularly buys 10k+ bitcoins (4x more than your example) and the price might temporarily go up a few %, as exchange liquidity is limited, but then corrects again. Bitcoin has a lot of liquidity, A LOT. There are many price points even if there is a lot of FUD at which people are begging to buy. Even if a massive whale exits their BTC position, so many people are waiting to buy at lower prices new liquidity continuously comes into the market.

BuiltToSpinback

Literally not true. Don't spread fake FUD

Ok-Bug-7140

Another FUD story. Don't believe the BS

Ztoxed

A healthy view for me is Crypto is Penny Stocks. Until or if CC ever becomes world dominated. Crypto is just a digital penny stock situation. Even Bitcoin is similar to some pennies that took off and did well. Pennies are risky just about the same as Crypto. Both you get pump/dumps. HODL, **FUD**, & FOMO lives in the lives of both these two models of investing. I mean Trump Coin was a huge example of what a Penny stock does.

Few-Being3764

When Q-day arrives, if we don't have quantum-resistant algorithms, you should be worried about, at best, every account you've ever had being immediately compromised, and at worst, all-out nuclear armageddon. The government also uses SHA256. Rest assured, if that actually comes to pass, you will not be thinking of Bitcoin. The thing is, an alternative will be developed and we will avoid it like we did with Y2K. People will say we should have never been worried, but they will be wrong. Being worried is good, it will lead to the solution. It is not a reason to panic and sell everything. This current FUD cycle about quantum computing is just price suppression.

sylsau

A way to create more FUD.

pet2pet1993

It’s FUD. All the enemas are trying to purge Monero. Real reason is known by me: ZCash investors turned to XMR because ZCash devs have officially renounced their beliefs in Electric BlaBLaBla Organisation that officially owns all the ZCash technology and blockchain (hasta la vista decentralisation).

harvested

If a utxo of a landlord was doxed along with the tenancy agreement, it would not be hard to find out the location, tenant, landlord, as well as balances of related addresses, associated exchanges, withdrawals, deposits. If this is FUD to you, please share some of your utxos and your residential address.

seambizzle1

And that’s all it’ll show Nothing wrong with using the same address Stop spreading FUD

kshucker

Reddit Solana FUD. Gonna buy some more.

Aware-Association857

Yes. I'm a big believer in Monero's future and have been following the project since the beginning. I just want OP to know what he's getting into because it's not your typical corporate-backed shitcoin that pumps to the moon every cycle. It's never-ending FUD and negativity and you better have more reasons to be holding it than purely speculative ones or you're in for trouble.

Teraninia

It's not that people are scared, its that JP Morgan made 25 billion dollars last year just alone from customer deposits. The banks are essentially admitting that they are a cartel, that bank competition isn't actually real (at least not enough to provide better interest rates to customers), and they are that they couldn't actually survive real competition from a parallel financial system. If the banking industry were actually capitalist and not a monopoly, then competition between banks would already have optimized yield such that defi wouldn't be a meaningful threat. They just can't handle a system that isn't being rigged by the state and that allows for actual competition, and their ace is always to create fear of financial instability, a narrative they now lay easily after over a decade of media FUD that has primed the public to fear crypto.

fortis

So fucking stupid and just plain FUD. When quantum computing becomes a real threat, Bitcoin is a valid vector, but every banking institution would be as well. There will be a massive paradigm shift at that point, resulting in spending and redesign that should rival Y2K…

OpticallyMosache

Right now (it's a floating rate) it's earning 3.51% My view on money has become so skewed though from Bitcoin's volatitly and exchange fees that earning low interest feels meaningless. These are the different eras I've had buying BTC. In the beginning, I bought based on FOMO and when the price was accelerating I wanted more. -Lump summing $5-15k when I felt FOMO -Buying $1-4 every hour on Strike - price agnostic -Allocating 5-10% of every paycheck (bi-weekly) - price agnostic For the last couple years though, I've discovered building up a reserve over 2-4 paychecks and then buying when I feel BTC is tanking provides me the most joy. Instead of buying when I'm feeling FOMO, I buy when I'm feeling FUD. Doing the opposite of what my monkey brain wants to do. However, right now I'm paused and not working (no income). My only BTC action is slowly converting IRAs to IBIT.

Hefty_Jicama

Short term FUD. It dips, people sell and smarter people buy it up along with big buyers and bitcoin continues to do what it does and makes ath in 2026. 

Hefty_Jicama

I will buy at all highs and lows. The people spreading FUD can eat shit 

AcostaJA

FUD no txid references

Mantis-Prawn

Just checked VISA, they are doing pretty decent honestly. You are just spreading FUD. 

d8_thc

He's not really levered, dingus. Annual obligations are only ~1.5% of net assets. His company is like 15% levered. Go compare that to other companies out there with actual leverage. There is no margin call around the corner. It's FUD.

d8_thc

This is such FUD. Do you know how little levered MSTR is? Do you know how long and profound a BTC drawdown would have to be for MSTR to be in any sort of danger? Do you understand there aren't 'margin calls' for MSTR that would require forced selling?

Head-End-5909

Oh FUD 😱

CryptoHamela

Last summer during Qubic FUD was a good time to buy

Benzo_Head

if you post this on r/Bitcoin they would immediately call you a fudder. Apparently reality = FUD

bluekemuri24

Idk… but the there’s a good number of people holding litecoin to make a profit, as evident by all the exuberant price projections and hopium that they’re consuming. I use profit here loosely by including increase in valuation (e.g. 1 LTC can buy 12 eggs vs 24 eggs). if profit or increasing valuation isn’t a priority, then why even bother to moderate or censor bearishness? I think that’s bull. They care about moderating or censoring because FUD could potentially impact litecoin’s value, or profits to some.

EarningsPal

It’s always FUD. For the last 93 years. Every single time, except the 1929 crash, was a great buying opportunity and a terrible selling opportunity.

Ir0nman123

It’s all FUD… they’re trying to scare you. Apparently it’s working.

jawni

I find it very strange you're not acknowledging how much ETH maxis were constantly shitting on SOL too. Both sides I think now understand they're head and shoulders above everyone else and aren't as threatened by each other. New L1s are falling flat, old L1s just aren't comparable from an adoption/usage angle. Personally I've been an ETH maxi from 2017 to 2021, at which point I became a little more bullish on SOL, just relative to ETH when considering the valuations. Still massively bullish ETH(just slightly more bullish SOL), haven't sold any in the last 5 years, but honestly not interested in using it anymore. I was a heavily active user on chain, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've used Ethereum and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case for a lot of people like me. Because it's not always just FUD, sometimes it just did suck to use ETH L1, but you're not going to hear those genuine complaints.

Dziabadu

So Fink saying "there's no guarantee Bitcoin won't expand it's coin limit" is just a FUD to control price or will they try to f*ck around? I am not willing to trust them with my money. Traditional economy yield do not matter while the base currency gets debased. 10% returns from sp500 mean you're not loosing wealth at best. If people don't run full nodes, don't verify their Bitcoin spends or utxos then the network will get manipulated/censored by Black Rock alikes leaving the whole crypto game useless.

bi0hazard6

What happened to the corporation that decided to attack Montero by using a fuck ton of hashrate? Was it successful or was it just FUD?

FOMOmeterCrypto

Tech got worse, or just FUD? More like governance and execution risk. Code didn’t break, the org did.

TheDevilSummoner

No time for that. In the comment you replied to, I said people fucked up. And that's also the case with the wallet software. This whole thread is the U in FUD.

Cautious-Lecture-858

MSCI announced that it will keep Bitcoin and crypto treasury companies in its indexes. This was the biggest reason behind the October 10th crash, which wiped out $19 billion in a single day. The announcement should end the $MSTR FUD about being forced to sell their Bitcoin holdings worth billions. I don't know how to see this as anything other than extremely bullish news for the crypto market.

ThrowRA-football

If you have lost faith in BTC, why are you even here? Spread FUD somewhere else.

Crypto-Voice-Pro

I hear you on the 94k resistance—it's been a tough nut to crack, and the order books show a lot of sell pressure sitting right there. ​Regarding the 'Tariff FUD' from last April, it’s a perfect example of how the market is now reacting to DC politics as much as it does to on-chain data. It was a classic shakeout that rewarded anyone with a longer time horizon. ​I think your 82k 'market mean' target is a solid level for a retest. If we do dip below 90k, seeing how we hold at the 82k-85k support will be the real test of this structure. I’m staying neutral for now, but keeping an eye on the DXY—if the dollar keeps cooling, that 150k target for 2027 starts looking very conservative. Are you mostly in BTC, or are you looking at any of the 'tariff-resistant' sectors like DeFi?

bcoppari

I feel the same way. I see nothing but hate and FUD. Either bots or people who have no holdings in BTC or any crypto and have no idea what they’re talking about.

FuckM0reFromR

I have another one for you: "Anything that can't go on forever will eventually stop." Million? > Billion? > Trillion? Stick to first principles lads. If you want to speculate on BTC then DCA, hodl, avoid shitcoins and ignore FOMO & FUD.

PteranLaches

These guys have been posting FUD on monero for weeks now. Ever since Zcash and other privacy coins pumped, bunch of bag holders are trying to create FUD to try and pump their own bags.

LurkerFromTheVoid

From the article: In Bitcoin We Trust Newsletter Read in the Substack app Open app The Siege of the Ledger: How Bitcoin Replaced Kings with Code. The Architecture of Trustless Money. Sylvain Saurel Jan 06, 2026 1 1 This is one of the most fascinating concepts in computer science, and understanding it is the key to understanding why Bitcoin was a technological breakthrough, not just “another Internet thing.” Before Bitcoin, digital cash was impossible without a bank. The Byzantine Generals Problem explains why. Type your email... Subscribe The 50/10 Rule: Unlocking the Secret Math Behind Bitcoin's Million-Dollar Future. Sylvain Saurel · Jan 5 The 50/10 Rule: Unlocking the Secret Math Behind Bitcoin's Million-Dollar Future. Imagine if there were a simple “cheat code” to understanding the chaotic, volatile, and often confusing price action of Bitcoin. What if, amidst the noise of daily candles, fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD), there was a singular, elegant mathematical relationship that has held since the genesis block? Read full story The Scenario: A City Under Siege Imagine a wealthy, fortified city in a valley. Surrounding this city are four different armies, each led by a General. The Goal: To capture the city, the Generals must attack simultaneously. If they all attack at once, they win. The Risk: If they attack at different times (e.g., two attack and two hang back), the city’s defenses will crush the attackers. They die. The Constraint: The Generals are separated by distance. They can only communicate by sending messengers across the valley (where the enemy might capture them) or through the hills. The Problem: Who Do You Trust? This sounds simple: General A sends a messenger to Generals B, C, and D saying, “Attack at dawn tomorrow.” But here is where it falls apart: Unreliable Communication: The messenger might get killed on the way. General A thinks the message was delivered, but General B never got it. General A attacks; General B sleeps. They lose. The Traitors: This is the harder part. What if General B is a traitor? General A sends a message: “Attack at dawn.” General B (the Traitor) receives it, but sends a message to General C saying, “General A said we should retreat.” Now General C retreats, while General A attacks. The attack fails. The traitor wins. In a decentralized system where no single person is “in charge,” how do you ensure everyone agrees on the truth (the plan) when you can’t trust the messengers, and you can’t trust the other Generals? For decades, computer scientists thought this problem was unsolvable. Why This Matters for Money In the digital world, money is just a message. It is an entry in a ledger. The Ledger: “Alice has 10 coins. Bob has 0 coins.” The Transaction: “Alice sends 10 coins to Bob.” If we have a centralized bank (like Chase or the Federal Reserve), the problem is easy. The Bank is the King. The Generals don’t need to agree; they just listen to the King. The King maintains the one “true” ledger. If the King says Alice sent the money, she sent the money. But what if you want to remove the King? If you want a currency that no government controls, you need a network of computers (the Generals) to agree on who owns what (the Plan). But digital networks are full of “Traitors”: Hackers who want to spend the same coin twice (The Double-Spend Problem). Bad actors who want to alter history to say they never paid you. System glitches (unreliable messengers). If the network cannot agree on the order of transactions, the money is worthless. If I can send you a Bitcoin and then convince the rest of the network I didn’t send it, I can keep my money and get your product. The economy collapses.

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Frosty-Permission-14

Stop spreading FUD You have no clue

user_name_checks_out

Spotted a bitcoin conversation on r/all: [How Bitcoin Mining Works](https://old.reddit.com/r/explainitpeter/comments/1q52cft/explain_it_peter/) The top post is a very concise summary of mining from someone outside r/bitcoin, it's nice to see. It makes me happy when I find a bitcoin conversation in the wild, and when I see knowledgeable people participating in the discussion instead of pure FUD.

GeX_64_

If by FUD you mean Fundamentally Undervalued Downtrend

oak1337

Let's get our definitions correct first. **Decentralization has to do with equally distributed power.** Power is decentralized or centralized. Distributed or concentrated. **Permissioning is about who can participate in validation.** Though to be clear, on Hedera they are more technically "consensus nodes", not "validator nodes". This is because the full group of Hedera nodes comes to leaderless consensus and participates in every transaction equally **(decentralization of power)**. This makes your "voting" analogy above even funnier. Every node has equal weight in the virtual voting of the hashgraph. This is not the case on Ethereum. Ethereum uses a Block Leader, where ONE person **(centralization of power)** is the "king" of that block that validates the transactions in whatever order they choose. Because there is a leader, they can see your transaction in the mempool and intentionally put their own transaction in front of yours (Frontrunning/MEV). This steals billions of dollars from regular users every year. Why would I want a system where the a couple wealthy leaders are allowed to rob me in broad daylight? I’d rather have a system where the math makes it physically impossible for anyone to cut in line. No one can reorder transactions. Fair. You say "anyone can validate the network", but that's not really true is it? It's a different kind of barrier to entry. An economic one. At current prices of ETH and hardware, it's well over $100k if someone just wanted to "join validation" and participate. For 99.9% of the world's population, $100k+ is not "accessible." So it is also a gated community, like Hedera, but a different kind. Hedera's council members are known and accountable corporations, but Ethereum's validators are a "landed group " of anonymous early adopters and whales. Maybe you're right, "anyone can join", **but only a few matter.** You brushed it off rather easily before, but Ethereum’s Nakamoto Coefficient is currently 2. This means that if Lido and Coinbase (the two largest staking entities) colluded, they could control the chain. TWO players. **Centralized power, even though it's permissionless.** **That kind of "decentralization" is purely psychological.** This means after your $100k investment, running a node with 32 ETH in a sea of millions of validators gives you something like 0.00001% of the power (refer above to your voting analogy - this is the same thing as having zero vote). It is "decentralization theater." It makes the user feel like a participant, but they have zero actual influence over consensus or the King Block Leader. So the question is, are you going to spend $100k+ just so you can "verify the chain yourself"? Cause that's all it's good for. And while we're talking about it, you don't need to be a consensus node on Hedera to "verify the chain". Anyone can run a Mirror Node. You don't need permission from the Council. A Mirror Node receives the state of the ledger and allows you to verify that every transaction is legitimate and that the math adds up. You don't need to write to the ledger (Validate) to audit the ledger (Verify). You can prove the Council is being honest without being on the Council. That said though, Hedera is midway though implementing Block Nodes, Block Streams, and Dynamic Address Book. All will be done in 2026. These are all the precursors for permissionless, it's listed next on the "Hedera roadmap". Hedera adds nodes/shards as TPS capacity is needed. When the 10k+ TPS throttle is reaching it's limit, it's time to add more. Add scale, add nodes. It's inevitable if Hedera needs to scale. So the only "maybe" at this point is how much TPS Hedera can capture. Then a permissionless shard can be created and there will be no more FUD left on Hedera. To use your voting analogy one last time: Ethereum is like a country where "anyone can vote", but it costs a $100,000 poll tax to enter the booth, and two giant corporations own 51% of the total ballots anyway. Hedera is currently a constitutional republic where the 39 'governors' are public, rivals to one another, and physically unable to cheat the count because of the math. I’ll take the one where the math prevents the theft every time.

B1GCloud

What is this constant BS FUD about people buying 1 single time at all time highs.

MikeysOnTheMoon

Saw some people on crypto twitter spreading XRP FUD last week so I bought more. Happens every time

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

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waitareyou4real

Ledger is a great wallet, ignore the FUD

EntrepreneurDue420

This is wrong and Peter Schiff propaganda. Get this FUD off here.

renoracer

exactly, and judging by the flood of bot posts and comments that attack MSTR, i'm almost certain it is just coordinated and organised FUD. long term MSTR is a no brainer, and it's a shame "bitcoin maxi's" who hold $500 btc buy into this FUD and shit talk it at every opportunity.

Whole-Reserve-4773

I’m very tempted to buy gold and silver but I have to go against my regard retail brain and buy low instead of buy high. I simply cannot find anything that is not overvalued and hasn’t gone parabolic in the past year now except bitcoin. S and P 500 + some small percent VXUS international and the rest BTC. The sentiment sucks now, lots of FUD and everyone clowning BTC now that it’s below 100k. Large institutions are still buying so I will too. I feel diversified enough to survive whatever happens

cookingboy

I mean for 2025 Bitcoin underperformed the rest of the stock market by like 20%, is it really FUD when it’s a shitty performing asset even in a bull market?

ThreeTonChonker

New year, same old FUD

TvAGhost

Nope. Don't understand? Not my problem. FUD harder clown.

biba8163

> Such a dumb comment that will age like milk...remind me how stupid you are in 3 years Let me remind you that 8 years ago in December 2017, dummies bought the Ripple Scam Narrative, and were dumb enough to believe banks all over the world would soon be using and buying up XRP which would drive XRP to $10 in 2018. XRP is lower today than it was in December 2017...8 fucking years ago. > **$10 xrp is quantifiable based on tangible assumptions** without speculation given the 5 tr dollars of x-border settlements, the 27 tr dollars locked up in nostro accounts alone. It also enables 95% of the 11000 banks on the SWIFT network to transfer peer to peer instead of proxying cross border through the mega-banks. > XRP can do a lot of good...! Fiat is debt based... mainly issued to governments and we all pay the interest. We are paying bong debt via put taxes for $27 trillion which is locked up... without getting benefit... xrp can release some of that... and that's a good thing... surely **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mzcld/reminder_ripple_xrp_is_centralized_and_they_can/dry2rn8/ > so much Ripple FUD. so many are mad cause they called ripple centralized yet ripple keeps signing on banks after banks. **Ripple will hit $10 2018 and we will still hear "but XRP is useless" "ripple is a bank coin".** **(December 2017, XRP $2.30)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7mxbiq/warning_you_dont_own_anything_of_actual_value/drxlwr2/ January 2018, almost ~8 years ago, this guy realized that XRP was a scam and sold all of this shitcoin. XRP was $3.20 then and it's $1.85 today. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180104/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o6u64/sold_my_all_ripple_after_reading_this_just/ ZERO demand. Zero Usage. 100% Token Dump Scam. This is why this shitcoin is below 2017 prices. **1.8 Million XRP burned per year!** | Market Conditions | Daily Burn Range (XRP) | Annual Burn Estimate (XRP) |-------------|------------------------|-----------------------------|--------| | Typical / Avg Year | ~5,000 XRP/day | ~1,800,000 XRP/yr | Mid-Usage Recent Year | 3,000–4,000 XRP/day | ~1,100,000 – 1,500,000 XRP/yr | Low-Activity | 400–750 XRP/day | ~146,000 – 274,000 XRP/yr | Very Low Activity | ~700 XRP/day | ~255,000 XRP/yr **2.4 BILLION XRP dumped per year!** | Year | Total Escrow Released | Approx. XRP Sold/Distributed |------|------------------------|-------------------------------|-------------| | 2018 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2019 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2020 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2021 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2022 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2023 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2024 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP | 2025 | ~12,000,000,000 XRP | ~2,400,000,000 XRP

ThreeTonChonker

1/42 would being sold would not devastate anything as long as it’s not sitting in an order book unsold. Especially since Saylor would understand that dumping that much is going to result in less money as the price goes down. This whole FUD campaign with Saylor being the bad guy is the most eyerolling bullshit. And half of you dorks are buttcoiners so you should just fuck off anyway.

ThreeTonChonker

Oh then I guess the price of BTC is in the millions from all the buying these guys are doing, right? Or maybe they’re not nearly as important as the FUD on reddit wants you to believe?

colonisedlifeworld

FUD

ThreeTonChonker

MicroStrategy buys are not moving the price of Bitcoin. Buttcoiners, gold/silver bugs, and morons (they all have a lot in common) will come in this sub and act like Saylor is hurting crypto and spread FUD without understanding that MS is a drop in the bucket compared to the daily trading volume and the proof of this is the fact that absolutely nothing Saylor does has any impact on the price.

Medium_Change4574

And the best thing about crypto: absolutely no recovery happens once any FUD period ends!

Remwaldo1

Can we ban people who post stuff like this with no links or proof who are just trying to create FUD.