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Bringing privacy, security and performance to the Internet of Things using IOTA and usage control

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Can the 6G potential transform crypto like AI did? Even though the technology may take a while to be fully implemented, is it too early to make a position now?

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Vechain a top 35 coin doing really well, IOTA may still do ok but all the others are garbage

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Wish I could say the same with IOTA but 6 $ will never happen

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Long time IOTA holder here. Now, why do you say is IOTA going to “slow down”? Price-wise, it’s been stuck in the mud as of late…

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Remember kids, Alts will make you rich. 6+ years ago, /r/cryptocurrency was excited about buying **cheap alts** - Buying up all these dirt cheap altcoins.. - My DNT bags are so filled - Any suggestions for alts to pick up? - Ark, OMG, LINK, WTC are all pretty cheap compared to their ath right now. But so are most coins so dyor - Omg, neo, ubiq, vertcoin, komodo, stratis... take your pick https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/75ayv6/this_is_me_watching_people_sell_alts_at_a_loss_to/ 5 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency picked out these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua...

Yes on IOTA.

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Oh I remember helping you with private keys yesterday… so you must be somewhat new. Many BTC maxis were not BTC maxis once upon a time. I invested in all sorts of shit in 2017. Over time you realize that if you aren’t careful about your information sources then most of what you read is coming from venture capital marketing or people simply shilling their bag. Honestly it’s hard to nail down a single resource on this. It comes down to watching the actions of some of the most poorly behaved projects (like IOTA or EOS) where the value extraction from investors to dev team becomes most prominent. Combine that with the vast ecosystem of products being built in layers on bitcoin and the potential explosion of it in countries like Africa that don’t have banking services and it starts to become obvious that most of the other shit is just cool tech that was built to be sold or built to hide massive Ponzi schemes like the crazy DeFi projects we saw in 2021. If you don’t understand why so BTC maxis exist and they have been in the space significantly longer than you then you need to do your own research to understand what you might be missing. All of that said, I wouldn’t fully consider myself a maxi, there is some good development happening on other chains. I’m skeptical of proof of stake. I think and hope that things like zk roll ups will eventually be adopted by Bitcoin, but there are certain things that other chains do better. Regardless, 99% of what’s out there and especially stuff that has been created in the last 5-8 years is mostly just a money grab in the sense that they should just be building their tech on an existing chain or token. Fragmentation is bad for security, decentralization, and network effects. It is convenient for scaling, which is why so many people play the fee/slow card to try to get you to buy their shitcoin that would by necessity less decentralized or show a problem if it faced the same strain as BTC. Instead of resources I recommend researching the following topics: - POW vs POS and trade-offs - why are bitcoin blockchain times slow? - understand why bitcoin software development is slow - not an experimental project, but a production system that must prioritize security and decentralization over experimentation - Luna/Three Arrows Capitol - the ICO craze (Block.One and Dan Larimer as an example) - why Bitcoin (and ethereum) has optimized for building in layers as opposed to scaling on L1 - Bitcoin wallet security (like multisig) and the challenges of added complexity (see ledger wallet connect hack - General macro understanding of money - Listen to Lyn Alden on podcasts or read her book “Broken Money” - why having a neutral reserve currency is a game changer for developing countries (read Alex Gladstein) - if you have concerns about POW energy usage then learn more about how grids work, when the carbon is being produced, read about off-grid mining, and understand what costs are going to influence the mining dynamic into the future - understand the limitations and possibilities of scaling with thing like e-cash, lightning, or side-chains (if they are ever enabled) I think if you genuinely start to understand all of those topics then the dismissal of shitcoins from people like me will make a lot more sense.

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Coinbase seems ok with bitcoin and eth, but beware any low market cap coins like IOTA or LRC. They screw up on these often. They did on my DAI transfer.

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In my opinion, SUI shows promising prospects, which is why I'm investing in some of the projects within its ecosystem. The same holds true for other ventures like QAN, IOTA, and ALGO, aligning with the current surge in Quantum resistance and DEPIN projects.

> Nokia or BlackBerry would be around forever, as AOL, Yahoo and many others. Dumb crypto investors compare Bitcoin to tech companies and are always doing research trying to find the crypto with the best **technology and innovation**. They compared Bitcoin to AOL or MySpace saying BTC will soon be replaced by new shitcoins with superior technology. Post from ~7 years ago where people said *"Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet"* -- most these dummies have lost most their money. Don't be a dummy. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7kval4/in_20_years_bitcoin_will_be_to_crypto_what_aol_is/ - In 20 years Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet. - Lol—try 3-5 years. - I think 20 months tops - 20 yrs? Think 2. - It' ll happen sooner. The world turns faster constantly. Bitcoin is like a fat, slow dinosaur - Agreed. Could be months. The space is wide open for competition. Could def see ETH and BCH taking the crown. - Someday people will think that it'd ridiculous to pay fees and wait time to transfer money and they will buy IOTA - Companies will not bet on a burning piece of garbage like Bitcoin, and whatever they pick will win. I guarantee it. See: Bosch/IOTA. - Hmm your comment has made me think of possibly splitting my portfolio four ways - ETH, IOTA, XRP, REQ. - The sad fact is there are coins from 4 years ago that are better than Bitcoin, we don't even need new projects to take leaps forward. - Tl;dr I think your bitcoins are going to be about as valuable as your 20 hours of free internet CDs from AOL - In 2017 alone, Ethereum, Iota, Ripple, Vertcoin, Monero and Litecoin have all made big moves in terms of tech and adoption. What will 2018 bring? 2019? Will Bitcoin still lumber into 2020?

Coordicide perpetually six months to two years away. They've launched new coins to dump on retail. Sadly, IOTA seems washed and likely to miss this cycle.

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I actually prefer the way they prioritise. Instead of focusing in the cryptosphere they focus on real world cases. SURE we missed a couple bullruns , but now more and more people realise real world value is king, and IOTA is years ahead now 😁

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IOTA , BY FAAAR. The patens , and collaborations with top companies worldwide are second to none other crypto. Good luck researching ☺️

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IOTA, but you all not ready for that comversation

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Check IOTA

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Agree with the ADA, not BTC. If you like a well researched project with a chance of solving the trilema you should check out IOTA

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ADA def has a shot to go to prior ATH or well over it; IOTA maybe.

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yea i've got a handful of bags i will sell when they break even. CHZ, IOTA, ADA, HOT, FIRO i managed to average down on them all in late 2022. so rather than -80% they are all sitting around -40% which makes me feel better

1. XMR (Monero) 2. ETH (Ethereum) 3. IOTA (Iota, if we're talking long-shots)

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Because XRP is ISO 20222 compliant. One of only 7. Banks trust ISO. The whole quantum AI controlled financial system is going to be built on these coins. List of ISO 20022 compliant cryptocurrencies XRP (XRP) Quant (QNT) Algorand (ALGO) Stellar (XLM) Hedera (HBAR) IOTA (MIOTA) XDC Network (XDC) Don't get me wrong, I'm for decentralization like most cryptos. But the question was the future of XRP and this I think is where its headed.

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Ah yes, when I see NEO I also see REQ, VET, IOTA, XRP, ICX, XRB (former Nano) and all the 2017/18 classics.

Nothing is safe, not even BTC! My take on crypto though is a very high allocation on BTC and ETH > 50% so I can venture down the MC ladder and getting exposure to low caps, where small investments can yield big gains! Pre-launch stages is where $100 or $200 can turn into a few thousands. I am keeping an eye on Weaver labs and a couple of Solana meme coins. Answering your question, I'd definitely stick with LINK, SOL and INJ from your list. Then I'd go with a currently polemic one: DOT (such low valuations makes it way safer than others) and I'd close out with an old time favorite also currently out of favor: IOTA.

Been out of the space for a while but another project that comes to mind is IOTA. It still has an active community and a lot of researchers working on it but still underperforming by a lot

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Thanks a lot for your insightful answer. It is a very interesting topic. I'd like the idea of a blockchain MMORPG (Gala Games is building one: Mirandus) but not only for the items but for the in-game currency as well: I always think of RuneScape's gold as an example, it'd be nice to have a sustainable way to mint it. What do you think about this? Also, with the appearance of ultra-cheap blockchains such as Solana, Gala's GALAChain, Hive (no fees at all) or IOTA (recently into EVM, also no fees at all) it would be possible to develop something truly unique.

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IOTA a good one to put into this list too.

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IOTA is never delivering on its promise.

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Retired maxipad checking in. Since 2018: - The S&P index, a safe weighted index of stocks, has returned ~70% - BTC from its highs then, has returned ~90% - ETH has returned ~60% - Every other crypto in the top 25 from 6-years ago is down -60% to -98% with shitcoin investors losing most their money. After getting to a high marketcap, it's almost impossible for shitcoins to keep gaining value pulling in new investors. The notion that the market is red, now is the time to buy my shitcoin is a losing proposition. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180107/ The vast majority of crypto investors lose money because almost all of the crypto space is a money grab scam. These shitcoins have no fundamental value proposition and are entirely dependent on BTC price rising and bringing new dumb money to the market. Hold some BTC long term as a diversifier with traditional assets including stocks, bonds and real estate as your main holdings and for god sake avoid shitcoins (everything that is not BTC). Don't be like dumb crypto investors doing research trying to find the crypto with the best technology and innovation and comparing Bitcoin to AOL or Facebook saying BTC will soon be replaced by new shitcoins with superior technology. Post from ~7 years ago where people said *"Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet"* -- most these dummies have lost most their money. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7kval4/in_20_years_bitcoin_will_be_to_crypto_what_aol_is/ - In 20 years Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet. - Lol—try 3-5 years. - I think 20 months tops - 20 yrs? Think 2. - It' ll happen sooner. The world turns faster constantly. Bitcoin is like a fat, slow dinosaur - Agreed. Could be months. The space is wide open for competition. Could def see ETH and BCH taking the crown. - Someday people will think that it'd ridiculous to pay fees and wait time to transfer money and they will buy IOTA - Companies will not bet on a burning piece of garbage like Bitcoin, and whatever they pick will win. I guarantee it. See: Bosch/IOTA. - Hmm your comment has made me think of possibly splitting my portfolio four ways - ETH, IOTA, XRP, REQ. - The sad fact is there are coins from 4 years ago that are better than Bitcoin, we don't even need new projects to take leaps forward. - Tl;dr I think your bitcoins are going to be about as valuable as your 20 hours of free internet CDs from AOL - In 2017 alone, Ethereum, Iota, Ripple, Vertcoin, Monero and Litecoin have all made big moves in terms of tech and adoption. What will 2018 bring? 2019? Will Bitcoin still lumber into 2020? And don't be like dumb crypto investors who fall for crypto that have developed partnerships with governments/enterprises and have real world use cases. These dummies all got bamboozled and have lost most their money. > "major banks will use XRP as a liquidity tool in 2018" and "an order of magnitude dozens of banks" will be using XRP in 2019" Brad Scamminghouse in 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/cnbc-interview-with-brad-garlinghouse-ripple-ceo.html > IBM ipartnering with Stellar to build the World Wire on the Stellar Network for open source financial services network https://www.signifytechnology.com/blog/2018/07/ibm-to-use-str-coin-on-stellar-blockchain > Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/cardano-in-africa-inside-iohks-ethiopia-blockchain-deal/ > IOTA's partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, tracking data and earning while you drive. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > Vechain partnered with countless companies including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China) with supply chain and carbon tracking memes. https://twitter.com/BYDCompany/status/1037605045309591552 > ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ > Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ > Factom partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security for immutable data ledger on multiple blockchains. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k > The South Australian Government conducting official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State) https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/ > Why I Went ALL-IN on Smartlands...The Real Estate market is the next holy grail of crypto and Smartlands are making it happen in the next few weeks. This is a multi-multi-trillion dollar market and there will be huge rewards for first movers and early adopters. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/mfpzmw/repost_from_rsmartlandsplatform_32_fundamental/

Shimmer is L1 network with Shimmer EVM L2 deployed. IOTA is L1 also, IOTA EVM L2 has to be deployed yet. All L2s inside Shimmer can transfer bridgeless, and all L2s inside IOTA can transfer bridgeless. For transfers between different L1s you need a bridge. To answer original post, i believe we'll at the end see most of chains running on the same interoperable L1 like Shimmer or IOTA. However, coins like btc will need a bridge always.

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I don't know about shimmer but the reasoning stays the same. If shimmer is just a smart contract running on IOTA (without outside validators) there will still be a lockup of L1Shimmer and a release of L2Shimmer. Maybe it's enshrined L2 and ran by the same validators as IOTA in which case it will be fast and feel like a seamless experience. But an L2 like that is pointless unless the only purpose is to bring EVM capability to IOTA.

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They can if they are both running on the same L1. https://medium.com/@NakamaLabs/the-yin-and-yang-of-crypto-bridges-benefits-and-security-pitfalls-a625d9b04677 Check Shimmer, its staging network for IOTA and it already works there. You can try moving Shimmer L1 to Shimmer EVM L2 within Bloom wallet.

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I think it will be solved technologically. For example IOTA/Shimmer has as a protocol that allows interoperability - bridgeless transfers between l1,l2 and l2-l2.

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> 2024 going to be awesome I've lost count of the number of shitcoins that have said this and lost track of the fools who kept saying RemindMe in 3yrs/5yrs and now have disappeared because they've lost most of their money. Just remember that IOTA was once the #4 crypto and a few years ago was releasing the same promising roadmaps after dropping -90% from the 2018 bullrun. They had partnerships with Volkswagon, Fujitsu, Jaguar Land Rover. The founders and insiders who got rich off it, were spouting the same shitcoin bullshit mantra about technology, decentralization, use cases and adoption. This shitcoin is now down like -97% and the gullible who fell for it will never recover their money. > Over the next year+ as IOTA continues to gain more and more real world adoption, publish our academic work in respected journals, added on all the exchanges, startups- that have been workng in the past years on basic use cases get funding from serious VCs, standardization and collaboration with other open source entitieopen source entities, etc .....blah blah https://np.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/wa9b38/we_did_some_spring_cleaning_and_brought_the/ https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fqqmv15d9lkk31.jpg IOTA Partnership with Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ > Earn Money as you drive.....IOTA partnership with Jaguar and Land Rover https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover

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Yea I would say the discussion is a lot different in the discord. As with most of the recent promising alts, websites, whitepapers, and roadmaps are less important than things actually getting built, but then again when was the last time a promising tech boomed like hype shit? Also CFB started it after bailing on IOTA, since IOTA team was taking their product in the wrong direction.

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Or it will never catch fire like all those other great chains from 2017 lol. NANO and IOTA spring to mind.

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This sub is historically stupid so don't even pay them any attention. I use nano frequently to transfer funds. Bitcoin is virtually unusable as a currency. Many people lost money on Nano and are bitter. Just remember this is the same sub who shilled VeChain, Verge, IOTA, Req, OysterPearl,etc. 

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Lol 2017's favorite coin? I forgot about REQ. 2017's favorite coin had to have been VeChain or IOTA or something, def not REQ.

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#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by pashtun92. > # A bearish case for Nano: a discussion about bitcoin's scalability and a comparison of Nano with other altcoins. > > Disclaimer: This argument has been used by myself in the last round. I have updated some of the arguments. > > Update: today nano has fallen out of top 200 coin! > > The arguments I have seen in this subreddit are always the same boring arguments: It is fast, free and compared with bitcoin it takes less energy. Nano proponants have entire graphs of electricity use and metaphors to "strenghten" their case. What they forget to mention is that it is exactly this high electricity cost which provides the security of bitcoin. I dare say that bitcoin is the most secured blockchain in the world. Aside from perhaps ethereum, I don't think there is any crypto which has transaction volumes of over billions of USD's. For good reason, mind you. > > Now let's dive deeper into the arguments provided by nano proponants. What I always find interesting, is that nano proponants always claim that bitcoin "is not scalable", knowing full well that this is not the truth. By now, anyone in the space knows of the L2 solution for bitcoin, the lightning network, which does exactly the same as nano does: giving instant and practically free transactions. > > However, when you mention this to a nano proponant, they always come back with the same boring argument: "Ya but there is only 7 TPS in the main chain layer, therefore, L2 is not scalable, as you would need on-chain transactions to open and close LN channels". This is false, I dare say even FUD, as we have something called the lightning channel factories which can scale LN to support the entire world. They are not yet in use, as LN has not reached it's capacity yet. > > The nano proponant proceeds with more FUD: "Ya but LN has many security issues, there is the famous flood & loot attack, you should google it". What the nano proponant either don't know, or as I would expect from them, consciously omit is that we already have a sort of "firewall" for this attack and this problem has been fixed. I suspect consciously because they always claim bitcoin is not scalable when this is obviously false and they know that too. > > So the conclusion we can draw from here is that nano holds no competitive advantage over bitcoin. In contrast, bitcoin DOES hold competitive advantages over nano. For one, the micropayments possible with LN (e.g. paying equivalanet of 0.001 dollar) opens the way to revolutionazing finance and how companies operate. For example, right now all podcast makers have to find "sponsers" to earn money with the podcast. But now it is possible to listen to podcasts through LN, making 0.001 dollar payment per minute, which is nothing for the listener, but can amount to a significant sum for the podcast creator. You could also do something like 'pay for what you watch' as opposed to having a subscription of 10 dollar/month even if you don't use it. > > Aside from this, there are also many other things you can do with LN which I will only briefly touch but link to here: > > It is possible to send messages (app like or email) through LN, completely private and encrypted > > Use atomic multipad payments (AMP) to send FILES through nodes in LN (e.g. an audio file) > > Call someone without anyone ever knowing through LN and even send money over if you wish so > > Decentralised finance (lending & borrowing bitcoin specifically) > > Earn satoshi's through playing games > > We also have important updates coming to the bitcoin network such as Schorr Signatures, RGB and possibly Eltoo. This would make the use of smart contracts very easy on bitcoin and pave the way for DEFI similar to the scale of ETH and others. > > What I find interesting about nano proponant is that they never, NEVER compare nano to other altcoins in their "bull case for nano". Why is this you may ask? The answer is obvious: anyone would immediatly notice that other altcoins can do what nano can and have much better functionality, use cases and backing. All nano can do is transact value from A to B, free and cheap. Let's take a look at a small list of other coins which can do pretty much the same, but also have the potential of DEFI: > > Ethereum (In DEFI, king of security) > > Solana ( In DEFI king of speed) > > Cardano ( In DEFI king of decentralisation) > > XLM > > IOTA > > ALGO > > Yet the nano proponant will claim that nano is undervalued, when it has no competitive advantage whatsoever. Some of them will claim that it is best used for "day to day transactions". Like outlined above, one could easily use LN for that and much more, making nano obsolete. Or if a person was keen on privacy, he or she would use monero for day to day transactions - which is as we all know the king of privacy. > > Nano proponant have a dream that some day it will overtop bitcoin. However, the truth is much harsher. For one, nano used to be a top 10 coin in 2017. Now it temporarily fell out of top 100 just a few months ago. I speculate that this downward trend will continue and nano will drop out of top 100 by the next bull cycle. In my opinion the only reason nano shillers shill this coin is because of personal greed and not fundamentals or use cases. We are living in 2021 and not 2017. We expect more from a coin than just being cheap and fast. > > Tl;dr: Nano has no competitive advantage or whatsover. It is claimed to be fast and cheap, which is true, however the same applies to L2 LN of bitcoin and many other altcoins. Aside from this, LN and other altcoins provide us with many more fuctionalities and use cases, making nano an obsolete coin of 2017. > > Nano spam attack: Because of its non-existant fees, it makes the network susceptible to a Sybil attack. Not mentioned in my original post, but add security risk to another con of nano network. This is proof to me that nano would never function as a global reserve currency. Link: Nano’s Network Flooded With Spam, Nodes Out of Sync (coindesk.com) ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC

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#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by pashtun92. > # A bearish case for Nano: a discussion about bitcoin's scalability and a comparison of Nano with other altcoins. > > Disclaimer: This argument has been used by myself in the last round. I have updated some of the arguments. > > Update: today nano has fallen out of top 200 coin! > > The arguments I have seen in this subreddit are always the same boring arguments: It is fast, free and compared with bitcoin it takes less energy. Nano proponants have entire graphs of electricity use and metaphors to "strenghten" their case. What they forget to mention is that it is exactly this high electricity cost which provides the security of bitcoin. I dare say that bitcoin is the most secured blockchain in the world. Aside from perhaps ethereum, I don't think there is any crypto which has transaction volumes of over billions of USD's. For good reason, mind you. > > Now let's dive deeper into the arguments provided by nano proponants. What I always find interesting, is that nano proponants always claim that bitcoin "is not scalable", knowing full well that this is not the truth. By now, anyone in the space knows of the L2 solution for bitcoin, the lightning network, which does exactly the same as nano does: giving instant and practically free transactions. > > However, when you mention this to a nano proponant, they always come back with the same boring argument: "Ya but there is only 7 TPS in the main chain layer, therefore, L2 is not scalable, as you would need on-chain transactions to open and close LN channels". This is false, I dare say even FUD, as we have something called the lightning channel factories which can scale LN to support the entire world. They are not yet in use, as LN has not reached it's capacity yet. > > The nano proponant proceeds with more FUD: "Ya but LN has many security issues, there is the famous flood & loot attack, you should google it". What the nano proponant either don't know, or as I would expect from them, consciously omit is that we already have a sort of "firewall" for this attack and this problem has been fixed. I suspect consciously because they always claim bitcoin is not scalable when this is obviously false and they know that too. > > So the conclusion we can draw from here is that nano holds no competitive advantage over bitcoin. In contrast, bitcoin DOES hold competitive advantages over nano. For one, the micropayments possible with LN (e.g. paying equivalanet of 0.001 dollar) opens the way to revolutionazing finance and how companies operate. For example, right now all podcast makers have to find "sponsers" to earn money with the podcast. But now it is possible to listen to podcasts through LN, making 0.001 dollar payment per minute, which is nothing for the listener, but can amount to a significant sum for the podcast creator. You could also do something like 'pay for what you watch' as opposed to having a subscription of 10 dollar/month even if you don't use it. > > Aside from this, there are also many other things you can do with LN which I will only briefly touch but link to here: > > It is possible to send messages (app like or email) through LN, completely private and encrypted > > Use atomic multipad payments (AMP) to send FILES through nodes in LN (e.g. an audio file) > > Call someone without anyone ever knowing through LN and even send money over if you wish so > > Decentralised finance (lending & borrowing bitcoin specifically) > > Earn satoshi's through playing games > > We also have important updates coming to the bitcoin network such as Schorr Signatures, RGB and possibly Eltoo. This would make the use of smart contracts very easy on bitcoin and pave the way for DEFI similar to the scale of ETH and others. > > What I find interesting about nano proponant is that they never, NEVER compare nano to other altcoins in their "bull case for nano". Why is this you may ask? The answer is obvious: anyone would immediatly notice that other altcoins can do what nano can and have much better functionality, use cases and backing. All nano can do is transact value from A to B, free and cheap. Let's take a look at a small list of other coins which can do pretty much the same, but also have the potential of DEFI: > > Ethereum (In DEFI, king of security) > > Solana ( In DEFI king of speed) > > Cardano ( In DEFI king of decentralisation) > > XLM > > IOTA > > ALGO > > Yet the nano proponant will claim that nano is undervalued, when it has no competitive advantage whatsoever. Some of them will claim that it is best used for "day to day transactions". Like outlined above, one could easily use LN for that and much more, making nano obsolete. Or if a person was keen on privacy, he or she would use monero for day to day transactions - which is as we all know the king of privacy. > > Nano proponant have a dream that some day it will overtop bitcoin. However, the truth is much harsher. For one, nano used to be a top 10 coin in 2017. Now it temporarily fell out of top 100 just a few months ago. I speculate that this downward trend will continue and nano will drop out of top 100 by the next bull cycle. In my opinion the only reason nano shillers shill this coin is because of personal greed and not fundamentals or use cases. We are living in 2021 and not 2017. We expect more from a coin than just being cheap and fast. > > Tl;dr: Nano has no competitive advantage or whatsover. It is claimed to be fast and cheap, which is true, however the same applies to L2 LN of bitcoin and many other altcoins. Aside from this, LN and other altcoins provide us with many more fuctionalities and use cases, making nano an obsolete coin of 2017. > > Nano spam attack: Because of its non-existant fees, it makes the network susceptible to a Sybil attack. Not mentioned in my original post, but add security risk to another con of nano network. This is proof to me that nano would never function as a global reserve currency. Link: Nano’s Network Flooded With Spam, Nodes Out of Sync (coindesk.com) ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by pashtun92. > # A bearish case for Nano: a discussion about bitcoin's scalability and a comparison of Nano with other altcoins. > > Disclaimer: This argument has been used by myself in the last round. I have updated some of the arguments. > > Update: today nano has fallen out of top 200 coin! > > The arguments I have seen in this subreddit are always the same boring arguments: It is fast, free and compared with bitcoin it takes less energy. Nano proponants have entire graphs of electricity use and metaphors to "strenghten" their case. What they forget to mention is that it is exactly this high electricity cost which provides the security of bitcoin. I dare say that bitcoin is the most secured blockchain in the world. Aside from perhaps ethereum, I don't think there is any crypto which has transaction volumes of over billions of USD's. For good reason, mind you. > > Now let's dive deeper into the arguments provided by nano proponants. What I always find interesting, is that nano proponants always claim that bitcoin "is not scalable", knowing full well that this is not the truth. By now, anyone in the space knows of the L2 solution for bitcoin, the lightning network, which does exactly the same as nano does: giving instant and practically free transactions. > > However, when you mention this to a nano proponant, they always come back with the same boring argument: "Ya but there is only 7 TPS in the main chain layer, therefore, L2 is not scalable, as you would need on-chain transactions to open and close LN channels". This is false, I dare say even FUD, as we have something called the lightning channel factories which can scale LN to support the entire world. They are not yet in use, as LN has not reached it's capacity yet. > > The nano proponant proceeds with more FUD: "Ya but LN has many security issues, there is the famous flood & loot attack, you should google it". What the nano proponant either don't know, or as I would expect from them, consciously omit is that we already have a sort of "firewall" for this attack and this problem has been fixed. I suspect consciously because they always claim bitcoin is not scalable when this is obviously false and they know that too. > > So the conclusion we can draw from here is that nano holds no competitive advantage over bitcoin. In contrast, bitcoin DOES hold competitive advantages over nano. For one, the micropayments possible with LN (e.g. paying equivalanet of 0.001 dollar) opens the way to revolutionazing finance and how companies operate. For example, right now all podcast makers have to find "sponsers" to earn money with the podcast. But now it is possible to listen to podcasts through LN, making 0.001 dollar payment per minute, which is nothing for the listener, but can amount to a significant sum for the podcast creator. You could also do something like 'pay for what you watch' as opposed to having a subscription of 10 dollar/month even if you don't use it. > > Aside from this, there are also many other things you can do with LN which I will only briefly touch but link to here: > > It is possible to send messages (app like or email) through LN, completely private and encrypted > > Use atomic multipad payments (AMP) to send FILES through nodes in LN (e.g. an audio file) > > Call someone without anyone ever knowing through LN and even send money over if you wish so > > Decentralised finance (lending & borrowing bitcoin specifically) > > Earn satoshi's through playing games > > We also have important updates coming to the bitcoin network such as Schorr Signatures, RGB and possibly Eltoo. This would make the use of smart contracts very easy on bitcoin and pave the way for DEFI similar to the scale of ETH and others. > > What I find interesting about nano proponant is that they never, NEVER compare nano to other altcoins in their "bull case for nano". Why is this you may ask? The answer is obvious: anyone would immediatly notice that other altcoins can do what nano can and have much better functionality, use cases and backing. All nano can do is transact value from A to B, free and cheap. Let's take a look at a small list of other coins which can do pretty much the same, but also have the potential of DEFI: > > Ethereum (In DEFI, king of security) > > Solana ( In DEFI king of speed) > > Cardano ( In DEFI king of decentralisation) > > XLM > > IOTA > > ALGO > > Yet the nano proponant will claim that nano is undervalued, when it has no competitive advantage whatsoever. Some of them will claim that it is best used for "day to day transactions". Like outlined above, one could easily use LN for that and much more, making nano obsolete. Or if a person was keen on privacy, he or she would use monero for day to day transactions - which is as we all know the king of privacy. > > Nano proponant have a dream that some day it will overtop bitcoin. However, the truth is much harsher. For one, nano used to be a top 10 coin in 2017. Now it temporarily fell out of top 100 just a few months ago. I speculate that this downward trend will continue and nano will drop out of top 100 by the next bull cycle. In my opinion the only reason nano shillers shill this coin is because of personal greed and not fundamentals or use cases. We are living in 2021 and not 2017. We expect more from a coin than just being cheap and fast. > > Tl;dr: Nano has no competitive advantage or whatsover. It is claimed to be fast and cheap, which is true, however the same applies to L2 LN of bitcoin and many other altcoins. Aside from this, LN and other altcoins provide us with many more fuctionalities and use cases, making nano an obsolete coin of 2017. > > Nano spam attack: Because of its non-existant fees, it makes the network susceptible to a Sybil attack. Not mentioned in my original post, but add security risk to another con of nano network. This is proof to me that nano would never function as a global reserve currency. Link: Nano’s Network Flooded With Spam, Nodes Out of Sync (coindesk.com) ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

One thing that I've always wondered for many many years now is how many of these cryptocurrencies announce partnerships or deals with corporations that the corporations don't even know about (because they're not real partnerships). I started wondering this back in the days of Nano with McDonalds or IOTA with Volkswagen. Now there's so many crypto projects that claim deals with very large corporations, I think one interesting angle for evaluating a cryptocurrency would be how many of these partnerships are actually verified vs speculation.

Mentions:#IOTA

They’ll have to pry my IOTA and Raiblocks, er, NANO from my cold dead hands.

Mentions:#IOTA
r/BitcoinSee Comment

After 25 hours of research I came to conclusion that Bitcoin is old tech and that IOTA is the next big thing.

Mentions:#IOTA

QUBIC - AI coin created by IOTA developer Come-from-Beyond.

Mentions:#IOTA

IOTA

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Just remember that people in 2017 were bullish on NEO, DASH, IOTA, NANO etc and look how that turned out. People in 2021 were bullish on NFTs, Defi, Play to earn, ALGO, Celsius etc. There were some "winners" from back then. Cardano, BNB and Vechain come to mind. But the vast majority will fade away into nothingness. I'm writing this as a word of caution for anyone coming in here to read about the latest shiny new alt coins

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Check IOTA?

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

If you are looking for a low cap coin, take a look at Shimmer(50m market cap) and IOTA(1B market cap). Shimmer has a great upside potential considering market cap. Technology brings: - feeless L1 - bridgeless L1-L2 transactions - no miners no mev - parallel transaction processing

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Here we go again. Price moved up a lot, so folks with unquestionable decision making bought in after a 10x, therefore Solana must be superior to Ethereum. Happened with DOT and ADA in 2021. Happened with NEO and IOTA in 2017. “This time is different”

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

roation rotation rotation is the name of the game. lol bro i belived in IOTA like 5 years ago. the name of the game has changed its about what you see first and capitalizing it

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Congrats! IOTA had a great Nov...

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

I bought a ton of IOTA a while back and saw it dip down to $50 worth. I’m sitting at $500 now

Mentions:#IOTA
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA
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#Nano Con-Arguments Below is a Nano con-argument written by IOTA_Tesla. > I’d say NANO’s biggest con is it’s limited use cases. > > NANO has two use cases: 1. Store of value, and 2. Feeless P2P currency. > > For use case #1, the argument for store of value is ultimately not very strong. BTC already captures the store of value market at the stage of full country adoption (not to mention company holdings). Competing for this market successfully is incredibly unlikely to outpace BTC and current price action reflects that. > > > Regarding use case #2, NANO makes a great way to transfer funds because of its feeless nature and speed. This however is incredibly limited in comparison to other more popular cryptos which can do the same. There are other cryptos which have incredibly low fees (micro pennies) and some even feeless. They can accomplish the same thing as NANO for fund transfers/P2P currency. But some of these coins have a great advantage to create stable coins on the network and transfer them at almost no fee (again some feeless as well). So why hold a volatile asset when you can transfer stable coins to Walmart for your eggs knowing the price won’t change in a week, a month, a year, during the next bear market, etc. > > > If NANO was a stable coin, it would be closer to the top 10 in market cap, but this doesn’t help price action. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find submissions for other topics.

Mentions:#IOTA#BTC
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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA
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I made a bunch of money with IOTA back in 2017. I don't hold any now but it's what really got me into crypto.

Mentions:#IOTA
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I don't think you understand what decentralization means. It doesn't mean every node has to be individuals on a PC, or all validators represent the same tiny percentage as all other validators. You're talking about a specific type of distribution of nodes, like the Tangle with IOTA. There's many types of decentralized distribution of nodes. And having individual on a PC running the validation, doesn't necessarily make for a better blockchain. Decentralization simply means that there is no single validator that holds 51% of more of the power for too long. If the biggest entity is no larger than 49%, then it's completely decentralized.

Mentions:#PC#IOTA
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The European Commissions EBSI programme is likely to be built on IOTA, as for buying: https://www.iota.org/get-started/buy-iota Other exchanges are available but I’m only posting an official link.

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Why do you say it's a scam? Idk much about it. It reminds me of IOTA

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IOTA, whatever you think of the past performance the UAE have gone in big time with the foundation. Oil money isn’t to everyone’s taste but they’re in it to make a shed load more money.

Mentions:#IOTA
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Pure speculation without substance. Only coins with a real outlook where institutions might build on them are things like Algorand, XRP, HBAR and for some reason IOTA.

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Here's one way to assess 'older' coins, go to coin gecko, select a coin, change the timeframe to MAX and look at the chart. Examples Looking good - ETH, ADA: the peaks are ascending. Until proven wrong this is the trend. Assume the next peak will be higher than the last. Not looking good - XRP, NEO, IOTA: the peaks are descending. Until proven wrong this is the trend. Assume the next peak will be lower than the last. This doesn't really help you with HBAR, LINK, DOT, SOL as they've only done 1 cycle, but might help you decide to avoid some of the older ones. No guarantees of course, one of those old coins could potentially have a breakout for some reason (but it should be obvious in advance from news)

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In practice, Nano gets congested whenever demand is higher than what people are willing to validate for free. Socially, even if people adopted Nano and voluntarist validators could handle the demand for free, this would be concentrated among a particular group of people with specific interests on the project. Technically, the block lattice is just equivalent to individual transactions and individual transactions being aggregated and finalized is just equivalent to a block. Same for IOTA. Whenever two accounts interact a single view of the state of the ledger is needed in any case.

Mentions:#IOTA
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Mentions:#DAG#IOTA

IOTA 20x

Mentions:#IOTA
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the lead researcher for IOTA would become an advisor for a scam. We will revisit this again after mainnet is released. And you can continue to call something a scam that you know absolutely nothing about.

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$ONI is the lowest market cap there and have many great partnerships and advisors such as IOTA lead researcher. Still has testnet and mainnet to be launched in the next few days to months so it's high risk but high reward. $SPACE (MVC Global) is a similar situation with a really ambitious project but as its to do with BTC if it performs well it will inevitably do very well again a bit more high risk. $ZEPH is an over collateralised stable coin so think LUNA but also for privacy, got a great narrative that did very well last bull until the crash. All.these are high risk so it depends on your risk tolerance but you should also DYOR.

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IOTA

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I've set up crypto mining operations in the oil field, often times the wells have unwanted gasses that can't be sold at a profit, that gas is simply falred off, not great for the environment. Instead we use those flare offs to produce electricity and profit off the btc we mine. Using that gas to produce electricity for the miners is actually cleaner than simply burning it off. Aside from that I like coins like IOTA that require very little power to run their networks.

Mentions:#IOTA
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Maybe you missed it, but IOTA just did +117% gain in 4 days in the very early stages of the bull market (especially for alts) - that's actually pretty impressive by any standards. Hint: Dead projects don't do that. I wouldn't obsess too much about the ATH and the 2021 top being lower - the only thing this reveals is that in the CRAZY 2018 altseason IOTA was among the most hyped up projects and in the much more modest 2021 altseason it was outside the most hyped up projects. That's it. It doesn't tell you ANYTHING about the actual state of the project, especially now, 2.5 years later after a few major releases. The point is: whole this time IOTA kept building and getting considerably closer to fulfilling their vision. From fundamental perspective IOTA is stronger now than it ever was. Long term price chart always has to conform to the reality eventually - that's why I think it's unreasonable to think that IOTA can't print a new ATH.

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IOTA is the most interesting crypto, honestly

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I believe that the FOMO has already started. YTD performance of some of my tokens are incredible... INJ 1100%+, DAFI 120%+, AIOZ 350%+. Other tokens are skyrocketing on the last 3M. DIA 35%+, IOTA 85%+, RPL 30%+. BTC and ETH will push alts good in the next bull run.

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IOTA solved the "Blockchain Trilemma"

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The keys are only the means to an end. I’m also here for decentralised immutable technology, and I used to be heavily invested into ETH from the initial ICO. I was there for the various updates, chain throttle (ckitties), the DAO hack, ETC fork, many embarrassing moments, (badger dance). I had most if not all of my life savings invested. Back then I had to put my full faith in the developers, that they knew what they were doing, and it paid off. I didn’t believe they would sabotage their own work. While I dislike the existence of the keys in Cardano today. I still find it to have incredible potential, and once those “training wheels” are removed next year, I will get to have my cake, and eat it too. I participated in IOTA as well back in the day. (what a mess.) And while I’m not the biggest fan of Charles, I believe he has his heart in the right place.

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I used to be a big holder of IOTA, but I lost faith years ago. Not even FOMO, nice to see it rise. I question why the IOTA foundation went and made a second layer "Shimmer" traded on Bitfinex. I prefer XNO to IOTA, still do. Come From Beyond, has made currency, all on his own Qubic. But, since going on the markets, (August, september) the price (from OTC) has risen 650%. Its a $250M marketcap coin, that is yet to be added to Coinmarketcap.

Mentions:#IOTA#XNO
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>Everyone buying IOTA All 5 of them?

Mentions:#IOTA
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Everyone buying IOTA realises the devs just decided to print 30-40% more of the supply to fund themselves right? After years of touting a fixed supply and decentralization, they decided to use their central control over the network to make the change without any input from users/network operators. This is where the money is coming from for the UAE fund (well i'm 90% sure of this).

Mentions:#IOTA
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IOTA finally going up instead of down. Bull market confirmed.

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Can we just talk about IOTA making big moves?! Anyone else starting feel a tiny glimmer of hope lol

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Adoption *of what*? Your IOTA bags aren't going anywhere. What does "improved user experience" look like? Does it look the same for bitcoin as it does for uniswap? There's not going to be a dogecoin ETF. Not all cryptos are the same. Their UX flows from their form and function, how they're adopted is more important than whether they're adopted, and their utility will determine who they are adopted by. Do you want bitcoin adoption? It's already well on it's way, the UX is fine. Ethereum? Regular Joe is not going to use it, people that trade securities will. Algorand? Good luck. The truth is, "adoption" is a mirage, it is not well defined. 99% of this stuff will not be adopted because 99% of it is hot garbage.

Mentions:#IOTA#ETF#UX