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What would you do with $100k right now.

Check Out The Tezos Ecosystem Career Fair On Reddit’s Most Popular Cryptocurrency Subreddit r/Cryptocurrency Friday, May 20th

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Ethereum & Tezos holder here: My mental health is fine

BTC Dropped below $27,000.00 USD. Where do we see the next floor?

I know what I own. We invest, not purchase.

LOL I’ve Never Been in the Green

Top 5 cryptocurrencies to watch this week: BTC, ALGO, XMR, XTZ, THETA

Bear Market Strategy: Recurring Buys

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It looks like Coinbase has taken a page from Crypto.Com's book

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Tezos (XTZ) Price Prediction 2022: Is $30 EOY Price Possible? - CNL

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Tezos introduces new consensus mechanism within protocol upgrade Ithaca

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Have you noticed that ADA is the best performing major asset during bullruns?

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Binance.US discontinuing staking

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Why I think Tezos is one of the most legitimate projects in crypto.

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How about we all show each other our PPs and rate them

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One Year Alt-Coin DCA+ Experiment - Week 22 mid-week Update

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How to diversify past Bitcoin

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Coinbase Sued For Selling 79 Crypto Assets, Including XRP, ADA, SOL, XLM, SHIB, DOGE, XTZ, As Unregistered Securities

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Coinbase Sued For Selling 79 Crypto, Including XRP, ADA, SOL, XLM, SHIB, DOGE, XTZ, As Unregistered Securities

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Will Tezos Reach $100 and How Soon Could This Happen?

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What is Tezos (XTZ)?

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I'm new to this, how can I stake coins in Canada?

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Digital Birthday Calls For Digital Presents

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Funny thing happened…

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Other Layer One protocols are not ready to do battle with ETH

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Top 5 cryptocurrencies to watch this week: BTC, LEO, MANA, KLAY, XTZ

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Let’s talk about carbon emissions and my thoughts on regulations possibly to come in crypto.

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Max Cooper - Offering NFTs for new album

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Ledger Live and Tezos

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The NBA team Cleveland Cavaliers have launched their NFT marketplace on Tezos (XTZ)

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Hacker stole my $500K worth of tokens on 17 August 2021 help me to find them

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Top 5 Best Staking Coins Compared In 2022

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Decentraland (MANA), Tezos (XTZ) and Three Other Altcoins Are Spearheading Crypto Rally: Insights Firm Santiment

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Struggling with Cryptocurrency Taxes for FY21

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Some inside information with regard to Tezos (xtz) and Man United

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Tezos price analysis: XTZ/USD pair bullish for the next 24 hours

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Started to panic when my XTZ transaction wasn't showing up in my cold wallet... had I done what everyone warned me about?

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Tezos XTZ is a crypto for the people (here´s why)

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Tezos just signed a £20 million per year deal with football club Manchester United - home of Christiano Ronaldo - to sponsor and plaster XTZ on their kits and likely further dive into NFT team merchandise

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Which cryptos should be staked and are potentially losing out on gains when holding in your own wallet?

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Activity on Tezos ($XTZ) Network Explodes After Number of Smart Contracts Triples

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Tezos price analysis: XTZ breaks at $3.8 as bullish succession continues | Cryptopolitan

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Accept Tezos Coin | XTZ Payment Gateway | NOWPayments

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Is it time to think differently about long term crypto investments?

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CoinShares lists world’s first crypto ETPs with transparent staking rewards and reduced management fees for XTZ and DOT

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We need some hopium to get high and forget. This is what I am doing during this time of red colour!

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What's one project that you believe in that you DON'T hold?

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Tezos: nonstop censorship & number go down

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Kraken & Matic

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Why I think Tezos is one of the most legitimate projects in crypto.

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Be careful of advertising

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Apparel Giant Gap Launches NFTs on Tezos (XTZ)

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Tezos Ecosystem: List of ecosystem deliveries announced for Q1 2022 (XTZ)

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What Is Ergo (ERG)?

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DeFi, am I doing it right?

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Leveraging - a double edge sword: Most "down" tokens are up whilst the rest of the market is down

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Just Put Your Money In Rookie Cards

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"Unlike Bitcoin and Ethereum, Tezos’ vision is that hard forks shouldn’t be a standard way to upgrade the system over time. That’s why the core value proposition of XTZ is to be a self-governing project."

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All projects with a ticker starting with "X" are probably dying

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My Crypto 2021 recap - how was yours?

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Honest question: why are APR/APY% that high on Tezos for farming using Stable/BTC/ETH/XTZ ?

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What coins have a minimum balance?

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Web3 is a topic that is being discussed lately and I am interested in the safest web3 wallet available, is there any?

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People are wilfully ignorant towards crypto's actual energy consumption

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List of Countries with Low/Negative Real Interest Rates and Why We Need DeFi

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XTZ Still Down Despite Rarible’s Recent Tezos Integration

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You're Selling Yourself Short By Staking On Exchanges, Mainly Crypto.com

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XTZ coins missing from transfer sent from coinbase to kucoin....Please help

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Missing my XTZ coins in kucoin that i sent from coinbase and Kucoin keeps removing my post in there community!

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DCAing to a Balanced Portfolio?

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NVT Network Value Transactions Ratio for all smart Blockchains with data known & Bitcoin

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NVT Network Value Transactions Ratio for all smart Blockchains with data & Bitcoin : for ADA lowest lines, ETH Pink, BTC blue, XTZ yellow, MATIC white, BNB red. (why is ADA 10 times lower as the rest? ) (adjusted transaction volume, probably for UTxO also)

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Yes, most alts have 'died' in the bear market in the past, but that doesn't mean this time will be the exact same!

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Hot from the XTZ ovens! The Baking Sheet - Issue #77 Ubisoft, Art Basel, Pantone??

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[BTC & ETH] DCA vs LSI vs BTD : what was best in 2021 ? (Based on my very own case)

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Tezos XTZ the ETH killer?

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Tezos (XTZ) Is Getting Momentum for Bullish Run

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Pantone ‘Color of the Year’ Gets the NFT Treatment on Tezos (XTZ)

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After the Community backlash and Partnership with XTZ, Ubisoft delisted its NFT announcement as YouTube dislikes top 22,000.

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Tezos XTZ PUMPING Soon!?!

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Tezos XTZ PUMPING Soon!?!

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Algorand Versus Tezos

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Is it unwise to have less than 20% of my portfolio in BTC and ETH?

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3 reasons why Tezos (XTZ) price broke its downtrend with a 50% rally

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Algorand VS Tezos Comparison

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5 cryptos in the top 50 that no one here talks about

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XTZ up 34% on the day

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Ultimate Guide to Cryptocurrency Wallets - for newbies and veterans alike

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1 Year Alt-Coin DCA Experiment - Week 7 Teaser/Mini-update

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Power of HODL and DCA (how to be green during the crash)

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Coins substitute strategy needed

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Meta/Oculus quest users: If you own NFTs on BSC, ETH, or XTZ, then we have a VR application where you can put them to use! Instructions in the comments of this post!

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Any fees are better than these spreads, it’s criminal EToro, look at the spread on XTZ and BNB

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” I must Throw this out for everyone to catch only cause I’m sure your doing your thing & many of u cant see how desperate Ethereum became wit 40k drop offs & like ADA with the sheer marketing desperation, both are fragile & will eventually fragment”

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How do exchanges pay "rewards" and "interest"?

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Deciding which top coins are difficult, so I will need to assess the opportunity cost

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Tezos/XTZ

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State of the Crypto - Nov 30, 2021

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PSA: Secure your blockchain domain before someone else does!

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This is a dumb take. First, private wallets have nothing to do with this crash whatsoever. This entire situation boils down to the rules governing the staking itself, which are all going to vary wildly from protocol to protocol and service to service. Take Algorand for example - their staking implicitly demands you lock your funds, and *actively* participate in government of the protocol, or you lose your rewards. I took one look at that and walked the other way. While it's a positive for their whales and holders - it insures people are psychologically invested and active in the community - for casual holders it's a commitment as well a liability. Tezos, by contrast, has multiple options. You can bake and delegate. The former is more similar to traditional staking where you lock up funds to generate more Tezos, but the threshold for entry is about 8,000 XTZ, or about 7 ETH. If you're relatively new to crypto that isn't pocket money so it more or less demands you know what you're doing or have enough money that it won't matter to you if you don't. The other option, delegation, is open to pretty much anyone with any amount of Tezos. From your wallet, you pick a baker in the system and delegate your total to them. So someone with 8,000 XTZ receiving a delegation from someone with 100 will bake at 8100 instead. The baker receives rewards commensurate with that higher threshold, and then parcels the rewards back to the delegator minus any fees they charge for the service (usually a single digit percentage but there are plenty of bakers which don't even charge). The delegate keeps everything in their wallet, remains entirely liquid, and is not penalized for moving or removing funds at any point. Basically the point is blaming staking for this is tantamount for saying "if it wasn't for crypto people wouldn't have lose money." It's such a general and useless assertion for blame you might as well be attacking the concept of value itself. If you're going to start assigning blame, start identifying which protocols are using the same policies and systems as Luna did and work out from there.

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#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

When my alt hits ATH, I sell all of it. That worked pretty damn well for me with ADA, XTZ, DOT, and LRC.

ETH XTZ BTC You can't go wrong dcaing with real projects

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Hey guys! I got Covid and went in a coma on Nov 12th. Just woke up! Sick dip on my favorite coins. Gonna buy some ALGO, MATIC, XRP, XTZ, GRT, MANA. What else should I get?

In order of portfolio %: ETH, BTC, CRO, ALGO, XTZ

Bitcoin, Tezos (XTZ) & youves (YOU) - youves is an over collateralised (with tezos) synthetic assets platform and trading at a nice discount with the market madness

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I'm holding XTZ .. Good to see you are also. Shame to see so many who look past all that Tezos has achieved & fail to see the path it has taken. No big paydays for shillers on Tezos .. Pure natural growth & its working .. User numbers, contract calls etc all continue to rise.. It's 10th protocol upgrade Jakarta just passed the quorum exploration phase of voting . So 9 upgrades thus far & no hard forks . All have ran smooth as anything. No other chain can manage this level of evolution .. All governed by hodlers of XTZ .. Decentralisation the way blockchain was suppose to be.. Guided by the hodlers.. The people..

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#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

Just DCAing into BTC. I am keeping a close eye on ADA, ALGO, FTM, MATIC, XTZ, & AMP though.

BAND, XTZ, XNO, Moons

Mentions:#BAND#XTZ#XNO

I'm willing to hold on my Algo, Atom, Cardano and XTZ long term.

Mentions:#XTZ

Algorand and others like ONE and XTZ are excellent projects. Doesn't make them a good investment because they still need buzz and traction to get a good ROI

Mentions:#ONE#XTZ#ROI

No fortunately for me I had SOL already. Close price point to LUNA so never got any. I hold BTC, ETH, SOL, XTZ, XMR, and DOT. I mine a little RVN on the side. It is sad about LUNA I do feel bad for all the people who lost way more than I am down because I highly doubt it will ever recover.

I’ll just continue to DCA into BTC and HODL ETH. I’ll continue to HODL XMR as well, because it survived prior crypto winters. I have MATIC, ADA, XTZ, ALGO, FTM, & AMP in my watchlist.

Tezos holder checking in. My mental health is fine too, especially since I been using my XTZ in the Tezos ecosystem too.

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#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

What coins have survived past bear markets? I know ADA, XTZ, XMR, & LINK off the top of my head. Anything else?

#Proof-of-Stake Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Proof-of-Stake Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Reusing from [my previous entry here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfoke5/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_pos_conarguments/hd7dme2/). > > *Disclosure: (assuming Ethereum successfully transitions to PoS) ~50-60% of my current portfolio is in PoS coins, not including tokens that run on those chains* > > #PoS Con Argument > > Just a note that there are [lots of variations](https://www.finyear.com/photo/art/default/31320255-29572660.jpg?v=1551793721) on the Proof of Stake consensus model - e.g., [Proof of Staked Authority](https://github.com/binance-chain/whitepaper/blob/master/WHITEPAPER.md#consensus-and-validator-quorum) (BSC), [Pure Proof of Stake](https://www.algorand.com/technology/pure-proof-of-stake) (ALGO), Bonded Proof of Stake (ATOM), Delegated Proof of Stake (EOS), Liquid Proof of Stake (XTZ), Nominated Proof of Stake (DOT) etc. Different implementations have different tradeoffs, but I'll try to keep the main arguments general. > > ##Wealth and control > > - As other con arguments mention, PoS consensus favors big players and can [lead to centralization of wealth and control](https://medium.com/stakin/centralization-of-stake-in-pos-f7ccb8f8254). > > - In the absence of staking pools or delegators, the necessary capital required to self-stake (+ hardware costs) can exclude smaller participants: > > - [If you got in early, then you have a larger stake - and your position is basically guaranteed since you had a head start in earning rewards](https://www.coinbureau.com/blockchain/proof-of-activity-explained-hybrid-consensus-algorithm/#Introducing_Proof_of_Stake). > > - If you have a bigger stake you're probably in a position to hoard it, accruing compound interest and solidifying your position as a whale. > > * Airdrops are great, but if they're based off a snapshot of staked holdings ('stakedrop') then the rich get richer (some projects have tried to make [fairer distributions](https://medium.com/osmosis/osmo-token-distribution-ae27ea2bb4db), but [whales gonna do whale things](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/q8y550/centralization_issue_in_juno/)). > > - The bonding/unbonding periods of some protocols disincentivize participation from less wealthy users who may need to keep their assets liquid in the face of market volatility (i.e. opportunity cost). E.g., ATOM has a 21 day unbonding period. > > - Even if you delegate your stake to validators, there is a centralization of power/wealth: > > - The lack of incentive for smaller participants to be active in the voting process undermines the system's democratic intentions: > > > "[This leaves the door open for the whales to have a more direct influence over the network, especially if they are also able to take control of masses of smaller votes via proxy.](https://www.coinbureau.com/education/delegated-proof-stake-dpos/#Disadvantages_of_DPoS)" > > - Entrusting validation to a small group of participants introduces trust into the equation - delegates could form cartels making the blockchain less decentralized and less resilient to attacks. > > - Cartels aren't just a theoretical issue - historical examples include **EOS**, which has a [vote buying system](https://research.binance.com/en/analysis/eos-governance) leading to [accusations of cartels bribing an exchange](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/10/04/vote-buying-scandal-stokes-fears-of-eos-governance-failure/) and **LISK** which had a [cartel](https://np.reddit.com/r/Lisk/comments/8dwwqa/delegates_or_delegateyou_decide/) likened to [the mafia](https://medium.com/coinmonks/lisk-the-mafia-blockchain-47248915ae2f). > > - Various examples of centralization on more notable chains include: > > - **ADA**: [Binance has 12% of the total stake](https://adapools.org/groups). As /u\/Eagle-Pool explained in [this post](https://np.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/muf1ap/why_staking_your_ada_with_binance_is_a_bad_idea/): > > >"Cardano created [Enterprise Wallets](https://docs.cardano.org/en/latest/learn/types-addresses.html) that were meant to be used by exchanges that shouldn't carry stake rights. Clearly, Binance isn't using those since they've created so many pools. If they participate in Catalyst voting, they have enough Ada to make or break any project." > > - **ATOM**: [CEXs \(Binance, Coinbase and Kraken\) hold ~17% of the staking power](https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/validators). > > - **BNB**: [21 validators and if you want to be one you'll need a minimum 10,000 BNB](https://docs.binance.org/smart-chain/validator/Parameters.html). Meanwhile, [Binance owns ~80% of BNB](https://www.coincarp.com/currencies/binance-coin/richlist/). > > - **ETH**: running your own [validator requires 32 ETH](https://github.com/ethereum/annotated-spec/blob/master/phase0/beacon-chain.md#gwei-values). [~20% of validators belong to whales and centralized exchanges.](https://beaconcha.in/charts/deposits_distribution) > > - **DOT**: would recommend the [DOT Con Argument thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2peh/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_polkadot/) for specifics on the confusing election and nomination aspects of the governance system. [The minimum required stake needs to be higher than the least staked validator](https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/faq#what-is-the-minimum-stake-necessary-to-be-elected-as-an-active-validator), currently [1.6M DOT](https://ipfs.io/ipns/polkadot.dotapps.io/#/staking/targets). > > - Lastly, there's also centralization to consider given validators' reliance on infrastructure providers like AWS, [Bison Trails](https://bisontrails.co/protocols/) or [Infura for ETH](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/ethereums-infura-iating-outage-revives-decentralization-concerns) and software clients ([like Geth for ETH](https://medium.com/coinmonks/how-eth-2-0-could-resolve-the-long-running-centralization-debate-c416b394e54c)). > > > > ###Subjectivity > > - This may be a bit more technical, so bear with me. > > - There is trust involved not just when delegating to a validator, but also at a more fundamental level - how PoS nodes connecting to the network 'learn' what the 'truth' is, i.e. how to sync and validate the correct chain: > > - PoW networks like Bitcoin's are **objective**: [when a new node comes online it can determine the 'truth' based off the protocol and the history of previous blocks](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/). > > - On the other end of the spectrum is a network like Ripple, which is **subjective**: [all the nodes are sort of doing their own thing to determine what the truth is. The network thus requires nodes to have reputation, otherwise anyone could spin up a bunch of nodes to take over](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/) (i.e., [Sybil Attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack)). > > - PoS falls in the middle, it's '**[weakly subjective](https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity)**': [when a new node comes online it has to find someone to tell it what the truth is so it can sync up. Reliance on a trusted third party thus adds a small but non-zero amount of risk not found in the PoW security model](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/). ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6voht/general_concepts_round_pos_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Proof_of_Stake) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/umsqe8/monthly_optimists_discussion_may_2022/).

Not mad, I continue to buy more XTZ and XRP daily. Another £100 buy this morning.

Mentions:#XTZ#XRP

As an XTZ bag holder I’m extremely optimistic about its chances of surviving the bear market. Very active dev team with constant updates, it’s a hidden gem. Averaging down and staking

Mentions:#XTZ

Tezos (XTZ) and Youves (YOU)

Mentions:#XTZ

DOT, LINK, XTZ, MATIC AND VELAS those are my alts, all dead (-50% or more) was tempted to avg down at this price, instead of that dropped all my remaining fiat to ETH and locked it away.. I don't count Luna anymore as part of my alts... Crazy days in did.

DOT, LINK, XTZ, MATIC AND VELAS those are my alts, all dead (-50% or more) was tempted to avg down at this price, instead of that dropped all my remaining fiat to ETH and locked it away.. I don't count Luna anymore as part of my alts... Crazy days in did.

Balls deep in ALGO and have some XTZ and DOT. This is either going to be a dumpster fire or a new Lambo.

Mentions:#ALGO#XTZ#DOT

This crash is just terrifying. What am I going to wake up to tomorrow? $0.90 XTZ? $0.25 LRC?

Mentions:#XTZ#LRC

I've got MATIC, DOT, VET, SNX, and ADA, in descending order of holdings. I picked up some XTZ during the dip and am looking to dump my CRO as soon as I can. I'll probably put that money into whatever is dumping the hardest - right now that's looking like MATIC or DOT.

I’m not sure if Tezos (XTZ) is identified as “altcoin” however I’m pretty sure it will survive and make it to the top 10z

Mentions:#XTZ

Grabbing up some XTZ now!

Mentions:#XTZ

ALGO, ADA, DOT, XTZ, and MATIC will all still be here.

XTZ. Never needed hype

Mentions:#XTZ

Do I buy more CRO or add to my SOL, XTZ, ADA stacks?

I have scaling buy orders set the whole way down on price! Now the interesting part comes waiting to see how many trigger and how long they take to trigger. If I believed in XTZ before seeing it this cheap, I sure as hell am going to stack it now too.

Mentions:#XTZ

Maybe now ppl will invest in projects and not hype. With that said. Buy XTZ

Mentions:#XTZ

LTC, ALGO, ADA, ATOM, XTZ. Aka all my bags.

So, during this bear market I’m going to average down constantly until the following: (disclaimer my eth and btc positions are built) LINK, GRT, ALGO, REN. — maybe XTZ Rate this plan and/or coins

I stake ALGO and XTZ with a ledger. I have DOT too, but it's easier to just get 12% via kraken and not have to worry about minimums, slashing, etc.

Mentions:#ALGO#XTZ#DOT

So real = ALGO, ATOM, ADA, ZIL. XTZ etc. Fake = Stake coin x on our earn platform for APY %1337 more or less?

XTZ ? Tezos is still breathing or just wigling his last % of "oxigen" ? I hodld them for some time, but when they pumped and gave profits, I sold them with no thinking. I'm wondering howcome people don't mention more kadena and kaddex, but they are all about litecoin, ada, solana, and luna nowdays, even after they got ppl rekt and played with things that shouldn't been played with.

Mentions:#XTZ

Bought a bit more of ETH and XTZ. Haven’t sold during this crash.

Mentions:#ETH#XTZ

If you stake to a Coinbase baker (XTZ), then no. However, if your XTZ is stored and staked in their platform, then yes.

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They dont. Tezos is in the process of scaling with layer 2, and there is no token. Only XTZ. That is how it is done the right way. No need for a 2nd token.

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Tezos XTZ. Built to adapt and evolve.

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Agree! The NFT action on Tezos is just heating up. I’m loading up on XTZ. For anyone interested, check out objkt.com for the action.

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No dips for me tonight, my card got blocked again for suspicious activities, I have to wait for Tomorrow morning to unlock it, XTZ just hit my 2.00 target for a moment.

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Bought the dip on XTZ and ALG.

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I'll add: Algorand, Matic and dare I say it XTZ to the list.

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I bought ALG and XTZ. This is a great entry point for the next run in a year or two. I sold most of my crypto in November after realizing 2021 was like 2017 all over again.

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#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

XTZ and ALGO for sure, I'm holding both and always got eyes on them. XPRESS is another one I'm watching that I feel could be gearing up for a big move soon.

Not a good time in the market but yeah, it's not going to stay that for long I believe. If BTC bounces back above 40k then we can say welcome to the new bull market. I'm still buying a few alts, like XTZ DOT MATIC AGLD and BBANK which are my top bags currently.

For me it's BTC, DOT, LOX, XTZ, AVAX

#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

This week's assets on my watch list are ETH, PNT, VET, and XTZ, so I can comfortably stake XTZ on my Sylo smart wallet to earn 6% APY.

100% XTZ portfolio. All I have is staking. 🤞🏻 See y'all in 2024.

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#Proof-of-Stake Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Proof-of-Stake Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Reusing from [my previous entry here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfoke5/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_pos_conarguments/hd7dme2/). > > *Disclosure: (assuming Ethereum successfully transitions to PoS) ~50-60% of my current portfolio is in PoS coins, not including tokens that run on those chains* > > #PoS Con Argument > > Just a note that there are [lots of variations](https://www.finyear.com/photo/art/default/31320255-29572660.jpg?v=1551793721) on the Proof of Stake consensus model - e.g., [Proof of Staked Authority](https://github.com/binance-chain/whitepaper/blob/master/WHITEPAPER.md#consensus-and-validator-quorum) (BSC), [Pure Proof of Stake](https://www.algorand.com/technology/pure-proof-of-stake) (ALGO), Bonded Proof of Stake (ATOM), Delegated Proof of Stake (EOS), Liquid Proof of Stake (XTZ), Nominated Proof of Stake (DOT) etc. Different implementations have different tradeoffs, but I'll try to keep the main arguments general. > > ##Wealth and control > > - As other con arguments mention, PoS consensus favors big players and can [lead to centralization of wealth and control](https://medium.com/stakin/centralization-of-stake-in-pos-f7ccb8f8254). > > - In the absence of staking pools or delegators, the necessary capital required to self-stake (+ hardware costs) can exclude smaller participants: > > - [If you got in early, then you have a larger stake - and your position is basically guaranteed since you had a head start in earning rewards](https://www.coinbureau.com/blockchain/proof-of-activity-explained-hybrid-consensus-algorithm/#Introducing_Proof_of_Stake). > > - If you have a bigger stake you're probably in a position to hoard it, accruing compound interest and solidifying your position as a whale. > > * Airdrops are great, but if they're based off a snapshot of staked holdings ('stakedrop') then the rich get richer (some projects have tried to make [fairer distributions](https://medium.com/osmosis/osmo-token-distribution-ae27ea2bb4db), but [whales gonna do whale things](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/q8y550/centralization_issue_in_juno/)). > > - The bonding/unbonding periods of some protocols disincentivize participation from less wealthy users who may need to keep their assets liquid in the face of market volatility (i.e. opportunity cost). E.g., ATOM has a 21 day unbonding period. > > - Even if you delegate your stake to validators, there is a centralization of power/wealth: > > - The lack of incentive for smaller participants to be active in the voting process undermines the system's democratic intentions: > > > "[This leaves the door open for the whales to have a more direct influence over the network, especially if they are also able to take control of masses of smaller votes via proxy.](https://www.coinbureau.com/education/delegated-proof-stake-dpos/#Disadvantages_of_DPoS)" > > - Entrusting validation to a small group of participants introduces trust into the equation - delegates could form cartels making the blockchain less decentralized and less resilient to attacks. > > - Cartels aren't just a theoretical issue - historical examples include **EOS**, which has a [vote buying system](https://research.binance.com/en/analysis/eos-governance) leading to [accusations of cartels bribing an exchange](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/10/04/vote-buying-scandal-stokes-fears-of-eos-governance-failure/) and **LISK** which had a [cartel](https://np.reddit.com/r/Lisk/comments/8dwwqa/delegates_or_delegateyou_decide/) likened to [the mafia](https://medium.com/coinmonks/lisk-the-mafia-blockchain-47248915ae2f). > > - Various examples of centralization on more notable chains include: > > - **ADA**: [Binance has 12% of the total stake](https://adapools.org/groups). As /u\/Eagle-Pool explained in [this post](https://np.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/muf1ap/why_staking_your_ada_with_binance_is_a_bad_idea/): > > >"Cardano created [Enterprise Wallets](https://docs.cardano.org/en/latest/learn/types-addresses.html) that were meant to be used by exchanges that shouldn't carry stake rights. Clearly, Binance isn't using those since they've created so many pools. If they participate in Catalyst voting, they have enough Ada to make or break any project." > > - **ATOM**: [CEXs \(Binance, Coinbase and Kraken\) hold ~17% of the staking power](https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/validators). > > - **BNB**: [21 validators and if you want to be one you'll need a minimum 10,000 BNB](https://docs.binance.org/smart-chain/validator/Parameters.html). Meanwhile, [Binance owns ~80% of BNB](https://www.coincarp.com/currencies/binance-coin/richlist/). > > - **ETH**: running your own [validator requires 32 ETH](https://github.com/ethereum/annotated-spec/blob/master/phase0/beacon-chain.md#gwei-values). [~20% of validators belong to whales and centralized exchanges.](https://beaconcha.in/charts/deposits_distribution) > > - **DOT**: would recommend the [DOT Con Argument thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2peh/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_polkadot/) for specifics on the confusing election and nomination aspects of the governance system. [The minimum required stake needs to be higher than the least staked validator](https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/faq#what-is-the-minimum-stake-necessary-to-be-elected-as-an-active-validator), currently [1.6M DOT](https://ipfs.io/ipns/polkadot.dotapps.io/#/staking/targets). > > - Lastly, there's also centralization to consider given validators' reliance on infrastructure providers like AWS, [Bison Trails](https://bisontrails.co/protocols/) or [Infura for ETH](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/ethereums-infura-iating-outage-revives-decentralization-concerns) and software clients ([like Geth for ETH](https://medium.com/coinmonks/how-eth-2-0-could-resolve-the-long-running-centralization-debate-c416b394e54c)). > > > > ###Subjectivity > > - This may be a bit more technical, so bear with me. > > - There is trust involved not just when delegating to a validator, but also at a more fundamental level - how PoS nodes connecting to the network 'learn' what the 'truth' is, i.e. how to sync and validate the correct chain: > > - PoW networks like Bitcoin's are **objective**: [when a new node comes online it can determine the 'truth' based off the protocol and the history of previous blocks](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/). > > - On the other end of the spectrum is a network like Ripple, which is **subjective**: [all the nodes are sort of doing their own thing to determine what the truth is. The network thus requires nodes to have reputation, otherwise anyone could spin up a bunch of nodes to take over](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/) (i.e., [Sybil Attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack)). > > - PoS falls in the middle, it's '**[weakly subjective](https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity)**': [when a new node comes online it has to find someone to tell it what the truth is so it can sync up. Reliance on a trusted third party thus adds a small but non-zero amount of risk not found in the PoW security model](https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/25/proof-stake-learned-love-weak-subjectivity/). ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6voht/general_concepts_round_pos_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Proof_of_Stake) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ufshqo/monthly_skeptics_discussion_may_2022/).

#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 artists and which will involve $100m/year in royalties [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases/siae). > * ALGO was recently featured in a World Economic Forum (WEF) report on cryptocurrency - listed as a recommended "VIP" blockchain that solves issues with BTC/ETH and proof-of-stake [(Source)](http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Getting_Started_Cryptocurrency_2021.pdf). This document will be seen by institutions, banks and economists worldwide. > > The list goes on and on [Here.](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/use-cases) > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is already being deployed for large-scale and institutional solutions - despite only launching \~2y ago. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmttc/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_algorand_proarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Algorand) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.

I'm doing this with XTZ, ETH and VET... as for the last one... don't look at me like that, I still have hopes.

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so is XTZ for some reason, only down 35% lol

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XTZ overall trend is that the lows have been higher year over year if we hold above $2 its a bullish sign

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look at XTZ & ALGo last 7 days, 24 hrs and today...holding steady

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look at what is holding the line during these drops, ALGO & XTZ for the last 7 days held the line so far....me thinks those are some resilient ALTS you wanna keep a bag of

Yeah you'd think people would be more into not shitting all over NFT's here of all places hahaha. I'm no super-fan nor do I even own any myself but I hold a decent bit of NFT related coins like ENJ, XTZ, etc.

Mentions:#ENJ#XTZ

Wasn't into crypto during the last bear run, but I've been in since early 2021. Still haven't sold a dime, my choice investments are XMR & XTZ, so, yea. AMA.

Mentions:#XMR#XTZ

I'm now trying to maintain a hethy balance of 40/40/20 of BTC, ETH and Alts (ALGO, LINK, ATOM, ADA, XTZ)

Tezos is such a weird one. It dumps HARD (people accuse the foundation of being the dumpers), and yet, when it goes up, it goes up strong! But yet, we get huge news like Ubisoft, and barely see 20%? But then we get random little jumps now and again. So strange. Ultimately, that's why I'm all in on XTZ. The tech is there and I think these random jumps for no reason are good signs there are still big amounts of interest. I dunno, I've been in the sun drinking today, so I'm just chatting shit.

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#Algorand Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Zarkorix which won 2nd place in the Algorand Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Disclaimer: ALGO is ~15% of my portfolio. > > ## Solving the Blockchain Trilemma > > Algorand is a solution to the "blockchain trilemma" - the ability of a network to be simultaneously scalable, secure and decentralised. ALGO's TPS is 1k/s, with a 4s finality, 0.001 ALGO transaction fee and it offers L1 smart contracts - however the network will be upgraded in Q3-Q4 2021 to 45k/s TPS and 2.5s finality, ranking it toward the top for speed and scalability [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/120720-Algorand%202021%20Performance.pdf) > > Decentralisation is achieved by the pure PoS (PPoS) consensus mechanism, which employs **algo**rithmic **rand**omness. Unlike delegated PoS (e.g. XTZ, ADA), PPoS does not employ pooled validators, thus minimizing the drive toward centralisation over time that dPOS suffers from. ALGO node running is permissionless - anybody with >1 ALGO can run a node and theoretically participate in consensus. Moreover, the hardware requirements are extremely low - an ALGO node can be run on a low energy, $50 Raspberry Pi. > > A key feature of PPoS is the use of a randomised, weighted lottery that selects validators - known as VRF. This prevents any malicious actor(s) from attacking the network since the identities of the currently selected validators (who must be corrupted in order to carry out an attack) are not known until the block is already finalised. At 1-4k validators, PPoS is paradoxically superior to ETH 2.0's 150,000 nodes - because ETH's beacon chains are long-lived. By contrast, ALGO's random selections vary on both a *round* and *subround* basis - that is, block proposers, voters, vote certifiers all vary, across all steps of certifying a block. Unlike ETH 2.0, which makes a single node the 'king-of-the-hill' for a given round (and thus employs slashing to discourage this node from misbehaving), if a node misbehaves in ALGO, it is simply voted against by all other certifiers - no slashing required. > > Governance (launching 1/10/21) will further decentralise the network by placing decisions concerning the network, tokenomics and which projects receive developer grants (see below) into the hands of ALGO holders. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is fast, scalable, secure while remaining decentralised. > > ## Carbon Negative > > Algorand's pure proof-of-stake (PPoS) consensus mechanism is extremely lightweight, consuming \~0.000008 kWh/tx (vs. 0.5479 kWh/tx in ADA - that's \~70,000x less energy, and 116250000x less energy than BTC) - with 4,000 active validators. Minting an NFT requires only 0.0000004 kg of CO2 [(Source).](https://www.algorand.com/resources/blog/sustainable-blockchain-calculating-the-carbon-footprint) This energy usage is 100%+ offset via carbon credits - locked up by an on-chain sustainability oracle, via smart contract, that analyses the energy used by each node. A partnership with ClimateTrade (amongst others) channels this funding into reforestation, peat-management and wind-energy projects at a global level [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/algorand-announcements/carbon_negative_announcement). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO is eco-friendly, and the world's first carbon *negative* blockchain network. > > ## Staking Rewards > > ALGO currently offers a seamless staking experience, with an APY of \~5.75% - you simply hold ALGO in a custodial wallet to participate (i.e. you do not need to select a validator and there is no lock-up period). In other words, your ALGO remains liquid at all times. This, however, will be gradually phased out and replaced by Governance, which will increase APY to 7%-30% (depending on the number of participants) but which will require you to vote in every proposal. > > ## Developer Friendly & Ecosystem > > Algorand is extremely accessible to developers [(Source 1)](https://developer.algorand.org/tutorials/) [(Source 2)](https://developer.algorand.org/docs/reference/sdks/): it supports development in Python, C++, GO, Java, Javascript and RUST - removing the need for developers to retrain or learn obscure or new languages (e.g. Haskell). ALGO's smart contract language, TEAL, is incredibly intuitive and can be accessed via Python (PyTEAL). As shown in Source 1, Algorand offers comprehensive and detailed documentation and tutorials (for free) to all prospective developers. > > More importantly, \~$200-250m is available to support developers and 50+ grants have already been issued [(Source)](https://algorand.foundation/developers/developer-incentive-awards-program). In total, \~600-650 companies are currently developing on ALGO and intend to deploy DApps/ALGO-based services [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/ecosystem/). > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO has the ability to instantly attract developers, and is poised for an explosion in its ecosystem. > > ## Academic Rigor > > Algorand was founded by the Turing-award-winning, MIT professor Silvio Micali - and is backed by an excellent team with solid peer-reviewed academic prowess and publication record [(Source 1)](https://www.algorand.com/technology/research-innovation/research-papers) [(Source 2)](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=silvio+micali&btnG=). Silvio Micali conceived of and pioneered zero-knowledge proofs (among many other protocols) - a key, integral part of ETH 2.0 and the future of cryptography/cryptocurrencies. Such a respectable and trustworthy team boosts ALGO's chances of mass adoption, especially in the financial/institutional sectors. > > **Main Conclusion:** ALGO's ability to form partnerships is bolstered by the prestige of its team. > > ## Real World Use > > A key feature of Algorand is that it is *forkless* \- it is mathematically impossible for ALGO to fork [(Source)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439751930091X). This is extremely important for real-world usage + transactions. Businesses accepting ALGO (unlike 99% of other cryptos) will not only experience rapid finality but can trust that the transaction is not on a forked, branch of the blockchain that can be lost. This also applies to NFTs. Thus far, ALGO has seen major adoption, recently including: > > * 70M South Americans (potentially 200M soon) using ALGO to issue + store COVID-19 passports [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/vitalpass-vaccine-tracing-latam/) > * BNext adopting ALGO for its $100b/year Spain<->Latin American remittance service [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/bnext-announces-next-generation-remittance-service/) > * MAPay adopting ALGO to power $800m/year in healthcare payments for Bermuda [(Source)](https://www.algorand.com/resources/ecosystem-announcements/mapay-to-implement-blockchain-based-solutions-on-algorand) > * SIAE, one of the largest and oldest digital rights managements companies in the world, launched 4.5m NFTs onto ALGO - representing the work of 10,000 art