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What Tools/Knowledge/Ideology does a person need to have to be a hacker?
I have a unorthodox strategy that may help some of you be able to HODL during this bear market cycle.
Reminder, you can start accepting crypto right now without asking permission to anyone in a non custodial way with bitrequest.io Supporting BTC, LTC, ETH, XNO, DOGE, BCH and Lightning!
How did Nano(XNO) team earn money?
Hey Redditors! I'm sending some VINU to every commenter, up to a total of 500B VINU (~$12,000)
Hey Redditors! I'm sending some VINU to every commenter, up to a total of 500B VINU (~$12,000)
Hey Redditors! I'm sending some VINU to every commenter, up to a total of 500B VINU (~$12,000)
Hey Redditors! I'm sending some VINU to every commenter, up to a total of 500B VINU (~$12,000)
Hey Redditors! I'm sending some VINU to every commenter, up to a total of 500B VINU (~$12,000)
XNO won't make you rich but it's what crypto should be!
Brazilian UFC star receives fight paycheck in BTC
What are the 10 cryptos with lowest transaction fees?
what are the 10 cryptos with lowest transaction fees?
Did XNO have a short squeeze yesterday?
I did a maintained list of faucets for Nano (XNO), Banano (BAN) and other
Binance Completes NANO to XNO Ticker Change, and Opens Deposits & Withdrawals for XNO
What you need to know about the crypto winter
Recently Nano smart contracts have reached an ATH
Recently Nano fees have reached an ATH
For those thinking about buying NANO in this dip
The story of 2miners adding XNO payouts, and 7x’ing their growth
Binance FORCING all margin positions on NANO/XNO to be closed on Jan 21
The Banano Ecosystem Explained. Compare your meme coin to this one !
Card Processing Fees - A Promising Crypto Use Case?
Nano (XNO) has a Very Bullish Sentiment Score, is Rising, and Outperforming the Crypto Market Tuesday: What's Next?
The perfect theoretical digital cash solution.
All projects with a ticker starting with "X" are probably dying
A Compendium of the Best Nano Articles
List of Some Coins that Haven't Recovered in 4 Years (roughly)
Investing in projects with great tech alone isn't enough
By all accounts it appears that nano (XNO) has an imminent partnership with Flowhub in the works.
Massive bull case for XNO: breakdown of fundamentals, new partnerships, and use cases
If the goal for most people is to make money, why do they invest in inflationary projects like SHIB vs deflationary projects like XNO? I tried to do a detailed breakdown.
Crypto currency is not about currency anymore
What I learned from Ubisoft’s Announcement
Nano Digest — XNO, Nano Hub, Nanovember, New Partners and Integrations, Events, Interviews and…
What are some current legit promising eco-friendly cryptocurrencies with fast transactions, that you like?
Realtime Bitrequest setup and 5 different blockchain Point of Sale payments within 2 minutes: BTC, LTC, DOGE, XNO, BCH
Realtime Bitrequest setup and 5 different blockchain Point of Sale payments within 2 minutes: BTC, LTC, DOGE, XNO, BCH
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This is the closest thing to Coinbase listing nano (XNO) that I imagine we'll see in a long while.
Nano (XNO). It should WAY bigger than it is. Feeless instant transactions.
Not true. Send 1 BTC across the network and you will not recieve 1 BTC. 1 XNO =1 XNO. 1 BAN = 1 BAN
Blessed holy XNO, thou without fees.
Yea. My XNO is down 80,89%. It was once my fourth biggest position.
XLM and XNO are dragging my portfolio down :)
My personal preference out of experience: LTC, DOGE, XNO, BCH, Lightning... You can try them all out and see which one works best for you: [bitrequest.io](https://www.bitrequest.io)
It’s bad. Their withdrawal fees are quite high for most things. Top up to your debit card and spend it/do ATM withdrawal are options. Sell it for another coin like XLM or LTC or XNO then transfer it…you’ll lose some during the exchange.
XNO I'm unaware of. Will investigate!
BTC, ALGO, XNO. Maybe XMR if I have extra funds, which I wont. :(
3 horse race imo, ETH, XMR, XNO. Demand will warp minds on one of these eventually.
Got in two of them (LRC & NANO) because of the hype created here. I cut my losses and got out of LRC for good but I still like XNO. It still has lots of room to improve on listening to people on how to prevent damages caused by possible spam attacks and reaction time of Nano Foundation can improve as well. NANO's biggest positive side for me is the fact it introuced me to BAN (Banano) community. Those people are just awesome.
There's a very easy to use XNO to XMR exchange available in most countries btw (including the UK). There's a bit of a spread, but no KYC. XNO is also quite easy to buy (Binance, Kraken, Crypto.com etc) Link for those interested: https://monero.nano.trade/ (I don't get anything from this, I just like both XMR and XNO)
What are your newest 'moonshot' purchases? By moonshot I mean coins that you don't have any cult-like belief will succeed but that you know mostly likely will fail. But there's an outside chance they might go 10, or even 20x or 50x so you put no more than 100 bucks in it and buy no more than 10 such moonshots. Like better than a lottery ticket but not much better! :D I'm thinking about buying: ICP, WAXP, XNO, FIL, GRT, SUSHI, KDA, ALGO, IMX, ENS. What about you?
Blockchain solves the double-spend problem. It fails to solve pretty much EVERY other problem - and is **MUCH** less efficient for **EVERY** other application. I hang about in the cryptocurrency subreddit because Nano XNO is instantly-secure feeless digital hard money. It's the "currency" bit of "crypto***currency***", that everyone else appears to have forgotten - and I'm waiting for this gang of degenerate gamblers to work that out.
BitPanda just listed Nano XNO.
To me, Vechain is NEO is ADA is Matic is Algo is LRC is ONE is DAG is XNO is STAKE is AVAX is EOS is NEM. Never gonna do much if not dead already.
Can we compare BAN to XNO please?
>what mechanism allows me to walk out after a few seconds, both parties feeling secure the transaction is going to be approved? ​ Nano XNO's "Open Representative Voting" mechanism (ORV). It's globally confirmed and settled, irreversibly, in under 1 second. Long before you walk out seconds later. BCH has a similar mechanism but it's not globally settled. It's a 0-confirmation mechanism equivalent to the barkeeper going to the door of the bar and shouting down the street to the other barkeepers: "Hey, anyone else seen this guy using counterfeit money?" It kinda works. Not all barkeepers will hear the shout, but like Lightning, it kinda works. For small amounts. Use Nano if you want full security for the full range of life's payments, from 0.01 cent to 1 million dollars.
Nano XNO is not a Security and you can't make it into one. Keep your Securities label for those coins which are unregistered investment assets under the 1933 Act.
Lol yeah and the fact that it got changed to nano, then just like recently the ticker got changed again, now it’s XNO. Point is, the devs are indecisive and it becomes confusing with all these names and tickets, so many exchanges haven’t even updated info yet, it’s frustrating
Does holding $XNO since 2017 count?
Yeah, I believe in XNO as a technical project. I also haven't really overextended myself, so even if it went to 0 I wouldn't really lose sleep over it.
Bought into CKB @ $ 0.005, HBAR @ $0.10 and XNO @ $1.20 this month and I'm looking for an entry into ALGO, I'm actually waiting for a work bonus to come in and I'll probably ape into it. Hoping for $0.30 as an entry but I'll ape in at 0.40 if the markets stay at these levels. I'll obviously keep some money aside in case we get a further dip in July/August. Love me a crypto casino.
#Nano Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Shippior which won 2nd place in the Nano Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Nano, which has recently adjusted its ticker to XNO is a DAG based, fee-less blockchain. > > Some fun facts that do not have to do anything with being a pro-argument: > > * Nano has been 100% distributed using faucets. Some follow-up facts about the faucet can be found in this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/h7fmge/the_nano_faucet_distribution_visualized_and/) > * Nano used to be called Raiblocks. [Rai stones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones) were very large boulders used by the Yap inhabitants in Micronesia as a currency. The stones could not be physically moved but they changed ownership in exchange for goods. By mutual agreement the ownership of a stone was decided. > * The distribution of nano was supposedly 400 million. However after distributing 133 million the faucet failed and this amount was now the market cap. The [logo of nano](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Nano_logo.png) reminds of this market cap as it consists of 1 dot, 3 dots, 3 dots. > > The big advantage of Nano is that it is fee-less. Every transaction on the blockchain is transferred for 0 XNO. Therefore the crypto is ideal for micro-payments, whereas for many blockchain these kind of transactions are very costly due to the transaction fee that is required for sending these amounts is greater than the micro payment. Therefore it is the ideal candidate for use for in-game purchases, paying for ad removal online or simply paying back that round of beers your friend got at the bar. > > Inherent at having zero fees is the issue that the people that secure the network do not get a financial incentive as there are no mining or staking rewards for validators. The idea for Nano is that running a node in the long term will save a validator costs instead of earning rewards. As the transactions are free the only cost for receiving transactions is running a validator node. With enough scale the saved costs of not having to pay VISA will outnumber the costs of running a node. > > With V23.0 having been released lately the Nano Development Foundation (which did receive any portion at the fair launch of XNO, contrary to many projects where the team receives up to 50% of all coins) has been focusing on both V24.0 which will provide a permanent solution for the spam attacks that the network endured early 2021 but also start a marketing campaign for the adoption of Nano. The team said that they will only start to market the product once they think it is (close to) finished. > > This marketing campaign has already provided several interesting results. First of all it has been adopted by 2miners. 2miners allows their participants to pay-out their mining rewards from mining ETH in nano, thereby by-passing the high ETH gas fees. > > Nex to that they have anounced a partnership with [FlowHub](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1460650892194160650). FlowHub is said to look into using Nano within their supply chains to save on expenditures. Also Kappture, which provides point of sale devices, has proofed to be interested in [nano](https://twitter.com/Kappture1/status/1473969560294416386). The in-game micropayments that I have mentioned before in this post are also currently investigated by [Poki](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1409509248971726860) a platform used by 30 million users. > > So all in all it seems like nano is finally being used for what it was meant to be and many more people are seeing it's strenghts. Now all nano needs is a Coinbase listing... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yi9/coin_inquiries_round_nano_proarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.
Taking in the account XNO dont have inflation and supply gets smaller and smaller...
There literally isn't a faster, cheaper easier way than to accept Nano XNO. Try the [Natrium.io](https://Natrium.io) wallet.
>"What exactly are you doing for doge? since you care so much about it" I'm telling as many people as I can: * That Billy spent 2 hours designing it as a memecoin - a deliberate parody of currency * That it has 4% inflation * That its fees burst over $1 on the only two periods that it got the very slightest usage over 0.4tps * That it takes 30 minutes to safely secure with multiple confirmations * That any coin with a price reliant on the trolling support of a single billionaire can find that support removed at any time So in summary, I'm telling people that it's useless as currency. I'm telling them that Nano XNO is better currency and hard money, with no inflation, no fees, no delays, and no mining pollution. An interesting test will now occur: Of whether you'll be able to refute any of those points without repeating the words "idiot" and "loser". Disinterested readers might like to look out for the quality of arguments in favour of Doge (if any).
2020-2021 was two of the craziest years for crypto markets and it couldn’t even reach new ATH, XNO/ETH pair is down only since 2018 & there’s nothing meaningful being built on NANO. Just buy BTC or ETH instead
would XNO - XMR swap be possible? feeless
*Cries in Nano* (XNO Est. October 2015).
You're all going to be dismissive when I say the same will now happen for Nano XNO You ignore that how it's still young, and has been recognised yet You'll ignore the lowest inflation, fee, delay, hassle money None of you think it will go x2000 in 5 years You'll all be smarmy and derisive You'll all miss out That's OK Ӿ
XNO was not that bad in the past, but they becoming shit now days.
The XNO network is getting bitch slapped by a fifteen year old kid. Fast, Feeless and Full of hormones! At what point do you have to admit a project is dead? They are all over there thinking its a good thing because it will make the network stronger in the long run. Shitcoin
>It updated its ticker to XNO to be compliant with forex markets. Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks
It's #227 on coin gecko and XNO on binance
Nano is alive and well! It updated its ticker to XNO to be compliant with forex markets.
How does it work with other stable coins? Say if XNO/USDT drops because of USDT shenanigans, why would XNO/BUSD drop?
A lot of what you've brought up is handled by Nano/XNO: * Low energy consumption, * sub second settlement times, * no fees, * useful primarily as a currency.
I totally agree, store of wealth, but no to make payments. 25 minutes to verify on the blockchain, plus there are faster and feeless coins out there for this task. Litecoin, XNO, XLM. The list goes on; all better than Btc for payments network
That's simply a lie. There are 19m Bitcoin issued. 2m are yet to be printed. Even more could hypothetically be created if another fastmine bug were to occur, or if nodes agreed to it. In contrast, there are only 133.2m Nano XNO, there will only EVER be 133.2m, and they've already been distributed. It's cryptographically, mathematically, impossible to create any more Nano XNO. All Nano that can ever be created from the 128 bit Genesis block have already been created. Saylor is simply, deliberately, maliciously, misleadingly lying. And I'm sick to death of him doing it. The post will, of course, get upvoted anyway because its in Bitcoiners' interests to support the lie.
Don't wanna be a shill, but most coins that have little or no transaction fees (eg, XNO) are really useful IMO
The developers actively communicating how they tackle this issue and making their next steps clear is actually a reason why im having a lot of trust in XNO.
All cc has vulnerability, not just XNO. XMR came very close to a 51% when a targeted pool happened through mineXMR a few months ago. Many shitcoins were subjected to double-spend attacks in the unregulated space. By your logic, all cc isn't fit for it's purpose because there will always be vulnerabilities.
I’m half crypto, half cash. I’m balanced for red or green days. For crypto I have BTC, ETH, LTC, XNO, MOON, JMPT, and then the other half is in Tether.
XNO since forever. As someone said, nano works how people who don't know crypto think BTC works. I've been in crypto since 2012, and my favorite has gone BTC then XNO and that's the full journey.
BAND, XTZ, XNO, Moons
#Nano Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Shippior which won 2nd place in the Nano Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Nano, which has recently adjusted its ticker to XNO is a DAG based, fee-less blockchain. > > Some fun facts that do not have to do anything with being a pro-argument: > > * Nano has been 100% distributed using faucets. Some follow-up facts about the faucet can be found in this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/h7fmge/the_nano_faucet_distribution_visualized_and/) > * Nano used to be called Raiblocks. [Rai stones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones) were very large boulders used by the Yap inhabitants in Micronesia as a currency. The stones could not be physically moved but they changed ownership in exchange for goods. By mutual agreement the ownership of a stone was decided. > * The distribution of nano was supposedly 400 million. However after distributing 133 million the faucet failed and this amount was now the market cap. The [logo of nano](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Nano_logo.png) reminds of this market cap as it consists of 1 dot, 3 dots, 3 dots. > > The big advantage of Nano is that it is fee-less. Every transaction on the blockchain is transferred for 0 XNO. Therefore the crypto is ideal for micro-payments, whereas for many blockchain these kind of transactions are very costly due to the transaction fee that is required for sending these amounts is greater than the micro payment. Therefore it is the ideal candidate for use for in-game purchases, paying for ad removal online or simply paying back that round of beers your friend got at the bar. > > Inherent at having zero fees is the issue that the people that secure the network do not get a financial incentive as there are no mining or staking rewards for validators. The idea for Nano is that running a node in the long term will save a validator costs instead of earning rewards. As the transactions are free the only cost for receiving transactions is running a validator node. With enough scale the saved costs of not having to pay VISA will outnumber the costs of running a node. > > With V23.0 having been released lately the Nano Development Foundation (which did receive any portion at the fair launch of XNO, contrary to many projects where the team receives up to 50% of all coins) has been focusing on both V24.0 which will provide a permanent solution for the spam attacks that the network endured early 2021 but also start a marketing campaign for the adoption of Nano. The team said that they will only start to market the product once they think it is (close to) finished. > > This marketing campaign has already provided several interesting results. First of all it has been adopted by 2miners. 2miners allows their participants to pay-out their mining rewards from mining ETH in nano, thereby by-passing the high ETH gas fees. > > Nex to that they have anounced a partnership with [FlowHub](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1460650892194160650). FlowHub is said to look into using Nano within their supply chains to save on expenditures. Also Kappture, which provides point of sale devices, has proofed to be interested in [nano](https://twitter.com/Kappture1/status/1473969560294416386). The in-game micropayments that I have mentioned before in this post are also currently investigated by [Poki](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1409509248971726860) a platform used by 30 million users. > > So all in all it seems like nano is finally being used for what it was meant to be and many more people are seeing it's strenghts. Now all nano needs is a Coinbase listing... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yi9/coin_inquiries_round_nano_proarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.
I did some work for a little XNO but other than that I’ve never actually used crypto to make a purchase. What has your experience been?
I've been in crypto for over 10 years. And I am telling you there is no one thing, or one wallet that fits everything. The multi crypto wallets usually have issues. For best security you need to find out what each cryptocurrency's best wallets are that are designed for them and use them. For example, for Nano (XNO) you should use Natrium mobile wallet, or Nault.cc for desktop. These are optimized and built specificaly for best performance for that specific cryptocurrency. You won't have to worry about future wallet failure or whayever in say 10 years. With multi-wallets you run the risk of lost functionality in a year or two.
BAN for that sweet sweet potassium along with all the features of XNO
This is exactly what Nano (XNO) is. It’s designed to be as easy to use as an actual dollar. There’s no transaction fee and the transaction is instant, so you can transfer $.002 or $20,000,000 and it takes place in less than a fraction of a second and you receive the entire amount. Nano’s been around for 7 years and is fully distributed. It also doesn’t use mining so the network requires almost no energy, therefore it probably wont fall under whatever energy regulations are coming for Bitcoin. For the life of me, I can’t understand why it hasn’t replaced Bitcoin which is like a beta version of a cryptocurrency, except for the fact the BTC had massive first mover advantage. Either way, Nano is incredibly cool. Check it out!
Utility coins aren't just a good investment because the price action is slow to follow but you bet you ass that they will stay with us until the end unlike some shitcoins. XLM, XNO, and LTC will not likely die and if picked up by big companies in the future then it will be stellar for everyone.
/u/x_lincoln_x came pretty close already. The fractionally more mathematical version is. Price ~= Demand -------------- Supply If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. (In other news, it's mathematically impossible to create **any** new Supply of Nano XNO. Supply is fixed.)
$XNO should be the answer for you…
This info is all available by research instead of asking questions on reddit :) There are no miners needed for XNO.
Yeah, they changed the ticker symbol to XNO a few months ago.
is XNO ==NANO? I'm confused because I thought nano was just called NANO
XMR for pricacy, XNO for speed and fees
Currently hold ADA, ERG, ALGO and XNO (will probably just hold this) mainly. During the bear market i will probably focus on ALGO unless something else catches my eye.
Nano (XNO) is a zero fee coin with instant transactions. Big fan and hope to see it survive this cycle
XNO of course. What BTC wanted to be.
Glad I diversified between BTC, ETH, and PAXG when picking coins to hold during the bear. Also glad I sold my CRO a few days ago. XNO makes me want to cry but I’ll keep stacking the mining rewards.
Fair enough, I didn't see the "more" in your at first, my bad. It's indeed a combination of things, although tbf I think BAN has better chances as a memecoin than XNO has as a currency.
Where did I say that this was the sole reason for it? Also, the spam attack isn’t the main reason either, Nano is not PERFECT and you’re talking to someone who’s fav coins are XNO and BAN
Nano needs its XNO ticker updated on certain websites/exchanges to be taken more seriously
right now basically all investments, especially BOUNCE (still believing in it, not gonna sell), besides XNO with which I’m like 20% in plus with it
I've been mining ETH and paid out in XNO via 2miners and had no idea what I was going to do with all this XNO. Until last night, all that XNO is now ATOM. 😁
Op what makes you buy/sell when you do? For example on the XNO pic # 1, what made you buy above $1.50 and sell over $2? Genuine question and wish you nothing but the very best of luck hope you smash it!!
Op what makes you buy/sell when you do? For example on the XNO pic # 1, what made you buy above $1.50 and sell over $2? Genuine question and wish you nothing but the very best of luck hope you smash it!!
Nano (XNO) just did a 30% jump within half an hour, even when everything else is down and red. Somebody must have bought shit loads for the price to have jumped by a freaking 30% in just 30mins. Which of you whales went all in on Nano? 🥲 The highest price is at binance, so I am assuming thats where someone bought a lot of it…?
Def BTC. I’m hoping some lower value coins make a comeback like LTC or XNO
The article quotes his tweet which still misrepresents what he's saying. Bitcoin should have inflation, and Bitcoin is more likely to keep it's 21M cap and die than change it do not equate to the statement it will inevitably crash without inflation. As for miners supporting it after new BTC mints end I suppose you aren't interested in discussing feeless chains like XNO or IOTA? I'm also unsure how you see increasing blocksize continuously as a permanent fix when increasing hardware requirements centralizes mining efforts, and how bigger blocks is paying out to fewer miners is a mark of longevity but have at it. It's not covered in the Whitepaper you sent me as that incentive model matches BTC's and praises it, while also advocating for a denigrated Merkle tree as a blockchain history. I don't really like or use BTC but these aren't great arguments against it.
#Nano Pro-Arguments Below is an argument written by Shippior which won 2nd place in the Nano Pro-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Nano, which has recently adjusted its ticker to XNO is a DAG based, fee-less blockchain. > > Some fun facts that do not have to do anything with being a pro-argument: > > * Nano has been 100% distributed using faucets. Some follow-up facts about the faucet can be found in this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/h7fmge/the_nano_faucet_distribution_visualized_and/) > * Nano used to be called Raiblocks. [Rai stones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones) were very large boulders used by the Yap inhabitants in Micronesia as a currency. The stones could not be physically moved but they changed ownership in exchange for goods. By mutual agreement the ownership of a stone was decided. > * The distribution of nano was supposedly 400 million. However after distributing 133 million the faucet failed and this amount was now the market cap. The [logo of nano](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Nano_logo.png) reminds of this market cap as it consists of 1 dot, 3 dots, 3 dots. > > The big advantage of Nano is that it is fee-less. Every transaction on the blockchain is transferred for 0 XNO. Therefore the crypto is ideal for micro-payments, whereas for many blockchain these kind of transactions are very costly due to the transaction fee that is required for sending these amounts is greater than the micro payment. Therefore it is the ideal candidate for use for in-game purchases, paying for ad removal online or simply paying back that round of beers your friend got at the bar. > > Inherent at having zero fees is the issue that the people that secure the network do not get a financial incentive as there are no mining or staking rewards for validators. The idea for Nano is that running a node in the long term will save a validator costs instead of earning rewards. As the transactions are free the only cost for receiving transactions is running a validator node. With enough scale the saved costs of not having to pay VISA will outnumber the costs of running a node. > > With V23.0 having been released lately the Nano Development Foundation (which did receive any portion at the fair launch of XNO, contrary to many projects where the team receives up to 50% of all coins) has been focusing on both V24.0 which will provide a permanent solution for the spam attacks that the network endured early 2021 but also start a marketing campaign for the adoption of Nano. The team said that they will only start to market the product once they think it is (close to) finished. > > This marketing campaign has already provided several interesting results. First of all it has been adopted by 2miners. 2miners allows their participants to pay-out their mining rewards from mining ETH in nano, thereby by-passing the high ETH gas fees. > > Nex to that they have anounced a partnership with [FlowHub](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1460650892194160650). FlowHub is said to look into using Nano within their supply chains to save on expenditures. Also Kappture, which provides point of sale devices, has proofed to be interested in [nano](https://twitter.com/Kappture1/status/1473969560294416386). The in-game micropayments that I have mentioned before in this post are also currently investigated by [Poki](https://twitter.com/nano/status/1409509248971726860) a platform used by 30 million users. > > So all in all it seems like nano is finally being used for what it was meant to be and many more people are seeing it's strenghts. Now all nano needs is a Coinbase listing... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yi9/coin_inquiries_round_nano_proarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Nano) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds.
> but technical advances in hardware and networking automatically scale #Nano $XNO. Yeah, it's what I said. NANO did not solve scaling. Like every other shitcoin, it just pretends it will scale one day when the hardware is faster. That's no achievement from NANO. Meanwhile it has so little usage that the shills can continue to lie other clueless shitcoiners in the face like it actually solves anything. > LightningNetwork IOUs solve nothing, because no one wants to use it Yeah, only whole countries, various mainstream payment apps and soon it gets integrated into payment terminals all over the US. But no one is using it. LOL > it throws away Bitcoin's security with its own weaker security model No it doesn't. The fact that you have to be online is a trade-off, but it's all perfectly secure > and because only 7 people can settle their #Lightning #IOUs per second - i.e. once per lifetime for 7.8b people. It's not an IOU, channel states are valid signed transactions. That is as good as holding the keys to a UTXO. And there is literally no reason to ever close a channel other than if the other node becomes unresponsive for a lengthy amount of time. I think we can end this discussion here. Clearly you don't have anything of value to contribute anymore. Feel free to continue to delude yourself by thinking NANO actually solves anything, the market seems to not agree with you anyway.
I'm not sure why I have to say this again, but technical advances in hardware and networking automatically scale #Nano $XNO. #LightningNetwork IOUs solve nothing, because no one wants to use it, it throws away Bitcoin's security with its own weaker security model, and because only 7 people can settle their #Lightning #IOUs per second - i.e. once per lifetime for 7.8b people.
Yep, over that timescale, people have done well with Bitcoin. The question still remains, (and none of us can answer it) of whether that process continues. As a fan of Nano, I'd say we are at that earlier stage with Nano XNO right now, with big gains still to come. Those who support Bitcoin would disagree and say "It's winner takes all - and Bitcoin will still win." We shall see.
You'll have seen before that I'm a supporter of Nano XNO - *the least inflationary digital money of all 20,000 cryptocurrencies*. **The hardest money of all**. As a minor detail Nano also happens to be *the fastest-securing digital money of all 20,000 cryptocurrencies*. Oh yeah: And Nano is also *the lowest fee digital money of all 20,000 cryptocurrencies*. And the most *hyperefficient*. And the *easiest to use*. And it *scales*. So yeah, you could say that might have been a good start - instead of "Magic Internet Money" - WTF?
> 30 minutes treacle slow? > What does that even mean? "Treacle slow" means: * DOGE is too slow for over-the-counter purchases And * DOGE has a poor UX for online purchases, which require a second check for successful payment confirmation 30 minutes later "Treacle slow" means it's such a joke payments currency that a trolling billionaire sells ***dog whistles*** for DOGE. "Treacle slow" means DOGE's 30 minute secure confirmation is... checks notes... 29 minutes 59 seconds 500ms slower than Nano XNO's.
Ah - I see your problem - you are comparing increase in money supply against fiat. DOGE isn't competing against fiat alone - it's competing against both fiat ***AND*** crypto. DOGE's 4% inflation is... checks notes... 4% higher than Nano XNO's inflation.
I suggest nano (XNO). Fast and feeless, always.
>NANO gets spam attacked Like I said, if you think you can spam Nano, then go ahead and do it. Let us know how you got on. Or at the very least, walk us through how you'd do it on paper. Otherwise stop your FUD. You can't spam Nano XNO. ​ >no incentives for people securing the network You're simply lying at this point. This thread has already listed incentives for people to secure the network. Anyone receiving a large Nano payment is incentivised to run a node - just as they would be for Bitcoin or any other currency. Trust, but verify. ​ > you to shill OK - I've had enough now - you're now reported for insult.
>honestly didn't read all that because i didn't post this morning to get into a debate with a True Believer Do you think that insults add value to a debate? Don't you know that other readers on the thread detect that as an attempt to divert and avoid discussing the points made? ​ > but hard money has intrinsic value > >BTC and other PoW coins arguably have intrinsic value because they require work to be minted. Bitcoin doesn't have intrinsic value. You've fallen into the Marxist Labour Theory of Value trap. There's no value in a hole you dig in your garden in the wrong place - no matter how much work you put into it - if no one else is willing to pay for your labour. There's no intrinsic value in any digital asset - only a price based on Supply versus Demand. >Nano and similar coins **are created** from nothing \[my bold\] That's just the point. Nano is not created. You can't create any. Your "Proof of Work" to create another Nano XNO would be infinite, because you can't create one at all. ​ >It's not really relevant whether the number is capped, at all. It's very very relevant. Because as I'd said, the only thing affecting Price is **Supply versus Demand**. Those are the **only** things. Nothing else. **Nothing at all. Nothing.** And Nano has a totally fixed Supply. So it's pretty much all down to Demand now. And that rises as more people discover Nano XNO. Few have so far. But the number is rising.