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tcfanatic

My MOON bag is worth about 3 million LUNA 🥳

Notoriously_So

**Put it all on LUNA.**

ViperX7777

Well this is what I want to hear now I am going to invest in LUNA as much as possible, thanks for boosting my confidence right now, I needed that very much my brother! XD

rsicher1

"This is how LUNA gets to $0.00000000000000080000"

Odysseus_Lannister

Exactly this. All of these people weren’t forced into buying LUNA/UST. Yes, he has questionable business practices but it’s not like there haven’t been any red flags in the project.

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Odlavso

Do Kwon came to my house after LUNA collapse and forced me to buy $20, he wouldn't leave until I bought some. Did the same thing to my entire street

Onelinersandblues

I mean if you take a loan and put in LUNA… you kinda have it coming right?

ts_wrathchild

Is LUNA/UST a failed experiment, or a wacky scheme devised by diabolical crypto bros to fleece its participants and ruin lives? At the end of the day, any person, persons or law enforcement agencies are going to have to make damn sure it’s the former if they want any results. I don’t think we’re there yet.

littlemarc2010

Thats stupid, buying LUNA without UST being repegged is just asking for losses.

___v0id___

Buy RED? Buy GREEN? And ignores LUNA “savings account” meme coin

krek777

We gotta respect the post and we should invest in the name of gamble, nothing else. I hope people will not take the investing in LUNA shit seriously now, it's not good.

outrider567

You're kidding right? Current LUNA total: 6, 534, 869, 472, 866

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nick83487

I'm guessing there isn't much of a point selling now for those who held LUNA before the crash and are still holding.

babar001

Instructions unclear. I sold my wife's car to buy LUNA. I believe 🤞🤞

fridrih81

So that means we can still invest in LUNA? Thanks for that.

bitcoinie

This is what we all want to understand that we have to avoid investing in LUNA, we can burn the money but we won't invest in that fucking dead coin now, thanks mate lol.

trrrring

So you're saying there's still hope for LUNA hodlers

yeetboi_dangerous

People who honestly think LUNA is going to recover, why?

1q2w3e4rbheith

There’s a dude in the LUNA mega thread who invested $250 the other day and is now up $15k

cesslissubestgib

Its interesting how LUNA whales now are holding pennies, and the retails are the new whales .

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LUNA, SHIB and DOGE ​ ^(I am trolling guys.)

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

Longed LUNA. It's about to pump again.

outrider567

But LUNA has grown by another Billion coins since OP's numbers in his post, his number was from 2 days ago---But today I think 'only' 150 million been dumped

Faze-Cumshot

UST was backed by air, it would be "stable" as long as their was demand for LUNA. Once that went it collapsed. Even $80k BTC wasn't enough to save the peg. I don't think there would be sudden collapse like this in top coins. USDT is shady but they did recently paid liquidate $7B.

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___v0id___

Lots of people lost a lot of money on LUNA. Do you think the market will be A) react B) not react Meme’s are meme’s

Same-Row-4665

I feel sorry for anyone who got losses in LUNA, few close crypto friends lost money on it aswell... But I just want to say that I hope Do Kwon faces law for what he did.

randysailer

I think he made alot shorting BTC and LUNA because he was the one that triggered the de-pegging by pulling liquidity. This way the money he made is not tied to the project's funds they where sacrificial.

yzhh1987

I wanna know that too. Sure every coin is suffering but LUNA right now had a los of 99.96%. Thats insane .

___v0id___

There is only 1 LUNA well maybe a few billion But There is only 1 LUNA

___v0id___

C’mon LUNA, LFG back to $1+

deathbyfish13

Best I can do is 10k LUNA

FlowersforAlgorand

Alright, enlighten me. I've been gone all day, kids soccer games, and I check the charts to see.... green? Random pumping or world news? And why is LUNA going off?

narquelion09

We gotta stop giving any attention to LUNA now man.

outrider567

'Burn' is not in there because it doesn't exist as far as LUNA goes

Faze-Cumshot

I'll buy her for 10000 LUNA

outrider567

He won't burn any LUNA, why would he? and hundreds of millions of more LUNA is being added to the circulation each day as it is

pyroxl

Gamble as in poker: yes Gamble as in buying LUNA: no

m3rcts

Nah he is saying that we should not seek for any chance with LUNA, we have to understand that it's nothing but a scam now and we have to keep away our money from scams.

outrider567

Its easy--There are now 18,000 TIMES more LUNA coins in the circulation than in April, and still growing(dumping) each day

XChristoff

My ball said that LUNA will make millionaires 27th May, but that is BS so I threw it

outrider567

Yes--LUNA supply still growing today, yesterday was the worst day yet for the dumping of LUNA coins

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outrider567

LUNA's circulation supply is still growing by leaps and bounds, looks like about 4 Billion coins added in the last week or so

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Flaky_Protection7634

People still buying LUNA lol? I wouldn’t even gamble $10 since it’s literally a proven scam.

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#Terra Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by idevcg which won 1st place in the Terra Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > Terra's entire value proposition is being propped up by its stablecoin UST, and in particular, the Anchor protocol, which has been giving out a pretty stable return of 19.5-20.5% APR so far. > > Because of how high its promise of returns is (and not on a shitcoin whose value fluctuates wildly, the value is pegged to USD for Anchor/UST), it managed to attract a huge amount of capital into the ecosystem. > > But how would Terra fare when Anchor can no longer offer such a high rate of return, or worse, if the entire system collapses? > > After all, UST is just an algorithmic stablecoin; there's nothing special about it that cannot be replicated by other platforms and smart contracts. If there was no risk, why don't all the other L1s also create a similar system to Anchor UST and offer 20% APR? > > In reality, Anchor UST currently works almost like a sort of a ponzi. > > [to quote](https://twitter.com/0xhamz/status/1506372692005593090?s=21): > > When UST per LUNA is less than LUNA mkt price -- the system is insolvent > > UST liabilities equate to 45% of the current circulating LUNA market cap > > With rapid UST adoption --- this rising floor is a vector of vulnerability. > > UST are deposits that are redeemable for LUNA tokens > > The LUNA ecosystem pays depositors to come into the ecosystem > > LUNA is paying depositors the 19.5% APY on Anchor > > But depositors are not creating organic value for LUNA > > LUNA benefits from UST adoption via swap and other usage fees > > LUNA has a 6.7% stake rate > > Borrow at 19.5% and return 6.7% won't last forever > > > /quote > > edit: Additionally, Terra is planning to buy over 10 billion dollars of bitcoin; where will those funds come from? Will they be forced to sell Terra Luna to fund this purchase? If so, what effect will that sell pressure have on the price of Luna? ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/ru2mzj/top_10_terra_conarguments_january_2022/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive##wiki_terra.28luna.29) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/umsqe8/monthly_optimists_discussion_may_2022/).

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your_grammar_is_shit

Those Luna niños in the AMA were hilarious. They are asking a guy who lost over a billion on the same scam to pay for their mistake. Yeah. Dream on shitcoiners. How you didn't see this coming when Do Kunt started buying bitcoin to 'back' (lol) LUNA is beyond me. The only thing he was backing was a truck to dump all your money on his doorstep.

XGamingMan

I don't remember that. Lemme drop a few hundred bucks on LUNA. It will get back to 1$.

hpj0141

The snapshot discussed in the proposal is supposed to take place 5/27. Seems like there will be an airdrop for users on CEX’s if that’s where you’re holding it. If you’re playing the LUNA game, it’ll probably play out slowly in my opinion so be ready for that. I put like $100 in bc if I lose it, oh well. R/R seemed p good.

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Illysgr89

Today I converted my whole portfolio to $LUNA am I idiot or a smart guy?

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glowingmushrooms

Temporary 20% isn't that unusual and was never believed by anyone with a right mind to be sustainable. Defi protocols offer increased rewards all the time to steal liquidity from other protocols or to entice new users hoping the capital will stick after the rewards go back to normal/sustainable levels. That being said it wasn't 20% return that crashed Luna, the fundamental relationship between UST-LUNA did. Same thing could have happened with 2% returns. I'm kinda surprised nobody is talking about FRAX, as it has the same mechanic. It's partially backed so it can't go to like LUNA did but still has a depeg risk.

Aquabloke

It is a combination of lots of people still holding LUNA and not being bothered to sell it for a 99.9% loss. The market therefore assumes these stocks are still worth something (they are not being sold) and the bubble isn't completely empty yet.

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IANvaderZIM

I stand by my previous comment; Good luck to you sir. You have your strategy, I have mine. We won’t reach agreement, which is fine. I couldn’t imagine putting everything onto a single dex/liquidity pool, especially after the recent LUNA debacle; but your funds are yours, and yours alone. I hope for your sake it doesn’t all go to zero. I’m happy hodling my “Stone Age dinosaur,” and I’m done with this discussion. Last word is yours if you want it.

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w00tangel

Seems like a few of the comment thread in the deleted AMA were delated as well, related to the LUNA/UST fiasco and Binance.

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#Ethereum Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Ethereum Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Ethereum Con Argument > > - *Disclosure: I currently hold a position in ETH, ~53% of my current portfolio value* > > - ETH has been the subject of a lot of criticism over the years and the same points still seem to get recycled ([premine/founders](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/owypvc/my_personal_investigation_into_ethereum_uncovers/), [DAO rollback](https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/the-dao-hack-makerdao), [scalability/centralization](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qw2e32/eth_is_bad_and_i_am_tired_of_pretending_its_not/hl0bqo9/), [inflation/supply](https://www.theheldreport.com/p/bitcoin-vs-ethereum)). There are a ton of rebuttals online for the most common Con arguments - [see here](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/najp2c/addressing_common_criticisms_about_ethereum/) and [here](https://medium.com/@adamscochran/the-10k-audit-42c100dd32bb) for a start. > > - That being said, there are definitely some legitimate concerns about ETH to consider: > > ##Gotta pay the troll toll > > - As a protocol, Ethereum is an '[empire](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution)', a self-contained ecosystem with [composability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composability). > > - But the downside of a 'one chain to rule them all' approach is that it locks users into using the system and paying gas fees in ETH. Interoperability may be crypto's future - [EVM](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/glossary/ethereum-virtual-machine-evm) is certainly an industry standard, but as Do Kwon of LUNA said recently: "[Maybe it's a bad idea to stick all the applications into one global computer. Maybe it just makes sense to have a multi-chain future.](https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto/status/1439969124550119431)" > > - We all know [gas fees](https://www.gasprice.io/) on ETH are a pain in the ass. > - A lot of complaints about gas are misguided or uninformed, not understanding the [blockchain trilemma](https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/blockchain-trilemma-decentralization-scalability-definition), mistakenly believing EIP1559 was supposed to lower gas fees (vs. [making them more predictable](https://pintail.xyz/posts/gas-market-analysis/)), or suggesting that ['gas fees are high, no one will use Ethereum'](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qikr7r/a_10k_eth_is_not_unrealistic_it_is_inevitable/hik9pet/?context=10000). > > - High gas fees are in fact an indication of usage, of [people competing to use the chain](https://cryptofees.info/) - but this makes ETH a victim of its own success. > > - Paying [$20-30 for a token transfer or $60-100 for a Uniswap trade](https://etherscan.io/gastracker) is just not feasible for users with less capital - [they get priced out of using the chain](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qdi9i8/ive_tried_to_use_ethereum_1015_times_over_the/). > > - A really interesting article dives deeper on this and quantifies how "[people are entirely “locked out” of their funds since it’d cost more in transaction fees to move the funds than the funds are actually worth.](https://medium.com/geekculture/value-fragmentation-8c8336f97cfd)" At the time of writing the total 'lost value' of ERC20s was $600M, which doesn't include ETH itself or NFTs. > > - Which brings us to competition and scalability: > > ##I drink your milkshake > > - Having prioritized decentralization and security at the expense of scalability, Ethereum is now [focused on rollups to meet demand](https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/12/06/endgame.html). > > - However, some users may not care about decentralization - they want to participate in DeFi, NFTs, etc. without paying an arm and a leg and will use BSC, SOL or [sidechains that don't inherit ETH's security](https://finematics.com/polygon-commit-chain-explained/). > - [Funds have migrated](https://ethhole.link/) over the past year from ETH [via bridges to L2s and other L1s](https://medium.com/etherscan-blog/ethereum-bridges-four-months-on-10ee36f889ae). > > - [TVL on L2s has boomed](https://l2beat.com/) as users flock to platforms with [cheaper transactions](https://l2fees.info/). Polygon for instance recently [flipped Ethereum in daily active addresses](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/10/04/polygon-flips-ethereum-on-active-user-addresses/). > > - Ryan Selkis of Messari explained these concerns, suggesting that ETH could become cannibalized by competitors and L2s: > > >["Decentralization (specifically political decentralization) and architectural soundness have become secondary properties at best and willfully ignored at worst in the mercenary dominant market of 2021. Not every new chain has tossed decentralization aside, but many have. Even if Ethereum manages to hold off its largest non-EVM rivals, it will leak value to the rollup chains it leans on for scalability. ETH sits at ~60% market cap dominance among Layer 1s. That will either fall below 50% in 2022, or its Layer 2 rollup tokens will eat into its growth. Maybe both.] (https://messari.io/pdf/messari-report-crypto-theses-for-2022.pdf)" > > ##Points of failure? > > - While I agree with many of the points in [this article debunking the "ETH is centralized" mantra](https://medium.com/swlh/ethereum-isnt-decentralized-and-other-myths-ef2d132ee1fe), I think Ethereum still has some progress to make on the [**sociopolitical** and **architectural** aspects of decentralization](https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/the-meaning-of-decentralization-a0c92b76a274#.355j5eg0v): > > - **Sociopolitics**: > > - Vitalik is a great steward of the project and has been [trying to remove himself as a single point of failure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1b_S6Qp2Q&t=656s). Anyone remember the [Vitalik death hoax?](https://fortune.com/2017/06/26/vitalik-death/) > > - But as a 'high priest', Vitalik's [vision](https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/12/06/endgame.html), [proposals](https://news.coincu.com/38718-vitalik-buterin-makes-proposal-eip-4488-to-lower-gas-fees-for-ethereum-layer-2-in-the-short-term/) and opinions have preeminent influence and there's no doubt [he remains the 'face' of Ethereum](https://newsprees.com/vitalik-buterin-speaks-to-argentina-decentralization-goes-far-beyond-money/). The community looks to him for key deliverables like [roadmap updates](https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin/status/1466411377107558402). > > * While [Ethereum development functions as a true open source project](https://media.consensys.net/ethereum-2-0s-latest-strides-forward-13f63652e57d?gi=30830fb85bbd), I think there are a lot of benefits to having a pseudonymous, absent 'leader' like with Bitcoin and Monero. > > - There are also some concerns in my mind about the role of Joe Lubin and ConsenSys in [privatizing what should arguably be public goods](https://saitoofficial.medium.com/the-infura-problem-fe68866484ec). ConsenSys has been a huge player in [driving enterprise adoption](https://consensys.net/blog/news/consensys-acquires-jpm-quorum/) - but they also own [key Ethereum infrastructure like Infura and MetaMask](https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/02/consensys-shareholders-readying-legal-action-over-share-valuation/), which takes us to... > > - **Architecture**: > > - Incidents like [Infura going down](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/ethereums-infura-iating-outage-revives-decentralization-concerns) or the [Geth bug causing a chain split](https://decrypt.co/79597/ethereum-blockchain-splits-software-bug-network) highlight the Ethereum network's reliance on key, dominant infrastructure. Client and hosting diversity thus remains an issue: > > - On the mainnet (PoW): [~82% of nodes use Geth](https://www.ethernodes.org/), while [~69% of nodes run on hosting services](https://www.ethernodes.org/network-types)([e.g. AWS](https://decrypt.co/44321/70-of-ethereum-nodes-are-hosted-on-centralized-services)). > > - On the beacon chain (PoS): [64.8% of validators use Prysm](https://twitter.com/sproulM_/status/1451065804183662592). > > - [Centralization of infrastructure has been an ongoing concern for the community](https://medium.com/coinmonks/how-eth-2-0-could-resolve-the-long-running-centralization-debate-c416b394e54c) and I think clients and consensus infrastructure need to further diversify lest they remain points of failure. ***** Would you like to learn more? 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deathbyfish13

Probably more to do with all of the LUNA questions

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Fit_Reindeer_7849

Legend has it if you burn all but one LUNA token, then that one lucky winner gets the full Market Cap Someone has to win something right

Still_Lobster_8428

How is any of it misinformation? OG LUNA holders are going to be airdropped MORE LUNA v2 then new holders...... That is FRAUD! 1 LUNA = 1 LUNA Terra minted those coins and then they were sold out into the open market and EVERY LUNA EQUAL! Now, Do Kwon has RETROACTIVELY decided that the OG tokens are worth more then the new tokens in the airdrop! That makes the original minting and selling of those new tokens out into the open market = Theft by deception! By retroactively changing the value of the 6.8T LUNA compared to the 725M LUNA and making them entitled to differant airdrop amounts, that makes the minting and selling of those 6.8T Theft by deception and fraud! 1 LUNA always = 1 LUNA! If he wanted to sell 25% LUNA's.... they require a differant fuckin name so people know what they are buying! If your minting and selling LUNA's..... Then 1 LUNA always = 1 LUNA! PERIOD!

dnotel

Someone asked why the CEO enabled LUNA trading and lied the minting has stopped while it didn't. It was the top and most awarded question and they deleted it. Fucking clowns

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kpopdj1999

But this whole analysis is silly, as you basically acknowledge yourself in assumption number 3. Obviously if the Terra ecosystem somehow recovers, LUNA will be burnt significantly as people resume holding/using UST.

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kpopdj1999

Can confirm, I am a shib and luna "idiot." I made nearly 6 figures on shib, and I was up 5 figures on LUNA till the crash lol.

borkhalenko

I am glad that I am not like those people who are still waiting for LUNA to do something good in this market, it's a fucking dead coin you all need to understand this simple thing.

Wubbywub

Months ago LUNA was at 100 usd, and you said you wish theres a dump so you can fill a fat stack at 60 usd. Today its at 0.0001 usd, and you refuse to buy?? SMH /s

nanaymonaenae

What crypto is on a sweetspot to buy a pizza? 10,000 moons is too much, 10,000 LUNA is too little.

patrickisgreat

If it gets to 0.005 I’ll have $20,000. Now I was an OG LUNA holder and lost way more than that, but it’s better than nothing.

narcissismiscool

BTC and ETH are some of the strongest cryptocurrencies out there, so it's not really likely that they would reach the fate of LUNA (although one could argue it was also in the top 10). For BTC, I don't think there's much to do except HODL. It's certainly not wise to sell low, and I don't see many other options. The market is down right now.

slayer2218

If I were you, I would buy TERRA blockchain and start LUNA burning mechanism to help people recover their losses :\\

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Still_Lobster_8428

>This is shameless fraud imo. 100% EVERY single LUNA token in existence, no matter where it is held should receive the LUNA v2 airdrop and every LUNA token is equal in the snapshot for that airdrop! When I bought LUNA, I saw no sign that they were LUNAdimes that I was being sold..... It was sold to me as: 1 LUNA = 1 LUNA

funnytroll13

Phew! Glad to hear that my LUNA has not fallen in price! Thank you, kind knowledgeable Redditor!

Still_Lobster_8428

>No. Do Kwon tweeted the exact opposite. Cex luna