HBAR

MakCapital

This is so bad. Bitcoin can simply be seen as a great SOV and measurement of global wealth. That's all it needs to be for a strong base case. Already accomplished. XRP and HBAR have no interesting fundamentals or users. No back room deal with anyone is going to get the world on XRP. Both would already have users if the current offerings were of any interest to anyone. They will never be valued like BTC. Stables on Solana already make XRP's leading advertised use case pointless. "Web3" is currently Ethereum, Solana, and Hyperliquid. No one is asking for, using, or needs HBAR or XRP. Neither will ever be valued as currency or "digital gold/silver". Neither offers a product that exceeds the current leaders we already use.

flash-kicks

Yeah I like Chainlink and HBAR alot

Realistic_Nobody4829

HBAR all day.

Equivalent-Bear8030

You’re basically choosing between narratives. XRP = regulation + banking narrative. It moves when headlines, partnerships, or legal clarity hit. Big upside needs global adoption to actually translate into price. HBAR = tech + enterprise rails. Strong fundamentals, but slower market recognition and less hype fuel. Real talk? Both need massive market cap expansion to hit those targets. $10 XRP or $1 HBAR isn’t impossible—but it’s not just “time,” it’s adoption + liquidity. If you’re going all-in on one: 👉 XRP = momentum + narrative plays 👉 HBAR = long-term utility bet Personally? I don’t chase “which hits X price.” I look at which survives when the hype dies. That’s where most people get wrecked. 💯

KateR_H0l1day

I have some XRP, not a lot, have a lot more HBAR, but that’s just me, did I choose correctly, we will see 🤷‍♀️. But for clarification, neither are my main selection.

BenniBoom707

The chances of HBAR hitting $1 are far greater than the chance of XRP hitting $10. A $1 HBAR is still just about a $40 Billion Market Cap. A $10 XRP means a Market cap around $500 Billion.

Quinthyll

Why are you not willing to invest in both? Diversification is the better strategy, but far. There are good use cases for both. Both have upside, but could and likely will move on different timescales. I personally believe more strongly in XRP than HBAR, which is why I own 5x more XRP.

CaffeineComaMode

HBAR has bigger potential imo...

No-Unit-6074

For a 3–5 year decision, the ideal approach is not just to compare price targets (nobody really knows them) but the fundamentals: tokenomics, dilution rate, real network activity, decentralization. I used [CryptoScores.com](http://CryptoScores.com) to compare both, it aggregates a lot of on-chain and fundamental metrics on projects. HBAR actually comes out better on technical solidity and low inflation, XRP has more volume and institutional liquidity. In the end it comes down to risk profile, but having data in front of you really helps make the call.

ChangeNOW_Community

no one can realistically "call" $10 XRP vs $1 HBAR with any confidence - they’re driven by different narratives

Whiskey_Water

Investing in BTC is investing in greed, investing in XRP is betting on Brad’s ability to make backroom deals with the current admin, and investing in HBAR is betting on fundamentals and utility of a clearly superior technology. I used XRP gains to buy more HBAR and BTC, but if I’m honest, I’ve been burned by focusing on the best tech before. We’ll see what happens this time, lol. I’m a creature of habit.

Think-Sector-6329

Hmmm focus more on XRP for the safer bet and HBAR for the bigger upside bet. But focus more on price targets and more on where real momentum and wallet activity are. You can also check tools like Blueblocx to explore other crypto opportunities to help you decide.

CreatineAddiction

I know you said not both but I do both because XRP has the hype to reach $10 in that time but bad ongoing token dilution where HBAR has less token dilution but not the hype. Im optimistic they will both hit these milestones in the time frame regardless.

Zito101101

Buy a little XRP and HBAR

MinimalGravitas

I haven't 'based my entire argument off it'... HBAR has performed comically badly whatever initial date you pick... You wanted to use a start date of December 2019 so let's run that instead: https://dca-calculator.com/en?sim=3e4a46aaa92ef608d7bcc50e50ea093f7961449af43d1e54d237459e8275fac7 In that scenario, over 6 and a half years of DCA you would have paid $7,700 and obtained 117,721 hbar, which would now be worth $10,290, a return of +33.6%. If you had instead spent the same dollar amount on ETH, over the same time, your investment of $7,700 would now be worth $20,026, a return of +160%. https://dca-calculator.com/en?sim=dc060986904ae781bf78f0348e9eff14aeae5171fc737fd8d6ee46f20e78253d So now we have run your choice of date range, let's go back to your claim of DCA for 5 years giving an average price of 3.5 cents. We both know you are lying, but I am curious as to how you are going to bullshit away from admitting that!

MinimalGravitas

> tbh im here to make money, Let's look at how that's going then... HBAR is -49% in the last 12 months, and is -76% since the token launch day (August 19th 2019). Are you sure you are here to make money? Compare that to ETH, which is +42% in the last 12 months, and +84,000% since token launch (August 7th 2015).

NorthpoleLovers

Getting rid of HBAR? Wow..

TheM0nkB0ughtLunch

1,000 HBAR to my brother in exchange for a Nintendo Switch

brianmonarch

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re making assumptions. You guys are forgetting one important factor. Partnerships. Hadera and Ripple have huuuge partnerships with huge companies. They’ve been building them for years. That’s why it doesn’t matter if a faster coin comes out. Who cares if it settles a transaction in half a second instead of two seconds. It’s all real time at this point …those new coins don’t have partnerships Those coins that do (HBAR and XRP) with huge companies like Ripple and Hedera championing them …. are being used for their utility right now. Companies don’t want to invent their own tech. Banks might. But I don’t think the companies mentioned above are even counting on Banks at this point. They have other use cases the whole Swift narrative is so old at this point. It was a thing people discussed five years ago. I don’t think it’s going to happen but these huge companies… They don’t want to hope that AI is going to make them something that is secure and perfect. That stands the test of time. These coins are tested…. over 10 years old now. They have shown that they are hack proof. At least up until now. This thread is just a bunch of doomsdayers, assuming the worst. It’s so obvious that 90% of the people in this discussion are bitcoin maximalists. Guess what… It’s the oldest, least green, slowest and least useful coin out of all of them. Periooood. All it has at this point is a store of value. That’s it. But these guys are in a vacuum chamber, surrounded by other people that have the same positive view about this coin. And maybe that’s enough. I’m not saying it’s not. But when utility matters… and I do believe it will… I don’t know what’s gonna happen to BTC after that point. But maybe its store of value will last forever and continue to grow. Definitely a possibility. But when it comes to utility and actually being used… Ain’t happening. Lightning network is nothing compared to the coins that are made for this sort of job. Look it up.

Confident_Manner265

HBAR uses axelar as a cross chain, chainlink doesn't.

1BadAzzWS6

40% $BTC, 35% $HBAR, and 25% $DOVU. Do your own research.

That-Comparison-3631

Chainlink and Hedera LINK; ISO27001 compliant, SOC 2, delivers ALL data on-chain if everything runs on Blockchain. HBAR; ISO20022 compliant, Quantum resilient, wide variety of use cases. Cross-border payments, supply chain management and RWA tokenization. HBAR’s technology can handle massive network use. If I had to pick one, I would choose HBAR out of personal preference.

Real_Bridge_5440

HBAR and ALGO. Sol also

defensorlucis

I think 95% will, clearing out the dead wood that probably should of happened already TBH. The one's with utility, roots, partnerships and connections are the one's will survive and then thrive in my opinion. I think BTC, Eth, Sol, XRP, HBAR, XLM etc are all most likey safe. I put ADA in that category too IF they do the things Charles claims will happen this year and next (upgrades, partnerships etc). But it's just my opinion, DYOR. 

That-Comparison-3631

BTC; HBAR; LINK; ICP; XDC; KAS. Bonus: DOVU (Super low-cap); OGY (Ultra low-cap).

SalamanderCoffee0975

A few example - XRP SOL HBAR

FeralFancyBop

Yeah same, quantum risk is like worry number 27 on the list right now. HBAR, ALGO, all these “quantum resistant” narratives are gonna pump hard whenever some scary headline drops though. Fun times, but I kinda doubt we’re anywhere near real-world quantum breaking Bitcoin in our lifetime.

joseaamanzano

HBAR and HBAR alone

Whiskey_Water

HBAR is resistant, Monero is working on it and frankly my smallest worry… it’s getting exciting!

Significant-Tie-924

Forget trying to time the market. I've been making way more from LP fees than from price appreciation lately. Running concentrated liquidity on HBAR/USDC — tight 3% range, actively managed. Earning $12-14/day on about $4k deployed. The key insight: volatility is your friend in LP. Every time the price bounces around inside your range, you earn fees. Sideways market = fee printer. You only lose when it breaks out of range entirely. Gas on Hedera is basically free ($0.23 for a full rebalance) so you can actively manage without gas eating your profits.

90Skill10Luck

My ai called u stupid The author understands what makes Hedera great (speed, enterprise use, deterministic finality), but they are completely inventing technical flaws about Kaspa to make HBAR look better. They are trying to apply Ethereum's problems to a network built more like Bitcoin.

Suspicious_Act4982

BTC is the only one where "too late" is genuinely off the table as an argument. The thesis is simple enough that it either works long term or it doesn't - and if it doesn't, most altcoins go with it anyway. For smaller caps the question is always whether there's a real product underneath the price. Most don't have one. The ones worth watching have utility that works outside a bull run - yield, credit lines, actual user activity. Nexo fits that category. HBAR and XRP are more macro/institutional bets, different risk profile entirely. What's your time horizon?

ma6ic

| Token | Jan 1 | Current | YTD | vs HYPE | | ----- | ------- | ------- | ------ | ------- | | HYPE | $25.44 | $35.99 | +41.5% | — | | XRP | $2.08 | $2.09 | +0.4% | -41.1% | | BTC | $87,520 | $66,696 | -23.8% | -65.3% | | ETH | $2,967 | $2,046 | -31.0% | -72.5% | | SOL | $124.52 | $80.83 | -35.1% | -76.6% | | HBAR | $0.268 | $0.163 | -39.2% | -80.7% | | TAO | $440.21 | $223.65 | -49.2% | -90.7% |

DimensionTiny8725

Moving the goal posts a lot there buddy, first you portrayed the other coins as having much better charts now you're saying because HBAR is closer to it's all time low than LINK it's so much more attractive (despite both having similar market caps mind) .

opg512

Sounds like you just got into Crypto from watching YouTube videos.. Not gonna explain to you how shitcoins work. Link has been through many bull runs from its age. HBAR & SUI hasn't. They're yet to explode. Its a high risk high reward situation like I said earlier. Why would I invest in Link for penny profit? That project is dead. I'm looking big returns. I'm the next bull run. Come back to this comment & we will see who ran up more.

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anymonero

Okay, since LINK being down 84% means it's a shitcoin let's compare it to some on your list: 1. UNI: -92% 2. HBAR: -84% 3. SUI: -84% They have the exact same abysmal price action but somehow they're "so much better".

opg512

Compared to Link? Absolutely! Especially since they're early. SUI only came out 3 years ago. & HBAR in 2020. Link came out in 2014 ...it's down 84% from it's all time highs.. That price action sucks.. it had it's chance.. Just another Cardano.

DimensionTiny8725

>Look at that 5 year chart Sui, HBAR and uniswap are so much better 😱😱

Time_after_Time_67

Sure… a layer 1 called Chainlink has revenue from the United States f’king government among other entities, but you put Bittensor, SUI, and HBAR which are all 100% speculative and have 0 revenue above it. Makes sense bro.

opg512

Here are my top 8 if i wanted to buy in again.. 1. BTC 2. ETH 3. Solana 4. XRP 5. Bittensor 6. SUI 7. UniSwap 8. HBAR Everything else is garbage imo.

East-Day-7888

Well my personal view, Chainlink is basically a window into DeFi. Institutions like SWIFT are using it to as a steping stond, but it’s still a massive gamble if DeFi as we know it will even ever be needed. TradFi will only adopt what adds value, like trust and finality, i highly doubt it will willingly relinquish its crown and ever need the full ecosystem long term. Crypto is like the dot-com bubble. After consolidation, the need for broad DeFi access will likely disappear. I believe in distributed ledgers, that’s why I buy HBAR for. But I don’t see a full shift to decentralization. TradFi won’t give up control, and that’s what Chainlink's success depends on. SWIFT using Chainlink is testing a public comitment to defi. If DeFi proves necessary, they’ll likly fire chainlink and build their own. If they think it has a strong likelihood to fail, outsourcing to link is the smarter move, instead of investing creating their own. So I appreciate your unquestioning devout loyalty to link, but fact that swift is parentered to link is only evidence that swift also believes defi will fail at bubble pop.

JustStopppingBye

I know youre an HBAR shill. >Also 99% of defi is a scam, Why is Hedera paying chainlink for data feeds then? [https://hedera.com/blog/hedera-adopts-the-chainlink-data-standard-to-accelerate-defi-and-tokenized-rwa-adoption/](https://hedera.com/blog/hedera-adopts-the-chainlink-data-standard-to-accelerate-defi-and-tokenized-rwa-adoption/)

fake_review

I started with about 20 Cryptos, Polygon, Algorand, Shib, some low cap coins…. Most were sold at a loss or totally failed. Luckily I invested mostly in Bitcoin, XRP and HBAR and still sit on a good plus with these three only. But honestly, XRP is play money by now, I dont even expect much progress from them anymore. Just waiting for the next cycle. Start with BTC and see how it goes.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Look into HBAR. It's legally owned and operated by leading organizations like Google, IBM, and FedEx.

AgitatedTelevision16

DCA HBAR, BTC, etc

Morningrise22

HBAR's RWA potential is very worth noting.

That-Comparison-3631

As someone who made this decision 4 years ago when I was 22. I would consider putting half in crypto. Investing in HBAR (aBFT / AI / RWA), XDC (aBFT / Hybrid blockchain / RWA), Dovu and OGY (extra long-term). So you can use the other half as a buffer and for if you want to invest in physical trade or E-com. Eventually if you decide to go 90% in I hope it turns out good for you and not like being still nowhere 4 years later..

Great-phoenix

Depends what you mean by good, but here is a short list that are not top 10 cryptos: LINK HBAR DOVU ASTER KITE CAKE RENDER ZRO

DoubleRNL

Tao, Link, HBAR, XPR, qnt

wancruz

I haven’t researched HBAR much, but what do you think about QAN? It’s currently on testnet.

lumpy_der_hund

ETH, XRP, HBAR, SUI, ICP, CC & DOVU all on Kraken 😉

Omn1Crypto

Go for the utility alts then, something tangible in the long-term like XRP, HBAR, XLM & ofc BTC, ETH

schmuhmuhu

Must be HBAR

Serious_Bell_5594

thanks for the post. just went and bought alot more HBAR. lets make each other wealthy!! always buy at a discount! very simple

ThriceHawk

BTC, ETH, LINK That's the golden trio. Then look at SOL, HYPE, HBAR. But the first three should be 95% of what you own. Stay away from XRP and the other shills pushing memecoins.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Do a little research into the Hashgraph consensus algorithm behind HBAR. You should watch the Leemon at Harvard video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjQkag6VOo0

oak1337

It's not a meme so I'm not treating it like one. I see this as a blue chip that's going to be a large part of all digital infrastructure in the future. When that happens? Idk no one got a crystal ball. That's to say, I bought and I'm in for a long term investment on it. I may sell 10-25% of my bag if it jumped super high, but most I'm keeping as long as possible. BTC digital gold, HBAR digital oil. Regulations are on the horizon. Governments, institutions, and enterprises like HBAR. TLDR idk how high. What's the backbone of the next gen Internet worth? What's it worth in the near and distant futures?

oak1337

Bullish on HBAR. It's at 9 cents. I'd either DCA to lower your average, or just hold and wait if you don't care.

YUSoOffended

The big 3: BTC, ETH & SOL! Also some smaller caps too: HBAR, LINK, NEXO

Whiskey_Water

HBAR and XMR. BTC maybe. I hold it, but I have less faith in it.

AdWitty4949

HBAR I’ll HODL. I believe by 2030, - 2035, that shit is gonna be my retirement. What an easy grab, to buy that shit now and just put it aside and the returns in 5-10 years will be more than any shit ass severance or retirement package any employer bank or long term investment will give.

amirdc

Solid trio—ETH for smart contracts, HBAR for enterprise adoption, XRP for fast cross-border payments 👀

amirdc

SKALE for scaling Ethereum apps, HBAR for enterprise adoption—both strong fundamentals 👀

amirdc

Yep, HBAR is showing steady development and real-world use cases, not just hype.

schmuhmuhu

Hedera network - HBAR

Brandonva804

Not life changing but I’m making about $30K from passive income in Crypto right now. Had to invest $200K into Crypto to make this. It’s doing really well in the bear market. Couldn’t imagine how high passive income will go when markets recover say XRP to $3 or Bitcoin to $150K-$200K. What’s paying me is Flare. Flare pays about right bow $1600-$1800 a month. XRP yield about another $7K. And HBAR a few hundred dollars. Waiting on QNT yield and XDC native yield. And I will also combine XLM, and Dogecoin yield on Firelight phase 2. Thinking when markets recover I’ll easily exceed $60K-80K a year. That’s while I sleep. I make $127K a year currently. Here’s to every one saying only buy Bitcoin and ETH. You can definitely make money with Alts. Now every year my $200K investment into Crypto is being returned while I sleep. I compound it all back in and pay taxes out of my salary. I think it’s genius what I’m doing.

JudgeCheezels

BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP and HBAR. My only 5 for the long foreseeable future

Immediate_Practice_9

5k bitcoin, 2k ethereum the last 3 grab some XRP, HBAR, SOL, BITTENSOR, AVAX

Commercial-Base-4774

For me, it's BTC, HBAR, ETH, XRP and then I'll have it locked by Nika finance for safekeeping.

joseaamanzano

HBAR for sure

daanishh

You have been following DeFi and L1s for a while you say. What is a whole, out of curiosity? This doesn't necessarily mean anything but I've been hearing about how HBAR is the next big thing since circa 2021. Tell me why it's not the next Cardano.

NoDrama6103

HBAR

Dovuite

Second this. HBAR and the ecosystem is building quietly. Kraken have started listing HTS (Hedera token system) tokens starting with DOVU and PACK with more to follow. 

daanishh

I've been hearing about HBAR for years now. It's starting to sound like the next Cardano.

North-Exchange5899

Focus on BTC, ETH, and maybe LINK for your main buys. Add tiny positions in HBAR, XLM, or XRP if you want exposure

caramelhawk

If I were in your shoes, I’d probably keep it simple and focus on a mix of the bigger, established coins like BTC and ETH, since they’re less risky and still have growth potential. Adding LINK is fine too if you like projects tied to real world tech like Chainlink. For smaller amounts, spreading across too many low cap coins can get messy, and their price movements are harder to predict. If you want exposure to HBAR or XLM, maybe just a small portion of your $450 monthly, and the rest in the more stable coins. Consistency is usually more important than picking the perfect altcoin. Some people also dollar cost average, buy the same amount every month, so you’re not stressing about timing the market. It keeps it simple and builds your portfolio steadily.

jwheel888

I would absolutely stick with the coins you mentioned. You will hear people crying about anything except BTC and ETH on here but, your biggest return will probably come from XRP and HBAR, with the amount of money you are able to invest per month. I think you have it figured out

GuitarsAndPoker

Good strat but if I were you I would move 10% into smaller caps over the next 4 months. AI focused and pure perf plays. My choice would be HBAR and Bittensor but DYOR. Good luck

CreatineAddiction

Nah just entry price really. Rough eyeball of 50% bitcoin 25% HBAR then the rest. HBAR wont pump until closer to 2035 -2040 imo so thats a long platy i dont have to really track.

schmuhmuhu

HBAR because a lot will run on Hedera.

financeguruIB

$AKT is good, $RENDER is excellent, $TIA is mid, $ONDO is solid, $HBAR is solid, idk what Monad is I would dump Tia

RichardRichard777

Chainlink works with SWIFT Maybe HBAR and XLM. Do a reaserch on their partnerships. Quant (QNT) is also solid project with low supply. Good choice may be also ICP. Always do reaserch and check theit partnerships. Many of theese crypto are now working with a banks and financials institutions. Good luck

NonVideBunt

Lulz. HBAR

Aapkaapna7

BTC + HBAR combo is interesting. What makes you bullish on HBAR?

schmuhmuhu

BTC and still hold a bit... But HBAR is the future... 

Gotglo

Hbar is a good play yes but you’re better off at least taking 50 or 100k and redistributing it into ETH, SOL, SUI, LINK or RENDER. You aint losing no sleep with 300k still sitting in HBAR. You can compound it back into HBAR after you take profits🤔

KateR_H0l1day

After BTC, I would think HBAR is in the mix as part of say a top 5, including ETH, I’m sure a lot of people would include SOL, but I think there’s quite a few more that could be included.

oak1337

HBAR This is the Hedera Council, who are building on and governing the network. https://hederacouncil.org/

TotalArgument5072

https://preview.redd.it/kvsdj1e6n4ng1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e626975635397ce8e2db02afcfc7c17285424ae2 HBAR’s interesting for the enterprise adoption angle,strong governance and real-world use cases. Not the fastest mover, but solid long-term thesis.

dyrnwyn580

Nah. Money has no morals. Adoption will drive broader interest. Money will flow. ETH, SOL, HBAR, LINK, XRP, AR, OP…

No_Giraffe_4647

It has already started there are few project like DOVU that started with carbon and ecological credits on blockchain using Hedera (HBAR) I am looking at others future projects about the above topics listed by OP if you know some please share I would be interested.

Donut_LordO

HBAR, ETH, XRP all have a shot

para1131_F33L

Missing $HBAR

oak1337

HBAR is the only thing I buy.

No_Giraffe_4647

The ones generating revenue I like especially HYPE AAVE UNI But as well exposed on HBAR DOVU SUI I am investing in CRCL shares as well

No_Giraffe_4647

Beside the major cryptos BTC/ETH I am stacking HBAR, HYPE, AAVE and UNI for the following reasons: HBAR has hashgraph tech which is pushing limits of scalability, energy efficiency plus speed at new competition level. It starts to create noise and more and more deal closed but still at a very discounted price HYPE because of the leverage provided to the crypto derivatives it is very popular and generating tons of volume and revenue. They are using a large chunk of this revenue to burn token and create more scarcity (max supply was originally 1 billion and falling) AAVE as key player for lending and borrowing cryptos which is very popular activity as well just after derivative leverage positions. The margin is not high but volumes are tremendous so it is generating pretty good revenue Finally UNI as swapping coins is becoming a national sport and they take a few bucks on million transactions so pretty good revenue stream, pity thing is that nothing benefit to token holders yet in regards of revenue sharing but it might change soon.

Murkoo

If the utility coins like HBAR gather momentum they will generate a lot of revenue. Bitcoin was always seen as the safe bet but it seems people are waking up to the fact that it only has value because people decided it does. The dino coins are performing badly against the new ones atm…

schmuhmuhu

Some HBAR for sure

hitmeup303

Why so bearish? Something like HBAR is actually more eco friendly than swift or visa.