HBAR

WolfofWoodstock

Good morning I'm familiar with HBAR

HBAR-P19-Inventor

I like your strategy and your energy: it would be great to have someone like you in my community. Did you know? I actually designed the HBR network for people like you. I hope to be where you are in 30 years, hopefully Bitcoin and HBR can last, but with the origin of bitcoin becoming public in the US and the new gov-fi restrictions I am telling my people do the research and compare Hedera hash graph to Bitcoin. Plus there is the under cover web 3 DCIA investigation which determined Bitcoin is debasing the U.S. dollar. Finally Trump is getting negative sentiment and many think he is to blame for the ghost inflation and the American public following the lead of his sons and buying Bitcoin. Many are losing big on bitcoin, and crypto in general. I am biased because I have the patent which ensures the HBR network work — distinct different from the HBAR network — which is run via Colonel Baird Hedera Hashgraph gossip patent. So remember all tech gets obsolete. Lastly the Epstein crew is saying there might be victim images stored immutably on the blockchain. So that is why I create circle chain via HBAR which is not immutable for those reasons. So I get the enthusiasm, just don’t forget everyone loses at times, and cutting losses and reinvesting in a better asset is alway better than going down with the ship. [why trade fi is selling bitcoin and buying HBAR](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FRG4388L) Lastly check out that book. Daniel Davenport Enterprises is the one who passed the Gov-Fi federal law infrastructure, and his team says he is coming back to stop and end all cryptos which are debasing the U.S. dollar. Just do you research bitcoin debases the U.S. dollar — plus you have to recognize it’s not going to be used to pay off the national debt. On the other hand Web 3 Vets is saying they can use my patent and Baird’s with other systems I am creating for them to 100% eliminate the U.S. debt, and give cash checks back to citizens. So this is why Americans have been ringing the phones in Congress. No one at BlockStream in Canada has come up with a marketing plan for this magnitude. So in the end, I think bitcoin has not re-invested as it should. They should not be saying it’s made by an anonymous person. Now the Bitcoin boyz are using that against them and calling it a foreign asset, that is non-American and we all know — even if you are not in America — the America First crew is not going to keep buying bitcoin with this new news. Plus for me as a Christian the major concern is the child porn images being stored immutably, I know I said that already — plus recent reports on the counterfeit bitcoins explains why it was not build to be auditable — where I personally knew I had to have audit mechanism in the HBR Network to get HBAR to 2,000,000 USD. It’s just hard to pay taxes on something that can not be audited, and if you are not paying taxes in America or designing things which lead to tax evasion you are going to be in trouble once you are under watch of the U.S. government. Still know we are all new to crypto, so I am glad you got rich on crypto. Just diversify. Spend .15 cents and buy one HBAR. From my viewpoint we are going to two million for certain because we have patented close code technology — where the news about bitcoins open source exploits via AI is harming the prices and more. So it’s just what we call a perfect storm. Lastly, I think we all agree the Bitcoiners lied to us they told us it would be money, the dollar is not going anywhere. Now we know how the dollar works, and they have pivoted and said bitcoin is a store of value. If you google “Daniel Davenport Gold PAper HBAR pro dollar asset” you can find the $50 report on Amazon. The first two pages is for free on the SEC website, but to see why so many are leaving bitcoin for the HBR network you have to read that report. The section from Dubai is the most hopeful. Well that is it friend, keep your convictions until you don’t have them, and whatever you do be blessed and keep God first, love you stranger. Stay safe.

HBAR-P19-Inventor

That is exactly what Hedera Law & Lobby set the profit taking for. They are the ones who the Bitcoin boys hired to outlaw Bitcoin. That is the whole reason why the scummy Congress went back! They paid them off to get back to work. I am just glad I built the HBR Network so I am close to this, but I feel bad for other still “buying the dip” this is going to get bad and there will be no government bailout if you are late on this read my sec gold paper entitled HBAR Pro dollar asset and read the references — The Bitcoin boyz are citing all my work and getting what I wanted done slowly to not cause market harm — they are shaking things up doing it over night. There target goal is BTC to $40k, then eventually zero in the next phase.

MartiniLAPD

You’re correct. However, we are getting XRP and HBAR ETF, so the lanes are merging

greenwolf_12

HBAR is good. I consider it high quality too , just don't have any

usmcmike27

Any HBAR?

manifestDensity

I am also down 35% on HBAR

leggmann

RNDR 55 coins at $18. Down 85% or so. Not a big dollar outlay, but it is a real Dog. HBAR is down 35% on 16k coins. Bit more invested in that, but I think it can rebound eventually. XRP is about even, swapped most of it into BTC a while back. Still have about 2k coins. BTC is up 45%, from an ATH of 68%.

CrewFluid9474

I’ve only been trading HBAR ups and downs for awhile now. Chased two pumps with my dry powder and got lucky there on fucking ICP 😂 and also the Pancake swap pump also.Market is to risky to be honest, I won’t be buying anything to hold for a long time. I’m in and out or not at all

Paradoxically8

HBAR

manifestDensity

I'm not sweating the TIT. It was a pretty small buy and it will come back around at some point. The one I regret is buying HBAR when ETH started to pump because I thought HBAR would pump next. I was wrong. I was 22% worth of wrong.

ComplexWrangler1346

SEI is pretty much bottom right now ……it is definitely a long term hold like ADA, HBAR is …,.it’s not gonna hit $10 anytime soon for sure but 18 cents right now is very tempting to throw 5 k in it

1BadAzzWS6

HBAR

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Zealousideal-Heat399

Ok fair enough,I want to keep xrp because HBAR doesn’t grow at all.I could convert all other crypto’s I have into bitcoin when the market drops or simply get some extra cash and put it on BTC.I don’t know because for the last months,BTC has been at a high price

Purplenastie

All crypto is a gamble. The safest play is BTC. The next safest you hold I think is HBAR. XRP is safe but I just cannot see much value in it but then I know nothing. For me, the best crypto to hold long term, for safety and likely massive return on investment is $QNT. Do a deep dive into Quant Network, it is easy now with AI. Everyone will shill their favorite token. Do your research and invest in what seems better for you. Better pick a solid project and wait than chase moon shots.

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Despaciito

Bought the HBAR and NEAR dip last week , lets go

Dark_Raiden_

Credit to u/biba8163 : Looks like nobody cared for random Altcoin ETF launches on October 28th: - Litecoin ETF did $1.5 Million volume on first day of trading - HBAR ETF did $8.5 Million volume on first day of trading - Solana staking ETF did $55 Miilion volume on first day of trading For comparison: - *"Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"* ---- ETF is going to create demand where it is already weak.

MakCapital

People are so obsessed with cycles. Yes, all assets tend to follow 4 year economic cycles on performance. Not just l1s. All that means is you reduce some exposure by taking profits when things are doing well and buy back as they drop lower. Nothing is ever over if the asset is Bitcoin, any L1 with real activity & scalable revenue, or any company with scalable revenue. Buy low. Sell high. Stop fearing whatever the current boogeyman narrative is unless the asset isn't backed by users and acts more like a meme. Those meme like assets with 0 users actually have no fundamental reason to go back up. That should scare you. Bitcoin is the only publicly managed currency that gets a pass on this, because the world actually values it as currency/SOV. XRP, HBAR, ADA and all the other 0 user stuff this sub holds doesn't get the same privilege.

Big_Maybe_8675

Like the stock market the top 50 changes. Some move down, up, vanish. I still like to own them all, just incase. Served me well. Crypto, I bought £500 of 20. Xrp, Sui, link, HBAR, xlm, render, avax, cardano, Litecoin, ondo, dot, sol, immutable...can't remember all but it's a good strategy since it's not something I worry about. I see the way the wind is blowing with the digital space, some of these are decent tech.

Big_Maybe_8675

There's no reason not to have some money in a dozen of the top 100. Tron, HBAR, sol, Sui, dot, render, near etc etc. If you can afford to diversify, diversify. They'll either do something or theyll do nothing.

DingDongWhoDis

>people will mention projects like HBAR, SOL, ETH, ALGO which have talked about how they might transition, but none have implemented post quantum digital signatures in their projects. 4 days ago: https://algorand.co/blog/technical-brief-quantum-resistant-transactions-on-algorand-with-falcon-signatures https://x.com/AlexaJaccarino/status/1985429871158575456

KazuFromUniswap

Used to be a huge fan of the Avalanche ecosystem, it's nice to see them growing again. Not sure I would compare LTC or HBAR to it though. Avalanche was one of the fastest growing ecosystem a couple years ago, fell off, and now they're back in the top 10 chains by TVL

Individual_Part_4229

I found DASH which is performing same like ZCash. I feel the old forgotten projects are getting hype which can show similar trend in other coins like LTC, HBAR, AVAX etc.

FrodoDBaggin

Sold about 200k of HBAR at .10 prior to the run up in Dec 2024. About 40k left on the table to take about 4k in profit. I think about it daily. Profits profit but it still hurts.

biba8163

> ETFs will save my shitcoin | ETF(s) | AUM | |:-----------|------------:| | LTC | $3.27 Million | HBAR | $67.88 Million| | SOL | $294.97 Million| | ETH | $19.56 Billion| | BTC | $141.18 Billion| https://etfs.canary.capital/hbr/ https://etfs.canary.capital/ltcc/ https://www.coinglass.com/sol-etf https://www.coinglass.com/eth-etf https://www.coinglass.com/bitcoin-etf

biba8163

> ETFs will save my shitcoin | ETF(s) | AUM | |:-----------|------------:| | LTC | $3.27 Million | HBAR | $67.88 Million| | SOL | $294.97 Million| | ETH | $19.56 Billion| | BTC | $141.18 Billion| https://etfs.canary.capital/hbr/ https://etfs.canary.capital/ltcc/ https://www.coinglass.com/sol-etf https://www.coinglass.com/eth-etf https://www.coinglass.com/bitcoin-etf

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Look into $HBAR, check out the Council and the tech behind it. Best project in the game. You don’t have to worry about timing anything, just buy and hold.

strongarm1985

I bought HBAR. Thoughts?

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1hty

ETH, HBAR, BTC. Not anything else anymore.

Opposite-Car2809

Im literally just laughing right now, laughing at my investment journey started this January, I put all my savings into meme stocks -> lose 20%, sell the rest and all in on 0DTE Intel puts, bought at daily bottom, lose another 30% in half an hour ->sell the rest and all in on crypto in April, hold ETH ADA HBAR LINK PEPE, I nearly breakeven in August, but then I thought we would move higher, so I ended up ride till now. I should've sell everything and transfer my money into QQQ in August, it's pointeless now. My money cannot last for another four years, what should I do

Big_Maybe_8675

Buy up all that link, HBAR, Sui, dot, avax, TRX. All of it. Scoop it up like a goat licking an ice cream

Big_Maybe_8675

Bitcoin will not go below £70,000. Won't happen. I doubt it will see 75k. 77k at time of writing. Good time to grab some link, HBAR etc

DankShibe

HBAR is a noob trap. It will be like ICP and EOS. Doge is far superior. Wait Santa rally and you ll see

Longjumping-Bonus723

Bullish for HBAR which can't be hacked like that :))

Facedownfinsup

Interesting. I just read this entire thread and in my humble opinion, there are many coins worth something besides BTC and ETH. For example XRP is a utility coin. The world switching to XRP as a bridge token is like upgrading from a flip phone to iPhone…. It’s faster, does it better, looks/sounds cooler. Then there’s the many other projects I see doing well in the next 5-10years, as more and more people turn to Crypto. They’ll see the price of bitcoin and say noooo way, and go searching for a coin they believe in - I think we got in early. There are also crypto with major major players involvement - I think HBAR has Boeing, Microsoft, google, a bunch of others ? Don’t see that one failing due to the sheer volume of top companies invested. But it’s not going to moon overnight, either. It’s a long term hold. My take? Stack Bitcoin. But if you have a crypto you believe in (I have my eye on a few), stack those too. Diversify. Keep Bitcoin as your “savings account” and then have your moonshot coins that you could see going somewhere in 5-10 years. Soooo many people jumped into alts this season with rose coloured glasses expecting to get rich in a few months. I’ll admit, I was eyeing 10$ XRP this year. Instead they got the regular crypto market… highly volatile. Nothing certain. Add in Tariffs, Govt shutdowns, talks of civil wars? Of course investors are hesitant. But yeah I do believe price is being manipulated lower this cycle - it’s anyone’s guess as to the reason. My take is mega rich elites don’t own enough of it yet so they need to shake out retail investors before the dollar devalues and we go digital currency. In which case, it just may be stablecoins backed by Bitcoin, but there are still a lot of other useful Crypto’s with real world utility that have a place within that system (XRP, XLM…) It’s just been a bumpy ride to get the regulations for these assets but if you follow the company, it’s coming.

MathematicianFun399

HBAR all the way.....anybody who disagrees can come see me in 5 years when their cleaning my 10,000 gallon indoor pool equipped with the ship from the goonies anchored in the middle....I'll be in the galley drinking all the Rum...

Big_Maybe_8675

This lot will sell of all their Link, HBAR, TRX, SOL, and it's not even began. Reminds me of people selling their shares of my Microsoft, PayPal. The worlds moving digital. It's happening. Selling at the start is not a good idea. 💡 But if you must.

Big_Maybe_8675

Link, HBAR, TRX. Done? Small firms? No.

TripsterX

Oh no 100% I agree. I only hold BTC(90%) SOL(8%) and HBAR(2%) in crypto. I've seen especially in the last maybe 2 months, so many catalysts have resulted in so little movement. Look at the release of the SOL ETF for example. A move I was planning ahead of by 1 year. And here it is. Nothing. Hey ho. Im starting to contemplate whether this is the beginning of the bear phase. If it is indeed am filling my pockets mate🤑🤑

HBAR-P19-Inventor

Bro. Just buy $HBAR or the ETF $HBR non-blockchain is the future.

randallmauel

I just dumped my entire sack of HBAR at a big loss. I wish I had sold on last weeks four hour long 18% pump. Oh well, good riddance to that coin.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Always bullish. I hold HBAR.

Lehcen

All my bitcoin I acquired is from shitcoins. Shout out to Shiba Inu, XRP, HBAR etc. still holding some waiting for an unlikely Alt coin bull market to offload the rest.

BenniBoom707

Here is the 1 year growth for the top 10 Alt Cryptos (no Meme Coins included): 1. ETH- 53% 2. BNB- 90% 3. XRP- 385% 4. SOL- 10% 5. TRX- 77% 6. ADA- 69% 7. HYPE- 1230% 8. LINK- 51% 9. XLM- 225% 10. HBAR- 325% Bitcoin is up about 58% in the last year. 7 out of 10 of these Alt Coins outperformed Bitcoin, and a few of them extremely outperformed Bitcoin. Bitcoin is great for a store of value and it will always go up overtime, but you will have the largest gains investing into Top Altcoin projects. Last year, instead of buying Bitcoin, you could have diversified into these ten projects and beaten Bitcoin by far. Also would have been a lower risk investment because not all of your eggs would be in one basket.

Tigernoodles1

It’s not the worst time since alts have been getting pummeled I just wouldn’t shill on xrp. Long term BTC, ETH, LINK, ADA, HBAR, AVAX is a pretty safe portfolio

biba8163

Looks like nobody cared for random Altcoin ETF launches on October 28th: - Litecoin ETF did $1.5 Million volume on first day of trading - HBAR ETF did $8.5 Million volume on first day of trading - Solana staking ETF did $55 Miilion volume on first day of trading For comparison: - *"Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"*

jawni

>Solana and Litecoin also launched ETFs this week, but Hedera’s so far has seen a tremendous amount of inflows. >How much? >HBAR’s ETF saw $8 million in inflows the first day, much more than Litecoin’s $1 million. Needs to be followed the the [chasing goose meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/goose-chasing-guy) with the duck asking "How much inflows did the Solana ETF have?". (hint: it was multiples higher than HBAR's ETF) It's wild that the entire article is just about the inflows, which only look good when cherrypicked against LTC's inflows.

MinimalGravitas

Crushing as in "crushingly pathetic? $8 million inflows in the first day compares to: $730 million for BTC's first day of ETFs and $108 million for ETH ETFs on the first day trading. Yesterday BTC's ETFs did $488 million and ETH ETFs did $184 million. Interest in HBAR is irrelevantly tiny.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Hedera's first ETF, launched by Canary, has seen significant success, with $8 million in inflows on its first day and $45 million by Friday morning. This ETF provides traditional investors exposure to Hedera's cryptocurrency (HBAR) without owning the underlying asset, making it more accessible and appealing to those unfamiliar with crypto wallets or exchanges. The ETF's success boosts liquidity, legitimacy, and long-term investment potential for HBAR, marking a significant milestone for Hedera in the crypto space. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Facedownfinsup

It’s like any stock… what company do you believe in? Future is going digital, whether that’s 5 years, 10 years, 20 years (I don’t think that long). There will be a need for utility coins. The allure to altcoins is, if you get in early enough, you absolutely can become wealthy. But… you have to pick the right one. And you won’t get rich overnight (esp with utility coins - they need actual utility. Are you prepared to wait for that to happen as the world changes or are you going to sell after holding for a couple years without much excitement) Do your research - I’ve got about 8 crypto investments. BTC - ETH (because I prayed and for some reason Ethereum popped into my head when I’d never even considered putting anything into Ethereum) … XRP, XLM, HBAR, SOL Is it pointless to hold the other coins? Depends what your definition of pointless is. They could skyrocket. They could fail. I personally can afford to lose the 4,000$ or whatever I have into XRP. Hey, I’ve never been great at saving money in the first place (I’m a spender) so it’s cool to be able to spend it on projects and companies that I see doing well with the *potential* to bring wealth should one or two of them hit. And then I will re invest again if I do make money for my children and their futures. And yeah I’m DCAing Bitcoin as well but I definitely have my “potential moonshot” projects where Bitcoin is just like, okay, I don’t have much but I’m buying it because if it hits 1M or something I’ll hate myself for not buying some now. And if Bitcoin hits 1M, you can bet a few other coins will have gone up pretty substantially as well.

randallmauel

My story is similar. Sitting on big losses with AVAX, HBAR that I bought around the Holidays last year. About even on ETH and BTC. I wish that money was in my tech stocks, much better result there (for now).

oak1337

Won't predict the ups or downs. The best way at this point is to go for the best tech and sleep well at night. Hedera is on its way to the top IMO. ABFT — mathematically the highest possible level of security for distributed systems. Cryptocurrency transactions throttled at 10,000 TPS and will increase in the future. Sharding to enable unlimited TPS. Entire source code donated to the Linux Foundation. Private HashSphere networks that can seamlessly connect into mainnet if wanted/needed. EVM Compatible. Fixed fees priced in USD, paid in HBAR. Trilemma defeated. All roads lead to Hedera.

HBAR-P19-Inventor

You should join my community. There was a release hours ago, which is going to kill bitcoin permanently. Are you family with the HBAR PRO DOLLAR ASSET and the power for my PARCEL-19 protocol. Google “HBAR PRO DOLLAR ASSET” and if you want to become a true news reports within our HBAR Network reach out. I have a new community too on Reddit but it’s basically for certain people with questions.

biba8163

OP doesn't understand what's happening. It's not the institutions that are getting rich off you but the Shitcoin Robber Barons who have become billionaires by dumping worthless premined shitcoins on gullible investors. Charles Hoskinson is a billionaire off from dumping ADA and now owns 11-000 acre ranch, is involved in politics to supporting RFK then Trump with his own PAC, recovered alien remains from the ocean floor and invested in genetically engineered bioluminescent plants that produce organic lighting! All the money came from dumping ADA on shitcoiners and ADA is still below 2017 prices: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ > **"Charles Hoskinson, Jack of All Trades:" Aliens, Cattle, and Plant Genetic Engineering** https://www.chaincatcher.com/en/article/2171707 > **Wyoming Blockchain Billionaire Has Big Political Plans, To Launch PAC** https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/01/30/wyoming-blockchain-billionaire-has-big-political-plans-to-launch-pac/ Jed McCaleb is a billionaire after dumping XRP and XLM (founder of both these token dumps) and is so rich he is launching a space station after scamming fools into thinking banks will use his X-Meme Coins > **Space station company Vast, founded by billionaire Jed McCaleb, acquires startup Launcher** https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/21/jed-mccalebs-vast-acquires-launcher.html All the money came from dumping XRP and XLM on shitcoiners and XRP and XLM are still at or below 2017 prices: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ And looking at OPs history, it looks like he himself has fallen for a Token Dump! The HBAR Bull Scammer was shilling HBAR when it was at $0.20 in 2019, yes it dumped to kingdom come that year as the Token Dump Scammers kept dumping and dumping but it's still the same price in 2025, 6 years later as it was in 2019. Since 2020, 1,000,000,000 HBAR tokens (yes, 1 Billion per year) have been dumped on gullible people and the price 6 years later is still $0.20. I am sure someone has become a billionaire off this token dump too. > **2019 The HBAR Bull Case** > *If we assume that the nodes and token holders split the transaction fees 50/50* **with $0.20 HBAR that would be a 2% annual return for HBAR holders...most high growth tech companies not paying a dividend (FANG graphic with Meta, APPL, AMZN, NFLX, GOOGL) any return on an asset with the growth potential of Hedera is pretty impressive** > *The most conservative method of participating in the cryptcurrency revolution is to just invest in Bitcoin.* It's difficult to do the research and determine what the next hot Altcoin will be. **What's more likely, that investors have looked at the information and deteremined that Bitcoin will indefinitely take marketshare? Or are those investors simply overweight Bitcoin and they have come up with reasons why they can stop doing research into other projects with more potential return?** *The latter is more likely the answer* *(2019, HBAR $0.20) (Meta 300%, AAPL 400%, AMZN 160%, NFLX 315%, GOOGL 340%, BTC 1,050%, HBAR 0%)* https://youtu.be/RK39WZw7QOk?t=1399

formerFAIhope

Bought Hedera when it was down in the slumps, 6-8 cents. From 2022 to around 2024, whenever I felt like it, I DCAed a bit. Otherwise, I spent most of it on stocks (only mistake was to offload META and NFLX because reporters were having a bitchfest panic - was my first time in investing so sold on marginal profits). Since 2022, I was reading up on Hedera, Hashgraph consensus mechanism, Baird and Harmon, GC minutes. By late 2024, I had a hunch, that they are clueless. The corporate members in GC robbed them stupid in broad daylight, and the academic was just giddy he got some money to do his college-level projects. If you try talking to its subreddit about it, it unleashes the most pathetic flare-up of circlejerking, screeching, sunken cost fallacies. Then came the ETF news. I waited till around ATH, and sold. Made a decent 5x profit. I still keep some around, will sell it depending on where I need to re-allocate funds. Rotate it to another altcoin I find has potential (that also had a previous hype phase and then crashed). It just so happens, that *when HBAR reached ATH*, more people started noticing it. Now, everyone keeps screeching around crypto subreddits, like they are the first people in the world, to notice the potential of DAG architecture in crypto space. But the whole issue is, how to build a reliable consensus mechanics for it, *that does not compromise on the three pillars of crypto*. And despite all the copium, Hedera is severely compromised on all three: decentralisation was a joke to begin with; it hides behind a GC to not address the gaping hole in security of Hedera network (1/3rd of corrupt nodes can destroy it vs. standard 1/2 for a serial Blockchain); that leaves scalability, which again hinges on the GC supporting it. All in all, Hedera was a first attempt at exploring DAG for crypto proper (Ethereum has some internal mechanism for it, but it's not much to speak of), and as so often happens, exploratory projects have a lot of flaws. Usually, in an academic setting, people learn from these mistakes and move on to better implementation. But Hedera is frozen in place, while bagholders who don't know anything about its technical limitations, keep holding it since ATH out of hopium. It still won't get through them now. This will get downvoted as usual.

Longjumping-Bonus723

Believe in my research and wait for as long as necessary. Waited for 2 years while accumulating HBAR. then it went from 6 cents to 20 cents. |=|

biba8163

Random Altcoin DeBusts on October 28th: - Litecoin ETF did $1.5 Million volume on first day of trading - HBAR ETF did $8.5 Million volume on first day of trading - Solana staking ETF did $55 Miilion volume on first day of trading For comparison: - *"Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"*

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

HBAR ate their lunch.

Common_Raisin_7753

HBAR, SOL and LTC debut*

TheFlamingoPower

BTC and ETH are the safe foundations, while projects like Ocean Protocol, Render, Avalanche, and HBAR actually *build* useful tech instead of hype. Those feel way more solid long term.

Ok_Education6042

Honestly, this is one of the most relatable posts I’ve read in a while 😂 The space moves so fast and every project sounds like *the next big thing* until the next cycle comes around. What helps me a bit is to separate projects by **use case** instead of hype, like payments (BTC, XRP, XLM), smart contracts (ETH, ADA, AVAX), infra/layer 1s (HBAR, Kaspa), and niche plays (Render for AI, Velo for remittances, etc). Then I try to see which ones actually *get used* or have real partnerships, not just whitepapers and promises. At the end of the day, nobody really knows which ones will survive long-term. The best you can do is diversify a bit, stay curious, and be ready to adapt. The confusion is part of the journey 😅

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Look into HBAR, bro. There's still time.

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Realistic_Nobody4829

Hedera/HBAR all day.

pedronegreiros94

Zcash is the picture of crypto 2025: LTC, SOL and HBAR launching ETFs, but it's a privacy coin, with 0 instuticional interest, that goes up only mode.

andujardaniella

HBAR Xlm Xrp

Longjumping-Bonus723

HBAR pumping! Rate cut leaked

Cesare5747

XRP is up 500% from a year ago, HBAR is like 450%. These gains just happened EOY 2025/ early 2025, shits not just going to moon after massive pumps like that.

biba8163

People actually believed TradFi and Institutional investors would be rushing to buy random shitcoins. I hope we can put the ETF hopium to rest after yesterday: - Litecoin ETF did $1.5 Million volume on first day of trading - HBAR ETF did $8.5 Million volume on first day of trading - Solana staking ETF did $55 Miilion volume on first day of trading For comparison: - *"Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"*

tylertheblac

Lmao bet I just looked a little into HBAR

UpostedDude

If you bought XRP low (recently) look at profit at maybe 3$ish. One day it will go to 5 but who knows when. HBAR is cheap now and has some momentum. 100$ buys you a fair bag but hold for next pump. With BTC iffy, most alts will tank so there is a chance to make your $s work. Don’t over enter yet! Time in market is better than trying to time 4 quick profit unless you like risk and loss. If you can wait DOVU will loose a zero sometime soon. For all the memes it’s gambling.

UpostedDude

I am prob the last that should answer, but. Take 90% of recommendations from here or anywhere as crap. Nobody knows except the Trumps. But, filter a list of coins that fit your price comfort range, or not. Get a calculator out and see if what you could buy will give a sensible return in a reasonable timeframe. Are you willing to hold? The market is on a knife edge so wait and watch and check. HBAR and DOVU are cheap with potential for a hold. BTC when the dust and correction settles and the shorts are out just as a diversity. Look at what has recently dumped and research it. If u bought XRP recently u will be ok.

biba8163

There is a reason Blackrock said they had no interest in launching ETFs for random altcoins - Litecoin ETF did $1.5 Million volume on first day of trading - HBAR ETF did $8.5 Million volume on first day of trading - Solana staking ETF did $55 Miilion volume on first day of trading - *"Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"*

randallmauel

I should have dumped my HBAR at the height of last nights brief pump. It would have still been a 30% loss but that money would be much better off in shares of AMD or SOFI. What a disappointment.

foreigngatekeeper

HBAR is a huge shit coin, quit putting fancy numbers out there to convince OP to buy your shitcoin

biba8163

> after BTC and ETH, HBAR is the next getting an ETF There is a reason Blackrock said they wouldn't launch random Altcoin ETFs - HBAR ETF did $8 Million volume on first day of trading - *"Spot Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 Billion in trading volume on first day"*

biba8163

I wonder why Blackrock had zero interest in random Altcoin ETFs? - HBAR ETF did $8 Million on first day of trading - *"Spot Bitcoin ETF volumes eclipse $4.5B on first day of trading"* - *"Spot Ethereum ETFs generate over $1 billion in trading volume on first day"*

biba8163

Warning about shitcoin token dumps like HBAR since 2017 and warning about HBAR before it was released on the market. These shitcoins always end up the same. > Don't worry, a new round of shitcoins will be coming with new hype. Soon people will be shilling about Cosmos, Polkadot, Hydera Hash, Fantom, Radix, etc. Some of these other coins that are in the top 25 will be gone the way Stratis, Golem, MaidSafe, Bitshares, SingularDTV which were in the top 25 at this time in 2017. **(2019)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bjohvq/daily_discussion_may_2_2019_gmt0/emd4p9j/ > And like I predicted new shitcoin scams like Cosmos, Polkadot, Hydera, Fantom, etc did pump. And expecting these scams to be around in a few years is just as foolish as those people in 2019 who were expecting Stratis, NEO, IOTA, EOS, etc to be around **(2023)** https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/17506yp/daily_crypto_discussion_october_11_2023_gmt0/k4ecz87/

biba8163

Yes, it means that HBAR is also a shitcoin like 99.9% of crypto luring people off a cliff with hype and fictional utility. **January 2018.** *194 out of 200 coins listed on the 1st page are lower today than they were 8 years ago. Keep loading and scroll further, 1,792 out of ~1,800 coins listed are all at losses.* MOST of these coins, you can't even sell at a loss because they are delisted on exchanges or there isn't any volume to sell without affecting the prices. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180103/ **November 2021.** *396 out of 400 coins listed on the 1st page are lower today than they were 4 years ago. Keep loading and scroll further, somewhere around ~4,995 out of ~5,000+ coins listed are all at losses.* https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20211109/

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dyinthecut

Your good. I would delete that #. Just hodle your XRP, XLM, Velo, SHX, HBAR, Avalanche

FiatFree

HBAR started dumping immediately! Why are these events always sell the news?

RamoneBolivarSanchez

HBAR maxis out in full force trying to cope

Odd-Potato-9903

LTC, HBAR, and SOL ETFS go live

LargeSnorlax

Anyone who bought HBAR in 2019 at anything other than the absolute peak is currently up 10-20x. At the beginning of 2020 it was $0.01. Other than launch, the highest price you could've bought it for was $0.04. I have never owned any, just noting this isn't the own you think it is. Way better targets.

coinluv

I can speak from experience. In 2017 I traded my Bitcoin(s) for all these great Alt coins and ICOs (Initial Coin Offerings). They went up and bust. After mourning my losses I started over in 2020. By strictly DCAing BTC I built a strong foundation that I don’t touch put in cold storage and it has consistently gone up and outperformed my stock. Now I do have a little “Vegas” fund to gamble with so I can FOMO and so far I’ve done well with XRP. I bought it @ .75. The others are; SOL, HBAR, LINK, XLM. I traded my ETH for ZBCN. Like I said this is my gambling pot. If they go up I’ll convert them for BTC. Some will win, some won’t, but my BTC stack will continue to go up.

cconnorss

You’re welcome everyone. Economy is such shit, I had to sell half my holdings of HBAR just to pay the bills.

Alert-Refrigerator86

the price will pump because of bagholders and then the institutions will rugpull and HBAR will be back to its lows

Cultivated_Mass

Doesn't matter. In this thread we just say things that are bullish for HBAR.

biba8163

I guess doing research on new hyped coins pays off. A lot of people who bought in HBAR early in 2019 are now breaking even. Congratulations guys! > **2019 The HBAR Bull Case** > *If we assume that the nodes and token holders split the transaction fees 50/50* **with $0.20 HBAR that would be a 2% annual return for HBAR holders...most high growth tech companies not paying a dividend (FANG graphic with Meta, APPL, AMZN, NFLX, GOOGL) any return on an asset with the growth potential of Hedera is pretty impressive** > *The most conservative method of participating in the cryptcurrency revolution is to just invest in Bitcoin.* It's difficult to do the research and determine what the next hot Altcoin will be. **What's more likely, that investors have looked at the information and deteremined that Bitcoin will indefinitely take marketshare? Or are those investors simply overweight Bitcoin and they have come up with reasons why they can stop doing research into other projects with more potential return?** *The latter is more likely the answer* *(2019, HBAR $0.20) (Meta 300%, AAPL 400%, AMZN 160%, NFLX 315%, GOOGL 340%, BTC 1,050%, HBAR 0%)* https://youtu.be/RK39WZw7QOk?t=1399

biba8163

I guess doing research on new hyped coins pays off. A lot of people who bought in HBAR early in 2019 are now breaking even. Congratulations! > **2019 The HBAR Bull Case** > *If we assume that the nodes and token holders split the transaction fees 50/50* **with $0.20 HBAR that would be a 2% annual return for HBAR holders...most high growth tech companies not paying a dividend (FANG graphic with Meta, APPL, AMZN, NFLX, GOOGL) any return on an asset with the growth potential of Hedera is pretty impressive** > *The most conservative method of participating in the cryptcurrency revolution is to just invest in Bitcoin.* It's difficult to do the research and determine what the next hot Altcoin will be. **What's more likely, that investors have looked at the information and deteremined that Bitcoin will indefinitely take marketshare? Or are those investors simply overweight Bitcoin and they have come up with reasons why they can stop doing research into other projects with more potential return?** *The latter is more likely the answer* *(2019, HBAR $0.20) (Meta 300%, AAPL 400%, AMZN 160%, NFLX 315%, GOOGL 340%, BTC 1,050%, HBAR 0%)* https://youtu.be/RK39WZw7QOk?t=1399

biba8163

Once upon a time there was a **fairytale of an Alt Flippening** - June 2017, just ETH and XRP had a combined marketcap that was 8.25% higher than BTC | 2017 | Marketcap | |:-----------|------------:| | BTC | $40 Billion | | ETH | $33 Billion | | XRP | $9.9 Billion| | **BTC Dominance** | **37.8%**| https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20170615/ But in the 8 years that have followed, there has been a **BTC Quickening** - October 2025, BTC has a marketcap 115% higher than the Top 10 Alts combined - October 2025, BTC has a market 80% higher than total Total Alt marketcap of tens of thousands of alts combined - The Altcoin Total marketcap has shrunk from November 2021 - The growth of Stablecoins hides BTC dominance - BTC True Dominance (when excluding Stablecoins) is now at 64% *This is what market consolidation to THE winner over time looks like.* It could not be more clear what the market values. | | Nov. 2021 | Oct. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $1.23 Trillion | $2.28 Trillion | Stablecoins | $0.11 Trillion | $0.32 Trillion | Ex.BTC/Stablecoins | $1.52 Trillion | $1.26 Trillion | Total Crypto | $2.86 Trillion | $3.86 Trillion | **BTC True Dominance** | **44.7%** | **64.4%** Bamboozled by the Bull Case for New Hyped Shitcoins and doing Research on Projects with more Potential > **2019 The HBAR Bull Case** > *If we assume that the nodes and token holders split the transaction fees 50/50 with $0.20 HBAR that would be a 2% annual return for HBAR holders...most high growth tech companies not paying a dividend (FANG graphic with Meta, APPL, AMZN, NFLX, GOOGL) any return on an asset with the growth potential of Hedera is pretty impressive* > *The most conservative method of participating in the cryptcurrency revolution is to just invest in Bitcoin.* It's difficult to do the research and determine what the next hot Altcoin will be. **What's more likely, that investors have looked at the information and deteremined that Bitcoin will indefinitely take marketshare? Or are those investors simply overweight Bitcoin and they have come up with reasons why they can stop doing research into other projects with more potential return?** *The latter is more likely the answer* *(2019, HBAR $0.20) (Meta 300%, AAPL 400%, AMZN 160%, NFLX 315%, GOOGL 340%, BTC 1,050%, HBAR 0%)* https://youtu.be/RK39WZw7QOk?t=1399

SeaPaleontologist661

HBAR

Captain_Fredl

HBAR sweet small penis pump after this news.

Dinkledorker

This is surely going to confuse the "others" chart. It tracks the top 125 coins excluding the top 10. So it tracks HBAR AND LTC too. Imagine there is strong demand for those altcoin ETF's, it will then single out SOL and LTC to rise. But that drags the "Others" chart up. Either we get a decoupling and the others chart stops holding any meaning and altcoins need to be looked at individually or it rises everything in the top 125 with it. Thoughts?

BackTo92

Crazy, that after BTC and ETH, HBAR is the next getting an ETF - love it!

thec4nman

I’m still down on HBAR so who cares