HBAR

joebmurphy55

I have no BTC at all. It was just too expensive to buy any substantial amount. Sure, I would have loved to buy it at $100, $500, or $ 1,000, but that ship has sailed. I just really don't see the point of buying $1000 worth of Bitcoin and getting 1/78th of a Bitcoin. Even if Bitcoin took off and doubled, I would only double my original investment. Not enough to retire on. However, if I spend that same thousand on XRP, XLM, HBAR, or one of the other alts under a dollar, and it takes off and goes to $5, $10, or $20, I have made much more with the same investment. I don't have the kind of money it would take to buy a substantial amount of Bitcoin that I could retire on, so for me it's just a matter of mathematics. Bitcoin is not an option for me.

ShittingOutPosts

You’re in denial. Wake up. Hedera launched with a total supply of 50 billion HBAR, which can be changed through consent of the Hedera Council. You trust these people with your money? Do you even know who they are? The max supply cap for ALGO is 10 billion, all created at launch; circulating supply increases as pre-minted tokens unlock and are distributed. The 2019 genesis allocation was heavily foundation-weighted. 25% of the initial supply was allocated to two entities, with another 25% to early backers, all of which are dumping on you. 100 billion lumens were created when the network went live. Currently a third of supply sits with one entity that sells into public markets. Again, dumping all over you. Enjoy being exit liquidity.

Mysterious_Sleep7443

You forgot to mention XLM, HBAR and Algo these are not shot meme coins, please adjust your original post to include what i have mentioned Thanks in advance

Longjumping-Bonus723

That's one thing yes but the other thing is if a enterprise is actually using a DLT it needs to buy the token of that chain as Fee (HBAR for example) and this is very uncertain still because there is no active law passing it was commodity... Taxes...

Dangerous-Bed-5885

BTC is pointless now. Could swap that for like 2,000 XLM or some more XRP, or a crap Ron of HBAR. Maybe even get 1.5 TAO

Over_Variation_1007

I bought in on XRP, HBAR, QNT, Solana, and LINK during the bull run so I’m down about 50% on those. I also got lucky and sold my Bitcoin and Ethereum near the top. I also sold about 20% of my XRP at $2.75 last September anticipating a bigger drop. I should have sold more.  During the bear market, I have kept buying, but have mostly focused on XRP, Bitcoin, and Ethereum. I’m down about $10K across the coins at loss, but about even when including Bitcoin and Ethereum. I’ll probably sell during the next bull market whenever that and keep DCA’ng every week or two until then. 

JustStopppingBye

HBAR is basically another overhyped L1 where the partnership narrative is much bigger than the actual economic value captured by the token.

Lasatra_

I only have 5% in altcoins (lost a lot) compared to btc and eth.. At this point i wonder if it's even worth to swap them and just either let it ride out till bottom or hope on recovery.. Alts in question: VET, HBAR, SUI

shxftgear

Surprised nonody mentioned HBAR!

zzscrubzz

Consider NFTs dead. Well established altcoins with utility profiles that are publically implemented into global finance such as XRP, LINK, XDC, HBAR, Stellar, etc are the ones to focus on. Ignore the fud, and 'hype', as it largely doesn't matter unless you're a cone who makes their investment decisions based on market sentiment.

schmuhmuhu

HBAR is much better with lower and predictable fees.

East-Day-7888

My education is on Finance not journalism, because if this I had chatgpt re-write my thoughts. In my opinion, no. Don't get me wrong—cryptocurrencies are going to change the world. However, the idea of a cryptocurrency becoming the global reserve currency doesn't make much sense to me over the long term. Nearly every major crypto asset on the market is valued far beyond what its underlying network can currently justify. Take XRP as an example. Its architecture has a practical limit of around 1,500 transactions per second. At a transaction fee of roughly $0.001, that puts its theoretical maximum annual network revenue at approximately $65 million. Using common EBITDA valuation ranges, around 4× is considered normal, 8× is relatively high risk, and 12× is highly speculative. By comparison, XRP is currently valued at roughly 3,000× its theoretical maximum network revenue. That's the definition of a dangerous bubble if adoption and economics fail to justify those valuations. That isn't to say there aren't projects with significant long-term potential. HBAR, for example, uses a different architecture that can scale horizontally, giving it a theoretical path to effectively unlimited transaction throughput. That means there is no equivalent hard cap on potential network revenue. Projects like that may eventually grow into valuations that are fundamentally sustainable. As things stand today, though, I believe the vast majority of the crypto market—with perhaps only two or three exceptions—is trading at valuations that are not sustainable over the long term.

Givefreehugs

lol- HBAR outflows have been terrible. And what you’re describing can be P2P, which is kind of the point. Whatever you’re seeing- I’ve been able to use my Litecoin to make real purchases and I have. Movies, dinner, coffee- I’ve been using it for all of that.

East-Day-7888

It amazes me people still belive in btc at all given its quantum resistance at a level of sha-256 is expected to be cracked before the next halving cycle. This is why I only invest in coins that can flow with security without having to pause the nextwork, let alone a hardfork, eg. HBAR

schmuhmuhu

Road to 1 billion HBAR ETF holdings

schmuhmuhu

Yes and HBAR

Hitachi22

Litecoin's utility is mostly fake. Go any Litecoin explorer and look through the transactions, you'll quickly see hundreds if not thousands of transactions that go from address to address within minutes. Price action doesn't lie. If there was really demand price would reflect that. The biggest proof of no demand is how poor the spot ETF has performed. It's been out for 10 months and barely has $5 million in inflows. Easily the worst crypto ETF by a landslide. Even HBAR etf has $50 million inflows. Those are real facts and proven assets.

Party_Operation_9711

What’s wrong with HBAR?

East-Day-7888

To be fair it makes more sense than eth, which has irreparable architectural flaws like higher payer front running. In tradfi rwa, corperations pay millions to trim miliseconds off their time. What could they do with a 15 minute block. Not that sol is any better the only real solution here is the one with architectural immunity to front running.....HBAR. My guess is with blackrock intends on front running

BioRobotTch

That is me. Do you realise that the EVM QRL are currently working with on testnet doesn't have opCodes which can validate PQC signatures? Other chains are ahead of QRL in so many ways. I don't need to mislead people to promote my bags such as suggesting a blockchain which has taken since 2020 to get a upgrade into testnet (mainnet soon!) is highly active. The whole premise of QRL is flawed. All cryptography schemes will eventually be cracked as computing costs fall and new maths is discovered so orphaned accounts coins will stolen. RSA 512 and 768 are cracked, RSA 1024 could be attacked by a state actor. The PQC schemes we use today will be attacked in the future too. The problem of orphaned accounts isn't solved by using PQC, it is solved with inheritance that something like 'DeRec Alliance' proposed by HBAR could allow. Multiple blockchains are supporting that idea now too.

Zito101101

Sounds like we need XRP or HBAR to settle transactions in 1-3 seconds. Glad you aren’t using ThorSwap

igoldring

The future of crypto payments running on HBAR 😭😭😭🥀

East-Day-7888

No one is saying crypto isn't the answer for these kinds of problems. What I'm saying is that the volatile tokens themselves BTC, XRP, SOL, etc. will never be the answer. Using them as settlement liquidity exposes everyone to unnecessary price risk and impermanent loss. There's no reason you couldn't swap USDc to EURc using stablecoins over a network like HBAR as the settlement rail instead. The entire "token as liquidity" narrative is completely dilusional and not how real businesses manage money. It's an idea that gets repeated in crypto echo chambers, then amplified by news outlets who use AI content trained on Reddit and other socials. a $10,000 XRP is a dilusional narrative created by people who do not understand how finance, treasury management, and commercial settlement actually work.

Much-Okra9895

HBAR. The only open-source network. Literally. (And a myriad of other reasons such as the highest security consensus algorithm, mathematically provable.)

BioRobotTch

You may well be right. But unless they have publicly shown how their testnet is deployed you cannot be sure. I have always found HBAR team to be pretty trustworthy so I would trust them if they have. Most people including me and even you don't seem to know if this is true though so we are going to rely on our previous experience of some less reputable crypto companies claiming massive results on testnet that then never arrive on mainnet. The only thing I think HBAR ever let me down on was trying to have permissionless nodes, but then not managing to achieve that. I don't think that was deception, it was simply technically not possible and it took a while for that to be realised. If anyone could have delivered that it was Leemon Baird if he cannot do that I don't think we will ever see a really scalable across 1000+ nodes DAG for many years when tech is faster.

semanticweb

can you share agentic txn stats on HBAR till date?

ProfessionalAir104

If you want to start small. Buy 1000 XRP. 10000 HBAR. 10000 XLM. 10 QNT. 10000 XDC. All of these company’s have great backgrounds and are backed by a great team. Buy this amount and come back in ten years. You can thank me. Shouldn’t cost you more than $10K or less.

HederianZ

HBAR

vnln

HBAR!

Terrible-Grass6136

HBAR is the one everyone will say “I should have bought when…”

gyeol9

Solid list, especially the fixed-supply logic behind TRAC/HBAR/RENDER — that’s the right framework to filter with. If I had to add a 5th angle to consider: XRP is worth a look purely on the “real-world utility that’s already live” criterion rather than “utility that’s coming.” Institutional payment rails, and recently x402/agentic payment infra building directly on XRPL — it’s less speculative on the adoption timeline since a lot of the infrastructure use case is already operational vs projected. Not knocking your picks, just adding a different axis (proven usage now vs future potential) to the screening criteria.

Independent_Bread980

HBAR seems well positioned for this

Quick-Scientist-3187

Kaspa👍🏻 Finally listed HBAR too! Love me Kranken Pro, beside the late tax record last year. 😅 All worked on fine tho.

JustStopppingBye

I would keep the tokens that have a strong connection to institutional adoption and tokenization, such as ONDO (governance token), HBAR, Chainlink, and Solana. Personally, I don’t like XRP and I would never buy it, but that doesn’t mean number wont go up. I think a lot of the claims made by the XRP community are heavily exaggerated. At the end of the day, XRP is primarily a gas token, and transaction fees are extremely small around 0.00001 XRP per transaction. I would consider replacing XRP with ETH.

Traditional_Most105

PROMPT - Wayfinder and future use of ai agents maybe ? ONDO - recent news about tokenization but questionable use of their coin TRAC - i found it useful in the future of AI info getting messed up and TRAC could be useful for verification of AI data RENDER - The case of maybe hollywood studios, small studios or independent artists using the tokens to use cloud to edit, create art, maybe movies, etc instead of owning equipment that costs maybe more than they can spend on? HBAR - it's token can be used if adopted but yeah news about enterprises adoption of hbar isn't out there but maybe it will be useful in the future? who knows. For the rest of stuff i have like PEPE and SPX6900 bought them just for the rush of it maybe going viral although i know the risks.. HONEY i bought it before researching more and sold half of what i bought although i don't mind keeping it there MON i bought it because it's small and it has a huge upside if later on gets adopted more XRP for the hype of it to be honest SUI as another layer 1 maybe.. So most of my choices i did was based fomo, some research, what people were talking about, based on their price. Not all of them like fomo, research, people talking and price are for each one of them... I know i have to do more research on each one of them and that's why i asked in here for people's opinions. Am not against any opinion in here if they are constructive, have points and answer with facts.

Traditional_Most105

First of all thank you for answering like this. Every comment in here is either negative or non what i asked. I will consider your advice. What do you think about these: PROMPT - Wayfinder and future use of ai agents maybe ? ONDO - recent news about tokenization but questionable use of their coin TRAC - i found it useful in the future of AI info getting messed up and TRAC could be useful for verification of AI data RENDER - The case of maybe hollywood studios, small studios or independent artists using the tokens to use cloud to edit, create art, maybe movies, etc instead of owning equipment that costs maybe more than they can spend on? HBAR - it's token can be used if adopted but yeah news about enterprises adoption of hbar isn't out there but maybe it will be useful in the future? who knows. For the rest of stuff i have like PEPE and SPX6900 bought them just for the rush of it maybe going viral although i know the risks.. HONEY i bought it before researching more and sold half of what i bought although i don't mind keeping it there MON i bought it because it's small and it has a huge upside if later on gets adopted more XRP for the hype of it to be honest

oak1337

HBAR is fuel on the network. Usage forces token demand by protocol rule. LINK is a buyback story. Usage generates company revenue, and the company voluntarily spends some unknown fraction of it buying LINK. It's a "trust me" buyback, not protocol mandatory fuel like HBAR is.

Arijan101

>I'm literally typing all this out, asshole. It really does sound like you're pulling it out of you asshole. >But thanks for the compliment I guess? You're very welcome. >You've yet to say anything of substance, and you've already been dismissed as a non-contender. Since you're not smart enough to read between the lines, or read in general, let me simplify it for you: Crypto was never about tech, it was always about generating enough hype to convince suckers, such as yourself, to buy in so that the founders and maybe a few whales, can dump their bags at a profit. HBAR is no different, then any other 💩 coin. So even though you think you're doing research, learning new things and investing into the future of blockchain or finance, what you're actually doing is falling for an elaborate scheme to be exit liquidity for bigger players. TLDR: You're not a digital pioneer investing in cutting edge tech, you're just a dumb ass who fell for a scam and will be used as exit liquidity.

oak1337

Wrong again. Here we go, claim by claim: >**Permissioned means it's a centralized from the start.**\* False. There are 4 scenarios: 1)Permissioned & Centralized 2)Permissioned & Decentralized 3)Permissionless & Centralized 4)Permissionless & Decentralized Hedera is number 2. Bitcoin, Ethereum, Algorand, etc are number 3. >***That permission can be stripped by this group at any point.*** False. Yes, running a node is permissioned, but reading/writing/transacting on the Hedera is permissionless. No one, not even a Council member, can stop you from interacting with the network. If some entity tried to block you from one node, submit to another. Leaderless. Permissionless access. It is not possible for the Council or anyone else to restrict account creation, freeze or prevent cryptocurrency transactions, or reverse or alter them. The only state-modification ability is deleting hosted files, retained solely for removing unambiguously illegal content (like pedo stuff). >***Not controlled, operated, and run by the public.*** False. The Council **does not own or control the source code**. The source code was open sourced with Apache 2.0 and then **donated to Linux Foundation.** Literally community run through Linux. [https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero](https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero) >***They set the rules. They set the economics. They determine revenue flow.*** Yes, the Council reviews pricing roughly quarterly and must majority vote on all fee schedule changes. That's a feature, not a bug. The only thing that matters to an HBAR holder is HBAR price, not the fees charged or revenue received by the Hedera Treasury. Let the Council decide how to price, they are literally experts from 39 Fortune 1000 companies and top tier Universities. >***Agreements made over corporate law.*** The LLC agreement is public: equal votes, 3-year terms, max two consecutive, up to 39 members. Corporate law is what makes those constraints enforceable. Council members can sue each other for violating them. That's a stronger check than most on-chain governance, where a whale coalition faces no legal recourse at all. >***Agreements like the issuer having a guaranteed seat.*** Yes, Hashgraph (formerly Swirlds) has a permanent seat. They are the organization that did the initial mint of 50 billion fixed supply. They are the organization that builds things like HashSpheres and CLPR, and maintain the network with updates, etc. They have 1/39th permanent control. >***You can't build truly open and global finance on this and they wouldn't want that liability.*** 100% false. Unknown validators means that a regulated institution can't guarantee that they're not making fee payments to North Korea, China, Russia, Iran, or some random terrorist organization by simply using a network. Plenty want to use Hedera's model. [https://www.gdf.io/resources/unlocking-capital-with-u-s-tokenized-money-market-funds-for-collateral-mobility/](https://www.gdf.io/resources/unlocking-capital-with-u-s-tokenized-money-market-funds-for-collateral-mobility/) https://preview.redd.it/7nsjmv7naidh1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63dc765717ebb2620b0f383e0f23e106e9ce7577

oak1337

Let's go claim by claim here. >Permissioned True. Only Hedera Council members can operate a node (currently). They are on a "Path to Permissionless", but that comes with scale. As Hedera scales, more nodes/shards are required. Shards can be added as needed (linear/horizontal scaling). That's when permissionless comes into play. Leaderless means all nodes participate in every transaction. Can't just add nodes like a permissionless chain can (yet), or it will increase Time to Finality (TTF) to wait for gossip to all nodes. Conversely, with only 1 Block Leader at a time, it doesn't matter how many nodes you have. Only 1 node decides the order at a time. Permissionless =\= Decentralized That's why ETH has 13,000 nodes and a Nakamoto of 1, and Algorand has a 1400 nodes and a Nakamoto of 2. And BTC with a Nakamoto of 3. They're all spectators, your node is a paperweight, it's psuedo-decentralization. >centralized False. Centralized vs Decentralized has to do with **distributed "power" and "control".** For example, a single "block leader" that unilaterally has the "power and control" over transaction order, is centralized. "Leaderless" means all nodes participate equally in every transaction. All nodes are relatively equal. **Equal Node Consensus Power**. Each node has 1/39th "control" over the network. Guaranteed Decentralization as it scales (add more equal nodes/shards, Nakamoto increases). Hedera Council are up to 39 members, all with **1 equal vote on Governance** (equally distributed "power"). London School of Economics has the same vote as Google, IBM, Dell, Accenture, Hitachi, McLaren, FedEx, or any other Council member. Limited time duration of governance "control or power," with 3 year terms, maximum 2 consecutive, rotating. Governance consists of network updates, maintenance, Treasury allocations, etc. Hedera has ~87% coin distribution, so the **Treasury only "controls" ~13% of coins.** >They astroturf the hell out of Reddit and other social media. False. One of the top things Hedera gets slammed for by the community is zero marketing, zero advertising. >Buy assets with real public ownership over the protocol or company. HBAR is not a stock, it's a commodity, as ruled by the SEC and CFTC. >X link in profile for honest human takes and analytics. False. 500 followers and include unresearched and under informed opinions like this one.

Arijan101

You think you're smart because you use AI slop to shill a dead project no one cares about? LOL. 😂 Your post has the average depth of a sidewalk puddle. Crypto is a solution in the search of a problem, it's a pointless waste of time and money, and everyone turned to the newer and shineer thing that is AI. So yeah, now that the hype is gone, HBAR is just another alt coin, in a long series of alt coins, no one uses and no one cares about.

RedKe

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I feel like this topic can't really be discussed on subreddits dedicated to a single coin properly but I am interested in what fellow HBAR holders think of other coins. I will need to research LINK tokenomics more but I thought even if fiat or other tokens are used for payment those are ultimately exchanged for LINK which increases demand. Algorand used to be one of my top choices but over time I have dropped my interest in it. Although it is great tech it seems to have a poorly organized foundation, and the founder (Silvio Micali) is creating another chain for institutions so seems to have given up on Algorand gaining widespread adoption. NEAR, ICP, SUI, and Aptos seem to have some interesting tech and I hold a little of them in case they take off some day, but I also keep mostly investing in Hedera. I just wish Hedera showed more institutional adoption progress like Stellar, Canton, and ETH seem to be getting.

oak1337

Plenty of people care. The goal is for CLARITY and utility to decouple winners from BTC. The value proposition is the Trust Layer of the Internet of Value. TradFi/DeFi, RWAs, Stablecoins, Payments, AI Trust, Agentic Commerce, IoT, DePIN, Insurance, Energy/ESG/Carbon, Supply Chain, Global Logistics/Shipping, etc, etc, etc... Hedera has pilots, POCs, announcements, etc in all those sectors and more. The industry is waiting on regulations. The goal is millions, or tens of millions, or billions of TPS. The world's TPS, with every transaction on Mainnet requiring HBAR.

oak1337

It's currently at 6 cents. If it does everything it intends to do, I think it's easily a multi-trillion dollar asset. Hedera with $1 trillion market cap is $20. But even if it only goes to $1, or $5, or $10... It's at 6 cents now. That's a 16x, 83x, or 166x on your investment. ETH is at ~$2000.... People are calling for a $10,000 ETH (I think that's wrong but we'll see). That would be a 5x on your investment. 🤷 HBAR has a far better asymmetric upside, IMO. NFA DYOR.

oak1337

I personally only hold HBAR. If I had to say others... BTC if you believe in the long term narrative. Started as "the new digital currency for the world", but switched to "digital gold" because it was too expensive and slow to transact. Therefore it's really turned into "hold, hope the next guy buys higher". LINK is connected everywhere which is good, but there's no real driver of coin price. The tokenomics are bad, since LINK can be completely circumvented for everything. Another very speculative one, but name recognition can drive price. Algorand is probably the best "traditional blockchain" tech out of the rest. ICP is also good tech, but it's niche. Stellar is getting traction, but has scalability issues. Canton also getting traction, but has God awful tokenomics. Quant is an interesting one, but not sure the total role it will play when things shake out. There's some other interesting ones like Ondo, Render, Bittensor, NEAR, etc... But that's probably where I'd stop. I don't have long term faith in (almost) any of them except Hedera. That's not to say money can't be made along the way.

RedKe

What other crypto do you think have long term potential like HBAR? HBAR, BTC, and LINK are my largest crypto holdings. But I also hold small amounts of multiple other layer 1s.

oak1337

But I didn't lose all my money... I'm in profit. It's not a worthless project...and I didn't tell anyone to buy HBAR... I'm opening a technology debate. Sooo.... Yea. Next contender? This guy is useless.

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Post is by: oak1337 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1uxampy/in_the_end_all_roads_lead_to_hedera_hashgraph_hbar/ Hedera Hashgraph (HBAR). **Leaderless** architecture completely eliminates MEV, Frontrunning, Sandwich Attacks, etc. Any chain with a Block Leader has these problems and has some way of trying to "mitigate" it. **Don't mitigate, eliminate!** Block Leaders are also a security issue, since if you shut down the centralized single leader (DDOS), you shut down the network. **ABFT (Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance).** This was an unsolved math problem in computing since \\\~1982 (over 40 years). Dr. Leemon Baird solved it using \*\*Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting\*\*. It is the gold standard of consensus algorithms and will never be beaten. Perfect mathematics. \[https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/\](https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/) **Fees are fixed in USD, and paid in HBAR**. This makes it easy to forecast costs for users. \[https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees\](https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees) It has **Unlimited Scalability**. The current throttle is 10,000TPS, but that is a conservative throttle on a single shard. Add more nodes/shards to add more scale, as needed. Unlimited. **Modular Design for easy upgrades.** Hedera has the perfect mathematical foundation of Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting. Everything on top of that can be plug and play. This is why it will only take changing a couple lines of code to upgrade to Post-Quantum Security. **Hedera should be Post-Quantum with ML-KEM (waiting on libraries) and Falcon Signatures (waiting on NIST) by 2027.** Add that Hedera is already SHA384 and AES256, both Post-Quantum. \[https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/\](https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/) It is **Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale**, meaning it's Nakamoto will only increase as it scales. All nodes are essentially equal (Gini and Theil Index), so adding more nodes/shards only increases Nakamoto. https://www.nodiens.com/market-research-reports# (Decentralization Comparative Model Across Blockchains) Full Hedera code base has been \*\*open sourced with Apache 2.0 and donated to Linux Foundation.\*\* \[https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero\](https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero) **Private HashSpheres, ZK Proofs, and encrypted messages to Mainnet,** means you can use your own private network that seamlessly connects to Mainnet, or keep your transactions private in many ways. https://hashgraph.com/blog/introducing-hashsphere-a-private-permissioned-network-powered-by-hedera/ **Cross-Ledger Protocol (CLPR)** enables cryptographically-secured communication and token transfers between independent blockchain networks–all without bridges, pooled liquidity or intermediary validator networks. Bridges are the most hacked/scammed part of crypto, so CLPR offers **bridgeless bridging.** https://hashgraph.com/clpr/ It's also **governed and being built on by a diverse set of Global Fortune 1000's and University's**. They have 3 year terms (max 2 consecutive terms, max 39 members), and all have 1 equal vote on governance issues. This means the Council rotates and power is never consolidated. https://hederacouncil.org/ **In short TLDR**: leaderless, best possible ABFT consensus, best possible SHA384 AES256 ML-KEM Falcon Signatures Post-Quantum Security, Unlimited Scalability, Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale, fully open sourced with code donated to Linux, private HashSphere, connect to any network with CLPR, with a rotating expert governing council that is building enterprise grade solutions. Any questions? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

oak1337

Hedera Hashgraph. **Leaderless** architecture completely eliminates MEV, Frontrunning, Sandwich Attacks, etc. Any chain with a Block Leader has these problems and has some way of trying to "mitigate" it. Don't mitigate, eliminate! Block Leaders are also a security issue, since if you shut down the centralized single leader (DDOS), you shut down the network. ABFT (Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance). This was an unsolved math problem in computing since \~1982 (over 40 years). Dr. Leemon Baird solved it using **Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting**. It is the gold standard of consensus algorithms and will never be beaten. Perfect mathematics. [https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/](https://hedera.com/blog/coq-proof-completed-by-carnegie-mellon-professor-confirms-hashgraph-consensus-algorithm-is-asynchronous-byzantine-fault-tolerant/) **Fees are fixed in USD, and paid in HBAR**. This makes it easy to forecast costs for users. [https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees](https://docs.hedera.com/networks/fees) It has **Unlimited Scalability**. The current throttle is 10,000TPS, but that is a conservative throttle on a single shard. Add more nodes/shards to add more scale, as needed. Unlimited. **Modular Design for easy upgrades.** Hedera has the perfect mathematical foundation of Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting. Everything on top of that can be plug and play. This is why it will only take changing a couple lines of code to upgrade to Post-Quantum Security. **Hedera should be Post-Quantum with ML-KEM (waiting on libraries) and Falcon Signatures (waiting on NIST) by 2027.** Add that Hedera is already SHA384 and AES256, both Post-Quantum. [https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/](https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/) It is **Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale**, meaning it's Nakamoto will only increase as it scales. All nodes are essentially equal (Gini and Theil Index), so adding more nodes/shards only increases Nakamoto. Full Hedera code base has been **open sourced with Apache 2.0 and donated to Linux Foundation.** [https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero](https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/projects/hiero) In short: leaderless, best possible ABFT consensus, best possible SHA384 AES256 ML-KEM Falcon Signatures Post-Quantum Security, Unlimited Scalability, Guaranteed Decentralization over time/scale, fully open sourced with code donated to Linux. It's also governed and being built on by a diverse set of Global Fortune 1000's and University's. https://preview.redd.it/629pbn012fdh1.jpeg?width=918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2b1b470bb578aaecba269e450c153be5487ad15

Peach_Lover_101

My "all time" is break even only due to selling MANA at the top (80x, my only real successful crypto trade). Should have sold everything back then. round tripped the rest of the pile twice like a retard. though if you held about half of your stash in ETH and BTC you shouldn't look as bad as that. The Coinbase bag is mostly dinosaurs: BTC, ETH, LINK, XRP, XLM, ADA, HBAR. Got more adventurous plays on Kraken and Coinbase wallet which honestly, I'm afraid to even look at.

Most_Ad7277

How u feeling about KASPA and HBAR?

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus. Post-Quantum Secure by 2027 (ML-KEM and Falcon Signatures). Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera. https://preview.redd.it/ossiwx0390ch1.jpeg?width=970&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c91244062ded60855e3f33142e536076cdf466f

end32urzm

While I agree, we've seen superior tech fail time and time again. Still bullish on HBAR long term but I wouldn't be surprised if ETH pumps in the next few years, sometimes that's just how it is.

oak1337

Leaderless Fair Ordering. No MEV. No frontrunning. No sandwich attacks. No "priority fees". Fixed low fees priced in USD but paid in HBAR. ABFT gold standard consensus/security. Unlimited Scalability. Add shards as needed. Guaranteed decentralization over time/scale, since all nodes are equal, and you can add nodes/shards as needed to scale. Nakamoto score will only increase. In the end, all roads lead to Hedera.

oak1337

Idk how anyone can be bullish on ETH... Vitalik literally just said they have to rebuild and redesign the entire protocol over the next 3-4 years (optimistic). "Lean Ethereum", because it's too complicated, too centralized, not secure enough (quantum), can't scale, etc. Bye bye ETH, it was nice knowing ya! HBAR is the future! All roads lead to Hedera!

KwazyHombre

LMAOO you HBAR shillers are so funny

SkyEnvironmental7746

I can’t tell you what to buy. Personally if I was starting fresh I’m buying XRP, QNT, HBAR.

Longjumping-Bonus723

HBAR

OrdinaryEvening3684

Why does everyone mention HBAR when this question is asked. I’m convinced it’s all bots. It’s doing terrible the price is so bad. It’s a scam

LOPS008

HBAR

blur04

BTC obviously HBAR ALGORAND XRP XDC XLM

MinimalGravitas

> Hedera is the new Cardano * Fake hype built around misleading announcements - Check; * Presenting out-of-context stats to trick low information retail investors - Check; * Low single digit TPS - Check. You might be onto something! The only real difference is that ADA is still trading above it's launch price, whereas HBAR is down so much that it's even below the price paid by pre-launch SAFT 3 investors!

Novel-Common-3547

Talking about future, we have to take into account a possibility of crypto space being more and more (if not fully) integrated into current financial systems. With that in mind, big financial institutions would probably go with ISO compliant cryptos. Those are mainly XRP, ADA, XLM, MIOTA, ALGO, HBAR, XDC and QNT. Will BTC be around? Well, probably yes. Being the biggest now, being considered a store of value “like gold”, it will probably be with us for many many many years. Big players like ETH and SOL have big and great communities behind them. But, I am honestly not sure if that is enough, if cryptos become integrated. I think they would, if not being ISO compliant, lose its value. Interesting, tho very speculative, is Worldcoin. Sam Altman being one of the creators and Peter Thiel being one of the primary financial backers, who knows what can happen.

Professional_You_808

HBAR

Spinrek

HBAR - 100 year company ~ big company mindset

finniruse

Actually, if you held a gun to my head and said buy another altcoin, is probably choose xrp. The privacy mechanic, and the fact it's been around so long, definitely makes it interesting. Still, just bet on the king. Don't know HBAR.

CoinlessComedian

Thanks for the input, but what do you think about HBAR and XRP?

SkyEnvironmental7746

😂😂😂😂Make sure to return Bitcoin halving 2028-2029. You gone be in tears for selling HBAR

Sleepycoiner

Flare? QNT? 😂😂😂 I bought all the alts that were supposed to be the "future". NEO, XRP, tron, ada, harmony one, HBAR, AVAX, etc. Everything you are holding is a bunch of dogshit. Sorry to tell you. Theres a reason you're down 60%+. Stop buying shit alts

SkyEnvironmental7746

No lol. Plus HBAR is compounding I get more doing nothing.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Liquidate it all and buy more $HBAR

Beginning_Pop_4637

Without a doubt, Yes, It’s a good time….. Market leaders only, Bitcoin, Etherium, HBAR, AAVE, ADA, Solana, XLM.   Those are some great ones, there are others.   

SkyEnvironmental7746

That’s what I expect from Flare but in the long term we’ll mature like ETH and SOL. HBAR as well. I’ll see you in 2028-2030 make sure to come back and congratulations to me. 😙

MrFilipas

HBAR too?

Zito101101

Buy more XRP sell some flare to do it and buy more HBAR - no one commenting understands how essential XRP will be or is in Asia and the U.S. and already the backbone behind dying financial management

SkyEnvironmental7746

All of it is compounding. FLARE, XRP, HBAR. Soon XLM and Doge will join. Paying taxes on it out of my salary.

SkyEnvironmental7746

Just don’t let go XRP, QNT, HBAR, XLM, XDC, these in my opinion are long term holds. 10 years

SkyEnvironmental7746

FLARE compounds see how you all don’t even know about the asset but shit on it. And so does HBAR.

SkyEnvironmental7746

Flare pays me like $7K a year and my HBAR and XRP compounds

SkyEnvironmental7746

For sure HBAR

Professional_You_808

HBAR

00roast00

HBAR definitely. Perfect match for an AI future

CryptoAnarchyst

HBAR is an absolute scam man, look at tokenomics, look at the chain performance, look at the person who is running it… the guy is a sheister. The companies that “started” it don’t want to have anything to do with it. And tell me what problem is HBAR actually solving? It’s been around for 7 years and it hasn’t had an ATH since inception. I’ve been in space for well over a decade and every single chain that has shown promise is a scam. SOL… VC backed shitcoin that is using holders as exit liquidity… HBAR is the same.

schmuhmuhu

HBAR

schmuhmuhu

So does HBAR https://hedera.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-and-blockchain/

CryptoAnarchyst

Lmao… HBAR? … poor guy

Novel-Common-3547

I can see QNT - Quant gain much more value in some 10 years time. Not only is it an overledger technology that is ISO compliant, it has also a great ex-HSBC guy behind it as well as the number of tokens is lower than BTC. But from the more known ones, my money is on HBAR, SOL, ETH, maybe XRP and of course BTC.

RedKe

Hedera HBAR is my top pick but I think BTC, ETH, LINK, and SOL will still be kicking.

Sad-March-2358

Maybe CELO, XRP, TRX OR HBAR?

bizi0909

What do you mean depends on what alts you picked? This is just the rank history of HBAR. If it holds up its rank it means it's generally doing ok in regards to the market.

ArcanuMELO

My biggest bag is $DOT and I don't hold any $HBAR. Willing to admit DOT is likely dead and buried. HBAR I actually spoke with the team and I have faith they have a plan.

Mirved

Ya just like ADA, NEO, TRON, HBAR etc. And they all end up the same.

Agitated-Giraffe-600

Do you see the entire crypto market other than HBAR?

Negative-Structure51

I was screaming take profits on HBAR around .30 and everyone laughed at me lol

bizi0909

Investing in altcoins has been rough. That being said, HBAR has been holding off relatively well if you look at its Rank history. Everything felt down though. https://preview.redd.it/8nu8bjp6xeah1.png?width=1133&format=png&auto=webp&s=efbde1c49c0b649574df17c20130e8c5d0a3874d

ArcanuMELO

HBAR isn't dead.

F0rtysxity

HBAR and XRP are the new BCH. Shit coins for shit people. Not shit people. But people that think they are smart. When they are stupid. Trump and MAGA voters. There. I got around to saying it.

00roast00

HBAR definitely