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waitareyou4real

I haven’t lost any money on bitcoin. In fact instead of the last three months. If someone has held, 0 people have lost money. Keep trolling in a CC sub, or go back to StOcKs run by rich CEOs that will take every chance they get to fuck. Keep thinking like an old man on the 50s 👏

DocInABox33

Nice to see someone else using puts to lower their cost basis if bear continues. I’m also selling CC deep ITM for extra powder during this down trend.

No_Giraffe_4647

Would be stronger with BTC ETH SOL XRP CC HYPE

trillionSdollarstech

Traditional cryptos are dropping because 1. the new Fed director advocates a return to a QT while everyone was expecting a QE (Fed buying bonds to lower long term interest rates), 2. the Clarity Act is more and more likely not to pass as the crypto world wish it would, or not pass at all. 3. The finance industry is adopting massively their own blockchain network (Canton), which cooks down the dreams of Ethereum, Solana and Ripple. All of this catalyzes **the dot-com crisis of crypto** that started in October: the market is being cleaned up because the finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering (or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs) are crashing slowly. I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases, as shown by numerous pilots launched by the finance industry. It is probably time to bet on the rise of the blockchain(s) that will not disrupt the current structure of the finance industry. CC performs well because Canton brings configurable privacy and is adopted by the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, BNY... Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again that it is not a hedge against anything

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donjoe0

The new thing with stablecoins is there's a competition on for who's going to make the best settlement layer that offers faster transaction finality than Visa/Mastercard and starts getting adopted by banks and governments. Currently in the running, that I know of: \* STABLE by Tether (public mainnet live since December, token price moving nicely, not caring that BTC is dropping) \* ARC by Circle (testnet only, public mainnet to be launched this year) \* TEMPO by Stripe (testnet only, public mainnet to be launched this year). Other than that, Canton ($CC) seems to be where the attention has moved for those who still believe in the RWA narrative. I loaded a small bag but I have less hope for this sector to maintain an upward trajectory than I do for the stablecoins thing, especially with the initial hype phase that those last two are likely to have if&when listing on exchanges.

Wildwildworld123

I’m looking through his post history and can’t find information on buying btc with CC. I have some 0% apr cards and have tried buying on multiple exchanges and it won’t let me. Debit card only. Do you know how to use CC?

TheWoodChucksWood

Or he used a cc and before the statement % hit he did a balance transfer to another CC.. maybe?

Environmental_gobrrr

should make our own CC forum type thing and send traffic from sub to there imho

No_Giraffe_4647

I think you did not pay attention I am not holding SEI looking at it and think of entering mid 2027 for now I already hold BTC ETH mainly and some CC HBAR DOT LINK

No_Giraffe_4647

Ok I pick CC

No_Giraffe_4647

Almost all my cryptos in red pretty Bad around minus 20/30 percent except CC ZRO ATOM The only thing is that I am not really looking at the price right now as we are in the middle of a storm but if it does not change 10 years later I will feel a bit worried and disappointed.

Scriibb

I would assume he bought the BTC with a CC, then did a balance transfer to a different CC offering 0% interest for X months. Then after X months did the same thing, transferring the balance to a different CC offering 0% interest for X months.

watch-nerd

See the post on the homepage of CC

EZpeeeZee

CC looks good long term

No_Giraffe_4647

I am watching on ZRO CC XMR ICO

trillionSdollarstech

CC is always missing in your list

trillionSdollarstech

Look at CC (and Link)

trillionSdollarstech

Traditional cryptos are dropping because 1) the new Fed director advocates a return to a QT while everyone was expecting a QE (Fed buying bonds to lower long term interest rates). 2) the Clarity Act is more and more likely not to pass as the crypto world wish it would, or not pass at all. This catalyzes the dot-com crisis of crypto that started in October: the market cleans up. The finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering (or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs) are crashing slowly. CC performs well because Canton brings configurable privacy and is adopted by the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, BNY... I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases, as shown by numerous pilots launched by the finance industry. Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again that it is not a hedge against anything

HelpRespawnedAsDee

In case you lose your job. In case the interest rate cannot beat BTC gains. If you are lucky then you pay it off gains alone, but this is essentially like using your CC to start a business: a risky move that only works for 1/1M people who try it.

Chemfreak

I have two plays that I am long on for basically the foreseeable future, BTC and 1 other stock I don't really want to disclose. I have been trimming my position in one or the other when the other position is "overvalued" relative to the normal spread between the two. Thing is, it feels so much better holding the stock because I sell CCs on it. Like right now the spread is great and I should be dumping more into BTC but the "passive" gains of the CC are so attractive. So this literally changes a lot, I can start selling CCs on both ends, and if I ride too close to the sun and the calls end in the money, well it likely will be a good opportunity to go into the other anyway because if I'm forced to give up my shares that means the spread had to have increased in my favor. Unless of course both rocket up... And yea, I do hold leaps too so I may have to do that with IBIT, which would reduce some of the "risk" of both positions going on a crazy run.

TeslaMarque

I used to tell people years ago, get 2.1, and you’ll be set for life someday, and this was years ago. I would put those 2.1 into cold storage and start stacking another account. I still use my CC reward points and any other cash I come across and put it into BTC, as well as any unforeseen cash I come across that I won’t need. Even with gold and especially silver going parabolic, there is still storage fees and security risks with PM. I like how there is no maintenance or storage fees with BTC, that is extremely convenient (and important to me) when storing value long term.

PirateSKB

I'm going to stop procrastinating and try to do my first DCA for my LLC starting tomorrow hopefully if I get my ID. I've been trying to figure out how to do it without my license (I don't want to use my personal bank account / CC details, but I want to use my business banking or my business CCs). I lost my driver's license ID last week, and I went to get a new one but i'm still waiting, and i'm guessing with the snowstorm from last week, the mail's running late I like Coinbase, but i'm thinking of maybe doing Kraken, but I dunno yet. My personal crypto will be separate though

trillionSdollarstech

They are dropping because the new Fed director advocates a return to QT while everyone was expecting a QE (Fed buying bonds to lower long term interest rates). This catalyzes the dot-com crisis of crypto that started in October. The finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering (or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs) are crashing slowly. There is one token (CC) that performs very well because Canton brings configurable privacy and is adopted by the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, BNY... I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases. Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again that it is not a hedge against anything

No_Giraffe_4647

Depends what you mean by bottom there is always money to be made somewhere just need where to look on my end I am surfing heavily on my CC position while everything is bleeding out but I am still long on small positions in BTC XRP ETH SUI LINK ZRO and medium exposition in HBAR. The current shockwave is going to last few more days then this will be the classic Yo-yo game with charts, 2026 will be full of up and downs until the greed and fear indicator stabilizes and investors come back on crypto market with greedy behavior.

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https://preview.redd.it/xskvi3x84rgg1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e58094486ccbbdfe3c7e62a457162ad887f60c80 That is OK for me my CC baby still holding on I have been accumulating them under the radar I have 30 pct of my crypto capital invested in it so this is averaging the performance of the rest (pretty bad on everything except this) In my opinion this is the only strong use case with rapid growth recently and I guess most of alt coins are already swapping into it, fueling its price value.

trillionSdollarstech

To me it's clear that we are in the middle of the dot-com crisis of crypto. The finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering (or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs) are crashing slowly. CC performs very well because Canton brings configurable privacy and is adopted by the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, BNY... I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases. Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again and again that it is not a hedge against anything

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I'll give you the full answer on the positives you're asking for (not disregarding that there are negatives): Bitcoin has always done this. I'm actually surprised that people are still surprised by its volatility. Especially since now we're constantly talking about cycles, since it seems to do the same thing almost like clockwork. But if you're speculating short term these are the silver lining left if you want an argument that cycles will break: \-Liquidity is the strongest force in this market, and we're about to be hit with a perfect storm of global liquidity growth, M2 supply spike, quantitative easing, and more rate cuts. If you're looking for adoption, it's literally better than it was 5 years ago: \-Continuous growth of people using Bitcoin for purchase or good, growth of number of businesses that accept crypto, growth of adoption and acceptance by institutions, growth in number of ETFs, growth in sovereign funds. If you're looking for utility, now more than ever we're seeing the need for crypto: \-Banks and governments have continuously shown why we should distrust them. It has gone worse and not improved. Bitcoin and many cryptos have proven to continue to work in having secured wallets and transactoins (still hasn't been broken or hacked to this day), working authentication far better than a black marker, working database, fast and cheap compared to CC systems, borderless, and decentralization has still worked at removing the issue of trusting someone or a company.

No_Giraffe_4647

I have made my selection only 10 of them made the cut imo: BTC ETH ZRO SUI LINK AVX ICP CC XRP XMR

whisperedstate

Incredibly low chance with BTC or ETH. There's like a very slim possibility that ETH goes to 10k, and even slimmer possibility that BTC goes to 250k, and that's still not even close to 10x. So now you need to go down the list. Very unlikely any of the top 10 does a 10x (like SOL going from 60B to 600B, very unlikely). You're essentially looking for a 10B mcap to turn into 100B mcap, or 1B into 10B. The only 10B coin in the top 15 is ADA, but that is dogshit and basically 0% chance it does 10x. So the next choice is Canton CC. This is a network created by banks, and they'll be using it as a private network. But it also has a public facing side. Many won't distintuish between priate Canton and public Canton, so once toknenization gets into full swing later this year, CC is going to find itself as an new L1 with a hot narrative behind it. So that's where my money would go if you forced me to invest 300k looking to hit 3M in 2 years.

trillionSdollarstech

To me it's clear that we are in the middle of the dot-com crisis of crypto. The finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering – or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs – are crashing slowly. There is one token (CC) that performs very well because its network brings configurable privacy and is adopted by more and more companies (the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, BNY...). I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases. Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again and again that it is not a hedge against anything

dmx442

It's hilarious, Over at r/gold, r/silverbugs and r/stockmarket it's all manipulation! Just like a bad Monday here in r/CC or any shitcoin sub

trillionSdollarstech

I'm still sure we are in the middle of the dot-com crisis of crypto. The finance industry comes and picks the blockchains that they need, that match with their regulatory constraints, that they trust. Projects that were talking more than delivering – or delivering overkilled features and missing real and important needs – are crashing slowly. There is one token (CC) that performs very well because its network brings configurable privacy and is adopted by more and more companies (the DTCC, the Nasdaq, the London stock exchange, the German stock exchange, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC...). I'm sure that Ethereum will survive the crisis thanks to its properties that are the strongest among permissionless networks. It will have its use cases. Bitcoin I don't know, it proves again and again that it is an hedge against nothing

trillionSdollarstech

CC. Last week of deep undervaluation, then you can only cry

trillionSdollarstech

and another day of CC rocketing up thanks to the massive adoption by the finance industry

CoolJoeLiam

Only that it’s not an exchange I consider worthwhile to do business with. I agree that they make their CC and loans competitive, but a custodial set up requires trust and I left my frustration with Coinbase a couple years ago to exchanges that have been more reliable and reasonable for Bitcoiners.

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trillionSdollarstech

As well as CC. Coinbase and Binance spinned up validators validators on Canton yesterday, after the adoption of the network by the London stock exchange, following Nasdaq, DTCC, German stock exchange, JP Morgan's and BNY's tokenized deposits, ...

Separate-Craft-4990

You live in a tiny little bubble, don't ya? Not able to use CC means the banks are locking down, locking out people. More manipulation. Illegal and unfair. But by the time it's noticed opportunities will be gone. It's a much bigger picture than you realize. But of course, you know everything.

trillionSdollarstech

CC if you bet on an undervalued token whose network is on tracks to see real and massive adoption in 2026

Dry_Maize_7243

Just give it time. These synthetic CC etfs are poison. Wish you well but you’ll just have to learn this lesson yourself

trillionSdollarstech

CC is still a very asymmetrical bet even after it doubled. $5B market cap for the network that realizes all dreams that Ripple ($100B) always faked and never achieved

trillionSdollarstech

and CC (Canton)

PeachScary413

Buy CC_SALT, it's my latest coin and it's gonna be 🔥

Tasty-Process-7771

ma infatti, la sua tesi era che i soldi gli venivano presi ma essendoci questo "magico" numero in mezzo che lo nascondeva da eventuali controlli dal lato pratico.. come se, dico io, ci fosse una mega tabella con CC, numero carta e persona che l'agenzia delle entrate guarda ... gli ho spiegato che le cose son molto ben più complesse di così ma bho penso che a volte ci sia una regressione generale del QI per la serie ti va bene.. finché ti va bene... 🤣

Ztoxed

A healthy view for me is Crypto is Penny Stocks. Until or if CC ever becomes world dominated. Crypto is just a digital penny stock situation. Even Bitcoin is similar to some pennies that took off and did well. Pennies are risky just about the same as Crypto. Both you get pump/dumps. HODL, **FUD**, & FOMO lives in the lives of both these two models of investing. I mean Trump Coin was a huge example of what a Penny stock does.

workworkworkwork23

2019 holder here. Feels good to dip into the BTC after a bit of surprise expenses from the CC. Fucking paying CC interest rates

Wonderlustking1

CC debt.

wallyone123

The downvotes tell me I’m right. Inverse CC 🏆

Treebranch103

If we all want the value of this to skyrocket, we should all seek to exclusively transact using Bitcoins directly. I got the Coinbase Bitcoin CC recently as a start, but I’m talking rent, utilities, and receiving paychecks from our companies in BTC. Anyone have experience attempting to make that possible? Do we ask our companies for this and tell our landlords that if they want money, they need to have a bitcoin address? What about the utility companies and cities? Seems like not too far fetched of an idea to push for these things. Also, caveat, please humor me, I’m well aware this comment comes off as naive and that the IRS would hate this and things like that come with the territory- but hypothetically if there were enough people demanding it, how could it get going?

TexasBoyz-713

Least emotional r/CC investor

Hitchie_Rawtin

Shitcoin echo chamber effect, CC lost sight of what it used to be around 2020 unfortunately, now it's mostly SOL memecoin grifters or BTC & ETH maxis. Pretty sure 99% of people here have zero interest in the technologies that used to be discussed here anyway, project founders used to post and comment here regularly, they don't nowadays because it's become a cesspit of WSB cunts.

Relentlessbetz

Glad I did a balance transfer from a CC for 0% APR for 9 months a week ago to buy some sats. Im in the green for now lol

trillionSdollarstech

CC is up more than 10% today

Difficult_Can_1952

Canton (CC) has already done what Sphinx is trying to do.

trillionSdollarstech

CC climbing, probably because of the halving tomorrow

trillionSdollarstech

I believe that Canton is where there is money to make. It is clearly loved by the finance industry, used by more and more entities (B of A, DTCC, Nasdaq, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNY Mellon...) but it is so new to the plebs (us) that the price is still minuscule. I believe this is a huge opportunity. Canton burned a record of $1.04M in fees yesterday. This is considerably more than every traditional blockchain, including the leaders Solana and Ethereum (around $600k each) : https://canton.thetie.io The halving of Canton on January 12 will amplify the effect of this high usage, reducing considerably the daily supply of CC: https://www.reddit.com/r/Canton_Network/s/YrNXN7mNBk Canton ($6B market cap) does for real everything Ripple ($120B) always tried to pretend and never managed to concretize.

trillionSdollarstech

I believe that Canton is where there is money to make. It is clearly loved by the finance industry, used by more and more entities (B of A, DTCC, Nasdaq, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNY Mellon...) but it is so new to the plebs (us) that the price is still minuscule. I believe this is a huge opportunity. Canton burned a record of $1.04M in fees yesterday. This is considerably more than every traditional blockchain, including the leaders Solana and Ethereum (around $600k each) : https://canton.thetie.io The halving of Canton on January 12 will amplify the effect of this high usage, reducing considerably the daily supply of CC: https://www.reddit.com/r/Canton_Network/s/YrNXN7mNBk Canton ($6B market cap) does for real everything Ripple ($120B) always tried to pretend and never managed to concretize.

trillionSdollarstech

There is no VC paid in CC. You are misinformed. Only participants (validators and app builders) receive CC. Now, about exit liquidity, if Ripple propaganda could push XRP to $120B thanks to promises that never materialized in 10 years, why would people not push CC to $120B (×20 from now) thanks to the concrete adoption that Canton has materialized in a few months?

PirateSKB

>I have some CC too because I also want to make money Nothing's wrong with wanting to make monies my friend

trillionSdollarstech

> lol you really love your Canton don'tcha? Well I sincerely believe that this is where there is money to make because it clearly is loved by the finance industry, used more and more but so new to us plebs that the price is still minuscule. Now I believe that neutral networks like Ethereum is where the future of Finance should be, but I have some CC too because I also want to make money

trillionSdollarstech

Canton burned a record of $1.04M in fees yesterday, after burning constantly ~$900k in the previous days. This is considerably more than every traditional blockchain, including the leaders Solana and Ethereum (around $600k each) : https://canton.thetie.io The halving of Canton on January 12 will combine with this high usage to reduce considerably the daily supply of CC: https://www.reddit.com/r/Canton_Network/s/YrNXN7mNBk NFA : Canton ($6B market cap) does for real everything Ripple ($120B) always dreamt about and never managed to concretize.

trillionSdollarstech

No, you chose to see it that way because it threatens your investment in ETH or whatever. If you don't see the point of CC, then you don't see the point of the stock market either

Threemonkeys123

Centralisation has already occurred in some ways (regulations, CRAF, CGT) but if you don’t sell you don’t lose. I plan on waiting until it will fund my retirement goals (20 years+ yet) and then I’ll cash it all out and emigrate to a tax haven, while I’m at it I’ll mace all my CC’s too! Hehe

Lord-Nagafen

You are kinda stuck using OnePay with Walmart CC which a lot of people have. I’m still figuring it out but it seems to run all Walmart transactions through OnePay now that I have it

TheGDC33

It works just like a CC and allows one to spend their crypto as a Mastercard. Not sure if it is a traditional CC but it works like one and as stated worth looking up. https://x.com/ricomoneybags/status/2004420850171498585?s=46 Also I have CB One card can get up to 4% back in BTC rewards but based on OP post 🤷🏽

assembly_learner

Gemini CC having that 5% Bitcoin rewards during the dip was incredible timing and opportunity

TheGDC33

Xpxpay.com Dev just came out with a non KYC credit card with a max 10K limit. Great dude, great for the space and I watched the stream where he loaded the card in real time. Seems like a great off ram0 solution to research and see if it works for you. Also it is a Mastercard CC

West-Albatross6774

I would go (Personally) 50% Eth 25% Sol 15% LINK 5% ONDO 5% CC/Plume

Buckiller

Coinbase CC gives rewards in BTC.

99999999999999999989

Yeah the hype over this story is ridiculous and inaccurate. But if large numbers of major banks, CC companies, retailers, etc. starting adopting then the conversation would start. I don't see it occurring for real anytime soon due to volatility though.

kindaforgotit

HBAR will never take off, CC is the new thing

AprilsMostAmazing

Tried celebrating New Years the CC way, by working a shift at Wendy's. They told me to get out

trillionSdollarstech

Just buy some CC. Banks have found a blockchain that fulfills their needs and whose decentralisation is just good enough for them. Banks don't care about our dreams. It is not the type of blockchain that the crypto philosophers designed and not what the crypto bros used to shill, but if you want to make money, you have to be pragmatic and stop chasing dreams or memes.

neo-caridina

Got some LINK and CC this year. Will probably get some more if there's a hard drop in 2026.

Sin-City-Sinner

Me too, I have the track record of paying rent and all my bills for years and years, but I work for myself and I don’t have an LLC (yet) so I don’t have paychecks, no paychecks = you ain’t getting a CC period, even with 100k in the bank I use and applied through… what are ya gonna do! LLC!! Soon, and for “other” reasons as well obviously..

retroapropos

Bout 160k sats with gemini CC just from Christmas. That gemini card is dope. You buy something and then get a notification spent 50 bux in gas, recieved $2 in BTC.

trillionSdollarstech

CC this December. Still undervalued (4B market cap, the same as networks with little adoption like Avalanche, Hedera, Shiba, despite a massive adoption by banks and clearing agencies). I think 13B is a minimal target (the same as Cardano, a unused network). Probably higher

trillionSdollarstech

I would also consider some CC, institutions seem very interested in this network, it didn't have a run-up yet (and will have a halving in January)

STRYED0R

Cheers. I started my crypto journey on r /CC in 2021.Moons were a great gift. Learned alot, shared knowledge alot, and luckily, made a lot too. Never been active since those early months. Anyway, the regulatory battles are here. I really don't see a long bear (team correction) and when it goes again, it will be on top of stronger foundations. Then we get roast chicken!

Taraih

The CC did a corrupt lawsuit vs XRP, they wasted 4 years of this nonsense achieved basically nothing but a slamdunk against themselves. The dem admin refused to put in any regulation for crypto.

Putrid_Pollution3455

Yeah, I haven’t tried a balance transfer, if there’s too many steps I’m nervous the CC companies will screw me somehow. The last option is using a safe amount of margin against your other assets, but that’s a trick for when you already socked away a lot; example, you have 500k in VOO so you use margin up to 10% to toss 50k into IBIT

AmbivalentCvckfvcker

Cash deals are possible and probably the most convenient way to do it without KYC, if you're smart about picking the person who sells (and doing it in a public spot like a cafe, McD's, etc). Save that, you can buy BTC, swap to XMR, and then either hold or sell or swap to whatever coin you want (though XMR by itself is still excellent). That is not entirely anonymous because your CC will still be tied to a transaction like that. But you don't have to provide any ID when buying that way.

trillionSdollarstech

Well 2025 (and 2026) are the beginning of real world use cases, adoption. Banks, clearing agencies and funds are picking the blockchains that they trust. We see adoption news every week regarding Ethereum and sometimes Solana or Avalanche. Clearly, the finance industry does not choose Cardano. Despite the adoption news, the prices of Ethereum and the few others keep decreasing. They had their run up and I'm sure they will rise again after traffic corrects down (stocks and gold look like they are in a bubble and the investors selling crypto are probably afraid of the correction). Another promising token that you might want to consider is CC. Canton appeared out of the blue recently and is already used by several banks (even the huge clearing agencies DTCC and Euroclear) simply because it was developed discreetly by the banks themselves. CC didn't have a run up yet and has a minuscule market cap (around that of Polkadot's and 4 times lower than Cardano's), so I see potential.

PirateSKB

Pretty much every single one of those coins was a "flavor of the month" for CC lol Once hype died, most of those crashed hard

zemole464

Props to the Visa/Mastercard PR team for making people genuinely believe that. The lion's share of those fees isn't funneled into consumer protections but into excessive marketing, airport lounges, and maintaining their monopoly via suing legitimate competition into oblivion and lobbying for an even deeper regulatory moat. And even after all that, those vampires STILL operate at 53% gross margin. The fact that small businesses are state-sanctioned to raise their prices rather than be transparent and let customers know how much the CC company is skimming is a testament to that. And emphasis on small businesses, because those with the means negotiate much better rates. An option the rest of us don't have. That being said, I suppose I could reframe it to: Credit cards- full price Cash: 3.5% discount bitcoin: 6% discount Doesn't have the same ring to it, though.

WeekendQuant

I spend and replace whenever Bitcoin payment is an option and it makes sense to use it over CC

trillionSdollarstech

I'm talking about Canton, the topic is the properties of the network and lies about them. You bring the token (CC) in the discussion out of nowhere

kironet996

Sees "Sunday pump" spammed in CC daily. Checks charts: +0.45% 🤦‍♂️

trillionSdollarstech

> Lol Does it add anything to the discussion? > 'Blockchain governed by bank'. You got a clue what that even means Yes. Maybe the finance industry doesn't need a tool that is completely uncontrollable? They are businesses, not philosophers, so a consortium blockchain might be good enough, reassuring and ensures accountability. > why a coin for speculation might be issued out for retail? Well you should also ask why shares of banks and every company are available to retail on the stock market? As you know, that is a way to finance themselves. In the case of CC, it finances validators and application creators

trillionSdollarstech

CC (the token of Canton) and ETH deflate when the network is used (the fees are burned). So yes, you benefit from the growth of the network in terms of usage.

Assist_Lumpy

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VariatCA

Why else do you think such an insane majority-percentage of /CC don't own any Bitcoin? They're all chasing the 100x gains that youtube promised them in the destined alt season.

oogally

Is it? There's only a single time in 30 years of credit card usage that I can recall contesting a transaction and getting refunded. Also, it was only needed because credit cards use an insecure, pull payment system in the first place. If I added up 3% of every transaction I've made by CC in the last 30 years and was given the option to pocket that \~$20K versus save the single $150 fraudulent payment, I would take the first option every time. For me, it would be a 100x improvement.

oogally

Just relaying my personal experiences. I've made quite a few lightning payments where the fee was 0 or measured just in millisatoshis. Of course vendors and customers are welcome to continue with the 3% CC fee and chargeback risk if they'd rather not learn something new.

oogally

BOLT12 offer for refunds (part of the lightning spec.) Why would you want to claw it back? That's why final settlement of CC transactions can take months. It also introduces a fraud vector and drives up fees. It's a huge drain.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

Don’t forget these are Solana maxis and there’s a 97% they got into crypto in the past year lol. They have zero idea over CC’s historical sentiment with Ethereum or any altL1 for that matter.

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