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yoobermcruber

Your predictions have been atrocious. You posted ["When 40k"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b1ysqv/daily_discussion_february_28_2024/ksk77i4/) one year ago. You were [calling for 3k two years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/199j9wu/daily_discussion_january_18_2024/kihc4t7/) You [called for 3k again two years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/10hk9zx/daily_discussion_january_21_2023/j5azwiq/) Two years ago you posted ["Yeh I buy more when it's 3k"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/zfda4u/are_you_guys_going_balls_deep_in_bitcoin_during/izdzina/) You posted ["3k gang"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/z1kxnc/daily_discussion_november_22_2022/ixcuihx/) And another ["3k gang"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/yq9as4/daily_discussion_november_09_2022/ivq0aqo/) And you've posted 40+ other equally bad predictions in r\/CC

duma0610

Typical CC Redditor. Elementary school education.

CactusJuicemane

250 every 2 weeks until my CC balance is zero. Once im out of debt im deploying 100%

Backwards_is_Forward

I can't sell, I lost my CC PIN, but I have my seed, so I ordered a new one.

g7008

At this point dump the FA, buy BTC on a cadence you're comfortable with (I buy weekly) like it's a total market or S&P 500 mutual/index fund. Don't invest in a 401K beyond company match to diversify your risk so you can sleep at night. With all the money printing it doesn't make sense to invest in anything else unless you need weekly or monthly income from CC ETFs. BTC is going to eclipse the housing market in the US. BTC is backed by governments all over the globe. It's over, walk away from trad fi. It's all fiat programming that was pushed onto you and is going to inevitably be printed into infinity until the system comes to a screeching halt...

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MaximumStudent1839

>I'm not wrong. Yes, you are wrong. Paraphrasing, you said debit cards are more risk prone because they will wipe your checking balance out if someone holds your card. I told you it can't happen, because of 1) you can set a daily spending limit (in fact, most big banks set you a limit by default), and 2) banks often halt sudden big spends because of ' anti-fraud mechanisms, especially when it comes from a debit card. > no one is telling you you need to support Flexa It is not specifically about Flexa. It is about crypto startups rarely ever thinking hard and trying to get the incentives to create a user distribution outside of token speculation. Then, after a few years, they get no real and sustainable business adoption, and show up with a surprised Pikachu face, and cry about the space being "nihilistic", "full of speculators", blah blah blah. Flexa is just one example of many. > But clearly crypto payments are a thing because MC and Visa are getting their hands in it. Both MC and Visa already have a user distribution. They don't need "crypto" to build up their business. They got the CC business to fund the incentives to lock in their user base, e.g., cash backs, etc. These salient things you expect out of a business nearly never exist with a crypto startup roadmap. Most just wishfully think launching a token is a panacea for all problems and a substitute to making business plans.

PMmeuroneweirdtrick

Buy high sell low that's the CC way

OwlPay_Wallet_Pro

Stablecoins like USDC are basically the digital version of the US dollar, and holding it is almost the same as holding USD. Like you said, waiting can be a good strategy. You can first deposit through CC cash or bank transfer, and then maybe swap into your desired crypto at the right time. Aside from investing, USDC might become a popular payment method in the near future. That means not only businesses using it for remittances, but normal users could also spend it on things like online shopping or booking travel.

Familiar_Snow_5738

I wonder what the interchange rate is on this Meaning what did the business owner pay to process it? Because CC are usually 2.5-3%

n0bfu

Exactly, I haven’t found a good reason to use a 0% CC if I have cash on hand

n0bfu

I’m in the US and have been thinking about this recently too. 800+ credit, no debt, $250k income. I have some pretty nice 0% APR 12-18mo offers. Why not max one out? I have cash on hand to cover it now. I looking at this with a b&h mindset, not buy and sell in 12 months to cover the CC payoff.  Maybe I’m regarded but I don’t understand the math. If I max a CC with $10k on btc and it goes up in 12 months, I pay off with $10k cash later. Why wouldn’t I have avoided the CC and just spent the initial $10k cash on btc? If I max one out and btc goes down in 12 months, so what? I’d pay off the card and probably buy more. Or is the point to continuously rollover the balance on 0% transfer offers? Why wouldn’t I just take a loan out at that point?

brad1651

It's a convenient form of payment already, so if you'd be willing to offer 3%-5% off of larger ticket items I'd be game. That matches what you'd be losing to a CC transaction, so it'd be a close to even exchange for you and an incentive for me.

ImmediateShape4204

ETH/BTC with a 3% drop after making +200% in a few months, and everybody is saying sell ETH and buy BTC. Never change, CC, never change.

Golden1881881

Thanks. Got rugged hard with Yield Nodes, then took what I had left and got into AERO WETH leveraged LP in Extra Finance, went 4x when it was about .03. Slowly sold during the run all the way to $1 or so. Sold into WETH msETH LP on aerodrome, and was farming at about 8-12% for a while. Then after the tariff swings, sold when it got back to $2200-$2300. Moved it into a brokerage and held IBIT, selling CSP on ETHA and CC on IBIT, which hasn’t been called away yet. Very conservative. But about 75% of the $ is in cash, some used as collateral for selling CSP’s. So it’s not totally a 0 sum. Also caught the BMNA run this week with shares. Playing with a little fire but mostly missed the ETH run 🙃 couldn’t risk having ETH stuck for some reason in a ledger. Been writing checks now to build, but damn it would have gone a lot fuether if it was two months later

tobypassquarant

What you said only reflects the ability of crypto while it stays OUTSIDE the traditional financial system. Once it becomes integrated, as it will in the future, what you are doing now will no longer be possible. Right now, your local banks are hastily trying to close these loopholes by identifying where you spend your USD and blocking transfers to them one by one. Crypto companies that can accept CC payments pop-up quickly and close down quickly so it's a cat and mouse game; that's the benefit of decentralization - apart from being scammed ofc. Once crypto becomes integrated with the banks, it becomes easier for your banks to simply shut that pipeline off since all the money has to pass through this centralized banking system now, a limited specific list of banks that never change. My advice to you is this: If you think that the US economy will fare better than your local economy or that your local economy cannot fix its shortcomings, convert as much money as possible into USD and wait for this inevitable integration because afterward, you WILL be held a financial prisoner in your own country.

adioshoes1

How is the security? I would be worried someone hacks the CC account and steal your bitcoin? Also...can you transfer over to your cold wallet? Thanks

Elegant_Difficulty97

Today? Everything in CC and wait the following 2/3 ish months for the bull run. Then cash out everything I need to pay off my student loan, mortgages etc.

Alexchii

Can you buy using a credit card? Can you buy directly onto your own wallet? Can all of this be automated? I’d want a recurring CC buy transferred onto a wallet I own. I can do this with places like Mercuryo, but their spread is crazy.

H0ots

Figure out why you went into CC debt in the first place or you'll be posting again about having to sell the rest.

randomquestion11111

As always, inverse r/CC wins again

opensandshuts

This might fiiiiiiinally be the year for LINK. After LINK holders being crapped on by everyone in Reddit CC, despite all this false speculation that XRP is doing tradfi. I’m not doing any sort of gloating, but my God, this has been a long time coming if it all happens this year…. Link marines deserve it. 😆

Waste_Molasses_936

Depends on interest rates. CC debt is expensive- pay that shit off. Student loans, maybe. But definitely CC debt. Then invest

Moxie_Mike

How old are you and what are your long-term goals? Clearing CC debt? No brainer. No investment in the world is going to net you 30% annually. As to the car and student debt, it depends on the balances, the interest rates and the monthly payment on each. You may do better in the long run keeping those debts on the balance sheet and using the cash to invest now. It just depends on how the numbers shake out - assuming maximizing your investment long term is the goal. Alternatively, you might be better off using the cash to clear all your debt, freeing up a substantial part of your monthly nut. Take the money you would have going out every month and invest it as you see fit. All in all, I would suggest you put all the specifics into ChatGPT and have it game a few scenarios for you so you can see where the numbers shake out.

retardedredditor987

Would need the details of the loans to give you a more specific answer. Lifestyle doesn’t change - keep paying the car. Cars just suck money. Don’t get a head start on it. 2k Spend for fun 5k High interest CC debt gone? 10k Emergency fund 40k BTC - you’re in the bitcoin sub… 13k Index Fund

ConfuciusYorkZi

No, japan is too small of a market, and im not looking for the performance of MSTR. Im looking for a vehicle of volatility to sell CC's, to generate cash flow and reinvest into BTC.

Soggy-Welder2265

Join WallStreetbets use your CC or Loans follow the instructions go all in. Their only two outcomes Bankruptcy Payoff 700k Good luck 🍀 your going to need it

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YouitchyRo

Yeah you can link an existing CC to get cash back in BTC.

wallyone123

Nope CC just ded

JerryLeeDog

To support the adoption of Bitcoin and support businesses that support freedom money Paying in BTC mean huge savings for companies vs CC payments

chodeycoi

There are ETFs out there that primary hold crypto like IBIT. If ya feeling more spicy you can go into CC ETFs like YBTC and YETH that give weekly divs

CapoDiTuttiFrutti

Can you do the same for my CC debt?

LTP-N

So this is what r/CC has turned in to now.

TechHonie

Isn't it a violation of the merchant agreement to charge a premium for CC? ... People usually get around that by offering discounts with other payment methods.

noviwu97

Most people still doesn't realize that credit card charges the vendor few % and that's usually included in the price. Some of that % is reimbursed to the customer via rewards. Which means if you're in a restaurant or supermarket and pay with cash, you're giving away some of your money to the CC company and those getting rewards 

Fluid_Garden8512

For my own sanity, I don't bother visiting r/CC.

Sunnyjim333

What? you want to deny CC companies their 4% transaction fees?

sheepsgonewild

Because you miss out on the upside potential. I sold lots of CC’s in 2022 and lost a lot of money when the stocks zoomed past their strike price. Buy and hold generally wins Also buy and hold you don’t have the same tax liability as collecting call premiums

FnkyJnk

Welp. Gemini CC will have to stay in my wallet.

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twill41385

Picking the wrong stocks and it can be a problem. I got wrecked on some biopharma because I wanted the high premium due to the IV. It dropped 80% overnight on a bad clinical trial and I’m currently down 98% on it holding and praying. Learned that lesson. Don’t eff with biopharma. But otherwise it’s a pretty conservative option strategy. But all option strategies have some inherent risk. Why people who are long term investors don’t sell CC on their stocks is beyond me.

twill41385

Yes CC and weeklies. The other half of the wheel is if you let your shares get called after going ITM, you open cash secured puts on the same stock.

analyticnomad1

A second opinion? This isn't a cancer diagnosis. You used a CC to purchase BTC in 2015. (I hope you find the wallet) but the solution to this minuscule problem could have been solved 100 times by now but instead, you took the scenic route. Good luck.

FinanceOnly4U

Which CC do you use and what percent does it pay you?

Etrensce

The fact that you jump to conclusion about my emotional state after 1 post says a lot more about you than me. You said it was impossible in your original post, now you have backed down to saying that it is likely never. USD value for advertising moon remains the same, but demand for said advertising is elastic. Case in point, if crypto goes through another winter, demand for advertising on CC will tank. Props to you though for agreeing that the inverse is true, in that there is a price cap to MOON because as the cost of MOONs goes up, the number burned goes down.

Etrensce

No it's still possible as advertising spend is tied to the perceived value of the platform. Saying it is impossible is ridiculous when advertisers can deem CC not worth advertising on. What's the bottom for MOON in that scenario? Furthermore if you extrapolate your statement, MOONs have a theoretical top as well where it is no longer worthwhile for advertisers to pay that MOON cost to advertise.

s1cKn3551990

It sucks they hide the decent reward rates behind having "assets on their platform" but, I guess it's an easy way for CB to pad/promote their "growth". I'm wary of leaving that much BTC on an exchange just for a small boost in CC rewards. I'll just stick with my Gemini card, it has decent reward categories 1-4% with occasional 6-10% promotions in certain categories (the 1% category being the everything else.) Since referral codes/promotions are banned on the sub, if anyone is interested I can DM a referral code so we both get $50 if BTC once you sign up.

tonto515

I rather just use my Gemini CC and not have to pay fees to individual buys.

WrenchmanFerritin

CC hating on Solana again with a misleading title, better watch out for the pump. Keep it up CC, never miss an opportunity to be wrong.

Own_Sky9933

I have it and the card is fine. But the rewards actually suck. 4% on Gas; 3% on Restaurants 2% at Grocery Stores; 1% everything else. Unless you are a 400lb dude in their car all day. I would say that’s a pretty narrow segment of spending to get any meaningful rewards. Baseline for any CC rewards without a fee is 2%.

Own_Sky9933

Depends on how you hold the funds too. I know this is a Bitcoin sub. But if you are paying for Coinbase One and had $200k in USDC your interest is like 4.5% which is currently like .25% above what a T-Bill would payout for 1-2 months. Stack that with the CC rewards and it looks much more enticing. There are definitely some different angles to evaluate this.

126270

Remember when “chip” first rolled out like 20 years ago - Europe wouldn’t even accept credit cards with no chip - but hey guess what - even in Europe the CC fraud was out of control for online orders, telephone orders, didn’t have to use the chip for those… And here we are 20 years later - most stores I go to don’t have the chip set to required - most stores allow touchless with no signature, no ID check, a good 90% of them no cctv pointing at your face, etc So yea, there’s a lot of reasons why CC Fraud still exists If you do try going the virtual cc route - be sure to only work with cc companies who allow safety/security settings that help prevent fraud, keep the virtual card set to “off” or inactive when you’re not planning on using it, keep your $$$$$$$$$$$ as far away from the CC account as possible - sure it’s all digital and automatic if you want “easy” - but I don’t want easy - I want safe/secure - I’ll send the $$ to the card - you will NOT take the $$ from my wallet ( as example ) Do your due diligence

YetiKing16

Very risky to take on debt to buy an asset as volatile as BTC. Also I churn credit cards very heavily, and have never heard of a CC that offers 0% APR cash advances. Balances transfers for sure. But not cash advances.

BigDeezerrr

Wasn't that risky. Anyone paying attention knew Bitcoin would beat 5% interest over a 12 month period then. I took multiple 0% APR cash advance CC offers around then.

BigDeezerrr

Wasn't that risky. Anyone paying attention knew Bitcoin would beat 5% interest over a 12 month period then. I took multiple 0% APR cash advance CC offers around then.

mythrow_away527

I did the same with the maximum 401k loan I could take around the same time. I haven't dipped into CC's yet because I'd rather put that into my IBC policy and keep loaning against that for essentially zero risk.

cloudsourced285

One issue people need to know is that places like Steam can't just add crypto to support payments for alternative content. They have to completely remove all obstructive payments. The providers that are forcing these changes don't care what payment method is used, just that their payment method is offered along side of these payment methods on the same store that has this content. Ie: you can't just support crypto only for adult content. They CC processors will still complain. We need to be able to normalise crypto payments and make. It easier for the general public to process things at the point of sale, like a credit card does. Then we can remove these completely.

wallyone123

Inverse CC FTW. Lesssss CRO baybee

Kind_Paper6367

Did you make this account just to shitpost on CC daily thread?

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Pretenderinchief

When was the last time you used a PIN code with a CC purchase? Even debit cards have a visa feature now.

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Defusion55

Precisely, you can bet your money we will start to see "receive your refund in WallMartCoins for 1-3% off select purchases" or something of that sort because they should pass some of the savings off to the consumers in some form to motivate people to use stablecoins. Their stablecoin of course will work at any of their owned companies/brands and I suspect we will see collaborations where other business will also have signs like perhaps McDonalds "We accept Wallmartcoin" after all these coins are backed 1:1 for fiat. The more costumers these businesses can entrap to use stablecoins for their transactions the more they will save not having to pay intermediaries. Visa can charge a flat .10 fee and 1-3% of the transaction value on top of that that means when I swipe my CC at Circle K for a .99cent fountain drink they are losing potentially 13% of that sell to Visa. If I use a wallet that holds a stablecoin they accept there in theory could be no loss.

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healthfoodandscience

what CC is this? link?

TitleistChi

If you have the cash to pay off the CC, why not just buy the bitcoin?

onpch1

When needed, you can use your CC as a backstop while you raise cash.

sicknal

Yes, I know I have a few messages waiting LoL thanks for the reminder. I was able to do the transaction, it’s not as straightforward as some videos claim to. I had to copy the transaction to the SD then loaded into the CC verify it and then upload it back in Sparrow. Thanks for the quick response

tsa26

Anyone remember LTO among the favorites coins of CC? Tell me your losses so it is easier for me.

knaks74

This sub got me interested in XRP because they said it was garbage, profits taken, investment covered, reverse r/CC!

turribledood

What percent of CC/Debit card users understand how VISANet works?

_Piratical_

I mean you could just buy Cardano, move it to your own wallet and stake it natively while still being able to spend or use it in any way you like. But r/CC hates Cardano so I guess you should do something centralized.

Troeteldier

Do what makes you comfortable, you have a lot of time if something goes wrong. But looking at the last 10 years performance or let's say since it's inception the correct answer was 100% since it out performed literally everything. When you look at where you can put money these days to get a decent return the only answer is Bitcoin. That being said, had you needed the money in the bear market years then you would have wished you had 0% in Bitcoin, so it really all depends on how you view it and what you want to do with the money and how long you want to invest it for... Personally for me I would make sure that everything that is important is covered and that you do not have a large amount of debt, so pay off CC, cars, home if possible and then just stack away in Bitcoin, then you are diversified in my eyes. You can have some other less volatile (though Bitcoin is becoming less and less volatile these days) investment just for peace of mind. Again with all that being said you will probably look back in 5-10 years from now and wish you had just not bought anything else and put ALL OF IT into Bitcoin :P

JollyManufacturer529

I have a few hundred bucks leftover and would like to know what CC to buy, since alt reason is around the corner

doubleohd

Pay your debts, OP. You downplay the stress they'll place on you by making your life a living hell. What will happen is the CC company will place a charge-off on your credit report that will stay for 7 years. They'll sell your debt to a 3rd party collector. In most states you are still legally obligated to pay the debt unless you have bankruptcy protection.

DangerHighVoltage111

> 1. The blocksize did get increased with Segwit which introduced block weight, effectively raising the block size limit to ~4 MB in some cases (more around 2MB in normal usage, which is double the size back then). So the claim that block size never increased ("refusal to increase") is either uninformed or dishonest. > > 2. Fees are counted in cents currently, even in the current bullrun/new ATHs. Fees are constantly low on LN, fraction of 1 cent/tx (despite Bitcoin's price soaring), cheaper than on Bcash (even with Bcash's value consistently decreasing). > > 3. Bitcoin adoption is broader than ever. We can look at UTXO distribution and LN growth: the number of low-value UTXOs and small-channel Lightning nodes keeps rising. This suggests growing grassroots usage. Your "1%" claim is baseless. > > 4. Begone, back to your r/btc safe space, nobody is interested in your 2016-2017 debate that you've thoroughly lost: on chain, in the market, and on forums. 1. Yes in a very convoluted way that later enabled the bargain for JPEGs on the chain 💩 But it actually didn't increase the throughput measurably. When you look at this graph you can see 3 phases: bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactions.html#alltime - first until 2017 when the block were not full yet - second 2017 - 2023 "Segwit adoption". See how the graph just stays leveled? - third 2023 Ordinals are introduced and use tiny tx that unload the data into the taproot block, meaning they pay less fees and can put more tx into the 1MB block. 2. Fees are counted in sats and no matter the price, the richer ones will outprice the poorer ones when they want to make a transactions. Now since BTCs throughput is so limited, you need only 0.01% - 1% of the rich to completely block the other 99%. All you are saying is, that nobody currently wants to transact on BTC. If you don't count the channel open the fees on LN might be cheaper, but never when you factor in the channel management. L1 fees also bleed into LN. I have seen Phoenix wallet charging 70AUD for a single transaction. bCash fees are consistent making it reliable to transact. 3. Only if you count hodl and gamble for more dollars as adoption. Oh and of course the custodial LN adoption, but imo this is not bitcoin a p2p cash system. Because self custodial LN stats have been stale: bitcoinvisuals.com/lightning to put it nicely. 4. Thankfully the r/CC mods have lighten up a bit and don't follow your delete opposing opinions agenda any more. You need to provide evidence and facts for you points, I know this is hard when you had the c*********p on your side for so long. The debate is current now more than ever, you are just afraid to hold it.

DangerHighVoltage111

1. Yes in a very convoluted way that later enabled the bargain for JPEGs on the chain 💩 But it actually didn't increase the throughput measurably. When you look at this graph you can see 3 phases: https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactions.html#alltime - first until 2017 when the block were not full yet - second 2017 - 2023 "Segwit adoption". See how the graph just stays leveled? - third 2023 Ordinals are introduced and use tiny tx that unload the data into the taproot block, meaning they pay less fees and can put more tx into the 1MB block. 2. Fees are counted in sats and no matter the price, the richer ones will outprice the poorer ones when they want to make a transactions. Now since BTCs throughput is so limited, you need only 0.01% - 1% of the rich to completely block the other 99%. All you are saying is, that nobody currently wants to transact on BTC. If you don't count the channel open the fees on LN might be cheaper, but never when you factor in the channel management. L1 fees also bleed into LN. I have seen Phoenix wallet charging 70AUD for a single transaction. bCash fees are consistent making it reliable to transact. 3. Only if you count hodl and gamble for more dollars as adoption. Oh and of course the custodial LN adoption, but imo this is not bitcoin a p2p cash system. Because self custodial LN stats have been stale: https://bitcoinvisuals.com/lightning to put it nicely. 4. Thankfully the r/CC mods have lighten up a bit and don't follow your censorship agenda any more. You need to provide evidence and facts for you points, I know this is hard when you had the censorship on your side for so long. The debate is current now more than ever, you are just afraid to hold it.

Suspicious-Kiwi123

Idea: Add money to paypal via a CC, send PP $ to exchange

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ieatvegans

A great day for /CC and thus, the world.

Solana_Chief

If you need to buy crypto with a CC but without KYC, you should use a no-KYC platform that allows you to create your own customized credit card (you choose the name, you choose the billing address, all stealth info). For this, I'm currently using a solution recommended by Tokyniq, their website is always comparing the best no-KYC crypto cards, their suggested platform is working pretty decently here since last year. I don't know any other platform that will allow you to be so private as this, but do your own research.

maniloona

Lol, this sub doesn't hate ETH, this sub teases ETH hoping the crypto gods mistake it for hate so they can bless it with that legendary reverse CC

CapitalIncome845

The card doesn't matter, only the interest rate. Pay that shit down! Or get a 0% balance transfer. CC debt is one step above payday loans.

DivyLeo

CC companies have non-traditional collection partners (local thugs) in other countries, for run-away borrowers. These lads are very effective... Much better than US collection agencies 😁

Old_Rafa

I am waiting for the post of someone new to CC asking about ADA to have a confirmation of the upward tendency

mrjune2040

You’re absolutely not prioritising financial education if you’re lending your Bitcoin to a centralised party. See Celsius, FTX, BlockFi. Nexo has been around for a while but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t come with the exact same risks as those other lenders: ie complete loss of funds while still holding liability for the loan (ie any debt on file) should they go into liquidation. The risk of a complete loss of funds all for a few % in return and/or ability to access debt via a CC. If people are really prudent and long on BTC then self custody is the only thing that makes sense. If you’re using an centralised party it should be as a hot wallet at best.

LACRIMLACRIM

Reverse r/CC

GrittyMcGrittyface

> New research Lolol. Maria and Sanjay wrote a book report worthy of CC's attention

macxwell

Average CC poster

Podsly

Not confirmation it’s hacked just confirmation that someone at CC thinks it was hacked. They also state they don’t think they came from a CEX.

Mr--Clean--Ass-Naked

Look at the recent post on r/CC, it's official somebody got hacked it's linked to a hacker! Just 30 minutes ago

Squirrel_McNutz

Ok I’m gonna stop feeding you, troll. OP - ignore this idiot who is only here to talk shit. Never posted in /cc but all of a sudden he’s the god lol. Any airdrop farmer here will agree with what I’m saying. There are plenty here in CC and they know what I’m saying is true. The game has changed. You can give it a try but don’t expect easy fat gains, it doesn’t exist anymore. Unless you have solid amount of $$ you are getting swallowed by million of bots, Indians, Pakistanis, Indonesians, Filipinos, Africans, Arabs, etc. and especially established farming centers running huge operations with thousands of wallets. This is the truth.

DeviMon1

Yeah and u would see a lot of empty spots. Noone uses or deals with dollars in most of the world. There is no real centralized currency, euros is the closest thing and even that noone cares about outside EU. You're forced to go to exchanges or use CC💳 which just does auto conversion.

bmault

Exactly and I think I read too much into what people post here and feel guilty if I do. But we know that it could collapse at any time and you know what isn't going to collapse? My CC debt

bmault

I think I am doing the same soon. Just want to pay off some CC debt

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Chad_chadersonIII

Sell btc pay off the CC debt Then buy more bitcoin

Bruggok

don’t know what happened to all the people here on /r/CC who hated unnecessary rate lowering and excessive money supply. That is well known to lead to inflation. Ever since Trump was elected, the inflation haters here have been silent. Strange.