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MSTR or miners for leveraged play? (and how is the halving supposed to be bullish for miners??)

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MSTR in a ROTH IRA for BTC exposure

r/BitcoinSee Post

Now that bitcoin ETFs exist, any reasons to still hold Microstrategy (MSTR) in my Roth IRA?

r/BitcoinSee Post

So why didn’t the price go up today?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Saylor Talking about MSTR as a Bitcoin Derivative on Podcast

r/BitcoinSee Post

What in your opinion would be the best way to gain access/exposure to Bitcoin through a vanguard roth account?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Do we really need an ETF?

r/BitcoinSee Post

What am I missing about the Bitcoin spot ETF?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Can somebody please help me understand MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy?

r/BitcoinSee Post

How are you preparing for a probable BTC EFT approval?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Why Saylor sells his MSTR shares to buy BTC?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Will BTC approval be a stepping stone for supporting main stream commercial activity?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Michael Saylor To Sell $216M Worth Of MSTR Stocks To Buy Bitcoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy Short Squeeze

r/BitcoinSee Post

About to hit the least amount of bitcoin in exchanges this year

r/BitcoinSee Post

Is Michael Saylor power hungry?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Saylor is Buying to Save MSTR

r/BitcoinSee Post

Microstrategy has acquired an additional 14,620 btc at an average price of 42110 usd

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy Buys $615 Million Worth of Bitcoin, $50,000 Soon? for NASDAQ:MSTR by DEXWireNews

r/BitcoinSee Post

Michael Saylor is at it again! Buys an additional 14,620 Bitcoin!

r/BitcoinSee Post

No stopping Saylor from buying

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bitcoin, Microstrategy and Miners

r/BitcoinSee Post

Calling Short Squeeze on $MSTR

r/BitcoinSee Post

Why is everyone so bullish on the ETF getting approved? Thoughts on investing in Coinbase if that happens?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Diversifying

r/BitcoinSee Post

BTC proxys I can put into a Fidelity UK SIPP pension?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Michael Saylor hodls at least about 2,000,000,000 USD in Bitcoin.

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy is just more FAKE Bitcoin. Don't buy it.

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy is just more FAKE Bitcoin. Don't buy it.

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy (MSTR) has out-performed Bitcoin so far this year

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR questions

r/BitcoinSee Post

If Bitcoin spot ETF is approved, is holding microstrategy a risk?

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR Share Purchase

r/BitcoinSee Post

BTC Miner Stocks - which ones HODL the most?

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy stock as a leveraged bet on Bitcoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR invest question

r/BitcoinSee Post

1 BTC = US$1 Billion

r/BitcoinSee Post

Best premium on BTC now?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Microstrategy Strategy

r/BitcoinSee Post

Forced Bitcoin exposure

r/BitcoinSee Post

Alternative to cold storage suggestions please.

r/BitcoinSee Post

Are MSTR and GBTC best options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Are MSTR and GBTC better options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Blackrock Wants all BTC

r/BitcoinSee Post

Microstrategy buying all the bitcoin is bad, right? Only if you have a fiat mindset..

r/BitcoinSee Post

Well, It Finally Happened - I Dreamed I Was Explaining Bitcoin to Someone

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My thoughts on a Stable BTC by 2028

r/BitcoinSee Post

Cheap long dated call options for the cycle maxis

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bitcoin ETFs: The Next Big Thing in Crypto? Stocks Like PYPL, SQ, GBTC, COIN, RIOT, MARA, And MSTR Are Poised To Benefit - GRAYSCALE BITCOIN TRUST by Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (BTC) (OTC:GBTC)

r/BitcoinSee Post

Erm, what happens to the price of MSTR if a BTC ETF is approved?

r/BitcoinSee Post

If someone offers super long dated, cheap ass options on bitcoin are you obligated to clean them out?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin halving: psychology vs reality

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

MicroStrategy Affected and Lost Millions in Recent BTC Price Drop

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bitcoin Crash: Why MicroStrategy Inc. Stock Is Falling - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR) - Benzinga

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy (NASDAQ: MSTR) has a SqueezeTrigger Price of $381.17 and this AI report says it can squeeze to a $448.60 full valuation price target.

r/BitcoinSee Post

Blackrock's gameplan with Microstrategy

r/BitcoinSee Post

Curious how MSTR hodl's BTC

r/CryptoCurrenciesSee Post

[Question] Is anyone using crypto stocks like MSTR, META, COIN, etc, as a hedge against token volatility?

r/CryptoMoonShotsSee Post

Top Tokens that are backed by real-world assets are not only a safer path to crypto but also the reason for the growth of DeFi2.0.

r/BitcoinSee Post

MRST BITCOIN

r/BitcoinSee Post

Potential Short Squeeze for MicroStrategy Incorporated ($MSTR) in light of BTC price rise - Analysis

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Many Crypto stocks are up way more in the past weeks than Cryptocurrencies themselves, seems like the Wall Street has already placed their bets… This is very bullish.

r/BitcoinSee Post

What if Michael Saylor forgot Microstrategy's keys this whole time?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bitcoin to the moon 🌝

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Most people still do not understand that Micheal Saylor won‘t sell at all if its not necessary and the fact that he still does not have any actual power over Bitcoin.

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin proxies

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Blackrock buying BTC isn't that big of a deal?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

[SERIOUS] BlackRock and Big US Banks buying Crypto at Record Levels while Binance and Coinbase are being Attacked. Where as HongKong is Forcing Banks to Accept Crypto

r/BitcoinSee Post

Uh oh. Price is going up = here comes the paper bitcoin holders.

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Are Republicans or Democrats Bigger Crypto supporters?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Buttcoin and WSB user calls for shorting MicroStrategy due to price of BTC. BTC and MSTR pump immediately after post.

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Bank of America and Fidelity have been heavily investing in MicroStrategy Inc.

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy buys more and acquires a total of 140,000 bitcoin. Fidelity and BoA load up on MSTR shares in Q1. Miners acumulate bitcoin again. Bitcoin difficulty adjustment went up. A new financial communications app, Noones, has launched, Ark Invest shares monthly bullish report.

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Warren Buffet now holds bitcoin, kind of...

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR now owns 1 out of every 150 BTC which will ever exist!

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy has acquired an additional 1,045 #bitcoin for ~ $29.3M at an average price of $28,016 per bitcoin. As of 4/4/2023 @MicroStrategy holds 140,000 bitcoin acquired for ~$4.17 billion at an average price of $29,803 per bitcoin. $MSTR

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Saylor and MicroStrategy - Ultimate Bitcoin Bulls Explained

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

MicroStrategy Purchased 6,455 BTC for $150 Million at an Average Price of $23,238 per Bitcoin! Now MicroStrategy owns approximately 138,955 bitcoins and their average buy in price went from $30,415 to $29,817 per bitcoin. Will MicroStrategy be brake even soon?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Microstrategy, Inc. (MSTR) acquired approximately 6,455 bitcoins for approximately $150 million in cash

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Michael Saylor: Dollar Lost 99.88% Of Purchasing Power To Bitcoin Over Last Decade - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR)

r/BitcoinSee Post

7.5 billion people, 200 million companies globally and 192 sovereign nations will have to share between the last 2 million bitcoin left to be mined.

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

It is amazing to see how much more stable Bitcoin has become in comparison to all those tech stocks. Coinbase Stock is way more volatile than Bitcoin itself right now.

r/BitcoinSee Post

bitcoin play for next week… earnings + short squeeze on MSTR who owns +130k BTCs

r/BitcoinSee Post

I don’t understand this guy. He recruits teens and conspiracy theorists and pushes away level headed investors. If he didn’t buy so much I would think he was participating in anti- bitcoin psyops. MSTR collapse would confirm it for me. Hope I’m wrong

r/BitcoinSee Post

Assuming you’ve come to a conclusion on how much BTC or BTC-related equites you want, would you choose all BTC or a combination of something like MSTR and BTC?

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR dilution not very Bitcoin maximalist of them

r/BitcoinSee Post

Mstr as bitcoin holding?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

So MicroStrategy provided $3.980 billion of exit liquidity to sellers this last bull market?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Am I Bag Holding?

r/BitcoinSee Post

Am I Bag Holding these BTC Related Stocks?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

Postmortem FTX questions

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

A perspective on marketcap deflation

r/BitcoinSee Post

MicroStrategy execs. explain Bitcoin to the shareholders

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

There is no second best: What if MicroStrategy had bought Ether instead? BlockchainCenter shows the stats

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

What if Microstrategy had brought ETH instead? Saylor: "There is no second best"

r/BitcoinSee Post

Bitcoin or mstr as a long term investment on Bitcoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

MSTR and Bitcoin

r/BitcoinSee Post

Anybody ever done the math of buying MSTR instead of Bitcoin and if it gives you better exposure to Bitcoin’s price action?

r/CryptoMarketsSee Post

Michael Saylor’s MicroStrategy (MSTR) bought 301 Bitcoin for $6 million bringing its total BTC holding to almost 130,000 BTC. Do you think MSTR will survive this bear market or will they eventually be forced to liquidate their BTC?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Post

“Michael Burry of Crypto” is betting on a market crash with shorts on COIN, MSTR, BITO

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That surprises me given the level of institutional involvement Maybe these people will hold bitcoin & never know it? Like the bitcoin ETFs get added to a global portfolio ETF even at 2% allocation or MSTR as a bitcoin proxy in the Russel 2000 index

Mentions:#ETF#MSTR

I sold some MSTR about a month ago so I can fix my deck and I feel so much fomo. I sold at 1200 and only doubled my money. Shouldve waited til now and id be near triple

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Back to +100k$ days with my MSTR shares.

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Buy MSTR stock and see if you can handle the rollercoaster.

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I sold some MSTR so I could fix my rotting deck

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I liquidated my TSP for bitcoin years ago and have kept it in cold storage. It turned out to have been a fantastic decision that granted much more financial independence than relying on the TSP would have. Alternatively, you could get some of the same benefit by funding a rollover IRA and getting Bitcoin exposure through the ETFs/MSTR. Then again, there's nothing like the peace of mind of self custodied cold storage with no strings attached. In 10 years, would you rather have the asset that went up at an average of 12% yearly (but maybe you got a matching contribution, so double it?) Or would you rather have the asset that has gone up 45% on average. For reference: 1.12^9 = +177% over 10 years 1.45^9 = +2733% over 10 years If you're interested in winning the race, it helps to bet on the faster horse.

Mentions:#MSTR

It's the only way at the moment as we are excluded from the bitcoin ETF market. So if you want the exposure in your SIPP or ISA, all you can do is add MSTR, Grayscale Future of Finance or maybe one of the tracker funds like XBT. So yeah for the tax break and exposure it's the best you can do for now.

He did an interview and explained that he never took a paycheck from working at MicroStrategy the ENTIRE time he has worked there, and he’s worked there for Years. The deal was that he would get a stock offering, and if he doesn’t sell the stock options by a certain date he loses out on it, which is his paycheck for working therefor the last ~10 years-ish. Takes some serious balls to not take a pay check for all those years because his conviction in MSTR and his plan with BTC. He should be celebrated for that, I hate that people bash a guy for selling shares who are too lazy to read why, or do a quick google search.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

If you can’t beat him, join him! MSTR is doing some crazy stuff with leveraged assets that I’m not smart enough or have the access to capital to do, so I buy MSTR and let Saylor do his thing.

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Yep. I have an account where I arbitrage MSTR and IBIT. MSTR's volatility makes it a fairly active pair which just sort of gobbles up more BTC (equivalent) over time. So far it has worked out nicely.

I had a bag on FTX, which at the time could do no wrong. Until it all went wrong… It’s fairly straightforward holding your own keys with self custody mobile wallets like Nunchuk. And Bitcoin’s true value is in self custody. But I get that it’s not for everyone. Consider Microstrategy (MSTR) if you’re in the UK. Same boat here. Been fortunate that MSTR has outperformed Bitcoin and the ETFs.

Mentions:#FTX#MSTR

we can only show you the door, you gotta walk through it. nothing wrong were you are at. you must believe and be able to stomach the vol. you need to learn about money and economics more if you like stonks: MSTR

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I approve your thought process. I'm 75% allocated to Bitcoin now I strongly suggest adding these to your asset mix: MSTR COIN

Mentions:#MSTR#COIN

I'm looking at crypto ETF which holds Coinbase, MSTR, mining stocks, etc. Not in US, but I'm sure there are similar offerings.

Mentions:#ETF#MSTR

Genuinely curious, how many of the 931 companies that hood btc are companies whose business model does not pertain to the crypto industry? Iirc off the top of my head besides MSTR, I recall years ago MSFT was accepting btc payments, but was converting it to usd.

Mentions:#MSTR

Cramer flip flops. 1 day later it'll be "I SOLD ALL MY BITCOIN TO LOAD UP ON MSTR!!!1!!!" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Mentions:#BITCOIN#MSTR

Definitely roll to an IRA, gives you so many more options not just buying ETFs but if you wanted to learn you can do options and really leverage them without paying capital gains. I do that with my IRA and have been betting on bitcoin related businesses like MSTR which has given me crazy gains this year over and over. Best luck in your future

Mentions:#MSTR

By the time you will realize your gains. Pay taxes. Then move the money back onto an exchange to buy the scarcest asset ever. The price could skyrocket before you have a chance to get back into bitcoin and you may be left with less than you had before. MSTR is a company that will die. BTC will live for 1000s. Of years. Michael Saylor says this himself he doesn’t even want you to buy his stock.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

Time to load up on more MSTR

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I'm up 211% on Coinbase and down 2.1% on MSTR. I'm keep holding them both.

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You know ive never felt the need to buy MSTR but after seeing this i think i will buy some for the hell of it

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Funniest thing is if asked "Should I buy MSTR stock or Bitcoin?" I personally think Saylor would probably answer Bitcoin.

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Yuge BULLISH sign for MSTR.

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Saylor has committed MSTR's seed phrase to memory

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I wonder if anyone has tracked MSTR vs ibit over the last 30 day. I'd be interested to see if I can get the same % returns for no fees.

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MSTR pumps Bitcoin dumps MSTR sell shares and Buy Bitcoin pumping it.

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Sounds pretty good for MSTR though, what a paradox, MSTR value goes up while their bitcoin hodling value goes down? Maybe it's the belief that because they are releasing new bitcoin identity related products.

Mentions:#MSTR

what's MSTR custodian? NYDIG?

Mentions:#MSTR

MSTR will continue to outperform this cycle. 1. There are many entities whose charter precludes them investing in Bitcoin directly; but MSTR has an operating business and is not an ETP, so they are allowed to buy them (I think they will). 2. MSTR does not charge a fee like the ETFs do. 3. MSTR is mildly leveraged (but not so much that they are at risk if there is a big selloff). 4. Some platforms, like Vanguard, do not allow their clients to buy the Bitcoin ETFs (but they do allow them to buy MSTR). 5. MSTR owns 1% of all the Bitcoin that will ever exist and they keep buying more. 6. Michael Saylor (the former CEO of MSTR who still directs their strategy) has taken an approach of creating new shares and selling them when the stock price is overvalued relative to their Bitcoin holdings. This has worked out very well so far. 7. Maybe the dominating factor - MSTR is one of the easiest ways for tradfi to get options exposure to BTC. This has _tons_ of knock-on effects because the people selling the options have to take positions to hedge.

Odds are, if bitcoin goes up, MSTR will go up even more (history says that anyways). More hypothetical counterparty risk. Not a bad play imo

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Me personally I would want more but not all into MSTR.MSTR has leverage a income and is developing Bitcoin related software that they will take the profits from and buy Bitcoin with. While also being able to borrow billions at super low interest rates. In all likely MSTR is going to out perform bitcoin heavily. Big thing to think about is tax implications of selling to buy the stock. From a safety stand point one thing I think about is who is more likely to lose his keys or make a mistake? Me who can't remember my Netflix password or Saylor who is a high level CEO and can spend my millions on security?

Mentions:#MSTR#CEO

The loans MSTR takes are not collateralized. Most of them recently use convertible debt. If MSTR stock price goes up the lender has a option to cash in at a certain strike price under specific conditions. So no margin call risks under current loan conditions, there are other risks however. Custodians could be hacked or 6102ed. Saylor could dui his car off a cliff.

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I don't hold any MSTR but to my thinking... it may only make some sort of sense to consider allocating a portion of cash to MSTR (while still injecting the vast majority of cash into BTC itself) if those MSTR shares are in a tax wrapper account so that all gains are tax free. Could be a useful consideration for people who may want to liquidate in a few years & who are happy with the price gamble in a relatively short time period - plus the risks associated with putting cash into one centralised company. For me personally, I'll just keep sticking it into BTC & wait for the future.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

Loading up on more MSTR

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MSTR is an arbitrage trade. Stock price falls below AUM -> buy MSTR. Stock price goes above AUM -> sell MSTR, buy BTC. It's not really rocket science.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

You’re forgetting that MSTRs portfolio is not all the company is. While there is a premium, that premium comes us directly investing in their company. I would not be surprised if MSTR reaches 3500-4000 USD when bitcoin is hovering around 100k.

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If you have to put in MSTR, I’d rather do BITU. At least more predictable with comparable return as well.

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MSTR's value is based on how much bitcoin it owns. Why would you buy the stock instead of the underlying asset. The whole value proposition of bitcoin is that its not tied to the dollar based debt system, and is perfectly engineered money. When you buy stocks, you are still risking everything that is in dollars. When the dollar collapses, do you think stocks are going to do well? Bitcoin will.

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I am thinking about converting BTC to MSTR

Mentions:#BTC#MSTR

MSTR isn’t bitcoin.

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MicroStrategy currently owns 214,400 BTC, worth ~ $13 billion. Current market cap of MSTR is ~ $23 billion. That alone should tell you that now is not the best time to make your desired allocation change. Be patient and wait for a more favorable ratio. It’s not like you’re on the sidelines with most of your wealth in BTC…

Mentions:#BTC#MSTR

It’s not a great idea for the same reason Saylor explains why he don’t recommend people to invest in MSTR, there’s sole proprietors that can control the price of it by selling off huge shares and tanking the price at any time. He will promote BTC because it’s more ethical, not one person or group of people control BTC the same way that they do with shares of companies. I’m no financial advisor but if it were my money I’d stick with BTC for more ethical reasons

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

CalSTRS, *just for educators*, is twice as big and CalPERS is 3x as big. And for additional perspective, add those two together and that's 2/3's of Bitcoin's market cap. Meaning that if both of those entities wanted just **1%** exposure to Bitcoin, they would have to buy almost $8,000,000,000 in BTC or .66% of the entire circulating supply. There is literally only enough BTC in the world for about 100-200 entities to do that, Saylor/MSTR is already one of them.

Mentions:#BTC#MSTR

saylor is never selling. if he does im selling my MSTR

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I would start by putting the majority in one of the ETF funds. Then take your time to research how else you might otherwise invest in bitcoin. For example, I have stock in COIN and MSTR, both will do well as Bitcoin rises. SQ is also another that would be a good choice, and maybe Mastercard. Do you research and if you think you’d like to buy some actual bitcoin, then you can pull some of this money out and do so. But let it grow in this way until you decide you want to do otherwise.

Interesting. How would you assess that piece now? Given that Saylor and MSTR have been a constant at keeping sentiment up, and more recently, the ETFs gave BTC a kick start to its higher levels?

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

No but MSTR instead. More Bitcoin per share with time plus Stock price appreciation.

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MSTR better than 2x ETF

Mentions:#MSTR#ETF

Disagree. Anyone that wants access to Bitcoin is def attracted to MSTR and Saylor

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My MSTR has gained nearly 13% since May 1, while my Bitcoin has gained near 7%.

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They can def be compared because they move in the sane direction and if you are truly a believer in Bitcoin I can't understand why you would not invest with MSTR

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Maybe a little riskier and more so over long term I agree but the gains are better esp short term. If my bitcoin raises 3-5% my MSTR stock gains at least 10%.

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more risks with MSTR, not as solid long term as self-custodied btc

Mentions:#MSTR

Saylor doesn't buy Bitcoin with his own money. He uses his investors' money, then sells massive amounts of "MSTR" shares, and then buys houses, yachts, and jets. Bitcoin is useful to him as a tool to pump his otherwise worthless MSTR stock. Saylor is not a Bitcoin hero. http://openinsider.com/insider/Saylor-Michael-J/1079782

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In the meantime, which mutual funds have the most exposure to MSTR? My employer's retirement plan only lets me invest in mutual funds. so lame.

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Calpers and new York Employees fund increased their holding in MSTR...

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Lists like https://bitcointreasuries.net exist. Tesla bought around shares @ $290 and now it's down 39% from there. MSTR did better. So.. tracking performance varies, and is up to you.

Mentions:#MSTR

10% of the float is 10x what MSTR has. If you think attempting to purchase that many coins will only move the price 36% you’re in for a surprise.

Mentions:#MSTR

Well microstrategy is also holding bitcoin and thats how their value is also going up. I would say invest in bitcoin and buy some covered calls for MSTR with expiry in December.

Mentions:#MSTR

I’m 77 and will probably die first. I sold my Bitcoin and invested the proceeds in MSTR this was before the ETFs which is another option I opened the brokerage in my name only and I added a beneficiary Another possibility would be to leave it on Coinbase. They have instructions for heirs on their website. Either way your heirs would need to know it’s there I don’t know how this would work, but it might. I had a business and a partner once. Neither of us wanted the others heirs as a partners so we bought life insurance policies on each other; enough so that the survivor could buy the others share from the heirs Maybe creat a trust. But you need a trusted friend or professional to be the trustee At the very least I’d put the key in a safe deposit box and tell your heirs about it The best answer is just don’t die

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MSTR is an exorbitantly expensive way to get exposure to bitcoin. Think of all the facilities, all of the overhead, all of the salaries, all of the benefits a modern company pays for and then ask yourself how you benefit from any of that if all you want is exposure to bitcoin?

Mentions:#MSTR

>Greyscale is a direct purchase of bitcoin Nope. Purchasing shares not bitcoin. Did you try to trade your gbtc shares for 0.0000939 BTC or whatever? Did it work? MSTR business model is whatever. Leveraging debt to buy tokens is not their primary business model. They sell business intelligence software or something. MSTR is not a bank. Offers no accounts, cards, loans, nothing. Buying MSTR is pretend buying bitcoin at double the price per coin. Coins you can never get. Sub is not for financial advice. Good luck tho.

Mentions:#BTC#MSTR

Just buy the BTC on coinbase and buy leaps on MSTR stock whenever BTC is down 30%.

Mentions:#BTC#MSTR

Companies love fiat as they can borrow it at a low cost to fund operations and growth. And it is cheap to repay that deb over time. Crypto debt is notorious difficult without extreme risk and in a bull market is nearly impossible to pay off unless you have an asset that can outperform crypto with less risk. Even MSTR debt isn't denominated in BTC. It is denominated in and paid back with dollars. Deflationary assets make poor currencies.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

Micro strategy is essentially leveraged bitcoin. if you believe fiat is going to depreciate then borrowing fiat to buy bitcoin is a wise strategy and MSTR is doing just that so essentially by buying their stock you’re buying leveraged bitcoin. If you don’t have faith in Michael Saylor and the good he’s done for the bitcoin community and his company and would call it a dodgy company I’d say do what works best for you but so far micro strategy has blown the gains away compared to my bitcoin holdings.

Mentions:#MSTR

Nvidia has partnerships with BitDeer. I was wondering how long until Nvidia adopts and announces the MSTR Bitcoin strategy?

Mentions:#MSTR

BTC ETF's weren't with us in 2021, I wouldn't be assuming a x6 premium for MSTR. And although 2-3x BTC price is possible it's probably on the upper range of projections, and you should also assume decent downside risk in that period too. Feels like an unnecessary gamble of a trade tbh.

Mentions:#BTC#ETF#MSTR

Mstr and Tesla are both dodgy stock. I dont understand why would you buy MSTR instead of buying bitcoin? Same for coinbase. If you want exposition to bitcoin buy bitcoin.

Mentions:#MSTR

Maybe my dude was thinking about Microstrategy shares... which is also absurd as Saylor is "dumping" MSTR shares to buy more bitcoin.

Mentions:#MSTR

MSTR’s debt is low interest convertible notes so no it doesn’t need to be repaid.

Mentions:#MSTR

MSTR only has 200k BTC. They will be sucked up fast by market. Mt Gox will release ~140k BTC in the next few weeks. A good part of them will be sold. Maybe drops the price by a few % but not a big thing either.

Mentions:#MSTR#BTC

I got scammed out of MSTR stock. I sold it at $525. I got lucky. Some MSTR holders are still getting scammed. My friend bought some nvidia a few years ago too and got scammed and had to sell.

Mentions:#MSTR

That is no true. You can become massively rich if you are able to hack it and make its value drop a lot. All you need to do is to open massive short positions (leveraged with OTM options) on financial markets against the ETFs, MSTR, MARA, etc

Mentions:#MSTR

This is excellent, all the metrics that I require in one place, well done. One thing - MSTR share price included would be awesome

Mentions:#MSTR

I bought Tesla stock at $400 a share now it’s $184. SCAM!!! Enron. Tulip. No inherit value. This is a joke I don’t own Tesla stock I prefer MSTR but you get the point.

Mentions:#MSTR

Absolutely. All those shorties that are short $MSTR right now have to be tense. Then $GME starts taking an uptick. Here's to a free and fair market.

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First of all you are missing some key understandings of money. Debt denominated in Bitcoin is a recipe for disaster. See 2021 for factual examples (crypto repayment loans are difficult in both falling and rising markets). Just take a out a Bitcoin denominated mortgage at a nominal interest rate and the explain how you plan to make payments in 10, 15, or 30 years... unless you think BTC will be valued less in 30 years. Whales do not add blocks. They own, buy and sell BTC. They own the asset. They own an outsized percentage that, should world economies be dependent on BTC, where they could control, manipulate and crash the economies of nations. Saylor will sell at some point, or the next MSTR CEO. Or if he passes, his offspring. Or the same could be said of Grayscale, which until this year had BTC ocked in a trust. A BTC that was unsellable. And while the ETFs that Grayscale pushed for ultimately raised the market, it also resulted in a the trust being revoked and the BTC being sold. All of which distorted the market. A market in your view that nations and companies would have to figure how to mitigate the resulting damage. It could be any whale. Your concept of dividing BTC is also nonsensical. The division doesn't change the value. It is only a unit of measurement. A decimal place. Competition is still the biggest risk since it is finite. Anything that countries must rely on that is finite they must compete for. It is the very definition of finite resources. Again, you wouldnt be competing for talent, brain power, technology, or collective work output. But who has the biggest military to monopolize BTC production (which is diminishijg returns anyhow) or steal it from someone who already owns it. (gold historical testament to both). It is absolutely, 100% self-determination for nations to manage their own inflation, economic goals, raise capital for growth, wars, services, and balance trade. You can even see where the Euro has struggled and ultimately disenfranchised nations ability to have their own fiscal policies.

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You can add MSTR (Microstrategy) to most ISAs or buy it yourself using an online trading platform. MSTR has significant BTC holdings. Research first so that you understand what that means for you. There's a bit of an explanation here [https://blockworks.co/news/microstrategy-q3-earnings-results](https://blockworks.co/news/microstrategy-q3-earnings-results)

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I feel this is actually big. SQ isn't some tiny software company like MSTR. It's a $40B+ company.

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MSTR is NOT in the S&P500, yet.

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Saylor’s whim is the corporate mandate. He hold’s greater than 50% of the voting shares in MSTR.

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If you wanna take profits, buy some COIN, or MSTR, or the miners. Don’t sell the underlying asset IMO. Stack the underlying and never sell, and trade the BTC derivatives

Who will hold nations accountable? Saylor? Grayscale? Marathon? 99.9% of the people who own BTC on reddit (me included) are simply along for the ride. We don't drive or contro anything. Nor do we even have a common voice/vision. Who is going to hold them accountable? If one believes Saylor is JFC, what about his MSTR successor? Or offspring? Most counties that have populations fleeing are subject to war (Russia, Israel/Palestine, African nations). You are right about the US at least at the gubernatorial level. The biggest spenders (mainly California) are the ones losing people. But the US as a whole won't slow down anytime soon. China's population decline is due to decades of the one child policy now coming to roost. Neighboring Japan is dropping due to an aging population and the gravity of Tokyo draining the rest of Japan.

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I bought the dip yesterday and today I’m buying MSTR.

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Why are you picking an arbitrary period? MSTR has outperformed BTC by huge margin in recent years

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Perhaps. It does reveal the work and partnerships going on. I was impressed, and it makes MSTR seem like a good buy as it has dropped a lot in recent weeks as BTC price has dropped. The news is all fresh as it appears to have been filmed this week or today, the video said Live in the description. MicroStrategy to Host Bitcoin For Corporations Conference – Pioneering Bitcoin Adoption. MicroStrategy, the leading business intelligence and Bitcoin development company, is set to convene its MicroStrategy World conference, taking place April 29 - May 2, 2024 in Las Vegas, NV.

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I mean, chain reaction: makes sense that MSTR is lower given the leverage effects

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Fuck ETFs leverage MSTR

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