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MSTR or miners for leveraged play? (and how is the halving supposed to be bullish for miners??)
Now that bitcoin ETFs exist, any reasons to still hold Microstrategy (MSTR) in my Roth IRA?
Saylor Talking about MSTR as a Bitcoin Derivative on Podcast
What in your opinion would be the best way to gain access/exposure to Bitcoin through a vanguard roth account?
Can somebody please help me understand MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy?
How are you preparing for a probable BTC EFT approval?
Will BTC approval be a stepping stone for supporting main stream commercial activity?
Michael Saylor To Sell $216M Worth Of MSTR Stocks To Buy Bitcoin
About to hit the least amount of bitcoin in exchanges this year
Microstrategy has acquired an additional 14,620 btc at an average price of 42110 usd
MicroStrategy Buys $615 Million Worth of Bitcoin, $50,000 Soon? for NASDAQ:MSTR by DEXWireNews
Michael Saylor is at it again! Buys an additional 14,620 Bitcoin!
Bitcoin, Microstrategy and Miners
Why is everyone so bullish on the ETF getting approved? Thoughts on investing in Coinbase if that happens?
Michael Saylor hodls at least about 2,000,000,000 USD in Bitcoin.
MicroStrategy is just more FAKE Bitcoin. Don't buy it.
MicroStrategy (MSTR) has out-performed Bitcoin so far this year
If Bitcoin spot ETF is approved, is holding microstrategy a risk?
MicroStrategy stock as a leveraged bet on Bitcoin
Are MSTR and GBTC best options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?
Are MSTR and GBTC better options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?
Microstrategy buying all the bitcoin is bad, right? Only if you have a fiat mindset..
Well, It Finally Happened - I Dreamed I Was Explaining Bitcoin to Someone
Cheap long dated call options for the cycle maxis
Bitcoin ETFs: The Next Big Thing in Crypto? Stocks Like PYPL, SQ, GBTC, COIN, RIOT, MARA, And MSTR Are Poised To Benefit - GRAYSCALE BITCOIN TRUST by Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (BTC) (OTC:GBTC)
Erm, what happens to the price of MSTR if a BTC ETF is approved?
If someone offers super long dated, cheap ass options on bitcoin are you obligated to clean them out?
MicroStrategy Affected and Lost Millions in Recent BTC Price Drop
Bitcoin Crash: Why MicroStrategy Inc. Stock Is Falling - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR) - Benzinga
MicroStrategy (NASDAQ: MSTR) has a SqueezeTrigger Price of $381.17 and this AI report says it can squeeze to a $448.60 full valuation price target.
[Question] Is anyone using crypto stocks like MSTR, META, COIN, etc, as a hedge against token volatility?
Top Tokens that are backed by real-world assets are not only a safer path to crypto but also the reason for the growth of DeFi2.0.
Potential Short Squeeze for MicroStrategy Incorporated ($MSTR) in light of BTC price rise - Analysis
Many Crypto stocks are up way more in the past weeks than Cryptocurrencies themselves, seems like the Wall Street has already placed their bets… This is very bullish.
What if Michael Saylor forgot Microstrategy's keys this whole time?
Most people still do not understand that Micheal Saylor won‘t sell at all if its not necessary and the fact that he still does not have any actual power over Bitcoin.
[SERIOUS] BlackRock and Big US Banks buying Crypto at Record Levels while Binance and Coinbase are being Attacked. Where as HongKong is Forcing Banks to Accept Crypto
Uh oh. Price is going up = here comes the paper bitcoin holders.
Are Republicans or Democrats Bigger Crypto supporters?
Buttcoin and WSB user calls for shorting MicroStrategy due to price of BTC. BTC and MSTR pump immediately after post.
Bank of America and Fidelity have been heavily investing in MicroStrategy Inc.
MicroStrategy buys more and acquires a total of 140,000 bitcoin. Fidelity and BoA load up on MSTR shares in Q1. Miners acumulate bitcoin again. Bitcoin difficulty adjustment went up. A new financial communications app, Noones, has launched, Ark Invest shares monthly bullish report.
Warren Buffet now holds bitcoin, kind of...
MSTR now owns 1 out of every 150 BTC which will ever exist!
MicroStrategy has acquired an additional 1,045 #bitcoin for ~ $29.3M at an average price of $28,016 per bitcoin. As of 4/4/2023 @MicroStrategy holds 140,000 bitcoin acquired for ~$4.17 billion at an average price of $29,803 per bitcoin. $MSTR
Saylor and MicroStrategy - Ultimate Bitcoin Bulls Explained
MicroStrategy Purchased 6,455 BTC for $150 Million at an Average Price of $23,238 per Bitcoin! Now MicroStrategy owns approximately 138,955 bitcoins and their average buy in price went from $30,415 to $29,817 per bitcoin. Will MicroStrategy be brake even soon?
Microstrategy, Inc. (MSTR) acquired approximately 6,455 bitcoins for approximately $150 million in cash
Michael Saylor: Dollar Lost 99.88% Of Purchasing Power To Bitcoin Over Last Decade - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR)
7.5 billion people, 200 million companies globally and 192 sovereign nations will have to share between the last 2 million bitcoin left to be mined.
It is amazing to see how much more stable Bitcoin has become in comparison to all those tech stocks. Coinbase Stock is way more volatile than Bitcoin itself right now.
bitcoin play for next week… earnings + short squeeze on MSTR who owns +130k BTCs
I don’t understand this guy. He recruits teens and conspiracy theorists and pushes away level headed investors. If he didn’t buy so much I would think he was participating in anti- bitcoin psyops. MSTR collapse would confirm it for me. Hope I’m wrong
Assuming you’ve come to a conclusion on how much BTC or BTC-related equites you want, would you choose all BTC or a combination of something like MSTR and BTC?
So MicroStrategy provided $3.980 billion of exit liquidity to sellers this last bull market?
MicroStrategy execs. explain Bitcoin to the shareholders
There is no second best: What if MicroStrategy had bought Ether instead? BlockchainCenter shows the stats
What if Microstrategy had brought ETH instead? Saylor: "There is no second best"
Bitcoin or mstr as a long term investment on Bitcoin
Anybody ever done the math of buying MSTR instead of Bitcoin and if it gives you better exposure to Bitcoin’s price action?
Michael Saylor’s MicroStrategy (MSTR) bought 301 Bitcoin for $6 million bringing its total BTC holding to almost 130,000 BTC. Do you think MSTR will survive this bear market or will they eventually be forced to liquidate their BTC?
“Michael Burry of Crypto” is betting on a market crash with shorts on COIN, MSTR, BITO
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Let's see how MSTR starts off this week. We might see another >$1B purchase. Tracker screenshotted is from here [https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/treasuries/strategy-inc](https://newhedge.io/bitcoin/treasuries/strategy-inc)
Imho is better then MSTR because eth can be staked to generate more eth, so this increase eth/share. The problem is that they just got approved a 50 BILLION share issues (aka, endless diluition) and just spent 200 million on a mr beast investment. This make it feel like a scam
Could you argue that MSTR buying up 1 million BTC by EOY is bad for BTC long term?
I’m sure that’s what the banks would love for everyone to do is sell but fuck these banks they’re not gonna control shit and we need something to say fuck off to the banks because they are corrupt as fuck so bitcoin it is for me as well as MSTR
I'm scared to lose my keys and I get scared and want to sell sometimes on weekends, with MSTR I can't, and I own stock in the company means I own part of their assets
> MSTR Why not just buy BTC directly?
Do you own any BTC or just MSTR? If it's the latter, jeez.
I... I'm scared guys. I became a bitcoiner via MSTR... really loved the whole narrative. Being your own bank, having a form of hard money that no state can print. But wow, is the diamondshanding hard. WGMI... but I come here for some strength to HODL through this! Thank you all for being such strong and supportive people!
If below $75k is where MSTR blows up then that is where the market will be forced to go. Prices move to where they can trade. Liquidity gaps will one day drive prices there.
Every successful traders has their way of doing things. My strategy is leaning toward having "controversial" opinion. When something seems incredibly bullish, I sat down and think whether there's a reason to be bearish. Just like when Trump launched memecoin, everybody said it's going to be hyper memecoin season. But I thought what could be better than the US President launching memecoin? So I sold most of my SOL above $250 and most of my Fartcoin above $2. Then on September 2025 everybody was bullish. But any serious traders would have tracked MSTR and BMNR mNav and it's been down only. So I sold most of my BTC above $110k and shorted ETH because I no longer hold ETH. And it's indeed has been going down since then.
Saylor will soon own 700k Bitcoin in about 12 hours time. By the end of 2026 MSTR will be sitting on 1 million BTC all to themselves
Yep. Quit my job this month, funded by bitcoin gains and I imagine it will turn into retirement. All in MSTR on brokerages and btc cold storage
Same goes to you. The biggest institution,.MSTR hold more than half a million of bitcoins. If thats not an institution idk what is.
That’s why I’m having second doubts and buying Gold. Bitty moves with the market now. Just another stock. And is MSTR keeps buying them then where is the value?
I bet this most recent buy is bigger based on MSTR common volume and STRC par value volume.
Yes, but I have my portfolio broken down into 75% STRC and the rest in MSTR and BMNR (About 15% MSTR and 10% BMNR). So fully exposed to BTC and ETH through DATs
haha I like reading stuff like this it gives me hope…. you must have got into MSTR at a better time than I did lol. I have done very well on BTC, not so well on my MSTR
I used to have a good amount of IBIT in my Roth IRA. But I saw MSTR going down to very cheap prices so I decided to sell my 20-30k IBIT holdings. Maybe I should’ve kept some, because my Roth is now super volatile. MSTR is down from all time highs, my Roth an Ira value went from 100k to 40k. Yikes. But im in it for the long term, and my other accounts are so high that im willing to stomach the volatility.
MSTR,BITX and MSTY (some btc too)
I've been 100% Bitcoin before, but now I'm roughly 50% Bitcoin, 15% gold, 10% MSTR, and 25% STRD. I use the gold and preferred shares as safety / income as I wait for Bitcoin to mature as a store of value.
Yeap. Sold TSLA and MSTR and 2 small apartments and put everything in BTC. No more hassle, tenants etc. I still have my flat and another one for which i pay monthly mortgage. I tried sell the second one but found tenants faster so i kept it.
My allocation is BTC in cold storage. IBIT in 401k through self directed brokerage link/ a bit of VSTSX. Roth IRA and HSA all in MSTR. Normal brokerage account all in MSTR. Most of my networth is my cold storage BTC and IBIT 401k holdings. So im pretty much all in BTC.
You seem to be pretty in touch with MSTR. How would you know that the common stock was diluted to buy more BTC? When MSTR hit 190 and immediately dropped below 180, wasn't that Saylor diluting stock to load up cash to buy more BTC?
I store my bitcoin in a cold wallet, that I do not touch. However, I have been noticing that the volatility of bitcoin makes it an interesting asset to swing trade. With that said, I was looking at some high beta stocks like the miners, but I was also wondering about MSTR. I know MSTR is beaten down right now, but it doesn't seem to be trading at a high premium compared to NAV, and they are holding more bitcoin (over 60 billion), than what the company is worth right now (45 billion). I haven't been on this sub too long, but it seems like a majority of people here hate MSTR. To be quite frank, I am not a fan of Saylor either, but am I missing something here? Was hoping to get more input from some of the folks here who have a good understanding of MSTR before doing anything stupid. Thank you.
Better ask in r/MSTR Not a bitcoin question.
That is not the way. You got to take a loan enough to buy 1 or 2 year call options of IBIT or MSTR type instruments. You would have the same stock upside exposure for 30% of the stock price and you would have limited exposure to the downside if the asset tanks. Another way is taking loans and selling constant atm cash secured puts with OTM puts for security every week. Your earnings will cover the loan payments and anything left after you close the loan is your profit for the year. Both are different approaches but will serve your purpose with a more structured way.
MSTR, or STRC/STRF, depending on your risk appetite at this time.
Bitmine allocating $200M to MrBeast 💀😆 MSTR looks like a very sane business in comparison.
Bitcoin is eggs and they say: don’t keep all your eggs in the same basket.. so better have BTC in different places like private wallet, MSTR, ETF. Warren Buffet said something like Diversification is for ignorant. If you know about the best asset is the world, why would you want to diversify ?
I bought MSTR at $450 this summer
Semi related I bought into MSTR when it was about 350… sucked.
We are so back! (only 80k down on MSTR options)
For Trad Fi retirees or those near ur, the bear alternative aside from IBIT in their portfolio would probably be STRC as a TBill alternative. Currently paying 10% annual or just north of. Backed by the full faith and credit of the BTC Blockchain and the fact that Strategy owns such a large percentage of it. They have enough collateral for several hundred years of dividends, and as long as governments keep printing (they will) they will always be able to borrow to pay the dividends or buy more BTC to drive up price and equity. STRC will float between 98-100.05 most days. When it is over $100, they sell more and buy BTC. When it is under 100, they have the cash to do a buyback(when mNAV is less than 1) of MSTR or they can increase the dividend. Works like this: Sell 1000 STRC for 100, 000. Buy 1 BTC. Have a few thousand to spare. At 10%, the annual dividend is $10. Monthly dividend is thus 0.83. So pay $830 in dividends. $3000 or so leftover can cover several months more dividends. You are going to sell even more STRC in the process. With T Bills, you buy a $100 share and are then paid a rate (lower) than STRC. They will just print the money to pay the TBill holders. With STRC, you buy $100 share. BTC will go up infinitely because the counter Asset, USD, will be increased ad infinitum
Check $MSTR P/E ratio it was 7 last time I checked. The SP500 average is 20-25 so its way behind the average, I really like checking Strategy's fundamentals because it gives me good analysis for bitcoin, the TA and charts mean absolutely nothing.
Depends on your desire. I like Bitcoin-related strategies that support the ecosystem, so would further break it down by the following subcategories: Short-term life spending = Cash / USD stablecoin Long-term savings = Bitcoin / IBIT. Get actual BTC if you have self-sovereignty interests. Income = STRC or SATA or some Bitcoin-related preferred equity with dividends Investment = MSTR or other Bitcoin treasury companies
I know this is a bitcoin sub, but people here seem to be pretty knowledgable about MSTR as well. So with that said, I don't understand how MSTR can open the first 30 minutes of trading today and hit 190 when bitcoin is at 95.6k, but then drop all day below 180 when bitcoin has done nothing but gone up from the 95.6k levels. Isn't MSTR suppose to be a proxy play on bitcoin?
Strategy's upside is huge right now imo. Low mNAV, just as their financial products are heating up. I don't think most understand what a tailwind Strategy and Bitcoin are going to have when Strategy's credit rating tips into investment grade. Huge pools of capital will be unlocked that will flow straight into Bitcoin held by Strategy. The preferred shares will benefit dramatically as well, which in turn lowers the borrow costs for Strategy as they print STRC et al. Saylor is pushing all the right buttons to make it happen, the USD reserve was a stroke of genius. I've been buying MSTR and STRD hand over fist lately.
Also a bitcoiner. Saylor's point was the stock market is speculative. And that its not the companies' fault that bought bitcoin and then after had their stock devalued. Overall if you believe in the bitcoin narrative you believe EVERYONE, companies included, should be buying it. Saylor has never recommended buying a particular stock (even MSTR) over bitcoin. Danny's Anti bitcoin treasury company perspective comes from the fact that in the short term their stock reduced. That's not bitcoins fault thats the market and market perceptions, sentiment, and juju's fault. In the end, Saylor's perspective is Bitcoin is still the best store of value over the long term so any person and company should be adding it to their balance sheet. Meanwhile Danny has been actively against companies adding it to their balance sheet to "save their company." As a popular podcaster Danny has considerable sway and needed to be put in his place that he's more vocal about companies that have added bitcoin compared to those that haven't, and arguably that is anti-bitcoin. Just cause Salyor comes off as brash at times doesn't mean he's wrong.
But MSTR helped Bitcoin because we all hodl. I’m a maximalist and I wouldn’t buy MSTR but I’m happy that a Saylor+Strategy exist.
MSTR down 50% from a year ago btw
We're seeing strong institutional signals in crypto related equities right now. MSTR, COIN, HUT, CIFR are all showing significant options activity and positioning that suggests smart money is building exposure ahead of what they expect to be a sustained move higher. The Prospero signals lighting up on these stocks means institutional players are positioning for upside over quarters, not days. Just size appropriately with this stuff cause its all volatile as hell.
Paper hands has sold because of “end of the cycle, now bear market”. But MSTR and diamonds hands are still buying.
If you want to see God candle, look at MSTR now. I am still massively down on that particular investment but whatever.
I'm a Bitcoiner and I agree with Danny. Treasury companies offer nothing but additional risk and trust, and are not very attractive to shareholders at this point. Bitcoin is the better option, and if you must have a treasury company in your portfolio, why the hell would you go with some random shit company when you can get similar value with MSTR? Danny's question was entirely relevant, and Saylor's answer was not only irrelevant, but completely rude and ridiculous. He's a total dirtbag IMO.
The big bank brokerage services kinda blow. I like wealthsimple. They have tfsa, rrsp, chequing accounts, and a crypto account. You can buy both IBIT and MSTR there inside of a tfsa and rrsp.
To see MSTR finally going up makes me cum and crap my pants at the same time. I'm so happy. About fucking time.
If you have tfsa room available and want to use that you can buy ibit (the black rock spot bitcoin etf) or MSTR (microstrategy, it's a riskier play but act like a leveraged bitcoin play.) I've personally decided with MSTR for my rrsp and tfsa.
Saylor is positioning Bitcoin (and MSTR) as an investment.
MSTR's Bitcoin holdings are up over $3 Billion just since yesterday's 91k closing price lol. BMNR gained around $800 Million.
We're quickly approaching a big shift back to a recapture of momentum. We are on our 7th week of steady-yet-choppy recovery from the November 20th lows, after a large drop primarily attributed to market uncertainties and an unprecedented leverage wipe that drained a huge chunk of liquidity. While markets were bracing for pain and uncertainty, and ETFs/Retail were shedding their risk, institutional adoption/integration and public crypto exposure was still growing. Banks and Investment Funds are green-lighting Crypto/BTC products and allowing recommendations of portfolio allocations. Treasury companies like BMNR and MSTR are still soaking up huge respective quantities of ETH/BTC. And all the while, prices consolidated throughout late November towards the New Year. Coming soon on the horizon, we also have legal regulatory clarification with the Crypto Market Structure Bill/Clarity Act. With a defined legal framework in place, this will entice innumerous businesses/institutions/investors to involve themselves with Crypto where they otherwise might have deemed too risky, unsecured or legally undefined. ...And all of this while monetary conditions are loosening, M2 is growing, the S&P is at new highs, and the Nasdaq has been steadily making one "higher low" after another since late-October on the way to its own breakout. When momentum *does* shift, investors are going to realize how lucrative & appealing assets like BTC/ETH are while they're so unreasonably below their own highs on the eve of the next leg-up of expansive adoption and real-world integration.
Even my MSTR shares go up. Right now they are just 42% down. We are so back!
This is such FUD. Do you know how little levered MSTR is? Do you know how long and profound a BTC drawdown would have to be for MSTR to be in any sort of danger? Do you understand there aren't 'margin calls' for MSTR that would require forced selling?
Barring hack, only two sell scenarios make corporate sense, if MSTR will ever sell: either OTC or slow roll in both cases specifically to try not to affect the price
Nah, most of the money comes from straight up issuing MSTR stock at the market. A smaller percentage comes from issues the STR* products, mainly STRC. He isn’t using BTC as collateral It’s in their 8-K they file every time they do this https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltf8d808d9b8cebd37/blta7da64f7ebf6312a/69645ea3818dc30008b31ebb/form-8-k_01-12-2026.pdf
Potential for what? None of them are interested in being like MSTR.
1. How is millions of dollars a day in buy pressure 'not helping BTC'? 2. The prefs dividend are tiny, miniscule in comparison to what is being raised. He literally raised 2.2 billion dollars in about 3 trading days two weeks ago via MSTR Sales to have a fiat reserve to pay dividends in case of extended BTC drawdown. Literally, nothing at all. Nothing.
The offering was ~6% of last week’s trading volume for MSTR Which adds up, because the stock went no where after the MSCI news Adding 6% of extra *pure* selling will make sure your stock won’t move anywhere
Halving cycle is disrupted as liquidity and other influences take a stronger seat at the table such as interest rate cuts, tariffs, and geo political events. Supply argument is not as important as investors can easily go to etf’s, stablecoins and alternative exposure vehicles such as MSTR, etc
I aped into MSTU after making really good gains on MSTR in 2024 and am back to my portfolio of 2023. Sigh
MSTR currently has a debt-adjusted mNAV near 1 (it was around 3 just months ago). So you basically don’t pay more for your BTC by buying MSTR instead of BTC right now. I don’t know if you have ever bought BTC on a crypto exchange, but between fees and exchange rates, it gets expensive.
100? Sorry most of those are scams. There are less than a handful of DATs that are worth a second look. The play was to extract from bitcoiners during the hype, the mNAVs were inflated and insiders cashed out big. You can tell these targeted retail because they all hired influencers to push them. Now they are folding, bleeding, and selling their coins. SQNS is a good example, NAKA, etc. MSTR is obviously in a league of its own, but I look forward to these things dying off and being replaced with companies with actual business models forming bitcoin treasuries. Steak N Shake, Block, or even Tesla to name a few.
There are a lot of funds that can only be utilized in certain ways. Investing in MSTR provides exposure without needing to alter how the money is structured.
The perpetual preferred shares are a genius way to facilitate more BTC purchases and over time will fund more of the new BTC purchases than ATM issuance. That's why I've been buying MSTR heavily over the past two months. I don't believe the broader market knows how to discount this because MSTR and Saylor are the first to do it.
I don't think a BTC ETF is stupid at all. But buying MSTR definitely is.
2% common share dilution (MSTR issuance) And $13m/year extra dividend payments owed (STRC issuance)
grifter has got to grift. Why buy MSTR why not just buy BTC?
tldr; MSTR stock is at a critical support level of $157, facing potential downside as Bitcoin prices retreat. Strategy, formerly MicroStrategy, recently purchased 13,627 BTC for $1.25 billion, increasing its holdings to 687,410 BTC valued at $62.5 billion. However, the company has diluted shares significantly to fund Bitcoin purchases, raising risks for investors. Technical indicators suggest bearish momentum, with the stock down 65% from its July 2024 peak and short interest rising to 10.23%. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
As an MSTR holder you should be rejoicing. If Saylor gets to 1 million BTC it will be massive
You're right, I'll add that part Most contracts (as in almost 100%) in the U.S. require payment in USD. If USD is suddenly worthless, companies have no incentive to provide goods or services if they're stuck being paid in fiat. If you think the people who have invested in crypto will be able to prevent the following 50% drop in GDP, you're probably an MSTR investor.
Big purchase. As an owner of Bitcoin I rejoice that at least someone is buying. The unflinching faith of Saylor helps me as my own faith recently lacks conviction. As a shareholder of MSTR I hate the fact that the value of my shares is going to decrease... again. That purchase takes his average to 75,3k.
MSTR is up 240% in the last 5 years...
MSTR openly accumulates bitcoin while Saylor panics privately
M. Saylor is the ultimate exit liquidity. MSTR will buy up any BC you have
My timeline for BTC and MSTR has always been no earlier than 2033 for any potential “profit taking” but also by then I figured the baking and yield infrastructure for BTC will be baked out and I won’t ever need to actually sell. BUT my plan for MSTR has always been to sell so I don’t have to touch my Cold Storage.
Bernstein’s call basically leans on the same structural narrative this cycle: spot supply is tight, large balance-sheet players are willing to sit through volatility, and Bitcoin continues to be treated as a high-beta “store of value” instrument by institutions. MicroStrategy adding more BTC fits its longstanding playbook of using equity and debt as funding channels to lever into Bitcoin, but that also means shareholders are taking on concentrated exposure to a single macro asset and one management team. If BTC underperforms or grinds sideways for a long period, MSTR’s equity can suffer disproportionately because of leverage, dilution risk, and sentiment around management’s capital allocation. From a portfolio construction angle, the key distinction is between holding BTC directly versus using an equity proxy like MSTR, which layers corporate-governance, funding-cost, and index-inclusion dynamics on top of the underlying asset. Research from HBZBZL has highlighted how corporate treasuries with BTC positions tend to behave through drawdowns and liquidity shocks, emphasizing these moves as long-duration strategic bets rather than tactical trades; their methodology and framework are briefly outlined on [https://www.hbzbzl.net/](https://www.hbzbzl.net/). This comment is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, or trading advice. Always do your own research and consider your own risk tolerance before making any decisions.
I agree; I think it holds up better during declines and gains more value during BTC rallies compared to leaders like MSTR.
Don't use the word Ponzi if you don't know what it means. These companies aren't fooling any investors. Investors are fooling themselves. No idea about the others, but MSTR is definitely transparent. They publish complete information about every Bitcoin purchase, every loan and all the preferred shares. Please read that information. Be informed
They can’t hedge though. I included the example of hedging with MSTR vs IBIT, which is the next most liquid. You need magnitudes larger times the number of contracts for the same trade size and IBIT simply can’t support that
Mostly yes. MSTR is the highest quality DAT. Is it objectively a high quality asset? No sure. But quantity of other DATa drops exponentially
One of the things that made MSTR attractive to buyers was that a lot of institutions or funds could not own crypto, so MSTR was their way to get exposure. Additionally, there’s a big chunk of the population that will never transact with it, but wanted to own it. Enter MSTR, which they could buy on their brokerage MSTR is still semi valuable because of how liquid its option chain is. It’s usually in the top 5 or 10 every day in terms of contracts traded. Large hedge funds or institutions can’t hedge with other things like IBIT because the liquidity and contract sizing isn’t there. As an example, on Tuesday I saw a single trade sell $55M calls in MSTR for February. That same trade on IBIT, which is the most liquid ETF, at the same delta would be around 200,000 contracts. That’s 15-20 times the total open interest right now. And that was a single trade of ~20,000 contracts out of the millions that get traded on MSTR. So MSTR ends up being the instrument used to hedge Bitcoin positioning All this to say, I kind of understand why MSTR got popular, why it’s still semi-popular, and why it gets crushed especially hard during downturns or goes up faster during sustained bull runs, because it’s *the* hedging mechanism From the operations perspective, shares below NAV is dumb. But if you’re only issuing above, and buying back below, then you’re basically telegraphing that your ceiling will be the NAV. And at that point you might as well buy a spot ETF I wouldn’t buy a BTC DAT, or any DAT, but think MSTR is a special case because of its liquidity and why it actually gets used. So I actually expect that to have a NAV above 1 naturally during bull markets, just like it gets its face ripped off during bear markets So it’s a Ponzi that has an actual goal that has nothing to do with itself lol
tldr; Bernstein analyst Gautam Chhugani predicts Bitcoin could rise to $150,000 by 2026, with a peak target of $200,000 in 2027, despite a weak 2025 finish. Strategy Inc (MSTR) has increased its Bitcoin holdings to 673,783, valued at $50.55 billion, through recent purchases totaling 1,286 Bitcoin. The company funded these acquisitions via its stock offering program and continues to use Bitcoin as its primary treasury reserve asset. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Bitcoin in Strike, Bitcoin in wallet, Gemini Bitcoin rewaeds credit cars, IBIT, FBTC, MSTR.
Institutions don’t want it as a hedge. You think they don’t see the volatility in it. You think they haven’t seen at least two governments get slammed because they went all crypto. How’s MSTR doing. Gotta have a low buy in. I wonder how long it is until they make a profit again. There’s some that would say institutions don’t want a hedge. They want to control the digital realm. That they don’t want a physical backing anymore. Like gold silver and cash. That way they control retail. If you don’t have physical value and they shut off your digital value. What do you do next?
Throw in a cup of MSTR, STRC
The difference between BTC and MSTR is that Strategy can dilute the piss out of their stock to buy more Bitcoin, which increases the value of their stash while diminishing the value of their shareholders. As long as he's buying while the price of BTC is flat, their share price will continue to fall as he uses their shares/STRC as an A.T.M. for funds to keep buying, unless a wave of speculation suddenly rushes in to Strategy.
I’m totally diversified: BTC, MSTR, MSTY and STRC. Let’s fucking go!
And on top of that MSTR getting disproportionately nuked for no reason. Couple of weeks ago I tried to average down by buying some at 170 USD. Today it's at 155 dollars. This always happens when you think you bought the dip. I guess MSTR has no bottom too. Getting whacked from all angles.
Are BTC and MSTR starting to be driven by "chances the Fed cuts rates"? The jobs report today apparently don't suggest cuts, and SCOTUS didn't rule on tariffs today. Checking tickers time of post, we have a crab and a plummet.
MSTR volatility is higher in both directions.
**tl;dr:** * Strategy (MSTR) shares rose 6% in after-hours trading after MSCI's decision on digital asset treasury companies. * MSCI stated that distinguishing between investment companies and those holding digital assets requires further research. * The current index treatment for companies with digital assets making up 50% or more of their total assets will remain unchanged.
I'd never leverage myself in a way that could create a margin call on my BTC stack. Doing so could set me back a decade. What I have done is get leveraged using secured loans (401K/Home Equity) that can't be called. This of course requires the cash flow to service the loan. Another idea would be to pickup some MSTR shares, and let Saylor & his team manage their debts and grow BTC per share.
MSTR is down -55% over the past year. It’s literally collapsing as we speak