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MSTR or miners for leveraged play? (and how is the halving supposed to be bullish for miners??)
Now that bitcoin ETFs exist, any reasons to still hold Microstrategy (MSTR) in my Roth IRA?
Saylor Talking about MSTR as a Bitcoin Derivative on Podcast
What in your opinion would be the best way to gain access/exposure to Bitcoin through a vanguard roth account?
Can somebody please help me understand MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy?
How are you preparing for a probable BTC EFT approval?
Will BTC approval be a stepping stone for supporting main stream commercial activity?
Michael Saylor To Sell $216M Worth Of MSTR Stocks To Buy Bitcoin
About to hit the least amount of bitcoin in exchanges this year
Microstrategy has acquired an additional 14,620 btc at an average price of 42110 usd
MicroStrategy Buys $615 Million Worth of Bitcoin, $50,000 Soon? for NASDAQ:MSTR by DEXWireNews
Michael Saylor is at it again! Buys an additional 14,620 Bitcoin!
Bitcoin, Microstrategy and Miners
Why is everyone so bullish on the ETF getting approved? Thoughts on investing in Coinbase if that happens?
Michael Saylor hodls at least about 2,000,000,000 USD in Bitcoin.
MicroStrategy is just more FAKE Bitcoin. Don't buy it.
MicroStrategy (MSTR) has out-performed Bitcoin so far this year
If Bitcoin spot ETF is approved, is holding microstrategy a risk?
MicroStrategy stock as a leveraged bet on Bitcoin
Are MSTR and GBTC best options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?
Are MSTR and GBTC better options for Roth IRA now before spot etf is available?
Microstrategy buying all the bitcoin is bad, right? Only if you have a fiat mindset..
Well, It Finally Happened - I Dreamed I Was Explaining Bitcoin to Someone
Cheap long dated call options for the cycle maxis
Bitcoin ETFs: The Next Big Thing in Crypto? Stocks Like PYPL, SQ, GBTC, COIN, RIOT, MARA, And MSTR Are Poised To Benefit - GRAYSCALE BITCOIN TRUST by Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (BTC) (OTC:GBTC)
Erm, what happens to the price of MSTR if a BTC ETF is approved?
If someone offers super long dated, cheap ass options on bitcoin are you obligated to clean them out?
MicroStrategy Affected and Lost Millions in Recent BTC Price Drop
Bitcoin Crash: Why MicroStrategy Inc. Stock Is Falling - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR) - Benzinga
MicroStrategy (NASDAQ: MSTR) has a SqueezeTrigger Price of $381.17 and this AI report says it can squeeze to a $448.60 full valuation price target.
[Question] Is anyone using crypto stocks like MSTR, META, COIN, etc, as a hedge against token volatility?
Top Tokens that are backed by real-world assets are not only a safer path to crypto but also the reason for the growth of DeFi2.0.
Potential Short Squeeze for MicroStrategy Incorporated ($MSTR) in light of BTC price rise - Analysis
Many Crypto stocks are up way more in the past weeks than Cryptocurrencies themselves, seems like the Wall Street has already placed their bets… This is very bullish.
What if Michael Saylor forgot Microstrategy's keys this whole time?
Most people still do not understand that Micheal Saylor won‘t sell at all if its not necessary and the fact that he still does not have any actual power over Bitcoin.
[SERIOUS] BlackRock and Big US Banks buying Crypto at Record Levels while Binance and Coinbase are being Attacked. Where as HongKong is Forcing Banks to Accept Crypto
Uh oh. Price is going up = here comes the paper bitcoin holders.
Are Republicans or Democrats Bigger Crypto supporters?
Buttcoin and WSB user calls for shorting MicroStrategy due to price of BTC. BTC and MSTR pump immediately after post.
Bank of America and Fidelity have been heavily investing in MicroStrategy Inc.
MicroStrategy buys more and acquires a total of 140,000 bitcoin. Fidelity and BoA load up on MSTR shares in Q1. Miners acumulate bitcoin again. Bitcoin difficulty adjustment went up. A new financial communications app, Noones, has launched, Ark Invest shares monthly bullish report.
Warren Buffet now holds bitcoin, kind of...
MSTR now owns 1 out of every 150 BTC which will ever exist!
MicroStrategy has acquired an additional 1,045 #bitcoin for ~ $29.3M at an average price of $28,016 per bitcoin. As of 4/4/2023 @MicroStrategy holds 140,000 bitcoin acquired for ~$4.17 billion at an average price of $29,803 per bitcoin. $MSTR
Saylor and MicroStrategy - Ultimate Bitcoin Bulls Explained
MicroStrategy Purchased 6,455 BTC for $150 Million at an Average Price of $23,238 per Bitcoin! Now MicroStrategy owns approximately 138,955 bitcoins and their average buy in price went from $30,415 to $29,817 per bitcoin. Will MicroStrategy be brake even soon?
Microstrategy, Inc. (MSTR) acquired approximately 6,455 bitcoins for approximately $150 million in cash
Michael Saylor: Dollar Lost 99.88% Of Purchasing Power To Bitcoin Over Last Decade - MicroStrategy (NASDAQ:MSTR)
7.5 billion people, 200 million companies globally and 192 sovereign nations will have to share between the last 2 million bitcoin left to be mined.
It is amazing to see how much more stable Bitcoin has become in comparison to all those tech stocks. Coinbase Stock is way more volatile than Bitcoin itself right now.
bitcoin play for next week… earnings + short squeeze on MSTR who owns +130k BTCs
I don’t understand this guy. He recruits teens and conspiracy theorists and pushes away level headed investors. If he didn’t buy so much I would think he was participating in anti- bitcoin psyops. MSTR collapse would confirm it for me. Hope I’m wrong
Assuming you’ve come to a conclusion on how much BTC or BTC-related equites you want, would you choose all BTC or a combination of something like MSTR and BTC?
So MicroStrategy provided $3.980 billion of exit liquidity to sellers this last bull market?
MicroStrategy execs. explain Bitcoin to the shareholders
There is no second best: What if MicroStrategy had bought Ether instead? BlockchainCenter shows the stats
What if Microstrategy had brought ETH instead? Saylor: "There is no second best"
Bitcoin or mstr as a long term investment on Bitcoin
Anybody ever done the math of buying MSTR instead of Bitcoin and if it gives you better exposure to Bitcoin’s price action?
Michael Saylor’s MicroStrategy (MSTR) bought 301 Bitcoin for $6 million bringing its total BTC holding to almost 130,000 BTC. Do you think MSTR will survive this bear market or will they eventually be forced to liquidate their BTC?
“Michael Burry of Crypto” is betting on a market crash with shorts on COIN, MSTR, BITO
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100%. 78% in BTC and 22% in MSTR. I’m completely out of fiat and by proxy equities. I do not believe it makes sense for me to waste time making fiat gains when the fiat game is rigged and a waste of time.
I like to think all of MSTR’s BTC is managed via a hot wallet on an iPhone 8 with a cracked screen and battery so shot it can’t run without being plugged in. And it is kept in Saylor’s top desk drawer and the seed phrase is written on a post-it note that he carries in his pocket.
I’m the guy TradFi tells you not to worry about. 90% BTC 10% MSTR… so technically 100% BTC. Wouldn’t recommend this unless you have a high risk tolerance and a sprinkle of autism
Why not 4x and go all in on MSTR calls
I'd advise buying MSTR in an ISA so you don't have to pay CGT on profit.
Put some in bitcoin and the rest in MSTR. It’s a nice balance between stocks and bitcoin
100% in btc. Ira’s are in MSTR and a little bit in etf
300% as I maxed out my loans and threw it all into BTC and MSTR stocks. I will pay off these loans in next 5 years relatively easily with my income, with more money left to DCA monthly on top of that. F\*ck fiat, short it too.
I was there for this. The Michael Saylor talk was excellent, as well. Bought some MSTR after that one.
Wonder if it is taking Saylor more time to redline and negotiate the terms of MSTR’s next huge $2B buy?
IMO don't fuck with defi exchanges. They're for crypto degenerates and scammers. Maybe if you want leveraged exposure but can't figure it out, you should stick to leveraged ETFs. Let someone manage it for you. MSTR is a pseudo leveraged ETF of BTC. MSTX is a 1.75x leveraged long ETF of MSTR, for that extra spicy leverage on leverage volatility degens love.
Take a look at the distribution of Bitcoin versus USD. Elon Musk’s net worth is what, USD$240 billion? M2 was $21,054 billion as of July. The richest man in the world controls about 1.1% of M2. Bitcoin: there are 2M or so total Bitcoin out there (ie not including Satoshi’s). Microstrategy owns 226,500 BTC, or about 1.1% of total BTC. Coincidentally, Microstrategy and Musk are about the same level if you’re comparing USD to BTC. It’s very conceivable that MSTR’s holdings are not the largest in the world. Heck the Bitcoin pizza was 10,000 BTC, and back in 2010 that was like $30. 225,500 BTC was <$700 back then, so it’s likely that some drug dealer is the BTC richest person in the world through nothing other than luck.
Leverage as much debt as you can against BTC. As long as you can secure the debt below 7% APR it's a high risk high reward. I'm leveraged 30K (GBP) on MSTR + 10K GBP on Bitcoin. The way I see it is what have I exactly got to lose. If it all goes to shit I declare bankruptcy. And enjoy a homeless life in the woods. Or ;) Must add I am late 20s almost no responsibilities apart from a mortgage. Everyonea situation is slightly different if you were just about to retire obviously you wouldn't piss around like this with high risk.
It's US full equity index low cost vanguard ETF. It has stakes in things such as MSTR and RIOT which are directly tied to the price of Bitcoin and mining Bitcoin.
Yeah, Blackrock has accumulated more BTC (on behalf of its customers) since January than MSTR has. and that’s just one ETF. When more companies realize what Michael Saylor did, they’re gonna follow suit. And then there’s nation states… Game Theory ON!!
Reading other messages and providing some guidance here. Make sure that the assets you bought are the correct ones Bitcoin, Coinbase (COIN) and Microstrategy (MSTR). Other instruments, e.g. ETFs, may have a different behaviour from the underlying assets. If someone criticises you, they’re jealous or envious, either of your position or of your youth. Ignore them. I’m happy to share my learnings with you and any other genuine person with a kind heart.
100% in if you’re under 40 makes sense. Add some MSTR to your retirement fund and BTC ETFs and you’ll be fine.
MSTY up 8% today MSTR up 10%. MSTY also pats 100% dividend
80% Bitcoin in cold storage 20% MSTR in cash account and ira.
put your money where your mouth is and load up on MSTR puts. If you really know what youre talking about you should make bank
Let’s see MSTR get to 100B$ first. That’d make me pretty happy.
I don’t get these products. Just buy MSTR. Or better yet, buy BTC.
Dude those funds are at all time lows but regular COIN and MSTR are not what are you doing
As long as you won’t need the capital for other expenses for at least 5 yrs you will be a huge winner. You will likely be a short term winner soon as well but let it grow. I hope you mean MSTR or you own something else. Good luck.
Two baskets are enough! I mean BTC and MSTR.
They are the yieldmax ETFs of them. But they follow similarly. Put it this way, if MSTR goes up, MSTY will as well. But every month a large dividend is taken out of the NAV.
Please for the love of God microstrategy is MSTR not MSTY. MSTY is a yield product. MSTR is a good option for those that can handle extra volitily or for whatever reason, taxes regulations lack of technological competency don't want to use a hardware wallet.
MSTR is worth $22.2 Billion. Did you look at MSFT by mistake?
Seeking alpha says that ETFs are subject. I guess I can just buy MSTR as a proxy for the 31 day waiting period and then flip back.
Teslas holdings are peanuts compared to Microstrategy. Saylor has First Movers Advantage I dont see any other operating company catching up anytime soon. The only other names worth noting are BlackRock and Fidelity, but they are holding on behalf of their clients, therefore not comparable to MSTR.
At the time MSTR did the bitcoin thing it was ranked at about 1650th biggest US company.
lol!!!! this bozo in minting money shorting you MSTR . You're losing your shirt . Whats wrong with this picture ?
MSTR is not using leverage u bozo 🤡
I bought BTC-ETF & MSTR in my tax advantaged accounts. Plus, numerous other small amounts of a few coins in my portfolio, I’m buying to average down. However , I’m not going to say what I’m buying, as this is a BTC sub, and I’m not saying what I bought is better, nor am I recommending anything. It’s just that the market is still in a good position for accumulation at the moment. The particular subject being more around September, this will firmly divide people into the sell, or at best hold/watch, versus the, it’s a good time to buy, of which I obviously fall into the latter category.
the crash is here. once MSTR is margin called and bankrupted, BTC goes under 10k
that's fucked up, twice MSTR than BTC. MS got it all wrong.
Ayo. My peeps that bought MSTR at 190. Are u on the hotline list yet?
He probably just didn't get it bc. the culture was too far from his reference point, all his values match it pretty will. MSTR is the modern BRK as in buy and hold. Then again he is just a guy that bought stock to earn money, why would we care what he thinks. His main qualification was that he became rich. An actually great buy and hold investor would have gotten it imo
I don’t think you can access any BTC ETF via UK products including a SIPP. This is because there are no KIID’s available to UK investors, which allow them to make an informed decision on the fund they are buying. I own Microstrategy in my SIPP (an equity, not an ETF or other type of fund) as a BTC proxy. Although this is more volatile than the ETF’s due to the leverage that Microstrategy use to acquire their BTC. I suspect when the ETF’s are available in the UK, I’ll convert 75-80% of my MSTR into the cheapest ETF
I had some, sold for a profit. Now only have 1 stock - MSTR
If cold storage is to scary or technical a traditional brokerage account like e trade is alot better than Robinhood. You could hold a ETF or MSTR. Yes cold storage is safer but only if you do it right. Transfer to a trusted brokerage account and learn to use cold storage at your own pace with small amounts instead of putting a 100k into a cold card you barely know how to use and not sleeping well at night.
Well MSTR already owns over 1% of all bitcoin so
@punterjeff and @ryquant are great for their MSTR analysis
OK so we have MSTR buying like crazy, other companies seeing this and doing the same. We have the ETF's that bring in a lot of capital, but more importantly signalling that bitcoin is OK to the normies. We have presidential candidates talking about bitcoin reserves. Pension funds investing. We are having a year of incredible adoption. 10% price drop: Bitcoin is done, it is over, bye.
if you consider MSTR, Blackrock, Fidelity, US Gov, Satoshi’s dead wallet, Lost BTCs and others who have a shitload, 0.25 BTC is wayyyyy smaller than 1.05%
The day Saylor announces the $2B MSTR buy, I will buy $2K in solidarity lol
Saylor is great, but the stock split ruined the stock. BTC goes up, MSTR goes down.
So MSTR goes up 2x BTC, and 9x on the way down. What a stock.
What does this do to MSTR premium vs. NAV? Any impact?
I've been selling some MSTR stock to fund my pew pew habit. Been selling one share a day to pay for a Ruger I picked up the other day. I think I won't sell anymore for a few days until the price recovers.
well gents. I probably just lost some money on MSTR options I shouldve just spent on bitcoin. Learn from my mistake
yea sold my MSTR puts at close my bad yall i was holding up the crypto market 🤡😆
I orange pilled a Buddy who has hammered IBIT, MSTR and bought a whole coin today. I’m doing my part!
Hopefully with a distant expiration date. Short term MSTR calls would be crazy
Damn I have MSTR calls getting destroyed right now
I didn't say ETF was individual owners. They are a mix bag. I said, anything beyond ETF is mostly retail. A few thousand of MSTR doesn't matter much.
MSTR is like a leveraged Bitcoin ETF. Like 2x. MSTX is a levelered MSTR ETF, so almost 4x bitcoin.
MSTR is probably more correlated if you're unable to buy the ETF.
Meh. I just buy MSTR, FBTC, IREN, GDLC, etc in my IRA. Good enough proxy.
lol. I’ve been an MSTR stockholder for about 15 years, so I’m familiar with this story, and VERY happy with the results (1000%+ last 5 years due to BTC on their balance sheet.) It reminds me of the Fred Smith (?) story on FedEx. He got a failing grade when he proposed it as a business model.
Everything can be expected from Bitcoin. And usually MSTR delivers 3x what Bitcoin does.
Take it up with Saylor and the MSTR board of Directors.
MSTR just detached from BTC so they probably just started selling stock to buy coin
MSTR has beat BTC over the last 5 years. Great play, especially in a tax free account like a Roth.
I'm buying as long as I'm working. I contribute my full 401k match every paycheck since that's free money. Then I put it all in FBTC since my plan allows it through a self directed brokerage. Before the ETF I was able to buy MSTR. And some actual BTC on a cold wallet. It doesn't make sense to buy anything else for retirement purposes.
So were we being trolled when we saw a headline (or did I even see a headline) that MSTR was planning a buy of $2B?
Get real, Bitcoin would need to 120x from here for MSTR to even match the marketcap of Apple. That'd place bitcoin at 144 trillion while expecting Apple's marketcap to remain the same as it is today.
It’s good in theory, but the problem is trying to time the market. You could sell at $120k and then it goes to $180k and then to $240k. If that happens then you missed out on a lot of gains. Consider instead dollar cost averaging your withdrawals once you are in profit. Later, you would dollar cost average those stablecoins back into BTC. Or, HODL and just buy the dips or dollar cost average buying new BTC. It may be simpler to accomplish your goals by buying MSTR, which is like buying leveraged BTC. It can also be purchased easily through a Roth IRA and avoid taxes later. BTC can also be purchased in a Roth IRA but slightly more complicated for now. Also, rebalancing your IRA from BTC/bitcoin ETF/MSTR to money market is easy and inexpensive or free.
I do both. Well, sort of. I have a Strike Wallet that I use to DCA every hour, especially in dips ($2.50 was most recently in the last month or so, but that cash ran out). 75% of my Crypto exposure is in ETFs. I've even dabbled a bit in BITX as a means to double down on this dip in my Roth IRA (tax free gains, times 2, with BITX, and a monthly dividend) as well as MSTR (Microstrategies) in my brokerage account. IBIT and MSTR in my Brokerage account both let me take out a margin loan, if I need the cash. I do not have to pay Capital Gains taxes on this. Additionally, if I itemize, all of the interest I'm paying (2.25% plus the Prime Rate, so 7.25% total) is a tax deduction. I primarily use the loan to consolidate debts, and mainly to invest more when the market dips. And most of the areas I'm investing at this point are Crypto Mining, BTC ETFs, and MSTR. It has helped my net worth grow (even with the debt) by almost 100% in 12 months on the platform that I handle most of my retirement. I can use strike as a lightning wallet. Yes, I do know that it is not the purist way of doing it. But If I needed to start paying off debts or needed to buy some things it is very easy for me to sell my coin, send my coin, or within the app, use my coin to purchase any number of VISA or Amazon gift cards (not that I would). My main reason I use strike is the hourly DCA.
I like to stay conservative and diversify with stocks and funds Btc.. IBIT.. MSTR
I have a 10 year plan. That puts me at 2030 at the earliest... Ideally I can liquidate my MSTR and IBIT to enjoy some spoils... none of the real Bitcoin.
Yeah the closest you can get to any BTC exposure is through MSTR stock which most ISAs allow you to add. BTC in ISAs or retirement funding is Forbidden.
Can't hold direct BTC in an ISA. You could move to a country that doesn't tax cryptocurrency gains (e.g. in Germany they're tax free if held for at least a year. Portugal, Malta, and Switzerland are also options). Closest proxy to BTC that can be held in an ISA is probably MSTR shares.
LOL. You're nuts. BTC is up because the ultra rich are moving their money out of Russia and China. It's going to ATH then below 8k taking these idiots with them. This is dangerous. No one in this forum seems to understand how money works. I bought MSTR in 2020 before it blew up specifically for this reason. Saylor is a moron and I've loved front running his nonsense and making a fortune. MSTR is going to blow up the stock mkt when crypto tanks in the next 5-8 months. Remind me...lol Godpseed
He's definitely buying bitcoin with money from MSTR.
MSTR calls for J Powells speech at Jackson Hole tomorrow
MSTR is perfect for UK as there’s no BTC ETF options, stacking sats in my pension via MSTR is awesome.
Has MSTR purchased their latest tranche of Bitcoin?
