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iocularis

Have you tried using a VPN? And drive across the border to a country that's Bitcoin friendly buy some Bitcoin at a Bitcoin ATM and circumvent the old system that should be abolished anyway

NIssanZaxima

I know I fucked up so I’m going to get it back after I make a withdrawal from the ATM with my credit card.

harvested

Saylor has gotta be smashing the ATM this week, I'm expecting a bit buy announced on Monday.

ManlyAndWise

A lot of these people were either rich or robbed at an ATM with a lot of money in their hands. It's different from a sticker on your car. And the car wasn't even a Ferrari, I wouldn't want to be seen dead in an ID.3 ;)

Different_Walrus_574

Option 1: Use a Crypto Exchange App (Easiest & Most Popular) Apps like Bitso, Binance, or Kraken make this pretty easy in Mexico. Step-by-step with Bitso (popular in Mexico): 1. Download the Bitso app (or go to bitso.com). 2. Sign up & verify your identity (you’ll need an ID and maybe a selfie). 3. Deposit MXN: • Tap Deposit. • Choose SPEI bank transfer (you’ll get a CLABE or account number). • Transfer money from your Mexican bank account to that CLABE. 4. Buy BTC: • Once MXN shows in your wallet, tap Buy/Sell. • Choose Bitcoin, enter the amount in pesos, and confirm. 5. Done! You now own BTC. ⸻ Option 2: Use a Bitcoin ATM • Find a Bitcoin ATM near you in Mexico using coinatmradar.com. • Bring cash pesos. • Scan your Bitcoin wallet QR code (can use apps like BlueWallet or Muun). • Insert pesos. • Confirm and receive BTC in your wallet. ⸻ Option 3: Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Platforms • Use Binance P2P, Paxful, or LocalBitcoins. • Find someone selling BTC for MXN. • Pay them (usually via bank transfer). • BTC is released to your wallet. This is cheaper sometimes but riskier — make sure to use escrow-protected platforms and only deal with high-rated users. -ChatGPT

pqrs90

Avoid Zypto because if your funds go missing from their debit card issuance they won’t take responsibility. Redotpay is excellent. I used the ATM with their card and no money came out yet my card was still debited, without me chasing them down after a few days once the Thai bank did their audit my card was credited for amount lost. Very impressive

tommy4019

Bitcoin ATM

MachinimaGothic

We speak about situation in which we want to exchange this in physical place. In virtual scenario in which access to electricity or internet is not that sure. In my country its only few places in which you can exchange BTC like you exchange to person dollars for euro. Most common are BTC ATMs but be sure that even if you have electricity and internet they wouldnt have money. Places in which they buy silver or gold are plenty like this. I already tested this with silver. Coin was evaluated and price proposed and you get cash. I didnt have to prove anything. I am currently silver bug in future I will go for gold. Why I want physical place? Because this complicated chain even if we have internet or electricity "Exchange>Bank Account>ATM Machine" will be much easier to compromise. Shoutout to my friends from Venezuela which are robbed by their bank because it deducts huge % for every transfer which go from countries outside of venezuela. And shoutout for them because they cant withdraw shit from their ATMs Maybe such a thing like localbitcoin solution is an option but never tested. And you put yourself at risk in the moment of truth.

Kriskao

The first time I arrived at Panama, I only had US dollars on me so I figured I would get some local currency. I went to an ATM and I was very confused when it gave me more US dollars. Yes I know this is not bitcoin related, but there are countries that just use someone else’s currency.

life764

> Is there anything I can do? Of course. You can learn from your experience and be smarter next time. The blockchain has no useful information for you. If you got scammed by a physical ATM, then that's your best lead.

WHALE_PHYSICIST

Well then go to a Bitcoin ATM and print it from there. If you're going through luck to but it and learning how to send it to someone else, you've already gotten into it

Strict_Anybody_1534

A friend got robbed/mugged in London at the ATM. Any monetary unit can be lost/stolen/taken. I just trust open source mathematical code more.

hoyeay

Why would any country need this 🤡 Just buy BTC ATM!!

naminghell

How would an ATM even work under this conditions? And even if you are lucky and cashed out "1 day before" your hypothetical scenario, before everyone else, your printed paper is as worthless as a credit card would be. You'd be back to barter if you wouldn't be a prepper or extremely powerful in the first place. So, what do you have? >Food, Medicine, Ass, Gas and Grass ?

Antique_Wrongdoer775

I asked this before, but was ignored. If you use the ATM with fake glasses with a big nose - will the ATM reject your transaction?

__Ken_Adams__

No, not in the way you're thinking. A Bitcoin ATM could not link a Bitcoin address to a phone or anything else. There are potential ways to link an identity to a bitcoin address, but it's not simple & would require additional pieces of information. Basically, extra manual investigative steps would need to be taken to connect the dots. Usually we'd be talking about law enforcement involvement. So it depends. If you are someone who may be on law enforcement's radar, there are many ways they can connect your bitcoin activity to your identity. If you're just a nobody that wants to know if using an ATM risks exposing your identity, you don't have much to worry about. Ironically, you said you weren't concerned about the phone number part, yet that is the most likely way the ATM would identify you. It cannot identify you simply from a bitcoin address, but your phone number definitely will.

AdMost6090

Buying Bitcoin from an ATM can potentially be traced back to a phone during the transaction. Most especially through phone number verification or kyc.

izza123

The Bitcoin ATM will take a photo of you

izza123

Crypto ATMs are in public places with cameras or private businesses with cameras. They also have inbuilt cameras. There is no using it truly anonymously. Scammers solve this problem by tricking the elderly into using the ATM for them

__Ken_Adams__

Can you explain further? When you buy bitcoin at an ATM to receive bitcoin all you provide is your bitcoin address. The ATM would have no way of identifying anything about your phone from a bitcoin address.

NiagaraBTC

Yes, that is an excellent feature to have. Bitcoin only, self-custodial mandatory. The right way. In Canada at least they have a good network of ATMs, which you can use to fund a kyc-lite account (email only), at a much lower premium than for a regular ATM purchase. You can also pay bills from that kyc-lite account.

pinktrending

150k from an ATM seems pretty crazy. How did they keep refilling all of that money?

windinghigh

If you willingly give your ID to a Bitcoin ATM company that requires it to use their services then don't be surprised when they report your activities, crypto is no longer the wild west and these companies are giant enterprises that have strict reporting requirements just like every other crypto and Fiat brokerage. If you don't give your ID, then you're probably fine. These guys aren't going to track you down using CCTV and facial recognition to associate your account, at least not in 2025. Moral of the story is: if you give a financial institution your ID, expect them to report on it. The only naive move here was thinking a KYC enabled Bitcoin ATM is a way to avoid taxes.

Much_Anybody6493

of course just like withdrawing from coinbase and no reporting would do the same. He gave the ATM his ID lol

poco

Or use an ATM that only requires a phone number and get a burner phone and spend the money as cash. Better yet, do it in another country.

series_hybrid

I have some bitcoin in a Roth IRA, and if there was the will to do it in the banking industry, they could make it happen. I could deposit $7,000 once a year in a bitcoin Roth IRA, and I "should" be able to spend that money whenever I please with no tax hit. If the spending was in the form of a credit card/ATM card, why not?

Justsomedudeonthenet

You didn't deposit $40 and receive $26. You deposited $40 and received some amount of bitcoin. There shouldn't be any tax involved. Tax is what the government collects. But there usually are fees involved - the actual transaction fees plus whatever extra the ATM operator wants to charge. They also might not give the best available exchange rates.

TheBakedGod

Yes the fees are outrageous at the ATM's. Just buy from an exchange like everyone else

vijsha79

It depends. MSTY uses ATM CC to maximize the premiums which runs a risk of shares being called away or gold digger (as RoD calls them). 10-delta 30-45 DTE are much lower risk and could be used to generate decent cash flow while giving you enough protection if the MSTR price moves 30-40%.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A 73-year-old woman from Delhi Township recovered $35,000 lost to cryptocurrency scammers after falling victim to a Microsoft impersonation scam in 2024. The scammers convinced her to convert $41,750 into Bitcoin via a Bitcoin ATM, claiming her computer was compromised. Prompt action by the Delhi Township Police and Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation led to freezing the funds and recovering most of the stolen money. Authorities warn of rising Bitcoin-related scams and emphasize reporting incidents quickly for better chances of recovery. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

The_surreal_McCoy

Good astrologer! Unless mom has a heart condition, that is. With the fuckery, that is going in the markets ATM, 30% loss in just a few weeks might get her killed.

Derrick_13

Bitcoin ATM. None of those around, Id recommend p2p but on Reddit is sketch af

harvested

I think you need to study bitcoin more. If you're trying to generate $100 casino might be better. Who knows. Bitcoin isn't really made for this. It's not an ATM.

Sin-City-Sinner

Hopefully not the hype of the ATM machine, especially in 2015 they were beyond terrible!

mogenheid

I dca'd out profits near ath so I'm about even ATM.

doyzer9

Join the Kaspa Reddit group, such a great community, and KAS is a ridiculously cheap ATM. Thank me in May / June, Kaspa will be huge.

Vdhsvhsvhshvshsjdkkd

FUD spreading, they will not have to sell BTC. Interest payments can be made with ATM in the worst case scenario which we are not even close to.

110010010011

It’s probably a Ledger Nano that needs to be plugged into a computer with a USB cable to function. So there are two passwords to look for. The first one is a PIN. It’s likely to be either 4 digits or 8 digits. Ask her if there is a 4 or 8 digit number she would typically use. I would try the PIN to her ATM card first. People might also use a birthday or the code to something like a safe or garage door. You can try some PINs but the device will eventually erase itself after to many incorrect tries. The second password to look for is a 12 or 24 word list. This is the recover phrase for the wallet. You can literally erase the ledger and still be able to recover the wallet if you find this list. Ledgers come with little cards that these words are expected to be written on. One might keep that card in the original box, a safe, or a safety deposit box. It will look like this: https://cryptopotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ledger_nano_s_4.jpg The recovery words are only words on this list: https://www.blockplate.com/pages/bip-39-wordlist So if she saved these 12 or 24 words on her computer (which is a terrible idea btw), she might have saved the BTC after all. Perform a search on the computer for literally every word on that list until you find a document with a list of them.

down_to_earth99

Hey since you're in Germany, how can one trade dollars for euros? Or even Bitcoin? It's in cash so I need a place irl. Like that Bitcoin ATM for example

Mantis-Prawn

Free money glitch: Buy BTC on CEX, and exchange it to local currency via this ATM. 

Background_Home7092

....perhaps, but there's no way a 25% tax on unrealized gains would've stuck for anyone anyway. Not sure about you but my BTC is in cold storage and crypto tax reporting is based on sales, so if I'm not selling, there are no gains to pay tax on and like hell if I'm gonna tell the IRS what I'm holding unless I have to. By the time it's actually worth withdrawing, I might just grab a flight to Dubai and withdraw it all from one of those sweet Bitcoin ATM machines lol.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

Does the only buy the tops because that's when he can get the most ATM and such?

Grand-Button5819

p2p through bisq (or similar) or using a Bitcoin ATM and cash.

wooly_torch

", you say to the police officer as he tries to escort you out of the building. "NO- WAIT!" He's pulling you from the ATM as it prints your ticket. You barely grasp it with one finger but the cop pistol whips you on the jaw. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" You suddenly break free. You were wearing a full-body button suit and the cop was unaware. Now he's holding the suit in his sweaty palms as you run out into the sun fully nude.

wooly_torch

The year gets crazier, and the politicians giddy off every time things go their way, and everything is sus on the globe. The simple citizen observes, if they are lucky enough - and if they can think critically then they're probably tired. Real tired. They probably find solace in footprints in the mud, and damselflies trying to dodge hail as everyone runs out to the parking to cover their cars. But it's too late, all the lambos are totaled, and suddenly you wake up, but you're sitting in a chair at the bank, and security is tapping you on the shoulder. You've been a derelict all along, but no one knows you've implanted your seed phrase under your bottom lip. Obviously, you go to the closest ATM and purchase more BTC before the cops see you.

cyborg_elephant

I believe it's part of the manipulation. Their 8-k filing was very vague. An at-the-market offering 'from time to time at the corporations sole discretion" to use for "general corporate purposes including buying bitcoin" So they're gonna dump a bunch of stock on a day when insiders have short positions but they are the only ones who know when up to $2B of stock will be sold off ATM. Super sketchy. And then use the proceeds for whatever the fuck they want. While the headlines all say it's to buy bitcoin, the SEC filing suggests they're likely using it for other reasons. On the surface it looks like a Strategy strategy, but I honestly believe it's more of a fraud strategy. Any leverage on mara is basically going to be stolen from you but a long term hold has potential.

alexanderldn

When’s the next pump coming ???? I’m still waiting for a bigger ATM for BTC and the alts. Serious question.

FuelFragrant

Spoiled brats who probably don't even know how to use an ATM machine

__The__Anomaly__

It depends what you want to use it for: Investment: An online crypto exchange like kraken. Drugs: A bitcoin ATM that accepts cash.

OkEstablishment7095

Works on some Crypto ATM apps like Unbank and Stack you can generate a barcode on the apps and it will generate a barcode that you can scan at self checkout registers and you can buy with cash

Lurlerrr

The bonds are issued privately to EVO Fund which holds a ton of Metaplanet shares. So it is in their interest to help Metaplanet pump their bitcoin bag. They've been doing it for months now and so far it continues working great to their mutual benefit. Evo Fund also helps Metaplanet with ATM, since in Japan you can't do that yourself like MSTR does in US. So, Evo fund basically short sells their shares ATM and then Metaplanet issues more shares to them to replenish. It's not _exactly_ like that, but net effect is the same. Anyway, I don't want to type an entire dissertation here, but this whole thing has been working great since they started :) Source for the above: I'm a shareholder and follow their disclosures.

Antique_Wrongdoer775

How can you trust anyone you connect with on one of these exchanges? Is there a high fraud rate? Then, silly question, would an ATM sell you bitcoin if you were wearing fake glasses with a big nose and mustache disguise?

SmoothGoing

Bar has to pay processor fees for accepting your card. It's a convenience to both them and the customer. They could just be a cash only bar and have an ATM on site so if you came with a card it would be up to you to pay ATM fees to get cash out. As for minimums there are different rules and contract terms and laws governing all that. At one time the merchant could not impose a minimum payment per their contract with the payment processor (Visa, MasterCard, Amex, Discover). And it was just a store policy that could be challenged. But whether they get in trouble if someone complained is unclear. Nor how it works in different parts of the world. You can always not be customer and go somewhere else. Unless you can't and that's the only game in town. Bitcoin also has fees and they are paid by the sender. Lightning requires a funded channel so that businesses will have to put in as much as they need to accept. Isn't ideal since it effectively freezes capital that can't be used for salaries or supplies and other business things. And this option will cover a tiny percentage of customers who are in tune with lightning payments. The vast majority will still be paying by other means. At least for the time that purchases with BTC are taxable events which comes with some heavy reporting overhead.

Starwaverraver

Trust wallet fees are dodgy. Just looked and they say they have nothing to do with it and say the current bitcoin transfer fee is $3. Yet you can see online a priority transfer ATM is $0.23. Not trust worthy.

Josephhmung

In fact, they dropped a little lower than their previouse ATM. So more on the 50k level. 

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; MARA Holdings has announced a $2 billion stock offering to acquire more Bitcoin, continuing its strategy of raising capital to strengthen its cryptocurrency holdings. The company has set up an at-the-market (ATM) equity program with major investment banks and plans to use the proceeds for Bitcoin purchases and general corporate purposes. MARA currently holds 46,376 BTC, making it the second-largest Bitcoin holder among publicly listed firms. This move aligns with its strategy to buy Bitcoin on the open market amid rising mining costs and reduced profitability. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

antonsmari

Real money is also fake money, but it's government enforced and therefore government approved money... Still very fake to be real, it's lent into existance, fractionally inflated as well as printed out of nothing, not backed by anything... I mean the path from fiat money to cryptocurrency is one based on people's trust of a trustless network and that scares people, adoption is a pain but do note that people adopted many technologies in the last 200 years... Do you think the mail industry liked the telephone, or telephone companies liked the internet? All everybody has done to align with new inventions is align with the ones that are following an adoption curve and hope that they picked the right technology... ATM Bitcoin has no contest really, so until that changes we can only trust in the first mover advantage and network growth rate...

Valuable-Ability4397

ATM offerings

Fireinthehole_x

OTC, [https://kycnot.me/](https://kycnot.me/), bisq, ATM, shop, teller, non-kyc-exchanges...

BlazingJava

I feel pitty over ICP boys, you're some rich CEO personal ATM

portulent

I believe it operates using ATM portals

Fireinthehole_x

OTC, [https://kycnot.me/](https://kycnot.me/), bisq, ATM, shop, teller,...

Btcyoda

The first question is more or less answered by others below and is a basic guess, not to mention it is possible to upgrade Bitcoin before that treat becomes a reality. Your last question; it will be as safe as you taping your bankpass with the PIN written on it on an ATM. The whole Bitcoin system is based on you doing some thinking yourself. Not just assuming things or believing others but to verify. You can formulate the right questions after some help, so you can think. Especially that last question is rather straightforward, isn't it ?

00_Jose_Maria_00

How much are you looking to buy? [Robosats](https://robosats.org/) has offers sometimes with Amazon gift cards as payment options. If you can get your hands on the gift cards, you are in business. Right now I don't see any, but they pop up here and there. Alternatively, for small amounts, you can try [Bisq Easy](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy). And if all else fails, you can try to find [non-kyc Bitcoin ATM. ](https://youtu.be/DnheitmOalQ)

EloquentMrE

Bitcoin ATM and a cold wallet?

InternationalFly5025

Need help getting my money from bit coin ATM please help 

United_Jaguar_8098

yeah today quicko fucked off in a very quick way :D I lost my 200$ i just kept there to transfer through iban from coin ATM. I gues i'm really lucky fucker xD

Grand-Button5819

Exchange p2p or use a Bitcoin ATM.

plane_ribbon420

I have a Coinbase card. Never used it, but my buddy uses his all the time. Can get cash straight from an ATM if you need it. Otherwise it just works like a debit card. Although you might have to transfer your btc to usd first.

redeembtc

The bank will refund you. You just need to contact them, when they count the ATM and find a discrepancy they sort you out.

Wobbalabba776

Today I tried to deposit fiat into an ATM and it ate my money. I look forward to bitcoin future

idliketoseethat

I have a Coinbase debit card that I used last Saturday to get $200 out of an ATM at my favorite casino. With the Coinbase Card, if you only hold cryptocurrency, you can spend it at any location that accepts Visa debit cards, as Coinbase will automatically convert your crypto to US dollars before completing purchases and ATM withdrawals. 

BTC_90210

Bitcoin ATM. Cover your face.

Tatler-Jack

How fucking corrupt can a government be? The UK doesn't allow bitcoin ATM's and the bullshit banks continue to freeze and block many people purchasing bitty. The banks themselves have bitcoin departments and traders. Yet they hate the idea that we (the little people), might choose to buy some. Fuck the banks.

CipherScarlatti

The amount of desperation coming off Saylor is pretty heavy ATM. "Bitcoin $250k by next Tuesday!" Doesn't inspire confidence.

NiagaraBTC

An ATM that is no-KYC or even min-KYC is going to have 12-16% spread

CocaBam

Bitcoin ATM's, just like every smart drug buyer in 2014-2016 when exchanges were rare and always exit scamming.

Hatedpriest

I've seen BTC ATMs. I'd assume there's a way to find a wallet that doesn't involve verification. Use the ATM to transfer fiat from/to the wallet.

OkEstablishment7095

Bitcoin ATMs usually don't offer options to cash out but you can use the app to cash out on partner ATM network such as the touch screen NCR ATMs you see at CVS and Walgreens

OkEstablishment7095

No stupid questions here! It works by inserting physical cash into the ATM. You paste your wallet into the app and after you insert the cash into the ATM to buy the Bitcoin, the ATM will scan your wallet off of the app. And yes companies like Unbank are safe as long as you are the one buying the crypto and putting it into your own wallet.

Frontbovie

The ATM scans a QR code on your phone for your personal wallet. After you insert the cash, it sends the coin through the network.

liftingforlife_

Sorry for the stupid question, but how does it work exactly? A physical card you slide in and enter your pin, but how do you withdraw from your crypto wallet using an ATM?

Amber_Sam

BISQ, robosats, vexl, peachbitcoin, Bitcoin ATM (BTCmap.org), Bitcoin meetups.

kirtash93

ATM spread price and fees the real robbery.

Amber_Sam

BISQ (BISQ2), robosats, Vexl, peachbitcoin, Bitcoin ATM (BTCmap.org) or visit a Bitcoin meetup.

Ok-Illustrator3272

I buy annonymously with cash in those bitcoin ATM things, but those tend to charge you more for transacting. I still find it more comfourtable then giving all my info into some exchange just to buy crypto.

HMCLXOX

Thx,I just buy some from HK Bitcoin ATM

jbone027

Hehehe... My bad, I didn't know "ATM" meant 3 months ago. If we are going to play the zoom out game. Look at the 6 months and again, by no metric is BTC outperforming or holding up as well. Ya lost playboi, and you were mad while doing it. GG. Do some research next time you make some dipshit assertion and/or at least provide context such as "looking at the 3 month chart". Doing so lets the rest of us know how the mind of a regard works! See ya on WSB!

NEO_v6

Here’s the thing. I’m not sure if it’s the same anywhere else in the world. But here in the UK, the pandemic had a noticeable impact on how currency exchanges hands. I’m not going to go too in-depth with it all (unless you want to). But as cold hard cash becomes the next to follow the cheque and I don’t doubt will be closely followed by the ATM. Won’t all currencies eventually become cryptocurrencies?

DreamingTooLong

The United States government can put a bitcoin ATM inside every single post office. Charge 5% both directions. The money the machine makes goes straight to the strategic reserve.

Lavayo

Or delayed. The cycle times with fed printing + rate cutting. This will still happen! US has to refinance debt soon. My theory is we will seen money flooding in and a calming of tariffs and Ukraine war. Half of the fear is artificial ATM, the economy only STARTS to show cracks. We will see a giant last run for risk assets. In euphoria the next bear market will start violently and without mercy.

Even-Boat-9011

Everyone seems scared sh1tless because Trump is addressing so much obvious corruption, MSM is owned by the globalists therefore they are pushing the fear to which shakes out the masses. If you're crypto is at loss hold and if you can't hold maybe consider your own decisions getting in in the first place. All the markets are down ATM not just crypto and very possibly has further to drop but it will change for a , I believe, historic rise. Have faith

420osrs

Couple things. First, you shouldn't be using a crypto ATM. The fees are insane. That was a mistake. Do not do that again. Second, the amount you tried to use the ATM for was too high. That's about two weeks of income for most people. Think of a crypto ATM like a regular ATM where you can only use it for $400. And it's just like a ATM where the cost of using it is incredibly high. So you avoid it and you go to your bank. In this scenario, the bank is a crypto exchange, and you should use Coinbase Crypto.com, Kraken, or your stock brokerage. Those are okay to use for large purposes because they validate your ID and make sure everything is ok. You did not interact with a regulated financial institution, so they can hold your bunny hostage as long as they want under the guise of validation.

FuelZestyclose3541

Look for a Bitcoin ATM. You can also get gift cards for Uber Eats and other things at Bitrefill

9000lbs

You could withdrawing from a bitcoin enabled ATM. First send that BTC to a hot wallet. That way you wont have to take your old wallet and get to the ATM.

soliton-gaydar

Take it to a Bitcoin ATM and redeem your money.

BadManTaliban

North Korean hackers treating crypto like their personal ATM, insane

Jumpy_Hold6249

Who is the bigger thief. The ATM who charges 20% or the person who kindly removed it from service and cleaned the dirty fiat from the machine?

dsk83

Barely a dip, I won't buy unless we hit sub 70k, so realistically 60k or less. I have more than enough BTC ATM and hope it doesn't get that low, I'm fine with not buying more atm

Sin-City-Sinner

👍 true!! Especially be quiet about it irl, I don’t tell anyone about it, accidentally skipped in front of my Bm the other night I was like FML! Everyone thinks you’re rich when you tell em! Noooooo you can’t borrow $150 GTFOH! They don’t get it, I’m holding! So that might mean I have assets but not liquid, and I’m definitely not liquefying so I can lend anybody a dime! I don’t know why everybody thinks I am a human ATM machine, I need to take your advice and my own advice which I know I should follow but… Yeah so I apparently have a reputation of somebody who has a lot of money and while I do well for myself I don’t have a lot of money I have two kids that I am and have been supporting completely alone, raising them alone for four years almost and supporting them since birth and for three years I was supporting their mother as well.