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okodel0786

I also found the same with a real receipt from a BTC ATM

rgnet1

Because it's BS. There's no free lunch. If you buy an ATM put with whatever contract period, the scenarios are: \- Bitcoin price declines. You still lose net worth, but you lose less than if you bought actual BTC. \- Bitcoin price is flat. You make a little money (the premium) versus holding BTC where your net worth is same. \- Bitcoin price increases. You would gain more value holding BTC directly. It's all just forms of betting with different terms. Like saying, "If my team wins by 2 points, I make more money than if they win by 10 points." Bottom line: If you believe in bitcoin, just buy bitcoin.

geddon

I agree with that assessment and would add that ATM networks and payment platforms are clearly on the rise. That's one reason why I bought in given infrastructure boom which sets the stage for broader merchant and consumer adoption in the coming years.

Ikki_The_Phoenix

I personally just keep stacking sats. Just 2% of my portfolio is in alts and those are lottery ticket asymmetric bets. If they moon fine. If they don't which they're not ATM. Fine too. The thing is diversify beyond crypto and have a buffer.

UpostedDude

Buy DOVU. You get 8300 ish when it goes to .01 you have 80usd to play with or hold til .1. U need to wait a bit. It’s at least real, otherwise ur gambling on an ATM moonshot which is unlikely just now

RoutinePrice446

ATM it's Saturday, so pretty much nothing.

ill-just-buy-more

I’m sure he shorted it at the same time. He has a free ATM machine and can manipulate everyone. The tower will collapse eventually

nycteris91

I have a BTC shop in my town with ATMs and everything, but I think it is dangerous to go in there. I'd never get close to one of those ATM, I prefer to convert to FIAT to spend because owning Bitcoin makes you a target. What do you guys think? Too paranoid?

finniruse

Last cycle, it was like 2 years up then 1 year sideways ending with a new ath. I have a feeling it's going to do something very similar to that by q1. And then 2026 bear market. At least that's what I'm banking on ATM.

suuperfli

there is very little overhead. MSTR shareholders own it because Saylor is able to increase their btc per share over time (via ATM when Mnav>1 and other instruments), while keeping margin rate low.

Django_McFly

I want a bank that lets me withdraw my balance as stablecoins as seamlessly as it is to withdraw as cash at a ATM or swipe my card and buy something. They can pick whatever chain they want, whatever doofball stablecoin or bank deposit token or what they want, just have USDC:TheToken pools on DEXs, Fully integrating is the only way the stay relevant for another hundred years. They *should* be the best bridge between tradfi and crypto. If they willingly hand it over to some newcomer, they've earned their fate.

Etna

If you own a store and you see an old person by the Bitcoin ATM, you have to be a real POS not to intervene

officerdandy92

The companies that own these ATM’s are completely aware of the fact that the machines are overwhelmingly only used for scams, essentially making them money launderers in my opinion

XZPUMAZX

My mother drove to two separate BTC ATM’s and both ‘malfunctioned’. She’s 80, it’s more likely she couldn’t figure it out. The total would have been 5k not 23k. It started with an email that looked like it came from her bank. Asked her to make a call. Law enforcement was powerless. These stories will become more and more common.

Kiiaru

This. And anyone who uses crypto regularly wouldn't need the ATM anyway, they'd have their own normal on ramp for crypto. Nearly every exchange on the planet has better spread and lower fees than these things. These devices should be removed everywhere.

KingPettyx

Bitcoin teller machine (BTM) versus a traditional automated teller machine (ATM).

Mikimao

A few years back I bought some over priced bitcoin from an ATM, cause I had a buncha cash on me I didn't wanna deposit on the bank.... It was purchased for a pretty poor rate, but w/e... Bitcoin is worth 2x that now, lol. I would buy for that same price in a heartbeat today.

Clean-Captain9933

Definitely...  Algo is seriously undervalued ATM but I bet we'll see it start to sun run here pretty soon.

word-dragon

Did you wear your hoody, baseball cap, a face mask, dark glasses, and gloves? And use cash that didn’t come from a bank or ATM machine? Cameras all over best buy and the bank and the ATM machines. Hopefully you didn’t park your car in the lot or uber over. To be safe, find out the retention policy for store video and wait three times that long to start using your device. Or just learn to live with KYC. Everybody wants to be a gangsta’ until they find out what a pain it actually is.

HairyChest69

Also, if $20 is taking you out then you shouldn't be focused on investing ATM. Focus on balancing your own income from a job first.

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valente317

No no no dude you don’t understand, of course all his bros with millions in liquid cash will be happy to be his ATM. Don’t all your bros have millions in cash, willing to trade it for a commodity that will In this case be more difficult to use? Passant

word-dragon

The truth is, aside from bitcoin and gold, - maybe real estate, you really don’t own anything. Your bank account is a line in a spreadsheet telling you what the bank thinks they owe you. A world shaking event can bring down your bank, ATM machines will go dark, and no one will take your check, anyway. For every suggestion of how bitcoin might be affected by existential threats, there’s a hundred people on Reddit screaming about being scammed. People need to spend more time paying attention to the danger at their door and less time prepping for a disaster that may not even be worth living through. Anyway, if and when the internet comes back, your bitcoin will be there. How many green beans each will buy is anyone’s guess.

Advanced-Summer1572

Don't believe it. Institutional Investors are buying it up at huge discounts. This narrative is from the past oriented perspective of a day trader. Bitcoin is maturing. Please HODL.The game has changed. The rich are taking over. Watch as they create new commercial products to use it. They raise the price of Sats to create lending vehicles. Then the Billion dollar thresholds to gain control of new financial systems. By the time you notice, you are standing at an ATM paying interest on a purchase funded by a Bitcoin based product. It is happening so fast. HODL! Get your .1 of an actual coin, not an ETF. Good luck.

ramosmarbella

mass adoption? my grandpa still dont know how to work an ATM.

Savik519

We had to walk uphill both ways to get to the BTC ATM to buy our sats. Kids these days.

mattressking97267

Did he carry any chips with him or little devices like storage USB thing did you find where the coins do you know which device they're on, you gotta try to remember his behaviors whenever he would buy things what did he do did he pull out a card it's probably on some card or something like a digital card like mine I have a digital card by crypto.com and it's basically ATM card a debit card you gotta also find out what platform he was using

rush87y

Would you rather have one ATM or one DVP?

Swimming_Sign_888

P2P or BTC ATM are good way to buy. But dyor with p2p as there are heaps of scammers also

MoralCalculus

Given your age a Bitcoin ATM is likely your most accessible option despite the higher fees, as most regulated exchanges require you to be 18. Someone also mentioned having your parents sign up an account for you but do be cautious about peer-to-peer platforms like LocalCoinSwap, as the risk of scams is high for inexperienced users...always prioritize security over a slightly better price.

Crypto_Jonesoff

Actually building a solution that aims to bring social-fi / gamification / real world applications together. ATM social-fi is a bit nonsense to me with the current solutions I know!

eman2top

The company, Strategy, plans on paying its **$689 million total annual interest and dividend obligations** primarily through the use of its **Common Equity ATM** (At-The-Market offering) [1, 2]. Strategy emphasizes that it has **"more than sufficient access to liquidity"** to manage its total annual interest and dividend obligations due to its proven track record of capital raising activities [3]. The company feels confident that its ATM will be **"more than supportive"** for all of these dividend obligations [1]. ### Details of the Annual Obligation The total annualized interest and dividend obligations of **$689 million** (as of October 24, 2025) comprise [4, 5]: * **$522 million** in cumulative dividends on preferred equity (STRF, STRC, and STRK) [5]. * **$125 million** in non-cumulative dividends on preferred equity (STRD) [5]. * **$35 million** in interest expense on its convertible debt [5]. The $689 million annual obligation represents a small fraction of the company's financial metrics [2, 3]: * **1.7%** of the **Last Twelve Months (LTM) Total Capital Raised** ($40.4 billion) [2]. * **2.6%** of the **LTM Common Equity Raised** ($26.9 billion) [2]. * **6.1%** of the **Year-to-Date 2025 Operating Income** ($12.0 billion) [2, 6]. * **21.7%** of the **Average Daily Volume (Common Equity Last 30 Days)** ($3.9 billion) [2]. Furthermore, Strategy highlights that its large Bitcoin holdings provide significant coverage for these long-term obligations. With $74 billion in Bitcoin holdings, the company asserts that its assets are sufficient to cover approximately **120 years of its annual preferred dividend needs** at current prices [3].

bbatardo

I can't say for certain, but my theory is he was worried the price would go higher/faster than it did, so wanted to accumulate faster. Maybe he bought into the Government BTC reserve ruse lol. ATM did hurt, but if you look at the chart.. mid July MSTR hit around 450. By this time a majority of ATM was done, so it wasn't just that which caused the dip. When they did they announce STRC? End of July.

vanceraa

The 21/21 method was good, but he tapped the ATM waaaay too quickly imo and spooked investors. Huge weekly dilutions were always going to decimate price

moronmonday526

Someone owes me $500, and they keep asking me where to Venmo it. I'm just going to take them to a Bitcoin ATM when I see them next week.

Joe61944

Paper gold markets force delivery one way or another. So the price is really a reflection of spot demand regardless. You are also discounting the impact of the retail craze for bullion in China and India, now Australia as well. Their is a supply deficit ATM.

oachkatzalschwoaf

Bad: ATM my initial investment is only 690% up

Emergency_Yoghurt690

comment acheter bitcoin et rester sous le radar de sa femme et de l'état ? je pensais avec du liquide sur ATM bitcoin en Espagne ou en suisse , y'a mieux ?

Moth_LovesLamp

More just avoiding KYC in general. I REALLY don't want to send any documents. I've looked into Bisq but it was too confusing. Spike to Spike allows me to pay using physical money with an ATM where I live.

theabominablewonder

Bitcoin shop with ATM, merchandise, books, etc, with referrals on to a multi sig provider like Casa or other financial service providers/advisors (referral commissions can be a decent sum). Set up lightning network payments with a discount for merch purchases. Then trial stuff like refund mechanisms. Use the physical store presence to invite local businesses and get them onboard, offer seminars or training or other stuff like using your lightning node. Depends where you are based though as legal requirements are going to be different in each country.

repomies69

The banks are really irrelevant, really. They start loving BTC at the instant moment when they invent some way to skim fees from their customers with it. Like Blackrock did 180 degree turnaround after the ETF launch. The bankers and the companies running these ATMs are pretty much the same. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if some bank buys these ATM operators at some point.

repomies69

These ATM operators are worse than banks, LOL. My bank squeezes me on the FX fees but not at this level

Redline65

Probably the closest you could get is to use a non-KYC ATM in another country to get local currency. But those ATMs screw you so bad on the conversion you might be better off just paying your taxes. It’ll keep you out of prison too.

SloppyP1zza

Interesting take. I can’t walk a shopping mall without seeing a crypto ATM. Computer at work shows Bitcoin market movement daily. Gas stations allow you to pay in bitcoin. Majority of my friends have held bitcoin previously or currently hold it. Maybe it’s not mainstream but to say it’s far from mainstream, you’re kidding yourself.

DaddyDontTakeNoMess

Thats a good argument. And I'll be the first to tell you that I havent done all the work on Chainlink specifically from the tokenomics side (ive done development with it). But i've been in this game for 3 cycles, and I've learned that "use" doesn't mean "positive price action". Crypto, outside of BTC is largely like a fashion show. Some coins are trendy and attractive, others are like bell bottoms, that went out of style, though they are being used. How many times have we heard "this token is being used for this now", but there was not rise in price? It's frustrating when deals are bieng made and projects gain momementum (over multiple years), but still can't get back to ATM, meanwhile BTC has done a 3-4x over the same time period.

Over_Reputation_8801

The ATM machine grilled you?

holyknight00

As long as btc is not recognized as currency, it won't be easy to deal with. Imagine getting a taxable event every time you got to the ATM for groceries.

NixAName

If you've never declared you own it on taxes, then as long as the ATM doesn't require ID. I can't see how they would find out. That being said,nothing is impossible.

NixAName

Or you can withdraw it at a cash ATM and use it for living expenses, holidays, liabilities and fun.

PrinceWhoPromes

Bitcoin ATM but the fees are crazy. Or have a friend send you some and give them a tip

empanadaboy68

You should've used a Bitcoin ATM so u didn't have to pay taxes, but paying a mortgage down with cash will get the IRS at your doorstep anyways. Nice luck! 

terp_studios

If someone gifted you a stock and you wanted to sell it, you sign up for an exchange, connect your bank account, sell the stock and transfer to your bank. It’s the same with bitcoin. Sign up for a reputable exchange, this depends on why country you’re in. Connect your bank account, sell the bitcoin and transfer to your bank. It’ll probably take a few business days or a week in total. You have to go through identity verification for any reputable exchange. There are a few more options like a bitcoin ATM depending on where you are. This will come with extremely high fees.

CapitalIncome845

You can Mine. You can Go to a bitcoin ATM. Don't be a broke cheap-ass beggar.

Clean-Captain9933

Algorand is an underrated beast ATM

Oldfamilyguy

He can use the BTC ATM at the town well.

Significant_Grab_173

Not any single Bitcoin change/ATM at any city around you? That can save you on fees if you go there once a month or two to buy bitcoin straight from your country currency.

NorthComparison4356

FIAT finance system with all its infrastructure (ATM machines etc.) burn about 5 times more energy. And Internetporn burns as much energy as bitcoin does….so this energy argument is useless….

rekun88

Easiest is probably Bitcoin ATM, or physical Bitcoin storefronts, which exist in most big cities across the world. Most have no KYC under $1000 or some similar threshold, and you can cash out slowly to cover regular expenses/spending. Downside is it'll probably cost you 7-10% in fees when doing so in such small amounts. Or, you can just HODL for a few more years in hopes that Bitcoin adoption will mean you can spend it in restaurants, travel, etc. Or just spend it on escorts and/or drugs.

Erocdotusa

Give us a break on the ATM man. Bmnr needs time to grow

Dr-Mumm-Rah

"Please insert one kidney into the ATM."

freakythrowaway79

Yeah, the media is coming down hard on the BTC grifting. Especially with these scam BTC ATM machines that are taking elderly folks $$. They finally ripped out the 1 at my local Cumbys store.

DreamingTooLong

Here’s the easiest thing you can do with that 40K earning nothing in interest Open a Fidelity cash management account and just let it sit in the USD balance They will give you 2.2% APY for doing nothing You’ll get about $65 or $70 in interest of every month with $40,000 You can also purchase bitcoin inside Fidelity cash management and they give you the option to transfer it out to a hardware wallet or receive from a hardware wallet. They also give you a debit card and they refund the fees at every ATM worldwide. 24/7 Customer Care but they will charge a fee to buy or sell assets over the phone. Mutual funds, you can buy and sell over the phone without any fee though. Mutual funds are great for a child’s college fund. That’s what my parents did for me and my sisters when we were little. They are very low risk and they earn more than a CD.

GodSigmaGigaChad

It's not about stealing ETFs, it's about actually owning the asset. The whole point of Bitcoin is to be decentralized, not tied to banks. That's literally the appeal. Peer to peer transactions. But if you want remain tied to a bank by all means. They might not steal it but they could stop you from selling at an all time high. If you can't remember a 6 digit pin, you know a pin that you would use on you're own phone, bank ATM then that's a you problem. Plus someone would need to physically steal your hardware wallet AND know the password to make any transactions. If you have your seed phrase, you can restore it. It just sounds like you don't believe in the asset and want a quick payout.

Gubbie99

I think he might be correct. Millions of ETH is shorted ATM… what happens when institutions and traders buy back? If ETH suddenly nears new ATH we have liquidations of bears and hype like no other and alt season kicking in for a short while. If ETH jumps to $4700 now, forcing buyback of 10m ETH across various of defi platforms and CEX the momentum would keep going onwards. But hey… who knows? If people don’t buy price will decline. It’s just a question of how much discount people want. Buy low, sell high or buy high, sell low. It’s a free market so ppl will do what they want with their money. 🤷‍♂️

noctecaelum77

I bought MSTR near ATM last year. This here is a walk in the park.

Terhonator

Convertibles are not the game anymore. It is about fixed income for now. And common stock ATM.

ingolius

ATM with high fees but without KYC.

KeyCombination1802

Silver , palladium , gold , anything is better than this shit ATM

el_rico_pavo_real

Good ol Strategy only tapping the ATM when mNAV is accretive.

FastPenguin-7

Find a crypto ATM you can use to use cash to buy and directly deposit in your non custodial wallet app.

maly_krtecek

You can buy crypto through BTC ATM and use non custodial wallet how is that not anonymous

louieAPL20

2008 over here and saw an article about, didn’t understand how or where to buy it at the time, YEARS go buy and I see a Bitcoin ATM in a mall, I stick the last couple bucks I have into the machine it prints out a QR code on lottery paper I stick it in my wallet and forget about it, it’s 2025 and I recall having 4-5 Bitcoin on a QR code made of lottery paper…..

TwitchyArtist

I have no intention of actually investing ATM just getting ready to invest after the real crash plus right now I'm practicing for the real thing. Just bought a margin order on eth 10x leverage with $5 so I guess I might loose $5

elise96nl

I don't know anything about crypto or stocks. I'm here because my x timeline is full of crybabies losing money's. So I had to Google this thing called cross margin. Sounds like the dumbest thing ever. Is it like playing blackjack in a casino? But instead of only losing what you bought in chips. The casino is allowed to beat you up, and two big muscle guys accompany you to the nearest ATM to take money you didn't really wanted to bet. Because you have a 15 in a row losing streak?

UnusualWoodpecker466

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jwz9904

crypto is Trump's 24 hours ATM via hyperliquid.

crytpotyler

Dont expect crypto to be what it was. Trump ruined it. He and his are using it like an ATM when they want to.

heartbreakcity

That's just how that particular bitcoin ATM worked? I think they were still pretty new, then. I was at that conference, used the exact same machine, and got the same sort of paper wallet. The buy price was a little higher than actual value, but that's how basically every bitcoin ATM works.

AussieSjl

BTC gains value independent of fait. Scarcity and desireablility will ensure it will appreciate over time. ATM it is still a long-term investment, but soon it will appreciate much quicker as more people get on board.

omniumoptimus

Crypto ATM is more profitable across time.

Whole-Philosophy3727

$125.1k per coin USD ATM. Sweet dreams everyone

budmanm3

Gas station ATM

seambizzle1

Depends where you live If you’re in the US that has a global banking system and an ATM at every corner and a government that won’t confiscate you’re money for no reason and don’t have local gangs or tribes or corrupted politicians going to your house to steal it then yes, people are more inclined to hold bitcoin then spend If you’re living somewhere in Africa that has zero global banking system. No ATMs. No way to safely store your money. And constantly worrying about an inept government that doesn’t care about its citizens or currency and will cause hyperinflation just to make their leader look good. Or having to worry about local gangs running up in ur house to steal cash and gold, then yes. These people will be using bitcoin to save and purchase things It’s all about perspective

No_Investigator3369

Both. Do you have any e-trade account? I literally have an ATM card. I can sell mine that's sitting on the exchange and then pull dollars out. There's fees obviously involved. But I'm not going to do it without making a profit of course.

YoungScholar89

They report ATM activity each week and the numbers you mention from last week was when they had to pay dividends for all their preferreds (3 of which only pay on a quarterly basis). So hardly representative.

Lwilliams8303

It's no longer the "new investment" medium it once was when the rest of the world began adopting it. So the fomo excitement is gone for the moment. Also, people have much bigger things to worry about than Bitcoin ATM. Now when it starts getting closer to 150k-200k it will wake up again and people will start buying high and selling low again. No worries.

CipherScarlatti

Another ATM (All-time 'meh').

AccomplishedView4709

You never heard of ATM processing fee? If you use a non bank ATM overseas, many more fees will be tagged along.

IamCharlotteDubois

Yeah, running a Bitcoin ATM isn’t as easy or profitable as people think. Been keeping an eye on bitMachina here in Ottawa since 2019. They’ve managed to stick around by offering a few different ways to buy and being pretty clear about how it all works. Not perfect, but better than most.

Nick700

They're talking about the ATM fee which gets added to each transaction and it's more like $2.50 not $7

willzyx01

This isn't remotely the same though. If you a foreign ATM, you will absolutely get hit with a processing fee on the backend (unless your bank refunds it).

dunndone

In the UK for most ATM’s there are 0 processing fees.

Engineerofdata

Ya, if the ATM is out of network then it is a $5 fee.

FeathersOfTheArrow

Americans really pay a fee on ATM? tf 😂

asselfoley

I took $100 from the ATM, but only $93 came out. WTF?

Amber_Sam

You're looking for a Bitcoin ATM (coinradar), or a P2P like BISQ, robosats, hodlhodl, peachbitcoin or vexl.

adrianbowden

Depends on where you are or what you’re looking for. If you use brokers you won’t get actual bitcoin. Minimum what you want is an exchange like either Kraken/Coinbase/Binance buy it and send it to a wallet like BlueWallet or something or you can go deeper and start your own node and either mine it or buy it at an ATM or in person so you have no digital trace back to your identity

Swapuz_com

Mining isn’t an ATM — it’s a margin game, not magic.

IvanTechnoOp

Most of the actual usage of bitcoin I actually see irl is people buying drugs. That should be legalized, ofc, in my opinion, but the point stands. You walk by a bitcoin ATM at night and you can see a typical "investor" showing signs of heavy heroin abuse while trying to stuff notes with shaking hands (maybe I'm too pessimistic and that's just what bitcoin does to maxis, lol, but I don't think it's that bad - don't do heroin please). Regular folks meanwhile are fine sending each other dollar-backed stables (I think the main difference is just that you have to kyc when exchanging stables otc but bitcoin can be bought and sold anonymously at bitcoin ATMs - price volatility and transaction fees/delays is annoying but still better than going to jail, you just offload it quickly enough so that price doesn't change much and it's just like paying fiat with ~10% fee on top)

Anxious-Barnacle-799

I set up a joint savings with my daughter. We use the same bank. When I need to send her money, I put it in that account and she has immediate access to that money to transfer to her account or withdraw at an ATM. Your dad could do the same. Another option is to not rely on anyone except yourself for support. My parents were poor, and my dad told my brother and I that he has no means to help, so we better get good jobs and make good decisions with our money. Bitcoin is a good investment, but sending money causes taxable gains and tax liabilities. Until the laws change this, it isn’t the best way for people to make payments.