STRK

HSuke

Oh. Now you're asking the smart questions and going down the misleading BPS metric rabbit hole. BPS is calculated as: (Total BTC) / (Assumed Diluted Shares Outstanding) Diluted shares includes convertible debt, so paying that off increases BPS. The problem with BPS is that it doesn't account for cash reserves or for preferred shares (except for the convertible STRK). It also doesn't account for BTC price. It's a misleading metric that can be manipulated. For example, they can keep selling and diluting STRC, and it just increasing BPS, which is why BPS is currently increasing. https://np.reddit.com/r/MSTR/comments/1thtje5/the_measuring_problem/ https://x.com/thelogman/status/2053156489422848062

BitcoinBaller420

a note to the zeitgeist... days like this can feel down, when nobody wants to hear what you have to say even though it's not that much different than yesterday when they loved it. I finally got around to looking at the liquidity today. WSJ says everybody finally realized the Strait is still closed? lol ok. I see buying opportunity across the board, but especially in Bitcoin. Why? Because rates will fall, UBI will come, printing presses will come, and Bitcoin will benefit the most from the global realization that US retail is not the foundation for Bitcoin's support any more. Strategy / credit market buying is big deal that will be more than obvious in a year. I like my position, I like my trade, I like my execution decisions. I am surprised at the STRK selloff, I'll need to think about that some more (if there is anything to find, random walks are random at times) but from a fair value perspective, I just hold and consider buying more. It's just an even more incredible deal today as Mr. Market is clearly drunk again. Tomorrow is another day.

BitcoinBaller420

Following up quickly on my manic liquidity rant yesterday with a much calmer Friday... I quickly look at the farm post-STRC-singularity and see... meh that kinda sucked in some ways. Seems like once-again STRC was the place to be, even the market did also make it clear I was right not to think holding STRC was not going to work out the way these div-flippers think, even though STRK div-flippers are given a golden chance to sneak a div and be pumped that their STRK-per-share went up when they buy back in, luck bastards... Overall, considering the short-term markouts were stellar, and I gave a long-term plan over the next two weeks up front, I give myself an B. Not bad but plenty to learn from this about what I need to build to automate this process. My call on the total STRC was off, but qualitatively not bad, and could look a lot better when the Strategy report comes out... we see if Clarity passes soon, etc. Plenty to leave room for randos to doubt my power, but also, markouts don't lie, the execution was really strong, bottom line at the close showed it too. We'll judge the STRK later, as the market is clearly daring me to hold STRK for a couple weeks. But the flows again are dumb imo, and while it's true the market can be irrational longer than I can remain solvent... I can remain solvent for a *really* long time at these leverage levels. I just want STRK more which means I like my portfolio exactly where it stands. Heavy Bitcoin capital with a sensible risk-spectrum of allocation that is risk-on, light credit, and Bitcoin-only in existential exposure, heavy risk-on with 100% STRK, and light GLD, TSLA, etc. some other fun things in the mix at smaller percentages. I decide my next step is to touch grass for two weeks, maybe check in now and then to see if Mr. Market is doing anything dumb as they are quite prone to do. Thanks for watching, see you then. edit: grade myself more humbly, **A-** becomes a **B**... gotta give more weight to the miss that STRK would be especially good vs the Bitcoin pref community on exactly this day, and missed, even if my strategy recognized the uncertainty correctly and (maybe) still got it right. Time will tell, we can adjust later as we get more data. No shame in being wrong, seek the truth, Know Thyself.

BitcoinBaller420

update! I go to throw another \~4 BTC of buying demand in for STRK as I try to finish establishing this long-term position. Market is like $76.06 by $76.28 at this point. I queue up an order to place at like 76.10 because I want to get filled but maybe only if the market will come to me now. As I go to place, what do I see but some kind soul has reached across the spread to place a sell at 76.12. So I don't nickel-and-dime this soul, I just place my order at $76.12, fill them, thank them kindly, and also pat the HFT boys that tried to step in front of us and take fills at 10c and 11c and say thanks for the liquidity boys, good luck turning a profit on those fills. Currently setting the global bid in this product at $76.12 for size, hoping for STRK holders to sell to me as they grab STRC and make their bid for an overnight bid capture. Suckers.

BitcoinBaller420

update! The gods shine upon us with a huge fill by taking the rest, we are now long about 4 BTC of STRK at $76.29. Normally when a retail investor gets filled like this, it's bad news for them, but the markets shine on us and we're up 15 bps on our buys in the short-term markouts. To give you an idea, 3 bps / day is about 10% / year which is what capital markets work and slave to try to generate as a return of capital. lol suckers. So much easier to just offer liquidity to retail investors who can't do math and are predictably herd-like in their decisions. Not that I'm overly worried about short-term markouts, we are establishing long-term positions here. But if you're one of those "why does it always go down after I buy" types, it's probably because in part because you're a whiny bitch who can't see good luck in their lives if it smacked them in the face, and part because your execution sucks. Watch and learn.

BitcoinBaller420

update - I move my order to the offer at $76.29 and as expected get tons of price improvement in the void between, getting lots of probably-HFT fills at $76.28 let's go thanks for the free execution bps and good luck turning a profit on that boys there is plenty of buying demand left behind it. I'd have done better to just smash the offer again 2 hours ago, but c'est la vie I'm ok with it, still hope markets go more insane and give me free buying power at the close. We picked up roughly 1/2 BTC of STRK and are now setting the global equity market bit for the product at $76.29, which sounds impressive until you realize it's nothing but a bunch of retail yoloers around here... genius INTJs no doubt, but not professional traders they get so screwed on execution it's crazy.

BitcoinBaller420

Noon update. I give you doofuses a head start out of kindness and you sell off STRK? lol too funny. Just swept the offer for over 1 BTC worth of STRK, looking for more today. Will retail please sell it off again for me is it too much to ask I love this game.

BitcoinBaller420

**tl;dr - markets are stupid and Bitcoin is ridiculously underpriced** Here's what happens next. STRC has its first $2 billion day today, and Strategy is the primary seller. This weekend, Bitcoin continues to go up as Strategy deploys these new funds into spot. By Monday, the world realizes that Saylor is seriously not selling MSTR common, when Strategy releases their weekly sales / purchases and there is 0 MSTR on there vs $2.5b+ in Bitcoin, despite nice premiums available, Bitcoin strength, and juicy mNAV for the taking. Bitcoin per share soars in just 1 week, and the mNAV starts looking stupidly low. Strategy eventually starts tapping the ATM at a much higer immediate profit, and this efficiency just pours more jet fuel on the fire as the greatest short-squeeze in world history begins to take shape over the next year, driven by credit market demand for STRC's high-return-on-very-low-risk-tax-deferred asset qualities. Right after that, the Clarity Act will be passed, and Strategy will quickly announce at least one partnership with a major bank to realize their dream to back a 0-vol money-market USD account with Bitcoin as the backing collateral. The US bank savings deposit base immediately becomes much more accessible to start moving into Bitcoin, now with regulations and approvals to the highest levels, and guidance from advisors these people have trusted for decades. That's yet another big deal in the future demand curve for Bitcoin (not to mention a huge win for the everyman facing an impossible battle with a 0% savings account that leaks 5%+ buying power every year). I went balls deep yesterday, I'll be in there picking up some deals on the 3-month prefs today. STRK imo is stupidly under-priced right now.... 10% ROC and I get a perpetual call on leveraged-Bitcoin?! What are we talking about here. I'll be on the bid side again today, see you there.

kh56010

You didn’t need to listen to a hour long interview. You could’ve looked at the two page 8937 statement that’s been on their website since august for STRC or for over a year for STRK. Or basically any of his 7 minute interviews on any mainstream media where he says it is ROC dividends. Anyone buying any stock without reading the filings available shouldn’t be investing at all.

yefuck

I’m nearing 50% crypto exposure. It’s not all BTC though it’s a combination of crypto related stocks, BTC, a few alts (small allocation), STRK, etc. It’ll likely be 80-90% if and when we leg up.

TERPYFREDO

on point 2, STRK kinda does that automatically

KateR_H0l1day

1. STRF (Series A Perpetual Strife Preferred Stock): The most senior preferred share, designed to be overcollateralized with lower volatility, often considered similar to investment-grade securities. 2. STRC (Variable Rate Series A Perpetual Stretch Preferred Stock): A unique, high-yield flagship series with a dividend rate that adjusts monthly to keep the share price near $100. 3. STRK (8% Series A Perpetual Strike Preferred Stock): The only convertible series, with each share convertible into 0.1 shares of MSTR common stock, positioned between STRF and STRD in risk. 4. STRD (10.00% Series A Perpetual Stride Preferred Stock): The most junior preferred stock, sitting directly above MSTR common stock in the capital structure.

rechtim

Buy STRC or STRK and call it a day

dj_destroyer

If you think a Bitcoin treasury company is the same as an ETF, you haven't been paying attention. Take an excerpt from a previous post of mine: "-Common Stock (MSTR): Used extensively through "At-the-Market" (ATM) programs, this is the most volatile, high-growth equity, offering leveraged exposure to Bitcoin. This is highly accretive to existing shareholders when MSTR trades at a premium to its Bitcoin holdings. \-STRK (Convertible Preferred): Offers an 8% annual dividend and can convert into common stock at a premium ($1000 per share), targeting investors looking for income with potential equity upside. \-STRF (Income-Focused Preferred): A 10% fixed dividend preferred stock designed for income-seeking investors, lacking the conversion feature. \-STRD (High-Yield Preferred): A 10% non-cumulative preferred, carrying higher risk for investors seeking maximum yield. \-STRC (Variable Rate Preferred): A newer "Stretch" preferred, often providing high, variable yields designed to compete with money market funds while funding further Bitcoin purchases." Sure, if Bitcoin drops to $10k for a sustained period of time, the music stops -- but as my girlfriend Lyn Alden says: nothing stops this train. Bitcoin has no top because fiat has no bottom. Finite scarcity blah blah blah

repomies69

And MSTR has a convertible Instrument, STRK or somethin, that generates dividend income but also captures some of the upside if BTC starts skyrocketing

Similar_Scar7089

Never trade your bitcoin. Have you considered STRK? When you think the price is overheated buy some ratio of btc and STRK?

Zigxy

STRD doesn’t dilute. Only STRK is convertible and that doesn’t happen unless common shares go over $1000. But what I’m trying to say is that STRD is deep into junk territory with those yields… clearly a sign that not a lot of folks are interested.

AnnHashaway

Agreed, it is hard to understand the financial structure and that's why I think there is still an edge to be had. Information asymmetry. That being said, the only thing I'm interested in is STRK. I think over a very long time horizon the common will do well, but its the relief valve when they need or want cash. There is no limit to the total dilution, even if their goal is increasing BTC per share. If you think of Strategy almost like their own central bank, MSTR common is basically their currency, and they can issue as much as they need. Back to STRK. The dividend is fixed at 8%, which becomes 10% when buying at $80, and gets better as the price goes down. The fixed interest provides upwards pressure as the share price decreases and the interest rate rises. At the same time, you can still participate in the long-term blow-off thesis due to the convertibility at $1,000 (10 to 1). I've owned STRK from the beginning, and have added to it every time its below $80. When the price goes up, great. When it goes down, I'm earning 10%+ while I wait for bitcoin to do the long-term thing I think it will. The primary risk is the entirety of Strategy blowing up, but I still see that as low probability. While everyone has watched their MSTR drop by 75%, my STRK is down a couple dollars on average, and each share pays me $2 every three months. It's a long way of saying I believe the best risk/reward in Strategy is actually outside the common stock. STRK wins in either direction, as long as they stay in business.

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AI Long Answer: +7 STRC (often referred to as "Stretch") is a  Variable Rate Series A Perpetual Preferred Stock issued by Strategy Inc. (formerly known as MicroStrategy, MSTR). Launched in July 2025, this instrument is designed as a high-yield, income-focused asset that aims to maintain a stable share price around a $100 par value, effectively operating as a Bitcoin-backed "stablecoin" or cash-alternative with high, variable dividends.  Key Characteristics of STRC: High Yield with Monthly Payouts: STRC pays a high variable annual dividend, often in the 10%-11% range as of late 2025, which is paid monthly. Price Stability Mechanism: The dividend rate is adjusted monthly by Strategy's board to encourage the trading price to stay near $100. If the price falls below $100, the dividend may be increased to attract buyers; if it rises above $100, the dividend might be decreased. Bitcoin-Backed: The proceeds from the sale of STRC are used by Strategy to purchase Bitcoin. The stock is intended to be heavily over-collateralized by the company's significant Bitcoin holdings. Perpetual Structure: As a perpetual preferred stock, it has no maturity date, meaning it does not need to be redeemed by the company at a specific time, though it is callable at $101. Capital Stack Position: STRC is considered a senior security compared to the company's common stock (MSTR) and other more junior preferred shares (STRD, STRK), but it sits below debt holders.  Risks and Considerations: No FDIC Insurance: Unlike bank deposits or money market funds, STRC is not insured by the FDIC. Variable Dividends: The income is not guaranteed and can change monthly based on the board's decisions and market conditions. No Hard Peg: While designed to stay near $100, it is not guaranteed to remain at that price, and it can fluctuate. Exposure to Bitcoin: While providing high yield, it is tied to the success of Strategy’s Bitcoin accumulation strategy. 

Gotglo

Unfortunately the corrupted US govt is here to control and deceive us like clockwork just like how they are being controlled. Alot of US politicians have dual citizenship and pledge allegiance to another country if y’all didnt know. This is why privacy coins have already been a hot topic and will continue to be. Please don’t not call me antisemitic this is truth and reality that all US infrastructure is controlled for the gain of themselves and to the elites they send money to, to avoid getting blackmailed. Some notable relations in crypto: -Barry Silbert: Founder and CEO of Digital Currency Group (DCG), a major investment firm in the space. Charlie Shrem: Early Bitcoin entrepreneur, founder of BitInstant, and a key figure in Bitcoin's early days. -Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF): Founder of FTX, a major (though now defunct) crypto exchange, who has a Jewish background. -David Sacks: A prominent Jewish venture capitalist and PayPal COO, named "White House A.I. and Crypto Czar" for the Trump administration. -Rabbi Michael Caras (@thebitcoinrabbi): A Chabad rabbi who connects Bitcoin and Jewish law (halacha), bridging the two communities online. -ETH - Ethereum Co-founder Joseph Lubin, a Jew, previously worked in finance at Goldman Sachs. He single-handedly created ConsenSys, building MetaMask, Infura, these foundational tools for Ethereum. In simple terms: ETH is the 'water, electricity, and coal' of the crypto world. Regardless of whether it rises or falls, you still need to use it; it’s the legitimate child of the military. -WLD coin Founder Sam Altman, the big guy who previously worked at OpenAI, a Jew with an extraordinarily strong background. -Founder Eli Ben-Sasson, one of the pioneers of Zcash's zero-knowledge proofs, from Israel, really knowledgeable in cryptography. STRK is an L2 project, specializing in ZK technology, using mathematical methods that allow you to verify without revealing details. -Solana Founder Anatoly, previously an engineer working on chips at Qualcomm. The investor lineup is very fierce: Multicoin, A16z, and David Sacks (a Jew), one of the PayPal Mafia. -XRP - Ripple Founders Chris Larsen and Jed McCaleb, with a lot of early money from the old financial sector, including funds like A16z. Although the SEC has been chasing lawsuits for two years, it just won't die. Why? Because there are people backing it up, it's really not something a regular small project can compare with. -Donald J Trump The current US President has expressed strong support and took significant actions solidifying the U.S.-Israel relationship, including recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. Embassy, recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, increasing military aid, and challenging Iran, fulfilling campaign promises that demonstrated deep commitment to Israel's security and interests.

DarthBen_in_Chicago

Yep. I confused it with STRK.

Low_Date1078

All in on “STRK” - down 50% since I bought it 📈🚀 #1 Regard 👈🏼

DanDan123crypto

If you are just sending EUR to EURe and spend to get cashback then yes. If you use crypto instead of stablecoins/fiat then the situation is very different. Although the user experience there is not great in the apps/setup. Side note, if you pay on Starknet, Starknet will give you STRK equivalent to the card fee as well as additional cashback. Plus if you enable BRRR as cashback instead of USDC it is 1% cashback. And this is without any token staking requirements. https://holyheld.com/faq/hot-topics/starknet-x-holyheld-collaboration

DanDan123crypto

If you are a penny pincher, and €29 for account opening is a lot, then you should check slippage you are being charged on gnosis chain when swapping from Eth to EURe for example. Also no cap or limitations on Holyheld cashback, it's in USDC, and no requirement to hold any tokens to get cashback. There is currently also added cashback in STRK and BRRR tokens. Gnosis Pay you will probably never get the 4% cashback. Holyheld is a premium service, if you have used both, you would see why it is worth it. The app is the best designed in crypto imo

HSuke

MSTR is designed to bleed out to their new preferred shares stocks (STRK, STRF, STRC) in a bear market. It's only going to get worse.

TvAGhost

No, but it is a possible source of cash absolutely. It's the same thing as MSTR and STRK.

HSuke

I'm more concerned that they are canabalizing MSTR with their preferred shares (STRC, STRK). It has gotten too complex.

GettingFasterDude

Saylor's jargon isn't the language of bitcoin. It's the language of tradfi banking, which bitcoin was invented to obsolete. The "digital-yield digital-credit" mumbo jumbo is that it's a way for someone else to take possession of your bitcoin and make you think you're winning. iBIT/FBTC/GBTC = someone else possessing your bitcoin MSTR/STRC/STRK = someone else possessing your bitcoin MARA = someone else possessing your bitcoin Bitcoin left on Binance/Coinbase/Kraken/Bitfinex = someone else possessing your bitcoin wBTC/cbBTC = someone else possessing your bitcoin Be like Satoshi. Hold your keys. Stay quiet. Stack sats.

BitcoinBaller420

STRD: 1.25b notional @ 10% = $125m / year. Strategy is not obligated to pay the dividend. STRK: $1.4b notional @ 8% = $112m / year. Strategy is not obligated to pay the dividend. STRC: $3b notional @ 10.5% = $315m / year. Strategy can defer paying dividends for a long time at a very low interest rate STRF: $1.25b notional @ 10% = $125m / year. Strategy can defer paying dividends for a long time at a very low interest rate. Strategy has a stack of $56b in bitcoin to make these payments. Your sky-is-falling assessment of Strategy's financial situation is pure FUD.

BitcoinBaller420

STRK is great, I own this as well. But my point is that many people are interested in safe, low-volatility buying power appreciation. Bitcoin-backed bonds are perfect for this. Interest rates are very high relative to the amount of risk actually taken, which will cause growth in demand. This means as Bitcoin appreciates in value, Strategy and others are going to find eager buyers for these bonds for the forseeable future. These sales in turn create more demand for Bitcoin. We are on the tip of an enormous fixed income iceberg of capital that will unlock into Bitcoin over time.

harvested

Hello fellow bull. Agree with all this except, I think the product you might be looking for is STRK as that has the most upside if bitcoin does well (you mentioned 200K so I know you're bullish long term). The other 3 are more fixed income, great rate don't get me wrong, but limited upside. And it course if you're mega bull you can just get MSTR because mNAV is already pretty compressed, hard to see it going too much lower but who knows. There's also the possibility he'll have to sell some bitcoin to cover payouts, this was always part of the thesis I think, but it will probably freak people out and you'll see "omg Saylor is dumping". Just my 2 sats anyway. Good luck buddy.

Flashy-Finger-8600

Also, with Saylor’s Strategy offering preferred stock products with STRK, STRF, STRD and now STRC offering 10% yield, if I was Jamie Dimon and my bank was only offering 1.5% interest on my savings , I’d be more than a little worried about this as he definitely feels threatened. It’s tradfi colliding with defi. This battle is just getting started boys. Grab some popcorn 🍿

Puzzman

Going off [https://www.strategy.com/](https://www.strategy.com/) They got $8.2 Billion in debt, first batch of $1.01B due in 2028 (can be forced to payout in 2027), average interest rate 0.5% STRD Preferred stock $1.255B issued at 10% STRK Preferred stock$1.4B issued at 8% STRC Preferred stock $3B issued at 10.50% STRF Preferred stock $1.3B issued at 10% STRE Preferred stock $0.7B (USD) issued at 10% So thats a total of $8.8B at roughly 10% So they need close to 1 Billion a year for interest and preferred stock dividends. Based on their current holdings (and current Bitcoin price) is a 2% dilution required. So effectively its just a really expensive Bitcoin ETF atm. No idea how they are going to raise more money to buy bitcoin. But also can't see them getting into real trouble until the first bonds become due.

Selmemasts

I get what you are coming from, it’s difficult to make sense of all the rather complex information. The dividends are not paid on their bitcoin holdings, they are being paid on the $8b in credit, STRD, STRK, STRF, STRC and STRE.

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[This is the thread & request that got me started if you want context.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/s/ViWrqdDCRO) “Combined value of liabilities and shares” is a total of the value of the Total Liabilities line item plus the value of the preferred shares (think I just used STRK marketcap). This was first calculated in USD value and then for each period I divided that value by the closing price of BTC the day that the reporting period closed to figure out the BTC value of that debt plus preferred shares. Separately, once total BTC holdings/common shares was calculated I subtracted the BTC value that represented the combined debt + preferred shares to get a “true” value for BTC underlying each share based on my understanding of the original request. Simpler Version: The initial request that I was playing with wanted to see the BTC per share and wanted to see the result if we subtracted total liabilities & preferred shares. Primary reason it’s important is just because I was trying to throw together the view OP in the original post had asked for. Regarding the liabilities line itself, a company has three categories on the balance sheet: assets (cash, BTC holdings, equipment, etc) which are used to generate revenue on the left hand side. Then on the right we have liabilities (this is the borrowed debt/financing) plus equity (invested capital). Ratios like assets/liabilities (debt to assets ratio) and similar are generally used as a metric for understanding how leveraged a company is and is useful in considering risk as well as how effectively a company is utilizing debt to drive revenue. MicroStrategies has recently begun issuing preferred shares (fixed dividends & priority to be paid in event of liquidation but no voting rights) in addition to common shares. I believe the original request’s logic was to see 1) how much BTC exposure an investor receives per share and 2) how much exposure is there after accounting for debt & the issuance of preferred shares. Presumably, the goal was to better understand what you are getting when you purchase MSTR vs just buying BTC or a BTC ETF. Going into it, I assumed that MSTR’s accumulation strategy would lead to increasing BTC/share so that over a long period a one-time buy of $10k for example could lead to a larger total exposure than buying $10k worth of BTC & hodling. Assuming I didn’t fudge anything though, this isn’t true as the company is issuing shares far faster than they are accumulating BTC. You would need to account for stock splits but surface level it appears that you need 10x as many shares in 2025 as you did in 2024 to have the same exposure. In other words, people who buy MSTR & hold over time will see their shares backed less by BTC and more by the MicroStrategy reputation as time progresses. Overall takeaway is probably that if you want exposure to BTC then buy BTC or an BTC ETF and stay away from MSTR.

Alive-Morning-8758

I believe that cryptocurrency is like a ticket to Disneyland that not everyone can get. I'm not talking about the financial aspect, but the psychological and moral one. In what other investment world can you get 10-50x your initial investment? I think nowhere else. It's just a matter of strategy, planning, and the ability to wait. When many people enter the cryptocurrency market, they buy and hope that their coin will skyrocket in a couple of days. But in the end, the coin plummets, and they sell it. Take the STRK coin, for example. Let's say the first person bought it for $2 at almost the peak of its price and still holds it to this day, but he has his own strategy and plan for his portfolio. The second person bought it now for $0.13 without a plan and with the hope that it will grow soon. Who has a better chance of making money? I would bet on the first person, because they have already survived all possible declines and will wait until the coin rises to $3 and make their +50%. The second person will not be able to survive the decline of this coin, which is likely to happen, because they wanted to get rich and will simply sell it at a loss. In cryptocurrency, you need a plan, a strategy, patience, and most importantly, you shouldn't look at the charts every day if you only trade on the spot market.

Xollector

This article is so misguided.. Equity = asset - debt You can’t just directly compare its bitcoin holding to its share mcap, especially considering they issued all these preferred convertible STRC, STRK etc etc.

CryptoMeel

I grabbed a couple of shares of MSTR, MSTY (I know, be nice) STRK, STRD, STRC and maybe one other before I even knew what they were. Bags are bleeding but I’m in it for long term😅

Buchkizzle

The analogy I love is an oil refinery taking in crude oil and refining it into petroleum, gasoline, kerosene, etc. MSTR is taking 'crude' digital capital and 'refining' it into different financial instruments (STRK, STRF, etc). The other argument is that since fiat currency depreciates due to inflation, companies don't like to keep cash on their books so they buy back stocks, offer dividends, etc. By keeping the books on a 'bitcoin standard', companies don't have to worry about inflation devaluing whatever cash they have The majority of my position is definitely in bitcoin but I do think mstr having such a large supply of the BTC, as well their financial instruments, gives them a unique leg up. Right now mstr is down heavily but eventually I think it does recover and mstr will have a very important position in the new digital economy

Illustrious-Fox-7082

Anyone looking for less vol would buy their preferred equity instruments. STRC, STRF, STRK

ItWillPrint

Sure. I’m referring to STRC/STRD/STRF/STRK. MSTR doesn’t do a dividend. Which one do you think holds more weight? Bitcoin or the faith and trust of the US Government 🤓 see where this is in 5 years

eman2top

The company, Strategy, plans on paying its **$689 million total annual interest and dividend obligations** primarily through the use of its **Common Equity ATM** (At-The-Market offering) [1, 2]. Strategy emphasizes that it has **"more than sufficient access to liquidity"** to manage its total annual interest and dividend obligations due to its proven track record of capital raising activities [3]. The company feels confident that its ATM will be **"more than supportive"** for all of these dividend obligations [1]. ### Details of the Annual Obligation The total annualized interest and dividend obligations of **$689 million** (as of October 24, 2025) comprise [4, 5]: * **$522 million** in cumulative dividends on preferred equity (STRF, STRC, and STRK) [5]. * **$125 million** in non-cumulative dividends on preferred equity (STRD) [5]. * **$35 million** in interest expense on its convertible debt [5]. The $689 million annual obligation represents a small fraction of the company's financial metrics [2, 3]: * **1.7%** of the **Last Twelve Months (LTM) Total Capital Raised** ($40.4 billion) [2]. * **2.6%** of the **LTM Common Equity Raised** ($26.9 billion) [2]. * **6.1%** of the **Year-to-Date 2025 Operating Income** ($12.0 billion) [2, 6]. * **21.7%** of the **Average Daily Volume (Common Equity Last 30 Days)** ($3.9 billion) [2]. Furthermore, Strategy highlights that its large Bitcoin holdings provide significant coverage for these long-term obligations. With $74 billion in Bitcoin holdings, the company asserts that its assets are sufficient to cover approximately **120 years of its annual preferred dividend needs** at current prices [3].

Elusive007

Can you elaborate on this strategy a bit more? Let's say you have a $1k credit card bill. Do you borrow $1k from a BTC backed loan, then pay down the principal from your paycheck, or let the loan ride and make interest payments from STRK dividends? Do you then open up another loan for the next CC payment? Just curious how the loan part works.

Chris_Apex_NC

I love the MSTR preferred stocks! Go with STRC if you want to minimize price fluctuations. MSTR is down a bit so STRK might be a good choice if it rebounds.

Historical_Candle511

If you go this route, just buy STRK or STRC for the high yield.

BlightedErgot32

BDCs & or CEFs credits having a bad time right know … it might be a good time to DCA some … theres also BTC backed credit … althought thats a little iffy … i have some STRK, but you must know that the $$$ distributions come from diluting common stockholders … so thats why its iffy, cause we know BTC itself doesnt generate any fiat income

Senior-Profit-1626

The answer would reasonably be that to hold specific related information stocks and BTC (Bitcoin Treasury Companies) is to some extent diversified. Ie., I hold MSTR, STRK, CEP, MTPLF, IRIS, CIFR, WULF, BLSH, BMNR, and Gold and Silver,(physical). Maybe some combination for consideration. I hold other things too. Bloom Energy, MARA, HIVE, ARKX, ARKQ to name a few. None of these necessarily stray far yet provide some diversity. AI/Energy is the next five or ten years of innovation and infrastructure development. Holding foundational technologies almost exclusively in the NASDAQ is a great Macro opportunity. FWIW.

umirinbrah29

You are forgetting STRK, STRD, STRC, STRF and any future preferreds. You are dismissing future avenues for yield via BTC banking avenues etc. Put it this way, if mNAV is approx 1.4x, they need to achieve 40%+ BTC yield over the entire life time of the stock, to ensure MSTR outperforms spot bitcoin over the same duration, even if mNAV trended down to 1. 25% yearly accrual I agree is extremely unlikely moving forwards... but 40% over a lifetime? Sounds realistic to me.

harvested

I've told you last time. His ability to buy is based on the demand of his offerings. STRC STRF STRK MSTR

Kie_ra

Before dismissing this completely, let me give you an overview of how this works. If you still have doubts, I'll just fuck off and leave you in your bubble. I pay for everything using credit cards and BTC backed loans. I pay off the CC balance in full as soon as my monthly pay comes in to avoid interest charges. The rest is then split between more BTC DCA that's then sent to cold storage, and purchases of additional STRK shares, generating income and offering downside protection with decent upside potential and steady income that repays BTC loans. Liquadation risk is non-existent as I have stable employment, cash flow, and only a small portion of my stack is used as collateral. I sold my house pre-covid and fully intend to rent for the rest of my life, despite the investment growing so much I could now buy multiple RE. My NW continues skyrocketing and the introduction of STRK has made this strategy not only more effective, but also far safer compared to using MSTY for similar purpose. Basically, borrow and spend a depreciating currency while accumulating an appreciating asset, without ever having to sell or get taxed. No reason to hold any FIAT anymore.

International-Run562

I cannot buy STRC or STRK on margin, only MSTR. I put in $2500 to get $5000 buying power just to check it out. But it won't let me buy STRC on margin. Let me know if I'm doing something wrong or if I need to put more in to be able to buy it

Kie_ra

Literally just buy and hold BTC. That's it. If you want to play around, here's a copypaste of my comment posted elsewhere; >I pay for everything using credit cards and BTC backed loans. I pay off the CC balance in full as soon as my monthly pay comes in to avoid interest charges. The rest goes straight into more BTC DCA that's then sent to cold storage. Outside of my emergency fund, I have no cash anymore. >Some funds are used to purchase additional STRK shares, generating income. I experimented with MSTY but it's not as good for this purpose. STRK offers downside protection with some upside potential and steady income that repays BTC loans and the remainder is reinvested. >Liquadation risk is non-existent as I have stable employment and only a small portion of my stack is used as collateral. >After a few years of learning, nothing else makes sense to me anymore. I do not own any depreciating assets apart from my car or really anything that'd be taking money out of my pocket. I sold my house pre-covid and fully intend to rent for the rest of my life. The freedom this way of life provides is unbeatable and my NW continues skyrocketing while I travel the world. >Basically, borrow and spend a depreciating currency while accumulating an appreciating asset, without ever having to sell and get taxed. Way more efficient than the spend and replace strategy, just slightly more complex.

grajnapc

Naw. 80 year olds generally are advised to very strictly invest only in MSTR and related products like STRK. But seriously, …..

rexaruin

BTC has averaged a 55% CAGR for the last 5 years. If you want yield, check out STRK, STRC, STRF, STRD.

Kie_ra

I pay for everything using credit cards and BTC backed loans. I pay off the CC balance in full as soon as my monthly salary comes in to avoid interest charges. The rest goes straight into more BTC. Outside of my emergency fund, I have no cash anymore. Some funds are used to purchase additional STRK shares, generating income. I experimented with MSTY but it's not as good for this purpose. STRK offers downside protection with some upside potential and steady income that is then reinvested. Liquadation risk is non-existent as I have stable employment and only a small portion of my stack is used as collateral. After a few years of learning, nothing else makes sense to me anymore.

ShavedW00KIE

Just do it bro. Millionaires diversify after making their money. You only have to be right once and your life changes forever. This is the best risk adjusted returns in the world. If you need income do half bitcoin and half STRK preferred stock. Pays 8% a year as a dividend and has some Bitcoin upside.

Confident-Bar-9526

Can someone rate my bags? 50% LINK 12% HBAR 9% ALGO 9% TAO 7% ETH 6% LTC 4% ICP 3% STRK. Planning on selling late 2025. Any input or critiques appreciated!

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processwater

STRC and STRK aren't promising specific returns?

processwater

STRK and STRC don't count?

coojw

What I meant was you could borrow against the btc the. Use the proceeds on STRK. I don’t think I would do that, I’d just get more btc, personally.

ThrasheryBinx

Not quite the same thing, borrowing against your btc is more at the mercy of market swings, whereas the STRK plan would just rely on MSTR not going bankrupt in my lifetime. However, I'm personally doing more of the rolling borrowing as you describe, and would never want to lose my BTC position entirely.

ThrasheryBinx

STRK is microstrategy's convertible preferred share. Simple math is that I expect MSTR to generally 1.5x btc's gains, and STRK to get 1/3 of that upside while paying me a fixed amount that I could plan my life around. So I'd get half as much upside of BTC but with a stable income in perpetuity. However, I could also convince myself that my BTC will go up to 2 million, and if I execute the strategy at that point, i could live on $142,000/year instead. And I think STRK is stable with a great future so long as MSTR doesn't go out of business.

Bertrandazir

Why buying STRK? Is it because you feel it's a strong asset with great future? Or because you think it's stable enough?

ThrasheryBinx

If I wanted to retire on 1 million, I would probably sell the BTC and take the LTCG tax. Then I'd buy $850,000 of STRK, keeping my bitcoin exposure while getting a fixed $71,000/year in dividends forever.

watzk

pfff never sell your BTC buy CEFs (CRF, CLM, special drip at NAV) buy income generators (e.g., ULTY, YMAX, YBTC) buy growth (e.g., SCHG, QQQM) buy MLPs and REITs/mREITs (e.g., ET, USAC, O, MAIN, CSWC, SBR, etc.) buy Strategy preferred (STRK, STRF, STRC) - STRK = Yield Engine - STRF = Stability Layer - STRC = Capital Anchor - STRD = (situational) buy buy buy and hodl after all the years of fancy trading and options trading etc., I have found that these instruments are sufficient and that buy and hold is the best strategy (for me) because it frees up my time but these vehicles still use the same mechanisms I used to trade so now I have more time but keep the yield Accumulation is the name of the game Rebalance when you have opportunities that make sense but accumulate often and sit on it Time in the market beats timing the market Focus on tax strategy Don't follow stupid fads like selling MSTY to buy ULTY just keep hodling the MSTY and ride out the investment while you continue to accumulate elsewhere

OHstBuckeye85

That’s what I’m doing now. However I’m doing a mix of all the preferreds. STRC, STRK, STRD and STRF. I’m not doing 6months, more like 2. Access to Heloc, credit cards, 401k loans, brokerage margin make 6 too much for me.

UnauthorizedGoose

Yep, this is why things such as STRD, STRK, STRF and STRC were created. To create avenues for those restricted pools of capital to move into. Also why treasury companies are a thing.

Personal-Ebb-4717

5. MSTR, STRK, STRF, STRD, STRC. Also they have NO revenue to pay dividend on any of these preffered shares. So they will have to continue issuing new IPO to pay dividend on old IPO and buy more BC. sound familiar.

Personal-Ebb-4717

""Strategy now offers four Nasdaq-listed securities (MSTR, STRK, STRF, STRD), with STRC as its latest addition, reinforcing its capital markets strategy to raise funds for direct Bitcoin acquisition."" STRE, STRG, STRH, ect.... next. this will definitely end well. We are witnessing the biggest ponzi scheme in history in real time.

didnt_hodl

MSTR can simply print more shares and sell them. as long as mNAV is above 1x this trade is accretive. meaning, the BTC per share still increases, even though there are more shares now so far selling shares was the main vehicle. they have invented many others, but those are not as popular or effective. the reason is that their debt does not have a proper credit rating. and the reason for that is credit rating agencies do not know how to properly value the BTC stack that MSTR holds. once that is resolved and once they get some sort of a credit rating, I don't know BB- or something, they will have no problem massively scaling. it's just simple debt, backed by a collateral, a very standard thing. as long as it follows the rules and pays competitive dividends, they can open up a huge market potentially. but so far, no. so far Saylor just prints more MSTR shares and sells them. all other instruments like STRF, STRK, etc are just an asterisk, a rounding error

aaj094

Are we reaching the point where even folks cashing out their crypto gains park their funds in....STRK / STRD / STRF / STRC? That would complete the full circle and create the fiat decimation perpetual machine.

the_ats

It will be an unpopular view, but STRC from MSTR acts like a layer 2 system retrofitted over traditional brokerage accounts that enabled you to Stake worthless Fiat USD in a way that returns worthless Fiat at 9%, paid monthly, which will be attractive to ETFs, any company or hedge funds holding US Treasuries, etc. In exchange, the initial offerings and subsequent ATM offerings of STRC will lock up more BTC forever in a smart contract. The equity growth pays the yield. We know that adding $1 in equity as a purchase reduces supply and drives up the price of all other BTC (and subsequently Alt coins pegged to BTC) by a factor larger than 1. A few hundred million in purchases a few weeks ago pushed us past 113k to 117k and opened the gate higher even though it raises the market cap by billions. That is an efficient use of capital. Tools like STRC, STRD, STRK, and STRF capture TradFi capital and lock away BTC, increasing equity further. If you need monthly cash flow, STRC can replace an easy way to get monthly Fiat, more efficiently than HYSA. And buying and holding it will promote the equity lift of BTC and alts overall.

aaj094

Anyone on this sub who has actually bought any of the MSTR preferred share instruments? STRK, STRF, STRD?

VariatCA

TYSONS CORNER, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Strategy™ (Nasdaq: MSTR; STRK; STRF; STRD) today announced that, subject to market and other conditions, it intends to conduct an initial public offering registered under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”), of 5,000,000 shares of Strategy’s Variable Rate Series A Perpetual Stretch Preferred Stock (the “STRC Stock”). Strategy intends to use the net proceeds from the offering for general corporate purposes, including the acquisition of bitcoin and for working capital. TL;DR - Looks like MSTR is gearing up for another huge round of raising capital.

Generationhodl

STRK would be only good in bearmarkets when you don't want to sell from your stack. but these products like STRK also kind of limits your upside potential. ( Yes I know STRK is convertible to MSTR )

TooFewTulips

I am all about owning real Bitcoin in cold storage, but given the FIRE conversation this may be helpful information. As other users have mentioned here, when you FIRE you don’t sell you stack to sit on cash and bitcoin does not produce yield to live off of (yes, it appreciates tremendously). Some of the products Strategy offers could be a great fit. STRD has >10% yield and STRK has >8% yield and convertibility to MSTR. These products pay yields *in perpetuity!*. There is a lot more detail with the products so DYOR and yes owning Bitcoin yourself is likely the best option for people, but for those seeking traditional FIRE yield income these are great options.

Due_Tree_3959

My market portfolio is 100% Bitcoin and Bitcoin-related stuff (MSTR, OWNB, STRK, MSTY, IBIT, etc)

stevezer0

Check out STRK & STRF 8% and 10% divy and still have some BTC upside as these bonds are being priced at junk when they are 6x more collateralized than typical bonds

the_ats

I didn't say it would. I listed a theoretical BTC Standard, where many equity holders transact on the Blockchain with BTC instead of with a floating variable Fiat currency like dollars or an expanding mineral supply like Gold. Gold is closest. Basically BTC as digital transferable collateral. Not as currency. Iran and Russia already do this to bypass USD sanctions. MSTR via Saylor is already tapping into the Pension market to BTC. The US bond market is one of th asset classes pensions can buy into. STRD, STRF, and STRK are all basically bonds that more income driven firms and investors are buying up by the millions and billions. He doesn't have to just issue more MSTR common stock any more. So that is how it will soak up some market share of equity. I don't think it is far fetched at all to suggest BTC achieves parity with Gold in equity. So you know how much Gold is mined every year? Every day? Every Hour? It is way more than you would expect. That market cap seems content to keep inflating.

ShavedW00KIE

There has never been a better RISK ADJUSTED time to buy Bitcoin. The US government, banks, and Blackrock have all endorsed it as the only digital commodity. I started buying after the ETF got approved. There is no going back from that moment. They aren’t taking an investment vehicle out of the hands of pensions and hedge funds after giving it a green light. Go all in if you can stomach the volatility. If not, buy 0.5 BTC and keep the rest in STRK earning 6.25% dividend with the long term upside of MSTR.

Less-Information-256

>Raised $519M from MSTR, Took money from new investors. >paid the STRK / STRF dividend To pay old investors. What's that called again?

iLov3musk

The purpose of STRD is to trade at a discount to STRK. Who said they were convertible? They are for fixed income investors. STRD carries a 10% non-cumulative coupon and is non-convertible. Crucially, the company can call it at any time, giving Saylor the flexibility to suspend coupon payments during bear markets without accumulating arrears. This feature preserves full upside potential if btc value significantly increases, providing Saylor with complete operational discretion. It's important to note that none of these instruments use specific btc as collateral. Instead, investors receive their yield based on MicroStrategy's overall btc asset coverage, not through secured liens. This arrangement allows investors to gain btc-adjacent yield without breaching fiduciary or regulatory restrictions.

iLov3musk

Ran the MSTR ATM for ONE WEEK Raised $519M from MSTR, paid the STRK / STRF dividend, and still had $472M left over to buy Bitcoin… Preferred Equity > Convertible Bonds

ImOakOrAmI

Do you have access to STRK/STRF? Knocks the socks off 4% for short term savings.

No-Painter4337

Actually much heavier (60%) in MSTR/STRF/STRK/STRD (70/10/10/10), no IBIT, ULTY is in a brokerage account and all the divvy’s get sent to strike, powering a DCA buy daily and subsequently to my hard wallet every .03 BTC or so. Nothing against IBIT, just prefer self custody. MSTR play is core, as a leveraged play.

s1cWid1T

I would buy btc. alternatively, you could buy a MSTR yield product, STRF/STRK keep you principal pay the yield toward principal. You can find all kinds of stuff that yield 4+% all of which is better than returning capital to the bank.

Small_Branch4961

You could do interest only loan, differ principal payment at loan maturation. Or use the 300K loan to buy Strategy's preferred stock STRK 10% cash dividend no expiry. Stock goes up and dividend increases. Your investment pays for itself

Shivaonsativa

Ah good thinking, thanks for the tip. I typed STRK into my current provider and it came up with Microstrategy Inc preferred shares. So I think that's it. Doesn't display STRK anywhere.

Stinky_Pot_Pie

I did something similar with a large portion of my IRA in the US. Is MSTR's STRK available to you? Its a bit lower risk with an estimated 80% of bitcoin upside with only like 10% downside. Im in my 30s as well, this money cant be moved for like 20 years without big penalty so Im hoping the long game works. Easy to have diamond hands in those accounts if there is some big draw downs.

CasualRedditObserver

I'm fully diversified. - BTC - Bitcoin ETF (FBTC) - MSTR - STRK - STRD - STRF - MTPLF

iLov3musk

Don't EVER fade Michael Saylor. The guy accumulated the world's greatest digital mountain of collateral and now has in a matter of months made traditional financial advisors totally obsolete. Want growth? On a risk-adjusted basis, how does anything beat $MSTR? Oh yeah, $STRK is an option. Want more income than any bond exposure can give you? $STRF. Strategy is changing the financial landscape faster than AI is and you continue to doubt this genius trillionaire LMFAO

mikkeltaylor1

Research STRK & STRF that have been developed by Strategy (MSTR). STRK has an 8% dividend and can be bought in an ISA or SIPP through platforms like AJ Bell. Maybe as an alternative to a property?

jawni

>Let’s play the game where you disregard all the stats that don’t help your case (which are widely accepted as useful) and only use the stats that help support your case. What stats have I disregarded that show Cardano getting genuine traction? >If you’re going to take this approach why open your post with: hey guys, no fud, I’m really open minded and just curious actually, can someone help me learn? Because I knew people would be defensive, so I laid it out as objectively as I could. >And then every reply where someone tries to convey information you immediately shoot it down. Link me one single reply where I shot it down unfairly as an example here so I can fix it or explain how it wasn't just me shooting them down. Most replies did exactly what I talking about, they kept pointing back to the same qualities that haven't led to adoption in the previous 8 years, as if that's magically going to change in the next 8 years. So if I shot them down, that would make a ton of sense. If I say "X, Y, and Z, are great qualities, but it doesn't lead to A, B, or C". And then someone replies "Stop fudding it, it has X, Y, and Z. It's really great!" Don't you understand why I would shoot that down? >One has to wonder if Cardano is a ghost chain with no notable development why Santiment just published this: >“🧑‍💻 Here are crypto's top overall coins by notable development activity the past 30 days. Directional indicators represent each project's rank rise or fall since last month: >📈 1) Internet Computer $ICP 🥇 📉 2) Chainlink $LINK 🥈 📉 3) Starknet $STRK 🥉 📉 4) Cardano $ADA” And has that led to **ANY ACTUAL USE OF THE CARDANO BLOCKCHAIN?** Not really. [As Cardano struggles to even get to **ONE** transaction per second.](https://imgur.com/a/KFxpoxQ) So, again, congrats on having the awesome quality of having a lot of github activity(the X, Y, Z) but it hasn't led to any actual usage (the A, B, C). Really, congrats on the github commits that have been pushed, but pushing github commits doesn't sustain a blockchain in the real world. >Haven’t they and Forbes heard the decree from the super open-minded curious guy that the only metric that can possibly matters is fees? Can you pay validators in github commits?

jdickstein

Let’s play the game where you disregard all the stats that don’t help your case (which are widely accepted as useful) and only use the stats that help support your case. If you’re going to take this approach why open your post with: hey guys, no fud, I’m really open minded and just curious actually, can someone help me learn? And then every reply where someone tries to convey information you immediately shoot it down. Why play this stupid game where you pretend to want to learn something when really you’re just a troll? Own your trollness so as not to waste everyone’s time. One has to wonder if Cardano is a ghost chain with no notable development why Santiment just published this: “🧑‍💻 Here are crypto's top overall coins by notable development activity the past 30 days. Directional indicators represent each project's rank rise or fall since last month: 📈 1) Internet Computer $ICP 🥇 📉 2) Chainlink $LINK 🥈 📉 3) Starknet $STRK 🥉 📉 4) Cardano $ADA” Haven’t they and Forbes heard the decree from the super open-minded curious guy that the only metric that can possibly matters is fees?

iLov3musk

Fair enough cant go wrong with bitcoin. Also to your point about dilution, yes, equity dilution is a risk however Saylor is also innovating new financial products to investors such as perferred stocks (STRD, STRF, STRK) which now allows him to buy BTC without issuing MSTR shares. This is highly accretive to shareholder value

UnderstandingLow3162

Every liquid saving/investment I have is either: - bitcoin in cold storage - mstr - STRK The STRK is pretty new, but still going to be correlated with bitcoin albeit with lower volatility in theory. There's some equity in my house, and my wife has some investments that are more 'traditional' - but I'd describe myself as pretty much all-in.

harvested

Today's MSTR bitcoin announcement is interesting because it's the first buy after the STRD product launch, as well as the STRK / STRF scaling over the last 2 weeks and lack of common stock ATM. This isn't just relevant to Strategy holders - if Saylor keeps improving methods of tapping into fixed income markets, that's driving a lot of capital into bitcoin that would otherwise be stranded.