ZEC

ah-hum

If you like privacy, buy a privacy coin that you think will perform well, like ZEC, XMR, DASH, even LTC and BCH apparently have some kind of privacy features). Or if you want to use smart contracts or Dapps you'll typically need to own the coin of that network to pay the operating gas fees. Then there's XNO which you'll need if you want to transact with zero fees and small amounts, it's way undervalued so price doesn't go much lower lol, but it's the only one that does this Otherwise, basically just investment and speculation because smaller coins are much more volatile and therefore can be a much better short term ROI

MusaRilban

Fuck memes, you need to find the next ZEC. I think privacy is going to run hard. FIRO seems alright but I don't hold any. For a super low cap with a small chance of 10-30x, you need to look at coins like Ergo. Hard to get and never dumps. Perfect combination of things right now for a fucking run

Equal-Shine5837

Yeah… $ZEC

Equal-Shine5837

I think you meant $ZEC

Live-Distribution995

Well, 2-3 months ago ZEC was at $34 and went up to $750... BTC is the safest bet... the rest is a gamble...

Swaponix

I would buy Solana, Bitcoin, ZEC, Dash, and Monero.

MaximumStudent1839

ROFL! ZEC shillers were all over the place about how ETH and BTC were corrupted because they have an ETF and got "took" over by the "institutions", and lost their "cypherpunk ways". I called out their BS and said Grayscale would 100% convert their ZEC trust into an ETF when momentum starts to fade, and they need to keep the hype going. They just downvoted me and ignored what I said. LOL!

VALHALLUGH

Umm…yes. ZEC is the ticker for Zcash

OmgJosh925

Wait a sec they’re obviously hiring bots to pump like ZEC did maybe we should try to ride the wave instead of hate the pump

aprx4

Mixer and coinjoin the old way, still traceable but much harder. Now the most sure and secure way is do cross-chain swapping (e.g. NEAR Intents) into ZEC, then go shielded with ZEC, then swap back to BTC. No need for centralized exchange, this is entirely P2P swapping.

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MaximumStudent1839

Ever since ZEC showed up, I am pretty sure every dev will now frame “original purpose” as to make my chain relevant.

Fancy-Chicken-3730

Why does it feel so good to see ZEC falling while everything else recovers?

MikeysOnTheMoon

ZEC still flipping BTC or we’re done with that shit finally 😂😂

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Honest_Requirement38

Yea I am, I’ve doubled my money so far swing trading these last few weeks. It’s been great, when Bitcoin goes down, ZEC goes up, when Bitcoin goes up, ZEC goes up. Its a great process to watch

Dharmadc

anyone else trading ZEC?

Proper-Plantain9387

# ZCash (ZEC) Starts Trading in China Tonight @ Midnight - Should be a great boost to the price. ZCash (ZEC) has made its way back to OKX, one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges in the market. OKX announced the listing of Zcash, the largest privacy token in the market, on Sunday, Nov. 23, via a blog post on its Chinese domain. The exchange, which is also the largest offshore platform serving the Chinese market, has already started ZEC top-ups. According to the announcement, OKX will launch its ZEC/USDT spot trading at 12:00 UTC on Nov. 24. ZCash has risen by over 1,100% over the past three months. The token currently has a market cap of $9.24 billion with a daily trading volume of almost $2 billion. Increased price momentum has also brought huge interest to the broader crypto privacy market. According to data from CoinMarketCap, the total market cap of this category is currently sitting at $59.6 billion with ZCash owning the greatest market share. Popular analysts are also setting bullish price targets for Zcash. Coinspeaker reported that Ali Martinez believes that ZEC will reach the $750 mark very soon after this announcement - and on Nov. 7, the asset briefly touched $736 for the first time since November 2016.

Proper-Plantain9387

This, as well as 2 other good news posts recently about the growth investors see in ZEC... The "Gemini brothers" are the Winklevoss twins, who founded the Gemini cryptocurrency exchange and have a recent and significant investment in Zcash (ZEC) through a new company called Cypherpunk. The Winklevoss twins view Zcash as an "encrypted Bitcoin" that is well-positioned to become a privacy-focused layer for transactions, especially in light of advances in artificial intelligence. Cypherpunk has raised $100 million to acquire ZEC, with a goal of accumulating up to 5% of the total circulating supply.

RatherCynical

I focus on anything with a profitable pattern. XRP, XMR/ZEC, etc might have pumped, but not in a way that fits within an obvious pattern for the next cycle. "Hope and prayers" is not a financial strategy, knowing why something pumps is

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Still_Theory179

ZEC is Bitcoin. 

Still_Theory179

My quant told me that no one can unequivocally rule out that the big OG wallets who have sold recently aren't old lost wallets selectively hacked by a quantum computer.  Hmm interesting 🤔. No wonder so much flow is going to ZEC. Smart money knows. Thanks quant 

Still_Theory179

My quant gave me the go ahead to x10 ZEC here, my quant doesn't miss 

Fit_Employment_2595

Someone wants optional privacy, they should buy ZEC.

Bitchinfussincussin

I have a similar unrealized loss. Not panicking. I did the DD and can wait for years. Also, I am adding ZEC to portfolio, just in case privacy sector takes off.

Simke11

Did you buy ZEC near the top?

Still_Theory179

ZEC/BTC chart painting a bull flag, still looks good. Accumulating here with tight stops below support

Horror-Badger9314

ZEC is going where it belongs.

YogurtCloset3335

Well I guess there are all kinds of wallets? Exodus for example supports ETH and all ERC-20 tokens, but also supports basically all top 40 cryptos from BTC/DOGE/ZEC/TRX etc. It's a big app but it seems to work. At the end of the day, nobody cares which protocol or SDK is used if their payment product WORKS. Certainly there will be winners and losers but they'll be chosen based on a variety of factors. The amount of consumer adoption will likely be the most important however. Oh, and which wallet/coin/system gets hacked the least.

MaximumStudent1839

NGL, I am increasingly losing faith in this market. It is not because of the market crash. Knew something was wrong when BTC whales were aggressively dumping above 100K, traders were leveraged long hard against all that dumping, but ppl were blaming market makers for manipulation. Crash below 100K didn’t surprise me but the speed of it all was sure crazy. The loss of faith in the market comes from the industry elites deciding to manipulate and pump the ZEC coin. Manipulating a coin isn’t new in crypto. But it is usually done under a frivolous marketing or a superficial meta. But now they are pretending they are trying to “save humanity” with privacy is just super cringe.

Fit_Employment_2595

ZEC is next

Maddinoz

Meanwhile billionaires setting up treasuries in BTC, Eth, ZEC In time, BTC has only gone up This market / dip is an opportunity for the patient who see it as such and have the risk appetite for volatility

MaximumStudent1839

> ALL tier 3 and many tier 2 Mining firms die or are close to dying. Tier 1 mining firms with the best equipment at this point will survive indefinitely. Said it long ago, PoW is a dying consensus mechanism, especially for a capped supply. Only a few will survive because of institutional support. It is hilarious how these ZEC shills FUD BTC for its institutional takeover when ZEC capped supply + POW will inevitably lead it to the same outcome, if it ever gets lucky on getting an institutional bid.

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Illustrious_Way3898

Sure it can because it’s still cheap vs BTC. There’s about 16 million ZEC.

Illustrious_Way3898

ZEC is still very cheap compared to BTC. 1 ZEC was worth more than 1 BTC in 2016. Bitcoin would have to crash to $700 to match ZEC’s poor performance.

piggleii

Shorters haven't been having a good time with ZEC lately.

vekypula

Checked the market a bit , except ZEC of course. BCH looks resilient. Could the next cabal narrative be that blackrock , saylor moon ,venezuela and everybody else bought the wrong bitcoin :)) That would be hillarious , but in line with the scam this market truly is

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[Zcash price today, ZEC to USD live price, marketcap and chart | CoinMarketCap](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/)

Still_Theory179

And somehow ZEC continues to go up lol

bkilpatrick3347

Well at least ZEC is rebounding

Honest_Requirement38

Anyone else swing trading ZEC? I’m having fun with it while my BTC and ETH bags get heavier at least

TwoInchClit

ZEC about to crack top ten if everything else keeps tanking and it gains 10% another day. Fml

Still_Theory179

The relative strength of ZEC is a sight to behold, hard to argue there isn't significant flows diversifying from BTC 

ALth0r

Anybody that buy that ZEC shit at 700 (it was at 30 a couple month ago) shoud know what's coming. Don't participate in pump & dump guys...

Shadowpinegrowth

ZEC Would like a word with you

Aerocryptic

Remember STX? One of the most explosive pump early 2024. It's back to its early 2023 level. Almost all the coins that have outperformed for a short period of time have roundtripped their gains. If you hold some ZEC, you should know what to do

Aerocryptic

ZEC is not new, it's a dino coin. Yeah you could include Hype but I was looking at the top 10 on CG, so no filter

Honest_Requirement38

Everyone sell there ZEC quick. I’m swing trading and need it to drop 10/20% so I can buy back again. THANKS NFA

LazyLifeguard

The leverages playing each other. ZEC is the best examples, just check the liquidations up and down. It's impossible to sustain things with these games. We didn't have it last bull run. Every wallet supports direct leverage 2x - 1000x right now. And it's mostly tax-free, all the illegal money went to it, it's decentralized.

Still_Theory179

So ZEC founder is Satashi and smart knows, he built and quantum and private version and the flows are one way? Slowly then all at once. Wow

Numerous_Ruin_4947

ZEC still pumping - lol!

KiwiVulpesVulpes

I wish you luck stranger!! Have a squizz at ZEC while you’re at it. A correction is probably coming but after that, to the moon?

MaximumStudent1839

It is all nice sounding. But actions speak louder than words. Like I said, private transactions was a small percentage before hype on ZEC and still remains a small percentage right now. If it wasn’t a bubble, you should see a steady build up of private transactions across chains. It shouldn’t be all of a sudden an interest because billionaires and KOLs want to talk about it. Plus, these privacy coins aren’t as generally strong as which Binance whales are aggressively defending ZEC’s floor. The weaker PA outside ZEC shows what is what. This is also interesting when privacy practice maybe higher on those non-ZEC coins. Not sure how your second paragraph is relevant. KYC exchanges would have to report your wallets anyway. If you are using unshield transactions, govt can just watch without breaking any encryption etc. Illegal or not is not relevant because most private transactions were never illegal. Also, this constant reference to Satoshi is just marketing than real substance. Satoshi also designed it as peer-to-peer cash. But that just didn’t work and the market moved on.

IsItSafe2Speak

I've cashed out all but BTC and am shorting ZEC

olduvai_man

The other dino projects are simply following ZEC. The minute markets turn around, all of those projects are going to get crushed as money flows to other narratives. If you've made anything on these projects, I'd be looking to get out.

MaximumStudent1839

Privacy may or may not be the future. But it clearly hasn’t show strong organic usage demand outside of XMR. Before ZEC hype, you can check its shielded pool was much smaller. Demand for privacy can’t be driven by hype. You either value it or you don’t. If privacy does hit an escape velocity, its tools will be easily commoditized across smart contract L1s. And all their anonymity sets would grow large enough to be negligible in probabilistic difference for detection purpose. Then the question becomes what is your moat? I can only think of social Lindyness withstanding govt crackdown on privacy etc. Monero seems like the best example. But it isn’t the one to lead this privacy rally. That alone, tells me this hype is not really privacy fundamental driven. It is used as a niche to generate a narrative to give some funds to bet on some needed short term outperformance in an asset class struggling to rally across the broad.

IsItSafe2Speak

Believe me I'm kicking myself for jot trusting my instincts. But like you said the HODL is dead and I still had that mentality. Hoping that it would bounce back at some point. I'm no longer a bag holder. I'm now looking for opportunities to make money on dips. In and out. ZEC has been treating me nicely.

mynutsrbig

I like how none of you came up with a better response as to why monero or ZEC are worse than BTC. Tells me all. Mossad and Arab sand nigs can lick my huevos. Privacy for the win

mynutsrbig

Darn just purchased more ZEC

sylsau

Only Monero is safe. Forget ZEC.

mynutsrbig

No shielded ZEC transaction has ever been deanonynized by FEDS. Try again.

No_Accountant4051

Hbar; SXT - a new proof of SQL project. Also used for paying in a network of universities. You can let it analize by AI; ZEC; SUI; LINK; accually a lot more also, but every one of them needs a big ecosystem and it needs to be adoppted. Every coin is fighting for a share of the market. You should look for inovations. Let us know what you've found.

tornavec

I've invested in XMR, ZEC, and TRX — with the last one staked. My portfolio has never seen a loss.

RotCods

Zcash. ZEC. Top cryptographers. Constant development. Proven concept. Awareness and visibility.

LTP-N

Startign to feel I shouldn't have bought ZEC @ \~600USD....

-Decompose-

Yes and they took a large position in ZEC

northcasewhite

ZEC.

IsItSafe2Speak

ZEC?

IsItSafe2Speak

Depends what your buying. I'm buying BTC and ZEC.

SeriousGains

Alt season happened. It was just limited to ZEC this cycle.

1DirtyOldBiker

XMR actually makes fees. ZEC is all hype bounce and 5m liquidations this morning. ZEC is also only private if you believe the private keys were actually destroyed, no proof tho. Short term, go for it, but XMR return to exchanges or privacy cluster drops early & ZEC drops like a hot rock.

SameWeekend13

ZEC is holding up very well. This means we will be out of this dip soon.

footofwrath

Except ZEC...

malte_brigge

Nah, I pressed the invisible (shielded) third button to buy ZEC and I'm winning even harder.

Fractyltrader

I moved money into ZEC and it’s doing great despite this systemic sell off. Literally the only thing in my portfolio moving higher. https://preview.redd.it/70uh7zh6oq1g1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=423eda1e6f7151bcf763b7b53ab71a894ebfaa29

Aromatic-Ad7987

i thought you were looking for some serious utility but youre just looking for the pump well okay then .... ZEC put that in your machine lol best of luck to ya

MaximumStudent1839

Hard to say. I have been running some algo to analyze these ZEC shills X profile before October 11th. A lot of them seem to have lost their money in the trenches or got cucked by 10/10. Unsurprisingly, most rarely ever talked about privacy coins before October. They probably don’t have any buying power left. But they also might not sell because they want to “make it back all in one trade.” They are shrimps so they don’t really affect price. But they are the most visible buyers. Most volume is coming from Binance. It had a local bottom around 400. So you might see some whale sells around 800. But probably some are trying to front this sell by making a wall between 700 and 800. At this volume point, whatever the DAT can raise is just narrative, more than deciding if it goes up or down.

Still_Theory179

You're all invited to the Valhalla, the price of admission is 1 ZEC

Still_Theory179

It's simple guys, we all just gotta but the same coin and never sell, the ticker is $ZEC. See you all in Valhalla 

ecnecn

ZEC members in an inactive sub doing literally nothing getting attacked by some individual monero momebers for no reason. Shall ZEC write an apology letter that two investment firms / strategic holdings and an exchange (gemini) chose ZCash? It is a surprise for all of us.

Antique_Tale_1865

Most gay bull run ever. BTC did a couple of X, altcoins performance was pure fucking shit and to top it off they sent ZEC 10x and that was it. Why did I not buy stocks

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paidzesthumor

ZEC has been wild this cycle for sure

paidzesthumor

ZEC has been wild this cycle for sure

Legal-News-4874

Long term? None of them. There is no coin that long term keeps up with BTC, not even ETH. Short term - "Privacy" coins. Currently the only real use case altcoins making any significant gains vs BTC. ZEC, DASH, PIVX, XMR Everything else is gambling and you could probably day trade but will more than likely lose money

bkilpatrick3347

ZEC run will continue until bear market ends

Over_Explanation3348

ZEC

Leynnox

And if you bought BTC in 2014, then sold it for ZEC in 2016 because BTC was down or whatever, you would be down 90% right now, while you would be up 14 000% if you just kept your BTC. See, that's not how things work.

Tank1882

Not $ZEC. Better version of BTC! Privacy!

IsItSafe2Speak

I have a long term view on BTC and I have some entries with ZEC. I'm mainly concerned with ALTS like SOL, SUI, LINK etc. The bigger name ALTS. It's been a downtrend for a month. You're right anything is possible and I'm trying to avoid being a bag holder. If it happens so be it but, I would like to avoid that if possible. Ya know?

3katinkires

What people hope is a 2nd chance to mirror the success of Bitcoin. This time faster. Oligarchs and big whales/institutions now have a grasp on it so BTC is getting mainstream (..) What I like more in ZEC is its limited supply (21M). That after all is what is getting BTC so successful. (difficulty, halving and mining)

Iron0ne

ZEC is an old dead coin with massive whale bag holders. These old coins that pop off out of no where. There is one reason for it. Exit liquidity.

ReignNFire

Yeah I hesitated for a second making this post, because people are shilling tf out of ZEC saying the same thing about “PRIVACY!” all the time, didn’t want to be part of it on a main post. I did want opinions on what people think though, because I feel I’m going crazy seeing this price action and it makes no damn sense, some of the comments help me understand it better. The liquidation on 10/10 does make sense, looking for a runner. Privacy built into a layer 1 from the jump, while unlikely to have been the driving force, is a true component. ZEC being shilled by everyone and their mom on X also is a driving factor. UK removing digital privacy as well. Idk I guess all these can add up to what we see today, but I’m still skeptical af and think there is something else going on that made the Winklevoss twins want to invest further.

1_BigPapi

These posts are getting tiresome. Influencer pump and dump + FOMO .. no one serious about privacy uses ZEC. Yes it pumped. Yes it may pump more. But good luck guessing when it collapses. Influencers bought early and sell on the way up.

1_BigPapi

Half these posts (not this one) but half are just posting here to keep dialogue and attention on it as part of the information campaign to keep ZEC pumping as long as they can. Influencers have perfected the formula over the past few years... and the sheep keep falling for it. They will keep buying into tops.

Top-Squash6558

Just seems like another case of coin of the moment. Once in a while a certain buzzword pops off. [Fetch.ai](http://Fetch.ai) (and a few others) when chatgpt was launched. xrp, xlm and hbar when RWA was the buzzword. Now we have privacy coins aka ZEC, but also Monero is popping atm. I feel like the hype will die off and we are back to Bitcoin is king.

MaximumStudent1839

Heard the same shit about Solana going overtake XRP. By now, it is pretty clear, cultish formation is more valuable than the tech stack. And most of these new ZEC converts hope around narratives like they are changing socks.

RamoneBolivarSanchez

It’s Anatoly, Mert, and a bunch of other Solana cabal clowns trying to pump their own bags. It’s all coordinated and at this point you have even bigger clowns like Arthur Hayes piping in, trying to add legitimacy to it. Gotta love when people say “I’m not buying ZEC” for 8 years while it trails at $30, but then they want to buy suddenly once it’s $700 after pulling a 20x in a month.