ZEC

ChanceEatsJalapenos

I think we’re going to have a privacy coin wave at some point as concerns grow about tracking. Monero, ZEC and XVG

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The European Union will enforce new Anti-Money Laundering (AML) rules by 2027, banning anonymous cryptocurrency accounts and privacy tokens like Monero (XMR) and Zcash (ZEC). The Anti-Money Laundering Regulation (AMLR) prohibits credit institutions, financial institutions, and crypto asset service providers (CASPs) from maintaining anonymous accounts or handling privacy-enhancing coins. CASPs operating in multiple member states will face direct AML supervision, with mandatory customer due diligence for transactions above €1,000. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

MachinimaGothic

"Zcash does privacy waaaay better than XMR" Read your comments twice. And don't act like triggered snow flake.  BTC sold it's soul long ago and it's not privacy coin. So it's not a problem neither argument.  The thing is that ZEC is centralized in terms mining. Somehow I trust more decentralised networks. XMR somehow is still kinda minable with cpu. And also ZEC is dead their Reddit is a ghost town. Monero is thriving. For some reason community use this not ZEC. It has some other problems which I am not aware of. And it's going down to zero. XMR is more like stable coin recently.  No one proofed that they are tracebly. Usually what I hear that it can be traced if you make newbie mistakes. Same most likely will go with ZEC. It's like using tor and logging on Facebook expecting that your session wouldn't be compromised. 

aussiposters

Agree and went through a similar process, luckily sooner than you but I also believe hard forks of BTC have an exceptional future too LTC ZEC even BCH

Unusual-Owl-1053

Do they hate it though? If they did it would be delisted from exchanges like XMR & ZEC

thanos---

ZEC , as a privacy coin with potential to also increase in dollar value. XMR does the job nicely, but I don't expect it to double in dollar value or sth. LTC. What people don't get about LTC is that it has nothing to achieve or to prove. It was designed as money, and works fine as money. It has a strong dev and validation base, there's no risk that way. It only needs what the whole cryptocurrency ecosystem needs: a wider adoption. Nevertheless, it is one of the most adopted project among cryptos. BNB. Cryptos need networks. Nowadays many develop their own, therefore I don't expect any network token to repeat ETHs story. However, for those tokens which need a network, bnb will be the first choice

aussiposters

Zcash is beating BTC. And Grayscale is buying ZEC and selling BTC…go figure

igoldring

XMR > ZEC ZEC has been making lower highs each cycle

aussiposters

Zcash ZEC

aussiposters

ZEC??

Aldhyabi

Like Zcash (ZEC)

_RawSushi_

Well there was ZEC

foxepower

ZEC

Self_Blumpkin

In 2017 I had 36 1070’s. 6 rigs of 6 cards / rig. I was also in BTC in 2011 (for not so wholesome purposes) and 2013. I was almost one of the first to be scammed by Butterfly Labs I also owned 21 Antminer S9’s to mine BTC directly. The GPUs did me better mining ETH and ZEC directly to exchange. Then I’d sell to BTC and cold store it.

Sad-Departure-5923

LTC and ZEC have worked well for me. Tripled my money on both and took some profits as well.

heynow941

Regardless of investment potential, what are some crypto projects you find useful or interesting? I can only think of a few where I kind of get their purpose: - BTC as a store of value - ETH for smart contracts - ZEC and XMR for privacy After that, but further down, there’s - Filecoin because decentralized storage sounds useful - Civic because proving unique identity sounds interesting and useful Beyond that, many of the blurbs I’ve read on other coins are either very confusing or do not seem to be unique. But yet more of these non-meme coins seem to popup. What’s on your list?

I_talk

BitcoinZ is a fork of the ZCASH core and launched in 2017 with a few modifications. All the privacy coins have a tough time because people worry about the actual supply but ZEC and zK-snarks are really smart to keep the public ledger available and also give privacy an easy way to be accessed. BTCZ is about to launch a layer 2 with smart contracts and extra features that ZEC has yet to achieve. Hopefully all privacy coins can work together to keep the idea that Bitcoin was founded on live and well

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Monero (XMR) and ZCash (ZEC) are leading privacy-focused cryptocurrencies, each using different technologies to ensure user privacy. Monero employs Ring Signatures, RingCT, and Stealth Addresses for default privacy, making it popular among users seeking complete confidentiality. ZCash uses zk-SNARKs, offering optional privacy with shielded and transparent transactions. Monero has a more stable price and larger user base, while ZCash's optional privacy model has limited its adoption. Monero is favored for its comprehensive privacy, whereas ZCash appeals to those valuing regulatory compliance. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Bright_Lie_9262

ZEC is an interesting play imo, new leadership and good tech behind it, also has the option of not being a privacy coin and so might be able to get a pass with regulations. From an investment standpoint, it's had jumps into the hundreds in prior rallies and could reasonably do it again, even if at a lower top. Biggest price factor here is that there's only 21 million coins out there (not all have been mined), so it's highly deflationary in that respect relative to most of the coins in the rankings you mentioned. Price movements have been promising as well over the last few weeks. Drawbacks here are a long bear market and some concerns about very small numbers of miners controlling the hash rate and energy intensive mining relative to price.

Vnogkiller

Anyone see ZEC/ZCASH poppin off here? Seems way undervalued

Illustrious-Type-485

ZEC

KeepBitcoinFree_org

You think powerful governments already aren’t doing this? They hate the fact that there is a digital equivalent to cash in the form of shielded ZEC or XMR, or protocol level mixers. Both ZEC & XMR have already gone through numerous spam attacks and are still here generating blocks full of anonymous transactions. Most criminals are simple and just use Fiat Cash anyways.

dolphinmagnet

ZEC seemed like a good bet. It might still be. It all goes in cycles. I still have 250 of them. 

Illustrious-Type-485

ZEC

Kallen501

ZEC seems like Israeli intel op if you look at their team

KeepBitcoinFree_org

The privacy set for a z-to-z shielded ZEC transaction is the entire shielded pool. The privacy set for an XMR transaction is the inputs + decoys. The privacy of ZEC is still unmatched, despite your hate for the developers, and your conspiracy theories.

MoneroArbo

He actually shills ZEC over XMR so, that's pretty wild

MoneroFox

ZEC and DASH abandoned their mission under duress and became ordinary coins. Of these three, only XMR is a privacy coin.

DazzaVonHabsburg

Full-chain membership proofs are coming next year and ring signatures are history. https://www.getmonero.org/2024/04/27/fcmps.html Once that happens XMR privacy = fully ZKP-based = ZEC loses any advantage it had left.

KeepBitcoinFree_org

And yet XMR privacy still isn’t as good as shielded ZEC.

IknowLeeKnow976

Interesting picks! ETH definitely has potential, especially with the possibility of an ETH ETF. ETC's proof of work aspect could indeed attract more attention. As for ZEC, it's intriguing at its current price levels. On another note, have you looked into Pepe Unchained? It's a vibrant meme coin with a passionate community. Worth checking out amidst the altcoin buzz this year!

Kactoz

ZEC

type_error

ZEC once (for a week) was 4x Bitcoin because people like me thought it was the next best thing.  Radiolab did an episode on XMR and interviewed the founder. Great episode. 

Extreme_Nectarine_29

Never heard of ZEC tbh. But yes, alts are way more riscky

type_error

Bought 1 ZEC with 3 BTC

KeepBitcoinFree_org

1. It was created by known IT professionals, some of the smartest in the space. “Zcash was conceived by scientists at MIT, Johns Hopkins, and other respected academic and scientific institutions. “ - https://z.cash/learn/what-is-zcash/ 2. It has a development fund from the block reward to support ongoing development, instead of expecting devs to beg to get funding from greedy investors. - https://z.cash/learn/who-funds-zcash/ 3. It used to have a trusted setup but no longer does. It has also pioneered some of the most innovative privacy technology that will be used in the future. The privacy set for a shielded ZEC transaction is the entire shielded pool that will continue to grow with time. The privacy set for a XMR transaction are only the decoys and users involved at the time. - https://z.cash/learn/what-is-halo-for-zcash/ Most of the XMR maxis think there’s some hidden backdoor. Even though the code is open source, they can’t seem to understand the fact that there isn’t one. XMR presents itself as the cypherpunk currency but has clear issues with scaling, funding, & it’s core methodology for privacy (Ring signatures, mixers and decoys) and a highly toxic community. Zcash has both business and individual applications by providing both transparent & shielded addresses. While optional privacy isn’t the best because most people are lazy, they’ve shifted to a privacy first approach for most wallets - while still offering both options. This allows Zcash to maintain some CEX support and still offer better privacy overall. Mostly, they probably just join the toxic community of attacking things they don’t use, or understand.

Szntwo

ZEC

Kehmor

That's not what's being argued. The replier asserted that the government could control "your" crypto. I don't know about you but I'm not trading in amounts where using XMR or ZEC would be an issue.

mel2000

> Just off the top of my head, it could be converted to XMR or ZEC Not in the large quantities needed by Bad Actor countries.

Killintym

Just off the top of my head, it could be converted to XMR or ZEC, they could even track me doing it, but once it comes out, it would be completely anonymous and they could never know. And that’s not even including micro transactions to break up the transactions, hide the total amounts. Sure, people are naïve to think all Crypto is anonymous. Yeah that’s true, but there are very easy workarounds and you don’t even have to be a computer science major, you just have to have basic understanding of how the crypto space works.

DazzlingSecurity5

Chia XCH, Zcash ZEC, Monero XMR

GreenStretch

Not those. I traded my tiny DASH and ZEC bags when I realized they were sliding towards the bottom of page 2 of CMC.

DowntownStudio9555

Yep LTC and ZEC because low fees

oprah_2024

as a long time ZEC bagholder let me tell you about lethargic

oprah_2024

i havent noticed anyone depressed except for altcoin bagholders in stuff like EOS ADA ZEC XLM XMR other old coins that havent budged

Big-Finding2976

You're throwing shade on XMR by implying that ZEC is better because it's just as private but XMR has done something wrong that's unrelated to the fact that it's private to justify delisting it (naughty privacy coin), whilst ZEC hasn't done that bad thing so it hasn't been delisted (good privacy coin).

DazzlingSecurity5

Disagree. Both serve my purposes very well. For whatever reason, XMR maxis throw shade on ZEC yet ZEC maxis do not throw shade on XMR. Both are quality projects serving the need for personal freedom.

Big-Finding2976

If ZEC was a good privacy coin the exchanges would have been forced to delist it, like XMR.

TWITCH_MIA

Looks like OP just ate shit on ZEC and this is one of many outlets.

TWITCH_MIA

Looks like OP just ate shit on ZEC and this is one of many outlets.

TWITCH_MIA

Looks like he just ate shit on ZEC and this is one of many outlets.

Ok-Western-5799

There are no best coins in the space bar BTC/ETH. Get a decentralized wallet to invest long-term. Look into utility projects like LINK, FET, ZEC with solid infra and invest in them. You can also take a close look at projects that are about to be launched. For example, SUPRA. However, considering the volatility of the market, it is not advisable to invest and leave your portfolio for a few months.

zboyzzzz

Basically bought LTC and ZEC at all time highs

youngdoughnut

Privacy ETF with zcash trust/ZEC will be approved before Eth ETF.

youngdoughnut

I don’t either. I don’t think the government will allow truly private in large dollars, but I think it’s possible ZEC could be the next best thing/compromise. But true, privacy can be scaled depending on the code. It works well enough for the average Joe. Privacy’s an illusion anyway (ain’t that right NSA?).

vinibarbosa

My personal choices are: - Nano (XNO) - Monero (XMR) Also, Bitcoin Cash (BCH), Litecoin (LTC), Dash (DASH), ZCash (ZEC), and a few others still hold strong to the idea and vision of peer-to-peer decentralized money. It's not for the lack of working alternatives. Many like you realized this issue with Bitcoin (BTC) and moved on (I did it myself). There is nothing wrong with moving on to better tools. EMBRACE THE CHANGE!

anon00100100

$ZEC Very upset with myself didn’t lose money but sold at break even to avoid real loss. I got in at $20 and sold at $20. Converted it all to bitcoin but still it was my dark horse ult and I got shook out by potential delisting of privacy coins. All I’m on bitcoin now but wish I could’ve got some of the pump.

WoodenInformation730

weird, ZEC has implemented super-transparent addresses and Dash was never more private than BTC. I thought they would revert their decision on at least those two.

Optimal_Sugar_1070

You are insane if you speculate ZEC😨

Killintym

There still plenty of DEXs trading XMR and ZEC. If the dude has some basic Crypto knowledge he’ll be a ghost.

Elrondarius

ZEC Zcash privacy PoW coin

kayn1k

There are no "privacy coins". There is only one coin that CIA cannot crack the code, that is Monero. All others are trackable. Why is still ZEC and DASH on Binance? Because they don't work.

monerobull

No. Privacy coins, even Monero, are terrible investments. The crap ones like ZEC are even worse.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Grayscale Investments has filed with the SEC to launch a new ETF, the Grayscale Privacy ETF (PRVC), which will focus on data privacy companies and protocols, including blockchain-based solutions like Zcash (ZEC). The ETF will invest at least 80% of its assets in these areas, tracking the Indxx Data Privacy Index, and will allocate about 10% to privacy-focused protocols through Grayscale’s Trust for Zcash. The ETF aims to select companies based on their revenue from data privacy, prioritizing those adhering to regulations like GDPR and CCPA. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

kayn1k

Well, come with a counter argument then. Monero has an algorithm even CIA cannot crack. Name another coin with same features. ZEC? DASH? They are tracable. Monero doesn't need a shill because it offers something that none other cryptocurrency has. I just pointed out the obvious after seeing the news today. The girl on the news, she wouldn't be facing 20 years in prison today just by simply using Monero. Sad.

RealMustardTiger

Zcash ZEC

kayn1k

OK so let me get this straight: Binance enlists every shitcoin memecoin rugpull bullshit they can find, but delists Monero? "The Monero"? Is that the story here? They are not only de-listing Monero but at the same time blocking withdrawals which means forcing accounts to sell their Monero instead. It looks like an operation to me rather than a simple de-listing considering that it was already expected months ago. This is a kill attempt similar to what happened to Bitcoin many times in the past. Monero is not a rugpull memecoin you can -40% in a day, you need serious organized effort to be able to pull that off. Monero is one of the oldest coins out there with a perfect algorithm to protect your privacy which has a perfectly running network for years. Monero is king of privacy and darknet. ZEC, DASH or any others doesn't even come close to it. Monero developers and community have some of the smartest minds on the planet. Monero has a circulating supply same as Bitcoin, it doesn't have trillions of coins out there and every whale I know is keeping a portion of Monero in their portfolio "just in case". CEX will come and go. Monero will stay. Here is an example from Jan-2021: [https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/01/01/bittrex-to-delist-privacy-coins-monero-dash-and-zcash/](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/01/01/bittrex-to-delist-privacy-coins-monero-dash-and-zcash/) Where is Bittrex now? Go check yourself: [https://bittrexglobal.com/](https://bittrexglobal.com/)

brianddk

> Sorry, no other solution. I'll agree there are no BETTER solutions, but there are other solutions. BTC-LN, LTC-LN, LTC-MEWB, ZEC and a host of other half-measures exist. Although XMR is far better at this than the others, it is getting delisted and more difficult to acquire. Likely because it works.

One13Truck

Wow. Been years since I saw ZEC and ETC talked about. May your 2017 badge become much lighter in a few months.

MalcomRey9988

ETH is a solid pick but I'm going to be honest...ETC and ZEC have been dead a long time. Just because something is cheap or low doesn't mean you'll get a solid investment out of it. Z Cash has performed very very poorly for 2 bullruns now....if you bought Safemoon in 2021 and sold it a year later even after it tanked you would have done better than buying z cash or ETC. I think privacy coins have a future for their intended purpose but do not expect them to make you money. Literally no one is interested in ETC since like 2018 and the same can be said about Zcash...be honestly im going to go with the top comment on this thread it feels like you've been in a six or seven year coma. Try to get caught up on any of the coins in the top 20 and I would switch ETC and ZEC out for 2 other coins. Link...Sol....Ada...I mean literally anything in the top 20 over ZEC and ETC...I mean you can invest in Pepe on ETH and Bonk on sol and you'll most likely do better than holding ETC and ZEC

hoenndex

Covert shilling for ZEC Zcash lmao.  I'm good, Bitcoin is the only reliable one, and maybe ETH.

Ethwh4le

Lmao u had me at Eth but 2 and 3 is ETC and ZEC booy what you smoking over there??

hungryforitalianfood

ETC AND ZEC This mf just woke up from a six year coma. Who’s gonna tell him?

gr8ful4

ZEC has a high development tax. Some people think that is good because it guarantees development.

YuntHunter

Give me a single alt ZEC has performed better against? I'll wait

Inevitable-Driver-53

The point is if ZEC can't outperform BTC at all you shouldn't be holding any ZEC at all.

Joeyfishfingers

ZEC will be regulated against Buyer beware ALGO is my choice- I’m 100% in

Elrondarius

I hold much more bigger bag of BTC then ZEC. I was talking about alts …

YuntHunter

Just never buy ZEC, simple.

YuntHunter

There's no helping some people... If you bought BTC instead of ZEC in 2019 you would have 2,770% more money now. I dunno dude or just buy something that's going to chronically underperform, up to you.

YuntHunter

It's down 96% against BTC since 2019. What about this as an investment is attractive? For 5 whole years the market has told you nobody wants ZEC.

Elrondarius

I usually spend 20€ daily on lunch … and now i can buy ZEC. I also bought it for 150€ and i’m ZEC holder for years … If the price will totaly fail ( it’s also option ) i can use ot with it’s tech like a tool and no just for drugs.

YuntHunter

For the love of god don't buy ZEC. What part of a coin that has chronically underperformed throughout its entire lifecycle seems attractive. It's literally one of the worst performing "legit" coins in crypto.

Cathie_D_Wood

I don’t see many people talking about ZEC Thoughts?

type_error

Something similar happened to me except the HW wallet was my portfolio and the dump was ZEC

Zorbithia

That's totally fine - anyone who has ever used Monero or knows the first thing about the XMR community is well-aware that the last thing any of us want is to be "adopted" by Wall Street. Z-Cash is dying and is on the way out, they are currently dealing with a situation where the largest ZEC mining pool has 54% of hash power...they've been delaying a supposed transition to proof-of-stake (first to a "hybrid" model, so they claim), but long-term they are moving to an entirely proof-of-stake consensus model, which makes the entire project pointless. Monero will live on, provided that there isn't some kind of major breakthrough which renders it's security properties null and void. This is likely to happen at some point, honestly, but for now, it's the best there is...at least out of the options which exist and have actual people using them.

ZucchiniDull5426

I think 150 area is here OG shitcoin level starts. You have the class of 2010’s decade IOTX, ZIL, BAT, ZEC, XEM in a tight group. Then Decred which has better tech than Bitcoin #200 and Korean ETH killer #219 soon to be passed by Solana’s ‘Dog with hat’. Then pass some more OG names and near the 300’s is when it gets really depressing with Nano, Polymath, and Digibyte about to be fallen off the default CoinGecko 300 list.

Exittus

You asked so I'll answer and get downvoted. (I like LTC, just being honest) LTC does nothing novel compared to Bitcoin. Charlie lee changed a few parameters so there'd be more coins and a different hashing algo. There's currently zero development. Nothing since the mimblewimble block extensions which no one uses. Okay fees are low, great. They're also super low on every single alt other than BTC/ETH. LTC's primary strength is it was early to market and got listed on all the big exchanges and thus developed a network effect. But what now? Why is no one developing on it? Other layer 1 coins at least have useful privacy, on-chain coinholder voting, treasuries, building out DEXs, moving the peg forward (XMR, DCR, ZEC, DASH etc) LTC is boring. And that's fine. It does what it needs to do. Just don't expect people to get too excited about it.

DeleteMe3Jan2023

Major institutions like Goldman Sachs can literally track almost every major holding of certain physical asset classes in the world (e.g. uranium, palladium, etc). So they can know exactly how and when to pump/drop the price. Want to short-squeeze or pump ZEC/XMR or another privacy coin? A) You can't know distribution to guarantee a successful pump B) You can't effectively coordinate with other major players. The other problem is anyone holding a privacy coin can cash out into BTC which is proven to be a better store of value long-term. Everyone knows this, so any pump in a privacy coin will be sold at some point. Eventually it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Thirdly, institutions are the ones with money. They don't want a bar of privacy coins. All the illegal activity in the world is a tiny pool of funds compared to Blackrock, etc.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Market liquidity for privacy tokens such as Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), and DASH has hit all-time lows due to crypto exchanges delisting these assets amid regulatory pressure. Kaiko's data indicates that liquidity for these tokens was just $5 million last week following their removal from OKX. Major platforms have increasingly delisted privacy tokens, with ZEC being the most delisted over the past two years. This trend has led to market fragmentation, with XMR remaining on large exchanges and ZEC and DASH trading on smaller, unregulated venues. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Binance has expanded its 'monitoring' tag to include 10 additional tokens, among which are privacy-focused cryptocurrencies Monero (XMR) and Zcash (ZEC). This move indicates an increased level of scrutiny on these tokens by the exchange. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

oprah_2024

just the halving in Nov. thats all. LTC pumped almost 200% off its lows prior to the halving. ZEC up to $90 aint chump change

RHINO_HUMP

They are older tried and true coins, and they’ve held in the top 150 market caps this whole time. There are lots of old whales still holding. I don’t expect them to break new ATH’s but when you consider $73 LTC going to $350 or $28 ZEC going to $250, those are still really good gains to be had simply from crypto getting a larger marketcap as a whole. Also, I don’t see any surprise controversies coming over those coins.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; OKX is delisting several spot trading pairs to maintain a robust trading environment, following their Token Delisting/Hiding Guideline. Affected pairs include FSN, ZKS, CAPO, CVP, XMR, DASH, ZEC, and ZEN. Deposits for these tokens have been suspended since December 27, 2023, and withdrawals will be suspended starting March 5, 2024. Users are advised to manage their assets and cancel orders before delisting, as the system will automatically cancel them within 1-3 working days. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

type_error

Remember when ZEC almost hit $6k?

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) outperformed the S&P 500 in 2023, with a 125% gain compared to the S&P's 23%. The CoinDesk Computing Index (CPU) led sector gains with a 167% return. Injective Protocol's INJ token, RenderToken, and Solana's SOL saw significant returns, while ApeCoin, Luna, DASH, BAL, OMG, and ZEC were among the biggest losers. Bitcoin maintained its dominance with a 164% return, and the Smart Contract Platform Sector (SMT) index returned 107%, slightly underperforming the CMI. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

OkArm8581

I'm using XMR and ZEC on daily basis. Not investing in them. Privacy coins are immensely useful tool as an intermediary. I see zero investment value in them.

OkArm8581

For me it is not XMR or ZEC. It's XMR for situation A and ZEC for situation B. Some tasks are served better with ZEC while other with XMR. In many cases neither of them is applicable and have to be converted in something else altogether. Choosing XMR while shunning ZEC just closing opportunities. Why would I do it? Market is big and there is plenty space for everyone.

krakrakra

Who's that? Also, this chart is so funny, do the same for ZEC or 99% of the coins inexistance for that matter.

Elrondarius

BTC - 40% ETH - 20% ZEC - 10% DOGE - 10% SHIBA - 10% Other alts - 10%