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You do know there's something completely fucked in crypto if you hit the 50MA in February
No, 40000, 200d MA. Gotta hit that
Soon it will be much below that MA! Keep buying!
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In 2022, Bitcoin lost the 100-week moving average, dropped \~30%, printed a technical relief rally… and then fell another \~55%. The real bottom only came about 150 days after the 100W MA breakdown. The current structure looks dangerously similar. A bounce is not a bottom. If the symmetry holds, the cycle low may form around July, in the $34k–$40k zone. From there, markets historically begin to reprice roughly 530 days before the halving, pointing to October–November.
Have you guys ever heard of Charlie Munger’s strategy? Basically waiting for the 200 week moving average of an asset and then when it dips or approaches close to that average, you ape into it. Going by that strategy, BTC’s 200 week MA would be at 58k.
This is nothing wait until the 50 day MA drops below the 200
I don’t have a crystal ball, I just look at the 200 week MA on the weekly chart and compare that to the last previous 3 cycles, 200 week MA is our next destination and a tad lower as per history
There is no crystal ball on actuals. But very likely this is not the lowest point. Very likely that the price goes below (or way below) 200W MA, which is currently modest 58K ish. When? We'll see. Within 1 month? Within 4 months? Maybe 6?
To be fair, we also moved much further away from the 200w MA every prior bull run. I don't know if we get the same bear market without a comparable bull run.
We haven’t officially hit the 200 week MA, this must occur first before we can start considering the bottom is in, just like it has happened in every previous cycle
BTC typically retraces 50% of ATH, as well as the 200 day MA being around 58-59k range. Not surprising it ended up actually retesting that 200 MA support. I don't think we are done yet, also expected numerous relief rallies to 70-75k even 80k before eventually falling once again. I still stand by my rule of the cycle. Until we break that rule in October, that's my plan.
200 MA and below that as has been the trend these past cycles to go increasingly lower. See you in November.
Bought at 450, i am chilled. Starting to DCA as soon as BTC falls below the 200 week MA like it always does.
Either that or the majority of downturn is already over, I mean we might slowly drop another 15-20% from the current prices over the course of 6 months but the supply in profit is at 50% , BTC price broke below mining cost, and below 200 MA, every single TA tells us we are NEARING bottom, doesn't mean it can't fall another 10% and stay there for months but, we are no way going through another 50% fall of course this is all just guessing with long term TA but Monthly and Weekly RSI is in oversold category which happened only once in the 2022 bear market and the COVID crash so I am stacking hard at these prices to lower my average from 97,500 to possibly low 80's.
wow did we just touch 200W MA in february...?
I don't think it's normal to front run the 50MA in February though? Tera Luna crash only happened in 2022 May
Same every cycle. Hopefully people stack up once that 50week MA and 200weekMA cross (which looks like its gonna happen way sooner than a full year drawdown at this rate). You are very correct, we know buying the blood is the best long term strategy, whether we have the guts and the balls and the intellect at the time to play that move correctly when it comes is a very different story.
It regularly goes below the 200 week MA [https://charts.bitbo.io/ma-200w/](https://charts.bitbo.io/ma-200w/) But anytime you're buying/holding at the 200 week MA feels good, and anytime you can buy well below the 200 week MA feels amazing. I would LOVE to be able to buy at 40k
Lmao, this is not a meme coin slop. It broke 50 MA, 100 MA, rejected after relief rally, we are due for bear run. And this is what pricing in looks like.
We went below the 200wk MA last bear
I think 58k is a reasonable target as the 200W MA, but that assumes this cycle is like previous cycles, which it hasn't been in many other ways.
RSI and MA are a lagging indicator, not a leading indicator. It doesn't tell you anything about what's going to happen, just what has already happened
I'm happy to lower the average, I had to sell around the $60k price mark about 18 months ago and it paid for my wedding, and a move to a different country. Unfortunately I got back in a little high. Average buy is $93k this time around, last time the average buy was $30k Hopefully I can capitalize on these tasty dips but I just started an MA and paying installments for the next 5 months on this!
I hope you’re right. I always see people talking about RSI and MA and it seems to never work out but I haven’t documented and paid attention enough to say for sure the success rate. I’m still above my average buy price but we are getting close lol
I am just guessing but the weekly RSI is extremely oversold, the fear is in the worst extreme fear and the supply of btc in profit is around 50% I doubt we would stay below the 200 MA long enough, almost always it bounces from 200 MA or dips below and then goes up, I don't think we would go much below 67 maybe to 62 and then upwards. I just know when BTC falls this fast and this sharp and there is this much fear it should also bounce back up rapidly when momentum is gained back again and fear is away
Damn are we front running the 50 MA
The time to buy is in the bear market not at the market cycle top. I was buying heavy under $20k and up to $30k during the past bear market. I’ll be a buyer again around the 200W MA and below after I sold 75% at over $110k this past cycle.
I mean 40k is definitely possible but 50k is good bottom also I'll probs start buying around 58k anyways, but the 100 MA in the monthly is 46k and that is definitely a target
200 week MA is more realistic, 20k would need a black swan event id say
Price will go to the 200w MA which is approx $58k, find it's floor, then it's up from there. Buy all the way down, and all the way back up and your future self will thank you for it.
What if it does. Imagine being at the 50MA 8 months ahead of schedule
My chart says we're still well enough above the 200 week. I show closer to $58k for that. Still have a ways to go. The cycles aren't getting as large a % gain peak to peak, and the troughs now go below the 200 WMA rather than it indicating the bottom. We went pretty decently below the 200 WMA at the end of 2022. Part of the maturing of the asset, I suppose. The up swings aren't as wild as they used to be and we can draw down under the 200 week MA.
Depends. At least to 200 MA which is current at 59.2k
100% We used to say this was "earning your wings" But to be fair, this dump is happening faster than anything I remember experiencing Doesn't seem like we ever retraced to the 200W MA this soon in the bear
Honestly, the best thing you can do is looking charts, i've been studying this thing seriously since for about 6 months and here's how I see it: Right now I believe bitcoin is in a bear market, not because of emotions of people or news or whatever it's something much more simple than that: The average price movement of the last 50 day is going down, The average price movement of the last 100 days is going down The average price movement of the last 200 days is going down. On charts it is called 50-100 or 200 day MA. Usually when all averages say it going down, well it is probably going down. So short term I expect the price to go down, not because I have a crystal ball, but more because it is the trend. It is not as random as people think. And yes bitcoin as historically followed a cycle of 3 year up and 1 year down, and right now we're roughly at the 3rd month of the down trend. Is it guarantee to repeat? No it is an observation it is not the truth. And I don't base any of my decisions on this honestly. If you take cycle as absolute truth, you’ll eventually get wrecked the day it stop working. For me, the most reliable thing is watching moving averages, volume and some others confluence, if buyers comes back I will see it in the chart. same things for sellers.
Some article I just read was talking about which no catalysts it can go to 200 MA in the mid-fifties, I don’t want to get flamed for having the wrong number. 72 k seems pretty low However, there’s a lot of room below $72,000. I never thought it would hit $1000 back in the day. But somewhere I heard something that has always whispered to me, “someday Bitcoin will be a million dollars. “ When I tried to buy it (under $2) , ETree acted like they were saving me from myself by refusing to buy it for me. I should have tried harder then. Now man I just can’t at these prices, but I admire the courage of those who would buy one today for 72k.
The sooner the better. 200MA needs to be tested multiple times before the low is in.
Yeah imagine reaching the 50 MA in the next week. Then something is truly broken
Eventually. We are still early in the bear market. But with all the aggressive selling the last few weeks, I suspect we will get some relief bounce before 60k, maybe around $68k. But I think $60k very likely, that's currently just a little above the 200 week MA and that always gets hit in the bear market.
i see the 200 weekly MA commonly cited as a likely bottom if it keeps breaking. That's around $60k rn. Nobody knows for sure, but that's my likely scenario for a "bottom falls out" drop (and when I'll be heavily buying)
Benjamin Cowan would agree that BTC has a date with destiny. Destiny being 200 week MA.
I ride with Ben Cowen. He says its likely going to touch the 200 MA like it does every post peak year. Im buying a little weekly but if it drops in teh 50's hopefully 40's im making big purchases and never looking back.
Have a look at the 200 week MA and that is most likely your best bet
200 MA is our destination at some point this year
Pretty sure it sits at the 50 MA for a year. You got until later 2027
I sold simply because btc always goes to the 200W MA... and tops in Q4 of post halving year... which it apparently did. So I DCA out of btc in summer 2025 and q4... Planning to re enter close to the 200W MA
200 weekly MA is $58k. We are not breaking lower than $50k outside of an apocalypse
I've crossed the line of "oh maybe this is isn't a bear market.." to "hurry up and dump to the 200w MA so I can go all in!"
Broken down 100W MA so it's highly likely we see the 200W in the next 12months. Good time to stay interested and DCA.
200w MA is already at $70k. Bitcoin being under the 200w MA usually means: sell everything you have, get as much of a loan you can and go all-in (no leverage).
On our way to the 200 MA, little bull trap bounce after that, and then we go even lower than the 200 MA. Buying puts all the way down and switching to calls in or around October/Nov 2026
The 200W MA has been a reliable metric for bear lows so far. Currently it's sitting at 58K, which will obviously come slowly down a bit as the moving average moves donwards. A likely scenario is somewhere 55-58K for bear lows this year somewhere between summer and end of year. Just a note that last time the price did go way below 200W MA (to around 16K) while the MA was at 24K. Mostly driven by FTX event. But that's still 34% below the 200W MA. Something similar (crypto related or not) is definitely possible. If it were to happen again with the same figures, we would be looking at prices around 38K. Absolutely not given though, but nearing the 55-58K sounds more realistic/safe scenario if one wants to try time the bottom without missing it. Who knows though.
The 200 week MA is 57k. Many bitcoin bear markets have reached that level.
Moving very fast. On a saturday unusually high volume. Looks like pure intentional manipulation. I think its going to the 200 weekly MA at 69 to 70 but not straight away, its much too fast. But I think at the 200, there will be a bounce as the MACD line looks like it might cross there assuming a few weeks.
On the weekly: 69.3 is the 50% level, 200 MA is 58, Golden pocket is 52.1 to 55.8
riskₜ = 1 / (1 + exp(− (MDₜ + c) )) MDₜ = k ⋅ ((RSIₜ + RVIₜ)/200) ⋅ (ln(1 + Pₜ + ε) − ln(1 + MAₜ + ε)) MAₜ = rolling mean(Pₜ, ma_days) ε ≈ 10⁻⁶ here
Based on my analysis of Bitcoin prices, there is a rational argument for lower prices. For the lowest possible price, I use the 312 and 364 weeks moving average to estimate the value. Currently, those tools suggest a price of $42.4k to $48.2k, but that's assuming if prices crash immediately. Those values will keep increasing. If the MA trend continues constantly, it suggests a price of $52.2k to $59k. Of course, this is entirely theoretical. I might potentially ladder into Bitcoin as the price decreases to those level, just like how I laddered out of Bitcoin as its price surges towards $126k. And just like how I sold the rest of it close to those levels, I will buy a huge amount of BTC close to the bottom. There's more data, but I guess this is enough for now.
200 W MA still a fair way away though.
>(BTW the weekly chart looks horrendous, check MA99) there it is, the MA99 (at least temporarily of course) broke in a dump just an hour later.
the problem is that BTC has failed at just about everything it was supposed to be and touted as. The store of value (that is why maxis have been pushing digital gold latelly: a safe haven in bad times) is just the last thing that is failing now (BTW the weekly chart looks horrendous, check MA99). again, what makes it a "digital gold" kind of store of value is that it performs in bad times. If we only go by the "but it pumped from 15 years ago!!!" then this is just the same like just about most shitcoin did. If we can equate BTC and let say DOGE (because BTC failed at everything else that it was suppose to be special) then BTC narrative is in a bad shape.
Weekly close below weekly 100MA 💀
What two indicators you speak of?! I definitely know how to utilize volume,MACD,vwap. It’s the MA numbers that confuse me to a point I mean obvisually it’s straightforward but like….
Whats dialing the numbers in mean??! Cuz I know for different coins BTC example they use different MA numbers
I’ve seen for BTC they use different like 50 MA
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Not necessarily, if it doesnt get down there u can wait for price to cross 50W MA upwards (2 week confirmation) and get back on the bull bus
Its not about 4yr cycle.. i don’t actually follow that, i just follow fair price value .. you know what a moving average is ? Its an average price, 200 W MA is a large data set of 200 weeks of price movement, ide rather buy the average on the longterm than buying the top on short term.. thats it really
200 W MA .. price always goes down their even on big instruments like S&P , buying and holding at a higher price is a scam
honestly respect the discipline. everyone fomoing into random levels while youre waiting for the 100 day MA is the difference between trading and gambling. if it holds there SEI usually follows BTC structure pretty clean too
Where in your post did you specify you were shorting? You wrote that the 100 day MA($90.5k) is a good buying spot to place a buy order.
Good approach. Focusing on real support levels instead of reacting to every dip is exactly the right mindset. The 100-day MA around $90.5k is a logical decision zone. Either price shows clear acceptance there, or the market confirms weakness and moves toward the next major level at the 100-week MA near $87.2k. Leverage definitely plays a role too — too many early longs often just delay a proper move. There’s a useful breakdown of how current liquidation positioning could affect these levels here: [https://btcusa.com/liquidation-map-signals-potential-short-squeeze-in-bitcoin-and-ethereum/]() Risk management first, always.
I don't look for one specific thing. BTC doesn't hold on moving averages like more stable instruments do, it can look like it's broken them only to reverse. Wick rejections are a good indicator when they happen. I usually switch to a lower time frame, like the 1h and try to buy when that's showing support/resistance as well. For example, this short I opened, I watched it test the 100 day moving average, switched to 1 hour chart, all the short term MAs crossed below the 100, it went cleanly below the 100 hourly MA and I sold. My stop loss above the peak and target was 50 day moving average. I closed a bit at $92k and I've closed the rest now, it was pretty close to my target and I don't want to chart watch today 😅 I've got some price and movement notifications set that'll tell me when to look out for my next trade.
Solid take. Too many people confuse a red candle with a "crash" and jump into leverage before price even finds real support. Watching the 100D MA and waiting for confirmation and setting a stop below is way more disciplined than trying to catch every dip. Curious what you’re using for confirmation volume, wick rejection, or a reclaim/close above the MA?
If the chart surfs the 10-20 I will not necessarily use it as a setup. I’ll use it as an indicator of longer term trends but I’m looking for further acceptance as well. I currently only trade US stocks that already have momentum, not necessarily speculative cryptocurrency. For my trades I’ll risk 1% portfolio (I may even decrease to 0.75% here) and base my position size on an appropriate support level / stop loss if there is one applicable. If trades are successful I trail my profit on a rising 10MA or 20MA if the stock is more volatile
I'm currently shorting. *Queue gasps, mocking and warnings* 😂 The 50 and 100 daily moving averages have both moved below the 200 and the recent daily peak faltered at the 100 day moving average. I'm not saying it's going to crash, or keep going down, but I'll be watching closely if it gets to the 50MA. It's a high reward to risk ratio trade.
Low percentage above the 200 day MA signals washout, not guaranteed upside, polymarket pricing usually reflects that alts are a conditional trade
Remember bois, don't FOMO, stick to your plan. However, if you see BTC break above the 50 week MA \~102k, consider throwing your plan out the window.
Still too high compare to 100MA and 200MA
It's over dude, if in any best case imaginable we could make some sort of double top. But propably not! Small pump into 100sh maybe and the market rolls over. We have Gaussian channels turning read on multiple time frames, we got a incredible bearish divergence in the RSI, we gut CMU turner red on the 2 Month, we got a 2 day death cross 200/50 MA, Stochastic RSI 1 Month is super low, 2 month turned sharply down. See you at the next bottom in a few month collecting Bitcoins
You’re absolutely right: In a BTC bull (e.g., 150k/200k/1M+), fixed BTC principal could echo this—USD payments rise faster than house value, eroding equity monthly. Borrower “owes more” in dollars despite paying down, risking underwater scenarios (house worth $500k but payments hit $10k/mo). No one rationally sticks with that without hedging. It flips the crises (strong BTC appreciating vs. weak local fiat), but outcome could be similar: “financial suicide” for unhedged borrowers, plus higher default risk for lenders if collateral lags. But key differences/mitigations in this BDM setup: • 365-day MA smoothing: Lags rapid spikes (unlike instant CHF shocks), so payments rise gradually—time to hedge/refinance/exit. • 0% interest vs. usury: Total repaid is fixed BTC (no compounding doubles/triples like 7% fiat loans). Appreciation “replaces” interest, but only bites in bulls—and for BTC maxis, it’s a feature: borrow “cheap” early BTC, repay in inflated USD while holding BTC to hedge. • Borrower bet: Yes, it’s betting BTC stays stable/declines relative to house/income (or you hedge aggressively). Not for fiat-only folks; suits those viewing BTC as superior money. • Shared risk: Lender bears bear markets (payments drop), borrower bulls—but collateral (house) gives lender recovery option. It’s not mass-market safe—definitely riskier than stable fiat loans, and could worsen “burden” in hyper-bulls without caps/floors on MA adjustments or BTC collars. The anti-usury goal is ethical lending via BTC’s strength, but your point nails why it needs strong hedges/default protections to avoid crisis repeats.
A lender could buy BTC, hold it, and get full appreciation with zero credit risk or hassle. That’s often the simplest play. But this Bitcoin-denominated mortgage (BDM) appeals to lenders who want to: • Deploy capital productively now (e.g., help someone buy a house today) instead of waiting. • Earn a return tied to BTC’s growth while providing real utility (liquidity to borrowers). • Use the house as collateral for protection—if default happens, foreclose and sell the property to recover value. • Avoid explicit interest (riba) for ethical/religious reasons, while still benefiting from BTC’s historical appreciation vs. USD (in bull/base scenarios, lenders see big USD profits from the fixed BTC principal repayments). It’s not risk-free (credit/default risk exists), but the collateral + MA smoothing make it more balanced than pure spot lending. Many prefer passive HODLing, but for those wanting to lend ethically without charging interest, this bridges the gap.
Thanks for the solid critique—fair points all around. 1. Lender could just buy BTC instead?Totally valid—no credit risk if you HODL. But this setup lets the lender deploy capital now (fund a house purchase) while still capturing BTC appreciation through fixed BTC principal repayments. It’s productive lending vs. passive holding, with the house as real collateral for default protection. 2. Borrower defaults anyway?Default risk exists in every mortgage, but the 365-day MA smooths volatility so payments don’t spike wildly like spot BTC would. In bull runs, payments rise gradually (and borrowers can hedge with BTC). In bears, payments drop—burden shifts to lender. Still 0% added cost vs. traditional 6-7% mortgages that double/triple the principal over time. 3. Pricing borrowers out / favoring savers?The goal is flipping the script: BTC’s expected appreciation becomes the lender’s return without explicit interest/usury. Borrowers get true 0% cost access to capital; lenders get compensated by BTC’s growth (historically strong vs USD). In a pure BTC future, it’s just wallet-to-wallet with no riba at all. It’s not perfect—needs legal/tax work and risk modeling—but it’s a bridge idea to make lending halal/ethical (I’m not Muslim btw) while leveraging BTC’s properties. House collateral helps on credit risk. Does that shift the view at all, or still a non-starter for you?
There is no timeframe for you question, the markets are chaotic and unpredictable. But we will probably test the 21MA in the next 1-3 weeks. We also should see if the latest run up is impulsive or corrective. These only gives some more probability that we are in a bear market or not, Once we go below 75k then we can say with very high probability that it's the bear market.
Not out of the woods yet. Hold your horses. Retest of 50MA rally very common in early bull. If we pass 50MA without major rejection however…
Sell everything and buy back when btc is at 200 week MA. Simple and profitable
Bear market is not confirmed. If we can't climb above 21 weekly MA (which is around 100k currently) or if we go below april low (75k), then we can start talking about bear market.
Were technically still in a bull run, altho we are at the end of it, BTC has liquidity around 108k, so we might pump there n then that's it. The way you know when the next bull run is, go to BTC on monthly time frame, take your % ruler tool, and spread it from the top to -77% and the next run will be after we bottom around 40-30k. I suggest learning basic technical analysis, you do not need to spend any money, there is enough free info out there , learn about MA EMA SMA cross overs on big time frames then go back in time on the chart to see what happens when crosses happen. Good luck
tldr; Chainlink (LINK) has broken its 21-day moving average for the first time since summer, signaling potential upward momentum for altcoins in the next 2-3 months. Analyst Michael van de Poppe highlights this as a positive development, with historical data suggesting similar MA breaks often precede 20-50% rallies in altcoins. However, sustained growth depends on Bitcoin stabilizing above key levels, as altcoin strength remains fragile without a Bitcoin breakout. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Yeah it still happens all the way down to lower timeframes, the 50 and 200 MA and EMA levels are common ones that affect short term movements. Liquiquidity sweeps will naturally mirror so you have both largely agreeing.
If you pay attention to key moving averages on higher time frames you can see BTC is actually testing the 50 SMA. It wasnt simply liquidity sweeping, price movements test price level hypotheses - in this recent periods case "is BTC worth the valie at a key MA?". It gets there and if the market says yes, it breaks and hold above flipping resistance to support, then it tests the next key level as determined by various methods used by significant numbers of traders. If the hypothesis "is BTC worth this much?"is rejected it retests recent lower support. Momentum may carry it below that, then the hypothesis is asked again, abd it will tend to revent back. Once it rejects a lower price the higher hypothesis will be retested. Momentum also plays a role in the shorter time frames. Look at the 50 MA on the daily chart, everything is now clear.
It will hit the 200w MA in August and start rising after October 2026.
The 200-week MA is the ultimate historical floor, but the current institutional bid depth has likely shifted that baseline much higher for this ccle
Actually best time to buy would be when we go back to the 200 week moving average and or below, which is around $67K right now. Thats my signal to buy in not because its October 2026, we might be down at the 200 week MA by then maybe or maybe not