ATH

eghoostly

I always think it’s a good time to buy when people are scared and running to panic sell, i bought in and i did so in April. I don’t buy when market is at ATH and people are greedy. I buy when people are selling and in fear that the market will crash forever. It’s quite simple i steal their money at the end basically.

Fun-Caterpillar-1169

Please don't down vote I got to 100 Karma it feels great.  Just wanted to say I thought you said $120 because you used a period....I like to read the stories sometimes of having Bitcoin when it was nothing and making a mint. Daydreaming basically.....I don't even know if Bitcoin was ever $120 anyway, still that's exactly what I thought the title was saying at first. Also I tell you, I like to live by the old adage "buy low sell high". This latest slip is just the story of Bitcoin, but its investing I expect the market to take a tumble it's just so high. I know ATH are even higher, but I got a feeling it could hit a hiccup ... eventually growing to a even larger crypto market. And for people saying hold your horses on $10+ million, yeah that might take awhile which is really a never awhile. Let's say if things go really really smooth $1 million. 

xtra_clueless

A little relief feels good, but I still think we likely topped on Oct 6. The date fits perfectly with the 4 year cycle (though this probably gets less relevant over time). But also everyone seems to agree that we are in an AI-fueled bubble now and tech stocks are massively overvalued, not unlike the dotcom bubble back in the day. This may continue for some more months but eventually it will pop. And Bitcoin is the canary in the coalmine: it's risk asset, tightly bound to the stock market (in recent years), so when the market goes risk-off, Bitcoin is the first thing to be sold. Likewise in the last cycle, Bitcoin was the first to make its top, stock market followed a few months later. And finally, when you look at the crypto market overall, there's no optimism, no euphoria, everyone is just hoping for one last leg up, to finally sell and get out. My guess is we may see another bounce to 100k or 110k even but won't make another ATH.

Igafann

My brother had called me to ask if he should start investing almost at the ATH. I told him no, never buy at the ATH. I called him back and he bought at 84k

Successful_Ad_380

You won't ask the question when BTC is up 30% from it's ATH because you want to feel validated in your negative beliefs. I'm buying forever.

redshift_11

Bitcoin/crypto market is now inextricably linked to the stock market as shown by the spillover of 10/10 into the stock market last week. No longer are they immune to each other and therefore bitcoin/crypto no longer exists in a bubble and is now trending with greater macro environment. The recent selloff from ATH was strictly by 4 year cyclers for self-fulfill prophecy. This rebound shows that and crypto winter is no longer relevant. Trust me

KerdyD

Wait for bitcoin to take a 70-80% drop from the ATH and then buy bitcoin around there.

harvested

Dead cat bounce to new ATH

Emergency_Egg1281

Invest in SILVER , PLATUMINUN , OR PAKLASIUM. prices suppressed should all be much more valuable. Crypto is gambling....Stock Market at ATH means ready foe big pukk back at any minute. and it will be big.

JuxtaposeLife

Good questions, I'm still looking at previous data to find correlations. I'm particularly interested in reversal points in history, so starting to map what happens in these signals when the market decides to shift. The volume uptick is a big signal that a bottom might have been reached at 80k... now that price has broken above 90k pretty solidly, the next extremely significant level to test will be 98k... if we get back above that, I'm pretty sure we hit $126k fast (new ATH)... likely, however, that we drift sideways until some catalyst emerges.

Liver-detox

The only real question is; will it hit new ATH in Dec or Jan? Bull mkt may be intact, this was just Trump poison economy giving the macro jitters.

Extreme_Homeworker

Interesting, this does line up. On zooming out, the past few months really have behaved more like a slow, grinding bear than an euphoric bull. Retail's vanished, volumes dried up, and most people only remember the ATH — not how thin the market’s been underneath. The “disbelief” angle makes sense here, especially with how many macro catalysts are packed into the next few months. If this bounce is the start of something real, it would fit the psychology pretty well too!

Domestic_AAA_Battery

Hits ATH of $130k Dips to $91k People freak and sell Weeks go by Slowly rises Hits ATH of $145k Dips to $82k Weeks go by Slowly rises ... 😏

backend_developer89

Unfortunately you bought it near its ATH. As long as your time horizon is long enough, in 10 years you really won’t care much about when you decided to buy. I would just hold and continue contributing to your investment when you are able to. That’s what I would do if I were in your shoes.

VariatCA

After bottoming out in April, it only took about *1 month* to reclaim the ATH-range after being as much as 30% down. People absolutely sleep on how quickly BTC / Crypto can pull a reversal.

kiwdahc

How is that brave? Its down 30% from ATH if it keeps falling ill keep buying more lol

Independent-Base4040

I got in at the last ATH like u carried on DCA for the last for 4 years rather than put in the bank . I never sold . Like u same no. Of BTC . I’ve double my investment. When I retire if I can get 2 nice long holidays from that surfing and snowboarding for 10 years im more than happy. At the end of the day BTC is not going to zero and it’s better than leaving it in the bank.

Any-Welder4292

I don't know man, from around $15k to $126k was bull enough for me. Price can go up again, even creating new ATH, sure. But I don't think it will be worth it to chase that pump. Except if you are trading, maybe

One_Mind8437

Yea but obviously I mean within the next two weeks. Yes, I know of the crypto winter and etc and ATH may be over. But a rebound is likely.

theincognito66

Price could be rebounding as quickly as it fell. Leveraged positions got liquidated and it affected the price heavily over the last couple weeks. Now FOMO could be setting in the longer the price hovers above 90k. I don't see anything fake - the numbers tell the story. We didn't even retouch the 52-week low during this crash from ATH. Expect a lot of resistance approaching 100k again... there will be a lot of selling from people that can't handle this kind of volatility. I don't see us dropping below 80k before the end of the year.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

They're so sneaky, they might even create a new ATH, maybe even push this to $150K, to make us think we're still in a bull market. What a bunch of weasels.

markprice211

Are you currently over leveraged? If Bitcoin went to $0 tomorrow would losing all the money you invested significantly change your life, or would you be able to recover fairly easily? You sound fearful with is a concern here. So you bought at the previous ATH, you’re not alone. But your hope of $10+ million is delusional and should not be driving your investment in this innovative technology. Let’s get to the next ATH first.

markprice211

There will ALWAYS be a new ATH. Plain and simple. The question becomes can you hold on until Bitcoin finds it.

imfuckinglying2u

I need to see a new ATH before I feel safe to buy more.

nakedskiing

No. It won’t get anywhere near ATH again before going back down

VariatCA

They won't be "happy" until we're back at ATH's, and they realize they missed the absolute best buying opportunity of 2025.

LaurentDuboi

i think both, we might visit one last ATH (somewhere in the orange zone of the rainbow chart) and starting the bear market from 225k to 95k that will be around 55-60% decline from the top. I dont think we can loose 60-70% if we don’t enter a euphoric run.

Dramatic-Dimension-6

If the FED will lower the interest rate in Dec, there will be a chance that it will hit ATH again

Budget_Eye5861

You are absolutely correct. The dates are gonna be a little off from the past 3X the cycle has processed. ATH was OCT 6th 2025 Next LOW is around 29-AUG-29 at a range of $18,900 USD - $67,000 USD You can choose to watch also. I like to play.

diskent

It’s still going to touch $55-$65k before we get a new ATH, 4 year cycles..

EnolaGayFallout

Nope, it will go bottom in a year time and hit another ATH in 1000 days.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, November 26th:** 2025 - $89,982 2024 - $91,985 2023 - $37,479 2022 - $16,464 2021 - $53,570 2020 - $17,151 2019 - $7,218 2018 - $3,779 2017 - $9,331 2016 - $735 2015 - $353 2014 - $368 2013 - $970 2012 - $12.3 2011 - $2.5 2010 - $0.30 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $1.80 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 925300; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 10.55 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.58MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 152.27 trillion; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 27-Nov-2025 (within 44 blocks). The mining difficulty is currently expected to decrease 2.12% to 149.04 trillion. Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $281,194 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miners' revenue for the last 7 days is $39.48M; with the average daily miners' profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0376 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 124,700 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 24,454 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 1.051 zettahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $77.95 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 381,824. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 3.23 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $0.70; with the median values being 1.17 sats/VB & $0.26 respectively. There are currently 19.95M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.05M to be mined. There are currently 4.0M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 20.06% of circulating supply. There are currently 57,078,675 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 165.76M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 26-Nov-2025 is $19,218. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $102,965. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 1,111 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 11.11 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $124,752.53 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,491.21 on 10-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin is down 28.70% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 11 days in 2025. It has been 51 days since the last ATH.

LooseSpot4597

I've timed it well a few times now and there is no way you should be buying a significant amount at the end of a halving cycle. Fucking lol $4 mil at 30 in UK is like top 0.1% at worst. I thought I was out of touch but you're even worse than me, Here's the thing, it looks like it has already peaked and hasn't even doubled the last ATH. However fluctuations between lows and high aren't decreasing at the same rate and it still seems to be holding the cycle timings extremely well. If I'm wrong and it suddenly pulls the cat out of the bag I don't even mind too much because it means it's got years of crazy gains which I wasn't expecting. But if this doesn't happen I will be up big time from what I'm doing.

e-cosmic

Always dollar cost average since no one knows if next dip will liquidate more of the market especially when market pushing ATH.

biba8163

**BTC** BTC itself is a speculative asset with the narrative of digital gold. It's a digital asset with no intrinsic value except the speculative value we give it. Satoshi: > *As a thought experiment, imagine there was a base metal as scarce as gold*... > ..and one special, magical property: > - can be transported over a communications channel > *If it somehow acquired any value* at all for whatever reason, then anyone wanting to transfer wealth over a long distance could buy some, transmit it, and have the recipient sell it. > Maybe it could get an initial value circularly as you've suggested, by people foreseeing its potential usefulness for exchange. (I would definitely want some) Maybe collectors, any random reason could spark it. Alts are double speculative and need BTC to go up and then hope that BTC carries it along. They have on average a 0.90+ correlation coefficient to BTC. They have no independent value in and of themselves despite the narratives sold to you. **XRP** > Nostro/Vostro, ODL, the Standard, Global Settlement Currency, MoneyGram, SWIFT, Japanese Banks Yet XRP price today is the same as it was 8 years ago in 2017. Almost a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ Despite the bullshit narratives, XRP has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - -92% in BTC bear market from 2014-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - Modest rise in 2021 BTC bull market - Dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2018 ATH again in 2024 when BTC bull runs to $100K **LINK** > CCIP, CCID, VRF, CRE, SWIFT, Muh Town Crier will tell you the Truth, Hocus Pocus Oracles will serve you Truths from Golden Data Containers Yet LINK price today is the same as it was 5 years ago in 2020. Exactly half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20200815/ Despite the bullshit narratives, LINK has no independent value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun - -$2 to $20 ATH in 2020 when BTC went from $4K to $12K bouncing off the Covid lows and into tge halvening pump - ATH of ~$50 in 2021 BTC bullrun - -90% in 2022 BTC bear market - Left behind ever since **ETH** > DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations will be the corporations of the future), Triple Halving, Supply Crunch, DeFi (Decentralized Finance will replace Traditional Finance), RWA, muh Institutions, the Plumbing of WallStreet.... Yet ETH price today is the same as May 2021. 4 1/2 years. Almost half a decade of dead money investing in it. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20210514/ Despite the bullshit narratives, ETH has no independant value in itself but can only appreciate when BTC goes on a bullrun and carries it higher. - No real appreciation in BTC bear market from 2015-2016 - 1,000s% gain in 2017 BTC bullmarket - -92% in 2018-2020 BTC bear market - 900% gain in 2021 BTC bull market - -70% dump again in 2022-2023 BTC bear market - Touches 2021 ATH again in 2025 when BTC bull runs to $120K

biba8163

The market is maturing and consolidating. - BTC Marketcap 5.4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Top 4 Alts Marketcap 4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Total Alt Marketcap 3.1X since 2017 BTC ATH - Stablecoin Marketcap 320X since 2017 BTC ATH Innovation is just crypto hype to sell you a bunch of shitcoins that make the founders and VC rich. The Use Cases are that are being adopted are clear: - Store of value = BTC - Payments, transfers, remittances = Stablecoins - Rails for Stablecoins = Ethereum, Tron, Solana, ETH L2s, etc. - Privacy *(Very little wide level public interest but honorable mention here)* There has been little innovation of anything can can provide real world value and adoption outside BTC. Remember, the Omni Layer was created on top of Bitcoin that allowed custom token ownership and transfer in the network which allowed for the creation of ICOs and the launch of Tether on the Bitcoin network. Other networks like Ethereum and Tron now provide the rails for Stablecoins instead of BTC which functions as a decentralized store of value. Remember what Vitalik said in 2018 that Altcoins are defacto Layer 2s for Bitcoin. Stablecoins have just moved to BTC Layer 2s (Altcoins) for better efficiency as rails. | | Dec. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | Nov. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $0.32T | $1.23T | $1.73T | Top 4 Alts | $0.163T | $0.8123T | $0.68T | Total Alt | $0.282T | $1.52T | $0.97T | Stablecoin | $0.001T | $0.11T | $0.32T | Total Crypto| $0.603T | $2.86T | $3.02T | **Top 4 Alt Dom. over Alts**| **57.80%** | **53.44%** | **70.10%** | **BTC Dom. Over Top 4** | **66.25%** | **60.23%** | **71.78%** | **BTC Total Alt Dominance** | **53.16%** | **44.73%** | **64.07%** **Any dominance indicated is measured excluding stablecoins* Reminder, Rails for Stablecoins need to remain cheap: > in order to compete with other chains, Ethereum will have to scale and that has seen the rise of L2/sidechains which results in loss transaction fees and MEV tips essentially stealing value from ETH. This essentially turns Ethereum, Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains, etc into competing networks for DeFi casinos and rails for StablecCoin transfers where they have to remain cheap or utility and users will move to competing chains. (September 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1f9ef5k/daily_general_discussion_september_5_2024/llmkgtm/

etrigan_

If you bought altcoins, check what happened to them from top to bottom last cycle. Most of them didn't recover to previous ATH, with the largest ones (ETH and SOL) just marginally recovering. The easy part is to buy, so do it on the right time. The hardest part is to sell, especially if you need to cut losses. My tip to you is: There's no painless solution. Adjust your portfolio according to YOUR risk assessment. Sell what need to be sold and be prepared to whatever comes to the market. Forget how you will "appear" to the community. The 'community' won't be there for you when you need money for whatever it is that you are investing for. \- IF this is the beginning of a bear (which is my guess) we are not going to see new ATH. Maybe a 'dead cat bounce' (much lower than previous highs) to then run to the bottom. How would you approach that? \- IF you sell some and we go to ATH, how much would that affect you? There's no right answer. Just what seems ok for you. Don't follow the herd.

biba8163

The market is maturing and consolidating. - BTC Marketcap 5.4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Top 4 Alts Marketcap 4X since 2017 BTC ATH - Total Alt Marketcap 3.1X since 2017 BTC ATH - Stablecoin Marketcap 320X since 2017 BTC ATH Innovation is just crypto hype to sell you a bunch of shitcoins that make the founders and VC rich. The Use Cases are that are being adopted are clear: - Store of value = BTC - Payments, transfers, remittances = Stablecoins - Rails for Stablecoins = Ethereum, Tron, Solana, ETH L2s, etc. - Privacy *(Very little wide level public interest but honorable mention here)* There has been little innovation of anything can can provide real world value and adoption outside BTC. Remember, the Omni Layer was created on top of Bitcoin that allowed custom token ownership and transfer in the network which allowed for the creation of ICOs and the launch of Tether on the Bitcoin network. Other networks like Ethereum and Tron now provide the rails for Stablecoins instead of BTC which functions as a decentralized store of value. Remember what Vitalik said in 2018 that Altcoins are defacto Layer 2s for Bitcoin. Stablecoins have just moved to BTC Layer 2s (Altcoins) for better efficiency as rails. | | Dec. 2017 | Nov. 2021 | Nov. 2025 |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | $0.32T | $1.23T | $1.73T | Top 4 Alts | $0.163T | $0.8123T | $0.68T | Total Alt | $0.282T | $1.52T | $0.97T | Stablecoin | $0.001T | $0.11T | $0.32T | Total Crypto| $0.603T | $2.86T | $3.02T | **Top 4 Alt Dom. over Alts**| **57.80%** | **53.44%** | **70.10%** | **BTC Dom. Over Top 4** | **66.25%** | **60.23%** | **71.78%** | **BTC Total Alt Dominance** | **53.16%** | **44.73%** | **64.07%** **Any dominance indicated is measured excluding stablecoins*

2shyofa3sum

No, I still don't think you understand. OP is terribly written, has nothing original to say, and was obviously penned by someone who has $28 of BTC purchased at ATH. And a compound matters, you're taunting the people you are preaching your BS to. Super rude and clingy with no value at all, hence why the mods should remove.

Any_Chart_6740

Bitcoin is going down to $65k before new ATH

Agreeable-Computer45

I listen to this every time there is a new ATH. https://youtu.be/nJeddv1QbeQ Good times!

Aus_Dave

This cycle the supply halved and the ATH doubled. Logical. While we all love Bitcoin, the expectation of $150k soon is unlikely unless there are enough retail buyers to take it much higher. Market makers wouldn't hold at $150k unless they think this is the last dip down to $150k and (imho) that would make sense next cycle - which will be here soon enough. This cycle we went from \~$16k to \~$126k. Wow. How much more do we want? Be happy.

Simke11

And its still further from ATH than BTC, and not even counting the fact that it barely set one.

CharlesMcGrath

Btc has historically been halving, and then rising back up to a new ATH. My advice would be to buy at every every halving, and sell when it goes back up to last season's ATH. Don't try to sell at the new ATH. The reason is because you can identify the halving. But you can't identify what the new ATH will be.

mosharp

Been holding for well over a decade and lived through crashes that were way worse. That being said, do what is right for yourself and your families. Nothing is guaranteed and it took me years and a lot of sheer luck to sell at an ATH. This time around I played it safe and it paid off. Politics and the economy go hand in hand…

Major-Rabbit1252

First time? You’re not averaging down when you’re expecting the price to increase long term. Unless you bought BTC like 3 months ago then you’ve profited if you’ve held the asset. Fear is when you should be buying. When you hear dramatic and exaggerated hyperbole like “retail has lost all hope 🥀” then you amp up your DCA and discount stack. BTC will eclipse a new ATH in the future, so miss me with the “averaging down” stuff

mybossthinksimworkin

Gonna keep going down guys make it 70 or 60k more realistic, will go back up but it’s going further down first before then and it will take a while. The overall economic situation is going to create the real bottom and the length of time to reach ATH. But keep stacking!! We’ll prevail!!

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moldyjellybean

Probably by 2027/2028 April will be brutal. No idea why but from what I remember April winter markets just hits some brutal lows 1.5 year after the high in Nov/Dec, I remember these clearly because I’ve been asked about it every thanksgiving and Christmas dinner during the near ATH then like no talk about it for 3 years then ATH and family dinners in Nov/Dec are always talks about going back 10+ years then look at next April and going WTF happened.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, November 25th:** 2025 - $86,464 2024 - $93,102 2023 - $37,797 2022 - $16,522 2021 - $57,275 2020 - $18,732 2019 - $7,146 2018 - $4,010 2017 - $8,791 2016 - $742 2015 - $328 2014 - $375 2013 - $830 2012 - $12.5 2011 - $2.5 2010 - $0.30 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $1.73 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 925158; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 10.31 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.56MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 152.27 trillion; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 27-Nov-2025 (within 186 blocks). The mining difficulty is currently expected to decrease 2.75% to 148.08 trillion. Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $270,200 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miners' revenue for the last 7 days is $40.24M; with the average daily miners' profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0383 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 124,842 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 24,171 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 1.049 zettahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $83.16 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 377,023. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 3.26 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $0.74; with the median values being 1.2 sats/VB & $0.28 respectively. There are currently 19.95M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.05M to be mined. There are currently 4.0M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 20.06% of circulating supply. There are currently 57,070,816 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 165.86M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 25-Nov-2025 is $19,205. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $103,002. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 1,157 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 11.57 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $124,752.53 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,491.21 on 10-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin is down 31.49% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 11 days in 2025. It has been 50 days since the last ATH.

PM02NY

Well you’re entitled to your opinion but with all due respect, I don’t really care if you think if I will or won’t do anything. Life is better when you can try and treat people with respect and give everyone you speak with the benefit of the doubt. So with that said I’ll stop with the low blows. People will have different opinions than you. Tell me why you think it’s going back to 125k soon. I’m all ears. I’m not a financial guru/investor, I just see first hand the economic shit show happening all over the world and times are getting harder and harder financially for everyone. I wish that wasn’t the case. If people can’t afford to pay their bills and unemployment rates hit all time highs, people won’t be buying bitcoin and selling to survive, same with stocks and other investments. Other than try to insult me you haven’t given a single reason why you think it’s going to continue to go up back to ATH, other than “trust me bro”.

553l8008

And it will reach new ATH,  you will see

_SlipperySalmon_

you want us to believe you just yolod 3.5 BTC at ATH and now are panicking about it?

namieorange

Oh. And how about the other data that it goes close to the previous cycle ATH every single time as a bottom That it bottoms in the 200W MA Also that it always closes post halving year in massive green Also that it never reaches ATH before halving Thanks for letting us know your favorite cherrypicked stat

panthera_N

04/2021 : ATH1 65K 11/2021 : ATH2 69K \----------------------------------------- 01/2025 : ATH1 109K 10/2025 : ATH2 126K Just kidding, we haven't reached ATH yet, maybe 170k eoy

SaladBob22

Why didn't you sell at $120k if your intent was to buy lower? It most definitely would have gone below that range within the next year, and you are selling near ATH. 

iz_raymond

They probably know atp, it's going to be a long winter season for crypto. Nothing new really, every bull run and ATH this will happen. So they are just reacting to the trend and trade accordingly. In this case, shorting MSTR in a bear market. Not that strange really

baIIern

The Bitcoin he stole was near its ATH now he gets nervous

OldPyjama

I really hope this comes true, but to be honest, I think the cycle's over and we're headed for a bear market. We'll just have to be patient for a new ATH.

Benzo_Head

Twitter is full of retarded permabulls calling for a new ATH nearly 20 months after the halving. I’m 99% certain we’ll be at 50k next year

Kind_Boot4750

TA structure is fine, but higher highs and higher lows don’t override macro cycle structure. We just came off an ATH in October historically Bitcoin always gives you HH/HL traps during the post-top bleed. 2013, 2017, 2021 all had multiple fake ‘uptrend confirmations’ before rolling over another 30–50%. An 88K reclaim doesn’t invalidate the larger cycle downtrend. This is still the distribution → breakdown → lower high → continuation phase. In other words: yes, short-term bounces happen. But cycle-wise, the bottom is still 10–14 months after the top. We’re nowhere near that point yet

dickpicnumber1

Of course! We literally fell through 90k like a brick last week, so don’t expect BTC to just walk upwards through that level like it’s nothing. Same applies to the 100k range, and the 107k+ range. A small trend reversal doesn’t mean imminent ATH at all, but that seems to be the illusion a few of us believe in.

dickpicnumber1

Absolutely, because the market failing to gain 107k is exactly what led to this dump. People assume once we get out of this hole, it’s just a matter of time until we score a new ATH. But they forget that the 107k has proven to be a make it or break it range.

Aetheriju

Okay but why was Oct 06 2025 actually the most recent ATH tho👀

Xennenial

I'm just DCAing good coins that have enough real world and institutional adoption that to insulate them from complete failure. That way I don't have to worry about the price action of the next few days, next few weeks, or next few years. For instance, my 2 biggest buys this dip we $LINK at $11.84 and $ATH at $0.015. Look how many traditional finance institutions that are using chainlink to build their future tokenization projects. Look at how much revenue $ATH network will earn this year v. its market cap (price earnings ratio) way undervalued by traditional finance metrics.

piggleii

Nekminnit ATH NFA

tmcnix

I fear this is a dead cat’s bounce, if history repeats we will see the price fall as low as 36,000 USD then oscillate from 36-56K for 1-3 years before its next ATH (~250K). But the funny thing about BTC’s history… is that the last crypto winter was before institutional backing and the start of institutional backing is what instigated the previous bull run and ATH. If prices fall below 55k it’s my opinion that the price drop will be “fabricated” by those institutional players to reconsolidate the bitcoin network into the pockets of the global elite and out of the hands of the people. Bitcoin has the potential to free the people, but right now it when that thesis is being tested… And for that reason, I refuse to sell. LETS LIMBO!

harvested

I think the lines are already beginning to blur, but no, wouldn't a December rally to ATH be in line with the cycle? IMO a cycle break would be 2025 = flat or down, 2026 = up year or ATH.

No_Personality1366

Although your % decline is correct historically has been correct, there is a more practical bottom indicator than taking 1/4 to 1/5 the ATH. If you measure the VWAP from the previous cycle peak you get the bottoming area of the current cycle. When you do that for the previous cycle ATH of 70k you get approx 50k for this cycle bottom. This method has proven true for every cycle

DexterTwerp

Hypothetically let’s say Bitcoin goes to new ATH within the next month or two. What then? 4 year cycle over?

yiliu

The idea is that the line will never cross itself...until it finally does, at which point this graph will no longer be interesting. People used to make a big deal out of the fact that the price never dropped below the previous-cycle ATH. Then during the last drop, it briefly did drop below, and people just stopped talking about previous ATHs.

YogSothothIsTheKey

I too am convinced that this is probably the bottom. The fear among people has spread so much, I have heard from more disappointed friends who have exited the market either at a loss or with little profit and no longer want to return (which they will probably do when we are above the ATH again). I believe that enough coins have been taken away from weak hands given and considering that few new retails have entered in this last cycle (until now at least and I believe that they will then enter en masse with the hype when the whole market rises significantly massive).

gonzoes

They rinse and repeat this cycle of “the world is gonna end! “. Then they all cashed out around 120k now we’re back to 86k they jump back in and pump it back to ATH

Prize-Feature2485

From 80 to 89 in 2 nights, I would not be shock it goes ATH end of the year.

FnAardvark

I'm not saying the market is going lower or higher, because i don't make predictions or care. Having said that, you're not the first person to start doing a victory lap after 1 green day. Not to mention, were down almost 40k from ATH. Maybe dial it back a bit.

baIIern

Just like the 2021 ATH was delayed too lol

Abject-Stretch-1187

Cycles no longer existed the moment we hit previous ATH before halving. It will be solidified if we close the year below 93k 

LooseSpot4597

I think it's possible but unlikely to very unlikely given how strongly the cycle played out and how it would be expected to crash from now on if the cycle is true (which again it certainly seems to be). It will reach ATH again but imo not for at least a couple years now.

AlternativeTie4738

IF this is the bear market starting, we can atleast expect a countertrend rally to the 50 week SMA(100k roughly). Which has happened every cycle. Ill celebrate whenever btc breaches ATH. Tbh I think we’re done for this cycle.

krudeo

Regardless of whether it is Bitcoin this time, tomorrow it could be a stock. But have you tried learning technical analysis? What I see in your post is that there was no technical analysis, risk management, potential ATH based on Fibonacci (121K was the potential target where anyone should have sold at least a majority part), resistances and supports, etc. I recommend you start studying, you can have certain approaches on YouTube but it is not material that is really worth it except the basics. There are also groups specialized in Trading, some are good, others are total garbage. The educational material that will define you in the coming years will not be found on YouTube in any case, and you will have to pay for it, so I recommend that you save some money and time, and start studying

LooseSpot4597

I've been in bitcoin for a while and sold $1.3 mil worth at about $110k just over a month ago now. Honestly bro you shouldn't be gloating until it's at or at least approaching all time high again. For the past year or so the gains have been slowing down and it has just had a fairly major crash. Most concerningly (and the reason I sold) it was due to crash according to the halving cycles and despite all the "it's different this time" claims it seems like history is repeating itself. While I'm disappointed it only peaked at $125k given I was expecting $150k a few years ago I have no regrets selling and am fairly certain it's over now. Of course as always the only people who are going to get really fucked are those who sold way too early (based on halving cycles) or those who panic sell near the bottom. It will be at ATH again within 5 years.

Aerocryptic

If the recovery continues, at what price will you sell? 100k? 110k? Wait for another ATH?

DexterTwerp

Why do we think there’s such a gap between where the SP500 is and where Bitcoin is relative to their ATH?

Confident_Section568

Also RSI is oversold on all time frames how are we going down then Give these people one more day of green and they will be screaming ATH and altseason again

devCheckingIn

I'm waiting for a new ATH to buy.

ProjectStrange3331

I’m no expert, but a 30+% correction from ATH may be it. Don’t be greedy. It already back to 87 from 80 a few days ago. I’m buying extra above my DCA on a daily basis just in case this is it but I will certainly welcome more discounts.

TheWisestManAlive14

I don't know how much money you have to invest in it which is important in this decision. If you intend to hold it long term 4+ years you won't regret buying it right now at $87k or any amount under $100k for that matter, when it is well past it's current ATH sometime within the next 4 years & this could possibly happen in the near future, in which you would not have to wait the full 4 years. just earlier this year tons of people were saying I would buy some if it goes under 100k and it went 20% below 100k, I think hoping it becomes cheaper and cheaper is risking missing out on an already great opportunity in the long game. If you are looking to hold it short term then I would probably purchase some now with about 25% - 50% of what I intend to invest in it, depending on if I'm bullish or bearish. I would then wait for it to close on a day above $95K and then buy another 25% as that could be a clear signal that it's moving in a bullish direction and the low 80's was the floor. Once it broke a major resistance price point I would buy the rest or wait for rejection and buy the bottom of the rejection and hope it breaks through on the retest. I would also set purchase orders at lower and lower prices if it doesn't close above 95k before going back down. I personally think that the recent low was it's floor, but there is a possibility it goes down to $74k, I don't see it going lower than that even though bears are trying to push for it. Those lower price predictions below 74k are similar to the bulls who predict 3-10x price increases during bull runs, anything is possible but they're not realistic.

Impossible_Soup_1932

Just like Bitcoin never goes below the previous cycle ATH, right? Everything works until it doesn’t

No_Broccoli_4427

yea thats what i honestly thought until this halving ATH hit ~120K on oct 6th as predicted following cycle theory. next ~315 days of bear market

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, November 24th:** 2025 - $86,374 2024 - $98,014 2023 - $37,720 2022 - $16,604 2021 - $56,280 2020 - $19,107 2019 - $7,048 2018 - $3,881 2017 - $8,254 2016 - $740 2015 - $320 2014 - $377 2013 - $795 2012 - $12.4 2011 - $2.4 2010 - $0.30 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $1.72 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 925015; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 10.53 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.57MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 152.27 trillion; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 26-Nov-2025 (within 329 blocks). The mining difficulty is currently expected to decrease 1.64% to 149.78 trillion. Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $269,919 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miners' revenue for the last 7 days is $41.09M; with the average daily miners' profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0391 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 124,985 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 24,017 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 1.051 zettahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $85.98 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 379,228. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 3.54 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $0.81; with the median values being 1.34 sats/VB & $0.31 respectively. There are currently 19.95M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.05M to be mined. There are currently 4.01M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 20.08% of circulating supply. There are currently 57,054,922 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 166.07M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 24-Nov-2025 is $19,193. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $103,047. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 1,158 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 11.58 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $124,752.53 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,491.21 on 10-Oct-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $126,198.07 on 06-Oct-2025. Bitcoin is down 31.56% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 11 days in 2025. It has been 49 days since the last ATH.

user_name_checks_out

I too would expect a cycle low end 2026, if it happens. So the big question is whether or not we'll have another ATH before then. I hope you're right! Bottom line, nobody knows for sure what will happen, and all we can do is wait and see and hodl.

XRP_SPARTAN

Dumb money Saylor has an average entry that's above the 2021 ATH. Bitcoin is up nearly 1000% since he joined while his stash is up 20%. He captured only 2% of Bitcoin's growth since 2020.

user_name_checks_out

You are tempting fate there my friend. We are at the end of a bull run. I will be very pleasantly surprised if bitcoin has another ATH in it this cycle. And I will be very pleasantly surprised if we don't enter another deep freeze.

Determined_to_heal

Interesting analysis. To be honest though I think your ATH is not going to be reached in 2029. I say that accounting for diminishing returns.

Real-Technician831

With assets, only recent gains matter, as WTF would someone buying now care how much an asset gained between 2021-2024, if the future expected gains don’t look attractive enough. Besides adjusted to inflation, 2021 ATH would be around $80K in today’s money.

FnAardvark

If you belive in both, thrn sell the one that's nearly ar an ATH, not the one that's in the middle of a pullback.

JJF-Tradekix

I believe this bull run isn’t over. I’m expecting 150k ish as BTC seems to triple the previous ATH

One-Tough9061

Also to update you all.. during this 1.5 months, I have invested (DCA+spot trade) 45k USD, still have 12k USDC to ride through the fear market. CMC now is 10, meaning extreme fear and I see the price already bottoms at 80K and today it bounced back to 87K. We are still in cycle 4, past 1 month is NOT bear market, but a mid term trap. I think ATH will be around Q1 2026 at 150-180K follow by 1 year bear market till EOY 2026 This is definitely not financial advise, the reason I could invest so heavily is because I want BTC to take up a certain percentage of my portfolio. Even now am not there yet. So portfolio rebalancing is more prudent than go all in

bobbyv137

If we assume $126k was the top the a typical 70% correction takes us down to the 30s, yes. It’s amusing how people keep saying things are different and this or that won’t happen. But - yet again - Bitcoin just does the same thing. It seems to have topped in Q4 the year after the halving. Again. It has shown diminishing returns. Again. So we must respect the precedent. That means a massive correction will likely ensue. You can argue all day about ETFs, US gov, Stratey etc. Funny thing is that didn’t stop it going from $126k to $80k in the blink of an eye. It’s wild to think Bitcoin how has to go up 50% just to match the ATH!

might_not_beam_me

Bitcoin is going 70-80% of ATH, which is around 35 to 40K. Sell now for 4000. use the frist 2000 for what ever it is. Put in the rest 2000 when BTC nears 45K. You will have 4x in 2028.