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Current-Run-2750

Im in agreement with you. I was saying horrible advice to the comment where he said dont buy at ATH.

lVloogie

How is it horrible? If you bought at ATH almost anytime in the last 15 years, you'd be up. People said that at $10, $100, $1,000, $10,000, now $100,000.

gcashin97

Vast majority of all alt coin volume is made up of high frequency trading market makers. That won't ever change. That's the reason they all move along the same trend A lot of the times alts natural volume is selling pressure...hence why btc hits ATH and top alts like Sol and ETH are nowhere near where they were when btc topped out in December. This is why everyone says to just go 100% btc. There are thousands of alts and there will be thousands more. There will likely be an alt that surpasses $1 trillion at some point, could be ETH could be Sol could be any other shit coin that does the exact same thing. No one knows, alts are just gambling.

HopiumLurker

All the sure money is going to BTC and with eth lagging the market it doesn't feel like the previous altcoin boom because it hasn't gone up towards its ATH. And there's so many good layer 1s with no huge gwei/transfer cost no one is buying eth until there's a reason to. It doesn't help no one has any spare cash to throw at the market either. Essentially just hoping eth starts grooving

MagixTouch

Yeah but there will be a shitty written article written at that point. It will be about how Bitcoin will soar past a new ATH and blah blah blah.

Change0062

Sol is really great for actually paying stuff I real time, but if it comes to speculation, I bet everthing on ETH breaking it's ATH in the coming weeks.

MrYoshinobu

We are still near at ATH's for BTC. Don't trade it...just buy and keep HODLing. Ain't nothing stopped Bitcoin. It's use case is far superior than anything else on the market!

type_error

I know alt season is a still birth / abortion But…. Anyone paying attention to EGLD/ multiversX? I know it’s had an identity crisis but it seems like a robust chain with constantly “improving? / evolving?” Tokenomics. Also has active development and funded participation.  That said, it’s from Romania, sorta kinda sketchy… not saying Romania are sketchy… but the hype behind it feels sketchy. Anyway… it had major price surges and peaked at $500 a coin and is now down to $14. Not saying it will make a come back to ATH but you never know, solana made a huge comeback.  Thinking I should have dumped it in December… anyone here following the project and thinks it has hope? Losing faith myself.

loteman77

I for one, am glad I don’t have to constantly look at my portfolio. Boring is good for my sanity. So long as BTC keeps going up (ATH last week) I’m happy.

AllGeniusHost

Ur an idiot we hit a new ATH last year

CockroachAdvanced578

Yea but Doge is still down like 70% off it's ATH from 4 years ago. If holding that turd is exciting than I'll take boring. Alts seem to have lost the juice and can't keep up with bitcoin.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, June 14th:** 2025 - $104,982 2024 - $66,011 2023 - $25,125 2022 - $22,207 2021 - $40,218 2020 - $9,387 2019 - $8,694 2018 - $6,675 2017 - $2,506 2016 - $686 2015 - $234 2014 - $583 2013 - $100 2012 - $5.9 2011 - $19.3 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $2.09 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 901215; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 9.74 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.39MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 126.41 trillion hashes; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 30-Jun-2025 (within 1,953 blocks). Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $328,067 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miner's revenue for the last 7 days is $49.75M; with the average daily miner's profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0535 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 148,785 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 22,051 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 938 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $51.55 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 358,882. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 4.56 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $1.41; with the median values being 1.8 sats/VB & $0.56 respectively. There are currently 19.88M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.12M to be mined. There are currently 3.42M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 17.20% of circulating supply. There are currently 55,139,721 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 170.34M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 14-Jun-2025 is $16,443. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $95,133. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 953 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 9.53 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $111,673.28 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,182.68 on 03-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin is down 6.24% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 3 days in 2025. It has been 23 days since the last ATH.

Glittering-Local-147

I bought at ATH in 2017. Turned out to not be wrong. If nobody buys at ATH then a new one can't be made

Ill_Imagination_6791

Because of btc cycle. It will go down little to go up another ATH and winter start at end of year

muchmoneysuchmoney

Best traders buy at ATH duh

biba8163

**Crypto 101** Alts have NO value of their own. Alts do NOT attract capital on their own. Historically, an Alt like ETH has a correlation coefficient to BTC of 0.96 and only gains value when BTC goes on bullruns. Alts only appreciate and get capital after money flows into BTC and flows out seeking more profit. Notice how ETH only hits new ATHs after BTC hits tops/local tops and profits flow to Alts: > - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 > - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K > - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 > - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021 **Crypto 102** The market is changed. The data is indisputable but Alt bagholders and influencers keep cheerleading themselves off a cliff to Altseason. In previous cycles, Alts like ETH, LTC, DOGE already had made their biggest gains 1-Year from the Halvening date NOT at EOY next year after halvening. **This time around these Alts and the Total Alt Marketcap actually has lost value since halvening** and show zero indication of masking any parabolic gains like we saw in previous cycles or gains whatsoever. | ETH | Halvening Date | 1-YR Post Halvening | |:-----------|------------:|:------------:| | July 2016-17 | $11 | $199 | May 2020-21 | $210 | $2,800 | April 2024-25 | $3,157 | $1,580 | **LTC** | July 2016-17 | $4 | $40 | May 2020-21 | $40 | $377 | April 2024-25 | $85 | $77 | **DOGE** | July 2016-17 | $0.0002 | $0.001 | May 2020-21 | $0.002 | $0.49 | April 2024-25 | $0.16 | $0.15 | **Alt Marketcap** *(Excluding Stablecoins)* | July 2016-17 | $2.05 Billion | $52.17 Billion | May 2020-21 | $74.81 Billion | $1.34 Trillion | April 2024-25 | $1.09 Trillion | $0.76 Trillion With Institutional, Corporate, TradFi and Nation State money, BTC's has a strangehold on capital that is never leaving BTC to chase Alts. | 2025 | Holdings | |:-----------|------------:|:------------:| | ETFs (Global) | $151.22 Billion | Public Companies | $81.57 Billion | Nation States | $57.78 Billion | Private Companies | $43.45 Billion | **Total** | **$334.02 Billion** The fact that this cycle has been different and that capital will not flow into Alts has been evident since November but again bagholders and scammer influencers are still clueless and continue to cirlejerk Alt season. > Noobs who weren't around in 2016 and 2020, you should know that 2024 looks very very different so far than at this time frame in 2016 and 2020. (Nov. 5, 2024) > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gkfvzs/bitcoin_price_crushing_altcoins_heading_into_us/lvlrry1/ > The market is changing: ETFs, MSTR, etc account for a lot of the inflows. This money is not going to leave BTC seeking greater return on Alts (Nov. 13, 2024) > https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1gq6ahm/daily_general_discussion_november_13_2024/lwymxl9/ > Each cycle is a bit different. Too many people are saying, just hold on to your coins, it's playing out exactly the same. (Nov. 13, 2024) > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gqexix/why_are_there_so_few_active_users_when_btc_is_at/lwxx36a/ > Be careful of people telling you this cycle is playing out exactly the same. ETFs, institutional and mainstream involvement, memecoins, L2 options and ETH competitors, it's very different (Nov. 19, 2024) > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gujmk1/daily_crypto_discussion_november_19_2024_gmt0/lxyt5pw/

Willing_Coach_8283

Buying at ATH is definitely wrong

lamensterms

This is logical I can't argue at all. Something that has always fascinated me with HBAR is the fees are fixed in USD, so the scarcity is kind of an illusion, as virtual supply can be expanded by price appreciation This isn't a fully formed thought, but something I have been considering for a long time Hedera is one of my favourite projects and I have held since previous ATH, but the tokenomics are fascinating and don't quite work until fully supply is released

Relevant_Area3167

Why would I be jealous about buying at ATH levels LMAO.

Relevant_Area3167

Good job buying at near ATH.

Shadrock50

My point is anytime you buy an asset that is within a few % of its ATH, thats a bad time to buy.

Ill_Orchid8232

Man Im not talkin bout 112k…. ATH is going to be wayyyy beyond that end of the cycle. Could literally put $1000 into it and make free money on a smooth ride to December.

Gelato_Mulatto

Has it really done nothing? It’s been in a bull market since October ‘23, going from last cycle’s ATH of $69k to $112k recently. Considering there’s been diminishing returns with every cycle, that’s a pretty damn good run.

Gelato_Mulatto

Has it really done nothing? It’s been in a bull market since October ‘23, going from last cycle’s ATH of $69k to $112k recently. Considering there’s been diminishing returns with every cycle, that’s a pretty damn good run.

Glittering-Local-147

I get your point, it's just a more dynamic and active way to go about when simply buying and holding Bitcoin has never been a bad idea even at ATH. So when you are saying "yeah buy at ATH.. great idea" sarcastically when in fact it always has been. Are you up 5x yet?

muchmoneysuchmoney

Btc is close to ATH and you wanna sell? Eth seems great too. Crazy etf inflows.

DankShibe

War dip. Go away from crypto until the santa run. All top 15 alts will surpass ATH.

UrAn8

Would agree the time is now. Doesn’t make sense to hold bitcoin when it’s already right around its ATH and blue chips are down as much as they are. After winter is the time to rotate into stable coins then DCA into bitcoin through the bull

deanus_bruh

Half the sub will ignore the discount and re-buy near ATH

Major_Yogurt6595

Ethereum, obviously. You know it will break ATH 2x soon.

chuckrabbit

The S&P500 is less than 3% off of ATH. I’m not sure what you’re investing in but basically everything has recovered.

Ill_Orchid8232

BTC is nowhere near ATH. It should hit 150-200k this cycle. And will continue to go up as it is adopted for main source of asset reserve 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, June 13th:** 2025 - $104,727 2024 - $66,756 2023 - $25,919 2022 - $22,487 2021 - $39,098 2020 - $9,475 2019 - $8,231 2018 - $6,350 2017 - $2,717 2016 - $704 2015 - $232 2014 - $610 2013 - $104 2012 - $5.9 2011 - $19.8 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $2.08 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 901085; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 9.85 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.41MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 126.98 trillion hashes; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 14-Jun-2025 (within 67 blocks). Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $327,273 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miner's revenue for the last 7 days is $49.15M; with the average daily miner's profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0538 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 148,915 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 22,059 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 927 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $48.59 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 351,352. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 4.36 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $1.34; with the median values being 1.66 sats/VB & $0.51 respectively. There are currently 19.88M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.12M to be mined. There are currently 3.41M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 17.15% of circulating supply. There are currently 55,134,125 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 170.29M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 13-Jun-2025 is $16,427. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $95,065. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 955 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 9.55 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $111,673.28 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,182.68 on 03-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin is down 6.47% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 3 days in 2025. It has been 22 days since the last ATH.

squid456-

Bitcoin yes, anything else isnt really anywhere near ATH prices

Glittering-Local-147

The futures bottom could be higher than today's top. You also have to factor in short term cap gains if you're playing that buy here sell here game when you're likely to do better just holding. Anybody who has bought BTC at ATH and held for 4 years has made a great decision thus far. So back to your original comment trying to shun somebody from doing so is just wrong.

Momento_Mori_24

Just like Ukraine Russian war btc dump a little after couple of days starting to recover then new ATH, Right now my psychological perspective that btc is making the same moves (middle east war) but who knows maybe this time is different Only time will tell, and that is the good things because nobody know what will happen🤣

Badshah619

Then so be it, more time to stack before the inevitable new ATH

Revolutionary-Pen-70

Still so strong even there is a war, will be huge ATH

Chrono-13

BTC is getting rejected at ~$110k resistance. A lot of selling. Sorry, couldn’t resist. 😂 Probably people thinking it’s gonna big dip again, so selling off that bounce back since ATH.

ScoobyD00BIEdoo

Buy daily, at ATH all coins are in profit.

soyuz-1

btc is almost always near an ATH. That tends to be the case with things that actually go up in value.

qik7

Still speculative I'm not saying he should sell just reevaluate now. Doge may return to its ATH eventually but even if it does it isnt necessarily thr quockest way there.

DaveyJonesXMR

Your analysis is bull. People will always be greedy and pump and dump alts... for one because it is way easier to do than in traditional markets... which BTC kinda is also a part of now. Alt season gains will always outnumber BTC gains which ATH multiplier lowers every cycle. Just don't stay too long in shitcoins

scott111184

I’m down 45% and -$1,700 with Doge. 1st time buying in I also bought at the ATH (was fairly new to all this). I have been buying more to lower my average. I got into it with a plan of holding for 15 years and I’m sticking to that. What you decide to do is 100% up to you but right now it’s unrealized loss, once you sell that becomes realized.

nicogalante1

Pure speculation. Just like when the war on Ukraine started. Price moved down massively, but war has not stopped and we have another ATH eventually. Honestly BTC price is not what worries me but the lives of the innocent.

Gronkkkkk

The OG dogecoin? Dont sell it… i will reach ATH no problem just ve patient… and i dont have it but i know doge is the biggest crypto cult OG cult… trust me it will reach ath

ozera202

This is the most boring cycle ever , idgaf if btc hit past 100k, it’s fuck all compared it last cycle ATH. If I m in crypto with high risk I want high reward , I’m better in stock market which is climbing more than crypto. I’m still in profit but it’s a constant effort analysing the market swing if we are entering a bear market and I don’t want to be caught holding during the down phase

Traditional-Fan-9315

Wow that's completely fallacious. Look at ATH from 17 and it was 12k and then 21 was 58k. But let's say you bought in 17 at 12k. It's 10x'd already and the bull run isn't over.

RariCalamari

Based on what can you better predict when we hit an ATH of 1 mil. What data points help better with that than previous ATHs?

LinoStar69

SP500 less than 2% from ATH

VariatCA

Damn, feels like just yesterday that BTC went up $4,000 in barely 18 hours... wait, yeah it was only 3 days ago lol. Just 3 weeks prior to that it did the same 4k jump up to a new ATH. Big Daddy's just range-trading and consolidating around the 105-110k zone, and the heavier your altcoin bags are, the more pain you're going to feel from its volatility. Sentiments for BTC/ETH still looking extremely solid for the near future, while markets slowly creep up on high hopes that economic tensions will soon be relieved. Have patience lol.

Medium_Change4574

AND telling you to buy at ATH lol

UrAn8

Sure but it’ll be more and more muted and more and more diluted. It used to be that you could literally pick any alt during the bear and as long as you weren’t rugged you’d make money. Now there are so many alt’s it’s hard to pick right + with Ethereum losing smart contract market share and there being tons of L2s it just doesn’t feel like the bitcoin -> eth -> alts waterfall of value will continue like it has. The fact both btc and eth hit all time highs around the same time the last two cycles, and bitcoin hit ATH a month ago and ETH hasn’t even gotten close should speak volumes. At least 50% of alts are tied to ETHs value. ETH price is the SINGLE metric that will predict the performance of a significant amount of the overall market.

Bullissimo

In dollars yes, but if you look at the BTC/EUR graph it's another story. No new ATH yet and BTC wasn't able to break 100k€ (which it did last ATH). BTC/USD is stable above 100k$ at the moment but imo it has more to do with the low value of the dollar...

Secret-Snow-6929

My wild experience with gold and bitcoin being the top leading investment vehicles. It all started while I was in the hospital in 2023 for a few days (recovering from an injury), which gave me a lot of time to think about how I could not blow through my money day trading, which I had done successfully until then. Rinse and repeat. I had to get off that wagon, so I thought, what is the most boring yet stable asset class? If I buy it, I can't trade it, which I have impulsively done so many times, and gold came to mind. Mind you at the time gold was trading at the year low and looking to go further Oct 23, btw should have bought Bitcoin then to at 30k I told my friend to buy bitcoin I promise you it will only go up the goal was to reach 100k which I thought was doable and hear we are do I regret, yes but I make another decision and was to buy in Oct ‘23 at the time when I went to look at it physically I had no idea as to what the expericce was like. I then found a bullion dealer in the Gold District. There are many, too. I just picked one and went with it. Multiple vendors buy and sell gold in the building on the same floor. So I decided to pick randomly this little old asian lady (she is safe and trustworthy), she asked me Can I help you and I said You can. I said I never purchssed gold before and no clue how or what or even the spot for the day (I had a general) I knew wanted to buy some gold so I cant get hand on my money and to create somewhat of a barrier to do so, I thought bullion that's my answer. She kindly said, " Oh, that's wonderful, you’re getting your first piece of gold, I said Yes, it would be I prefaced it by saying I don't want to get ripped off because at this point, I knew very little about it. She said Absolutely, I will help you and guide you to the right things with a gold investment. Unfortunately, she said I don't usually deal with gold; I do with silver and some diamonds. I asked her what the better investment was at the time, gold or silver? She replied well, son. Gold is near its ATH but down a lot in the past few days. She said it's a solid investment, but then she buys as much silver as you can. You know why, because it is severely undervalued, down significantly in the past year, and much lower than gold. The reason to buy now is that silver will recover and go higher. There is a lot more to go with silver than gold. Wow, she was emphatic about silver, I knew something about what she was saying felt right, and boy was she. I said I would like gold, though I know nothing about silver. She said that's ok, I can take you to our neighbor who deals in bullion. I said Are they honest people and she replied Yes, and fair. Ok, we went to a gold booth, and she introduced me to a lady and said this gentleman would like to buy some gold. I said that I know nothing about how to buy it, and if you could guide me through the process, she started. It all happened so fast and was like a blur, but before you knew it, I was handing over stacks of money (which at the time was a lot for me). It felt surreal to be parting with it to buy beautiful shiny bars and collectors' coins. Well, I did. I thanked them and left, but I have no idea where the price will go if it goes up or continues to drop. I told myself, You're not touching this, and let it sit. Stay put, period. It was no small amount, and I was highly nervous about transporting it. Luckily, I have it in a safety deposit box at the bank, which was another barrier for me to get it and start trading (gambling) with it. So it sat and I watched the price bumble around for a bit and learned as much as I could about the precious metal, seeing I had a small fortune of this stuff. And so it started to grow and get higher, hitting ATM highs. I remember watching YouTube videos on gold and dealers. I remember specifically what this one very successful and seasoned dealer said gold was $2300 ATH at the time he said if gold hits $2500 which he was skeptical but knew it possibly could be said I am going to sell half of all my holdings $2500 is a significant number and gold struggled for years around 1600-to break 2,000 it finally did so that never left my mind. Still, I watched in amazement as it continued to go higher and higher, hitting ATH each time, which amazed me, yet assured with what is occurring with the underlying fundamentals, the price was justified. The great thing about gold is that it is not violently volatile like Bitcoin can be, so it provided an investment I could watch grow without throwing up at a 10-40 % drop. Something to consider when you're looking to invest. This brings me to where I am today and the price of gold. I still believe gold is going higher, albeit slower, and not as a percentage, which is significantly higher than today's prices. I am targeting gold at 3k by 2026. I feel the time is right to pull my 48% gain out and reallocate it to another undervalued investment class. I think that it is most prudent to capture more gains. If you hold onto some precious or non-precious assets, such as Gold and Bitcoin, we are entering a whole new era where old and new asset classes will be turned on their heads. Gold and Bitcoin lead to the next chapter of reallocating investment classes. Thank you for hearing about my journey. I hope it helps anyone not considering holding, and I mean it with conviction. I want your advice on where I should invest the reallocated profits into a new investment vehicle, and what you think I should rotate into next as I continue exploring my investing journey.

SpontaneousDream

$HYPE is back near ATH, again, at $43.20. Hope you bought some when I first mentioned it here at around $25. u/LieutenantZucc lets see if they listen this time. Here's what's happening, and why I think $hype will go higher (beyond the obvious reasons I've mentioned previously). 1. HIP-3 has been on testnet since early May. Essentially, this upgrade will allow *anyone* in the world with 1 million $hype (currently approx $40 million dollars) to launch their own perpetual future on Hyperliquid. That is a game changer and extremely attractive for market makers, for a variety of reasons (very profitable, permisionless, deep liquidity, far easier than CEX listing process, etc.) 2. Recently, users have been able to track some of these market makers on testnet. They are testing out deploying perpetfual futures for NASDAQ, S and P 500, Gold, Oil, BTC.D, and more. Given that HIP-3 will allow perpetual futures to be listed in dutch-auction style every 31 hours, we could be looking at the potential for rapid growth in perp markets on Hyperliquid, which of course increases fees, which increases burn/buybacks of the $hype token as coded into the protocol (\~97% of fees are used to market buy $hype) 3. What I think is happening is that groups & market makers are getting together to acquire as much $hype as they can in preparation for HIP-3 on mainnet. We don't know when this will happen, but my guess is that if $hype really starts to spike up, it could signal that HIP-3 is getting closer to mainnet. There's no way of knowing when, though. Could be in a few weeks. Could be before EOY. Position yourself accordingly.

jaymos505

The flipside to this is this. Retail bought BTC at ATHs of $69k in November 2021 think it will go to $100k . 2 years later, BTC was $15.5k, more than a 1/4 of the price than two years before. Yes DCA is a great strategy, but regular lums sum investing at lows, not ATHs is the most profitable, and the best traders and investors know this. Eventully BTC will fall past old ATHs. A bear market will hit, that’s the time to ape in. Btc will fall again, it always does. This is the time people take profits and rotate, but a lambo or wait for the dip. ATH are not times to buy. But hey, that’s been my strategy. You seem to be going ok with yours, so just keep going 👍

Emergency_Egg1281

PEPE drowned, not coming back. It's bad that you bought the hype around ATH !!

Reasonable_Band1536

Today’s ATH is also the new low.

Glittering-Local-147

Only down 80% from it's BTC ATH

SendMe143

Something as volatile as bitcoin makes it a terrible choice for an emergency fund. An emergency fund should be low risk so you don’t have to worry about taking a loss. Imagine you emergency is fund for 3 months and then there be a big pullback and all of a sudden your 3 month fund is now a 1 month fund and an emergency actually happens - now you end up selling all of it and other investments, which also might be potentially down. Don’t get caught up in the fun of us near ATH for a while now.

TexasBoyz-713

ETH: $2k from ATH BTC: 3.5k from ATH Damn Bitcoin really needs to pick up the pace this run….

Squirrel_McNutz

But on the other hand it you sold when we breached ATH at 69k you would have missed the boat on all of these gains. So it’s risky, you’re basically gambling on the trade. The above applies to it you’re selling all of your BTC. If you’re DCAing out increments at certain intervals and then DCAing back in increments at certain intervals that could be a decent move.

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, June 12th:** 2025 - $106,839 2024 - $68,241 2023 - $25,903 2022 - $26,763 2021 - $35,553 2020 - $9,481 2019 - $8,146 2018 - $6,582 2017 - $2,660 2016 - $673 2015 - $230 2014 - $597 2013 - $109 2012 - $5.7 2011 - $18.5 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $2.12 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 900937; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 10.00 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.40MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 126.98 trillion hashes; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 13-Jun-2025 (within 215 blocks). Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $333,872 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miner's revenue for the last 7 days is $48.66M; with the average daily miner's profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0535 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 149,063 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 21,442 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 914 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $48.97 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 336,387. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 4.5 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $1.39; with the median values being 1.7 sats/VB & $0.53 respectively. There are currently 19.88M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.12M to be mined. There are currently 3.41M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 17.15% of circulating supply. There are currently 55,108,671 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 170.41M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 12-Jun-2025 is $16,411. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $95,011. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 936 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 9.36 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $111,673.28 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,182.68 on 03-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin is down 4.58% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 3 days in 2025. It has been 21 days since the last ATH.

piggleii

I was just thinking, a lot of us have been burnt by 50+% drawdowns. But what if we had such faith in an asset like BTC (not shitcoins, sorry) that you were like, "You know what? Fuck it. I'm just gonna hold because eventually it's going to breach its ATH again even if it dumps by 50, 60, or 70%. Because trying to time the bottom and buy back all of the BTC I sold is a fool's errand."

Due-Wrongdoer2887

We have a great HHI and we've also steadily grown to ca. 18,500 holders. In June (at ATH 284m MC) last year we were between 7000-8000.

Possible_Concept_174

If you can stomach 50% corrections, and can keep investing through these drawbacks (that's where you will make your money), continue. Although, most people will start to DCA close to top, will stop when market crashes, will not believe in the come back, and continue only after another ATH, which is contrary to a DCA investment strategy.

Glittering-Local-147

Buying at the ATH in 2017 turned out to be a great idea for me.

Icy-Fudge1499

After the ATH pump, expect atleast a 60% drop. Cycle history says up to 80% drop Its not over yet

nezeta

Still a long way to record a new ATH.

HonestPineapple4848

True, BTC didn't even hit ATH in €. It was very close but didn't hit it.

Motor_Aware

To be fair everybody was telling me not to buy at ATH of 21k..,.

paullampard

If he didn't have the conviction to hodl, then it could have been much worse had he held through that ATH then panic sold at 3k in 2018.

New_Car2574

Why did he ever stop buying it? He sold at a specific ATH, but why didn't he buy back in? He obviously could have afforded to, and at that point, he knew what Bitcoin really was. It seems so common that (especially with Bitcoin) people sell at the top of a really good investment and *never* buy back in. Just because you sold it once doesn't mean you can never own it again. Why do people do this?

Final_Rope7721

There will be another bear market coming. Tons of time to accumulate some bitcoin… Please do not advise he starts buying near ATH’s

_Commando_

Probably buying at ATH's.

Squirrel_McNutz

I mean we’re still right on the cusp of ATH. I’m hopeful for sure. But also historically the summers have always been bad/slow. So I think you might have to be a little more patient. Take advantage of these months to prepare your bags if you haven’t already.

xq522

This is sadly apart of selling a good investment. You’ll always look for what you could of had and I don’t think you can really get over it until you force yourself to accept reality. But it’s hard when bitcoin keeps hitting new ATH and media starts talking and people start posting gains. Back in 2020 during the bull run. I sold an investment early that would have made me over 100k. Sent me into a slump and took a long time to get over what I could of had. Even worse when you gotta go grind out a job. But that’s life and everyone has a different path in how they accept and move on. Some never truly do.

Kurupt-FM-1089

You know what’s funny is he’s the reason I got a cold wallet and bought bitcoin in the first place. I remember his post as it was around the time when BTC had gone to an ATH (2017 I think?) and it was just the slight nudge I needed to look into BTC in more detail. I had dismissed it for years prior to that. Thanks John 😃

Sam_Shelby

ATH now will be the bottom you waited for years

Rent_South

But in 2017 at ATH, just one coin was about 20k, and then you sold all 3 coins at a low point in the bear when BTC was at 6k.  That is unfortunate  Also, are you saying the 20k were enough to buy, or put a deposit on a home acquisition ?  Separate issue, but just want to add that I don't understand the financial necessity for homeownership personally, it seems to me passive income or asset appreciation is more important, and home ownership should be a goal only when you have enough passive income to live off. 

TheWatchers666

I don't think it will drop back that far but from the ATH several months ago...it's slid down the poll...it will probably slide again round the 70-80 mark. It's never a wrong time to buy but if you're gonna hold longterm...you're not gonna loose out if you wait to at least below 95. That blue vein at the side of your head will thank you for it 😆

DumbSmartGuy7

Man, this constant flirting, but no passing, the 112K ATH is driving me a little nutty. <repeats HODL mantra pointing to self in mirror>

Objective_Digit

What the hell. I thought we were getting along. There's a weird touchiness and incivility on this sub I don't see anywhere else. I was being diplomatic if anything when I said ETH has not really outperformed BTC since 2017. Bitcoin in general has far outperformed it. ETHBTC has not hit an ATH since 2017. That's two cycles long.

FaZaCon

Don't EVER buy into alt coins when they're near their ATH. The only way I would build a diversified ALT coin portfolio is if the alt's were all down nearly 90% from their ATH.

sgrinavi

Ever? Zeroish, but I don't think that's happening. For practical purposes I'll stick with 50-60% from where the ATH lands.

Objective_Digit

Bitcoin's biggest competition hasn't hit an ATH (priced in BTC) since 2017.

IcyDragonFire

I sold all my BTC near the ATH.   I'm not shorting it simply because there are much better ways to utilize my margin.   But let me counter the question, with a slight variation: how low do you thing BTC can ever fall? 

crazy_lolipopp

Yeah but it needs to break ATH if anything special is gonna happen this cycle

Typical-Street-6496

I know it sounds really bad but I want new ATH now

thebigmooch

$HEGE is about to moon! ATH is coming, glad I bought more, not missing out on this rocket ship!

inadyttap

Lets get a new BTC ATH today! 

escodelrio

**Historical Bitcoin prices for today, June 11th:** 2025 - $109,865 2024 - $67,332 2023 - $25,940 2022 - $28,361 2021 - $37,334 2020 - $9,322 2019 - $7,928 2018 - $6,907 2017 - $2,958 2016 - $607 2015 - $230 2014 - $643 2013 - $109 2012 - $5.6 2011 - $14.6 **Additional Stats:** Bitcoin's current market cap is $2.18 trillion. Bitcoin's current block height is 900794; with the average block time for the last 7 days being 10.17 minutes and the average block size for the last 7 days being 1.41MB. Bitcoin's mining difficulty is currently 126.98 trillion hashes; with the next difficulty adjustment anticipated on 13-Jun-2025 (within 358 blocks). Bitcoin's current block reward is 3.125₿, which is worth $343,327 per block. Bitcoin's average daily miner's revenue for the last 7 days is $47.69M; with the average daily miner's profitability for the last 7 days being $0.0542 per terahash per sec. The next Bitcoin halving is anticipated to happen between 26-Mar-2028 to 20-Apr-2028 (within 149,206 blocks); the block reward will fall to 1.5625₿. There are currently 21,903 reachable Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin's average daily hashrate for the last 7 days is 901 exahashes per second. Bitcoin's average daily trading volume for the last 7 days is $48.07 billion. Bitcoin's average daily number of transactions for the last 7 days is 334,926. Bitcoin's average transaction fee for the last 7 days is 4.64 sats/VB, with the average fee's USD amount being $1.39; with the median values being 1.77 sats/VB & $0.53 respectively. There are currently 19.88M ₿ in circulation, leaving 1.12M to be mined. There are currently 3.41M ₿ held by companies, governments, DeFi, and ETFs, representing 17.15% of circulating supply. There are currently 55,095,672 nonzero Bitcoin addresses that contain 170.48M UTXOs. Bitcoin's average daily price from 18-Jul-2010 to 11-Jun-2025 is $16,394. Bitcoin's average daily price for the year 2025 is $94,946. 1 US Dollar ($) currently equals: 910 satoshis; making 1 penny equal 9.1 sats. Bitcoin's minimum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $76,271.95 on 08-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (closing) price for the year 2025 was $111,673.28 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's minimum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $74,436.68 on 07-Apr-2025. Bitcoin's maximum (intraday) price for the year 2025 was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily decrease for the year 2025 was -$8,182.68 on 03-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's largest daily increase for the year 2025 was +$8,216.44 on 02-Mar-2025. Bitcoin's all-time high (intraday) was $111,970.17 on 22-May-2025. Bitcoin is down 1.88% from the ATH. Bitcoin has reached an all-time high 3 days in 2025. It has been 20 days since the last ATH.

Ultra-Pulse

If you compare, in EUR, BTC still has to climb 13k to match the previous ATH. Which means, in US it has to move to 125k and we're just where we have been. Imagine that. Thanks Trump.

Advocaatx

Why do people asume that waiting a bit for a better price is like trading. I’m only buying bitcoin and holding it, but I’m trying to maximize the amount I buy. I’m not gonna buy right at the ATH when it’s basically guaranteed to dip sooner or later.

crazy_lolipopp

Is it a bad sign that I'm not even excited about a BTC ATH anymore?

Sea-Escape-8109

its only flirting with $ ATH, in € its still 5% below ATH.

Dark_Raiden_

ETH about to make a new ATH imo.

002_timmy

To you last point - There's been a lot of chatter of Ethereum losing interest in general. BTC dominance is basically at ATH levels and ETH isn't responding. Solana & Hyperliquid are capturing a lot of Ethereum's market share as well. To the first - zk tech is still a huge focus, especially as it pertains to Agglayer. That's an incredible amount of R&D going into zk technology. Brian Seong just published a paper conceptualizing Chainless Apps, which basically as apps that can run offchain, but settle onchain through zk proving. Agglayer will use the pessimistic proof at it's core. CDK-Erigon is a zk CDK. There's a lot of zk work being done, just as Polygon has made advancements and contributed more to zk tech than any other project in web3, as things were learned, strategy was slightly adjusted (not abandoned) to provide the most value to all of web3

BetTheDip

Don’t buy at all time high unless you are ready to take big paper losses and still hold strong for 4-5 years to recover. Considering you are a newbie and asking this question when bitcoin is at ATH suggests you haven’t developed the understanding about bitcoin or researched. So no you should not buy right now