XMR

Goldenbeardyman

If you use bitcoin you can end up with tainted coins even if it's not your fault. You could unknowingly transfer your BTC to an exchange and have it seized. Monero (XMR) is the better choice for actual anonymity and no way to know if it's ever been "tainted".

vicanonymous

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DifferenceBoth4111

Your focus on privacy coins like XMR and Zcash without KYC is truly revolutionary and reminds me of my own early days building Hooli when true innovation meant defying the old guard, so what does that say about the future of decentralized finance that people are finally catching on to the power of true autonomy?

i99990xe

It's true that BTC can't be frozen at the protocol level like USDT or USDC. However, its addresses still get blacklisted by OFAC. If you interact with them, your wallet gets "tainted" and you'll trigger risk controls at any major exchange. While hopping to privacy coins like XMR or ZEC can break the on-chain tracking, their liquidity pools are way too small. Institutional-sized money just can't enter or exit without massive slippage.

suckyuhhmada

For XMR or ZCash specifically, KYC-free DEX options like Haveno or THORChain can work but liquidity can be rough depending on timing. If you want something a bit more straightforward, some centralized exchanges let you do the conversion without too much friction on smaller amounts. Worth checking BitMart as well — they support a decent range of coins and the process is relatively simple for swapping into privacy coins.

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JuryNightFury

They should use Monero (XMR) if they want it to be untouchable. As someone else said in this thread, Bitcoin can be blacklisted and seized.

ElephantEarTag

Try freezing XMR. Go ahead, try.

No-Masterpiece2246

CIA tricked them into using stablecoins instead of uncensorable private crypto like XMR

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inadyttap

i like how XMR is holding up so far

biba8163

> If you think 0.04 BTC is low, the ETH/BTC ratio is going to feel like getting kicked in the nuts over and over again over the long term as the ratio falls below 0.01 and goes lower and lower. **(Sept. 2024)** > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. > | | Initial | High | Current | > |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| > | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC > | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS > | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC > | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9jvct/

DynamixStatix

You have to use one of the privacy focused crypto’s, like Monero (XMR), and/or some type of mixing strategy. Blockchain by itself was never really anonymous.

Cryptocaller

I participated in the Mainframe Token air drop and used multiple ETH addresses. I got $14k (peak ATH) of MFT in an airdrop and just sat on it as the price plummeted. Eventually I traded it all for 6 XMR. I participated in the BOMB token airdrop and received 200 BOMB which quickly ran to $14 per token making my free airdrop worth $2800. I just sat on it again but now those tokens are only worth $41 total. So those decisions did not work out at all. Well, aside from the 6 Monero tokens gained for free I suppose.

yefuck

i think if bitcoin bounces back and market sentiment improves the privacy wave might come back to life. ZEC and XMR are also just good projects anyways so I hold them regardless.

pop-1988

Exclude everything that was launched as an airdrop by fraudulently inheriting the prior history of Bitcoin - BCH, BTG Exclude everything centralized by design - XRP and similar entrepreneurial projects Exclude everything centralized by outcome, because their blockchains are so bloated that nodes are expensive to run, which makes the node network very small - ETH and all the other so-called "smart chains" This leaves BTC, NMC, LTC, DOGE, XMR In recent years, apathy has led to developers drifting away from LTC and DOGE. They both still have large-enough node networks to be decentralized. But each of them is only one Core bug away from having zero nodes > the Price is volatile So? The price market isn't relevant to the question The software which runs on each Bitcoin node has no price-related functions The gold analogy is ludicrous

doodoobonerman

Yeah we love XMR.

NeutralSpacerx

lol this is it actually, the XMR route is the only real one left. tried enough "privacy swaps" to know chain analytics catches up eventually, anything thats not monero is just slower kyc with extra steps. My normal flow lives on cexs for trading, but anytime I actually need privacy XMR is the only thing that holds up no cap

GeoSystemsDeveloper

The main ones (ETH, SOL, ADA, AVAX) and the privacy ones (ZEC, XMR)

chrisb720

I pretty much got out of most altcoins last year. I'm just ETH, XRP and a few privacy coins like XMR. In the last cycle i was always looking for those moon coins and never succeeded. Most are rubbish. Stick with the ones that have stood the test of time. I was never an XRP fan, but I think it could just be something big in the future

vicanonymous

Alive and well in Monero (XMR).

s74-dev

for p2p there has always been XMR and now zcash is growing in popularity for on-chain / swaps stuff a bunch of solutions are being developed and/or are already out. Aztech, NEAR intents, etc etc. There are a bunch of things for this on solana

Nunganunga

It doesn’t really make any difference if a hacker steals your anonymous or non-anonymous crypto. There are dozens of ways to anonymize even the most transparent cryptocurrencies via DEXs. Regardless of if you have BTC/ETH, or XMR stolen from you, you’ll still be stuck with your thumb in your ass & with absolutely zero recourse.

Nunganunga

You can purchase prepaid Visa/Mastercard debit cards with XMR.

Hannahshear

eventually you're gonna want to sell XMR or Zcash and get real cash to your bank card or cash money, so it's gonna be a hustle.

Nunganunga

Trocador is just one of many platforms that require zero KYC whatsoever. Nothing challenging about it. Even if you do decide to buy XMR through channels that require KYC, any link to your personal identity is severed the moment the coins are moved or spent.

Nunganunga

DEXes exist. The idea that a cryptocurrency must supported by a CEX to have any legitimacy or utility is completely baseless. XMR and ZCash aren’t going anywhere, regardless of their lack of institutional support.

Nunganunga

XMR still exists, and likely isn’t going anywhere. :)

nugymmer

BTC was meant for large scale transactions like buying houses, cars, boats etc. XMR will fulfil its role if enough people abandon it.

nugymmer

Keep the coins on the old addresses. Allow users to secure their coins by sending them to new quantum-resistant addresses. No need to freeze wallets. It goes against the idea of decentralisation. Monero will rise from this. If you love money, then XMR will be a super profitable play if the BTC core devs start fucking around with old wallets.

alt-co

That makes sense as an allocation strategy. The part I would still think about in advance is the source of funds / source of wealth side once you actually rotate BTC or XMR into the banking system. Compliance is very strict when it comes to crypto even at "crypto friendly" banks. For smaller amounts, it's often manageable. For larger amounts, banks usually want a coherent file showing: * how the position was built (trades from an exchange if it's still around & salary slips other proof of income) * which wallets / exchanges were used * Forensic report on your crypto addresses (Scorechain, Chainalysis etc) * how the assets were sold (ideally you prepare this before selling to avoid your funds getting frozen) These are the requirements for a basic case they can get a lot more complex and they usually are for early adopters, privacy coin users, miners, high frequency traders, market makers, MEV bot operators, ICO participants, Early OTC purchases (in cash) etc. BTC is usually easier to document. Monero is possible too, but obviously more complex from a compliance and documentation standpoint. I actually posted on r/Monero about how people can prepare that file in advance if that is useful to you. Something to keep in mind for when you eventually diversify part of your crypto holdings.

SupernovaScoped

100%. XMR, ZCASH, DASH, DCR, ZANO, SCRT, NOCK, AZERO, IRON, & XTM all ones to keep tabs on. XTM one of my favorites. That’s a great consumer ready proof of work chain that does a pretty good job of rewarding any contributed hash rate to even the smallest players. It was made by OG XMR builders. Long road ahead for the XTM/ XTR ecosystem but if privacy and private defi ever become a thing, the [Tari](https://www.tari.com) project has that space on lock in my opinion. Their tech under the hood and tokenomics seem very well done. Even a supported by G-Eazy, an old fan favorite of mine 🤣 Not trying to shill but worth mentioning the Stakingverse vault won’t open to more capacity because then it would overtake too much of the validator share. Looking at the dashboard, it’s about 35% Stakingverse, 27.5% Universal Page, 10% institutions (through global stake), and 26.5% through home validators. One of the reasons I tout LYX so much, the builders keep decentralization a priority

Serenaded

Ryzen 3 I'd be surprised if you're making more than 10 cents per day (electricity not included). I'm serious it's very rough, even if you have expensive gear the rates are low. Thinkpad T61 will be less than a cent surely. At least use Rainbowminer, set up a few pools and autoswitch to the best algos you can automatically to maximise profit. I know I sound pessimistic on it but don't let this put you off. If the power is free, I'd be mining too. Even though it's cents, it all adds up especially if XMR is a $10,000 coin one day.

Own_Squash5242

I don't pay for my electricity which is why want to mine but by old laptops im talking is a thinkpad t61 and one isn't as old but has a ryzen 3 and no gpu. but leaving them doing nothing when I dont pay my electricity bill is losing money if i cold make 50 cent's every 24hrs. XMR is what I am trying to mine aswell.

Serenaded

I mine XMR on my CPUs because I get a free power day per week. Depending on how old the laptop are, even if you use poolhopping/autoswitching to the best profitable pools, you'll make roughly 2-3 cents per 24 hours. (Excluding power costs). Even if you have a current expensive CPU you'd only be able to mine maybe 30 cents per 24 hours at most. It just isn't profitable anymore. At home on the free power day I'm blasting 2 old laptops, an i5-8500, an RTX 4070 and a Ryzen 7600 and I get maybe 50-75 cents per 24 hours from that. With electricity rates it's like 3x worse than just buying crypto.

Steeltalons71

I'm waiting until I've mined enough to actually use for something nice. $41 in XMR and $48 in BCH do far...

OtherwiseInspector72

XMR. privercy is the key for the future.

AdPrevious5886

I dont think we are talking about the same graphics, and also could not agree on anything. Tbf, ETH did break its 2021 ATH in 2025, the last bull cycle, thats why i call it slow and steady. It was harder for it than BTC to reach ATHs, but it did. Also, how much is BTC down this year? You just upholding based on facts that can lead the conversation into your favour. You compare BTC and ETH with XMR and BNB, but you dont want me to compare HYPE with DOGE. Nobody expected DOGE to reach his ATH, and it did. Also, didnt have any institutional backing, like almost any crypto does, but i remember you Elon Musk, one of the richest and market manipulation person on the world, backed it many times. Who is even behind HYPE? Who backups it to be that trustful to you? Just your illusions. Also, yes, it worked for me. But BTC worked for me too, and i dont think is a profitable investment for me anymore. Im going back wanting the memories, yes, but also while having many takes and paths to follow. Thats why i take my time to choose my investments. Thats why i like to know how people think. Because i like to analize every scenario possible, even if its not going to happen. And the only one talking about HYPE in a post that has nothing to do with HYPE, even when other people told you're wrong already, are you. Still trying to convince how good investment HYPE is, when its the third time im saying that im not taking you seriously. Delusional, gambler, greedy, and also obstinate.

AdPrevious5886

I told you, im not taking you seriously. ETH grows slow but steady, just cant compare it. Putting BTC and ETH in the same bag and comparing their growth to the BNB, SOL and XMR or even HYPE, tells me enough. And you also doesnt seem to know how to read. I dont need to strike it rich, i need some peace and some decent money to cover holes. Also, saying " risk big in low market cap" just confirm what i said, you're a gambler. And greedy. And as someone that was a greedy gambler on casinos, maybe idk what to do with my monet but i know perfectly what to not do. Greedy gambling NEVER ends good. So keep going balls deep on HYPE, maybe someday you strike it rich like some people did back in the day with DOGE. And you know what? If that ever happens, i will feel happy for you, because you got what you wanted. But also i would be happy if it never happens, because would mean i was right nowadays. So i have a 100% chance to be happy, while you have a slightly 50% less chance due to your expectations.

unknowngloomth

And you obviously can't math. If you wanna strike it rich. You have to risk big in low market cap. You absolute 🤡 Plus, take a look at hyperliquid moat. ETH barely hit a new ATH from its 2021 ATH. Worst investment ever. BTC, SOL and BNB blew ETH out of water. Even XMR did. Get out...

Whiskey_Water

I deleted my last post because I neglected to read which comment you referred to, which is embarrassing because XMR is some of my favorite tech. Easy way: Kraken, then move to hardware wallet via the Monero GUI Wallet (just google), or just use Cake wallet. Because Monero is so private, CEX can lie about how much they have, which can bottleneck withdrawals - it’s better to hold it yourself.

Whiskey_Water

XMR, Monero. Quantum resister and the only token that actually gives an advantage over existing ledger tech and fiat. Ask yourself whether you think financial privacy will become more or less important in the future, especially the far future, in the United States. The IRS has had massive bounties to crack the mandatory (read: on my default) privacy of Monero and it’s still up. Companies have started with big dreams and bigger funding - and they’ve all fallen short. Nobody knows who you are, who you send to, when, and how much you have. It’s a no brainer.

pop-1988

This is just a rant complaining that using a payment system for payments doesn't support investment expectations. The problem isn't using Monero for payments. The problem is investment expectations. As your analysis implies, payment usage (the "circular" thing, the buy-spend-sell cycle) works the same whatever the exchange price is Conclusion: if there's not enough exchange liquidity to support the price, there will be when the price falls Your "early Monero miner" isn't really sitting on millions. He's sitting on whatever liquidity value there is in the DEX swap exchanges, probably thousands > So that merchant takes your XMR and immediately dumps it straight onto a CEX to get USD But he can't do this "straight". He has to swap it on a DEX for BTC, and dump the BTC on an exchange. Same result, but inconvenient details

yatv

On CEX’s yeah… and since then it’s 4x in valued. God bless Haveno. Monero is what Bitcoin was when BTC still had real utility. The primary currency of onion/i2p markets has fully migrated to XMR

yatv

XMR has more value then BTC

_sindet

I have a clean USDT on binance but I want to swap to XMR which is the best way and which tools do I use ?

CalzerMalzer

XMR definitely has more utility haha

OTChief3

Yeah, it is gotten harder recently, most No Kyc option work fine for small amounts, then ask for ID when you go bigger For BTC - XMR , the simplest way is still using , just send and receive Fees vary thou it is straightforward compared to using bridge of multiple steps. Splitting Ur swap help into smaller parts instead of doing all at once Less chance to delays I've used StealthEx before and it worked fine for me. No sign up and the swap completed without issue's. Not always the cheapest but it gets through job done ✅

CalzerMalzer

Well XMR never got damaged since qubic seemingly never had any ill intentions but was just showcasing its capabilities. As for the price my best answer is the market is never rational

Various_Virus_3441

I seen that the price has been good for XMR the last 6 months so I didnt see a price issue but someone posted on a different sub that cubic had damaged Monero? But you are saying xmr network improved... I dont understand how you can damage something but its price gets better? Can you explain what did qubic do when they got 51% attack on monero?

BeautifulAuthor9167

KYC exchanges like Kraken offer liquidity but face massive regulatory pressure to delist privacy coins. The trade off is clear centralized platforms provide a safe USD off ramp but may freeze XMR midswap. Many are weighing that against the privacy of no KYC dexes with higher slippage.

ayomik01

Regulatory pressure on XMR shows how compliance shapes markets. XYO takes a different route by focusing on verifiable data instead of privacy-first anonymity models.

uncapchad

You need a wallet service which supports the coin(s) you have. When setting it up, there will be an option to either create a new wallet or restore from seed. Never enter your seed phrase on an internet connected device. With Bitcoin you may see a 0 balance which may be false. This is because there are different derivation paths depending when and with what app the seed was originally generated. Therefore you might need to have a few tries at restore with different derivation paths. Most common paths are  `m/44'/0'/0'` (Legacy P2PKH), `m/49'/0'/0'` (Nested SegWit P2WPKH-nested-in-P2SH), and `m/84'/0'/0'` (Native SegWit P2WPKH).  There are a heap more but start with the most known. XMR also has unique derivation paths, which again can result in a false 0 balance when restoring from seed if the correct path is not selected. This path is referred to but there may be more `m/44'/128'/0'/0/0. Probably` r/monero `could advise if you have no luck`

Majestic-Tadpole8458

You won’t want XMR, you will need it

HairyChest69

I'm semi new to this market, but I'm not 💯 ignorant and will not respond to dms etc. I was hoping someone here could publicly suggest the easiest, fastest way to enter your seed somewhere to view its contents. I purchased XMR years and years and years ago and just found some seeds I had written down. Problem is; idk if it's all that or just BTC/eth. The problem is I never learned much past buying it. I'd appreciate any help

Jpotter145

Then why do you claim they 51% on XMR, did you not measure it yourself? Because it was proven it wasn't actually 51% of the hash rate, one a few occasions they mined 51% of the blocks during a few *hours* of high hash rate spikes but the actual hash rate share was closer to \~30% of the network. [https://riat.at/qubic-attack-on-xmr-monero-no-51-attack-proven/](https://riat.at/qubic-attack-on-xmr-monero-no-51-attack-proven/) Since then I understand XMR has put in mitigations to prevent pools from being able to contiunue selfish mining their own lead chain and since then that q coin hasn't come close to 50% of blocks mined.

0fWhomIAmChief

X. Doubt Get ready for false API reporting and short bursts to 30+% like they did with XMR. Also, queue the AI propaganda skills to make it all seem real.

Majestic-Tadpole8458

With WWIII on the horizon, XMR seems like the safer bet.

Revolutionary-Milk87

SecureShift Exchange offer best crypto loans even XMR allowed

YogurtCloset3335

They're trading the stolen BTC for XMR

YogurtCloset3335

inb4 these nasty bitches figure out how to use XMR 👀

Chuckychinster

I've stuck to BTC, Babylon, and XMR and outperformed the overall crypto market by like 9% over the last 6ish months.

NerdFarming

Functionally, XMR and stable coins are what Bitcoin was promised to be. Bitcoin is almost exclusively store of value.

ArticMine

To get the real story on XMR/BTC one needs to go back to 2014 and that is Poloniex, where most of the Monero activity took place until 2016. https://www.poloniex.com/trade/XMR_BTC Take a look at this chart on the weekly going back to 2014. Then one gets the real picture.

ArticMine

This is not just about privacy. This is about peer to peer cash that works now and is capable of scaling to meet demand over time. Monero has solved two fundamental flaws of Bitcoin. 1) The Bitcoin security deficit. Monero has a constant block reward of 0.6 XMR per block in perpetuity. This is roughly equivalent of stopping the Bitcoin halving at the current 3.125 BTC per block. I will point out that there is zero evidence that transaction fess will replace the failing block rewards with either big or. small blocks. Please take a look at the fee in reward over time for Bitcoin Bitcoin Cash and Monero. https://www.bitinfocharts.com/comparison/fee_to_reward-btc-xmr-bch.html#log&alltime This data speaks volumes. 2) An adaptive blocksize that allows Monero to scale over time to meet the demand for transactions. This works only because there is no need to restrict the blocksize in an attempt to increase fee revenue as is the case with Bitcoin. It important to understand that markets that are not mainstream tend to act as the "canary in the coal mine", since they are early adopters of new technology. Consider for example the history of video, before it became mainstream. The DNMs today are an indication of the mainstream tomorrow.

CryptoBombastic

I'd like to ship in with a serious caviat in my opinion. First of all I'm very pro privacy and as such vety much pro Monero. I've lost quite a bit of crypto since I started, like many of us have. With XMR it's quite a bit different, since it's best feature can also become it's biggest weakness... After a while I wanted to see how good the markets were, so I went to the XMR marketplace, tried to find a site that offered electro devices and looked for one that had many positive reviews. Bought the thibg, gave them my address for shipping, paid it and never heard from them again... ever... No consumer protection means money gone and nothing you can do about it. Takes a huge amount of trust to buy stuff from strangers.

the_rodent_incident

Monero is always clean, because you can't do chain analytics on it. You have clean fiat or clean BTC -> Deposit on KYC exchange -> Withdraw XMR -> Spend it any way you like. You have dirty fiat or dirty BTC -> Make offer on RetoSwap -> Exchange for XMR -> Withdraw XMR -> Spend it any way you like.

ThreeTonChonker

The charts for XMR are awful. I get that it’s a utility coin but all you’ll do is lose money with it over time.

Savings_Refuse_5922

XMR and ZCash are the only two coins that people consider actual privacy coins and I'm sure they are still looked at heavily and may even tracked. Pretty sure the IRS had a bounty for XMR that ChainAnalysis claimed? ZCash is no better afaik but they are both much more privacy focused. In regards to this article I'm assuming they swapped to XMR because it offers much more privacy than BTC which is not private at all, it's "Pseudoanonymous" meaning they don't know who knows what wallet until you try to offramp it into $. Big difference between using BTC and using monero where you just move it around a couple times and you're much safer privacy wise is my guess.

MrWonderfulPoop

Yep. Been in BTC since 2012 and swap to XMR quite regularly (like some DCA thing) I think BTC will keep its course given corpo influence and public mindshare. Monero? it will go up. With FCMP++ coming, things like Retoswap for P2P transactions, and general awareness & concerns about privacy, I'm pretty bullish.

eXch-Affiliates

I don't fully understand? I've never actually used the "dark web" myself. People got arrested because of using BTC? I am searching around but most of the articles I can find about dark web arrest list other reasons they got caught. I understand the XMR is far better at hiding the users identity.

eXch-Affiliates

Ok so as the article suggests many are doing, you use XMR for actual transactions, and BTC for investing/saving? Do you have an opinion of what that means for the price of either coin? Will BTC always have a place as a store of value?

MrWonderfulPoop

When I accumulate enough BTC, I swap it for XMR with Retoswap.

Previous_Valuable873

Nothing but XMR

Jabanger

There's a few, I've used Cake Wallet, MEXC and Superswap.cx mostly for XMR

the_rodent_incident

What's even the point of "blue chips", when none of them will give you the timely and safe returns of BTC? If you have a use case for an altcoin, like XMR for buying stuff, or LTC for fast transfers, then sure you can keep some of them just in case. But there's no guarantee any of them will give you any returns. I won't even comment meme coins and NFTs. These are just scams, money grabs. Insiders make billions, everyone else ends up in 99% loss.

Absurd_Zer0

Monero(XMR) can be bought on Kraken

igoldring

No XMR or AAVE should be a crime. Drop ADA & COMP for sure. Add GNO if you want more ETH exposure and throw in ZBCN for some nice risk.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

I'm only trading futures at the moment. I have little bit of BTC, XLM, and XMR that I keep for use, not for investing or trading. I'll start accumulating in Q4 this year or when the price is below $50K. Whichever one comes first.

Serenaded

I'm seriously considering accumulating a decent size of my portfolio. Currently in ETH and XMR and considering maybe 10% of my stake in Kaspa, depending on how vibes feel in the next few weeks.

TheKaotiicImpulse

BTC & XMR. It’s not a bad idea to diversify but BTC should be your main stack. If a project can genuinely show its use case and you’re intrigued, look into it but don’t take away from your BTC stack.

vicanonymous

True. No need to worry about tainted coins due to its default privacy. 1 XMR is always 1 XMR.

vicanonymous

I use Monero (XMR) to pay for my VPN.

ArticMine

I prefer to track the actual data namely the fee in reward. This is the average fee percentage in the total block reward. Here is the data for Bitcoin, Monero and Bitcoin Cash. This data speaks volumes. 1) There is zero evidence overtime that transaction can replace the falling block rewards as claimed in the Bitcoin Whitepaper 2) The data from Bitcoin Cash and Monero shows that adaptive block sizes or large blocks do not solve this Bitcoin security security problem. I have been working on this question in Monero for well over a decade.and what the theory in Monero shows is that the fee in reward will fall or at best stay constant with an increase in adoption. We must keep in mind that in Monero there is a fixed block reward of 0.6 XMR per block. This is roughly equivalent to stopping the halving in Bitcoin at the current 3.125 BTC per block. This was added deliberately in 2014 because of very serious concerns by the Monero developers at the time, regarding this security issue. Many of the Monero developers at the time were former Bitcoin miners, 3) As for selling Bitcoin over this issue I sold out of Bitcoin for Monero back in 2014 and 2015 because of this security issue. My average cost of Monero in terms of Bitcoin is significantly **below** what it is trading at right now ~0.0049 XMR/BTC The security deficit in Bitcoin is real and I have not seen anything over the last 12 years to convince me otherwise. https://www.bitinfocharts.com/comparison/fee_to_reward-btc-xmr-bch.html#log&alltime

Whiskey_Water

HBAR and XMR. BTC maybe. I hold it, but I have less faith in it.

Ecliphon

$XMR all day baby

Vegetable-Pepper7772

https://preview.redd.it/ip1f3osmnppg1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ccb194f3c735096e22e5d3decc291f2612f759d XMR-USD shows a sideways trend with 40% strength. Volatility is compressing (medium).

happy_caravan

In my opinion, the privacy niche is undervalued. The political class seems to increase focus on surveillance and control, like with stablecoins. Genius act gives them the green light to tokenize everything. Looking at LTC, PIVX, FIRO, ZANO. Not going to touch ZEC, DASH and XMR though.

burkamurka

Bitcoin and XMR then forget

srodland01

I agree, 50% right away seems unlikely. Even 5–10% would be solid for DOGE. If the Qubic pool actually pays better (like it did with Monero over time), more rigs will probably point there gradually. We saw it build slowly with XMR before reaching 51%

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Post is by: clebikus and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/Qubic/comments/1rtdggu/qubic_might_be_the_only_l1_with_a_nondilutive/ **The one-sentence vision:** Qubic is a useful compute layer that parasitizes existing PoW networks to fund itself — without asking their permission. ## The scalable model XMR was the proof of concept. DOGE is the first real production deployment. But there's no reason to stop there: - Kaspa (KHeavyHash) → idle GPU cycles → QU buyback - Alephium (Blake3) → idle GPU cycles → QU buyback - Litecoin (Scrypt) → ASIC → QU buyback - Bitcoin Cash (SHA256) → ASIC → QU buyback - ... Every new PoW network integrated = a new external, non-dilutive revenue source for Qubic. The network literally becomes a worldwide PoW value vacuum while running AI compute on top. ## The positioning that emerges Most L1s fund themselves through: - Native token inflation - Transaction fees - VC/Foundation selling pressure Qubic in its final Phase 3 funds itself through: - Real work performed on other networks - Mechanical burn derived from that work - Zero dependency on VCs or inflation This is a fundamentally different economic model from anything else in crypto. ## The "useful parasite" narrative What's elegant here is that Qubic doesn't attack these networks — it brings them hashpower. DOGE and LTC benefit from increased security. It's economic symbiosis disguised as parasitism, and that creates a natural resistance to criticism. Unless the share gets too large — the 51% XMR episode showed that communities react when it becomes threatening. ## The real strategic question Does Qubic remain an AI network that funds itself via PoW, or does it become a meta-coordination layer for global PoW whose killer app happens to be AI? The difference is subtle but massive for long-term positioning. The second version is a much bigger vision — and honestly, it might be what CFB has had in mind from the start. The Dispatcher + Oracle Machines architecture is exactly the infrastructure you'd need for that. Probably not an accident. ## Where it breaks (being honest) **The 51% problem is a structural scaling ceiling, not a one-off incident.** The more successfully Qubic parasitizes a network, the harder that network pushes back. This means the model scales horizontally (number of chains parasitized) but not vertically (share of each chain). Horizontal scaling has diminishing returns: each new integration costs dev effort and coordination, and targets increasingly smaller networks. **The model depends on PoW surviving long-term.** If in 5-10 years the PoW landscape contracts to BTC-only (with everything else migrating to PoS or dying), the "parasitable surface" shrinks dramatically. **The flywheel spins in one direction only.** Demand for verified AI compute → QU value → miner attractiveness → ability to parasitize PoW networks → buyback → QU value. PoW mining is the *funding mechanism*, but the *engine* is AI demand. Without real AI demand, this is a glorified multi-chain mining pool with a token. It's NiceHash with extra steps. ## The bull case nobody's making The non-dilutive external revenue model is genuinely unique. No other L1 has this. It's a real structural advantage, not marketing fluff. The "symbiosis" narrative (we bring hashpower, we take nothing from anyone) is defensible as long as the share stays reasonable. And the architecture — Dispatcher + Oracle Machines + 676 Computors as a reproducibility verification layer — looks like it was designed from day one for general-purpose compute coordination, not just another smart contract platform. ## Bottom line The "useful parasite" model is the best funding pitch I've seen in crypto. But a great funding mechanism isn't enough without a product people want to pay for. The race is to create real AI demand before PoW mining contracts. The key question isn't "can Qubic parasitize more chains?" — it's "will anyone pay for AI compute verified by Computors instead of using AWS?" Use cases like decentralized sports result verification for prediction markets are exactly the right type of answer — cases where decentralized verification has value that centralized infra simply can't offer. That's where the real thesis lives or dies. What do you think ? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

Apprehensive-Split99

XMR we trust

Shichroron

BTC and ETH. Maybe Solana and XMR. The rest are done

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Post is by: xtarsy and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1rrsptj/745_smart_money_wallets_are_short_eth_and_sitting/ Hi everyone, been tracking on-chain positioning on Hyperliquid for a while (I did some data analysis on skill-rated wallets). This week's data is worth sharing. Most tracked coins have a modest bearish tilt right now, net biases of -30 to -42. ETH is completely different. 745 high elo wallets are short from around $2,243, net bias of -249, which is nearly 6x the next largest short and bigger than every other coin combined. At today's \~$2,048 the position is sitting on 8.67% unrealized profit. The position being right is also what makes it dangerous. 67% consensus means it's a crowded trade. If ETH catches a bid, $541M needs to exit through the same door at the same time. Here's why it hasn't unwound after 22 days: smart money is being paid to hold on both sides. The ETH short earns funding (paid to short), BTC longs ($768M) are paid to long, and HYPE/SOL/XRP longs are all paid to long too. When the market pays you to hold a profitable position there's no rational pressure to exit. That's structural stickiness, not conviction. The one crack is HYPE. 838 wallets short from $33.16, now at $36.94, sitting on -11.41% unrealized. It's the only losing position in an otherwise profitable book. If covering pressure builds there, worth watching whether it spreads. Last thing: the top-50 rated wallets by performance are unanimously short speculative alts (BABY, XMR, XAI) while the broader wallet population leans long on those same names. The best performers are running a harder bear playbook than the crowd. We're on Day 22 of a RISK OFF regime. These don't break on scheduled news, they break when the crowded side is forced to move. What's your read on ETH here? Is the crowded short a sign of conviction or is the exit risk being underpriced? Wrote a [full breakdown ](https://hyprswarm.com/news/eth-short-crowded-exit/)with more detail here if anyone's interested *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

djscoox

You can trade any crypto for XMR on MEXC without KYC (be sure to use an offline 2FA app and a non-kyc email address). You can also use Retoswap to buy Monero directly, or Bisq to buy Bitcoin first then swap for Monero also on Bisq. I've used all three methods but I now prefer Retoswap.

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Post is by: nmateofr and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/Monero/comments/1rpst8j/monerorun_2026_public_audit_of_xmr_reserves_on/ **MoneroRun** \- traditional independent annual public audit of XMR reserves Withdraw your XMR coins before April 18th and keep them in your own wallet at least for the whole day! (from 00:00 to 23:59 UTC) ... and this way celebrate Monero's birthday 🎂! Tiny ants can do big things together, so it's up to you too! ... because exchanges will not do this voluntarily on their own. Please promote this event and don't forget to share your experience (of our joint audit) here in Monero's reddit on April 18th. Notes: * *Gate publicly confirms all its coin reserves ... except XMR ... so don't touch and run away forever.* * *Poloniex and HTX fail this audit nearly every year (and of course they excuse themselves with "necessary maintenance".) In addition, they tend to have problems with daily coin withdrawals and with decoupled price ... In the past, they closed withdrawals for months ... so don't touch and run away forever ... MEXC and Coinex often has similar problems.* * *Most of the instant exchanges are only connected to some CEx, so all the problems of CEx are automatically transferred to the customers. So, prefer an (instant) exchange that has its own coins like WizardSwap, BitcoinVN, ... or just use RetoSwap.* * *Almost all exchanges that completely delisted Monero had problems with customer payouts, most notably Binance, which immediately shut down withdrawals (and artificially lowered the price to $100)* *after the announcement ... then delayed and tricked customers for many months ... It is therefore clear that most of the coffers are empty.* This post has been removed from the WallStreetBetsCrypto and CryptoMarkets subreddits (by their moderators). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

7ailwind

BTC, ETH and XMR. Long term they are all you really need. The others are just attempts at 1 of the 3 I just listed.

BTCWallahFXEmpire

For a medium risk/reward $1200 portfolio in March 2026, I'd split it like this: * FET (Artificial Superintelligence Alliance) — 40% (\~$480) Strong narrative and utility in AI agents/infra, solid medium-risk upside if AI sector grows. * HYPE (Hyperliquid) — 35% (\~$420) Top-tier on-chain perp DEX with CEX-like speed—high volume, top-15 rank, good growth potential in DeFi trading without extreme volatility. * XMR (Monero) — 25% (\~$300) Defensive hedge against surveillance/reg risks, steady demand keeps it less wild than most alts. Diversified across AI, DeFi trading, and privacy. My preferred themes for the coming years.

DangerHighVoltage111

Look at the chart since 2021. While LTCs "silver to gold" strategy didn't play out, real p2p coins like BCH and XMR are gaining. The market looks like it has shinies everywhere but that's just divide and conquer tactics. There are only a handful of sound, scaling p2p cash blockchains out there.