XMR

jormor4

What do you all think of the future of DOGE? I’ve been wondering if its it’s too silly to earn the respect of new big money and too big to be a real moonshot at this point. The ties to Elon were once viewed as positive but sentiment there has shifted majorly too. I hold some but will look for an exit when the time is right. It’s insane to me that it’s got a much bigger marketcap than LINK, XLM, XMR, LTC, etc.

A-Stock-A-Day

XMR's the privacy OG, untraceable by default

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Hangoverinparis

Or the scenario where you were a 10 year old child who was really into tech and building computers and cryptography in 2010, and you didn't receive an allowance because "If you need actually need something we can just buy it for you", but bitcoin was not something they would buy you even though you asked for it for every birthday and christmas. And you spent your childhood begging and pleading with your parents who had enough disposable income to invest a couple thousand dollars into bitcoin to buy some and your parents would say "crypto is gambling. I don't want you to gamble" and every time it would hit a milestone you would point it out exasperatedly and they would say "Its a bubble, its still gambling" and you tried to pitch them on XMR when monero was worth less than 2 bucks, but they said that all crypto is gambling. And you had to watch helplessly as the price of bitcoin and monero and ethereum all rose astronomically when you had no money to buy into it. And then by the time you were old enough to buy some it was so expensive and you were a broke ass student trying to live paycheck to paycheck who salty bc you will probably never will own a whole bitcoin and if only someone fucking listened to you, then you wouldn't have to struggle to pay rent. Sigh. But yeah i'm happy for everyone who was able to get in early. And I get to say I told you so to my mom even though she still thinks bitcoin is somewhere between gambling and a ponzi scheme.

biba8163

Reminder that the ETH/BTC ratio was once 0.15 (Summer 2017). Reminder that when you are picking an Alt, you are trying to pick an Alt which bleeds the least vs BTC. They all bleed. ALT/BTC bleeding is the ONLY guarantee in crypto. | Date | ETH/BTC Ratio | |:-----------|:--------------------------------------| 12/08/2015 | ████ 0.008 12/08/2016 | ██████ 0.010 12/08/2017 | ███████████████ 0.028 12/08/2018 | ███████████████ 0.027 12/08/2019 | ███████████ 0.020 12/08/2020 | █████████████████ 0.030 12/08/2021 | ██████████████████████████████████████████████ 0.088 12/08/2022 | ██████████████████████████████████████████ 0.074 12/08/2023 | ████████████████████████████████ 0.053 12/08/2024 | ██████████████████████ 0.040 12/08/2025 | ████████████████████ 0.034 > If you think 0.04 BTC is low, the ETH/BTC ratio is going to feel like getting kicked in the nuts over and over again over the long term as the ratio falls below 0.01 and goes lower and lower. **(September 2024)*** > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. > | | Initial | High | Current | > |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| > | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC > | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS > | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC > | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9jvct/

MakCapital

You can have privacy outside of XMR. Zcash as an example. Zcash as a token with private balances and trades on Solana as another example. Hence why everyone is scrambling to get this done as we speak. Difficult to motivate people in a positive direction when you have sht coin shills more worried about their bags than scaling tech that can benefit society. Gross.

Backrus

There are only 2 good looking chart in crypto - XMR and BCH. Maybe TRX. Short hijacked coin, bid quality stocks - it's the easiest pair trade ever.

vicanonymous

Monero (XMR) is the only one with a usecase.

PirateSKB

Depends on the alt, I did pretty good on XMR tbf Now if you want to mention other alts, lots have done meh in my portfolio, but some others did alright too (based on buying them cheaper than their current price ofc)

PirateSKB

XMR did alright for me. Not amazing, not god-like, not kool-aid smashing through the wall yelling "oh yeah!" great, but it did alright

ah-hum

XMR is fully private, yes, but it won't be the transition or available option for regulation reasons. At least ZEC allows the choice, shouldn't matter what the non-private portion does, doesn't affect the private pool.

jmay111

If you really cared about privacy you would use XMR

5553331117

Or, we could adopt actual privacy coins like XMR. 

GaussAF

No one, XMR has like 95+% of the privacy volume

Spanking420

XMR for the win.

Enough-Boot32

The coordinated pump theory makes way more sense when you see how XMR stayed steady while ZEC got absolutely rekt

Aanetz

Not everyone in the planet have access to US stocks. For some places with constant hyperinflation, it's better off buying stables or BTC/ETH. Some people who want more privacy & outside the system prefer XMR / ZEC. So, yeah. BTC & Crypto isn't going away. It still serves some niche market.

Careless-Whisper1388

Do as I did, if you don't understand it, don't put your money in it. I like computers and I like mining, over the last 2 to 3 years I've been building and mining Monero XMR. It ain't much but it's honest work :)

Longjumping-Solid912

ZEC always felt like a solution looking for a problem while XMR just quietly does what it's supposed to do

RomanticDepressive

Honestly it almost makes sense to invest in XMR since it’s much easier to double than BTC, it has a tiny market cap

pet2pet1993

Meanwhile Monero stands at > $400, recoding XMR/BTC ratio ATH at ~ 0.0048. Financial privacy is fundamental human right.

PirateSKB

I might finally dump my XMR, idk yet. $400 per coin is good imo

PirateSKB

Every single XMR i've bought since I used to drone on about it here way earlier in the year is in profit. It's not a fabulous profit, but being up double - almost triple is still pretty good imo since i've been buying for around 3 years or so. I stopped buying after it started rallying though Most of my other alts are okay (lots did bad, but most were either moonshots or just secondary investments), and my BTC stash is okay as well. What did you buy that knocked you down 60%?

Pinewatch762

Btc eth link XMR

ah-hum

If you like privacy, buy a privacy coin that you think will perform well, like ZEC, XMR, DASH, even LTC and BCH apparently have some kind of privacy features). Or if you want to use smart contracts or Dapps you'll typically need to own the coin of that network to pay the operating gas fees. Then there's XNO which you'll need if you want to transact with zero fees and small amounts, it's way undervalued so price doesn't go much lower lol, but it's the only one that does this Otherwise, basically just investment and speculation because smaller coins are much more volatile and therefore can be a much better short term ROI

Majestic-Tadpole8458

XMR just getting started. FCMP++ incoming!

slipperlaunch

This isn't surrendering, this is piling on late to the dog pile of grifting. Bitcoin and many others have been tainted by those in power conceding that it isn't going away by disparaging it so they are now instead infecting it with their power and control and suppressing anything they can't control (see XMR).

Previous_Valuable873

Meanwhile XMR

Inprisonatm

Monero (XMR), the chart doesn’t lie. Every time the market dips it’s one of the best performing assets. It is a real cryptocurrency and does everything Bitcoin set out to do. Every body talks about XRP and the future of finance and where DLT is taking the world of fintech but people forget how important illicit funds are and the value of the drugs market is in the global economy. In the future and in a cashless society, where every transaction is on the blockchain and traceable privacy coins will be in high demand.

nissensjol

Is bitcoin feeless? Does it have instant transactions? Does it consume only a very small amount of energy? No, no and no. But for Nano (XNO) it’s yes, yes and yes. Also, XMR is the only true privacy coin.

Zilch274

XMR true cyberpunk

I_Stabbed_Jon_Snow

I learned C++ by finding shitcoin wallets codebase exploits in their github repos. I’ve CPU mined blocks on an active X11 chain. I’ve successfully 51% attacked a $10,000,000+ marketcap coin with my discord buddies so we could fork it to a stable codebase when malicious actors had controlled it for weeks. I worked for a top-15 cybersecurity where my only job was to school their C-suite in crypto: politics, taxes, tech, and people. I helped one of my buddies with a personal project which accidentally resulted in every major exchange on the planet pausing trading of masternode-based coins for days. My Twitter threads educating people about how masternodes work had tens of thousands of interactions. Another of my posts played a part in the downfall of Cryptobridge on the BitShares platform. You weren’t kidding when you asked about XMR, and you’re still a noob to me.

AmadeusBlackwell

XMR doesn't have contracts, so no.

raj6126

XMR?

vicanonymous

I only like Monero (XMR) these days. It's one of very few, if not the only, genuine project.

pppage

Yeah, idk. I got into crypto in 2021, it was fun with the hot wallets and riding the waves of shit coins and meme coins. I really hope there would be good utility for it. I kind of left it after may 2021 when China banning crypto crashed everything and my memcoin didn't recover, I was gambling so it was fair. But I transferred some stuff I still had sitting around to XMR to buy something and it seems like the most legit lol, people accept it as payment, sucks that it is so slow but it works, it's holding value, it is physically separated from all the other coins and doesn't get much attention which is nice. I just have bnb and xrp besides that and I think I might move it all to XMR and just hold it. I thought crypto would have real utility. NFTs for deeds was proposed. My brother, 5 years younger than me, is on the Bitcoin trian. We argued about it today and he thinks it is the future and it has no cons. It can't replace the dollar unless it changes significantly, even just looking at the lack of inflation once all the coins are out, the economy we have can't run on that, people will hoard and sit on it. Wages would decrease year after year, :l

OkSeries5363

That’s not the issue, they simple treat what happens inside Monero as blackbox they don't need to know the balances inside Monero to trace? The vulnerability isn't the holding or transfering Monero, it’s the entry and the exit. Unless you are mining Monero yourself and spending it directly on goods with a vendor who never cashes out, you eventually have to interact with the visible financial system. They don't need to decrypt the Monero blockchain to catch you. They simply see a withdrawal from A and a corresponding deposit at B shortly after. The volume + time correlation creates a statistical link that is strong enough for a subpoena. Another problem is liquidity constraints, for hiding large sums Monero creates issues, and pealing creates a strong temporal fingerprint. Lichtenstein (the Bitfinex hacker) wrote a bot to automate thousands of small transactions over several years. Because he had to break the funds down to swap them, he created a massive Breaking 120000 BTC into thousands of micro transactions. They didn't do this just for fun, they had to do it because of liquidity constraints on swap services. That necessity created a giant repeating, automated visible pattern on the blockchain. The FBI didn't crack Monero, they just watched the 'Peel Chain' feed into the black box and watched the consolidated funds come out the other side. The volume matched perfectly. ​The privacy of the coin doesn't matter if the flow of value creates a visible bridge. You admitted tumblers are risky, without realising swaping XMR to BTC behaves exactly like a tumbler from an outside perspective.

7101334

> You can send money internationally for free! Only catch is you have to spend hours making it work with all these online accounts and hard-to-understand "wallets" and a bunch of randoms are going to try and hack you! But once it's setup you can pay $0 instead of $2.99 to lend your third cousin from Zimbabwe that hundred bucks! That's a big deal for people who send remittances. Remittances and buying drugs online are two of the only actual use cases for crypto. But NANO / XLM do the former better than Bitcoin and XMR does the latter better than Bitcoin (allegedly).

Even-Medicine480

Ergo and XMR truly embody what the crypto ecosystem should be about! Quit the memecoin BS!

To_k

It’s a mix if high privacy, decentralisation and programmability. There are only a handful of PoW coins out there, Bitcoin being one of them, but they each serve a different purpose and have pros and cons. Coins like BTC lack privacy, are slow and outdated, and can’t accommodate for dApps and smart contracts well, same with most other PoW coins. PoW is fundamentally stronger than PoS both in transaction verification, and achieving true decentralisation. But Ergo offers basically mix between Eth and BTC while staying true to the idea of decentralisation. On top of that you can have optional privacy which other PoW are specialised in like XMR. Fees are also low on Erg which is a massive bonus. Rosenbridge, literally bypasses needing the use for CEXs, which is a major reason why these main coins get so corrupted by VCs and market manipulators. There’s a lot more to it, and I’m not an expert like some others, but the tech is really impressive and novel. Just because there are a lot of other cryptocurrencies, don’t let that discourage you from searching for coins that are helping to expand the tech and build on the crypto ecosystem. Even though YOU might not care about the tech now, the reason why BTC is here in the first place is due to that tech, and the philosophy of it.

missmuffin__

XMR has always seemed to live in its own little world.

RatherCynical

I focus on anything with a profitable pattern. XRP, XMR/ZEC, etc might have pumped, but not in a way that fits within an obvious pattern for the next cycle. "Hope and prayers" is not a financial strategy, knowing why something pumps is

s1ga1n7

Here it thought it was because trading XMR for BTC is at its highest ever.

trevorturtle

XMR will def recover. ADA? XRP? Maybe

Previous_Valuable873

Thats why the only coin you should invest in is XMR...look at the all time chart.

SupermarketAncient91

XMR will 100% stay Bitcoin and Ethereum will also stay although both have high fees Solana, Polygon, Bitcoin Cash, LiteCoin, and Nano are also going to stay for low-cost transactions

moldyjellybean

I expect -80% now. Pretty much all alts I had on my watchlist in 2013 2017 and 2021 are down 99% except Doge XMR

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biba8163

> If ETH recovers to that ratio It'll never happen. I've tried to explain this many times to people who are new to crypto > If you think 0.04 BTC is low, the ETH/BTC ratio is going to feel like getting kicked in the nuts over and over again over the long term as the ratio falls below 0.01 and goes lower and lower. > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. > | | Initial | High | Current | > |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| > | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC > | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS > | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC > | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC > https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9jvct/

MaximumStudent1839

Privacy may or may not be the future. But it clearly hasn’t show strong organic usage demand outside of XMR. Before ZEC hype, you can check its shielded pool was much smaller. Demand for privacy can’t be driven by hype. You either value it or you don’t. If privacy does hit an escape velocity, its tools will be easily commoditized across smart contract L1s. And all their anonymity sets would grow large enough to be negligible in probabilistic difference for detection purpose. Then the question becomes what is your moat? I can only think of social Lindyness withstanding govt crackdown on privacy etc. Monero seems like the best example. But it isn’t the one to lead this privacy rally. That alone, tells me this hype is not really privacy fundamental driven. It is used as a niche to generate a narrative to give some funds to bet on some needed short term outperformance in an asset class struggling to rally across the broad.

mynutsrbig

Supporting because BTC is for gov NSA FEd sheep. XMR is freedom.

r2cyp

I like how XMR fell 11% after this post.

tornavec

I've invested in XMR, ZEC, and TRX — with the last one staked. My portfolio has never seen a loss.

Ok_Opportunity2693

Maybe XMR, maybe ETH, the rest are pure dogshit

inShambles3749

Zec is the only shitcoin you mentioned. XMR for Privacy and BTC for transparency. Both very valid,solid usecases. And decentralized and focused on their usecase and not like the centralized fuckery of Zec which is designed to enrich the fucking founders and that's if

order-odonata

XMR - it actually has a use case

soyuz-1

Most meme coins just use SOL under the hood without any extra utility. XMR, ETH, Litecoin etc are real and useful projects.

inadyttap

XMR still hodling on, weird.....

biba8163

**Bitcoin TOP-5 Dominance** | Asset |Today | 10/6/2025 | 11/18/2024 | 11/09/2021 |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | BTC | 1.85T | 2.486T | 1.791T | 1.263T | ETH | 0.374T | 0.586T | 0.386T | 0.56T | No.3 | 0.133T (XRP) | 0.179T (XRP) | 0.113T (SOL) | 0.105T (BNB) | No.4 | 0.127T (BNB) | 0.170T (BNB) | 0.089T (BNB) | 0.075T (ADA) | No.5 | 0.077T (SOL ) | 0.126T (SOL) | 0.063T (XRP) | 0.072T (SOL) | **₿ Top-5 Dominance** |72.24% | 70.50% | 73.34% |60.85% *CMC and Other Bullshit shows BTC Dominance falling to 58.4%. This is total bullshit.* Since Stablecoins are now 10% of Total Crypto Marketcap, if BTC and Alts all fall at the same rate, it's going to show BTC dominance as falling. *BTC True Dominance (excluding Stablecoins) is still over 65%.* It's not falling. But looking further into this, *BTC True Dominance over the entire Alt Market is really not that interesting because it just continues to go up since most smaller Alts are dead* -- the investors just don't know it yet. This includes the mid-sized crytos like the Cuckdanos, ScamLinks, Hedera Hash Trashes, PolkaDumps, AlgoScams, etc. BTC and Crypto liquidity mostly seems to flow between the top Alts. It's hard to get data on this but it appears that real the money/liquidity flows mostly between the BTC and among the top 4 Alts. So looking at this, BTC Dominance over the Top 5 is actually up since 10/6/2025 when BTC was at $125K; is slightly down from 1-year ago and up ~12% from 4 years ago. TLDR; - BTC Dominance metrics are bullshit - BTC True Dominance is still 65% and hasn't fallen - Most Shitcoins are dead - Most of the Crypto liquidity is flowing between the top 5 coins and BTC Dominance over the TOP-5 is still holding steady and growing long term. *NOTE: When I say most smaller Alts are dead, I not including, XMR and TRON, which have some of the lowest correlation to BTC and appreciate/depreciate a bit differently.*

inShambles3749

Well except XMR and BTC and ETH

PirateSKB

I'm very happy with XMR tbf, just gotta find something else that does well in 2016

Previous_Valuable873

This is why people hold XMR, that's everything satoshi envisioned btc to be. No transparent government surveillance tracking bullshi! Crypto = should be anonymous, hence the name somewhat....

1DirtyOldBiker

XMR actually makes fees. ZEC is all hype bounce and 5m liquidations this morning. ZEC is also only private if you believe the private keys were actually destroyed, no proof tho. Short term, go for it, but XMR return to exchanges or privacy cluster drops early & ZEC drops like a hot rock.

skytouching

Zcash is up 190% in a month XMR 40%

PirateSKB

XMR made me a really happy boi while I was away. No regrets. Plenty of other alts did good too tbf

PirateSKB

I'm actually up alot since I took a short break from crypto. I bought a ton of XMR in the $100ish range, and a bunch of other alts

PirateSKB

Tbf over the last year or so I made good money on XMR and a few of my other alts, so i'm happy overall

ScaredElevator7151

It is a solid privacy coin that managed to beat Monero without being shilled to hell here like XMR.

INeedThatBag

One coin to dominate them all: XMR

eXch-Affiliates

Several tokens serve real purpose. BTC, LTC, ETH, SOL, XMR for starters. XRP is not and will never be one of them.

Thorsten_Speckstein

XMR and Hbar have benefits.

MaximumStudent1839

I like to think of it like what Celestia was. Back in the early innings of the bull market, the modular infrastructure was all the hype. People were hyped about how BIG DA consumption would be. So TIA pulled like a 10x+ from TGE. Over time, the real demand for DA for Celestia proved to be much lower than expected. Then, the marketing team pivoted to "modular money". It became incoherent over time because the execution L1s built on top of Celestia also had tokens competing for "money". Over time, Celestia slowly crashed from $20 to below $1. The value accrual thesis is a Frankenstein for Zcash. The first narrative is that they want Bitcoiners to think of it as a new SoV. I am not sure it makes any sense. A big portion of Bitcoiners always hated ETH for its premine, non-ossification, and PoS emission etc. They vehemently want to label ETH as a tech stock because ETH has upgrades and PoS. Zcash has PoS on its roadmap and further upgrades like enlarging its block size. It also has a premine and a previous dev mining tax. Don't see why their ETH critiques don't pass down to Zcash. Then there are Bitcoiners who are worried about the security budget issue and dislike alts for their centralization. Zcash faces the same problem with its hard cap and mining concentration. I don't understand how Zcash would crack this cultural barrier when ETH/LTC/XMR haven't. If you go through X, it is mostly alt shillers/KoLers shilling it as the next BTC. The other angle of SoV is that it is a fork of BTC with encryption. But there are already a hundred thousand different BTC forks, many with different permutations of technical additions. If you add a technical feature to a BTC fork, then it becomes the next BTC well, and then you would have a million different BTCs. Is the space ready to open this Pandora's Box? Are you ready to dilute BTC like Pump Fun did in diluting DOGE? You could make the argument, "privacy" is a high-demand feature, so we should treat it as a premium. But I don't see it in the data. In fact, private transactions on Zcash sit below 5%. Now, the second narrative is that it is the best platform to conceal transactions. First, it is debatable. Second, the token value accrual thesis is questionable. The argument is, it has the largest anonymity set in TVL for an encryption-based approach. Monero has the biggest TVL, but it uses the dummy approach. Alt L1s also have their native encryption-based protocols, but their TVL isn't as big as Zcash. This shortfall is a reflection of a lack of organic demand for privacy tech. If there is real demand for privacy, I don't see why ETH stuff like RailGun can't have higher TVL than Zcash. This Zcash TVL seems more like an artificial narrative building than organic demand. If it is just concealment, then people would just use it to transfer rather than hodl. You end up with a case like Litecoin - ppl just buy, transfer, and then sell. It is better to bet directly on intent solvers/LPs, not even NEAR TBH, to earn swap fees than hold Zcash. Generally, "crypto cash" is not a good narrative to bet on. I draw the comparison to Celestia because it is the earliest, biggest run getting hype way beyond what it shows the proportional substance.

beguiledanimal

Don’t listen to cult members like XMR people, when something has a bid regardless of how stupid it may be in reality decide short term if you can sell it to someone else for more later. Reddit people always over analyze every token and that’s what holds them back. Nothing but bitcoin should be held long term anyway.

Ferib

No, its just another shitcoin with privacy. RAIL, TORN, XMR all have more utility, and the first two are compatible with stablecoins.

Sandharbor

Anyone know where I can short XMR perps in the US? 

Legal-News-4874

Long term? None of them. There is no coin that long term keeps up with BTC, not even ETH. Short term - "Privacy" coins. Currently the only real use case altcoins making any significant gains vs BTC. ZEC, DASH, PIVX, XMR Everything else is gambling and you could probably day trade but will more than likely lose money

northcasewhite

XMR.

whisperedstate

Tha's because Monero's security is shit. Kraken removed XMR because it's been 51% attacked, so it's a liability if the chain can be reorged. https://cryptoslate.com/kraken-suspends-monero-deposits-after-51-attack/

AprilsMostAmazing

In Canada I can't even buy XMR on Kraken. Zec and Dash are fine

ScaredElevator7151

Where do you think XMR price will go next?

Previous_Valuable873

You mean XMR maybe...? XLM is different :D

AssociationMaster565

What I’ve gathered is this: -Transaction privacy is coming to the forefront. -Bitcoin has all transactions visible and some people/organizations don’t want that. Bitcoin does not yet have a total privacy ability, yet (although they may in the future). -Zcash is better protected than XMR from hacks -XMR is strictly anonymous with no option for transparency (government no likey) -This is important - Zcash gives the option to make transactions public. Which is why I think the regulators haven’t tried to ban it…yet. -I don’t know much about the role influencers have had in all this. Everything I’ve read has been more about the mission,utility, and culture shifting to privacy. -There seems to be a lot more Zcash purchases behind the scenes than most people know about, too and the W. twins backing Zcash I’m viewing as a sign that there’s some merit here…

trimalcus

Whatever XMR withstood being delisted from almost all major CEX and price is keeping up. ZEC is not delisted because not as private as XMR nor regarded as such by regulators XMR withstood qubic attack and will be updated to be even more censorless XMR roadmap is also improving privacy way further with FCMP

theweb3voyager

Biggest NGMI this year, dumped my LTC and XMR bags past year, lol

pb__

This is what makes me ~~mad~~ slightly disgruntled. ZEC is pumping like crazy and jumped over XMR. while it barely follows (yes, I'm waiting for $500, lol).

trimalcus

XMR is used however

14qr23we

they think they're gonna get rich coz "ZCash is gonna became the next bitcoin." Something like that. It kinda makes sense because if crypto and BTC really becomes mainstream, as in really, really, mainstream (you see it everyday, everywhere), then it becomes common sense that privacy is one of the things that people will search for next. But it doesn't make that much sense because when it comes to privacy, Monero (XMR) is supposedly the gold standard, not ZCash

i-hoatzin

This feels like classic cycle shakeout. Privacy coins like ZEC and XMR are just the vehicle. That's why we see the increase in demand for them. Another market rally is inevitable. There's too much manipulation on the surface and too much underlying systemic inertia.

YogurtCloset3335

Delisting hasn't done anything to XMR use, nobody who uses XMR needs to buy it on an exchange. Plenty of swap sites and multicoin wallets etc

phoebecatesboobs

Looks like he finally lost it in a boating accident. Going long on XMR.

Jeremiah__Jones

I am not keeping up with any crypto news. What did happen with that whole 51% thing on XMR? Was it resolved?

Leithm

People are rotating into privacy coins ZEC/DASH/XMR etc.

Careless-Whisper1388

Actually, Monero XMR, nobody knows that you have it or how much :)

FARIHA_SULTANA

Zcash and XMR, but their value change.

Ferib

XMR is indeed used by users who need privacy, but it lacks adoption due to delisting and failing to comply with regulations Yet privacy is a normal thing to have, and every user should have it. It is not like bank records are public. heck even HTTP alone is illegal in some places when dealing with user credentials. Would love to see more privacy adoption in Ethereum so we can actually transact privately with real users that I dont fear could dox my wallets. Or is Ethereum just one big smart casino :thinkingface:

Big-Finding2976

If I were to use XMR to buy something from a street vendor, or to lend money to a friend, or to give money to a homeless person, both parties will be aware of the transaction and anyone else won't, and that's all that's necessary.

1q1q2w3e4r

XMR is quite stable and anonymous

OkMathematician168

XMR will rise

MusaRilban

This is why coins that are fully decentralised, like BTC will always reign supreme. BTC has been accumulated by massive institutions and so definitely has some risk. It's why other proof of work coins like Ergo, with no premine, are immune to massive dumps. On 10/10 when even ADA crashed to like $0.29 (crazy), Ergo literally moved like 1%. The future of crypto has to be coins like XMR and Ergo, otherwise we're doomed.