XMR

Previous_Valuable873

Smiling in XMR. I made 2 good choices regarding crypto ever, out of 4 calls. First one was, to mine btc and LTC in 2013 with 7970's 16 of them. I accumulated 2 btc and 500 ltc, which i cashed out at the local top 1500 on mtgox, 2 weeks before they collapsed. Then said I'll never touch crypto again. Fastforward 2020, where I noticed everybody buying crypto is thinking they are buying XMR, while they are not. Non fungible, traceable, transparent assets galore, which meant for me from that point btc, eth, anything was a shitcoin, but xmr. Started stacking around 150, then binance delisting to 90, all the way stacking, all my friends pay me in xmr, i pay them in xmr, my visa card is xmr backed, life is good really. Whoever is still believing any other coin is worthwile to keep is in for a bit of a surprise the next 2-3 years... I once said XMR will be 5k sooner than ETH ever again, OR that btc will definitely not reach the inflation adjusted 120k ever again (which would be around 150 by now and is getting even farther...) I dont mind if the crypto space shrinks to 1T, with 4 coins having any significant marketcap....

poginmydog

Owning cryptocurrency isn’t illegal in China. Buying, selling, trading is illegal. Mining at small scale is legal as well, meaning small amounts of XMR mining on your home PC is perfectly fine. The ownership and possession of cryptocurrency in China is perfectly legal and they are viewed as property.

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Realistic_Fee_00001

> use as a currency is laughable This is actually the first and still the most relevant use case. In this crazy corrupted world a sound p2p monetary system would be a breath of fresh air. Which is exactly the reason why BTC got crippled and took the whole space with it. But the genie is out of the bottle. XMR or BCH will take that torch to the finish line so people can enjoy better money.

mellowanon

unfortunately, XMR market cap is too little for large nations to use.

teknic111

XMR does that better.

Previous_Valuable873

Number 2 is totally not true, everyone kinda thought they are buying XMR when using BTC for that....

Icy_Start_1653

XMR is the king!

TheDookieboi

All of those are valued in dollars. Not XMR. Not ZEC. If you’re looking to make purchases of those things you need dollars.

Previous_Valuable873

I am doing extremely well with XMR thank you. Actually the only true fungible cash like crypto, what everyone thought BTC is when hearing about crypto. Zcash you say? Come on, you see how rugged it is...

Previous_Valuable873

Smiling in XMR

op-owl

1 BTC is not equal to 1 BTC. AML makes sure that there are clean coins and dirty coins 1 XMR = 1 XMR though

Blade_Runner_69

XMR is down 12% because of market liquidity and general bear market conditions, ZioCash crashed 53% in the last few weeks because of manipulation and now weak fundamentals that have been exploited. They are not the same.

Honest_Country_525

And XMR crashed 12% in sympathy when it should be rising because of weakness in a competitor.

Realistic_Fee_00001

It's pumped as controlled opposition. Todd was there at the beginning . Same with BTC vs BCH. Use the untainted OGs XMR and BCH.

CounterAdmirable4218

The winner of the privacy coin battle won’t be ZEC. Nor will it be XMR. It will be Litecoin with optional privacy.

Choice_Potato_6279

Historically this sub is always wrong on alts so probably XMR will flop.

EndSmugnorance

Are you still holding XMR or nah

Serenaded

Hence why I just sold ZEC 3 days ago for XMR. XMR is clearly the only one in use for its usecase. ZEC's run is exhausted.

Serenaded

\>A bug was discovered that had been dormant for years and could in theory allow someone to mint ZEC in the shielded pool Literally everyone was saying this when it was pumping that it's shady AF and has backdoors. XMR was always the only one. ZEC is for the greedy and foolish. All these bagholders deserve it. This basically officially means XMR won the head to head. ZEC might be dumping now, XMR is going to pump out of this as it's now the undisputed king of darkfi.

PonkeSolWhalePro

ZEC non ha fondamenta vere come XMR

0fWhomIAmChief

Damn, Ai's wrecking ZEC? So much for being an actual contender with XMR 

anymonero

I'm comfy holding XMR

Previous_Valuable873

What a day to be alive, XMR is flipping ADA 😃

HeftyImprovement3847

And everyone I told mknths ago that XMR will be 5k sooner than ETH ever again, doubted me. So far on track lulz

Serenaded

It's funny af how basically the entire internet agrees that XMR is the way to go and no one is ever going to use ZEC for its actual usecase as long as XMR exists.

VollcommNCS

Zec privacy is currently better than XMR. They do not have government back doors. Whatever you monero people have to say to convince yourselves, that's fine. XMR is cool and was necessary for privacy to evolve, but some of the community members are just full of themselves.

Normal-Spell5339

XMR is actively de anonymized by Moonlight Research and ChainAnalysis. Through malicious light nodes and other means. XMR is no silver bullet and frankly because it’s used more it’s likely subverted more

Adventurous-Status38

FUD all you want. ZEC is making holders rich and XMR holders poor lol

Normal-Spell5339

That’s a silly take. If they were backdooring it they wouldn’t do a press release about it. All this means is making it so that you can show the origins of funds if you want, just like you can with XMR, they ship that feature with the core wallet to “prove”transactions if you choose to. It’s the same functionality in both XMR and ZEC. Google moonlight research if you want to see devs corrupting the privacy of XMR.

Normal-Spell5339

If you transact in XMR it is transparent at the ends. The entity sending you XMR knows where it went and the receiver knows where they received it from. If you buy it from Kraken or a swap site they know X address bought Y amount. Similarly wherever it’s offloaded knows the address sending to it and the transaction it’s involved in and the amount. But if the amounts aren’t exactly the same and you make use of the shielded pool at some point you have anonymity. With the coming CARROT upgrade there will be transparent pools in XMR just like ZEC. This facilitates defi swaps like actual ones not the jankey ass Haveno stuff. That’s the main use of transparent pools in ZEC, for DeFi. That’s probs why its price has been going crazy, it’s like XMR but easier to obtain. You don’t have to find an exchange that lists it you can just bridge to it.

Normal-Spell5339

What back door? Won’t it be on the same level of privacy once they implement CARROT in XMR? Transparent and non transparent pools so you can have anonymity AND bridge-Ability? And XMR will catch up in terms of privacy and be on equal footing with the ZEC once they implement FCMP++. You’ll upgrade from rings to the entire chain is your privacy ring. A lot of people have not really researched these things before forming an opinion

Blade_Runner_69

Stay well away from zcash it was created by Zionists from unit 8200. Avoid like the plague. It is manipulated to high heaven. XMR is way superior.

NightKnight_CZ

The beggining of dynocoins comeback Litecoin, XRP, XMR, XLM.... but Litecoin will be the winner, because it is the oldest Proof of Work altcoin to exist

westcoast5556

I had hoped projects like XMR, Nerva or blur-network might become the peoples coin, but the bitcoin & ETH snobs just sneer at newer/smaller projects.

Previous_Valuable873

What you are thinking BTC was is XMR to be honest.... 99% of people bought bitcoin thought they bought digital permissionless, untraceable "wealth".

Serenaded

They're throwing trillions of dollars at quantum computing in the next 5 years just in USA alone. That FUD has been around for about a year now, and BTC still has no realistic way of tackling it except to completely dismantle the chain and turn it into something else, where old wallets won't even be compatible anymore. It's just looking bad for BTC in a way that it never has before. QC is not an if, it's a when. I moved to a 50/50 split of ETH and XMR.

kowalabearhugs

To they extent that they're able I feel some are comfortable staying within the Monero or greater cryptocurrency ecosystem. It's not uncommon to see talk of the circular economy and agorism. For accounting purposes XMR transactions can be treated similar to cash transactions. Monero offers some view-key capabilities that allow a user to selectively disclose transactions should that be warranted.

Gangaman666

💯 BTC and XMR only for me. But I do think ETH has a future. Im Just not a fan of POS coins. The rest is noise to me.

askolein

Buy BTC XMR ETH only real demand for these supplies Rest (XLM ALGO XRP LINK) is full bs

Scagnettio

XMR would be so much better. Or a safe swap between BTC and XMR but this would probably require some changes to BTC which Block stream would never allow.

Vegetable-Squirrel98

I wouldn't use wallets tied to your identity and your good Convert to XMR, pay your taxes once incase your audited, idk how much canada does that on btc, and then move it back to bitcoin in a wallet not tied to your kyc Spend it as you want with out a paper trail

TechCynical

i mean this is just some elitest contrarian take. You can be more decentralized than some centralized counter part and still be relatively centralized to some federated database. Your punching the air trying to argue something isnt fully decentralized when no one is 100% trying to argue other projects with smaller teams are 100% fully decentralized. The whole point of scaling is to make things easier for the team to grow and build out especially when theres hundreds of blackhats and your trying new and untested methods of scaling. Like people clown on some L1's for rolling back the chain due to a bug but bitcoin had this within its first years as well lol. [https://decrypt.co/39750/184-billion-bitcoin-anonymous-creator](https://decrypt.co/39750/184-billion-bitcoin-anonymous-creator) you had probably 50 nerds poking around something with little to no fiat conversion so things werent that serious if something broke. You could just try again and call it a day and probably be praised for it. But now you have entire nation states literally assigning massive task forces to exploit and break protocols to gain money on the regular like north koreas lazurus group. Let alone the thousands of blackhat hackers ready to run away with their loot as they convert it to XMR and leave no trace. Centralization is mainly a feature with newer protocols as the general goal is to stay centralized and slowly become more decentralized as things get better and better. Not only to avoid something similar to what happened with bitcoin, but also the bigger risk that exists now. The main difference is that now there is a better / clearer path towards decentralization unlike existing systems. Either you made this post choosing to ignore that so you can shadow box your own thoughts, or you really didnt consider that protocols want to be as decentralized as bitcoin 10 years down the line, just like bitcoin itself.

Serenaded

Should've used XMR like everyone else in darkfi.

Crypto-Bets

Nope. XMR is not ideal for a terrorist organization, they wouldn’t be able to spend it & slippage would be massive. They should have stuck to Solana & ETH like most terrorist……

WendyDumpsterFire

Should have used XMR 

WendyDumpsterFire

They should use XMR 

Roaring_lion_

I don’t think we’re actually that far apart. My point wasn’t “BTC perfect, everything else fake.” My point was that BTC has the cleanest decentralization argument: no issuer, no CEO, no foundation roadmap, no VC cap table, no stablecoin dependency, and very limited ability for insiders to change the rules. XMR is probably one of the better counterexamples because it actually has real utility: privacy. I’ll give you that. But privacy and decentralization are not the same thing. A project can be private and still depend on a smaller dev community, mining structure, liquidity chokepoints, exchange access, and regulatory pressure points. So XMR doesn’t really refute the argument. It proves the point: the list of projects that even deserve to be in the “actually decentralized” conversation is tiny.

HeftyImprovement3847

Smiling in XMR

Chuckychinster

I gotta be honest, it's hard to understand your criticisms when you're saying BTC is distinguished from these "centralized" coins. If you want real decentralization... options are thin. XMR is the only coin that I ever shill, and it's usually things like this. When people talk about crypto and what it was "supposed to be", if that's the line of thinking then XMR is the only coin I personally know of to preserve utility, privacy, AND decentralization.

SensitiveAd6131

Technology is a train with only one direction. Once any process can be upgraded it will be so. It doesn’t matter the bumps, regulations or anything really that steps in the way. I’d say we are very early and i’ll also say that right now it’s basically undercover. People only talk about price action and not about infrastructure which is what is really going to make it. I like to think of crypto or blockchain as a “city”. BTC would be the bank Etherum would be the computer Cardano would be congress XMR would be the red light district LINK would be the eyes of them all In the end Blockchain is an opportunity for humanity of scaping the vicious cycles that end civilizations, greed, printing money, corruption… It still presents challenges tho.. if the world is digital and on smart contracts there’s little to none room for negotiation. If the world is digital if you aren’t digital too you won’t exist and won’t be able to survive. I would apply buffets: Buy fundamentals and hold instead of chasing green candles. The cheaper you buy the better.

buy_bitcoin_orwhatev

Let’s be real; it’s only worth having btc, and maybe 2-3 others. Y’all can fight over which ones, but I think XMR and ETH deserve a conversation. What other alts would you even consider holding at this point?

No-Masterpiece2246

No particular order. Each has its pros and cons. ETH for example has some drama happening with the Foundation again, but has increased throughput and lowered fees with the latest code. BCH has great devs but hardly any marketing. XMR is used by a huge community but has a dark side with its darknet ties.

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Post is by: tornavec and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1tnxn63/trump_freed_crypto_but_privacy_coins_are_still/ Donald Trump is widely regarded as the first 'crypto president', having dedicated himself to making cryptocurrency accessible in the United States and around the world. He succeeded in bringing high-profile investigations against crypto industry leaders to a close, and granted pardons to Ross Ulbricht and Changpeng Zhao. However, anonymous coins have not been spared — quite the opposite, in fact. New laws being considered and passed by Congress could ultimately ban private coins. David Sacks, the Trump administration's crypto czar, is promoting such a ban. U.S. crypto exchanges are taking pre-emptive action. In March 2025, Kraken suspended XMR trading for EEA clients. Binance delisted the coin earlier that same year. In April 2025, Poloniex delisted Monero globally. Zcash can still be purchased in the US on Coinbase, Robinhood and Phemex. The overall trend for anonymous coins is negative. By 2025, 73 exchanges worldwide had delisted at least one privacy coin — up from 51 in 2023. Crypto gateways provide stable support for anonymous coins. Customers can legally purchase them through Cryptomus, NOWPayments, CoinPayments and CoinRemitter. This opens up the possibility of ZCash and Monero being adopted for corporate and retail payments. Grayscale’s conversion of the ZCash Trust into a spot ZEC ETF could spark institutional interest. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*

KrustyLemon

Would you be able to answer that question if you're knowledgeable about XMR?

loveforyouandme

This applies to XMR how?

Different-Usual-3519

I agree with you to some extent. It feels like the innovation has faded until you actually look at the low-profile projects that are shaping the future of both inventions. Take, for example, Monero (XMR). A privacy coin- completely unheard of by some and yet it grew its market cap and will soon be one of the first cryptocurrencies to implement quantum-resistance, along with FCMP++ which will bring us for the most private digital asset ever made. Take for example Hyperliquid, a DeFi platform allowing people to trade without KYC, delays or other problems. Tron, Solana, other smart contract blockchains are the foundation of crypto gambling, some games, tokenized assets and such. Regarding AI, some say it's in a bubble, I agree partially. Not so much is being given to the public and tons of the tools are overhyped with low output but I feel like the progress has been rapid and just because it feels stagnant now doesn't mean we won't get something to be excited about very soon. Opportunity isn't dead. If you wanna invest there is always something to buy and many things have great potential.

Previous_Valuable873

XMR says hello

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

Feels like every time governments crack down, the group chats suddenly become full-time research labs lol. Most people I know who got into crypto socially never expected to end up learning privacy mechanics just to move funds without stress. The XMR angle always comes up first, but then everyone starts overthinking traces and patterns anyway.

matedalmata

OG stack: BTC, ETH, XMR. DeFi: UNI IMF All or nothing PBAs: OG $mcdc on SOL $BUSINESS on ETH

Cryptocaller

No they don’t actually, sorry. You can get wrapped Monero there (wXMR) because Uniswap functions on the Ethereum chain but you can’t get the real XMR. Apologies for the confusion.

cedarrapidsiaus

XRP, XLM, HBAR, QNT, and XMR I see as alts having big use cases and adoption by 2030

Tasty-Effective-1899

Bitcoin and XMR

ThreeTonChonker

ETH will be lucky to ever get near $3k again. Awful investment since they switched to PoS. XMR will never hit $1k. The whales are criminal enterprises and they don’t give a shit about XMR as an investment. Good luck though!

inadyttap

I love how XMR is holding up since February! 

ThreeTonChonker

“Not sure what graph” There aren’t multiple graphs. Look at any 10Y chart. “Counting inflation and everything else” Counting all of that, XMR is back to where it was 10 years ago. “XMR will be $5k” lol

inadyttap

I love how XMR is holding up since February! 

inadyttap

I love how XMR is holding up since February! 

No-Masterpiece2246

You're overestimating the power of governments to regulate and control crypto. Trump's coin is not crypto. Stablecoins are not crypto. XRP is not crypto. Uncensorable decentralized networks like ETH, XMR, BCH, SOL, LTC, etc are crypto.

yefuck

I too wanted to do this when ZEC hit $700 knowing a pump for XMR would follow and… didn’t find anywhere.

Absurd_Zer0

Monero (XMR)

Previous_Valuable873

Look at SOL or any other altcoin... How would you be doing with that? My cost average is 168 on XMR plis.

ThreeTonChonker

On Jan 8th 2017, XMR climbed all the way to $399. Nearly 10 years later, XMR is now worth $386 after crashing and going sideways for years. No thanks.

Digital-Exploration

XMR is good for drugs.  Cryptocurrency has a place currently and to say it's worthless is too far. 

ThreeTonChonker

The crypto world is slowly accepting that the only thing that matters is trust. My first crypto was RaiBlocks, aka Nano. It’s a flawless coin. Fastest transaction speeds, could handle volume, easy to use wallets, etc. But the team fucked up and trusted some Italian guy named Bomber to run the main exchange for the coin. He stole the coins, sold them all and tanked the market, and never faced any consequences. In the years following the only coins that seemed worth the trouble of holding were BTC, ETH, XMR. ETH still can’t decide what it wants to be. The majority is still held by whales and the price has been sideways. Fascinating tech, Vitalik is a genius, but it’s not really an investment. XMR is probably what crypto should be. But again, the monero team has made something very functional but there’s zero reason to hold it. The 10Y chart will tell you the truth. BTC is just perfect. I think gold and silver are awful investments that just so happened to go on a bull run because of the pandemic and Trump. It’s only a matter of time until BTC overtakes gold, especially since it actually functions as a currency. So basically? If you buy and hold BTC you will likely find yourself amongst the 1% of wealthy and forward thinking humans within your lifetime. Future generations will study why some people could recognize BTC’s oncoming dominance, while most couldn’t.

TheKaotiicImpulse

Watch Andrei Jikh’s recent videos. He goes over crypto and stablecoins very well. BTC and XMR

Good_Roll

that's why BTC ETH and XMR are the only non-shitcoins, they all provide tangible value beyond being purely speculative assets. BTC is a replacement for a savings account, ETH is the plumbing on which the (good) exchanges are built, and XMR is the cash-equivalent(private, fungible, most of the Tx volume is actual spending and not driven by speculation. It genuinely acts like a currency not an equity).

GlockenspielVentura

The market is maturing. Eth was massively overvalued in 2021 and it's market cap is limited by defi adoption. Btc is only limited by demand for monetary premium, which is virtually unlimited. The only winners going forward will be the top defi rails, BTC, stablecoins and one or two privacy coins, most likely XMR

ProfitAccording4178

\[covert.exchange\](http://covert.exchange) has both ZEC and XMR, there you can swap easily and liquidity is quite big.

matchday_museum

One of many instances showing that as per privacy ZEC is half measure. But still wonder why they dont allow ZEC s address but XMR is fine, which is all 'shielded' by default.

MrFrydenlund89

Yeah I tried out ZEC for the first time last month, new wallet setup and everything. Then found out that every damn unshileded tx may as well be bitcoin, except you dont get a new address each time but need a new seed. So I just got XMR instead.

Extreme_Camera9649

just spend it directly instead of cashing out to your bank accoun. there's giftcards, there's gold and silver , there's smartshops. whatever, it that doesn't work convert to XMR and go on xmrbazaar

Previous_Valuable873

I am 98% sure most of you and others who say this, if it would happen, you'd be like "omg what if it goes to 15?" and not buy.... I am hoping for it because then all my bags on XMR will become top 3 coin for sure XD

foreveryoungperk

its government regulations thats the problem. crypto wins in the long run. XMR for life baby

JuryNightFury

Monero is the one. XMR, read up about it.

sharyphil

BTC is the only real coin. ETH is the only altcoin. Everything else is shitcoins (except for Monero XMR which is a crimecoin).

look_45

[covert.exchange](http://covert.exchange) has both ZEC and XMR, there you can swap easily and liquidity is quite big.

fluffyponyza

lol this thread is just all sorts of stupid. They temporarily paused deposits, not withdrawals - you could always withdraw to XMR. They moved to new infrastructure.

TechCynical

* [u/CryptoMaximalist](https://www.reddit.com/user/CryptoMaximalist/) * [u/sgtslaughterTV](https://www.reddit.com/user/sgtslaughterTV/)  * [u/baklavamaster](https://www.reddit.com/user/baklavamaster/)  * [u/Spacesider](https://www.reddit.com/user/Spacesider/)  * [u/nanooverbtc](https://www.reddit.com/user/nanooverbtc/)  * [u/CryptoSkeptics](https://www.reddit.com/user/CryptoSkeptics/) are mods seriously allowing people to just blatantly lie and review bomb a product? The dex didnt do anything at all you can visit either the site or the founders response. All they did was make it so that you have to withdraw via the terminal rather than the main site. They literally just deprecated XMR1 from the current site and you have to visit another place to manage it. No rug, soft rug, or anything of that regard. Yet op obviously paid for upvotes / comments to spread lies probably as a competing product. This is literally 1 google search away from being proven false. No wonder crypto is dead when even the subreddit for "crypto" is just filled daily with slop and lies

TheGDC33

About three months ago XMR bottomed around $305 and hit close to that about a month later. So 33% + move isn't bad to be fair. What are the Zcash gains looking like

givenofaux

When it comes to Electric Coin Co.‘s Zcash, even powerful zero knowledge proof encryption—zk-SNARKs—can be overcome. The blockchain intelligence firm claims that it is able to provide the transaction value—and at least one address involved in the payment—for more than 99% of ZEC activity. Thus, because the majority use them in a “straightforwardly identifiable way,” shielded pools rarely offer a cloak of invisibility. “Dash and Zcash allow users to conduct transactions with greater privacy, but that doesn’t mean they provide total anonymity,” the blog explained. “The two cryptocurrencies’ privacy features—both in how they’re built as well as how they’re used in the real world—leave room for investigators and compliance professionals to investigate suspicious or illicit activity and maintain compliance.” Privacy? What privacy? The research suggesting that privacy coins aren’t all they’re cracked up to be has been building up for some time. As reported by Modern Consensus last month, a study by Carnegie Mellon University revealed that just 0.09% of Zcash transactions in a 30-day period were untraceable. The reason was simple: so few Zcash users “turn on” the privacy feature that the “shielded pool” of Zcash is miniscule, and even the shielded ZEC connects to “transparent” transactions. Researchers warned its ecosystem “is not conducive towards achieving anonymity for its users”—and pointed out that, in any case, most criminals preferred to use Bitcoin anyway, partly because privacy coins are difficult to buy and sell on exchanges. Its findings also revealed why Chainalysis is still unable to support the Monero privacy coin. The university concluded that XMR’s approach means that it is “much harder” to trace payments made using this cryptocurrency. With Monero, a single-use address is generated every time a transaction is performed—and ring signatures that add decoys have been introduced to narrow traceability further. “The percentage of partially or fully deducible transactions has been nearly zero for over two years,” Carnegie Mellon said at the time.

Leithm

Privacy becoming a thing, ZEC/XMR/Dash all strong recently

MrWonderfulPoop

You need to keep up with the times. Thor will have XMR very soon.

NFTbyND

> This is another reminder that XMR cannot be bought through a real DEX That's wrong. Thorswap is making it possible.

look_45

[covert.exchange](http://covert.exchange) has both ZEC and XMR, there you can swap easily and liquidity is quite big.

FriendsMade_MeDoIt

My guess is part of it is just traders rotating into whatever looks “undervalued” relative to older privacy coins. ZEC has one of those charts where once momentum starts, people pile in fast even if the fundamentals debate never really gets settled. Also feels like exchange accessibility matters more than people admit. A lot of casual traders can still buy ZEC pretty easily compared to XMR in some regions, and that alone changes volume behavior a ton. I’ve seen plenty of people in crypto circles who like Monero more philosophically but still trade ZEC because it’s simpler to access on their normal exchange.

Choice_Potato_6279

How's that blockchain reorg going on that XMR experienced a year ago broski?

Choice_Potato_6279

So did XMR or in that matter any coin.

Choice_Potato_6279

ZEC privacy wasn't cracked, XMR was compromised by a blockchain reorg, it's no longer viewed safe. It's funny how another reddit's favorite goes to shit, like with DAI.

Big-Finding2976

OK, I pick LTC for optional privacy and XMR for real privacy.