XMR

Flashy-Potatoe-Queen

Kraken is a solid platform to make your purchase and/or to trade.... but the first purchase you should make as a beginner is a coldwallet. Buying coins is meaningless if you keep yourself vulnerable. A coldwallet is not a "safety option" it's the minimum requirement. Tangem is probably the best for begginers if you buy a set of 3 and go seedless. Otherwise Ledger and Trezor are also pretty solid. If you want to invest in crypto, you need to know why you are here to pick the right thing for you : - You want to trade ? Pick coins with a lot of volume like BTC, ETH and SOL. - You want to invest long term and let it grow ? Go for decentralisation to avoid long term manipulation with things like BTC, KAS or XMR. - You want to gamble ? At least do your own research to learn how to avoid the most obvious scams, there are tons of it. Good luck on your adventure and trust no one, ESPECIALLY if that personne DMed you first, they are 99.9% of the time dirty scammers acting friendly to empty your accounts.

LTP-N

Isn't that the point of XMR?

zmooner

There are many decentralized options to get XMR

Due-Professional6824

Sooner or later you wont have a XMR option at all on any exchange. Prepare accordingly.

Blade_Runner_69

Hey bro I'm saying this for your benefit and not being an ass, but if you must buy crypto you need to sell all this and buy 40% BTC 40% ETH and use the 20% to speculate. What you currently own has a massive risk compared to the big 2 which are risky enough. Personally I stick with BTC and XMR only.

syKonaut

Coinbase and Kraken both are CEX's that support XMR.

Previous_Valuable873

What bear market lol, I am 2x up since 2025 with XMR :D

nunchyadrup

BTC for sure, as everyone says here, but i also believe in XMR and SOL future

DebugDiag

I’m sticking for now with BTC and XMR.

DangerHighVoltage111

You should at least accept BCH, LTC and XMR these are the usual payment blockchains. BTC is slow as hell if it is not LN. For Bitcoin Cash there are these full blown payment options: https://prompt.cash https://nowpayments.io/supported-coins/bitcoin-cash-payments https://www.bitrequest.io And the simplest one I could find: https://scantopay.cash/#/ Just to give you and idea what exists.

No-Masterpiece2246

Was looking for XMR. Growth potential is huge as people figure out privacy. Grassroots.

Aanetz

XMR. Much like BTC, it's not going away. Not with all the surveillance state & tech giants snooping every faucet of our lives.

lessgo321

XMR

Realistic_Fee_00001

>There are only a handful of altcoins, whos blockchain can pull off serious tech. E.g. SUI, ICP, TAO, etc. You wrote BCH + XMR weirdly.

raj6126

It’s all defi junk. This doesn’t happen with a distributed ledger. No there’s BTC,XMR and the rest are shit coins.

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IndustryMaximum83

So Aptos is a “major” blockchain? Compared to what, the memecoins and shitcoins? Theres BTC, ETH, XMR, and everything else, and the everything else has been a carousel of promises, pump-and-dumps, manufactured hype, and failure for the last decade or so.

Federal-Anything5312

You use swap sites that dont need accounts to swap to XMR, then use another site a bit later to swap back to whatever you want to a new wallet. Preferably use multiple sites and different amounts. If you do 10k in then 10k out a few hours later to a new wallet it will be obvious. I obviously won't recommend any sites but you should be able to find some yourself, choose ones that aren't known for "surprise kyc" and maybe don't do everything at once if you are worried about losing it all. You will lose a little in swap fees too ofc.

marciesherrie

XMR

tek3k

Your logic: "Bitcoin is number one only ...only bc it weas first." Ford is the best car bc it was first AOL is the best email bc it was first Yahoo is the best search bc it was first Napster is the best music bc it was first MySpace is the best social media bc it was first Blackberry is the best phone bc it was first "Every crypto is fundamentally the same..." LUNA BTC ETH XMR USDC Oh yeah. I see your point. /s

PhoenixJ3

BTC: store of value ETH: smart contracts XMR: p2p digital cash. Maybe a few other longshots like LINK BCH DOGE for reasons I'm sure you can guess after minimal research.

Alukardh

Btc, ltc, eth, XMR, sol for sure.

Efficient_Ice_1001

The question isn't who is selling, the question is who is buying when crypto returns look like this and a safe boring boomer S&P 500 index is returning 164% from early 2018 and 65% from late 2021? LTC is -18 from December 2013 XRP is -55% from December 2017 ADA is -80% from December 2017 ZEC is -45% from January 2018 XMR is -20% from January 2018 ETH is -18% from January 2018 when accounting for inflation LINK is -60% from 2020 SOL is -70% from 2021 price BNB is -20% from 2021 price Even BTC is -13% from 2021 high

anymonero

At around 8KH/s (which your CPU should get), you get .0006 XMR (18¢) per day. Plus, you can merge mine Tari but that's basically worthless at this point.

Realistic_Fee_00001

Get with the times. BTC is hijacked and crippled. It ever only be a speculative token. Sound money can be found at BCH and XMR these days.

libretumente

100% agree. Stacking LTC and XMR

Gangaman666

BTC will survive and thrive as usual. XMR will thrive as we lose our privacy more and more and people realise moneros benefits. I'm not so sure about 90% of the random shit coins though, perhaps ETH will survive too as it has institutional backing. So I partially agree.

Aanetz

ETH, TON because telegram isn't going away. Hyperliquid because defi trading is still big. XMR is definitely getting bigger in the future because the surveillance state is upon us all.

PhoenixJ3

XMR is alive and well for 12 years now despite gov/press campaigns against it and forced exchange delistings. P2P money route's around government approval.

Bazaruta

There are. ETH is useful for smart contracts. ZEC and XMR provide privacy on transactions. HYPE is kinda like a stock, like binance and coinbase stock. Just to name a few. But true for the average coin, there is none…yet people throw money at it. When a 5 min google search would tell you that, the thing you are paying for is worthless.

DangerHighVoltage111

> It was supposed to be a currency and act like digital decentralized cash And the coins that pursue this goal, like BCH or XMR, will be the only coins left at the end, because the only alternative outcome is a privacy and surveillance hell called CBDCs. Don't pay attention to all the distractions. Divide and conquer still works.

Hedera-HBAR

I'd argue a lot more than 0.01% of people buy Bitcoin & XMR for censorship resistance and digital privacy

Previous_Valuable873

Smiles in XMR

VeroCSGO

Generally speaking BTC, XMR maybe XRP are the only coins worth investing in, everything else is just based on hype. The only use to crypto that has been shown is to pay for things anonymously. XMR is used by drug dealers so it has good fundamentals BTC is still used for this but is generally out of favour due to a highly trackable ledger and high fees for the privelige

Chemical_Beyond_5972

Won't change much. XMR will still be king

Horror_Pitch_63

Litecoin has never been a good investment. Honestly BTC isn't either as it's mathematically impossible for 1 BTC to get to 1 million as that would mean BTC is worth more than the entire world GPD lol So yea, pick your coins based on math and history. LTC has never done well, I wouldn't expect it to ever get above 150/coin XMR is a MUCH better investment. Once the masses realize that they are being tracked through the BTC chain, they will realize it isn't "digital cash" - however, XMR is actual digital cash. Just like real cash, it's untraceable

Logical_Lemming

ETH, UNI, WLD. Holding XMR but not buying more because it didn't dump enough for my taste.

Discokruse

Most of my bitcoin has been mortgaged through [Salt Lending](https://borrower.saltlending.com/register?referralCode=OsyxH) because selling is a taxable event. When Bitcoin hit $120k, I pulled the trigger on a loan and bought some real estate. Borrowing has no taxable event and 8% APR is better than 15% long term capital gains. I still hold it, but a sudden drop in value could liquidate most of my holdings. No lending platform exists for XMR quite yet....although that's a really good idea! In the meantime, I am simply building my forever home in the country.

HeftyImprovement3847

Smiles in XMR

mrjune2040

Yeah- XMR-LTC swaps make sense, I used to do the same. For XMR that's probably still a good option. And LTC is/was always a good transactional tool but that doesn't equate to token value unfortunately. Plus, even Eth mainnet fees a negligible these days so the majority of people are transferring via stables (mainnet or L2's). XMR is kind of an exception in that sense.

obxnc

I buy LTC all the time to convert to XMR due to the transaction speed and minimal fees but I also don't keep up with crypto nearly as much as I did 9 or 10 years ago. Is there a better crypto to use for stacking XMR?

0fWhomIAmChief

This not being a problem for XMR is a feature, not a bug.

mnaa1

Centralized entities will always freeze your account for any doubts, banks will hold transactions the moment they have a reason. Keep your crypto in your own personal hardware wallet. These entities are against privacy protocols such as XMR.

shaunj72143

100k and anything involving XMR. Gotta the Monero private, the powers that shouldn't be HATE privacy coins

baconcheeseburgarian

"I wanted some funds in my bank so I swapped some XMR from my Cake wallet to USDT directly into my Coinbase address" You're surprised that they held a deposit of funds that was swapped from XMR?

TCr0wn

id bet its the XMR / USDT swap and deposit

tutoredstatue95

Coinbase and others are really cracking down on compliance these days. XMR uses stealth addresses, so the funds arent linked to your cake wallet directly. Every tx looks fresh to the compliance engine, history doesnt matter here. Have you done 100k+ before? Maybe it got flagged for size. Unfortunately this is a "known" risk and all you can do is go through the kyc dance. Coinbase wants institution money, institutions need compliance. I'd be very careful moving privacy assets in and out of exchanges going forward, it will only get worse.

Realistic_Fee_00001

The goal was control over your money and the freedom to transact. BTC botched this. Bitcoin was cheap and easy to use before the blocks got full. If you use a custodial wallet your coins can be seized at any time. This happens all the time, e.g. they don't find your KYC sufficient, they don't like the history of one of your coins etc. If you want to gamble for dollars custodial is fine, you are gambling anyway. If you want sound money you need to use a Bitcoin or Blockchain that works. My suggestion: BCH or XMR.

SheKnows9797

Honestly your current approach already sounds closer to “responsible long-term allocation” than most people in crypto. The main thing I’d be careful about is changing it just for “tidying it up” rather than because your thesis on any of those assets has changed. A few thoughts: * BTC heavy + ETH + some privacy exposure (XMR/ZEC) already gives you diversification across different narratives * SOL/BNB are more ecosystem / platform bets, so swapping into them is less about simplification and more about shifting conviction * “Set and forget” only works if you’re actually comfortable holding through full cycles without reacting to short-term sentiment If anything, the bigger question is not “should I condense” but “do I still believe each of these has a reason to exist in my portfolio 5–10 years from now?” If yes, there’s not a strong need to optimize it further.

Realistic_Fee_00001

USDT was always a criminal company, centralized and could control your money at any point. Why did your friend use it? How introduced him to p2p cash? Why didn't they tell him about the scammers and pitfalls? >Kindly suggest any cheap solutions to this Use sound money like BCH and XMR.

RealManHumanMan

Anyone not going XMR is a fool

Discokruse

Monero XMR...finite supply + privacy

Da_WooDr

Siacoin, Holochain, Amp, XRP, XLM, LTC, Dash, BCH, ZEC, VeChain, Mana, ICP, XDC, Algo, Link, FileCoin, XMR,

Big-Finding2976

Ledger and Keystone support XMR.

unknowngloomth

An EXCHANGE with all sort of cryptocurrencies listed onto it. No banning crypto at all. For instance, tier 1 CEXs delisted privacy coins such as XMR

BookOfKingsOfKings

I’m no pro and haven’t held either but Ive heard sketchy things about ZEC, whereas XMR seems to have an airtight record; also privacy optional vs privacy mandated, by default (respectively)

BookOfKingsOfKings

Thoughts on XMR? Any particular reason you hold ZEC over XMR?

financeguruIB

I’m intrigued by $BCH. I will look into it. $ZEC is one of my bags. Also considering $XMR

financeguruIB

Privacy is a big selling point for sure. Imagine it’s a 6B mcap and no exchange carries it. With the rise of AI inching closer and closer, we need privacy more than ever. I hold ZEC but i might also start accumulating XMR

BookOfKingsOfKings

At the moment, XLM. Exited HBAR to reallocate my liquidity but as I am making more income now I may get back into it. Looking into XMR but that one is a little tougher as no exchange wants to carry it these days, nor any cold wallet wants to support it. But I think the privacy-centric design is a big selling point.

Distinct-Presence52

Because ZEC is not private. Thats why they used XMR. Because it is everything people say ZEC is but without the lies.

CriticalCobraz

tl;dr: An onchain investigation by ZachXBT revealed that an unknown entity routed **$120.2 million in USDT** through a complex chain of swaps, triggering a sharp spike in the price of the privacy coin Monero (XMR). Here is how the funds were distributed and the subsequent fallout: * **Monero (XMR) Purchases:** Massive buy orders pushed Monero's price from roughly $330 to $420 (peaking at $438), as the privacy coin's low trading volume makes it highly sensitive to large trades. * **Scattered Transfers:** Over $12 million was sent to the KuCoin exchange, $8 million went to instant swap services, and another $8 million was moved across the Bitcoin and Ethereum networks via Near Intents. * **The Freeze:** Tether intervened and blacklisted an address tied to the entity, successfully **freezing 72 million USDT** before it could be moved or cashed out. While the original source of the $120 million remains unknown, the rapid use of privacy coins, instant swaps, and cross-chain hopping heavily mirrors classic crypto money-laundering tactics.

syKonaut

XMR #1

radiationholder

its not there yet. in the coming years, ETH, HBAR, XMR, and BTC are different types of coins that do very different things. Right now even though these are, technology wise, very different coins, pricewise they are very correlated in that they are generally following BTC. The bear market is determined by BTC. The bull market you can have different performance levels for all alts, even different performance levels (but all bad) during the bear market as well.

Serenaded

Inflation going up is probably what is sending XMR up this week

Previous_Valuable873

Hyperliquid will be nowhere when XMR will still be around... Same goes to ZCASH. Enjoy your 15 minutes both 😄

Previous_Valuable873

Smiling in XMR. I made 2 good choices regarding crypto ever, out of 4 calls. First one was, to mine btc and LTC in 2013 with 7970's 16 of them. I accumulated 2 btc and 500 ltc, which i cashed out at the local top 1500 on mtgox, 2 weeks before they collapsed. Then said I'll never touch crypto again. Fastforward 2020, where I noticed everybody buying crypto is thinking they are buying XMR, while they are not. Non fungible, traceable, transparent assets galore, which meant for me from that point btc, eth, anything was a shitcoin, but xmr. Started stacking around 150, then binance delisting to 90, all the way stacking, all my friends pay me in xmr, i pay them in xmr, my visa card is xmr backed, life is good really. Whoever is still believing any other coin is worthwile to keep is in for a bit of a surprise the next 2-3 years... I once said XMR will be 5k sooner than ETH ever again, OR that btc will definitely not reach the inflation adjusted 120k ever again (which would be around 150 by now and is getting even farther...) I dont mind if the crypto space shrinks to 1T, with 4 coins having any significant marketcap....

poginmydog

Owning cryptocurrency isn’t illegal in China. Buying, selling, trading is illegal. Mining at small scale is legal as well, meaning small amounts of XMR mining on your home PC is perfectly fine. The ownership and possession of cryptocurrency in China is perfectly legal and they are viewed as property.

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Realistic_Fee_00001

> use as a currency is laughable This is actually the first and still the most relevant use case. In this crazy corrupted world a sound p2p monetary system would be a breath of fresh air. Which is exactly the reason why BTC got crippled and took the whole space with it. But the genie is out of the bottle. XMR or BCH will take that torch to the finish line so people can enjoy better money.

mellowanon

unfortunately, XMR market cap is too little for large nations to use.

teknic111

XMR does that better.

Previous_Valuable873

Number 2 is totally not true, everyone kinda thought they are buying XMR when using BTC for that....

Icy_Start_1653

XMR is the king!

TheDookieboi

All of those are valued in dollars. Not XMR. Not ZEC. If you’re looking to make purchases of those things you need dollars.

Previous_Valuable873

I am doing extremely well with XMR thank you. Actually the only true fungible cash like crypto, what everyone thought BTC is when hearing about crypto. Zcash you say? Come on, you see how rugged it is...

Previous_Valuable873

Smiling in XMR

op-owl

1 BTC is not equal to 1 BTC. AML makes sure that there are clean coins and dirty coins 1 XMR = 1 XMR though

Blade_Runner_69

XMR is down 12% because of market liquidity and general bear market conditions, ZioCash crashed 53% in the last few weeks because of manipulation and now weak fundamentals that have been exploited. They are not the same.

Honest_Country_525

And XMR crashed 12% in sympathy when it should be rising because of weakness in a competitor.

Realistic_Fee_00001

It's pumped as controlled opposition. Todd was there at the beginning . Same with BTC vs BCH. Use the untainted OGs XMR and BCH.

CounterAdmirable4218

The winner of the privacy coin battle won’t be ZEC. Nor will it be XMR. It will be Litecoin with optional privacy.

Choice_Potato_6279

Historically this sub is always wrong on alts so probably XMR will flop.

EndSmugnorance

Are you still holding XMR or nah

Serenaded

Hence why I just sold ZEC 3 days ago for XMR. XMR is clearly the only one in use for its usecase. ZEC's run is exhausted.

Serenaded

\>A bug was discovered that had been dormant for years and could in theory allow someone to mint ZEC in the shielded pool Literally everyone was saying this when it was pumping that it's shady AF and has backdoors. XMR was always the only one. ZEC is for the greedy and foolish. All these bagholders deserve it. This basically officially means XMR won the head to head. ZEC might be dumping now, XMR is going to pump out of this as it's now the undisputed king of darkfi.

PonkeSolWhalePro

ZEC non ha fondamenta vere come XMR

0fWhomIAmChief

Damn, Ai's wrecking ZEC? So much for being an actual contender with XMR 

anymonero

I'm comfy holding XMR

Previous_Valuable873

What a day to be alive, XMR is flipping ADA 😃

HeftyImprovement3847

And everyone I told mknths ago that XMR will be 5k sooner than ETH ever again, doubted me. So far on track lulz

Serenaded

It's funny af how basically the entire internet agrees that XMR is the way to go and no one is ever going to use ZEC for its actual usecase as long as XMR exists.

VollcommNCS

Zec privacy is currently better than XMR. They do not have government back doors. Whatever you monero people have to say to convince yourselves, that's fine. XMR is cool and was necessary for privacy to evolve, but some of the community members are just full of themselves.

Normal-Spell5339

XMR is actively de anonymized by Moonlight Research and ChainAnalysis. Through malicious light nodes and other means. XMR is no silver bullet and frankly because it’s used more it’s likely subverted more

Adventurous-Status38

FUD all you want. ZEC is making holders rich and XMR holders poor lol

Normal-Spell5339

That’s a silly take. If they were backdooring it they wouldn’t do a press release about it. All this means is making it so that you can show the origins of funds if you want, just like you can with XMR, they ship that feature with the core wallet to “prove”transactions if you choose to. It’s the same functionality in both XMR and ZEC. Google moonlight research if you want to see devs corrupting the privacy of XMR.

Normal-Spell5339

If you transact in XMR it is transparent at the ends. The entity sending you XMR knows where it went and the receiver knows where they received it from. If you buy it from Kraken or a swap site they know X address bought Y amount. Similarly wherever it’s offloaded knows the address sending to it and the transaction it’s involved in and the amount. But if the amounts aren’t exactly the same and you make use of the shielded pool at some point you have anonymity. With the coming CARROT upgrade there will be transparent pools in XMR just like ZEC. This facilitates defi swaps like actual ones not the jankey ass Haveno stuff. That’s the main use of transparent pools in ZEC, for DeFi. That’s probs why its price has been going crazy, it’s like XMR but easier to obtain. You don’t have to find an exchange that lists it you can just bridge to it.

Normal-Spell5339

What back door? Won’t it be on the same level of privacy once they implement CARROT in XMR? Transparent and non transparent pools so you can have anonymity AND bridge-Ability? And XMR will catch up in terms of privacy and be on equal footing with the ZEC once they implement FCMP++. You’ll upgrade from rings to the entire chain is your privacy ring. A lot of people have not really researched these things before forming an opinion

Blade_Runner_69

Stay well away from zcash it was created by Zionists from unit 8200. Avoid like the plague. It is manipulated to high heaven. XMR is way superior.

NightKnight_CZ

The beggining of dynocoins comeback Litecoin, XRP, XMR, XLM.... but Litecoin will be the winner, because it is the oldest Proof of Work altcoin to exist