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InsightKnite

It's almost like the governments of the world have zero claim of ownership rights to cryptocurrency? Whoda thunk it lol. Imagine the USA telling China what it can and can't do with Yuan via regulatory policy. This is basically what you all are allowing to happen when you champion market regulation of crypto. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

saltytrader_

Lol Europeans don’t clap back that hard like you do about Murica matters!!!! Global liquidity is in the markets not just USA uSA UsA… Anyway, no delayed jobs report could be remotely bad enough to cause this kind of a dump. Reality of the situation my guuuuy

LooseSpot4597

I sold all my holdings a few weeks ago ($1.3 mil worth, I am in my mid twenties in UK where it is far harder to get rich than USA as well). No regrets and sold based on the logic of halving cycle, general fear in overall market and the fact we'd just had a massive bull. I'm waiting for a year when I'm hoping to join the 21 club or higher based on pessimistic estimates with halvings. I don't see any convincing arguments why the halving cycle isn't going to be true this time and if I'm wrong and it shoots up a load more then that's not too bad as well since it means we'll have some more years of ridiculous gains. As always the people who will get fucked over are those who panic sell when it actually crashes and those who sold far too early. Even if you time it badly and just wait you will be ok, I have no doubt bitcoin will continue to succeed LONG TERM but the time to buy is when it's crashed, forgotten and everyone is saying it's dead not near the ATH after a massive bull run.

Head-End-5909

That may be ideal timing for jumping back in. Welcome back to the USA!

satoshi-station

That there one on amazon is chinese low quality junk. Probably easy to bend too, I have witnessed some "titanium" on amazon get bent with ease. Look at the customer pictures, they can't even have uniform sizes, but it says 100mm x 100mm. The TA2/GR2 they spec out is the chinese standard for grading. What Satoshi Station is selling, is a US product start to finish. Forged in the USA, rolled, and waterjet cut to blueprint specs which happen to be the same dimensions as a standard credit card, and 1mm thick. It's tolerances are +/- less than 1% and upon my precision measurement inspection, they are all dead nuts accurate. The US standard is ASTM B265. Furthermore, you have the option to pay in bitcoin at satoshistation. I sometimes wondered why very inexpensive deals, broke shortly after purchase, then a wise man once told me, you get what you pay for. 'MURICA!!!

DeeDzs

Basically all his points boil down to: I trust the USA government and I trust in fiat USD. Read everything on this page and this website. It'll take you a while. [https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/getting-started.html](https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/getting-started.html) If you are actually serious and want to learn buy some books as well. Bitcoin standard - [Saifedean Ammous](https://www.amazon.com/Saifedean-Ammous/e/B07CHGCFNH/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1) Broken money - Lyn Alden Moral money - Eric Sammons [https://aantonop.com/](https://aantonop.com/) \- everything this man says. check his you tube channel too. I would suggest an immediate 10% allocation. Study bitcoin for 100 hours, then think about it again. If you still like it add up to 50% allocation while still contributing to traditional investments. I'm 95% in Bitcoin.

originalrocket

Why is the markets down? Why is bitcoin down? WAR bitches! USA is going to war... again. Thanks president of peace magats! Groceries, magnents.... fucking retards.

Lord_Alamar

I know the studies you are referring to. Finland/Denmark are actually at the top of the list. I've spent significant amounts of time and have a lot of exposure to all three countries. The general population of America is much more intensely happy (as a direct result of much greater personal wealth, let's face it). What drags the USA down that list is the lack of safety net. The poor are *much* better taken care of in other developed nations, which greatly impacts the happiness index.

Spidi_Bomba

No, because USA is not the center of universe...

Critical-Chemist-860

As long as you dont live in the USA this is fine

namieorange

Will USA sell the pumpz? Considering it's their own fking gov shutdown ending??

markr9977

It's going to be another rescission when AI stocks crash. Sam Altman thinks we are going to bail out tech companies in order to save the economy because everyone's 401k is like 25% AI stocks now. Cash will go up in the short term because everyone is losing their jobs and selling assets for cash. Then after the USA prints a ton of cash and gives it to Sam Altman, he will spend the cash and bitcoin will go back up.

GettingFasterDude

Long term capital gains tax of 0% after 1 year is great. In USA it's 0%, 15% or 20% (depending on income) even after 1 year (up to 37% prior to one year; whatever your tax rate is). Regarding borrowing, I'm open to the idea, but skeptical. I agree with Michael Saylor, that the extent to which you borrow against your bitcoin, is the extent to which you risk losing your bitcoin. A LTV of <30% is probably okay, but even so, the less the better. Personally, I don't want to have to borrow from anyone in retirement, if I don't have to. That's true freedom. But I'm not there yet. I have at least 10-15 years to go.

Top_Sympathy_5675

Trump make everything expensive so they get less money from the USA. We bring demands up for our people in America. The tariffs is all from profits.

jorchjorch

I am buying in goldfishgold through the profits, a project in blockchain, backed in gold, USA compliance and you can have physical redemption. Interesting project.

Reasonable-Alps8577

USA?

Lord_Alamar

Not if the USA has anything to say about I. (They *do*)

Beneficial_Poet_7983

**Bitcoin** * Easier to store, no need to insure it. * Tight spreads * Volatility, if you want to trade it * No underlying asset. **Gold** * Expensive to store and insure * Wide spreads. * Tax free if a currency like UK Brittanias, or Sovereigns (this may not apply in the USA, etc) * Well it's Gold, it has uses in Jewellery and Electronics. **Both can be held in ETFs (which avoids storage/insurance and minimises spreads for gold).**

xansabar

SMT if tokenized stocks become available in the USA

Legitimate_Cry_5194

Aim for 40% if you want to be sure to not miss the bear market train. 50% to go for much better profits with a slight risk of missing the train. 60% drop, you really risk of missing it. 70% is highly unlikely, but it can end up with such a retracement, but only if something very huge happens in the world, pandemic, USA defaulting, Nato-Russia or Nato-China war etc. I'm aiming for a 50% drop. From ETH deduct 10% from BTC's targets. 60%, 70%, 80%. I strongly advise you to not invest in ETH at all though, only in BTC.

peep_squasher

Go Hacker Team USA

bitusher

> Your use of most implies majority. Would love to see what stats you used. I also used the word "and" which includes either gambling or drugs ... but even if we just included drugs alone stats reflect around 50% illegal drug use as marijuana was illegal up until recently in countries like the USA and still remains illegal in certain places of that country. These stats are also **under-represented** as they come from surveys where many people will not admit to illegal activity.

madmancryptokilla

Fucking China didn't want anything to do with crypto banned it..Now that USA has a shit ton of it they want in

Independent-Box-451

Lol . Almost all the crypto scams that go on through signal Facebook app. set up shop in hong kong. Talk about theft, not to mention china steals USA intellectual property. That thief doesn't even come close to this amount of bitcoin. If we stoled it we need to do better next time and steal, 50x more. Also, wouldn't believe a damn thing China says.

kwinten92

No time with the USA government shutdown?

DryMyBottom

accusing each other for everything is all USA and China know how to do, apparently 

FinancePorn

He needs to keep away from anything ECONOMIC & HEALTH, he will kill and rob 10's of million of Americans, which is ascension plan to turn the USA into a Dynastic Monarchy, with his dum dum kids, being in power forever.. he will steal as much of the treasury as he can to accomplish this. Its exactly the putin playbook.. to gut the middle class financially, then make them sick, and they will die off and leave the wealth to the monarch..OR he will have to do like his friends , start with mass arrests, and then mass murder. He has no idea how vulnerable crypto is ...I made and ICO, it took 8 guys 6 months to build it. WE canceled it do to jurisdiction. DONT BE FOOLED - 1) Etherum Netowork for example.. is crushed and cant process smart contracts without massive data pipes. IT took 2 weeks to submit, means that its way ove capacity and impossible to grow the ALT coin scene.. thus solana et al, which is another barrel of monkeys, with those 50k SOL requirements to be a node.. now those guys are billionaires, who can turn those networks off. 2) There are so many whales that can flip, you never know and thjere is nop logic behind the "CATASTROPHIC RUG PULL" which would be on the Network, put it this way, I think that if anyone put 100k bitcoin on the bid, it would crush the market at these prices. 3) now with many sovereign nations and investment funds.. they became too big to fail. If those entities back out, the marklets will implode. 4) Parasitic effect on USD, it will suck the M2 and most of the M1 out of our economy, there will be no way to control our money supply because we dont own the BCH network. LKet alone all the altcoin networks. Then theres thisw: I got honey potted and watched as they disabled my bio-metric security added, took my phone over with a VPN tunnel, and sen to thier binance account $35,000 +/- USDT. Nothing about crypto is goopd especially strategic decisions about our entire country. Mr. President.... C'mon.. go play golf and continue your hedonism, and leave us alone!

Lord_Alamar

Crypto is well and truly over. The USA has comprehensively won

Kind_Cheetah_1289

USA Markets are open now. They are a bunch of CRAZY KIDS. Will go up again!

Lord_Alamar

The *very moment* US markets open: dump crypto and stuff the proceeds into US stocks. Every single fucking day! Sometimes I fantasize about the day when the USA gets wadded up and casually tossed into the garbage

IllConsideration6000

You could be right, however since it seems to correlate with the USA's $29 billion drop in tourism revenue in 2025, I'm inclined to think it has value as a financial indicator.

YogurtCloset3335

But he also paid the largest civil fine on a person in the entire history of the USA

jaraxel_arabani

Many things in north America is crazy... Even more so in USA. Even many things like diary Canada is like nope... If you know what they consider acceptable level of bacteria or pus in the milk in USA you'd be appalled

Mattbuc2331

Guys! Whats the best app to use without US govt & bank fees! Don't say Kraken or Strike cuz i used both and still got raped by USA.

DarkandBoring

And USA would have to give back billions if not trillions of dollars? Dont underestimate the greed of america.... going against this is like saying all the politicians will vote for the stock regime making it illegal for them to trade in the market... just saying.....

veldmaarschalkje

Lucky me who lives in Europe and wants to go to the USA (satire)

Full-Sound-6269

That man is expert in inflation generation, his first term with covid reaction and now with causing a crisis with tariffs and trying to fix it with paying out money. I mean, if he does this to destroy USA, that is the right way.

flipyflop9

Only some third world countries respect USA, and that’s because they want money… The rest of the world is laughing, while some still try to maintain decent relations even if the whole administration feels like straight out of the Idiocracy movie. The situation just a couple of years ago was very different. They managed to destroy decades of trust in months, and that will take again years to build back.

5pairs

1. I can already use my pay to buy Bitcoin. 2. No, it gives me less control and the company the chance to pay me less. Yes to more innovative because they’re doing something somewhat new. 3. Less likely since someone would be doing it for me. 4. Positive because it’s basically a retirement fund that I can access immediately. Negative if I get paid so little that the withdrawal fee is too much. There’s also the problem of places not accepting Bitcoin as payment. 5. Yes if they’re staying at the company for a substantial amount of time, no if they’re already buying crypto. It could also scare off certain employees. 6. I can’t think of downsides besides the fact that I may be paid less. 7. Confusing and unnecessary. 8. 19, couch-surfing, USA. 9. No, I doubt they’d go through the trouble of lobbying for a tax write-off. If I can withdraw my Bitcoin thru them, not so much. If they get to time payments, no. It could work, I just haven’t seen it in practice so I don’t know if I should trust it. There’s ways for it to be beneficial for both employer and employee, but it’d have to be a larger company, even one with footholds in multiple industries, be able to convert Bitcoin to cash through them (when I want to), a cash option, and if they leverage my money for whatever, I’d want part of those profits for me to consider taking the option myself. Too much potential for me to not be paid properly.

enceladus007

USA debt is now $38 Trillion!

JCrypDoe

Then neither is money? Citizens United vs. FEC (MAIN reason USA got F-ck3d)

ScatMonkeyPro

Because the USA and China both know Bitcoin is going to destroy their fiat currencies, and they are frantically building out new financial systems based on blockchain. Whoever wins this race will end up the dominant superpower. Whichever country owns and controls the most Bitcoin will have the best shot at this. This is also the reason both countries are frantically competing in AI and Quantum. These two technologies go hand in hand with blockchain technology.

Relevant-Rhubarb-849

1. It's not Germaine to speak in terms of anything but net present value. 2. That's not how money is issued in the USA atleast. For the most part every dollar issued by the Fed is backed by a treasury bond. So you can't erase money without erasing someone else's asset

GettingFasterDude

If in USA, River is great. Strike is excellent also and is worldwide. Avoid Coinbase and Kraken. They've gotten so big they're physically unable to offer any customer service when their AI account monitoring freezes your account or withdrawals arbitrarily. You'll wait week or months for your money or bitcoin, if you ever get it back. If you insist on a mega-huge exchange, Gemini is much better than Kraken or God forbid, the shtt-coin casino that is Coinbase. After buying on River or Strike, get your bitcoin to cold storage (hard wallet by Trezor, Coldcard, or other) after you've accumulated 0.01 bitcoin or more.

snefda

u/Merlins_Owl weisst du schon was mehr ? eine Freundin von mir aus den USA versucht es mir dauernd schmackhaft zu machen und für mich klingt es wie ein Schneeballsystem - angeblich gehört es allen usern also dezentralisiertes Eigentum aber ich versteh es nicht so richtig und wieso kann jeder damit mehr Geld verdienen als es kostet, es muss ja das Geld irgendwoher kommen

BakiSaitama

I was thinking alt season would start maybe January/February. Didn’t expect others to think it would start this soon also adding the current USA government shutdown. Is there a reason why you’re also inclined to think it’s coming this month?

road22

Show proof of reserves of STRATEGY and many will buy. The whole idea behind BTC was transparency in trust. The USA does not show reserves in Ft Knox because there is no gold there.

Nelsonsrightknacker

You didn't find the reason ? Are you a troll? USA Gov. shut down has clogged the money flow. Little restrictions in flow can have a big effect. Ask a stroke victim.

Master-Monitor112

Yes the uk is now worse than USA for crypto. I always thought the uk would be crypto friendly. I think this is kier stamers doing. Thanks for the heads up.

2poor2die

I live in EU and I fking hate it here when it comes to privacy and common sense. These retards ruined the continent, we are flooded with immigrants and they wanna ban ban ban, regulate regulate regulate. We stand no chance for what's to come. It was USA, EU, now its USA & China. EU is bottom of the barrel and they have no fking clue how stupid they are with their fking ideologies. We have no company that can compete with anyone, in any industry... Eh... Sorry I had to rant.

Always_working_hardd

Another case of never do business with friends or family, sorry to say. I gave my brother money to buy a house in his name, for me, 20 years ago. He still has the house and as far as he's concerned, we never had a deal. The only thing I can think of with respect to fees are the exchange (if it's sold on Uphold for example), there are fees. Guessing 1%? Maybe your FIL has his own 'schedule of fees' for the transaction. Bear in mind, if it's in FIL's account and he sells for a profit, in the USA that's going to trigger a tax event that FIL (ultimately hubby) is responsible for.

KingPettyx

Has anyone noticed you get shadow banned if you use the president of the USA’s name?

Todo_es

Worldwide stock markets are dropping sharply over record-breaking USA government shutdown and the havoc that is causing to the economy. Weirdly, also the Dollar Index (DXY) is going down. While Bitcoin, Gold and long-term Treasury Notes are rising. People are fleeing towards safety, to perceived sound money (we know that only Bitcoin really fits that title).

archowup

Yes there were problems. The USA in the late 19th century for example.

Large_Ad1151

Yes exactly. If USA goes to recession it will whole world follow. It's everything connected. Im from Europe and I don't understand why so many people here want USA collapse. It will often hit the poorest countries much harder.

Potential_Duty9709

I’m buying on the dip as usual . Most of the sell off is coming from more and more people being laid off and whom didn’t have the money to be investing in money because once a rainy day came they had not the money to afford a umbrella so now they have to sell their Bitcoin to get one . I’m still to my DCA Moto, once USA government reopens bulls all day

DA2710

Have taken loans from Arch: incredible customer service and support. Custody with a real bank in the USA. Rates… high 11.5 for bigger loans and higher for smaller. About as “safe” as it gets. A little slow as everything is ultimately blessed by a person before it goes through. Strike: very easy to use. Rates around 11.5 to 12 no complaints have a few with them Lava: just used the LOC. 5+2 rate. Incredibly easy to use and dollars available immediately. Custody… a bit opaque

LSeww

Oh so you think that in Evil USA they would collect something like 1-2k taxes in this case? And you felt the need to correct me on that? Piss off.

Proof-Elephant-4611

You obviously don't like being corrected and like to think you know it all. Nobody knows everything. Here's something to consider, Canada, USA and western Europe make up only at best 8% of the entire world's population, while China and India make up about 35%. You claim you didn't read what else I wrote about RWAs, adoption and incoming regulations which will allow more government and institutional investing. Trillions and trillions are coming. The current crypto market cap is equal in value to only ONE stock now and that stock isn't even the most valuable. Lol. TL;DR You should be more willing to learn about things you don't know, especially when posting on social media.

GrumpyScroogy

Cute and horribly wrong. Its recession time now for USA and crypto will once again go -80%. Tech/AI - 60%

diradder

> robbing investors blind through his family's crypto ventures, rugpulls and scams. I hate Trump as much as you probably, but people who voluntarily enter these scams get no sympathy from me (the gamblers and the cultists). The real issue with these tokens is that they serve Trump and his crime family to get donations/campaign contributions/pay-for-play (in other words bribes) from all around the world, in clear breach of the Constitution regarding foreign influences. Trump runs the most corrupt administration that ever existed in the USA.

Effective-Simple9420

The UK? king George? We are the great USA, the worlds richest country that everyone must worship, including you red coats. We created all our political institutions from scratch and have the best government in the world under our Fuehrer Trump.

WorkN-2play

Right, my question too!! Its totally possible if Trumps sons start loosing big on their crypto ventures all of a sudden Trump will say "USA now will buy 1 million BTC It is a good deal!!" Lol.... then boom 💥 crypto euphoria but 2025 was a waste of a year for me 😆 all gains given back right now....

InsightKnite

Maybe if USA did not talk shit about international entities on public television then you won't need all of this "security" that is talked about daily? State taxes can exist without PAYING the government servants a salary larger than the average american. and yes ... the original design it was your neighbor. It was called a militia. Now you have private thugs offering security with your back to a wall.

redhotrobbie

Printing money is another tax. You need to pay taxes and you need to pay more through inflation. There should not be inflation. Prices should come down like computer chips etc with technology. Inflation is a tax but people don't realize it. So it's used a lot more by government. But they need a lot more money so tax as well. Inflation is also regressive tax, so direct tax of earnings etc is highly flawed but a much more progressive taxation. There doesn't need to be inflation or taxation, it was only invented in USA in late 1800s but people today lose it if the government tries to cut it's spending

YogurtCloset3335

Lol so you literally know nothing about USA crypto regulations over the last 10 years? There are people literally in jail for writing code when the wrong guys were in charge, who have all been fired. I could give a fuck about Trump, the point is he was paid to clear the path for crypto and he actually did it. And yes he did help himself to a bunch of shitcoin profits and only an idiot would say that's a good thing. But srsly educate yourself man you really know jack shit about crypto regulations.

RandomJoe7

"Contact" doesn't mean "having owned" it. Either way, that stat of 10% (btw I've also seen up to 20% stated), is copium at best. The world-wide % doesn't really matter when the majority of the world is too poor to invest into something in the first place. And using crypto as payment doesn't affect it's value much, because it's just a means of transfer and gets cashed out again on the other side. The reason it's copium? If you're from the western world (USA, Europe etc...) that has disposable income to invest: go ask anyone about crypto, EVERYONE has at minimum heard about it. It's literally in the news headlines of major papers every day. I don't know a single person that doesn't know what crypto is (other than maybe 80 year olds). So 1) everyone knows about it. 2) Many have either owned it themselves, or have an immediate family member that has owned some. And if 2 isnt the case, then they've talked about it at their last christmas party with colleagues or whatever. And guess what, the absolute majority of these people have a negative opinion of crypto, due to the last decades of scams, rug pulls, losing money, the "gambling" nature of it, etc. So far, crypto has basically solved zero technological problems, has invented nothing that the world ACTUALLY needs, etc. And this is coming from me, who held a Top 5 Alt coin since 2017 because I believed in it so much, thought it would be a "revolutionary technology", etc. I held that coin all the way to a few weeks ago and lost 90% on it. I'm glad this time I actually sold my BTC/ETH that I bought during the bear market and was able to make good profit and recuperate my "hopium/copium" losses. What am I trying to say with all of this? There isnt going to be this magical moment where all of a sudden "90% of the world who've not owned crypto" start buying crypto and crypto 10x's because of it. The market is already huge (trillions), from here on out, there will be much slower growth, we won't see old cycle booms again (outside of individual meme coins that of course can moon).

_FIRECRACKER_JINX

The largest federal employer in the USA hasn't paid its employees in over a month. This week, was the first week of November. In the first week of the month, a lot of large bills are typically due. Rent, mortgage, bills, car notes, loans, etc. etc. When people who work for the largest employer didn't receive any paychecks for over a month, they started selling the things they owned in order to feed their children and pay their bills. So they started selling off Cryptos, stocks, etc. etc.

NoStress42069

Well if you look at a coin.. let’s say it’s $3 per and makes 7% yield which is good so you put money into it .. then it drops to $2 The gains are erased Ask an AI which USDC staking is best for you in your country USDC should remain stable unless the USA collapses which is possible

jeremiahcp

If crypto is about scamming working-class people out of money, then yes, the USA is the crypto capital of the world.

Interesting-Cow-1652

If you want to make the USA the crypto capital of the world, print as many dollars as you can Donny. My bags need to PUMP.

BaadMike

It's kind of like hoarding 90% silver pre-1965 quarters and dimes back in 1965. A 90% silver dime now has the purchasing power of $3.42 and a 90% silver quarter now has the purchasing power of $8.57. Bitcoin will be similar 5, 10, 15, 20 or 50 years from now. It may not make you "rich" like most investors want, but it should definitely hold you purchasing power, and we all know the USA (and many other countries) are going to print away their debts.

Third_War

I have question ,if USA want to use crypto to devalue debt is it **good** or bad for crypto ? and explain how please 😅

imliqys

Yes, I totally agree with this opinion, every decision taken by GVT USA must have been in the scenario of selling when it is high and buying when it is down. selling now is not wise, just become a diamond hand. And this time the market has a lot of predictions based on analysis and it was all thwarted by the tweets of a president. Now just still waiting to confirm weekley chart

RandomJoe7

IMO that stat is a bit misleading/hopium/copium. In the richer countries (USA, Europe, etc...), pretty much everyone knows about Crypto. They have either dealt with crypto themselves, know someone directly in their family who has, or have negatively talked about it at the latest christmas party. I literally do not know anybody who hasn't had any exposure to crypto. I'm sure those people do exist, but it will be 1) really old people who won't get into it anymore anyways or 2) in poor countries that does not have significant wealth to put into crypto, thus not making any meaningful impact anytime soon. In the next decades? Maybe... but until then, a lot of other things can change as well.

Longjumping_Ad_6446

USA right? 🤣

Lixalottapus69

Until the price of Bitcoin retraces to 60k and all these countries who have been “talking” about Strategic Bitcoin Reserve funds actually start buying BTC and Russia ain’t gonna let USA or Russia have all the BTC and vice versa and you will see an explosion of main stream adoption with prices higher than you can image…. Aside from that, your probably right…

You_Cards

Reminds me of this video I watched earlier. Shouldn’t someone be positive if every country is in debt? If each country can print money, and we don’t know how much exactly, how can we know the value of anything? Whats to stop the USA from printing dollars to buy up mining power to control bitcoin or any coin? https://youtu.be/qOCJH7Rdyn4?si=P-_RXdltxpRGyrXD

formerFAIhope

World wars, or multi-alliance international wars, happen when the countries start believing that they have a legitimate reason and opportunity to win. Currently, none of the major powers: USA, China, EU, would ever in their right minds, want a world war or even a drawn-out international war dragging multiple, economically-relevant countries in it. The only time there have been serious hit to the economy in just last 2-3 decades, it's because of financial crises, not the geopolitical tensions. Yes, not even the 2022 Ukraine war, which was serendipitous with the consequence of literal trillions in QE and Covid paycheck-induced inflation, on top of supply-chain constraints that were a direct result of Covid. I know, I know: it feels really "dramatic" and movie-like, when you declare every year how we are heading for, "TOTAL ANNIHILATION!! WORLD WAR 3 INCOMING, THIS IS IT, TIME TO GET IN A BUNKER AND DRINK MY URINE!!!11!!" or whatever fantasy you all jerk yourself to. Reality is way more complicated, messy, nuanced than total all out war whenever it fits your personal narratives. Russia is invading Ukraine, because Putin *needs* to create a crisis to distract his public. America (with help of their western allies) supports proxy wars in other countries, because they know the opposing side is sometimes fighting with literal stick and stones (ie no *real* loss for American allies) and American politicians can exaggerate that to justify giving trillions to their military industrial overlords (and get billions in kickbacks). War has become a business through and through. Capitalism has found a way to absorb any "revolution" in its folds and make profits out of it. Modern, global bureaucracy is not some stagnant relic of the past. It's an ever-learning, ever-growing system swallowing billions across the world. An all-out, global war will be worst outcome *for everyone*, not just the enemy. BTC and crypto generally is falling because there's simply not enough liquidity to go around. Whatever the cartels, smuglers, "muh covert operations" were using back in the day (assuming how true this batshit insane conspiracy non-sense is), was barely anything to leave a dent on the overall supply. Bitcoin really took off around 2016, when Vitalik and co introduced new approaches to harnessing the potential of Blockchain network. THAT is when early smart money moved in and drove the prices up. Because the tech finally seemed useful for "the middle men", the very layers that Bitcoin was promising to erase (a whole another nuanced topic, but the present one is already too much for some of you, I can tell). Then the Feds loosened monetary policy further and a considerable majority of western population was flush with cash, including the VCs. That allowed a concerted push up. And not surprisingly, with each *economic* setback came the crashes in crypto/Bitcoin. Not because your little cryptobro community is some "force of nature" that can only be set back by something just as massive, like world wars or whatever morbid fantasies you kids have. Now, we are living in the consequences of that era, with inflated bubbles everywhere, trillions sitting in funds waiting to be deployed, and central banks barely able to maintain a decent monetary policy because on one hand inflation is still sticky and on the other bubbles are at valuations that make no fucking sense. Then there's the govt shutdown in America and banks at lowest reserves while repo pumping out tens of billions every day. Too complicated, right? So much better to just keep spouting the same quasi-conspiracy slop that gets vomitted in crypto circles every other month, while you all jerk each other off at how "smart" you all are, the only people who "see through it all!!!11!11"

BoringPrinciple2542

Thanks for illustrating my point. You are not an American yet you are so obsessed with the USA that you feel the need to argue about your opinions rather than the facts at hand. Perhaps it is because your nation hasn’t been relevant to the world stage since raiding Lindisfarne or maybe it’s because your entire national population is smaller than a mid-tier American city. The silliness of watching a Norwegian get his panties in a wad over the politics of another nation demonstrates what I mean perfectly. I could spend all the time in the world arguing with you but at the end of the day I’d accomplish nothing but wasting time. At the end of the day, your fragile emotiona have no impact on the market so I ignore them and focus on reality. Feel better?

Suspicious-Holiday42

The USA

_FIRECRACKER_JINX

The largest employer in the USA is not paying its employees. Those employees own stocks, crypto, assets. They've been without paychecks for over a month now, and when bills are due, assets are sold to pay for stuff and put food on the table. The first to go will be Cryptos, stocks, and then they'll take out loans. That employer is the federal government by the way.

joshua0005

So you should assume everything is USA? Lol the arrogance

RandomJoe7

Sure, you're not wrong, but most people in western countries with disposable money (USA, Europe, etc...) have had contact with crypto. They've either invested themselves at some point, know someone who invested, or talked about it at their latest Christmas party, hearing about how others "got scammed/rugged/etc". Crypto, in general in these western countries, doesn't have the best reputation.

Lixalottapus69

Oh, so you enjoy getting bent over by China. It’s time China bent over for the USA. We are #1 and we need to start acting like it.

quacks4hacks

I'm not from the USA either but Trump's run 2 significant rug pulls and is using his personal coin to launder brides at a global level. He's killed crypto for a huge amount of people one way or another

WanZed11

i am talking about peak greed my brother.... President of USA or the supposed to be the "The Crypto President" launching a memecoin... What could top that? I am seeing a lot of people dismissing the memeseason that goes on for like 6 month... Elon could change his tweet handle and a memecoin goes to 500-600 million overnight.. Thats 6 month was where normies got overboad and rinse... They aint coming back.. So whose money are those "market maker" gonna dump on now... Normies that was supposed to be the EL to the market maker for this cycle already came and left... They move on to another type of gambling. Kalshi.. Kalshi already made billions on basketball and its not even a quarter of NBA season now...

WanZed11

i dont know man... Presidents of USA and Argentina launching a memecoin really looks likes peak greed for me... You cant go higher than that...

VinnyVanJones

The USA government end.

Dazzling_Marzipan474

The problem with shit like this is it's a foot in the door. It starts at the rich and 1% then in arcade it's over $100,000 and 15%. Look how income tax started in the USA. Same shit. 1% of the top 1%.

pesa44

The USA government shutdown end.

DeathCobro

The only way I see Bitcoin not being $300k after the next halving in 3 years is if the UN, USA, and China all work together to levy an insane tax or make owning Bitcoin completely illegal. It scares me but luckily politicians are terrible at working together

HoldOnDearLife

Normal people know that this game is rigged. They see all the corruption the USA President and his family are doing. Why would anyone want to be in this space? You are just buying the rich people's bags at this point. The evil people have taken over crypto.

TreezFrosty

It will be if they get off their asses and go to work. But there's no jobs? Deport all immigrants and we'll have jobs. The Jeet invasion of the USA will end. 

namieorange

I went to read the transcrips, and it's quite ambiguous, actually. But basically saying China is getting into it but USA has to have the lead. He praised "crypto industry" A LOT and said he and his sons hold. So yeah, whatever the real meaning was, it was overly positive.... and we dump. Insane market

namieorange

Trump LITERALLY said today that China is accumulating Crypto and they cant let The USA fall behind. And we dump!! You can't make this stuff up ffs

bizaroo933

Yeah since that orange buffoon has been chosen by the great USA people it became legal for himself, family, friends and Binance to manipulate the market. Best way to do it is to short as much as possible.

bizaroo933

Was about time, clowns from USA kept selling while Asia and Europe kept pumping the market. USA doesnt deserve Asia to pump to market for them just so can they sell when waking up

Lord_Alamar

It's time to come to terms with the fact that anyone left holding crypto is the greatest fool. The asset class is in the process of folding up shop for the long haul. The USA has won

chasing_daylight

The USA is currently involved in a huge trade war with its partners.