LONG

CwTrucker42069

I think I go short Sunday evening, wait for 2 days, then LONG after that

DepartmentNo9197

You were right when you asked if it was from making trades. Yes, this gentleman appears to have had a LONG position open on BTC. When the price plummeted, he was liquidated. Meaning his BTC holdings determined the price he would be liquidated at plus and cash or other crypto he has. He was honestly in no "real threat" unless something like this happened. And unfortunately, this does happen. This was clear insider trading for the world to see with the Trump post about tariffing China. The timing was too perfect

-Belon-

You compare price points to context they exist in. Unless you are in for a true LONG hold, context change matters to you a lot.

FlagFootballSaint

I give you a hint: There is even more „up and down“ to come: The Trump family buys LONG - the next day Donold announces world peace and that he will remove all tariffs - Crypto immediately shoots UP After that: The Trump family buys SHORT - the next day Donold announces war against (insert random country) and that he will reinstate all tariffs - Crypto immediately crashes DOWN rinse - repeat

Gaia4495

I bought £800 worth last week when it was £96k now it’s £83. I lost £250 overnight. I’m not worried about the dip because that’s what BTC does. I know by Xmas it was be back up and over £100k - which is why I’m in it at all. Buy the ‘dip’. Hodl. DCA. We are not here for a good time - we’re here for a LONG time.

AU-n-Time

It’s just a blip on the Bitcoin radar! All of the unknowns with the economy, US markets, global markets, ongoing tariffs, unresolved China issues, Fed shutdown, and the list goes on. Ignore it, just HODL, doing this will be the easiest and safest money you have ever made. BTC is LONG term, it’s a true investment not some shit coinery, or manipulated investments. Just HODL and watch the fireworks!

VariatCA

Then as soon as they touch the account, word spreads that "ANCIENT WHALE ACCOUNT FINALLY AWAKENS, WHICH HOLDS 95% OF THE REMAINING LONG-LOST SUPPLY!" And the market dumps 99.99% on the news lol

ECore

The tariff war started LONG before Trump and the US was getting completely wrecked before his supposed "war".

Past_Negotiation7248

Not everyone needs to listen to Dave Ramsey. You Definitely need too. Reality: Your gonna have to live below your means for a LONG while to get back where you were...and at 18 that will suck.

DBRiMatt

We are now even further ahead in the future!! My advice. to those peasants stuck in the past. Go LONG!!!

btc_marshmallow_test

I watched it hit $1,000 the first couple times; we've come a LONG way.

CUbuffGuy

So funny people constantly bring this up… we can migrate to quantum safe encryption long long LONG before we are able to crack SHA256. The way encryption schemes work is that it is always trivially easy to increase complexity, while going backwards is always magnitudes of complexity larger. The downside is that it generally slows down whatever process you are running encryption on. By the time we have computers that can break SHA256, we will have more than enough compute to perform well on quantum safe encryption. The methods already exsist, they are just cumbersome in our current age.

BitcoinIsJesus

I stopped listening to ANY predictions, especially the ones that talk as if they KNOW. Everybody is full of either shit or hopium. Do your homework, know that bitcoin can realistically only go up LONG term and ignore all this short term prediction noise.

TurkishBitcoiner

The price is literally at the ATH we were at few months ago and the fear and greed shows 32 = fear, the RSI on the DAILY chart is almost below 30, it's around 30.9 right now and the most bullish two months are on the way with more rate cuts with an expanding M2 money supply. This price, the current sentiment on price is in my opinion in the LONG TERM is VERY VERY BULLISH point to buy. Personally I bought about 3k euro worth of BTC right now, I think we are going up a lot more after this for few more months before a POSSIBLE bear market in which I will continue to DCA.

Fishherr

[Link To Trading View: ](https://www.tradingview.com/x/jjv3rPVw/) Hopefully that makes sense in there. The white lines I drew are the crosses for the Cycle Tops The Notes speak for themselves. Every single time there is a halving, the market corrects roughly 1 year post halving. That's your time to rebid LONG / Add. 50w is Orange (Stay above this, bullish. Retest it at start of bull market, or during the 1 year post halving year dump. 2 weeks below = bear market.) 200w is Blue (Previous Market ATH Crossing Indicator) 300w is Purple (cycle bottoms)

harpocryptes

>Over last 8 years, which is a LONG ASS time in hi-tech, ethbtc price has been 0.048. Which means people have lost like 20% on eth compared to btc if they held on to eth If you chose 9 or 6 years or 4 months, eth is up 100% against btc. See how easy it is to cherry-pick to fit your preconception?

parakite

Over last 8 years, which is a LONG ASS time in hi-tech, ethbtc price has been 0.048. Which means people have lost like 20% on eth compared to btc if they held on to eth ( or did a DCA). So whats the point of all this 'development'? The 'developers' (centralized people) are giving you a hint. The internal name of this 'upgrade' is 'fuck all the eth bagholders' if you haven't gotten the hint. I will stay away.

hawtdiggitydawgg

Yes. But again the network effect. You could buy Meta/facebook stock for $770 with 2B daily active users or you could buy some obscure no name social media company with 20M daily active users for whatever price multiple less than Meta. YES, you might see more growth potential from the smaller no name social media, but unless that other social media company offers something significantly different and better than facebook then will it have the staying power and LONG term growth potential as Meta/Facebook? Tiktok is a great successful example of a small (at one point) company disrupting Meta/facebook with their short form videos and an A+ algorithm that FB didn't offer. However how many 100s to thousands of other social media companies have tried to crack into FBs marketshare unsuccessfully. If you believe that you or others could pick the next crypto assets that eats into bitcoins marketshare based on its tech being a better commodity than bitcoin, then by all means. But Bitcoins tech has never been hacked, is already great and proven itself over 16 years, and will be tough to overseat. Something that just replicates bitcoin won't beat or compete in anyway with bitcoin, it would need to substantially improve upon the tech AND investment thesis. The true investment thesis of Bitcoin is it's capped supply. I encourage you to continue to learn and as it seems you're missing some key points around value. I wish you luck in your investment endeavors. Again i don't mean to be preachy or anti other investments, but I just strongly believe bitcoin is worth spending much more time learning about and analyzing then so quickly dismissing for something "cheaper".

CantaloupeCamper

My neighbor was big into crypto currency ... LONG ago. I assumed he did well as after a while he had no job to speak of and was dong his part supporting his family ... presumably. But then not long ago he vanished, wife isn't talking much (i'm not pushing her), myself and folks around the neighborhood help them out as we can. Duno what happened.

LegendaryJohnny

Idk but BNB is not discussed here enough while its doing LONG term wave. Bnb is my biggest regret on 2017. I had around 15k, I was deciding what to buy. Binance was already well known exchange. BNB was for 1 dollae. I bought shitcoin OMG foe 12.5 dollars and got scammed by japanese scammer and naive Vitalik hyping up this OMG shitcoin. I lost all those money. I think I wouldnt hold BNB for 8 years till 900, I know myself, but I would be probably in much better position in life if I decided to invest in it. Biggest regret. Second biggest was selling 2300 UNIswap tokens for all time low price.

annonnnnn82736

it’s all about readjusting throughout the YEARS this shit isn’t ooo number go up money increase must sell now, it’s more “are trading news indicating confidence in institutions and businesses to guarantee LONG TERM PROFIT if Google staked for 100,000 sol, they wouldn’t unstake at 100,200 so why do you think a 100 dollar increase would be substantial? on top of that lockup periods take THREE DAYS because the market is beyond volatile, it’s SO SENSITIVE that one person unstaking a huge amount (eg google) would literally strip your 1000 eth to 500 eth within seconds please do more research asking questions like this understand structure and environment you’re putting your money in

Bitchinfussincussin

Hopium if you think it’s in the short term. I can see it happening in the LONG TERM

grndslm

I can support the counter-argument... a digital monetary system that requires decisions & voting is a shitty monetary system. It's SUPER cheap to send propaganda thru media and even "social" pipelines. It literally took days to convince people to leave FreeNode, when it was the primary IRC server for a LONG time...

p1ggy_smalls

Bummer. But are you actually surprised? Not even one brain cell spoke up and said, “Hey, STOP. This fucking piece of shit family has a LONG history of scamming people.” No?

3nino

that's a 10x to ATH. that whale is gonna remember the day he bought at 5m for a LONG time

freakythrowaway79

We've got a LONG & COLD ASS WINTER COMING UP. So nope, just my 2 sats. 🤷🏻

magnus_car_ta

Sorry for the LONG wait on this... So, have you ever heard of Alt Season? It's coming up VERY SOON and when it does alt coins are going to get VERY interesting for a short amount of time. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, feel free to message me and I'll explain in some detail. ✌️!

Ahshut

Think of it this way, sp500 has 100 years of stable increase growth, of which beat inflation, bonds, any HYSA, all by a long shot. The SP500 only tracks US companies. The us economy goes boom, all of that is worthless. BTC is based on a GLOBAL scale. A scale so massive all governments of all the world are invested into it. How else did this thing go to 100+k as fast as it did. It has outpaced every single investment by a LONG SHOT even those considered the safest. The world would have to end for BTC to fail, and at that point, what good is money anyway ?

Renowned_Molecule

Closely watching BTC as a “utility maxi of 20 chains” .. Imagine BTC hitting $1,000,000.00 .. As a utility investor… I’d be set for a LONG time. .. z zzzzzZZZZ THE HIGHER BTC GOES, the higher my holdings go.

Drew-Money

Unfortunately, the only way to confirm that we're in a bear market is Bitcoin down over 50% from the highs. We have a LONG way to go

Stoic_hawaiian808

Obviously hold. Especially if you “don’t need the cash right now”. BTC and ETH are the two titans of the crypto world that’s been pumping ALL YEAR LONG. Dude before 2025, BTC was under $100K per/coin and ETH was around $3K per/coin. Now BTC (was at an ATH of $124k) is sitting at $112k/coin and ETH is about to nearly break that $5K threshold. And we’ve still got around 4 more months until 2025 ends. If I was you, the thought of selling wouldn’t be remotely close anytime soon. Like years from now.

TripTryad

They always do. If you go to tradingview and check previous rate cut cycles you will see that when rate cuts are announced, we see a massive spike in alts, and it usually follows with a drop. BTC dominance strangely spikes for that first month or so of the rate cut. Its the exact opposite of what everyone expects. But we always get a spike (like today) at first. Then it dumps.... But what follows that, is a huge extended rise of alts and the erosion of bitcoin dominance over a LONG period. So just, dont fall for the fake out or be shocked if September is super red even considering the rate cut. Just keep stacking, because October through the end of the year is probably where you see the actual true alt season.

Few-Engineering9803

Even if it's legit, who in their wildest dreams would waste an asset that constantly goes up in value over time on random consumer stuff? BTC is not ready to be a currency, not for a LONG time. Store of value though, absolutely.

Gonky69

c'mon drop the big [https://ibb.co/jvwY3N5k](https://ibb.co/jvwY3N5k) so i can RE OPEN ANOTHER 105X LONG FFS

Some-Draft4364

Wallet tracking will, at times. work. Especially Solana wallets. When I say Solana wallets, its a casino game. You will get to know which shitcoin are they buying that you have no idea what the hell is it and betting that it just go up in another few weeks. I do not track whale wallets as I have my own trading preferences. Someone else posted about watching BTC.D, TOTAL and BTCUSDT. I totally agree with that and that is what I watch for the direction of the market. Specifically, I only see BTC.D and USDT.D. ● BTC.D down + USDT.D down → Capital flowing out of BTC dominance and stablecoins, into alts (LONG ALTS). ● BTC.D up + USDT.D down → BTC pulling in dominance while stablecoin dominance drops (people are buying BTC). (LONG BTC) ● BTC.D up + USDT.D up → Panic mode, money flowing into BTC and stables → both BTC and alts usually dump (SHORT ALTS and BTC) ● BTC.D down + USDT.D up → BTC losing dominance, but money is flowing into stables instead of alts → indecision, sideways chop (NO TRADE, CHOP CITY) Do your TA on both BTC.D and USDT.D and see how magically crapto market reacts to those levels. So basically, crapto moves in the same direction with other craptos. The real question is, which crapto will give you that 10%, 20%, 30% (unleveraged) monster move, instead of that 3%, 5%, 7% crap gain (unleveraged). That is where you use \[your alt coin\] vs BTC (eg: POPCAT/BTC) to see how it is behaving relatively to BTC value. The stronger is it relatively to BTC, the better gain it gives. Pop this into your trading view and see what I mean. BYBIT:SPXUSDT.P/BYBIT:BTCUSDT.P vs BYBIT:10000WENUSDT.P/BYBIT:BTCUSDT.P SPX is relatively stronger than WEN. Do some TA on their levels and watch how much difference they bounce (not subjected to manipulation, pump and dump) But in reality, just be grateful with that 3% or 5% gain (unleveraged). Tradfi bros are throwing party with their 50 pips gain, while crapto bros are complaining to POPCAT for only doing 7% (unleveraged). Whale wallet tracking? Maybe not. I'd invest time and effort more on learning technical analysis.

TheAudacityofHopium

The internet was created by DARPA (back then just ARPA), a US government agency, in the 1960s. It took over 30 years for the internet to really develop and gain traction in the 1990s. I would be willing to make a bet that Bitcoin will grow in adoption much faster than the internet did. The internet took a LONG time to 'blow up' as you put it. Bitcoin is objectively going faster.

chrisfraser666

I've been messing with Caffiene Ai beta for the last 24 hours and its really impressive. Opens up fairly complex development and seamless deployment to very non tech savy users. They have always said its about onboarding the next billion users into crypto, this will go a LONG way to help that.

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

After Asia and Europe dumped ALL NIGHT LONG lmao

Sternritter_V

Way back in highschool(2012ish), I impulsively bought some BTC. Only 3 or 4 if memory serves. That PC is LONG dead and recycled, and I really don’t have any recourse to get the info back. Stuff like this is what makes me regret being an idiot lol. Congrats, and may you have many happy years on your farm.

BeachbumfromBrick

Why did Charles Hoskinson quit Etheteum to start his New Osmosis/ADA? Is it because he KNOWS in the long run ADA is better ? Is there something I’m missing about that past occurrence and the start of Osmosis ? He shares it’s far better in long run and scalability than Buterins eth… remember when it was $35 to send $35?!?! They came a LONG WAY! From eth to that Legendary ETH 2… I think we’re CLOSE but eth needs to do away with or cheapen gas ten fold still at the least

Smooth_Talk

There's a way to do it In a Linux OS. I would recommend starting here. https://hashcat.net/forum/thread-8878.html Also backup your wallet.dat file immediately and store it as securely as possible. If you have an idea of what the password might be it can be A LOT easier to crack it, if you have no clue brute forcing it can be impossible or take a LONG amount of time. If you want to try it and dont know anyone with Linux skills it's going to take a lot of research and time. I suggest you do it yourself if possible to avoid having someone take it from you or paying a bounty.

ScatMonkeyPro

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but I cannot provide you the evidence that you desire. USA has developed nuclear reactors the size of a suitcase. One the size of a container is no problem. America has had relatively small reactors running in Navy vessels for over 50 years. That is a LONG time to. be working on tech in the wings. Also, China probably KNOWS that USA invented Bitcoin, which is why they are so hell bent on keeping their people from investing it. Sometimes in life you have to discard all the information presented to you, and look at the BEHAVIOR of the parties involved to arrive at the truth. This is one of those times.

redstormrock

Is there a strong correlation ADA to XRP over LONG periods of time? Hey man, whatever helps you, I do truly hope you will make money using your analysis.

Alone-Professor8581

Thanks for your advice.It's revenge trading 100% , I set it for 5 minutes and as soon as a candle seems ready to explode, I LONG. Completely stupid. We enter when the volume is there, or after breaking a resistance, not by observing candles 

MarketOstrich

I’m buying $10 each day. Wish I had started this a LONG time ago.

created20250523

I know it might not get to you: but don't trade BTC. It's not worth it, and it takes a huge toll emotionally. Also there is a real risk. I know, I've been there. Just buy and hold. If you want to augment that: get tradfi loans that you can service easily and invest LONG TERM (4+ years) with that capital. It's basically what Michael Saylor does. As long as you can service those loans, you shouldn't have issues long term. Unless a catastrophy happens with BTC, of course. Good on you on researching safety methods. The quick answer is: get a cold wallet like trezor and hide in a safe place (or two) the seed phrase.

Significant_Job5503

Agreed, I’ve started taking profits and of course price keeps going up but I tell myself the amount of time I spent in the red vs the green chances are it will return to below my sell price at some point so take profit while you can or risk another LONG bear market.

Jwilson1996

DO NOT INVEST FOR THE LONG TERM: That way your more likely to make money. Instead you should ALWAYS buy high and sell low. That way you guarantee a loss

Crafty-Magician5208

ETH Perp, 10x LONG

Emergency-Tip5103

bitcoin is not gambling, price always go up on a LONG-TERM vision fiat system is ruined, bitcoin is the only hard money, the only asset that can keep you out of this trash system we living in humanity always looks to the best technology to evolve, once people start feeling more that their salary is not enough due to inflation they will make this evolution and the answer is Bitcoin 🤷🤷

KCConnor

Guys, I want it as much as you all do. But 160 companies out of how many in the world? A quick google search suggests there are 359 million companies in the world. There are 33 million in the US. But, even if we limit it to publicly traded companies, there are about 4000 of those. 160 of 4000 is about 4%. But I bet the 160 number above includes Metaplanet, which is Japanese and not US, which increases the denominator from 4000 to 7900. And probably includes some from Singapore, Hong Kong, and elsewhere. So we're more like sub-1%. And if it includes non-publicly traded companies like SpaceX which hold BTC, then it's sub-0.1%. We've got a LONG WAY TO GO. Most publicly traded companies are going to be watching performance of Strategy, Metaplanet, XXI, and others, through the next bear market, before getting on board. I suspect Strategy is going to have a VERY, VERY HARD bear market to survive. I expect them to be this next bear market's equivalent of the FTX collapse. Not that I think Saylor has done any malfeasance; just that he is the low hanging fruit that many will try to tear apart during weakness.

The_Nothing00

Better keep the suicide hotline handy bud. It's about to get ugly. AUGUST = THE FIRST MONTH OF A 6+ YEAR LONG CRYPTO WINTER.

Pat_McCrotch

113 - 113.5k FULL PORT LONG. THANK ME LATER. OR NOT I DONT REALLY CARE. JUST GET RICH

Boring_Blacksmith_38

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Full-Commercial7538

My personal approach & this is just for me is im 95% in on crypto which is a 70% btc 20% eth 10% others but even then I have most of 10% in sui link aave etc etc I started allocating 1% to sui meme coins as i truly believe its this cycles solana & can gamble with 1% . I do to keep my mind busy & to keep interedted in all things finance so i do not go down the rabbit hold keep 25-50g in stock but usually sell the profits to buy more bitcoin. Then you see the comments about people selling & I have been in since 2016 so I am now of the mindset that I will only sell if there is a clear sign of retracement & then it would be to simply add to my bags. LONG TERM & I HAVE EVEN COLLATERALIZED A COUPLE BTC *( 78G DIP ) to send usdc to another exchange in which i bought a full coin & last wk at 122g i sold that coin which was painful but it was also to simply unlock the 2 collateralized coins I put on loan & currently with tax laws in my state have a pretty good exemption running ky own consultation company but plan on utilizing credit and collateral markets to tap into my bitcoin wealth & keep my play fund on moomoo & webull as earlier mentioned but the way I am seeing this now with latest series of events is everyone above .25 btc will be living good so If I am grasping your concerns its not even really your concern it is your kids kids kids kids kids concern as the previous couple generations will be well off if you have over 0.21 as when i started getting to 21 bitcoin was the goal and i have seen that over the years go to 2.1 abd now people seem to be aiming for 0.21 btc as the goal. In 5 years that will become 0.021 and down the line 0.0021 !!! JUST MY 2 SATOSHIS

Able_Magazine_8150

Buy and hodl a promising LONG TERM project. I did this with Pepecoin ($PEP). Layer 1 code fork of doge with a large discord/reddit community. I invested, it went up, 1000%, and I round tripped it back to being down 40% in total. I went with my gut and doubled and tripled down making a substantial investment. I believe in the project long term, and bought the dips. Recently, if you look at the PEP chart. You can see my investment is not paying off. My advice is get away from the shit tokens that are all hype and find a project with FOUNDATION. One that you can verify work is being done, and the team is looking far far out with large goals and ambitions. Then, all you need to do is be patient. I wish you all the best, much love 💚

blacks4

Omg wow. LONG TERM. stop watching it if you get anxiety on daily/weekly moves. Even if it goes down to $100k, DONT SELL, you BUY MORE.

Supercc

You're checking the price way too often. That renders you susceptible to short-term emotions and potential errors, whereas Bitcoin is LONG TERM.

Appropriate_Roll1486

truth is.. we don't really know how long a reserve can hold out. might take a long time -- we are still better off than ALMLST any other currency. and to get to btc standard -- man that likely isn't a smooth ride. it's almost like praying for a nuclear winter bc u have a bunker if one plans to get rich from btc unless u r an early heavy - a true OG this notion that it becomes 10 million is kind of silly. if it did it would take 100 years. i can't be "all in" -- if i was a 6th gen farmer i wouldn't be all in on land either likely but maybe.. i mean that has scarcity and a LONG track record tillable farmland vs btc is an interesting battle in my mind i'm an odd one out i know. usually i don't get my hand slapped here too much for saying somthing like that in this sub-- i got banned from buttcn for making a comment on block size. literally. get technical at all they ban u. as many of us already know. 1/2 this sub has been banned over there

tcheng23

It still has a LONG way to go up imo so it is not too late or too expensive.

skr_replicator

If you hold good coins, there shouldn't be such a thing as holding TOO LONG. And nobody can perfectly time the top, if you sold at 3.6, it would probably go up to 3.9, and you would be asking yourself the same thing.

TheGreatCryptopo

Please for the love of the hairs on buddahs nutsack any long term crypto hold ANY LONG TERM crypto hold take it off the exchange and put it in cold storage. Golden rule. LONG TERM HOLD COLD STORAGE. Keep your crypto safe in cold storage you take control of your crypto.

Coach_Carter_on_DVD

Unpopular opinion (maybe?), but 2,140 is a LONG time from now. I don’t anticipate BTC being the store of value it is today. It will probably be irrelevant within 25 years. Enjoy the gains.

LargeTask7532

Hey so basically just dont sell because long term wins always because even if it sdown for a few years its gonna go up at some point. Dony worry just keep the bitcoin you bought and wait a LONG time

Recent_Opportunity78

I remember wanting to buy bitcoin a LONG time ago back when news stations first mentioned it. Back before like .05% of the population even heard about crypto. I set out to buy like 100$ worth of bitcoin but it seemed pretty complicated to me so I just gave up immediately

dagobert-dogburglar

If you’re holding LONG term it doesn’t matter that much but i wouldn’t lump sum just right now until it at least again

PhillyNJMusicMan

Most people simply OVERTHINK crypto of any kind, especially Bitcoin and Ethereum. Fuck trying to time the market or trade etc, those are sucker bets most of the time unless you're super lucky. There's no secret about it... True wealth has always been built though BUYING AND HOLDING LONG-TERM. That's it. Good luck and best to all, my friends! 👍🪙😎

Kayless3232

I don't know about quantum apparently it is BS. 2.5 millions (very lost estimation) and growing. I saw many 40% eith a lot of data backup, but I let you DYOR. Nah, I will stay here fpr a while as long as there is money in fiat to be made out of BTC. Worst case scenario I die before seeing BTC dominating the world. But keep in mind, we have different sign language fpr deaf people, so the worl is not ready to unanimous on something for a LONG time. You will see when you get older, it is called perspective. Ps: you can block me anytime, this is a public space.

word-dragon

You hear a lot of these stories, but the reality is that in most cases, they wouldn't be worth $41 million today - they would have thankfully taken the $4,285 (minus the 50 coin reward), or maybe sold it when it got to $40,000. Stories about "the big fish that got away" LONG predate bitcoin!

XXsforEyes

I’d agree with this. If you have a low time preference (meaning a LONG time horizon) before you need it, 0.1 BTC will probably be an important PART of being able to retire. However, if you’re planning on retiring in the next decade or so, 0.1 BTC isn’t nearly enough by itself. So, keep stacking and be prepared for the diversification of a more traditional approach to retirement: 401k / IRA, real estate, equities AND Bitcoin. Good luck and keep stacking!

TexasBoyz-713

In my personal opinion, Bitcoin is behaving exactly the way it should.. preserving one’s capital over the **LONG TERM**. As I’ve said before, as long as governments keep printing fiat, which has happened for basically all human-kind, Bitcoin will rise, and clearly demand is still there considering all the bs we’ve went through the past 6 months and still be above $100k… Just my opinion though.. I’ve been here about a year longer than you and I’m completely satisfied with BTC’s behavior, but I guess it’s all relative. Good luck

rewj123

Most folks do not see the forest through the trees..... XRP has been top 10 for over 10 years. Why? It actually solves problems. It has gone from about $0.25 to $2 in a fairly short time. I expect $20 in a year or two or three. THIS IS A LONG GAME. Tech like XRP takes time to be integrated into real world systems. LONG GAME OR NOTHING. If you cannot see the value to XRP, I cannot help you.....

rewj123

Obvious you do not have the discipline nor temperament. IT TAKES YEARS.... I have been in the crypto game for many years. If you want to make money LONG TERM, DCA when the market dips (like now)... HOLD when the market moves sideways, SELL when the market is up 100, 200, 300, 400 percent. If you can't take 6 months of movement in the crypto markets, then investing in this is not your bag, baby.....

Dogs_Pics_Tech_Lift

Bottom signal right here guys! Go LONG!!!

DragonfruitJaded4624

Let help you understand investing, before explaining “buy the dip” 1. You only buy securities you believe in. The only possible way you could believe in it to buy it, is by a lot of research into it. If you bought a security (stock, index fund, crypto) and if dips after you bought, and you’re sad and confused by that, you do not understand what you invested in. You need to do more research. 2. There is NO GET RICH QUICK. It is only get rich SLOWLY. And OVER TIME. This is where TIME INNNN THE MARKET, beats TIMING the market. What this all means is, you buy assets to HOLD, long term. As in, over 1 year + - DO NOT BUY ASSETS YOU DO NOT PLAN TO HOLD FOR VERY LONG PERIODS OF TIME. Day traders are nothing but gamblers. INVESTORS hold for long periods and see profits. Every stock I was watching as an amateur investor in 2018 is all up a minimum of 300% …. minimum. Some are over 1000% That’s STOCKS. Hadn’t even gotten into crypto yet. So what does this have to do with buying the dip? If you’ve done your research, and you plan to hold for long periods of time, buying thd dip is nothing but seeing your assets on sale to add to your positions. If I bought a stock at $20/shares, and it later dips even more to $15/share, I’m excited for that dip and either buy more, or HOLDING. That’s it. This is a good thing because this LOWERS your cost per share. So when it goes UP, you are making that much more in GAINS. So for beginner investors who have been buying the dips the last couple of months with trump and his tariffs, we didn’t see a return right away, like within a week… but we have now seen crazy returns now that it’s months later. TIME IN THE MARKET. Cliff note. Since you’re in crypto now, you need to prepare for BIG swings. And always remember the golden rule of crypto, if your profit is big enough to take a picture and brag, it’s time to SELL.

__Ken_Adams__

Bitcoin has a LONG history of seriously humbling people with this kind of confidence.

jakestvn

It just depends on your horizon and what your goal is. If you plan to invest long term (years to decades) BTC will crush ETH (the numbers speak for themselves). If you’re plan is to swing trade or invest more short term, high cap alt coins and maybe even some meme coins can be a strong play if you play your entry and exits right, buying into fear and selling into greed, catching some pumps here and there. I’m not saying to not hold any alts long term but a 50/50 split LONG TERM is foolish. I bought ETH very early around $200, I made the mistake of not taking profits as around that time there was still talks of ETH catching up or flipping BTC. Long term bitcoin would have outperformed my investments into alts by miles. I’m my opinion, alts are over saturated and seasons are slowly dying, as well as retail is becoming less and less interested in them and more interested in bitcoin. So again it comes down to what your goals are and timeline is.

WinterSufficient9724

I mean... if this entity were to come back, I think they would have already, they would have made off with this exit scam LONG ago.

The1WhoDares

HODL!! Yes, like LONG term. This is no longer a short term easy WIN

NOneHOne

20%? My LONG TERM capital gains are just about 24% and that's assuming I've owned my BTC for over a year (ie, haven't traded it at all). Not to mention that the LTCG rate will almost double at some point down the road if the Democratic Party has its way. 12% does seem pretty high but that number will come down substantially once this practice becomes established and dozens of competitors enter the industry. I'm fairly certain that, at some point, borrowing fiat against BTC will be the standard - at least until fiat goes away entirely.

PatternProdigy

Quantum computing rental costs are still stupid high. It won't be cost-effective to hack Bitcoin for a LONG time. Kinda like A.I., quantum computers still make a ton of errors. I can't imagine having enough error-corrected qubits functioning properly to hack Bitcoin for decades. Don't worry too much.

SatoshiBlockamoto

I agree the guy's a scumrat, but the very idea that the VP of the US is publicly taking this position is absolutely mid blowing. We've come a LONG way from Buffet calling it rat poison squared.

xtexm

My cousins mother passed away. I gave her some Bitcoin. When I see her(my cousin) I always ask “how’s your Bitcoin doing.” Obviously, her mother passing away is very tragic, and sad. Time is the most scarce precious thing we have. But, last time I seen her she was up 80%. It wasn’t even two years ago I sent her Bitcoin. “Is that good?” She’s ask. Me: “Yes it’s good!” It’s on a need to know basis, if she wanted she would learn more about it, how it works etc. But, I think the corruption of money is a good starting point. However, I think we have a LONG way to go as far as adoption globally.

UrTwiN

When MSTR and other companies following suit eventually collapse, there is going to be extreme fucking hell to pay for Bitcoin. I like Bitcoin, I have no problem with it, but a company raising debt to throw into Bitcoin isn't sustainable. They have over 500,000 Bitcoin. When they collapse, whether it's 1 year or 5 years from now, that's going to haunt Bitcoin for a LONG time to come, in the same way that Mt.Gox has. I think it's going to mark the end of large scale institutional investment in Bitcoin (or anything else crypto) for at least a couple of decades. Nobody will want to be the "next microstrategy".

Illustrious-Boss9356

You ask a great question. So I think there are two things here and the second one addresses your question. First, what you describe are things that influence the market value and price of Bitcoin in the near term. PR image, hype around the token, FOMO, etc. You're right that what has been a positive influence for BTC price could easily turn negative. Remember, this could apply just as easily to things like stocks of companies, fiat currencies, governments and economies, gold, cars, houses, etc. Second, what you're asking is what's the underlying that over the LONG TERM, can persevere through all of this noise. For stocks you could argue a certain company has the ability or assets to perform a service or deliver goods profitably, for cars you can argue there's value in transportation, for houses you could argue that people need places to live in and that land is scarce, etc. For Bitcoin, the long term point would be that it is a decentralized ledger that commands more computing power than every other ledger in history. It allows people, nations and companies to put their capital into a ledger that has proven to be so far unhackable. It also provides an alternative to nation-state created systems. One could argue this provides tremendous value!

JmanFrom87

Didn’t say that. It’s just not going to 10x again unless you are talking LONG term. I am a bitcoiner, but this sub is incredibly delusional. Another guy replied to me calling for 10x in 4 years and then another 10x to 10 million a coin 5 years after that.

_Commando_

He is now SHORTing BTC, hahaha Classic "guys its going to 120k next week, then closes his LONG and goes SHORT hahaha Fkn hilarious https://www.coinglass.com/hyperliquid/0x5078c2fbea2b2ad61bc840bc023e35fce56bedb6

_Commando_

Sure, for 30 days... but taking a 22.82M L is huge. Clearly the gamble didn't pay off for that LONG position.

jarviez

I don't think it's inevitable that we live in a cashless society SO LONG as we take this as a warning and support legislation that preserves cash and the right to use it in any amount. I think it's entirely possible as Bitcoiners to understand the danger of holding fiot as an asset and yet still advicate for the right to hold it because of how useful cash is for privacy and freedom.

TheFudge

I haven’t bought in a LONG time. I dont know why but this dip to the 70’s got me and I started buying again and DCA for the past couple weeks.

AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us

That's too bad, I used them a LONG time ago without issues.

mreJ

You're not retiring for VERY LONG with 4 BTC doofy. Jesus Christ.

Silver_Blackberry828

I would say buy it. Just keep in mind you won’t see profits overnight, think LONG term.

PresentAdvertising29

Meaning, if it crashes to like a $1000, use your dry powder and buy as much as possible? The biggest problem with that approach is that all of us here would use it up LONG before it got to $1000!!! And with that kind of crash, bitcoin might never recover anyway. All trust would be lost in any "store of value" that violently loses it all.

lllAgelll

I get that and I see a point, but I also see a lot of "unanswereds" is my issue. like if bitcoin (I'm using it as an example since its clearly the most profitable) becomes the future what exactly is the gain? currently most people claim its instantaneous fund transferals, but that seems like a very small QoL change, for such a drastic upheaval of our current system and the decentralization seems only legitimately useful if it becomes the universal global standard. without global adoption. the decentralization seems hardly of any value because all that's gonna happen is each nation is gonna make their own national crypto and we are back at square 1. I'm fine with moving towards world unification, but our modern politics kinda proves that isn't gonna happen for a LONG time.

JeopardyQBot

wow that almost a 2k 1min candle on btc IT'S BEEN TOO LONG

AnoAnoSaPwet

I understand PoW makes sense if you mine it. Even at loss. That is where BTC succeeds. Because you are getting it essentially for free, you have to pay after you acquire it, vs. everyone else who has to pay first before acquiring it? Other than that, I've never understood buying and holding a PoW cryptocurrency? It's meant to be sold, used, traded, not held.  PoS is meant to be staked to support the network.  But BTC lost its base function a LONG time ago. 

Hot_Establishment216

It's possible, but not always. Where you're in control- only you can sell at a loss, it's a voluntary act. Pick a crypto you trust will grow, even if there is a dip. Eth would not be my choice. I don't like risk and would only say trade with BTC Where you're not in control- a day or days might be a consistent dip, meaning nearly zero opportunity for profit. My honest suggestion, if you want to do this: - only do this with BTC. If you want risk and to consider alt coins, take a look at the current price and take a look at its history. You'll see the floor of that coin has been WAY lower than the current price. Consider that floor is possible again and could lock you out of selling that entry for a LONG time. - define mimunim price differences to ensure profit, factoring in your fees. - accept that your entry may be lost to a dip. Don't sell at a loss. Psychologically, you can just compartmentalize that's your long-term DCA. This is your biggest risk to loss, as long as you don't choose a coin that never recovers from your entry. - keep track of every entry and it's price point. That way you can always track the sell you need to make a profit from that exact transaction. Just know, this takes a lot of attention and effort. A lot. Taking advantage of regular BTC volatility over the weekend I made over $400 and I was constantly monitoring. Depending on your day job you might want to consider a couple/few trades a week.

PangolinIcy3868

Bed snacks...convenient toilet at the end of the bed....any grizzlies come near...just shove em in the toilet? It would be a LONG week...but 1BTC per night? Yeah...I'd be tempted by that!

JerryLeeDog

2 years is a timeline for ants These are LONG term holds. You will actually be better off than people with access to their accounts. Most people who dont fully grasp Bitcoin cannot take the volatility Anyone asking about a 2 years hold falls into that category