TIME

imabraindeaddonkey

More users, miners, hashrate, but ignore all that because... THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT! /s

Monsignor1979

I'm not a cycle denier, I'm a realist. People have been claiming 'patterns and algorithms' in the stock market for over 100 years and still get it wrong ALL THE TIME. If you guys could truly predict markets (any markets) using 'patterns and algorithms' everyone in the world would be rich. Like you haven't seriously heard the phrase "Past performance is no guarantee of future results."? I invest my money in the hopes it will go up, not because I KNOW it'll go up. And for someone who has been avidly investing for 25 years, I'm doing just fine.

AirSpecial

There is a 21 million Bitcoin supply cap hardcoded mathematical rule programmed into its source code. You cannot mine more Bitcoin beyond this limit, it is literally impossible. Over 95% of the total supply (20 million coins) has already been mined as of March 2026. The rest is projected to be mined around 2140. You talk about halving as if you understand the function, purpose, and long-term implications of it: you understand none of those things. There will be 33 halvings in total, at which point the sum of every Bitcoin that could ever possibly exist will have been mined as a result of it’s code having been mathematically designed to allow for an inelastic, scarce, and finite digital asset that cannot be faked, counterfeited, seized, manipulated (unilaterally nor otherwise), nor erased. Short of every single Bitcoin mining node on Earth (which may as well be every computer on Earth) having their entire storage databases destroyed or permanently disconnected from the internet all at the same time, Bitcoin is designed in such a way so as to prevent a failure in accurate ledger reporting. That is what the blockchain is; the most sophisticated and self-enduring accounting ledger ever. To ruin this, a person (or sci-go Skynet-like AEG) would have to hack EVERY SINGLE BLOCKCHAIN LEDGER IN THE WORLD AT THE SAME EXACT TIME AND MODIFY TRANSACTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY AND PERFECTLY to ruin people’s faith in the blockchain as an immutable ledger that cannot be manipulated. Good luck with that. The cost of the electricity is what will ultimately allow it to become the most valuable finite digital asset ever. Call it a waste all you want. When it eventually becomes one of the most valuable global assets in the world, you’ll probably still call it a waste. Holders will not. “If every bank in the world made it impossible to convert to fiat, it could be rendered worthless.” Yes, except that is not what banks are doing for a multiplicity of reasons, least of which include the fact that a massive amount of banks are heavily invested in Bitcoin themselves because they’re not stupid and know that they can use it as a valuable diversification asset. This is a double edged sword, because it slows the growth of bitcoin to an extent whilst also increasing private sector adoption, which encourages state level adoption. Remember, the private sector leverages state powers against other state powers so as to make the most money from everyone else. Now that a wide array of private investors and national powers are heavily invested in using Bitcoin as a wealth transfer and risk-on lever for their own interests because they’re see how widely adopted it is by general people as an alternative to fiat, they can use that general enthusiasm to transfer a lot of retail wealth back to the top. But this only negatively affects late adopters of every cycle, not early adopters. And since the halving:scarcity dichotomy will keep creating all time highs and then higher lows, there will be multiple opportunities to get in as a *cyclical* early adopter. This is a uniquely attractive asset that private equity and governments have actively began participating in and propagating. By the end of the final halving, the most financially dominant governments in the world would then have to do 2 things to make Bitcoin worthless: 1. Liquidate all of their Bitcoin holdings, which would be one of, if not the, most valuable assets ever (so basically purposefully cut off their nose to spite their own faces). 2. Outlaw Bitcoin. This would require unprecedented cooperation between multiple global superpowers who see themselves as competitors to one another to all agree to purposefully destroy one of their most powerful assets of all time. To what end and for what reason? Just to spite their own populations? Has that ever happened? A bunch of the most powerful governments in the world are just left with no alternative means to real in the financial power and independence of their own citizens so they just say, “eh, fuck it. Let’s destroy the global economy.” No. Skepticism is funny, you should look up its historical prevalence in so many great things once thought impossible or unreasonable before. Nothing wrong with it and in fact, it tends to make the final product better. I believe you’re wrong, you believe I’m wrong. Let’s wait and see.

Alive-Yak9875

THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENent \_ Rogoff

egej

Down 15% means it BUYING TIME !!

PeeOnDusk

the reason why "this time is different" is actually true is because there are other speculative outlets out there. it's easier than ever to gamble now on sports, prediction markets, 0dte, AI trade, IPO's, and RWA on perp dex's. people no longer need crypto tokens to speculate, they can do it everywhere else now. so it''s true, THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT and for the better. useless protocols (Both L1 and L2) will die. stupid shit like meme coins are done. why would you speculate on a rug pull that a single moron has control over when you can gamble on poly market (where you think you have an edge), or on the momentum trade like ai. this is a good sign for the industry. it is maturing, and ultimately, only the strong networks will survive, with utility: 1. Store of value (bitcoin, zec) 2. public infrastructure (eth, sol) 3. revenue generating tokens (hype, Lit, other perp dex) in terms of the token prices for these majors, who knows. no one knows how to price eth the asset. clearly no one knows how to price btc either and how to deal with the volatility. and what's the appropriate FDV/Rev multiple for Hype or Lighter? we will find out soon enough I think there is clear upside on all these categories in the next 4 years

bfolster16

Back the truck up. TIME TO BUY

Ubique008

Many such cases from the 2017 and 2021 classes too I myself was up big big on Danielle Sesta's bullshit (TIME, SPELL, ICE) and made over 100x initial investment trading on the AVAX and FTM chain Got rekt Such is life

Pingon25

LMAO! Sounds to me like this dude is sour that he FOMO bought BTC @ $110k and is now neg $40k. Sir, BTC is doing EXACTLY what it’s supposed to be doing. She’s RIGHT ON TIME ⏰. I still see BTC could realistically hit \~$40k Sept/Oct 2026

popoppopcorn

Yes, crypto is in bit of a rut comparatively, but this exact same argument was used last year against ETH and then it rallied. Of course past performance does not equal future performance, but either you get out of crypto believing it's completely shit or you buy ETH now and grab a 3x. If you are going to fail with timing, are you more likely to fail at 4500 or at 1500? Of course THIS TIME it could be different, but that is said every time.

CapeManJohnny

Posts like this are at least 15% of why the vast majority of people look at BTC as a fucking meme. "GUYS I INVESTED THE 18$ I HAD SAVED UP BY ROBBING MY GRANDMA INTO BITCOIN AT THE ALL TIME HIGH AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO MAKE A MILLIONAIRE ALREADY WHY BITCOIN DO YOU FORSAKE ME YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT COIN" Most people on this fucking sub are not serious people.

ResonanceCascade1998

Haha you would think. I watched it completely blow up soon after covid and everyone thought 100k was inevitable it seemed. It went from still being slightly niche to being on superbowl ads and the institutional backing more than every seen before. Yet it still crashed to 15k. In the same vein I've seen meme cycles come and go as the opportunity presents itself to people. I think countries that pivoted towards adopting BTC was a sign of what was to come to be honest and not in a good way. This was a sign of bad actors infiltrating the system with the power of nations behind them, I just never expected the US President to directly launch a scam..not only that but I personally watched his wallet in REAL TIME rug a project from a passionate dev right before he took office again. Now the ecosystem is saturated with grifts and it will take a while for many to die off. I think this is also a reason many people fled the ecosystem. That being said I do expect more innovation and adoption. Like someone before me said "every failure was a step in the right direction" and just about everything failed. Not in concept but in execution. I except things to go south especially given recent events but I don't think its the end

Necessary-Dot6983

Lost over 60% of its value in the past 8 months. YES, IT’S TIME TO PANIC

PovasTheOne

Lmao, havent heard the ‘ tomorrows payday’ cope in a LONG TIME

matchday_museum

This happens everytime since I can remember. 11 500 - wow I wish I bought it when I 1st heard about it! 3700 - damn, this shit going to zero! I swear EVERY. FKN. TIME.

liquid_at

unbelievable... OP just leaked my recovery phrase! How did you know? 😂 Now I have to put it in my spare wallet with the phrase "NICE TRY IDIOT BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME YOU ABSOLUTE WASTE OF AIR" .... I'm telling you all in confidence! No one leak this one. Not again! 🤣

cambalaxo

EVERY SINGLE TIME ! Come on, man. You have to learn someday

JustAnotherRandom611

The idea of just bouncing around the investments is more to the point - like how much did you actually make in Crypto and then have to pay in taxes to then buy super HIGH costs of AI stocks as they are going up. No on is able to truly TIME the markets and the BIG 7 are currently propping up the Market and even while BTC and ETH are down in the dumps - I'd argue better to just hold some positions in those, or hit some of the smaller but top 20-30 Coins because the returns their could be huge -- XRP, ADA, LINK are the three I'd definitely just throw a few bucks in and just hold for the next year or so in the event a bigger crypto bull run.

JohnnyZhivago999

Bro- ANY TIME A chicken little (but IRL A WHALE) uses “THE SKY IS FALLING !!!” in regards to crypto, I BUY. AND I BUY ACROSS THE BOARD. The more imminent the DANGER, the more creaky and fragile the bridge, the more tenuous and ancient the ropes and pins that hold it together, the more dollars I risk in it. And I am WAY in the black. Do not trust ANYTHING “Wall Street prophets” say, because if they are

Solid-Individual-913

I dont need your worthless bag dude. You are literally worthless next to me. And I didnt come for you personally today. But you are toxic to any sane conversation about crypto with your bullshit attitude. As I said, I have enough to be 700% sure that you don't have a fraction of my bag. And you are dumb enough that you want to discuss only positive side. So what the fuck are you doing here if you dont come to engage with people in good faith? You are here to see a pink world? Go get back to your drug dealer and get high because that s the only way you are getting high in this market. Any sane person would simply analyze information, talk about the market. Consider the market conditions AT THIS POINT IN TIME. Consider the effects of current events. All those things that you want to ignore to act like a retard that only says line goes up.

Decent-Treat-3298

Haha , you dont have TIME to waych the video? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

PlutoPlaneta

No. The argument is that something either has properties that are good for money as an actual medium of exchange (slightly depreciating) or it has properties that are good for a store of value (beats inflation) but it cant be BOTH AT THE SAME TIME as Bitcoin proponents claim. Naturally holding dollars is a bad idea. But thats why nobody does it and people hold equities instead.

Necessary-Nature-380

You all got rugpulled when stock markets are euphoric. TIME TO DECLINE TO $20K LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

RepresentativeMath85

Its about TIME

Sitchoassdown7414

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BtcXrays

Take my words. BTC 121K ALL TIME HIGH COMING IN FEW WEEKS. COULD BE ANYTIME. Be prepared. All alts will do 10x. Also dont forget to donate my work if you like it once you see all time high because i know your gonna find me 🤗. All the best 💪💚

ItsPickles

You’re being snarky but at this time, knowing an ALL TIME HIGH hits is the only important metric we know as it happens. Usually for any position it’s unwise to buy at all time high. That shouldn’t be a hot take

Generationhodl

"Why different rows with different values for coverage? The columns " 0.5X" etc" \-> Different rows for different price of bitcoin. Its always oriented after the power law trend. The power law bottom is "Trend \* 0,42" So you basically see very easy the amount of years your bitcoin would be enough at specific price points (trend levels to the powerlaw) Coverage is just the amount of your bitcoin and if its enough to sustain your yearly expenses if the price would stay ALL THE TIME at the bottom support line of the power law. play around with the numbers and watch how things change.

BornInForestHills

Not ready for prime time. Like why not keep your cash in your mattress? Because we have BANKS TO SAFEGUARD MONEY. How can anyone take crypto seriously when hacks like this happen ALL THE TIME?

CurryMustard

**Crypto** - **House Judiciary Democrats' report "Trump, Crypto, and a New Age of Corruption"** (Nov 2025) — documents up to $11.6 billion in Trump family crypto holdings and $800M+ in crypto income H1 2025: [democrats-judiciary.house.gov](https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/new-report-exposes-the-trump-family-s-multi-billion-dollar-crypto-empire-fueled-by-self-dealing-and-corrupt-foreign-interests) - **Sen. Blumenthal opens Senate PSI inquiry into $TRUMP memecoin, WLF, Fight Fight Fight LLC**: [blumenthal.senate.gov](https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/permanent-subcommittee-on-investigations-opens-inquiry-into-trump-crypto-corruption) - **Merkley/Warren letter on the UAE MGX–Binance–World Liberty Financial $2B deal** (emoluments concerns): [banking.senate.gov](https://www.banking.senate.gov/newsroom/minority/forwarding-merkley-warren-trump-linked-crypto-deal-is-a-staggering-conflict-of-interest) - **PBS/AP — Crypto.com investigation dropped, then $1B deal with Trump Media**: [pbs.org](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-a-trump-business-deal-with-a-crypto-firm-exposes-potential-conflicts-of-interest) - **Wikipedia overview (with extensive citations) — "Cryptocurrency in the second Trump presidency"**: [en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_in_the_second_Trump_presidency) ## Qatar plane (Air Force One) - **NPR — Pentagon officially accepts the Qatari 747-8**: [npr.org](https://www.npr.org/2025/05/21/nx-s1-5406420/trump-accepts-qatar-plane-air-force-one) - **CNN — sources say Trump admin approached Qatar first, contradicting the "gift" narrative**: [cnn.com](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/19/politics/trump-adminstration-approached-qatar-jet) - **NBC — bipartisan concerns, emoluments clause resolution introduced**: [nbcnews.com](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/pentagon-says-accepted-qatars-gift-luxury-megajet-trumps-use-rcna208300) ## Insider trading / market manipulation - **Rep. Torres letter to SEC/CFTC on $500M+ oil futures trade 15 min before Trump's Iran post**: [ritchietorres.house.gov](https://ritchietorres.house.gov/posts/rep-torres-demands-sec-and-cftc-investigate-suspicious-oil-futures-trade-made-ahead-of-trump-iran-announcement) - **Warren/Schumer/Wyden letter asking SEC to investigate tariff-pause trading**: [banking.senate.gov](https://www.banking.senate.gov/newsroom/minority/warren-schumer-senate-colleagues-call-on-sec-to-launch-investigation-into-possible-trump-tariff-market-manipulation-insider-trading) - **TIME — breakdown of the "great time to buy" Truth Social post and tariff pause**: [time.com](https://time.com/7276515/explaining-insider-trading-accusations-leveled-at-trump-tariffs-pause/) - **Rep. Horsford — pattern of suspiciously timed trades**: [horsford.house.gov](https://horsford.house.gov/media/press-releases/18-minutes-47-minutes-a-troubling-pattern-of-insider-trading-that-the-trump-administration-can-t-explain) - **Oxford Law Blog — legal analysis of insider trading/market manipulation claims**: [blogs.law.ox.ac.uk](https://blogs.law.ox.ac.uk/oblb/blog-post/2025/04/most-far-reaching-securities-fraud-history-trump-tariffs-and-securities-law) ## Government spending at Trump properties - **CREW — Secret Service spent ~$100K at Trump properties in the first months of the second term**: [citizensforethics.org](https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/secret-service-has-spent-nearly-100k-at-trump-properties/) - **CREW — 100th Mar-a-Lago visit recap and conflicts history**: [citizensforethics.org](https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-mar-a-lago-100-visits/) - **American Oversight — taxpayer spending at Trump properties (FOIA records)**: [americanoversight.org](https://americanoversight.org/tracking-taxpayer-spending-at-trump-properties/) - **GAO — official cost analysis of 4 Mar-a-Lago trips ($13.6M)**: [gao.gov](https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-19-178) ## Pardons and dropped investigations (crypto and financial) - **Decrypt — comprehensive roundup: Coinbase, Kraken, Binance, Ripple, Robinhood, OpenSea, Uniswap, Gemini, Consensys, etc.**: [decrypt.co](https://decrypt.co/308273/trump-sec-ending-crypto-lawsuits-investigations) - **CoinDesk — House Democrats' letter on "pay-to-play" pattern; watchdog says ~$3.1B in avoided penalties**: [coindesk.com](https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/01/15/democrats-slam-sec-for-dropping-crypto-cases-amid-trump-ties) - **Americans for Financial Reform — timeline of Binance/CZ deal then pardon**: [ourfinancialsecurity.org](https://ourfinancialsecurity.org/news/blog-trump-administration-lets-loose-the-dogs-of-crypto/) - **Cointelegraph / NYT — SEC dropped ~60% of crypto cases; no active case against a firm with known Trump ties**: [cointelegraph.com](https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-crypto-enforcement-donald-trump-dropped) ## Trump-branded merchandise (Bibles, shoes, T1 phone, NFTs) - **Christianity Today — $1.3M from Bible licensing in 2024, per financial disclosures**: [christianitytoday.com](https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/06/trump-bible-endorsement-profit/) - **NPR — God Bless the USA Bible launch details**: [npr.org](https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/1241186975/donald-trump-bible-god-bless-usa) - **ABC News — sneakers, NFTs, Bible overview with CIC Ventures structure**: [abcnews.go.com](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-endorses-line-bibles-after-selling-shoes-nfts/story?id=108543985) - **PBS/AP — T1 phone never shipped, "Made in USA" claim dropped**: [pbs.org](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/whatever-happened-to-trump-mobiles-promise-of-a-golden-phone) - **Wikipedia — Trump Mobile overview with citations**: [en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Mobile) ## "Big Beautiful Bill" tax analysis - **CBPP — distributional analysis, wealthiest get $100K+, low earners get ~$250**: [cbpp.org](https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/by-the-numbers-harmful-republican-megabill-favors-the-wealthy-and-leaves) - **Center for American Progress — "7 Ways the BBB Cuts Taxes for the Rich"**: [americanprogress.org](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/7-ways-the-big-beautiful-bill-cuts-taxes-for-the-rich/) - **House Budget Dems — fact sheet comparing to TCJA**: [democrats-budget.house.gov](https://democrats-budget.house.gov/resources/fact-sheet/trumps-big-bill-billionaires-steals-poor-give-ultra-rich) - **NPR — 6 specific BBB provisions that benefit high-income filers**: [npr.org](https://www.npr.org/2025/11/05/nx-s1-5590112/trump-beautiful-bill-taxes-republican-rich-wealthy) - **Penn Wharton Budget Model finding (via Clyburn) — top 10% get 80% of benefits, bottom 40% lose income**: [clyburn.house.gov](https://clyburn.house.gov/trumps-big-beautiful-bill-steals-from-the-poor-gives-to-the-rich/)

Inventor-BlueChip710

You can run more devices, but you can’t scale them fast. Each identity (through which you get eligible to mine transactions) is created slowly and every one needs its own real, always on network presence (connections and etc). So 1,000 “phones” means maintaining 1,000 active independent participants over time, not just buying hardware, where maintaining those independent miners is designed to become costly and difficult especially under competition and the key variable TIME. So, power comes from staying active longer, maintaining connections with witness chains, continuous data exchange and etc, not spending more or having more hardware. And like any blockchain, security depends on lots of honest users which is why the system keeps entry requirements (set up) low so more people can participate.

ReaperCadillac63

I can’t stress this enough. IT IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT TIME TO BUY BITCOIN!

_SlipperySalmon_

Like Ben Cowan says "bear markers make fools of the bulls and the bears". There is way more TIME in a bear market spent treading UP but when the price pukes it pukes FAST to a new low. I still think we see sub 60k bitcoin and probably sub 50k bitcoin prior to a real bull market starting

Benzo_Head

Delusional Bitcoin if following EXACTLY the same cycle as 2014, 2018 and 2022. “NOOOO THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT SAYLOR SAID SO!!1!!1” Yeah sure, see you in November

Ok_Reserve4109

According to testimony, the idiot drove to what would become the crime scene in a orange Lamborghini Urus, ffs!! Someone in his position pulling this type of shit would normally say something like, "This can't be traced back to me," maybe provide his crew some info about the victims, the plan, and the means to pull it off, but keep himself on the sidelines. You know, plausible deniability. But NO! This mfr rode in on a rainbow unicorn with a megaphone yelling, "HEY EVERYONE! I HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THIS PART OF TOWN, AT THIS TIME OF DAY, DRIVING THIS CAR, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW I'M HERE!!"

Competitive_Use320

Nah man, I know my worth. TIME (Things I must earn). At least I didn’t give it away!

Electrical-Cat-6660

The only thing that will make this really is TIME & CONVICTION.

EarningsPal

Stealing TIME from everyone

xarips

52 comments in 20 hours a NEW ALL TIME LOW

Forsaken-Welcome-709

The goal is NOT to make money ( fiat cash garbage ;) ). Many of us go through a "what even is Bitcoin" phase, and it forces us to ask and answer hard questions about "what even is money". Once you get through that, you change your frame of reference. Cash is not money, Bitcoin is money. Cash is just what everyone out there wants to use as money. And wall street is willing to even lend this cash thing to us so we can use that instead of buying this cash thing. What's the benefit of that? Well asset appreciation. But it isn't appreciation to us, its just stepping away from the massive constant debasement of what everyone else is calling money. So sure, you will give me a loan so I can use this "cash", and then ask for the money back later on after it has been debased to hell? What a deal, what a steal! The trick of course is that there are many variables to consider. APR, time, liquidation levels, and Bitcoin's perceived and traded volatility in the market. These things, that the finance industry uses as the basis of their rules when lending to you, affect your ability to safely borrow. So we have to over compensate. This is why it isn't the right thing for EVERYONE to do, but for many it is beneficial. The TLDR; is that if the CAGR (compound annual growth rate) of Bitcoin is higher than the APR of the loan, then by the time you have to pay off the loan, you end up selling less of your bitcoin for the amount that you borrowed. But even better, you can borrow more and roll over the loan. Well now we are starting to see the benefits of that "compound" word. The loan compounds, but the CAGR does too, and since it is higher than the APR, it compounds faster than the APR. Then there's the volatility of Bitcoin: CAGR is a smooth straight line, Bitcoin doesn't trade like that, so there needs to be a lot of precautions taken. People recommend keeping below 15% LTV (loan to value) when you take out your loan(s) at all times. This way it should theoretically survive any bear market, even if Bitcoin crashed 80%, you wouldn't be forced to liquidate and settle the loan, so you can continue to let TIME do its thing. Over time, you debt grows into tens, hundreds of thousands, or a million or more, but.... percentage wise, it goes down. Your LTV goes from 15% to 10% to 5% to 1%. That means when you finally decide to pack it up, you sell 0.01 BTC instead of 0.15 BTC. The other important reason is that governments demand CAPITAL GAINS TAXES. If you sell your bitcoin now, you pay the market value, and you pay high taxes on top of that. If you do it after you retire, you pay less taxes potentially because you don't earn a salary anymore, plus the value grew higher, so Bitcoin right now is for many, a savings play, not a make a quick buck play. In the future, if the climate changes and governments decide that Bitcoin is money and that it shouldn't be subject to capital gains taxes, then even better! Time is on our side, even if CGT goes up, it is very likely that the value of the asset appreciated enough that we still made out the winner. CGT applies whether you buy paper money, or buy a house or buy a wedding, whatever. Anyway, all the while, you just keep stacking and keeping money to yourself until everyone else catches up and starts to ask for your bitcoin money instead of the toilet paper. Now, even with all that I have said, playing with loans is still dangerous, still feels like gambling, and so people like myself just stack and/or hodl, and don't over invest so that we can live off our salaries and keep that bitcoin for emergencies or retirement, or for some big expense that we were saving for... like a wedding, or a house or something we need in the future that we otherwise couldn't have afforded. I think of those who take loans, half of them will do magnitudes better than us, and half of them will get rekt because it takes much more discipline to manage loans like this without getting into trouble and undoing all your hard work in a moment.

EarningsPal

Inflation steals your TIME. You spend TIME earning $Money in your country’s currency. If you don’t convert it into an assets, the buying power is lost, thus your TIME spent earning that buying power is lost. But if you have enough assets, the asset earns you $Money without you spending TIME doing something to survive. So in other words, the rich take the TIME of the poor through inflation. Those with enough already, can stay alive without spending their TIME doing anything they don’t want to do. Many fly around and spend $Money that gets replaced by their assets. This is why investing is a must. You choose to consume your earnings or invest them. Once you choose how much you need, you can calculate how long it will take at various savings rates. Most people need to sacrifice a few years to get a head start investment early in life. Sacrifice Comfort, Fun, Consumption early and it makes the rest of your life way different. Once you have enough, your future work can be invested at a much higher %. It is the start that is tough. Ex. $0 assets, you must rent a room or stay with a friend/family. Invest 100% if possible to accelerate the timeline. $500,000 assets, earns a modest 1-bedroom apartment worth of living conditions without working. So while you work, 100% can still be invested and start to upgrade your permanent living conditions. But if you spend 85% of the income, then you never get to $500,000 fast enough.

DangerHighVoltage111

> I'm answering because I made the same mistake last Sunday that I did in 2021: buying BCH at the top. That's on you. I buy BCH at the bottom and don't sell at the top. My net worth has increased significantly with BCH. >Agree. But for that to happen, 1,000,000 moving pieces must ALL fit into a working mechanism, AT THE SAME TIME. Only God himself can do that. In other words: BCH proliferation is not gonna happen during our lifetime. Challenge accepted. Nobody said this would be a walk in the park. >Once you're back to reality, you realize that a "better, sound monetary system" is just a pipe dream. Every revolution was. >What you CAN do, is to escape the rat race yourself, by becoming financially stable and independent. You can't. The time of lifechanging gains is over at BTC. And you still need all the custodians that control you. If they want they can take it all away. But they don't care if a few get rich, they care if you get free.

the_rodent_incident

I'm answering because I made the same mistake last Sunday that I did in 2021: buying BCH at the top. So maybe it's better that I warn as many people possible not to make same mistake again. >BCH is the best chance for a better sound monetary system. Agree. But for that to happen, 1,000,000 moving pieces must ALL fit into a working mechanism, AT THE SAME TIME. Only God himself can do that. In other words: BCH proliferation is not gonna happen during our lifetime. Once you're back to reality, you realize that a "better, sound monetary system" is just a pipe dream. What you CAN do, is to escape the rat race yourself, by becoming financially stable and independent. BCH never managed to reclaim ANY of the previous ATHs, so I suppose it's just gonna spiral into nothingness. How it arrived back to Number 10, is nothing short of a miracle, though.

MAGICBANANASSSS

Do you guys pay attention to absolutely nothing but crypto?? How is it that EVERY SINGLE TIME there’s a massive world event people are like “what’s happening?? Why are we red??”

BimmerLife1992

Talk to chat gpt. Itll screen similar experiences over the internet then tell you ex what others did. Piece it together from there. TAKE YOUR TIME. Dont let anything make you feel forced , pressured. You won. Move like you already received it. Find a WORTHY acctant. An hlnest one for sure

moonlight1648

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Crim3mast3rZ

Btc clings to 65k for 5 seconds, media outlets be like YES RECOVERY IS COMING BOYS RELEASE THIS ARTICLE FOR 500000TH TIME

Dons231

Not exactly on same scale but remember TIME Wonderland, it lost about 1 billion $. In 2 weeks

ReliantToker

THE 2106 "TIME WRAP" ​While modern tech circles often panic about the "Year 2038" bug (where 32-bit Unix systems will fail), Bitcoin is immune to that specific crash. However, the network has its own distant "final boss" date: February 7, 2106. ​This is because Bitcoin uses an unsigned 32-bit integer for its block timestamps. Unlike standard Unix time, which uses a "signed" bit (limiting it to 2038), Bitcoin's counter can go twice as far. On that day in 2106, the counter will hit its maximum value (4,294,967,295 seconds) and roll back to zero. ​To the network, it would suddenly look like the year is 1970. Because Bitcoin’s consensus rules require that a new block's timestamp must be greater than the median of the previous 11 blocks, the blockchain would physically stop—no new transactions could ever be confirmed. Satoshi was fully aware of this. When asked about it in the early days, he simply remarked that the "unsigned int" was good until 2106 and that the network would likely be "totally revamped" at least once before then. We have 80 years to fix a single line of code, but the "Timechain" remains the only financial system with a hard-coded expiration date.

Emergency_Egg1281

# TIME

Outrageous-Lie-828

The mother fukkin TIME

will2002g

Bitcoin went from basically $1 up to 126k! It’s nothing out there like it. And really it’s like either you in it or not, it’s that simple. All I know is EVERY TIME they say it’s crap or going to zero, all it does is come back with new All time highs! Go figure…..

bobbyv137

JFC. This isn’t complicated. There is a clear trend of when Bitcoin tops thus bottoms. It seems to have topped in Q4 the post having year, FOR THE FOURTH TIME IN A ROW! Respect the cycle. It will break one day. But ‘every model is valid, until it is invalid’. The 4 year cycle absolutely remains valid today.

ieatmoondust

Like this *EVERY TIME*! *except for when its not

Maestrosc

Yes. I was there when it went from 1200 to 250 I’ve been doing it that long. It’s the EXACT SAME THING EVERY SINGLE TIME IT DROPS. I have people in my life who have told me “I bet you regret not selling now”… 3-4 times now, after different bull runs and drops. I’m up several hundred thousand dollars even after this drop… no. I have never regretted holding. I’ve only ever regretted past sales.

FnAardvark

Omfg you're dense. People say to lump sum because TIME IN the market beats TIMING the market. Because you can't know if it's going to go up or down, you limp sum. I've seen that said 1000's of times, and if you haven't, you haven't been here that long or you just don't pay attention.

FnAardvark

Yes people say lump sum because TIME IN THE MARKET. And you're telling OP that nobody told him that on this sub, which is insane to me.

RandomJoe7

But guys... when I told people last year that the 4 year cycle will do it's thing again and we're entering bear market... so many said "IDIOT, ITS DIFFERENT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TOP!". Yeah, looks a lot like the 4 year cycle to me. :)

Algo_Mas

he could do some similar shieet again!!!! AT ANY TIME!!! I mean grifters will grift. What has changed?

SenseiRaheem

Here we go again! Get out the mittens and the boots, boys! IT’S WINTER TIME AGAIN

YoungBassGasm

Imma say it. So many of y'all bought the top during this cycle, not knowing Jack shit about the 4 year cycle. It does this EVERY TIME. Now that it's going into it's traditional bear market period, everyone is crying trump. Its done this during every damn presidency. It's not Trump's fault you are losing money. You're lack of research, understanding, and fomo is the reason you are getting fucked. I sold right after peak and am now buying. We will hit the bottom of the bear somewhere in October. You guys are impatient and naive little kids. The noobs learn their lessons every cycle. Been in BTC since 2013. You have to earn this shit. Next cycle, I hope the noobs cry whatever president is in office because blaming Trump for all of your life's problems speaks to how weak your conviction is.

etymoticears

I folded in 2020 and still regret it. I AM NOT SELLING THIS TIME

HistoricalRock7146

I saw Bitcoin drop from $20K to $4K. I bought more. I saw it drop from $60K to $18K. I bought more. I saw Bitcoin drop from $104K to $80K. I bought more. Everyone I could have sold thinking “this is the end”. Every time I would have been wrong. I’ve heard “Bitcoin is dead” so many times I’ve lost count. And it’s literally ALWAYS gone higher. So the questions to ask are… 1. What is the likelihood that this time is the end of Bitcoin, but all the other times were wrong. 2. If it is the end, and you sell, what are you doing with that money. How much is it worth now? 3. And if it isn’t the end, and in 3/6/9/12/18 months it’s back to an ATH before going parabolic again… is knowing that you missed out on that worth it? That’s why many of us are ride or die - because we’ve seen this story before and EVERY TIME holding was the best move (other than timing the market perfectly, selling at the top and re-buying at the bottom). Diamond hands. No regrets. I look forward to looking back to all these posts / news articles saying “Bitcoin is dead because a fake rumour implied someone who can’t even spell properly wrote one of the most complex mathematical computer programs in history”. Sure. 👌

SuitAndTiePorn

That was November 2022. We are currently in February. We have A LONG TIME before we reach November in this downturn

Human-Contribution16

SAME here. In a good position now. TIME! If you bought with anything other than a commitment to a time frame in years - one will just be a nervous wreck. Set it and forget it (and dca if you have the stomach and cash).

Previous-Piano-6108

When the price is setting a new ATH every few weeks, I reduce my DCA and bank money to invest when it drops When the price drops to half the ATH, it's TIME TO BUY fill those bags baybeeee

Acceptable-Date-2

It is unfathomable that this still isnt evident after all these cycles, after all these years.... but it is literally great news for the LTH who distributes in the bull markets and accumulates in the bear market, EVERY SINGLE TIME. It is the definition of good news. It is not the sign of failure, no, but it IS the sign of disinterest. Usually the general public avg Joe chaser who buys within 90% of the top and then capitulates once they are down 30-70%, only to watch it turn on them several months later, rinse and repeat. (Although many of these guys learn their lesson and then go on to be that guy accumulating/distributing at more opportune times.) The long term investor in here saying that this is great news, is very likely to be the guy selling portions of his accumulated total as the price moves above their cost basis and then using that acquired USD to increase the BTC they hold to new levels. At some point, as with most things, this may cease to be true. But I wouldn't take it to the bank that that time is now.

ZannyNanny23

I think it's mostly retaliation and we are seeing the breaking of the financial system and I'm holding the things that are supposed to be made for that and the new system I think it's gonna be a few months. But I do believe in crypto Bitcoin self custody and ditch the bank, the teller so hold stable coins in self custody I order my my stuff on line ALL I NEED IS A WAY TO PAY FOR GASS DIGITAL EVERY TIME , and I'll be good till then I'm holding for a long term cuz I don't see how this doesn't jus grow with online AI now gonna be using tokens ... We got new laws coming ... ALOT CAN HAPPEN !!!!! custody

j4_jjjj

Saylor bout to dilute....ONE MORE TIME!

Vegetable-Rabbit7503

Instead of waiting for a DIP, buy today and start accumulating TIME IN THE MARKET.

ZannyNanny23

im thinking that we will get a alt season, i know that its gonna get worse the gov is gonna shut down this week and its gonna be a VERY GOOD TIME TO BUY. just gotta wait it out.. mite be months just expect it and buy the dip to lower ur cost aver. HODL IS NOW.

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Argyrus777

I missed the opportunity to receive double what I send. It was a ONE TIME OFFER

Every_Hunt_160

A frenzy between scammers, idiots and THE GREATEST RUGGER OF ALL TIME !!

ButterscotchAlive736

Lacks accuracy? It’s enough accuracy for me to live from it fulltime for several years. Enough accuracy for me to make multiple 7 figures. And like I said in the very beginning I can prove everything that I claim. You keep going back to “predicting in an hour” or “predicting without reacting” Me saying it has a high chance of it going to 70k (if we get these confirmations) has nothing to do with what the price will be in an hour. All it means is the sellers will start taking control of the market, there will be more sell pressure, and the next level where buyers are waiting for is at 70k. It can reach 70k in days, weeks or month. I dont care about WHEN. I care more about its market sentiment of dropping, of sellers being in control. And when it does reach 70k, I’ll be looking for bullish confirmations before I DCA to make sure that buyers are taking control of that level and sellers are losing momentum. Do you understand that it’s PRICE BASED reaction and not TIME BASED? Im not trying to predict volume which is impossible to do. Im reacting to seller’s and buyer’s sentiment and make a decision from it. You asking me “price in an hour” is PREDICTING. Not REACTING. 😮‍💨

nunya-beezwax-69

Except it’s not. If the top is in than it’s literally followed the same length of the previous 2 cycles down to the week. Mf’ers will see btc play out exactly as predicted and be like “THIS TIME is DIFFERENT yo!”

Human-Contribution16

TIME makes todays peak become tomorrows low.

FnAardvark

LAST TIME M2 WENT UP BITCOIN FOLLOWED!!!! *fart noises* Every predictor works, until it doesn't, and then people cling to the next one as if it mattered. If anyone could predict price movements, they'd be filthy rich, and not posting this garbage on reddit.

nugymmer

Happened in 2022. Will happen here too. No one wants to believe it’s a bear market. Oh and this fucken business cycle bullshit, when the hell has that ever affected crypto bear markets? It never worked in 2014 or 2018. Why would one be so stupid to think that THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT? It’s NOT.

nugymmer

I’ll throw in even more. It’s just a fucken dead cat bounce. All timed perfectly. February 2022 saw prices edge up so we are ON TIME for the 47 month cycle. Nothing to see here. Move on. Sell on this sucker’s rally or continue to bleed. Up to you.

Glittering-Hurry-902

Download the Phantom app buy some solana then buy $MADAZE. Just hit its ALL TIME LOW! Based on social media.. today it moves again. Don’t be late 🌞🙏

Creative_Cat_322

I like to ask the scammers if they want my seed phrase, they get SO excited when they think it will be that easy. Jokes on them, I lost most of my holdings in the TIME/Wonderland debacle. I can't believe they haven't made a movie out of that story yet.

starbythedarkmoon

My kyc exchange got hacked, this happens ALL THE TIME. Now real dangerous people know where I live, my ids, social security #, my financial history and my life is much less safe. The phishing scams are never ending. This is because of kyc.  Meanwhile any transactions i have in an anonymous fashion end there. I could loose that transaction, but my home and my person are safe.

BrutalTea

First off, i want to say, you're fine. If you truly dont need the money. You haven't "lost $2k". that is loser normie mindset. SHOULD you have DCA'd whatever buying power you had into Bitcoin? and divided it up by 5 or 10. and bought bitcoin over 5 or 10 weeks, sure. That would have been smarter. But we're here now. Do you walk into a strip club and give the first stripper you see $10k? your whole band? no. you dont. you give one stripper $500 and then another $250. Second. you shouldn't be buying bitcoin for a quick flip. you should be buying bitcoin for 5 to 10 years from now. otherwise, you should be buying 2 year bonds or some shit. The road to riches is paved with losers. If you could get rich quick doing it, everyone would do it. It takes TIME and Dedication to build something up. my advice. Start DCA part of your paycheck into BTC every week. watch your average price go down the more you buy over time. WHILE ALSO adding to a HYSA for emergencies. Watching that money build and grow will feel GOOD, the OPPOSITE of the feeling about "losing $2k on btc" and you can use that money for a treat or emergency or whatever. good luck. Learn bitcoin. read the white paper. buy more. diamond hand. or burn like the other paper hands. i dont care. its not my job to educate you on bitcoin, nor anyone else.

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Full-Commercial7538

You obviously do nit get ut !! I bought at the all time high of 2018 at 18000$ and then accumulated at 3800$ and now have 5 full bitcoin & i likley would not have spent that type of money or may have sold if I started at 3800 & then it went to 20gs !! I learned alot from not only holding but through 70% corectikn. It taught me alot about money with over 10000 hours spent on finance i have over 30 ethereum average around 1500$ likey if not lower and bitcoin average likley a little higher than my 1st entry at 18g i have had alot of time over the previous 7 years to buy in at 5g & 1pg and 16g and even bought a little when we fell to 80g recently. IM FINANCIALLY FREE ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE HIT A MILLION & THEN ALL NUMBERS BECOME A ROUNDING ERROR AS EACH SPOT WILL EVENTUSLLY RUN OUT OF SELLERS. Bitcoin does not need alot of buyers it really just needs to run out of sellers now as the halving make such a small supply increase !! CONGRATS & PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU DUMB TILL THEY START ASKING YOU HOW TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE !!

biba8163

XMR has UNLOCK_TIME (transaction) and BTC has OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY (address). I've used both and they work without issues. I've used BTC time locks extensively and with enough confidence that I locked some until 2037.

Unusual_Stick3682

Just fricken Google it dude. "WHAT TIME DOES BTC DAILY CANDLE CLOSE"

kironet996

So, now I know where all the "stock market just hit ATH" nonsense come from... *DJT "Truth"Social:* >*STOCK MARKET JUST HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH!!! When will the Fake Polls show that I am doing a great job on the Economy, and much more??? Thank you!*

Apprehensive-Car6389

https://preview.redd.it/tdkcgt2f2k6g1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e4c8ea517b21752e4de46ccf455bba0fc785762 EVERYONE RUN UP MOODENG FOR THE HOLIDAYS. IF WE ALL BUY AND SELL AT SAME TIME WE CAN BE RICH

hoff4z

It has to start somewhere. 8 years ago crypto was a speck of dust. Barely any trustworthy wallets, barely any working chains. A lot of the tech has been built out.  It takes TIME for something to work properly. There will be use cases in the future no one can even see right now. What we see as a trend is just that… what we see. Our scope is small & limited. 

Academic_Attorney996

This is market manipulation. Let see: every time Saylor's annoucement on Monday, they dump. EVERY F\*CKING TIME. They sell Bitcoin like they selling their hot wife to someone. Next, Friday, they dump because they know people getting their paycheck on that day and buy, afterward around 2pm on Friday, they dump.

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dasmonty

This picture screams: SHOPPING TIME!

Shittey_Grammer_Nazi

I swear to God I feel so conflicted I want it to drop lower so I can buy it cheap, but then if it rises I will have wasted an opportunity and so I settle on buying now; only to see it actually dip even further right under my damn nose. AND what keeps happening is a few months later I will find myself wondering...the.same.Thing."Will it drop lower this time?" And what if it jumps back up? now I've missed my chance.. THE LAST TIME , so I just settle on buying half now, and buy more later , But it just goes back up!??! so now I'm like fuck it I will buy the other half now and settle on the current price .. and months later I notice the price has virtually been the same, and I ask myself : will it drop lower? or should I buy it now like always? NOT THIS TIME! This time Im going to set a limit order Right below the current price and one more, incrementally lower than the first order, cus DCA plus If they both fill I'll know it's definitely ***buy or die*** and I'll definitely for sure know when to buy mo- it never fills. Eventually These two limit orders are so long and forgotten that I no longer live in a reality where Im able to even recognize that I was ever in possession of said money; until I see a click bait article of Bitcoin reaching a new all time high, superceding the previous record by like 5 cents or some shit, and me being me I finally decide to check on the exchange and within 5 seconds I'm convinced we have entered a new stage of Lows, where BTC has finally cemented its gains and the opportunity to buy Low.....is now. It's pricey but there's two unfilled orders I could just cancel and reinvest right now. *So I settle on buying now*....Lo' and behold 2 weeks after the purchase, BTC dips down to a price that would have filled both limit orders. Fuck.

churito69

Someone actually did this recently. A BTC whale purchased 10,000 BTC for $1.54 (probably March 2011) each and sold it for $1 billion on Oct. 4th 2025. Also in July (2025), another whale cashed out $8Bln he paid $80,000 for around the same time. There are some of these guys out there.....holding for a crazy TIME.

Full-Commercial7538

I did that in 2018 & 22 & am still putting every penny into it. The only time stacking sats does not matter is if they put a hard cap on fiat ! EVERY BTC BILLIONAIRE SAW ATLEAST 5 ALL TIME HIGHS & DROPS OF 70% AFTER AND HELD WERE HIGHLY REWARDED !!!

biba8163

Leon will be a bagholding for eeons > ALL-TIME HIGHS expected for February 2025! 🔥 (February 4, 2025) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1886796125107322961 > As the #ETH balance drops sharply, scarcity is tightening even more than Bitcoin's. All-time highs will come sooner than most expect! (February 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1757119412904050794 > 📈 If this trend continues, expect much, much higher Ethereum prices. (November 2024) > Supply squeeze incoming. > BULLISH.🚀 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1860996379243692157 > 135K ETH burned since the Merge.🔥 (October 2024) > Everyone still underestimates how bullish this is for #ETH when the real bull run kicks in.📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1847676543310713067 > Odds seem high that the bottom for #ETH is in! 📈💪 (August 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1820456771783360850 > - The #ETHEREUM SUPPLY CRISIS is getting more SERIOUS by the day. (August 2024) > - With staking rates soaring and exchange reserves plummeting, as soon as sellers are exhausted and demand increases, #ETH will fly!📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1829151012428628402 > The market still doesn't grasp how scarce #ETH truly is. (August 2024) > Just imagine what happens if demand picks up even slightly — ETH will melt faces!🔥 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1823037542062793069 > With the imminent trading start of the #ETH ETF, institutional interest is set to rise. (July 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1810943563641016835 > - ETH is becoming SCARCER than BTC. (July 2024) > - ETH Exchange Balance: 10.189% 📉 > - BTC Exchange Balance: 15.086% 📈 https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1809923770821267878 > Most investors still don't realize how tight the ETH supply side is and how big the effect of the ETF will be! (July 2024) https://x.com/LeonWaidmann/status/1813102955874382043

Mediocre-Age-1729

Imagine kids growing up these days have the potential to never physically touch a dollar bill or piece of gold. You can have a job with direct deposit, then pay all bills online, use credit/debit cards or phone to make purchases. So the only real equalizer for the majority of the population is time. If you live in a cashless environment everything comes down to how much is deposited into your account based on the time you spent at your job. Those numbers and decimal points may as well mean minutes and hours. And how do they reward this pattern...with paid TIME off. Literally just had this conversation at work. On the other hand I saw a mem recently that went something like this "It's times like these that I'm grateful for diversifying my investments in stocks, bitcoin, and gold so I can lose money 3 different ways"

Every_Hunt_160

Stop spreading fake news CRAMER HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY PROVEN TO MISS 100% OF THE TIME !!