WHEN

Elemental_Breakdown

I knew ONE guy who went all in on bitcoin in the early years. Maybe year 2-3. He sold everything he owed including his car and moved back home with his mom so he could commute to work on a bicycle. Cashed out his teacher's pension and took out loans. Pretty sure he would have blown a donkey for a Benjamin. So he got his stack and THEN WHEN IT CRASHED he stuck by it and took out more loans. He now lives in Thailand, retired with millions. But the sad part is that he refuses to cash out more than about $30k so his tax bracket is the lowest. No woman or love interest. Lives in a basement apartment in some dump in Thailand. No kids. Says he has some ex-pat pals but he doesn't drink so I guess he is just sipping kombucha and still is the same depressed, anxiety attack, panic stricken, cheapass loser he was before the millions. I tried being pals with him for decades but he refuses to do anything to help me learn about btc except telling me to read books. So, the moral of the story is being fabulously wealthy just makes you more of what you already are, and you can be happier than an OG bitcoin bro without investing another dime. Don't chase just money, chase passion for life.

Otherwise-Trifle892

WHEN Bitcoin hits 1 Million dollars it will be a great milestone. But that's all it will be, the mission stays the same. Stack SATS and store my economic energy into a pure store of value.

BraidRuner

#WHEN Not if

gilmeye

I wonder WHEN the big seven will buy BTC

SilenceYous

Its just a law of nature, you can't create those numbers out of nowhere. Its not IF, its WHEN will the music stop and leave the ones stuck holding the bag. You can't be that... naive.

JohnBITbigcoin

You ok ?? Crypto is the best performing asset in history, the get rich over night people lose , it's in everything not just crypto , I been trading & investing in crypto since 2017 a d do not think anywhere other than half mil in voyager/Celsius losses , Every actual project invested in has yielded over 6 mil in now high yielding defi . YOU CAN GET 1500% RETURNS IN SOME DEFI , MY QUESTION IS WHY USE SACINGS ACCOUNTS WHEN SUI , UNISWAP , AERODOME, VELODROME FINANCE RETURNS 10-150000% APY ???

Bruteboris

BTC is going nowhere. 1 BTC is still 1 BTC. Liquidity around BTC is inflating of deflating. The only thing you see is the amount of that WHEN you would trade/ exchange it for BTC at THAT moment in time. In the future more and more of that has to be traded to get the same amount of BTC. First it was a pizza, now it’s 10x a Boeing 737 Max

Remarkable-Ride8820

You dumbass, covered calls limit your upside potential. Not if, but WHEN Bitcoin goes up significantly you will "lose" your Bitcoin by being forced to sell your stocks. The risk of assignment you're referring to is only low because the market says it's low. The moment an unexpected upswing comes the risk of assignment goes up exponentially.

AlwaysMooning

Bitcoin will be fine WHEN XRP goes

Obvious-Shop3274

NOBODY IS SAYING BUY RIGHT NOW BUT YOU SHOULD BUY WHEN EVERYBODY IS AFRAID AND IF IT FALLS BELOW YOUR ENTRY DCA UNTIL EVRything is plus

GrumpyScroogy

No it wont. Stop being delusional and childish. Comments like this show 0 understanding of markets. Why i godsname would BTC decouple from the stock market, WHEN ITS ONLY GETTING MORE INTEGRATED INTO IT? Companies as bitcoin proxy (Mara, MSTR, GME etc) Lets not even start about the ETF inflows. Naive.

LadyBird1281

And WHEN you tell them, for their own benefit, all they do is downvote you to oblivion! Someone make it make sense. Five years from now, we'll see the "how come NO ONE TOLD ME!" posts. 🤦

Dbestinvest

WHY was Bitcoin created?? WHEN was Bitcoin created?? That is the answer to your question

A_Birde

Yeah but when it goes up, WHEN it will fucking explode upwards a green dildo so large that it will blot out the sun. Thats why I am longing ETH

Tim-Rocket

(2/2) Which means, locking part of the supply does not prevent anything, on the contrary. It lures you with a false sense of safety. When, in reality, it is a big flashing sign that spells "THIS TOKEN'S VALUE IS GOING TO BE DILUTED OVER TIME, LIKE WHEN GOVERNMENTS GO <<MONEY PRINTER GO BRRR>> TO LATER GIVE THAT MONEY TO A PRIVATE PARTY BUUUUT, WITHOUT ALL THE CIRCUS AND MIDDLEMEN" >Maybe gradual unlocks instead of cliff vesting Same stuff. >Better ways to spot the sketchy projects before they blow up How? There's no way of telling except in hindsight. >Something that makes on-chain data actually make sense to normal people I mean, it always does, they just need to learn how that crypto (be it a blockchain or a graph) works. Like, I can't make sense of letters if I don't know how to read. TL;DR: You can't, only they who control the supply can. Memecoins just be like that. So, seriously, mint your own token, and manage it the way you feel it's the most legit one. Being the dev is the ONLY way to 100% prevent a rugpull from a dev. Anything else (even sniping) is just gambling you'll be able to pull before most of the rest of the gamblers. You can even try finding a token with a fun and friendly community, getting a nice chunk of the supply, and keep building upon that community. But, the possibility of bigger and earlier investors rugging you won't go away unless you become the bigger and earlier investor. (Could happen, burning tokens is a thing). Phew, what nice wall I built today. Anyway, have a good one!!

Gamora89

First rule of the fight club YOU ONLY LOSE WHEN YOU SELL DUDE ,

soFinished

eth down bad right now, but i believe max pain is in. You may not realise now but WHEN eth recovers, the strong coins on it's chain (Kendu) will also recover. This is your time to find coins like this and buy to actually make some decent money. These are the times where 100-1000x oppurtunities are present. However, if you wait too long, the most you'll be able to find is 10x, speed is key here.

Odd_Welder_1841

I think numbers are irrelevant because numbers varirs from person to person because 1 needs 100k another needs 10M but persobaly me and probably most of wage slaves wouls sell WHEN: could pay off house mortage + live comfortable till im still alive without everyday labor 9-5.

Salt-Double-3867

Hello guys I need a USDT RECIEVER PLEASE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU 40% WHEN ITS DONE

Chimera_Ant

"No coin is "owed" a break of ATH" \-I agree "Thats not how this works" \-it is exactly how it works. 100billion premined XRP.  All existed on chain and moved wallets multiple times. THEY WERE IN CIRCULATION AND STILL ARE. They are just locked in escrow. What is stopping them from selling the Wallets that receive the un-escrowed coins? Nothing. "XRP has no business" \-Any coin can be a store of value. The only reason BTC has the SOV as its main reason for existence is because it failed at its original goal, peer to peer transactions. Ever heard of the internet of value?? "Seems like XRP is tied to ripple then and is more of a fintech than decentralised consensus" \-not sure what your trying say here. Yes XRP is tied to Ripple its one of the biggest positives of XRP. "Why is it in the best position?" \-because of its backing by Ripple the organisation and its integration with the finance world. Ethereum is a shit coin compared to XRP WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCE AND THE TRANSFER OF VALUE. "Sol, Hbar, plenty of other more efficient coins aren't anywhere near XRP value" \-That is because they do not have a company like Ripple behind them or many years of work put into integrating with tradfi. "Then why is there almost no adoption" \-The SEC case did not help, The Maxi nonsense does not help, The previous administration didn’t help, The fear and Protectionism from the current financial system didn’t help. But XRP is still here trying. "Priced in" \- not if the end result is a retraction of the fine and injunction "Means nothing if no one adopts it." \-I agree. $232billion is not nothing so far. "U trust trump to pump ur bags" \-no

Historical-Kale-2765

That's the point you IQ ninja, that it is not about a clear time frame. a safety deposit is broken WHEN YOU NEED IT. Not when you want it. Otherwise you are just aggressively investing without a safety deposit.

Ok-Image1782

The economy was in a bubble since the 40's ...the commercial real estate and housing markets are trash AUTO MARKET TRASH... swindlers and thieves have been selling out the American people since the creation of the FED.. TAKE THE DOLLAR OFF OF GOLD.. Blockchain adoption will help correct the manipulation of fiat currency while giving the overlords a new toy to manipulate. expect volatility as the old system is done away with and the new system goes online one piece at a time... Crypto is quite literally a digital prison ESPECIALLY WITH STABLECOINS.. I'm just glad to be a part of the early stages and blessed to be given the opportunity to make money... Right now is quite literally the easiest time to make money.. any of the top crypto at a discount and wait... I THINK BLAMING TRUMP FOR SOME SHORT TERM DISCOUNTS IS HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST BECAUSE WHEN BLOCKCHAIN GOES PARABOLIC AND ADOPTED INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.. NO ONE WILL GOVE HIM CREDIT AND PROBABLY FIND SOMETHING MEANINGLESS TO BITCH ABOUT ..

ReadyFlatworm7587

Has everyone forgotten what had happened with the past two recessions? The reason Bitcoin was created... Quantitative Easing. WHEN the recession kicks in full blast, we will see a big drop in BTC and all things. BUT, when the Fed steps in to 'rescue' the economy with more printing... watch what recovers the fastest. Fyi... look at what gold did in Oct. 2008, at the onset of the Great Recession. Then, look what it did literally ONE MONTH later when they printed. With govt debt at these levels, they can't afford the interest payments. Wouldn't surprise be if they 'engineer' a recession (especially after just creating the first 'Bitcoin Reserve.') Shiyit... they could pay down a good chunk of that debt if they play it right.

No-Lavishness4865

"POST RESERVE SELLING" should subside. The question is more WHEN rather than IF https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/10/bitcoin-falls-as-volatility-continues-after-trumps-bitcoin-reserve-plan.html Timing this is nearly impossible We can simply sift through the "tea leaves" looking for clues. Like: - 200 dma (83 200) - negativism - sovereign purchases - ETF capitulation Etc. Still HODLing 😁

IllustriousBuilding9

Get in early? Why? BC IT’S CHEAP, WHY BUY WHEN IT’S HIGH. Accumulate while it’s low

Low_Answer_6210

You’re unbelievably stupid. Bitcoin rallied when it was announced trump won the election. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LOOK AT THE CHART AND FIND ME A POINT WHEN BITCOIN WAS HIGHER BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT TRUMP WON. FKN MORON.

StonyIzPWN

I think most of the pumps happen WHEN Saylor starts buying. He's moving bricks.

Obvireal

DO NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU WHEN TO BUY OP. You should be when you are ready. If you think 93k is a good price then send it. Don’t get left behind waiting for a 30% dip when it can rip upwards at anytime. We may see $50k-$80k bitcoin again, we may not ever. Why risk it when we know it’s going up forever.

fistfucker07

LMAO. Just a different version of what I wrote. Thanks for the laugh though. Btc doesn’t DO anything. It don’t succeed at a single thing in the white paper. And the goal posts have been moved as wide as possible to try to catch reasons to invest in it. Not one token has been allowed to function in the financial sector yet. Once they are, yes something will 100% dethrone btc. It’s not an IF. It’s only WHEN

Klutzy_Beyond_9206

Buy WHEN YOU HAVE SPARE MONEY and WAIT for when you need money to sell It's really not that hard

nugymmer

Most crypto is a scam. And anything is a "scam" unless you make a shit ton of money on it. Then for some strange reason it's suddenly legitimate. Those who lose money on it will call any crypto a "scam" even BTC if you lose a lot by buying high and selling low. It's all about when to buy and WHEN TO SELL.

derbyfan1

If you have read the Bitcoin standard, you would have come across ' Verify, dont trust'. Ledger said they dont store your seed, but later went back on that. Being the critical thinker I am, I would not be surprised if ledger store your seed regardless of you signing up to that back up BS. On that basis, they become a 'trust me bro' wallet. I have noticed there are alot of Ledger loyalists on this and other forums. **WHEN** and not if, there is a leak of Ledger seeds, it wont be a black swan, rather an inevitability. TLDR Never a ledger, forever a Trezor.

jsands7

I’m so tired of hearing ‘RUG PULL!!!’ ANYBODY WHO BUYS THESE THINGS IS FUCKING AROUND AND GAMBLING, HOPING TO NOT BE THE ONE HOLDING THE BAG WHEN IT DUMPS NOBODY THINKS THESE ARE ACTUAL INVESTMENTS

BraidRuner

Correct answers only please..this is TECHNICALLY CORRECT which as we know is the best kind of correct.Only this left to is to KNOW WHEN 1 satoshi is a dollar

Ill-Gur-8854

Also.. don't just invest whenever YOU feel.. have to wait it out look at the chart wait for it to go lower then buy buy buy.. would suggest buying few waiting buying more.. or.. NOW BUY MORE WHEN IT DROPS.. SO WHEN IT GOES BACK UP YOUR TRYING TO RECOUP THE MONEY BACK LEARN to hold nomatteer what your investing stocks and crypto red and green days.. as long as you've done your DD what made you invest in this to begin with?

chewiedev

All of those coins are gambles. They may all pay off, but maybe you should have put some money into a few safer bets. Just saying that you should expect to lose on some of these, you won’t be able to time all of them. Then we aren’t talking about WHEN you bought these. When you buy and at what price is the most important since you are most likely a trader and not an investor ( I don’t hear that you are regularly investing in these because you think holding them is better than holding USD or a bond) I feel like you are asking people at the casino next to you what you should do? I wouldn’t recommend this. But some of us can certainly identify with the fear of watching your bag holdings drop below what you invested. I would research a coin that can be more stable, to prop up some of these bets, but that’s just me. You do you. Good luck

SevereArrivals

Lol let them stay on the sidelines if they wish to The tokenomics and the growth of the sub are transparent for all to see and make their own opinion based on it. A major MOONs pump is literally not a question of IF but WHEN as the constant buy and burn pressure only increases with the growth of the sub and the number of MOONs only gets lower

MuzzleblastMD

It is still in the speculative phase. I do believe that adoption is coming. It’s not a matter of IF, BUT, WHEN!

Ziegler517

They have other things to worry about (especially politically) than considering a blockchain financing transition. WHEN things settle down, it will go back up.

bfeeny

25% of the total US debt of $25 Trillion was accumulated in the last 6 months. You should be more concerned about a strategy for WHEN the US Dollar fails, which is imminent.

T-Shurts

This is the only answer. The biggest question in regard to this is, WHEN THE FUCK will that actually happen?

Training-Pipe-4726

I’ll break down the math for you and you decide if it’s worth it or dumb. Let’s say bitcoin hits the price you’re targeting, 120k. That’s a 25% increase over your entry point of 96k. Apply a 25% increase to your invested amount of 3k and you have a profit of $750. Now WHEN and IF bitcoin reaches 120k this cycle is of course still debated. Simply put even if it does hit 120k you are not going to be buying that lambo with 3k invested.

gameison007

Maybe I'm wrong here, BUT MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IF TRUMP DOES GET A NATIONAL RESERVE OF BITCOIN THE ONLY WAY HE CAN GET HIS HANDS ON IT IS WHEN PEOPLE SELL IT AND THEY HAVE TO PAY CAPITAL GAINS TAXES ON IT AND THAT HE WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX ON IT. I DON'T TRUST TRUMP 🧐🤔

OverallHearing5

YouTube: YOULL CRY WHEN WE HIT 80 million dollars

LegendaryJohnny

What do you mean? This was nothing. Too risky to short now. I am talking about Solana falling 30% for multiple days each day. Its not IF it is WHEN. Save my comment - Solana will go back to $20 dollar range at some point.

derbyfan1

A Ledger is fantastic as long as you disregard the bit in the whitepaper, where Satoshi mentions 'Trust - Not Verify.' As long you can trust Ledger with your seed, you will be fine. I think Satoshi made a mistake when he made the aforementioned quote. On a more serious note, I will add this; WHEN Ledger seeds are hacked or leaked, it WONT be a black swan. Rather an inevitability. Be safe than sorry. NeverALedgerForeverATrezor.

Beneficial_Trifle529

LOL WHEN U THOUGHT U BOIGHT THE DIP n this happens 

Shadow_throne2020

Tell him not to throw in a large sum of money right now, but rather learn to SDCA (scaling dollar cost average). Start doing five dollars a week to get used to it. If and when the price goes down slightly and you're feeling spicy supplement it with another 5-10$ purchase. WHEN it gets bricked again, probably mid to late Q1 2025 then he can put a lump sum in. Continue to DCA but when it gets to its new low and as it descends you can increase your weekly amount. If you get bonus cash for any reason during it's low season you can toss in bigger lump sums of money. In it's next growth cycle you can start to REDUCE your dca amount in proportion to it's ascension. In it's next bull run or halving cycle you will shit your pants at the results. well, that is what I've done word for word and I'm pretty fucking happy about it right now. Good luck.

Salty-Air-5708

$WHEN correction?

Darkhart89

Not only that but WHEN they issue more stock to sell, you end up with MORE Bitcoin per share. Because that stock is selling for MORE than the bitcoin per share. They take the $$ from the sale and buy more bitcoin with it than the current bitcoin per share so EVERYONE’s Bitcoin per share goes up.

KeyPut6141

Lets say you think a stock will fail you short it. It takes 5 years before it crashes to your target. Well for those 5 years youve been taking 5% interest on your short position with a total of 28% of interest paid to the bank. If your target was a 30% drop well you made 2% on that trade. Its not a smart trade considering the risks. When you think something will fail, the best move is just not buying it Shorting is for when you think you can predict WHEN the price will fall, not IF

BigStuggz

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN MSTR INFILTRATED 401k’s?!?!

Fun-Ad-5571

Correct. WHEN it starts crab walking I will resume DCA. Until then I’ll lump sum my pay each month.

El_Flaco_666

One thing to consider is that all coins don't fire upwards at once. Money rotates from coin to coin, and especially narrative to narrative. If you've picked a decent portfolio, just be patient and wait until each one gets its moment. TAKE PROFIT WHEN IT DOES. It's tempting to watch one coin go 100% overnight and sell everything to chase it, but that's the quickest way to lose.

The_Nothing00

That's the thing. Nobody knows WHEN they are gonna die, unless you get a diagnosis of stage 4 cancer. You could just die in a random traffic accident at any time or suffer from sudden stroke or cardiac arrest.

dwu1977

I have been through the peaks and valleys for the last 6 years. The MOST important advice I can offer, from my own experience. DO NOT SELL WHEN IT DROPS SUDDENLY AND OFTEN. You will never make it up when you always buy back in.

TheFudge

WHEN it drops just HODL don’t freak out and sell. Keep on DCA buying and it will pay off.

allthingsoops

You people got to knw WHEN TO SMELL A RAT. The minute this air head female got involved in crypto I knew she was gonna rug pull.

Cjolliff7

You should never sell anyways UNLESS you need the money… you should only be stacking. Slow dca during bull run. WHEN it crashes not if… then you buy the dip you fuckers. With everything you got! ALL IN! Fiat < Bitcoin JUST HODL N check price in 2032.

muttadile1

I WAS HERE WHEN r/CRYPTOCURRENCY WAS SUNSETTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now we can all look back and laugh

sIeepyninja

TBH dips occur at random times, and it's best not to wait for them. Trying to get the perfect timing is essentially impossible, because with a Time Machine you could always get an even better price. Don't stress yourself out. Getting bitcoin at any price is a steal, considering how few people really understand bitcoin yet. Just focus on when you can NEXT buy MORE bitcoin, not WHEN you buy it. It's a game of accumulation, not timing.

RobNybody

You lot are amazing at losing money lol. BUY WHEN IT'S LOW. There are a thousand great coins that haven't pumped yet, but I'm sure you'll discover them too late.

heroinspazierer

at least you can find out WHEN it was active, just see the transaction log on any block explorer. If this does not match a possible time line of your activity, it's scam. I mean it's scam anyway, but just for you to confirm.

Zestyclose_Phase_645

I'm an estate planning attorney, and self-custody has A LOT of downsides that a lot of people ignore. What is your plan for transferring your coins WHEN you die or become incapacitated? It's not if, but when. You need to have someone in your life who is willing and able to manage your assets for you both while you are alive and after your death. Do you trust that person enough to give them they keys now, or at least know how to get them WHEN they need to? Do you have someone in your life sophisticated enough to take wallets out of cold storage on their own, or will they have to trust a third party to show them how to do it? Is your brother going to call some rando at Geek Squad to help, and hope that they don't swipe the coins and claim there was a "software error" or that the wallet was empty?

voice-of-reason_

No one is denying that tax is annoying, but being anti-tax isn’t the same as being pro-bitcoin. If all governments adopt bitcoin you think they will just suddenly stop tax? WHEN bitcoin wins, we will all still pay tax, happily, because we know the bitcoin we are paying tax in cannot be undermined by debasement and cannot be manipulated at a fundamental level. Bitcoin is a capitalist tool. Part of capitalism, or any ideology, is tax. Get used to it because Bitcoin won’t change that.

BamBoomWatchaGonnaDo

Oh, I tried sub-$10k to explain to family members that it wasn’t IF Bitcoin was going to break $20k, $100k, it was a matter of WHEN. Tried to explain the halving cycles, etc… Not one person listened. I do think we will get substantially more buyers in the next bear market compared to the last one.

Skotland85

Pull backs are healthy. You don’t want the Bitcoin price chart to look like a hockey stick since that’s not sustainable growth. Let it consolidate again and then you’ll be pleasantly surprised WHEN it happens. Patience

derbyfan1

"... but in real terms nobody has ever lost their keys due to Ledger stealing their seed" YET. WHEN there is a leak and Ledger seeds are compromised, it wont be a black swan event. Rather an inevitability. Prevention is better than cure - Never a Ledger, Forever a Trezor.

UrethreaFranklin1

WHEN 100k?!?

SenSw0rd

I really wouldn't mind a nice $800 Casita rental somewhere on property. I don't need "ownership" I need comfort and fun. The roi on BTC is INSANE. IF/WHEN Trump ushers in the crypto regulations, btc will nearly replace gold because of the roi.

derbyfan1

WHEN there is a leak of Ledger seeds, it wont be a black swan. Rather an inevitability. Great choice OP.

psybx

Fiat is certain to collapse. It's 100% in my mind. I can explain why, in my country (the UK). We have a whole bunch of promises made to old people (pensions and healthcare) that cannot possibly be kept in the years ahead. People are living much longer, having far fewer kids (we are well below the 2.1 replacement rate), and wages are stagnant. We are also importing people into this country at an enormous rate that is only going to accelerate this problem in the future. The state pension system in the UK will absolutely fail within my lifetime, and likely so will the healthcare system. The political cycle is such that no politician will admit this, or do anything about it. The only "solution" is continued massive currency debasement. We are already at peak taxes, so we can't really keep raising them as it's already strangling growth. The only thing that a government can do is borrow trillions more in debt to pay off the old loans and keep the old promises. It's like constantly borrowing on new credit cards to pay off the old ones and the grocery bill from last month. Fiat money is entirely a trust game. As people lose trust in the government the bond market will get spooked, demand higher and higher interest rates (this is what happened in Argentina) and then you end up in a full blown Weimar Republic crack up boom with assets going to the moon and fiat going to literal zero. We've been here so many times before. The western countries are not immune to this at all - we are following the exact same playbook and it ends the same way every time. When it happens you want to be holding hard assets. Whatever they are. Bitcoin, gold, silver, rare art work, magic the gathering playing cards (the expensive ones), fine wine, expensive brandy. It doesn't matter, just anything OTHER than the fiat paper money that is worth fuck all. Now we all think Bitcoin is the best thing to hold. But there will be nothing wrong with holding gold/silver and other hard assets too. Basically you just want something which cannot be debased and cannot be easily confiscated. The tricky bit is no one knows WHEN this happens. Could be next year. Could be 10 years from now. Could be 50. But it's coming one day...

SenSw0rd

WHEN, Trump adopts cryptocurrecy, the flood gates of unlicensed financial "trust me bros" crypto cpas will flood the market. Good ole government create a new job market, regulations, and education.

M1g3ruTrapKing

How much is necessary? You're dodging the most important question. WHEN is a tax too much?, How many taxes are too much? Obviously, we waste money which is exactly why we keep pointing that out. You agreeing with that doesn't tell me where you draw the line. And a line must be drawn. "They're necessary "........Sure. for basic services, infrastructure, and yes military. But they are too high. You don't need the amount of taxation Americans are suffering to provide these services, at least, if you're responsible with money. Lastly, the government isn't actually "funded" by taxes. If they were they couldn't "over spend" or rack up deficits. They can only do this because they control a Sovereign currency. In other words...... It's a charade performed from a bygone era when the government was actually restricted by tax collection. which means the public suffers inflation, over taxation, AND a lower income.

Koktkabanoss

Lol OFC WHEN I BUY IT DIPS 🤣

metahipster1984

The question is WHEN and how much of the current pump is due to this purchase lol

shivamgamer27

You’re absolutely right OP last time I didn’t sell jupiter, doge and bnb for the same reason and you know what it was a 10x leverage trade, everything was going fine but then I went to a campaign trip and couldn’t check my account, guess what my doge investment liquidated and profit percentage from other two was also lower than loss in doge. So NEVER BE GREEDY SELL WHEN YOU GET THAT FEELING

approvedraccoon

Thing is WHEN do you buy the all time high

originalrocket

All these women who enjoy money from simps trying to taunt us with their bodies. NUTTING WHEN I WANT!

Jenn2895

Absolutely will hit a $2T market cap. I personally don’t think it will hit that this cycle but def by 2030. DTCC is tokenizing the stock market. Swift is the messaging service for over 11k banks. Anz, JP Morgan, Citi, Mellon… BRICS, Central Banks, etc. The entire financial system is moving on chain. It’s the largest change to the financial system in over 50yrs… & link is critical infrastructure in that system. There will be Quadrillions flowing through CCIP every year… & that’s just as an Oracle. & Chainlink is more than an Oracle. Data Feeds will be used by the weather, gaming, gambling, insurance… everything that requires real time accurate data. Spend a little bit of time researching them. You can even use the news filter on Google & look up “Chainlink” + DTCC, Swift, Citi, etc etc. Also look up how many banks & large companies have already announced moving onto blockchain. It helps maybe if you look at Chainlink & CCIP as more of a tech company. $Link is the token used as gas fees for these transactions. Their team consists of top computer scientists & former Google execs. They have over 700 employees. They hold numerous patents. & already over 2k partnerships with major companies…. they also spent several years testing with these companies. The testing is over. They are now transitioning. So it’s no longer IF, it’s WHEN the switch flips.

juantam0d

Believe, brother! It's a question of "WHEN"

thetimsterr

Agreed about BTC continuing to appreciate (we all think so), but it's still an IF and WHEN. So if you wanted to pull the trigger and retire *today* as the OP asked, I do think you'd have to do some risk assessment of BTC volatility. If BTC is the only thing you hold and you have zero income from any other source, watching it plummet by 50% on a regular basis would have dramatic impacts to your lifestyle. You wouldn't want to sell when it's down. So what do you live on? Do you sell 6 months' worth of living expenses only when it's up? How do you know if that's enough? Most retirees don't want to worry about that, so you would turn your Bitcoin into bonds or something stable and live off dividends for decades. Now maybe you do something like 25% BTC and 75% income funds/bonds, and bet on rising BTC to act as a somewhat unstable income source every few years. But again, it's about managing risk when you retire. If you really think you could just pull the trigger and retire today with no source of income except selling off your BTC and hoping it appreciates faster than you need to sell, then I don't think that's very realistic. Not to mention incredibly stressful in downturns. I want my retirement to be as stress-free as possible.

SalvadorDalinian

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StephanCom

Yeah, I know, I’ve been in crypto since 2011 and have invested in at least one DAO, I can’t remember the name, I think the symbol was DRP. HOW it will be enabled is through a governance vote. WHEN it will be enabled is when that does not contravene the law, which I am interpreting to mean “if we enabled that now, it would be illegal because the SEC would call it an unlicensed security, but after daddy gets elected, he’s gonna fire Gensler and disband the SEC and then it’ll be legal because daddy says so.” At least that’s my read on it. It doesn’t say “on such and so date” or “X months after conclusion of the sale”, it says “when it’s legal.” Implying strongly that “it’s not legal now” Otherwise why not specify a date?

Depressed-gambler

WHEN WILL BITCOIN FINALLY HIT $100K?! I'm getting impatient.

BraidRuner

The monetary system is broken by deliberate design to benefit and enrich the banking class. Bitcoin fixes that permanently. Its not IF Bitcoin replaces reserve currencies its WHEN

Better-Sweet-66

Yet it still Fs over investors as it delays US adoption. I've traded XRP since 2017. NEVER LOST A CENT. In fact it was almost a life changing event. Until the SEC stepped in to "protect" me and got XRP delisted. This is just more BULLSHIT from the SEC. I am 100% behind crypto regulations. So SEC.. Do you ever plan to do your fucking job and set out clear regulations anytime soon or is it just keep Fing over the people you are supposed to be perdictiting? YOU THE SEC are harming investors like me. YOU not Ripple. I've just about had all the SEC "PROTECTION" I can afford. D O Y O U R D A M N J O B A N D R E G U L A T E !!! It's easy. Make NEW and clear regulations and put the US back in front instead of falling behind the rest of the world with regulations. Make it clear that you will go after organizations that break regulations. THAT'S WHEN YOU GO FOR THE MONEY. NOT FING NOW... Ripple want's regulations. XRP holdeders want regulations. Banks want regulations. Other nations have regulations in place pertaining directly to a new monetary asset that doesn't fit your outdated FUZZY guidelines. NOBODY WANTS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. NOBODY LOST MONEY BEFORE YOU STEPPED IN. This is the 2nd time you had a chance to show investors you are on our side yet once again instead of regulating you sued. Thanks... Thanks a ton for that. I REALLY hope someone cleans house at the SEC soon. Remember all those covid checks that went out? Too bad we don't have some new asset class that can be a source of taxes to offset all the money sent out. 15 billion+ dollars lost during the first lawsuit. You are going to lose and you know it. So you are just wasting time and a TON of money and potential taxes for what? Protection from a company and the crypto they use which had no victims....... WORST SEC management in US history... Rant over. Where's the Tylenol?

Clearly_Ryan

Yeah us Bitcoin holders really want dollars. That's all what this is about, getting more paper currencies in our portfolios because inflation is collapsing the value of currency everywhere. So we buy Bitcoin as a store of value while the dollar depreciates. Then when Bitcoin finally becomes scarce and universally accepted enough to be a competitor to paper currencies around the world, potentially ushering in a monetary protocol shift in how humanity stores its wealth, THAT'S WHEN WE GO BACK TO PAPER BABY!

Soggy-Welder2265

Going to be the richest men ever WHEN BTC hits 1,000,000

Cxycilio

Women; have ALWAYS HAD IT EASIER WHEN IT COMES TO PRISON SENTENCES!

kirtash93

Let's go to the point here. WHEN L1 gas fees fix?

Mean_Platypus_9988

YOU DON’T QUIT, WHEN YOU’RE HEGE! 

icedank

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derbyfan1

Yes thats correct. However, the mere fact that they have this, undermines the entire point of a hw wallet. There is a reason we say, Never a Ledger, forever a Trezor. As always; DYOR. But just remember, WHEN (not if) There is a Ledger hack and Ledger seeds have been compromised; it wont be a black swan event. Rather an inevitability.

Generationhodl

I don't know when Apple will really adopt Bitcoin, but WHEN they do it, they will act as they are the first inventor of a wallet that can hold bitcoin on a smartphone... And they will probably use it to sell a new iphone even more expensive because now it can bItCoIn

Funny-Arugula5816

"*⁠It has failed as a currency.* " It's like saying (prematurely) in 1993 that the internet has failed as movie streaming technology. Since 10 years now it has succeeded (look at all the streaming platforms: nobody downloads movies anymore: everyone streams them). In 1993 you had to wait a simple PICTURE to load in MINUTES: imagine a full movie. BTC as a currency can only be judged as such IF and WHEN it will be adopted by an wide enough number of people globally. It's its END STATE, not its START state. I personally am satisfied with its medium term store of value functionality. But I don't rule out the currency functionality just because TODAY it's not in a position to be that. "*Its volatility is extreme.* " That's its ADOPTION mechanism. If it had been invented by a government, the government would have imposed its adoption (top-down), and invested in its infrastructure: therefore, no need for independent adoption mechanisms. The state would have done everything (JUST LIKE THE INTERNET! Directly, or via subsidies to companies that built the infrastructure). In the absence of a government-driven adoption, the way BTC gets adopted is through booms (followed by cyclical busts) triggered by the halving, because that's the main thing that make the news and then incentivize those whoe read the news, so they are drawn towards it to adopt it as monetary technology that is not sponsored by the government nor headed by any other regular private organisation. To adopt this technology is, BY DEFINITION, to put money on the table. To adopt skype, you simply had to download the app for free, use it, and enjoy its telecommunication utility. To adopt a monetary technology is BY DEFINITION not something you do for free. The more utility you want to get from it (preservation or increase of value) the more you need to PAY (= INVEST). And so the **financial incentive** is the only and most effective adoption mechanism. It's a feature, not a bug. If and when the adoption is well spread across the population, its volatility declines (it's already happening) until it becomes much stabler and it CAN function as a currency and cash payment system, as originally designed (THE END STATE). "*Transactions are slow and expensive, and the transaction volume is inherently unscalable.* " Again, feature, not a bug. Also, this is a Layer 2 aspect. For the store of value/preservation of wealth functionality, you don't need SUPERfast scalable transactions (can you do that with gold? No. As a matter of fact, BTC is better than gold, from that perspective). Expensive? not true, it's quite often VERY CHEAP (you can move BILLIONS for virtually nothing). And then, as I said, for faster and less expensive transactions, you have Layer 2s. "Supplementary protocols like Lightning are fundamentally flawed. " Need to elaborate, because this is just a claim, not a demonstration. But even if, this is a very recent monetary technology with no governmental infrastructure support. It can definitely resolve whichever "flaw" is implied in this claim. "Usability for consumers is generally terrible." Same answer. Need to elaborate + very early stage with no public infrastructural support, time will tell, premature claim.

Maleficent_Sound_919

Its the same shit over and over ETH to new ATH ETH TO $1500 I MISS THE FUCKING DAYS WHEN CRYPTO WASNT A TURD FEST FULL OF BULLSHIT STORIES

CristoOfCrypto

I don't think its a matter of IF - but WHEN. Since 2008 banks have had a relatively easy time lending money which is not typical of any recessionary period. We will see when that changes how the market responds. My fear is that regular people lose their jobs and ability to earn while companies buy up crypto. Worst case scenario for humanity.

darkwavee

Don't listen to this bullshit, if you wanna make money buy market crashes when fear index is very low and bitcoin is not hovering around 60-70k where teenagers yelling it will be a million soon. Get some indicators on tradingview, learn them, at least basic ones so you know when to invest and when to enter market. For god sake please dont buy btc when its overbought or like at 60k only because someone said it will moon to 100k soon or more, even that, will give you only 2x at best. Certainly don't listen to advice check price in 2030 and close your charts, it doesn't work like that. A lot of thinks can happen and geopolitics too. BUY WHEN MARKET BLEEDS LIKE NOW and when BITCOIN is LOW like 20-30k levels, pack bags with alts and wait. ggz

MikedEACONYURMOUTH

Beside the fact that centralized exchanges (cex) are the complete antithesis of why crypto exists they all have failed thus far ..It’s not a matter of IF but WHEN will coinbase , a centralized exchange (cex) succumb to the same tragic end as every single other centralized exchange that has ever existed in the history of ever . Bar none . Self custody and dex are the true purpose of what bitcoin was made for.