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There has NEVER been a coin created by an unknown creator. This is just media trash that you’re swallowing without any research. Financial systems are built in TRUST. You can’t trust an unknown creator who holds 1million+ tokens and could release them at any time. Get your head out of your ass.
It all comes down to TRUST. Who do you choose to place your trust in? When you put money in a bank, you are choosing to trust: - the regulations and laws surrounding your money being safe there (FDIC insurance) - that the bank itself won't collapse - that the currency will be worth the same (+/- a reasonable or expected amount) as when you put it in - that if anything happens to you there are institutions and precisents built to handle your money in a way that interests you or your beneficiaries When you put money in crypto you are choosing to trust: - Yourself (if you chose self-custody) - The company you use to store your crypto (if not using self-custody) - That cryptocurrency itself will retain or increase its value Can you reasonably trust those factors MORE that with a bank? If you answer yes to all of them then you truly don't understand crypto and shouldn't be investing
You guys know about the coin app? You either walk, cycle or drive to "mine" the coins. Then you cam covert those coins to XYO and send it to TRUST WALLET. I lost about 20k of them after not logging in for 1.5years. So yeah. It sucks. NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR CRYPTO. Anyway, there are some benefits to keeping them in an exchange too. It really depends. Just wish the FTX shit wont happen again
I think starting from Monday, we'll see even more action on moons😎 for me, it is still unbelievable that we have this kind of support at $0.45 I mean, I knew they were going somewhere nice, but I couldn't really imagine what is happening ...and the better is yet to come, TRUST ME BROH🤟🏼 ![gif](giphy|K3s2C8zQ6qEu6YlFiq)
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This is what Ive been parroting for a while. Ultimately ITS ALL TRUST because even a hardware wallet has the capability of broadcasting your seed if a rogue developer or a hacker manages to upload a malicious update. These hardware wallets connect to your dirty pc via usb and they use a simple webpage to transact and update.
Your real world karma is really something today, huh? Feel better? Love the know it all nonsense in this market. Everything besides BTC/ETH ("BLUECHIPS, TRUST ME, BASED ON A WHOLE DECADE OF DATA! AND I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE...") is IOTA. The ego is hilarious. It all ends up the same!? LOL. You're such an OG with zero tunnel vision, and your wisdom had undoubtedly netted you unlimited riches. Have a great day.
That's what I have been trying to figure out. I wonder if Bitcoin exchanges have some sort of anti money laundering tactics in which they require you to deposit money into your wallet in order to withdraw from it. I've had two wallets tell me the same thing. TRUST wallet would not let me withdraw coins unless I deposit 2k. BITCOIN.COM wallet tells me same thing. A thing to note is that I have not provided any proof of identity to either wallet. The coin in the wallets are mining profits.
If u have some time, I highly recommend reading the official application of the **iSHARES® BITCOIN TRUST** (yepp, it's marked as a trust not ETF 😉) There are so many interesting topics like: • a possible BTC hard fork + the possible outcomes for the shareholder • the competition between BTC and CBDCs • risk factors related to regulation • the "The lack of full insurance" • the XRP / SEC security case is discussed in this paper • forms of attack against BTC etc. I highly recommend reading this, there are so many interesting topics. It's well written and easy to read. Here is the official application: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1980994/000143774923017574/bit20230608_s1.htm#:~:text=The%20Sponsor%20may%20also%20disagree,the%20Shares%20as%20a%20result.
Some people are in it "for more fiat", while others are just ignorant of what a permissioned network is in the first place. The intent of the post is to inform people that cryptocurrency should prioritize *permissionless* networks over other features. Decentralization is mentioned above all other features that encompass cryptocurrencies, yet decentralization by itself does not make a good cryptocurrency. For example, a CBDC is decentralized, but isn't something that should be promoted as a solution to any societal problem *because* it's a permissioned network... same as all the others in the OP. The name of the game is TRUST MINIMIZATION, not only decentralization.
Wow, it is so evident by these comments that even some of us need to STUDY BITCOIN! Alts are the Old Regime response to the BTC evolution. They are created with the goals of trying to disrupt TRUST among people. Bitcoin unite people, but people need to study it to understand it. Read the white paper again mate, try to understand WHY the whole process of decentralised money was created. Everything will be clearer when you’ll grasp the real reason behind Bitcoin: take power back.
>Open Source doesnt make any difference. False. >then there is a factore of TRUST and RISK with every solution. No shit, Sherlock. *"You you have to have faith in science so you might as well have faith in the most implausible stories about sky daddy"* Proprietary hardware is no where near as dangerous as software. Proprietary hardware can't magically connect itself to the internet. Notice that I intentionally never mentioned Trezor or Jade because that debate is nowhere near the same risk as closed source software.
Open Source doesnt make any difference. Unless YOU are building your own hardware, and YOU are writing your own firmware, then there is a factore of TRUST and RISK with every solution. Open source doesnt change that. Actually, could be even worse depending on how you look at it. With a proprietary manufacturer, I have to trust them as a company whose main purpose is to put out a successful product. With open source, I have to trust anonymous internet users that say they read the code, understand it all, and that it's totally safe. Additionally, with open source, the robe is fully open for anyone to comb through and find vulnerabilities and write hacks and exploits. This "open source madness" that has hit the community lately is starting to feel like Trezor shills trying to capitalize on the Ledger debacle.
If closed source wallets are a big no-no, then why has Ledger for the past years been unanimously agreed to be one of the safest devices to store your keys, while it ALWAYS HAS BEEN closed source? Maybe because you people simply have no clue about tech? Now the people who always flocked to Ledger are flocking to open source wallets when 99.9% of you can't actually read the open source. "Ah but surely someone can read the source and assure us it's safe!" So the safety of open source wallets is basically "TRUST ME BRO"...?
But the fact that theirs is open source means people who DO know how to read it CAN read it, which means they can find anything malicious and let everyone know. With Ledger, it's "[TRUST ME BRO](https://twitter.com/oskararnarson/status/1659598900473241601?s=46&t=10M7j784UkbhZ8DB9rqUdw)."
You went to type an entire bullshit and talking about hardware and shit but can't give a definitive answer to a simple comparative questions? You're too dumb to realize the risk model is completely different with close sourced HW and open sourced HW do you? With open source hardware there will have more parties keeping them in check, these people would test if the pre-installed firmware is indeed have the same signature as the one that is open sourced, you think everyone in open source space is dumb? Everyone can just release one open source and send pre-installed HW with another firmware? You think Trezor could do that and survive this long? Next up, regular users that can't read code can still employ different strategies when dealing with the risk of open soured HW, such as but not limited to update only to audited firmware, use only firmware that has been released for weeks or even months so it can have more time for suspicious code to be detected, and keep in mind, all the competitors, community dev, and security firms will keep Ledger in check. But these are not possible when the entire firmware is close sourced, and regular users are even fucked, they can only TRUST and nothing else. That's what I'm talking about when I say the term "risk model", which you failed to understand. It seems to you everyone who doesn't read code are equal to dumb idiot and close or open source are equal risk to them? Are you dumb? The entire crypto space advocate open source because people and competitors keep each other in check, that's one main benefits of open source, do you have problem understand that? Open source doesn't mean every user should be able to read every single fking commits and compile from source. And I'm still waiting for you to post your github repo that has everything to show your credentials, and make sure it to be verifiable it's belong to you. Cause Jamie, I don't think you're the person you claim to be, 1 year ago you are just promoting your shitcoin scam SGE (SOCIETY OF GALACTIC EXPLORATION) <<< What an absolute dumb fking name to be no wonder no one hears about your tiny scam previously
Again, I stated I know my risk, and I'm gambling with the discount gap of ETHE (which is a different game plan of my own), and never advocate that to any Ledger users, but I'm merely stating TRUSTING LEDGER IS NO DIFFERENCE THAN TRUSTING A CENTRALIZED ENTITY IF I HAVE TO PICK TO TRUST A CENTRALIZED ENTITY I RATHER TRUST THE ONE THAT IS MORE REGULATED THAN SOME OFFSHORE PRIVATE COMPANY IN FRANCE.
You are right, which is exactly why I also don't recommend a specific HW even if they are fully open source. People need to assess the risk by themselves, and people who can't read programming language need have their own strategy into mitigate the risk, luckily there's some ways for them such as: - Don't update until a specific firmware release has been audited thoroughly by credible security firm. - Wait for months until a specific commits have been reviewed by communities - If they are going hardcore or simply storing large amounts of assets, they can always pay someone to read new commits for them to make sure there's no suspicious code being added - Use fully source HW in conjuction with multi sig wallet Now, these are options that are available for fully open source HW, but none of them is possible with a close sourced HW. They can only TRUST Ledger won't mess up or steal their seeds.
Exactly this. I remembered all the "don't buy Ledgers in Amazon even if it's sold by Ledger themselves, ONLY TRUST LEDGER directly" posts... I imagine these people buy a car and go straight to a wall to crash test it since they don't trust the manufacturer.
Even if ledger was open source, I would never know how to read the code and begin to understand it. I would still have to put my faith TRUST on the community/white hat subject matter experts for guidance. Remember “ WE THE PEOPLE “. have the absolute POWER to always do by what is right.
BTC IS BTC ... it has set the principles that found this space...decentralisation and p2p transactions without 3rd parties and the need of TRUST. but definitely academic research did not stop in 2009.. obviously it will be difficult...it is not just the tech anymore. Many- institutions- funds, even governments, are heavily into btc and eth and they won't let this happen easily. even cex's promote their own bags..
I've noticed increased simping for politicians here on this subreddit. Please, stop. I'm old enough to remember how a politician once said he was pro union, and the air traffic controllers endorsed him for president. After he took office, the air traffic controllers went on strike. The "pro union" president promptly fired them. So, these politicians see how passionate bitcoiners are, so they announce their support for it. When the banksters, owners, and corporate overlords put the pressure on politicians after the election is over, don't forget what happened to the air traffic controllers in 1981. There are many more examples, both Democrat and Republican. DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS! (verify by looking at their track record with a critical mind)
To me this whole thing was a marketing failure on an epic scale... If it was launched as a new service with a massive ad campaign that made it very clear it was opt in from the get go, and they were transparent well before launch. people would be praising them as leaders in the market, but because of the way they did it, it comes off as a clueless CEO trying to generate a security as a service business out of thin air so they can get more profits, not realizing that they are trading away the most important part of their business... **TRUST.** As far as whether or not crypto can go main stream... I think crypto has a lot of flaws that no one in the space is really tackling before it can go main stream... every UI in the space is absolute garbage, even some one who is relatively tech savvy it feels daunting, and its very easy to make a mistake that can cost tens of thousands of dollars. This kind of flexibility is great for developers, but there needs to be a no fuss layer for idiots. Also while I advocate "Not your Keys not your crypto", I mostly advocate that because there is so little regulation in the space.. If you have any significant wealth in crypto there still isn't an exchange I would actually trust, and rather than create a framework so people can trust the exchanges that do exist, governments are using the bad actors in the space as an excuse to try to shut the whole industry down while they still can. Lastly I don't think crypto CAN go main stream if the idiots in the space don't learn to self police... if all it takes is Elon musk tweeting a shit coin to get every idiot in the space to jump on board the latest pump and dump rug pull then there really isn't any hope for the handful of legitimate projects that are out there... because even if they do succeed when they try to market they are tainted by the stench of being associated with crypto.
man... crypto with mass adoption and no true cold wallet solution is the same banking system we have now.. so there is no point. crypto mass adoption means people have to learn to use TRUE COLD WALLETS. NEVER TRUST> ALWAYS VERIFY. go back to regular banking bro.
>you forgot the most important words, TRUST ME. TRUST ME as you would trust a strange dog with a steak, a kleptomaniac with your wallet, or indeed, Ledger with your recovery keys. For I am trustworthy, I swear it on my karma points, on my obscure subreddit memberships, and on my vintage collection of rare Pepes.
Fuck Ledger. If we've learned anything these past few years it's that YOU CANNOT TRUST ANYONE IN CRYPTO. This shit giving me nam flashbacks to Luna/Celsius/FTX. "Everything is fine bro." "Nothing changed." Fuck Ledger.
Two things: 1. Can a firmware update steal a seed from a Trezor like it can for Ledger? 2. Since Ledger is not open source, you have to TRUST that company that it cant ALREADY drain your wallet? Or do so with a future firmware update?
People will wait until the last politician has lied to them, until the last notary has forged documents, until the last big name retail bank has stolen their money before they will be receptive to the idea that TRUST is not a vocabulary word that really exists around bitcoin. When people understand why trust does not belong around bitcoin, I think the real lightbulb will flicker and illuminate.
What the fuck are you guys doing? There's still another leg down. Macroeconomic factors. Recession. Raising interest rates. I know everything. There's a crash to 15k coming when the news about Genesis and DCG comes out. Vladimir Putin. Sam Bankman Fried. Have you ever fucking heard of GARY GENSLER? Bitcoin is going to 0, you fuckwads. TRUST ME!! ​ /s
For those who think OP is over the top. check IBOVESPA prices, and market news, a lot of companies closing. Lula is a leftist guy that got a good commodities wave that held his government in place. All the other discussion abbout feelings, mysoginy etc is hand held by midia outlets, everything they call bad about any other politician lula would be as bad as, he just pays and fake it better. His supporters too will ignore any problemn with lula the don't mind it, they just want their leader in power. Lula wants to increase taxes, regulations, and wealth fare state so they have more ways to create corruption. Increasing too the number of ministeries/secretaries so he has more political structure to negotiate and get more allies ( in the end is more money to wash ). Brazil as well as the rest of south america is a narco state. Top politicians, judges and lawyers will defend and advocate to drug stuff, and even do it in quiet ways. Then they will say but it's the law. It's a slow but steady change to make things better for bandits and thieves. Everyone that were sent to jail due to corruption on politician such as Sergio Cabral and others were released already by the STF. To release Lula they changed the understanding of the law releasing with him more than 100 people just changing what the law meant. DO NOT TRUST big midia. Just don't.
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> It's not an argument to state a fact (relay nodes cost a lot of money) and then make an unrelated and unsupported assertion (cannot decentralize). It is not unrelated and unsupported, by your own admission it disqualifies a large part of the potential users of the network. > You do not need to TRUST anyone. You do, the relay nodes. > You can run a relay node. A lot of people cannot afford to do it. > They are already decentralized geographically. Where large egress and processing providers are ONLY. Easy targets for governments. > Very high bandwidth is a requirement for *any* blockchain to achieve high performance. There's a reason why no other chain can achieve instant finality. Performance for a cryptocurrency is being able to survive adversarial conditions, and still being useful/used. Algorand fails the minute large providers are told to ban your relay nodes. And the higher the requirements are (they certainly won't get lower with time and more and more data accumulating in its blockchain), the more centralized it is. > Again, relay nodes do nothing but propagate messages, you are overselling your absurd point. Consensus matters more. Relay nodes are a part of the network, are distributed and operational until 2024 in their current state with decentralization happening this year. When they decentralize, be sure to come back and make up another absurd argument. Again, you try to divert from the actual issue, relay nodes are REQUIRED for the network to operate. > "save face"? On Reddit. You sure think highly of yourself. You make no sense, but have some self-respect and at least assume the words you used, you told me to stay away the minute you were opposed arguments. Not "if I want", it was an order... which as you said, "on reddit", it pretty laughable. > But yeah, you know, the Algorand Foundation still controls the DNS entries manually as was planned during this phase, nothing changed. Again with the redherring, you have been told how it isn't the main issue, how the underlying problem is the requirement for the network to function that make it impossible to decentralize effectively... but you keep using these dodging skills... it won't work, keep trying if you want. > Once again, pure ignorance. Once again, trying to use ad hominem to avoid having to respond with anything substantive, throw in some buzz words like "trilemma solved", "Turing prize winner", etc. you're not fooling anyone. > Anyone can run a relay node, Already debunked. And by your own admission it's a falsehood, so why lie about it now?
It's not an argument to state a fact (relay nodes cost a lot of money) and then make an unrelated and unsupported assertion (cannot decentralize). ​ \> So not zero, and I don't need more than this valid argument, it's also two folds, not only you need to rely on these expensive to run third-parties (i.e. you need to trust them), but they are limited when it comes to where they can run considering the bandwidth and processing power they require (i.e. they can't properly be decentralized geographically because they depend on the largest bandwidth provider worldwide). 1. You do not need to TRUST anyone. 2. You can run a relay node. 3. They are already decentralized geographically. 4. Very high bandwidth is a requirement for \*any\* blockchain to achieve high performance. There's a reason why no other chain can achieve instant finality. \> And that's always more arguments than your only answer to this valid criticism, "muh participation node", which is completely useless with out relay and archival nodes. Again, relay nodes do nothing but propagate messages, you are overselling your absurd point. Consensus matters more. Relay nodes are a part of the network, are distributed and operational until 2024 in their current state with decentralization happening this year. When they decentralize, be sure to come back and make up another absurd argument. ​ \> Trying to save face now? Cute. You've shown your colors. "save face"? On Reddit. You sure think highly of yourself. ​ \> You have trouble reading, it's right up there, read it again. Again all you are witnessing is a blockchain with a plan, operating with 0 downtime, instant finality, forkless, sub-4 second blocks, and the highest real-world TPS by far. But yeah, you know, the Algorand Foundation still controls the DNS entries manually as was planned during this phase, nothing changed. ​ \> It's not, you rely on costly third parties to relay/process transactions, your network cannot be decentralized with these requirements and it isn't just because of the centrally defined DNS records as you keep pretending everywhere, that's just a missing piece that won't solve the underlying issues concerning relay nodes I've had to repeat about 10 times here now but for which you keep dodging or pretending that it doesn't matter. ​ Once again, pure ignorance. Firstly you do not rely on costly third parties anymore than every single blockchain relies on it, far more so without any plan for decentralizing. The literal ONLY point of centralization is the DNS records. Anyone can run a relay node, saying it's a higher cost doesn't change that fact. If you can make $1M a year on a business built on Algorand, $15k on a relay node is a drop in the bucket of business cost. So stop the rambling about your false premise that costly relay nodes pose an impossible path to decentralization. It's simply not true, and you will be proven wrong in practice within 2 years. You can repeat the fact of relay node hardware requirement a thousand times, it will never prove your silly assertion that it makes decentralization impossible. ​ Enjoy.
> You have presented 0 arguments outside of "relay nodes cost a money, it's impossible to decentralize". So not zero, and I don't need more than this valid argument, it's also two folds, not only you need to rely on these expensive to run third-parties (i.e. you need to trust them), but they are limited when it comes to where they can run considering the bandwidth and processing power they require (i.e. they can't properly be decentralized geographically because they depend on the largest bandwidth provider worldwide). And that's always more arguments than your only answer to this valid criticism, "muh participation node", which is completely useless with out relay and archival nodes. > One of the most fundamentally absurd arguments in the space. Pretending it is "absurd" because you don't have any actual answer or solution to this precise issue with Algorand says enough about who's veering into absurdity. > You don't even understand how Algorand consensus works Baseless claim, I'm the one who pointed out the shortcomings and you have no valid answer to address the issues. >The great reading comprehension of an argumentative poster on reddit on display, clearly the implicitness in the statement is "stay away from Algorand (IF YOU WANT / DO NOT TRUST IT)" Trying to save face now? Cute. You've shown your colors. > What are you witnessing exactly? You have trouble reading, it's right up there, read it again. > The trilemma is solved by Algorand, that much is reality. It's not, you rely on costly third parties to relay/process transactions, your network cannot be decentralized with these requirements and it isn't just because of the centrally defined DNS records as you keep pretending everywhere, that's just a missing piece that won't solve the underlying issues concerning relay nodes I've had to repeat about 10 times here now but for which you keep dodging or pretending that it doesn't matter. There is no trolling here, just you, an Algorand shill, who refuses to admit the shortcomings of Algorand and keeps lying about it "solving" the blockchain trilemma.
\> I have presented you valid arguments, you keep dodging and pretending it's not important when it is. ​ You have presented 0 arguments outside of "relay nodes cost a money, it's impossible to decentralize". One of the most fundamentally absurd arguments in the space. \> Algorand disqualifies a very large part of the world from being able to run nodes and verify the ledger/participate in the network. And then you continue on with your complete ignorance with statements like this. You don't even understand how Algorand consensus works, and yet want to pretend that people in poverty must be able to run consensus or else it's not decentralized. Your argument just doesn't make much sense. \> With these settings, Algorand can simply not be decentralized, it will be centralized around large egress and processing power providers. It's fine if you don't understand what the term decentralized means, but it doesn't change the reality that Algorand is in fact decentralized and the relay nodes DNS will be soon as well. \> The great openness of Algorand's community on display when someone put them in front of inconvenient truths about their network, thanks for going mask off. The great reading comprehension of an argumentative poster on reddit on display, clearly the implicitness in the statement is "stay away from Algorand (IF YOU WANT / DO NOT TRUST IT)" ​ \> I do, I'll be here to debunk your lies/deliberate omissions when needed. You'll be here to troll with FUD, shocker. The world will still go on, Algorand will still go on. ​ \> No wait required, we are witnessing Algorand's shortcomings right now and I've described them. It's certainly not the only network that makes the same compromises and spuriously pretend to have "solved" the blockchain trilemma, don't feel special. ​ What are you witnessing exactly? You haven't described a single thing, you quoted some particular parts of Algorand documentation and then went off on absurd arguments based on nothing more than "because you say so". The trilemma is solved by Algorand, that much is reality. If you don't understand blockchain, that's fine, use whatever you feel like it. Reality won't change though. The day-1 decision to decentralize relay nodes after bootstrap period will prove to be successful, and you'll be on to your next trolling.
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You are the proof reading police too; your story checks out. I would like you to go back through this convo. I make a lighthearted joke and you make fun of me as a simp for Ben. You attack 2x as much I as I do. You went in this direction. I would like the formal record of the Reddit high court to show, Chorizo does not in fact want to have a dick measuring contest. He said he has the biggest dick but when pressed, shriveled up as expected. Murph agreed to the measurement. Chorizo only continues to bully while calling Murph poor and pathetic. Strangely, he would still not show the huge dick. So, its settled, the bro has a tiny dick and is in fact the fraud we thought all along. YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD ME BEAT, YOU SAID YOU WERE THE MAN! I RAN UP AGAINST THE BIGGER DICK. YOU DUMB FUCK! Now I am pitiful when I say let's find out? You are actually dumber than I could ever imagine. You gaslight people you stupid mofo. I said you think you are the smartest guy in the room, I think I might be one of them. You missed that point entirely. You are totally beat, you troll, keyboard hero. You don't have a masters, do you? I really went to Cornell undergrad and Columbia grad school. Your lame ass ran into some real pedigree for once. Sucks you are really thinking this through, shit, I got nothing, maybe I will stick with the pathetic narrative. I live in Fairfield County CT, you know that area? You want the VIN # to my Cayenne too? YOU WERE THE AGRESSOR and with a little push back folded like a chair. Classic bully, loser through and through. I am actually wearing my Columbia tie right now, want to see a picture of it? VERIFY DONT TRUST CHORZIO