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Unfortunately you failed the OPSEC portion of the test though ...
Been thinking about wrench attacks and would like some feedback. Multisig with devices in different locations seems like a good idea because you physically cannot fulfill an attackers demands without contacting someone else who could be alerted to your distress. However, with help or a decent lure the attacker could wrench your loved one which should be avoided at all costs… Duress pins that wipe devices would anger an attacker into violence. Decoy wallets may be obvious to an attacker who knows how much you have. This is more of an OPSEC issue, but still defeats the purpose of a decoy wallet. I feel like the best route is a single sig decoy wallet to pay an attacker and a Multisig wallet with the rest. If they know about the decoy and ask for the whole stack you can call up another key holder and use a code word to let them know whether you’re asking for their hardware device in distress. Example, “I need to wallet so I can buy a boat” means ‘all clear,’ while “I need the wallet to cover some bills” would mean ‘Call the cops.’
Thanks! The primary goal of the framework is privacy. While cold wallets enhance security, they can leave digital footprints—such as payment records, shipping details, and purchase logs—that may affect OPSEC. For strict privacy, I don’t recommend them.
This is a comprehensive and well-structured framework for maintaining privacy in crypto transactions. The emphasis on both on-chain and off-chain OPSEC is crucial. Have you considered integrating hardware wallets with these practices for an added layer of security?
Do you know why you never tell your girlfriend about your bitcoin? You never know who she will tell. She might even do something as stupid as post about it to millions of people on reddit. Telling your girlfriend about your bitcoin is bad OPSEC!
Anything online is a terrible place to put anything as detrimental to your OPSEC as your seed phrase. I cannot stress this enough, DO NOT USE BITWARDEN.
Sorry for your loss OP. This was a shitty way to learn good OPSEC, but it’s crucial when pursuing self-custody. You will be able to rebuild, don’t beat yourself up too much. Again, terribly sorry this happened to you OP.
considering the amount of data breaches in recent years, it’s not as hard as you would think. Also digging into people’s profiles can provide people with way more information than you think. For example, after looking at your profile I was able to find out you live in the east coast area, play the guitar, grow figs and cannabis, and have a very nice red brick house with a great front yard. That was after 5 minutes and no motivation to dig deeper. Think about what someone will do if they wanted to extort/intimidate someone for money. Cross referencing to find out other accounts, where someone might frequent, finding meta data on pictures to get accurate locations, etc. Good OPSEC is very important, especially when the biggest security risk in any system is the human behind it
It sounds like you went full degen into the dumbest shit and are upset that you got burned. I'm still doing just fine in this market, so maybe stay out of memecoins and leverage trading (and apparently poor OPSEC practices).
i love money stamps. it might work better if you provide education alongside so try a big ass stamp that explains OPSEC with wallets and basic concepts like how the ledger is public
I totally get that — **OPSEC is key** when it comes to Bitcoin. A lot of people prefer to keep their holdings private, and that makes sense, especially with security concerns. That said, some people wear Bitcoin merch not to flex their bags, but to support the movement, spark conversations, or just rep what they believe in. It’s like wearing a band tee — you don’t have to be in the band to show support. Do you think there’s a way to wear Bitcoin gear **without signaling wealth**, like low-key designs that only other Bitcoiners would recognize?
why Monero is better than Zcash: * no CEO * no vulnerable corporate presence, anonymous core developers not subject to US/EU regulatory pressure or intimidation * not overly-concerned with compliance, privacy is prioritized in every consideration regardless of the consequences * fully private at protocol level (no optional privacy), all transactions look the same, transparency is strictly opt-in * auto-shielded IP addresses * uses established, well-understood, battle-tested and thus reliable cryptography as opposed to novel, experimental, much less understood and thus potentially flawed cryptography i.e. no "spooky moon math" * modular approach to privacy = no single point of failure * proven track record, 6+ years of sustained darknet usage with 0 users traced, has notably foiled the FBI, Europol & the IRS * no suspected backdoors * no dev tax i.e. "founder's reward/community development fund", conditional donation-based dev funding gives the community more leverage and keeps devs disciplined * wasn't designed to systematically enrich founders & early Zerocoin Electric Coin Company LLC investors, whales either mined or bought their coins like everybody else * not a Bitcoin fork * not transitioning to Proof-of-Stake, PoW has a proven 10+ year track record while consumer-grade CPU mining remains the most anonymous, most permissionless way of acquiring coins * ASIC resistance * tail emission * dynamic blocksize * lower inflation * ever-increasing real-world adoption, actually displacing Bitcoin in OPSEC-critical markets, endorsed by the DNM Bible * growing criminal adoption = infinitely more street cred + law enforcement/regulator hostility = additional battle-hardening * passionate grassroots enthusiasm, considerably more community engagement and activism, has better memes * significantly better reputation, widely admired and respected by non-hodlers, has much more traction on Reddit, 4chan, etc * greater decentralization = much more likely to survive a governmental crackdown on privacy coins * no trademark restrictions, no pandering to the Establishment, has steadfastly remained true to crypto's anti-authoritarian free market cypherpunk ideals [https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#ZcashBlackpill](https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#ZcashBlackpill)
Great question! As others have mentioned, a little search goes a long way, but I’m happy to start you on that journey. Read up and educate yourself about self-custody: https://strike.me/learn/?category=custody Please be aware that self-custody comes with its own inherent risks, so be prepared for those risks by practicing good OPSEC. Check the sidebar for more information on hardware wallets. Everyone will give you a different opinion, so just be ready to watch several YouTube comparison and review videos to help you decide which hardware wallet is best for you. I have used Ledger and Trezor and Trezor is my personal favorite. Most importantly, you can ask for options on here but as any good researcher should do, never trust but always verify! Best of luck!
More points of failure. Seems like it would be better to reduce down to as few points of failure as possible and improve OPSEC of the few points that remain.
Same bullshit can be seen on the Coinbase sub. Tons of noobs with money that don’t know proper OPSEC for managing their crypto
DOT, MATIC, HBAR, SOL, and then do some "gambling" on Neural.ai and OPSEC. Risky, yes, but upside potential is super attractive. Don't take out a second mortgage, but gamble a little.
I can’t really respond to all of this. So I’ll just say that I meant using ex CIA in an advisory role mostly, just to teach me OPSEC. I could even just be one of the random people going through everydayspy, I just need to find a way to get the knowledge I need to pull this off. And I might use the same organization to launder the money I just wouldn’t do it all at once. You have to do it slowly such that they know more money is coming, so there’s a disincentive to rip you off on any one deal because they would just be screwing themselves over of millions for thousands. What id probably want to do is use a front, but a front that’s not actually laundering any money but secretly has the sole purpose of making the drops while they are thinking they are doing something entirely different. Like I said, I’d have to think about it. Ultimately I’d want to come up with something no one has ever done before so no one is looking out for it. And I realize nothing is “foolproof” but if you put enough layers between you and the actual operation it’s very unlikely anyone would be able to find out who I am because it’s simply just not enough money to devote those kinds of resources for. My main problem would be financing this thing without any startup capital, that would be the most difficult issue to solve I think. Once it gets going it’s self-sustaining, but it would probably require at least a few hundred thousand to get running in the first place. I’d also have to put in a lot of effort learning cybersecurity OPSEC first because one of the first things I would need to do is split the BTC up into multiple wallets, and I’m certain that’s traceable if not done correctly.
Jesus Christ you’re making a lot of assumptions here. 1. I wouldn’t tell them anything about money laundering I would only have them advise me on OPSEC about things like making sure you don’t get tailed. 2. I never said I would do it all at once…once again, you’re making assumptions and arguing with straw men. 3. Again I wouldn’t be telling anyone anything. People would be transporting briefcases for me, or possibly absolutely nothing more than a piece of paper with routing numbers/private keys on them. No one would know anything other than the fact they are making some kind of drop. And I would do it in small enough amounts that nothing would arouse suspicion. 4. I’m not trusting anyone here, the whole point is to use intermediaries because I don’t trust anyone. And if no one knows anything about what’s actually going on they don’t really have anything to sell me out on. I definitely would sit on it for a year and make sure my plan is absolutely fool proof and I know I could do it given enough time and planning. Every counterargument you have is based on a straw man that either misunderstands what I said or is filling in the blanks about what you think I’ll be doing.
There's nothing you or anyone can do about that now. But the odds are very low, unless you can somehow be identified as owning a large amount of coin. The vast majority have only small amounts and the rewards from random wrench attack aren't worth the risks. Practice good OPSEC and never tell anyone how much you have, and you'll be fine.
Fuck off Nobody here is gonna tell you their wealth We like our OPSEC
Most people are debt addicted, they don´t invest nor care about it. Do your OPSEC right and stop talking about it.
I will not explain to you how to launder your money using Monero, but once you understand its mechanics and why deanonymization is impossible on the Monero Blockchain (except for the incredibly theoretical EAE attack, which requires incredibly bad OPSEC), you will know how one could launder money on the monero Blockchain. [Breaking Monero](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsSYUeVwrHBnAUre2G_LYDsdo-tD0ov-y&si=gkTJex77bSwbknkJ) is a very good source of information for this. Money laundry is usually illegal, but actually not a bad thing IMO. Every transaction on the Monero Blockchain is untracable and always perfectly launders the money over and over again. This is necessary so that funds can be fungible. If funds are not always automatically laundered, they are no longer fungible and no longer to be considered real money, because real money must be fungible, in order to be considered a reliable measurement of value and usable for trading whatever you want to trade. If you just look up EAE attack you will see how you can easily eliminate this threat (no EAE attack attempt had been satisfyingly successful in the past because this attack relies on statistical analysis, which is a weakness of the current implementation of Ring Signatures, which will be replaced by FCMP (Full chain membership proofs) in the future with completely eliminates this weakness for good). TL;DR If you want to understand Monero, research these terms: Ring Signatures (and why FCMP is more (perfectly) secure compared to ring signatures) RingCT Stealth Address Key Image UTXO Pederson Commitment Dandeloin++ Bulletproofs EAE Attack Watch out to not loose your mind. At least to me, understanding all this tech was incredibly complex at first but it all makes sense now. Its very smart and incredibly, what some random people on the internet came up with in their spare time.
Well basically, its due to adoption. Many ransom attackers actually offer a Monero discount. Lets say someone asks you for 10k USD worth of Bitcoin in ransom. It is not uncommon that they at the same time will also offer you to pay your ransom in Monero at a 10% discount, lowering your ransom to 9k USD. As long, as they have good OPSEC, it is impossible to catch them. But the cases of those being caught, are the ones, where the criminal didnt have good OPSEC. Just as bad OPSEC as their victim had, which led them to becoming a victim in the first place. So far not a single Monero transaction has ever been deanonymized. Criminals using Monero have been caught in the past, because they accidentally uploaded private documents of their victims (because they didnt pay the ransom) alongside their entire home folder. Thats how the Vastaamo guy got caught for example. Others just talk way too much. Most criminals actually just talk way too much. Thats why we dont need everything to be transparent. In the end, criminals will just catch themselves, due to their bad OPSEC outside the Monero network. Its very hard to fuck up inside the Monero network, but incredibly easy to fuck up outside of it.
But breaking the traceability, that’s where it gets tricky. Bitcoin’s like the nosy neighbor of crypto, watching all your transactions on the blockchain. So, they’d probably have to bounce those funds through a mixer or use something like CoinJoin to scramble the trail a bit. Still, even after all that, it's not 100% clean. Bitcoin isn’t Monero—it’s not built for hiding your tracks, and there’s always some digital breadcrumbs left behind. These guys will need some serious OPSEC to stay outta sight. Probably be looking to swap it for Monero or another privacy coin before cashing out, just to play it extra safe. But, yeah, definitely not the easiest loot to disappear with.
If youre that worried about it, get out. Dont invest what you cant aford to lose or recover from. Also the fact that you got robbed. Use it as a lesson to teach yourself better OPSEC and learn to manage your risk better.
Couple scammers used social engineering to trick a man into screensharing his private key and also gave access to his 2FA. Scammers gained access to multiple accounts with over 4000 BTC. They drained his wallet and spent up to $500k per day on buying gifts for crushes like Lamborghinis and Birkin bags for random women at the club. Total losers with little OPSEC. Could’ve gotten away with it if they were just a little smart.
Well you probably want to make sure you use proper OPSEC before sending it to those wallets, but yeah.
Maybe I’m conflating that with some other famous case of how they caught a cyber criminal. I’m telling you that running your own node is absolutely the worst possible idea. Think about it, if they can trace the traffic without you owning a node then they can essentially pin down the traffic to your specific node, and if they find out it’s owned by some private entity then they are obviously going to assume it’s you. They don’t need a warrant to figure any of that out nor do they need one to employ the various mechanics they would use to deanonymize you. If you put a big enough target on your back there is nothing you can do once you’re no longer anonymous, which is why maintaining anonymity is paramount in standard OPSEC. But go ahead and run your node and think it protects you. Hope you aren’t doing anything too illegal.
I mean I didn’t know you lived in a gated community before. Do whatever you want. Can’t force OPSEC.
I mean it would seem to me you should buy a floppy drive and some random cheap pc off Facebook market and plug it in. Could be a virus, could be someone’s seed phrases. Floppy for the last 10 years has been pretty decent OPSEC. When’s the last time you saw a floppy drive or something with one it for on a store shelf?
That is some top tier OPSEC, to put your burner online id on your personal data. Also, Satoshi left Bitcoin before seeds where a thing, and that storage medium was long obsolete in 2009...
You’re not guaranteed your assets when an exchange goes under. You might eventually get a payment if they do, but it’s entirely up to the company and any potential lawyers and judges involved how you’re paid, and how much you’re paid. Also if your exchange account gets hacked you aren’t getting anything back. You get to have your own OPSEC with your own keys and node.
If you go far enough down the rabbit hole and live in places like the U.S you realize Non-KYC is essential to own, otherwise your trusting big brother not to leverage your identity against your Bitcoin holdings. Currently KYC is nice for buying/selling large amounts quickly since non KYC is pretty restricted/low liquidity. Non KYC requires better OPSEC, but It’s a good idea to have both. I’m not saying you shouldn’t pay your taxes, but if the tax rate becomes 90 percent you will have some optionality. Few look at the Boston Tea Party participants as tax evaders, and we are on a crash course for our own Boston tea party moment so be prepared.
It’s $OPSEC’s staking contract I believe
Hey man, it is great you could do it in time and have confidence in your future from that aspect. As you mentioned tensions where you live: Just make sure your OPSEC is good and your threat model adapted to what your country is experiencing now, if in a state of emergency and civil unrest. Backups you made work and you proved they work (wipe and reset a wallet, try transaction out of the wallet,...) Safe backup methods/redundant/etc... May you be force to move region/country/loose property/ etc... ? Keep extra quiet about self ownership as violence may be around the corner Consider how to pass it along to loved ones if the worst happens or you loose memory or whatever.. Best,
I dont want to bash your friend because moving to their hardware wallet was good practice, but due to lack of preplanning, they’ve made their OPSEC way more complicated than it needs to be. The first problem was buying Bitcoin with KYC from Coinbase. At that point they might as well left on exchange (or transferred to any other custodian like Strike app for example) for their travel, then withdrew to their wallet once they arrived to their new home. Due to having KYC’d Bitcoin, they could be open to tax obligations from their previous country, in which case they need to be able to pay the tax with a bank account from the previous country anyway, which ALMOST makes holding the Bitcoin in the new country burdensome and somewhat less valuable. That being said, the Border Wallet from Sparrow someone else mentioned might be the best, most secure option. You could use any hot wallet and send back to hardware wallet once done traveling, but the border wallet is best if your friend just NEEDS to keep a seed phrase while traveling for some reason. A simpler method is just create a 2nd wallet inside the Trezor with a passphrase. Keep the majority inside the wallet with the passphrase and keep a small amount in the regular wallet with the seed phrase so if they get stopped and asked to empty their Trezor, they can dump the decoy wallet with the small amount of sats and keep the rest of the Bitcoin hidden inside the passphrase wallet.
No, not at all. I don’t need the multi-sig bitcoin in any emergency. If I had to leave country I could access in 24-48 hours with one key and the entity I use for multi-sig with verification. There is just a delay. So, very portable still. Still have instant liquidity with bitcoins that I don’t have in the multi-sig. And, of course, my OPSEC setup doesn’t do anything to the scarcity of bitcoin. So, that point certainly doesn’t ‘fall through’ .. same for audibility and transparency that still enacted. You clearly don’t understand bitcoin.
Well, in this case Crunchbase is one of many partners they announced other partners include OPSEC and Ionet. That aside like i said earlier it has an active data marketplace so your obsession with the project not solving anything implies laziness on your part.
First off, I like Joe. I worked at ConsenSys for a bit. He's a bit of an old school money guy, but his heart is in the right place. Second, I don't really care if he gets in trouble. It would have negligible impact on the Ethereum ecosystem. Third, the (weak) pseudo-anonymity he's talking about there is not even a little bit shady. Splitting up sales so the general public can't see obvious whale activity is just good OPSEC. It isn't going to fool regulators or law enforcement, since emails are attached, and it's clearly not indented to.
"Its unstealable and unlosable for all practical purposes." Backup need not be on the cloud... it can be in a medium (cryptosteel) and location (bank vault, etc.) where you will not lose it. Our OPSEC recommendation strongly encourages you to have more than one such backup for maximum safety and security under this framework. Our goal is to turn the odds in your favor so much that it is unlikely for you to lose your Bitcoin. And insurance is not the subject matter of this discussion. What you insure for and how is a subject matter of your relationship with your Hybrid Custody Provider. Even if you chose to insure, it will be exponentially cheaper to underwrite risk under this framework compared to other scenarios.
If your private-key is stolen and you also lost all access to it... then your Bitcoin cannot be recovered as your key always takes precedence over vendor key. This failure scenario is discussed clearly in the video "Hybrid Custody with Ledger - TechnologyOverview" To prevent this... our standard recommended OPSEC practice is to have an encrypted cloud back up as stolen keys are less of a problem in this framework than lost and stolen keys. Once you have backups as recommended, you can tide over this edge case easily.
Have you had any close call OPSEC moments with personal secuirity IRL?
The distinction I would make here is that there is always risk. If you perceive it to be negligible, then that's entirely your prerogative and I'm not saying that's wrong. What I am saying is that thinking there's no risk is simply untrue. Also, your point about people who have conventional wealth -- that is protected by institutions, laws, police, etc. Bitcoin is more than likely protected by individuals. I am just saying from experience that most people do not have good OPSEC.
Assuming someone has good OPSEC might be a reach considering they're openly advertising what they have. If you understand the basic tenants of security and risk, you understand that it's not possible to be completely secure. There will always be risk and each individual has to decide what their own risk appetite is. Generally speaking, it's not wise to invite potential risks to look in your direction.
OPSEC on Uniswap. Recent ATH over $3 , now sitting at around $1. It's AI and RWA. Hard working team, active community. Sure people will say it's gambling and to buy BTC but if I only had $100 then I'd rather take a chance on something then a boring 2 x
Practice securing something else first. Build your confidence. The fact that people are so scared of their own ability to secure Bitcoin is a very big testament to how well society has conditioned us to not care to look after anything on our own. This also extends to children, we are scared to raise kids, we send them to schools to learn "the correct way", we ask for external advice on how to discipline children, yet children actually may be the one thing we have most autonomy and most desire to take responsibility for. But back to the topic, securing Bitcoin is hard, there are many choices, no one will give you "the correct way" to do it, because the decision is up to you based on what you know, what you will read, what you can understand and what your surroundings are like. One good piece of advice is to follow OPSEC. This is actually a thing where you write down all the things you are scared about, as an exercise, and sort them from realistic to unrealistic and you may even find simple solutions for some of them. Eventually as you work through this, discover other things you hadn't thought about, you will gain confidence that you do have the ability to secure 12 FRICKING WORDS.
I understand your point. I’m thinking for beyond me and taking into account the poor OPSEC of my wife. There is no “I have forgot my password” with self custody. Life has changed for me and I need to think beyond myself. If I’m still alive when my kids prove being cypherpunk themselves that’s maybe time for a change. We will see by then.
I think it’s important to mention that OPSEC is important. Always talk about Bitcoin. Don’t talk about your Bitcoin.
I made a post about OPSEC which has no reason to not go up 100%: [https://www.reddit.com/user/Ok-Blood-4246/comments/1bznlo4/opsec\_crypto\_to\_5x\_easily\_from\_here/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/user/Ok-Blood-4246/comments/1bznlo4/opsec_crypto_to_5x_easily_from_here/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I have seen enough to know that it can't go wrong. The worst already came, with the FUD and price dropping during btc dip. My target is 10$ but I don't see why it shouldn't go more up. Another interesting one is VELO. go check it out.
AI summer >>>> DeFi summer. To add to your AI picks i will go with more undervalued AI projects like NAI, VMINT and OPSEC.
If you have your seed phrase, you can download any wallet app, and do recover from seed phrase. You need an internet connection as it's downloading and looking up your wallets and balance etc. The reason for the ledger is to store your keys, and prevent any dodgy malware that could have compromised your phone/laptop/computer from detecting you have crypto, stealing your keys or doing stuff like monitoring your clipboard ( copy / paste ) and switching what's stored for a different wallet address For example imagine you have something like exodus on your laptop. You are sending someone some BTC and they provide you their wallet address to send to. You will likely copy this to your clipboard and then go to the app and paste in it and send. What some malware could do is run in the background looking for keys or any sign you have crypto software, and steal keys or detect you have copied a wallet id into your clipboard ready to paste, and instead put its own wallet id in to clipboard so when you paste you send your BTC to someone else. By storing your keys on the device and Ledger not holding them on your computer they are implementing a 2FA. One doesn't work without the other. The above is obviously a big issue for people who don't practice OPSEC very well, or doesn't even bother with basics like antivirus software. However antivirus software wouldn't protect you in a zero day situation. You then have scammers who try tricking you into doing Remote Desktop connection and take over your laptop, these kind of scams are very common and pose the same risks above. The above is why people shouldn't brag on here about how much they have, based on Reddit history etc you can often identify people and you then become a target such campaigns and attacks.
>How can I as a total novice go about setting this up Buy a modern hardware wallet, I liked both Bitbox02 (Bitcoin Only Edition) and the Coldcard Mk4. Initialize the device, write down your device login/password and your 24 seed words, make a backup copy, stash the backup somewhere secure, off site. Send a small amount of Bitcoin to the wallet, factory reset it, practice re-initializing the device from your seed words. Send a small amount from the wallet to an exchange. If all of that worked fine, you're good to go for six or seven figures easy. Consider using Sparrow Wallet for the software portion (the UI/interface), it's a great desktop wallet that works awesome with most modern wallets. Basic OPSEC, don’t go around talking to people about how great Bitcoin is. Just get rich quietly. That's it, that's all you need to do. Your 24 word seed *is* your Bitcoin. Do nothing, for years, a four year cycle or two. When it comes time to retire, maybe you buy a fancy new hardware wallet and set it up with your seed words, maybe your Coldcard still works totally fine. Hope that helps!
Please stop using the word OPSEC like you know what you are talking about. I haven't posted any sensitive information at all except I have almost 3 Bitcoin which is unconfirmed information by the way. Maybe I have zero Bitcoin. You didn't even think of that did you? I didn't say any anything about 2FA having anything to do with OPSEC so let's not play that game of making up things I said. You are right it is possible I could lose my Bitcoin like what could happen to anyone else BUT it won't be because I said have almost 3 Bitcoin in a random Reddit thread.
Are you comfortable ordering a cold card to your home address or for OPSEC would you advise receiving it somewhere else?
Im maxi ETH but had some money today to buy some bag differents..bought me a bag (MEME), (ONDO) and (OPSEC)..the last one looks interesting new upcoming project. We shall see..
Ok, I've been buying since 2014 or so, here's my two cents. Buy a modern hardware wallet, I liked both Bitbox02 (Bitcoin Only Edition) and the Coldcard Mk4. Initialize the device, write down your device login/password and your 24 seed words, make a backup copy, stash the backup somewhere secure, off site. Send a small amount of Bitcoin to the wallet, factory reset it, practice re-initializing the device from your seed words. Send a small amount from the wallet to an exchange. If all of that worked fine, you're good to go for six or seven figures easy. You don't need a passphrase, or multisig, or metal plates, or three friends to hold a portion of your seed words or a linux laptop, that's all overkill, you're straying into paranoia. You \*do\* need Sparrow Wallet, it's a great desktop wallet that works awesome with most modern wallets. Basic OPSEC: don't talk about Bitcoin with people around you, friends, family, coworkers, just play dumb. Get rich quietly. That's it, that's all you need to do. Your 24 word seed \*is\* your Bitcoin. Stop worrying, obsessing, wondering what if. Relax. Do nothing, for years, a four year cycle or two. When it comes time to retire, maybe you buy a fancy new hardware wallet and set it up with your seed words, maybe your Coldcard still works totally fine. Hope that helps.
In my opinion, I will go for undervalued AI assets like OPSEC, NAI and BLENDR as i believe they will offer better return.
OPSEC is a term frequently used by many well known publications and service providers when discussing bitcoin security. But I understand, you may well be a newbie to bitcoin, and may not necessarily be aware of the context of this term wrt bitcoin, and for that reason you may think it “sounds dumb” (like many other newbies do) and that’s perfectly fine. We all start somewhere. 1. https://blog.casa.io/7-ways-to-level-up-your-bitcoin-opsec/ 2. https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/opsec 3. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/james-bond-learning-bitcoin-opsec-tips 4. https://www.coindesk.com/tag/opsec/ 5. https://education.compassmining.io/education/opsecmanual/
Thanks for the post, it a useful reminder about what we put online. Although, using here the world OPSEC sounds kinda dumb. It’s not the army or an active military operation.
OP is some airman that is just really excited to tell Reddit the new word he learned in some class today…OPSEC. Bet dollars to donuts he tinders and snaps on all his TDY
What’s OPSEC. Makes you sound cool and all, but I don’t know what it stands for.
Erm, yeah but no? Reputable sources write about it, verbatim, and back before this sub was filled with strange people, some of who think a post with < 500 upvotes on Reddit is capable of tanking the global bitcoin market by 5-10%, bitcoin OPSEC was commonly and frequently discussed. It really isn’t difficult to use Google. But congrats to you working in intel, I suppose 👏
OP can't come up with a case suggesting: > There are plenty of explanations in the comments. Feel free to accept them, or not. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2cmal/people_have_terrible_opsec/kz9px3l/ This is the best (and only?) suggestion in the topic for how "poor reddit OPSEC" could put us at risk. Do you have other suggestions for how it could put us at risk even if they are as unlikely as this? This whole discussion is ridiculous.
The point is practice good OPSEC, don't be complacent, and don't assume that details that are innocuous on their own are going to be innocuous in aggregate.
“Let’s go wrench attack that guy who wears a fedora and always talks about OPSEC. Probably has some Bitcoins.”
Bad OPSEC works both ways and it can be to your advantage. I make a post that I have 50 bitcoin and photo shop an image of my ledger wallet. Then I start posting images of my car with license plate. Only problem is.... I am not posting a pic with my car and home, but the idiot who tried to wrongfully sue me. Use all the resources of the internet to achieve all your goals.
Or it could be that many people are doing OPSEC by staying silent. (oops, I blew it!)
And God forbid OP doesn’t just say security. I guess we want to be cool. I used to work in intel and I don’t even say OPSEC 🤣
You said enough information for me to know that you hold a pretty good value of BTC. You don’t need to tell me how much exactly, but with your message and declarations, I know you have. Bad OPSEC there.
The username could be used on 20 different platforms but it's not very relevant if no real personal information is being posted on said platforms. It's not bad "OPSEC" to post how much Bitcoin one owns by itself. I have almost three Bitcoins BTW. It's only an issue if one is doing things like their username contains part of their real name, posting your actual picture as your avatar, DMs enabled, 2FA disabled, and using you primary email address while not properly securing your Bitcoin. Stats will show poor people get robbed more than rich people. Why? We all know where the rich people live in our locality right? It's simply because rich folks have better locks, other security, more aware neighbors while generally not living among criminals.
That’s your assumption. That’s not bad OPSEC. Discussing basic issues around OPSEC on r/Bitcoin isn’t a cardinal sin, in fact I’d argue it’s incumbent on anyone who is serious about bitcoin to disseminate a message about good security practices and good operational hygiene, things like making sure keys are protected by HW devices, the types of HW devices that are technically sound vs those that aren’t (i.e. open source, offline and air-gapped vs bad companion app dependent devices), etc. You inferring a person has a sizeable stack from a post about OPSEC is a wild deviation, zero correlation whatsoever.
OPSEC? What are we, the marines?
But you making a post about OPSEC makes me suspect you have a lot of bitcoin. Isn’t that bas OPSEC. If we go further posting or subscribing to anything bitcoin is showing you might own something.
I doubt the folks feeling giving such personal and private information like that know what OPSEC even means.
Yep, because we can't find many old posts where people say how many BTC they have on this sub. It's the same number of people that don't care about OPSEC now and the past. In fact this sub never really changes as much as people think it does
If I was serious about OPSEC then I wouldn’t write a post on a sub filled with “I FINALLY OWN X.XX BTC” posts with the intent of raising awareness about OPSEC hygiene? Yeah, that really makes sense.
Okay, someone couldn’t handle the joke, whatever. You can’t just dismiss the social engineering vector because it’s social engineering. It’s inextricably tied to good OPSEC. People nowadays still use SMS for 2FA (as shocking as that might sound it still happens and there are many high profile cases available to research), I am pretty sure people still divulge information in DM’s and then fall victim to scammers too. So yes, social engineering is a vector and it’s an important vector.
I’m 50/50 on this. OPSEC is important, but we need some plebs showing off their stack to get no-coiners eyes to light up and learn about Bitcoin and eventually be orange pilled. Because let’s face it, technology isn’t going to get the average layman to be interested in Bitcoin but like American HODL says, the killer app is “getting fucking rich”.
Think about what exactly? How am I putting myself at risk of losing my btc assuming no info on the acc tying back to me irl? Assuming one has the common sense to not fall for DM scams how exactly is my lack of OPSEC a problem? Please explain it to me. I have 69 btc btw.
I know what OPSEC is…. If you were actually serious about OPSEC you wouldn’t even post this. OPSEC OPSEC
>LMFAO your off the copium…purely delusional. Chainalyis has a 89.71% lead success rate in tracing BCH. Pure ignorance. "Chainalyis" can track Bch as much as BTC, but once you use cash fusion, your privacy is increased significantly. That's why I'm correct, and you are not. >Meanwhile IRS still has bounties on XMR. Two 625K IRS contracts were filed…one by Chainalyis and one by Integra. Interga completely failed but provided “research” and Chainalyis just broke Lighting and got paid in full for that. No one has made any progress in tracing Monero and busts that involved it were due to users with HORRIBLE OPSEC. One kid swapped all his XMR on a CEX to BTC and Finnish law enforcement started claiming they could trace XMR💀 And try to start by making a coherent point without contradicting yourself. Or do your own research?
LMFAO your off the copium…purely delusional. Chainalyis has a 89.71% lead success rate in tracing BCH. Meanwhile IRS still has bounties on XMR. Two 625K IRS contracts were filed…one by Chainalyis and one by Integra. Interga completely failed but provided “research” and Chainalyis just broke Lighting and got paid in full for that. No one has made any progress in tracing Monero and busts that involved it were due to users with HORRIBLE OPSEC. One kid swapped all his XMR on a CEX to BTC and Finnish law enforcement started claiming they could trace XMR💀
This written up a zillion places but I still can’t get it to sink in: will I be able to buy an ER20 coin without paying stupid gas fees? I’ve tried a few times and even arbritum bridging and it always is expensive or doesn’t get me a legit trading pair. I just want to buy AVI and maybe even OPSEC but it feels like I need to get a big bag to justify it! After my first failures I’ve made it a practice to avoid anything on Ethereum network
Decent exposure to AI tokens if I were to add I would probably add OPSEC, VMINT and hopefully some NAI when it completes its IDO on Apeterminal.
If interested in Ethereum-based low-mid caps, there are many DePin projects that are doing exceptionally well. DePin, AI, GPU rental, & decentralization are very popular narratives. For example, I purchased Destra Network’s $DSYNC on 3/15/24 at .0112. Today, it’s increased to 0.435. OPSEC has done extremely well for me too. Some undervalued similar projects I’m looking for a good entry are the newer project Mineshield’s $MNS & ShadowNode’s $SVPN. HashPowerAi $HASH is currently at .01 and is at a perfect entry today.
>He should've, but I doubt it would have saved him. They wanted to make an example of him to keep the masses in line. He should have left the country indefinitely and had decent OPSEC (altoid etc...), but as he mentioned many times he wasn't a drug king pin he was a young naive and short sighted person running a website that explored the limitations of this tech's possibilities and his (in my opinion misguided) libertarian ideals--which is to say closet a Staist. I actually recently re-listened his call during the Miami 2021 conference... it was dark then and even darker now knowing he was thrown in 'the hole' when they found out he spoke that day. Sadly, I think he is never going to be released alive; he is a political prisoner for sure, but the reality is that the circumstances of his trial forced anyone paying attention to see the abject hypocrisy of the legal system in plain sight, moreover the Federal Agents involved who tampered with evidence, stole, extorted etc... were by contrast given light sentences. It was total selective application of the Law, and nothing was going to save him from that--it's the same reason Snowden can't come back to the US despite and wanting to stand trial for what he did, but it's never going to be a fair trial. I really hope he finds solace in this for his own sake, 40 is a milestone year in anyone's life (entry into mid-life) and that he may find peace with everything that has happened because he will has to be the closest thing this tech has made in terms of a martyr--for good or bad.
Buying a purpose-built seed plate from some random business is bad OPSEC. Just DIY it.
Yep it's no different to steel letter stamping approach but with added OPSEC because dice looks less suspicious than a bunch of steel plates with words on them. Only downside is I imagine it's quite small and perhaps easy to lose.
Managing your own funds on your own wallet doesn't mean it will be safe, it will mean you will control all the risks: - Lost, stolen, forgotten Being on your own banks requires a minimum of OPSEC: - Dedicated computer - Dedicated hardware wallets - Off site and on site backups For 5k, I won't take the investment and the risks to manage it myself. For Binance, it is an old one, it survives multiple bear markets, but it has its shabby side. Maybe move it to Coinbase which is a publicly US traded company or even Kraken (kraken isn't publicly traded, but is the real OG) Even split the risks on these 3. My 2ct.
Yeah I mean you might be right and I might regret it. Not really though, I pretty much lost track of my average cost over the last two years so I didn't have that sunk cost fallacy holding me back, I just could see that the money would do better elsewhere. I put it into OPSEC and tripled it within a couple of weeks. I'll only be sad if LRC eventually moons because I was really behind the project and was convinced it would do well, that's why I bought so much more during the bear. It's sad to give up on your dreams 😅😕
Didn't exactly want to shill stuff because a couple of them are small ones on DEX and those are precisely the ones I'm nervous about because you just never know what's going to happen. Also because as soon as you mention stuff people start criticising you for gambling. But I guess we're down here in the comments, and I'm not advising anything... Couple of small ones doing well so far are Website AI, Creso and OPSEC on Uniswap On CEX: VMINT, Zignaly, Fetch, Render have saved me too.
a btc event is only taxable if you have shit OPSEC
Invest in the currently hyped altcoins. Which is mostly AI / De-Pin projects like PAAL, GPU, 0x0, OPSEC, SCALE, .... The trend is your friend, these coins are all sub Billy market cap and will all most likely hit several Billies if the promised alt season comes to us.