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The History of Privacy Coins: Their Rise, Their Adoptions, Their Exploits, And Their Downfalls

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Two Critical Questions (Post SEC-account-hack): Who? & What's Next?

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I understand your point. I’m thinking for beyond me and taking into account the poor OPSEC of my wife. There is no “I have forgot my password” with self custody. Life has changed for me and I need to think beyond myself. If I’m still alive when my kids prove being cypherpunk themselves that’s maybe time for a change. We will see by then.

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I think it’s important to mention that OPSEC is important. Always talk about Bitcoin. Don’t talk about your Bitcoin.

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I made a post about OPSEC which has no reason to not go up 100%: [https://www.reddit.com/user/Ok-Blood-4246/comments/1bznlo4/opsec\_crypto\_to\_5x\_easily\_from\_here/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/user/Ok-Blood-4246/comments/1bznlo4/opsec_crypto_to_5x_easily_from_here/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I have seen enough to know that it can't go wrong. The worst already came, with the FUD and price dropping during btc dip. My target is 10$ but I don't see why it shouldn't go more up. Another interesting one is VELO. go check it out.

AI summer >>>> DeFi summer. To add to your AI picks i will go with more undervalued AI projects like NAI, VMINT and OPSEC.

If you have your seed phrase, you can download any wallet app, and do recover from seed phrase. You need an internet connection as it's downloading and looking up your wallets and balance etc. The reason for the ledger is to store your keys, and prevent any dodgy malware that could have compromised your phone/laptop/computer from detecting you have crypto, stealing your keys or doing stuff like monitoring your clipboard ( copy / paste ) and switching what's stored for a different wallet address For example imagine you have something like exodus on your laptop. You are sending someone some BTC and they provide you their wallet address to send to. You will likely copy this to your clipboard and then go to the app and paste in it and send. What some malware could do is run in the background looking for keys or any sign you have crypto software, and steal keys or detect you have copied a wallet id into your clipboard ready to paste, and instead put its own wallet id in to clipboard so when you paste you send your BTC to someone else. By storing your keys on the device and Ledger not holding them on your computer they are implementing a 2FA. One doesn't work without the other. The above is obviously a big issue for people who don't practice OPSEC very well, or doesn't even bother with basics like antivirus software. However antivirus software wouldn't protect you in a zero day situation. You then have scammers who try tricking you into doing Remote Desktop connection and take over your laptop, these kind of scams are very common and pose the same risks above. The above is why people shouldn't brag on here about how much they have, based on Reddit history etc you can often identify people and you then become a target such campaigns and attacks.

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>How can I as a total novice go about setting this up Buy a modern hardware wallet, I liked both Bitbox02 (Bitcoin Only Edition) and the Coldcard Mk4. Initialize the device, write down your device login/password and your 24 seed words, make a backup copy, stash the backup somewhere secure, off site. Send a small amount of Bitcoin to the wallet, factory reset it, practice re-initializing the device from your seed words. Send a small amount from the wallet to an exchange. If all of that worked fine, you're good to go for six or seven figures easy. Consider using Sparrow Wallet for the software portion (the UI/interface), it's a great desktop wallet that works awesome with most modern wallets. Basic OPSEC, don’t go around talking to people about how great Bitcoin is. Just get rich quietly. That's it, that's all you need to do. Your 24 word seed *is* your Bitcoin. Do nothing, for years, a four year cycle or two. When it comes time to retire, maybe you buy a fancy new hardware wallet and set it up with your seed words, maybe your Coldcard still works totally fine. Hope that helps!

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Please stop using the word OPSEC like you know what you are talking about. I haven't posted any sensitive information at all except I have almost 3 Bitcoin which is unconfirmed information by the way. Maybe I have zero Bitcoin. You didn't even think of that did you? I didn't say any anything about 2FA having anything to do with OPSEC so let's not play that game of making up things I said. You are right it is possible I could lose my Bitcoin like what could happen to anyone else BUT it won't be because I said have almost 3 Bitcoin in a random Reddit thread.

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Are you comfortable ordering a cold card to your home address or for OPSEC would you advise receiving it somewhere else?

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Im maxi ETH but had some money today to buy some bag differents..bought me a bag (MEME), (ONDO) and (OPSEC)..the last one looks interesting new upcoming project. We shall see..

Ok, I've been buying since 2014 or so, here's my two cents. Buy a modern hardware wallet, I liked both Bitbox02 (Bitcoin Only Edition) and the Coldcard Mk4. Initialize the device, write down your device login/password and your 24 seed words, make a backup copy, stash the backup somewhere secure, off site. Send a small amount of Bitcoin to the wallet, factory reset it, practice re-initializing the device from your seed words. Send a small amount from the wallet to an exchange. If all of that worked fine, you're good to go for six or seven figures easy. You don't need a passphrase, or multisig, or metal plates, or three friends to hold a portion of your seed words or a linux laptop, that's all overkill, you're straying into paranoia. You \*do\* need Sparrow Wallet, it's a great desktop wallet that works awesome with most modern wallets. Basic OPSEC: don't talk about Bitcoin with people around you, friends, family, coworkers, just play dumb. Get rich quietly. That's it, that's all you need to do. Your 24 word seed \*is\* your Bitcoin. Stop worrying, obsessing, wondering what if. Relax. Do nothing, for years, a four year cycle or two. When it comes time to retire, maybe you buy a fancy new hardware wallet and set it up with your seed words, maybe your Coldcard still works totally fine. Hope that helps.

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In my opinion, I will go for undervalued AI assets like OPSEC, NAI and BLENDR as i believe they will offer better return.

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OPSEC is a term frequently used by many well known publications and service providers when discussing bitcoin security. But I understand, you may well be a newbie to bitcoin, and may not necessarily be aware of the context of this term wrt bitcoin, and for that reason you may think it “sounds dumb” (like many other newbies do) and that’s perfectly fine. We all start somewhere. 1. https://blog.casa.io/7-ways-to-level-up-your-bitcoin-opsec/ 2. https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/opsec 3. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/james-bond-learning-bitcoin-opsec-tips 4. https://www.coindesk.com/tag/opsec/ 5. https://education.compassmining.io/education/opsecmanual/

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Thanks for the post, it a useful reminder about what we put online. Although, using here the world OPSEC sounds kinda dumb. It’s not the army or an active military operation.

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OP is some airman that is just really excited to tell Reddit the new word he learned in some class today…OPSEC. Bet dollars to donuts he tinders and snaps on all his TDY

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What’s OPSEC. Makes you sound cool and all, but I don’t know what it stands for.

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Erm, yeah but no? Reputable sources write about it, verbatim, and back before this sub was filled with strange people, some of who think a post with < 500 upvotes on Reddit is capable of tanking the global bitcoin market by 5-10%, bitcoin OPSEC was commonly and frequently discussed. It really isn’t difficult to use Google. But congrats to you working in intel, I suppose 👏

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OP can't come up with a case suggesting: > There are plenty of explanations in the comments. Feel free to accept them, or not. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2cmal/people_have_terrible_opsec/kz9px3l/ This is the best (and only?) suggestion in the topic for how "poor reddit OPSEC" could put us at risk. Do you have other suggestions for how it could put us at risk even if they are as unlikely as this? This whole discussion is ridiculous.

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The point is practice good OPSEC, don't be complacent, and don't assume that details that are innocuous on their own are going to be innocuous in aggregate.

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“Let’s go wrench attack that guy who wears a fedora and always talks about OPSEC. Probably has some Bitcoins.”

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Bad OPSEC works both ways and it can be to your advantage. I make a post that I have 50 bitcoin and photo shop an image of my ledger wallet. Then I start posting images of my car with license plate. Only problem is.... I am not posting a pic with my car and home, but the idiot who tried to wrongfully sue me. Use all the resources of the internet to achieve all your goals.

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Or it could be that many people are doing OPSEC by staying silent. (oops, I blew it!)

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$OPSEC 🚀 🚀 🚀

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And God forbid OP doesn’t just say security. I guess we want to be cool. I used to work in intel and I don’t even say OPSEC 🤣

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You said enough information for me to know that you hold a pretty good value of BTC. You don’t need to tell me how much exactly, but with your message and declarations, I know you have. Bad OPSEC there.

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tf is OPSEC

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The username could be used on 20 different platforms but it's not very relevant if no real personal information is being posted on said platforms. It's not bad "OPSEC" to post how much Bitcoin one owns by itself. I have almost three Bitcoins BTW. It's only an issue if one is doing things like their username contains part of their real name, posting your actual picture as your avatar, DMs enabled, 2FA disabled, and using you primary email address while not properly securing your Bitcoin. Stats will show poor people get robbed more than rich people. Why? We all know where the rich people live in our locality right? It's simply because rich folks have better locks, other security, more aware neighbors while generally not living among criminals.

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That’s your assumption. That’s not bad OPSEC. Discussing basic issues around OPSEC on r/Bitcoin isn’t a cardinal sin, in fact I’d argue it’s incumbent on anyone who is serious about bitcoin to disseminate a message about good security practices and good operational hygiene, things like making sure keys are protected by HW devices, the types of HW devices that are technically sound vs those that aren’t (i.e. open source, offline and air-gapped vs bad companion app dependent devices), etc. You inferring a person has a sizeable stack from a post about OPSEC is a wild deviation, zero correlation whatsoever.

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OPSEC? What are we, the marines?

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But you making a post about OPSEC makes me suspect you have a lot of bitcoin. Isn’t that bas OPSEC. If we go further posting or subscribing to anything bitcoin is showing you might own something.

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I doubt the folks feeling giving such personal and private information like that know what OPSEC even means.

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Yep, because we can't find many old posts where people say how many BTC they have on this sub. It's the same number of people that don't care about OPSEC now and the past. In fact this sub never really changes as much as people think it does

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If I was serious about OPSEC then I wouldn’t write a post on a sub filled with “I FINALLY OWN X.XX BTC” posts with the intent of raising awareness about OPSEC hygiene? Yeah, that really makes sense.

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Okay, someone couldn’t handle the joke, whatever. You can’t just dismiss the social engineering vector because it’s social engineering. It’s inextricably tied to good OPSEC. People nowadays still use SMS for 2FA (as shocking as that might sound it still happens and there are many high profile cases available to research), I am pretty sure people still divulge information in DM’s and then fall victim to scammers too. So yes, social engineering is a vector and it’s an important vector.

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I’m 50/50 on this. OPSEC is important, but we need some plebs showing off their stack to get no-coiners eyes to light up and learn about Bitcoin and eventually be orange pilled. Because let’s face it, technology isn’t going to get the average layman to be interested in Bitcoin but like American HODL says, the killer app is “getting fucking rich”.

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Think about what exactly? How am I putting myself at risk of losing my btc assuming no info on the acc tying back to me irl? Assuming one has the common sense to not fall for DM scams how exactly is my lack of OPSEC a problem? Please explain it to me. I have 69 btc btw.

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I know what OPSEC is…. If you were actually serious about OPSEC you wouldn’t even post this. OPSEC OPSEC

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What the hell is OPSEC

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>LMFAO your off the copium…purely delusional. Chainalyis has a 89.71% lead success rate in tracing BCH. Pure ignorance. "Chainalyis" can track Bch as much as BTC, but once you use cash fusion, your privacy is increased significantly. That's why I'm correct, and you are not. >Meanwhile IRS still has bounties on XMR. Two 625K IRS contracts were filed…one by Chainalyis and one by Integra. Interga completely failed but provided “research” and Chainalyis just broke Lighting and got paid in full for that. No one has made any progress in tracing Monero and busts that involved it were due to users with HORRIBLE OPSEC. One kid swapped all his XMR on a CEX to BTC and Finnish law enforcement started claiming they could trace XMR💀 And try to start by making a coherent point without contradicting yourself. Or do your own research?

LMFAO your off the copium…purely delusional. Chainalyis has a 89.71% lead success rate in tracing BCH. Meanwhile IRS still has bounties on XMR. Two 625K IRS contracts were filed…one by Chainalyis and one by Integra. Interga completely failed but provided “research” and Chainalyis just broke Lighting and got paid in full for that. No one has made any progress in tracing Monero and busts that involved it were due to users with HORRIBLE OPSEC. One kid swapped all his XMR on a CEX to BTC and Finnish law enforcement started claiming they could trace XMR💀

This written up a zillion places but I still can’t get it to sink in: will I be able to buy an ER20 coin without paying stupid gas fees? I’ve tried a few times and even arbritum bridging and it always is expensive or doesn’t get me a legit trading pair. I just want to buy AVI and maybe even OPSEC but it feels like I need to get a big bag to justify it! After my first failures I’ve made it a practice to avoid anything on Ethereum network

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Decent exposure to AI tokens if I were to add I would probably add OPSEC, VMINT and hopefully some NAI when it completes its IDO on Apeterminal.

If interested in Ethereum-based low-mid caps, there are many DePin projects that are doing exceptionally well. DePin, AI, GPU rental, & decentralization are very popular narratives. For example, I purchased Destra Network’s $DSYNC on 3/15/24 at .0112. Today, it’s increased to 0.435. OPSEC has done extremely well for me too. Some undervalued similar projects I’m looking for a good entry are the newer project Mineshield’s $MNS & ShadowNode’s $SVPN. HashPowerAi $HASH is currently at .01 and is at a perfect entry today.

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>He should've, but I doubt it would have saved him. They wanted to make an example of him to keep the masses in line. He should have left the country indefinitely and had decent OPSEC (altoid etc...), but as he mentioned many times he wasn't a drug king pin he was a young naive and short sighted person running a website that explored the limitations of this tech's possibilities and his (in my opinion misguided) libertarian ideals--which is to say closet a Staist. I actually recently re-listened his call during the Miami 2021 conference... it was dark then and even darker now knowing he was thrown in 'the hole' when they found out he spoke that day. Sadly, I think he is never going to be released alive; he is a political prisoner for sure, but the reality is that the circumstances of his trial forced anyone paying attention to see the abject hypocrisy of the legal system in plain sight, moreover the Federal Agents involved who tampered with evidence, stole, extorted etc... were by contrast given light sentences. It was total selective application of the Law, and nothing was going to save him from that--it's the same reason Snowden can't come back to the US despite and wanting to stand trial for what he did, but it's never going to be a fair trial. I really hope he finds solace in this for his own sake, 40 is a milestone year in anyone's life (entry into mid-life) and that he may find peace with everything that has happened because he will has to be the closest thing this tech has made in terms of a martyr--for good or bad.

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Buying a purpose-built seed plate from some random business is bad OPSEC. Just DIY it.

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Yep it's no different to steel letter stamping approach but with added OPSEC because dice looks less suspicious than a bunch of steel plates with words on them. Only downside is I imagine it's quite small and perhaps easy to lose.

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Managing your own funds on your own wallet doesn't mean it will be safe, it will mean you will control all the risks: - Lost, stolen, forgotten Being on your own banks requires a minimum of OPSEC: - Dedicated computer - Dedicated hardware wallets - Off site and on site backups For 5k, I won't take the investment and the risks to manage it myself. For Binance, it is an old one, it survives multiple bear markets, but it has its shabby side. Maybe move it to Coinbase which is a publicly US traded company or even Kraken (kraken isn't publicly traded, but is the real OG) Even split the risks on these 3. My 2ct.

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Yeah I mean you might be right and I might regret it. Not really though, I pretty much lost track of my average cost over the last two years so I didn't have that sunk cost fallacy holding me back, I just could see that the money would do better elsewhere. I put it into OPSEC and tripled it within a couple of weeks. I'll only be sad if LRC eventually moons because I was really behind the project and was convinced it would do well, that's why I bought so much more during the bear. It's sad to give up on your dreams 😅😕

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OPSEC, fingers crossed

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Didn't exactly want to shill stuff because a couple of them are small ones on DEX and those are precisely the ones I'm nervous about because you just never know what's going to happen. Also because as soon as you mention stuff people start criticising you for gambling. But I guess we're down here in the comments, and I'm not advising anything... Couple of small ones doing well so far are Website AI, Creso and OPSEC on Uniswap On CEX: VMINT, Zignaly, Fetch, Render have saved me too.

Higher caps can't go wrong with any of TAO, RNDR, FET or AKT. Low caps with a ton of potential: GPU, OPSEC, KNDX (this last one is partnered with Nvidia and going to GTC 2024 so nuff said).

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a btc event is only taxable if you have shit OPSEC

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Invest in the currently hyped altcoins. Which is mostly AI / De-Pin projects like PAAL, GPU, 0x0, OPSEC, SCALE, .... The trend is your friend, these coins are all sub Billy market cap and will all most likely hit several Billies if the promised alt season comes to us.

Depends on how many people know you have it and whether you live in a place where this is likely to happen. Is more of an OPSEC issue than a security issue.

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Jesus Christ, I know... Look at it now. My overall portfolio has gone up about 60% in the last two days mostly thanks to BTC and OPSEC... I'm just hanging in there hoping for no surprises! Had a small amount in from about .20 cents which is already up about 7x and then I pulled even more out of my dying LRC bag and put it in at .50 cents. I've already made back my losses on that. >Hoping for it not to go all south, Me too 🤣, like I said before, I'm no expert, I just got lucky on Twitter and it looked legit but how can you really tell? I mean, if a team is dodgy then how far do they let things run before a rug-pull? And then the other possibility, that they're legit, but don't build what they say they're going to build, I guess. I'm in the Telegram chat, I've been asking about what is up and running and what's still in the pipeline, but I'm not too clear. Oh well, hope you got in early enough with enough to make it worthwhile and that it turns out to be as good as it's looking so far!

OPSEC on Uniswap

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

Put yourself in Satoshi's shoes You've been aware of the need to have digital cash on-line since 1997 (the AOL years, when SSL was invented). You had an egold account, have a casual 2-line email chat to the egold founder a few times per year. He is arrested You zoom out, and identify two things about egold's destruction by violent threat of the state * it was centralized * despite assurances by regulators that it was legal, FBI jackboots shut it down, and filed criminal charges It is May, 2007 You respond to the centralization observation by beginning to design and code a decentralized digital cash, with a whack-a-mole approach to regulatory attack. If one node is shut down, the others are unaffected. The system keeps working You respond to the criminal prosecution of the egold founder by researching the OPSEC principles of anonymity Design and code for a year and a half. Announce. Attract some helpers. Launch All goes well. A couple of coders help with debugging and a Linux version. Hundreds of people volunteer to mine blocks. Hardly any transactions in the first year (2009). Still anonymous 2010 brings users and some attempts at price discovery. Mining moves to GPU. Miners form pools. In December, Wikileaks is attacked with unlawful payment blockades. A discussion suggests "Bitcoin fixes this" You're afraid. The anonymity protection is intact, but untested, because Bitcoin isn't famous yet. If adopted by Wikileaks, it becomes famous. You warn against this. It doesn't happen (yet) In March, 2011 another digital cash founder is found guilty. You feel that you're next. You send a final message to a member of the team > impulse control and self control after making the decision to go dark Not true. Satoshi has the common sense to stay anonymous to avoid the same fate as Douglas Jakson and Bernard von NotHaus Also, Wikileaks adopted Bitcoin a few months after Satoshi retired. Would Satoshi like to be appearing alongside Julian Assange facing the USA regime's fake espionage charges?

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

#OPSEC 😎

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Fair point about Web AI. I don't have as much of that as OPSEC. It seems like a useful tool though if it works. I've bought enough to get a few free trials so I'll give it a go soon. The other one I liked is Zignaly which is on a few CEX. AI trader copying type thing. I signed up for the actual Zignaly app and it looked like something that people would use, plus the Twitter crew are shilling it, unlike the music platform one. Anyway, good luck with OPSEC. I hope it helps but don't come looking for me if it all goes south 😅 By the way, in the TG they're talking about presenting at some conference, ETH DENVER I think on the 29th. So might be worth getting in before then. Anyway

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A lot to take into consideration. I think you are right that we are early in the cycle so that should be a safety net for most projects. Next you have to consider the narrative and if it's a project that is just going through a hype cycle or if it's got legs to stand on for awhile. I looked up OPSEC and it has me intrigued. What particularly has you excited about it?

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OPSEC

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About 60% BTC and 20% ETH. Also DOT, ADA, RNDR, FETCH, IMX, OPSEC, WEBAI, CRESO, VMINT, PLANET, ZIG and a handful of memes, just in case.

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Coldcard requires a 2 stage pin. Up to 12 total numbers. The first stage produces a short phrase, unique to each device, to protect against the evil made or man in the middle attack. On top of that, the Coldcard supports adding a passphrase, or some refer to it as the “25th word” (it can be more than 1 word and include special Characters, fwiu, but YMMV). On top of that, the Coldcard can stay offline indefinitely. It uses PSBTs (Partially Signed Bitcoin Transaction) via microSD cards to sign transactions, and a wallet interface on your computer to broadcast them. The case is translucent, with schematics published from the producer, Coinkite, so you can verify every transistor. It bricks after 10 failed PIN attempts. The company is Bitcoin only. They focus on privacy and OPSEC. Highly recommend it.

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r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

OPSEC and Webai looking good. Still on the DEXes

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

Right? OP clearly only cares about the money and doesn’t care to protect his OPSEC

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

RIP your inbox. I hope you’re not susceptible to phishing attacks, but this OPSEC blunder shows your hand a bit.

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

> If there is some way, anyway, you can remember or otherwise store or transmit yourself 12 words, your money is yours?????? Yes, the SCOTUS ruling granting CBP authority to compel passwords was narrow. There are limits to the speech they can compel. They cannot force you to "testify" to secrets that are not physically manifest. Your allowed to lie, but if they ask for a phone pin, they can keep you indefinitely until pin you provide unlocks successfully. Decoy wallets and passphrases (see SLIP-10) also work. But these are all properties of OPSEC, not bitcoin per se. Worded differently, CBP can compel you to divulge SOME secrets, before crossing a checkpoint ensure your keys are not one of those secrets they can legally extract.

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

normally it’s considered bad practice because it’s poor OPSEC for you and the people you’ve transacted with, and Satoshi even says not to do it..but as a custodian for large players, they are using the transparency as proof of funds. As long as they are using multi sig or some solid key handling, they’ll be ok.

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That’s literally how exchanges work… how would using Monero with an account that is attached to your real identity keep those interactions private? In terms of OPSEC, that is a complete user error. The privacy you get while using Monero on a KYC exchange is not knowing the coins previous transaction history, which is still very important.

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Yer in most of his writing he comes across as pretty paranoid. Like if his identity was known the authorities could come after him. I think he’s be doing everything he can to not reveal his identity. OPSEC for the currency wars. The one true general of a new world order.

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r/BitcoinSee Comment

I sure do, even if I was doxxed I wouldn’t worry about it, we’re talking a square yard on 48 acres, and central Virginia is a pretty broad location, I understand the need for OPSEC but I think people worry too much about things that they’re 10x more likely to fuck up themselves

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