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You could also just keep assets in a hardware wallet and use a wallet like Solflare for managing or staking while keeping the keys secure. Many people handle inheritance by leaving clear instructions for family or using multisig instead of setting up a complex LLC. The Wyoming structure is interesting, but most holders keep it simpler.
if this is true, so sorry!🫤 & definitely not a good look for NDAX as it would be following a pattern other crashing platforms have also demonstrated. which is why there are so many warnings to, as much as possible, never leave crypto funds on a centralized platform. there are ways to invest &/or hold our assets where we maintain control over them: decentralize finance sites. and I can see in their profile that they say they're an NDAX mod but is the one who replied to you also an NDAX *employee* who replied to you in this thread? because otherwise how would they know anything about the details of your exact situation or that of others? why are they getting out of commenting on NDAX's behalf about an actual NDAX account status? as being a forum mod doesn't necessarily equate to having such access & if they do know exactly who you are *and* if they're an employee with such access & information they should at least say they work for NDAX but of course, without breaking confidentiality by revealing your personal, sensitive details. because that would be another red flag.🚩🚩 I just hate hearing such reportings and maybe it's *not* true but most people don't have reasons to fake such a bad experience because far too many individuals have posted about situations like that & it didn't end well for them re: not getting their funds returned to them I mean, a lot of platforms complained about did end up going bankrupt [or just 'simply' rug pulling their account holders]. and all of the ones I've watched over the years that had multiple complaints like yours [from different forum members on the various socials sites] *did* end up imploding not long after those complaints began to pile up. so, I just wanted to offer a bit of moral support & hope this somehow gets resolved, that you get a happy outcome.🕯️🎆 Best of the Good Luck to you..🤞🍀🧧🎋 P.S. & what I'm posting below didn't help instill confidence either: *"Here is why your search likely yielded limited results: WHOIS Redaction (GDPR Compliance): Following global privacy regulations, most registrars automatically redact personal information for domains, showing "Redacted" for registrant names, email addresses, and phone numbers. Privacy Protection: The domain is registered with GoDaddy.com, LLC, which offers private registration services that hide the true owner's identity."* because what's the point of members of the public supposedly being able to look up domain registration info in order to try to do an investigation re: the veracity of business owners if we can no longer see who they are? and the appearance/production design of the website isn't very inspiring. really hope they haven't been playing 'the long game.'
Latest filing today for the Morgan Stanley Bitcoin Trust ETF: "The Bank of New York Mellon (“BNY”) and Coinbase Custody Trust Company, LLC are the bitcoin custodians for the Trust and will hold all of the Trust’s bitcoin on the Trust’s behalf." Why this matters: Morgan Stanley has $8 trillion in advisory assets, even a 1% allocation is $80 billion in flows which is more than current ETFs Regardless your feelings about ETFs or Bitcoin, “skate to where the puck is going” or get left behind
I'm still waiting on my paperwork to clear for my LLC to do DCA with Coinbase, i've been waiting forever lol I can still use my personal account though, but I might just try for a kraken business account, idk (I want to keep everything separate for personal and future reasons)
Isaid LLC because that’s the international term for a BV, it stands for limited liability company. The tax rate on investing through a BV is slightly higher yes, but the power of compounding and not having to sell your assets is very powerfull. Furthermore, you can borrow from your BV, which yes you pay interest on, but all that interest goes back into the BV anyways. Just delay taxes indefinitely and then just find retirement out if your BV. The cost of the BV is too high for the average investor.
If you have over a million dollars in crypto that you want to “liquidate” and for sommme mysterious reason you don’t want your name/ID/or fingerprints anywhere on it, then you’re either holding dirty money or trying to commit tax evasion, but either way it is still possible, you just have to do it the old fashioned criminal way: money launder. Set up front businesses and LLC’s offshore via lawyers so that your name isn’t on the documents. You can still go the crypto to cash direct route through certain “brokers” (ie money launderers), I’ve heard of darknet market vendors doing it this way, but it involves the process of finding brokers that you trust, usually at recommendation from other high level dealers and criminals who already have laundry services running
Lol what, this law would mostly impact the middle class. Billionaires aren’t really paying it as they usually invest through their LLC
Institutional interest is starting to wane you can see this in the microstrategies stock Recent 13F filings lagging disclosures reveal a clear pattern of mid-sized investors reducing or fully exiting Strategy positions. Angeles Wealth Management and Wealth Watch Advisors both exited completely, cutting their holdings by 100%. Caitlin John LLC reduced its position by 96.54%, leaving only a negligible stake. Other major investors followed similar paths. Kovitz Investment Group cut its share count by 19.31%, while the value of its holdings fell nearly 62%. Atomi Financial Group also reduced its exposure by 18.61%, with its position value dropping more than 61%. Even firms that maintained positions suffered heavy losses. Invesco increased its holdings by 14.12%, but the total value of its investment still fell by over 46%.
Institutional interest is starting to wane you can see this in the microstrategies stock Recent 13F filings lagging disclosures reveal a clear pattern of mid-sized investors reducing or fully exiting Strategy positions. Angeles Wealth Management and Wealth Watch Advisors both exited completely, cutting their holdings by 100%. Caitlin John LLC reduced its position by 96.54%, leaving only a negligible stake. Other major investors followed similar paths. Kovitz Investment Group cut its share count by 19.31%, while the value of its holdings fell nearly 62%. Atomi Financial Group also reduced its exposure by 18.61%, with its position value dropping more than 61%. Even firms that maintained positions suffered heavy losses. Invesco increased its holdings by 14.12%, but the total value of its investment still fell by over 46%.
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They “had to pass the law due to time constraints, but pinky promise: they were not happy and they will look into amending it”. Nothing so permanent as a temporary law. Like the ‘kwartje van Kok’: the temporary raise of the excise by on fuel (which was in 25 cents in Guilders / about €0.11) in ‘91. Implicated as temporary when passing, but in fact permanent. And in hindsight looking at the documents and interviews the word temporary was not used. They also frame this change as part of the idea of ‘the strongest shoulders bearing the highest loads’ which in theory sounds nice when you’re progressive/left/socialist, but in practice it’s the upper middle class bearing the brunt of it. The top class just puts in an LLC (BV) or even in a different country. One of the things is: pensions are exempt. But a lot of the self-employed want to invest themself, which also falls under this law. This fucking sucks, because a lot are sole proprietors: there is no legal distinction between the person’s assets and the business. Screw you if you want to use compounding intrest to take care of yourself when you are shuffling around with a walker. And it’s already tough, because they changed (or rather are now enforcing) the way a freelancer fiscally /tax-wise can be regarded as an employee instead of as a contractor. This would be great for the contractors with a low hourly rate (some companies went from employees to ‘be a contractor’, avoiding all the protections an employee has), but for contractors on the higher end makes business hard: income tax can be clawed back on the full sum at the company hiring the contractors, so companies are afraid to hire a (temp) contractor. All under the guise of ‘we are trying to protect people being abused by corps’, well, I don’t feel abused. And there’s not a lot of case law as of yet. Look, I was OK with paying tax (really)! But I’m now feeling personally targeted with this (and other) bullshit happening, ESPECIALLY while old money/top class and large corporations can make a break for the tax-exit. And with our government enacting Idiocracy 2.0 makes me not happy about how are tax euros are being thrown around anyway. The kicker: there’s an advice to raise the salaries of politicians by 18% over 3 years. The fucking audacity. There are ways to protect your money from this unrealized gains tax (by keeping it in your LLC/BV and investing it there), and you bet your ass I will look into all the legal ways to pay the least tax as possible.
And almost certainly entirely avoidable for the rich (put assets in a trust or LLC based in Ireland) meanwhile, the rest of us get boned.
You just need a web 3 decentralized wallet and LLC combined that's the maximum security
It gets even worse trust me. The unrealized gains tax starts at 54k euros invested. Which is obviously nothing. However this tax, the way that it is written, only affects normal poor to middle class people. It does not in any way affect rich people. Who can have an accountant setup basically an LLC either in the Netherlands or in a different country and transfer stock ownership to that, avoiding the taxes fully legally. I know that because my accountant told me not to worry which is insane. They took one of the most progressive taxes in the world and turned it into a regressive one. Leave it to libs and concervatives to cook up the most low IQ ideas as usual.
Not having fiscal residence there? Holding the assets through an LLC in a tax haven?
I'm going to stop procrastinating and try to do my first DCA for my LLC starting tomorrow hopefully if I get my ID. I've been trying to figure out how to do it without my license (I don't want to use my personal bank account / CC details, but I want to use my business banking or my business CCs). I lost my driver's license ID last week, and I went to get a new one but i'm still waiting, and i'm guessing with the snowstorm from last week, the mail's running late I like Coinbase, but i'm thinking of maybe doing Kraken, but I dunno yet. My personal crypto will be separate though
I tried doing the whole not working thing for a while but eventually I ended up getting out of the house and it helped my mental state immensely (alot of stuff happened over the last few years), and I met several people who couldn't do the whole sitting around the house thing as well ironically I'm doing better now emotionally, but i'm planning to put as much effort as I can into my company, and then once this is up and running, i'm going to leave both of my w2 jobs and just chill back at my childhood home (it's a 3 bedroom). I plan to leave my LLC to my daughter in the future though (which is why I went back to work, in addition to trying to make new friends) and all the extra money is nice too since the cost of living went up alot since covid
I'll probably start on Monday, but i'm planning to just set up auto buys for my LLC. I still haven't decided on doing weekly, monthly or bi-weekly yet though
Nah, I'm generally happy with my current investments and i'm still up a good amount compared to when I got into crypto. My LLC is for me now, but also it's for those to come after me. I want to have a daughter one day, and all that I collect now will probably be hers...maybe she'll join future crypto, metal and stockbros in celebrating :) I do have some gold from back when it was like $1xxx, but I haven't touched it since people started frothing at the mouth trying to trip over each other for profit lol
I hope silver drops back down to like 20$ and gold back down to like $1k or so. I'm gonna be setting up recurring purchases for them soon for my LLC, along with Bitcoin, and maybe a few other things I got around $15,000 set aside for purchases. It's not much, but it's a start (I don't want to touch metals rn though since all of that euphoria scares me)
Secured some funding for my LLC, and sitting in the house again today. Eyyo i'm enjoying this downtime. Been out of work since like Saturday lol How's everyone doing today?
To keep your "physical" bitcoin in a cold wallet in an IRA, you'd have to open a Bitcoin IRA. I did this with Madison Trust (https://www.madisontrust.com/). Once Madison Trust sets up the LLC Trust, you then have to open an account that's owned by this trust at an exchange (coinbase or kraken, for example). You'll also have to open a checking account owned by this Trust IRA. You'd then sell the btc in your IRA and then transfer the money to Madison Trust. (this keeps that money inside of the IRA since it's custodian-to-custodian transfer and NOT become a taxable event) Once the money is in your Madison Trust account, you then request a distribution to your IRA-owned bank account. You then transfer the money from that bank to your IRA-owned account at the exchange (coinbase or kraken). You then purchase the bitcoin and then you can transfer it to your cold wallet (sending a test amt at first to verify, of course). Now you have your bitcoin in an IRA in a wallet. This can be a cold wallet or whatever you like. OR you can just purchase IBIT in your IRA. lol
i’m going to be investing through an LLC i think, then i’m exempt from this
first €1800 is an exemption, but that’s almost nothing. If you have a 30k portfolio and market goes up 20% in a year you’re already above the exemption (it’s a 36% tax rate on unrealized gains) Across the board it’s a HUGE tax hike on pretty much anyone. There are ways to get around it through an LLC which all the rich will probably do, so this is mostly just another fuck you to the middle class
Post is by: sousou4893 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1qi8nrx/cryptos_getting_serious_does_that_mean_i_need_an/ I've been pretty active with crypto over the past few years like trading, holding, and some side income, and it's gotten to the point where it doesn't really feel like a "hobby" anymore. I'm starting to think I should legitimize it somehow instead of just winging it every tax season. I've been reading about setting up an LLC for crypto, mostly for organization and peace of mind, and to separate things a bit better. While going down that rabbit hole, I came across Digital Ascension Group and saw that they help with crypto-related LLC setups. I've never done anything like this before, so I'm trying to figure out if it's actually useful or just extra paperwork and costs. Has anyone here set up an LLC specifically for crypto activity? Did it make things clearer or easier in the long run, or did you end up regretting the hassle? Would love to hear some real experiences before I go any further. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Hedera governing council members pay a small amount like $100 usd for their seat in council and part of LLC. Seats rotate out every 3 years, but members can serve 2 consecutive terms, before having to leave. Council members don't get paid millions of HBAR for their GC role, but there are a few board members who are remunerated for their work. And yes, HBAR grants are provided to projects building on the network, but subject to KPIs etc. just like most other networks with native token treasuries looking to support development. It's a professionally run network with excellent tech backed by mathematical proofs and its open source too via Linux Foundation Decentralised Trust. Hedera is not the only solid DLT network around, but it's done the hard work positioning itself. Worth another look unless your teeth need a bit more filing.
I have a single-member Wyoming LLC with the ownership assigned to a Trust for asset holding (several other things besides just crypto). I initially used a company called Anderson Advisors for the set up to ensure everything was created and filed properly, then from there my Accountant now handles the required annual taxes. If the LLC is only used to manage assets and investments and write off expenses, and you won’t be “doing business” with the public, then there is no real need to file in your home state. And Crypto is no different from any other asset fundamentally, so if you have concerns about disclosing that you own crypto to a consultant just say that you want to control password access to the company brokerage accounts and other holdings in a structured way according to the directions outlined in the Trust. Whatever you do from there whether it be drawing a treasure map to a buried pirate chest, a decoder ring message from Ovaltine, a series of clues scattered around like National Treasure, or just tell your family that there’s always money in the banana stand, that’s up to you on the level of excitement and security you want to be remembered for.
You still own the corporation and the corporation is an attack surface for legal attacks. That does absolutely nothing to help you if someone goes after you. Your corporate assets are vulnerable . Llc or other wrappers only protest you from llc>you. You>LLC is still vulnerable.
Haven't used it for filing that exactly but Wyoming is my go to for filing LLC. $125ish takes minutes online and works
No, an even better move is to open up an LLC, take the loan out under the business name then if things go bad you can file a business bankruptcy instead of a personal bankruptcy. Just make sure you are a personal guarantor.
Ah crap, I have a LLC and I want to do biweekly / weekly purchases of crypto but I keep forgetting to set it up, I should do it tonight. I already have automatic purchases for me, I just want to do it for my LLC too
Oh ye, thanks for reminding me. I have auto-purchases set up for myself, but for my LLC i've been meaning to work on doing a weekly purchase in crypto too, I started on it yesterday but I got lazy lol
Just a reminder - Hedera is more decentralized than Ethereum, Bitcoin, and other blockchains. In Hedera, we have (up to 39) transparently known collusion-resistant validators, who own the network via LLC, and are located in different countries, under different governments, in different industries, ran on different hardware, building different use cases, term limited, with meeting minutes and meeting attendees made public, treasury reports all public, with no node ever being able to control more than 2.5% of the network, every node participating in every transaction, all transactions fairly ordered with valid timestamps (no MEV), and with the network's entire open-source code donated to a 3rd party for decentralized meritocracy-based development (Linux Foundation). In Ethereum, they have no way to control massive staking providers like Lido, Coinbase, and now even the ETFs which are going to begin staking. It is inevitible they only become more and more centralized over time. Also, in Ethereum they have leaders which means they have frontrunning (MEV); in other words, they give *one validator* the ability to arbitrarily reorder transactions inside the block and profit off of it. This is your "decentralized chain" - allowing one person to steal money from any user on the network. Hedera and $HBAR will win. Don't midcurve this.
Honestly i've been kinda busy despite it being new years. I've been doing some stuff for my LLC company, along with starting on a bunch of my new years goals
Me too, I have the track record of paying rent and all my bills for years and years, but I work for myself and I don’t have an LLC (yet) so I don’t have paychecks, no paychecks = you ain’t getting a CC period, even with 100k in the bank I use and applied through… what are ya gonna do! LLC!! Soon, and for “other” reasons as well obviously..
I thought about this exact question the other day. I’d take out a personal loan and build a mining rig and spend the rest to outright buy as much coin as possible. Maybe form an LLC with friends and pool resources. Build up an insane wallet and wait to cash out. It’d be better than winning the lottery at this point.
A house. Remt it out, get tax deductions, leverage it, wrap it in a policy, and buy Bitcoin... them cross collateralize it, LLC it, and buy more BTC.
I mean your monetary value has to be stored somewhere, it's not really of the bank like it's not of Bitcoin LLC ... in the end if I commit anything they'll size my crypto like anything else, and to use them for daily anything have to go through fiat anyway unfortunately
Sir how did you buy that ferrari on your £60k/yr job? “Sorry this iss from an LLC based in Switzerland that i am just doing maintenance and storage for. They pay licensing and registration for the vehicle”
Ron Wayne is a loser, big cry baby he did an interview in Las Vegas a few months ago. He sold out early so his misfortune stop crying, there were multiple options to use a WY DE LLC constructions even then, you just needed the right lawyers to protect your assets. Even Wozniak joked about the poor man https://youtu.be/hPyI_RtHFGU?si=HrnQR1e9im1ekK7i
Move littlel at a time first, triple check addresses, keep backups. or trusts/LLC stuff, idk maybe a lawyer who knows crypto is your best bet. You could play around in a web3 wallet if u want, but stash the real bags in cold
The real people with big amounts transfer BTC with offshore LLC LTD. Nobody is stupid to just move BTC and buy a house without protecting his assets, if he pays in full he/she would never do it in private name. Sorry the person that does that is retarded or doesn't use an accountant for his finances, and is again stupid.
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Some folks set things up through a trust or LLC to keep it cleaner for inheritance and taxes Groups like [DAG](https://www.dagfamilyoffice.com/our-services/llc-entity-formation/) handle this kind of stuff all the time. It might be worth chatting with someone specialized if you're trying to set things up long-term without triggering tax headaches :))
Hmm I'd say it really depends how complex your holdings are. For some folks, putting crypto in an LLC can help organize things better, especially if you're thinking long term or planning for inheritance
Post is by: bassplayercliff and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1pfaznx/looking_for_real_experiences_with_entityowned/ I’ve been reading about how higher net worth families treat crypto more like real estate. I’m not asking for legal advice, just market-side experience If you’ve moved part of your stack into an LLC or trust setup, how did it affect your ability to borrow against it or use it as collateral later? Did lenders treat entity-owned crypto any differently? I’m trying to figure out if structuring early makes things easier or if it complicates everything down the line. Any real examples would rlly help, pls. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I have 2 jobs and I hate them both, that's why i'm working on my LLC
It’s going to just be on your balance sheet as a chart of accounts but best practices of value record keeping is best determined by an accountant. The ledger entry of the transaction of transferring the funds to the LLC’s wallet is likely the same as if it was cash (ie Sales, Capital Contribution, etc).
Yahoo “ parcel-19 federal reserve Daniel Davenport Enterprises, LLC “ start there bro. Seriously.
Be sure to check this out too. Feel free to cross post I cannot. [HBAR, XRP, and ADA named as Collateral Assets to Stop Corrupt Bankers During Insolvency by Daniel Davenport Enterprises, LLC DBA WEB 3 VETS DBA MAKING AMERICA GREATER author of HBAR Pro Dollar Asset Gold Paper](https://www.reddit.com/r/XRPUnite/s/BLK3gtQ1Wm)
I went the LLC route for my crypto about two years ago. The reality is mixed. Pros: - Cleaner separation of trading activities from personal finances - Liability protection (though this depends on how you operate it) - Can expense certain things that would be harder personally - More professional when interacting with protocols/partners Cons: - Additional tax filing complexity (Form 1065 or election for S-Corp taxation) - Need to maintain proper bookkeeping and separation of funds - Annual fees in some states - Bank account setup can be challenging for crypto businesses The biggest unexpected thing for me was remembering to document transfers between personal and business wallets properly. Also, some
Only worth it if it's a Singaporean LLC and you do significant OTC trades. Otherwise not worth the maintenance cost and hustle to setup
Does Eth have patents under its LLC?
Hello bro, I told one of the dudes this. I was on the call yesterday from someone who knows a lot about this stuff. One guy caught my attention: District 14 GA Congress man. His new book is Gov-fi explained by Daniel Davenport Enterprises, LLC is a good read. I got it off Amazon — Amazing as I call it. They should have a crypto exchange incorporated in there to be honest! I digress. I am reading it to learn what my limits should be. So as always DYOR. NFA.
Hey - I don't know if you have this sorted or not, I see it was posted a while ago. If not, I'd suggest you also check out AdvantaIRA. They have a partnership with The Bitcoin Adviser and have a self-directed IRA (Roth, traditional, SEP, HSA) that allows full self-custody spot Bitcoin. Less complicated than the LLC route. [https://www.advantaira.com/blog/bitcoin-ira-insights/](https://www.advantaira.com/blog/bitcoin-ira-insights/)
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Depends how your loan is structured. On Aave you don't have to pay the interest on a specific schedule. The idea is you borrow 10-20% of the value of your collateral. To stay within a "safe" LTV. If it's a meme coin or something you don't see succeeding long term, just sell and pay taxes. If you truly believe the long term on certain projects. You can become a mini Saylor and up your exposure while trying to minimize downside. Regarding capital gains taxes being less than interest. I feel like that is more a case by case basis. If you trade under a LLC, interest payments are deductable (at least in Canada). Definitely risky!
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Post is by: crowdl and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1otfwem/recurring_bitcoin_purchase_on_kraken_pro/ Hi everyone, I'd like to setup a recurring Bitcoin purchase (ie. daily automatic purchase). I haven't found the option to do so on the Kraken Pro app. I did find it on normal Kraken app, but it charges a fee of around 1% per purchase, which I believe is too high. Is there any way to setup a recurring purchase without fees or with lower ones? Is this possible with Kraken or I should use another exchange / app? Note: It's a business account (created for a LLC), not a personal one. Thanks in advance. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
you can rent out your flat, make repairs and maintenance under LLC and get tax money back.
Post is by: 002_timmy and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1osv3w1/ccmoon_dao_update_november_9_2025_1_day_prior_to/ # Preamble Welcome to the CCMOON DAO update marking the start of Moon Week 68. This update highlights significant financial growth, key integrations, new sponsorships, and upcoming governance proposals that will shape the next phase of the DAO’s development. The DAO continues to progress toward formal legal registration through MIDAO, expanding partnerships, and strengthening DeFi use cases for Moons. In the weeks since the last update, we have seen strong revenue inflows, expanded liquidity positions, and new integrations that continue to bring real utility and value to the ecosystem. # 1. General Overview and Useful Links Moons on Arbitrum One are now being used more actively than ever before. With lending, trading, and DAO-owned liquidity positions all growing, Arbitrum One has become the center of onchain activity for Moon holders. Nearly half of all non-burned Moons are now productive in DeFi pools or DAO-managed liquidity, showing that the ecosystem is thriving with engaged users, integrations, and real usage. CCMOON DAO Constitution v0.2.1 (current version): [https://docsend.com/v/xqhb9/ccmoondaoconstitution](https://docsend.com/v/xqhb9/ccmoondaoconstitution) Website: [https://ccmoons.com/](https://ccmoons.com/) r/CryptoCurrency Advertising FAQ: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mGjm3P\_khN29cu1OjyYbS8LcCM-rTvEfAuieSHrpvlc/edit?tab=t.0](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mGjm3P_khN29cu1OjyYbS8LcCM-rTvEfAuieSHrpvlc/edit?tab=t.0) Governance: [https://snapshot.box/#/s:cryptomods.eth](https://snapshot.box/#/s:cryptomods.eth) r/CryptoCurrency Advertising Pitch Deck: [https://docsend.com/v/xqhb9/rccpitchdeck](https://docsend.com/v/xqhb9/rccpitchdeck) Transparency Report: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TZVE\_3DCbox2bfObBXvYcOZOMNw62l6bjZfGLD-g2rA/edit?gid=0#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TZVE_3DCbox2bfObBXvYcOZOMNw62l6bjZfGLD-g2rA/edit?gid=0#gid=0) Current DAO Officers: Executive Director: u/002_timmy Treasurer: u/jwinterm Secretary: u/MaeronTargaryen Marketing Officer: u/mvea Moderation Officer: u/CryptoMaximalist Technology & Infrastructure Officer: u/rickribera93 Community Engagement Officer: Vacant Ecosystem Growth Officer: Vacant # 2. Treasury Overview As of November 9, 2025, the DAO Treasury holds approximately $12,168 in non-Moon assets and 823,192 Moons. Moons decreased by 25,000, representing a transfer to the Community Currency App Bot to refill rewards for outstanding distributions. ETH remains unchanged in quantity but decreased in fiat value due to price movement. The DAO’s stablecoin holdings increased significantly as more sponsorship payments were received. Treasury Holdings: |Asset|Balance|Value (USD)| |:-|:-|:-| |Moons|823,192|$52,157| |ETH|0.83683|$2,998| |USDC|6,826|$6,826| |USDT|1,301|$1,301| |ARB|1,848|$556| |USDC.E (bridged)|487|$487| Non-Moon value: $12,168 Change since last update: +$3,417 Stablecoin value (USDC, USDT, USDC.E): $8,614 Change in stablecoins since last update: +$3,489 # 3. Burn Summary Arbitrum One: 1,038,094 Moons burned Arbitrum Nova: 3,189,800 Moons burned Total burned: 4,227,894 Moons Since the October 30 update: • Arbitrum Nova increased by 57,546 Moons (largely from Kraken’s burn event) • Arbitrum One increased by 117 Moons • Combined total increase: 57,663 Moons burned These burns highlight continued advertiser demand and the positive impact of large-scale partner events on Moon supply reduction. # 4. DAO-Owned Liquidity (DOL) The DAO now operates two Uniswap liquidity positions to improve balance and fee efficiency. First position (original pool, 0.05% fee tier): • Composition: 67,654 Moons and 960 USDC • Value: $5,455 • Total fees earned since last update: $134.37 • Breakdown: 1,081 Moons and 62.53 USDC collected • These fees will be redeployed into liquidity after collection Second position (new pool, 0.3% fee tier): • Composition: 2,379 Moons and 126.02 USDC • Value: $284.08 • Fees earned: $0.74 Combined DAO-owned liquidity value: $5,739.08 Change since last update: +$1,948 These two positions give the DAO flexibility to capture more trading volume during price swings and maintain deeper market presence without needing to sell Moons for rebalancing. # 5. Distribution Updates Polygon Labs has contributed $5,000 in POL tokens to the DAO, equivalent to 25,000 POL for distribution to subreddit users. For Moon Week 68, the DAO will distribute 6,820 Moons, reflecting cumulative revenue-based allocation since Epochs 67 and 68. The Community Currency App is now fully back online. Redundancies have been added to ensure users can always claim their rewards in the event of future outages. Since the last update on October 29, the DAO received $8,284 in new revenue from Kraken, Monad, [Rails.xyz](http://Rails.xyz), Quickswap, and ETH Strategy. Kraken’s payment was a pure burn, so the DAO will make up the equivalent amount by allocating future revenues to the Distribution, Treasury, and DAO-Owned Liquidity pools before resuming additional burns. # 6. Governance and Upcoming Proposals Two major proposals will go live this Moon Week: 1. Formalizing CCMOON DAO as a legal Marshall Islands non-profit DAO LLC through MIDAO. 2. Authorizing DAO officers to negotiate advertising partnerships with protocols, projects, or personalities that add utility and visibility to Moons. These votes mark key next steps for formal structure and operational autonomy within the DAO. # 7. Teller Integration and Moon Utility Moons are officially live on Teller, and users can now use their Moons as collateral to borrow USDC or deposit them to earn yield. Teller held an AMA on the subreddit to guide users through the process. This integration provides another major use case for Moons in DeFi. Teller’s initial incentive pool is paying a high APY for Moon deposits, funded directly by their treasury, though rewards will decrease over time as total deposits grow. # 8. Future Plans The DAO’s top priority remains completing legal registration with MIDAO as a Marshall Islands DAO LLC. This will formalize structure, provide legal protection, and enable direct contracting with partners. Other active initiatives include: • Continuing DeFi integrations like Teller and Uniswap liquidity expansion • Pursuing grants to support DEX integrations on [ccmoons.com](http://ccmoons.com) • Building faster bridge solutions between Arbitrum Nova and Arbitrum One • Hosting recurring AMAs and live DAO updates across platforms to expand beyond Reddit That concludes the CCMOON DAO update for November 9, 2025. The next update will provide results from the Moon Week 68 governance votes, updated revenue totals, and any additional partnership or liquidity developments. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
File quarterly? That's if it's a business I presume. If someone is unsure I definitely wouldn't do them myself. Unsure of the mix up because I saw sone amounts but then just a month was explained. NGL I didn't read it all. I just started buying in. Received some statement from one platform that just cancelled out or something. It wasn't reflective. I get them seeing it as property and I've always done my taxes and all... Even is I wait until September & October. I keep hearing buy, trade, holdings, and then there are sales/withdrawals. I will show a loss and that's just fine. I know it may show it as realized though it may just be traded to another coin. I just want to clarify that were being asked yo list coins in flux as property? Every changing? So if I somehow buy a new coin 12/20/20xx and make $250k before the 31st then I show that? And then in the new year it gets held and dumps into a loss one has to wait until next filing? Which is weirding me out now being that I am seeing quarterly reporting like I have to set up an account with the DOR or file taxes 4 times a year as an individual? My main questions are when are the coins taxable? From first purchase and following or from 1st withdrawal including the chain of transactions? As soon as I buy over $600 I have to start reporting that and catch the worth at midnight that quarter or the 31st, per exchange, to accurately report? And this is quarterly for John Q. Public not just John Q. Incorporated, LLC, or whatever? Do we not decide when to pull our gains or losses and then report that? Sales/Trades, etc.? Should just be yearly for an individual. And lastly if you receive a 1099 that appears to be correct, and you're not on some odd exchange that doesn't do that for you, an you not just enter your 1099 info and be done? When I jumped in I was flopping all over not recognizing "gas" so have hundreds of transactions for a relatively small amount but would be reportable. Having no finite end they want the unrealized portion and amount in flux? You probably could care less but locked on Redditor Financial Advisor so I decided to take a shot and ask a bunch of questions that seem like they could be summarized I am not seeing clarity on. If you have a spare moment 😃
You can. Self-directed IRA that owns a manager-managed LLC (“checkbook IRA LLC”).
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Have been looking into it. I think you have to have an LLC you manage be owned by the IRA in order to buy Bitcoin directly.
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In the concept of capitalism, you work hard and seek out more jobs that pay higher wages. You get more than 1 job. Who is going to stay in a $7.25 an hour job that long? You should be navigating higher paying jobs with more responsibility. You assume that person has no upward mobility at all. am I to expect you want 1 or more full bitcoin but you are unwilling to do anything to get there? Then you don’t really want 1 bitcoin and you have no ambition to grow your career. Look into starting an LLC then go on a 0% interest loan and buy bitcoin then use other business credit cards to pay off the bitcoin. Look up how to do this on Grok or chat gpt. Study what career and how to get better paying jobs by using AI. Spend hours per day when you are not at work, working on your career.
These are good, but for Bitcoin only they can be a bit overkill, expensive and complicated to manage. If you're just looking for Bitcoin - use a self-directed IRA with an IRA administrator that can do this directly, without an LLC, like AdvantaIRA. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjqVRPyF\_Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjqVRPyF_Q)
That is why it is smart to encapsulate such projects into an LLC for example, so you can keep the business accounting clean and optimal.
You can reduce this significantly. Speak to several tax advisors. Hell, 20 of them if you can. There are very legal and creative ways to reduce your tax liability here. Whether you need become a renting s-corp or LLC and lease your home to yourself from your business or creatively find some expenses you weren’t previously aware of. There are options.
Im not so sure this is correct. You can operate before becoming a legal entity. My business was operating in 2019 and I didn’t from an LLC until 2020.
well, I operate as an LLC already. (for my work) I have it all setup already for the past couple of years.
No worries. Give me a shout if you have any questions. It’s a little bit more of a setup (and cost) than a regular bitcoin ira (because of LLC setup) but it’s worth it to hold my keys I think. There are others out there now I think. When I set mine up 7 years ago BF was the only one I found
Some truly idiotic tax advice in here You can likely deduct some of your costs in obtaining this block, but you can't just set up an LLC and transfer it in there to pay the corporate tax rate like some dude said lol
Would maybe need to set up an LLC for this no? Not that it's a bad option
Look for "Checkbook Control IRA" or "Self-Directed IRA with Checkbook Control." Think many work by helping you set up a Self-Directed IRA LLC.
You can’t retroactively set up an LLC to reduce your tax burden. The LLC needed to exist when the block was earned in order to write off business expenses.
Talk to an accountant. There MUST BE A WAY to avoid paying 158k in taxes using clever and legal strategies. Probably using an LLC, or more than one
Use an LLC. Then it becomes passthrough income and you can write off your expenses. I would set one up and do a quick owner investment then spend it out of the business account. Whatever is left at the end of the year can be taken in a draw at 15% instead... This is not financial advice but its what I would do.
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Got it. I have heard of a couple of people I know (a huge statistical data set!) their contributions go directly to paying back the loan. It might also have impacted by the load duration, and resulting payment schedule they choose. They contribution equaled to or was close to there payment. Make sure to track all the funding for the LLC. It needs its own bank account and all contributions (investments) the LLC need to be tracked. You cannot pay the costs with your money. Utility bill has to be paid by the LLC. You reimburse yourself, but that will be a bit fishy to the IRS as utilities are not a normal reimbursable expense. Good luck.
I was thinking of using part of it every year or 2 to purchase miners under an LLC that I already have. This makes me price insensitive to btc bc I am mining the source. I get tax benefits and will offset the ordinary income. The 10% penalty doesn’t matter bc it’s not my money anyway. Btc is the hardest asset known to man, newest asset class since 500 years I think I’m gonna do it
All great questions. We are very pretty vanilla, we have 2 holdings on the stock side SPY and QQQ. 3 assets total including BTC. We were all very much inspired by the FIRE movement so keeping investment simple made sense for us. We buy x amount every month. Plan is to not sell any BTC at all ever (willing to transact in sats if needed). Its also under a LLC so we each report it. Decision to sell, how we would sell, etc all written in an operating agreement we have. For example, we all have to agree to sell an asset if we head that direction.
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If you owned all the shares of the LLC they would still count towards your net worth.
But aren’t they basically the “government”? Like if I put all of my assets under a LLC and had it pay me.
It's already not easy to invest, but the worst thing is the governments which are incapable of offering interesting investments and which do not want the capital to leave the country... So here is my advice for all the people who feel this injustice.. You must create an LLC (American company) then you invest via your company which will be a US entity therefore access to ETFs linked to BTC as well as the entire US market. The process is a little long (even a little perilous) but freedom is priceless
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They want to fix their debts by destroying the middle class. It's insane as well in NL if you work two jobs, the second job you get double taxed. Essentially if you work harder and more, the government will take even more money from you. Obviously there are loopholes by having an LLC and the actual rich people will find a way to hide their assets, i.e. opening a foreign bank account
Register and LLC for and Open up a business acc. Big checks will clear faster
Don't sell, just swap it for a stable coin and transfer it to the wallet of your choice that uses an ATM or credit card to spend your money, or you can sell stable coin slowly then transfer in small increments back to your bank account,another choice would be to leave your stable coin on the exchange earning 4+% interest and just spend the interest that is earned on your principle, which is taxable btw, you can also start an LLC in a zero tax state such as Wisconsin or Texas and even Nevada ,put yourself as the beneficiary, sell BTC through LLC and wallah no capital gain taxes at all..
In speculation, I would put a solid 40% of that 160k in a cold wallet, purchased on a limit order Mind u, if u are North of the UsA. One bitcoin is about 161K dollars. So I would suggest to just buy a single bitcoin . And lock that away until it turns into 1.25 bitcoin. Sell that 20k and hold that as cash. Now you’re down (ideally) to 1 005 000. So doing great. Let’s say it goes down a bit after that sell off into fiat. Let’s say that’s six months down the road. Hold fast, and if u can buy more. Shoot by a solid 15K or even 15-50K if we are talking the bitcoin price is below 120K/btcn. I mean buy real estate that you can passively earn income on by having a do it all handyman live freely in a 4 bedroom House, even if you’re just breaking even off owning that house . (Which would be on the low low side depending on location and quality of house of course.) usually u can be making just 2-3750$ a month. Which honestly is nothing to scoff at. That can cover your entire living expenses every month. Just for using your little and early BTC profits for passive income, 2750$ a month is not bad at ALL for just getting into real estate and having to do relatively little. I mean that is if you hire a solid property manager. And good tenants that work steady and are happy with paying their monthly rent. Anyways this is a great way to get into diversification in both economic income and financial investments. Bitcoin is not going anywhere. If you are one of the lucky and smart / patient ones who have a solid bitcoin . You are going to do great financially in life if you play your cards right. There are so many options. But don’t u dare sell a whole bitcoin until it’s reaching almost a million. That 21 million will come up fast in the final five years. Conservatively, I predict the 21 million bitcoins will be totally out and circulating/ sold/ traded/ purchased in personal and LLC hands by 2033! Easy!!
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Even if an LLC issues tokenized shares on something they own, they are backed by nothing. There's really no good reason to involve blockchain, especially when it comes to important natural resources, you don't want any ambiguity over who owns what.
From what I read, you have to form an SVP (LLC, trust). It actually owns the property but you can sell shares. The issue again being people would be investing in something with no return. Just preserving the land. Unless we can somehow lease the land for something 🤔
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Like if you put the (parts of a multi-part) keys in a safety deposit box that belongs to the LLC